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Welcome to episode 300
of the Microsoft cloud.

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It pro podcast recorded live
on September 16th, 2022.

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This is a show about
Microsoft 365 in Azure,

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from the perspective of
it pros and end users,

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where we discuss the topic or recent
news and how it relates to you. Wow.

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We made it to episode 300
to celebrate Scott and I

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kick off talking about air
fried tequila, angel food cake.

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Ask us next week about how it
actually tastes from there.

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We talk about recent news
around the Uber hack security

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and MFA,

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and how all of that relates to Uber
before spending some time talking about

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why you absolutely should
not buy Microsoft 365 from

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go daddy. But if you have how you
can free yourself from their grasp

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episode 300 to choose this episode 300. I.

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Did. <laugh> that's.

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That's why I opened up with talking about
tequila in the pre-show, but anyway,

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tequila.

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Let's let's so, okay.

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Let's redo the pre-show
to celebrate episode 300.

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We are talking about tequila shot
angel food cake is apparently your

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solution to all my woes.

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Yes.

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Celebrating this podcast episode.

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I know tos all in the news, very bad,
blah, blah, blah, doom, scrolling,

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all those kinds of things, but it's
super easy just to hop on and, you know,

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scroll, scroll away. So one of the
things I saw the other day on, you know,

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my version of my,

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for you page and to was a air fried

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tequila. So angel food
cake thing, I didn't,

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this was the thing I've never heard this.
So it's just tequila and lime juice.

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And then angel food cake, like cut up
into little bite size cubes. You know,

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you soak it,

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throw it in the air fryer for eight
minutes at turns through 50 Fahrenheit and

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you pull it out and pop
some powdered sugar on top.

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And Bob's your uncle like?
You're all good. You're eating a,

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a little air fry, English shot.

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I didn't even know this was a thing like
I've only ever seen these on TikTok and

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then Uhhuh <affirmative>, you know,

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just for posterity through it in the show
notes here <laugh> I had to go search

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around for it and yeah, fried
tequila shots are totally a thing.

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So if anybody wants to try these things
virtually with me and report back,

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I'm all in. I think this is what
I'm gonna try and do this weekend.

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I want to try them in person with you
because I don't have an air fryer and I

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don't have tequila.

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I have an air fryer and a deep
fryer. So we, we do it all.

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<Laugh> see. And I don't drink alcohol,
but if you're gonna air fry it,

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then it's all essentially
boiled, not really boiled.

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Does it fry off the alcohol then
essentially bakes off the alcohol?

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It, it evaporates. Yes.

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Evaporates the alcohol. That's the word
I was looking for, but it sounds like,

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so is it kinda like a caramelized angel
food cake then with powdered sugar?

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I.

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Think it'd be a crispy angel food cake
with a tequila slash lime flavor with

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powdered sugar flavor on
it. Yeah. Sour and sweet.

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Yeah. I'm not a big fan Aquila. And
I'm, I'm a little unsure about if I,

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the lime does lime help tequila
taste that much better again,

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me coming from my oblivion. Yes.

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Yes it does.

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Okay. So you need to mix the lime with
the tequila, even when you fry it.

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Yeah. Or you do your shot of tequila and
you know, you just suck down that lime.

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Or just suck down a lime. You'll.

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Be okay. I can help you figure all
this out. We'll get you there. Any who,

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you know, what really
makes you want to drink?

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Oh, I'm so confused. You know who
else is in the news? Oh, else.

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Drink <laugh> else.

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Is what were you gonna say?

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No, I was gonna say, you know,

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what else really makes you
wanna drink is trying to Def

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federate your domain,

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your Microsoft 365 domain from GoDaddy
and extricate yourself that does from

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goad land. I.

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Thought you were gonna say working
at Uber makes you wanna drink. It.

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Could, uh, yeah. Pour one
out for your friends at Uber.

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If you have anybody there,

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especially anybody on like their blue
teams or IR teams, things like that.

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The hack that was recently
announced it was today.

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I thought it was like last night, this
morning. Yeah. Doesn't sound too good.

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Turn your credit monitoring back
on. If you didn't have it, all that,

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all that fun stuff.

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Right? All that good stuff. I saw a
recent article that it sounds like,

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and Uber's been relatively quiet,

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which you don't blame 'em that maybe
the hacker still has complete control of

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all their cloud servers and everything.

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This could make an interesting
podcast in of itself.

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Just talking about the security
implications of things that you don't do,

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like putting admin credentials and
plain text in a PowerShell script.

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<Laugh>, you know, there's, I think
there's a bunch of interesting things.

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Like if you, from all accounts,

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what it looks like so far with the
Uber hack is it was an MFA Phish

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that they were able to get
in through. And <laugh>.

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So the user that was compromised
was being spammed with MFA

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requests and they were
getting so many of them that

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somebody reached out over WhatsApp and,

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and kind of just pretended to
be Uber it and said, really,

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the only way you can make
this go away is to log into

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your account and do this. And,

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and they were able to kind of
fish that credential and, and,

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and get in that way, you know,
like Fido keys are a thing.

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I know they haven't been as prevalent,

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but they do stop those kinds of attacks.

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<laugh> for like dead in their
tracks in, in the first place.

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It really doesn't matter at that point.

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So maybe this is yet another
public lesson that if you're not

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doing pH keys and you have the ability
to do it within your environment,

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you definitely want to go down that path.

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Maybe kind of sorta like you
probably don't want to be doing OTP

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either in-app or SMS or,
or those kinds of things.

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If you can avoid it like a
physical key is not a bad way.

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To go. Oh no, I wanna go talk about
God, daddy, but this is interesting.

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We may have to come back to this,

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cuz I also have questions about
phyto keys then, because you can get,

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for instance,

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UBI key UBI key sells a really tiny Fido
key that you just kind of plug in your

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laptop, but then people
plug it in and forget it.

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Doesn't this introduce another form of a

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security flaw in that the Fido key
is always right with your laptop.

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Like right now, rarely if I would
lose my laptop, leave it on a plane,

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whatever I might do, chances are
not gonna leave my phone with it.

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I guess even if you stole my backpack
by setting my backpack down in a coffee

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shop, chances are in my
phone is in my pocket.

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Somebody grabs my backpack and runs.

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My second MFA is still
separate from my device.

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But if you have a phyto key and it's
just always plugged into your laptop,

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it kind of defeats the
purpose. Doesn't it.

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A little bit. I, I mean, you
shouldn't always be plugged in there.

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There is that piece.

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Of it. I can only hear Ben's audio
<laugh> until he fixes Scott's audio,

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come join the membership site.

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And then you can hear both of our audios
live while we record and yell at me.

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When I forget to turn on
Scott's audio and discord.

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I keep coming from new terms
for you every week. This week,

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you were my audio engineer next week.
You might be the producer. I don't know.

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We'll see. But, but back
to the, the key thing,

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I think some of that is sometimes like
mitigated along the way. You know,

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I use like we have like secure
workstations at work and we use

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UBI keys for those, like they
auto disconnect, you know,

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you ha you do have to be very
intentional about saying like, okay,

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I'm gonna go ahead and pin in now
for this type of activity, what,

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whatever it happens to be,

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I'd rather live in that
world where you've at least

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mitigated potentially like
outside malicious actors versus

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somebody who potentially has
physical access to your device.

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Like somebody who could walk up to
my laptop while I was using it in an

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unsecured location and walk up to the
UBI key and tap it. And they knew my pin.

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There's a whole bunch of
mitigating factors there that
can kind of help you out.

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That is very true. So
speaking of UBI keys,

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I promised we were gonna get to go daddy.

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I had an interesting thing
with a UBI key. The other day,

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I had a client that I know uses UBI, keys,

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contact me and say, I'm a little worried
something's happened on my computer.

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It's randomly typing in
strings of text in sending them

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like teams messages. He
was sending out emails.

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He was sending out all kinds
of these random strings.

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And finally he sent me a video and sent
me one of 'em and I looked at it and I'm

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like, do you have your UBI key?

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Like just sitting there plugged
into your laptop somehow.

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I don't know if something was bumping
it. If it was cat that was bumping it.

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If the, the UBI key actually acted up,

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the UBI key actually acts like a keyboard.

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So if you plug into UBI key and you're
in notepad or teams or any of that,

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and you touch it,

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it'll throw in a random string of text
because of kind of how it works and

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actually do a carriage return at
the end. So if it's in a message,

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it will actually send that string.

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And his UBI key was just somehow
typing in string. After string,

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after string of text,
it was somewhat bizarre.

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Uh.

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Have you ever seen this?

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I've never run into that before.

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My UBI key does not type
text when I press it really.

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So here is I will do one in
discord in our live chat.

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So I just plugged in my UBI key.
Assuming this USB hub is plugged in,

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it's not doing it now. I don't
know if I can reach my other one.

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I'll have to show you what it
does, but I've seen this and I,

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it must be some configuration
with it. And I don't know.

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That was kind of, you know,

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search around in the background
while you were talking about this.

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So apparently it has to do with using U BT

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for OTP generation versus just doing

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like a T OTP or an OTP on top of it.

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Got, there you go. Some discord.

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<Laugh>, it's basically your
OTP, like coming through,

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so you should stop doing that <laugh>.

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So that, well, it changes
every time you do it.

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So was that like the six digit OTP code?

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
that's the way OT OTP is.

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Right for the 30 seconds.

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Yeah. They change all
the time too. So <laugh>.

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So that's like an encrypted OTP code, I.

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Guess. Yeah. With the, with the new
line character thrown at the end,

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just for like an extra, an
extra bump to make it fun.

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So when you're in your team message
or something like that, well.

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So there's my OTP code and discord
for like the next 15 seconds now,

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until it rolls over. But I don't
even know what that OTP code is for.

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Cause technically you can put
multiple OTP codes on it. Right?

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Uh, you can. Yeah.

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So how does it know what that OTP
code would account that's even for?

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I have no idea.

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that's a side topic of UBI
keys and pushing it and
random texts getting sent to

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Well, that's a new one for me. Never
run into that with my UBI key for the,

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the more, you know, I guess.

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Yes. So anywho. Okay.

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So back to now that we've talked about
UV keys and Uber and MFA and all the

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things,

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another topic kind of going sort
of related to this it's kinda

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identity login related is go daddy, 365,

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as some people term it or
buy Microsoft from go daddy,

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Microsoft 365 from GoDaddy. Do you
have thoughts on this Scott? Oh.

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No one should ever buy their
M the 365 tenant from GoDaddy.

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There's all sorts of

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weirdness that comes along the way there.

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And you're not just putting yourself
in a model where you're paying

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GoDaddy for your M 365 tenancy.

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You're giving up a ton of control
when it just comes to you,

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the management of your tenant
and the users within your

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tenant,

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and then the level of even
support that you're going

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to be able to get there.

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lots of folks would say,

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especially like in the SMB space
where I have my domains with

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GoDaddy, I don't think anybody should
have their domains with GoDaddy either,

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but that's another discussion,

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but you have your domains with
GoDaddy and it was nice and easy.

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And it was a quick way
for me to onboard to M

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365. I totally get all
of that, but yeah, you,

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you shouldn't do it. It's,

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it's a strategic partnership
between Microsoft and

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goad and you know,

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I think it benefits Microsoft
a little bit. I don't know.

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It might actually do more harm in the end,

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just with the folks who run
into issues along the way,

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but it certainly benefits
goad because they get to do I,

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the little bit of the CSP thing,

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and you don't potentially bring like
over the top services, but in just a,

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a worse way. So, you know,

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your first line of support is
gonna be go daddy's tech support.

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I don't know if anyone has ever
called in to go daddy tech support,

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but you don't want to have to call in to
go daddy tech support to get something

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fixed. Like basically
it's not gonna happen.

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It's not gonna get fixed and good luck
finding a forum or someplace else that

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has some type of official answer. But
that's where you're gonna have to go in,

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in a lot of cases, particularly
when it comes to like user issues,

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like password reset or
authentication, things like that,

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like you're gonna be going over to
the go daddy side of the house. First.

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There's also limitations to what you
can do when it comes to things like

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federated identity. You know, we were
just talking about the whole MFA thing.

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Two step two factor authentication.
You're gonna be pretty limited there.

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They used to do. I, I don't
know if they still do this.

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It's it's been a hot minute
since I've seen one of these.

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Do they still do the over
the top user management too?

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So when you try and do things
like reset a user password,

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you don't actually reset the
password in the M 365 portal.

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You're taken back to just
this crazy go daddy portal.

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And then it's super easy
to select the wrong user.

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Like you forget the user that you were
working with. Like things like that.

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It's, it's just it's it's not good.

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<Laugh> yeah. The whole thing is
bizarre. And this is one of the reasons,

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and let's be honest.

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We're gonna end up contacting GoDaddy
support a lot because what they do

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is when you get Microsoft
365 from goad, like you said,

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they're a CSP. So technically
you're buying it from GoDaddy go,

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daddy's buying it from Microsoft,
but not only do they do that,

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but to your point, they then have
like their own identity provider,

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some GoDaddy identity provider
that they federate with office

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365. So when you go to
like portal.office.com,

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you log in, or you go
to portal@office.com,

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you type in your username and you get
redirected to like a GoDaddy login

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screen,

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you type in your username password
to log to whatever GoDaddy I

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is using for their identity
provider. And they,

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hi hijack everything from
the admin screens to the

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user management screens,

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to even what menu items are available in

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like Azure ad, for instance,
messing with custom domains,

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you lose some ability there. Like,

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I don't know how GoDaddy
worked this deal. And frankly,

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I don't know why Microsoft allows
them to do this because to your point,

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I think it does hurt Microsoft. I think
it hurts. At least the experience.

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Maybe they get a bunch
of customers from it.

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But the user experience of Microsoft
365 through GoDaddy is absolutely

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horrible. And if you go to any
of the Microsoft documentation,

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how to do something,

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it doesn't work because
GoDaddy has like taken

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complete control of your office 365
tenant. I don't know how they do it,

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how Microsoft gave them
permission to do it.

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But it's absolutely bizarre.

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Yeah. <laugh> like you
said, it brings users. So.

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Don't please don't.

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Don't, you know,

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I wonder how much of it is just maybe
Microsoft doesn't even feel the pain of it

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because GoDaddy tends to be the
first line of support and you

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have to go that way because you
bought it from them kind of thing.

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So if a tree falls in the woods,
but nobody's there to hear it.

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Does it make a sound? It, I don't know.

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<Laugh> yeah. It's and I
have, I have never bought it.

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I will never tell anybody to buy it,

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but I have experienced it
way more times than I care to

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because I will get customers
that come in want help,

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never had 'em before new customer.
And I need help with my Microsoft 365.

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I go, they send me, maybe they set up
credentials for me, whatever it is.

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And it is, as soon as you type 'em in,
you see, it's go daddy. And I'm like,

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Ugh, not again. I'm like,
okay, first project,

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we're going to migrate you off
of go daddy into Microsoft 365.

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Sometimes they bite and they'll do that.

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Sometimes they wanna stick with go daddy,

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but I always try to get people. I'm like,
okay, I know this is gonna be painful.

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We may have SharePoint documents to
move. We may have emails to move,

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but we really should get you off of goad.

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And part of the problem
is, is like you said,

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they bought their domain. Usually what
happens is they started their company.

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They wanted a domain
name for their company.

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They went to GoDaddy and bought their
domain name, which I'm with you.

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I don't ever buy domain names from
GoDaddy anymore. I used to don't do it.

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I don't do it anymore.

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And then they want email and
GoDaddy like offers them office

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365, or they know they want office 365.

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And if they haven't done this before,
they're like, oh, well my domain type go,

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daddy. I should just get office 365
there, make it all nice and easy. Oh,

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it's not easy. It's not friendly it. Yeah,

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you should migrate it off.

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I don't care if you keep your domain
there just don't do Microsoft 365 there

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<laugh> I would migrate 'em
off. And part of the problem is,

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is getting that custom
domain out because go,

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daddy grabs it and they hold
onto it for all their worth.

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So up until recently, it was
always a phone call to go daddy.

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And you had to like contact
their support and say, Hey,

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I want to take this custom domain
out. I want to get rid of this.

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Can you, they do like a
cease and desist internally.

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When you talk to their tech support,

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it's like a cease and desist
on your custom domain.

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I don't even know what that means
or why they would have to do that.

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But then you could go at it to another
tenant and start migrating stuff.

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The problem is is if you do it that way,

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when you do that cease and desist
thing and release the custom domain,

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they just delete your whole tenant.

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Your whole tenant goes away and
you don't have a way to access it.

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So you can't do any type of partial
migration or anything like that.

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It's just, it's super bizarre.
But I found a new way to do this.

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Scott just like within
the last month. Yeah.

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Tell.

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Me more.

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You can actually use
PowerShell and de federate

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go daddy from your office 365 tenant.

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So we'll put this link in the
show notes. This is not my blog.

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It's T 365. It's Microsoft.

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It's a Microsoft blog for MSPs,

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but if you have purchased
GoDaddy or purchased Microsoft

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365 from GoDaddy,

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you can still log into PowerShell and use

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PowerShell to connect to.

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They use the MSL commands. I
think you still have to use these.

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If I remember right from
when I looked and go in and

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detach your Microsoft 365 tenant

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from your go daddy environment.

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So that it goes back to just
the normal Microsoft 365 login.

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There's a lot of steps to do here.

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There's some things you
wanna be careful of,

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especially when it comes to
completely canceling go daddy,

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because while this Def
federates your domain,

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you're still gonna end up
paying GoDaddy for all of it.

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So you have to go cancel
your go daddy subscription,

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but you wanna make sure you've removed
GoDaddy as a delegated admin and partner.

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Otherwise, when you cancel your
subscription, they'll still have rights,

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even though you've deeded
to go delete your Microsoft

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365 account and licenses and all that.

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So the gist of this article is you
go in with PowerShell de federate,

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go buy licenses at this point
in time because it's been deeded

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buy 'em straight from Microsoft,
buy 'em from another CSP,

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buy 'em from whoever you want to get
everybody licensed set up with these

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other licenses, go into the
partner section of office 365,

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delete GoDaddy as a reseller,

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delegated admin, all of this stuff,

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and then just go cancel your GoDaddy
subscription. At this point in time,

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you'll own your Microsoft 365 tenant.

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You'll still have all the licenses you
haven't bought from whoever you want to.

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And while this originally
came from GoDaddy,

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they no longer have any
access to do anything with it,

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hijack anything or change anything
in it. It's kind of a nifty little.

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Solution for sure. You
know, it's interesting.

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<laugh> kind of the level of extra
steps you have to go through beyond just

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saying like, Hey, I,

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I'm going to remove that
Federation re remove that

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relationship between Microsoft, your,

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your Microsoft tendency and
kind of the default IDP,

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and then whatever identity provider
GoDaddy's using and just all the things

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that you need to do there when it comes
to like user management and password

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resets. And, you know,

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that's potentially pretty
painful depending on the
number of users you have and,

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and everything else, cuz it's a big bang
approach. You gotta do it all at once.

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And then you've gotta reconfigure client
tooling along the way. So, you know,

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I change your password in M 365,

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then you're gonna have to re-log it back
into your mailbox. That kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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So I would say there, like you said,
there's still a lot of steps. Honestly.

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I would probably still migrate away.

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This makes the migration
easier and reason being,

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if you have never bought a domain
or Microsoft 365 from GoDaddy,

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they don't let you choose your org name.

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They give you like net org and
then a bunch of characters.

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So you don't get like
intelligent data on microsoft.com

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or Scott dot on microsoft.com.

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Even though you've deeded,

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you're left with whatever
that goofy domain org name

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is that Microsoft gave you.

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So you're even your SharePoint
side is still like net org Ft,

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8 360 9, 4 2 five.sharepoint.com.

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There's still gonna be some of that
go daddy weirdness left behind,

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even though you own it.

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So you may still want to go
through the pain of migrating,

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but this at least avoids that wholesale

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cancellation from GoDaddy.

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And it gives you the ability to like
move your custom domain on your own

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terms to go into Azure ad, remove it from
one tenant, add it to another tenant,

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do a bunch of that type of stuff
because you've kind of grabbed the

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management and ownership of that GoDaddy,

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Microsoft 365 environment away from
GoDaddy and taken it back where it should

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be, where you actually own it
and control everything you.

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And I are were also chatting earlier
about situations that might require you

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to execute a tenant to tenant
migration and where this might

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not actually work for you.

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Like it wouldn't be kind of the rose
colored glasses path of, you know,

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everything's gonna work out for me.

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There still might be GS
where you say I'm in the

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go daddy ecosystem for M 365.

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But to really fully extricate yourself,

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you're gonna need to do
a 10 to 10 migration,

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which probably for most folks means going
and buying some tooling just to make

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sure that's kind of smoothed
out and a little bit easier.

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You don't want to go down that
path on your own probably.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So if you're in that case where
maybe you bought it from GoDaddy,

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you don't want to go buy all the
tooling and go through all of that.

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I would at least consider
going and doing this.

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And if you stay in your net org
Ft, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

453
00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:25,800
At least you're in a better position
than if you keep going through the admin

454
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,480
GoDaddy stuff because you'll
gain some of that control back.

455
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960
You'll be able to administer
it better, manage users,

456
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,720
better add on different licenses,
easier all of the things. Yeah.

457
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,120
Does this get any easier with
the ability to change your

458
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:45,360
domain name for your, at least
your SharePoint tendency?

459
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:50,760
You know what potentially
there is still a laundry list

460
00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:55,160
of things to be aware of.

461
00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:57,600
If you're gonna change
your SharePoint domain.

462
00:26:58,110 --> 00:27:02,080
I would say that from what I've seen,
most people that tend to buy from go,

463
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,400
daddy are like one to five,
maybe 10 person companies.

464
00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:09,280
I don't run into a whole lot of big orgs,

465
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760
which probably makes it easier.

466
00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:16,720
So you could potentially use that
option to change your SharePoint URL.

467
00:27:16,990 --> 00:27:19,720
Once you've detached from goad,

468
00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:24,400
as long as that list of

469
00:27:24,820 --> 00:27:27,120
requirements, when you
change your SharePoint URL,

470
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,680
doesn't scare you away from it.

471
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,480
<laugh> and I should go find
that we'll put that it's.

472
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:31,940
Still a list.

473
00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:36,840
But show notes. It is still a list. Uh,
and it only changes it for SharePoint.

474
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,720
Caveat to bound with that one. Right?

475
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,160
So you're still gonna end up with,

476
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:44,000
you're never gonna be able to completely
get rid of that net org thing.

477
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:47,440
That'll still be part of your
default dot on Microsoft.

478
00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:50,960
You can really only at this point in time,

479
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:55,840
change that portion of it for that
SharePoint or that route SharePoint URL.

480
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:57,280
I think for most of it,

481
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,800
like SharePoints is still the biggest
part of M 365 that you interact with.

482
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Like when you go to your mailbox,

483
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,880
you're just going to
outlook.office.com or you're going into

484
00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:11,560
office.com. But then all of a sudden
you want to go to your intranet or,

485
00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:15,680
you know, your HR website or whatever
happens to be your, your one drive.

486
00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:18,320
Then you're in a, you're
in a different place.

487
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,880
You don't want to go to my dash net
org, blah, blah, blah kind of thing.

488
00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:26,800
You wanna go to my dash
company name.sharepoint.com
to get to your OneDrive

489
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480
and have all that smoothed out for you.

490
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080
Yep, exactly. And I think
this would definitely,

491
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:33,240
this at least would allow you to do that.

492
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,920
It might be something you would
want to consider as opposed to a

493
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,920
migration, because that really is still
the biggest point at surfaces itself.

494
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:45,120
If you're using a custom domain
and custom logins and all that.

495
00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:48,120
So it was interesting to find this.

496
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,120
I had never actually thought about
going this route before to get off of

497
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,680
GoDaddy. And it, again, I
did it within the last month.

498
00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:59,280
I did it as part of a migration
I deeded and then migrated,

499
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:04,400
but the whole de Federation
process and taking back that,

500
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:09,560
taking it back from GoDaddy actually went
really smooth and went really easily.

501
00:29:10,030 --> 00:29:12,480
I would say, if you're gonna do
this, go read the blog articles.

502
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200
There's some interesting things in here
too, that it talks about in terms of,

503
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,000
if you plan to re federate and you and
I were discussing this on how accurate

504
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,440
this is,

505
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,440
and it does also provide you all
those steps of make sure you do things

506
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,880
in this order and do these steps to make
sure you derate in a way that doesn't

507
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,440
end up breaking things.

508
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,680
<Laugh> yeah. You don't
wanna lock yourself out of
your tendency and then, uh,

509
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,840
not be able to recover,
recover any of it. Cause see,

510
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,440
you could put yourself in a place where
you lack both yourself and your CSP out

511
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:46,000
and that wouldn't be good either.

512
00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:49,600
No, that would definitely cause issues.

513
00:29:49,690 --> 00:29:52,200
If you wanted to continue
to use this tenant. Yeah.

514
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,040
Uh, the other thing is if
you go and read that article,

515
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,360
I think it's coming from
the lens of, uh, CSPs,

516
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,440
trying to get GoDaddy
customers and bring them in.

517
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,000
So there's some mentions
in there like, Hey,

518
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,480
here's how you come back into CSP land
on our side and things that we have to

519
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440
consider with buying you
licenses and all that stuff.

520
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Like just replace CSP
with yourself and you can

521
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,600
do all those things in your own
tendency. So you can absolutely,

522
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,360
you can do licensed procurement,

523
00:30:21,740 --> 00:30:25,000
all that kind of stuff on your
own and have that all done,

524
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,000
ready and sitting there
and ready to go ahead of.

525
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Time. Yeah. That is a good call out there.

526
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,080
Cause it does talk about once you de
federate go to your CSP and buy licenses,

527
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,360
you don't need to do that. You can go
to Microsoft and buy licenses directly.

528
00:30:37,770 --> 00:30:42,360
So there are some areas there where
absolutely do that. If you want to,

529
00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:44,840
if you want a new CSP, I know a good one.

530
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080
<Laugh> intent twin.

531
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Win. It might bad be intelligent. I
might be able to be a CSP for you.

532
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Yeah. I see what you did.

533
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,760
There. Yeah, no, you
like that self promotion.

534
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Shameless self promotion. That's that was.

535
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,840
Shameless. That was absolutely
shameless. Self-promotion so anywho.

536
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,840
Anything else? Uber UBI, keys,

537
00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:10,160
MFA security GoDaddy,

538
00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:13,640
tequila angel food take. Yep.

539
00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:15,640
And I think we're pretty well sorted.

540
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,200
I'm gonna have to report back
though on this angel food thing,

541
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,520
I'm gonna add it to my
grocery list right now.

542
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,640
You are. I am very curious
to hear how that tastes.

543
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,920
Angel food. You know,
I'm gonna need limes too.

544
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640
All right. You better go
before it starts raining.

545
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480
It's rough here. So, uh, you know,
if we're all done with this part, um,

546
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:36,600
you know, the Florida thing, do
you grow fruit trees at your.

547
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,840
House? We do not. Uh.

548
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,880
Well you should totally grow some fruit
trees. Uh, we grew pineapples this year,

549
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,560
which was kind of fun really?

550
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:44,080
Yeah.

551
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,200
Except when I say we grew
pineapples this year, we really,

552
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,080
we started growing pineapples two and
a half years ago cuz it takes like two

553
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560
years for a single
pineapple to come through.

554
00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:57,320
But then after that it produces
fruit EV every single year.

555
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,800
So we got our first pineapple this
year. We've also had a lime tree,

556
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:04,280
but I think my lime
tree died in one of the,

557
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,400
one of the frosts that
we had over the winter.

558
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:11,560
And it just didn't work out too good
between coming inside and going outdoors.

559
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,760
So now to buy my limes at the grocery
store and it's horrible, I don't get my,

560
00:32:15,970 --> 00:32:17,560
my homemade limes anymore. I.

561
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,480
Am so sorry, Scott. This is
why I don't grow fruit trees.

562
00:32:20,850 --> 00:32:24,920
Do you wanna know my opinion
on plants in Florida?

563
00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:29,560
I have a very strong opinion on plants
in Florida, cuz I grew up in Michigan.

564
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:33,920
I grew up up north. If a
plant cannot survive a frost,

565
00:32:34,430 --> 00:32:37,480
I don't want it because I shouldn't
have to go out and cover my plants.

566
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,480
Every time it gets cold,

567
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,480
like plants should be Hardy enough
to survive outdoors and come

568
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,600
back again the next season. And if they
don't, I don't want them in my yard.

569
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:49,160
Call me harsh.

570
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,400
<laugh> maybe I just don't
enjoy trying to have a green

571
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,840
thumb, but that is my stance.
If a frost kills a plant,

572
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,880
I'm gonna go find a different
plant. That's more Hardy.

573
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,280
That's pretty harsh. I mean, I've
got like the big leaf behind me here.

574
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Like it's nice to have plants. You
should bring some into your office.

575
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Like what I'll I'll see if I
can change you on this and,

576
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,040
and work with on the work with
you the future. Yeah. But like.

577
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Fake plants, food.

578
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,640
Food's nice. You should
totally do. We had, you know,

579
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880
somebody had discord posting about
like, Hey I grow jalapenos. I do,

580
00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:25,200
you know like basil Rosemary,
tomatoes, all those kinds of things.

581
00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:29,600
I think we're gonna try potatoes at some
point. Like, eh, yeah. Like you can do.

582
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,880
It all my wife keeps saying,
as the kids are getting older,

583
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,080
that she's gonna start planting and
trying to grow some food outside.

584
00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:40,040
So we will see maybe I'll have
to convince her to do pineapple.

585
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,840
Although I think I'm the only one
in our family that eats pineapple.

586
00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:47,880
But I'm with that disc,
that jalapeno looks good.

587
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,880
<laugh> especially if you wrap it in
bacon and stuff it with cream cheese and

588
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,080
throw it on the grill. Yes.

589
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Yeah, absolutely. Oh.

590
00:33:57,390 --> 00:34:00,880
This is gonna devolve
into a foodie podcast.

591
00:34:01,050 --> 00:34:04,080
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592
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,840
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593
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,880
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594
00:34:09,010 --> 00:34:12,840
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595
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596
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597
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:22,440
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598
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599
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