1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,539 Hello and welcome. 2 00:00:13,664 --> 00:00:15,285 Oops. Your culture's showing. 3 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:18,704 We're here today to talk about culture to 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,644 you and hopefully to make it 5 00:00:21,184 --> 00:00:23,425 pretty interesting. My name is Tom Peterson, and 6 00:00:23,425 --> 00:00:25,445 I'm the host, and I'm sitting here with 7 00:00:25,664 --> 00:00:28,085 Dean Foster. Hi, Dean. Good morning, Tom. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,679 And, what are we doing with this culture 9 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:32,520 stuff? I mean, it sound honestly, it sounds 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,280 really dry. You know, here you and I, 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,039 here we are. Just think about what you 12 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:37,979 even did this morning, which is like the 13 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,120 most What did I do this morning? I'm 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,854 I'm being It's what you didn't do. I 15 00:00:41,854 --> 00:00:43,375 think I know. I'm personally attacking me here. 16 00:00:43,375 --> 00:00:45,134 I I noticed that you did not shave 17 00:00:45,134 --> 00:00:47,295 this morning. I did not shave this morning, 18 00:00:47,295 --> 00:00:49,534 and and I I did not and why 19 00:00:49,534 --> 00:00:51,695 why is that culture? I don't get that. 20 00:00:51,854 --> 00:00:54,655 It is. There's a cultural piece to that. 21 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:55,475 Yeah. Culture 22 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:58,289 is in everything. Everything we do, everything that 23 00:00:58,289 --> 00:01:00,450 people do to with to and with us 24 00:01:00,609 --> 00:01:02,929 Okay. Has a culture. Okay. Okay. Okay. So 25 00:01:02,929 --> 00:01:04,209 you sound sort of like you know what 26 00:01:04,209 --> 00:01:05,189 you're talking about? 27 00:01:05,490 --> 00:01:06,630 You done this before? 28 00:01:07,010 --> 00:01:09,569 About thirty years. Oh. About a hundred plus 29 00:01:09,569 --> 00:01:12,185 countries. Oh oh oh, okay. Really? Yeah. Oh, 30 00:01:12,185 --> 00:01:12,685 okay. 31 00:01:13,064 --> 00:01:16,665 Alright. Fortune 500 companies. Oh, yeah. Okay. A 32 00:01:16,665 --> 00:01:18,685 few books. So so you dabble? 33 00:01:18,984 --> 00:01:21,144 Yeah. I dabble. Yeah. Okay. Alright. I'm very 34 00:01:21,144 --> 00:01:23,384 lucky because I'm dabbling in something that's really, 35 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:26,200 really fun. I've I've had the perfect job. 36 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,400 Well, if you dabble in it, you clean 37 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,219 it up. Alright? 38 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,600 I hope hopefully, I don't make a mess. 39 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,260 I think 40 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,760 probably we've already made a mess, but that's 41 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,280 not going to stop us. We're going to 42 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,960 keep right on with it anyhow. So So 43 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:40,155 I'm thinking you didn't shave in this a 44 00:01:40,155 --> 00:01:42,334 whole cultural discussion around that. Yeah. 45 00:01:42,875 --> 00:01:44,314 Well, let me put it this way. I'm 46 00:01:44,314 --> 00:01:46,795 not real concerned about being attractive to you, 47 00:01:46,795 --> 00:01:47,275 so, 48 00:01:47,834 --> 00:01:48,395 I'm not, 49 00:01:49,034 --> 00:01:50,314 I didn't I didn't worry about it a 50 00:01:50,314 --> 00:01:51,355 whole lot when I got up and looked 51 00:01:51,355 --> 00:01:53,034 in the mirror this morning and said, do 52 00:01:53,034 --> 00:01:54,840 I need to, you know, do I need 53 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,840 to really go through the whole shaving routine 54 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,079 for Dean? You you just brought me so 55 00:01:59,079 --> 00:01:59,819 far down. 56 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,359 I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed. Well, you 57 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:04,599 know, my my goal is not to bring 58 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:06,375 you down, but but my goal is to 59 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:08,854 be honest and straightforward. I would expect that 60 00:02:08,854 --> 00:02:10,875 if we're gonna get together and bring something 61 00:02:11,014 --> 00:02:13,275 here, I mean, you'd have a little respect. 62 00:02:13,735 --> 00:02:15,335 And Oh, well, then we got a real 63 00:02:15,335 --> 00:02:17,275 big problem if I have to have respect. 64 00:02:18,770 --> 00:02:21,009 Shave. You know, but I don't need to 65 00:02:21,009 --> 00:02:22,769 shave. I didn't need to shave. The truth 66 00:02:22,769 --> 00:02:24,769 is I didn't shave this morning. Well, see. 67 00:02:24,769 --> 00:02:26,689 There you go. There you go. Now listen. 68 00:02:26,689 --> 00:02:28,689 It it's so so That's not because I 69 00:02:28,689 --> 00:02:30,735 didn't wanna look good for you. 70 00:02:36,735 --> 00:02:38,655 And by the way, the the the laughter 71 00:02:38,655 --> 00:02:40,495 that you're hearing that isn't either one of 72 00:02:40,495 --> 00:02:42,115 us is our producer, Torin. 73 00:02:42,495 --> 00:02:42,995 Hello. 74 00:02:43,294 --> 00:02:44,594 Hello, Torin. Hello. 75 00:02:45,689 --> 00:02:48,569 He's brilliant. He's always there. He's he's he's 76 00:02:48,569 --> 00:02:51,289 always jumping in with with wonderful pieces of 77 00:02:51,289 --> 00:02:53,229 information. No. It's a matter of respect. 78 00:02:53,610 --> 00:02:55,530 Right? It it is? Yeah. And and if 79 00:02:55,530 --> 00:02:57,289 I really respected you, I would have shaved 80 00:02:57,289 --> 00:02:58,829 this morning. There 81 00:02:59,129 --> 00:03:01,355 you go. Now it's out. You see? 82 00:03:01,895 --> 00:03:05,435 Okay. Fair enough. However, there are there are 83 00:03:06,135 --> 00:03:07,355 places on the planet, 84 00:03:07,814 --> 00:03:10,294 groups of people on the planet who who 85 00:03:10,294 --> 00:03:12,775 shaving becomes some sort of ritual. Right? I 86 00:03:12,775 --> 00:03:14,855 mean, there or am I just making this 87 00:03:14,855 --> 00:03:16,699 stuff up? Oh, I think so. I mean, 88 00:03:16,699 --> 00:03:18,560 I think, you know, the facial hair, 89 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,300 fashions of the day Yeah. Are kind of 90 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,840 rituals. Right? Okay. Yeah. 91 00:03:24,459 --> 00:03:26,639 And and it's isn't it interesting, like, today 92 00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:28,604 I'll be the judge of that. But go 93 00:03:28,604 --> 00:03:30,164 ahead. Men can wear facial hair like it's 94 00:03:30,164 --> 00:03:33,064 required now on TV. You know? Every commentator's 95 00:03:33,204 --> 00:03:35,944 got some level of, like, hip facial hair. 96 00:03:36,004 --> 00:03:38,245 Right? Yeah. Like partial growth. Yeah. And and 97 00:03:38,245 --> 00:03:40,824 some groups of people, like, facial hair has 98 00:03:40,965 --> 00:03:43,144 incredible meaning and and significance, 99 00:03:43,449 --> 00:03:45,949 even religious significance. Right? So Sure. 100 00:03:46,489 --> 00:03:50,109 Name three. Right? I mean, orthodox Jews. Okay. 101 00:03:50,489 --> 00:03:52,489 The men. I'm talking about the men. Okay. 102 00:03:52,489 --> 00:03:55,370 And and also many Muslim sects. By the 103 00:03:55,370 --> 00:03:57,530 way, you're walking by yourself through Williamsburg the 104 00:03:57,530 --> 00:03:59,674 next time. Okay? The men are wearing long 105 00:03:59,674 --> 00:04:02,394 beards, and it has religious significance. Right? So 106 00:04:02,394 --> 00:04:03,294 facial hair 107 00:04:03,594 --> 00:04:05,194 is it tells a lot. You know what 108 00:04:05,194 --> 00:04:07,134 else? No. I don't. Head coverings. 109 00:04:07,514 --> 00:04:08,334 Have you noticed 110 00:04:08,634 --> 00:04:10,235 the coverings of the hair on the top 111 00:04:10,235 --> 00:04:11,055 of the head? 112 00:04:11,650 --> 00:04:14,050 What oh, you mean not like a hat, 113 00:04:14,050 --> 00:04:15,750 but like but but like hair? 114 00:04:16,290 --> 00:04:18,610 Hair you can have hair covering hair. I'm 115 00:04:18,610 --> 00:04:20,850 guessing that hair on many parts of the 116 00:04:20,850 --> 00:04:23,009 body means something throughout the world. I think 117 00:04:23,089 --> 00:04:24,610 yeah. And whether you shave it or not 118 00:04:24,689 --> 00:04:27,404 Yeah. It has a social and cultural significance. 119 00:04:27,545 --> 00:04:29,144 So so we're starting off with our our 120 00:04:29,144 --> 00:04:31,705 our our lead in subject here for today 121 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:33,805 is is hair on the body. 122 00:04:34,504 --> 00:04:37,165 What does that mean? Or not. Or not. 123 00:04:37,464 --> 00:04:39,004 Or not. Absolutely. 124 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:41,360 So okay. I mean, there could be practical 125 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,360 purposes. Like, I understand bikers, and I'm not 126 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,360 a real biker, but I understand bikers. Men 127 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:47,199 Are we talking vroom vroom biker? Are we 128 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:47,699 talking 129 00:04:48,719 --> 00:04:51,199 biker? Yeah. No. The the the physical pedaling 130 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:52,899 bikers. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They 131 00:04:53,535 --> 00:04:56,254 the men the the competitive bikers, they shave 132 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:58,414 the hair from their legs because it's supposed 133 00:04:58,414 --> 00:04:59,294 to speed them up. 134 00:05:00,014 --> 00:05:02,175 Swimmers do that too. Alright. See? There you 135 00:05:02,175 --> 00:05:03,875 go. Yeah. So is that a culture? 136 00:05:04,254 --> 00:05:06,814 Oh, no. Okay. It's not a culture thing 137 00:05:06,814 --> 00:05:08,610 at all. But you hear that term. It's 138 00:05:08,610 --> 00:05:10,610 a practical term. You hear that term, though. 139 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:12,209 I mean, you hear, like, the culture of 140 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:14,209 you know, in the swimming culture and the 141 00:05:14,209 --> 00:05:16,230 in the biking culture. So is that inappropriate, 142 00:05:16,370 --> 00:05:17,970 or is that just kind of a loose 143 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:20,064 use of the, terminology? I do think it's 144 00:05:20,064 --> 00:05:22,384 appropriate. Okay. We've gone over to terminology now, 145 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:24,704 which actually makes it even more boring. I 146 00:05:24,704 --> 00:05:26,464 I think we've actually managed to get to 147 00:05:26,464 --> 00:05:28,384 that level. Well, you used the word. I 148 00:05:28,384 --> 00:05:29,985 didn't. Well, I'll climb out of dust. I'm 149 00:05:29,985 --> 00:05:32,064 trying hard here. We'll we'll try. Let's go 150 00:05:32,064 --> 00:05:34,625 look at people's bodies and and see what 151 00:05:34,625 --> 00:05:35,365 that's doing. 152 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:39,399 Bodies around the world, a hair or a 153 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:41,959 no? I think it's fascinating that in some 154 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:43,579 cultures, you actually have 155 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:44,379 hair 156 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,139 replacing hair. 157 00:05:46,919 --> 00:05:49,399 Okay. I have no idea what you're talking 158 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:51,995 about. And I don't quite understand the background, 159 00:05:51,995 --> 00:05:54,154 so I I say this respectfully, but the 160 00:05:55,675 --> 00:05:57,134 but Orthodox Jewish women 161 00:05:57,675 --> 00:06:00,495 shave their hair when they get married. Okay. 162 00:06:00,875 --> 00:06:02,634 But but to go out in public, they 163 00:06:02,634 --> 00:06:03,535 wear a wig, 164 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,720 which is a very interesting phenomenon. Yes. Right? 165 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,399 Yes. And I understand the reason for it 166 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:10,240 because out in public, you I guess you 167 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,759 want to look like the rest of the 168 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:13,300 people on the street. Uh-huh. 169 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,120 And if you have You don't wanna draw 170 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,519 attention to yourself. That you shade your hair. 171 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:20,084 Sure. Okay. So you're putting hair on top 172 00:06:20,084 --> 00:06:22,084 of hair that isn't there that would be 173 00:06:22,084 --> 00:06:24,724 there. There's a so there's a cultural slash 174 00:06:24,724 --> 00:06:25,224 religious 175 00:06:25,604 --> 00:06:27,204 aspect to the shaving of it. There's a 176 00:06:27,204 --> 00:06:30,180 religious piece to the cultural behavior. Yes. Sure. 177 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:32,580 Okay. Alright. Well, okay. Yeah. That's kind of 178 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:33,080 interesting. 179 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:35,379 Now, shaving hair off the body is not 180 00:06:35,379 --> 00:06:36,600 like it's not new 181 00:06:37,060 --> 00:06:39,139 and and it's done in many different parts 182 00:06:39,139 --> 00:06:40,740 of the world. And in fact In many 183 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:42,259 different parts of the body too. In many 184 00:06:42,259 --> 00:06:43,939 different parts of the body, which is I'm 185 00:06:43,939 --> 00:06:45,375 kind of going to actually. 186 00:06:45,854 --> 00:06:46,175 That's that's 187 00:06:47,615 --> 00:06:49,055 go ahead. If you choose to have your 188 00:06:49,055 --> 00:06:52,334 imagination run wild, please feel free. Speaking of 189 00:06:52,334 --> 00:06:54,754 running wild, some of the hair that is, 190 00:06:55,375 --> 00:06:57,454 is I mean, like, hair is removed. In 191 00:06:57,454 --> 00:07:00,110 the in The United States, the at least 192 00:07:00,110 --> 00:07:01,250 the younger culture 193 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:03,410 doesn't look at 194 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:07,310 the hairy bodies as being a positive thing. 195 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:09,089 Well, you know, it's 196 00:07:09,949 --> 00:07:12,509 interesting to see these trends. Right? Yeah. 197 00:07:12,830 --> 00:07:13,810 There were times 198 00:07:14,144 --> 00:07:14,545 where, 199 00:07:15,024 --> 00:07:17,185 facial hair on men was like something you 200 00:07:17,185 --> 00:07:18,964 didn't have. Like, in the 1950s. 201 00:07:19,425 --> 00:07:21,264 Well, the the business, the whole business thing 202 00:07:21,264 --> 00:07:22,944 was you couldn't have facial hair. They didn't 203 00:07:22,944 --> 00:07:25,264 shave it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yep. And then 204 00:07:25,264 --> 00:07:27,584 it became fashionable. Now it's very fashionable. Well, 205 00:07:27,584 --> 00:07:29,524 also in the sixties in the counterculture, 206 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:32,600 it was almost a mandatory thing. If you 207 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,360 could grow hair on your face at all, 208 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,480 you were growing hair on your face. Well, 209 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,240 hence the name of the show, you know, 210 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,560 the Broadway show. Yes. Also long hair off 211 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,680 of the show. It was a celebration of 212 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,085 long hair on on men. It wasn't a 213 00:07:43,085 --> 00:07:45,324 feminine look at all. No. But women also 214 00:07:45,324 --> 00:07:47,324 had long hair at that time. So they 215 00:07:47,324 --> 00:07:48,625 were and and 216 00:07:49,805 --> 00:07:52,384 and I and other things, but we will 217 00:07:52,605 --> 00:07:54,785 just kinda slide right on by that. 218 00:07:55,245 --> 00:07:55,745 Okay? 219 00:07:56,365 --> 00:07:58,779 And but they also in the like, in 220 00:07:58,779 --> 00:08:00,220 that time period now I realize that we're 221 00:08:00,220 --> 00:08:02,139 talking fifty years ago, but at that in 222 00:08:02,139 --> 00:08:04,220 that time period in The United States, that 223 00:08:04,220 --> 00:08:05,819 there was no big deal. In fact, there 224 00:08:05,819 --> 00:08:07,040 was actually a masculinity 225 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:09,375 to the to the idea of body hair 226 00:08:09,694 --> 00:08:12,175 on men. And that, you know, the peacock 227 00:08:12,175 --> 00:08:13,935 phenomenon. Right? That is Yeah. That in the 228 00:08:13,935 --> 00:08:14,834 natural world, 229 00:08:15,214 --> 00:08:17,375 the the male of the species is usually 230 00:08:17,375 --> 00:08:19,721 the one that's Typically, the gaudy and dressed 231 00:08:19,721 --> 00:08:21,314 up Bigger plumage. Right. 232 00:08:21,629 --> 00:08:23,470 Right. My, yeah, my plumage is bigger than 233 00:08:23,470 --> 00:08:26,189 your plumage. So that's the idea. Yeah. It 234 00:08:26,189 --> 00:08:26,689 is. 235 00:08:27,149 --> 00:08:29,470 It's like, well, the the female, you know, 236 00:08:29,470 --> 00:08:31,490 peacock is looking around and she's saying, 237 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:34,910 he he's got bigger plumage than the other 238 00:08:34,910 --> 00:08:36,794 guy. That's that's what I want. Now it 239 00:08:36,954 --> 00:08:39,034 but you take other cultures, other parts of 240 00:08:39,034 --> 00:08:41,595 the world, we're actually I'm sorry. I said 241 00:08:41,595 --> 00:08:43,914 female peacock, that's like an oxymoron. What do 242 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:46,574 they call? Pehens? Pehens. Pehens. Pehens. Right. Yes. 243 00:08:46,714 --> 00:08:48,799 Yes. Because that's our expertise, both of us. 244 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:50,309 We're The swaviar. 245 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:55,559 Biological naturalists, right, of course. And in other 246 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,940 parts of the world, the 247 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,360 body hair, facial hair, it's just not as 248 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,664 prevalent because of who they are. I mean, 249 00:09:03,884 --> 00:09:05,105 the the genetic background 250 00:09:05,565 --> 00:09:07,485 that but it it in some ways, it's 251 00:09:07,485 --> 00:09:09,825 there, but you don't get the the big 252 00:09:09,884 --> 00:09:12,125 Paul Bunyan type of growth on the face 253 00:09:12,125 --> 00:09:12,784 in men 254 00:09:13,164 --> 00:09:14,625 in other parts of the world. 255 00:09:15,004 --> 00:09:16,304 Yeah. I mean, I think that's 256 00:09:16,764 --> 00:09:17,264 different 257 00:09:17,660 --> 00:09:18,160 biological 258 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:19,920 aspects of of ethnicity. 259 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:22,139 Right. So but but my question then is 260 00:09:22,379 --> 00:09:24,860 so so is a culture going to say 261 00:09:24,860 --> 00:09:27,440 this is preferred because that's the biological 262 00:09:27,740 --> 00:09:30,379 reason behind it and therefore it becomes preferred, 263 00:09:30,379 --> 00:09:32,774 or is it just being preferred because it's 264 00:09:33,014 --> 00:09:33,514 preferred? 265 00:09:34,535 --> 00:09:35,975 Or or do I have no idea what 266 00:09:35,975 --> 00:09:37,835 I'm saying? So when you shave, 267 00:09:38,615 --> 00:09:40,295 do you shave in front of a mirror 268 00:09:40,295 --> 00:09:41,115 in the bathroom? 269 00:09:42,215 --> 00:09:43,434 Yes. Okay. 270 00:09:43,894 --> 00:09:45,575 By the way, I'm not answering your question 271 00:09:45,575 --> 00:09:47,355 because I noticed that. Yes. 272 00:09:48,509 --> 00:09:50,430 So I remember one time I was thinking 273 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:52,990 in that, those moments in your life where 274 00:09:52,990 --> 00:09:55,070 you think, like, it doesn't really matter what 275 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:57,550 I do, right, because nobody's noticing me anyway. 276 00:09:57,550 --> 00:10:01,009 Right. Right. So I'm gonna shave, like, just 277 00:10:01,475 --> 00:10:04,435 half my face Yeah. On one side And 278 00:10:04,435 --> 00:10:05,955 leave it. And leave it. And then I'm 279 00:10:05,955 --> 00:10:08,995 gonna shave where my mustache should be, just 280 00:10:08,995 --> 00:10:11,235 the other side. Right. And then I'm gonna 281 00:10:11,235 --> 00:10:13,795 shave one eyebrow. Okay. Right? And then I'm 282 00:10:13,795 --> 00:10:16,295 gonna leave the other eyebrow. Okay. And 283 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:18,960 then you have a choice. And this this 284 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,360 is probably why I I never did this. 285 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,840 I was Although I've thought about it, and 286 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,240 those moments in my life looking back where 287 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,840 I felt like it didn't matter what I 288 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,679 did. Stepping out of the house, nobody's gonna 289 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,215 notice anyway. So 290 00:10:31,615 --> 00:10:33,394 but here's the dilemma I had. 291 00:10:33,774 --> 00:10:36,335 Not that way. Wait. There's a dilemma that 292 00:10:36,335 --> 00:10:38,415 goes on top of this? I remember this. 293 00:10:38,415 --> 00:10:40,815 I can recall this. Okay. The dilemma was, 294 00:10:40,815 --> 00:10:43,375 do I shave all one side so that 295 00:10:43,375 --> 00:10:43,875 it's 296 00:10:44,415 --> 00:10:44,915 symmetrical 297 00:10:45,365 --> 00:10:46,514 so that my 298 00:10:47,299 --> 00:10:49,860 eyebrow and my half mustache and my half 299 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:51,860 beard is all on one side and the 300 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:54,100 other side isn't? So you have symmetry in 301 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:56,759 the asymmetry? Are. Okay. Oh oh, 302 00:10:57,139 --> 00:10:58,980 there's more. Do I go from side to 303 00:10:58,980 --> 00:10:59,480 side? 304 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:01,485 Like, leave the right eyebrow, 305 00:11:02,024 --> 00:11:04,605 but then take off the right mustache, 306 00:11:04,904 --> 00:11:08,044 leaves the left Alternating sides. Alternating sides. Right? 307 00:11:08,424 --> 00:11:10,424 Yeah. And because I had that decision, guess 308 00:11:10,424 --> 00:11:13,144 what I did? Nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because 309 00:11:13,144 --> 00:11:15,870 that would have been weird. I it's that 310 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:18,070 I'm taking that as the only culture that 311 00:11:18,070 --> 00:11:20,789 actually exists in is Johnny Depp in the 312 00:11:20,789 --> 00:11:23,110 Pirates of the Caribbean, movies. Does he do 313 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:25,610 that? Well, he does freakish stuff. So 314 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:28,250 it's a very small culture, 315 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:29,370 that 316 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:33,424 It's a, like, it's a petri dish culture, 317 00:11:33,424 --> 00:11:34,084 I believe. 318 00:11:36,464 --> 00:11:37,605 Anyway, okay. 319 00:11:38,704 --> 00:11:40,625 Well, that's interesting. Now here's a cultural thing. 320 00:11:40,625 --> 00:11:42,225 Thank you for sharing the time in your 321 00:11:42,225 --> 00:11:44,004 life when you were heavy into drugs. 322 00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:48,740 I don't recall what the motivation was. Uh-huh. 323 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:50,420 I'm not gonna say that that's what the 324 00:11:50,420 --> 00:11:53,139 motivation was. Okay. Well, fair enough. You don't 325 00:11:53,139 --> 00:11:54,580 have to to say anything about it. You've 326 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:56,100 already thrown you under the bus on that, 327 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:58,034 I think. So I would say this sounds 328 00:11:58,034 --> 00:11:59,815 like a good time for a break. 329 00:12:00,595 --> 00:12:01,815 We'll be right back. 330 00:12:06,034 --> 00:12:08,195 Got any questions for us? Well, if you 331 00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:09,714 do, there's a couple of ways to get 332 00:12:09,714 --> 00:12:12,100 hold of us. First of all, on email, 333 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,259 our email address is 334 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:17,440 oopscultureshow@gmail.com. 335 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,639 And our handle on Twitter is oops culture 336 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:21,779 show. Pretty clever, 337 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:23,620 So talk to us. 338 00:12:26,634 --> 00:12:28,794 We're in the bathroom. We're shaving. We're in 339 00:12:28,794 --> 00:12:29,695 front of a mirror. 340 00:12:30,315 --> 00:12:32,475 Bathrooms around the world are different. Let's talk 341 00:12:32,475 --> 00:12:33,215 about it because 342 00:12:33,835 --> 00:12:35,774 there's a real cultural piece in there. 343 00:12:37,434 --> 00:12:39,514 Okay. Are there bathrooms around the world that 344 00:12:39,514 --> 00:12:40,899 do not traditionally 345 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:43,759 have mirrors in them? Now the whole thing 346 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:45,920 about a mirror is interesting. Oh, God. He's 347 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,580 not gonna answer. He's just gonna go asunder. 348 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,580 I I don't 349 00:12:53,335 --> 00:12:55,355 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say 350 00:12:56,215 --> 00:12:58,134 Yeah. You don't have mirrors Yeah. In the 351 00:12:58,134 --> 00:12:59,815 bathroom because I think that's where you need 352 00:12:59,815 --> 00:13:01,894 a mirror. Right? Well, that's kinda where I'm 353 00:13:01,894 --> 00:13:04,535 going. No matter what you're doing. Right? Yeah. 354 00:13:04,535 --> 00:13:04,945 You you 355 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:07,029 I think I mean, if you're gonna be 356 00:13:07,029 --> 00:13:08,629 doing these kind of things, if I'm taking 357 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:10,089 a very sharp instrument 358 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:11,990 and I'm bringing it up to my face 359 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:13,690 and neck Or elsewhere. 360 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:16,009 Or especially elsewhere. 361 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:17,769 I am 362 00:13:18,355 --> 00:13:20,615 I am Why is this just called elsewhere? 363 00:13:20,835 --> 00:13:22,514 Okay. Now well, that to be 364 00:13:23,875 --> 00:13:25,634 well, some people it's elsewhere, and some people 365 00:13:25,634 --> 00:13:26,774 it may not be elsewhere. 366 00:13:27,634 --> 00:13:30,695 Some people it's nowhere. If you understand that, 367 00:13:31,475 --> 00:13:31,975 you're 368 00:13:32,330 --> 00:13:33,850 more in need of help than I am. 369 00:13:33,850 --> 00:13:36,009 But let's look at the mirror thing. Oh, 370 00:13:36,009 --> 00:13:37,690 okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Do your mirror 371 00:13:37,690 --> 00:13:39,870 thing. Now mirrors were can reflect, 372 00:13:40,889 --> 00:13:43,309 in Chinese culture, for example. Uh-huh. 373 00:13:43,769 --> 00:13:46,730 You wanna place mirrors carefully because they can 374 00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:47,230 reflect 375 00:13:47,625 --> 00:13:48,365 bad forces 376 00:13:49,065 --> 00:13:49,565 away, 377 00:13:49,945 --> 00:13:52,904 and they can attract good forces in. For 378 00:13:52,904 --> 00:13:53,404 example 379 00:13:53,865 --> 00:13:55,544 Yeah. You know if you're going into a 380 00:13:55,544 --> 00:13:58,024 Cantonese restaurant as opposed to, let's say, a 381 00:13:58,024 --> 00:14:00,044 Zichuan restaurant or a Mandarin 382 00:14:00,665 --> 00:14:03,720 restaurant. You have different cuisines of China. If 383 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,559 you if you walk down the street in 384 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,679 a Chinese neighborhood Uh-huh. You'll know if you 385 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,559 can expect Cantonese food if you see a 386 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,059 mirror 387 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,860 on the back wall of the Chinese restaurant. 388 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:15,419 Okay. 389 00:14:16,334 --> 00:14:18,735 Associated with that often is a a tank 390 00:14:18,735 --> 00:14:20,894 of water or live fish in a tank 391 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:22,654 of water up at the front of the 392 00:14:22,654 --> 00:14:24,654 entrance of the restaurant. And and okay. And 393 00:14:24,654 --> 00:14:26,115 the reason for this is because 394 00:14:26,654 --> 00:14:28,355 in Southern China, Canton 395 00:14:28,735 --> 00:14:29,235 region, 396 00:14:29,589 --> 00:14:33,049 where Cantonese food is. Right? Yeah. Yeah. There's 397 00:14:33,830 --> 00:14:36,870 a traditional belief that there are good forces 398 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:39,750 and bad forces. That's that's pretty ubiquitous throughout 399 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:41,894 all of Chinese culture. Yeah. But that the 400 00:14:42,054 --> 00:14:45,274 good forces can be attracted into the restaurant 401 00:14:45,575 --> 00:14:47,835 by water, and the bad forces 402 00:14:48,295 --> 00:14:49,995 can be deflected out 403 00:14:50,375 --> 00:14:52,455 by a mirror. Okay. So you put the 404 00:14:52,455 --> 00:14:54,054 mirror at the back of the restaurant, so 405 00:14:54,054 --> 00:14:55,990 it pushes all the bad forces out. And 406 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:57,350 you put the tank of water in the 407 00:14:57,350 --> 00:14:59,269 front to attract all the good forces in. 408 00:14:59,269 --> 00:15:01,670 Good luck. Good fortune. I've seen this. I've 409 00:15:01,670 --> 00:15:03,190 seen it. That's right. So if you walk 410 00:15:03,190 --> 00:15:04,710 past a restaurant and you see that kind 411 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:06,009 of architectural 412 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:09,029 arrangement Uh-huh. Chances are it's going to be 413 00:15:09,029 --> 00:15:11,690 a Cantonese menu. Is is this feng shui? 414 00:15:12,115 --> 00:15:14,595 This is related to feng shui. Okay. Yes. 415 00:15:14,595 --> 00:15:17,335 Yes. And and we should, you know, mention 416 00:15:17,555 --> 00:15:19,955 to the listeners that feng shui is is 417 00:15:19,955 --> 00:15:22,754 this ancient Chinese belief that there are forces, 418 00:15:22,754 --> 00:15:24,434 good and evil, out there and that the 419 00:15:24,434 --> 00:15:25,654 placement of objects, 420 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:28,529 not just mirrors, but the placement of objects. 421 00:15:28,990 --> 00:15:30,990 Plants and and the the fish tank that 422 00:15:30,990 --> 00:15:32,910 you were talking about, water Right. Things like 423 00:15:32,910 --> 00:15:36,429 that. Right? Will either attract or deflect. Right. 424 00:15:36,429 --> 00:15:38,610 So where you place something is very important. 425 00:15:39,004 --> 00:15:41,725 We always tell, for example, Western business people 426 00:15:41,725 --> 00:15:43,164 when they go to China, if you're invited 427 00:15:43,164 --> 00:15:45,085 into somebody's office and you see a lovely 428 00:15:45,085 --> 00:15:47,325 jade object on the desk Yeah. 429 00:15:47,965 --> 00:15:49,884 You don't pick it up and admire it 430 00:15:49,884 --> 00:15:51,720 and then put it back down. Right. Because 431 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,480 you may have put it back down in 432 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,720 such a way where it's it's different from 433 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,720 the way it was placed. And and the 434 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,059 way it was originally placed was 435 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:03,080 very thoughtful Uh-huh. And and it was done 436 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,700 according to Feng Shui practices. 437 00:16:05,144 --> 00:16:07,785 Oh. So you may have just deflected all 438 00:16:07,785 --> 00:16:10,445 that person's good fortune out the 439 00:16:11,065 --> 00:16:13,305 out the proverbial window. If you so if 440 00:16:13,305 --> 00:16:14,925 you in other words, if you're trying 441 00:16:15,384 --> 00:16:17,065 if you're trying to do business with this 442 00:16:17,065 --> 00:16:18,745 person in some form that you're it's probably 443 00:16:18,745 --> 00:16:20,040 not a good thing. Not a good thing 444 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,200 to Or even just personal relationship with the 445 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,200 person, they're probably not happy about that. No. 446 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,200 No. No. No. Okay. Then well, that would 447 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,639 be a pretty good reason to know that, 448 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:29,240 I would say. Yeah. Or at the very 449 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,759 least, you know what kind of menu to 450 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:32,940 expect when you walk into the highest restaurant. 451 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,580 Absolutely. 452 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,019 A large one. 453 00:16:38,095 --> 00:16:38,495 Okay. 454 00:16:38,894 --> 00:16:40,735 That's good. Now if the if the mirror 455 00:16:40,735 --> 00:16:42,654 is on the back wall of an Italian 456 00:16:42,654 --> 00:16:44,274 restaurant, what does that tell us? 457 00:16:44,575 --> 00:16:46,735 They're sit they're serving Cantonese food. I don't 458 00:16:46,735 --> 00:16:48,095 think it's an issue. You know, I don't 459 00:16:48,095 --> 00:16:49,839 think there's a cultural piece to that. They 460 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:51,440 may have just enjoyed the fact that they 461 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,279 wanted a mirror up there. Okay. There you 462 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:55,199 go. It doesn't have the cultural significance that 463 00:16:55,199 --> 00:16:57,759 it has in in China. Somehow, we got 464 00:16:57,759 --> 00:16:59,759 out of the bathroom and into the Italian 465 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,759 restaurant. How we did. But if they they 466 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:03,600 probably have a bathroom, so let's go back 467 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,099 in. 468 00:17:04,534 --> 00:17:06,534 It's Well, you know, and if you do 469 00:17:06,534 --> 00:17:08,214 that in the in the in the in 470 00:17:08,214 --> 00:17:10,454 the bathroom at the Chinese restaurant, it doesn't 471 00:17:10,454 --> 00:17:12,134 matter how you do it. Right? It it's 472 00:17:12,134 --> 00:17:13,674 kind of a it's a western. 473 00:17:14,294 --> 00:17:16,054 And if you're western, you're you're you're familiar 474 00:17:16,054 --> 00:17:17,869 with it. But just look at the difference. 475 00:17:17,869 --> 00:17:20,049 For example, if you went into a Japanese 476 00:17:20,269 --> 00:17:22,950 bathroom Yeah. It would be a whole other 477 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:25,309 Now you're talking about one in in a 478 00:17:25,309 --> 00:17:26,990 residence or you're talking about one in a 479 00:17:27,069 --> 00:17:27,890 at a business? 480 00:17:28,750 --> 00:17:30,429 In a residence. In a residence. I think 481 00:17:30,429 --> 00:17:32,515 in a residence. Okay. Probably you'd see this 482 00:17:32,515 --> 00:17:34,934 more frequently. It's not that you wouldn't see 483 00:17:35,075 --> 00:17:37,575 it elsewhere as well. Okay. So the Japanese 484 00:17:37,714 --> 00:17:39,714 because I have a certain familiarity with the 485 00:17:39,714 --> 00:17:42,674 Japanese toilet, and and it's different. You do? 486 00:17:42,674 --> 00:17:44,434 I do. Do you have one at home? 487 00:17:44,434 --> 00:17:45,955 Well, it was a long night. There was 488 00:17:45,955 --> 00:17:47,029 a lot of sake. 489 00:17:48,210 --> 00:17:50,289 There was in The United States, we think 490 00:17:50,289 --> 00:17:51,990 of the Japanese as very Western 491 00:17:52,369 --> 00:17:53,730 in their and and I mean, I and 492 00:17:53,730 --> 00:17:55,570 I know we're really wrong with that, but 493 00:17:55,570 --> 00:17:56,930 what we think of them in in a 494 00:17:56,930 --> 00:18:00,075 Western way, so our first not being That's 495 00:18:00,075 --> 00:18:02,315 oops your culture show. Oops your culture show. 496 00:18:02,315 --> 00:18:02,815 Absolutely. 497 00:18:03,355 --> 00:18:04,575 It's if you 498 00:18:05,515 --> 00:18:06,795 are if you're going there and you go 499 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:08,894 in to use a toilet, 500 00:18:09,755 --> 00:18:11,295 you you may encounter 501 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,559 what would be something far beyond what we 502 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:17,320 would have here in The United States. You 503 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,539 have to know how to manage 504 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,440 this nuclear device. Yes. Yes. With all these 505 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,779 big buttons and noise making machines. 506 00:18:25,085 --> 00:18:27,244 I believe I believe it's actually equipped to 507 00:18:27,244 --> 00:18:28,924 defend you in court if you need it 508 00:18:28,924 --> 00:18:31,164 to. You just press the attorney button. That's 509 00:18:31,164 --> 00:18:32,305 right. Right. And 510 00:18:32,765 --> 00:18:33,585 and which one? 511 00:18:34,204 --> 00:18:37,325 It's but it heats. It heats itself. It 512 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:40,130 heats your bottom. Yeah. It makes noises to 513 00:18:40,130 --> 00:18:42,130 cover up the noises that are causing be 514 00:18:42,130 --> 00:18:45,269 making. Uh-huh. Associated with bathroom use. Yes. 515 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:46,950 It has deodorizers 516 00:18:47,569 --> 00:18:48,230 of different 517 00:18:48,529 --> 00:18:51,190 aromas that you can press the buttons for. 518 00:18:51,934 --> 00:18:53,694 What else does it do? It shoots up 519 00:18:53,694 --> 00:18:56,095 water. It's like it's like it's like the 520 00:18:56,095 --> 00:18:57,234 Bellagio Waterworks 521 00:18:57,535 --> 00:18:58,914 in in in Vegas. 522 00:18:59,934 --> 00:19:01,795 I think it actually has a slot machine 523 00:19:01,934 --> 00:19:03,555 involved also. It's got 524 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:04,650 synchronized 525 00:19:05,109 --> 00:19:05,609 synchronized 526 00:19:05,910 --> 00:19:06,410 fountains 527 00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:09,289 coming up at different times in different directions. 528 00:19:10,069 --> 00:19:12,950 I think. And and I'm already feeling very 529 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:14,710 good about that. It's Oh, you're having a 530 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:15,529 great time. 531 00:19:16,755 --> 00:19:18,515 It's it's it's why people just don't ever 532 00:19:18,515 --> 00:19:20,195 come out. You want to stay in there 533 00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:22,914 if you really Right. After after the fountain 534 00:19:22,914 --> 00:19:24,615 show, you're expecting, you know, 535 00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:27,734 the the media. Come out. And it's warm. 536 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:29,734 It's it's like, this is great. 537 00:19:31,519 --> 00:19:33,279 And yet, it it the interesting thing to 538 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:35,380 me too is that it it's so culturally 539 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:36,980 specific to Japan. 540 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,640 Overall, it it hasn't spread. Well, I was 541 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,799 I saw one. I actually actually used one 542 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,285 where you choose the music that you wanted. 543 00:19:45,365 --> 00:19:47,125 Yeah. Okay. To cover the sound. Oh, I've 544 00:19:47,125 --> 00:19:49,285 heard that too. Yeah. And it wide range. 545 00:19:49,285 --> 00:19:50,965 Well, then you had a whole choice. Yeah. 546 00:19:50,965 --> 00:19:52,884 I mean, there was It's like iTunes. It 547 00:19:52,884 --> 00:19:53,625 was classical. 548 00:19:54,805 --> 00:19:57,224 It was there was it was 549 00:19:57,605 --> 00:19:58,984 it was Asian pop. 550 00:20:00,549 --> 00:20:03,190 What are you doing? So what what am 551 00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:05,190 I about to do is you're going to 552 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:05,690 choose, 553 00:20:06,049 --> 00:20:07,910 based on that? So the first Is that 554 00:20:07,910 --> 00:20:08,730 you did the 555 00:20:09,109 --> 00:20:09,690 first criteria that 556 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:12,470 I had was how long am I going 557 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:13,529 to be in here? 558 00:20:16,205 --> 00:20:18,144 Well, depends. Did you stop 559 00:20:18,525 --> 00:20:21,085 for the Cantonese food Well, it before you 560 00:20:21,085 --> 00:20:21,985 came there. 561 00:20:23,884 --> 00:20:27,325 It immediately reduced my choices because Beethoven's fifth 562 00:20:27,325 --> 00:20:29,005 was out. You know, I'm not 563 00:20:30,779 --> 00:20:33,340 I think the eighteen twelve overture would be 564 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:34,240 a good one, 565 00:20:34,539 --> 00:20:36,859 mainly with the cannons on. If I if 566 00:20:36,859 --> 00:20:37,359 I 567 00:20:41,660 --> 00:20:42,960 if I'd had the 568 00:20:43,420 --> 00:20:44,080 the choice. 569 00:20:45,194 --> 00:20:46,654 You do have a choice. 570 00:20:47,355 --> 00:20:49,194 I would've I would've gone straight to the 571 00:20:49,194 --> 00:20:51,194 end of the eighteen twelve. Right at the 572 00:20:51,194 --> 00:20:53,515 end. You just go straight to the end 573 00:20:53,515 --> 00:20:55,595 with the cannons and be out of there. 574 00:20:55,595 --> 00:20:57,595 They just or the bells. The bells might 575 00:20:57,595 --> 00:20:58,335 help too. 576 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,160 Do you know that when Tchaikovsky wrote that, 577 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,720 he actually wrote in his score. Toilet at 578 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,119 the time. Maybe he was or standing in 579 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,740 the middle of the river in Moscow. 580 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:12,859 Yeah. I think in the score, he actually 581 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,525 says that there should be bells being rung 582 00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:18,085 by cherubs from the heavens. Is that right? 583 00:21:18,085 --> 00:21:20,005 Yeah. So you couldn't pay them anybody in 584 00:21:20,005 --> 00:21:22,085 the musicians union. No. But Yeah. But you 585 00:21:22,085 --> 00:21:23,845 had to pay the cherubs. How can you 586 00:21:23,845 --> 00:21:25,845 get cherubs in the there's no cherubs in 587 00:21:25,845 --> 00:21:27,785 the union. Not the last time I looked. 588 00:21:30,049 --> 00:21:30,549 It 589 00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:33,730 well, somebody has to get cherubs to work. 590 00:21:33,730 --> 00:21:35,250 You know? I mean, come on. They it's 591 00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,650 been slow. Skipped the 1812, and I think 592 00:21:37,650 --> 00:21:39,809 I I think I chose, given the fact 593 00:21:39,809 --> 00:21:41,250 that I wasn't planning to be in there 594 00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:42,585 for a very long time I see. Yes. 595 00:21:42,585 --> 00:21:44,365 I think I chose some interesting, 596 00:21:45,784 --> 00:21:48,184 Asian pop. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I figured I 597 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:49,904 was in Japan learning. We kind of get 598 00:21:50,024 --> 00:21:51,944 that that that name for it goes along 599 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:54,585 with the entire experience, I would say. Asian 600 00:21:54,585 --> 00:21:55,565 pop. Yep. 601 00:21:56,024 --> 00:21:56,345 When, 602 00:21:57,950 --> 00:22:00,589 I was, would be hoping Inigada DaVita was 603 00:22:00,589 --> 00:22:02,369 in there, actually. That well, 604 00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:03,490 again, 605 00:22:03,789 --> 00:22:05,230 how long you did it? Well, there you 606 00:22:05,230 --> 00:22:07,549 go. That's Wasn't that the longest popular song 607 00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:08,049 ever 608 00:22:08,430 --> 00:22:10,109 written there? There may be longer now, but 609 00:22:10,109 --> 00:22:11,490 it's but it's for a long 610 00:22:11,869 --> 00:22:13,424 something like twenty two minutes. Yeah. 611 00:22:13,904 --> 00:22:16,164 Yeah. What what how long was it, Torin? 612 00:22:16,625 --> 00:22:18,384 You how long was In A Gada de 613 00:22:18,384 --> 00:22:19,904 Vita? I will take a look. Not the 614 00:22:19,904 --> 00:22:21,985 Simpsons version. Or how long have you been 615 00:22:21,985 --> 00:22:23,285 in the A Gada de Gada. 616 00:22:25,424 --> 00:22:27,904 Vita's Gaden. They I think they just pulled 617 00:22:27,904 --> 00:22:29,589 the plug on those guys anyhow. They were 618 00:22:29,589 --> 00:22:31,990 pretty stoned when they recorded that. So there 619 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:33,909 you go. So, anyhow, I'm still in the 620 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:36,629 bathroom in Japan. Alright. Alright. Okay. I'm seeing 621 00:22:36,629 --> 00:22:38,950 seventeen minutes. Seven. A little over seventeen minutes. 622 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:41,190 Seventeen minutes. Okay. I thought it was longer 623 00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:44,125 than that, but alright. Well, depending on the 624 00:22:44,125 --> 00:22:45,804 Cantonese food you had the night before, you 625 00:22:45,804 --> 00:22:47,484 might have to run it up again. Yeah. 626 00:22:47,484 --> 00:22:48,845 You might have to go on a second 627 00:22:48,845 --> 00:22:50,224 version of that. Again. 628 00:22:51,724 --> 00:22:52,304 Right? Loop 629 00:22:52,765 --> 00:22:54,365 looping in a got at the Vita is 630 00:22:54,365 --> 00:22:56,065 not pretty. Not at all. 631 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:59,029 Okay. But now everybody wants to buy a 632 00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:00,970 jacket and toilet, by the way. 633 00:23:01,509 --> 00:23:02,970 Let's take a break. 634 00:23:09,509 --> 00:23:11,529 While listening to this, you may think, 635 00:23:11,910 --> 00:23:14,105 hey, You know, I wonder well, if you 636 00:23:14,105 --> 00:23:15,944 have a question like that you wanna ask 637 00:23:15,944 --> 00:23:17,785 us, there's a couple ways you can do 638 00:23:17,785 --> 00:23:20,684 it. One would be through email, which is 639 00:23:20,744 --> 00:23:22,984 oopscultureshow@gmail.com. 640 00:23:22,984 --> 00:23:27,289 That's 00pscultureshow@gmail.com. 641 00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:29,630 And then there's also our handle on Twitter, 642 00:23:29,769 --> 00:23:31,950 which is oops culture show. 643 00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:32,990 That's 644 00:23:33,769 --> 00:23:36,190 o o p s culture show. 645 00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:39,309 I know. I know. It's not original, but 646 00:23:39,369 --> 00:23:41,005 but it works. Okay? 647 00:23:43,144 --> 00:23:45,224 Everyone wants to buy a Japanese toilet now. 648 00:23:45,224 --> 00:23:46,904 Well, I would I mean, that's the thing. 649 00:23:46,904 --> 00:23:49,865 That's the thing. I can't imagine because we're 650 00:23:49,865 --> 00:23:51,085 just we're just beginning 651 00:23:51,544 --> 00:23:52,845 with Japanese bathrooms. 652 00:23:53,419 --> 00:23:55,259 The the the toilet aspect of it is 653 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,179 just the beginning. We were renovating one of 654 00:23:57,179 --> 00:23:59,259 our bathrooms a few years ago, and I 655 00:23:59,259 --> 00:24:00,799 toyed with the idea of just 656 00:24:01,099 --> 00:24:02,000 Of going Japanese 657 00:24:02,539 --> 00:24:05,039 culture No. I didn't want a Japanese culture 658 00:24:05,434 --> 00:24:07,994 bathroom. I just wanted a Japanese toilet because 659 00:24:07,994 --> 00:24:09,434 it was fun. Picking a fight here or 660 00:24:09,434 --> 00:24:09,934 what? 661 00:24:10,394 --> 00:24:12,954 So I went online Okay. To see. And 662 00:24:12,954 --> 00:24:13,535 you could, 663 00:24:14,315 --> 00:24:16,234 you know, you can get them no matter 664 00:24:16,234 --> 00:24:17,595 where. You don't have to be in Japan. 665 00:24:17,595 --> 00:24:18,095 Right. 666 00:24:18,889 --> 00:24:21,609 Relative to a western toilet, they they're very 667 00:24:21,609 --> 00:24:23,849 expensive. But fair enough, they have all these 668 00:24:23,849 --> 00:24:25,929 bells and whistles that are just so much 669 00:24:25,929 --> 00:24:27,929 fun. I just would think on on anything 670 00:24:27,929 --> 00:24:30,190 from, like, middle top end 671 00:24:30,490 --> 00:24:30,990 up, 672 00:24:31,365 --> 00:24:33,125 you would start seeing so many more of 673 00:24:33,125 --> 00:24:34,724 them, and I don't know that that's happening 674 00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:36,644 in this country in The United States. I 675 00:24:36,644 --> 00:24:38,005 think it may be in other parts of 676 00:24:38,005 --> 00:24:39,125 the world it is, but I don't I 677 00:24:39,125 --> 00:24:40,884 don't see it happening in The United States. 678 00:24:40,964 --> 00:24:42,724 Think it it should because it you think 679 00:24:42,724 --> 00:24:45,269 it would because it's just great. Yeah. Right? 680 00:24:45,349 --> 00:24:46,950 Yeah. Yeah. Here's another thing. And there there 681 00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:49,430 are probably so many aspects of Japanese culture 682 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:51,430 that I wonder, you know, you would have 683 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:53,269 you would have expected them to have caught 684 00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:53,769 on 685 00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:56,809 elsewhere. Yeah. But but they didn't, you know, 686 00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:59,509 like the the hot towel that you get 687 00:24:59,509 --> 00:25:01,404 at the beginning of the meal, of a 688 00:25:01,404 --> 00:25:03,265 Japanese meal. Oh, right. For sure. 689 00:25:03,565 --> 00:25:06,924 It is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Right? Yeah. 690 00:25:06,924 --> 00:25:09,404 It it soothes you. You get this hot 691 00:25:09,404 --> 00:25:10,384 towel. You can 692 00:25:10,684 --> 00:25:12,444 pat your you know, wash off your hands. 693 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:13,585 It's it's clean. 694 00:25:13,950 --> 00:25:16,269 You can't guarantee that everybody who walks into 695 00:25:16,269 --> 00:25:18,029 your restaurant is gonna use the bathroom to 696 00:25:18,029 --> 00:25:20,349 clean their hands. Right. Many people don't. I 697 00:25:20,349 --> 00:25:22,750 mean, I go into I do. If I'm 698 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:24,509 taking this I live in New York City. 699 00:25:24,509 --> 00:25:26,269 If I take the subway somewhere, the first 700 00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:27,549 thing I do after I get out of 701 00:25:27,549 --> 00:25:29,825 the subway is use a hand sanitizer or 702 00:25:29,825 --> 00:25:32,545 wash my hands, but maybe not everybody does. 703 00:25:32,545 --> 00:25:33,045 Right? 704 00:25:33,505 --> 00:25:35,984 So the hot towel comes, and it's it's 705 00:25:35,984 --> 00:25:36,484 wonderful. 706 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:38,865 It it just soothes you. It cleans you. 707 00:25:38,865 --> 00:25:41,125 It's why didn't that catch on 708 00:25:41,585 --> 00:25:42,644 everywhere else? 709 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:45,159 Wouldn't you love that if you walked into 710 00:25:45,159 --> 00:25:46,220 a French restaurant 711 00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:47,960 to sit down and just I would think 712 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,240 that would be great for something. Get a 713 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,659 nice hot towel. Yeah. I would absolutely. 714 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,419 I think And a shave. 715 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,380 And a shave and a body shave, perhaps. 716 00:25:56,919 --> 00:25:57,419 Yeah. 717 00:25:57,894 --> 00:25:59,575 Well, in the right French restaurant, I think 718 00:25:59,575 --> 00:26:00,634 that would work well. 719 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:04,214 Or an Italian restaurant. Or an Italian 720 00:26:05,174 --> 00:26:06,954 yeah. We probably shouldn't do that. 721 00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:09,654 So we started to talk about this, but 722 00:26:09,654 --> 00:26:11,654 what I don't understand is I don't I 723 00:26:11,654 --> 00:26:13,355 don't see how the 724 00:26:14,099 --> 00:26:17,140 especially the Western world, which would seem meaning 725 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:19,720 The United States, but Canada and and Australia 726 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:24,019 through Western Europe. Western Europe. I I don't 727 00:26:24,019 --> 00:26:25,880 know why they haven't leaped 728 00:26:26,424 --> 00:26:28,984 to the Japanese bathroom style. It seems to 729 00:26:28,984 --> 00:26:31,704 me to be I mean, and maybe in 730 00:26:31,704 --> 00:26:32,204 some 731 00:26:32,744 --> 00:26:35,384 little ways they have in some few little 732 00:26:35,384 --> 00:26:37,704 pockets. It is available, and I'm sure people 733 00:26:37,704 --> 00:26:39,545 buy it. But but why hasn't it been 734 00:26:39,545 --> 00:26:42,049 like this is great. Where Why hasn't it 735 00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:43,190 replaced the current 736 00:26:43,570 --> 00:26:45,570 toilet? Like, why can't I go to Home 737 00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:46,070 Depot 738 00:26:46,849 --> 00:26:47,250 and, 739 00:26:47,809 --> 00:26:51,329 and just order my my Japanese style toilet 740 00:26:51,329 --> 00:26:52,769 with all the bells and whistles? I know 741 00:26:52,769 --> 00:26:55,250 you can get one that has certain things 742 00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:57,625 that will that will work with it. But 743 00:26:57,625 --> 00:27:00,204 mainly, they're all special orders, and 744 00:27:00,825 --> 00:27:02,505 I just don't think it's happening. And to 745 00:27:02,505 --> 00:27:03,865 me, it would sound like it should be 746 00:27:03,865 --> 00:27:04,365 ubiquitous. 747 00:27:05,545 --> 00:27:07,484 Why wouldn't you want to do this? 748 00:27:07,785 --> 00:27:09,910 Yeah. You know, I I think there's lots 749 00:27:09,910 --> 00:27:11,750 of reasons. Right? Okay. But I also think 750 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:14,470 there's a cultural reason. Yeah. Economics, it costs 751 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:16,549 a whole lot more. These contraptions are just 752 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:18,630 more expensive. Sure. Right? So it's only going 753 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:20,070 to appeal to a certain group who can 754 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:21,670 actually afford it. Yeah. But that is the 755 00:27:21,670 --> 00:27:23,190 the supply and demand thing. So the more 756 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:24,654 the people want it, the the it would 757 00:27:24,654 --> 00:27:26,494 go down. But, yeah, there's still gonna be 758 00:27:26,494 --> 00:27:27,934 a certain part of that. Right? But I 759 00:27:27,934 --> 00:27:30,654 think the cultural piece to this Yep. Is 760 00:27:30,654 --> 00:27:31,154 that 761 00:27:31,535 --> 00:27:33,234 we don't wanna hang out in the bathroom. 762 00:27:34,095 --> 00:27:35,714 I think it's a Puritan thing. 763 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:36,980 I I think, 764 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,460 you know, we just wanna get in there, 765 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:41,859 do our business, and get out. All Puritan 766 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:43,839 influenced. I mean, I know the country as 767 00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,000 a whole is. I get that. Yeah. But, 768 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,579 I mean, 769 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,480 because we've got the, you know, the parts 770 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,234 of the country that we are much much 771 00:27:50,234 --> 00:27:52,714 warmer and and come from So I I 772 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:55,035 think bathroom manufacturers struggle with this problem all 773 00:27:55,035 --> 00:27:56,795 the time because they really wanna make a 774 00:27:56,795 --> 00:27:59,035 bathroom so that, you know, you wanna hang 775 00:27:59,035 --> 00:28:01,295 out in there. Right. Right? Right. And so 776 00:28:01,355 --> 00:28:02,095 there's always 777 00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:04,250 new features that Is it because, like, we're 778 00:28:04,369 --> 00:28:04,869 we 779 00:28:05,569 --> 00:28:07,170 but this doesn't seem to fit. We don't 780 00:28:07,170 --> 00:28:08,769 find our pleasure in the bathroom. We do 781 00:28:08,769 --> 00:28:11,089 it. We find our pleasure. Sure we don't. 782 00:28:11,089 --> 00:28:12,630 Sure we don't. Well, 783 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,509 then there's a whole lot of other contraptions 784 00:28:15,569 --> 00:28:16,789 that we need to create. 785 00:28:18,505 --> 00:28:19,085 I've got 786 00:28:19,384 --> 00:28:21,865 a feeling the Japanese understand this too. Maybe 787 00:28:21,865 --> 00:28:23,785 they've come up with a new version. I'm 788 00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:25,644 gonna think that's possible. Yeah. 789 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,920 The thing the first thing that struck me 790 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,599 was, well, okay, but what do we do? 791 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,680 We we wanna we run into a bathroom. 792 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,819 Usually, we're late 793 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,859 wherever we're going, whether it's out recreationally 794 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,394 or business or work. We're we're probably running 795 00:28:44,394 --> 00:28:46,075 a little bit late. We wanna get in 796 00:28:46,075 --> 00:28:47,595 there. We wanna get whatever we have to 797 00:28:47,595 --> 00:28:49,634 do done, get out of there, and move 798 00:28:49,634 --> 00:28:51,455 on. Right. But that 799 00:28:51,994 --> 00:28:53,755 that would only work if we if it 800 00:28:53,755 --> 00:28:55,674 wasn't coming from a if it was coming 801 00:28:55,674 --> 00:28:57,049 from an agriculturally 802 00:28:57,429 --> 00:28:59,589 driven country. See, I don't think that's totally 803 00:28:59,589 --> 00:29:01,669 it either because the Japanese, you know, you 804 00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:03,829 live in Tokyo, you're living a modern rushed 805 00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:06,470 life too. It's a very rushed life. So 806 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:08,649 that doesn't work. No. So 807 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:10,009 we're still going, 808 00:29:11,035 --> 00:29:13,195 I mean, I get the puritanical side. Sure. 809 00:29:13,195 --> 00:29:15,275 You can use it. We we will look. 810 00:29:15,275 --> 00:29:16,494 We'll ditch puritanical 811 00:29:16,795 --> 00:29:19,035 for this is really cool in a heartbeat. 812 00:29:19,035 --> 00:29:21,214 I mean, that's what's made Silicon Valley. 813 00:29:21,674 --> 00:29:22,174 And 814 00:29:22,555 --> 00:29:24,154 and and there's a lot of stock and 815 00:29:24,154 --> 00:29:25,835 money to be made in in in that 816 00:29:25,835 --> 00:29:26,430 whole industry. 817 00:29:30,430 --> 00:29:32,850 Continuing progress of of technology, 818 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:35,230 obviously, the Japanese are on the cutting edge 819 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:37,710 of that also. Maybe we're complete can only 820 00:29:37,710 --> 00:29:39,570 get better. Maybe we're complete 821 00:29:39,974 --> 00:29:41,974 completely wrong. Maybe you and I have been 822 00:29:41,974 --> 00:29:42,795 so isolated 823 00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:45,734 that we've we haven't noticed for yourself here 824 00:29:45,734 --> 00:29:47,515 for a second. That we haven't noticed that 825 00:29:48,214 --> 00:29:49,914 everybody Oh, it's happening? It's happening. 826 00:29:50,454 --> 00:29:52,694 It's happening. Well, I don't know. Is it 827 00:29:52,694 --> 00:29:54,839 happening? Well, I don't know. What do you 828 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:55,960 and I know? Well, I don't know. You're 829 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,099 the cultural expert. 830 00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:59,500 I don't think it's happening. 831 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,200 Well, I don't think it's happening either there. 832 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,660 It's not happening then. 833 00:30:10,445 --> 00:30:12,445 I think I think we're pretty safe. I 834 00:30:12,445 --> 00:30:13,825 think we're pretty safe 835 00:30:14,285 --> 00:30:17,164 to say that it is not happening on 836 00:30:17,164 --> 00:30:17,664 any 837 00:30:18,365 --> 00:30:21,644 large or medium scale. Okay? Well, you know, 838 00:30:21,644 --> 00:30:21,805 the 839 00:30:22,525 --> 00:30:24,359 ask the same question, like, how come 840 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:25,900 saunas haven't, 841 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:28,380 you know, become ubiquitous 842 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,319 as the way they are, let's say, in 843 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,119 Finland or or in the Baltics? Or you 844 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,679 you get into the Scandinavian countries and things 845 00:30:36,679 --> 00:30:38,039 like that. I mean, people love 846 00:30:38,679 --> 00:30:41,085 one we've we've adopted the, 847 00:30:41,724 --> 00:30:43,744 the the like, a whirlpool bath 848 00:30:44,285 --> 00:30:46,445 that Very much so. Cell tub. Everybody has 849 00:30:46,445 --> 00:30:48,204 it, but but I've got one. The hot 850 00:30:48,204 --> 00:30:50,464 tub is in a hot tub. Right? Uh-huh. 851 00:30:50,525 --> 00:30:52,204 Though it so that part of our society, 852 00:30:52,204 --> 00:30:54,549 we're like, okay. And so we like, we're 853 00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:55,049 immediately 854 00:30:55,349 --> 00:30:57,669 saying, because see, what does that do? I've 855 00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:58,490 got a Whirlpool 856 00:30:58,869 --> 00:30:59,369 tub 857 00:30:59,909 --> 00:31:02,470 in one of my bathrooms. Nobody wants to 858 00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:03,289 play music. 859 00:31:03,589 --> 00:31:05,909 And well, but they do. They bring their 860 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:07,049 I their I 861 00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:10,365 their iPhone in, and they play music, and 862 00:31:10,365 --> 00:31:12,625 they listen to guess what? Podcasts. 863 00:31:13,085 --> 00:31:15,325 Here's the difference. So Here's the difference. And 864 00:31:15,325 --> 00:31:18,205 I'm guessing that somebody right now could be 865 00:31:18,205 --> 00:31:21,424 sitting in a Whirlpool tub in their bathroom 866 00:31:21,884 --> 00:31:24,799 listening to this podcast right now. Right. And 867 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,900 so why isn't it just structured 868 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:28,799 for them to be able to go in 869 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,160 and in a world where what are they 870 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,140 pushing at us? Artificial intelligence. So the Japanese 871 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:33,779 culture 872 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,700 is very as many Asian cultures are, 873 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,575 very concerned about the group, 874 00:31:40,955 --> 00:31:43,855 about others Right. About my individual 875 00:31:44,315 --> 00:31:44,815 activities 876 00:31:45,195 --> 00:31:46,654 impact on others. 877 00:31:47,595 --> 00:31:48,095 So 878 00:31:48,634 --> 00:31:50,494 in a public bathroom 879 00:31:51,515 --> 00:31:52,015 where 880 00:31:52,339 --> 00:31:53,799 there are lots of others 881 00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,359 Yeah. What I do on the toilet 882 00:31:56,660 --> 00:31:57,559 has to be 883 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:00,339 has to be carefully controlled so that it 884 00:32:00,339 --> 00:32:01,320 doesn't impact 885 00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:04,339 the others. Okay. So we have music. We 886 00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:06,339 have aromas. We have all sorts of things. 887 00:32:06,339 --> 00:32:06,839 Right? 888 00:32:07,565 --> 00:32:10,144 But what we do privately in our house 889 00:32:10,765 --> 00:32:12,704 Yeah. We're not concerned about others. 890 00:32:13,404 --> 00:32:15,984 Well, but And I think that's the reason 891 00:32:16,125 --> 00:32:18,384 it hasn't caught on the way other, 892 00:32:20,204 --> 00:32:22,464 other bathroom pleasure devices like 893 00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:25,649 like warm pools. But but 894 00:32:26,109 --> 00:32:27,069 but they'll sell 895 00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:29,649 who knows how many cans of 896 00:32:29,950 --> 00:32:32,289 air freshener that sit in people's bathrooms. 897 00:32:33,069 --> 00:32:35,789 So clearly, we There's some concern. We are 898 00:32:35,789 --> 00:32:37,955 concerned about what we're going to leave beyond. 899 00:32:38,234 --> 00:32:39,674 To the degree that we're gonna play the 900 00:32:39,674 --> 00:32:40,974 eighty twelve overture. 901 00:32:41,355 --> 00:32:42,095 But I think 902 00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:43,134 I think 903 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,674 but if I do but I do think 904 00:32:45,674 --> 00:32:48,654 people are concerned about that. Sitting next to 905 00:32:48,795 --> 00:32:51,119 a bathroom stall where I suddenly I heard 906 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,039 the cannons and the bells when the heat's 907 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,680 going over. So you know you know what's 908 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,519 going on. I'd be more freaked out. I'd 909 00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,580 be less comfortable. 910 00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:00,740 I wouldn't be more comfortable. 911 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:02,960 I try to get out of there so 912 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,460 fast. 913 00:33:05,794 --> 00:33:06,694 Well, what are you 914 00:33:07,194 --> 00:33:07,694 doing 915 00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:08,694 in 916 00:33:09,194 --> 00:33:09,694 there? 917 00:33:10,194 --> 00:33:12,595 I'd be afraid my music would clash with 918 00:33:12,595 --> 00:33:13,414 someone else's. 919 00:33:13,794 --> 00:33:14,034 That 920 00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:17,575 well, look. There's the courtesy flush. 921 00:33:18,369 --> 00:33:20,690 Right? I mean, that's something that that some 922 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:23,970 people are nice enough to use, which which 923 00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:25,970 which does a couple of things. I mean, 924 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,669 it it can it can cover 925 00:33:28,210 --> 00:33:29,109 other sounds 926 00:33:29,809 --> 00:33:32,210 and and at the same time, move the 927 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,534 progress of the whole process 928 00:33:35,075 --> 00:33:35,575 along 929 00:33:36,115 --> 00:33:37,815 at a more rapid pace 930 00:33:38,115 --> 00:33:39,255 so that the 931 00:33:39,954 --> 00:33:41,734 the results of the process 932 00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:44,694 won't impact other people too much. Concern, 933 00:33:45,154 --> 00:33:45,815 you know, 934 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:48,539 about of the for the other, sure. But 935 00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:50,299 not to the degree in the West that 936 00:33:50,299 --> 00:33:52,140 it is in Asia. I just think in 937 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:54,140 the And I just think fundamentally from a 938 00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:57,180 cultural perspective, that's the reason why this hasn't 939 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:58,779 caught on the way it has caught on. 940 00:33:58,779 --> 00:34:00,595 Well, I mean, you know, 941 00:34:01,055 --> 00:34:02,734 let's let's put it this way. As we 942 00:34:02,734 --> 00:34:04,755 know from the highest levels of this country, 943 00:34:05,295 --> 00:34:07,455 people do a lot of things on their 944 00:34:07,455 --> 00:34:09,635 phone while they're sitting in the bathroom, 945 00:34:10,414 --> 00:34:12,815 in the morning or wherever. Amazed the first 946 00:34:12,815 --> 00:34:15,090 time you walked into a public restroom and, 947 00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:17,329 you know, from a guy's perspective, standing at 948 00:34:17,329 --> 00:34:19,329 the URL and there's another guy next to 949 00:34:19,329 --> 00:34:21,250 you Yes. And he's on the phone talking 950 00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:21,910 to somebody? 951 00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:23,510 Yes. Like, what? 952 00:34:23,809 --> 00:34:26,050 Right. What? I was I was more concerned 953 00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:27,030 when they were FaceTiming. 954 00:34:35,984 --> 00:34:38,005 No. Actually, that would make more sense. 955 00:34:39,025 --> 00:34:41,344 Wait wait a minute. What bathrooms are you 956 00:34:41,344 --> 00:34:44,480 going into? Hold on here. With 957 00:34:44,860 --> 00:34:46,539 like, not that it bothered me because I 958 00:34:46,539 --> 00:34:47,760 was perfectly fine. 959 00:34:48,059 --> 00:34:50,480 I was perfectly fine. But it was, 960 00:34:54,539 --> 00:34:57,974 yeah. Yeah. That is that is strange. Yep. 961 00:34:58,375 --> 00:35:01,434 So strange that it's probably time to take 962 00:35:01,655 --> 00:35:02,635 one last break. 963 00:35:04,215 --> 00:35:06,614 Okay. Listen. The way to get hold of 964 00:35:06,614 --> 00:35:09,974 us is oopscultureshow@gmail.com, 965 00:35:09,974 --> 00:35:13,109 and our Twitter handle is oops culture show. 966 00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:15,269 Whether this is the first episode or the 967 00:35:15,269 --> 00:35:18,230 third episode or whatever episode that you've listened 968 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:20,309 to, if you're still listening at this point, 969 00:35:20,309 --> 00:35:21,989 I think you might like this. And if 970 00:35:21,989 --> 00:35:23,769 you do, you should really subscribe. 971 00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:26,309 Because if you subscribe, these things will just 972 00:35:26,309 --> 00:35:27,734 show up for you, and you can listen 973 00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:29,414 to them whenever you want to. That's the 974 00:35:29,414 --> 00:35:31,734 best way to go, really, honestly. I know 975 00:35:31,734 --> 00:35:34,634 what I'm talking about. Alright? So just subscribe 976 00:35:34,694 --> 00:35:35,434 through iTunes 977 00:35:35,815 --> 00:35:38,934 or through wherever you get your podcasts from. 978 00:35:38,934 --> 00:35:41,199 But do it today. Okay? Subscribe. Thank 979 00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:46,219 you. What I'm what I'm getting to also 980 00:35:46,219 --> 00:35:48,319 with the iPhone or the or whatever, 981 00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:50,960 cellular phone you're using, 982 00:35:51,260 --> 00:35:53,500 when when people are dragging them into the 983 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:56,635 bathroom, they're providing music, they're people are checking 984 00:35:56,635 --> 00:35:59,614 email, they are they are tweeting, they are 985 00:35:59,674 --> 00:36:02,394 Instagram facilities. We need all sorts of things. 986 00:36:02,394 --> 00:36:03,755 And if so, how come that hasn't 987 00:36:04,635 --> 00:36:06,154 It would seem to be It's too much. 988 00:36:06,154 --> 00:36:07,514 I think it's over the top. I just 989 00:36:07,514 --> 00:36:08,875 think though that that we would 990 00:36:09,469 --> 00:36:11,389 how could you not want if you're living 991 00:36:11,389 --> 00:36:13,549 in an area, like, we're in the Northeast 992 00:36:13,549 --> 00:36:15,309 Of The United Northeastern United States. I think 993 00:36:15,309 --> 00:36:16,909 if you could if there was a if 994 00:36:16,909 --> 00:36:18,989 if you could plug your phone into the 995 00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:22,750 maybe there are new versions of Japanese toilets. 996 00:36:22,829 --> 00:36:24,369 In, you they could be wireless. 997 00:36:24,684 --> 00:36:26,605 Or maybe there are new versions of Japanese 998 00:36:26,605 --> 00:36:28,304 toilets now that accommodate technology. 999 00:36:29,164 --> 00:36:30,444 Well, you know, we do have the things 1000 00:36:30,444 --> 00:36:32,204 coming along that and it it all seems 1001 00:36:32,204 --> 00:36:33,644 to be going this way because there's the 1002 00:36:33,644 --> 00:36:34,784 things happening with 1003 00:36:35,164 --> 00:36:36,304 with the home 1004 00:36:36,605 --> 00:36:39,344 that you can you can access from anywhere. 1005 00:36:39,579 --> 00:36:42,219 We have a Siri. We can call Siri 1006 00:36:42,219 --> 00:36:44,619 on our Japanese toilet. We we can talk 1007 00:36:44,619 --> 00:36:47,179 to the toilet. Siri. It'd be the whole 1008 00:36:47,179 --> 00:36:48,799 new twist on doctor Doolittle. 1009 00:36:50,859 --> 00:36:53,605 It'd be doctor do a lot more, actually. 1010 00:36:53,664 --> 00:36:56,484 Do not do not do little. Do more. 1011 00:36:59,824 --> 00:37:00,304 But would 1012 00:37:01,025 --> 00:37:04,065 seriously, it's a cold winter's day, and I 1013 00:37:04,065 --> 00:37:06,103 go into the bathroom and because I have 1014 00:37:06,103 --> 00:37:07,329 that all of these things you can do. 1015 00:37:07,329 --> 00:37:08,769 And I can not only that, but I 1016 00:37:08,769 --> 00:37:11,030 could at the very least, I have a 1017 00:37:11,409 --> 00:37:11,909 preset 1018 00:37:12,210 --> 00:37:12,710 temperature 1019 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:14,949 on the toilet seat 1020 00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:17,250 that I can sit down and it can 1021 00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:19,889 make me feel wonderful. You're gonna you're gonna 1022 00:37:19,889 --> 00:37:21,855 wanna stay. It's it could be the warmest 1023 00:37:21,855 --> 00:37:23,614 part of the house. It might be. It 1024 00:37:23,614 --> 00:37:26,335 absolutely might be. And and then as you 1025 00:37:26,335 --> 00:37:28,894 talked about before, we have the, you know, 1026 00:37:28,894 --> 00:37:30,675 the fountain out in front of the Bellagio, 1027 00:37:31,695 --> 00:37:34,055 to to provide us with lights and amazing 1028 00:37:34,255 --> 00:37:35,635 and lights and and 1029 00:37:36,309 --> 00:37:37,210 and who knows, 1030 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:39,369 maybe maybe Goldfish. 1031 00:37:39,989 --> 00:37:43,369 And and we have we have that also 1032 00:37:43,429 --> 00:37:45,829 just going now. Don't you feel better? And 1033 00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:47,829 and I think you have a business there. 1034 00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:48,889 I think you should. 1035 00:37:49,315 --> 00:37:50,914 That's the that's the amazing thing. I mean, 1036 00:37:50,914 --> 00:37:52,594 really, when you think about it, is this 1037 00:37:52,594 --> 00:37:54,515 just a cultural resistant? Is there some sort 1038 00:37:54,515 --> 00:37:56,114 of economic aspect to it? Yeah. I think 1039 00:37:56,114 --> 00:37:57,954 it's a combination. Out of the cultural realm. 1040 00:37:57,954 --> 00:37:59,315 But but Yeah. You have to add all 1041 00:37:59,315 --> 00:38:01,235 these factors in and that's the and there's 1042 00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:03,329 your answer. You know? Not to say and 1043 00:38:03,329 --> 00:38:05,570 and and again, you're the cultural expert here. 1044 00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:07,750 I'm just the, pretty face. 1045 00:38:08,130 --> 00:38:08,369 And, 1046 00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:13,190 so so why is that funny? Hold on. 1047 00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:16,550 Look in the mirror. Oh, it's deflecting 1048 00:38:16,849 --> 00:38:18,344 the negative. Mirror is it placed? 1049 00:38:19,144 --> 00:38:20,744 I always thought that was the goldfish I 1050 00:38:20,744 --> 00:38:22,445 was looking at. It turns out it's me. 1051 00:38:24,505 --> 00:38:26,284 The Koi boy. Never eat anything. The 1052 00:38:26,664 --> 00:38:27,484 Koi boy. 1053 00:38:29,545 --> 00:38:31,304 Not the boy koi. No. That's a whole 1054 00:38:31,465 --> 00:38:32,824 No. That's a that's a boy group, I 1055 00:38:32,824 --> 00:38:34,809 think. No. That's not c o y k 1056 00:38:34,809 --> 00:38:36,730 o y. Club, I think it was. I 1057 00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:38,010 think. Stay with me here. Not 1058 00:38:39,289 --> 00:38:40,429 Do I have to? 1059 00:38:41,929 --> 00:38:43,769 Coy boy is very different from coy boy. 1060 00:38:43,769 --> 00:38:44,269 Alright. 1061 00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:47,150 Coy boy George, I think, is is a 1062 00:38:47,289 --> 00:38:48,510 totally different things. 1063 00:38:53,355 --> 00:38:55,214 Or there's Toy Boy Toy also. 1064 00:38:55,514 --> 00:38:56,014 Right. 1065 00:38:58,315 --> 00:38:59,614 That's another podcast 1066 00:38:59,914 --> 00:39:02,170 right there. Yep. Yep. We'll get to it 1067 00:39:02,170 --> 00:39:03,690 though. I think it's I think it's a 1068 00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:05,449 new addition. It's a new feature on the 1069 00:39:05,449 --> 00:39:06,989 latest Japanese toilet. 1070 00:39:17,465 --> 00:39:19,785 Oh, I'm thinking one way or another, the 1071 00:39:19,785 --> 00:39:21,864 coy boy toy has already come to American 1072 00:39:21,864 --> 00:39:22,364 bathrooms. 1073 00:39:25,224 --> 00:39:25,724 Oh, 1074 00:39:26,105 --> 00:39:27,244 wow. Okay. 1075 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,920 Anyway, where the hell are we? 1076 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,880 Okay. Well, I I don't think we've solved 1077 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,639 the problem of Did we have a problem? 1078 00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:37,000 I didn't know we had a problem. Not 1079 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,940 a not a problem. It's a curiosity. 1080 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,085 I mean, it you know, it's it's a 1081 00:39:42,085 --> 00:39:44,425 curiosity. How come this thing that sounds 1082 00:39:44,724 --> 00:39:46,005 I mean, Toron, are you on board with 1083 00:39:46,005 --> 00:39:48,805 this? This sounds like a really cool thing. 1084 00:39:48,805 --> 00:39:50,085 It sounds like it sounds like the toilet 1085 00:39:50,085 --> 00:39:52,244 in Japan. I very much want one. You 1086 00:39:52,485 --> 00:39:54,325 I'm sure. I'm sure. I want two. I'm 1087 00:39:54,325 --> 00:39:55,860 not getting you one for Christmas, by the 1088 00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:56,360 way. 1089 00:39:56,820 --> 00:39:59,140 But it's it's a that would be an 1090 00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:01,400 interesting thing to buy someone for Christmas, wouldn't 1091 00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:03,780 it? Here, it's a Japanese toilet. Well, you 1092 00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:05,460 know, maybe there's somebody who's working on this, 1093 00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:07,140 and what they're doing is they're having to 1094 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,519 think about how we adapt it culturally to 1095 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:11,240 to 1096 00:40:11,744 --> 00:40:14,724 American culture, US American culture, or or to 1097 00:40:15,025 --> 00:40:17,984 Western European culture. And and maybe and it'd 1098 00:40:17,984 --> 00:40:20,384 be it's it's an interesting exercise. What would 1099 00:40:20,384 --> 00:40:22,545 I have to do to a traditional Japanese 1100 00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:23,045 toilet 1101 00:40:23,344 --> 00:40:24,244 to retain 1102 00:40:24,545 --> 00:40:26,005 the attractive features, 1103 00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:28,750 but to make it more appropriate to the 1104 00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:30,670 culture in The US if I wanna sell 1105 00:40:30,670 --> 00:40:32,030 it there. Right. What do you think they 1106 00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,630 would have to do? Well, I don't know 1107 00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:35,730 because my reaction is the same as Torrance. 1108 00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:37,549 My reaction is You want everything the way 1109 00:40:37,549 --> 00:40:39,650 it is? Too. Yes. And and and yours. 1110 00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:42,355 Is is this sounds this sounds terrific. And 1111 00:40:42,355 --> 00:40:44,514 in a world where, I mean, people are 1112 00:40:44,514 --> 00:40:46,934 lining up for the newest telephone 1113 00:40:47,554 --> 00:40:48,694 when it comes out, 1114 00:40:49,394 --> 00:40:51,155 and and and they're lining up to get 1115 00:40:51,155 --> 00:40:52,755 it like it's gonna go bad on them 1116 00:40:52,755 --> 00:40:54,355 if they don't get the the first ones 1117 00:40:54,355 --> 00:40:55,174 that are manufactured. 1118 00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:57,769 And and they can't get enough of these 1119 00:40:57,769 --> 00:40:59,530 things, and all we can talk about is 1120 00:40:59,530 --> 00:41:01,469 artificial intelligence and robots. 1121 00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:04,250 So what do I think could do it? 1122 00:41:04,250 --> 00:41:06,489 I think when the Japanese make the thing 1123 00:41:06,489 --> 00:41:08,329 come the toilet come out of the room 1124 00:41:08,809 --> 00:41:11,130 Make it affordable. Bring you back into the 1125 00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:12,865 bathroom. So that no matter so you can 1126 00:41:12,865 --> 00:41:14,865 keep walking around. You could just You can 1127 00:41:14,865 --> 00:41:17,184 clean the house. Yes. It'll come and just 1128 00:41:17,184 --> 00:41:19,025 leap onto you. You can get into your 1129 00:41:19,025 --> 00:41:21,025 car with it. Right? Just take it anywhere 1130 00:41:21,025 --> 00:41:23,265 you wanna go. It's go on the go. 1131 00:41:23,265 --> 00:41:24,325 Go on the go. 1132 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,119 Well 1133 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,559 You you could drive through McDonald's with Perfect. 1134 00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,199 It's so American. Exactly. You're right. You just 1135 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,579 You can drive through McDonald's. 1136 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,960 That's sort of the complete loop right there. 1137 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,655 Right. Yep. If if Attach it to your 1138 00:41:40,655 --> 00:41:42,414 seat. They're gonna have little clip ons like 1139 00:41:42,414 --> 00:41:44,655 like baby seats in cars. Yeah. They're gonna 1140 00:41:44,655 --> 00:41:47,375 clip the Japanese toilet clip on in the 1141 00:41:47,375 --> 00:41:49,155 car. You when you're driving 1142 00:41:50,014 --> 00:41:50,835 as well. 1143 00:41:52,610 --> 00:41:53,989 It comes with an airbag. 1144 00:41:54,449 --> 00:41:55,190 No more. 1145 00:41:57,170 --> 00:41:59,030 As long as it's in the right spot. 1146 00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:01,909 No more no more rest stops. 1147 00:42:02,769 --> 00:42:05,304 You're in a permanent rest stop. Anything. You're 1148 00:42:05,304 --> 00:42:07,385 never getting out of your car. You're in 1149 00:42:07,385 --> 00:42:09,324 a mobile rest stop. So American. 1150 00:42:10,744 --> 00:42:12,664 We finally made America great again, I believe. 1151 00:42:12,664 --> 00:42:14,744 We did. I think we did. Greater than 1152 00:42:14,744 --> 00:42:16,445 ever. Ever and ever. 1153 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:21,019 And and and how much can you tell 1154 00:42:21,019 --> 00:42:22,699 about a Japanese culture by looking in their 1155 00:42:22,699 --> 00:42:24,559 toilet? I mean, it's just incredible. 1156 00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:26,619 Look, there's another aspect to it that is 1157 00:42:26,699 --> 00:42:28,780 that that really does reflect with us. I 1158 00:42:28,780 --> 00:42:32,000 mean, the the you've got a a country 1159 00:42:32,219 --> 00:42:33,760 that is is, 1160 00:42:34,324 --> 00:42:36,085 you said before, the Asian, 1161 00:42:36,484 --> 00:42:36,984 countries 1162 00:42:37,364 --> 00:42:38,005 have been, 1163 00:42:38,324 --> 00:42:40,324 developed in culture with the idea that the 1164 00:42:40,324 --> 00:42:40,824 group 1165 00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:43,125 is at least as important as the individual 1166 00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:44,964 in a many cases. More so. More so. 1167 00:42:44,964 --> 00:42:47,605 So it's it's it's vital. So you've got 1168 00:42:47,605 --> 00:42:50,349 a a group of people and especially in 1169 00:42:50,349 --> 00:42:52,289 Japan, which is a series of islands 1170 00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:53,550 and and, 1171 00:42:54,109 --> 00:42:56,769 isolated, and for many, many years was literally 1172 00:42:56,829 --> 00:42:59,150 isolated from the rest of the world. And 1173 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:01,949 and they will go along and do things 1174 00:43:01,949 --> 00:43:04,349 and adjust and adapt to something even though 1175 00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:05,405 they're that 1176 00:43:05,785 --> 00:43:06,364 that that 1177 00:43:06,824 --> 00:43:07,644 much faster 1178 00:43:08,184 --> 00:43:10,204 than they'll adapt much faster 1179 00:43:10,505 --> 00:43:13,625 than than The United States will because we're 1180 00:43:13,625 --> 00:43:16,605 always you know, we're independent and individual, so 1181 00:43:16,949 --> 00:43:19,909 our our overall attitude towards things is prove 1182 00:43:19,909 --> 00:43:22,230 it to me, show me, something like that 1183 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:24,150 until we do, and then we line up 1184 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:24,789 for the next, 1185 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:27,510 next iPhone that they're gonna overcharge me for. 1186 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:29,534 Mhmm. Well Not that I'm bitter. 1187 00:43:31,454 --> 00:43:34,355 Therefore, strap on your your Japanese 1188 00:43:34,734 --> 00:43:36,815 toy. Go on the go. Clip it into 1189 00:43:36,815 --> 00:43:38,355 your car seat. Put it on. 1190 00:43:38,775 --> 00:43:39,275 And 1191 00:43:39,694 --> 00:43:41,394 and if they could make it fly 1192 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,920 if they could make it fly, it would 1193 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,840 be the greatest invention of all time. Wow. 1194 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,320 Yeah. The Didn't Da Vinci design one of 1195 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,820 those, 1196 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:50,179 a flying toilet 1197 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,639 like that? I'm sure he did. I'm sure 1198 00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:54,320 he did. He's those sketches that he made. 1199 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,500 He's so far ahead of his own. Amazing. 1200 00:43:56,614 --> 00:43:58,295 I think yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was 1201 00:43:58,375 --> 00:44:00,434 Yeah. He was a computerized somewhere in there. 1202 00:44:00,434 --> 00:44:02,074 Somewhere in there. Sketch. 1203 00:44:02,934 --> 00:44:05,414 Flying toilet with an airbag. I'm pretty sure 1204 00:44:05,414 --> 00:44:07,815 that he designed. Yes. Yeah. He he had 1205 00:44:07,815 --> 00:44:08,315 Michelangelo 1206 00:44:08,614 --> 00:44:10,534 also. And I think if you look up 1207 00:44:10,534 --> 00:44:12,970 at the Sistine Chapel Yes. You'll see in 1208 00:44:12,970 --> 00:44:14,510 the little corner there somewhere, 1209 00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:18,110 there's a cherub with a Japanese toilet attached. 1210 00:44:18,329 --> 00:44:20,890 Right? There's the cherubs. Michelangelo's greatest work. Got 1211 00:44:20,890 --> 00:44:22,489 the cherubs back because they're, 1212 00:44:23,050 --> 00:44:25,514 they haven't been doing anything since then. We've 1213 00:44:25,514 --> 00:44:27,694 got Yes. You're right. It was mostly Michelangelo. 1214 00:44:27,835 --> 00:44:29,914 We've got we've got cherubs That's right. Twice 1215 00:44:29,914 --> 00:44:30,815 in one podcast. 1216 00:44:31,275 --> 00:44:33,114 How many times can you use a cherub? 1217 00:44:33,114 --> 00:44:35,114 It's not easy. It's not easy. So well 1218 00:44:35,114 --> 00:44:35,614 done. 1219 00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:39,940 I think the last time I heard cherubs, 1220 00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:41,160 noted was, 1221 00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:44,820 that was kind of a seedy movie theater 1222 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,340 in a bad section of town. But we 1223 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:47,000 anyway, 1224 00:44:47,619 --> 00:44:49,140 this Well, you could sit in the cherub 1225 00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:51,559 section. It was the yes. The cherub section 1226 00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:52,355 when 1227 00:44:52,894 --> 00:44:54,914 and there were no airbags. Believe me. 1228 00:44:55,775 --> 00:44:56,255 There was 1229 00:44:57,215 --> 00:44:58,914 I don't even know what that means. 1230 00:45:01,614 --> 00:45:03,474 Oh my goodness. Well, 1231 00:45:04,335 --> 00:45:05,074 you know what? 1232 00:45:05,614 --> 00:45:07,260 You know you know what time it is? 1233 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:10,219 Look on your toilet. I'm sure it has 1234 00:45:10,219 --> 00:45:12,380 a glass somewhere. So would you like a 1235 00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:14,300 a digital or a Yeah. Well, we can 1236 00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:15,659 do it. Yeah. You can You can look 1237 00:45:15,659 --> 00:45:17,420 at the digital part. You can look at 1238 00:45:17,420 --> 00:45:19,659 the Yeah. Yeah. A countdown would be interesting. 1239 00:45:19,857 --> 00:45:22,054 Again. We're so digital we forget the term 1240 00:45:22,054 --> 00:45:23,974 for non digital. What's the when you're sitting 1241 00:45:23,974 --> 00:45:25,974 on the toilet, the term digital could mean 1242 00:45:25,974 --> 00:45:26,795 a whole lot. 1243 00:45:29,335 --> 00:45:31,574 What's the what is Torin, what's look it 1244 00:45:31,574 --> 00:45:34,295 up for us, please. What you know, you 1245 00:45:34,295 --> 00:45:36,269 have an you have a digital clock and 1246 00:45:36,269 --> 00:45:36,910 you have a 1247 00:45:37,789 --> 00:45:39,950 Analog. Oh, well, well We're so digital, I 1248 00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:41,550 can't think of the term. Thank you. Oh, 1249 00:45:41,550 --> 00:45:44,510 oh, oh, yes. Analog. Yes. Analog. Right. Thank 1250 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:45,730 you. Right. Which is 1251 00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:47,469 being able to read the hands on a 1252 00:45:47,469 --> 00:45:49,489 clock is a of this lost art 1253 00:45:50,085 --> 00:45:52,324 that's that's unfortunately a lost art. I guess, 1254 00:45:52,324 --> 00:45:53,525 do we need it for now? Like the 1255 00:45:53,525 --> 00:45:54,264 like the 1256 00:45:55,284 --> 00:45:57,545 the disappearing art of of handwriting. 1257 00:45:58,005 --> 00:46:00,905 Of of cursive writing. Yes. Absolutely. 1258 00:46:01,204 --> 00:46:01,704 Yeah. 1259 00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:04,300 Torren, you didn't you didn't learn cursive writing, 1260 00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:06,400 did you, in school? I did, but 1261 00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:07,280 briefly. 1262 00:46:07,980 --> 00:46:10,460 I think briefly in fifth grade. Torrens of 1263 00:46:10,460 --> 00:46:12,239 a younger generation. Yeah. 1264 00:46:13,099 --> 00:46:15,739 Yeah. It it's it's a it's not yes. 1265 00:46:15,739 --> 00:46:16,239 Torrens 1266 00:46:17,614 --> 00:46:19,954 much younger than the than us. We are 1267 00:46:20,014 --> 00:46:21,494 at at least a 83. 1268 00:46:21,494 --> 00:46:22,815 I have eight years old. I think. 1269 00:46:23,295 --> 00:46:24,514 But and 1270 00:46:24,815 --> 00:46:26,034 and Torrance eight, 1271 00:46:26,335 --> 00:46:28,175 which we wanna talk to you about the 1272 00:46:28,175 --> 00:46:31,135 puberty thing, Tor. That's strange that Coming up. 1273 00:46:31,375 --> 00:46:32,639 Going through it. Yes. 1274 00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:36,099 It's about the voice. It's a little weird. 1275 00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:42,339 Anyway, yeah. You're so you're you're minimally 1276 00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:43,139 cursed 1277 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,199 Yes. If I can make that into a 1278 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,905 Exactly. Past tense for You're cursive deficient. I 1279 00:46:47,905 --> 00:46:50,305 don't wanna make it negative, but But it 1280 00:46:50,305 --> 00:46:53,285 but it is. Most most kids today. Yeah. 1281 00:46:53,505 --> 00:46:55,744 Yeah. And and and and so handwriting is 1282 00:46:55,744 --> 00:46:57,605 is actually deteriorated immensely. 1283 00:46:58,144 --> 00:47:00,305 It's But because we don't need it right. 1284 00:47:00,465 --> 00:47:02,789 The question. So what? So what? That's the 1285 00:47:02,789 --> 00:47:04,950 reason. Is it important? We've we've given up 1286 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:07,510 the Quill pen because so what? So you 1287 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:10,070 don't need an analog toilet. Yeah. And I'm 1288 00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:12,489 saying no. Heat mine up, baby. 1289 00:47:18,304 --> 00:47:18,804 Alrighty. 1290 00:47:19,105 --> 00:47:20,005 On that note, 1291 00:47:20,625 --> 00:47:22,224 I'm Tom Peterson, and, 1292 00:47:22,864 --> 00:47:26,385 I'm sitting here trying to educate you with 1293 00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:27,684 Dean Foster, who's, 1294 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:29,599 in theory anyway, 1295 00:47:30,539 --> 00:47:32,779 one of the great experts in culture around 1296 00:47:32,779 --> 00:47:34,319 the world. Is that accurate? 1297 00:47:35,179 --> 00:47:37,579 Sure. Okay. We'll go with it. And if 1298 00:47:37,579 --> 00:47:39,759 you buy that, there's this bridge we've got. 1299 00:47:40,699 --> 00:47:41,199 Anyway, 1300 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:43,179 thanks for listening, and, 1301 00:47:44,224 --> 00:47:44,724 smell 1302 00:47:53,985 --> 00:47:57,284 you. 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