1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 When we're recording this, actually, we're here on 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,259 Labor Day weekend 3 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:07,379 in The United States which is held 4 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:08,980 in the first 5 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:10,660 Monday in September. 6 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:14,000 And for that reason, I've laid in a 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,454 little bit of a sound effect of people 8 00:00:16,454 --> 00:00:18,714 mowing lawns here for us 9 00:00:19,095 --> 00:00:19,414 to, 10 00:00:19,975 --> 00:00:21,574 to make us feel like in at least 11 00:00:21,574 --> 00:00:23,815 in The United States, we'll understand that that 12 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:25,414 that is sort of a thing you do 13 00:00:25,414 --> 00:00:27,095 at this time of year and it has 14 00:00:27,095 --> 00:00:29,240 to get done. So I thought I'd do 15 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,400 just do a little, what they call in 16 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,539 the audio biz, 17 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,579 a bed 18 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,000 underneath us of, of lawn mowing for a 19 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,659 little bit. 20 00:00:42,865 --> 00:00:43,365 Now 21 00:00:44,065 --> 00:00:45,204 That's my soundtrack. 22 00:00:45,664 --> 00:00:47,505 I see. And Dean Foster, what were you 23 00:00:47,505 --> 00:00:49,204 being there? That's a barbecue. 24 00:00:49,585 --> 00:00:52,164 Oh, that was a barbecue. Very nice. Okay. 25 00:00:52,945 --> 00:00:54,625 Okay. I thought my TV was on the 26 00:00:54,625 --> 00:00:55,125 fritz. 27 00:00:57,105 --> 00:00:57,605 Because 28 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,359 because Labor Day is also celebrated by barbecues 29 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:02,840 and people being outside and getting together. The 30 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,899 last the last 31 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,200 hurrah for the summer. Right. That it's yes. 32 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,959 All the official end of summer. It is 33 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,680 the unofficial end of but many people believe 34 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,599 it's the official one, but that doesn't happen 35 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:14,355 for another few weeks. Yeah. 36 00:01:15,375 --> 00:01:16,834 But anyway, yeah, sure. 37 00:01:17,135 --> 00:01:19,055 It's sort of in Again, in The U. 38 00:01:19,055 --> 00:01:21,854 S, it's a time when those who go 39 00:01:21,854 --> 00:01:23,474 to summer resorts, 40 00:01:23,935 --> 00:01:24,435 beaches, 41 00:01:24,814 --> 00:01:27,295 whatever they happen to go to, usually that 42 00:01:27,295 --> 00:01:28,019 wraps up 43 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:29,479 on this first 44 00:01:29,780 --> 00:01:32,340 weekend in September. Right. You know, and it's 45 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:33,560 quite bizarre because 46 00:01:34,259 --> 00:01:36,819 most schools in The US actually start well 47 00:01:36,819 --> 00:01:39,859 before Labor Day. There's only a handful that 48 00:01:39,859 --> 00:01:42,114 start down the middle of the day. More 49 00:01:42,114 --> 00:01:44,755 now than it ever was before. Yeah. And 50 00:01:44,755 --> 00:01:47,474 and I, you know, I people are going 51 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:49,635 back to school in mid August and and 52 00:01:49,635 --> 00:01:51,954 even earlier. So it's very it's it's very 53 00:01:51,954 --> 00:01:53,555 odd. There really doesn't seem to be any 54 00:01:53,555 --> 00:01:55,795 reason to have Labor Day. If it never 55 00:01:55,795 --> 00:01:57,709 was from a cultural perspective. 56 00:01:58,489 --> 00:02:00,489 I mean, The US actually Wait, hold on. 57 00:02:00,489 --> 00:02:02,570 There's a there's a there's a cultural There's 58 00:02:02,570 --> 00:02:04,890 a cultural piece to this. There really is. 59 00:02:04,890 --> 00:02:06,750 Really? I'm trademarked. 60 00:02:07,049 --> 00:02:07,549 Yep. 61 00:02:08,409 --> 00:02:10,169 Because TM or TM. Not yet, but it 62 00:02:10,169 --> 00:02:11,704 should be. Patent pending. And I think we 63 00:02:11,704 --> 00:02:13,144 should talk about this because 64 00:02:13,584 --> 00:02:14,084 Yes. 65 00:02:15,264 --> 00:02:15,764 Oops. 66 00:02:16,144 --> 00:02:17,444 Your culture showing. 67 00:02:25,344 --> 00:02:28,199 And you're Tom Peterson. I am, and you're 68 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:31,240 Dean Foster. And here's the cultural piece. Oh. 69 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Oh. Here's the cultural piece. Here it is. 70 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,199 Hold on. Hold on. 71 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Can I get a drum roll? No? Okay. 72 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,199 The rest of the world, if they celebrate 73 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:40,759 Labor Day, and many countries do, don't celebrate 74 00:02:40,759 --> 00:02:43,114 it now. The US is the only country 75 00:02:43,114 --> 00:02:45,754 that celebrates Labor Day on this crazy day 76 00:02:45,754 --> 00:02:48,655 that the schools are still are actually open. 77 00:02:48,715 --> 00:02:51,375 I'm I'm wondering if we have any idea 78 00:02:51,514 --> 00:02:53,914 why that would be. Most of countries that 79 00:02:53,914 --> 00:02:56,250 celebrate Labor Day do so on May 1. 80 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:58,810 Okay. Why and why would that May 1 81 00:02:58,810 --> 00:03:00,430 is is the celebration 82 00:03:00,729 --> 00:03:01,229 of 83 00:03:01,849 --> 00:03:02,509 the socialist 84 00:03:03,129 --> 00:03:04,430 revolution originally. 85 00:03:04,889 --> 00:03:07,930 Mhmm. Now not necessarily the communist revolution, but 86 00:03:07,930 --> 00:03:10,275 the socialist revolution Wait. Hold on. Which is 87 00:03:10,354 --> 00:03:13,014 tied politically to the workers' rights and workers' 88 00:03:13,394 --> 00:03:15,074 revolution. Right. Which are basically the idea of 89 00:03:15,074 --> 00:03:15,574 socialism 90 00:03:15,875 --> 00:03:18,134 in in that sense. Exactly. Socialism 91 00:03:18,754 --> 00:03:19,735 as as a 92 00:03:20,674 --> 00:03:21,414 as a concept. 93 00:03:21,715 --> 00:03:23,814 Right. Not not as it's been politically reinterpreted 94 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:25,960 in America today. Because as I was going 95 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,879 to say, you're you're you're telling me socialism 96 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:29,979 and communism are not the same thing? 97 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,039 Very different actually. Yes. Well, communism a little 98 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:36,219 offshoot of a version of socialism. 99 00:03:36,844 --> 00:03:38,924 It it it was something unique to the 100 00:03:38,924 --> 00:03:42,525 Russian experiment. Absolutely. Right. Yes. And is not 101 00:03:42,525 --> 00:03:45,564 there. So there is this tinge of red 102 00:03:45,564 --> 00:03:47,025 and pink to 103 00:03:47,324 --> 00:03:50,544 to to to Labor Day. It's been viewed, 104 00:03:50,604 --> 00:03:51,104 certainly, 105 00:03:51,650 --> 00:03:52,469 in The United States 106 00:03:53,010 --> 00:03:55,409 as something that we can't participate in if 107 00:03:55,409 --> 00:03:57,969 it's if it's May 1 because that lends 108 00:03:57,969 --> 00:03:58,469 credence 109 00:03:58,770 --> 00:04:01,730 to the workers' revolution and to socialism. Uh-huh. 110 00:04:01,730 --> 00:04:03,990 So we had to find an alternate date 111 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:07,395 in The US. Right. I actually do not 112 00:04:07,395 --> 00:04:10,034 know how they chose the first Monday in 113 00:04:10,034 --> 00:04:11,795 Sydney. Behind that. I don't know that either. 114 00:04:11,795 --> 00:04:14,034 As long as it wasn't the first the 115 00:04:14,034 --> 00:04:16,754 the first Monday in in May Mayday? Or 116 00:04:16,754 --> 00:04:19,569 Mayday, the first day in May, then, then 117 00:04:19,569 --> 00:04:22,230 I guess everything was okay. Well, also Mayday 118 00:04:22,290 --> 00:04:23,830 for for many, many years. 119 00:04:25,009 --> 00:04:27,569 Aside from that, Mayday was celebrated for other 120 00:04:27,569 --> 00:04:29,670 reasons just because of the beginning of spring 121 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:31,029 and and 122 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:33,330 the warmer weather and there was the May 123 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:36,074 poll that that people would dance around with 124 00:04:36,074 --> 00:04:39,035 long streamers and things like that that people 125 00:04:39,035 --> 00:04:41,055 would do. So it was already kind of 126 00:04:41,595 --> 00:04:44,235 a May I guess, May Day in that 127 00:04:44,235 --> 00:04:45,774 sense was came before 128 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:48,730 the application of Labor Day to it? Yeah. 129 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:50,569 I mean, we could it'll be interesting to 130 00:04:50,569 --> 00:04:53,149 find out why why May 1 was chosen 131 00:04:53,290 --> 00:04:55,449 as a day of celebrating workers and workers' 132 00:04:55,449 --> 00:04:57,149 rights. You know what date? Workers struggle. 133 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:59,144 I can I can yeah? I can take 134 00:04:59,144 --> 00:05:01,705 a look. Wait. Torren. Torren's here. Oh. Torren's 135 00:05:01,705 --> 00:05:03,865 here. Hi. Hi. Hi. I can see him 136 00:05:03,865 --> 00:05:05,944 over there in the corner. Him. Oh. And 137 00:05:05,944 --> 00:05:07,464 I should also note that Were you mowing 138 00:05:07,464 --> 00:05:08,524 the lawn? Is that 139 00:05:09,384 --> 00:05:10,904 okay? It was not, which is why we 140 00:05:10,904 --> 00:05:12,425 need the the sound in the back of 141 00:05:12,425 --> 00:05:14,790 the zipper your bed. Yes. Very comfortable bed. 142 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:17,210 A bed. I should note too that 143 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:21,110 this episode is coming out on Thanksgiving Day 144 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:23,509 in The US. And so Right. Folks are 145 00:05:23,509 --> 00:05:25,189 wondering why are we talking about Labor Day, 146 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:27,165 and we mentioned that's when we're recording this. 147 00:05:27,645 --> 00:05:29,504 But we're also we thought we'd talk holidays 148 00:05:29,564 --> 00:05:31,485 because it is it is a How about 149 00:05:31,485 --> 00:05:33,165 that? Holiday in The US. But, you know, 150 00:05:33,165 --> 00:05:34,685 that And and don't be jealous because it 151 00:05:34,685 --> 00:05:36,564 is still warm while we're recording. I know 152 00:05:36,564 --> 00:05:38,605 it may not be depending where you are. 153 00:05:38,605 --> 00:05:40,205 It may be nice and warm where you 154 00:05:40,205 --> 00:05:41,964 are. Right. But if you're in the New 155 00:05:41,964 --> 00:05:44,300 England where we are, it's, it's gonna be 156 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,020 a little cold. Moment and this is getting 157 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:48,340 very bizarre now. I mean, we're doing time 158 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:50,500 travel. You're in there. We're asking our listeners 159 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:52,500 to to time travel the numbers. They can 160 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:53,160 do it. 161 00:05:53,780 --> 00:05:56,020 I'm having trouble doing this. I mean, so 162 00:05:56,020 --> 00:05:58,425 it really is you. It's US Labor Day. 163 00:05:58,425 --> 00:06:00,845 It's not it's not May 1 Labor Day 164 00:06:00,985 --> 00:06:01,485 in 165 00:06:01,865 --> 00:06:04,425 elsewhere. Right? Okay. Alright. Well, it is it 166 00:06:04,425 --> 00:06:06,425 is elsewhere, but it's not that day. But 167 00:06:06,425 --> 00:06:07,944 it could be that day because you don't 168 00:06:07,944 --> 00:06:09,705 have to actually listen to it when it's 169 00:06:09,705 --> 00:06:11,785 released. So you could be listening to it 170 00:06:11,785 --> 00:06:14,060 after the fact, which could be May 1. 171 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,720 Oh my goodness. Oh, now I'm really, really 172 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,459 Ew. My brain. But it's really around Thanksgiving 173 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,939 time, we think. Is that wordplay? 174 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,634 No. No. No. No. Is that, 175 00:06:28,894 --> 00:06:29,954 Okay. Never mind. 176 00:06:30,894 --> 00:06:31,394 Here's 177 00:06:32,014 --> 00:06:34,814 another cultural thing that I'm observing about. I'm 178 00:06:34,814 --> 00:06:36,754 overloading on cultural things. Well, 179 00:06:37,134 --> 00:06:38,735 that's the whole purpose of the story. Oh, 180 00:06:38,735 --> 00:06:40,274 never mind. I'm okay then. 181 00:06:40,949 --> 00:06:44,229 I'm I'm recalling many times when I have 182 00:06:44,229 --> 00:06:44,729 been 183 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:48,470 abroad. That means from my country's perspective, away 184 00:06:48,470 --> 00:06:50,729 from The US. When I have been abroad 185 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:52,410 on a US holiday. 186 00:06:52,915 --> 00:06:53,415 Uh-huh. 187 00:06:54,115 --> 00:06:54,935 And like Thanksgiving, 188 00:06:55,634 --> 00:06:56,935 Thanksgiving for some reason, 189 00:06:57,395 --> 00:07:00,595 I've spent many Thanksgivings elsewhere outside of The 190 00:07:00,595 --> 00:07:03,555 US. And it's a very strange experience. Is 191 00:07:03,555 --> 00:07:04,375 it? How come? 192 00:07:05,154 --> 00:07:07,970 Because, first of all, you get perspectives on 193 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:09,029 on on yourself 194 00:07:09,569 --> 00:07:12,129 when you're outside of your first country. I 195 00:07:12,129 --> 00:07:13,910 mean, I never feel more 196 00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:17,009 in some ways, not always, but in some 197 00:07:17,009 --> 00:07:19,650 ways, I never feel more US American than 198 00:07:19,650 --> 00:07:22,245 I do when I'm outside of my country, 199 00:07:23,425 --> 00:07:26,464 for whatever reason at any time because you're 200 00:07:26,464 --> 00:07:28,545 exposed you're you're being who you are in 201 00:07:28,545 --> 00:07:30,545 a culture that is different, and so you 202 00:07:30,545 --> 00:07:33,264 really begin to get perspective on on what 203 00:07:33,264 --> 00:07:35,750 that means, on what it means to be 204 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:38,149 a US American. Right? Okay. Now it for 205 00:07:38,149 --> 00:07:40,329 me, that goes on to steroids 206 00:07:40,709 --> 00:07:42,709 when I'm abroad on a on a US 207 00:07:42,709 --> 00:07:45,509 American holiday. You're admitting to something then here. 208 00:07:45,509 --> 00:07:45,829 Like 209 00:07:46,389 --> 00:07:48,149 Well, sure. You're on the juice is what 210 00:07:48,149 --> 00:07:49,050 you're telling me. 211 00:07:49,435 --> 00:07:51,514 Okay. So, I mean, I I can remember 212 00:07:51,514 --> 00:07:52,875 one time being in, 213 00:07:53,274 --> 00:07:53,935 in Bratislava, 214 00:07:54,314 --> 00:07:56,654 which is the capital of Slovakia Right. 215 00:07:58,394 --> 00:07:59,294 On on Thanksgiving. 216 00:07:59,914 --> 00:08:00,975 And this was 217 00:08:02,439 --> 00:08:05,740 many years ago just after the change, after 218 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:07,500 after the Russians left, 219 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,279 after the Soviets left. Mhmm. And the the 220 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:12,680 country was struggling as many Eastern European countries 221 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,600 were at the time to really figure out 222 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,095 their their new path. Right. 223 00:08:16,814 --> 00:08:18,995 They were freed from the Soviet yoke, but 224 00:08:19,055 --> 00:08:21,074 they didn't really know how to how to 225 00:08:21,454 --> 00:08:23,555 make themselves a whole 226 00:08:24,175 --> 00:08:25,235 functioning nation. 227 00:08:25,694 --> 00:08:28,175 And I was there doing training programs for 228 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:28,915 these folks, 229 00:08:30,014 --> 00:08:30,514 and 230 00:08:30,939 --> 00:08:33,180 and and learning more about their struggle than 231 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:35,440 I think they were learning about 232 00:08:35,899 --> 00:08:38,299 how to deal with foreign cultures. But they 233 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:39,519 needed to because 234 00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:42,059 they hadn't in such a long time. Mhmm. 235 00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:44,960 They were truly just opening up. Right. And 236 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:46,480 so 237 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:49,414 so this was Thanksgiving Day, 238 00:08:49,715 --> 00:08:51,715 which meant nothing to any of the folks 239 00:08:51,715 --> 00:08:54,595 there. Sure. Yeah. Just nothing. Did you have 240 00:08:54,595 --> 00:08:56,134 any other Americans, 241 00:08:57,154 --> 00:08:59,154 along with you, or were you basically on 242 00:08:59,154 --> 00:09:00,995 your own? No. I was basically on my 243 00:09:00,995 --> 00:09:02,879 own. Okay. There was a fellow with me 244 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,120 who was Slovakian who had spent some time 245 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,600 in The US. Mhmm. But he understood that 246 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,879 this was a US holiday, but it didn't 247 00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:13,519 mean anything to him being being Slovakian and 248 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:15,059 and being back home. Sure. 249 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:16,580 And so 250 00:09:17,524 --> 00:09:20,565 I I had a great sense of being 251 00:09:20,565 --> 00:09:22,485 very far away and a great sense of 252 00:09:22,485 --> 00:09:25,444 loneliness and didn't realize how much the holiday 253 00:09:25,444 --> 00:09:26,424 meant to me, 254 00:09:28,644 --> 00:09:31,019 not being able to celebrate it and not 255 00:09:31,019 --> 00:09:32,159 being with my family. 256 00:09:32,620 --> 00:09:36,399 Right. Okay. And I remember rushing down downtown, 257 00:09:37,019 --> 00:09:40,480 taking a tram downtown to a telephone kiosk, 258 00:09:40,940 --> 00:09:43,245 which was the only way I could make 259 00:09:43,325 --> 00:09:45,644 a phone call back home. Mhmm. There were 260 00:09:45,644 --> 00:09:46,144 no, 261 00:09:46,684 --> 00:09:49,164 cell phone services between this country and the 262 00:09:49,164 --> 00:09:51,004 rest of the world Yeah. At the time. 263 00:09:51,004 --> 00:09:53,164 And you weren't jumping on Zoom. And there 264 00:09:53,164 --> 00:09:55,884 was no Zoom. And and there was no 265 00:09:55,884 --> 00:09:58,620 telephone connection from the hotel that I was 266 00:09:58,620 --> 00:10:00,860 staying in. Sure. Wow. And they couldn't make 267 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:02,220 it for me. So you go to this 268 00:10:02,220 --> 00:10:04,879 tell you went to basically the telephone company's 269 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:08,459 offices. Mhmm. And I went in, and I 270 00:10:08,459 --> 00:10:10,539 said I needed to place a call to 271 00:10:10,539 --> 00:10:11,360 The US. 272 00:10:11,855 --> 00:10:14,014 And they told me to take a seat, 273 00:10:14,014 --> 00:10:15,774 and they'd call my name, and they took 274 00:10:15,774 --> 00:10:17,615 my name and number. And then twenty minutes 275 00:10:17,615 --> 00:10:18,115 later, 276 00:10:18,495 --> 00:10:20,735 they called me and said write down the 277 00:10:20,735 --> 00:10:22,434 phone number you want us to call. 278 00:10:22,815 --> 00:10:24,334 And I gave it to them, and then 279 00:10:24,334 --> 00:10:25,694 they said take a seat, and I had 280 00:10:25,694 --> 00:10:27,315 to wait another twenty minutes. 281 00:10:27,889 --> 00:10:30,629 Well, this was the Soviet system. Yeah. And 282 00:10:30,929 --> 00:10:31,410 and, 283 00:10:32,049 --> 00:10:34,610 and then about forty five minutes later after 284 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:35,429 I had arrived, 285 00:10:35,809 --> 00:10:37,649 they called me in and sent me to 286 00:10:37,649 --> 00:10:38,950 one of several different 287 00:10:40,125 --> 00:10:41,965 telephone booths that were lined up on the 288 00:10:41,965 --> 00:10:42,465 wall. 289 00:10:42,845 --> 00:10:46,465 And I went in, and this other this 290 00:10:46,524 --> 00:10:49,004 woman behind my desk says, I'm going to 291 00:10:49,004 --> 00:10:50,065 connect you now. 292 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:52,605 And I'm waiting, and I'm hearing all sorts 293 00:10:52,605 --> 00:10:54,799 of clicks and sounds and things. And then 294 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:56,339 suddenly I hear a phone ring, 295 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:57,299 and 296 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,220 my wife answers the phone. 297 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,279 And she happened at the time to be 298 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,519 in Washington, DC. I I knew the number 299 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:05,679 to call there, and she was with her 300 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,179 family. 301 00:11:06,644 --> 00:11:08,565 And I felt like I was calling from 302 00:11:08,565 --> 00:11:10,965 the moon. Right. Exactly. Right. Yeah. It and 303 00:11:10,965 --> 00:11:12,745 it was that I was so far away. 304 00:11:13,365 --> 00:11:15,465 And, you know, Thanksgiving is a day when 305 00:11:16,165 --> 00:11:17,625 US Americans, like, 306 00:11:18,004 --> 00:11:19,605 you eat a lot. Right? I mean, you 307 00:11:19,605 --> 00:11:21,830 you Right. Not only do you go through 308 00:11:22,129 --> 00:11:25,330 self reflection of gratitude and and and family 309 00:11:25,330 --> 00:11:28,210 and friends and And football. And football and 310 00:11:28,210 --> 00:11:29,970 all of the traditions that are associated with 311 00:11:29,970 --> 00:11:32,370 it, but but the fundamental fact is that 312 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:33,705 you're supposed to eat a lot. 313 00:11:35,625 --> 00:11:37,804 And I'm now in this country where people 314 00:11:38,184 --> 00:11:40,904 have nothing. Right. At that time, they had 315 00:11:40,904 --> 00:11:42,524 nothing. And in the hotel, 316 00:11:43,065 --> 00:11:44,684 they did have a dining room, 317 00:11:45,065 --> 00:11:48,264 but they had one menu, and it was 318 00:11:48,264 --> 00:11:49,899 what they had. Right. 319 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:53,019 There was really no selections to choose from. 320 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,519 And so for the I remember, like, the 321 00:11:56,519 --> 00:11:58,039 fifth night in a row because I was 322 00:11:58,039 --> 00:11:59,639 there for about a week and a half. 323 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:01,559 For the fifth night in a row, we 324 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,019 had the same thing, 325 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:04,779 which was very much 326 00:12:05,545 --> 00:12:06,425 pork and potatoes 327 00:12:07,304 --> 00:12:09,245 Mhmm. And not too many greens. 328 00:12:09,545 --> 00:12:11,004 Right. But because 329 00:12:11,384 --> 00:12:12,125 I think 330 00:12:12,904 --> 00:12:14,904 it was because I was there and they 331 00:12:14,904 --> 00:12:17,545 saw me as an honored guest being a 332 00:12:17,545 --> 00:12:18,045 foreigner, 333 00:12:19,789 --> 00:12:21,870 they went through the trouble of trying to 334 00:12:21,870 --> 00:12:24,509 honor my holiday, and they brought out a 335 00:12:24,509 --> 00:12:26,209 huge bowl of oranges 336 00:12:27,149 --> 00:12:28,769 at the end of the meal. 337 00:12:30,190 --> 00:12:32,429 And we were sitting around. It was myself 338 00:12:32,429 --> 00:12:34,495 plus some of my colleagues and some of 339 00:12:34,495 --> 00:12:36,575 the people who I was there doing work 340 00:12:36,575 --> 00:12:37,075 with. 341 00:12:38,815 --> 00:12:39,795 And these oranges 342 00:12:40,415 --> 00:12:42,355 were treated with such respect. 343 00:12:42,735 --> 00:12:45,134 Oh, yeah. They were such a treat. They 344 00:12:45,134 --> 00:12:47,054 were fresh. They obviously had not grown in 345 00:12:47,054 --> 00:12:49,670 Slovakia. Right. They had to have been imported. 346 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:51,830 How they managed to how anybody managed to 347 00:12:51,830 --> 00:12:53,990 do that in this particular time and place 348 00:12:54,070 --> 00:12:55,129 Yeah. Was remarkable. 349 00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:58,889 And this was this was special. Yeah. This 350 00:12:58,950 --> 00:12:59,610 was a 351 00:13:00,704 --> 00:13:03,605 a hushed moment when the oranges came out. 352 00:13:05,584 --> 00:13:07,204 That's really interesting. 353 00:13:09,345 --> 00:13:11,105 I may be off on this, but I 354 00:13:11,105 --> 00:13:14,084 believe that oranges actually hold 355 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:15,409 a place 356 00:13:16,269 --> 00:13:18,529 in other holiday celebrations too. 357 00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:19,970 Especially 358 00:13:20,269 --> 00:13:23,710 around, let's say, the Christmas holidays and those 359 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:24,610 types of holidays 360 00:13:24,990 --> 00:13:27,250 in that time. I think because 361 00:13:27,825 --> 00:13:30,225 again of the rarity of having it in 362 00:13:30,225 --> 00:13:32,865 that time of year. It's special, so The 363 00:13:32,865 --> 00:13:35,825 specialness is the key. Right. Yeah. Let me 364 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:37,285 just ask you. You mentioned 365 00:13:37,665 --> 00:13:39,524 they had a recognition of the holiday. 366 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:41,590 Did they did you mention it to them? 367 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:44,470 No. I'm assuming somebody did because these oranges 368 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:46,309 came out and they were treated as as 369 00:13:46,309 --> 00:13:49,190 gold I see. Okay. By everybody. And then 370 00:13:49,190 --> 00:13:50,870 as soon as they landed on the table, 371 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:51,190 they were 372 00:13:51,954 --> 00:13:52,934 they they disappeared. 373 00:13:53,554 --> 00:13:55,014 Got it. Right. They just disappear. 374 00:13:55,475 --> 00:13:57,235 It's like you couldn't get your orange fast 375 00:13:57,235 --> 00:13:57,735 enough. 376 00:13:58,914 --> 00:14:01,154 Well, that's that was my other question was, 377 00:14:01,794 --> 00:14:03,475 well, how do you respond to that if 378 00:14:03,475 --> 00:14:05,014 if I was in that circumstance? 379 00:14:05,409 --> 00:14:07,169 Do I reach over and grab my orange? 380 00:14:07,169 --> 00:14:08,870 Absolutely. Okay. Alright. 381 00:14:11,490 --> 00:14:12,549 Speaking of fairness. 382 00:14:14,529 --> 00:14:15,830 It it was like an Italian 383 00:14:16,450 --> 00:14:19,009 saga, which which is which is another experience 384 00:14:19,009 --> 00:14:20,964 I had. I was in Italy, 385 00:14:21,345 --> 00:14:24,304 on Christmas week Uh-huh. And there was this 386 00:14:24,384 --> 00:14:26,404 and it was a beautiful little town 387 00:14:26,865 --> 00:14:27,365 and, 388 00:14:28,544 --> 00:14:31,424 in in in Tuscany. Mhmm. And they were 389 00:14:31,424 --> 00:14:33,345 celebrating, and they had a saga. It was 390 00:14:33,424 --> 00:14:34,565 the weather was warm. 391 00:14:34,970 --> 00:14:37,690 The saga was a communal feast. Uh-huh. And 392 00:14:37,690 --> 00:14:40,170 they put out tables in the square. Okay. 393 00:14:40,170 --> 00:14:43,690 And everybody volunteers to cook. Mhmm. And they're 394 00:14:43,690 --> 00:14:47,309 all cooking fabulous Italian food. Oh, sure. And 395 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:49,629 once when the food actually comes out, 396 00:14:49,934 --> 00:14:51,774 I mean, the way you behave is you 397 00:14:51,774 --> 00:14:53,054 rush up to the table and take as 398 00:14:53,054 --> 00:14:54,115 much as you possibly 399 00:14:55,934 --> 00:14:58,335 can. And I'm waiting to, you know, get 400 00:14:58,335 --> 00:14:59,855 to get some sort of signal as to 401 00:14:59,855 --> 00:15:01,875 what to do. And my Italian 402 00:15:02,309 --> 00:15:04,389 colleague, Cynthia, leans over and she says, you 403 00:15:04,389 --> 00:15:05,790 better get up and get the food. This 404 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:08,149 is not gonna be Right. Go. Time is 405 00:15:08,149 --> 00:15:09,129 limited. Munch. 406 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:12,090 Yeah. Yeah. 407 00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:16,485 Well, that's kinda fun. That sounds that's actually, 408 00:15:16,485 --> 00:15:19,204 that sounds really nice. Yeah. So being away 409 00:15:19,204 --> 00:15:22,084 on on your country's holiday is a unique 410 00:15:22,084 --> 00:15:25,284 experience and and it's not always pleasant. I 411 00:15:25,284 --> 00:15:26,884 I didn't expect to feel so lonely. I 412 00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:29,144 didn't expect to feel so far away. Yeah. 413 00:15:29,684 --> 00:15:30,348 But it was a real learning experience and 414 00:15:30,348 --> 00:15:30,386 nobody else shares it, you know, with you. 415 00:15:30,386 --> 00:15:35,720 It's like it's like the July 416 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,299 in The US. Right. And and guaranteed on 417 00:15:38,299 --> 00:15:40,540 the July 4, I always get phone calls 418 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:43,200 and texts and emails from my British colleagues. 419 00:15:43,259 --> 00:15:45,544 Absolutely. Right. And It's just a regular Don't 420 00:15:45,544 --> 00:15:47,865 they recognize July 4? Well, they yes. They 421 00:15:47,865 --> 00:15:49,424 do. They say, yes. It is the July 422 00:15:49,424 --> 00:15:51,784 4. Yes. Yes. That comes in eight. Comes 423 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:53,065 between the third and the fifth. Yeah. That's 424 00:15:53,065 --> 00:15:55,144 right. And yesterday was the third. It's morally 425 00:15:55,144 --> 00:15:55,804 the fifth. 426 00:15:59,779 --> 00:16:01,580 But I do have to say, to be 427 00:16:01,580 --> 00:16:03,620 to be fair about it, I've had many 428 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:05,460 British friends admit to me that, you know, 429 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:05,960 they 430 00:16:08,340 --> 00:16:09,620 they they they like to take the mickey 431 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,480 on the American for that because 432 00:16:12,074 --> 00:16:14,154 they know that it was a holiday in 433 00:16:14,154 --> 00:16:15,694 revolution against Britain. 434 00:16:16,154 --> 00:16:18,814 So it does have a special place, and 435 00:16:19,274 --> 00:16:20,334 they like to kind 436 00:16:20,954 --> 00:16:23,355 of remind you of that. Right. Right. I 437 00:16:23,355 --> 00:16:25,834 see. By virtue of not knowing why it's 438 00:16:25,834 --> 00:16:27,570 so special. Right. Right. 439 00:16:28,370 --> 00:16:29,910 Why aren't you texting back? 440 00:16:31,889 --> 00:16:33,809 Which I think is quite cute. I I 441 00:16:33,809 --> 00:16:35,730 think that's That is fun. I I I 442 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:37,190 appreciate that. Yeah. 443 00:16:44,384 --> 00:16:47,264 It's interesting too though in The United States 444 00:16:47,264 --> 00:16:50,225 especially and we've talked many times on The 445 00:16:50,225 --> 00:16:51,684 United States' insular 446 00:16:53,024 --> 00:16:55,044 attitudes quite often to the world 447 00:16:56,029 --> 00:16:58,209 and so not being necessarily 448 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:00,850 aware of other 449 00:17:01,870 --> 00:17:04,190 like other labor days like we're talking about 450 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:04,690 or 451 00:17:04,990 --> 00:17:05,730 other independence 452 00:17:06,029 --> 00:17:08,289 days or other days of Thanksgiving 453 00:17:09,144 --> 00:17:12,265 that are because they do. Other countries have 454 00:17:12,265 --> 00:17:13,244 days of Thanksgiving 455 00:17:13,545 --> 00:17:14,365 that aren't 456 00:17:14,744 --> 00:17:15,884 when we have Thanksgiving. 457 00:17:16,505 --> 00:17:18,365 The Canadians are just so, 458 00:17:20,744 --> 00:17:21,484 so marvelously 459 00:17:22,105 --> 00:17:24,710 restrained around this issue Mhmm. Because I think 460 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:26,330 they have Thanksgiving Day, 461 00:17:27,430 --> 00:17:29,049 around the same time of year, 462 00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:32,710 but, not not on The US Thanksgiving Day. 463 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:34,170 And they may be earlier 464 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:35,930 earlier. I believe. 465 00:17:36,309 --> 00:17:37,610 I believe. I believe, is, 466 00:17:38,944 --> 00:17:42,724 in 2022, October 10. Yeah. Much earlier. Okay. 467 00:17:42,785 --> 00:17:44,884 Considerably earlier. Yeah. Okay. 468 00:17:46,625 --> 00:17:48,065 And is that a do we do you 469 00:17:48,065 --> 00:17:50,545 know if that's a fluctuating date like like 470 00:17:50,545 --> 00:17:52,804 ours is? But I can find out. Okay. 471 00:17:53,179 --> 00:17:55,900 But my point is that, you you know, 472 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:58,940 they'll understand that that that US Americans just 473 00:17:58,940 --> 00:18:00,559 don't don't understand that. 474 00:18:00,859 --> 00:18:02,720 They've I mean, I I've been with 475 00:18:03,019 --> 00:18:05,819 in Canada with US Americans who find this 476 00:18:05,819 --> 00:18:07,099 out and they say, well, why don't you 477 00:18:07,099 --> 00:18:08,974 do Thanksgiving day on Thanksgiving? 478 00:18:09,595 --> 00:18:10,095 Right. 479 00:18:10,554 --> 00:18:11,054 What 480 00:18:11,755 --> 00:18:12,255 Right. 481 00:18:12,954 --> 00:18:14,894 What kind of a statement is that? 482 00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:17,515 Well, it's a very much an American one. 483 00:18:17,515 --> 00:18:19,595 A US one. Yes. Very much a US 484 00:18:19,595 --> 00:18:21,755 one. And I should clarify, it's somewhat fluctuating. 485 00:18:21,755 --> 00:18:23,595 It's the second Monday in October. So the 486 00:18:23,595 --> 00:18:25,730 date changes, but it's always second Monday in 487 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:28,130 October. Okay. So but ours is also that 488 00:18:28,130 --> 00:18:29,029 Thursday. Monday. 489 00:18:29,329 --> 00:18:30,849 And and Labor Day is the first Monday 490 00:18:30,849 --> 00:18:33,569 in September. Which it was chosen just basically 491 00:18:33,569 --> 00:18:35,369 because it fell roughly halfway between the July 492 00:18:35,369 --> 00:18:37,190 4 and Thanksgiving. Speaking of Thanksgiving, 493 00:18:37,845 --> 00:18:39,684 that's why. They're like, oh, okay. Interesting. We'll 494 00:18:39,684 --> 00:18:40,964 make it September. 495 00:18:40,964 --> 00:18:42,244 There you go. The Knights of Labor in 496 00:18:42,244 --> 00:18:44,644 1884 adopted a resolution that the first Monday 497 00:18:44,644 --> 00:18:46,505 in September be considered Labor Day. 498 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:49,045 There we go. No problem. And and because 499 00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:51,204 it was roughly halfway between. Okay. So there 500 00:18:51,204 --> 00:18:53,490 was absolutely there was no compelling reason. There's 501 00:18:53,490 --> 00:18:55,610 no It seems like a good time. It 502 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:56,110 seemed 503 00:18:56,650 --> 00:18:58,250 like. This is a good one. Before it 504 00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:00,190 gets too cold and Yeah. 505 00:19:00,650 --> 00:19:02,750 Well, it was really hopefully 506 00:19:03,289 --> 00:19:05,850 a pretty intelligent move. It was an open 507 00:19:05,850 --> 00:19:07,634 area that we weren't 508 00:19:08,195 --> 00:19:10,115 celebrating much of anything else. Yeah. Stick a 509 00:19:10,115 --> 00:19:12,195 major holiday in there. Later in the especially 510 00:19:12,195 --> 00:19:14,275 in the cooler parts of the country, it's 511 00:19:14,275 --> 00:19:15,335 later in the summer 512 00:19:15,714 --> 00:19:17,815 and it's you know, we're coming toward 513 00:19:18,275 --> 00:19:19,095 the fall. 514 00:19:19,634 --> 00:19:22,789 So, sure. So many holidays around the world 515 00:19:23,089 --> 00:19:26,130 were tied to agricultural traditions or tied to 516 00:19:26,130 --> 00:19:27,109 religious traditions, 517 00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:30,309 which are then tied to agricultural traditions. Right. 518 00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:32,470 So if it's harvest time or if it's 519 00:19:33,490 --> 00:19:34,470 planting time 520 00:19:35,845 --> 00:19:38,804 And and and and those things can move 521 00:19:38,804 --> 00:19:40,565 a day or two. It doesn't or a 522 00:19:40,565 --> 00:19:42,404 week or two. It doesn't necessarily have to 523 00:19:42,404 --> 00:19:43,865 be on a particular date. 524 00:19:45,605 --> 00:19:48,005 And the what what I find interesting also 525 00:19:48,005 --> 00:19:50,440 is that we tend to interpret the meaning 526 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,659 of a of a holiday, 527 00:19:52,919 --> 00:19:55,559 based on our understanding of the holiday. So 528 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:56,940 if we don't really understand 529 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,640 what Diwali in India, let's say, is, 530 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,565 we when we're told that Indians call this 531 00:20:05,565 --> 00:20:06,065 holiday 532 00:20:06,765 --> 00:20:07,244 the, 533 00:20:08,605 --> 00:20:10,625 the the celebration of lights or the festival 534 00:20:10,684 --> 00:20:11,904 of lights. Mhmm. 535 00:20:12,365 --> 00:20:14,220 I know for some Jewish friends, they go, 536 00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:15,200 oh, it's like Hanukkah. 537 00:20:15,659 --> 00:20:18,539 Right? Sure. Absolutely. Which is basically the festival 538 00:20:18,539 --> 00:20:20,380 of lights. Because that's what it is in 539 00:20:20,380 --> 00:20:22,619 the Jewish tradition. Right. But in India, it 540 00:20:22,619 --> 00:20:24,539 has nothing to do with Hanukkah. Right. But 541 00:20:24,539 --> 00:20:26,474 it is the festival of lights. Right. But 542 00:20:26,474 --> 00:20:28,575 when does it occur? Well, it occurs sometime 543 00:20:28,634 --> 00:20:29,694 around, usually, 544 00:20:30,554 --> 00:20:32,575 in the fall around Thanksgiving, 545 00:20:32,954 --> 00:20:35,355 often around The US Thanksgiving. Okay. So then 546 00:20:35,355 --> 00:20:37,275 I've had US Americans say, oh, so it's 547 00:20:37,275 --> 00:20:39,054 like the Indian Thanksgiving. Right? 548 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,160 No. Well, in a way it is. I 549 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,980 mean, it is 550 00:20:43,279 --> 00:20:45,440 that kind of a celebration. There's thanks being 551 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,339 given for 552 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,799 but there's many times thanks are giving for 553 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:49,539 other things. 554 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,419 Right. Giving, given, giving, giving. 555 00:20:53,294 --> 00:20:54,994 Word playing. That's 556 00:20:57,534 --> 00:20:59,214 word playing. I think the moral of the 557 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:00,734 story is that we really have to be 558 00:21:00,734 --> 00:21:01,554 very cautious 559 00:21:01,934 --> 00:21:02,914 when we're abroad, 560 00:21:04,174 --> 00:21:05,474 in not interpreting 561 00:21:06,174 --> 00:21:06,835 the celebration 562 00:21:07,214 --> 00:21:09,950 of the holiday that we're experiencing locally 563 00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:11,309 as some sort 564 00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:12,750 of holiday 565 00:21:13,049 --> 00:21:15,069 like something we may have. 566 00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:15,950 Right. 567 00:21:16,490 --> 00:21:18,569 Although I can see I can see an 568 00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,509 innocence to it as well as 569 00:21:20,970 --> 00:21:22,029 the other aspects, 570 00:21:22,845 --> 00:21:24,444 Only in the sense of trying to define 571 00:21:24,444 --> 00:21:24,944 it. 572 00:21:25,644 --> 00:21:27,964 Trying to figure it out for themselves. Although 573 00:21:27,964 --> 00:21:29,744 in that case, when you say 574 00:21:30,125 --> 00:21:33,105 it's the Indian Thanksgiving, you're defining it incorrectly. 575 00:21:33,964 --> 00:21:34,464 Incorrectly. 576 00:21:34,924 --> 00:21:35,664 Right. Exactly. 577 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:38,779 That's never stopped us in The United States 578 00:21:38,779 --> 00:21:39,279 before. 579 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:40,080 No. 580 00:21:43,019 --> 00:21:44,619 And by the way, if you really wanna 581 00:21:44,619 --> 00:21:48,160 have a fabulous time, be in India during 582 00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:48,720 Holi, 583 00:21:49,065 --> 00:21:50,585 h o l I. No. H o l 584 00:21:50,585 --> 00:21:51,784 I. It has nothing to do with h 585 00:21:51,784 --> 00:21:53,304 o l y. Okay. Yep. Yep. 586 00:21:54,505 --> 00:21:56,184 The I think this may be a Sanskrit 587 00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:58,845 word, but it's a it's a fun celebration. 588 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:00,664 This is the time when you go out 589 00:22:00,664 --> 00:22:02,764 in the streets and don't wear good clothes. 590 00:22:03,329 --> 00:22:04,929 And this is usually, I think, in the 591 00:22:04,929 --> 00:22:08,130 spring, if I remember correctly. Okay. Take a 592 00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:10,369 look. And this is when you go out 593 00:22:10,369 --> 00:22:11,970 in the street, and what you're supposed to 594 00:22:11,970 --> 00:22:15,750 do is throw balloons full of colored water 595 00:22:16,289 --> 00:22:18,505 at people. Okay. That's fine. And and the 596 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:20,265 kids do it. You know, the kids love 597 00:22:20,265 --> 00:22:22,285 it. And so you got all these different 598 00:22:22,505 --> 00:22:23,404 colored water 599 00:22:23,865 --> 00:22:26,505 and made with these fabulous spices. Right? Sure. 600 00:22:26,505 --> 00:22:27,944 And you walk down the street and you 601 00:22:27,944 --> 00:22:28,684 get hit. 602 00:22:29,144 --> 00:22:31,224 Right. Hit with these balloons at birth. Love 603 00:22:31,224 --> 00:22:33,900 it. And and, oh, you're soaked. You're soaking 604 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:36,539 wet and your your and color sprayed all 605 00:22:36,539 --> 00:22:39,440 over the it's like it's like a fabulous 606 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:40,640 time. It's wonderful. 607 00:22:41,019 --> 00:22:42,619 And every you can just you don't have 608 00:22:42,619 --> 00:22:45,019 to worry about things because nobody does. Right. 609 00:22:45,019 --> 00:22:47,180 That's great. The whole idea is And you're 610 00:22:47,180 --> 00:22:50,034 probably gonna be fairly warm there. So you're 611 00:22:50,034 --> 00:22:51,794 you're gonna worry about it being too cold 612 00:22:51,794 --> 00:22:53,554 or anything like that. No. I will do 613 00:22:53,554 --> 00:22:55,154 exactly what I said you shouldn't do, and 614 00:22:55,154 --> 00:22:57,474 I'll say it's like the Indian Purim. Oh, 615 00:22:57,474 --> 00:22:58,274 okay. And if anybody 616 00:22:59,075 --> 00:23:00,914 if we have Jewish listeners here, you'll know 617 00:23:00,914 --> 00:23:01,734 what I mean. 618 00:23:02,994 --> 00:23:03,930 It's, it's 619 00:23:05,930 --> 00:23:06,060 going to be in March on March 8 620 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:08,090 in 2023. Oh, March. Okay. Well, b in 621 00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:10,670 In March. Z in India during Holi. 622 00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:12,570 Okay. Do you have why it why it 623 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:14,009 varies? Does it do you have that? Is 624 00:23:14,009 --> 00:23:16,970 that maybe lunar? It's it's it's lunar based 625 00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:19,394 on a lunar calendar. Well, you know, speaking 626 00:23:19,394 --> 00:23:21,894 of throwing things and I'm going to plead 627 00:23:22,115 --> 00:23:24,615 really, really ignorant on this, 628 00:23:25,634 --> 00:23:27,634 but I know that I just saw the 629 00:23:27,634 --> 00:23:29,894 other day that a country who had to 630 00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:34,130 hold back on this has now come back 631 00:23:34,130 --> 00:23:36,150 to where they throw overripe 632 00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:37,029 tomatoes 633 00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:39,970 at each other and they drive down the 634 00:23:39,970 --> 00:23:41,830 street in massive wagons 635 00:23:42,850 --> 00:23:46,115 of overripe tomatoes which will splatter wonderfully. I 636 00:23:46,115 --> 00:23:47,335 think this is in Spain? 637 00:23:48,034 --> 00:23:50,274 I believe you're correct. Yes. And maybe we 638 00:23:50,274 --> 00:23:51,474 can check that out. But I think it's 639 00:23:51,474 --> 00:23:53,154 just a town. I think it's their It 640 00:23:53,154 --> 00:23:54,914 may be. This is just their local thing. 641 00:23:54,914 --> 00:23:56,914 Sure. And and And I think they have 642 00:23:56,914 --> 00:23:59,599 so many tomatoes that they have. Obviously. 643 00:24:00,220 --> 00:24:02,299 They can afford to do this and it's 644 00:24:02,299 --> 00:24:02,799 like 645 00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:05,839 a it's just happened 646 00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:06,880 again 647 00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:08,640 since the pandemic. 648 00:24:09,099 --> 00:24:11,065 It just happened again, I believe for the 649 00:24:11,065 --> 00:24:12,424 first time, maybe a week or two ago. 650 00:24:12,424 --> 00:24:13,625 So they haven't been able to do it 651 00:24:13,625 --> 00:24:15,545 in two and a half, three years. So 652 00:24:15,545 --> 00:24:16,285 now that 653 00:24:16,904 --> 00:24:17,404 they 654 00:24:17,865 --> 00:24:19,065 Yeah. And there it is talk about not 655 00:24:19,065 --> 00:24:21,565 wearing your good clothes. Yeah, right. 656 00:24:23,419 --> 00:24:25,500 I mean, it's just they're smothered in it, 657 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,779 and I don't I don't know if it's 658 00:24:26,779 --> 00:24:28,559 just a celebration. It could be an agricultural 659 00:24:28,779 --> 00:24:30,960 celebration like you're talking about. It's a festival. 660 00:24:31,179 --> 00:24:33,179 It's a festival. This is, I believe, from 661 00:24:33,179 --> 00:24:35,579 four days ago. Thousands of revelers hurled some 662 00:24:35,579 --> 00:24:36,484 130 663 00:24:36,484 --> 00:24:38,725 tons of or overripe tomatoes at each other 664 00:24:38,725 --> 00:24:40,904 today in the eastern Spanish town of Bunol. 665 00:24:41,045 --> 00:24:42,404 Not sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Can 666 00:24:42,404 --> 00:24:44,904 you spell it? B U N O L, 667 00:24:45,285 --> 00:24:48,404 at the Tomatina Festival celebrate Bunol? As the 668 00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:51,289 Tomatina Festival celebrated its seventy fifth edition after 669 00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:52,750 two year lapse due to the pandemic. 670 00:24:53,210 --> 00:24:55,850 Well, I now I'm sorry I missed it. 671 00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:58,090 I mean I didn't know what's happening. Nobody 672 00:24:58,090 --> 00:24:59,769 let me know. The Tamatina is said to 673 00:24:59,769 --> 00:25:02,250 have originated from a spontaneous bust up amongst 674 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:04,125 the villagers in 1945. 675 00:25:04,204 --> 00:25:05,884 So they were having an an some sort 676 00:25:05,884 --> 00:25:07,884 of argument and threw tomatoes at each other. 677 00:25:07,884 --> 00:25:09,085 Now this is why we should do this 678 00:25:09,085 --> 00:25:10,524 every year. Why not? I think this is 679 00:25:10,524 --> 00:25:12,525 a great to be kinda fun. And this 680 00:25:12,525 --> 00:25:14,204 is the way to solve problems. It really 681 00:25:14,204 --> 00:25:16,144 is. It really is. If you can't negotiate 682 00:25:16,204 --> 00:25:18,519 it, don't pick up a gun, you know. 683 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:20,440 Pick up a tomato. Just throw a tomato. 684 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,299 Hold out that tomato. Everyone's happy. 685 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,640 Oh. And let's just have some fun. Yeah. 686 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,160 Yeah. I love it. Sounds good to me. 687 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,920 Lower the temperature and maybe we can sit 688 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,315 down and talk the day after. Absolutely. There's 689 00:25:31,315 --> 00:25:33,315 got to be some towns in the in 690 00:25:33,315 --> 00:25:35,954 in this in The United States where that 691 00:25:35,954 --> 00:25:36,914 would be a very, 692 00:25:37,394 --> 00:25:39,315 very easy thing to do, you know, to 693 00:25:39,315 --> 00:25:40,835 to get the tomatoes out and throw them 694 00:25:40,835 --> 00:25:41,700 around. Mhmm. 695 00:25:42,259 --> 00:25:44,759 Well, you know, the again, agriculture, the strawberry 696 00:25:44,899 --> 00:25:47,940 festivals, the Yeah. The the the walnut festivals. 697 00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:49,539 I don't think I wanna be pummeled by 698 00:25:49,539 --> 00:25:51,539 walnuts, but That could be that could that 699 00:25:51,539 --> 00:25:53,089 could that could be that could be hard. 700 00:25:54,755 --> 00:25:56,994 And I'm thinking now also of one time 701 00:25:56,994 --> 00:25:58,694 when I was in again 702 00:25:58,994 --> 00:26:01,634 outside of The US on Thanksgiving, and this 703 00:26:01,634 --> 00:26:02,934 time I was in 704 00:26:03,234 --> 00:26:03,734 Israel. 705 00:26:04,514 --> 00:26:05,014 And 706 00:26:05,714 --> 00:26:07,095 while there was an acknowledgment 707 00:26:07,714 --> 00:26:08,190 that 708 00:26:08,990 --> 00:26:10,669 especially when people found out I was US 709 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:11,809 American, that 710 00:26:13,389 --> 00:26:15,549 there was a knowledge of Thanksgiving. Knowledge and 711 00:26:15,549 --> 00:26:16,929 more knowledge. The fact that I was 712 00:26:17,389 --> 00:26:19,409 not there, we discussed that. 713 00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:21,404 And I was in Israel doing work, 714 00:26:21,965 --> 00:26:23,965 But I was there doing work because we 715 00:26:23,965 --> 00:26:25,904 don't celebrate Thanksgiving in Israel. 716 00:26:27,244 --> 00:26:29,805 Is there a Thanksgiving though in Israel at 717 00:26:29,805 --> 00:26:31,904 another time? The holidays that are celebrated 718 00:26:32,205 --> 00:26:32,865 are usually, 719 00:26:34,539 --> 00:26:36,779 I think there's Independence Day and there and 720 00:26:36,779 --> 00:26:39,980 then there's all the depending on on your, 721 00:26:41,339 --> 00:26:44,240 your religion, you celebrate different religious holidays. 722 00:26:44,779 --> 00:26:46,559 Sure. Well, sure. If you're Jewish, 723 00:26:46,884 --> 00:26:48,404 you celebrate a lot of Jewish holidays. If 724 00:26:48,404 --> 00:26:50,085 you're Muslim, you celebrate the Muslim holiday. Of 725 00:26:50,085 --> 00:26:52,884 course. Christian, etcetera. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's 726 00:26:52,884 --> 00:26:54,744 where people do their celebrations. 727 00:26:55,204 --> 00:26:57,224 And I I would and probably the Thanksgiving 728 00:26:57,285 --> 00:26:59,009 of any kind would go within that. But 729 00:26:59,490 --> 00:27:01,910 I'm just wondering if because there are Thanksgiving 730 00:27:01,970 --> 00:27:03,990 holidays in several countries 731 00:27:05,089 --> 00:27:07,490 and Canada being one that we were talking 732 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:08,390 about in October. 733 00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:09,430 But 734 00:27:09,809 --> 00:27:11,670 I know that other countries do that 735 00:27:12,825 --> 00:27:14,045 and I'll tell you 736 00:27:14,984 --> 00:27:16,845 here's my depth of knowledge. 737 00:27:17,144 --> 00:27:19,464 Only because I have a calendar on my 738 00:27:19,464 --> 00:27:21,565 phone that pops up with those things 739 00:27:22,025 --> 00:27:24,125 and so I do see them. 740 00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:26,410 I know. That's it. That was my research 741 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:28,089 right there. Kind of pathetic, 742 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:30,250 but there you go. There you go. 743 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:33,509 Holidays of gratitude. I think it's a lovely 744 00:27:33,509 --> 00:27:34,730 idea. Sure. 745 00:27:35,509 --> 00:27:37,589 And I think it's nice that once a 746 00:27:37,589 --> 00:27:38,089 year 747 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:40,089 we're reminded of that idea 748 00:27:41,005 --> 00:27:43,005 of the need for that or the benefits 749 00:27:43,005 --> 00:27:45,105 of that? I would say it's very much 750 00:27:45,724 --> 00:27:48,444 telltale of the American culture, The U. S. 751 00:27:48,444 --> 00:27:48,944 Culture 752 00:27:49,565 --> 00:27:50,704 that we 753 00:27:51,484 --> 00:27:53,025 take a holiday 754 00:27:53,644 --> 00:27:55,105 supposedly at least 755 00:27:55,690 --> 00:27:57,049 designed and I know a lot of there's 756 00:27:57,049 --> 00:28:00,029 been a lot of, alterations of the realities 757 00:28:00,170 --> 00:28:02,330 of what really took place on the first 758 00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:03,930 Thanksgiving, but I think we're looking at that 759 00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:05,950 a little more carefully now. Nevertheless, 760 00:28:06,410 --> 00:28:08,509 we've taken it and co opted it into 761 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:09,045 a 762 00:28:09,525 --> 00:28:12,805 unbelievable numbers of football games, incredible amounts of 763 00:28:12,805 --> 00:28:14,404 stuffing our face like you were talking about 764 00:28:14,404 --> 00:28:15,625 before with food 765 00:28:15,924 --> 00:28:16,664 and drink 766 00:28:16,965 --> 00:28:17,465 and 767 00:28:18,325 --> 00:28:18,825 probably 768 00:28:19,205 --> 00:28:20,984 not getting along with our family. 769 00:28:22,085 --> 00:28:24,025 We basically have turned it into that holiday. 770 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:24,859 Also, 771 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,000 in this Well, that's a lot to be 772 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,059 grateful for, isn't 773 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,339 it? Yeah. 774 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,480 I mean, if I had to make a 775 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,799 list of what I'm grateful for Yeah. All 776 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:35,400 of those things would be right on the 777 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,380 top. Right. Right? Especially that football thing. 778 00:28:38,825 --> 00:28:40,424 And and and having to sit next to 779 00:28:40,424 --> 00:28:42,125 uncle Louie and listen to him. 780 00:28:42,424 --> 00:28:43,944 I mean, I am so grateful for that. 781 00:28:43,944 --> 00:28:46,184 Listening to him snore through something because he's 782 00:28:46,184 --> 00:28:47,545 had too much to eat. Snore through his 783 00:28:47,545 --> 00:28:49,384 cranberry sauce. Yes. Which is good because he 784 00:28:49,384 --> 00:28:51,384 was talking way too much at dinner table. 785 00:28:51,384 --> 00:28:51,690 Yes. 786 00:28:52,889 --> 00:28:54,669 But it's also turned into another 787 00:28:54,970 --> 00:28:56,829 really, really U. 788 00:28:57,929 --> 00:28:58,429 S. 789 00:28:58,970 --> 00:28:59,470 Based 790 00:29:00,329 --> 00:29:02,269 process, which is the beginning 791 00:29:02,889 --> 00:29:03,389 of 792 00:29:03,849 --> 00:29:04,669 the Christmas 793 00:29:05,444 --> 00:29:08,244 season of buying and shopping. Oh, you mean 794 00:29:08,244 --> 00:29:09,544 it became commoditized? 795 00:29:09,845 --> 00:29:12,825 Oh, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. 796 00:29:13,125 --> 00:29:15,704 Besides that we also do parades. We also 797 00:29:15,845 --> 00:29:17,384 love doing parades at Thanksgiving. 798 00:29:17,859 --> 00:29:19,079 How that all happened, 799 00:29:19,460 --> 00:29:20,659 no clue. But, 800 00:29:21,339 --> 00:29:23,880 but they're Philadelphia, New York, 801 00:29:25,299 --> 00:29:27,460 all around and throughout the country. Detroit, I 802 00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:27,960 know, 803 00:29:28,339 --> 00:29:30,819 has done them for many years. Well, let 804 00:29:30,819 --> 00:29:33,525 me tell you. I have been a clown 805 00:29:33,825 --> 00:29:36,545 in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade Well, not 806 00:29:36,545 --> 00:29:38,625 only in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. I'll 807 00:29:38,625 --> 00:29:41,125 tell you that. For several years running. 808 00:29:41,505 --> 00:29:42,404 And in fact, 809 00:29:43,105 --> 00:29:43,924 if you watch 810 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:46,069 now this year, I'm not gonna be a 811 00:29:46,069 --> 00:29:48,069 clown. But if you watch vid if you 812 00:29:48,069 --> 00:29:50,149 can see videos, I can show you videos 813 00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:52,230 of me doing this. Can you? Yes. I 814 00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:54,389 can. I'm I'm getting all excited about this 815 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:56,710 now. Wow. See? Alright. I think it's time 816 00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:59,095 to end this thing. And and and is 817 00:29:59,095 --> 00:30:01,095 there anything cultural about this other than the 818 00:30:01,095 --> 00:30:02,934 fact that I was I had been a 819 00:30:02,934 --> 00:30:03,434 clown 820 00:30:04,375 --> 00:30:05,355 running down 821 00:30:05,815 --> 00:30:06,714 running down, 822 00:30:07,174 --> 00:30:08,474 Central Park West 823 00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:12,470 in a clown outfit? Yeah. Yeah. On Thanksgiving 824 00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:15,190 morning was wonderful. But the best part about 825 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:15,690 this, 826 00:30:16,069 --> 00:30:17,450 if if you are 827 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:19,769 if you're a clown in the Macy's Thanksgiving 828 00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:21,210 Day parade Mhmm. 829 00:30:21,509 --> 00:30:23,269 Which is in New York City Yes. It 830 00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:24,889 is. And broadcast nationally. 831 00:30:25,589 --> 00:30:26,089 Mhmm. 832 00:30:26,865 --> 00:30:27,984 What you have to do is you have 833 00:30:27,984 --> 00:30:29,664 to get there at about four in the 834 00:30:29,664 --> 00:30:30,164 morning. 835 00:30:30,705 --> 00:30:32,464 And they put you in makeup and they 836 00:30:32,464 --> 00:30:34,545 put you in costume and then they send 837 00:30:34,545 --> 00:30:36,085 you up in a bus 838 00:30:37,025 --> 00:30:38,565 filled with other clowns. 839 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,180 To the Is it actually a very small 840 00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:43,660 car? No. Right? It's a large bus. Oh, 841 00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:45,039 okay. That's good. 842 00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:47,500 To take you up to the beginning of 843 00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:49,180 the parade, which is up, 844 00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:51,900 on Central Park West in the 82nd Street 845 00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:53,600 or something like that. Uh-huh. And 846 00:30:53,954 --> 00:30:56,054 there's absolutely nothing more surreal 847 00:30:56,595 --> 00:30:58,674 than being in a busload of clowns at 848 00:30:58,674 --> 00:31:01,414 four in the morning Yeah. Going up to 849 00:31:01,554 --> 00:31:04,294 the starting point of this parade. Yeah. It 850 00:31:04,515 --> 00:31:06,829 it was quite a quite an experience. I'm 851 00:31:06,829 --> 00:31:08,190 sure. And I loved it. It was great 852 00:31:08,190 --> 00:31:10,269 and I'm grateful for having done it. Mhmm. 853 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:12,130 Well, there I go to grateful again. 854 00:31:12,509 --> 00:31:14,509 Yes. There I am. See that? Yeah. I'll 855 00:31:14,509 --> 00:31:16,190 put that at the top of my Thanksgiving 856 00:31:16,190 --> 00:31:18,049 Day list. There you are. Wonderful. 857 00:31:19,174 --> 00:31:21,414 Wow. There's be a lot of members of 858 00:31:21,414 --> 00:31:23,575 your family that'll be very disappointed that your 859 00:31:23,575 --> 00:31:25,914 clown episode is on top of your grateful. 860 00:31:25,974 --> 00:31:28,214 Better than being with uncle Louie? Well, there's 861 00:31:28,214 --> 00:31:30,794 Louie. You bet. We all understand Louie. 862 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:39,150 Stay asleep, uncle Louie. Yeah. Don't. Yeah. Don't 863 00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:40,490 wake him up. Are there other times when 864 00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:42,490 you've been abroad during holidays that Yeah. That 865 00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:44,350 come to mind? Any other holidays? 866 00:31:44,744 --> 00:31:47,625 Been abroad on US holidays and then been 867 00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:50,664 fortunate to have been abroad during their local 868 00:31:50,664 --> 00:31:53,305 holiday. Yeah. Yeah. I remember one time being 869 00:31:53,305 --> 00:31:54,365 in Shanghai 870 00:31:55,144 --> 00:31:56,125 during the, 871 00:31:56,585 --> 00:31:57,085 Chinese 872 00:31:57,464 --> 00:31:59,005 New Year. Oh, really? 873 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:01,480 And and That must be very cool. It 874 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,859 was it was extremely 875 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,119 special because this goes back, oh, a number 876 00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:06,779 of years 877 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,299 when it was a special year in terms 878 00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:11,420 of the 879 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,119 the animal. Mhmm. Not only was it the 880 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:15,259 year of the pig, 881 00:32:15,625 --> 00:32:17,544 but it was because of the way the 882 00:32:17,544 --> 00:32:19,384 year fell out and it had something to 883 00:32:19,384 --> 00:32:20,184 do with with, 884 00:32:20,505 --> 00:32:21,484 Chinese astrology. 885 00:32:22,184 --> 00:32:24,025 It was the year of the special pig, 886 00:32:24,025 --> 00:32:26,585 and and I don't recall how that was 887 00:32:26,585 --> 00:32:29,019 designated. But so this became 888 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,419 a a really special celebration 889 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:32,940 of the annual 890 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,220 spring holiday, which is Chinese New Year's, 891 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,779 the the Lunar New Year in China. And, 892 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,859 walking through 893 00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:42,539 all of Shanghai, 894 00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:45,075 there were these huge lanterns, 895 00:32:46,014 --> 00:32:46,755 of pigs. 896 00:32:48,255 --> 00:32:51,294 Happy, happy face pigs. Very pleasant pigs. Cartoon 897 00:32:51,294 --> 00:32:52,514 pigs. Yeah. Wonderful. 898 00:32:52,974 --> 00:32:54,194 Pigs enjoying themselves. 899 00:32:54,575 --> 00:32:57,054 Yeah. Being celebrated because they were all going 900 00:32:57,054 --> 00:32:58,289 to be eaten. They were gonna be eaten 901 00:32:58,289 --> 00:33:00,049 whether it was a holiday or not. Right. 902 00:33:00,049 --> 00:33:00,869 Right. Right. 903 00:33:02,369 --> 00:33:04,769 And, in Shanghai, they have a they have 904 00:33:04,769 --> 00:33:05,990 a particular food. 905 00:33:06,450 --> 00:33:08,929 You can get it just about everywhere all 906 00:33:08,929 --> 00:33:11,035 year long. It's it's kind of a a 907 00:33:11,035 --> 00:33:11,535 Shanghai 908 00:33:12,154 --> 00:33:13,055 noodle dish, 909 00:33:15,115 --> 00:33:17,355 a dump a dumpling. I'm sorry. More of 910 00:33:17,355 --> 00:33:19,934 a dumpling than a noodle. And I remember 911 00:33:20,715 --> 00:33:24,174 this became the symbol of celebrating the holiday 912 00:33:24,609 --> 00:33:26,130 while I was there. And you could go 913 00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:26,630 anywhere, 914 00:33:27,009 --> 00:33:29,409 walk up to a stand, order these Chinese, 915 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:31,109 the the Shanghai dumplings, 916 00:33:31,569 --> 00:33:34,549 and they they come with a straw. Mhmm. 917 00:33:34,609 --> 00:33:37,214 So it's like in a cup, and there's 918 00:33:37,214 --> 00:33:39,154 this big dumpling in a broth 919 00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:42,095 and there's a straw that sticks in the 920 00:33:42,095 --> 00:33:42,595 dumpling 921 00:33:43,295 --> 00:33:46,194 and you suck the broth through the dumpling. 922 00:33:46,815 --> 00:33:48,755 Is this a is this a 923 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,359 larger than than ordinary straw that we would 924 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,119 assume would be an ordinary sized straw or 925 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,440 is this more than an ordinary dumpling? Okay. 926 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,440 No. It was and and kind of like 927 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,119 a regular sized dumpling. If you were lucky, 928 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:01,400 maybe you got two or three in your 929 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,684 cup. Okay. Okay. 930 00:34:03,245 --> 00:34:04,845 But you stick it through in the dumpling 931 00:34:04,845 --> 00:34:06,765 and you suck the broth up through the 932 00:34:06,765 --> 00:34:09,744 dumpling and through the straw. Okay. Which is 933 00:34:10,445 --> 00:34:11,744 sometimes easy, sometimes 934 00:34:12,045 --> 00:34:14,065 not easy. Yeah. Yeah. And 935 00:34:14,445 --> 00:34:14,909 and 936 00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:17,230 it becomes a little bit of a balancing 937 00:34:17,230 --> 00:34:19,889 act the way because you're eating this basically 938 00:34:19,949 --> 00:34:21,549 on the on the go. You're walking through 939 00:34:21,549 --> 00:34:23,089 the streets. There's a big celebration. 940 00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:24,369 And 941 00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:26,109 the the folks that I was with were 942 00:34:26,109 --> 00:34:26,849 having difficulty 943 00:34:27,469 --> 00:34:28,289 with this, and 944 00:34:28,784 --> 00:34:30,804 it became quite a messy situation 945 00:34:31,264 --> 00:34:32,964 Sure. With broth and dumplings, 946 00:34:33,264 --> 00:34:33,925 you know, 947 00:34:34,304 --> 00:34:37,284 flying about and cartoon pig lanterns 948 00:34:38,304 --> 00:34:40,304 above us. Mhmm. I think we also had 949 00:34:40,304 --> 00:34:43,940 some drinks beforehand too. So Wow. I'm surprised. 950 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,400 One more challenge. That that heightened the entire 951 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,900 experience. 952 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:50,739 Oh, that well 953 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:52,660 well, you know what? It's 954 00:34:53,054 --> 00:34:55,135 It's kind of interesting that that was about 955 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:56,355 a special pig, 956 00:34:57,054 --> 00:34:58,414 in the sense that It was the year 957 00:34:58,414 --> 00:34:59,614 of the pig, the year of the special 958 00:34:59,614 --> 00:35:01,054 pig. Year of the special pig. 959 00:35:01,614 --> 00:35:03,135 That I see that the pig is the 960 00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:03,635 twelfth 961 00:35:03,934 --> 00:35:05,234 animal in the 962 00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:07,969 zodiac sequence and then that's the last. The 963 00:35:07,969 --> 00:35:09,670 last one. Sure. It's going 964 00:35:09,969 --> 00:35:11,909 to reset again after that. And, 965 00:35:12,769 --> 00:35:14,710 well, in that special pig, 966 00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:16,849 we're all kind of special pigs in The 967 00:35:16,849 --> 00:35:18,150 United States on Thanksgiving. 968 00:35:19,255 --> 00:35:21,014 So Or so yeah. See how I brought 969 00:35:21,014 --> 00:35:21,494 that back there? So we 970 00:35:22,215 --> 00:35:23,494 I kind of brought it all back to 971 00:35:23,494 --> 00:35:25,494 that. And and pretty much acting like a 972 00:35:25,494 --> 00:35:27,414 bunch of turkeys. Well, that way That's for 973 00:35:27,414 --> 00:35:29,335 sure. Without a doubt. Although, I don't know 974 00:35:29,335 --> 00:35:31,815 that that's special for for Thanksgiving. Pigs acting 975 00:35:31,815 --> 00:35:33,114 like turkeys though. 976 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:37,030 I'd like to see it. Would you? Well, 977 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:39,050 we could probably put that show together actually. 978 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:41,909 We're touring with that, next year. It's not 979 00:35:41,909 --> 00:35:43,289 wordplay. It's mixed metaphor. 980 00:35:43,590 --> 00:35:44,409 Mixed metaphor 981 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:48,250 metaphor. Also, before you were doing some semantic 982 00:35:49,175 --> 00:35:52,074 satiation satiation. You've mentioned this before, Dean. Satiation. 983 00:35:52,614 --> 00:35:54,454 Satiation. Satiation. Satiation. Where you say things so 984 00:35:54,454 --> 00:35:56,054 many times that they lose their meaning. That's 985 00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:57,815 that's what you were doing before. Yes. The 986 00:35:57,815 --> 00:35:59,755 wordplay. Yes. That's Semantic satiation. 987 00:36:00,869 --> 00:36:05,430 It's gotta be a fear. Semantic satiation. Semantic 988 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:05,930 satiation. 989 00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:08,789 I don't know. That was that needs work. 990 00:36:08,789 --> 00:36:10,470 That needs work. We'll find it. Yeah. That 991 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:11,670 needs a little work. I don't know if 992 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:13,590 I've lost the meaning of that or just 993 00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:16,045 am eager to forget it. Yeah. All of 994 00:36:16,045 --> 00:36:17,485 the above, I'd say. Not sure where I 995 00:36:17,485 --> 00:36:18,045 stand there. 996 00:36:18,765 --> 00:36:19,805 Well, look, I've 997 00:36:20,844 --> 00:36:23,265 I'm I'm very thankful for this podcast. 998 00:36:23,885 --> 00:36:26,125 As am I. How about that? As am 999 00:36:26,125 --> 00:36:28,380 I. And Now we've been doing this now 1000 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:28,699 for, 1001 00:36:29,260 --> 00:36:31,579 A hundred and twelve years. Six months? A 1002 00:36:31,579 --> 00:36:34,219 year? Two years? Oh, no. Much more than 1003 00:36:34,219 --> 00:36:35,199 six months. Eighteen. 1004 00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:38,219 I was gonna say, yeah. We we've got, 1005 00:36:38,219 --> 00:36:40,514 like, four years in this sucker. Wow. And 1006 00:36:40,514 --> 00:36:42,635 and we're very grateful to you, our listeners 1007 00:36:42,914 --> 00:36:43,815 Yeah. Absolutely. 1008 00:36:44,114 --> 00:36:44,934 For subscribing 1009 00:36:45,234 --> 00:36:48,275 and for listening to this nonsense. Absolutely. And 1010 00:36:48,275 --> 00:36:50,755 us and and tell others, please. And letting 1011 00:36:50,755 --> 00:36:53,190 us know, when we're on track with you 1012 00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:55,429 and when we're not. And we make mistakes, 1013 00:36:55,429 --> 00:36:57,750 let us know. We'll ignore you, but let 1014 00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:00,630 us know. We make mistakes? No. Reach out 1015 00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:02,250 anytime. But they think maybe. 1016 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:05,609 Placate them. Come on, Dean. 1017 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:09,375 And hopefully, everyone has a lovely thanks giving 1018 00:37:09,375 --> 00:37:11,135 today. Absolutely. For those of you who are 1019 00:37:11,135 --> 00:37:13,215 listening today, yes. Or if you're listening or 1020 00:37:13,215 --> 00:37:14,994 if you're listening next Labor Day, 1021 00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:17,054 have a nice Labor Day. Have a nice 1022 00:37:17,054 --> 00:37:18,414 Labor Day and and 1023 00:37:19,215 --> 00:37:21,934 Unless you're listening on Canadian Labor Day. Uh-huh. 1024 00:37:21,934 --> 00:37:23,579 Well, and then you can have that good 1025 00:37:23,579 --> 00:37:25,539 Labor Day there too. And look forward to 1026 00:37:25,739 --> 00:37:28,160 Or if you happen to be in labor 1027 00:37:28,219 --> 00:37:30,460 right now and are want are listening to 1028 00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:32,460 our podcast as part of that, which you 1029 00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:34,219 certainly could. Well, listen to the podcast doing 1030 00:37:34,219 --> 00:37:36,635 all sorts of different things. Absolutely. Sure. I'd 1031 00:37:36,635 --> 00:37:38,635 like to know what what what you What 1032 00:37:38,635 --> 00:37:40,074 do you what do you do when you 1033 00:37:40,074 --> 00:37:42,074 listen to to the podcast? Let us know. 1034 00:37:42,074 --> 00:37:43,355 We would love for you to let us 1035 00:37:43,355 --> 00:37:44,635 know. We'll let you know how to let 1036 00:37:44,635 --> 00:37:45,835 us know. Yeah. You'll hear you'll hear how 1037 00:37:45,835 --> 00:37:47,355 that reach out. I think that'll work. Why 1038 00:37:47,355 --> 00:37:48,414 is this an activity 1039 00:37:48,795 --> 00:37:51,440 that you like to listen to the podcast 1040 00:37:52,219 --> 00:37:53,840 during? Uh-huh. Yeah. 1041 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,219 Okay. I'd like to know that. I I 1042 00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,400 maybe we'll hear from a pig who's impersonating 1043 00:37:58,539 --> 00:38:00,460 a turkey. Any pigs? Reach out. On Labor 1044 00:38:00,460 --> 00:38:02,320 Day. On Labor Day or in labor. 1045 00:38:03,045 --> 00:38:04,085 All of the above. You can see in 1046 00:38:04,085 --> 00:38:05,684 the stats, we have lots of pregnant pigs. 1047 00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:08,425 We do. We do. Yeah. So reach out? 1048 00:38:08,964 --> 00:38:11,144 Well, Dean Foster. And Tom Peterson. 1049 00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,105 Once again, it appears that, 1050 00:38:15,329 --> 00:38:15,829 oops, 1051 00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:17,750 your culture's showing. 1052 00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:19,430 Smell you. 1053 00:38:29,224 --> 00:38:30,204 Okay. 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