1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,540 Everyone. I'm Dave Clements, customer relations and 2 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:05,839 media specialist. That's a new title. I'm trying 3 00:00:05,839 --> 00:00:07,620 to get used to that here at Blueberry. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,900 And I'm Mackenzie Bennett, marketing specialist. 5 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:12,960 Today, we're talking about one of the most 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,539 important and underrated podcasting skills, 7 00:00:16,035 --> 00:00:16,535 interviewing. 8 00:00:17,234 --> 00:00:21,154 So whether you host experts, creators, or just 9 00:00:21,154 --> 00:00:21,654 friends, 10 00:00:22,035 --> 00:00:24,774 how you ask questions shapes the quality 11 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:26,774 of your entire episode. 12 00:00:27,394 --> 00:00:27,894 Definitely. 13 00:00:28,410 --> 00:00:30,489 Great interviews aren't just about who you have 14 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:32,829 on. They're about the conversation that you create. 15 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:37,130 You're listening to Podcast Insider hosted by Mike 16 00:00:37,130 --> 00:00:39,929 Dell, Dave Clements, and Mackenzie Bennett from the 17 00:00:39,929 --> 00:00:40,989 Blueberry team, 18 00:00:41,344 --> 00:00:44,225 bringing you weekly insights, advice, and insider tips 19 00:00:44,225 --> 00:00:46,465 and tricks to help you start, grow, and 20 00:00:46,465 --> 00:00:47,844 thrive through podcasting 21 00:00:48,384 --> 00:00:50,545 with all the support of your team here 22 00:00:50,545 --> 00:00:51,924 at Blueberry Podcasting. 23 00:00:52,304 --> 00:00:54,244 Welcome. Let's dive in. 24 00:00:54,859 --> 00:00:57,600 Good place to start is with curiosity. 25 00:00:58,219 --> 00:01:00,059 I know a lot of people think that 26 00:01:00,059 --> 00:01:01,519 you gotta have all those questions 27 00:01:02,059 --> 00:01:05,099 scripted out, but I think it's nice to 28 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:05,840 come in 29 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:08,159 a little raw and just 30 00:01:09,015 --> 00:01:11,674 not always anticipate what your next question is. 31 00:01:12,615 --> 00:01:15,355 It's been said time and time again about 32 00:01:15,895 --> 00:01:18,215 any type of interviews is that listening is 33 00:01:18,215 --> 00:01:20,534 the most important most important thing that you 34 00:01:20,534 --> 00:01:21,195 can do. 35 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:24,819 Yeah. And you've done way more interviews than 36 00:01:24,819 --> 00:01:25,799 I have, I bet. 37 00:01:26,579 --> 00:01:28,819 I did quite a bit. I used to 38 00:01:28,819 --> 00:01:30,980 do them every week or so for podcast 39 00:01:30,980 --> 00:01:32,900 insider when I did that for a couple 40 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:33,799 years. And 41 00:01:34,225 --> 00:01:36,064 you really do tend to get, like, a 42 00:01:36,064 --> 00:01:36,564 flow 43 00:01:36,865 --> 00:01:38,944 at some point. You know, you you learn 44 00:01:38,944 --> 00:01:39,444 how 45 00:01:40,465 --> 00:01:42,885 to ask one question at a time because 46 00:01:42,944 --> 00:01:44,405 if you ask more than one, 47 00:01:44,704 --> 00:01:46,084 they lose it in their head. 48 00:01:46,385 --> 00:01:48,564 You start to follow-up a little more naturally 49 00:01:48,784 --> 00:01:50,005 as opposed to just 50 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,739 question has been answered. 51 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,180 Now question five. 52 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,359 Right. It's you'll find a cadence, I guess, 53 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:58,359 as you go on, but you it's be 54 00:01:58,359 --> 00:01:58,859 respectful 55 00:01:59,239 --> 00:01:59,739 to 56 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,680 your guest is definitely a big part of 57 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,180 that. 58 00:02:03,494 --> 00:02:06,534 Something else that's super important is crafting questions 59 00:02:06,534 --> 00:02:09,495 that open doors. So not really yes or 60 00:02:09,495 --> 00:02:10,314 no questions, 61 00:02:10,694 --> 00:02:11,435 lean into 62 00:02:12,614 --> 00:02:14,474 prompts that invite storytelling 63 00:02:14,775 --> 00:02:16,555 and reflection for your guest. 64 00:02:17,590 --> 00:02:19,590 Yeah. You see that a lot with some 65 00:02:19,590 --> 00:02:20,489 of the best 66 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:23,030 interviewers. Like you said, just a minute ago, 67 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:25,669 the best interviewers are the best listeners. And 68 00:02:25,669 --> 00:02:28,709 so you have to be actively listening to 69 00:02:28,709 --> 00:02:30,949 what is being said because that is going 70 00:02:30,949 --> 00:02:31,449 to 71 00:02:32,194 --> 00:02:34,935 create prompts for you. So for instance, 72 00:02:35,395 --> 00:02:37,495 you're you're listening to someone 73 00:02:37,955 --> 00:02:41,495 talking about their childhood. Well, maybe some factoid 74 00:02:41,634 --> 00:02:43,074 stands out and then it can be like, 75 00:02:43,074 --> 00:02:44,710 oh, hey. Tell me 76 00:02:45,090 --> 00:02:46,069 about this thing 77 00:02:46,930 --> 00:02:48,069 rather than 78 00:02:49,409 --> 00:02:51,430 just following up with your next question 79 00:02:51,810 --> 00:02:52,310 or 80 00:02:53,090 --> 00:02:54,930 cutting off that train of thought because sometimes 81 00:02:54,930 --> 00:02:56,870 you get so many more gems 82 00:02:57,330 --> 00:02:59,915 from following up like that. And, 83 00:03:00,534 --> 00:03:02,294 you know, a couple of other questions you 84 00:03:02,294 --> 00:03:02,955 could ask 85 00:03:03,335 --> 00:03:05,275 or prompts you could use 86 00:03:05,735 --> 00:03:06,235 just 87 00:03:06,694 --> 00:03:08,395 to keep them at the top of mind 88 00:03:08,615 --> 00:03:10,854 might be, hey. What was going through your 89 00:03:10,854 --> 00:03:13,115 head when you had this experience? 90 00:03:13,415 --> 00:03:13,915 Or 91 00:03:14,290 --> 00:03:15,349 did that experience 92 00:03:16,050 --> 00:03:19,250 change your approach to whatever the subject is 93 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:20,389 that you're talking about? 94 00:03:21,569 --> 00:03:24,050 Yeah. For sure. Marc Maron just ended his 95 00:03:24,050 --> 00:03:25,189 podcast after, 96 00:03:25,810 --> 00:03:26,965 like, sixteen 97 00:03:27,344 --> 00:03:30,324 years or something like that. Yeah. The BPOF 98 00:03:30,465 --> 00:03:32,865 with with Maron. Yeah. With Marc Maron. And 99 00:03:32,865 --> 00:03:35,425 I listened to him for years and he 100 00:03:35,425 --> 00:03:37,905 was always very chatty. He had a podcast 101 00:03:37,905 --> 00:03:39,925 for a reason because he's a talkative guy, 102 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:42,219 But he was chatty in the sense of 103 00:03:42,219 --> 00:03:44,800 asking them questions and having an actual conversation 104 00:03:45,580 --> 00:03:47,580 and going the give and take of a 105 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:49,900 conversation and going back and forth. And he 106 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:51,759 would go off on some tangent because 107 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:53,280 they said something 108 00:03:54,074 --> 00:03:56,395 that correlated to whatever he had to say, 109 00:03:56,395 --> 00:03:58,074 and then he would eventually come back to 110 00:03:58,074 --> 00:04:00,155 it. He was very good at that. He 111 00:04:00,155 --> 00:04:01,514 had a podcast for a long time for 112 00:04:01,514 --> 00:04:02,094 a reason. 113 00:04:02,555 --> 00:04:05,055 Yeah. I mean, being an observational 114 00:04:05,435 --> 00:04:05,935 comedian, 115 00:04:06,669 --> 00:04:09,310 like, you build those skills. And, like, he's 116 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:10,689 been doing it for decades. 117 00:04:10,989 --> 00:04:13,569 Yeah. And he's really good. I just watched 118 00:04:13,629 --> 00:04:15,789 his most recent special not too long ago. 119 00:04:15,789 --> 00:04:16,289 And 120 00:04:17,229 --> 00:04:19,470 not only is he funny, he's just very 121 00:04:19,470 --> 00:04:19,970 insightful. 122 00:04:20,714 --> 00:04:23,355 And I think those are talents. If you 123 00:04:23,355 --> 00:04:25,455 want to get better at the interview, 124 00:04:26,154 --> 00:04:26,895 start watching 125 00:04:27,514 --> 00:04:28,014 observational 126 00:04:28,395 --> 00:04:31,115 comedians because that's what they do. They watch 127 00:04:31,115 --> 00:04:33,694 things, and then they craft stories around it. 128 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,379 It's a really good suggestion. 129 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,860 I I love comedians. I I 130 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,500 wish I I could deliver 131 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:44,920 better. Mhmm. I'm always learning from comedians, just 132 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,840 the way that they interact with the crowd 133 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:47,340 or 134 00:04:47,805 --> 00:04:50,384 things like that. Like, so many good tools 135 00:04:50,444 --> 00:04:52,045 found in comedians. So if you have one 136 00:04:52,045 --> 00:04:54,545 you like, you can probably learn something. 137 00:04:55,404 --> 00:04:57,644 That's a good point. It does go into 138 00:04:57,644 --> 00:05:00,144 the next suggestion that we have, which is 139 00:05:00,449 --> 00:05:02,610 silence can actually be very helpful. It can 140 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:04,229 be your secret weapon sometimes. 141 00:05:04,769 --> 00:05:06,949 You don't have to fill every single 142 00:05:07,250 --> 00:05:07,750 moment 143 00:05:08,209 --> 00:05:10,310 with a word, with a noise. Sometimes 144 00:05:11,089 --> 00:05:12,629 the silence is golden. 145 00:05:13,964 --> 00:05:16,365 Yeah. And that's hard to do, especially when 146 00:05:16,365 --> 00:05:18,365 you are a podcaster. That's the thing you 147 00:05:18,365 --> 00:05:21,024 do. It's hard to not go, yep. And 148 00:05:21,404 --> 00:05:23,985 we talked not too long ago about 149 00:05:24,365 --> 00:05:27,485 your tone and how you present yourself. And 150 00:05:27,485 --> 00:05:29,185 I think just stopping and 151 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,979 soaking in what's being said 152 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:35,160 rather than thinking about what needs to happen 153 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 next, because the silence is not just what's 154 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,800 coming through the microphone or your headphones, but 155 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,560 also what is going on in your head. 156 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,860 And as someone who 157 00:05:43,314 --> 00:05:46,115 is always thinking about the 15,000 158 00:05:46,115 --> 00:05:47,814 things they have to do in a day, 159 00:05:48,035 --> 00:05:50,855 it's hard to make your brain quiet, but 160 00:05:51,235 --> 00:05:53,254 it's a good skill to work on. 161 00:05:54,435 --> 00:05:55,495 With that silence 162 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,039 is staying present and not performative. That silence 163 00:06:00,039 --> 00:06:00,539 can 164 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:03,159 lead you into the next thing that your 165 00:06:03,159 --> 00:06:04,300 guest might say. 166 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:06,919 And instead of focusing on a list of 167 00:06:06,919 --> 00:06:09,959 questions or research that you did ahead of 168 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:10,459 time, 169 00:06:11,794 --> 00:06:14,435 be in the moment and react honestly to 170 00:06:14,435 --> 00:06:16,034 whatever it is that they're saying. It can 171 00:06:16,034 --> 00:06:17,875 turn into a story that way as opposed 172 00:06:17,875 --> 00:06:18,615 to just 173 00:06:18,995 --> 00:06:19,974 ask an answer. 174 00:06:21,154 --> 00:06:22,514 Yeah. The and that was 175 00:06:23,329 --> 00:06:25,490 I was just thinking while you were talking. 176 00:06:25,490 --> 00:06:28,529 So, obviously, not staying present. I was, but 177 00:06:28,529 --> 00:06:29,110 I wasn't. 178 00:06:29,569 --> 00:06:31,250 Like, I did a video not too long 179 00:06:31,250 --> 00:06:32,389 ago about 180 00:06:32,930 --> 00:06:34,310 this particular topic, 181 00:06:34,930 --> 00:06:35,430 and 182 00:06:35,985 --> 00:06:37,745 one of the points that I thought was 183 00:06:37,745 --> 00:06:38,644 really interesting 184 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:40,644 was this concept of 185 00:06:41,425 --> 00:06:44,704 summarizing or restating what your guest said before 186 00:06:44,704 --> 00:06:48,084 you move on. And what that does is, 187 00:06:48,850 --> 00:06:50,870 one, it makes sure that you are aware 188 00:06:51,089 --> 00:06:52,550 of what they're talking about, 189 00:06:52,850 --> 00:06:54,790 but also it reminds your audience 190 00:06:55,170 --> 00:06:57,089 what they were talking about because we all 191 00:06:57,089 --> 00:06:58,470 know as podcast listeners 192 00:06:58,850 --> 00:06:59,350 that 193 00:06:59,810 --> 00:07:02,209 you're gonna get sidetracked. You're probably doing something 194 00:07:02,209 --> 00:07:04,805 else while you listen. So having the host, 195 00:07:04,805 --> 00:07:06,104 like, back up and 196 00:07:06,485 --> 00:07:08,805 let's recap this as we move into the 197 00:07:08,805 --> 00:07:09,544 next question. 198 00:07:09,845 --> 00:07:11,524 That's pretty smart. It was one of my 199 00:07:11,524 --> 00:07:13,524 favorite little tips that I got from doing 200 00:07:13,524 --> 00:07:14,264 that video. 201 00:07:15,044 --> 00:07:16,805 It's a really great idea. I mean, you 202 00:07:16,805 --> 00:07:19,860 see it in all of television too. Less 203 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:21,480 things that are made for streaming, 204 00:07:22,020 --> 00:07:22,520 but 205 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:26,340 especially in reality TV shows where they're like, 206 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:29,139 okay. This happened over the this happened right 207 00:07:29,139 --> 00:07:31,064 before the commercial. Let's recap it 208 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:33,545 while we go into this while we finish 209 00:07:33,545 --> 00:07:36,125 this scene. We cut you off with whatever 210 00:07:36,665 --> 00:07:38,425 that cliffhanger, and now we're coming back to 211 00:07:38,425 --> 00:07:39,705 it, and we have to remind you of 212 00:07:39,705 --> 00:07:40,605 what just happened. 213 00:07:40,985 --> 00:07:42,824 So I think there's a lot of good 214 00:07:42,824 --> 00:07:43,644 reason to 215 00:07:43,949 --> 00:07:45,009 use that tactic. 216 00:07:45,629 --> 00:07:47,149 Yeah. And I think, like, the last little 217 00:07:47,149 --> 00:07:49,569 bit of this concept of staying present 218 00:07:50,189 --> 00:07:50,689 is 219 00:07:51,550 --> 00:07:53,629 even though you're having a conversation in an 220 00:07:53,629 --> 00:07:54,129 interview, 221 00:07:54,509 --> 00:07:55,250 you cannot 222 00:07:55,964 --> 00:07:59,725 chase every single tangent that comes out between 223 00:07:59,725 --> 00:08:02,764 you and your guest. So always be trying 224 00:08:02,764 --> 00:08:05,324 to push it back to this is the 225 00:08:05,324 --> 00:08:06,545 topic at hand, 226 00:08:07,004 --> 00:08:09,004 and, you know, you're gonna end up with 227 00:08:09,004 --> 00:08:09,985 a better product 228 00:08:10,979 --> 00:08:13,939 that way. Yeah. That's definitely true even for 229 00:08:13,939 --> 00:08:17,000 someone you're not necessarily interviewing, just your cohost. 230 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:20,439 You gotta stay together in that sense. 231 00:08:20,819 --> 00:08:22,259 Yeah. I'm sure you're doing a lot of 232 00:08:22,259 --> 00:08:23,939 work this episode trying to keep me on 233 00:08:23,939 --> 00:08:24,680 track because 234 00:08:25,774 --> 00:08:28,014 I don't trust myself sometimes. Sometimes I just 235 00:08:28,014 --> 00:08:29,774 kinda go off on a little tangent in 236 00:08:29,774 --> 00:08:30,834 my head or 237 00:08:31,294 --> 00:08:32,975 I think I'm making a point, and then 238 00:08:32,975 --> 00:08:34,335 I come back and I make the same 239 00:08:34,335 --> 00:08:36,174 point again, not even knowing that I made 240 00:08:36,174 --> 00:08:37,950 that point. So Don't we all? 241 00:08:39,149 --> 00:08:41,629 Don't we all? I think all of our 242 00:08:41,629 --> 00:08:44,110 brains are a little fried with our phones 243 00:08:44,110 --> 00:08:45,889 in our hands at all times. Yeah. 244 00:08:47,870 --> 00:08:50,910 Alright, everyone. That is all for today. Thanks 245 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:51,884 for tuning in. 246 00:08:52,764 --> 00:08:55,745 Yeah. And remember, great interviews come from listening 247 00:08:55,965 --> 00:08:58,205 more than talking, so slow down just a 248 00:08:58,205 --> 00:08:58,865 little bit. 249 00:08:59,485 --> 00:09:01,325 Ask those questions that bring out the best 250 00:09:01,325 --> 00:09:03,745 in your guests and keep the audience curious 251 00:09:03,804 --> 00:09:05,024 for what's next. 252 00:09:06,339 --> 00:09:08,820 And also remember that Blueberry gives you everything 253 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:11,460 you need to record, publish, and share your 254 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:12,839 conversations with the world. 255 00:09:13,539 --> 00:09:15,379 Be sure to follow or subscribe to Podcast 256 00:09:15,379 --> 00:09:18,019 Insider for more podcasting tips, tools, and insights 257 00:09:18,019 --> 00:09:20,184 from the Blueberry team. Thanks, everyone. 258 00:09:20,964 --> 00:09:23,605 Thanks for joining us. 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