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- You are listening to
the Loving BDSM podcast,

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episode 3 87.

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Kayla, the Lord's Here're,
the one, the only,

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the only person who can
have a discussion with me.

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And it sounds to the outsiders,

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like we're actually arguing
John Brownstone <laugh>.

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- It's that Italian in me,

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- I think.

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So it's also that, um,
I'm me <laugh> <laugh>.

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And once I feel safe with somebody,

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I'll let them know when
I don't agree with them.

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<laugh> <laugh>. Until then,
I will not, but yeah, yeah.

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Uh, no, we just recorded,
uh, Monday's, um, podcast

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episode and we didn't
disagree on anything,

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but there's a moment where I'm like, wow,

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we sound like we're
unhappy with what <laugh>.

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We really aren't. So if you get that vibe,

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just know we really aren't.

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I dunno what happened there.

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<laugh>, <laugh>, uh, that's
not what we're here for. No.

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Uh, in this, this week's
episode, this week, uh, we asked

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for your questions over at that handle

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that I will forever fucking hate.

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Um, if you're like, why
do you hate that handle?

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Check some of the
previous q and a episodes.

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'cause it invariably gets
asked and <laugh>, I hate it.

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But I'll tell you this
short, short, short story.

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The Instagram handle is hated

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because it is not our fucking name.

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And no, I can't change it. I
there's a whole story there.

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I'm not getting into it.
Anyway, anyway, it's,

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- Thank you, Mo let's move on.

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- It's hated it because it's not our name

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and No, I can't change it.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. Moving on.

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Welcome to the Loving BDSM podcast.

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<laugh>, this is your first
time listening. Yes. Yes.

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It's, it's often like this,
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Hopefully we haven't scared you away.

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<laugh>, if you're back for
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Loving BDSM is produced every Monday

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and Friday for your kinky
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To our kinky patrons over on Patreon,

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including our newest peeps,
we're able to do this.

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That came out weird,
including our newest peeps.

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We're able to do this weird
thing on the internet in large

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part because of our kinky patrons,

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and we are grateful for
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That's patreon.com/kayla lords,

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or use the link in the show notes.

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Okay. So before we get
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I just wanna do, uh, two things.

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One, a shameless plug for our Etsy shop,

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because I've been adding new stuff to it.

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Very proud of me. Um, added
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uh, coffee mugs.

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And these are the big
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I do not fuck with those little 11 ounce,

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like it's three sips of coffee
or hot chocolate or hot tea.

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No, we are a 15 ounce mug
entity over here. Okay.

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<laugh>. So we have mugs on our Etsy shop.

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I just added more planner sheets.

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Um, Patreon at the $10 and
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Um, patrons at lower levels get
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And the link is in the places,

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but if you're like, I do not
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for the link, if you just go to Etsy

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and search loving BDSM,
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Second, it's not meant to be
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Most of the questions we
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uh, DS, stuff like that.

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I think maybe something about
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We'll figure it out as we
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absolutely have us answer
questions about the kry,

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the kry.com JBS shop.

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Okay. <laugh> <laugh>.
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self-promotional, it fucking
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Okay. Disclaimer. Okay. Let's
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Uh, but I don't know, I don't know.

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I don't know if we'll be
fast or if we will not be.

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First question. How can a
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gap of someone the same
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So there's an age gap of someone.

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Is it that the age gap
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as the oldest child or
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One partner is the age
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oldest child, whichever way that's meant

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to go there is clearly Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative> an age gap that
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Yeah. So I, first of all, I would say

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submissive dumb it.

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The question should be how can a person,

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I don't think the role matters.

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Um, what are your initial thoughts?

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I have thoughts, but what
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- Um, I don't know that
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concern about our age gap. Sure.

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- It was 18 years for sure. For

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So this is not about
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We're gonna have, uh, relationship
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You were weirded out by the age gap

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to make sure there was longevity there?

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<affirmative>. But if you
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why would you have to dissuade me?

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I was like, sitting
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I was like, yeah, we're doing the thing.

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- You're right. And, um, you know, I,

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after we got to know each other

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didn't even really consider
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- No. I mean, when my anxiety is,

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> when
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the worry I have about the age gap is

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that you will leave this
earthly plane before me.

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Which I mean, odds are
good. Odds are good. Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative> Of course, I do
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most of us don't get past our sixties,

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so we kind of even out.

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Right. <laugh>, um, <laugh>.

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But when my anxiety is high

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and I can't just, it,
the worry won't shut off.

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My worry is always that I will lose you

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before I'm ready to lose you.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, we are
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'cause I'll start crying and then

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that'll be what I worry about tonight.

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Mm-Hmm. <laugh> <laugh>.

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Beyond that, I don't really
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I think it is just not a thing.

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My point to this question,
here are my thoughts.

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Let me pull it back up. 'cause I don't

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wanna misquote anything.

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Yeah. You can't make

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somebody get over a thing

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that maybe they're a
little weirded out about.

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They either choose to have
uncomfortable feelings

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and stay there until
maybe they, they Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative> time, I mean,
time after time. Yeah.

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And, and a little bit deeper
into the relationship.

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You Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
were fine with it.

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It stopped being a weird thing. Right.

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- And I, and I think that's,
that's absolutely the,

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the best point of that is that,
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magic bullet for that.

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- No. And a person gets
to have, this is one

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of those times where this is preference.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
a person gets to go, no,

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that's too big of a gap for me.

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Or that's too young of
a person for me. Yeah.

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Or that this just weirds me out a bit

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and I don't wanna do this.

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And so a person gets to decide that.

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If they are saying, okay,
this is weird to me,

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but I want to explore this relationship

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with you, then mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative> they're
acknowledging their weird feelings,

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but I don't wanna say weird.

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They're not weird. They're,

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they're acknowledging their
fears and, and saying,

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but here, let's find out what happens.

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Now what that might mean
is they go along this path

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and that never stops
being a problem for them.

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And then that's an incompatibility. Yeah.

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It could be that it
becomes normal to them.

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Um, either, you know, are
they worried about, um,

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pushback from strangers, from
family members, from friends?

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Right. Are they worried about,

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are they basing their discomfort on things

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that they have heard other
people say about age gaps?

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Like if there's a reason for

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the age, the, the discomfort

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that is not purely about this
just makes me uncomfortable.

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And it's more of a here
are my fears. Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative>, here are my worries. Yeah.

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Then maybe there's room

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for a conversation about
those fears and worries.

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And then it's just a matter of time. Yeah.

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But always, always, always
a person gets to go. Yeah.

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No, that's for me.

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Now, first of all, I can't imagine being

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with anybody younger than me.

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I'm just not usually built that way.

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They'd have, I mean, they'd have to come

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with some strong ass, do
energy, like strong <laugh>.

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They'd have to be one
of those old soul people

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to be younger than me and to appeal to me.

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That being said, when I think
about it in sort of the,

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there's a word I wanted

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and I can't think of it, um, abstract.

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Anybody who is close
to my child's age, that

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that's always gonna be too young.

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If I can do the math in my head

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and go, I could have birthed you

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for me, that, that's too young. That's,

241
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- That's your the boundary
that gets to my choice.

242
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That's a boundary for you. Yeah. Right.

243
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- And that's okay. That doesn't mean

244
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that I look at other people with age gaps

245
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that I would not engage in

246
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and go, oh, they're wrong. I just go, it's

247
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- Not for you. It's not

248
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- For me.

249
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Yeah. So, yeah.

250
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- And
- It's mostly time and comfort.

251
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If they're time and comfort, they're

252
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willing to try to work through it.

253
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- And, and I, and I think
a lot of what you have

254
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to think about too is,
you know, are, are both

255
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of you consenting adults?

256
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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative>, you know?

257
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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Do you
both consent to this? Right.

258
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And, you know, nobody is being

259
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hurt by this.

260
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And, and you have a
compatibility with your kink.

261
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You know, if you are looking
for something beyond the kink

262
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and, and there is a compatibility
outside of the kink,

263
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then you know, really
nothing wrong with it. Right.

264
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- I, I think it comes down to where's

265
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the discomfort coming from?

266
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You know, if it's just a note,
this is, this is too much

267
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for me, then that, that is what it is.

268
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If it's a, I'm uncertain about this,

269
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but I'm interested in
you, that's different.

270
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And that's time and trust.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

271
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But then the, the ultimate
decision can still be, uh, no,

272
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I still don't, I still
don't like this one.

273
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Yeah. And that's okay.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay.

274
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Next question. Uh, how to talk
to a partner about us stuff

275
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when they're having a tough time

276
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and then they go, I've been waiting,

277
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which makes me think they've been waiting

278
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to talk about the US stuff

279
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and the partner is having a hard time.

280
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Yeah. Um, what are your

281
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thoughts? Um, because we've been there.

282
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- I, I don't think there
is a good time. Never.

283
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You know, there, there, if you
wait for the perfect moment,

284
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that perfect moment will never appear.

285
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Or that perfect moment
will pass so quickly.

286
00:12:34,925 --> 00:12:36,605
- <laugh>. Right. <laugh>,
- You know.

287
00:12:37,795 --> 00:12:39,765
- Yeah. No, I, I think
there you have to look

288
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for the good enough moment <laugh>. Yeah.

289
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- You know, and, and, and you
just kind of need to sit down

290
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and, and talk it out.

291
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- But here's the thing. If,
if your partner is going

292
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through a tough time and they
acknowledge that they're going

293
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through a tough time, and you
can, you, you are like, yeah,

294
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I see this, this is a tough time.

295
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It's not that you never
talk about it, it's

296
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that likely you plan it a little
further in advance instead

297
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of jumping at the time.

298
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You're like, Ooh, this
could be the time. Mm-Hmm.

299
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<affirmative> that will
probably not do any good

300
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unless it's something that they are eager

301
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to talk to you about as well.

302
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And they're coming to you to go,

303
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Hey, I'm feeling good right now.

304
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Let's do this. If you're up
for it, that might happen.

305
00:13:17,975 --> 00:13:20,285
Great. If it does, most
likely though, <laugh>,

306
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you're gonna have to go,
Hey, I know you're going

307
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through a tough time,
but there's some stuff

308
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we need to talk about.

309
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And I've been waiting however
long you've been waiting,

310
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and maybe it's an ongoing issue.

311
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And they even did that whole thing.

312
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We will talk about it later.

313
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There's nothing wrong with going,

314
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and you said we would
talk about this later.

315
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Uh, let us, can we plan
a time this weekend?

316
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Your day off Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative> this evening,

317
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like enough in advance that
they don't maybe feel like it's,

318
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it's happening like in the next five

319
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minutes and they're unprepared.

320
00:13:49,965 --> 00:13:53,285
Yeah. But not so far in advance
that it's really easy to go,

321
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you know, oh, you know,

322
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something can come up
or get in the way of it.

323
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So a couple of days the
following weekend Mm-Hmm.

324
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<affirmative> like wherever
you're at, and just fucking plan

325
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the conversation and go, look, I know

326
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that this is a rough time for you,

327
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so maybe we don't do
the whole conversation,

328
00:14:07,745 --> 00:14:09,285
but I need 20 minutes.

329
00:14:09,765 --> 00:14:11,605
I need to deal with this one issue

330
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instead of maybe all of the

331
00:14:12,845 --> 00:14:13,845
- Issues.

332
00:14:13,845 --> 00:14:15,165
And, you know, what if, if
the other person is going

333
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through, through a rough time, you know,

334
00:14:17,085 --> 00:14:18,525
whether they're busy at work or, you know,

335
00:14:18,525 --> 00:14:23,205
other things are going on,
um, you know, make it so it,

336
00:14:23,275 --> 00:14:24,765
it's a little bit more relaxing.

337
00:14:24,825 --> 00:14:27,925
You know, do it over a, a
favorite dessert or Mm-Hmm.

338
00:14:27,965 --> 00:14:29,285
<affirmative>, you know, a meal

339
00:14:29,465 --> 00:14:30,885
or, or something like
that, you know? Right.

340
00:14:30,885 --> 00:14:32,005
- Go for a walk together. Yeah.

341
00:14:32,005 --> 00:14:36,645
Have time where you're
together in as stress free of

342
00:14:37,165 --> 00:14:38,285
a moment as possible.

343
00:14:38,285 --> 00:14:39,365
Right. So like, if you have,

344
00:14:39,425 --> 00:14:40,805
if you're raising children together,

345
00:14:41,155 --> 00:14:42,485
make sure it's not at a time when

346
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they're screaming in the background.

347
00:14:43,525 --> 00:14:45,805
Right. <laugh>. Yeah. Oh yeah.

348
00:14:46,745 --> 00:14:49,165
If you work like odd schedules

349
00:14:49,165 --> 00:14:51,885
and maybe you, your schedules
don't always line up.

350
00:14:52,435 --> 00:14:53,965
This might mean it takes
a little bit longer,

351
00:14:54,025 --> 00:14:56,845
but look for a time when
you will be together.

352
00:14:56,905 --> 00:15:00,645
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um,
but yeah, I, it is very,

353
00:15:00,875 --> 00:15:03,845
very easy to put off a
spontaneous conversation

354
00:15:03,845 --> 00:15:04,845
that you know needs to happen

355
00:15:04,995 --> 00:15:07,005
because you'll wait for the quote.

356
00:15:07,005 --> 00:15:08,645
Perfect time. And that never,

357
00:15:08,645 --> 00:15:09,925
like you said, that never exists.

358
00:15:09,945 --> 00:15:13,125
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> better
to just approach your person

359
00:15:13,265 --> 00:15:16,045
and go, Hey, we need, we need
to have this conversation.

360
00:15:16,825 --> 00:15:18,245
Remind them if it was something

361
00:15:18,245 --> 00:15:20,205
that's already been brought
up and then schedule it.

362
00:15:20,235 --> 00:15:23,605
Yeah. And that is, it's not
perfect, but it's better.

363
00:15:23,625 --> 00:15:26,245
You'll, you might even have to
reschedule a couple of times,

364
00:15:26,385 --> 00:15:28,845
but eventually you can get there, assuming

365
00:15:29,395 --> 00:15:30,885
that they're willing to do that with you.

366
00:15:31,185 --> 00:15:33,285
And if they're not willing
to do that with you, I,

367
00:15:33,365 --> 00:15:35,645
I feel like you got deeper
issues, is all I'm saying.

368
00:15:35,715 --> 00:15:37,285
True. True. Next question.

369
00:15:38,145 --> 00:15:40,285
If you could create your
own personal playroom,

370
00:15:40,285 --> 00:15:42,325
would JB be able to build the furniture?

371
00:15:43,345 --> 00:15:46,485
- Um, I think I would.

372
00:15:47,305 --> 00:15:49,925
- Do you anticipate, like
we've talked about, um, a St.

373
00:15:49,925 --> 00:15:51,605
Andrew's cross a spanking bench Mm-Hmm.

374
00:15:51,645 --> 00:15:53,485
<affirmative> of which you can
get plans for those things on

375
00:15:53,665 --> 00:15:54,685
how you can purchase plans, correct?

376
00:15:54,685 --> 00:15:56,245
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
do you feel based on

377
00:15:56,245 --> 00:15:58,645
what you know about those
things, that you have the tools

378
00:15:59,305 --> 00:16:01,045
or would it require a new tool?

379
00:16:03,565 --> 00:16:04,845
- I think I got what it takes.

380
00:16:05,365 --> 00:16:07,125
- I know you do <laugh>. I know you do.

381
00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:12,285
That has never stopped you
from wanting a new tool. Sorry.

382
00:16:13,425 --> 00:16:15,845
- You know, didn't I,
didn't I send you that, um,

383
00:16:16,695 --> 00:16:19,925
thing about, about the
tools, about how you,

384
00:16:20,025 --> 00:16:21,325
you buy a tool Yes.

385
00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:24,285
And you use it to do a job
tool math. Yeah. Yeah. Tool

386
00:16:24,285 --> 00:16:25,285
- Math.

387
00:16:25,285 --> 00:16:27,365
Right. And eventually it's,
so it's invaluable because

388
00:16:27,425 --> 00:16:28,685
- It, it is invaluable. Saved

389
00:16:28,685 --> 00:16:29,565
- You tens of thousands,
- Save

390
00:16:29,565 --> 00:16:30,765
saves you tens of thousands dollars.

391
00:16:30,985 --> 00:16:34,445
And with that sa money that
you saved, you buy more tools.

392
00:16:35,055 --> 00:16:37,925
- Right. But we are, we are
broke. Broke, so no, we do not

393
00:16:37,925 --> 00:16:38,525
- Do that. <laugh>

394
00:16:39,505 --> 00:16:40,505
- No.

395
00:16:40,505 --> 00:16:41,885
We can't even put our thermostat on the

396
00:16:41,885 --> 00:16:42,965
temperature we want it on,

397
00:16:43,065 --> 00:16:44,065
- On.

398
00:16:44,065 --> 00:16:44,885
I know, right? Okay. Yeah. No, no,

399
00:16:45,345 --> 00:16:46,405
- I'm with it. But with what you currently

400
00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:48,485
- Have, but anyway, but
with what I currently have,

401
00:16:48,725 --> 00:16:50,965
I would feel comfortable to say yes.

402
00:16:51,115 --> 00:16:53,485
- Okay. With the skills
you have as well. Yes.

403
00:16:53,505 --> 00:16:54,965
You feel like you've
got what you need. Yes.

404
00:16:54,965 --> 00:16:59,565
You could do it. Yes. There you
go. Okay. This one, <laugh>.

405
00:17:00,065 --> 00:17:03,325
- No, - This question is
sort of a big broad question.

406
00:17:03,465 --> 00:17:06,685
So I'm, we will not be able
to give a complete answer

407
00:17:06,685 --> 00:17:08,165
because that would be a whole episode,

408
00:17:08,225 --> 00:17:10,085
but we will do our best.

409
00:17:10,765 --> 00:17:14,485
I have just discovered at
45 female that I'm into BDSM

410
00:17:14,485 --> 00:17:15,925
and definitely a service sub.

411
00:17:16,065 --> 00:17:17,245
How do I get started?

412
00:17:19,465 --> 00:17:22,325
- Say that again.
- I'm 45 female Uhhuh <affirmative>,

413
00:17:22,325 --> 00:17:25,845
and I'm just figured out I'm
a service sub and into BDSM.

414
00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:27,125
How do I get started?

415
00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:32,085
- Um, find a munch or a
community and, and you

416
00:17:32,085 --> 00:17:34,285
- Always wanna send people
out into the wild, oh,

417
00:17:35,025 --> 00:17:38,085
you just learned what
letters BDSM stand for, go

418
00:17:38,085 --> 00:17:40,085
to a man, <laugh>, and I'm over here.

419
00:17:40,085 --> 00:17:42,685
Like, I want you to find
some videos, a podcast,

420
00:17:43,925 --> 00:17:45,205
a blog, a book.

421
00:17:45,445 --> 00:17:47,965
I would like you to
educate yourself, <laugh>.

422
00:17:49,465 --> 00:17:51,045
So basically you could
do both of those things

423
00:17:51,105 --> 00:17:52,845
or pick the one that actually
fits your personality.

424
00:17:52,875 --> 00:17:54,365
Some people are extroverts, so like,

425
00:17:54,365 --> 00:17:55,685
you're telling me there are meetups

426
00:17:55,685 --> 00:17:58,365
and I could go both eat a delicious meal

427
00:17:58,785 --> 00:17:59,885
and meet new people.

428
00:17:59,885 --> 00:18:00,925
They're they're there

429
00:18:00,925 --> 00:18:01,925
- For it.

430
00:18:01,925 --> 00:18:02,925
And, and discuss kinky things. They're

431
00:18:02,925 --> 00:18:03,925
- There for it.

432
00:18:03,925 --> 00:18:04,645
Yeah. That's a great, that's a great

433
00:18:04,645 --> 00:18:05,685
way to get started, right?

434
00:18:06,105 --> 00:18:08,605
For the rest of us, normal human beings

435
00:18:08,705 --> 00:18:09,925
who are like, hell no.

436
00:18:10,305 --> 00:18:13,605
- Uh, wait, I don't, I
think you have that flipped

437
00:18:14,925 --> 00:18:15,925
- <laugh>.

438
00:18:15,925 --> 00:18:19,925
Anyway, my advice for the
person who's not gonna run out

439
00:18:19,925 --> 00:18:23,285
to a munch on their first day in k uh, is

440
00:18:23,305 --> 00:18:25,125
to keep learning as much as you can.

441
00:18:25,265 --> 00:18:27,485
And learning can look like
a lot of different things.

442
00:18:27,805 --> 00:18:30,965
I mean, it is okay, you
know, you're a service sub.

443
00:18:30,965 --> 00:18:32,685
Well, maybe you learn more about what

444
00:18:32,685 --> 00:18:34,205
that can look like and what that can mean.

445
00:18:34,745 --> 00:18:39,645
Um, there is, uh, just
learning what BDSM means.

446
00:18:39,665 --> 00:18:42,885
Oh, here's, here's a
shameless self-promotion.

447
00:18:43,325 --> 00:18:45,245
<laugh> Shameless.

448
00:18:45,865 --> 00:18:49,285
We have a workbook on our Etsy
shop called 30 Days of Ds.

449
00:18:49,755 --> 00:18:51,525
It's the very first thing we ever made.

450
00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:55,765
And, um, it's been refined
and improved over the years.

451
00:18:55,765 --> 00:18:58,565
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And
it is designed specifically

452
00:18:58,565 --> 00:18:59,565
for the newbie who's like,

453
00:18:59,645 --> 00:19:00,965
I don't even know what I don't know.

454
00:19:01,055 --> 00:19:04,645
Right. Because yeah, when
you realize you're kinky

455
00:19:04,645 --> 00:19:06,525
and you're like, oh,
there's this entire world

456
00:19:06,525 --> 00:19:07,965
of BDSM trying

457
00:19:07,965 --> 00:19:11,365
to learn about it can be like
drinking from a fire hose.

458
00:19:11,365 --> 00:19:13,405
Like it's just too much
coming at you all at once

459
00:19:13,675 --> 00:19:14,805
with 30 days of Ds.

460
00:19:14,805 --> 00:19:16,685
We broke it up into 30 days.

461
00:19:16,745 --> 00:19:17,925
But it could take as long as it takes

462
00:19:18,075 --> 00:19:19,725
with prompts and concepts.

463
00:19:19,865 --> 00:19:22,805
You can piece by piece start figuring out

464
00:19:22,805 --> 00:19:24,165
what these different concepts are

465
00:19:24,465 --> 00:19:25,605
and how you feel about them.

466
00:19:26,025 --> 00:19:27,765
So that's one way. Find
something like that.

467
00:19:28,305 --> 00:19:32,085
Um, as somebody who's
submissive is this question, um,

468
00:19:32,595 --> 00:19:35,085
indicates, uh, there's
sites like Submissive Guide,

469
00:19:35,085 --> 00:19:36,125
which is a great one, right.

470
00:19:36,605 --> 00:19:37,645
Specifically for submissives.

471
00:19:38,025 --> 00:19:41,005
Um, there's the new bottoming
book, which isn't just

472
00:19:41,005 --> 00:19:43,165
for submissives, but there's
definitely plenty there.

473
00:19:43,745 --> 00:19:46,245
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. If, if
you know you're not great at

474
00:19:46,405 --> 00:19:48,245
communication, go ahead
and just get tongue

475
00:19:48,245 --> 00:19:50,245
tied by Stella Harris. Um,

476
00:19:51,075 --> 00:19:52,075
- Yeah.

477
00:19:52,075 --> 00:19:52,085
And improve your

478
00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:53,565
communication skills, an
excellent, excellent book.

479
00:19:53,725 --> 00:19:55,045
- 'cause you're gonna need
'em. Somebody said in the live

480
00:19:55,045 --> 00:19:58,005
chat, ignore FetLife dom dms.

481
00:19:58,105 --> 00:20:00,205
Yep. Yep. You can go on fe life.

482
00:20:00,205 --> 00:20:01,765
There's nothing wrong with
that. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

483
00:20:01,765 --> 00:20:05,285
Um, but you're probably
gonna wanna ignore most

484
00:20:05,425 --> 00:20:07,205
of the unsolicited dms

485
00:20:07,225 --> 00:20:08,225
- You get.

486
00:20:08,225 --> 00:20:12,405
Right. Fe fe life can be a,

487
00:20:12,605 --> 00:20:14,805
a double-edged sword of sorts.

488
00:20:14,805 --> 00:20:19,005
Okay. There is a lot of great
information on there, um,

489
00:20:19,625 --> 00:20:22,525
groups where you can learn
things about, you know,

490
00:20:23,015 --> 00:20:24,165
being a submissive

491
00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:26,885
or, you know, different,
different aspects of,

492
00:20:26,945 --> 00:20:28,005
of being a mask is,

493
00:20:28,145 --> 00:20:29,605
and anything you wanna learn about,

494
00:20:29,625 --> 00:20:31,365
you can pretty much find it on FetLife.

495
00:20:31,745 --> 00:20:36,525
Um, the other side to that,
um, it is a social media site,

496
00:20:36,905 --> 00:20:40,445
so you're going to get all the kaka

497
00:20:40,445 --> 00:20:41,725
that comes along with that.

498
00:20:41,855 --> 00:20:43,965
- Right. And, and it's
gonna be more nudity

499
00:20:43,965 --> 00:20:47,765
because at least on the,
the non-sexual social media,

500
00:20:47,835 --> 00:20:49,325
they technically don't allow it.

501
00:20:49,325 --> 00:20:51,605
Mostly except for Twitter.
Because Twitter is Twitter.

502
00:20:51,665 --> 00:20:53,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
And so you might, you,

503
00:20:53,305 --> 00:20:56,605
you just see less of it on
like a Facebook or an Instagram

504
00:20:56,625 --> 00:20:58,925
or wherever, but on
fat, you are guaranteed

505
00:20:59,065 --> 00:21:00,845
to see all of the body parts.

506
00:21:00,845 --> 00:21:03,085
Yeah. Um, it's, and that's fine.

507
00:21:03,085 --> 00:21:04,645
People can do what they want
on their own page. Mm-Hmm.

508
00:21:04,685 --> 00:21:06,725
<affirmative> it's more of the, you know,

509
00:21:07,465 --> 00:21:09,885
get somebody sliding into
your dms and being grotesque.

510
00:21:09,995 --> 00:21:14,125
- Yeah. So, you know,
you, you, while FetLife in

511
00:21:14,125 --> 00:21:18,965
and of itself is a, a, a good
tool to use, um, you know,

512
00:21:18,985 --> 00:21:22,925
you also have to learn about block button

513
00:21:23,105 --> 00:21:24,805
and, you know, ignoring folks

514
00:21:25,105 --> 00:21:27,325
- And on every social media channel.

515
00:21:27,325 --> 00:21:32,085
Yeah. Just, yeah. Um, okay. Next question.

516
00:21:32,085 --> 00:21:34,045
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, do you guys

517
00:21:34,045 --> 00:21:35,205
ever wish you were vanilla?

518
00:21:37,685 --> 00:21:40,125
I live the vanilla life and I
have completely rejected it.

519
00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:43,445
No, no, no. I'm so grateful. No. That

520
00:21:43,465 --> 00:21:44,465
- I'm not living, living that life.

521
00:21:44,465 --> 00:21:45,805
No. I, I, I had to think about it

522
00:21:46,145 --> 00:21:47,485
for a second there, but, you know.

523
00:21:47,715 --> 00:21:49,525
Yeah. No. Mm-Hmm. Nom,

524
00:21:49,525 --> 00:21:50,525
- Nope.

525
00:21:50,525 --> 00:21:53,445
I am more fulfilled as a human being.

526
00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:58,525
I have a better relationship
than I've ever had ever, uh,

527
00:21:58,545 --> 00:22:01,845
my communication skills have
just gotten fucking better.

528
00:22:02,425 --> 00:22:06,125
Um, I know more about myself
than I ever thought. Mm-Hmm.

529
00:22:06,165 --> 00:22:08,605
<affirmative> possible. Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative>. I feel more

530
00:22:08,745 --> 00:22:10,525
myself than I ever thought possible.

531
00:22:10,635 --> 00:22:13,685
It's all, it's all because
I went, oh, yeah, I'm kinky,

532
00:22:13,685 --> 00:22:14,965
and here's, let's go
figure out what that means.

533
00:22:15,505 --> 00:22:18,925
Um, and then to be in a
relationship with somebody who is my

534
00:22:19,715 --> 00:22:21,405
complimentary counterpart.

535
00:22:22,185 --> 00:22:25,605
And even when it's rough,
it's still fucking worth it.

536
00:22:25,705 --> 00:22:26,765
And, you know, yeah.

537
00:22:26,955 --> 00:22:29,685
It's still better than not being together

538
00:22:29,905 --> 00:22:31,725
and not being kinky, so. Yeah. Yeah.

539
00:22:32,065 --> 00:22:34,325
- And, and you know, it's
funny, silent mention,

540
00:22:34,325 --> 00:22:37,485
you're not safe, uh, from
dms, you know, <affirmative>

541
00:22:39,465 --> 00:22:42,605
on just on fe, you know,
instant Tumblr, all of them.

542
00:22:42,865 --> 00:22:44,845
All, all of them. Uh, you know, my

543
00:22:44,845 --> 00:22:46,245
- Twitter dms are grotesque as well.

544
00:22:46,425 --> 00:22:50,805
- If, if you, you know, are
on one of those spaces and,

545
00:22:50,905 --> 00:22:54,685
and you identify, you know,
as in either way, shape

546
00:22:54,685 --> 00:22:58,325
or form as, as kinky, um,
you're gonna get messages.

547
00:22:58,905 --> 00:23:00,805
You would not believe the amount

548
00:23:00,805 --> 00:23:05,765
of messages I get on Instagram
asking me to submit <laugh>

549
00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:07,625
- So adorable.

550
00:23:07,625 --> 00:23:09,285
Yeah. It's like they
don't read bios, right.

551
00:23:09,565 --> 00:23:11,565
- <laugh>? Um,
- Yeah. Okay. Next question.

552
00:23:12,705 --> 00:23:15,125
How do you budget for kink

553
00:23:15,305 --> 00:23:19,605
or cost save for quality
products and items?

554
00:23:19,715 --> 00:23:21,005
Leather especially Mm-Hmm.

555
00:23:21,045 --> 00:23:22,085
<affirmative> Like how
do you budget for your,

556
00:23:22,115 --> 00:23:25,405
your kink stuff, your, um,
products, your toys, your,

557
00:23:26,475 --> 00:23:27,475
- Just like anything else.

558
00:23:27,475 --> 00:23:29,525
Do just make our own <laugh>.
Well, well, we, yeah.

559
00:23:29,545 --> 00:23:32,085
For us, for the most part, we
make, make our own on a lot

560
00:23:32,085 --> 00:23:35,845
of the things, but, um, it's,

561
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:39,285
it's no different than, uh, budgeting for

562
00:23:41,025 --> 00:23:44,645
say like, um, you know,
for a coffee allowance.

563
00:23:45,075 --> 00:23:47,205
Sure. You know, for the, for the month.

564
00:23:47,705 --> 00:23:52,405
Um, you know, you, you take
it, it's like anything else.

565
00:23:52,545 --> 00:23:55,965
You, you see something you
want, um, you know, yes.

566
00:23:55,965 --> 00:23:58,125
Quality toys are not cheap. No.

567
00:23:58,145 --> 00:24:01,845
You know, and, and you maybe
have a swear jar. You know?

568
00:24:01,985 --> 00:24:04,445
My gosh, if, if we had a swear
jar in this house every time

569
00:24:04,445 --> 00:24:06,365
this one dropped an f-bomb, we,

570
00:24:06,385 --> 00:24:08,725
we could buy more shit than we don't have

571
00:24:08,825 --> 00:24:11,685
- Enough money to cover a swear jar

572
00:24:13,245 --> 00:24:14,245
- <laugh>.

573
00:24:14,315 --> 00:24:15,365
- Yeah. If we had a swear jar,

574
00:24:15,365 --> 00:24:17,405
maybe I could set the
thermostat 72 year round

575
00:24:17,755 --> 00:24:18,765
just saying <laugh>.

576
00:24:20,065 --> 00:24:24,525
- But yeah, I, I mean, it's
just a matter of, you know, kind

577
00:24:24,525 --> 00:24:25,725
of factoring into your budget.

578
00:24:26,015 --> 00:24:27,405
- Right? And it's, it's a matter

579
00:24:27,405 --> 00:24:29,525
of figuring out what's
important to you in terms of

580
00:24:29,715 --> 00:24:30,925
what is it you really want.

581
00:24:30,925 --> 00:24:33,045
Right. And what you
can afford. So, Mm-Hmm.

582
00:24:33,085 --> 00:24:34,045
<affirmative> gonna
have to look at your own

583
00:24:34,205 --> 00:24:34,525
personal budget.

584
00:24:34,525 --> 00:24:36,325
What's your income? What
are your expenses? Right.

585
00:24:36,665 --> 00:24:39,045
Is this something that
you save up for long term?

586
00:24:40,105 --> 00:24:43,285
That's one thing. Um,
I, I recognize anybody

587
00:24:43,285 --> 00:24:44,885
who cringed at that
because they're impatient.

588
00:24:45,005 --> 00:24:48,645
I too, 'em impatient. I have
a, and I can't always do it,

589
00:24:49,105 --> 00:24:51,405
but I have a little auto savings thing.

590
00:24:51,435 --> 00:24:53,325
It's 10 bucks a month,
it just goes over there.

591
00:24:53,395 --> 00:24:54,805
What am I gonna do with it? I don't know.

592
00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,525
It's just happening. It's
just going over there.

593
00:24:57,145 --> 00:25:00,365
And if I think about it too
hard, I will be very impatient.

594
00:25:00,465 --> 00:25:03,165
$10 each month is not a lot. Right? Yeah.

595
00:25:03,385 --> 00:25:05,445
Um, maybe for other
people it's $10 in a week.

596
00:25:05,445 --> 00:25:06,485
It's a hundred dollars in a month,

597
00:25:06,545 --> 00:25:08,565
you just put it to the side somewhere.

598
00:25:08,625 --> 00:25:11,885
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> do
an auto, uh, transfer,

599
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:13,125
whether it's straight from a paycheck

600
00:25:13,125 --> 00:25:14,165
or straight from a bank account.

601
00:25:14,165 --> 00:25:15,405
Right. So you don't really
have to think about it.

602
00:25:16,465 --> 00:25:18,965
Um, but, and then it depends on

603
00:25:18,965 --> 00:25:21,005
what it is you're trying to purchase.

604
00:25:21,105 --> 00:25:25,445
If sometimes we will always advocate for,

605
00:25:26,015 --> 00:25:27,485
spend a little extra, get something

606
00:25:27,485 --> 00:25:29,125
that's designed to last long term.

607
00:25:29,125 --> 00:25:31,165
However, we are also broke bitches.

608
00:25:31,165 --> 00:25:33,485
So sometimes you just buy
what you can fucking afford

609
00:25:34,385 --> 00:25:37,965
is the thing you want
available at a lower cost.

610
00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:41,165
And is the fact that that
might be lower quality,

611
00:25:41,225 --> 00:25:42,245
it might not last as long.

612
00:25:42,315 --> 00:25:44,765
Okay. With you. Like if
something could last a couple

613
00:25:44,765 --> 00:25:48,925
of years and it'd be $20, get
the fucking thing for $20.

614
00:25:48,985 --> 00:25:50,765
If you have it and the
thing you really want

615
00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:54,485
that's gonna last your lifetime
is 200, save up for it.

616
00:25:54,495 --> 00:25:58,565
Right. Um, I am not above,
we don't do it anymore.

617
00:25:58,885 --> 00:26:01,925
'cause <laugh> we're people with

618
00:26:02,435 --> 00:26:04,005
kids in a mortgage and all of that.

619
00:26:04,105 --> 00:26:07,445
But when, if, if you
happen to get a tax refund,

620
00:26:07,945 --> 00:26:09,885
we do household stuff,
now we're those people.

621
00:26:09,905 --> 00:26:12,205
But sometimes that's the
time you go, Ooh, I can pull

622
00:26:12,955 --> 00:26:15,685
some money from that and
I can get some kink toys

623
00:26:15,685 --> 00:26:18,605
and this is my big purchase and
my big splurge for the year.

624
00:26:18,615 --> 00:26:20,205
Maybe you get a bonus at work. Mm-Hmm.

625
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,765
<affirmative> corporations
still give bonuses, I dunno,

626
00:26:23,325 --> 00:26:24,445
<laugh>, but maybe you got one.

627
00:26:24,445 --> 00:26:26,405
Right? Like a little bit of
extra money fell in your lap

628
00:26:26,405 --> 00:26:28,795
and you're like, what do I
do with it if you don't have

629
00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:30,635
to put tires on your car, <laugh>.

630
00:26:30,965 --> 00:26:32,915
- Right.
- Maybe you can buy the kink toy.

631
00:26:32,915 --> 00:26:33,955
But it's, no, it's like,

632
00:26:34,425 --> 00:26:36,435
it's no different than
any other expenditure.

633
00:26:36,505 --> 00:26:39,555
It's just, I think it feels
a little bit more fraught

634
00:26:39,555 --> 00:26:42,555
because it's tied to our
pleasure and our desires

635
00:26:42,655 --> 00:26:46,725
and our kinks and our,
our, uh, the wanting

636
00:26:46,785 --> 00:26:48,565
to do the thing yesterday.

637
00:26:48,825 --> 00:26:51,845
Why can't I have the toy
already? Yeah. Kind of feeling.

638
00:26:52,985 --> 00:26:55,885
So, um, and yeah.

639
00:26:55,985 --> 00:26:58,925
As, um, uh, ra RA's mentioning,

640
00:26:58,935 --> 00:27:01,285
she's teaching a class on perverts Mm-Hmm.

641
00:27:01,325 --> 00:27:03,845
<affirmative> at the end
of March. Perverts are also

642
00:27:04,445 --> 00:27:06,805
a great alternative if
there is no budget's.

643
00:27:06,805 --> 00:27:09,085
True. Or while that's
save up for the thing that

644
00:27:09,085 --> 00:27:10,565
- You want in the meantime. Yeah. Right,

645
00:27:10,565 --> 00:27:11,565
- Right, right.

646
00:27:11,825 --> 00:27:16,365
So, okay. Uh, next question. Mm-Hmm.

647
00:27:16,385 --> 00:27:19,885
How do you fulfill your
sub duties when sick?

648
00:27:20,475 --> 00:27:21,645
They're recovering from covid,

649
00:27:21,705 --> 00:27:22,765
so that's where their question's gonna go.

650
00:27:22,795 --> 00:27:25,765
Okay. Uh, I fucking don't, it
depends on what kind of sick.

651
00:27:25,765 --> 00:27:29,205
Yeah. If I'm the sniffly, just
kind of vaguely sort of, uh,

652
00:27:29,585 --> 00:27:30,845
I'm gonna do as much as I can,

653
00:27:31,185 --> 00:27:33,005
but I'm gonna let JB know how I feel.

654
00:27:33,005 --> 00:27:34,765
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, I,
if I don't think I can do

655
00:27:34,765 --> 00:27:36,925
something, even if I'm doing
other things, I'm gonna say,

656
00:27:36,945 --> 00:27:38,565
Hey, I don't think I can do this.

657
00:27:39,465 --> 00:27:40,485
How do you feel about that?

658
00:27:41,105 --> 00:27:42,885
JB being jb he's gonna go don't,

659
00:27:43,385 --> 00:27:45,765
he might even if I'm just
a little sniffly, tell me

660
00:27:45,765 --> 00:27:47,565
to sit my ass down and don't worry about

661
00:27:47,805 --> 00:27:48,805
- Anything.

662
00:27:48,805 --> 00:27:49,245
And, and that, yeah.

663
00:27:49,245 --> 00:27:51,565
There, there, there have
been times I've told her

664
00:27:51,625 --> 00:27:53,605
to sit her ass down not to move.

665
00:27:53,855 --> 00:27:56,645
Right. And, and she's done
until she's better. But

666
00:27:56,645 --> 00:27:59,565
- That's the thing, if I'm
sick, especially if I'm the kind

667
00:27:59,565 --> 00:28:01,885
of sick where I don't wanna
move or I can't Mm-Hmm.

668
00:28:01,925 --> 00:28:03,565
<affirmative>, I don't
have energy, or I have

669
00:28:03,565 --> 00:28:06,365
to use all the energy I have
just to like, do the things

670
00:28:06,365 --> 00:28:10,165
that I have zero option on
raising a kid, you know,

671
00:28:10,165 --> 00:28:11,965
doing a work thing, whatever, whatever.

672
00:28:12,715 --> 00:28:17,365
Then I'm not worried about
doing my submissive stuff.

673
00:28:17,465 --> 00:28:19,645
And I have a partner who
is not worried about me

674
00:28:19,815 --> 00:28:21,085
doing my submissive stuff.

675
00:28:21,225 --> 00:28:24,485
No. Um, we, we are, we are
not doing rocket science

676
00:28:24,545 --> 00:28:26,005
or brain surgery over here.

677
00:28:26,005 --> 00:28:29,205
There is not a fucking thing
I do as a submissive that is

678
00:28:29,225 --> 00:28:31,205
so important that I can't,

679
00:28:31,595 --> 00:28:33,525
that it's impossible
for me to take a break.

680
00:28:33,575 --> 00:28:35,165
Right. We just, it's, it's

681
00:28:35,345 --> 00:28:37,165
- Not, - You know, it's
serious, but it's not that

682
00:28:37,165 --> 00:28:38,165
- Serious.

683
00:28:38,165 --> 00:28:38,845
I, I, I look at it this way

684
00:28:39,225 --> 00:28:42,925
and, you know, I can understand your,

685
00:28:42,995 --> 00:28:46,485
your feelings about, you
know, being submissive

686
00:28:46,485 --> 00:28:48,165
and wanting to do what you do.

687
00:28:48,265 --> 00:28:51,325
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> as a
submissive for your person.

688
00:28:52,325 --> 00:28:54,605
I know that because I see
what this one right here,

689
00:28:54,605 --> 00:28:57,445
sitting next to me,
<laugh> does, you know?

690
00:28:57,865 --> 00:29:00,805
But if she is not feeling well,

691
00:29:01,545 --> 00:29:04,325
the last thing I wanna do is have her try

692
00:29:04,325 --> 00:29:06,525
to do all the things she's supposed to do.

693
00:29:07,075 --> 00:29:09,845
Because one, it's not
gonna be good for her.

694
00:29:10,425 --> 00:29:12,005
I'm gonna take away
from her getting better

695
00:29:12,425 --> 00:29:14,525
and two, not feeling good like that.

696
00:29:15,125 --> 00:29:18,875
I know she's not gonna perform
up to a hundred percent

697
00:29:19,505 --> 00:29:21,875
want her to get better, fully better so

698
00:29:21,875 --> 00:29:23,235
that she can do all the things

699
00:29:23,415 --> 00:29:25,435
and not be miserable doing them. Right.

700
00:29:25,435 --> 00:29:28,195
- And I'm gonna give serious
side eye to any Mr out there

701
00:29:28,215 --> 00:29:31,515
who has a dominant partner
who is not gonna understand

702
00:29:31,585 --> 00:29:32,595
that you're, you're sick

703
00:29:32,655 --> 00:29:35,235
and you what you need is
rest and to get better.

704
00:29:35,255 --> 00:29:38,435
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And
your, your tasks, your duties,

705
00:29:38,615 --> 00:29:39,955
the things that you've agreed to do,

706
00:29:39,955 --> 00:29:41,645
sometimes just have to, to right.

707
00:29:41,815 --> 00:29:43,045
Pause for a beat. Yep.

708
00:29:43,345 --> 00:29:47,405
Um, because if I'm not allowed

709
00:29:47,405 --> 00:29:48,925
to get better, then I don't get better.

710
00:29:49,045 --> 00:29:51,125
I actually get worse. And then that's

711
00:29:51,125 --> 00:29:52,725
that much longer that I can't Right.

712
00:29:52,735 --> 00:29:54,165
Fully do the things that I would

713
00:29:54,165 --> 00:29:55,245
like to do that I've agreed to do.

714
00:29:56,745 --> 00:30:01,125
So yeah. That's, that's that
on that. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

715
00:30:01,125 --> 00:30:03,125
Yeah. Uh, the next question, Kayla,

716
00:30:03,225 --> 00:30:05,685
how do you balance being a
mom living your daily life

717
00:30:05,865 --> 00:30:07,765
and being a submissive <laugh>?

718
00:30:08,745 --> 00:30:10,725
I'm gonna say 90% of the time I don't.

719
00:30:10,945 --> 00:30:14,685
Um, <laugh>, there's no balance.
It's, it's a seesaw. Okay.

720
00:30:15,705 --> 00:30:20,045
The moment I'm focusing
on one thing that needs me

721
00:30:20,425 --> 00:30:23,565
and that seesaw goes down,
the other thing goes up,

722
00:30:23,885 --> 00:30:26,565
whatever is just flies off
into space and there's chaos,

723
00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:28,725
and I run to the other
side and I pick that up.

724
00:30:29,225 --> 00:30:31,445
Um, as a submissive, most of

725
00:30:31,445 --> 00:30:34,805
what I do is a submissive is
completely interwoven into most

726
00:30:34,865 --> 00:30:36,325
of my daily life.

727
00:30:36,745 --> 00:30:39,965
Uh, not my mom's stuff,
but like, just living life.

728
00:30:40,225 --> 00:30:43,965
So I don't really have
to balance that part,

729
00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:47,605
the imbalance and the fact
that there is no balances.

730
00:30:47,835 --> 00:30:50,565
There's my life is a submissive
and just living life.

731
00:30:50,595 --> 00:30:53,685
There's the mom life and
there's the business owner life.

732
00:30:53,705 --> 00:30:57,045
And there is no fucking
balance there at all.

733
00:30:57,505 --> 00:30:59,845
It is juggling while spinning plates,

734
00:31:00,055 --> 00:31:01,765
while riding a unicycle.

735
00:31:02,075 --> 00:31:05,685
Okay. <laugh> add in
a little bit of chaos,

736
00:31:06,105 --> 00:31:08,925
and like the universe
going, I would like to see

737
00:31:09,145 --> 00:31:10,365
how much more you can handle.

738
00:31:10,505 --> 00:31:12,925
So unicycle over this banana peel.

739
00:31:13,985 --> 00:31:16,365
Um, then it, then it's even less.

740
00:31:16,665 --> 00:31:20,045
So I do try to prioritize day by day.

741
00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:22,125
Sometimes it's hour by hour. Mm-Hmm.

742
00:31:22,165 --> 00:31:25,365
<affirmative>, what do I have
to focus on in this moment?

743
00:31:26,265 --> 00:31:29,845
It makes me crazy.

744
00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:33,325
It is crazy making, because
there are days where I'm like,

745
00:31:33,405 --> 00:31:35,445
I would really like to
focus on doing these things

746
00:31:35,445 --> 00:31:37,485
around the house that,
you know, are just part

747
00:31:37,485 --> 00:31:38,765
of living in a home.

748
00:31:38,825 --> 00:31:40,285
And also make me feel good.

749
00:31:40,365 --> 00:31:41,525
'cause I'm taking care of the family.

750
00:31:41,585 --> 00:31:43,405
I'm taking care of jb I would
love to do these things,

751
00:31:43,505 --> 00:31:47,045
but also I have a kid over
here who needs home help

752
00:31:47,045 --> 00:31:48,765
with math homework and
have a kid over here

753
00:31:49,025 --> 00:31:51,085
who needs somebody to
attend his band concert.

754
00:31:51,345 --> 00:31:53,245
And I have a business
thing over there, right.

755
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:55,365
Like, <laugh>. So there are days,

756
00:31:55,475 --> 00:31:57,005
it's hour by hour I'm picking.

757
00:31:57,065 --> 00:32:00,245
And then most of the time
when it's not too weird

758
00:32:00,245 --> 00:32:03,045
around here, it's just a day
by day thing where who gets

759
00:32:03,785 --> 00:32:07,445
who gets the bulk of
my attention and focus.

760
00:32:08,265 --> 00:32:12,045
And, um, the thing that
makes it very hard for me

761
00:32:12,045 --> 00:32:13,525
and I struggle with is I cannot

762
00:32:14,345 --> 00:32:16,005
create a routine around that.

763
00:32:16,265 --> 00:32:19,485
And I don't like that <laugh> <laugh>.

764
00:32:19,845 --> 00:32:22,925
I thrive with structure
and a good routine.

765
00:32:23,465 --> 00:32:27,805
Um, and the nature of our
current life is every day is

766
00:32:28,265 --> 00:32:31,325
so different that it is
stressful to me sometimes.

767
00:32:31,705 --> 00:32:35,945
And I just do the best I can
any given moment of the day.

768
00:32:36,465 --> 00:32:37,985
Hmm. So, yeah.

769
00:32:38,405 --> 00:32:39,845
That's probably not at all helpful,

770
00:32:40,105 --> 00:32:43,165
but <laugh> it is the honest answer.

771
00:32:44,435 --> 00:32:47,845
Okay. Um, somebody said more candles.

772
00:32:47,845 --> 00:32:51,005
We want more candles at the
Kry. I'm working on it. Okay.

773
00:32:51,605 --> 00:32:53,325
<laugh>. See, that's a
shameless plug. The kry.com.

774
00:32:53,325 --> 00:32:55,525
We have wax play candles,
soy and paraffin. Yay.

775
00:32:55,555 --> 00:32:56,965
Okay, next one.

776
00:32:57,905 --> 00:33:02,045
How can a learning dom find
themselves more comfortable

777
00:33:02,045 --> 00:33:03,405
when starting a scene?

778
00:33:03,425 --> 00:33:05,605
So a newbie, do Dom who's
still figuring things

779
00:33:05,605 --> 00:33:07,285
out, not comfortable.

780
00:33:07,285 --> 00:33:08,205
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> starting a

781
00:33:08,205 --> 00:33:09,325
scene. How, how do they get there?

782
00:33:09,825 --> 00:33:14,045
- Um, you know, one of
the things I did early on

783
00:33:15,705 --> 00:33:19,685
was I used to run scenes through my head.

784
00:33:19,985 --> 00:33:22,565
Mm. mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay.

785
00:33:23,025 --> 00:33:26,485
Um, you know, well, well, before we played

786
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,885
or did anything, I, I would, you know,

787
00:33:28,885 --> 00:33:30,405
start mapping it out in my head.

788
00:33:31,075 --> 00:33:36,005
Yeah. And just kind of, I mean, just from,

789
00:33:36,395 --> 00:33:41,285
from inception to, you know,
what, what I'm thinking about,

790
00:33:41,745 --> 00:33:46,685
um, into going into good detail with it.

791
00:33:47,105 --> 00:33:50,445
And, and I think by doing that and,

792
00:33:50,445 --> 00:33:52,925
and running it through my
head like that, it kind

793
00:33:52,925 --> 00:33:53,965
of reinforced me.

794
00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:55,725
It's like, okay, yeah, I can do this.

795
00:33:55,725 --> 00:33:57,485
This can, you know, this is

796
00:33:57,485 --> 00:33:58,485
- The thing I'm
- Gonna do.

797
00:33:58,485 --> 00:33:59,205
This is the thing I'm gonna do.

798
00:33:59,625 --> 00:34:01,525
- How, especially when
you were newer at this,

799
00:34:01,945 --> 00:34:03,485
how did you reconcile?

800
00:34:03,665 --> 00:34:05,725
You had, you had kind of run
through it in your head Mm-Hmm.

801
00:34:05,765 --> 00:34:07,485
<affirmative> how you thought
it was gonna go, and then in

802
00:34:07,485 --> 00:34:09,005
invariably when reality struck

803
00:34:09,025 --> 00:34:11,205
and it didn't quite go
according to your Mm-Hmm.

804
00:34:11,245 --> 00:34:12,685
<affirmative> internal plan. Like,

805
00:34:12,905 --> 00:34:14,845
how did you feel about
that? How did you adjust?

806
00:34:15,425 --> 00:34:18,965
- Um, I, I think in the beginning, early,

807
00:34:19,055 --> 00:34:21,325
early on, it upset me.

808
00:34:21,325 --> 00:34:26,125
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And
then I realized, you know what,

809
00:34:27,035 --> 00:34:28,365
it's never gonna be perfect.

810
00:34:29,055 --> 00:34:30,445
Right. And,

811
00:34:30,745 --> 00:34:34,925
and, you know, um, it, it's just,

812
00:34:35,115 --> 00:34:36,485
it's gonna be what it's gonna be.

813
00:34:36,775 --> 00:34:39,005
- Right. I think that
just comes with time and

814
00:34:39,015 --> 00:34:41,045
- Confidence and, and
that, that comes with time.

815
00:34:41,345 --> 00:34:44,445
And you know, the, the
more you do it, it's,

816
00:34:44,475 --> 00:34:47,525
it's like riding a bicycle,
you know, muscle memory.

817
00:34:47,545 --> 00:34:49,405
Muscle memory. That's, that's what,

818
00:34:49,945 --> 00:34:51,205
that's what you wanna build.

819
00:34:51,305 --> 00:34:52,325
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you know,

820
00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,245
and it's more than just
a physical muscle memory.

821
00:34:55,355 --> 00:34:57,925
It's that mental muscle
memory as well. Sure.

822
00:34:59,405 --> 00:35:01,205
- I have noticed, and I
don't know if you do this,

823
00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:03,525
and maybe I read too much
fiction, but I'm here for it,

824
00:35:03,945 --> 00:35:05,485
and maybe you have done
it and I just didn't know.

825
00:35:05,765 --> 00:35:07,165
'cause I can be oblivious.

826
00:35:08,045 --> 00:35:09,765
A thing I've noticed
that Doms sometimes do,

827
00:35:09,785 --> 00:35:11,645
and I I, there's all kinds
of reasons they would do it.

828
00:35:11,645 --> 00:35:13,005
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
one of those would be

829
00:35:13,465 --> 00:35:15,485
to signal a start to the moment,

830
00:35:15,585 --> 00:35:18,605
and also to give themselves
time to like take a breath,

831
00:35:19,265 --> 00:35:23,885
is they get their
submissive into some sort

832
00:35:23,885 --> 00:35:24,925
of starting position.

833
00:35:25,105 --> 00:35:26,605
And that might be pre-negotiated.

834
00:35:26,705 --> 00:35:28,845
It might be a command given
at the start of the scene.

835
00:35:28,845 --> 00:35:30,605
Something that indicates
the scene is starting.

836
00:35:31,305 --> 00:35:32,965
And you, I know you love to do this.

837
00:35:33,045 --> 00:35:35,125
I don't know your reasons,
but I know you love to do it.

838
00:35:35,185 --> 00:35:38,365
You'll have me get into a
position Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

839
00:35:39,065 --> 00:35:42,045
And then just leave me there for, to me,

840
00:35:42,105 --> 00:35:44,885
in my impatient brain, it
feels like I'm there forever.

841
00:35:46,075 --> 00:35:49,365
It's like a minute. If that is that,

842
00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:51,685
- It's the building of anticipation.

843
00:35:52,355 --> 00:35:54,925
- It's the what will she do
when she gets really impatient?

844
00:35:55,385 --> 00:35:59,285
How <laugh> can I then, you
know, air quote, punish her

845
00:35:59,385 --> 00:36:01,085
for, for getting impatient.

846
00:36:01,365 --> 00:36:02,885
I know what it is. It's
part of the game, <laugh>.

847
00:36:03,225 --> 00:36:06,645
But have you ever used a moment like that

848
00:36:06,945 --> 00:36:09,525
or heard of somebody using a
moment like that just to like,

849
00:36:09,705 --> 00:36:13,925
as the dom kind of get
yourself together, take a beat,

850
00:36:14,435 --> 00:36:15,485
breathe, go.

851
00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:18,085
Okay, they're there, we're
starting Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,

852
00:36:18,475 --> 00:36:19,685
- What
- Do I want to do first?

853
00:36:20,835 --> 00:36:22,045
Yeah. Like, am I just made

854
00:36:22,045 --> 00:36:23,605
that up in my head or
read too much fiction?

855
00:36:23,705 --> 00:36:25,205
Or is that like a potential

856
00:36:25,445 --> 00:36:26,445
- Strategy?

857
00:36:26,445 --> 00:36:28,085
I, I wouldn't say I do it all
the time, but I have done it.

858
00:36:28,085 --> 00:36:31,085
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
at at times. Yes. Right.

859
00:36:31,105 --> 00:36:33,925
- And I, I think that, you know,

860
00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:39,685
Having those moments to
give, to remind yourself

861
00:36:39,685 --> 00:36:40,925
that you are in control here.

862
00:36:40,925 --> 00:36:42,885
Your submissive is given
their consent for you

863
00:36:42,885 --> 00:36:44,885
to take the lead, and
then they go do this the

864
00:36:44,885 --> 00:36:46,005
first thing you tell them to do.

865
00:36:46,005 --> 00:36:47,325
Right. Get on your knees,

866
00:36:47,325 --> 00:36:48,765
bend over the bed, take your clothes off.

867
00:36:48,765 --> 00:36:50,085
Like what, whatever, whatever.

868
00:36:51,125 --> 00:36:54,685
I think that's, that's the
start of these little steps

869
00:36:54,685 --> 00:36:55,805
that build confidence

870
00:36:55,915 --> 00:36:58,725
because I think there's
also that in my mind,

871
00:36:58,845 --> 00:37:00,005
a scene and not mine.

872
00:37:00,005 --> 00:37:02,525
The mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
generic. My mind scene.

873
00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:04,245
It's this really complicated complex,

874
00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:06,005
all these moving parts
things, blah, blah, blah.

875
00:37:06,065 --> 00:37:08,445
And that can be very
overwhelming for somebody

876
00:37:08,445 --> 00:37:10,765
who doesn't have a lot of
experience with a scene like that.

877
00:37:10,795 --> 00:37:15,445
True. And a scene can literally
be one action, a few words.

878
00:37:15,445 --> 00:37:17,325
Right. Like, it doesn't have to, and, and

879
00:37:17,325 --> 00:37:18,565
- I was be that elabor
elaborate, and I was,

880
00:37:18,565 --> 00:37:21,765
and I was gonna say, you know,
is especially if, if it's

881
00:37:21,765 --> 00:37:25,765
for someone new, don't, don't make it

882
00:37:27,105 --> 00:37:28,125
so elaborate.

883
00:37:28,345 --> 00:37:29,845
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you know, that,

884
00:37:30,755 --> 00:37:31,805
that you're overwhelmed.

885
00:37:32,655 --> 00:37:36,165
Start with a small scene. Just
do a spanking. Right. Okay.

886
00:37:36,585 --> 00:37:39,405
You know, and, and that's all it takes.

887
00:37:39,545 --> 00:37:42,445
And, and from there you add a
little bit, add a little bit,

888
00:37:42,465 --> 00:37:44,605
add a little bit until you
get to where you want to be.

889
00:37:44,815 --> 00:37:47,085
- Right. We've had scenes
and I don't know if it's

890
00:37:47,245 --> 00:37:49,165
'cause you were tired,
I don't know if it's

891
00:37:49,285 --> 00:37:51,085
'cause you were like, ah,
I, I wanna fuck around,

892
00:37:51,085 --> 00:37:52,325
but I don't have any ideas right now.

893
00:37:52,575 --> 00:37:55,205
We've had scenes where most
of it was just you telling me

894
00:37:55,205 --> 00:37:56,925
to do things and watching me do them,

895
00:37:57,305 --> 00:37:58,725
you know, take off your clothes.

896
00:37:58,745 --> 00:37:59,885
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> Neil, when I,

897
00:37:59,885 --> 00:38:02,325
when these knees would
still let me crawl, right?

898
00:38:02,325 --> 00:38:04,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And it was just,

899
00:38:04,625 --> 00:38:06,965
you were not even doing anything major.

900
00:38:07,205 --> 00:38:08,445
I wasn't doing anything major.

901
00:38:08,585 --> 00:38:11,605
It was you sort of quietly

902
00:38:12,765 --> 00:38:13,925
exerting control.

903
00:38:14,115 --> 00:38:16,405
Correct. And me doing what you said,

904
00:38:16,545 --> 00:38:19,525
and it might be 15 minutes,
it might be an hour.

905
00:38:19,525 --> 00:38:21,765
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And that's a scene.

906
00:38:21,905 --> 00:38:24,525
And there wasn't, there
wasn't any equipment to it.

907
00:38:24,655 --> 00:38:27,525
There wasn't any roleplay, dirty talk.

908
00:38:27,825 --> 00:38:30,205
You didn't have to do five
different kinks at once.

909
00:38:30,345 --> 00:38:31,605
- No. <laugh> no.

910
00:38:32,065 --> 00:38:34,165
- And I that Yeah. When,
when you're still learning

911
00:38:34,185 --> 00:38:35,645
and you're trying to build your confidence

912
00:38:35,645 --> 00:38:36,685
and you haven't done a lot of scenes.

913
00:38:36,685 --> 00:38:39,765
Yeah. Start simple. Right? Start it. Yeah.

914
00:38:39,895 --> 00:38:41,045
Don't, don't worry about,

915
00:38:41,165 --> 00:38:42,165
- I mean that's, that's, that's the,

916
00:38:42,165 --> 00:38:43,005
- The major production yet that's,

917
00:38:43,005 --> 00:38:45,645
- That, that's the best way
to build your confidence.

918
00:38:45,645 --> 00:38:47,645
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
you know, start small.

919
00:38:48,345 --> 00:38:50,525
If you try to do too much, you're going

920
00:38:50,525 --> 00:38:52,765
to overwhelm yourself and,

921
00:38:52,785 --> 00:38:54,605
and that's not good.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

922
00:38:54,625 --> 00:38:57,725
- Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay, next one.

923
00:38:57,945 --> 00:39:02,005
- All right.
- For Doms, setting boundaries. Mm-Hmm.

924
00:39:02,045 --> 00:39:05,005
<affirmative>, why does it hurt
different when a sub chooses

925
00:39:05,005 --> 00:39:06,325
to breach those boundaries?

926
00:39:06,745 --> 00:39:08,325
So I'm gonna go ahead and insert myself

927
00:39:08,465 --> 00:39:12,685
and say, I don't think
a dom being, you know,

928
00:39:12,885 --> 00:39:16,965
a sub not doing whatever or
a breach of trust Mm-Hmm.

929
00:39:17,005 --> 00:39:19,325
<affirmative> from a sub is somehow worse

930
00:39:19,545 --> 00:39:21,885
or better than when a dom does it.

931
00:39:22,125 --> 00:39:24,725
I think, I think it's more
about the power exchange

932
00:39:25,025 --> 00:39:28,925
and when a boundary is, you know, yeah.

933
00:39:29,075 --> 00:39:30,685
Ignored in power exchange

934
00:39:30,845 --> 00:39:33,645
or when there's a problem in
power exchange, I think most

935
00:39:33,645 --> 00:39:36,725
of us probably would probably agree

936
00:39:36,725 --> 00:39:38,765
that it feels somehow deeper

937
00:39:39,545 --> 00:39:43,445
and more hurtful than a
non kink relationship.

938
00:39:43,645 --> 00:39:44,765
I think that's a common Mm-Hmm.

939
00:39:44,805 --> 00:39:47,525
<affirmative> thing that a lot
of us have expressed before.

940
00:39:47,525 --> 00:39:51,525
Right. Um, but from a
Doms perspective Mm-Hmm.

941
00:39:51,565 --> 00:39:54,725
<affirmative>, um, what,
what would you say?

942
00:39:54,895 --> 00:39:55,965
- Gimme the question again

943
00:39:56,305 --> 00:39:57,305
- For Doms?

944
00:39:57,305 --> 00:39:58,725
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
setting boundaries. Right.

945
00:39:58,825 --> 00:40:02,165
Why does it hurt different
when a sub chooses

946
00:40:02,165 --> 00:40:03,445
to breach those boundaries?

947
00:40:03,505 --> 00:40:04,505
Mm-Hmm.

948
00:40:05,155 --> 00:40:09,845
- Well, <affirmative>, you know, when,

949
00:40:09,915 --> 00:40:13,445
when breach boundaries like that, it's,

950
00:40:13,515 --> 00:40:14,725
it's a break of trust.

951
00:40:14,785 --> 00:40:17,325
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
it, you know, that's,

952
00:40:17,325 --> 00:40:18,405
that's pretty much it.

953
00:40:18,945 --> 00:40:21,245
Um, you know, and,

954
00:40:21,265 --> 00:40:25,645
and I'm don't know how
they, um, mean this question

955
00:40:26,305 --> 00:40:29,525
per se, because there's two
ways I think you look at it.

956
00:40:29,905 --> 00:40:33,165
Um, you know, as you dom is your daddy,

957
00:40:33,845 --> 00:40:35,045
I set a boundary for you.

958
00:40:35,835 --> 00:40:37,365
- Okay. And then I go
off and do whatever the

959
00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:38,925
- Fuck I want and you go
off and do whatever I want.

960
00:40:39,015 --> 00:40:40,045
Could not be me. Alright.

961
00:40:40,365 --> 00:40:41,685
<laugh> or, you know, it,

962
00:40:41,745 --> 00:40:43,845
it could be I have a personal boundary.

963
00:40:43,895 --> 00:40:45,245
Right. Alright.

964
00:40:45,945 --> 00:40:49,125
And, and I tell you, you know,
this, this is, this is it,

965
00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:50,765
this is something you're

966
00:40:50,765 --> 00:40:51,965
- Not allowed
- To do with not allowed with me.

967
00:40:52,345 --> 00:40:53,725
I'm not gonna accept. All right. Right.

968
00:40:53,905 --> 00:40:55,725
And, and you crossed that line. Right.

969
00:40:55,725 --> 00:40:57,405
So I mean, that, that's two possible ways

970
00:40:57,425 --> 00:40:58,485
of looking at this question.

971
00:40:58,885 --> 00:41:02,845
Absolutely. But either way,
it's a breach of trust. Right.

972
00:41:03,025 --> 00:41:04,845
- You can't, how do you trust the person

973
00:41:04,905 --> 00:41:07,045
who just wa walked all over a rule

974
00:41:07,305 --> 00:41:09,445
or a thing they agreed to do or

975
00:41:09,445 --> 00:41:10,445
- Not to do?

976
00:41:10,445 --> 00:41:12,805
Yeah. Right. Yeah. I I mean
it's, it's the same thing.

977
00:41:12,825 --> 00:41:14,285
And I'm gonna use this as an example

978
00:41:14,285 --> 00:41:15,805
and I've used it an example in the past.

979
00:41:16,305 --> 00:41:20,645
Um, it's, it's the same
thing as going into a scene

980
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:24,445
with somebody and, you know, having

981
00:41:24,985 --> 00:41:28,405
things set in place, you
know, what's your safe word

982
00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:33,885
and tell me, and even
though they should have,

983
00:41:33,885 --> 00:41:35,645
they don't use the safe word. Right?

984
00:41:36,195 --> 00:41:40,885
- Yeah.
- Okay. You know, that is a big <laugh>.

985
00:41:41,055 --> 00:41:42,565
- Right. It, it breaks trust

986
00:41:42,565 --> 00:41:44,925
because then you then cannot
depend on that person.

987
00:41:44,975 --> 00:41:47,125
Right. To not do that in the
future. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

988
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:48,125
Right. I get it. And the,

989
00:41:48,265 --> 00:41:50,005
the question about why does it hurt worse?

990
00:41:50,095 --> 00:41:53,805
Again, let's go back to
this is not unique to

991
00:41:55,195 --> 00:41:57,405
subs, you know, hurting their doms.

992
00:41:57,405 --> 00:41:59,125
It goes, it goes all the ways

993
00:41:59,155 --> 00:42:00,285
with all of these relationships.

994
00:42:00,545 --> 00:42:03,565
And I think that why it feels
like it hurts worse if you're

995
00:42:03,565 --> 00:42:06,045
comparing it to previous
non kink relationships.

996
00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:10,605
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
is that the, what we do

997
00:42:10,865 --> 00:42:14,045
to create a power exchange

998
00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:15,845
that is hopefully happy and healthy.

999
00:42:15,845 --> 00:42:19,045
Right? Right. Or is
trying to get there feels

1000
00:42:19,145 --> 00:42:22,765
and often is more in depth than what we do

1001
00:42:22,765 --> 00:42:24,085
for non-kin relationships now.

1002
00:42:24,085 --> 00:42:28,285
Correct. Should non
kinky relationships stay

1003
00:42:28,285 --> 00:42:30,965
that surface level and no, we should go

1004
00:42:30,995 --> 00:42:32,485
that in depth with all kinds

1005
00:42:32,665 --> 00:42:33,665
- Of relationships.

1006
00:42:33,665 --> 00:42:34,885
- With all Yeah. But in general we don't,

1007
00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:38,605
and most of us are first time
really clearly communicating

1008
00:42:39,095 --> 00:42:41,085
needs and wants and
desires and boundaries.

1009
00:42:41,085 --> 00:42:43,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and getting
that kind of communication

1010
00:42:43,285 --> 00:42:44,725
and return and getting that level

1011
00:42:44,745 --> 00:42:45,885
of trust with another partner.

1012
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:47,885
For a lot of us, the first time we get

1013
00:42:47,885 --> 00:42:48,965
that is in power exchange.

1014
00:42:49,065 --> 00:42:54,005
So when somebody violates that,
it can be heart-wrenching.

1015
00:42:54,005 --> 00:42:56,565
Yeah. 'cause you're like,
wait, we did all the work.

1016
00:42:56,965 --> 00:42:59,845
I gave you all this
trust, I depended on you

1017
00:42:59,845 --> 00:43:01,325
to do the thing you said you would do.

1018
00:43:01,665 --> 00:43:03,725
And this is supposed
to be different from a

1019
00:43:03,785 --> 00:43:04,965
non kink situation.

1020
00:43:04,965 --> 00:43:06,885
Mm-Hmm. This is heartbreaking.

1021
00:43:06,885 --> 00:43:10,125
- Right. And and that's what
even makes a, a DS breakup.

1022
00:43:10,665 --> 00:43:12,605
Yes. That much more Yes.

1023
00:43:12,835 --> 00:43:16,205
Intense than, than other
relationships at times.

1024
00:43:16,745 --> 00:43:20,765
You know, when you go into
a DS relationship like that,

1025
00:43:22,965 --> 00:43:26,305
if you're doing it right and
you're communicating and, and,

1026
00:43:26,365 --> 00:43:27,385
and you're building the trust

1027
00:43:27,385 --> 00:43:29,385
and the respect, you also allow yourself

1028
00:43:29,385 --> 00:43:30,465
to be very vulnerable.

1029
00:43:30,535 --> 00:43:32,625
- Yeah. It's soul bearing
- For sure. Okay.

1030
00:43:32,925 --> 00:43:35,785
And, and when you allow
yourself to be vulnerable

1031
00:43:35,885 --> 00:43:38,825
to those levels, yes it can. Right.

1032
00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:41,865
- It's, it's a big risk,
big reward when it works

1033
00:43:42,165 --> 00:43:44,945
and when everybody involved
take that vulnerability

1034
00:43:44,965 --> 00:43:46,225
and intimacy seriously.

1035
00:43:46,225 --> 00:43:47,665
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
it's fucking amazing.

1036
00:43:48,285 --> 00:43:51,625
And when somebody fucks it up right,

1037
00:43:51,965 --> 00:43:54,145
by not being trustworthy
and not having integrity

1038
00:43:54,285 --> 00:43:57,785
or whatever, whatever the
situation is, then it's

1039
00:43:59,125 --> 00:44:00,385
the opposite end of

1040
00:44:00,385 --> 00:44:02,865
that spectrum then it's the
most heartbreaking thing you've

1041
00:44:02,865 --> 00:44:03,945
ever gone through in your life.

1042
00:44:03,945 --> 00:44:05,145
Right? Yeah. Um,

1043
00:44:05,525 --> 00:44:07,145
and that, that I think I
agree with the completely

1044
00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:08,345
that's where that comes from.

1045
00:44:08,375 --> 00:44:10,345
Yeah. That does not mean you should not be

1046
00:44:10,345 --> 00:44:11,625
vulnerable with the next partner.

1047
00:44:11,925 --> 00:44:13,945
It does not necessarily mean

1048
00:44:13,945 --> 00:44:15,905
that the relationship cannot be salvaged.

1049
00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:17,705
You know, sometimes it does.

1050
00:44:17,705 --> 00:44:20,385
Sometimes it's, it's a step too far.

1051
00:44:20,385 --> 00:44:21,865
Sometimes it's, this wasn't your first

1052
00:44:21,865 --> 00:44:22,945
time you keep doing this.

1053
00:44:23,295 --> 00:44:25,825
Sometimes you were getting played by,

1054
00:44:26,245 --> 00:44:28,145
you know, a fake, right?

1055
00:44:28,145 --> 00:44:29,465
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative>. Like those

1056
00:44:29,465 --> 00:44:32,445
things happen, but sometimes it's

1057
00:44:32,645 --> 00:44:36,925
'cause somebody fell
back on old habits and,

1058
00:44:37,065 --> 00:44:39,645
and you know, not great behaviors

1059
00:44:39,645 --> 00:44:41,285
and sometimes it's a miscommunication

1060
00:44:41,305 --> 00:44:43,285
and sometimes it's whatever.

1061
00:44:43,505 --> 00:44:46,245
And I think it's okay
if you go, I don't care

1062
00:44:46,245 --> 00:44:47,725
that this is under understandable

1063
00:44:47,785 --> 00:44:49,765
and I know why you did this.

1064
00:44:49,965 --> 00:44:52,925
I I can't continue this. I that's valid.

1065
00:44:53,525 --> 00:44:56,805
I am that kind of person most of the time.

1066
00:44:57,265 --> 00:45:00,485
Um, but it's also okay to go,
okay, can we talk this out?

1067
00:45:00,705 --> 00:45:01,725
Can we try again?

1068
00:45:02,305 --> 00:45:04,965
You know, the, the scary thing,

1069
00:45:04,965 --> 00:45:07,005
and I tend to see this
mostly in submissives.

1070
00:45:07,045 --> 00:45:08,485
I, I'm sure it happens to doms,

1071
00:45:08,485 --> 00:45:11,205
but I don't really see it that
often is sometimes we give

1072
00:45:11,205 --> 00:45:12,645
our partner too many chances

1073
00:45:12,745 --> 00:45:15,885
and we give them too many
opportunities to cause harm

1074
00:45:16,025 --> 00:45:18,845
and they do, and we get stuck in this,

1075
00:45:19,065 --> 00:45:20,525
but this is the only person I'll ever get

1076
00:45:20,745 --> 00:45:22,365
to be my dom or sub.

1077
00:45:22,385 --> 00:45:25,405
And so I guess I'm No, that
is never true scarcity thing.

1078
00:45:26,465 --> 00:45:28,205
No. There's somebody out there, they

1079
00:45:28,755 --> 00:45:30,765
will almost never be like in a drive

1080
00:45:30,785 --> 00:45:32,045
within driving distance.

1081
00:45:32,115 --> 00:45:34,005
They just <laugh> they will be on another

1082
00:45:34,645 --> 00:45:36,525
continent across some large body

1083
00:45:36,625 --> 00:45:38,445
of water, but they will be out there.

1084
00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:40,205
Yeah. So, okay.

1085
00:45:40,595 --> 00:45:42,285
- Yeah. I finally met somebody with, uh,

1086
00:45:42,335 --> 00:45:45,885
compatible kinks in their
four times zones away. Right.

1087
00:45:46,285 --> 00:45:48,525
- <laugh>. Right. Didn't
say it would be easy,

1088
00:45:48,585 --> 00:45:50,325
but I I do believe they're out there.

1089
00:45:50,575 --> 00:45:52,805
Right. Okay, next question.

1090
00:45:53,705 --> 00:45:57,245
Uh, this is about the kry
shameless uhuh plug kry.com.

1091
00:45:57,785 --> 00:45:59,565
Do y'all make every cane to order

1092
00:45:59,585 --> 00:46:01,165
or do you have a stockpile you pull from?

1093
00:46:02,185 --> 00:46:05,445
Uh, if it's a wooden handle,
we pre-make those. Right.

1094
00:46:05,585 --> 00:46:07,565
Uh, except when we're
sold out and I, mm-Hmm.

1095
00:46:07,605 --> 00:46:09,205
<affirmative>, I'm waiting
on JB to make more. Right.

1096
00:46:09,685 --> 00:46:12,165
- <laugh>. Huh? Is that
a hint? <laugh>? Yes.

1097
00:46:12,275 --> 00:46:13,645
- Yeah, it's, yes. I'm out a quarter

1098
00:46:13,645 --> 00:46:14,645
- Inch cane.

1099
00:46:14,645 --> 00:46:16,725
Yes, I know <laugh>.
Okay. So, you know Yeah.

1100
00:46:16,785 --> 00:46:18,725
The, the wooden cane handles, um,

1101
00:46:18,785 --> 00:46:21,205
- So it's, it's white
Dell RIN is the cane,

1102
00:46:21,205 --> 00:46:22,485
and then the handle is

1103
00:46:22,485 --> 00:46:23,485
- Wood is wooden.

1104
00:46:23,825 --> 00:46:28,125
Um, you know, yes. Those,
those are made ahead. Mm-Hmm.

1105
00:46:28,165 --> 00:46:30,565
<affirmative> because those
are, are pretty standard.

1106
00:46:31,145 --> 00:46:35,365
Uh, as far as the, um,
resin handles though,

1107
00:46:35,935 --> 00:46:37,365
those are made to order.

1108
00:46:37,465 --> 00:46:39,925
Yep. Okay. Once we get an order in and,

1109
00:46:39,945 --> 00:46:42,645
and folks have chosen their colors,

1110
00:46:43,385 --> 00:46:44,645
that's when the clock starts.

1111
00:46:44,975 --> 00:46:48,085
- Right. And those are, yeah, those,

1112
00:46:48,085 --> 00:46:49,085
because you pick your colors.

1113
00:46:49,085 --> 00:46:50,085
Right. If we're making a,

1114
00:46:50,225 --> 00:46:52,805
so if you didn't
know@thekinky.com, we sell canes.

1115
00:46:52,805 --> 00:46:54,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> we sell two sizes

1116
00:46:54,305 --> 00:46:55,565
and we sell two variations.

1117
00:46:55,695 --> 00:46:58,005
Right. The two sizes are quarter inch.

1118
00:46:58,005 --> 00:47:00,565
That is gonna be a very
whippy, very stingy,

1119
00:47:00,595 --> 00:47:02,405
very burny fucking cane.

1120
00:47:02,405 --> 00:47:04,845
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and three
eighths, which is thicker.

1121
00:47:04,865 --> 00:47:06,645
So not whippy, but still burny

1122
00:47:06,645 --> 00:47:08,485
because that's what, that's what canes do,

1123
00:47:08,705 --> 00:47:09,965
but it's also got a thud to it.

1124
00:47:10,465 --> 00:47:12,885
So of those two sizes, we
sell two variations. Mm-Hmm.

1125
00:47:12,925 --> 00:47:15,085
<affirmative> one with a wooden
handle. Those come pre-made

1126
00:47:15,825 --> 00:47:16,965
one with a resin handle.

1127
00:47:16,965 --> 00:47:18,205
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> where we pour

1128
00:47:18,435 --> 00:47:20,485
that cane handle once you order it,

1129
00:47:20,555 --> 00:47:23,405
because you can pick your
colors, you can pick one color,

1130
00:47:23,665 --> 00:47:26,045
you can pick up to two colors. So,

1131
00:47:26,315 --> 00:47:27,315
- Okay.

1132
00:47:27,315 --> 00:47:28,165
And there, there was a kind

1133
00:47:28,165 --> 00:47:30,605
of a follow up question
asked in the chat to this.

1134
00:47:30,945 --> 00:47:33,405
Uh, it says is because demand is so high

1135
00:47:33,435 --> 00:47:36,805
that you do customs,
um, not necessarily in,

1136
00:47:36,825 --> 00:47:39,685
in the beginning when I first
started playing with the, um,

1137
00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:43,445
with the resin handles for the canes, um,

1138
00:47:43,965 --> 00:47:45,085
I, I picked some colors.

1139
00:47:45,365 --> 00:47:48,405
I, I poured the resin
and, and did that and,

1140
00:47:48,545 --> 00:47:53,245
and we did do, you
know, uh, certain colors

1141
00:47:54,345 --> 00:47:59,285
and it got to the point that, um,

1142
00:48:00,465 --> 00:48:03,165
people were like, well,
can you do these colors

1143
00:48:03,345 --> 00:48:04,725
or can you do those colors?

1144
00:48:04,785 --> 00:48:06,685
And, and this, and, and it was

1145
00:48:06,685 --> 00:48:10,885
after some discussion, rather
than make a bunch of handles

1146
00:48:10,885 --> 00:48:14,885
and have them sit and come,
you know, to find their person.

1147
00:48:15,745 --> 00:48:18,525
And resin is expensive,
Micah is expensive.

1148
00:48:18,945 --> 00:48:22,005
Uh, we decided to go ahead
and do it as custom orders.

1149
00:48:22,705 --> 00:48:27,205
Um, that way we pour the
resin as we need it. Mm-Hmm.

1150
00:48:27,245 --> 00:48:29,965
<affirmative> and people get
to pick the colors they want.

1151
00:48:30,095 --> 00:48:31,565
Right. It's right off the bat

1152
00:48:31,905 --> 00:48:34,885
- We are and probably
will be forever while

1153
00:48:35,425 --> 00:48:36,885
the kry is in existence.

1154
00:48:36,885 --> 00:48:38,605
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> our unlimited space,

1155
00:48:39,305 --> 00:48:41,005
we are also limited in manpower.

1156
00:48:41,035 --> 00:48:42,285
It's just the two of us. Right.

1157
00:48:42,385 --> 00:48:43,565
I'm not allowed to touch a blade

1158
00:48:43,565 --> 00:48:44,805
because I like having all my fingers.

1159
00:48:44,805 --> 00:48:47,765
Thanks <laugh>. So certain things

1160
00:48:47,765 --> 00:48:49,245
that we can make in advance

1161
00:48:49,245 --> 00:48:51,485
and just have stocked, we
will absolutely do that.

1162
00:48:51,485 --> 00:48:53,605
Yeah. Certain things
where there's, we want

1163
00:48:53,605 --> 00:48:54,685
to give people choice

1164
00:48:54,865 --> 00:48:57,645
and we also don't wanna make a shit ton.

1165
00:48:58,055 --> 00:49:00,045
Right. And then not, you know,

1166
00:49:00,045 --> 00:49:02,965
it never move, then we do it like that.

1167
00:49:03,205 --> 00:49:06,125
Resin was an easy one. I'm
actually thinking of doing that

1168
00:49:06,275 --> 00:49:10,245
with another product we
have where color is involved

1169
00:49:10,305 --> 00:49:12,645
so people can just order
the fucking color they want.

1170
00:49:12,645 --> 00:49:16,205
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but um, yeah,

1171
00:49:16,505 --> 00:49:19,605
so our canes, I canes correct me, we are,

1172
00:49:20,015 --> 00:49:23,725
we're an impact play is
our main thing at the Ry.

1173
00:49:23,725 --> 00:49:25,565
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
it's mostly paddles,

1174
00:49:25,665 --> 00:49:28,645
but it's not all paddles
and canes crack me up

1175
00:49:28,805 --> 00:49:30,645
'cause we'll go like weeks.

1176
00:49:30,665 --> 00:49:31,725
Nobody buys a cane.

1177
00:49:32,065 --> 00:49:35,245
And then in like a week
and a half everybody

1178
00:49:35,435 --> 00:49:37,125
- Buys, they'll, they'll
be flying out the, we

1179
00:49:37,125 --> 00:49:38,005
- Were sold out again and we're like,

1180
00:49:38,075 --> 00:49:39,165
wait, what happened there?

1181
00:49:39,165 --> 00:49:43,085
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Um, so yeah. It's, it's

1182
00:49:43,585 --> 00:49:44,585
- Fun.

1183
00:49:44,585 --> 00:49:46,165
Yeah. So, you know, and,

1184
00:49:46,185 --> 00:49:49,205
and it same thing with the,
uh, with the resin inlays,

1185
00:49:49,985 --> 00:49:52,925
you know, in, in the beginning
tried, you know, doing a few

1186
00:49:53,545 --> 00:49:55,165
and, and putting them up on the site

1187
00:49:55,165 --> 00:49:56,845
and people were asking, you know,

1188
00:49:57,145 --> 00:49:58,485
are, is this color available?

1189
00:49:58,485 --> 00:50:00,765
Is that color available?
Right? Can you do it like this?

1190
00:50:01,305 --> 00:50:03,765
And, and we just figured at
that point it would be easier

1191
00:50:04,025 --> 00:50:05,725
to, you know, say, okay,

1192
00:50:05,725 --> 00:50:07,485
it takes x amount of time to do this.

1193
00:50:07,655 --> 00:50:10,445
Right. You know, sell it as a custom and,

1194
00:50:10,465 --> 00:50:12,085
and you pick your colors. And

1195
00:50:12,365 --> 00:50:16,325
- Actually, because there's
a, it's reproducible.

1196
00:50:16,345 --> 00:50:19,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, it's
the same size of paddles.

1197
00:50:19,285 --> 00:50:21,045
It's the same design. Resin inlay.

1198
00:50:21,225 --> 00:50:22,645
And it's the same standard colors.

1199
00:50:23,345 --> 00:50:25,045
We actually don't price
it quite like a custom.

1200
00:50:25,315 --> 00:50:26,645
It's made to order.

1201
00:50:27,115 --> 00:50:28,445
- Yeah.
- Custom orders.

1202
00:50:28,665 --> 00:50:32,245
We just, uh, I just promoted
one on social media at the Kry

1203
00:50:32,545 --> 00:50:33,965
in most of the places, <laugh>, um,

1204
00:50:34,615 --> 00:50:37,165
where they ordered a resin inlay paddle.

1205
00:50:37,185 --> 00:50:38,805
So for anybody who's like,
what the fuck is that?

1206
00:50:38,835 --> 00:50:43,085
It's a wooden paddle, JB cuts
out shapes through the, the

1207
00:50:43,895 --> 00:50:45,725
width thickness, whatever of the paddle.

1208
00:50:45,825 --> 00:50:47,125
And we fill that with resin

1209
00:50:47,545 --> 00:50:49,565
and we, the most popular
one is the moon phase.

1210
00:50:49,745 --> 00:50:51,405
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Thank
you. Silent for being the very

1211
00:50:51,405 --> 00:50:53,565
first person to ever received that one.

1212
00:50:53,965 --> 00:50:55,485
<laugh>. Um, X is the one that ordered it,

1213
00:50:55,505 --> 00:50:57,925
but silence paddle <laugh>.

1214
00:50:58,315 --> 00:51:01,005
This person said, I would like
the, the wood to be black,

1215
00:51:01,035 --> 00:51:02,125
like stained black.

1216
00:51:02,125 --> 00:51:03,405
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
I would like the moon

1217
00:51:03,405 --> 00:51:04,645
phase to be gold.

1218
00:51:04,645 --> 00:51:08,685
Well we do not standard
offer stained wood and a

1219
00:51:08,785 --> 00:51:09,805
and gold as a color.

1220
00:51:09,805 --> 00:51:12,005
Right. That was a true custom
order. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1221
00:51:12,005 --> 00:51:13,205
And based on having

1222
00:51:13,265 --> 00:51:15,765
to source the supplies the
extra time it would take

1223
00:51:15,765 --> 00:51:17,925
and who staining that
wood did take extra time.

1224
00:51:17,995 --> 00:51:19,165
Yeah. Um, and all the extra things

1225
00:51:19,165 --> 00:51:20,765
that becomes a true custom order.

1226
00:51:20,865 --> 00:51:24,205
And that price is not the same
price you see on the website.

1227
00:51:24,205 --> 00:51:26,525
No made to order gets a standard price

1228
00:51:26,715 --> 00:51:29,045
because we know how that, we
know how long it's gonna take.

1229
00:51:29,045 --> 00:51:30,085
We know what it's gonna take.

1230
00:51:30,295 --> 00:51:32,845
We're telling you what
materials we have, the colors,

1231
00:51:33,105 --> 00:51:34,725
the designs done.

1232
00:51:34,955 --> 00:51:36,805
This is your price. So
that's made to order.

1233
00:51:37,115 --> 00:51:39,565
Then there's custom where
it's like, what do you want?

1234
00:51:39,705 --> 00:51:42,045
And can we do it? We get
custom requests all the time

1235
00:51:42,045 --> 00:51:43,965
that we're like, that's
a really cool idea.

1236
00:51:44,065 --> 00:51:45,205
We literally cannot do that.

1237
00:51:45,565 --> 00:51:47,245
<laugh> <laugh>, we do not have the tools.

1238
00:51:47,385 --> 00:51:48,845
We do not have the skills.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1239
00:51:49,025 --> 00:51:51,205
That's just not even
fucking possible <laugh>.

1240
00:51:51,205 --> 00:51:54,205
Like, so, um, so yeah.

1241
00:51:54,425 --> 00:51:57,165
So that's also the difference
between custom made

1242
00:51:57,165 --> 00:51:59,005
to order true and then ready made.

1243
00:51:59,005 --> 00:52:01,245
Ready made is the stuff we
try to keep in stock. Mm-Hmm.

1244
00:52:01,285 --> 00:52:03,165
<affirmative> and like our
canes with wooden handles are

1245
00:52:03,165 --> 00:52:04,605
ready made when we have them.

1246
00:52:05,545 --> 00:52:07,645
- And see, that's why I
keep you around. Mm-Hmm.

1247
00:52:07,685 --> 00:52:08,805
<affirmative>, I, I go out in shop

1248
00:52:08,805 --> 00:52:10,005
and I just make, make, make

1249
00:52:10,105 --> 00:52:11,565
and you know, you

1250
00:52:12,305 --> 00:52:15,365
do all the good stuff front facing. Yep.

1251
00:52:16,075 --> 00:52:17,645
- Yeah. I'm gonna double check,

1252
00:52:17,665 --> 00:52:19,565
but I believe that was our last question.

1253
00:52:19,875 --> 00:52:24,445
- Okay. Um,
- Saying that we will take

1254
00:52:25,045 --> 00:52:29,085
a couple of, and couple y'all
is in the two range, maybe up

1255
00:52:29,085 --> 00:52:32,565
to three from the YouTube live chat, uh,

1256
00:52:32,585 --> 00:52:34,525
to ask a question on YouTube live chat

1257
00:52:34,665 --> 00:52:39,645
and um, uh,

1258
00:52:39,665 --> 00:52:40,685
get an actual answer.

1259
00:52:40,735 --> 00:52:42,885
Sorry, I got sidetracked and I can't talk

1260
00:52:42,945 --> 00:52:43,965
and think at the same time.

1261
00:52:44,585 --> 00:52:47,285
Um, please tag us at loving bdsm. Mm-Hmm.

1262
00:52:47,325 --> 00:52:48,885
<affirmative> because it
lights up for us. It should

1263
00:52:48,885 --> 00:52:49,925
not be a long question.

1264
00:52:49,925 --> 00:52:51,085
If it takes more than one little

1265
00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,365
chat box to ask the question.

1266
00:52:52,365 --> 00:52:53,525
That's too in depth.

1267
00:52:54,065 --> 00:52:56,285
You can use our contact
page on our website. Mm-Hmm.

1268
00:52:56,325 --> 00:52:59,645
<affirmative>. Um, so

1269
00:52:59,645 --> 00:53:01,655
yeah, feel free.

1270
00:53:01,715 --> 00:53:05,175
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, there we go.

1271
00:53:05,525 --> 00:53:07,455
- Okay. We have, that wasn't too bad.

1272
00:53:07,455 --> 00:53:10,855
We got through no questions
fairly well. I know there were

1273
00:53:10,855 --> 00:53:12,535
- Several and like, I felt

1274
00:53:13,195 --> 00:53:15,775
us going potentially going
off on tangents on a couple

1275
00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:18,575
of them and we, we sort
of reeled ourself back in.

1276
00:53:18,575 --> 00:53:19,695
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Yeah. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1277
00:53:19,695 --> 00:53:20,695
We'll give it a few minutes if no

1278
00:53:20,815 --> 00:53:21,735
questions come through on live chat.

1279
00:53:21,835 --> 00:53:23,375
No worries. We can do a bonus section.

1280
00:53:23,685 --> 00:53:25,325
- Head to the bonus section. Um,

1281
00:53:25,425 --> 00:53:26,925
you got, got stuff to talk about,

1282
00:53:27,215 --> 00:53:28,215
- Right?

1283
00:53:28,215 --> 00:53:29,845
A, a plug for people who have questions.

1284
00:53:30,145 --> 00:53:32,805
Uh, we have a Monday
episode, it's audio podcast

1285
00:53:33,065 --> 00:53:35,445
and YouTube video where
we answer a question.

1286
00:53:35,945 --> 00:53:38,885
Um, and those will go a little
bit more in depth on Yeah.

1287
00:53:38,985 --> 00:53:42,085
Um, <laugh>, we have had
videos that were as short

1288
00:53:42,105 --> 00:53:43,485
as 10 or 11 minutes.

1289
00:53:44,185 --> 00:53:46,805
We have had videos that were
as long as 30 minutes. Yeah.

1290
00:53:46,925 --> 00:53:49,245
<laugh>. But they're never as long as this

1291
00:53:49,245 --> 00:53:50,245
- Episode.

1292
00:53:50,245 --> 00:53:50,765
As this episode. No.

1293
00:53:51,785 --> 00:53:53,765
- Um,
- <laugh> <laugh>.

1294
00:53:54,105 --> 00:53:55,245
- And that's where it's like, okay,

1295
00:53:55,245 --> 00:53:57,405
here's my highly specific question.

1296
00:53:57,405 --> 00:53:58,885
Here's all of the details.

1297
00:53:59,115 --> 00:54:03,845
Last, uh, this Monday of
the week of recording that,

1298
00:54:03,985 --> 00:54:07,485
um, that question was
several hundred words

1299
00:54:07,825 --> 00:54:09,445
and we, we read it.

1300
00:54:09,755 --> 00:54:11,805
Yeah. Um, <laugh> and uh,

1301
00:54:12,785 --> 00:54:15,925
and that's what the, we
use those videos for is

1302
00:54:15,945 --> 00:54:18,525
to like really dig deep into Right.

1303
00:54:18,705 --> 00:54:20,525
Um, a question. Because sometimes,

1304
00:54:20,525 --> 00:54:22,725
'cause sometimes your
situation truly is, like,

1305
00:54:22,785 --> 00:54:24,165
the details are very unique,

1306
00:54:24,305 --> 00:54:28,005
but the situations tend to be
a little bit more universal.

1307
00:54:28,465 --> 00:54:31,605
And, um, somebody else will
go through something similar.

1308
00:54:32,065 --> 00:54:34,125
Uh, we did get a question
in the live chat. Mm-Hmm.

1309
00:54:34,165 --> 00:54:37,325
<affirmative> about the
march virtual munch. Mm-Hmm.

1310
00:54:37,365 --> 00:54:40,325
<affirmative>, which is a Friday
night live stream, hangout,

1311
00:54:40,325 --> 00:54:41,445
hangout thing we do on YouTube.

1312
00:54:41,445 --> 00:54:44,685
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Uh, and
yes, it is March 15th Friday,

1313
00:54:44,685 --> 00:54:48,245
March 15th, starts at 9:30 PM Eastern.

1314
00:54:48,865 --> 00:54:52,125
We take questions during
that as well. Right.

1315
00:54:52,125 --> 00:54:54,845
We talk about whatever
comes to mind. Mm-Hmm.

1316
00:54:54,885 --> 00:54:57,285
<affirmative>, um, random stuff.

1317
00:54:57,565 --> 00:55:01,865
I mean, we've talked about
alcohol, we've talked about pie

1318
00:55:02,115 --> 00:55:03,385
- Bacon, we
- Talked about bacon.

1319
00:55:03,865 --> 00:55:05,985
<laugh>. There was the great bacon debate.

1320
00:55:06,405 --> 00:55:07,665
- Yes. Yes.
- There was.

1321
00:55:07,665 --> 00:55:10,265
And I still contend that
half of y'all were wrong.

1322
00:55:11,005 --> 00:55:14,065
The superior bacon is
crispy. I'm so sorry. Soft.

1323
00:55:14,285 --> 00:55:16,945
- No,
- The superior bacon should crunch

1324
00:55:16,975 --> 00:55:18,185
like a chip in my mouth.

1325
00:55:18,705 --> 00:55:20,945
I don't want it burnt.
I will eat it burnt.

1326
00:55:21,185 --> 00:55:22,305
I don't want it burnt, but I will eat it.

1327
00:55:22,305 --> 00:55:23,705
- Burn, crunch. Don't
want it raw, but there's

1328
00:55:23,705 --> 00:55:25,385
that sweet spot where it's not.

1329
00:55:25,775 --> 00:55:28,345
- Nope. Yeah. Nope. No.

1330
00:55:28,685 --> 00:55:31,985
Um, so those are the things
you miss if you don't stream.

1331
00:55:32,525 --> 00:55:33,585
We do it once a month.

1332
00:55:34,115 --> 00:55:36,945
Tends to be the third
Friday of the month. Yeah.

1333
00:55:38,185 --> 00:55:39,825
<laugh> life can happen
and it's, you know,

1334
00:55:39,825 --> 00:55:40,945
sometimes shifted,

1335
00:55:41,165 --> 00:55:42,825
but most of the time it's the
third Friday of the month.

1336
00:55:42,825 --> 00:55:45,865
Right. Um, so yeah. And
it, and it's random.

1337
00:55:45,965 --> 00:55:49,265
And I sometimes it's a pajama
party. Um, we are in our PJs.

1338
00:55:49,805 --> 00:55:52,905
Um, yep. And, uh,

1339
00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:56,065
yeah, it's just

1340
00:55:57,385 --> 00:55:58,385
- <laugh>.

1341
00:55:58,385 --> 00:56:00,585
- It's been a hot minute since
we've had an adult beverage.

1342
00:56:00,805 --> 00:56:02,025
It is at a, at a stream.

1343
00:56:02,725 --> 00:56:04,865
We have never taken an
edible and then done

1344
00:56:05,405 --> 00:56:06,625
or edible for me.

1345
00:56:06,645 --> 00:56:08,505
You smoke a bowl <laugh>.
We could do that sometime.

1346
00:56:09,785 --> 00:56:11,225
- I mean, I, no, why

1347
00:56:11,225 --> 00:56:12,225
- Not?

1348
00:56:12,225 --> 00:56:13,825
Is it 'cause your eyes don't
open all the way? <laugh>?

1349
00:56:15,885 --> 00:56:19,065
- The strain I use
- Puts you to sleep is

1350
00:56:19,065 --> 00:56:20,065
- For relaxing.

1351
00:56:20,065 --> 00:56:20,865
It's true. And it puts me to sleep.

1352
00:56:21,085 --> 00:56:23,965
So all I'd do is sit here and
my head would start <laugh>.

1353
00:56:25,405 --> 00:56:27,965
- Actually, I saw you last
night after you smoked.

1354
00:56:28,125 --> 00:56:30,245
I took, I took my gummy
and I was like, Mm-Hmm.

1355
00:56:30,285 --> 00:56:34,165
<affirmative> feeling good.
And you just sat on the couch

1356
00:56:34,785 --> 00:56:38,805
and stared into the middle
distance in one direction.

1357
00:56:39,425 --> 00:56:40,685
And then you would go back to your phone

1358
00:56:40,825 --> 00:56:42,605
and watch reels or play your game.

1359
00:56:42,605 --> 00:56:44,005
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
And then you'd look up

1360
00:56:44,265 --> 00:56:48,285
and just stare <laugh> at another angle.

1361
00:56:48,965 --> 00:56:51,965
<laugh>. And I was,

1362
00:56:52,645 --> 00:56:55,565
I was sitting on the other
couch trying to read my ebook

1363
00:56:55,985 --> 00:56:59,205
and eventually it just became
like words fluttering past me.

1364
00:56:59,205 --> 00:57:00,725
I was like, I don't even know
what these fucking words mean.

1365
00:57:01,005 --> 00:57:02,325
<laugh>. So then I guess I started

1366
00:57:02,325 --> 00:57:03,645
staring into the middle distance.

1367
00:57:03,645 --> 00:57:05,045
But it was in your direction.

1368
00:57:05,485 --> 00:57:08,685
- <laugh>.
- Yeah.

1369
00:57:09,985 --> 00:57:13,045
- Wow. Okay.
- So it sounds to me like either,

1370
00:57:14,045 --> 00:57:16,605
'cause we did, so, um,
we're on, we're about

1371
00:57:16,605 --> 00:57:18,925
to try the third type of gummy for me.

1372
00:57:18,925 --> 00:57:21,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. The
first one we got is so funny.

1373
00:57:21,265 --> 00:57:22,365
It was called knockout.

1374
00:57:22,945 --> 00:57:25,845
And yet we were then shocked
when it literally knocked me

1375
00:57:25,845 --> 00:57:28,765
out, down, down for the count.

1376
00:57:29,345 --> 00:57:31,165
The next one we got was a hybrid.

1377
00:57:31,945 --> 00:57:35,485
Um, that it makes it
easier for me to sleep.

1378
00:57:35,555 --> 00:57:37,125
It's just a very, I'm very relaxed,

1379
00:57:37,505 --> 00:57:40,005
but I'm not like, about to fall over

1380
00:57:40,005 --> 00:57:41,685
and fall asleep like the knockout does.

1381
00:57:42,465 --> 00:57:45,045
Now. We have, and I can't
remember what it's called, the,

1382
00:57:45,585 --> 00:57:47,965
but it's the one that's not
supposed to make you sleepy.

1383
00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:50,965
It's supposed to like, help
you like not be so anxious

1384
00:57:50,985 --> 00:57:52,285
and just help you relax a little bit.

1385
00:57:52,505 --> 00:57:55,285
But I really think that my
problem is, is that I am

1386
00:57:55,855 --> 00:57:57,245
never actually relaxed.

1387
00:57:57,425 --> 00:58:00,605
And so once I am relaxed, even if it's

1388
00:58:00,605 --> 00:58:03,645
through artificial means,
the only thing my body knows

1389
00:58:03,645 --> 00:58:07,005
to do is to go, oh, we're tired. <laugh>,

1390
00:58:07,405 --> 00:58:09,165
- <laugh>
- This.

1391
00:58:09,465 --> 00:58:11,005
We have relaxed. Now the only thing

1392
00:58:11,005 --> 00:58:12,165
left to do is go to sleep

1393
00:58:12,645 --> 00:58:13,645
- <laugh>.

1394
00:58:13,645 --> 00:58:13,685
Yeah. Yeah.

1395
00:58:14,825 --> 00:58:17,925
- So you could take that gummy

1396
00:58:17,925 --> 00:58:20,365
with me once we actually
test it out on our, we,

1397
00:58:20,425 --> 00:58:21,885
we bought it and I haven't tried it yet.

1398
00:58:21,905 --> 00:58:24,685
Mm-Hmm. Because I don't, if
I'm gonna try a new gummy,

1399
00:58:25,435 --> 00:58:27,125
it's going to be on a day

1400
00:58:27,125 --> 00:58:28,445
where I do not have a
lot of responsibilities.

1401
00:58:28,605 --> 00:58:31,725
'cause I don't know how it's
going to affect me. Mm-Hmm.

1402
00:58:31,825 --> 00:58:34,325
And since this one is not
supposed to be a sleepy one,

1403
00:58:34,725 --> 00:58:36,245
I need to take it earlier in the day.

1404
00:58:36,245 --> 00:58:38,525
Because my fear is what if
that hypes me up so much

1405
00:58:38,525 --> 00:58:40,845
that I then can't go to
sleep, then I'll be pissed.

1406
00:58:41,505 --> 00:58:45,805
But I do, I do think my body
is so unused to just relaxing

1407
00:58:45,805 --> 00:58:46,925
that it's like, oh, we've relaxed.

1408
00:58:46,955 --> 00:58:49,005
It's clearly, it's clearly
time to just go to sleep.

1409
00:58:49,105 --> 00:58:50,925
- Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
- So,

1410
00:58:51,225 --> 00:58:53,085
- Um, yes.

1411
00:58:54,105 --> 00:58:58,285
Is it legal in Florida? Um, you, you,

1412
00:58:58,475 --> 00:58:59,565
- Well, I mean, well we bought,

1413
00:58:59,585 --> 00:59:01,285
we buy legal things. Yeah. Like, I'm not,

1414
00:59:01,425 --> 00:59:02,605
- We don't, um, yeah.

1415
00:59:02,745 --> 00:59:05,765
You, you can get a medical
marijuana card, which

1416
00:59:05,765 --> 00:59:06,765
- Is not what we have.

1417
00:59:06,765 --> 00:59:08,645
- Right. And, and also

1418
00:59:08,645 --> 00:59:11,685
because of a kind of a loophole <laugh>

1419
00:59:12,225 --> 00:59:15,405
in Florida law is, is basically
what it comes down to.

1420
00:59:15,985 --> 00:59:19,525
Um, there, there are two
strains, Delta eight, delta nine,

1421
00:59:20,065 --> 00:59:24,925
um, lower, uh, THC content
than what you would get

1422
00:59:24,955 --> 00:59:26,445
through a dispensary.

1423
00:59:26,445 --> 00:59:28,365
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
But it can be legally sold

1424
00:59:29,355 --> 00:59:30,765
over the counter technically.

1425
00:59:30,765 --> 00:59:33,045
- And I was very skeptical
of that. I was Mm-Hmm.

1426
00:59:33,085 --> 00:59:36,045
<affirmative>, I was the old
person type who was like, oh,

1427
00:59:36,235 --> 00:59:39,885
they'll just say anything
to sell a product there.

1428
00:59:40,265 --> 00:59:42,045
It can't be real. It can't be real.

1429
00:59:42,145 --> 00:59:46,365
And then JB tried, he, he smokes,

1430
00:59:46,445 --> 00:59:48,045
I do gummies 'cause I'm not smoking shit.

1431
00:59:48,505 --> 00:59:50,845
Um, and that effect was real.

1432
00:59:50,865 --> 00:59:55,365
And then of course I, I did the thing that

1433
00:59:56,585 --> 00:59:59,165
is it, it's almost a trope now.

1434
00:59:59,585 --> 01:00:00,605
And it's comedic.

1435
01:00:00,725 --> 01:00:04,125
A person who's never taken
an edible takes a whole one

1436
01:00:04,185 --> 01:00:06,685
or starts out taking a a, a fine dose

1437
01:00:06,685 --> 01:00:07,725
and then goes, nothing's happening.

1438
01:00:07,725 --> 01:00:10,605
And then they take the rest.
I took a knockout gummy

1439
01:00:10,605 --> 01:00:12,965
and if you don't know the
words are there knockout?

1440
01:00:13,075 --> 01:00:15,565
Yeah. Lays you flat on your ass. Mm-Hmm.

1441
01:00:15,605 --> 01:00:17,205
<affirmative>, I took the whole fucking

1442
01:00:17,205 --> 01:00:18,205
- Thing.

1443
01:00:18,205 --> 01:00:20,885
She was done. Y'all <laugh>

1444
01:00:21,405 --> 01:00:23,045
I poured her into bed that night.

1445
01:00:23,645 --> 01:00:27,125
- I, it was the, so I
could not hold my body up.

1446
01:00:27,565 --> 01:00:29,685
I would start to drift 'cause
it was knocking me out.

1447
01:00:29,685 --> 01:00:32,765
It was making me want go to
sleep. And I, I would just start

1448
01:00:32,765 --> 01:00:35,765
to fall forward in
whatever position I was in

1449
01:00:35,765 --> 01:00:36,765
and then just hang there.

1450
01:00:37,385 --> 01:00:40,845
But also I felt like I could
feel every nerve ending under

1451
01:00:40,945 --> 01:00:44,165
my skin and like it was
buzzing like static on a tv.

1452
01:00:44,905 --> 01:00:46,645
And also like,

1453
01:00:46,825 --> 01:00:48,685
if I could hold a thought,
I felt like time travel.

1454
01:00:48,925 --> 01:00:52,925
'cause I, I would, something
would either take 30 seconds

1455
01:00:53,145 --> 01:00:54,405
or it would take two hours,

1456
01:00:54,585 --> 01:00:56,525
but actually only five minutes had passed.

1457
01:00:56,865 --> 01:01:00,125
It was fucking wild. I very
rarely take that one, that one.

1458
01:01:00,355 --> 01:01:04,405
Even though I only take like a
quarter of it now. It Mm-Hmm.

1459
01:01:04,745 --> 01:01:07,645
The one I take now makes me very giggly.

1460
01:01:07,745 --> 01:01:09,005
But I, I do go to sleep

1461
01:01:09,955 --> 01:01:11,805
once I'm laying down
and the lights are out.

1462
01:01:12,005 --> 01:01:13,765
Yeah. I'm asleep. So now I have the new

1463
01:01:13,765 --> 01:01:14,845
one to try to see what it does.

1464
01:01:15,565 --> 01:01:19,405
<laugh>. Okay. So, um,

1465
01:01:21,065 --> 01:01:21,845
we did not get any more

1466
01:01:21,965 --> 01:01:23,125
questions. So we'll go to a bonus section.

1467
01:01:23,675 --> 01:01:27,165
- Yeah. But at any rate,
um, it, it helps me a lot.

1468
01:01:27,745 --> 01:01:30,605
Um, I carry my stress in my back.

1469
01:01:30,985 --> 01:01:32,485
- Yes. Which is already jacked up

1470
01:01:32,485 --> 01:01:34,645
- Physically, which is
already jacked up as it is.

1471
01:01:35,345 --> 01:01:38,325
And I have found that, you know,

1472
01:01:38,385 --> 01:01:41,205
on days when I've had a very
long day when I've been on my

1473
01:01:41,205 --> 01:01:45,805
feet a lot, um, having a
little bit of smoke helps

1474
01:01:46,335 --> 01:01:47,965
relax me, unwind me.

1475
01:01:47,965 --> 01:01:51,365
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And I
actually sleep better at night.

1476
01:01:51,835 --> 01:01:55,405
- Yeah, you do.
- So that, uh, for me it is,

1477
01:01:55,425 --> 01:01:57,765
it has been a big, uh, boon.

1478
01:01:57,895 --> 01:01:59,325
Especially with my back.

1479
01:01:59,555 --> 01:02:03,605
- Yeah. Um, I forget it
exists most of the time.

1480
01:02:03,675 --> 01:02:05,205
Like, I don't ever
think, oh, I would like,

1481
01:02:05,525 --> 01:02:06,925
I like a gummy today.

1482
01:02:06,925 --> 01:02:07,925
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> <laugh>.

1483
01:02:08,915 --> 01:02:10,765
It's usually JB going,
I'm gonna go smoke a bowl.

1484
01:02:10,765 --> 01:02:14,165
And I'm like, Hey, yeah, I'll,
I'll take part of a gummy.

1485
01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:16,485
I would like to fall asleep
easily tonight. Mm-Hmm.

1486
01:02:16,525 --> 01:02:19,725
<affirmative>. So anyway, <laugh>, not

1487
01:02:19,725 --> 01:02:20,925
that we're not already really,

1488
01:02:20,925 --> 01:02:22,885
if you think about it
in the bonus section,

1489
01:02:23,065 --> 01:02:26,165
we can officially go
into a bonus section now

1490
01:02:26,685 --> 01:02:27,885
'cause no more questions came through.

1491
01:02:28,945 --> 01:02:32,495
So we can go into a bonus section.

1492
01:02:32,725 --> 01:02:33,975
- Okay. Are we good? I

1493
01:02:33,975 --> 01:02:34,975
- Don't know.

1494
01:02:34,975 --> 01:02:38,575
Are we? I don't know. I feel
like you zoned out there for a

1495
01:02:38,575 --> 01:02:39,575
- Second.

1496
01:02:39,575 --> 01:02:42,935
I was reading the chat.
<laugh>, so. Alright.

1497
01:02:44,335 --> 01:02:45,455
- I dunno. Sure. Uhhuh, <affirmative>.

1498
01:02:46,365 --> 01:02:48,695
- Keep it kinky. All keep
- And we'll see you next week.

1499
01:02:58,845 --> 01:02:59,135
Doty.

1500
01:02:59,595 --> 01:03:01,455
- Yes baby girl.
- Can we just

1501
01:03:01,655 --> 01:03:02,775
continue talking to the crickets?

1502
01:03:03,395 --> 01:03:05,495
- We can continue talking to the crickets.

1503
01:03:05,675 --> 01:03:08,735
- So I'm, my fear is, I, I I
said we'll see you next week,

1504
01:03:08,795 --> 01:03:10,175
but you and I have just have

1505
01:03:10,175 --> 01:03:12,855
to talk about when every
quarter, every three months.

1506
01:03:12,855 --> 01:03:14,375
Mm-Hmm. We try to take a week off's

1507
01:03:14,375 --> 01:03:16,095
and it's mostly a week
off of content creation.

1508
01:03:16,095 --> 01:03:17,615
The kry is still going. Yeah. Okay.

1509
01:03:18,155 --> 01:03:19,575
Um, we're still gonna ship orders,

1510
01:03:19,575 --> 01:03:21,135
we're still gonna make
product, but we like

1511
01:03:21,665 --> 01:03:22,695
chill out with everything else.

1512
01:03:22,875 --> 01:03:26,495
And the march is the last month
of the quarter for us. Oh.

1513
01:03:26,595 --> 01:03:28,055
And we haven't picked a, a week,

1514
01:03:28,075 --> 01:03:29,375
so I say we'll see you next week,

1515
01:03:29,395 --> 01:03:30,455
but we haven't picked a week yet.

1516
01:03:31,195 --> 01:03:34,935
But so the youngest is on online

1517
01:03:35,725 --> 01:03:36,775
virtual school

1518
01:03:37,075 --> 01:03:39,615
and so doesn't really get
a spring break per se,

1519
01:03:40,315 --> 01:03:43,695
but the oldest is on
spring break next week

1520
01:03:44,035 --> 01:03:45,415
and wants to come home.

1521
01:03:46,015 --> 01:03:47,295
I don't think it's gonna last as long

1522
01:03:47,295 --> 01:03:48,455
as he thinks he's gonna be here. Yeah.

1523
01:03:48,455 --> 01:03:49,935
- He thinks he's gonna be
- Here for a solid week

1524
01:03:50,115 --> 01:03:51,575
and I think he's gonna be sick

1525
01:03:51,575 --> 01:03:53,815
of our shit in about 72 hours.

1526
01:03:54,025 --> 01:03:56,015
Right. <laugh>. But I'm not telling him.

1527
01:03:56,035 --> 01:03:57,975
No, come on home baby. Let's, it's fine.

1528
01:03:58,155 --> 01:04:02,495
Um, yes, you can use my
car. Um, so next week,

1529
01:04:02,805 --> 01:04:04,775
- Well, he does have to
work several days. Right.

1530
01:04:04,835 --> 01:04:06,895
- And he works,
- He school's out, but he still has work.

1531
01:04:06,895 --> 01:04:08,175
- Right. And he has to, it'll be like

1532
01:04:08,175 --> 01:04:09,215
an hour drive, commute.

1533
01:04:09,525 --> 01:04:12,015
He's like, I'll put gas in the
car. Yeah, you fucking will.

1534
01:04:12,115 --> 01:04:15,015
Yep. <laugh>. I was like, and
you will drive my car as if

1535
01:04:15,595 --> 01:04:17,015
you are the one who's going to pay

1536
01:04:17,015 --> 01:04:18,215
for the ticket if you get one.

1537
01:04:18,355 --> 01:04:20,135
He was like, yes, I will. <laugh>.

1538
01:04:21,645 --> 01:04:23,735
- Okay, - Then you can
commute. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1539
01:04:23,955 --> 01:04:26,055
Um, so it's like, okay, do we want

1540
01:04:26,155 --> 01:04:29,455
to take the week off while they're both

1541
01:04:30,165 --> 01:04:31,175
like the youngest?

1542
01:04:32,595 --> 01:04:34,215
If he will get his shit
together this week,

1543
01:04:34,315 --> 01:04:36,375
he won't actually have to
do much at all next week.

1544
01:04:36,655 --> 01:04:37,815
'cause he'll be in between some stuff

1545
01:04:38,195 --> 01:04:39,975
and the oldest will be sort of off.

1546
01:04:40,355 --> 01:04:42,535
So do we take the break that week?

1547
01:04:42,535 --> 01:04:44,935
Do we take it the next,
do we, what do we do?

1548
01:04:44,935 --> 01:04:46,375
We haven't decided. So

1549
01:04:48,055 --> 01:04:49,295
<laugh> I say we'll see you

1550
01:04:49,295 --> 01:04:50,455
next week. Yeah. We might have live.

1551
01:04:50,485 --> 01:04:53,175
- Well you know what, that
might be a good next week might

1552
01:04:53,175 --> 01:04:54,655
be the good time to take the break then.

1553
01:04:54,915 --> 01:04:57,655
- Except we need to record
a thing that we're doing

1554
01:04:57,795 --> 01:04:59,135
for another thing coming.

1555
01:04:59,545 --> 01:05:01,495
Right. So see that's what I'm saying.

1556
01:05:01,615 --> 01:05:02,615
I don't know what the answer is,

1557
01:05:03,875 --> 01:05:07,455
- But that's only sit down and
record a a video still work.

1558
01:05:08,065 --> 01:05:09,975
- Still work. That's what I'm saying.

1559
01:05:09,975 --> 01:05:11,815
We just need to look at a
calendar. Yeah. I don't even

1560
01:05:11,885 --> 01:05:12,885
- Know.

1561
01:05:15,315 --> 01:05:19,765
- Yep. Yeah. So, um,
speaking of the oldest

1562
01:05:20,525 --> 01:05:24,045
<laugh> and the fact that
I have no sense of time,

1563
01:05:24,155 --> 01:05:26,245
most time, like what,
how do calendars work?

1564
01:05:26,315 --> 01:05:27,525
What are dates? Mm.

1565
01:05:28,785 --> 01:05:32,285
The, he has a concert
Thursday this week, March 7th

1566
01:05:32,285 --> 01:05:34,125
that we've known about
first a few weeks now.

1567
01:05:34,145 --> 01:05:35,845
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> whole
family's planned on going.

1568
01:05:35,855 --> 01:05:39,285
Whole family, the three of us. Um, great.

1569
01:05:39,465 --> 01:05:42,125
And then several days ago I
get a text from the oldest

1570
01:05:42,385 --> 01:05:46,685
and he goes, I have another
concert this Wednesday

1571
01:05:47,265 --> 01:05:48,365
for Brass band,

1572
01:05:48,365 --> 01:05:50,445
which is like a special
something that he's been doing.

1573
01:05:50,805 --> 01:05:54,685
I was like, okay, I don't
think it'll be all of us,

1574
01:05:54,905 --> 01:05:56,965
but I will at least be
there for Wednesday.

1575
01:05:57,225 --> 01:06:01,285
And then it was today that
I realized how days work

1576
01:06:01,905 --> 01:06:03,845
and that I realized that I'll be driving

1577
01:06:03,905 --> 01:06:06,045
to Gainesville tonight and
these things are always like

1578
01:06:06,415 --> 01:06:09,045
seven something at night
and then it's takes a while.

1579
01:06:09,045 --> 01:06:11,565
And then, uh, and then it's,
we're never home before 10.

1580
01:06:11,705 --> 01:06:14,605
And, uh, so I'm driving to Gainesville

1581
01:06:14,605 --> 01:06:15,605
to see a concert tonight.

1582
01:06:15,605 --> 01:06:17,125
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
Wednesday day of recording

1583
01:06:17,545 --> 01:06:19,205
and then tomorrow night Yeah.

1584
01:06:19,205 --> 01:06:20,685
Jamie's like, I'm not
fucking you on <laugh>.

1585
01:06:21,065 --> 01:06:23,285
And then tomorrow night we are going

1586
01:06:23,415 --> 01:06:25,045
again for another late night.

1587
01:06:25,105 --> 01:06:29,445
And I'm just, I'm, I'm too old

1588
01:06:29,665 --> 01:06:31,645
for late nights in the middle of the week.

1589
01:06:32,005 --> 01:06:34,005
<laugh> like, just not
built that way anymore.

1590
01:06:34,225 --> 01:06:37,685
I'm going, I'm going, look,
the kid doesn't want any,

1591
01:06:37,685 --> 01:06:39,005
he doesn't even ask for fucking money.

1592
01:06:39,145 --> 01:06:40,885
He, every once in a while
was like, can you drive me

1593
01:06:40,885 --> 01:06:43,325
to a grocery store so I can
buy more than two things

1594
01:06:43,325 --> 01:06:45,085
that I can put in a backpack <laugh>.

1595
01:06:45,505 --> 01:06:47,245
And can you come to my performances?

1596
01:06:47,245 --> 01:06:49,045
And when he tells me about a performance,

1597
01:06:49,285 --> 01:06:51,405
I know he wants somebody there.

1598
01:06:52,305 --> 01:06:54,685
I'm going, I'm fucking
going. We live close enough.

1599
01:06:54,685 --> 01:06:56,365
There's no reason not to.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1600
01:06:56,505 --> 01:06:57,765
But, ah, and I'm excited.

1601
01:06:57,785 --> 01:07:01,605
Except I hate driving
in the dark these days.

1602
01:07:01,885 --> 01:07:03,885
I just, I'm, I'm,

1603
01:07:04,165 --> 01:07:05,965
I don't handle it the
way I did 20 years ago.

1604
01:07:06,205 --> 01:07:08,605
I can and I will. Yeah. I know. I, I,

1605
01:07:09,085 --> 01:07:10,045
- I, I cannot. So

1606
01:07:10,045 --> 01:07:11,045
- I'm not looking forward to that

1607
01:07:11,045 --> 01:07:11,885
- Part.

1608
01:07:11,885 --> 01:07:13,445
I I love seeing him perform. Yeah.

1609
01:07:13,965 --> 01:07:17,485
I, I love going to the concerts.
The music is, is amazing.

1610
01:07:18,945 --> 01:07:21,765
And, and the concert hall
is beautiful. Mm-Hmm.

1611
01:07:21,805 --> 01:07:23,245
<affirmative>. I, I think
it's, it's a, it's a,

1612
01:07:23,245 --> 01:07:26,085
it's a wonderful place to, to sit and,

1613
01:07:26,145 --> 01:07:28,565
and listen to, to the music and,

1614
01:07:28,665 --> 01:07:30,445
and watch everybody perform.

1615
01:07:31,185 --> 01:07:32,565
Um, but it

1616
01:07:32,995 --> 01:07:33,995
- It's
- A lot.

1617
01:07:33,995 --> 01:07:34,805
It, it is a lot.

1618
01:07:35,065 --> 01:07:38,605
And you know, the, the last
few times it's been 12,

1619
01:07:38,665 --> 01:07:41,325
one o'clock in the morning
by the time we roll home.

1620
01:07:41,695 --> 01:07:44,685
Right. And, and then get
up the next day for work.

1621
01:07:44,685 --> 01:07:46,325
Get up the next morning and, and work.

1622
01:07:46,915 --> 01:07:49,845
- Yeah.
- I, I can't, I can't do it like

1623
01:07:49,845 --> 01:07:51,045
that anymore. I just can't.

1624
01:07:51,225 --> 01:07:55,525
- No. And I, I'm, I'm not
gonna be for shit on Thursday

1625
01:07:55,545 --> 01:07:57,805
and by Friday even fucking worse.

1626
01:07:57,805 --> 01:07:59,085
Worse. Right. Like, I already know

1627
01:07:59,085 --> 01:08:00,565
that I'm gonna do it anyway.

1628
01:08:00,665 --> 01:08:03,005
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> because
he didn't ask for a lot.

1629
01:08:03,625 --> 01:08:06,365
He asked for this. I'm going,
it's, it's easy. Right.

1630
01:08:06,365 --> 01:08:07,405
It's an easy yes. For me,

1631
01:08:07,875 --> 01:08:10,685
that doesn't stop my little
anxious heart from already in my

1632
01:08:10,685 --> 01:08:12,365
head going, okay, when you
make the drive, you know

1633
01:08:12,365 --> 01:08:13,645
where you're gonna turn and you know,

1634
01:08:13,645 --> 01:08:14,725
the parking garage you're gonna go in

1635
01:08:14,725 --> 01:08:15,580
and then you, you know exactly

1636
01:08:15,580 --> 01:08:16,780
what the direction is you're gonna walk.

1637
01:08:16,825 --> 01:08:19,365
And I am not going up to the
fucking balcony to watch,

1638
01:08:19,545 --> 01:08:21,005
I'm staying on ground level.

1639
01:08:21,525 --> 01:08:23,645
'cause I don't have anybody
who loves me to catch me if

1640
01:08:23,645 --> 01:08:25,245
and when I fall down the stairs.

1641
01:08:25,745 --> 01:08:28,725
So <laugh>, I'm already
mentally mapping out the entire

1642
01:08:28,725 --> 01:08:33,445
journey so that I can stay
calm during the actual journey.

1643
01:08:33,985 --> 01:08:36,445
Um, and I've already warned
the 18-year-old, I'm like,

1644
01:08:36,445 --> 01:08:38,205
you know how we normally
like go to Culver's

1645
01:08:38,205 --> 01:08:39,445
and we do a thing and we hang out.

1646
01:08:39,665 --> 01:08:40,925
We cannot do that on Wednesday

1647
01:08:40,925 --> 01:08:42,565
because I'll be back on Thursday.

1648
01:08:42,845 --> 01:08:44,165
<laugh>. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
We could do it on

1649
01:08:44,485 --> 01:08:45,525
Thursday. Yeah. So

1650
01:08:45,825 --> 01:08:47,125
- But your haven Yes, it is.

1651
01:08:47,125 --> 01:08:48,165
That is old age that,

1652
01:08:48,275 --> 01:08:50,645
that has come round full circle from

1653
01:08:50,645 --> 01:08:51,725
when I was in my twenties.

1654
01:08:51,875 --> 01:08:53,965
Yeah. And I used to go out to the bars

1655
01:08:54,385 --> 01:08:59,165
and party all night long,
go home, change clothes

1656
01:08:59,705 --> 01:09:01,285
and go to work and go to work. Mm-Hmm.

1657
01:09:01,325 --> 01:09:03,205
- <affirmative>, I never
lived that life. <laugh>.

1658
01:09:03,285 --> 01:09:05,565
I was living like an old
lady life in my twenties,

1659
01:09:05,705 --> 01:09:10,365
but I did have more energy in

1660
01:09:10,445 --> 01:09:11,605
my twenties and Yeah.

1661
01:09:11,605 --> 01:09:13,605
And was, I've never been a free spirit,

1662
01:09:13,665 --> 01:09:17,085
but I was more willing to do
some things that I could kind

1663
01:09:17,085 --> 01:09:18,965
of pretend might have been
spontaneous even though

1664
01:09:19,025 --> 01:09:20,085
I'd been thinking about 'em for a week.

1665
01:09:20,425 --> 01:09:22,925
And I would, I would, where do
you wanna go? It's midnight.

1666
01:09:22,925 --> 01:09:24,805
Let's drive. I can go, oh,
we're doing a road trip

1667
01:09:24,825 --> 01:09:26,285
and we're gonna be on
the road for 12 hours.

1668
01:09:26,455 --> 01:09:28,085
Let's go, can do this.

1669
01:09:28,665 --> 01:09:31,725
Oh, I had to be at work at
five o'clock this morning

1670
01:09:32,025 --> 01:09:36,285
and we're gonna go for queso
and margaritas after work

1671
01:09:36,285 --> 01:09:37,645
and not gonna get done till midnight.

1672
01:09:37,755 --> 01:09:41,685
Cool. They're gonna do the damn thing that

1673
01:09:41,715 --> 01:09:43,845
that girl does not exist anymore.

1674
01:09:43,905 --> 01:09:46,485
- She is tired back,
back in the same days.

1675
01:09:46,925 --> 01:09:50,325
I would, um, drive from

1676
01:09:50,835 --> 01:09:52,485
when I lived in Tampa Bay at that time

1677
01:09:53,225 --> 01:09:57,165
to upstate New York 22
hours from start to finish.

1678
01:09:57,275 --> 01:10:00,725
Yeah. No, I, I couldn't even No.

1679
01:10:00,895 --> 01:10:02,245
Think about doing that anymore.

1680
01:10:02,355 --> 01:10:06,285
- Road trips these days are
max drive for eight hours.

1681
01:10:06,425 --> 01:10:08,725
We will have taken an hour
break every time we stop.

1682
01:10:08,755 --> 01:10:12,365
Plus the pee and the standup
breaks in between and Yeah.

1683
01:10:12,365 --> 01:10:13,365
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1684
01:10:13,385 --> 01:10:14,965
No, I totally get it. Not put there

1685
01:10:14,965 --> 01:10:15,965
- Anymore.

1686
01:10:15,965 --> 01:10:16,445
But, uh, it, it was hilarious.

1687
01:10:16,825 --> 01:10:19,365
I'd, you know, when I'd leave
like three o'clock in the

1688
01:10:19,365 --> 01:10:21,685
morning and,

1689
01:10:21,825 --> 01:10:24,365
and that would, I, I did that

1690
01:10:24,365 --> 01:10:28,765
because that would put me
in the sweet time to, uh,

1691
01:10:29,305 --> 01:10:31,405
get through Washington.

1692
01:10:31,745 --> 01:10:34,485
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> <laugh>
without hitting rush hour.

1693
01:10:34,585 --> 01:10:39,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
But, um, I'd, I'd get a,

1694
01:10:39,565 --> 01:10:41,365
a thermos of coffee Mm-Hmm.

1695
01:10:41,405 --> 01:10:42,925
<affirmative> to start out with

1696
01:10:43,625 --> 01:10:46,245
and a bag full of snacks
that I could just munch

1697
01:10:46,245 --> 01:10:48,805
as I'm driving and off I would go.

1698
01:10:49,285 --> 01:10:51,965
- I, there have been times,
I did not have the luxury

1699
01:10:51,985 --> 01:10:56,165
of this, but my road trips
we're gonna, when I was 20

1700
01:10:56,745 --> 01:10:59,845
and now I'm 40 something, we
gonna stop for a drinky drink.

1701
01:11:00,365 --> 01:11:03,765
<laugh>, I'll bring snacks
for when we're in a place

1702
01:11:03,765 --> 01:11:05,045
where we literally cannot stop,

1703
01:11:05,045 --> 01:11:06,565
but I'm going to buy a snacky snack.

1704
01:11:06,625 --> 01:11:09,965
We are stopping for at
least one meal on the road.

1705
01:11:11,285 --> 01:11:13,325
I minimum one meal.

1706
01:11:13,985 --> 01:11:18,965
Um, <laugh>, I don't, I don't
need a lot of bathroom breaks.

1707
01:11:19,225 --> 01:11:21,845
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, uh,
I don't need currently a lot

1708
01:11:21,845 --> 01:11:23,605
of breaks to just stand
and stretch my legs.

1709
01:11:23,905 --> 01:11:25,605
I'm happy to be in the car for 12 hours,

1710
01:11:25,635 --> 01:11:27,005
like the length of driving that day.

1711
01:11:27,005 --> 01:11:30,765
Right. But we will stop for
drinking drinks. Mm-Hmm.

1712
01:11:30,805 --> 01:11:31,965
<affirmative>, we will stop for snacks.

1713
01:11:31,985 --> 01:11:33,325
We will stop for a meal. Yep.

1714
01:11:33,725 --> 01:11:36,165
I had lived the life as a
kid of getting in the car

1715
01:11:36,165 --> 01:11:38,085
for the road trip with,
especially my grandparents.

1716
01:11:38,205 --> 01:11:40,045
I used to go on all kinds of
trips with them, road trips

1717
01:11:40,045 --> 01:11:41,245
with them as a kid.

1718
01:11:41,625 --> 01:11:44,965
And we were the family that
pulled under the overpass

1719
01:11:45,345 --> 01:11:47,005
and, uh, ate our bologna

1720
01:11:47,005 --> 01:11:49,005
and cheese sandwiches on
the side of the highway

1721
01:11:49,875 --> 01:11:51,325
because there was no stopping.

1722
01:11:51,325 --> 01:11:53,165
There was no getting snacky snacks. Yeah.

1723
01:11:53,165 --> 01:11:54,445
Nobody was going to lunch. Right.

1724
01:11:54,845 --> 01:11:57,845
<laugh> uh, <laugh> and I mean,

1725
01:11:59,005 --> 01:12:00,405
I didn't love it then.

1726
01:12:00,785 --> 01:12:03,245
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, I've
always been a drinky drink.

1727
01:12:03,265 --> 01:12:04,485
Snacky snack kind of girl.

1728
01:12:05,065 --> 01:12:07,845
Um, but I, there was something
about it as I got older

1729
01:12:07,845 --> 01:12:11,725
that I was like, if I, if
I can't, if I can't just,

1730
01:12:11,875 --> 01:12:13,325
even if it's just McDonald's

1731
01:12:13,325 --> 01:12:14,805
and it's the dollar menu, y'all,

1732
01:12:15,105 --> 01:12:17,525
if I can't go get something,

1733
01:12:17,565 --> 01:12:18,685
I don't want to go on the road trip.

1734
01:12:19,225 --> 01:12:23,765
I'm, I'm no longer built
for. Yeah. No. It's a luxury.

1735
01:12:23,825 --> 01:12:27,165
To me. It's a luxury. Now would
I do a road trip if I didn't

1736
01:12:27,365 --> 01:12:28,805
have the money and I had
to bring my own snacks?

1737
01:12:28,845 --> 01:12:32,005
I had to bring my own drinks
'cause I had to get to a place

1738
01:12:32,385 --> 01:12:33,765
and couldn't catch a flight.

1739
01:12:33,865 --> 01:12:35,405
Yes. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
that's different. Yeah.

1740
01:12:35,405 --> 01:12:38,405
But if I we're calling this a
vacation, a trip, I'm choosing

1741
01:12:38,425 --> 01:12:40,565
to do this, then we are budgeting in Yeah.

1742
01:12:40,825 --> 01:12:43,085
My dunking and my diet
Coke. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>

1743
01:12:43,985 --> 01:12:45,845
- And I, I don't know if it's the same now

1744
01:12:45,845 --> 01:12:48,605
because I haven't looked and
I've not really had any reason

1745
01:12:48,665 --> 01:12:50,005
to or desire.

1746
01:12:50,265 --> 01:12:53,365
But um, you know, then there,
there came a point where

1747
01:12:54,145 --> 01:12:57,725
air flight up to New York
was way cheaper than Oh sure.

1748
01:12:57,825 --> 01:13:00,045
The gas and, and wear
and tear and driving Jet

1749
01:13:00,045 --> 01:13:01,125
- Blue spirit. Yeah. Those place,

1750
01:13:01,245 --> 01:13:03,885
- I mean, so, you know, and you know, two

1751
01:13:03,905 --> 01:13:06,085
and a half hours as compo compared

1752
01:13:06,145 --> 01:13:08,845
to 22, 23 hours driving. Right. Yeah.

1753
01:13:09,285 --> 01:13:12,165
- I never, when I finally
started flying for any reason,

1754
01:13:13,045 --> 01:13:15,925
I never got to go to a place
that was a straight shot.

1755
01:13:16,685 --> 01:13:18,205
'cause I never lived really in a place

1756
01:13:18,205 --> 01:13:19,485
where you could get a straight shot.

1757
01:13:20,145 --> 01:13:24,885
So it wasn't technically, uh,

1758
01:13:26,345 --> 01:13:30,085
you know, a couple hours
flying time total to get

1759
01:13:30,625 --> 01:13:31,885
to the place I wanted to go.

1760
01:13:31,885 --> 01:13:33,125
Sure. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
But what we had

1761
01:13:33,125 --> 01:13:36,525
to do first was leave from wherever, uh,

1762
01:13:36,525 --> 01:13:40,205
completely bypass the location,
go to a further out airport,

1763
01:13:40,935 --> 01:13:43,285
maybe Atlanta, maybe Charlotte,

1764
01:13:43,665 --> 01:13:45,245
and then come back down to

1765
01:13:45,245 --> 01:13:46,805
where we were trying to go <laugh>.

1766
01:13:47,195 --> 01:13:49,885
Including I think if I
recall even in Florida

1767
01:13:50,705 --> 01:13:51,765
to make the connecting flight.

1768
01:13:52,105 --> 01:13:53,845
So what could have been
an eight hour drive

1769
01:13:54,345 --> 01:13:55,685
and was technically maybe two hours

1770
01:13:55,685 --> 01:13:57,685
of flight time was still an eight hour

1771
01:13:57,705 --> 01:13:58,725
day because of light over

1772
01:13:59,085 --> 01:13:59,605
- <laugh>. So

1773
01:14:00,245 --> 01:14:01,245
- I dunno.

1774
01:14:01,305 --> 01:14:02,305
But if it was cheaper.

1775
01:14:03,475 --> 01:14:06,005
- Yeah.
- The thing is, we don't really,

1776
01:14:06,065 --> 01:14:07,725
we don't travel anymore.

1777
01:14:07,925 --> 01:14:08,965
I mean, there's the money thing and

1778
01:14:08,965 --> 01:14:10,085
there's the where do we want to go?

1779
01:14:10,545 --> 01:14:11,845
And once Covid hit

1780
01:14:11,845 --> 01:14:14,445
and there, there wasn't
really going anywhere.

1781
01:14:14,505 --> 01:14:18,685
We just, we have places we
definitely want to go. Yeah.

1782
01:14:19,185 --> 01:14:24,005
And um, you know, we've talked
about it, we've thought it

1783
01:14:24,005 --> 01:14:25,245
through, we've even priced it out.

1784
01:14:26,515 --> 01:14:28,765
It's just, just not an option. Mm-Hmm.

1785
01:14:28,805 --> 01:14:31,525
<affirmative> right now.
So we, no, we don't Mm-Hmm.

1786
01:14:31,565 --> 01:14:33,205
<affirmative>. But,

1787
01:14:34,465 --> 01:14:36,965
but I do still remember
I'd be like, okay, it's a,

1788
01:14:38,125 --> 01:14:40,245
a Friday afternoon, maybe
I got off work early.

1789
01:14:40,245 --> 01:14:41,285
Maybe I took the day off.

1790
01:14:41,735 --> 01:14:43,045
Where, where are we going this weekend?

1791
01:14:43,055 --> 01:14:44,765
Let's just get in the car.
And I would just drive,

1792
01:14:45,085 --> 01:14:46,765
I don't know who that girl is anymore.

1793
01:14:48,165 --> 01:14:49,965
I mean, but I still Yeah.

1794
01:14:49,965 --> 01:14:50,965
That was when you could still get your

1795
01:14:50,965 --> 01:14:52,085
Diet Coke for a dollar though.

1796
01:14:52,525 --> 01:14:56,965
<laugh>. And there was a dollar
menu at McDonald's. Yeah.

1797
01:14:57,145 --> 01:14:59,645
Or wherever. So I you could do it for,

1798
01:14:59,785 --> 01:15:01,765
and gas was under $2 a gallon or whatever.

1799
01:15:01,765 --> 01:15:03,365
Like, it was just easier. Yeah.

1800
01:15:03,865 --> 01:15:08,445
But, so anyway,

1801
01:15:09,505 --> 01:15:11,485
um, what else is going on with us?

1802
01:15:11,845 --> 01:15:12,845
Anything? Um,

1803
01:15:15,505 --> 01:15:16,505
- Not that I can think.

1804
01:15:16,875 --> 01:15:18,245
- Just same old, same old. Yeah.

1805
01:15:19,065 --> 01:15:21,205
The youngest is being the youngest.

1806
01:15:21,265 --> 01:15:23,525
The oldest is performing his brains out

1807
01:15:23,545 --> 01:15:25,485
and, and we're working.

1808
01:15:25,745 --> 01:15:28,885
So Ta Lola is snoring
in the background Yep.

1809
01:15:29,065 --> 01:15:30,405
As if she has worked a double

1810
01:15:31,265 --> 01:15:32,565
and I don't know where the cats are,

1811
01:15:32,625 --> 01:15:34,365
but they're probably wreaking

1812
01:15:34,375 --> 01:15:35,925
havoc wherever they are. Right,

1813
01:15:35,925 --> 01:15:36,925
- Right.

1814
01:15:36,925 --> 01:15:37,525
They're too quiet. <laugh>,

1815
01:15:37,525 --> 01:15:38,525
- They're too quiet.

1816
01:15:38,955 --> 01:15:42,805
They are too quiet. They are too quiet.

1817
01:15:43,345 --> 01:15:44,605
- Yes, indeed.
- Um,

1818
01:15:44,985 --> 01:15:46,645
and it's starting to
warm up in this office.

1819
01:15:46,905 --> 01:15:48,205
It is. And, uh,

1820
01:15:48,355 --> 01:15:51,005
this perimenopausal person
is not starting to feel it.

1821
01:15:51,005 --> 01:15:53,685
Huh. Is not loving it. So I think

1822
01:15:55,185 --> 01:15:56,645
that's a good sign that maybe

1823
01:15:56,825 --> 01:15:59,245
- That's a good place to, to
- We should be done.

1824
01:15:59,435 --> 01:16:02,365
Yeah. Okay. All right. Um,
thanks for being here with us.

1825
01:16:02,365 --> 01:16:03,685
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
especially if you stay

1826
01:16:03,685 --> 01:16:06,085
to the bitter end, um, for anybody

1827
01:16:06,085 --> 01:16:07,565
who asked your question,
thank you for that.

1828
01:16:07,825 --> 01:16:10,765
Uh, we appreciate that. Um, we don't do Q

1829
01:16:10,765 --> 01:16:11,965
and as that often anymore

1830
01:16:11,965 --> 01:16:13,965
because we do a q and A every week now.

1831
01:16:13,965 --> 01:16:16,645
Right. So, um Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
But this was fun. Yeah.

1832
01:16:16,705 --> 01:16:18,485
And yeah. May maybe we'll
be on break next week.

1833
01:16:18,725 --> 01:16:20,885
I don't fucking know. I'll let
you know as soon as I know.

1834
01:16:20,955 --> 01:16:23,925
Yeah. So. Okay. All
right. That's it for us.

1835
01:16:24,425 --> 01:16:25,125
- Bye. Bye.

