1 00:00:05,235 --> 00:00:07,285 - This is the Becker's Healthcare Podcast, created 2 00:00:07,285 --> 00:00:08,445 by the team of Becker's Healthcare, 3 00:00:08,605 --> 00:00:10,325 a multimedia company devoted to the people 4 00:00:10,345 --> 00:00:11,645 who power us healthcare. 5 00:00:11,915 --> 00:00:14,765 Four new 15 minute episodes are released daily containing 6 00:00:14,925 --> 00:00:16,685 industry news analysis and thought leadership. 7 00:00:16,685 --> 00:00:19,605 From powerful healthcare decision makers Support our show 8 00:00:19,705 --> 00:00:22,525 by leaving it a five star rating and review on Apple Podcast 9 00:00:22,745 --> 00:00:24,005 or other platforms you use. 10 00:00:24,155 --> 00:00:26,005 It's a chance to tell us what you like about the show 11 00:00:26,025 --> 00:00:27,245 and act on your feedback. 12 00:00:27,245 --> 00:00:29,205 Thanks for listening. Now here's the episode. 13 00:00:30,275 --> 00:00:32,645 - This is Chris Oser with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast. 14 00:00:33,265 --> 00:00:35,765 I'm Phil today to be joined by Todd ak, president 15 00:00:35,765 --> 00:00:38,445 and CEO of Valley Children's Healthcare in California. 16 00:00:39,075 --> 00:00:40,765 Todd, thank you so much for joining us today. 17 00:00:41,645 --> 00:00:43,695 - It's my pleasure, Chris. Thank you for having me. 18 00:00:44,835 --> 00:00:46,475 - Absolutely. Would you please introduce yourself 19 00:00:46,495 --> 00:00:48,795 and tell our audience a little bit about your background? 20 00:00:49,565 --> 00:00:52,255 - Sure, it's my pleasure. I'm Todd Pac. 21 00:00:52,615 --> 00:00:54,135 I serve as the president 22 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:58,535 and CEO of Valley Children's Healthcare, uh, 23 00:00:58,545 --> 00:01:00,375 which is a health system 24 00:01:00,475 --> 00:01:05,415 or a network that serves, uh, close to 2 million kids 25 00:01:06,155 --> 00:01:08,935 in about a 45,000 square mile service area. 26 00:01:09,355 --> 00:01:13,935 On our main campus, we have a 358 bed quaternary 27 00:01:15,065 --> 00:01:18,855 pediatric, uh, acute care facilities, uh, 28 00:01:19,195 --> 00:01:23,535 and scattered, uh, throughout that service area are a number 29 00:01:23,755 --> 00:01:27,935 of outpatient locations ranging from primary care 30 00:01:28,035 --> 00:01:31,935 to pediatric subspecialty care, so that no matter 31 00:01:31,935 --> 00:01:36,215 where any family is, they, they're able to get 32 00:01:36,235 --> 00:01:39,095 to Valley Children's for help within 30 minutes 33 00:01:39,235 --> 00:01:43,775 or 30 miles across that 45,000 square mile service area. 34 00:01:44,555 --> 00:01:46,655 And we also either own 35 00:01:46,755 --> 00:01:50,735 or operate, uh, with Partners Pediatrics 36 00:01:50,755 --> 00:01:53,095 and seven other acute care facilities 37 00:01:53,195 --> 00:01:54,295 in that same geography. 38 00:01:55,655 --> 00:01:57,325 - Thank you for that. Todd, uh, 39 00:01:57,385 --> 00:02:00,605 valley Children's recently partnered with Wigmore Women's 40 00:02:00,605 --> 00:02:03,125 and Children's Hospital in Armenia, capital of Yon. 41 00:02:03,495 --> 00:02:06,245 Could you explain how did that relationship develop 42 00:02:06,245 --> 00:02:08,325 between your systems and could please describe the 43 00:02:08,325 --> 00:02:09,925 connection between Valley Children's 44 00:02:09,925 --> 00:02:10,925 and the Armenian people? 45 00:02:11,125 --> 00:02:13,885 I know it's a mouthful, but it's, 46 00:02:13,885 --> 00:02:15,325 we're absolutely looking forward to hearing it. 47 00:02:15,915 --> 00:02:17,325 - It's really my pleasure, Chris. 48 00:02:18,205 --> 00:02:20,805 I think it was serendipitous in a way. 49 00:02:21,585 --> 00:02:26,445 Uh, a longtime mentor and friend of mine, uh, Dr. 50 00:02:27,205 --> 00:02:31,005 V Rouge, Alta Barian, who served many years 51 00:02:31,385 --> 00:02:35,365 as the physician in chief here in the central part 52 00:02:35,365 --> 00:02:39,085 of California for Kaiser Permanente, came to see me one day 53 00:02:40,185 --> 00:02:43,565 and asked me if we would help 54 00:02:44,815 --> 00:02:48,035 on a project that he had been engaged on, which was, 55 00:02:48,655 --> 00:02:50,595 um, in Armenia. 56 00:02:51,695 --> 00:02:55,835 And, uh, that project turned out to be a women's 57 00:02:55,935 --> 00:03:00,685 and children's facility, uh, in Yvan Armenia, 58 00:03:01,485 --> 00:03:04,205 Wigmore Women's and Children's Hospital. 59 00:03:05,655 --> 00:03:09,435 And specifically, he wanted to know if we could help 60 00:03:10,385 --> 00:03:13,835 with, uh, the education of young physicians 61 00:03:14,015 --> 00:03:18,635 and clinicians here in the us, uh, 62 00:03:18,815 --> 00:03:21,635 at our main campus facility to begin with, 63 00:03:22,735 --> 00:03:27,315 and specifically if those physicians could observe how we 64 00:03:27,595 --> 00:03:29,555 provided care in our er. 65 00:03:30,755 --> 00:03:33,415 And we of course, said yes. 66 00:03:34,035 --> 00:03:38,245 And I think it's important to note, uh, for those 67 00:03:38,245 --> 00:03:41,815 that may not be familiar, um, during 68 00:03:43,435 --> 00:03:44,695 the unfortunate 69 00:03:45,595 --> 00:03:49,775 and tragic times, uh, of the Armenian genocide, 70 00:03:50,595 --> 00:03:53,655 uh, the Armenian diaspora, uh, 71 00:03:53,915 --> 00:03:58,055 really found a second home, if you will, many, 72 00:03:58,205 --> 00:03:59,575 many Armenians 73 00:03:59,755 --> 00:04:02,695 and people of Armenian descent here in the central part 74 00:04:02,715 --> 00:04:03,975 of the state of California. 75 00:04:04,915 --> 00:04:08,735 And so for us, uh, the close relationship 76 00:04:09,625 --> 00:04:13,635 with those of Armenian descent has been, um, 77 00:04:13,825 --> 00:04:18,365 fundamental part of our over 70 year history now. 78 00:04:19,145 --> 00:04:23,535 And, uh, in fact, that same community, 79 00:04:24,395 --> 00:04:29,055 uh, is one of the most generous in terms of, uh, 80 00:04:29,055 --> 00:04:31,655 philanthropic support to the mission of Valley Children's 81 00:04:32,355 --> 00:04:37,075 and to helping kids of any of the groups that we are blessed 82 00:04:37,135 --> 00:04:38,235 to be supported by. 83 00:04:38,695 --> 00:04:42,555 In fact, there's only one group if we, um, 84 00:04:42,965 --> 00:04:44,275 think about it in that way, 85 00:04:45,065 --> 00:04:48,395 that has surpassed the generosity in terms 86 00:04:48,395 --> 00:04:52,315 of financial support, uh, of the Armenian community 87 00:04:52,315 --> 00:04:53,315 to Valley Children's, 88 00:04:53,335 --> 00:04:57,235 and that that group is the founding guilds 89 00:04:57,695 --> 00:04:59,875 of Valley Children's as an organization 90 00:05:00,025 --> 00:05:02,075 that have been functioning for over 70 years. 91 00:05:02,895 --> 00:05:07,555 So you can see hopefully that this, um, relationship 92 00:05:08,225 --> 00:05:09,875 between Valley Children's 93 00:05:10,535 --> 00:05:14,915 and the community of individuals 94 00:05:14,935 --> 00:05:18,685 of Armenian descent is one that is 95 00:05:19,235 --> 00:05:20,485 closely entwined 96 00:05:21,705 --> 00:05:26,605 and certainly has been part of the formative progression 97 00:05:26,605 --> 00:05:28,125 and evolution of Valley Children's. 98 00:05:28,625 --> 00:05:33,125 And so to be able to give back to the Children's Hospital, 99 00:05:33,225 --> 00:05:36,485 the new Children's Hospital in the country of Armenia, 100 00:05:36,905 --> 00:05:38,485 has really been a no brainer for us. 101 00:05:40,245 --> 00:05:42,985 - And Todd, have you had a chance to, uh, visit Armenia? 102 00:05:42,985 --> 00:05:44,545 Have any of your staff been had a chance 103 00:05:44,545 --> 00:05:45,985 to visit, uh, the hospital there? 104 00:05:47,255 --> 00:05:50,315 - Uh, I have not had the opportunity yet. 105 00:05:50,555 --> 00:05:55,355 I will be, uh, at the invitation of the CEO, uh, 106 00:05:55,415 --> 00:05:58,405 of Wigmore and of my friend, uh, Dr. 107 00:05:58,685 --> 00:06:00,325 V Rouge, Alta Barian. 108 00:06:00,965 --> 00:06:04,445 I will be visiting, uh, Armenia, uh, 109 00:06:04,705 --> 00:06:06,445 in the next fall. 110 00:06:07,105 --> 00:06:08,365 I'm pretty excited about that. 111 00:06:08,865 --> 00:06:13,485 Um, we have had some of our staff, um, our, uh, 112 00:06:14,765 --> 00:06:18,085 p the president of our fundraising foundation. 113 00:06:18,825 --> 00:06:22,325 Uh, Robert Royan, uh, is of Armenian descent. 114 00:06:22,665 --> 00:06:24,805 That's a pretty famous, uh, 115 00:06:24,875 --> 00:06:26,685 last name in the Armenian community. 116 00:06:27,105 --> 00:06:30,005 As you may know. Uh, he has been to Armenia many times, 117 00:06:30,625 --> 00:06:34,485 and actually within the last six months has visited 118 00:06:34,925 --> 00:06:36,765 Wigmore, uh, himself. 119 00:06:37,625 --> 00:06:41,325 And we've also previously, uh, through, uh, 120 00:06:41,325 --> 00:06:46,085 different relationships, uh, sponsored our physicians 121 00:06:46,305 --> 00:06:47,605 to go to Armenia 122 00:06:48,225 --> 00:06:52,605 and provide care in Armenia for, uh, patients 123 00:06:52,725 --> 00:06:56,445 that have various congenital health conditions 124 00:06:57,275 --> 00:07:00,045 that will only accelerate, uh, 125 00:07:00,045 --> 00:07:02,165 through our partnership with Wigmore, 126 00:07:04,095 --> 00:07:06,385 - Looking specifically at that partnership. 127 00:07:06,415 --> 00:07:08,185 Todd, what are the main goals that you have 128 00:07:08,445 --> 00:07:09,785 for this relationship? 129 00:07:12,005 --> 00:07:13,645 - I think the first 130 00:07:13,865 --> 00:07:17,165 and foremost, we want to, uh, 131 00:07:18,375 --> 00:07:21,045 share our knowledge 132 00:07:22,025 --> 00:07:25,955 with our colleagues in Armenia, uh, so that 133 00:07:26,985 --> 00:07:31,285 the children of Armenia, which is a developing country, so 134 00:07:31,285 --> 00:07:35,245 that the children in Armenia, um, have 135 00:07:36,015 --> 00:07:39,515 the opportunity to receive the same quality of care 136 00:07:39,745 --> 00:07:41,515 that we would provide at Valley 137 00:07:41,755 --> 00:07:43,035 Children's here in the United States. 138 00:07:44,235 --> 00:07:48,515 I think that, uh, that is the overriding desire 139 00:07:48,515 --> 00:07:51,715 to be a part of children's lives, 140 00:07:52,335 --> 00:07:53,515 not just here in the Valley, 141 00:07:53,655 --> 00:07:56,555 but also, uh, in the country of Armenia. 142 00:07:56,615 --> 00:07:59,635 As I've described, the relationship between 143 00:08:00,335 --> 00:08:01,435 Valley Children's 144 00:08:01,815 --> 00:08:06,635 and the Armenian community here is of critical importance 145 00:08:07,255 --> 00:08:09,955 to us is very, very close. 146 00:08:10,535 --> 00:08:13,615 And, uh, we really feel privileged 147 00:08:13,615 --> 00:08:17,655 and honored to be able to now export our knowledge, uh, 148 00:08:17,755 --> 00:08:20,735 to Armenia and our care, uh, with our partner, 149 00:08:20,915 --> 00:08:24,815 and also to welcome, uh, the various clinicians 150 00:08:24,915 --> 00:08:29,095 and physicians here to Valley Children's to see 151 00:08:29,195 --> 00:08:30,255 how we provide care, 152 00:08:30,835 --> 00:08:35,015 and in particular, how we address quality improvement, 153 00:08:35,755 --> 00:08:39,535 uh, and ensure that the standard of care, uh, 154 00:08:39,675 --> 00:08:41,775 for kids is at the highest level. 155 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:44,295 And we've already done some great work 156 00:08:44,575 --> 00:08:45,815 together in that regard. 157 00:08:46,075 --> 00:08:47,375 Um, and, 158 00:08:47,635 --> 00:08:50,135 and I'm very excited about what the future will hold, 159 00:08:50,235 --> 00:08:54,605 but this is really all about patient care, Chris, 160 00:08:55,105 --> 00:08:59,565 and specifically how do we improve the lives of kids 161 00:09:00,625 --> 00:09:04,845 no different from our focus in here, uh, in California with 162 00:09:04,985 --> 00:09:08,365 how do we improve the, the lives of kids that live here. 163 00:09:08,545 --> 00:09:13,525 So in that way, that is the overriding objective 164 00:09:13,525 --> 00:09:14,525 of the relationship. 165 00:09:17,065 --> 00:09:19,485 - So when team members from Wigmore come 166 00:09:20,025 --> 00:09:24,045 to Valley Children's and they're involved in your hospital 167 00:09:24,145 --> 00:09:25,925 and everything that goes on there, 168 00:09:26,965 --> 00:09:29,265 can you take us a little bit through what they're seeing 169 00:09:29,325 --> 00:09:30,825 and how they are going to take 170 00:09:30,825 --> 00:09:32,465 that knowledge back to Armenia? 171 00:09:33,595 --> 00:09:38,195 - I, I'd be happy to. I think it's a wide range of, uh, 172 00:09:38,265 --> 00:09:40,275 experiences that they are 173 00:09:41,225 --> 00:09:45,125 having when they are shadowing, if you will, or observing. 174 00:09:45,705 --> 00:09:50,365 Uh, our clinicians, the initial rotation was 175 00:09:50,825 --> 00:09:54,765 of the pediatric doctors from Armenia 176 00:09:54,785 --> 00:09:59,445 and Wigmore observing in our er, which is one 177 00:09:59,445 --> 00:10:02,365 of the busiest ERs, uh, in the country. 178 00:10:02,545 --> 00:10:04,485 And it's not just for pediatrics, 179 00:10:05,485 --> 00:10:07,605 although all we do in that ER is pediatrics. 180 00:10:08,305 --> 00:10:12,885 So it was a very intense experience for them 181 00:10:13,025 --> 00:10:15,245 to see the amount of care that was 182 00:10:15,485 --> 00:10:19,085 provided, as well as the variability of conditions 183 00:10:19,115 --> 00:10:21,985 that were coming in, which, uh, 184 00:10:22,775 --> 00:10:27,185 pediatric subspecialists were working in consultation 185 00:10:27,185 --> 00:10:29,505 with the peds ER physicians. 186 00:10:30,335 --> 00:10:34,825 They also were able to see a number of, uh, 187 00:10:35,455 --> 00:10:40,425 pediatric trauma activations as we are a trauma center here, 188 00:10:41,365 --> 00:10:45,905 and they got to observe, uh, those trauma cases firsthand 189 00:10:46,785 --> 00:10:50,005 and how we provided, uh, care. 190 00:10:50,945 --> 00:10:52,005 And importantly then 191 00:10:52,625 --> 00:10:55,325 how we critique the care that we provide. 192 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:58,685 How do we learn from, um, both 193 00:10:59,865 --> 00:11:01,925 the team members that are involved? 194 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:04,405 Do we need to change processes? 195 00:11:04,665 --> 00:11:06,725 How do we go about having those discussions? 196 00:11:07,585 --> 00:11:09,205 And then how do we follow up? 197 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:11,805 What systems might we change and how do we do that? 198 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:14,365 And I'll give you this one small example 199 00:11:14,995 --> 00:11:17,325 that every single member of that team mentioned 200 00:11:17,325 --> 00:11:21,325 to me independently, including the CEO of, um, 201 00:11:22,125 --> 00:11:25,885 Wigmore in all of our patient care 202 00:11:26,405 --> 00:11:30,045 environments, uh, in the inpatient operations here 203 00:11:30,745 --> 00:11:32,525 in including the er, 204 00:11:34,055 --> 00:11:37,925 our quality scorecard is posted publicly 205 00:11:39,305 --> 00:11:41,845 and it says what we're doing well, 206 00:11:42,105 --> 00:11:46,325 and it says where we are not hitting our own internally 207 00:11:47,225 --> 00:11:51,285 set goals, which are always in excess of 208 00:11:51,285 --> 00:11:53,005 what the regulatory goal would be. 209 00:11:53,875 --> 00:11:58,415 So it is very, very transparent, uh, not just for our team, 210 00:11:58,475 --> 00:12:01,815 but for family members, uh, of patients that come. 211 00:12:02,165 --> 00:12:03,735 Anybody can see this, it's public. 212 00:12:04,685 --> 00:12:07,495 That was something that every one of our guests 213 00:12:07,875 --> 00:12:12,055 and colleagues from Wigmore pointed out as 214 00:12:12,625 --> 00:12:16,335 incredibly powerful, and they were going to go home 215 00:12:16,755 --> 00:12:21,135 and immediately implement the same at their organization. 216 00:12:21,955 --> 00:12:25,055 And the reason Chris, I think that is so important is 217 00:12:25,055 --> 00:12:26,655 that goes to a culture of safety. 218 00:12:27,195 --> 00:12:29,415 It goes to a cultural mindset 219 00:12:29,795 --> 00:12:32,375 of continued process improvement. 220 00:12:33,075 --> 00:12:37,055 And I think more than anything else, it recognizes 221 00:12:37,205 --> 00:12:38,535 that children are the future 222 00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:42,975 and our best has always, always 223 00:12:44,635 --> 00:12:45,985 needs to be improving. 224 00:12:47,245 --> 00:12:49,785 And we have got to ensure 225 00:12:50,655 --> 00:12:54,665 that we think about every child that is coming to us 226 00:12:54,685 --> 00:12:58,095 for care, uh, as being a bright spot in our future 227 00:12:59,095 --> 00:13:00,595 and protecting that future. 228 00:13:00,855 --> 00:13:05,395 So it, it reinforces the commitment to always doing better, 229 00:13:06,055 --> 00:13:07,115 always improving, 230 00:13:07,895 --> 00:13:12,555 and every member of the team knowing where we're excelling 231 00:13:12,615 --> 00:13:14,195 and where we're fa falling short. 232 00:13:14,415 --> 00:13:15,915 And, and that 233 00:13:17,125 --> 00:13:19,835 underlying message becomes very motivational 234 00:13:20,535 --> 00:13:22,075 and as I said, becomes a part of the culture. 235 00:13:22,255 --> 00:13:26,035 So, um, I have not seen their, um, 236 00:13:26,665 --> 00:13:29,315 they're gonna send me, um, um, photos 237 00:13:29,615 --> 00:13:32,195 of their own posters that they put up. 238 00:13:33,055 --> 00:13:34,675 Uh, I have not seen those yet, 239 00:13:34,675 --> 00:13:36,195 but I'm really looking forward to it. 240 00:13:36,335 --> 00:13:38,715 So those are, those are the things 241 00:13:38,785 --> 00:13:41,595 that they are experiencing when they join us is 242 00:13:42,135 --> 00:13:44,155 the direct patient care experiences 243 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:46,475 and everything that that entails, 244 00:13:46,535 --> 00:13:50,275 but then also they're seeing how we do process improvement, 245 00:13:50,295 --> 00:13:53,515 how we communicate to each other, how we are committed 246 00:13:53,515 --> 00:13:56,835 to always being better, that we've got to do better, uh, 247 00:13:56,835 --> 00:14:00,815 because this is a future that we are entrusted with. 248 00:14:01,565 --> 00:14:05,825 And I think those things really, uh, resonated 249 00:14:05,935 --> 00:14:08,545 with our colleagues at at wigs more. 250 00:14:08,565 --> 00:14:10,345 And, and so they see all things 251 00:14:10,345 --> 00:14:11,505 great and small when they're here. 252 00:14:13,155 --> 00:14:15,345 - Thank you for that, Todd. That all seems like a very 253 00:14:15,385 --> 00:14:17,065 heartwarming and worthwhile 254 00:14:17,665 --> 00:14:18,785 endeavor that you guys have going. 255 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:21,745 I mean, if you don't mind projecting just a little bit, 256 00:14:22,705 --> 00:14:25,225 I know this relationship has been going on for a while, 257 00:14:25,725 --> 00:14:28,305 but as you see it moving forward, you know, five, 258 00:14:28,405 --> 00:14:30,065 10 years from now, what do you hope 259 00:14:30,065 --> 00:14:32,185 that this partnership will be and bring? 260 00:14:33,555 --> 00:14:34,895 - That's a great question, Chris. 261 00:14:35,115 --> 00:14:38,815 And I think that there is so much that has already occurred 262 00:14:39,035 --> 00:14:43,215 for Valley Children's from, uh, this relationship. 263 00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:48,585 Uh, notably, uh, our team is absolutely thrilled 264 00:14:49,825 --> 00:14:53,245 to be in a position to share with colleagues 265 00:14:54,025 --> 00:14:55,045 how we do things here. 266 00:14:55,745 --> 00:15:00,005 Uh, I can tell you that I saw a lot of smiling faces, 267 00:15:01,905 --> 00:15:05,365 uh, between colleagues as our guests were here. 268 00:15:06,075 --> 00:15:08,845 They are very ex our team is very, very excited 269 00:15:08,845 --> 00:15:12,605 to have the opportunity to travel to Armenia 270 00:15:12,905 --> 00:15:17,125 and do direct patient care with our colleagues in Armenia 271 00:15:17,225 --> 00:15:18,925 for certain conditions. 272 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:22,445 And we are, uh, working now at 273 00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:27,525 determining which patient populations should we work on, uh, 274 00:15:28,085 --> 00:15:32,765 together, uh, when we send that medical mission, uh, 275 00:15:32,865 --> 00:15:34,285 to Armenia, if you will. 276 00:15:34,455 --> 00:15:36,165 Maybe that's the wrong terminology, 277 00:15:36,305 --> 00:15:40,445 but when we send, um, members of our team to Armenia 278 00:15:40,445 --> 00:15:43,725 to work, uh, shoulder to shoulder, side by side 279 00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:48,005 with our colleagues at Wigs more, I think that there's a, 280 00:15:48,445 --> 00:15:50,525 a great sense of pride, uh, 281 00:15:50,525 --> 00:15:54,745 within the Valley Children's team, uh, to know 282 00:15:54,745 --> 00:15:59,115 that they're helping colleagues a half a world away, 283 00:16:00,165 --> 00:16:05,145 uh, that may not, uh, have had the opportunity 284 00:16:05,805 --> 00:16:08,025 to receive the training that our team has, 285 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:11,345 whether it's at Valley Children's or academically. 286 00:16:12,345 --> 00:16:15,145 I think it's also, uh, for our team, 287 00:16:16,255 --> 00:16:20,385 very illuminating that not every organization may have 288 00:16:21,045 --> 00:16:22,545 the same tools that we have, 289 00:16:23,665 --> 00:16:27,705 although I have seen some of the, uh, investments 290 00:16:27,705 --> 00:16:29,145 that have been made at Wigmore 291 00:16:29,885 --> 00:16:32,025 and they have the same gear that we do. 292 00:16:32,365 --> 00:16:36,225 So that is, uh, a fantastic thing to see. 293 00:16:36,485 --> 00:16:40,825 And our team is really, really, I think, uplifted 294 00:16:40,845 --> 00:16:44,745 by the notion that, uh, we are going to be able to 295 00:16:45,295 --> 00:16:49,305 help the only children's hospital for an entire country, 296 00:16:50,305 --> 00:16:53,125 uh, take care of kids the way that we would, 297 00:16:53,465 --> 00:16:55,485 but maybe even better, right? 298 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:58,405 Because we, we of course learn from our colleagues 299 00:16:59,065 --> 00:17:00,925 in our Armenia at wigs more as well. 300 00:17:01,585 --> 00:17:03,445 To your, the part of your question about 301 00:17:03,445 --> 00:17:07,325 where do I see this going in, in four to five years, uh, 302 00:17:07,705 --> 00:17:10,365 we believe that we will be in a position 303 00:17:10,505 --> 00:17:14,405 to offer an international rotation in our, uh, 304 00:17:14,405 --> 00:17:17,805 pediatric residency program, uh, with Wigmore. 305 00:17:17,865 --> 00:17:21,205 We have already had initial conversations about that. 306 00:17:21,865 --> 00:17:23,805 Uh, this is something that's very attractive 307 00:17:24,585 --> 00:17:28,165 to young people thinking about, uh, advancing 308 00:17:28,735 --> 00:17:30,085 their career in medicine 309 00:17:30,625 --> 00:17:34,165 and having an international experience is important 310 00:17:34,265 --> 00:17:36,965 to a number of those, uh, 311 00:17:37,175 --> 00:17:40,605 young people advancing their medical careers, 312 00:17:40,605 --> 00:17:41,965 especially in pediatrics. 313 00:17:42,425 --> 00:17:45,725 So that is, uh, something that we are very excited about 314 00:17:46,425 --> 00:17:49,485 and think will be bring tremendous value both 315 00:17:49,485 --> 00:17:53,725 to Valley Children's as well as to the team at, uh, Wigmore. 316 00:17:54,605 --> 00:17:57,805 I think ultimately we foresee a future 317 00:17:57,975 --> 00:18:01,725 where Valley Children's and Wigmore Women's 318 00:18:01,725 --> 00:18:03,645 and Children's Hospital are sister hospitals, 319 00:18:04,045 --> 00:18:08,685 a half a world away with a lot of, uh, integration between, 320 00:18:09,145 --> 00:18:13,365 uh, clinical education, um, technology utilization, 321 00:18:13,365 --> 00:18:17,285 pharmaceutical utilization, uh, residency training. 322 00:18:17,845 --> 00:18:20,365 I think training the future physicians 323 00:18:21,035 --> 00:18:24,525 that may practice here in the United States, uh, 324 00:18:24,525 --> 00:18:27,245 in the central part of California, equally 325 00:18:27,355 --> 00:18:30,765 with ERA Van Armenia is really, really important. 326 00:18:31,745 --> 00:18:34,885 And, uh, that is something that will enhance the future 327 00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:39,045 of both organizations, uh, in a way that's really difficult 328 00:18:39,145 --> 00:18:40,205 to quantify, 329 00:18:41,025 --> 00:18:44,685 but one that both organizations are very excited about. 330 00:18:46,405 --> 00:18:48,055 - Todd, thank you so much today 331 00:18:48,155 --> 00:18:50,615 for sharing this inspiring story of this partnership. 332 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:52,815 We obviously wish a continued success, 333 00:18:52,955 --> 00:18:54,575 and thank you again for joining us today. 334 00:18:55,195 --> 00:18:57,695 - My pleasure. Chris, always thank you for having me. 335 00:18:59,125 --> 00:19:01,535 - It's so important for leaders at the top of organizations 336 00:19:01,535 --> 00:19:04,335 to keep learning, stay sharp, grow their networks 337 00:19:04,635 --> 00:19:07,175 to help our audience better do this in a more simplified, 338 00:19:07,175 --> 00:19:08,855 personalized, and meaningful way. 339 00:19:09,415 --> 00:19:11,895 Becker's Healthcare has launched my bhc, 340 00:19:12,365 --> 00:19:14,375 it's your trusted Becker's healthcare experience 341 00:19:14,375 --> 00:19:16,535 and more with content, connections, events 342 00:19:16,595 --> 00:19:17,615 and learning opportunities. 343 00:19:18,205 --> 00:19:19,335 Join the community free 344 00:19:19,335 --> 00:19:24,255 of charge@www.my dot becker's hospital review.com 345 00:19:24,355 --> 00:19:25,215 and we'll see you there.