1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,799 Welcome back to Podcast Insider. I'm Mike Dell, 2 00:00:02,799 --> 00:00:05,540 the VP of customer relations here at Blueberry. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,359 And I'm Dave Clements, Blueberry support and media 4 00:00:09,359 --> 00:00:09,859 specialist. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Yeah. This time of the year, everybody's thinking 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,045 about spring and spring cleaning. Although we just 7 00:00:16,045 --> 00:00:18,364 had a blizzard here, so I'm thinking about 8 00:00:18,364 --> 00:00:20,765 all this damn snow needs to melt. But 9 00:00:20,765 --> 00:00:23,324 it's also a great time to clear things 10 00:00:23,324 --> 00:00:25,744 out and get your podcast organized. 11 00:00:26,510 --> 00:00:28,589 Yeah. I just spring cleaned and redid my 12 00:00:28,589 --> 00:00:31,710 entire office, but your podcast probably needs the 13 00:00:31,710 --> 00:00:34,130 same thing probably more often than you think. 14 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:37,229 Exactly. So today, we're gonna be talking about 15 00:00:37,229 --> 00:00:39,950 how to spring clean your podcast and what 16 00:00:39,950 --> 00:00:40,689 to fix, 17 00:00:41,024 --> 00:00:43,505 what to update, what you might want to 18 00:00:43,505 --> 00:00:44,645 remove altogether. 19 00:00:45,744 --> 00:00:47,984 And some of these are quick wins, and 20 00:00:47,984 --> 00:00:49,664 some of them are going to take a 21 00:00:49,664 --> 00:00:51,905 little bit more time, but all of them 22 00:00:51,905 --> 00:00:54,145 are gonna help your podcast perform better as 23 00:00:54,145 --> 00:00:54,390 you 24 00:00:56,149 --> 00:00:59,109 go. You're listening to Podcast Insider hosted by 25 00:00:59,109 --> 00:01:01,750 Mike Dell, Dave Clements, and Mackenzie Bennett from 26 00:01:01,750 --> 00:01:05,049 the Blueberry team, bringing you weekly insights, advice, 27 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:07,269 and insider tips and tricks to help you 28 00:01:07,269 --> 00:01:10,854 start, grow, and thrive through podcasting with all 29 00:01:10,854 --> 00:01:13,174 the support of your team here at Blueberry 30 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:13,674 Podcasting. 31 00:01:14,454 --> 00:01:14,954 Welcome. 32 00:01:15,334 --> 00:01:16,394 Let's dive in. 33 00:01:17,174 --> 00:01:19,594 So why does spring cleaning matter? 34 00:01:20,774 --> 00:01:21,674 A lot of podcasts 35 00:01:22,299 --> 00:01:25,579 don't fail because of one big thing. It's 36 00:01:25,579 --> 00:01:28,219 usually a bunch of small things stacking up 37 00:01:28,219 --> 00:01:28,879 over time. 38 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:31,500 So, you know, you have broken links on 39 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:33,680 your website, descriptions get outdated. 40 00:01:34,379 --> 00:01:36,060 You know, your workflow might get a little 41 00:01:36,060 --> 00:01:36,560 messy. 42 00:01:36,954 --> 00:01:39,034 One thing that I run into a lot 43 00:01:39,034 --> 00:01:39,534 is 44 00:01:40,075 --> 00:01:42,734 it starts to feel stale, and you typically 45 00:01:42,795 --> 00:01:45,854 don't realize why. And that these things 46 00:01:46,155 --> 00:01:48,234 are kinda sitting in the background. So some 47 00:01:48,234 --> 00:01:49,774 of the things that 48 00:01:50,155 --> 00:01:50,655 cleaning 49 00:01:51,260 --> 00:01:52,640 your podcast up improves 50 00:01:53,019 --> 00:01:54,959 would be things like listener experience, 51 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:55,760 discoverability, 52 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,359 and then you can get ready for monetization. 53 00:01:59,659 --> 00:02:02,319 And we've talked a lot about monetization lately. 54 00:02:03,334 --> 00:02:05,414 Yeah. And a lot of podcasters don't really 55 00:02:05,414 --> 00:02:07,414 care if they monetize or not. It's a 56 00:02:07,414 --> 00:02:08,715 hobby. So, you know, 57 00:02:09,175 --> 00:02:11,594 whatever you're into, that's just fine. 58 00:02:12,455 --> 00:02:13,834 But, you know, some of the 59 00:02:14,215 --> 00:02:16,955 stuff that really help you stay motivated 60 00:02:17,414 --> 00:02:17,914 and 61 00:02:18,310 --> 00:02:21,349 give a better listener experience is, you know, 62 00:02:21,349 --> 00:02:23,849 make sure your show description is still accurate, 63 00:02:24,069 --> 00:02:26,629 and you make sure your episode titles, you 64 00:02:26,629 --> 00:02:28,729 know, don't change past ones. But 65 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:31,189 the way you're doing episode titles, are they 66 00:02:31,189 --> 00:02:32,729 clear, keyword friendly? 67 00:02:33,155 --> 00:02:36,275 Do they still reflect what your show is 68 00:02:36,275 --> 00:02:38,694 all about? Yeah. One thing that I did 69 00:02:39,155 --> 00:02:41,474 fairly recently with one of my shows was 70 00:02:41,474 --> 00:02:43,495 I was putting episode numbers at the beginning, 71 00:02:43,634 --> 00:02:45,074 and I realized I don't need to do 72 00:02:45,074 --> 00:02:46,914 that because most people don't care what episode 73 00:02:46,914 --> 00:02:48,509 it is because it wasn't a serial 74 00:02:49,310 --> 00:02:51,389 show. So even something simple like that, you 75 00:02:51,389 --> 00:02:53,169 can go through, remove those numbers, 76 00:02:53,469 --> 00:02:55,549 and just clean things up a little bit. 77 00:02:55,549 --> 00:02:57,789 That's always nice. And, you know, it may 78 00:02:58,030 --> 00:03:00,349 depending on how you rewrite those titles or 79 00:03:00,349 --> 00:03:02,669 descriptions, it might catch the attention of someone 80 00:03:02,669 --> 00:03:05,034 new. Yeah. And, you know, the other thing 81 00:03:05,034 --> 00:03:07,215 about putting episode numbers at the beginning 82 00:03:07,835 --> 00:03:10,314 is a lot of apps cut off your 83 00:03:10,314 --> 00:03:11,455 episode titles. 84 00:03:11,754 --> 00:03:13,594 Mhmm. You know, they only show the first 85 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:15,594 so many characters, and I don't have an 86 00:03:15,594 --> 00:03:17,754 exact number or anything and what apps do 87 00:03:17,754 --> 00:03:18,495 which. But 88 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,360 if you put unimportant stuff at the beginning 89 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,840 of the title, such as your episode number, 90 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,400 that's really only important to you in most 91 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,620 cases these days. 92 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,639 You know? Unless, like Dave said, if you 93 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,939 are doing a serialized 94 00:03:33,425 --> 00:03:35,525 show that, you know, the the the episodes 95 00:03:35,584 --> 00:03:37,604 go in a certain order and it's kinda 96 00:03:37,985 --> 00:03:39,584 good for people to know, you know, okay. 97 00:03:39,584 --> 00:03:41,745 This is episode one. This is episode two. 98 00:03:41,745 --> 00:03:42,245 Whatever. 99 00:03:42,544 --> 00:03:43,604 That's not important 100 00:03:43,905 --> 00:03:44,724 to your podcast. 101 00:03:45,104 --> 00:03:47,319 Take them out all altogether or put them 102 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:49,340 at the end of the title. I recently 103 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,580 did that with my main show. 104 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:53,319 I went through and took out all the 105 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:54,860 episode numbers in the titles. 106 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:57,000 Mhmm. Because a lot of the apps now 107 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,159 will use the episode number you put in 108 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:01,480 the settings. And at Blueberry, we have in 109 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,939 both PowerPress and 110 00:04:03,375 --> 00:04:04,754 Publisher feeds, you can 111 00:04:05,134 --> 00:04:07,055 number your episode. You don't need to put 112 00:04:07,055 --> 00:04:08,354 them in your titles anymore, 113 00:04:08,735 --> 00:04:09,954 and they'll sort them 114 00:04:10,254 --> 00:04:11,715 automatically most times. 115 00:04:12,014 --> 00:04:14,574 Yeah. You know, and all my episode file 116 00:04:14,574 --> 00:04:17,154 names, which most people don't see, 117 00:04:17,790 --> 00:04:20,669 But my episode file names have the episode 118 00:04:20,669 --> 00:04:22,589 number in them, and that's mainly so I 119 00:04:22,589 --> 00:04:25,870 don't duplicate an episode file name. Exactly. You 120 00:04:25,870 --> 00:04:27,550 know, that's the main reason for that. It 121 00:04:27,550 --> 00:04:30,509 kinda serializes it. So that and it also 122 00:04:30,509 --> 00:04:31,410 keeps me, 123 00:04:31,735 --> 00:04:33,495 like, you know, I look at my files. 124 00:04:33,495 --> 00:04:35,335 I say, okay. The last the newest one 125 00:04:35,335 --> 00:04:37,975 here is, you know, 467. 126 00:04:37,975 --> 00:04:39,574 Okay. The next one I record should be 127 00:04:39,574 --> 00:04:40,715 468. 128 00:04:40,775 --> 00:04:42,375 Easy. Right. You know, I don't have to 129 00:04:42,375 --> 00:04:44,055 worry about, oh, what am I gonna call 130 00:04:44,055 --> 00:04:46,314 this? No. Have I used that name before? 131 00:04:46,949 --> 00:04:49,110 But that's not something you do spring cleaning. 132 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:50,889 That's what you do all along. 133 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:53,269 You know, either date it. You know, like, 134 00:04:53,269 --> 00:04:54,970 with this show, we put the date 135 00:04:55,669 --> 00:04:58,229 in the title or in the file name, 136 00:04:58,229 --> 00:05:00,009 not the title, the file name. 137 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:01,689 But, you know, just, 138 00:05:02,375 --> 00:05:04,694 you know, kinda rethink how you wanna keep 139 00:05:04,694 --> 00:05:06,855 organized. You know? The more, the merrier that 140 00:05:06,855 --> 00:05:10,215 way. Some of your links and calls to 141 00:05:10,215 --> 00:05:12,615 action, you know, I've no. You know, years 142 00:05:12,615 --> 00:05:13,514 ago, I was 143 00:05:14,375 --> 00:05:14,875 advertising 144 00:05:15,254 --> 00:05:15,754 Citrix, 145 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:17,639 which Citrix, 146 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:19,560 I think, is out of business. 147 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:22,420 Some of their products still exist, but those 148 00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:24,020 links that I had in my show notes 149 00:05:24,020 --> 00:05:25,400 are probably really old. 150 00:05:25,779 --> 00:05:28,100 Yeah. So, you know, if you're using a 151 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,915 WordPress site, for instance, go through and search 152 00:05:31,235 --> 00:05:33,795 for dead links. There's a plugin you can 153 00:05:33,795 --> 00:05:36,595 install called dead dead link checker or something 154 00:05:36,595 --> 00:05:37,254 like that 155 00:05:37,714 --> 00:05:39,654 or broken link checker, I think. 156 00:05:39,955 --> 00:05:42,355 And go through there and either update those 157 00:05:42,355 --> 00:05:43,574 with, you know, current 158 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,600 links to whatever it was you were linking 159 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,439 to, or if that doesn't exist anymore, take 160 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:49,420 the links out. 161 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,100 You know, you could still leave 162 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,600 the episode in the description and talking about 163 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,199 that product, you know, because you don't want 164 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:57,420 our episodes either. 165 00:05:58,084 --> 00:05:59,925 But, you know, just take that link out 166 00:05:59,925 --> 00:06:01,524 of the show notes. You know, it's a 167 00:06:01,524 --> 00:06:03,605 bad look when you even, you know, someone's 168 00:06:03,605 --> 00:06:05,365 going to a five year old episode and 169 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,064 they click a link and the link's dead. 170 00:06:07,605 --> 00:06:10,725 Yeah. Well, especially, like, you know, you know 171 00:06:10,725 --> 00:06:12,324 this, Mike, because we've been doing this long 172 00:06:12,324 --> 00:06:13,305 enough. But, like, 173 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,779 we I would say a lot of podcasters 174 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,139 got involved in affiliate 175 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,420 marketing 176 00:06:18,959 --> 00:06:21,519 and sales and things like that through their 177 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:22,019 podcast. 178 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:23,300 And so 179 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,040 I know that there have been times I've 180 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,345 had to go through and go, oh, that 181 00:06:27,584 --> 00:06:30,464 promo code or that offer that I had 182 00:06:30,464 --> 00:06:32,324 for three weeks back in 183 00:06:32,704 --> 00:06:33,524 2017, 184 00:06:33,824 --> 00:06:36,485 that doesn't work anymore. I should remove that. 185 00:06:36,785 --> 00:06:40,050 Because, again, like, you you're just gonna lead 186 00:06:40,050 --> 00:06:42,149 people astray, and then you get that email 187 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:45,009 or whatever that's like, hey, you I can't 188 00:06:45,009 --> 00:06:46,210 get 35% 189 00:06:46,210 --> 00:06:49,089 off of that really cool product that you 190 00:06:49,089 --> 00:06:50,629 were talking about in this episode, 191 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:52,949 and you don't really want that. 192 00:06:53,535 --> 00:06:54,035 Right. 193 00:06:54,654 --> 00:06:55,535 Right. Yeah. It's 194 00:06:56,415 --> 00:06:59,055 you gotta kinda maintain stuff is, I guess, 195 00:06:59,055 --> 00:07:01,535 the takeaway for that. You know? And same 196 00:07:01,535 --> 00:07:03,555 thing with part podcast artwork. 197 00:07:03,935 --> 00:07:06,095 Mhmm. You know? I know your listeners probably 198 00:07:06,095 --> 00:07:08,519 aren't tired of looking at your artwork because 199 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:09,959 they don't look at it very long. They 200 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:11,100 say, oh, new episode. 201 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,300 Hit play. 202 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,579 Yep. But 203 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,199 you, as the podcaster, look at that thing 204 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:17,019 all the time. 205 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:20,439 And, you know, just for you, maybe update 206 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:22,745 that artwork a little bit. You know, make 207 00:07:22,745 --> 00:07:25,745 sure it still matches your brand or your, 208 00:07:25,745 --> 00:07:27,845 you know, your subject matter or whatever, 209 00:07:28,225 --> 00:07:30,944 or just looks cool. Whatever. You know? It's 210 00:07:30,944 --> 00:07:31,444 totally 211 00:07:31,824 --> 00:07:32,324 not, 212 00:07:33,504 --> 00:07:35,584 you know, something you know, people get used 213 00:07:35,584 --> 00:07:37,045 to whatever you put there. 214 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:37,660 But 215 00:07:39,259 --> 00:07:41,420 Yeah. Some something that you really have to 216 00:07:41,420 --> 00:07:44,060 consider is depending on how long you've had 217 00:07:44,060 --> 00:07:45,759 your artwork and your show, 218 00:07:46,220 --> 00:07:48,080 you know, we're looking at high definition 219 00:07:48,699 --> 00:07:51,875 screens now. Like your phone, your monitors, your 220 00:07:51,875 --> 00:07:53,574 TVs. They're all high definition 221 00:07:54,115 --> 00:07:54,935 four k, 222 00:07:55,394 --> 00:07:55,894 generally. 223 00:07:56,514 --> 00:07:57,014 And 224 00:07:57,634 --> 00:07:58,694 those images 225 00:07:59,714 --> 00:08:02,055 are gonna look different now than they did 226 00:08:02,274 --> 00:08:04,439 years ago when you started doing your podcast. 227 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,939 So for me, it's been almost fifteen years. 228 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,899 I would not use my old artwork because 229 00:08:09,959 --> 00:08:11,819 it was pretty pixely intentionally, 230 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:15,160 but it just the resolution wasn't there. The 231 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,699 quality wasn't there. So always, like, stop and 232 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:20,060 look at that image, 233 00:08:20,935 --> 00:08:22,615 you know, in a monitor. If you can 234 00:08:22,615 --> 00:08:25,115 put it on your TV, whether it's 235 00:08:25,574 --> 00:08:28,395 through, like, an Apple TV or, 236 00:08:28,935 --> 00:08:31,175 you know Google. Screen share or something like 237 00:08:31,175 --> 00:08:31,675 that. 238 00:08:32,215 --> 00:08:33,835 Look at it in different sizes, 239 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:35,829 and then shrink it down to as small 240 00:08:35,829 --> 00:08:37,589 as you can and go, is it still 241 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:39,769 legible? Do people know that's still 242 00:08:40,070 --> 00:08:40,889 my show? 243 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:43,829 And then sometimes, like, you just need a 244 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:45,029 refresh. Like, I've 245 00:08:45,669 --> 00:08:47,049 I created artwork 246 00:08:47,589 --> 00:08:48,089 for 247 00:08:48,629 --> 00:08:49,370 a podcast 248 00:08:50,045 --> 00:08:52,285 that was about video games and had a 249 00:08:52,285 --> 00:08:53,425 video game vibe. 250 00:08:53,884 --> 00:08:55,485 And I just changed it up because it 251 00:08:55,485 --> 00:08:57,345 was like, well, this is like eight bit, 252 00:08:57,485 --> 00:09:00,125 you know, pixely looking thing. Now we're gonna 253 00:09:00,125 --> 00:09:01,644 do something that's a little bit more sleek, 254 00:09:01,644 --> 00:09:03,805 a little bit more modern just because that's 255 00:09:03,805 --> 00:09:06,389 what we're talking about more. Right. But don't 256 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:09,129 go overboard with this high resolution thing. 257 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:10,970 No. You know, like, 258 00:09:11,350 --> 00:09:13,370 there's still technical specs 259 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:15,690 that you need to have for your podcast 260 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:16,250 artwork. 261 00:09:16,629 --> 00:09:17,929 Yep. And 262 00:09:18,554 --> 00:09:21,034 I always recommend and this is just me, 263 00:09:21,034 --> 00:09:22,794 so take it for what it's worth and 264 00:09:22,794 --> 00:09:24,014 what you paid for it. 265 00:09:24,475 --> 00:09:27,054 But I say go 1,400 266 00:09:27,115 --> 00:09:28,475 pixel square. I 267 00:09:29,434 --> 00:09:31,754 there there's no instance that I can think 268 00:09:31,754 --> 00:09:34,399 of where you need 3,000 pixel square. 269 00:09:34,860 --> 00:09:35,519 You can. 270 00:09:36,139 --> 00:09:38,059 But the problem with that is then the 271 00:09:38,059 --> 00:09:40,080 file size starts getting in the way. 272 00:09:40,460 --> 00:09:42,800 And, you know, 3,000 pixel image 273 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,180 is enough. If you wanted to blow it 274 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:47,100 up to be a billboard, it would probably 275 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:47,920 look okay. 276 00:09:48,644 --> 00:09:50,965 And, you know, most people are looking at 277 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:54,024 it maybe two inches on their screen. Mhmm. 278 00:09:54,485 --> 00:09:56,325 You know? Or if they're on Apple TV, 279 00:09:56,325 --> 00:09:58,904 it might be 10 inches or whatever. 280 00:09:59,285 --> 00:10:01,225 But that's gonna look just fine. 281 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:03,639 But as Dave said, look at it on 282 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:06,440 different size screens, of course, and also shrink 283 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,200 it down because, you know, you put a 284 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,460 bunch of text in your episode artwork, 285 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,320 maybe that text is gonna be way too 286 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,039 small for anybody to read. One inch or 287 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:17,534 two inch sized display on the phone. 288 00:10:18,894 --> 00:10:20,815 Yeah. And you definitely don't need a 40 289 00:10:20,815 --> 00:10:23,294 foot by 40 foot image, unless you wanna, 290 00:10:23,294 --> 00:10:24,975 like, put the banner in your yard or 291 00:10:24,975 --> 00:10:27,375 something like that. You know, we have one 292 00:10:27,375 --> 00:10:28,834 of those programmable 293 00:10:29,294 --> 00:10:31,214 billboards down the street, you know, where they 294 00:10:31,375 --> 00:10:34,210 it switches every so often. I always often 295 00:10:34,210 --> 00:10:36,370 thought maybe I'll throw my podcast up on 296 00:10:36,370 --> 00:10:38,610 that billboard. Well, okay. Maybe I'd give them 297 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:41,009 a 3,000 image for that, but I would 298 00:10:41,170 --> 00:10:43,110 Right. One off for them. 299 00:10:43,490 --> 00:10:43,990 Sure. 300 00:10:44,794 --> 00:10:46,794 But, you know, hey. I always tell people, 301 00:10:46,794 --> 00:10:48,315 you don't need to make a billboard out 302 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:51,034 of your podcast artwork. Well, maybe Mhmm. Wonder 303 00:10:51,034 --> 00:10:51,934 what that costs. 304 00:10:54,235 --> 00:10:54,735 Anyway, 305 00:10:55,115 --> 00:10:56,714 then we already talked about some of this, 306 00:10:56,714 --> 00:10:58,554 you know, with cleaning up your back catalog 307 00:10:58,554 --> 00:11:01,899 with the broken links and outdated stuff. But 308 00:11:01,899 --> 00:11:04,139 I don't ever think that you really need 309 00:11:04,139 --> 00:11:06,779 to go rerecord an old that episode unless 310 00:11:06,779 --> 00:11:07,919 you make it a new one. 311 00:11:08,379 --> 00:11:10,860 You could do another episode about that same 312 00:11:10,860 --> 00:11:11,360 topic. 313 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:13,980 Mhmm. Make that a new episode. Leave the 314 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:16,554 old one there. That's me. Another thing that 315 00:11:16,554 --> 00:11:18,955 you might consider, and I've done this some, 316 00:11:18,955 --> 00:11:21,835 is, you know, promoting older episodes. Maybe, you 317 00:11:21,835 --> 00:11:23,754 know, find one that you really liked in 318 00:11:23,754 --> 00:11:26,735 your back catalog and promote that on social 319 00:11:27,799 --> 00:11:29,639 or in your other show. Hey. Go back 320 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:32,440 to this episode and check this out, you 321 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,079 know, something like that. Yeah. Another thing you 322 00:11:35,079 --> 00:11:37,720 could do is, you know, kinda thinking about 323 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:39,825 I have monetization on the mind right now 324 00:11:39,825 --> 00:11:41,504 because that is very much what we're focusing 325 00:11:41,504 --> 00:11:43,504 on here at Blueberry as far as marketing 326 00:11:43,504 --> 00:11:46,065 goes. You know, if you've used baked in 327 00:11:46,065 --> 00:11:46,565 ads 328 00:11:46,945 --> 00:11:49,345 within your episodes, it might be a good 329 00:11:49,345 --> 00:11:52,465 idea to go back and cut those out 330 00:11:52,465 --> 00:11:53,445 and just reupload 331 00:11:54,450 --> 00:11:56,470 that episode without those ads 332 00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:59,170 or, you know, something like that. That's just 333 00:11:59,170 --> 00:12:02,389 something to think about, not a necessary thing. 334 00:12:02,610 --> 00:12:04,929 But it kinda goes back into you don't 335 00:12:04,929 --> 00:12:07,570 wanna lead people astray thinking that you have 336 00:12:07,570 --> 00:12:08,230 an offer 337 00:12:08,565 --> 00:12:09,784 that you don't have anymore. 338 00:12:10,164 --> 00:12:12,565 I wouldn't lose too much sleep over going 339 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:14,804 back, but especially if you're gonna promote an 340 00:12:14,804 --> 00:12:17,125 older episode, listen to it. Maybe edit a 341 00:12:17,125 --> 00:12:18,024 little bit more. 342 00:12:18,725 --> 00:12:19,225 Yeah. 343 00:12:19,605 --> 00:12:20,664 Get rid of outdated 344 00:12:20,965 --> 00:12:23,445 calls to action, whatnot. But, again, you know, 345 00:12:23,445 --> 00:12:25,649 I wouldn't you know, I've got, you know, 346 00:12:25,649 --> 00:12:28,370 nearly 500 episodes on my show. We've got 347 00:12:28,370 --> 00:12:30,710 nearly Sure. Episodes on this show. 348 00:12:31,090 --> 00:12:33,110 We're not going back and changing anything. 349 00:12:33,889 --> 00:12:36,210 Yeah. Probably not. But, you know, like, there 350 00:12:36,210 --> 00:12:38,134 there are some that are egregious, you know, 351 00:12:38,134 --> 00:12:40,615 like Yeah. People change or, you know, businesses 352 00:12:40,615 --> 00:12:43,254 just don't exist anymore. And, you know, maybe 353 00:12:43,254 --> 00:12:45,115 it just doesn't align with your show anymore. 354 00:12:45,174 --> 00:12:46,634 It's just something to think about. 355 00:12:47,014 --> 00:12:49,014 Yep. And, you know, another thing, this really 356 00:12:49,014 --> 00:12:50,774 doesn't have anything to do with spring cleaning. 357 00:12:50,774 --> 00:12:52,054 But if you wanted to take a week 358 00:12:52,054 --> 00:12:53,789 off for you from your show like we 359 00:12:53,789 --> 00:12:56,350 did last week, run a rerun. We did 360 00:12:56,350 --> 00:12:59,070 that last week. Mhmm. Information was still good 361 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:00,829 and and all that. So that's another thing. 362 00:13:00,829 --> 00:13:02,449 But put it out as a new episode. 363 00:13:02,509 --> 00:13:05,070 Change the file name. You know? And you 364 00:13:05,070 --> 00:13:06,990 could put the same episode out. Maybe put 365 00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:09,309 an edited intro at the beginning, something like 366 00:13:09,309 --> 00:13:11,184 that. But that's not so 367 00:13:11,644 --> 00:13:12,625 we'll we'll move 368 00:13:14,445 --> 00:13:16,845 on. But, you know, your workflow, you know, 369 00:13:16,845 --> 00:13:17,585 how you 370 00:13:18,764 --> 00:13:19,264 publish, 371 00:13:20,205 --> 00:13:21,884 you know, maybe that needs a little bit 372 00:13:21,884 --> 00:13:24,820 of tweaking. You know? Like, with us, sometimes 373 00:13:24,820 --> 00:13:27,320 we are scrambling to put out an episode. 374 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:29,940 Mhmm. Do we need to rethink how we're 375 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:31,240 doing this? Maybe. 376 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:32,440 You know? Just 377 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:35,715 some workflow issues. There's all kinds of of 378 00:13:35,955 --> 00:13:37,795 ways of doing it and in what order 379 00:13:37,795 --> 00:13:39,715 and all that. I'm constantly doing that with 380 00:13:39,715 --> 00:13:42,195 my daily show. I was just telling Dave 381 00:13:42,195 --> 00:13:45,075 before we started recording, I've been playing with 382 00:13:45,075 --> 00:13:47,315 AI a little bit, trying to make the 383 00:13:47,315 --> 00:13:49,634 show prep a little quicker, and, yeah, so 384 00:13:49,634 --> 00:13:51,175 far limited success. 385 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,279 Yeah. I think you just kind of have 386 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:54,779 to 387 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,159 step back and look at what is the 388 00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:59,559 entire process from start to finish for an 389 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,059 episode. 390 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:03,240 And not so much cut corners, but where 391 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,159 can you trim the fat? Where can you 392 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:07,524 make things work for you instead of against 393 00:14:07,524 --> 00:14:09,284 you? That was always a big thing that 394 00:14:09,284 --> 00:14:10,184 I ran into 395 00:14:10,965 --> 00:14:11,465 with, 396 00:14:12,004 --> 00:14:13,945 you know, doing a show by myself 397 00:14:14,725 --> 00:14:15,225 was 398 00:14:16,644 --> 00:14:18,485 I had to move the obstacles out of 399 00:14:18,485 --> 00:14:20,245 the way for me to actually sit down 400 00:14:20,245 --> 00:14:21,065 and record 401 00:14:21,524 --> 00:14:22,264 the episode. 402 00:14:23,009 --> 00:14:24,550 So yeah. Like, 403 00:14:25,090 --> 00:14:27,170 you just gotta analyze. There's not really a 404 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:30,129 one size fits all approach. So just step 405 00:14:30,129 --> 00:14:32,129 back and go, what is the thing that 406 00:14:32,129 --> 00:14:33,490 gets in my way the most? And then 407 00:14:33,490 --> 00:14:35,090 start to work on that. And maybe that 408 00:14:35,090 --> 00:14:37,904 is I gotta think of, you know, five 409 00:14:37,904 --> 00:14:38,404 episodes 410 00:14:39,664 --> 00:14:41,904 and then work on an outline one at 411 00:14:41,904 --> 00:14:44,464 a time before I can record or something 412 00:14:44,464 --> 00:14:46,144 like that. You know, you're gonna be the 413 00:14:46,144 --> 00:14:48,144 person that knows what hurts the most when 414 00:14:48,144 --> 00:14:49,365 you get by in the microphone. 415 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:51,539 Yeah. For sure. 416 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:53,919 You know, like with me, you know, sometimes 417 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:55,139 I'll do show prep, 418 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:56,659 then I'll 419 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,819 record, then I'll do the art episode artwork, 420 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:03,945 and then I'll publish, You know? Mhmm. In 421 00:15:03,945 --> 00:15:05,985 that order. And then sometimes what I'll do 422 00:15:05,985 --> 00:15:07,664 is I'll start with the artwork. 423 00:15:08,205 --> 00:15:09,725 I won't even do show prep. I just 424 00:15:09,725 --> 00:15:11,164 know what it's gonna be about, so I'll 425 00:15:11,164 --> 00:15:12,764 play around and get the artwork the way 426 00:15:12,764 --> 00:15:15,264 I want it. Then I'll go back and, 427 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:17,299 you know, do prep and then 428 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:18,259 record 429 00:15:18,639 --> 00:15:19,860 and edit and whatever. 430 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:21,940 Edit. Yeah. Right? 431 00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:24,179 But, 432 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,799 you know, how that goes, it just 433 00:15:28,134 --> 00:15:29,975 you know, I you change it up once 434 00:15:29,975 --> 00:15:31,815 in a while. You know? Yeah. And don't 435 00:15:31,815 --> 00:15:33,514 be afraid to throw in a checklist, 436 00:15:33,815 --> 00:15:36,774 you know, and tear that checklist up, restart 437 00:15:36,774 --> 00:15:39,254 it. Do that as many times as it 438 00:15:39,254 --> 00:15:40,714 takes to get comfortable 439 00:15:41,654 --> 00:15:43,889 doing it. Like I said, over and over 440 00:15:43,889 --> 00:15:45,429 again, remove the obstacles 441 00:15:45,889 --> 00:15:48,050 because that is what is gonna slow you 442 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:50,290 down, and that's what leads to pod fade 443 00:15:50,290 --> 00:15:52,529 and burnout and things like that, which we 444 00:15:52,529 --> 00:15:53,350 talk about, 445 00:15:53,730 --> 00:15:57,509 but I think everybody's afraid to change anything 446 00:15:58,345 --> 00:15:59,404 even if it hurts. 447 00:16:00,264 --> 00:16:02,664 Right. Yeah. And, you know, the thing is 448 00:16:02,664 --> 00:16:05,384 if you're doing a podcast, let's say you're 449 00:16:05,384 --> 00:16:07,884 doing a weekly or, you know, whatever 450 00:16:08,424 --> 00:16:08,924 whatever 451 00:16:09,705 --> 00:16:10,924 cadence you do, 452 00:16:11,750 --> 00:16:14,169 you have a way of doing it, and 453 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:16,549 maybe that's getting a bit old. You know, 454 00:16:16,549 --> 00:16:18,389 change it up maybe just just for the 455 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:20,309 heck of it. Maybe add a segment to 456 00:16:20,309 --> 00:16:22,389 your show that you didn't do before. I 457 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:24,309 meant that you're doing that's like, oh, I 458 00:16:24,309 --> 00:16:25,610 gotta do that again. 459 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:27,514 Yeah. So, 460 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:30,215 you know, just clean it up. Spring cleaning. 461 00:16:30,215 --> 00:16:30,715 Mhmm. 462 00:16:31,335 --> 00:16:32,554 Talk about monetization 463 00:16:33,014 --> 00:16:35,495 since you guys have been in marketing, been 464 00:16:35,495 --> 00:16:36,795 talking about that a lot. 465 00:16:37,174 --> 00:16:37,674 Yeah. 466 00:16:38,535 --> 00:16:40,455 Yeah. And we I guess I kinda touched 467 00:16:40,455 --> 00:16:42,230 on these. I jumped ahead in our show 468 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:42,970 notes unintentionally. 469 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:44,409 But, yeah, like, 470 00:16:45,029 --> 00:16:47,669 check. Are you still promoting old sponsors? Do 471 00:16:47,669 --> 00:16:50,330 you have dead affiliate links on your site 472 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:52,090 or in your show notes? 473 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:54,789 Is there something that you're not promoting that 474 00:16:54,789 --> 00:16:56,654 you should be? Maybe since you've started your 475 00:16:56,654 --> 00:16:58,355 podcast, you've started to 476 00:16:58,735 --> 00:17:01,695 offer a service or a newsletter or, you 477 00:17:01,695 --> 00:17:03,934 know, you've started a Patreon or something like 478 00:17:03,934 --> 00:17:05,934 that, and you haven't thought to put it 479 00:17:05,934 --> 00:17:07,775 in your show notes or really talk about 480 00:17:07,775 --> 00:17:11,220 it. Definitely do that. Yeah. Also, you know, 481 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:13,460 intros, that's that is one thing I would 482 00:17:13,460 --> 00:17:14,599 go back and edit 483 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:17,619 depending not very far. You know? I whenever 484 00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:19,460 I say I I would go back to 485 00:17:19,460 --> 00:17:20,359 edit something, 486 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:23,700 it's usually last 20 episodes. I'm not going 487 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:25,320 500 episodes back. 488 00:17:25,954 --> 00:17:27,815 Right. Right. You know? But maybe 489 00:17:28,275 --> 00:17:30,914 if, you know, my intros were garbage, I 490 00:17:30,914 --> 00:17:33,875 might rerecord an intro or, you know, have 491 00:17:33,875 --> 00:17:34,454 a whatever. 492 00:17:34,914 --> 00:17:35,815 But, you know, 493 00:17:36,755 --> 00:17:39,315 just just be mindful that people do listen 494 00:17:39,315 --> 00:17:40,375 to the old episodes, 495 00:17:40,835 --> 00:17:43,359 and that's okay. Maybe it's nostalgic. 496 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:46,140 It might that's what it is. You know? 497 00:17:46,140 --> 00:17:47,659 I like to go back and listen to 498 00:17:47,659 --> 00:17:50,319 one of my episodes from 2006. 499 00:17:51,019 --> 00:17:52,319 You know? Like, wow. 500 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:55,119 Twenty years ago, I was talking about that, 501 00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:57,615 and that's still an issue? Or, oh my 502 00:17:57,615 --> 00:17:59,775 gosh, what were we worried about? You know, 503 00:17:59,775 --> 00:18:00,835 whatever it was. 504 00:18:01,454 --> 00:18:04,335 And, you know but maybe spring cleaning is 505 00:18:04,335 --> 00:18:05,694 the time to go back and listen to 506 00:18:05,694 --> 00:18:07,534 some of your old stuff and see if 507 00:18:07,534 --> 00:18:08,034 it's 508 00:18:08,849 --> 00:18:11,490 still applicable and, you know, you might wanna 509 00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:13,170 just cut down your feed and get rid 510 00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:15,670 of 100 episodes. You could do that. 511 00:18:16,289 --> 00:18:17,430 You don't have to, 512 00:18:17,809 --> 00:18:20,369 but Right. You might want to. You never 513 00:18:20,369 --> 00:18:20,869 know. 514 00:18:21,605 --> 00:18:22,105 Overcomplicated 515 00:18:22,965 --> 00:18:23,465 formats. 516 00:18:24,005 --> 00:18:26,164 I can kinda speak to that because I 517 00:18:26,164 --> 00:18:29,144 am a person who likes to dabble. 518 00:18:29,445 --> 00:18:31,845 I wanna I'll I'll watch something or I'll 519 00:18:31,845 --> 00:18:33,670 hear something, and I'm like, oh, how do 520 00:18:33,670 --> 00:18:35,830 I apply that to my show? And then 521 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:37,049 before I know it, 522 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:38,570 you know, my 523 00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:42,390 twenty five minute podcast has, like, 15 different 524 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:44,470 segments, and I barely have enough time to 525 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:46,570 breathe. And then it's just not enjoyable. 526 00:18:47,035 --> 00:18:48,875 But usually, you can see if your audience 527 00:18:48,875 --> 00:18:51,214 doesn't because your stats will start to dip. 528 00:18:51,515 --> 00:18:53,595 I've done that a lot. And so sometimes 529 00:18:53,595 --> 00:18:54,954 you just have to go, no. We're gonna 530 00:18:54,954 --> 00:18:56,095 take it back and, 531 00:18:56,634 --> 00:18:58,575 you know, we've got three segments. 532 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,400 And that's gonna be it for a little 533 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,200 while just to kind of reset. You don't 534 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,500 have to, like, fully, like, 535 00:19:05,799 --> 00:19:07,559 blow up your show in order to do 536 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:09,080 that. You're just gonna okay. We're gonna just 537 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,680 trim things down a little bit and make 538 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,339 it easier. 539 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,640 Right. Well, we you know, we've tried different 540 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,140 formats 541 00:19:14,974 --> 00:19:15,855 on this show 542 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:17,934 Mhmm. Years and, you know, and then, of 543 00:19:17,934 --> 00:19:19,875 course, you know, titles changed, 544 00:19:20,174 --> 00:19:21,394 what, four times. 545 00:19:22,894 --> 00:19:25,214 That and, you know, that might be something 546 00:19:25,214 --> 00:19:27,474 to think about. You don't have to rebrand, 547 00:19:27,535 --> 00:19:30,275 but maybe you need to. That's another 548 00:19:30,679 --> 00:19:31,179 possibility. 549 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Mhmm. But, you know, like with us, we've 550 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,039 tried all these formats, and we always end 551 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:38,279 up coming back to we're gonna flip the 552 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,539 recording on. We're gonna talk about something, 553 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,160 and that's really it. We don't have a 554 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,539 dedicated format anymore. 555 00:19:45,134 --> 00:19:47,934 And Mhmm. I think that's better for the 556 00:19:47,934 --> 00:19:50,595 style of show that we do here. And, 557 00:19:51,134 --> 00:19:53,634 personally, that's what I do on my shows 558 00:19:53,695 --> 00:19:55,855 is, basically, I flip the microphone on and 559 00:19:55,855 --> 00:19:56,674 I talk 560 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,319 and Right. Give it a whole lot of 561 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:01,559 thought. Now that's not probably the best way 562 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:03,000 to do it, but that's the way I 563 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:03,660 do it. 564 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:06,220 Some of the key takeaways, 565 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,480 you know, kinda sum it up. You know, 566 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,900 small updates can make a huge difference. 567 00:20:12,775 --> 00:20:15,255 And again, you don't need to rebrand. Maybe 568 00:20:15,255 --> 00:20:16,474 you don't. But fixing, 569 00:20:16,775 --> 00:20:19,414 you know, fixing stuff like descriptions and links 570 00:20:19,414 --> 00:20:22,615 and how you do things could immediately improve 571 00:20:22,615 --> 00:20:26,230 it. Yeah. And then also, like, still understand 572 00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:28,490 that, you know, you may be at episode 573 00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:30,089 300, but your backlog 574 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:31,369 still matters 575 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:32,250 because 576 00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:35,430 old episodes are still gonna get discovered by 577 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:38,069 people whether you plan for it to or 578 00:20:38,069 --> 00:20:40,705 not. So try and keep them as updated 579 00:20:40,765 --> 00:20:41,505 as possible. 580 00:20:41,965 --> 00:20:44,605 Again, that evergreen content, we've talked about that 581 00:20:44,605 --> 00:20:47,505 a lot over the years. And, you know, 582 00:20:48,365 --> 00:20:49,825 evergreen also means 583 00:20:50,285 --> 00:20:52,445 what does your links look like and stuff 584 00:20:52,445 --> 00:20:53,105 like that. 585 00:20:53,484 --> 00:20:54,705 Right. Right. You 586 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:55,980 know, consistency 587 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,319 is one of those things that really help. 588 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:01,099 You know, if you can do a clean, 589 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:05,159 repeatable workflow that makes publishing easier, reduces all 590 00:21:05,159 --> 00:21:05,899 your burnout, 591 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,365 you know, go for it. Do it. Yep. 592 00:21:08,365 --> 00:21:09,825 And going back to monetization, 593 00:21:10,525 --> 00:21:13,744 which is the theme for the 2026, 594 00:21:14,444 --> 00:21:16,384 you need to be clear about 595 00:21:17,325 --> 00:21:19,804 what your show is, but also what are 596 00:21:19,804 --> 00:21:22,000 your calls to action. If you are gonna 597 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,240 monetize your show, people need to know how 598 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,579 you're doing that, whether that's, hey. Come 599 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,819 join my Patreon for a dollar a month. 600 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,779 Go support 601 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,700 this sponsor or 602 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,700 this business or this course. 603 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,779 You have to direct people 604 00:21:36,615 --> 00:21:37,515 somewhere meaningful 605 00:21:38,134 --> 00:21:39,275 in order for them 606 00:21:39,654 --> 00:21:41,674 to help you monetize your podcast. 607 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,775 So, basically, if it's not helping your show, 608 00:21:44,775 --> 00:21:47,994 get rid of it. Outdated segments, long intros, 609 00:21:48,055 --> 00:21:48,555 unnecessary 610 00:21:49,015 --> 00:21:51,575 steps, you know, that kind of stuff slows 611 00:21:51,575 --> 00:21:54,029 you down. I always dreamt when we first 612 00:21:54,029 --> 00:21:57,069 started doing podcasting. When I first started doing 613 00:21:57,069 --> 00:21:59,630 podcasting, it always seemed like it took me 614 00:21:59,630 --> 00:22:01,309 a really long time to get set up 615 00:22:01,309 --> 00:22:02,849 to the point where I turn the microphone 616 00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:03,410 on. 617 00:22:04,109 --> 00:22:04,609 Now 618 00:22:04,910 --> 00:22:07,789 it's awesome. I walk in here. I fire 619 00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:09,134 up a program. 620 00:22:09,994 --> 00:22:11,454 I fire up the Rodecaster. 621 00:22:12,474 --> 00:22:14,494 I hit record, and I talk. 622 00:22:15,035 --> 00:22:17,054 And that's the fun part of podcasting. 623 00:22:17,355 --> 00:22:19,914 All this other stuff is you know, can 624 00:22:19,914 --> 00:22:21,535 be fun for some, but 625 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,700 if the less friction you have, 626 00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:28,220 the better, and springtime is the best time. 627 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:31,240 Yep. If you haven't reviewed your podcast in 628 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,919 a while, it might be a great time 629 00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:35,819 to do it. Even a few small updates 630 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,179 can make the difference. 631 00:22:38,015 --> 00:22:39,375 And if you need any help with it, 632 00:22:39,375 --> 00:22:41,375 that's what we're here for. 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