You're listening to loving Bd podcast episode 404
freaking hundred. 400A
nice
round number. Yeah. You know how I feel
about a round number. I've meet too. Yeah.
Get works here with the 1, the only
the guy who's been in this with me
from the beginning in some form of fashion.
John Browns.
What a long strange trip it's been.
And continues to be
Any Og listeners out there will remember when
it was just my voice, and we were
recording in the closet, and then you'll remember
when it was the 2 of us recording
in the class it. And then you might
remember when we got our first
grown up microphone that.
Closet it.
And there were many, many messages of please
give John Browns stone, his own microphone.
And here we are. Because I have 1
of those soft. You really didn't. Hello, dome
voices. And I I have... Did you just
Asmr like, the panties off of everybody? I
mean, you might not wear panties, we might
wear something else, but they're gone now. Aren't
they? Yeah. That's all point.
Actually, for some people, and if it was
me, I would be cri for some people,
with. I know. No. No. I was yes.
You melted their panties off. We. We established
that. No. For some of us, myself included,
a whisper makes us just
want to hide somewhere. Yeah. It's... Oh, so
for anybody who felt feels that way. We're
sorry.
Sorry. Not sorry, though, I think he was
very proud of himself for whispering into the
microphone.
In a way we're here to discuss that
because we are celebrating Mh. 400 episode, and
we are doing that with,
and ask us anything. We took questions off
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well. Instagram questions are pretty darn light.
So we might do that. So... But there...
Your your questions.
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Okay.
And I'm turning... You're turning fans. Yeah
Okay. So I'm checking to see do we
have
announcements.
It's gonna be the 1 where I just
I just keep saying the same thing every
week
but it feels like a good
time to really say it is when we're
gonna answer questions for this week's episode.
That we are still
accepting we are always accepting. It's not still.
It's an always accepting question. So
if you have a question that is not
1 of those we can answer in, like,
5 minutes.
Submitting it through the link on our website
is the exact perfect
place to do it because then you can
give us all the backstory. You can give
us all the context,
and then we will make a dedicated video
slash podcast episode just answering your questions. So
if you have questions like that,
especially if you're like, this is a quest
a Q and A episode, and I had
a question
Send it to us.
Wait we have found we actually really like
answering your questions like that,
especially when we get the literal paragraphs of
contacts and back. Yeah. So that is the
only announcement this week.
So we're gonna get over in to Instagram.
I'm gonna get into the meet potatoes here.
We did not get a lot of questions,
and I'm not letting my
feelings get hurt because I know how the
summer is. I Else enough kinda dropped the
ball by not being around on Instagram as
much as I had been for a while.
Mh. It
comes in waves. Like, for about 6 weeks,
I'll be Gun h there, like, in it,
and then I hit a appointment Like, oh,
I'm tired. And then I go away again,
and then I come back and then Brian.
So we are going to
answer the questions that we received. I don't
see any that we wouldn't answer, and then
there's a very good chance. I believe we
will be
taking questions from the livestream stream? We will
tell you how to do that when we
get there. Okay. Here we go. First question,
have you ever dealt with a power exchange
breakup. Do you have tips for healing.
Oh, hell, yeah. I've been 30 Break before.
Yep. Saying.
Be kind to yourself and be patient.
I know those are are are 2 words
that
you know, can
can
make someone cringe,
especially patients,
but that... That's really a good part of
it, you know,
be kind.
Sorry.
Girl.
That was wrong with me. And
you know, if if possible, find people,
you know, lifestyle people who who can... Who
understand what you're going through, you know, and
and and hang out with them and,
you, you know, they... It it's it's good
to have a support system. Yes. This is
a time that if you have some form
kent community online or in person,
especially if you at least 1 or 2
people that you are close enough to that
you would tell them is, let them know.
You might not feel up for reaching out
to friends anytime soon, and that's okay. But
if they know what's going on, hopefully, they're
the kind of friends, will maybe check on
you. This is a great time to practice
communication skills and be clear and say, hey,
I am having a enough time. If you
just, like, Dm me or text me or
whatever every so often that we great. I'm
okay with that if you are assuming you
are okay with it. But breakups are are
the
the right time there's no wrong time, but
it's a a really good time to lean
on your community. If you do not have
community once you get through whatever your initial
grief process is gonna look like where everything
is the hardest that it's gonna be and
you're the saddest you're gonna be, and that's
gonna be for how long it's gonna gonna
be
this... You know, once you get past that
point.
Now let's
go find community and make friends. And again,
be online or in person. So maybe you
go to munch is, maybe you join discord
servers with Kings.
You know, maybe you
work on reflecting as, you know, a Gangster.
There's tons of journals and tons of, workbook
books and tons of like, little things you
can do online. There's tons of sites that
will help you do that kind of stuff.
And this is a, you know, in that
process of moving through your feelings in a
breakup. Mh.
Figuring out more of who you are as
a kings. This is not a bad time.
And and and some communities,
you know, do different social things, like, you
know, have coffee social old.
They they plan hikes and different things. You
know, so there are things like that to
look for to. Mh. And I'm gonna say
the thing I say every single time this
comes up because it does come up a
lot because a lot of people go through
it, and that is to allow yourself space
to grieve. Yeah. Your feelings are valid it.
I do not care if this relationship was
2 months, 2 years, 20 years. I don't
care what the length is. It met meant
something to you and now it is over.
And I also don't care who initiated the
breakup. Whether you did or they did or
something else happen like a ghost situation or
whatever Mh. I don't care who initiated it.
You have your feelings and you are allowed
to feel them. You're not allowed to be
an asshole with your feelings, but you are
allowed to feel your feelings. There will come
a point where, you know,
somebody might go well, maybe you're wall now,
maybe it's time to try and move forward.
That's different for everybody and really only your
friends will kinda clock that for you.
So don't worry about that just yet, especially
if this is a fresh breakup, or you're
just now kinda dealing with your feelings.
Just slit self grieve. It it is okay.
You are not, you know,
crazy or a weirdo
or
pathetic whatever mean thing we can sometimes think
to say to ourselves when we're in,
you know, feeling that kind of sadness. You're
not those things, feel what you feel, as
you start to come out of it a
little bit, then start
finding community, learning more about Kin learning more
about yourself as a Kingston.
And, you know, from there, what happens after
that? Who knows? Maybe you just make a
whole bunch of friends. Maybe you meet a
new partner.
Maybe you just gain confidence as a kingston
and, you know, whatever.
But first, just feel your feelings.
Okay. Next question.
What made you guys, that's us, want to
start a podcast about kin.
That 1 that would be. That will be
you.
Because what I said to Jb when I
started the podcast was don't worry, all I
need you to do is edit it for
me. I'll do everything else. I... The very
beginning I was writing scripts. I was recording
alone. It was very scripted. That just not...
Did not feel natural. It never feel natural.
What made me want to start a podcast
about Kin was that I was already blogging?
I mean, for many years, I was
belonged I was a huge blogger, like, not
huge in size, but just, like, the amount
of words my butt out.
She was She was certainly writing
at least 1 post today. So... And there
were times several. Yeah.
Partly because writing is how I process what
I'm feeling and figure out what I feel
and figure out what I'm thinking and whatever.
But the
opinions I was starting to form about
kin specifically power exchange. And the things I
was learning,
writing a blog post did not feel like
enough space to have
Nuance
conversations.
I am that type of writer in casual
writing, like my own blog not professionally that
it's a lot of parent
because free thought has a side thought to
go with it to add context,
and that's... I didn't wanna write 10000 word
blog post to talk about a single thing
that I was thinking and to dive into
the
details on the nuance of it. I wanted
to talk about it. And I wanted I
thought what I was gonna do is just
do little tidbits because I figured nobody wanted
to listen to long episodes anyway.
Well, that didn't last very long. And they
got longer. And they got longer,
because
quite frankly because the the problem with the
here 5 things to do for your
kinky relationship now is it's too fucking surface
level,
You know?
The the
articles
published by non kin focus sites. It's all
surface level and it's all the same fucking.
Advice. King sight, we have to find ways
to get it across that's more than just
like a checklist
situation because checklist actually don't work. It's too
individualized.
So I just wanted... I wanted to talk
about it rather than write about it.
And very early on, I realized I wanted
Jb with me, and I don't even remember
anymore how that started. That is so far
back in the archive. I don't remember any
You you came to me
and said that there was a topic you
wanted to talk about,
but you wanted to have my input on
it. As well.
Okay.
That was that was the entry point. And
that was when I entered the closet with
you.
I hope job. Yeah. And podcast podcasting
you've been stuck with me ever since.
Quite frankly, it makes for a better.
Episode. It makes for a better competition because
it's an actual conversation. You know? Yeah. And
we are
we are 2 completely perspectives because Dom sub,
but also just because we're 2 people. So...
Yeah. Yeah. But that... That's what made me
I wanna start it. I just wanted to
have
conversations and it was
I didn't wanna write it. I wanted to
say it.
So blame my talk nature,
and
my,
dick
to context in Nuance.
Next question, How much has changed
since we started the podcast?
I don't do they mean in the podcast?
Do they mean in our lives? Do they
mean? I don't know what they mean? So
we can answer I mean, overall overall lots
is lots. Everything is changed
you know, when when Kayla first started this,
it was with a laptop and no microphone
just No microphone the built in microphone built
on the laptop. And the laptop was old.
When I started using it? Yes.
Still have that laptop. Yeah. You still use
it stuff. Actually, before I went into the
closet, I recorded at the... Kitchen table. I
think I did 1 episode where I recorded
at the kitchen table, and I didn't know
what to do about the sound where we
lived. We just didn't have good acoustics, and
I was like, this sound is kinda such
suck. And I think after that I went
into the closet because we could at least
control
audio. Yeah. But I was... Well, yeah. Because
at the end, the condo at that time,
we had the... The bamboo floors. And high
ceilings. And very high ceilings. Yes. So everything
echoed echoed.
Echo.
The... Yeah. The podcasting whole setup has changed,
started with that laptop built in microphone. Yeah.
Went to the closet. The 2 of us
huddled around a laptop of the built in
microphone.
Bought, a single
microphone. That was that single Usb microphone. Right.
So we start recording at your desk because
I didn't have a desk at the time.
Right.
And we did it at night after the
boys went to bed. Right. And we huddled
around the microphone, and then basically where it
was, like,
please let Jb have the microphone or get
him his own microphone. We can't hear Jb.
And we upgraded to some equipment we kinda
still have now. Yeah. It's the microphones and
the sound board,
we were still in the condo because I
remember the story we went to.
Yes.
We got the sound board in the mics,
which we still... Yes. We still leave it.
Have.
While we were in the condo, we started
doing some of the Youtube, but it was
with the webcam. Mh. Oh, yeah. The quality
was so bad. But because it's not really
meant to take that wide of a shot
Where were like, let's just push you a
little webcam. Yep. See what you're can.
It was it was kinda funny because... Well,
in both cases, went at the condo and
even later,
when we moved to the rental here in
Oc osaka,
when we set up for
the
the podcast and and doing the livestream stream
at that time. It was a major
to do. Mh. Because we were still using
my computer,
and we had to run all the cables
on the other side of the room,
To the sofa, we had to
put up the lights and done take the
lights down,
do all that, and and we did that
through.
After we moved to Oc call.
We bought this house because of the office.
We bought this house because the office. We
got a dedicated computer. Yes. We have more
a setup, which is not as not what
I'd like it to be, but it is
so much better than it was. But it's
like. Oh, yeah. And in all that time.
So the podcast,
Morph. Mh. But in that that time, also,
we got married.
Yep. Oh, yeah. We sold the condo,
moved to this town rented for a year
bought this house specifically for the office that
we now in. And the the shed in
the back that's where you work to. Mh.
Got a got Lola, Onyx and Ella all
within a few months of moving into this
house.
So, like, everything has... She a few months
after moving into the house, Sa passed away.
I know. And it was after
Sa the dog for somebody who might be
hearing is our dog. Yeah. Arch chill old
dude because he was a senior dog.
Within a a couple months after that, that's
when we started racking up pets.
You
every month for 3 months,
October
December
Boom. Mh. Yeah. Onyx came first? Yes. And
then Lola. Then Lola. And then Ella. Ella.
In that time, and in the time of
the podcast,
the oldest is now a grown ass adult
and in college.
Living on his own.
Right. The youngest is went from being, like,
little little and freaking kindergarten to
Now he's about to finish middle school in
his home school and, like, everything in life
has changed. Like, fundamentally, we are who we
are.
I think, fundamentally, this podcast is what it
is. It's clearly had changes in shifts And,
like, whatever over all these years, all these
episodes, but
you know, And then in our... Like our
personal life.
We are... Again, We are who we are,
but also everything changed.
Yeah. Yeah. So... Yep, Yep.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's a question.
How are you y'all celebrating pride this year?
I don't celebrate pride.
Not because I
have any problem. Pride. I your problem. Pride.
A, 1,
in where we live, there'll be some stuff,
but it'll be very low key because it's
a very good conservative area
2, if we wanted to do pride celebrations,
we would have to travel, not that far.
No. But 3
Gainesville or I'm sure. Yeah. But 3 for
me, personally, the idea of being in the
crowds.
I'd I
and there are many things I would rather
do that are quite violent and would
result in my own bodily
not because I don't wanna celebrate pride, but
because I I don't want to be with
the crowds.
I I you. I wouldn't mind the crowds.
I know you're better frame. Mh.
It... It's just a matter of logistics.
Yeah. Getting there.
At this point.
You know, we were still in the Tampa
bay area.
You can't... I mean, you can't kinda can't
go anywhere without pride being part of, like,
the celebration for a whole month. I mean,
you might not go to a parade. You
might not go to a party. You might
not do that. Mh. But there would then
still... You'd go into a business and it'll
be rainbow boat out. It'd be great.
Yeah. I mean, it's here. It's it's it's
it's kinda sad here, you know, and when
when we live back in the Tampa Bay
area,
you know, you used to see a lot
of people doing doing things for pride,
you know, people would put flags out, you
know, people would decorate,
inside and outside their home. Mh.
Around here, it's sad to say we have
seen a few people fly
a pride flag, and it has never been
for long and out gone. Are across the
street neighbors who are fixtures in this neighborhood.
Yeah. They
no. They're the best place to go If
you wanna know what's going on with this
person down the street and what's happened to
that. They keep their pride
flag it in their bag. Their backyard.
Yeah. So and we'd... You know, we thought
about when we got this house, we thought
about putting up a pride flag,
you know, because 3 of the 4 of
us are not straight,
and all I worried about was the kids.
So
was like, yeah, Maybe maybe not. You know?
Mh.
If they... If if if all the kids
were home and they were legal adults, would
be, like, what do you think and then
we go from there, but while they were,
you know, minors, I was like, yeah. I'm
not I'm not bringing the cra to their
doorstep anymore than I. And I. I believe
speaking of which,
I believe today is the anniversary
of pulse
Really? Oh my gosh. Is it? Yeah. I
believe. Oh,
the
in Orlando. I mean, we weren't even connected
to it and it No. Knocked wind out
of me. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
God... I see. I happened to see it,
so I'll answer it. The person who asked
the question and asked have to follow nothing
at home. Oh,
nah. I just... It never
mean, I think for me, 1, I don't
being mostly straight. I don't tend to think
of it, but 2, I think we're both
so old. We remember a pre pride time.
So it just sort of I wear my
pride underwear. You do. You do.
And you are
pans sexual walking around on this planet. So
they're for
get is pride wherever you go.
I know. If you wanted to do something
I would I would happily do something. I
know you would. I just did never
for me personally,
you know, it never occurs me. Does do
you think about it? Now Having an existential
crisis?
Should we be doing something You. I don't
know. I don't know.
I... You know I will. I know. I
you I know.
We're good. Okay. We're guys. Check. Maybe I
should ask the the 14 herald. See 1
evening.
I will. No.
I will happily. You. But you're, like, you
know,
you would think if I know in the
Tampa bay area, We walk into a pub
bakery greet. There'd be radio cakes left right
everywhere here. Not here. Not here. Not at
least in our neighborhood. No. So... Yeah, Kinda
sucks.
Okay. Next question.
What are your daily tasks that your dom
expects you to do, consequences if not done,
that 1 is directed me. So my daily
tests are pretty,
simple.
I... So starting... Let me start from the
top of the day down.
First thing in the morning, I am
now 3 days a week. I'm getting up
against my will and following Jb outside because
we're gonna go for a walk, and, yes,
I'm doing that. It's a us thing, but
it is still a thing I'm expected to
do.
I'm gonna make his iced coffee and have
it ready for him.
If we are eating the same thing for
breakfast,
it's not an official task let we negotiate.
This is the thing I do now. I
do make it.
I get his probiotic
ready and available for him.
Was not a negotiated. It was 1 that
I added.
And then
the day is quiet. I just do what
needs to be done as it's... Asked of,
but there's very little in the middle of
the day. Did you make my eyes coffee
yet? Yeah. I was forcing this out. Okay.
And then we get to the end of
the day. Mh.
And
I will get the coffee pot ready for
his hot coffee in the morning, he makes
it himself, but I make it So all
he has to do is push a button.
When we go to bed, I get the
bed ready, and I get the bedroom ready.
So I have to make sure my chair
is tucked in. And at my vanity, and
I have to make sure all the pillows
are set up, and I have to, like,
remind him of, hey, did this happen or
if I see something that's not been done
hey And then, of course, I'll usually get
shit because I reminded him something that he
hadn't forgotten. And I'm like, if I hadn't
reminded you, you would have forgotten and then
you'd bet on my case, and we have
those commerce. Patients.
I don't think they're required, but I think
they're good bonuses. Yeah.
And then
He gives me permission to get in the
bed, and that routine is I've bend over
the bed. He rubs my ass, smack my
ass, some
combination of the tube depending on his mood,
and then I can't get in the bed
till so it gives me permission.
And that's kind of it for the the...
Have I missed any thing that's like the
day to day? Well, that that that was
pretty much the day day here at home.
Now if we go out. Yes. It, if
we go out,
Thing meaning that we get in the car
and and had go go somewhere.
Once we are leaving the house,
Kayla is not allowed to touch door handles?
No.
If I if I am touching door handles
it's because he's told me yeah go ahead.
Right.
When we get in the car she will
ask if I want my sunglasses. Yep. And
if so, you will take them out, give
them me and then put away my Mh.
My regular glass. Is. Mh. When we are
walking in the store,
she is to always be on my right
side. Mh.
Also sleep on your right side. Yes. Or
something about the right side. I know. Because
it's the correct side, my dominant hand.
Everything about 2 is dominant day.
When we go to a restaurant, we haven't
done this any long time because we don't
lot to eat as often as we too.
But if we go to a restaurant and
he has coffee,
I put his cream and sugar in. Yeah.
I have had many a server, don't kinda
get you wear hug because they'll put his
coffee in front of him and then I
just pull it to me. Yep. And and
I start doctor it. Start doctor it up.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So... Yeah. So... That's the, like, the stuff.
If mh. If I don't do it, like,
I can't I know technically, there's a consequence
if I just don't do it.
But I cannot fathom at this point. It's
been. You you have been doing many years.
You have been doing it now for so
many years. It it is like a a
automatic... It's just a part of the routine.
It... It's just a part of your your
your life routine anymore.
In the beginning, there there was
some punishment,
corner time.
Yeah. Mostly in the beginning, some
some writing
lines. Mh.
But now,
the only times
she may miss doing her tasks,
and that is when I tell her, she
is not to do them. Usually you have
sick or... When when you when you have
a migraine when you, you know, sick for
some reason, and
you know, then it's, like,
no. You're off doing. Right.
Not being better. I don't love it, but
that's the thing. At this point in our
relationship, if I can see a reason for
me not to do a task coming from
a mile away,
and there's
0
discomfort with going, hey,
something is going on or or hey, bio
I'm not even gonna be here. How do
you wanna handle this? Or Mh. You know,
those kinds of things. Is just... We've been
doing it today I'm long.
The best chance sir, for me to get
a consequence
for not doing a task, which still has...
I don't think has happened yet or has
not happened since the very early days
is if you assign, you tell me, I
want you to do this thing and by
some
weird,
like,
time warp
alternate universe
situation, I don't get it done with, again,
without
communicating why I'm not getting it done. We're
just
Like, that's...
Yeah. This those consequences would be in place
if I didn't, but
I mean,
I... Think the last time I faced a
consequence for doing something I wasn't supposed to
or not doing something I was. I think
we were still long distance.
I think we were visiting 1 another.
No. No? Nope.
We were in the apartment. Oh, god. That
was the very first year we looked together.
Yes. Still. That was 20 14.
I was 10 years ago. Yeah. I know.
I know. So at this point in our
power exchange, it just...
I can get consequences,
but it tends to be,
you know, what does that mouth do? Smart
off? Okay.
That's what the mouth does more than anything.
Tends this Ass is strong today.
Yeah. That mouth
over steps.
If I'm gonna get a cons for anything
it's gonna be for. It's not gonna be
for actions or lack them no that. No.
She not. She she is very, very good
about doing her... Coincidentally her tasks and and
taking
care of the things that have been Mh.
Been set for her,
you know, even with this new thing with
us going out walking 3 days in in
in the morning,
Yeah. Today was a hard day. It was
a hard day for her, but she did
it. I was only able to do it
because you were up and moving.
And I realized... I don't know how for
how long that will last. I don't know
when the dopamine will wear off for both
of us. I don't know. I don't know
when that time will happen. But for right
now, if he's up, and I know this
is what we're doing. It's an agreement it's
a thing we negotiated. Mh I'm up. Now
was I grumpy about. Yeah.
Here's here's how
as a submissive, I feel my feelings, but
don't get my ass into trouble.
I'm grumpy,
but I'm quiet about it. And yes, I
am capable of that. Just it's pouch. Is
what I do. I walk, like, about half
a foot behind him on this right. And
I just po. Now, the po got stronger
when he lengthen our walk this morning,
thought we were gonna go home, and he
just kept walking straight. And again, I didn't
say anything. Well, you know that out this
morning was... So strong. I was waiting to
see that bottom lip drag the ground. I
wondered if the sheer force of the pallet
would get you to turn around. I I
didn't know if you were in your own
little old be bop down the street or
if you felt the power of my displeasure
behind. I did. And what did it do?
We walked we walked longer.
World No. I didn't start counting till you
passed our driveway and... No. You were pounding
when we'd left the. No. I was I
was tired. Yeah, but I I wasn't.
No. No. It the... It intensified.
I was a perfectly happy place by the
time I got home. I was, like, I'm
tired, but I'm glad we did this you
know, my... Feet hurt. No No. The actual
po,
the legit... The bottom went was hanging was
when you just went right past our driveway.
And I was like, I add 1 I
had asked myself in my head because again,
I was grumpy, so I knew what I
needed to do... Keep my day and mouth
dry.
I had thought to myself. I wonder if
he's gonna try and make this longer because
we're moving faster through this walk. And
maybe not, maybe you'll just make that a
friday thing. No. It was not this the
friday.
Than with the woman. Mh
Again though, here... Here's the thing. The thing
that will get me in trouble where I
will have consequences is not the things I
and not doing the things I'm supposed to
do, or doing things I'm not supposed to.
That's not it for me. It's this mouth.
The lips flap.
I'm not a fan of that. Okay. Thank
you.
I'll tell you why later. Okay. So,
alright.
But, yeah, like, that that's where consequences has
come in for me. Early days when I
was learning the tasks you wanted me to
do, and I was keeping them straight in
my head until a root teen
formed. Yeah. You were pretty
lenient with me in the beginning. Were very
understanding. I mean, it's to me, it is
kind of the difference between some people would
say soft dom versus hard dump. I mean,
we've had that episode Right y'all know how
I feel. Mh.
For me and my experience, it's the difference
between a care giving dom, whether you use
daddy or mommy or some equivalent.
And
not care giving dom because you are
extremely
understanding
of
everything else going on. So you watch me,
and I feel like the only time there
was a consequence
for forgetting to do something in those early
days,
was if I really needed to learn the
lesson because I had just forgotten 1 time
too many, and you were like, okay, this
is the only way this is gonna stick
or if it appeared to be will. Like
Right. While I was trying to learn a
routine, you were not punishing me because I
was brand new to a thing. Like, Don't
know were you ever gonna do that. It
didn't seem. You know, there to me, at
least there's... There should be
you know, a...
I guess, like, training period? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
Exactly. And as long as I was giving
it a good faith effort. I think you...
There was no no world in which there
was gonna be a consequence. No. No. For
the growing pains of learning. If you were,
you know,
hadn't been putting in an effort, and you
were just s off and out have been
a different story. Right. But, there's not... No.
I have that ability to just, like, dick
around for lack of a... I couldn't think
of another word, but that's the only in
my now.
I have that ability, but when I feel
like something is my responsibility
and or I know there will be consequences,
I just
I just mostly don't.
Okay. We have 1 last question from Instagram.
Okay. So what I'm gonna I'm gonna pause
here.
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last question, if you have any questions,
and you're watching the live stream, feel free
to go ahead and ask. Okay. Last question
from Instagram.
What is your opinion on
stealth slash
discreet play either at home or public?
And then they say congrats on the milestone.
Thank no. Thank you.
The discreet play of, like, you're getting your
King kong, but nobody fucking know your Okay.
That's how I take it. If it means
don't know. Sorry. What educate me? Okay. Read
the question again. What is your opinion on
stealth slash discreet play either at home or.
As far is at home. Our entire power
exchanges stealth
pretty much. Yeah.
You know,
you do you. You know, if if if
it for you is doing it at home.
You know what? Your your just is kinky
anybody else. And quite frankly, if you have
kids, you kinda have to be. Yeah. As
discreet as possible Right. If you don't want
them up open and your be... Sure. Now
now in, you know, about the public thing,
The public thing, I'm I'm a little
little torn about. I mean, there are people
who do some play in public.
And there are ways to be And and
and there are ways to be discrete about
it, You know, But the thing you really
have to,
you know, think about, especially when you're in
public,
the other folks out there in public did
not consent. Right. It's, you know, it's 1
of those things that Well, to me at
least, before you go play in public as
discreet as can, you have to think through
it and then decide how... You know, what
you're gonna do if you get found out
because a couple of things. 1, you might
get found out and now your banned from
that restaurant.
Your boss was sitting 2 tables over, but
you didn't see them.
Right. Your kids
teacher is in the... Like, who the fuck
no. So there's gonna be consequences
some of the times. Right. If your private
play in public? Book known. So can you
handle those too? Are you taking the precautions
so that that discreet play is really discreet?
I have early days.
10 plus years ago, Bend the person. I
think with you and with another partner who
absolutely was wearing the viper,
yeah, public.
That was not the time to play
with the high powered vi that was guaranteed
to have me screaming in an ga.
That I could not control because then that
play is no longer discreet. Right. It's very
public. It was more of a o this
could get you there. And if it gets
you there,
you know, it's gonna be a... It's not
gonna be the forceful, like, power of the
magic wand, get you there. It's more like
the slow burn slow bill. And it's your
job to, like,
not make it obvious
everybody else. That was a fun form of
play because if I absolutely had to,
I could, you know, pretend at a stomach
I could pretend... I wouldn't be screaming. You
know what I mean? Mh. I wouldn't be,
like making my
pants wet.
I'm Like, and wasn't that kind of thing.
But, I mean, in in general,
I'm... I'm kind of a... You do you
wherever, but I agree with you. Mh.
Be very... My opinion is to be very
careful of...
Private play in public because, yeah. It's... And
there's there's a... There can be a fine
line. Yeah. Because quite frankly, I mean, I've
we've seen the articles. We've talked out the
articles in the past of, you know,
dumb walks their partner in... I on a
leash to the grocery store. Okay. The grocery
store to me would be a no because
they're gonna be kids there. Now,
I'm not on saying, oh, no. What about
the children? They couldn't handle, you know, They'd
probably be like, oh, are they playing a
pretend game? You can, like,
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking
about from a Kingston perspective. If I don't
let my own fucking kids see it. I'm
not gonna let some strangers kids see it.
Regardless of what I think about, you know,
mh.
You know, think of the children and bullshit
like that. So like, those are the kinds
of things, I'm thinking of. There will absolutely
be people who go, I can do whatever
I want. Yes. You can. Mh. And there
might be consequences
for that. So be prepared to pay the
cleansers.
I don't wanna get banned from Walmart or
target or all these. So I won't be
playing there in an obvious way.
So right.
Yeah.
I think it's a sticky 1. I think
I think at home,
you know,
you have
adults,
you know,
non kinky friends or family over. Mh. You
gotta be just street. You got kids. You
gotta be discreet.
You know? I mean, a lot a lot
of us a lot of the normal that
Kayla does for me.
Are things that she can do even when
there's family around.
Oh, yeah. All those tasks I list around
previously... Mh. I mean,
Other than the ones that definitely only have
behind closed doors,
nobody
is gonna clock it unless they know us
and had that conversation with them. We did
that own purpose because we moved in together,
and the boys were
was 20 14
So
when we moved in together, the oldest was
9,
and his brother was
no.
4 and 8. Yeah. I don't know how
time works anymore. Yeah. Because he was he
was still when we first
moved there,
He was going... Well, that was during the
summer, but he was in the... The youngest
was in k. He was he was in
pre k when we were in
the
in the apartment. When we first moved in
together. So that's my whole point. We moved
in together and wanted to be A47
Power exchange couple.
And had 2 young kids running around who
were fully gonna ask fucking questions and they
saw something. Oh, yeah. So we designed our
entire power exchange around what could we do
that was meaningful to us that nobody would
clock.
It's why I get strange looks if I
start fixing this worth coffee because people don't
expect that, and there I am doing it.
The kinks side
the actual fucker. We got very, very lucky
that in their young years, the kids slept
hard. Light past out early and hard. Yes.
Yeah. And slept through the fucking night. Mh.
I mean, we we still had to be
quiet. We had to be aware. I mean,
the nice thing even. Even with the condo,
you know, 1 of the things we look
for and we when we bought the place
and even here was split plan. Mh. You
know, So the boys were run. And part
of the search process is 1 of us
in in the bedroom making as much noise
as we think we might. And when It
was in another room going, can I hear
that? If I hear that do I know
what I hear?
Oh, yes. That is part of the the
property
owning or renting process and when you have
choices. Like, I gotta know what can be
heard and what can't. In this house, it's
a true split. We are completely across the
way. And up until recently, we had some
stuff around our door
that, like, kept out all sound. We could
do almost anything. I couldn't scream like that
would be the thing I couldn't do. But,
you know, I mean, I don't even... My
brain can't even fathom them when we don't
have to be discreet. Right. Like, it's just
it's been too long with having to be.
But we just
made our... A kin relationship that discreet from
the very beginning. So now we can go
out in public and we're being power exchange
you, but nobody knows. Mh. Yep. Yep. So
Yeah.
Okay. So what I'm learning is summer q
and A's
are not the thing. Are not the thing
it's great client. But thank you all for
the questions we got. Yep.
Mister Bot mentioned in the live chat, folks
seem to forget that freedom of speech slash
action doesn't mean freedom from consequences. True. Dude
seem to get real surprised when there's consequences.
Not to get too the weeds, but here.
I'm I'm having a little drinking drink, and
I feel no pain right now.
Freedom and of speech is the government not
being allowed to tell you what to say.
Anybody else gets to say whatever the fuck
they want in response to you saying whatever
the fuck you want. So a business can
tell you you can't be in their establishment
because you, you know,
express yourself. Mh.
A website can tell you you can't be
there because you expressed yourself. And I know
that because how many platforms have we been
kicked off of.
First of sex and then with podcasting, Like
plenty of online businesses have full freedom to
tell you you can't. Have that speech.
Platform, and that speech is, please communicate with
your partner
when you're in a Power exchange. So, yeah.
But, you know, it... It's funny.
You know, that you say that because
I I have noticed
so much for... And... And I'm I'm not
gonna say the the social media platform,
but it's 1 that I am on,
more than most.
And,
you know,
we are on that platform
in a number of different ways. Mh. Okay.
Between Loving Bd and between the can between
personal pages between, you know... Or vanilla shop
page Vanilla shop page blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah.
And, you know, they they are so opposed
to
any sex educators, You know, I have to
be So careful how... What you say is?
Lord jesus. Okay.
You know,
even even with our our
toy business, we have to
be careful with certain things. Oh, yeah. Alright.
Yet.
Yet on that platform.
I am inundated
with advertisements
for e electoral dysfunction. Yes. Because they rewrote
the rules so that was considered sexual health,
And it is sexual health. It is. Okay.
However,
I I get
actual ads
because it says sponsored. Yeah Yeah. Off, 6
toys.
That's a new thing. Yeah. That's a very
new thing. I'm thinking that the the platform
needed money and realize that the sex people
have has money.
Okay.
And
inundated
wit stuff
regarding hemp and flour.
Oh, I bet you are. Okay.
And yet,
I know. You know?
I know so... And, yeah, the reason we
do not have a living bd Tiktok account
is because you say 1 wrong word, and
they you're you
Yeah. Do not have the patients to create
accounts. Mh. And get booted and have to
do it again. Y'all. It's been
8 or 9 years, and I'm still pissed
about the fucking Instagram handle. Okay?
No. No. I do not have it in
me
to
get booted off a damn platform multiple times.
You know, I have people who ask us
all the time, little things like,
you know, do you have a do you
have a thing where I can just send
you...
I think it's called coffee.
I always said c fired. I didn't know
they were trying to say coffee. Like, buy
me at coffee or or 1 of those
kinds of things come Don't know. They booted
us 8 years ago. I think it was
yeah. I remember now they san fucking name.
There's 2. There's a buy me a coffee,
and then there's the other 1. Right. Both
booted us. We weren't. That's true. That's selling
Sexual services or fake. Not that there's anything
fucking wrong with that.
We were just... We had a little button
on our site. You people who wanted to,
like, a 1 time support
situation.
I jumped through all of Patreon tubes. I
mean, I don't blink. Like, people I don't...
I I like the fact that we talk
about
the
communication and the nuance... Of the relationship side
of Power exchange. That's where I want to
play. Mh. But
I also know that there's... We tried on
our patreon since do
fully closed, like, demos and Mh. Like, really
Pg
13
And they who not... Nope And patreon unchanged
its rules and I went. I'm I'm not
even gonna try and navigate that part, but
I'll play by the rest of their role.
So... So you know, signs in is
is she on the wrong platform.
I'm... I I just fell into the dark
side of the
black. I think it's because all the apps
and the devices talk to 1 another. Yeah.
And I know what your search history.
I know you do. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, like, I just... I
mean, talk about 400 episodes, thinks shit we've
seen shit.
You know?
We I can't try... And I can't add
a new thing to podcast to Youtube to
our website.
To Patreon
without reading the all the fine print of
the terms of service to go, okay. What
are the what are the chances we'll get
kicked off of this to the 1 at
at some point.
Yeah. Yeah. And we purposely make our content.
So it's it's all of it even in
the shop even the King is pg g
13. Yeah. It's
it's a balancing act. Mh.
Mh Mh. It's like walking a high.
So the Yep.
But... Yeah. So that's...
That's our q and A. That's our celebration
of 400.
I don't wanna say it's anti anticlimactic because
I am happy for the people who are
here and the people who are,
participated. Man,
middle of the summer the time Yeah. I
We know from personal experience of doing this
for all these years and
blogger for longer than that, and then the
shop for hell long with it. The summer
is on everything guys. People got shit to
do. Right. That's fine. We're Hey. That's bother.
Kids out of school. People travel, people know
house. Yeah. Well, okay. Is that... We're the
odd? Okay.
But normal people are,
you know, the kids are at of school
seem to be normal. Yeah. No. You know,
They're...
Kids are out of school. They're traveling. They're
they're, you know, doing things. So, you know,
yeah. I don't blame them. Mh.
You know,
wasn't hotter than surface of the sun round
here. I would go out and do things
too.
Yeah. I know. Right.
I don't know. Silent asked if for sure
it's not the evening time slot.
It's hard to say. Our numbers
our equivalent
midday to evening. Mh. Not necessarily watching live,
but
Yeah. Overall. Mh. So, I don't know. Time
change might has something to do with it.
Like, I'm not...
U.
It's fine. We're glad for the questions that
we gone.
I know the 1 thing before we go
into the shoulder bonus section. And this feels
very bonus section. Bonus bonus eat bonus bonus.
Okay.
But
I know we're gonna take AAA week off
at some point over the next few weeks
at this point I have a feeling it's
gonna be very last minute. Yeah. The feeling
I'm gonna get a text from my mom
that just goes I'm getting on the road
tomorrow. I know. I've I've got I've got
things that, you know, people are asking me
about, and I'm like, I I don't know.
I I don't know.
I don't know I don't know what to
do.
So if we just start posting on social
at some point, hey, we're not we're not
recording or streaming next week, That's what happened
my mother's is coming to down. Yeah.
So...
Yeah. I am I will say... I'll also
say about the time change. For when I
say, I know it's harder for some people
and. I hate that because I... I want
the people who want to be here to
be here. Be able to... Has been so
amazing for me personally.
And and and for me too,
you know,
while it can still be warm.
I'm right now?
It is nowhere near what it is during
the day with with when the sun because
this room, the sun beats down on it.
Sure.
For... I mean, I don't even... I'm not
even talking how but temperature I walk around
hot all the time. So you're you're you're
walking talking breathing.
I'm talking about... I no longer
feel like I wake up on a Wednesday
morning and rushed through my morning to slide
in, Mh. Tire sq into a noon live
stream.
Like, I just...
I know it's not
coming off in in how I
how I present myself, but I am a
lot calmer
coming into these live streams, than I am
at the the 12:00 slot. Yeah.
I really am I've had a whole day.
I can pace myself throughout the day. I
can get some stuff done. I can, like,
help. We are guaranteed to eat before a
live now because we have dinner first. Right.
Yeah. So... Silent, you know, I I own
it. I'm old.
Silence said...
Sounds I like 11PM would be great,
but we're old. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We know...
I'm I assume. You know, most weekends, I'm
lucky to make it to 11PM.
Oh, I know. Right aid.
Same.
Yeah.
And and, you know, I I knew
changing the time for the for the stream.
You know, was gonna be a trade off
There, you know, they're always there there's gonna
be some people who could make it more
easily in the evening, you know, and and
some that you know, during the day, they...
Like, that's the only time I got. I
can't do. You know, So it's... Yeah.
You know, it... It's a trade off.
I'm I'm well aware of that. But but
it always was. The sheer amount of people
who would tell me. I wish I could
make a midday livestream stream, but I'm at
work, And it's like, I get it. Totally
get it.
So
Yeah.
You know, to be honest,
someone said, try 9 instead of
11.
That's not Richardson watching time. Farming. I mean,
I might
be able, you know,
maybe 8.
We.
We do 09:31
time a month, and it wreck us for
2 days. Yeah. We are too fucking old.
I know. I mean, yeah. When when we
do the do the Friday night hang out,
Mh
And we go to midnight or or something,
you know,
Like we did later.
You know, yeah. We're we we're tired the
next day.
Oh, we are robin
ass the next day. I mean, do we
get to sleep in? Sure. Do we actually
sleep it? But do we actually
sleep in and make up, no. We don't.
Because we we have
stuff we're doing. Yeah. You're concerns... Try out.
Over the cl.
Because after 400 episodes we are super
professional. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm trying to
learn how to embrace.
We some of the chaos because some of
the chaos is distracting and I know that.
But
trying to embrace the fact that this is
never going to be
a super professional
podcast
stream video whatever,
where we're kinda scripted and we say exactly,
like, exactly the right thing. Right? When and
it's, like, we're point by point like, this
just... Because it's never been me and god
love you You're along for the ride at
this point. You have your opinions. But if
I was not here shoving a microphone in
your face,
you
you would not share them the way that
you share them on The podcast. No. No.
I would. So,
it is all my fault.
But,
you know, I I continue to believe your
vibe attracts your tribe. I like the people
who are hanging out with us. Sure. Sure.
We are very fortunate.
I do not read our podcast reviews because
it... I I am not
a person who can handle it in a
in a way that is constructive. Mh. That's
me knowing myself. I do believe reviews are
for other people reviews.
Are to let other people who find us
have an idea of what they can expect,
accurately or not. There you go.
And our comments on Youtube every once in
a while, like 1 of our videos will
hit the wrong side of of not the
Internet, but like, the kin world, and I'll
get some judge bullshit. But for the most
part, the folks who follow us and interact
with this at least,
are your fucking grown maps. I hope you
are. If you were under 18 and hear
the son of my voice. I will round
your ass. Turn the stamp podcast stuff.
But you're grown adults who understand that adults
can have
a variety of opinions,
And if you're here it's because you wanna
be here, and we have, like a really
kind
snarky, and I love that about us.
So sarcastic sassy audience.
But a you're like, you know, a, we're
all adults here, and we're just gonna be
adults, and we don't get a lot of
the bullshit drama ever. Months a while I'll
get somebody. Yeah.
Every once small. And I promise you if
I get 1 of those kinds of comments
or whatever. Most of the time I ignore
it because I'm like,
No. That's not who I want to be.
But if if you piss me off enough
that I respond to you.
Honey, just log off for the day. Okay.
I do not respond often,
but I,
that's when I actually become assertive. So just
just go ahead and log off for the
day. Because you have
you have
clearly,
taken 1 step too far over a line.
Don't know where the line is. Well. I
know I I know I know for me
sleeping in.
And we're back on sleeping in. I was
ranting. I was giving people what they wanted.
Right?
Well I never got to say what I
wanted to say. Do you ever?
The podcast is really...
The real title should be Kayla never lets
Cha own don't talk.
No fewer words have ever been uttered.
No.
I love you baby. I love you too.
I love you. I just don't think anybody
understands how quiet and short this podcast are
be if jb be lettuce. Okay?
Yeah. Power changes are great.
You should talk to 1 another.
We're gonna have to use a vlogger.
Okay. Great talk to. Have a good 1.
You could have done the script did 5
minute thing that I dreamed of doing. All
those years yeah? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes.
So... But, yeah, no. Sleeping in for me.
Most most of the time is
is 7.
Yeah.
Lately. Lately, I have been I I have
been sleeping in a little bit. A little
bit more.
Yeah. I have I have been. Because I've
been actually getting up after you. Yes.
Because I also... I used to be able
to sleep in. If I stayed up late,
I could sleep until
I was pissed if I was waking up
at 10AM because that was not late enough.
There was a time. I could sleep until
11:30
Yeah. Noon
was not long ago.
That was... That was... Not often, But, yes,
I still had the ability to do it.
Then
I started hitting a point where 9AM
was late for me.
And now
because of the... Whatever... The things that on
my body that hurt in the middle of
the night. Yeah. Late for me is about
07:00.
And that's that's about as late as I
can go. Yeah. Now, now a few times
because we we have 1 young lady here
in our household.
Her name is Ella.
Oh my god.
And
at at 6AM.
She begins singing the song of her people.
Where she's clearly wasting away. She's starving to
death. Yep. She's been abandoned. And and Ella,
has 1 of those
cries
very high pitched
and and almost grading.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, there have
been sometimes too.
I have gotten up
at at that hour.
Fed all the fur babies.
Plop down on the couch.
Gone back to sleep. And gone back to
sleep. Yeah.
I'm that person that once I'm awake I'm
awake once I'm up.
We are firmly in bonus section
conversation territory.
So I think we should officially get there,
And then we can keep talking about naps.
If that's what you wanna talk about. Right?
So we're good.
No. I would not say that, but we
did make it through our 400
episode. So that's.
So, but I guess we're there. Yeah. If
it wasn't chaotic,
would it be us? No. No. K. If
you wanna know if we've been, like, kidnapped
and our bodies have been action these are
impostor. If we're not chaotic,
it ain't fucking ass. Right. If you ever
see us being fucking professional with a polished
set
you... That that's a call for help. It
is it is. It really is.
Alright. Now. Are we good. I don't know.
Keep it all. We think we'll see you
next week.
Yes, babe. Can we continue talking the creek
about whatever you would like them about talk
to them about. Okay. Yeah. Go for it.
Go ahead. You were the 1 talking about
now. Now I lost My.
Oh, I Gone now... Gone out. Yeah. I
think that was the whole
you know, that was where I was heading
for. So
I'm there. We're there.
We're there.
Weird there. Yep.
I will, for this week, resurrect emoji of
the week, tissue,
suggested in access followed, it is the... I
don't know how to describe that 1. It's
the celebration emoji, but it's like the... Mh.
It's like the stream horn looking thing. I
don't know what that one's called. If somebody
has a word for it. Feel free to
to give it to me.
But it's that 1. Yep. So in whatever
way we are connected online. That 1. In
the comments
on social media,
in a reply to the
newsletter.
That's the emoji. It's the party party popper.
Thank, Si. Party popper. The confetti 1. That's
I would say mister Scott. Alright.
If anybody ever like,
was like, should I go watch the live
sometimes.
You just ignore us, you can listen to
the podcast later, Just like, watch full live.
Could be this too that would work.
What are you doing? I don't know. Everything
that's going wonky a here. No. You did
too sham. Champagne glasses. I got guess. I
know I did. Okay. Well aware of that.
But that's not the emoji of the week.
Really,
Really.
I am so glad you told me... I
didn't explain it howard it's now. You have
walked around in ignorance.
This whole time you just wouldn't have been
knowing stuff.
Access the short form for the emoji in
the week. Is on almost every platform is
Tada off.
Okay.
I have to try that. I've never done
it. I've always started typing
congratulations.
Yeah. That does that does work. Yeah. And
it did came up.
There you. Okay. Mh.
There were some things I was definitely gonna
talk about in the bonus section, and now
I can't remember what they were.
Fascinating. I know.
I don't remember what.
Oh, can I complain about At etsy for
half a minute?
Go right ahead.
The Loving Bd Etsy shop. As far as
I know.
Is up and running smoothly if you are
a buyer.
We encourage you. Go floor. Shop. Have a
good time.
But on the gift side. Where I wanna
add some products and update some products and
make some changes.
It's not working. And that, you know, that
happens. Okay. Fine.
So I use... I do Etsy support. There's
no email. Not not for somebody let me
and And I'm probably not big enough. Maybe
if I had to, like a bigger... We
had a bigger shop. Maybe I get an
email to somebody. Know. I can use the
phone option that's not fucking happening. Mh. Or
I can use the chat
function, and I know it's gonna be...
No It's not gonna be robust in the
chat function, but I like,
I like the chat function. I used the
chat function when I discovered this problem was
occurring.
I was given a laundry list of things
to do that I did not think would
work, but I was like, I'll try them.
Mh. I do the laundry list of things.
I want to go back in to tell
somebody.
This is not working,
but the hat function in my account is
also stuck.
And only shows me the last chat I
had and will not let me connect to
a new person
nor does the
Ai
or bot or other person, I don't know
who I was speaking to before.
Doesn't it let me message them either And
so I am in a support purgatory
where I can't tell anybody
electronically at least, that I still have the
problem
but also, the problem is not being fixed.
A week, a week I've gone them like
this.
Yeah. And it just seems to be heard.
Shop my shop. Not a fan. My vanilla
shop is perfectly fine. I added a whole
bunch of listings the other day I was
very proud of myself.
I wanna add some to the loving Bd
at Etsy shop. I really not.
So, yeah. That's my complaint of the week.
Yeah.
Yeah. You know, it
and in
tissue even said Etsy getting worse. I know.
My. I know. And understand. It's it to
me, it ever since they went public.
That's usually when things go downhill with most
platforms.
Yeah.
And ex, I even brought that up to
her. Shadow bet with a shadow band. My
experience with shadow banning is more that you
are count can't be seen by others, that
may be true. I don't know.
But I should at least be able to
see version. Operate my own
dashboard no. And I know some features work
because I clicked on a button
in
etsy today where they were like, oh, do
you wanna update this pricing thing on your
shop, and I went, I don't even think
anything's working right now, but I'll click the
button and see what happens. Click the button.
We have updated these blog blog listings.
Yeah. Oh, so you you work for that,
but not.
The the 1 thing I think I I
find funny. I remember a while back at
etsy
had said they were going to come out
with a way
to compare prices
for similar items. Oh, and on your dashboard
as a seller? Yes. Yes. They do have
that. As a seller. Mh. I haven't used
it, but... I see... And and I was
very excited
about that.
Okay. Because I really wanted to be able
to... You know, I I had done some
of that. I but I do it manually
Manually too. Yeah. And and looking
you know, so I was I was very
excited when when this... When I saw this.
So when it when it came up,
I like, oh, I gotta see this. What
is it? Where's is it telling me? And
and it
it
It it was not very good for me.
Oh, because it showed you all the mass
produced shit. It it showed me all the
mass produced
Remember you know stuff that was... That was
you know, coming out of Alibaba or Tam
or something, whatever the, you know, The drop
ships. The drop ship stuff, and and that's
what it was all showing me. And and
it's comparing
the price of
1 of my items
to that. 2 to a 2 dollar item.
Right. All, you're overpriced. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
since then, I I haven't even no. Bothered
with it.
Apparently, Etsy for 4 buyers. This is a
benefit for buyers and may benefit some sellers.
Yeah.
Etsy is going all in on this new
gift kind of feature where
buyers can look for products that are kinda
kind of flagged as these are definitely gifts
so that it is supposed to ideally
show you as a buyer, the handmade
unique stuff.
I have not played it as a buyer,
so I don't
know. Mh. If it's actually effective, but I
do know... Look, we don't watch, a lot
of
ad
supported
television streaming, whatever and we have what. I
think 1
streaming service were fucking hell they're
shown us ads all the time. And that's
how I just realized just how heavy
Etsy was into it because for a couple
of weeks, like every other ad was Etsy
gift feature for buyers. So if you're a
person who Shops on Etsy or wants to
shop on Etsy It it may benefit offend
you. I don't know. I haven't tried it
myself.
But III
like Etsy
for the most part.
I like that it's a platform I'm not
building from
scrap. Right. Do you mean many sites ourselves,
and it's a lot that Goes to it.
Yeah.
You know, it...
And and Ness just it, you don't have
to go and build a site from the
ground up, which is to kinda nice in
1 aspect.
You know, you do pay for with the
with the fees and whatnot. But I know
how much we paid on the kin group.
And what we pay in fees etsy dun
I can compare. Right. Does not even can
compare.
No.
But
I lost my grain thought.
Thank you. You're welcome. You like at etsy.
You know there's steve. But
You know, yeah. The the thing with the
with the mass produced stuff has gotten way
out of Oh, control. For sure for sure.
And
And I... As a seller, I'm constantly getting
surveys. Mh. From them? You know, how do
you like us? What can we do battery?
Yada yada? And I always say, you know,
the mass produced is, you know, thought that
he was supposed to be a crafter place.
Mh. And you know, it it it's not.
So but, you know, yeah, It keeps it
keeps happening. It it it seems to be
becoming more and more blatant
Oh, yeah. From there sure.
And I know what the answer is, but...
And, yeah, the times I've wanted to find
something like genuinely
unique. Mh. And I didn't... Like, Amazon was
just not the place. I find it on
Etsy. Mh.
So I don't know.
No, I don't know.
Know. No. I I was having thoughts of
does the loving Bd shop need to be
like, shopify.
Shopify
not cheap either? Or no.
I have priced that out because I thought
about how we do the Kin and have
been like, do we need to try something
different noon price wise.
Stay right where the fuck wait.
But
Yeah. So
buyers get kinda like, fucked over because they
don't have as much choices they should have
Right. Or good choices.
Sellers who are legit, get fucked over because,
you know, you can't survive if you're selling
at, you know, drop ship kind of, like,
2 dollar
prices because you get... If it cost you
2 dollars to buy that kin thing, 99.9
percent of the time, you are getting 2
dollars of value,
and that thing will break on you or
it will like, not work or it will
soccer. It will not be as advertised.
Like, yeah.
I don't know.
Oh know. It's, you know,
It's got it's good. It's scott's bad. Just
oh, yeah.
Else For sure for sure.
So... Mh. But, yeah, That's that's my complaint
this week.
Fucking etsy. I have
shirt designs and I have ideas, and I
can't fucking do what I wanna do.
Yeah,
because of because of whatever going on with
that etsy.
Sure.
I want... I can't let that go on
for too long. If I have to take
a fucking phone call from fucking activity so
fast.
So fast. Yep.
Yep yep.
I've avoided getting a prescription filled because in
order to make sure I'm not over paying,
I have to call some form.
Season. I really don't want to.
If I need to do that. Well, I
know. I'd rather actually, I think I've decided
where I just wanna go,
and be like bucket, the price is the
price. I had a pharmacy I was using
for a compounded
medication. Right? Like, not a typical
prescription. Bucket billable prescription.
And they changed owners and in the crop
handover from the old owner to the new
owner, they fucked up my prescription so bad.
I had to go back to my doctor
beg for them to rewrite the purse to
prescription, even though normally they would not, and
I only have
enough for
2 months is what the just where normally
I it for 6 months at a time.
And I was, like, I'm like, okay, I'm
not gonna go to this pharmacy because
it's... It got all I'll fucked up at
this pharmacy as things were changing over. I
don't know who fucked it up. I'm not
going there. Then I found out 1 of
my other options in town, but
Is the same owner as the new owner
of my old pharmacy owner. Well, that crosses
that 1 off. And so I have 2
other pharmacies
choose from.
1 is way to slick and polished. I'm
like, no. That polished costs money.
Your website's way too nice and you don't...
For your medical services do not accept insurance.
You are out of my tax bracket. So
I... My... I only have 1 other option
and it's 1 of those, it kinda doesn't
fucking matter what they charge because
they're it.
So I don't really need to make the
phone call. What I need to do is
make the drive there. K. You know what?
Girl?
And I... I really do. I made this
prescription. Yes. You do.
So now I'm knowing that
tomorrow.
Yes. You do. Tomorrow, you're gonna get that
taken care of.
Understood.
Yeah.
Yep. Tomorrow's day.
Okay. Fine.
So, yeah.
Those are my 2 complaints this week.
And I'm avoiding phone calls.
For everything
for all of it. If I can do
it. Do I have to take 10 extra
steps to avoid the phone call? Yes. Will
I those 10 extra steps without complaint to
avoid a fuck on. Also yeah.
Also, yes.
So all that being said,
do you have anything else you would like
to talk about on.
So... Okay.
I'm running out of steam.
You just popped out so much whatever.
Podcast was like, no, you can't see it,
but I know you fucking hear it.
So
on, we have 1
episode of season 2 of Bridge left to
watch.
We're on the last episode. I had to
be the Kill Joy last night that went,
hey.
This episode over an hour long, and it's
09:45. I and I said we have to
go to bed early. I had no concept
to time last night. And it was very
sad that I was a good girl who...
You were, who did... Because here's what had
happened. What would have happened if he... If
I hadn't said anything,
and he figured out, I knew what time
it was to because I'm a shit liar,
so I just don't bother. I do what
I just don't. I would have gotten. You
wanna talk about consequences.
That's where they're would have been consequences. So
I just
duck it up.
It would have been bad.
Because we had to get him a 05:30
to go, go do... Take a grumpy walk.
That fucking works, and it pisses me off
so bad that it works. Anyway, we need
to go because I wanna watch a Bridge.
Anyway, I love y'all. I wasn't grumpy when
I go. Oh,
great mood. Be especially making you go the
extra.
I am that person who will tell you
to goodbye and keep talking. I know. I
know who I am.
I did think today was a great
illustration
of
our power exchange working the way we intend
for it to because the last fucking thing
I wanted to do is was get out
of it this morning. This is a morning
that if it had been me deciding when
I need to walk out of out of
gun not today. She was really hoping for
rain. I was hoping for rain.
I did not get rain. But I knew
I knew need once I started, I would
eventually be happy that we had done it,
and I did get there until the block
not fucking extended whatever.
But I was really grateful that all I
had to do,
no thoughts, just vibes, follow jab down. And
as long as I just stay behind him
and do what he's doing.
We'll get through it. It was it was
delightful of the The brain was... It wasn't
that I shut off my brain. It was
that it was not capable of booting up
yet, and it was okay. I didn't have
to.
Yes. You know, it...
I I have to even for myself,
the walks.
You know, we're we're doing them 3 days
a week. Monday, Wednesday,
Friday right now,
and
they help. They do help. They do help.
Out so much. You know? Yeah. I was
I was kinda gru out in shop today.
It's, like, looking at me being so fucking
productive. Fuck you. Focus. The hell is this
shit. You brought me a literally box.
Like, I I aren't I had to use
a cardboard box because I made so non.
I couldn't use our
usual little Literally couldn't hold them in his
hand. No.
So
locks
fucking work apparently.
Fucking.
Anyway, we should go. Yes. Richardson calls. Mh.
Okay. Okay. Thank you y'all all for thanksgiving
for. Joining us. Thanks for being here with
us. Better end especially through the chaos. Each
and every 1 of him. We appreciate you
whether you've been listening. From the very fucking
beginning or you just showed up yesterday. Mh.
Just glad you're. Yeah. Glad you're hear. Took
you.
And we think we'll be here next week.
And and you know what? We we see
the numbers for the people watching live. Mh.
And, you know, the people that that comment.
And
we love our workers.
We do. Yeah. You know, even if you
never say a a word and chat, you
know, the numbers don't lie. We know you
there and we love you. Yep. Mh. So
we're gonna go now. We are. Richard. Okay.
Hi.