1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Chris 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,759 Olson, and I'm thrilled to be joined today 3 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:06,000 by doctor Sarah Hohen, chief medical officer at 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,720 La Rabida Children's Hospital in Chicago, and Christina 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,199 Lindboom, program director of care coordination and social 6 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:13,439 work at La Rabida. Sarah and Christina, thank 7 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:14,660 you for joining us today. 8 00:00:15,094 --> 00:00:16,714 Thank you. We're excited to be here. 9 00:00:17,254 --> 00:00:19,894 Excellent. Sarah and Christina, could you please just 10 00:00:19,894 --> 00:00:21,035 take a minute and introduce, 11 00:00:21,414 --> 00:00:22,855 yourselves to our audience and tell us a 12 00:00:22,855 --> 00:00:23,914 bit about your background? 13 00:00:24,614 --> 00:00:27,254 Sure. So I'm Sarah Hohen. I'm the chief 14 00:00:27,254 --> 00:00:29,594 medical officer here at La Revita. 15 00:00:30,149 --> 00:00:30,969 I'm a pediatrician 16 00:00:31,670 --> 00:00:35,109 by training who is board certified in critical 17 00:00:35,109 --> 00:00:39,289 care medicine, hospice and palliative medicine, and Genpeds. 18 00:00:40,309 --> 00:00:42,549 Here at Lara Vida, we have kids with 19 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:44,789 complex medical needs and a lot of kids 20 00:00:44,789 --> 00:00:45,835 with technology, 21 00:00:46,295 --> 00:00:48,935 and we're really focused on how we can 22 00:00:48,935 --> 00:00:51,414 help our kids live their best lives while 23 00:00:51,414 --> 00:00:51,914 simultaneously 24 00:00:52,774 --> 00:00:55,495 improving our engagement with the community and those 25 00:00:55,495 --> 00:00:56,315 around us. 26 00:00:57,255 --> 00:00:59,255 And I'm Christina Lindboom. I am the program 27 00:00:59,255 --> 00:01:00,234 director for 28 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,840 care coordination and social work here at La 29 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,659 Rabida, both on the inpatient and outpatient side. 30 00:01:06,119 --> 00:01:08,759 I am a licensed clinical social worker for 31 00:01:08,759 --> 00:01:09,500 the last 32 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,099 twenty five years, 33 00:01:11,479 --> 00:01:14,715 and, I have focused my career on acute 34 00:01:14,715 --> 00:01:15,215 hospitalization 35 00:01:15,515 --> 00:01:17,775 and also community mental health in my past. 36 00:01:18,234 --> 00:01:20,974 And our job of my teams is to 37 00:01:21,515 --> 00:01:22,814 focus on the psychosocial, 38 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:26,394 needs of our families and the social determinants 39 00:01:26,394 --> 00:01:28,155 of health that affect our families on an 40 00:01:28,155 --> 00:01:28,769 everyday basis. 41 00:01:30,209 --> 00:01:32,129 Basis. Excellent. Thank you both for telling us 42 00:01:32,129 --> 00:01:33,189 a bit about yourselves. 43 00:01:33,569 --> 00:01:35,569 We are on the podcast today to talk 44 00:01:35,569 --> 00:01:37,989 about food insecurity in in particular. 45 00:01:38,849 --> 00:01:40,609 So this is something that you both are 46 00:01:40,609 --> 00:01:43,329 very passionate about, correcting in the Chicago area 47 00:01:43,329 --> 00:01:44,655 and hopefully beyond that, 48 00:01:45,135 --> 00:01:47,234 depending on how far your efforts can go. 49 00:01:47,614 --> 00:01:48,094 So, 50 00:01:48,415 --> 00:01:50,575 doctor Hohen, could you tell us a bit 51 00:01:50,575 --> 00:01:51,715 about how Larabita 52 00:01:52,094 --> 00:01:54,494 what address what led the hospital to address 53 00:01:54,494 --> 00:01:56,494 food security, and have you worked with any 54 00:01:56,494 --> 00:01:58,754 helpful models or partners, anything to that effect? 55 00:01:59,750 --> 00:02:01,510 Yeah. For sure. So one of the things 56 00:02:01,510 --> 00:02:03,750 we know is that living in Chicago, we 57 00:02:03,750 --> 00:02:05,829 know that about one in four children have 58 00:02:05,829 --> 00:02:06,650 food insecurity. 59 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:08,629 We know that on the South Side Of 60 00:02:08,629 --> 00:02:10,009 Chicago and in our, 61 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:11,610 immediate area 62 00:02:11,995 --> 00:02:14,075 where we're located, it's more like one out 63 00:02:14,075 --> 00:02:16,495 of three children have issues with food insecurity. 64 00:02:17,194 --> 00:02:19,275 I know from when we used to see 65 00:02:19,275 --> 00:02:22,075 patients in clinic and all different times that 66 00:02:22,075 --> 00:02:24,314 if you're interacting with families, a lot of 67 00:02:24,314 --> 00:02:26,254 the times, if people are 68 00:02:26,709 --> 00:02:28,709 not as willing to talk to you or 69 00:02:28,709 --> 00:02:31,430 they're acting shut down or you're really getting 70 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:32,489 a sense of disengagement 71 00:02:32,789 --> 00:02:33,449 from them, 72 00:02:34,389 --> 00:02:36,069 a lot of times what we found is 73 00:02:36,069 --> 00:02:38,875 that sometimes it's just literally hunger. I mean, 74 00:02:38,875 --> 00:02:40,955 if you think about how you feel if 75 00:02:40,955 --> 00:02:43,355 you skipped breakfast and lunch and people talk 76 00:02:43,355 --> 00:02:45,995 colloquially about the word hangry. Right? Like, you're 77 00:02:45,995 --> 00:02:47,375 hungry and you're angry. 78 00:02:47,835 --> 00:02:49,915 And if you think about families that might 79 00:02:49,915 --> 00:02:52,014 not have enough access to food, 80 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:54,759 how much just offering them a granola bar 81 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:56,840 and apple juice can do to improve their 82 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,400 engagement and improve their mood. And so I 83 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,080 think part of it was we were seeing 84 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:01,580 people, 85 00:03:02,519 --> 00:03:05,159 that were coming in that didn't necessarily wanna 86 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:08,174 disclose that they don't have access to food 87 00:03:08,174 --> 00:03:10,995 because it's something that's really hard for people 88 00:03:11,055 --> 00:03:11,955 to talk about. 89 00:03:12,334 --> 00:03:12,995 We know, 90 00:03:13,375 --> 00:03:15,294 in our work in the greater community that 91 00:03:15,294 --> 00:03:17,375 there's a lot of food insecurity in the 92 00:03:17,375 --> 00:03:17,875 area. 93 00:03:18,894 --> 00:03:20,735 And so what we did when we wanted 94 00:03:20,735 --> 00:03:23,150 to address this was we modeled this after 95 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:25,330 the feed first food pantries, 96 00:03:25,710 --> 00:03:27,310 which are a model that was created by 97 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:30,349 Stacy Lindau, who's a physician at University of 98 00:03:30,349 --> 00:03:33,069 Chicago through the Lindau lab. And they looked 99 00:03:33,069 --> 00:03:34,830 a lot at food deserts in the South 100 00:03:34,830 --> 00:03:36,935 Side Of Chicago and all the different areas. 101 00:03:37,314 --> 00:03:39,474 And so we modeled it on this feed 102 00:03:39,474 --> 00:03:40,455 first pantry, 103 00:03:40,835 --> 00:03:43,395 which is literally having access just it might 104 00:03:43,395 --> 00:03:44,935 start with something like a bookshelf, 105 00:03:45,395 --> 00:03:46,534 having non perishables 106 00:03:47,155 --> 00:03:49,014 that no one has to ask permission, 107 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:51,889 People have free access to it, and they 108 00:03:51,889 --> 00:03:53,409 can take what they need. So it was 109 00:03:53,409 --> 00:03:54,629 important to us 110 00:03:54,930 --> 00:03:57,510 when we open this up that there's no, 111 00:03:58,849 --> 00:04:01,090 barriers to it. So people can come get 112 00:04:01,090 --> 00:04:03,010 a box of cereal. People can come get 113 00:04:03,010 --> 00:04:05,115 a jar of peanut butter and then take 114 00:04:05,115 --> 00:04:06,794 it home and share with their families. So 115 00:04:06,794 --> 00:04:09,055 we did base our model here at Laravita 116 00:04:09,754 --> 00:04:12,735 in conjunction and in partnership with the Lindell 117 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:15,194 Lab at University of Chicago, which had the 118 00:04:15,194 --> 00:04:16,414 Feed First Pantry. 119 00:04:17,729 --> 00:04:20,149 Thank you so much, doctor Hillen. So, Christina, 120 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:21,569 could you give us an idea of the 121 00:04:21,569 --> 00:04:22,389 type of feedback 122 00:04:22,849 --> 00:04:25,089 you've received on the program from patients as 123 00:04:25,089 --> 00:04:27,490 well as from Laura Bida's leadership and staff, 124 00:04:27,490 --> 00:04:28,769 and give us an idea of how long 125 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:30,769 it's been going on and other effects the 126 00:04:30,769 --> 00:04:31,665 program has had? 127 00:04:32,305 --> 00:04:32,805 Sure. 128 00:04:33,585 --> 00:04:35,585 Our food pantry in the outpatient clinic we 129 00:04:35,585 --> 00:04:37,285 located in the outpatient clinic, 130 00:04:38,145 --> 00:04:40,404 which is a central location for both inpatient 131 00:04:40,464 --> 00:04:42,705 and outpatient families that can have the open 132 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:43,925 access to the pantry. 133 00:04:44,910 --> 00:04:45,490 We started 134 00:04:46,110 --> 00:04:47,810 it about two years ago, 135 00:04:48,269 --> 00:04:50,189 but really within the last year, we've really 136 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:53,470 ramped it up and started actually collecting data. 137 00:04:53,470 --> 00:04:55,949 No really identifying information except for a ZIP 138 00:04:55,949 --> 00:04:58,370 code and number of individuals in the household. 139 00:04:58,764 --> 00:05:00,685 And for about the last year, we've served 140 00:05:00,685 --> 00:05:01,884 about 3,500 141 00:05:01,884 --> 00:05:02,384 individuals 142 00:05:03,485 --> 00:05:05,345 that have signed in, and 143 00:05:05,725 --> 00:05:07,004 about 75% 144 00:05:07,004 --> 00:05:08,605 of our families actually sign in on the 145 00:05:08,605 --> 00:05:09,504 sign in sheet. 146 00:05:10,045 --> 00:05:12,125 Feedback from families when we've been stocking the 147 00:05:12,125 --> 00:05:12,625 pantry 148 00:05:13,085 --> 00:05:13,904 have been 149 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,500 fabulous. They 150 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,020 say that it's a lifesaver. 151 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,800 They have acknowledged that this has helped stretch 152 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,779 their food budget. 153 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Most of our families are on the SNAP 154 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,180 program or food stamps, 155 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,860 and they're able to 156 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,460 supplement their 157 00:05:28,904 --> 00:05:31,705 food stamp budget with our the food from 158 00:05:31,705 --> 00:05:34,745 our pantry with our non perishable foods. So 159 00:05:34,745 --> 00:05:36,285 they can focus on getting 160 00:05:36,585 --> 00:05:39,064 more produce and fruits and vegetables and dairy 161 00:05:39,064 --> 00:05:41,545 and meat with their actually SNAP benefits and 162 00:05:41,545 --> 00:05:43,805 the other pantry staples from our food pantry. 163 00:05:44,379 --> 00:05:47,100 Leadership has been very supportive of this, as 164 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:49,740 we recognize the need. My social work and 165 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:52,060 care coordination staff love the fact that we 166 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:53,519 have a small food pantry 167 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:56,954 for our outpatient and inpatient families that if 168 00:05:56,954 --> 00:05:58,475 we have a family that comes to us 169 00:05:58,475 --> 00:06:00,074 and they're hungry and they need food that 170 00:06:00,074 --> 00:06:02,475 day, we have the means now to provide 171 00:06:02,475 --> 00:06:04,475 that to them. Because a lot of the 172 00:06:04,475 --> 00:06:06,475 food pantries here in Chicago, while there are 173 00:06:06,475 --> 00:06:09,375 numerous of them throughout all the various neighborhoods, 174 00:06:09,730 --> 00:06:11,649 they have very limited days and hours. So 175 00:06:11,649 --> 00:06:14,290 by providing food here, we're able to meet 176 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:16,310 that immediate need our families have. 177 00:06:17,009 --> 00:06:19,330 3,500 people that you've already helped with this 178 00:06:19,330 --> 00:06:21,330 program sounds like a terrific start, but no 179 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:22,930 doubt you would like to see it continue 180 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:23,509 to grow. 181 00:06:23,824 --> 00:06:25,504 So as we look over the next three 182 00:06:25,504 --> 00:06:26,404 to five years, 183 00:06:26,865 --> 00:06:28,625 how do you see the program growing, and 184 00:06:28,625 --> 00:06:29,764 are there similar projects 185 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:31,425 at the hospital that you would like to 186 00:06:31,425 --> 00:06:32,404 highlight right now? 187 00:06:33,425 --> 00:06:36,064 Definitely. I think one of our goals is 188 00:06:36,064 --> 00:06:36,725 to increase 189 00:06:37,099 --> 00:06:39,259 access. So in addition to the outpatient food 190 00:06:39,259 --> 00:06:41,839 pantry, we've started an inpatient food pantry. 191 00:06:42,379 --> 00:06:44,860 We know that everybody in 2025 192 00:06:44,860 --> 00:06:46,560 is really dealing with skyrocketing 193 00:06:46,939 --> 00:06:47,759 food prices. 194 00:06:48,139 --> 00:06:49,545 We're also looking at, 195 00:06:49,944 --> 00:06:52,345 an employee food pantry, so we have sort 196 00:06:52,345 --> 00:06:54,904 of different avenues for it. I think when 197 00:06:54,904 --> 00:06:56,985 we think about what our goals are, you 198 00:06:56,985 --> 00:06:59,865 heard Christina mention about families trying to save 199 00:06:59,865 --> 00:07:02,185 their money for dairy and protein and fruits 200 00:07:02,185 --> 00:07:02,845 and vegetables. 201 00:07:03,409 --> 00:07:04,930 And I think what we would love to 202 00:07:04,930 --> 00:07:06,789 see in the future is a way 203 00:07:07,089 --> 00:07:10,289 to really provide more of that fresh fruits, 204 00:07:10,289 --> 00:07:11,029 fresh vegetables, 205 00:07:11,569 --> 00:07:13,089 whether or not we'd be able to start 206 00:07:13,089 --> 00:07:15,490 a garden here. But I do think what 207 00:07:15,490 --> 00:07:17,384 we wanna look at over time is how 208 00:07:17,384 --> 00:07:19,705 we can provide people more fresh fruits and 209 00:07:19,705 --> 00:07:20,205 vegetables 210 00:07:20,585 --> 00:07:23,165 and more healthier options in terms 211 00:07:23,545 --> 00:07:25,625 of access to milk and protein and different 212 00:07:25,625 --> 00:07:27,865 things that are super expensive and really hard 213 00:07:27,865 --> 00:07:30,290 for families to come by. And in general 214 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:32,430 none of the food pantries in the area 215 00:07:32,430 --> 00:07:34,689 the mobile food pantries and things like that 216 00:07:34,910 --> 00:07:37,550 so many of them focus on that Non 217 00:07:37,550 --> 00:07:39,149 perishables and there are so many things you 218 00:07:39,149 --> 00:07:40,669 don't think about right? Like if you go 219 00:07:40,669 --> 00:07:42,110 to a food pantry and you get a 220 00:07:42,110 --> 00:07:44,564 box of macaroni and cheese well, you can't 221 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:46,485 make that macaroni and cheese unless you have 222 00:07:46,485 --> 00:07:49,444 milk. So giving someone a box of macaroni 223 00:07:49,444 --> 00:07:51,204 and cheese isn't gonna help them if they 224 00:07:51,204 --> 00:07:52,805 don't have the milk to make it with 225 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:55,045 when they get home. So we really wanna 226 00:07:55,045 --> 00:07:56,725 look at how we can give them more 227 00:07:56,725 --> 00:07:57,225 comprehensive 228 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:00,419 options that they can use for their whole 229 00:08:00,419 --> 00:08:00,919 family. 230 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:03,139 And I would say one of the projects 231 00:08:03,139 --> 00:08:05,699 that we have, we partnered with Just Roots. 232 00:08:05,699 --> 00:08:08,500 It's a local urban farm that has two 233 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:10,500 urban farms here. One on the South Side 234 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:12,704 Of Chicago has about a half acre farm 235 00:08:12,784 --> 00:08:14,544 within the city limits, and then it also 236 00:08:14,544 --> 00:08:17,185 has another in Stock Village, which is the 237 00:08:17,185 --> 00:08:18,724 South Suburb of Chicago 238 00:08:19,185 --> 00:08:21,185 that has a three acre farm. For the 239 00:08:21,185 --> 00:08:23,685 last four years, we've partnered with them for 240 00:08:23,745 --> 00:08:25,844 what we call our fresh food pharmacy, 241 00:08:26,670 --> 00:08:29,149 and that is able during the growing season 242 00:08:29,149 --> 00:08:32,129 to give our families fresh produce, 243 00:08:32,909 --> 00:08:34,909 fruits and vegetables that are grown locally on 244 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:35,649 these farms. 245 00:08:36,110 --> 00:08:38,590 So this year, we're able to expand it 246 00:08:38,590 --> 00:08:40,769 to at least 30 families per session. 247 00:08:41,305 --> 00:08:43,644 And over the last three years, 248 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:46,105 we've served about 535 249 00:08:46,105 --> 00:08:48,045 families with that partnership. 250 00:08:49,465 --> 00:08:51,705 How wonderful would it be if patients and 251 00:08:51,705 --> 00:08:54,339 their families walk into La Rabita and see 252 00:08:54,339 --> 00:08:56,740 a garden where a lot of these foods 253 00:08:56,740 --> 00:08:58,419 are being grown? Hopefully, that it's only a 254 00:08:58,419 --> 00:08:59,639 matter of time. Obviously, 255 00:09:00,179 --> 00:09:02,259 the weather won't allow for certain things to 256 00:09:02,259 --> 00:09:03,620 be grown here, but I'm sure there's a 257 00:09:03,620 --> 00:09:05,139 lot of progress that could be made on 258 00:09:05,139 --> 00:09:07,299 that front. Is is that something you're you're 259 00:09:07,299 --> 00:09:09,654 really trying to focus on in addition to 260 00:09:09,654 --> 00:09:11,355 the other efforts that you're working on? 261 00:09:12,134 --> 00:09:14,774 Oh, absolutely. We have a whole rooftop that 262 00:09:14,774 --> 00:09:16,534 we've looked at for years and said it 263 00:09:16,534 --> 00:09:18,375 would be a beautiful garden. So we're getting 264 00:09:18,375 --> 00:09:21,335 some different quotes and looking at different ways 265 00:09:21,335 --> 00:09:23,740 we can do that. We do benefit with 266 00:09:23,740 --> 00:09:26,620 our partnership with the University of Chicago. They 267 00:09:26,620 --> 00:09:29,039 have some garden on the Top Floor 268 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:31,360 of their parking lot, 269 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:33,500 and they've been willing to share some of 270 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:35,355 their fresh produce with us, 271 00:09:35,995 --> 00:09:38,714 especially in July and August, later in the 272 00:09:38,714 --> 00:09:41,355 summer times. So it's amazing to see how 273 00:09:41,355 --> 00:09:42,975 even just a few small, 274 00:09:43,914 --> 00:09:46,475 garden beds can really produce a lot of 275 00:09:46,475 --> 00:09:47,695 produce for people. 276 00:09:48,409 --> 00:09:50,329 So that is something that we're actively looking 277 00:09:50,329 --> 00:09:52,009 at here, and we've been working with our, 278 00:09:52,009 --> 00:09:54,169 you know, the landscaping team and things like 279 00:09:54,169 --> 00:09:55,629 that to figure out how, 280 00:09:56,329 --> 00:09:57,769 best to do it. But for sure, it's 281 00:09:57,769 --> 00:09:58,750 one of our goals. 282 00:09:59,370 --> 00:10:01,289 Fresh food is really the key because it's 283 00:10:01,289 --> 00:10:03,825 really about how do you help people not 284 00:10:03,904 --> 00:10:06,144 be hungry, but how do you also help 285 00:10:06,144 --> 00:10:07,285 them be healthy. 286 00:10:07,665 --> 00:10:09,264 And we know that when people are on 287 00:10:09,264 --> 00:10:11,105 food stamps and things like that, you're really 288 00:10:11,105 --> 00:10:13,424 trying to get where you can get the 289 00:10:13,424 --> 00:10:15,504 most bulk. Right? So you wanna get the 290 00:10:15,504 --> 00:10:17,764 cheapest food so people aren't hungry, 291 00:10:18,139 --> 00:10:20,299 but the cheapest foods are often the least 292 00:10:20,299 --> 00:10:22,299 healthy food. So we really wanna look at 293 00:10:22,299 --> 00:10:25,340 how this intersection of health and wellness so 294 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:26,559 we can make sure people 295 00:10:27,179 --> 00:10:29,679 have access to food so they're not hungry, 296 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:33,014 but they also have access to fresh healthy 297 00:10:33,014 --> 00:10:35,754 foods like fruits and vegetables and dairy products 298 00:10:36,294 --> 00:10:38,615 so they can have health and have a 299 00:10:38,615 --> 00:10:39,754 well balanced diet. 300 00:10:41,014 --> 00:10:43,815 Finally, doctor Hohen and Christina. So what advice 301 00:10:43,815 --> 00:10:45,574 would you give to other leaders or any 302 00:10:45,574 --> 00:10:47,674 other health care systems or colleagues, etcetera, 303 00:10:48,049 --> 00:10:50,689 who want to undertake similar efforts? Certainly, your 304 00:10:50,689 --> 00:10:52,850 program is not the only one out there, 305 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:54,789 and maybe you can work with each other, 306 00:10:54,929 --> 00:10:57,169 you know, change exchange ideas and things on 307 00:10:57,169 --> 00:10:58,850 that front. And so what advice would you 308 00:10:58,850 --> 00:10:59,750 have for them? 309 00:11:00,945 --> 00:11:02,544 I do think our advice is that if 310 00:11:02,544 --> 00:11:04,225 you build it, they will come. There's a 311 00:11:04,225 --> 00:11:07,024 huge need for programs like this, and we 312 00:11:07,024 --> 00:11:08,964 know that hospitals have a duty 313 00:11:09,345 --> 00:11:11,904 to help their families holistically to make sure 314 00:11:11,904 --> 00:11:14,080 that all their needs can be met. And 315 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,240 we know that working with the Chicago food 316 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,220 depository, there's a lot fewer mobile food pantries 317 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:21,200 than there used to be. And so we 318 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,799 really wanna encourage people to think about how 319 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:26,179 they can give their families 320 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:27,299 nonjudgmental 321 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:29,299 twenty four seven access 322 00:11:29,934 --> 00:11:30,595 to nonperishable 323 00:11:31,054 --> 00:11:33,294 foods and how you're really looking at what 324 00:11:33,294 --> 00:11:34,034 you're providing 325 00:11:34,574 --> 00:11:36,894 for families to help support them along the 326 00:11:36,894 --> 00:11:38,355 whole continuum of care. 327 00:11:39,454 --> 00:11:41,615 I would also say look at partnering with 328 00:11:41,615 --> 00:11:43,315 your different community organizations. 329 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:46,500 Get your volunteer services involved. 330 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Almost all health systems have a volunteer services. 331 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,919 Get them involved. Reach out to your community 332 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:54,959 organizations that already volunteer in other aspects of 333 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:56,559 the health care system and see if they 334 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,455 would be willing to come in and stop 335 00:11:58,455 --> 00:12:01,174 the pantry or to donate food or to 336 00:12:01,174 --> 00:12:03,815 have a food drive for you. Because the 337 00:12:03,815 --> 00:12:06,875 more community engagement you have around this issue, 338 00:12:07,495 --> 00:12:09,414 the more it can be solved on a 339 00:12:09,414 --> 00:12:10,315 global level. 340 00:12:11,050 --> 00:12:12,029 Sarah, Christina, 341 00:12:12,410 --> 00:12:14,509 best of luck with all the efforts, including 342 00:12:15,050 --> 00:12:16,670 everything you're working on with, 343 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:17,870 improving 344 00:12:18,410 --> 00:12:20,570 food insecurity, and we cannot thank you enough 345 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:22,330 for being so generous with your time, your 346 00:12:22,330 --> 00:12:24,269 insights, your passion for this 347 00:12:24,714 --> 00:12:26,475 topic today, and we can't wait to share 348 00:12:26,475 --> 00:12:28,475 them with our audience. And, hopefully, we'll speak 349 00:12:28,475 --> 00:12:29,774 to you both again soon. 350 00:12:30,154 --> 00:12:32,235 Thank you. Thank you very much. We really 351 00:12:32,235 --> 00:12:34,894 appreciate this opportunity, and we're grateful for it.