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And I guess I start it.

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Welcome to Podcast Insider. I'm Mike Dell, VP

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of customer relations here at Blueberry.

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And I'm Todd Cochran, CEO of Blueberry Podcasting.

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Today,

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we're diving into a topic every podcaster can

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benefit from,

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how to sound your absolute best behind the

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microphone.

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Yeah. We're talking about microphone technique,

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setup basics, a few, simple confidence boosters,

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and,

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you know, that can make a big difference

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in how you come across to your audience.

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And, of course, we're gonna cover a Blueberry

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hosting feature that can polish your audio automatically.

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It's perfect for creators who want that pro

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level sound without doing all the mastering themselves.

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Yeah. Whether you're brand new or hundreds of

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episodes in, these tips will help you tighten

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up your sound and deliver, you know, better

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podcast. So let's jump in.

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You're listening to Podcast Insider hosted by Mike

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Dell, Todd Cochran, and Mackenzie Bennett from the

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Blueberry team,

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bringing you weekly insights, advice, and insider tips

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and tricks to help you start, grow, and

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thrive through podcasting.

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With all the support of your team here

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at Blueberry Podcasting.

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Welcome. Let's dive in.

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We're gonna talk about

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using the right mic. And, of course, I'm

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kind of the oddball in this. I used

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a condenser

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for years and years and years, but I

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highly do not recommend it to probably 95%

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of podcasters out there. Yeah. You you you

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really have to have a good spot

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to to record, you know, real quiet.

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Yeah. Yeah. Condenser with a dynamic, you can

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you know, like this room here, I got,

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helicopters flying over and all sorts of things

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going on and, you you probably don't hear

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any of that.

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Now I've got a, dynamic

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mic, and I have the air conditioner turned

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up

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on absolute

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whole micro blast right now because it's it's

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So I'm using, the Shure SM

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seven b. It's a

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it's a dynamic mic, quite nice one. And,

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of course, there's other ones on the market

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out there like the Samsung q two u,

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and it's great for voice and podcasting.

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And as long as you're speaking into the

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correct side, usually the front up the top,

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you're you're okay.

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Yeah. So make sure, you know, whatever microphone

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you have, make sure you know,

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you know, if it's a side address or

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an end in address or whatever. You know?

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So many people with the Blue Yetis,

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you know, because it looks like this SM7B

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that both Todd and I are using. Well,

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we're not using the same one. We're using

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two different ones. But

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if if you look at it, you look

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at the s m 7B and you look

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at a Blue Yeti, they look kinda similar

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in shape,

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but the Blue Yeti is a side address,

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and that's also a condenser, so don't use

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Well, you know, that my favorite saying is,

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don't let other podcasters

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Blue Yeti mic, so we'll just start there.

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mic positioning

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times. I get a little too close to

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the mic, but, really, you need to be

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two to three inches away.

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windscreen to help

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reduce the plosives, and I I'm real bad

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at this hard p's and b sounds,

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and or a slightly angle.

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Having the mic a little bit off center

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from your mouth to avoid breath noises. So

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it's kind of like turning your head and,

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like,

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pretend you're whispering someone's ear

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microphone. Well well, like where I'm at right

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now, I'm about three inches from the microphone,

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and I have it 45 degrees

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off. You know? So I'm still talking into

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the end, but I'm talking past at 45

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me. You know, your mileage will vary, but,

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you know, this this way, I could still

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see straight ahead, look at my show notes

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here and all that, look at,

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anybody that I'm doing video with, whatever. And

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keeps the,

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breath sounds from hitting the microphone head on.

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kind of turning my head a little bit,

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but it really depends on the situation. If

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I'm doing video, I'm usually head on to

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vary there. But

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unlike me right now, record in a quiet

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carpeted room,

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and that will help. I I have hard

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I do have a green screen behind me

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that helps a little bit with echo.

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when I'm in, my studio in Michigan, I've

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actually got a noise gate.

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that you can use. And but what I

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and I have control over my

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sound environment unless someone decides to start the

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lawnmower up that's in in the I live

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starts a lawnmower, I'm usually pretty good

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in keeping the noise down. But that noise

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gate, if you have

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kind of a traditional system where you have

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something that allows you to set a noise

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gate, especially on the Roadcaster and other types

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of devices,

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it can really kinda just cut out

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that,

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that, you know, that that noise that may

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show up. You know, have someone come and,

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you know, maybe the spouse comes in the

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room and say something, you wave her down.

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with a noise gate.

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again, just make sure that, you know, you've

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got a quiet environment and just let everybody

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know that's around that you know, hey. I'm

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recording now. Like, right now,

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on my office door, I've got a little,

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little like, a hotel

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sign that you'd have for do not disturb.

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I've got one of those that says podcasting

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in progress. And, you know, everybody knows to

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not knock on my door here, so

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it's all good. And, of course, you can

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also let Blueberry master your audio

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audio automatically.

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Auphonic. Auphonic's kind of a used to be

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a standalone tool, and I loved it when

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it was that way. But now it's all

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online, and we've integrated it with Blueberry. So

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for a little extra charge, we can, master

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your audio. That really helps if you're doing

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interviews

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or doing something, you know, where maybe the

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the two hosts are not exactly the same

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level. So that really does that, and it

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cleans up some of that background noise. It's

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not gonna do,

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not gonna do miracles, but it's pretty good.

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for literally

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more than ten, fifteen years. I mean, I

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absolutely love the product,

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the mastering of the audio.

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I don't have to worry about having the

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levels perfect.

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You know, and and that really kinda goes

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into,

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you know, one of the key things is

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watch your levels. You can always be low

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and and fix when the audio is low,

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but you can never fix it when you're

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overdriven.

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12 to minus six, dB when recording, and

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that really

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is gonna help you avoid,

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peaking.

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allow you to have some headroom in fixing

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that. And speaking of background noises, Mike.

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supposed to. Uh-huh. So that's one of those

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little example. Good good example.

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monitor while recording,

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that really helps catch Yeah. Issues early as

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the master in

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and not something that's adjusted because I've made

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a mistake in being plugged into the wrong

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monitoring port and then at the end, have

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some audio that was very hard to fix,

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it really makes you look bad. So better

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to be too low than to be too

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hot. Yeah. You can always boost it. Yeah.

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don't do it. And, also, when you record,

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recording software has different formats you can select

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from, like, you know, Adobe Audition or off

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and that's the highest quality because it's uncompressed.

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gonna do, clipping the ends, leveling, all that

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stuff, at that point, turn it into an

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m p three.

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raw audio, do it in WAV.

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And and and, also, don't upload WAV to,

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to your podcast host.

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It's well, with our,

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with our,

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a phonic leveling, though, it will convert it

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to an m p three for you. But,

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in most cases, you do not wanna try

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to distribute a WAV file as a podcast.

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three. If you are using the media mastering,

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you do want to upload a WAV file.

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where I'm at currently, I've been recording in

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the morning. So I've been waking up,

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spending maybe thirty, forty five minutes doing prep

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and getting ready to record, but you know

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how it is in the morning. Your voice

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can be, you know, it can be bad.

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short warm up sessions here. I'm, like, you

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open, drinking water,

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and trying to get that morning voice,

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under control.

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when anytime the day that you're recording, do

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unless you're a seasoned pro. But even me,

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all these years later, I I do a

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little bit of a warm up as what

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invariably happens is if I don't,

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two minutes in, all of a sudden,

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the bottom of my throat starts itching, and

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then it's like, okay. I have to start

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this over anyway because,

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you know, that that's the last thing people

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wanna hear is, some throat action.

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Early throat action. You guys know what that

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is since gross enough just saying it,

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worse hearing it.

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But,

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you know, as you're as you're getting ready

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to do your show, definitely,

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I I found bullet points have helped a

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lot.

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I don't have scripts per se.

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One thing to I always do is I,

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make sure that I

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realize who I'm talking to. So I have

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a little picture on my computer of

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the audience, the size of the audience that

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I have so I realize who I'm talking

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to.

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That's just one of the things I do.

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What what's some of the stuff you do,

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Mike, when you're Well, this may sound completely

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silly,

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but

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smile when you speak. You know? It it

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makes your tone sound warm, more confident, and,

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you know, it it actually makes you sound

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like you're enjoying yourself instead of just reading

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into a script, you know, that kind of

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thing. But, yeah, we use bullet points here.

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We I use bullet points on my show,

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you know, that kind of thing. And but,

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you know, I know it sounds silly, but,

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you know, smile, be happy when you're doing

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your podcast.

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And, of course, those pauses with purpose where

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you take a breath

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and

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let the thought that you just said ring

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out. Those are always good. Silence is powerful.

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Don't rush.

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Yeah. It gets listeners time to really absorb

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and nothing to it gives you time to

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breathe. Yep. Yep. Well, coming from radio, you

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know, silence was deadly,

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and it took a really long time for

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me to quit doing that, you know, where

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that's where the umms and ahs and stuff

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come in because you gotta fill that blank

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space. Don't.

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Just make a little silence instead of an

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or an ah or, you know, some other

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filler noise, and that'll help you out a

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lot. I've always saw the umms and ahs

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come from lack of preparation. So as long

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as you're prepared, there should not be

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as much,

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umms and ahs that,

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that happen. Of course, I always imagine that

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I'm

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talking to my audience, that they're sitting right

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there with me at the table.

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Some people say talk to one person,

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but

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podcasting is a very intimate,

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medium, so you're definitely

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want to come across as one to one.

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You wanna make that person feel as if

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you're talking to them so that talking to

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one person

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metaphor really, really is important. And, of course,

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most of us don't like listening to our

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episodes.

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But one of the things that will help

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you get

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better quicker

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yes. Is that a right way to say

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that? Yeah.

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Review your episodes.

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And know Aries very strong sound strong as

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I know now when I'm coming in to

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record if I have

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had a long day and I'm out of

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gas or if I,

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had a a Red Bull and I've got

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enough energy to cover me for forty minutes

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or if it's probably better not even to

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pull up the mic. So you that energy

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level

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is really, really important,

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For sure. If it comes across real clear.

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Yeah. And also confidence. You know, sound like

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your confidence even if you're not. You know?

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Fake it till you make it is the

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old saying, and,

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you know,

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it really

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grows.

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The more you do it and the more,

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you know, the more you pretend to be

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confident, the more you're actually gonna become confident.

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And don't be nervous. This is a recording.

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You don't have to be perfect the first

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time. You can do it over and over

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and over if you have to, so don't

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ever worry about that. Just

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be confident.

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And even if you're not, sound confident.

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And I always say that for a new

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podcast, it's gonna take you ten, twenty, thirty,

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forty, fifty episodes before you really truly find

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your voice.

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And don't be worried about how episode one

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sound is compared to episode five. We all

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know that the podcast get better over time,

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and that's the most important thing is to

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be able to hit record, get that episode

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in the can,

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and learn from it and be able to

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move on. I hope these

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tips have helped you.

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And, really, that's pretty much a wrap on

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this episode about Mike technique and on mic

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confidence.

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And I guess we hope that you picked

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up a few ideas to, really to level

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up your sound.

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Then, of course, don't forget, if you're hosting

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with Blueberry, you can always add the, media

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That'll clean up and optimize your audio.

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You know, after you've uploaded it, we process

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it, and, it does a pretty darn good

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job. I I'm very impressed with it.

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And some other folks use Ophonic in the

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podcasting space, but they don't

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acknowledge them. And the reason we do is

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because we have a long history and we

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really trust the tool. But, of course, for

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more podcasting tips and tools, head over to

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blueberry.com. And, of course, if you need help,

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the support team is there to help you.

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And, Mike or Dave or Sean will be

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the one that you communicate with,

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and, of course, I'm always available for consulting

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as well.

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Yeah. So thanks for tuning in. And as

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always, keep podcasting. And if, you wanna read

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the full show notes of this episode, go

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over to podcastinsider.com.

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