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You're listening to the Living BDSM podcast episode

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four fifty. Kayla Lords here with the one,

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the only,

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the only crazy motherfucker who'd be in a

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closet with me and chop. Yeah.

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It's Says a lot about me, though. Really

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does, but it also shows we're two peas

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in a pod. Yeah. We're clearly meant for

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each other.

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Wow. Right?

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This one this this intro, not the whole

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episode y'all. Don't worry.

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This intro is for the OGs. It's for

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the ones who were here when we were

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literally recording We came back in a closet.

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And a recording on a laptop because we

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will commit to a bit, y'all. 100%.

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We are we huddled around the

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microphone that's built into the laptop? Yes. Yeah.

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But are we clearly older than we once

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were because we're sitting in chairs. Chairs. Right.

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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Not on the floor. No.

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No. Neither of us have. We'd be crawling

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out of our closet. Yeah. Just I I

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would not be at the at the, stream

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tonight. No. You wouldn't. You would not. I'd

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still be here on the floor.

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We're doing this, as you maybe have figured

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out from the just the title. We're celebrating

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our tenth podcast anniversary.

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And, you know, we're

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I've set it up. Is this is this

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the first time JB is hearing this? Yeah.

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I've set it up. So it's almost like

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one of those,

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those back in the day, the old shows,

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I'd be like, oh, let's do a retrospective.

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Let's do this. Mhmm. And it's like a

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variety of things. We're not just doing one

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thing tonight. We're doing a few things.

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I say tonight. I don't know when y'all

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are listening. I don't know your life. Anyway,

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this,

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not the sound quality, but the chaos, this

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is what you're in for in this episode.

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Welcome to the Loving BDSM podcast. If this

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is your first time listening, glad to have

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you. If you're back for another week, welcome

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back. Loving BDSM is produced every Friday for

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your kinky pleasure and education, and show notes

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are found at lovingbdsm.net.

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Come back often and feel free to add

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the podcast to your favorite podcast app. You

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can also follow the show on FetLife at

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loving BDSM

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PC. That PC stands for podcast y'all. On

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Instagram and, technically, threads at that handle, I

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will

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forever motherfucking

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hate

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with a passion

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of a thousand fiery suns.

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Our Instagram handle is loving d s and

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the number one, so that's at loving d

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s one,

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on blue sky because things have changed in

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ten years,

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lovingbdsm.

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Blah blah blah blah or on YouTube at

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youtube.com/lovingbdsm

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where you can watch us live stream the

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podcast every Wednesday.

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All links are in the show notes.

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So

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let me get my little notes up. Two

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announcements.

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They are actually, like, about the topic episode.

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Let me do the one I didn't write

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down while I can remember it.

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This Friday, August 15, it's a date I

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remember because it's the actual tenth anniversary

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of the podcast.

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We have our monthly Friday night livestream virtual

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munch thing that we do.

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have to end at its normal time because

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we'll be in the middle of moving the

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oldest into a new apartment that weekend, Friday

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and Saturday.

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So, but it'll be chaotic and celebratory,

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hopefully.

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So that's coming,

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on YouTube. Yay. Okay.

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You know what you didn't do? Or you

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did and I ignored you. Did you say

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hello to everybody? No.

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It's the tenth anniversary. You can't be skipping

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steps. Hello, everyone. There we go. Oh, podcast

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listeners. Y'all got that one too. Okay.

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The the second announcement,

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as we have tried to do consistently but

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not always been consistent,

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for our anniversary, we do have a giveaway

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that's going on. The link is in the

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If you've ever entered a loving BDSM giveaway

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before, it will look completely different. That's because

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that site I used to use is no

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is going out of business. Yeah. So I

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was like, maybe I won't maybe I won't

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use you this time. I'll go somewhere else.

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Door. Yeah. Yeah.

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We have four prizes,

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multiple ways to,

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enter.

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essentially for first

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nope. What are fucking words y'all? Let me

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maybe take a beat. Let me try to,

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like, calm myself. Let's try this the fuck

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again.

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If we were professionals, we'd edit this out.

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Okay. No. I won't. So there are four

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prizes.

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The fourth, like, I've I placed them. I

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ranked them because they get

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you know, there's there's different levels is what

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I did because it it, like, felt right.

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The fourth place prize, you will get,

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we will ship to you, yes, even if

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you're international,

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our tenth podcast anniversary

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Pin and pin are the same. I'm talking

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about p I n, enamel pin.

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for this year, and it's we're not putting

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them, like, out available to the public. It's

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you gotta be connected to us, giveaway, Patreon,

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whatever, whatever to have access to get one.

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place, you're gonna get a $10 gift card

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to Kinkery. And I have to do it

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as a coupon code, but basically $10 to

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our loving BDSM Etsy shop and the pin.

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pin. I have several pins. I'm trying to

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get these in people's hands, y'all. And the

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top prize,

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the one, you get a $50 Kinkery

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gift card, $50

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to spend at the Loving BDSM Etsy shop.

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we have done giveaways in the past where,

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like, I am shipping multiple things to multiple

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places, and I went, I would just like

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email most of it and then mail a

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small thing. That's what I'd like to do

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this year. It only took me ten years

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to figure this shit out.

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the the gift card and the discount and

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the whatever might might be interesting to some

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of y'all.

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be done by email. They won't have an

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expiration date.

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except maybe the Etsy one. I don't think

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the Etsy one could be, but the Kinkery

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one, you could.

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has started as of the sound of my

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voice and runs,

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weird things about time and dates, thought I

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would stop this giveaway in the middle of

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the month, like, a week before. And I

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went, I'm not gonna remember that date. That's

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not like, saying the end of the month

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feels like a round number. It's not a

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round number, but it's got the same vibe.

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I know some of y'all have to know

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what I mean. I know not everybody does,

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but some of y'all have to know, like,

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that feel.

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It's a good round number. The very last

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day of the month, the last minute of

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the last day of the month, that's when

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the giveaway is.

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There's tons of ways to,

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enter.

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You you know, so

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please, if you are interested in any of

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those prizes, you wanna celebrate our ten years

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with us, go forth. Mhmm. Links in the

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We've barely begun, and I've already gone off

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the fucking rails. That didn't take long, did

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Let's get into this. So I have broken

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our

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podcast anniversary episode into sort of, like, let's

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look at the past. Mhmm. Let's do what

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we do, which is answer some questions. And

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let's, like, do a little bit of dreaming.

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And that the dreaming was a suggestion from

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Yarn and Whiskey in our Discord

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server available through our Patreon.

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So I I who am almost never on

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FetLife y'all, I just I just almost never

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went on there today. Yesterday? Today? What are

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days? I don't know. Yesterday. And was like,

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let's do a poll. Let's ask questions.

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And we got responses. And so I'm gonna

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do a thing that I usually would not

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do this way because it makes me deeply

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uncomfortable

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to say out loud nice things people say

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about me.

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That's that's a me thing. I'm gonna do

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it because some of these things were so

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freaking cool. So on our FetLife page, profile,

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whatever,

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put the poll out that said, do you

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consider yourself a cricket?

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I'm a proud cricket.

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And what the fuck is a cricket?

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It's okay to not know what a cricket

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is because and I will explain it for

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anybody who doesn't. Because 81%

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of our poll, respondents said I'm a proud

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cricket. But 19%

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who are following us did say, what the

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fuck is a cricket? So

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for folks to leave comments and let us

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know when and or where you found the

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podcast.

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Because, you know, we do have

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at least that I know of, at least

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a handful of people who've been with us

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from the very beginning, but a lot of

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people kind of filtered in over the years.

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So I'm gonna read those comments. I'm not

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gonna say names.

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It's not fully private because it's on our

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FetLife, but, like,

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I'm just gonna read the comments.

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But let's start with what a cricket is.

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This is not the first time we've explained

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If you know what a cricket is, feel

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free to zone out for five minutes. It's

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fine.

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when we first started doing the podcast, it

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was just us talking. We'd have a topic,

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but as y'all have

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y'all know well,

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I go off on tangents and somebody,

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rightly so, left a comment or sent an

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email or whatever and said, look, I like

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your stories, but I love your topics. But

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when you go off on a side tangent,

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I I get lost. Could we, like, not

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do that? But it was always stuff I

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wanted to talk about because to me,

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I'm the way I can do this and

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it's why I just tell y'all we're nothing

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special. We're just weirdos on the internet.

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Is because I have to feel like I'm

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sitting like at a kitchen table or sitting

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in a coffee shop or just chatting with

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like

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people who are friends or people who we

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are vibing together in some way, right? And

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so then there are all these side things

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I always like they come to mind. Y'all

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y'all been here. Y'all have heard them. So

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what we did was we created the bonus

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section. And I I know that's a misnomer.

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I know if you're new, you think, oh,

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I'm gonna get extra

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kink content. No. You're not. You're gonna get

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our random thoughts and hear about our lives

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in different ways and know way too much

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about our pets. Okay? That is that's what

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you can do. But when we first started

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it, I would say things like, there's probably

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not gonna be anybody here. We're gonna be

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talking to the crickets. There's gonna be crickets

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chirping in the background. Nobody's actually gonna listen

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to this. Why would anybody wanna listen to

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this? And after

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not that long after we started the bonus

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section to try to keep me more on

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track,

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somebody tweeted at us and said, I I

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listened to the bonus section. I am a

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proud cricket. And crickets and proud crickets became

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a total I just went with it. I

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embraced the shit out of it. Because I

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was like, man, if you can sit through

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us

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trying to be serious, but we are who

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we are, and then get to that point

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where we're like, okay. We're not actually dying

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about kink anymore.

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We're talking about, like, random shit. And you

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wanna be there?

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Y'all are proud crickets. And so I've used

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that

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off and on. We use it a little

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bit more heavily through our Patreon.

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I've sort of embraced it even more.

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So yeah. You don't have it, but I

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know over time we've had

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some listeners send us cricket art. Mhmm. And

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I had one

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listener who sent us some cricket art and

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said, you are allowed to use it. And

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I was like, cool. But I will never

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put that up for sale because that's their

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work. That's not license. So when I use

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their work, it is Patreon goodies. It's like

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you you have to be in in that

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part of our community to get access to

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some of that stuff. And for folks who

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have asked for more Proud Cricut stickers, because,

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I used one of the designs for stickers

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several years ago. I was pricing them out

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today. I'm waiting for a better sale to

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come up from where I usually get them.

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I am pricing them.

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So that's what the hell a Cricut is

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if you're like, what the fuck?

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So

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81%

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of the folks on FetLife who answered the

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poll said, I'm proud Cricut.

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I love I love y'all for that.

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By the way, if you do not listen

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to the bonus section, if you're like, I

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can only take so much of this chaos,

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we're not offended. We really are not.

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You

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know, I have said over the years, we've

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both said everything you learn,

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about how to navigate kink those skills are

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transferable.

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Communication,

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consent, privacy. Mhmm. So, you know, when we

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say we

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we take

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consent seriously, we mean in every aspect of

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life. I want you to listen to the

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shit you wanna listen to and I want

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you to have the ability to opt out

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when you need to opt out. Right?

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So that that extends to small things

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like the bonus section.

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Okay. So I'm gonna do this thing that's

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gonna make me very,

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embarrassed

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because I am really not

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good

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at

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this. But I want I want a JB

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to hear this. I wanted, you know, some

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of y'all to hear it if you're like

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because I think some people might see themselves

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in some of these things. So I'm gonna

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I'm gonna read these comments that were left.

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I've gotta scroll. See? People were, like Alright.

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Really, like, open. I'm trying to be in

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order here. Oh, no. I shouldn't have scrolled.

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That was the problem. Okay.

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First person says, I think I found your

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podcast in 2018.

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I feel like maybe I saw a thing

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about it at one of the kinky events

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I went to forever ago.

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I don't usually listen every week, but I'll

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definitely binge some episodes when I get the

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chance, especially the ones that are pertinent to

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my dynamic at the time.

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We're currently we've currently been reworking our dynamic

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from the ground up or close to, and

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your episodes have been very helpful in, being

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talking points for how our needs and lives

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have changed.

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Thank you for being a resource for those

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of us doing 20 fourseven. Uh-huh. I know.

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See, I need you needed to hear these.

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Yeah. I can get over my, awkwardness.

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Somebody

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said, tune in radio, YouTube,

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2017.

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You know what? If you don't remember and

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time is hard, same. Same. Okay?

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Used to listen when I was

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diving back into Power Exchange. I was isolated

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looking for community.

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I am a kink educator now, and I

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still point people towards your podcast.

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Thank you. Okay.

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I found your podcast about six months after

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it started. Whoo. You were here when we

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were rougher than we are now.

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When I was looking for podcasts to listen

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to on a road trip and I've been

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listening ever since.

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Listening to your podcast is like hanging out

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with friends. That's the vibe. I can't remember

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who

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said it to me one time that it

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was like,

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sitting around the kitchen table, drinking coffee, talking

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about chat. Yeah. And the

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that yeah. I didn't know that I couldn't

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have articulated that until they did it for

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me, but that's been in my head ever

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since. Which is why for anybody who's like,

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why why isn't this slicker? Why isn't this

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more professional?

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You know?

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Because this is the vibe we're going for.

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It's okay if somebody's not into it, but

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Yeah. Yeah. If I have to make it,

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like, my job job, like, and take it

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seriously on

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a on a surface level, like, not the

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content, not the, you know, caring about audio

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quality or whatever, but, like, make it, quote,

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look a certain way or be a certain

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way to just, like, impress from appearances sake,

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I'm gonna get bored really fast. So

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yeah. It it can always be better, but

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we're going for a vibe here. Okay. Next

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comment, found y'all after my rough divorce. I'm

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so sorry. Sorry. When I wanted to immerse

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myself into the BDSM slash kink lifestyle,

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been my only constant in a world of

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chaos.

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I'm glad we could be that for you.

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The next person said, I think it was

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either 2017 or 2018, which is still we

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were still rough. And someone in a Facebook

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group recommended y'all's podcast as a good reference,

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and I've been listening ever since. There's always

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something worthwhile there, and my favorite parts are

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when Kayla

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has a air quote rant. Right. Not hard

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to get me there. Mhmm. They're very cleansing

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for me. I'm always very embarrassed, like, when

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we're done recording and streaming and I'm like,

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oh my god. I just

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lost my shit over that. I know my

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face was really red. I've yeah. I got

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one of I got one of those things.

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But they are very cleansing. I I it's

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a big energy expenditure but it all feels

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good.

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Okay. This one legit had me

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tearing up, but I told this person that.

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Okay.

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I wish I could express in words just

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how much it is meant to have your

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podcast, the Friday Hangouts, etcetera,

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to look forward to over the years. My

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wife found your podcast, I wanna say about

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six years ago, and it was invaluable in

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the early days of our journey together into

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this world and community.

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I have to admit, life has taken me

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in some odd directions the last two years,

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and I went from being on just about

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every livestream to zero. It happens. And it's

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left a big hole in my heart for

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a while. I think all the crickets here

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can relate that your content isn't just about

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kink and BDSM. It's about life and navigating

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life in general. Maybe through the lens of

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kink, but you've created a community and you've

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helped a lot of people. You're the only

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content creators I subscribe to in a paid

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sense, Patreon. Thank you for being a proud

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cricket. And I keep up my membership even

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without listening because you deserve the support.

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I'm gonna stop there cause it goes into

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other things. But,

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I will read this part because I I

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think other folks can relate. Kayla, you helped

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my wife be okay with being who she

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is. You helped her understand that it was

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okay to embrace her little tendencies and accept

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that part of her is real and not

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broken.

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Also, John, thank you for showing the world

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that a Dom isn't just what the movies

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might lead you to believe it is, and

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that tops need care and consideration too. Vulnerability

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is not a weakness.

537
00:18:47,945 --> 00:18:50,105
You do good work is all I and

538
00:18:50,105 --> 00:18:51,565
others recognize it.

539
00:18:52,025 --> 00:18:53,144
I mean, I've been trying to pimp you

540
00:18:53,144 --> 00:18:55,085
out for ten years. I'm just lying.

541
00:18:58,105 --> 00:18:58,765
Oh, gosh.

542
00:19:00,105 --> 00:19:00,605
Okay.

543
00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:05,150
I'm still scrolling. Yep. Folks left, like this

544
00:19:05,150 --> 00:19:06,990
was cool. I don't, you know, I don't

545
00:19:06,990 --> 00:19:08,690
go asking for this kind of thing

546
00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:11,869
ever. So this was kinda cool. This one

547
00:19:12,029 --> 00:19:14,109
listen to this. Google Podcasts is how they

548
00:19:14,109 --> 00:19:16,029
found us back when you were recording in

549
00:19:16,029 --> 00:19:17,914
a closet. You were only 15

550
00:19:18,294 --> 00:19:20,294
episodes in at that time. And I think

551
00:19:20,294 --> 00:19:22,214
that's about when you came in. I think

552
00:19:22,214 --> 00:19:22,934
I did, like, the first

553
00:19:24,054 --> 00:19:25,494
I don't know how many I'd have to

554
00:19:25,494 --> 00:19:26,154
go look. Yeah.

555
00:19:26,615 --> 00:19:28,534
Yeah. I I don't remember. But there came

556
00:19:28,534 --> 00:19:30,294
a point I kinda went, could you please

557
00:19:30,454 --> 00:19:33,240
Yeah. Condo this with me? Well, actually

558
00:19:34,819 --> 00:19:36,920
actually, the way you went about it

559
00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:39,380
was Tell me how you remember because you

560
00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:40,740
know my memory is shit. Okay. The way

561
00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:43,319
I remember it is you came to me

562
00:19:43,539 --> 00:19:45,779
and said you were doing this particular episode

563
00:19:45,859 --> 00:19:48,674
How we Okay. And and you felt it

564
00:19:48,674 --> 00:19:50,134
would be helpful to have

565
00:19:51,234 --> 00:19:53,555
a a big d's perspective. Okay. I have

566
00:19:53,555 --> 00:19:55,394
vague memories of that. Do I remember what

567
00:19:55,394 --> 00:19:56,755
that topic was? No. No. We'd have to

568
00:19:56,755 --> 00:19:58,035
go look at the archive. Don't have a

569
00:19:58,035 --> 00:19:58,769
fucking clue.

570
00:19:59,250 --> 00:20:01,089
But then, you know, we got such positive

571
00:20:01,089 --> 00:20:02,769
feedback from that. And it was so much

572
00:20:02,769 --> 00:20:05,089
fun even though we were sweating our ass

573
00:20:05,089 --> 00:20:05,589
off

574
00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:07,509
in that damn closet.

575
00:20:08,609 --> 00:20:10,049
Oh my god. Oh my god. The episodes

576
00:20:10,049 --> 00:20:11,990
were a lot shorter then. They were.

577
00:20:12,304 --> 00:20:13,904
But also that's when I went off on,

578
00:20:13,904 --> 00:20:16,704
like, side tangents because the brain fell off

579
00:20:16,704 --> 00:20:17,684
the tracks and

580
00:20:18,224 --> 00:20:20,804
a one thought beget another thought.

581
00:20:21,345 --> 00:20:21,845
Okay.

582
00:20:22,704 --> 00:20:24,930
Next comment. We have a good friend that

583
00:20:25,009 --> 00:20:26,450
introduced us to your podcast and we've been

584
00:20:26,450 --> 00:20:28,289
listening for roughly the last year and have

585
00:20:28,289 --> 00:20:29,890
loved it all. Thank you guys for what

586
00:20:29,890 --> 00:20:30,950
you do. Welcome.

587
00:20:34,369 --> 00:20:36,850
This this one is not really does not

588
00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:38,634
actually answer the question, but it did tickle

589
00:20:38,634 --> 00:20:40,474
me. How come someone might see this poll

590
00:20:40,474 --> 00:20:41,914
and wonder what the fuck is a cricket?

591
00:20:41,914 --> 00:20:43,595
I mean, do some people follow your account

592
00:20:43,595 --> 00:20:45,215
without listening to the podcast?

593
00:20:46,154 --> 00:20:47,994
Or maybe they always skip the intro and

594
00:20:47,994 --> 00:20:48,654
the outro.

595
00:20:50,555 --> 00:20:51,535
It's fine.

596
00:20:52,029 --> 00:20:53,089
It's fine. Right.

597
00:20:54,829 --> 00:20:56,750
And then the last one, I'm not sure

598
00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:58,029
when I found the podcast, but I know

599
00:20:58,029 --> 00:20:59,869
it was on Spotify. I love the live

600
00:20:59,869 --> 00:21:00,369
stream.

601
00:21:00,829 --> 00:21:02,269
You helped me through the death of my

602
00:21:02,269 --> 00:21:04,190
first owner. I am so sorry for your

603
00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:06,585
loss. I can't imagine not hearing your advice,

604
00:21:06,984 --> 00:21:08,204
and life challenge

605
00:21:08,664 --> 00:21:11,224
and your hearing your I can read. Hearing

606
00:21:11,224 --> 00:21:13,384
your advice and life challenges, it's helpful hearing

607
00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:15,464
other people raising many humans within a kink

608
00:21:15,464 --> 00:21:16,605
dynamic as well.

609
00:21:17,384 --> 00:21:19,144
Yeah. I'm it's so weird to me that

610
00:21:19,144 --> 00:21:22,200
we're, like, super close to not raising the

611
00:21:22,420 --> 00:21:24,680
humans anymore. I know. It it doesn't seem

612
00:21:25,619 --> 00:21:27,960
it's real. Wild. Wild. Mhmm.

613
00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:29,400
So

614
00:21:29,859 --> 00:21:31,240
that's part of the retrospective.

615
00:21:31,714 --> 00:21:32,914
Like, we've had folks,

616
00:21:33,954 --> 00:21:36,195
coming in and out. I mean, I've had

617
00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:38,195
some people who Yeah. For different reasons, they've

618
00:21:38,195 --> 00:21:39,795
they've reached out and said, okay. You know,

619
00:21:39,795 --> 00:21:41,555
maybe I'm not gonna do Patreon anymore, maybe

620
00:21:41,555 --> 00:21:42,375
this, maybe that.

621
00:21:42,674 --> 00:21:44,539
And they kinda drift away for whatever's going

622
00:21:44,539 --> 00:21:45,759
on in their life, and then

623
00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:47,440
they come back when

624
00:21:47,819 --> 00:21:49,279
when it's right. You know?

625
00:21:49,819 --> 00:21:52,059
The I think I know how I am,

626
00:21:52,059 --> 00:21:53,500
and I but I think the last few

627
00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:54,000
years,

628
00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:56,880
we've had our version of this where,

629
00:21:57,555 --> 00:21:59,154
you know, there are points in your life

630
00:21:59,154 --> 00:22:02,195
where you might intensely be into BDSM, whether

631
00:22:02,195 --> 00:22:04,755
it's learning or it's, you know, conventions or

632
00:22:04,755 --> 00:22:07,394
it's participating in community and, like, you're just

633
00:22:07,394 --> 00:22:09,015
deep the fuck in it.

634
00:22:09,315 --> 00:22:11,394
And then there comes, like, some point something's

635
00:22:11,394 --> 00:22:13,075
going on in life and you you have

636
00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:14,890
to it kinda has to fade to the

637
00:22:14,890 --> 00:22:15,390
background.

638
00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:18,890
We made it our professional life. So even

639
00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:21,150
when it fades, it never really fades.

640
00:22:21,529 --> 00:22:23,869
And I I'm grateful for that because

641
00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:26,410
pretty sure one of the few things that

642
00:22:26,410 --> 00:22:29,049
kept me sane for the several years of

643
00:22:29,049 --> 00:22:29,295
our,

644
00:22:29,855 --> 00:22:30,355
like,

645
00:22:31,295 --> 00:22:33,455
life Mhmm. Was the fact that we had

646
00:22:33,455 --> 00:22:35,455
our power exchange even if it was a

647
00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:37,955
muted, dulled down version of it.

648
00:22:38,575 --> 00:22:40,674
But, you know, that that makes sense that

649
00:22:41,134 --> 00:22:43,715
sometimes you're in and out and, you know,

650
00:22:43,855 --> 00:22:45,529
we get it. I I I like it

651
00:22:45,529 --> 00:22:47,210
when people, like, randomly find us. I like

652
00:22:47,210 --> 00:22:48,730
it when people are like, I used to

653
00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:49,230
listen.

654
00:22:49,529 --> 00:22:51,369
It's been a few years, and I'm like,

655
00:22:51,369 --> 00:22:53,950
I like it all. I just I'm always,

656
00:22:55,130 --> 00:22:58,410
very happy, but and pleasantly surprised, but also

657
00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:00,444
fucking shocked that everybody's like, yeah, I could

658
00:23:00,444 --> 00:23:02,204
listen to you ramble for an hour and

659
00:23:02,204 --> 00:23:02,865
a half.

660
00:23:03,484 --> 00:23:05,664
It's because you cut in with, like, your

661
00:23:05,884 --> 00:23:06,384
your,

662
00:23:07,404 --> 00:23:08,224
chill vibe.

663
00:23:08,525 --> 00:23:09,744
I'm over here, like,

664
00:23:10,204 --> 00:23:11,345
pure chaos,

665
00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:14,859
Tasmanian devil sort of thing. Really called chaos

666
00:23:14,859 --> 00:23:15,359
gremlin?

667
00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:18,059
That I am absolutely. And you know what?

668
00:23:18,059 --> 00:23:19,980
You wanna know what's sad about that? I

669
00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,539
desperately don't wanna be a chaos gremlin. I

670
00:23:22,539 --> 00:23:24,619
do I have not embraced that about myself.

671
00:23:24,619 --> 00:23:26,000
I find it very embarrassing

672
00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:28,894
sometimes because chaos is fun when I'm making

673
00:23:28,894 --> 00:23:30,414
jokes and we're all, like, having a good

674
00:23:30,414 --> 00:23:32,414
time. But then I'm like, what was I

675
00:23:32,414 --> 00:23:33,154
just saying?

676
00:23:33,695 --> 00:23:35,315
What are the words I like to use?

677
00:23:36,015 --> 00:23:37,555
Did that even make any sense?

678
00:23:40,894 --> 00:23:41,394
So,

679
00:23:42,255 --> 00:23:44,549
is there anything that you've Well, you know,

680
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:46,809
I don't know. The thing I I just,

681
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:50,009
you know, doing what we did earlier.

682
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:52,789
Yeah. A spoiler in case you would not

683
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:54,950
normally go listen to the podcast. But podcast

684
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:56,855
listeners who are, like, like, here with us

685
00:23:57,034 --> 00:23:58,214
now, we

686
00:23:59,315 --> 00:24:02,595
for the intro, only the intro. Yeah. We

687
00:24:02,595 --> 00:24:04,055
we did it old school.

688
00:24:04,515 --> 00:24:06,454
We went into our bedroom closet

689
00:24:07,075 --> 00:24:07,894
with a laptop

690
00:24:08,434 --> 00:24:10,259
and we recorded the intro like the old

691
00:24:10,259 --> 00:24:10,759
days.

692
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:13,140
Yeah. But unlike the old days, we needed

693
00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:15,220
a chair. Yeah. Neither neither one of us

694
00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:16,980
are gonna sit sit on the floor. No.

695
00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:19,000
And, We'd still be there.

696
00:24:19,299 --> 00:24:20,980
Crawl we'd crawling is the only way we

697
00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:23,299
go. And we only were able to last

698
00:24:23,299 --> 00:24:23,744
five minutes. Like,

699
00:24:25,744 --> 00:24:28,404
stamina for being Mhmm. In a hot stuffy,

700
00:24:29,265 --> 00:24:31,025
closet for Yeah. For more than a few

701
00:24:31,025 --> 00:24:32,704
minutes. But, you know, the the the whole

702
00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:33,204
progression

703
00:24:33,904 --> 00:24:34,964
of what has

704
00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:36,164
or the evolution.

705
00:24:36,849 --> 00:24:39,009
Mhmm. Well, I think. Started out in in

706
00:24:39,009 --> 00:24:41,409
a closet with a laptop. An old it

707
00:24:41,409 --> 00:24:43,409
was an old laptop when we started on

708
00:24:43,409 --> 00:24:45,009
it. It was old. Mhmm. Like, I've been

709
00:24:45,009 --> 00:24:47,329
using it for a few years from my

710
00:24:47,329 --> 00:24:50,210
previous big girl job. Right. I started my

711
00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:51,704
freelance life on it.

712
00:24:52,585 --> 00:24:54,424
Yeah. And then started a podcast on it.

713
00:24:54,424 --> 00:24:54,924
Mhmm.

714
00:24:55,304 --> 00:24:57,565
Mhmm. And then from the closet,

715
00:24:58,265 --> 00:24:59,565
we went to my desk.

716
00:24:59,944 --> 00:25:02,505
Yes. Oh, those videos are on YouTube. They

717
00:25:02,505 --> 00:25:03,565
they are not visually

718
00:25:03,944 --> 00:25:06,269
appealing at all. But, yeah. That's when I

719
00:25:06,269 --> 00:25:08,509
was like, well, let's let's just do this

720
00:25:08,509 --> 00:25:09,009
for

721
00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:11,789
more people and in more places. And from

722
00:25:11,789 --> 00:25:13,410
the desk, we moved to the loveseat.

723
00:25:14,349 --> 00:25:17,170
Well, before we went to the the loveseat

724
00:25:17,230 --> 00:25:18,130
for a time,

725
00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:19,890
we were doing,

726
00:25:20,875 --> 00:25:22,634
when we were renting the house, when we

727
00:25:22,634 --> 00:25:24,555
moved to where the town was going now.

728
00:25:24,555 --> 00:25:24,795
That's that's

729
00:25:25,674 --> 00:25:27,355
No. You're right. Well, you're right. At the

730
00:25:27,355 --> 00:25:29,194
condo, we rent the loveseat. The condo, we

731
00:25:29,194 --> 00:25:30,875
were in the loveseat. On my memory. I

732
00:25:30,875 --> 00:25:32,315
have a shipment right here. That was when

733
00:25:32,315 --> 00:25:34,315
we did the loveseat. Okay. When we moved

734
00:25:34,315 --> 00:25:36,529
here to Ocala and we were in the

735
00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:39,009
rental, that's when we did the fireplace chat.

736
00:25:39,009 --> 00:25:40,930
Yes. But sometimes we would also do desk

737
00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:42,150
stuff. True. Right.

738
00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:44,049
But for the most part, it was the

739
00:25:44,049 --> 00:25:45,349
fireplace. Yes.

740
00:25:45,730 --> 00:25:47,410
Yes. And those videos are getting a little

741
00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:49,875
traction on YouTube. It's very strange. I'm looking

742
00:25:49,875 --> 00:25:51,795
at stats. I'm looking at my YouTube dashboard

743
00:25:51,795 --> 00:25:54,134
and I'm like, that's a very

744
00:25:55,235 --> 00:25:57,255
old view of me. I was

745
00:25:57,634 --> 00:26:00,115
thinner, younger, and sitting in front of a

746
00:26:00,115 --> 00:26:00,615
fireplace.

747
00:26:00,995 --> 00:26:01,495
Right.

748
00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:03,990
Several years ago.

749
00:26:04,369 --> 00:26:07,190
And and, you know, then then we moved

750
00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:09,009
where we are now, and and this has

751
00:26:09,009 --> 00:26:11,349
been Mhmm. We bought this house

752
00:26:11,650 --> 00:26:13,970
primarily for this office that we are in.

753
00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:15,555
In yeah. Mhmm. Yep.

754
00:26:16,174 --> 00:26:18,015
So Yep. Yeah. We had we had looked

755
00:26:18,015 --> 00:26:19,315
at a lot of houses.

756
00:26:20,734 --> 00:26:24,255
Yeah. And this one was We walked into

757
00:26:24,255 --> 00:26:26,815
this room and went, oh, this is it.

758
00:26:26,815 --> 00:26:28,654
And then we realized we had this decent

759
00:26:28,654 --> 00:26:31,259
sized backyard, and there was the it was

760
00:26:31,259 --> 00:26:32,859
a a garden shed at the time, but

761
00:26:32,859 --> 00:26:33,600
we were like,

762
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:35,200
Uh-huh.

763
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,320
Uh-huh. Yep. So

764
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,320
yeah. And then

765
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:42,619
we'll kinda get into this because we have

766
00:26:42,619 --> 00:26:44,400
a section on the future. Mhmm.

767
00:26:45,744 --> 00:26:48,144
But we we have been we haven't talked

768
00:26:48,144 --> 00:26:49,184
about it in the past couple weeks but

769
00:26:49,184 --> 00:26:50,565
for a while, we were

770
00:26:51,024 --> 00:26:52,865
doing some serious talking about we want to

771
00:26:52,865 --> 00:26:53,684
change our,

772
00:26:54,704 --> 00:26:56,784
video setup. We still have to be in

773
00:26:56,784 --> 00:26:59,099
this room because this is the room we

774
00:26:59,099 --> 00:27:00,940
have Yeah. At least for right now. I

775
00:27:00,940 --> 00:27:02,880
don't think I'd wanna use the oldest,

776
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:05,740
bedroom because this, like, shares a wall with

777
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:08,059
the youngest bedroom. Right. And this is still

778
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:10,460
they can still hear shit. I've just had

779
00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:10,934
to

780
00:27:11,495 --> 00:27:13,654
go, I'm here for questions if you've got

781
00:27:13,654 --> 00:27:14,154
them.

782
00:27:14,775 --> 00:27:16,375
They're they're at the age of I just

783
00:27:16,375 --> 00:27:18,455
like to pretend I didn't hear you say

784
00:27:18,455 --> 00:27:20,055
all of those things you just said while

785
00:27:20,055 --> 00:27:20,955
I was in the kitchen.

786
00:27:22,295 --> 00:27:24,559
But so we've talked about how we want

787
00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:27,980
to update, you know, how we sit, our

788
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:31,200
background Yeah. What we wanna use for streaming.

789
00:27:31,339 --> 00:27:33,579
We can't update the camera because those are

790
00:27:33,579 --> 00:27:35,740
too damn expensive. Right now, that's that's out

791
00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:37,884
of the question. But, you know, we we've

792
00:27:37,884 --> 00:27:38,945
been talking about

793
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:40,285
some time now these,

794
00:27:41,565 --> 00:27:42,684
these chairs have,

795
00:27:43,164 --> 00:27:43,664
outlived

796
00:27:45,244 --> 00:27:46,865
their usefulness and comfort.

797
00:27:47,164 --> 00:27:48,924
They were never comfortable. No. Not really. They

798
00:27:48,924 --> 00:27:50,065
were cheap for Ikea.

799
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:51,740
Yeah. Nearly

800
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,019
maybe everything in this office?

801
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,359
Nearly everything in this office is Ikea. There's

802
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,279
a couple things that aren't. But your desk

803
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:01,480
is, I think, the only

804
00:28:02,994 --> 00:28:04,274
I can count things. We could do a

805
00:28:04,274 --> 00:28:06,434
whole inventory. But no. But yeah. Pretty much.

806
00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,115
Like, this desk we're sitting at Mhmm. The

807
00:28:08,115 --> 00:28:09,875
chair the uncomfortable chair. But it was like

808
00:28:09,875 --> 00:28:11,894
a $20 chair. Yeah. You know?

809
00:28:12,355 --> 00:28:14,994
We for audio listeners, we're like, okay. What

810
00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:17,494
you gonna do for us? For everybody, we

811
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:20,070
have never pinpointed what the hell is going

812
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:21,850
on with sound quality. Right.

813
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:25,750
Mic cord, whatever these mics are, like, several

814
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:27,930
years old. We have talked about maybe

815
00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:30,970
upgrading the mics or just replacing the mics.

816
00:28:32,384 --> 00:28:34,805
So I mean, the yeah. The the scratchiness,

817
00:28:35,025 --> 00:28:36,224
I don't know. Never

818
00:28:36,785 --> 00:28:38,865
find it. I I have replaced these cables

819
00:28:38,865 --> 00:28:41,285
numerous times. Mhmm. I've even switched,

820
00:28:43,184 --> 00:28:45,525
channels on the soundboard. Mhmm.

821
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:49,269
And it's not a constant. No. It's just

822
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:49,769
a

823
00:28:50,309 --> 00:28:50,970
a blippy

824
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:52,309
here and there. It's the,

825
00:28:53,109 --> 00:28:54,250
it's our little gremlin.

826
00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:59,049
Well, from one chaos gremlin to another,

827
00:29:00,470 --> 00:29:03,984
read the fucking room. Okay? Little scratchy gremlin

828
00:29:04,045 --> 00:29:04,545
sound.

829
00:29:07,085 --> 00:29:07,585
What

830
00:29:09,244 --> 00:29:10,464
else? What else?

831
00:29:13,330 --> 00:29:14,769
I don't know. That's kind of it. I

832
00:29:14,769 --> 00:29:16,130
mean, as far as the the, you know,

833
00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:18,130
evolution to where we are now Mhmm. You

834
00:29:18,130 --> 00:29:20,369
know, but I I am looking forward to

835
00:29:20,369 --> 00:29:21,190
seeing what,

836
00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:23,970
you know, we'll come up with to change.

837
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:27,015
I'm definitely looking forward to come more comfortable

838
00:29:27,234 --> 00:29:29,494
chair. Yeah. And, you know,

839
00:29:29,875 --> 00:29:31,414
I am I think

840
00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:34,595
we need a refresh. Like, sometimes life has

841
00:29:34,595 --> 00:29:37,335
forced a refresh because we've literally changed locations.

842
00:29:37,714 --> 00:29:38,194
Right.

843
00:29:39,075 --> 00:29:40,775
But now Yeah. You know.

844
00:29:41,419 --> 00:29:43,599
And and that's part of why we've also,

845
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:46,480
been thrifting a little bit, you know,

846
00:29:47,099 --> 00:29:49,039
hoping to find something that,

847
00:29:49,819 --> 00:29:52,079
appeals and is functional and

848
00:29:52,539 --> 00:29:53,839
Worth the money. Yeah.

849
00:29:54,424 --> 00:29:56,505
Yep. Yeah. Our days of just going to

850
00:29:56,505 --> 00:29:59,065
IKEA and going, I want that. I want

851
00:29:59,065 --> 00:30:00,825
that. And then getting on the floor to

852
00:30:00,825 --> 00:30:01,565
build it.

853
00:30:02,105 --> 00:30:05,304
No. No. We we will thrift. Mhmm. And

854
00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:07,384
so that what the fun part about that

855
00:30:07,384 --> 00:30:09,144
is, you know, when we find it, it'll

856
00:30:09,144 --> 00:30:10,839
be a pleasant surprise, and it'll probably be

857
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:12,460
a little quirky and a little fun.

858
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,839
Because if it's not gonna be comfy and

859
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,619
it's gonna be something we wanna sit for

860
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:18,380
a couple of hours at a time,

861
00:30:18,919 --> 00:30:20,460
you know, talking to one another,

862
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:21,819
then so,

863
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:25,924
I came across it was a single chair,

864
00:30:26,784 --> 00:30:28,304
that didn't actually look like it would be

865
00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:30,325
very comfortable overall, but it was cute.

866
00:30:30,784 --> 00:30:32,224
But then I looked at the price tag,

867
00:30:32,224 --> 00:30:33,505
and I went, oh, that's right. This is

868
00:30:33,505 --> 00:30:36,144
an antique store, not a thrift store. Yep.

869
00:30:36,144 --> 00:30:37,744
Nope. Yeah. Let me get my ass out

870
00:30:37,744 --> 00:30:39,059
of here. Yeah. It was

871
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:42,180
cute though. So,

872
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:43,779
how

873
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,259
I know what you've told me privately, but

874
00:30:46,259 --> 00:30:48,759
I'll so you share what you wanna share.

875
00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:49,720
How

876
00:30:51,865 --> 00:30:54,904
have you felt and maybe grown or not

877
00:30:54,904 --> 00:30:55,404
grown

878
00:30:55,865 --> 00:30:56,365
comfortable

879
00:30:57,224 --> 00:30:59,484
with this whole like in 2015,

880
00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:02,585
the thing was, hey, I wanna start this

881
00:31:02,585 --> 00:31:04,664
podcast. I wanna like talk about these things,

882
00:31:04,664 --> 00:31:07,029
but I don't know how to edit and

883
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:08,230
I don't really wanna know I got too

884
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:10,150
much going on. Would you be willing to

885
00:31:10,150 --> 00:31:11,990
be my tech support and do the editing

886
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:12,730
for me?

887
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:14,869
That's all I need from you. That's the

888
00:31:14,869 --> 00:31:16,809
only time commitment. Well, clearly.

889
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:20,954
And you were not, you know, immediately none

890
00:31:20,954 --> 00:31:22,714
of I don't think anybody is ever immediately

891
00:31:22,714 --> 00:31:25,275
comfortable, like, recording your own damn voice. But

892
00:31:25,275 --> 00:31:28,255
I know you were not initially comfortable. No.

893
00:31:31,035 --> 00:31:33,434
Ten years on, where where are you at

894
00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:34,174
with that?

895
00:31:37,579 --> 00:31:39,659
I'm a lot more comfortable with it, you

896
00:31:39,659 --> 00:31:40,159
know.

897
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:43,099
There was a time, you know, you put

898
00:31:43,099 --> 00:31:44,619
me in front of the mic and I'm

899
00:31:45,339 --> 00:31:47,279
you want me to talk? What?

900
00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:48,899
Mhmm. When I when I let you have

901
00:31:48,899 --> 00:31:50,539
a mic, there were years where people were

902
00:31:50,539 --> 00:31:52,434
like, could you please let JB, like, get

903
00:31:52,434 --> 00:31:53,875
in front of the mic or have his

904
00:31:53,875 --> 00:31:54,375
own?

905
00:31:55,954 --> 00:31:56,454
Yeah.

906
00:31:58,835 --> 00:31:59,154
And,

907
00:32:00,115 --> 00:32:00,774
you know,

908
00:32:01,714 --> 00:32:04,669
I started getting comfortable with that. Mhmm. Audio

909
00:32:04,669 --> 00:32:07,230
only. And then you fucking sprung video on

910
00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:08,910
me. You know? Because I had this, like

911
00:32:09,069 --> 00:32:10,750
I I was sort of trying to chase

912
00:32:10,750 --> 00:32:12,509
the, oh, can we grow? How many more

913
00:32:12,509 --> 00:32:14,109
people can I reach? Which there's nothing wrong

914
00:32:14,109 --> 00:32:16,609
with reaching more people, but it was this,

915
00:32:17,789 --> 00:32:17,917
view from a content creator standpoint, not necessarily,

916
00:32:17,917 --> 00:32:18,509
like, community and, like, chatting that wasn't from

917
00:32:18,509 --> 00:32:19,009
that.

918
00:32:20,684 --> 00:32:22,924
Standpoint, not necessarily, like, community and, like, chatting

919
00:32:22,924 --> 00:32:25,164
that wasn't from that standpoint. And so I

920
00:32:25,164 --> 00:32:26,605
was like, where can we be? What can

921
00:32:26,605 --> 00:32:28,765
we do? Right. But I'm not doing double

922
00:32:28,765 --> 00:32:30,444
work. So if I record it once, we

923
00:32:30,444 --> 00:32:32,045
gotta find a way to use it twice.

924
00:32:32,045 --> 00:32:32,545
Twice.

925
00:32:33,005 --> 00:32:34,545
And and, you know, I've

926
00:32:35,049 --> 00:32:35,549
become

927
00:32:36,089 --> 00:32:38,330
much more comfortable with all of it. Mhmm.

928
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:38,830
Obviously.

929
00:32:39,769 --> 00:32:41,690
The one thing that has not changed in

930
00:32:41,690 --> 00:32:42,430
ten years

931
00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:45,230
and probably will not ever change,

932
00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:47,869
I still cannot listen to my voice.

933
00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:50,204
Yeah. I've after all these years, I'm used

934
00:32:50,204 --> 00:32:52,204
to hearing mine. I I I can't. And

935
00:32:52,204 --> 00:32:53,884
yet you have a voice that not everybody,

936
00:32:53,884 --> 00:32:56,204
obviously, but some people really like to listen

937
00:32:56,204 --> 00:32:57,884
to. Like, you've got, like, one of those,

938
00:32:57,884 --> 00:32:59,025
like it's not

939
00:32:59,484 --> 00:33:02,460
unless you're making it overly growly and, like,

940
00:33:02,859 --> 00:33:05,179
sexy. It's mostly just like this nice soothing

941
00:33:05,419 --> 00:33:07,500
Mhmm. Voice. I mean, you know, it's like

942
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:08,799
I'm I'm reading the

943
00:33:09,419 --> 00:33:11,099
the stories Mhmm. You know, for our Patreon.

944
00:33:11,259 --> 00:33:11,759
Patreon.

945
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:13,019
And,

946
00:33:14,539 --> 00:33:16,815
I I guess people like it, but

947
00:33:17,774 --> 00:33:19,934
it would be an editing hell for me

948
00:33:19,934 --> 00:33:21,934
to have to listen to it. Yeah. That

949
00:33:21,934 --> 00:33:23,615
was the agreement. He would read the stories.

950
00:33:23,615 --> 00:33:25,075
He would record himself reading,

951
00:33:25,615 --> 00:33:27,294
but I had I had to learn how

952
00:33:27,294 --> 00:33:29,214
to use the edit the Audacity and learn

953
00:33:29,214 --> 00:33:30,974
how to edit them. And and I go

954
00:33:30,974 --> 00:33:33,950
a little I'm a little power crazy with

955
00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:35,950
the edit, but I'm like, oh, I can

956
00:33:35,950 --> 00:33:38,269
I can splice and dice? Like, there are

957
00:33:38,269 --> 00:33:40,269
times because it happens to anybody who's reading

958
00:33:40,269 --> 00:33:41,630
out loud and, you know, this is not

959
00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:44,429
something he's doing, like, professionally, like, you know,

960
00:33:44,429 --> 00:33:46,029
so and he's new. We've only been doing

961
00:33:46,029 --> 00:33:47,755
it a few months where, you know, sometimes

962
00:33:47,755 --> 00:33:48,974
you you kind of

963
00:33:49,755 --> 00:33:51,195
when I say you, I mean the general

964
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:52,714
you, anybody who has to read out loud,

965
00:33:52,714 --> 00:33:55,115
there's a little a slight stumbling over words.

966
00:33:55,115 --> 00:33:56,015
Well, I learned

967
00:33:56,394 --> 00:33:59,434
where because the editing can be finessed enough,

968
00:33:59,434 --> 00:34:01,779
I splice out and you and you just

969
00:34:01,779 --> 00:34:03,220
sound like you just said it like it

970
00:34:03,379 --> 00:34:04,599
I was like, damn.

971
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:06,519
It was

972
00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:12,019
Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm the power. I

973
00:34:12,019 --> 00:34:13,295
don't know if I should have that kind

974
00:34:13,295 --> 00:34:15,295
of control. Yeah. Well, you know, it it's

975
00:34:15,295 --> 00:34:15,795
funny

976
00:34:16,494 --> 00:34:16,994
because

977
00:34:17,775 --> 00:34:20,414
when you first approached me with this whole

978
00:34:20,414 --> 00:34:22,675
podcast thing Whole podcast thing. Yeah. You know,

979
00:34:23,055 --> 00:34:25,075
and and I was doing the editing,

980
00:34:27,389 --> 00:34:29,389
I was doing the same thing. I was

981
00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:31,469
editing down to a with a fine tooth

982
00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:33,329
comb, boy, and and just, you know,

983
00:34:34,510 --> 00:34:35,869
for what you could do with what we

984
00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:36,849
had at that time.

985
00:34:39,094 --> 00:34:40,234
And, you know, as

986
00:34:40,614 --> 00:34:42,614
more and more people as we, you know,

987
00:34:42,614 --> 00:34:44,614
progressed that we were doing, you know, video

988
00:34:44,614 --> 00:34:46,534
and then live stream And longer episodes. Longer

989
00:34:46,534 --> 00:34:49,335
episodes and and, you know, people are like,

990
00:34:49,335 --> 00:34:50,934
you know, no, we we enjoy we like

991
00:34:50,934 --> 00:34:52,949
it, but, you know, we like hearing I

992
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:54,010
started started

993
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:56,710
editing less than that. Editing became less stressful

994
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:57,989
for you. That's why I make the joke.

995
00:34:57,989 --> 00:34:59,589
If we were professionals, we'd edit some of

996
00:34:59,589 --> 00:35:02,070
this. We don't. We we really don't. Yeah.

997
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,489
We will if we absolutely have to rerecord

998
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:06,329
a podcast intro

999
00:35:07,269 --> 00:35:08,250
usually because

1000
00:35:08,974 --> 00:35:11,855
something that's just like it's too distracting has

1001
00:35:11,855 --> 00:35:13,614
happened or I have just forgotten how to

1002
00:35:13,614 --> 00:35:16,574
speak in mid sentence. Mhmm. But we we

1003
00:35:16,574 --> 00:35:18,015
let it all yeah. We just let the

1004
00:35:18,015 --> 00:35:20,815
flubs Mhmm. Go. Yep. So for anybody who's

1005
00:35:20,815 --> 00:35:21,315
curious,

1006
00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:23,650
the way I am and how I talk

1007
00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:25,890
and how I forget words, oh, yeah. That's

1008
00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:27,489
how I can be in in real life.

1009
00:35:27,489 --> 00:35:29,410
I'm actually sometimes, you know, a lot more

1010
00:35:29,410 --> 00:35:30,630
comfortable in real life

1011
00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:33,809
because I am very aware that there are

1012
00:35:33,809 --> 00:35:35,429
eyes and ears on me.

1013
00:35:35,890 --> 00:35:36,164
And

1014
00:35:36,724 --> 00:35:38,085
And I I have over all these years,

1015
00:35:38,085 --> 00:35:40,085
I've I've never been able to forget that

1016
00:35:40,085 --> 00:35:42,164
I am being watched and listened to. And

1017
00:35:42,164 --> 00:35:44,324
then and I'm very well aware because I

1018
00:35:44,324 --> 00:35:46,085
spend time on the Internet just like a

1019
00:35:46,085 --> 00:35:47,065
lot of y'all do,

1020
00:35:47,445 --> 00:35:49,889
that people who don't know you will interpret

1021
00:35:50,049 --> 00:35:51,889
things. And people who do know you will

1022
00:35:51,889 --> 00:35:52,789
interpret things

1023
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:55,250
ways you didn't that was not your intention,

1024
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:57,010
but that's how they interpreted it. And I'm

1025
00:35:57,010 --> 00:35:57,989
I'm overly

1026
00:35:58,369 --> 00:35:59,750
aware. But the way

1027
00:36:00,210 --> 00:36:01,670
this, all this awkwardness,

1028
00:36:01,969 --> 00:36:03,045
you get that in real life

1029
00:36:04,964 --> 00:36:06,184
too. It's not a show.

1030
00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:08,565
It's as realistic as I know how to

1031
00:36:08,565 --> 00:36:09,065
be.

1032
00:36:11,684 --> 00:36:13,704
So we've been talking about

1033
00:36:14,724 --> 00:36:17,190
over the past several months, like, how our

1034
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:18,789
relationship is going, what we're doing with our

1035
00:36:18,789 --> 00:36:19,289
relationship.

1036
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:22,730
Just to give some context in

1037
00:36:24,309 --> 00:36:26,089
in the evolution of our relationship

1038
00:36:26,469 --> 00:36:27,769
alongside the podcast,

1039
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:29,130
we had actually

1040
00:36:29,555 --> 00:36:30,055
only

1041
00:36:30,595 --> 00:36:32,835
lived together a little bit over a year

1042
00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:34,835
Mhmm. When I said I wanna do the

1043
00:36:34,835 --> 00:36:37,474
podcast. We'd only been together about two and

1044
00:36:37,474 --> 00:36:38,055
a half,

1045
00:36:38,755 --> 00:36:40,914
three years at that point. Oh, we were

1046
00:36:40,914 --> 00:36:42,835
closing in on three years Yeah. When we

1047
00:36:42,835 --> 00:36:43,894
started it. Yeah.

1048
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,240
Yeah. Because we yeah. Because we we weren't

1049
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,700
you weren't doing anything

1050
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,519
when we were in the apartment. No. Yeah.

1051
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,320
It wasn't Could have even if we wanted

1052
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480
to. Wasn't on my radar at all. Yeah.

1053
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:56,980
No.

1054
00:36:59,574 --> 00:37:01,894
And so anybody who has either gone through

1055
00:37:01,894 --> 00:37:03,255
the archive or has been here the whole

1056
00:37:03,255 --> 00:37:05,515
time, you will probably have heard an evolution

1057
00:37:05,815 --> 00:37:06,934
in our relationship

1058
00:37:07,414 --> 00:37:09,735
Mhmm. And how, you know, what we talk

1059
00:37:09,735 --> 00:37:11,195
about in terms of our relationship,

1060
00:37:12,219 --> 00:37:13,599
how we talk to one another.

1061
00:37:15,820 --> 00:37:16,320
I

1062
00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:19,760
do think I have over time become

1063
00:37:20,619 --> 00:37:22,480
a lot more relaxed.

1064
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:24,860
I've I've always been relaxed too. That's at

1065
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:26,780
a certain point of the new newness of

1066
00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:28,724
our relationship kind of of wearing off and

1067
00:37:28,724 --> 00:37:30,565
the newness of living together wearing off. Like,

1068
00:37:30,565 --> 00:37:32,904
I've always been relaxed, but the sass,

1069
00:37:33,284 --> 00:37:34,344
the look.

1070
00:37:34,885 --> 00:37:35,625
I am

1071
00:37:36,244 --> 00:37:38,184
there are two times I'm very sassy.

1072
00:37:38,885 --> 00:37:39,385
When

1073
00:37:40,110 --> 00:37:42,750
I think I'm fucking hilarious. So that that

1074
00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:44,990
can be anytime. Y'all are here. We're in

1075
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:47,309
the bed. Just the two of us. I

1076
00:37:47,309 --> 00:37:49,410
am I'm cracking myself up.

1077
00:37:50,110 --> 00:37:51,650
Sassy city. Okay?

1078
00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:55,454
But the second time after all these years

1079
00:37:55,454 --> 00:37:57,775
is when I know somebody else watching or

1080
00:37:57,775 --> 00:37:59,635
listening. Well, they guess why?

1081
00:38:01,454 --> 00:38:04,335
I have an audience for the sass that

1082
00:38:04,335 --> 00:38:06,514
amuses me. Let's go.

1083
00:38:07,855 --> 00:38:08,670
I do think

1084
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:11,389
I grew into that over time. It does,

1085
00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:13,150
though, mean that a lot of people who

1086
00:38:13,150 --> 00:38:15,549
randomly come across us and then clearly decide

1087
00:38:15,549 --> 00:38:16,690
we're not their people,

1088
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:20,429
are not impressed with my sassiness. They, they

1089
00:38:20,429 --> 00:38:21,409
are not fans.

1090
00:38:23,594 --> 00:38:24,394
Nope. Nope.

1091
00:38:26,074 --> 00:38:28,474
For all that obviously I do most of

1092
00:38:28,474 --> 00:38:30,014
the talking on this podcast,

1093
00:38:31,114 --> 00:38:32,635
for the rando that just showed up and

1094
00:38:32,635 --> 00:38:34,414
don't know us, yes. I am the submissive.

1095
00:38:34,954 --> 00:38:36,949
JB has never felt like he had to

1096
00:38:36,949 --> 00:38:39,909
say more words than me in order to

1097
00:38:39,909 --> 00:38:40,889
be the dominant.

1098
00:38:42,869 --> 00:38:44,069
But it's mostly, like

1099
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:45,210
so

1100
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:47,690
let me back up to give the analogy.

1101
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:49,929
Mhmm. In the kinkery thekinkery.com,

1102
00:38:50,424 --> 00:38:52,505
we work it together. We each have our

1103
00:38:52,505 --> 00:38:54,264
own roles, but in my mind, that is

1104
00:38:54,264 --> 00:38:55,244
your shop.

1105
00:38:55,784 --> 00:38:57,545
Yeah. And I never thought of it this

1106
00:38:57,545 --> 00:38:59,224
way till we had the kinkery, but the

1107
00:38:59,224 --> 00:38:59,724
podcast

1108
00:39:00,025 --> 00:39:01,704
and the community and all, it works the

1109
00:39:01,704 --> 00:39:03,469
same way. We each have our roles to

1110
00:39:03,469 --> 00:39:06,109
play with this podcast, the live streams, Patreon,

1111
00:39:06,109 --> 00:39:06,609
but

1112
00:39:07,309 --> 00:39:08,849
it's treated like it's

1113
00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:10,750
my thing. Now I don't like to call

1114
00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:13,469
that. It is our thing. But JB has

1115
00:39:13,469 --> 00:39:15,684
always been a type of partner, and we

1116
00:39:15,684 --> 00:39:17,125
do this for one another. I have to

1117
00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:18,425
push him into a spotlight.

1118
00:39:18,804 --> 00:39:20,405
He is really good at taking a step

1119
00:39:20,405 --> 00:39:22,984
back and just letting me do a thing

1120
00:39:23,125 --> 00:39:24,724
that I'm passionate about, that I'm good at,

1121
00:39:24,724 --> 00:39:26,724
that whatever whatever. And then he'll just kind

1122
00:39:26,724 --> 00:39:28,484
of support me in the way that's right

1123
00:39:28,484 --> 00:39:30,539
for him. So if there's ever anybody who's

1124
00:39:30,539 --> 00:39:32,300
like, JB doesn't talk very much because JB

1125
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,700
don't wanna talk very much. Okay? When JB

1126
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:35,420
wants to talk

1127
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:37,180
When I have something to say, I'll say

1128
00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:37,680
it.

1129
00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:43,744
I made this comment of several episodes ago.

1130
00:39:43,744 --> 00:39:45,204
It's probably been a few months ago.

1131
00:39:46,065 --> 00:39:48,005
I don't remember what the top the the

1132
00:39:48,065 --> 00:39:49,765
podcast episode was about.

1133
00:39:50,465 --> 00:39:50,965
But,

1134
00:39:51,824 --> 00:39:53,125
I think I was, like,

1135
00:39:53,425 --> 00:39:55,605
in my feelings about, you know, the criticism

1136
00:39:55,664 --> 00:39:57,769
that comes with how much I fucking talk.

1137
00:39:58,869 --> 00:40:01,349
And I was, like, y'all, if JB was

1138
00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:03,050
doing this and it was JB,

1139
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:05,530
it's a ten minute podcast.

1140
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:06,809
Yeah.

1141
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:10,070
And that is not a criticism. It's just

1142
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:12,444
a difference between the two of us. I

1143
00:40:12,444 --> 00:40:14,525
am finally It's a red flag. You need

1144
00:40:14,525 --> 00:40:16,864
to talk about it. Right. And he's done.

1145
00:40:17,005 --> 00:40:17,824
No context.

1146
00:40:18,125 --> 00:40:20,545
No examples. He's not repeating himself.

1147
00:40:21,164 --> 00:40:22,844
That's it. If you got it the first

1148
00:40:22,844 --> 00:40:25,105
time, great. If you didn't, sucks to suck.

1149
00:40:25,644 --> 00:40:27,679
But we balance each other out because I'm

1150
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,000
a tell you five times until you're like,

1151
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,679
please, I I got it. I got it

1152
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,299
the fourth time you said it.

1153
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:35,619
So

1154
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:37,940
we we compliment one another.

1155
00:40:38,684 --> 00:40:41,505
Yes. Yes. The one thing that we have,

1156
00:40:42,684 --> 00:40:45,164
consistently over the years I say we. I

1157
00:40:45,164 --> 00:40:47,105
have consistently over the years gotten,

1158
00:40:48,125 --> 00:40:49,105
critique for,

1159
00:40:49,805 --> 00:40:52,250
and it's it's fair. It's a fair critique

1160
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:53,449
because I'm always like, oh my god. I

1161
00:40:53,449 --> 00:40:55,789
can't believe I did that. It's interrupting you.

1162
00:40:56,570 --> 00:40:58,250
Now what you have to realize is in

1163
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:59,710
our relationship and this

1164
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:01,710
is our relationship

1165
00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:03,849
on display. The way I talk to JB

1166
00:41:03,849 --> 00:41:05,324
here is how I talk to him y'all.

1167
00:41:06,364 --> 00:41:08,364
If he does not like me interrupting, he

1168
00:41:08,364 --> 00:41:09,984
will tell me so.

1169
00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:13,644
Okay? He's like, uh-uh. You interrupted me. Stop.

1170
00:41:13,644 --> 00:41:15,184
I have something to say. Right?

1171
00:41:15,644 --> 00:41:17,639
So I I think it's sweet that y'all

1172
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:19,579
y'all are offended on his behalf.

1173
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:22,839
I am I am mortified when I go

1174
00:41:22,839 --> 00:41:24,519
back and I'm like listening or watching or

1175
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:26,119
whatever. I'm like, oh my god. I just

1176
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:27,739
stopped him in mid thought.

1177
00:41:28,839 --> 00:41:31,239
It doesn't always look like it, but I

1178
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,019
try to be more mindful of that.

1179
00:41:33,444 --> 00:41:35,304
You have been. I you have. Mhmm.

1180
00:41:35,764 --> 00:41:38,164
Mhmm. Because there are there are many people

1181
00:41:38,244 --> 00:41:39,764
they're not here for me. They might be

1182
00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:41,684
here for the sass and the humor. They

1183
00:41:41,684 --> 00:41:43,224
wanna hear what you gotta say.

1184
00:41:43,525 --> 00:41:44,424
And I want

1185
00:41:45,125 --> 00:41:47,239
to figure out how I can make JB

1186
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,000
say more than a 100 words in an

1187
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,900
hour. Okay?

1188
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,739
I'm working on it.

1189
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,859
Okay. So

1190
00:42:01,195 --> 00:42:03,275
where was I going? Okay. Is there anything

1191
00:42:03,275 --> 00:42:05,114
else you wanna say about the the build

1192
00:42:05,114 --> 00:42:06,875
up to us getting here and here we

1193
00:42:06,875 --> 00:42:08,875
are ten years later? No. Okay. So now

1194
00:42:08,875 --> 00:42:10,875
we're gonna do what we do. I put

1195
00:42:10,875 --> 00:42:12,430
out I put it out several places,

1196
00:42:12,809 --> 00:42:15,130
but it's summertime and there's not usually a

1197
00:42:15,130 --> 00:42:17,470
lot of, like, movement on social media.

1198
00:42:17,849 --> 00:42:19,369
It's I'm used to it after all these

1199
00:42:19,369 --> 00:42:20,730
years. That is a thing I have grown

1200
00:42:20,730 --> 00:42:21,789
used to mostly.

1201
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:23,849
So I didn't expect to get, like, a

1202
00:42:23,849 --> 00:42:24,349
million

1203
00:42:25,744 --> 00:42:26,244
questions,

1204
00:42:27,105 --> 00:42:28,545
which is why I was like, let's piece

1205
00:42:28,545 --> 00:42:30,144
together a whole show. But I did over

1206
00:42:30,144 --> 00:42:32,144
on Instagram. I did on YouTube. I did

1207
00:42:32,144 --> 00:42:33,344
on felt life. I was like, hey. You

1208
00:42:33,344 --> 00:42:35,825
got a question? You know, go ahead and

1209
00:42:35,825 --> 00:42:36,644
ask it.

1210
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,699
We'll we'll answer them during this episode.

1211
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,500
So this is us doing what we do.

1212
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:45,199
See? See how, like, there's a whole pattern

1213
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,219
here. Wow. I actually tried to work.

1214
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,739
Almost professional.

1215
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:50,980
Fascinating. I know. First question.

1216
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:51,859
Mhmm.

1217
00:42:52,775 --> 00:42:55,015
What is one thing you fell in love

1218
00:42:55,015 --> 00:42:56,635
with when you first met

1219
00:42:57,094 --> 00:42:59,255
the other, and what is your favorite thing

1220
00:42:59,255 --> 00:43:00,715
now about each other?

1221
00:43:01,335 --> 00:43:02,215
I think the,

1222
00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:04,715
the thing that

1223
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:07,699
really

1224
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,199
got me was,

1225
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:11,300
how supportive

1226
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,300
you were on so many things.

1227
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,000
Yeah. I I remember some surprises where you

1228
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,039
were like, what do you what are you

1229
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:19,425
doing? I'm like, I'm Right. Supporting you. That's

1230
00:43:19,425 --> 00:43:20,864
what we do here. And,

1231
00:43:21,985 --> 00:43:23,664
you know, yeah. That's that's what,

1232
00:43:25,585 --> 00:43:27,925
that's how you hooked me in. I did.

1233
00:43:28,385 --> 00:43:29,045
I did.

1234
00:43:29,425 --> 00:43:30,644
And, now

1235
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,739
I tell you the one the one thing

1236
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,739
I think about

1237
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:36,780
the most

1238
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:38,300
with us right now

1239
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,619
is when we are

1240
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,059
in bed at night

1241
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,660
and we're done reading.

1242
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,119
We've put our phones down. We've put our

1243
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,275
devices down. All devices are down,

1244
00:43:50,094 --> 00:43:50,594
and

1245
00:43:51,775 --> 00:43:53,954
you can make me fucking laugh.

1246
00:43:56,014 --> 00:43:57,934
I'm always very proud of myself for that.

1247
00:43:57,934 --> 00:43:59,934
To to no end, and and I love

1248
00:43:59,934 --> 00:44:00,894
that because it

1249
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:02,739
I I need that.

1250
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,380
You get very much in your head. Yeah.

1251
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,719
Very much in your feels. Mhmm. And I

1252
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,440
cannot stand for you to be unhappy, so

1253
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,375
I will be as silly as I have

1254
00:44:15,375 --> 00:44:18,114
to be so that I can enjoy. You

1255
00:44:18,255 --> 00:44:19,315
you you get that

1256
00:44:20,094 --> 00:44:20,594
goofy

1257
00:44:21,054 --> 00:44:23,715
silliness. It's it's like a a bedtime

1258
00:44:24,494 --> 00:44:24,994
zoomie

1259
00:44:25,775 --> 00:44:27,775
without, you know, running around, but it's all

1260
00:44:27,775 --> 00:44:28,015
in the

1261
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:29,860
there's some physical, like

1262
00:44:30,579 --> 00:44:31,800
Well, yeah.

1263
00:44:32,739 --> 00:44:35,860
Chaos. Yeah. Look. Look. Look. And I'm so

1264
00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:37,239
this is what happens when

1265
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:39,780
you your dominant is also a sadist and

1266
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:41,539
not just still, like, a physical sadist, but,

1267
00:44:41,539 --> 00:44:42,679
like, a mental, emotional,

1268
00:44:43,034 --> 00:44:45,194
consensually sadist. I'm gonna say a thing and

1269
00:44:45,194 --> 00:44:46,635
he's gonna remember this and I'm gonna pay

1270
00:44:46,635 --> 00:44:47,454
for this later.

1271
00:44:47,914 --> 00:44:49,375
But this is what we do here.

1272
00:44:49,914 --> 00:44:50,414
So

1273
00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:53,434
yes. A lot of the Zoomies are verbal.

1274
00:44:53,434 --> 00:44:54,655
It's my mind like

1275
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,400
ping ponging left, right, and center. But some

1276
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,099
of those Zoomies are physical

1277
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,860
They are. Yeah. Because,

1278
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,360
JB will put his arm and, like, hold

1279
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,519
me down, and I fucking love being pinned

1280
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:10,255
down. Like, pinned me down the great dickening

1281
00:45:10,315 --> 00:45:11,614
from several weeks ago.

1282
00:45:11,914 --> 00:45:14,795
He started by pinning me down. It was

1283
00:45:14,795 --> 00:45:15,614
so good.

1284
00:45:17,195 --> 00:45:17,934
And so

1285
00:45:19,434 --> 00:45:21,614
this is this is my sass.

1286
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,219
I do not claim the brat label.

1287
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:26,840
I could see where you could squint your

1288
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,359
eyes and call this bratty, but I'm being

1289
00:45:28,359 --> 00:45:28,859
sassy.

1290
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,219
Is I will absolutely physically get chaotic

1291
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:35,864
in hopes that he will pin me down.

1292
00:45:35,864 --> 00:45:37,385
And when he doesn't, I

1293
00:45:38,105 --> 00:45:39,324
it just get worse.

1294
00:45:40,265 --> 00:45:42,505
I just get worse. Now if he said

1295
00:45:42,505 --> 00:45:44,184
to me Why don't you love me? Why

1296
00:45:44,184 --> 00:45:45,945
don't you love me? Love me, you'd pin

1297
00:45:45,945 --> 00:45:47,244
me down. You'd pin me down.

1298
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:52,389
Now if he were to say, baby girl,

1299
00:45:52,389 --> 00:45:52,889
stop.

1300
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:54,650
I'm a stop. I'm

1301
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:56,949
I'm a good girl. I'm a stop. But

1302
00:45:56,949 --> 00:46:00,409
until he does, I'm going to just flop

1303
00:46:00,949 --> 00:46:02,969
like a fish out of water

1304
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:05,905
until I am pinned the fuck

1305
00:46:06,204 --> 00:46:06,704
down.

1306
00:46:08,125 --> 00:46:10,144
And now that I've, like, said that publicly,

1307
00:46:10,605 --> 00:46:12,684
he'll he either just won't do it or

1308
00:46:12,684 --> 00:46:14,204
he'll just tell me to stop moving because

1309
00:46:14,204 --> 00:46:15,565
I said I would stop moving if he

1310
00:46:15,565 --> 00:46:17,244
told me to stop moving. And I won't

1311
00:46:17,244 --> 00:46:19,485
get pinned for, like, a week until I,

1312
00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:22,260
like, get real sad about not being pinned

1313
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:24,639
because that's the sadist. I'm like, oh, not

1314
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:27,760
all pain is physical pain. Okay? No. No.

1315
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,500
No. No.

1316
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,380
So,

1317
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,239
so, one of the things I fell in

1318
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,715
love,

1319
00:46:33,195 --> 00:46:33,934
with you,

1320
00:46:36,315 --> 00:46:36,815
it's,

1321
00:46:37,594 --> 00:46:39,275
I can't just say one because it's all

1322
00:46:39,275 --> 00:46:40,635
tied together. Mhmm.

1323
00:46:41,035 --> 00:46:44,235
Your openness and communication and your steadiness. There

1324
00:46:44,235 --> 00:46:44,974
was no

1325
00:46:45,675 --> 00:46:47,940
bullshit. Shit. I'm a be quiet. I'm a

1326
00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:50,099
drift away. I'm like, there were none of

1327
00:46:50,099 --> 00:46:52,779
those mind games that sometimes get played Mhmm.

1328
00:46:53,139 --> 00:46:56,260
Between, you know, new newish partners in that

1329
00:46:56,260 --> 00:46:57,239
process. You

1330
00:46:57,699 --> 00:46:59,914
you were who you said you were. You

1331
00:46:59,914 --> 00:47:02,155
did what you said you would do. Mhmm.

1332
00:47:02,155 --> 00:47:05,034
Like, very quickly, I could I could trust

1333
00:47:05,034 --> 00:47:07,275
your word. And I knew that if if

1334
00:47:07,275 --> 00:47:08,795
I sent the text, if I sent the

1335
00:47:08,795 --> 00:47:10,715
email, if I reached out, you were there.

1336
00:47:10,715 --> 00:47:12,809
There was none of this, like, some of

1337
00:47:12,809 --> 00:47:16,030
that weird bullshit that Wondering if Yeah.

1338
00:47:16,329 --> 00:47:17,849
Yeah. I get it. We did not we

1339
00:47:17,849 --> 00:47:19,369
did not play games like that and you

1340
00:47:19,369 --> 00:47:21,450
just you just showed up as who you

1341
00:47:21,450 --> 00:47:23,849
were. You didn't try to be somebody you're

1342
00:47:23,849 --> 00:47:26,144
not. You weren't trying to, like, you weren't

1343
00:47:26,545 --> 00:47:28,644
purposely trying to just impress me.

1344
00:47:29,344 --> 00:47:31,105
You just you just were and I liked

1345
00:47:31,105 --> 00:47:33,025
who you were. And I liked the fact

1346
00:47:33,025 --> 00:47:34,784
that I could trust that the person in

1347
00:47:34,784 --> 00:47:36,385
email was the same person in text, was

1348
00:47:36,385 --> 00:47:37,905
the same person on the phone, was the

1349
00:47:37,905 --> 00:47:40,690
same person in person. I never had doubts

1350
00:47:40,690 --> 00:47:41,430
about that.

1351
00:47:41,890 --> 00:47:43,110
Okay. Now,

1352
00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:45,809
oh my god. Yeah. There's too many to

1353
00:47:45,809 --> 00:47:47,510
just go, it's my favorite thing now.

1354
00:47:48,210 --> 00:47:49,809
In terms if we're gonna talk in terms

1355
00:47:49,809 --> 00:47:51,890
of what we're doing here, it's the fact

1356
00:47:51,890 --> 00:47:52,390
that

1357
00:47:53,585 --> 00:47:56,005
almost every crazy fucked up idea

1358
00:47:56,304 --> 00:47:56,964
I have

1359
00:47:57,464 --> 00:47:57,964
for,

1360
00:47:58,464 --> 00:47:59,444
you know, professionally,

1361
00:47:59,744 --> 00:48:01,684
you're like, okay, baby girl.

1362
00:48:02,704 --> 00:48:04,545
Okay. I got you. Let's you know, if

1363
00:48:04,545 --> 00:48:05,904
you could figure out how we can do

1364
00:48:05,904 --> 00:48:07,525
it. Okay. Yep.

1365
00:48:08,809 --> 00:48:10,030
But you're you're just

1366
00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:11,710
you are

1367
00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:14,890
probably the most supportive human I've ever had

1368
00:48:14,890 --> 00:48:16,250
in my life. And I don't I didn't

1369
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:18,170
come from a family where I wasn't supported.

1370
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:19,690
Like, I was, you know Mhmm. I it

1371
00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:21,849
was expected that I would excel in things.

1372
00:48:21,849 --> 00:48:23,735
So So I was supported in that way.

1373
00:48:23,735 --> 00:48:24,715
But you like,

1374
00:48:25,414 --> 00:48:27,494
there you it's almost like you don't you

1375
00:48:27,494 --> 00:48:29,815
never doubt me. You might have questions about,

1376
00:48:29,815 --> 00:48:30,315
like,

1377
00:48:30,695 --> 00:48:32,614
how is this gonna work and and what

1378
00:48:32,614 --> 00:48:34,855
what does this take? Like, you you're uncertain

1379
00:48:34,855 --> 00:48:36,454
about the thing. What is this based on?

1380
00:48:36,454 --> 00:48:37,769
But if I come you and go, I

1381
00:48:37,769 --> 00:48:39,369
got an idea. I'd like to try this,

1382
00:48:39,369 --> 00:48:41,130
but you just go. Mhmm. You know, once

1383
00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:42,809
the logistics in your head are kind of

1384
00:48:42,890 --> 00:48:43,949
you're like, okay.

1385
00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:47,130
You're just like completely sub that is how

1386
00:48:47,130 --> 00:48:47,789
you rope

1387
00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,910
your partner into a ten year podcast, y'all.

1388
00:48:51,849 --> 00:48:54,304
You get one that just, you know, fucking

1389
00:48:54,304 --> 00:48:55,525
believes in you

1390
00:48:55,984 --> 00:48:56,484
and

1391
00:48:56,784 --> 00:48:59,025
will go on the wild ride with you.

1392
00:48:59,025 --> 00:48:59,605
You know?

1393
00:49:01,664 --> 00:49:04,244
And that's literally one of many things. Like,

1394
00:49:04,385 --> 00:49:06,065
the fact that you do think I'm funny

1395
00:49:06,065 --> 00:49:07,824
and that I you are my safe person

1396
00:49:07,824 --> 00:49:08,885
and I can be

1397
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,539
the weirdest,

1398
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,559
most real version of myself. There's no mask

1399
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:16,059
with you. There's I I I completely

1400
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:16,940
unmask.

1401
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:17,900
Yeah.

1402
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,960
In a way that I was saying this

1403
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,070
the other day to somebody. I don't like,

1404
00:49:22,485 --> 00:49:24,265
not in the same way like socially

1405
00:49:25,525 --> 00:49:27,605
and with strangers but you know, I wear

1406
00:49:27,605 --> 00:49:29,204
a bit of a mask even as a

1407
00:49:29,204 --> 00:49:30,825
parent. Like there are certain things

1408
00:49:31,365 --> 00:49:33,285
I don't let my kids see. There are

1409
00:49:33,285 --> 00:49:35,465
certain ways I carry myself as

1410
00:49:35,925 --> 00:49:36,585
a parent

1411
00:49:37,739 --> 00:49:39,820
that, you know, it took years for them

1412
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:41,519
to get to see how weird their mother

1413
00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:42,079
was.

1414
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:44,940
Thankfully, kids are, like, really observant. They already

1415
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:46,460
knew I was weird. I think they were

1416
00:49:46,460 --> 00:49:48,719
just happy. I was comfortable showing it.

1417
00:49:51,924 --> 00:49:53,125
But, yeah. Like, you're just

1418
00:49:53,764 --> 00:49:55,525
I can be my whole ass self with

1419
00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:57,144
you. And you're like, yep.

1420
00:49:57,684 --> 00:49:59,364
Yep. I didn't know I was signing up

1421
00:49:59,364 --> 00:50:00,264
for this, but,

1422
00:50:00,565 --> 00:50:02,644
yep. Let's do this. You just I don't

1423
00:50:02,644 --> 00:50:03,144
know.

1424
00:50:04,949 --> 00:50:07,369
Okay. Now we're gonna get into the

1425
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:09,510
help me with things because that's what we

1426
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:10,650
do here, those questions.

1427
00:50:11,590 --> 00:50:13,670
We have answered this in in a a

1428
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:15,429
version of this many times, but it's Mhmm.

1429
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:16,730
It's always worth having

1430
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:19,030
a reminder of our answer for this. Mhmm.

1431
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:21,014
The question is, how does pegging work if

1432
00:50:21,014 --> 00:50:23,175
I'm a sub and my partner has expressed

1433
00:50:23,175 --> 00:50:24,315
interest in being

1434
00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,175
pegged? So the submissive would do the pegging

1435
00:50:27,335 --> 00:50:30,054
Mhmm. For their partner. And the the the

1436
00:50:30,054 --> 00:50:32,054
first thing, and I think that we talked

1437
00:50:32,054 --> 00:50:34,074
to the about that extent in,

1438
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,539
you know, doing it as an act of

1439
00:50:36,539 --> 00:50:37,039
service.

1440
00:50:37,420 --> 00:50:37,920
Yes.

1441
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:39,599
Yes. Because,

1442
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:40,640
inserting

1443
00:50:41,260 --> 00:50:43,360
a toy or a body part in another

1444
00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:45,660
human does not make you the dominant one

1445
00:50:45,660 --> 00:50:46,160
automatically.

1446
00:50:47,065 --> 00:50:49,224
No. Mhmm. So, you know, as as an

1447
00:50:49,224 --> 00:50:51,385
act of service, that that's definitely one way

1448
00:50:51,385 --> 00:50:52,684
to approach it. Mhmm.

1449
00:50:53,065 --> 00:50:55,304
Yeah. Or if if you're not a service

1450
00:50:55,304 --> 00:50:57,065
sub, but you're, like, a sub who does

1451
00:50:57,065 --> 00:50:59,085
what their partner tells them to,

1452
00:50:59,864 --> 00:51:00,364
consensually

1453
00:51:00,750 --> 00:51:02,369
negotiate it. Make sure you're comfortable.

1454
00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:05,650
But if it helps, do it from the

1455
00:51:06,510 --> 00:51:08,190
your partner wants you to do this so

1456
00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:09,730
you will do this for your partner

1457
00:51:10,590 --> 00:51:11,090
Mhmm.

1458
00:51:12,269 --> 00:51:14,429
As an act of submission Right. Whether if

1459
00:51:14,429 --> 00:51:17,494
service doesn't doesn't vibe. But part of it

1460
00:51:17,494 --> 00:51:20,295
is is getting past and getting beyond this

1461
00:51:20,295 --> 00:51:21,015
idea that,

1462
00:51:22,454 --> 00:51:24,394
if I insert the thing in your body,

1463
00:51:25,494 --> 00:51:27,414
that makes me dominant. No. It makes you

1464
00:51:27,414 --> 00:51:29,175
the top, but it don't make you dominant.

1465
00:51:29,175 --> 00:51:31,859
Mhmm. It's like years and years ago, one

1466
00:51:31,859 --> 00:51:33,699
of many things that inspired this whole ass

1467
00:51:33,699 --> 00:51:34,199
podcast

1468
00:51:34,659 --> 00:51:35,940
was when I had I went on a

1469
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:37,639
total, like, written

1470
00:51:38,659 --> 00:51:39,719
ranting rampage

1471
00:51:40,659 --> 00:51:41,159
on

1472
00:51:41,699 --> 00:51:43,539
my personal blog that I have not written

1473
00:51:43,539 --> 00:51:44,119
in forever

1474
00:51:44,574 --> 00:51:45,715
So about how

1475
00:51:47,375 --> 00:51:48,355
oral sex,

1476
00:51:49,295 --> 00:51:49,795
giving

1477
00:51:50,414 --> 00:51:52,914
oral sex or receiving. You are not automatically

1478
00:51:53,054 --> 00:51:54,735
a sub or dom depending on what you're

1479
00:51:54,735 --> 00:51:55,795
doing because

1480
00:51:56,974 --> 00:51:57,474
Yeah.

1481
00:51:58,414 --> 00:51:59,579
I know who's in

1482
00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:03,260
control when his mouth is where it goes.

1483
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:05,180
Okay. And it ain't me. It has never

1484
00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:07,260
been me. Because there was this sort of

1485
00:52:07,260 --> 00:52:07,760
misogynistic

1486
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:10,140
thing of of your especially if you're, you

1487
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:12,300
know, a man and you were, you know,

1488
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:15,275
going down on especially a woman, but anybody,

1489
00:52:15,494 --> 00:52:16,454
if you were the one doing that, it

1490
00:52:16,454 --> 00:52:18,054
makes you air quotes submissive. And it's like,

1491
00:52:18,054 --> 00:52:20,135
nah. There's there's power to be had in

1492
00:52:20,135 --> 00:52:22,375
any Oh, yeah. Sexual position. And and I

1493
00:52:22,454 --> 00:52:23,974
It's a mind. I feel sorry for them.

1494
00:52:23,974 --> 00:52:25,255
They're missing out on a lot of fun.

1495
00:52:25,255 --> 00:52:27,059
Oh, yeah. They they are a 100% are.

1496
00:52:27,140 --> 00:52:28,099
So that yeah. That's the thing. If you

1497
00:52:28,099 --> 00:52:29,380
could think of it as service, think of

1498
00:52:29,380 --> 00:52:30,420
it as service. Yep. If you can think

1499
00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:31,719
of it as an active submission,

1500
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:32,760
cool.

1501
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:35,160
And then just just remember that

1502
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:37,800
inserting does not automatically

1503
00:52:38,099 --> 00:52:38,840
mean dominance.

1504
00:52:39,219 --> 00:52:41,414
Clearly, it can, but it doesn't have to.

1505
00:52:42,454 --> 00:52:42,954
Okay.

1506
00:52:43,335 --> 00:52:44,394
Next question.

1507
00:52:46,135 --> 00:52:48,535
I this, I think, came across as a

1508
00:52:48,535 --> 00:52:49,515
little bit like,

1509
00:52:50,295 --> 00:52:52,394
but I wanted to give you an opportunity

1510
00:52:52,614 --> 00:52:54,875
because you need to talk more, damn it.

1511
00:52:56,454 --> 00:52:58,510
Why would someone want to be a dom?

1512
00:52:58,510 --> 00:53:00,929
What's the appeal about all that responsibility?

1513
00:53:02,909 --> 00:53:04,369
Well, you know, I

1514
00:53:05,710 --> 00:53:08,109
for me, I can I can pinpoint where

1515
00:53:08,109 --> 00:53:09,089
it came from?

1516
00:53:10,045 --> 00:53:11,885
And I know for everybody, it's gonna be

1517
00:53:11,885 --> 00:53:14,945
different. Okay? You know, it's it's not a

1518
00:53:15,164 --> 00:53:16,844
a pat answer. Mhmm.

1519
00:53:17,405 --> 00:53:18,304
My childhood

1520
00:53:20,765 --> 00:53:21,265
was

1521
00:53:22,109 --> 00:53:22,609
chaotic.

1522
00:53:22,989 --> 00:53:23,489
Mhmm.

1523
00:53:24,429 --> 00:53:25,170
It was,

1524
00:53:27,549 --> 00:53:28,049
yeah.

1525
00:53:31,069 --> 00:53:31,549
And in this

1526
00:53:33,069 --> 00:53:34,509
and there were a lot of things that

1527
00:53:34,509 --> 00:53:35,009
happened

1528
00:53:35,574 --> 00:53:36,315
there that

1529
00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:37,994
for me,

1530
00:53:39,414 --> 00:53:40,315
coming into

1531
00:53:40,934 --> 00:53:41,434
the

1532
00:53:41,894 --> 00:53:43,035
BDSM lifestyle

1533
00:53:43,655 --> 00:53:45,974
and being a dominant, I was able to

1534
00:53:45,974 --> 00:53:46,954
take back control.

1535
00:53:47,255 --> 00:53:47,755
Mhmm.

1536
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:50,269
Yeah. You don't do well when you're not

1537
00:53:50,269 --> 00:53:51,170
in control now.

1538
00:53:51,469 --> 00:53:51,969
No.

1539
00:53:52,349 --> 00:53:54,269
In all No. Facets of life. No. Like,

1540
00:53:54,269 --> 00:53:55,650
we're we're talking about just relationships.

1541
00:53:57,230 --> 00:53:57,730
Yeah.

1542
00:53:58,110 --> 00:53:59,969
So, you know, that that's that's

1543
00:54:00,429 --> 00:54:02,050
where it is for me. Mhmm.

1544
00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:03,010
Okay.

1545
00:54:05,795 --> 00:54:06,295
Yeah.

1546
00:54:06,994 --> 00:54:07,494
Follow-up

1547
00:54:07,795 --> 00:54:09,734
side question. Sure. In terms of

1548
00:54:10,835 --> 00:54:12,755
the taking on the responsibility, which I you

1549
00:54:12,755 --> 00:54:14,054
know, if you are not

1550
00:54:14,355 --> 00:54:16,989
naturally inclined toward a dominant role, I could

1551
00:54:16,989 --> 00:54:18,269
see where the idea of taking on that

1552
00:54:18,269 --> 00:54:19,730
responsibility can be overwhelming.

1553
00:54:20,269 --> 00:54:22,429
Can you talk about, like, what is it

1554
00:54:22,429 --> 00:54:23,650
that you receive

1555
00:54:23,949 --> 00:54:26,109
or get or, you know, whatever from Here's

1556
00:54:26,109 --> 00:54:27,170
here's the thing

1557
00:54:27,469 --> 00:54:29,630
that I'm gonna say about taking on the

1558
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:30,130
responsibility.

1559
00:54:31,775 --> 00:54:34,735
And, again, this speaks for us. Right. Okay?

1560
00:54:34,735 --> 00:54:37,454
This this Your mileage will always vary. Right.

1561
00:54:37,454 --> 00:54:38,114
You know,

1562
00:54:38,494 --> 00:54:40,114
different people, different results

1563
00:54:40,414 --> 00:54:41,155
kind of thing.

1564
00:54:43,855 --> 00:54:45,155
Yes. There are times

1565
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:47,530
I you know, especially

1566
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:49,030
over our our last,

1567
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:50,889
few years Yeah.

1568
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:53,429
You know, there there were times I thought

1569
00:54:53,429 --> 00:54:54,010
to myself,

1570
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:56,489
I can't do this.

1571
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:59,289
Somebody else make some decisions. Right.

1572
00:55:00,494 --> 00:55:01,394
But what

1573
00:55:03,855 --> 00:55:04,675
what helps

1574
00:55:05,615 --> 00:55:07,934
keep that at bay for the most part

1575
00:55:07,934 --> 00:55:08,675
with us

1576
00:55:09,295 --> 00:55:09,795
is

1577
00:55:11,055 --> 00:55:12,914
before we entered into our

1578
00:55:14,255 --> 00:55:15,315
our dynamic,

1579
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,940
we came at each other as equals. Mhmm.

1580
00:55:20,199 --> 00:55:20,699
Okay.

1581
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,659
And even though I am the decision maker,

1582
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:24,619
in the end

1583
00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:26,859
when everything comes down to it,

1584
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,219
I know

1585
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,260
that

1586
00:55:32,875 --> 00:55:33,534
I can

1587
00:55:33,914 --> 00:55:36,154
trust to sit down with you and say,

1588
00:55:36,154 --> 00:55:36,654
okay.

1589
00:55:37,114 --> 00:55:38,974
What what's going on here? What

1590
00:55:39,914 --> 00:55:42,315
what are we looking at? What options do

1591
00:55:42,315 --> 00:55:43,214
we have? What?

1592
00:55:45,019 --> 00:55:46,619
And we can sit and talk about all

1593
00:55:46,619 --> 00:55:48,400
that stuff. So you don't bear the responsibility

1594
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:52,079
to completely alone. Right. Right? You have support.

1595
00:55:52,219 --> 00:55:55,440
Yes. Mhmm. That that's what makes it Mhmm.

1596
00:55:56,075 --> 00:55:58,155
And then sometimes, you know, I I'm would

1597
00:55:58,155 --> 00:56:00,155
imagine I don't wanna speak for you. Mhmm.

1598
00:56:00,155 --> 00:56:02,015
I know you'll correct me if I'm wrong.

1599
00:56:02,474 --> 00:56:04,954
It there's also the there's a balance we

1600
00:56:04,954 --> 00:56:07,775
have. There's responsibility, but then there is pleasure

1601
00:56:07,835 --> 00:56:10,575
from the control. Mhmm. There's enjoyment. There's

1602
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,579
satisfaction. There's Oh, yeah. Whatever whatever whatever.

1603
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,019
And so

1604
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,199
sort of it doesn't will not always be

1605
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:19,500
in balance. It's impossible.

1606
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:20,539
But

1607
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:22,300
in general,

1608
00:56:22,839 --> 00:56:24,905
over pick your amount of time,

1609
00:56:25,285 --> 00:56:26,885
it has to be kind it has to

1610
00:56:26,885 --> 00:56:29,065
balance itself out so that

1611
00:56:29,684 --> 00:56:30,425
the responsibility

1612
00:56:31,045 --> 00:56:32,505
is not, you know,

1613
00:56:32,805 --> 00:56:35,684
weighing so heavily and there's, like, no there's

1614
00:56:35,684 --> 00:56:38,070
not enough pleasure and satisfaction or whatever it

1615
00:56:38,070 --> 00:56:39,930
is, you know, to go with it.

1616
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:42,309
Because, you know, the same question can be

1617
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:43,990
asked. Why would you wanna submit? Why would

1618
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:45,430
you want somebody to tell you what to

1619
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:47,369
do? Well, I got I personally

1620
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:51,050
got got some reasons. Right? And it ultimately

1621
00:56:51,269 --> 00:56:53,804
is there's your reasons and then there's what

1622
00:56:53,804 --> 00:56:55,425
you receive, you know.

1623
00:56:56,204 --> 00:56:56,704
So,

1624
00:56:59,644 --> 00:57:00,364
what am I

1625
00:57:01,085 --> 00:57:02,605
where was I going with that? You moved

1626
00:57:02,605 --> 00:57:04,945
real fast and I went panic.

1627
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,280
So yeah. It's just Yeah. Because I saw

1628
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,360
something pack pop up and I need to

1629
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:10,900
Right. The the whole

1630
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,360
thing is there's something you want and you

1631
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,539
receive it in a way that is ethical

1632
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,660
and consensual.

1633
00:57:20,114 --> 00:57:22,514
And so for the the rough times or

1634
00:57:22,514 --> 00:57:24,355
the hard times or the Mhmm. The things

1635
00:57:24,355 --> 00:57:27,155
that carry a weight to them, they're balanced

1636
00:57:27,155 --> 00:57:29,355
by whatever you're getting from that that True.

1637
00:57:29,474 --> 00:57:31,655
You need and you want and is satisfying.

1638
00:57:32,355 --> 00:57:32,855
Mhmm.

1639
00:57:34,859 --> 00:57:37,739
Okay. How do you navigate shame related to

1640
00:57:37,739 --> 00:57:40,239
being a kinky person in a vanilla culture?

1641
00:57:42,940 --> 00:57:44,880
That's a heavy one. It it is.

1642
00:57:45,179 --> 00:57:47,920
It is. And and, you know, for me,

1643
00:57:48,695 --> 00:57:49,755
for a long time,

1644
00:57:52,695 --> 00:57:55,034
I dealt with that. Mhmm. I think probably

1645
00:57:55,175 --> 00:57:57,735
most people do Mhmm. Coming into into the

1646
00:57:57,735 --> 00:57:58,235
lifestyle.

1647
00:57:59,335 --> 00:57:59,835
And

1648
00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:03,760
I think what,

1649
00:58:05,099 --> 00:58:06,400
helps me navigate

1650
00:58:07,820 --> 00:58:09,199
it now more than anything

1651
00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:12,859
is I have reached a point in my

1652
00:58:12,859 --> 00:58:15,359
life where I have little fucks to give.

1653
00:58:15,659 --> 00:58:15,914
Mhmm.

1654
00:58:16,635 --> 00:58:17,695
Mhmm. And I don't

1655
00:58:18,554 --> 00:58:19,054
Yeah.

1656
00:58:19,755 --> 00:58:20,414
You know?

1657
00:58:21,035 --> 00:58:23,614
It it it's not as important to me

1658
00:58:25,114 --> 00:58:26,735
to navigate. I mean, I'm not

1659
00:58:28,235 --> 00:58:28,735
blatant

1660
00:58:29,275 --> 00:58:31,530
Sure. About it. You know? Walking around in

1661
00:58:31,690 --> 00:58:33,869
leather and leaving me by a leash. Right.

1662
00:58:34,489 --> 00:58:36,010
No. We do not do that in public.

1663
00:58:36,010 --> 00:58:37,789
That is not our chance. No.

1664
00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:38,730
But,

1665
00:58:39,690 --> 00:58:40,989
but yeah. I mean,

1666
00:58:42,570 --> 00:58:44,489
you know, I I look at doing things

1667
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:45,949
certain things in public

1668
00:58:46,545 --> 00:58:48,065
like that, and I know that's a whole

1669
00:58:48,065 --> 00:58:50,644
conversation. We've had these conversations before. I know.

1670
00:58:51,824 --> 00:58:54,565
You know, in public, people did not consent.

1671
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:56,005
Right. Absolutely.

1672
00:58:58,625 --> 00:59:00,784
So, you know, there's there's that. We're not

1673
00:59:00,784 --> 00:59:01,284
doing

1674
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:04,159
We're not You know, I'm not whipping out

1675
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:06,319
the flogger in public. Right. We're not bringing,

1676
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:08,480
people who did not consent to be in

1677
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,319
it with us Right. Ever. So it is

1678
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:12,819
it gets to be behind closed doors

1679
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,659
and or in spaces

1680
00:59:15,585 --> 00:59:16,085
designated

1681
00:59:16,385 --> 00:59:17,925
to be doing those things.

1682
00:59:18,224 --> 00:59:18,885
You know,

1683
00:59:19,344 --> 00:59:21,445
from the conversations we've had because I know

1684
00:59:21,824 --> 00:59:23,664
at least one of the ways that you

1685
00:59:23,664 --> 00:59:26,224
were in real life absolutely shamed for being

1686
00:59:26,224 --> 00:59:27,284
kinky. Mhmm.

1687
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,280
You know, I think some of it is

1688
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,519
a a growing confidence in yourself over the

1689
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:33,920
years of realizing that you're not the only

1690
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,860
one and other people do this.

1691
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:36,900
And so

1692
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,200
you're not some, like, freak of nature out

1693
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,840
here, like, just coming up with crazy shit.

1694
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,239
Like, you're

1695
00:59:43,114 --> 00:59:44,875
you there's a there's a whole swath of

1696
00:59:44,875 --> 00:59:47,114
humanity that's like, yeah. I'm kinda into that

1697
00:59:47,114 --> 00:59:47,934
shit too.

1698
00:59:49,355 --> 00:59:51,275
And, you know, just in the time we've

1699
00:59:51,275 --> 00:59:53,214
been together and you knew you were kinky

1700
00:59:53,275 --> 00:59:55,835
long before you knew I existed in this

1701
00:59:55,835 --> 00:59:56,335
world.

1702
00:59:56,635 --> 00:59:57,914
But even in the the

1703
00:59:58,554 --> 01:00:00,489
oh, gosh, 2012,

1704
01:00:00,630 --> 01:00:03,130
they're almost almost thirteen years.

1705
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:06,309
I've watched you grow in confidence just because

1706
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:06,809
you've

1707
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:09,510
lived the kink life that you wanna live

1708
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:11,109
in the way you wanna live it, and

1709
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:12,550
that has evolved over the years. When the

1710
01:00:12,550 --> 01:00:13,609
kids were younger,

1711
01:00:14,795 --> 01:00:17,994
we were a lot quieter in, like, in

1712
01:00:17,994 --> 01:00:19,914
our own home about it. When you had

1713
01:00:19,914 --> 01:00:22,315
your own, like, corporate job, you had to

1714
01:00:22,315 --> 01:00:22,815
be

1715
01:00:23,114 --> 01:00:25,674
way under the radar. Like, his face didn't

1716
01:00:25,674 --> 01:00:26,335
get shown.

1717
01:00:26,714 --> 01:00:29,054
We were, like, we were super, super careful.

1718
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:30,299
We were less careful.

1719
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:32,760
I think that's kind of when we started

1720
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,319
doing video for the podcast was when we

1721
01:00:35,319 --> 01:00:36,139
stopped being

1722
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,579
concerned about that.

1723
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,179
Not as con well,

1724
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:41,420
the funny thing is

1725
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,739
when we started doing the video,

1726
01:00:44,385 --> 01:00:45,985
you were like oh we need to set

1727
01:00:45,985 --> 01:00:47,204
up we need to have

1728
01:00:47,824 --> 01:00:50,565
Facebook pages and social media and stuff

1729
01:00:51,265 --> 01:00:51,765
and

1730
01:00:52,704 --> 01:00:54,625
you know at that time neither of us

1731
01:00:54,625 --> 01:00:56,085
were out and

1732
01:00:56,859 --> 01:00:59,099
you know, when Not to our vanilla ice

1733
01:00:59,099 --> 01:01:00,400
cream. Not not to yeah.

1734
01:01:00,699 --> 01:01:01,199
And,

1735
01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:04,320
you know, when I set up your,

1736
01:01:06,460 --> 01:01:08,559
because your Facebook, we set up first

1737
01:01:09,534 --> 01:01:10,675
and locked it down

1738
01:01:11,295 --> 01:01:13,554
really good, really well at that time,

1739
01:01:14,014 --> 01:01:14,514
and,

1740
01:01:16,894 --> 01:01:19,074
kinda missed a target with mine. Yep.

1741
01:01:19,534 --> 01:01:21,855
Yep. And you and that's the thing. You

1742
01:01:21,855 --> 01:01:24,255
know, the shame is gonna come from different

1743
01:01:24,255 --> 01:01:27,109
places. There's the internalized shame, which JB dealt

1744
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:29,449
with early days of his Kingcliff. I

1745
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:32,069
other than the wrapping my head around the

1746
01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:34,309
fact that I was on the spectrum of

1747
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:36,409
being a little as a baby girl,

1748
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:39,675
I never felt the internalized shame of, oh,

1749
01:01:39,675 --> 01:01:41,775
I'm submissive. Like, for me, that was

1750
01:01:42,155 --> 01:01:43,914
a a feeling of rightness. Like, I was

1751
01:01:43,914 --> 01:01:46,394
like, oh, I make fucking sense now, and

1752
01:01:46,394 --> 01:01:47,614
I felt good about that.

1753
01:01:48,315 --> 01:01:51,215
But I'm not immune to the shame because,

1754
01:01:52,715 --> 01:01:53,855
in 2019,

1755
01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:57,720
when the stepfather I kinda tolerate became the

1756
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,920
evil stepfather Yeah. It was because he went

1757
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,760
digging where he shouldn't have and then didn't

1758
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,059
like what he saw.

1759
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:05,180
And then,

1760
01:02:06,534 --> 01:02:07,195
you know,

1761
01:02:07,494 --> 01:02:09,414
tried to in his way to

1762
01:02:10,614 --> 01:02:12,315
he tried to shame us,

1763
01:02:13,255 --> 01:02:15,094
because he did not approve. He does not

1764
01:02:15,094 --> 01:02:16,695
pay my fucking bills, so I don't need

1765
01:02:16,695 --> 01:02:17,434
his approval.

1766
01:02:18,054 --> 01:02:20,090
But he attempted to create a rift between

1767
01:02:20,090 --> 01:02:21,070
me and my mother

1768
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:23,130
and that's a whole thing. We got an

1769
01:02:23,130 --> 01:02:25,610
episode way back. I'm not I'm not going

1770
01:02:25,610 --> 01:02:27,070
into that at this point. But

1771
01:02:27,769 --> 01:02:29,789
I have I kind of just realized

1772
01:02:30,894 --> 01:02:31,394
recently,

1773
01:02:31,934 --> 01:02:33,855
I have been dealing with some level of

1774
01:02:33,934 --> 01:02:35,215
I don't know if I don't know if

1775
01:02:35,215 --> 01:02:37,394
if shame is the right word for it,

1776
01:02:37,535 --> 01:02:40,494
but a hesitancy. I basically stopped writing on

1777
01:02:40,494 --> 01:02:41,135
my personal

1778
01:02:41,535 --> 01:02:43,695
You did. Site after that because it no

1779
01:02:43,695 --> 01:02:45,614
longer it's I put it on the Internet.

1780
01:02:45,614 --> 01:02:46,515
It's not private,

1781
01:02:47,090 --> 01:02:49,010
but I had kept that part of my

1782
01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:50,070
life away

1783
01:02:50,849 --> 01:02:54,050
from my non kink Mhmm. Life on purpose

1784
01:02:54,050 --> 01:02:56,690
because I'd always, you know, said if I

1785
01:02:57,170 --> 01:02:58,390
if there was a chance

1786
01:02:59,394 --> 01:03:01,875
that somebody in my non kink life was

1787
01:03:01,875 --> 01:03:03,175
seeing this, reading this,

1788
01:03:03,474 --> 01:03:06,135
I I would not feel as free. And

1789
01:03:06,434 --> 01:03:06,934
when

1790
01:03:07,715 --> 01:03:09,575
it happened and it came with

1791
01:03:10,355 --> 01:03:12,035
an attempt to shame me and a whole

1792
01:03:12,035 --> 01:03:14,369
dose of anger Yeah. I was like, I

1793
01:03:14,369 --> 01:03:16,309
don't feel safe here anymore.

1794
01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:17,190
Correct.

1795
01:03:17,889 --> 01:03:19,969
And that and that is something that has

1796
01:03:19,969 --> 01:03:20,469
happened

1797
01:03:20,929 --> 01:03:21,429
to

1798
01:03:22,449 --> 01:03:24,389
other bloggers over the years. Oh, yeah.

1799
01:03:24,929 --> 01:03:26,449
I thought I was immune to it because

1800
01:03:26,449 --> 01:03:28,769
by the time that got, you know, that

1801
01:03:28,769 --> 01:03:29,829
got found out,

1802
01:03:30,824 --> 01:03:31,324
my,

1803
01:03:32,264 --> 01:03:35,065
you know, writing about sex, talking about kink

1804
01:03:35,065 --> 01:03:37,724
life had bought a fucking house, like,

1805
01:03:38,184 --> 01:03:39,864
or was about to buy a house. Yeah.

1806
01:03:40,105 --> 01:03:41,885
And so I was like, I have nothing

1807
01:03:41,945 --> 01:03:43,965
to be ashamed of, but

1808
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:45,920
it still manages to stop me in my

1809
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,420
tracks.

1810
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:49,679
A lot I've let most of that go.

1811
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:50,159
I just haven't

1812
01:03:51,279 --> 01:03:52,659
I've not gone back to writing.

1813
01:03:53,279 --> 01:03:54,960
I don't know if I will, when I

1814
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,239
will. I don't I don't think about that

1815
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:57,679
too much. I don't have time to think

1816
01:03:57,679 --> 01:03:58,339
about that.

1817
01:03:59,424 --> 01:04:00,244
But in terms

1818
01:04:02,304 --> 01:04:05,125
of dealing with my internal feelings, I

1819
01:04:05,824 --> 01:04:07,744
I think it helped that that happened after

1820
01:04:07,744 --> 01:04:09,505
I had understood I was kinky for several

1821
01:04:09,505 --> 01:04:11,904
years, had lived a kink life, had found

1822
01:04:11,904 --> 01:04:12,820
a career

1823
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:14,800
in the kink world in, you know, in

1824
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,039
some ways. Yeah. Because I was much more,

1825
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:19,059
like, confident in who I was.

1826
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:21,139
But I also

1827
01:04:22,719 --> 01:04:25,360
I surround myself with kinky people as much

1828
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,845
as as possible. Yeah.

1829
01:04:27,164 --> 01:04:28,224
And it's a way

1830
01:04:28,845 --> 01:04:30,465
for me to sort of

1831
01:04:31,005 --> 01:04:32,765
make it more normal, air quote, all that.

1832
01:04:32,765 --> 01:04:34,364
Like, we do taboo shit, and it's not

1833
01:04:34,525 --> 01:04:35,965
maybe it doesn't need to be normalized. I

1834
01:04:35,965 --> 01:04:37,425
don't know. That's a separate debate.

1835
01:04:39,739 --> 01:04:40,239
But,

1836
01:04:41,339 --> 01:04:42,559
you know, I

1837
01:04:43,179 --> 01:04:45,339
I'd purposely put myself in places where I

1838
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:46,859
don't have to deal with anybody's judgment. I

1839
01:04:46,859 --> 01:04:48,300
don't have to deal with whatever feelings that

1840
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:49,980
brings up in me. I don't I just

1841
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:51,644
I just don't. I just don't want to

1842
01:04:51,644 --> 01:04:52,385
and I don't.

1843
01:04:53,405 --> 01:04:55,644
So, you know, I am freely myself and

1844
01:04:55,644 --> 01:04:57,485
you see my face and whatever whatever part

1845
01:04:57,485 --> 01:04:59,724
of that is because the family fucking knows

1846
01:04:59,724 --> 01:05:01,565
at this point, and I just warned them,

1847
01:05:01,565 --> 01:05:04,224
don't go poking because you can't unknow. Mhmm.

1848
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:06,539
But

1849
01:05:07,319 --> 01:05:10,119
my life is it is very strange to

1850
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:12,039
be called by my legal name. Let's put

1851
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:13,900
it that way. I am Kayla Lords. Yeah.

1852
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,880
You know? I'm legally Kayla Lords. I have

1853
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,139
a d b doing business as yeah. Yeah.

1854
01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:19,965
I pay good money

1855
01:05:21,965 --> 01:05:23,885
for that every few years. But I I

1856
01:05:23,885 --> 01:05:25,244
think a lot of it is a time

1857
01:05:25,244 --> 01:05:28,625
thing. It's a community thing. It's a confidence

1858
01:05:28,765 --> 01:05:29,985
thing in yourself.

1859
01:05:31,885 --> 01:05:34,864
I I am sure there's probably a therapeutic

1860
01:05:35,325 --> 01:05:35,789
aspect

1861
01:05:36,269 --> 01:05:37,630
because I think it depends on where that

1862
01:05:37,630 --> 01:05:38,849
shame is coming from.

1863
01:05:39,550 --> 01:05:40,289
Are you

1864
01:05:42,110 --> 01:05:43,410
what is oh,

1865
01:05:44,269 --> 01:05:44,929
is it called

1866
01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:47,809
deconstructing? It's where people who,

1867
01:05:48,590 --> 01:05:49,730
were raised in

1868
01:05:50,030 --> 01:05:51,644
not good religious

1869
01:05:52,585 --> 01:05:54,744
ways Mhmm. Are trying to, like, kinda undo

1870
01:05:54,744 --> 01:05:55,804
some of that to, like,

1871
01:05:56,424 --> 01:05:58,184
have, like, have the life they want and

1872
01:05:58,184 --> 01:05:59,944
to, like, not have as much shame and

1873
01:05:59,944 --> 01:06:02,344
guilt. And I'm not religious, so I I'm

1874
01:06:02,344 --> 01:06:03,929
not saying any of the words right, but

1875
01:06:03,929 --> 01:06:05,690
somebody who knows wouldn't you know what I'm

1876
01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:06,730
talking about. I know I know what you're

1877
01:06:06,730 --> 01:06:08,409
talking. Yeah. That is, like, that's not a

1878
01:06:08,409 --> 01:06:09,769
thing that you're just I think you just

1879
01:06:09,769 --> 01:06:12,250
wake up from, you know, six months into

1880
01:06:12,250 --> 01:06:13,690
your kink life or six years in your

1881
01:06:13,690 --> 01:06:15,130
kink life and you're like, oh, the shame

1882
01:06:15,130 --> 01:06:16,809
has come. Like, I think there are there

1883
01:06:16,969 --> 01:06:18,730
there's different avenues to how you deal with

1884
01:06:18,730 --> 01:06:18,974
that.

1885
01:06:19,614 --> 01:06:21,535
But what you said at the top is

1886
01:06:21,535 --> 01:06:23,775
probably the most important. You gotta run out

1887
01:06:23,775 --> 01:06:24,755
of fucks to give.

1888
01:06:25,375 --> 01:06:27,695
Yeah. You know? I think that's different because

1889
01:06:27,695 --> 01:06:29,295
we've warned about this over the years, and

1890
01:06:29,295 --> 01:06:30,835
it was a fear we had,

1891
01:06:31,389 --> 01:06:32,909
because the kids are of a certain age

1892
01:06:32,909 --> 01:06:35,389
when the evil stepdad lost his fucking shit.

1893
01:06:35,389 --> 01:06:35,869
Yeah.

1894
01:06:36,429 --> 01:06:38,510
You know, people do lose custody over their

1895
01:06:38,510 --> 01:06:39,010
kids,

1896
01:06:39,869 --> 01:06:42,030
for for Mhmm. For people finding out they're

1897
01:06:42,030 --> 01:06:44,125
kinky. And people do lose jobs. You know?

1898
01:06:44,125 --> 01:06:46,525
People do like, you could get kicked out.

1899
01:06:46,525 --> 01:06:48,765
You can get divorced. Like, there is a

1900
01:06:48,765 --> 01:06:50,785
loss to be had there for some people.

1901
01:06:51,005 --> 01:06:53,485
And so if you are super private and

1902
01:06:53,485 --> 01:06:54,765
you don't tell anybody and you have a

1903
01:06:54,765 --> 01:06:57,085
lot of fucks because you know what you

1904
01:06:57,085 --> 01:06:58,065
have to lose,

1905
01:06:58,525 --> 01:06:59,989
that's that's different. Once

1906
01:07:01,329 --> 01:07:03,190
that was not really a concern of

1907
01:07:03,570 --> 01:07:05,730
ours anymore Mhmm. The fucks do sort of

1908
01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:06,869
drift away eventually.

1909
01:07:07,570 --> 01:07:08,150
Yeah. Yeah.

1910
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:09,110
But

1911
01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:12,130
I sometimes get confused in my head. I

1912
01:07:12,130 --> 01:07:12,949
hate being

1913
01:07:13,730 --> 01:07:16,585
perceived when I'm not trying to be perceived.

1914
01:07:17,605 --> 01:07:19,445
And so sometimes I can't quite tell in

1915
01:07:19,445 --> 01:07:20,885
my own head. Is this a sense of

1916
01:07:20,885 --> 01:07:22,344
shame or is this the

1917
01:07:22,644 --> 01:07:25,204
deep seated hatred of being perceived by people

1918
01:07:25,204 --> 01:07:26,969
that I don't know and do not

1919
01:07:27,690 --> 01:07:29,789
have not welcomed into this

1920
01:07:30,409 --> 01:07:32,650
thing. Right? Like, it's too personal. Like, Kayla

1921
01:07:32,650 --> 01:07:34,030
Lords is probably the

1922
01:07:34,889 --> 01:07:36,269
rawest, most vulnerable

1923
01:07:36,969 --> 01:07:38,809
version of who I am as a human

1924
01:07:38,809 --> 01:07:41,630
being, and so it is very uncomfortable

1925
01:07:42,284 --> 01:07:44,444
for people who don't fucking get it to

1926
01:07:44,444 --> 01:07:45,264
perceive me.

1927
01:07:46,525 --> 01:07:49,005
And so that's you know, it's all complex

1928
01:07:49,005 --> 01:07:50,844
is what I would say. And there are

1929
01:07:50,844 --> 01:07:53,565
many paths to get to the same outcome

1930
01:07:53,565 --> 01:07:55,180
of going, this is who the fuck I

1931
01:07:55,180 --> 01:07:57,019
am, take it or leave it. But, also,

1932
01:07:57,019 --> 01:07:58,079
if you are never

1933
01:07:58,380 --> 01:07:59,660
like that and you're just like, this is

1934
01:07:59,660 --> 01:08:01,420
what I do behind closed doors, and it's

1935
01:08:01,420 --> 01:08:03,739
not for anybody else to know. That's what

1936
01:08:03,739 --> 01:08:06,380
I find too. Valid. Yep. Okay. Last one.

1937
01:08:06,380 --> 01:08:07,840
It's kind of easy. Mhmm.

1938
01:08:08,175 --> 01:08:08,675
Mhmm.

1939
01:08:08,974 --> 01:08:11,855
What apps slash websites do you trust for

1940
01:08:11,855 --> 01:08:13,155
meeting a kinky partner?

1941
01:08:15,934 --> 01:08:18,494
I don't trust anything for meeting people online.

1942
01:08:18,494 --> 01:08:21,055
Like, there's not a a designation you go

1943
01:08:21,055 --> 01:08:22,420
to and you're like, you can trust everything

1944
01:08:22,420 --> 01:08:24,340
that happens here. This is the Internet. Don't

1945
01:08:24,340 --> 01:08:26,979
trust anything. Don't trust anything. But are there

1946
01:08:26,979 --> 01:08:27,479
better

1947
01:08:28,579 --> 01:08:30,599
places than others? Yes.

1948
01:08:31,139 --> 01:08:33,300
Yeah. I, you know, I I don't I

1949
01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:35,460
don't know what to say on that. I

1950
01:08:35,460 --> 01:08:37,164
I really don't. I'm gonna do the thing

1951
01:08:37,164 --> 01:08:38,864
I always say and it's the boring answer.

1952
01:08:38,925 --> 01:08:41,324
It's not the the fun answer because people

1953
01:08:41,324 --> 01:08:42,685
really wanna Mhmm. If I just go do

1954
01:08:42,765 --> 01:08:44,465
to this one place, I'll do the thing.

1955
01:08:45,725 --> 01:08:48,284
Kinky people exist on every platform, every app,

1956
01:08:48,284 --> 01:08:50,784
every website, everywhere. They're we are everywhere.

1957
01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:54,190
If you know you want a kinky partner,

1958
01:08:55,610 --> 01:08:57,449
go to the places where the kinky people

1959
01:08:57,449 --> 01:09:00,170
are gathering. Fetlife is the top one because

1960
01:09:00,170 --> 01:09:01,850
it's the most popular but there are other

1961
01:09:01,850 --> 01:09:03,530
sites that have kinda cropped up over the

1962
01:09:03,530 --> 01:09:04,989
years that have a social aspect.

1963
01:09:05,774 --> 01:09:07,074
Fetish.com,

1964
01:09:09,135 --> 01:09:09,795
The Cage.

1965
01:09:10,414 --> 01:09:12,414
There's several out there. I don't I don't

1966
01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:13,635
remember them all anymore.

1967
01:09:15,135 --> 01:09:17,694
There is I cannot remember the name of

1968
01:09:17,694 --> 01:09:18,354
the app

1969
01:09:18,670 --> 01:09:20,529
that is the most kink friendly.

1970
01:09:22,029 --> 01:09:24,429
They're not like a kink dating app, but

1971
01:09:24,429 --> 01:09:26,829
they're like it's I think it's used primarily

1972
01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:29,630
by, like, non monogamous people or it's friendly

1973
01:09:29,630 --> 01:09:30,369
to non monogamous

1974
01:09:32,444 --> 01:09:32,909
people too. I cannot remember the name of

1975
01:09:32,909 --> 01:09:34,545
the fucking app. But wherever

1976
01:09:35,164 --> 01:09:37,024
if if doing that does not appeal,

1977
01:09:38,524 --> 01:09:41,164
what what social media site, what app are

1978
01:09:41,164 --> 01:09:43,085
you most comfortable using? Like, you spend most

1979
01:09:43,085 --> 01:09:44,625
of your time there? Okay. Well,

1980
01:09:46,380 --> 01:09:48,460
if you don't want this on your main

1981
01:09:48,460 --> 01:09:51,100
account, create yourself an alt account that's just

1982
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:53,119
your kinky life, and just go

1983
01:09:53,659 --> 01:09:55,179
to the extent that you can and that's

1984
01:09:55,179 --> 01:09:56,619
safe for you and all that. Go be

1985
01:09:56,619 --> 01:09:58,515
kinky on the Internet in a place you

1986
01:09:58,994 --> 01:10:00,675
can, you know, you like to be, like

1987
01:10:00,675 --> 01:10:02,914
you like to hang out because we are

1988
01:10:02,914 --> 01:10:03,895
fucking everywhere.

1989
01:10:04,515 --> 01:10:06,295
So the whole thing is

1990
01:10:07,314 --> 01:10:08,755
if you're willing to be open about that

1991
01:10:08,755 --> 01:10:10,274
you're looking for a kinky partner, put that

1992
01:10:10,274 --> 01:10:11,494
fucking shit out there.

1993
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:14,900
Go where you feel comfortable,

1994
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,360
and if a place makes you uncomfortable, just

1995
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,060
don't fucking be there. But,

1996
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,060
like, get to know people

1997
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,340
as people.

1998
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,619
Our default answer is and has always been

1999
01:10:25,954 --> 01:10:26,774
and I just

2000
01:10:27,314 --> 01:10:29,095
I just think it's it's good.

2001
01:10:30,034 --> 01:10:32,034
Make be there like make a fucking friend

2002
01:10:32,034 --> 01:10:33,475
first. Make sure you like them as a

2003
01:10:33,475 --> 01:10:35,475
human being and you're like, yeah. I would

2004
01:10:35,475 --> 01:10:37,734
I would share oxygen with this person.

2005
01:10:38,250 --> 01:10:40,649
You know? Not, oh, that is a dom

2006
01:10:40,649 --> 01:10:41,849
and I am looking for a dom or

2007
01:10:41,849 --> 01:10:43,130
that is a sub and I'm looking for

2008
01:10:43,130 --> 01:10:44,569
sub and so I'm just gonna slot this

2009
01:10:44,569 --> 01:10:46,189
person in because they have the title.

2010
01:10:47,289 --> 01:10:49,130
Like, just go be a person on the

2011
01:10:49,130 --> 01:10:50,845
Internet, a kinky person if that, you know,

2012
01:10:50,845 --> 01:10:52,925
if you feel comfortable doing that, alt accounts

2013
01:10:52,925 --> 01:10:54,364
are great. I've been living by them for

2014
01:10:54,364 --> 01:10:54,864
years.

2015
01:10:56,284 --> 01:10:58,465
Actually, I actually now have an alt vanilla

2016
01:10:58,524 --> 01:10:59,024
account.

2017
01:11:00,524 --> 01:11:02,364
I locked that shit down though, even that

2018
01:11:02,364 --> 01:11:03,885
one. And it's like, I don't have my

2019
01:11:03,885 --> 01:11:06,060
legal name on it, but I blocked

2020
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,239
everybody in my vanilla life because I was

2021
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:11,079
like, I want privacy. This is for me

2022
01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:12,199
to go look at what I wanna look

2023
01:11:12,199 --> 01:11:14,039
at and to talk to my college age

2024
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:14,539
kid,

2025
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:17,400
not for the rest of you. So yeah.

2026
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:17,900
The

2027
01:11:18,304 --> 01:11:20,304
life is weird because my alt account is

2028
01:11:20,304 --> 01:11:20,804
vanilla.

2029
01:11:22,064 --> 01:11:23,045
Yeah. Yeah.

2030
01:11:23,824 --> 01:11:26,704
So strange. I get it. I do. But,

2031
01:11:26,704 --> 01:11:28,645
yeah, I mean, the thing is

2032
01:11:29,185 --> 01:11:31,505
FetLife has the reputation for being a cesspit,

2033
01:11:31,505 --> 01:11:34,489
and it can be. Mhmm. But Instagram can

2034
01:11:34,489 --> 01:11:36,729
be a cesspit. Yeah. Facebook is a cesspit.

2035
01:11:36,729 --> 01:11:37,469
Let's just

2036
01:11:37,929 --> 01:11:39,309
I'm a need, like,

2037
01:11:39,689 --> 01:11:41,309
everybody's oldest generation

2038
01:11:41,769 --> 01:11:44,250
family member with access to Facebook to to

2039
01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:46,170
get them to stop sharing that AI bullshit.

2040
01:11:46,170 --> 01:11:47,375
Like, come on now.

2041
01:11:48,795 --> 01:11:50,635
But it's it's a matter of vetting. It's

2042
01:11:50,635 --> 01:11:53,055
a matter of getting good at kind of

2043
01:11:53,274 --> 01:11:54,335
listening to,

2044
01:11:54,795 --> 01:11:56,715
you know, whatever your intuition might be telling

2045
01:11:56,715 --> 01:11:57,215
you.

2046
01:11:57,675 --> 01:11:59,935
For me, that's definitely a gut thing

2047
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,140
and checking vibes and being willing to go.

2048
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,440
I you I don't even know why I

2049
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:08,900
feel iffy about you, but

2050
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,360
no. Like, you've made me feel iffy, you

2051
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,880
know. And it's a time thing and it's

2052
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,820
a weeding through a lot of crap

2053
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,064
to find, like, a couple of decent people.

2054
01:12:18,444 --> 01:12:19,965
And sometimes you have to take breaks from

2055
01:12:19,965 --> 01:12:21,244
it. Sometimes you have to go, I don't

2056
01:12:21,244 --> 01:12:22,845
wanna be on this site anymore. Fuck that.

2057
01:12:22,845 --> 01:12:24,225
And go be on another one.

2058
01:12:25,645 --> 01:12:26,465
But also

2059
01:12:27,965 --> 01:12:30,380
this in person too. It's munches munches if

2060
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:31,739
you can find them, if you have access

2061
01:12:31,739 --> 01:12:32,920
to them. Or

2062
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:35,619
it's specific kink communities. A lot of them

2063
01:12:35,619 --> 01:12:37,380
are through Discord these days. Now our Discord

2064
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:38,840
is through our Patreon because

2065
01:12:39,380 --> 01:12:41,539
that is how I I feel safe. I

2066
01:12:41,539 --> 01:12:43,300
want people to be in that type of

2067
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:45,015
community where you get a lot more access

2068
01:12:45,015 --> 01:12:46,875
to me than you do anywhere else.

2069
01:12:47,255 --> 01:12:49,335
To be people that I like feel like

2070
01:12:49,335 --> 01:12:50,375
I have a sense of who you are.

2071
01:12:50,375 --> 01:12:52,215
Like I can't have a Discord that's literally

2072
01:12:52,215 --> 01:12:53,735
open to everybody or that I have to

2073
01:12:53,735 --> 01:12:55,354
spend a lot of time vetting people for.

2074
01:12:56,135 --> 01:12:57,270
That's not that's not me.

2075
01:12:58,710 --> 01:13:00,649
But there are Discord communities.

2076
01:13:01,510 --> 01:13:03,270
So you can go if you can find

2077
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:04,869
one that where you feel comfortable or people

2078
01:13:04,869 --> 01:13:06,789
you trust are in it and they're like,

2079
01:13:06,789 --> 01:13:08,310
hey, here's what you gotta do to get

2080
01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:09,130
in or whatever,

2081
01:13:10,275 --> 01:13:12,275
Do that. But always go into any of

2082
01:13:12,275 --> 01:13:12,935
those spaces

2083
01:13:13,235 --> 01:13:14,994
knowing you gotta weed out a bunch of

2084
01:13:14,994 --> 01:13:15,494
shit,

2085
01:13:17,875 --> 01:13:19,335
considering a vibe check.

2086
01:13:19,875 --> 01:13:21,555
Even if you're out of practicing, never listen

2087
01:13:21,555 --> 01:13:22,675
to your gut or your gut, you're like,

2088
01:13:22,675 --> 01:13:24,275
but my gut's been wrong. There's so many

2089
01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:26,060
fucking people on this planet. Let your gut

2090
01:13:26,060 --> 01:13:27,520
be wrong. Weed them out.

2091
01:13:28,699 --> 01:13:31,739
Because you can't talk to be with date,

2092
01:13:31,739 --> 01:13:32,880
try out everybody.

2093
01:13:33,979 --> 01:13:34,479
So,

2094
01:13:35,020 --> 01:13:36,800
you know, and make friends.

2095
01:13:37,579 --> 01:13:39,819
From there, maybe you'll meet somebody. Maybe something

2096
01:13:39,819 --> 01:13:41,614
will grow into more, you know?

2097
01:13:42,635 --> 01:13:44,095
Mhmm. And it is the most boring,

2098
01:13:44,715 --> 01:13:45,854
not fast answer.

2099
01:13:46,954 --> 01:13:48,395
And I know people hate it when they

2100
01:13:48,395 --> 01:13:49,595
ask. They're like, just tell me the one

2101
01:13:49,595 --> 01:13:51,595
place I gotta go. It don't work that

2102
01:13:51,595 --> 01:13:52,095
way.

2103
01:13:52,475 --> 01:13:52,890
But yeah.

2104
01:13:54,170 --> 01:13:55,070
So there

2105
01:13:55,449 --> 01:13:56,189
is that.

2106
01:13:57,930 --> 01:13:58,430
Those

2107
01:14:00,329 --> 01:14:01,550
were all the questions.

2108
01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:04,729
This is a very long episode. So normally

2109
01:14:04,729 --> 01:14:05,689
on a q and a, I'd be like,

2110
01:14:05,689 --> 01:14:07,610
live chat. Yeah. Nope. That's what Friday night's

2111
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:09,639
for. We do a Q and A during

2112
01:14:09,639 --> 01:14:11,792
our Friday night livestream. You can ask questions

2113
01:14:11,792 --> 01:14:13,947
in. So we've we've done our job of

2114
01:14:13,947 --> 01:14:16,100
a thing we do now. We've we've tried

2115
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:18,792
to help people Mhmm. And given our perspective

2116
01:14:18,792 --> 01:14:21,216
on things. Yep. And always your mileage may

2117
01:14:21,216 --> 01:14:23,260
vary and you can reject any advice we

2118
01:14:23,260 --> 01:14:25,020
give you. We are we do not pay

2119
01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:26,079
your bills. Okay?

2120
01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:28,720
Quite frankly, some of y'all pay ours. But

2121
01:14:30,460 --> 01:14:32,220
if it if a piece of advice from

2122
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:35,439
anybody does not fucking serve you, ignore it.

2123
01:14:35,739 --> 01:14:37,439
Go do something else. It's fine.

2124
01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:38,925
So now

2125
01:14:39,484 --> 01:14:41,645
is the third layer of this No. No.

2126
01:14:41,645 --> 01:14:42,684
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

2127
01:14:42,684 --> 01:14:44,983
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

2128
01:14:44,983 --> 01:14:45,451
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

2129
01:14:45,451 --> 01:14:45,918
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

2130
01:14:45,918 --> 01:14:46,386
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

2131
01:14:46,386 --> 01:14:46,944
No. No.

2132
01:14:47,804 --> 01:14:48,304
No.

2133
01:14:49,164 --> 01:14:49,664
No.

2134
01:14:50,594 --> 01:14:51,425
No. No. No

2135
01:14:52,609 --> 01:14:55,090
Shout out, I hope, Yarn and Whiskey is

2136
01:14:55,090 --> 01:14:56,149
listening or watching.

2137
01:14:57,170 --> 01:14:57,829
This was,

2138
01:14:58,849 --> 01:15:01,090
because I asked. I went into Discord and

2139
01:15:01,090 --> 01:15:02,469
I was like, hey.

2140
01:15:03,489 --> 01:15:05,170
I'm trying to plan this episode. What would

2141
01:15:05,170 --> 01:15:07,125
y'all like? And Yarn and Whiskey was like,

2142
01:15:07,364 --> 01:15:09,524
you know, can you like, we're we're getting

2143
01:15:09,524 --> 01:15:12,324
to watch you plan your power exchange sort

2144
01:15:12,324 --> 01:15:14,805
of, like, what's happening in future. What's the

2145
01:15:14,805 --> 01:15:17,045
dream? The podcast. Like, where where are you

2146
01:15:17,045 --> 01:15:18,564
going? What do you do next? What are

2147
01:15:18,564 --> 01:15:20,744
you aiming for? What what are you dreaming

2148
01:15:20,805 --> 01:15:22,404
about? Look. I'm just trying to get to

2149
01:15:22,404 --> 01:15:23,630
next week and know I that I know

2150
01:15:23,630 --> 01:15:25,090
what topic we're gonna

2151
01:15:26,189 --> 01:15:27,409
do. So I'm not sure

2152
01:15:28,270 --> 01:15:30,270
that I have dreams. Do you have dreams?

2153
01:15:30,270 --> 01:15:31,949
And and see, I look at it in

2154
01:15:31,949 --> 01:15:34,429
in a totally different aspect because I look

2155
01:15:34,429 --> 01:15:35,810
at it from the tech side.

2156
01:15:36,235 --> 01:15:38,475
Okay. Oh, that's valid. Because the tech side

2157
01:15:38,475 --> 01:15:40,635
is indicate And I'm like, what creates the

2158
01:15:40,635 --> 01:15:41,135
experience.

2159
01:15:41,835 --> 01:15:42,335
And

2160
01:15:42,954 --> 01:15:44,954
I mean, it's it's pie in the sky

2161
01:15:44,954 --> 01:15:47,114
because I think, like, you know, what Dream

2162
01:15:47,114 --> 01:15:49,114
big and manifestation and all that stuff. You

2163
01:15:49,114 --> 01:15:52,489
know, the evolution of of just about everything

2164
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:53,510
from, you know, what

2165
01:15:54,789 --> 01:15:56,890
not just how we have evolved,

2166
01:15:57,350 --> 01:16:00,090
but, you know, what comes next? LB

2167
01:16:00,710 --> 01:16:01,210
Holograms?

2168
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:03,449
Oh my god.

2169
01:16:04,069 --> 01:16:04,569
No.

2170
01:16:05,029 --> 01:16:05,529
No.

2171
01:16:06,484 --> 01:16:06,984
No.

2172
01:16:10,085 --> 01:16:10,585
No.

2173
01:16:11,604 --> 01:16:12,104
No.

2174
01:16:13,125 --> 01:16:13,784
You know,

2175
01:16:16,645 --> 01:16:18,645
I don't I have not figured out yet

2176
01:16:18,645 --> 01:16:21,520
if I've if I've been burnt out or

2177
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,340
if I'm still recovering from the the crises

2178
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:25,860
we endured for a few years.

2179
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:28,979
I am just

2180
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,659
really happy, like, right now with

2181
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,600
being able to figure out usually, but not

2182
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,074
always,

2183
01:16:36,635 --> 01:16:37,135
prior

2184
01:16:37,994 --> 01:16:40,715
like before the day of, we record or

2185
01:16:40,715 --> 01:16:42,715
a live stream what we're gonna talk about

2186
01:16:42,715 --> 01:16:45,935
and to feel like we're talking about things

2187
01:16:46,875 --> 01:16:47,375
that

2188
01:16:47,675 --> 01:16:48,494
are relatable

2189
01:16:49,170 --> 01:16:49,670
to,

2190
01:16:50,130 --> 01:16:51,729
you know, people who care about power exchange.

2191
01:16:51,729 --> 01:16:53,729
Because, like, not all kinky people want the

2192
01:16:53,729 --> 01:16:55,649
the relationship like like we've got. Like, they

2193
01:16:55,649 --> 01:16:56,770
don't want that kind of dynamic. They want

2194
01:16:56,770 --> 01:16:58,929
the kinky play. They want something casual. They

2195
01:16:58,929 --> 01:17:01,010
want they want something different than what we

2196
01:17:01,010 --> 01:17:01,989
talk about here.

2197
01:17:04,234 --> 01:17:05,854
But after ten years,

2198
01:17:06,234 --> 01:17:07,994
we have not talked about all of it,

2199
01:17:07,994 --> 01:17:09,514
but there comes a point where you start

2200
01:17:09,514 --> 01:17:11,614
feeling like, man, didn't I say that before?

2201
01:17:13,194 --> 01:17:15,675
And, you know, there's there's the fear of

2202
01:17:15,675 --> 01:17:17,215
not being that relevant,

2203
01:17:19,539 --> 01:17:21,539
you know, in a world where it feels

2204
01:17:21,539 --> 01:17:24,179
like more and more people have shorter attention

2205
01:17:24,179 --> 01:17:24,679
spans,

2206
01:17:25,779 --> 01:17:27,859
having hour to hour and a half long

2207
01:17:27,859 --> 01:17:30,500
podcast where it gets chaotic and sometimes, you

2208
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:32,054
know, I forget how words work.

2209
01:17:32,835 --> 01:17:33,494
You know,

2210
01:17:34,835 --> 01:17:35,335
I

2211
01:17:36,675 --> 01:17:36,914
I,

2212
01:17:38,034 --> 01:17:38,534
kind

2213
01:17:39,635 --> 01:17:41,554
of when I'm thinking about it, I have

2214
01:17:41,554 --> 01:17:42,994
to I feel like I have to think

2215
01:17:42,994 --> 01:17:44,520
about it in terms of what do I

2216
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,739
enjoy doing versus what do I think will

2217
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,359
I'm using this as a metaphor sell. Like

2218
01:17:50,359 --> 01:17:52,680
what will get people's attention? What will you

2219
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,420
know what will draw them in? And

2220
01:17:57,215 --> 01:18:00,274
I just wanna have interesting conversations that

2221
01:18:01,614 --> 01:18:04,335
will will be meaningful for people just trying

2222
01:18:04,335 --> 01:18:06,814
to live this fucking life with whatever the

2223
01:18:06,814 --> 01:18:08,514
rest of your life looks like. Right?

2224
01:18:09,295 --> 01:18:09,795
But

2225
01:18:10,255 --> 01:18:12,800
I always feel like I feel more confident

2226
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,559
when we're talking about topics that we can

2227
01:18:14,559 --> 01:18:16,559
relate directly about back to our power exchange,

2228
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:20,000
which does mean that sometimes it gets very

2229
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:20,500
boring.

2230
01:18:21,119 --> 01:18:22,880
Because it's like, we're not doing much, but

2231
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:24,099
you know?

2232
01:18:25,385 --> 01:18:27,725
So I don't I have not been

2233
01:18:28,425 --> 01:18:28,925
thinking

2234
01:18:29,304 --> 01:18:29,804
like,

2235
01:18:30,185 --> 01:18:32,585
you know, big things in terms of the

2236
01:18:32,585 --> 01:18:34,984
future. What I'm you know, when I think

2237
01:18:34,984 --> 01:18:36,904
of the future, I'm like, okay. I hope

2238
01:18:36,904 --> 01:18:38,265
we don't get I don't get bored because

2239
01:18:38,265 --> 01:18:40,185
man, the moment I get bored doing something,

2240
01:18:40,185 --> 01:18:41,390
it's like pulling teeth to get me to

2241
01:18:41,390 --> 01:18:42,909
do it. It's like, I don't I don't

2242
01:18:42,909 --> 01:18:44,829
wanna get bored doing this. I wanna keep

2243
01:18:44,829 --> 01:18:46,750
doing this until I don't wanna do this

2244
01:18:46,750 --> 01:18:47,250
anymore.

2245
01:18:48,350 --> 01:18:49,090
But also,

2246
01:18:51,229 --> 01:18:52,609
do I have anything to say?

2247
01:18:54,030 --> 01:18:55,010
Do you know,

2248
01:18:55,625 --> 01:18:56,925
is it is

2249
01:18:58,664 --> 01:19:00,984
it new enough or interesting enough where people

2250
01:19:00,984 --> 01:19:02,744
are like, yeah. I'll I'll give you an

2251
01:19:02,744 --> 01:19:04,125
hour and a half of my time.

2252
01:19:05,784 --> 01:19:08,585
So, like, I sometimes because I'm usually and

2253
01:19:08,585 --> 01:19:10,350
prior to probably a few years ago,

2254
01:19:11,149 --> 01:19:13,310
I was always like a a planner and

2255
01:19:13,310 --> 01:19:14,829
I had goals and had things I was

2256
01:19:14,829 --> 01:19:17,149
striving for. And the past couple years, I've

2257
01:19:17,149 --> 01:19:19,070
mostly just been trying to exist. And I

2258
01:19:19,070 --> 01:19:20,510
don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I

2259
01:19:20,510 --> 01:19:22,530
think living in the moment and just like

2260
01:19:22,905 --> 01:19:25,225
doing what you gotta do, that sometimes that's

2261
01:19:25,225 --> 01:19:27,145
just how people are. I was never like

2262
01:19:27,145 --> 01:19:28,824
that, but I think this time of my

2263
01:19:28,824 --> 01:19:31,545
life I am. So I don't when I

2264
01:19:31,545 --> 01:19:33,704
start thinking, should I set goals for the

2265
01:19:33,704 --> 01:19:36,039
podcast, for the YouTube channel, for I actually

2266
01:19:36,039 --> 01:19:37,100
get a little overwhelmed.

2267
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,539
Like, oh,

2268
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:40,439
no. I don't I don't know if I'm

2269
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:41,600
ready for that. And I you know, that

2270
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,119
there's lots of different reasons for that. Burnout

2271
01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:46,920
might be part of it. Recovery from crap

2272
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,220
might you know? Mhmm.

2273
01:19:49,185 --> 01:19:52,064
So it's more like I wanna keep doing

2274
01:19:52,064 --> 01:19:54,864
what we're doing in a way that is

2275
01:19:54,864 --> 01:19:56,944
interesting for the people who want interesting enough

2276
01:19:56,944 --> 01:19:58,224
for the people who wanna be here, who

2277
01:19:58,224 --> 01:20:00,465
are already here, that, you know, understand our

2278
01:20:00,465 --> 01:20:01,685
vibe, whatever whatever,

2279
01:20:02,989 --> 01:20:06,110
and say something that's, like, genuinely helpful, that's

2280
01:20:06,110 --> 01:20:08,210
genuinely relevant, that's, like,

2281
01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:10,989
doesn't feel like we're slogging through a topic

2282
01:20:10,989 --> 01:20:14,130
and your eyes are glazing over as we

2283
01:20:14,270 --> 01:20:15,250
slog. Right?

2284
01:20:17,875 --> 01:20:19,875
But, like, what new thing do I wanna

2285
01:20:19,875 --> 01:20:21,234
be on? Oh, no. Every time I think

2286
01:20:21,234 --> 01:20:22,675
about a different platform or a different way

2287
01:20:22,675 --> 01:20:24,835
of doing things, I I get either overwhelmed

2288
01:20:24,835 --> 01:20:25,814
or I get tired.

2289
01:20:28,675 --> 01:20:29,814
When I, you know,

2290
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:31,760
when I think about what kind of new

2291
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,279
content could we come up that's different than

2292
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:34,880
what we do, I'm like, no. I don't

2293
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,640
have any ideas right now. And if I,

2294
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,880
like, try to push myself, then I'm like,

2295
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,720
oh, I feel overwhelmed. So then I just

2296
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:41,220
don't.

2297
01:20:43,444 --> 01:20:44,164
You know, I'm

2298
01:20:45,684 --> 01:20:47,844
I feel bad for not having more dreams

2299
01:20:47,844 --> 01:20:49,925
and plans and a vision for the future.

2300
01:20:49,925 --> 01:20:50,425
Mhmm.

2301
01:20:51,444 --> 01:20:52,965
Because I what I don't wanna do, I

2302
01:20:52,965 --> 01:20:54,644
don't want us to stagnate. I don't want

2303
01:20:54,644 --> 01:20:56,449
us to, you know,

2304
01:20:57,390 --> 01:20:58,050
be unhelpful.

2305
01:21:00,909 --> 01:21:03,229
But I also know that I'm this is

2306
01:21:03,229 --> 01:21:04,909
about me personally. This is not about our

2307
01:21:04,909 --> 01:21:06,289
kink life. It's not about

2308
01:21:06,829 --> 01:21:07,489
the podcast.

2309
01:21:08,030 --> 01:21:09,710
I am at a place in life right

2310
01:21:09,710 --> 01:21:10,770
now where I

2311
01:21:12,055 --> 01:21:12,795
do not,

2312
01:21:14,295 --> 01:21:15,435
am not comfortable

2313
01:21:17,175 --> 01:21:20,055
with feeling like strangers have eyes on me.

2314
01:21:20,055 --> 01:21:22,614
Now let's be real. Parasocial relationships being what

2315
01:21:22,614 --> 01:21:23,274
they are.

2316
01:21:23,770 --> 01:21:25,449
For a handful of y'all, I've literally met

2317
01:21:25,449 --> 01:21:26,969
you in your life. You are not strangers

2318
01:21:26,969 --> 01:21:28,350
to me, but

2319
01:21:28,729 --> 01:21:30,729
the rest of you know way more about

2320
01:21:30,729 --> 01:21:32,409
us than I will ever know about you.

2321
01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:32,909
Right?

2322
01:21:33,609 --> 01:21:35,850
But it's different. Y'all y'all are here because

2323
01:21:35,850 --> 01:21:37,130
you want to be here. You get our

2324
01:21:37,130 --> 01:21:39,289
vibe. Like this is our kitchen table and

2325
01:21:39,289 --> 01:21:41,604
we're all, like, hanging out and talking. Right?

2326
01:21:42,385 --> 01:21:44,064
But when I think about ways we could

2327
01:21:44,064 --> 01:21:45,824
grow and things I could do and new

2328
01:21:45,824 --> 01:21:47,125
content I could create,

2329
01:21:47,505 --> 01:21:49,925
it means I'm gonna put myself out there

2330
01:21:50,064 --> 01:21:52,704
in places, like, on Instagram, where I enjoy

2331
01:21:52,704 --> 01:21:53,844
being mostly,

2332
01:21:54,819 --> 01:21:56,899
to people who don't know this vibe, who

2333
01:21:56,899 --> 01:21:58,920
don't know what I'm like, who don't,

2334
01:21:59,859 --> 01:22:02,359
you know, get my vibe.

2335
01:22:03,779 --> 01:22:05,779
And also I'd have to learn another new

2336
01:22:05,779 --> 01:22:07,619
skill in front of people. Like, I learned

2337
01:22:07,619 --> 01:22:09,314
how to podcast by podcasting.

2338
01:22:10,015 --> 01:22:12,335
I learned how to stream and make videos

2339
01:22:12,335 --> 01:22:13,935
by doing it. So I had to be

2340
01:22:13,935 --> 01:22:14,994
bad at something

2341
01:22:15,534 --> 01:22:16,895
and then put it out there for the

2342
01:22:16,895 --> 01:22:18,494
world and go, we'll try to do better

2343
01:22:18,494 --> 01:22:19,234
next time.

2344
01:22:19,614 --> 01:22:21,840
And, you know, there's a I gained a

2345
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,280
comfort level with that. Mhmm.

2346
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,439
But when I think about trying to do

2347
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,039
that now, like trying to learn how can

2348
01:22:27,039 --> 01:22:29,439
I can I do short form content? Can

2349
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:30,500
I be concise?

2350
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,800
Can I stick to a single point and

2351
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,784
get it out there in less than a

2352
01:22:34,784 --> 01:22:36,784
couple minutes and not ramble? And I'm like,

2353
01:22:36,784 --> 01:22:38,465
I would have to be bad at that

2354
01:22:38,465 --> 01:22:40,164
before I could get good at that.

2355
01:22:40,704 --> 01:22:42,965
And the idea of being bad at it

2356
01:22:43,185 --> 01:22:45,505
where people who don't know me necessarily and

2357
01:22:45,505 --> 01:22:47,585
don't know my vibe could see, I that's

2358
01:22:47,585 --> 01:22:50,220
very overwhelming to me right now. And I

2359
01:22:50,220 --> 01:22:51,980
don't like that feeling. Like, I I would

2360
01:22:51,980 --> 01:22:53,520
like to, like, work on that.

2361
01:22:55,260 --> 01:22:56,560
Just add it to the list.

2362
01:22:57,579 --> 01:22:59,020
But for me at this point, that's kind

2363
01:22:59,020 --> 01:23:00,380
of the way. It's like branching out into

2364
01:23:00,380 --> 01:23:02,480
different places Mhmm. And presenting

2365
01:23:03,175 --> 01:23:05,255
our thoughts and our views and the way

2366
01:23:05,255 --> 01:23:06,795
we see power exchange

2367
01:23:07,414 --> 01:23:09,255
in different ways so different people can find

2368
01:23:09,255 --> 01:23:11,094
us. You know? Because the world is a

2369
01:23:11,094 --> 01:23:13,335
little bit different than it was 10 ago.

2370
01:23:13,335 --> 01:23:15,255
Like, yes. There's still plenty of people who

2371
01:23:15,255 --> 01:23:16,854
read blogs who would prefer to read over

2372
01:23:16,854 --> 01:23:17,835
listen. Their

2373
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:20,070
podcasting is just growing. I mean, do I

2374
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:21,670
think maybe maybe there should be a test

2375
01:23:21,670 --> 01:23:23,130
before we let somebody get themselves

2376
01:23:23,670 --> 01:23:25,210
a microphone? Because some people

2377
01:23:26,869 --> 01:23:28,710
I'm not impressed with what they're doing with

2378
01:23:28,710 --> 01:23:30,570
their access to the Internet and a microphone.

2379
01:23:32,375 --> 01:23:33,595
Whole fucking manosphere.

2380
01:23:35,895 --> 01:23:36,395
But,

2381
01:23:37,015 --> 01:23:38,935
you know, so that's booming and huge. You

2382
01:23:38,935 --> 01:23:39,675
know, YouTube,

2383
01:23:40,375 --> 01:23:41,515
I've sort of

2384
01:23:43,949 --> 01:23:45,789
Settled is not the word. I've gotten comfortable

2385
01:23:45,789 --> 01:23:47,150
with the fact that we will probably We

2386
01:23:47,150 --> 01:23:49,650
will never go viral. That algorithm YouTube's algorithm

2387
01:23:49,710 --> 01:23:51,949
will never let us go viral. And I

2388
01:23:51,949 --> 01:23:54,930
will I am not currently interested in

2389
01:23:55,710 --> 01:23:58,670
worrying about the thumbnail so much or making

2390
01:23:58,670 --> 01:24:00,585
sure the title's like super catchy

2391
01:24:00,965 --> 01:24:03,204
or grabbing somebody's attention in the first like

2392
01:24:03,204 --> 01:24:03,944
two seconds

2393
01:24:04,405 --> 01:24:06,005
in order like I just want to be

2394
01:24:06,005 --> 01:24:07,925
who I am and let the people who

2395
01:24:07,925 --> 01:24:10,505
get it, you know, hopefully find us.

2396
01:24:10,885 --> 01:24:12,610
So I actually don't think think much about

2397
01:24:12,610 --> 01:24:14,530
YouTube growth at all. I think about how

2398
01:24:14,530 --> 01:24:16,050
can we make it better, a better experience

2399
01:24:16,050 --> 01:24:17,350
for the folks who are here.

2400
01:24:17,810 --> 01:24:19,890
How can it look better? Because that probably

2401
01:24:19,890 --> 01:24:21,909
drives me the craziest of anything.

2402
01:24:22,210 --> 01:24:23,729
But I don't think about how we're gonna

2403
01:24:23,729 --> 01:24:25,350
grow. I think about how do I

2404
01:24:26,015 --> 01:24:27,774
learn how to do it in short ways

2405
01:24:27,774 --> 01:24:28,274
to

2406
01:24:28,814 --> 01:24:30,655
to give people new ways of getting the

2407
01:24:30,655 --> 01:24:33,074
same information, in ways that they are consuming

2408
01:24:33,135 --> 01:24:35,135
information that ten years ago, that's not how

2409
01:24:35,135 --> 01:24:36,274
they were consuming information.

2410
01:24:36,814 --> 01:24:38,229
But it would require for me to be

2411
01:24:38,229 --> 01:24:40,310
bad at something publicly before I get good

2412
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:42,149
at it. I'm not saying I'm great at

2413
01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:44,390
it, but ten years on, I do things

2414
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:45,770
better than I used to.

2415
01:24:47,109 --> 01:24:48,869
And I just right now, I'm at a

2416
01:24:48,869 --> 01:24:50,869
I'm at a place in life where I

2417
01:24:50,869 --> 01:24:52,649
don't I don't have the

2418
01:24:53,265 --> 01:24:55,425
drive or the energy for that. It's it

2419
01:24:55,425 --> 01:24:56,244
feels overwhelming

2420
01:24:57,104 --> 01:24:58,625
and I don't want to do anything that

2421
01:24:58,625 --> 01:25:00,225
will make me not want to do this

2422
01:25:00,225 --> 01:25:01,524
that we're doing right now.

2423
01:25:02,064 --> 01:25:03,505
Yeah. I get it. I get it. I

2424
01:25:03,505 --> 01:25:05,505
do. So that was a very long winded

2425
01:25:05,505 --> 01:25:07,229
response because of course it is.

2426
01:25:07,949 --> 01:25:09,170
In terms of us,

2427
01:25:10,350 --> 01:25:12,029
I think we are in a better place

2428
01:25:12,029 --> 01:25:14,350
than we certainly were this time last year.

2429
01:25:14,350 --> 01:25:16,590
Yes. I mean, not just like like financial

2430
01:25:16,670 --> 01:25:19,149
I mean, in our power exchanges. Oh, yeah.

2431
01:25:19,149 --> 01:25:21,755
Specifically, what I'm referring to. I think that

2432
01:25:21,755 --> 01:25:23,454
we are being more mindful

2433
01:25:23,835 --> 01:25:25,054
about our power exchange.

2434
01:25:25,675 --> 01:25:28,474
I can kind of see a little bit

2435
01:25:28,474 --> 01:25:30,875
of, like, a just a pinpoint light at

2436
01:25:30,875 --> 01:25:32,474
the end of the tunnel that is the

2437
01:25:32,474 --> 01:25:33,375
end of the tunnel

2438
01:25:33,789 --> 01:25:36,109
of one day we will have the freedom

2439
01:25:36,109 --> 01:25:38,510
to make sure our fur babies are taken

2440
01:25:38,510 --> 01:25:39,550
care of. But we can come and go

2441
01:25:39,550 --> 01:25:40,750
and maybe we can walk around our house

2442
01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:42,270
naked and maybe we can, like, do kinky

2443
01:25:42,270 --> 01:25:44,109
shit in our living room, you know. I

2444
01:25:44,109 --> 01:25:46,029
can kind of see that day sort of

2445
01:25:46,029 --> 01:25:46,850
on the horizon.

2446
01:25:50,354 --> 01:25:52,435
It's funny in general in life, but certainly

2447
01:25:52,435 --> 01:25:54,594
as a parent, you think you know how

2448
01:25:54,594 --> 01:25:56,274
these things are gonna go as they get

2449
01:25:56,274 --> 01:25:58,135
older and you raise children and then

2450
01:25:58,675 --> 01:26:00,514
and then they go completely differently and you're

2451
01:26:00,514 --> 01:26:03,014
like, oh, okay. I gotta adjust expectations.

2452
01:26:05,770 --> 01:26:07,469
So, you know, that that

2453
01:26:08,250 --> 01:26:10,890
I get excited about that, you know. Mhmm.

2454
01:26:10,890 --> 01:26:13,210
Yeah. And I think, okay. What what can

2455
01:26:13,210 --> 01:26:14,510
we get up to,

2456
01:26:15,689 --> 01:26:17,289
when we feel like we have more freedom

2457
01:26:17,289 --> 01:26:18,729
to get to it? And I I even

2458
01:26:18,729 --> 01:26:19,095
think

2459
01:26:19,574 --> 01:26:21,574
sooner than that, I think, okay, as we

2460
01:26:21,574 --> 01:26:24,295
have the financial resources to leave our fucking

2461
01:26:24,295 --> 01:26:26,235
house to go do kinky shit,

2462
01:26:26,854 --> 01:26:29,255
okay, can we, you know, when can we

2463
01:26:29,255 --> 01:26:31,354
get back to that? Mhmm. But again,

2464
01:26:31,975 --> 01:26:33,034
for me personally,

2465
01:26:34,170 --> 01:26:36,010
I don't think just like you worry about

2466
01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:37,689
you know, we talked about this last week,

2467
01:26:37,689 --> 01:26:40,250
week before, you worry sometimes, like, everything's gonna

2468
01:26:40,409 --> 01:26:41,770
like, the good that we've got right now

2469
01:26:41,770 --> 01:26:43,550
and the progress we've made, it's gonna just

2470
01:26:43,689 --> 01:26:44,969
go away at some point and you have

2471
01:26:45,050 --> 01:26:47,130
you're kind of on edge. Right. Yeah. We

2472
01:26:47,130 --> 01:26:49,069
we were talking I was saying, you know,

2473
01:26:49,369 --> 01:26:50,085
I'm I'm

2474
01:26:50,564 --> 01:26:51,465
last year

2475
01:26:52,085 --> 01:26:54,005
is still a little too fresh, and there

2476
01:26:54,005 --> 01:26:55,925
are times I'm just wait for the bottom

2477
01:26:55,925 --> 01:26:58,104
to drop out. Yeah. Yeah. And I

2478
01:26:58,725 --> 01:27:01,145
I have a little bit of that myself

2479
01:27:01,444 --> 01:27:02,664
in terms of

2480
01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:05,270
trying to plan for the future

2481
01:27:05,810 --> 01:27:06,310
because

2482
01:27:06,770 --> 01:27:07,590
I spent

2483
01:27:08,449 --> 01:27:09,510
three or four years

2484
01:27:10,130 --> 01:27:11,890
telling you and planning next year is gonna

2485
01:27:11,890 --> 01:27:13,570
be better. In six months, it's gonna be

2486
01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:15,590
better. And I don't have the trust yet

2487
01:27:15,890 --> 01:27:17,409
that I can do that. And I think

2488
01:27:17,409 --> 01:27:19,425
that that's a that's a little bit of

2489
01:27:19,425 --> 01:27:20,985
it. I'm I feel like I'm being a

2490
01:27:20,985 --> 01:27:22,364
downer, and I am sorry.

2491
01:27:23,625 --> 01:27:25,225
I also feel like I'm gonna get yet

2492
01:27:25,225 --> 01:27:28,445
another thing that's like, you need therapy.

2493
01:27:29,625 --> 01:27:32,025
I did I did get that. Yeah. I

2494
01:27:32,025 --> 01:27:34,185
want to believe, because I'm not a total

2495
01:27:34,185 --> 01:27:35,909
bitch, that that came from a good place.

2496
01:27:35,909 --> 01:27:37,909
I do think the delivery could have been

2497
01:27:37,909 --> 01:27:38,409
better.

2498
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:40,869
It's like, yeah. I know. I I keep

2499
01:27:40,869 --> 01:27:42,390
saying that. Like, every episode, I'm like, oh,

2500
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:43,449
I could use some therapy.

2501
01:27:43,909 --> 01:27:45,590
There's a good chance we might not have

2502
01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:47,529
health insurance next year because

2503
01:27:47,944 --> 01:27:49,885
we live in America and for,

2504
01:27:50,984 --> 01:27:53,385
because the subsidies that we depended on to

2505
01:27:53,385 --> 01:27:55,864
afford insurance Are going away. Are going away.

2506
01:27:55,864 --> 01:27:56,364
So

2507
01:27:57,225 --> 01:27:59,064
I'm just gonna be like, can I just

2508
01:27:59,064 --> 01:28:02,125
afford to go get my hormone replacement therapy

2509
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,560
appointments and medications? That's all I care about

2510
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,239
right now. Oh, yeah. Maybe my blood pressure

2511
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:07,779
meds. Yeah. Yeah.

2512
01:28:09,119 --> 01:28:10,159
You know, it's like there's

2513
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:12,100
yeah.

2514
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:13,439
So

2515
01:28:14,319 --> 01:28:14,819
Anyhow.

2516
01:28:15,359 --> 01:28:17,545
I know. I brought my self down. Oh

2517
01:28:17,545 --> 01:28:18,764
my god. Mhmm.

2518
01:28:21,784 --> 01:28:24,104
My dream for the future is that we

2519
01:28:24,104 --> 01:28:25,244
will keep doing this

2520
01:28:25,704 --> 01:28:27,944
even when it's, like, just, like, six of

2521
01:28:27,944 --> 01:28:28,844
y'all left.

2522
01:28:30,664 --> 01:28:32,239
And we're like, yeah. But we're

2523
01:28:32,779 --> 01:28:33,979
we're we're hanging out and having a good

2524
01:28:33,979 --> 01:28:34,479
time.

2525
01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:38,460
And that, you know, we will keep working

2526
01:28:38,460 --> 01:28:41,359
on our power exchange in meaningful ways. Right.

2527
01:28:41,739 --> 01:28:43,659
And I don't know. I think that's that's

2528
01:28:43,659 --> 01:28:45,100
it. I don't wanna try and predict if

2529
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:46,274
what the future will look like because I

2530
01:28:46,274 --> 01:28:47,654
got it wrong for some fucking

2531
01:28:48,994 --> 01:28:50,594
so now I'm just like, I just wanna

2532
01:28:50,594 --> 01:28:52,515
keep working on what we're working on and

2533
01:28:52,515 --> 01:28:55,475
let and find out what the future holds

2534
01:28:55,475 --> 01:28:57,715
and find and find out what that is

2535
01:28:57,715 --> 01:29:00,750
and, you know, figure out who we are

2536
01:29:00,750 --> 01:29:01,889
as we go along.

2537
01:29:02,349 --> 01:29:04,429
And, you know, there's a it's a little

2538
01:29:04,429 --> 01:29:06,270
bit of, like, kind of living in the

2539
01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:08,270
moment. I wish it came from that, like,

2540
01:29:08,270 --> 01:29:10,429
Zen meditative place of this is a really

2541
01:29:10,429 --> 01:29:12,154
good thing to do for your mental health

2542
01:29:12,154 --> 01:29:13,354
is to live in the moment. And it's

2543
01:29:13,354 --> 01:29:15,055
actually no. It's all fear based.

2544
01:29:16,074 --> 01:29:17,675
But if the outcome is the same, it

2545
01:29:17,675 --> 01:29:18,734
counts. Right?

2546
01:29:20,314 --> 01:29:21,055
So yeah.

2547
01:29:22,555 --> 01:29:23,055
Yeah.

2548
01:29:23,755 --> 01:29:25,774
You know, I'm I'm grateful. I'm grateful.

2549
01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:28,920
I'm grateful to you, my loving daddy dom,

2550
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,880
for every step along the way going, yeah.

2551
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,639
I support you. We're like, let's see what

2552
01:29:33,639 --> 01:29:34,460
we can do.

2553
01:29:36,279 --> 01:29:37,979
I'm grateful that,

2554
01:29:38,359 --> 01:29:39,099
you know,

2555
01:29:40,564 --> 01:29:42,085
I still have feel like I have something

2556
01:29:42,085 --> 01:29:45,445
to say. I'm so fucking grateful for everybody

2557
01:29:45,445 --> 01:29:45,945
who

2558
01:29:46,405 --> 01:29:47,465
listens, watches

2559
01:29:47,845 --> 01:29:50,645
Mhmm. You know, shares with the kinky people

2560
01:29:50,645 --> 01:29:52,164
you know. They're like, oh, no. Maybe this

2561
01:29:52,164 --> 01:29:53,685
can help you or they're talking about this

2562
01:29:53,685 --> 01:29:56,239
thing you're talking about, you know. I'm I'm

2563
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:58,159
grateful for the messages we get and the

2564
01:29:58,159 --> 01:30:00,000
comments we get where somebody's like, oh my

2565
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,699
god. It's like you just, like,

2566
01:30:02,079 --> 01:30:04,960
are in my my relationship. This is exactly

2567
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,280
what we're going through. Because, you know, the

2568
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,940
reason I started blogging back in 2012

2569
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,904
2012? 2011. I started blogging my fucking sex

2570
01:30:12,904 --> 01:30:14,824
life. Let's put it that way. 2010?

2571
01:30:14,824 --> 01:30:17,304
I don't even remember anymore. Okay? That's how

2572
01:30:17,304 --> 01:30:19,625
fucking long it's long ago it's been. But

2573
01:30:19,625 --> 01:30:22,904
the reason I started blogging my, like, sexual

2574
01:30:22,904 --> 01:30:25,545
awakening and my kink awakening and then, you

2575
01:30:25,545 --> 01:30:28,220
know, my kinky relationship and my is because

2576
01:30:28,220 --> 01:30:30,140
I was realizing very quickly I was not

2577
01:30:30,140 --> 01:30:32,300
the only one going through these things, thinking

2578
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:35,039
these things, feeling these things, questioning these things.

2579
01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:37,500
And even if, you know, not everybody can

2580
01:30:37,500 --> 01:30:38,479
relate to everything

2581
01:30:38,806 --> 01:30:41,579
Mhmm. Somebody will. And somebody else out there

2582
01:30:41,579 --> 01:30:42,595
will go, oh my god. Okay. I'm not

2583
01:30:42,595 --> 01:30:44,515
alone. I'm not the only one. You know?

2584
01:30:44,515 --> 01:30:46,835
Other people deal with this too, and I

2585
01:30:46,835 --> 01:30:48,114
have to figure out my way of dealing

2586
01:30:48,114 --> 01:30:49,155
with it, but how'd they deal with it?

2587
01:30:49,155 --> 01:30:51,314
Maybe I can, like, get a hint there.

2588
01:30:51,314 --> 01:30:52,614
Maybe I can whatever.

2589
01:30:53,074 --> 01:30:53,574
And,

2590
01:30:54,114 --> 01:30:56,460
you know, to when I when I get

2591
01:30:56,460 --> 01:30:58,060
those messages or I get those comments and

2592
01:30:58,060 --> 01:30:59,500
people are like, oh my gosh. Thank you.

2593
01:30:59,500 --> 01:30:59,899
Like, it's

2594
01:31:01,020 --> 01:31:02,319
it does not matter

2595
01:31:02,859 --> 01:31:04,779
how many mean comments on the Internet I've

2596
01:31:04,779 --> 01:31:06,300
gotten that week. I'm like, oh my god.

2597
01:31:06,300 --> 01:31:07,819
That's this is worth it. This is why

2598
01:31:07,819 --> 01:31:09,340
we do it. Yeah. This is why we

2599
01:31:09,340 --> 01:31:10,375
do it.

2600
01:31:11,475 --> 01:31:13,814
But also I'm my own biggest critic, so

2601
01:31:14,275 --> 01:31:15,954
I usually walk away from episodes going, oh

2602
01:31:15,954 --> 01:31:17,735
my god. Why did you say that?

2603
01:31:18,755 --> 01:31:19,814
What the fuck?

2604
01:31:20,914 --> 01:31:22,595
And I am always deeply uncomfortable after I've

2605
01:31:22,595 --> 01:31:23,494
been really vulnerable on an

2606
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,173
vulnerable on an episode because I'm like, that

2607
01:31:27,173 --> 01:31:28,560
was too much. You did too much that

2608
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:29,060
time

2609
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,820
that you just cracked your whole chest

2610
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,220
open. Nope. Nope. Don't do that.

2611
01:31:35,039 --> 01:31:37,505
But then I keep doing it. So true

2612
01:31:37,505 --> 01:31:39,024
true. I guess at this point, it's in

2613
01:31:39,024 --> 01:31:40,085
my blood and soul

2614
01:31:40,425 --> 01:31:40,925
and

2615
01:31:41,264 --> 01:31:43,284
everything. It's just this is.

2616
01:31:43,824 --> 01:31:45,284
Yeah. This is what we do.

2617
01:31:48,064 --> 01:31:50,400
I've now brought myself down. I'm so sorry.

2618
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:51,539
This is a celebration.

2619
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,439
But I will stop. Before we go into

2620
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,039
the bonus section, I'll just remind everybody we

2621
01:31:57,039 --> 01:32:00,239
have, our podcast anniversary giveaway. Mhmm.

2622
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,300
Four prizes up for grabs. They're, like, ranked.

2623
01:32:04,444 --> 01:32:05,744
The link is in the places.

2624
01:32:07,085 --> 01:32:09,164
There's multiple ways to enter, and it's open

2625
01:32:09,164 --> 01:32:09,664
until

2626
01:32:10,284 --> 01:32:11,724
11:59PM

2627
01:32:11,724 --> 01:32:14,284
eastern on the August.

2628
01:32:14,284 --> 01:32:16,045
I think that's the thirty first, but y'all

2629
01:32:16,045 --> 01:32:17,729
know how I am with dates. I never

2630
01:32:17,729 --> 01:32:20,369
know them. Whatever the August

2631
01:32:20,369 --> 01:32:22,470
is. That's what it's open till.

2632
01:32:25,329 --> 01:32:25,829
Yeah.

2633
01:32:26,449 --> 01:32:26,949
So

2634
01:32:28,369 --> 01:32:30,289
we could do a bonus section now, and

2635
01:32:30,289 --> 01:32:32,609
you can, like, lighten me up because you're

2636
01:32:32,609 --> 01:32:33,635
very good at

2637
01:32:34,014 --> 01:32:36,034
that. So are we good? I don't know.

2638
01:32:36,335 --> 01:32:38,274
Probably not. Probably not.

2639
01:32:40,255 --> 01:32:42,335
Keep it kinky y'all. And we'll see you

2640
01:32:42,335 --> 01:32:44,014
next year and maybe for the next ten

2641
01:32:44,014 --> 01:32:44,514
years.

2642
01:32:54,179 --> 01:32:56,579
Next year, next week, and for the next

2643
01:32:56,579 --> 01:32:57,399
ten. Wow.

2644
01:32:59,304 --> 01:33:01,085
Words, they've been a problem

2645
01:33:01,465 --> 01:33:03,965
all night. I see that. I see that.

2646
01:33:04,264 --> 01:33:04,764
God.

2647
01:33:05,385 --> 01:33:07,224
I see that. Next week. And then hopefully

2648
01:33:07,224 --> 01:33:08,904
for the next ten year. So what happens

2649
01:33:08,904 --> 01:33:10,744
when my thoughts are faster than my mouth

2650
01:33:10,744 --> 01:33:12,664
or my mouth is faster than my thought?

2651
01:33:12,664 --> 01:33:14,729
I don't ever know which one. One. Okay.

2652
01:33:14,789 --> 01:33:15,530
All that.

2653
01:33:16,710 --> 01:33:19,030
Can we talk to the crickets? Yeah. Okay.

2654
01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:21,609
Please please do some talking. I am just

2655
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:25,430
not the light of the part life of

2656
01:33:25,430 --> 01:33:26,414
the party right now.

2657
01:33:27,375 --> 01:33:29,055
Not because I'm sad. I'm not. I just

2658
01:33:29,055 --> 01:33:31,155
was thinking about deep things and Yeah.

2659
01:33:31,935 --> 01:33:32,574
Well, we just,

2660
01:33:33,135 --> 01:33:33,635
we,

2661
01:33:35,135 --> 01:33:37,454
we we wrapped up the season two of

2662
01:33:37,454 --> 01:33:40,175
Gilded Age. Season three. Three. That's right. Three.

2663
01:33:40,175 --> 01:33:43,390
Oh, it was so good. Yeah. And and

2664
01:33:44,010 --> 01:33:45,949
the last episode had us debating

2665
01:33:46,649 --> 01:33:47,149
about

2666
01:33:47,850 --> 01:33:48,350
misogyny

2667
01:33:48,969 --> 01:33:51,310
and societal expectations of men and women,

2668
01:33:51,770 --> 01:33:52,250
and,

2669
01:33:52,649 --> 01:33:54,429
I I I am a Bertha

2670
01:33:54,795 --> 01:33:57,675
stan. I fucking love her. I do. She's

2671
01:33:57,675 --> 01:33:58,654
ballsy, man.

2672
01:33:59,114 --> 01:34:01,135
I I just love and I I cannot

2673
01:34:01,194 --> 01:34:01,694
remember

2674
01:34:02,154 --> 01:34:03,534
his real name,

2675
01:34:04,314 --> 01:34:05,354
but I love how,

2676
01:34:06,715 --> 01:34:07,215
George

2677
01:34:07,515 --> 01:34:10,609
has become railroad daddy. Online. Yeah. The Internet

2678
01:34:10,609 --> 01:34:13,909
has is referring to the actor. Railroad daddy.

2679
01:34:14,050 --> 01:34:14,550
Yeah.

2680
01:34:15,409 --> 01:34:16,310
Railroad daddy.

2681
01:34:17,409 --> 01:34:18,229
And, you know,

2682
01:34:18,609 --> 01:34:19,109
that

2683
01:34:19,649 --> 01:34:21,590
we've said it before. We'll say it again.

2684
01:34:21,965 --> 01:34:24,064
Keep saying it. Daddy is a vibe.

2685
01:34:24,764 --> 01:34:28,204
And yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. The moment I saw

2686
01:34:28,204 --> 01:34:28,704
that,

2687
01:34:29,005 --> 01:34:31,324
I'm now current well, I'm currently on on

2688
01:34:31,324 --> 01:34:34,045
Instagram on the gilded age side of the

2689
01:34:34,045 --> 01:34:36,045
algorithm. So I got all this gilded age,

2690
01:34:36,045 --> 01:34:38,149
and I'm like, stop. I'm watching. I'm watching

2691
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:41,350
people's reviews. I'm watching the analysis of the

2692
01:34:41,350 --> 01:34:43,829
costume, the this, the that, the whatever. And

2693
01:34:43,829 --> 01:34:44,329
also,

2694
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:48,149
where oh, what is the is it Morgan

2695
01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:49,935
Spector? Is that the name of actor who

2696
01:34:49,935 --> 01:34:51,614
plays George Russell on The Gilded Age? If

2697
01:34:51,614 --> 01:34:53,454
you have access to watch The Gilded Age,

2698
01:34:53,454 --> 01:34:54,895
highly recommend. Mhmm.

2699
01:34:55,854 --> 01:34:57,614
But I've seen him, like, outside of the

2700
01:34:57,614 --> 01:34:58,114
character,

2701
01:34:58,574 --> 01:35:01,055
thanks to, like, Instagram algorithm. Mhmm. And I'm

2702
01:35:01,055 --> 01:35:01,500
like,

2703
01:35:02,220 --> 01:35:04,380
yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. I'm down for that. I'm

2704
01:35:04,380 --> 01:35:05,819
down for that. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know,

2705
01:35:05,819 --> 01:35:07,899
it's funny because yeah. Now that I've seen

2706
01:35:07,899 --> 01:35:08,619
some of his,

2707
01:35:10,380 --> 01:35:13,359
you know, little reels and stuff off Mhmm.

2708
01:35:13,579 --> 01:35:14,720
Set, so to speak,

2709
01:35:15,260 --> 01:35:16,239
totally different

2710
01:35:16,935 --> 01:35:19,494
demeanor. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He looks fun.

2711
01:35:19,494 --> 01:35:21,114
Mhmm. He looks super fun. Yeah.

2712
01:35:21,734 --> 01:35:24,135
Yeah. I mean, his his character is very

2713
01:35:24,135 --> 01:35:27,095
intense. Mhmm. I have to say, this is

2714
01:35:27,975 --> 01:35:29,734
I probably thought this when we watched Downton

2715
01:35:29,734 --> 01:35:31,159
Abbey. It's just been so long now. I

2716
01:35:31,159 --> 01:35:33,560
don't remember. But Gilded Age is one of

2717
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,640
the few shows I think that I've gotten

2718
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,020
into over the years

2719
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,360
where each season in my mind is better

2720
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:41,340
than the one before.

2721
01:35:42,135 --> 01:35:44,314
Like, when we watched Bridgerton, I enjoyed Bridgerton,

2722
01:35:44,534 --> 01:35:46,154
but there were were, like,

2723
01:35:46,534 --> 01:35:48,215
there were some moments I was like, no.

2724
01:35:48,215 --> 01:35:49,654
I like the last one better. I like

2725
01:35:49,654 --> 01:35:50,635
the last like,

2726
01:35:51,335 --> 01:35:53,175
I mean, this is okay. Quite frankly, out

2727
01:35:53,175 --> 01:35:55,734
of the whole, Bridgerton universe, it's Queen Charlotte

2728
01:35:55,734 --> 01:35:56,850
I fucking love.

2729
01:35:58,350 --> 01:36:01,070
That that little, like, side series has actually

2730
01:36:01,070 --> 01:36:03,789
been my favorite. But with Gilded Age, like

2731
01:36:03,949 --> 01:36:05,630
and the reason I brought up Downton Abbey

2732
01:36:05,630 --> 01:36:07,310
as a comparison, if you don't if you're

2733
01:36:07,310 --> 01:36:09,475
not aware, the creator of Downton Abbey is

2734
01:36:09,475 --> 01:36:11,235
the creator of The Gilded Age. Mhmm.

2735
01:36:12,675 --> 01:36:14,675
And so there are there are people make

2736
01:36:14,675 --> 01:36:17,954
parallel, like, comparisons to those two between those

2737
01:36:17,954 --> 01:36:20,114
two shows because of that. But somebody said

2738
01:36:20,114 --> 01:36:20,614
online,

2739
01:36:24,050 --> 01:36:24,550
Gladys,

2740
01:36:25,250 --> 01:36:27,969
who Mhmm. Her her mama, Bertha, married her

2741
01:36:27,969 --> 01:36:29,569
off to a duke because she was gonna

2742
01:36:29,569 --> 01:36:30,949
make sure that Gladys

2743
01:36:31,329 --> 01:36:33,270
was, like, had the best

2744
01:36:34,305 --> 01:36:37,125
societal advantage she could. They,

2745
01:36:37,824 --> 01:36:40,945
somebody made the comparison that Gladys' marriage to

2746
01:36:40,945 --> 01:36:41,604
the duke

2747
01:36:41,905 --> 01:36:42,725
is essentially

2748
01:36:44,305 --> 01:36:46,465
I cannot remember the character's name, but the

2749
01:36:46,465 --> 01:36:49,045
American mom in the in Downton Abbey,

2750
01:36:52,359 --> 01:36:53,020
the wife.

2751
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,520
I think yeah. Yeah. That's this Gladys is

2752
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:57,179
her backstory.

2753
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:58,939
Gladys' story is her backstory.

2754
01:36:59,960 --> 01:37:01,845
And if you have not watched or cared

2755
01:37:01,845 --> 01:37:03,125
about any of these shows, you're gonna be

2756
01:37:03,125 --> 01:37:05,225
like, what the fuck are they talking about?

2757
01:37:05,444 --> 01:37:07,385
Gilded Age is amazing, and I

2758
01:37:07,765 --> 01:37:08,664
fell down

2759
01:37:09,045 --> 01:37:11,125
the inner the Instagram rabbit hole with it

2760
01:37:11,125 --> 01:37:12,265
is all I'm saying.

2761
01:37:13,780 --> 01:37:15,699
So, yes, it was it was very good.

2762
01:37:15,699 --> 01:37:17,560
It is. It is. It's very good.

2763
01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:21,619
Lola had to go to the eye doctor

2764
01:37:21,939 --> 01:37:23,939
Yeah. This week. It was a six month

2765
01:37:23,939 --> 01:37:25,079
checkup. Mhmm.

2766
01:37:27,140 --> 01:37:27,640
She

2767
01:37:28,515 --> 01:37:30,935
did not wanna be there. No.

2768
01:37:31,475 --> 01:37:32,875
They and they don't I mean, they look

2769
01:37:32,994 --> 01:37:34,435
they get real close to her eye, and

2770
01:37:34,435 --> 01:37:36,594
I'm squidgy about stuff near my eye, so

2771
01:37:36,594 --> 01:37:38,054
I get it. But they also

2772
01:37:38,994 --> 01:37:40,739
agree with us. The calories don't count when

2773
01:37:40,739 --> 01:37:42,579
when you're at the doctor. And so they're

2774
01:37:42,579 --> 01:37:44,820
just they're taking regular sized treats and breaking

2775
01:37:44,820 --> 01:37:46,420
them up into, like, 10 pieces, but they're

2776
01:37:46,420 --> 01:37:48,340
feeding her treats all the time. And she

2777
01:37:48,340 --> 01:37:50,280
still tried to sit in JV's lap.

2778
01:37:50,739 --> 01:37:52,520
So in their exam room,

2779
01:37:53,060 --> 01:37:55,239
there's lots of open space because, like, the

2780
01:37:55,460 --> 01:37:57,715
the vet and the the tech or whatever

2781
01:37:57,715 --> 01:37:59,795
are on the floor trying to get down

2782
01:37:59,795 --> 01:38:00,454
to, like,

2783
01:38:00,755 --> 01:38:02,994
her level to Mhmm. Check her eyes. But

2784
01:38:02,994 --> 01:38:05,494
there's, like, a couch. It's it's, like, lower

2785
01:38:05,555 --> 01:38:07,555
and more comfy than what we have at

2786
01:38:07,555 --> 01:38:10,079
our vet's office. Yeah. And Lola jumps up

2787
01:38:10,079 --> 01:38:11,060
there. Mhmm.

2788
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,600
Is there only two square inches of space

2789
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,159
for her? Yes. She still jumps up. And

2790
01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:19,119
this whole visit to just check on her

2791
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:20,720
eye because there's she's got a roll one

2792
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:21,619
hazy eye.

2793
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:22,500
Her

2794
01:38:23,039 --> 01:38:25,300
face was buried in JB's

2795
01:38:25,645 --> 01:38:26,145
chest.

2796
01:38:26,764 --> 01:38:28,685
They lit the the doctor's like, do you

2797
01:38:28,685 --> 01:38:30,204
mind if I do some of this exam

2798
01:38:30,204 --> 01:38:31,965
while she's right here with you? Because I'm

2799
01:38:31,965 --> 01:38:34,145
gonna be real close to you too. Yeah.

2800
01:38:35,725 --> 01:38:37,804
I had no problem. She was actually sitting

2801
01:38:37,804 --> 01:38:38,304
still

2802
01:38:39,289 --> 01:38:41,050
while she was in my lap, and she

2803
01:38:41,050 --> 01:38:43,690
wasn't still wasn't happy about it. Yeah. I

2804
01:38:43,690 --> 01:38:44,190
know.

2805
01:38:44,730 --> 01:38:46,890
She didn't mind that hamburger patty. She got

2806
01:38:46,890 --> 01:38:49,230
a treat after her. She got that that

2807
01:38:49,530 --> 01:38:50,430
prime treat

2808
01:38:51,130 --> 01:38:51,630
afterwards.

2809
01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:52,829
We don't do

2810
01:38:53,130 --> 01:38:55,015
we don't do, like, drive through hamburgers or

2811
01:38:55,015 --> 01:38:57,194
anything like that very often, and we it's

2812
01:38:57,574 --> 01:39:00,074
just the patty. Like, not the bun either.

2813
01:39:02,454 --> 01:39:04,135
She takes it from me real sweet. Like,

2814
01:39:04,135 --> 01:39:05,734
we'll be driving like, Jamie's driving down the

2815
01:39:05,734 --> 01:39:06,935
road and I'm feeding her a treat after

2816
01:39:06,935 --> 01:39:08,375
I cool it off for it. Don't wanna

2817
01:39:08,375 --> 01:39:09,435
burn her mouth.

2818
01:39:11,399 --> 01:39:13,640
And when it's me doing it, she's real

2819
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,960
gentle, takes out of my hand real sweet.

2820
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,000
Most of the time, every once in a

2821
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:18,840
while, she'll accidentally knit me with JB. She's

2822
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:19,340
like,

2823
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,460
daddy's giving me food and the aggression.

2824
01:39:23,399 --> 01:39:25,114
She's She's trying to take your whole hand.

2825
01:39:25,114 --> 01:39:27,295
And it and it's not no. You know,

2826
01:39:27,515 --> 01:39:29,375
it's not I not aggression.

2827
01:39:29,755 --> 01:39:31,275
No. I mean, yeah. That's too strong of

2828
01:39:31,275 --> 01:39:32,095
a word. It's,

2829
01:39:33,755 --> 01:39:36,235
excitement. Oh. Oh. Yeah. But she forgets herself.

2830
01:39:36,235 --> 01:39:37,614
Yes. She's all teeth.

2831
01:39:38,189 --> 01:39:38,689
Mhmm.

2832
01:39:39,710 --> 01:39:42,130
Yeah. I sometimes I need to

2833
01:39:42,909 --> 01:39:44,909
Sometimes you have to use your, like, big

2834
01:39:44,909 --> 01:39:46,590
d voice on her to get her to

2835
01:39:46,590 --> 01:39:48,829
back the fuck up. And I'm, like, well,

2836
01:39:48,829 --> 01:39:50,350
I'm backing up too. I know what that

2837
01:39:50,350 --> 01:39:51,170
voice means.

2838
01:39:51,630 --> 01:39:53,489
You and me, girl. We'll back up together.

2839
01:39:53,675 --> 01:39:55,295
He he means it this time.

2840
01:39:59,354 --> 01:40:01,994
So so, yeah, that that was an ordeal

2841
01:40:01,994 --> 01:40:02,875
for her. Yeah.

2842
01:40:03,195 --> 01:40:05,435
We came home covered in fur because she

2843
01:40:05,675 --> 01:40:07,994
Oh, stress shedding. She yeah. It was just

2844
01:40:07,994 --> 01:40:09,539
coming off in clutch. She's a very short

2845
01:40:09,539 --> 01:40:11,219
haired dog. She's a pity if you've never,

2846
01:40:11,219 --> 01:40:12,819
like, seen a picture of her. She's gonna

2847
01:40:12,819 --> 01:40:13,939
have a lot of hair, but it just

2848
01:40:13,939 --> 01:40:15,560
comes off her in clumps at the vet.

2849
01:40:15,619 --> 01:40:17,460
And then because she was sitting between us

2850
01:40:17,460 --> 01:40:20,099
on this, like, couch kind of thing, smaller

2851
01:40:20,099 --> 01:40:22,659
than a loveseat, it's ice it is small.

2852
01:40:22,659 --> 01:40:23,055
Yeah.

2853
01:40:23,854 --> 01:40:26,335
Her ass was pressed into my leg while

2854
01:40:26,335 --> 01:40:28,735
her face was pressed into JB. And I

2855
01:40:28,735 --> 01:40:30,595
come out of the vet's office

2856
01:40:31,055 --> 01:40:33,314
and the my whole leg, my hip

2857
01:40:33,775 --> 01:40:35,854
is you can't see the pants. It was

2858
01:40:35,854 --> 01:40:37,775
a little just Hair. Coated in fur. I

2859
01:40:37,775 --> 01:40:38,310
was like,

2860
01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:40,489
this is delightful.

2861
01:40:40,949 --> 01:40:41,930
I love this.

2862
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:44,710
But she still loves us and she didn't

2863
01:40:44,710 --> 01:40:46,390
give us side eye when we got home.

2864
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:48,229
So I I think I think the hamburger

2865
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:51,109
patty did its job. She's she's laying at

2866
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:52,949
my feet now. So, you know I think

2867
01:40:52,949 --> 01:40:54,255
it helped that she got Zoomies before we

2868
01:40:54,255 --> 01:40:56,034
started recording plus streaming.

2869
01:40:56,734 --> 01:40:58,414
Yeah. Because she got it out of her

2870
01:40:58,414 --> 01:41:00,494
system. She's she's been doing pretty good with

2871
01:41:00,494 --> 01:41:02,895
that. We I think it seems we've got

2872
01:41:02,895 --> 01:41:03,395
her,

2873
01:41:04,255 --> 01:41:05,875
doing good with her meds.

2874
01:41:06,539 --> 01:41:07,039
Yeah.

2875
01:41:07,579 --> 01:41:08,859
I mean, you were the big meanie that

2876
01:41:08,859 --> 01:41:10,939
cleaned her ears out today. I know. She

2877
01:41:10,939 --> 01:41:12,699
hates that. Oh, she oh, she hate that

2878
01:41:12,699 --> 01:41:13,599
with a passion.

2879
01:41:14,059 --> 01:41:15,739
But I saw her start to do the

2880
01:41:15,979 --> 01:41:17,739
Scratch her ears. And I'm like, nope. Time

2881
01:41:17,739 --> 01:41:18,559
to do it.

2882
01:41:19,260 --> 01:41:20,585
I'm not gonna go back into the rant

2883
01:41:20,585 --> 01:41:22,025
from a couple weeks ago of the vet

2884
01:41:22,025 --> 01:41:22,925
we do not like.

2885
01:41:23,305 --> 01:41:24,204
But the more

2886
01:41:25,225 --> 01:41:27,625
I have thought about that vet encounter every

2887
01:41:27,625 --> 01:41:29,945
time I'm angrier every time. I know. Right?

2888
01:41:29,945 --> 01:41:31,305
Like, I'm just like, here are all the

2889
01:41:31,305 --> 01:41:33,320
things I should've fucking said. Mhmm.

2890
01:41:33,939 --> 01:41:36,439
Hopefully, we'll never see that lady again. Exactly.

2891
01:41:37,780 --> 01:41:39,939
Exactly. The cats are good. They're still crazy,

2892
01:41:39,939 --> 01:41:41,320
but, you know, same

2893
01:41:41,780 --> 01:41:43,479
same shit, different day. Mhmm.

2894
01:41:44,814 --> 01:41:45,314
Saturday,

2895
01:41:46,655 --> 01:41:49,155
the oldest moves into his new apartment.

2896
01:41:49,534 --> 01:41:50,034
Mhmm.

2897
01:41:50,895 --> 01:41:51,395
We

2898
01:41:51,774 --> 01:41:54,114
thought that would be earlier in the day.

2899
01:41:54,494 --> 01:41:57,135
So Yeah. We're doing a cargo van again

2900
01:41:57,135 --> 01:41:58,655
through U Haul. That's what we did to

2901
01:41:58,655 --> 01:42:01,229
move him out because it's not even he's

2902
01:42:01,229 --> 01:42:03,069
not even moving out of a one bedroom

2903
01:42:03,069 --> 01:42:05,090
apartment, like, a whole apartment. It's, like, literally

2904
01:42:05,309 --> 01:42:07,329
a fourth of a kitchen and a bedroom.

2905
01:42:07,389 --> 01:42:09,309
So you don't need, like, an actual U

2906
01:42:09,309 --> 01:42:11,469
Haul, but we only have a Corolla, so

2907
01:42:11,469 --> 01:42:14,175
we do need some help. Yeah. So we've

2908
01:42:14,175 --> 01:42:16,595
scheduled it to to pick it up on

2909
01:42:16,734 --> 01:42:17,234
Friday,

2910
01:42:18,255 --> 01:42:19,635
and the kid is doing,

2911
01:42:20,255 --> 01:42:22,734
UF Gator band marching band again this year

2912
01:42:22,734 --> 01:42:25,055
after not doing it last year. And he

2913
01:42:25,055 --> 01:42:26,354
thought he would be

2914
01:42:26,814 --> 01:42:28,819
at band camp while we needed to pack

2915
01:42:28,819 --> 01:42:31,380
up his van. And I was like, okay.

2916
01:42:31,380 --> 01:42:33,059
I hate this, but we we've gotta do

2917
01:42:33,059 --> 01:42:34,659
what we gotta do. Yeah. The kids out

2918
01:42:34,659 --> 01:42:36,279
there, like, doing the school thing.

2919
01:42:36,819 --> 01:42:38,739
So we you know, JB and I talked

2920
01:42:38,739 --> 01:42:40,614
about we're like, okay. We'll get the van

2921
01:42:40,614 --> 01:42:41,895
at this time, and we'll load it up

2922
01:42:41,895 --> 01:42:43,514
at this time, and then we'll blah blah

2923
01:42:43,654 --> 01:42:45,255
blah. Some of that's still happening, but, thankfully,

2924
01:42:45,255 --> 01:42:47,014
the kid will be here. But it's still

2925
01:42:47,014 --> 01:42:47,514
a

2926
01:42:48,215 --> 01:42:50,614
late afternoon Friday because we have a thing

2927
01:42:50,614 --> 01:42:52,135
we wanna go do before we stream, and

2928
01:42:52,135 --> 01:42:53,250
then we have the stream

2929
01:42:53,630 --> 01:42:55,409
Friday. We will pack up the van.

2930
01:42:55,949 --> 01:42:58,109
And then the next morning, early morning, I

2931
01:42:58,109 --> 01:42:59,310
have to go out and,

2932
01:42:59,789 --> 01:43:01,869
get some groceries for his apartment and a

2933
01:43:01,869 --> 01:43:03,469
couple other things I've been trying to remember

2934
01:43:03,469 --> 01:43:04,929
that I need to get for his apartment.

2935
01:43:04,989 --> 01:43:07,095
And I've gotta do that early so that

2936
01:43:07,175 --> 01:43:09,975
the kid can take the car between probably

2937
01:43:09,975 --> 01:43:10,954
10:30 and eleven,

2938
01:43:11,414 --> 01:43:12,235
go to campus

2939
01:43:12,614 --> 01:43:14,695
because he has a time that he is

2940
01:43:14,695 --> 01:43:16,454
required to be there for band camp. It's

2941
01:43:16,454 --> 01:43:18,935
a short thing. It's, like, probably less than

2942
01:43:18,935 --> 01:43:20,454
an hour, but he's gotta be there at

2943
01:43:20,454 --> 01:43:21,914
noon. But the

2944
01:43:22,529 --> 01:43:25,109
apartment won't let him move in until 4PM.

2945
01:43:25,569 --> 01:43:26,550
Yeah. So

2946
01:43:27,409 --> 01:43:28,789
we pack up the van

2947
01:43:29,489 --> 01:43:30,229
late ish

2948
01:43:30,609 --> 01:43:31,349
on Friday.

2949
01:43:32,210 --> 01:43:34,609
Mhmm. I have errands early mornings. There's no

2950
01:43:34,609 --> 01:43:35,969
sleeping in after the stream. I gotta get

2951
01:43:35,969 --> 01:43:37,250
my ass out of bed, go run these

2952
01:43:37,250 --> 01:43:37,750
errands.

2953
01:43:38,585 --> 01:43:39,804
He will take our car.

2954
01:43:40,344 --> 01:43:42,045
We will ride in the van together

2955
01:43:42,984 --> 01:43:44,824
to meet him at his apartment complex, which

2956
01:43:44,824 --> 01:43:46,664
thankfully is next door to his old apartment

2957
01:43:46,664 --> 01:43:48,664
complex. We don't have to learn new directions.

2958
01:43:48,664 --> 01:43:50,685
Mm-mm. Meet him there at four,

2959
01:43:51,539 --> 01:43:52,039
unload

2960
01:43:52,420 --> 01:43:54,819
as fast as we can. Because the van

2961
01:43:54,819 --> 01:43:56,199
has to be back by seven.

2962
01:43:56,899 --> 01:43:58,899
Yes. Because if we keep it longer, then

2963
01:43:58,899 --> 01:43:59,880
we're paying, like,

2964
01:44:00,260 --> 01:44:02,520
we're paying more. Don't wanna pay more.

2965
01:44:05,875 --> 01:44:07,954
Yeah. And and Panda, yes.

2966
01:44:08,435 --> 01:44:09,975
She she is doing well.

2967
01:44:11,555 --> 01:44:13,414
And the thing we had looking for

2968
01:44:13,875 --> 01:44:15,395
looking at yesterday was that,

2969
01:44:15,954 --> 01:44:18,114
lesion in the eye, but it's doing very

2970
01:44:18,114 --> 01:44:20,170
well. It's stable. It's stable,

2971
01:44:20,630 --> 01:44:22,710
which is which is good. So it looks

2972
01:44:22,710 --> 01:44:24,329
like I will be giving her

2973
01:44:24,789 --> 01:44:26,649
eye drops from here to eternity.

2974
01:44:27,429 --> 01:44:27,909
They,

2975
01:44:28,789 --> 01:44:31,670
I meant to ask you Mhmm. Because I

2976
01:44:31,670 --> 01:44:34,215
felt my ass clench when they mentioned this.

2977
01:44:34,694 --> 01:44:36,295
So I wondered how you felt. So they

2978
01:44:36,295 --> 01:44:38,295
were talking about how, you know, these kinds

2979
01:44:38,295 --> 01:44:39,835
of eye problems are very common.

2980
01:44:41,094 --> 01:44:42,854
And, you know, it's it's they were happy

2981
01:44:42,854 --> 01:44:44,454
to know that she takes the eye drops

2982
01:44:44,454 --> 01:44:46,375
well. I mean, we we didn't talk about

2983
01:44:46,375 --> 01:44:47,974
how we have to bribe her, but she

2984
01:44:47,974 --> 01:44:50,100
takes her eye drops well. But the vet

2985
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:52,500
mentioned that sometimes whether it's a problem like

2986
01:44:52,500 --> 01:44:54,659
this that escalates or another kind of eye

2987
01:44:54,659 --> 01:44:55,159
problem,

2988
01:44:55,939 --> 01:44:56,760
some dogs

2989
01:44:57,060 --> 01:44:59,060
have to get drops in their eyes three

2990
01:44:59,060 --> 01:45:01,380
to four times a day. And I felt

2991
01:45:01,380 --> 01:45:03,604
my whole ass clench. I went, I how

2992
01:45:03,604 --> 01:45:05,204
how? And I don't even do the eye

2993
01:45:05,204 --> 01:45:06,885
drops. That's not that's not a thing I

2994
01:45:06,885 --> 01:45:08,664
do. That's not on my list.

2995
01:45:09,125 --> 01:45:10,024
But I was like,

2996
01:45:10,324 --> 01:45:11,704
oh my god. Poor JB.

2997
01:45:12,885 --> 01:45:14,885
Thankfully, we're not there yet. Hopefully, we will

2998
01:45:14,885 --> 01:45:17,045
never be there. Right. But I was curious

2999
01:45:17,045 --> 01:45:19,500
about how, like, if if you caught that,

3000
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:21,420
if it Oh, I I caught it, and

3001
01:45:21,420 --> 01:45:22,780
it was one of those things that

3002
01:45:24,619 --> 01:45:26,220
in and out. You were like, I'm not

3003
01:45:26,220 --> 01:45:27,840
thinking about that shit. Right.

3004
01:45:29,420 --> 01:45:31,199
You know, that does speak to our personalities.

3005
01:45:31,340 --> 01:45:32,635
I'm over here going, oh my god. Oh

3006
01:45:32,635 --> 01:45:33,994
my god. And you're like, I nope. I

3007
01:45:33,994 --> 01:45:35,435
don't wanna hear it, so I didn't hear

3008
01:45:35,435 --> 01:45:36,734
it. It's not my reality.

3009
01:45:39,835 --> 01:45:41,135
I mean, you know,

3010
01:45:41,755 --> 01:45:43,914
yep. One twice a day, we're good. She's

3011
01:45:43,914 --> 01:45:45,295
doing good. She's great.

3012
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,560
Just keep it that way. Yeah. Yeah. And

3013
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,159
and if doing it twice a day keeps

3014
01:45:51,159 --> 01:45:52,359
me from having to do it three or

3015
01:45:52,359 --> 01:45:53,420
four times a day

3016
01:45:54,279 --> 01:45:56,119
Yeah. I'll I'll keep keep with the two

3017
01:45:56,119 --> 01:45:58,300
times a day. And it's a medication

3018
01:45:58,854 --> 01:46:01,435
because it's not medication medication. It's like saline.

3019
01:46:01,895 --> 01:46:03,934
We can buy from Walgreens. We don't have

3020
01:46:03,934 --> 01:46:06,554
to keep, like, getting prescriptions. Correct. Correct.

3021
01:46:07,255 --> 01:46:09,994
So, yeah, that that's nice. Yeah.

3022
01:46:11,094 --> 01:46:12,694
I had a thought. I was gonna say,

3023
01:46:12,694 --> 01:46:13,435
and I've already

3024
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,800
forgotten. Already gone. Happens that way. Later it

3025
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:17,779
gets in the evening,

3026
01:46:18,399 --> 01:46:19,460
the more I forget,

3027
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,060
the quicker I forget.

3028
01:46:23,359 --> 01:46:24,179
But yeah.

3029
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,155
So she's good, though. Mhmm. And she still

3030
01:46:28,155 --> 01:46:29,375
loves us. Yeah.

3031
01:46:31,114 --> 01:46:33,354
She since we since we came home from

3032
01:46:33,354 --> 01:46:36,574
the vet yesterday, she has been, like, Velcro

3033
01:46:37,274 --> 01:46:38,015
with me.

3034
01:46:39,034 --> 01:46:39,774
Oh, yeah.

3035
01:46:40,314 --> 01:46:41,755
She usually is oh, that was the thing

3036
01:46:41,755 --> 01:46:43,515
I was thinking about. Like, look. Anybody who,

3037
01:46:43,989 --> 01:46:46,229
was here during the sake era, you know,

3038
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:48,550
we love a small dog. Yeah. I did

3039
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:51,030
not know how tied to sake I was

3040
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:53,030
until he was not here, and I had

3041
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:54,789
to experience what it's like not being the

3042
01:46:54,789 --> 01:46:55,289
favorite.

3043
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:58,329
It's fine.

3044
01:46:59,114 --> 01:47:01,375
That being said Mhmm.

3045
01:47:02,154 --> 01:47:03,914
We got to the vet's office and then

3046
01:47:03,914 --> 01:47:06,154
trying to leave the vet's office. The problem

3047
01:47:06,154 --> 01:47:06,654
children

3048
01:47:07,274 --> 01:47:09,914
who were snappy and yappy and you had

3049
01:47:09,914 --> 01:47:10,574
to watch

3050
01:47:11,034 --> 01:47:14,110
were the small dogs. Yeah. Lola was the

3051
01:47:14,110 --> 01:47:16,270
only large dog in the waiting room, like,

3052
01:47:16,270 --> 01:47:18,909
both times going in and leaving. Mhmm. And

3053
01:47:18,909 --> 01:47:21,550
she was the calmest. Yep. She was like

3054
01:47:21,869 --> 01:47:24,909
and thankfully, she didn't react to the dogs

3055
01:47:24,909 --> 01:47:26,050
who were, like,

3056
01:47:26,909 --> 01:47:29,375
clearly, like, upset and want to bark at

3057
01:47:29,375 --> 01:47:29,875
everybody.

3058
01:47:31,215 --> 01:47:33,375
And I'm I'm grateful that she's like that.

3059
01:47:33,375 --> 01:47:34,914
But Yeah. Like,

3060
01:47:35,454 --> 01:47:37,074
the thing that is frustrating,

3061
01:47:38,494 --> 01:47:40,175
and it's a personal thing, it doesn't actually

3062
01:47:40,175 --> 01:47:42,175
matter, is the fact that all those people

3063
01:47:42,175 --> 01:47:44,010
who had their small dog were all side

3064
01:47:44,010 --> 01:47:44,989
eyeing Lola

3065
01:47:45,369 --> 01:47:47,130
at first when we walked in. Like, she

3066
01:47:47,130 --> 01:47:49,449
was gonna be the problem. Right. And I'm

3067
01:47:49,449 --> 01:47:51,929
like, our girl is quiet. She just wants

3068
01:47:51,929 --> 01:47:53,289
to leave. She keeps walking to the door,

3069
01:47:53,289 --> 01:47:55,149
like, can can I don't wanna be here.

3070
01:47:55,210 --> 01:47:57,130
But she's mostly staying right by JB and

3071
01:47:57,130 --> 01:47:59,025
just, like, let's She laying on the floor.

3072
01:47:59,185 --> 01:48:02,145
Chill like she typically is. Yep. And yet

3073
01:48:02,145 --> 01:48:04,305
folks are, like, holding their small dogs a

3074
01:48:04,305 --> 01:48:06,385
little closer. I'm like, she is not the

3075
01:48:06,385 --> 01:48:08,885
problem here. Y'all are yapping over there.

3076
01:48:09,824 --> 01:48:11,390
Now once the waiting room cleared out and

3077
01:48:11,390 --> 01:48:13,030
we could actually sit down like, we got

3078
01:48:13,030 --> 01:48:14,729
there and we could not sit down. Yeah.

3079
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:16,550
Partly because we were not gonna drag her

3080
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:17,989
up into the middle of all those small

3081
01:48:17,989 --> 01:48:20,070
dogs because it was so busy in the

3082
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:20,810
waiting room.

3083
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:23,750
Then there were people who there was one

3084
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:26,085
lady who just clearly loved all dogs because

3085
01:48:26,085 --> 01:48:27,284
she walked around going, can I pet your

3086
01:48:27,284 --> 01:48:28,405
dog? Can I pet your dog? Can I

3087
01:48:28,405 --> 01:48:29,305
pet your dog?

3088
01:48:30,485 --> 01:48:31,925
But I don't know if you noticed that

3089
01:48:31,925 --> 01:48:34,025
the the people who came in after us

3090
01:48:34,164 --> 01:48:36,565
still side eyed Lola until we left and

3091
01:48:36,565 --> 01:48:37,845
walked her. I didn't catch any of that.

3092
01:48:37,845 --> 01:48:39,880
I was offended on Lola's behalf. Catch any

3093
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,880
of that. And I don't have a problem

3094
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,279
with small dogs. I I just No. But

3095
01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:47,319
I I think, you know, with Lola's particular

3096
01:48:47,319 --> 01:48:49,479
breed, there is a stigma that comes on

3097
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:51,720
unfortunately. There absolutely is. And now I've had

3098
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:52,199
the experience

3099
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,039
this is why I'm, like, I'm offended on

3100
01:48:54,039 --> 01:48:54,699
her behalf.

3101
01:48:55,239 --> 01:48:58,255
I've had the experience where our girl was

3102
01:48:58,255 --> 01:49:00,175
calm and on leash, and it was a

3103
01:49:00,175 --> 01:49:02,574
small dog that instigated it. And I'm like,

3104
01:49:02,574 --> 01:49:04,655
well, yeah. If she had taken that dog's

3105
01:49:04,655 --> 01:49:06,494
head off in that particular incident

3106
01:49:06,975 --> 01:49:08,814
Mhmm. She'd have been the bad guy. Right.

3107
01:49:08,814 --> 01:49:10,829
And but I watched this little shit

3108
01:49:11,630 --> 01:49:13,010
start it all. Yeah.

3109
01:49:13,869 --> 01:49:16,510
And that and that one time, Lola was

3110
01:49:16,510 --> 01:49:17,310
trying not to

3111
01:49:17,949 --> 01:49:19,390
I know. She was trying so hard that

3112
01:49:19,390 --> 01:49:21,630
time. Yeah. But yeah. I was just I

3113
01:49:21,630 --> 01:49:23,250
was walked in there. I was like,

3114
01:49:23,710 --> 01:49:26,130
don't look at my dog like that. Yeah.

3115
01:49:27,534 --> 01:49:29,215
She's a good girl. She is a good

3116
01:49:29,215 --> 01:49:31,694
girl. Oh, she's she's got what we call

3117
01:49:31,694 --> 01:49:34,094
her satellite ear. Yeah. She's laying down as

3118
01:49:34,094 --> 01:49:36,734
if she's sleeping, but one ear is fully

3119
01:49:36,734 --> 01:49:37,234
up.

3120
01:49:37,854 --> 01:49:39,659
And the more we say her name, the

3121
01:49:39,739 --> 01:49:41,680
more that ear twitches. Mhmm.

3122
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:45,680
So Well

3123
01:49:47,500 --> 01:49:49,020
I know for me, I think I think

3124
01:49:49,020 --> 01:49:51,340
I have finally run down. Not run out

3125
01:49:51,340 --> 01:49:52,720
of anything. It's the batteries.

3126
01:49:54,274 --> 01:49:56,594
It's it's yeah. It's almost We've had almost

3127
01:49:56,594 --> 01:49:59,954
a two hour Mhmm. Situation. 09:00, and we

3128
01:49:59,954 --> 01:50:02,114
we need to leave some stuff for for

3129
01:50:02,114 --> 01:50:03,875
Friday. You know? I know. Well, there'll be

3130
01:50:03,875 --> 01:50:05,654
some we have a lot to do between

3131
01:50:06,449 --> 01:50:08,770
now and then. Well, that's always true. No.

3132
01:50:08,770 --> 01:50:09,989
I'm I'm pretty sure,

3133
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:12,369
we will all be

3134
01:50:14,050 --> 01:50:15,569
you and I at least will be will

3135
01:50:15,569 --> 01:50:17,649
have thoughts and feelings after having to load

3136
01:50:17,649 --> 01:50:19,805
the fucking van back up. I know. So

3137
01:50:20,045 --> 01:50:22,445
I know. The nice thing, though, we can

3138
01:50:22,445 --> 01:50:24,064
just when when we unload,

3139
01:50:24,364 --> 01:50:26,204
it just gets unload and dropped, and we

3140
01:50:26,204 --> 01:50:28,045
can I know? I kinda wanted to, like,

3141
01:50:28,045 --> 01:50:30,445
have the moment my original intention was we'll

3142
01:50:30,445 --> 01:50:32,699
unload. We'll get a stuff dropped off. We'll

3143
01:50:32,699 --> 01:50:34,460
take them to go get something to eat,

3144
01:50:34,460 --> 01:50:36,479
and no. Now it's like we gotta, like,

3145
01:50:36,859 --> 01:50:38,779
leave the parking lot on two wheels and

3146
01:50:38,779 --> 01:50:40,560
get out like our asses on fire

3147
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:43,279
to get the thing back in time.

3148
01:50:44,460 --> 01:50:44,960
Yay.

3149
01:50:46,380 --> 01:50:47,199
That's fine.

3150
01:50:47,925 --> 01:50:50,244
Okay. I guess we can be done. Mhmm.

3151
01:50:50,244 --> 01:50:51,845
I can't hardly keep my eyes open anymore,

3152
01:50:51,845 --> 01:50:53,944
so that's probably time to beat. Yeah.

3153
01:50:54,405 --> 01:50:54,905
Yeah.

3154
01:50:55,845 --> 01:50:57,284
I'm ready to put my feet up for

3155
01:50:57,284 --> 01:50:59,204
a little bit now until, you know Yo.

3156
01:50:59,204 --> 01:51:01,060
Yeah. I got, like, twenty minutes left of

3157
01:51:01,060 --> 01:51:02,440
a really good book I'm reading.

3158
01:51:03,140 --> 01:51:03,640
So

3159
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:05,060
thank you all for being here to the

3160
01:51:05,060 --> 01:51:07,060
bitter end. Thank you all for being here

3161
01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:08,820
at any part in the last ten years.

3162
01:51:08,820 --> 01:51:11,720
We fucking love y'all. We we we appreciate

3163
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:14,340
every each and every one of you from

3164
01:51:14,340 --> 01:51:16,545
the ones who've been with us since beginning

3165
01:51:16,545 --> 01:51:18,565
to the newest folks. We Yeah. We're

3166
01:51:18,945 --> 01:51:20,784
we're we're grateful for you, age and every

3167
01:51:20,784 --> 01:51:22,305
one of you. And we will keep showing

3168
01:51:22,305 --> 01:51:24,345
up as long as some of y'all do.

3169
01:51:24,345 --> 01:51:26,405
Mhmm. Yep. Okay. K.

3170
01:51:26,864 --> 01:51:27,364
Bye.

3171
01:51:27,824 --> 01:51:28,324
Bye.

3172
01:51:31,670 --> 01:51:32,489
Ice cream.

3173
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:34,170
You scream.