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Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, whatever the

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case may be. This is Mike, and this

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is Mike Dell's World number four twenty nine

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for the twenty third of November twenty twenty

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five. I I think it's time for my

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dove world. There it is. And here we

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are. So today, I'm gonna talk about aviation

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and, specifically aviation up north here at Traverse

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City, Cherry Capital Airport, which we talked about

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the airport back in, what was it? Long,

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long, long time ago on the seventh of

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the month, I think. Yeah. It was the

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seventh of the month. We talked all about

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the airport here, but what we're gonna talk

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about this time is flight schools and other

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schools, at the airport. And what I mean

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by that is places to learn to fly,

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and, also, we have a unique school up

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here to teach people to be airplane mechanics.

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And it's it's pretty robust, I have to

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say, for a a place that a lot

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of the year, it's really hard to get

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good flying weather. But we have a really

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successful school here, Northwestern Michigan College, which also

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has the excuse me. Oh, excuse me. Wow.

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Anyway, northern Northwestern Michigan College also has the

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only freshwater maritime academy of, you know, teach

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people how to be engineers and officers on,

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you know, mainly Great Lakes freighters, but they

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can go worldwide. And the Merchant Marines, you

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know, working on ships and whatnot. That's one

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of their big schools here. And then, the

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other one is the, NMC Aviation School, and

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they're a pretty big deal. You know, they've

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got, I don't know how many aircraft, but,

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a lot, I have to say. I you

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know, a lot of one seventy twos, some

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twins, and they, their business is making airline

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pilots. You know, they teach aviation from, you

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know, private, commercial, multi engine, and instructor ratings.

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And then a lot of times, the instructors,

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you know, once they graduate as an instructor,

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they work for the school as instructors until

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they get their fifteen hundred hours they need

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to apply to the airlines. And they have

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a pretty good track record of, you know,

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getting people through that school and, and, you

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know, eventually onto the airlines. There is a

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rule to get your ATP, which is airline

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transport pilot license or certificate. They don't call

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them licenses, by the way. You know? But

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people use it. Anyway, English optional today. But,

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you know, NMC graduate graduates a lot of

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pilots, for, you know, airlines and, you know,

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corporate, jet jobs and other things. You know,

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they don't teach helicopters, but there's another I

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I don't know if you wanna call it

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a school, but there's another helicopter thing here

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in town, but we'll we'll get to that.

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But, NMC Aviation is, you know, they're top

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notch, and they just built this beautiful facility,

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over there. They redid, their hangars, and and,

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they got a maintenance facility, and, it's just

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awesome. I, you know, I got a little

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tour of it not too long ago, and

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and they just opened it up. I wanna

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say less than a month ago. And, you

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know, they keep getting in new aircraft and,

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you know, they're just, they're building. The the

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guy that runs it over there is a

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former seven forty seven pilot, young guy too.

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You know? He worked for, Atlas Airlines. You

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probably never heard of Atlas, but you have

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heard Prime Air. They're a cargo outfit, and

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one of their claims to fame is they

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operate all of the prime aircraft or not

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all of them, I should say, some of

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them. They, you know, they they operate those.

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really weird looking seven forty seven that hauls

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the parts around for the seven eighty seven,

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for Boeing. But, but, anyway and I and

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worked there or do work there. Rick and,

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Kelsey, the two that I know that are

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both captains on seven forty sevens. This guy,

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he was, on seven forty seven. He got

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tired of, being gone all the time. So

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he, took the job here at NMC Aviation

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and is doing a bang up job. It's

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a it's a really cool facility and, you

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know, they like I said, they train a

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lot of people, to be airline pilots, and

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other, you know, paid pilots. You know, people

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do it for a career. But, that leaves

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a little gap there because, you know, recreational

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pilots and some people that also wanna do

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airlines. There's another outfit. One that I've taken

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advantage of is Giving Wings Aviation. That's, done

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by a guy, Eric. And, he he, is

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running this flight school and maintenance facility. You

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know? So he does maintenance on other people's

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airplanes, but mostly, the airplanes for the school.

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So I don't know what's going on with

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my watch here. But, you know, so I've

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been flying with them for a few years

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and renting airplanes and taking instruction and all

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that good stuff. And it's, you know, it's

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a nice outfit, and it's a small outfit,

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which is kinda nice. So, you know, that's

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another option for, you know, pilots who wanna

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get their sport pilot license or private pilot

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license, even their commercial. And, you know, they

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do all the stuff. It's just, you know,

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they don't do multi engine anymore, and they

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don't do seaplanes anymore. At one point, they

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were doing seaplanes and and, multi engine. But,

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they've kinda paired it down to, just single

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engine land aircraft, and you get all your

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ratings, on those, at least all the single

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engine ratings. And, yeah, it works out really

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good. It's a more laid back school, the

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way the FAA does it. There's things, called

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a part one forty one school, which goes

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by a syllabus. And and, you know, Giving

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Wings also does one forty one training as

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well. But one forty one training is more,

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you know, airline focused or career focused aviation,

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Whereas part sixty one is kind of the

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more laid back, you know, you get an

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instructor, you get all the boxes checked, and

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then you take a check. Right? You get

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a certificate or a license, you know, for,

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you know, what most people call a pilot's

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license, but, you know, it's not really a

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license. It's a certificate. That's what the FAA

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calls it anyway. And, you know, it's but

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it's it's really nice that here in Traverse

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City, we have these schools available. You know,

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really nice for me. I live, you know,

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five minutes away from, the airport here from

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giving wings hanger. So, you know, when I

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go flying, it's oh, I'm gonna go flying

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at, at four. I leave here at, you

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know, ten minutes to four over there plenty

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of time, and, you know, it's great. Like

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I said, it couldn't be more convenient. The

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airspace is a bit of a challenge, especially

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with all the college planes and and all

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that, but, you know, it's it's a busy

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airport, but, there's a lot of airports around

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here. In part two of this, aviation up

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north series, I'll I'm gonna talk about some

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of the other airports around here, but we'll

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focus on the the schools that are in

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the area right now and, you know, and

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other interesting things. Our high school also has

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an aviation program. And now somebody else is

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talking. I don't know what's going on. I

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think my my phone and my Alexa and

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all that stuff, it's sorry. I don't I

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got my headphones on. I won't pay any

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attention to it. But, anyway, our high school

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or not our high school, I should say,

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our regional, career tech center, which is affiliated

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with a bunch of high schools around here,

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also has an aviation program. Now they're not

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flying. These are, you know, eleventh and twelfth

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grade students, in high school. And, you know,

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it's kind of a aviation introduction to aviation

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and some maintenance and, you know, our local

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EAA group is is is gonna get involved

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with them a little bit as for mentorship

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and maybe building, airplane or something, you know,

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something like that. Again, it's it's a fairly

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new program, and a lot of the, a

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lot of the guys from, EAA are are

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helping out the instructor and and all that,

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getting that program off and running. But, you

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know, it's it's pretty pretty slick how that

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works. It used to be called the TBA

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Career Tech Center, and I don't remember. They

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they've changed their names, like, name, like, twice,

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but it's part of the intermediate school district,

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which covers the five county area around here.

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And they teach a lot of other things

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over there, the building trades and small engine

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repair, auto mechanics, auto body shop, medical. That's

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what I went to it for, you know,

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thirty, forty, forty years ago. Jeez. But, yeah,

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I did a year. My senior year of

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high school did the, medical thing. It's called,

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I don't even remember what the class was

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called, but, basically, teach how to be a

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nurse's aide, which I never did. I I

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mean, I got through the the course, but

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I went in the air force and and

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did a lot of airplaney things. So, didn't

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didn't really, use the medical thing. But, yeah,

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it was a way to get off campus

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for half a day my senior year because

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I I had enough credits to graduate high

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school, early anyway. So, you know, I just

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like, it wasn't really a goof off class.

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particularly easy. But, anyway, wish they had aviation

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back then, but, they didn't. But now they

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our EA guys are, involved with, helping the

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instructor set that up. But, you know, I

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don't know how much they're involved, but pretty

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cool. And then there's Legacy Aviation. Now this

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is unique in the aviation maintenance world. It's

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the only school in the country that you

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can do a twelve month program, and that

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takes you all the way up to, where

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you can get your airframe and power plant

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license, which is the license you need. And

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that well, they call that a certificate too

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probably, but FAA is weird. But, you know,

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get get your certification to be a, aircraft

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mechanic. And this one does it in twelve

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months. The the the one that's even, you

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know, close to that is eighteen months to

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two years, usually. And for, you know, fairly

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substantial amount of money, but not, not ridiculous,

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not college level amount of money. You can

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go to Legacy Aviation, and, I think they

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do fifty weeks. So they get two weeks

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off, during the the year, but it goes

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year round. And when you come out of

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there, you are eligible for the AMP certificate.

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lined up with the founder of that and,

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some of the the people involved with that.

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the not too distant future. We we've been

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planning it for three or four months. But,

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yeah, I wanna sit down and interview those

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guys because that is, quite the the program

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they have over there. And what's really cool

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about Legacy Aviation is on top of that,

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they're also, donating the office space and meeting

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area for the, local experimental aircraft association and

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the local civil air patrol. And they're right

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on the airport. They have a hangar. They

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have, well, actually, I think they have I

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wanna say it's a seven twenty seven aircraft

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that's up in, Oscoda at the, the old

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Air Force Base up there, the old Wurtsmith

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Air Force Base. And there's a huge maintenance

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facility up there, and Evergreen Airlines is up

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there or or at least part of them

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is up there. There's a big seven forty

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seven engine, facility up there. Just just a

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lot, you know, a lot of aviation stuff

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over there in Oscoda on that old airbase.

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it's a seven twenty seven. One of their

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one of its engines is, in the hangar

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over at Legacy. And, yeah, that's really quite

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the facility. And, you know, when the kids

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graduate that, they graduate with a a toolbox,

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you know, all donated and or paid for

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by, you know, the tool manufacturers and, you

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know, all this all the stuff they need

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to do to to, become an aircraft mechanic.

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And there's a big shortage in aircraft maintenance,

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both for, you know, airlines and and military

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even, you know, higher civilian mechanics. Although I

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don't believe they have to have their AMP

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license to to work on military aircraft because

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I didn't. I never got the AMP. But,

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but I was military too. So I I

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don't know what the requirements are for that.

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But, yeah, legacy is quite the outfit. They

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would give us an extra room there in,

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the EAA, and we have a simulator room.

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We have one, two, three, four, five five

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simulator setups in there for a flight sim,

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different versions of it or whatever, but they're

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really pretty nice simulators. You know, they have

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the throttle quadrants or rudder rudder pedals, either

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a stick or or a yoke, all on

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the desk and everything. And they can all

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be tied together, and some of the controllers

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from Traverse City come over and pretend to

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be controllers, when the kids are are flying

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and mostly kids, but I I played with

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them too. I don't like to use the

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SIM all that much because it gives me

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bad habits in the real airplane. So, you

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know, but it's it's still pretty good and

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pretty realistic. And then they have a, motion

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SIM in another room over there at Legacy,

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you know, where I mean, it isn't one

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of those full motion ones, but it's, close

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enough, and they wear the VR goggles. It's

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it's pretty intense flying those things, and, that's

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pretty cool. But, yeah, Legacy is, is a

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relatively new startup, and, they're doing good. A

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lot of benefactors around here, got that going.

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And like I said, we'll be talking to

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some of them, in a future episode, not

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during NAPOD, POMO. But, yeah. If you wanna

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learn to fly, you can come to Traverse

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City to do it. If you wanna be

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an airline pilot, go to nmc. You wanna

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just do it for fun, do, giving wings.

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pilot, it's a little cheaper to go to

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giving wings, to get up to a certain

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level. But to go get your multi and

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and a few other things, you gotta go

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over to NMC or somewhere else. There's also

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a relatively new flight school, and I don't

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have great big details on it over at

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Cadillac Airport, which is about, well, driving about

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an hour south about fifteen minutes by air.

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They go down there and shoot touch and

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goes once in a while when they're not

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busy. But, there's a relatively new one going

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on down there. I saw it on Facebook,

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So I don't really know much about it,

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but, that's another option for those that wanna

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learn to fly. And then, there's a guy

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that does seaplane training. And, like I said,

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I don't have any great big details, but

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he does it over on Silver Lake over

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close to Traverse City. And, I could probably

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get the guy's name and phone number if

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you're interested in in pursuing a seaplane rating.

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your private pilot's license before starting with him.

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I don't think he does any initial training.

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But, again, you know, like I said, that's

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not really a school. That's just a a

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dude in an airplane. And I told you

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I was gonna talk about helicopters. Well, there's

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no real helicopter school here, but the US

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Coast Guard air station is here. And a

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lot of the students not students. A lot

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of the coast guardsmen, you know, let's say

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they because they all go to helicopter school,

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Fort Rucker, Alabama. That's the big army school

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and even the air force sends pretty much

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everybody there to get their initial helicopter training

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and then they go out to their individual

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services. Now I know the Coast Guard's really

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big air stations, Elizabeth City, North Carolina, I

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believe. But, pretty much everybody in the Coast

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Guard and aviation cycles through Traverse City at

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some point. And they do a lot of

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training and not initial training or anything like

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that. You know, a lot of it is

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just, you know, training people to fly the

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h sixties, which is what they have up

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here. And, you know, I I hear them

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a lot on the scanner. I I'm lucky.

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I live right near the airport here, and

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I've got, you know, my ham radio set

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up. And and on my ham radio set

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up and a scanner, I can listen to

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air traffic control. In fact, I wrote the

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book on it, flight radio. I think it's

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mostly out of print now, but it was

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available on Amazon. I don't know. I keep

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getting little tiny royalty checks once in a

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while, but, anyway, it is out there. It's

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a re a book called Flight Radio. Basically,

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it's just how to listen to airplanes on

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a scanner, or on a, you know, whatever.

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But now, you know, there's, there's live a

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t c dot com where you can stream

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it from all over the world. So, you

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know, most people just do that. But, you

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know, some of us still listen to it.

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I can hear, you know, I can hear

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hear the people on the ground. I can

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hear people in the air. I can, you

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know, hear most of what goes on around

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here as far as air traffic. And a

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lot of times, the coast guard will be

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out there, you know, doing auto rotations and

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pattern work in the helicopters and, you know,

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full run on landings and just, you know,

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obvious training. And also the, North Flight, I

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guess it's called still, but the local air

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ambulance outfit. They have a King Air and

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a and a, s seventy six helicopter. Anyway,

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sometimes you'll hear them out training, but they're

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just doing that for, currency. It's not really

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a school. But, anyway, that's, that's really about

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it. But what I got about the, the

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training in schools here in Traverse City and

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and all that, Like I said, if you

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wanna learn to fly, it's not a bad

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place to do it. It's just in the

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winter, you're gonna have a little challenge with

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the weather. Like, when I'm training, it's, always,

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you know, summertime, springtime, fall, and, you know,

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maybe go for a flight in the winter

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if you get a really nice day or

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something like that. But, again, I'm a fair

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weather pilot, so I'm not gonna go when

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it's crappy. I'd rather be sitting here wishing

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I was flying than up there wishing I

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wasn't. So with that, tomorrow's episode, I'm gonna

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talk about some of the other airports around

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here. Why not? Since, it's my show. Anyway,