1 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:05,839 Welcome to episode 417 2 00:00:05,839 --> 00:00:08,960 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast recorded 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,539 live on 12/10/2025. 4 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:14,000 This is a show about Microsoft three sixty 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,114 five and Azure from the perspective of IT 6 00:00:16,114 --> 00:00:18,195 pros and end users, where we discuss a 7 00:00:18,195 --> 00:00:20,515 topic or recent news and how it relates 8 00:00:20,515 --> 00:00:23,074 to you. Don't worry. I haven't kicked Scott 9 00:00:23,074 --> 00:00:25,094 off the show. He'll be back on eventually. 10 00:00:25,314 --> 00:00:28,035 But today, you have been joined by Jay 11 00:00:28,035 --> 00:00:30,809 Leesk once more. We just wrapped up the 12 00:00:30,809 --> 00:00:33,850 Workplace Ninjas US Conference, where we presented two 13 00:00:33,850 --> 00:00:36,489 sessions, one on zero trust in Microsoft three 14 00:00:36,489 --> 00:00:38,409 sixty five and the other one on conditional 15 00:00:38,409 --> 00:00:41,369 access. Jay and I both thoroughly enjoyed the 16 00:00:41,369 --> 00:00:43,435 conference, so we decided to sit sit down 17 00:00:43,435 --> 00:00:45,054 and chat for a bit about the conference, 18 00:00:45,114 --> 00:00:47,195 our experience, and just a little bit about 19 00:00:47,195 --> 00:00:48,575 the sessions we presented. 20 00:00:50,395 --> 00:00:52,554 Welcome to the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro podcast 21 00:00:52,554 --> 00:00:54,075 where I have no idea which episode this 22 00:00:54,075 --> 00:00:56,875 will be because I'm on interview number 23 00:00:57,510 --> 00:01:00,649 interview conversation. Not really interview. Conversation number 24 00:01:01,109 --> 00:01:04,810 something. Five, six. Let's call it follow-up to 25 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:08,230 episode 400. 410. You're very proud of episode 26 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:10,165 410, aren't you? I am. For those of 27 00:01:10,165 --> 00:01:12,405 you that don't recognize the voice, Jay is 28 00:01:12,405 --> 00:01:14,665 back without Joy, which means hopefully. 29 00:01:15,284 --> 00:01:16,965 Aw. I'm like I don't mean to be 30 00:01:16,965 --> 00:01:19,944 without Joy. Like, I'm happy. You are happy 31 00:01:20,805 --> 00:01:22,504 without Joy Apple. 32 00:01:22,939 --> 00:01:24,079 Should we clarify? 33 00:01:24,459 --> 00:01:27,100 Good afternoon, everybody. This is Jay Leesk. It's 34 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:28,799 a pleasure to speak with you all again. 35 00:01:28,859 --> 00:01:30,459 Has it has been a while since episode 36 00:01:30,459 --> 00:01:32,780 four ten, but No. I well, it might 37 00:01:32,780 --> 00:01:34,140 be by the time this comes out, but 38 00:01:34,140 --> 00:01:35,280 it's only 04:16 39 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:37,145 is gonna just came out or came out 40 00:01:37,145 --> 00:01:39,704 tomorrow. Yeah. There's one coming out tomorrow. I 41 00:01:39,704 --> 00:01:40,765 realized Fantastic. 42 00:01:41,305 --> 00:01:42,825 To come out tomorrow? I realized I have 43 00:01:42,825 --> 00:01:44,424 one coming out tomorrow that I need to, 44 00:01:44,424 --> 00:01:45,405 like, actually 45 00:01:45,784 --> 00:01:48,265 do stuff for. Yeah. Because it's Wednesday. We 46 00:01:48,265 --> 00:01:50,505 should probably, like, get into the conversation before 47 00:01:50,505 --> 00:01:51,939 we lose your listeners. What do you wanna 48 00:01:51,939 --> 00:01:53,939 talk about today? If this episode is after 49 00:01:53,939 --> 00:01:55,299 the one I just did with Kat, the 50 00:01:55,299 --> 00:01:56,599 listeners may all be gone. 51 00:01:58,099 --> 00:02:00,180 Oh, that's beautiful. Yes. I just feel joy. 52 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:02,579 Somehow, we ended up on recording podcasts in 53 00:02:02,579 --> 00:02:04,900 jail with Kat. Yeah. I don't know that 54 00:02:04,900 --> 00:02:07,415 we should strive to lose them even more. 55 00:02:07,415 --> 00:02:09,014 Well, to be clear with by what you 56 00:02:09,014 --> 00:02:10,854 mean there, you ended up talking about what 57 00:02:10,854 --> 00:02:12,615 it would be like to record a podcast 58 00:02:12,615 --> 00:02:14,694 in jail. Yep. You didn't actually record a 59 00:02:14,694 --> 00:02:17,335 podcast in jail. Okay. Okay. And are we 60 00:02:17,335 --> 00:02:19,340 talking about, like, the m three sixty five 61 00:02:19,340 --> 00:02:21,259 jail? Like, is this a Is there an 62 00:02:21,259 --> 00:02:23,099 m three sixty five jail? There really I 63 00:02:23,099 --> 00:02:25,900 mean, maybe something in some report in Sentinel 64 00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:27,259 of some sort? I feel like there's an 65 00:02:27,259 --> 00:02:30,139 MVP jail. There is there? I don't know. 66 00:02:30,139 --> 00:02:32,000 I've said I think there's an MVP blacklist. 67 00:02:32,139 --> 00:02:33,805 I'm gonna get in trouble. Do you wanna 68 00:02:33,805 --> 00:02:35,745 start over? No. 69 00:02:36,125 --> 00:02:37,824 Sorry. Just ignore that. 70 00:02:38,205 --> 00:02:39,485 So it's a pleasure to be speaking with 71 00:02:39,485 --> 00:02:41,965 you. We're at Workplace Ninjas US here in 72 00:02:41,965 --> 00:02:45,905 Dallas, Texas. Today is, what, the December 7? 73 00:02:45,965 --> 00:02:48,790 Six You're off by, like, three days. I'm 74 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:49,610 a fix my 75 00:02:50,069 --> 00:02:52,490 watch. This my watch says it's the seventh. 76 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:56,550 And now we know why Jay hasn't been 77 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:58,389 showing up on time. He has his dates 78 00:02:58,389 --> 00:03:02,550 and times all confused. Hey. It's +1, 234550 79 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:04,555 450. What? 450. 80 00:03:04,615 --> 00:03:07,175 Yes. Yes. 450. Yeah. My bad. On the 81 00:03:07,175 --> 00:03:09,495 December 10. Right. Right. Right. At the very 82 00:03:09,495 --> 00:03:11,735 end of Workplace Ninjas. Yeah. Which was a 83 00:03:11,735 --> 00:03:14,055 really great conference. It was. And next year, 84 00:03:14,055 --> 00:03:16,215 I have permission from John to say this 85 00:03:16,215 --> 00:03:18,455 because he's announcing it in the keynote or 86 00:03:18,455 --> 00:03:21,479 later tonight Okay. That 2027 87 00:03:21,539 --> 00:03:23,079 is at Scott's. 88 00:03:23,379 --> 00:03:25,219 I think that's what he said, Scott's in 89 00:03:25,219 --> 00:03:28,439 Scottsdale, Arizona. Like Originally named for Scottsdale 90 00:03:28,819 --> 00:03:30,750 the February 91 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:32,439 2027. 92 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:35,055 Yes. Very excited to hear about that. Fourteen 93 00:03:35,055 --> 00:03:37,455 months from now. Yeah. I'm not necessarily excited 94 00:03:37,455 --> 00:03:40,014 to hear about Scottsdale. Although, the other people 95 00:03:40,014 --> 00:03:42,254 involved are all excited about Scottsdale. I've never 96 00:03:42,254 --> 00:03:44,735 been to Scottsdale. Acknowledging that I have never 97 00:03:44,735 --> 00:03:46,735 been to Scottsdale. I just also never Isn't 98 00:03:46,735 --> 00:03:48,275 there a golf course in Scottsdale? 99 00:03:48,889 --> 00:03:50,810 Sure. I think there's lots of golf courses. 100 00:03:50,810 --> 00:03:52,569 I thought there was a PGA Tour golf 101 00:03:52,569 --> 00:03:54,650 course in Scottsdale. There could be. I don't 102 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:57,689 golf particularly much, so it's not a Wonder 103 00:03:57,689 --> 00:03:59,310 if there's ninjas in Scottsdale. 104 00:03:59,930 --> 00:04:01,150 There were ninjas here. 105 00:04:01,449 --> 00:04:03,530 There were. I had a conversation with them 106 00:04:03,530 --> 00:04:04,430 as a former 107 00:04:05,155 --> 00:04:07,555 taekwondo student, and I may go back to 108 00:04:07,555 --> 00:04:08,775 it. I was curious 109 00:04:09,074 --> 00:04:11,474 what form of martial arts they studied, and 110 00:04:11,474 --> 00:04:13,715 they just started listing things off. And I'm 111 00:04:13,715 --> 00:04:15,314 like, okay. Well, I will never be a 112 00:04:15,314 --> 00:04:17,759 ninja if that's the requirement list. I could 113 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:19,600 never do what they did. I saw I 114 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,600 could not see them because of the way 115 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,360 the layout was. Yeah. That was a little 116 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,600 awkward. Video of it. Mhmm. Yeah. I'm never 117 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,120 gonna be a ninja just based on that 118 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,040 video. Yeah. But should we just talk about 119 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,045 the should we do, like, a conference debrief? 120 00:04:31,045 --> 00:04:32,938 Let's do a conference debrief. I think it 121 00:04:32,938 --> 00:04:34,884 is. This out sooner than later than if 122 00:04:34,884 --> 00:04:36,085 we're gonna do a conference. That's true. I 123 00:04:36,085 --> 00:04:38,324 might flip this one. Maybe this one will 124 00:04:38,324 --> 00:04:41,205 come out Episode four seventeen. Or I might 125 00:04:41,205 --> 00:04:43,785 do this one tomorrow. I have time. Well, 126 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:45,490 if the other one might already be added 127 00:04:45,490 --> 00:04:46,770 in. This one may have to come out 128 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:47,970 in a couple weeks or maybe even a 129 00:04:47,970 --> 00:04:49,410 bonus one. I have enough interviews. I may 130 00:04:49,410 --> 00:04:51,889 do a bonus one. Okay. So I'm curious. 131 00:04:51,889 --> 00:04:53,970 I told this to Kat. I'm curious your 132 00:04:53,970 --> 00:04:55,350 thoughts. I believe 133 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:57,314 I don't know a lot of people here. 134 00:04:57,314 --> 00:04:59,735 Okay. So I'm a relatively new security MVP. 135 00:04:59,795 --> 00:05:02,935 I come as people Are you security MVP? 136 00:05:03,154 --> 00:05:04,675 Yeah. I knew you were an MVP. I 137 00:05:04,675 --> 00:05:06,675 didn't realize you were security. Microsoft three sixty 138 00:05:06,675 --> 00:05:08,295 five and security. Congratulations. 139 00:05:08,834 --> 00:05:10,595 Round of applause. Sorry. Editor, please put a 140 00:05:10,595 --> 00:05:12,055 round of applause in. Okay. 141 00:05:12,509 --> 00:05:14,349 But I started as m three sixty five 142 00:05:14,349 --> 00:05:16,449 in Teams. Yeah. My background is all SharePoint. 143 00:05:16,589 --> 00:05:18,430 Right. I know way more people on the 144 00:05:18,430 --> 00:05:19,870 modern work side of things than I do 145 00:05:19,870 --> 00:05:21,949 security. Like, this group of people are all 146 00:05:21,949 --> 00:05:24,029 new to me. Yeah. Me too. That being 147 00:05:24,029 --> 00:05:25,250 said, without 148 00:05:25,704 --> 00:05:27,865 knowing too many people here, like, I know 149 00:05:27,865 --> 00:05:31,564 you and Kat and Lindsay Yep. And Mona 150 00:05:32,024 --> 00:05:34,264 were some of the people here. And this 151 00:05:34,264 --> 00:05:36,904 is one of the most fun times I've 152 00:05:36,904 --> 00:05:38,044 had at a conference. 153 00:05:38,389 --> 00:05:39,750 Yes. And I think one of the things 154 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,670 that was really interesting about it so day 155 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:43,930 one of the conference or the preshow day 156 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:46,310 was a hackathon, which none of us had 157 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:49,350 any information on going into. No. But we 158 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:51,375 were on the same team with Kat Yep. 159 00:05:51,615 --> 00:05:53,855 And Kat of the episode of the future, 160 00:05:53,855 --> 00:05:54,355 apparently. 161 00:05:54,975 --> 00:05:57,214 And as we sat down and John explained 162 00:05:57,214 --> 00:05:59,295 the rules to us, we had no idea 163 00:05:59,295 --> 00:06:01,214 of what the heck was going to be. 164 00:06:01,214 --> 00:06:03,935 And it was really cool to walk into 165 00:06:03,935 --> 00:06:06,459 what I was thinking was a security minded 166 00:06:06,459 --> 00:06:06,959 conference 167 00:06:07,419 --> 00:06:10,079 and being encouraged for the hackathon to build 168 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:12,620 a solution, whether it be an agent or 169 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:15,120 an app or a website or whatever, 170 00:06:15,660 --> 00:06:17,279 that helped to encourage 171 00:06:18,024 --> 00:06:20,524 DE and I practices across your organization. 172 00:06:20,904 --> 00:06:22,845 And that was pretty much the only rule 173 00:06:22,985 --> 00:06:25,144 of, like, the goals that is. It wasn't 174 00:06:25,144 --> 00:06:26,504 the only rule. It was the only goal. 175 00:06:26,504 --> 00:06:28,985 Right. And the cool part was so we 176 00:06:28,985 --> 00:06:31,310 had five teams. I'm explaining this to the 177 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:33,229 audience, not you. Because if I'm explaining this 178 00:06:33,229 --> 00:06:35,069 to you, that's awkward. No. Explain it to 179 00:06:35,069 --> 00:06:36,750 the audience for me. So there were five 180 00:06:36,750 --> 00:06:37,250 teams 181 00:06:37,629 --> 00:06:38,129 of 182 00:06:38,509 --> 00:06:39,009 primarily 183 00:06:39,310 --> 00:06:42,129 speakers with, I guess, one or two attendees 184 00:06:42,189 --> 00:06:43,754 per group. And then 185 00:06:44,134 --> 00:06:46,875 the rest of the people in the hackathon 186 00:06:47,175 --> 00:06:49,735 were just attendees of the conference watching us 187 00:06:49,735 --> 00:06:52,875 like cattle on a cattle drive Yes. Which, 188 00:06:52,935 --> 00:06:55,254 I guess, as I think about it, was 189 00:06:55,254 --> 00:06:56,535 a good way for them to get to 190 00:06:56,535 --> 00:06:58,620 know us a little bit, which is cool. 191 00:06:58,860 --> 00:07:00,459 It was. And I would be interested to 192 00:07:00,459 --> 00:07:03,019 hear what the attendees thought. And If only 193 00:07:03,019 --> 00:07:04,000 there was a mechanism 194 00:07:04,459 --> 00:07:06,779 with which you could find that information. Well, 195 00:07:06,779 --> 00:07:08,699 but not all the attendees were there. Right? 196 00:07:08,699 --> 00:07:10,060 Right. It was kind of a pre day. 197 00:07:10,060 --> 00:07:11,819 So I don't know. May what? There were 198 00:07:11,819 --> 00:07:12,319 maybe 199 00:07:12,824 --> 00:07:13,805 30 ish 200 00:07:14,105 --> 00:07:16,824 attendees there? Maybe a few more, 40? Maybe. 201 00:07:16,824 --> 00:07:19,144 Yeah. I had no concept of counting. Somewhere 202 00:07:19,144 --> 00:07:20,824 in there. But I would say not only 203 00:07:21,064 --> 00:07:22,665 and it wasn't that they were just watching 204 00:07:22,665 --> 00:07:25,139 us. Like, it was in a bar Yeah. 205 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:28,660 With drinks and food. Yes. We started we. 206 00:07:28,660 --> 00:07:31,460 I drink Coke. Other people started drinking. I 207 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:33,379 won't name any names. Mhmm. At, like, 9AM 208 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:35,166 Certainly not the people sitting at the table. 209 00:07:35,353 --> 00:07:38,025 It started at 10AM. Yeah. Like, we started 210 00:07:38,025 --> 00:07:39,384 drinking and eating, like, we I had a 211 00:07:39,384 --> 00:07:42,105 breakfast beer. That's valid. And drinking a breakfast 212 00:07:42,105 --> 00:07:44,925 beer at 10AM. Yep. Doing this hackathon. 213 00:07:46,025 --> 00:07:48,345 The one that John had so John organized 214 00:07:48,345 --> 00:07:50,345 this, had, like, a wheel that you could 215 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:53,029 spin to punish teams Yes. Or help teams. 216 00:07:53,169 --> 00:07:54,610 Yeah. The one I think I wish you 217 00:07:54,610 --> 00:07:56,289 would have done more to your point about 218 00:07:56,449 --> 00:07:58,209 one of them was just, like, an interview 219 00:07:58,209 --> 00:08:00,769 question or ask the speaker a question. I 220 00:08:00,769 --> 00:08:02,949 think it would have been cool to do 221 00:08:03,329 --> 00:08:04,930 have more of those where the speakers could 222 00:08:04,930 --> 00:08:07,089 have introduced themselves to the attendees a little 223 00:08:07,089 --> 00:08:08,964 bit more. Yeah. He made me get up 224 00:08:09,104 --> 00:08:11,664 and tell a thing about me with no 225 00:08:11,664 --> 00:08:14,224 background. He's like, tell the people something interesting 226 00:08:14,224 --> 00:08:16,384 about you. I'm like, okay. But, no, it 227 00:08:16,384 --> 00:08:18,305 was cool. It was like a pre party 228 00:08:18,384 --> 00:08:21,730 Yeah. To the actual conference. It did give 229 00:08:21,730 --> 00:08:22,850 us a way to get to know each 230 00:08:22,850 --> 00:08:25,089 other, meet some attendees, meet some of the 231 00:08:25,089 --> 00:08:27,410 other people before the conference started. So then 232 00:08:27,410 --> 00:08:28,930 you come into the conference on day one, 233 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:31,730 and you're you already know people Yeah. Because 234 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:35,110 of just this Hangout hackathon day beforehand. Yes. 235 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:35,830 Now 236 00:08:36,294 --> 00:08:38,315 then the conference kicked off 237 00:08:38,695 --> 00:08:41,215 there. So it's a two day conference after 238 00:08:41,215 --> 00:08:41,915 the hackathon 239 00:08:42,455 --> 00:08:45,575 running, I think, about five concurrent sessions at 240 00:08:45,575 --> 00:08:48,695 a time Yep. Four time blocks per day. 241 00:08:48,695 --> 00:08:50,960 Plus today, there was an MSP track, which 242 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 I thought was really clever because a lot 243 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,720 of the attendees at conferences like this, you're 244 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,399 either you some of you work for a 245 00:08:58,399 --> 00:08:58,899 company 246 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:00,960 to to do your own security or your 247 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,279 own m three sixty five management, and then 248 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:06,875 others, there's a large practice of MSP and 249 00:09:06,875 --> 00:09:07,375 MSSPs 250 00:09:08,074 --> 00:09:10,794 that are running this technology on behalf of 251 00:09:10,794 --> 00:09:12,574 another org. And so it's 252 00:09:12,875 --> 00:09:15,595 really interesting to see that was called out 253 00:09:15,595 --> 00:09:16,975 as a top as a particular 254 00:09:17,330 --> 00:09:19,250 track. Yeah. There's a lot of things, I 255 00:09:19,250 --> 00:09:21,250 think, that were done really well about this 256 00:09:21,250 --> 00:09:23,730 that made it I mean, legitimately just made 257 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:25,570 it a ton of fun. Yeah. Like our 258 00:09:25,570 --> 00:09:26,070 sessions. 259 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:28,389 Yeah. Let me allow us to transition. 260 00:09:28,929 --> 00:09:31,169 Our sessions. I have never had a session 261 00:09:31,169 --> 00:09:32,230 quite like these. 262 00:09:32,955 --> 00:09:33,455 Yeah. 263 00:09:33,995 --> 00:09:35,375 The conference. Okay. 264 00:09:35,995 --> 00:09:37,535 You're welcome, by the way. 265 00:09:37,915 --> 00:09:39,934 Yeah. I think that's a combination of you. 266 00:09:40,075 --> 00:09:42,154 No. It's that it is partly you because 267 00:09:42,154 --> 00:09:43,355 we have a lot of fun with our 268 00:09:43,355 --> 00:09:45,274 sessions. We do. Yeah. But part of it 269 00:09:45,274 --> 00:09:47,620 was some of what John did with this 270 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:48,120 conference. 271 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:50,980 Oh, yeah. Yeah. The big thing that he 272 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:53,860 did to help the speakers engage with the 273 00:09:53,860 --> 00:09:56,100 attendees And the attendees to engage with the 274 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:57,860 speakers. Yes. I think it it was a 275 00:09:57,860 --> 00:09:58,580 two way 276 00:09:59,220 --> 00:10:01,164 Yep. For those of you not looking at 277 00:10:01,164 --> 00:10:03,164 my badge at the moment, which should be, 278 00:10:03,164 --> 00:10:04,684 I'd say, a 100% of you. None of 279 00:10:04,684 --> 00:10:06,065 you? I can make your badge, 280 00:10:06,524 --> 00:10:08,605 the artwork Okay. For the episode. I love 281 00:10:08,605 --> 00:10:10,865 it. In fact, you're already looked at it. 282 00:10:11,164 --> 00:10:13,345 So the badge is magnetic, 283 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,779 which is pretty cool. 284 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,980 And there's your name and your company. 285 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,159 Mine has a big Microsoft tile, and yours, 286 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:23,399 of course, is the MVP tile. But then 287 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:26,299 there are these smaller tiles which are tradable. 288 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,299 And the 289 00:10:28,924 --> 00:10:29,904 tiles have 290 00:10:30,524 --> 00:10:33,904 if John made a unique value to them 291 00:10:33,964 --> 00:10:35,725 in the sense that he printed more of 292 00:10:35,725 --> 00:10:37,824 some than others, so there were rare ones. 293 00:10:38,125 --> 00:10:40,365 And then as an attendee, you could go 294 00:10:40,365 --> 00:10:40,865 buy 295 00:10:41,339 --> 00:10:44,059 tokens of particular interest, whether it's a CoPilot 296 00:10:44,059 --> 00:10:46,620 logo or a neurodiversity logo or a Disney 297 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:49,179 thing or a meme that's been turned into 298 00:10:49,179 --> 00:10:52,299 a token. Really fantastic ideas all collected through 299 00:10:52,299 --> 00:10:55,065 the speaker group. And then you to buy 300 00:10:55,065 --> 00:10:55,804 the tokens, 301 00:10:56,105 --> 00:10:59,065 you used Clippy Bucks. And Clippy Bucks were 302 00:10:59,065 --> 00:11:00,665 handed out by speakers, and we had a 303 00:11:00,665 --> 00:11:03,325 lot of fun handing out Clippy Bucks for 304 00:11:03,545 --> 00:11:07,620 attending sessions or asking questions or simply, like, 305 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:09,539 I think we gave, like, 10 clippy bucks 306 00:11:09,539 --> 00:11:11,559 to someone who stumped us with a question. 307 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:12,679 And then 308 00:11:13,059 --> 00:11:15,059 someone else in the room educated us on 309 00:11:15,059 --> 00:11:17,539 the answer. So it was really just fun, 310 00:11:17,539 --> 00:11:20,065 a fun way to engage with people. Yeah. 311 00:11:20,065 --> 00:11:21,985 And it wasn't just in sessions. Like, I 312 00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:24,065 was walking around and people are like, hey, 313 00:11:24,065 --> 00:11:26,144 you do this podcast that some of you 314 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:27,845 are listening to right now. I was like, 315 00:11:28,225 --> 00:11:28,725 sweet. 316 00:11:29,504 --> 00:11:31,824 They're all listening to us. Some of you 317 00:11:31,824 --> 00:11:34,324 are listening to. This is why our sessions 318 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,799 went a little wild. Yes. I was like, 319 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:39,059 sweet. Here. Have a clip you back. Mhmm. 320 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,600 It was a lot of fun. Yeah. So 321 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,519 we did those are the sessions. We did 322 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:46,575 a zero trust session, which is a part 323 00:11:46,735 --> 00:11:48,415 of the work of the session we did 324 00:11:48,415 --> 00:11:50,815 at North American Collaboration Summit. Yes. And we 325 00:11:50,815 --> 00:11:52,654 did this in Philly too. We did this 326 00:11:52,654 --> 00:11:54,495 several times now. We didn't have So we 327 00:11:54,495 --> 00:11:56,915 did it in I know. And then Philly. 328 00:11:57,455 --> 00:11:59,370 We did the full day version of it 329 00:11:59,769 --> 00:12:01,929 in Branson, and then we went back to 330 00:12:01,929 --> 00:12:04,089 just the, like, one hour whiteboarding session here. 331 00:12:04,089 --> 00:12:06,250 And the really fun part was we had 332 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:08,509 a couple of repeat people from Branson, 333 00:12:08,970 --> 00:12:10,570 and one of them said this was he 334 00:12:10,570 --> 00:12:12,330 learned even more this time. So we're getting 335 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:13,870 better or he was more receptive, 336 00:12:14,195 --> 00:12:15,154 but it was a ton of fun. He 337 00:12:15,154 --> 00:12:17,735 got bored listening to us for eight hours 338 00:12:18,034 --> 00:12:19,875 and was like, one hour is all I 339 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:22,274 can handle of these two. But then I 340 00:12:22,274 --> 00:12:23,875 really appreciate that you asked me to do 341 00:12:23,875 --> 00:12:25,095 this is today, 342 00:12:25,475 --> 00:12:28,214 we did a deep dive just into 343 00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:29,959 conditional access. 344 00:12:30,259 --> 00:12:32,839 And conditional access, when it comes to security, 345 00:12:33,379 --> 00:12:36,039 conditional access is really fun because 346 00:12:36,579 --> 00:12:39,379 after doing the zero trust whiteboard, you get 347 00:12:39,379 --> 00:12:41,639 the opportunity to take all of the pieces 348 00:12:41,779 --> 00:12:44,534 of zero trust and connect dots. And so 349 00:12:44,534 --> 00:12:46,154 if you're any kind of neurodiverse 350 00:12:46,615 --> 00:12:49,174 and you like to, like, connect dots on 351 00:12:49,174 --> 00:12:49,674 things, 352 00:12:50,054 --> 00:12:52,375 conditional access is, like, the place to deep 353 00:12:52,375 --> 00:12:54,695 dive because you can do things like Jay 354 00:12:54,695 --> 00:12:57,335 is authenticating, and he's authenticating on a corporate 355 00:12:57,335 --> 00:12:59,514 device, and that corporate device is on 356 00:12:59,929 --> 00:13:01,149 trusted or approved 357 00:13:01,529 --> 00:13:02,029 network. 358 00:13:02,649 --> 00:13:04,350 And he's trying to access 359 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:06,029 sensitive content, 360 00:13:06,409 --> 00:13:09,129 and he wants to do a certain activity 361 00:13:09,129 --> 00:13:10,730 with it. And when you connect all of 362 00:13:10,730 --> 00:13:13,049 those different signals together, you can decide whether 363 00:13:13,049 --> 00:13:14,409 or not he should be allowed to do 364 00:13:14,409 --> 00:13:16,154 it. Yeah. I think it's one of those 365 00:13:16,154 --> 00:13:18,955 areas that you could really rabbit hole on 366 00:13:18,955 --> 00:13:21,434 in a bad way. But, also, if you 367 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:23,915 have really sensitive content, it's a really good 368 00:13:23,915 --> 00:13:26,715 way to add protections to it other than 369 00:13:26,715 --> 00:13:29,115 putting a password on it. So Yeah. And 370 00:13:29,115 --> 00:13:31,080 it was the one today. We had a 371 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,879 plan for today. It went off the rails 372 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:35,960 so fast. Yeah. So it was I can't 373 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,360 remember. It was, like, the session title we 374 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,360 forget. Joke to people. People are like, what 375 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,960 session are you doing? I'm like, I have 376 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,559 absolutely no idea because I can't remember what 377 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,865 the title is. I just know the topic. 378 00:13:45,024 --> 00:13:46,485 Yeah. We were going to 379 00:13:47,024 --> 00:13:49,424 introduce kinda conditional access. Here's what it is. 380 00:13:49,424 --> 00:13:51,105 Yep. And then just kinda walk through, here's 381 00:13:51,105 --> 00:13:52,485 how you start building policies. 382 00:13:52,865 --> 00:13:55,424 Yeah. We sort of got through the intro. 383 00:13:55,424 --> 00:13:57,345 We got through the intro. Intro. Pretty well. 384 00:13:57,345 --> 00:13:59,539 We got through that well. We went well. 385 00:13:59,539 --> 00:14:01,379 But then you raised you asked, raise your 386 00:14:01,379 --> 00:14:03,879 hand if you use conditional access, and literally 387 00:14:04,019 --> 00:14:05,700 every hand in the room went up. I 388 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:07,139 think that's where it started. Because at that 389 00:14:07,139 --> 00:14:08,179 point in time, I was like, I might 390 00:14:08,179 --> 00:14:09,539 as well just walk out. You guys can 391 00:14:09,539 --> 00:14:12,165 all just, like, teach your own class. But 392 00:14:12,165 --> 00:14:13,764 at the same time, it was really cool 393 00:14:13,764 --> 00:14:14,825 because everybody 394 00:14:15,365 --> 00:14:17,684 was familiar with it. Yeah. And this is, 395 00:14:17,684 --> 00:14:20,665 I think, where the Clippy Bucks really 396 00:14:21,125 --> 00:14:23,065 drove engagement Right. Was, 397 00:14:23,605 --> 00:14:26,240 one, people knew we would, like, make it 398 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,919 rain with Clippy Bucks. Some of them had 399 00:14:27,919 --> 00:14:30,080 been in our first session, and they were 400 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,720 like, these guys give out Clippy Bucks if 401 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,459 I participate. 402 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,120 Yes. And I asked, who's those conditional access? 403 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,559 All the hands went up. And I was 404 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:41,235 like, okay. You got you all have clearly 405 00:14:41,295 --> 00:14:43,134 done this. Yep. What do you wanna learn? 406 00:14:43,134 --> 00:14:45,054 What do you wanna learn about? Yeah. And 407 00:14:45,054 --> 00:14:46,654 even though they'd all done it, like, 10 408 00:14:46,654 --> 00:14:49,054 hands shot up. Yep. Like, this is gonna 409 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:52,514 be interesting. So instead of going through it, 410 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:54,190 we got through a couple of them. People 411 00:14:54,190 --> 00:14:56,430 had not seen agents with conditional access. That 412 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:58,350 was a big one. Yeah. So we were 413 00:14:58,350 --> 00:15:00,830 able to demo some of that. Yep. But 414 00:15:00,830 --> 00:15:03,090 the rest of the time, it was 415 00:15:03,870 --> 00:15:06,815 driven by users just asking questions. 416 00:15:07,355 --> 00:15:09,514 Well, and, actually, even that one, like, the 417 00:15:09,514 --> 00:15:11,934 first big topic that came up was authentication 418 00:15:12,235 --> 00:15:12,815 and context. 419 00:15:13,195 --> 00:15:15,035 What are you trying to access, and what 420 00:15:15,035 --> 00:15:16,315 can you lock down around that? And Jay 421 00:15:16,315 --> 00:15:18,610 was like, hey, Ben. Yeah. Have fun. Well, 422 00:15:18,610 --> 00:15:20,210 the funny thing is and that's on me. 423 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:21,910 Right? Like, so admittedly, 424 00:15:22,529 --> 00:15:24,950 in this particular topic, I know 425 00:15:25,330 --> 00:15:28,950 a broad swath but surface level detail, and 426 00:15:29,090 --> 00:15:30,850 you know the topic deeply. You could have 427 00:15:30,850 --> 00:15:32,610 run this by yourself. You were gracious enough 428 00:15:32,610 --> 00:15:33,754 to bring me in because we have a 429 00:15:33,754 --> 00:15:35,495 lot of fun together. We absolutely 430 00:15:35,875 --> 00:15:37,715 we were told we have good chemistry this 431 00:15:37,715 --> 00:15:39,014 week. We were. 432 00:15:39,394 --> 00:15:43,554 I had literally just described authentication context as 433 00:15:43,554 --> 00:15:46,720 an example without using that those words. And 434 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,320 then they asked me to describe and they 435 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,080 asked me those words. I'm like, I don't, 436 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,379 Ben, save me. 437 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:53,759 And then you then answered with what I 438 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:55,440 just described, and I'm like, oh, I could 439 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,200 have answered that. I just didn't know I 440 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,039 could have answered that. And so I learned 441 00:15:59,039 --> 00:16:01,675 a bunch of stuff with more detail and 442 00:16:01,675 --> 00:16:03,754 from a screen perspective too because I don't 443 00:16:03,754 --> 00:16:05,595 live in this world. So that's also really 444 00:16:05,595 --> 00:16:07,514 cool. So that was a big topic. That 445 00:16:07,514 --> 00:16:09,434 was, like, a twenty minute conversation. Then we 446 00:16:09,434 --> 00:16:11,675 had a topic around someone else brought up 447 00:16:11,675 --> 00:16:13,754 the the context of, okay. So I have 448 00:16:13,754 --> 00:16:15,134 someone who travels to 449 00:16:15,730 --> 00:16:18,450 Russia and The Ukraine and this other place 450 00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:20,710 for scouting potential employees, and 451 00:16:21,170 --> 00:16:22,929 how do I protect what they're doing? So 452 00:16:22,929 --> 00:16:24,470 we got to dive deep into 453 00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:26,230 location based controls, 454 00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:28,049 and then someone else 455 00:16:28,674 --> 00:16:30,754 even the agents won. The last ten minutes 456 00:16:30,754 --> 00:16:32,754 of the session, someone said, what can we 457 00:16:32,754 --> 00:16:34,915 do with agents? And so even though that 458 00:16:34,915 --> 00:16:36,915 was the one thing we had planned, we 459 00:16:36,915 --> 00:16:39,235 just got this opportunity to deep dive on, 460 00:16:39,235 --> 00:16:40,455 like, four scenarios 461 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:42,879 that, honestly, if if we had written in 462 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:44,559 the session, we're gonna deep dive on four 463 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:47,039 scenarios of your choice. Like, it would it 464 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:49,600 it was perfect. It was awesome. Absolutely. And, 465 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,360 again, I'm gonna hammer on this because I 466 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,620 would love to see more conferences do this. 467 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:56,174 I think the Clippy Bucks. Yeah. Like, people 468 00:16:56,174 --> 00:16:58,335 legitimately have questions. Yeah. But a lot of 469 00:16:58,335 --> 00:17:00,815 times, people are like, oh, I don't wanna 470 00:17:00,815 --> 00:17:02,335 answer or I don't wanna ask. I don't 471 00:17:02,335 --> 00:17:04,414 wanna seem stupid. I don't want people to 472 00:17:04,414 --> 00:17:06,174 make fun of me. But because of these 473 00:17:06,174 --> 00:17:09,339 Clippy Bucks, everyone's like, I want clippy bucks. 474 00:17:09,339 --> 00:17:11,900 Yeah. I don't care. I'm going to ask 475 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:13,980 my question That's fair. Because I want a 476 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:16,059 clippy buck so I can go get these 477 00:17:16,059 --> 00:17:18,940 tokens for these badge. One person had a 478 00:17:18,940 --> 00:17:20,299 goal. They're like, I need to come out 479 00:17:20,299 --> 00:17:22,174 of the session with, like, 25 flippy bucks 480 00:17:22,335 --> 00:17:24,414 Right. Because I want to buy this token 481 00:17:24,414 --> 00:17:26,174 from to take home to my daughter. Yep. 482 00:17:26,174 --> 00:17:27,695 Yep. So we had to make sure they 483 00:17:27,695 --> 00:17:29,875 didn't hog the whole session, but they were 484 00:17:30,095 --> 00:17:32,095 full of they only had 25. I think 485 00:17:32,095 --> 00:17:33,359 they wanted to get to 50. 486 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:35,599 Just looking at his badge No. How much 487 00:17:35,599 --> 00:17:36,799 do they cost? Well, first of all, I'm 488 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,720 looking at yours because mine doesn't have this 489 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,559 description on the back. Oh. I'm I'm looking 490 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,039 at it because I didn't realize that you 491 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:45,119 have a the podcast that we are on 492 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,684 right now has a token. And it is 493 00:17:47,684 --> 00:17:49,845 the only one. That was the only one. 494 00:17:49,924 --> 00:17:50,424 Rare. 495 00:17:50,964 --> 00:17:53,204 He made one just for you. Just for 496 00:17:53,204 --> 00:17:54,964 me? That's awesome. But if you would have 497 00:17:54,964 --> 00:17:56,325 sent in your picture, you would have gotten 498 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,980 something that I've gotten into. That's my fault. 499 00:17:59,299 --> 00:18:02,099 Which Yeah. Now what's funny, I now have 500 00:18:02,099 --> 00:18:02,599 a 501 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:05,140 silhouette that I would have submitted You could've 502 00:18:05,380 --> 00:18:07,779 if I had that earlier. Phoenix twenty twenty 503 00:18:07,779 --> 00:18:09,859 seven. There we go. But no. Because people 504 00:18:09,859 --> 00:18:11,595 wanted those, they were not afraid 505 00:18:12,075 --> 00:18:14,234 to ask questions. Right. In some cases, they 506 00:18:14,234 --> 00:18:17,454 were even looking for how can I participate 507 00:18:17,994 --> 00:18:20,634 in this session Yep? To get Clippy Bucks, 508 00:18:20,634 --> 00:18:22,474 which I don't know I don't know how 509 00:18:22,474 --> 00:18:24,154 all presenters feel. 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Yeah. 534 00:19:34,579 --> 00:19:36,740 And I feel like of all again, of 535 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,674 all the councils that I've been to, most 536 00:19:38,674 --> 00:19:39,174 participation 537 00:19:39,714 --> 00:19:41,714 ever out of an audience at this one. 538 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:43,554 And I truly do think it was in 539 00:19:43,554 --> 00:19:45,394 part due to Clippy Bucks and people just 540 00:19:45,394 --> 00:19:47,554 wanting them and us being able to motivate 541 00:19:47,554 --> 00:19:49,075 them. I may have even tried to bribe 542 00:19:49,075 --> 00:19:51,394 attendees to steal Tim Tams from the session 543 00:19:51,394 --> 00:19:53,894 next door to us with Clippy Bucks here. 544 00:19:54,169 --> 00:19:55,690 For those of you who aren't familiar, Tim 545 00:19:55,690 --> 00:19:58,329 Tams are a delicious chocolate treat. It's a 546 00:19:58,329 --> 00:20:01,049 cookie or a biscuit because it's you're It's 547 00:20:01,049 --> 00:20:03,210 not Australian, so it's a biscuit. So it's 548 00:20:03,210 --> 00:20:05,130 a two layer biscuit filled with a chocolate 549 00:20:05,130 --> 00:20:07,835 cream covered in a chocolate shell. And then 550 00:20:08,295 --> 00:20:09,815 you can eat it normally, like, you would 551 00:20:09,815 --> 00:20:11,414 just take bites of it. But there's something 552 00:20:11,414 --> 00:20:13,414 called a temtem slam, where if you bite 553 00:20:13,414 --> 00:20:15,015 off one corner and then you bite off 554 00:20:15,015 --> 00:20:16,234 the opposite corner, 555 00:20:16,535 --> 00:20:18,694 you can dip it in I do it 556 00:20:18,694 --> 00:20:20,214 with coffee. Kids can do it with hot 557 00:20:20,214 --> 00:20:22,070 chocolate or tea. You dip it in there, 558 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:23,190 and you hold it in there, and then 559 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:25,910 you use it like a straw. And it 560 00:20:25,910 --> 00:20:27,990 melts the chocolate cream on the inside. It 561 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:29,990 softens the cook the biscuit. It makes it 562 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:32,789 delicious. It's awesome. Highly recommended. And by the 563 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:34,869 way, they sell Tim Tams at grocery stores 564 00:20:34,869 --> 00:20:36,845 in America now. Not all. But there are 565 00:20:36,845 --> 00:20:39,565 grocery stores. Find some. Yes. But yeah. It's 566 00:20:39,565 --> 00:20:40,065 just 567 00:20:40,605 --> 00:20:42,924 that type of stuff, though, made it more 568 00:20:42,924 --> 00:20:43,805 engaging Yeah. 569 00:20:44,445 --> 00:20:47,404 From all aspects by just having fun with 570 00:20:47,404 --> 00:20:50,899 attendees with it to, I think, driving value 571 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,519 and learning Yes. Out of the sessions through 572 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:54,419 some of that participation. 573 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,119 Yep. There's also again, I walked into this 574 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,279 thinking it was a security conference, but there 575 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:01,359 was a women in tech conversation, which was 576 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,440 great. Yep. The conversation's the wrong word. There 577 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,174 was a session on women in technology, a 578 00:21:05,255 --> 00:21:07,195 panel. There was also a panel on neurodiversity, 579 00:21:07,335 --> 00:21:09,414 which I thought was really excellent. They had 580 00:21:09,414 --> 00:21:13,174 three panelists up there with completely different perspectives 581 00:21:13,494 --> 00:21:16,315 not perspectives, completely different Different experiences? 582 00:21:16,695 --> 00:21:19,140 Thank you. With completely different please delete that. 583 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:21,160 They had a panel on neurodiversity 584 00:21:21,619 --> 00:21:24,359 with three panelists with completely different experiences 585 00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:25,960 in in neurodiversity 586 00:21:26,339 --> 00:21:28,740 with the the way it showed for them, 587 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:30,680 the way it helped them, the way 588 00:21:31,059 --> 00:21:32,894 it made the I guess, the way it 589 00:21:32,894 --> 00:21:35,454 affected their behavior and their energy and all 590 00:21:35,454 --> 00:21:37,294 of that. And they got to talk through 591 00:21:37,294 --> 00:21:38,034 those experiences, 592 00:21:38,335 --> 00:21:40,674 and I think everyone in the room saw 593 00:21:40,894 --> 00:21:43,054 something about them represented on stage. And it 594 00:21:43,054 --> 00:21:44,894 was super cool to see that at a 595 00:21:44,894 --> 00:21:47,660 technology conference. I think it's just really great 596 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:49,839 to celebrate what makes us all different 597 00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:51,119 and what 598 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:53,119 gives us our superpowers, 599 00:21:53,579 --> 00:21:55,500 and it was really it was fun. Yeah. 600 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,759 And a big shout out to John for 601 00:21:57,820 --> 00:21:59,359 organizing this and orchestrating 602 00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:01,339 that part of the conference. Like, that was 603 00:22:01,339 --> 00:22:04,115 super important to him Yep. Going into this 604 00:22:04,115 --> 00:22:05,734 conference to have 605 00:22:06,115 --> 00:22:07,095 that focus 606 00:22:07,634 --> 00:22:09,795 and that that focus and that component and 607 00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:12,035 that aspect to the conference the last couple 608 00:22:12,035 --> 00:22:15,234 days. Yeah. Absolutely. John really busted his tail, 609 00:22:15,234 --> 00:22:16,134 and his team 610 00:22:16,609 --> 00:22:18,769 really busted their tails to make sure that 611 00:22:18,769 --> 00:22:19,509 we had 612 00:22:20,609 --> 00:22:22,230 an a venue, an opportunity, 613 00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:25,109 a place of safety and connectivity. 614 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:27,650 It was awesome. So my hats off to 615 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:30,755 them. As someone who has run events not 616 00:22:30,755 --> 00:22:33,414 of quite of this scale, but run events, 617 00:22:34,115 --> 00:22:36,855 pulled schedules together, brought in sponsors, 618 00:22:37,554 --> 00:22:39,794 this was a top notch community event. Yeah. 619 00:22:39,794 --> 00:22:41,474 You have an event coming up. I do. 620 00:22:41,474 --> 00:22:44,054 Are there gonna be Clippy Bucks? Not currently 621 00:22:44,115 --> 00:22:46,089 planned. I'll say it that way. Although, I 622 00:22:46,089 --> 00:22:48,589 don't know. Clippy Bucks might be J bucks. 623 00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:50,269 J bucks. That's too much. 624 00:22:50,889 --> 00:22:53,210 Anyway, so, yes, m $3.65 625 00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:55,690 DC is coming up at the January. It's 626 00:22:55,690 --> 00:22:56,669 a two day event. 627 00:22:57,049 --> 00:23:00,169 I wanna say it's the January. 628 00:23:00,169 --> 00:23:01,309 It's that Thursday, Friday. 629 00:23:01,634 --> 00:23:03,555 The first day, Thursday is gonna be a 630 00:23:03,555 --> 00:23:05,894 workshop day. Okay. So we have 631 00:23:07,555 --> 00:23:09,634 two time slots, a morning workshop and an 632 00:23:09,634 --> 00:23:11,795 afternoon workshop. Three hours each, we'll have lunch 633 00:23:11,795 --> 00:23:13,335 in between. And then 634 00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:15,669 I think we're running six workshops that day. 635 00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:17,029 So three in the morning, three in the 636 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:20,150 afternoon. Okay. And then the second day and 637 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,470 they are separate tickets just because we wanna 638 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:23,130 make sure, 639 00:23:23,509 --> 00:23:24,869 a, we don't have as much space on 640 00:23:24,869 --> 00:23:26,390 the workshop day. We wanna give it a 641 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:27,529 little bit more intimacy 642 00:23:28,054 --> 00:23:30,294 from an education and networking perspective. And then 643 00:23:30,294 --> 00:23:32,234 the second day is all one hour panels 644 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:35,015 or workshop one hour sessions. And I think 645 00:23:35,015 --> 00:23:37,494 we're targeting something like 50 sessions on the 646 00:23:37,494 --> 00:23:40,134 second day. Nice. Yeah. And, unfortunately, none of 647 00:23:40,134 --> 00:23:41,799 them are gonna be ours. You're running it, 648 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:43,559 and you have I don't present it things 649 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:44,859 I run. Yeah. Ours. 650 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,920 I had thought about it. And then you 651 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,619 went, I don't need to go to DC. 652 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Well, it was a little bit late. I've 653 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,700 been doing a conference a month since 654 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,680 August. Yeah. And 655 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,299 As you all know. 656 00:23:56,914 --> 00:23:58,694 Yeah. And then starting in February, 657 00:23:58,994 --> 00:23:59,734 I have 658 00:24:00,355 --> 00:24:03,015 one a one a month, February, March, April. 659 00:24:03,794 --> 00:24:06,515 May, I think. May. I think. Yes. And 660 00:24:06,515 --> 00:24:07,875 your family would like to see you? My 661 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:09,954 family would like to see me, and my 662 00:24:09,954 --> 00:24:11,714 clients would like to see me get work 663 00:24:11,714 --> 00:24:13,559 done. Yes. Which Yes. 664 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,299 I always go into these with good intentions. 665 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,200 So Yeah. Taking January off, so if you 666 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,099 want to see 667 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,180 a zero trust whiteboard or a conditional access 668 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,400 off the rails, I am officially renaming that 669 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,259 session. It's a good one to do now. 670 00:24:27,394 --> 00:24:28,294 To condition Conditionally 671 00:24:28,674 --> 00:24:29,174 accessed. 672 00:24:29,554 --> 00:24:32,194 Un on on anyway. Yes. Yes. Off the 673 00:24:32,194 --> 00:24:33,634 rails. I don't know when we're gonna do 674 00:24:33,634 --> 00:24:35,154 it again, though. We don't have it. Like, 675 00:24:35,154 --> 00:24:37,234 I have those conferences Yeah. But we don't 676 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:38,595 have our sessions at any of those. We 677 00:24:38,595 --> 00:24:40,919 need to get on this. Yeah. I should 678 00:24:40,919 --> 00:24:43,159 submit one for m three sixty five conference 679 00:24:43,159 --> 00:24:44,759 Vegas. Maybe I can get us in that 680 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,079 way. When is that one? April. That was 681 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,000 in Orlando. No. Yes. I have a workshop 682 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,539 there. They already picked sessions. 683 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,799 They did, but Microsoft employee sessions haven't been 684 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:54,299 finalized. 685 00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,054 Do you have some you should get one 686 00:24:56,054 --> 00:24:57,414 in, and then I'll come do it with 687 00:24:57,414 --> 00:24:59,414 you. Even if I'm not, like, formally on 688 00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:01,414 the agenda, I'll just show up. Okay. I'll 689 00:25:01,414 --> 00:25:03,095 get that submitted. We'll see what happens. Okay. 690 00:25:03,095 --> 00:25:04,554 I don't know. I'm getting a little 691 00:25:04,855 --> 00:25:07,335 a little sausage make there that maybe I 692 00:25:07,335 --> 00:25:09,710 shouldn't be, but, yes, I will we'll see 693 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:11,970 about April. How about that? April in Orlando, 694 00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:14,690 the other one we could potentially see about, 695 00:25:14,830 --> 00:25:16,369 how do you feel about Chicago 696 00:25:17,309 --> 00:25:17,809 in 697 00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:18,690 June? 698 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:21,230 I have not decided if I'm submitting for 699 00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:23,914 Chicago in June. I probably will. Okay. Which 700 00:25:23,914 --> 00:25:25,595 means that I will be gone in February, 701 00:25:25,595 --> 00:25:27,595 March, April, May, and June. Yeah. But those 702 00:25:27,595 --> 00:25:29,195 are fun. Yeah. We should see about maybe 703 00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:30,955 doing one in June, m three sixty five 704 00:25:30,955 --> 00:25:33,755 conference in Chicago. Because that email and everything 705 00:25:33,755 --> 00:25:36,529 just came out. Yeah. Well, either way, if 706 00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:38,690 you're listening to this show by the way, 707 00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:40,930 as an outside observer to the MS Cloud 708 00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:42,769 IT Pro, even though I am a one 709 00:25:42,769 --> 00:25:44,609 time host of the show, I will say 710 00:25:44,609 --> 00:25:46,630 this. You people are awesome. 711 00:25:47,009 --> 00:25:50,289 And I'm specifically referring to the listeners by 712 00:25:50,289 --> 00:25:50,894 you people. 713 00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:53,455 I've met, I don't know, like four people 714 00:25:53,455 --> 00:25:55,695 at this conference. Shocked how many people here 715 00:25:56,095 --> 00:25:58,434 Yep. Had listened to the show because 716 00:25:58,815 --> 00:26:00,095 How many of them do you remember by 717 00:26:00,095 --> 00:26:01,775 name? Love what? How many of them do 718 00:26:01,775 --> 00:26:03,234 you remember by name? Jose. 719 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:05,960 Jonathan. Jonathan. From the Dallas Stars. I gotta 720 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,179 say that. I'm 721 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,200 a huge Dallas Stars fan. So to nerd 722 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,200 out with with one of the Jonathan, to 723 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,240 nerd out with you is a lot of 724 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,000 fun. So thank you for that. I fell 725 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,919 into your trap of naming names. And if 726 00:26:16,919 --> 00:26:19,875 I forget somebody, I think Felix was one. 727 00:26:20,015 --> 00:26:22,115 You totally fell into my trap. 728 00:26:23,055 --> 00:26:25,134 If you met at the conference and he 729 00:26:25,134 --> 00:26:27,134 forgot to name you here, it's entirely my 730 00:26:27,134 --> 00:26:29,214 fault. It is Jay's fault. Blame him. You 731 00:26:29,214 --> 00:26:31,075 can see what our sessions are like. 732 00:26:32,639 --> 00:26:34,399 I feel like there was one other one, 733 00:26:34,399 --> 00:26:36,559 and I'm sorry I'm forgetting names. I'm gonna 734 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:37,960 start writing them down. I'm gonna start writing 735 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,839 them down. Who I'm at. You should start 736 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:42,079 selfie ing. Okay. So here's the thing. Need 737 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,240 to selfie. New rule. If you meet Ben 738 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,704 at a conference, one, you have to say, 739 00:26:46,704 --> 00:26:49,105 hey. I listen to the show. Give me 740 00:26:49,105 --> 00:26:51,204 a sticker. That's the first thing. Yes. Absolutely. 741 00:26:51,664 --> 00:26:53,105 Extra points if you ask for a clippy 742 00:26:53,105 --> 00:26:54,544 buck, which he won't have on him. I 743 00:26:54,544 --> 00:26:56,384 should be able to let him take some 744 00:26:56,384 --> 00:26:59,019 hold. And then two, demand a selfie so 745 00:26:59,019 --> 00:27:00,299 that he can post it. I know you 746 00:27:00,299 --> 00:27:02,859 have social media. Yeah. Demand a selfie that 747 00:27:02,859 --> 00:27:05,340 he can post on social media so that 748 00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:06,779 he can start to to get to know 749 00:27:06,779 --> 00:27:07,980 you all. Yes. And make me do it 750 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:09,900 because I get back from these conferences, and 751 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:12,320 I'm like, everybody's posting selfies, and I'm notoriously 752 00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:15,774 bad Yeah. About selfies for So it whatever 753 00:27:15,774 --> 00:27:17,855 reason. So if you're on social media and 754 00:27:17,855 --> 00:27:18,414 you see this 755 00:27:19,375 --> 00:27:21,375 oh, this is terrible. The lighting here is 756 00:27:21,375 --> 00:27:24,095 awful. I'm not trying yeah. The right thanks. 757 00:27:24,095 --> 00:27:26,289 No. Do that. That's where we go. So 758 00:27:26,289 --> 00:27:26,869 if you 759 00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:28,470 see this selfie 760 00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:31,170 that we just took while talking about taking 761 00:27:31,170 --> 00:27:33,250 a selfie, know that this is the new 762 00:27:33,250 --> 00:27:34,529 tradition is you need to take a selfie 763 00:27:34,529 --> 00:27:36,930 with this. And absolutely And Scott. I'm sorry. 764 00:27:36,930 --> 00:27:38,309 Scott. Yes. And Scott. 765 00:27:38,674 --> 00:27:41,394 I May maybe one week's episode, I'll actually 766 00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:43,154 do an episode with Scott just for I 767 00:27:43,234 --> 00:27:45,154 Scott is not gonna trust me anymore after 768 00:27:45,154 --> 00:27:47,394 this week to do podcast episodes. He's gonna 769 00:27:47,394 --> 00:27:49,335 start coming to conferences with me 770 00:27:49,794 --> 00:27:50,855 just to 771 00:27:51,869 --> 00:27:54,269 make sure I don't do anything I'd later 772 00:27:54,269 --> 00:27:56,690 regret on the podcast. It's then mission accomplished. 773 00:27:56,910 --> 00:27:59,329 Yeah. No. But I what is this? Absolutely 774 00:27:59,390 --> 00:28:00,990 come up to me and Scott. Like, I 775 00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:03,230 love meeting people and talking to people that 776 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:05,009 listen to the show. Yeah. And 777 00:28:05,474 --> 00:28:08,755 I know from an attendee perspective, I have 778 00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:09,974 been an attendee 779 00:28:10,434 --> 00:28:13,234 where, like, do you see certain speakers or 780 00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:15,554 podcasters, like, I don't know that I wanna 781 00:28:15,554 --> 00:28:17,075 talk to them. I wanna Right. Stay in 782 00:28:17,075 --> 00:28:19,220 my little bubble. Please don't ever feel that 783 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:21,379 way with Scott and I. Like, legitimately just 784 00:28:21,379 --> 00:28:22,579 come up and say, hey. I listened to 785 00:28:22,579 --> 00:28:24,740 the show, or I recognize your voice. That's 786 00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:26,419 the most common one I get. I heard 787 00:28:26,419 --> 00:28:29,299 that. Podcast. I know that voice. Yeah. That's 788 00:28:29,299 --> 00:28:31,940 awesome. It's fun. I absolutely love it. Yeah. 789 00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:34,055 So Alright. For that, we I feel like 790 00:28:34,055 --> 00:28:35,815 we should wrap. We should because we need 791 00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:37,095 to go find out who won Flip the 792 00:28:37,095 --> 00:28:39,174 Awards. Okay. But it was neither you nor 793 00:28:39,174 --> 00:28:40,955 I because we weren't nominated. 794 00:28:41,894 --> 00:28:43,575 Yeah. I was kinda sad about that. There 795 00:28:43,575 --> 00:28:44,474 should have been, like, 796 00:28:44,775 --> 00:28:45,515 a new 797 00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:48,455 new to the workplace ninjas clip Yeah. And 798 00:28:48,455 --> 00:28:49,630 I was kinda new to the whole thing, 799 00:28:49,630 --> 00:28:51,630 and I didn't quite know how nominations work 800 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:53,309 or how people got in there. Wasn't even 801 00:28:53,309 --> 00:28:54,829 on my phone. Had I known, I would 802 00:28:54,829 --> 00:28:56,589 have nominated you. You could have nominated me, 803 00:28:56,589 --> 00:28:57,890 and we would have been in there. 804 00:28:58,670 --> 00:29:00,049 It would have been a fix. 805 00:29:00,670 --> 00:29:03,284 Listen. It's been fun. MS Cloud IT Pro 806 00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:04,804 listeners, thank you so much for joining us 807 00:29:04,804 --> 00:29:07,765 for another episode of Jay's Takeover on Hot 808 00:29:07,765 --> 00:29:10,484 Stop. Takeover. Alright. Thanks, Jay. 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