1 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:02,899 At athenahealth, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,480 we know your ambulatory practice wants healthier, a 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,779 healthier business, healthier care teams, and healthier patients. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,400 But the complexities of modern health care tech 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,240 make it hard for you and your care 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,945 teams to focus on what matters most. 7 00:00:16,504 --> 00:00:18,285 Most? That's where athenahealth can help. 8 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:21,545 Our AI native all in one solutions reduce 9 00:00:21,545 --> 00:00:22,605 administrative burdens, 10 00:00:22,984 --> 00:00:25,945 streamline billing and payments, and deliver critical insights 11 00:00:25,945 --> 00:00:27,484 when clinicians need it most. 12 00:00:27,864 --> 00:00:30,445 That means fewer clicks, more time for patients, 13 00:00:30,504 --> 00:00:31,940 and stronger bottom 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,520 lines. Practicing medicine is complex, but running a 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,859 practice can be that much simpler with athenahealth. 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,179 See how simpler is healthier at athenahealth.com. 17 00:00:43,975 --> 00:00:46,375 Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Chris 18 00:00:46,375 --> 00:00:48,134 Sosa, your host, and I'm thrilled to be 19 00:00:48,134 --> 00:00:50,454 joined today by doctor Miriam Parsa. She is 20 00:00:50,454 --> 00:00:53,494 a pediatric rheumatologist and the chief pediatric medical 21 00:00:53,494 --> 00:00:55,814 officer at Cottage Children's Medical Center in Santa 22 00:00:55,814 --> 00:00:56,714 Barbara, California. 23 00:00:57,260 --> 00:00:59,020 She joins us to discuss her organization's work 24 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:01,039 with Children's Hospital Los Angeles. 25 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:03,820 Miriam, thank you for joining us today. Thank 26 00:01:03,820 --> 00:01:05,340 you for having me. It's a privilege to 27 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:06,859 talk about the work that we are doing 28 00:01:06,859 --> 00:01:07,920 and will be doing. 29 00:01:08,299 --> 00:01:10,939 Excellent. Miriam, for those in our audience who 30 00:01:10,939 --> 00:01:12,484 are not familiar with you and your work, 31 00:01:12,484 --> 00:01:14,724 could you just please introduce yourself and tell 32 00:01:14,724 --> 00:01:15,944 us a bit about your background? 33 00:01:16,325 --> 00:01:19,385 Yes. No problem. I'm a pediatric rheumatologist, 34 00:01:20,245 --> 00:01:22,484 and I always introduce myself first as a 35 00:01:22,484 --> 00:01:25,625 pediatric rheumatologist even though I have two jobs 36 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:26,424 at the moment. 37 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:28,969 I came here about eleven years ago, 38 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:31,290 and, I've been the sole practitioner 39 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:32,950 here covering, 40 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:35,510 three counties, but, actually, probably a little bit 41 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:37,510 more as we get referrals from these other 42 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:38,564 counties as well. 43 00:01:39,204 --> 00:01:41,284 But I'm speaking to you today as the 44 00:01:41,284 --> 00:01:43,064 chief pediatric medical officer, 45 00:01:43,444 --> 00:01:45,064 and I assume this role 46 00:01:45,525 --> 00:01:47,225 almost three years ago now. 47 00:01:47,605 --> 00:01:47,924 And, 48 00:01:48,885 --> 00:01:52,084 I really wasn't looking into a leadership position, 49 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:54,789 being the sole pediatric rheumatologist. 50 00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:55,670 However, 51 00:01:56,129 --> 00:01:56,869 it just 52 00:01:57,569 --> 00:02:01,170 happened to be that my predecessor, doctor Steve 53 00:02:01,170 --> 00:02:03,109 Barclay, retired a few years ago. 54 00:02:03,569 --> 00:02:06,149 And, he really encouraged me, 55 00:02:07,415 --> 00:02:09,834 to consider this administrative opportunity, 56 00:02:10,935 --> 00:02:13,014 because I love the work that we're doing 57 00:02:13,014 --> 00:02:16,615 here. It's quite inspirational. I, again, appreciate this 58 00:02:16,615 --> 00:02:17,115 opportunity 59 00:02:17,655 --> 00:02:19,495 to share the the great work that we're 60 00:02:19,495 --> 00:02:20,555 doing in the partnership, 61 00:02:21,629 --> 00:02:24,210 with CHI that's allowing us to talk today. 62 00:02:25,150 --> 00:02:26,990 Miriam, what is there anything that you've learned 63 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:30,050 about yourself so far having jumped into this 64 00:02:30,270 --> 00:02:31,490 administrative role? 65 00:02:32,430 --> 00:02:35,169 Great question. I've learned so much 66 00:02:36,044 --> 00:02:37,104 about the process, 67 00:02:37,644 --> 00:02:39,504 about what goes on beyond 68 00:02:40,125 --> 00:02:40,944 patient care, 69 00:02:41,805 --> 00:02:42,465 the complexity 70 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:44,064 behind it. 71 00:02:44,685 --> 00:02:47,004 I don't take for granted that I work 72 00:02:47,004 --> 00:02:49,344 in its institution that is mission driven, 73 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,459 and that is a rare commodity 74 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,719 these days considering the pressures that we face 75 00:02:55,719 --> 00:02:57,580 in health care, financial pressures. 76 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,500 I have learned 77 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,739 that this isn't easy. 78 00:03:03,294 --> 00:03:04,974 That's a perfect segue, I think, into what 79 00:03:04,974 --> 00:03:07,215 we talked about or mentioned at the top, 80 00:03:07,215 --> 00:03:09,294 Miriam, and that is the work that you 81 00:03:09,455 --> 00:03:12,415 your organization are doing with, Children's Hospital Los 82 00:03:12,415 --> 00:03:14,415 Angeles. So let's get into that. Could you 83 00:03:14,415 --> 00:03:16,415 let us know how that collaboration with the 84 00:03:16,415 --> 00:03:17,555 organization evolved? 85 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:21,090 Yes. This happened actually predated me. Started the 86 00:03:21,090 --> 00:03:21,590 conversation, 87 00:03:22,449 --> 00:03:23,269 with administration 88 00:03:24,289 --> 00:03:26,289 several years ago. So there are, 89 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:29,430 you know, several sole providers such as myself 90 00:03:29,489 --> 00:03:31,590 that's providing care for many 91 00:03:31,889 --> 00:03:33,705 families along the Central Coast. 92 00:03:34,264 --> 00:03:37,064 We understand that that's a challenge, and so 93 00:03:37,064 --> 00:03:40,264 we really were looking forward to develop developing 94 00:03:40,264 --> 00:03:41,004 a partnership 95 00:03:41,705 --> 00:03:43,564 that would allow us to make 96 00:03:43,944 --> 00:03:44,444 the 97 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:47,965 care here locally a little bit more robust. 98 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:50,930 So number one, it probably would be, 99 00:03:51,569 --> 00:03:54,469 especially to support in creating that depth. 100 00:03:55,169 --> 00:03:57,330 I'd say the other part is that we 101 00:03:57,330 --> 00:03:59,430 know we can't take care of all complex 102 00:03:59,889 --> 00:04:01,590 diseases and problems here. 103 00:04:02,625 --> 00:04:04,084 What's best for the families 104 00:04:04,384 --> 00:04:06,485 is to provide local care 105 00:04:07,425 --> 00:04:09,425 the best we can and when we can't 106 00:04:09,425 --> 00:04:11,604 provide that local care to have a consistent 107 00:04:11,745 --> 00:04:12,245 partner. 108 00:04:13,025 --> 00:04:15,860 And that was another great reason. We wanna 109 00:04:15,860 --> 00:04:17,860 keep our patients, but we understand we can't 110 00:04:17,860 --> 00:04:19,399 keep all patients here, 111 00:04:20,019 --> 00:04:21,399 because of our size. 112 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:25,620 Miriam, I'm also curious what changes with respect 113 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:26,439 to this collaboration 114 00:04:26,899 --> 00:04:28,120 are exciting you most? 115 00:04:29,044 --> 00:04:31,685 There's a lot. It's almost overwhelming, all the 116 00:04:31,685 --> 00:04:32,185 potentials. 117 00:04:32,724 --> 00:04:34,024 And I think I had mentioned 118 00:04:34,404 --> 00:04:36,024 first creating depth 119 00:04:36,485 --> 00:04:37,305 to my colleagues, 120 00:04:38,805 --> 00:04:41,704 and that will be through potentially joint hires, 121 00:04:42,810 --> 00:04:44,269 a little bit more streamlined, 122 00:04:45,050 --> 00:04:46,189 coordinated care, 123 00:04:46,889 --> 00:04:47,949 also opportunities 124 00:04:48,329 --> 00:04:49,629 for additional training. 125 00:04:50,649 --> 00:04:52,990 CHLA is a tremendous organization 126 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:54,350 with 127 00:04:55,225 --> 00:04:56,444 hundreds of specialty, 128 00:04:57,145 --> 00:04:57,645 specialists, 129 00:04:58,345 --> 00:04:59,884 at this Courtenay care hospital. 130 00:05:00,345 --> 00:05:01,805 So we'd like to take advantage 131 00:05:02,345 --> 00:05:05,245 of that educational opportunity for nurses, 132 00:05:05,865 --> 00:05:08,585 for physicians. We have a pediatric residency program 133 00:05:08,585 --> 00:05:11,459 here, which will stay at the Cottage Campus. 134 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,639 However, maybe there is some interest in the 135 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:15,139 future 136 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:17,860 in additional educational opportunities. 137 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,000 We also are just very family centric here. 138 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,519 So we want to take care of our 139 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:26,235 patients here, And so having a reliable 140 00:05:26,694 --> 00:05:27,194 partner 141 00:05:27,654 --> 00:05:29,894 will allow us to bring them back when 142 00:05:29,894 --> 00:05:31,435 it's time for them to come back. 143 00:05:32,454 --> 00:05:33,754 Miriam, clearly, this 144 00:05:34,214 --> 00:05:36,774 partnership is something you're very much looking forward 145 00:05:36,774 --> 00:05:37,675 to, and, hopefully, 146 00:05:38,669 --> 00:05:40,350 many people at your organization are being able 147 00:05:40,350 --> 00:05:41,490 to take advantage of this. 148 00:05:42,430 --> 00:05:44,689 As someone who's gone through this partnership 149 00:05:46,189 --> 00:05:47,810 and locking it all down, 150 00:05:48,189 --> 00:05:50,189 what advice would you give to other systems 151 00:05:50,189 --> 00:05:51,009 that are pursuing 152 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:52,289 similar partnerships? 153 00:05:52,910 --> 00:05:53,410 Yeah. 154 00:05:53,785 --> 00:05:55,704 Several things come to mind. I would say 155 00:05:55,704 --> 00:05:57,644 first, making sure both organizations' 156 00:05:58,345 --> 00:05:59,485 missions align. 157 00:06:00,264 --> 00:06:02,285 And on day one, that was very clear 158 00:06:02,345 --> 00:06:03,245 with CHLA 159 00:06:04,264 --> 00:06:05,084 that CHLA 160 00:06:05,384 --> 00:06:08,100 and Cottage, we take care of every pediatric 161 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:10,120 patient that needs care locally. 162 00:06:10,819 --> 00:06:12,339 The second really is, 163 00:06:12,979 --> 00:06:15,300 making sure your administration is aligned with the 164 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:15,800 clinicians. 165 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:17,959 We have a great relationship, 166 00:06:18,339 --> 00:06:21,079 the clinical leaders as well as the administrative 167 00:06:21,379 --> 00:06:21,879 leaders. 168 00:06:22,235 --> 00:06:24,574 They really were open and listened to us. 169 00:06:25,274 --> 00:06:26,095 I think that's 170 00:06:26,475 --> 00:06:27,774 really important. And 171 00:06:28,074 --> 00:06:28,895 and lastly, 172 00:06:29,754 --> 00:06:30,814 relationship building. 173 00:06:31,274 --> 00:06:34,634 Relationship building comes up frequently when we are 174 00:06:34,634 --> 00:06:36,335 having these joint calls. 175 00:06:37,339 --> 00:06:39,500 They CHLA needs to know who we are 176 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:41,600 and the excellent work that we're doing here, 177 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:45,020 and so that starts with Zoom meetings. So 178 00:06:45,020 --> 00:06:47,899 within PEAS, we've had every unit meet, and 179 00:06:47,899 --> 00:06:48,879 that will continue. 180 00:06:49,245 --> 00:06:50,925 So when there is something that comes up 181 00:06:50,925 --> 00:06:52,064 with a PICU patient, 182 00:06:53,245 --> 00:06:55,404 my PICU knows who to call on the 183 00:06:55,404 --> 00:06:56,625 CHLA side. 184 00:06:57,404 --> 00:07:00,204 So, really, that relationship building, I think, is 185 00:07:00,204 --> 00:07:01,264 really gonna be 186 00:07:01,644 --> 00:07:02,865 paramount and foundational 187 00:07:03,165 --> 00:07:04,704 to the success of this relationship. 188 00:07:06,069 --> 00:07:08,149 You mentioned the Zoom meetings, Miriam. So how 189 00:07:08,149 --> 00:07:08,970 often are 190 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:11,990 are you on the grounds of CHLA and 191 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:13,990 and vice versa? How often does does that 192 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:15,129 exchange take place? 193 00:07:16,149 --> 00:07:20,410 We were at CHLA through the interview process 194 00:07:20,694 --> 00:07:21,995 of the coronary care. 195 00:07:22,615 --> 00:07:24,615 We started with an RFI. We had a 196 00:07:24,615 --> 00:07:26,795 consultant help assist with the process. 197 00:07:27,415 --> 00:07:29,814 So so far, it's just been through the 198 00:07:29,814 --> 00:07:30,795 site interviews, 199 00:07:31,654 --> 00:07:32,955 but we have a 200 00:07:33,699 --> 00:07:35,720 a lot of work to do as stated, 201 00:07:35,779 --> 00:07:38,259 and so Zoom, that is so much easier 202 00:07:38,259 --> 00:07:40,439 to start with. Right. Right. We're anticipating 203 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:42,899 some on-site visits. But, you know, with, 204 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:46,100 LA traffic, that's not the easiest thing to 205 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:46,600 do. 206 00:07:48,225 --> 00:07:51,125 No. For sure. Thankfully, you know, digital 207 00:07:51,665 --> 00:07:52,884 means allow you to 208 00:07:53,345 --> 00:07:54,965 collaborate much more efficiently 209 00:07:55,585 --> 00:07:58,145 than that. But I was curious because, you 210 00:07:58,145 --> 00:07:59,824 know, you are in the the same state 211 00:07:59,824 --> 00:08:02,529 and, yes, you're tens of hundreds of miles 212 00:08:02,529 --> 00:08:04,389 apart, but, you know, I'm sure that 213 00:08:05,090 --> 00:08:07,750 part of this collaboration means seeing each other's, 214 00:08:08,610 --> 00:08:09,990 work, you know, firsthand. 215 00:08:10,449 --> 00:08:11,430 Does that make sense? 216 00:08:11,889 --> 00:08:13,189 That's right. Yeah. 217 00:08:13,970 --> 00:08:16,389 Miriam, is there anything else about your 218 00:08:16,875 --> 00:08:18,955 partnership that you want to tell the audience 219 00:08:18,955 --> 00:08:19,455 about? 220 00:08:20,314 --> 00:08:21,375 That the 221 00:08:21,675 --> 00:08:23,375 state of pediatric care 222 00:08:24,154 --> 00:08:24,654 is 223 00:08:25,115 --> 00:08:25,935 a bit tenuous. 224 00:08:26,955 --> 00:08:28,415 We're talking about workforce 225 00:08:28,875 --> 00:08:29,375 shortages. 226 00:08:29,995 --> 00:08:32,059 You know, as a pediatric rheumatologist, we had 227 00:08:32,059 --> 00:08:33,279 about half of fellowship, 228 00:08:34,299 --> 00:08:34,799 programs, 229 00:08:36,059 --> 00:08:36,559 filled. 230 00:08:37,259 --> 00:08:39,840 So, we have to be efficient 231 00:08:40,379 --> 00:08:41,519 with limited resources. 232 00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:44,879 And this program development, I think, 233 00:08:46,184 --> 00:08:46,684 strategic 234 00:08:47,065 --> 00:08:47,565 partnerships 235 00:08:48,504 --> 00:08:51,225 are an efficient way to work with the 236 00:08:51,225 --> 00:08:52,684 resources we do have. 237 00:08:53,544 --> 00:08:55,884 That makes sense, Miriam. Thank you so much 238 00:08:55,944 --> 00:08:58,504 today for joining us and adding your insights. 239 00:08:58,504 --> 00:09:00,584 We know our audience cannot wait to hear 240 00:09:00,584 --> 00:09:02,540 them. We can't wait to share them with 241 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:03,840 them. Miriam, 242 00:09:04,220 --> 00:09:05,980 I'm very much looking forward to the next 243 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:07,360 time our paths cross. 244 00:09:07,899 --> 00:09:09,360 Thank you, Chris, so much. 245 00:09:11,820 --> 00:09:14,620 At Athena Health, we know your ambulatory practice 246 00:09:14,620 --> 00:09:15,519 wants healthier, 247 00:09:16,034 --> 00:09:18,835 a healthier business, healthier care teams, and healthier 248 00:09:18,835 --> 00:09:19,335 patients. 249 00:09:19,794 --> 00:09:22,034 But the complexities of modern health care tech 250 00:09:22,034 --> 00:09:23,955 make it hard for you and your care 251 00:09:23,955 --> 00:09:25,894 teams to focus on what matters most. 252 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:27,629 That's where athena Health can 253 00:09:28,190 --> 00:09:30,529 help. Our AI native all in one solutions 254 00:09:30,590 --> 00:09:32,210 reduce administrative burdens, 255 00:09:32,590 --> 00:09:35,549 streamline billing and payments, and deliver critical insights 256 00:09:35,549 --> 00:09:38,350 when clinicians need it most. That means fewer 257 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:41,230 clicks, more time for patients, and stronger bottom 258 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:41,625 lines. 259 00:09:42,345 --> 00:09:44,284 Practicing medicine is complex, 260 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:46,345 but running a practice can be that much 261 00:09:46,345 --> 00:09:47,404 simpler with athenahealth. 262 00:09:48,105 --> 00:09:51,804 See how simpler is healthier at athenahealth.com.