1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,279 Good morning. Good evening. Good afternoon. Whatever the 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,219 case may be, this is McDowell's 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,900 World number four thirty three for Thanksgiving 4 00:00:09,279 --> 00:00:10,580 twenty twenty five. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,699 I guess it's officially the twenty seventh. 6 00:00:14,474 --> 00:00:14,974 And 7 00:00:15,275 --> 00:00:17,295 today, I want first off, I wanna 8 00:00:18,875 --> 00:00:20,574 say a happy Thanksgiving. 9 00:00:22,234 --> 00:00:25,035 You know, it's Thanksgiving in The United States, 10 00:00:25,035 --> 00:00:25,855 so hopefully, 11 00:00:26,394 --> 00:00:28,814 you find some good food somewhere and 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,820 and some good family camaraderie and and whatnot. 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,340 This is 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,640 gonna be kind of a rough one for 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,440 us in some ways because it's the first 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,460 Thanksgiving without my dad, 17 00:00:42,255 --> 00:00:44,914 who passed away a couple weeks after Thanksgiving 18 00:00:45,215 --> 00:00:46,034 last year. 19 00:00:46,815 --> 00:00:47,315 So, 20 00:00:47,774 --> 00:00:48,274 yeah, 21 00:00:48,734 --> 00:00:50,495 we're gonna leave an empty chair at the 22 00:00:50,495 --> 00:00:51,695 table for him and, 23 00:00:52,255 --> 00:00:52,755 yeah, 24 00:00:53,615 --> 00:00:56,500 kinda kinda rough around the edges. But what 25 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:58,500 I wanted to talk about today is how 26 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:01,140 Traverse City still has the feeling of a 27 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:02,200 small town. 28 00:01:02,979 --> 00:01:05,700 And I kinda preface that with saying, sort 29 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:06,200 of. 30 00:01:06,659 --> 00:01:08,599 You know, we've had a couple of 31 00:01:09,194 --> 00:01:12,075 interesting crimes around here lately. I'm sure you're 32 00:01:12,155 --> 00:01:13,915 you know, well, maybe you didn't, maybe you 33 00:01:13,915 --> 00:01:15,435 did. But we had a big, 34 00:01:15,995 --> 00:01:18,875 stabbing incident at the Walmart here in Traverse 35 00:01:18,875 --> 00:01:20,094 City, this summer. 36 00:01:20,715 --> 00:01:21,215 And 37 00:01:21,709 --> 00:01:22,209 just 38 00:01:22,590 --> 00:01:25,390 here last week or so, we had a 39 00:01:25,390 --> 00:01:25,890 murder, 40 00:01:26,750 --> 00:01:29,649 and, you know, a couple of kids, were 41 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:32,989 were breaking into cars. And, anyway, they shot 42 00:01:32,989 --> 00:01:33,489 a 43 00:01:34,195 --> 00:01:36,195 parking deck worker. And, of course, when I 44 00:01:36,195 --> 00:01:37,895 say the word parking deck, 45 00:01:38,195 --> 00:01:40,755 that also sort of denotes that Traverse City 46 00:01:40,755 --> 00:01:41,895 isn't that small anymore, 47 00:01:42,594 --> 00:01:44,135 but, I'll get to that. 48 00:01:44,915 --> 00:01:45,314 And, 49 00:01:45,954 --> 00:01:46,454 also, 50 00:01:47,390 --> 00:01:49,790 just yesterday, I think it was or maybe 51 00:01:49,790 --> 00:01:50,689 the day before, 52 00:01:51,950 --> 00:01:53,729 over at the Meijer gas station, 53 00:01:54,590 --> 00:01:57,150 somebody tried to abduct a woman and, you 54 00:01:57,150 --> 00:01:58,849 know, he got stopped, but 55 00:01:59,474 --> 00:02:01,734 still, you know, that kind of stuff normally 56 00:02:01,795 --> 00:02:03,954 doesn't happen here and when it does, it's 57 00:02:03,954 --> 00:02:06,114 it's definitely a big deal. So I guess 58 00:02:06,114 --> 00:02:08,034 that that puts it in the in the 59 00:02:08,034 --> 00:02:09,414 realm of small town, 60 00:02:10,275 --> 00:02:12,754 but you know Traverse City still has that 61 00:02:12,754 --> 00:02:13,974 small town feel 62 00:02:14,590 --> 00:02:15,090 sometimes. 63 00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:18,689 You know, around Cherry Festival, it's definitely not. 64 00:02:19,069 --> 00:02:20,849 Let me give you some statistics. 65 00:02:21,310 --> 00:02:22,849 Traverse City, the actual 66 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:25,169 city of Traverse City, 67 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:26,530 which, 68 00:02:27,455 --> 00:02:28,354 you know, encompasses, 69 00:02:29,134 --> 00:02:32,115 you know, downtown and a few neighborhoods around. 70 00:02:32,735 --> 00:02:35,474 So it's not, you know, physically too small. 71 00:02:36,094 --> 00:02:36,594 But, 72 00:02:36,974 --> 00:02:38,735 you know, in the 2020 73 00:02:38,735 --> 00:02:41,474 census, we were just shy of 16,000 74 00:02:41,615 --> 00:02:43,155 people living in 75 00:02:43,909 --> 00:02:47,050 the city of Traverse City. Now the metropolitan 76 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:51,189 area, which covers about four counties, I believe 77 00:02:51,189 --> 00:02:51,849 they count 78 00:02:53,510 --> 00:02:56,490 Grand Traverse County, which is Traverse City, Leelanau 79 00:02:56,629 --> 00:02:58,330 County, Benzie County, 80 00:02:58,985 --> 00:03:00,444 and I believe it's Kalkaska 81 00:03:01,145 --> 00:03:03,405 County that they, also count. 82 00:03:04,025 --> 00:03:07,004 And that's at a 153,000, 83 00:03:07,064 --> 00:03:07,805 hundred fifty 84 00:03:08,185 --> 00:03:10,685 three five hundred, something like that. 85 00:03:11,319 --> 00:03:13,639 And so, you know, think think of a 86 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:14,540 small city 87 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:17,719 with a 100 and some odd thousand people, 88 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:21,240 but only 15,016 89 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,860 in this in the city limits. 90 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:26,620 I'm just outside the city limits and literally 91 00:03:27,134 --> 00:03:29,074 I'm a half a block away from 92 00:03:29,534 --> 00:03:31,634 the airport property, which, 93 00:03:31,935 --> 00:03:32,435 is 94 00:03:32,974 --> 00:03:34,034 considered city. 95 00:03:34,735 --> 00:03:37,155 And about a half a mile 96 00:03:37,694 --> 00:03:38,995 to the west of me, 97 00:03:39,534 --> 00:03:41,394 is considered the city limits. 98 00:03:41,849 --> 00:03:44,110 So I'm in what's called East Bay Township, 99 00:03:44,730 --> 00:03:46,270 and it's a it's a metropolitan 100 00:03:47,849 --> 00:03:50,170 township. It's not really rural. I mean parts 101 00:03:50,170 --> 00:03:52,250 of it are, of course, but where I'm 102 00:03:52,250 --> 00:03:53,689 at it, it's not. I, you know, I'm 103 00:03:53,689 --> 00:03:56,110 on a double city lot in the woods, 104 00:03:56,805 --> 00:03:59,224 so it seems sort of rural, but 105 00:03:59,764 --> 00:04:00,264 again 106 00:04:00,724 --> 00:04:03,365 not really because, you know, half mile from 107 00:04:03,365 --> 00:04:04,025 the airport, 108 00:04:04,485 --> 00:04:06,264 so you get airplanes and helicopters. 109 00:04:06,965 --> 00:04:09,284 I get, you know, not that far from 110 00:04:09,284 --> 00:04:11,465 the bay, so I get that traffic 111 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:14,050 and I'm on a five lane road. 112 00:04:14,349 --> 00:04:14,849 So, 113 00:04:15,229 --> 00:04:17,310 you know, not exactly oh, and there's a 114 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:18,990 train track going through, but not a lot 115 00:04:18,990 --> 00:04:19,569 of trains, 116 00:04:20,910 --> 00:04:22,610 you know, half a block away. 117 00:04:22,910 --> 00:04:25,004 So, you know, I I get it. You 118 00:04:25,004 --> 00:04:27,564 know, I'm not really in the country, not 119 00:04:27,564 --> 00:04:28,705 really in the city, 120 00:04:29,084 --> 00:04:31,084 but, you know, I consider myself part of 121 00:04:31,084 --> 00:04:34,064 Traverse City and my address is Traverse City. 122 00:04:35,165 --> 00:04:35,485 But, 123 00:04:36,125 --> 00:04:38,125 but Traverse City does have kind of a 124 00:04:38,125 --> 00:04:40,539 small town feel to it still. 125 00:04:40,919 --> 00:04:41,740 And that's, 126 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:44,919 you know, something that, it's gonna take a 127 00:04:44,919 --> 00:04:46,919 while to go away if it ever does 128 00:04:46,919 --> 00:04:47,660 go away. 129 00:04:48,039 --> 00:04:50,680 There's some distinct neighborhoods. And, of course, there's 130 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,899 the downtown district, 131 00:04:52,444 --> 00:04:54,625 which I talked all about in two episodes 132 00:04:54,685 --> 00:04:56,305 in this, this month. 133 00:04:57,004 --> 00:05:00,685 And then there's the Traverse Heights area, which 134 00:05:00,685 --> 00:05:02,064 is kind of 135 00:05:02,444 --> 00:05:04,785 on the East Side of Boardman Lake, 136 00:05:05,485 --> 00:05:05,985 from, 137 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:09,290 you know, US 31 out to 138 00:05:09,829 --> 00:05:12,729 South Airport Road, I guess, would be considered 139 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:13,449 the heights. 140 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:15,689 There's the 141 00:05:16,389 --> 00:05:18,410 the Old Town District along, 142 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:19,850 Union Street, 143 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:21,930 and there's the, 144 00:05:22,845 --> 00:05:24,944 they call it, the central neighborhoods, 145 00:05:25,884 --> 00:05:29,185 which is on the West Side of downtown. 146 00:05:32,125 --> 00:05:34,285 You know, west and a little bit south 147 00:05:34,285 --> 00:05:36,225 of downtown, and then, you know, there's 148 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:39,270 a couple other areas in Greylockville, which is 149 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:39,770 actually 150 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:41,689 in Leelanau County, 151 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:43,850 but part of Traverse City, 152 00:05:44,389 --> 00:05:46,470 at least the the little part of of 153 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:47,770 the of Greylockville. 154 00:05:49,095 --> 00:05:52,455 And on the East Side, there's Acme, which 155 00:05:52,455 --> 00:05:54,615 is has its own ZIP code and, you 156 00:05:54,615 --> 00:05:56,214 know, and all that, but, you know, I 157 00:05:56,214 --> 00:05:58,455 consider that part of the city. And then 158 00:05:58,455 --> 00:06:00,535 there's what we call a Miracle Mile, which 159 00:06:00,535 --> 00:06:03,275 is about three or four miles of hotels 160 00:06:03,335 --> 00:06:03,835 and 161 00:06:04,259 --> 00:06:06,519 all touristy stuff along the bay. 162 00:06:07,379 --> 00:06:08,519 Hotels, restaurants, 163 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:11,720 motels, you you name it. 164 00:06:12,579 --> 00:06:13,079 It's 165 00:06:13,539 --> 00:06:16,120 just a, you know, a big long stretch 166 00:06:16,259 --> 00:06:18,120 of that kind of thing. 167 00:06:18,845 --> 00:06:21,345 But you go somewhere here in the wintertime 168 00:06:22,125 --> 00:06:24,305 and, you know, there is some winter tourism 169 00:06:24,444 --> 00:06:24,944 now. 170 00:06:25,324 --> 00:06:26,865 Not as much as, 171 00:06:27,404 --> 00:06:29,564 you know, in the summer obviously, but there 172 00:06:29,564 --> 00:06:30,865 is some winter tourism. 173 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,740 Here, snowmobilers 174 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,199 come up here, skiers come up here, cross 175 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:36,000 country skiers, 176 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:39,220 you know, there's a lot to to do, 177 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:40,259 ice fishermen, 178 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,800 all that. There's stuff to do here in 179 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,379 the winter. 180 00:06:44,225 --> 00:06:46,064 But, you know, I can walk into a 181 00:06:46,064 --> 00:06:49,504 bar downtown, you know, right downtown, walk into 182 00:06:49,504 --> 00:06:52,805 Union Street Station or Sledders or, 183 00:06:53,345 --> 00:06:56,305 you know, whatever bar and, you know, it's 184 00:06:56,305 --> 00:06:58,245 the the typical small town 185 00:06:58,750 --> 00:07:01,250 sort of feel to it. Whereas, 186 00:07:02,189 --> 00:07:04,110 you know, in the in the summertime it's 187 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:06,269 a lot of tourists. Of course, there's a 188 00:07:06,269 --> 00:07:07,009 lot of, 189 00:07:08,750 --> 00:07:10,589 you know, a lot of locals around too 190 00:07:10,589 --> 00:07:13,154 in the summer, of course, but you know, 191 00:07:13,154 --> 00:07:15,074 I don't know. It just feels still like 192 00:07:15,074 --> 00:07:16,694 a small town. We have, 193 00:07:17,235 --> 00:07:18,375 I guess, officially 194 00:07:18,915 --> 00:07:20,295 four high schools. 195 00:07:21,714 --> 00:07:24,115 We got the Catholic schools, you know, we 196 00:07:24,115 --> 00:07:25,975 have a high school, and then there's 197 00:07:26,595 --> 00:07:27,095 three 198 00:07:27,860 --> 00:07:29,000 public schools. 199 00:07:29,379 --> 00:07:29,879 There's 200 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:31,160 Central 201 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:33,000 West 202 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:36,180 and then there's one just called Traverse City 203 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:38,600 High School, which was kind of the alternative 204 00:07:38,819 --> 00:07:39,720 school, but 205 00:07:40,574 --> 00:07:43,055 you know they're actually they're the closest one 206 00:07:43,055 --> 00:07:45,475 to me. Just literally up the street here. 207 00:07:45,935 --> 00:07:47,074 The home of the Mavericks, 208 00:07:47,455 --> 00:07:51,134 but they're a small, you know, niche school, 209 00:07:51,134 --> 00:07:52,595 but it's a public school. 210 00:07:54,069 --> 00:07:54,569 And 211 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:56,889 then we got the two main high schools, 212 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:59,990 the Trojans and the Titans. When I was 213 00:07:59,990 --> 00:08:01,930 going to school, there was just one. 214 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:04,710 Well, the Catholic school though, it's still been 215 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:05,529 around, but 216 00:08:05,985 --> 00:08:07,824 you know, it was just one Traverse City 217 00:08:07,824 --> 00:08:10,404 Senior High School, which turned into Central. 218 00:08:11,344 --> 00:08:13,904 And then they built one out west of 219 00:08:13,904 --> 00:08:16,485 town, kind of out by my folks place, 220 00:08:17,104 --> 00:08:19,104 in Long Lake Township. Well, actually, it's in 221 00:08:19,104 --> 00:08:21,569 Garfield Township. It's in the Long Lake area 222 00:08:21,569 --> 00:08:23,029 on North Long Lake Road. 223 00:08:23,810 --> 00:08:26,370 And that school was built around the same 224 00:08:26,370 --> 00:08:27,750 time as the Columbine 225 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:30,550 shootings there in Colorado. 226 00:08:32,210 --> 00:08:34,129 I'm sure you guys remember that or maybe 227 00:08:34,129 --> 00:08:36,690 you don't. But, whenever they were showing aerial 228 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:38,044 shots of the Columbine 229 00:08:38,345 --> 00:08:39,164 High School, 230 00:08:39,625 --> 00:08:42,365 it looks exactly like Traverse City West. 231 00:08:43,144 --> 00:08:44,605 That building is 232 00:08:45,144 --> 00:08:47,144 I I I think the same guy designed 233 00:08:47,144 --> 00:08:49,544 it or something because every time I saw 234 00:08:49,544 --> 00:08:51,225 that on TV, I said, that looks like 235 00:08:51,225 --> 00:08:51,725 West, 236 00:08:52,129 --> 00:08:53,589 which, like I said, 237 00:08:54,209 --> 00:08:57,889 was under construction or just done, and they, 238 00:08:58,129 --> 00:09:00,690 you know, hadn't started having classes in there 239 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:02,529 at the time. But, you know, it's a 240 00:09:02,529 --> 00:09:03,509 very prominent 241 00:09:04,455 --> 00:09:07,014 building going along North Long Lake Road, so 242 00:09:07,014 --> 00:09:08,955 it was easy to see the resemblance 243 00:09:10,455 --> 00:09:11,355 of the buildings. 244 00:09:11,975 --> 00:09:14,375 But, you know, the old Central High School 245 00:09:14,375 --> 00:09:14,875 downtown 246 00:09:15,815 --> 00:09:16,555 or well, 247 00:09:16,934 --> 00:09:18,555 it's at the base of the peninsula. 248 00:09:21,230 --> 00:09:23,549 It's still more or less in the same 249 00:09:23,549 --> 00:09:24,049 configuration 250 00:09:24,429 --> 00:09:26,529 it was back when I went to school. 251 00:09:27,149 --> 00:09:30,509 One thing interesting about Traverse City Schools, both 252 00:09:30,509 --> 00:09:31,490 the West, 253 00:09:32,204 --> 00:09:34,044 what we call junior high, now they call 254 00:09:34,044 --> 00:09:34,625 it West 255 00:09:35,004 --> 00:09:35,824 Middle School, 256 00:09:37,644 --> 00:09:40,764 and the one Central School that's, you know, 257 00:09:40,764 --> 00:09:42,384 back then was senior high. 258 00:09:43,404 --> 00:09:45,024 They had separate buildings, 259 00:09:45,539 --> 00:09:47,379 and you had to go between the buildings 260 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:50,580 and they had covered walkways. But, you know, 261 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:52,740 something like that should should not be in 262 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:55,220 an area where it snows and and gets 263 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:57,299 really cold because you had to go out 264 00:09:57,299 --> 00:09:59,480 into the weather to, you know, switch classes. 265 00:10:00,095 --> 00:10:02,495 You know? And, now they've connected all the 266 00:10:02,495 --> 00:10:06,174 buildings together. They've enclosed those walkways and built 267 00:10:06,174 --> 00:10:08,815 buildings kind of in between buildings and, you 268 00:10:08,815 --> 00:10:10,815 know, so it's configured a little different. The 269 00:10:10,815 --> 00:10:12,035 layout's the same. 270 00:10:12,629 --> 00:10:15,429 But, and I understand they're tearing down the 271 00:10:15,429 --> 00:10:16,570 original gym 272 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:18,490 at the Central 273 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:21,830 High School if they haven't already, and, they're 274 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:24,149 remodeling and putting in a new gym and 275 00:10:24,149 --> 00:10:25,929 all that. And it was, you know, well 276 00:10:26,149 --> 00:10:26,649 overdue. 277 00:10:27,355 --> 00:10:29,115 I mean, my folks went to that school 278 00:10:29,115 --> 00:10:30,014 in the sixties, 279 00:10:30,554 --> 00:10:32,335 early sixties. And, 280 00:10:33,035 --> 00:10:35,195 you know, it hadn't really changed a whole 281 00:10:35,195 --> 00:10:37,355 lot in the eighties when I went. And, 282 00:10:38,235 --> 00:10:41,115 now it's, yeah, they are changing it up 283 00:10:41,115 --> 00:10:41,615 again 284 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:44,009 a little bit. But, you know, it still 285 00:10:44,009 --> 00:10:44,909 kinda has 286 00:10:45,850 --> 00:10:46,649 that that old, 287 00:10:48,169 --> 00:10:51,129 that that that small town feel to it. 288 00:10:51,129 --> 00:10:53,610 The, you know, the the school, anyway, does, 289 00:10:53,929 --> 00:10:55,850 or did. You know, maybe not now. I 290 00:10:55,850 --> 00:10:56,589 don't know. 291 00:10:57,904 --> 00:11:01,125 One thing of interest that's completely not about 292 00:11:01,345 --> 00:11:04,144 Traverse City being a small town, but whenever 293 00:11:04,144 --> 00:11:07,125 I'm flying and I use Runway 18, 294 00:11:07,745 --> 00:11:10,465 I turn my base to final turn pretty 295 00:11:10,465 --> 00:11:12,245 much right over that high school. 296 00:11:12,750 --> 00:11:14,910 That's kind of, you know, kind of a 297 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:15,970 landmark there, 298 00:11:16,750 --> 00:11:18,450 when you turn base to final, 299 00:11:19,149 --> 00:11:20,210 on 18 300 00:11:20,269 --> 00:11:22,370 in Traverse City, but, I digress. 301 00:11:24,924 --> 00:11:26,845 Let's see what else kinda gives it that 302 00:11:26,845 --> 00:11:29,245 small town feel. Yeah. There is not a 303 00:11:29,245 --> 00:11:30,865 lot of paid parking 304 00:11:32,285 --> 00:11:36,065 around Traverse City. Now in Traverse City, downtown, 305 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:38,200 especially, 306 00:11:38,660 --> 00:11:40,519 there's always been parking meters. 307 00:11:40,899 --> 00:11:42,660 You know, as long as I can remember 308 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:43,620 when I was a kid, you know, I 309 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:44,840 had to feed the meter, 310 00:11:45,299 --> 00:11:47,460 you know. So, you know, right downtown, there 311 00:11:47,460 --> 00:11:50,174 was parking meters. And and nowadays, the parking 312 00:11:50,174 --> 00:11:52,014 meters are all digital. You gotta have an 313 00:11:52,014 --> 00:11:54,174 app on your phone and you pay that 314 00:11:54,174 --> 00:11:56,014 way. I think the ones right on front 315 00:11:56,014 --> 00:11:57,634 street, though, still take coins, 316 00:11:58,174 --> 00:11:59,715 maybe on State Street, 317 00:12:00,095 --> 00:12:02,514 the kind of the two main drags downtown. 318 00:12:03,455 --> 00:12:03,955 And, 319 00:12:05,129 --> 00:12:07,610 you know, and then there's parking decks. There's 320 00:12:07,610 --> 00:12:09,129 two or three or four or five of 321 00:12:09,129 --> 00:12:10,110 them around here. 322 00:12:11,129 --> 00:12:12,970 See, I'm thinking of one. There's the Hardy, 323 00:12:12,970 --> 00:12:15,549 but the Hardy Parking Deck, that's where the 324 00:12:15,850 --> 00:12:16,829 murder happened, 325 00:12:17,929 --> 00:12:18,669 here recently. 326 00:12:19,455 --> 00:12:21,615 But that there's that one that's, 327 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:24,355 kind of off of state and park 328 00:12:24,735 --> 00:12:27,475 in front, you know, kinda in that block 329 00:12:27,774 --> 00:12:30,434 right near the Paul Bunyan Building where WTCM 330 00:12:31,134 --> 00:12:32,115 radio is. 331 00:12:32,799 --> 00:12:35,200 But, that parking deck there is a paid 332 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,879 parking deck. There's one on the West Side 333 00:12:38,879 --> 00:12:41,540 now, I believe, but I don't remember where. 334 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,700 There's a couple of surface lots 335 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,860 across the river from downtown 336 00:12:46,845 --> 00:12:48,924 that you have to have a permit to 337 00:12:48,924 --> 00:12:51,084 park in. It's mainly for the workers down 338 00:12:51,084 --> 00:12:53,084 there, but you can also pay to park, 339 00:12:53,084 --> 00:12:55,024 you know, when tourist season's on. 340 00:12:56,044 --> 00:12:58,445 And they still have a big farm market 341 00:12:58,445 --> 00:13:00,704 down there in the in this summer, 342 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,720 which is kinda nice. They clear out one 343 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,960 of the big parking lots, and, it's a 344 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,340 big farm market. 345 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:10,759 During Cherry Festival, that whole area is is 346 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:12,840 the midway, you know, with all the, you 347 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,299 know, carnival rides and and games and 348 00:13:17,184 --> 00:13:18,004 food carts 349 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:21,184 and gibby fries. Oh my gosh. Gibby fries. 350 00:13:21,184 --> 00:13:24,225 That's, that's actually a local thing. They travel 351 00:13:24,225 --> 00:13:25,125 around the country 352 00:13:25,585 --> 00:13:29,105 going to fairs and and festivals and whatnot, 353 00:13:29,105 --> 00:13:31,045 but, it's a French fry 354 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,559 cart. The cart, I don't know. It's like 355 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,379 a big trailer, 356 00:13:34,919 --> 00:13:36,519 a bunch of it. I think they have 357 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:38,519 multiples, but they are based right here in 358 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:40,679 Traverse City and they are always in Traverse 359 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,080 City when there's any kind of festival going 360 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,660 on, especially the Cherry Festival 361 00:13:46,584 --> 00:13:49,464 or the, Northwest Michigan Fair. That's the two 362 00:13:49,464 --> 00:13:51,725 places I remember going. It's the first time 363 00:13:52,504 --> 00:13:55,225 I had fries with malt vinegar on them, 364 00:13:55,225 --> 00:13:57,964 and, oh my gosh. You know, every year, 365 00:13:58,105 --> 00:14:00,800 at least once during Cherry Festival, I have 366 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,040 to sneak down there through the crowds and 367 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,340 get my Gibby's fries. 368 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:05,940 But, 369 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:08,660 yeah, actually, the carnival 370 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,745 people do the rides and stuff. That's based 371 00:14:12,065 --> 00:14:14,544 actually well, not right in Traverse City, but, 372 00:14:14,865 --> 00:14:16,485 in Acme, Arnold Amusements. 373 00:14:17,664 --> 00:14:20,164 And, you know, if you're anywhere in Michigan 374 00:14:21,024 --> 00:14:22,384 at a at a place that puts up 375 00:14:22,384 --> 00:14:23,125 a carnival, 376 00:14:23,825 --> 00:14:24,485 well, that's 377 00:14:26,019 --> 00:14:29,639 that's usually Arnold Entertainment or Arnold Amusements. 378 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:33,299 You know, they they kinda nomadic carnies, you 379 00:14:33,299 --> 00:14:35,399 know, but based right here. 380 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:38,820 Let's see. What else kinda gives it the 381 00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:40,360 old the the the 382 00:14:40,845 --> 00:14:43,644 small time town feel. You know, you go, 383 00:14:44,044 --> 00:14:46,044 certain places. I don't know if this works 384 00:14:46,044 --> 00:14:47,884 this way in big cities, but, 385 00:14:48,524 --> 00:14:50,845 in Traverse City at a certain time of 386 00:14:50,845 --> 00:14:51,584 the night, 387 00:14:52,044 --> 00:14:53,904 it's usually, I think, 10:00. 388 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:56,740 The traffic lights all go into blink mode 389 00:14:56,740 --> 00:14:59,079 or at least a majority of them. 390 00:14:59,539 --> 00:15:00,980 Of course, now a lot of the traffic 391 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:03,940 lights have been replaced with roundabouts or or 392 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:06,500 whatever you call them. And you know, that's 393 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:09,105 a sort of a controversy. I kinda like 394 00:15:09,105 --> 00:15:09,605 them. 395 00:15:09,985 --> 00:15:12,465 As I talked about in the Iceland episode, 396 00:15:12,465 --> 00:15:13,985 the first time I ever saw one was 397 00:15:13,985 --> 00:15:14,565 in Reykjavik. 398 00:15:15,184 --> 00:15:17,745 Well, the second time I ever dealt with 399 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:18,245 one 400 00:15:19,129 --> 00:15:21,529 was when they built the first one here 401 00:15:21,529 --> 00:15:23,149 and now there's several. 402 00:15:24,169 --> 00:15:24,669 And, 403 00:15:25,529 --> 00:15:27,929 yeah. So, you know, that's that's kind of 404 00:15:27,929 --> 00:15:30,809 a a tick against being still a small 405 00:15:30,809 --> 00:15:32,990 town. One of the other things that's strange 406 00:15:33,049 --> 00:15:34,269 for a small town, 407 00:15:35,345 --> 00:15:36,084 we have 408 00:15:36,625 --> 00:15:38,644 right now two Meijer stores. 409 00:15:39,024 --> 00:15:41,424 Meijer's, as I I think I mentioned in 410 00:15:41,424 --> 00:15:43,424 another episode, is a, you know, kind of 411 00:15:43,424 --> 00:15:45,365 a Walmart sized grocery, 412 00:15:46,304 --> 00:15:48,804 and, other you know, pretty much an everything 413 00:15:49,024 --> 00:15:50,565 store, but it's a 414 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,019 kind of regional chain in the Midwest, 415 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:55,740 mostly Michigan, Ohio, Indiana. 416 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:59,660 I think they're into Kentucky and maybe Illinois, 417 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 but, you know, they're not a national chain 418 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,475 like like Walmart, 419 00:16:05,095 --> 00:16:07,674 and they're no relation to the Fred Meyer's 420 00:16:07,735 --> 00:16:08,475 out West, 421 00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:10,955 although they're very similar stores. 422 00:16:11,414 --> 00:16:13,254 I I found that to be interesting when 423 00:16:13,254 --> 00:16:14,714 I was researching that, 424 00:16:15,414 --> 00:16:17,595 but there's going to be a third 425 00:16:18,054 --> 00:16:19,115 Meijer store 426 00:16:19,709 --> 00:16:20,529 in the area, 427 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:23,230 and they got one, you know, this the 428 00:16:23,230 --> 00:16:25,549 the main one, the first one, was right 429 00:16:25,549 --> 00:16:28,509 along the The US 31 Highway and Silver 430 00:16:28,509 --> 00:16:29,250 Lake Road 431 00:16:29,789 --> 00:16:32,850 area, kind of by West Middle School, 432 00:16:33,715 --> 00:16:36,695 and that one's been around since the seventies. 433 00:16:37,075 --> 00:16:38,915 You know, I started about the seventy eight 434 00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:41,315 storm. That's where my uncle and I went 435 00:16:41,315 --> 00:16:42,615 in the jeep to mire, 436 00:16:43,075 --> 00:16:46,035 you know, to get the first supplies after 437 00:16:46,035 --> 00:16:47,335 the roads got cleared. 438 00:16:48,450 --> 00:16:50,370 But that Meyer has been there. It's been, 439 00:16:50,370 --> 00:16:52,210 you know, tore down and rebuilt two or 440 00:16:52,210 --> 00:16:52,870 three times 441 00:16:53,170 --> 00:16:56,230 over the years, but, it's it's still there. 442 00:16:56,929 --> 00:16:57,429 And, 443 00:16:57,970 --> 00:16:59,590 oh, another side note. 444 00:17:00,050 --> 00:17:02,230 I saw the original Star Wars 445 00:17:02,595 --> 00:17:05,154 in the Meyer parking lot. There they had 446 00:17:05,154 --> 00:17:07,154 a twin theater, and that was a big 447 00:17:07,154 --> 00:17:08,595 thing back in the day. But, 448 00:17:09,154 --> 00:17:11,714 we went to the to the original Star 449 00:17:11,714 --> 00:17:13,794 Wars at that theater that was in the 450 00:17:13,794 --> 00:17:16,230 Meyer parking lot there, but now that's gone 451 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:18,150 and that's where the Meyer gas station is 452 00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:20,150 where the the lady almost got a duck 453 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:22,650 abducted the other night. So 454 00:17:23,589 --> 00:17:24,890 kind of mixed memories. 455 00:17:25,910 --> 00:17:28,865 But, the second one is out in Acme, 456 00:17:29,404 --> 00:17:31,484 Williamsburg to be exact, but they call it 457 00:17:31,484 --> 00:17:32,545 the Acme Meyers, 458 00:17:33,164 --> 00:17:34,464 but it's in Williamsburg. 459 00:17:35,005 --> 00:17:35,505 And 460 00:17:35,964 --> 00:17:38,525 what's kind of interesting to me, anyway, I 461 00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:39,424 know I'm weird, 462 00:17:40,125 --> 00:17:42,779 it's at ex exactly the same distance for 463 00:17:42,779 --> 00:17:44,940 me to drive to the original Meijer store 464 00:17:44,940 --> 00:17:46,460 as it is to for me to drive 465 00:17:46,460 --> 00:17:48,079 to the Acme store, 466 00:17:48,779 --> 00:17:50,640 and they're building a third one. 467 00:17:51,259 --> 00:17:53,659 They just built a big Amazon warehouse out 468 00:17:53,659 --> 00:17:56,059 there too, at Chum's Corners. That's kind of 469 00:17:56,059 --> 00:17:56,559 a, 470 00:17:57,205 --> 00:17:59,605 I guess a neighborhood, but it's South Of 471 00:17:59,605 --> 00:18:01,225 Traverse City along the highways, 472 00:18:02,485 --> 00:18:04,585 on the way south out of town 473 00:18:05,045 --> 00:18:07,285 or coming into town depending on the direction 474 00:18:07,285 --> 00:18:07,945 of travel, 475 00:18:08,884 --> 00:18:11,365 but they're building another Meijer store out there, 476 00:18:11,365 --> 00:18:12,345 Chum's Corners. 477 00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:16,190 So we're gonna have three Meijer stores. Now 478 00:18:16,190 --> 00:18:18,349 we're a small town, at least I think 479 00:18:18,349 --> 00:18:19,410 it in my head, 480 00:18:20,589 --> 00:18:22,910 but there'll be a third one. And also, 481 00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:25,890 ironically, that one is exactly the same distance 482 00:18:25,964 --> 00:18:27,724 as the other two are for me. So 483 00:18:27,724 --> 00:18:29,964 I'm kinda in the middle between three three 484 00:18:29,964 --> 00:18:30,784 Meijer stores. 485 00:18:32,204 --> 00:18:32,704 Kinda 486 00:18:33,404 --> 00:18:36,525 kinda strange, I guess. I guess maybe only 487 00:18:36,525 --> 00:18:37,664 I think that's interesting. 488 00:18:38,605 --> 00:18:41,265 But, hey. My show. Deal with it. 489 00:18:42,099 --> 00:18:42,599 But, 490 00:18:43,379 --> 00:18:45,559 you know, that it definitely seems 491 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:49,539 smallish. You know? I talked about the airport 492 00:18:49,539 --> 00:18:51,480 a lot. Again, the airport. 493 00:18:52,419 --> 00:18:55,045 One thing about going to the airport is 494 00:18:55,045 --> 00:18:57,125 I know most of the counter people at 495 00:18:57,125 --> 00:18:59,045 most of the airlines there. I know the 496 00:18:59,045 --> 00:19:00,105 TSA people. 497 00:19:00,964 --> 00:19:03,365 It takes me, you know, four minutes to 498 00:19:03,365 --> 00:19:04,345 get through TSA, 499 00:19:05,684 --> 00:19:06,505 there because 500 00:19:07,299 --> 00:19:09,460 it's not super busy. Now we just had 501 00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:11,640 our record year of airline passengers, 502 00:19:12,259 --> 00:19:15,000 but it's still nothing compared to most 503 00:19:15,380 --> 00:19:17,400 even midsize towns airports. 504 00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:20,740 So and, you know, one thing we don't 505 00:19:20,740 --> 00:19:23,414 have up here yet and we, you know, 506 00:19:23,475 --> 00:19:24,455 I guess I'm not 507 00:19:24,835 --> 00:19:27,315 too worried about us getting it is train 508 00:19:27,315 --> 00:19:29,815 service. You know Amtrak doesn't come here. 509 00:19:30,355 --> 00:19:33,015 The closest closest to Amtrak, I think, 510 00:19:33,634 --> 00:19:35,575 is either Grand Rapids or Holland. 511 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:39,109 And, you know, I would utilize Amtrak if 512 00:19:39,109 --> 00:19:40,309 it was up here. You know? And I 513 00:19:40,309 --> 00:19:41,130 go to Chicago, 514 00:19:41,670 --> 00:19:43,289 I do utilize Amtrak, 515 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:45,750 if I don't go to Manistee Airport and 516 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:47,450 fly a little jumper down. 517 00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:48,330 But, 518 00:19:50,255 --> 00:19:51,855 you know, if I if, you you know, 519 00:19:51,855 --> 00:19:53,535 if I had the option of taking the 520 00:19:53,535 --> 00:19:56,015 train, I would. You know, what I normally 521 00:19:56,015 --> 00:19:57,875 do when I have to go to Chicago, 522 00:19:59,055 --> 00:20:00,755 for something in Chicago, 523 00:20:01,055 --> 00:20:04,174 I'll drive down to New Buffalo, Michigan, which 524 00:20:04,174 --> 00:20:06,099 is right in the far 525 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,380 Southwest corner 526 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:08,900 of the Lower Peninsula. 527 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:10,740 And they have an Amtrak 528 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,519 station there. You get free parking. It's a 529 00:20:13,519 --> 00:20:14,420 small town. 530 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,799 And then it's about an hour ride into 531 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,039 Chicago, and you don't have to deal with 532 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:20,580 parking your car and 533 00:20:20,934 --> 00:20:23,174 the traffic and all that stuff. So I've 534 00:20:23,174 --> 00:20:25,275 done that a few times going to Chicago, 535 00:20:26,134 --> 00:20:28,555 you know, if, if I'm not flying through 536 00:20:28,615 --> 00:20:29,115 Chicago. 537 00:20:30,375 --> 00:20:30,875 But, 538 00:20:31,815 --> 00:20:33,734 anyway so, yeah. I like to still think 539 00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:35,894 this is a small town again. Maybe, 540 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,140 maybe by definition, it really isn't, but 541 00:20:39,519 --> 00:20:41,359 yeah. You know? And and another thing about 542 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,519 Traverse City that a lot of people will 543 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:45,059 notice is we're not 544 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:47,380 super big on chain restaurants. 545 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:50,500 We have our chain restaurants, of course. 546 00:20:50,884 --> 00:20:52,424 I've got a couple of McDonald's, 547 00:20:53,125 --> 00:20:55,525 but two McDonald's in the area went out 548 00:20:55,525 --> 00:20:57,625 of business. I've never even heard of that 549 00:20:57,924 --> 00:20:58,825 anywhere else. 550 00:20:59,525 --> 00:21:01,384 So I think we're down to, 551 00:21:01,924 --> 00:21:02,725 who is it, 552 00:21:03,045 --> 00:21:03,865 there's one 553 00:21:05,019 --> 00:21:07,259 Yes. There's one on 31. There's one at, 554 00:21:07,619 --> 00:21:07,980 at, 555 00:21:09,420 --> 00:21:10,400 Chum's Corners. 556 00:21:11,179 --> 00:21:12,400 There's one in downtown. 557 00:21:12,859 --> 00:21:15,179 There's one on Airport Road, and there's one 558 00:21:15,179 --> 00:21:17,420 in Acme. So there's five McDonald's, and at 559 00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:19,179 one time, I think we had seven or 560 00:21:19,179 --> 00:21:20,774 eight. I think it was seven because there 561 00:21:20,774 --> 00:21:21,835 was one in the mall 562 00:21:22,134 --> 00:21:23,914 and there was one in, Greylockville, 563 00:21:24,934 --> 00:21:27,255 but, those went out of business. You just 564 00:21:27,255 --> 00:21:29,414 don't hear that. Same with Burger King. You 565 00:21:29,414 --> 00:21:31,734 know, we've got, you know, three, four, maybe 566 00:21:31,734 --> 00:21:33,034 five Burger Kings, 567 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:35,380 but the the biggest one, the one that's 568 00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:36,519 been around the longest, 569 00:21:37,059 --> 00:21:38,360 just went out of business. 570 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:41,539 We've had Arby's go out of business. We 571 00:21:41,539 --> 00:21:42,039 had, 572 00:21:42,740 --> 00:21:44,580 I think we at one time had three 573 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:46,440 Arby's, and now we're down to one. 574 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:50,095 You know, we have, I think two Taco 575 00:21:50,095 --> 00:21:51,795 Bell no, three Taco Bells. 576 00:21:52,414 --> 00:21:54,654 So, but like I said, there's no there's 577 00:21:54,654 --> 00:21:56,835 no five guys. There's no, 578 00:21:57,934 --> 00:22:00,174 you know, there's a lot of fast food 579 00:22:00,174 --> 00:22:03,130 that we don't get here, which is fine 580 00:22:03,130 --> 00:22:05,849 because we have some really awesome local places, 581 00:22:05,849 --> 00:22:06,830 even for burgers. 582 00:22:08,170 --> 00:22:09,230 You know, we've got, 583 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:12,809 what is it, Slabtown Burgers, I think it's 584 00:22:12,809 --> 00:22:16,029 probably my favorite in town. There's also Bubba's 585 00:22:16,490 --> 00:22:16,990 downtown. 586 00:22:18,305 --> 00:22:19,204 There's one 587 00:22:20,224 --> 00:22:22,244 in Eastfield, that's another neighborhood 588 00:22:22,865 --> 00:22:25,444 along 8th Street. There's one there called 589 00:22:26,785 --> 00:22:29,204 the proper burger. I forget what the Bergstrom's, 590 00:22:29,664 --> 00:22:30,404 no Bergstrom's 591 00:22:31,265 --> 00:22:33,649 burgers up by Chumps Corners. There's another, 592 00:22:33,950 --> 00:22:35,329 it's called Proper Burger, 593 00:22:36,029 --> 00:22:36,529 and 594 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,149 I gotta be completely honest with you, they 595 00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:41,549 suck, but that's between you, me, and the 596 00:22:41,549 --> 00:22:43,549 fence post. But, hey, you know, we've got 597 00:22:43,549 --> 00:22:44,609 some local places, 598 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:46,769 and same thing with like, 599 00:22:48,174 --> 00:22:50,174 Ruby Tuesday's. Now I don't know if they've 600 00:22:50,174 --> 00:22:51,154 they've had trouble 601 00:22:51,695 --> 00:22:54,255 nationwide, but ours went out of business. We 602 00:22:54,255 --> 00:22:56,275 had a Hooters. They went out of business. 603 00:22:57,855 --> 00:23:00,414 We've had we do have a Chili's and 604 00:23:00,414 --> 00:23:01,075 a Applebee's. 605 00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:04,769 They're, they're still going, but we have another 606 00:23:04,769 --> 00:23:07,329 restaurant in that same area where Chili's and 607 00:23:07,329 --> 00:23:08,390 Applebee's are 608 00:23:08,849 --> 00:23:09,990 that, definitely 609 00:23:11,089 --> 00:23:13,650 isn't doing so good. It's, Opa. It's a 610 00:23:13,650 --> 00:23:14,549 local place. 611 00:23:15,714 --> 00:23:17,394 Well, I don't say I guess they're doing 612 00:23:17,394 --> 00:23:18,694 okay. They're still there, 613 00:23:19,394 --> 00:23:19,894 but 614 00:23:20,434 --> 00:23:22,274 they don't seem as busy as some of 615 00:23:22,274 --> 00:23:24,274 the others. We do have a Chick fil 616 00:23:24,274 --> 00:23:24,774 A, 617 00:23:25,554 --> 00:23:27,714 and that's a recent addition. And it was 618 00:23:27,714 --> 00:23:29,894 kind of funny when they first opened it. 619 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,440 They, had police out there directing traffic and 620 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,460 all that. Now it's just, you know, normal, 621 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,720 but they have, you know, they do have 622 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,619 a Chick fil A Chick fil A here. 623 00:23:42,944 --> 00:23:44,704 I guess I could do a whole show 624 00:23:44,704 --> 00:23:46,544 about fast food. In fact, I used to 625 00:23:46,544 --> 00:23:48,544 do a whole show about fast food called 626 00:23:48,544 --> 00:23:49,605 Fast Food History, 627 00:23:50,224 --> 00:23:51,605 but, I digress. 628 00:23:52,944 --> 00:23:54,644 But yeah, a lot of chain restaurants 629 00:23:55,024 --> 00:23:57,809 don't make it here or are not super 630 00:23:57,809 --> 00:23:58,950 popular here. 631 00:24:00,210 --> 00:24:02,049 You know, we have a couple of local 632 00:24:02,049 --> 00:24:02,549 Mexican 633 00:24:02,849 --> 00:24:03,349 places. 634 00:24:04,369 --> 00:24:05,269 La Senorita 635 00:24:05,730 --> 00:24:06,609 is one, and, 636 00:24:07,569 --> 00:24:09,890 I forget what the other one is. Again, 637 00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:11,730 they don't make big impressions on me. I'm 638 00:24:11,730 --> 00:24:13,029 not a super big 639 00:24:13,465 --> 00:24:15,725 Mexican food fan, but, 640 00:24:17,945 --> 00:24:20,025 but, you know, it's still like I said, 641 00:24:20,025 --> 00:24:22,025 I still get the small town feel. You 642 00:24:22,025 --> 00:24:23,884 know, I I don't feel at all 643 00:24:24,424 --> 00:24:27,164 concerned when I walk around the neighborhood 644 00:24:28,029 --> 00:24:30,910 here in Traverse City. The traffic does get 645 00:24:30,910 --> 00:24:31,809 a little ridiculous 646 00:24:32,109 --> 00:24:32,609 sometimes, 647 00:24:33,069 --> 00:24:33,569 but, 648 00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:36,509 you know, that's just being in a tourist 649 00:24:36,509 --> 00:24:39,089 town, not so bad in the off season. 650 00:24:39,630 --> 00:24:41,230 You know, I can still get all the 651 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:43,250 way across town in fifteen minutes, 652 00:24:44,804 --> 00:24:47,444 which, you know, considering how many traffic lights 653 00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:49,304 and that there's only, like, three 654 00:24:50,005 --> 00:24:52,644 viable ways around Boardman Lake to get from 655 00:24:52,644 --> 00:24:53,544 east to west, 656 00:24:54,085 --> 00:24:54,585 that 657 00:24:54,884 --> 00:24:57,464 that's not bad. Not too bad at all. 658 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,519 So anyway, I've beaten that dead horse enough. 659 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:01,339 Hope hopefully, 660 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,819 you don't overeat 661 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,259 on this Thanksgiving 662 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359 or, if you've already eaten and you're listening 663 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,380 to this later, I hope you didn't overeat. 664 00:25:10,865 --> 00:25:12,785 I hope you got your fill and, got 665 00:25:12,785 --> 00:25:13,605 your camaraderie 666 00:25:13,904 --> 00:25:15,984 and and everything else that goes along with 667 00:25:15,984 --> 00:25:16,644 the holiday. 668 00:25:17,025 --> 00:25:19,025 I'm just thankful that I can do a 669 00:25:19,025 --> 00:25:19,525 podcast 670 00:25:19,904 --> 00:25:20,644 every day 671 00:25:21,744 --> 00:25:23,205 here at NAPOD POMO. 672 00:25:23,664 --> 00:25:25,445 Anyway, catch me tomorrow.