1 00:00:10,785 --> 00:00:12,485 - You are listening to the Loving BDSM podcast, 2 00:00:12,595 --> 00:00:14,405 episode 3 75 K. 3 00:00:14,405 --> 00:00:16,205 The Lord's here with the one, the only, 4 00:00:16,465 --> 00:00:18,285 the guy who's in his underwear. 5 00:00:18,525 --> 00:00:20,245 'cause this is just a podcast episode 6 00:00:20,245 --> 00:00:21,845 and no livestream, jump brownstone. 7 00:00:21,845 --> 00:00:23,125 - That's right. I'm going old school. 8 00:00:23,195 --> 00:00:25,165 Back to the, uh, beginning old 9 00:00:25,165 --> 00:00:28,485 - School would be one microphone that is only in front of me 10 00:00:29,145 --> 00:00:30,525 in a hot stuffy closet. 11 00:00:32,185 --> 00:00:33,185 You have your own mic. 12 00:00:34,635 --> 00:00:37,485 - True . - You were about to deny it. 13 00:00:37,965 --> 00:00:41,245 I saw your face. I saw your face. I saw your face. 14 00:00:41,545 --> 00:00:44,205 You're like, no I don't. Dude. Dude. What is that then? 15 00:00:44,205 --> 00:00:47,285 Other than a very large dick? I don't know. 16 00:00:47,645 --> 00:00:49,325 don't point that thing at me. 17 00:00:49,725 --> 00:00:51,845 his microphone. Y I'm not his dick. 18 00:00:51,865 --> 00:00:53,885 If he points his dick at me, it's fine. It's fine. 19 00:00:53,885 --> 00:00:57,965 It's what I signed up for. Hi, we're here. Hi. 20 00:00:58,905 --> 00:01:03,165 - I'm a little later on in when we were recording 21 00:01:03,225 --> 00:01:04,325 at my desk at night. 22 00:01:04,915 --> 00:01:08,405 - Okay. We still only had one microphone. True . And, 23 00:01:08,545 --> 00:01:10,365 - And I don't, but I didn't, but I didn't have pants. 24 00:01:10,765 --> 00:01:13,405 - I am both a microphone, hog and slut. So 25 00:01:13,665 --> 00:01:15,405 - You are No. 26 00:01:15,525 --> 00:01:16,885 Denying that in the least. 27 00:01:17,425 --> 00:01:20,165 - Um, you know how normally I'll go, oh, look at us. 28 00:01:20,175 --> 00:01:21,285 Let's get like this week. 29 00:01:21,285 --> 00:01:22,805 That's not what we're talking about. That No, 30 00:01:22,835 --> 00:01:24,765 this week is probably gonna be pretty random 31 00:01:24,955 --> 00:01:29,005 because this week is basically a bonus section episode. 32 00:01:29,545 --> 00:01:32,645 We will explain why when we get through it to it 33 00:01:33,165 --> 00:01:35,405 in about, you know, 90 seconds. 34 00:01:36,155 --> 00:01:40,245 Sure. Um, if you are a person who enjoys the bonus sections, 35 00:01:40,245 --> 00:01:42,245 maybe you consider yourself a proud cricket. 36 00:01:42,505 --> 00:01:44,325 All that good stuff. You'll probably like this one. 37 00:01:44,395 --> 00:01:47,125 It's just us talking about just stuff. 38 00:01:47,385 --> 00:01:48,765 Uh, if you really only want 39 00:01:48,765 --> 00:01:51,005 to hear about power exchange stuff and kink stuff, 40 00:01:51,005 --> 00:01:54,445 and like the education information part, skip this one. 41 00:01:54,445 --> 00:01:56,325 This one won't be for you. That's okay. 42 00:01:56,385 --> 00:01:57,845 Our feelings are not hurt. 43 00:01:58,305 --> 00:02:02,285 Um, we did not want to skip this week. Mm-Hmm. 44 00:02:02,325 --> 00:02:05,485 . But also we did not have the brain capacity 45 00:02:05,985 --> 00:02:08,685 to like, put together a decent topic. 46 00:02:08,915 --> 00:02:11,365 Correct. And also we're breaking tradition 47 00:02:11,385 --> 00:02:13,445 for the first time since we started the podcast. We 48 00:02:13,445 --> 00:02:14,445 - Are. 49 00:02:14,445 --> 00:02:17,165 - So yeah. That's, uh, that's what we're doing here. Mm-Hmm. 50 00:02:17,205 --> 00:02:19,125 , welcome to the Loving BDSM podcast. 51 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:21,165 If this is your first time listening, glad to have you. 52 00:02:21,165 --> 00:02:22,685 If you're back for another week, welcome back. 53 00:02:22,825 --> 00:02:24,765 Loving BDSM is produced every Friday 54 00:02:24,945 --> 00:02:27,685 and Monday usually for your kinky pleasure and education. 55 00:02:27,865 --> 00:02:30,565 And show notes are found@lovingbdsm.net. 56 00:02:30,875 --> 00:02:32,565 Come back often and feel free to add the podcast 57 00:02:32,665 --> 00:02:33,965 to your favorite podcast app. 58 00:02:34,105 --> 00:02:35,565 You can also follow the show on Twitter 59 00:02:35,765 --> 00:02:36,885 X, whatever the hell we're calling it. 60 00:02:36,885 --> 00:02:38,645 While it's still, you know, 61 00:02:38,745 --> 00:02:43,325 exists at Loving BDSM on a fe life at Loving BDSM 62 00:02:43,585 --> 00:02:45,885 PC on Instagram M Threads at that handle. 63 00:02:46,005 --> 00:02:49,445 I will forever fucking Hate Loving DSS. And the number one. 64 00:02:49,445 --> 00:02:50,965 So that's at Loving DS one. 65 00:02:51,625 --> 00:02:54,405 Or on YouTube at youtube.com/loving bdsm. 66 00:02:54,505 --> 00:02:56,645 Or you can watch us live stream the podcast every Wednesday, 67 00:02:56,645 --> 00:02:57,845 except not this Wednesday. 68 00:02:57,865 --> 00:02:59,220 And I'm still pissed about it. 69 00:02:59,665 --> 00:03:00,845 All links are in the show notes. 70 00:03:02,195 --> 00:03:04,125 Also, Onyx is on our recording table 71 00:03:04,345 --> 00:03:06,285 and is getting all of the butt rubs. 72 00:03:06,785 --> 00:03:08,765 Uh, if you heard a little scratchy, scratchy, 73 00:03:08,765 --> 00:03:11,685 that was JB trying to get her up on the recording table 74 00:03:12,305 --> 00:03:13,765 so she could point her butt hole at me, . 75 00:03:13,765 --> 00:03:14,765 Uh, and now she's gone. 76 00:03:16,025 --> 00:03:19,525 - She came, did what she was required to do 77 00:03:19,545 --> 00:03:21,645 and has to fill her job and left. 78 00:03:21,745 --> 00:03:23,085 - That's true. That's true. Yeah. 79 00:03:23,345 --> 00:03:26,325 Uh, we got the serotonin dopamine thing. 80 00:03:26,805 --> 00:03:28,285 Serotonin dopamine, both. Mm-Hmm. . 81 00:03:28,285 --> 00:03:29,645 I don't remember how the brain chemicals work, 82 00:03:29,865 --> 00:03:32,285 but we got a bit of that while she climbs on the boxes 83 00:03:32,475 --> 00:03:34,285 that I've laid out very nicely 84 00:03:36,865 --> 00:03:37,965 for our Black Friday 85 00:03:38,035 --> 00:03:39,035 - Sale. 86 00:03:39,035 --> 00:03:41,245 They're for her pleasure. Yeah. Yeah. 87 00:03:41,245 --> 00:03:42,845 - We - Just, for her climbing pleasure for her. 88 00:03:43,465 --> 00:03:48,325 - So let's start with stuff that listeners who are like, 89 00:03:48,425 --> 00:03:50,165 follow the podcast. 90 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:52,365 Like, you know, when shit is supposed to come out. 91 00:03:52,905 --> 00:03:54,685 Uh, and let's start with that. 92 00:03:55,025 --> 00:03:58,405 Uh, there was no episode, short episode this Monday. 93 00:04:00,105 --> 00:04:01,845 Not because there was anything wrong with the podcast. 94 00:04:03,535 --> 00:04:06,285 - Kayla got put in the corner and it wasn't by me. And 95 00:04:06,365 --> 00:04:07,525 - I hate the fucking corner. 96 00:04:07,875 --> 00:04:10,405 Okay. Nobody puts baby girl in a fucking corner 97 00:04:10,465 --> 00:04:11,805 except her daddy Dom. 98 00:04:11,905 --> 00:04:14,245 And that's under very specific circumstances. 99 00:04:14,425 --> 00:04:18,325 And YouTube did not have my fucking consent for this 100 00:04:18,505 --> 00:04:22,685 so clearly we're able to produce something. 101 00:04:22,965 --> 00:04:24,525 'cause you can hear our voice right now. 102 00:04:24,825 --> 00:04:27,205 So why no Monday podcast episode? 103 00:04:27,205 --> 00:04:30,605 Well, it was because we couldn't put out the YouTube 104 00:04:30,755 --> 00:04:32,205 version of it at the same time. 105 00:04:32,265 --> 00:04:33,965 And I didn't want us to be off 106 00:04:34,765 --> 00:04:36,645 like a podcast on Monday 107 00:04:36,645 --> 00:04:37,645 - Out of kilter. 108 00:04:37,645 --> 00:04:39,085 - Yeah. I didn't like it. So we were 109 00:04:39,085 --> 00:04:40,445 like, fuck it, we'll delay it. 110 00:04:40,905 --> 00:04:43,565 Um, now why did you two put us in the car? 111 00:04:43,965 --> 00:04:47,085 - - YouTube flagged 112 00:04:47,845 --> 00:04:50,205 a video from I think like two 113 00:04:50,345 --> 00:04:53,965 or three years ago, maybe longer, that happened 114 00:04:54,105 --> 00:04:56,965 to have a link to FetLife in it. 115 00:04:58,145 --> 00:05:00,285 And they went, no, no, that's a bad link. 116 00:05:00,345 --> 00:05:02,565 So we're gonna give you a community strike, 117 00:05:02,735 --> 00:05:04,005 which is not a content strike. 118 00:05:04,005 --> 00:05:05,485 It's not a copyright strike. If you know anything about 119 00:05:05,485 --> 00:05:08,605 YouTube, it's a oops, you went against our terms of service. 120 00:05:09,225 --> 00:05:11,725 Uh, we're putting you in the corner for a week. 121 00:05:12,185 --> 00:05:15,285 You cannot post. You cannot live stream. You cannot do shit. 122 00:05:15,305 --> 00:05:16,805 You can't even, like, the thing 123 00:05:16,805 --> 00:05:18,325 that really kills me is you can't even post 124 00:05:18,345 --> 00:05:19,445 to the community tab 125 00:05:19,445 --> 00:05:21,125 where you could put up an announcement going, you know, 126 00:05:21,125 --> 00:05:22,725 this thing we do all the time, we can't do it for a week. 127 00:05:22,725 --> 00:05:23,725 Mm-Hmm. , you can't do any of that. 128 00:05:24,785 --> 00:05:27,325 And then of course they give you the scary warning 129 00:05:27,445 --> 00:05:30,365 that if it happens a second time, uh, 130 00:05:30,365 --> 00:05:32,885 then it's like two weeks or 30 days or something like that. 131 00:05:33,065 --> 00:05:35,885 And then if it happens a third time, your channel's gone. 132 00:05:35,995 --> 00:05:39,565 Bye-Bye. Right? So I was like, oh fuck, okay, 133 00:05:40,185 --> 00:05:41,725 let me start checking videos. 134 00:05:42,145 --> 00:05:43,205 So first I was pissed 'cause 135 00:05:43,295 --> 00:05:44,725 we're grounded for a week, right? 136 00:05:44,725 --> 00:05:45,565 Mm-Hmm. . So there was no 137 00:05:45,725 --> 00:05:46,565 live stream this week. 138 00:05:46,865 --> 00:05:49,765 Uh, we couldn't upload the Monday video, blah, blah, blah. 139 00:05:49,865 --> 00:05:52,565 And here's, here we are doing our Friday podcast 140 00:05:52,965 --> 00:05:54,245 'cause we control it and we can do that. 141 00:05:54,865 --> 00:05:57,470 Um, but then I started looking at other videos. 142 00:05:57,685 --> 00:06:02,165 I was like, I, I know now like in 2023 143 00:06:02,595 --> 00:06:04,285 that I don't put certain links 144 00:06:04,345 --> 00:06:06,725 or types of links in the description box on YouTube. 145 00:06:06,725 --> 00:06:09,645 Mm-Hmm. because it could get flagged, right? 146 00:06:09,945 --> 00:06:14,165 But that's today me, past me was way too fucking naive. 147 00:06:14,225 --> 00:06:17,045 So I was like, lemme go kinda look through some videos, 148 00:06:17,195 --> 00:06:19,685 make sure there's no sketchy links. 149 00:06:20,555 --> 00:06:21,805 That is when I discovered, 150 00:06:22,025 --> 00:06:23,765 and this is how ridiculous YouTube is, 151 00:06:23,765 --> 00:06:27,565 but also it scared the shit outta me kind of perusing 152 00:06:27,565 --> 00:06:29,525 through just randomly a couple of videos. 153 00:06:30,475 --> 00:06:33,645 That is when I discovered that nearly every single piece 154 00:06:33,845 --> 00:06:36,685 of content we have put on YouTube includes a link 155 00:06:36,685 --> 00:06:37,685 to our felt life profile. 156 00:06:37,925 --> 00:06:40,165 'cause I had always been like, oh, I can put this in 157 00:06:40,165 --> 00:06:41,965 and if somebody wants to follow us there, there's the link. 158 00:06:41,965 --> 00:06:44,845 Mm-Hmm. . So this is how stupid YouTube is. 159 00:06:45,035 --> 00:06:49,885 They flagged that one instance of the link in a video 160 00:06:49,945 --> 00:06:52,125 that's been out two, three years. 161 00:06:52,845 --> 00:06:55,645 I can't remember if it was a 2021 or a 2019 video. 162 00:06:55,715 --> 00:06:58,365 They all like start to just run together. 163 00:06:58,635 --> 00:07:02,125 Your brain after a while, that one was a bad link. 164 00:07:02,545 --> 00:07:05,965 But the link that has existed in, and I know the numbers now 165 00:07:06,045 --> 00:07:09,565 'cause I had to go through them 257 uploaded videos 166 00:07:09,785 --> 00:07:13,045 and 387 live streams. 167 00:07:14,185 --> 00:07:16,965 Not a problem. I was like, okay, YouTube is stupid. 168 00:07:17,155 --> 00:07:18,365 They're gonna figure this out. 169 00:07:18,395 --> 00:07:21,565 Next thing you know, our channel's gonna be banned if I 170 00:07:21,565 --> 00:07:22,845 don't get rid of these links. 171 00:07:22,845 --> 00:07:24,245 Mm-Hmm. . So I spent an hour 172 00:07:24,245 --> 00:07:27,925 and a half manually removing the FET Life link from all 173 00:07:27,925 --> 00:07:30,365 257 uploaded videos 174 00:07:30,745 --> 00:07:34,325 before I finally went, wait, is there a bulk edit? 175 00:07:34,705 --> 00:07:38,125 Is there a way to do this Less tedious? This? 176 00:07:38,145 --> 00:07:40,365 Why did I finally have that come to that conclusion? 177 00:07:40,565 --> 00:07:42,125 'cause I got over to the live stream content 178 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:44,805 and was like, there's 387 of these fuckers. 179 00:07:44,805 --> 00:07:48,445 What the hell have we been doing? We've been live streaming, 180 00:07:48,485 --> 00:07:50,165 I think since like 2018. 181 00:07:50,165 --> 00:07:52,325 2019 is what the fuck we've been doing . 182 00:07:52,715 --> 00:07:55,005 That was when I found the bulk edit 183 00:07:56,625 --> 00:07:59,965 and removed all of the Fat Life links. 184 00:07:59,975 --> 00:08:01,965 There you go. But see, the the thing 185 00:08:01,965 --> 00:08:04,125 that really pisses me off is you can't just go in, 186 00:08:04,185 --> 00:08:08,085 remove the link and say, Hey YouTube, I've removed the link. 187 00:08:08,385 --> 00:08:10,645 Let me post. Like, I won't put that link again. 188 00:08:10,645 --> 00:08:13,205 That link is gone. Let me post to my fucking channel. 189 00:08:13,355 --> 00:08:15,525 Uhuh, when you're grounded, you're grounded. Mm-Hmm. 190 00:08:15,565 --> 00:08:17,605 , there is no redemption for you. No. Nope. 191 00:08:17,755 --> 00:08:22,285 Nope. And then irony of ironies. Annoyances of annoyances. 192 00:08:23,845 --> 00:08:26,685 I went through all of our uploaded videos 193 00:08:26,905 --> 00:08:28,965 and uh, there was one where we had 194 00:08:29,885 --> 00:08:33,245 reviewed A-B-D-S-M like little blank journal 195 00:08:33,245 --> 00:08:34,445 thing that was super cute. 196 00:08:35,465 --> 00:08:38,685 And I looked at the links we had included in that video, 197 00:08:38,825 --> 00:08:41,365 and one of the links was to the person 198 00:08:41,385 --> 00:08:43,325 who put together this little journal Mm-Hmm. 199 00:08:43,365 --> 00:08:45,445 . And I thought, oh, that should be fine. 200 00:08:45,445 --> 00:08:47,565 They're, they're an educator. They're a content creator. 201 00:08:48,085 --> 00:08:49,205 I didn't even go check the link. 202 00:08:49,325 --> 00:08:52,085 I just went, oh, it's not felt life. It's not like a porn. 203 00:08:52,395 --> 00:08:54,005 It's fine, it's fine. But 204 00:08:54,005 --> 00:08:58,845 because I had gone into that video, edited out 205 00:08:59,425 --> 00:09:01,205 the Fat Life fucking link 206 00:09:01,825 --> 00:09:05,725 and then updated it, YouTube was like, oh, we're on this. 207 00:09:05,945 --> 00:09:08,445 Oh, it did not give me the strike 208 00:09:09,595 --> 00:09:10,765 that puts us in the corner. 209 00:09:11,425 --> 00:09:14,245 But it did come up with a thing like 10 minutes later, 210 00:09:14,705 --> 00:09:17,525 the link in, in this, this link right here. 211 00:09:17,665 --> 00:09:19,565 The link to the author of the Mm-Hmm. . 212 00:09:19,765 --> 00:09:23,085 BDSM Journal. That's an adult link. You can't have that. 213 00:09:23,095 --> 00:09:28,085 We've removed that. So I went to check the link. Yeah. 214 00:09:28,095 --> 00:09:29,845 She's like pro dom. 215 00:09:30,065 --> 00:09:33,765 She, um, does like cam stuff 216 00:09:33,785 --> 00:09:36,045 and blah blah, like all that, which is fine. 217 00:09:36,185 --> 00:09:38,045 You y'all know. Yeah. We don't care. 218 00:09:38,465 --> 00:09:40,925 But , it never occurred to me to go check the link. 219 00:09:41,085 --> 00:09:43,685 I almost got us a second community strike. 220 00:09:44,755 --> 00:09:46,245 They didn't penalize me for that. 221 00:09:46,325 --> 00:09:48,925 I think it's because something in the email was like, 222 00:09:48,945 --> 00:09:51,565 you may not have realized this was an adult link. 223 00:09:52,065 --> 00:09:56,605 You think goodness. 224 00:09:56,745 --> 00:09:58,685 And that was what? That was Sunday. Yeah. 225 00:09:59,075 --> 00:10:01,685 That was Sunday when we had come back from Orlando on 226 00:10:01,885 --> 00:10:03,085 Saturday, which was a great day. 227 00:10:03,505 --> 00:10:06,805 We had a good time. Um, but we were exhausted. 228 00:10:07,025 --> 00:10:08,325 And I was like, okay, we still, 229 00:10:08,445 --> 00:10:09,645 I still have some work to do. 230 00:10:09,705 --> 00:10:11,045 Let me like work on this stuff. 231 00:10:11,345 --> 00:10:12,605 And I had to stop everything 232 00:10:13,065 --> 00:10:14,285 and try to make it 233 00:10:14,285 --> 00:10:16,045 so I couldn't get in trouble with YouTube anymore. 234 00:10:16,185 --> 00:10:19,005 And, and there's, there could be a link out there 235 00:10:19,005 --> 00:10:21,845 that I somehow missed that I thought was innocuous 236 00:10:21,905 --> 00:10:23,405 and it dings us at some point. 237 00:10:23,605 --> 00:10:27,165 I don't know. That was a long-winded way 238 00:10:27,305 --> 00:10:29,245 to tell you about my annoyance 239 00:10:29,305 --> 00:10:32,525 and why this is a podcast only Mm-Hmm. 240 00:10:32,565 --> 00:10:35,045 Week, which is kicking it old school. Yeah. 241 00:10:35,045 --> 00:10:37,045 You and your underwear. Just the two of us 242 00:10:37,835 --> 00:10:39,045 each get our microphone now. 243 00:10:39,045 --> 00:10:41,405 So it's like completely old school. Yeah. Just talking. 244 00:10:42,425 --> 00:10:46,325 And that's not an awful thing. Mm-Hmm. . 245 00:10:46,915 --> 00:10:49,445 Look, I am that annoying person who tries 246 00:10:49,445 --> 00:10:50,925 to see the bright side of things, tries 247 00:10:50,925 --> 00:10:53,245 to find silver linings, tries to find meaning 248 00:10:53,785 --> 00:10:57,885 in most shitty things because I'm an eternal optimist 249 00:10:57,905 --> 00:10:59,085 and that is how I'm wired. 250 00:10:59,465 --> 00:11:01,005 I'm sensitive enough these days 251 00:11:01,025 --> 00:11:02,845 to not put that on somebody else. 252 00:11:03,155 --> 00:11:05,165 It's just my own shit. I do that with. Yeah. 253 00:11:06,425 --> 00:11:10,125 So this would have been the week under 254 00:11:11,145 --> 00:11:12,525 normal circumstances. 255 00:11:12,825 --> 00:11:14,125 And in different times, 256 00:11:15,075 --> 00:11:17,685 this also would've been our big Black Friday episode, 257 00:11:17,745 --> 00:11:19,445 our favorite Sex Toys of the year. 258 00:11:19,515 --> 00:11:22,005 Yeah. Let's go through it. Let's talk about it. 259 00:11:22,005 --> 00:11:23,885 Blah, blah, blah. We have done that since the 260 00:11:24,035 --> 00:11:25,205 very beginning. 261 00:11:25,205 --> 00:11:28,765 We have 2015. I don't think we've ever missed a year 262 00:11:28,765 --> 00:11:29,765 before . 263 00:11:29,975 --> 00:11:31,125 We're missing it this year. 264 00:11:31,225 --> 00:11:35,285 And maybe this has been discontinued for future years 265 00:11:35,285 --> 00:11:37,885 because we are not, excuse me, 266 00:11:37,885 --> 00:11:39,565 we are not heavily reviewing anymore. 267 00:11:40,225 --> 00:11:44,045 Um, there's just not enough time, 268 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:47,645 uh, in life for all the things we're working on 269 00:11:47,705 --> 00:11:49,565 to also review toys. 270 00:11:49,825 --> 00:11:53,245 We were doing some reviews for, um, 271 00:11:54,645 --> 00:11:56,525 a site that I was freelancing for. 272 00:11:56,595 --> 00:11:58,445 They're no longer gonna be publishing. 273 00:11:58,585 --> 00:12:00,365 So that's not even the opportunity. 274 00:12:00,705 --> 00:12:04,605 And the downside to that was while they would send each 275 00:12:04,605 --> 00:12:08,005 of us a ridiculous amount of product, most 276 00:12:08,005 --> 00:12:10,885 of them were fucking d It's like . 277 00:12:11,505 --> 00:12:14,325 The reason I, and I, I've known this for a while, 278 00:12:15,225 --> 00:12:16,565 but I don't think about it too much. 279 00:12:17,225 --> 00:12:21,085 The reason most of our reviews were mostly positive 280 00:12:21,385 --> 00:12:23,125 and we could find favorites each year. 281 00:12:23,125 --> 00:12:25,205 Mm-Hmm. was because when we were heavily 282 00:12:25,205 --> 00:12:27,485 reviewing, companies were consistently reaching out. 283 00:12:27,545 --> 00:12:30,645 Yes. And we had our pick of, we think we'll like that. 284 00:12:30,935 --> 00:12:32,085 Right. Let's review it. 285 00:12:32,105 --> 00:12:34,565 We don't think we'll like it, so why would I review it? That 286 00:12:34,565 --> 00:12:35,565 - Kind of stuff. 287 00:12:35,565 --> 00:12:38,005 And the companies that we work with through that, um, 288 00:12:38,475 --> 00:12:40,605 they were pretty much, we, we could pick and choose. 289 00:12:40,775 --> 00:12:41,805 Right. Alright. 290 00:12:41,905 --> 00:12:46,285 So we pick companies that we felt kind 291 00:12:46,285 --> 00:12:48,205 of aligned Right. With, with 292 00:12:48,365 --> 00:12:49,365 - Us. 293 00:12:49,365 --> 00:12:51,845 Exactly. Both professionally and then personally. 294 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:54,365 And, and then in terms of what we like for sex toys. Mm-Hmm. 295 00:12:54,405 --> 00:12:56,325 . And like, there was a lot more control 296 00:12:56,425 --> 00:12:58,365 and the, there was a higher volume 297 00:12:58,365 --> 00:13:00,165 because the more you review product, 298 00:13:00,265 --> 00:13:02,445 the more companies will ask you to review their product. 299 00:13:02,445 --> 00:13:05,285 Right. Once we went to, oh, we're kind of only reviewing 300 00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:07,325 for this site that I was writing for, you know, 301 00:13:07,385 --> 00:13:09,045 you were my stump penis . 302 00:13:09,795 --> 00:13:11,565 They were like, we need a, a person 303 00:13:11,595 --> 00:13:12,965 with a penises perspective. 304 00:13:13,125 --> 00:13:16,405 I was like, I got one of those, uh, , uh, that is 305 00:13:16,405 --> 00:13:18,325 how you ended up with 20 plus flashlights 306 00:13:18,325 --> 00:13:19,445 though. God, right? . 307 00:13:19,905 --> 00:13:20,905 - Oh my - God. 308 00:13:21,425 --> 00:13:23,165 - So many - Flashlights. Yeah. They're in boxes. 309 00:13:23,355 --> 00:13:26,365 Just box, like cardboard boxes in our bedroom stack 310 00:13:26,665 --> 00:13:27,085 - Box. Yeah. 311 00:13:27,085 --> 00:13:28,565 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, 312 00:13:28,985 --> 00:13:31,725 and I ended up with, I have eight 313 00:13:32,985 --> 00:13:37,565 bullet vibrators, of which, like one I'm like, 314 00:13:37,565 --> 00:13:38,885 yeah, I kind of like that one a lot. 315 00:13:39,285 --> 00:13:43,685 , um, eight, maybe nine panty vibrators. 316 00:13:43,985 --> 00:13:46,245 One of which I'm like, I don't really use these, 317 00:13:46,545 --> 00:13:47,845 but this one I like. 318 00:13:48,585 --> 00:13:52,005 Um, and then other products was like, ah, 319 00:13:52,365 --> 00:13:53,645 I gave an honest review, 320 00:13:54,305 --> 00:13:56,525 but it's not, it's just not one I'm gonna grab. 321 00:13:56,635 --> 00:13:58,165 Yeah. So there was nothing really 322 00:13:58,185 --> 00:13:59,365 for this year for us to go. 323 00:13:59,375 --> 00:14:00,645 These are our favorites. 324 00:14:01,205 --> 00:14:02,205 - I, I think a lot of it. 325 00:14:02,585 --> 00:14:06,125 And, and, you know, to be totally honest with, with folks, 326 00:14:06,225 --> 00:14:10,565 at least from my perspective, um, while it is fun, you know, 327 00:14:10,625 --> 00:14:12,365 to get all these, these products 328 00:14:12,365 --> 00:14:17,025 and try them, I, I think what kind of, uh, 329 00:14:17,585 --> 00:14:20,985 happened, I know from my speak for myself 330 00:14:21,005 --> 00:14:24,025 and maybe for both of us, um, it, it kind of got 331 00:14:24,025 --> 00:14:26,145 to a little point to burnout with all that stuff. Oh 332 00:14:26,145 --> 00:14:27,145 - God. 333 00:14:27,145 --> 00:14:27,305 Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. 334 00:14:27,695 --> 00:14:31,065 Like at this point, if I don't think the product, 335 00:14:31,525 --> 00:14:32,705 if the product's not a type 336 00:14:33,055 --> 00:14:34,865 that I would gravitate towards anyway. 337 00:14:34,865 --> 00:14:38,945 Mm-Hmm. . And I don't feel like 98% confident 338 00:14:39,375 --> 00:14:41,145 it's gonna be as good as labeled. 339 00:14:41,545 --> 00:14:42,985 I don't want, I don't even care. Yeah. 340 00:14:42,985 --> 00:14:46,585 Like, I just don't care. I was fine doing it as part 341 00:14:46,605 --> 00:14:50,425 of my job working with this, this site 342 00:14:50,425 --> 00:14:53,125 because they needed reviewers and I was their writer 343 00:14:53,185 --> 00:14:54,565 and they were throwing me a ton of work. 344 00:14:54,585 --> 00:14:55,685 And I was like, sure. 345 00:14:55,705 --> 00:14:57,805 In the middle of it, I'll, you know, 346 00:14:57,945 --> 00:14:59,405 put a vibrator on my clit. 347 00:14:59,475 --> 00:15:01,245 It's fine. I think your dog is a 348 00:15:01,245 --> 00:15:02,325 wooing in the other room there. 349 00:15:02,325 --> 00:15:05,485 I think so. JB I think, yeah, Ella, the cat is in here 350 00:15:05,485 --> 00:15:07,405 with us, but Lola is not in here with us. 351 00:15:07,465 --> 00:15:10,485 And Lola's like, uh, excuse me. Let me in. 352 00:15:11,905 --> 00:15:15,765 So yeah, we don't have, we didn't have enough 353 00:15:15,785 --> 00:15:17,085 to go of products. 354 00:15:17,085 --> 00:15:19,085 We had tried that. We were like, we like this enough 355 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:21,565 that we will give it a ringing endorsement. 356 00:15:22,345 --> 00:15:26,725 Um, because, you know, just the nature of it. 357 00:15:27,325 --> 00:15:28,445 I got more toys. 358 00:15:28,585 --> 00:15:29,845 I'd be like, oh God, don't waste 359 00:15:29,845 --> 00:15:30,925 your fucking money on these. 360 00:15:31,545 --> 00:15:33,285 Um, but I didn't wanna do an episode 361 00:15:33,285 --> 00:15:34,565 of don't spend your money on these. 362 00:15:34,565 --> 00:15:38,085 Especially since sex toys are so personal, the thing I hate 363 00:15:38,765 --> 00:15:40,045 somebody else is gonna fucking love. 364 00:15:40,785 --> 00:15:43,205 So we, we didn't do that this year. 365 00:15:43,325 --> 00:15:44,605 I, unless something changes, 366 00:15:45,285 --> 00:15:48,965 I don't see us doing the the favorite sex toy 367 00:15:48,965 --> 00:15:50,725 episodes again in the future. 368 00:15:51,105 --> 00:15:54,005 - No. - Partly because while we are still here with y'all 369 00:15:54,195 --> 00:15:55,245 with the podcast 370 00:15:55,785 --> 00:15:59,965 and the things we do as loving BDSM, the things I did 371 00:15:59,965 --> 00:16:02,485 as Kayla Lorde's individual sex blogger, which 372 00:16:03,125 --> 00:16:05,405 included sex toy reviews, um, 373 00:16:05,825 --> 00:16:08,845 and even some things we did when I had to go 374 00:16:08,845 --> 00:16:12,045 through all the fucking videos, I saw just 375 00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:13,845 how many product reviews we used to do. 376 00:16:13,995 --> 00:16:15,565 Yeah. The nature of the rest 377 00:16:15,585 --> 00:16:17,405 of our work life, our professional life. 378 00:16:17,475 --> 00:16:18,685 There's not a lot of room 379 00:16:18,945 --> 00:16:19,965 - For reviews anymore. 380 00:16:19,965 --> 00:16:24,125 No. There, there's not. Um, you know, from the time 381 00:16:24,235 --> 00:16:28,285 that this was from the inception Mm-Hmm. 382 00:16:28,325 --> 00:16:33,085 of, of all this, um, things have changed and, 383 00:16:33,225 --> 00:16:34,965 and evolved and, and grown. 384 00:16:35,385 --> 00:16:38,165 Mm-Hmm. and, you know, we, we like, 385 00:16:38,225 --> 00:16:39,325 we still like doing this. 386 00:16:39,325 --> 00:16:40,525 We want to keep doing this. 387 00:16:41,105 --> 00:16:43,085 Um, this meaning like the podcast 388 00:16:43,345 --> 00:16:45,205 and the podcasting and that Right. 389 00:16:45,205 --> 00:16:48,205 YouTube and stuff. Yeah. Um, you know, but yeah. 390 00:16:48,205 --> 00:16:51,045 Things have really changed in our life. 391 00:16:51,145 --> 00:16:53,845 And I, and, and you know what, it's not a bad thing. 392 00:16:54,155 --> 00:16:58,165 It's, it's just the nature, uh, of life. Things change. 393 00:16:58,665 --> 00:16:59,725 - Uh, it's the nature of life. 394 00:16:59,745 --> 00:17:02,525 And also we set a goal for ourself that, 395 00:17:02,535 --> 00:17:03,845 knock on wood Mm-Hmm. 396 00:17:03,885 --> 00:17:05,445 , we seem to be achieving. Yeah. 397 00:17:05,505 --> 00:17:07,485 We opened the kry with the idea 398 00:17:07,595 --> 00:17:10,245 that it would be a main source of income. 399 00:17:10,865 --> 00:17:15,205 And slowly over time, that is happening. 400 00:17:15,745 --> 00:17:18,085 You know, anybody who has ever worked 401 00:17:18,145 --> 00:17:21,165 for themselves will probably know how true this is. 402 00:17:21,565 --> 00:17:23,885 I, we work way more hours now than when we 403 00:17:23,885 --> 00:17:25,005 worked for somebody else. 404 00:17:25,005 --> 00:17:28,845 Right. Another entity. And that's fine. I don't mind that. 405 00:17:28,845 --> 00:17:31,365 I get a lot more freedom. I might put a lot more hours in. 406 00:17:31,365 --> 00:17:33,605 But also if a kid has an appointment, I can go, 407 00:17:33,605 --> 00:17:34,805 if I wanna do something in the middle of the day, 408 00:17:34,845 --> 00:17:37,325 I can usually just kind of go, um, . 409 00:17:37,745 --> 00:17:42,005 But what's happened over the past six months to a year, 410 00:17:42,005 --> 00:17:46,045 especially, and even more so in the past, like month 411 00:17:46,825 --> 00:17:50,805 is the kry now requires most 412 00:17:50,825 --> 00:17:52,085 of our working hours. 413 00:17:52,345 --> 00:17:54,565 Yes. And that's not a bad thing. No, it's not. 414 00:17:54,565 --> 00:17:55,925 And neither of us is unhappy about that. 415 00:17:56,585 --> 00:18:00,165 But, you know, if you say yes to something, 416 00:18:00,165 --> 00:18:02,285 you ha you're automatically saying no to other things. 417 00:18:02,585 --> 00:18:05,805 Making our own products a lot more interesting to both 418 00:18:05,805 --> 00:18:09,365 of us, I think, than reviewing somebody else's products. 419 00:18:09,365 --> 00:18:12,245 Correct. Now, I'm not gonna lie, if somebody 420 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,445 or many somebody's ever came to me 421 00:18:14,445 --> 00:18:16,205 and went, look, we know 422 00:18:17,105 --> 00:18:19,965 you are the wand massager queen. 423 00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:24,005 You only want giant heads on top of a vibrator 424 00:18:24,915 --> 00:18:26,605 plastered against your clit. 425 00:18:26,945 --> 00:18:30,405 And somebody was like, I will keep you in wand massagers 426 00:18:30,905 --> 00:18:32,085 for like the next five years 427 00:18:32,085 --> 00:18:32,685 - For life. Yeah. 428 00:18:32,845 --> 00:18:34,165 - I would not say no to that 429 00:18:34,405 --> 00:18:35,405 - . 430 00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:36,525 No, I, yeah. No. That you wouldn't. Yeah. 431 00:18:36,665 --> 00:18:39,165 - But that's, I I also still, I wouldn't say no 432 00:18:39,165 --> 00:18:40,165 and I still don't have time. 433 00:18:40,335 --> 00:18:44,885 Let's be real. Mm-Hmm. . Um, so a lot 434 00:18:44,885 --> 00:18:48,005 of our focus and attention is on the kry at this time 435 00:18:48,005 --> 00:18:49,285 of year especially, but Right. 436 00:18:49,665 --> 00:18:53,325 Um, we've gone from, I did all of the 437 00:18:54,595 --> 00:18:56,085 marketing and online work 438 00:18:56,085 --> 00:18:58,685 and processing of orders, which can, you know, 439 00:18:58,685 --> 00:18:59,965 as we're growing definitely takes up 440 00:18:59,965 --> 00:19:00,965 - Time's. 441 00:19:00,965 --> 00:19:01,685 That's a job in and of itself. It 442 00:19:01,685 --> 00:19:05,405 - Is a job in and of itself to getting us getting so busy. 443 00:19:05,865 --> 00:19:07,005 Yay. Mm-Hmm. , neither 444 00:19:07,005 --> 00:19:08,085 of us is bitching about that. 445 00:19:08,345 --> 00:19:12,405 No. To where you literally could not keep up anymore. No. 446 00:19:12,505 --> 00:19:15,005 And the only way, one for us to even get restocked 447 00:19:15,005 --> 00:19:16,445 and two, to continue growth. 448 00:19:16,955 --> 00:19:20,685 I've had to put in, I mean, 449 00:19:20,785 --> 00:19:23,285 30 hours a week just on product. 450 00:19:23,835 --> 00:19:24,835 - Yeah. - Um, 451 00:19:25,135 --> 00:19:27,565 - Production, I mean in, in, in all honesty. 452 00:19:27,945 --> 00:19:31,285 Um, you know, I can make, 453 00:19:31,405 --> 00:19:33,245 I could make stuff till the cows came home 454 00:19:35,605 --> 00:19:38,785 and it would all be just sitting there on a shelf 455 00:19:38,785 --> 00:19:41,865 because I don't have the wherewithal to go out 456 00:19:41,865 --> 00:19:43,665 and do the social media the way you do. 457 00:19:44,055 --> 00:19:48,905 Alright. You are the social media guru. Mm. You are. 458 00:19:49,625 --> 00:19:52,105 I mean, you, you handle all that. You do it well. 459 00:19:52,805 --> 00:19:54,985 And, and it, and that's a good thing. 460 00:19:55,385 --> 00:19:56,625 I could never do it to the 461 00:19:56,625 --> 00:19:57,705 extent that you do. Well, the thing 462 00:19:57,885 --> 00:19:59,625 - Is, I can post memes all day long. 463 00:19:59,785 --> 00:20:01,465 I can't go make a paddle. Right. 464 00:20:01,665 --> 00:20:02,985 like we need one another. Yeah. 465 00:20:03,085 --> 00:20:06,185 But to continue growing, which is what we want 466 00:20:06,335 --> 00:20:09,065 because we're watching how we've grown since 2020. 467 00:20:10,575 --> 00:20:14,745 Even more hours have to be devoted to making product just 468 00:20:14,745 --> 00:20:15,825 to keep us stocked. 469 00:20:15,965 --> 00:20:18,505 Not even to mention the fact that we were in Orlando 470 00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:20,265 for their shopping event. 471 00:20:20,265 --> 00:20:21,825 Mm-Hmm. , uh, last Saturday. 472 00:20:22,085 --> 00:20:24,985 And the day this episode comes out is Black Friday. 473 00:20:25,605 --> 00:20:28,865 And we we want 474 00:20:29,965 --> 00:20:31,145 wanted this year 475 00:20:31,165 --> 00:20:33,465 to spend more time prepping for Black Friday. 476 00:20:33,735 --> 00:20:36,865 Yeah. And the nature of 477 00:20:36,925 --> 00:20:38,785 how I was working freelance writing, 478 00:20:38,965 --> 00:20:40,785 of course focusing on loving BDSM. 479 00:20:40,785 --> 00:20:42,545 We're not going no damn where with y all ya. No. 480 00:20:42,595 --> 00:20:43,705 Don't ever worry about that. 481 00:20:44,325 --> 00:20:48,205 Um, and the shop plus just other things that were coming up, 482 00:20:49,545 --> 00:20:54,365 we didn't put me on as like your full-time shop elf 483 00:20:54,735 --> 00:20:56,765 until time has no meaning. 484 00:20:56,765 --> 00:20:59,965 And I'm bad with numbers a month ago if that. 485 00:21:00,335 --> 00:21:02,245 Maybe a little longer, a little less. 486 00:21:02,785 --> 00:21:06,845 - Um, I know you weren't helping me in September. 487 00:21:07,575 --> 00:21:10,205 - Uhhuh , - Uh, we're in November, 488 00:21:10,345 --> 00:21:12,245 so it was sometime in October, so 489 00:21:12,245 --> 00:21:13,325 - May maybe a month ago. 490 00:21:13,325 --> 00:21:15,045 Yeah. Ish. Maybe a little longer. Mm-Hmm. . 491 00:21:15,665 --> 00:21:17,045 And that made a huge difference. 492 00:21:17,105 --> 00:21:18,565 - Oh. Immediately it made a huge, huge, 493 00:21:18,785 --> 00:21:20,765 an immediate di difference. But 494 00:21:21,225 --> 00:21:23,085 - We are still, still kind of behind the eight ball. 495 00:21:23,215 --> 00:21:25,765 We're still restocking in the middle 496 00:21:25,765 --> 00:21:27,605 of our Black Friday sale. Right. , 497 00:21:28,185 --> 00:21:30,085 - But, - Which by the way, we have a Black Friday sale. 498 00:21:30,085 --> 00:21:31,245 I'll talk about that in a minute. 499 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:34,965 - Um, yeah. We're, we're still restocking. Mm-Hmm. 500 00:21:35,005 --> 00:21:39,165 . But the restocking is going quicker. Yes. 501 00:21:39,865 --> 00:21:41,165 - And, and there's more of it 502 00:21:41,435 --> 00:21:42,435 - Volumes there. 503 00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:43,565 And the, the, the volume is higher. 504 00:21:44,185 --> 00:21:46,925 And even with all that, we've, um, 505 00:21:46,925 --> 00:21:49,165 essentially brought something new into the mix. 506 00:21:49,555 --> 00:21:51,125 - Yeah. We, we did have 507 00:21:51,125 --> 00:21:52,885 to delay a new thing this year, but that's okay. 508 00:21:52,885 --> 00:21:53,925 Yeah. It'll come out next year. 509 00:21:53,925 --> 00:21:55,725 - Yeah. One, one new thing had to be delayed, 510 00:21:55,725 --> 00:21:58,405 but we did get one new thing, um, out in the mix. 511 00:21:58,835 --> 00:22:03,125 Plus with the extra time I am gaining from 512 00:22:03,575 --> 00:22:06,365 Kayla now helping me in the shop, I'm, I'm going 513 00:22:06,385 --> 00:22:09,405 to be bringing back some things that kind of got pushed 514 00:22:09,465 --> 00:22:12,125 to the side because of time restrictions. Sure. 515 00:22:12,625 --> 00:22:16,285 - Now the the funny thing about this is 516 00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:17,885 there are things I wanna be doing. 517 00:22:18,225 --> 00:22:20,365 Our loving BDSM Etsy shop things. Yeah. 518 00:22:20,565 --> 00:22:22,365 I wanna be working on other things I'd like to work on. 519 00:22:22,545 --> 00:22:25,245 And we have not yet found the balance of how 520 00:22:26,245 --> 00:22:30,205 I can give the time that's needed to helping JB make product 521 00:22:30,385 --> 00:22:34,445 for the Ry Do everything else I was already doing for the Ry 522 00:22:35,785 --> 00:22:38,165 and, and everything we do for living BDSM 523 00:22:38,785 --> 00:22:40,325 and have room for like, 524 00:22:40,385 --> 00:22:41,965 here's some things I wanna be working on 525 00:22:41,965 --> 00:22:43,285 that I think are worth Mm-Hmm. 526 00:22:43,325 --> 00:22:44,885 the time and effort. Mm-Hmm. . So 527 00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:50,485 all that's the crazy 20 minute long-winded way of saying 528 00:22:51,985 --> 00:22:55,045 sex toy reviews are probably a thing of the past for us. 529 00:22:55,865 --> 00:22:58,605 The, our favorite toys of the year 530 00:22:59,265 --> 00:23:00,725 are probably a thing of the past. 531 00:23:00,785 --> 00:23:03,045 Mm-Hmm. . I'm not saying if there's not a year 532 00:23:03,045 --> 00:23:04,805 that we're like, wow, we really did get to, 533 00:23:04,855 --> 00:23:06,645 maybe we bought some stuff, maybe. 534 00:23:06,695 --> 00:23:09,085 - Right. If we, we did get some stuff that we loved. 535 00:23:09,085 --> 00:23:11,045 If we buy some stuff, I, I know there, there's, um, 536 00:23:11,525 --> 00:23:13,965 a couple things I have on the radar Mm-Hmm. 537 00:23:14,005 --> 00:23:15,565 that are some new 538 00:23:15,565 --> 00:23:17,445 and unusual, uh, impact toys. 539 00:23:17,445 --> 00:23:20,005 Mm-Hmm. would love to get my hands on that. 540 00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:23,845 Um, you know, that I think if, if someone were 541 00:23:23,845 --> 00:23:27,005 to approach us and say, Hey, we have this BDSM toy. 542 00:23:27,545 --> 00:23:29,685 Yes. You know, I, I think that would be, 543 00:23:30,065 --> 00:23:34,685 - And even then the, I don't wanna commit to doing reviews 544 00:23:34,745 --> 00:23:38,085 for companies because they take a lot of time and energy. 545 00:23:38,505 --> 00:23:41,525 Mm-Hmm. . And we don't always have that extra 546 00:23:41,525 --> 00:23:43,645 because we're doing all these other things right now, 547 00:23:44,395 --> 00:23:46,645 this episode does come out on Black Friday. 548 00:23:47,505 --> 00:23:51,845 Uh, and if you follow any of our shop kind 549 00:23:51,845 --> 00:23:53,725 of stuff on social, whether that's the kry 550 00:23:53,905 --> 00:23:58,565 or even loving BDSM on, on, uh, social media, hopefully 551 00:23:58,565 --> 00:23:59,965 by now you might've seen it, heard about it. 552 00:23:59,985 --> 00:24:02,525 We are having Black Friday Sales . 553 00:24:02,525 --> 00:24:05,405 Um, I can't tell you about my favorite vibrator in their 554 00:24:05,405 --> 00:24:06,565 Black Friday sale this year, 555 00:24:06,625 --> 00:24:08,765 but I can tell you about our Black Friday sale. 556 00:24:08,895 --> 00:24:11,525 Right. So at the kry, uh, 557 00:24:11,525 --> 00:24:14,525 the kerri.com link in the show notes, uh, , 558 00:24:14,795 --> 00:24:16,725 it's a 20% off sale. 559 00:24:16,745 --> 00:24:19,285 Now that's the biggest discount we give publicly. Right. 560 00:24:19,505 --> 00:24:20,965 Uh, we do give a better discount 561 00:24:20,965 --> 00:24:22,805 to our patrons over on Patreon. 562 00:24:23,185 --> 00:24:26,645 Um, and this is the, the deepest discount we do each year. 563 00:24:26,745 --> 00:24:29,805 So like the best price on stuff is right now. Mm-Hmm. 564 00:24:29,845 --> 00:24:34,045 . Um, the coupon code is Spank, is it Spank 23? 565 00:24:34,255 --> 00:24:36,605 Spanx 23. Oh, shit. I'll have to go look. 566 00:24:37,105 --> 00:24:39,925 Um, it'll be in this show notes. 567 00:24:40,285 --> 00:24:41,285 - . 568 00:24:41,285 --> 00:24:42,445 - It'll be in the show notes. Y'all. 569 00:24:43,185 --> 00:24:46,005 Uh, and it'll actually be on our website. 570 00:24:46,005 --> 00:24:48,285 If you go to the kinky.com, there'll be a message at the top 571 00:24:48,285 --> 00:24:50,205 of the site that tells you what the coupon code is. 572 00:24:50,585 --> 00:24:52,165 Um, that's 20%. 573 00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:54,445 And that sale runs through the end of November. 574 00:24:55,075 --> 00:24:59,285 Basically 11:59 PM Eastern on the last day 575 00:24:59,285 --> 00:25:02,085 of November is the last time you can use the coupon code. 576 00:25:02,625 --> 00:25:05,125 Um, and we have done tons of restocks. 577 00:25:05,175 --> 00:25:07,925 We've introduced two new products. Mm-Hmm. 578 00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:10,125 , um, had to delay a third, 579 00:25:10,135 --> 00:25:12,445 which makes us a little sad, but it's okay. 580 00:25:12,505 --> 00:25:13,965 And we're constantly doing restocks. 581 00:25:13,965 --> 00:25:15,245 So if you go to the site right now 582 00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:18,285 and something is sold out, get on the wait list for it 583 00:25:18,285 --> 00:25:20,285 because we're gonna be busting ass 584 00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,765 to get it restocked during the sale. 585 00:25:22,345 --> 00:25:25,085 Um, loving bds, M's. Etsy shot. Mm-Hmm. 586 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:27,085 as having a Black Friday sale, 587 00:25:27,265 --> 00:25:28,325 no coupon code needed. 588 00:25:28,785 --> 00:25:31,165 Um, the stuff that we make in-house here, 589 00:25:31,265 --> 00:25:36,245 and we ship ourselves, that's I think 30% off the mugs 590 00:25:36,505 --> 00:25:39,005 and shirts where we do not actually produce those. 591 00:25:39,065 --> 00:25:42,485 So we don't control the cost as much. That is 15% off. 592 00:25:43,185 --> 00:25:45,325 Um, and again, our, 593 00:25:45,385 --> 00:25:48,245 our patrons on Patreon get an even better discount. 594 00:25:48,345 --> 00:25:49,365 So Rah haha. 595 00:25:50,165 --> 00:25:54,485 and then both of our vanilla Etsy shops Yeah. 596 00:25:54,485 --> 00:25:57,085 Which have been very neglected in the past 597 00:25:57,915 --> 00:25:58,405 - Year. I 598 00:25:58,645 --> 00:25:59,645 - . 599 00:25:59,785 --> 00:26:03,405 Um, they also, I think they're both shed at 25% off Mm-Hmm. 600 00:26:03,405 --> 00:26:05,085 Everything in the shop. I think that's what I did. Yeah. 601 00:26:05,545 --> 00:26:08,885 So we will link to all of those things in the show notes. 602 00:26:09,025 --> 00:26:10,365 Do not worry if you're interested. 603 00:26:10,505 --> 00:26:11,725 Our, our vanilla shops, 604 00:26:11,725 --> 00:26:13,285 people are like, oh, you have vanilla shops. 605 00:26:13,355 --> 00:26:14,605 Mine is book themed. Right. 606 00:26:14,605 --> 00:26:17,165 Lots of stickers, bookmarks, things like that. Mm-Hmm. 607 00:26:17,205 --> 00:26:19,645 , uh, yours is still wood 608 00:26:19,645 --> 00:26:21,045 themed. Right. You the wood 609 00:26:21,225 --> 00:26:26,005 - Dom wood, wood turnings, uh, from, uh, mechanical pencils 610 00:26:26,145 --> 00:26:31,005 to pens, both, uh, like twist pens, click pens, uh, 611 00:26:32,085 --> 00:26:34,565 fountain pens do some high, high-end fountain pens. 612 00:26:34,565 --> 00:26:36,805 Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm. . Um, and, 613 00:26:36,905 --> 00:26:38,045 and some wooden bowls. 614 00:26:38,385 --> 00:26:40,885 - Yes. Yes. Um, and we each, 615 00:26:40,945 --> 00:26:42,445 and we, I think we say this every year, 616 00:26:42,505 --> 00:26:45,285 and I think, think maybe, maybe we mean it more 617 00:26:45,285 --> 00:26:46,445 seriously for next year. 618 00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:50,245 I think you and I each are going to try to do, spend some 619 00:26:50,245 --> 00:26:53,125 of the extra time we can eke out for ourselves. 620 00:26:53,125 --> 00:26:54,685 Mm-Hmm. focusing on our vanilla 621 00:26:54,685 --> 00:26:55,925 shops so that they can maybe grow 622 00:26:55,925 --> 00:26:56,925 - As well. 623 00:26:56,925 --> 00:26:57,525 Yes. I, I keep looking in my shop 624 00:26:57,525 --> 00:27:01,965 because, you know, it's, it's the, my focus, 625 00:27:02,555 --> 00:27:05,885 well over the last two years really Mm-Hmm. 626 00:27:05,925 --> 00:27:08,925 , um, has been solely on the tinkering. Right. 627 00:27:08,925 --> 00:27:13,045 Growing the kry. And, and it has been tremendous. 628 00:27:13,345 --> 00:27:16,965 And, and I am so grateful for the support 629 00:27:17,035 --> 00:27:18,605 that our crickets and, 630 00:27:18,605 --> 00:27:21,845 and y'all folks out there have, have given us in the shop. 631 00:27:22,365 --> 00:27:23,645 Absolutely. Um, it, it's tremendous. 632 00:27:23,645 --> 00:27:25,965 And I'm, I'm thankful and happy for it. 633 00:27:25,965 --> 00:27:27,725 - It pays our mortgage at this point. Yeah. 634 00:27:27,905 --> 00:27:28,845 And more than that. Mm-Hmm. 635 00:27:28,885 --> 00:27:29,885 . But it absolutely pays our 636 00:27:30,045 --> 00:27:31,045 - Mortgage. 637 00:27:31,045 --> 00:27:33,845 Um, but I, I look at my shop, you know, 638 00:27:33,845 --> 00:27:36,805 because all this, all of this insanity 639 00:27:37,915 --> 00:27:40,885 came from me turning a few pens Mm-Hmm. 640 00:27:40,925 --> 00:27:44,125 and, and bowls, you know, back in the day. And 641 00:27:44,125 --> 00:27:45,485 - Then you decided to get creative and see 642 00:27:45,485 --> 00:27:46,725 could you make a toy? 643 00:27:46,835 --> 00:27:48,685 Yeah. And I was like, I have 644 00:27:48,685 --> 00:27:49,685 - Thoughts . 645 00:27:49,685 --> 00:27:52,685 Right. Um, yeah. I I still have the very first paddle. 646 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:55,485 Mm-Hmm. I made in, in my nightstand. 647 00:27:56,185 --> 00:27:58,325 Um, I look at it and cringe, 648 00:27:58,865 --> 00:27:59,865 - Oh, of course. 649 00:27:59,865 --> 00:28:01,605 'cause your skills have improved so much 650 00:28:01,705 --> 00:28:03,005 and your, your tools have 651 00:28:03,125 --> 00:28:04,125 - Improved so much tools have improved. 652 00:28:04,625 --> 00:28:06,445 Um, you know, but it's no different. 653 00:28:06,565 --> 00:28:08,205 I still have the very first 654 00:28:08,545 --> 00:28:09,765 pen I made Mm-Hmm. . 655 00:28:10,065 --> 00:28:12,085 - And you look at it and - Cringe on, and I look at it and, 656 00:28:12,085 --> 00:28:13,205 and, and cringe. 657 00:28:13,205 --> 00:28:15,325 And like, how could I have made something like that? 658 00:28:15,625 --> 00:28:17,245 - So, you know what's so funny about that? 659 00:28:18,225 --> 00:28:23,165 You have, it's the misfortune. 660 00:28:23,295 --> 00:28:25,685 Maybe not, it's probably a good thing, but I'm with you. 661 00:28:25,765 --> 00:28:27,485 I I, I'll tell you why I'm with you in a second. 662 00:28:27,955 --> 00:28:29,965 Because what you do is physical. 663 00:28:29,965 --> 00:28:33,245 You have physical items unless you hide them away in a 664 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:36,405 drawer, you're forced to look at where you started. 665 00:28:36,555 --> 00:28:39,045 Yeah. Which does let you see how far you've come. Right. 666 00:28:39,045 --> 00:28:41,325 But I, I totally get from a creative perspective 667 00:28:41,585 --> 00:28:44,245 of looking at that early days stuff going, oh my God, 668 00:28:44,485 --> 00:28:46,005 I could never now. 669 00:28:46,005 --> 00:28:48,205 Right, right. As a writer. Mm-Hmm. 670 00:28:48,245 --> 00:28:51,445 with the memory of a fucking goldfish, 671 00:28:51,965 --> 00:28:55,205 I Reef for you to go back 672 00:28:55,465 --> 00:28:58,325 to like archives of anything I've ever created. 673 00:28:59,005 --> 00:29:01,365 Personal sex blog, this podcast. Mm-Hmm. 674 00:29:01,405 --> 00:29:03,245 anything I've ever written. 675 00:29:04,145 --> 00:29:05,645 And go back and read the beginning 676 00:29:05,875 --> 00:29:07,965 because I refuse to cringe that much. 677 00:29:07,965 --> 00:29:10,965 Yeah. 'cause I know I would have the exact same experience. 678 00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:12,485 Mm-Hmm. . So I don't know if you're lucky 679 00:29:12,545 --> 00:29:14,125 or unlucky that you are forced 680 00:29:14,345 --> 00:29:15,345 - To - Look 681 00:29:15,345 --> 00:29:15,755 - Your early stuff. 682 00:29:15,845 --> 00:29:20,725 I, I, I have, um, you know, 683 00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:23,085 I, I enjoy playing games on my phone. 684 00:29:23,185 --> 00:29:24,685 Mm-Hmm. . And, 685 00:29:24,905 --> 00:29:28,485 and lately one of my, my, my games, um, 686 00:29:28,845 --> 00:29:30,165 I found a word search. 687 00:29:30,225 --> 00:29:31,845 Mm-Hmm. . And I love it. 688 00:29:32,165 --> 00:29:33,325 I, I love word searches. 689 00:29:33,525 --> 00:29:35,565 I used to do them on paper all the time, 690 00:29:35,585 --> 00:29:37,285 and it's something I've always enjoyed doing. 691 00:29:37,305 --> 00:29:42,125 And I'm, I've tried a few word search apps in the past 692 00:29:42,305 --> 00:29:44,885 and not been very impressed. 693 00:29:44,985 --> 00:29:47,445 But this one really has me hooked. 694 00:29:47,985 --> 00:29:52,925 Um, but anyway, um, with playing games on, on the phone, 695 00:29:53,665 --> 00:29:57,125 you know, even prior to this, um, I like using a stylus. 696 00:29:57,185 --> 00:30:01,685 Mm-Hmm. . And the stylus I'm using is one 697 00:30:01,685 --> 00:30:03,365 of my early, very first ones. 698 00:30:03,395 --> 00:30:04,605 Very, very first ones. 699 00:30:05,145 --> 00:30:08,005 And it's like every day I'm reminded , 700 00:30:08,275 --> 00:30:09,605 - Like, you're - Like, oh God, 701 00:30:09,765 --> 00:30:12,285 when I pick this thing up and, and I look at it 702 00:30:12,285 --> 00:30:15,365 and I'm like, you know, I could disassemble these components 703 00:30:15,865 --> 00:30:17,525 and, and make yourself a new one and, 704 00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:22,125 and not make a new one, but refresh the old one, you know? 705 00:30:22,145 --> 00:30:23,645 Oh, okay. Clean it up a little bit. 706 00:30:24,265 --> 00:30:26,165 Do you know the new style of finish 707 00:30:26,165 --> 00:30:27,605 that I use and, you know. 708 00:30:27,605 --> 00:30:29,565 Gotcha. So, you know. Yeah. 709 00:30:29,605 --> 00:30:32,805 I, I do think about it in that aspect. . 710 00:30:32,805 --> 00:30:35,245 - Well, I'm curious when you do kind of see 711 00:30:35,245 --> 00:30:36,725 where you've come from Mm-Hmm. 712 00:30:36,765 --> 00:30:38,325 especially now that, like you're stylist, 713 00:30:38,345 --> 00:30:39,925 you're using it consistently. 714 00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:43,365 Yeah. Does it spark inspiration for 715 00:30:43,365 --> 00:30:44,685 how you would do it differently 716 00:30:44,745 --> 00:30:46,485 now? Absolutely. And make you want to make 717 00:30:46,595 --> 00:30:47,595 - Moan? 718 00:30:47,595 --> 00:30:48,845 Absolutely. Mm-Hmm. , absolutely. Mm-Hmm. 719 00:30:48,885 --> 00:30:52,365 . Um, you know, it it, if I take something, 720 00:30:52,705 --> 00:30:54,485 you know, from the beginning that I made 721 00:30:54,545 --> 00:30:58,085 and put it next to something that I've recently made Mm-Hmm. 722 00:30:58,125 --> 00:30:59,925 , you know, which I've got several on my desk, 723 00:30:59,925 --> 00:31:02,565 which I still need to get up on on Etsy. Mm-Hmm. 724 00:31:02,605 --> 00:31:03,605 - . Especially now that there's sale 725 00:31:03,655 --> 00:31:07,485 - Going on, especially now, um, you know, I'm like, while, 726 00:31:07,485 --> 00:31:10,205 while yes, I cringe at looking what I've made in the past. 727 00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:12,325 I look at what I do now 728 00:31:13,465 --> 00:31:17,045 and I'm like, God, I've come so far. 729 00:31:17,225 --> 00:31:18,285 - That's why I say you're, 730 00:31:18,285 --> 00:31:19,965 you're lucky it's not really a misfortune. 731 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:21,605 Yeah. You're cringing at your first thing, 732 00:31:21,605 --> 00:31:24,245 but you get a visual representation Yeah. 733 00:31:24,345 --> 00:31:25,765 Of where you, where you 734 00:31:25,765 --> 00:31:26,885 started. Mm-Hmm. and where you're at 735 00:31:26,945 --> 00:31:27,945 - Now. 736 00:31:27,945 --> 00:31:30,485 For sure. I mean, you know, um, just recently I had 737 00:31:30,485 --> 00:31:31,885 to buy some new lathe tools. 738 00:31:32,225 --> 00:31:35,005 Mm-Hmm. . And it, it's kind 739 00:31:35,005 --> 00:31:36,045 of funny the perspective 740 00:31:36,045 --> 00:31:38,925 because the, the tools I'm using had been using 741 00:31:40,155 --> 00:31:42,165 were the very first lathe tools I bought, 742 00:31:42,165 --> 00:31:43,685 which were from Harbor Freight, 743 00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:45,325 - Which is Yeah. It's like a, 744 00:31:46,225 --> 00:31:48,325 - It it is the ultimate cheapest Yeah. 745 00:31:48,505 --> 00:31:50,085 You can get and, 746 00:31:50,265 --> 00:31:54,045 and you know, it, it is what it got me started. 747 00:31:54,255 --> 00:31:56,605 Right. But, you know, one of the things, and I, 748 00:31:56,605 --> 00:31:59,365 and I struggle with this for so long, um, 749 00:31:59,835 --> 00:32:04,125 because I did have obstacles with the tools Mm-Hmm. 750 00:32:04,165 --> 00:32:07,845 . And I always, I kind of wondered, is it me, 751 00:32:08,475 --> 00:32:10,405 have I not really improved 752 00:32:10,955 --> 00:32:13,325 with the tools over this amount of time? 753 00:32:15,705 --> 00:32:20,005 And, and I got, uh, one of the first sets of, 754 00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:21,805 of new tools, what, last week? 755 00:32:21,925 --> 00:32:24,285 A week, two weeks ago. Yes. As of this recording. 756 00:32:25,105 --> 00:32:27,885 And, and I immediately put them to use 757 00:32:27,885 --> 00:32:30,845 because they have be, these particular tools are something 758 00:32:30,845 --> 00:32:32,725 that I have started using 759 00:32:34,345 --> 00:32:35,885 for everything on the lathe. 760 00:32:35,885 --> 00:32:38,765 Mm-Hmm. , um, uh, it, it's a skew chisel, 761 00:32:38,825 --> 00:32:40,405 if anybody Okay. 762 00:32:40,665 --> 00:32:43,205 Um, various and different sizes and, 763 00:32:43,225 --> 00:32:45,245 and configurations of skew chisels. 764 00:32:45,985 --> 00:32:50,285 Um, apparently from what I have learned, the skew chisel is 765 00:32:51,025 --> 00:32:53,445 not only the most versatile lathe tool, 766 00:32:53,585 --> 00:32:55,325 it is the most difficult to learn. 767 00:32:55,585 --> 00:32:57,685 Mm. Okay. 768 00:32:58,145 --> 00:33:02,645 So I got these new tools and I immediately put them to use. 769 00:33:03,705 --> 00:33:05,525 And man, it, I'm just like, 770 00:33:06,465 --> 00:33:09,125 - You came in and were like, I am making things 771 00:33:09,145 --> 00:33:11,365 so much faster than I was. And, and better you were 772 00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:12,485 - Like, you - Had this bucket and you were like, 773 00:33:12,485 --> 00:33:14,285 you see all these like 20 things. 774 00:33:14,465 --> 00:33:17,285 I'm like, yeah, I made these in two hours. 775 00:33:17,765 --> 00:33:19,605 - . Yeah. Um, they're so cute. 776 00:33:20,125 --> 00:33:22,765 A a apparently I did have the skill. 777 00:33:23,385 --> 00:33:24,605 - You just didn't have the - Tools, just 778 00:33:24,605 --> 00:33:25,645 didn't have the right tools. 779 00:33:25,645 --> 00:33:28,965 Mm-Hmm. Now that I've got the right tools, um, I am, 780 00:33:29,125 --> 00:33:30,525 I am amazing myself at 781 00:33:30,525 --> 00:33:32,805 what I can do on the lathe with these chisels, 782 00:33:33,025 --> 00:33:34,965 - Is it giving you a little bit more confidence? 783 00:33:35,025 --> 00:33:37,285 Yes. Now that you know, it's the tools not, yeah. 784 00:33:37,365 --> 00:33:39,845 I mean Yes. Yes. There's always room for improvement. 785 00:33:39,905 --> 00:33:41,565 You will always learn new things. Right. 786 00:33:41,625 --> 00:33:42,765 Get better as you go. Mm-Hmm. 787 00:33:42,805 --> 00:33:44,485 , blah, blah, blah. But so, 788 00:33:44,485 --> 00:33:47,365 - And that's, I mean, I, I still have a long way to go 789 00:33:47,625 --> 00:33:50,525 to consider myself a, a guru, which Sure, sure. 790 00:33:50,635 --> 00:33:52,205 With with a skew chisel. Right, 791 00:33:52,205 --> 00:33:53,205 - Right. 792 00:33:53,205 --> 00:33:57,845 - But just jumping from the original Harbor Freight tools 793 00:33:58,305 --> 00:34:01,285 to these better quality tools that I got, they 794 00:34:01,285 --> 00:34:02,845 - Make a - Difference. Made a hell of a 795 00:34:02,845 --> 00:34:03,845 - Difference. 796 00:34:03,845 --> 00:34:05,765 And, and so on the one hand, it's like, yeah. 797 00:34:05,905 --> 00:34:09,965 The, the better the tool, the better the outcome in general. 798 00:34:09,985 --> 00:34:12,805 Mm-Hmm. , however, you started 799 00:34:13,195 --> 00:34:14,925 with the cheapest things we could afford. 800 00:34:15,105 --> 00:34:18,005 Yes. And, and when we could not afford to replace shit, 801 00:34:18,065 --> 00:34:21,885 we just, it held on with spit duct tape and dreams. Right. 802 00:34:21,885 --> 00:34:26,445 - Right. Yeah. , - And you've made enough quality 803 00:34:26,465 --> 00:34:30,165 things that the Kry, at least 804 00:34:32,115 --> 00:34:33,885 it's not where we need it to be in terms of 805 00:34:33,885 --> 00:34:34,965 what we need our income to be. 806 00:34:35,025 --> 00:34:36,205 I'm not gonna lie about that, but 807 00:34:36,205 --> 00:34:37,445 good lord, it's getting better. 808 00:34:38,515 --> 00:34:42,145 We've now become a two, a full-time, two person operation. 809 00:34:42,175 --> 00:34:46,265 Like before it was, you were semi full-time, 810 00:34:46,455 --> 00:34:48,745 like 30 hours a week just producing Mm-Hmm. 811 00:34:48,945 --> 00:34:51,665 I was 30 hours a week on the marketing. 812 00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,785 Now I, I'm not pulling back on the marketing, 813 00:34:54,785 --> 00:34:56,585 but I'm trying to get more efficient about that shit. 814 00:34:57,005 --> 00:35:00,425 And now I'm putting my extra time and more into the shop. 815 00:35:00,485 --> 00:35:01,825 So it's two of us in there. Right. 816 00:35:01,825 --> 00:35:03,225 And you're 40 hours a week easily, 817 00:35:03,225 --> 00:35:04,265 - Easily now. Yeah. Just 818 00:35:04,285 --> 00:35:05,285 - On that. 819 00:35:05,285 --> 00:35:07,945 Right. That is not milling. That is not templating. Mm-Hmm. 820 00:35:07,985 --> 00:35:10,265 , that is not the finish of like, daddy, 821 00:35:10,365 --> 00:35:11,705 tie this cord for me on this 822 00:35:11,705 --> 00:35:13,025 paddle . Like, it's not over 823 00:35:13,465 --> 00:35:14,465 - . 824 00:35:15,045 --> 00:35:17,345 - And you got to this point 825 00:35:18,815 --> 00:35:20,465 with the cheapest tools, 826 00:35:21,795 --> 00:35:24,585 which is why anytime somebody's like, you know, how do I, 827 00:35:24,785 --> 00:35:26,585 I don't have resources. 828 00:35:26,705 --> 00:35:28,865 I don't have money to like Mm-Hmm. 829 00:35:28,905 --> 00:35:30,105 buy all these things to start 830 00:35:30,245 --> 00:35:34,745 and that's, you know, writing or online content creation. 831 00:35:34,745 --> 00:35:36,065 Right. Or physical products. 832 00:35:36,135 --> 00:35:40,365 It's like, start where you're at. Yeah. You know, go cheap. 833 00:35:40,545 --> 00:35:43,165 Go free what? Like, whatever it is. Mm-Hmm. . 834 00:35:44,115 --> 00:35:45,765 Just so you get some experience 835 00:35:45,765 --> 00:35:47,165 and figure out what you're capable of. 836 00:35:47,165 --> 00:35:48,445 Right. And as you go, 837 00:35:49,225 --> 00:35:51,645 - You, your build on, I mean, I'm not, I'm not gonna lie if, 838 00:35:51,665 --> 00:35:55,245 if, if, if it is something that you really want to do. 839 00:35:55,505 --> 00:35:58,965 Mm-Hmm. , um, you know, here, 840 00:35:59,035 --> 00:36:01,125 here are some things I've learned over the years. 841 00:36:01,285 --> 00:36:04,645 I have done this. Um, tools matter. Yes. 842 00:36:04,975 --> 00:36:06,365 Tools absolutely matter. 843 00:36:06,365 --> 00:36:10,565 Whether it's, it's, um, uh, electric tools or hand tools. 844 00:36:11,145 --> 00:36:15,005 Um, I, I have gotten to a point where 845 00:36:15,605 --> 00:36:17,205 I have been, I, I'm, 846 00:36:17,265 --> 00:36:20,325 I'm not saying all my tools are high-end tools. 847 00:36:20,385 --> 00:36:21,605 No, they're not. Not all of 'em. 848 00:36:21,605 --> 00:36:23,725 Um, they're, they're more of an intermediate grade at this 849 00:36:23,725 --> 00:36:24,485 - Point. Right? Yeah. 850 00:36:25,145 --> 00:36:28,245 - But they make one hell of a difference. Mm-Hmm. 851 00:36:28,285 --> 00:36:30,445 . So, you know, if, 852 00:36:30,465 --> 00:36:33,245 if it is something you really have a passion for, 853 00:36:33,245 --> 00:36:37,165 and you're able to go for the better tools, um, 854 00:36:39,075 --> 00:36:40,845 something I heard many, 855 00:36:40,845 --> 00:36:43,645 many years ago when I first started this, um, 856 00:36:44,075 --> 00:36:48,565 they talked about how your finish, the finishing 857 00:36:48,565 --> 00:36:52,565 that you put on your product is only as good 858 00:36:52,565 --> 00:36:53,565 as your sanding. 859 00:36:53,905 --> 00:36:55,165 Mm mm-Hmm. . Okay. 860 00:36:56,865 --> 00:36:59,005 And again, in the beginning, um, 861 00:36:59,185 --> 00:37:01,085 all I could afford was Harbor Freight. 862 00:37:01,435 --> 00:37:04,085 Sure. Sandpaper . Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm. 863 00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:08,125 . Um, and, and I struggled with it. 864 00:37:09,715 --> 00:37:12,205 Then I was able to move up to, um, 865 00:37:12,675 --> 00:37:15,965 getting sandpaper from Lowe's or Home Depot. 866 00:37:16,145 --> 00:37:18,685 Mm-Hmm. , which gave me another jump. 867 00:37:19,425 --> 00:37:23,925 Um, now I, I am buying professional grade in bulk, 868 00:37:24,235 --> 00:37:27,165 sandpaper in bulk, in bulk. We 869 00:37:27,165 --> 00:37:28,605 - Could go through so much fucking sandpaper 870 00:37:28,925 --> 00:37:31,845 - , um, - And have multiple 871 00:37:31,845 --> 00:37:33,165 machines that we use for safety. 872 00:37:33,365 --> 00:37:34,645 - use use, use it on. Yeah. 873 00:37:36,345 --> 00:37:38,365 And, and Yes. 874 00:37:38,705 --> 00:37:42,005 The, the it, the, the finish, the, the quality 875 00:37:42,025 --> 00:37:43,485 of the sanding is phenomenal. 876 00:37:44,065 --> 00:37:46,085 - Here's the thing though. And I agree with you. 877 00:37:46,325 --> 00:37:48,365 I agree with you. The tools matter, 878 00:37:48,905 --> 00:37:51,485 but you made products that were good enough 879 00:37:51,485 --> 00:37:53,365 that people went take my money 880 00:37:54,515 --> 00:37:56,605 with the bare minimum cheapy. 881 00:37:56,605 --> 00:37:58,245 Mm-Hmm. . That is not to say 882 00:37:58,245 --> 00:37:59,285 that you should stay there. 883 00:37:59,395 --> 00:38:02,005 It's not to say that, um, 884 00:38:02,675 --> 00:38:05,565 what you make now is not definitely better. 885 00:38:06,115 --> 00:38:07,405 Abso fucking Absolutely. 886 00:38:08,105 --> 00:38:12,405 But to me, it shows you start where you're at 887 00:38:12,405 --> 00:38:13,565 with the budget you have True. 888 00:38:13,745 --> 00:38:16,205 If you wait for all of the conditions to be perfect 889 00:38:16,205 --> 00:38:18,165 before you start that thing, you can't stop thinking of, 890 00:38:18,165 --> 00:38:19,205 you will never fucking start. 891 00:38:19,315 --> 00:38:20,485 True. You just won't. 892 00:38:20,555 --> 00:38:24,965 - True. And, and, you know, I, I have heard so many people, 893 00:38:24,965 --> 00:38:28,725 especially younger people, you know, oh, well I, if, 894 00:38:28,745 --> 00:38:31,285 if I can't do it right, I don't want to do it at all. 895 00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:36,445 - I used to, I sometimes I fight against that. Yeah. 896 00:38:36,525 --> 00:38:39,005 'cause I used to have that thinking was way ingrained in me. 897 00:38:39,005 --> 00:38:40,805 Mm-Hmm. . And then I realized I'd, 898 00:38:40,905 --> 00:38:42,485 I'd never fucking do anything. Yeah. 899 00:38:43,005 --> 00:38:44,085 - I, and you know what? 900 00:38:44,225 --> 00:38:46,805 You, you have to start somewhere. Right? 901 00:38:46,985 --> 00:38:48,405 - And the thing is, is you start somewhere. 902 00:38:48,465 --> 00:38:50,125 And this is making a thing. 903 00:38:50,195 --> 00:38:52,805 This is putting content out on the internet. Mm-Hmm. 904 00:38:52,845 --> 00:38:55,125 , this is whatever you start with where, 905 00:38:55,335 --> 00:38:57,045 where you are with what you have. 906 00:38:57,585 --> 00:39:00,045 And you're right. It's not as good as it could be. 907 00:39:00,275 --> 00:39:02,445 It's not as good as somebody 908 00:39:02,445 --> 00:39:03,765 who's been doing it for 10 years. 909 00:39:03,795 --> 00:39:05,925 Well, first of all, you're on chapter one 910 00:39:05,925 --> 00:39:06,965 and they're on chapter 10. 911 00:39:07,195 --> 00:39:09,085 Okay? Yeah. You're on level one of the game 912 00:39:09,085 --> 00:39:10,205 and they're on level a hundred. 913 00:39:10,255 --> 00:39:12,845 Right. You cannot compare your beginning 914 00:39:12,905 --> 00:39:14,205 to somebody else's middle. 915 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,605 True. That's not fair to anybody. Okay? Mm-Hmm. 916 00:39:16,645 --> 00:39:18,685 , everybody who's been doing a thing 917 00:39:18,685 --> 00:39:20,725 that you admire, I did not know this would 918 00:39:20,725 --> 00:39:22,525 be a pep talk for everybody. But here me, right? 919 00:39:22,555 --> 00:39:25,805 - Yeah. - Everybody who's doing a thing that you admire 920 00:39:25,945 --> 00:39:27,205 and you think, man, they're really good at that. 921 00:39:27,385 --> 00:39:29,325 Man, I wish I could do something like that. Wow. 922 00:39:29,355 --> 00:39:30,685 I'll never be that good. 923 00:39:30,815 --> 00:39:33,485 Every fucking one of us started at the very beginning 924 00:39:33,715 --> 00:39:35,005 with not a fucking thing. 925 00:39:35,255 --> 00:39:37,325 Right. We had to be really shitty at it, 926 00:39:37,745 --> 00:39:40,805 but be passionate enough to kind of go, I'll keep going. 927 00:39:40,985 --> 00:39:42,565 - You, you, you have to have that passion. 928 00:39:42,745 --> 00:39:45,165 You have to have that willingness to learn and to grow. 929 00:39:45,665 --> 00:39:47,605 - And, and this is the hardest one. 930 00:39:47,785 --> 00:39:49,885 And not ev I know not everybody will relate, 931 00:39:49,885 --> 00:39:52,645 but somebody's gonna relate the resistance 932 00:39:52,645 --> 00:39:55,325 and procrastination you feel because it won't be perfect 933 00:39:55,325 --> 00:39:57,045 because you're trying to get all your ducks in a row. 934 00:39:57,045 --> 00:39:57,445 Mm-Hmm. . Because 935 00:39:57,635 --> 00:39:58,925 there's one more thing to learn. 936 00:39:59,665 --> 00:40:01,565 You have to find a way to push through it. 937 00:40:01,625 --> 00:40:03,205 And it is painful if you are like, 938 00:40:03,575 --> 00:40:06,445 especially if like your brain is hardwired to, 939 00:40:06,665 --> 00:40:08,165 to resist that. 940 00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:10,245 Yeah. You gotta push through it. 941 00:40:10,245 --> 00:40:11,845 You gotta let yourself be bad at it. 942 00:40:11,905 --> 00:40:14,245 Now, the the thing is, is you can be kind of shitty 943 00:40:14,345 --> 00:40:16,245 and not show anybody Mm-Hmm. 944 00:40:16,285 --> 00:40:18,725 you can practice by yourself until, 945 00:40:18,735 --> 00:40:20,005 until you're like, okay, 946 00:40:20,155 --> 00:40:22,205 this is something maybe I can show somebody. 947 00:40:22,475 --> 00:40:23,725 Yeah. And bef, you know, 948 00:40:24,065 --> 00:40:27,205 - But you know what, all this talk about having 949 00:40:27,225 --> 00:40:29,405 to start somewhere and, and start at the beginning, 950 00:40:29,505 --> 00:40:30,505 - And I'm ranting at everybody. 951 00:40:30,505 --> 00:40:32,045 Start, and I'm sorry, I'm not mad at you. I promise. 952 00:40:32,345 --> 00:40:34,325 Um, I want good things for every one of you, you 953 00:40:34,325 --> 00:40:36,805 - Know what, you, you can take that advice and, 954 00:40:36,865 --> 00:40:37,925 and you can flip it. 955 00:40:38,345 --> 00:40:42,325 And, and that applies to A-B-D-S-M journey as well. Oh God. 956 00:40:42,325 --> 00:40:43,725 - Yeah. Ev everything. 957 00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:45,885 Look, you go to the workshop 958 00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:48,965 and you watch somebody who's been in the kink lifestyle 959 00:40:48,965 --> 00:40:52,405 for 25, 30 years doing double Florentine with Floggers. 960 00:40:52,405 --> 00:40:54,965 Right. Baby, you don't start there. Mm-Hmm. 961 00:40:55,005 --> 00:40:56,885 , it took them there 20, 25 years 962 00:40:57,025 --> 00:40:58,205 - To get to that boy. 963 00:40:58,205 --> 00:41:01,405 I mean, you, you know, if, if, if you, um, are lucky enough 964 00:41:01,405 --> 00:41:02,605 to be in the Florida area 965 00:41:03,145 --> 00:41:05,045 and you have ever seen a gentleman 966 00:41:05,045 --> 00:41:06,645 with the whip by the name of Dex, 967 00:41:06,805 --> 00:41:08,685 - I think he travels across the country too, does 968 00:41:08,685 --> 00:41:09,685 - He? 969 00:41:09,685 --> 00:41:10,285 Mm-Hmm. I know think so. I know he travels 970 00:41:10,285 --> 00:41:11,485 around Florida and does stuff. 971 00:41:11,605 --> 00:41:13,885 I, I honestly don't know. I thought he went, I thought 972 00:41:14,085 --> 00:41:15,085 - Somebody said he was in Vegas 973 00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:17,125 - Or someone, and and he may be at this point. 974 00:41:19,025 --> 00:41:20,645 The man is a master with the whip. 975 00:41:20,785 --> 00:41:23,045 - Oh God. Yeah. It's like an extension of his fucking arm. 976 00:41:23,325 --> 00:41:27,725 - I I, I have had, I, I have been had the, the pleasure of, 977 00:41:27,785 --> 00:41:31,325 of seeing him twice in, in workshops and, 978 00:41:31,385 --> 00:41:34,245 and the man is just amazing with the whip 979 00:41:35,425 --> 00:41:37,205 and not just a single type of whip. 980 00:41:37,425 --> 00:41:41,485 He uses a variety of styles of whips and, 981 00:41:41,585 --> 00:41:45,285 and he is as accurate with one as he is with the other. 982 00:41:45,465 --> 00:41:48,485 - And that's decades of fucking practice. Yes. Yes. 983 00:41:48,485 --> 00:41:49,525 Well, it's like when people are like, 984 00:41:49,525 --> 00:41:50,645 I want a relationship like you 985 00:41:50,645 --> 00:41:53,285 and John Brownstein have, well, first of all, you have 986 00:41:53,285 --> 00:41:55,285 to have a relationship that is for you and the other person. 987 00:41:55,385 --> 00:41:56,525 Mm-Hmm. . It won't be like us. 988 00:41:56,945 --> 00:41:59,125 But second of all, when, when people are like, well, I, 989 00:41:59,135 --> 00:42:00,325 y'all communicate so well. 990 00:42:00,495 --> 00:42:02,325 Y'all are so vulnerable with one another. 991 00:42:02,705 --> 00:42:05,045 You take this serious. I'm like, we didn't start there. 992 00:42:05,145 --> 00:42:07,125 - No, we didn't. We started - With 20 questions 993 00:42:07,625 --> 00:42:10,045 and a mutual desire for power exchange. 994 00:42:10,305 --> 00:42:12,965 Yes. . We have been awkward with one another. Mm-Hmm. 995 00:42:13,005 --> 00:42:15,165 . We have absolutely have miscommunication. 996 00:42:15,165 --> 00:42:16,365 We still have miscommunication. 997 00:42:16,365 --> 00:42:17,605 - We, it still happens. What 998 00:42:17,605 --> 00:42:18,605 - Was it just yesterday? 999 00:42:18,605 --> 00:42:20,965 Yesterday day before there was something. 1000 00:42:21,225 --> 00:42:24,325 Oh, , because I, I was a pouty baby girl about it. 1001 00:42:25,045 --> 00:42:29,285 . So we have a ritual at bedtime 1002 00:42:29,505 --> 00:42:31,605 and part of that ritual is part of our power exchanges. 1003 00:42:31,765 --> 00:42:33,205 I do not go to bed without permission. 1004 00:42:33,765 --> 00:42:34,965 I might get everything ready. 1005 00:42:35,645 --> 00:42:37,685 I might like be in the bedroom. Right. 1006 00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:41,365 But there's no getting into bed and turning lights out 1007 00:42:41,365 --> 00:42:42,485 and going to sleep without permission. 1008 00:42:42,485 --> 00:42:47,325 Mm-Hmm. . And we, uh, are that ridiculously 1009 00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:51,085 like cringe couple that goes to bed together, . 1010 00:42:51,085 --> 00:42:53,285 Right. Okay. It's very rare that one of us goes to bed. 1011 00:42:53,395 --> 00:42:56,525 Yeah. I was exhausted 1012 00:42:56,825 --> 00:42:59,445 and all I wanted to do was go to sleep. 1013 00:42:59,635 --> 00:43:02,005 Yeah. JB was watching his show 1014 00:43:02,005 --> 00:43:03,765 that I don't wanna watch 'cause it's Guy Zombies, 1015 00:43:03,865 --> 00:43:05,525 - The Walking Dead on - Whatever show. 1016 00:43:05,865 --> 00:43:08,205 So he's watching that. He's in the living room. 1017 00:43:08,315 --> 00:43:09,685 I've been in the bedroom. 'cause I 1018 00:43:09,685 --> 00:43:10,725 don't like to watch zombies. 1019 00:43:10,725 --> 00:43:15,605 It's too much. And I say, I'm really tired. 1020 00:43:15,605 --> 00:43:17,045 Mm-Hmm. . I just want to go to bed. 1021 00:43:18,385 --> 00:43:20,245 And I can't even remember exact words. 1022 00:43:20,245 --> 00:43:21,925 - Words. You, you said you wanted to lay down, I wanna 1023 00:43:21,945 --> 00:43:22,945 - Lay down. 1024 00:43:22,945 --> 00:43:25,125 And you were like, okay, I'll be done 1025 00:43:25,125 --> 00:43:26,965 with this episode soon. 1026 00:43:27,265 --> 00:43:28,805 And I was like, okay, I can hold out 1027 00:43:28,805 --> 00:43:30,525 for 15 minutes and then he'll come to bed. 1028 00:43:31,245 --> 00:43:33,285 I was like, I did all my bedtime stuff. Yeah. 1029 00:43:33,445 --> 00:43:37,005 I, I, uh, pulled down the covers. I got the bed ready. 1030 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:41,085 Well, the episode finished 1031 00:43:41,185 --> 00:43:44,245 and it was, I understand you had to watch the next one. 1032 00:43:44,265 --> 00:43:45,525 It was one of those like cliffhanger, 1033 00:43:45,525 --> 00:43:46,525 - Gotta know what happens. 1034 00:43:46,525 --> 00:43:47,365 Un understand something. 1035 00:43:47,505 --> 00:43:49,325 Um, you know, Kayla 1036 00:43:49,425 --> 00:43:52,685 and I, we've been, when we don't watch a whole lot of tv, 1037 00:43:52,825 --> 00:43:54,525 but when we do, we tend 1038 00:43:54,525 --> 00:43:56,605 to binge watch a lot of stuff together. 1039 00:43:56,885 --> 00:43:59,365 Together. Mm-Hmm. . Um, there are some shows. 1040 00:43:59,765 --> 00:44:03,005 I like that. Not for me. Absolutely no interest in. 1041 00:44:03,065 --> 00:44:04,445 We will not watch, but 1042 00:44:04,445 --> 00:44:05,445 - I can watch YouTube videos. 1043 00:44:05,445 --> 00:44:06,845 I can read a book. It's a big deal. You know, 1044 00:44:07,025 --> 00:44:08,725 - The Walking Dead Fear, the Walking Dead. 1045 00:44:08,725 --> 00:44:12,045 Yep. I don't like zombies. Um, game of Thrones. Yeah. 1046 00:44:12,045 --> 00:44:13,125 - That's just too - Bloody. 1047 00:44:13,305 --> 00:44:15,845 And and the only time I really get to watch that is if 1048 00:44:16,495 --> 00:44:17,765 she's either not here 1049 00:44:18,705 --> 00:44:21,205 or if she is here, she's doing something else. 1050 00:44:21,665 --> 00:44:23,085 So I don't have that opportunity 1051 00:44:23,145 --> 00:44:24,725 to always watch these things. Right. 1052 00:44:24,725 --> 00:44:25,365 - But this is about 1053 00:44:25,365 --> 00:44:26,965 miscommunication, not what we're watching. 1054 00:44:26,965 --> 00:44:30,645 Right. The thing was, as I said, I thought I was clear 1055 00:44:30,645 --> 00:44:31,965 that I want to go to bed. 1056 00:44:32,785 --> 00:44:35,325 JB thought he was clear that he had given me permission. 1057 00:44:35,875 --> 00:44:37,525 Neither of us was clear. Right. 1058 00:44:37,645 --> 00:44:38,805 , I'm laying in the bed 1059 00:44:38,805 --> 00:44:40,325 with the lights on, on my clothes on. 1060 00:44:40,425 --> 00:44:42,405 I'm not under the covers. I've not quote, 1061 00:44:42,475 --> 00:44:43,645 gone to bed to go to sleep. 1062 00:44:44,185 --> 00:44:47,325 And he's like 20 minutes through this next episode 1063 00:44:47,325 --> 00:44:51,485 and I wander out and I'm like, I thought you were coming to 1064 00:44:51,785 --> 00:44:52,785 - Bed. 1065 00:44:52,785 --> 00:44:54,485 . Yeah. And, and that was on me too, 1066 00:44:54,485 --> 00:44:57,165 because the, the episode I was watching 1067 00:44:57,165 --> 00:45:00,485 that I only had 15 minutes in, turned out it was the end 1068 00:45:00,485 --> 00:45:02,405 of the season ended on a cliffhanger. 1069 00:45:02,415 --> 00:45:04,405 Right. It's, and I had, I had to know, I had 1070 00:45:04,405 --> 00:45:05,765 to know what that happened. But 1071 00:45:05,765 --> 00:45:08,365 - That, the thing is, is that's fine. 1072 00:45:09,365 --> 00:45:12,685 I never clearly stated, Hey daddy, I wanna go to bed early. 1073 00:45:12,865 --> 00:45:14,685 Can I go to bed? Can I have permission? 1074 00:45:15,305 --> 00:45:16,965 You thought you were giving me permission, 1075 00:45:16,965 --> 00:45:18,805 but you never clearly stated, stated it. 1076 00:45:18,945 --> 00:45:20,885 You have permission to go to bed. Just do what you gotta do. 1077 00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:24,045 Yeah. . So you're happily watching your show. 1078 00:45:24,565 --> 00:45:29,175 I am in laying down with lights on having a, 1079 00:45:29,535 --> 00:45:32,935 a small little like moment of feeling really pitiful 1080 00:45:32,935 --> 00:45:36,135 for myself at, you know, getting a little overstimulated. 1081 00:45:36,205 --> 00:45:38,815 Clothes felt too tight. MCC collar felt too tight. 1082 00:45:38,885 --> 00:45:40,335 That was the other thing. Macau wasn't off. 1083 00:45:40,335 --> 00:45:41,615 So I certainly wasn't going back. 1084 00:45:41,815 --> 00:45:45,775 like when all this is 10 years in y'all, 1085 00:45:45,915 --> 00:45:47,735 all I needed to do was walk out in the living room 1086 00:45:47,735 --> 00:45:49,415 and go, daddy, I would like to go to bed now. 1087 00:45:49,915 --> 00:45:53,135 Can you pause and can we do the thing? Mm-Hmm. 1088 00:45:53,175 --> 00:45:55,535 and I would've been in bed and snuggled up 1089 00:45:55,635 --> 00:45:56,975 and feeling no pain. 1090 00:45:58,125 --> 00:46:01,745 And we like, that was such the dumbest long-winded way 1091 00:46:01,745 --> 00:46:04,545 to say that anybody who looks at us 1092 00:46:04,645 --> 00:46:07,425 and is like, I want what they have, they do it so well. 1093 00:46:07,705 --> 00:46:10,465 Whatever it may be. First of all, not always. 1094 00:46:10,645 --> 00:46:12,585 And second of all, we're 10 years in 1095 00:46:12,585 --> 00:46:13,985 and we're still figuring shit out. 1096 00:46:14,325 --> 00:46:17,545 We all start by being bad at shit . We 1097 00:46:17,545 --> 00:46:18,705 - Just, - You like, 1098 00:46:18,705 --> 00:46:20,865 every once in a while you can be naturally good at 1099 00:46:20,865 --> 00:46:23,425 something, but when you first start with 1100 00:46:23,425 --> 00:46:24,585 that thing you're naturally good at, 1101 00:46:24,925 --> 00:46:26,665 you're still worse than you'll be 1102 00:46:27,565 --> 00:46:28,905 in a, you know, a couple years. 1103 00:46:28,935 --> 00:46:32,905 Yeah. You're still gonna improve from there. So like, yeah. 1104 00:46:33,495 --> 00:46:36,025 - Yeah. Mm-Hmm. . - I do 1105 00:46:36,025 --> 00:46:38,465 not mean to go on rants. I'm not mad at anybody. 1106 00:46:38,885 --> 00:46:42,025 - No, - This seems appropriate. 1107 00:46:42,265 --> 00:46:46,345 I, um, I don't know what the final podcast title will say, 1108 00:46:46,805 --> 00:46:47,785 but on the little script, 1109 00:46:47,845 --> 00:46:49,065 so I remember the things I wanna say. 1110 00:46:49,185 --> 00:46:52,625 I just wrote Pure randomness, . 1111 00:46:52,935 --> 00:46:55,505 That feels appropriate. That that feels appropriate. 1112 00:46:56,205 --> 00:46:59,225 - But see time from talking about tools and, and, 1113 00:46:59,405 --> 00:47:01,025 and growth we segued into, 1114 00:47:02,225 --> 00:47:03,965 - We managed to still make this about kink. 1115 00:47:03,965 --> 00:47:05,445 Yeah. I don't know. I feel like if we're talking about 1116 00:47:05,445 --> 00:47:07,925 making kink toys, it's automatically about kink, but 1117 00:47:08,555 --> 00:47:09,555 - Yeah. 1118 00:47:09,555 --> 00:47:11,725 - Um, so what, so we're time traveling. 1119 00:47:11,945 --> 00:47:13,165 By the time you can hear this 1120 00:47:13,165 --> 00:47:14,525 Thanksgiving here in the US Mm-Hmm. 1121 00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:15,605 will be over. Um, 1122 00:47:16,545 --> 00:47:19,525 the oldest is coming home Wednesday night 1123 00:47:19,865 --> 00:47:24,605 and then going back Thursday, I think afternoon. Um, 1124 00:47:25,055 --> 00:47:26,245 - We're still unclear about that, 1125 00:47:26,305 --> 00:47:27,405 - But Well that's 1126 00:47:27,405 --> 00:47:30,485 because they have mandatory marching band practice. 1127 00:47:30,485 --> 00:47:33,965 Yeah. On fucking Thanksgiving. What the fuck? I know. 1128 00:47:34,325 --> 00:47:36,645 I know, I know. College is different than blah, blah, blah. 1129 00:47:36,645 --> 00:47:38,685 Yeah. But the fucking school is closed , 1130 00:47:38,685 --> 00:47:40,645 so I just don't think they should have to have practice. 1131 00:47:41,345 --> 00:47:45,125 Um, apparently they had to cancel several practices 1132 00:47:45,285 --> 00:47:46,445 'cause of like weather or whatever. 1133 00:47:46,585 --> 00:47:49,165 And so the makeup ones are quote, mandatory. 1134 00:47:49,745 --> 00:47:51,325 We shall see , uh, 1135 00:47:51,345 --> 00:47:55,525 the oldest has never shied away from, uh, not doing 1136 00:47:55,525 --> 00:47:56,925 what somebody demanded of him. 1137 00:47:57,205 --> 00:47:58,485 . So we'll see. 1138 00:47:59,385 --> 00:48:01,845 Um, the youngest, uh, 1139 00:48:02,345 --> 00:48:05,885 has started his online virtual schooling, which is part 1140 00:48:05,885 --> 00:48:08,965 of homeschooling because I was happy to make him, 1141 00:48:09,105 --> 00:48:10,365 let him be a homeschool student. 1142 00:48:10,425 --> 00:48:12,925 But I am not a homeschool teacher. . 1143 00:48:13,035 --> 00:48:14,285 That is not in my wheelhouse, 1144 00:48:14,465 --> 00:48:16,965 nor is that a skill I want to gain. 1145 00:48:17,265 --> 00:48:18,725 No, thank you. Um, 1146 00:48:18,825 --> 00:48:21,685 so he has started slowly starting those online courses. 1147 00:48:21,755 --> 00:48:25,725 It's, we came at a weird time because literally the Friday 1148 00:48:25,825 --> 00:48:27,325 before Thanksgiving break. 1149 00:48:27,325 --> 00:48:30,405 Thanksgiving, yeah. When the teachers who are part 1150 00:48:30,405 --> 00:48:32,685 of the online course were about to take a week off. 1151 00:48:32,695 --> 00:48:34,725 Right. We were doing like the welcome calls 1152 00:48:34,785 --> 00:48:35,805 and stuff you have to do. 1153 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:39,605 And so he's starting up with that. 1154 00:48:40,145 --> 00:48:44,405 My mom will be here for a week. Mm-Hmm. 1155 00:48:44,445 --> 00:48:46,925 the Sunday after this episode goes live. 1156 00:48:47,105 --> 00:48:48,805 And she'll stay for a solid week. 1157 00:48:49,585 --> 00:48:53,285 And we're in our busy season and need to make product. 1158 00:48:53,465 --> 00:48:57,365 But also, this is my chance, my last chance in 2023 1159 00:48:57,545 --> 00:48:59,205 to be able to spend time with my mom. 1160 00:48:59,335 --> 00:49:02,125 Right. Because we probably won't see her until spring 1161 00:49:02,225 --> 00:49:04,445 of 2024 after this . 1162 00:49:04,865 --> 00:49:08,085 So it's like, well, that'll be a balance . 1163 00:49:08,265 --> 00:49:12,405 Um, but yeah, I mean we're just, 1164 00:49:12,975 --> 00:49:17,205 right now our big focus in life is just on Black Friday. 1165 00:49:17,205 --> 00:49:20,365 Because if you know anything about retail, you know 1166 00:49:20,365 --> 00:49:23,205 that most retailers online 1167 00:49:23,465 --> 00:49:26,805 or in person, the, the last quarter 1168 00:49:26,805 --> 00:49:28,165 of the year, the holidays make a break. 1169 00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:29,845 This is time to make or break. Break. Yep. 1170 00:49:29,845 --> 00:49:34,025 Break we will make, based on my, based on history 1171 00:49:34,245 --> 00:49:37,865 and my projections, we will easily make 30 to 40% 1172 00:49:37,885 --> 00:49:39,305 of our overall sales 1173 00:49:39,925 --> 00:49:42,425 in the last like eight weeks of the year. 1174 00:49:42,485 --> 00:49:43,665 Yep. . 1175 00:49:43,805 --> 00:49:46,185 And we are now at like, what, six weeks of the year left. 1176 00:49:46,725 --> 00:49:50,185 Um, so it's like, it's time to fucking hustle . Yep. 1177 00:49:50,185 --> 00:49:51,945 This is the time to get shit done. Mm-Hmm. . 1178 00:49:52,405 --> 00:49:55,945 Um, which is exciting and great and I, I love it. 1179 00:49:56,045 --> 00:49:59,945 And I look, I came from a retail family. 1180 00:50:00,135 --> 00:50:03,985 Like my mom worked retail my entire adult life in 1181 00:50:03,995 --> 00:50:07,305 management, um, for I think all of it. 1182 00:50:07,885 --> 00:50:10,065 And it's hell on wheels. 1183 00:50:11,085 --> 00:50:13,385 My first like six 1184 00:50:13,385 --> 00:50:15,945 or seven years as a working adult 1185 00:50:16,605 --> 00:50:18,585 was in retail of some sort. 1186 00:50:18,685 --> 00:50:20,425 And I thought when I finally got away from re 1187 00:50:20,425 --> 00:50:22,545 and I did management at the end, uh, 1188 00:50:22,785 --> 00:50:23,985 I thought when I got away from that, 1189 00:50:24,265 --> 00:50:26,465 I would never fucking go back to it. 1190 00:50:26,585 --> 00:50:28,565 I hated it. I what I hate. Here 1191 00:50:28,565 --> 00:50:29,565 - You are - . 1192 00:50:29,565 --> 00:50:32,445 You know what, 'cause what I know it might not make sense 1193 00:50:32,445 --> 00:50:33,805 to everybody, but yes, I'm sitting this 1194 00:50:33,805 --> 00:50:35,005 of also I have control issues. 1195 00:50:35,305 --> 00:50:36,685 We fucking controlled this. 1196 00:50:37,155 --> 00:50:39,205 There's no corporate making decisions 1197 00:50:39,205 --> 00:50:41,005 as if they've never stepped in a fucking store before. 1198 00:50:41,075 --> 00:50:42,565 That is true. Holy shit. Yeah. 1199 00:50:42,825 --> 00:50:45,245 Uh, we get, we get to be really flexible. 1200 00:50:45,345 --> 00:50:48,005 Is a product not doing well? We just fucking shelve. 1201 00:50:48,005 --> 00:50:49,645 It is a product doing really well. 1202 00:50:49,735 --> 00:50:51,645 Let's make like 10 times the amount. 1203 00:50:52,025 --> 00:50:53,605 Um, how creative do we wanna be? 1204 00:50:53,635 --> 00:50:56,605 What, what are people asking for? What new fun thing? 1205 00:50:56,675 --> 00:50:58,765 Like, I fucking love this, 1206 00:50:59,185 --> 00:51:01,205 but you know what, I also was the type 1207 00:51:01,205 --> 00:51:02,885 of person back in the day who was like, 1208 00:51:03,205 --> 00:51:04,525 I can't talk to crowds of people. 1209 00:51:04,645 --> 00:51:05,565 I can't talk to people. I 1210 00:51:05,565 --> 00:51:07,085 can't, I don't know how to educate. 1211 00:51:07,085 --> 00:51:09,965 I don't know how to inform. And also we've had a podcast 1212 00:51:10,095 --> 00:51:13,245 since 2015 that no matter 1213 00:51:13,265 --> 00:51:16,165 how burnt out I get on other things I do Mm-Hmm. 1214 00:51:16,205 --> 00:51:17,765 like the, the podcast. 1215 00:51:18,115 --> 00:51:20,085 Like if we are not doing a podcast on a 1216 00:51:20,085 --> 00:51:22,045 Wednesday, I'm like, what is our life? I don't, 1217 00:51:22,225 --> 00:51:23,225 - No. 1218 00:51:23,225 --> 00:51:25,045 See, I, I have to admit, there are times for me 1219 00:51:25,635 --> 00:51:27,445 with the podcast, I have a little bit 1220 00:51:27,445 --> 00:51:29,525 of a flow ebb and flow. 1221 00:51:30,605 --> 00:51:34,005 - I think I'm better now that we take regular breaks. Yeah. 1222 00:51:34,005 --> 00:51:35,245 Every quarter we're taking a week. 1223 00:51:35,265 --> 00:51:37,605 At the end of this year, we'll take two weeks. Mm-Hmm. 1224 00:51:37,645 --> 00:51:39,725 . Um, so I think that helps. 1225 00:51:40,545 --> 00:51:42,005 - Um, yes, it does. Yes. 1226 00:51:42,535 --> 00:51:44,685 Since we've been taking little breaks here 1227 00:51:44,685 --> 00:51:46,925 and there, that has been a tremendous help with that. 1228 00:51:46,925 --> 00:51:49,885 - And we've gotten more realistic about there are just 1229 00:51:49,885 --> 00:51:51,085 sometimes life gets in the way 1230 00:51:51,085 --> 00:51:52,285 and you just can't fucking record 1231 00:51:52,305 --> 00:51:53,405 or live stream or whatever. 1232 00:51:53,405 --> 00:51:56,645 Yeah. And instead of like forcing ourselves to do something 1233 00:51:56,645 --> 00:51:59,565 that ultimately is gonna like be worse, 1234 00:51:59,815 --> 00:52:01,285 we're gonna be worse off at the end. 1235 00:52:01,585 --> 00:52:04,005 We just go, you know what? Let's, we can't do it this week. 1236 00:52:04,095 --> 00:52:06,125 Right. The, the thing where I tend 1237 00:52:06,125 --> 00:52:07,885 to get burnout's too strong, 1238 00:52:08,005 --> 00:52:09,405 'cause I've, the podcast so far, 1239 00:52:09,405 --> 00:52:11,005 knock on wood has never burned me out. 1240 00:52:11,425 --> 00:52:14,765 But the part where I get a little closer to 1241 00:52:14,765 --> 00:52:17,205 that feeling is in trying to figure out 1242 00:52:17,205 --> 00:52:18,645 what the fuck to talk about. 1243 00:52:18,705 --> 00:52:22,365 We are on episode 375 of our long form Yeah. 1244 00:52:22,365 --> 00:52:23,485 Podcast episodes. 1245 00:52:23,585 --> 00:52:25,805 And then of course you've got all the short form ones we've 1246 00:52:25,805 --> 00:52:27,005 done sporadically over the years. 1247 00:52:27,005 --> 00:52:30,205 Mm-Hmm. . I know that one. 1248 00:52:30,705 --> 00:52:32,525 Not everybody listens to the whole archive, 1249 00:52:32,705 --> 00:52:34,165 so it's okay if you repeat a topic 1250 00:52:34,305 --> 00:52:36,765 and two, even if somebody did listen to an episode 1251 00:52:36,925 --> 00:52:38,525 that we did like eight years ago. 1252 00:52:38,525 --> 00:52:39,485 Mm-Hmm. , you probably don't 1253 00:52:39,605 --> 00:52:40,085 remember what we said. 1254 00:52:40,345 --> 00:52:42,645 So we could do it again. And yet I'm constantly going, 1255 00:52:42,825 --> 00:52:45,685 is there another fresh idea out there? And I don't know. 1256 00:52:45,875 --> 00:52:48,165 - Yeah. And, and yet you talk about, you know, 1257 00:52:48,715 --> 00:52:49,845 redoing an old topic. 1258 00:52:50,505 --> 00:52:53,685 Um, you know, that sometimes it's not a bad thing 1259 00:52:53,685 --> 00:52:57,325 because there again, too, what we talked about it 1260 00:52:58,135 --> 00:53:00,725 maybe five, six years ago, at this point, 1261 00:53:01,945 --> 00:53:03,245 we have a fresh take on it 1262 00:53:03,245 --> 00:53:04,765 because we've grown, we've changed, 1263 00:53:04,825 --> 00:53:06,685 we look at it through different lenses. I know, 1264 00:53:06,905 --> 00:53:07,905 - And I agree. 1265 00:53:07,905 --> 00:53:09,445 And we have done episodes specifically where we go, 1266 00:53:09,445 --> 00:53:11,965 we are revisiting this topic from this episode. 1267 00:53:12,465 --> 00:53:14,805 But I have gotten to a point 1268 00:53:14,805 --> 00:53:19,325 that if I can't pinpoint the fact that this is a, uh, 1269 00:53:20,005 --> 00:53:22,165 a, we're redoing this topic 1270 00:53:22,665 --> 00:53:25,445 and I need to let people know that I know 1271 00:53:25,595 --> 00:53:27,525 that we are repeating the topic . 1272 00:53:27,545 --> 00:53:29,365 And here's the original one we did. 1273 00:53:29,365 --> 00:53:32,085 Like my brain has decided that if I can't do that, 1274 00:53:32,185 --> 00:53:33,725 we can't talk about that topic again. 1275 00:53:33,835 --> 00:53:36,765 - Okay. - And I don't know why. Yeah. 1276 00:53:36,895 --> 00:53:38,725 375 of these things. 1277 00:53:38,945 --> 00:53:42,445 We could talk about a thing we talked about five years 1278 00:53:42,465 --> 00:53:44,165 ago and it would be okay. 1279 00:53:44,185 --> 00:53:46,525 It would either be fresh for some people 1280 00:53:47,185 --> 00:53:49,285 or we would just have a fresh take on it, 1281 00:53:49,305 --> 00:53:52,125 or a slightly even a subtle new take on it. 1282 00:53:52,125 --> 00:53:55,925 Mm-Hmm. But my perfectionistic brain is like, no. 1283 00:53:55,945 --> 00:53:57,525 If it is not a fresh topic, 1284 00:53:57,905 --> 00:53:59,525 if it's something you've never discussed 1285 00:53:59,525 --> 00:54:01,165 before, you're not allowed to do it 1286 00:54:01,865 --> 00:54:05,445 unless you can pinpoint exactly which episode you're like, 1287 00:54:05,465 --> 00:54:06,845 oh, it, I know. 1288 00:54:07,165 --> 00:54:10,045 I cause problems for myself. I get it. I know 1289 00:54:10,045 --> 00:54:11,085 - Who I'm - . 1290 00:54:11,585 --> 00:54:12,845 I'm like this with everything. 1291 00:54:13,405 --> 00:54:14,805 I get into a mode of, 1292 00:54:14,925 --> 00:54:16,285 I think this is how it is supposed to be. 1293 00:54:16,285 --> 00:54:18,965 Mm-Hmm. . And even though I have total control 1294 00:54:18,965 --> 00:54:21,245 over that, there's a part of me that goes, 1295 00:54:21,385 --> 00:54:22,525 but this is the way we do it. 1296 00:54:22,525 --> 00:54:25,285 Yeah. So we can never change the way we do it. . 1297 00:54:28,425 --> 00:54:31,765 I'm fun . Look, but I get shit done. 1298 00:54:32,395 --> 00:54:34,885 - True. - I get you. Do I find efficiencies. 1299 00:54:35,285 --> 00:54:37,365 I wanna streamline processes. Mm-Hmm. 1300 00:54:37,405 --> 00:54:39,285 , I wanna produce as much as I can. 1301 00:54:39,925 --> 00:54:42,285 I get shit done. But don't ask me to pivot 1302 00:54:42,345 --> 00:54:43,645 unless it was my idea. 1303 00:54:43,825 --> 00:54:44,925 And then I can pivot on 1304 00:54:44,995 --> 00:54:45,995 - Done . 1305 00:54:45,995 --> 00:54:47,125 - But if I need to just pivot 1306 00:54:47,125 --> 00:54:49,645 because somebody else suggested it, I will tell you all 1307 00:54:49,645 --> 00:54:51,685 of the reasons why that was impossible. 1308 00:54:52,065 --> 00:54:55,445 And the way I have carefully constructed this routine 1309 00:54:56,225 --> 00:54:59,365 and the way I do a thing can never fucking change. 1310 00:54:59,425 --> 00:55:01,885 - That's why I'm, I just plant, 1311 00:55:02,165 --> 00:55:04,805 I plant a seed and let it grow. 1312 00:55:04,905 --> 00:55:08,085 And she thinks it's her idea. And then away we go, oh God, 1313 00:55:08,265 --> 00:55:09,845 - You're really gonna go with . 1314 00:55:10,525 --> 00:55:12,405 I make her think things are her idea 1315 00:55:12,675 --> 00:55:13,965 that you're really gonna go there. 1316 00:55:14,305 --> 00:55:15,485 - It doesn't work all the time, but 1317 00:55:15,555 --> 00:55:16,555 - Sometimes. 1318 00:55:16,555 --> 00:55:18,645 And me with 10 million ideas every moment of 1319 00:55:18,645 --> 00:55:19,645 - Every day. 1320 00:55:19,645 --> 00:55:20,845 Yeah. I, I know. Come 1321 00:55:20,845 --> 00:55:24,285 - On Now - That, that brain in there is full 1322 00:55:24,705 --> 00:55:26,045 - And constantly moving. 1323 00:55:26,415 --> 00:55:27,445 Constantly moving. 1324 00:55:27,985 --> 00:55:30,485 No, the one thing I have gotten a little bit better about, 1325 00:55:30,805 --> 00:55:34,205 a little bit better about is it used to be if I had an idea 1326 00:55:34,475 --> 00:55:38,965 that sparked my interest, I had to act on it immediately. 1327 00:55:38,965 --> 00:55:41,325 Like it would be a physical pain if I did not. Yeah. 1328 00:55:41,545 --> 00:55:44,565 But then I would be unprepared and I would be overwhelmed 1329 00:55:44,585 --> 00:55:46,645 and I would be stressed and I would stop right in the middle 1330 00:55:46,645 --> 00:55:48,125 of it, even though it was an idea that I loved. 1331 00:55:48,385 --> 00:55:51,325 And I have slowly, painstakingly, 1332 00:55:51,345 --> 00:55:54,405 slowly gotten better at having the idea 1333 00:55:55,025 --> 00:55:56,565 and letting it percolate, 1334 00:55:56,995 --> 00:55:58,845 letting my mind kind of play with it. 1335 00:55:58,845 --> 00:56:00,445 Even if it's like subconsciously, 1336 00:56:00,445 --> 00:56:01,965 like I'm not consciously thinking about 1337 00:56:02,265 --> 00:56:03,725 how do I want to do this thing. 1338 00:56:04,345 --> 00:56:08,885 And for me, the moment my brain can show me the roadmap in 1339 00:56:08,885 --> 00:56:11,285 my head, like, this is the, the idea. 1340 00:56:11,745 --> 00:56:13,805 Here's how to implement the idea. 1341 00:56:13,805 --> 00:56:15,125 Once I have that roadmap in my head, 1342 00:56:15,635 --> 00:56:18,045 then I can go forth and do the thing. 1343 00:56:19,215 --> 00:56:21,965 Until then, we do not jump on things that are exciting. 1344 00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,125 I mean, unless there are people who we are excited 1345 00:56:24,125 --> 00:56:25,685 by then it better be consensual. 1346 00:56:25,965 --> 00:56:27,965 I don't jump on ideas the moment I have them, 1347 00:56:27,965 --> 00:56:29,205 when they excite me, I wait 1348 00:56:29,205 --> 00:56:31,685 until my brain gives me the roadmap. 1349 00:56:31,745 --> 00:56:33,245 And it's, and I say roadmap 1350 00:56:33,245 --> 00:56:34,685 and I mean that literally in my brain. 1351 00:56:34,685 --> 00:56:35,765 Mm-Hmm. . It looks like a path. 1352 00:56:36,065 --> 00:56:37,765 And I go, okay, we're starting here. 1353 00:56:37,765 --> 00:56:40,285 That's the first stone in the path. 1354 00:56:40,825 --> 00:56:42,285 And then I can see each one 1355 00:56:42,305 --> 00:56:43,925 and it's a visual thing in my brain. 1356 00:56:43,925 --> 00:56:45,205 And I go, I know how to get there. 1357 00:56:45,525 --> 00:56:46,685 I know how to do this idea. 1358 00:56:47,185 --> 00:56:48,925 And it's not always 'cause I sat down 1359 00:56:48,925 --> 00:56:51,165 and did, I mean, I probably did do a lot of research 1360 00:56:51,365 --> 00:56:52,405 'cause I was excited about it. 1361 00:56:52,665 --> 00:56:54,285 - No, that's the way you want's your na 1362 00:56:54,285 --> 00:56:55,365 that's your nature. Yeah. My 1363 00:56:55,365 --> 00:56:56,365 - New thing to focus on. 1364 00:56:56,365 --> 00:56:57,565 Mm-Hmm. . But I'll do the research 1365 00:56:57,665 --> 00:56:58,965 and then I'll have this moment 1366 00:56:58,965 --> 00:57:00,565 of I don't know how to make this happen. 1367 00:57:01,025 --> 00:57:02,445 And I, I'll panic a little bit 1368 00:57:02,445 --> 00:57:04,485 and then I'll go, whew, you got other shit to do. 1369 00:57:04,785 --> 00:57:07,365 Put this like on, on the back burner of your mind. 1370 00:57:07,905 --> 00:57:09,965 And then apparently my subconscious is just 1371 00:57:09,965 --> 00:57:11,005 doing shit . 1372 00:57:11,425 --> 00:57:12,965 And then there'll come a day that I'll go, 1373 00:57:13,155 --> 00:57:14,445 what happened to that idea I had? 1374 00:57:14,445 --> 00:57:18,605 And if the, the excitement still gets sparked, then 1375 00:57:19,505 --> 00:57:22,405 if again, if I get that roadmap visual in my brain Mm-Hmm. 1376 00:57:22,445 --> 00:57:23,445 , we get to start on it. 1377 00:57:24,275 --> 00:57:26,325 This podcast, was that the shop? 1378 00:57:26,385 --> 00:57:28,125 Was that Yeah, the Etsy shop. 1379 00:57:28,145 --> 00:57:30,965 Was that the new products that we add to the Etsy? 1380 00:57:30,995 --> 00:57:32,965 Like everything we do? Yeah. That's how I do it. Yep. 1381 00:57:33,985 --> 00:57:35,885 But I do have to like sit on my hands sometimes. 1382 00:57:35,965 --> 00:57:37,325 I go, you don't jump on that idea 1383 00:57:37,695 --> 00:57:39,045 until you're actually ready to do it. 1384 00:57:39,385 --> 00:57:43,165 And you actually have a roadmap. I'm fun. 1385 00:57:43,745 --> 00:57:45,965 No, nobody wants to spend any time in this brain of mine. 1386 00:57:46,075 --> 00:57:50,805 Okay. . Nobody. Okay. 1387 00:57:51,505 --> 00:57:53,765 We should probably start wrapping it up. Uh, let's 1388 00:57:54,015 --> 00:57:55,805 - Spend about an hour. Hour. I know. 1389 00:57:55,825 --> 00:57:57,365 - Wow. Let's finish it up 1390 00:57:57,365 --> 00:57:59,525 with Lola is the best good girl ever. 1391 00:57:59,585 --> 00:58:01,445 She is laying at my feet right now. Yep. 1392 00:58:02,105 --> 00:58:04,125 Uh, Ella and Onyx are good. 1393 00:58:04,225 --> 00:58:06,605 And also they're little shits, but that's why we like them. 1394 00:58:06,695 --> 00:58:07,885 Right. , 1395 00:58:08,635 --> 00:58:09,805 - Each in their own way. Right. 1396 00:58:09,945 --> 00:58:11,445 - The kids are good. Mm-Hmm. . 1397 00:58:11,445 --> 00:58:14,485 As far as we know, , we're time traveling. 1398 00:58:14,585 --> 00:58:16,005 By the time you hear this, we're 1399 00:58:16,385 --> 00:58:17,725 who the fuck knows what's going on. 1400 00:58:18,265 --> 00:58:22,325 Um, we hope to have a peaceful, quiet, 1401 00:58:22,865 --> 00:58:24,045 uh, Thanksgiving. 1402 00:58:24,145 --> 00:58:25,405 Mm-Hmm. day and meal. 1403 00:58:26,025 --> 00:58:28,685 And then a raucous black fucking Friday. Yeah. 1404 00:58:28,685 --> 00:58:29,925 Through all of our shops. Yep. 1405 00:58:30,065 --> 00:58:32,485 The Kry and all of our Etsy shops. 1406 00:58:32,505 --> 00:58:34,845 And they will all be linked in the show notes. 1407 00:58:35,345 --> 00:58:38,965 Um, if you are American or in America 1408 00:58:39,425 --> 00:58:40,685 and you celebrate Thanksgiving, 1409 00:58:40,965 --> 00:58:43,525 'cause we have, uh, American friends who live overseas 1410 00:58:43,625 --> 00:58:45,005 and they celebrate Thanksgiving. 1411 00:58:45,035 --> 00:58:46,525 Yeah. as well. 1412 00:58:46,545 --> 00:58:49,565 If you celebrate, uh, Thanksgiving, uh, in November 1413 00:58:50,225 --> 00:58:52,405 as we do, uh, we hope you've had a good Thanksgiving. 1414 00:58:52,405 --> 00:58:53,765 Mm-Hmm. . Hey Canadian friends. 1415 00:58:53,805 --> 00:58:55,245 I know you had your Thanksgiving in October. 1416 00:58:55,485 --> 00:58:57,045 I hope it was a good Thanksgiving then too. 1417 00:58:57,045 --> 00:59:00,325 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, if you are not American 1418 00:59:00,345 --> 00:59:02,205 and do not have Thanksgiving, you don't have to. 1419 00:59:02,345 --> 00:59:05,765 It is basically a day where you have a good meal. 1420 00:59:06,145 --> 00:59:09,565 Uh, the traditional foods here, traditional is Turkey, 1421 00:59:09,585 --> 00:59:10,605 but we're having ham. 1422 00:59:11,225 --> 00:59:13,605 Um, and then the sides that you like the best 1423 00:59:14,025 --> 00:59:17,165 and you ideally you get together with the family. You like 1424 00:59:17,605 --> 00:59:18,685 - . Yeah. The, 1425 00:59:18,785 --> 00:59:21,405 - The not so great part of the tradition is getting together 1426 00:59:21,405 --> 00:59:22,525 with family you don't like 1427 00:59:22,545 --> 00:59:23,965 and you disagree with on everything. 1428 00:59:25,105 --> 00:59:26,605 We are having a peaceful life. Yeah. 1429 00:59:26,605 --> 00:59:28,565 It is just the four of us this year. . Mm-Hmm. 1430 00:59:28,605 --> 00:59:30,765 next week when my mom's in town, 1431 00:59:30,765 --> 00:59:32,805 we'll do a belated one with everybody. 1432 00:59:33,495 --> 00:59:34,925 Thankfully we get along with everybody. 1433 00:59:35,145 --> 00:59:36,325 - Yes, yes, yes. - So yeah. 1434 00:59:36,325 --> 00:59:38,765 Just like have a big meal with people you like. Mm-Hmm. 1435 00:59:38,805 --> 00:59:40,565 , you've celebrated Thanksgiving. 1436 00:59:40,755 --> 00:59:42,005 Talk about what you're thankful for. 1437 00:59:42,295 --> 00:59:46,925 - Ta-da. Right. I mean, a lot, a lot of people I've seen, 1438 00:59:47,105 --> 00:59:50,045 uh, now anymore maybe the last few years, 1439 00:59:50,155 --> 00:59:53,125 it's become more popular that, um, you know, 1440 00:59:53,345 --> 00:59:56,005 not everybody has, uh, blood family 1441 00:59:56,625 --> 00:59:57,725 - Or wants to be around - Or, 1442 00:59:57,865 --> 00:59:59,765 or wants to be around their blood family. 1443 01:00:00,425 --> 01:00:02,765 Um, case in point. Mm-Hmm. 1444 01:00:02,805 --> 01:00:04,805 - . Mm-Hmm. - . And, uh, they do, 1445 01:00:05,105 --> 01:00:07,325 uh, what they call now call Friendsgiving. Oh, 1446 01:00:07,605 --> 01:00:08,605 - Absolutely. 1447 01:00:08,605 --> 01:00:10,605 - Absolutely. You know, and, and they get together with, 1448 01:00:10,605 --> 01:00:13,085 with friends and, and that has become their family. 1449 01:00:13,505 --> 01:00:16,205 - And some people don't do the traditional meals. 1450 01:00:16,365 --> 01:00:18,485 They do whatever the fuck sounds good. Right. 1451 01:00:18,625 --> 01:00:21,245 And I don't know if I've seen this in terms of Friendsgiving 1452 01:00:21,345 --> 01:00:23,605 or just like friends getting together, 1453 01:00:24,145 --> 01:00:25,725 but there was one I saw online 1454 01:00:25,735 --> 01:00:28,805 where everybody brought like a dip that they liked 1455 01:00:28,805 --> 01:00:30,765 and then the, and I was like, I want a dip party. 1456 01:00:30,965 --> 01:00:33,005 I want all the dips , I want dessert dips, 1457 01:00:33,125 --> 01:00:34,165 I want savory dips. 1458 01:00:34,285 --> 01:00:37,405 I want all the, and all the chips to go in all the debt. 1459 01:00:37,665 --> 01:00:38,925 I'm here for this. Mm-Hmm. 1460 01:00:38,965 --> 01:00:41,165 there, there's just the two of us. 1461 01:00:41,325 --> 01:00:42,645 I would be a very small debt party. 1462 01:00:42,645 --> 01:00:45,125 It would, but I would, I would eat the shit out of that. 1463 01:00:45,785 --> 01:00:48,645 Um, I am a person who doesn't want Friendsgiving 1464 01:00:48,705 --> 01:00:50,205 and I don't want a big family Thanksgiving. 1465 01:00:50,245 --> 01:00:53,645 I wanna be in my house with no bra on, no makeup, 1466 01:00:53,945 --> 01:00:56,765 on my hair, looking a mess, eating food 1467 01:00:56,765 --> 01:00:58,045 that makes me fat and happy. 1468 01:00:58,435 --> 01:01:00,365 That is all I want. Mm-Hmm. . I want peace. 1469 01:01:00,565 --> 01:01:03,045 I wanna be in my house only with the few people 1470 01:01:03,595 --> 01:01:04,605 that I love the most. 1471 01:01:05,005 --> 01:01:06,565 . Yeah. That's all I need. 1472 01:01:07,225 --> 01:01:08,765 So we're getting that for this one. Mm-Hmm. . 1473 01:01:09,305 --> 01:01:12,725 So if you celebrate, we hope you had a, a good one. Yeah. 1474 01:01:12,945 --> 01:01:14,885 In whatever form it took. 1475 01:01:15,585 --> 01:01:17,645 If you don't celebrate, that's okay. 1476 01:01:18,225 --> 01:01:20,485 Uh, have you a big meal. Mm-Hmm. . 1477 01:01:20,485 --> 01:01:21,805 That makes you feel good and, you know, 1478 01:01:22,415 --> 01:01:23,845 spend time with people you care about. 1479 01:01:23,845 --> 01:01:25,485 There you go. Tomorrow you've done it. Mm-Hmm. 1480 01:01:25,525 --> 01:01:27,885 . Um, we're gonna like completely ignore the 1481 01:01:28,065 --> 01:01:30,725 air quote history of what Thanksgiving is supposed to be 1482 01:01:30,725 --> 01:01:34,045 because everybody was taught incorrectly in third grade. 1483 01:01:34,345 --> 01:01:36,925 So we just, we're just not gonna worry about that . 1484 01:01:37,265 --> 01:01:39,965 Um, and yeah, we're gonna go do our thing 1485 01:01:40,025 --> 01:01:41,565 and keep getting, we're time traveling. 1486 01:01:41,625 --> 01:01:43,645 We are still getting ready for Black Friday. Yeah. 1487 01:01:44,155 --> 01:01:46,125 When you hear this, you will be in the middle of it. 1488 01:01:46,265 --> 01:01:47,285 We will be in the middle of it. 1489 01:01:47,585 --> 01:01:49,405 Uh, so I don't know what it'll be, but we're gonna keep 1490 01:01:49,405 --> 01:01:52,405 getting ready and hopefully next 1491 01:01:52,405 --> 01:01:53,485 week we'll be back to normal. 1492 01:01:54,725 --> 01:01:57,285 Whatever that is for us. We don't Yeah. Normal's. Just 1493 01:01:57,545 --> 01:01:59,645 - Our, our normal is crazy. 1494 01:02:00,355 --> 01:02:03,885 - Yeah. , it's chaotic. - Um, ridiculousness. Yeah. 1495 01:02:04,125 --> 01:02:07,045 - . And so if you actually listen to this pure 1496 01:02:08,455 --> 01:02:12,045 randomness episode that was not informative or educational. 1497 01:02:12,495 --> 01:02:14,165 Thank you. We appreciate you. 1498 01:02:14,265 --> 01:02:15,265 - We appreciate you being here. 1499 01:02:15,465 --> 01:02:18,765 - Uh, and hopefully we will be back to, like I 1500 01:02:18,765 --> 01:02:20,645 - Said, air quote normal next week. 1501 01:02:20,645 --> 01:02:21,925 Yeah. Mm-Hmm, . Okay, we're gonna go. Okay. 1502 01:02:21,925 --> 01:02:23,445 Okay. So are we good? I don't know. 1503 01:02:24,635 --> 01:02:26,805 Keep, keep it kinky ky and we'll see.