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You're listening to the loving BDSM podcast. Kayla

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Lords here with the 1, the only, the

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I've got nothing witty to say, but I

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do love you, John Brownstone. I love you

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too, baby girl. The brain ain't raining. So

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I know. The snark is kind of It's

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been a bumpy couple days for us. Yeah.

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In some

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some ways. Yeah. Yeah. But we're here, and

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we're gonna answer a question. Yeah. This week,

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we're answering a question from a Dom who

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worries that they're being unreliable with their submissive

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partner.

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or the link should be in the show

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notes for this episode. Okay. Let's get straight

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into the question. Right off the top, am

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I unreliable or consider

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or considerate?

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I'm struggling with my confidence as a daddy

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dom. I feel like I might be unreliable

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or unbelievable.

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My wife and I are in a 247

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power exchange. I find myself telling her that

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I want us to do something before we

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go to bed, and by the time we

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get there, it's extra late or she's exhausted

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or life just happens.

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At that point, I normally say that we'll

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skip that thing, and it's not a big

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deal because sleep is more important.

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On one hand, I feel like it makes

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me seem like I keep going back on

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my word or I won't follow through. On

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the other hand, I feel like it's just

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being considerate and looking out for my wife

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slash subs best interest.

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It's a big struggle and I feel like

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I may not be cut out to be

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a dom. How do you view these conflicting

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thoughts? What advice do you have? For context,

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we have 3 kids ages 15, 13, and

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9 who are involved in sports and school

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activities. We discovered DS in 2020, and it

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has been the best thing for us. Yeah.

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First of all, I'm gonna say this. I

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want you to cut yourself some slack. Right?

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Well, when life lives,

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ain't nobody playing. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. We

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we know

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all too well Mhmm.

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When life lives Right.

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You you ain't fighting it. Mm-mm. You don't

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fight it. No. You know?

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yeah, you know, no, I, I think, you

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know, yeah, we, we both agree, you need

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to cut yourself a little bit of slack.

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You know, yeah, life is life, and, you

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know, yeah, we all get tired, and, you

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know, some sometimes things do not work out

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the way they should. Right. Or we want

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them to, I should say. But, with all

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I I think what

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what would work well

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with you, with y'all,

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especially since you got a lot of stuff

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going on with the family,

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schedule the time. Mhmm. I I I think

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you really need to look at, you know,

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scheduling the time and and, you know, keeping

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that schedule open where you can sneak in

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some time and, you know, there there's no

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interruptions, you're not tired, and, you know, sometimes

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that's the only way. It may not seem,

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sexy, you know, at the time and and

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all that but, you know what, it

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it life isn't like an erotic novel.

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also there's not enough lube in erotic novels.

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Yeah. When and when you schedule it, it

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is put it in your calendar, your Google,

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your whatever. And it I mean, you don't

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have to label it kinky fuckery time now.

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Date night. Date night. Yeah.

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My favorite to do when,

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the kids were younger and still actually going

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is, you know, we work for ourselves, so

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we have a lot more control over this.

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you have to kind of rely on your

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PTO or whatever your your employer offers you.

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But we would take days off. The children

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would go to the school. We would drive

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away. We would go do something. We it

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might just be for a couple hours in

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the morning. It might be the whole day.

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was devoted

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to fuckery and seining and whatever else, and

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then the rest of the day was, like,

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just being with one another

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and letting things be calm.

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the time, but if you never plan for

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it, it's probably never going to happen.

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So maybe in a given month, you take

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a half day off together.

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Maybe in another month, you do a date

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night. If you are fortunate enough to have

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childcare, you know, is your oldest old enough

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and responsible enough? Maybe not. I wouldn't have

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left the 15 year old too long with

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his little brother back in the day.

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But, you know, do you have somebody you

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can rely on to watch your children?

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Can they go to, you know, a family

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member's house? Can can do y'all do sleepovers?

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Can somebody go hang out at somebody else's

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house Yeah. And give you that time?

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I'm not I would not say

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stop

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promising something or or saying that you might

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do something, you know, at the end of

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the day, when you go to bed, whatever.

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keep trying to do that as long as

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that feels like something you wanna keep trying

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to do. But then

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also, schedule in these other times. The other

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thing, and I have to remind JB of

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this all the time, all the time.

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I will take

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minutes

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Yeah. Of kinda sleepy, kinda slow, not too,

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involved, not too crazy, no props,

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fuck kinky fuckery together over over nothing for

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weeks

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weeks. If all he can do is give

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me a hand spanking

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while I am bent over the bed and

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he doesn't have to haul back and wail

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me, it's just like it could be a

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few taps,

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that is better than nothing. So

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while I absolutely

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relate to the idea of it finally being

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time to go get go to your own

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bedroom and, like, close the door and shut

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the world out and being exhausted, sometimes you

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will still be just too exhausted.

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But don't necessarily

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overthink it that even a small amount

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of kink isn't somehow worth it. It can

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be because it it maintains the connection that

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you have with your partner. Absolutely. Another thing

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I wanna point out though Uh-oh. And, I

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I mean, I know I know my biases.

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Okay? JB is a daddy dom, and to

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me, he is a quintessential daddy dom until

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he gets sadistic. And then I'm like,

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sadistic daddy did not have to come visit.

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You have labeled yourself a daddy dom. That,

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in my mind, with my own biases, tells

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me that you are a nurturer and a

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caregiver. That's kind of the umbrella that daddy

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and mommy and, you know, whatever doms like

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that, caregiver doms fall under. So what you're

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doing at the end of the day when

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you see that

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your sub had a really hard day or

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your sub is exhausted

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or, you know, you know both of you

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are exhausted and you're not gonna make it

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through the next day if you stay up

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too late playing tonight,

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you are actually doing the job of a

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daddy dom. The job of a of a

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dom of any type is not to constantly

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be providing

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scenes. It is not constantly to be provide

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be providing fuckery. There are other parts of

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dominance, and to me,

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this is a perfect example of it. Now

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if you're dissatisfied

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with the

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how often you have to kinda go back

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on your own, I thought we were gonna

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do this, but that's not a good idea

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tonight. That's when it's like, okay. So schedule

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some time. Mhmm.

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I don't I when I say this,

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hear me out, lower your expectations. And what

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I mean by that is go back to

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that whole idea of 5 to 10 minutes

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is better than 0 minutes. Right? A light,

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easygoing moment between the 2 of you that

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taps into your mutual kinks is better than

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weeks upon weeks of absolutely 0. Right? But

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you're already being a dominant by taking care

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of your partner. Right. You know? As a

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daddy dom, that's that's kind of in the

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job description. Right? So you don't have to,

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in my mind, you don't have to worry

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about whether you really are a dom or

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not, or you're an unreliable dom.

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Now it's really a matter of, okay, how

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do I prioritize this thing we have to

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keep skipping? Because if you have to submissive

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how she submissive how she feels.

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Does she feel like you're being unreliable, or

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is she kind of happy that you're making

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her go to sleep? Right? You know, we

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get we can get as individuals regardless of

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the size of the slash, we can get

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very wrapped up in our own heads about,

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uh-oh. Am I a bad

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dom or sub? Mhmm.

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And we think that maybe we're not providing

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our partner with what they want, and maybe

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you're not. Maybe maybe your sub would like

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some more fuckery in her life. But instead

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of getting yourself all twisted up trying to

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figure out how you're gonna fix this on

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your own, talk to her. Yeah. She might

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have suggestions that you haven't thought about. She

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might be very grateful

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for the nights you let her sleep. You

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you just don't know until you have that

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conversation.

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True. True. Mhmm. And, you know, another thing

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kind of

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popped into my head. You know, if at

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all possible, you you know, you talk about

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how sometimes the evening gets away

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from you,

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you know, maybe you can look and sit

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down and look and, you know, a little

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time management.

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Could be. You know, kind of what what

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is the nightly routine?

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Is there things that you can, you know,

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adjust Mhmm. To to give yourself a little

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more time in the evening?

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You know? I mean, that's something to think

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about too. Mhmm. Are there things that your

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kids could take more responsibility on? Mhmm.

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And okay. I say this as, an indoor

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cat parent. Like, my kids did not do

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the sport ball thing. Okay.

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But is this, each kid has their own

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activities, or is this each kid has multiple

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activities. Do they need to do multiple activities?

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Can somebody help you

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help them deal with their activities? Like, what

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can you

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you might not be able to. You might

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it might just be this is your life

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right now. Mhmm. But it's worth looking into

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how can

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we adjust the,

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there's a word I want and I hate

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it when that happens.

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But how can we adjust our life

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in order to make more time for us

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as partners? You know, in your mind, you're

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thinking of it maybe for kink purposes or

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power exchange purposes. Mhmm. But this is no

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different than a non kink couple needing to

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get some damn time to themselves. Right? Very

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true. This is a universal problem

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of couples everywhere, especially if you're caregiving, whether

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it's children or your parents or you're doing

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both. Right? Like Yeah. The it it's going

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to take its toll. It's not gonna happen

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organically most of the time. Certain seasons of

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life, it's just not. It's just not. And

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so you have to configure your life around

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the things that matter to you, and your

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relationship with each other clearly matters to you.

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That doesn't mean your children don't. It doesn't

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mean you need to ignore all of their

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needs, but what can be adjusted

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to just give you both some breathing space?

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Not even in a kink context, just as

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parents. Right? Like, what can you adjust

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where maybe a kid has a little bit

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more responsibility?

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Maybe they don't need to do those 18

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things they'd really like to do. Or and

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this was easier as, the kids get older.

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Our oldest, we did this a lot. I

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was like, who can you ride with? Do

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I have to drive you? Because if I

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don't have to drive you, I'm not. Yeah.

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And, man, not having to drive a kid

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somewhere?

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That will save so much time. That was

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a big load off right there. But those

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are seasons in life. Your kids might have

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to be older. You know? Things might have

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to change. Like,

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it's just it's the nature of the beast.

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So I think being really mindful and purposely

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planning time outside of we'll do it at

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night, we'll do it before bed, and trying

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to just do it organically, I I think

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that's worth it. I also think, you know,

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look at how things can adjust all the

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way around just to give you all some

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more time. Yeah. But the thing I would

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not do is be,

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down on yourself because you're not giving your

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partner as much fuckery as y'all would like,

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as many scenes as you would like, as

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whatever it is you're saying, hey. We'll do,

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and then you're not able to do because

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what you are doing is taking care of

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Right.

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Her and yourself.

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And

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maybe

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what you need to do is stop promising

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so much fuckery

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that's not scheduled or planned for. Mhmm.

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Maybe stop saying, hey. We'll do that thing

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later. Hey. We'll do that thing later. And

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either say, hey. Do we have 20 minutes

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right now? Can we go do that thing?

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Mhmm. Yeah. There you go. Wanna try to

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do that thing?

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Or

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having a conversation with your partner where it's

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like, hey. Maybe let's work into our nighttime

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routine some level of fuckery. Mhmm. We do

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that. It's sometimes the only fuckery we get

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for weeks.

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I have to ask permission to go to

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bed. It's part of our, you know, power

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exchange routine. Mhmm. But I do that naked

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and bent over the bed. Mhmm. I might

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get a butt rub. I might get my

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ass whooped.

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Either way, I'm good.

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But we've created a routine that leaves room

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for the fuckery. Right? Yeah. So it's it's

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gonna happen. It's just gonna be is it

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30 seconds? Is it Right. 15 minutes? And

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that might be something to think about. And,

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you know, it's not even so much about

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the fuckery. Right? Yeah.

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So

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15 minutes? And that might be something to

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think about. And, you know, it's not even

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so much about the fuckery, because, yeah, there

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are times I I spank her. There are

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times I just rub her butt, you know,

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but it's about the connection.

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Mhmm. It is about the connection, and that's

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what it really all comes down to. Mhmm.

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And if you can find ways to connect

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Mhmm.

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Consistently

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enough, and consistently does not mean every single

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day all the time Yeah. But consistently enough

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so that you don't have to make, you

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know, the assurances, hey. Tonight, we'll do this.

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Tonight, we'll do that. You know, build it

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into your routine where you can

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and find little ways to connect that are

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meaningful to both of you. Like, it might

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it might not be bent over a bed.

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You know, saying daddy cannot go to bed

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and you have to get, like, however many

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smacks he feels like giving you that. You

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know, it didn't have to be, but if

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anybody would like to steal that idea, go

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for it. Right. But that's that's another part

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of it. Like, we have our bedtime routine

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so set regardless of what time we go

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to bed. Right? When the kids are big

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in their activities, some nights you could go

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to bed at a reasonable time, and some

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nights they weren't getting back from a school

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thing until midnight. Like but our routine always

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stayed the same. Mhmm. And JB can drive

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the is it a spanking or is it

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just a butt rub portion based on his

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energy levels, based on my energy levels, but

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we know we're gonna have that moment. Right.

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So, you know, I think you're doing better

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than you realize because you just asked the

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question. You're thinking about it in these terms.

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Bad doms

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do not care about their partner.

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That's that's absolutely

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true. They do not care if they're doing

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a good job. Absolutely true. They care about

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what they're getting and only what they're saying.

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So I When you as you were reading

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the question, that was the first thing I'm

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thinking of. It's like, you know, this this

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the this person, they're they're

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thinking they're, you know, not Right. They're you're

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assessing the situation. You're realizing things aren't going

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the way you think they

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will will go or that you are assuring

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your partner they will go. Yeah. And you're

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trying to make it better. I promise you,

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shitty doms do not do that. Do that.

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That is true. Unreliable

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doms don't do that. Yep. So you're doing

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better. There's just some tweaks you can make.

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Mhmm. And don't leave your partner out of

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the conversation.

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She may have some good ideas. She might

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have been thinking about some stuff. You know,

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some some of the best things that that

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we've come up with sometimes are when the

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2 of us sit down and brainstorm. Mhmm.

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It's a good reason to go have a

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coffee somewhere. There you go. And when we're

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broke, we just drive in the car Yeah.

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And we just talk. Mhmm. So however you

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can do it, whenever you can do it,

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but I'm I'm a firm believer. Put it

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in your calendar.

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And and do it midday at times when

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you don't have parental responsibilities. They're off being

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educated by somebody else if that is a

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you know, if if you're like us and

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you got one at home

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for their education, it is different, and I

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haven't figured it out yet. I know.

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But

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if but if they're going somewhere else or

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they are old enough to watch over themselves

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and able to

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yeah. I'm a I'm a big middle of

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the day kind of person. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep.

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So yeah. Mhmm.

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