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- You are listening to
the Loving BDSM podcast,

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episode 3 83.

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Okay. The Lord's here with
the one, the only, the,

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there's never enough caffeine.

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We know you need more.
You're probably exhausted.

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You didn't get enough
sleep, John Brownstone.

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- Yeah. Not same day. You
know, same shit every day.

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<laugh> same shit every
day. That's right. Yeah.

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There you go. See, I
can't even get that out.

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- Something's never changed.
- <laugh>, <laugh>.

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- Hey, look, I personally
like, dependable, reliable.

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I know how it's gonna be.

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And even if that's that
you're under caffeinated

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and overly tired, at least
I know how to handle that.

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<laugh> carefully is the
answer. If you don't, <laugh>.

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Yeah. It's a little bit like, uh,

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poking the sleeping and bear.

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You just, you gotta be careful of that.

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- Be careful.
- So if I'm gonna poke him,

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I better have a coffee
in the other hand, poke

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with one hand, offer the
caffeine and the other <laugh>.

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That is not at all what
we're talking about

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this week, as usual.

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We've already gone off the rails. Yep.

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This week we're actually
gonna do what I keep,

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my brain keeps calling
like a state of the union.

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Yeah. But for our power
exchange relationship,

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- State of the power exchange.

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- State of the power exchange.
State of our power exchange.

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Yeah. Uh, we do not speak for
all power exchanges. Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative>, uh, your results
will always vary. <laugh>.

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Yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna

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kind of check in with one another.

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Uh, see how we're doing. Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative>, uh, <laugh>
somehow, I think is

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as always gonna be a, a wild ride.

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Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to
the Loving BDSM podcast.

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This is your first time
listening. Glad to have you.

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All links are in the
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So the first thing, I'm, we
got a couple announcements.

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First one, I'm just gonna remind you,

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we're in the last week-ish,

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depending on when you listen
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This of our Patreon membership drive, uh,

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our Patreon community
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what keeps the lights on
and the cameras going.

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So if you've got it to spare

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and want to do it, consider
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Um, if you join by February 15th,

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Late March, early April-ish.

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You just have to be a paying
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Um, and yeah, patreon.com/kill
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I mean, I, I feel like I've
said the Patreon link so often

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that anybody who's a a repeat
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could probably say it
with me at this point.

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<laugh>, uh, the next thing,

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and, uh, arguably one of
the most important things

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of the day, Mm-Hmm, <affirmative>,
is that I would like

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to thank our sponsor.

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Educated. Yay. Yay. We
love education. Yeah.

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Especially about sex and kink.
Yay. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

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So, if you're not familiar with educated,

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'cause you're new here, and I

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Uh, educated is an online
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Do I wish they had a bigger
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Am I impressed with what they have?

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And the fact that the classes
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who know what the hell
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And it's legitimately helpful
stuff. Yes. Yes. <laugh>.

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So they're running a Valentine's
Day special right now.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, if you
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off, um, which half off is,
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if they have the classes you want.

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and you've paid for your
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it's a 14 day money back guarantee.

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Nice. So you're not stuck if it,

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you find out it's not for you.

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Now, some of us celebrate Valentine's

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'cause we're those kinds
of people, some of us,

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even if we're partnered up, are like,

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fuck that fake holiday.

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I don't know who you are,
but I think there's something

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for you, regardless of who you are.

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So, if you're like all relationship up

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and you're all feeling all
romantic, there's all kinds

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of classes you can take with a partner.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> to enhance things.

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And, you know, if we're
enhancing sexually,

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there's oral sex classes, both bits.

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Okay. Tab A, slot B, you can
get skills there, <laugh>.

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Okay. There's a pegging, uh,

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class plus a just strap on play class,

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which I'm sure is gonna talk
about elements of pegging,

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but also elements that are not pegging.

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Um, what else? What else,
what else? ChAARI wax play.

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Um, just rough sex, kinky sex spanking.

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What Whatever is floating your boat.

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- What, what a great
way to spend some time

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and kink up your life and
learn some things. Right?

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- Yeah. And even if you're
signaling, you're like,

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fuck this Valentine's shit.

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But you're like, but, but
there's some shit I'd like to,

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I'd like to know how to do
the next time I'm hooking up

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with whoever I'm hooking up with.

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There's stuff for you too.

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I'm just saying, I'm just saying now,

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if you are feeling all romantic

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and you're like, Ooh, I
wanna, I wanna improve my

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relationship, and I've already
watched whatever the dumpster

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fire is, it's gonna be the State

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of the Union episode, <laugh>.

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And I would like to do
it better than that.

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Then you've got classes on
communication and intimacy

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and vulnerability and connection

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and y'all, so use the link
in the places YouTube,

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that's description box podcast listeners.

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That's, uh, what's it called? Show notes.

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Uh, use our link, go and do the thing.

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for their Valentine's Day special sale.

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Yeah. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
And, uh, thanks to educator

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for not only sponsoring us this time,

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chaotic as fuck <laugh>.

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I keep saying I wanna be a professional

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and then I keep not being one.

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And so I feel like I just need to like,

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give it up. And I think I've said that

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- Before too.

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So, so are you, are you professionally

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being non-professional?

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Oh, no. Is that what it

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- No, no, no, no.

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<laugh>. I feel like
I'm trying and failing.

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And so periodically I go, I give up

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and then I'll get a little
bit of optimism back

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and I'll try again and

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- Get a second wind. Yeah.

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- <laugh> or a a 53rd, you know,

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whatever, whatever, whatever.

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let's see what, oh, that was it.

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Okay. Again, thank you.
Educated. We appreciate that.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Um, so this episode,

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I, my brain, I keep thinking State

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of the union 'cause I'm American.

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I don't know if other
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of speech or refer to
themselves as the union.

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I know, I know we do.

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but it's like, it's the state of the union

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of our power exchange.

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Um, and we've done
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We did it back in 2022.

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We called check, called it checking

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in on our power exchange.

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how you can do a relationship.

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Check-in. And in that
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and watch or listen to any of it.

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But I think we were in, we were stressed

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'cause that's how we live our life now.

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But I think we were in
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that it was kind of organized.

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'cause I looked at the
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we actually broke it up by sections.

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Parenting business, our
kink life. I was like, wow.

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Look at us. We were attempting
to be professional there.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, <laugh>,
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to mind as a topic.

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Just you, in my opinion, you
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with one another in your power exchange.

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It's more about how we're
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I mean, it's about what's
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but I think it's more about

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how we're feeling about what's
happening or not happening.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. At
least that's how I'm feeling.

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And I'm happy to do this topic.

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I'm a little afraid the
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a single layer of cells that separates

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my emotions from the breakdown

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that I don't have time to take.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So I don't

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know what this is gonna be like.

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I hope I'm laughing and
being ridiculous throughout,

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but I might be in the fetal position

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and crying under the table.

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I don't know. I don't know
what's gonna happen. <laugh>.

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I don't know. So part of this is, uh,

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is it therapeutic for us?

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Yes. Yes. I think it might
be. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

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Um, I do not think that
anybody needs to mimic

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anything about our, our power exchange.

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'cause it's gotta be unique to everybody.

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So this isn't meant to be a Oh,

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whatever we end up talking about.

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And I did write down questions to try

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and keep myself on track.

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Thanks. Um, it's more of a,
Hey, here's your reminder

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to make sure at some point
you're doing your own check-in,

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in your own relationships.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> long
term. Yeah. New doesn't matter.

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Uh, the newer, the relationship to me,

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and I know I think you agree,

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the more often there should be check-ins.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. We don't
usually schedule check-ins

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anymore because we try to be
consistently communicating.

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But sometimes you just, you
just need a, a, a bigger,

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broader conversation.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you
need to like, plan it out.

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Set a time, make time for it.

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Do your best to eliminate
distractions. Ironic.

241
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Because my greatest
distraction is my own brain.

242
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So I don't know what we're
gonna do there. Yeah.

243
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Uh, <laugh> and just like
discuss the state of your union,

244
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whatever union it may be.

245
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Um, and so I'm gonna
take a big sip of coffee

246
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and we're gonna, we're gonna do this.

247
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Um, I did link to the 2022 episode

248
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where we did an org organized ish one.

249
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Yeah. Um, that I think is
more of a good template

250
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if you're like, what, what
are these kinds of check-ins?

251
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What, what might they be? Like,
that one's a a decent one.

252
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I think I have a feeling
that if we had to go back

253
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and listen to anything we said in 2022,

254
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we would laugh our fucking asses off.

255
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Because what did Hopeful 2022 us know

256
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that we know better now?

257
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2020 more.

258
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- Yeah.
- So I've got a series of questions

259
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and I'll just put it
out there and you start.

260
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'cause I know I suck up all the oxygen

261
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and then I'll, I'll probably
interrupt the fuck outta you.

262
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Uh, I, state of the union first question,

263
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from your perspective,
how are we doing <laugh>?

264
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I I'm thinking specifically
power exchange,

265
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but you can go wherever
you need to go with that

266
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- Question. <laugh>,

267
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- How are we doing?

268
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- Wow. Um, oh boy. <laugh>. Oh boy. I,

269
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- I'm filled with faith that
whatever is coming out of, uh,

270
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out of your mouth Next

271
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- <laugh>.

272
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Um, overall we're doing well,

273
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I think, um, I think
the, the big clincher is

274
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that we have had a couple of, of,

275
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um, life changes.

276
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- Mm. Yeah.
- Okay.

277
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And, and that has thrown a
major monkey wrench, <laugh>

278
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in the things that we do.

279
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And, um, at this point in time,

280
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we really haven't found
a way through it yet.

281
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- No, no. We're in a, we're
in a pretty big transition

282
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of part of our life.

283
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Right. That's not our kink
life. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

284
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It's just our, our our every
other part of life. Yeah.

285
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And we don't know what
that really looks like.

286
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And there's unknowns

287
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and there's decisions
that have to be made.

288
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And I don't know if anybody

289
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has noticed I don't do well with change.

290
00:12:27,785 --> 00:12:28,965
No, you don don't. Unless it's change.

291
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I want, like, if I'm like,
yes, let's do the thing.

292
00:12:31,125 --> 00:12:32,125
I mean, I'm still gonna struggle.

293
00:12:32,265 --> 00:12:34,845
- That's true.
- But I'm like, I get the dopamine hit

294
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of this is a thing I wanna do.

295
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Let's go do the thing. I'm excited.

296
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This is one where there
were no good options

297
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and this was the best of Yeah.

298
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Not great options. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

299
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And we haven't found our groove No.

300
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And is the personal side
of life with parenting

301
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and childcare and taking
care of the 14-year-old

302
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and some things that he needs Right.

303
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To be healthy and whole. Mm-Hmm.

304
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<affirmative> and hopefully
eventually happy. Yeah.

305
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But we have done what we needed to do

306
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and life has fundamentally shifted.

307
00:13:02,265 --> 00:13:05,085
And Excuse me, I realized,
oh, about 30 seconds

308
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before we, we sat down
to, to do the episode

309
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that I was like, oh, oh, that's right.

310
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I really, I really don't
do well when I don't have a

311
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routine or my routine changes.

312
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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
And I feel very unmoored

313
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from fucking everything.

314
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And I, it, it sends me on
my own little crazy train

315
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and, uh, <laugh>.

316
00:13:26,625 --> 00:13:28,165
But I have to spend like a few weeks

317
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denying that and going, I'm fine.

318
00:13:29,445 --> 00:13:32,445
Yeah. I'm fine, I'm fine.
And then finally Yeah.

319
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Admitting no, I'm no fine.

320
00:13:34,805 --> 00:13:37,885
- I mean there, there,
there are people who, and,

321
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and I am in shock and awe of them.

322
00:13:42,785 --> 00:13:44,445
Uh, people who embrace change,

323
00:13:46,725 --> 00:13:47,725
- I feel like a weirdo.

324
00:13:47,725 --> 00:13:48,925
'cause I'll tell you on one, one side

325
00:13:48,925 --> 00:13:50,205
of my mouth, I fucking hate change.

326
00:13:50,205 --> 00:13:51,525
And the next side of
my mouth, I'm gonna go.

327
00:13:51,525 --> 00:13:53,805
But if I choose the
change, it's so exciting.

328
00:13:53,805 --> 00:13:55,125
Yeah. Let's go do the change.

329
00:13:55,275 --> 00:13:58,805
- Yeah. And, um, you know, it's, uh,

330
00:14:01,445 --> 00:14:03,045
I mean change change is inevitable.

331
00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:05,565
It's gonna happen, but you know it.

332
00:14:05,835 --> 00:14:09,445
- Yeah. I think I, I think what we are,

333
00:14:09,905 --> 00:14:11,565
you're better at than I am, I think,

334
00:14:12,025 --> 00:14:15,125
and you're pretty good at
doing it for me, is accepting

335
00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:17,645
that the transition part is, is difficult.

336
00:14:17,645 --> 00:14:20,245
Even if we, we did choose
it. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

337
00:14:20,245 --> 00:14:22,365
But like I said, best option
out of not great ones.

338
00:14:22,365 --> 00:14:24,845
- Right.
- You know, there's still that,

339
00:14:25,515 --> 00:14:28,965
that time from the time
you decide on the change,

340
00:14:28,985 --> 00:14:31,245
and then the time you implement it to the

341
00:14:31,435 --> 00:14:33,725
however long it takes Mm-Hmm.

342
00:14:33,765 --> 00:14:36,485
<affirmative> settle in and go,
okay, this is the new normal

343
00:14:36,545 --> 00:14:38,925
and I know how this works and you

344
00:14:38,925 --> 00:14:40,285
know, I can figure this out.

345
00:14:40,285 --> 00:14:43,405
Right now, everything is new and unknown

346
00:14:43,585 --> 00:14:45,565
and there's, you know, on our, that part

347
00:14:45,565 --> 00:14:46,765
of our personal life, there's a lot

348
00:14:46,765 --> 00:14:48,765
of unanswered questions,
which does not help.

349
00:14:48,915 --> 00:14:52,885
Yeah. Um, and it does take up,
I know from my perspective,

350
00:14:53,865 --> 00:14:56,045
95% of my time and energy.

351
00:14:56,175 --> 00:14:57,485
Right. It's, and it's, it,

352
00:14:57,685 --> 00:15:00,045
I hate making it sound like it's a problem

353
00:15:00,475 --> 00:15:02,605
because it's the kid.

354
00:15:02,925 --> 00:15:06,565
I will, I will give him 110%
of my time and energy. Mm-Hmm.

355
00:15:06,605 --> 00:15:07,845
<affirmative> for what he needs.

356
00:15:08,185 --> 00:15:10,725
But when I'm thinking
about it in terms of, okay,

357
00:15:10,725 --> 00:15:12,205
what's happening with our power exchange?

358
00:15:12,205 --> 00:15:14,005
What's happening with
our relationship Mm-Hmm.

359
00:15:14,045 --> 00:15:15,325
<affirmative> what's happening
with everything else we do,

360
00:15:16,145 --> 00:15:20,285
you know, it's, I, as anybody would

361
00:15:21,065 --> 00:15:23,525
assume, it takes away from that

362
00:15:23,525 --> 00:15:25,485
because our energy just
needs to be somewhere

363
00:15:25,485 --> 00:15:26,485
- Else.

364
00:15:26,485 --> 00:15:27,165
Be, be elsewhere. And, and I think that

365
00:15:27,165 --> 00:15:28,685
that's a good part of it.

366
00:15:29,185 --> 00:15:33,085
Um, because, you know, in, in all honesty,

367
00:15:33,145 --> 00:15:37,805
you are doing things for
him that I just can't,

368
00:15:39,315 --> 00:15:42,885
- Weirdly, I think I can't
either, but it's gotta be

369
00:15:43,245 --> 00:15:44,245
- <laugh>.

370
00:15:44,245 --> 00:15:44,365
Yeah. And,

371
00:15:44,705 --> 00:15:49,325
and you know, I have
just kind of stepped back

372
00:15:49,505 --> 00:15:51,125
to let you Mm-Hmm.

373
00:15:51,165 --> 00:15:55,605
<affirmative> do that and,
and be as supportive as I can.

374
00:15:55,905 --> 00:15:57,405
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-Hmm.

375
00:15:57,445 --> 00:15:58,565
<affirmative>, which has meant a lot

376
00:15:58,565 --> 00:15:59,645
of diet cokes and coffee

377
00:16:00,325 --> 00:16:01,325
- <laugh>.

378
00:16:01,325 --> 00:16:01,845
Yeah. You don't really flinch when

379
00:16:01,845 --> 00:16:02,965
I'm, we're out running errands.

380
00:16:02,965 --> 00:16:05,685
I'm like, but also, can we
stop? I need a diet coke. Right.

381
00:16:05,995 --> 00:16:08,085
Also, I'm gonna stop and get
us some coffee this morning.

382
00:16:08,275 --> 00:16:10,085
Yeah. Do you want one? 'cause Yeah.

383
00:16:10,145 --> 00:16:11,565
We as in me is getting one. Yeah.

384
00:16:11,665 --> 00:16:15,125
I'm, I, uh, where I can,
I, I indulge myself 'cause

385
00:16:15,555 --> 00:16:16,245
- Yeah. You

386
00:16:16,345 --> 00:16:17,685
- Use what you can to get through. So,

387
00:16:17,905 --> 00:16:18,905
- So, you know Yeah.

388
00:16:18,905 --> 00:16:20,405
At that point, at

389
00:16:23,475 --> 00:16:25,965
between that and other
things that are happening.

390
00:16:26,635 --> 00:16:28,405
- Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- Yeah. <laugh> with, with,

391
00:16:28,405 --> 00:16:29,965
with us, you know, that, that with

392
00:16:29,965 --> 00:16:30,965
- Us. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-Hmm.

393
00:16:31,005 --> 00:16:34,325
- <affirmative>, um,
you know, other than our

394
00:16:35,745 --> 00:16:37,405
normal day to day routine.

395
00:16:38,015 --> 00:16:39,015
Right,

396
00:16:39,455 --> 00:16:40,455
- Right.

397
00:16:40,545 --> 00:16:43,325
- You know, outside of that,
there has not been much,

398
00:16:43,685 --> 00:16:45,405
- I have to say, when it
comes to our power exchange.

399
00:16:45,725 --> 00:16:48,525
I, and we'll get into it,
I think I want more than

400
00:16:48,555 --> 00:16:50,325
what we can do right now.

401
00:16:50,325 --> 00:16:51,685
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
I want more than kind of

402
00:16:51,685 --> 00:16:54,125
what we have in terms
of our power exchange.

403
00:16:54,155 --> 00:16:55,885
Yeah. I understand why we can't.

404
00:16:55,965 --> 00:16:57,045
I look forward to a time

405
00:16:57,065 --> 00:16:59,365
and hope that that time
occurs when we can.

406
00:17:00,425 --> 00:17:04,765
But I am grateful for the routine that we,

407
00:17:04,985 --> 00:17:08,485
and the, the way we set up our Mm-Hmm.

408
00:17:08,525 --> 00:17:10,205
<affirmative> dynamic. Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative> the actual day

409
00:17:10,205 --> 00:17:12,325
to day of it years ago.

410
00:17:12,325 --> 00:17:16,965
Because when everything else is, is

411
00:17:16,995 --> 00:17:19,885
what it is, I can rely on that.

412
00:17:19,905 --> 00:17:22,165
Yes. Which is why then, and
then this, here's what happens.

413
00:17:22,225 --> 00:17:23,405
So there's a lot going on.

414
00:17:23,665 --> 00:17:27,565
I'm, my focus is pulled in a
multiple directions. Mm-Hmm.

415
00:17:27,605 --> 00:17:28,805
<affirmative>. But big chunk

416
00:17:28,805 --> 00:17:30,885
of my focus is just on
being a mom right now.

417
00:17:31,585 --> 00:17:35,805
Um, and so what happens is,
like when I forget a task

418
00:17:35,865 --> 00:17:39,565
or I don't do it correctly,
it's devastating.

419
00:17:39,765 --> 00:17:42,405
'cause I'm like, this
is all I have right now

420
00:17:42,705 --> 00:17:44,765
and I cannot do it.

421
00:17:44,765 --> 00:17:47,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
or I can't do it. Well,

422
00:17:47,515 --> 00:17:48,515
- Yeah.

423
00:17:48,865 --> 00:17:50,125
- Oh, I'm sorry, y'all

424
00:17:54,785 --> 00:17:56,155
told you it was right under the surface.

425
00:17:56,575 --> 00:18:00,915
Woo. So yeah.

426
00:18:00,915 --> 00:18:02,675
That's how, that's how I'm doing <laugh>.

427
00:18:04,185 --> 00:18:08,555
- Yeah. So, you know. Yeah.

428
00:18:08,825 --> 00:18:11,875
It's, it's, it's made it,
it's made it difficult.

429
00:18:12,295 --> 00:18:16,995
Um, and, you know, yes.

430
00:18:16,995 --> 00:18:21,075
Having, having our routines
to fall back on in,

431
00:18:21,215 --> 00:18:24,195
in all the chaos that has
been going on has at least,

432
00:18:26,255 --> 00:18:29,315
you know, giving us a baseline to run on,

433
00:18:29,735 --> 00:18:30,735
- So to speak.

434
00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:31,715
Yeah. We have that to
fall back on. Like Yeah.

435
00:18:33,535 --> 00:18:35,355
You were always the decider.

436
00:18:35,355 --> 00:18:37,755
We've had to make a
lot of non k, non kink,

437
00:18:37,785 --> 00:18:39,555
non-BAR exchange decisions lately.

438
00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:42,515
Yeah. And ultimately,
you're the final word.

439
00:18:43,565 --> 00:18:44,795
We're in step, I mean,

440
00:18:44,795 --> 00:18:46,195
there's not been a decision made lately

441
00:18:46,195 --> 00:18:47,235
that we're not in step on.

442
00:18:47,335 --> 00:18:49,995
We Right. We might disagree
on how to get to a place,

443
00:18:50,015 --> 00:18:51,555
but we we're in sync on

444
00:18:51,805 --> 00:18:53,195
where we're going and
what we're trying to do.

445
00:18:53,195 --> 00:18:56,355
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Um, and so that helps.

446
00:18:56,855 --> 00:19:01,115
And I just, to the best of
my ability, I keep up with,

447
00:19:02,015 --> 00:19:04,955
you know, my regular tasks and, um Mm-Hmm.

448
00:19:04,995 --> 00:19:06,075
<affirmative>. And that's,

449
00:19:06,505 --> 00:19:09,315
it's like when there's nothing
else, that's something.

450
00:19:09,655 --> 00:19:10,655
Yes.

451
00:19:10,935 --> 00:19:13,275
- Yes.
- Okay.

452
00:19:13,595 --> 00:19:16,235
- <laugh>, you know, and,
uh, I, I think right now,

453
00:19:16,575 --> 00:19:21,195
you know, I, I look forward

454
00:19:21,335 --> 00:19:24,115
to us doing things like running errands

455
00:19:24,115 --> 00:19:26,395
and things like that to escape

456
00:19:26,455 --> 00:19:28,035
and have some time

457
00:19:30,795 --> 00:19:33,035
together, if that makes any sense.

458
00:19:33,545 --> 00:19:36,635
- It's funny because I agree, you know,

459
00:19:37,085 --> 00:19:40,355
we're gonna make a little road
trip on Saturday to go by.

460
00:19:40,455 --> 00:19:41,955
Yes. Micah Pigment.

461
00:19:42,235 --> 00:19:44,635
- <laugh> <laugh>. Right.
- Because we wanna go into the

462
00:19:44,635 --> 00:19:45,675
store and look at the colors

463
00:19:45,695 --> 00:19:47,035
and make sure we're
getting the colors we want.

464
00:19:47,035 --> 00:19:49,075
Right. Um, and it's an
hour and a half drive,

465
00:19:49,535 --> 00:19:51,275
and the 14-year-old is looking forward

466
00:19:51,295 --> 00:19:52,755
to his few hours of solitude.

467
00:19:53,495 --> 00:19:54,515
Um, and,

468
00:19:54,655 --> 00:19:57,155
and it's ex I mean, like, we're
like super excited about it.

469
00:19:57,155 --> 00:20:00,035
Like we had to arrange with
the person who runs the shop.

470
00:20:00,035 --> 00:20:01,275
Like normally they're only

471
00:20:01,275 --> 00:20:02,435
there for a certain amount of time.

472
00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:04,355
We're like, but, but if
we come between this time,

473
00:20:04,785 --> 00:20:06,235
will you be there and can we come in

474
00:20:06,235 --> 00:20:07,515
and spend our money <laugh>?

475
00:20:09,415 --> 00:20:11,315
But, so it's exciting to
go do that thing. Mm-Hmm.

476
00:20:11,355 --> 00:20:12,875
<affirmative> because we have
business, but it's, you know,

477
00:20:12,875 --> 00:20:16,835
we're gonna get a few hours
where it's just the two

478
00:20:16,835 --> 00:20:17,915
of us just doing our thing.

479
00:20:17,915 --> 00:20:21,155
Right. Um, and yet

480
00:20:22,015 --> 00:20:26,075
I'm at a point with just life in general

481
00:20:28,585 --> 00:20:30,915
that the distractions,

482
00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:33,875
sometimes the distract distractions
are exactly what I need.

483
00:20:33,875 --> 00:20:36,995
And I get to just go be another
part of myself for a while

484
00:20:37,055 --> 00:20:39,315
and we will, to the best of our ability.

485
00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,835
And not to like freak the vanillas out.

486
00:20:41,845 --> 00:20:43,595
We'll be in our dynamic, you know,

487
00:20:43,905 --> 00:20:45,835
with, you know, in that time. Mm-Hmm.

488
00:20:45,875 --> 00:20:46,955
- <affirmative>.
- And, uh,

489
00:20:47,745 --> 00:20:51,125
but the hard part about the distractions

490
00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:55,445
and getting away is that it de

491
00:20:57,795 --> 00:21:01,205
sometimes that's the bigger
worry of if I'm distracted,

492
00:21:01,715 --> 00:21:04,845
what am I not focusing
on outside of us Mm-Hmm.

493
00:21:04,845 --> 00:21:06,845
Outside of our relationship
that I need to be,

494
00:21:06,845 --> 00:21:07,925
am I missing something?

495
00:21:08,585 --> 00:21:11,645
Am I doing something
wrong? Am I causing harm?

496
00:21:14,785 --> 00:21:16,485
And I know I'm not, I'm not Mm-Hmm.

497
00:21:16,725 --> 00:21:19,005
<affirmative>, I'm like every
other person on the planet.

498
00:21:19,025 --> 00:21:22,605
I'm just doing the best I can.
Um, it's just, there's a lot

499
00:21:22,605 --> 00:21:25,485
of pressure and it's
self-imposed pressure.

500
00:21:25,485 --> 00:21:28,445
Nobody, nobody will pressure me like I

501
00:21:28,445 --> 00:21:29,485
will pressure me <laugh>.

502
00:21:30,425 --> 00:21:34,845
But, um, so I don't always like,

503
00:21:35,335 --> 00:21:36,405
enjoy the distractions.

504
00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:37,685
We got invited to a play party

505
00:21:37,685 --> 00:21:39,645
that's like a valentinesy
kind of play party.

506
00:21:39,645 --> 00:21:41,405
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. It's
after Valentine, the weekend

507
00:21:41,405 --> 00:21:42,405
after Valentine's.

508
00:21:42,545 --> 00:21:47,405
Yes. And of course, my <laugh>,
my socially anxious self,

509
00:21:47,435 --> 00:21:49,365
like immediately like clinched up

510
00:21:49,365 --> 00:21:50,725
and went, I don't know if I can do it.

511
00:21:51,265 --> 00:21:55,405
Um, and then the part of
me that just is constantly

512
00:21:56,625 --> 00:22:01,045
in a caretaking role outside
of this dynamic goes, can we,

513
00:22:01,245 --> 00:22:02,965
should we, is that, is
that the best thing?

514
00:22:02,965 --> 00:22:05,165
Am Can I even, it's so weird

515
00:22:05,165 --> 00:22:07,365
because there's a part of me
that goes in my mind goes,

516
00:22:07,425 --> 00:22:12,285
you have got to find ways to not,

517
00:22:12,705 --> 00:22:14,605
I'm gonna say let it go, but
I, it is not a let it go.

518
00:22:14,605 --> 00:22:18,005
It's a temporarily like, have
time, make time for yourself,

519
00:22:18,115 --> 00:22:19,525
make time for your relationship.

520
00:22:19,915 --> 00:22:23,685
Make time to do things you
enjoy. Like logically reasonably.

521
00:22:23,925 --> 00:22:25,725
I know all of that. I know all
of it. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

522
00:22:25,865 --> 00:22:28,925
And yet I'm kind of stuck in
a pattern right now of there.

523
00:22:28,925 --> 00:22:30,685
But there's all these
things to, to worry about.

524
00:22:30,685 --> 00:22:32,925
There's all these things
that need my focus and,

525
00:22:33,225 --> 00:22:37,285
and you know, what happens
if I take my eye off of all

526
00:22:37,285 --> 00:22:38,925
of those spinning plates for a minute?

527
00:22:39,265 --> 00:22:42,965
And so I get very uncomfortable
with the idea of, of that.

528
00:22:43,585 --> 00:22:48,045
And yet I know that it's needed.

529
00:22:48,365 --> 00:22:49,885
I know it's necessary. I know

530
00:22:49,885 --> 00:22:52,445
that if I don't figure out
ways to refill my own, well,

531
00:22:52,805 --> 00:22:55,485
I am screwed because some
of this stuff we're dealing

532
00:22:55,485 --> 00:22:57,125
with is a long haul thing.

533
00:22:57,195 --> 00:22:59,285
Nothing will be sorted and solved No.

534
00:22:59,385 --> 00:23:02,125
In the next three to five
business days. Right. <laugh>. No.

535
00:23:02,305 --> 00:23:04,685
We might be talking three to
five business years. Like Yeah.

536
00:23:04,845 --> 00:23:06,565
I, I know that. Yeah. Um,

537
00:23:06,705 --> 00:23:09,485
- And, and the thing is, you know, yes,

538
00:23:09,535 --> 00:23:10,765
those things are important

539
00:23:10,765 --> 00:23:14,685
because, you know, we need

540
00:23:14,745 --> 00:23:16,765
to steal away those moments when

541
00:23:16,765 --> 00:23:17,845
we can. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

542
00:23:18,185 --> 00:23:19,405
- Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. I

543
00:23:19,405 --> 00:23:20,405
- Know.

544
00:23:20,405 --> 00:23:24,365
You know, um, um, I'm kind

545
00:23:24,365 --> 00:23:25,845
of gonna jump ahead here a little bit.

546
00:23:25,865 --> 00:23:27,645
You know, one of your,
one of your questions is

547
00:23:27,645 --> 00:23:29,125
what we missed from previous times.

548
00:23:29,765 --> 00:23:32,005
Hmm. Um, you know,

549
00:23:32,225 --> 00:23:36,045
and I, I think this kind
of flows into that Sure.

550
00:23:36,485 --> 00:23:40,005
Question a little bit. Um, you know

551
00:23:41,915 --> 00:23:46,725
what I'm, what I miss, um,
the way we were able to just

552
00:23:47,915 --> 00:23:49,085
play at a moment's notice.

553
00:23:49,705 --> 00:23:51,085
Oh, sure. Okay.

554
00:23:51,865 --> 00:23:56,805
Um, you know, the way we had
the ability to, to slip away

555
00:23:56,825 --> 00:24:01,325
to the dungeon when we wanted to, and,

556
00:24:01,385 --> 00:24:02,445
and those things are not,

557
00:24:03,745 --> 00:24:06,725
um, available.

558
00:24:07,475 --> 00:24:09,845
- Yeah. Not currently.
- Not currently. Currently. Yeah.

559
00:24:10,685 --> 00:24:13,325
- I know the, the optimist
within me just goes,

560
00:24:13,325 --> 00:24:15,565
this is just, this is
just a moment in time.

561
00:24:15,665 --> 00:24:17,525
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and
things will change again.

562
00:24:17,525 --> 00:24:18,245
And there will be different

563
00:24:18,245 --> 00:24:19,725
opportunities and new opportunities.

564
00:24:19,995 --> 00:24:22,245
Yeah. The part of me that craves routine

565
00:24:22,325 --> 00:24:24,365
and knowing what happens
next is like, yes.

566
00:24:24,365 --> 00:24:25,445
But Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, I wanna

567
00:24:25,445 --> 00:24:26,485
go back to things <laugh>.

568
00:24:26,765 --> 00:24:29,405
I know what happens
next. Yeah. Um, <laugh>.

569
00:24:29,785 --> 00:24:30,965
Oh, well I'll have to get over that.

570
00:24:31,165 --> 00:24:33,285
'cause that's not, that's
not how that works. Yeah.

571
00:24:33,425 --> 00:24:35,605
Um, you know, it's funny
on that question of, of

572
00:24:35,605 --> 00:24:36,845
what we missed from previous times.

573
00:24:37,505 --> 00:24:40,125
So this is not gonna
sound like it connects,

574
00:24:40,165 --> 00:24:42,965
but just go with my,
my, whatever the fuck.

575
00:24:42,965 --> 00:24:47,405
My brain is here. So
<laugh>, uh, I've been, uh,

576
00:24:48,785 --> 00:24:51,485
de not dealing with my feelings
by doing a lot of reading.

577
00:24:52,185 --> 00:24:53,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And I was like,

578
00:24:53,285 --> 00:24:54,205
I need a palate cleanser.

579
00:24:54,285 --> 00:24:57,965
'cause I'd read a lot of romantic
fantasy, fantasy, romance,

580
00:24:58,325 --> 00:24:59,325
whatever the fuck they want to call it.

581
00:24:59,325 --> 00:25:01,605
And I was like, yeah, yeah,
yeah. But it's not kinky enough.

582
00:25:01,605 --> 00:25:05,365
It's not sexy enough. And
I came across, um, a series

583
00:25:05,975 --> 00:25:07,925
about people who own a sex club

584
00:25:07,985 --> 00:25:09,885
and their personal
kinks and relationships.

585
00:25:09,945 --> 00:25:12,085
And it's a delightful series.
Do I know the name of it?

586
00:25:12,085 --> 00:25:13,245
Of course I don't. <laugh>.

587
00:25:13,245 --> 00:25:16,005
Um, the first book in the
series is what hooked me

588
00:25:16,315 --> 00:25:19,645
because it was, uh, the,
the featured couple,

589
00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:21,525
um, was dom sub.

590
00:25:21,585 --> 00:25:25,165
So I, you y'all know I'm in it
and she's got a praise kink.

591
00:25:25,165 --> 00:25:26,845
And that's actually,
other than submission,

592
00:25:27,105 --> 00:25:28,285
the praise kink is like her thing.

593
00:25:28,285 --> 00:25:30,205
They're not into impact, they're
not into bondage. Mm-Hmm.

594
00:25:30,245 --> 00:25:31,485
<affirmative>. I'm like, okay,

595
00:25:31,485 --> 00:25:32,565
but I can, I can go with this.

596
00:25:32,625 --> 00:25:37,405
And the thing I ended
up, I ended up tearing up

597
00:25:38,005 --> 00:25:39,485
multiple times reading that, not

598
00:25:39,485 --> 00:25:41,685
because there was necessarily anything,

599
00:25:42,785 --> 00:25:44,245
you know, tear worthy.

600
00:25:44,355 --> 00:25:47,365
Like it was, it was good.
It was a good story. Yeah.

601
00:25:47,365 --> 00:25:48,365
But like, not enough

602
00:25:48,365 --> 00:25:50,405
that under different
circumstances would get me crying.

603
00:25:51,025 --> 00:25:55,885
But it was because I was
reading a fairly well written

604
00:25:56,575 --> 00:26:00,885
power exchange where in
the world of fiction,

605
00:26:01,345 --> 00:26:03,445
she got to just, in these
times they were together,

606
00:26:03,505 --> 00:26:04,685
she got to just let go.

607
00:26:05,865 --> 00:26:08,325
And it was, it was a
little bit trope of, oh,

608
00:26:08,325 --> 00:26:10,925
she's an air quote natural
sub, and, you know, yeah.

609
00:26:10,925 --> 00:26:12,365
Yeah. We know I kind of side eye

610
00:26:12,405 --> 00:26:13,445
a little bit at some of that.

611
00:26:13,945 --> 00:26:15,605
Um, and she just sort of fell into it

612
00:26:15,605 --> 00:26:17,325
and it, it was difficult, but it was easy

613
00:26:17,425 --> 00:26:21,685
and it, it shut her brain off
to be able to just do what,

614
00:26:21,785 --> 00:26:23,085
you know, her dom says Mm-Hmm.

615
00:26:23,105 --> 00:26:26,045
And I'm over here going, I
cannot believe I'm envious

616
00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:27,885
of a fictional character <laugh>,

617
00:26:28,105 --> 00:26:30,405
and I'm literally living
my own power exchange.

618
00:26:30,405 --> 00:26:32,485
Yeah. But that, that's the thing.

619
00:26:32,525 --> 00:26:36,885
I miss the luxury and it
is a fucking luxury to go.

620
00:26:37,525 --> 00:26:40,405
I, the world gets to be tuned out and,

621
00:26:40,585 --> 00:26:43,005
and whatever you tell me to
do, I'm just gonna do now.

622
00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:45,685
It now part of the problem
is I'm, I'm a little bit out

623
00:26:45,685 --> 00:26:47,885
of practice and I'm way
too sassy for my own good.

624
00:26:48,205 --> 00:26:50,165
I dunno, <laugh> you, I think I've,

625
00:26:50,445 --> 00:26:52,525
I don't think I've fully lost the ability,

626
00:26:52,625 --> 00:26:55,325
but I'm so out of practice
that like my brain

627
00:26:56,005 --> 00:26:57,805
I know doesn't even know
how to shut off anymore.

628
00:26:57,805 --> 00:26:59,365
If you tell me to do
something, I'll do it.

629
00:26:59,365 --> 00:27:04,005
But I have about 35.3
questions. Like Yeah.

630
00:27:04,265 --> 00:27:05,485
I'm, there's a questionnaire

631
00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:07,645
and survey I'm gonna need
you to fill out about

632
00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:09,325
what is happening and why.

633
00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:14,725
<laugh> and I, I, I'm more
like that the more stressed out

634
00:27:14,825 --> 00:27:17,605
and more the, the crazier
things are Mm-Hmm.

635
00:27:17,645 --> 00:27:19,085
<affirmative>. And when
things are relatively calm,

636
00:27:19,185 --> 00:27:23,815
it is easier to just,
you know, go with it.

637
00:27:23,815 --> 00:27:26,215
Yes. And at least in my
experience, I would not say that

638
00:27:26,215 --> 00:27:27,535
that's an automatic for anybody else.

639
00:27:28,515 --> 00:27:31,215
And so, you know, <laugh> finished

640
00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:33,175
that book in very short time.

641
00:27:33,195 --> 00:27:34,215
It was a, it was a good read.

642
00:27:34,475 --> 00:27:39,255
Um, and was turned on 'cause
the kinky sex was hot.

643
00:27:39,255 --> 00:27:40,775
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Yes. Um,

644
00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:44,255
but also it was like,
I am a little sad now

645
00:27:44,255 --> 00:27:47,575
because I have just gotten a, a very clear

646
00:27:47,755 --> 00:27:50,895
and visceral reminder of what

647
00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:53,655
we don't have right now.

648
00:27:53,765 --> 00:27:57,575
Yeah. And it's, you know,
I I I'm always tempted

649
00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:59,655
to put a lot of the blame on myself

650
00:27:59,655 --> 00:28:01,535
that I am the sole reason.

651
00:28:02,315 --> 00:28:03,455
We don't have that.

652
00:28:04,075 --> 00:28:08,375
And yet I know that currently
you are not in a place

653
00:28:09,795 --> 00:28:12,815
to be able to do, to be
that kind of dom right now.

654
00:28:12,815 --> 00:28:16,055
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> like,
it's just the, the fact

655
00:28:16,255 --> 00:28:20,215
that in order to be able to
stop focus on one another,

656
00:28:20,835 --> 00:28:24,055
you tell me to do things
sexy or, or not sexy,

657
00:28:24,475 --> 00:28:28,375
but in that very clear power exchange way,

658
00:28:28,755 --> 00:28:31,695
you don't always have the
bandwidth to be that guy.

659
00:28:31,915 --> 00:28:33,775
- No, no.
- And when we,

660
00:28:33,925 --> 00:28:36,815
when we individually have
the bandwidth lately,

661
00:28:36,955 --> 00:28:38,495
it has not matched up <laugh>.

662
00:28:39,005 --> 00:28:40,935
It's not happening at the same time.

663
00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:43,095
- <laugh>. No, it, it's not, it's not.

664
00:28:43,795 --> 00:28:45,615
Um, that the, is this the book,

665
00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:49,335
- Uh, that is book two of that series?

666
00:28:49,455 --> 00:28:51,375
I finished that this morning
before I got <laugh>. Okay.

667
00:28:55,955 --> 00:28:57,895
The author is Sarah Kate,

668
00:28:58,935 --> 00:29:01,495
- CATE,
- Uhhuh <affirmative> Sarah without an H.

669
00:29:01,605 --> 00:29:04,175
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative>. That's good.

670
00:29:04,315 --> 00:29:08,295
I'm on the third book is,
uh, definitely gonna be a,

671
00:29:08,655 --> 00:29:10,455
a th it's gonna start as a threesome.

672
00:29:10,535 --> 00:29:12,695
I can see it happening.
It's gonna move into a

673
00:29:12,695 --> 00:29:14,615
poly relationship.

674
00:29:15,355 --> 00:29:19,855
Um, and this is from like the,
it was not a content warning.

675
00:29:19,855 --> 00:29:21,415
It was just a, here's a heads up of what,

676
00:29:21,435 --> 00:29:22,695
what's gonna happen in this book.

677
00:29:22,955 --> 00:29:25,015
And it's somebody who's
gonna figure out their

678
00:29:25,015 --> 00:29:26,135
bisexuality Mm-Hmm.

679
00:29:26,435 --> 00:29:29,335
And I'm like, I'm already,
I'm like 20% in already.

680
00:29:29,395 --> 00:29:31,575
I'm like, tell me, give it
to me. Mm-Hmm. Gimme more.

681
00:29:31,995 --> 00:29:35,535
Uh, let me <laugh>. Lemme live
through fictional characters.

682
00:29:36,045 --> 00:29:39,935
- Yeah. And, and, you know,
for, for me, it's, it's been,

683
00:29:41,025 --> 00:29:45,325
um, a, a thing where I have been,

684
00:29:48,065 --> 00:29:51,365
um, lurking a good bit on, on Fed.

685
00:29:51,705 --> 00:29:56,325
Mm. And you know, I, I see a,

686
00:29:56,405 --> 00:30:01,165
a lot of people talking
about their power exchange

687
00:30:02,345 --> 00:30:05,885
and the structure that they have.

688
00:30:05,985 --> 00:30:08,925
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
you know, I'm like, yeah.

689
00:30:09,085 --> 00:30:11,125
I would, I, I kind of miss that.

690
00:30:12,085 --> 00:30:13,325
- I feel like I'm, I'm turning a

691
00:30:13,325 --> 00:30:14,445
little cynical, which is really weird.

692
00:30:14,565 --> 00:30:18,645
'cause Ooh, my inner optimist
is so light and airy,

693
00:30:19,165 --> 00:30:21,725
- <laugh> <laugh> and wide-eyed.

694
00:30:22,625 --> 00:30:25,405
- But, you know, I, I sort of,

695
00:30:25,695 --> 00:30:27,525
other than in fiction, I guess Mm-Hmm.

696
00:30:27,565 --> 00:30:29,845
<affirmative> because that
hasn't, hasn't bothered me.

697
00:30:29,905 --> 00:30:31,925
But when I come across stuff online

698
00:30:31,925 --> 00:30:33,765
and people are talking about their sort

699
00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:35,125
of real life experience

700
00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:36,205
and what their dynamic looks like,

701
00:30:36,205 --> 00:30:37,725
what they want their dynamic to look like,

702
00:30:37,725 --> 00:30:39,245
what they're negotiating
for their dynamic.

703
00:30:39,245 --> 00:30:41,565
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> that
my inner cynic, who's just,

704
00:30:41,675 --> 00:30:43,645
it's just my optimist who's tired, y'all.

705
00:30:43,945 --> 00:30:46,365
Um, she's like, well, good luck with

706
00:30:46,365 --> 00:30:48,845
that when life kicks you in the nuts.

707
00:30:49,085 --> 00:30:51,005
I don't have nuts, but life
has kicked me there. <laugh>.

708
00:30:51,005 --> 00:30:52,005
Yeah.

709
00:30:52,155 --> 00:30:55,325
- Yeah. - Those nuts have
been kicked. Um, <laugh>.

710
00:30:55,425 --> 00:30:57,165
And I don't wanna be that way

711
00:30:57,165 --> 00:31:00,485
because first of all, there
are absolutely people who go

712
00:31:00,485 --> 00:31:03,365
through the chaos of life.

713
00:31:03,465 --> 00:31:06,365
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And their
power exchange is a hundred

714
00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:07,445
percent what gets them through it.

715
00:31:07,715 --> 00:31:09,045
Yeah. There are people,

716
00:31:09,225 --> 00:31:13,605
and I feel like that's who
I'm, I'm speaking on behalf of

717
00:31:14,225 --> 00:31:16,085
who are like, our power exchange is good.

718
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:18,885
I feel it all the time.
However, <laugh> Yeah.

719
00:31:19,235 --> 00:31:21,165
Life has kicked me in the
nuts. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

720
00:31:21,165 --> 00:31:23,365
And so it's not crumbling,

721
00:31:23,365 --> 00:31:25,085
but it's not what I want it to be.

722
00:31:25,145 --> 00:31:28,365
And I don't like that.

723
00:31:28,605 --> 00:31:33,005
I don't like that I can't have exactly

724
00:31:33,035 --> 00:31:35,205
what I want out of our power exchange.

725
00:31:35,645 --> 00:31:39,485
I also don't like that
life keeps going here,

726
00:31:39,485 --> 00:31:40,725
hold my beer. Let's see. Yeah.

727
00:31:40,725 --> 00:31:41,765
- Right. Yeah.
- But, but, but I mean,

728
00:31:41,765 --> 00:31:43,285
we've been talking about it for
years and it's like, mm-Hmm.

729
00:31:43,285 --> 00:31:44,605
It's almost a boring
subject to this point.

730
00:31:44,745 --> 00:31:48,645
But I would rather represent

731
00:31:48,745 --> 00:31:53,085
and bring help people who
are in our position, who feel

732
00:31:53,825 --> 00:31:55,885
bad about that, who feel shame for that,

733
00:31:55,885 --> 00:31:57,085
who are telling themselves

734
00:31:57,085 --> 00:31:59,165
that they're not really in power exchange

735
00:31:59,555 --> 00:32:01,765
because all of the intricacies

736
00:32:01,785 --> 00:32:04,525
of their power ex their dynamic kind of

737
00:32:06,095 --> 00:32:08,525
break apart or dwindle or diminish

738
00:32:08,585 --> 00:32:12,365
or just fucking disappear
in these times of life.

739
00:32:12,425 --> 00:32:14,845
And to me, that's the
more realistic thing.

740
00:32:14,965 --> 00:32:19,325
I think if people can maintain
their very, like, clear

741
00:32:20,175 --> 00:32:21,565
power exchange and all the

742
00:32:21,565 --> 00:32:22,965
intricacies of it. I wanna let her

743
00:32:23,115 --> 00:32:26,725
- Through,
- Um, the, the craziest shit.

744
00:32:27,525 --> 00:32:29,045
I think they're the
exception, not the rule.

745
00:32:29,065 --> 00:32:30,165
And I'm very happy for them.

746
00:32:30,385 --> 00:32:33,285
But I cannot relate,
you know, <laugh>, um,

747
00:32:33,365 --> 00:32:35,605
I think I said it a couple
weeks ago, I have a lot

748
00:32:35,605 --> 00:32:36,885
of competing priorities

749
00:32:36,905 --> 00:32:38,645
and I genuinely most

750
00:32:38,645 --> 00:32:41,285
of the time believe if everything's
a priority, nothing is.

751
00:32:41,285 --> 00:32:44,605
But I also think, as with
all sayings that are supposed

752
00:32:44,605 --> 00:32:48,245
to hold truths in them,
it's too simplistic.

753
00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:49,525
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> like, you can

754
00:32:49,525 --> 00:32:50,645
have multiple priorities.

755
00:32:50,995 --> 00:32:52,565
Working to pay the bills

756
00:32:52,705 --> 00:32:55,365
and keep a roof over
our head is a priority.

757
00:32:55,795 --> 00:32:59,245
Yeah. Helping a your, one of your children

758
00:32:59,245 --> 00:33:02,245
through a very tough time
in their life is a priority.

759
00:33:02,265 --> 00:33:05,045
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But also, you know,

760
00:33:05,605 --> 00:33:09,045
maintaining a relationship that has

761
00:33:09,145 --> 00:33:11,525
to be maintained in order to stay healthy,

762
00:33:11,555 --> 00:33:12,605
that is a priority.

763
00:33:13,145 --> 00:33:14,165
And a couple

764
00:33:14,165 --> 00:33:16,605
of those priorities might
be higher up on the list.

765
00:33:16,775 --> 00:33:20,405
Right. And this is why having
a conversation like this

766
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:22,485
as awkward as I feel right now,

767
00:33:22,805 --> 00:33:25,805
'cause I can tell y'all all kinds of shit.

768
00:33:26,005 --> 00:33:30,405
I can put my butthole on the internet,

769
00:33:30,505 --> 00:33:33,245
but something about crying on camera

770
00:33:33,505 --> 00:33:37,525
or into a microphone, I'm
just, uh, I don't like it.

771
00:33:37,525 --> 00:33:42,485
Yeah. Um, but these kinds
of check-ins as emotional

772
00:33:42,485 --> 00:33:45,545
as they can be when it's not a, oh,

773
00:33:45,545 --> 00:33:46,705
we have a clear, like, plan.

774
00:33:46,705 --> 00:33:48,185
What are we gonna do for our
relationship? Right. Mm-Hmm.

775
00:33:48,225 --> 00:33:50,985
<affirmative> they're
important because some,

776
00:33:51,045 --> 00:33:53,745
for me at least, it
reminds me I'm not alone.

777
00:33:54,485 --> 00:33:57,185
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, sometimes
it, it gives an opportunity

778
00:33:57,205 --> 00:34:00,985
for me to express something better <laugh>

779
00:34:01,895 --> 00:34:04,705
than in those passing things

780
00:34:04,705 --> 00:34:06,625
where JB kindly goes, how are you doing?

781
00:34:07,205 --> 00:34:11,025
And he's asking at a time
when I'm trying to decide

782
00:34:11,025 --> 00:34:13,985
between five very important
things that have to get done.

783
00:34:14,885 --> 00:34:19,225
And also dealing with mom, guilt,

784
00:34:19,755 --> 00:34:23,265
submissive, guilt, uh, just guilt.

785
00:34:23,625 --> 00:34:25,145
'cause apparently that's who I am now.

786
00:34:25,485 --> 00:34:29,265
Um, and I can't, I'm not
able to like, give the

787
00:34:30,125 --> 00:34:32,145
in depth, let me look deep into your soul.

788
00:34:32,165 --> 00:34:34,065
Let try to explain myself kind of answer.

789
00:34:34,205 --> 00:34:37,945
And what he gets is my
very snarky answer, <laugh>

790
00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:42,425
that then doesn't really
convey where I'm at completely.

791
00:34:43,005 --> 00:34:45,465
And then he's more like,
oh, she's in a pissy mood.

792
00:34:45,585 --> 00:34:48,425
I should avoid her. And
I'm thinking, no, no,

793
00:34:48,445 --> 00:34:49,585
please don't avoid me.

794
00:34:49,615 --> 00:34:51,825
Even though I'm sending
out all of the signals

795
00:34:51,935 --> 00:34:53,145
that say, avoid me.

796
00:34:53,145 --> 00:34:54,345
Please don't avoid me.

797
00:34:54,585 --> 00:34:58,865
<laugh> <laugh>, please, please
stay right here by my side.

798
00:34:59,585 --> 00:35:01,825
I can't give you any tasks to do.

799
00:35:02,105 --> 00:35:05,025
'cause I don't know what I
would ask you to help me with.

800
00:35:05,165 --> 00:35:09,785
But just, you know, I'm right
now with things going on, I,

801
00:35:09,905 --> 00:35:12,145
I think my biggest thing
is wanting to feel seen.

802
00:35:12,685 --> 00:35:15,985
- Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah.
That makes sense. That makes

803
00:35:15,985 --> 00:35:16,985
- Sense.

804
00:35:16,985 --> 00:35:19,185
It's so weird how things
you don't think are

805
00:35:19,185 --> 00:35:20,425
connected can be connected.

806
00:35:21,165 --> 00:35:24,425
My desire to want to
be seen and understood.

807
00:35:25,165 --> 00:35:27,975
And I can't think of other words

808
00:35:28,175 --> 00:35:31,575
'cause this brain is not wording
today, um, in these kinds

809
00:35:31,575 --> 00:35:34,695
of times stem, I think stem in part from

810
00:35:37,255 --> 00:35:40,085
times as a child where
I was going through it

811
00:35:40,085 --> 00:35:42,485
and I was, I was not seen
and I was not understood.

812
00:35:42,485 --> 00:35:43,565
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And so then I spend

813
00:35:43,835 --> 00:35:46,165
what feels like an inordinate
amount of time trying

814
00:35:46,165 --> 00:35:50,605
to get you to fully exactly
down to like the cellular level,

815
00:35:50,855 --> 00:35:52,605
understand how I'm feeling

816
00:35:52,825 --> 00:35:55,725
and what's going on with me and I, Mm-Hmm.

817
00:35:55,765 --> 00:35:59,805
<affirmative>, I don't
know how helpful that is.

818
00:35:59,885 --> 00:36:01,525
I don't even know how possible that is.

819
00:36:02,385 --> 00:36:05,845
And yet at the same time, I do not want

820
00:36:05,905 --> 00:36:07,405
or need JB to do that for me.

821
00:36:07,405 --> 00:36:10,685
Like if he says I am stressed
all of my validation.

822
00:36:10,945 --> 00:36:12,965
Yes, yes you are.

823
00:36:13,265 --> 00:36:16,005
And I can list all the
reasons you are <laugh>.

824
00:36:17,525 --> 00:36:18,685
I know why you are. Yeah.

825
00:36:18,685 --> 00:36:21,605
And also let's come up with
solutions together. Mm-Hmm.

826
00:36:21,645 --> 00:36:24,365
<affirmative>. But when I'm
on that other end of it, it's,

827
00:36:24,595 --> 00:36:28,725
it's either a, I curl
inward and I distance myself

828
00:36:28,725 --> 00:36:30,685
and I pull away or I lash out.

829
00:36:31,155 --> 00:36:32,765
Neither of which makes me feel

830
00:36:32,765 --> 00:36:33,845
like a good submissive <laugh>.

831
00:36:33,845 --> 00:36:35,605
Yeah. Neither of which. Yeah.

832
00:36:35,975 --> 00:36:38,965
Makes me feel like I am
serving and submitting

833
00:36:39,025 --> 00:36:40,445
and being the best little baby

834
00:36:40,445 --> 00:36:41,565
girl. I know how to be <laugh>.

835
00:36:41,585 --> 00:36:45,205
- Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Well,
you know, for me, um, and,

836
00:36:45,225 --> 00:36:48,045
and you know, a lot of the
things we have, you, you know,

837
00:36:48,045 --> 00:36:49,285
everything we have on our plate,

838
00:36:49,965 --> 00:36:50,725
I probably know shit

839
00:36:50,785 --> 00:36:51,845
you don't know that we got on our board.

840
00:36:51,845 --> 00:36:53,525
You're right. That scares
the hell outta me too.

841
00:36:53,755 --> 00:36:56,765
- Yeah. I doll that out as
I feel like you can handle.

842
00:36:56,895 --> 00:36:57,965
Right. One more thing.

843
00:36:58,115 --> 00:36:59,645
- Yeah. And,

844
00:36:59,905 --> 00:37:04,165
and you know, my kind of solution

845
00:37:04,785 --> 00:37:09,245
for that has been to dive into my work.

846
00:37:10,185 --> 00:37:12,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and,

847
00:37:12,465 --> 00:37:17,245
and you know, just like
you're doing for the,

848
00:37:17,705 --> 00:37:20,045
the boy, you know what you're doing.

849
00:37:20,385 --> 00:37:23,645
I'm, I feel like what I'm
doing is helping us in

850
00:37:23,905 --> 00:37:25,205
the that aspect.

851
00:37:25,665 --> 00:37:27,565
- And I, you know what,
when you say that, I go,

852
00:37:27,565 --> 00:37:29,405
oh God, not only yes.

853
00:37:29,425 --> 00:37:31,685
Do I see that, but also
you're right, it's working

854
00:37:31,685 --> 00:37:34,365
because we're having record sales.

855
00:37:34,705 --> 00:37:36,485
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> for
this time of the year for us.

856
00:37:36,835 --> 00:37:39,485
Yeah. Um, it's not, it's
not enough to get us

857
00:37:39,485 --> 00:37:41,645
where we wanna be, but
man, it's, it's good.

858
00:37:41,715 --> 00:37:43,005
It's getting us closer. Yeah.

859
00:37:43,305 --> 00:37:46,325
Um, and I, I get so lost

860
00:37:46,385 --> 00:37:50,005
and when I'm going through
that, I've, I don't,

861
00:37:52,405 --> 00:37:54,205
I don't wanna say I don't
acknowledge what you're doing.

862
00:37:54,445 --> 00:37:55,725
'cause I do. And I Mm-Hmm.

863
00:37:55,765 --> 00:37:57,005
<affirmative> god, I appreciate it,

864
00:37:57,345 --> 00:37:59,325
but I don't recognize it for what it is.

865
00:37:59,665 --> 00:38:01,005
But also I think I'm jealous.

866
00:38:01,185 --> 00:38:05,645
My typical coping mechanism
for high stress is work,

867
00:38:06,905 --> 00:38:08,725
and work has to be done and it still is.

868
00:38:08,725 --> 00:38:09,885
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And,
you know, we've got enough

869
00:38:09,885 --> 00:38:11,045
of a routine that we get shit done.

870
00:38:11,045 --> 00:38:14,085
Yeah. But I don't right
now don't have the time

871
00:38:14,905 --> 00:38:16,405
to lose myself in work.

872
00:38:16,825 --> 00:38:19,605
And I think that's a little bit
of what's fucking me up too.

873
00:38:20,585 --> 00:38:23,445
So what I'm doing is I'm
losing myself in fiction,

874
00:38:23,445 --> 00:38:25,125
which is not a bad thing.

875
00:38:25,235 --> 00:38:30,165
Yeah. But I'm also having
that moment of here's a thing

876
00:38:30,165 --> 00:38:32,365
that lets me forget everything.

877
00:38:33,025 --> 00:38:34,685
And so I can fall into it for two

878
00:38:34,685 --> 00:38:36,445
or three, three hours
at a time if you let me.

879
00:38:36,625 --> 00:38:38,405
But also here are the,
all the other things

880
00:38:38,405 --> 00:38:40,565
that are not happening while
I'm losing myself here.

881
00:38:40,865 --> 00:38:42,845
And some of those things
I need to just let go of,

882
00:38:43,065 --> 00:38:44,805
not forever, but for those two

883
00:38:44,805 --> 00:38:46,285
or three hours I need to disconnect from.

884
00:38:46,505 --> 00:38:48,485
But some of those things are time

885
00:38:48,485 --> 00:38:49,645
for you and I to spend together.

886
00:38:49,645 --> 00:38:52,525
Things that you and I, and
I'm like over here lost in the

887
00:38:52,525 --> 00:38:53,685
kindle apple on my phone.

888
00:38:53,685 --> 00:38:55,725
Yeah. 'cause what I need is more time

889
00:38:55,725 --> 00:38:58,845
with a screen in my face
when and in instead.

890
00:38:58,905 --> 00:39:01,725
And so instead of, Hey,
let's watch TV together, Hey,

891
00:39:01,725 --> 00:39:02,845
let's have a conversation together.

892
00:39:03,105 --> 00:39:04,405
Hey, let's go run errands together.

893
00:39:04,505 --> 00:39:06,765
Hey, let's just bead gather. Yeah.

894
00:39:07,185 --> 00:39:08,805
I'm like, actually I'm gonna dissociate

895
00:39:09,495 --> 00:39:11,085
while into a fictional world.

896
00:39:11,155 --> 00:39:12,485
This is not my

897
00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:13,725
- Creation.

898
00:39:13,725 --> 00:39:14,845
Yeah. And,

899
00:39:14,905 --> 00:39:18,325
and, you know, for, for me of late, I,

900
00:39:18,445 --> 00:39:20,725
I know I haven't really
said much about it,

901
00:39:21,825 --> 00:39:25,645
but, um, you know, there,
there has been something

902
00:39:27,035 --> 00:39:30,085
with me that has been looming since what?

903
00:39:30,355 --> 00:39:33,885
Last August, September,
if not long, not longer.

904
00:39:34,905 --> 00:39:36,765
And, and it's been one of those things

905
00:39:36,765 --> 00:39:41,485
that has just been a long
slow drawn out process.

906
00:39:41,825 --> 00:39:42,965
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And,

907
00:39:43,105 --> 00:39:46,645
and by next week could conceivably

908
00:39:47,855 --> 00:39:49,125
- We'll be on a different path with

909
00:39:49,125 --> 00:39:50,125
- It.

910
00:39:50,125 --> 00:39:51,245
Yeah. D be on a different path with it

911
00:39:51,745 --> 00:39:53,445
- And maybe working towards resolution.

912
00:39:53,575 --> 00:39:54,645
Right. Yeah.

913
00:39:54,655 --> 00:39:57,085
We've, we've had so
much chaos for so long,

914
00:39:57,145 --> 00:40:01,005
my brain can't quite comprehend
that some things could come

915
00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:02,085
to a conclusion.

916
00:40:02,955 --> 00:40:05,645
- Yeah. <laugh> - And a conclusion
that is favorable to us.

917
00:40:05,645 --> 00:40:07,845
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> what this
could work out in our favor.

918
00:40:07,845 --> 00:40:10,565
Right. And yet, when it
fucking happens, I'm,

919
00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:12,085
I'm gonna fucking celebrate.

920
00:40:12,265 --> 00:40:13,605
I'm gonna be like, Ooh, let's cross

921
00:40:13,635 --> 00:40:14,485
that off the mental

922
00:40:14,485 --> 00:40:15,605
list. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> that is done.

923
00:40:15,885 --> 00:40:17,165
- <laugh>. Yeah. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

924
00:40:17,725 --> 00:40:20,485
- I, um, yeah.

925
00:40:20,685 --> 00:40:22,245
I feel like, let me get
back to our questions.

926
00:40:22,595 --> 00:40:25,485
- Okay.
- Um, <affirmative>,

927
00:40:28,025 --> 00:40:30,605
so I'm gonna put two of these together.

928
00:40:30,785 --> 00:40:33,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, What is it

929
00:40:33,165 --> 00:40:36,685
that we wish power exchange
wise that we were doing

930
00:40:36,685 --> 00:40:39,685
that we're not, that we were
back previous times Mm-Hmm.

931
00:40:39,785 --> 00:40:41,405
The before times we were doing
Yeah. And we no longer are.

932
00:40:41,545 --> 00:40:45,565
And how are we feeling about
what we're not doing and

933
00:40:45,565 --> 00:40:47,165
or what we are doing?

934
00:40:48,605 --> 00:40:51,245
I mean, I think part of it is,
I I miss the every soft one.

935
00:40:51,245 --> 00:40:53,045
You would go like definite big D

936
00:40:53,045 --> 00:40:54,845
and I could just like shut my brain off.

937
00:40:54,875 --> 00:40:56,365
Yeah. Like, I don't, I Mm-Hmm.

938
00:40:56,405 --> 00:40:58,325
<affirmative> the way I
shut my brain off now is to,

939
00:40:58,385 --> 00:41:00,445
to fall into a fictional world.

940
00:41:00,835 --> 00:41:03,685
Yeah. And I've, I've used
that most of my life.

941
00:41:04,125 --> 00:41:06,285
I would like to shut my brain off

942
00:41:06,285 --> 00:41:10,645
because a man with a very stern
gaze is like threatening me

943
00:41:10,645 --> 00:41:11,645
with the best time of my life.

944
00:41:11,745 --> 00:41:13,605
You know, <laugh>, that's

945
00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:15,365
where I would like to shut my brain off.

946
00:41:15,365 --> 00:41:16,365
Yeah. Yeah.

947
00:41:16,865 --> 00:41:18,325
- Um hmm.

948
00:41:20,385 --> 00:41:23,325
You know, for me, there,
there are a lot of things

949
00:41:23,435 --> 00:41:26,805
that I believe we could be doing, uh,

950
00:41:26,805 --> 00:41:28,285
things we should be doing.

951
00:41:30,225 --> 00:41:34,965
And, and the more I think
about it, those things,

952
00:41:37,465 --> 00:41:40,205
the worst, it makes me feel
that we're not, oh God.

953
00:41:40,205 --> 00:41:41,645
- Yeah. I was hoping
you were gonna go there.

954
00:41:41,805 --> 00:41:43,085
'cause I was like, don't make me have

955
00:41:43,085 --> 00:41:44,205
to be the one to say <laugh>,

956
00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:45,545
- You know?

957
00:41:45,545 --> 00:41:46,845
Yeah. No, I, I, I do.

958
00:41:47,225 --> 00:41:47,445
And,

959
00:41:52,065 --> 00:41:56,245
and you know, this, this
week alone has, has been

960
00:41:58,615 --> 00:42:00,725
crazy, you know, with me it started Monday

961
00:42:00,755 --> 00:42:02,045
with a, with phone calls

962
00:42:02,605 --> 00:42:04,525
- <laugh> tough phone calls.
Yeah. And you've gotta

963
00:42:05,405 --> 00:42:06,845
- Remake those tough phone calls.

964
00:42:07,435 --> 00:42:11,125
- Yeah, yeah. I know.
- Um, you know, the, the,

965
00:42:11,145 --> 00:42:15,165
the phone call wasn't a a fix
all, it was just, you know, a

966
00:42:16,315 --> 00:42:18,565
okay, what do we do kind of thing.

967
00:42:19,105 --> 00:42:19,605
And, um,

968
00:42:25,565 --> 00:42:29,325
I I, I feel bad about the
things we're not doing.

969
00:42:29,585 --> 00:42:34,525
And yet with everything that
we are doing, it's like,

970
00:42:34,715 --> 00:42:36,965
okay, where do I pull the bandwidth? Yeah,

971
00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:38,155
- Yeah.

972
00:42:38,155 --> 00:42:39,645
Yeah. I mean, at a certain
point you just, you run out

973
00:42:39,645 --> 00:42:41,125
of time and, and or energy.

974
00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:42,525
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And
I think for both of us,

975
00:42:42,595 --> 00:42:43,605
it's, it's both.

976
00:42:43,605 --> 00:42:45,765
Because by the end of the day
when we might get 10 minutes

977
00:42:46,045 --> 00:42:48,045
together, it's like I'd love

978
00:42:48,045 --> 00:42:49,725
to do some kinky ass fucking shit.

979
00:42:49,865 --> 00:42:54,245
But also I cannot keep my eyes
open. Right. <laugh>. Yeah.

980
00:42:54,545 --> 00:42:57,405
And also, uh, some part of my body hurts

981
00:42:57,465 --> 00:43:00,285
and so you can't do as much
as you would like to anyway.

982
00:43:00,285 --> 00:43:02,885
Mm-Hmm. And also, and
there's always an end also.

983
00:43:02,905 --> 00:43:05,485
So let, let's depress the fuck out

984
00:43:05,565 --> 00:43:06,845
of ourselves together, <laugh>.

985
00:43:06,845 --> 00:43:09,605
Alright. What are some things
that you're missing? <laugh>.

986
00:43:10,245 --> 00:43:13,965
- <laugh>? Um, I, I think

987
00:43:16,505 --> 00:43:20,285
the spontaneity.

988
00:43:21,145 --> 00:43:22,845
Mm. Alright.

989
00:43:22,845 --> 00:43:27,245
The ability to, to have that
spontaneity to, you know,

990
00:43:27,465 --> 00:43:29,365
at any given moment, say, okay,

991
00:43:29,365 --> 00:43:30,885
we're gonna do this now. Right?

992
00:43:30,885 --> 00:43:32,765
- Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like
in middle of the day Yeah.

993
00:43:32,765 --> 00:43:34,805
Or middle of the night or just
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah.

994
00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:37,005
We're just, we're gonna,
we're gonna do this thing,

995
00:43:37,005 --> 00:43:38,245
we're gonna have this moment.

996
00:43:38,415 --> 00:43:40,525
Right. And that moment
can last five minutes

997
00:43:40,625 --> 00:43:41,925
or 45 minutes. Yeah.

998
00:43:42,315 --> 00:43:43,805
- Yeah. And,

999
00:43:43,945 --> 00:43:46,925
and you know, I, I think
for me that yeah, that's

1000
00:43:46,925 --> 00:43:48,405
what I miss most of all,

1001
00:43:48,725 --> 00:43:49,725
- <laugh>.

1002
00:43:49,725 --> 00:43:50,645
And I, I, I see that

1003
00:43:50,665 --> 00:43:52,805
and I, I kind of agree my,
there's a part of my brain

1004
00:43:52,805 --> 00:43:55,125
that does still will never
be okay with spontaneity.

1005
00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:56,165
Well, like, it's just too much. Yeah.

1006
00:43:56,165 --> 00:43:57,405
But I get what you're saying. I'll,

1007
00:43:57,515 --> 00:44:01,085
I'll give you a case in point
about how you can want it

1008
00:44:01,185 --> 00:44:02,365
and you still can't make it happen.

1009
00:44:03,065 --> 00:44:05,005
So last night we knew we
had to go run an errand

1010
00:44:05,005 --> 00:44:05,965
and then they ended up being

1011
00:44:05,965 --> 00:44:07,245
fucking closed when we got there.

1012
00:44:07,515 --> 00:44:10,885
Yeah. <laugh>. But I said, I
said, Hey, while we're out,

1013
00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:12,405
can we stop and get a diet Coke?

1014
00:44:12,605 --> 00:44:13,805
'cause we don't have any
in the house right now.

1015
00:44:13,905 --> 00:44:16,005
And I was like, I could, I
could really use a diet Coke.

1016
00:44:16,005 --> 00:44:17,605
It's, it's been a day.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1017
00:44:17,605 --> 00:44:22,045
And this one goes, what do I get for it?

1018
00:44:22,065 --> 00:44:23,205
And I'm like, well, what do you want?

1019
00:44:23,285 --> 00:44:25,125
I mean, he's daddy dom, what do you want?

1020
00:44:25,145 --> 00:44:26,285
He goes, a blowjob.

1021
00:44:26,365 --> 00:44:29,525
I go, okay, now first of
all, if you're new here,

1022
00:44:29,665 --> 00:44:32,645
you don't know how wildly
radical it is that I went.

1023
00:44:32,795 --> 00:44:34,085
Okay. Right. <laugh> not

1024
00:44:34,085 --> 00:44:36,885
because I'm not being
submissive enough, but

1025
00:44:36,885 --> 00:44:40,525
because the old libido has
just, she's on vacation.

1026
00:44:41,305 --> 00:44:45,725
Um, and, and that I had,
here's the part you, okay.

1027
00:44:46,105 --> 00:44:47,365
So the book I was telling you about

1028
00:44:47,495 --> 00:44:49,765
where it's the DS couple written by Ade,

1029
00:44:49,885 --> 00:44:52,085
I think somebody in the live
chat got the title for me.

1030
00:44:52,085 --> 00:44:54,125
It's called Praise mm-Hmm.
<affirmative>. Oh, it's,

1031
00:44:54,235 --> 00:44:56,605
it's pro It's not
literature, but it's so good.

1032
00:44:56,885 --> 00:44:59,205
<laugh>. Anyway, I had
finished reading that

1033
00:44:59,205 --> 00:45:01,885
before while JB was falling
asleep the night before.

1034
00:45:01,985 --> 00:45:03,445
So this was Monday night.

1035
00:45:03,565 --> 00:45:04,445
'cause Tuesday's like, gimme the

1036
00:45:04,445 --> 00:45:05,605
blowjob, I'll get back to that story.

1037
00:45:06,025 --> 00:45:08,965
Go on this derailed
train ride with me. Okay.

1038
00:45:08,965 --> 00:45:13,045
Going on a journey. So that
I had finished that book

1039
00:45:13,305 --> 00:45:14,805
as JB was falling asleep.

1040
00:45:15,465 --> 00:45:18,845
And for once in a very long
time, I was so turned on,

1041
00:45:18,865 --> 00:45:22,805
was like, oh yeah, I would like
to have the sex now <laugh>,

1042
00:45:23,185 --> 00:45:25,125
but I am not good at initiating.

1043
00:45:25,725 --> 00:45:28,845
I could initiate, but then we're
done. You better take over.

1044
00:45:28,935 --> 00:45:30,645
Right. So I was like, oh shit.

1045
00:45:30,675 --> 00:45:33,125
He's, he's sort of snoring over
there. I think he's asleep.

1046
00:45:33,185 --> 00:45:34,605
But maybe if I do some things

1047
00:45:34,745 --> 00:45:35,925
and by do some things,

1048
00:45:36,085 --> 00:45:38,805
I mean literally rub my ass up on his junk

1049
00:45:39,425 --> 00:45:41,045
for a solid 20 minutes.

1050
00:45:41,625 --> 00:45:44,125
He was not picking up
what I was putting down

1051
00:45:44,365 --> 00:45:46,805
'cause he was asleep
because I was, I was out.

1052
00:45:47,145 --> 00:45:50,365
That's kind of, once
either of us falls asleep,

1053
00:45:50,505 --> 00:45:51,685
we are down for the count.

1054
00:45:51,685 --> 00:45:53,645
Yeah. It's just exhaustion just takes us

1055
00:45:53,755 --> 00:45:54,965
once we, we can get to sleep.

1056
00:45:56,185 --> 00:45:58,245
And so I'm like doing all my best tricks.

1057
00:45:58,765 --> 00:46:02,965
I mean, <laugh>, I believe I
was, I I got pretty physical.

1058
00:46:03,185 --> 00:46:05,485
He just, he was so, so tired.

1059
00:46:05,485 --> 00:46:08,525
He slept the, and I'm not mad about that.

1060
00:46:08,705 --> 00:46:11,605
But, so when the very next day,
first of all, did I tell him

1061
00:46:12,265 --> 00:46:14,245
almost immediately upon awakening

1062
00:46:14,475 --> 00:46:16,805
what he missed the night before <laugh>?

1063
00:46:17,145 --> 00:46:18,725
Yes, I did. Uh,

1064
00:46:20,425 --> 00:46:24,285
did I do a speed run through
book two hoping it would get me

1065
00:46:24,345 --> 00:46:28,525
to the same, uh, level of
arousal that book one did.

1066
00:46:28,645 --> 00:46:30,885
I did. And it didn't, the
story just, it was fine,

1067
00:46:30,905 --> 00:46:32,445
but it wasn't, it didn't hit my kings.

1068
00:46:32,515 --> 00:46:34,485
Okay. So last night,

1069
00:46:35,015 --> 00:46:36,965
after he knows this, he
missed his opportunity.

1070
00:46:36,985 --> 00:46:39,045
And I don't know how to do
more than apparently run my

1071
00:46:39,945 --> 00:46:42,405
ass against your dick there.

1072
00:46:42,515 --> 00:46:45,045
That, that is how I entice and seduce.

1073
00:46:45,045 --> 00:46:48,965
Like I, if you wondered, um,
so when he goes a blowjob,

1074
00:46:48,985 --> 00:46:51,925
I'm like, okay, first
of all, I'm still kind

1075
00:46:51,925 --> 00:46:53,845
of feeling the residual
from the night before.

1076
00:46:54,305 --> 00:46:56,165
And I still was holding out high hopes for

1077
00:46:56,165 --> 00:46:57,245
that, the second book I was reading.

1078
00:46:57,705 --> 00:47:01,445
Um, but also I'm like, ah,
you might do sketchy shit for,

1079
00:47:01,625 --> 00:47:03,725
uh, Klon Bar, but I will do shit.

1080
00:47:04,425 --> 00:47:05,845
All kinds of shit for a Diet Coke.

1081
00:47:06,025 --> 00:47:09,205
So here we go, <laugh>
how happy, happy to do it.

1082
00:47:09,525 --> 00:47:11,765
I also have good memories from
the last time I gave you a

1083
00:47:11,765 --> 00:47:14,885
blowjob that turned very
power exchange kinky.

1084
00:47:14,885 --> 00:47:16,645
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
It was a delight. Yep.

1085
00:47:17,945 --> 00:47:22,365
So, uh, I'm, I'm kind of in
my mind going, okay, okay.

1086
00:47:22,365 --> 00:47:24,405
We're doing some tonight.
It might just be a blow job.

1087
00:47:24,405 --> 00:47:26,445
Might, might not. We might
not. Fuck, but that's okay.

1088
00:47:26,445 --> 00:47:27,845
That's okay. I'm good. I'm good.

1089
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:29,125
We're gonna, we're gonna
do the thing thing.

1090
00:47:29,365 --> 00:47:33,325
'cause I agreed and then
we laid down in bed.

1091
00:47:34,825 --> 00:47:36,365
And here's the thing.

1092
00:47:36,625 --> 00:47:39,485
I'm, I don't want anybody
to think that I think

1093
00:47:40,635 --> 00:47:43,645
that I'm upset or I think
less of JB or any of that.

1094
00:47:43,805 --> 00:47:47,565
'cause I totally get it. He
lays down, he smoked his bowl

1095
00:47:47,565 --> 00:47:49,125
before, so he's nice and relaxed

1096
00:47:49,265 --> 00:47:52,405
and he was so relaxed he got
to lay down and was just out.

1097
00:47:52,425 --> 00:47:56,485
And I went, there will be no
blowjobs tonight. Okay. No.

1098
00:47:56,595 --> 00:47:59,165
Okay. And again, it's
one of those weird things

1099
00:47:59,165 --> 00:48:00,845
where it is funny to me

1100
00:48:00,845 --> 00:48:03,405
because it's just a comedy of errors.

1101
00:48:03,795 --> 00:48:06,285
It's so typical of, of things

1102
00:48:06,405 --> 00:48:07,645
that happen with us to write about.

1103
00:48:07,645 --> 00:48:11,725
Now, I'm not upset that
there was no blow job.

1104
00:48:12,185 --> 00:48:16,845
I'm not, I wouldn't have been
put out if there had been like

1105
00:48:16,925 --> 00:48:18,525
I was down for whatever.

1106
00:48:18,665 --> 00:48:21,925
But it's sort of a, and
it happens to both of us.

1107
00:48:21,925 --> 00:48:23,725
Like JB can be kind of geared up

1108
00:48:24,265 --> 00:48:27,525
and he's like, he's rubbing
his junk up on my ass.

1109
00:48:27,725 --> 00:48:28,925
<laugh>. Like he's reciprocating.

1110
00:48:29,665 --> 00:48:32,365
And I have to kind of go,
I love you so much, daddy,

1111
00:48:32,425 --> 00:48:35,125
but here's my laundry
list of things going on

1112
00:48:35,125 --> 00:48:36,165
that maybe I didn't already mention.

1113
00:48:36,315 --> 00:48:40,805
Yeah. And <laugh>, it's
just the irony of it.

1114
00:48:41,025 --> 00:48:44,285
It it's been, we can want to do the things

1115
00:48:44,785 --> 00:48:47,325
and still not be able to do the things.

1116
00:48:47,435 --> 00:48:50,285
It's, it's been like a
comedy of errors. Oh God.

1117
00:48:50,465 --> 00:48:52,085
If we don't, I mean, if I don't laugh,

1118
00:48:52,185 --> 00:48:53,365
I'm just gonna start crying again.

1119
00:48:53,365 --> 00:48:55,325
And nobody wants that.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1120
00:48:55,505 --> 00:48:57,085
But you know what, it's so weird

1121
00:48:57,085 --> 00:48:59,645
because in that there's
a, there's a lot of

1122
00:48:59,645 --> 00:49:02,205
what we didn't do, but here's

1123
00:49:04,025 --> 00:49:06,045
my inner op, shiny glittery optimist.

1124
00:49:06,785 --> 00:49:09,605
Uh, it's like, but how long
has it been since we've

1125
00:49:09,605 --> 00:49:10,645
even joked about that?

1126
00:49:10,705 --> 00:49:12,725
Talked about that, tried to plan for it.

1127
00:49:12,725 --> 00:49:15,285
Like I can absolutely see where, where

1128
00:49:15,885 --> 00:49:18,125
somebody else would be super disappointed

1129
00:49:18,385 --> 00:49:21,005
and I mean, there was some
disappointment not enough for me

1130
00:49:21,005 --> 00:49:22,845
to like, be upset, but Yeah.

1131
00:49:22,945 --> 00:49:25,525
Do I wish that, you know,
we'd made good on that.

1132
00:49:25,555 --> 00:49:30,005
Sure, sure. But I'm actually more hopeful

1133
00:49:30,855 --> 00:49:33,445
about whatever's coming
down the road for us

1134
00:49:33,955 --> 00:49:37,045
because it's been a hot ass minute

1135
00:49:37,815 --> 00:49:39,845
since we could even
have that conversation.

1136
00:49:39,845 --> 00:49:42,805
Yeah. I could even have the desire

1137
00:49:43,105 --> 00:49:44,845
to be desired.

1138
00:49:44,875 --> 00:49:48,245
Like, like that's a step in
the right direction. Yes.

1139
00:49:48,425 --> 00:49:49,965
In the midst of chaos.

1140
00:49:50,155 --> 00:49:53,325
Like if my inner cynic
was allowed to drive,

1141
00:49:53,985 --> 00:49:57,005
she would be like, well of
course we come up with a plan

1142
00:49:57,105 --> 00:49:58,325
and still can't do it.

1143
00:49:58,325 --> 00:49:59,525
This is our <laugh>. No,

1144
00:49:59,585 --> 00:50:01,525
my inner optimist is like, shut up bitch.

1145
00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:05,205
Actually this is a good thing.
And this is a silver lining.

1146
00:50:05,355 --> 00:50:08,445
Yeah. Yeah. Because it means
we're, we we're still in,

1147
00:50:08,665 --> 00:50:09,925
in there somewhere.

1148
00:50:10,365 --> 00:50:13,605
<laugh> desperately clawing
our way out. Right. Yeah.

1149
00:50:13,955 --> 00:50:17,685
It's, I dunno, you know,

1150
00:50:17,685 --> 00:50:19,885
here's what's weird to me.

1151
00:50:20,305 --> 00:50:22,165
Not about this little check-in

1152
00:50:22,165 --> 00:50:23,365
and state of the union that we're doing,

1153
00:50:23,385 --> 00:50:28,285
but more of this specific
line of conversation.

1154
00:50:29,255 --> 00:50:32,765
There was a time in the
not that distant past,

1155
00:50:33,125 --> 00:50:34,565
I put my whole ass

1156
00:50:34,745 --> 00:50:36,805
and my whole ass sex life on the internet.

1157
00:50:36,805 --> 00:50:38,725
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay.
Openly. That's how we met.

1158
00:50:38,825 --> 00:50:41,645
Here's what I do. <laugh>,
here's what my junk looks like.

1159
00:50:41,695 --> 00:50:43,365
Y'all like I did that.

1160
00:50:43,905 --> 00:50:46,725
And yet we're sitting here in this space

1161
00:50:46,775 --> 00:50:50,205
where we primarily talk about the

1162
00:50:50,205 --> 00:50:51,685
relationship aspect of things.

1163
00:50:51,715 --> 00:50:54,445
Yeah. And it's been, it's very infrequent

1164
00:50:54,625 --> 00:50:57,325
and it's been a long time, I
think since we've been very

1165
00:50:58,085 --> 00:51:02,325
explicit about sex that I am like,

1166
00:51:02,565 --> 00:51:06,405
I can't believe I'm talking
about my sex life on a podcast

1167
00:51:06,755 --> 00:51:08,445
when, what started my life

1168
00:51:08,465 --> 00:51:11,005
as Kayla Lords was
talking about my sex life

1169
00:51:11,365 --> 00:51:14,725
<laugh>, I don't know.

1170
00:51:14,835 --> 00:51:17,805
Come full circle A little
bit. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah.

1171
00:51:18,365 --> 00:51:20,125
I think part of it's, 'cause I
know there's plenty of people

1172
00:51:20,125 --> 00:51:24,685
who don't know that side of
me, uh, who are like, why,

1173
00:51:24,785 --> 00:51:26,005
why are we getting this detail?

1174
00:51:26,075 --> 00:51:28,605
Well, 'cause I, if you
have, if you are new here,

1175
00:51:28,605 --> 00:51:30,525
you don't know I don't
have a filter <laugh>.

1176
00:51:32,555 --> 00:51:34,925
Yeah. I just, I don't know how

1177
00:51:34,925 --> 00:51:36,645
to not say all the things sometimes.

1178
00:51:36,645 --> 00:51:39,125
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, I dunno.
Okay. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1179
00:51:39,225 --> 00:51:41,525
So to, um,

1180
00:51:44,745 --> 00:51:48,765
to, how do I put this to
kind of close this up?

1181
00:51:48,765 --> 00:51:50,445
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Did I click on the screen

1182
00:51:50,505 --> 00:51:52,445
to see a thing and then
not look at the thing

1183
00:51:52,445 --> 00:51:53,885
and click away for another thing?

1184
00:51:53,885 --> 00:51:56,885
Yes, I did. <laugh>. Yeah,
you did. Yeah, you did.

1185
00:51:57,425 --> 00:52:02,205
Um, or is there anything?
And I the answer might be no.

1186
00:52:02,265 --> 00:52:04,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> from the

1187
00:52:04,465 --> 00:52:07,325
before, the past four years

1188
00:52:07,385 --> 00:52:10,845
or so where we've just
complained ad nauseum about our

1189
00:52:10,845 --> 00:52:13,485
fucking life, um, from the before times.

1190
00:52:13,485 --> 00:52:14,805
However, we wanna define the before times

1191
00:52:15,155 --> 00:52:17,765
that we no longer do, that we don't miss.

1192
00:52:18,105 --> 00:52:20,645
And I think it's valid to go
No, there's, there's nothing.

1193
00:52:21,185 --> 00:52:24,965
But are is there ways that
we were with one another

1194
00:52:25,585 --> 00:52:27,325
in power exchange that we don't really,

1195
00:52:27,325 --> 00:52:28,765
that we didn't miss
and that we don't miss?

1196
00:52:30,845 --> 00:52:31,885
I don't, I don't think so.

1197
00:52:34,165 --> 00:52:35,605
I don't know how long I did this

1198
00:52:35,605 --> 00:52:37,645
and maybe it just didn't last very long.

1199
00:52:38,985 --> 00:52:43,685
So sometimes I miss the,
you're like, you tell me what,

1200
00:52:43,685 --> 00:52:45,845
you give me the look that
you're halfway giving me now

1201
00:52:46,085 --> 00:52:47,365
<laugh>, you put your glasses on

1202
00:52:47,365 --> 00:52:50,125
because I don't know if I
could stand the heat from that,

1203
00:52:50,265 --> 00:52:53,525
but you would get all like stern

1204
00:52:53,585 --> 00:52:55,685
and like, tell me to do a thing.

1205
00:52:55,745 --> 00:52:56,885
And the expectation was,

1206
00:52:57,005 --> 00:53:00,045
I would do the thing right now in scene.

1207
00:53:00,795 --> 00:53:02,565
That would be lovely and hot. Yeah.

1208
00:53:03,585 --> 00:53:06,685
In life, every once in a
while I do you go, Mm-Hmm.

1209
00:53:06,685 --> 00:53:09,325
Baby girl, I need you
to whatever. I go, okay.

1210
00:53:09,325 --> 00:53:11,285
And I go do the thing. But
you don't have to be stern.

1211
00:53:11,285 --> 00:53:12,565
You get to be your daddy self.

1212
00:53:14,305 --> 00:53:17,845
But <laugh>, we now have lived
a power exchange life for

1213
00:53:17,845 --> 00:53:22,445
so long that I, most of
the time I have questions.

1214
00:53:22,805 --> 00:53:25,310
I would like more context, I
need more understanding. Yeah.

1215
00:53:25,315 --> 00:53:27,245
It's not a jump

1216
00:53:27,625 --> 00:53:30,285
and do without thought,

1217
00:53:30,285 --> 00:53:31,605
without thinking every once in a while.

1218
00:53:31,965 --> 00:53:33,365
Absolutely. Simple stuff. For sure.

1219
00:53:33,705 --> 00:53:37,605
If my mind has kind of been
on the lack of, you know,

1220
00:53:38,485 --> 00:53:40,525
behaving the way I would
like to as a submissive

1221
00:53:40,525 --> 00:53:41,645
for a while, yes.

1222
00:53:41,795 --> 00:53:44,725
It's much easier. But like,
in just the natural flow

1223
00:53:44,725 --> 00:53:46,365
of things when we're just existing Mm-Hmm.

1224
00:53:46,405 --> 00:53:47,925
<affirmative>, you might
ask me to do something,

1225
00:53:47,925 --> 00:53:49,005
but I'm gonna have questions

1226
00:53:49,105 --> 00:53:51,885
and you do not expect automatic obedience.

1227
00:53:52,025 --> 00:53:54,365
You Yeah. As long as I'm
not being a bitch about it.

1228
00:53:54,365 --> 00:53:55,325
You're like, yeah. You can ask

1229
00:53:55,525 --> 00:53:56,405
whatever questions you need to Sure.

1230
00:53:56,405 --> 00:53:58,085
We'll talk about it. I I know that you are

1231
00:53:58,085 --> 00:53:59,125
that anxious bitch

1232
00:53:59,265 --> 00:54:02,805
and I will do what I can
to soothe that part of you.

1233
00:54:02,805 --> 00:54:07,405
Yeah. Um, I don't really,

1234
00:54:07,685 --> 00:54:10,005
I in scene in a hot ass scene, yes.

1235
00:54:10,125 --> 00:54:12,285
I miss that immediate obedience,

1236
00:54:13,025 --> 00:54:15,765
but in the rest of our life,
I do not miss that at all.

1237
00:54:15,925 --> 00:54:20,325
- I know. I, and, and I kind
of know that because you've But

1238
00:54:20,325 --> 00:54:21,325
- Do you miss
- It?

1239
00:54:21,705 --> 00:54:25,885
Do I miss it <laugh>? To a
certain extent, yes. Because

1240
00:54:25,885 --> 00:54:27,685
- It makes your life easier, doesn't it?

1241
00:54:28,845 --> 00:54:31,445
- <laugh>? Well, it's,
it's not, it's, it's not

1242
00:54:31,445 --> 00:54:33,085
that it makes my life easier.

1243
00:54:33,385 --> 00:54:34,965
Mm. To a certain extent it does.

1244
00:54:35,705 --> 00:54:40,005
But in those moments when,

1245
00:54:40,195 --> 00:54:44,165
when I do that, that is for me,

1246
00:54:44,235 --> 00:54:46,725
like a spontaneous
flexing of those muscles.

1247
00:54:47,345 --> 00:54:48,345
Oh,

1248
00:54:49,225 --> 00:54:50,225
- Okay.

1249
00:54:50,225 --> 00:54:52,275
And then there I go and I
just poke holes in that,

1250
00:54:52,505 --> 00:54:53,715
that balloon <laugh>

1251
00:54:54,225 --> 00:54:55,635
with all my questions. <laugh>. But at,

1252
00:54:55,935 --> 00:54:57,315
- But at the, and,

1253
00:54:57,335 --> 00:55:01,555
and you know what the, the
question part of it, you know,

1254
00:55:01,675 --> 00:55:03,515
I know you well enough
after all these years

1255
00:55:03,615 --> 00:55:05,275
to know you are gonna have questions

1256
00:55:05,855 --> 00:55:07,315
and it's okay to ask questions.

1257
00:55:07,315 --> 00:55:08,595
There's nothing wrong with that.

1258
00:55:09,375 --> 00:55:13,115
But I also know I,

1259
00:55:15,765 --> 00:55:17,785
you don't have the
bandwidth for it either.

1260
00:55:20,165 --> 00:55:21,165
You, you don't.

1261
00:55:23,305 --> 00:55:26,825
- I, I think the, the hardest
part lately is we are not,

1262
00:55:27,045 --> 00:55:28,105
we are in sync

1263
00:55:28,105 --> 00:55:30,225
and in tune with one
another on a lot of levels.

1264
00:55:30,225 --> 00:55:31,785
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
which is kind of have to be,

1265
00:55:32,125 --> 00:55:35,825
but when it comes to, when you
wanna flex that down muscle

1266
00:55:35,965 --> 00:55:37,705
or when I'm like, like, oh,

1267
00:55:37,785 --> 00:55:40,945
I wanna feel super submissive
right now, this, that has not

1268
00:55:41,285 --> 00:55:42,745
yet lined back

1269
00:55:42,745 --> 00:55:43,945
- Up. No, it hasn't.

1270
00:55:43,945 --> 00:55:46,465
- We're not in sync there
- At all right now. No.

1271
00:55:46,605 --> 00:55:50,065
In in that aspect. I agree. Absolutely.

1272
00:55:50,725 --> 00:55:53,185
Um, I think,

1273
00:55:54,925 --> 00:55:58,385
and at least I hope so, um, that our,

1274
00:55:58,565 --> 00:56:00,865
our relationship as a whole.

1275
00:56:01,855 --> 00:56:04,345
Okay. Let, let's put the Ds aside.

1276
00:56:04,985 --> 00:56:09,945
I, I think with, with, with
all we have been doing, um,

1277
00:56:11,225 --> 00:56:13,745
I think overall our relationship is good.

1278
00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:17,425
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, because
we have kept an open line

1279
00:56:17,425 --> 00:56:21,985
of communication about
everything that is happening

1280
00:56:22,005 --> 00:56:23,365
and everything that is going on.

1281
00:56:23,425 --> 00:56:27,045
And, and we talk about it and,
and we share our feelings.

1282
00:56:27,185 --> 00:56:30,845
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay.
And, and I think that in

1283
00:56:30,845 --> 00:56:33,805
and of itself is important.

1284
00:56:33,985 --> 00:56:34,985
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1285
00:56:35,905 --> 00:56:39,005
- I'd like to believe that
there will come a day when

1286
00:56:39,835 --> 00:56:41,885
nothing might actually change about lives,

1287
00:56:41,945 --> 00:56:43,805
but we have just adjusted
to the transition.

1288
00:56:43,805 --> 00:56:44,805
Right? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>
like we are in a

1289
00:56:44,805 --> 00:56:46,085
transitionary period Yeah.

1290
00:56:46,175 --> 00:56:47,245
Where things have changed

1291
00:56:47,305 --> 00:56:49,445
and we have not settled into
whatever that looks like.

1292
00:56:49,445 --> 00:56:52,405
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And
whether things change again,

1293
00:56:52,405 --> 00:56:53,725
fundamentally for the positive

1294
00:56:53,745 --> 00:56:56,085
or we just settle in, which,
whichever that is Mm-Hmm.

1295
00:56:56,125 --> 00:56:59,565
<affirmative> when life calms
down in, in a new way again.

1296
00:56:59,975 --> 00:57:04,205
Right. That we can have

1297
00:57:05,345 --> 00:57:09,285
the conversation less
about the stressful stuff,

1298
00:57:10,265 --> 00:57:14,565
the future plan stuff, the
what's not working stuff.

1299
00:57:14,565 --> 00:57:17,325
Like, I think all of those
conversations are very important.

1300
00:57:17,325 --> 00:57:21,485
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But I need to

1301
00:57:22,675 --> 00:57:26,885
believe that there will come
a day where we can sit down

1302
00:57:26,885 --> 00:57:31,485
and go, okay, well yeah, we've
all, this is kind of handled

1303
00:57:31,625 --> 00:57:33,525
for right now's, we're
muddling through with it.

1304
00:57:33,525 --> 00:57:35,165
And it's, it's fine.

1305
00:57:35,555 --> 00:57:39,725
It's, you know, some of this
is back on, uh, autopilot now.

1306
00:57:41,185 --> 00:57:43,245
How, what do we want to do differently

1307
00:57:44,235 --> 00:57:46,885
from our power exchange
perspective and not just play?

1308
00:57:47,085 --> 00:57:50,565
'cause I, the, the thing about
play, I, I find in general,

1309
00:57:50,565 --> 00:57:53,165
over the past few years
where things have been wild,

1310
00:57:53,865 --> 00:57:56,685
we don't play nearly as
often as we'd like to.

1311
00:57:56,905 --> 00:57:59,565
No. But when we, when even one

1312
00:57:59,565 --> 00:58:02,565
of us gets a little bit
mindful about it, we,

1313
00:58:02,865 --> 00:58:04,445
we find those opportunities again.

1314
00:58:04,445 --> 00:58:06,365
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But in our power

1315
00:58:06,685 --> 00:58:07,805
exchange, beyond the,

1316
00:58:08,165 --> 00:58:09,845
- I mean, last week I did
call you out to the shop,

1317
00:58:09,845 --> 00:58:10,885
told you I needed some help,

1318
00:58:11,825 --> 00:58:14,765
and, uh, then bent you over,
bent you over the bench.

1319
00:58:15,185 --> 00:58:16,245
- Yes. And it was hilarious.

1320
00:58:16,525 --> 00:58:19,685
'cause our next door neighbor
was working in their backyard,

1321
00:58:20,605 --> 00:58:22,565
<laugh>, putting up some fence paneling.

1322
00:58:22,665 --> 00:58:24,125
And it was like an alternating,

1323
00:58:24,325 --> 00:58:26,485
I think we were using
maybe a staple gun or

1324
00:58:26,485 --> 00:58:27,485
- Something.

1325
00:58:27,485 --> 00:58:29,445
- Yeah. Something like a, a
pneumatic something. Mm-Hmm.

1326
00:58:29,485 --> 00:58:32,245
<affirmative>. And so there'd
be the smack from the paddle,

1327
00:58:32,255 --> 00:58:33,965
which was, it was like a crack.

1328
00:58:34,105 --> 00:58:37,245
It was so loud. And then
there'd be the crack

1329
00:58:37,265 --> 00:58:38,685
or whatever the tool was.

1330
00:58:38,685 --> 00:58:40,245
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
And they were alternating

1331
00:58:40,305 --> 00:58:41,405
for a hot minute <laugh>.

1332
00:58:41,405 --> 00:58:43,765
And I was like, I hope
whoever that is thinks

1333
00:58:43,765 --> 00:58:45,725
that we're working on our own Right.

1334
00:58:46,165 --> 00:58:49,285
Backyard project, but like,
we're better at looking for ways

1335
00:58:49,285 --> 00:58:51,605
to play when we're mindful of it.

1336
00:58:51,745 --> 00:58:54,445
Yes. That our problem is
we like lose sight of it

1337
00:58:54,445 --> 00:58:55,765
and we have to bring
ourselves back around.

1338
00:58:56,105 --> 00:58:58,645
But I think the play is the most obvious

1339
00:58:59,565 --> 00:59:00,805
physical, visceral thing.

1340
00:59:01,305 --> 00:59:03,205
So it's very noticeable
when it's gone. Mm-Hmm.

1341
00:59:03,245 --> 00:59:04,885
<affirmative> it's very
noticeable when we want it. Yeah.

1342
00:59:05,885 --> 00:59:08,165
Whatever. But when it
comes to the intricacies

1343
00:59:08,165 --> 00:59:12,445
of our dynamic outside of
what is just part of the,

1344
00:59:13,385 --> 00:59:15,445
the base layer of who we are together.

1345
00:59:15,445 --> 00:59:17,605
Right. You are always daddy,
you are always the decider.

1346
00:59:18,125 --> 00:59:19,165
I have set routines.

1347
00:59:19,385 --> 00:59:23,525
It is my default to want to
take care of and do for you.

1348
00:59:23,625 --> 00:59:24,605
So like, we don't even

1349
00:59:24,605 --> 00:59:25,445
have to really think about those things.

1350
00:59:25,465 --> 00:59:28,805
But when it comes to the,
you know, the little details

1351
00:59:28,825 --> 00:59:30,405
of like, I, I really wish you'd use

1352
00:59:30,405 --> 00:59:31,805
that tone of voice or I Mm-Hmm.

1353
00:59:31,845 --> 00:59:33,045
I like it when you give me that look.

1354
00:59:33,105 --> 00:59:35,405
Or it's been a hot minute since she's just

1355
00:59:35,475 --> 00:59:36,605
told me what to do.

1356
00:59:36,605 --> 00:59:38,525
Or those kinds of conversations. Right.

1357
00:59:38,545 --> 00:59:40,165
And then from your
perspective, it might be,

1358
00:59:40,165 --> 00:59:42,525
it's been a hot minute since
you just did what I told you

1359
00:59:42,525 --> 00:59:43,845
to do, and that would be really nice.

1360
00:59:43,845 --> 00:59:48,285
Right. I have to believe
there will come a point

1361
00:59:49,665 --> 00:59:51,325
in hopefully the not too distant future

1362
00:59:51,495 --> 00:59:54,885
where we can just have
that conversation where all

1363
00:59:54,885 --> 00:59:58,525
of the things that are like
boiling over right now are

1364
00:59:59,235 --> 01:00:00,645
calm enough Mm-Hmm.

1365
01:00:00,685 --> 01:00:02,765
<affirmative> that they get to
just be like in the periphery

1366
01:00:02,785 --> 01:00:04,845
for the 30 minutes that

1367
01:00:04,845 --> 01:00:06,325
that conversation takes. You know what

1368
01:00:06,325 --> 01:00:07,005
- I mean? Yes, yes,

1369
01:00:07,385 --> 01:00:08,385
- Yes.

1370
01:00:08,385 --> 01:00:11,365
And we can, we can be mindful
about that again. Mm-Hmm.

1371
01:00:11,405 --> 01:00:12,685
<affirmative>. Because
I think what's happened

1372
01:00:12,685 --> 01:00:15,405
for the past several years
and is continuing to happen,

1373
01:00:15,625 --> 01:00:17,685
but the reason that I wanted

1374
01:00:17,685 --> 01:00:19,805
to have this topic felt important is

1375
01:00:19,965 --> 01:00:21,885
'cause it continues to happen.

1376
01:00:22,065 --> 01:00:25,605
But I feel like I am missing the mark

1377
01:00:25,945 --> 01:00:28,525
as a submissive more
often now than I used to.

1378
01:00:28,665 --> 01:00:30,725
I'm forgetting more things.
I'm not doing things

1379
01:00:30,725 --> 01:00:32,005
as well as I used to, blah, blah, blah.

1380
01:00:33,035 --> 01:00:35,525
It's because we can't always be mindful

1381
01:00:36,145 --> 01:00:39,525
of those little details that
help us feel more connected.

1382
01:00:39,595 --> 01:00:42,205
Yeah. We have that base
layer of this is who we are

1383
01:00:42,205 --> 01:00:43,445
and how we interact in all things.

1384
01:00:43,445 --> 01:00:44,885
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
And we rely on that.

1385
01:00:44,885 --> 01:00:47,365
And we have relied on that for
the past several years. Yeah.

1386
01:00:47,405 --> 01:00:48,965
I think that was where
that train was going.

1387
01:00:49,465 --> 01:00:51,965
The thought kind of looped
and I missed it for me. Yeah.

1388
01:00:53,025 --> 01:00:56,765
And so that's, that's,
you know, I don't have,

1389
01:00:58,595 --> 01:01:00,085
it's not that I'm not optimistic.

1390
01:01:00,165 --> 01:01:02,805
I think it's that I'm
realistic enough to not be able

1391
01:01:02,805 --> 01:01:05,445
to go one day when we
have no problems again.

1392
01:01:05,475 --> 01:01:07,485
Like that's never, it's
never gonna be that way.

1393
01:01:07,665 --> 01:01:09,285
- And they're gonna be that.
I mean, that, that's totally,

1394
01:01:09,435 --> 01:01:10,805
it's, that's totally works.

1395
01:01:10,945 --> 01:01:12,645
That's unrealistic. Yeah. But,

1396
01:01:12,665 --> 01:01:17,165
- But right now there's so
many other things going on,

1397
01:01:17,665 --> 01:01:20,005
and some of them are going to be going on

1398
01:01:20,385 --> 01:01:22,645
for potentially a very long time Right.

1399
01:01:22,645 --> 01:01:25,325
Before they settle into whatever
the new normal is. Mm-Hmm.

1400
01:01:25,365 --> 01:01:26,805
<affirmative> that I,

1401
01:01:29,225 --> 01:01:33,485
all I can do now is I can't,

1402
01:01:33,845 --> 01:01:35,925
I don't, I don't know where
we would pull the time

1403
01:01:36,225 --> 01:01:38,725
to get more kink in, be
more mindful of one another,

1404
01:01:39,195 --> 01:01:43,405
have those deeper dom sub
moments that we're both missing.

1405
01:01:43,855 --> 01:01:48,605
Right. But what I can do
is try to be more mindful

1406
01:01:48,745 --> 01:01:50,045
of just my day to day.

1407
01:01:50,205 --> 01:01:53,485
I mean, I, you are so kind

1408
01:01:53,625 --> 01:01:56,845
and forgiving when I forget
something that has been a task

1409
01:01:56,905 --> 01:02:00,485
for 10 years, y'all like
this June of this year,

1410
01:02:00,665 --> 01:02:02,965
we will have lived
together for 10 years just

1411
01:02:02,965 --> 01:02:04,085
to like, this is, that's right.

1412
01:02:04,175 --> 01:02:06,765
We've got a lot of like
10 year things come up.

1413
01:02:06,905 --> 01:02:08,885
We have been for over a year now,

1414
01:02:09,465 --> 01:02:11,165
and I've been doing some of these things

1415
01:02:11,185 --> 01:02:12,565
for almost 10 years.

1416
01:02:13,385 --> 01:02:16,365
And you've always been,
especially once it became habit

1417
01:02:16,385 --> 01:02:18,165
and you knew that for me
to forget that was weird.

1418
01:02:18,215 --> 01:02:20,405
Right. You know, you've
always been very forgiving

1419
01:02:20,425 --> 01:02:21,525
and very understanding,

1420
01:02:21,745 --> 01:02:23,365
and I can't even remember
what the fuck it was.

1421
01:02:23,525 --> 01:02:25,605
I did forget, but I forgot something.

1422
01:02:25,625 --> 01:02:27,405
It was, it was a coffee related thing

1423
01:02:28,465 --> 01:02:30,005
and it threw things off

1424
01:02:30,005 --> 01:02:31,285
and you couldn't have what you wanted.

1425
01:02:31,425 --> 01:02:33,045
And I'm not the type that walks

1426
01:02:33,045 --> 01:02:34,285
around feeling like I'm failing.

1427
01:02:35,395 --> 01:02:36,765
I'll tell you, I feel like I'm failing

1428
01:02:36,825 --> 01:02:38,445
as a mother more often than not.

1429
01:02:38,665 --> 01:02:40,565
I'm failing as a an as

1430
01:02:40,585 --> 01:02:42,485
as an adult who's supposed
to have our shit together.

1431
01:02:42,625 --> 01:02:44,045
But I'm not the type who walks

1432
01:02:44,045 --> 01:02:46,405
around feeling like I have
failed as a submissive.

1433
01:02:46,405 --> 01:02:48,245
Like, I'm, I don't think I'm doing

1434
01:02:48,245 --> 01:02:49,485
as much as I would like to do.

1435
01:02:49,605 --> 01:02:53,525
I don't think that I'm giving
you as much as I once did,

1436
01:02:53,555 --> 01:02:55,525
like those things I'm, I
feel like I'm very aware of,

1437
01:02:55,525 --> 01:02:56,965
but I never feel like I'm failing.

1438
01:02:57,945 --> 01:03:00,925
And recently having forgotten small things

1439
01:03:00,925 --> 01:03:02,085
that then made life harder

1440
01:03:02,105 --> 01:03:04,245
and made it so you couldn't
have exactly what you wanted.

1441
01:03:05,315 --> 01:03:07,725
That was what I felt like, I was like,

1442
01:03:07,725 --> 01:03:09,365
I feel like I'm failing at this now.

1443
01:03:09,865 --> 01:03:11,725
Is that because there's
so much else going on

1444
01:03:11,725 --> 01:03:13,365
that I already have those feelings

1445
01:03:13,365 --> 01:03:14,965
and I'm kind of primed to feel that way.

1446
01:03:14,965 --> 01:03:16,525
Yeah. And under different circumstances

1447
01:03:16,685 --> 01:03:17,725
I would never see it that way.

1448
01:03:17,985 --> 01:03:22,405
Yes. But also that there's
something there when

1449
01:03:22,405 --> 01:03:24,005
that's the thought that comes to mind.

1450
01:03:24,265 --> 01:03:27,045
You know, I know you don't
think I am. Mm-Hmm. I know that.

1451
01:03:27,565 --> 01:03:29,045
I know. You would never tell me that.

1452
01:03:29,075 --> 01:03:31,085
Even if you thought I was
falling down on the job,

1453
01:03:31,105 --> 01:03:34,285
you would never say it
that way. And you're

1454
01:03:34,515 --> 01:03:35,965
- Extremely understanding.

1455
01:03:36,045 --> 01:03:38,165
I I, I'd be more apt to ask you

1456
01:03:38,865 --> 01:03:40,885
what's going on, what's the matter? Right.

1457
01:03:41,325 --> 01:03:44,725
- <laugh>. And yet, I, this
was the impetus for this kind

1458
01:03:44,725 --> 01:03:48,925
of conversation because I was
like, I am missing so much of

1459
01:03:48,925 --> 01:03:51,485
what we were able to do

1460
01:03:51,545 --> 01:03:54,325
and who we were able to
be not even that long ago,

1461
01:03:54,795 --> 01:03:56,285
that we just can't right now.

1462
01:03:56,545 --> 01:04:00,325
And while the realistic side
of my brain understands Yes.

1463
01:04:00,705 --> 01:04:02,765
One, that there's a, there's
valid reasons for this,

1464
01:04:02,765 --> 01:04:03,925
and two, that this is not forever,

1465
01:04:04,665 --> 01:04:05,725
it doesn't change the fact

1466
01:04:05,725 --> 01:04:08,205
that it feels like an ongoing pattern.

1467
01:04:08,905 --> 01:04:11,685
And that sometimes my inner glittery

1468
01:04:12,485 --> 01:04:15,685
optimist just can't muster
up the fucking optimist.

1469
01:04:16,285 --> 01:04:17,285
<laugh>.

1470
01:04:18,545 --> 01:04:19,765
- Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1471
01:04:20,905 --> 01:04:24,445
- But I mean, I'm,

1472
01:04:25,445 --> 01:04:27,565
I I don't know if I'm
feeling more optimistic,

1473
01:04:27,565 --> 01:04:31,725
but I'm feeling less shitty
after the past hour or so.

1474
01:04:32,155 --> 01:04:33,445
- Yeah.
- I don't know

1475
01:04:33,445 --> 01:04:34,725
what anybody else is getting from it,

1476
01:04:34,725 --> 01:04:37,365
but I'm feeling less awful.

1477
01:04:37,885 --> 01:04:41,925
<laugh> I started out with
How, how are you feeling?

1478
01:04:42,305 --> 01:04:46,045
- Um, I, I, I feel okay.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1479
01:04:46,665 --> 01:04:50,285
Um, it's, since we had not really

1480
01:04:50,945 --> 01:04:55,165
talked about this, you
know, between ourselves,

1481
01:04:55,875 --> 01:04:58,085
because we've been talking
about so many other things,

1482
01:04:58,085 --> 01:04:59,245
- There's always, yeah. There's always

1483
01:04:59,245 --> 01:05:00,805
- Something else, you
know, needs our attention.

1484
01:05:00,955 --> 01:05:02,205
It's kind of nice to know

1485
01:05:02,205 --> 01:05:04,405
that you are on the same page as I am.

1486
01:05:06,075 --> 01:05:08,805
- Yeah. I, I can see, I know <laugh>,

1487
01:05:09,725 --> 01:05:12,085
I know I'm really bad
at, at closing myself off

1488
01:05:12,425 --> 01:05:14,845
and just kind of going into
my own head and like Mm-Hmm.

1489
01:05:14,885 --> 01:05:15,845
<affirmative> trying to solve the

1490
01:05:15,845 --> 01:05:16,845
world's problems on my own.

1491
01:05:17,465 --> 01:05:22,445
Um, and I don't always read you

1492
01:05:22,445 --> 01:05:24,805
or anybody else, but even you,
I don't always read you well.

1493
01:05:25,265 --> 01:05:27,245
So like, it's weird that you're like,

1494
01:05:27,245 --> 01:05:28,405
okay, I'm glad I'm not the only one.

1495
01:05:28,405 --> 01:05:30,485
And I'm over here having that
moment of, oh, okay, good.

1496
01:05:30,545 --> 01:05:33,405
I'm not the only one. Like,
the moment you said that,

1497
01:05:33,405 --> 01:05:35,485
it's like, of course he
was feeling that way.

1498
01:05:35,705 --> 01:05:37,845
Of course he was, but it wasn't,

1499
01:05:37,845 --> 01:05:39,845
it did not compute until this moment.

1500
01:05:40,635 --> 01:05:44,525
- Yeah.
- Uh, I don't, I don't know how

1501
01:05:44,525 --> 01:05:46,005
to end this conversation.

1502
01:05:46,005 --> 01:05:47,685
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> between
us. I know how to end that.

1503
01:05:47,955 --> 01:05:49,965
Yeah. That being y'all. Yeah. <laugh>.

1504
01:05:50,485 --> 01:05:54,165
I I guess we can, I can just stop now.

1505
01:05:54,165 --> 01:05:55,365
Do you have any final thoughts

1506
01:05:56,345 --> 01:05:57,345
- On this?

1507
01:05:57,345 --> 01:05:58,365
No, I think I've, I've pretty much,

1508
01:05:58,675 --> 01:05:59,675
- Yeah.

1509
01:05:59,675 --> 01:06:00,685
I can't, I can't tie it up in a little

1510
01:06:00,685 --> 01:06:01,805
bow and give a resolution

1511
01:06:01,805 --> 01:06:02,805
- Because it's just No.

1512
01:06:02,805 --> 01:06:05,045
And, and it's, it's, it's
not something at this point

1513
01:06:05,155 --> 01:06:08,725
that you can just tie up
with a ribbon and, you know,

1514
01:06:09,045 --> 01:06:10,285
- I mean, you could tie
me up with a ribbon,

1515
01:06:10,425 --> 01:06:12,165
but when do we have time

1516
01:06:12,605 --> 01:06:13,605
- <laugh>?

1517
01:06:13,605 --> 01:06:15,845
- Yeah. And if you fell asleep
while I was tied up Yeah.

1518
01:06:16,085 --> 01:06:18,125
I would be pissed about that <laugh>.

1519
01:06:20,395 --> 01:06:21,645
That one would upset me.

1520
01:06:22,085 --> 01:06:24,125
- <laugh> <laugh>
- Because knowing my luck,

1521
01:06:24,505 --> 01:06:27,085
the safety scissors would
be like not near me.

1522
01:06:27,555 --> 01:06:28,555
Yeah.

1523
01:06:30,385 --> 01:06:34,965
- So, yeah. You know, it's, uh, yeah.

1524
01:06:35,835 --> 01:06:38,245
- Yeah. We're here. Mm-Hmm.
<affirmative>. I love you.

1525
01:06:38,605 --> 01:06:40,965
- I love you too.
- I'm happy to be your submissive.

1526
01:06:41,425 --> 01:06:42,885
- I'm happy to be your daddy. Daddy.

1527
01:06:42,915 --> 01:06:44,365
- Dumb. I would like to be a better

1528
01:06:44,365 --> 01:06:45,525
submissive, but, you know,

1529
01:06:46,355 --> 01:06:47,355
- Work in progress.

1530
01:06:47,355 --> 01:06:51,365
I, I, I think, you know, it's all a,

1531
01:06:51,485 --> 01:06:53,125
a work in progress for all of us.

1532
01:06:53,125 --> 01:06:54,725
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and
I, I think that's, um,

1533
01:06:56,315 --> 01:06:57,525
kind of what it's all about.

1534
01:06:57,785 --> 01:06:59,325
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and understanding

1535
01:06:59,325 --> 01:07:01,685
that it's a work in progress and Yeah.

1536
01:07:02,945 --> 01:07:04,645
- And I have to remember that
sometimes you can just sit

1537
01:07:04,645 --> 01:07:06,365
down and have a conversation
and there won't be a

1538
01:07:06,605 --> 01:07:07,885
resolution, but that doesn't mean

1539
01:07:08,165 --> 01:07:09,645
that the conversation isn't worth having.

1540
01:07:09,655 --> 01:07:11,525
Right. You know, me, I'm a fixer.

1541
01:07:11,745 --> 01:07:12,765
If we're gonna sit down

1542
01:07:13,185 --> 01:07:14,485
and talk about a thing, I want us

1543
01:07:14,485 --> 01:07:16,045
to also come up with all the solutions and

1544
01:07:16,245 --> 01:07:17,245
- I Susan to fix it all and,

1545
01:07:17,265 --> 01:07:18,845
- And then implement them
and make life better.

1546
01:07:18,945 --> 01:07:20,405
- And that's not always the case though.

1547
01:07:20,505 --> 01:07:22,325
- And then what even is
the point if we can't do

1548
01:07:22,325 --> 01:07:27,285
that <laugh>, I, I know who I am, y'all.

1549
01:07:27,565 --> 01:07:31,325
I do <laugh>. So that might be a

1550
01:07:32,395 --> 01:07:33,845
dissatisfying end for anybody

1551
01:07:34,025 --> 01:07:36,685
who also likes little neat bow Mm-Hmm.

1552
01:07:36,725 --> 01:07:38,165
<affirmative> res, uh,
resolutions. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1553
01:07:38,395 --> 01:07:40,325
What I'll say is I don't, I don't know

1554
01:07:40,325 --> 01:07:41,765
what anybody would've gotten
out of this other than,

1555
01:07:41,765 --> 01:07:43,565
oh my God, would these
two shut the fuck up about

1556
01:07:43,565 --> 01:07:44,725
their personal problems.

1557
01:07:44,815 --> 01:07:46,605
Right. Uh, that's fair.

1558
01:07:47,065 --> 01:07:48,485
Um, I,

1559
01:07:48,645 --> 01:07:51,245
I guess the thing I would
hope anybody else walks away

1560
01:07:51,245 --> 01:07:54,725
with is, is this, that
even if you can't come up

1561
01:07:54,725 --> 01:07:56,485
with a resolution, you
know, there's no resolution

1562
01:07:56,625 --> 01:07:58,405
and you can't change anything
about what's going on.

1563
01:07:58,405 --> 01:07:59,365
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
it's still worth having

1564
01:07:59,365 --> 01:08:00,045
the conversation.

1565
01:08:00,795 --> 01:08:03,685
Yeah. And check-ins aren't,

1566
01:08:04,955 --> 01:08:07,685
they never have been just for
when things are going well.

1567
01:08:08,345 --> 01:08:11,085
Um, or you're trying
to, like, you get you,

1568
01:08:11,865 --> 01:08:15,805
or for when you can focus
on your power exchange.

1569
01:08:16,365 --> 01:08:19,485
I think they're equally, if not
more important when you know

1570
01:08:19,485 --> 01:08:21,845
that you haven't been able to
focus on your power exchange.

1571
01:08:21,845 --> 01:08:25,245
Because then the check-in
becomes a, Hey, uh,

1572
01:08:25,265 --> 01:08:28,685
let me acknowledge what, where
I'm maybe not doing my best.

1573
01:08:28,975 --> 01:08:30,365
Let's talk about what's going on.

1574
01:08:30,535 --> 01:08:33,245
Let's make sure we're still on
the same page because Mm-Hmm.

1575
01:08:33,285 --> 01:08:36,085
<affirmative> that has been the
hardest thing is when I feel

1576
01:08:36,085 --> 01:08:37,245
disconnected from you.

1577
01:08:37,465 --> 01:08:41,365
Not in the, it's so weird when
I feel disconnected from JB

1578
01:08:41,365 --> 01:08:42,805
because he is going through something

1579
01:08:42,805 --> 01:08:45,245
and has pulled away from
me, I find that intolerable

1580
01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:48,245
and unbearable <laugh>, and
we are going to solve that.

1581
01:08:49,145 --> 01:08:51,885
- But
- When I feel disconnected, either

1582
01:08:52,045 --> 01:08:54,285
because I'm going through
my own shit Mm-Hmm.

1583
01:08:54,325 --> 01:08:56,485
<affirmative> or because
we're both being pulled

1584
01:08:57,265 --> 01:08:58,485
in different directions

1585
01:08:58,545 --> 01:09:00,725
and it's ha it's, uh,
happening at the same time.

1586
01:09:00,725 --> 01:09:02,965
So I'm not focusing on how
you've pulled away from me

1587
01:09:03,725 --> 01:09:05,325
'cause it, we're, we're just,

1588
01:09:05,745 --> 01:09:06,845
it feels like we're pulling away

1589
01:09:07,005 --> 01:09:08,245
together, if that makes any sense.

1590
01:09:08,565 --> 01:09:12,285
Probably not. Um, and then
I lost the train of thought,

1591
01:09:12,665 --> 01:09:16,565
but <laugh>, when we can sit down

1592
01:09:16,585 --> 01:09:20,285
and talk about it, I feel less alone.

1593
01:09:20,945 --> 01:09:24,605
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and
things are still what they are,

1594
01:09:24,745 --> 01:09:28,085
but they don't feel as unbearable. Right.

1595
01:09:28,395 --> 01:09:31,365
- Well, I I'm, I'm, I'm going to try

1596
01:09:31,365 --> 01:09:32,605
and finish your train of thought

1597
01:09:32,605 --> 01:09:33,725
that you lost a little bit there

1598
01:09:33,725 --> 01:09:37,285
because you were saying how
when, when I pull myself away,

1599
01:09:37,745 --> 01:09:39,645
you jump in and you wanna fix it. Yeah.

1600
01:09:39,965 --> 01:09:41,085
- I can't, I can't handle it. You,

1601
01:09:41,145 --> 01:09:42,445
- You gotta reconnect to me and I

1602
01:09:42,445 --> 01:09:46,245
and when you pull away,
you're just like, no.

1603
01:09:46,555 --> 01:09:47,555
Back. Get away.

1604
01:09:48,585 --> 01:09:51,245
- Oh, I'm, uh, we might joke
about how I'm a Scorpio bitch,

1605
01:09:51,305 --> 01:09:55,405
but that is probably never
truer than when I'm, I'm sort

1606
01:09:55,405 --> 01:09:56,525
of self isolating Yeah.

1607
01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:58,405
And closed off. Yeah.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1608
01:09:58,605 --> 01:10:01,085
'cause I get it in my head that
my problems aren't solvable,

1609
01:10:01,305 --> 01:10:03,325
but if I can just so nobody can help me.

1610
01:10:03,585 --> 01:10:06,605
But if I can just obsess
over the problems problem,

1611
01:10:06,605 --> 01:10:09,965
I'll come up with a solution
<laugh> and fix it myself.

1612
01:10:11,925 --> 01:10:15,525
I could, I could probably
keep a therapist in Starbucks

1613
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:19,605
for life if I would just
go see one, uh, <laugh>

1614
01:10:21,785 --> 01:10:24,165
so much to unpack, so
much to unpack <laugh>.

1615
01:10:24,825 --> 01:10:28,885
Um, so yeah.

1616
01:10:29,125 --> 01:10:33,085
I, you know, nothing necessary to learn

1617
01:10:33,975 --> 01:10:37,285
other than that JB accidentally
turned down a blow job.

1618
01:10:37,685 --> 01:10:40,045
<laugh>. Um,

1619
01:10:40,225 --> 01:10:44,965
but if it prompts you to have
your own conversations Yeah.

1620
01:10:44,985 --> 01:10:46,205
And I think that's a good thing. Mm-Hmm.

1621
01:10:46,245 --> 01:10:48,165
<affirmative> I think that that, um,

1622
01:10:48,995 --> 01:10:50,765
even when you can't fix it, talking

1623
01:10:50,765 --> 01:10:52,845
through it is still
helpful on, and sometimes

1624
01:10:52,845 --> 01:10:54,125
- It's helpful just to talk about

1625
01:10:54,125 --> 01:10:55,125
- It.

1626
01:10:55,125 --> 01:10:56,125
Yeah. And sometimes I avoid that

1627
01:10:56,125 --> 01:10:57,845
because I'm like, I don't wanna
talk about a thing I can't

1628
01:10:57,845 --> 01:11:01,165
solve because that's just
reminding me that Yeah.

1629
01:11:01,195 --> 01:11:02,445
That I can't solve the problem.

1630
01:11:02,955 --> 01:11:04,685
- Yeah.
- But you know what it,

1631
01:11:05,135 --> 01:11:07,485
those times I'm not meant
to have that conversation.

1632
01:11:07,485 --> 01:11:11,325
And then there will come a
moment where I'm like, I just,

1633
01:11:11,445 --> 01:11:13,085
I wanna, I wanna be with my daddy

1634
01:11:13,265 --> 01:11:14,965
and let's just have a conversation

1635
01:11:15,065 --> 01:11:16,325
and wherever it goes, it goes.

1636
01:11:16,385 --> 01:11:17,765
And then I can talk about that.

1637
01:11:19,595 --> 01:11:21,445
It's helpful if you put it on the internet

1638
01:11:21,445 --> 01:11:23,285
and you give yourself, uh, an audience

1639
01:11:23,605 --> 01:11:24,085
- <laugh>. Yeah. Right.

1640
01:11:24,865 --> 01:11:29,445
- Uh, <laugh> your mileage
may vary. <laugh>. Um, okay.

1641
01:11:29,635 --> 01:11:31,885
Alright. That's, that's a lot from us.

1642
01:11:32,205 --> 01:11:34,605
I, if it makes anybody feel any better,

1643
01:11:34,715 --> 01:11:36,485
I've already planned
out next week's episode

1644
01:11:36,545 --> 01:11:40,925
and it should not be this fucking
heavy <laugh> or whatever.

1645
01:11:40,925 --> 01:11:43,725
This was, this next week
I think will be a fun one.

1646
01:11:43,845 --> 01:11:46,965
'cause we haven't done it in
a few weeks, so. Okay. Okay.

1647
01:11:46,965 --> 01:11:49,045
Yeah. We can do a bonus section. Okay.

1648
01:11:50,345 --> 01:11:53,845
- So, uh, are we good?
- I'm probably not the one to ask

1649
01:11:54,525 --> 01:11:55,525
- <laugh>.

1650
01:11:55,525 --> 01:11:58,285
<laugh>. Keep it kinky

1651
01:11:58,285 --> 01:11:59,285
- Y'all.

1652
01:11:59,285 --> 01:11:59,285
And we'll see you

1653
01:12:09,185 --> 01:12:09,965
all. Todd.

1654
01:12:10,825 --> 01:12:13,205
- Yes, baby girl.
- Can I talk to the crickets?

1655
01:12:14,635 --> 01:12:17,725
- Sure.
- I don't know what to say, <laugh>.

1656
01:12:18,725 --> 01:12:20,165
- I mean, I got Nope, now
you gotta say something.

1657
01:12:20,165 --> 01:12:22,645
I know you asked to talk and
I gave you permission, so I've

1658
01:12:22,645 --> 01:12:24,285
- Got like a laundry list
of things that are going on.

1659
01:12:24,605 --> 01:12:26,685
I don't, sometimes I get very

1660
01:12:27,005 --> 01:12:28,325
self-conscious about the bonus section.

1661
01:12:28,645 --> 01:12:32,005
'cause I, I am imagine the
meanest possible person

1662
01:12:32,025 --> 01:12:33,965
who could come across our
content who doesn't know us

1663
01:12:34,185 --> 01:12:36,605
and be like, why the fuck
are you telling anybody this?

1664
01:12:36,765 --> 01:12:38,485
I am not nice to myself.

1665
01:12:39,435 --> 01:12:42,885
When life gets stressful,
just <laugh>, I default to

1666
01:12:43,585 --> 01:12:45,885
the meanest voice in my head possible.

1667
01:12:46,155 --> 01:12:48,725
It's, I, I'm not happy about it,

1668
01:12:48,945 --> 01:12:50,205
but I do recognize what happens.

1669
01:12:50,765 --> 01:12:53,005
<laugh>. So let's see. I'll
go through the laundry list.

1670
01:12:53,305 --> 01:12:57,685
Um, I somehow convinced, uh, uh,

1671
01:12:58,645 --> 01:12:59,965
a doctor I really don't vibe with

1672
01:12:59,985 --> 01:13:01,405
to please give me my estrogen

1673
01:13:01,405 --> 01:13:06,325
and testosterone back then
I'm miserable, uh, without,

1674
01:13:06,845 --> 01:13:09,565
I no longer have a, a uterus or a cervix.

1675
01:13:09,625 --> 01:13:13,885
And so those, uh, uh,
hormones are like wonky,

1676
01:13:13,885 --> 01:13:15,525
but they were wonky even when I did have

1677
01:13:15,525 --> 01:13:16,605
all of the, the plumbing.

1678
01:13:16,745 --> 01:13:18,925
And so please let me have
that medication back. <laugh>.

1679
01:13:18,965 --> 01:13:21,765
I am miserable. And she reluctantly did.

1680
01:13:23,305 --> 01:13:26,605
Um, I've only been on it
a few days, so I don't,

1681
01:13:27,475 --> 01:13:29,925
it's not long, not been
long enough for anything.

1682
01:13:30,425 --> 01:13:32,605
But it's, it's, I feel like it's a

1683
01:13:32,605 --> 01:13:33,685
step in the right direction.

1684
01:13:33,685 --> 01:13:35,285
Which, it's weird.

1685
01:13:35,585 --> 01:13:37,325
I'd only been off the
medication for like three

1686
01:13:37,325 --> 01:13:40,485
and a half, four months, but
it was all happening in the

1687
01:13:40,485 --> 01:13:41,365
midst of all these other

1688
01:13:41,365 --> 01:13:42,525
changes that have been taking place.

1689
01:13:42,545 --> 01:13:44,925
And so I stopped feeling
hopeful about anything. Mm-Hmm.

1690
01:13:44,965 --> 01:13:46,085
<affirmative>. And then
getting that one change,

1691
01:13:46,085 --> 01:13:47,445
even though she was so reluctant.

1692
01:13:47,445 --> 01:13:50,445
And she's just not a doctor I vibe with.

1693
01:13:51,065 --> 01:13:53,645
Um, but I also don't have the mental

1694
01:13:53,665 --> 01:13:55,005
energy to go look for another doctor.

1695
01:13:55,065 --> 01:13:57,045
So it's like, what the fuck ever, um,

1696
01:13:57,755 --> 01:13:59,165
that I felt like I felt hopeful.

1697
01:13:59,385 --> 01:14:00,965
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> when she
was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1698
01:14:00,965 --> 01:14:04,005
And then of course she was slow to move

1699
01:14:04,145 --> 01:14:06,285
to get me the prescriptions that I need.

1700
01:14:06,305 --> 01:14:09,085
And I had to do some stuff
to make it happen on my own.

1701
01:14:09,165 --> 01:14:11,005
I had to work for it,
but, you know, whatever.

1702
01:14:11,085 --> 01:14:13,485
At least I got it. Um, I'm
finally gonna go to a doctor,

1703
01:14:13,625 --> 01:14:16,725
my doctor on Friday about
whatever's going on with my arms.

1704
01:14:16,725 --> 01:14:18,165
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> neck and shoulders,

1705
01:14:18,735 --> 01:14:21,405
which has been keeping me
from sleeping a full night

1706
01:14:21,545 --> 01:14:24,165
for a year at this point.

1707
01:14:24,165 --> 01:14:26,685
Maybe. Hmm. Maybe not quite that long,

1708
01:14:26,705 --> 01:14:27,725
- But No, not quite that long.

1709
01:14:27,955 --> 01:14:31,725
- Well, definitely almost six
months, but maybe, Mm-Hmm.

1710
01:14:31,765 --> 01:14:33,525
<affirmative>, I don't know. So I am,

1711
01:14:33,545 --> 01:14:36,245
uh, I'm looking forward to that.

1712
01:14:36,325 --> 01:14:38,205
I don't know that. I think
all she's gonna do is go,

1713
01:14:38,285 --> 01:14:39,365
I think I need to refer you

1714
01:14:39,365 --> 01:14:41,925
to the orthopedic doctor
and I'll be like, okay.

1715
01:14:42,485 --> 01:14:44,005
- Probably send you for
an X-ray first. Yeah.

1716
01:14:44,005 --> 01:14:46,165
- They usually do. I, I think
the question I'm gonna be is,

1717
01:14:46,265 --> 01:14:48,205
is there anything you can
give me that will help

1718
01:14:48,205 --> 01:14:49,485
with this pain at night?

1719
01:14:49,635 --> 01:14:52,205
Because I would like to
try to sleep again. Thanks.

1720
01:14:52,785 --> 01:14:54,245
Um, I know that's part of a lot

1721
01:14:54,245 --> 01:14:56,485
of my emotional problems is
I'm just not sleeping well.

1722
01:14:56,665 --> 01:14:58,445
And that will fuck you up For sure.

1723
01:14:59,065 --> 01:15:01,125
Um, what else is on my
laundry list of things?

1724
01:15:01,665 --> 01:15:05,205
Um, we're gonna go on our
little road trip to buy Yes.

1725
01:15:05,455 --> 01:15:06,725
Micah. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, which

1726
01:15:06,725 --> 01:15:07,805
is what we use in our resin.

1727
01:15:07,805 --> 01:15:09,365
For anybody who's like,
what the fuck is Micah?

1728
01:15:09,875 --> 01:15:11,405
It's colored and pigment.

1729
01:15:11,595 --> 01:15:13,765
- Well, the, the place
we've been buying from,

1730
01:15:13,835 --> 01:15:15,445
they're here in Florida.

1731
01:15:15,585 --> 01:15:17,805
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and,
um Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

1732
01:15:17,975 --> 01:15:20,485
We've been really, really pleased

1733
01:15:20,595 --> 01:15:22,805
with their product and their colors.

1734
01:15:23,945 --> 01:15:25,205
Um, we,

1735
01:15:26,415 --> 01:15:29,005
while shopping on the internet is well

1736
01:15:29,005 --> 01:15:31,725
and good, sometimes you don't get a true

1737
01:15:31,725 --> 01:15:33,005
representation of the color.

1738
01:15:33,025 --> 01:15:34,445
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> online.

1739
01:15:35,265 --> 01:15:39,765
So we, uh, want to go see
what they have in person. Yep.

1740
01:15:40,065 --> 01:15:42,885
- Yep. We had always told
ourself if we ever got

1741
01:15:42,885 --> 01:15:44,365
to go shop in person, we would,

1742
01:15:44,425 --> 01:15:46,485
we would just buy everything
we wanted that <laugh>.

1743
01:15:47,425 --> 01:15:49,805
We are adorable. We're
gonna go in with a list

1744
01:15:49,805 --> 01:15:51,085
and a budget, but that's okay.

1745
01:15:51,085 --> 01:15:55,725
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. That's okay. Um, so

1746
01:15:57,355 --> 01:15:58,605
yeah, we're doing that this weekend.

1747
01:15:58,945 --> 01:16:02,565
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um,
the 18-year-old has a concert

1748
01:16:02,955 --> 01:16:05,845
this Thursday night
that we're gonna go see.

1749
01:16:06,425 --> 01:16:08,645
I'm very excited about that.
I've not seen the child since

1750
01:16:09,345 --> 01:16:10,725
- That's right. Tomorrow
night. Oh my. Yeah.

1751
01:16:10,725 --> 01:16:12,365
- Oh my God. When was the
last time I saw that child?

1752
01:16:14,385 --> 01:16:18,485
- Um, would've been back in
December. mid-December though. I

1753
01:16:18,635 --> 01:16:21,325
- Late December when he
came home for Chris. Oh

1754
01:16:21,325 --> 01:16:24,325
- My, when your mom
- No, he came home for Christmas

1755
01:16:24,565 --> 01:16:25,965
'cause he went to the concert with us.

1756
01:16:27,065 --> 01:16:29,325
- Oh, that. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. The TSO.

1757
01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,045
- Has that been the last time I saw

1758
01:16:31,785 --> 01:16:34,365
my baby boy who is not a baby boy?

1759
01:16:34,365 --> 01:16:37,245
He's a fucking adult, but
whatever, whatever. Oh my god.

1760
01:16:37,465 --> 01:16:38,605
Has it really been that long?

1761
01:16:38,965 --> 01:16:40,525
- I just saw him this past weekend. I

1762
01:16:40,525 --> 01:16:41,525
- Know.

1763
01:16:41,525 --> 01:16:43,005
And you saw him a couple
weekends before. Yeah.

1764
01:16:44,065 --> 01:16:45,205
But yeah, we're gonna see him

1765
01:16:45,205 --> 01:16:47,645
and he's gonna hate it when
I like hang on his neck

1766
01:16:47,665 --> 01:16:49,325
for like longer than he probably wants

1767
01:16:49,605 --> 01:16:50,605
- <laugh> because I'll be like,

1768
01:16:50,885 --> 01:16:51,885
- I have missed you.

1769
01:16:52,385 --> 01:16:54,965
Um, but yeah, we're gonna go
watch his concert on Thursday.

1770
01:16:55,905 --> 01:16:58,365
Um, oh, this is the,

1771
01:16:58,585 --> 01:17:01,205
the youngest has lots of
doctor's appointments.

1772
01:17:01,205 --> 01:17:02,565
There's just lots of stuff going on.

1773
01:17:03,065 --> 01:17:05,445
But I did have a win this week, so

1774
01:17:06,285 --> 01:17:08,885
pediatrician was not helpful.

1775
01:17:09,265 --> 01:17:10,365
But I always start with the

1776
01:17:10,365 --> 01:17:11,805
pediatrician when it's like new stuff.

1777
01:17:11,805 --> 01:17:14,765
Like take a look, make,
make sure like it's,

1778
01:17:14,795 --> 01:17:16,405
tell me if it's something
that like you need

1779
01:17:16,405 --> 01:17:17,925
to prescribe something or blah blah.

1780
01:17:18,465 --> 01:17:21,045
Uh, we did that and he was
like, oh you need to call his,

1781
01:17:21,265 --> 01:17:22,765
his gi his this, his that.

1782
01:17:22,765 --> 01:17:24,725
And I was like, okay, you
are not helpful at all.

1783
01:17:25,185 --> 01:17:27,645
Nor did he, he didn't deny,

1784
01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:29,285
but he also didn't
validate when I was like,

1785
01:17:29,285 --> 01:17:30,885
you see all this laundry list of symptoms?

1786
01:17:30,945 --> 01:17:32,325
Do you think they could be connected?

1787
01:17:32,325 --> 01:17:36,565
He was like, uh, so
helpful. So helpful. Yeah.

1788
01:17:37,225 --> 01:17:39,965
Um, anyway, so when I
called the GI doctor,

1789
01:17:40,285 --> 01:17:41,685
'cause I knew that was gonna
be the next call I needed

1790
01:17:41,685 --> 01:17:43,885
to make, but I was like, they
were like, I am so sorry.

1791
01:17:44,145 --> 01:17:47,285
Our next appointment is
not available until January

1792
01:17:47,625 --> 01:17:49,165
of 2025.

1793
01:17:49,545 --> 01:17:53,645
And I went, yeah, what <laugh> what? Yeah.

1794
01:17:54,395 --> 01:17:56,045
They said, let, we'll
get you on the schedule

1795
01:17:56,065 --> 01:17:58,005
so you have an appointment officially

1796
01:17:58,305 --> 01:17:59,765
and then you can call at any point

1797
01:18:00,025 --> 01:18:00,845
to see if we have

1798
01:18:01,155 --> 01:18:02,965
cancellations or openings
that have come up.

1799
01:18:03,025 --> 01:18:04,525
And I'm like, okay.

1800
01:18:05,385 --> 01:18:07,565
And so then the 14-year-old
had like a really bad

1801
01:18:07,585 --> 01:18:08,845
day physically.

1802
01:18:08,845 --> 01:18:10,605
And I went, I've gotta
call this GI doctor.

1803
01:18:10,645 --> 01:18:11,565
I didn't think I was gonna call today,

1804
01:18:11,565 --> 01:18:12,285
but I'm gonna call today.

1805
01:18:12,505 --> 01:18:14,285
It was like a few days later I call back

1806
01:18:14,985 --> 01:18:18,565
and I get just the nicest, most
helpful human on the planet.

1807
01:18:19,145 --> 01:18:20,765
And she's telling me,
she's like, well they've,

1808
01:18:20,765 --> 01:18:23,405
they've put a hold on scheduling stuff

1809
01:18:23,405 --> 01:18:24,965
because they're going through some

1810
01:18:25,845 --> 01:18:26,965
restructuring or whatever, whatever.

1811
01:18:27,145 --> 01:18:28,685
She was like, that's probably
why there wasn't anything

1812
01:18:28,685 --> 01:18:30,045
available till 2025.

1813
01:18:30,365 --> 01:18:32,645
I was like, yeah, I get
that, but can you just check?

1814
01:18:32,645 --> 01:18:34,805
And she goes, yeah, lemme pull
up the master or whatever.

1815
01:18:35,145 --> 01:18:39,445
She goes, and this was what
on it was on Monday I called.

1816
01:18:40,145 --> 01:18:43,005
She goes, I have an appointment
open for next Monday.

1817
01:18:43,245 --> 01:18:44,805
I went, I don't care what time it is.

1818
01:18:44,925 --> 01:18:47,685
I don't care what office it
is, <laugh> who we'll take it.

1819
01:18:48,385 --> 01:18:51,165
Um, so that was delightful.

1820
01:18:51,985 --> 01:18:56,125
Um, yeah, I almost,

1821
01:18:57,125 --> 01:18:59,445
I had, I don't, I don't
ever wanna be a Karen.

1822
01:19:00,285 --> 01:19:01,765
I don't ever wanna be a Karen.

1823
01:19:02,245 --> 01:19:04,565
I don't ever wanna be a Karen,

1824
01:19:04,625 --> 01:19:07,445
but I think I understand
the urge sometimes.

1825
01:19:08,225 --> 01:19:11,165
So psychiatrist's office,
the kid's got anxiety.

1826
01:19:11,385 --> 01:19:12,765
We have to manage that medically.

1827
01:19:12,785 --> 01:19:14,245
We tried not managing that medically

1828
01:19:14,385 --> 01:19:17,165
and that was the worst two months

1829
01:19:17,185 --> 01:19:20,325
of anybody's lives in this
house, certainly for the kid.

1830
01:19:21,185 --> 01:19:23,925
So he's got an appointment, we
drive to it while I'm driving

1831
01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:25,085
to it, it's 45 minutes away

1832
01:19:25,085 --> 01:19:27,445
because he does not want telehealth.

1833
01:19:27,745 --> 01:19:29,045
He does not function well with it.

1834
01:19:29,045 --> 01:19:31,085
So I'm like, fine, we'll go in person,

1835
01:19:31,185 --> 01:19:32,645
but the office is 45 minutes away.

1836
01:19:32,945 --> 01:19:34,565
I'm on the highway driving to the office.

1837
01:19:35,305 --> 01:19:39,165
The billing department is
calling me demanding payment

1838
01:19:39,345 --> 01:19:40,365
before the appointment.

1839
01:19:40,385 --> 01:19:41,685
Now here's how the office works.

1840
01:19:42,585 --> 01:19:45,365
You, they don't let the doctor
know you're there to see them

1841
01:19:45,375 --> 01:19:46,605
until they collect payment.

1842
01:19:46,905 --> 01:19:50,565
So they were gonna get payment
before the appointment.

1843
01:19:51,445 --> 01:19:53,485
I can't answer the phone when
I'm driving down the fucking

1844
01:19:53,485 --> 01:19:58,445
highway, nor do I like that
office enough to be willing to.

1845
01:19:59,025 --> 01:20:01,805
So they call 45 minutes
out from the appointment.

1846
01:20:02,425 --> 01:20:03,725
We get there 15 minutes early.

1847
01:20:03,925 --> 01:20:04,925
'cause that's what they
always tell you to do.

1848
01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:07,245
And I know I gotta make a pain
point and I like to be early.

1849
01:20:07,425 --> 01:20:08,645
It helps my anxiety.

1850
01:20:09,965 --> 01:20:12,445
I, my phone's on silent so I
did not know this from the time

1851
01:20:13,085 --> 01:20:14,885
I pulled into the parking lot they called.

1852
01:20:15,005 --> 01:20:16,565
I didn't realize it 'cause
my phone was in my purse.

1853
01:20:17,235 --> 01:20:18,525
Then I get to the front desk

1854
01:20:18,665 --> 01:20:22,365
and I'm take giving the
front desk person my payment

1855
01:20:22,625 --> 01:20:23,725
for his appointment.

1856
01:20:24,725 --> 01:20:25,965
'cause they don't take his insurance

1857
01:20:25,965 --> 01:20:27,885
and we're self-pay until
I find him a new doctor.

1858
01:20:30,785 --> 01:20:31,845
She takes my payment

1859
01:20:32,625 --> 01:20:35,605
before she can click the
button on her little system

1860
01:20:35,605 --> 01:20:37,565
that says payment received.

1861
01:20:38,195 --> 01:20:39,685
They have called a third time

1862
01:20:40,225 --> 01:20:41,525
and canceled the appointment

1863
01:20:41,525 --> 01:20:44,285
that we're standing in the fucking office.

1864
01:20:44,515 --> 01:20:47,765
Four <laugh>. I'm sitting
in the waiting area.

1865
01:20:47,925 --> 01:20:49,965
I happen to look at my
phone. I pull up, thank God

1866
01:20:49,965 --> 01:20:51,245
for transcript on voicemail.

1867
01:20:51,325 --> 01:20:52,245
I pull it up and it says,

1868
01:20:52,245 --> 01:20:53,325
this appointment has been canceled.

1869
01:20:53,545 --> 01:20:57,325
I'm like, what the actual
fucking fuck. I calmly <laugh>.

1870
01:20:58,205 --> 01:21:00,405
I quickly walked to the front off desk

1871
01:21:00,505 --> 01:21:03,085
and I'm holding my phone
and I said, excuse me.

1872
01:21:03,105 --> 01:21:05,565
She goes, oh, I saw it. I'm fixing it.

1873
01:21:06,225 --> 01:21:08,525
She goes, they literally did
that right as I was about

1874
01:21:08,525 --> 01:21:11,445
to click the button that says
payment received <laugh>.

1875
01:21:12,755 --> 01:21:16,205
Then the doctor had gotten the message

1876
01:21:16,675 --> 01:21:18,085
that the appointment was canceled

1877
01:21:18,145 --> 01:21:21,845
and didn't see the message rescheduled.

1878
01:21:22,545 --> 01:21:25,725
So we waited 20 minutes
in the waiting room

1879
01:21:25,785 --> 01:21:28,685
and it was that front desk
person deserves a raise

1880
01:21:28,825 --> 01:21:32,685
and a medal because she's the
one that went to the office

1881
01:21:32,865 --> 01:21:35,565
and was like, your nine 30
is here and has been here.

1882
01:21:35,945 --> 01:21:37,645
He comes out mortified.

1883
01:21:37,675 --> 01:21:38,525
He's like, I got a message

1884
01:21:38,525 --> 01:21:39,605
that the appointment was canceled.

1885
01:21:39,705 --> 01:21:42,245
I'm like, yeah, that was
your billing office doing

1886
01:21:42,245 --> 01:21:43,765
that while we were standing here.

1887
01:21:44,305 --> 01:21:45,725
He was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

1888
01:21:45,725 --> 01:21:47,925
We get through the appointment,
the kid gets the medication.

1889
01:21:47,965 --> 01:21:49,765
I wanted him to be on 'cause
we know what fucking works.

1890
01:21:49,865 --> 01:21:52,205
And I, and he gives us
three months of refills

1891
01:21:52,205 --> 01:21:53,765
and I'm like, hot fucking damn.

1892
01:21:53,765 --> 01:21:55,285
That means I don't have
to deal with this place

1893
01:21:55,305 --> 01:21:58,325
for three fucking months
and I'll go find a new

1894
01:21:58,905 --> 01:22:03,125
psychiatrist's office then the
fucking rob of this, y'all.

1895
01:22:03,425 --> 01:22:04,525
Oh my God.

1896
01:22:06,225 --> 01:22:08,365
So he said, you don't have

1897
01:22:08,365 --> 01:22:10,445
to worry about scheduling a
follow up while you're here.

1898
01:22:10,865 --> 01:22:13,125
No big deal. If you need,
if something comes up

1899
01:22:13,125 --> 01:22:15,325
and you need me, go ahead.

1900
01:22:15,325 --> 01:22:17,645
Call. We'll get you in. He's like, but

1901
01:22:17,645 --> 01:22:19,525
otherwise you can wait
and make that follow up

1902
01:22:19,525 --> 01:22:20,845
for, for three months from now.

1903
01:22:20,865 --> 01:22:22,165
I'm like, okay, fine.
In my head I'm going,

1904
01:22:22,385 --> 01:22:23,685
I'm not making another goddamn

1905
01:22:23,685 --> 01:22:25,125
appointment with you motherfuckers.

1906
01:22:25,125 --> 01:22:26,845
But I didn't say that
to him because it's not

1907
01:22:26,845 --> 01:22:27,925
his fault that the mm-Hmm.

1908
01:22:27,965 --> 01:22:31,325
<affirmative> admin side of
this place is close nuts. Yeah.

1909
01:22:32,145 --> 01:22:33,965
Now here's the fucking irony.

1910
01:22:35,445 --> 01:22:38,805
I didn't make an appointment
that day. Right? Right.

1911
01:22:39,445 --> 01:22:44,205
<laugh>, the next day I get an email

1912
01:22:44,705 --> 01:22:47,285
and a voicemail about how, hey,

1913
01:22:47,345 --> 01:22:49,085
you didn't make a follow-up appointment

1914
01:22:49,085 --> 01:22:50,365
and follow-up appointments are important

1915
01:22:50,365 --> 01:22:51,565
for continuation of care.

1916
01:22:51,905 --> 01:22:56,085
Oh really? The appointments are
important for a continuation

1917
01:22:56,085 --> 01:22:57,285
of goddamn care.

1918
01:22:57,385 --> 01:22:59,365
Who would've thought would you call

1919
01:22:59,985 --> 01:23:01,165
at your earliest convenience

1920
01:23:01,165 --> 01:23:03,845
and make that follow up
appointment at the same time?

1921
01:23:04,545 --> 01:23:06,885
The billing office calls?
No, not the billing.

1922
01:23:06,885 --> 01:23:10,205
Like the, the some other
part of their admin goes, oh,

1923
01:23:10,745 --> 01:23:13,405
we see that your appointment was canceled,

1924
01:23:14,425 --> 01:23:15,685
but now you've made payment

1925
01:23:15,865 --> 01:23:17,725
and if you would like to reschedule

1926
01:23:17,835 --> 01:23:19,605
that canceled appointment.

1927
01:23:21,475 --> 01:23:25,285
- Yeah. They're a they're a hot mess.

1928
01:23:28,875 --> 01:23:31,335
- And then the next day I
didn't tell you I got another

1929
01:23:31,395 --> 01:23:34,415
follow up email slash voicemail about how

1930
01:23:35,075 --> 01:23:36,975
you should really make
that follow up appointment.

1931
01:23:36,975 --> 01:23:39,375
It's good for continuation
of care, continuity

1932
01:23:39,375 --> 01:23:40,535
of care, whatever they say.

1933
01:23:41,725 --> 01:23:45,935
- Whew. Yeah. Are you fucking

1934
01:23:45,935 --> 01:23:46,935
- Kidding me?

1935
01:23:46,935 --> 01:23:47,735
<laugh>. This is the same place

1936
01:23:48,445 --> 01:23:51,855
that the kids new health
insurance, new to him, I mean,

1937
01:23:52,635 --> 01:23:57,135
is listed on the psychiatrist's
office website as insurance.

1938
01:23:57,135 --> 01:24:01,895
They take, it's listed on
the insurance sites thing

1939
01:24:01,895 --> 01:24:04,175
of find a provider listed twice.

1940
01:24:04,475 --> 01:24:07,655
The pediatrician still
has that office listed

1941
01:24:07,755 --> 01:24:10,295
as they accept this kind of insurance.

1942
01:24:10,395 --> 01:24:11,935
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,
because I, I asked for,

1943
01:24:12,075 --> 01:24:14,175
you have a list of,
you know, psychiatrists

1944
01:24:14,175 --> 01:24:15,455
that you recommend work with.

1945
01:24:15,485 --> 01:24:17,495
Well, like, give me a list.
I gotta start somewhere.

1946
01:24:19,315 --> 01:24:20,575
But I called twice

1947
01:24:21,375 --> 01:24:22,975
'cause I was like, oh, this insurance used

1948
01:24:22,975 --> 01:24:25,255
to be under a different name
so lemme call a second time.

1949
01:24:25,495 --> 01:24:26,575
'cause maybe they didn't
know the new name.

1950
01:24:26,715 --> 01:24:28,495
Let me give the old name.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> twice.

1951
01:24:28,555 --> 01:24:30,775
And they were like, Nope, we
don't take that insurance.

1952
01:24:30,875 --> 01:24:33,295
And see, here's the thing.
I'm willing to bet they might

1953
01:24:33,995 --> 01:24:35,695
- And they just
- Don't fucking know They do.

1954
01:24:39,485 --> 01:24:42,255
- Yeah. Yeah.

1955
01:24:47,035 --> 01:24:48,095
- Are you fucking kidding me?

1956
01:24:54,755 --> 01:24:56,615
I'm feeling better about
this so I can talk about it

1957
01:24:56,935 --> 01:24:58,215
<laugh>, because I was
very sad about this.

1958
01:24:58,215 --> 01:25:00,095
This is not, this is,
there's no segue here.

1959
01:25:00,515 --> 01:25:03,055
That's all going on. And on
top of just other things.

1960
01:25:05,035 --> 01:25:08,215
Ben helping the 14 old
with lots of things,

1961
01:25:08,235 --> 01:25:09,895
health school, just lots of stuff.

1962
01:25:10,715 --> 01:25:12,815
And I worry about him
every moment of every day.

1963
01:25:12,885 --> 01:25:14,295
It's just like, Mm-Hmm.

1964
01:25:14,335 --> 01:25:15,935
<affirmative> can't stop. Won't stop.

1965
01:25:16,245 --> 01:25:17,375
- Yeah. <laugh>.

1966
01:25:17,795 --> 01:25:21,095
- And then he reminds
me, and he's needed me.

1967
01:25:21,135 --> 01:25:22,735
I mean, he said, mom, I I need your help.

1968
01:25:22,855 --> 01:25:24,575
I need I don't leave me.
I need you. I need you.

1969
01:25:24,795 --> 01:25:26,815
I'm here, baby. I'm
here. Whatever you need.

1970
01:25:27,315 --> 01:25:29,615
And then today I'm trying to
talk to him about something

1971
01:25:30,195 --> 01:25:34,575
and he treats me with
the utter disdain of all

1972
01:25:35,095 --> 01:25:36,335
teenagers everywhere.

1973
01:25:36,975 --> 01:25:40,695
<laugh>. And in the moments
my feelings were hurt.

1974
01:25:41,275 --> 01:25:43,055
But now I'm like, Aw.

1975
01:25:44,155 --> 01:25:47,535
He, he acted like a typical teenager. Aw.

1976
01:25:47,795 --> 01:25:51,855
He was a little asshole.
We love to see it. <laugh>.

1977
01:25:52,885 --> 01:25:55,975
- Look,
- I'm telling you, when, when you have

1978
01:25:55,975 --> 01:25:57,735
to like see a very vulnerable side

1979
01:25:57,735 --> 01:26:02,095
of somebody you care about,
first of all, it's a, it's a bit

1980
01:26:02,095 --> 01:26:03,965
of a shock when you get to see their, like

1981
01:26:05,505 --> 01:26:06,725
air quote, typical side.

1982
01:26:06,745 --> 01:26:08,285
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.
Like, it took me a minute.

1983
01:26:08,285 --> 01:26:09,285
Like my feelings really were hurt.

1984
01:26:09,285 --> 01:26:11,365
I had to walk away and be
like, you're the adult.

1985
01:26:12,005 --> 01:26:14,045
Regulate your own
emotions. You're the adult.

1986
01:26:14,185 --> 01:26:18,285
Be the adult <laugh>. I had
to go have a moment to myself.

1987
01:26:19,065 --> 01:26:21,725
Um, but now I'm like, I'm
in a better frame of mind.

1988
01:26:21,745 --> 01:26:26,285
I'm like, he was a shitty
teenager. Aw, <laugh>.

1989
01:26:27,265 --> 01:26:31,565
That's that's actually a good sign. Yeah.

1990
01:26:32,045 --> 01:26:33,685
I can't even be at him anymore.

1991
01:26:40,905 --> 01:26:45,525
So Yeah. So that's my stuff. <laugh>.

1992
01:26:47,485 --> 01:26:50,765
I mean, we, we've been sending out orders

1993
01:26:50,985 --> 01:26:53,525
and selling kinky shit
and it's delightful.

1994
01:26:53,705 --> 01:26:55,925
And I get such a dopamine
hit every fucking time.

1995
01:26:56,505 --> 01:26:58,445
And you and I have good plans for

1996
01:26:58,965 --> 01:27:00,325
restocking what's now sold out.

1997
01:27:00,325 --> 01:27:01,445
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And like we're,

1998
01:27:01,445 --> 01:27:02,725
we're on it and we're doing it.

1999
01:27:02,905 --> 01:27:07,285
And that part, that part
is like just clicking away.

2000
01:27:07,285 --> 01:27:08,685
It's, it's doing what
it's supposed to do. Yeah.

2001
01:27:08,685 --> 01:27:11,445
It's not where we need
it to be financially for

2002
01:27:11,985 --> 01:27:14,725
our personal situation,
but it is, it's doing good.

2003
01:27:14,755 --> 01:27:16,245
It's moving in the right
direction. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>.

2004
01:27:17,385 --> 01:27:21,965
But there's Oh, excuse me. Yeah.

2005
01:27:22,765 --> 01:27:24,285
<laugh>. And when we're done here,

2006
01:27:24,545 --> 01:27:27,005
I'm gonna go do eighth grade
math, which means I'm going

2007
01:27:27,005 --> 01:27:31,525
to reteach myself <laugh>
eighth grade math from 30

2008
01:27:31,675 --> 01:27:32,685
plus years ago.

2009
01:27:33,785 --> 01:27:37,365
Uh, and then go do eighth grade math

2010
01:27:37,395 --> 01:27:39,365
with the 14-year-old.

2011
01:27:41,145 --> 01:27:43,005
But I know. So yeah.

2012
01:27:45,525 --> 01:27:48,005
Anything and I, I know I suck
up all the oxygen. Anything.

2013
01:27:49,345 --> 01:27:52,725
No, that was enough. Huh? I
got nothing. Yeah. Yeah. So.

2014
01:27:53,585 --> 01:27:57,405
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. There
we are. There we are. Good.

2015
01:27:57,405 --> 01:27:59,045
The bad, the ugly. Yeah.

2016
01:27:59,525 --> 01:28:03,805
<laugh> usually all in the
same five second moment.

2017
01:28:04,025 --> 01:28:07,685
Um, <laugh> just on a
loop. Yeah. Uh, yeah.

2018
01:28:07,765 --> 01:28:09,125
I guess we can be done. Mm-Hmm.

2019
01:28:09,205 --> 01:28:11,165
<affirmative>, uh, if you stuck
around till this bitter end,

2020
01:28:11,385 --> 01:28:14,485
you are, uh, fucking amazing.

2021
01:28:14,775 --> 01:28:15,845
Right. Um,

2022
01:28:17,585 --> 01:28:22,165
and I don't have anything
else to say to that.

2023
01:28:22,425 --> 01:28:24,405
No thanks to educated
for sponsoring. Mm-Hmm.

2024
01:28:24,445 --> 01:28:26,365
<affirmative> they keep
sponsoring the chaos.

2025
01:28:26,825 --> 01:28:30,125
So clearly they enjoy the chaos. Yeah.

2026
01:28:30,225 --> 01:28:32,445
Um, I always feel like I feel bad

2027
01:28:32,545 --> 01:28:33,925
and then I'm like, no,
they keep coming back.

2028
01:28:34,025 --> 01:28:37,925
So, so they, they enjoy
it on some level. <laugh>.

2029
01:28:39,225 --> 01:28:43,805
Um, yeah, that's all I got. Okay.

2030
01:28:43,925 --> 01:28:45,125
I guess we're gonna stop now. Mm-Hmm.

2031
01:28:45,165 --> 01:28:46,685
<affirmative> just, just stop. Yep.

2032
01:28:47,865 --> 01:28:52,085
Uh, I'm gonna at least say go.
Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Bye.

2033
01:28:52,265 --> 01:28:56,005
See you next week. Thanks.
Hopefully I don't cry next week.

2034
01:28:56,155 --> 01:28:56,885
That would be nice.

