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You're listening to the Loving BDSM podcast episode

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four sixty three. Kayla Lords here with the

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one, the only, the slightly less grumpy than

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you were twenty minutes ago, John Brown's time.

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Yeah. Which okay. We're time travelers. Mhmm. If

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you listen to the Monday episode, you will

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hear me talking about that he is grumpy.

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We recorded that first.

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And it is, hopefully,

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in this, episode that we talk a little

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bit about why he's grumpy, justifiably

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so. I'm not I let me reiterate,

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which for y'all is the first time, and

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I'll be reiterating on Monday.

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Time travel is so weird. I do not

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blame you for being grumpy, and I'm not

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gonna try and get you out of the

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grumpiness. Thank you. Fully justified.

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K. But you know why? You wanna know

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I'm not? One is justified. Two, you haven't

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pointed that grumpiness at me, and I appreciate

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that. That's true. I do appreciate that. Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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Mhmm. Anyway,

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we will actually probably talk about that in

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this episode, but that's not really what this

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episode is. This episode is, more than what

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I thought it was gonna be,

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but still not

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what we usually do. So first of all,

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we're gonna do,

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a couple of new things while also just

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turning this into a bonus,

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section episode. So if you never stick around

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for the bonus section, that's not your jam,

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feel free. Bounce now. Have a good, weekend.

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We hope to catch you next week. Okay.

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For everybody else, yeah, we we're gonna just

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we're gonna it's gonna be chatty and chaotic,

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but without a purpose. It's always chatty and

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chaotic, but usually with a purpose. True. True.

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Just not this time. Mhmm. Welcome to the

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Loving BDSM podcast. If this is your first

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time listening, glad to have you. And, yes,

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it's always like this. If you're back for

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another week, welcome back. Loving BDSM is produced

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every Monday and Friday for your kinky pleasure

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and hopefully making kinky friends in our very

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chill

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fucking kinky community.

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I mean, it's chill in the fact that

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it's very relaxed. It is.

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When people get into heated debates, they really

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get into heated

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debates though. That's true. But in a very

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adult way. So it's kinda nice. Everybody, everybody

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plays well together. I like the thing it's

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our nice little quiet corner of the internet.

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Yeah. Definitely my vibe for sure.

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Anyway, if I haven't scared you off and

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that sounds like you're something you might be

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interested in, it's patreon.com/kaylalords.

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That's patreon.com/kaylalords

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or the link is in the show notes.

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Okay. Before we get into,

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you know, the the stuff we're gonna do,

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I'm so happy to be able to announce

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because I didn't know if I was going

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to be able to. We will be streaming

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this coming Friday night. I wrote the date

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down. Hold on. I looked at a calendar

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and everything, y'all.

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Friday, November 21 at 09:30PM

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for our monthly virtual munch Friday night livestream.

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Mhmm. We are more chaotic.

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It's just who we are.

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your questions,

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kinky q and a during that live stream.

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So, yeah, that's coming.

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Hope y'all can make it.

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If your your schedule does not allow for

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the Friday night live streams, these pure bonus

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section episodes are a slightly milder form, I

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think. Mhmm. We some

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we don't get, like, crazy kinky on the

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Friday night ones. It's just

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even more relaxed.

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like, embraced the chaos more for Friday night.

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I have I'm trying to just embrace the

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chaos for the Wednesdays, but

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I'm trying to actually impart

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some amount of knowledge to those who might

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be seeking it so I don't feel good

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about being too chaotic on a Wednesday.

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have to embrace it. I don't know. I

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don't

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know. So

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let's start with, why we didn't think we

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would be here, but here we are. Mhmm.

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structured thing I have that we've never done

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before. And then it'll just be chatty, and

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it'll just be bonus section. Hold on. I

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can't sit in my chair correctly. Okay. There

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we go. I was just somehow sliding out.

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I don't know how. It happens.

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updated an algorithm,

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fired actual people, and turned some AI on.

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I don't know.

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about two or three weeks, we started getting

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channel strikes. First, stuff we should not have.

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the rule. Even though I did completely

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submit an appeal anyway.

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let me tap your hand.

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Naughty. And I don't like to be naughty.

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I don't like to be perceived as somebody

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who broke a rule. That's what I don't

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later, I don't know. How does time work?

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that was definitely not breaking the rules. They

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said when we linked to our own site,

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we linked to a site with sexual content,

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pornography, and nudity. And I was like, no.

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The hell we didn't.

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I know that site. That's my site. Right.

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have, maybe, but not that site. So I

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did put in the appeal, but they had

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said since we'd had two YouTube strike channel

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strikes so close to another, we were grounded

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for a week. We could not post to

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the community tab. We could not upload a

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video. We could not live stream. Now here's

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the thing I hate. Just let me post

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to the community tab. Let me tell the

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people

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that we're not gonna be there for a

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week. You can't even do that. So I've

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submitted an appeal for that one knowing I

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was right on that one, but they take

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forever on appeals.

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happened to go into the

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the dashboard,

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YouTube Studio,

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the second strike was off, was gone. And

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we were just back to warning, and I

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went, what?

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So they let us out of the corner.

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I would say nobody puts baby girl in

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the corner, but JB puts baby girl in

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the corner. But she does baby girl does

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not give JB a reason to put her

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in the corner. Thank you for that. Again.

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Not on purpose. That's for damn sure.

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we were like, oh, shit. We're not gonna

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be able to do our Wednesday livestream. We're

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like, oh, we'll record an audio podcast and

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it'll just be a giant bonus section because

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that's, you know, that way we're still showing

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but, you know, we're not

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YouTube won't be missing, like, a topic that

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might be of interest. And I won't be

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trying to upload an hour and a half

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long video

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and asking my poor little Mac to, like,

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render that video and export that file.

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we're doing what we were gonna do for

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audio only. We're doing it for the, livestream

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YouTube side as well. But as that was

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happening, while I was in the back end

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of YouTube finding out that we were no

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longer in the corner Mhmm. So when I

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started seeing that that there were comments on

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the YouTube video that also went along with

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an email that I had received, I was

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like,

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oh, yay. Nobody's yelling at me.

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I really appreciate that. And there had been

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some really thoughtful comments Okay. From both

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last week's main episode, on soft media. Some

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and even even though I had to upload

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the YouTube video late because we were in

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the corner,

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some comp a good helpful comments on our

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q and a episode for this week. The

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one about the The collar. Yeah. I know

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you got confused. You're like, we just recorded

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one of those. Yes. That's next week's. So

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we're gonna do a thing we've never done

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and go over some of these comments because

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one, they're like eye opening and educational. Two,

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that that commentary might help somebody else. Mhmm.

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So that's what we're gonna do. And then

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we'll get into our chatty bullshit.

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Yay. So And that's that for that.

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You're copying me. Or

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I said that earlier. Yeah. Okay. And you

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smiled at me when I did. And there

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we go. Now we're twinsies.

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Full circle.

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We're something.

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Okay. So let's start with I have to

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look at my

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screens. Okay. Let's start with OnSoft BDS app.

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Thank you everybody who,

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sent something and commented and not yelling at

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me because you disagree with me. The the

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thing that made me go, I really wanna

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read this. I want to read what was

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written,

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in a an episode was the first email

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I got. And the moment I started reading,

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I went, oh my god. I think I've

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actually heard of this, but not in this

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kind of detail. And this is on soft

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BDSM.

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Okay.

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And I'm not gonna say the person's name.

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Let them keep their anonymity, but you know

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who you are once I start reading. It

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says, I just listened to this week's episode,

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and I felt like the conversation and a

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potential explanation might benefit from what I've seen

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as a dominant woman.

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The soft dom label has been around for

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quite a while within the femdom community. It's

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because so many people, mostly submissive men, take

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their images of DS and femdom from porn.

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Dominant women in porn are almost always depicted

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as harsh, cruel, shouty bitches

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that have no regard for the submissive man.

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The femdom world is full of references to

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men as worthless pigs, worms, etc.

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I don't think this exists in the same

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way in male domfemsub

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material. They I think you would be right.

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I don't think it exists in quite the

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same way either. So submissive men come into

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the community with this image of the dominant

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person as they've seen in porn and social

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media. They think that BDSM and DS are

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all about harsh degradation and a disregard for

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any desires of the submissive man.

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Then they hear that people have actual relationships

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and they themselves want a relationship that involves

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actual love and respect, but they've never seen

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that before. And it's

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incongruous,

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I can speak, with the image they have

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of BDSM. So the femdom community created this

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label of soft dom to describe what is

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really just considered lifestyle d s. The differentiator,

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I can speak, isn't so much about hard

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versus soft. It's about porn versus real life.

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Take a search in the femdom spaces and

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you'll see tons of conversations about soft doms,

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also sometimes labeled gentle femdom,

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another term that male dom relationships don't use.

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Yeah. No. I've I've not seen that term

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at all. There are even multiple FetLife groups

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and subreddits dedicated to gentle femdom and soft

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doms. I don't think these exist outside of

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femdom.

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It's a term that has no generally accepted

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definition. And when I've asked submissive men who

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use the term what they mean, it's always

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just a description of a realistic day to

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day DS relationship. They say things like, I

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still want affection or I want someone who

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isn't mean all the time. Bless their hearts.

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I've also heard, I don't want severe pain.

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And when I've asked for more information,

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they've described having reasonable limits and being able

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to have boundaries.

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Again, this started because of femdom porn,

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femdom porn and how most submissive men get

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their information about BDSM.

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I'm actually a bit surprised that the terminology

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is spreading over into the rest of the

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community. I can see how it would be

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very confusing in the context of a male

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dom and or femsub

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or them sub relationship.

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Hope this adds some perspective and context for

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where the soft term is coming from.

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Thanks for the excellent discussion on the podcast.

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Thank you for your amazing one. The moment

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I'm reading this, I'm like, I have heard

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and when I say I've heard nothing in-depth,

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I'm not in femdom spaces. There's no reason

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for me to be in femdom spaces. But

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I was like, I feel like, yes. This

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I recognize this from somewhere. Okay. And

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I

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kind of wish I'd had this insight when

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we did do the soft

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dom versus hard

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dom

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episode ages ago,

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but it does make sense. And I do

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like the fact that in this community, and

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again, no community is a monolith, so there'll

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be some people who do view this differently

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even in FemDome spaces.

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Porn versus real life, you know? Yeah. I

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can see why you have to make that

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distinction.

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Yeah. And definitely,

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I don't know. Maybe it's more so with

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FemDome because of I mean, even pop culture

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references to dominatrix

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is

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I mean, some people yeah. That's that is

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what they're like, but that's not all of

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Yeah. Not all of it. That's not all

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of it. And it is a very, like,

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harsh,

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degradation filled kind of, like,

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way of being.

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So that makes that all makes sense to

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me. And I think if I had,

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had even an an acknowledgment in my head

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of this, maybe I would have gone to

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some FemDome spaces and seen Mhmm. Something more

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helpful.

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So thank you for that. So that's the

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that's the one that started me going, I

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want to share these things online with others.

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Let's see. Okay. Nope. Wrong one. This one.

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Okay.

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So I'm gonna try and go in chronological

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order here.

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Okay. Somebody commented,

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I'm very happy to see that there are

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people who identify as quote soft BDSM.

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People like myself who like restraints and bondage

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but in a very romantic, sweet, relaxing way

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without any humiliation, pain, or psychological domination might

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need this kind of representation in BDSM.

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Sadomasochism

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playing with limits and degradation. There are people

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who dislike it but still might enjoy some

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kind of power exchange. I often feel alone

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with my preferences and I'm afraid of being

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misunderstood.

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Finding books or other erotic content about romantic

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bondage is so hard because everyone seems to

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prefer it harder. So I hope that we

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will see more soft BDSM representation in the

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future.

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What I would love to see is and

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I know I'm pipe dreams here. I'd like

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to see a world in which there is

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no single type of play that's supposed to

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be

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the face of BDSM. Yeah. I I get,

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like, how and why it would happen,

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but,

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you know, yes. I I somebody either new

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to kink or just only in specific spaces,

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that is a lot of what you're gonna

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see because it's the trope. It's the cliche.

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Even if it is true for some people,

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it's the stereotype.

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Right.

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It's

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it's that's a little bit of why this

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podcast exists because I was like, yeah. Yeah.

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Well, let's talk about reality. Let's talk about

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a different view of BDSM that is not

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just that. So my dream would be, well,

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BDSM can really be the umbrella term it

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needs to be. Mhmm. But I get where

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somebody, you know, would appreciate

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an identifier to know that they're not

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in a very specific

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realm of

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BDSM.

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Yeah. Makes sense. I know I'm going a

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little bit like a freight train. You are.

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Just trying to, like, slow down and go,

440
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what are your thoughts?

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I mean, you are in control around here,

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so I do feel like you would you

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would tell me.

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Okay. Somebody else says Okay. I imagine this

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term is very useful for people who do

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not enjoy impact play slash degradation

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and who wants to be able to communicate

448
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this quickly when looking for play partners? I

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think that's fair enough. I think the issue

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with this comes from the intention of using

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the term. If the intention is to communicate

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you enjoy the controlling aspects of BDSM without

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the impact, degradation, forcefulness of it, all good.

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But if you're using it to separate yourself

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from the wider BDSM community because you have

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hang ups about the more degrading forceful pain

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related BDSM, then that's no good. Yeah. I

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think that's fair. I do think that's fair.

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I do. I I still

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okay.

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This is because I am this kind of

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person.

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I would rather

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us be able us as the generalist, be

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able to be specific and say I want

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power exchange and BDSM without and then list

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the things

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without instead of the shorthand of soft BDSM.

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Simply because there's so much room for misinterpretation

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of a single term like that when somebody

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has a very specific

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meaning for it. I go back to what

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I said in the episode. If the commute

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the at large community

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comes up with

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mostly understood

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easily accessible definition of what soft BDSM is

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that

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can be then disseminated and people can go,

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okay. That's what's then I might personally not

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like the term, but I can get behind

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that because then there's a definition

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behind this very fuzzy term. Right now there's

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no clear definition.

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I think the one thing I've seen is

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I don't want degradation, I don't want pain.

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Right. But most of the time I just

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want people to be able to go, hey,

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I want BDSM

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without

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pain and degradation. Right? Right. Without impact. Mhmm.

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I mean, I that's what I would hope.

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That that's kind of, you know, what the,

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the checklist is for too. Right. Exactly. When

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you when you sit down with somebody, you

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you go through the checklist. Well, I like

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this, but I don't want that.

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Agreed. Agreed. And then,

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this person, gave a perspective I had not

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heard, and I

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I liked it too. It's completely different from

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the others. It's the last one though. We

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don't have any definitive evidence for this but

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we're pretty sure the popularization

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of hard slash soft kink dom BDSM terminology

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comes from fandom culture,

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specifically erotic role play communities

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on Twitter and Tumblr in the late twenty

509
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tens to early twenty twenties.

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We've seen a lot of, erotic role play

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account intro posts talking about, quote, hard kinks,

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coming up in fandom related Twitter searches over

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the years.

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I could see where

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I can see where disparate groups could come

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up with the same words

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and terms Mhmm. But from different completely different

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angles.

519
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True. Yeah. Mhmm. I mean, I have no

520
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experience in that side of the Internet.

521
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Mhmm. So,

522
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you know, can't judge

523
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how widespread or common it might be. Correct.

524
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But it would not be

525
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unusual to me for this

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group,

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this community to come up with a term,

528
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and this community to come up with a

529
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term. And the the,

530
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terms

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overlap or are about the same. Because what

532
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that tells me, even though I hate to

533
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have to, like, concede this point because I

534
00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:35,454
don't really love the term Mhmm. Because it's

535
00:19:35,454 --> 00:19:36,275
too imprecise.

536
00:19:37,054 --> 00:19:39,054
What that tells me though is there needs

537
00:19:39,054 --> 00:19:39,794
to be

538
00:19:40,575 --> 00:19:41,954
some kind of term

539
00:19:42,255 --> 00:19:42,755
shorthand

540
00:19:43,615 --> 00:19:46,335
for this type of BDSM versus that type

541
00:19:46,335 --> 00:19:46,914
of BDSM.

542
00:19:48,170 --> 00:19:48,829
You know?

543
00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:51,609
And I don't mean that there needs to

544
00:19:51,609 --> 00:19:53,609
be for, like, the community, but, like, maybe

545
00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:55,390
as an entry point. You know?

546
00:19:55,849 --> 00:19:57,789
Because how many people go,

547
00:19:58,250 --> 00:20:00,194
I can't do BDS. We've seen it. I

548
00:20:00,194 --> 00:20:01,714
can't do BDSM because I don't want the

549
00:20:01,714 --> 00:20:02,954
whips and the chains and then this and

550
00:20:02,954 --> 00:20:04,355
that. I'm over here going, I don't want

551
00:20:04,355 --> 00:20:05,015
it either.

552
00:20:05,554 --> 00:20:07,015
So I don't want either.

553
00:20:07,954 --> 00:20:09,015
But there's no

554
00:20:10,035 --> 00:20:12,295
there's no from the outside looking in

555
00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:13,740
way to

556
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,140
come in without you have you better

557
00:20:16,679 --> 00:20:18,919
happen to come across somebody online or go

558
00:20:18,919 --> 00:20:19,819
do a thorough

559
00:20:20,519 --> 00:20:22,440
search Yeah. And have an idea of what

560
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,159
you're even looking for or stumble across somebody.

561
00:20:25,159 --> 00:20:25,659
Yeah.

562
00:20:26,524 --> 00:20:28,365
So I will concede that point that maybe

563
00:20:28,365 --> 00:20:29,904
there does need to be

564
00:20:30,524 --> 00:20:31,264
a term.

565
00:20:33,005 --> 00:20:34,845
I don't I don't I don't deny that

566
00:20:34,845 --> 00:20:36,284
there needs to be something. There needs to

567
00:20:36,284 --> 00:20:37,605
be a way to talk about it Yeah.

568
00:20:37,644 --> 00:20:38,845
Even if it's not a term. Maybe it's

569
00:20:38,845 --> 00:20:40,085
not a term. There just needs to be

570
00:20:40,085 --> 00:20:42,720
a way. Yeah. But, you know, the Internet

571
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,279
and specifically social media is where nuance goes

572
00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,259
to die. So something like a conversation about

573
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,220
wanting the power elements and the the control

574
00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:51,779
elements

575
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,539
mixed with,

576
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,900
sensual

577
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,894
the only word I can come up with

578
00:20:57,894 --> 00:20:59,815
even though I hate it is softer side

579
00:20:59,815 --> 00:21:00,555
of kink

580
00:21:01,414 --> 00:21:03,355
instead of the,

581
00:21:04,775 --> 00:21:05,515
the stereotype

582
00:21:05,815 --> 00:21:06,555
of the

583
00:21:07,015 --> 00:21:08,775
the degradation and the pain and the this

584
00:21:08,775 --> 00:21:10,720
and the that. You know? I want a

585
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,339
world where we can just say that.

586
00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:15,759
We don't live in that world. So I

587
00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:16,259
know.

588
00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:19,519
So those were, some of the comments that

589
00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:20,179
we got.

590
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,414
I did see somebody. They, is it called

591
00:21:23,414 --> 00:21:25,654
retweeting or just reposting or quote posting? What

592
00:21:25,734 --> 00:21:27,815
it's blue sky. It's not Twitter. Mhmm. So

593
00:21:27,815 --> 00:21:29,755
I'm not going back to that hellscape. Mhmm.

594
00:21:30,375 --> 00:21:30,875
Who,

595
00:21:31,335 --> 00:21:32,875
reposted, quote posted,

596
00:21:33,894 --> 00:21:36,210
a thing I've a link I shared to

597
00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:39,009
the soft BDSM episode last week, and they

598
00:21:39,009 --> 00:21:39,509
said

599
00:21:39,890 --> 00:21:40,390
that,

600
00:21:41,170 --> 00:21:42,930
they refer to themselves as a highly sensitive

601
00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:45,410
person, meaning that touch, certain types of sensation

602
00:21:45,410 --> 00:21:46,869
on their skin can be very painful.

603
00:21:47,330 --> 00:21:49,009
That they would love to know that there's

604
00:21:49,009 --> 00:21:50,984
a thing like air quote soft BDSM

605
00:21:51,765 --> 00:21:54,664
where it's not about intense stimulation.

606
00:21:55,284 --> 00:21:57,044
Mhmm. And see, but I you know, for

607
00:21:57,044 --> 00:21:59,544
them for that specific case, that makes sense.

608
00:21:59,605 --> 00:22:00,565
Sure. There needs to be a way to

609
00:22:00,565 --> 00:22:02,380
let somebody know that not everything will be

610
00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:04,779
not everything has to be intense. But if

611
00:22:04,779 --> 00:22:07,759
I'm talking in the the broader soft BDSM,

612
00:22:08,779 --> 00:22:09,279
intense

613
00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:12,299
Mhmm. Is not just pain. Most people think

614
00:22:12,299 --> 00:22:14,539
pain and intense. Oh, I don't want anything

615
00:22:14,539 --> 00:22:15,980
intense. It's like, yeah. But,

616
00:22:16,984 --> 00:22:18,205
even a gentle,

617
00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:20,125
orgasm,

618
00:22:21,225 --> 00:22:22,045
forced orgasms

619
00:22:22,744 --> 00:22:24,924
become intense at a certain point. Right.

620
00:22:25,305 --> 00:22:26,365
Yep. Or

621
00:22:26,664 --> 00:22:28,605
or even consistent, like,

622
00:22:28,984 --> 00:22:30,950
how how long can your partner go down

623
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:32,009
on you and and

624
00:22:32,309 --> 00:22:34,009
make you orgasm? At what point

625
00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:35,670
do you stop it when it becomes air

626
00:22:35,670 --> 00:22:37,750
quote intent? Like, the Mhmm. The terms are

627
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:40,970
just imprecise. Yeah. From that person's very specific

628
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:42,795
viewpoint, I could see that.

629
00:22:43,115 --> 00:22:44,955
Mhmm. That that makes sense that they need

630
00:22:44,955 --> 00:22:45,934
a term to know

631
00:22:46,315 --> 00:22:48,315
what they you know, how to explain it.

632
00:22:48,315 --> 00:22:50,154
But I think it's because we just want

633
00:22:50,154 --> 00:22:52,394
things to be an easy explanation, and I'm

634
00:22:52,394 --> 00:22:54,154
here to be the killjoy that tells you,

635
00:22:54,154 --> 00:22:56,654
actually, you need more than two words

636
00:22:57,109 --> 00:22:59,690
to describe what you're actually looking for. Right.

637
00:23:00,549 --> 00:23:01,049
Yeah.

638
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,349
I know that's not really a popular take,

639
00:23:05,349 --> 00:23:06,009
but whatever.

640
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:08,950
I've been a word girl my whole fucking

641
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:10,630
life, and I just think you need I'm

642
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:13,005
not known for brevity and and being concise.

643
00:23:13,164 --> 00:23:14,464
You know? Just saying.

644
00:23:14,845 --> 00:23:16,285
And and you need more than two words.

645
00:23:16,285 --> 00:23:17,105
That's what I'm

646
00:23:17,404 --> 00:23:17,904
saying.

647
00:23:18,365 --> 00:23:19,884
Okay. And then the next one Mhmm. Just

648
00:23:19,884 --> 00:23:21,484
because I found this helpful. At least one

649
00:23:21,484 --> 00:23:23,105
comment was super helpful to me.

650
00:23:23,484 --> 00:23:25,644
Our most recent q and a episode is,

651
00:23:26,285 --> 00:23:26,865
a medical

652
00:23:27,349 --> 00:23:29,670
professional who can't wear their collar. Mhmm. They're

653
00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:32,070
looking for other ideas. But, you know, with

654
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:32,570
that

655
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:34,110
framing of

656
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:36,549
in the in the health care field where

657
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:38,230
there are all kinds of reasons where you

658
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:40,304
could not wear a collar, which I would

659
00:23:40,304 --> 00:23:43,184
imagine probably in some ways can relate in

660
00:23:43,184 --> 00:23:43,924
law enforcement

661
00:23:44,544 --> 00:23:45,044
and,

662
00:23:46,304 --> 00:23:48,224
even military kind of things or might be

663
00:23:48,224 --> 00:23:51,424
specific things because of requirements and policies and

664
00:23:51,424 --> 00:23:53,819
safety that you can't wear. So people were

665
00:23:53,819 --> 00:23:55,039
very helpful with ideas.

666
00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:58,940
One was in our Discord. K. In our

667
00:23:58,940 --> 00:23:59,440
Discord,

668
00:24:00,539 --> 00:24:02,380
we do have a channel for,

669
00:24:02,779 --> 00:24:04,559
episode discussion. Great.

670
00:24:05,019 --> 00:24:07,440
And so let me find it.

671
00:24:08,044 --> 00:24:08,944
Again, I will,

672
00:24:10,525 --> 00:24:12,204
not say names so everybody can keep their

673
00:24:12,204 --> 00:24:12,704
anonymity.

674
00:24:13,164 --> 00:24:14,765
They say, I wore a collar, air quote

675
00:24:14,765 --> 00:24:17,484
that, for fourteen years of my military career,

676
00:24:17,484 --> 00:24:19,484
it was a ring on the opposite hand

677
00:24:19,484 --> 00:24:21,565
to my wedding ring. No one blinked. I

678
00:24:21,565 --> 00:24:23,910
had silicone stand ins for when safety was

679
00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:26,390
an issue. And when deployed, I had a

680
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:29,130
third dog tag made that read property of

681
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:31,349
and then their owner's name, and they wore

682
00:24:31,349 --> 00:24:31,849
that.

683
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:33,990
I thought that was so cool. I love

684
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:34,730
how great

685
00:24:35,109 --> 00:24:37,049
kinky people are. Y'all are talking to creative.

686
00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:38,835
Oh, I just hit my phone against the

687
00:24:38,835 --> 00:24:40,994
mic. That's not a problem. Okay. And then

688
00:24:40,994 --> 00:24:41,974
here are some,

689
00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:42,855
others

690
00:24:43,154 --> 00:24:43,974
that we got.

691
00:24:44,674 --> 00:24:47,095
If metal isn't a problem, a key ring.

692
00:24:47,555 --> 00:24:48,914
At the time, it was one of those

693
00:24:48,914 --> 00:24:51,049
nice soft leather ones that he presumably, he

694
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:51,369
is their dom Mhmm.

695
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:54,250
Had carried around for a little while. And

696
00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:55,769
then if metal is a problem, just take

697
00:24:55,769 --> 00:24:57,929
the metal ring off. They said I liked

698
00:24:57,929 --> 00:24:59,529
it because I was feeling if I was

699
00:24:59,529 --> 00:25:01,289
feeling stressed, I could reach into my pocket

700
00:25:01,289 --> 00:25:02,650
and play with it or hold it. It

701
00:25:02,650 --> 00:25:04,169
was like a key ring. That is

702
00:25:05,224 --> 00:25:07,625
and then the connection of your Dom has

703
00:25:07,625 --> 00:25:09,384
maybe carried it around or maybe it's meaning

704
00:25:09,384 --> 00:25:10,845
you've taken it off of there.

705
00:25:11,305 --> 00:25:13,384
I like that. I really like that. One

706
00:25:13,384 --> 00:25:14,765
person said they wear a bracelet.

707
00:25:15,224 --> 00:25:16,984
One person said they wear earrings when they

708
00:25:16,984 --> 00:25:18,525
go out to the construction site.

709
00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:20,765
And,

710
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:23,059
another person. Hi. I know who I see

711
00:25:23,059 --> 00:25:24,980
you all the time. Hello. Hello. I have

712
00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:27,139
worn some dainty ear cuffs and also some

713
00:25:27,139 --> 00:25:29,960
dainty earrings that are a heart shaped lock.

714
00:25:30,579 --> 00:25:33,345
So I was reading more on something else.

715
00:25:33,345 --> 00:25:35,025
Something came up in my feed. Y'all know

716
00:25:35,025 --> 00:25:36,704
once you Google search something, it's

717
00:25:37,105 --> 00:25:38,944
now your algorithm just, like, starts spitting it

718
00:25:38,944 --> 00:25:41,125
out. It's it's there. And so I,

719
00:25:42,224 --> 00:25:44,384
came across something. And it might have even

720
00:25:44,384 --> 00:25:46,304
been a post by somebody. I can't remember.

721
00:25:46,304 --> 00:25:47,924
But they were talking about how,

722
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359
necklaces have to be able to break away

723
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:53,779
Mhmm. You know, in in certain,

724
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,319
fields. And then they were talking about no

725
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,200
dangling bits, like even earrings in some cases

726
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,960
cannot dangle. And I was like, okay. Perfect.

727
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,460
And I and I can understand that especially

728
00:26:04,115 --> 00:26:06,695
someone working in an ER. Oh, yeah.

729
00:26:07,075 --> 00:26:09,715
Okay? Because you you never know. Mhmm. You

730
00:26:09,715 --> 00:26:11,015
know, I I I was,

731
00:26:12,595 --> 00:26:14,615
one time in the ER,

732
00:26:15,634 --> 00:26:17,414
I've gone there with somebody,

733
00:26:18,195 --> 00:26:18,355
and,

734
00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:20,240
they

735
00:26:21,019 --> 00:26:23,440
brought in some guy from a motorcycle accident,

736
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,000
which

737
00:26:24,380 --> 00:26:26,640
was he was involved in a chase. Mhmm.

738
00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:27,259
And,

739
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:28,640
it

740
00:26:29,339 --> 00:26:31,900
man, it it was crazy. He was he

741
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,154
was screaming and yelling, and

742
00:26:35,515 --> 00:26:37,755
there were several cops with them and, you

743
00:26:37,755 --> 00:26:40,015
know Oh, yeah. He he was thrashing

744
00:26:41,275 --> 00:26:42,715
and all over the place. And,

745
00:26:43,195 --> 00:26:44,474
yeah. It was just a hot mess. So

746
00:26:44,474 --> 00:26:46,095
I kind of understand that.

747
00:26:47,195 --> 00:26:48,335
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

748
00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:51,309
And, again, every like we said in in

749
00:26:51,309 --> 00:26:52,049
that episode,

750
00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:54,450
every field and every

751
00:26:54,910 --> 00:26:56,990
space in the medical sphere is gonna have

752
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:59,869
its own independent rules based on the needs

753
00:26:59,869 --> 00:27:01,169
of that space. Right.

754
00:27:01,674 --> 00:27:03,515
So always read the policy first. But I,

755
00:27:03,515 --> 00:27:04,335
you know, I think

756
00:27:04,955 --> 00:27:07,595
what I appreciate about those comments was, you

757
00:27:07,595 --> 00:27:08,095
know,

758
00:27:08,474 --> 00:27:10,875
it was somebody from the military who could

759
00:27:10,875 --> 00:27:13,035
relate to needing something that was not their

760
00:27:13,035 --> 00:27:15,650
obvious color. Somebody who works in construction where,

761
00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:18,309
no, you cannot have dangling bits in construction.

762
00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:20,529
You don't want anything to get caught on

763
00:27:20,529 --> 00:27:21,670
anything. Mhmm.

764
00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:23,730
So

765
00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:27,365
but yeah.

766
00:27:28,545 --> 00:27:29,765
I really liked those

767
00:27:31,744 --> 00:27:32,244
additional,

768
00:27:33,105 --> 00:27:33,605
thoughts.

769
00:27:34,224 --> 00:27:35,825
Tayshoes and Lutgers. So I think I need

770
00:27:35,825 --> 00:27:38,005
to research earrings for my shop. You definitely

771
00:27:38,305 --> 00:27:40,019
do. You definitely do.

772
00:27:40,580 --> 00:27:42,359
I am completely down for,

773
00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:45,059
I'm gonna air quote it now, collars, air

774
00:27:45,059 --> 00:27:47,000
quote collars being whatever,

775
00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:50,460
is comfortable, safe, and appropriate for Correct. That

776
00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:52,195
a person is willing and wants to wear

777
00:27:52,355 --> 00:27:55,154
Mhmm. That they can be meeting into. You

778
00:27:55,154 --> 00:27:57,414
know? It is deeply, deeply personal.

779
00:27:57,795 --> 00:27:58,295
So

780
00:27:59,715 --> 00:28:00,455
but yeah.

781
00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:03,634
So yeah. Those were the comments that we

782
00:28:03,634 --> 00:28:04,535
got. I,

783
00:28:06,829 --> 00:28:07,149
I,

784
00:28:08,589 --> 00:28:10,829
really appreciate that. That was was it was

785
00:28:10,829 --> 00:28:11,730
nice to see

786
00:28:12,669 --> 00:28:14,509
the other parts of the Internet do not

787
00:28:14,509 --> 00:28:16,210
typically show us thoughtful

788
00:28:16,589 --> 00:28:19,424
Yeah. Comments. Insightful. Yeah. Right. From other people

789
00:28:19,424 --> 00:28:21,684
who've got their their experience and their viewpoint.

790
00:28:21,825 --> 00:28:24,404
And I like that when we get comments,

791
00:28:24,865 --> 00:28:27,424
sometimes it's, you know, somebody who chanced across

792
00:28:27,424 --> 00:28:28,705
us and I wish they just kept their

793
00:28:28,705 --> 00:28:30,680
mouth shut and kept it pushing. But, you

794
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:31,860
know, most of the time when we get

795
00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:33,860
comments, it's well thought out as people go,

796
00:28:33,860 --> 00:28:35,460
let me share my experience. I freaking love

797
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:36,440
that. It's helpful.

798
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:39,220
And what I really like is when I,

799
00:28:39,220 --> 00:28:39,880
you know,

800
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:42,600
get

801
00:28:43,585 --> 00:28:45,265
a comment where I go, holy shit. I

802
00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:46,865
never thought about that. Like that, I'm like,

803
00:28:46,865 --> 00:28:49,525
thank you for expanding my mind for me.

804
00:28:50,144 --> 00:28:51,585
Because there are many things I think about,

805
00:28:51,585 --> 00:28:53,184
and I just don't bring up because I've

806
00:28:53,184 --> 00:28:55,825
decided personally it's not relevant, or I've said

807
00:28:55,825 --> 00:28:58,384
it 85 times, or whatever. But man, to,

808
00:28:58,384 --> 00:29:00,259
like, get a thing where I'm like, oh,

809
00:29:00,259 --> 00:29:02,099
I never thought of that. I can file

810
00:29:02,099 --> 00:29:04,759
that away now for future use. Mhmm.

811
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:07,380
Awkwardish pandas is in live chat. I have

812
00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:09,059
a regular day collar, but I also have

813
00:29:09,059 --> 00:29:11,984
an elastic bracelet with thin clay beads that

814
00:29:11,984 --> 00:29:13,605
spell out daddy's baby girl

815
00:29:13,904 --> 00:29:16,384
in Morse code. Oh, wow. Now that is

816
00:29:16,384 --> 00:29:18,565
brilliant. That's brilliant. Mhmm. Mhmm.

817
00:29:18,865 --> 00:29:20,865
Yep. Special code to say what you know

818
00:29:20,865 --> 00:29:23,424
it says, but most people would never clock.

819
00:29:23,424 --> 00:29:25,000
I fucking love that shit. I'm telling you

820
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,779
kinky people are creative people,

821
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:27,980
you know.

822
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,319
Okay. So that is the only topic related

823
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:32,299
things. Okay.

824
00:29:34,679 --> 00:29:36,779
I guess now we're just gonna freaking,

825
00:29:38,404 --> 00:29:40,164
chill. Silent in live chat. It says, my

826
00:29:40,164 --> 00:29:41,684
favorite is the quote. Why is this on

827
00:29:41,684 --> 00:29:42,404
my feed?

828
00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:43,865
Yeah.

829
00:29:44,244 --> 00:29:44,744
Yeah.

830
00:29:45,204 --> 00:29:47,365
I don't I don't engage with these comp

831
00:29:47,444 --> 00:29:49,605
comments when we get them. Usually, over in

832
00:29:49,605 --> 00:29:52,345
the kinkery, I've not experienced anything loving BDSM.

833
00:29:53,170 --> 00:29:54,930
Other than YouTube, I have gotten a couple

834
00:29:54,930 --> 00:29:57,089
tons of YouTube. But for the kinkery and

835
00:29:57,089 --> 00:29:58,309
especially on Instagram,

836
00:29:59,170 --> 00:30:01,170
every once in a while, a reel or

837
00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:02,849
even a post will just kinda, like

838
00:30:03,809 --> 00:30:06,045
it'll just take off and

839
00:30:06,505 --> 00:30:08,984
then people across the spectrum of the Internet

840
00:30:08,984 --> 00:30:10,664
are commenting, why is this on my feet?

841
00:30:10,664 --> 00:30:12,105
Why am I seeing this? What is this?

842
00:30:12,105 --> 00:30:14,345
And I think to myself, because you keep

843
00:30:14,345 --> 00:30:16,825
fucking commenting, why is this on my feet?

844
00:30:16,825 --> 00:30:18,285
Right. But thankfully

845
00:30:18,849 --> 00:30:21,169
thankfully, the kink community will always come through.

846
00:30:21,169 --> 00:30:22,849
There's always at least a couple people who

847
00:30:22,849 --> 00:30:25,169
go, because you keep commenting on this shit.

848
00:30:25,169 --> 00:30:27,089
If you don't wanna see it, shut up

849
00:30:27,089 --> 00:30:29,609
and keep scrolling. Go away. Go away. Thank

850
00:30:29,609 --> 00:30:31,169
you. Thank you. I love you so much.

851
00:30:31,169 --> 00:30:31,669
Yep.

852
00:30:32,129 --> 00:30:34,545
I tried to be a good customer service

853
00:30:34,865 --> 00:30:37,505
person. So I don't I don't usually say

854
00:30:37,505 --> 00:30:38,644
shit like that. But

855
00:30:41,025 --> 00:30:41,525
so

856
00:30:43,505 --> 00:30:44,565
but yeah.

857
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,640
So,

858
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:50,539
please,

859
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,480
if unless you're gonna say something else, I

860
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,640
was gonna say, please tell everybody why you

861
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,380
were justifiably

862
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,359
grumpy today. Okay. Because in both podcast intros,

863
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:02,460
I was like, JB is so fucking grumpy

864
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:03,434
for good

865
00:31:04,475 --> 00:31:07,035
reason. So Well, you know, Kayla told you

866
00:31:07,035 --> 00:31:08,975
earlier about the YouTube.

867
00:31:09,595 --> 00:31:11,755
Oh, which did make me grumpy for sure.

868
00:31:11,755 --> 00:31:13,674
And, you know, it was kind of last

869
00:31:13,674 --> 00:31:15,275
minute that we were actually gonna sit down

870
00:31:15,275 --> 00:31:16,095
and do this.

871
00:31:17,355 --> 00:31:19,599
So I sat down and started doing my

872
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:21,920
my thing. I'm pulling out the lights. I,

873
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,920
you know, fired up the mixing board and

874
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,299
and powered on the computer.

875
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,099
Computer comes up

876
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,519
and it was explaining to me why it

877
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:33,380
could not be updated to

878
00:31:33,704 --> 00:31:34,204
Windows

879
00:31:34,865 --> 00:31:35,365
11.

880
00:31:36,025 --> 00:31:37,565
And it went into,

881
00:31:38,744 --> 00:31:40,365
setting up the new updates.

882
00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:44,025
Then it asked me to buy Microsoft three

883
00:31:44,025 --> 00:31:45,704
sixty five, and it asked me to get

884
00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:46,204
into

885
00:31:46,585 --> 00:31:49,350
OneDrive and blah blah blah blah down the

886
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:52,954
line. Finally got through and nothing would run

887
00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,557
on the computer. And I started digging the,

888
00:31:57,008 --> 00:32:00,611
you know, we had a problem a little

889
00:32:00,611 --> 00:32:04,214
while back with the hard drive being full.

890
00:32:04,294 --> 00:32:05,894
And I went through and I I cleaned

891
00:32:05,894 --> 00:32:07,835
it and, you know, got as much down

892
00:32:07,974 --> 00:32:09,355
to to keep it working.

893
00:32:10,375 --> 00:32:11,355
The the latest

894
00:32:13,815 --> 00:32:14,954
the latest updates

895
00:32:15,335 --> 00:32:16,714
have have refilled

896
00:32:17,174 --> 00:32:18,234
the hard drive.

897
00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:21,690
I went through and did a cleanup of

898
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:22,990
all temp files and

899
00:32:23,529 --> 00:32:25,869
compressed the drive and blahdy blah blah blah

900
00:32:26,490 --> 00:32:29,309
and, got it running so we can function

901
00:32:29,369 --> 00:32:30,109
here today.

902
00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:32,170
But, yeah, it did not have me in

903
00:32:32,170 --> 00:32:33,070
the best mood.

904
00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:34,625
No. It didn't.

905
00:32:35,244 --> 00:32:37,644
Mm-mm. I still contend we need some sort

906
00:32:37,644 --> 00:32:38,625
of flag system,

907
00:32:39,005 --> 00:32:40,684
like a green flag that you wave is

908
00:32:40,684 --> 00:32:43,825
like, yes. I'm I'm taking I'm accepting communication

909
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:47,164
at this time. Yellow flag proceed with caution.

910
00:32:47,164 --> 00:32:49,359
But I want then a a separate flag.

911
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:50,480
I don't know what color it would be

912
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,839
or what it would look like look like,

913
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,919
where you're like, I am busy and also

914
00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:55,940
pissed off about it. Do not

915
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,140
do not approach.

916
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,700
Yeah. Thankfully

917
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,220
thankfully,

918
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:02,579
I did

919
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,440
somehow

920
00:33:04,244 --> 00:33:06,244
I don't know, did I catch the vibe

921
00:33:06,244 --> 00:33:07,625
or was I just like,

922
00:33:08,325 --> 00:33:10,345
I don't think I have anything actually meaningful

923
00:33:10,484 --> 00:33:12,484
to say, so I'll wait till he's done.

924
00:33:12,484 --> 00:33:14,825
I don't know what it was. Some sixth

925
00:33:14,884 --> 00:33:16,184
sense told me,

926
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:18,090
shut your fucking mouth. Yeah. Leave him the

927
00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:20,670
fuck alone. Because when I did finally gently

928
00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:22,509
reach out,

929
00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:24,650
I guess I did it in just the

930
00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:26,430
right way at just the right time where

931
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:27,950
you were clearly

932
00:33:28,664 --> 00:33:31,404
annoyed, but not at me. Right. Right. Right.

933
00:33:31,545 --> 00:33:32,045
Yep.

934
00:33:32,985 --> 00:33:34,105
So yeah. Now we,

935
00:33:36,424 --> 00:33:39,065
we we definitely need to, look into getting

936
00:33:39,065 --> 00:33:41,485
a new hard drive Yeah. In the computer.

937
00:33:41,945 --> 00:33:43,805
No if, ands, or buts about it.

938
00:33:44,609 --> 00:33:46,049
So I'm gonna have to see what we

939
00:33:46,049 --> 00:33:47,829
need to do about that. Mhmm.

940
00:33:49,089 --> 00:33:50,369
You know, I was hoping to put it

941
00:33:50,369 --> 00:33:51,750
off as long as I could,

942
00:33:52,289 --> 00:33:54,609
but, not long enough for my my book.

943
00:33:54,609 --> 00:33:56,289
But you know? So then I need you

944
00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:57,984
to get back out there and make a

945
00:33:57,984 --> 00:33:59,904
shit ton more toys. We got a Black

946
00:33:59,904 --> 00:34:01,924
Friday sale coming. Yeah. Yeah.

947
00:34:02,304 --> 00:34:02,804
Yeah.

948
00:34:03,424 --> 00:34:05,444
Yeah. I mean, I I even looked into,

949
00:34:06,304 --> 00:34:08,565
if it's possible to, like, install

950
00:34:09,025 --> 00:34:12,085
the Microsoft browser, you know, Edge. Mhmm.

951
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:14,599
And, I do find that fascinating. They call

952
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:16,220
their browser Edge. I know.

953
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:18,360
That's not the kind of edging that I

954
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,880
want in my life, but sure. No. No.

955
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,380
No.

956
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,400
And, it is possible to remove it. Would

957
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,380
have to download,

958
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,579
third party

959
00:34:26,605 --> 00:34:28,765
apps to do it. Microsoft doesn't want you

960
00:34:28,765 --> 00:34:30,125
to do it. Hell no. They're not gonna

961
00:34:30,125 --> 00:34:33,005
make it easy on you. And, apparently, it

962
00:34:33,005 --> 00:34:34,224
is so integrated

963
00:34:34,844 --> 00:34:37,724
into the system Mhmm. That you could have

964
00:34:37,724 --> 00:34:38,224
some

965
00:34:39,005 --> 00:34:39,505
issues

966
00:34:39,805 --> 00:34:42,719
Of course. After. Yeah. Of course. Right?

967
00:34:43,579 --> 00:34:44,079
So

968
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:45,760
yeah.

969
00:34:47,579 --> 00:34:49,099
I mean, it does feel a little bit

970
00:34:49,099 --> 00:34:51,019
like the universe was like, y'all are not

971
00:34:51,019 --> 00:34:52,719
recording this week, and we went

972
00:34:53,179 --> 00:34:54,079
watch us.

973
00:34:55,099 --> 00:34:57,074
I I'm gonna tease JB just a little

974
00:34:57,074 --> 00:34:57,574
bit.

975
00:34:57,954 --> 00:34:59,795
Uh-oh. So we have not decided what we're

976
00:34:59,795 --> 00:35:01,014
doing for next week

977
00:35:01,474 --> 00:35:02,375
for the stream.

978
00:35:03,875 --> 00:35:05,795
And and that's a conversation we were supposed

979
00:35:05,795 --> 00:35:07,554
to have before the stream, but then he

980
00:35:07,554 --> 00:35:10,695
had, like Technical issues. And righteous indignation

981
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:12,019
as he should.

982
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,160
So we haven't had the conversation yet. But

983
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,340
when we what brought up the conversation

984
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,820
was when JB had a grumpy moment

985
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,119
and was like, well, I was talking about

986
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,360
streaming. He was, well, you know, next week

987
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,775
is a holiday week. I I went, who

988
00:35:24,775 --> 00:35:26,614
the fuck are you talking to? It was

989
00:35:26,614 --> 00:35:27,114
like,

990
00:35:27,815 --> 00:35:30,855
we we have previously nine of these where

991
00:35:30,855 --> 00:35:33,755
we have always streamed the day before Thanksgiving.

992
00:35:33,815 --> 00:35:35,655
If you wanna not do that, that's cool.

993
00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,414
I'm willing to have that conversation. That's not

994
00:35:37,414 --> 00:35:38,074
a problem.

995
00:35:39,059 --> 00:35:40,739
I was like, why are you mad at

996
00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:43,219
me? Like, I'm making you work. It's not

997
00:35:43,219 --> 00:35:46,019
it's not like I'm I'm stressed or anything

998
00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:48,660
heading into Black Friday, you know, and don't

999
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:50,260
have a thing on my mind to worry

1000
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:51,699
about. And here's the thing. Well, I think

1001
00:35:51,699 --> 00:35:53,460
what has slowly happened, one, we do not

1002
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:55,184
focus on sex toys like we used to.

1003
00:35:55,184 --> 00:35:55,684
Yeah.

1004
00:35:56,465 --> 00:35:58,164
I think you got burnt out

1005
00:35:58,465 --> 00:36:00,704
and I Oh, I definitely got burnt out

1006
00:36:00,704 --> 00:36:03,525
on that. I, if I have the,

1007
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:05,204
pathological

1008
00:36:05,505 --> 00:36:07,525
demand avoidance slash pervasive

1009
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,280
demand for autonomy, PDA for anybody who knows.

1010
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,900
If I have that, it is coming out

1011
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:15,720
in review

1012
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:17,400
product reviews because

1013
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:19,400
I,

1014
00:36:20,385 --> 00:36:21,985
get very I have over the years, I've

1015
00:36:21,985 --> 00:36:24,945
gotten very twitchy on feeling an obligation to

1016
00:36:24,945 --> 00:36:26,704
use a product and then tell you what

1017
00:36:26,704 --> 00:36:28,144
I think. I used to fucking love it.

1018
00:36:28,144 --> 00:36:29,585
I used to be like, hell yeah. Let's

1019
00:36:29,585 --> 00:36:31,505
try a new sensation. Can we kink this

1020
00:36:31,505 --> 00:36:33,505
up? This will be great. And these days,

1021
00:36:33,505 --> 00:36:34,485
I'm just like,

1022
00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:36,769
I don't wanna be obligated to a company

1023
00:36:36,769 --> 00:36:38,769
who don't give a fuck about me Yeah.

1024
00:36:38,849 --> 00:36:40,690
To to try this when I'm not feeling.

1025
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:42,130
I think a part of that was all

1026
00:36:42,130 --> 00:36:44,610
these years prior to finally getting, you know,

1027
00:36:44,610 --> 00:36:45,829
HRT and all that,

1028
00:36:46,449 --> 00:36:50,414
of having such low desire for anything sexual

1029
00:36:50,795 --> 00:36:52,554
that then to be like, oh, but here,

1030
00:36:52,554 --> 00:36:54,715
go go try that vibrator. Yeah. You don't

1031
00:36:54,715 --> 00:36:56,155
give a fuck. You're not in the the

1032
00:36:56,155 --> 00:36:57,594
mood for it, but go try it. I

1033
00:36:57,594 --> 00:36:59,355
just I I think what what did it

1034
00:36:59,355 --> 00:37:00,014
for me

1035
00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:02,489
was the fleshlight fiasco.

1036
00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:06,569
You had so many fleshlights.

1037
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:08,089
My god.

1038
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:10,469
Was it one of those I don't want

1039
00:37:10,469 --> 00:37:12,405
anything on my dick right now? Just leave

1040
00:37:12,405 --> 00:37:13,065
my dick

1041
00:37:13,804 --> 00:37:14,304
alone.

1042
00:37:15,045 --> 00:37:17,065
Just touch me anywhere else but there.

1043
00:37:17,605 --> 00:37:19,864
It was a it it was a paid

1044
00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:22,885
It was. Toy review. Not review, like, we

1045
00:37:22,885 --> 00:37:24,965
love this, but, like, review in what does

1046
00:37:24,965 --> 00:37:26,244
it feel like? How what is it to

1047
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,050
use? Like, one of those in informative things

1048
00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:29,910
we got paid as freelance writers,

1049
00:37:30,449 --> 00:37:32,550
and JB is my test dick. Like,

1050
00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:34,690
I used to put that dick out for

1051
00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:36,930
hire. Like Right. Fine. And then he you

1052
00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:38,630
received what was a box of

1053
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:39,945
thirteen, sixteen?

1054
00:37:45,144 --> 00:37:48,025
Fleshlights out there. There there was there was

1055
00:37:48,025 --> 00:37:49,565
eight in the next box,

1056
00:37:51,224 --> 00:37:53,465
and then there was another box after that.

1057
00:37:53,465 --> 00:37:55,230
And I don't remember what was in that,

1058
00:37:55,309 --> 00:37:57,650
but it was a fucking shitload of flashlights.

1059
00:37:57,789 --> 00:37:58,449
And between

1060
00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:01,550
those and then the ones you already owned,

1061
00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:03,250
you then had duplicate flashlights.

1062
00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:06,130
Yeah. Yeah. There were duplicates in there.

1063
00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:08,670
Oh my god. I know. Hey. The you

1064
00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:09,889
know what? I'll say this.

1065
00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:11,090
That job,

1066
00:38:11,684 --> 00:38:13,204
which was oh my god. I got to

1067
00:38:13,204 --> 00:38:14,405
a point I was so tired of lube.

1068
00:38:14,405 --> 00:38:16,164
I was testing lubes all the time. I

1069
00:38:16,164 --> 00:38:17,684
was like Yeah. Just leave me the fuck

1070
00:38:17,684 --> 00:38:19,144
alone. Panty vibrators?

1071
00:38:21,045 --> 00:38:23,285
I found ones I like, like, legitimately like,

1072
00:38:23,285 --> 00:38:24,825
but by the end of it, you're like,

1073
00:38:25,045 --> 00:38:27,349
get get everything away from my clit. Just

1074
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:28,890
get everything away from my clit.

1075
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:30,910
But that job came in a time where

1076
00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:33,510
we were like, we will do almost anything

1077
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:34,170
for money.

1078
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:36,010
We have bills to pay.

1079
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:38,925
And so I'm glad you did it. Mhmm.

1080
00:38:39,164 --> 00:38:41,164
But I also respect the fact that you're

1081
00:38:41,164 --> 00:38:41,664
like,

1082
00:38:43,164 --> 00:38:45,565
I don't no. I'm not I'm not testing

1083
00:38:45,565 --> 00:38:47,344
a a sex toy for anybody.

1084
00:38:47,965 --> 00:38:48,465
I

1085
00:38:49,085 --> 00:38:50,684
I get it. And can you you wanna

1086
00:38:50,684 --> 00:38:52,844
know something? Out of all over the years,

1087
00:38:52,844 --> 00:38:54,179
out of all the toys that

1088
00:38:55,059 --> 00:38:56,739
that we have tested and, you know, to

1089
00:38:56,739 --> 00:38:58,519
play with so many so many toys,

1090
00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:00,599
there's probably about four or five

1091
00:39:00,980 --> 00:39:02,980
at this point That you're like that I

1092
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,980
that I go back to regularly. I know.

1093
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:06,579
Because what I found over the years is

1094
00:39:06,579 --> 00:39:08,179
I could like something in the moment. I

1095
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,985
could find I it could do its job.

1096
00:39:09,985 --> 00:39:10,644
It could,

1097
00:39:11,505 --> 00:39:13,045
I could I could find

1098
00:39:13,344 --> 00:39:14,164
I could genuinely

1099
00:39:14,545 --> 00:39:16,304
experience good things and find good things to

1100
00:39:16,304 --> 00:39:18,224
say and see what kind of people might,

1101
00:39:18,224 --> 00:39:19,985
like, really enjoy this and what kind of

1102
00:39:19,985 --> 00:39:22,065
people might not really enjoy this. But it

1103
00:39:22,065 --> 00:39:23,920
would not there were toys that in the

1104
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,360
moment, I'm like, yeah. This worked. This was

1105
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,640
good. I could see good things for us,

1106
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,760
and then I would never pick it up

1107
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,840
again. Then there are some choice I really

1108
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,440
love, but I'm like, man, it takes a

1109
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,980
lot of work to use this.

1110
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,920
I really love it. But I'm basically, by

1111
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,934
the time I am flat in a bed

1112
00:39:37,934 --> 00:39:39,775
in the dark, I'm tired, and now I'm

1113
00:39:39,775 --> 00:39:41,695
lazy, and I'm not working that hard. I

1114
00:39:41,695 --> 00:39:43,394
just thought. I just thought.

1115
00:39:43,934 --> 00:39:44,434
Mhmm.

1116
00:39:45,535 --> 00:39:46,035
So

1117
00:39:47,614 --> 00:39:49,535
silent asks, how did you not just go

1118
00:39:49,535 --> 00:39:51,909
totally numb? You do have to space these

1119
00:39:51,909 --> 00:39:52,650
things out. Yeah.

1120
00:39:52,949 --> 00:39:55,590
Yeah. But there was a time for for

1121
00:39:55,590 --> 00:39:56,869
at least a couple of weeks. I think

1122
00:39:56,869 --> 00:39:57,769
we were on deadline

1123
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:59,929
because he would test it,

1124
00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:02,170
and he would record the,

1125
00:40:02,789 --> 00:40:04,789
video review, and then I would write the

1126
00:40:04,789 --> 00:40:05,289
article.

1127
00:40:05,815 --> 00:40:07,655
So I would be interviewing him about his

1128
00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:08,155
fleshlight.

1129
00:40:09,015 --> 00:40:11,015
Poor thing. He would have used the fleshlight,

1130
00:40:11,015 --> 00:40:12,454
and he'd be like, I gotta go fucking

1131
00:40:12,454 --> 00:40:13,894
make pals. I got work to do. He'd

1132
00:40:13,894 --> 00:40:15,494
be in the shed, the shop in the

1133
00:40:15,494 --> 00:40:17,414
backyard, and I'd be standing there with a

1134
00:40:17,414 --> 00:40:19,460
notepad going, okay. So here's the questions I

1135
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:22,119
have to answer about this. Yeah. That's why

1136
00:40:23,139 --> 00:40:25,859
Yeah. I was interviewing him. Yeah. And I

1137
00:40:25,859 --> 00:40:27,299
wanna say there was a stretch where we

1138
00:40:27,299 --> 00:40:28,119
were on deadline

1139
00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:30,579
where I think you were testing a new

1140
00:40:30,579 --> 00:40:32,119
one every day. Yeah.

1141
00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:34,394
Every day. Every day. And I was like,

1142
00:40:34,394 --> 00:40:35,675
at a at one point I finally went,

1143
00:40:35,675 --> 00:40:37,355
can you even tell the difference between these

1144
00:40:37,355 --> 00:40:38,655
things that they bought?

1145
00:40:39,515 --> 00:40:40,015
Nope.

1146
00:40:42,235 --> 00:40:44,155
And yet you like Fleshlight. Yeah. Like you

1147
00:40:44,155 --> 00:40:46,420
like the the one you did. Well,

1148
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,179
I know. I know.

1149
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:50,319
I know. It's a little bit I can't

1150
00:40:50,319 --> 00:40:52,079
look at them anymore. It's a little bit

1151
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:52,579
like

1152
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:54,880
you ate a food you loved, but then

1153
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,559
that food gave you food poisoning, and now

1154
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:58,784
you can never eat it again. Again. Yeah.

1155
00:40:58,784 --> 00:41:00,385
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get

1156
00:41:00,385 --> 00:41:01,525
it. I get it. Yeah.

1157
00:41:02,545 --> 00:41:04,864
I would be more inclined these days to

1158
00:41:04,864 --> 00:41:05,364
try

1159
00:41:06,065 --> 00:41:08,704
kink toys that we don't make. I'm not

1160
00:41:08,704 --> 00:41:10,864
trying like I don't I'm fine with anybody

1161
00:41:10,864 --> 00:41:12,440
who goes to somebody who would be a

1162
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,039
competitor of us and buys their wooden paddle.

1163
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,900
I wanna try somebody else's wooden paddle.

1164
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,199
But I'll try a leather paddle, and I'll

1165
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,599
try this paddle, and I'll try but I

1166
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:23,400
we are not at a stage where we

1167
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,400
are being sought out nor are we seeking

1168
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,065
out review products. I'd rather buy it myself.

1169
00:41:28,445 --> 00:41:31,085
Mhmm. But that's not a priority purchase these

1170
00:41:31,085 --> 00:41:33,485
days even though it would be a business

1171
00:41:33,485 --> 00:41:33,985
experience.

1172
00:41:35,965 --> 00:41:38,139
I don't really wanna send our account the

1173
00:41:38,139 --> 00:41:40,940
receipts from, like, the stock room. I really

1174
00:41:40,940 --> 00:41:42,239
don't. I really don't.

1175
00:41:42,539 --> 00:41:43,900
Actually, I really feel like if we did

1176
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:45,739
it, I would do it from small I

1177
00:41:45,739 --> 00:41:47,659
would do it from small businesses. Yeah. The

1178
00:41:47,659 --> 00:41:49,500
stock room and all those, they don't they

1179
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:52,074
don't need hype from us anymore. We're affiliates

1180
00:41:52,135 --> 00:41:53,815
of Stockroom. I found some great things from

1181
00:41:53,815 --> 00:41:55,655
Stockroom. But if I were to get back

1182
00:41:55,655 --> 00:41:57,815
in the the review game Mhmm. It would

1183
00:41:57,815 --> 00:42:00,054
be from but I I don't want somebody

1184
00:42:00,054 --> 00:42:01,655
to send me something and go review it

1185
00:42:01,655 --> 00:42:03,574
if you want. That's obligation. I don't want

1186
00:42:03,574 --> 00:42:05,820
that. I wanna go find a product, try

1187
00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:07,820
it, go, hell, yeah. We fucking love this

1188
00:42:07,820 --> 00:42:08,320
shit,

1189
00:42:08,619 --> 00:42:10,860
and then talk about it. Yeah. Because we

1190
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:13,840
wanted to, not because someone asked us to.

1191
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:16,160
And that's a me thing, y'all. I'd Yeah.

1192
00:42:19,579 --> 00:42:20,079
So

1193
00:42:20,744 --> 00:42:23,465
So yeah. That's not something we've, done for

1194
00:42:23,465 --> 00:42:25,385
a while. Mm-mm. You know? And,

1195
00:42:25,865 --> 00:42:28,204
yeah. It just kinda that kinda that just

1196
00:42:29,305 --> 00:42:31,224
that did me in. Yeah. I I get

1197
00:42:31,224 --> 00:42:32,765
it. I completely get it.

1198
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,280
Do you know what we still have? Y'all,

1199
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,640
this is so sad. Do you know what

1200
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,619
we still have?

1201
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,160
That we bought with our own fucking money,

1202
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,599
and we have never tried it. It's still

1203
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:43,059
in the plastic, still in the box.

1204
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,980
The electrostim,

1205
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,214
I want to get,

1206
00:42:47,614 --> 00:42:48,355
cock rings.

1207
00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:50,335
You're right. That we've never tried. We've never

1208
00:42:50,335 --> 00:42:52,655
tried those. You're right. You're right. And you've

1209
00:42:52,655 --> 00:42:54,734
tried so like, just stuff that you have

1210
00:42:54,734 --> 00:42:56,255
that you love that you've bought for yourself.

1211
00:42:56,255 --> 00:42:57,775
You've put so many things on your cock,

1212
00:42:57,775 --> 00:42:59,074
and you've not done that.

1213
00:42:59,579 --> 00:43:01,680
I think you forgot the existence. I did.

1214
00:43:01,739 --> 00:43:04,140
I forget the existence until I'm rummaging around

1215
00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:05,820
in the closet. In the closet. I wanna

1216
00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:07,820
say we have a few toys left over

1217
00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:09,820
that were just sent to us that never

1218
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:12,400
went anywhere that have never been opened.

1219
00:43:13,635 --> 00:43:15,235
And I don't know. Do we wanna try

1220
00:43:15,235 --> 00:43:16,215
them? Do we wanna

1221
00:43:16,755 --> 00:43:18,914
I keep I think our original plan was

1222
00:43:18,914 --> 00:43:19,815
to do a giveaway.

1223
00:43:20,594 --> 00:43:21,954
And maybe that's what we'll do at some

1224
00:43:21,954 --> 00:43:23,094
point, is do a giveaway.

1225
00:43:25,394 --> 00:43:25,894
But,

1226
00:43:27,449 --> 00:43:29,530
yeah, we really do need to clean up

1227
00:43:29,530 --> 00:43:30,190
that closet.

1228
00:43:30,889 --> 00:43:31,710
Yes. Yes.

1229
00:43:33,610 --> 00:43:34,110
But

1230
00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:35,929
yeah. I,

1231
00:43:36,730 --> 00:43:39,929
it's weird now because for years, it was

1232
00:43:39,929 --> 00:43:41,755
our favorite sex toys of the year. That

1233
00:43:41,755 --> 00:43:43,355
was what the whole we would do it

1234
00:43:43,355 --> 00:43:44,954
right before Black Friday so we could tell

1235
00:43:44,954 --> 00:43:46,715
folks what the sales were if they wanted

1236
00:43:46,715 --> 00:43:48,954
any of these things. Yeah. And we don't

1237
00:43:48,954 --> 00:43:50,574
do that anymore. No. Mm-mm.

1238
00:43:51,994 --> 00:43:53,835
I also could see if you decide you

1239
00:43:53,835 --> 00:43:55,275
don't want an episode next week and we

1240
00:43:55,275 --> 00:43:56,260
take the week off. Off. When I tell

1241
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:57,800
you we take the week off, I mean,

1242
00:43:57,940 --> 00:43:59,160
just we're not doing

1243
00:44:00,099 --> 00:44:02,340
episodes. We are we'll be busting our ass.

1244
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:03,860
The only day we will actually take off

1245
00:44:03,860 --> 00:44:05,320
next week will be Thanksgiving.

1246
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:07,079
Mhmm. And that

1247
00:44:07,539 --> 00:44:10,184
if you're cooking literally all day long, is

1248
00:44:10,344 --> 00:44:11,565
it a day off?

1249
00:44:12,184 --> 00:44:15,085
Mhmm. I don't think so. But, yeah, we're

1250
00:44:15,224 --> 00:44:18,265
not behind on our product stuff for Black

1251
00:44:18,265 --> 00:44:20,344
Friday. There's just so much To do. To

1252
00:44:20,344 --> 00:44:22,125
do. Yeah. To get ready. And then,

1253
00:44:23,065 --> 00:44:23,565
either,

1254
00:44:24,425 --> 00:44:26,125
you know, the the,

1255
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:28,099
economic blackout protest

1256
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,799
will may be a factor. Mhmm. I respect

1257
00:44:30,799 --> 00:44:32,239
it if it's a factor. I just hate

1258
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,039
it for, like, my business. Yeah. Now I

1259
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:36,799
I do I do know the people that

1260
00:44:36,799 --> 00:44:38,819
I have seen talking about it

1261
00:44:39,724 --> 00:44:40,625
have been saying,

1262
00:44:41,565 --> 00:44:42,304
their their,

1263
00:44:43,164 --> 00:44:44,925
benchmark, I guess, is a way of saying

1264
00:44:44,925 --> 00:44:45,425
it.

1265
00:44:46,125 --> 00:44:49,005
Boycott the big corporations and and shop small

1266
00:44:49,005 --> 00:44:51,324
and local. Sure. And just for those few

1267
00:44:51,324 --> 00:44:53,280
days, not like forever boycott if you Yeah.

1268
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,960
I know. Can't because sometimes you just can't

1269
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,200
for forever boycott. I would love to never

1270
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,140
have to shop at a Walmart again, but

1271
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,000
Yeah. I have Walmart budget. I have Aldi

1272
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,460
budget, so we go to Walmart.

1273
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,340
Mhmm.

1274
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,900
But there's that. And then also, typically,

1275
00:45:07,824 --> 00:45:08,644
we are not

1276
00:45:08,945 --> 00:45:11,285
our busiest day is not actual Black Friday,

1277
00:45:11,425 --> 00:45:13,985
the the day after Thanksgiving. Mhmm. Most folks

1278
00:45:13,985 --> 00:45:15,445
are, like, doing their

1279
00:45:16,065 --> 00:45:18,304
Amazon deals, their Walmart. They're, like, buying the

1280
00:45:18,304 --> 00:45:20,864
computer, buying the gift for the kid. We

1281
00:45:20,864 --> 00:45:22,005
tend to pick up

1282
00:45:22,545 --> 00:45:23,045
Saturday

1283
00:45:24,059 --> 00:45:25,660
a little bit. I mean, we have sales,

1284
00:45:25,660 --> 00:45:27,840
but it's not, like, overwhelming. But that Sunday,

1285
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:28,800
typically

1286
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,340
Into Monday. I will go into Monday, and

1287
00:45:31,340 --> 00:45:33,340
I'll I'll start processing orange. I'll just have

1288
00:45:33,340 --> 00:45:35,420
boxes. Every year, it's been more boxes, but

1289
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:37,625
I'll just start stacking the boxes. Yeah.

1290
00:45:38,324 --> 00:45:40,244
One year, it was the la the first

1291
00:45:40,244 --> 00:45:41,364
time I did it was the last time

1292
00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:43,224
I fucking did it. I paid

1293
00:45:43,684 --> 00:45:44,425
to have,

1294
00:45:45,285 --> 00:45:47,224
postal service come pick up

1295
00:45:47,684 --> 00:45:48,985
our shit ton of boxes

1296
00:45:49,445 --> 00:45:51,170
at once instead of,

1297
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:54,030
at at a specific time, like, not just

1298
00:45:54,030 --> 00:45:54,769
our normal

1299
00:45:55,150 --> 00:45:56,210
time for pickup

1300
00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:58,769
when our mail carrier is usually here.

1301
00:45:59,150 --> 00:46:00,750
And that way you basically get a dedicated

1302
00:46:00,750 --> 00:46:02,269
truck. Like, they might be picking up other

1303
00:46:02,269 --> 00:46:04,194
things, but that truck is designed to be

1304
00:46:04,194 --> 00:46:06,594
able to hold your boxes Right. Instead of

1305
00:46:06,594 --> 00:46:08,355
your mail carrier might come in and not

1306
00:46:08,355 --> 00:46:09,815
have room for your boxes.

1307
00:46:10,434 --> 00:46:12,914
Right? So I paid for it, and then

1308
00:46:12,914 --> 00:46:14,835
they didn't arrive. And then they didn't arrive.

1309
00:46:14,835 --> 00:46:16,434
And then they didn't arrive. And I wanna

1310
00:46:16,434 --> 00:46:18,135
say it was the next fucking day

1311
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:20,090
they came for my boxes, and you don't

1312
00:46:20,090 --> 00:46:21,530
get a refund when they don't come on

1313
00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:23,449
the day you paid for them to be

1314
00:46:23,449 --> 00:46:25,070
there. I'm so mad.

1315
00:46:25,369 --> 00:46:26,890
So what we do is I will not

1316
00:46:26,890 --> 00:46:29,130
burden our mail carrier with more. I think

1317
00:46:29,130 --> 00:46:30,590
my max is eight boxes

1318
00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:32,329
because I don't know what kind of space

1319
00:46:32,329 --> 00:46:34,010
she has. She's always been good to us.

1320
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:36,474
She's friendly. Yeah. Like, we like our mail

1321
00:46:36,474 --> 00:46:38,635
carrier. She she still talks to us when

1322
00:46:38,635 --> 00:46:40,715
she sees us. Right. Haven't scared her off

1323
00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:43,434
yet. But anything past eight, I'm running to

1324
00:46:43,434 --> 00:46:44,414
the post office.

1325
00:46:46,074 --> 00:46:48,894
And usually the Monday after Thanksgiving

1326
00:46:49,434 --> 00:46:51,809
Yeah. It's a it sometimes takes three or

1327
00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:53,409
four trips. I love it. It's a great

1328
00:46:53,409 --> 00:46:55,569
fucking problem to have. It's a great problem

1329
00:46:55,569 --> 00:46:57,489
to have. But you only get that kind

1330
00:46:57,489 --> 00:46:59,569
of outcome if you bust ass leading up

1331
00:46:59,569 --> 00:47:01,250
to it to have something for folks to

1332
00:47:01,250 --> 00:47:01,750
buy.

1333
00:47:02,130 --> 00:47:02,630
Yeah.

1334
00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:05,589
Yeah. Well, next and next next week is,

1335
00:47:07,385 --> 00:47:09,864
even with the with, you know, the holiday

1336
00:47:09,864 --> 00:47:12,364
and and the shopping day and all that,

1337
00:47:14,585 --> 00:47:17,385
the youngest and I had been, volunteering at

1338
00:47:17,385 --> 00:47:19,019
the Humane Society. Mhmm.

1339
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,099
And next week,

1340
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:24,140
part of that we,

1341
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,680
not only have helped out at the shelter,

1342
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,760
but also at the, thrift store. They have

1343
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,840
a thrift store. Yes. And I you go

1344
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,235
for all kinds of reasons, but I think

1345
00:47:32,235 --> 00:47:34,075
you go now because every time you come

1346
00:47:34,075 --> 00:47:35,914
home, you come home with another 50¢ CD

1347
00:47:35,914 --> 00:47:37,934
for something you did not have before. Right.

1348
00:47:38,635 --> 00:47:39,135
Yeah.

1349
00:47:39,994 --> 00:47:41,914
And that that's kinda been at at the,

1350
00:47:42,315 --> 00:47:44,655
at the thrift store. That's kinda what

1351
00:47:45,179 --> 00:47:46,699
we have. We we've,

1352
00:47:48,139 --> 00:47:50,539
inherited a corner of the the thrift stop.

1353
00:47:50,539 --> 00:47:52,139
Yeah. They walk in and they go, you

1354
00:47:52,139 --> 00:47:54,539
go clean that corner over there. And and

1355
00:47:54,539 --> 00:47:56,639
that corner consists of the DVDs,

1356
00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:58,719
the VHS tapes.

1357
00:47:59,339 --> 00:48:00,594
I need to send you with a a

1358
00:48:00,594 --> 00:48:03,074
list of DVDs I would love to have

1359
00:48:03,074 --> 00:48:04,835
come home. Yeah. Keep keep an eye out.

1360
00:48:04,835 --> 00:48:05,335
Sure.

1361
00:48:05,635 --> 00:48:07,974
And, what else? Vinyl albums,

1362
00:48:09,235 --> 00:48:09,735
books.

1363
00:48:11,315 --> 00:48:14,039
Yeah. That that's that's and and the kids

1364
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:14,780
section.

1365
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,179
Which I'm sure is a hot mess.

1366
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,880
Yeah. Mhmm. So, you know, it's,

1367
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,579
yeah. You know, it's funny. The the albums

1368
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,260
that they have come in,

1369
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,094
nothing that would interest me. Mhmm. I, I,

1370
00:48:28,094 --> 00:48:29,295
you know, when I when I'm going through

1371
00:48:29,295 --> 00:48:30,255
them, one of the things I have to

1372
00:48:30,255 --> 00:48:31,394
go through would be surprised

1373
00:48:31,934 --> 00:48:32,594
how many,

1374
00:48:33,295 --> 00:48:34,114
album jackets

1375
00:48:34,574 --> 00:48:36,034
do not have anything in them.

1376
00:48:36,894 --> 00:48:38,574
Now do you think they came in like

1377
00:48:38,574 --> 00:48:40,494
that or somebody was like, oh, I'll just

1378
00:48:40,494 --> 00:48:41,635
leave the jacket here.

1379
00:48:41,989 --> 00:48:44,069
I I think they most likely came in

1380
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:45,510
like that. Maybe somebody just had, like, a

1381
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:47,030
big ole and they've dumped it and didn't

1382
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:49,269
check? Yeah. So what do you do when

1383
00:48:49,269 --> 00:48:50,150
you find those?

1384
00:48:50,789 --> 00:48:51,929
Trash. Okay.

1385
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:53,449
Makes sense. Trash.

1386
00:48:53,909 --> 00:48:54,409
And,

1387
00:48:55,684 --> 00:48:57,465
you know the I

1388
00:48:59,925 --> 00:49:01,545
when I'm going through these albums,

1389
00:49:02,085 --> 00:49:02,585
like,

1390
00:49:03,045 --> 00:49:04,985
this is the kind of stuff my

1391
00:49:06,164 --> 00:49:07,224
grandmother and

1392
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:09,650
mom listened to and give me my Yeah.

1393
00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:11,409
The I don't know if the mic's picking

1394
00:49:11,409 --> 00:49:12,630
up. Lola is crying

1395
00:49:12,929 --> 00:49:13,909
from another room.

1396
00:49:14,530 --> 00:49:16,230
She's crying as if she's been abandoned.

1397
00:49:16,769 --> 00:49:19,569
She's alone and forgotten. Nobody will ever love

1398
00:49:19,569 --> 00:49:20,710
her ever again.

1399
00:49:21,554 --> 00:49:23,974
She'll die alone in that comfy,

1400
00:49:24,355 --> 00:49:26,694
used to be covered in leather, but now

1401
00:49:27,315 --> 00:49:29,734
that don't look like leather no more, couch.

1402
00:49:30,114 --> 00:49:31,655
That is definitely hers.

1403
00:49:32,994 --> 00:49:33,494
Alone.

1404
00:49:33,875 --> 00:49:35,175
It's tragic, really.

1405
00:49:35,635 --> 00:49:37,094
My heart breaks for her.

1406
00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:39,820
I do wonder though if it's something about

1407
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:41,739
her getting older and when she wakes up

1408
00:49:41,739 --> 00:49:43,920
or she looks around, she genuinely thinks she's

1409
00:49:44,019 --> 00:49:46,940
alone. I know. Anyway, you were talking about

1410
00:49:47,099 --> 00:49:50,059
Anyway. Humane deciding for the holiday. Yeah. And

1411
00:49:50,059 --> 00:49:51,440
the, you know, next

1412
00:49:52,275 --> 00:49:54,994
next week with Black Friday coming up, they

1413
00:49:54,994 --> 00:49:56,454
are looking for extra help.

1414
00:49:56,835 --> 00:49:58,194
And where was the extra help? Where did

1415
00:49:58,194 --> 00:49:59,315
they need the extra help? Was it at

1416
00:49:59,315 --> 00:50:00,835
the thrift store? At the thrift store. Yeah.

1417
00:50:00,835 --> 00:50:02,755
Because it'll be really busy. Yeah. Because they're

1418
00:50:02,755 --> 00:50:04,214
they're expecting a busy

1419
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:06,989
Black Friday there. I would imagine. I mean,

1420
00:50:06,989 --> 00:50:08,829
with with the economy being the way it

1421
00:50:08,829 --> 00:50:11,390
is and people struggling financially, if you're gonna

1422
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:13,950
even attempt to do any Christmas shopping, you're

1423
00:50:13,950 --> 00:50:15,710
gonna go Yeah. You know? You know? I

1424
00:50:15,710 --> 00:50:16,610
imagine thrift

1425
00:50:16,910 --> 00:50:18,130
store. I I I have noticed

1426
00:50:18,575 --> 00:50:19,075
since,

1427
00:50:19,695 --> 00:50:20,434
have been,

1428
00:50:21,375 --> 00:50:23,555
you know, going there to the thrift store.

1429
00:50:24,655 --> 00:50:27,215
I am it it is even during the

1430
00:50:27,215 --> 00:50:27,715
week,

1431
00:50:28,494 --> 00:50:30,675
it has gotten busier and busier.

1432
00:50:31,579 --> 00:50:33,199
I I saw one person,

1433
00:50:34,219 --> 00:50:36,000
leaving there. They had filled their

1434
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:36,800
cart

1435
00:50:37,579 --> 00:50:38,320
with books.

1436
00:50:38,780 --> 00:50:39,280
Mhmm.

1437
00:50:40,219 --> 00:50:42,380
You know? So, yeah, I I imagine that

1438
00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:43,454
it is gonna be

1439
00:50:44,255 --> 00:50:46,894
pretty busy. Mhmm. So yeah. They're they're looking

1440
00:50:46,894 --> 00:50:47,215
for,

1441
00:50:47,934 --> 00:50:50,755
extra help the day before Thanksgiving and then

1442
00:50:51,454 --> 00:50:53,454
the day after. You're gonna be busy the

1443
00:50:53,454 --> 00:50:54,675
day before. Yeah.

1444
00:50:55,215 --> 00:50:56,974
Yeah. And if we don't have all the

1445
00:50:56,974 --> 00:50:58,655
product ready, you're gonna be busy the day

1446
00:50:58,655 --> 00:50:59,155
after.

1447
00:51:01,670 --> 00:51:02,170
So,

1448
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:04,329
you know, I'd,

1449
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:07,190
I'd like to, Yeah. I know. You know,

1450
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:09,589
help out. They're they're really they're really good

1451
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:11,909
people there and, you know, and, you know,

1452
00:51:11,909 --> 00:51:13,130
yeah, you know, I don't

1453
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:14,329
know.

1454
00:51:15,534 --> 00:51:18,175
The CDs that they have, they're yeah. I

1455
00:51:18,175 --> 00:51:20,335
I love going through the CDs because those

1456
00:51:20,335 --> 00:51:22,574
are at least one every time. Those those

1457
00:51:22,574 --> 00:51:24,355
are more, you know, where I'm

1458
00:51:24,815 --> 00:51:26,494
so, yeah. I I I seem to find

1459
00:51:26,735 --> 00:51:27,715
and it's funny,

1460
00:51:28,099 --> 00:51:29,539
I go up there and the the the

1461
00:51:29,539 --> 00:51:31,640
one woman who works the registry is like,

1462
00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:33,059
how do you do it? You always find

1463
00:51:33,059 --> 00:51:33,960
the best CDs.

1464
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:39,539
Because you're meticulously going through every single one

1465
00:51:39,539 --> 00:51:41,954
and checking. Is anything Because even in it.

1466
00:51:42,035 --> 00:51:44,035
Even some of yeah. Exactly. Gotta check to

1467
00:51:44,035 --> 00:51:46,295
make sure something's in it and yeah.

1468
00:51:47,315 --> 00:51:48,614
Same thing. So,

1469
00:51:49,954 --> 00:51:50,454
yeah.

1470
00:51:52,675 --> 00:51:53,815
That's what I mean.

1471
00:51:56,469 --> 00:51:57,989
I am hoping to,

1472
00:51:59,110 --> 00:52:01,289
have a quiet start to Black Friday.

1473
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:04,070
Mhmm. Because I know the sales don't come

1474
00:52:04,070 --> 00:52:05,530
in fast and furious. Now

1475
00:52:05,989 --> 00:52:08,894
being under a new system with a site

1476
00:52:08,894 --> 00:52:10,835
that loads faster

1477
00:52:11,295 --> 00:52:14,755
and hopefully is better organized than our previous

1478
00:52:14,974 --> 00:52:18,175
site Yeah. Maybe. Makes things easier for folks

1479
00:52:18,175 --> 00:52:18,835
to shop.

1480
00:52:19,135 --> 00:52:20,114
Maybe. Yeah.

1481
00:52:20,574 --> 00:52:21,869
But yeah. Hope so.

1482
00:52:23,230 --> 00:52:24,690
There goes Lola again.

1483
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:26,670
You couldn't entice her in here to be

1484
00:52:26,670 --> 00:52:28,590
with us? I'll I'll try now. It's her

1485
00:52:28,590 --> 00:52:30,349
couch time. Is that is that what I'm

1486
00:52:30,510 --> 00:52:32,590
She was actually in her crate. Oh. Oh,

1487
00:52:32,590 --> 00:52:34,130
wow. She's in her crate. Okay.

1488
00:52:34,815 --> 00:52:36,335
Bed bed. Oh, yeah. And now she's at

1489
00:52:36,335 --> 00:52:38,894
the door. Come on. Come on. Please do

1490
00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:41,135
not barrel into the tripod. Oh, she's barreling.

1491
00:52:41,135 --> 00:52:41,954
She's barreling.

1492
00:52:43,375 --> 00:52:45,454
That's a woman on a mission. I bet

1493
00:52:45,454 --> 00:52:46,974
she has to pee. I'm not gonna get

1494
00:52:46,974 --> 00:52:48,755
one hit Same girl. Same.

1495
00:52:49,989 --> 00:52:51,210
I know.

1496
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:53,769
Really? To the dog.

1497
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:55,130
To the dog.

1498
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:57,210
Oh my gosh.

1499
00:53:00,309 --> 00:53:02,724
So but yeah. No. I the the people

1500
00:53:02,724 --> 00:53:04,184
there are really nice and,

1501
00:53:05,045 --> 00:53:05,704
you know,

1502
00:53:06,324 --> 00:53:08,744
and I'm always I I always look. I

1503
00:53:10,484 --> 00:53:12,324
see too what they have in, like, the,

1504
00:53:13,684 --> 00:53:16,005
kitchen stuff. Yes. I'm on the hunt for

1505
00:53:16,085 --> 00:53:17,159
from the thrift store. I don't

1506
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:20,119
new for a rice cooker. Yeah. That's what

1507
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:22,299
I want. I want a rice cooker. Mhmm.

1508
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,859
I mean, we found our steam mop

1509
00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:27,319
there. Yeah. $10. Actually, I think we got

1510
00:53:27,319 --> 00:53:28,839
it cheaper. I think they gave us, like,

1511
00:53:28,839 --> 00:53:30,219
a deal. Yeah.

1512
00:53:30,974 --> 00:53:32,974
I have a little baby crock pot now,

1513
00:53:32,974 --> 00:53:34,974
a smaller one. Not the mini, but, like,

1514
00:53:34,974 --> 00:53:35,875
a small one.

1515
00:53:36,815 --> 00:53:38,655
I gotta decide what dip I'm gonna make

1516
00:53:38,815 --> 00:53:41,775
Mhmm. For for munching Mhmm. On Thanksgiving. I

1517
00:53:41,775 --> 00:53:42,835
know. I don't know.

1518
00:53:43,295 --> 00:53:44,494
But I'm gonna use that for that. You

1519
00:53:44,494 --> 00:53:45,295
know, we could

1520
00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:48,450
well, it would have to be this weekend.

1521
00:53:49,390 --> 00:53:51,170
We'd have to go could go to

1522
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:52,410
the

1523
00:53:53,150 --> 00:53:53,650
market.

1524
00:53:54,030 --> 00:53:56,510
Mhmm. They had somebody selling the the packets

1525
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:58,670
of mix. Yeah. Those mixes are usually cold

1526
00:53:58,670 --> 00:54:00,430
mixes. I'm looking for, like, a hot dip.

1527
00:54:00,430 --> 00:54:02,289
Okay. Lots of melty cheese.

1528
00:54:04,534 --> 00:54:07,255
Silent. I assumed I was Silent asked, what

1529
00:54:07,255 --> 00:54:08,775
kind of rice cooker? The basic one or

1530
00:54:08,775 --> 00:54:10,694
the fancy Japanese one? I didn't know there

1531
00:54:10,694 --> 00:54:12,474
was a fancy Japanese one.

1532
00:54:13,174 --> 00:54:15,414
I so I'm assuming I'm looking for, like,

1533
00:54:15,414 --> 00:54:16,554
the basic one.

1534
00:54:17,789 --> 00:54:19,789
So because I didn't know I didn't that

1535
00:54:19,789 --> 00:54:21,570
makes sense that there would be different types,

1536
00:54:21,789 --> 00:54:22,849
but I didn't know.

1537
00:54:23,710 --> 00:54:25,010
For whatever reason,

1538
00:54:25,710 --> 00:54:27,969
as an adult, I have been cooking rice

1539
00:54:28,110 --> 00:54:29,789
often on not we don't eat rice a

1540
00:54:29,789 --> 00:54:31,630
lot. We eat more eat it more now

1541
00:54:31,630 --> 00:54:32,085
than we

1542
00:54:32,804 --> 00:54:34,005
used to. And I

1543
00:54:35,045 --> 00:54:37,464
it never comes out consistent. It's not

1544
00:54:37,764 --> 00:54:40,565
usually bad. It's usually perfectly fine, but have

1545
00:54:40,565 --> 00:54:41,784
I a 100%

1546
00:54:42,324 --> 00:54:44,099
created a dark,

1547
00:54:44,579 --> 00:54:45,079
hard,

1548
00:54:45,539 --> 00:54:47,619
crunchy layer at the bottom of of a

1549
00:54:47,619 --> 00:54:50,579
pot before? Uh-huh. And, you know, prior to

1550
00:54:50,579 --> 00:54:51,700
doing that, I'd be like, oh, I know

1551
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:53,539
how to cook rice. Clearly, I don't. So

1552
00:54:53,539 --> 00:54:55,140
I'm like, I just I need something to

1553
00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:57,539
make it idiot proof so that I cannot

1554
00:54:57,539 --> 00:54:59,905
fuck up. I will follow the instructions and

1555
00:54:59,905 --> 00:55:01,585
push the button and move on with my

1556
00:55:01,585 --> 00:55:03,525
life and let the machine do the work.

1557
00:55:04,545 --> 00:55:05,045
Okay.

1558
00:55:05,344 --> 00:55:07,664
So that she's they she explained what the,

1559
00:55:07,984 --> 00:55:09,125
fancy one does.

1560
00:55:10,144 --> 00:55:11,444
Buttons for white rice,

1561
00:55:11,744 --> 00:55:13,264
brown rice, oatmeal, and

1562
00:55:13,984 --> 00:55:14,429
Basic.

1563
00:55:15,550 --> 00:55:17,550
Just a button. Yeah. Don't let me fuck

1564
00:55:17,550 --> 00:55:18,130
it up.

1565
00:55:21,469 --> 00:55:24,210
Yeah. I've I have tried a buffalo chicken

1566
00:55:24,510 --> 00:55:26,670
dip in the past for those in livestream

1567
00:55:26,670 --> 00:55:27,329
who are

1568
00:55:27,949 --> 00:55:30,474
advising it. I thought about it,

1569
00:55:31,974 --> 00:55:33,195
but then I was like,

1570
00:55:33,655 --> 00:55:36,235
do I want something that's more just melted

1571
00:55:36,295 --> 00:55:38,135
cheese? I don't know. I found a couple

1572
00:55:38,135 --> 00:55:39,735
of places I was gonna ask you, hey.

1573
00:55:39,735 --> 00:55:41,815
Which of these sound good to you? But,

1574
00:55:41,815 --> 00:55:42,795
yes, a chicken

1575
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:44,579
buffalo dip

1576
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:46,800
is typically top of all the lists I

1577
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,480
find. Yeah. Yeah. We have tried one in

1578
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,760
the past, but I didn't try it in

1579
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,000
the slow cooker that then kept it warm.

1580
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,519
Right. I baked it, I think, in the

1581
00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:54,019
oven,

1582
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,825
and then we put it between us. Us.

1583
00:55:56,825 --> 00:55:58,664
We were, like, watching movies, and so then

1584
00:55:58,664 --> 00:55:59,144
it

1585
00:55:59,704 --> 00:56:00,204
Congealed.

1586
00:56:00,505 --> 00:56:01,325
Right. So

1587
00:56:02,505 --> 00:56:04,925
maybe I'd have a better experience.

1588
00:56:06,345 --> 00:56:06,845
Yeah.

1589
00:56:07,385 --> 00:56:08,285
Oh, the youngest,

1590
00:56:10,025 --> 00:56:11,085
talking about Thanksgiving

1591
00:56:11,545 --> 00:56:13,250
Day on the ride home from we had

1592
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:14,070
to go out today.

1593
00:56:14,449 --> 00:56:16,849
And, I said, okay. So for desserts, we're

1594
00:56:16,849 --> 00:56:18,210
gonna have an apple pie. Oh, I need

1595
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:19,329
to put that on the list. I need

1596
00:56:19,329 --> 00:56:20,849
to buy the apple pie. Yeah. I am

1597
00:56:20,929 --> 00:56:23,109
I do not make apple pies. We're gonna

1598
00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:25,625
gonna have an apple pie because you and

1599
00:56:25,625 --> 00:56:27,784
the oldest love an apple pie, and I

1600
00:56:27,784 --> 00:56:29,224
will eat apple pie. If we have it,

1601
00:56:29,224 --> 00:56:31,545
I'll eat it. I found a recipe for

1602
00:56:31,545 --> 00:56:33,864
peanut butter fudge, very basic. I'm sure it's

1603
00:56:33,864 --> 00:56:35,945
like the standard recipe. But I was like,

1604
00:56:35,945 --> 00:56:36,445
oh,

1605
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,960
I can do that. So we're gonna make

1606
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,880
peanut butter fudge. And then I asked the

1607
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,640
youngest, I was like, okay, so you're not

1608
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,019
gonna touch the apple pie.

1609
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,680
You may or may not like the peanut

1610
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,780
butter fudge. Is there a dessert you'd like?

1611
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,260
And the youngest is bringing back

1612
00:56:50,445 --> 00:56:52,684
the, pumpkin cheesecake that we used to do.

1613
00:56:52,684 --> 00:56:54,485
Okay. Alright. So on top of everything else,

1614
00:56:54,485 --> 00:56:56,704
I gotta make a cheesecake next to me.

1615
00:57:00,605 --> 00:57:03,820
Yeah. So you know, silent, I I love

1616
00:57:03,820 --> 00:57:06,380
a spinach artichoke dip. JB does not like

1617
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:08,000
a spinach artichoke dip.

1618
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:09,760
No. No? No. No.

1619
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:12,000
Mm-mm.

1620
00:57:12,619 --> 00:57:14,000
But I did see another

1621
00:57:14,625 --> 00:57:15,125
dip

1622
00:57:15,744 --> 00:57:16,465
that was

1623
00:57:17,025 --> 00:57:18,565
I'd have to go look it up again.

1624
00:57:19,025 --> 00:57:19,605
A bacon

1625
00:57:20,784 --> 00:57:21,284
cheesy

1626
00:57:21,664 --> 00:57:22,164
spinach

1627
00:57:22,465 --> 00:57:24,465
dip without the artichokes. And I meant to

1628
00:57:24,465 --> 00:57:26,224
ask you if it was the spinach but

1629
00:57:26,224 --> 00:57:27,125
not the artichokes,

1630
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,780
would it be okay? Okay.

1631
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:32,260
See. Look at us. We're getting vegetables in

1632
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,300
with our two pounds of melted cheese. Whatever.

1633
00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:36,019
Whatever.

1634
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,619
Yeah. This weekend,

1635
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,239
I have to finalize everything I need to

1636
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:40,800
get for our,

1637
00:57:41,815 --> 00:57:42,954
not at all traditional

1638
00:57:43,335 --> 00:57:44,474
Thanksgiving dinner.

1639
00:57:45,175 --> 00:57:46,614
And it's like all the perishables. I gotta

1640
00:57:46,614 --> 00:57:47,815
get some heavy cream. I gotta get my

1641
00:57:47,815 --> 00:57:49,335
cream cheese. I got stuff that's gotta go

1642
00:57:49,335 --> 00:57:50,074
in the refrigerator.

1643
00:57:50,454 --> 00:57:51,994
But I gotta, like, we

1644
00:57:52,614 --> 00:57:54,215
Compeller hot water. I'm getting it all this

1645
00:57:54,215 --> 00:57:55,769
week, and I'm not going to the grocery

1646
00:57:55,769 --> 00:57:58,349
store again until after Thanksgiving. Man,

1647
00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:00,890
I've I've got to weigh that pork shoulder

1648
00:58:00,890 --> 00:58:02,570
and see what what's gonna be what, how

1649
00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:04,190
long I actually have to cook it.

1650
00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:06,489
And I am I'm

1651
00:58:07,449 --> 00:58:09,014
I was considering asking you this, but I

1652
00:58:09,014 --> 00:58:09,514
think

1653
00:58:09,974 --> 00:58:12,795
I'm I'm doing enough to save, on dishwashing.

1654
00:58:13,174 --> 00:58:15,414
I usually when we when we cook whatever

1655
00:58:15,414 --> 00:58:17,655
we cook, I just use our serving dishes

1656
00:58:17,655 --> 00:58:19,494
and our pots and pans or whatever. I

1657
00:58:19,494 --> 00:58:20,714
am buying the aluminum

1658
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:24,199
pans to cook shit. Yeah. This year. Yeah.

1659
00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:25,179
I don't I don't

1660
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,400
I don't blame. Anything I don't have to

1661
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,860
wash when we're done? Yeah.

1662
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:31,420
Cool. Yeah.

1663
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,719
Mhmm. Which is probably why I'll sleep in

1664
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:35,984
day after on Black Friday. If I've got

1665
00:58:35,984 --> 00:58:37,664
everything set up, the emails have gone out,

1666
00:58:37,664 --> 00:58:39,425
the social media is up, the Mhmm. I

1667
00:58:39,425 --> 00:58:40,625
don't think I'm gonna do a coupon code.

1668
00:58:40,625 --> 00:58:42,224
I'm just gonna make it all on sale.

1669
00:58:42,224 --> 00:58:46,005
Yeah. Whatever whatever. Unless unless something absolutely positively

1670
00:58:46,065 --> 00:58:48,644
has no other choice, I'm sleeping into.

1671
00:58:51,220 --> 00:58:53,480
Yeah. Because from from Black Friday until

1672
00:58:54,260 --> 00:58:56,420
usually about three days before Christmas, we will

1673
00:58:56,420 --> 00:58:58,579
be hustling. Or at least as early as

1674
00:58:58,579 --> 00:59:00,599
the, fur babies let me sleep.

1675
00:59:01,059 --> 00:59:02,039
There is that.

1676
00:59:02,579 --> 00:59:03,640
There is that.

1677
00:59:05,135 --> 00:59:06,894
Ella was at the door. Your alarm went

1678
00:59:06,894 --> 00:59:07,795
off at six.

1679
00:59:08,094 --> 00:59:10,014
It sounded like it startled both of us

1680
00:59:10,094 --> 00:59:11,454
Yeah. Out of the deep sleep. And Ella

1681
00:59:11,454 --> 00:59:12,275
was already

1682
00:59:12,655 --> 00:59:14,414
At the door. She heard that alarm. She's

1683
00:59:14,414 --> 00:59:16,894
at the bedroom door. And she's not fed

1684
00:59:16,894 --> 00:59:19,420
at six. Y'all, she's fed, like, 06:15. Yeah.

1685
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:21,660
But you, like, wake up, put some clothes

1686
00:59:21,660 --> 00:59:23,099
on, rub the soap out of your eyes

1687
00:59:23,420 --> 00:59:25,260
I I start your coffee? I start my

1688
00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:26,480
coffee first. Yep.

1689
00:59:29,180 --> 00:59:31,224
But she was like, I'm hungry. And that's

1690
00:59:31,224 --> 00:59:33,545
every day. That yes. That's every day. I

1691
00:59:33,545 --> 00:59:33,864
have,

1692
00:59:34,344 --> 00:59:34,905
I have,

1693
00:59:35,784 --> 00:59:36,284
upset

1694
00:59:36,585 --> 00:59:37,405
miss Ella.

1695
00:59:40,905 --> 00:59:43,269
That is true. Silent. He said sleeping in

1696
00:59:43,269 --> 00:59:45,109
for me is a very daring 8AM. That

1697
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:46,089
is true. Mhmm.

1698
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:48,630
I tried to sleep in a couple days

1699
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:50,710
ago, and I woke up at 07:15.

1700
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:52,089
I was like, woo.

1701
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:54,869
Look at me go. Seven holes in, like,

1702
00:59:54,869 --> 00:59:57,269
a fifteen in the morning. Yeah. There was

1703
00:59:57,269 --> 00:59:58,235
a time

1704
00:59:58,535 --> 00:59:59,914
in my early twenties,

1705
01:00:01,655 --> 01:00:02,474
mid twenties,

1706
01:00:02,855 --> 01:00:04,075
early to mid twenties.

1707
01:00:04,855 --> 01:00:06,715
I used to Forty years ago? Yeah.

1708
01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:09,655
You know, I was,

1709
01:00:11,175 --> 01:00:12,954
always out on the weekends.

1710
01:00:14,579 --> 01:00:16,039
And I would sleep

1711
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:20,599
till one, 02:00 in the afternoon. Mhmm. Mhmm.

1712
01:00:22,019 --> 01:00:22,519
Yeah.

1713
01:00:22,819 --> 01:00:24,359
I had to stop doing that

1714
01:00:25,059 --> 01:00:25,559
after

1715
01:00:25,859 --> 01:00:28,259
I birthed the first kid. That those days

1716
01:00:28,259 --> 01:00:29,319
of sleeping in,

1717
01:00:29,675 --> 01:00:32,094
long fucking gone. Long fucking gone.

1718
01:00:32,474 --> 01:00:32,974
Yeah.

1719
01:00:33,675 --> 01:00:34,175
Mm-mm.

1720
01:00:34,474 --> 01:00:36,655
That was that was never an option again.

1721
01:00:37,994 --> 01:00:40,315
I somehow turned myself into I would not

1722
01:00:40,315 --> 01:00:43,135
call myself an early bird in that, like,

1723
01:00:43,579 --> 01:00:44,559
chipper way.

1724
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:45,920
I'm a begrudging

1725
01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:47,440
early

1726
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:50,960
I don't know. Vulture? I don't know.

1727
01:00:51,260 --> 01:00:52,940
Like, I'm up, but I'm not happy to

1728
01:00:52,940 --> 01:00:53,980
be here. Yeah.

1729
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:55,820
And now I don't know how to turn

1730
01:00:55,820 --> 01:00:57,244
it off. So

1731
01:00:58,344 --> 01:01:00,764
no. I think I have pissed off Ella.

1732
01:01:01,545 --> 01:01:03,565
So I think it started with

1733
01:01:04,264 --> 01:01:06,664
I didn't we now use the pine pellets

1734
01:01:06,664 --> 01:01:07,565
for their litter.

1735
01:01:09,050 --> 01:01:09,789
It's cheaper.

1736
01:01:10,090 --> 01:01:12,429
It smells nominally better.

1737
01:01:12,730 --> 01:01:14,889
They track less of it. We changed it

1738
01:01:14,889 --> 01:01:16,969
for the tracking purposes. The litter we were

1739
01:01:16,969 --> 01:01:18,349
using, I fucking loved,

1740
01:01:18,730 --> 01:01:20,170
but, oh my god, it was everywhere. It

1741
01:01:20,170 --> 01:01:21,389
was all through our house,

1742
01:01:21,954 --> 01:01:23,875
because it was that sand kind of texture.

1743
01:01:23,875 --> 01:01:25,714
So we've moved to pine pellets. I think

1744
01:01:25,714 --> 01:01:27,414
we talked about this several weeks ago because

1745
01:01:27,875 --> 01:01:30,114
we had a semi health crisis because Ella

1746
01:01:30,114 --> 01:01:31,494
was very upset. Okay.

1747
01:01:31,875 --> 01:01:34,114
So I like the pine pellets also. It's

1748
01:01:34,114 --> 01:01:36,769
easier, in my opinion, to change out as

1749
01:01:36,769 --> 01:01:39,109
as needed to go fresh pine pellets.

1750
01:01:39,570 --> 01:01:42,449
Well, apparently, I waited a little too long

1751
01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:44,869
for Ella's liking, and somehow it was now

1752
01:01:45,889 --> 01:01:47,809
not the right texture under her feet for

1753
01:01:47,809 --> 01:01:49,269
her to pee.

1754
01:01:50,449 --> 01:01:52,214
I think too soft somehow.

1755
01:01:52,675 --> 01:01:54,514
I didn't think that existed. So Mhmm. I

1756
01:01:54,514 --> 01:01:56,675
was catching her, like, peeing in places she

1757
01:01:56,675 --> 01:01:58,755
should not be peeing. I went, ah, shit.

1758
01:01:58,755 --> 01:02:00,195
Let's just I gotta do it. Let me

1759
01:02:00,195 --> 01:02:02,195
switch everything over. So I switch everything over.

1760
01:02:02,195 --> 01:02:03,795
But we have a trick with Ella to

1761
01:02:03,795 --> 01:02:05,815
get her to use a one specific

1762
01:02:06,739 --> 01:02:08,819
litter box where I put some of the

1763
01:02:08,819 --> 01:02:10,280
old litter in

1764
01:02:10,739 --> 01:02:13,300
to fake her out that, oh, no. This

1765
01:02:13,380 --> 01:02:14,659
you can put your paws on this and

1766
01:02:14,659 --> 01:02:16,339
you can pee. She doesn't have a problem

1767
01:02:16,339 --> 01:02:18,819
taking a shit in pine pellet, but something

1768
01:02:18,819 --> 01:02:21,105
about peeing, it she's offended.

1769
01:02:21,965 --> 01:02:22,785
And apparently,

1770
01:02:23,244 --> 01:02:25,005
that still is not correct, and I didn't

1771
01:02:25,005 --> 01:02:25,824
put enough

1772
01:02:26,125 --> 01:02:27,344
of the old litter

1773
01:02:27,644 --> 01:02:29,965
to do the fake out because she peed

1774
01:02:29,965 --> 01:02:32,285
out two things. She peed outside the litter

1775
01:02:32,285 --> 01:02:32,785
box

1776
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,000
till I put more of the old litter

1777
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,500
in.

1778
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,559
And and she apparently peed on some laundry

1779
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,000
that had not made it into the laundry

1780
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,119
basket yet. How did I discover this? I

1781
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,200
put this morning, very quickly got dressed because

1782
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,585
I had had to go do something early

1783
01:02:48,585 --> 01:02:50,025
morning. I don't usually have to do things

1784
01:02:50,025 --> 01:02:51,304
that early. I was like, oh, you have

1785
01:02:51,304 --> 01:02:53,144
to, like, put on grown up clothes by,

1786
01:02:53,144 --> 01:02:55,625
like, 09:00 this morning. So I just shoved

1787
01:02:55,625 --> 01:02:57,625
on, like, old pj's to get out of

1788
01:02:57,625 --> 01:02:59,224
the bed and go make breakfast and whatever

1789
01:02:59,224 --> 01:02:59,724
whatever.

1790
01:03:00,219 --> 01:03:02,140
And I'm sitting there eating my breakfast, and

1791
01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:03,420
every time I would turn my head, I'd

1792
01:03:03,420 --> 01:03:05,500
be like, oh my god. Something smells like

1793
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:08,559
like gross. Something is what is happening?

1794
01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:10,460
And we had an open window, and I

1795
01:03:10,460 --> 01:03:12,264
thought, is something outside? I was like, like,

1796
01:03:12,264 --> 01:03:13,945
did somebody make a mess under the dining

1797
01:03:13,945 --> 01:03:15,644
room table and I haven't seen?

1798
01:03:16,905 --> 01:03:19,224
No. I had thrown on a shirt that

1799
01:03:19,224 --> 01:03:19,724
apparently

1800
01:03:20,905 --> 01:03:22,744
Ella had peed on. And how can I

1801
01:03:22,744 --> 01:03:24,984
accuse Ella of this? Because Onyx does not

1802
01:03:24,984 --> 01:03:27,160
have this issue. Litter is not her food

1803
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,059
is her issue,

1804
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:29,980
not her litter. Mm-mm.

1805
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:34,039
I've not never yanked off a piece of

1806
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:36,140
clothing faster than when I asked to

1807
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,804
pee. In. It was something with pee on

1808
01:03:38,804 --> 01:03:41,125
it. It was dry. It was old pee.

1809
01:03:41,125 --> 01:03:42,885
And apparently, it was just a small portion

1810
01:03:42,885 --> 01:03:44,964
because it was not an overwhelming I had

1811
01:03:44,964 --> 01:03:46,484
to turn my head and I would smell

1812
01:03:46,484 --> 01:03:48,244
it. I was like, what is that smell?

1813
01:03:48,244 --> 01:03:49,704
Where is it coming from?

1814
01:03:50,484 --> 01:03:52,105
Fucking Ella. Goddamn.

1815
01:03:52,484 --> 01:03:52,984
Yeah.

1816
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,500
She's she's a trip, that cat.

1817
01:03:57,679 --> 01:03:58,179
Yes.

1818
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,140
Yes.

1819
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,460
Anyhow.

1820
01:04:06,114 --> 01:04:08,195
Yeah. I'm I'm actually holding back for shit

1821
01:04:08,195 --> 01:04:09,235
I could be talking about because we still

1822
01:04:09,235 --> 01:04:11,394
have the Friday night livestream. That's true. That's

1823
01:04:11,394 --> 01:04:11,894
true.

1824
01:04:12,434 --> 01:04:14,675
Same same. To brag on the oldest. He

1825
01:04:14,675 --> 01:04:16,114
had a concert last night. Mhmm. We can

1826
01:04:16,114 --> 01:04:18,195
talk about that Friday. I'd like to map

1827
01:04:18,195 --> 01:04:20,434
out in great detail, for whatever reason, because

1828
01:04:20,434 --> 01:04:23,369
it amuses me, what are we're having, for

1829
01:04:23,369 --> 01:04:23,869
Thanksgiving.

1830
01:04:24,650 --> 01:04:26,809
But I don't wanna do that now because

1831
01:04:26,809 --> 01:04:28,190
we got a whole other livestream

1832
01:04:28,809 --> 01:04:30,510
coming in a couple of days.

1833
01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:33,710
But you are doing the

1834
01:04:34,089 --> 01:04:36,089
it's the equivalent of the, okay, I need

1835
01:04:36,089 --> 01:04:37,394
to get off the phone with you,

1836
01:04:37,954 --> 01:04:40,515
and ahs. Like, okay. Wrap this up. Yep.

1837
01:04:40,515 --> 01:04:42,434
Baby girl, wrap this shit up. Come on

1838
01:04:42,434 --> 01:04:42,934
now.

1839
01:04:43,795 --> 01:04:45,875
Thank thank you for being polite enough not

1840
01:04:45,875 --> 01:04:48,114
to, in the middle of recording, go, come

1841
01:04:48,114 --> 01:04:49,015
on. Let's go.

1842
01:04:51,224 --> 01:04:51,974
I appreciate

1843
01:04:52,355 --> 01:04:54,119
that. Now if I was on the other

1844
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:55,880
side of the camera, I'd be doing that

1845
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,260
shit. I'm like, mhmm.

1846
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:00,440
And I cannot promise that I would not

1847
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,359
be like, if I just don't look at

1848
01:05:02,359 --> 01:05:03,579
him, I can't see.

1849
01:05:05,304 --> 01:05:05,804
Possible

1850
01:05:06,105 --> 01:05:06,605
denial.

1851
01:05:12,744 --> 01:05:13,565
Oh, god.

1852
01:05:18,909 --> 01:05:20,929
Oh, lord. Oh, my lord.

1853
01:05:21,469 --> 01:05:23,949
I wanna complain about the nap problem we've

1854
01:05:23,949 --> 01:05:26,050
had in the house that we're, like, desperately

1855
01:05:26,110 --> 01:05:27,969
trying to, like, make go away.

1856
01:05:29,150 --> 01:05:31,650
That'll be Friday night. In between, you know,

1857
01:05:31,710 --> 01:05:33,489
conversations about food and

1858
01:05:33,984 --> 01:05:35,364
nostalgic things and

1859
01:05:35,824 --> 01:05:36,484
you know?

1860
01:05:36,784 --> 01:05:37,284
Yeah.

1861
01:05:37,905 --> 01:05:38,405
So

1862
01:05:40,545 --> 01:05:42,464
but you did do make the sound and

1863
01:05:42,464 --> 01:05:44,464
do the thing. So that tells me, since

1864
01:05:44,464 --> 01:05:46,304
this is a bonus section, there's no bonus

1865
01:05:46,304 --> 01:05:48,780
section to go to. Right. You were ready

1866
01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:50,740
to be out of our bonus section Yeah.

1867
01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:52,539
Is what I'm hearing. You know? I still

1868
01:05:52,539 --> 01:05:54,699
have things to do. Same. And I got

1869
01:05:54,699 --> 01:05:57,420
cooked dinner, and I I switched at the

1870
01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:59,019
last moment what I was gonna make for

1871
01:05:59,019 --> 01:06:00,219
dinner, and I was like, oh, but I'm

1872
01:06:00,219 --> 01:06:01,739
not actually prepared to make that for dinner.

1873
01:06:01,739 --> 01:06:02,864
I don't have a good recipe

1874
01:06:03,664 --> 01:06:05,985
at my disposal. I better go find one.

1875
01:06:05,985 --> 01:06:07,985
And and we don't have anything to do

1876
01:06:07,985 --> 01:06:09,985
tonight or anywhere to go. Correct? As far

1877
01:06:09,985 --> 01:06:11,284
as I know. Good.

1878
01:06:12,465 --> 01:06:13,684
And we don't tomorrow

1879
01:06:14,144 --> 01:06:16,470
either. Right? Oh, good. I I mean Yeah.

1880
01:06:16,590 --> 01:06:17,710
I you had I don't think so. You

1881
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:18,989
might go to the humane society. I may

1882
01:06:18,989 --> 01:06:20,670
go to the humane society in the afternoon.

1883
01:06:20,670 --> 01:06:22,430
In the afternoon. Yeah. But then Friday, you

1884
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:24,750
have a doctor's appointment. Yeah. That's right. Here's

1885
01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:26,750
the thing. We have written calendars. We have

1886
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:28,989
our Google Calendar. We have reminders on our

1887
01:06:28,989 --> 01:06:30,829
phone. We're getting text messages, and we still

1888
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:33,284
can't fucking remember Yeah. What we have coming

1889
01:06:33,284 --> 01:06:34,184
up next. I know.

1890
01:06:34,644 --> 01:06:36,744
It's too much. It's too much. Yeah.

1891
01:06:37,125 --> 01:06:38,905
It is. You know, I've

1892
01:06:39,284 --> 01:06:41,864
I've got more appointments than I ever had.

1893
01:06:41,925 --> 01:06:43,525
I will give the good news. We do

1894
01:06:43,525 --> 01:06:45,000
get to have health insurance for next

1895
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,719
next year. Yeah. And it's not as awful

1896
01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:49,179
as it could have been. Yeah.

1897
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:50,780
So, yay.

1898
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,960
That was the text message I sent my

1899
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,000
mother the other week. I was like, I

1900
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,480
get to have health insurance next year. She

1901
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,934
went, oh, good. I'm so glad. She's like,

1902
01:06:59,934 --> 01:07:01,454
I was thinking of a plan b for

1903
01:07:01,454 --> 01:07:02,815
you. I was like, oh, I'd already found

1904
01:07:02,815 --> 01:07:05,074
my plan b. Plan b. Yeah. But,

1905
01:07:05,534 --> 01:07:08,355
you know I you know what kills me?

1906
01:07:08,414 --> 01:07:10,574
I'm celebrating the fact that I have health

1907
01:07:10,574 --> 01:07:13,260
insurance because it's needed in The US if

1908
01:07:13,260 --> 01:07:14,700
you want to have a chance of going

1909
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:16,780
to a fucking doctor. Yeah. And yet, I

1910
01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:19,099
know it's shitty. I know the system is

1911
01:07:19,099 --> 01:07:20,219
shitty. I know that

1912
01:07:20,860 --> 01:07:21,260
Mhmm.

1913
01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:23,340
The type of health insurance I have is

1914
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:25,500
better than it has been, but it's still

1915
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:27,985
shitty. Like, it's like, why am I I

1916
01:07:27,985 --> 01:07:30,144
have to celebrate a shitty system because at

1917
01:07:30,144 --> 01:07:31,844
least that shitty system means

1918
01:07:32,625 --> 01:07:35,264
I might have medical debt, but hopefully, I

1919
01:07:35,264 --> 01:07:37,025
won't I can still go to a doctor

1920
01:07:37,025 --> 01:07:39,125
when I desperately need to. Like,

1921
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:40,969
the dystopian

1922
01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:43,849
of it all. Like, the I you know.

1923
01:07:45,269 --> 01:07:47,110
Yeah. You know, the things things like our

1924
01:07:47,110 --> 01:07:49,429
prescriptions and stuff. You know, we keep up

1925
01:07:49,429 --> 01:07:50,090
with those.

1926
01:07:50,550 --> 01:07:52,469
Oh, yeah. I was researching what can I

1927
01:07:52,469 --> 01:07:55,635
do instead? I'd actually found some, Direct Primary

1928
01:07:55,635 --> 01:07:58,035
Cares here locally. If you're not familiar with

1929
01:07:58,035 --> 01:07:59,635
what a Direct Primary Cares, they do not

1930
01:07:59,635 --> 01:08:01,574
accept insurance. They do it as a membership

1931
01:08:01,635 --> 01:08:03,555
model. So you pay, like, an application or

1932
01:08:03,555 --> 01:08:05,155
an enrollment fee, and then you pay a

1933
01:08:05,155 --> 01:08:05,655
monthly

1934
01:08:06,530 --> 01:08:08,769
fee every month to that doctor's office, but

1935
01:08:08,769 --> 01:08:10,969
you can literally make an appointment for whatever

1936
01:08:11,250 --> 01:08:12,789
Yeah. Their practice covers.

1937
01:08:14,289 --> 01:08:16,770
But it's not major medical. It's not gonna

1938
01:08:16,770 --> 01:08:18,130
cover you going to a hospital or going

1939
01:08:18,130 --> 01:08:20,369
to a specialist. It's just for primary care

1940
01:08:20,369 --> 01:08:21,670
basic basic stuff.

1941
01:08:22,050 --> 01:08:22,864
And I was

1942
01:08:23,324 --> 01:08:24,944
like, if we have to.

1943
01:08:25,404 --> 01:08:26,765
And then I found a couple places. I

1944
01:08:26,765 --> 01:08:28,524
was like, actually, I wouldn't mind going here,

1945
01:08:28,524 --> 01:08:30,364
but we don't really wanna change our doctor.

1946
01:08:30,364 --> 01:08:31,585
We like our doctor.

1947
01:08:32,925 --> 01:08:33,984
But yeah. Mhmm.

1948
01:08:34,380 --> 01:08:38,079
So, yay, we're celebrating our awful, awful health

1949
01:08:38,220 --> 01:08:40,860
system here in The United States. I get

1950
01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:42,640
access to it for one more year

1951
01:08:43,420 --> 01:08:44,640
without going broke.

1952
01:08:48,140 --> 01:08:50,095
Holy shit. I don't know. The you know,

1953
01:08:50,095 --> 01:08:52,755
they're going, what's what's the deductible this year?

1954
01:08:52,814 --> 01:08:54,335
Oh my god. I found a plan with

1955
01:08:54,335 --> 01:08:56,335
no deductible, but we just have high co

1956
01:08:56,335 --> 01:08:58,335
pays. Yeah. Yeah. $50 to go see our

1957
01:08:58,335 --> 01:09:00,675
primary care, $100 to go see the specialist.

1958
01:09:00,734 --> 01:09:01,817
But I'm not fighting a deductible. Except we

1959
01:09:01,817 --> 01:09:01,930
have a prescription deductible, and guess what we

1960
01:09:01,930 --> 01:09:02,515
have every month? Prescriptions to get refilled.

1961
01:09:04,829 --> 01:09:06,949
A prescription deductible, and guess what we have

1962
01:09:06,949 --> 01:09:08,929
every month? Prescriptions to get refilled for everybody

1963
01:09:09,389 --> 01:09:10,050
in the family.

1964
01:09:10,670 --> 01:09:11,649
So it's imperfect.

1965
01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:14,369
Yeah. But it it It's better than nothing.

1966
01:09:14,429 --> 01:09:15,170
It's not

1967
01:09:15,630 --> 01:09:17,170
what it could've been. Right.

1968
01:09:18,185 --> 01:09:18,685
Yep.

1969
01:09:22,585 --> 01:09:23,085
Yeah.

1970
01:09:23,945 --> 01:09:25,485
Yeah. Anyway, on that note,

1971
01:09:26,505 --> 01:09:28,425
I guess we will go, and we'll be

1972
01:09:28,425 --> 01:09:29,565
back Friday night.

1973
01:09:30,345 --> 01:09:32,750
For podcast listeners, Friday night, 09:30PM

1974
01:09:32,810 --> 01:09:35,130
on YouTube. We hope, you can make it

1975
01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:35,529
and,

1976
01:09:37,289 --> 01:09:39,149
come see the chaos

1977
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:42,489
That ensues. Instead of just listening to it.

1978
01:09:42,489 --> 01:09:44,409
I feel like seeing it might be more

1979
01:09:44,409 --> 01:09:46,845
helpful because Ethan get context or whatever the

1980
01:09:46,845 --> 01:09:48,765
fuck we're talking about if one of us

1981
01:09:48,765 --> 01:09:50,685
forgets to actually describe it for people who

1982
01:09:50,685 --> 01:09:52,685
are not looking at the screen. Also, for

1983
01:09:52,685 --> 01:09:54,625
anybody who's busy, we make great background

1984
01:09:55,164 --> 01:09:55,664
noise.

1985
01:09:56,204 --> 01:09:58,140
Sometimes you'll have to stop what you're doing

1986
01:09:58,140 --> 01:09:59,579
and go, did they actually just say that?

1987
01:09:59,579 --> 01:10:01,360
And what was the context for that?

1988
01:10:01,979 --> 01:10:03,579
I get it. I get it. That's why

1989
01:10:03,579 --> 01:10:04,400
you gotta rewind.

1990
01:10:04,780 --> 01:10:05,600
You know? Right?

1991
01:10:06,860 --> 01:10:09,659
But yay. Okay. We're gonna, like Okay. Thanks

1992
01:10:09,659 --> 01:10:11,045
for being here. Yep. Thanks for hanging out

1993
01:10:11,045 --> 01:10:12,725
with us. Especially to the bitter end, especially

1994
01:10:12,725 --> 01:10:15,604
on a no topic, just pure randomness kind

1995
01:10:15,604 --> 01:10:16,264
of episode.

1996
01:10:17,284 --> 01:10:19,724
And we'll do that, the randomness Friday night.

1997
01:10:19,764 --> 01:10:21,364
Friday night. Mhmm. Hope to see you there.

1998
01:10:21,364 --> 01:10:22,904
Yep. Okay. Bye. Bye.