1 00:00:10,945 --> 00:00:12,645 - You are listening to living BDSM podcast. 2 00:00:12,815 --> 00:00:14,125 Kayla Lord's here with a one. 3 00:00:14,265 --> 00:00:16,445 The only, the, you're a little chipper, 4 00:00:16,445 --> 00:00:17,965 but also a lot sadistic today. 5 00:00:17,965 --> 00:00:20,005 John Brownstone. I am like, you're, 6 00:00:20,185 --> 00:00:22,205 you're a cheerful sadist. . 7 00:00:23,025 --> 00:00:24,725 - Is there any other way to be ? 8 00:00:25,525 --> 00:00:29,365 - I mean, you know, if, uh, if 9 00:00:30,375 --> 00:00:32,005 media would have you believe 10 00:00:32,005 --> 00:00:34,645 otherwise y'all are all supposed to be dark, 11 00:00:35,135 --> 00:00:37,845 maybe slightly demonic brooding. 12 00:00:38,395 --> 00:00:40,605 - Well, there is, but we take great joy in what we do. 13 00:00:41,005 --> 00:00:42,005 . 14 00:00:47,115 --> 00:00:49,485 - Well, what can you say to that? ? 15 00:00:49,905 --> 00:00:51,365 Uh, do what you love 16 00:00:51,365 --> 00:00:52,885 and you'll never work a day in your life. 17 00:00:52,975 --> 00:00:53,975 Right, 18 00:00:54,335 --> 00:00:55,335 - Right. 19 00:00:56,585 --> 00:00:58,805 - That's not at all what we're here for . 20 00:00:59,055 --> 00:01:01,885 We've already gone off the rails 30 seconds 21 00:01:02,185 --> 00:01:03,685 and a minute and whatever. 22 00:01:04,265 --> 00:01:05,685 Uh, this week what we're here 23 00:01:05,685 --> 00:01:08,965 to do is answer a question from a kister who's attending 24 00:01:08,965 --> 00:01:10,045 in-person kink events 25 00:01:10,065 --> 00:01:11,325 and trying to be part of the community, 26 00:01:11,325 --> 00:01:14,125 but struggles to create connections with other people 27 00:01:14,465 --> 00:01:15,845 to find a potential partner. 28 00:01:16,235 --> 00:01:17,885 Welcome to the Loving BDSM podcast. 29 00:01:18,065 --> 00:01:20,165 If you're new here, we help K Sisters like you have happy, 30 00:01:20,165 --> 00:01:21,445 healthy power exchange relationships. 31 00:01:21,785 --> 00:01:23,485 Add the podcast to your favorite podcast app 32 00:01:23,485 --> 00:01:24,645 so you never miss an episode. 33 00:01:24,945 --> 00:01:27,605 And if you'd like us to answer your question in a future one 34 00:01:27,605 --> 00:01:29,925 of these episodes, we have a contact page called Ask your 35 00:01:30,125 --> 00:01:32,925 Questions on our website@lovingbdsm.net. 36 00:01:33,025 --> 00:01:35,525 That's loving bdsm.net 37 00:01:35,945 --> 00:01:37,925 and in the show notes for this episode. 38 00:01:38,515 --> 00:01:40,245 Okay. Let's get right into the question. 39 00:01:40,865 --> 00:01:43,445 - All right. - I've been an active member of the community 40 00:01:43,445 --> 00:01:46,085 for about three years, and I've gone to munches rope classes 41 00:01:46,265 --> 00:01:48,045 and even Jams a rope free for all. 42 00:01:48,045 --> 00:01:49,485 Basically, I seem 43 00:01:49,485 --> 00:01:51,405 to start off overwhelmed when I get to a munch. 44 00:01:51,485 --> 00:01:53,485 I sometimes see people I know from other events, 45 00:01:53,545 --> 00:01:54,605 but when I try to open up 46 00:01:54,605 --> 00:01:56,605 and be social, it takes too much time. 47 00:01:56,885 --> 00:01:58,405 I feel like people have their group 48 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:00,285 and end up just joining a group 49 00:02:00,285 --> 00:02:02,605 and sort of isolating myself from the rest of the event. 50 00:02:03,185 --> 00:02:05,285 It seems I may have found my physical community, 51 00:02:05,285 --> 00:02:07,165 but when it comes to a long-term partner, I seem 52 00:02:07,165 --> 00:02:09,925 to be striking out While it seems others are getting there, 53 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:12,525 any tips on how to properly open up? 54 00:02:12,545 --> 00:02:15,125 And I think they said meant get close. 55 00:02:15,385 --> 00:02:17,565 - Mm-Hmm. . Hmm. 56 00:02:20,125 --> 00:02:22,005 I don't, wow. That's, that's kind of tough. 57 00:02:22,345 --> 00:02:24,365 - It is. But there's, there's a line in here 58 00:02:24,365 --> 00:02:25,925 that stood out to me from everything. 59 00:02:25,925 --> 00:02:26,885 Mm-Hmm. . And I think this could be 60 00:02:26,885 --> 00:02:27,805 part of the problem. 61 00:02:28,595 --> 00:02:30,485 - Okay. Um, - Where was it? 62 00:02:31,105 --> 00:02:34,845 Um, it takes too much time. 63 00:02:35,425 --> 00:02:36,805 - Mm. And, 64 00:02:36,865 --> 00:02:39,965 and see that's something that you can't get around. 65 00:02:40,115 --> 00:02:41,845 It's, it's gonna take time. Mm-Hmm. 66 00:02:41,985 --> 00:02:44,045 - And making friends with adults is one 67 00:02:44,045 --> 00:02:45,085 of the hardest things we 68 00:02:45,305 --> 00:02:46,485 - Do as human - Beings. 69 00:02:47,025 --> 00:02:48,685 It is. Uh, it's not like when you were a kid 70 00:02:48,685 --> 00:02:50,445 and your friend just happened to be Mm-Hmm. 71 00:02:50,485 --> 00:02:52,565 in the same class sitting next to you, 72 00:02:52,775 --> 00:02:54,645 liked the same color crayon you like, 73 00:02:54,865 --> 00:02:55,865 - You know? 74 00:02:55,865 --> 00:02:58,165 Yeah. And, and you know, I, I go back to something 75 00:02:58,805 --> 00:03:00,645 somebody told me when I was young. 76 00:03:01,585 --> 00:03:03,925 Um, you know, you're, you're, 77 00:03:03,925 --> 00:03:07,445 you're thinking about a potential partner, you know, down, 78 00:03:07,555 --> 00:03:09,765 down the road as part of the reason for doing this. 79 00:03:10,385 --> 00:03:12,925 And that's, that's well and good. 80 00:03:13,185 --> 00:03:14,605 And, you know, it's understandable 81 00:03:14,605 --> 00:03:17,805 because we all wanna meet our, our partner or partners, 82 00:03:17,805 --> 00:03:18,885 however it may be. 83 00:03:19,745 --> 00:03:22,645 And I, I think sometimes 84 00:03:23,425 --> 00:03:26,885 you get too focused on finding a partner. 85 00:03:27,145 --> 00:03:29,965 Mm-Hmm. . And, and you need to let go of that 86 00:03:30,025 --> 00:03:33,805 and step back and make friends in the community first. 87 00:03:33,905 --> 00:03:35,485 Mm-Hmm. . Alright. Mm-Hmm. 88 00:03:35,525 --> 00:03:39,045 build a, a, a friend base and, 89 00:03:39,065 --> 00:03:42,605 and you then from there, you never know what will happen. 90 00:03:43,055 --> 00:03:44,525 - Right. And I, I agree with you. 91 00:03:44,645 --> 00:03:46,725 I think that there's part of this, 92 00:03:46,895 --> 00:03:48,885 based on the actual question 93 00:03:48,885 --> 00:03:50,965 and how I'm sort of reading into it, is sort 94 00:03:50,965 --> 00:03:52,925 of this walking up to a group going, 95 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:54,365 okay, I've seen them around. 96 00:03:54,755 --> 00:03:56,605 This should be fine. I'll just join the conversation. 97 00:03:56,605 --> 00:03:57,605 Mm-Hmm. . And then having that moment 98 00:03:57,605 --> 00:04:00,165 where you feel awkward and are, do the people exist 99 00:04:00,185 --> 00:04:02,405 who can just seamlessly be part of the group? 100 00:04:02,625 --> 00:04:04,125 Yes. Mm-Hmm. I think more 101 00:04:04,125 --> 00:04:06,005 of us than not sure. 102 00:04:06,145 --> 00:04:07,165 Are just awkward about it. 103 00:04:07,265 --> 00:04:08,645 And I, I think it's okay 104 00:04:08,745 --> 00:04:12,605 to just have a conversation at an event with one person. 105 00:04:12,625 --> 00:04:14,445 Mm-Hmm. with two people to do 106 00:04:14,445 --> 00:04:16,045 what you call isolating yourself, 107 00:04:16,185 --> 00:04:18,685 but being with just one group for that event. 108 00:04:18,685 --> 00:04:22,005 Because the longer you are with the same people 109 00:04:23,005 --> 00:04:24,805 multiple times at multiple different events, 110 00:04:25,185 --> 00:04:27,045 the more you either realize these are your people. 111 00:04:27,045 --> 00:04:28,285 Mm-Hmm. . These are not your people. 112 00:04:28,505 --> 00:04:30,645 You might make a connection with a single person in the 113 00:04:30,645 --> 00:04:32,405 group, but that's the person who's happy 114 00:04:32,405 --> 00:04:33,645 to see you when you show up. 115 00:04:33,645 --> 00:04:35,165 Mm-Hmm. . But all of that takes 116 00:04:35,195 --> 00:04:36,195 - Time. 117 00:04:36,195 --> 00:04:36,765 Right. And, and you know what? 118 00:04:36,825 --> 00:04:39,685 You, you, you, you go with a group 119 00:04:40,105 --> 00:04:43,085 and you know, you spend the time with them 120 00:04:43,345 --> 00:04:45,405 and you may find out that they are not your people. 121 00:04:45,405 --> 00:04:46,485 Mm-Hmm. . And that's okay. 122 00:04:46,945 --> 00:04:50,885 You, you move on and, and you look for your people. 123 00:04:51,225 --> 00:04:53,245 - And I think there's something too that I think if you are 124 00:04:53,265 --> 00:04:55,045 not easily getting comfortable 125 00:04:55,515 --> 00:04:57,525 with the same people you happen to be around 126 00:04:57,855 --> 00:04:59,565 after multiple events, 127 00:05:00,165 --> 00:05:01,565 I don't think you're doing anything wrong. 128 00:05:01,565 --> 00:05:03,365 And I don't think they're necessarily doing anything wrong. 129 00:05:03,565 --> 00:05:04,925 I think the vibe might be off. Mm-Hmm. . 130 00:05:04,925 --> 00:05:08,645 And maybe it's time to do that sort of awkward mix, 131 00:05:09,085 --> 00:05:12,125 mingle dance of, okay, not these people, 132 00:05:12,345 --> 00:05:14,525 but I'll just wander off to this group. 133 00:05:14,625 --> 00:05:17,525 And I, like, I really suck at making friends. 134 00:05:17,745 --> 00:05:21,725 I'm not a, uh, an easily social person 135 00:05:22,745 --> 00:05:24,685 in person at, at actual events. 136 00:05:25,225 --> 00:05:30,045 Um, but what I have found for me over the time, over years 137 00:05:30,625 --> 00:05:32,205 is just being a good listener. 138 00:05:32,225 --> 00:05:33,965 People really, if they're ready 139 00:05:33,985 --> 00:05:35,325 to talk, they really want to talk. 140 00:05:35,395 --> 00:05:36,565 They're happy to talk about 141 00:05:36,565 --> 00:05:37,925 themselves if they can get started. 142 00:05:38,025 --> 00:05:40,285 Not all of us are like that, but for people who are, 143 00:05:40,505 --> 00:05:41,965 and you know who they're looking for, they're looking 144 00:05:41,965 --> 00:05:43,325 for somebody who will listen to them. 145 00:05:43,665 --> 00:05:45,845 And I have been drawn into conversations 146 00:05:46,025 --> 00:05:47,885 and into groups where people think, like, 147 00:05:47,885 --> 00:05:48,965 think I'm a great person. 148 00:05:49,065 --> 00:05:52,605 And I think I said three words. I, all I did was listen. 149 00:05:52,705 --> 00:05:54,165 So if you're feeling awkward, 150 00:05:54,505 --> 00:05:56,605 but there's somebody having a conversation there 151 00:05:56,605 --> 00:05:58,380 that you're kind of interested in, 152 00:05:58,505 --> 00:06:00,405 or there's a group where you're like, I kind 153 00:06:00,405 --> 00:06:01,325 of like their vibe, I 154 00:06:01,325 --> 00:06:02,445 kind of would like to know more about them. 155 00:06:02,445 --> 00:06:05,245 Mm-Hmm. , assuming it's not intrusive to do, 156 00:06:05,245 --> 00:06:07,565 like that can sometimes be hard to read. 157 00:06:07,585 --> 00:06:08,845 If it's a closed group 158 00:06:08,865 --> 00:06:11,285 and they're like shielding their bodies and it's not open 159 00:06:11,285 --> 00:06:12,325 and there's not a seat at the table 160 00:06:12,325 --> 00:06:14,005 or whatever, you know, maybe don't, 161 00:06:14,745 --> 00:06:16,605 you know, put yourself there. 162 00:06:16,705 --> 00:06:18,165 But if there's a seat at a table 163 00:06:18,905 --> 00:06:20,405 and somebody's having a conversation 164 00:06:20,405 --> 00:06:22,005 that you're remotely interested in, 165 00:06:22,005 --> 00:06:23,165 just ask if you can sit there 166 00:06:23,185 --> 00:06:24,325 and you don't have to do anything else. 167 00:06:24,505 --> 00:06:27,765 If you'll just listen sometimes that will get you in 168 00:06:27,795 --> 00:06:29,125 with a group. 169 00:06:29,345 --> 00:06:30,965 And sometimes that'll help you figure out if 170 00:06:30,965 --> 00:06:32,085 that's a group you vibe with. 171 00:06:33,025 --> 00:06:36,045 And you don't actually have to do a lot necessarily. 172 00:06:36,475 --> 00:06:37,805 - True. And you know what, 173 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:39,165 I'll let you in on a little secret. 174 00:06:39,945 --> 00:06:43,925 You know, I have been attending munches and, and workshops 175 00:06:43,985 --> 00:06:48,685 and various lifestyle, um, functions since the mid nineties. 176 00:06:49,105 --> 00:06:52,125 And there are times I feel awkward. 177 00:06:52,355 --> 00:06:54,125 - Yeah. I think, I think most of us do. 178 00:06:54,245 --> 00:06:57,245 I think every once in a while there's that, that extrovert 179 00:06:57,245 --> 00:06:59,365 that's also very confident and they just don't. 180 00:06:59,545 --> 00:07:01,445 But I think mm-Hmm. more often than not even 181 00:07:01,445 --> 00:07:03,525 the extroverts are gonna have days where like, okay, 182 00:07:03,635 --> 00:07:04,805 what am I even talking about? 183 00:07:04,995 --> 00:07:06,245 Does anybody even like me? 184 00:07:06,245 --> 00:07:07,565 What, what does anything, even me, 185 00:07:07,885 --> 00:07:09,925 I think we all have those moments. 186 00:07:10,035 --> 00:07:12,725 Sure. Some of us have them more often than not. 187 00:07:13,225 --> 00:07:15,925 Um, some of us just feel like we're awkward people. . 188 00:07:15,925 --> 00:07:19,645 There's also the thing I've noticed, um, where it's a, 189 00:07:20,155 --> 00:07:23,885 there's a word I want, continuity is not quite the, 190 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:26,405 the right word, but where you see the same people over 191 00:07:26,465 --> 00:07:29,045 and over again, it's a time thing 192 00:07:29,225 --> 00:07:30,845 and a sort of a numbers thing. 193 00:07:31,725 --> 00:07:34,245 I have, you know, come into contact 194 00:07:34,315 --> 00:07:37,405 with people very infrequently in our in-person community. 195 00:07:37,425 --> 00:07:38,925 And yet people are very kind to me. 196 00:07:38,925 --> 00:07:40,765 Part of it is 'cause they know drop 197 00:07:40,765 --> 00:07:42,045 browns don't, and they like him. 198 00:07:42,305 --> 00:07:44,525 And part of it is they've seen me often enough 199 00:07:44,525 --> 00:07:46,285 to have a comfort level with me. 200 00:07:46,745 --> 00:07:49,285 And so, you know, you talk about, you know, 201 00:07:49,285 --> 00:07:51,365 ending up joining a group and sort of isolating. 202 00:07:51,365 --> 00:07:53,685 But if you join that group often enough, again, 203 00:07:53,705 --> 00:07:56,805 if the vibes are right and they just see you often enough, 204 00:07:56,805 --> 00:07:59,125 people sort of start to associate you with these events. 205 00:07:59,125 --> 00:08:00,085 Mm-Hmm. . And like, oh, you're 206 00:08:00,085 --> 00:08:00,485 part of our group. 207 00:08:00,525 --> 00:08:02,205 I don't know much about you, but sure I'll, you know, 208 00:08:02,205 --> 00:08:03,325 you're here and I accept you. 209 00:08:03,335 --> 00:08:06,245 Right. And again, it goes back to it being a time thing. 210 00:08:06,385 --> 00:08:08,325 Mm-Hmm. . Um, the other thing I 211 00:08:08,325 --> 00:08:09,485 would consider Okay. 212 00:08:09,485 --> 00:08:12,645 As a way to maybe help you find people, friends. 213 00:08:12,795 --> 00:08:15,125 Like, I know you're looking for a long-term partner, 214 00:08:15,265 --> 00:08:17,245 but I'm with jb Please, please, 215 00:08:17,245 --> 00:08:18,325 please start with friendships. 216 00:08:18,515 --> 00:08:19,805 It's just, I think 217 00:08:19,905 --> 00:08:21,925 unless you're at an event where the whole point is 218 00:08:21,925 --> 00:08:23,325 to meet people Mm-Hmm. 219 00:08:23,365 --> 00:08:24,365 specifically 220 00:08:24,365 --> 00:08:26,325 for like the kink or dating scene. 221 00:08:26,595 --> 00:08:27,685 Just start with friends. 222 00:08:27,865 --> 00:08:29,405 But what you can do as somebody 223 00:08:29,405 --> 00:08:31,805 who has been in your community for three years, 224 00:08:31,865 --> 00:08:33,005 you're not new anymore. 225 00:08:33,185 --> 00:08:34,765 You might feel new . 226 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:37,485 You might not feel like you're in an 227 00:08:37,485 --> 00:08:38,805 in-row, but you're not new. 228 00:08:39,105 --> 00:08:40,485 So what you might be able to do, 229 00:08:40,955 --> 00:08:42,165 depending on your comfort level 230 00:08:42,345 --> 00:08:43,965 or how brave you're feeling that day, 231 00:08:44,585 --> 00:08:46,165 is when a new person shows up, 232 00:08:46,905 --> 00:08:48,565 you go introduce yourself to them. 233 00:08:48,705 --> 00:08:50,445 If you've gone to an event often enough 234 00:08:50,465 --> 00:08:52,645 and you're like, I have never seen this person in my life. 235 00:08:53,305 --> 00:08:54,325 Go introduce yourself. 236 00:08:54,665 --> 00:08:57,085 Ask, maybe don't assume, but just go, Hey, are you new here? 237 00:08:57,085 --> 00:09:00,765 Is this your first time? And if they, you know, are willing 238 00:09:00,765 --> 00:09:01,925 to engage in conversation 239 00:09:01,945 --> 00:09:04,005 and they're like, yeah, this is, I'm so nervous, 240 00:09:04,165 --> 00:09:06,285 I don't know, , you get to be that ambassador 241 00:09:06,545 --> 00:09:08,205 and you get to strike up the conversation. 242 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:10,685 True. True. And it might feel awkward at first if you're not 243 00:09:11,155 --> 00:09:12,445 calm, comfortable doing that. 244 00:09:12,625 --> 00:09:15,005 But that's a little bit of a practice thing. 245 00:09:15,005 --> 00:09:17,525 The more often you do it, the easier ish 246 00:09:17,585 --> 00:09:19,005 - It becomes like strengthening your muscle. Yeah. 247 00:09:19,015 --> 00:09:21,085 - Right. And then you're seeking people out 248 00:09:21,085 --> 00:09:22,245 and helping people feel welcome. 249 00:09:22,345 --> 00:09:24,965 And you might find a friend group in that Mm-Hmm. 250 00:09:25,005 --> 00:09:26,365 and all and you did the thing 251 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:28,525 that most newbies desperately need. 252 00:09:28,525 --> 00:09:30,405 They need somebody to come talk to them first. 253 00:09:31,505 --> 00:09:34,165 You know, I think you might have been better off if maybe 254 00:09:34,225 --> 00:09:36,165 you had had that experience in the beginning 255 00:09:36,305 --> 00:09:38,485 and had people come up to you often enough, 256 00:09:38,485 --> 00:09:40,205 consistently enough that you felt like, Hey, 257 00:09:40,205 --> 00:09:42,245 this is a person I know we're friendly. 258 00:09:42,435 --> 00:09:44,885 Even if we're not friends, I can always go talk to them. 259 00:09:45,135 --> 00:09:46,685 Right. Right. That's the kind of thing 260 00:09:46,685 --> 00:09:47,965 that builds those connections. 261 00:09:48,145 --> 00:09:50,605 And three years Yeah. 262 00:09:50,745 --> 00:09:51,845 You've definitely got more 263 00:09:51,845 --> 00:09:53,085 experience maybe than you realize. 264 00:09:53,425 --> 00:09:55,885 And you can be that person for somebody new 265 00:09:56,905 --> 00:09:59,285 and then you may have found a friend. 266 00:09:59,415 --> 00:10:01,245 Right. Do it often enough. Mm-Hmm. . 267 00:10:01,945 --> 00:10:05,285 So that's the, that's what comes to my mind. Yeah. Yeah. 268 00:10:05,555 --> 00:10:07,205 It's hard for me to answer a question 269 00:10:07,205 --> 00:10:08,285 like this, me personally. 270 00:10:08,445 --> 00:10:10,125 'cause I am so socially awkward. 271 00:10:10,445 --> 00:10:13,485 I am fine ish, uh, with a camera and a microphone 272 00:10:13,665 --> 00:10:15,605 and an internet connection, but a group of people, 273 00:10:16,205 --> 00:10:17,445 whatcha talking about. 274 00:10:17,445 --> 00:10:19,725 Yeah. But I know the things I appreciate. 275 00:10:19,925 --> 00:10:21,805 I know the things that I wasn't trying 276 00:10:21,805 --> 00:10:22,885 to do, but seem to work. 277 00:10:22,995 --> 00:10:25,845 That listening thing goes a long, long way. , 278 00:10:27,125 --> 00:10:29,125 - , - You don't even have to know what 279 00:10:29,125 --> 00:10:31,325 to say if you can get somebody else talking True. 280 00:10:31,465 --> 00:10:33,765 And just listen to them and you learn about them. 281 00:10:34,265 --> 00:10:36,405 And then you learn, is this a person I wanna be around 282 00:10:37,225 --> 00:10:38,925 and people like to be listened to. 283 00:10:39,035 --> 00:10:40,685 Sure. You know, they like to feel seen. 284 00:10:40,865 --> 00:10:42,445 And if you can do that for somebody else, 285 00:10:42,915 --> 00:10:44,525 then you start building that connection. 286 00:10:44,835 --> 00:10:46,765 True, true. But I think it goes back to, 287 00:10:46,985 --> 00:10:48,405 to the very be you gotta be patient. 288 00:10:48,405 --> 00:10:52,325 Yeah. And I know after three years, you know, 289 00:10:52,525 --> 00:10:53,525 I think there may, 290 00:10:54,005 --> 00:10:55,925 I would imagine there are people you know, 291 00:10:56,035 --> 00:10:57,405 that you've seen often enough. 292 00:10:57,405 --> 00:10:59,325 Maybe you just don't categorize them in the 293 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:00,645 friend group yet. 294 00:11:00,645 --> 00:11:02,765 Or the, if you're looking for a long-term partner, 295 00:11:02,985 --> 00:11:05,285 you're like, they're not partner people, that's fine. 296 00:11:05,285 --> 00:11:06,565 Are they friend people? Mm-Hmm. . 297 00:11:06,785 --> 00:11:08,725 Can they be people that you're friendly enough with 298 00:11:08,725 --> 00:11:10,165 that if you walk into a room, you can, 299 00:11:10,225 --> 00:11:11,165 you feel comfortable walking 300 00:11:11,165 --> 00:11:12,325 up and going, Hey, how you doing? 301 00:11:12,525 --> 00:11:13,765 Hadn't seen you in a while. Mm-Hmm. 302 00:11:13,805 --> 00:11:14,765 , do you mind if I sit here 303 00:11:14,765 --> 00:11:15,525 at this table with you? 304 00:11:15,585 --> 00:11:16,685 Or whatever. Right. 305 00:11:16,785 --> 00:11:17,605 And that's how those things 306 00:11:17,605 --> 00:11:18,685 kind of start. 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