1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,000 You're listening to Loving BDSM podcast episode four 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,045 fifty six. K. The Lord's here with the 3 00:00:16,045 --> 00:00:17,885 one, the only, the man who puts up 4 00:00:17,885 --> 00:00:19,804 with my shit and keeps coming back for 5 00:00:19,804 --> 00:00:20,864 more, John Brownstone. 6 00:00:21,964 --> 00:00:24,445 So who's the masochist here? Yeah. I wonder 7 00:00:24,445 --> 00:00:24,945 sometimes. 8 00:00:25,725 --> 00:00:26,864 I really do. 9 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:32,939 Look. My shit putting up with my shit 10 00:00:32,939 --> 00:00:35,420 allows you to be a sadistic bastard. So 11 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:36,879 I I guess it's symbiotic 12 00:00:37,259 --> 00:00:39,179 relationship. Yeah. Yeah. It all all washes out. 13 00:00:39,179 --> 00:00:41,280 We're gonna go with symbiosis and not parasitic. 14 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:41,920 We're 15 00:00:42,299 --> 00:00:42,539 gonna 16 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:46,155 and I, remember that much from what? Biology, 17 00:00:46,155 --> 00:00:47,994 I think? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know 18 00:00:47,994 --> 00:00:50,234 what another recording of something else I did 19 00:00:50,234 --> 00:00:50,895 a physics 20 00:00:51,594 --> 00:00:52,094 reference? 21 00:00:52,715 --> 00:00:54,074 I don't know what's happening. I don't know 22 00:00:54,074 --> 00:00:54,814 what's happening. 23 00:00:55,674 --> 00:00:57,354 That's not what we're here to talk about 24 00:00:57,354 --> 00:00:59,215 this week, though. As always, 25 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:01,399 I just as always, 26 00:01:01,859 --> 00:01:04,340 life got just a touch extra chaotic this 27 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:06,500 week, so we're taking another easy week, and 28 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:08,500 we're just answering questions. I have a list 29 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:10,980 of topics y'all. I just gotta have the 30 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:11,480 the 31 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:14,084 bandwidth to do the damn research on them. 32 00:01:14,145 --> 00:01:14,645 So 33 00:01:15,265 --> 00:01:17,584 doing a Ask Us Anything, we asked for, 34 00:01:18,944 --> 00:01:21,204 questions over on that handle I fucking hate. 35 00:01:21,905 --> 00:01:23,265 And we got a few good ones, so 36 00:01:23,265 --> 00:01:24,405 this ought to be fun. 37 00:01:25,180 --> 00:01:27,260 Welcome to the Loving BDSM podcast. If this 38 00:01:27,260 --> 00:01:28,620 is your first time listening, glad to have 39 00:01:28,620 --> 00:01:30,060 you. 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But if I don't get my notes 76 00:02:41,655 --> 00:02:43,275 up, I'll say something wrong. 77 00:02:44,055 --> 00:02:46,555 So the first announcement is a programming note. 78 00:02:47,254 --> 00:02:49,335 This would have happened this week, except I 79 00:02:49,335 --> 00:02:51,760 don't know how calendars and time work. 80 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:53,680 I was convinced 81 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:56,379 this day we're on October 1 was really 82 00:02:56,379 --> 00:02:58,300 gonna be September 30. I don't know where 83 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,060 I got that from. I knew there were 84 00:03:00,060 --> 00:03:02,080 thirty days in the month. I didn't miscount. 85 00:03:02,540 --> 00:03:03,974 I just don't know how calendars 86 00:03:04,455 --> 00:03:04,855 work. 87 00:03:05,814 --> 00:03:07,655 So we're supposed to be off our summer 88 00:03:07,655 --> 00:03:08,155 schedule 89 00:03:08,615 --> 00:03:09,514 as of October, 90 00:03:10,135 --> 00:03:12,135 and next week, we will be. Mhmm. So 91 00:03:12,135 --> 00:03:14,055 we are changing the time again. This will 92 00:03:14,055 --> 00:03:14,555 be, 93 00:03:16,135 --> 00:03:17,750 it's a fourth time change really if you 94 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:19,030 think about it. We used to stream at 95 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:20,969 noon, then we went to one, 96 00:03:21,349 --> 00:03:23,110 and now we're like, nope. We need more 97 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:24,729 time on Wednesdays. We can't. 98 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:26,790 Stream days used to be the only thing 99 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:28,844 we did was stream and record Yeah. And 100 00:03:28,844 --> 00:03:30,525 and do this kind of stuff. And we 101 00:03:30,525 --> 00:03:32,844 kinda can't. We need more time, working on 102 00:03:32,844 --> 00:03:34,284 the kangry. The kangry.com. 103 00:03:34,284 --> 00:03:35,185 Yep. So 104 00:03:35,645 --> 00:03:36,384 our livestream 105 00:03:36,685 --> 00:03:39,824 time starting next week, I hope I remember 106 00:03:39,884 --> 00:03:41,185 when I schedule it, 107 00:03:41,564 --> 00:03:42,705 be 3PM 108 00:03:42,925 --> 00:03:43,425 Eastern. 109 00:03:44,010 --> 00:03:45,930 I know that's not a good time for 110 00:03:45,930 --> 00:03:47,689 some folks. For some folks, that's not your 111 00:03:47,689 --> 00:03:49,530 lunch hour. For some folks, your time zone 112 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:52,349 makes it like middle I I I know. 113 00:03:52,490 --> 00:03:54,730 If I could figure out the perfect time 114 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:56,650 that worked for all of us, I would 115 00:03:56,650 --> 00:03:58,284 do it. I have not found that time 116 00:03:58,284 --> 00:03:58,784 yet. 117 00:03:59,324 --> 00:04:01,324 That time we think will work the best 118 00:04:01,324 --> 00:04:04,064 for us because of how our days Yeah. 119 00:04:04,525 --> 00:04:05,584 Run. And, 120 00:04:07,004 --> 00:04:09,405 also, I don't mind doing the 7PM in 121 00:04:09,405 --> 00:04:11,884 the summer. Mhmm. There's some because to avoid 122 00:04:11,884 --> 00:04:13,900 the heat, but there's something about doing this 123 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:15,439 later in the day that makes 124 00:04:16,139 --> 00:04:18,300 me feel like I don't have any time 125 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:19,899 for myself. Big air quotes there. I have 126 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:21,580 plenty of time for myself. I don't I 127 00:04:21,580 --> 00:04:23,100 don't know what it is. Like, it's fun, 128 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:25,100 like, the first month. And by, like, September, 129 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:26,459 I'm like, oh my god. I'm kinda done 130 00:04:26,459 --> 00:04:27,600 with the 07:00 131 00:04:30,264 --> 00:04:32,745 thing because I like to be complicated and 132 00:04:32,745 --> 00:04:35,164 difficult. Mhmm. Okay. Next, 133 00:04:35,944 --> 00:04:39,164 our trans affirming care resource of the week. 134 00:04:39,784 --> 00:04:41,019 If you don't know what that's about, you 135 00:04:41,019 --> 00:04:42,459 gotta go listen to last week's episode. I 136 00:04:42,459 --> 00:04:44,540 promised not to be long winded on that 137 00:04:44,540 --> 00:04:46,139 after I did it the first time. 138 00:04:46,699 --> 00:04:48,000 Is Point of Pride. 139 00:04:48,379 --> 00:04:50,620 Point of Pride provides financial aid and direct 140 00:04:50,620 --> 00:04:52,305 support to trans folks in need of health 141 00:04:52,305 --> 00:04:55,104 and wellness care. We have donated to them 142 00:04:55,104 --> 00:04:57,584 ourselves. We are not utilizing them as a 143 00:04:57,584 --> 00:04:58,884 resource yet, 144 00:04:59,584 --> 00:05:01,345 for what why we would need to know 145 00:05:01,345 --> 00:05:02,544 them. If you don't know what I'm talking 146 00:05:02,544 --> 00:05:04,245 about, go listen to last week's episode. 147 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:06,639 They 148 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:08,740 provide let me I wrote it down because 149 00:05:08,740 --> 00:05:10,300 I was afraid I'd forget. Okay. There you 150 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:12,000 go. They have multiple funds 151 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:12,800 for, 152 00:05:13,259 --> 00:05:15,500 helping trans folks get, like, care they need. 153 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:17,420 So they have a surgery fund. They have 154 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:20,139 an HRT fund. That one was fascinating. That 155 00:05:20,139 --> 00:05:21,704 works like a scholarship program. 156 00:05:22,185 --> 00:05:25,144 So they are partnered with, like, four different 157 00:05:25,144 --> 00:05:27,084 places. Two or three are online. 158 00:05:27,544 --> 00:05:29,245 One or two are in person, I think, 159 00:05:29,704 --> 00:05:32,824 for gender affirming care, medical transition, stuff like 160 00:05:32,824 --> 00:05:33,324 that. 161 00:05:33,784 --> 00:05:35,305 And what they do is for eighteen months, 162 00:05:35,305 --> 00:05:37,004 they actually pay directly 163 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,400 to the telehealth or the doctor's office or 164 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,480 whoever that is that they're partnered with for 165 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,480 trans people to get their care. They pay 166 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,939 for labs. They pay for prescriptions. 167 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,060 I was like, 168 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:50,160 that's amazing. I like that. They have an 169 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,660 electrolysis 170 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,365 fund for folks who are, like, dealing with 171 00:05:53,904 --> 00:05:54,404 hair 172 00:05:54,944 --> 00:05:56,704 stuff. That one hits close to home with 173 00:05:56,704 --> 00:05:57,604 our experience 174 00:05:58,464 --> 00:05:58,964 personally, 175 00:05:59,504 --> 00:06:00,004 lately. 176 00:06:00,384 --> 00:06:02,144 They have what they call the Thrive Fund, 177 00:06:02,144 --> 00:06:04,384 which covers what the other three funds don't, 178 00:06:04,384 --> 00:06:07,379 so mostly nonmedical stuff. And then they also, 179 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,939 mail out free chest binders and femme shapewear. 180 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:14,240 So you don't have to you have to 181 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,160 apply, like, put in your information for the 182 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,560 free binders and shapewear and that's ongoing all 183 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,479 year long. And then the funds, they open 184 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:22,685 up at certain times of the year. So 185 00:06:22,745 --> 00:06:23,485 if you 186 00:06:24,105 --> 00:06:26,105 or anybody you know and care about could 187 00:06:26,105 --> 00:06:28,524 use a resource like that for, you know, 188 00:06:28,745 --> 00:06:29,805 their medical needs, 189 00:06:30,105 --> 00:06:32,345 feel free point of pride. We learned about 190 00:06:32,345 --> 00:06:34,365 them through, Mercury Stardust 191 00:06:34,990 --> 00:06:35,729 on Instagram, 192 00:06:36,110 --> 00:06:38,370 a k a the trans handy ma'am. 193 00:06:38,829 --> 00:06:39,810 They are delightful. 194 00:06:40,189 --> 00:06:41,329 Yeah. I love 195 00:06:41,709 --> 00:06:42,209 her. 196 00:06:43,709 --> 00:06:45,629 I've learned a few things from her. Oh, 197 00:06:45,629 --> 00:06:47,949 you they know what they're talking about. Yeah. 198 00:06:47,949 --> 00:06:48,449 Absolutely. 199 00:06:49,875 --> 00:06:52,115 And all it's so sweet. Like, I've I've 200 00:06:52,115 --> 00:06:54,134 watched reels where Mercury will be like, 201 00:06:54,514 --> 00:06:56,035 the person has made a reel and then 202 00:06:56,035 --> 00:06:58,355 Mercury stitched it, right, to, like, answer the 203 00:06:58,355 --> 00:06:59,875 question of this thing that's happened in their 204 00:06:59,875 --> 00:07:00,995 house and they don't know how to fix 205 00:07:00,995 --> 00:07:02,754 it. And they're, like, freaking out. They're like, 206 00:07:02,754 --> 00:07:04,035 oh my god. I'm so bad at this. 207 00:07:04,035 --> 00:07:06,000 I'll never get this fixed. And Mercury looks 208 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,680 into the camera and goes, you can do 209 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,980 this. I have complete 210 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:11,360 faith in you. I'm just like, oh my 211 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,959 god. This isn't even about me and I 212 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,199 feel better. Anyway, that's where we heard of 213 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:16,019 Point of Pride. 214 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,860 If you 215 00:07:18,214 --> 00:07:20,214 don't need or know anybody who could use 216 00:07:20,214 --> 00:07:22,214 those resources, but you wanna, like, be a 217 00:07:22,214 --> 00:07:24,535 part of something and help trans folks out 218 00:07:24,535 --> 00:07:26,454 in this fucking world we live in right 219 00:07:26,454 --> 00:07:26,954 now, 220 00:07:27,334 --> 00:07:28,154 you can donate, 221 00:07:28,534 --> 00:07:30,474 just direct cash. That's what we've done before. 222 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,800 You can volunteer the volunteer. You don't have 223 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,180 to go anywhere. You write, 224 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,020 kind and affirming 225 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:39,279 notes that go in the boxes that get 226 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:40,879 sent out to trans people who need the 227 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:41,939 shapewear and stuff. 228 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Or you can help fundraise. Like you can 229 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,814 and I was I'm gonna look into that. 230 00:07:45,814 --> 00:07:47,514 Maybe the loving BDSM community 231 00:07:47,975 --> 00:07:49,735 needs to do a fundraiser. I don't know. 232 00:07:49,735 --> 00:07:50,954 Well, no promises. 233 00:07:51,574 --> 00:07:53,414 So I said I wasn't gonna be long 234 00:07:53,414 --> 00:07:56,634 winded but nobody believed that. Did you? Okay. 235 00:07:56,854 --> 00:07:58,694 Point of pride. Link is in the places. 236 00:07:58,694 --> 00:07:59,370 That's my spiel. 237 00:07:59,930 --> 00:08:01,389 Okay. We are answering 238 00:08:01,769 --> 00:08:02,269 questions. 239 00:08:02,729 --> 00:08:03,229 K. 240 00:08:04,169 --> 00:08:05,790 And I am hoping 241 00:08:09,449 --> 00:08:11,449 that I still remember where to go to 242 00:08:11,449 --> 00:08:13,535 get them. Actually, I'm so paranoid. I screenshotted 243 00:08:13,675 --> 00:08:16,235 them in case, like, I couldn't. And I 244 00:08:16,235 --> 00:08:18,334 was like, oh, how does this work? 245 00:08:19,115 --> 00:08:19,615 Yeah. 246 00:08:20,394 --> 00:08:20,894 Okay. 247 00:08:22,475 --> 00:08:23,610 Hey. First question. 248 00:08:24,169 --> 00:08:26,329 This one is definitely for me. What kind 249 00:08:26,329 --> 00:08:27,789 of tasks do you do? 250 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:31,529 So I have the set tasks that were 251 00:08:31,529 --> 00:08:34,250 negotiated ages ago, and then I have as 252 00:08:34,250 --> 00:08:36,110 needed tasks. So the set tasks, 253 00:08:36,730 --> 00:08:38,250 I get the coffee pot ready at night. 254 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:39,745 So all JB has to do is push 255 00:08:39,745 --> 00:08:41,605 a button when he's not caffeinated 256 00:08:42,144 --> 00:08:42,644 and 257 00:08:43,024 --> 00:08:45,825 kind. He's a grumpy, grumpy polar bear without 258 00:08:45,825 --> 00:08:46,565 that coffee. 259 00:08:48,225 --> 00:08:49,904 I also get the bed ready. I pull 260 00:08:49,904 --> 00:08:52,625 it down. I put JB's pillows exactly like 261 00:08:52,625 --> 00:08:54,404 he likes before we go to bed. 262 00:08:55,070 --> 00:08:56,830 In the morning, I make the iced coffee 263 00:08:56,830 --> 00:08:58,929 for the day. I put out his probiotics 264 00:08:58,990 --> 00:09:00,350 so he will remember to take it. I 265 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:01,789 also, at the end of the day, put 266 00:09:01,789 --> 00:09:03,789 out his magnesium so he remembers to take 267 00:09:03,789 --> 00:09:04,289 that. 268 00:09:05,389 --> 00:09:07,149 Then you make the bed. I do. I 269 00:09:07,149 --> 00:09:09,195 make the bed. I have to explain myself 270 00:09:09,195 --> 00:09:10,794 if I don't make the bed. It's usually 271 00:09:10,794 --> 00:09:12,414 I have to change the sheets, 272 00:09:12,955 --> 00:09:14,794 and this is how I will remind myself 273 00:09:14,794 --> 00:09:16,714 to change the sheets. There was a time 274 00:09:16,714 --> 00:09:18,714 in life I'd never made my bed. As 275 00:09:18,714 --> 00:09:21,034 a kid, I never did. Into my twenties, 276 00:09:21,034 --> 00:09:22,394 I never did. You know when I started 277 00:09:22,394 --> 00:09:24,210 making the bed? When I got divorced and 278 00:09:24,210 --> 00:09:26,049 I had pretty sheets and nobody in my 279 00:09:26,049 --> 00:09:28,250 fucking bed. It's delightful. And then I just 280 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:29,809 it's become a habit and I like how 281 00:09:29,809 --> 00:09:31,730 it looks, so I just do it. So 282 00:09:31,730 --> 00:09:33,330 I get kinda antsy when I don't make 283 00:09:33,330 --> 00:09:34,070 the bed. 284 00:09:34,450 --> 00:09:35,590 Good habit now. 285 00:09:38,134 --> 00:09:40,375 Am I missing anything? Oh, I when we're 286 00:09:40,375 --> 00:09:42,375 in the car, I Mhmm. When you need 287 00:09:42,375 --> 00:09:43,034 your sunglasses 288 00:09:43,654 --> 00:09:45,174 even if I don't think he needs them, 289 00:09:45,174 --> 00:09:46,934 I ask, do you want your sunglasses? And 290 00:09:46,934 --> 00:09:48,455 then he decides. But I always hand them 291 00:09:48,455 --> 00:09:50,615 over. We do we have absolutely anybody with 292 00:09:50,615 --> 00:09:52,214 glasses knows what I'm talking about. Done the 293 00:09:52,402 --> 00:09:55,070 we're speeding down the highway, and I'm passing 294 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:57,730 and exchanging glasses Yeah. Like, 295 00:09:58,430 --> 00:10:01,230 in that sort of, like, don't blink, don't 296 00:10:01,230 --> 00:10:02,750 fall off the road kind of thing. That's 297 00:10:02,750 --> 00:10:04,610 when one of those times when you 298 00:10:06,375 --> 00:10:08,054 want to get a hit a red light. 299 00:10:08,054 --> 00:10:09,254 I know. And you do not hit a 300 00:10:09,254 --> 00:10:10,774 red light. And you and every freaking light 301 00:10:10,774 --> 00:10:12,634 is green. So for tasks, 302 00:10:13,095 --> 00:10:14,855 those are the things that are set every 303 00:10:14,855 --> 00:10:16,695 time. There are other things that are part 304 00:10:16,695 --> 00:10:18,774 of our routine and our protocols, but that's 305 00:10:18,774 --> 00:10:20,295 not what you asked. You asked about tasks. 306 00:10:20,295 --> 00:10:21,835 Then there's the as needed. 307 00:10:22,269 --> 00:10:25,070 So JB needs something and he will assign 308 00:10:25,070 --> 00:10:27,309 it to me either through the Obedience app 309 00:10:27,309 --> 00:10:29,549 now Yeah. Or he'll just verbalize it or 310 00:10:29,549 --> 00:10:30,750 write it down for me. And that can 311 00:10:30,750 --> 00:10:32,129 be research a thing, 312 00:10:33,549 --> 00:10:35,230 find me the name of, find me the 313 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:36,289 phone number of, 314 00:10:36,669 --> 00:10:38,875 like, whatever he might need. And it does 315 00:10:38,875 --> 00:10:40,495 tend to be those kind of administrative 316 00:10:40,875 --> 00:10:41,375 tasks. 317 00:10:41,754 --> 00:10:43,274 Mhmm. I don't mind. He knows I don't 318 00:10:43,274 --> 00:10:45,834 mind. We did have to work around and 319 00:10:45,834 --> 00:10:46,334 renegotiate, 320 00:10:48,875 --> 00:10:49,375 the 321 00:10:49,914 --> 00:10:51,595 can you just walk up and tell me 322 00:10:51,595 --> 00:10:53,009 the thing without me being 323 00:10:53,730 --> 00:10:55,570 one, without me forgetting it, and two, without 324 00:10:55,570 --> 00:10:56,389 me being overwhelmed. 325 00:10:56,850 --> 00:10:59,169 And that that was, I think, frustrating for 326 00:10:59,169 --> 00:11:01,250 both of us because we both wanted it 327 00:11:01,250 --> 00:11:02,549 to be the way it was 328 00:11:03,009 --> 00:11:04,610 when I was still in my thirties. So 329 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:06,690 you could just tell me a thing and 330 00:11:06,690 --> 00:11:08,745 my steel trap of a brain could hold 331 00:11:08,745 --> 00:11:10,345 it and then go do it and there 332 00:11:10,345 --> 00:11:12,664 was no overwhelm at all. And Same. It 333 00:11:12,664 --> 00:11:13,965 is not like that anymore. 334 00:11:14,985 --> 00:11:17,225 So the way JB does it now, we've 335 00:11:17,225 --> 00:11:18,664 only done it a couple times, but he'll 336 00:11:18,664 --> 00:11:20,504 actually put it in the Obedience app, and 337 00:11:20,504 --> 00:11:21,485 I'll get the notification. 338 00:11:21,945 --> 00:11:23,549 And that one was a research thing, find 339 00:11:23,549 --> 00:11:25,629 me a recipe for. So those are the 340 00:11:25,629 --> 00:11:28,370 kinds of tasks. They're very service oriented. 341 00:11:29,870 --> 00:11:31,950 I prefer my tasks to be part of 342 00:11:31,950 --> 00:11:34,509 my routine, something I'm doing consistently, maybe not 343 00:11:34,509 --> 00:11:36,750 every day, but in enough of a set 344 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:38,835 routine where I can remember that I need 345 00:11:38,835 --> 00:11:39,575 to do it. 346 00:11:40,115 --> 00:11:42,434 One task, it goes two tasks. It goes 347 00:11:42,434 --> 00:11:42,914 through the, 348 00:11:43,394 --> 00:11:46,355 obedience app. I bring him my collar to 349 00:11:46,355 --> 00:11:47,634 have it put on. I cannot sleep in 350 00:11:47,634 --> 00:11:49,794 my collar. Some people can. I cannot. Nothing 351 00:11:49,794 --> 00:11:50,534 can touch 352 00:11:50,914 --> 00:11:52,615 my neck. Oh, can't sleep. 353 00:11:53,669 --> 00:11:56,089 And then I also fold our laundry. 354 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:58,309 And the task of folding the laundry is 355 00:11:58,309 --> 00:11:59,129 really the, 356 00:12:01,990 --> 00:12:03,830 division of labor of the house is not 357 00:12:03,830 --> 00:12:05,909 really about our power exchange. But when I 358 00:12:05,909 --> 00:12:07,934 get that laundry folded, that's about a power 359 00:12:07,934 --> 00:12:08,434 exchange. 360 00:12:09,375 --> 00:12:11,295 Not that I fold it when I get 361 00:12:11,295 --> 00:12:11,875 it folded. 362 00:12:12,335 --> 00:12:13,955 So those are my tasks. 363 00:12:14,735 --> 00:12:17,615 But they're very yeah. They're they're household oriented. 364 00:12:17,615 --> 00:12:20,654 They're Mhmm. Beneficial for JB oriented, make his 365 00:12:20,654 --> 00:12:21,795 life a little easier, 366 00:12:22,709 --> 00:12:23,690 that kind of thing. 367 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:26,809 Okay. Next question. 368 00:12:30,789 --> 00:12:32,789 What's the one piece of advice you wish 369 00:12:32,789 --> 00:12:35,269 you learned earlier into BDSM, and how did 370 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:36,169 it change you? 371 00:12:40,365 --> 00:12:40,865 Goodness. 372 00:12:41,804 --> 00:12:42,625 Wow. That's, 373 00:12:47,485 --> 00:12:49,565 I think the, the thing that shocked me 374 00:12:49,565 --> 00:12:50,545 the most Mhmm. 375 00:12:51,089 --> 00:12:53,750 That was the biggest game changer for me, 376 00:12:54,129 --> 00:12:54,870 that is 377 00:12:55,889 --> 00:12:57,190 real life BDSM, 378 00:12:58,769 --> 00:13:00,929 is not what you see in porn or 379 00:13:00,929 --> 00:13:03,975 in Tumblr or any of those places. No. 380 00:13:04,054 --> 00:13:06,214 You know? And and prior to that, pretty 381 00:13:06,214 --> 00:13:08,554 much, that's what I had seen Sure. Online. 382 00:13:09,495 --> 00:13:10,615 You know, even from, 383 00:13:11,894 --> 00:13:14,475 the old bulletin board rooms, chat rooms. 384 00:13:15,334 --> 00:13:16,559 Oh, sure. That kind of thing. 385 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,700 So, 386 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,480 you know, when when realized find you know, 387 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,120 when actually entering the community and finding out, 388 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,820 oh, it's really not like that. 389 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:27,200 Not for more than a senior at a 390 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,440 time. Which actually was kind of okay with 391 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,995 me. Right. That could be very overwhelming for 392 00:13:31,995 --> 00:13:33,615 sure for sure. Because, 393 00:13:33,995 --> 00:13:35,195 you know, you see some of that stuff 394 00:13:35,195 --> 00:13:37,595 and like, I gotta live up to that? 395 00:13:37,595 --> 00:13:39,434 Right. I have to always be stern. I 396 00:13:39,434 --> 00:13:40,794 have to always be on my knees. I 397 00:13:40,794 --> 00:13:41,934 can't you know? 398 00:13:42,394 --> 00:13:44,715 There there are folks who incorporate more of 399 00:13:44,715 --> 00:13:46,875 it into their daily lives than others. We 400 00:13:46,875 --> 00:13:48,070 are we we are very, 401 00:13:48,690 --> 00:13:49,190 relaxed. 402 00:13:50,929 --> 00:13:52,230 But there is everybody 403 00:13:52,929 --> 00:13:55,570 has their own limit of how much you 404 00:13:55,570 --> 00:13:56,549 can do it before 405 00:13:57,169 --> 00:13:59,090 the other parts of your lives kind of 406 00:13:59,090 --> 00:14:00,870 seep in and have to take priority. 407 00:14:02,529 --> 00:14:02,769 We 408 00:14:03,464 --> 00:14:04,125 that's why we 409 00:14:06,504 --> 00:14:08,264 function with our power exchange the way we 410 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:10,605 do where it's kind of baked in. 411 00:14:11,225 --> 00:14:13,464 There's not a lot of baby girl go 412 00:14:13,464 --> 00:14:15,144 do this because we're busy fucking people. So 413 00:14:15,144 --> 00:14:16,899 it's like, let me set expectations and let 414 00:14:16,899 --> 00:14:18,740 you go, and I'll come to you as 415 00:14:18,740 --> 00:14:19,240 needed. 416 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:22,120 And then we have certain, like, understandings 417 00:14:23,299 --> 00:14:24,740 between each other, like, how we'll speak to 418 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:26,419 one another and and how we address one 419 00:14:26,419 --> 00:14:28,019 another. But, like, the rest of it is 420 00:14:28,019 --> 00:14:29,940 just us living our life and and power 421 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:30,705 exchange is just, 422 00:14:31,904 --> 00:14:34,465 like, woven through that instead of it being 423 00:14:34,465 --> 00:14:34,965 very 424 00:14:35,985 --> 00:14:37,825 prescriptive and this is how we live our 425 00:14:37,825 --> 00:14:38,945 lives and this is what we do when 426 00:14:38,945 --> 00:14:40,705 we're in sub motor, dom mode and then, 427 00:14:40,705 --> 00:14:42,625 and then somehow there's a break for the 428 00:14:42,625 --> 00:14:44,320 other parts of our lives. Well, not really. 429 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Like, he's always daddy. He is always the 430 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:46,980 decider. 431 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:49,519 And heaven help us, I'm always baby girl 432 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:51,299 at my best and at my worst. 433 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,399 And I tend to be that kind of 434 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:55,539 person that I 435 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:56,580 am 436 00:14:57,764 --> 00:15:00,964 naturally of service, air quote that, that's a 437 00:15:00,964 --> 00:15:01,945 subjective term, 438 00:15:02,804 --> 00:15:05,865 to whoever I love and care for. So 439 00:15:06,164 --> 00:15:08,004 too too much to the kids, I gotta 440 00:15:08,004 --> 00:15:09,870 back off with the youngest. And so it 441 00:15:09,870 --> 00:15:11,470 comes easy to me to do it for 442 00:15:11,470 --> 00:15:13,230 him as part of our power exchange because 443 00:15:13,230 --> 00:15:15,950 that's what I would be inclined to do 444 00:15:15,950 --> 00:15:18,750 anyway. This is just negotiated and understood and 445 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:21,149 there's parameters and there's boundaries and blah blah 446 00:15:21,149 --> 00:15:21,649 blah. 447 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:25,434 So, yeah, the real life v fantasy is, 448 00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:28,394 yeah. The the sooner folks can get that 449 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:29,914 in their head and then decide that actually 450 00:15:29,914 --> 00:15:30,574 real life 451 00:15:30,875 --> 00:15:32,334 is is good, actually, 452 00:15:32,794 --> 00:15:34,074 I think the better off most people would 453 00:15:34,074 --> 00:15:35,214 be. With me, 454 00:15:36,954 --> 00:15:37,534 I think 455 00:15:38,950 --> 00:15:40,950 it's it's actually a life lesson less than 456 00:15:40,950 --> 00:15:43,029 a a kink lesson, but it applies because 457 00:15:43,029 --> 00:15:45,350 there's all of these things transfer across each 458 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:45,850 other. 459 00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:48,409 And it is that the thing that you 460 00:15:48,709 --> 00:15:50,709 are doing today in your kink life and 461 00:15:50,709 --> 00:15:53,370 your power exchange that you love, the routine, 462 00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:55,184 the protocols, 463 00:15:55,485 --> 00:15:58,285 the rules, the fuckery, the blip blip blip, 464 00:15:58,285 --> 00:15:58,785 whatever, 465 00:15:59,404 --> 00:16:01,884 it is meant to shift and change over 466 00:16:01,884 --> 00:16:04,705 time because everything in life shifts and change 467 00:16:04,845 --> 00:16:07,184 changes. I used to get very torn up 468 00:16:07,325 --> 00:16:08,465 about the fact that 469 00:16:09,250 --> 00:16:10,930 when we could no longer do a thing 470 00:16:10,930 --> 00:16:12,870 that that's how we had done it for 471 00:16:13,090 --> 00:16:14,309 months or years. 472 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,690 I would have this sort of internal, like, 473 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:18,210 is there something wrong with me that we 474 00:16:18,210 --> 00:16:20,870 can no longer no. It's that life shifted. 475 00:16:21,250 --> 00:16:22,710 We shifted health, 476 00:16:23,225 --> 00:16:26,504 money, kid like, whatever whatever. And your power 477 00:16:26,504 --> 00:16:28,985 exchange and your kink life adjusts to your 478 00:16:28,985 --> 00:16:31,384 reality. If you are trying to force that 479 00:16:31,384 --> 00:16:33,384 round peg into that square hole and it's 480 00:16:33,384 --> 00:16:34,904 not a good fit anymore, I mean, it 481 00:16:34,904 --> 00:16:36,410 could be kinky, but that's, you know 482 00:16:38,170 --> 00:16:40,410 and it's not happening is what I'm saying. 483 00:16:40,410 --> 00:16:42,570 You just made yourself miserable, and you're not 484 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:44,490 actually living the kink life that you love 485 00:16:44,490 --> 00:16:46,490 even though that routine you had, that thing 486 00:16:46,490 --> 00:16:48,490 you did was what you loved. Now, you 487 00:16:48,490 --> 00:16:50,414 know, the moment I kind of wrapped my 488 00:16:50,414 --> 00:16:52,014 head around it and got comfortable with the 489 00:16:52,014 --> 00:16:53,534 fact that, no, this is how this is 490 00:16:53,534 --> 00:16:55,214 supposed to go because this is how life 491 00:16:55,214 --> 00:16:55,714 goes. 492 00:16:56,495 --> 00:17:00,034 Nothing bad lasts forever. Nothing good lasts forever. 493 00:17:00,095 --> 00:17:02,115 It's just a constant shift. 494 00:17:02,495 --> 00:17:04,335 I became much more relaxed about it and 495 00:17:04,335 --> 00:17:06,250 just, you know, understood, okay, this is part 496 00:17:06,250 --> 00:17:08,589 of the process. I mean, did we get 497 00:17:09,450 --> 00:17:11,210 a what's the word I want? 498 00:17:11,529 --> 00:17:12,670 A crash course, 499 00:17:13,289 --> 00:17:15,369 from going from long distance to moving in. 500 00:17:15,369 --> 00:17:15,869 Mhmm. 501 00:17:16,250 --> 00:17:17,769 Oh, yeah. That was a That was a 502 00:17:17,769 --> 00:17:20,444 managing expectations thing more than a life adjustment 503 00:17:20,605 --> 00:17:22,284 because we thought we had planned for the 504 00:17:22,284 --> 00:17:24,524 life adjustment, and then life lifed, and we 505 00:17:24,524 --> 00:17:25,424 had to readjust. 506 00:17:25,804 --> 00:17:28,044 But over from that point, 2014, we moved 507 00:17:28,044 --> 00:17:28,704 in together, 508 00:17:29,244 --> 00:17:30,464 you know, pretty 509 00:17:31,325 --> 00:17:33,484 cyclically. I won't say consistently, but there's sort 510 00:17:33,484 --> 00:17:35,819 of a cycle of things that we, over 511 00:17:35,819 --> 00:17:37,179 time, shift a little bit, shift a little 512 00:17:37,179 --> 00:17:38,880 bit. My main tasks 513 00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:41,039 have not shifted that much. 514 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:42,319 Do the coffee. 515 00:17:42,619 --> 00:17:44,619 Mhmm. Maybe the way I make the coffee 516 00:17:44,619 --> 00:17:46,880 has changed when I do it. Certain like, 517 00:17:47,019 --> 00:17:49,134 those that's I think I I had get 518 00:17:49,134 --> 00:17:51,295 a lot of comfort for that because that 519 00:17:51,295 --> 00:17:52,275 has been consistent 520 00:17:52,654 --> 00:17:54,734 over the years. But how quickly I do 521 00:17:54,734 --> 00:17:56,194 it, the way I do it, 522 00:17:56,815 --> 00:17:59,134 your expectations of it, what we've added, what 523 00:17:59,134 --> 00:18:00,894 we've taken away Mhmm. Those are the shifts 524 00:18:00,894 --> 00:18:02,115 I'm talking about. So 525 00:18:02,734 --> 00:18:02,894 the 526 00:18:03,694 --> 00:18:04,355 I think 527 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:07,769 that allowed me to relax and to understand, 528 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:08,890 okay, 529 00:18:09,269 --> 00:18:11,349 the shifting of how we're gonna do things, 530 00:18:11,349 --> 00:18:14,710 the the easing back of some things, the 531 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:15,210 the 532 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:18,650 strengthening of others, that is absolutely normal. 533 00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:21,644 It's gonna happen. I have not failed. The 534 00:18:21,644 --> 00:18:23,105 power exchange is not failing. 535 00:18:23,804 --> 00:18:26,285 We're just this is life, and it happens 536 00:18:26,285 --> 00:18:28,765 to all parts of our life, including our 537 00:18:28,765 --> 00:18:29,505 our DS. 538 00:18:30,285 --> 00:18:33,804 Okay. Next one. It feels impossible to date 539 00:18:33,804 --> 00:18:35,700 as a fat kinky femme. 540 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,500 Advice. 541 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:41,759 I wouldn't know where to begin. Well I've 542 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:42,159 been so 543 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,119 Yeah. I mean, you are I I look 544 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,500 to you though because you appreciate 545 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,894 fat kinky femmes. Like, you you love you 546 00:18:50,894 --> 00:18:52,515 a big girl and not in a fetishizing 547 00:18:52,654 --> 00:18:54,575 way like you you just want something to 548 00:18:54,575 --> 00:18:56,575 be able to hold on to. And I 549 00:18:56,575 --> 00:18:57,075 appreciate 550 00:18:58,095 --> 00:18:59,855 that. I'm a give you so much to 551 00:18:59,855 --> 00:19:01,075 hold on to. I 552 00:19:01,625 --> 00:19:04,309 I find it attractive. I like it. It's 553 00:19:04,309 --> 00:19:07,690 whatever I like. I know. I'm just saying 554 00:19:08,869 --> 00:19:10,009 from that perspective, 555 00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:14,505 you know Yeah. Do you have any, like, 556 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:17,704 as as to being the person who would 557 00:19:17,704 --> 00:19:18,845 be the partner of 558 00:19:19,545 --> 00:19:22,184 a a fat kicking femme of the connection 559 00:19:22,184 --> 00:19:23,625 of the coming together. See, I don't you 560 00:19:23,625 --> 00:19:25,065 know, I don't even think about it in 561 00:19:25,065 --> 00:19:27,980 those kind of terms. Mhmm. You know, for 562 00:19:27,980 --> 00:19:30,639 for me, it comes down to things like, 563 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:32,000 personality. 564 00:19:32,379 --> 00:19:33,599 Right. Yeah. You know, 565 00:19:34,059 --> 00:19:35,440 what kind of moral compass 566 00:19:35,740 --> 00:19:38,799 Sure. The person has, sense of humor. Right. 567 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:40,960 You know, and and of course, hygiene, 568 00:19:41,419 --> 00:19:43,904 you know, but We do appreciate hygiene. Yeah. 569 00:19:43,904 --> 00:19:46,144 Yeah. But I mean, things like that I 570 00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:47,284 know. You is what 571 00:19:47,744 --> 00:19:49,904 makes the person Right. And I and I 572 00:19:49,904 --> 00:19:50,724 think for 573 00:19:51,105 --> 00:19:52,484 if you and whatever 574 00:19:53,424 --> 00:19:54,565 body you're in 575 00:19:54,865 --> 00:19:55,365 or 576 00:19:55,825 --> 00:19:57,660 may you know, for folks who maybe, like, 577 00:19:57,740 --> 00:20:00,619 have a physical disability or whatever whatever whatever. 578 00:20:00,619 --> 00:20:01,920 Right? That makes you 579 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:04,380 feel like you can't find a partner. The 580 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:05,660 first thing I want you to look at 581 00:20:05,660 --> 00:20:08,059 is who are you surrounded by? Mhmm. Are 582 00:20:08,059 --> 00:20:09,900 you part of an online or in person 583 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:10,940 community that, 584 00:20:11,734 --> 00:20:13,595 is kind of homogeneous and everybody 585 00:20:13,894 --> 00:20:15,654 looks the same and maybe they don't look 586 00:20:15,654 --> 00:20:17,755 like you or they are kind of similar 587 00:20:17,815 --> 00:20:19,815 and you do not fit into that group? 588 00:20:19,815 --> 00:20:21,335 Well, now it's time to, like we gotta 589 00:20:21,335 --> 00:20:22,695 change our friend group. We gotta change our 590 00:20:22,695 --> 00:20:24,855 community. We gotta go go be where we 591 00:20:24,855 --> 00:20:26,809 are accepted as who we are. 592 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:29,769 You know, the 593 00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:34,309 the sad state of affairs is the stuff 594 00:20:34,309 --> 00:20:36,330 that I've I've joked about this before, 595 00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:38,090 because I tend to 596 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:40,250 fall into a vanilla heterosexual 597 00:20:40,694 --> 00:20:43,194 algorithm every once in a while. And it's 598 00:20:44,214 --> 00:20:46,315 sad state of affairs of the dating world 599 00:20:46,855 --> 00:20:48,554 these days. Oh my god. 600 00:20:49,174 --> 00:20:51,255 But kinksters are just a cross section of 601 00:20:51,255 --> 00:20:51,755 humanity. 602 00:20:52,214 --> 00:20:52,714 We 603 00:20:53,015 --> 00:20:55,494 tend to handle some things better, but we 604 00:20:55,494 --> 00:20:57,830 are still people. And so there are still 605 00:20:58,289 --> 00:21:00,369 you know, we would call them sometimes a 606 00:21:00,369 --> 00:21:01,670 fake dom or, like, 607 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:04,849 a bad sub, I mean, of any gender 608 00:21:04,849 --> 00:21:07,009 of any who whatever. But there are those 609 00:21:07,009 --> 00:21:10,204 people regardless of gender who are shitty. 610 00:21:10,585 --> 00:21:13,144 They are not real with you. They are 611 00:21:13,224 --> 00:21:15,464 they're used they'll use people for as long 612 00:21:15,464 --> 00:21:17,804 as they can. They won't commit or they'll 613 00:21:18,105 --> 00:21:20,505 ghost or they'll gaslight or whatever. They're out 614 00:21:20,505 --> 00:21:21,630 for themselves. They're not actually 615 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,549 trying to make a genuine connection. And, you 616 00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:27,890 know, that will always exist somewhere. 617 00:21:28,910 --> 00:21:31,869 So if you find yourself in a space 618 00:21:31,869 --> 00:21:33,869 where there are not others like you, there 619 00:21:33,869 --> 00:21:35,825 are not others who are into 620 00:21:36,284 --> 00:21:38,865 you, can can you shift your space? Right? 621 00:21:39,244 --> 00:21:39,904 Is it, 622 00:21:40,924 --> 00:21:42,605 is it the munch? We have walked into 623 00:21:42,605 --> 00:21:45,325 munches where we're like, we do not feel 624 00:21:45,325 --> 00:21:46,845 like we fit in, and also we're not 625 00:21:46,845 --> 00:21:48,329 being made welcome. Well, it's real hard to 626 00:21:48,329 --> 00:21:49,789 meet people if you're 627 00:21:50,089 --> 00:21:51,470 in a space like that. 628 00:21:53,049 --> 00:21:53,950 There are 629 00:21:54,730 --> 00:21:57,130 sort of micro communities for almost any and 630 00:21:57,130 --> 00:22:00,809 all identities. I'm sure within the BDSM community 631 00:22:00,809 --> 00:22:03,534 as well, FetLife can can be a place 632 00:22:03,534 --> 00:22:05,694 where, you know, you have to have to 633 00:22:05,694 --> 00:22:08,414 sift through a lot of crap. But there 634 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:11,315 can be those spaces where Fet's not really 635 00:22:11,375 --> 00:22:13,615 a a dating site, but people have met 636 00:22:13,615 --> 00:22:15,694 through there. Right. And it's where you can, 637 00:22:15,694 --> 00:22:18,039 you know, find a community. Because our thing 638 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:20,220 is, and we will preach it forever, 639 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:22,599 is we think and I don't care what 640 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:24,679 kind of power exchange kink relationship you're trying 641 00:22:24,679 --> 00:22:26,380 to have with somebody. Even casual, 642 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,545 I think on some level you should like 643 00:22:29,545 --> 00:22:31,625 that person as a human before you worry 644 00:22:31,625 --> 00:22:34,025 about liking them as a kinkster. Right? And 645 00:22:34,025 --> 00:22:35,705 they and in return they should like you 646 00:22:35,705 --> 00:22:37,565 as a person before, you know, 647 00:22:38,265 --> 00:22:39,485 the kink thing. Right? 648 00:22:40,904 --> 00:22:41,404 And 649 00:22:41,705 --> 00:22:42,605 that's the thing. 650 00:22:43,065 --> 00:22:44,849 See if you can find spaces spaces for 651 00:22:44,849 --> 00:22:47,170 yourself where you can just become friends with 652 00:22:47,170 --> 00:22:49,170 people. Or maybe even the pressure is off 653 00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:51,029 to try and meet a partner, and 654 00:22:51,730 --> 00:22:53,809 you become friends with somebody. Maybe it becomes 655 00:22:53,809 --> 00:22:56,049 more, maybe it doesn't. Maybe they introduce you 656 00:22:56,049 --> 00:22:57,650 to other kinky people, and now you've made 657 00:22:57,650 --> 00:22:59,805 connections. Maybe they invite you to the party, 658 00:22:59,805 --> 00:23:01,404 and you meet the love of your life 659 00:23:01,404 --> 00:23:02,285 there. Like, I don't 660 00:23:02,845 --> 00:23:05,184 there's no predicting it. You know? 661 00:23:06,445 --> 00:23:06,945 But 662 00:23:07,404 --> 00:23:07,904 that 663 00:23:09,725 --> 00:23:11,965 that is there's no single site I can 664 00:23:11,965 --> 00:23:13,325 tell you to go to. I don't know 665 00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:14,545 of any that are, like, 666 00:23:15,130 --> 00:23:16,589 made for, you know, 667 00:23:17,849 --> 00:23:18,669 any specific 668 00:23:18,970 --> 00:23:20,250 group. I'm sure they're out there. I just 669 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:22,329 don't know about them. Typically, the kink sites 670 00:23:22,329 --> 00:23:24,089 are the kink sites or the places that 671 00:23:24,089 --> 00:23:25,929 allow you to be openly kinky and find 672 00:23:25,929 --> 00:23:26,509 a partner. 673 00:23:26,890 --> 00:23:29,216 You know, they're there and then it's hard 674 00:23:29,216 --> 00:23:32,015 to, like, niche down. Right? But be with 675 00:23:32,015 --> 00:23:34,502 people who appreciate you regardless of the relationship 676 00:23:34,502 --> 00:23:36,990 thing. Quite frankly, if you are, you know, 677 00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:39,479 kind of, like, feeling like it's impossible to 678 00:23:39,479 --> 00:23:41,967 date, maybe don't date for a while. Maybe 679 00:23:41,967 --> 00:23:42,900 it'd be like, 680 00:23:43,619 --> 00:23:44,359 I will 681 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:46,339 whatever it is I need that I'm not 682 00:23:46,339 --> 00:23:47,779 getting, how can else can I get it? 683 00:23:47,779 --> 00:23:49,779 And I'm gonna not not worry about dating 684 00:23:49,779 --> 00:23:51,859 until I'm in a community or I make 685 00:23:51,859 --> 00:23:53,700 a friend or I'm, like, connected to somebody 686 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:55,619 in some way that sees me for who 687 00:23:55,619 --> 00:23:57,480 I am not just for the body type. 688 00:23:57,494 --> 00:23:58,154 But also, 689 00:23:59,174 --> 00:24:01,734 the people who love a fat body and 690 00:24:01,734 --> 00:24:04,055 not in the fetishizing, like, creepy way, they 691 00:24:04,055 --> 00:24:07,355 are a 100% out there. Mhmm. Apparently, according 692 00:24:08,454 --> 00:24:09,355 to the algorithm, 693 00:24:09,654 --> 00:24:11,839 they're all at the gym. Like, apparently, the 694 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:12,579 the muscle 695 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,599 dude bros, like, love them a a chunky 696 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,839 partner. Okay. And I'm like, well, apparently, I 697 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:19,200 need to go to the gym more to 698 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 just, like, stand around. You're right. I I 699 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,220 did hear something. And that is the stereotype. 700 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:24,579 And 701 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,035 of course, that's not universally 702 00:24:27,575 --> 00:24:28,555 true. But 703 00:24:28,934 --> 00:24:30,634 so, yeah, I think if, you know, 704 00:24:31,414 --> 00:24:33,575 you're sort of, like, feeling like it's impossible, 705 00:24:33,575 --> 00:24:35,174 take a break from it. Yeah. Go live 706 00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:36,795 your best life in other ways 707 00:24:37,174 --> 00:24:39,835 and, you know, find a community that's not 708 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:41,299 necessarily 709 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:44,720 about dating. It's just about, like, chilling with 710 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,579 cool people who happen to also be kinky. 711 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,279 This one this one. I feel this one. 712 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,625 Next question. How to overcome my fears and 713 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:55,244 give my trust completely? 714 00:24:56,984 --> 00:24:58,265 I think the first thing I would say 715 00:24:58,265 --> 00:24:58,765 is, 716 00:25:00,025 --> 00:25:02,525 trust, even as you grant it to somebody, 717 00:25:02,585 --> 00:25:05,085 you're not granting them complete and total trust 718 00:25:05,305 --> 00:25:07,720 the moment you decide to trust them. It 719 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,339 is a bits and pieces 720 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,259 thing that grows over time. 721 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:13,559 What I would say is you have to 722 00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:15,399 make the first leap of faith 723 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,839 Mhmm. To not actually overcome a fear, to 724 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:20,759 move through the fear with a little bit 725 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:22,380 of trust. Maybe that is 726 00:25:22,684 --> 00:25:24,765 you'll do the small kink thing with them. 727 00:25:24,765 --> 00:25:27,404 You'll tell them one thing and you kind 728 00:25:27,404 --> 00:25:29,164 of put that feeler out there where you're 729 00:25:29,164 --> 00:25:32,444 extending trust, right, even though you're nervous and 730 00:25:32,444 --> 00:25:35,005 then it's their job to show you, to 731 00:25:35,005 --> 00:25:37,325 prove to you, that you can continue to 732 00:25:37,325 --> 00:25:38,430 extend that trust. 733 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:41,150 And that takes as long as it takes. 734 00:25:41,150 --> 00:25:42,910 That goes as slowly as it goes. You 735 00:25:42,910 --> 00:25:45,789 give as much Mhmm. Trust and work through 736 00:25:45,789 --> 00:25:47,890 that fear to the extent that you can. 737 00:25:48,029 --> 00:25:49,549 And if they are a person worthy of 738 00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:51,070 that, they will do the things that allow 739 00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:53,825 you to grow more comfortable and to trust 740 00:25:53,825 --> 00:25:55,744 more and more Yeah. So that you can 741 00:25:55,744 --> 00:25:57,265 continue doing that. Yeah. Because I don't, you 742 00:25:57,265 --> 00:25:59,125 know, I don't think trust is something that 743 00:25:59,505 --> 00:26:00,325 is just 744 00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:02,304 giving you, like, okay, here it is. You 745 00:26:02,304 --> 00:26:03,984 got it all. It's no no more to 746 00:26:03,984 --> 00:26:04,884 give. Right. 747 00:26:05,529 --> 00:26:06,190 You know, 748 00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:07,690 you we're still 749 00:26:08,009 --> 00:26:10,349 Mhmm. All after all these years, 750 00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:12,990 that is still something that is 751 00:26:13,289 --> 00:26:15,529 going on. I don't think it ever it 752 00:26:15,609 --> 00:26:17,769 it's something that grows and evolves and it 753 00:26:17,849 --> 00:26:19,845 you know, it's all part of that. Mhmm. 754 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:21,464 You know, like you said earlier, 755 00:26:21,845 --> 00:26:22,505 you know, 756 00:26:23,045 --> 00:26:25,125 nothing we have looks like what it did 757 00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:27,444 before. It's something different. And it's the same 758 00:26:27,444 --> 00:26:29,525 thing with the trust. That is something that's 759 00:26:29,525 --> 00:26:32,644 gradually given over time and it just Right. 760 00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:33,210 Peeps. 761 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:35,929 Right. There's not a you're talking to somebody, 762 00:26:35,929 --> 00:26:37,130 you're getting to know them, and one day 763 00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:38,809 you just go, okay. I'm not afraid anymore 764 00:26:38,809 --> 00:26:40,890 and I trust them completely. Let's do that's 765 00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:43,450 nope. Yeah. From the vast majority of us, 766 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:45,289 that's not how it's gonna work. You're gonna 767 00:26:45,289 --> 00:26:46,649 have to you're gonna have to do something 768 00:26:46,649 --> 00:26:48,169 and be nervous about it while you do 769 00:26:48,169 --> 00:26:49,964 it. Yeah. But it the way I always 770 00:26:49,964 --> 00:26:51,244 do it because I have such trust issues 771 00:26:51,244 --> 00:26:52,684 is I do a thing that I would 772 00:26:52,684 --> 00:26:55,164 be disappointed if they broke my trust. I 773 00:26:55,164 --> 00:26:56,305 would be sad 774 00:26:56,924 --> 00:26:59,105 but I don't feel like I would be 775 00:26:59,884 --> 00:27:01,424 crushed or harmed. 776 00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:05,289 That's how slow and small we're talking. Mhmm. 777 00:27:05,289 --> 00:27:06,490 And they need to prove to you. And 778 00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:07,690 what I mean by prove to you, it's 779 00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:09,309 real easy for for, 780 00:27:10,009 --> 00:27:13,710 predatory people and wannabes and users and abusers 781 00:27:14,089 --> 00:27:16,349 to say the right things. Mhmm. 782 00:27:17,204 --> 00:27:19,845 But they will unless that unless they're one 783 00:27:19,845 --> 00:27:21,285 of those just, oh my god people and 784 00:27:21,285 --> 00:27:23,765 those are the exceptions, but there are people 785 00:27:23,765 --> 00:27:25,605 who are super extreme. That's what I'm talking 786 00:27:25,605 --> 00:27:27,065 about. Your average everyday 787 00:27:27,365 --> 00:27:28,664 Joe Schmo. Right? 788 00:27:29,044 --> 00:27:30,964 They're gonna trip up. They're not gonna be 789 00:27:30,964 --> 00:27:31,464 consistent 790 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,819 or they're not gonna come across as sincere 791 00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:35,420 and you're gonna get a feeling like, is 792 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:37,259 that actually real? I don't know if I 793 00:27:37,259 --> 00:27:39,740 buy it. Like, there's gonna be something that 794 00:27:39,740 --> 00:27:41,819 kind of can clue you in when they're 795 00:27:41,819 --> 00:27:43,785 not being consistent. So that's what you're looking 796 00:27:43,785 --> 00:27:45,144 for. It's not what they do one time. 797 00:27:45,144 --> 00:27:46,505 It's what they do over and over and 798 00:27:46,505 --> 00:27:47,244 over again 799 00:27:47,545 --> 00:27:48,045 consistently 800 00:27:48,424 --> 00:27:49,724 Mhmm. In a pattern. 801 00:27:50,105 --> 00:27:51,705 And that's when you know that they are 802 00:27:51,705 --> 00:27:53,644 somebody that you can continue 803 00:27:53,945 --> 00:27:56,605 to develop trust with. Right. And and also, 804 00:27:56,825 --> 00:27:58,684 you know, on on the big d side, 805 00:27:59,750 --> 00:28:00,809 they gotta be patient. 806 00:28:01,509 --> 00:28:03,909 Yeah. Everybody's gotta be patient unless it's through 807 00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:06,069 real. You know, especially early on in the 808 00:28:06,069 --> 00:28:07,669 beginning, it's not something you can just, you 809 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:10,950 know, drag out of somebody. Right. Right. If, 810 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:11,684 you know, 811 00:28:12,085 --> 00:28:15,125 if you are in either side, but, yes, 812 00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:17,205 specific to to dominance. If you're a dominant 813 00:28:17,205 --> 00:28:18,265 and you are, 814 00:28:18,805 --> 00:28:19,465 you know, 815 00:28:19,845 --> 00:28:22,565 getting together, getting to know this submissive partner 816 00:28:22,565 --> 00:28:24,485 and you know they're afraid, you know they 817 00:28:24,485 --> 00:28:25,900 have trust issues. I was very open with 818 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:27,180 it. I don't trust no damn body and 819 00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:29,420 I'm terrified. I've I've too much pain too 820 00:28:29,660 --> 00:28:31,599 like, I don't know. You know? 821 00:28:32,299 --> 00:28:34,619 It is your job to prove that you 822 00:28:34,619 --> 00:28:36,940 are a person that they can trust. You 823 00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:38,539 know? If if that's who you want to 824 00:28:38,539 --> 00:28:40,140 be with them, if you want to develop 825 00:28:40,140 --> 00:28:40,605 wherever 826 00:28:42,605 --> 00:28:44,311 this is going, whatever this is, you know, 827 00:28:44,311 --> 00:28:46,444 that that's your job. Be consistent. Be real. 828 00:28:46,444 --> 00:28:48,525 Be who the fuck you are. Yeah. Oh, 829 00:28:48,525 --> 00:28:51,404 yeah. But also, even if you realize that 830 00:28:51,404 --> 00:28:52,224 there's a, 831 00:28:52,924 --> 00:28:53,424 incompatibility 832 00:28:53,724 --> 00:28:56,250 or this is not gonna work, still, like, 833 00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:58,410 hold their trust sacred. Like they're gonna be 834 00:28:58,410 --> 00:29:00,250 vulnerable with you, potential partner. They're gonna you 835 00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:02,269 know, there's gonna be intimacies between you. 836 00:29:02,650 --> 00:29:04,730 You know, treat that as the sacred thing 837 00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:05,630 that it is. 838 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:06,430 Now 839 00:29:06,809 --> 00:29:07,309 submissives, 840 00:29:08,345 --> 00:29:09,865 your doms get to do that with you 841 00:29:09,865 --> 00:29:11,704 too. They're gonna be vulnerable. They're gonna tell 842 00:29:11,704 --> 00:29:12,825 you stuff. They're gonna have to learn to 843 00:29:12,825 --> 00:29:13,724 trust you. 844 00:29:14,184 --> 00:29:15,964 Be a person they can trust. 845 00:29:16,265 --> 00:29:16,765 Mhmm. 846 00:29:19,704 --> 00:29:20,309 So yeah. 847 00:29:21,509 --> 00:29:22,009 Okay. 848 00:29:22,309 --> 00:29:23,850 Next one. This one's interesting. 849 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:26,549 Because I can't imagine it even though I 850 00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:28,150 have a shitty memory. Because this is not 851 00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:29,910 a thing that I would forget. But it's 852 00:29:29,910 --> 00:29:30,410 interesting. 853 00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:33,990 My sub keeps forgetting the title we've chosen. 854 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:36,045 They use it about 50% of the time. 855 00:29:36,365 --> 00:29:38,065 How do I remind them? 856 00:29:39,085 --> 00:29:39,585 Oh. 857 00:29:40,605 --> 00:29:41,825 My first thought is, 858 00:29:42,205 --> 00:29:45,164 does that title resonate with them? Mhmm. That 859 00:29:45,325 --> 00:29:46,924 because if it doesn't resonate, that could be 860 00:29:46,924 --> 00:29:47,825 part of the problem. 861 00:29:48,329 --> 00:29:49,849 The other thing is do they have memory 862 00:29:49,849 --> 00:29:51,529 issues in all other parts of their life? 863 00:29:51,529 --> 00:29:53,130 Because if that's the case, then it's not 864 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:54,730 about the title. It's just they got a 865 00:29:54,730 --> 00:29:55,950 memory thing, and now 866 00:29:56,569 --> 00:29:58,809 you'll need tricks for that. But when I 867 00:29:58,809 --> 00:30:01,150 forget something or when you've dealt with something 868 00:30:01,369 --> 00:30:03,289 similar in the past, like, what is your 869 00:30:03,289 --> 00:30:04,565 method for Well, and 870 00:30:05,664 --> 00:30:06,164 that 871 00:30:08,224 --> 00:30:10,384 years and years ago I did for some 872 00:30:10,384 --> 00:30:11,044 reason I had 873 00:30:13,264 --> 00:30:13,764 trouble 874 00:30:14,304 --> 00:30:16,440 remembering certain words. Mhmm. 875 00:30:17,639 --> 00:30:19,819 Okay? When I first picked up a camera 876 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,419 when I was young, 877 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:23,099 and 878 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,339 I got a polarizing lens, 879 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,079 I could not for the life of me 880 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:29,579 remember 881 00:30:30,315 --> 00:30:32,875 polarizing. Mhmm. Mhmm. K? What the stupid thing 882 00:30:32,875 --> 00:30:33,534 was called. 883 00:30:34,794 --> 00:30:35,855 The way I 884 00:30:37,115 --> 00:30:40,474 ended up remembering it Mhmm. Was I thought 885 00:30:40,474 --> 00:30:42,335 of, okay, what's close to polarizing? 886 00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:43,774 Polaroid. 887 00:30:44,315 --> 00:30:46,509 Mhmm. Mhmm. So I had the first half, 888 00:30:46,509 --> 00:30:48,190 and then it led into the rest of 889 00:30:48,190 --> 00:30:49,470 the word from there first. Is that a 890 00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:50,609 mnemonic device? 891 00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:53,230 Or is that a mnemonic device adjacent there? 892 00:30:53,230 --> 00:30:54,750 I don't yeah. There's There's a term for 893 00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:56,670 making connections like that Right. And I can't 894 00:30:56,670 --> 00:30:57,869 remember. And I I don't know what it 895 00:30:57,869 --> 00:31:00,375 is anymore either. I've heard of it, but 896 00:31:00,375 --> 00:31:01,434 that's what I 897 00:31:01,974 --> 00:31:03,115 had done. Mhmm. 898 00:31:03,734 --> 00:31:06,375 And through throughout, anytime I found a word 899 00:31:06,375 --> 00:31:08,775 that I had trouble Mhmm. I create, you 900 00:31:08,775 --> 00:31:09,755 know Sure. 901 00:31:11,095 --> 00:31:12,630 A companion word, so to speak. Yes. Absolutely. 902 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:12,674 And that that's a great memory trick in 903 00:31:12,674 --> 00:31:14,580 general. So if we're talking about Absolutely. And 904 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,112 that that's a great memory trick in general. 905 00:31:17,112 --> 00:31:18,320 So if we're talking about this just a 906 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,500 memory issue, then I would be looking up 907 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,340 different tricks and, 908 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,920 things to try and tools for how to 909 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,920 help somebody, you know, retain a memory like 910 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,244 that. 911 00:31:28,724 --> 00:31:31,204 Yeah. That being said, it depends on your 912 00:31:31,204 --> 00:31:33,045 dynamic, but there's not a damn thing wrong 913 00:31:33,045 --> 00:31:35,384 with leaning into your dynamic. 914 00:31:36,005 --> 00:31:38,565 If, you know, there are consequences as part 915 00:31:38,565 --> 00:31:40,184 of your power exchange, 916 00:31:40,805 --> 00:31:42,250 I I would not make it an overly 917 00:31:42,250 --> 00:31:43,309 serious consequence, 918 00:31:43,930 --> 00:31:46,029 but I would, you know, if they 919 00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:48,509 are if they're trying to avoid consequence, 920 00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:50,750 maybe do that. 921 00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:52,430 If there's any, 922 00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:53,549 willingness 923 00:31:54,009 --> 00:31:55,390 and also, like, 924 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:58,325 you know, when JB wants me to never 925 00:31:58,464 --> 00:31:59,984 act a certain way again, he'll have me 926 00:31:59,984 --> 00:32:02,464 write lines. Now that's not for everybody. Mhmm. 927 00:32:02,464 --> 00:32:04,065 But that is just an example of Yeah. 928 00:32:04,224 --> 00:32:05,765 Within our caregiver 929 00:32:06,464 --> 00:32:09,105 baby girl dynamic, that works. So I would 930 00:32:09,105 --> 00:32:11,025 lean into your dynamic of Right. How do 931 00:32:11,025 --> 00:32:13,600 you discipline or how do you maintain discipline 932 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:15,440 or what, if any, consequences 933 00:32:16,299 --> 00:32:17,360 exist for when 934 00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:19,840 a submissive kinda, like, oopsies? 935 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:21,660 And then Is there something you can do 936 00:32:21,660 --> 00:32:23,019 there to help with the memory? On on 937 00:32:23,019 --> 00:32:25,340 the opposite side of that, know your know 938 00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:26,480 your sub, 939 00:32:26,934 --> 00:32:28,875 and do they respond better to 940 00:32:30,855 --> 00:32:33,095 positive reinforcement? Thank you. Mhmm. I knew where 941 00:32:33,095 --> 00:32:34,154 you're going. Yeah. 942 00:32:35,095 --> 00:32:37,654 You know, if that's something that they respond 943 00:32:37,654 --> 00:32:38,154 to, 944 00:32:38,615 --> 00:32:41,414 then, you know Reward. Reward. When they get 945 00:32:41,414 --> 00:32:43,250 it right. Mhmm. You know? I think the 946 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:44,929 first thing I would double check, if you 947 00:32:44,929 --> 00:32:46,769 know it's not like a they remember nothing 948 00:32:46,769 --> 00:32:48,289 and they struggle with their memory Mhmm. I 949 00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:50,130 would make sure that the title resonates with 950 00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:50,630 them. 951 00:32:51,089 --> 00:32:54,130 Or or check this. Are they trying to 952 00:32:54,130 --> 00:32:54,789 be punished? 953 00:32:56,134 --> 00:32:58,615 Are they, like, low key bratting and there's 954 00:32:58,615 --> 00:33:00,394 not been a conversation about bratting? 955 00:33:01,414 --> 00:33:03,894 You know, I would I if it's not 956 00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:05,654 just a memory thing, see if you can 957 00:33:05,654 --> 00:33:06,634 get to the motivation. 958 00:33:07,095 --> 00:33:09,329 Yeah. If there's a motivation. Right? Like, is 959 00:33:09,329 --> 00:33:12,210 there a mental block? Is there Mhmm. Like, 960 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:13,649 I'm trying to I'm trying to get under 961 00:33:13,649 --> 00:33:15,490 your skin and make something happen. If it's 962 00:33:15,490 --> 00:33:16,230 not that, 963 00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:19,029 I'd lean into your power exchange of however 964 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:21,569 y'all handle when they don't do what they're 965 00:33:21,569 --> 00:33:22,964 supposed to do in other ways. 966 00:33:23,765 --> 00:33:26,325 Again, I would not I personally would not 967 00:33:26,325 --> 00:33:28,825 recommend coming down too hard for memory lapses. 968 00:33:29,684 --> 00:33:31,605 You don't wanna make somebody afraid to say 969 00:33:31,605 --> 00:33:32,664 something either, 970 00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:33,625 but 971 00:33:34,244 --> 00:33:36,964 there's, you know, probably something there Mhmm. That, 972 00:33:36,964 --> 00:33:39,099 you know, can help them remember a little 973 00:33:39,099 --> 00:33:40,940 bit. But it does depend on y'all's dynamic 974 00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:43,179 and what kind of Yeah. You know, what 975 00:33:43,179 --> 00:33:44,460 kind of sub they are, what kind of 976 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:46,059 dom you are, all of that, all of 977 00:33:46,059 --> 00:33:49,099 that. Mhmm. Okay. This one this one's for 978 00:33:49,099 --> 00:33:50,079 you. Uh-oh. 979 00:33:51,664 --> 00:33:53,284 Because on a smaller scale, 980 00:33:53,585 --> 00:33:54,724 we've had this moment. 981 00:33:55,265 --> 00:33:59,105 How can I, five two, continue feeling dominant 982 00:33:59,105 --> 00:34:01,265 when my sub is a lot bigger and 983 00:34:01,265 --> 00:34:03,365 taller than me, six seven? 984 00:34:03,890 --> 00:34:05,650 Well, you need to climb that person like 985 00:34:05,650 --> 00:34:08,070 a tree. That way, I know it's fine. 986 00:34:08,369 --> 00:34:10,610 Sorry. I'm having my own moment. I've been 987 00:34:10,610 --> 00:34:11,910 reading too much smut. 988 00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:14,210 I don't wanna assume there's even sex in 989 00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:16,130 your dynamic. Too many thirst traps on that. 990 00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:17,835 Just saying. Too, I think. 991 00:34:21,034 --> 00:34:22,795 If if I were in if if I 992 00:34:22,795 --> 00:34:24,155 had a partner that was that tall, I 993 00:34:24,155 --> 00:34:25,835 believe I would just be climbing them. 994 00:34:26,315 --> 00:34:27,855 So you are technically 995 00:34:28,714 --> 00:34:29,214 now 996 00:34:29,514 --> 00:34:31,434 shorter than me. Yes. But when we first 997 00:34:31,434 --> 00:34:33,199 met, we were eye to eye, and I 998 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:33,699 struggled 999 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,980 with 1000 00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:36,420 feeling submissive 1001 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,440 You did. Because you were not bigger and 1002 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,239 taller. You had it in here that Yes. 1003 00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:42,319 You need to be physically 1004 00:34:42,799 --> 00:34:44,480 So what would you say? Like, how do 1005 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880 you feel dominance? How do you maintain that 1006 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,304 feeling? How do you, like, especially and because 1007 00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:51,484 you've had partners that there was a significant 1008 00:34:51,545 --> 00:34:53,704 size difference. You are our short king, and 1009 00:34:53,704 --> 00:34:56,125 we love you for it. So how how 1010 00:34:56,505 --> 00:34:58,425 how does that work for you? Well, I 1011 00:34:58,425 --> 00:34:59,484 know with you, 1012 00:35:00,184 --> 00:35:00,434 it's 1013 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,139 you know, you were 1014 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,139 carrying on about it one night, 1015 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,880 and I grabbed you by your hair and 1016 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,099 had you on your knees. 1017 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:10,659 You're like, see? 1018 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,539 Right. You did the dominant thing 1019 00:35:13,914 --> 00:35:15,434 and got me into that headspace and I 1020 00:35:15,434 --> 00:35:18,154 had nothing to do with size of body 1021 00:35:18,234 --> 00:35:20,554 Yeah. And height. Exactly. And and I think 1022 00:35:20,554 --> 00:35:22,795 that's where it really comes down to, you 1023 00:35:22,795 --> 00:35:25,594 know, you you you be yourself, you be 1024 00:35:25,594 --> 00:35:26,760 your dominant self, 1025 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:27,659 and 1026 00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:31,400 you just be real and consistent Mhmm. And 1027 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,559 and, you know, everything should fall in place. 1028 00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:35,019 Yep. You know, because, again, 1029 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,135 height, width, you know, whatever. It it doesn't 1030 00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:41,934 it it doesn't matter. One of my favorite 1031 00:35:41,934 --> 00:35:44,094 ever scenes to witness, and I hate watching 1032 00:35:44,094 --> 00:35:45,534 a scene because I get bored and antsy. 1033 00:35:45,534 --> 00:35:47,215 I'm not I know the one you're gonna 1034 00:35:47,215 --> 00:35:47,954 talk about. 1035 00:35:48,735 --> 00:35:49,635 Their dynamic, 1036 00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:51,614 at the time, these were their pronouns, so 1037 00:35:51,614 --> 00:35:52,815 I'm sticking on them because I don't know 1038 00:35:52,815 --> 00:35:54,355 any different. She was 1039 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,519 five foot nothing. Oh, yeah. He was a 1040 00:35:57,519 --> 00:35:59,599 big old boy. He was a bear. He 1041 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,359 was huge. He was massive. He was I'd 1042 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:02,719 have climbed him like a tree too if 1043 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,380 he consented. 1044 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,760 She flitted around almost like a butterfly around 1045 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,594 him while wailing on him. Their Yeah. Their 1046 00:36:10,594 --> 00:36:12,614 play was impact and he could take 1047 00:36:12,914 --> 00:36:13,414 crazy 1048 00:36:13,875 --> 00:36:15,875 hard hard impact. And she was And she 1049 00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:18,135 just went, okay. You're my pinata. 1050 00:36:18,514 --> 00:36:21,175 She was not holding back. But she Mm-mm. 1051 00:36:21,724 --> 00:36:24,230 She used like, she had to work a 1052 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:26,230 little harder to get the strength, to get 1053 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:27,909 the angles, but she was able to give 1054 00:36:27,909 --> 00:36:28,409 him 1055 00:36:28,789 --> 00:36:31,110 experiences from, like, a sensation point that somebody 1056 00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:32,869 his own height or taller could not because 1057 00:36:32,869 --> 00:36:34,965 she's coming up from the bottom, you know? 1058 00:36:36,805 --> 00:36:37,625 But she was 1059 00:36:38,164 --> 00:36:39,545 in scene consensually. 1060 00:36:40,244 --> 00:36:42,965 She was mean and they both loved it 1061 00:36:42,965 --> 00:36:45,125 and it didn't matter what their size was 1062 00:36:45,125 --> 00:36:47,460 because, you know, somebody said in the in 1063 00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:49,559 the live chat, and that is true, dominance 1064 00:36:49,780 --> 00:36:53,619 is is mindset. Dominance is energy. Dominance is 1065 00:36:53,859 --> 00:36:55,619 Yep. The look on your face, the tone 1066 00:36:55,619 --> 00:36:57,539 of your words, you know, what you were 1067 00:36:57,539 --> 00:37:00,420 doing within the negotiated dynamic. It's nothing to 1068 00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:01,811 do with size. Yeah. Nothing to do with 1069 00:37:01,876 --> 00:37:03,824 And and it was it was I I 1070 00:37:03,824 --> 00:37:05,505 have to say it. It was cute as 1071 00:37:05,505 --> 00:37:06,244 hell watching 1072 00:37:07,585 --> 00:37:09,824 her cuddle him after him. Oh, now that 1073 00:37:09,824 --> 00:37:11,684 was hilarious. You would think 1074 00:37:11,985 --> 00:37:14,244 she should have been the little spoon. Right. 1075 00:37:14,465 --> 00:37:16,559 But he needed the comfort and Mhmm. You 1076 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,239 know, she sort of draped herself up. It 1077 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,159 was Yeah. It was a good scene because, 1078 00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,259 man, I was like, holy shit. He's taken 1079 00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:24,799 he's taken a beating and loving it. Oh, 1080 00:37:24,799 --> 00:37:26,440 yeah. But she was this little thing just 1081 00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:28,079 Oh, yeah. She flitting around him. She was 1082 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,663 tiny. Mhmm. She actually I mean, she were 1083 00:37:30,663 --> 00:37:32,775 nuts. Because she was she was small to 1084 00:37:32,775 --> 00:37:34,474 me. Yes. Yes. So 1085 00:37:36,375 --> 00:37:39,494 so my point is Yeah. It doesn't matter. 1086 00:37:39,494 --> 00:37:40,715 And No. Quite frankly, 1087 00:37:41,494 --> 00:37:42,235 when somebody's 1088 00:37:42,614 --> 00:37:44,054 you know, if you want it to have 1089 00:37:44,054 --> 00:37:46,840 that experience of being physically above them, because 1090 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,360 I get it. There's a you know, people 1091 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,019 do use their physical body to dominate to, 1092 00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:52,780 you know, be over somebody. 1093 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,760 They just maybe they need to be be 1094 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,880 on the ground and you need to be 1095 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,480 up top. And and that was another thing 1096 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,840 I was just gonna say. But school maybe 1097 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,360 if that's your thing or 1098 00:38:01,215 --> 00:38:02,815 Learn some of the, what do they call 1099 00:38:02,815 --> 00:38:03,875 it? The gory and, 1100 00:38:04,414 --> 00:38:07,775 kneeling skill, you know, different poses. Mhmm. So, 1101 00:38:07,775 --> 00:38:09,855 you know, if you wanna if you want 1102 00:38:09,855 --> 00:38:10,755 to work within 1103 00:38:11,215 --> 00:38:13,555 body size, don't worry about size, body position. 1104 00:38:14,175 --> 00:38:16,434 You are sitting higher, standing higher, 1105 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,199 whatever. They are if they physically can, they 1106 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:20,900 are lower on the ground than you. 1107 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,900 But if, you know, 1108 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,719 if you can give them the look and 1109 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,719 they respond, if you can say a word, 1110 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,180 use a tone, and they respond, 1111 00:38:28,894 --> 00:38:30,494 that is what matters most of all. If 1112 00:38:30,494 --> 00:38:32,094 you can you know, if y'all are getting 1113 00:38:32,094 --> 00:38:33,855 kinky and have a scene, you can give 1114 00:38:33,855 --> 00:38:36,414 them the sensation that, you know, help whatever 1115 00:38:36,414 --> 00:38:38,195 it is that gets them in their submissive 1116 00:38:38,255 --> 00:38:40,014 mindset. Yeah. It doesn't matter how big or 1117 00:38:40,014 --> 00:38:42,034 small you are. Nope. Not at all. 1118 00:38:44,449 --> 00:38:46,609 Okay. Here we go. I have a new 1119 00:38:46,609 --> 00:38:48,369 play partner. He likes to be dumb, but 1120 00:38:48,369 --> 00:38:50,949 he's shy and doesn't dare to do much. 1121 00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:52,769 How can I support him and help him 1122 00:38:52,769 --> 00:38:54,710 gain the confidence to be more dominant 1123 00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:56,929 and show him new things and what I 1124 00:38:56,929 --> 00:38:58,929 like without feeling like I'm topping from the 1125 00:38:58,929 --> 00:38:59,429 bottom? 1126 00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:03,554 So let's start with that last question. Okay. 1127 00:39:04,255 --> 00:39:06,494 You're gonna talk to your partner about what 1128 00:39:06,494 --> 00:39:08,894 you like. Yeah. You're gonna negotiate it. That 1129 00:39:08,974 --> 00:39:10,355 that's all part of the negotiation. 1130 00:39:11,295 --> 00:39:13,190 Right. So it should not be coming out 1131 00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:14,469 of nowhere, and then you feel like you're 1132 00:39:14,469 --> 00:39:16,469 topping from the bottom. Now you may need 1133 00:39:16,469 --> 00:39:18,650 to teach and show your partner 1134 00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:20,010 what to do. 1135 00:39:20,549 --> 00:39:22,650 Even if you are not a service submissive, 1136 00:39:22,869 --> 00:39:24,309 think of it as an act of service. 1137 00:39:24,309 --> 00:39:25,914 Think of it as a thing that you 1138 00:39:25,914 --> 00:39:28,234 were doing to make your Dom's life better 1139 00:39:28,234 --> 00:39:29,914 in the moment. Mhmm. You are not topping 1140 00:39:29,914 --> 00:39:31,214 from the bottom. You are providing 1141 00:39:31,514 --> 00:39:34,574 unnecessary information. Right. You're keeping everybody safe. 1142 00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:36,655 You're making sure that your Dom 1143 00:39:37,034 --> 00:39:38,635 can do the thing that needs to be 1144 00:39:38,635 --> 00:39:41,090 done. It's not it's never that is never 1145 00:39:41,090 --> 00:39:43,170 topping from the bottom. Yeah. I you know, 1146 00:39:43,170 --> 00:39:45,349 because yeah. You you're coming into this, 1147 00:39:45,809 --> 00:39:47,590 you know, you don't know what 1148 00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:50,610 the Dom's needs and wants are. Right. He 1149 00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:52,150 doesn't know what yours are. 1150 00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:54,464 So, you know, no. It's not. You you 1151 00:39:54,464 --> 00:39:56,644 have to have that conversation. That's an important 1152 00:39:56,704 --> 00:39:58,464 conversation to have. Right. So 1153 00:39:59,585 --> 00:40:01,505 and, you know, there there does tend to 1154 00:40:01,505 --> 00:40:02,244 be this 1155 00:40:02,625 --> 00:40:04,304 because we've talked about it a million times 1156 00:40:04,304 --> 00:40:06,859 over all these years, this mindset of if 1157 00:40:06,859 --> 00:40:08,860 I am I really submissive if I'm kind 1158 00:40:08,860 --> 00:40:09,440 of leading 1159 00:40:09,739 --> 00:40:12,539 this moment, if I'm if I am explaining 1160 00:40:12,539 --> 00:40:14,219 these things to them, if I'm showing them 1161 00:40:14,219 --> 00:40:16,940 things. Here's the thing. You explain stuff, you 1162 00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:18,699 show them. Sometimes you do have to correct. 1163 00:40:18,699 --> 00:40:20,380 Some people don't always do it right the 1164 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:22,545 first time or two. Right? And then you 1165 00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,144 back off and you let them do. As 1166 00:40:24,144 --> 00:40:25,905 long as they're within your boundaries and you 1167 00:40:25,905 --> 00:40:27,025 don't need to say for it out or 1168 00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:28,864 you're not having a bad time, whatever. Right. 1169 00:40:28,864 --> 00:40:31,204 It's you've informed and educated. 1170 00:40:31,505 --> 00:40:34,324 Sometimes that's Mhmm. By physically showing somebody. 1171 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,000 And then you go, okay. You got it. 1172 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,920 You know what I like. You step back. 1173 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719 The dominant part is where they choose how 1174 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,059 and where to do that thing. 1175 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:45,500 Right. You know? 1176 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,280 Us yeah. Assuming they're also doing other things 1177 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,960 that you enjoy even if it's not that 1178 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,594 specific thing. The bigger question, I think, 1179 00:40:53,454 --> 00:40:55,394 is is, may may 1180 00:40:55,695 --> 00:40:57,255 be something you can help with. It's Mhmm. 1181 00:40:57,454 --> 00:40:57,954 Because 1182 00:40:58,255 --> 00:41:00,094 he likes to dominate, but he's shy and 1183 00:41:00,094 --> 00:41:01,695 doesn't wanna do too much as a confident 1184 00:41:01,855 --> 00:41:04,335 that's a confidence thing. Because you could be 1185 00:41:04,335 --> 00:41:05,559 shy and be a dominant. That's not a 1186 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:06,380 problem. Yeah. 1187 00:41:07,319 --> 00:41:08,139 How can 1188 00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:10,359 I support him and help him gain the 1189 00:41:10,359 --> 00:41:11,819 confidence to be more dominant? 1190 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,880 I think one of the biggest things that 1191 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,920 can help is, 1192 00:41:17,799 --> 00:41:20,299 you know, after after any kind of scene, 1193 00:41:20,635 --> 00:41:21,375 you know, 1194 00:41:22,555 --> 00:41:24,655 I mean, be honest, but, you know, 1195 00:41:25,275 --> 00:41:27,295 hey. That was really good. You, you know, 1196 00:41:27,355 --> 00:41:27,855 you, 1197 00:41:28,394 --> 00:41:30,075 you know, this thing you were doing, I 1198 00:41:30,075 --> 00:41:31,934 really liked it. It was that was great. 1199 00:41:32,075 --> 00:41:34,450 Mhmm. Okay. That that kind of thing goes 1200 00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:36,390 a long way to helping build somebody's 1201 00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:37,910 confidence. Mhmm. 1202 00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:41,250 Suggest if it's if it's possible in your 1203 00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:41,750 area, 1204 00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:42,630 workshops. 1205 00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:44,550 Mhmm. You know, to 1206 00:41:45,824 --> 00:41:47,824 both of you attend and and you learn 1207 00:41:47,824 --> 00:41:49,664 things, you know. That's, 1208 00:41:51,184 --> 00:41:53,824 that's another way of doing it. Mhmm. So 1209 00:41:54,065 --> 00:41:55,905 The other thing is the boring answer of 1210 00:41:55,905 --> 00:41:57,824 it takes time. Yeah. You kinda go low 1211 00:41:57,824 --> 00:42:00,239 and slow. So, like, if it's a specific 1212 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,480 kink activity, I'm gonna use impacts because that's 1213 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,320 our thing, and it's just easy to do 1214 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,140 examples for. 1215 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:08,019 If they've never spanked somebody 1216 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,019 ever Mhmm. 1217 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,480 Then we're not gonna hand them a crop 1218 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,214 and go go to town. Right? We're gonna 1219 00:42:14,214 --> 00:42:14,875 start with 1220 00:42:15,175 --> 00:42:17,255 hand on ass. I've said it before. I 1221 00:42:17,255 --> 00:42:17,755 have, 1222 00:42:18,775 --> 00:42:21,755 flogged many a pillow into submission practicing. 1223 00:42:22,295 --> 00:42:24,855 There's practice, and then there's also so practice 1224 00:42:24,855 --> 00:42:27,255 on any of my objects. Sure. But there's 1225 00:42:27,255 --> 00:42:29,510 also what y'all do. So 1226 00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:30,630 you might 1227 00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:32,390 not, in the beginning, 1228 00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:34,550 be doing as much 1229 00:42:34,930 --> 00:42:37,250 as you would like to, intricate as intricate 1230 00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:39,090 as you would like to, but that's so 1231 00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:40,769 that they have time to learn and gain 1232 00:42:40,769 --> 00:42:41,989 some confidence. So 1233 00:42:42,545 --> 00:42:44,385 let's say it's a spanking and they're willing 1234 00:42:44,385 --> 00:42:45,905 and you're both willing blah blah blah. Well, 1235 00:42:45,905 --> 00:42:48,385 they're gonna start out slow smacking your ass. 1236 00:42:48,385 --> 00:42:51,105 Right? They're gonna do some test strikes and 1237 00:42:51,105 --> 00:42:53,664 you're gonna provide feedback. You're gonna go Mhmm. 1238 00:42:53,744 --> 00:42:56,019 That felt great. You can go harder. Yeah. 1239 00:42:56,019 --> 00:42:58,420 Not that hard. Whatever. Whatever. Mhmm. And they're 1240 00:42:58,420 --> 00:42:59,400 going to learn 1241 00:43:00,019 --> 00:43:02,819 how you know, what that feels like as 1242 00:43:02,819 --> 00:43:04,519 they do it for you and them. 1243 00:43:05,219 --> 00:43:05,859 You know, the 1244 00:43:06,579 --> 00:43:07,539 when somebody's new 1245 00:43:08,375 --> 00:43:10,295 either or both of you. When somebody's new 1246 00:43:10,295 --> 00:43:11,994 to Kinky Play or Power Exchange, 1247 00:43:12,534 --> 00:43:14,775 in the beginning, the one who knows more, 1248 00:43:14,775 --> 00:43:16,394 has more experience, whatever whatever, 1249 00:43:17,574 --> 00:43:19,174 you do a lot of it's a lot 1250 00:43:19,174 --> 00:43:20,694 of feedback. It's a lot of try the 1251 00:43:20,694 --> 00:43:22,295 thing, give the feedback, try the thing, give 1252 00:43:22,295 --> 00:43:23,909 the feedback. Because that's how the person who 1253 00:43:23,909 --> 00:43:25,609 don't have a clue is gonna learn. 1254 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:28,550 This works. This doesn't. I I know I 1255 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:30,550 know how to do that. Okay. I tried 1256 00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:32,949 this. That didn't work. Whatever. And it's not 1257 00:43:32,949 --> 00:43:35,690 the, like, fantasy scene where, you know, you 1258 00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:38,534 you get to, like, let somebody take total 1259 00:43:38,534 --> 00:43:40,215 control and turn your brain off. It's you 1260 00:43:40,215 --> 00:43:41,734 know, you can get there, but you gotta 1261 00:43:41,734 --> 00:43:43,355 give them time to get there. 1262 00:43:44,454 --> 00:43:46,454 On the doesn't wanna do too much, is 1263 00:43:46,454 --> 00:43:48,295 it, like, doesn't wanna hurt you? You're gonna 1264 00:43:48,295 --> 00:43:49,574 have to give a lot of feedback. You're 1265 00:43:49,574 --> 00:43:50,775 gonna have to go, I can take it. 1266 00:43:50,775 --> 00:43:52,715 I want more. Mhmm. You know? 1267 00:43:53,469 --> 00:43:55,710 And and then they might move at a 1268 00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:58,190 slower pace than you want, but as as 1269 00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:59,869 long as there's some level of forward movement, 1270 00:43:59,869 --> 00:44:01,869 I think you're fine. Within their own boundaries. 1271 00:44:01,869 --> 00:44:04,269 Like, there there are absolutely doms and just 1272 00:44:04,269 --> 00:44:05,949 people in general, but doms who are like, 1273 00:44:05,949 --> 00:44:08,585 I don't wanna hurt anybody that much. I'm 1274 00:44:08,585 --> 00:44:11,065 not interested in that. Yeah. So there's also 1275 00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:12,764 the navigating that, like, 1276 00:44:13,065 --> 00:44:14,824 where are their boundaries here? Their limits and 1277 00:44:14,824 --> 00:44:17,545 boundaries. And when you're new, sometimes your boundaries 1278 00:44:17,545 --> 00:44:19,704 are very close. It's a it's a very 1279 00:44:19,704 --> 00:44:22,105 small little Venn diagram of what you're willing 1280 00:44:22,105 --> 00:44:24,639 to do. But as you gain experience and 1281 00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:27,860 confidence That that's gross. You yes. Yes. Exactly. 1282 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,780 Okay. 1283 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:32,659 Oh, this oh, this one. 1284 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,500 Should I still call my d partner 1285 00:44:38,945 --> 00:44:41,764 daddy if they use it with another person? 1286 00:44:45,264 --> 00:44:47,264 I don't I don't know if they finish 1287 00:44:47,264 --> 00:44:47,764 their, 1288 00:44:48,625 --> 00:44:50,465 sentence because it says, if they use it 1289 00:44:50,465 --> 00:44:52,784 with another person to mean much. I'm not 1290 00:44:52,784 --> 00:44:54,809 sure what that part meant, meant. But Mhmm. 1291 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:57,269 Is it a should I still call them 1292 00:44:57,269 --> 00:44:59,929 daddy if somebody else is calling them daddy? 1293 00:45:00,949 --> 00:45:04,089 That's personal. Yeah. It is. That's personal. Yeah. 1294 00:45:06,405 --> 00:45:08,005 I think I'm much more relaxed about this 1295 00:45:08,005 --> 00:45:09,364 than I used to be. We did used 1296 00:45:09,364 --> 00:45:10,405 to have a rule that I was just 1297 00:45:10,405 --> 00:45:12,085 like, I I don't like the idea of 1298 00:45:12,085 --> 00:45:14,244 anybody calling you daddy. You're my daddy. I 1299 00:45:14,244 --> 00:45:16,344 I think I could handle it better now. 1300 00:45:16,485 --> 00:45:18,025 I don't know. That might have been insecurity. 1301 00:45:19,125 --> 00:45:21,849 But my question is Mhmm. If you had 1302 00:45:21,849 --> 00:45:24,110 me and another partner calling you daddy, 1303 00:45:24,969 --> 00:45:27,070 like, can you imagine how you might feel? 1304 00:45:27,769 --> 00:45:29,050 Like, would that be weird? Would you be 1305 00:45:29,050 --> 00:45:30,409 like, okay. That's a big deal. I could 1306 00:45:30,409 --> 00:45:31,769 separate it in my mind. Ma'am, would that 1307 00:45:31,769 --> 00:45:32,505 be an ego boost? 1308 00:45:34,424 --> 00:45:37,224 Boost? I assure you there is somebody on 1309 00:45:37,224 --> 00:45:39,224 the Internet who would love to call you 1310 00:45:39,224 --> 00:45:39,724 daddy. 1311 00:45:40,744 --> 00:45:42,204 Get consent first, y'all. 1312 00:45:43,224 --> 00:45:43,884 Mhmm. So, 1313 00:45:44,264 --> 00:45:46,344 you know, I don't know. I honestly don't 1314 00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:46,844 know. 1315 00:45:47,909 --> 00:45:49,589 I wish we had a like, another person 1316 00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:51,269 here so you could just hear it, like, 1317 00:45:51,269 --> 00:45:52,010 in stereo. 1318 00:45:52,469 --> 00:45:54,630 Yeah. Because I I mean, because because, you 1319 00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:56,789 know, of of how you had felt about 1320 00:45:56,789 --> 00:45:57,289 that, 1321 00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:59,269 you know You never let yourself think about 1322 00:45:59,269 --> 00:46:00,089 it? No. 1323 00:46:00,869 --> 00:46:01,369 And, 1324 00:46:02,925 --> 00:46:03,585 you know, 1325 00:46:03,965 --> 00:46:06,525 like, one called me papa bear. Mhmm. You 1326 00:46:06,525 --> 00:46:08,844 know? And that was the same vibe, same 1327 00:46:08,844 --> 00:46:11,744 energy. Yes. So I think it's personal preference, 1328 00:46:12,364 --> 00:46:12,864 ultimately. 1329 00:46:13,724 --> 00:46:15,505 Can you use the same 1330 00:46:15,969 --> 00:46:18,210 honorific title label with a partner that somebody 1331 00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:20,130 else is using? Of course, you can. Yeah. 1332 00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:21,510 If it makes you uncomfortable, 1333 00:46:22,610 --> 00:46:24,369 it's not on that other person to change. 1334 00:46:24,369 --> 00:46:26,050 It's on you to decide to change, to 1335 00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:27,349 find another term 1336 00:46:28,164 --> 00:46:30,404 that hits right, but That works for you. 1337 00:46:30,484 --> 00:46:33,204 Is different enough that you're like Yeah. Okay. 1338 00:46:33,204 --> 00:46:35,284 This is my special thing to call them. 1339 00:46:35,284 --> 00:46:37,525 To some people, that is important. That's, you 1340 00:46:37,525 --> 00:46:39,924 know, that's a a very personal thing. It's 1341 00:46:39,924 --> 00:46:41,969 a very intimate thing to, yeah, what you 1342 00:46:41,969 --> 00:46:44,150 call your partner and, you know, whatever. 1343 00:46:44,449 --> 00:46:46,949 So you do not have to change anything, 1344 00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:49,590 but you can. Mhmm. But 1345 00:46:49,969 --> 00:46:50,469 if 1346 00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:53,250 they're you can't control what the other person 1347 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:55,329 does. Right? You can only control you. So 1348 00:46:55,329 --> 00:46:57,375 if you don't like the idea of two 1349 00:46:57,375 --> 00:46:59,295 two people using that same title, like whether 1350 00:46:59,295 --> 00:47:00,974 it's a former partner or a current partner 1351 00:47:00,974 --> 00:47:01,554 in you, 1352 00:47:02,894 --> 00:47:05,295 you either have to decide that it ultimately 1353 00:47:05,295 --> 00:47:07,375 doesn't matter to you or you have to 1354 00:47:07,375 --> 00:47:09,074 decide what you're gonna call them instead. 1355 00:47:09,619 --> 00:47:11,140 Like, because if we're talking about a former 1356 00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:13,140 partner, well, you can't change that. That's in 1357 00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:14,360 the past now. Right. 1358 00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:17,219 And if it's another partner or another person 1359 00:47:17,219 --> 00:47:19,619 like daddy, that could be their child calling 1360 00:47:19,619 --> 00:47:20,360 them daddy. 1361 00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:23,940 That's why I kinda giggled when I read 1362 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:25,755 this because I was like, we've had this 1363 00:47:25,755 --> 00:47:28,155 conversation. Would I call JV daddy if my 1364 00:47:28,155 --> 00:47:29,835 own father, who I called daddy for the 1365 00:47:29,835 --> 00:47:32,234 first twenty two years of my life, because 1366 00:47:32,234 --> 00:47:33,614 that's how long he was alive, 1367 00:47:34,234 --> 00:47:36,394 if he was still alive? And I can't 1368 00:47:36,394 --> 00:47:38,335 answer that because I'm not in that position. 1369 00:47:38,474 --> 00:47:39,960 Yeah. I don't have to know what that 1370 00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:42,460 feels like. I mean, you can, you know, 1371 00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:44,839 conjecture and and Right. Guess and all that, 1372 00:47:44,839 --> 00:47:45,320 but 1373 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,179 Exactly. You never know 1374 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,400 how you're going to react or feel until 1375 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,780 you're actually in the situation. 1376 00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:53,719 Mhmm. So In in that moment. There's no 1377 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,239 should. There's no because there's no right or 1378 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,505 wrong. What works for the two of y'all? 1379 00:47:57,505 --> 00:47:59,285 What feels good for you? Mhmm. 1380 00:48:00,545 --> 00:48:02,144 Just how do you feel about it? And 1381 00:48:02,144 --> 00:48:03,125 that feeling 1382 00:48:03,905 --> 00:48:04,644 is valid. 1383 00:48:05,184 --> 00:48:07,184 It's the actions that are gonna matter more. 1384 00:48:07,184 --> 00:48:09,239 You can't demand somebody else say something different. 1385 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,619 You can only change your behavior. 1386 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,480 If you can't if you don't like the 1387 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,480 idea that they are daddy to somebody else 1388 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,940 for any reason, relationship, 1389 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,059 power exchange, 1390 00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:20,860 parenting, like, whatever the the reason, 1391 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,735 if that's you don't like that, then pick 1392 00:48:23,735 --> 00:48:25,835 something else. And there are 1393 00:48:26,375 --> 00:48:28,535 so many terms you can use, and I 1394 00:48:28,775 --> 00:48:29,835 I'll try to remember 1395 00:48:30,614 --> 00:48:31,594 to link this, 1396 00:48:32,295 --> 00:48:34,295 in the show notes and and in YouTube 1397 00:48:34,295 --> 00:48:35,434 after we're done streaming. 1398 00:48:36,295 --> 00:48:38,670 I came across and utilized a lot, 1399 00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:42,769 massive long lists that somebody on Reddit created 1400 00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:45,389 for the kink online kink community of all 1401 00:48:45,389 --> 00:48:47,630 these terms you can use to to call 1402 00:48:47,710 --> 00:48:49,230 what to call your dominant, what to call 1403 00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:51,085 your sub so that you can because you 1404 00:48:51,085 --> 00:48:53,085 can get creative and it'll maybe spark some 1405 00:48:53,085 --> 00:48:55,164 ideas if you do decide to call them 1406 00:48:55,164 --> 00:48:56,305 something other than daddy. 1407 00:48:57,644 --> 00:48:58,144 Okay. 1408 00:48:59,085 --> 00:49:01,324 I am a sex positive therapist. How do 1409 00:49:01,324 --> 00:49:04,144 you think most kinksters feel about therapy? 1410 00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:08,650 Most? 1411 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:12,150 That yeah. It's Yeah. I have no idea 1412 00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:13,989 what most of anybody thinks. I mean, I 1413 00:49:13,989 --> 00:49:15,849 I can tell you what I think. Right. 1414 00:49:16,389 --> 00:49:16,710 And, 1415 00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:19,190 I I think it's it's good. Mhmm. I 1416 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:20,170 think it's helpful. 1417 00:49:23,324 --> 00:49:23,985 You know, 1418 00:49:24,684 --> 00:49:25,664 I was in therapy. 1419 00:49:26,445 --> 00:49:27,724 I would go back if I could. And 1420 00:49:27,724 --> 00:49:28,925 I would go back in a heartbeat if 1421 00:49:28,925 --> 00:49:30,625 I could afford to right now. Yes. Yep. 1422 00:49:30,765 --> 00:49:31,265 Absolutely. 1423 00:49:31,805 --> 00:49:33,405 But, you know, no. 1424 00:49:33,805 --> 00:49:35,565 You know, yeah. I I I believe in 1425 00:49:35,565 --> 00:49:37,329 it. I think therapy is is a good 1426 00:49:37,329 --> 00:49:39,730 thing. I it's it helps. Right. This is 1427 00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:41,650 pure conjecture. I have no way of knowing. 1428 00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:43,250 I don't know if anybody's ever done, like, 1429 00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:45,429 any sort of survey of the kink community. 1430 00:49:45,489 --> 00:49:45,989 Yeah. 1431 00:49:47,570 --> 00:49:48,070 Because, 1432 00:49:49,570 --> 00:49:50,070 overwhelmingly, 1433 00:49:51,065 --> 00:49:51,965 the kink community 1434 00:49:52,345 --> 00:49:55,644 understands the need for open and clear communication 1435 00:49:56,345 --> 00:49:59,545 and boundaries and consent and negotiates these things 1436 00:49:59,545 --> 00:50:01,945 well or tries to or learns to negotiate 1437 00:50:01,945 --> 00:50:04,204 them well, and navigate them well. 1438 00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,219 I think in theory 1439 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,360 probably more kinksters than not are absolutely open 1440 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,360 to therapy willing to do it. Understand it's 1441 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,699 a a net good for so many. 1442 00:50:18,695 --> 00:50:19,195 But 1443 00:50:20,375 --> 00:50:22,614 it's hard to know because I'll say it 1444 00:50:22,614 --> 00:50:24,934 again, kink community is just a cross section 1445 00:50:24,934 --> 00:50:25,515 of humanity 1446 00:50:25,974 --> 00:50:28,375 and there are absolutely people who don't think 1447 00:50:28,375 --> 00:50:30,215 therapy is real who refuse to talk to 1448 00:50:30,215 --> 00:50:32,019 somebody who are like, I'm not gonna, you 1449 00:50:32,019 --> 00:50:34,660 know, talk's not gonna fix my problems. What's 1450 00:50:34,660 --> 00:50:36,920 it there? Like, of course there are. 1451 00:50:38,099 --> 00:50:38,599 But 1452 00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:40,280 there's probably 1453 00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:43,720 something to it that studies have found that 1454 00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:44,760 in general, 1455 00:50:45,664 --> 00:50:48,164 on an average of spectrum of like, statistically, 1456 00:50:49,344 --> 00:50:49,844 kinksters 1457 00:50:50,224 --> 00:50:51,764 tend to have, 1458 00:50:52,224 --> 00:50:52,885 you know, 1459 00:50:53,264 --> 00:50:54,484 better mental health 1460 00:50:54,945 --> 00:50:56,804 outcomes than non kinksters. 1461 00:50:57,860 --> 00:51:00,660 One article I read several weeks ago, I 1462 00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:02,099 put it in our newsletter because I put 1463 00:51:02,099 --> 00:51:03,960 those kinds of articles in our weekly newsletter, 1464 00:51:05,219 --> 00:51:07,300 talked about how, you know, when you are 1465 00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:09,800 free to be who you truly are Mhmm. 1466 00:51:10,179 --> 00:51:12,005 And you tend to you tend to be 1467 00:51:12,005 --> 00:51:14,405 happier than the average person who maybe is 1468 00:51:14,405 --> 00:51:14,905 not 1469 00:51:15,204 --> 00:51:16,184 living their truth. 1470 00:51:17,125 --> 00:51:19,525 So there's probably something there as well. And 1471 00:51:19,525 --> 00:51:21,204 and I know for a while too there 1472 00:51:21,204 --> 00:51:21,605 was, 1473 00:51:22,244 --> 00:51:23,570 you know, a thing, 1474 00:51:25,789 --> 00:51:27,570 going around people that 1475 00:51:28,190 --> 00:51:28,690 to 1476 00:51:29,309 --> 00:51:30,829 I'm trying to think of the words, how 1477 00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:31,809 to put the words, 1478 00:51:33,469 --> 00:51:33,969 that 1479 00:51:36,750 --> 00:51:37,650 can can be 1480 00:51:47,175 --> 00:51:49,734 thing I would say, not because there's no 1481 00:51:49,734 --> 00:51:51,940 way to know how most kinksters feel about 1482 00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:53,480 therapy. Here's what I will tell. 1483 00:51:53,780 --> 00:51:56,099 From my experience, this is anecdotal. I have 1484 00:51:56,099 --> 00:51:56,840 no data. 1485 00:51:58,420 --> 00:51:59,880 The kinksters who 1486 00:52:00,579 --> 00:52:02,660 want therapy would have a therapist in a 1487 00:52:02,660 --> 00:52:04,724 heartbeat if they had the resources for it, 1488 00:52:05,204 --> 00:52:07,625 are seeking a therapist. What they want 1489 00:52:08,005 --> 00:52:10,565 in the conversations I've had is a kink 1490 00:52:10,565 --> 00:52:11,545 aware therapist. 1491 00:52:12,085 --> 00:52:14,244 They either don't wanna have to hide that 1492 00:52:14,244 --> 00:52:15,925 they're kinky even if they're not really gonna 1493 00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:18,244 talk about it. Things come up like, you 1494 00:52:18,244 --> 00:52:19,869 know, hell, hell, what if you saw a 1495 00:52:19,869 --> 00:52:21,630 bruise around their wrist because they had some 1496 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:23,070 you know what I mean? And they're like, 1497 00:52:23,309 --> 00:52:25,309 it's a bruise. You know? It gets weird 1498 00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:27,309 when you can't just you don't feel comfortable 1499 00:52:27,309 --> 00:52:28,750 to just go, I'm kinky, and we did 1500 00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:30,130 this thing this weekend. Right? 1501 00:52:30,670 --> 00:52:32,449 Some of us, ourselves included, 1502 00:52:33,070 --> 00:52:34,724 the first so far the only. But the 1503 00:52:34,724 --> 00:52:36,164 first time I went to a therapist, I 1504 00:52:36,164 --> 00:52:37,924 was looking for a kink aware therapist because 1505 00:52:37,924 --> 00:52:39,284 I was I needed to be able to 1506 00:52:39,284 --> 00:52:41,284 talk about my relationship. And to understand our 1507 00:52:41,284 --> 00:52:43,864 relationship, you have to understand the dynamic. Exactly. 1508 00:52:44,005 --> 00:52:46,644 What kinksters have told me, and I agree, 1509 00:52:46,644 --> 00:52:48,025 I don't wanna do this either, 1510 00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:50,079 is I don't want you to just be 1511 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,780 open to kink I want you to have 1512 00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:54,559 very limited basic awareness of what it is. 1513 00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:55,679 Mhmm. That's what a lot of people say 1514 00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:56,880 is, I don't wanna have to teach my 1515 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,800 therapist what the fuck a power exchange is 1516 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,579 just to get through to the conversation 1517 00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:02,644 about whatever whatever. Right? 1518 00:53:03,025 --> 00:53:04,864 Or to wonder, oh God, are they gonna 1519 00:53:04,864 --> 00:53:06,864 think that I'm automatically being abused because I'm 1520 00:53:06,864 --> 00:53:07,525 the submissive? 1521 00:53:07,905 --> 00:53:08,405 So 1522 00:53:08,784 --> 00:53:10,485 regardless of how many kinksters 1523 00:53:10,864 --> 00:53:13,344 want therapy, believe in therapy, go to therapy, 1524 00:53:13,344 --> 00:53:14,945 no way of knowing unless somebody does a 1525 00:53:14,945 --> 00:53:15,900 study on that, 1526 00:53:16,380 --> 00:53:17,679 I think it's more important 1527 00:53:18,299 --> 00:53:20,639 for therapists who are who 1528 00:53:21,260 --> 00:53:23,519 know that the kink community exists 1529 00:53:24,139 --> 00:53:24,639 to 1530 00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:27,420 just bare bones, get an more than just 1531 00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:29,440 an awareness of kink. Get a basic, 1532 00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,514 like real basic understanding of power exchange and 1533 00:53:32,514 --> 00:53:33,894 kink dynamics and BDSM 1534 00:53:34,434 --> 00:53:35,175 so that 1535 00:53:35,875 --> 00:53:38,034 and then put yourself in spaces where kinksters 1536 00:53:38,034 --> 00:53:38,534 are. 1537 00:53:39,394 --> 00:53:41,574 They'll come to you. I mean, we 1538 00:53:41,954 --> 00:53:43,795 we did this years ago when we still 1539 00:53:43,795 --> 00:53:45,840 lived in the Tampa Bay area. And I 1540 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,119 I know we've tried to do it here, 1541 00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,140 and we probably could if we we have. 1542 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,739 We will go on FetLife 1543 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,500 and look for folks 1544 00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:55,920 for any service industry if they're kinky. Our 1545 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,674 HVAC guy is a kinkster. No. Does he 1546 00:53:58,674 --> 00:54:00,674 listen to the podcast? I don't know. If 1547 00:54:00,674 --> 00:54:02,114 you do, you know who you are. It 1548 00:54:02,114 --> 00:54:04,454 won't out you because privacy concerns all that. 1549 00:54:05,234 --> 00:54:06,674 In the past when we were looking for 1550 00:54:06,674 --> 00:54:08,835 an accountant who let us down seriously, the 1551 00:54:08,835 --> 00:54:09,574 first one, 1552 00:54:09,954 --> 00:54:12,670 kingster. The second one, also a kingster. Star. 1553 00:54:12,670 --> 00:54:13,170 So, 1554 00:54:13,469 --> 00:54:14,929 like, I think 1555 00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:17,250 not all. Our real estate. 1556 00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:19,869 Yes. Was from the kink community. That's that's 1557 00:54:19,869 --> 00:54:21,710 the thing I found. Not with every kinkster, 1558 00:54:21,710 --> 00:54:22,690 we're not a monolith. 1559 00:54:23,070 --> 00:54:25,150 But kinksters who think about things like that, 1560 00:54:25,150 --> 00:54:27,309 who maybe, like us, your whole life is 1561 00:54:27,309 --> 00:54:29,684 your is kinky Mhmm. And your kinky shit 1562 00:54:29,684 --> 00:54:31,204 is all over your house and you gotta 1563 00:54:31,204 --> 00:54:33,125 get a service from somebody. We're looking for 1564 00:54:33,125 --> 00:54:35,925 kinksters and or people who are openly kink 1565 00:54:35,925 --> 00:54:36,425 friendly. 1566 00:54:37,125 --> 00:54:38,585 That's who we want. Mhmm. 1567 00:54:39,285 --> 00:54:41,204 Because we don't need the judgment. We don't 1568 00:54:41,204 --> 00:54:41,299 wanna hide anything. And I and as for 1569 00:54:41,299 --> 00:54:41,445 me personally in therapy, I don't want to 1570 00:54:41,445 --> 00:54:41,945 explain 1571 00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:47,340 kink to you. I'm not there to be 1572 00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:51,019 Kayla Lords loving BDSM content creator. Mhmm. Okay? 1573 00:54:51,019 --> 00:54:52,559 I am there to tell you 1574 00:54:53,099 --> 00:54:55,514 all of the the sludge in my brain. 1575 00:54:55,755 --> 00:54:57,835 So And that's kinda what ended up happening 1576 00:54:57,835 --> 00:55:00,275 with me. Mhmm. That's why I ended up 1577 00:55:00,315 --> 00:55:01,914 Yeah. It was a little less effective. Yeah. 1578 00:55:01,914 --> 00:55:04,074 Yeah. Now if you are and I'll I'll 1579 00:55:04,074 --> 00:55:05,355 try to remember to put this in the 1580 00:55:05,355 --> 00:55:07,514 plate the link in the places after the 1581 00:55:07,514 --> 00:55:08,014 stream. 1582 00:55:08,750 --> 00:55:10,609 There is a site through the National 1583 00:55:12,269 --> 00:55:14,429 Coalition of Sexual Freedom. Mhmm. Took me a 1584 00:55:14,429 --> 00:55:16,449 second. I know. They keep 1585 00:55:17,309 --> 00:55:19,309 a page up of a database of people 1586 00:55:19,309 --> 00:55:21,730 who add themselves under all kinds of industries 1587 00:55:21,869 --> 00:55:22,369 across. 1588 00:55:22,815 --> 00:55:24,734 I've seen primarily The US, but I think 1589 00:55:24,734 --> 00:55:26,175 in other countries and, 1590 00:55:27,054 --> 00:55:28,034 on other continents. 1591 00:55:28,894 --> 00:55:31,614 If you are a kink friendly, kink aware, 1592 00:55:31,614 --> 00:55:32,114 whatever 1593 00:55:32,655 --> 00:55:35,295 professional of some sort, therapists are a big 1594 00:55:35,295 --> 00:55:37,849 one. I've personally, I think, used the site 1595 00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:40,329 mainly for that. But there are other industries 1596 00:55:40,329 --> 00:55:42,090 there. So if you are looking for somebody 1597 00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:42,910 like a therapist, 1598 00:55:43,610 --> 00:55:45,690 we'll link to it after we're done streaming, 1599 00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:47,769 you can do that. If you yourself are 1600 00:55:47,769 --> 00:55:50,175 a kink aware professional and would like 1601 00:55:50,574 --> 00:55:52,515 to get in front of more kinky people, 1602 00:55:52,974 --> 00:55:54,355 that is one place to do 1603 00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:56,255 it. Because those of us who know about 1604 00:55:56,255 --> 00:55:58,675 that site, fucking use that site. Mhmm. 1605 00:55:59,135 --> 00:56:01,155 Okay. Last question. Okay. 1606 00:56:01,454 --> 00:56:03,614 How did you two spin up your DS 1607 00:56:03,614 --> 00:56:06,469 Dynamic while long distance? What got you started? 1608 00:56:11,090 --> 00:56:13,010 Well, what started out started it for us 1609 00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:14,869 was we just dipped our toes in it. 1610 00:56:15,489 --> 00:56:17,489 Yeah. Because we were talking and flirting and 1611 00:56:17,489 --> 00:56:20,175 realizing we were we liked one another. Mhmm. 1612 00:56:20,175 --> 00:56:22,015 Not necessarily like liked, but, like, we were 1613 00:56:22,015 --> 00:56:23,934 friends with one another. We got along on 1614 00:56:23,934 --> 00:56:25,474 that way, and we both 1615 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:28,095 met knowing we're kingsters. So there was none 1616 00:56:28,095 --> 00:56:29,555 of this, like, introducing 1617 00:56:30,095 --> 00:56:30,755 Yeah. No. 1618 00:56:31,055 --> 00:56:32,575 I know a sub. You know it's Dom. 1619 00:56:32,575 --> 00:56:34,010 We came at it from that. 1620 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:36,170 So as the friendship developed, 1621 00:56:36,550 --> 00:56:38,250 I asked you to, 1622 00:56:38,869 --> 00:56:40,570 in a a dominant way, 1623 00:56:40,869 --> 00:56:41,929 help me with 1624 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:42,809 something. 1625 00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:46,390 I think it's the same old thing I've 1626 00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:48,025 been asking you to help me with for 1627 00:56:48,025 --> 00:56:49,164 all these years. Yeah. 1628 00:56:50,025 --> 00:56:51,885 We haven't started it yet. 1629 00:56:52,664 --> 00:56:55,065 And that was the start. You know, we 1630 00:56:55,065 --> 00:56:57,144 were still being friends. We were still I 1631 00:56:57,144 --> 00:56:57,644 I, 1632 00:56:58,585 --> 00:57:00,210 would play 20 questions by text 1633 00:57:02,769 --> 00:57:04,929 and I mean that literally. What is your 1634 00:57:04,929 --> 00:57:07,089 favorite color? What's your favorite dessert? What's your 1635 00:57:07,089 --> 00:57:09,429 favorite this? I would be sit I remember 1636 00:57:09,570 --> 00:57:11,510 one particular time I was at 1637 00:57:12,050 --> 00:57:13,030 Captain D's. 1638 00:57:13,409 --> 00:57:15,190 I was, like, eating lunch 1639 00:57:15,554 --> 00:57:16,214 and texting you, 1640 00:57:16,755 --> 00:57:18,295 and we were playing 20 questions. 1641 00:57:20,675 --> 00:57:23,234 So Yeah. But we did. We started with 1642 00:57:23,234 --> 00:57:24,914 a thing that was not sexual at all. 1643 00:57:24,914 --> 00:57:27,234 It was a task oriented kind of thing 1644 00:57:27,394 --> 00:57:30,179 Mhmm. While still developing the friendship and 1645 00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:34,119 quick fairly quickly going beyond friendship. Yeah. 1646 00:57:35,619 --> 00:57:37,699 Once we got beyond friendship and it got 1647 00:57:37,699 --> 00:57:38,199 sexy, 1648 00:57:39,460 --> 00:57:41,460 then there was more to it. Because then 1649 00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:42,465 we're playing with orgasm 1650 00:57:43,985 --> 00:57:46,465 control in general. And And I was picking 1651 00:57:46,465 --> 00:57:48,305 out panties for you to wear and And 1652 00:57:48,305 --> 00:57:50,085 I had to send a picture every day. 1653 00:57:50,385 --> 00:57:51,765 Making the panty database, 1654 00:57:53,025 --> 00:57:54,005 that was peak 1655 00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:56,260 geeky nerdy Yeah. 1656 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:57,780 Kinky shit. 1657 00:57:58,239 --> 00:57:59,460 Because I had to 1658 00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:03,119 for somebody who doesn't wear underwear regularly now, 1659 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:04,559 I have a shit ton of underwear. I 1660 00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,000 did then too because I love me some 1661 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:06,739 pretty panties. 1662 00:58:07,625 --> 00:58:09,385 I had to take a picture of every 1663 00:58:09,385 --> 00:58:11,964 single pair of underwear I owned. 1664 00:58:12,824 --> 00:58:14,905 And the method we had back in the 1665 00:58:14,905 --> 00:58:17,085 day, because this was 2013. 1666 00:58:17,944 --> 00:58:18,444 Goddamn. 1667 00:58:19,144 --> 00:58:21,569 I uploaded all those to a drop box. 1668 00:58:22,349 --> 00:58:22,849 Mhmm. 1669 00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:25,630 And Jamie would send me a picture of 1670 00:58:25,630 --> 00:58:27,710 which panties I was wearing that day so 1671 00:58:27,710 --> 00:58:29,469 he could stay organized and I could stay 1672 00:58:29,469 --> 00:58:29,969 organized. 1673 00:58:30,429 --> 00:58:31,409 Yep. But, 1674 00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:34,269 yep. You you too can feel submissive taking 1675 00:58:34,269 --> 00:58:35,414 pictures of your underwear. 1676 00:58:39,875 --> 00:58:41,554 It was a slow and steady kind of 1677 00:58:41,554 --> 00:58:44,034 thing. Because we were long distance, there wasn't 1678 00:58:44,034 --> 00:58:46,034 a lot of task oriented stuff. Every once 1679 00:58:46,034 --> 00:58:47,010 in a while, you'd be like, can you 1680 00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:48,690 look this up for me? Can you whatever 1681 00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:50,210 whatever. Or I'd offer to help you with 1682 00:58:50,210 --> 00:58:50,710 something. 1683 00:58:51,409 --> 00:58:53,730 And it was for us mostly sexual because 1684 00:58:53,730 --> 00:58:55,329 that was a very easy way to play 1685 00:58:55,329 --> 00:58:56,390 with power dynamics. 1686 00:58:56,769 --> 00:58:58,210 We would be talking on the phone the 1687 00:58:58,210 --> 00:59:00,130 way I woke up every morning was JB 1688 00:59:00,130 --> 00:59:00,914 would call me, 1689 00:59:01,635 --> 00:59:03,974 And then he would talk me through 1690 00:59:04,275 --> 00:59:04,775 masturbation 1691 00:59:05,635 --> 00:59:07,235 and either I got a whole bunch of 1692 00:59:07,235 --> 00:59:10,035 orgasms or maybe maybe I got one after 1693 00:59:10,035 --> 00:59:11,574 way too long of being edged. 1694 00:59:13,715 --> 00:59:14,914 And I you know, I do think if 1695 00:59:14,914 --> 00:59:16,135 there's a sexual component, 1696 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,800 it feels easier because there's so much power 1697 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,480 play you can do in sex. Mhmm. It's 1698 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,480 not required. You just you'll have to be 1699 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,559 creative if you're long distance and it's, you 1700 00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,619 know, either service oriented or maybe some self 1701 00:59:28,635 --> 00:59:31,195 application of kinky stuff for the benefit of 1702 00:59:31,195 --> 00:59:32,715 your partner. Right? Because I I even had 1703 00:59:32,715 --> 00:59:34,315 you doing research on different, 1704 00:59:34,954 --> 00:59:36,094 kink topics. Mhmm. 1705 00:59:36,715 --> 00:59:39,054 And basically writing little mini papers. Yep. 1706 00:59:39,835 --> 00:59:41,434 Which all you were doing was getting me 1707 00:59:41,434 --> 00:59:43,510 prepared to be Kayla Lord, sex blogger and 1708 00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:44,329 sex writer. 1709 00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:45,849 I appreciate you. 1710 00:59:47,029 --> 00:59:48,630 Yeah. Doing it and I didn't know what 1711 00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:49,690 I was doing. Exactly. 1712 00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:52,889 But that, 1713 00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:54,164 you know, it 1714 00:59:55,045 --> 00:59:56,824 it we started out as friends. 1715 00:59:57,125 --> 00:59:57,625 Mhmm. 1716 00:59:58,405 --> 01:00:00,164 But we both knew what we were, and 1717 01:00:00,164 --> 01:00:01,605 we were Yeah. Like, that was never a 1718 01:00:01,605 --> 01:00:04,085 secret. Nobody had to divulge. We Mm-mm. Done. 1719 01:00:04,085 --> 01:00:05,605 Because we met online. Like, I 1720 01:00:06,739 --> 01:00:08,019 people ask, you know, where do I go 1721 01:00:08,019 --> 01:00:09,619 to meet somebody? I'm like, well, you can 1722 01:00:09,619 --> 01:00:11,380 go back to 2012 and start a sex 1723 01:00:11,380 --> 01:00:13,059 blog. That seemed to work for some of 1724 01:00:13,059 --> 01:00:15,300 us. And I mean, not just me. I 1725 01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:18,420 know several people who met short term and 1726 01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:19,319 long term partners 1727 01:00:19,619 --> 01:00:22,454 through the comment section of sex blogs. Yeah. 1728 01:00:24,034 --> 01:00:26,514 And so, you know, but we started out 1729 01:00:26,514 --> 01:00:27,255 with banter. 1730 01:00:27,714 --> 01:00:30,514 Like, he was posting silly shit on his 1731 01:00:30,514 --> 01:00:32,195 blog, and I was cracking up at a 1732 01:00:32,195 --> 01:00:33,554 time when I was bleeding all over the 1733 01:00:33,554 --> 01:00:35,489 pages of my sex blog because I had 1734 01:00:35,489 --> 01:00:37,650 my first power exchange and my first power 1735 01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:38,710 exchange breakup. 1736 01:00:41,329 --> 01:00:43,829 And so he was being kind and sweet 1737 01:00:43,889 --> 01:00:45,889 without coming across as creepy. And I do 1738 01:00:45,889 --> 01:00:47,190 not know how to tell somebody 1739 01:00:47,650 --> 01:00:49,329 how to do or not do that. It 1740 01:00:49,329 --> 01:00:50,704 is a vibe. Okay? 1741 01:00:51,164 --> 01:00:53,805 I get a vibe when somebody I'm thinking 1742 01:00:53,805 --> 01:00:55,164 if I saw you in person, I would 1743 01:00:55,164 --> 01:00:57,325 think you were slimy and please go away 1744 01:00:57,325 --> 01:00:59,805 from me. And the person who feels like 1745 01:00:59,805 --> 01:01:01,025 a genuine person 1746 01:01:01,724 --> 01:01:03,000 on and I don't I don't know how 1747 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,099 to help you differentiate is the vibe. 1748 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,820 But the vibe was good, 1749 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,559 and we started out talking. I contacted him 1750 01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:12,059 first. 1751 01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:13,179 Yeah. 1752 01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:15,239 I never do shit. To this day, I 1753 01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:16,619 never do shit like that. 1754 01:01:17,765 --> 01:01:19,945 And it was a friendship thing. You know? 1755 01:01:20,324 --> 01:01:22,324 Yeah. It was an understanding we were both 1756 01:01:22,324 --> 01:01:25,065 dom subs. Sure. But he knew 1757 01:01:25,364 --> 01:01:26,724 what I was going through because I was 1758 01:01:26,724 --> 01:01:28,485 writing about it. And I knew I was 1759 01:01:28,485 --> 01:01:30,805 not interested in a relationship, but I was 1760 01:01:30,805 --> 01:01:32,485 really drawn to him because he was a 1761 01:01:32,485 --> 01:01:34,800 cool dude who who did funny shit on 1762 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,559 the Internet and talked to me like I 1763 01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:37,380 was a person 1764 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,860 and not a potential sex object. 1765 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,220 It makes a difference. I don't know. 1766 01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:45,920 But yeah. It was friendship first. Yeah. It 1767 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,079 was non sexual power exchange. Just can you 1768 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:49,534 please help me with this thing? 1769 01:01:50,474 --> 01:01:52,554 And it then it grew from there. Because, 1770 01:01:52,554 --> 01:01:53,994 again, go back to my own I do 1771 01:01:53,994 --> 01:01:54,974 take my own advice. 1772 01:01:55,355 --> 01:01:57,275 We did this nonsexual power exchange, and he 1773 01:01:57,275 --> 01:01:59,135 continued to be who he had been 1774 01:01:59,675 --> 01:02:03,019 before we tried power exchange. Mhmm. He earned 1775 01:02:03,019 --> 01:02:04,320 my trust. He 1776 01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:05,840 explained himself. 1777 01:02:06,380 --> 01:02:09,280 He was the first adult human I'd ever 1778 01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:10,000 witnessed 1779 01:02:11,260 --> 01:02:13,579 give clear communication and say the thing he 1780 01:02:13,579 --> 01:02:14,239 was thinking. 1781 01:02:14,585 --> 01:02:16,984 I had not had not in a healthy 1782 01:02:16,984 --> 01:02:18,984 way. I had unhealthy ways of people telling 1783 01:02:18,984 --> 01:02:20,264 me what they were thinking and thank you 1784 01:02:20,264 --> 01:02:21,724 for the trauma. But 1785 01:02:22,025 --> 01:02:24,585 JB was like, let me explain myself to 1786 01:02:24,585 --> 01:02:26,585 you. Here's what I like. Here's what I 1787 01:02:26,585 --> 01:02:28,204 don't. Here's what we're gonna do. 1788 01:02:28,904 --> 01:02:29,404 And 1789 01:02:29,944 --> 01:02:31,650 I went, okay. I like this because I 1790 01:02:31,650 --> 01:02:32,710 already like the vibe. 1791 01:02:33,329 --> 01:02:35,329 And so it it grew from there. And 1792 01:02:35,329 --> 01:02:36,949 when Mhmm. As long distance, we 1793 01:02:37,329 --> 01:02:39,030 added visits to it. And our 1794 01:02:39,409 --> 01:02:42,210 long distance for us was highly sexual. We 1795 01:02:42,210 --> 01:02:44,289 were way more sexual in our power exchange 1796 01:02:44,289 --> 01:02:45,775 while while we were long distance than we 1797 01:02:45,775 --> 01:02:48,494 have been since Yeah. Being living together. Yeah. 1798 01:02:48,494 --> 01:02:50,755 And that's eleven years. We moved in together 1799 01:02:51,054 --> 01:02:52,114 June 2014. 1800 01:02:53,695 --> 01:02:55,855 And we had some sexy fun times in 1801 01:02:55,855 --> 01:02:56,940 the beginning. We had a lot 1802 01:02:57,900 --> 01:02:59,519 more energy eleven years ago. Yeah. 1803 01:03:03,099 --> 01:03:05,099 But the the day to day life of 1804 01:03:05,099 --> 01:03:07,659 it, it became less it's way less focused 1805 01:03:07,659 --> 01:03:09,500 on sex. Like, sex for us is kinky 1806 01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:11,119 sex, but our fuckery 1807 01:03:11,420 --> 01:03:13,625 almost never has sex involved. We'll do impact 1808 01:03:13,625 --> 01:03:15,065 scenes. We'll do this scene, that scene, and 1809 01:03:15,065 --> 01:03:16,664 and no sex is involved at all. Right. 1810 01:03:16,664 --> 01:03:18,204 But long distance for us, 1811 01:03:18,664 --> 01:03:19,244 so much 1812 01:03:19,784 --> 01:03:20,844 so much sex. 1813 01:03:23,465 --> 01:03:25,224 I wish I could give good advice for 1814 01:03:25,224 --> 01:03:27,130 people who are in nonsexual park exchange long 1815 01:03:27,130 --> 01:03:28,969 distance. I think you just play with your 1816 01:03:28,969 --> 01:03:30,570 dynamic like what kind of sub are you, 1817 01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:31,710 what kind of dom are you. 1818 01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:34,409 It's a lot of talking. Yeah. Whether you're 1819 01:03:34,409 --> 01:03:36,349 verbalizing it or you're typing it 1820 01:03:36,809 --> 01:03:39,210 or whatever. It's a lot of communication and 1821 01:03:39,210 --> 01:03:40,670 it's a lot of imagination. 1822 01:03:41,344 --> 01:03:44,244 JB could spin up via text, via email, 1823 01:03:44,385 --> 01:03:46,464 did not matter, could spin up a whole 1824 01:03:46,464 --> 01:03:48,144 fantasy for me of what he was gonna 1825 01:03:48,144 --> 01:03:49,344 do to me and what he wished he 1826 01:03:49,344 --> 01:03:50,964 could do to me. And 1827 01:03:51,744 --> 01:03:53,444 that worked too, you know. 1828 01:03:54,619 --> 01:03:57,260 We had whole fantasy kinks. Now thankfully, he 1829 01:03:57,260 --> 01:03:58,700 learned real quick. I don't dirty talk. I 1830 01:03:58,700 --> 01:04:00,059 don't know what I'm doing. I feel very 1831 01:04:00,059 --> 01:04:02,140 awkward. What? I don't what am I supposed 1832 01:04:02,300 --> 01:04:03,739 I don't know. I don't know. I don't 1833 01:04:03,739 --> 01:04:05,660 know what I'm supposed to say. And so 1834 01:04:05,660 --> 01:04:08,300 then I freeze. So he was very okay 1835 01:04:08,300 --> 01:04:10,894 with spinning up the conversation via text and 1836 01:04:10,894 --> 01:04:11,554 me going, 1837 01:04:13,534 --> 01:04:15,614 or I didn't speak quite an emoji, then 1838 01:04:15,614 --> 01:04:17,534 we didn't have quite as many emojis even 1839 01:04:17,534 --> 01:04:18,735 in 2013 1840 01:04:18,735 --> 01:04:20,974 as we do now. But if an emoji 1841 01:04:20,974 --> 01:04:23,159 could fit, I would and he would just 1842 01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:24,780 keep going. Thank god. 1843 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,579 You know, I've always felt kind of lucky 1844 01:04:29,719 --> 01:04:31,420 in that to to not 1845 01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:34,039 not be comfortable with, not like, not do 1846 01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:35,500 dirty talk. I just can't. 1847 01:04:37,114 --> 01:04:38,875 And I've I've always been felt like I 1848 01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:40,474 was lucky to be the submissive because you 1849 01:04:40,474 --> 01:04:42,394 could just take the reins and say the 1850 01:04:42,394 --> 01:04:44,155 shit, and I just had to kind of 1851 01:04:44,155 --> 01:04:46,094 respond to let you know I was engaged 1852 01:04:46,155 --> 01:04:47,835 with you know, I was paying attention. I 1853 01:04:47,835 --> 01:04:49,514 was into it. Oh, man. But, like, as 1854 01:04:49,514 --> 01:04:50,094 a submissive, 1855 01:04:50,809 --> 01:04:52,889 sometimes there's no fucking expectation that you say 1856 01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:53,949 a goddamn word. 1857 01:04:54,489 --> 01:04:56,010 And I know you might think I find 1858 01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:58,650 that, difficult, but not in those moments. I 1859 01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:00,170 was grateful. I was like, nope. I'm I 1860 01:05:00,170 --> 01:05:01,710 don't even have to say anything. 1861 01:05:02,090 --> 01:05:04,409 I'm I'm needed here, but I'm not needed 1862 01:05:04,409 --> 01:05:05,630 here, if you know what I mean. 1863 01:05:06,704 --> 01:05:07,445 So, yeah, 1864 01:05:08,545 --> 01:05:10,864 it's the there was a lot of sexual 1865 01:05:10,864 --> 01:05:12,545 stuff. Once we decided we were gonna move 1866 01:05:12,545 --> 01:05:14,224 in together and we mapped out a plan, 1867 01:05:14,224 --> 01:05:15,664 the first plan was he was gonna move 1868 01:05:15,664 --> 01:05:17,184 up there because I didn't wanna have to, 1869 01:05:17,184 --> 01:05:18,565 like, uproot the kids. 1870 01:05:19,025 --> 01:05:20,670 And then we realized we could not make 1871 01:05:20,670 --> 01:05:22,989 that work. Like, everything we tried, nothing worked. 1872 01:05:22,989 --> 01:05:24,909 Yeah. You could not find a job with 1873 01:05:24,909 --> 01:05:26,210 them. So frustrating. 1874 01:05:27,789 --> 01:05:30,030 And so then we started making plans for 1875 01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:31,469 me and the kids to move down to 1876 01:05:31,469 --> 01:05:33,364 the Tampa Bay area, and everything got easier 1877 01:05:33,364 --> 01:05:34,724 once we went that direction. It was like, 1878 01:05:34,724 --> 01:05:36,085 that was the direction we were supposed to 1879 01:05:36,085 --> 01:05:36,585 go. 1880 01:05:38,085 --> 01:05:40,585 And then there was more task oriented stuff 1881 01:05:40,804 --> 01:05:43,045 because we were we were already figuring out 1882 01:05:43,045 --> 01:05:46,260 how we divide labor between us anyway, but 1883 01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:48,099 I you know, JB could go, hey. I'm 1884 01:05:48,099 --> 01:05:49,539 gonna need you to do blah, and I 1885 01:05:49,539 --> 01:05:51,059 would go, okay. And then there I was 1886 01:05:51,059 --> 01:05:53,460 being all submissive. Right? Yes. I was helping 1887 01:05:53,460 --> 01:05:56,099 to plan our own future. Sure. But the 1888 01:05:56,099 --> 01:05:57,860 mindset was like, I'm doing this for my 1889 01:05:57,860 --> 01:05:58,920 daddy. You know? 1890 01:06:01,565 --> 01:06:03,424 But it's long distance. 1891 01:06:04,045 --> 01:06:04,784 Get ready 1892 01:06:05,324 --> 01:06:08,144 in whatever way you communicate best to communicate 1893 01:06:08,684 --> 01:06:09,664 a fuck ton. 1894 01:06:10,125 --> 01:06:10,625 Imagination 1895 01:06:11,085 --> 01:06:13,984 kinda stuff, the fantasy stuff, and also the 1896 01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:15,910 how was your day, what are you doing, 1897 01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:17,510 what what does life look like for you 1898 01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:18,010 today, 1899 01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:21,050 and whatever your power exchange ends up being. 1900 01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:22,949 You know? I want you to do this 1901 01:06:22,949 --> 01:06:24,550 thing every day for me. That was his 1902 01:06:24,550 --> 01:06:26,789 thing. Every morning, he would pick my panties. 1903 01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:29,030 Every morning, my before I got dressed for 1904 01:06:29,030 --> 01:06:30,344 work, I had to send him a picture 1905 01:06:30,344 --> 01:06:31,864 of me wearing those panties. I had a 1906 01:06:31,864 --> 01:06:33,085 great mirror closet 1907 01:06:33,465 --> 01:06:35,164 closet with a mirror door, 1908 01:06:35,465 --> 01:06:37,625 full length, really wide. I could get some 1909 01:06:37,625 --> 01:06:39,625 great angles. I should have been taking more 1910 01:06:39,625 --> 01:06:40,824 pictures then. But I 1911 01:06:42,025 --> 01:06:44,445 anybody who knows me from all the 1912 01:06:44,889 --> 01:06:46,809 booty pics I used to post on Instagram, 1913 01:06:46,809 --> 01:06:48,989 me and my underwear, that's where that started 1914 01:06:49,449 --> 01:06:50,510 doing it for JV. 1915 01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:53,849 I don't have good lighting or good mirrors 1916 01:06:53,849 --> 01:06:55,369 anymore, and I don't like how the pictures 1917 01:06:55,369 --> 01:06:56,750 come out, so I don't do it anymore. 1918 01:06:57,050 --> 01:06:59,224 Also I barely wear underwear. So whatever whatever. 1919 01:07:01,204 --> 01:07:02,904 But, yeah, I mean, it just it developed 1920 01:07:02,964 --> 01:07:05,385 over time. And wherever JB could take control 1921 01:07:05,444 --> 01:07:07,844 that made sense Yeah. We negotiate it and 1922 01:07:07,844 --> 01:07:10,085 I'd let him. Wherever I'm a service that 1923 01:07:10,085 --> 01:07:11,605 I find it. I think I think service 1924 01:07:11,605 --> 01:07:13,170 that's have it easier because I could be 1925 01:07:13,170 --> 01:07:14,769 like, I'll do that for you and I'm 1926 01:07:14,769 --> 01:07:16,550 in my submissive mindset. 1927 01:07:17,089 --> 01:07:18,769 But I would do I would take on 1928 01:07:18,769 --> 01:07:21,829 as many tasks as I could for him. 1929 01:07:22,369 --> 01:07:23,969 You know, long distance was harder. There's a 1930 01:07:23,969 --> 01:07:25,250 lot more research. I think once I did 1931 01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:26,710 call your dentist for you. 1932 01:07:28,695 --> 01:07:31,195 I think you're right. Yeah. I did. Yeah. 1933 01:07:32,855 --> 01:07:33,974 That's when I had a job where I 1934 01:07:33,974 --> 01:07:35,015 had to talk on the phone, so it 1935 01:07:35,015 --> 01:07:36,695 was no stretch for me to pick up 1936 01:07:36,695 --> 01:07:39,255 a phone and call a random number and, 1937 01:07:39,255 --> 01:07:40,474 like, just talk to somebody. 1938 01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:43,390 But, you know, that's how that's how we 1939 01:07:43,390 --> 01:07:45,150 did it. Mhmm. And it was little by 1940 01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:48,190 little over time adding more and more, and 1941 01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:50,269 at some point deciding we don't wanna be 1942 01:07:50,269 --> 01:07:51,869 apart anymore. We don't want this to be 1943 01:07:51,869 --> 01:07:54,025 visits every, like, six to eight weeks. We 1944 01:07:54,025 --> 01:07:56,445 wanna be together every day. Mhmm. 1945 01:07:56,985 --> 01:07:57,644 And then 1946 01:07:58,105 --> 01:07:58,764 we started 1947 01:07:59,224 --> 01:08:00,905 mapping out life of what that would look 1948 01:08:00,905 --> 01:08:02,264 like and how we were gonna get there. 1949 01:08:02,264 --> 01:08:04,344 Excuse me. And I think that's that is 1950 01:08:04,344 --> 01:08:05,644 probably when we started 1951 01:08:05,945 --> 01:08:08,550 when our power exchange just became interwoven through 1952 01:08:08,550 --> 01:08:09,289 the relationship. 1953 01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:11,930 Because everything we did just had 1954 01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:12,809 the 1955 01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:13,930 the 1956 01:08:15,269 --> 01:08:17,609 flavor of power exchange. Mhmm. Because 1957 01:08:17,989 --> 01:08:20,204 you've been the decider from day one. If 1958 01:08:20,204 --> 01:08:22,465 there's a decision to be made, I'm gonna 1959 01:08:22,524 --> 01:08:23,585 defer to you. 1960 01:08:24,045 --> 01:08:25,685 And so even in the move, I would 1961 01:08:25,805 --> 01:08:27,405 I knew what I wanted and needed and 1962 01:08:27,405 --> 01:08:29,024 required, like, as a parent, 1963 01:08:29,564 --> 01:08:31,324 but I was still gonna bring him the 1964 01:08:31,324 --> 01:08:33,005 options and be like, what do you wanna 1965 01:08:33,005 --> 01:08:34,949 do, daddy? And that's where he was in 1966 01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:36,890 his dominant self a lot. 1967 01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:39,050 Because once we got to the 1968 01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:41,590 stress of, like, picking up lives and moving 1969 01:08:41,590 --> 01:08:42,650 and all of that stuff, 1970 01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:44,650 we were still sexual, but 1971 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:47,449 it does put a damper on us. So, 1972 01:08:50,185 --> 01:08:51,085 yeah, that's 1973 01:08:52,505 --> 01:08:54,045 that's how we did that. 1974 01:08:56,024 --> 01:08:57,864 And I'm you know, I know it's the 1975 01:08:57,864 --> 01:08:59,304 boring answer. I know it can be the 1976 01:08:59,304 --> 01:09:01,484 very dissatisfying answer. People, 1977 01:09:01,944 --> 01:09:03,960 like, kinda were like, ugh. I just want 1978 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,579 this to have happened ten minutes ago. 1979 01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:07,960 Goddamn. Talk to somebody that you vibe with, 1980 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,359 that you like talking to. Right? Like, whether 1981 01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,079 that's through DMs or just on social or 1982 01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:14,219 in person, like, 1983 01:09:14,814 --> 01:09:16,895 and you you're not always gonna know right 1984 01:09:16,895 --> 01:09:18,814 away if the vibe is right. Like, I've 1985 01:09:18,814 --> 01:09:20,895 come across people and because of my head 1986 01:09:20,895 --> 01:09:22,435 space, because of their head space, 1987 01:09:23,055 --> 01:09:25,135 I didn't I didn't know I didn't think 1988 01:09:25,135 --> 01:09:26,850 that was a bad vibe. Those are different. 1989 01:09:26,850 --> 01:09:28,609 If I get a bad vibe, you very 1990 01:09:28,609 --> 01:09:30,609 rarely get a second chance with me. But 1991 01:09:30,609 --> 01:09:32,210 there was no vibe, and so I didn't 1992 01:09:32,210 --> 01:09:33,510 know. And it was polite conversation. 1993 01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:35,729 And then the next time I came across 1994 01:09:35,729 --> 01:09:37,250 them, I was in a different headspace. They 1995 01:09:37,250 --> 01:09:39,010 were in a different whatever. And then you 1996 01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:40,289 could tell if the vibe was good. If 1997 01:09:40,289 --> 01:09:42,795 the vibe is good, just keep chatting. Like, 1998 01:09:42,795 --> 01:09:45,435 again, without the, this is gonna be my 1999 01:09:45,435 --> 01:09:47,835 next kinky partner. Like, you don't know. You 2000 01:09:47,835 --> 01:09:48,574 don't know. 2001 01:09:49,195 --> 01:09:50,795 You know? If you start making those plans 2002 01:09:50,795 --> 01:09:52,715 after the first conversation, but by the fourth 2003 01:09:52,715 --> 01:09:55,135 conversation, you're like, oh my god. This person, 2004 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,280 do I need to call somebody on this 2005 01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,960 part? You know what I mean? Like, the 2006 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:01,180 vibe is all wrong. 2007 01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,260 You know? Now there's disappointment or you've you're 2008 01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:08,055 now having to extricate yourself out of situations 2009 01:10:08,055 --> 01:10:09,735 that you would never put yourself in if 2010 01:10:09,735 --> 01:10:11,015 you had known what they were like. You 2011 01:10:11,015 --> 01:10:12,555 know what I mean? Just just 2012 01:10:13,175 --> 01:10:15,335 just fucking be friends with folks. Like, get 2013 01:10:15,335 --> 01:10:17,494 to know just talk to them. I say 2014 01:10:17,494 --> 01:10:19,195 that as somebody doesn't wanna talk to anybody. 2015 01:10:19,735 --> 01:10:21,095 I'm telling you, if I could tell you 2016 01:10:21,095 --> 01:10:22,430 how to get in a time machine and 2017 01:10:22,430 --> 01:10:24,270 go back to 2012 and start a sex 2018 01:10:24,270 --> 01:10:24,770 blog 2019 01:10:25,310 --> 01:10:27,630 when we were when people still commented on 2020 01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:28,130 blogs, 2021 01:10:29,070 --> 01:10:31,229 I did figure out that part of my 2022 01:10:31,229 --> 01:10:33,810 blogging thing was the dopamine rush of 2023 01:10:34,765 --> 01:10:37,085 people commenting Mhmm. When it was positive. When 2024 01:10:37,085 --> 01:10:37,905 it was positive. 2025 01:10:38,445 --> 01:10:40,364 And I don't get that from blogging anymore. 2026 01:10:40,364 --> 01:10:42,925 Very few people comment. And so now for 2027 01:10:42,925 --> 01:10:44,765 different reasons, but one of those reasons is 2028 01:10:45,005 --> 01:10:47,289 Mhmm. It's not as interesting to me if 2029 01:10:47,289 --> 01:10:48,430 I'm always talking 2030 01:10:49,730 --> 01:10:50,230 to 2031 01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:53,449 me. But, yeah, I exit it in live 2032 01:10:53,449 --> 01:10:55,229 chat. Talk to people without expectations. 2033 01:10:55,530 --> 01:10:57,850 Yeah. This idea is to just are they 2034 01:10:57,850 --> 01:10:59,530 an interesting human that I would like to 2035 01:10:59,530 --> 01:11:01,550 be around again at the next month? Or 2036 01:11:02,015 --> 01:11:04,034 to be around them because they're an interesting 2037 01:11:04,095 --> 01:11:07,155 human, not because they're your soulmate in disguise 2038 01:11:07,375 --> 01:11:08,595 and, you know, 2039 01:11:09,295 --> 01:11:10,975 if you get in there real fast, you'll 2040 01:11:10,975 --> 01:11:11,875 figure like, 2041 01:11:13,614 --> 01:11:15,935 it's a very dissatisfying answer. I know. I 2042 01:11:15,935 --> 01:11:17,155 know. I know. 2043 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,699 And I think that 2044 01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:20,679 the the dynamic shifts a little bit if 2045 01:11:20,679 --> 01:11:21,960 where you're at is, let's say, a play 2046 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:22,460 party 2047 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,399 or a dungeon where there's a heightened, like, 2048 01:11:25,399 --> 01:11:27,000 half these people are naked and there's a 2049 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,895 lot of screaming and crying consensually. And, like, 2050 01:11:29,895 --> 01:11:32,314 that's a different vibe, and you might be 2051 01:11:32,614 --> 01:11:33,914 more in your 2052 01:11:35,095 --> 01:11:37,255 play mode than in your Mhmm. Get to 2053 01:11:37,255 --> 01:11:39,734 know you mode. And, you know, there's nothing 2054 01:11:39,734 --> 01:11:42,155 wrong with starting there, but, you know, 2055 01:11:42,854 --> 01:11:44,610 because I I Gotta start somewhere. I I 2056 01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:46,689 get that. Like, that's a whole, like, oh, 2057 01:11:46,689 --> 01:11:49,489 I'm gonna watch this person quail on that 2058 01:11:49,489 --> 01:11:51,810 person, and I'm feeling all kinds of things 2059 01:11:51,810 --> 01:11:53,170 about that. And, oh, they're gonna come talk 2060 01:11:53,170 --> 01:11:53,970 to me now. Like, that's 2061 01:11:54,930 --> 01:11:56,689 but even then, you're talking to them because 2062 01:11:56,689 --> 01:11:57,975 you think they're interesting, or you're talking to 2063 01:11:57,975 --> 01:11:59,255 them because you think they were good at 2064 01:11:59,255 --> 01:12:00,635 whatever you saw them do. 2065 01:12:01,015 --> 01:12:03,095 No expectation that you're gonna be their next 2066 01:12:03,095 --> 01:12:04,875 one. You know what I mean? I just 2067 01:12:07,015 --> 01:12:07,515 anyway. 2068 01:12:09,015 --> 01:12:10,074 Anyway. Anyhoo. 2069 01:12:10,614 --> 01:12:12,715 Those were all the questions. Okay. 2070 01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:15,520 Thank y'all for those of you who submitted 2071 01:12:15,899 --> 01:12:18,479 them. They're really interesting. Good questions. Good questions. 2072 01:12:19,099 --> 01:12:20,859 As usual with a q and a, my 2073 01:12:20,859 --> 01:12:21,679 throat hurts. 2074 01:12:22,699 --> 01:12:23,979 I'm trying to get back to it. I 2075 01:12:23,979 --> 01:12:25,979 do think that was the last one. Pretty 2076 01:12:25,979 --> 01:12:26,479 positive. 2077 01:12:28,675 --> 01:12:30,774 Yeah. That was it. Mhmm. 2078 01:12:33,875 --> 01:12:36,034 That's all we got. Okay. So are we, 2079 01:12:36,595 --> 01:12:38,595 good? Well, we will go into a bonus 2080 01:12:38,595 --> 01:12:41,015 section. Yes. I guess we are. Okay. Okay. 2081 01:12:41,235 --> 01:12:43,155 Keep it kinky, y'all. We'll see you next 2082 01:12:43,155 --> 01:12:45,020 week at 3PM 2083 01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:45,520 Eastern. 2084 01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:57,260 Dada. Yes, baby girl. Can we talk to 2085 01:12:57,260 --> 01:12:58,399 the crickets? Sure. 2086 01:12:59,465 --> 01:13:00,364 Podcast listeners 2087 01:13:00,744 --> 01:13:01,724 at 3PM 2088 01:13:01,944 --> 01:13:03,625 is meaningless to you if you only listen. 2089 01:13:03,625 --> 01:13:05,465 It's still Friday for y'all, but we are 2090 01:13:05,465 --> 01:13:08,125 changing our livestream time. So just a reminder, 2091 01:13:08,344 --> 01:13:10,024 3PM. Do you wanna know what I've been 2092 01:13:10,024 --> 01:13:11,625 wanting to say every time I said 3PM? 2093 01:13:11,625 --> 01:13:13,800 What? I know we're in Eastern. Been in 2094 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,159 Eastern all this time. My brain keeps on 2095 01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:17,020 and say Central. 2096 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,640 I don't know why. I've not lived in 2097 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,020 Central time zone since 2098 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:22,300 2014. 2099 01:13:23,159 --> 01:13:23,659 True. 2100 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,475 But for like two days, every time I've 2101 01:13:26,475 --> 01:13:29,215 thought of a time, my brain is like, 2102 01:13:29,435 --> 01:13:29,935 central. 2103 01:13:30,554 --> 01:13:31,774 No. Not central. 2104 01:13:32,475 --> 01:13:34,795 That is how we start mass confusion with 2105 01:13:34,795 --> 01:13:35,295 everybody. 2106 01:13:35,755 --> 01:13:37,594 I gotta at least keep the time zone 2107 01:13:37,594 --> 01:13:38,094 straight. 2108 01:13:41,010 --> 01:13:41,510 So 2109 01:13:42,289 --> 01:13:43,969 what you got for the bonus section? Are 2110 01:13:43,969 --> 01:13:46,229 you ready to talk about your tummy? Yeah. 2111 01:13:47,250 --> 01:13:47,750 Yeah. 2112 01:13:48,849 --> 01:13:49,349 Yeah. 2113 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,324 We're waiting for the the office call so 2114 01:13:53,324 --> 01:13:55,085 he can go get a CT scan. Right. 2115 01:13:55,085 --> 01:13:56,204 We've been waiting for a day and a 2116 01:13:56,204 --> 01:13:58,604 half. The for those of you remember, a 2117 01:13:58,604 --> 01:13:59,664 month or so back, 2118 01:14:00,685 --> 01:14:01,985 I had some tests done. 2119 01:14:03,324 --> 01:14:04,625 Month feeling so hot. 2120 01:14:05,485 --> 01:14:07,645 First thing they said was heart. Mhmm. They 2121 01:14:07,645 --> 01:14:09,719 wanted to rule that out, and they did. 2122 01:14:09,779 --> 01:14:10,279 Everything 2123 01:14:11,060 --> 01:14:11,560 cardiovascular, 2124 01:14:12,099 --> 01:14:13,159 all that is good. 2125 01:14:13,619 --> 01:14:15,300 I can't wait till we can stop paying 2126 01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:17,319 on the payment plan for it. Right. Yeah. 2127 01:14:17,939 --> 01:14:18,439 Yeah. 2128 01:14:19,060 --> 01:14:21,800 And they put me on medication for GERD, 2129 01:14:22,340 --> 01:14:24,314 is it called? G e r d. I 2130 01:14:24,314 --> 01:14:25,795 don't remember what all the letters stand for. 2131 01:14:25,914 --> 01:14:26,414 Either. 2132 01:14:27,034 --> 01:14:29,274 And and it did help Mhmm. For a 2133 01:14:29,274 --> 01:14:29,774 while 2134 01:14:30,234 --> 01:14:32,015 until it stopped helping. 2135 01:14:32,395 --> 01:14:32,895 Mhmm. 2136 01:14:33,354 --> 01:14:33,854 So, 2137 01:14:34,475 --> 01:14:36,814 day before yesterday, it was really bad. 2138 01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:40,250 I told Kayla, 2139 01:14:41,109 --> 01:14:42,469 I need to see a doctor. I'm willing 2140 01:14:42,469 --> 01:14:44,409 to see a doctor now. Yeah. 2141 01:14:44,789 --> 01:14:46,489 So I called for him. Right. 2142 01:14:46,949 --> 01:14:48,250 And, went in, 2143 01:14:49,029 --> 01:14:51,109 and we're talking back and forth. And, 2144 01:14:52,585 --> 01:14:54,664 then they started do you still have your 2145 01:14:54,664 --> 01:14:55,164 gallbladder? 2146 01:14:56,984 --> 01:14:59,564 You. Mhmm. For now at least. Yeah. 2147 01:15:00,184 --> 01:15:02,444 And, you know, possible ulcer. 2148 01:15:03,145 --> 01:15:05,564 And so, you know, they wanna do a 2149 01:15:06,679 --> 01:15:07,179 abdomen 2150 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,020 ish CT scan. Pelvis and abdomen. Yeah. CT. 2151 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:11,979 And, 2152 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:14,300 kind of, 2153 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,800 in limbo, was supposed to waiting for the 2154 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,679 call today. Yeah. Our doctor wanted him to 2155 01:15:20,679 --> 01:15:23,395 the best of possibility to do it Yesterday. 2156 01:15:23,715 --> 01:15:25,074 The day of the appointment, which was the 2157 01:15:25,074 --> 01:15:26,055 day before recording. 2158 01:15:26,435 --> 01:15:26,914 They 2159 01:15:27,475 --> 01:15:29,875 thankfully, our doctor's office is connected to a 2160 01:15:29,875 --> 01:15:31,314 lab that's all in house. It's a medical 2161 01:15:31,314 --> 01:15:32,135 center. Mhmm. 2162 01:15:32,675 --> 01:15:34,435 So they send us down the hallway for 2163 01:15:34,435 --> 01:15:35,814 him to get some lab work. 2164 01:15:36,770 --> 01:15:38,369 I won't tell the other part, but that 2165 01:15:38,369 --> 01:15:40,289 part is cute if you wanna share it. 2166 01:15:40,289 --> 01:15:40,949 Yeah. No. 2167 01:15:41,810 --> 01:15:42,310 Damn. 2168 01:15:42,770 --> 01:15:45,110 Oh, it's so adorable, but I I won't. 2169 01:15:45,170 --> 01:15:45,670 Anyway 2170 01:15:46,050 --> 01:15:47,970 Thank you. Lab work. And so then we're 2171 01:15:47,970 --> 01:15:50,229 waiting for the results because they had explained 2172 01:15:50,885 --> 01:15:52,345 we're gonna have to get authorization 2173 01:15:52,965 --> 01:15:55,604 for the CT scan, meaning from insurance. Yeah. 2174 01:15:55,604 --> 01:15:58,244 And they won't give authorization till lab results 2175 01:15:58,244 --> 01:16:00,645 are in. And so our doctor took this 2176 01:16:00,645 --> 01:16:03,525 seriously enough that she was rushing everything. Everything 2177 01:16:03,525 --> 01:16:04,345 was stat. 2178 01:16:04,729 --> 01:16:06,489 So we're like, okay. And we're sitting in 2179 01:16:06,489 --> 01:16:08,170 limbo. We're at the office waiting for somebody 2180 01:16:08,170 --> 01:16:09,770 to come say, okay. We're gonna schedule your 2181 01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:11,070 CT scan for 2182 01:16:11,610 --> 01:16:12,670 or okay. 2183 01:16:13,369 --> 01:16:16,829 Whatever. Whatever. Nobody comes. Nobody comes. Finally, the 2184 01:16:17,965 --> 01:16:20,284 assistant to the doctor comes. It's like, okay. 2185 01:16:20,284 --> 01:16:22,524 We're gonna let you go home because nothing's 2186 01:16:22,524 --> 01:16:24,364 happening as quickly as we wanted it to. 2187 01:16:24,364 --> 01:16:26,284 Right. Here's what you need to prep for 2188 01:16:26,284 --> 01:16:29,005 the CT. Mhmm. They're gonna call you and 2189 01:16:29,005 --> 01:16:30,890 give you a time to come in. We're 2190 01:16:30,890 --> 01:16:32,350 gonna try and make it for 2191 01:16:32,890 --> 01:16:35,449 Wednesday, the day we're recording. I did not 2192 01:16:35,449 --> 01:16:37,550 call you. I I spent my whole day 2193 01:16:37,850 --> 01:16:39,149 pretty much on hold 2194 01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:42,510 waiting for the phone call. 2195 01:16:43,805 --> 01:16:45,965 And I say on hold, I I wasn't 2196 01:16:45,965 --> 01:16:48,045 doing nothing, but I was You're still in 2197 01:16:48,045 --> 01:16:50,445 that place of, like, anticipate I was doing 2198 01:16:50,445 --> 01:16:52,045 little things that I could just drop in 2199 01:16:52,045 --> 01:16:53,185 a Right. Exactly. 2200 01:16:54,125 --> 01:16:54,625 And, 2201 01:16:56,180 --> 01:16:57,860 so, yeah, it didn't happen. And, 2202 01:16:58,579 --> 01:17:00,739 you know, yeah, kinda waiting on the insurance 2203 01:17:00,739 --> 01:17:04,579 now, it seems. Probably. Yeah. Knowing insurance companies. 2204 01:17:04,579 --> 01:17:06,820 Mhmm. Mhmm. Because it's often a, well, did 2205 01:17:06,820 --> 01:17:08,984 you do all these other 10,000,000 things 2206 01:17:09,385 --> 01:17:11,225 that aren't as effective as this one test 2207 01:17:11,225 --> 01:17:12,984 the doctor wants to do? But there's also 2208 01:17:12,984 --> 01:17:16,024 human error. The our doctor was on it, 2209 01:17:16,024 --> 01:17:17,864 and and everybody in her office was on 2210 01:17:17,864 --> 01:17:19,164 it yesterday afternoon. 2211 01:17:19,784 --> 01:17:21,720 But if they weren't still on it because 2212 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,119 they've got patients coming in and they've handed 2213 01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:25,880 it off to whoever does the scheduling of 2214 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,800 the lab, that might have fallen through cracks. 2215 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,720 They might not realize this is because they 2216 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,479 were saying, when you go get your CT 2217 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,015 scan, when you are done with your CT 2218 01:17:33,095 --> 01:17:34,614 scan, which is at another building, you're gonna 2219 01:17:34,614 --> 01:17:36,534 drive back over here. Over here. Yeah. And 2220 01:17:36,534 --> 01:17:38,055 and let them know you're here to see 2221 01:17:38,055 --> 01:17:40,215 the doctor, and you will be seen in 2222 01:17:40,215 --> 01:17:43,175 between whoever whoever. Like, that's how seriously the 2223 01:17:43,175 --> 01:17:45,494 doctor was taking it. Yeah. I don't want 2224 01:17:45,494 --> 01:17:47,569 it to be an insurance problem, but it 2225 01:17:47,569 --> 01:17:49,510 probably is. I won't be surprised. 2226 01:17:50,369 --> 01:17:51,969 Yep. And I'm like, I hope you will 2227 01:17:51,969 --> 01:17:54,050 let us add on to your current payment 2228 01:17:54,050 --> 01:17:56,789 plan. We haven't met our deductible yet. And, 2229 01:17:57,090 --> 01:17:58,849 you know, we still get, like, air quote, 2230 01:17:58,849 --> 01:18:01,670 this big old air quotes discounted prices. 2231 01:18:02,555 --> 01:18:04,715 But a CT scan I know for an 2232 01:18:04,715 --> 01:18:07,595 MRI, they quoted me 3 or $400 with 2233 01:18:07,595 --> 01:18:09,755 our insurance plan. I don't know if a 2234 01:18:09,755 --> 01:18:11,435 CT scan would be less than, same as, 2235 01:18:11,435 --> 01:18:12,975 or more. Yeah. Your echocardiogram 2236 01:18:13,515 --> 01:18:16,555 between both procedures was about $500. 2237 01:18:16,555 --> 01:18:16,890 Yeah. 2238 01:18:17,449 --> 01:18:19,770 Yeah. About $500. Yeah. Maybe 6 no. It 2239 01:18:19,770 --> 01:18:21,390 was about 600. 2240 01:18:22,010 --> 01:18:23,210 It was something. I had to put it 2241 01:18:23,210 --> 01:18:24,890 on a payment plan. Yeah. And, 2242 01:18:26,010 --> 01:18:27,210 yeah. I do have to do the, 2243 01:18:27,930 --> 01:18:28,829 oral contrast. 2244 01:18:29,175 --> 01:18:31,414 Have the bottle sitting in the Pour it 2245 01:18:31,414 --> 01:18:33,354 into Powerade. Yep. Mhmm. 2246 01:18:34,295 --> 01:18:36,155 So, yeah, I will have to do that. 2247 01:18:36,215 --> 01:18:38,155 Yeah. Like, we're we're ready to go. Yep. 2248 01:18:39,255 --> 01:18:41,095 I just want some answers at this point. 2249 01:18:41,095 --> 01:18:43,015 I just wanna know really what the hell 2250 01:18:43,015 --> 01:18:45,219 was happening. I want you to find relief 2251 01:18:45,219 --> 01:18:47,460 and answers. But I think now I'm a 2252 01:18:47,460 --> 01:18:48,119 little bit 2253 01:18:48,579 --> 01:18:51,079 on edge is too strong. Like, it's 2254 01:18:51,460 --> 01:18:53,859 I'm personally fine. And as long as he's 2255 01:18:53,859 --> 01:18:57,060 doing mostly okay, I'm I'm good. But because 2256 01:18:57,060 --> 01:18:59,354 our doctor, who is very level headed, we 2257 01:19:00,234 --> 01:19:01,135 adore her, was 2258 01:19:01,435 --> 01:19:03,914 like, I want this information as fast as 2259 01:19:03,914 --> 01:19:05,215 you can get it to me. 2260 01:19:05,515 --> 01:19:07,055 Now I'm like, oh, wait. 2261 01:19:08,314 --> 01:19:10,475 No. Oh, okay. There she's trying to move 2262 01:19:10,475 --> 01:19:11,375 fast fast. 2263 01:19:12,639 --> 01:19:14,559 Should we be worried? I'm not gonna worry 2264 01:19:14,559 --> 01:19:16,239 until I have something to worry about. But 2265 01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:17,840 should we? Do I need to prep myself 2266 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,760 for worry? Sort of like when you were 2267 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:20,399 because you 2268 01:19:21,119 --> 01:19:22,800 we were seeing whoever could fit you in 2269 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,805 when it first started. Right. And due to 2270 01:19:24,805 --> 01:19:27,125 age and medical history, they were like, heart. 2271 01:19:27,125 --> 01:19:29,284 It's your heart. And I was like, you're 2272 01:19:29,284 --> 01:19:31,524 gonna make my heart stop beating. Stop saying 2273 01:19:31,524 --> 01:19:32,024 that. 2274 01:19:32,805 --> 01:19:34,104 And that was a very 2275 01:19:35,364 --> 01:19:37,765 sort of, like, on edge moment because the 2276 01:19:37,765 --> 01:19:39,539 heart, that's serious. It's like crazy serious. 2277 01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:41,000 But 2278 01:19:41,699 --> 01:19:44,420 yeah. Her her urgency is making me feel 2279 01:19:44,420 --> 01:19:44,920 like 2280 01:19:45,619 --> 01:19:47,939 we need to be urgent about this. I'm 2281 01:19:47,939 --> 01:19:49,060 I'm trying not to, 2282 01:19:49,619 --> 01:19:51,619 No. Read into it too much. I'm just, 2283 01:19:51,619 --> 01:19:52,439 like, you know, 2284 01:19:52,945 --> 01:19:54,465 hopefully, she's thinking, well, you know, this has 2285 01:19:54,465 --> 01:19:56,784 been going on. Let's, you know, kinda push 2286 01:19:56,784 --> 01:19:58,564 this and get it Mhmm. Resolved. 2287 01:19:59,025 --> 01:20:01,104 That's how I'm seeing it. Well, and I 2288 01:20:01,104 --> 01:20:03,685 did think I saw her eyebrows raise 2289 01:20:04,145 --> 01:20:06,100 when you were like, the medication get for 2290 01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:08,739 GERD was working and now it's not. And 2291 01:20:08,739 --> 01:20:10,119 I think that's when she went, 2292 01:20:10,820 --> 01:20:13,320 wait. That's not supposed to happen. Yeah. 2293 01:20:13,940 --> 01:20:14,840 And yeah. 2294 01:20:15,460 --> 01:20:17,460 If she hadn't been so urgent Mhmm. I 2295 01:20:17,460 --> 01:20:18,979 think we'd be like, okay. It sucks. We 2296 01:20:18,979 --> 01:20:20,864 would like some answers. But okay. Yeah. Now 2297 01:20:20,864 --> 01:20:22,545 we're like, who's gonna call? When are they 2298 01:20:22,545 --> 01:20:23,364 gonna call? 2299 01:20:24,864 --> 01:20:26,625 Poor JB is taking his phone with him 2300 01:20:26,625 --> 01:20:28,465 everywhere. And if he has to, like, be 2301 01:20:28,465 --> 01:20:30,225 in the bathroom for anything, he's like, here 2302 01:20:30,225 --> 01:20:31,765 is my phone. Please babysit. 2303 01:20:33,185 --> 01:20:33,765 Mhmm. Yeah. 2304 01:20:34,545 --> 01:20:36,324 Now that's funny to me. 2305 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,359 You waiting on a call from the doctor, 2306 01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:42,359 which would make sense. It is your medical 2307 01:20:42,359 --> 01:20:45,399 situation, your blah blah blah. But I am 2308 01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:46,760 the one who calls to make all the 2309 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,300 appointments. We use, 2310 01:20:48,755 --> 01:20:51,335 the online portal that our office has. 2311 01:20:51,954 --> 01:20:52,694 I send 2312 01:20:53,234 --> 01:20:54,854 all of the written messages. 2313 01:20:55,715 --> 01:20:57,795 I have to make sure because we are 2314 01:20:57,795 --> 01:20:59,154 both in the same portal, but with two 2315 01:20:59,154 --> 01:21:00,960 different logins. I have to make 2316 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,760 sure I'm in I'm logged into the right 2317 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,479 one and that I remember to write his 2318 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,399 name at the end, like, because I'm of 2319 01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:10,079 course, I'm an old lady. I write it 2320 01:21:10,079 --> 01:21:12,560 like it's an email and not just like 2321 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,604 a like, so I don't say, like, dear 2322 01:21:15,604 --> 01:21:17,284 doctor, whatever. I don't do that. But, like, 2323 01:21:17,284 --> 01:21:19,305 we sign it at the end. Thank you, 2324 01:21:20,005 --> 01:21:22,565 comma, name. Mhmm. And there have been a 2325 01:21:22,565 --> 01:21:25,604 couple times I've scared myself going, did I 2326 01:21:25,604 --> 01:21:27,329 put his name for this one? This was 2327 01:21:27,329 --> 01:21:28,070 his account. 2328 01:21:29,090 --> 01:21:31,250 But, yeah, I I have to remind myself 2329 01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:32,369 when we're in there because I'm used to 2330 01:21:32,369 --> 01:21:33,810 calling to go, here are the symptoms. Here's 2331 01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:35,729 what we need. Blah blah blah blah. Or 2332 01:21:35,729 --> 01:21:37,890 when I'm messaging, here are the symptoms. Can 2333 01:21:37,890 --> 01:21:39,329 we get a refill on this prescription? Blah 2334 01:21:39,329 --> 01:21:40,070 blah blah. 2335 01:21:40,474 --> 01:21:42,875 We're in the office. They know us freaking 2336 01:21:42,875 --> 01:21:44,474 frack. They know we come as a a 2337 01:21:44,474 --> 01:21:44,954 pair. We 2338 01:21:45,755 --> 01:21:47,434 you will never see one without the other 2339 01:21:47,434 --> 01:21:48,574 at the doctor's office. 2340 01:21:49,675 --> 01:21:51,755 I have to remember and hold myself back 2341 01:21:51,755 --> 01:21:52,494 from explaining 2342 01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:54,320 his symptoms to the doctor. 2343 01:21:56,140 --> 01:21:57,739 But it's a good thing I'm there because 2344 01:21:57,739 --> 01:21:59,979 he sometimes won't mention some of his symptoms. 2345 01:21:59,979 --> 01:22:02,140 And I'm like, tell her about the nausea. 2346 01:22:02,140 --> 01:22:03,199 Don't forget the nausea. 2347 01:22:05,434 --> 01:22:06,795 I just didn't want her to think I 2348 01:22:06,795 --> 01:22:08,335 was nuts on that one. 2349 01:22:09,514 --> 01:22:11,755 Well, that was not just I didn't think 2350 01:22:11,755 --> 01:22:13,614 you were gonna tell her about your sneeze 2351 01:22:14,554 --> 01:22:15,054 thing. 2352 01:22:15,514 --> 01:22:17,375 Would you like to explain that one? 2353 01:22:18,020 --> 01:22:19,939 You Googled it, so it's a phenomenon other 2354 01:22:19,939 --> 01:22:21,619 people have experienced. It is something that other 2355 01:22:21,619 --> 01:22:23,719 people have experienced. Like, I Googled it, 2356 01:22:25,539 --> 01:22:28,359 and, basically, what happens sometimes in the morning, 2357 01:22:28,979 --> 01:22:30,739 before I eat, I will feel a little 2358 01:22:30,739 --> 01:22:31,239 nausea. 2359 01:22:33,524 --> 01:22:36,164 It's not like, you know, I'm running to 2360 01:22:36,404 --> 01:22:38,805 Right. Somewhere but that sicky feeling. It's that 2361 01:22:38,805 --> 01:22:39,944 it's that feeling. 2362 01:22:40,484 --> 01:22:43,145 Well, it it just kinda sits there, 2363 01:22:44,404 --> 01:22:45,864 and and then I'll sneeze, 2364 01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:49,739 and it's gone. The nausea's gone. The nausea's 2365 01:22:49,739 --> 01:22:52,159 gone. Yeah. The look on her face, 2366 01:22:52,460 --> 01:22:54,560 which was because you could see her, like, 2367 01:22:54,619 --> 01:22:56,859 wheel spinning, like, okay, what mechanism would be 2368 01:22:56,859 --> 01:23:00,284 causing? Right. Is that really happening? I stumped 2369 01:23:00,284 --> 01:23:00,945 the doctor. 2370 01:23:02,204 --> 01:23:04,125 I was like, oh, and I'm looking at 2371 01:23:04,125 --> 01:23:06,125 her. I'm like, is he a medical marvel? 2372 01:23:06,125 --> 01:23:07,425 Is that what we're discovering? 2373 01:23:08,364 --> 01:23:09,805 And that's when I piped up. I said, 2374 01:23:09,805 --> 01:23:11,485 I'm not the only one. I Googled it. 2375 01:23:11,485 --> 01:23:12,065 I started. 2376 01:23:20,590 --> 01:23:22,690 We are a delight wherever we go together. 2377 01:23:22,750 --> 01:23:24,989 Yes. Yes. We are. Thank God for this 2378 01:23:24,989 --> 01:23:26,210 doctor. Right. Thank God. 2379 01:23:28,135 --> 01:23:30,454 So, yeah, that's, that's been that for this 2380 01:23:30,454 --> 01:23:32,695 week. And, you know, you just been kinda 2381 01:23:32,774 --> 01:23:34,695 you you may have been making a trip 2382 01:23:34,695 --> 01:23:36,235 to see the oldest this weekend. 2383 01:23:36,614 --> 01:23:38,954 Have to. Yeah. Oh, that's right. His medication 2384 01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:40,949 I still need to remind myself to go 2385 01:23:40,949 --> 01:23:43,109 pick up his medication from the pharmacy, and 2386 01:23:43,109 --> 01:23:44,949 then I would drive it to him. Which, 2387 01:23:44,949 --> 01:23:46,869 you know what? I can't even complain about 2388 01:23:46,869 --> 01:23:47,609 that because 2389 01:23:48,389 --> 01:23:50,389 now that he has more of a social 2390 01:23:50,389 --> 01:23:51,750 life than he had the first two years 2391 01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:54,255 of college, I never hear from this child. 2392 01:23:55,215 --> 01:23:57,875 Never ever hear from this child. 2393 01:24:00,654 --> 01:24:02,255 Wait. I think I was supposed to have 2394 01:24:02,255 --> 01:24:04,114 this experience when he was 18. 2395 01:24:04,414 --> 01:24:06,335 I got used to, like, hearing from my 2396 01:24:06,335 --> 01:24:07,375 kid. We 2397 01:24:07,854 --> 01:24:09,689 for freshman and sophomore year, he would text 2398 01:24:09,930 --> 01:24:11,609 not every day. We'd go several days without 2399 01:24:11,609 --> 01:24:13,449 text. But if I realized it had been 2400 01:24:13,449 --> 01:24:15,529 several so, like, five to six days without 2401 01:24:15,529 --> 01:24:16,189 a text, 2402 01:24:17,449 --> 01:24:19,449 no fail. By the seventh day he was 2403 01:24:19,449 --> 01:24:22,010 calling me, wanting to talk, mean something, blah 2404 01:24:22,010 --> 01:24:22,670 blah blah, 2405 01:24:23,284 --> 01:24:25,625 I do not hear from that child. And 2406 01:24:26,005 --> 01:24:28,265 I am finally on track to be 2407 01:24:28,645 --> 01:24:30,324 the parent who gets, like, one and two 2408 01:24:30,324 --> 01:24:32,885 word texts. I used to get books. Okay? 2409 01:24:32,885 --> 01:24:35,045 He needed somebody to talk to, and I 2410 01:24:35,045 --> 01:24:35,784 was there. 2411 01:24:36,405 --> 01:24:38,425 Now he's got actual, like, you know, 2412 01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:41,689 Pierce's own age. Goddamn. 2413 01:24:42,069 --> 01:24:44,090 Right. And now I have to, like, experience 2414 01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:47,130 this. Wait. My child does not need me? 2415 01:24:47,189 --> 01:24:47,689 Alright. 2416 01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:50,229 It's a it I was supposed to have 2417 01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:51,609 gone through this two years ago, 2418 01:24:53,829 --> 01:24:56,614 but it's it is weird. It's quiet. Mhmm. 2419 01:24:57,635 --> 01:24:58,114 So 2420 01:24:58,595 --> 01:24:59,095 Yeah. 2421 01:24:59,715 --> 01:25:02,694 Lola's doing good. She's sleeping by my feet. 2422 01:25:04,675 --> 01:25:06,755 Yeah. I heard her call her when she 2423 01:25:06,755 --> 01:25:08,430 shook her head or whatever. Yeah. 2424 01:25:09,390 --> 01:25:11,150 She's she's been doing good. She's, 2425 01:25:12,189 --> 01:25:13,789 Yeah. Knock on wood. It's been quiet with 2426 01:25:13,789 --> 01:25:16,750 the the girls. Mhmm. Onyx has become and 2427 01:25:16,750 --> 01:25:18,590 I say aggressive. I mean it in, like, 2428 01:25:18,590 --> 01:25:21,630 a friendly way. Yeah. Very aggressive with her 2429 01:25:21,630 --> 01:25:22,130 desire 2430 01:25:22,645 --> 01:25:24,425 for love and affection. Yes. 2431 01:25:24,885 --> 01:25:26,804 I'm still not allowed to pick this cat 2432 01:25:26,804 --> 01:25:28,965 up. Y'all, it's not like I do not 2433 01:25:28,965 --> 01:25:29,465 try. 2434 01:25:30,005 --> 01:25:31,925 JB has managed it, what, twice now? Twice 2435 01:25:31,925 --> 01:25:33,764 now. A little bit longer each time, but 2436 01:25:33,764 --> 01:25:34,979 not for very long. It's not like we're 2437 01:25:34,979 --> 01:25:37,220 walking around cuddling her. Ella, you can pick 2438 01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:38,500 up and hold her like she is a 2439 01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:39,539 baby. Yeah. 2440 01:25:40,180 --> 01:25:41,779 She tolerates it from the kids more than 2441 01:25:41,779 --> 01:25:42,680 from us. But 2442 01:25:43,060 --> 01:25:45,800 and Onyx is like, bitch, if you touch 2443 01:25:46,180 --> 01:25:47,939 if you come under the undercarriage while I'm 2444 01:25:47,939 --> 01:25:48,225 standing 2445 01:25:49,425 --> 01:25:50,645 here, I'm out the door. 2446 01:25:52,305 --> 01:25:53,445 But in the morning, 2447 01:25:54,064 --> 01:25:55,585 she follows me around the house, and she 2448 01:25:55,585 --> 01:25:56,805 has this very distinct 2449 01:25:57,664 --> 01:26:00,465 meow. And it you Mhmm. It's clear she's 2450 01:26:00,465 --> 01:26:02,625 annoyed with you when she meows at you. 2451 01:26:02,625 --> 01:26:05,380 And she will follow me, and any flat 2452 01:26:05,380 --> 01:26:08,359 surface I'm vaguely near, she's jumping on. So 2453 01:26:08,420 --> 01:26:10,020 if when I walk into the living room 2454 01:26:10,020 --> 01:26:11,460 and I walk past her cat tree, she 2455 01:26:11,460 --> 01:26:12,739 jumps on it. But then I walk past 2456 01:26:12,739 --> 01:26:13,780 it, so she jumps on the top of 2457 01:26:13,780 --> 01:26:15,860 the couch. Then I walk past that Yeah. 2458 01:26:16,020 --> 01:26:17,475 And I'm going into the dining room, and 2459 01:26:17,475 --> 01:26:18,914 she jumps on a chair, and then she 2460 01:26:18,914 --> 01:26:20,354 jumps on the bench we have, and then 2461 01:26:20,354 --> 01:26:21,795 she'll jump on my seat. And I'm like 2462 01:26:21,875 --> 01:26:23,395 It's like, what is that what is that 2463 01:26:23,395 --> 01:26:24,215 that they do? 2464 01:26:24,594 --> 01:26:25,234 A park 2465 01:26:25,954 --> 01:26:27,494 parkour. Parkour. Parkour. 2466 01:26:30,559 --> 01:26:31,139 Meowing the 2467 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:32,579 whole time. Meow. So this 2468 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,559 morning, I took a few minutes. She followed 2469 01:26:34,559 --> 01:26:36,719 me to go to the bathroom, silly me. 2470 01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:38,800 And I'm in the bedroom after, you know, 2471 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,399 and she's on the bed. And I'm like, 2472 01:26:40,399 --> 01:26:42,159 fine. I will give you some we were 2473 01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:43,920 there ten minutes, and she still was not 2474 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,435 ready for me to leave. Mm-mm. 2475 01:26:46,454 --> 01:26:49,354 She came this close to licking my hand. 2476 01:26:49,655 --> 01:26:51,494 She sniffed it real hard. Like, I could 2477 01:26:51,494 --> 01:26:53,175 tell that her nose was wet. That's not 2478 01:26:53,175 --> 01:26:55,414 an onyx thing to do. I was like, 2479 01:26:55,414 --> 01:26:57,275 okay. So you've gotta, like, hit 2480 01:26:57,735 --> 01:26:59,114 not quite middle age 2481 01:26:59,909 --> 01:27:02,390 and you're you're relaxed enough to let your 2482 01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:05,449 nose touch my hand that you're aggressively 2483 01:27:05,989 --> 01:27:08,630 head butting. She gets so aggressive with, like, 2484 01:27:08,630 --> 01:27:10,390 doing that swipe that cats will do, like, 2485 01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:11,909 the side of their head for you to 2486 01:27:11,909 --> 01:27:13,994 rub against you, but she'll do it against 2487 01:27:13,994 --> 01:27:16,975 my hand that she'll literally get my my 2488 01:27:17,034 --> 01:27:18,715 finger is either trying to go up her 2489 01:27:18,715 --> 01:27:20,875 nose or in her ear, and she just 2490 01:27:20,875 --> 01:27:23,274 rolls with it. Mhmm. Like, that doesn't freak 2491 01:27:23,274 --> 01:27:25,994 you out, but me trying to gently pick 2492 01:27:25,994 --> 01:27:27,295 you up does. 2493 01:27:29,449 --> 01:27:30,329 Well, you know, she, 2494 01:27:31,050 --> 01:27:32,569 in the in the evening before we go 2495 01:27:32,569 --> 01:27:34,569 to bed, while I'm doing my little routine 2496 01:27:34,569 --> 01:27:36,649 to get, you know, the house ready and 2497 01:27:36,649 --> 01:27:37,149 everything, 2498 01:27:40,329 --> 01:27:40,829 she 2499 01:27:41,295 --> 01:27:44,095 expects. She expects. Because you trained her to 2500 01:27:44,095 --> 01:27:46,494 expect it. Her brushing. Oh, yeah. She will 2501 01:27:46,494 --> 01:27:47,875 be brushed at night. Yeah. 2502 01:27:48,255 --> 01:27:49,935 She will let me brush her because she 2503 01:27:49,935 --> 01:27:51,695 likes being brushed. She likes clearly likes the 2504 01:27:51,695 --> 01:27:53,395 sensation. Mhmm. But, 2505 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,439 it's not it I could spend an hour 2506 01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,020 brushing her at any point in the day. 2507 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,779 Ten minutes before 2508 01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,560 the normal routine, she would still expect the 2509 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,380 same treatment 2510 01:28:05,994 --> 01:28:07,295 at the time. Yeah. 2511 01:28:08,155 --> 01:28:09,055 Yep. Okay. 2512 01:28:09,755 --> 01:28:10,975 I will not get 2513 01:28:11,354 --> 01:28:11,854 between, 2514 01:28:12,875 --> 01:28:14,395 a cat and her cat daddy. I'm just 2515 01:28:14,555 --> 01:28:16,574 I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. 2516 01:28:16,795 --> 01:28:18,095 I'm not doing that. 2517 01:28:19,275 --> 01:28:20,159 I know better. 2518 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,760 I know better. Oh, oh, speaking of this 2519 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,860 time, not cat daddy, dog daddy. 2520 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,500 The other night, over the weekend, 2521 01:28:31,119 --> 01:28:32,800 I can't remember which day it was. Monday 2522 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:33,300 night? 2523 01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:35,534 I don't remember what we're doing. 2524 01:28:36,735 --> 01:28:38,595 Sunday night because we had game night, 2525 01:28:39,375 --> 01:28:40,614 on Discord Mhmm. 2526 01:28:41,055 --> 01:28:42,515 With the Patreon community. 2527 01:28:43,295 --> 01:28:43,795 Okay. 2528 01:28:44,175 --> 01:28:46,034 We get done with game night. 2529 01:28:46,494 --> 01:28:48,975 We go about, do our thing. We go 2530 01:28:48,975 --> 01:28:50,414 to bed. We're getting ready to go to 2531 01:28:50,414 --> 01:28:53,000 bed. Yeah. Lola Oh my god. Yeah. Usually 2532 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,840 is already either in her crate or on 2533 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,599 the couch sleeping at when we are getting 2534 01:28:56,599 --> 01:28:57,800 ready to go to bed. She's done for 2535 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,460 the day. She comes in the kitchen. She 2536 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,715 leans against JB's legs. She leans against mine. 2537 01:29:03,715 --> 01:29:04,914 We give her love and we're like, what 2538 01:29:04,914 --> 01:29:06,755 are you doing awake? Loving, loving, loving, loving. 2539 01:29:06,755 --> 01:29:08,755 And we're like, that's so weird. And JB's 2540 01:29:08,755 --> 01:29:10,994 like, okay now, Lola. Okay. Go to bed. 2541 01:29:10,994 --> 01:29:13,154 And she's a good girl. She's all. She 2542 01:29:13,154 --> 01:29:15,579 did it. We are in our bedroom. We 2543 01:29:15,579 --> 01:29:17,659 are, like, we are naked, y'all. We're ready 2544 01:29:17,659 --> 01:29:19,100 to be in we were in the bed. 2545 01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:20,880 We were ready we were under the covers. 2546 01:29:20,939 --> 01:29:23,819 And JB goes, oh, shit. I know why 2547 01:29:23,819 --> 01:29:24,960 she was in the kitchen. 2548 01:29:25,420 --> 01:29:26,880 Yeah. Why was she in the kitchen? 2549 01:29:27,545 --> 01:29:29,244 I forgot to give her her, 2550 01:29:29,784 --> 01:29:32,984 big treat evening treat. Her her dessert at 2551 01:29:32,984 --> 01:29:34,984 night. Yeah. It's like her last treat she 2552 01:29:34,984 --> 01:29:36,824 gets, and it's her, like, her good ones. 2553 01:29:36,824 --> 01:29:38,844 Her big premium treat for the day. 2554 01:29:39,625 --> 01:29:42,579 And so you you absolutely know this man 2555 01:29:42,579 --> 01:29:44,260 got up, put clothes on, went back out, 2556 01:29:44,260 --> 01:29:46,100 got her out of wherever she was sleeping, 2557 01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:47,779 and gave her her treat. Right? We all 2558 01:29:47,779 --> 01:29:50,039 know that's what happened. Right? Of course. 2559 01:29:53,779 --> 01:29:55,795 Let me just say, if in the middle 2560 01:29:55,795 --> 01:29:57,555 of the night, I realized I had not 2561 01:29:57,555 --> 01:30:00,135 gotten my diet Coke during the day, 2562 01:30:01,155 --> 01:30:03,074 sucks to suck. Lay your ass down and 2563 01:30:03,074 --> 01:30:03,895 go to sleep. 2564 01:30:04,755 --> 01:30:05,494 Just saying. 2565 01:30:06,755 --> 01:30:07,715 I'm just saying. I 2566 01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:13,329 mm-mm. I am in third place 2567 01:30:13,789 --> 01:30:15,409 after Onyx and Lola. 2568 01:30:17,229 --> 01:30:18,609 It's fine. It's fine. 2569 01:30:18,989 --> 01:30:20,050 Ella's not really 2570 01:30:20,350 --> 01:30:21,015 on the rating. 2571 01:30:21,494 --> 01:30:23,675 Ella's always spit out of him. 2572 01:30:24,695 --> 01:30:27,335 Poor Ella. Ella can do nothing right for 2573 01:30:27,335 --> 01:30:27,835 JB. 2574 01:30:28,534 --> 01:30:31,095 I'm the one who does litter boxes and 2575 01:30:31,095 --> 01:30:31,914 cleans up, 2576 01:30:32,614 --> 01:30:34,935 outside the litter box because apparently her ass 2577 01:30:34,935 --> 01:30:37,399 hangs over the we have a lidded litter 2578 01:30:37,399 --> 01:30:39,340 box because her ass really does hang over. 2579 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,639 She still manages to have her ass hang 2580 01:30:41,639 --> 01:30:44,199 over out the entrance, and I I clean 2581 01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:45,179 up a lot of pee. 2582 01:30:45,719 --> 01:30:48,060 But I like Ella more than 2583 01:30:50,465 --> 01:30:52,164 And I'm cleaning up her piss. 2584 01:30:56,145 --> 01:30:58,944 Ella's brain dead. She she is not she 2585 01:30:58,944 --> 01:31:00,864 does not get possession of the brain cell. 2586 01:31:00,864 --> 01:31:02,385 That is so true. No. We just look 2587 01:31:02,385 --> 01:31:03,585 at her and go, thank god you're pretty. 2588 01:31:03,585 --> 01:31:05,649 And she's Exactly. She's so cute. She's so 2589 01:31:05,649 --> 01:31:07,649 cute. She's got that perfect pink nose. She 2590 01:31:07,649 --> 01:31:09,729 got Mhmm. Pink Toby. Which is, you know, 2591 01:31:09,729 --> 01:31:12,609 got the fluffy ferns. Yeah. Yeah. And she 2592 01:31:12,609 --> 01:31:14,310 will let you hold her like a baby. 2593 01:31:16,050 --> 01:31:18,555 But she also whines. Oh my god. Oh 2594 01:31:18,555 --> 01:31:20,715 my god. And because she's not allowed to 2595 01:31:20,715 --> 01:31:21,775 hold the brain cell, 2596 01:31:22,395 --> 01:31:23,614 Onyx has permanent 2597 01:31:23,994 --> 01:31:26,155 possession Right. And probably a couple extras because 2598 01:31:26,155 --> 01:31:27,534 that Onyx is smart. 2599 01:31:28,635 --> 01:31:29,135 Yeah. 2600 01:31:29,914 --> 01:31:32,260 She will she'll be eating her breakfast, 2601 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,039 and she's gotten slower about eating over the 2602 01:31:35,039 --> 01:31:36,880 past several months. Mhmm. Not like she's not 2603 01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,159 eating. She's just slower than she used to 2604 01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:40,420 be. She doesn't unhind her jaw anymore. Right. 2605 01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:41,380 So she will 2606 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,654 not be done with her own food. Onyx 2607 01:31:44,734 --> 01:31:46,274 eats primarily in the bedroom 2608 01:31:46,654 --> 01:31:48,974 so that she'll actually eat. If the bedroom 2609 01:31:48,974 --> 01:31:51,135 door opens because we're letting Onyx out because 2610 01:31:51,135 --> 01:31:52,814 I'm coming out whatever Onyx is done with 2611 01:31:52,814 --> 01:31:53,474 her breakfast, 2612 01:31:54,255 --> 01:31:57,295 Ella will stop eating her food to leave 2613 01:31:57,295 --> 01:31:59,234 and go see if she can get whatever 2614 01:31:59,295 --> 01:32:00,329 Onyx has left 2615 01:32:01,289 --> 01:32:02,189 behind consistently. 2616 01:32:02,970 --> 01:32:05,609 Yeah. It's like, coral, you you you haven't 2617 01:32:05,609 --> 01:32:08,170 even finished this yet. Finish all your food. 2618 01:32:08,170 --> 01:32:09,229 Do you do you know 2619 01:32:09,609 --> 01:32:11,530 see, I I feed I feed the two 2620 01:32:11,530 --> 01:32:13,689 cats first in the morning. You have to 2621 01:32:13,689 --> 01:32:14,444 or oh my god. 2622 01:32:15,164 --> 01:32:16,784 Yeah. They'd cry the whole time. 2623 01:32:17,164 --> 01:32:19,744 And once they're settled, then I feed 2624 01:32:20,284 --> 01:32:22,125 Lola. Who is the ultimate good girl because 2625 01:32:22,125 --> 01:32:24,444 she's she's she just sits there and waits 2626 01:32:24,444 --> 01:32:25,984 patiently. Mhmm. Now, 2627 01:32:27,085 --> 01:32:30,600 I made shelves in the kitchen Mhmm. So 2628 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,600 that the cats can eat up off the 2629 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,760 ground. So they're away, you know, so There's 2630 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,619 no worry about Lola getting into their 2631 01:32:37,399 --> 01:32:39,320 food. That's before we knew how much of 2632 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,479 a good girl Lola is. Yeah. Like, Lola's 2633 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,960 gonna graze, but she'll let you leave your 2634 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:45,904 bowl. She won't, like, slurp in your bowl 2635 01:32:45,904 --> 01:32:47,204 while you're in. You know? 2636 01:32:48,545 --> 01:32:50,804 She's got manners. Yeah. So 2637 01:32:52,064 --> 01:32:55,024 Ella's spot where she eats is pretty much 2638 01:32:55,024 --> 01:32:55,844 over where 2639 01:32:57,270 --> 01:33:00,649 Lola Mhmm. Eats. Mhmm. So when I prepare 2640 01:33:00,710 --> 01:33:01,210 Lola's 2641 01:33:02,069 --> 01:33:02,569 food, 2642 01:33:03,189 --> 01:33:04,949 I bring it over. We do our little 2643 01:33:04,949 --> 01:33:06,550 thing. She sits and does her little Oh, 2644 01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:08,630 he's trained her. Like, he does puts a 2645 01:33:08,630 --> 01:33:10,470 finger up, and Lola just sits like a 2646 01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:12,385 very pretty girl. Mhmm. I mean, he could 2647 01:33:12,385 --> 01:33:14,145 probably train me the same way, but And 2648 01:33:14,145 --> 01:33:15,905 she doesn't move until I put that finger 2649 01:33:15,905 --> 01:33:17,265 down and say go. I don't know if 2650 01:33:17,265 --> 01:33:18,385 I could do that. I don't I don't 2651 01:33:18,385 --> 01:33:19,845 think I'm as good a girl as Lola. 2652 01:33:21,345 --> 01:33:23,125 Yeah. She fidgety. Yeah. I know. 2653 01:33:23,505 --> 01:33:25,265 But but when I when I do that 2654 01:33:25,425 --> 01:33:26,885 Mhmm. She stops eating. 2655 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,480 Ella. And Ella stops eating and she's leaning 2656 01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:30,680 over and you're like, what what they got? 2657 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,360 What do that? Maybe it's better than mine. 2658 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:32,860 Yeah. 2659 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:33,900 Ella. 2660 01:33:35,239 --> 01:33:37,020 Now for all that 2661 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,800 JB acts like he does not like Ella, 2662 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,475 let me tell you I think I've told 2663 01:33:41,475 --> 01:33:43,814 this before what what he does. So 2664 01:33:44,195 --> 01:33:47,414 sometimes Onyx goes off her fucking feet. Okay? 2665 01:33:47,635 --> 01:33:50,114 And she doesn't want that flavor of wet 2666 01:33:50,114 --> 01:33:52,435 stuff. Maybe it's batch bronze. Something they they 2667 01:33:52,435 --> 01:33:54,060 screwed up the recipe. I don't know. She 2668 01:33:54,060 --> 01:33:56,779 wanna eat it. So we always keep dry 2669 01:33:56,779 --> 01:33:58,939 food on hand for those times because sometimes 2670 01:33:58,939 --> 01:34:00,139 when she won't eat wet, she will at 2671 01:34:00,139 --> 01:34:01,039 least eat dry. 2672 01:34:01,739 --> 01:34:02,239 To 2673 01:34:02,699 --> 01:34:04,859 to be kind to Ella, because Ella just 2674 01:34:04,859 --> 01:34:06,385 wants a bowl of food in front her. 2675 01:34:06,385 --> 01:34:07,905 She does not know or care. Is it 2676 01:34:07,905 --> 01:34:09,024 gonna be wet? Is it gonna be dry? 2677 01:34:09,024 --> 01:34:11,024 That makes no matter to her. Hot cold, 2678 01:34:11,024 --> 01:34:12,545 she don't care. She'll she'll eat it in 2679 01:34:12,545 --> 01:34:13,585 her bowl. As long as it's put in 2680 01:34:13,585 --> 01:34:14,965 front of her, she will eat. Right. 2681 01:34:15,505 --> 01:34:17,765 But what JB will do unprompted, 2682 01:34:19,140 --> 01:34:21,779 when he gives Onyx a bowl of dry 2683 01:34:21,779 --> 01:34:22,920 food, he sprinkles 2684 01:34:23,699 --> 01:34:25,460 a little bit of dry food on Ella's 2685 01:34:25,460 --> 01:34:27,319 food and we call that her croutons. 2686 01:34:29,300 --> 01:34:31,219 And he'll be like, that damn cat. I'm 2687 01:34:31,219 --> 01:34:32,895 like, that damn cat, you still gave her 2688 01:34:32,895 --> 01:34:33,555 her croutons? 2689 01:34:35,935 --> 01:34:37,854 You still she didn't ask for it. She 2690 01:34:37,854 --> 01:34:40,034 didn't know to ask for it. We're frenemies. 2691 01:34:41,534 --> 01:34:43,935 I think you love her. You just don't 2692 01:34:43,935 --> 01:34:44,835 like her very 2693 01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:51,270 much. You love her. You just don't like 2694 01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:51,770 her. 2695 01:34:53,429 --> 01:34:55,369 She would not be your friend in another 2696 01:34:55,429 --> 01:34:56,409 in another universe. 2697 01:34:59,029 --> 01:35:00,569 Anyway Yeah. Anyhoo. 2698 01:35:01,510 --> 01:35:04,255 That's us Mhmm. And our crazy fur babies. 2699 01:35:04,255 --> 01:35:04,755 Exactly. 2700 01:35:05,935 --> 01:35:07,855 So are we ready to, call it a 2701 01:35:07,855 --> 01:35:11,155 night? Yeah. Wrap it up. I am. I'm 2702 01:35:11,855 --> 01:35:13,315 I'm wearing too many, 2703 01:35:13,775 --> 01:35:16,255 like, clothes that I can be seen in. 2704 01:35:16,255 --> 01:35:17,935 I'm ready to, like, wear the stuff where 2705 01:35:17,935 --> 01:35:20,269 my tits are practically hanging out, but I'm 2706 01:35:20,269 --> 01:35:22,349 comfy, and that's all that matters. I'm ready 2707 01:35:22,349 --> 01:35:24,349 for very soft and very comfy too now. 2708 01:35:24,349 --> 01:35:26,849 Mhmm. And dessert. We have dessert. That's right. 2709 01:35:27,069 --> 01:35:29,389 Oh, yeah. Mhmm. Mhmm. So we're gonna go 2710 01:35:29,389 --> 01:35:30,524 do that. Yep. Okay. 2711 01:35:30,925 --> 01:35:31,425 Dessert. 2712 01:35:32,284 --> 01:35:33,344 It's, apples 2713 01:35:33,804 --> 01:35:36,364 It's an apple dumpling. Based dessert. So, yeah. 2714 01:35:36,364 --> 01:35:37,885 Gotta go. And it's the last of it. 2715 01:35:37,885 --> 01:35:39,725 Yeah. We finished it up. Mhmm. Anyway, we're 2716 01:35:39,725 --> 01:35:42,465 gonna go, next week, Wednesday, 3PM 2717 01:35:42,939 --> 01:35:45,260 Eastern. I almost said Central again. Mhmm. That's 2718 01:35:45,260 --> 01:35:47,340 when we'll be live streaming. Hopefully, that's a 2719 01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:49,180 time that works for folks who wanna go 2720 01:35:49,180 --> 01:35:50,380 to the stream and haven't been able to. 2721 01:35:50,539 --> 01:35:53,100 We hope to see you there. Okay. Alright. 2722 01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:55,230 We'll be back next week. Yep. Okay. Alright. 2723 01:35:55,230 --> 01:35:56,130 Bye. Bye.