WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.159 - Well, thank you very much, and we're thrilled 2 00:00:02.159 --> 00:00:03.299 - to be joined by 3 00:00:03.679 --> 00:00:04.980 - one of the most successful 4 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:07.700 - business leaders and people 5 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:09.220 - anywhere in the country. 6 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:10.980 - Whether it's technology, 7 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:13.679 - no matter what business you're talking about, there's 8 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:16.954 - really nobody quite like him. Michael Dell, very 9 00:00:16.954 --> 00:00:18.875 - much of a legend who's here with his 10 00:00:18.875 --> 00:00:22.015 - really exciting announcement. It's, so amazing. 11 00:00:25.515 --> 00:00:27.135 - When I was a young boy, 12 00:00:27.675 --> 00:00:29.239 - there wasn't any Internet. 13 00:00:30.100 --> 00:00:32.520 - There wasn't any World Wide Web. 14 00:00:34.659 --> 00:00:37.939 - There wasn't any egghead sending you texts saying 15 00:00:37.939 --> 00:00:39.299 - those are the same thing. You don't have 16 00:00:39.299 --> 00:00:41.380 - to say Internet and World Wide Web. They're 17 00:00:41.380 --> 00:00:42.104 - the same thing. 18 00:00:44.024 --> 00:00:46.344 - There weren't any video games when I was 19 00:00:46.344 --> 00:00:46.924 - a boy. 20 00:00:47.864 --> 00:00:49.004 - Well, there was Pac 21 00:00:49.384 --> 00:00:51.164 - Man. That was a game, I guess. 22 00:00:52.024 --> 00:00:52.924 - And Asteroids, 23 00:00:54.024 --> 00:00:55.420 - Wizard of War, 24 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:58.600 - Scrambled. Defender was a hell of a lot 25 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.179 - of fun. 26 00:00:59.879 --> 00:01:01.420 - Those were what we called 27 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:02.859 - video games. 28 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:05.819 - Did I say we didn't have video games? 29 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:07.659 - Because that would have been a mistake. 30 00:01:08.825 --> 00:01:11.084 - But there is one thing you have now 31 00:01:11.385 --> 00:01:13.545 - that we didn't have when I was a 32 00:01:13.545 --> 00:01:15.405 - boy that I wish we did. 33 00:01:17.144 --> 00:01:18.444 - Like Dell's World. 34 00:01:19.625 --> 00:01:21.004 - Yeah. That's me. 35 00:01:22.825 --> 00:01:23.325 - Hey. 36 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.340 - You guys still subscribed? Hey. Appreciate it. 37 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:27.859 - So, 38 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:31.459 - yeah, it's been an interesting year so far 39 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:32.659 - for sure. 40 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.899 - Not as interesting as last year, but still 41 00:01:37.039 --> 00:01:38.259 - the same. So 42 00:01:39.034 --> 00:01:39.674 - I guess, 43 00:01:40.075 --> 00:01:42.575 - I got two major topics tonight. 44 00:01:44.155 --> 00:01:44.895 - One being 45 00:01:45.755 --> 00:01:46.255 - that 46 00:01:48.395 --> 00:01:49.215 - there's there's 47 00:01:49.594 --> 00:01:51.935 - something going on in technology, 48 00:01:52.395 --> 00:01:54.689 - and I and I don't mean, you 49 00:01:55.390 --> 00:01:56.689 - know, computer processors 50 00:01:56.990 --> 00:01:58.049 - and hard drives 51 00:01:58.670 --> 00:02:00.370 - and that kind of thing. But 52 00:02:00.829 --> 00:02:03.549 - a lot of stuff in, you know, just 53 00:02:03.549 --> 00:02:04.049 - basically, 54 00:02:05.390 --> 00:02:08.270 - you know, how tech works and, you know, 55 00:02:08.270 --> 00:02:09.504 - what tech 56 00:02:12.205 --> 00:02:13.504 - is used for, 57 00:02:15.245 --> 00:02:15.745 - and, 58 00:02:16.365 --> 00:02:18.764 - you know, just my normal rant. And, plus, 59 00:02:18.764 --> 00:02:19.745 - you know, I got some 60 00:02:20.284 --> 00:02:21.344 - personal updates. 61 00:02:21.805 --> 00:02:23.264 - Yeah. That's always fun. 62 00:02:23.724 --> 00:02:24.224 - But, 63 00:02:25.009 --> 00:02:27.409 - yeah, it's true. You know, life goes on. 64 00:02:27.409 --> 00:02:28.150 - Life is 65 00:02:28.849 --> 00:02:30.150 - interesting. Of course, 66 00:02:30.530 --> 00:02:31.810 - the last time I talked to you in 67 00:02:31.810 --> 00:02:33.830 - February, I was complaining about 68 00:02:34.849 --> 00:02:36.709 - customer service. Well, 69 00:02:37.194 --> 00:02:39.215 - yeah, that that hasn't really changed. 70 00:02:39.754 --> 00:02:41.835 - You know, a lot of customer service stuff 71 00:02:41.835 --> 00:02:42.314 - isn't, 72 00:02:44.074 --> 00:02:45.995 - isn't that great. But, you know, let's get 73 00:02:45.995 --> 00:02:48.014 - back to the personal updates. 74 00:02:50.370 --> 00:02:52.290 - I mean, there's a lot to tell, and 75 00:02:52.290 --> 00:02:53.569 - there's not a lot to tell. 76 00:02:54.129 --> 00:02:57.409 - Unfortunately, I've been to now three funerals in 77 00:02:57.409 --> 00:02:58.550 - the last six months, 78 00:02:59.409 --> 00:03:02.050 - or two. I'm about to go to another 79 00:03:02.050 --> 00:03:02.790 - one in 80 00:03:03.485 --> 00:03:05.424 - in, Detroit this weekend, 81 00:03:05.965 --> 00:03:06.465 - but 82 00:03:07.884 --> 00:03:09.965 - it's neither here nor there. Of course, you 83 00:03:09.965 --> 00:03:10.465 - know, 84 00:03:10.844 --> 00:03:11.344 - my, 85 00:03:12.125 --> 00:03:15.424 - founder of Blueberry, Todd Cochran, he passed away, 86 00:03:15.884 --> 00:03:19.010 - late, you know, last late summer, early fall, 87 00:03:19.710 --> 00:03:21.550 - you know, which you guys know all about 88 00:03:21.550 --> 00:03:23.550 - or might know all about or don't know 89 00:03:23.550 --> 00:03:25.010 - all about. I don't know, 90 00:03:25.469 --> 00:03:27.969 - but it just seems recent enough to include. 91 00:03:28.030 --> 00:03:28.689 - And then 92 00:03:29.165 --> 00:03:30.545 - my wife's best friend, 93 00:03:31.325 --> 00:03:31.825 - Mary, 94 00:03:32.284 --> 00:03:33.585 - down in Grand Haven 95 00:03:33.965 --> 00:03:34.784 - passed away. 96 00:03:35.885 --> 00:03:37.564 - And that was kind of a shocker because 97 00:03:37.564 --> 00:03:39.425 - she's younger than us. And 98 00:03:40.205 --> 00:03:40.705 - but, 99 00:03:41.349 --> 00:03:44.169 - yeah, she was not in good shape and 100 00:03:44.469 --> 00:03:44.969 - finally 101 00:03:46.069 --> 00:03:47.290 - succumbed to 102 00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:48.629 - to, 103 00:03:49.110 --> 00:03:50.650 - lung problems mainly. 104 00:03:51.270 --> 00:03:53.210 - But, again, you know, that's 105 00:03:55.324 --> 00:03:57.324 - it's one of those things, but, man, it's 106 00:03:57.324 --> 00:03:59.724 - just, you know, wow. Well, you know, somebody 107 00:03:59.724 --> 00:04:00.784 - younger than you 108 00:04:01.884 --> 00:04:04.764 - passes away like that. It's, it's a little 109 00:04:04.764 --> 00:04:06.924 - bit of a shocker. Plus, of course, like 110 00:04:06.924 --> 00:04:08.544 - I said, my wife's best friend 111 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:10.560 - or one of her best friends. She has 112 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:11.919 - several best friends, but, 113 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.879 - I think Mary was probably right up there 114 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:15.939 - at the top of the list. 115 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:18.740 - And so that was a little rough. 116 00:04:19.520 --> 00:04:21.379 - Kathy spent most of February 117 00:04:22.425 --> 00:04:23.084 - and March, 118 00:04:24.264 --> 00:04:27.064 - going back and forth downstate and, you know, 119 00:04:27.064 --> 00:04:28.925 - helping the family out and 120 00:04:29.384 --> 00:04:30.764 - and all that. And then, 121 00:04:31.625 --> 00:04:33.384 - a couple weeks ago, we had an 80 122 00:04:33.384 --> 00:04:35.084 - birthday party for my uncle, 123 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:37.220 - Bill Busby. 124 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.939 - He was instrumental in starting Motorola Semiconductors 125 00:04:42.479 --> 00:04:43.539 - back in the day. 126 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.039 - And, anyway, we had his 80 birthday out 127 00:04:47.039 --> 00:04:48.720 - at my mom's house. He was doing pretty 128 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:49.220 - good. 129 00:04:50.475 --> 00:04:54.014 - Monday morning, he passed away, in his sleep 130 00:04:54.155 --> 00:04:54.655 - or 131 00:04:55.595 --> 00:04:57.915 - soon after waking up or something. I, you 132 00:04:57.915 --> 00:04:58.415 - know, 133 00:04:58.715 --> 00:05:00.655 - I guess I don't know all the details, 134 00:05:00.715 --> 00:05:03.514 - but, he was 88 years old and, had 135 00:05:03.514 --> 00:05:05.750 - a really good run. So you know, he 136 00:05:05.750 --> 00:05:07.430 - was in really good shape, 137 00:05:07.910 --> 00:05:10.250 - you know, up until towards the last year. 138 00:05:11.589 --> 00:05:13.610 - He had a little, cancer issues. 139 00:05:14.949 --> 00:05:15.449 - So 140 00:05:16.149 --> 00:05:18.225 - and, you know, was fighting it, I guess, 141 00:05:18.384 --> 00:05:20.305 - okay or, you know, I don't know. I 142 00:05:20.305 --> 00:05:21.845 - guess the treatments really took 143 00:05:22.625 --> 00:05:24.705 - some oomph out of him. But, yeah, last 144 00:05:24.705 --> 00:05:27.365 - summer, he helped me move a couple campers, 145 00:05:27.985 --> 00:05:30.064 - rode with me in the truck and, you 146 00:05:30.064 --> 00:05:31.824 - know, helped out and, you know, had a 147 00:05:31.824 --> 00:05:34.370 - nice conversation. So I was glad to have 148 00:05:35.389 --> 00:05:36.990 - that, that going on. He was also a 149 00:05:36.990 --> 00:05:38.290 - US Air Force veteran, 150 00:05:39.230 --> 00:05:41.410 - crew chief on the, b 151 00:05:41.710 --> 00:05:43.170 - 57, 152 00:05:43.389 --> 00:05:46.050 - I wanna say, or b 58. 153 00:05:46.935 --> 00:05:48.534 - Might be the b 58. 154 00:05:48.534 --> 00:05:50.534 - I don't remember. One of the one of 155 00:05:50.534 --> 00:05:51.514 - the fast bombers, 156 00:05:52.615 --> 00:05:54.555 - from, you know, fifty, sixties. 157 00:05:55.094 --> 00:05:55.594 - And, 158 00:05:56.615 --> 00:05:58.534 - anyway, he passed away, so we're going down, 159 00:05:58.774 --> 00:06:00.634 - to the Detroit area for 160 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:02.779 - for a funeral on Saturday. 161 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:05.100 - And, ironically, 162 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:06.600 - my 98 163 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.240 - soon to be 99 year old grandmother's riding 164 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.819 - with me, so that'll be interesting. 165 00:06:14.324 --> 00:06:16.884 - And as far as the the health stuff 166 00:06:16.884 --> 00:06:18.504 - goes, I, about 167 00:06:19.365 --> 00:06:20.745 - a little over a week ago, 168 00:06:22.245 --> 00:06:24.504 - developed a torn retina 169 00:06:25.589 --> 00:06:26.089 - in 170 00:06:27.029 --> 00:06:29.430 - my right eye and had to go in 171 00:06:29.430 --> 00:06:29.930 - for 172 00:06:31.110 --> 00:06:35.350 - emergency surgery to repair that. So, it it's 173 00:06:35.350 --> 00:06:36.649 - been a bit of a recovery 174 00:06:37.029 --> 00:06:38.889 - because the first week I had to 175 00:06:39.314 --> 00:06:41.634 - be face down. You know, they put a 176 00:06:41.634 --> 00:06:43.415 - bubble in your eye and you gotta 177 00:06:44.194 --> 00:06:45.555 - keep your face down to, 178 00:06:46.835 --> 00:06:49.475 - to hold everything in place while it heals. 179 00:06:49.475 --> 00:06:52.410 - But, I just had my second post surgery 180 00:06:52.470 --> 00:06:54.889 - checkup today, and everything's looking good. 181 00:06:55.509 --> 00:06:58.009 - And I can, function more or less normally. 182 00:06:59.350 --> 00:07:01.830 - The vision in that eye isn't quite up 183 00:07:01.830 --> 00:07:04.069 - to par, again, because they put an oil 184 00:07:04.069 --> 00:07:05.449 - bubble in there. So 185 00:07:05.805 --> 00:07:07.884 - that's a little weird. It kinda looks like, 186 00:07:07.884 --> 00:07:08.785 - you know, when people, 187 00:07:09.404 --> 00:07:10.705 - blur their zoom background 188 00:07:11.725 --> 00:07:14.524 - on camera, well, that's what I see in 189 00:07:14.524 --> 00:07:16.845 - the foreground as well with that eye. But, 190 00:07:17.485 --> 00:07:19.379 - twenty twenty in the other eye, so 191 00:07:19.939 --> 00:07:21.560 - we're we're highly functional. 192 00:07:23.379 --> 00:07:25.860 - And he tells me once that, oil bubbles 193 00:07:25.860 --> 00:07:26.680 - out of there, 194 00:07:27.540 --> 00:07:30.020 - vision should clear up just fine. So that 195 00:07:30.020 --> 00:07:33.139 - also has me grounded for probably the next 196 00:07:33.139 --> 00:07:34.600 - six weeks or so, 197 00:07:35.764 --> 00:07:37.845 - which I guess is alright. It's cheaper not 198 00:07:37.845 --> 00:07:40.004 - to fly than it is to fly, and 199 00:07:40.004 --> 00:07:41.365 - I don't have anywhere to go in an 200 00:07:41.365 --> 00:07:41.865 - airliner. 201 00:07:42.884 --> 00:07:43.384 - So 202 00:07:43.845 --> 00:07:44.345 - that's 203 00:07:45.044 --> 00:07:46.024 - that's a thing. 204 00:07:48.180 --> 00:07:49.860 - Sorry. I had to hit the cough button 205 00:07:49.860 --> 00:07:50.360 - there. 206 00:07:50.980 --> 00:07:51.480 - Kinda 207 00:07:52.020 --> 00:07:54.279 - not fighting off. I think I'm just kinda 208 00:07:54.420 --> 00:07:57.080 - having lingering crud because all, 209 00:07:58.500 --> 00:08:00.339 - over the last month or so, I've had 210 00:08:00.339 --> 00:08:01.480 - kind of a low level, 211 00:08:02.214 --> 00:08:03.514 - cold going on. 212 00:08:04.134 --> 00:08:07.115 - Whatever that bug was is, taking its time 213 00:08:07.175 --> 00:08:07.675 - leaving. 214 00:08:08.455 --> 00:08:08.955 - But, 215 00:08:09.814 --> 00:08:11.435 - I don't know. A couple weeks before, 216 00:08:13.095 --> 00:08:14.235 - I don't know. I guess 217 00:08:15.014 --> 00:08:16.394 - the middle of last month 218 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:17.699 - went down to 219 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:19.860 - Arlington, Texas 220 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.379 - and participated in the military creator con. 221 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:24.800 - That was quite, 222 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.720 - quite a nice outfit. You know, couple 300, 223 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:30.419 - I guess, 400 people 224 00:08:30.914 --> 00:08:34.134 - came to that, all veterans or active military 225 00:08:34.434 --> 00:08:34.934 - or, 226 00:08:36.274 --> 00:08:37.815 - you know, military spouses, 227 00:08:38.754 --> 00:08:41.495 - you know, all talking about, you know, creating 228 00:08:41.554 --> 00:08:42.695 - YouTubes and 229 00:08:44.195 --> 00:08:45.654 - and podcasts and 230 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.540 - authoring books and starting businesses. 231 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:49.500 - And, 232 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:51.960 - yeah, it was, it was quite nice, and 233 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:53.399 - I knew a lot more people there than 234 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:54.379 - I thought I would 235 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:55.500 - when I went. 236 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:57.100 - Jamie Jay, 237 00:08:58.120 --> 00:08:59.419 - and Christopher Lochhead, 238 00:09:01.595 --> 00:09:02.894 - Gordon Firemark. 239 00:09:03.754 --> 00:09:05.454 - He's the podcast lawyer. 240 00:09:06.394 --> 00:09:07.294 - He was there. 241 00:09:08.154 --> 00:09:08.815 - Of course, 242 00:09:10.475 --> 00:09:13.054 - the creators of military creator con, 243 00:09:15.110 --> 00:09:17.370 - and I'm drawing a blank on the name 244 00:09:17.990 --> 00:09:19.209 - the names. But, 245 00:09:19.589 --> 00:09:21.929 - anyway, it was, it was definitely a fun 246 00:09:21.990 --> 00:09:24.070 - event. It was one of those events, though, 247 00:09:24.070 --> 00:09:26.389 - that had something scheduled from eight in the 248 00:09:26.389 --> 00:09:29.429 - morning till eleven at night, all three days. 249 00:09:29.429 --> 00:09:29.929 - And 250 00:09:30.384 --> 00:09:32.384 - so it was quite busy. Didn't get a 251 00:09:32.384 --> 00:09:33.345 - lot of chance to, 252 00:09:33.985 --> 00:09:37.105 - do anything other than event related stuff, but, 253 00:09:37.424 --> 00:09:38.485 - it was all good. 254 00:09:39.424 --> 00:09:39.924 - And 255 00:09:40.304 --> 00:09:42.964 - yeah. So that was that was fun. 256 00:09:43.824 --> 00:09:45.044 - I've since got 257 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.000 - gotten promoted at, 258 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:48.220 - Blueberry. 259 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:49.980 - I'm now the 260 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:51.659 - VP of operations, 261 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:53.740 - so I kinda 262 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:57.019 - oversee the, the teams, 263 00:09:57.639 --> 00:09:59.179 - working together and 264 00:09:59.875 --> 00:10:01.315 - and do a lot of the day to 265 00:10:01.315 --> 00:10:02.115 - day stuff. 266 00:10:02.434 --> 00:10:04.134 - Also, you know, external 267 00:10:07.074 --> 00:10:08.934 - external industry connections 268 00:10:09.315 --> 00:10:11.394 - and and all the stuff. A lot of 269 00:10:11.394 --> 00:10:12.774 - the stuff that Todd did 270 00:10:13.954 --> 00:10:14.694 - as CEO, 271 00:10:16.410 --> 00:10:16.910 - but 272 00:10:17.370 --> 00:10:19.629 - without the title. So that's okay. 273 00:10:20.330 --> 00:10:23.370 - You know, our CEO now is, or one 274 00:10:23.370 --> 00:10:24.429 - of our other cofounders, 275 00:10:25.129 --> 00:10:26.190 - Barry. He's 276 00:10:26.809 --> 00:10:27.309 - he's 277 00:10:27.785 --> 00:10:29.305 - doing pretty good at that. 278 00:10:29.785 --> 00:10:32.925 - Trying to keep the, cats all herded up. 279 00:10:33.865 --> 00:10:36.684 - So we're we're doing okay over at Blueberry. 280 00:10:37.065 --> 00:10:37.965 - That is good. 281 00:10:38.985 --> 00:10:40.504 - So, yeah. Not, 282 00:10:41.090 --> 00:10:42.809 - not complaining at all. It's a it's a 283 00:10:42.809 --> 00:10:44.070 - it's a bit more work, 284 00:10:44.610 --> 00:10:45.750 - a bit more responsibility, 285 00:10:47.169 --> 00:10:47.990 - and definitely 286 00:10:49.009 --> 00:10:51.590 - feel a lot more hands on now, 287 00:10:52.210 --> 00:10:52.710 - than 288 00:10:53.330 --> 00:10:54.870 - than in the past. So 289 00:10:55.504 --> 00:10:57.764 - if you are a podcaster and 290 00:10:59.345 --> 00:11:01.904 - and want to start a podcast, move a 291 00:11:01.904 --> 00:11:04.705 - podcast, whatever, get a hold of me, and, 292 00:11:04.945 --> 00:11:06.084 - we'll make it happen. 293 00:11:07.105 --> 00:11:09.024 - We've got all the all the tools you 294 00:11:09.024 --> 00:11:11.070 - need over there. I'll make this a commercial 295 00:11:11.070 --> 00:11:13.330 - for my employee or employer, 296 00:11:14.830 --> 00:11:15.330 - but, 297 00:11:15.710 --> 00:11:16.210 - hey, 298 00:11:16.670 --> 00:11:18.750 - it's all part of it. And, of course, 299 00:11:18.750 --> 00:11:21.410 - I use Blueberry hosting for this show 300 00:11:22.190 --> 00:11:24.990 - and PowerPress plug in and, you know, all 301 00:11:24.990 --> 00:11:25.809 - the stuff. 302 00:11:27.414 --> 00:11:29.274 - So and and speaking of technology, 303 00:11:30.694 --> 00:11:32.534 - you know, I I had a whole thing 304 00:11:32.534 --> 00:11:35.735 - I spun up, you know, about, you know, 305 00:11:35.735 --> 00:11:36.714 - doing an episode, 306 00:11:38.294 --> 00:11:40.620 - all about, you know, the different scams out 307 00:11:40.620 --> 00:11:42.139 - there and all that. But, you know, I 308 00:11:42.139 --> 00:11:44.000 - think it's a bigger problem than that. 309 00:11:45.019 --> 00:11:46.000 - Of course, there's 310 00:11:46.860 --> 00:11:49.279 - what a lot of people call AI slop 311 00:11:50.860 --> 00:11:53.519 - out there, and AI is really, 312 00:11:53.884 --> 00:11:56.845 - really, really good at what it's really, really 313 00:11:56.845 --> 00:11:57.585 - good at, 314 00:11:58.365 --> 00:12:00.225 - but it's not good at everything. 315 00:12:01.004 --> 00:12:03.345 - And, also, you know, AI created 316 00:12:06.040 --> 00:12:06.540 - content. 317 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:08.679 - I don't know if you watch a lot 318 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:10.200 - of YouTube. I tend to watch a lot 319 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:12.120 - of YouTube. I consider that kind of my 320 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.000 - main TV. I don't really watch a whole 321 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.460 - lot of regular mainstream TV or streaming, 322 00:12:20.325 --> 00:12:22.565 - streaming TV or or anything like that. You 323 00:12:22.565 --> 00:12:24.264 - know, I watch a few things, obviously. 324 00:12:24.644 --> 00:12:25.544 - Star Trek, 325 00:12:26.485 --> 00:12:28.884 - kind of, like, you know, having all those 326 00:12:28.884 --> 00:12:30.745 - available on Paramount. And 327 00:12:31.125 --> 00:12:32.884 - and, you know, my wife and I usually 328 00:12:32.884 --> 00:12:34.264 - pick some sort of 329 00:12:34.990 --> 00:12:38.450 - series to watch or rewatch on Netflix 330 00:12:39.309 --> 00:12:42.029 - or something like that. Currently in the middle 331 00:12:42.029 --> 00:12:43.649 - of watching The Blacklist. 332 00:12:44.029 --> 00:12:45.649 - That's a interesting show. 333 00:12:46.269 --> 00:12:48.430 - A little gory. Kinda surprised it was on 334 00:12:48.430 --> 00:12:49.570 - NBC, but, 335 00:12:49.934 --> 00:12:50.434 - hey. 336 00:12:50.815 --> 00:12:52.254 - You know, it's a it's a it's a 337 00:12:52.254 --> 00:12:53.634 - pretty compelling show. 338 00:12:55.375 --> 00:12:56.995 - But, you know, I 339 00:12:57.455 --> 00:12:58.595 - tend to avoid 340 00:12:59.134 --> 00:13:01.294 - things that have a lot of advertising if 341 00:13:01.294 --> 00:13:01.875 - I can. 342 00:13:02.750 --> 00:13:03.809 - Yeah. You know, you 343 00:13:04.269 --> 00:13:06.589 - still get advertising, you know, even on YouTube 344 00:13:06.589 --> 00:13:08.750 - channels. I pay YouTube so I don't have 345 00:13:08.750 --> 00:13:10.129 - to watch all the 346 00:13:10.509 --> 00:13:11.649 - the, poorly 347 00:13:11.950 --> 00:13:15.070 - injected ads that, they throw in there at 348 00:13:15.070 --> 00:13:16.529 - exactly the wrong time. 349 00:13:16.914 --> 00:13:18.595 - But, you know, there's a lot of ads 350 00:13:18.595 --> 00:13:19.095 - that 351 00:13:19.875 --> 00:13:22.355 - are done by the creators. That's fine with 352 00:13:22.355 --> 00:13:24.355 - me. But, you know, when you're flipping through 353 00:13:24.355 --> 00:13:24.855 - YouTube, 354 00:13:25.315 --> 00:13:26.995 - you could get on to oh, this looks 355 00:13:26.995 --> 00:13:29.235 - interesting, and you hits, you know, hit the 356 00:13:29.235 --> 00:13:30.855 - button to play it. And 357 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:32.059 - you you 358 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.059 - get what's obviously an AI narrated 359 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.240 - slideshow is is what I equate it to, 360 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.259 - or maybe they might have real video, 361 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:42.379 - something 362 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:44.299 - like that. And, 363 00:13:45.495 --> 00:13:47.495 - you know, it's not that I don't wanna 364 00:13:47.495 --> 00:13:49.195 - watch it. Some of it's really compelling. 365 00:13:51.175 --> 00:13:52.134 - Well, here's my 366 00:13:52.535 --> 00:13:54.634 - I I wouldn't call it a secret because 367 00:13:54.855 --> 00:13:56.634 - I talk about it, but 368 00:13:57.095 --> 00:13:57.995 - there's definitely 369 00:13:58.455 --> 00:13:59.595 - a lot of, 370 00:14:01.269 --> 00:14:03.190 - or def how should I say it? I 371 00:14:03.190 --> 00:14:05.450 - I definitely like one one type of 372 00:14:05.830 --> 00:14:08.009 - AI content that I actually enjoy. 373 00:14:08.629 --> 00:14:09.129 - It's 374 00:14:09.509 --> 00:14:11.610 - kind of my my dirty pleasure, 375 00:14:12.389 --> 00:14:13.370 - but I watch 376 00:14:13.715 --> 00:14:16.455 - or listen to mostly even though it is 377 00:14:16.595 --> 00:14:18.215 - a YouTube video. 378 00:14:19.315 --> 00:14:20.934 - AOA Karen stories. 379 00:14:21.394 --> 00:14:21.894 - I 380 00:14:22.355 --> 00:14:23.815 - know that sounds crazy, 381 00:14:24.915 --> 00:14:25.415 - but, 382 00:14:26.019 --> 00:14:28.419 - yeah, they're oddly compelling, so I do watch 383 00:14:28.419 --> 00:14:30.899 - it. But I know full well it's 100% 384 00:14:30.899 --> 00:14:31.399 - AI, 385 00:14:32.100 --> 00:14:32.600 - and 386 00:14:33.779 --> 00:14:34.600 - that's fine. 387 00:14:35.299 --> 00:14:36.100 - But I did, 388 00:14:36.980 --> 00:14:39.799 - just now or not just now, just tonight, 389 00:14:41.565 --> 00:14:43.184 - see an article over at MacRumors 390 00:14:44.445 --> 00:14:46.225 - that YouTube will now automatically 391 00:14:46.605 --> 00:14:47.664 - label AI 392 00:14:48.125 --> 00:14:48.625 - videos 393 00:14:49.164 --> 00:14:50.865 - even when creators don't. 394 00:14:52.044 --> 00:14:54.605 - So apparently, and I haven't seen this yet, 395 00:14:54.605 --> 00:14:56.799 - but in YouTube, it's gonna be, 396 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:58.740 - marked as an AI 397 00:14:59.120 --> 00:14:59.620 - creation. 398 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.580 - So I I applaud them for that because 399 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:03.940 - I'm gonna guess 400 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.139 - that the vast majority, 401 00:15:09.514 --> 00:15:11.794 - of views on YouTube are going to switch 402 00:15:11.794 --> 00:15:12.534 - to the 403 00:15:12.914 --> 00:15:13.414 - non 404 00:15:14.355 --> 00:15:15.414 - AI stuff. 405 00:15:16.595 --> 00:15:18.274 - You know? I I know I'm gonna I 406 00:15:18.355 --> 00:15:20.514 - I'm not gonna totally avoid it because some 407 00:15:20.514 --> 00:15:22.215 - of it is actually pretty good. 408 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:23.539 - But 409 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.120 - if I have a a video on sub 410 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:28.100 - on a subject 411 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:29.460 - I want to 412 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:32.019 - watch or listen to 413 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:33.860 - on YouTube, 414 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:35.539 - and there's 415 00:15:35.934 --> 00:15:37.774 - two. One of them is AI generated, and 416 00:15:37.774 --> 00:15:39.695 - one of them isn't. I'm probably gonna lean 417 00:15:39.695 --> 00:15:41.875 - towards the non AI generated 418 00:15:43.375 --> 00:15:43.875 - one. 419 00:15:46.175 --> 00:15:48.035 - And that kind of brings me to 420 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:49.100 - podcasting, 421 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.460 - in general as well. There are a lot 422 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.620 - of AI voiced podcasts. 423 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:56.220 - And 424 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.159 - let's let's let's get one thing off the 425 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:02.519 - table here. Yes. I know podcast can be 426 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:03.784 - video. That 427 00:16:04.245 --> 00:16:04.985 - is a, 428 00:16:06.164 --> 00:16:07.065 - that's just true. 429 00:16:07.444 --> 00:16:09.444 - That's okay. It's been that way since the 430 00:16:09.444 --> 00:16:09.944 - beginning. 431 00:16:10.324 --> 00:16:12.884 - But just having a YouTube channel does not 432 00:16:12.884 --> 00:16:13.384 - necessarily 433 00:16:13.924 --> 00:16:18.039 - constitute a podcast. A podcast is a distribution 434 00:16:18.259 --> 00:16:19.639 - method and not necessarily 435 00:16:20.820 --> 00:16:21.480 - a genre. 436 00:16:22.259 --> 00:16:24.100 - So we'll just get that off the table. 437 00:16:24.100 --> 00:16:25.539 - When I talk when I say the word 438 00:16:25.539 --> 00:16:27.879 - podcast, I mean generally audio. 439 00:16:29.045 --> 00:16:30.644 - But there's a, you know, a lot of 440 00:16:30.644 --> 00:16:31.625 - AI generated 441 00:16:32.325 --> 00:16:32.825 - audio 442 00:16:33.205 --> 00:16:35.925 - podcasts, and some of them are really quite 443 00:16:35.925 --> 00:16:36.425 - clever. 444 00:16:36.965 --> 00:16:37.865 - You know, I 445 00:16:38.485 --> 00:16:39.764 - I I get it. I get why they 446 00:16:39.764 --> 00:16:40.745 - wanna do it. 447 00:16:41.190 --> 00:16:43.190 - But there's a a company out there called 448 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:43.690 - Inception 449 00:16:44.230 --> 00:16:44.730 - PointAI. 450 00:16:46.870 --> 00:16:49.269 - I believe that's what they're called, and they 451 00:16:49.269 --> 00:16:50.090 - are generating 452 00:16:50.470 --> 00:16:51.529 - an enormous 453 00:16:52.070 --> 00:16:53.210 - amount of 454 00:16:53.750 --> 00:16:54.490 - AI generated 455 00:16:55.214 --> 00:16:56.914 - content on podcasts. 456 00:16:58.014 --> 00:17:00.815 - And they were at Spreaker, and then they 457 00:17:00.815 --> 00:17:02.115 - moved now to, 458 00:17:02.574 --> 00:17:03.714 - well, Spotify, 459 00:17:04.494 --> 00:17:05.554 - but it's Megaphone, 460 00:17:06.174 --> 00:17:07.714 - which is owned by Spotify 461 00:17:08.609 --> 00:17:10.069 - as their hosting platform. 462 00:17:10.369 --> 00:17:12.789 - And and they've taken out the monetization 463 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:15.890 - so far, I I guess. I haven't really 464 00:17:15.890 --> 00:17:17.650 - listened to any of them, but, you know, 465 00:17:17.650 --> 00:17:19.109 - they're actually quite good 466 00:17:19.970 --> 00:17:21.509 - to a point. But 467 00:17:22.125 --> 00:17:24.865 - as AI is good at doing, they hallucinate. 468 00:17:25.164 --> 00:17:26.464 - And a lot of the information 469 00:17:26.765 --> 00:17:27.585 - that is 470 00:17:28.445 --> 00:17:29.825 - put out by it is 471 00:17:30.924 --> 00:17:32.065 - factually untrue 472 00:17:32.445 --> 00:17:32.945 - or, 473 00:17:33.724 --> 00:17:36.380 - you know, something like that. These AI Karen 474 00:17:36.380 --> 00:17:38.079 - stories that I like on YouTube, 475 00:17:38.539 --> 00:17:40.880 - which, like I said, my dirty pleasure, 476 00:17:41.339 --> 00:17:43.259 - whatever. I know they're AI. I know they 477 00:17:43.259 --> 00:17:43.759 - suck, 478 00:17:44.140 --> 00:17:45.440 - but they're mostly fiction, 479 00:17:45.819 --> 00:17:46.960 - and they're not 480 00:17:47.315 --> 00:17:49.174 - reported to be true stories. 481 00:17:49.875 --> 00:17:50.375 - Whereas, 482 00:17:51.234 --> 00:17:53.174 - some of these other podcasts out there 483 00:17:54.994 --> 00:17:57.734 - are reported to be true stories, true shows. 484 00:17:58.755 --> 00:17:59.894 - Again, there's nothing 485 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.140 - inherently wrong with that except for 486 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:06.480 - just the sheer volume of it and they're 487 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:06.980 - not 488 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:08.099 - necessarily 489 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.859 - saying that these are AI generated. Now there's 490 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.619 - sure telltale signs, 491 00:18:13.974 --> 00:18:16.554 - not nearly as many as there once was, 492 00:18:18.134 --> 00:18:20.134 - you know, to tell it it's AI, but, 493 00:18:20.134 --> 00:18:22.294 - you know, and they're like I said, they're 494 00:18:22.294 --> 00:18:24.954 - quite good. The quality is good. The voices 495 00:18:25.014 --> 00:18:27.514 - are good. The inflection they sound 496 00:18:28.019 --> 00:18:29.880 - pretty darn close to human. 497 00:18:31.299 --> 00:18:31.799 - So, 498 00:18:33.460 --> 00:18:35.539 - yeah. So that you know, that's what's kind 499 00:18:35.539 --> 00:18:37.619 - of going on in, you know, with AI 500 00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:40.099 - and podcasting. And, again, you know, I use 501 00:18:40.099 --> 00:18:41.940 - a little AI here and there. I you 502 00:18:41.940 --> 00:18:42.599 - know, my 503 00:18:43.365 --> 00:18:43.865 - artwork 504 00:18:44.565 --> 00:18:45.065 - is 505 00:18:46.484 --> 00:18:48.505 - somewhat AI generated, although 506 00:18:48.805 --> 00:18:51.045 - I did a lot of, tweaking to it. 507 00:18:52.164 --> 00:18:53.684 - I do a lot of tweaking to it, 508 00:18:53.684 --> 00:18:54.825 - so it's not a 509 00:18:55.140 --> 00:18:56.099 - 100% 510 00:18:56.099 --> 00:18:57.400 - AI generated thing. 511 00:18:57.700 --> 00:18:59.859 - I don't use any AI voices except for 512 00:18:59.859 --> 00:19:02.019 - the one episode I did just to try 513 00:19:02.019 --> 00:19:03.700 - it. A couple years ago, I did one 514 00:19:03.700 --> 00:19:06.019 - episode that was all AI. It was a 515 00:19:06.019 --> 00:19:08.944 - clone of my voice, and, it it just 516 00:19:09.404 --> 00:19:11.265 - didn't sound quite right. 517 00:19:12.605 --> 00:19:14.845 - And, you know, AI is getting better all 518 00:19:14.845 --> 00:19:16.924 - the time and, you know, pretty soon we 519 00:19:16.924 --> 00:19:18.605 - may not be able to tell very well. 520 00:19:18.605 --> 00:19:20.365 - But, you know, I could sort of tell. 521 00:19:20.365 --> 00:19:21.825 - And, you know, there's some telltale 522 00:19:22.859 --> 00:19:25.579 - things that AI does when it's writing, you 523 00:19:25.579 --> 00:19:27.259 - know, because, you know, how they do this. 524 00:19:27.259 --> 00:19:29.339 - They write a script and then use AI 525 00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:30.940 - to write the script and then they use 526 00:19:30.940 --> 00:19:32.799 - an AI voice to read the script. 527 00:19:33.579 --> 00:19:36.000 - And so the writing sort of sticks out. 528 00:19:37.285 --> 00:19:38.964 - You know, they always like to say something 529 00:19:38.964 --> 00:19:41.444 - like, not only was it this, it's that 530 00:19:41.444 --> 00:19:44.085 - too. Or not only was it this, it's 531 00:19:44.085 --> 00:19:45.464 - that too. Or in conclusion, 532 00:19:46.325 --> 00:19:48.644 - you know, there's some telltale things you can 533 00:19:48.644 --> 00:19:50.825 - hear in the in the script 534 00:19:51.285 --> 00:19:52.744 - that tells you that it's 535 00:19:53.339 --> 00:19:55.279 - AI. You know, you can hear by my 536 00:19:55.419 --> 00:19:57.980 - little broken delivery here that it's just me 537 00:19:57.980 --> 00:20:00.240 - sitting at the desk talking into a microphone. 538 00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:01.519 - There's no 539 00:20:03.259 --> 00:20:04.799 - hey. Excuse me. No AI, 540 00:20:05.934 --> 00:20:07.375 - involved with this part. 541 00:20:07.695 --> 00:20:10.595 - The transcript, of course, will be AI generated, 542 00:20:11.215 --> 00:20:13.315 - but it just takes what I said and 543 00:20:13.855 --> 00:20:14.674 - types it. 544 00:20:14.975 --> 00:20:16.975 - And that's what it's good at. It's not 545 00:20:16.975 --> 00:20:17.475 - necessarily 546 00:20:17.855 --> 00:20:18.595 - good at 547 00:20:19.140 --> 00:20:20.740 - generating that stuff. And I always like to 548 00:20:20.740 --> 00:20:22.759 - say never ask the AI its opinion. 549 00:20:24.500 --> 00:20:25.160 - You know, 550 00:20:25.460 --> 00:20:25.960 - it's 551 00:20:27.059 --> 00:20:28.119 - it's just weird. 552 00:20:28.740 --> 00:20:29.799 - It's just weird. 553 00:20:30.580 --> 00:20:32.980 - But, and that goes along with the scam 554 00:20:32.980 --> 00:20:33.375 - stuff. 555 00:20:33.934 --> 00:20:35.615 - Used to be it was really easy to 556 00:20:35.615 --> 00:20:36.994 - tell a scam email 557 00:20:37.615 --> 00:20:40.335 - because, generally, it was somebody that English wasn't 558 00:20:40.335 --> 00:20:41.075 - the first 559 00:20:41.694 --> 00:20:42.194 - language 560 00:20:42.894 --> 00:20:44.355 - or their first language. 561 00:20:45.055 --> 00:20:46.275 - So they would, 562 00:20:46.940 --> 00:20:49.759 - you know, misspell things, use weird grammar, 563 00:20:50.059 --> 00:20:52.880 - all that. Well, with now these large language 564 00:20:52.940 --> 00:20:55.279 - models, that's exactly what they do right 565 00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:57.279 - is they, 566 00:20:58.815 --> 00:20:59.554 - you know, they 567 00:21:00.494 --> 00:21:01.554 - they clean up 568 00:21:02.494 --> 00:21:02.994 - the, 569 00:21:05.375 --> 00:21:07.774 - you know, clean up the the grammar, the 570 00:21:07.774 --> 00:21:08.274 - pronunciations 571 00:21:08.894 --> 00:21:10.595 - to a point. Some of the pronunciations 572 00:21:10.974 --> 00:21:12.274 - are kinda wacko. 573 00:21:12.589 --> 00:21:14.829 - But if you type it out a certain 574 00:21:14.829 --> 00:21:16.609 - way, they'll say it the right way. 575 00:21:17.309 --> 00:21:19.009 - So, you know, that's not always 576 00:21:19.549 --> 00:21:21.570 - the case, but, you know, it's 577 00:21:22.430 --> 00:21:24.190 - with with the voices. But, you know, like 578 00:21:24.190 --> 00:21:26.049 - I say, you get a spam email nowadays. 579 00:21:26.190 --> 00:21:27.914 - It's really hard to tell, 580 00:21:28.795 --> 00:21:30.894 - you know, by the broken English 581 00:21:31.275 --> 00:21:32.414 - that it's a scam. 582 00:21:33.355 --> 00:21:36.234 - Of course, you know, if they're asking you 583 00:21:36.234 --> 00:21:37.775 - to pay something immediately 584 00:21:38.234 --> 00:21:41.115 - or something bad will happen, it's a scam 585 00:21:41.115 --> 00:21:41.855 - hang up. 586 00:21:42.590 --> 00:21:45.650 - If they're asking you to pay them in 587 00:21:45.789 --> 00:21:48.369 - iTunes gift cards or any gift cards, 588 00:21:48.670 --> 00:21:50.349 - it's a scam. They're asking you to send 589 00:21:50.349 --> 00:21:50.849 - crypto, 590 00:21:51.230 --> 00:21:52.049 - it's a scam. 591 00:21:53.630 --> 00:21:55.710 - I hate to say it. There's nothing particularly 592 00:21:55.710 --> 00:21:58.005 - wrong with crypto, but, that is 593 00:21:58.484 --> 00:21:59.865 - one of the ways the scammers 594 00:22:00.884 --> 00:22:02.184 - get people. And 595 00:22:02.805 --> 00:22:04.565 - it's too bad because, you know, it is 596 00:22:04.565 --> 00:22:05.625 - kind of a an 597 00:22:05.924 --> 00:22:06.825 - interesting technology 598 00:22:07.125 --> 00:22:09.384 - and interesting way to move money 599 00:22:10.164 --> 00:22:11.704 - for sure. So, 600 00:22:13.150 --> 00:22:13.970 - yeah, just, 601 00:22:14.509 --> 00:22:16.450 - you gotta watch the the scams. 602 00:22:17.230 --> 00:22:18.750 - And and, you know, getting back to the 603 00:22:18.750 --> 00:22:21.470 - ad stuff, you know, you watch YouTube. If 604 00:22:21.470 --> 00:22:23.549 - you're not a member, you don't you're not 605 00:22:23.549 --> 00:22:25.970 - paying YouTube for YouTube premium. 606 00:22:26.965 --> 00:22:27.705 - You know, 607 00:22:28.085 --> 00:22:30.025 - they'll cut you right off at mid sentence. 608 00:22:31.045 --> 00:22:32.725 - You know, cut off the video in mid 609 00:22:32.725 --> 00:22:35.285 - sentence to play you an irrelevant ad or 610 00:22:35.285 --> 00:22:38.164 - sometimes irrelevant ad, but still, you know, it's 611 00:22:38.164 --> 00:22:38.664 - like, 612 00:22:39.045 --> 00:22:40.485 - really? I just wanted to hear the rest 613 00:22:40.485 --> 00:22:41.545 - of that guy's sentence. 614 00:22:43.619 --> 00:22:46.740 - And, you know, it's just maddening. Watching regular 615 00:22:46.740 --> 00:22:48.599 - TV, which I do periodically, 616 00:22:49.940 --> 00:22:52.740 - the ads on TV have gone down in 617 00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:53.240 - value 618 00:22:53.619 --> 00:22:55.059 - a lot. You know, it used to be 619 00:22:55.059 --> 00:22:57.240 - you watch your local TV station, 620 00:22:58.065 --> 00:22:58.724 - and it 621 00:22:59.984 --> 00:23:02.325 - was ads for something you might be interested 622 00:23:02.384 --> 00:23:04.704 - in, you know, the local lumber yard, the 623 00:23:04.704 --> 00:23:05.845 - car dealer, the 624 00:23:06.144 --> 00:23:07.365 - the this or the that. 625 00:23:08.304 --> 00:23:09.044 - But now, 626 00:23:10.250 --> 00:23:11.849 - at least here in Michigan, and I I 627 00:23:11.849 --> 00:23:14.009 - guess that probably is a regional thing, but 628 00:23:14.009 --> 00:23:16.089 - at least here in Michigan, it's all the 629 00:23:16.089 --> 00:23:17.629 - online gambling stuff. 630 00:23:18.569 --> 00:23:19.629 - And, oh my gosh, 631 00:23:19.929 --> 00:23:21.309 - you know, BetMGM 632 00:23:21.929 --> 00:23:22.329 - and, 633 00:23:23.095 --> 00:23:25.674 - you know, just all the different online casinos, 634 00:23:26.934 --> 00:23:30.455 - are just advertising the hell out of, local 635 00:23:30.455 --> 00:23:30.955 - TV. 636 00:23:31.894 --> 00:23:33.654 - I guess it must work because they're doing 637 00:23:33.894 --> 00:23:35.275 - they keep doing it, but, 638 00:23:36.350 --> 00:23:39.230 - you know, I I've never once did any 639 00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:42.029 - online gambling, and I never once will do 640 00:23:42.029 --> 00:23:43.090 - online gambling. 641 00:23:44.190 --> 00:23:46.830 - And then social media. Oh my gosh. You 642 00:23:46.830 --> 00:23:48.930 - know, the the amount of AI 643 00:23:49.309 --> 00:23:50.049 - on Facebook, 644 00:23:52.004 --> 00:23:54.644 - and not that it's all bad. Again, you 645 00:23:54.644 --> 00:23:56.804 - know, I'm not ditching on AI because it's 646 00:23:56.804 --> 00:23:58.424 - really good at what it's good at. 647 00:23:59.204 --> 00:23:59.704 - But 648 00:24:00.244 --> 00:24:02.264 - now they have a thing like in Facebook 649 00:24:02.325 --> 00:24:04.724 - groups, which is probably the most useful thing 650 00:24:04.724 --> 00:24:06.940 - on Facebook is the Facebook groups. You know, 651 00:24:06.940 --> 00:24:09.200 - you join a group about, you know, whatever 652 00:24:10.380 --> 00:24:12.859 - niche you're interested in, and you you can 653 00:24:12.859 --> 00:24:15.420 - get some information there and discuss things and 654 00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:16.160 - ask questions 655 00:24:16.460 --> 00:24:18.140 - and all that. And that is all fine 656 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:18.799 - and dandy, 657 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:20.799 - but now they have these AI 658 00:24:21.964 --> 00:24:23.404 - users that go in there and try to 659 00:24:23.404 --> 00:24:24.384 - start conversations. 660 00:24:26.445 --> 00:24:29.005 - And it's so obvious that either they're trying 661 00:24:29.005 --> 00:24:31.484 - to stir up crap or, or just get 662 00:24:31.484 --> 00:24:31.984 - conversations 663 00:24:32.285 --> 00:24:34.945 - going, which is not a bad thing, but 664 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:37.140 - some of it is just inane. 665 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:40.340 - It's insane. It's crazy. 666 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:41.460 - It's nuts. 667 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:42.820 - Oh my gosh. 668 00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:45.840 - You know, I I follow a couple of 669 00:24:45.840 --> 00:24:46.340 - carnivore 670 00:24:48.085 --> 00:24:49.225 - Facebook groups 671 00:24:50.325 --> 00:24:52.904 - and, or flying Facebook groups, 672 00:24:53.765 --> 00:24:54.345 - you know, 673 00:24:54.965 --> 00:24:55.945 - airplane stuff. 674 00:24:57.924 --> 00:25:00.565 - And, you know, if you're on a group 675 00:25:00.565 --> 00:25:03.279 - that's, you know, not very high volume, meaning 676 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.440 - there's not a lot of posts there, sometimes 677 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.000 - an AI agent will pop in and ask 678 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:08.579 - a question 679 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:09.539 - or 680 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.140 - say something controversial. 681 00:25:12.399 --> 00:25:13.460 - You know? And 682 00:25:14.005 --> 00:25:16.804 - especially with the carnivore stuff because, you know, 683 00:25:16.804 --> 00:25:19.204 - carnivore people are just about as bad as 684 00:25:19.204 --> 00:25:19.784 - the vegans. 685 00:25:20.724 --> 00:25:22.804 - Like I said, no no shade on either, 686 00:25:22.804 --> 00:25:23.304 - but, 687 00:25:24.085 --> 00:25:25.144 - they they definitely 688 00:25:25.525 --> 00:25:27.704 - take their way of eating as 689 00:25:28.085 --> 00:25:29.304 - the only way and 690 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.320 - how dare you. But, you know, somebody goes 691 00:25:32.320 --> 00:25:33.940 - in there and asks if, 692 00:25:34.320 --> 00:25:37.539 - you know, pure maple syrup is is acceptable 693 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:38.339 - on carnivore. 694 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.535 - No. It's all sugar. You know, that's obvious. 695 00:25:41.695 --> 00:25:44.174 - But these AI's don't really know that or 696 00:25:44.174 --> 00:25:46.095 - that maybe they do and just wanna stir 697 00:25:46.095 --> 00:25:47.315 - up crap. So 698 00:25:48.015 --> 00:25:48.994 - I don't know. 699 00:25:49.295 --> 00:25:49.695 - It's, 700 00:25:50.255 --> 00:25:53.295 - it's pretty interesting. Or they'll they'll have AI 701 00:25:53.295 --> 00:25:54.174 - video shorts. 702 00:25:54.815 --> 00:25:57.940 - Facebook's just full of these AI videos that 703 00:25:57.940 --> 00:25:58.440 - are 704 00:25:59.059 --> 00:26:01.160 - airplanes doing impossible things, 705 00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:03.000 - and 706 00:26:03.539 --> 00:26:05.400 - and it looks pretty damned realistic 707 00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:08.500 - until you realize, yeah, there's no way that 708 00:26:08.500 --> 00:26:09.640 - airplane did that. 709 00:26:10.265 --> 00:26:11.804 - You know, just no way. 710 00:26:12.345 --> 00:26:12.845 - And 711 00:26:13.625 --> 00:26:15.384 - and then, you know, the the other one 712 00:26:15.384 --> 00:26:17.144 - that really bugs me on Facebook. Okay. I'm 713 00:26:17.144 --> 00:26:17.964 - on my soapbox. 714 00:26:18.505 --> 00:26:20.424 - One that bugs me on Facebook is they 715 00:26:20.424 --> 00:26:22.265 - have this thing called threads that, 716 00:26:23.069 --> 00:26:25.730 - competes basically with x, Twitter. 717 00:26:27.309 --> 00:26:27.809 - And 718 00:26:28.909 --> 00:26:30.849 - they'll post something on your timeline 719 00:26:31.869 --> 00:26:32.529 - on Facebook 720 00:26:34.190 --> 00:26:36.275 - that, you know, it's just a blurb, and 721 00:26:36.275 --> 00:26:37.954 - it says hit read more. You read more. 722 00:26:37.954 --> 00:26:40.035 - It says read more on threads and tries 723 00:26:40.035 --> 00:26:41.554 - to get you to sign up for threads. 724 00:26:41.554 --> 00:26:44.194 - I don't need any more social media. I 725 00:26:44.194 --> 00:26:46.355 - don't even like the social media I'm on. 726 00:26:46.355 --> 00:26:48.214 - I'm, you know, I'm on it for specific 727 00:26:48.355 --> 00:26:50.750 - things. You know? Like, Facebook. I'm on it 728 00:26:50.750 --> 00:26:51.569 - for the groups 729 00:26:51.950 --> 00:26:52.609 - that I 730 00:26:53.230 --> 00:26:55.069 - deal with and and and, you know, a 731 00:26:55.069 --> 00:26:56.369 - little bit of work stuff. 732 00:26:56.829 --> 00:26:58.929 - I'm on x a little bit. 733 00:26:59.309 --> 00:27:01.069 - Like I said, don't use use that for 734 00:27:01.069 --> 00:27:02.429 - a whole lot, but it is kind of 735 00:27:02.429 --> 00:27:05.044 - an interesting place to look up news, 736 00:27:05.664 --> 00:27:08.004 - especially something that's actively happening. 737 00:27:08.704 --> 00:27:10.544 - But I'm not gonna get on Instagram. I'm 738 00:27:10.544 --> 00:27:12.464 - not gonna get on threads. I'm definitely not 739 00:27:12.464 --> 00:27:15.184 - gonna get on blue sky, which is another 740 00:27:15.184 --> 00:27:16.164 - Twitter competitor. 741 00:27:16.464 --> 00:27:18.544 - Not gonna get on truth social. That's another 742 00:27:18.544 --> 00:27:19.524 - Twitter competitor. 743 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.240 - You know, I I I've got all the 744 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.240 - social media I want. I I have to 745 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:26.140 - be on LinkedIn 746 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.299 - professionally, so I am on LinkedIn. 747 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:30.619 - Not particularly 748 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.160 - fond of that either because that is a 749 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:34.619 - mostly spam generator. 750 00:27:36.524 --> 00:27:38.605 - And I'm on Reddit a bit, but Reddit 751 00:27:38.605 --> 00:27:41.024 - is kind of the best of Facebook groups, 752 00:27:41.644 --> 00:27:44.065 - but more just on the web, which 753 00:27:44.684 --> 00:27:47.184 - is I don't consider that really social media 754 00:27:47.244 --> 00:27:49.504 - and, you know, you could find some interesting 755 00:27:49.565 --> 00:27:51.579 - stuff on there. It's worth 756 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:52.619 - doomscrolling, 757 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.320 - but I've often said I am gonna switch 758 00:27:55.320 --> 00:27:57.180 - to a flip phone when I retire. 759 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.759 - You know, if you wanna call me, call 760 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:01.259 - me. 761 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:03.640 - If you wanna text me, I I may 762 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:04.299 - read it 763 00:28:04.634 --> 00:28:06.555 - on my flip phone, but I'm definitely not 764 00:28:06.555 --> 00:28:08.555 - gonna get into a conversation with you. And 765 00:28:08.555 --> 00:28:10.815 - don't think of texts as real time. 766 00:28:11.434 --> 00:28:13.515 - Texts are like emails. I'll get to it 767 00:28:13.515 --> 00:28:15.195 - when I get to it. If you really 768 00:28:15.195 --> 00:28:16.974 - need something in real time, 769 00:28:17.369 --> 00:28:19.950 - dial the number and talk to me. 770 00:28:20.730 --> 00:28:23.130 - And if I don't answer you, leave a 771 00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:25.470 - voice mail, and I will call you back. 772 00:28:26.009 --> 00:28:27.930 - Don't just call over and over and over 773 00:28:27.930 --> 00:28:28.829 - and over again. 774 00:28:29.785 --> 00:28:31.065 - You know? I guess I'm gonna be a 775 00:28:31.065 --> 00:28:31.805 - tech curmudgeon. 776 00:28:32.184 --> 00:28:34.184 - You know? I'm Gen x. I started before 777 00:28:34.184 --> 00:28:35.164 - all this tech, 778 00:28:35.704 --> 00:28:36.105 - and, 779 00:28:36.664 --> 00:28:38.664 - you know, I think I wanna go back 780 00:28:38.664 --> 00:28:40.125 - to that at some point. 781 00:28:40.424 --> 00:28:43.164 - Although, I always listen to podcasts and probably 782 00:28:43.589 --> 00:28:45.750 - watch YouTube or whatever replaces it in the 783 00:28:45.750 --> 00:28:46.250 - future, 784 00:28:47.509 --> 00:28:49.849 - you know, as long as it's indie creators. 785 00:28:50.789 --> 00:28:52.869 - You know, that's the thing with podcasting. It's 786 00:28:52.869 --> 00:28:53.369 - definitely 787 00:28:54.230 --> 00:28:55.634 - sort of I 788 00:28:56.275 --> 00:28:57.974 - don't know if it's bifurcating, 789 00:28:58.434 --> 00:29:01.174 - but they're you know, the the beauty of 790 00:29:01.315 --> 00:29:01.815 - podcasting 791 00:29:03.394 --> 00:29:04.535 - has always been 792 00:29:05.075 --> 00:29:05.575 - that 793 00:29:06.275 --> 00:29:08.615 - anybody and everybody can do it. 794 00:29:09.230 --> 00:29:12.130 - And it's getting easier and easier and easier 795 00:29:12.190 --> 00:29:13.650 - and easier to do. 796 00:29:14.670 --> 00:29:15.650 - You know, there's, 797 00:29:16.190 --> 00:29:18.750 - you know, myriad of hosting companies out there 798 00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:20.910 - that'll help you generate an RSS feed and 799 00:29:20.910 --> 00:29:22.910 - get you distributed everywhere. Of course, I like 800 00:29:22.910 --> 00:29:23.410 - Blueberry, 801 00:29:24.154 --> 00:29:25.514 - but, you know, there's a bunch of them 802 00:29:25.514 --> 00:29:26.815 - that do that. And 803 00:29:27.755 --> 00:29:29.294 - that's all that's required 804 00:29:30.315 --> 00:29:32.954 - is generate an RSS feed, record something, you 805 00:29:32.954 --> 00:29:34.654 - know, sit down talking to the microphone. 806 00:29:35.514 --> 00:29:36.014 - And 807 00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:37.529 - we read a study, 808 00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:39.509 - or I don't know if it's a study, 809 00:29:39.509 --> 00:29:41.930 - but a report by, Tom Webster 810 00:29:42.549 --> 00:29:44.570 - from Sounds Profitable formerly 811 00:29:45.349 --> 00:29:45.849 - from, 812 00:29:48.070 --> 00:29:50.535 - oh, what's the company? Anyway, a research company 813 00:29:50.535 --> 00:29:52.554 - that he worked at for years and then 814 00:29:52.615 --> 00:29:54.934 - now he's, you know, got got a thing 815 00:29:54.934 --> 00:29:55.434 - called 816 00:29:55.734 --> 00:29:57.994 - Sounds Profitable, which is kind of 817 00:29:58.375 --> 00:29:58.875 - another 818 00:30:00.375 --> 00:30:01.355 - sort of research 819 00:30:01.974 --> 00:30:02.795 - and monetization 820 00:30:03.174 --> 00:30:03.674 - thing. 821 00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:06.410 - And he was saying that, you know, a 822 00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:07.230 - lot of people 823 00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:08.910 - look to podcasting 824 00:30:09.289 --> 00:30:09.789 - for 825 00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:10.670 - authentic 826 00:30:11.289 --> 00:30:11.789 - sounding 827 00:30:14.570 --> 00:30:16.029 - audio, you know, information. 828 00:30:17.414 --> 00:30:19.734 - You know, the the indie talking into the 829 00:30:19.734 --> 00:30:20.234 - microphone, 830 00:30:20.695 --> 00:30:22.615 - you know, I'm sitting in a shed in 831 00:30:22.615 --> 00:30:23.355 - my backyard. 832 00:30:23.654 --> 00:30:25.894 - Yes. I have some fancy equipment and all 833 00:30:25.894 --> 00:30:28.154 - that, but that's not even necessary either. 834 00:30:29.335 --> 00:30:30.934 - You know, I'm just a gearhead, so I 835 00:30:30.934 --> 00:30:33.500 - like it. But the thing is 836 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.299 - that the more podcasts 837 00:30:36.840 --> 00:30:38.779 - that sound like broadcast 838 00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.180 - and you know the the sound. 839 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:42.960 - Hey. We're here at the White House today. 840 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:43.920 - You know, where they're just broadcasting at you. 841 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:45.420 - Well, you know, I'm talking. Okay? And, 842 00:30:46.444 --> 00:30:48.545 - casting at you. Well, you know, I'm talking. 843 00:30:49.164 --> 00:30:51.644 - Okay? And, you know, I tell you anytime 844 00:30:51.644 --> 00:30:52.785 - you want, you can 845 00:30:53.164 --> 00:30:55.164 - email me, mike@mikedell.com, 846 00:30:55.164 --> 00:30:57.005 - and talk back to me. Send me a 847 00:30:57.005 --> 00:31:01.309 - file or or whatever, and, you know, we 848 00:31:01.309 --> 00:31:02.369 - can have a conversation. 849 00:31:04.109 --> 00:31:04.849 - I'm not 850 00:31:06.109 --> 00:31:08.130 - sitting here trying to make a broadcast 851 00:31:08.670 --> 00:31:09.170 - quality 852 00:31:10.269 --> 00:31:10.769 - thing. 853 00:31:11.710 --> 00:31:13.664 - It's just not what it is. You know, 854 00:31:13.664 --> 00:31:15.745 - this is, you know, some dude sitting in 855 00:31:15.745 --> 00:31:17.904 - a shed in his backyard just talking into 856 00:31:17.904 --> 00:31:18.485 - a microphone. 857 00:31:19.265 --> 00:31:20.945 - You know? I don't expect to set the 858 00:31:20.945 --> 00:31:23.105 - world on fire with it. You know, I'm 859 00:31:23.105 --> 00:31:25.045 - not trying to get advertisers 860 00:31:25.505 --> 00:31:27.985 - to, pay me a gazillion dollars to talk 861 00:31:27.985 --> 00:31:30.149 - into the microphone. Now that would be good. 862 00:31:30.149 --> 00:31:32.630 - And if that ever happened, I wouldn't do 863 00:31:32.630 --> 00:31:34.069 - it here, but I'd do it wherever they 864 00:31:34.069 --> 00:31:35.829 - wanted me to do it. Whatever. Sure. You 865 00:31:35.829 --> 00:31:37.049 - know, write me the check. 866 00:31:37.829 --> 00:31:38.329 - But 867 00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:40.630 - it's not the same thing, and I think 868 00:31:40.630 --> 00:31:42.889 - that's the thing in podcasting. There are 869 00:31:43.565 --> 00:31:45.184 - professional level shows. 870 00:31:45.724 --> 00:31:48.985 - Not saying they're better. They're more broadcasty. In 871 00:31:49.164 --> 00:31:51.164 - fact, a lot of people that for were 872 00:31:51.164 --> 00:31:53.404 - formally in broadcasting, which, you know, radio is 873 00:31:53.404 --> 00:31:55.984 - dying. You know, it's a dying art form. 874 00:31:56.089 --> 00:31:57.849 - I I kinda hate to see it because, 875 00:31:57.849 --> 00:31:59.849 - you know, radio has its place and it's 876 00:31:59.849 --> 00:32:01.390 - and it's pretty awesome, but, 877 00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:04.109 - you know, some of it is just 878 00:32:04.650 --> 00:32:06.650 - really, you know, you you go in any 879 00:32:06.650 --> 00:32:09.595 - city and flip through the FM dial, and 880 00:32:09.595 --> 00:32:11.914 - there's, you know, the same 20 or 30 881 00:32:11.914 --> 00:32:14.394 - formats that sound exactly the same as the 882 00:32:14.394 --> 00:32:17.054 - 20 or 30 format formats in your city. 883 00:32:17.595 --> 00:32:19.694 - And there's really not a lot of differentiation 884 00:32:20.315 --> 00:32:22.634 - between them now. In every city or at 885 00:32:22.634 --> 00:32:25.240 - least every broadcast area. There there are a 886 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:26.779 - couple of, indie 887 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.340 - sort of radio stations. 888 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:31.559 - You know, we we have a good example 889 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:33.320 - of it here in in Michigan. You know, 890 00:32:33.320 --> 00:32:35.500 - we've got a a group of radio stations 891 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.565 - owned by a family and, you know, they 892 00:32:38.565 --> 00:32:40.724 - have a rock station. They have a talk 893 00:32:40.724 --> 00:32:42.585 - station. They have an oldies station 894 00:32:44.244 --> 00:32:47.285 - and and a country station, and they, you 895 00:32:47.285 --> 00:32:50.180 - know, they're they are locally generated radio. They 896 00:32:50.180 --> 00:32:52.180 - might be in syndication for some of the 897 00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:54.180 - talk station, of course, is an indicate is 898 00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:54.920 - in syndication 899 00:32:55.299 --> 00:32:56.359 - for part of the day, 900 00:32:56.740 --> 00:32:58.119 - but they do have local 901 00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.039 - locally generated programming. 902 00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:03.059 - Their morning shows on, you know, on all 903 00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:06.375 - the stations, their morning shows have live people 904 00:33:06.375 --> 00:33:08.615 - in the studio from, you know, whatever till 905 00:33:08.615 --> 00:33:10.474 - 10:00 in the morning or whatever. 906 00:33:11.015 --> 00:33:13.494 - And and, you know, there's some personality there 907 00:33:13.494 --> 00:33:14.795 - where there's not 908 00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:17.750 - in some of the, you know, some of 909 00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:19.750 - the other stations. You know? There might not 910 00:33:19.750 --> 00:33:21.849 - even be anybody in town 911 00:33:22.390 --> 00:33:24.950 - that works for that radio station. It's just, 912 00:33:25.190 --> 00:33:27.829 - you know, plugged into the satellite and just 913 00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:30.950 - another outlet for Bob FM or whatever they 914 00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:32.694 - call it. You know? We have one here 915 00:33:32.694 --> 00:33:35.095 - called Bob FM, and it's just a format. 916 00:33:35.095 --> 00:33:35.595 - But, 917 00:33:37.894 --> 00:33:40.694 - you know, podcasting is kind of going that 918 00:33:40.694 --> 00:33:41.194 - way. 919 00:33:41.734 --> 00:33:43.914 - You know? A lot of lot of podcasts, 920 00:33:43.974 --> 00:33:46.054 - you know, have a team of 30 people 921 00:33:46.054 --> 00:33:46.954 - working on 922 00:33:47.569 --> 00:33:49.829 - production for this thing, and it's highly produced 923 00:33:49.970 --> 00:33:50.950 - wall of sound, 924 00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:52.390 - sound design. 925 00:33:52.849 --> 00:33:54.769 - And, you know, they read the credits at 926 00:33:54.769 --> 00:33:56.609 - the end of the podcast, and it's, 927 00:33:58.609 --> 00:34:00.710 - you know, it's just a myriad of people. 928 00:34:00.849 --> 00:34:01.349 - And, 929 00:34:01.734 --> 00:34:04.774 - again, nothing wrong with that. The water's warm. 930 00:34:04.774 --> 00:34:06.394 - Come on in. Make a podcast. 931 00:34:07.815 --> 00:34:08.315 - But 932 00:34:08.775 --> 00:34:10.635 - I can get just as distributed 933 00:34:11.014 --> 00:34:11.514 - as 934 00:34:12.135 --> 00:34:14.135 - the one with a team of 30 with 935 00:34:14.135 --> 00:34:15.514 - my team of one. 936 00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:16.400 - And 937 00:34:17.819 --> 00:34:19.900 - that's the beauty of podcasting, and I think 938 00:34:19.900 --> 00:34:24.000 - we're losing that somewhat. Now, again, there's probably 939 00:34:24.380 --> 00:34:25.760 - just about as many 940 00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:29.099 - indie podcasters out there that are doing something 941 00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:30.945 - similar to what I'm doing or maybe stepping 942 00:34:31.025 --> 00:34:33.204 - it up a bit because I'm not consistent 943 00:34:33.664 --> 00:34:34.485 - as you know. 944 00:34:35.664 --> 00:34:36.164 - But 945 00:34:36.465 --> 00:34:37.605 - for the most part, 946 00:34:39.105 --> 00:34:40.864 - you know, there's not a whole lot of 947 00:34:40.864 --> 00:34:42.085 - difference in distribution. 948 00:34:42.465 --> 00:34:44.945 - So my show is available right beside Joe 949 00:34:44.945 --> 00:34:47.059 - Rogan. Yeah. More people are gonna listen to 950 00:34:47.059 --> 00:34:48.280 - Joe Rogan, of course. 951 00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:49.480 - But 952 00:34:49.940 --> 00:34:51.000 - my show's there. 953 00:34:51.460 --> 00:34:53.059 - And, you know, if I was a little 954 00:34:53.059 --> 00:34:53.800 - more consistent 955 00:34:54.660 --> 00:34:56.660 - and and promoted it a bit, maybe I'd, 956 00:34:56.660 --> 00:34:58.760 - you know, gain some more audience. That's great. 957 00:34:58.864 --> 00:35:00.864 - But, you know, that's not my goal here. 958 00:35:00.864 --> 00:35:02.545 - My goal here is to have a place 959 00:35:02.545 --> 00:35:04.405 - where I can jump on the microphone and 960 00:35:04.944 --> 00:35:05.444 - and 961 00:35:06.704 --> 00:35:07.204 - talk 962 00:35:07.664 --> 00:35:08.164 - for 963 00:35:08.944 --> 00:35:11.204 - however long about whatever I want. 964 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:13.760 - And, you know, it doesn't cost me that 965 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.260 - much. 966 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:15.539 - You know, 967 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:16.579 - and that's, 968 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.519 - I think, the beauty of independent podcasting. You 969 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.539 - know? Even if you get 20 listeners, 970 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.460 - well, you know, if you 971 00:35:23.894 --> 00:35:25.894 - have, you know, a room with 20 people 972 00:35:25.894 --> 00:35:27.574 - in it, does that seem like a small 973 00:35:27.574 --> 00:35:29.355 - amount? That would keep you pretty busy 974 00:35:29.815 --> 00:35:31.894 - if you had to entertain them, for an 975 00:35:31.894 --> 00:35:34.715 - hour or whatever, however long your show is. 976 00:35:35.909 --> 00:35:38.069 - So, you know, there's there's room for all 977 00:35:38.069 --> 00:35:39.670 - of us, and that's the beauty of it. 978 00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:40.889 - But I I don't want 979 00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:42.329 - people to think 980 00:35:43.670 --> 00:35:45.510 - now that, oh, well, you know, if I 981 00:35:45.510 --> 00:35:48.635 - don't get 5,000 listeners an episode, you 982 00:35:49.014 --> 00:35:50.715 - know, what's the use of doing it? 983 00:35:51.094 --> 00:35:52.775 - You know? Or you're not gonna quit your 984 00:35:52.775 --> 00:35:55.175 - job. The the most heartbreaking thing I can 985 00:35:55.175 --> 00:35:57.914 - hear on the phone when somebody calls Blueberries, 986 00:35:58.454 --> 00:36:00.454 - hey. I I just got laid off from 987 00:36:00.454 --> 00:36:03.079 - my my job, so I wanna start a 988 00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.539 - podcast to make money. 989 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.719 - It doesn't happen that way unless you're already 990 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:08.780 - famous for something. 991 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.440 - You know, podcasting takes some time. You know, 992 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:14.280 - if you really work at it and, you 993 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.460 - know, do all the right things, which, 994 00:36:17.025 --> 00:36:18.085 - obviously, I don't. 995 00:36:18.625 --> 00:36:20.484 - But if you do all the right things, 996 00:36:21.424 --> 00:36:23.364 - yeah, maybe you can make a few bucks. 997 00:36:23.505 --> 00:36:25.424 - But you're not gonna quit your day job 998 00:36:25.424 --> 00:36:28.565 - or replace a day job with a podcast 999 00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:30.409 - tomorrow. 1000 00:36:31.349 --> 00:36:33.589 - You could get started on it tomorrow, but 1001 00:36:33.589 --> 00:36:35.589 - I would be making some other plans to 1002 00:36:35.589 --> 00:36:37.670 - make some money for a while because that's 1003 00:36:37.670 --> 00:36:39.849 - just generally not gonna happen. 1004 00:36:40.389 --> 00:36:42.329 - And you have to have three things 1005 00:36:43.155 --> 00:36:44.295 - to succeed 1006 00:36:44.835 --> 00:36:45.574 - in podcasting. 1007 00:36:46.515 --> 00:36:48.835 - You have to have a a you have 1008 00:36:48.835 --> 00:36:49.735 - to be consistent. 1009 00:36:50.114 --> 00:36:51.175 - That's one thing. 1010 00:36:52.515 --> 00:36:53.315 - You have to 1011 00:36:55.500 --> 00:36:57.980 - yeah. I don't know. Be authentic, I guess, 1012 00:36:57.980 --> 00:36:59.659 - would be the best way to put it. 1013 00:36:59.659 --> 00:36:59.980 - I mean 1014 00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:04.219 - and on top of that, your information has 1015 00:37:04.219 --> 00:37:06.000 - to be either interesting 1016 00:37:07.099 --> 00:37:08.159 - or informative 1017 00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:09.440 - or 1018 00:37:10.554 --> 00:37:11.934 - compelling in some way. 1019 00:37:13.755 --> 00:37:15.755 - You know, a friend of mine, Dave Jackson, 1020 00:37:15.755 --> 00:37:17.855 - the other day on a webinar, he says 1021 00:37:17.914 --> 00:37:19.594 - he says, you know, everybody tells you you 1022 00:37:19.594 --> 00:37:20.574 - gotta be consistent 1023 00:37:21.434 --> 00:37:23.534 - and you, you know, 1024 00:37:24.410 --> 00:37:26.030 - and and you've gotta be 1025 00:37:28.410 --> 00:37:30.750 - oh, I forget what he said. Jeez. See? 1026 00:37:31.050 --> 00:37:32.730 - Brain farts. You know what? I'm gonna leave 1027 00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:34.989 - that in there. I'm not gonna edit because, 1028 00:37:35.050 --> 00:37:36.269 - hey, this is authentic. 1029 00:37:36.614 --> 00:37:38.695 - We're just having a conversation here. I just 1030 00:37:38.695 --> 00:37:40.235 - happen to be the only one talking, 1031 00:37:40.775 --> 00:37:43.434 - which sometimes happens in real two way communications, 1032 00:37:43.574 --> 00:37:45.514 - which I'm working on. I'm working on. 1033 00:37:45.894 --> 00:37:46.394 - But, 1034 00:37:46.934 --> 00:37:48.614 - you know, he he says I could scream 1035 00:37:48.614 --> 00:37:50.875 - into the microphone for five minutes 1036 00:37:51.230 --> 00:37:53.069 - and then put it out every Tuesday at 1037 00:37:53.069 --> 00:37:53.569 - four, 1038 00:37:54.029 --> 00:37:55.469 - but who's gonna listen to it because it's 1039 00:37:55.469 --> 00:37:56.210 - not good? 1040 00:37:57.309 --> 00:37:57.809 - So, 1041 00:37:58.750 --> 00:38:00.829 - you know, there's there's three elements to that. 1042 00:38:00.829 --> 00:38:01.489 - The technology, 1043 00:38:01.949 --> 00:38:03.170 - I I would say, 1044 00:38:04.795 --> 00:38:06.974 - you know, with a tiny bit of learning, 1045 00:38:07.075 --> 00:38:08.175 - you can 1046 00:38:08.554 --> 00:38:09.614 - tackle the technology 1047 00:38:10.155 --> 00:38:12.335 - even if you're not very technically advanced. 1048 00:38:12.875 --> 00:38:15.054 - And that's the other thing. It's not required 1049 00:38:15.114 --> 00:38:17.835 - to be technically advanced anymore. It used to 1050 00:38:17.835 --> 00:38:18.574 - be. Everybody 1051 00:38:19.030 --> 00:38:21.050 - when I started twenty one years ago, 1052 00:38:21.990 --> 00:38:23.530 - everybody had to be a geek, 1053 00:38:23.990 --> 00:38:27.030 - and that's everybody involved. Everybody that listened, every 1054 00:38:27.110 --> 00:38:29.670 - anybody that created a podcast had to be 1055 00:38:29.670 --> 00:38:31.130 - a geek or hire a geek. 1056 00:38:31.670 --> 00:38:31.910 - So 1057 00:38:32.494 --> 00:38:33.875 - and that's not necessarily 1058 00:38:34.335 --> 00:38:35.394 - the case anymore. 1059 00:38:36.815 --> 00:38:38.894 - You know, learn a little bit about audio 1060 00:38:38.894 --> 00:38:40.114 - production, which 1061 00:38:40.494 --> 00:38:42.815 - it's not super hard, you know, make it 1062 00:38:42.815 --> 00:38:43.954 - not sound bad, 1063 00:38:44.829 --> 00:38:46.530 - Compress it to an m p three 1064 00:38:47.230 --> 00:38:48.769 - and upload it to a podcasting 1065 00:38:49.309 --> 00:38:52.190 - host or your WordPress website or some way 1066 00:38:52.190 --> 00:38:54.670 - to get it into an RSS feed. Don't 1067 00:38:54.670 --> 00:38:57.069 - do stupid stuff by naming the files all 1068 00:38:57.069 --> 00:38:57.730 - the same. 1069 00:38:58.875 --> 00:39:00.394 - Keep get a piece of artwork. You can 1070 00:39:00.394 --> 00:39:01.855 - go on Fiverr and for 1071 00:39:02.155 --> 00:39:03.355 - 10 or $15, 1072 00:39:03.355 --> 00:39:05.135 - have somebody design you some 1073 00:39:05.594 --> 00:39:06.414 - cover art 1074 00:39:06.715 --> 00:39:07.195 - and, 1075 00:39:07.755 --> 00:39:10.974 - voila. You're there. You know? Not not really 1076 00:39:11.035 --> 00:39:12.494 - all that hard to do. 1077 00:39:13.829 --> 00:39:15.510 - Whereas, you know, if you wanted to start 1078 00:39:15.510 --> 00:39:18.150 - a radio station, that, takes years. You know, 1079 00:39:18.150 --> 00:39:21.050 - your construction permit, you gotta buy a ridiculous 1080 00:39:21.110 --> 00:39:24.010 - amount of equipment, you know, towers and transmitters 1081 00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:24.650 - and 1082 00:39:25.030 --> 00:39:28.545 - studio equipment and studio building and somebody go 1083 00:39:28.545 --> 00:39:30.484 - out and sell ads for you and 1084 00:39:30.784 --> 00:39:33.425 - and, you know, some ridiculous electric bill in 1085 00:39:33.425 --> 00:39:35.425 - two or three spots depending on how your 1086 00:39:35.425 --> 00:39:37.204 - transmitter and your studio work. 1087 00:39:38.464 --> 00:39:40.545 - You know, plus you probably gotta bribe a 1088 00:39:40.545 --> 00:39:42.869 - bunch of FCC people to approve the license. 1089 00:39:42.950 --> 00:39:44.630 - So, you know, it just takes a ton 1090 00:39:44.630 --> 00:39:47.369 - of money. With podcasting, you you go to 1091 00:39:47.829 --> 00:39:50.410 - go to Best Buy, buy a $50 microphone, 1092 00:39:50.869 --> 00:39:53.030 - plug it into your computer that you already 1093 00:39:53.030 --> 00:39:55.210 - have, download some free software, 1094 00:39:55.910 --> 00:39:56.410 - record, 1095 00:39:57.425 --> 00:39:59.905 - and then, you know, get a hosting plan. 1096 00:39:59.905 --> 00:40:01.905 - You know, a Blueberry, $15 1097 00:40:01.905 --> 00:40:03.125 - will get you on the air. 1098 00:40:04.224 --> 00:40:04.724 - And, 1099 00:40:05.664 --> 00:40:07.824 - you know, you know, there's there's other places 1100 00:40:07.824 --> 00:40:09.184 - to do it as well. Like I said, 1101 00:40:09.184 --> 00:40:10.704 - I'm not not here to make a commercial 1102 00:40:10.704 --> 00:40:11.925 - for Blueberry, but 1103 00:40:12.949 --> 00:40:15.349 - it's not particularly hard anymore. And, you know, 1104 00:40:15.349 --> 00:40:16.869 - the hard part is get it out there 1105 00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:18.170 - because, you know, there are, 1106 00:40:18.789 --> 00:40:21.750 - in theory, four plus million podcasts out there. 1107 00:40:21.750 --> 00:40:22.250 - Now 1108 00:40:22.869 --> 00:40:24.789 - you're really only competing with about a half 1109 00:40:24.789 --> 00:40:26.089 - a million realistically, 1110 00:40:26.789 --> 00:40:27.289 - and 1111 00:40:28.434 --> 00:40:30.934 - you're not competing with anybody that is you. 1112 00:40:31.635 --> 00:40:32.775 - That's the other thing. 1113 00:40:33.154 --> 00:40:36.275 - People come to podcasts and listen to podcasts 1114 00:40:36.275 --> 00:40:37.414 - because of the person 1115 00:40:38.914 --> 00:40:41.909 - almost more than the subject matter. And and 1116 00:40:41.909 --> 00:40:43.670 - I can think of a couple of examples 1117 00:40:43.670 --> 00:40:45.510 - of that. I actually listen to a couple 1118 00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:48.489 - of podcasts about about subjects that I don't 1119 00:40:48.789 --> 00:40:50.710 - really care all that much about. I just 1120 00:40:50.710 --> 00:40:51.609 - like the host. 1121 00:40:52.230 --> 00:40:53.929 - They have a lot of other information 1122 00:40:54.230 --> 00:40:56.144 - and and, you know, and I am learning 1123 00:40:56.144 --> 00:40:57.605 - about that subject matter, 1124 00:40:58.144 --> 00:40:58.644 - but 1125 00:40:59.824 --> 00:41:02.085 - it's, you know, they're they're just a compelling 1126 00:41:02.625 --> 00:41:03.125 - person 1127 00:41:03.505 --> 00:41:06.805 - and they're authentic and they give good information 1128 00:41:06.945 --> 00:41:08.385 - or at least what I think is good 1129 00:41:08.385 --> 00:41:10.565 - information. That's the other thing. Never 1130 00:41:11.739 --> 00:41:14.000 - ever ever ever ever ever ever ever believe 1131 00:41:14.619 --> 00:41:16.160 - anything you see, 1132 00:41:16.940 --> 00:41:17.440 - hear, 1133 00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:18.720 - or read, 1134 00:41:19.340 --> 00:41:21.019 - and that could be on the Internet, on 1135 00:41:21.019 --> 00:41:21.519 - TV, 1136 00:41:22.059 --> 00:41:24.619 - anywhere unless you see something with your own 1137 00:41:24.619 --> 00:41:25.360 - two eyeballs. 1138 00:41:26.484 --> 00:41:28.405 - In my case, one eyeball at this point 1139 00:41:28.405 --> 00:41:30.264 - just because the other one's still healing. 1140 00:41:31.284 --> 00:41:33.625 - But you know unless you see it personally 1141 00:41:35.764 --> 00:41:37.144 - or hear it personally 1142 00:41:37.844 --> 00:41:38.905 - without technology, 1143 00:41:39.284 --> 00:41:40.905 - you can't believe it because 1144 00:41:41.489 --> 00:41:42.710 - everything is manipulated. 1145 00:41:43.250 --> 00:41:45.010 - And I go into a whole tirade about 1146 00:41:45.010 --> 00:41:47.650 - the news business, but I won't. That's not 1147 00:41:47.650 --> 00:41:48.369 - what this, 1148 00:41:48.690 --> 00:41:50.469 - this episode is all about anyway. 1149 00:41:51.570 --> 00:41:53.489 - So I know I was all over the 1150 00:41:53.489 --> 00:41:55.730 - place. Been a while since I podcasted blah 1151 00:41:55.730 --> 00:41:57.364 - blah blah. I say said every time, 1152 00:41:57.824 --> 00:42:00.085 - but, you know, I'm compelled to 1153 00:42:00.465 --> 00:42:01.684 - to talk into the microphone. 1154 00:42:01.985 --> 00:42:04.644 - I've got one, and I can do it. 1155 00:42:05.425 --> 00:42:07.925 - And we are gonna be restarting the podcast 1156 00:42:08.304 --> 00:42:11.505 - insider show. We're kind of revamping that as 1157 00:42:11.505 --> 00:42:12.005 - well. 1158 00:42:13.160 --> 00:42:15.480 - You know, for quite a while, we were 1159 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:16.220 - just doing 1160 00:42:17.160 --> 00:42:21.079 - generic podcast topics and, you know, just cranking 1161 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.079 - them out every week, and and it was 1162 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:24.140 - just getting redundant. 1163 00:42:25.764 --> 00:42:28.425 - So we're reformatting that into more 1164 00:42:29.364 --> 00:42:29.864 - conversational, 1165 00:42:30.724 --> 00:42:32.184 - kinda what I'm doing here, 1166 00:42:33.204 --> 00:42:35.204 - but with, you know, it's gonna be two 1167 00:42:35.204 --> 00:42:37.284 - or three of us at a time doing 1168 00:42:37.284 --> 00:42:37.784 - that 1169 00:42:38.244 --> 00:42:40.744 - and talking about, you know, some 1170 00:42:41.739 --> 00:42:43.680 - thing going on in the industry 1171 00:42:43.980 --> 00:42:45.840 - or, you know, some trend. 1172 00:42:46.619 --> 00:42:48.239 - You know, there's a trend towards 1173 00:42:48.539 --> 00:42:51.019 - video right now. You know, what people don't 1174 00:42:51.019 --> 00:42:53.680 - understand is videos always been part of podcasting. 1175 00:42:54.315 --> 00:42:56.155 - But now it's getting a little more front 1176 00:42:56.155 --> 00:42:56.815 - and center, 1177 00:42:57.514 --> 00:42:58.014 - and 1178 00:42:58.394 --> 00:43:00.554 - that's fine. But don't feel like you have 1179 00:43:00.554 --> 00:43:03.695 - to do video. Video is so much more 1180 00:43:04.714 --> 00:43:05.214 - difficult. 1181 00:43:06.714 --> 00:43:07.594 - You know, video 1182 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.639 - yeah. I mean, sure. You can hold your 1183 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.159 - iPhone up in front of your face and 1184 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.179 - do shorts and all that. That's easy. 1185 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:15.059 - But, 1186 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.639 - you know, doing long form videos, if I 1187 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.815 - was doing this in video, I'd have to 1188 00:43:20.815 --> 00:43:22.815 - worry about my lighting. I'd have to, you 1189 00:43:22.815 --> 00:43:24.894 - know, shave. I I haven't shaved in a 1190 00:43:24.894 --> 00:43:25.795 - couple of days. 1191 00:43:26.815 --> 00:43:29.454 - You know, probably put on a shirt that's 1192 00:43:29.454 --> 00:43:30.594 - not not this 1193 00:43:31.295 --> 00:43:32.974 - rough t shirt that I'm on. And, you 1194 00:43:32.974 --> 00:43:35.539 - know, I'm sitting here enjoying an adult beverage. 1195 00:43:35.539 --> 00:43:36.900 - I wouldn't want to do that on a 1196 00:43:36.900 --> 00:43:38.280 - video that I put out. 1197 00:43:38.579 --> 00:43:39.780 - I could do it when I'm on the 1198 00:43:39.780 --> 00:43:40.280 - microphone. 1199 00:43:41.619 --> 00:43:43.940 - So, you know, there are some advantages to 1200 00:43:43.940 --> 00:43:45.780 - doing just audio. A lot easier to edit. 1201 00:43:45.780 --> 00:43:47.300 - You know, if you screw something up and 1202 00:43:47.300 --> 00:43:49.405 - you want to edit. I don't edit these 1203 00:43:49.405 --> 00:43:51.905 - very often, so this was not edited. 1204 00:43:52.525 --> 00:43:54.065 - But if you wanted to edit, 1205 00:43:54.444 --> 00:43:56.444 - you know, say you said something stupid or 1206 00:43:56.444 --> 00:43:58.844 - you flubbed something up and you wanna cut 1207 00:43:58.844 --> 00:44:00.844 - that out, it's a lot harder in video 1208 00:44:00.844 --> 00:44:02.529 - than it is in audio. So, you know, 1209 00:44:02.529 --> 00:44:04.210 - just keep that in mind. You know? I 1210 00:44:04.210 --> 00:44:06.069 - don't think video for 1211 00:44:06.449 --> 00:44:09.509 - the creator side is gonna be as popular 1212 00:44:09.569 --> 00:44:11.750 - as everybody seems to think it is. 1213 00:44:12.369 --> 00:44:15.170 - But hey. You know? We at Blueberry, we're, 1214 00:44:15.344 --> 00:44:17.744 - we're actually working on a video product. We've 1215 00:44:17.744 --> 00:44:20.224 - always supported video, but we're gonna support it 1216 00:44:20.224 --> 00:44:21.045 - a lot better, 1217 00:44:21.585 --> 00:44:22.565 - coming soon. 1218 00:44:23.105 --> 00:44:23.605 - And, 1219 00:44:24.065 --> 00:44:26.484 - you know, make it, affordable and 1220 00:44:27.505 --> 00:44:29.264 - and make it to so that, you know, 1221 00:44:29.264 --> 00:44:30.704 - if that's what you want to do, you 1222 00:44:30.704 --> 00:44:31.320 - have that option. 1223 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:33.960 - And if you don't wanna do it, you 1224 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:35.019 - don't have to. 1225 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:36.300 - You know? 1226 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:38.760 - It used to be, you know, a long 1227 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.920 - time ago when we first started this stuff, 1228 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.680 - if you built it, somebody would come. You 1229 00:44:42.680 --> 00:44:44.440 - know? There was a 100 podcasts when I 1230 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:44.940 - started. 1231 00:44:45.505 --> 00:44:46.965 - You know, most podcasters 1232 00:44:47.344 --> 00:44:49.905 - and most podcast listeners listen to a fair 1233 00:44:49.905 --> 00:44:51.605 - number of those 100 shows 1234 00:44:52.385 --> 00:44:52.885 - because 1235 00:44:53.824 --> 00:44:56.565 - that's all that was out there. Now there's, 1236 00:44:56.625 --> 00:44:59.025 - you know, millions of them and, you know, 1237 00:44:59.025 --> 00:45:00.880 - some of them are active. You know? Like 1238 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.280 - I said, I I'm guessing around 500,000 1239 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:03.780 - active 1240 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.199 - podcasters, and active is defined different ways. I've 1241 00:45:07.359 --> 00:45:08.719 - I figured if you haven't put out an 1242 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:11.679 - episode in ninety days, it's not active. So 1243 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.099 - this one really wasn't active until today. 1244 00:45:14.945 --> 00:45:17.364 - So I probably got counted in the inactive 1245 00:45:18.065 --> 00:45:19.445 - list there, but, 1246 00:45:20.224 --> 00:45:21.744 - you know, we'll try not to do that 1247 00:45:21.744 --> 00:45:23.664 - as as long. But I I say that 1248 00:45:23.664 --> 00:45:25.425 - every time and it never works. So, you 1249 00:45:25.425 --> 00:45:27.184 - know, hey, you know what to expect. If 1250 00:45:27.184 --> 00:45:28.644 - you've been with me long enough, 1251 00:45:29.139 --> 00:45:30.579 - yeah, I put out stuff when I put 1252 00:45:30.579 --> 00:45:31.800 - out stuff, and, 1253 00:45:32.579 --> 00:45:33.940 - no pressure. That's, 1254 00:45:34.820 --> 00:45:36.099 - that's kind of a nice way to do 1255 00:45:36.099 --> 00:45:36.599 - it. 1256 00:45:37.219 --> 00:45:37.800 - Of course, 1257 00:45:38.099 --> 00:45:40.099 - I did the I've been doing the daily, 1258 00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:41.859 - you know, cup of Traverse City, and then 1259 00:45:41.859 --> 00:45:43.539 - I ended up taking a month off. And 1260 00:45:43.539 --> 00:45:45.515 - I tried to restart it this week and 1261 00:45:45.515 --> 00:45:47.355 - just things got in the way, but I 1262 00:45:47.434 --> 00:45:49.114 - I'll get back to that. And it'll be 1263 00:45:49.114 --> 00:45:51.055 - five days a week, five minutes. 1264 00:45:51.755 --> 00:45:53.755 - And that's fun. That's fun. You know, I 1265 00:45:53.755 --> 00:45:54.974 - don't mind that pressure, 1266 00:45:56.155 --> 00:45:59.390 - and especially since, you know, I've said all 1267 00:45:59.390 --> 00:46:02.510 - along, you know, if this doesn't this this 1268 00:46:02.510 --> 00:46:04.430 - isn't fun, I'm not gonna do it. Or 1269 00:46:04.430 --> 00:46:06.989 - if I'm, you know, indisposed at some point, 1270 00:46:06.989 --> 00:46:08.430 - you know, I'll take a day or three 1271 00:46:08.430 --> 00:46:09.650 - or a month off. 1272 00:46:10.030 --> 00:46:11.570 - But, you know, I'll try. 1273 00:46:11.985 --> 00:46:13.425 - And and the same with this one, you 1274 00:46:13.425 --> 00:46:15.285 - know, I'll I'll flip on the microphone 1275 00:46:16.065 --> 00:46:17.285 - more often maybe, 1276 00:46:17.905 --> 00:46:20.565 - maybe not. I I I I'd like to 1277 00:46:20.865 --> 00:46:22.005 - because I enjoy it. 1278 00:46:22.625 --> 00:46:24.965 - Jeez, I've been talking for forty five minutes, 1279 00:46:26.789 --> 00:46:29.849 - and I figured that's enough for this round. 1280 00:46:30.070 --> 00:46:32.570 - And please let me know. Are you still 1281 00:46:32.950 --> 00:46:34.570 - listening? Are you still 1282 00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:36.489 - subscribed or following 1283 00:46:36.869 --> 00:46:38.410 - or whatever? And and 1284 00:46:38.724 --> 00:46:39.464 - more importantly, 1285 00:46:39.925 --> 00:46:41.764 - you know, what do you think? Do you 1286 00:46:41.764 --> 00:46:44.324 - think, you know, technology is just going off 1287 00:46:44.324 --> 00:46:45.704 - the deep end, or 1288 00:46:46.085 --> 00:46:47.224 - am I just being 1289 00:46:47.925 --> 00:46:50.405 - a a crusty old man sitting here, you 1290 00:46:50.405 --> 00:46:52.405 - know, shaking my hand at the kids on 1291 00:46:52.405 --> 00:46:54.510 - my front lawn? You know, that could be 1292 00:46:54.510 --> 00:46:55.010 - either. 1293 00:46:55.789 --> 00:46:56.289 - So 1294 00:46:57.070 --> 00:46:58.849 - I'm not opposed to being wrong 1295 00:46:59.230 --> 00:47:02.050 - or, or at least having a different opinion. 1296 00:47:03.150 --> 00:47:05.329 - So with that, everybody have a good 1297 00:47:05.630 --> 00:47:07.390 - however long it is till I talk to 1298 00:47:07.390 --> 00:47:08.050 - you again. 1299 00:47:09.180 --> 00:47:10.480 - Catch me later.