1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,679 Cheryl and I went to Italy on our 2 00:00:01,679 --> 00:00:02,819 honeymoon, and 3 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:04,179 we were 4 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:05,299 in Rome. 5 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,720 And at the time, you know, we're young, 6 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,539 and we don't 7 00:00:09,919 --> 00:00:10,160 have 8 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,779 we're we're on Arthur Frommer's Europe on $5 9 00:00:13,919 --> 00:00:15,439 a day, or maybe at this point, it 10 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:15,794 was 11 00:00:16,274 --> 00:00:18,614 $15 a day or something like that. Right. 12 00:00:19,315 --> 00:00:20,054 We land. 13 00:00:20,755 --> 00:00:23,255 We wanna get something. It's kind of lunchtime 14 00:00:23,315 --> 00:00:24,934 by the time we get into the, 15 00:00:25,314 --> 00:00:28,035 and we walk around the corner. Where are 16 00:00:28,035 --> 00:00:29,795 we going? I don't know. Let's just see 17 00:00:29,795 --> 00:00:30,855 what we have here. 18 00:00:31,190 --> 00:00:33,030 And walk down the street, and there's a 19 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:33,850 little trattoria. 20 00:00:34,229 --> 00:00:35,370 And we walk in, 21 00:00:35,829 --> 00:00:37,929 and there's a case of artichokes, 22 00:00:38,390 --> 00:00:41,370 the most magnificent looking artichokes you've ever seen, 23 00:00:41,429 --> 00:00:41,929 stuffed 24 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:45,750 and served on on this beautiful little white 25 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:46,250 plate. 26 00:00:46,935 --> 00:00:47,914 And we ordered 27 00:00:48,454 --> 00:00:49,274 1 artichoke, 28 00:00:50,695 --> 00:00:53,274 a glass of wine, and spent the entire 29 00:00:53,335 --> 00:00:54,554 afternoon having 30 00:00:55,975 --> 00:00:58,234 one of the best meals of our lives 31 00:00:58,454 --> 00:00:59,914 in this small little trattoria, 32 00:01:00,535 --> 00:01:03,909 like the Italian equivalent of a delicatessen. Right. 33 00:01:04,209 --> 00:01:05,890 And it kind of reminds me of this 34 00:01:05,890 --> 00:01:07,730 whole search that I think a lot of 35 00:01:07,730 --> 00:01:10,530 people do when they go somewhere and they're 36 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:11,430 into the food 37 00:01:11,730 --> 00:01:14,069 and they wanna find this that special 38 00:01:14,530 --> 00:01:17,424 mom and pop shop, that little hole in 39 00:01:17,424 --> 00:01:19,525 the wall, that that A little more local 40 00:01:19,665 --> 00:01:21,924 type of thing. It it really reflects 41 00:01:22,465 --> 00:01:26,004 not just the local flavor, but the absolute 42 00:01:26,224 --> 00:01:28,704 best of the of the local flavor. Sure. 43 00:01:28,704 --> 00:01:31,045 Yeah. And you can find these places 44 00:01:31,549 --> 00:01:32,049 everywhere 45 00:01:32,670 --> 00:01:33,730 where you're getting 46 00:01:34,030 --> 00:01:34,850 the authentic 47 00:01:35,549 --> 00:01:36,049 food 48 00:01:36,829 --> 00:01:38,290 and the authentic cuisine, 49 00:01:38,829 --> 00:01:41,230 and you're getting probably one of the best 50 00:01:41,230 --> 00:01:43,469 meals of your life. Right. Right. And it 51 00:01:43,469 --> 00:01:45,954 could be standing by a food truck. Mhmm. 52 00:01:46,255 --> 00:01:48,895 Or it could be a fairly high grade 53 00:01:48,895 --> 00:01:49,395 restaurant. 54 00:01:50,015 --> 00:01:51,314 But whatever it is, 55 00:01:51,615 --> 00:01:52,755 it's that combination 56 00:01:53,454 --> 00:01:53,954 of 57 00:01:54,415 --> 00:01:56,034 authentic local flavor, 58 00:01:56,655 --> 00:01:57,155 and 59 00:01:57,694 --> 00:01:58,674 the whole experience 60 00:01:59,409 --> 00:02:00,930 makes it one of the best meals of 61 00:02:00,930 --> 00:02:03,650 your life. Nice. Right. Nice. Okay. So And 62 00:02:03,810 --> 00:02:05,490 Are we thinking we're doing, like, a food 63 00:02:05,490 --> 00:02:08,210 travel show, like, for for one's ears? Is 64 00:02:08,210 --> 00:02:10,210 that the the audible world. Kinda find the 65 00:02:10,210 --> 00:02:12,449 hole in the wall places that folks don't 66 00:02:12,449 --> 00:02:15,224 know about? Sure. Don't know about. Well, lots 67 00:02:15,224 --> 00:02:16,905 of people do know about them. I mean, 68 00:02:16,905 --> 00:02:18,985 I think this But in our general audience, 69 00:02:18,985 --> 00:02:20,745 probably, there's a lot of people that Well, 70 00:02:20,745 --> 00:02:22,425 I could say about places that I've been, 71 00:02:22,425 --> 00:02:24,425 you know, that I think Cool. Well, we'll 72 00:02:24,425 --> 00:02:26,025 take some places you've been. Sure. Okay. I'm 73 00:02:26,025 --> 00:02:27,705 thinking of I'm thinking of a place in 74 00:02:27,705 --> 00:02:29,959 Hanoi in Vietnam. No. That's not a good 75 00:02:29,959 --> 00:02:31,340 one. No. Moving on. 76 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,759 I guess we're talking about this because 77 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,620 Oh. Oops. 78 00:02:37,239 --> 00:02:38,699 Your culture's showing. 79 00:02:45,965 --> 00:02:48,544 And I'm Dean Foster. And I'm Tom Peterson. 80 00:02:48,764 --> 00:02:49,664 And I'm Torren. 81 00:02:50,205 --> 00:02:51,805 Hey. It was one of the best meals 82 00:02:51,805 --> 00:02:54,224 of my life. Okay. And it reflected, 83 00:02:54,844 --> 00:02:55,905 you know, the absolute 84 00:02:56,419 --> 00:02:57,959 Oh. Best of the local 85 00:02:58,340 --> 00:03:00,419 local cuisine. And this was just another little 86 00:03:00,419 --> 00:03:01,860 place. Is this the place you talked about 87 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:03,539 maybe a few episodes ago? Is that right? 88 00:03:03,539 --> 00:03:05,539 Did I mention? I think so. In yeah. 89 00:03:05,539 --> 00:03:07,459 In in Hanoi. Yes. I think you mentioned 90 00:03:07,459 --> 00:03:08,979 that. The restaurant is What was the name 91 00:03:08,979 --> 00:03:11,354 of it? Chaka Lavang. Yes. You did. Yep. 92 00:03:11,354 --> 00:03:14,495 And, it's really just a small local place, 93 00:03:15,115 --> 00:03:15,935 an unobtrusive. 94 00:03:16,235 --> 00:03:18,634 You know, you you never you never know 95 00:03:18,634 --> 00:03:20,555 that it that it's the place you wanna 96 00:03:20,555 --> 00:03:21,534 go to. Yeah. 97 00:03:22,555 --> 00:03:24,235 And I mean It's it's so let me 98 00:03:24,235 --> 00:03:25,995 ask you a question about something like that. 99 00:03:25,995 --> 00:03:27,520 You you most travelers, 100 00:03:27,819 --> 00:03:28,939 I think, people, 101 00:03:29,420 --> 00:03:31,260 and I'm gonna talk from the from the 102 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:32,080 US perspective. 103 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:34,159 Most travelers 104 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:36,080 in in foreign lands, 105 00:03:37,020 --> 00:03:39,954 unless they're, you know, very well versed in 106 00:03:39,954 --> 00:03:42,194 it, maybe for whatever reasons. They're very well 107 00:03:42,194 --> 00:03:43,894 versed in the culture and 108 00:03:44,194 --> 00:03:46,034 and in the in the area that they 109 00:03:46,034 --> 00:03:48,294 happen to be in. When they see 110 00:03:48,754 --> 00:03:51,414 something that doesn't look like a, 111 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,020 you know, a a very nice restaurant 112 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:57,120 or something along those lines, which you might 113 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,560 be in a town. I I have been 114 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,639 in smaller towns in Europe and so forth 115 00:04:00,639 --> 00:04:03,599 where you you don't necessarily seize anything like 116 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:06,175 that. You you see these little places, and 117 00:04:06,175 --> 00:04:08,514 that's it. That's because you're using the criteria 118 00:04:08,655 --> 00:04:12,094 of I don't know anything here, so I'm 119 00:04:12,094 --> 00:04:14,174 just gonna go for the safe one, which 120 00:04:14,174 --> 00:04:16,095 is like looks familiar. The thing that either 121 00:04:16,095 --> 00:04:18,894 looks familiar or looks clean Yes. Or, you 122 00:04:18,894 --> 00:04:21,060 know, And that's because you don't you have 123 00:04:21,060 --> 00:04:23,139 no other field of reference. And that's that's 124 00:04:23,139 --> 00:04:25,540 my question. Right? My field of reference is 125 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:28,120 just the opposite. The dirtier and the scrubbier, 126 00:04:28,339 --> 00:04:29,939 I I don't wanna get in. I you 127 00:04:29,939 --> 00:04:30,680 know? Because 128 00:04:31,379 --> 00:04:33,564 because So it's it's showing. It kind of, 129 00:04:33,564 --> 00:04:35,485 like, pushes some away, but it appeals to 130 00:04:35,485 --> 00:04:37,324 you. Which is just as kind of, 131 00:04:38,125 --> 00:04:40,625 ignorant, I think, because it could be dangerous, 132 00:04:40,845 --> 00:04:42,685 and you can get sick there. Absolutely. And 133 00:04:42,685 --> 00:04:44,444 I have. You could find some real gems 134 00:04:44,444 --> 00:04:46,365 that way. Yeah. They would Well, it's a 135 00:04:46,365 --> 00:04:48,040 little bit of a Russian roulette. It is 136 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,199 a Russian roulette, but I will always opt 137 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:51,879 for the one that looks a little funky 138 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:53,319 as opposed to the one that looks a 139 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:55,480 little clean. Concavity. Yeah. I think I think 140 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,699 you because the upside 141 00:04:57,319 --> 00:04:58,139 is is 142 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,020 great. 143 00:04:59,654 --> 00:05:01,574 The these little kinda I'm gonna use the 144 00:05:01,574 --> 00:05:04,055 term dive because it has a negative connotation 145 00:05:04,055 --> 00:05:05,175 to it, but I think Which I like. 146 00:05:05,334 --> 00:05:06,694 But they can be I've been in dives 147 00:05:06,694 --> 00:05:08,535 that have just been great. Dives can be 148 00:05:08,535 --> 00:05:10,055 real fun. Yeah. Yeah. Real good stuff. It 149 00:05:10,055 --> 00:05:11,415 could be fun, but they they can also 150 00:05:11,415 --> 00:05:11,980 be Right. They can also be Right. They 151 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:12,078 can also be Right. They can also be 152 00:05:12,086 --> 00:05:12,175 Right. They can also be Right. They can 153 00:05:12,175 --> 00:05:13,029 also be when you don't quite know what 154 00:05:13,029 --> 00:05:15,910 you're getting from abroad. Particularly out of your 155 00:05:15,910 --> 00:05:19,270 own element without any cues whatsoever Yep. It 156 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:21,990 could be a little dicey, and maybe it 157 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:22,810 it will be, 158 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:26,230 not so great. Right. Maybe you will get 159 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:28,454 a little bug, but maybe you'll even get 160 00:05:28,454 --> 00:05:30,535 a bad bug. I don't know. I'm gonna 161 00:05:30,535 --> 00:05:33,014 always opt for the take the I'm gonna 162 00:05:33,014 --> 00:05:35,115 take the risk. Maybe a mediocre bug. 163 00:05:35,814 --> 00:05:38,535 Go for it. Hey. I'm Sylvia. Talk about 164 00:05:38,535 --> 00:05:39,975 it, and I've had some of those bugs. 165 00:05:39,975 --> 00:05:41,814 That bug might be good. Yeah. Sure. Don't 166 00:05:41,814 --> 00:05:43,709 turn the bug down. Hey. The bug man 167 00:05:43,709 --> 00:05:45,790 in in Bangkok. Now he was The bug 168 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:47,709 man in Bangkok. That's gonna be my new 169 00:05:47,709 --> 00:05:49,230 book, I think. It's gonna be the bug 170 00:05:49,230 --> 00:05:51,310 man in Bangkok. He's a guy. Thank you. 171 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:52,290 He's on there. 172 00:05:53,069 --> 00:05:54,750 I'm sure he's got a lot of competition 173 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:56,769 now, but I remember when we were there, 174 00:05:57,345 --> 00:05:59,425 there was this guy on the street corner, 175 00:05:59,425 --> 00:06:01,764 and and he was selling bugs 176 00:06:02,145 --> 00:06:04,245 right on the street Uh-huh. Which are these 177 00:06:04,305 --> 00:06:05,444 huge I mean, 178 00:06:05,904 --> 00:06:07,125 some of them were cockroaches, 179 00:06:07,585 --> 00:06:09,904 but others were on skewers. They were just 180 00:06:09,904 --> 00:06:11,525 big beetle type things, 181 00:06:12,180 --> 00:06:13,699 and a lot of places around the world. 182 00:06:13,699 --> 00:06:15,860 These were cooked. Yeah. Oh, they'd cooked and 183 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:17,800 and cooked good deliciously. 184 00:06:18,259 --> 00:06:20,500 Actually, the kids would run by the little 185 00:06:20,660 --> 00:06:22,420 you know, the kids on the street would 186 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:24,210 run by and steal a little 187 00:06:25,134 --> 00:06:27,535 grub, you know, because he's also got grubs. 188 00:06:27,535 --> 00:06:30,175 So it's on it's on skewers Mhmm. Out 189 00:06:30,415 --> 00:06:32,915 like a open barbecue. Mhmm. And 190 00:06:34,254 --> 00:06:36,975 and and they've got you know, it it's 191 00:06:36,975 --> 00:06:39,795 being cooked over charcoal with garlic 192 00:06:40,509 --> 00:06:43,310 and salt, and it's crispy. Sounds good to 193 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:45,870 me. Unless you had some reason not to 194 00:06:45,870 --> 00:06:48,029 wanna eat a bug, you're gonna wanna eat 195 00:06:48,029 --> 00:06:50,610 this. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's already tasty. 196 00:06:50,669 --> 00:06:52,954 Mhmm. Oh, yeah. You know? Sounds good. 197 00:06:53,814 --> 00:06:55,175 So I think I think the bug man 198 00:06:55,175 --> 00:06:56,694 of Bangkok now has got a whole bunch 199 00:06:56,694 --> 00:06:57,194 of 200 00:06:57,654 --> 00:06:58,154 competitors. 201 00:06:58,535 --> 00:07:00,134 Sure. But when we were there That sounds 202 00:07:00,134 --> 00:07:01,354 like a very old, 203 00:07:02,535 --> 00:07:05,035 way of of of cooking and and serving 204 00:07:05,095 --> 00:07:05,519 stuff 205 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:08,560 in those regions that they that that's not 206 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,319 something they came up with, like, you know, 207 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,240 5 years ago or something like that. We're 208 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 we're eating these these creatures because there's a 209 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,599 they're a source of protein. Mhmm. And in 210 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:19,360 lots of cultures around the world, we're eating 211 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,975 insects in one form or another. Sure. Yeah. 212 00:07:21,975 --> 00:07:22,475 Grasshoppers. 213 00:07:23,175 --> 00:07:24,074 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 214 00:07:24,375 --> 00:07:24,875 Yep. 215 00:07:25,254 --> 00:07:27,574 Snails? Are we getting closer to western cuisine? 216 00:07:27,574 --> 00:07:29,915 We're we're drifting into France now with Escargot. 217 00:07:30,134 --> 00:07:31,654 We'll just call it that, and it sounds 218 00:07:31,654 --> 00:07:33,779 a lot better than snails. Snails are insects, 219 00:07:33,779 --> 00:07:36,980 But No. But they're they can be very 220 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:38,360 not 221 00:07:39,060 --> 00:07:41,220 something you maybe wanna eat if you're knowing 222 00:07:41,220 --> 00:07:42,660 it's a snail and you look at the 223 00:07:42,660 --> 00:07:44,740 slimy little thing. I guess I'm mentioning this 224 00:07:44,740 --> 00:07:46,759 because it's all on a spectrum. 225 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:49,835 Right? Yeah. And so you can And that's 226 00:07:49,835 --> 00:07:51,754 really where we're going right here. Yeah. We're 227 00:07:51,754 --> 00:07:53,355 looking for the little places, and you're talking 228 00:07:53,355 --> 00:07:54,415 about street food 229 00:07:54,795 --> 00:07:56,555 and that kind of thing. And even in 230 00:07:56,555 --> 00:07:58,154 New York, you can get really good street 231 00:07:58,154 --> 00:08:00,074 food. You can also get really lousy street 232 00:08:00,074 --> 00:08:02,709 food, but you can get some wonderful stuff. 233 00:08:02,709 --> 00:08:04,790 But if you're open and want to really 234 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:05,290 explore, 235 00:08:05,669 --> 00:08:08,389 and some place looks authentic and interesting, you 236 00:08:08,389 --> 00:08:10,410 can also ask someone. Absolutely. 237 00:08:10,870 --> 00:08:12,949 I think so. We get ourselves tied up 238 00:08:12,949 --> 00:08:15,850 with this stuff, and we become less exploratory 239 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:18,089 because of 240 00:08:18,865 --> 00:08:20,805 the fear of the unknown. Right. 241 00:08:21,425 --> 00:08:22,884 And and I think that 242 00:08:23,745 --> 00:08:25,904 we're always gonna be much more successful when 243 00:08:25,904 --> 00:08:27,205 we travel if we 244 00:08:29,185 --> 00:08:32,840 if we ask humbly and sincerely. Right. Come 245 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,500 from a place of curiosity. And and and 246 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:38,519 and humility. Yeah. Yes. And so that you're 247 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:41,480 indicating that you're open to new and different 248 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,419 things. So the Hanoi restaurant, 249 00:08:43,764 --> 00:08:45,445 Dean, how did you find out about it? 250 00:08:45,445 --> 00:08:47,684 Did you ask somebody? We we had heard 251 00:08:47,684 --> 00:08:50,245 about it Okay. Fortunately before we left. Oh, 252 00:08:50,245 --> 00:08:51,544 okay. Someone, 253 00:08:52,084 --> 00:08:54,725 who'd who'd been to Vietnam many times Nice. 254 00:08:54,804 --> 00:08:56,824 Told us about it. Okay. And, 255 00:08:57,125 --> 00:08:59,350 when we got there, oh, it was everything 256 00:08:59,350 --> 00:09:01,509 I'd hoped it to be. It looked really 257 00:09:01,509 --> 00:09:04,230 kinda run down. Right. Right. And then the 258 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:06,629 food smelled great. Which is perfect because you're 259 00:09:06,629 --> 00:09:08,949 not gonna get a lot of tourists and 260 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:10,870 No. Not gonna be too crowded probably, but 261 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:12,955 it's gonna be incredible. One of the one 262 00:09:12,955 --> 00:09:14,654 of the rules that I have for myself 263 00:09:14,715 --> 00:09:16,875 is when I travel to Asia, I always 264 00:09:16,875 --> 00:09:17,595 bring along, 265 00:09:17,915 --> 00:09:18,415 particularly 266 00:09:18,875 --> 00:09:21,514 those countries that use chopsticks. Mhmm. And there 267 00:09:21,514 --> 00:09:23,514 are many Mhmm. That are influenced by Chinese 268 00:09:23,514 --> 00:09:24,014 culture. 269 00:09:24,475 --> 00:09:25,294 So China, 270 00:09:27,509 --> 00:09:28,009 Myanmar, 271 00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:30,809 Taiwan, Vietnam. 272 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:34,389 So I always bring my own chopsticks with 273 00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:36,789 me. In case I find myself somewhere where 274 00:09:36,789 --> 00:09:38,490 I'm not so comfortable about, 275 00:09:38,884 --> 00:09:40,404 I wanna try the food, but I'm not 276 00:09:40,404 --> 00:09:42,325 so comfortable about the level of cleanliness of 277 00:09:42,325 --> 00:09:44,085 the restaurant. Oh, sure. I can use my 278 00:09:44,085 --> 00:09:45,445 own chopsticks. Yeah. I was out here. I'm 279 00:09:45,445 --> 00:09:46,985 not gonna take out my own chopsticks 280 00:09:47,605 --> 00:09:50,325 at a, quote, unquote, fancy restaurant because that's 281 00:09:50,325 --> 00:09:51,144 not an issue 282 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:53,100 there. Right? But 283 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:55,120 and Japan and Korea, 284 00:09:55,580 --> 00:09:56,240 same thing. But 285 00:09:57,339 --> 00:09:58,080 in local, 286 00:09:58,460 --> 00:09:59,759 quote, unquote, dives 287 00:10:00,220 --> 00:10:02,399 or family run places, I 288 00:10:02,779 --> 00:10:04,379 sometimes I like to use my own chopsticks. 289 00:10:04,379 --> 00:10:06,320 So I always travel with my own. Mhmm. 290 00:10:07,464 --> 00:10:09,784 But at Chocolavang, I didn't even feel that. 291 00:10:09,784 --> 00:10:11,784 I just felt like this place is gonna 292 00:10:11,784 --> 00:10:13,164 be good. Mhmm. And 293 00:10:13,704 --> 00:10:15,384 so I went with my instincts, and it 294 00:10:15,384 --> 00:10:17,625 was, and it was wonderful. But some of 295 00:10:17,625 --> 00:10:19,144 the people I was travelling with, 296 00:10:19,784 --> 00:10:22,279 they they were less adventurous. Do you remember 297 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:23,100 what you ate? 298 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,240 No. It was a long time ago. It 299 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,440 was just but it was just real good. 300 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,519 They I do remember that they had 1 301 00:10:28,519 --> 00:10:30,840 or 2 specialties that they were known for. 302 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Okay. And we knew that, and we asked 303 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,399 for that. Oh, nice. That was smart. Yeah. 304 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:36,075 So that was 305 00:10:36,634 --> 00:10:38,075 And and, yeah, it worked out, obviously. And 306 00:10:38,075 --> 00:10:39,674 that that also goes to a little bit 307 00:10:39,674 --> 00:10:41,835 of education ahead of time as opposed to 308 00:10:41,835 --> 00:10:43,215 just taking a flyer 309 00:10:43,995 --> 00:10:46,154 on something that's there, but that others have 310 00:10:46,154 --> 00:10:47,915 said to you, yes. I did this Yeah. 311 00:10:47,915 --> 00:10:50,159 Word-of-mouth. And really found it. I mean, that's 312 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:52,720 whether you're going into a foreign culture, you're 313 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,740 going into a culture that is just 314 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,199 I don't I'm not gonna say foreign, but 315 00:10:57,199 --> 00:11:00,879 not your normal places to be. In other 316 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:02,399 words, you may be in your that you're 317 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:05,295 familiar with. Exactly. Okay. So so sorry. Dion, 318 00:11:05,295 --> 00:11:07,215 I looked up choco laveong, and I'm seeing 319 00:11:07,215 --> 00:11:09,394 it's a grilled fish dish. 320 00:11:09,774 --> 00:11:12,335 So maybe that's maybe that's what what you 321 00:11:12,335 --> 00:11:14,735 had. Yeah. Yep. Sounds right. That would be 322 00:11:14,735 --> 00:11:17,295 their specialty. Right. That's specialty. Originally from Hanoi. 323 00:11:17,295 --> 00:11:18,195 There you go. 324 00:11:18,735 --> 00:11:19,860 Nice. Nice. 325 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:21,759 So it looks good. 326 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:25,360 I'd not to jump away from Hanoi, but, 327 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,700 or or the the fish. 328 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:30,559 But, I don't think I've told this story 329 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,879 on the podcast, but Okay. Well, I'll determine 330 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:35,555 that. Since we're okay. Since You have told 331 00:11:35,555 --> 00:11:36,394 me. Assuming you 332 00:11:37,034 --> 00:11:37,855 oh, okay. 333 00:11:38,715 --> 00:11:40,554 Or that one. Oh, yeah. That one. I 334 00:11:40,554 --> 00:11:41,695 see. I'm sorry. 335 00:11:43,195 --> 00:11:45,514 When we were in France for a period 336 00:11:45,514 --> 00:11:48,235 of time, my, You and my yep. My 337 00:11:48,235 --> 00:11:49,215 daughter and I, 338 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:50,779 Cameron, 339 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:55,559 took it on ourselves to to find in 340 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,320 we were just living in a very small 341 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,860 town just outside of Paris. 342 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,879 We took it on ourselves to find the 343 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:03,514 best chocolate mousse 344 00:12:03,975 --> 00:12:06,154 we can find. Sometimes if you just define 345 00:12:06,214 --> 00:12:07,975 one thing that you want and you ask 346 00:12:07,975 --> 00:12:10,695 about where can I find the absolute best 347 00:12:10,695 --> 00:12:12,154 of this kind? Absolutely. 348 00:12:12,934 --> 00:12:15,595 Locals will will will give you their opinion, 349 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:17,850 but you can do it, you know, and 350 00:12:17,850 --> 00:12:19,529 you find something But you gotta try. I 351 00:12:19,529 --> 00:12:20,889 don't know. Is moose gonna be good in 352 00:12:20,889 --> 00:12:24,009 France? I know. I know. That's the place 353 00:12:24,009 --> 00:12:25,850 that If you could find a really good 354 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:28,169 one at around Paris, you probably were finding 355 00:12:28,169 --> 00:12:29,289 one of the better ones in the port. 356 00:12:29,289 --> 00:12:31,544 It is going explode. Yeah. Very likely. Yeah. 357 00:12:31,544 --> 00:12:33,464 And we were looking for that, actually. Yeah. 358 00:12:33,464 --> 00:12:36,184 Sure. So so we Yep. So we were 359 00:12:36,345 --> 00:12:38,264 I mean, we we we went to places 360 00:12:38,264 --> 00:12:40,745 on the on the Champs Elysees and places 361 00:12:40,745 --> 00:12:42,990 like that to to try to find them 362 00:12:43,070 --> 00:12:45,149 where you might expect that kind of thing 363 00:12:45,149 --> 00:12:47,470 to happen in, in the heart of Paris. 364 00:12:47,470 --> 00:12:49,870 And we had fortunately, we had time. So 365 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:51,549 we went around and we were living the 366 00:12:51,549 --> 00:12:54,209 small town was right adjacent to Versailles, 367 00:12:55,389 --> 00:12:57,554 the town and the palace. 368 00:12:58,115 --> 00:12:58,514 And, 369 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:00,134 but in the town, 370 00:13:00,754 --> 00:13:02,355 we were we were in the center of 371 00:13:02,355 --> 00:13:03,955 the town, and we were looking for some 372 00:13:03,955 --> 00:13:06,615 places. And there was this little small 373 00:13:07,315 --> 00:13:10,355 stand really Exactly. In in almost like almost 374 00:13:10,355 --> 00:13:12,595 in an alleyway with a with a door 375 00:13:12,595 --> 00:13:15,299 and a and a and a ceiling. Mhmm. 376 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:15,759 And, 377 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:18,320 and we we looked in there, and they 378 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,039 seem to have things like this. And we 379 00:13:21,039 --> 00:13:22,639 went in and asked for it there, and 380 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:23,779 it was right adjacent 381 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:26,259 to the Versailles bus station. 382 00:13:27,044 --> 00:13:29,365 And, Well, then right there, you know it's 383 00:13:29,365 --> 00:13:31,284 gonna be great. Right? Gotta be great. This 384 00:13:31,284 --> 00:13:33,284 has gotta be good. So we were and 385 00:13:33,284 --> 00:13:33,945 it was 386 00:13:34,644 --> 00:13:36,725 so, you know, we okay. So we took 387 00:13:36,725 --> 00:13:38,245 it. We got it, and we took it. 388 00:13:38,245 --> 00:13:39,605 There was no place to sit or anything. 389 00:13:39,605 --> 00:13:40,565 We went out and sat at a, 390 00:13:41,459 --> 00:13:42,980 on a on a on a bench, I 391 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:45,939 remember. And and also but quite frankly, in 392 00:13:45,939 --> 00:13:48,100 those areas, the the the center of of 393 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:49,699 the towns like that, which was really not 394 00:13:49,699 --> 00:13:51,779 big in Versailles, but the center of the 395 00:13:51,779 --> 00:13:52,759 town like that 396 00:13:53,059 --> 00:13:55,159 is just gorgeous and decorated 397 00:13:55,939 --> 00:13:57,835 beautifully and so on. But it was this 398 00:13:57,835 --> 00:14:00,154 little really cubby hole, and we and we 399 00:14:00,154 --> 00:14:02,235 took that out and sat down. That was 400 00:14:02,235 --> 00:14:05,134 the best we found Yeah. Yeah. After extensive 401 00:14:05,754 --> 00:14:07,535 research on our part. Nice. 402 00:14:07,995 --> 00:14:09,915 And it was and we went back. And 403 00:14:09,915 --> 00:14:11,595 sometimes if you put in if you put 404 00:14:11,595 --> 00:14:13,730 in all that effort, even if it isn't 405 00:14:13,730 --> 00:14:15,649 the best, you're gonna remember it as the 406 00:14:15,649 --> 00:14:17,250 best. Well, that's it. And especially you might 407 00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:18,610 be coming in thinking, well, we're not a 408 00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:20,690 whole situation. Right. And then, oh, it's actually 409 00:14:20,690 --> 00:14:22,610 real good. Yeah. I mean, I so as 410 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:23,990 I've mentioned before this podcast, 411 00:14:24,370 --> 00:14:25,889 I lived in Jordan, the country of Jordan, 412 00:14:25,889 --> 00:14:27,409 for a number of years, and the best 413 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:28,230 chicken shawarma 414 00:14:28,754 --> 00:14:30,674 sandwich I ever had there was at a 415 00:14:30,674 --> 00:14:32,434 bus station. The bus station about 20 minutes 416 00:14:32,434 --> 00:14:33,634 away from me. It was like It was 417 00:14:33,634 --> 00:14:35,394 incredible. I had it all the time. It 418 00:14:35,394 --> 00:14:37,154 was like the artichoke that we had in 419 00:14:37,154 --> 00:14:38,774 Rome the first day we landed 420 00:14:39,315 --> 00:14:41,634 because we didn't have a frame of reference 421 00:14:41,634 --> 00:14:42,774 for anything finer, 422 00:14:43,190 --> 00:14:44,809 and it was just so wonderful 423 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:48,169 that we remember it still that way. Yeah. 424 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:50,470 Of course. You've had you've had you've had 425 00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:52,709 great meals since, but Oh, yes. But that 426 00:14:52,709 --> 00:14:54,629 one will always stay Oh, yeah. I do 427 00:14:54,709 --> 00:14:56,565 it was was that in in our case, 428 00:14:56,565 --> 00:14:58,965 was the chocolate mousse the best ever? Honestly, 429 00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:00,424 I've never had the same reaction 430 00:15:00,965 --> 00:15:04,245 to anything else in very expensive chocolate mousse 431 00:15:04,245 --> 00:15:06,565 to to also other places. Quite live up 432 00:15:06,565 --> 00:15:08,164 to it. And it doesn't and it doesn't 433 00:15:08,164 --> 00:15:10,269 really matter because it It doesn't. It was 434 00:15:10,269 --> 00:15:12,670 the whole experience Exactly. That you that made 435 00:15:12,670 --> 00:15:14,350 it as great as it was. I will 436 00:15:14,350 --> 00:15:16,029 say, though, that we did we I mean, 437 00:15:16,029 --> 00:15:18,529 living right in the area there, we were, 438 00:15:19,550 --> 00:15:21,389 we had the option to to do this. 439 00:15:21,389 --> 00:15:22,590 So at one point, we were sort of 440 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:24,545 like, maybe we should go back and do 441 00:15:24,545 --> 00:15:27,024 it again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It somebody has 442 00:15:27,024 --> 00:15:28,545 to. We have to make sure. Yeah. Yeah. 443 00:15:28,545 --> 00:15:30,345 Yeah. Let's verify. We wanted to make sure 444 00:15:30,345 --> 00:15:31,745 we But it was that good. Oh, it 445 00:15:31,745 --> 00:15:33,504 was. And it was. Oh, yeah. What you 446 00:15:33,504 --> 00:15:35,665 gotta do is not a valid scientific test. 447 00:15:35,665 --> 00:15:36,165 Exactly. 448 00:15:36,785 --> 00:15:37,764 That's it. And, 449 00:15:38,572 --> 00:15:40,440 yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we were and we 450 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,080 verified it. Science. Good. Good. I appreciate your 451 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,840 devotion to the scientific method. I think you 452 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,399 were very well 453 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,000 Something. Someone had to, and we felt it 454 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,024 was our obligation. Yes. I remember going to 455 00:15:56,024 --> 00:15:57,225 a conference in, 456 00:15:57,705 --> 00:15:59,404 in Frankfurt, which is 457 00:15:59,865 --> 00:16:02,024 an interesting city to visit, and but it's 458 00:16:02,024 --> 00:16:04,665 a very business oriented city. Okay. It's not 459 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:08,045 as touristic necessarily as many other cities 460 00:16:09,529 --> 00:16:11,929 are, but it was a conference. Okay? So 461 00:16:11,929 --> 00:16:14,110 we were there. I'm there for a conference, 462 00:16:14,409 --> 00:16:16,110 and I'm out to eat one night 463 00:16:16,490 --> 00:16:17,230 in this 464 00:16:17,850 --> 00:16:18,350 recommended 465 00:16:19,529 --> 00:16:21,309 local German restaurant, 466 00:16:22,409 --> 00:16:23,230 with typical 467 00:16:24,554 --> 00:16:27,054 food from Frankfurt and the region. 468 00:16:27,834 --> 00:16:28,334 And, 469 00:16:29,355 --> 00:16:29,855 I'm 470 00:16:30,394 --> 00:16:32,735 I'm sitting there, and this fellow comes in. 471 00:16:33,194 --> 00:16:35,855 And he sits down, and he orders 472 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:37,759 a bowl of schlag, 473 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:40,080 which is whipped cream. 474 00:16:40,459 --> 00:16:40,959 Oh. 475 00:16:41,339 --> 00:16:42,639 A bowl of whipped cream. 476 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:45,419 Okay. Sounds good to me. And he 477 00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:49,419 and that was what he had. That's it. 478 00:16:49,419 --> 00:16:51,500 That's what he came in for. Now maybe 479 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,924 this individual and I do think it was 480 00:16:53,924 --> 00:16:57,125 probably unique to him. Mhmm. I I never 481 00:16:57,125 --> 00:16:59,924 saw anybody else do this, so I'm not 482 00:16:59,924 --> 00:17:01,384 saying this was a local, 483 00:17:02,245 --> 00:17:02,745 dish 484 00:17:03,524 --> 00:17:05,765 in any Or a custom that in the 485 00:17:05,765 --> 00:17:06,664 area. Yeah. 486 00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:09,700 But I was intrigued by the fact that 487 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:11,539 he came in and ordered a dish of 488 00:17:11,859 --> 00:17:13,400 a bowl of whipped cream. 489 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:14,599 Mhmm. And, 490 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:18,839 as you travel as I traveled from 491 00:17:19,315 --> 00:17:20,134 southern Germany 492 00:17:20,515 --> 00:17:23,095 into Austria and then into Hungary, 493 00:17:24,035 --> 00:17:25,015 the whipped cream 494 00:17:25,555 --> 00:17:27,174 became more and more 495 00:17:27,634 --> 00:17:28,134 common 496 00:17:28,434 --> 00:17:29,255 on the menu, 497 00:17:30,515 --> 00:17:32,134 as I traveled in this direction. 498 00:17:33,309 --> 00:17:33,809 And, 499 00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:36,990 not as a separate dish, but every time 500 00:17:36,990 --> 00:17:38,130 I would have a dessert 501 00:17:38,670 --> 00:17:39,170 that 502 00:17:39,630 --> 00:17:42,350 often came with whipped cream. Okay. Right. And 503 00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:43,730 Schlag. Michlag. 504 00:17:44,349 --> 00:17:46,634 With whipped cream. Yeah. All the time. I 505 00:17:46,634 --> 00:17:49,134 was always reminded of this man who'd eliminated 506 00:17:49,994 --> 00:17:51,755 every all the He was no all the 507 00:17:51,755 --> 00:17:54,154 mitt. It was just the Schlag. Just the 508 00:17:54,154 --> 00:17:56,174 Schlag. That's all he wants. Yes. 509 00:17:57,434 --> 00:17:59,755 He so he was my standard bearer. To 510 00:17:59,755 --> 00:18:01,679 the heart of it. He was absolutely my 511 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:03,119 standard bearer. I love it. I love it. 512 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,799 Yeah. Yeah. Cut out all the all the 513 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:06,799 Yeah. No mitts needed. So maybe he's 514 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:10,399 wondering, is he just thinking this is so 515 00:18:10,399 --> 00:18:10,899 good? 516 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,960 This is what I want. This is what 517 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,559 I want. I would I would hope that's 518 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:16,154 why. I mean, it would be good. It's 519 00:18:16,154 --> 00:18:17,375 perfect sense to me. 520 00:18:17,835 --> 00:18:19,674 Yeah. Give me a bowl of schlog right 521 00:18:19,674 --> 00:18:22,575 now. No. Schlog me up. Right. Okay. 522 00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:27,115 Not in any way. Going too far. Yeah. 523 00:18:27,115 --> 00:18:30,809 It could be. Yep. Maybe not. Maybe not. 524 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:34,630 No. That sounds great. Yeah. Absolutely. I think 525 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:37,269 that's very wise. It's interesting. You you you 526 00:18:37,269 --> 00:18:40,250 do see, in in some cases I mean, 527 00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:42,390 living long enough, you start to see people 528 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:44,230 come into restaurants or whatever and order some 529 00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:45,825 stuff, and you kind of wonder why 530 00:18:46,445 --> 00:18:48,545 they would be doing whatever it is. And 531 00:18:48,765 --> 00:18:51,005 I guess I guess our the the good 532 00:18:51,005 --> 00:18:51,505 nature, 533 00:18:51,805 --> 00:18:52,705 is to say 534 00:18:53,325 --> 00:18:55,565 that must be special then if they're doing 535 00:18:55,565 --> 00:18:57,884 that as opposed to I think they may 536 00:18:57,884 --> 00:18:58,545 be insane, 537 00:18:59,725 --> 00:19:02,100 which it might be both. It may be. 538 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,360 It may have been this unique individual, but, 539 00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:05,400 you know, the the 540 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:08,100 that whole reason He also was he also 541 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,180 died 18 minutes later. It's maybe that. Well, 542 00:19:10,180 --> 00:19:11,460 that's a good way to go out. One 543 00:19:11,460 --> 00:19:13,380 doesn't know. It's a good way to go 544 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:14,394 out, honestly. 545 00:19:14,774 --> 00:19:16,454 Why why not always ask to take these 546 00:19:16,454 --> 00:19:18,375 risks risks in life and you make your 547 00:19:18,375 --> 00:19:20,554 decisions. You do it for the last year. 548 00:19:21,014 --> 00:19:23,014 Sure. Sure. And then you slog your way 549 00:19:23,014 --> 00:19:24,454 out, I guess. And then on the other 550 00:19:24,454 --> 00:19:26,634 end of the spectrum, not the small little, 551 00:19:28,054 --> 00:19:30,779 unassuming places, but every now and then, I'll 552 00:19:30,779 --> 00:19:32,460 have a great meal in a really nice 553 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:34,720 restaurant. I'm remembering one in Bordeaux 554 00:19:35,179 --> 00:19:36,140 Okay. Where it 555 00:19:37,980 --> 00:19:39,359 the town of Sauternes 556 00:19:39,980 --> 00:19:42,319 Uh-huh. Where they make that very fine 557 00:19:42,734 --> 00:19:43,634 dessert wine 558 00:19:44,174 --> 00:19:45,795 is in the Bordeaux region. 559 00:19:46,734 --> 00:19:48,974 And the town itself, like I learned when 560 00:19:48,974 --> 00:19:51,454 I was there, is a tiny little small 561 00:19:51,454 --> 00:19:52,914 town, an intersection 562 00:19:53,375 --> 00:19:54,994 or or two of streets, 563 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:58,059 but it's world famous because all around it 564 00:19:58,059 --> 00:20:00,340 are acres and acres of these vineyards Mhmm. 565 00:20:00,539 --> 00:20:03,420 That produce this incredible wine. Yeah. But the 566 00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:04,559 town itself is 567 00:20:05,099 --> 00:20:07,500 is nothing much to speak of unless you 568 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:09,180 live there, of course, and then it's your 569 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:09,680 town. 570 00:20:11,035 --> 00:20:14,095 So Sauteurne, world famous sweet wine, 571 00:20:14,555 --> 00:20:16,715 but a very small little town. We were 572 00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:19,455 there on a Sunday. There was only 1 573 00:20:20,955 --> 00:20:23,775 one or 2 restaurants that were actually open, 574 00:20:24,529 --> 00:20:25,589 and one of them 575 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:29,089 was filled with with townsfolk and family coming 576 00:20:29,089 --> 00:20:31,349 for Sunday lunch, Sunday's 577 00:20:31,970 --> 00:20:33,109 meal Mhmm. 578 00:20:34,049 --> 00:20:34,549 Beginning, 579 00:20:35,089 --> 00:20:37,490 early in the afternoon and extending as as 580 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:38,894 long as it needed to be. 581 00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,855 And it was filled with joie de vivre, 582 00:20:41,855 --> 00:20:42,894 and and it was 583 00:20:43,455 --> 00:20:45,855 and the food was delicious, and the food 584 00:20:45,855 --> 00:20:46,914 was incredible. 585 00:20:50,095 --> 00:20:52,599 And everything was made, not everything on the 586 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:54,679 menu, but many things on the menu were 587 00:20:54,679 --> 00:20:57,159 made with the local wine, with sauter. Mhmm. 588 00:20:57,159 --> 00:20:58,059 Sure. Yep. 589 00:20:58,599 --> 00:20:59,900 And I remember having 590 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:02,700 a soup that I will always remember 591 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,380 till 592 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:06,059 till the end of my days, 593 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:09,005 which was an oyster 594 00:21:09,865 --> 00:21:10,765 and sauterne 595 00:21:11,384 --> 00:21:11,884 soup. 596 00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:15,005 Oysters Oysters and sauterne. 597 00:21:15,705 --> 00:21:18,285 Made with heavy cream. Oh my goodness. 598 00:21:18,904 --> 00:21:20,579 Oh my goodness. I'm in. 599 00:21:22,339 --> 00:21:24,259 Wow. One can only have this one. See, 600 00:21:24,259 --> 00:21:26,679 I didn't see the heavy cream coming. Yeah. 601 00:21:27,059 --> 00:21:28,359 I'm so glad I did. 602 00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:32,419 Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. It sounds great. Yep. 603 00:21:32,419 --> 00:21:33,799 It was it was phenomenal. 604 00:21:34,164 --> 00:21:36,164 Yeah. And I would go if I were 605 00:21:36,164 --> 00:21:37,845 ever back there, I would go in and 606 00:21:37,845 --> 00:21:41,684 order that soup. Sure. I don't probably, maybe 607 00:21:41,684 --> 00:21:42,964 nothing else. Do you remember the name of 608 00:21:42,964 --> 00:21:45,365 the Highly unlikely that I would wouldn't order 609 00:21:45,365 --> 00:21:46,349 something else. But, 610 00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:50,109 no. But it's the only you go into 611 00:21:50,109 --> 00:21:52,470 town, and there it is. That's it. So 612 00:21:52,589 --> 00:21:54,429 okay. You go there. You'll you'll you'll figure 613 00:21:54,429 --> 00:21:55,809 it out. Yeah. Nice. 614 00:21:56,109 --> 00:21:58,109 Very nice. Okay. So if anybody's going there, 615 00:21:58,109 --> 00:21:58,605 yeah, you'll 616 00:21:59,164 --> 00:22:00,605 find it. Yeah. Now that wasn't a hole 617 00:22:00,605 --> 00:22:02,285 in the wall, but we're in France now. 618 00:22:02,285 --> 00:22:03,345 So it's Right. 619 00:22:03,884 --> 00:22:06,785 This was this was a nice respectable place. 620 00:22:07,244 --> 00:22:08,764 But Oh, that's right. That was But not 621 00:22:08,924 --> 00:22:10,044 fancier. But not, 622 00:22:11,164 --> 00:22:12,384 not a haute cuisine. 623 00:22:12,924 --> 00:22:15,390 This was food for everybody. Okay. Mhmm. Okay. 624 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:17,169 Mhmm. But it happened to be 625 00:22:18,349 --> 00:22:18,849 oysters 626 00:22:19,230 --> 00:22:19,970 and sauterne 627 00:22:20,349 --> 00:22:21,169 and Nice. 628 00:22:21,710 --> 00:22:23,169 Soup. Yeah. Nice. 629 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:26,964 I'm in. Yeah. I'll take a bowl right 630 00:22:26,964 --> 00:22:29,144 now, please. So next time you find yourself 631 00:22:30,085 --> 00:22:32,664 in Bordeaux, there you go. Yeah. Sure. 632 00:22:33,044 --> 00:22:33,784 We also, 633 00:22:34,164 --> 00:22:35,784 this was in the Loire Valley, 634 00:22:36,484 --> 00:22:37,784 in France, and, 635 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,519 there was a there was a place I 636 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:41,019 remember. 637 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,000 I do not remember the name of it, 638 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,400 but it had it had very nice it 639 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:45,900 was 640 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,420 desserts. 641 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Mhmm. 642 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:51,320 Patisserie Oh, we're going back to desserts again. 643 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,325 Yeah. Yeah. It's hard not to always wind 644 00:22:53,325 --> 00:22:55,164 up there. Yeah. But we always were I 645 00:22:55,164 --> 00:22:58,125 was always looking for bonjourie and patisserie. Yes. 646 00:22:58,125 --> 00:23:00,544 The bakery and the and the desserts. And, 647 00:23:01,404 --> 00:23:03,724 and this small little place had they had 648 00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:05,804 a little castle, I remember. Mhmm. And the 649 00:23:05,804 --> 00:23:06,865 tour of the castle, 650 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:08,779 the draw for the people to go to 651 00:23:08,779 --> 00:23:10,339 the castle was that they had, 652 00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:13,619 these places where people had been chained up 653 00:23:13,619 --> 00:23:15,880 down in the down in the dungeon. Oh. 654 00:23:15,940 --> 00:23:18,200 And so the tour was of their dungeon. 655 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:20,994 Oh. Yeah. And, that was their special could 656 00:23:20,994 --> 00:23:22,755 have a patisserie at the end of the 657 00:23:22,755 --> 00:23:25,015 tour. Yeah. Well, since then you feel fine. 658 00:23:25,234 --> 00:23:27,575 I decided to opt out of the dungeon 659 00:23:28,115 --> 00:23:29,955 and just go to the patisserie. Just like 660 00:23:29,955 --> 00:23:31,863 the man with the schlog. Just go right 661 00:23:31,863 --> 00:23:33,009 to right to what you want. To the 662 00:23:33,009 --> 00:23:35,250 patisserie. Yes. No time wasted. And it was 663 00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:37,410 wonderful. Yeah. I wish you don't waste time 664 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:40,150 for sure. Yeah. I think, again, wise. 665 00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:42,930 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Dean, are there are 666 00:23:42,930 --> 00:23:45,015 there other hole in the wall places around 667 00:23:45,015 --> 00:23:47,275 the world that you Oh my god. Recommend? 668 00:23:47,414 --> 00:23:50,214 But my experiences are, you know, is limited 669 00:23:50,214 --> 00:23:51,174 to me. But, 670 00:23:51,815 --> 00:23:53,654 I think the the moral of the story 671 00:23:53,654 --> 00:23:54,154 is 672 00:23:55,974 --> 00:23:56,789 open up 673 00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:59,269 and really check these 674 00:23:59,830 --> 00:24:01,850 check out where you are with the locals. 675 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:03,590 Check them out. You know? Yeah. Talk to 676 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:04,650 the locals. Right. 677 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:08,150 Find be curious. Yeah. Ask them about their 678 00:24:08,150 --> 00:24:09,130 lives and 679 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:10,650 and start a conversation. 680 00:24:11,994 --> 00:24:13,295 And and people will, 681 00:24:13,755 --> 00:24:15,855 more often than not, I have found, 682 00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:17,914 be very willing to share the best that 683 00:24:17,914 --> 00:24:19,434 they have with you. Is there a time 684 00:24:19,434 --> 00:24:20,954 that sticks out to you in particular where 685 00:24:20,954 --> 00:24:23,194 you were asking or talking to talking to 686 00:24:23,194 --> 00:24:25,194 the locals and they recommended someplace, and it 687 00:24:25,194 --> 00:24:26,220 was like, oh, I'm so 688 00:24:26,779 --> 00:24:27,679 thank goodness. 689 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,799 Yeah. Act actually, it it was in in 690 00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:33,339 in Sri Lanka. Okay. Then I was traveling 691 00:24:33,339 --> 00:24:35,279 through southern India and Sri Lanka, 692 00:24:35,659 --> 00:24:36,159 and 693 00:24:37,099 --> 00:24:38,859 I was fortunate that I had a colleague 694 00:24:38,859 --> 00:24:39,519 in Colombo 695 00:24:40,845 --> 00:24:41,085 who 696 00:24:42,845 --> 00:24:45,085 she's Sri Lankan, and so she was able 697 00:24:45,085 --> 00:24:45,744 to recommend 698 00:24:46,365 --> 00:24:48,525 different places to me. And, you know, I 699 00:24:48,525 --> 00:24:49,025 said, 700 00:24:49,404 --> 00:24:51,424 Sarah, I you know me. 701 00:24:51,884 --> 00:24:52,865 I don't need 702 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:56,630 a high level tourist restaurant. Right. Right. I'm 703 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:58,649 much more interested in having 704 00:24:59,029 --> 00:25:01,289 really fine local food Mhmm. 705 00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:04,569 By someone who can really 706 00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:06,809 give me something that reflects 707 00:25:07,355 --> 00:25:09,914 the best of of the region. Yeah. And 708 00:25:09,914 --> 00:25:11,615 so she was able to, 709 00:25:12,234 --> 00:25:13,455 turn me on to 710 00:25:14,154 --> 00:25:17,055 a particular place outside of Colombo, actually, 711 00:25:17,515 --> 00:25:18,015 that 712 00:25:19,289 --> 00:25:21,850 was remarkable, and it was it was a 713 00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:23,549 vegetarian restaurant. Mhmm. 714 00:25:23,850 --> 00:25:26,590 And it was, what they called banana leaf. 715 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:27,630 Mhmm. Yeah. 716 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:29,930 So the food comes out. There are no 717 00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:30,430 plates. 718 00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:33,375 It comes out on a big banana leaf. 719 00:25:33,375 --> 00:25:34,974 They put a banana leaf down where a 720 00:25:34,974 --> 00:25:35,795 plate would be, 721 00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:36,734 and, 722 00:25:37,134 --> 00:25:38,674 you're going to be eating it. 723 00:25:39,295 --> 00:25:39,795 And, 724 00:25:40,815 --> 00:25:42,654 you know, protocol says you eat with the 725 00:25:42,654 --> 00:25:44,734 right hand, not the left hand. Uh-huh. Mhmm. 726 00:25:44,894 --> 00:25:45,954 So you eat it 727 00:25:46,494 --> 00:25:47,934 eat it with your right hand, and you're 728 00:25:47,934 --> 00:25:50,509 just going to mix the rice and whatever 729 00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:52,289 dishes they bring out to you 730 00:25:52,670 --> 00:25:55,549 together on the banana leaf. Mhmm. And you 731 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:56,690 mix it up, and you 732 00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:58,750 put it in your mouth Mhmm. With your 733 00:25:58,750 --> 00:26:00,830 with your fingers. Nice. And you just pop 734 00:26:00,830 --> 00:26:01,809 it in. Yeah. 735 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:03,944 And it was, I don't know what it 736 00:26:03,944 --> 00:26:06,924 was. It was just really, really different from 737 00:26:07,304 --> 00:26:09,144 most of the food that I was having 738 00:26:09,304 --> 00:26:10,825 Yeah. On the trip. And most of the 739 00:26:10,825 --> 00:26:13,164 food that I was having in South India 740 00:26:13,304 --> 00:26:15,785 and in the rest of Sri Lanka was 741 00:26:15,785 --> 00:26:16,845 wonderful. Mhmm. 742 00:26:17,384 --> 00:26:18,444 I was not mistreated. 743 00:26:18,829 --> 00:26:21,329 Yeah. But this particular restaurant, 744 00:26:22,029 --> 00:26:24,430 a local little restaurant on the edge of 745 00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:25,490 the the forest, 746 00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:26,529 was 747 00:26:28,109 --> 00:26:30,509 spectacular. Something special. Yeah. It really was. And 748 00:26:30,509 --> 00:26:31,809 it was vegetarian, 749 00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:34,444 and I they really knew how to use 750 00:26:34,444 --> 00:26:35,984 their spices and and, 751 00:26:37,085 --> 00:26:39,904 and local ingredients, and it was spectacular. Nice. 752 00:26:40,125 --> 00:26:40,944 Very nice. 753 00:26:46,684 --> 00:26:47,884 I wanna see if I can look it 754 00:26:47,884 --> 00:26:49,089 up. I I don't know if I'm gonna 755 00:26:49,089 --> 00:26:50,769 have any success, though. It's hard with hole 756 00:26:50,769 --> 00:26:52,289 in the wall places. Right? Because that's the 757 00:26:52,289 --> 00:26:53,890 whole idea. It's not a whole And they 758 00:26:53,890 --> 00:26:55,730 may not be there tomorrow even though Right. 759 00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:57,250 Right. It could be more, you know, transient. 760 00:26:57,250 --> 00:26:58,690 Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, even 761 00:26:58,690 --> 00:27:00,964 even the finest restaurants come and go. You 762 00:27:00,964 --> 00:27:03,205 know? Oh, absolutely. But it it's it's a 763 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,924 very difficult business. Yeah. But at the same 764 00:27:05,924 --> 00:27:08,164 time, these places now might be on the 765 00:27:08,164 --> 00:27:10,805 Internet. Yeah. You know? It's it's it's a 766 00:27:10,805 --> 00:27:12,644 it's a little bit different world. And they 767 00:27:12,644 --> 00:27:14,424 and they often cater to a very 768 00:27:15,605 --> 00:27:16,105 unique 769 00:27:16,529 --> 00:27:19,029 clientele Uh-huh. Who, once they know them, 770 00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:22,609 come there's lots of repeat. So they often 771 00:27:22,609 --> 00:27:24,450 do stay around for quite a long time. 772 00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:26,450 Mhmm. You know, they're the they're the little 773 00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:28,869 place that everybody knows at the train station. 774 00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:31,410 Sure. And that's where you go because 775 00:27:32,025 --> 00:27:33,785 and and you're taking the train every day 776 00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:35,224 because that's where you live, and that's what 777 00:27:35,224 --> 00:27:37,065 you need to do. Mhmm. And so there's 778 00:27:37,065 --> 00:27:39,244 this repeat clientele all the time. 779 00:27:39,545 --> 00:27:42,904 I'm thinking also, Tom, of of the there's 780 00:27:42,904 --> 00:27:44,525 a there's a little stand 781 00:27:45,150 --> 00:27:47,250 in the ferry building, 782 00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:49,090 that, 783 00:27:50,029 --> 00:27:52,109 in Saint Thomas that takes you to the 784 00:27:52,109 --> 00:27:54,690 Saint John takes you to Saint John. Mhmm. 785 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:57,070 And there's a guy there who's got a 786 00:27:57,070 --> 00:27:58,605 stand, and he makes the best 787 00:27:59,164 --> 00:28:00,144 fried bread. 788 00:28:01,085 --> 00:28:03,964 Fried bread? Yeah. I've ever had. Fried bread 789 00:28:03,964 --> 00:28:05,804 is a staple in lots of different places, 790 00:28:05,804 --> 00:28:07,484 and it's made lots of different ways. Yeah. 791 00:28:07,484 --> 00:28:09,085 For those who don't know about fried bread, 792 00:28:09,085 --> 00:28:09,904 can you describe 793 00:28:10,285 --> 00:28:11,964 what that because I'm imagining, like, you know, 794 00:28:11,964 --> 00:28:13,025 a loaf of bread. 795 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:14,859 You'd buy the, you know, buy the grocery 796 00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:15,980 store in the States, but I'm guessing it's 797 00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:19,259 quite different. Like a patty. Uh-huh. Yeah. And 798 00:28:19,259 --> 00:28:19,660 it's, 799 00:28:20,779 --> 00:28:22,460 and it puffs up a little bit. Mhmm. 800 00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:25,579 It's like a paratha in in India. Mhmm. 801 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:27,015 Puffs up a little bit, 802 00:28:27,494 --> 00:28:27,994 and 803 00:28:29,015 --> 00:28:32,055 and it's deep fried. Mhmm. So it's more 804 00:28:32,055 --> 00:28:34,954 like something like a cross between a doughnut 805 00:28:35,015 --> 00:28:36,474 and and a bread. 806 00:28:36,934 --> 00:28:37,734 Yeah. I was gonna say, 807 00:28:38,535 --> 00:28:39,035 at 808 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,960 at at fairs. Well, it was called What 809 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,079 can I think of it? In the Caribbean, 810 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:43,299 they call it Johnny cakes. 811 00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:45,920 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's yeah. And 812 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,679 he makes the best Johnny cakes I've ever 813 00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:49,039 had. Funnel funnel cake. That's what I was 814 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:49,859 saying. Funnel cake 815 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,605 is funnel cake is different. Okay. But it 816 00:28:52,605 --> 00:28:54,525 but it is a fried dough. Okay. Every 817 00:28:54,525 --> 00:28:56,065 culture's got its fried dough, 818 00:28:56,525 --> 00:28:59,005 and funnel cakes is 1. A Johnny cake 819 00:28:59,005 --> 00:29:00,144 is a fried dough, 820 00:29:00,765 --> 00:29:02,865 dish from the Caribbean. I'm looking for a 821 00:29:03,569 --> 00:29:05,672 different looking. Yep. Yes. Different looking. But this 822 00:29:05,672 --> 00:29:07,774 is this is the best. Yeah. And it's 823 00:29:07,774 --> 00:29:09,876 so delicious. And he's got his his clientele 824 00:29:09,876 --> 00:29:11,978 every day. They're taking the ferry back and 825 00:29:11,978 --> 00:29:14,080 forth. Mhmm. And so he can depend on 826 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,182 them. And he'll be there for as long 827 00:29:16,182 --> 00:29:18,285 as he keeps making the best Johnny cakes 828 00:29:18,525 --> 00:29:19,825 around. Nice. Yeah. 829 00:29:20,605 --> 00:29:22,845 I in Shanghai also, there's, 830 00:29:24,285 --> 00:29:25,744 an area of Shanghai 831 00:29:26,365 --> 00:29:26,865 that's 832 00:29:28,525 --> 00:29:29,825 they call it Chinatown 833 00:29:30,605 --> 00:29:31,105 because 834 00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:32,210 Shanghai 835 00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:35,429 started as actually a western city Mhmm. 836 00:29:36,269 --> 00:29:39,069 Which happened to be in China Mhmm. Because 837 00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:39,809 it started 838 00:29:40,109 --> 00:29:41,009 with European 839 00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:44,369 exploiters coming and claiming the land and 840 00:29:44,755 --> 00:29:48,034 and claiming sections of what became Shanghai Yeah. 841 00:29:48,115 --> 00:29:51,335 As their own colonial outposts for trading. Yeah. 842 00:29:51,554 --> 00:29:54,134 So there's an area of Shanghai that's Frenchtown, 843 00:29:54,355 --> 00:29:56,595 an area that's Shanghai that was once known 844 00:29:56,595 --> 00:29:57,494 as Englishtown, 845 00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:00,960 And there's an area that was, in fact, 846 00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:03,119 local Chinese, 847 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,720 and it's called Chinatown. 848 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:07,620 But Yeah. It's interesting. 849 00:30:08,059 --> 00:30:09,680 Right in China, in Shanghai. 850 00:30:10,059 --> 00:30:10,559 Right? 851 00:30:11,099 --> 00:30:13,119 But it's, the old Shanghai, 852 00:30:14,014 --> 00:30:15,554 and it's been restored. 853 00:30:16,255 --> 00:30:18,894 And it's very touristic in many ways, but 854 00:30:18,894 --> 00:30:20,674 it also is still very authentic. 855 00:30:22,174 --> 00:30:22,674 And 856 00:30:23,054 --> 00:30:24,434 there's a lot of, 857 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:26,674 stands and restaurants 858 00:30:27,134 --> 00:30:28,034 in this area, 859 00:30:29,059 --> 00:30:31,960 and there's one in particular. They all sell 860 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:36,179 Shanghannese dumplings, which is a local tradition. Oh, 861 00:30:36,179 --> 00:30:38,740 I love dumplings. And it's dumplings that are 862 00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:40,679 served in, a broth. 863 00:30:41,505 --> 00:30:42,005 And 864 00:30:42,945 --> 00:30:44,484 you you stick your straw 865 00:30:44,945 --> 00:30:46,305 into the cup Mhmm. 866 00:30:46,785 --> 00:30:48,325 And through the cup holder 867 00:30:48,785 --> 00:30:51,585 into the dumpling. Mhmm. And you break the 868 00:30:51,585 --> 00:30:53,910 dumpling, and you suck the broth up through 869 00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:54,809 the straw, 870 00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:56,570 and then you eat the dumpling. 871 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:57,450 Okay. 872 00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:00,470 And, of course, everybody claims to make the 873 00:31:00,470 --> 00:31:03,509 best Chinese dumplings Mhmm. In Shanghai Sure. In 874 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:05,369 Chinatown, in the Square. Mhmm. 875 00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:08,445 Except there is one place Oh. That really 876 00:31:08,445 --> 00:31:10,545 does its best. Okay. Yeah. 877 00:31:10,845 --> 00:31:11,345 And, 878 00:31:11,805 --> 00:31:13,744 it was my experience that 879 00:31:14,125 --> 00:31:16,605 the way you identify this place is because 880 00:31:16,605 --> 00:31:18,545 they're the ones that have the longest line. 881 00:31:18,765 --> 00:31:21,164 Ah, okay. Oh, sure. Yeah. Makes sense. Sure. 882 00:31:21,164 --> 00:31:23,950 Mhmm. Yep. And the line is is a 883 00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:27,250 mix of locals and also tourists. Mhmm. 884 00:31:28,109 --> 00:31:30,269 But everyone there on that line has found 885 00:31:30,269 --> 00:31:32,509 out one way or the other Mhmm. That 886 00:31:32,509 --> 00:31:34,214 this is where you get the best. Yeah. 887 00:31:34,375 --> 00:31:37,335 Yes. Yeah. That's I remember picking a restaurant 888 00:31:37,335 --> 00:31:38,394 in in Monaco, 889 00:31:39,654 --> 00:31:41,654 and I had no idea. No idea. And 890 00:31:41,654 --> 00:31:43,494 and and Monaco is not like a backwater 891 00:31:43,494 --> 00:31:44,394 town or anything, 892 00:31:44,775 --> 00:31:45,335 but it's, 893 00:31:45,815 --> 00:31:47,974 Probably the opposite of the present in the 894 00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:50,619 backwater. This was down by by a freeway, 895 00:31:50,619 --> 00:31:52,460 and, actually, they were getting ready for the 896 00:31:52,460 --> 00:31:55,039 for the 24 hour race, yeah, 897 00:31:55,579 --> 00:31:56,059 that, 898 00:31:56,539 --> 00:31:58,539 that they have there. And so there was 899 00:31:58,539 --> 00:32:00,539 all these barriers up and everything. It's a 900 00:32:00,539 --> 00:32:02,700 complicated place. It is. It's a tiny little 901 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,585 place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Getting around is 902 00:32:05,585 --> 00:32:07,504 tough. And I and and there was we 903 00:32:07,504 --> 00:32:09,264 walked by a bunch of restaurants, and there 904 00:32:09,264 --> 00:32:10,784 was this one restaurant that there was a 905 00:32:10,784 --> 00:32:11,284 line. 906 00:32:11,904 --> 00:32:12,384 And, 907 00:32:13,105 --> 00:32:15,184 that finally decided, you know what? We're going 908 00:32:15,184 --> 00:32:16,964 to the place that's got the line because 909 00:32:17,259 --> 00:32:19,900 somebody knows something here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And 910 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:21,279 it was spectacular. 911 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,279 It was just great. Also But clearly designed 912 00:32:25,339 --> 00:32:27,819 to not need a reservation. It was just 913 00:32:27,819 --> 00:32:29,660 open, and you just go on the line. 914 00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:31,105 Yeah. I mean, it took us a little 915 00:32:31,105 --> 00:32:32,005 while to get in, 916 00:32:32,464 --> 00:32:34,384 because of that. And usually, those kind of 917 00:32:34,384 --> 00:32:37,365 places have one specialty, like the Shanghainese noodles, 918 00:32:37,825 --> 00:32:40,565 Shanghainese dumplings. In this case, I remember that's, 919 00:32:40,865 --> 00:32:41,605 I got, 920 00:32:42,144 --> 00:32:44,099 I I'm gonna say rabbit. It was a 921 00:32:44,099 --> 00:32:46,019 walk away? It was no. No. This was 922 00:32:46,019 --> 00:32:47,779 a restaurant restaurant. Or sit down. Yeah. Yeah. 923 00:32:47,779 --> 00:32:49,619 It wasn't big, but it was, but it 924 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:52,099 was a restaurant restaurant. And it was, and 925 00:32:52,099 --> 00:32:53,160 it was very nice, 926 00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:56,119 but it was it was 927 00:32:56,924 --> 00:32:59,424 extraordinary. That's how I remember. Remember the 928 00:32:59,725 --> 00:33:01,485 name and same for Chinese? I do not 929 00:33:01,485 --> 00:33:02,845 remember the name of the restaurant. No. No. 930 00:33:02,845 --> 00:33:04,065 No. It's it's 931 00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:06,445 the one with the big line. Okay. Yeah. 932 00:33:06,445 --> 00:33:08,525 There you go. Look that up. In Shanghai 933 00:33:08,525 --> 00:33:10,210 and I do I do one more thing 934 00:33:10,210 --> 00:33:11,029 too. I remember 935 00:33:11,409 --> 00:33:13,829 my daughter got married in the Bahamas, and 936 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:15,809 we were all there. Yeah. That was that 937 00:33:15,809 --> 00:33:18,470 was really fun. Yeah. And at that night, 938 00:33:18,929 --> 00:33:20,529 everybody went out on the town. Not everybody, 939 00:33:20,529 --> 00:33:22,595 but a lot of the mostly younger people 940 00:33:22,595 --> 00:33:24,595 went out onto the town. Not at a 941 00:33:24,595 --> 00:33:26,434 wedding. At a wedding. Really? Yeah. I think 942 00:33:26,434 --> 00:33:28,034 it was a pretty good mix of ages 943 00:33:28,034 --> 00:33:30,274 for whatever reason. It was pretty good. And 944 00:33:30,274 --> 00:33:32,034 I had decided I was gonna stay back, 945 00:33:32,034 --> 00:33:33,894 and I and and and then 946 00:33:34,194 --> 00:33:36,674 decided I I couldn't. I I I had 947 00:33:36,674 --> 00:33:38,460 to go. He gave So life is short. 948 00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:40,380 Yeah. That's right. So it it so I 949 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:42,859 headed out and, not knowing at all where 950 00:33:42,859 --> 00:33:44,940 I was going or anything. Oh, no. Wanna 951 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,039 buy. And I I'm feeling a little peckish, 952 00:33:47,339 --> 00:33:48,940 you know? And it's now we're in later 953 00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:50,380 in the evening, but I'm feeling a little 954 00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:53,054 peckish. So I go by a little a 955 00:33:53,054 --> 00:33:55,375 little cart stand kind of thing that is 956 00:33:55,375 --> 00:33:56,355 serving kunk. 957 00:33:56,894 --> 00:33:59,615 Oh, yes. Now okay. So I'm doing it's 958 00:33:59,615 --> 00:34:02,274 it's later at night. It's a little stand 959 00:34:03,054 --> 00:34:03,954 in the Bahamas, 960 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:05,690 Shellfish. 961 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:06,730 Yeah. 962 00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:08,969 Do you really do this? 963 00:34:09,429 --> 00:34:11,050 But I really like cotton. 964 00:34:11,429 --> 00:34:13,210 And C O N C H. Yes. 965 00:34:14,150 --> 00:34:14,469 And, 966 00:34:15,269 --> 00:34:16,170 so I 967 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:17,909 got it and, 968 00:34:18,630 --> 00:34:21,555 it was cooked. Oh, yes. Yeah. Oh, yes. 969 00:34:21,775 --> 00:34:22,515 It was 970 00:34:23,535 --> 00:34:25,954 the best conch I've ever had. Mhmm. Yep. 971 00:34:26,414 --> 00:34:27,695 You took the risk and you did it 972 00:34:27,695 --> 00:34:29,215 and it turned out It turned out great. 973 00:34:29,215 --> 00:34:30,735 Yeah. Right? Yeah. I could have been, you 974 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:31,235 know, 975 00:34:31,869 --> 00:34:33,710 worshiping to the porcelain god, 976 00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:35,789 for a while if it it hadn't. But 977 00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:38,109 And you might. But But I'd I'd it 978 00:34:38,109 --> 00:34:39,789 really I figured, you know what? If that 979 00:34:39,789 --> 00:34:41,630 happens, that happens. I'm I'm gonna get some 980 00:34:41,630 --> 00:34:42,829 because it might be really good, and it 981 00:34:42,829 --> 00:34:44,589 turned out to be better than really good. 982 00:34:44,589 --> 00:34:45,949 Well, so what he was saying, yeah, don't 983 00:34:45,949 --> 00:34:47,744 don't be afraid. Yeah. Don't be afraid to 984 00:34:47,744 --> 00:34:49,605 dive in. Give it a try. Be curious. 985 00:34:49,905 --> 00:34:50,804 And be informed. 986 00:34:51,105 --> 00:34:53,264 Make make it make an informed decision to 987 00:34:53,264 --> 00:34:55,045 the degree that you can get the information. 988 00:34:55,264 --> 00:34:56,944 You wanna minimize the risk, but you don't 989 00:34:56,944 --> 00:34:59,025 wanna try to obliterate. Don't be reckless because 990 00:34:59,025 --> 00:35:01,679 then you'll never never experience the highs either. 991 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,739 Right. Right. Exactly. 992 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,239 High, man. Woah. I'm getting hungry just thinking 993 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,579 about it. I'm so talking about peckish. 994 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:10,559 Yeah. Now we all gotta go eat. I've 995 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:12,719 gone beyond. I'm I'm uber peckish at this 996 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,880 point. 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