- We are rolling.
We're rolling. I'm, I'm rolling.
We're about here for three episodes. We're rolling, man.
We've been drinking the entire time, .
We really haven't. I just started my second, so I'm, yeah.
Yeah. It's been a little more controlled than that.
- And, and we are in the middle of a major marathon
of cultural cornucopia quizzes.
- That's exactly right. Kind of sorta of culture of culture.
There might be culture involved in parentheses.
- Maybe - We, being Dean has not been drinking at all.
We being het a little ke No,
he's been drinking the entire time also.
I'm just, that's a little crick there.
Oh, what's the C creek?
I'm just waiting for him to c crank me back.
I apologize immediately for that sort
of terrible Irish accent. Terrible Irish
- Accent.
Yeah. Really. I'm not even gonna comment on that
- One.
It's the beer .
- But we But is yours truly? Dean Foster's here
- And, and Tom Peterson. Tom
- Peterson.
- Dorad - Peterson. And we are in the middle of a marathon
of culture quizzes. Yes.
- And culture quizzes. - Cornucopia of them.
- Yes. Yes. Of continental culture quizzes.
That's right. Continental.
- So we've been talking about, because I
- Easy for you to say, see, he's had plenty of guilty.
Yeah. Have another glass over there.
that'll help , that'll get you over
that threshold to the point where
everything is Oh yeah. That
- Blow.
That is definitely being cut. No,
- It's, oh no.
I told you in our first part of this, in fact, we're gonna,
the editing machine has broken.
We're gonna turn that into like a thing.
We play over and over what they call a sounder.
We'll just play it over and over. That's happening now.
Absolutely. Yep. .
- Yeah. And we're doing all these quizzes. Yes. Because,
- Oops.
Your culture's showing. Showing.
All right. So we have covered before this. Oh yeah.
What'd we do? What? Continental regions? Yeah.
Flashback here. Let's go back two episodes. Oh, thank you.
There was the, uh, sounder for the, um, flashback. Yep.
Does it? And, um, so we've gone back in time, back in time,
back in time and,
and , I'm not sure what song that was, but , I
- Like that song.
Um, it was called Back in Time.
- Thank you very much. It was, thank you. Um, .
There was one. Yeah. I just sang it. Yeah.
And it was who back in, in Time. Who sang it?
Uh, Huey Lewis in the News. Very good.
And you know what movie? It was Houston, back
to Futurist Song Back to the Future.
Yeah. Saw that movie.
And, um, anyway, that was not the quiz. The quiz. .
It should be the first quiz was on What to Continent Dean.
- I think we did Australia. Yes. Right.
And then we also, and there's always been this debate about
Australia as a separate continent,
but we are not gonna get into that yet. I've heard of
- Oceania.
We're going with it. Oceania,
so Yeah. Continental ish. Okay.
- Yeah. And, uh,
and then we also did, um, Europe, I believe.
And then we also did Asia.
- Well, we did the Middle East with, with Australia.
Oh, right, okay. Yes. But we did do
Europe. You're right. Then
- We did those We, and then we did Asia.
Yes. Okay. And then those are the
- Four weeks.
So now we're, we're, we've
still got a couple to go, don't we? Yeah, we
- Do.
The world's a big place. What,
- What do we got? Right?
- What do we got left? We're gonna be looking at, um,
a cornucopia of cultural quizzes and concepts
- Oh, oh, oh.
Of culture. Oh, of culture.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Dinging,
- Uh, for the African region.
Congratulations for Africa. Okay. As well as Latin America.
- Okay. Alright. Nice - Latin.
- Now let's define, let's, let's be careful.
We understand Africa,
and we said this with all
of these major continental regions.
Mm. Yes. We can dig deeply into, very into a lot
of different cultural differences.
There's North African culture,
Southern African culture, east
- African. It's a very large
- Continent.
Also massive. Absolutely massive. Um, central African.
So, but for now, for our purposes,
we're gonna take a look at General African
cultural concepts.
Ah, okay. And how they General African and,
and how they, in other words,
they're shared throughout the region,
throughout the continent.
Uh, but I will specify the countries that we're speaking of.
- Okay, good. No. Okay. I was going
to ask about some countries that,
because is Egypt considered for our purposes?
Is at that a African or a Middle Eastern country? Yes. Yeah.
- And this is where I think we can have all
- Of the - Above a lot, and we can have lots
of discussion on the various positions around these kinds of
- Issues.
I don't think we should talk about those things
on a podcast like this.
. Not at all. It's not a fit at all.
Although if you look at some of the hieroglyphics
and stuff in Egypt, they're a little kinky. You
- Know, I thought you were gonna say they talk
about our podcast.
- No, well there's that. Yes. Well,
- There, there is that on the side.
- And some of those are kind of kinky too. So
- It should be.
There are some hieroglyphics on a men's room in Cairo
that talk about our podcast,
- .
Oh, good. Yes. I'm glad to hear
and movie. I'm glad to hear it.
- Well, because we've talked about, have we been
to these continents before?
And I have been to Egypt, but that's
- The only, well, see, that's the
- Only place in Africa I've been to
- Historically from the West west perspective.
Um, looking at Egypt, investigating Egyptian culture,
you know, the, the great classical civilizations in Egypt,
it's always been through a European gaze.
Mm-Hmm. And so Egyptian culture has always looked,
been looked at from the, from the west as kind of a, a,
a non-African culture.
Hmm. But, but right now there is this renaissance of
investigating Egyptian culture with its roots
to the African continent in which it, it exists.
Yeah. And, um, you know, cases can be made very,
very strongly that there's a much greater connection, um,
in Egyptian culture to African cultures than
to European cultures.
Mm-Hmm. Um, so, but clearly there's both, and,
and one can say, yeah, if you look at North African culture,
it's very different from Central African.
Mm-Hmm. very different from Southern African.
Mm-Hmm. , west African. East African. Yeah.
And Egypt is up in that northeast corner. Right.
Which is very different from the rest of the
- Continent.
Yeah. I would like to see much more of Africa.
- All right, well, let's let see how
- Much you'll learn more today.
- I was gonna say, let's, uh, let's find out about,
- This'll get, you know, get your
learn passport up to date and get going. Boy.
- Let's go. Alright, here we go.
- Alright, here we go. Let's do it. I'm ready. Alright.
So, okay. Score, update.
- Oh gosh. - . Just to update everyone.
It's, it's 10 points per, um, correct answer.
Uhhuh Tom has 120 points. Yes. Very nice.
- That's very nice. - Torin has 150 points.
- So with my bonus, I'm like at 190 with
- Your bonus.
Oh wait. The bonus is zero.
- Oh. But listen,
- We have, 'cause we're, are we doing, um,
we're doing Africa and Latin America, is that right? Yes.
- Are okay. Right. Yeah. And we're going
to be looking at Latin America as well.
- Okay. And so there's five each, five questions each again,
- Five questions each, each question has
four multiple choice answers.
The correct one is the winner. Okay.
- So - You have plenty of
- Opportunity to make.
There's a hundred points at stake here. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Tom, I,
- Anything can happen.
I, I think you're there. I
think you're very close. You only,
- Well, I appreciate that - You only need 17 points
and you're, and you, and you take the lead.
- Yes. Think that , Uhhuh,
- This is why I went into, that's
what I'm going cultural studies and not math, not mad.
- That's - Probably for the best. Yes.
All right. I'm ready. And
- Question number one, g grs throughout much
of the West and central African regions. Wait,
- Hold on.
Spell please Say that again and and spell it.
- G Grs. G-R-I-O-T-S. Okay. - Thank you. Nice.
- Throughout much of the West
and Central African region are,
and your choices for the correct answer,
A, B, C, or D OTs
- A are there answers on those? Oh, okay.
- Are storytellers, musicians, actors, et cetera,
who carry on the strong oral traditions of the region
through the retelling
and reenactment of stories, mythologies and beliefs.
- Okay. Uhhuh, -
- B OTs are individuals who act as intermediaries
between the living and the spirits of their ancestors.
- Huh. Okay. - Mm-Hmm.
Rios C are individuals usually representing
small, rural, tribal groups who are looked down upon
by modern urban dwellers.
Hmm. Okay. And D GRS refers
to the transition between the rainy
and the dry seasons in the region.
- All right. I have my answer. This
- Is West and Central African cultures.
- Can you read a again for me, please?
- A, a storytellers, musicians, actors, et cetera,
who carry on the strong oral traditions of the region
through the retelling
and reenactment of stories, mythologies, and beliefs.
- Okay. I have an answer.
- Alright. Yeah. Rock, salt, pepper, and paint.
- CA. Oh, wow.
I really thought you were gonna go A
'cause you asked for it.
- I did ask for it. That c Interesting.
You don't know what's going on as much as you think you
- Do.
No, I really thought I did. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Right.
So he said CI said A. All
- Right.
You said the storytellers, musicians and actors.
Yeah. Torin and
- Tom. I said C,
- C individuals usually representing small rural,
tribal groups who are looked down upon
by modern African urban dwellers.
Yes. Come on. Right. Come on.
The answer is, gentlemen. A yes.
- . - Wow. Wow.
- Ooh. It's gonna be tough to come back now,
- . Wow. It's
- Not at all implications for,
for non-African working in Africa.
Understand that the power of the story is, is,
is extraordinary in African culture,
- Uhhuh.
- Sure. So if you can, if you can make your case
with stories, if you can draw parallels
and make parallel stories, people often speak in terms,
this is a communication style issue.
Speak in metaphors with storytelling. Mm-Hmm.
It has a powerful tra tradition in Africa. Mm-Hmm.
It's going to, what's gonna make your, it's gonna be
what makes your case not necessarily your numbers
and your logic and your systems.
- Okay. - Helps to be a raconteur.
- Absolutely. Hmm. Absolutely. Very powerful.
- All right. Good. Alright. So I got points on that one.
- Sure. So Torin, you got, um, I got 10 points.
10, 10 points. And Tom,
you got 400 pity points. Okay. ,
- You - Did get those.
I could deserve those. I'm sure.
- Moving on to number two,
- I'm gonna drink more beer.
Hold on. I think that's good. I, that's why Go for it.
- Ubuntu, uh, U-B-U-N-T-U,
Ubuntu in the Republic of South Africa.
Okay. So we're now looking at Southern African culture,
specifically the nation of the Republic
of South Africa. Mm-Hmm.
- . Okay. - Ubuntu.
A refers to a list of leadership qualities expected
of all male tribal leaders,
or B, refers to a list of leadership qualities expected
of all female tribal leaders.
Okay. Or c Ubuntu refers
to the communitarian ethos that individuals are defined
by responsible to
and dependent on the larger community
of which they are a member.
Okay. Or d Ubuntu in the Republic
of South Africa refers to a celebration
of multi-ethnicity held annually in Pretoria.
- Huh. - Okay. I have an answer I do as
- Well.
- All right. - Rocky salted pepper.
- CC oh, no. Yeah, - That's correct.
- Yeah. - Refers to the communitarian ethos
that individuals are defined by responsible to
and dependent on the larger community
of which they are a member.
You are both correct? Yeah.
- Now, had you heard this before?
Or did you, was that a guess? No, I,
- I just put it together by what I knew of, uh,
what I believed I knew
of African cultures South African culture. Right.
- South Africa in particular. Yeah. Okay.
I I had heard the term before. No,
- If you can make your case as benefiting, so
- You were cheating is what
you're telling me. Uhhuh . Okay.
- Fine. In other words, cheating. Correct.
- The larger community - Yeah.
- And make your case, um, selling that idea.
That is a very strong point in southern Africa. It
- Seems like a very powerful concept. Yeah.
- It's exactly the opposite to what we have, for example,
in the US where the individual is the one who stands out
and whatever, if the individual can take care of themselves,
then the community will benefit. Right.
- Right. - Now in Africa, the strong,
there is a strong tradition of a strong man.
And the strong man is always the mo the powerful leader
coming out of a tribal leader.
Sure. The traditional tribal leader,
but the strong man is, is strong
because everyone, he's doing it for the benefit of others.
Now he of course takes care of himself of course. Right.
But the mythology is that it's being done
for the benefit of others. Yeah.
- Right. Right. Okay. Huh. Okay.
- Okay. Number three. Yes.
In African culture, dash DASH. Okay. Alright.
In Nigeria and West Africa, okay.
A is a frequently used request for fast tracking
and individual to a position of authority.
- Huh. - In Nigeria and West Africa.
B is a term for payment similar
to the Arabic notion of bish.
Usually the payment of a fee made in order
to get something done in the extreme, it can be seen
as a bribe in moderation.
It's merely a tip.
- Okay. Okay. - Dash in Nigeria
and West Africa, C refers to a unique dialect
of haa spoken mainly by the business elite.
- Hmm. Okay. Okay.
- Dash in Nigeria
and West Africa, d refers to a specific hand gesture
used by shopkeepers to alert each other, each other
to the presence of shoplifters in the market.
- Wow. Huh. - Okay. I have an answer.
- I do too. I'm not confident
on it, but I'm gonna go with it.
- I'm extremely confident in that. Whoa.
Extremely confident in that. Look at you.
That's right. Ready?
- Yes. I Pepper and salt - BB oh .
- Wow. Attorney for payment.
Similar to the Arabic notion of Bish. You are both correct.
- Yeah. Alright. Yeah.
- That is dash. And again, the implication for
non Nigerians
and non-West Africans,
you're gonna encounter dash wherever you go.
Okay. It can be as innocent as a tip
for a small service like someone carrying your
bags to your hotel room.
Yeah. But it can be as notorious
and ethically compromising as needing
to make a powerful bribe in order
to get somebody to do what. Sure. Do what needs
- To be done.
Sure. It's a wide range. Okay. Yeah.
- That was Nigeria and Western
Africa. Right. West Africa. Okay.
- Okay. Okay. Interesting. Still
- Seen as, um, something that needs to be dealt with
as a problem, but also
- Not a problem.
- Ubiquitous and Yeah. With us nevertheless.
Right, right, right. Okay. Number four.
Okay, question number four outta five.
What's the score, by the way? The
- Score is Tom one 40 to 180.
- You had to bring that up, didn't you? It's gonna be tough
- To beat, but there's still plenty of time.
- Am I, am I,
- Are you number four?
? Unfortunately, I think it refers to a cultural
concept within the cornucopia of cultural concepts
that we're referring to of culture.
Of culture. , that you're all familiar with.
- Doda Doda, - That too. Go ahead. Actually Marabou.
Oh, M-A-R-A-B-O-U-T. Wait,
- Wait, wait, sorry, spell that
- Again.
M-A-R-A-B-O-U-T Marabou in
Senegal and much of West Africa.
Okay. RA literally means to wander
and refers to a respected group of hermetic.
Itinerant tribes believed to possess magical powers. Okay.
Huh. Marabou in Senegal is BA derogatory term
for a wealthy local individual who has amassed his fortune
by working with foreign organizations perceived
to exploit the local people.
- Wow. Alright. - A mabu in Senegal is c religious
and sometimes tribal leader with equal
or greater power than political
or governmental authorities. Hmm.
- Okay. - And d Mabu in Senegal
and much of West Africa refers
to the highest ranking members
of any clan group in the region.
- Okay. Wow. - Okay.
- Huh. - All right.
I have one again. I'm not confident, but
- Yeah, I'm sticking.
I'm really not confident at all on this one. Yeah, no. Um,
- Remember gentlemen, if you're not sure
what you did on the SAT,
- We do know that.
Yes. C . All right.
Uh, I think I really did do that on the SAT. All right.
I'm ready. Yeah, I am too.
It is a good strategy, but it, it doesn't have to be C
but it has to be consistent letter every time.
Right. The same one every time. Yep.
- Okay, we're ready. Alright. - Peppered salt.
- A d. Ooh. - Okay, so I'm a you're
- DA - Literally two really different meanings too
and refers to a respective group
of hermetic itinerant tribes believe
to possess magical powers.
That's not it. And you, Tom, come on
- Baby. Yeah.
- He really needs, what - Was it? D
- Refers to the highest ranking members
of any clan group in the region. No,
- No.
You get chance to
- Make up.
Marabou is a religious
and sometimes tribal leader with equal
or greater power than any political
or governmental authority.
Is that C? That is C.
- C. It's C again. C He keeps saying, see, and I keep away
- Giving it away, guys.
- See, I know you - Are, you've really tried to help
- Us. Wow.
- Oh man. Okay.
- And again, the important point
for somebody working in this region is that just
because you filled out all the paperwork
and did all the right things
to get you into the country in order to do business there.
Yeah. It's not gonna be enough.
Did you build a relationship with the local Mbu.
- Mbu. Gotcha. And
- There's this two-tiered system in
Africa, in much of Africa.
West, central, south and East. Okay.
Africa of, um, there's the government
and then there of the local tribal leaders.
Mm-Hmm. . Okay. And you gotta have both on your
side in order to get anything done. Mm. Right.
- Wow. Okay. - Alright. Last question.
- Okay, we got, here we go. All right. All right.
- See if we can bounce back. - Yeah.
- Amma a double. - MAA double M.
- A. Okay. Next word. Sga. S-A-N-G-A.
- Oh, this is this Amma Sangha.
- No. Two separate words. - Two separate words. SNGA. Okay.
- Amma comma sga. Okay.
Not am sga, but am
- Amma. I gotcha. sga.
- Yeah. Separation. - Am sga. Uhhuh and mungo.
M-U-L-U-N-G-U-M-O-L-U-M-U-L-M-U-U-N-G-U.
Okay. Am sga
and Mungo in West and East Africa.
A are terms that describe different forms
of appropriate greetings in the regions. Okay.
- Okay. - B, terms of endearment used
by adults when speaking with children.
- Okay. Alright. - C Terms that refer to the degree
of deference, one must show when addressing individuals
of greater status and rank.
- Huh? Okay. Huh?
- Or D terms that define the ultimate God.
The ruling spirit of the universe.
- Oh boy. - Okay. Okay. All right. I got an answer.
I do too.
- Again. Not
- Well.
I, I have no faith in it whatsoever.
Yeah, but I have an answer. Yeah.
- Amma, sga and mungo
or refer to A, B, C, or D.
Salt. Rock, pepper, scissors.
- A D. - . I was
- DI was a and he
- Was a I was gonna go C but I changed it last minute.
- Yeah. Well, - So Tom, you you're,
- Oh, I've missed it again.
- You're, you're in - Good grief, .
- Let's wait and see because you are in the
in the catchup seat.
Yeah. We're gonna take your answer first.
- Oh, is that why? Yes. Oh, okay.
- . And you, you, you chose
- A, a - Terms that define different forms
of appropriate greetings. Yes. In region.
- Yes. - No .
That's not, oh, go ahead and laugh. Torin
- Not right either. Yes.
- And your answer was D terms that define the ultimate God,
the ruling spirit of the universe. You are correct.
- Oh no, you're so loyal.
- Really at the last minute. I was gonna go C and changed
- It. Uh, and, and
- Oh, this is completely rigged
because of this, I refuse to accept the results.
Oh no,
- You got - The, please
- Accept - The results.
Torin, you got the payola envelope written. Yeah, yeah.
- Again, let's wait till the end.
- Alright. I'm sorry a minute.
Oh yeah, we'll do it
after the little bit of dash for the, for the, oh,
- There you go.
Dash. See. Very appropriate. See, yeah.
- Yeah. These are all different tribal groups have different
names for, but one of the, again, the implications
for non-African working in the region is
that there is this very strong spiritual belief
that pervades all of, uh, all of African culture
really, but getting stronger as we go west, south, and east.
Okay. And, uh, has many different names
and many aspects of it, of course reveal themselves
through the African, um, um, diaspora to the Americas.
Hmm. And we have different aspects of, of that here in,
in African American culture.
Hmm. Um, but it's powerful in Africa still today. Hmm.
And this idea of this great spirit
that can be accessed either directly
or indirectly through the influence
of key people like Marabou.
Oh, okay. Which is why individuals build
their relationships with
- Marabou. Okay. Yeah. Right.
- Wow. - Um, so very much,
very much important parts of African
- Culture. Yeah,
- Yeah.
Yeah. So how'd you do?
- Okay. I did quite well, I believe. Did you? Oh, yes. Okay.
I, I'm pretty sure. I think
- You're further behind though.
- How does that work? Uh, well I've still got a bunch of,
bunch of points out there to get, so Yeah.
- . Well,
- If you wanna know the score.
No, I don't. I don't wanna know the score. No one does.
All the listeners right now are going, we really don't care.
'cause it's not really about the score. I
- See. That's what you think. Huh?
- It's not about the score as much as it is.
I think they care very much about the, you know, the culture
that we, that we're discussing.
- This is the important point. Those are
- The only thing. Think the score matter
- At - All. Not at all. And
- That makes you feel better.
- Not at all. Oh, it's, does it make me feel better?
? I don't know that that's possible right now You
- Can have another beer. I think
- You'll feel bad.
I bet I'll feel much better. Yes, definitely. Uhhuh, you
- Can always medicalize this issue.
- . That's right. Exactly.
- Um, so you have one,
- Oh, I'm getting a score anyway. That's right. Okay.
- Tom has 140 Uhhuh . Torin has one 90.
- Okay. So a little bit ahead. So yeah.
- So I have to get each one wrong. Uhhuh.
And you have to get each one. Right.
Okay. In for Latin America.
- So you're saying there's a chance to tie
- and I don't know
what the tiebreaker means. Did you hear that?
- Left the tie?
- I know. It's, it's just taunting.
It's, it's, it's worst. And then we
- Figure out a time period of time.
But we're, let's not do it now
'cause we No, no one are the chances of what's gonna happen.
- Let, let's get, because well,
we can deal with it later, but, Mm-Hmm.
because I'm sure we're gonna
have to, but Oh, for sure.
But let's, let's get to it. I'd say let's go.
I I say let's get to, let's it
to Latin America. We're Alright.
- Our final continent.
- Final continent for today, Latin America.
And we're gonna look at Latin American cultural concepts in
the cornucopia of Latin American culture. Of
- Culture.
Of culture. Of culture. The culture, culture.
This is the final. Final. This is it. Alright,
- Now this is it.
- As with the world, this is, well we might do it game the
last today.
- Well, but of our continental,
- Of, of our triplet, whatever it is,
- Of culture, - Our drinking and, and gaming Triplett.
- Yes. And our final episode - Of 2023
- .
- Here's another beer. .
- Alright, we've got - Gentlemen, anyways happen.
- Here we go. Five questions. Yes.
Each question has only one correct answer.
And I have, there are four choices,
four multiple choice answers to each question.
- C , he's already won. Is
- That your answer for all of them?
Yes. . And you win. Yay. That's
- It.
- And what did we, well, we haven't learned
- Anything about culture.
Do we have any, uh, parting gifts from me? Right.
We have to learn about culture. Okay, let's go through,
do we have we ? All right,
- Go ahead.
Question number one. Yes. Okay.
And I think you're all familiar with this.
- Are we? Oh, - Are we jio?
- Absolutely. Spell it - Please. Jio.
J-E-I-T-I-N-H-O. Oh,
- I can't - Spell it.
Jio a Portuguese word. Oh, okay. In Brazil. Oh,
- Okay. Mm.
- Okay. Tino and Brazil.
A refers to the tradition of always Downing three
caps when toasting an honored guest.
- Okay. Ah, - Okay.
- Which is what I do all the time. Absolutely. Day.
- Absolutely. I've been doing all, all the
time here. Right. Don't,
- You don't even have a term for it.
- You just, just do it.
- Just do it. Right. That's just life.
Tino in Brazil, b is a disparaging term
for the racial differences
that exist within the country. There's
- An awful lot of disparaging terms I want to say. I I
- Haven't chosen any of 'em. Condition.
- No, I haven't chosen any of 'em.
- ? No, I'm not that one.
- Jino. Brazil. Yeah.
C is an expression
of pride in the multiracial makeup of Brazilian culture.
- Oh, the opposite. Okay. That is what that is.
Torrance Gas right there. Well, maybe, maybe
- and Tino in Brazil.
The final possible answer d describes a process
of fixing things or situations.
A workaround, even if not quite correct.
As long as the outcome solves the problem.
- Huh? - Huh. Okay. Okay. Alright.
I have an answer. I don't too late. I'm sorry. You lose Oh,
- Oh.
Eh, time's up. You've
- Actually forfeited the entire game. Oh no.
- Katie, I just hit my chin on the microphone.
It may be the Allagash. Um, .
This is the beer I'm having. Um, Dean, can you repeat
- DD if you - Don't mind.
Yeah. The last one. Tino in Brazil describes a process
of fixing things or situations at workaround,
even if not quite correct.
As long as the outcome solves the problem.
- Oh, okay. Okay. I I, I'm, I'm locked in.
- Tom, are - You ready? I'm ready. All
- Right. Yeah.
- Rock, pepper, pepper. Ready, pepper, scissors.
Oh, I've been d uh, no, I just lost. I just lost.
You've already lost. . Oh, .
I hate to break it to you. Get out. I
- Just need to get one of - Five.
The new producer for . Oh, they are now.
- Alright. And the answer is A I was,
it's not correct. Oh, it's
- D It's - Alright.
I was actually, I was between A and
- D, so I'm pretty sure I get extra
points 'cause I was right on it.
- I, I like the tradition of downing needing
to down three. Caper. Absolutely
- Toasting.
'cause we just talked about caper,
- Which is what I did - Alcohol episode a few episodes
- Back, which is what I did with the lizard in my,
in my hotel room in Brazil.
- Right. That's right. But I
- Thought that term may have come up
and that just, so I thought maybe it's
- Not.
Well, I did, I said to the lizard, I said, listen.
Oh, I see. You know, we're gonna be real j Chino here.
Uhhuh . Okay, gotcha. ,
because I had more than three caps and so did you, and
- If you don't know what we're talking about,
go to episode 42. .
- Alright. No, it's actually very similar to the,
in the previous episode we talked about Juga in India. Yes.
- Yeah. - Right. It's similar to this idea of a workaround
because we don't have Sure the resources to do Right.
Do things in a more formal way. Uhhuh .
But in Brazil it's, it's a little bit more of a it,
even if it's not correct.
Even if it's illegal. Mm-Hmm.
- , even - If
- It's not, but it gets the job done
- If it's got too much shadiness attached to it.
Yeah. And maybe some problems attached to it.
Listen, if it gets the job done
- Enough, go with it's enough. It
- Is often forgiven. Yeah.
- Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. All
- Interesting.
- Number two, question number two out of five.
Number two, Tom, number two, think.
I think you're, you're getting close.
- Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm making a
rush to the finish here. I think
- We'll all need about nine points and
- Hey, I got that last one right. Torin,
- You gotta watch out.
- Okay. I'm scared. - I got
that last one right. I'm on a run here. You did really
- Nervous.
You're a hundred percent right.
- That's right. Right. Here we go.
- Number. Okay. Question number two, Reon. Okay.
Reon. Yes. R-E-P-A-R-A-C-I-O-N like reparation.
Gotcha. Yeah. Reon In Cuba.
- In Cuba. Okay. A
- Refers to the payments
that the Cuban government believes must be made
by the US at some future date to compensate
for the decades old US trade embargo.
- Okay. All right. - B refers
to the continual renewal
and refurbishing of old things in order
to keep them operating like the cars. Mm-Hmm.
- . Alright. - In Cuba,
C refers to the enduring side hustle that most Cubans have
to undertake in order to get by.
- Okay. Okay. - And D, last answer.
Ion in Cuba refers to the immigration
of Venezuelans leaving Venezuela for work in Cuba.
A, B, C, or D.
- Interesting. I've got an answer. I do too.
- All right. Rock, scissors, salt.
- B, A. All right. I said A I said B Tom said B
- Tom - Said, oh.
Crying out loud. Wow. Yes. Let's start there. .
Now I have familiarity with Spanish. Oh, I'm so happy.
And it's not doing me any good at all here.
First of all, we had Brazilian Portuguese. Yeah.
And now we have the Cuban Spanish, which we already knew
what the meaning with the, with the word was.
I don't know Spanish, but I, so it's not
helping me at all. Yeah.
- Referring to the continual renewal
and refurbishing of old things.
Yeah. Such as the cars, which definitely happens,
but that's not that bad on and Mm-Hmm.
And to, in you chose
- A, he went for the money from the United States. Uh,
- The repayment.
Yeah. Okay. The answer is C,
the enduring side hustle that most Cubans have to have to do
to take in order to get by daily.
- Well, I did think about that. Does that count?
Yeah, I did too. I did Did you
- Think about it?
I did. I give him, give him a hundred points.
- . I think we each got five
because we did consider it.
Yep. Yeah.
- I think you were close. Yeah.
Well, and you both, like you were both right before
and now you were both wrong. So doesn't that count for
- Something?
Well, you see, in my case, what I was thinking of was
that these individual Cubans were having to
redo these things that they had,
which was their side hustle to keep them going. Yeah.
- Yeah. - And so I believe I'm a hundred percent correct
on that one actually.
- Yeah, you are. I mean, you were correct.
You just didn't say it .
- You just, you're correct. You're just not,
I see's the thing I see.
You gotta circle the, that's pretty much the story
of how I've been doing . Yeah, that's
- Right.
That's right. Well, let's see how, if you,
how you improve with number
- Three, five.
I'm gonna get into the beer. Hang on. Right.
, I'm not paying attention.
I'm just picking letters now.
I'm finishing my second, so it doesn't matter.
, the beer is obviously helping me. Obviously.
I'm saying I'm giving all the credit to the beer.
It really is . That's Allagash, uh, all that's right.
Out of Maine. Who can Beautiful. Absolutely.
Become a sponsor of this brew. It's my favorite beer. Yeah.
Of any beer. It's a very nice beer. Please sponsor us. Yes.
- Okay. Question number three. .
Here we go. In Mexico.
- Okay. - Malin hemo.
Ah, A describes an attitude of disrespecting
and disparaging one's own culture.
In this case, the disparaging of Mexican culture
by Mexicans.
- Okay. Specifically that. Okay.
- B Malin chimo refers to a form of silent machismo
where men in authority at work prevent equally
or better qualified women from accessing positions
of similar authority.
- Okay. - D Smo is a nonverbal hand
signal that indicates agreement
often used at business negotiations.
- Hmm. Okay. - And d the last answer,
Malin chimo in Mexico refers to an annual harvest
festival in Chiapas,
that local indigenous groups have expanded into a major
regional celebration of their pre-Columbian traditions.
- Okay. - Okay.
Can you, uh, reread or summarize a for me please?
- Describes an attitude of disrespecting
and disparaging one's own culture, in this case,
the disparaging of Mexican culture by Mexicans.
- Okay. Thank you. - I have my answer.
- I do also. - And
rock paper, scissors.
- A, - B.
Interesting. I said BI
- Said a - Dorin.
You referred to a form of silent machismo
where men in authority at work prevent equally
or better qualified women from accessing positions
of similar authority. You're not right.
- Really? Mm. Okay. - And Tom, you chose
- A, - Describes an attitude of districting
and disparaging one's own culture.
Mexican culture by Mexicans. You are correct.
- Ah-Huh? . - Can I, can I dispute ?
- Actually, actually, what you can do now is be
very quiet .
Because, because you just earned yourself
so much face in Japan. .
- There we go. Nice. - You know, it, it reminded me of
what you just did of, and it's sweet.
It's really, oh, it's kind of nice. .
- Really? We're going to Nice and sweet now.
- Yeah. Thank you. It's like, like, wow.
Like, you know, in baseball, in Japan,
the losing team never loses by much.
Mm-Hmm. Because the winning team, right.
Just, just fumbles know Exactly.
Happening to stay just ahead
- To win.
Oh. Is that what's going on? Being mer
- I think Mercy being, this was a mercy and that's
- Exactly what's happening.
You people are the lowest . Was that?
It was that. No, I will say this, I just complained
because my knowledge of Spanish hadn't helped me at all.
And it absolutely helped me on that one.
Well, but we How was that? MAL is bad in Spanish.
Well, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
And a chimo I know too. So, right. But
- However bad behavior.
But, but it's deeper than that, right?
- Yeah. But, but if you fit more than others, episode,
- Hold on.
Episode 40, we discussed La Malke
- La culture. Right? And who was she?
- So I thought it was referring to, it was La la Malke who,
um, was, I'm forgetting the, um, conquistador
- Cortez. Cortez
- Cortez.
Right. The pig farmer. Right.
Um, who enslaved Ma
and Malke could speak many different languages.
- And so she, I including Spanish
and her local language. Right.
- And so she was useful, um, you know, in,
in sort of helping in that way.
But she was forced to do so.
But in Mexican culture, she was considered as a betrayer
for many, for, for,
- You know, because she led Cortez.
- 'cause she assisted Cortes - To Mata. Zuma. Right.
- And so, in my mind, I thought, okay, it's so,
it's a putting down of woman, women in the,
and culturally it's, you know, machismo.
So that's why, that's why I wanna be,
- But that's really all, you know,
you are working from a very recent
reexamination of Malin Chimo.
That was my issue. Machismo traditionally.
And I knew too much historically. You knew too much.
- Well, let smarty pants, lemme point out something here.
I was too weak and forward.
This is, this is torn also referring to his phone
and looking up previous episode episodes.
That's all I looked up. So
that he can then reference them with information.
This is how he's winning. Winning.
I looked up No. Clearly how he's
- Winning.
Listen, no, we very,
- I, on the other hand - And just trying
- Advanced run the equipment for recording
and doing the job that I'm intended to do.
- We have very - Advanced equipment
and being nice, clever and so forth.
- And all there, there's a firewall
of Google here. We don't allow Google.
- Oh, is that right? Can't look it up. Is that right? I It's
- Impossible.
Yeah. If you try It doesn't work.
- Uhhuh. We've - Got everything else
works. We've got every, just
- Not that , which is kind
of amazing since I'm actually working through
that firewall right now.
But, all right. Nevertheless, all,
- Okay.
- So can you just, I'm, I'm not saying anything negative.
I'm just saying, I'm just pointing something out. Of course.
That's all I'm doing. So,
- Okay.
So I'm sorry. Can you explain a, if, if you,
- Yeah, because traditionally Malin Chimo was a,
a putting down of women.
Mm. Um, and, and used as a machismo, an element of machismo.
Mm-Hmm. In Mexico. Mm.
Um, but the re the more recent reinterpretation
of Malin Chi is that she was a woman to be admired.
Mm-Hmm. She did what she had to do to survive. Mm-Hmm.
Right, right. And so you were working from that. Mm-Hmm.
. And, and,
and the actual understanding
of the term is the more traditional one.
- So, so a is, I'm sorry, say what a was again. It
- Describes an attitude of disrespecting
and disparaging one's own culture.
Um, as she did. Right. She betrayed. Oh, I see.
- Zuma. That was, that was the perception.
- That was the perception. Right, right. Gotcha.
Because she came, she saw Cortez was the guy who was now,
she wanted to throw her lot in with, uh,
'cause he was, he was, he looked like the guy
who was gonna be taking over.
Right. So she betrayed Zuma and hooked up with him.
I got you. Interesting. The old tradition.
- Right. Okay. Interesting. Right.
- Okay. Alright. Alright. So Tom gets 120 points on
- Excellent. Excellent. But that
- Wasn't apparent. And
- Oh, it's very apparent. .
- I told you I was competitive.
- You're a sore winner also. Yeah,
- I was kind of just sore. Yeah.
- Whoa, whoa. Well, I'm sorry.
Maybe some cream will help you. A sore
- Winner is, - Well, hey, see that?
Ooh.
- All right. I'm, I'm walking - Away.
Game shows. Get my competitive juice.
- Go. I'm, and we are moving on number
- Four. How many do
- We have left? Oh, only two
- Left.
Four out of five. Here we are simpatico in Columbia.
Oh, in Columbia. Okay. S-I-M-P-A-T-I-O-I-T-I-C-O. Mm-Hmm.
Okay. Yes. Simpatico in Columbia, a refers
to an unachievable state of perfection used
as a standard against which the quality of things
and people is often judged. Okay.
- Uhhuh - Simpatico in Columbia B is similar
to the Asian notion of not losing face,
but without the obligation to make face for others.
- Huh. Okay. Wow.
- Okay. Simpatico in Columbia Sea refers to anyone
who is impeccably and fashionably dressed.
- Uhhuh. - Okay.
- And the last possible answer, simpatico in Columbia
is a term used to describe a sense of shared attitude,
perspective, or chemistry between people.
- Okay. - Okay. All right. I know the answer.
- I, I think I do too,
but yeah, I'm, I'm gonna go with it. We'll see.
- All right. I'm ready. - Me too.
- Rocky scissors paper - D Yeah. A term used,
- Because it's also, it's become an English term,
- A sense of shared attitude, perspective,
or chemistry between people often used as an explanation as
to why certain people are easy
or difficult to get along with. Mm,
- Yes.
- Right. Like we're simpatico. Yes.
- Right. And it's used in,
we're vibing we're it's used in English
as Anglos in American English
because of the influence of Hispanic part.
That's right. Particularly Mexican
and South American culture.
- Absolutely. - Okay. I didn't know it came from that.
So that's interesting. Yeah. Yes. Okay.
Now is it from Columbia specifically or?
- No, it's used in a lot of, a lot of countries. Okay.
Um, Hispanic countries in the region. Okay. Yeah.
Interesting. And you know, it's a complicated region
as old ma big regions are.
Mm-Hmm. Um, it's mainly Hispanic,
but not only Hispanic. Yeah.
- Okay. Right, right. The
- Largest, the largest country in Latin
America is not Latin.
Mm-Hmm. Well, it's Latin,
but it's certainly not Hispanic. Right, right.
- It's Brazil. So, which is very large,
which we've talked about also, um, in,
in si just, just in size.
Um, so many people in North America don't realize
the size of Brazil.
- And even the languages that are spoken in Hispanic,
Latin America, I think, I think if you add up the majority
of languages that are spoken in Mexico Mm-Hmm.
It's almost 50% of the people speak as a first language,
their indigenous language.
- Mm-Hmm. . Sure. - Not Spanish.
- Yeah. Right. Yeah.
- The complications and upon complications. Right.
Last question, gentlemen,
- This - Is your chance.
- Are we fireworks or - Anything? This
- Has got extra points.
Doesn't this one have extra points? This
- One has 500 points. Wait, I forgot
- Two points for that letter.
500 points. 500
- Points.
Okay. So fi so final, well, not final score update,
but second pen, ultimate score update.
Tom, one 70, torn two 10. So
- You just need to get, so I can easily catch it.
- You just need to get 50 points and I
- Will get to, well, this is a 500 point question.
- Is it? Okay. This is, - This is 500 point
- Question.
This probably will decide the winner. I see, I
- See.
- Uhhuh. Okay. It a 500 point question.
Well, for me it's a five question
that may not be for you. Okay. Sure.
- Heard me. It's negative 500.
- What? That's exactly right. .
- Now, here - We go. All right, I'm ready.
Just say I'm ready. Oh boy. The final question.
- - Lada.
- Excuse me. La
- Okay.
Ga Gda.
G-A-U-C-H-A-D-A. Gda.
- Okay. - Guda. Okay. Spell that again for me please.
- G-A-U-C-H-A-D-A. - Okay.
- La gda. Mm-Hmm. in, I said that wrong.
La Gda in Argentina. Okay. Mm-Hmm.
- . - And I'm gonna add here as a hint,
specifically in Argentina.
- Okay. - Okay. Uhhuh
- A is a term used mainly by residents of Buenos Aires,
is when referring to people
of the rural interior north of the country.
- Okay. Okay. - Lada.
Ada B is a term used to describe the unique
and still active Fagan culture on the extreme Southern
Argentinian island of Ra del
- Ah, I want go there. Okay. Uhhuh,
- The fire land - C Lada
ostensibly means a gift,
but really describes the common practice
of requesting someone's help to solve a problem
that asks them to go out of their way in order to do so.
- Hmm. Okay. Okay.
- And d the final possible answer.
La ga chadda refers to the conditions La ga chadda
of having gained too much weight due
to overindulging in sweets and desserts.
- Huh. Wow. Okay.
I I, I have
- No clue as in suffering from the
lada uhhuh or,
- So I'm gonna go with the one I like.
- I , I I actually have one I like and,
and the one I believe it is.
So I'm gonna go with the one I believe it is. All right,
- We're ready.
- Rock, scissors, paper - A. Which one did you do?
- B? 'cause I want to go to Ro del quick. Oh,
- Well if I'm, I'm, I'm hoping that I'm, I'm
- Into tear though. Have you? Yes.
- Have you been to the National park there?
I was just looking it up. Oh.
Did you ride the end of the world train?
- No. Oh no. We were there on the way to,
on the way to Antarctica. Yeah.
- Oh, sure. Right. Oh, - Right. Sch
- Speaking of Sea. I haven't brought that, that
- There you go.
Antarctica. Yeah. We'll talk about, no,
I brought up up two episodes ago.
Did you? At the very beginning of the episode. Oh, yep.
Okay. Yep. And, uh, I've been discounted.
No, as I've penguins, thes entire,
these three episodes were penguins.
Penguins is the answer every time Penguins. So,
- But you know, one of the, interestingly, the, the ancient,
uh, uh, Fagan culture is really not alive anymore.
I mean, it's not active. There, there, there are,
there are people who trace the roots and,
and refer to themselves as Fagan.
Yeah. But one of the, um, the, one of the issues is
that the fagans were basically, um, nudists really.
They did not dress up as far as we know. That
- Seems weird given that that's gonna get cold.
Right? Yeah. This time
of the year, it'd be kind of chilly there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Or this time of the year, it'd be warm there. Actually,
- No, it's winter there - Not in December,
which is when this was coming out.
- Ah, . Well, yes, , that,
- That's in - Parentheses. Well, that's in
- Parentheses. You didn't hear
- That. We may
- Be recording earlier than when this is coming
- Out.
Hold on, listeners. You
didn't hear That's significantly earlier.
I get another beer, . Here you go.
No, I just pour it in my mouth. That'll be fine.
- Thank you. So Torin, your answer was, uh,
- It was B Yeah.
- Referring to the ancient GaN, which
- I don't think is right. But
- Go Fagan culture sounds - Really wrong right now.
- It it really is wrong. . It really is.
- Oh, no, I lose points on that. Oh,
- Yeah. You
- Lost 500 points on, - Oh, no
- Luck - Out your answer. Tom
- .
Mine was, I be, I think it was a,
was about the people in the,
in northern part of the country. I'm pretty sure,
- Uh, a term used mainly by residents
of Buenos Aires when referring to people
of the rural interior north of the country.
Yes. Yeah. That was your answer. Yes.
Yeah. Both of you were wrong.
- Oh, no. Oh, - You had a shot, Tom. You had
- A shot.
Really? It's a,
- If the answer is C, it it, oh, of
- Course.
- It's, it refers to a gift,
but it really means the common practice
- Question.
Yeah. Was my next bet's help Yeah.
- Of requesting someone's help
- That specifically requires them to go out of their way.
So you apologize for the, for the intrusion and the,
and the need for them to go out of their way to help you.
- Okay. - And this really talks to a lot
of issues in Argent, in Argentine culture.
Hmm. Um, because, you know, the people
who founded the Europeans, who came to the Southern Cone
once Europeans started coming to South America,
came much later than the conquistadors.
Mm-Hmm. . So, Argentina, Uwe, Powe, these are
19th century Europeans who have notions of expectations
that the government's gonna take care of me.
Mm-Hmm. . Right. And
that we're all in it together.
Right, right. And, um, so this idea of when things go south,
of being able to depend on Mm-Hmm.
Uh, hopefully the government.
But if, if you, if it's a leftist government,
if it's a rightist government, maybe not,
although the petista were rightist,
but in some way getting help because,
because you deserve it.
And because people should help each other.
This is what this term
- Refers to.
I'm sorry, I don't understand that concept at all.
, uh, I, living here in the United States,
it seems like a foreign concept to me.
Completely. Yeah. Unfortunately.
- So neither of you .
- Interesting. Okay. Huh. So neither
of us got that last one. And
- You could have had 500 extra points,
but you lost 500 points.
So nobody wins. And next time we're on
- I to - The next culture quiz,
- Tom has final scores, one 70 to in two
- 10, same as the penultimate.
But, um, . So it, it, it, I, what I did with on
that one is I went, well, thank you.
But it, maybe it was,
maybe it wasn't, but it was, it was fun.
It was, it, it was fun. And the see went with it quite well.
Went, I went, when, when you described it as being
specifically Argentinian, I went with Gauchos. Yeah.
- 'cause I said gda. Oh, I knew that was gonna trip you up.
- And it's a hda probably because
- You kept leaning into your spouse.
- I know. I know, - I know. And there were times you just
- Can't do that.
I thought, okay, maybe it's the gauchos, and they may be,
and I'm, I'm trying to think where were they centered,
but that same idea still works,
because I really thought hard about C mm-Hmm.
Because that, that correcting answer, they had
- To depend on each other. They
- Independent on each other.
And those particular people
who were like cowboys in the United States.
Right. Like cowboys. Right, right.
They were people who would help others out even
if they had to go out of their way.
Oh, yeah. Which is the cowboy tradition in the US too.
Right, right, right. And it's very similar of that. Yeah.
Yeah. Very similar. So, yeah. Yeah.
- But, but you didn't go there, did you?
- I, I think I might have once Did
- He thought of, let's check - Back on
this, on the recording.
- Let's the Tom, once again, you thought
of the right answer, but you said,
- I said the wrong, I just got the wrong letter.
That's all. That's
- All it was. All right. So we'll
- Give it to you.
Oh, thank you. Oh, well. Sure. So I
- Win if you like, but you still lose.
I win.
- All right. Well, congratulations. But you
- Know what, we Well, thank you.
But we all made, because we had fun
and we learned, we learned many cultural concepts, didn't
- We?
It all so easy to say that from the
privileged position of being the
winner. But thank you for that.
- No, it's very, it's very easy to say from
- That position. You're
- Exactly right. I,
- Lemme me say it that way.
You don't have, oh, there you go. Suffer. Oh,
- Oh, yes.
And I did suffer from your highfalutin, uh,
from your throne. That's
- Right. Right from your throne.
- Well, we didn't establish what the person who wins Will,
will win, will be awarded
- What the person will our undying respect.
Or at least until the end of the episode. No,
- What the person wins.
Okay. What the person wins.
- It's greater knowledge. I - Mean, I'll take it
- , - But the person
- Wins.
We're getting you another beer actually. Okay. That
- Works too.
Is a free set of my books. . Yeah.
- Again, otherwise - I was paying
- For 'em.
More of them. ,
- Which you can order Dear listener on Amazon.
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- Well, this was great fun. It was
- Wonderful fun. This
- Was fun.
And I should say it's appropriate, we ended on Argentina
because we have an episode about shoes
and Argentinian pink underwear. Ooh. Which is really about
- New, an early one, - Which is yes.
Number three coming
- Up towards - Something
- That we've done.
Well, that was episode number three,
but it was really about New Year's celebrations.
That's right. That we're a few years from on the Gregorian
calendar from New Year's. So happy a
- Few years, a few - Months from months, few weeks, months.
We're December 28th.
This is coming out. So we're few months.
- Yeah, we're a few, a few weeks from,
from, actually you said years,
- Few months.
Oh, I meant say a few days.
- Correction. Correction.
- A few. It's the beer. A few days from a new year.
So happy that almost 20, 24 for those who observed the good,
- Greg.
And you can find out about the New Year's tradition
of always wearing pink underwear.
Yes. If you're there, you go by listening
to our episode number three.
- Number three. Number three,
go back and check that one out.
- And it is Argentinian, not Argentine.
You'll. That's right. Find out why in
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