Welcome to episode 300 of the Microsoft cloud.
It pro podcast recorded live on September 16th, 2022.
This is a show about Microsoft 365 in Azure,
from the perspective of it pros and end users,
where we discuss the topic or recent news and how it relates to you. Wow.
We made it to episode 300 to celebrate Scott and I
kick off talking about air fried tequila, angel food cake.
Ask us next week about how it actually tastes from there.
We talk about recent news around the Uber hack security
and MFA,
and how all of that relates to Uber before spending some time talking about
why you absolutely should not buy Microsoft 365 from
go daddy. But if you have how you can free yourself from their grasp
episode 300 to choose this episode 300. I.
Did. that's.
That's why I opened up with talking about tequila in the pre-show, but anyway,
tequila.
Let's let's so, okay.
Let's redo the pre-show to celebrate episode 300.
We are talking about tequila shot angel food cake is apparently your
solution to all my woes.
Yes.
Celebrating this podcast episode.
I know tos all in the news, very bad, blah, blah, blah, doom, scrolling,
all those kinds of things, but it's super easy just to hop on and, you know,
scroll, scroll away. So one of the things I saw the other day on, you know,
my version of my,
for you page and to was a air fried
tequila. So angel food cake thing, I didn't,
this was the thing I've never heard this. So it's just tequila and lime juice.
And then angel food cake, like cut up into little bite size cubes. You know,
you soak it,
throw it in the air fryer for eight minutes at turns through 50 Fahrenheit and
you pull it out and pop some powdered sugar on top.
And Bob's your uncle like? You're all good. You're eating a,
a little air fry, English shot.
I didn't even know this was a thing like I've only ever seen these on TikTok and
then Uhhuh , you know,
just for posterity through it in the show notes here I had to go search
around for it and yeah, fried tequila shots are totally a thing.
So if anybody wants to try these things virtually with me and report back,
I'm all in. I think this is what I'm gonna try and do this weekend.
I want to try them in person with you because I don't have an air fryer and I
don't have tequila.
I have an air fryer and a deep fryer. So we, we do it all.
see. And I don't drink alcohol, but if you're gonna air fry it,
then it's all essentially boiled, not really boiled.
Does it fry off the alcohol then essentially bakes off the alcohol?
It, it evaporates. Yes.
Evaporates the alcohol. That's the word I was looking for, but it sounds like,
so is it kinda like a caramelized angel food cake then with powdered sugar?
I.
Think it'd be a crispy angel food cake with a tequila slash lime flavor with
powdered sugar flavor on it. Yeah. Sour and sweet.
Yeah. I'm not a big fan Aquila. And I'm, I'm a little unsure about if I,
the lime does lime help tequila taste that much better again,
me coming from my oblivion. Yes.
Yes it does.
Okay. So you need to mix the lime with the tequila, even when you fry it.
Yeah. Or you do your shot of tequila and you know, you just suck down that lime.
Or just suck down a lime. You'll.
Be okay. I can help you figure all this out. We'll get you there. Any who,
you know, what really makes you want to drink?
Oh, I'm so confused. You know who else is in the news? Oh, else.
Drink else.
Is what were you gonna say?
No, I was gonna say, you know,
what else really makes you wanna drink is trying to Def
federate your domain,
your Microsoft 365 domain from GoDaddy and extricate yourself that does from
goad land. I.
Thought you were gonna say working at Uber makes you wanna drink. It.
Could, uh, yeah. Pour one out for your friends at Uber.
If you have anybody there,
especially anybody on like their blue teams or IR teams, things like that.
The hack that was recently announced it was today.
I thought it was like last night, this morning. Yeah. Doesn't sound too good.
Turn your credit monitoring back on. If you didn't have it, all that,
all that fun stuff.
Right? All that good stuff. I saw a recent article that it sounds like,
and Uber's been relatively quiet,
which you don't blame 'em that maybe the hacker still has complete control of
all their cloud servers and everything.
This could make an interesting podcast in of itself.
Just talking about the security implications of things that you don't do,
like putting admin credentials and plain text in a PowerShell script.
, you know, there's, I think there's a bunch of interesting things.
Like if you, from all accounts,
what it looks like so far with the Uber hack is it was an MFA Phish
that they were able to get in through. And .
So the user that was compromised was being spammed with MFA
requests and they were getting so many of them that
somebody reached out over WhatsApp and,
and kind of just pretended to be Uber it and said, really,
the only way you can make this go away is to log into
your account and do this. And,
and they were able to kind of fish that credential and, and,
and get in that way, you know, like Fido keys are a thing.
I know they haven't been as prevalent,
but they do stop those kinds of attacks.
for like dead in their tracks in, in the first place.
It really doesn't matter at that point.
So maybe this is yet another public lesson that if you're not
doing pH keys and you have the ability to do it within your environment,
you definitely want to go down that path.
Maybe kind of sorta like you probably don't want to be doing OTP
either in-app or SMS or, or those kinds of things.
If you can avoid it like a physical key is not a bad way.
To go. Oh no, I wanna go talk about God, daddy, but this is interesting.
We may have to come back to this,
cuz I also have questions about phyto keys then, because you can get,
for instance,
UBI key UBI key sells a really tiny Fido key that you just kind of plug in your
laptop, but then people plug it in and forget it.
Doesn't this introduce another form of a
security flaw in that the Fido key is always right with your laptop.
Like right now, rarely if I would lose my laptop, leave it on a plane,
whatever I might do, chances are not gonna leave my phone with it.
I guess even if you stole my backpack by setting my backpack down in a coffee
shop, chances are in my phone is in my pocket.
Somebody grabs my backpack and runs.
My second MFA is still separate from my device.
But if you have a phyto key and it's just always plugged into your laptop,
it kind of defeats the purpose. Doesn't it.
A little bit. I, I mean, you shouldn't always be plugged in there.
There is that piece.
Of it. I can only hear Ben's audio until he fixes Scott's audio,
come join the membership site.
And then you can hear both of our audios live while we record and yell at me.
When I forget to turn on Scott's audio and discord.
I keep coming from new terms for you every week. This week,
you were my audio engineer next week. You might be the producer. I don't know.
We'll see. But, but back to the, the key thing,
I think some of that is sometimes like mitigated along the way. You know,
I use like we have like secure workstations at work and we use
UBI keys for those, like they auto disconnect, you know,
you ha you do have to be very intentional about saying like, okay,
I'm gonna go ahead and pin in now for this type of activity, what,
whatever it happens to be,
I'd rather live in that world where you've at least
mitigated potentially like outside malicious actors versus
somebody who potentially has physical access to your device.
Like somebody who could walk up to my laptop while I was using it in an
unsecured location and walk up to the UBI key and tap it. And they knew my pin.
There's a whole bunch of mitigating factors there that can kind of help you out.
That is very true. So speaking of UBI keys,
I promised we were gonna get to go daddy.
I had an interesting thing with a UBI key. The other day,
I had a client that I know uses UBI, keys,
contact me and say, I'm a little worried something's happened on my computer.
It's randomly typing in strings of text in sending them
like teams messages. He was sending out emails.
He was sending out all kinds of these random strings.
And finally he sent me a video and sent me one of 'em and I looked at it and I'm
like, do you have your UBI key?
Like just sitting there plugged into your laptop somehow.
I don't know if something was bumping it. If it was cat that was bumping it.
If the, the UBI key actually acted up,
the UBI key actually acts like a keyboard.
So if you plug into UBI key and you're in notepad or teams or any of that,
and you touch it,
it'll throw in a random string of text because of kind of how it works and
actually do a carriage return at the end. So if it's in a message,
it will actually send that string.
And his UBI key was just somehow typing in string. After string,
after string of text, it was somewhat bizarre.
Uh.
Have you ever seen this?
I've never run into that before.
My UBI key does not type text when I press it really.
So here is I will do one in discord in our live chat.
So I just plugged in my UBI key. Assuming this USB hub is plugged in,
it's not doing it now. I don't know if I can reach my other one.
I'll have to show you what it does, but I've seen this and I,
it must be some configuration with it. And I don't know.
That was kind of, you know,
search around in the background while you were talking about this.
So apparently it has to do with using U BT
for OTP generation versus just doing
like a T OTP or an OTP on top of it.
Got, there you go. Some discord.
, it's basically your OTP, like coming through,
so you should stop doing that .
So that, well, it changes every time you do it.
So was that like the six digit OTP code?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the way OT OTP is.
Right for the 30 seconds.
Yeah. They change all the time too. So .
So that's like an encrypted OTP code, I.
Guess. Yeah. With the, with the new line character thrown at the end,
just for like an extra, an extra bump to make it fun.
So when you're in your team message or something like that, well.
So there's my OTP code and discord for like the next 15 seconds now,
until it rolls over. But I don't even know what that OTP code is for.
Cause technically you can put multiple OTP codes on it. Right?
Uh, you can. Yeah.
So how does it know what that OTP code would account that's even for?
I have no idea.
So anyways,
that's a side topic of UBI keys and pushing it and random texts getting sent to
people.
Well, that's a new one for me. Never run into that with my UBI key for the,
the more, you know, I guess.
Yes. So anywho. Okay.
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So back to now that we've talked about UV keys and Uber and MFA and all the
things,
another topic kind of going sort of related to this it's kinda
identity login related is go daddy, 365,
as some people term it or buy Microsoft from go daddy,
Microsoft 365 from GoDaddy. Do you have thoughts on this Scott? Oh.
No one should ever buy their M the 365 tenant from GoDaddy.
There's all sorts of
weirdness that comes along the way there.
And you're not just putting yourself in a model where you're paying
GoDaddy for your M 365 tenancy.
You're giving up a ton of control when it just comes to you,
the management of your tenant and the users within your
tenant,
and then the level of even support that you're going
to be able to get there.
So I understand why lots of folks would say,
especially like in the SMB space where I have my domains with
GoDaddy, I don't think anybody should have their domains with GoDaddy either,
but that's another discussion,
but you have your domains with GoDaddy and it was nice and easy.
And it was a quick way for me to onboard to M
365. I totally get all of that, but yeah, you,
you shouldn't do it. It's,
it's a strategic partnership between Microsoft and
goad and you know,
I think it benefits Microsoft a little bit. I don't know.
It might actually do more harm in the end,
just with the folks who run into issues along the way,
but it certainly benefits goad because they get to do I,
the little bit of the CSP thing,
and you don't potentially bring like over the top services, but in just a,
a worse way. So, you know,
your first line of support is gonna be go daddy's tech support.
I don't know if anyone has ever called in to go daddy tech support,
but you don't want to have to call in to go daddy tech support to get something
fixed. Like basically it's not gonna happen.
It's not gonna get fixed and good luck finding a forum or someplace else that
has some type of official answer. But that's where you're gonna have to go in,
in a lot of cases, particularly when it comes to like user issues,
like password reset or authentication, things like that,
like you're gonna be going over to the go daddy side of the house. First.
There's also limitations to what you can do when it comes to things like
federated identity. You know, we were just talking about the whole MFA thing.
Two step two factor authentication. You're gonna be pretty limited there.
They used to do. I, I don't know if they still do this.
It's it's been a hot minute since I've seen one of these.
Do they still do the over the top user management too?
So when you try and do things like reset a user password,
you don't actually reset the password in the M 365 portal.
You're taken back to just this crazy go daddy portal.
And then it's super easy to select the wrong user.
Like you forget the user that you were working with. Like things like that.
It's, it's just it's it's not good.
yeah. The whole thing is bizarre. And this is one of the reasons,
and let's be honest.
We're gonna end up contacting GoDaddy support a lot because what they do
is when you get Microsoft 365 from goad, like you said,
they're a CSP. So technically you're buying it from GoDaddy go,
daddy's buying it from Microsoft, but not only do they do that,
but to your point, they then have like their own identity provider,
some GoDaddy identity provider that they federate with office
365. So when you go to like portal.office.com,
you log in, or you go to portal@office.com,
you type in your username and you get redirected to like a GoDaddy login
screen,
you type in your username password to log to whatever GoDaddy I
is using for their identity provider. And they,
hi hijack everything from the admin screens to the
user management screens,
to even what menu items are available in
like Azure ad, for instance, messing with custom domains,
you lose some ability there. Like,
I don't know how GoDaddy worked this deal. And frankly,
I don't know why Microsoft allows them to do this because to your point,
I think it does hurt Microsoft. I think it hurts. At least the experience.
Maybe they get a bunch of customers from it.
But the user experience of Microsoft 365 through GoDaddy is absolutely
horrible. And if you go to any of the Microsoft documentation,
how to do something,
it doesn't work because GoDaddy has like taken
complete control of your office 365 tenant. I don't know how they do it,
how Microsoft gave them permission to do it.
But it's absolutely bizarre.
Yeah. like you said, it brings users. So.
Don't please don't.
Don't, you know,
I wonder how much of it is just maybe Microsoft doesn't even feel the pain of it
because GoDaddy tends to be the first line of support and you
have to go that way because you bought it from them kind of thing.
So if a tree falls in the woods, but nobody's there to hear it.
Does it make a sound? It, I don't know.
yeah. It's and I have, I have never bought it.
I will never tell anybody to buy it,
but I have experienced it way more times than I care to
because I will get customers that come in want help,
never had 'em before new customer. And I need help with my Microsoft 365.
I go, they send me, maybe they set up credentials for me, whatever it is.
And it is, as soon as you type 'em in, you see, it's go daddy. And I'm like,
Ugh, not again. I'm like, okay, first project,
we're going to migrate you off of go daddy into Microsoft 365.
Sometimes they bite and they'll do that.
Sometimes they wanna stick with go daddy,
but I always try to get people. I'm like, okay, I know this is gonna be painful.
We may have SharePoint documents to move. We may have emails to move,
but we really should get you off of goad.
And part of the problem is, is like you said,
they bought their domain. Usually what happens is they started their company.
They wanted a domain name for their company.
They went to GoDaddy and bought their domain name, which I'm with you.
I don't ever buy domain names from GoDaddy anymore. I used to don't do it.
I don't do it anymore.
And then they want email and GoDaddy like offers them office
365, or they know they want office 365.
And if they haven't done this before, they're like, oh, well my domain type go,
daddy. I should just get office 365 there, make it all nice and easy. Oh,
it's not easy. It's not friendly it. Yeah,
you should migrate it off.
I don't care if you keep your domain there just don't do Microsoft 365 there
I would migrate 'em off. And part of the problem is,
is getting that custom domain out because go,
daddy grabs it and they hold onto it for all their worth.
So up until recently, it was always a phone call to go daddy.
And you had to like contact their support and say, Hey,
I want to take this custom domain out. I want to get rid of this.
Can you, they do like a cease and desist internally.
When you talk to their tech support,
it's like a cease and desist on your custom domain.
I don't even know what that means or why they would have to do that.
But then you could go at it to another tenant and start migrating stuff.
The problem is is if you do it that way,
when you do that cease and desist thing and release the custom domain,
they just delete your whole tenant.
Your whole tenant goes away and you don't have a way to access it.
So you can't do any type of partial migration or anything like that.
It's just, it's super bizarre. But I found a new way to do this.
Scott just like within the last month. Yeah.
Tell.
Me more.
You can actually use PowerShell and de federate
go daddy from your office 365 tenant.
So we'll put this link in the show notes. This is not my blog.
It's T 365. It's Microsoft.
It's a Microsoft blog for MSPs,
but if you have purchased GoDaddy or purchased Microsoft
365 from GoDaddy,
you can still log into PowerShell and use
PowerShell to connect to.
They use the MSL commands. I think you still have to use these.
If I remember right from when I looked and go in and
detach your Microsoft 365 tenant
from your go daddy environment.
So that it goes back to just the normal Microsoft 365 login.
There's a lot of steps to do here.
There's some things you wanna be careful of,
especially when it comes to completely canceling go daddy,
because while this Def federates your domain,
you're still gonna end up paying GoDaddy for all of it.
So you have to go cancel your go daddy subscription,
but you wanna make sure you've removed GoDaddy as a delegated admin and partner.
Otherwise, when you cancel your subscription, they'll still have rights,
even though you've deeded to go delete your Microsoft
365 account and licenses and all that.
So the gist of this article is you go in with PowerShell de federate,
go buy licenses at this point in time because it's been deeded
buy 'em straight from Microsoft, buy 'em from another CSP,
buy 'em from whoever you want to get everybody licensed set up with these
other licenses, go into the partner section of office 365,
delete GoDaddy as a reseller,
delegated admin, all of this stuff,
and then just go cancel your GoDaddy subscription. At this point in time,
you'll own your Microsoft 365 tenant.
You'll still have all the licenses you haven't bought from whoever you want to.
And while this originally came from GoDaddy,
they no longer have any access to do anything with it,
hijack anything or change anything in it. It's kind of a nifty little.
Solution for sure. You know, it's interesting.
kind of the level of extra steps you have to go through beyond just
saying like, Hey, I,
I'm going to remove that Federation re remove that
relationship between Microsoft, your,
your Microsoft tendency and kind of the default IDP,
and then whatever identity provider GoDaddy's using and just all the things
that you need to do there when it comes to like user management and password
resets. And, you know,
that's potentially pretty painful depending on the number of users you have and,
and everything else, cuz it's a big bang approach. You gotta do it all at once.
And then you've gotta reconfigure client tooling along the way. So, you know,
I change your password in M 365,
then you're gonna have to re-log it back into your mailbox. That kind of thing.
Yeah.
So I would say there, like you said, there's still a lot of steps. Honestly.
I would probably still migrate away.
This makes the migration easier and reason being,
if you have never bought a domain or Microsoft 365 from GoDaddy,
they don't let you choose your org name.
They give you like net org and then a bunch of characters.
So you don't get like intelligent data on microsoft.com
or Scott dot on microsoft.com.
Even though you've deeded,
you're left with whatever that goofy domain org name
is that Microsoft gave you.
So you're even your SharePoint side is still like net org Ft,
8 360 9, 4 2 five.sharepoint.com.
There's still gonna be some of that go daddy weirdness left behind,
even though you own it.
So you may still want to go through the pain of migrating,
but this at least avoids that wholesale
cancellation from GoDaddy.
And it gives you the ability to like move your custom domain on your own
terms to go into Azure ad, remove it from one tenant, add it to another tenant,
do a bunch of that type of stuff because you've kind of grabbed the
management and ownership of that GoDaddy,
Microsoft 365 environment away from GoDaddy and taken it back where it should
be, where you actually own it and control everything you.
And I are were also chatting earlier about situations that might require you
to execute a tenant to tenant migration and where this might
not actually work for you.
Like it wouldn't be kind of the rose colored glasses path of, you know,
everything's gonna work out for me.
There still might be GS where you say I'm in the
go daddy ecosystem for M 365.
But to really fully extricate yourself,
you're gonna need to do a 10 to 10 migration,
which probably for most folks means going and buying some tooling just to make
sure that's kind of smoothed out and a little bit easier.
You don't want to go down that path on your own probably.
Yeah, exactly.
So if you're in that case where maybe you bought it from GoDaddy,
you don't want to go buy all the tooling and go through all of that.
I would at least consider going and doing this.
And if you stay in your net org Ft, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
At least you're in a better position than if you keep going through the admin
GoDaddy stuff because you'll gain some of that control back.
You'll be able to administer it better, manage users,
better add on different licenses, easier all of the things. Yeah.
Does this get any easier with the ability to change your
domain name for your, at least your SharePoint tendency?
You know what potentially there is still a laundry list
of things to be aware of.
If you're gonna change your SharePoint domain.
I would say that from what I've seen, most people that tend to buy from go,
daddy are like one to five, maybe 10 person companies.
I don't run into a whole lot of big orgs,
which probably makes it easier.
So you could potentially use that option to change your SharePoint URL.
Once you've detached from goad,
as long as that list of
requirements, when you change your SharePoint URL,
doesn't scare you away from it.
and I should go find that we'll put that it's.
Still a list.
But show notes. It is still a list. Uh, and it only changes it for SharePoint.
Caveat to bound with that one. Right?
So you're still gonna end up with,
you're never gonna be able to completely get rid of that net org thing.
That'll still be part of your default dot on Microsoft.
You can really only at this point in time,
change that portion of it for that SharePoint or that route SharePoint URL.
I think for most of it,
like SharePoints is still the biggest part of M 365 that you interact with.
Like when you go to your mailbox,
you're just going to outlook.office.com or you're going into
office.com. But then all of a sudden you want to go to your intranet or,
you know, your HR website or whatever happens to be your, your one drive.
Then you're in a, you're in a different place.
You don't want to go to my dash net org, blah, blah, blah kind of thing.
You wanna go to my dash company name.sharepoint.com to get to your OneDrive
and have all that smoothed out for you.
Yep, exactly. And I think this would definitely,
this at least would allow you to do that.
It might be something you would want to consider as opposed to a
migration, because that really is still the biggest point at surfaces itself.
If you're using a custom domain and custom logins and all that.
So it was interesting to find this.
I had never actually thought about going this route before to get off of
GoDaddy. And it, again, I did it within the last month.
I did it as part of a migration I deeded and then migrated,
but the whole de Federation process and taking back that,
taking it back from GoDaddy actually went really smooth and went really easily.
I would say, if you're gonna do this, go read the blog articles.
There's some interesting things in here too, that it talks about in terms of,
if you plan to re federate and you and I were discussing this on how accurate
this is,
and it does also provide you all those steps of make sure you do things
in this order and do these steps to make sure you derate in a way that doesn't
end up breaking things.
yeah. You don't wanna lock yourself out of your tendency and then, uh,
not be able to recover, recover any of it. Cause see,
you could put yourself in a place where you lack both yourself and your CSP out
and that wouldn't be good either.
No, that would definitely cause issues.
If you wanted to continue to use this tenant. Yeah.
Uh, the other thing is if you go and read that article,
I think it's coming from the lens of, uh, CSPs,
trying to get GoDaddy customers and bring them in.
So there's some mentions in there like, Hey,
here's how you come back into CSP land on our side and things that we have to
consider with buying you licenses and all that stuff.
Like just replace CSP with yourself and you can
do all those things in your own tendency. So you can absolutely,
you can do licensed procurement,
all that kind of stuff on your own and have that all done,
ready and sitting there and ready to go ahead of.
Time. Yeah. That is a good call out there.
Cause it does talk about once you de federate go to your CSP and buy licenses,
you don't need to do that. You can go to Microsoft and buy licenses directly.
So there are some areas there where absolutely do that. If you want to,
if you want a new CSP, I know a good one.
intent twin.
Win. It might bad be intelligent. I might be able to be a CSP for you.
Yeah. I see what you did.
There. Yeah, no, you like that self promotion.
Shameless self promotion. That's that was.
Shameless. That was absolutely shameless. Self-promotion so anywho.
Anything else? Uber UBI, keys,
MFA security GoDaddy,
tequila angel food take. Yep.
And I think we're pretty well sorted.
I'm gonna have to report back though on this angel food thing,
I'm gonna add it to my grocery list right now.
You are. I am very curious to hear how that tastes.
Angel food. You know, I'm gonna need limes too.
All right. You better go before it starts raining.
It's rough here. So, uh, you know, if we're all done with this part, um,
you know, the Florida thing, do you grow fruit trees at your.
House? We do not. Uh.
Well you should totally grow some fruit trees. Uh, we grew pineapples this year,
which was kind of fun really?
Yeah.
Except when I say we grew pineapples this year, we really,
we started growing pineapples two and a half years ago cuz it takes like two
years for a single pineapple to come through.
But then after that it produces fruit EV every single year.
So we got our first pineapple this year. We've also had a lime tree,
but I think my lime tree died in one of the,
one of the frosts that we had over the winter.
And it just didn't work out too good between coming inside and going outdoors.
So now to buy my limes at the grocery store and it's horrible, I don't get my,
my homemade limes anymore. I.
Am so sorry, Scott. This is why I don't grow fruit trees.
Do you wanna know my opinion on plants in Florida?
I have a very strong opinion on plants in Florida, cuz I grew up in Michigan.
I grew up up north. If a plant cannot survive a frost,
I don't want it because I shouldn't have to go out and cover my plants.
Every time it gets cold,
like plants should be Hardy enough to survive outdoors and come
back again the next season. And if they don't, I don't want them in my yard.
Call me harsh.
maybe I just don't enjoy trying to have a green
thumb, but that is my stance. If a frost kills a plant,
I'm gonna go find a different plant. That's more Hardy.
That's pretty harsh. I mean, I've got like the big leaf behind me here.
Like it's nice to have plants. You should bring some into your office.
Like what I'll I'll see if I can change you on this and,
and work with on the work with you the future. Yeah. But like.
Fake plants, food.
Food's nice. You should totally do. We had, you know,
somebody had discord posting about like, Hey I grow jalapenos. I do,
you know like basil Rosemary, tomatoes, all those kinds of things.
I think we're gonna try potatoes at some point. Like, eh, yeah. Like you can do.
It all my wife keeps saying, as the kids are getting older,
that she's gonna start planting and trying to grow some food outside.
So we will see maybe I'll have to convince her to do pineapple.
Although I think I'm the only one in our family that eats pineapple.
But I'm with that disc, that jalapeno looks good.
especially if you wrap it in bacon and stuff it with cream cheese and
throw it on the grill. Yes.
Yeah, absolutely. Oh.
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