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For all of you who are sitting out

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there wondering about more food, last podcast, we

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talked about foods around the globe. You remember

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that, Dean?

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No. He's got nothing.

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He's just staring at me.

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And, why am I surprised by this? I

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will tell you that we talked about food

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around the globe. We're gonna be talking more

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about food around the globe today. Do I

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eat it? Do I not eat it? Do

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I do I pass it around? I mean,

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it, not touch it? And what do I

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touch it with? Yeah. Yeah. And we've also

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got a listener. And,

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they wrote to us and and had a

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question, which is really kind of intriguing and

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interesting because it leads us into an area

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that a lot of people, especially people in

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the US, but I think in a lot

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of parts of the world, they don't really

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know or understand very well. Oh, let's hear

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it. Well, we'll we'll we'll get to it.

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Tell me gratification

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again. And,

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and and then we've got, we've got some

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other stuff. Torin, our producer's here. And and

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hi, Torin. Hello. And, what else are we

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talking about today? Some etiquette around eating eating

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different foods. Are you gonna talk about more

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food god. Around the world, and then how

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do you Is that your idea, Dean? Go

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ahead, eat them. I had nothing to do

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with it. Okay. Great.

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So etiquette also, Alright. And there's something with

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exploding. I I'm not gonna Are you I'm

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I'm alright. Okay. Yeah. Oh, we we're gonna

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frightened. When we talk about this stuff, we

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have to explode some myths. Well, okay then.

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Well, in that case, guess what? Started. Guess

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what?

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Oops.

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Your culture's showing.

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And I'm Tom Peterson, and I'm, here with

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my co host, Dean Foster,

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who, as I read on a bathroom wall

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just last week, is an expert in cultures

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around the world.

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So, Dean, what I was

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dying to ask you about Dying to ask

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you? Well, that may be extreme, but basically,

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yeah. That what I wanna ask you about

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was

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fish.

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I I just wanna know if there's a

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cultural aspect

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that you can can come up with here

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for fish.

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Didn't we once talk about

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the ceremony of the head of the fish

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in China? Uh-huh. Right? We did. You know,

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where the you're the honored guest receives the

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head of the fish because Yep. It's supposed

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to be the most tasty part of the

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fish. The cheeks, actually, the area right right

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in front of the gills. Now

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do we really buy that, or is that

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look. If I had if you had I

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don't buy it at all. I either buy

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the fish or the fish. Because somebody offers

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When I go in a store, I'm talking

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buying I see. I see.

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I'm not talking about the actual

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fish. I'm talking about the concept.

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a sense of, okay,

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the cheek of the fish.

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And and and, by the way,

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I'm going to be lined up with the

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people who are going

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wait.

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Fish have cheeks?

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But if if we go to the fish

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cheek and we're eating that cheek fish. No.

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Wait. Hold on. Fish cheek. Fish cheek.

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if if we're doing that,

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is it because we it's it's really that

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good, like, we're being sold, or is it

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and this will encourage people

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by everyone agreeing that these parts of the

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are are better tasting? Well, the scarcity issue,

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yeah, makes it very ceremonial, makes it very

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special. So So we we make

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a a concept that is adjusted and adapted

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that bigger more and more people will do

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it so that you will you will eat

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this. Yeah. And you will actually use up

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the the the stuff they have. The scarcer

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it is, the more special it is. Even

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if it's, I mean see,

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not as dumb as he looks.

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Old Fishcheeks Foster.

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Fishcheeks

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Foster. That's not easy to say. Foster. Now

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how did you know that was what they

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called me in junior high? Is it? Yeah.

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And how much do I know I don't

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wanna know why?

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Well But I'm thinking, like, the different kinds

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of foods that are out there, you know,

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whether they're ceremonial or whether they're just day

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to day foods, they they all are subject

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to these kinds of rules, the cultural rules

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and the economic rules

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and which determines why or why we eat

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them or not. There's also a use of

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fish in ways that isn't about eating it,

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That that you can, like What else do

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you do with a fish that other than

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eat it? I, I've well, you can have

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a nice conversation with the fish. And you'll

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always be right. Decorative. How many people have

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fish tanks?

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And Oh. And you have the feng shui

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that we've spoken about. That's right. Where you

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have that placed in certain positions and places.

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a good luck aspect of I may be

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oversimplifying it, but

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that kind of thing that goes along with

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it. And then there's the I mean, there's

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the Moby Dick

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idea of of the kind of massive fish

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and power fish, jaws.

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That that concept, I mean, I does is

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that cultural? I mean, is there is there

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an aspect to that that says well, the

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whole the fish, I think, plays a powerful

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role in a lot of,

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Genesis myths. Jonah and the whale. Yes. Jonah

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and the whale and and and these great

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beasts that are under the water and as

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part of classical Greece classical Greek story. Sure.

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Sure. The heroes and Homer's Odyssey and

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the encounters with, you know, the mermaids and

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the strange sea creatures that are that are

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lurking out there. I think it speaks to,

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you know, the unknown and the things that

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we 20,000 leagues under the sea. Sure. It's

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been Yep. Part of our literature. Yeah. Yeah.

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So eat it. You know? If it's on

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your plate, eat it. Because Eat that cheek.

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Right. Because this creature cheek. You know, now

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it's kind of like once you eat it,

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then you know it. You've conquered it. And

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you know what?

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Maybe there is also, like, eating the you

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about, like, eating the you get the goat's

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eye or some other tongue of something and

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things like that. Well, and we were saying,

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of the animal that you're given Yeah. That's

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been sacrificed in your honor, it's a way

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of acknowledging a certain aspect of you and

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your personality.

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So if you're given the eye, that means

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you're very wise. Yeah. They see you as

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very wise. Yeah. If you're given the tongue,

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that means you talk a lot

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in a good way, I guess. Oh, really?

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took it that way. I'm sure. What parts

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of the body

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I was given. I don't want no. No.

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I'm not going to imagine that. I'm I'm

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gonna have incredible control over myself and not

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imagine that. I was, just

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Come From Away, which is about

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north Newfoundland.

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if you visit Newfoundland, one of the ceremonies

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that gets you into the community

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says you have to kiss a cod.

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Seriously? You have to kiss a cod. Okay.

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Yeah. A live cod. Okay. Right?

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It sounds like it sounds like some sort

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of weird dating Presuming that a cod has

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that did not have lips. Did you ever

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kiss them?

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I think that's personal between me and the

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Maybe. That's correct. But, you know, to this

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to this idea of doing

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challenging, difficult things Yes. Like, in some of

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the some tribes in East Africa Yeah.

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of a rite of passage Yep. Coming of

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age. Coming of age. Yeah.

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cut the vein of a of a cow.

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and very important aspects of

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daily social life there. The more cows someone

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owns, the wealthier they are, the higher the

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status, etcetera.

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cow and you collect some of the blood,

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and then you drink it. Yeah.

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That's a tough one. Mhmm. But how different

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is that really from black pudding?

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Well, that would assume I'm actually going to

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eat black pudding. So Right. And which is

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which is not you know, we don't have

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to go to Africa to see this. I

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mean, this is a this is a fairly

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in, you know, in England and Scotland. Right?

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Pudding, which for the listeners, is basically congealed

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blood, you know, and prepared in a sort

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of a taste

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the difference is it's congealed.

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And cooked. As opposed to being warm and

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and runny. Right. Is anyone still listening to

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haggis. I've had it. I've been in, you

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know, I've been part of a ceremony,

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and I know people like it. And, you

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know Well Mhmm. Torin, you've had haggis. I

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have. It's delicious. Okay. And and do you

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remember what was in it? Did you know

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what was in it when you ate it?

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Yeah. Stomach stomach

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beef stuff. It was it was good. It

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was tasty, whatever it really was. Okay. It's

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spicy up and and it's and it's inside

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the stomach, right, of the Right. Mhmm. They

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give it a in the stomach lining. Yep.

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And you go in there to Which is

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kind of like what It was good. I

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remember growing up, part of the part of

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the the the food from Eastern Europe that

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we had, again, a ceremonial food Right. Was

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kishka, which was stuffed intestine. Yeah. Oh, man.

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Yeah. Yeah. Now what's surprising now, it it

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it that's the whole concept of now now

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here's a very basic cultural aspect that that

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even I can talk to.

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It's it's the old don't judge a book

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by its cover type of thing. Because if

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you're saying if Torrid is saying that there

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is there is this thing, which I'm imagining

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doesn't look all that great,

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but when you eat it, you like the

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taste of it.

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Now if that's true, then your first reaction,

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you would assume. Also, you know where it

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came from. Your first reaction is, seriously?

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I'm supposed to eat this?

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And yet you eat it and then go,

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oh, this tastes good. If you can do

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that, but people can't necessarily get by what

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they see. Or don't ask, you know, and

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that raises a question that I'm often asked,

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which is, should I ask about this food

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that's being presented to me? Sure. You know,

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do do I do I want to inquire?

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Yeah. And, you know, I think the safe

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thing is if you're ready to hear things

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that you don't really wanna hear. Wanna hear,

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then don't inquire. And if you're enjoying the

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taste, then don't ask. You know? But but

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if you do wanna know, get ready for

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any possibility

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because that meat could be of any kind

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of animal. Sure. You know? And but, you

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know, raises the issue that, you know, non

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meat eaters. Right? They'll they'll feel similarly

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turned off by any kind of meat that's

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presented. And so it's it's all relative, isn't

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it? And it's all basically what we're used

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to. What you're mentioning, it sounds like many

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of my relatives. That's for sure.

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Okay. That just

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completely killed everything.

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Wait a minute. Your That was the haggis

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of jokes. Right? Cannibalistic.

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Are you talking about your relative? Said it's

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all relative, and I went for the cheap

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relative joke.

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And then you decided to throw me under

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the box. I was so mad eating meat.

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So

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it sounded like you were saying Well, look.

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You're relatives. Own. Okay. And I guess if

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it's relative, it is your own.

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So it's Are they eating each other? Are

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they is it but even cannibalism Where are

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you going with this? I'm really frightened. In

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Papua New Guinea. And

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And in other

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in other places, not just Papua New Guinea.

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Cannibalism is part of in certain tribes. Not

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not all right. Is it that it can

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be in much of Polynesia, actually, traditionally.

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But but it's a tradition. But it's about

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taking in the qualities

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of the individual that you're eating Uh-huh.

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Or one aspect of So you're saying it's

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being looked at. It is almost a an

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honor to do that. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Interesting.

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But like those hooded, you know, the hoods

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you have to wear in southern France when

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you eat that particular bird that they serve

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you.

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This isn't gonna go to a dark place

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here, is it? Oh, yes. It's very dark

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on the hood. Under the hood. Yeah. Yeah.

354
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Yeah. Okay.

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The whole idea is to absorb the aroma

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of the preparation of this this dish Yes.

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That's made with this very particular kind of

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bird. Yes. Lives in that area. It's a

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very small, delicate bird, and it's a delicacy.

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Yes. Yes. Yes. Right. And then

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and then you take the hood off and

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you and you eat it, but you first,

363
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you absorb the the whole

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aroma

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using the sense of smell, which is very

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powerful. You know? So

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I don't

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as a cultural In many of the Andean

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cultures, there's the staple food is basically their

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version of a guinea pig. It's called Cui

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in Ecuador. I've heard that. Yeah. Okay.

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Which is you know, I I think a

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lot of US Americans have grown up with

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hamsters as pets Right. Would find that objectionable.

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I'm sure they would. Well, there's also the

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concept of eating dogs

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Yes. Which is done in some in some

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cultures. Yes. Right. Yes. And we've talked about

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the fact that It's not as is not

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as not that common, and it's not as

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ubiquitous as as the urban legend of it

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is. But it does. Yes. It's part of

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it. It does. It is part of the

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diet. But also there is as we've as

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we've spoken of before, there's also places that

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domesticated animals aren't the same. It's not like

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the dog and cat in the United States

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that is that is kept indoors and loved

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like another member of the family.

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That's in

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in in many countries, that's just not taking

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place. It doesn't happen that way. You know,

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it's what what I'm thinking right now is

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is that all this eating talk has really

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made me hungry.

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So,

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so we're gonna take a little break here.

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But when we come back

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when we come back, I want to, I

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I got a question for you about something

401
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that's coming up that I think kinda fits

402
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into all of

403
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this. And I think it's a Torrence, it's

404
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a question from, one of our listeners. Right?

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Yes. It is. Okay. Well, then we'll we'll

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do that after we come back. But for

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right now,

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we're gonna get something to eat and take

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a little break. We'll be right

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Got any questions for us? Well, if you

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do, there's a couple ways to get hold

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of us. First of all, on email, our

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email address is oops culture show at gmail.com.

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And our handle on Twitter is

415
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So talk to us.

417
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Alright. So we're back, and we are talking

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about foods, and and we've got something coming

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at the time that we're recording this particular

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podcast.

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Coming up is the time of Ramadan,

422
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and that's one of the times that, like,

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in many, many parts of the world, in

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different different ways,

425
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there is a a time of fasting. Oh,

426
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so we're talking about not eating. Right. And

427
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that's where we're going with this. So, Toren,

428
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there was a question.

429
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I'm turning to you because I'm assuming you

430
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have the question.

431
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I do. Yeah.

432
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So the question is that,

433
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somebody's traveling to, the the person who who

434
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who gave us the question.

435
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They're gonna be traveling to the Middle East

436
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during Ramadan,

437
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and they're gonna be doing,

438
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some business with folks there and, you know,

439
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presumably,

440
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during kind of, you know, normal for them,

441
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for that person, kinda lunchtime.

442
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And so the question was essentially they're wondering,

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you know, because their their hosts there are

444
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are not going to be eating. They're gonna

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be fasting, not gonna be eating, not gonna

446
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be drinking water for Ramadan.

447
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They're wondering what they should do. Should is

448
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it okay if they

449
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eat something during their, you know, normal lunchtime?

450
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Is it okay for them to drink water?

451
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They mentioned I remember in the question, they

452
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were saying, I really need to drink my

453
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water. I don't wanna be dehydrated. So their

454
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question is essentially, what do what do I

455
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do in that circumstance? Yeah. That's a that's

456
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a good question. But you know what? I

457
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have a question first about this person.

458
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What are you doing going to do business

459
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during Ramadan in the Middle East? Yeah. I

460
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don't think they I think it was just

461
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planned for them. I don't think they had

462
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control or Well, whoever was whoever was scheduling

463
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things needs to get a little bit culturally

464
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tuned up. Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna jump

465
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in and say that people don't necessarily even

466
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if they are aware of Ramadan, don't necessarily

467
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know that Ramadan

468
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isn't the same every year too, but it

469
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changes. Right. You have to follow the Muslim

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calendar because it does change. That's the lunar

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calendar, and so, therefore, it's gonna come up

472
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on the on the solar calendar, our calendar,

473
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at a different time every year. But it's

474
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not a good time to be doing business

475
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in

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a in a in a Muslim country, particularly

477
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an observant Muslim country,

478
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such as many are in the in the

479
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Middle East.

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People are just not tuned into

481
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those

482
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colleagues who are observant tuned into

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business because you're supposed to be

484
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self reflective. This is a time of spirituality.

485
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This is the time from from sun up

486
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to sun down where you're thinking about your

487
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role in with God and the cosmos and

488
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and and other people. You're not tuned in.

489
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And, also, it's a blood sugar thing. You're

490
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fasting from sun up to sundown.

491
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And so

492
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if you're trying to do business with people

493
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who are getting a little low on their

494
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blood sugar,

495
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it's just not pleasant. You know? People wanna

496
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go home and break the fast. That's what

497
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they're they wanna talk to you about business.

498
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Okay. Having said that,

499
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this person is obviously going nevertheless,

500
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And they are gonna be there during the

501
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day

502
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while their colleagues are probably going to be

503
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fasting. Alright. So the the the rule is

504
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you certainly, as a nonobservant

505
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or non Muslim, do not have to fast.

506
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You can go back to your international hotel

507
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and have lunch and

508
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and and dinner and breakfast.

509
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But if you're with people who are observing

510
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Ramadan,

511
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you cannot

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drink

513
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and eat in front of them. You just

514
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can't. It's not it's not the right thing

515
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to do. It's disrespectful.

516
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Now I I don't know what country they're

517
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going to. So there are many countries there,

518
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in that region that are very observant. Right?

519
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I'm thinking

520
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of Saudi Arabia. But then there are many

521
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that are very secular, and they know that

522
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non Muslims

523
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might not be observing. So if you I

524
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would take my cue from them. If they

525
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they invite you in, they sit you down

526
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and put a glass of water in front

527
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of you and they don't have a glass

528
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of water in front of them.

529
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They're trying to be kind to you.

530
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I would probably not sip it in front

531
00:19:27,829 --> 00:19:29,589
of them. Mhmm. But if you needed to,

532
00:19:29,589 --> 00:19:31,429
there it is. And and they're making a

533
00:19:31,429 --> 00:19:34,230
very nice and generous gesture by offering it

534
00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:35,910
to you. I mean, maybe they'll even wanna

535
00:19:35,910 --> 00:19:37,669
meet you at a restaurant. I I I

536
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:40,390
can't predict that. But, again, it depends on

537
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:40,970
the country.

538
00:19:42,105 --> 00:19:44,505
But I would say, generally, stay away from

539
00:19:44,505 --> 00:19:46,744
eating and drinking in front of anyone who's

540
00:19:46,744 --> 00:19:49,705
observing Ramadan. It's So probably this this listener

541
00:19:49,705 --> 00:19:51,005
should, make

542
00:19:51,545 --> 00:19:54,250
in their mind should be ready to to

543
00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:56,569
behave in that fashion. That's right. Because after

544
00:19:56,569 --> 00:19:59,069
sundown, though, there is a a celebratory,

545
00:20:00,250 --> 00:20:02,650
meal. Everybody wants to go home as quickly

546
00:20:02,650 --> 00:20:05,130
as possible to meet their family and friends

547
00:20:05,130 --> 00:20:07,684
to break the fast. Right. So,

548
00:20:08,144 --> 00:20:10,244
yes. And in fact, everyone oftentimes

549
00:20:11,264 --> 00:20:12,804
stays up late at night

550
00:20:13,105 --> 00:20:14,884
feasting with friends and family.

551
00:20:15,505 --> 00:20:17,825
I've I've I've had Muslim colleagues, you know,

552
00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,524
admit to me that, Ramadan,

553
00:20:19,825 --> 00:20:22,140
you don't lose weight. You gain weight because

554
00:20:22,140 --> 00:20:24,299
you stay up, you know, all night long

555
00:20:24,299 --> 00:20:26,539
party partying, beat a lot, and then go

556
00:20:26,539 --> 00:20:28,140
to sleep. Yeah. And then go to sleep

557
00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:30,940
and then, wake up before sun up to

558
00:20:30,940 --> 00:20:32,940
have a big breakfast Sure. To get you

559
00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:34,220
through the day. In order to be able

560
00:20:34,220 --> 00:20:35,884
to make it. Right. Yeah. So I don't

561
00:20:35,884 --> 00:20:38,284
know. Maybe they're actually putting on more calories

562
00:20:38,284 --> 00:20:40,765
than than not. Maybe. Yeah. But it's the

563
00:20:40,765 --> 00:20:43,404
timing of it that's important. Right. So if

564
00:20:43,404 --> 00:20:45,904
you're if you can't be eating or drinking

565
00:20:47,085 --> 00:20:48,304
during the day, then

566
00:20:48,619 --> 00:20:49,660
you gotta do it,

567
00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:51,200
at your hotel.

568
00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:52,880
You can't do it out

569
00:20:53,180 --> 00:20:54,160
with your colleagues.

570
00:20:54,539 --> 00:20:55,359
Right. Okay.

571
00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:57,680
Alright. Good. I think too,

572
00:20:58,059 --> 00:21:00,220
I would imagine anyway that someone who's traveling

573
00:21:00,220 --> 00:21:02,559
there for a relatively brief period of time

574
00:21:03,105 --> 00:21:05,505
could could potentially make the adjustment knowing this

575
00:21:05,505 --> 00:21:07,105
is a for that brief period of time.

576
00:21:07,105 --> 00:21:09,125
But somebody's going for a period of time.

577
00:21:09,904 --> 00:21:11,285
I'm saying that I'm guessing

578
00:21:11,664 --> 00:21:12,644
a couple of weeks

579
00:21:13,345 --> 00:21:15,345
might really have to consider what they're doing

580
00:21:15,345 --> 00:21:16,829
because it's not they're not used to it.

581
00:21:16,909 --> 00:21:19,069
Right. And and Ramadan is typically, you know,

582
00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:21,950
approximately a month long Mhmm. Again, depending on

583
00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:23,250
how the calendar falls.

584
00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:25,309
So that's a long period of time where

585
00:21:25,309 --> 00:21:28,429
people are are are deeply into this very

586
00:21:28,429 --> 00:21:28,929
special

587
00:21:29,444 --> 00:21:31,704
event. Mhmm. I mean, it's a major major,

588
00:21:31,845 --> 00:21:33,684
if not the major holiday in in the

589
00:21:33,684 --> 00:21:35,304
Muslim calendar. So Sure.

590
00:21:36,085 --> 00:21:37,684
Yeah. Not a good time to be doing

591
00:21:37,684 --> 00:21:39,144
business there, but okay.

592
00:21:40,644 --> 00:21:42,244
Well, it may not be something that they

593
00:21:42,244 --> 00:21:44,779
could put off. So Right. Right. Understandable

594
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,039
in that sense. But,

595
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,279
okay. Good. That's a

596
00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:51,580
and and we remind you too,

597
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960
anything like that or that you may have

598
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,279
a question about, send him on in, and

599
00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:58,380
we will, you know, we'll ask Dean,

600
00:21:58,755 --> 00:22:00,195
and he'll give you something. And if you

601
00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:02,195
trust trust him at all, go ahead and

602
00:22:02,195 --> 00:22:04,695
follow him. Personally, I'd be very wary.

603
00:22:05,394 --> 00:22:07,154
We'll just make you sign a disclaimer. That's

604
00:22:07,154 --> 00:22:07,654
all.

605
00:22:08,755 --> 00:22:10,035
Oh, yes. By the way, we are not

606
00:22:10,035 --> 00:22:12,559
responsible for anything that happens to you. No.

607
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:14,480
I'm certainly not responsible for anything I say.

608
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720
You've never been responsible for anything. That's for

609
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,339
sure. And ever since I've known you,

610
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,960
which is the year 4, wasn't it, I

611
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,140
believe? Yeah. That's in the in the Christian

612
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,019
calendar. Yeah.

613
00:22:25,625 --> 00:22:26,285
So, anyhow,

614
00:22:26,904 --> 00:22:29,305
we've got, there is the phrase. So so

615
00:22:29,305 --> 00:22:31,225
talking about Oh, that's okay. Interrupt. It's not

616
00:22:31,225 --> 00:22:33,545
a problem. Was I interrupting? No. I I

617
00:22:33,545 --> 00:22:35,484
don't mean to. You didn't mean to interrupt.

618
00:22:35,625 --> 00:22:38,585
I haven't heard that before somewhere. No. But

619
00:22:38,585 --> 00:22:40,825
you did me never mind. Go right ahead.

620
00:22:40,825 --> 00:22:41,325
Please

621
00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:42,339
continue.

622
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,380
No. No. Okay. Good. I'll I'll continue.

623
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,779
No. No. What were you going to say?

624
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,320
Was that what you were going to say?

625
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,640
I was gonna say what were you going

626
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,320
to say. Yes. Well, in that case Who's

627
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,920
on her? Right. So so in that case,

628
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,815
here's what I was gonna say. Oh, okay.

629
00:22:55,894 --> 00:22:57,494
I was gonna interrupt you with what I

630
00:22:57,494 --> 00:22:59,174
was going to say. Are you I well

631
00:22:59,254 --> 00:23:01,514
You didn't have to ask. That seemed obvious,

632
00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:02,315
perhaps.

633
00:23:03,014 --> 00:23:04,794
Have you said what you're going to say?

634
00:23:05,414 --> 00:23:06,934
What was I going to say? I don't

635
00:23:06,934 --> 00:23:07,434
know.

636
00:23:07,894 --> 00:23:09,034
I have no idea.

637
00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:11,789
I just returned from a trip to,

638
00:23:12,829 --> 00:23:14,670
to the Balkans. Are you sure where you

639
00:23:14,670 --> 00:23:16,670
know where you went? I always have to

640
00:23:16,670 --> 00:23:17,410
think twice

641
00:23:18,750 --> 00:23:21,070
because there's a lot of trips in there.

642
00:23:21,070 --> 00:23:22,049
Former Yugoslavia,

643
00:23:23,164 --> 00:23:25,984
but broken up now into many independent countries.

644
00:23:26,125 --> 00:23:28,845
And and names that depending again on age

645
00:23:28,845 --> 00:23:31,884
and or interest in history have have been

646
00:23:31,884 --> 00:23:32,704
spoken about

647
00:23:33,325 --> 00:23:35,404
many times. There's a real chance that you've

648
00:23:35,404 --> 00:23:37,089
heard the names of the places. Oh, this

649
00:23:37,089 --> 00:23:39,329
is very important. This is a major cultural

650
00:23:39,329 --> 00:23:41,409
area in the world. It sits on a

651
00:23:41,409 --> 00:23:43,109
major cultural fault line,

652
00:23:43,970 --> 00:23:45,909
which is the cause of tremendous

653
00:23:46,210 --> 00:23:49,205
historical conflict. And and much of what we

654
00:23:49,205 --> 00:23:51,924
live with every day in terms of political

655
00:23:51,924 --> 00:23:52,424
reality

656
00:23:52,805 --> 00:23:55,205
is the result of the kinds of conflicts

657
00:23:55,205 --> 00:23:57,605
that have emerged in in the Balkans. Okay.

658
00:23:57,924 --> 00:23:59,765
It it's important to remember, for example, the

659
00:23:59,765 --> 00:24:01,525
capital of Bosnia, and Bosnia is one of

660
00:24:01,525 --> 00:24:03,625
these countries in that region, is Sarajevo.

661
00:24:04,005 --> 00:24:06,910
Yes. And Sarajevo, the 20th century began in

662
00:24:06,910 --> 00:24:08,609
Sarajevo. Mhmm. Right. But the

663
00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:10,910
in a sense, the beginning of World War

664
00:24:10,910 --> 00:24:12,450
1 and the 1, the assassination

665
00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:13,809
of the archduke,

666
00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:16,210
which was just, of course, a a trigger.

667
00:24:16,845 --> 00:24:19,345
There were many factors, but factors. Right? Yeah.

668
00:24:19,884 --> 00:24:22,525
Began and it ended there in the 19

669
00:24:22,525 --> 00:24:25,345
nineties with the with the wars, the Yugoslav

670
00:24:25,404 --> 00:24:25,904
wars

671
00:24:27,005 --> 00:24:29,825
most recently. Right. And the terrible, terrible conflict

672
00:24:29,964 --> 00:24:30,704
in Sarajevo.

673
00:24:31,085 --> 00:24:31,585
Right.

674
00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:34,690
So this is a major area

675
00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:37,089
that that doesn't get much, play in

676
00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:39,409
in the US, but nevertheless,

677
00:24:39,789 --> 00:24:41,630
we still have troops on the ground there.

678
00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:44,109
Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure people don't re other

679
00:24:44,109 --> 00:24:45,789
than people who have been in the armed

680
00:24:45,789 --> 00:24:47,684
services who'd be aware of that, but otherwise.

681
00:24:47,765 --> 00:24:49,684
So I'm traveling. We don't know that. The

682
00:24:49,684 --> 00:24:52,725
beautiful, beautiful country of Bosnia, Herzegovina. Mhmm. And

683
00:24:52,725 --> 00:24:54,025
it is physically

684
00:24:54,485 --> 00:24:55,465
just spectacular.

685
00:24:56,325 --> 00:24:57,865
Big mountains and

686
00:24:58,245 --> 00:25:01,089
and clean running rivers. It's just a beautiful

687
00:25:01,089 --> 00:25:01,589
place.

688
00:25:02,049 --> 00:25:04,289
And I learned that one of the foods

689
00:25:04,289 --> 00:25:07,009
that that people have is typical food is

690
00:25:07,009 --> 00:25:08,069
like these sausages.

691
00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:08,950
Yeah.

692
00:25:10,049 --> 00:25:12,549
A mound of them little finger sized sausages

693
00:25:13,009 --> 00:25:16,045
of meat, of minced meat. And and this

694
00:25:16,045 --> 00:25:17,904
is something that you typically have for lunch

695
00:25:18,285 --> 00:25:20,705
and you wash it down with a liquefied

696
00:25:20,845 --> 00:25:21,345
yogurt.

697
00:25:22,125 --> 00:25:25,085
Really? Yeah. Okay. So I was first of

698
00:25:25,085 --> 00:25:26,225
all, I'm not

699
00:25:26,765 --> 00:25:29,130
a red meat eater. So it was but

700
00:25:29,130 --> 00:25:30,250
I but I was gonna be there, and

701
00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:31,369
I was gonna try it. I was gonna

702
00:25:31,369 --> 00:25:33,769
say, what kind of meat are they? Well,

703
00:25:33,769 --> 00:25:35,789
it's it's not pork because

704
00:25:36,250 --> 00:25:39,210
there's a significant Muslim population in Bosnia. Okay.

705
00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:40,910
So it's it's mainly

706
00:25:42,090 --> 00:25:43,710
beef and and

707
00:25:44,305 --> 00:25:45,445
and chicken and,

708
00:25:47,984 --> 00:25:50,545
lamb, of course. Yeah. That was the main

709
00:25:50,545 --> 00:25:51,365
one, actually.

710
00:25:51,904 --> 00:25:54,085
And and it's spiced, and it's very tasty.

711
00:25:54,224 --> 00:25:56,305
And it's often served with this different kinds

712
00:25:56,305 --> 00:25:56,965
of dressing,

713
00:25:57,424 --> 00:25:59,345
IVAR, which is kind of a pimento kind

714
00:25:59,345 --> 00:26:02,440
of dressing. So that's very tasty. But when

715
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,059
it was served with this liquefied

716
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:05,019
yogurt,

717
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:07,660
I had trouble with that.

718
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:09,960
You had trouble with it because of the

719
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,619
liquefied yogurt? Yeah. Do you think flavor was

720
00:26:13,505 --> 00:26:16,144
very tart for me. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't

721
00:26:16,144 --> 00:26:18,545
used to it. Right. I mean, people were

722
00:26:18,545 --> 00:26:21,184
eating it with gusto all around me, but

723
00:26:21,184 --> 00:26:23,345
I was having difficulty with it. When they're

724
00:26:23,345 --> 00:26:25,679
giving that to you, are are these separate

725
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:28,819
things, or are these already somehow put together?

726
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,819
No. You get a plate full of these

727
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,460
sausage type things. Right. And

728
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:35,759
and then you get Which I'm guessing look

729
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:37,599
like what we would identify as, like, little

730
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,065
wieners. Yeah. But without the casing, it's just

731
00:26:40,144 --> 00:26:43,285
Yeah. Just shaped into into a little

732
00:26:43,664 --> 00:26:45,984
little wiener size thing. Okay. And then you

733
00:26:45,984 --> 00:26:47,424
get a glass of yogurt with it

734
00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:49,825
I gotcha. Okay. To drink. It's a it's

735
00:26:49,825 --> 00:26:51,904
just a regular in a drink form. Mhmm.

736
00:26:51,904 --> 00:26:54,589
Yes. Yeah. Okay. And And you couldn't, do

737
00:26:54,589 --> 00:26:55,329
the drink.

738
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:58,829
But, I mean, is that are we talking

739
00:26:58,829 --> 00:27:00,829
just was there something about it that popped

740
00:27:00,829 --> 00:27:02,109
up? First of all, I don't really even

741
00:27:02,109 --> 00:27:04,509
like milk. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. So Okay. So

742
00:27:04,509 --> 00:27:06,884
you're a freak. So we, we just we

743
00:27:06,884 --> 00:27:08,484
go with that. I stopped drinking milk when

744
00:27:08,484 --> 00:27:10,724
I was 10 years old Okay. Until I

745
00:27:10,724 --> 00:27:12,005
I drank it. See, it was wrong. I'm

746
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:13,684
super freaked. I I drank it as long

747
00:27:13,684 --> 00:27:15,125
as I had to. Okay. As long as

748
00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:16,964
mom said drink it. What did you use

749
00:27:16,964 --> 00:27:19,125
for a mustache on your upper lip? Oh,

750
00:27:19,125 --> 00:27:21,380
no. I didn't have to have it. I

751
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,680
just Oh, is that at 10? Oh, yes.

752
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,600
At 10. Oh, oh. What a man. Supposed

753
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,779
to tell. What a man. Oh, wow.

754
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:33,680
Yeah. Yeah. We're laughing because we can see

755
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,180
him.

756
00:27:35,855 --> 00:27:38,035
You should be laughing because the truth is

757
00:27:38,174 --> 00:27:40,335
I can't grow a beard, really. Uh-huh. I

758
00:27:40,335 --> 00:27:42,494
mean, it doesn't come in full. Uh-huh. I

759
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,414
get little spots. You know? I get a

760
00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:46,335
little spot that that grows well, and then

761
00:27:46,335 --> 00:27:47,855
the rest doesn't. And it looks like I

762
00:27:47,855 --> 00:27:49,859
have the strange shape. Turning into a medical

763
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,099
podcast, and I'm already disgusted.

764
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,799
I'm I'm I'm not gonna be able to

765
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,339
keep food down here in a minute

766
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:57,200
when,

767
00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,759
well, I'm sorry about that. It's it's,

768
00:28:00,424 --> 00:28:02,825
About what? The the mustache or Yeah. About

769
00:28:02,825 --> 00:28:04,924
your inability to to grow bigger. The yogurt.

770
00:28:05,065 --> 00:28:07,384
And because, obviously, it it it reflects on

771
00:28:07,384 --> 00:28:08,044
your manhood.

772
00:28:08,585 --> 00:28:09,144
Yeah. We

773
00:28:11,625 --> 00:28:13,065
but you could bite the head off of

774
00:28:13,065 --> 00:28:16,049
a fish. Oh, absolutely. See? So there you

775
00:28:16,049 --> 00:28:17,730
go. And drink the blood from a cow.

776
00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,490
Well, let's let's go get a cow and

777
00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:20,630
tap it right now.

778
00:28:22,690 --> 00:28:24,450
And how brave was the first person to

779
00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:25,269
eat an oyster?

780
00:28:26,065 --> 00:28:28,065
Yeah. That's a good point. Yes. I mean,

781
00:28:28,065 --> 00:28:29,904
the the that's an old saying, by the

782
00:28:29,904 --> 00:28:31,505
way. I didn't come up with that. Is

783
00:28:31,505 --> 00:28:33,585
that right? True. Well, I grew up on

784
00:28:33,585 --> 00:28:35,285
the shore here in New England,

785
00:28:35,664 --> 00:28:38,965
and I don't ever remember hearing someone say

786
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:40,680
how brave was the first man to eat

787
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,460
an oyster. No. There's a lullaby.

788
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,099
Oh, is there? That all New England children

789
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,660
are

790
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:46,940
are

791
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,359
lullaby too. I don't That has I know

792
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:51,339
one that wasn't.

793
00:28:52,294 --> 00:28:53,674
I'm feeling bad.

794
00:28:54,134 --> 00:28:56,234
I'm sure. Are you sure?

795
00:28:56,615 --> 00:28:58,855
I'm pretty sure. You know the little lullaby

796
00:28:58,855 --> 00:29:00,534
that went? Oh, you're gonna you're gonna give

797
00:29:00,534 --> 00:29:01,755
us a lullaby now,

798
00:29:03,095 --> 00:29:05,894
which which is fine. You're perfectly capable of

799
00:29:05,894 --> 00:29:08,069
singing. I'm not concerned about that. I'm just

800
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:09,589
are we going to have to pay? This

801
00:29:09,589 --> 00:29:12,169
is what this is. This is about foods

802
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:14,869
and and the and what to do at

803
00:29:14,869 --> 00:29:17,269
the table. What okay. What lullaby is this?

804
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:18,710
Do do you really have a lullaby here,

805
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:19,349
or are we,

806
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:22,630
going down the road fantastique? Let let me

807
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:24,115
go on here. Okay.

808
00:29:24,494 --> 00:29:26,894
How do you refuse something if it's presented

809
00:29:26,894 --> 00:29:28,255
to you and you don't you don't want

810
00:29:28,255 --> 00:29:29,394
it? How do you?

811
00:29:30,255 --> 00:29:30,994
I think

812
00:29:31,775 --> 00:29:33,695
if you know ahead of time and I

813
00:29:33,695 --> 00:29:35,375
think if if you do your research and

814
00:29:35,375 --> 00:29:37,019
you should do your research, if you know

815
00:29:37,019 --> 00:29:38,000
ahead of time

816
00:29:38,539 --> 00:29:41,100
the kinds of food that might be presented

817
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:41,759
to you,

818
00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:45,279
then you can inform your your your host

819
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:47,359
that ahead of time

820
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:50,304
that this is something that is not part

821
00:29:50,304 --> 00:29:51,285
of your diet

822
00:29:51,664 --> 00:29:52,164
or

823
00:29:52,545 --> 00:29:55,825
you're not eating meat these days or you're

824
00:29:55,825 --> 00:29:58,625
not drinking alcohol these days, whatever it is.

825
00:29:58,625 --> 00:30:01,664
Right. And so everybody's face is saved. Everyone

826
00:30:01,664 --> 00:30:04,224
is spared the embarrassment of you not eating

827
00:30:04,224 --> 00:30:04,724
something

828
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,160
that's served to you and you're spared having

829
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,660
to to deal with that challenge.

830
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,039
So if you can say something ahead of

831
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,820
time based on what you might know,

832
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,859
it's possibly

833
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,400
going to be served, then making it even

834
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,724
easier. Yeah. For them not to but if

835
00:30:20,724 --> 00:30:22,404
you do it in that situation, then you're

836
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:24,404
saying most likely you will not insult your

837
00:30:24,404 --> 00:30:26,724
host if you if you mention something about

838
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:27,384
your own

839
00:30:27,924 --> 00:30:30,244
circumstances, that you're there's a reason that you're

840
00:30:30,244 --> 00:30:31,605
doing it. The only thing I would say

841
00:30:31,605 --> 00:30:33,625
is you better remember what you have said

842
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,669
at that point. You don't wanna later on

843
00:30:37,289 --> 00:30:39,769
undermine yourself by doing something that would,

844
00:30:40,569 --> 00:30:42,649
that you just said you couldn't do because

845
00:30:42,649 --> 00:30:44,909
of fill in the blank. Yeah. Right.

846
00:30:45,210 --> 00:30:46,889
Or at that point, you're I guess you'd

847
00:30:46,889 --> 00:30:49,304
be compelled to try it. Right. And Right.

848
00:30:49,464 --> 00:30:51,244
That's the worst that can happen. So

849
00:30:51,625 --> 00:30:53,704
Yeah. You know, if something doesn't look good,

850
00:30:53,704 --> 00:30:55,304
then just move it around on your plate

851
00:30:55,304 --> 00:30:57,704
and until so you find something that does

852
00:30:57,704 --> 00:30:59,484
look good. Sure. Let's

853
00:30:59,785 --> 00:31:00,765
take a break.

854
00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:08,150
While listening to this, you may think,

855
00:31:08,529 --> 00:31:10,769
hey. You know, I wonder well, if you

856
00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:12,609
have a question like that and wanna ask

857
00:31:12,609 --> 00:31:14,369
us, there's a couple ways you can do

858
00:31:14,369 --> 00:31:17,329
it. One would be through email, which is

859
00:31:17,329 --> 00:31:19,044
oops culture show atgmail.com.

860
00:31:19,664 --> 00:31:20,804
That's o0pscultureshow@gmail.com.

861
00:31:23,984 --> 00:31:26,325
And then there's also our handle on Twitter,

862
00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,644
which is oops culture show.

863
00:31:29,025 --> 00:31:29,525
That's

864
00:31:30,464 --> 00:31:32,804
o o p s culture show.

865
00:31:33,345 --> 00:31:35,179
I know. I know. It's not original, but

866
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:37,579
but it works. Okay?

867
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:41,880
There are some myths that we have to

868
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,380
explode.

869
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,859
Wow. That myth Woah.

870
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,434
The myths of, you know, of how you're

871
00:31:48,434 --> 00:31:50,275
supposed to behave because there's lots of things

872
00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:51,494
we were discussing about

873
00:31:51,955 --> 00:31:54,035
unusual behaviors at the table, like putting the

874
00:31:54,035 --> 00:31:55,634
hood over your head when you're eating these

875
00:31:55,634 --> 00:31:58,214
birds from France and things like that. But

876
00:31:58,369 --> 00:32:00,850
but also, let's let's explode some, you know,

877
00:32:00,850 --> 00:32:02,450
go right ahead. Let's blow a few things

878
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:04,690
up in France. Let's go for it. I'm

879
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,930
a everyone thinks that the formal French meal

880
00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:09,330
is very fussy and you have to do

881
00:32:09,330 --> 00:32:09,830
things

882
00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:12,789
and you can't eat with your hands. Nonsense.

883
00:32:13,009 --> 00:32:13,509
Uh-huh.

884
00:32:14,134 --> 00:32:16,554
You have to eat asparagus with your fingers.

885
00:32:17,254 --> 00:32:19,734
It's probably one of the few foods in

886
00:32:19,734 --> 00:32:22,214
France in a traditional French meal that you

887
00:32:22,214 --> 00:32:24,294
can and should eat with your with your

888
00:32:24,294 --> 00:32:26,054
fingers. You pick up the asparagus. Now when

889
00:32:26,054 --> 00:32:27,654
you say you can eat them with your

890
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:29,599
fingers, I'm assuming you to a knife and

891
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,240
fork. Right. Okay. And you're meaning to pick

892
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,679
them up with your fingers and eat them

893
00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:35,919
as opposed to eating both the asparagus and

894
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:37,299
your fingers. Well,

895
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:39,679
no. The the only way you can eat

896
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:42,035
your fingers is by eating without a knife

897
00:32:42,035 --> 00:32:43,714
and fork. Or if or if you're in

898
00:32:43,714 --> 00:32:45,474
Vienna. I guess you could eat them with

899
00:32:45,474 --> 00:32:46,855
a knife and fork, but then

900
00:32:47,875 --> 00:32:49,634
thank you. Thank you, Taryn. Are we going

901
00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:51,554
back to the discussion was a little too

902
00:32:51,554 --> 00:32:53,795
high. A cannibalism. Flying over the roof of

903
00:32:53,795 --> 00:32:54,694
the of the building.

904
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,140
We, when

905
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:01,839
well, we've gone from sausages to fingers. I

906
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:03,919
think that's a logical progression. Not a big

907
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:05,539
leap. It's it's well,

908
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,720
look at your own fingers over there. I'm,

909
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,674
I'm So you can pick up, You should

910
00:33:11,975 --> 00:33:13,894
pick up the asparagus spews and eat it.

911
00:33:13,894 --> 00:33:16,134
Okay. So you're eating asparagus with your fingers

912
00:33:16,134 --> 00:33:18,775
in France too. Oh, yeah. That makes sense.

913
00:33:18,775 --> 00:33:19,835
There's a lot of pretension

914
00:33:20,615 --> 00:33:22,615
around many of these traditions that that this

915
00:33:22,615 --> 00:33:24,475
is the part that I'd like to explode.

916
00:33:24,779 --> 00:33:27,259
Perceived like if you go to Italy and

917
00:33:27,259 --> 00:33:28,779
you have to eat your pizza with a

918
00:33:28,779 --> 00:33:31,039
knife and fork. Nonsense. Well,

919
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,740
really? I didn't know. Yeah. No. I mean,

920
00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:35,180
it depends on the size of the pizza

921
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,259
and depends on the kind of preparation that

922
00:33:37,259 --> 00:33:39,759
the pasta is is. Right. But

923
00:33:40,234 --> 00:33:41,914
there are some places you would, but there

924
00:33:41,914 --> 00:33:43,595
are many places you would not. You would

925
00:33:43,595 --> 00:33:44,815
you would eat it

926
00:33:45,515 --> 00:33:47,035
the way you would expect to eat it,

927
00:33:47,035 --> 00:33:48,475
like in New York. I mean, you you

928
00:33:48,475 --> 00:33:50,335
get a slice of pizza from the Sicilian

929
00:33:50,394 --> 00:33:52,394
pizzeria, which is about as authentic as you

930
00:33:52,394 --> 00:33:55,130
can get Right. Down the street. And, you

931
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:57,769
know, you're you're eating it, without a knife

932
00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:59,610
and fork. And and then I hope so.

933
00:33:59,610 --> 00:34:01,470
But then you can walk into some restaurants

934
00:34:01,769 --> 00:34:03,690
in America where they serve you a pizza,

935
00:34:03,690 --> 00:34:05,370
and they give you knives and forks and,

936
00:34:05,370 --> 00:34:08,090
like, nobody else is eating it that way.

937
00:34:08,090 --> 00:34:11,494
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, it's Chicago,

938
00:34:12,114 --> 00:34:14,594
though, the deep dish pie. Like, that's that's

939
00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:15,094
already

940
00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:17,974
a a pasta in a class by itself.

941
00:34:18,034 --> 00:34:20,755
Well, it's not it's it's it's it's a

942
00:34:20,755 --> 00:34:23,154
it's a pizza that has morphed into something

943
00:34:23,154 --> 00:34:24,835
else. I think our and and I think

944
00:34:24,835 --> 00:34:27,360
our we may see our our our Northeastern,

945
00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:30,000
United States regionalism

946
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:31,019
start to,

947
00:34:31,659 --> 00:34:33,420
start to show about that. Oh, no. The

948
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:35,679
Chicago deep dish pizza is fantastic.

949
00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:38,804
Okay. It's just nothing like a traditional slice

950
00:34:38,804 --> 00:34:40,724
of pizza. No. It's not. So you of

951
00:34:40,724 --> 00:34:42,244
course, you have to eat it differently because

952
00:34:42,244 --> 00:34:44,164
it's it it is just a whole other

953
00:34:44,164 --> 00:34:47,445
thing. Right. But that the pasta thing, like,

954
00:34:47,445 --> 00:34:49,385
here's another pretension. Explode.

955
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,539
Oh, hold on. Hold on.

956
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,519
Now there's explosions going off. Pretension number 3,

957
00:34:57,519 --> 00:34:58,019
explode.

958
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,219
You get a bowl of of pasta, and

959
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,214
Uh-huh. You're you're supposed people think they're supposed

960
00:35:04,214 --> 00:35:05,734
to twirl. I'm sorry. Did you say bowl

961
00:35:05,734 --> 00:35:07,255
of pasta? I'm having a little trouble hearing

962
00:35:07,255 --> 00:35:09,014
you. My my ear is still ringing from

963
00:35:09,014 --> 00:35:09,835
the explosion.

964
00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:11,014
So

965
00:35:12,295 --> 00:35:14,375
And you think you're supposed to twirl it

966
00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:16,039
against the inside of a spoon. So you're

967
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,199
talking like spaghetti pasta? But yeah. Yeah. I'm

968
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,260
sorry. Like, we need fettuccine spaghetti. Right. Right.

969
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,719
The long noodle type. Right. And you're supposed

970
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960
to twirl it against your spoon? Yeah. Yeah.

971
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,264
Nobody does that in Italy. Well, okay. Twirl

972
00:35:29,264 --> 00:35:31,184
it against the inside of the bowl that

973
00:35:31,184 --> 00:35:33,105
it's served in. Well, that makes perfect sense.

974
00:35:33,105 --> 00:35:33,905
Well, you see of

975
00:35:35,025 --> 00:35:37,664
then why did it evolve into twirling against

976
00:35:37,664 --> 00:35:39,664
the inside of a spoon? Well, I'm going

977
00:35:39,664 --> 00:35:41,984
to guess that it there because in the

978
00:35:41,984 --> 00:35:42,484
US,

979
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:46,019
you'd oftentimes, you get spaghetti served on a

980
00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:46,839
flat plate,

981
00:35:47,539 --> 00:35:49,799
which makes it much more difficult to twirl

982
00:35:50,019 --> 00:35:51,299
than if it was in a bowl where

983
00:35:51,299 --> 00:35:53,299
you have that rounded edge. Well, that makes

984
00:35:53,299 --> 00:35:55,139
sense, which makes the question and it begs

985
00:35:55,139 --> 00:35:56,579
the question, why was it served on a

986
00:35:56,579 --> 00:35:58,804
flat plate? And the answer is?

987
00:36:00,304 --> 00:36:01,844
Torin, could you look that up?

988
00:36:03,905 --> 00:36:04,405
Sure.

989
00:36:05,264 --> 00:36:07,824
Yeah. There was an Italian diplomat who was,

990
00:36:08,224 --> 00:36:10,724
stationed in New York. Yes.

991
00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:13,369
And he was stunned. He was

992
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:15,829
he actually wrote it on purpose. Someone stunned

993
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:16,329
him.

994
00:36:16,949 --> 00:36:18,949
Well, it's a diplomatic thing to do. Depends

995
00:36:18,949 --> 00:36:20,469
on the location in New York City. It's

996
00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:23,429
possible. Yeah. It could happen. But he wrote

997
00:36:23,429 --> 00:36:24,409
a note back

998
00:36:24,789 --> 00:36:28,224
home saying, I can't believe that in America.

999
00:36:28,684 --> 00:36:30,204
He was in New York, though. But he

1000
00:36:30,204 --> 00:36:31,105
said, well,

1001
00:36:31,485 --> 00:36:33,265
it's in America. Okay. Go ahead.

1002
00:36:33,965 --> 00:36:36,304
They they put lemon peel

1003
00:36:37,085 --> 00:36:38,224
in their espresso.

1004
00:36:39,099 --> 00:36:39,599
Oh.

1005
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:41,920
And that's because

1006
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,719
this particular fellow was from Milan.

1007
00:36:45,019 --> 00:36:48,059
Uh-huh. Northern Italy. Right. But the culture in

1008
00:36:48,059 --> 00:36:49,739
New York City, the Italian culture in New

1009
00:36:49,739 --> 00:36:52,159
York City is from Southern Italian immigrants

1010
00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:52,960
primarily.

1011
00:36:53,484 --> 00:36:57,025
Right. And Southern Italian immigrants, Sicily, Calabria. Okay.

1012
00:36:57,565 --> 00:36:58,864
You have lemon trees.

1013
00:36:59,164 --> 00:37:01,244
Mhmm. And so it's a nice touch to

1014
00:37:01,244 --> 00:37:03,724
add us a piece of lemon peel to

1015
00:37:03,724 --> 00:37:05,804
your espresso. Right. So you're talking we're talking

1016
00:37:05,804 --> 00:37:08,605
little Italy, little Italy, which in Milan, we

1017
00:37:08,605 --> 00:37:10,980
don't do. Right. You don't get espresso with

1018
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:11,800
lemon peel.

1019
00:37:12,579 --> 00:37:14,019
I don't even know if there are yes.

1020
00:37:14,019 --> 00:37:15,699
There are lemon trees around Milan. But but

1021
00:37:15,699 --> 00:37:17,699
this but certainly, it wasn't the tradition. And

1022
00:37:17,699 --> 00:37:19,140
he was stunned. He said, what kind of

1023
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:21,239
what kind of Italian tradition is this?

1024
00:37:21,635 --> 00:37:24,034
He didn't know that in the southern part

1025
00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:25,014
of his own country,

1026
00:37:25,394 --> 00:37:27,234
that's how they served espresso, and that's how

1027
00:37:27,234 --> 00:37:29,014
it was being served in New York. Sure.

1028
00:37:29,074 --> 00:37:30,594
So for him, it was kind of strange

1029
00:37:30,594 --> 00:37:31,574
and maybe pretentious.

1030
00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:33,335
Right. But, you know,

1031
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
we still enjoy our Well, you know, I

1032
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,559
mean, way things are served throughout our country.

1033
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:40,640
Obviously, our country is much larger than Italy,

1034
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840
but it's throughout our country. You'll find certain

1035
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,005
dishes. What we were talking about, deep dish

1036
00:37:46,244 --> 00:37:47,704
pizza as opposed to

1037
00:37:48,164 --> 00:37:50,085
the the the pizza that we have in

1038
00:37:50,085 --> 00:37:51,144
the in the northeast,

1039
00:37:52,085 --> 00:37:54,005
and so forth. That there's they just serve

1040
00:37:54,005 --> 00:37:56,324
different ways. And here's the question. So you're

1041
00:37:56,324 --> 00:37:57,464
holding your pizza

1042
00:37:57,764 --> 00:38:00,000
slice of pizza? You're holding your pizza. And

1043
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,320
as long as I'm holding my pizza and

1044
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,219
not your pizza.

1045
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,340
Okay.

1046
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,280
The question We're talking about eating with our

1047
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,280
fingers again here. Now reading it with our

1048
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,920
fingers. Yeah. Not not not a knife and

1049
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,059
a fork. Okay.

1050
00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,715
Certain politicians have I've really heard about it

1051
00:38:18,715 --> 00:38:21,275
here. Now still the question comes up. Do

1052
00:38:21,275 --> 00:38:22,414
we fold it

1053
00:38:23,515 --> 00:38:25,035
or do we about the pizza now? The

1054
00:38:25,035 --> 00:38:28,074
pizza slice of pizza. Do we fold it?

1055
00:38:28,074 --> 00:38:30,849
Yeah. Like the sides, like you would make

1056
00:38:30,849 --> 00:38:32,150
a a paper airplane?

1057
00:38:32,449 --> 00:38:34,530
Well, I I don't think you wanna make

1058
00:38:34,530 --> 00:38:36,609
a a pizza airplane out of it. Well,

1059
00:38:36,609 --> 00:38:38,449
some people fold it. Well, yeah. And I

1060
00:38:38,449 --> 00:38:40,530
think folding is is an acceptable way to

1061
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:41,030
handle

1062
00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:44,449
usually, if there's if it's in danger of

1063
00:38:44,449 --> 00:38:45,510
sliding off

1064
00:38:46,404 --> 00:38:48,105
what's on top of it, the oils,

1065
00:38:48,484 --> 00:38:50,284
the cheese, things like that, that's in danger

1066
00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:53,045
of sliding off, then the fold, which goes

1067
00:38:53,045 --> 00:38:53,545
lengthwise

1068
00:38:53,924 --> 00:38:55,864
from the wide end to the narrow end,

1069
00:38:56,404 --> 00:38:58,005
is is the appropriate way to do it.

1070
00:38:58,005 --> 00:38:58,964
What if you ate it the other what

1071
00:38:58,964 --> 00:39:00,539
if you folded it the other way around?

1072
00:39:00,619 --> 00:39:02,539
And people have. I've seen people fold it

1073
00:39:02,539 --> 00:39:04,300
the other way, and usually they become a

1074
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,460
mess. Yeah. It just kinda all runs out

1075
00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:09,099
the sides because that's doesn't make any sense.

1076
00:39:09,099 --> 00:39:10,860
And that's why we don't fold it that

1077
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:11,360
way.

1078
00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:14,385
You know, like like a lot of like

1079
00:39:14,385 --> 00:39:16,785
Ethiopian bread, I'm thinking it's making me think

1080
00:39:16,785 --> 00:39:18,005
of that. Okay.

1081
00:39:18,385 --> 00:39:20,885
You said it's this big round

1082
00:39:22,305 --> 00:39:24,704
tray. Yeah. And it's and it's made to

1083
00:39:24,704 --> 00:39:27,985
serve the entire table. Okay. And depending on

1084
00:39:27,985 --> 00:39:28,485
where

1085
00:39:29,019 --> 00:39:29,840
you sit,

1086
00:39:30,220 --> 00:39:31,980
you're supposed to break off a piece of

1087
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:34,539
the bread and dip it into the sauces

1088
00:39:34,539 --> 00:39:36,140
and the meats and all the other things

1089
00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:37,680
and pop it in your mouth. Right.

1090
00:39:38,539 --> 00:39:40,619
And it raises the rule. And this is

1091
00:39:40,619 --> 00:39:42,300
not pretentious, by the way. This is a

1092
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:43,440
rule. I mean, it's practical.

1093
00:39:44,005 --> 00:39:46,644
You, whenever you're served communally like that, whether

1094
00:39:46,644 --> 00:39:47,465
it's a big

1095
00:39:47,844 --> 00:39:50,724
tray of of one particular item or many

1096
00:39:50,724 --> 00:39:51,545
different items,

1097
00:39:52,804 --> 00:39:54,804
you only eat from the side that's in

1098
00:39:54,804 --> 00:39:55,625
front of you.

1099
00:39:55,925 --> 00:39:58,264
Don't reach over to another side,

1100
00:39:58,619 --> 00:40:00,539
because that side is for the person on

1101
00:40:00,539 --> 00:40:02,079
that side. Right. Right.

1102
00:40:02,619 --> 00:40:04,559
And it just gets kind of messy

1103
00:40:04,859 --> 00:40:07,259
in to to be eating other than just

1104
00:40:07,259 --> 00:40:09,359
the area that's right in front of you.

1105
00:40:10,139 --> 00:40:11,420
But a lot of people, you know, if

1106
00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:13,175
you go to Ethiopia or you go to

1107
00:40:13,175 --> 00:40:15,055
places in India where we're eating with our

1108
00:40:15,335 --> 00:40:18,315
basically, communally like that, with our hands and

1109
00:40:18,454 --> 00:40:19,994
and and communally serve food,

1110
00:40:20,534 --> 00:40:22,155
they're reaching all over the place.

1111
00:40:22,454 --> 00:40:24,420
You know? First of all, the food isn't

1112
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:26,339
any different in front of somebody else as

1113
00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:27,940
it is in front of you. No. Isn't

1114
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:30,739
it, though? Yeah. Isn't it? No. It's not.

1115
00:40:30,739 --> 00:40:33,059
Come on. You always got that little bit

1116
00:40:33,059 --> 00:40:34,440
better thing that I did.

1117
00:40:35,139 --> 00:40:35,880
The if

1118
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:38,755
that's if that's the case, it's because they're

1119
00:40:38,755 --> 00:40:41,255
honoring you by giving you the the scarcest

1120
00:40:41,315 --> 00:40:42,614
and choicest things.

1121
00:40:42,914 --> 00:40:45,974
Okay. So what you're getting is still probably

1122
00:40:46,035 --> 00:40:48,115
the better parts of the agency.

1123
00:40:48,515 --> 00:40:50,434
Probably shouldn't reach over and grab that from

1124
00:40:50,434 --> 00:40:51,929
someone who got it served to them by

1125
00:40:51,929 --> 00:40:52,589
the host.

1126
00:40:52,969 --> 00:40:54,809
It just seems really I'm just guessing on

1127
00:40:54,809 --> 00:40:57,630
that one. But, you know It's worth mentioning.

1128
00:40:57,769 --> 00:41:00,730
Yeah. I well yeah. And I did. Don't.

1129
00:41:00,730 --> 00:41:01,230
Yeah.

1130
00:41:03,289 --> 00:41:03,789
Okay.

1131
00:41:04,994 --> 00:41:05,494
It's

1132
00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:08,454
And in the Middle East and in India

1133
00:41:08,514 --> 00:41:10,194
and the place that we're talking about eating

1134
00:41:10,194 --> 00:41:12,594
with our hands here, you eat with your

1135
00:41:12,594 --> 00:41:13,094
hand.

1136
00:41:14,114 --> 00:41:16,755
Just one hand. The right hand. The correct

1137
00:41:16,755 --> 00:41:18,194
hand, which is the

1138
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,199
The right hand. Keep your left hand in

1139
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:22,260
your lap. Okay.

1140
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,320
Just leave it in your lap. And there's

1141
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,380
and that follows

1142
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,059
more than tradition.

1143
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,380
Which means you're breaking the bread,

1144
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:31,280
you know, with your right hand. You're kind

1145
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,315
of, like, tearing it.

1146
00:41:32,614 --> 00:41:34,241
Yep. Yep. And it's a little bit of

1147
00:41:34,241 --> 00:41:34,855
a trick to do. So you're saying you're

1148
00:41:34,855 --> 00:41:35,094
it's you're a one handed hand eater? Yes.

1149
00:41:35,094 --> 00:41:35,308
A one handed hand. Didn't they have a

1150
00:41:35,308 --> 00:41:36,394
song about that in the 50s?

1151
00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:39,275
Using one hand eater.

1152
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Yeah. Because otherwise, we're eating hands the way

1153
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,039
I said it before again. And You keep

1154
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:51,559
going back to that. I mean, maybe you

1155
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:53,639
know something about a culture where Well, there

1156
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:55,559
are there could be. You know? I mean,

1157
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:57,320
you might don't like you said before, just

1158
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,139
don't ask.

1159
00:41:58,734 --> 00:41:59,855
You know? Because if you like what it

1160
00:41:59,855 --> 00:42:02,655
tastes like, who cares? When yes. Sorry. Go

1161
00:42:02,655 --> 00:42:04,414
ahead. Just the right hand. And you're eating

1162
00:42:04,414 --> 00:42:06,255
with that hand, the right hand. Right. Which

1163
00:42:06,255 --> 00:42:07,454
can be a little bit of a trick

1164
00:42:07,454 --> 00:42:09,934
because if you break pieces Right. Bread, you

1165
00:42:09,934 --> 00:42:11,775
know, you gotta, like, do it with your

1166
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:14,010
between your thumb and your finger and kind

1167
00:42:14,010 --> 00:42:15,930
of tear it. There's a talent to it.

1168
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:17,450
You just get used to it. That's all.

1169
00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:18,730
Right. And your hands are gonna get a

1170
00:42:18,730 --> 00:42:20,329
lot of talent. What you're doing is you

1171
00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:22,090
break the bread, then you dip it in

1172
00:42:22,090 --> 00:42:23,450
the sauce, and then you pick up a

1173
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:24,105
cube of

1174
00:42:24,585 --> 00:42:26,864
of lamb, let's say, or some veggies Mhmm.

1175
00:42:26,984 --> 00:42:28,425
And you pop the whole business in your

1176
00:42:28,425 --> 00:42:30,505
mouth. Yes. So the sauce is running down

1177
00:42:30,505 --> 00:42:32,744
your fingers. Are we primarily back in the

1178
00:42:32,744 --> 00:42:34,425
Middle East right now? We're in the Middle

1179
00:42:34,425 --> 00:42:36,664
East. Yeah. This is a traditional way of

1180
00:42:36,664 --> 00:42:37,164
eating,

1181
00:42:37,864 --> 00:42:39,869
let's say, at a at a Arab feast.

1182
00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:40,769
Okay. I

1183
00:42:41,550 --> 00:42:43,869
don't wanna be that general. A Bedouin feast.

1184
00:42:43,869 --> 00:42:44,369
Alright.

1185
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:45,490
Okay.

1186
00:42:46,269 --> 00:42:49,230
Certainly in India and South Asia Yep. The

1187
00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:51,869
traditional Indian meal is eaten with the right

1188
00:42:51,869 --> 00:42:54,030
hand Mhmm. With the hands. You'd not serve

1189
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:56,385
cutlery. There's no knives or forks or anything.

1190
00:42:56,845 --> 00:42:59,724
Right? In Southeast Asia, you can get your

1191
00:42:59,724 --> 00:43:01,965
food served on a big banana leaf, not

1192
00:43:01,965 --> 00:43:03,724
even a plate. Mhmm. So you just get

1193
00:43:03,724 --> 00:43:05,664
a big fresh banana leaf

1194
00:43:05,965 --> 00:43:07,644
put right in front of you. Yep. And

1195
00:43:07,644 --> 00:43:09,164
then the food, the rice will be a

1196
00:43:09,164 --> 00:43:11,969
little mound of rice and then some some

1197
00:43:11,969 --> 00:43:13,570
of the meat, some of the veggies, some

1198
00:43:13,570 --> 00:43:15,170
of the sauces. I mean, in those areas,

1199
00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:15,670
bananas

1200
00:43:15,969 --> 00:43:18,769
banana leaves grow on trees. Yes. You know?

1201
00:43:18,769 --> 00:43:20,289
I I think they grow on trees just

1202
00:43:20,289 --> 00:43:22,929
about everywhere. Do they? Yes. And in Southeast

1203
00:43:22,929 --> 00:43:25,650
Asia, they're called banana leaf restaurants, actually. So

1204
00:43:25,650 --> 00:43:27,715
it's an indication, First of all, you might

1205
00:43:27,715 --> 00:43:29,875
be getting, it might be Muslim. Right? And

1206
00:43:30,034 --> 00:43:31,875
Okay. And then it might also be you're

1207
00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:33,635
gonna get food served this way. Mhmm. It's

1208
00:43:33,635 --> 00:43:35,234
not even on a plate. Mhmm. It's not

1209
00:43:35,234 --> 00:43:37,635
even with knives and forks. Okay. Your hands

1210
00:43:37,635 --> 00:43:39,175
are gonna get messy.

1211
00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:41,869
That's okay. There's usually a a sink,

1212
00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:43,849
in the corner of the dining room where

1213
00:43:43,849 --> 00:43:45,130
you can go and wash off your hands

1214
00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:47,690
whenever We're in Southeast Asia now. Yes. Yeah.

1215
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:50,409
Malaysia. I see. We're really bouncing around the

1216
00:43:50,409 --> 00:43:51,230
world today.

1217
00:43:51,849 --> 00:43:53,609
Stay with me. Pack your keep your bags

1218
00:43:53,609 --> 00:43:55,034
packed. I'm ready. Alright.

1219
00:43:55,994 --> 00:43:56,494
Singapore,

1220
00:43:56,795 --> 00:43:59,355
certain parts of Singapore, not the Chinese part

1221
00:43:59,355 --> 00:44:00,815
of Singapore, but the

1222
00:44:01,114 --> 00:44:01,775
the the the Malaysian

1223
00:44:02,234 --> 00:44:02,974
part of Singapore.

1224
00:44:04,714 --> 00:44:05,614
Yes. So,

1225
00:44:06,315 --> 00:44:07,434
you know Well, that's kind of inter I

1226
00:44:07,434 --> 00:44:09,329
mean, when you really think about that with

1227
00:44:09,329 --> 00:44:10,869
the the whole concept of,

1228
00:44:11,329 --> 00:44:14,390
you know, recycling, you know, that goes around,

1229
00:44:14,450 --> 00:44:16,950
a banana plate, a planted leaf plate

1230
00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:19,170
is is perfect. It's perfect. And when it's

1231
00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:20,849
when you're all done, they just fold up

1232
00:44:20,849 --> 00:44:22,210
the mess and throw it out. And it

1233
00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:24,630
becomes fertilizer. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect.

1234
00:44:25,964 --> 00:44:27,565
So I have no idea how we got

1235
00:44:27,565 --> 00:44:29,404
you. And you can lick your fingers because

1236
00:44:29,404 --> 00:44:32,045
you got delicious Uh-huh. Rice and sauce and

1237
00:44:32,045 --> 00:44:33,724
all sorts of things on there. Right. And

1238
00:44:33,724 --> 00:44:35,644
it's fine. You know, some people might be

1239
00:44:35,644 --> 00:44:36,144
thinking,

1240
00:44:36,844 --> 00:44:39,005
why can they do they only use the

1241
00:44:39,005 --> 00:44:41,139
right hand? And always only on the right

1242
00:44:41,139 --> 00:44:41,880
hand. Because

1243
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:43,159
in these cultures

1244
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,260
let's see if we can do this with

1245
00:44:46,579 --> 00:44:48,420
Yeah. You do that. We'll be we'll be

1246
00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:49,780
back. We'll we're gonna go get something to

1247
00:44:49,780 --> 00:44:51,780
eat while you figure this out. Before the

1248
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:53,139
advent of modern plumbing

1249
00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:54,440
Uh-huh.

1250
00:44:55,224 --> 00:44:57,164
And modern toilet conveniences.

1251
00:44:57,784 --> 00:44:58,284
Yes.

1252
00:44:58,585 --> 00:45:00,505
The left hand is the hand that's traditionally

1253
00:45:00,505 --> 00:45:03,385
used for personal hygiene. Okay. All right. So

1254
00:45:03,385 --> 00:45:05,144
and still today, you can walk into a

1255
00:45:05,144 --> 00:45:05,644
bathroom

1256
00:45:06,105 --> 00:45:07,244
and is basically

1257
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:10,599
there's no toilet paper, but there may be

1258
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,780
a bucket of water or or a

1259
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:15,800
hose hose, you know, and you just wash

1260
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,300
off

1261
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:18,140
and use your left hand

1262
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:21,400
and wash yourself off that way. Right? So

1263
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,284
you don't wanna then go back to the

1264
00:45:23,284 --> 00:45:25,045
table and use your left hand to eat

1265
00:45:25,045 --> 00:45:25,784
with or

1266
00:45:26,085 --> 00:45:28,724
pass food with or and, traditionally, it's become

1267
00:45:28,884 --> 00:45:31,525
you don't pass important documents with your left

1268
00:45:31,525 --> 00:45:33,525
hand. Or shake hand or anything like that.

1269
00:45:33,525 --> 00:45:35,784
That's right. Yes. That's right. Okay.

1270
00:45:36,164 --> 00:45:37,625
Which may be hard to,

1271
00:45:37,980 --> 00:45:40,940
you know, remember when you sit down to

1272
00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:43,260
just sit on your left hand. Don't put

1273
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:44,859
your left hand on the table. Don't don't

1274
00:45:44,859 --> 00:45:47,019
use it. Yes. Right. Don't coordinate it in.

1275
00:45:47,019 --> 00:45:49,840
And that that yeah. That's a distinct difference

1276
00:45:50,585 --> 00:45:51,085
between,

1277
00:45:51,944 --> 00:45:53,085
Western civilizations

1278
00:45:53,385 --> 00:45:53,885
primarily

1279
00:45:54,505 --> 00:45:56,264
and and the other areas of the world

1280
00:45:56,264 --> 00:45:58,204
that are are influenced by that. I mean,

1281
00:45:58,264 --> 00:46:00,184
it and I I would think that's gotta

1282
00:46:00,184 --> 00:46:02,444
be really, really important to remember

1283
00:46:03,549 --> 00:46:06,269
when when you're involved in that area to

1284
00:46:06,269 --> 00:46:08,589
to not do it. Because the other way

1285
00:46:08,589 --> 00:46:09,089
around

1286
00:46:09,549 --> 00:46:11,949
is there is no there's no real impact.

1287
00:46:11,949 --> 00:46:13,469
If you just ate with your right hand

1288
00:46:13,469 --> 00:46:16,030
coming here, someone might wonder why you didn't

1289
00:46:16,030 --> 00:46:17,170
use your left hand.

1290
00:46:17,549 --> 00:46:18,049
Maybe.

1291
00:46:18,394 --> 00:46:20,474
But mostly, it wouldn't have any real impact.

1292
00:46:20,474 --> 00:46:22,554
Right. Right. But the other way around would

1293
00:46:22,554 --> 00:46:25,914
have could have significant impact. I mean, it's

1294
00:46:25,914 --> 00:46:28,714
a general rule, right, that it does bend.

1295
00:46:28,714 --> 00:46:29,934
Like, if your colleague

1296
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:32,949
reaches over to give you an embrace Mhmm.

1297
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:34,170
With 2 hands.

1298
00:46:34,549 --> 00:46:36,949
Well, okay. Then then you can reciprocate with

1299
00:46:36,949 --> 00:46:39,190
2 hands. Mhmm. Right. But generally, in the

1300
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:41,269
course of a day, you avoid using the

1301
00:46:41,269 --> 00:46:42,969
left hand for important

1302
00:46:43,545 --> 00:46:45,804
important exchanges. Sure. Okay. Okay.

1303
00:46:46,184 --> 00:46:46,925
And certainly

1304
00:46:47,385 --> 00:46:49,304
at the dining table. Well well done because,

1305
00:46:49,304 --> 00:46:52,244
you you know, we all have the the

1306
00:46:52,505 --> 00:46:53,005
reputation

1307
00:46:53,625 --> 00:46:57,050
for when we start getting into, like, toilet

1308
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:59,930
talk, or or lack of toilet talk,

1309
00:47:00,469 --> 00:47:01,910
or lack of toilet. The,

1310
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:04,489
Talking about lack of toilet. Yes.

1311
00:47:04,789 --> 00:47:06,010
That that we can

1312
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:08,469
I was going to say really jump down

1313
00:47:08,469 --> 00:47:10,070
a hole with that, but that's probably a

1314
00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:11,369
bad bad choice?

1315
00:47:13,994 --> 00:47:15,994
Or did I just do that? I might

1316
00:47:15,994 --> 00:47:16,974
have. Yeah.

1317
00:47:19,914 --> 00:47:22,234
Sorry. I you know, it's my role. That's

1318
00:47:22,234 --> 00:47:23,295
what I do here.

1319
00:47:23,594 --> 00:47:27,054
It's probably time to take one last break.

1320
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,400
Okay. Listen. The way to get hold of

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00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,960
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1331
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1335
00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:07,230
Thank you.

1336
00:48:07,929 --> 00:48:09,449
But here's the other thing I wanted to

1337
00:48:09,449 --> 00:48:12,010
mention. Yeah. Eating with the fingers. Yes. Right?

1338
00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:13,549
Also a Hawaiian tradition

1339
00:48:14,275 --> 00:48:15,094
with poi.

1340
00:48:16,114 --> 00:48:17,554
Because what's poi? Poi is that

1341
00:48:18,994 --> 00:48:21,494
that's the other rhyme I was looking for

1342
00:48:22,355 --> 00:48:23,894
when we were talking about

1343
00:48:24,434 --> 00:48:26,614
the Japanese toilet and the koi

1344
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:29,410
toy. Oh, the toy. Oh, yes. Poi. We're

1345
00:48:29,410 --> 00:48:31,110
going back to episode 1 now.

1346
00:48:31,489 --> 00:48:31,989
It's

1347
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:34,050
it's it's If you haven't heard episode 1,

1348
00:48:34,050 --> 00:48:35,809
by the way, do yourself a favor. Go

1349
00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:38,550
and listen to episodes. It's called Poi Boy.

1350
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:39,855
Poi Boy.

1351
00:48:54,769 --> 00:48:55,670
It would be a

1352
00:48:56,449 --> 00:48:58,230
poi poi poi. Is what it would be.

1353
00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:01,730
And disgusting. I'm sorry if if anybody out

1354
00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:03,809
there likes poi. I mean, I like poi

1355
00:49:03,809 --> 00:49:05,989
too. You've now alienated the entire

1356
00:49:06,369 --> 00:49:07,329
poi poi

1357
00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:09,190
But but population.

1358
00:49:10,275 --> 00:49:12,594
But not in a in a sandwich. You

1359
00:49:12,594 --> 00:49:13,494
know? And

1360
00:49:15,074 --> 00:49:16,594
Why don't why can we get a You

1361
00:49:16,594 --> 00:49:18,755
know, see, you're jumping to conclusions. We've been

1362
00:49:18,755 --> 00:49:20,114
here. We we could have You could not

1363
00:49:20,114 --> 00:49:21,635
read a book by its cover or judge

1364
00:49:21,635 --> 00:49:22,994
a book by its cover. Hang on. We

1365
00:49:22,994 --> 00:49:25,394
could have a poi poi. Don't read a

1366
00:49:25,394 --> 00:49:27,820
book by its cover. It'll be much too

1367
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:29,179
short. And you were talking about Much too

1368
00:49:29,179 --> 00:49:30,480
short. You were talking

1369
00:49:31,099 --> 00:49:32,400
about about fish.

1370
00:49:32,859 --> 00:49:33,359
And

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00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:35,900
a koi is a fish. A koi is

1372
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:38,474
a fish. It's a cod, isn't it? No.

1373
00:49:38,474 --> 00:49:41,434
No. Koi is no. Koi is a is

1374
00:49:41,434 --> 00:49:43,355
more like a goldfish. Goldfish. It's one of

1375
00:49:43,355 --> 00:49:45,515
these big bulbous goldfish. Are you looking for

1376
00:49:45,515 --> 00:49:46,494
lips again here?

1377
00:49:49,595 --> 00:49:51,434
You you have a situation you need to

1378
00:49:51,434 --> 00:49:53,289
talk to somebody about, I believe. We could

1379
00:49:53,289 --> 00:49:55,069
have we could have a poi,

1380
00:49:56,010 --> 00:49:56,510
koi,

1381
00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:58,030
sandwich.

1382
00:49:59,530 --> 00:50:00,670
Yes. We could.

1383
00:50:01,609 --> 00:50:03,929
And the server is a The poi, koi,

1384
00:50:03,929 --> 00:50:04,429
poi?

1385
00:50:05,525 --> 00:50:07,845
Right. The poi, koi, boy, poi. Go ahead

1386
00:50:07,845 --> 00:50:09,625
and say that to recapture that. Yeah.

1387
00:50:10,085 --> 00:50:12,405
No. No. It's not. I speaking of lips,

1388
00:50:12,405 --> 00:50:14,105
I just threw mine out right there.

1389
00:50:15,445 --> 00:50:16,885
How do you put an ace bandage on

1390
00:50:16,885 --> 00:50:18,324
your lip? You don't. You have to put

1391
00:50:18,324 --> 00:50:19,785
it into the cast. Oh,

1392
00:50:21,809 --> 00:50:22,309
well,

1393
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:25,969
yes. Koi is like a goldfish. We would

1394
00:50:25,969 --> 00:50:27,090
look at it and go, oh, that must

1395
00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:28,690
be a goldfish, but it's really a little

1396
00:50:28,690 --> 00:50:30,450
different. But you see them a lot in

1397
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:32,230
decorative pools that are outside.

1398
00:50:35,224 --> 00:50:36,204
Thanks. Thanks.

1399
00:50:37,465 --> 00:50:39,224
That was the opposite of an explosion. I

1400
00:50:39,224 --> 00:50:40,445
believe it was an implosion,

1401
00:50:41,224 --> 00:50:41,724
and

1402
00:50:42,025 --> 00:50:43,864
it's it's now a black hole that's sucking

1403
00:50:43,864 --> 00:50:45,485
in everything around it.

1404
00:50:47,130 --> 00:50:47,609
So

1405
00:50:47,929 --> 00:50:49,789
Here's another Here he comes.

1406
00:50:52,409 --> 00:50:54,969
Are you blowing something else up? Yes. Okay.

1407
00:50:54,969 --> 00:50:56,489
What did I call those things that we've

1408
00:50:56,489 --> 00:50:58,109
been blowing up? I have no idea.

1409
00:50:59,609 --> 00:51:00,109
Pretensions.

1410
00:51:00,515 --> 00:51:01,574
Oh, okay. Pretensions.

1411
00:51:02,515 --> 00:51:05,315
Oh. Which is often what people do when

1412
00:51:05,315 --> 00:51:07,315
they don't know the rules. So they think

1413
00:51:07,315 --> 00:51:08,855
they're going to have to be

1414
00:51:09,235 --> 00:51:11,875
super proper in what and whatever that means

1415
00:51:11,875 --> 00:51:13,875
to them Right. In order to do it

1416
00:51:13,875 --> 00:51:15,929
right. And so here's another pretension,

1417
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:18,550
right? In Japan, yes, you walk into a

1418
00:51:18,550 --> 00:51:20,410
noodle shop, okay? And

1419
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:21,530
everyone

1420
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:24,469
in Tokyo is having lunch at a noodle

1421
00:51:24,469 --> 00:51:26,630
shop or, you know, people. Right. It's very

1422
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:28,775
common. You open the door and you walk

1423
00:51:28,775 --> 00:51:30,634
in, and all you hear is slurping.

1424
00:51:31,094 --> 00:51:33,014
Right? There was a slurp in their noodles,

1425
00:51:33,014 --> 00:51:34,154
and it's making that.

1426
00:51:34,614 --> 00:51:36,934
And didn't your mother always tell you in

1427
00:51:36,934 --> 00:51:38,614
the West, you know, yeah, chew with your

1428
00:51:38,614 --> 00:51:41,119
mouth closed. Don't make noise like that. And

1429
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:42,739
that's a really rude

1430
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:44,400
to slurp when you're eat

1431
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,280
drinking soup. Soup. Eating soup, drinking soup. That's

1432
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,039
right. So noodles are often served in a

1433
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:50,960
broth. It's kind of like a soup. Very

1434
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,085
much so. Like, chicken noodle soup would be

1435
00:51:53,085 --> 00:51:55,644
something we'd be familiar. Unaware Westerner would walk

1436
00:51:55,644 --> 00:51:58,125
into a noodle shop in Tokyo and be

1437
00:51:58,125 --> 00:52:00,304
done. Slurp fest. It's a slurp fest. Right?

1438
00:52:00,925 --> 00:52:02,844
And, yeah, you slurp. Of course. First of

1439
00:52:02,844 --> 00:52:05,405
all, it cools it down. Uh-huh. You may

1440
00:52:05,405 --> 00:52:06,909
be you may be eating it hot, but

1441
00:52:06,909 --> 00:52:09,630
there's also cold noodle dishes that Or it

1442
00:52:09,630 --> 00:52:12,429
could be that the kois are all sucking

1443
00:52:12,429 --> 00:52:13,789
up the water that they're in. So you

1444
00:52:13,789 --> 00:52:15,710
gotta eat it fast before they do. Go

1445
00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:17,010
get it. Yeah. You bet.

1446
00:52:17,789 --> 00:52:20,255
It was it was explained to me quite

1447
00:52:20,255 --> 00:52:22,575
earnestly that actually it tastes better when you

1448
00:52:22,575 --> 00:52:25,055
suck air through Uh-huh. As you eat it,

1449
00:52:25,055 --> 00:52:27,775
as the noodles enter your mouth. It just

1450
00:52:27,775 --> 00:52:28,835
helps the flavor.

1451
00:52:29,855 --> 00:52:30,355
Interesting.

1452
00:52:30,815 --> 00:52:32,974
And and in fact, so does wine when

1453
00:52:32,974 --> 00:52:35,579
you taste it when you're tasting it. You

1454
00:52:35,579 --> 00:52:37,579
sip it and initially and bring it in

1455
00:52:37,579 --> 00:52:40,539
with some air, it will exaggerate the, flavors.

1456
00:52:40,539 --> 00:52:42,460
That's like a that's a wine slurp, isn't

1457
00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:44,539
it? That's a wine slurp. Mhmm. By the

1458
00:52:44,539 --> 00:52:47,500
way, Ernest Lee, wasn't wasn't he a senator

1459
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:48,319
from Louisiana?

1460
00:52:49,114 --> 00:52:52,074
Yes. Uh-huh. Yeah. He was, actually. And and

1461
00:52:52,074 --> 00:52:52,894
his cousin

1462
00:52:55,594 --> 00:52:57,135
Go ahead. It's all yours.

1463
00:53:02,394 --> 00:53:05,430
That's gonna be cut. Right? Oh, no. Oh,

1464
00:53:05,570 --> 00:53:06,070
no.

1465
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:08,849
Oh, no. We've got people writing in asking

1466
00:53:08,849 --> 00:53:11,190
me to set you up like that. Really.

1467
00:53:17,864 --> 00:53:18,364
Well,

1468
00:53:18,824 --> 00:53:20,585
I think, you know, we've covered a lot

1469
00:53:20,585 --> 00:53:22,664
of lot of ground, and I think that,

1470
00:53:23,144 --> 00:53:25,065
it's time to get out of here. It's

1471
00:53:25,065 --> 00:53:25,465
still,

1472
00:53:26,184 --> 00:53:26,684
oops.

1473
00:53:27,545 --> 00:53:30,525
Your culture's showing. You know, we've been infatuated

1474
00:53:30,664 --> 00:53:31,485
with food.

1475
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:35,070
The last podcast and this podcast Everyone's infatuated.

1476
00:53:35,289 --> 00:53:37,130
If I may be. It's basic to life.

1477
00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:38,570
Well, it's It's sort of like It's one

1478
00:53:38,570 --> 00:53:41,469
of life's great pleasures. It is. The Chinese

1479
00:53:41,849 --> 00:53:43,769
say, you know, that it is the it

1480
00:53:43,769 --> 00:53:46,489
is the first great pleasure. Do they? Mhmm.

1481
00:53:46,489 --> 00:53:46,989
Okay.

1482
00:53:47,355 --> 00:53:48,315
Dean Foster, the,

1483
00:53:48,954 --> 00:53:50,954
the person who knows more about cultures in

1484
00:53:50,954 --> 00:53:53,195
the world than anyone else out there, at

1485
00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:54,655
least that's what he tells us,

1486
00:53:56,315 --> 00:53:57,614
and and who's been exploding

1487
00:53:58,074 --> 00:53:59,054
all day today.

1488
00:54:00,329 --> 00:54:02,250
I only say that because my publisher tells

1489
00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:04,269
me that. Is that right? Yes. Well, that's

1490
00:54:04,409 --> 00:54:05,309
good for them.

1491
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:08,170
Probably that's in the their best interest, but

1492
00:54:08,170 --> 00:54:08,670
okay.

1493
00:54:09,369 --> 00:54:11,210
And and that exploding thing,

1494
00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:14,234
I'm thinking it's something you ate, which goes

1495
00:54:14,234 --> 00:54:16,394
right along with the, with the what we're

1496
00:54:16,394 --> 00:54:17,534
talking about here today.

1497
00:54:18,074 --> 00:54:19,755
Look, your culture's still showing and that's what's

1498
00:54:19,755 --> 00:54:21,434
going on. And you gotta do something about

1499
00:54:21,434 --> 00:54:23,355
that. That's right. And thank you very much

1500
00:54:23,355 --> 00:54:25,114
for that. And and and I'm still Tom

1501
00:54:25,114 --> 00:54:26,875
Peterson and we Torrin, are you still here?

1502
00:54:26,875 --> 00:54:28,130
I'm still here. Okay.

1503
00:54:28,769 --> 00:54:31,250
Torren's still here, and and we're heading on

1504
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:32,690
our way out of here for this one.

1505
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:36,230
So, oops. Your culture's showing. Thank you.

1506
00:54:36,849 --> 00:54:37,670
Smell you.

1507
00:54:46,655 --> 00:54:49,454
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