- You are listening to the Loving BDSM podcast,
episode 3 75 K.
The Lord's here with the one, the only,
the guy who's in his underwear.
'cause this is just a podcast episode
and no livestream, jump brownstone.
- That's right. I'm going old school.
Back to the, uh, beginning old
- School would be one microphone that is only in front of me
in a hot stuffy closet.
You have your own mic.
- True . - You were about to deny it.
I saw your face. I saw your face. I saw your face.
You're like, no I don't. Dude. Dude. What is that then?
Other than a very large dick? I don't know.
don't point that thing at me.
his microphone. Y I'm not his dick.
If he points his dick at me, it's fine. It's fine.
It's what I signed up for. Hi, we're here. Hi.
- I'm a little later on in when we were recording
at my desk at night.
- Okay. We still only had one microphone. True . And,
- And I don't, but I didn't, but I didn't have pants.
- I am both a microphone, hog and slut. So
- You are No.
Denying that in the least.
- Um, you know how normally I'll go, oh, look at us.
Let's get like this week.
That's not what we're talking about. That No,
this week is probably gonna be pretty random
because this week is basically a bonus section episode.
We will explain why when we get through it to it
in about, you know, 90 seconds.
Sure. Um, if you are a person who enjoys the bonus sections,
maybe you consider yourself a proud cricket.
All that good stuff. You'll probably like this one.
It's just us talking about just stuff.
Uh, if you really only want
to hear about power exchange stuff and kink stuff,
and like the education information part, skip this one.
This one won't be for you. That's okay.
Our feelings are not hurt.
Um, we did not want to skip this week. Mm-Hmm.
. But also we did not have the brain capacity
to like, put together a decent topic.
Correct. And also we're breaking tradition
for the first time since we started the podcast. We
- Are.
- So yeah. That's, uh, that's what we're doing here. Mm-Hmm.
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If you're back for another week, welcome back.
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Or on YouTube at youtube.com/loving bdsm.
Or you can watch us live stream the podcast every Wednesday,
except not this Wednesday.
And I'm still pissed about it.
All links are in the show notes.
Also, Onyx is on our recording table
and is getting all of the butt rubs.
Uh, if you heard a little scratchy, scratchy,
that was JB trying to get her up on the recording table
so she could point her butt hole at me, .
Uh, and now she's gone.
- She came, did what she was required to do
and has to fill her job and left.
- That's true. That's true. Yeah.
Uh, we got the serotonin dopamine thing.
Serotonin dopamine, both. Mm-Hmm. .
I don't remember how the brain chemicals work,
but we got a bit of that while she climbs on the boxes
that I've laid out very nicely
for our Black Friday
- Sale.
They're for her pleasure. Yeah. Yeah.
- We - Just, for her climbing pleasure for her.
- So let's start with stuff that listeners who are like,
follow the podcast.
Like, you know, when shit is supposed to come out.
Uh, and let's start with that.
Uh, there was no episode, short episode this Monday.
Not because there was anything wrong with the podcast.
- Kayla got put in the corner and it wasn't by me. And
- I hate the fucking corner.
Okay. Nobody puts baby girl in a fucking corner
except her daddy Dom.
And that's under very specific circumstances.
And YouTube did not have my fucking consent for this
so clearly we're able to produce something.
'cause you can hear our voice right now.
So why no Monday podcast episode?
Well, it was because we couldn't put out the YouTube
version of it at the same time.
And I didn't want us to be off
like a podcast on Monday
- Out of kilter.
- Yeah. I didn't like it. So we were
like, fuck it, we'll delay it.
Um, now why did you two put us in the car?
- - YouTube flagged
a video from I think like two
or three years ago, maybe longer, that happened
to have a link to FetLife in it.
And they went, no, no, that's a bad link.
So we're gonna give you a community strike,
which is not a content strike.
It's not a copyright strike. If you know anything about
YouTube, it's a oops, you went against our terms of service.
Uh, we're putting you in the corner for a week.
You cannot post. You cannot live stream. You cannot do shit.
You can't even, like, the thing
that really kills me is you can't even post
to the community tab
where you could put up an announcement going, you know,
this thing we do all the time, we can't do it for a week.
Mm-Hmm. , you can't do any of that.
And then of course they give you the scary warning
that if it happens a second time, uh,
then it's like two weeks or 30 days or something like that.
And then if it happens a third time, your channel's gone.
Bye-Bye. Right? So I was like, oh fuck, okay,
let me start checking videos.
So first I was pissed 'cause
we're grounded for a week, right?
Mm-Hmm. . So there was no
live stream this week.
Uh, we couldn't upload the Monday video, blah, blah, blah.
And here's, here we are doing our Friday podcast
'cause we control it and we can do that.
Um, but then I started looking at other videos.
I was like, I, I know now like in 2023
that I don't put certain links
or types of links in the description box on YouTube.
Mm-Hmm. because it could get flagged, right?
But that's today me, past me was way too fucking naive.
So I was like, lemme go kinda look through some videos,
make sure there's no sketchy links.
That is when I discovered,
and this is how ridiculous YouTube is,
but also it scared the shit outta me kind of perusing
through just randomly a couple of videos.
That is when I discovered that nearly every single piece
of content we have put on YouTube includes a link
to our felt life profile.
'cause I had always been like, oh, I can put this in
and if somebody wants to follow us there, there's the link.
Mm-Hmm. . So this is how stupid YouTube is.
They flagged that one instance of the link in a video
that's been out two, three years.
I can't remember if it was a 2021 or a 2019 video.
They all like start to just run together.
Your brain after a while, that one was a bad link.
But the link that has existed in, and I know the numbers now
'cause I had to go through them 257 uploaded videos
and 387 live streams.
Not a problem. I was like, okay, YouTube is stupid.
They're gonna figure this out.
Next thing you know, our channel's gonna be banned if I
don't get rid of these links.
Mm-Hmm. . So I spent an hour
and a half manually removing the FET Life link from all
257 uploaded videos
before I finally went, wait, is there a bulk edit?
Is there a way to do this Less tedious? This?
Why did I finally have that come to that conclusion?
'cause I got over to the live stream content
and was like, there's 387 of these fuckers.
What the hell have we been doing? We've been live streaming,
I think since like 2018.
2019 is what the fuck we've been doing .
That was when I found the bulk edit
and removed all of the Fat Life links.
There you go. But see, the the thing
that really pisses me off is you can't just go in,
remove the link and say, Hey YouTube, I've removed the link.
Let me post. Like, I won't put that link again.
That link is gone. Let me post to my fucking channel.
Uhuh, when you're grounded, you're grounded. Mm-Hmm.
, there is no redemption for you. No. Nope.
Nope. And then irony of ironies. Annoyances of annoyances.
I went through all of our uploaded videos
and uh, there was one where we had
reviewed A-B-D-S-M like little blank journal
thing that was super cute.
And I looked at the links we had included in that video,
and one of the links was to the person
who put together this little journal Mm-Hmm.
. And I thought, oh, that should be fine.
They're, they're an educator. They're a content creator.
I didn't even go check the link.
I just went, oh, it's not felt life. It's not like a porn.
It's fine, it's fine. But
because I had gone into that video, edited out
the Fat Life fucking link
and then updated it, YouTube was like, oh, we're on this.
Oh, it did not give me the strike
that puts us in the corner.
But it did come up with a thing like 10 minutes later,
the link in, in this, this link right here.
The link to the author of the Mm-Hmm. .
BDSM Journal. That's an adult link. You can't have that.
We've removed that. So I went to check the link. Yeah.
She's like pro dom.
She, um, does like cam stuff
and blah blah, like all that, which is fine.
You y'all know. Yeah. We don't care.
But , it never occurred to me to go check the link.
I almost got us a second community strike.
They didn't penalize me for that.
I think it's because something in the email was like,
you may not have realized this was an adult link.
You think goodness.
And that was what? That was Sunday. Yeah.
That was Sunday when we had come back from Orlando on
Saturday, which was a great day.
We had a good time. Um, but we were exhausted.
And I was like, okay, we still,
I still have some work to do.
Let me like work on this stuff.
And I had to stop everything
and try to make it
so I couldn't get in trouble with YouTube anymore.
And, and there's, there could be a link out there
that I somehow missed that I thought was innocuous
and it dings us at some point.
I don't know. That was a long-winded way
to tell you about my annoyance
and why this is a podcast only Mm-Hmm.
Week, which is kicking it old school. Yeah.
You and your underwear. Just the two of us
each get our microphone now.
So it's like completely old school. Yeah. Just talking.
And that's not an awful thing. Mm-Hmm. .
Look, I am that annoying person who tries
to see the bright side of things, tries
to find silver linings, tries to find meaning
in most shitty things because I'm an eternal optimist
and that is how I'm wired.
I'm sensitive enough these days
to not put that on somebody else.
It's just my own shit. I do that with. Yeah.
So this would have been the week under
normal circumstances.
And in different times,
this also would've been our big Black Friday episode,
our favorite Sex Toys of the year.
Yeah. Let's go through it. Let's talk about it.
Blah, blah, blah. We have done that since the
very beginning.
We have 2015. I don't think we've ever missed a year
before .
We're missing it this year.
And maybe this has been discontinued for future years
because we are not, excuse me,
we are not heavily reviewing anymore.
Um, there's just not enough time,
uh, in life for all the things we're working on
to also review toys.
We were doing some reviews for, um,
a site that I was freelancing for.
They're no longer gonna be publishing.
So that's not even the opportunity.
And the downside to that was while they would send each
of us a ridiculous amount of product, most
of them were fucking d It's like .
The reason I, and I, I've known this for a while,
but I don't think about it too much.
The reason most of our reviews were mostly positive
and we could find favorites each year.
Mm-Hmm. was because when we were heavily
reviewing, companies were consistently reaching out.
Yes. And we had our pick of, we think we'll like that.
Right. Let's review it.
We don't think we'll like it, so why would I review it? That
- Kind of stuff.
And the companies that we work with through that, um,
they were pretty much, we, we could pick and choose.
Right. Alright.
So we pick companies that we felt kind
of aligned Right. With, with
- Us.
Exactly. Both professionally and then personally.
And, and then in terms of what we like for sex toys. Mm-Hmm.
. And like, there was a lot more control
and the, there was a higher volume
because the more you review product,
the more companies will ask you to review their product.
Right. Once we went to, oh, we're kind of only reviewing
for this site that I was writing for, you know,
you were my stump penis .
They were like, we need a, a person
with a penises perspective.
I was like, I got one of those, uh, , uh, that is
how you ended up with 20 plus flashlights
though. God, right? .
- Oh my - God.
- So many - Flashlights. Yeah. They're in boxes.
Just box, like cardboard boxes in our bedroom stack
- Box. Yeah.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um,
and I ended up with, I have eight
bullet vibrators, of which, like one I'm like,
yeah, I kind of like that one a lot.
, um, eight, maybe nine panty vibrators.
One of which I'm like, I don't really use these,
but this one I like.
Um, and then other products was like, ah,
I gave an honest review,
but it's not, it's just not one I'm gonna grab.
Yeah. So there was nothing really
for this year for us to go.
These are our favorites.
- I, I think a lot of it.
And, and, you know, to be totally honest with, with folks,
at least from my perspective, um, while it is fun, you know,
to get all these, these products
and try them, I, I think what kind of, uh,
happened, I know from my speak for myself
and maybe for both of us, um, it, it kind of got
to a little point to burnout with all that stuff. Oh
- God.
Yeah. Oh God. Yeah.
Like at this point, if I don't think the product,
if the product's not a type
that I would gravitate towards anyway.
Mm-Hmm. . And I don't feel like 98% confident
it's gonna be as good as labeled.
I don't want, I don't even care. Yeah.
Like, I just don't care. I was fine doing it as part
of my job working with this, this site
because they needed reviewers and I was their writer
and they were throwing me a ton of work.
And I was like, sure.
In the middle of it, I'll, you know,
put a vibrator on my clit.
It's fine. I think your dog is a
wooing in the other room there.
I think so. JB I think, yeah, Ella, the cat is in here
with us, but Lola is not in here with us.
And Lola's like, uh, excuse me. Let me in.
So yeah, we don't have, we didn't have enough
to go of products.
We had tried that. We were like, we like this enough
that we will give it a ringing endorsement.
Um, because, you know, just the nature of it.
I got more toys.
I'd be like, oh God, don't waste
your fucking money on these.
Um, but I didn't wanna do an episode
of don't spend your money on these.
Especially since sex toys are so personal, the thing I hate
somebody else is gonna fucking love.
So we, we didn't do that this year.
I, unless something changes,
I don't see us doing the the favorite sex toy
episodes again in the future.
- No. - Partly because while we are still here with y'all
with the podcast
and the things we do as loving BDSM, the things I did
as Kayla Lorde's individual sex blogger, which
included sex toy reviews, um,
and even some things we did when I had to go
through all the fucking videos, I saw just
how many product reviews we used to do.
Yeah. The nature of the rest
of our work life, our professional life.
There's not a lot of room
- For reviews anymore.
No. There, there's not. Um, you know, from the time
that this was from the inception Mm-Hmm.
of, of all this, um, things have changed and,
and evolved and, and grown.
Mm-Hmm. and, you know, we, we like,
we still like doing this.
We want to keep doing this.
Um, this meaning like the podcast
and the podcasting and that Right.
YouTube and stuff. Yeah. Um, you know, but yeah.
Things have really changed in our life.
And I, and, and you know what, it's not a bad thing.
It's, it's just the nature, uh, of life. Things change.
- Uh, it's the nature of life.
And also we set a goal for ourself that,
knock on wood Mm-Hmm.
, we seem to be achieving. Yeah.
We opened the kry with the idea
that it would be a main source of income.
And slowly over time, that is happening.
You know, anybody who has ever worked
for themselves will probably know how true this is.
I, we work way more hours now than when we
worked for somebody else.
Right. Another entity. And that's fine. I don't mind that.
I get a lot more freedom. I might put a lot more hours in.
But also if a kid has an appointment, I can go,
if I wanna do something in the middle of the day,
I can usually just kind of go, um, .
But what's happened over the past six months to a year,
especially, and even more so in the past, like month
is the kry now requires most
of our working hours.
Yes. And that's not a bad thing. No, it's not.
And neither of us is unhappy about that.
But, you know, if you say yes to something,
you ha you're automatically saying no to other things.
Making our own products a lot more interesting to both
of us, I think, than reviewing somebody else's products.
Correct. Now, I'm not gonna lie, if somebody
or many somebody's ever came to me
and went, look, we know
you are the wand massager queen.
You only want giant heads on top of a vibrator
plastered against your clit.
And somebody was like, I will keep you in wand massagers
for like the next five years
- For life. Yeah.
- I would not say no to that
- .
No, I, yeah. No. That you wouldn't. Yeah.
- But that's, I I also still, I wouldn't say no
and I still don't have time.
Let's be real. Mm-Hmm. . Um, so a lot
of our focus and attention is on the kry at this time
of year especially, but Right.
Um, we've gone from, I did all of the
marketing and online work
and processing of orders, which can, you know,
as we're growing definitely takes up
- Time's.
That's a job in and of itself. It
- Is a job in and of itself to getting us getting so busy.
Yay. Mm-Hmm. , neither
of us is bitching about that.
No. To where you literally could not keep up anymore. No.
And the only way, one for us to even get restocked
and two, to continue growth.
I've had to put in, I mean,
30 hours a week just on product.
- Yeah. - Um,
- Production, I mean in, in, in all honesty.
Um, you know, I can make,
I could make stuff till the cows came home
and it would all be just sitting there on a shelf
because I don't have the wherewithal to go out
and do the social media the way you do.
Alright. You are the social media guru. Mm. You are.
I mean, you, you handle all that. You do it well.
And, and it, and that's a good thing.
I could never do it to the
extent that you do. Well, the thing
- Is, I can post memes all day long.
I can't go make a paddle. Right.
like we need one another. Yeah.
But to continue growing, which is what we want
because we're watching how we've grown since 2020.
Even more hours have to be devoted to making product just
to keep us stocked.
Not even to mention the fact that we were in Orlando
for their shopping event.
Mm-Hmm. , uh, last Saturday.
And the day this episode comes out is Black Friday.
And we we want
wanted this year
to spend more time prepping for Black Friday.
Yeah. And the nature of
how I was working freelance writing,
of course focusing on loving BDSM.
We're not going no damn where with y all ya. No.
Don't ever worry about that.
Um, and the shop plus just other things that were coming up,
we didn't put me on as like your full-time shop elf
until time has no meaning.
And I'm bad with numbers a month ago if that.
Maybe a little longer, a little less.
- Um, I know you weren't helping me in September.
- Uhhuh , - Uh, we're in November,
so it was sometime in October, so
- May maybe a month ago.
Yeah. Ish. Maybe a little longer. Mm-Hmm. .
And that made a huge difference.
- Oh. Immediately it made a huge, huge,
an immediate di difference. But
- We are still, still kind of behind the eight ball.
We're still restocking in the middle
of our Black Friday sale. Right. ,
- But, - Which by the way, we have a Black Friday sale.
I'll talk about that in a minute.
- Um, yeah. We're, we're still restocking. Mm-Hmm.
. But the restocking is going quicker. Yes.
- And, and there's more of it
- Volumes there.
And the, the, the volume is higher.
And even with all that, we've, um,
essentially brought something new into the mix.
- Yeah. We, we did have
to delay a new thing this year, but that's okay.
Yeah. It'll come out next year.
- Yeah. One, one new thing had to be delayed,
but we did get one new thing, um, out in the mix.
Plus with the extra time I am gaining from
Kayla now helping me in the shop, I'm, I'm going
to be bringing back some things that kind of got pushed
to the side because of time restrictions. Sure.
- Now the the funny thing about this is
there are things I wanna be doing.
Our loving BDSM Etsy shop things. Yeah.
I wanna be working on other things I'd like to work on.
And we have not yet found the balance of how
I can give the time that's needed to helping JB make product
for the Ry Do everything else I was already doing for the Ry
and, and everything we do for living BDSM
and have room for like,
here's some things I wanna be working on
that I think are worth Mm-Hmm.
the time and effort. Mm-Hmm. . So
all that's the crazy 20 minute long-winded way of saying
sex toy reviews are probably a thing of the past for us.
The, our favorite toys of the year
are probably a thing of the past.
Mm-Hmm. . I'm not saying if there's not a year
that we're like, wow, we really did get to,
maybe we bought some stuff, maybe.
- Right. If we, we did get some stuff that we loved.
If we buy some stuff, I, I know there, there's, um,
a couple things I have on the radar Mm-Hmm.
that are some new
and unusual, uh, impact toys.
Mm-Hmm. would love to get my hands on that.
Um, you know, that I think if, if someone were
to approach us and say, Hey, we have this BDSM toy.
Yes. You know, I, I think that would be,
- And even then the, I don't wanna commit to doing reviews
for companies because they take a lot of time and energy.
Mm-Hmm. . And we don't always have that extra
because we're doing all these other things right now,
this episode does come out on Black Friday.
Uh, and if you follow any of our shop kind
of stuff on social, whether that's the kry
or even loving BDSM on, on, uh, social media, hopefully
by now you might've seen it, heard about it.
We are having Black Friday Sales .
Um, I can't tell you about my favorite vibrator in their
Black Friday sale this year,
but I can tell you about our Black Friday sale.
Right. So at the kry, uh,
the kerri.com link in the show notes, uh, ,
it's a 20% off sale.
Now that's the biggest discount we give publicly. Right.
Uh, we do give a better discount
to our patrons over on Patreon.
Um, and this is the, the deepest discount we do each year.
So like the best price on stuff is right now. Mm-Hmm.
. Um, the coupon code is Spank, is it Spank 23?
Spanx 23. Oh, shit. I'll have to go look.
Um, it'll be in this show notes.
- .
- It'll be in the show notes. Y'all.
Uh, and it'll actually be on our website.
If you go to the kinky.com, there'll be a message at the top
of the site that tells you what the coupon code is.
Um, that's 20%.
And that sale runs through the end of November.
Basically 11:59 PM Eastern on the last day
of November is the last time you can use the coupon code.
Um, and we have done tons of restocks.
We've introduced two new products. Mm-Hmm.
, um, had to delay a third,
which makes us a little sad, but it's okay.
And we're constantly doing restocks.
So if you go to the site right now
and something is sold out, get on the wait list for it
because we're gonna be busting ass
to get it restocked during the sale.
Um, loving bds, M's. Etsy shot. Mm-Hmm.
as having a Black Friday sale,
no coupon code needed.
Um, the stuff that we make in-house here,
and we ship ourselves, that's I think 30% off the mugs
and shirts where we do not actually produce those.
So we don't control the cost as much. That is 15% off.
Um, and again, our,
our patrons on Patreon get an even better discount.
So Rah haha.
and then both of our vanilla Etsy shops Yeah.
Which have been very neglected in the past
- Year. I
- .
Um, they also, I think they're both shed at 25% off Mm-Hmm.
Everything in the shop. I think that's what I did. Yeah.
So we will link to all of those things in the show notes.
Do not worry if you're interested.
Our, our vanilla shops,
people are like, oh, you have vanilla shops.
Mine is book themed. Right.
Lots of stickers, bookmarks, things like that. Mm-Hmm.
, uh, yours is still wood
themed. Right. You the wood
- Dom wood, wood turnings, uh, from, uh, mechanical pencils
to pens, both, uh, like twist pens, click pens, uh,
fountain pens do some high, high-end fountain pens.
Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm. . Um, and,
and some wooden bowls.
- Yes. Yes. Um, and we each,
and we, I think we say this every year,
and I think, think maybe, maybe we mean it more
seriously for next year.
I think you and I each are going to try to do, spend some
of the extra time we can eke out for ourselves.
Mm-Hmm. focusing on our vanilla
shops so that they can maybe grow
- As well.
Yes. I, I keep looking in my shop
because, you know, it's, it's the, my focus,
well over the last two years really Mm-Hmm.
, um, has been solely on the tinkering. Right.
Growing the kry. And, and it has been tremendous.
And, and I am so grateful for the support
that our crickets and,
and y'all folks out there have, have given us in the shop.
Absolutely. Um, it, it's tremendous.
And I'm, I'm thankful and happy for it.
- It pays our mortgage at this point. Yeah.
And more than that. Mm-Hmm.
. But it absolutely pays our
- Mortgage.
Um, but I, I look at my shop, you know,
because all this, all of this insanity
came from me turning a few pens Mm-Hmm.
and, and bowls, you know, back in the day. And
- Then you decided to get creative and see
could you make a toy?
Yeah. And I was like, I have
- Thoughts .
Right. Um, yeah. I I still have the very first paddle.
Mm-Hmm. I made in, in my nightstand.
Um, I look at it and cringe,
- Oh, of course.
'cause your skills have improved so much
and your, your tools have
- Improved so much tools have improved.
Um, you know, but it's no different.
I still have the very first
pen I made Mm-Hmm. .
- And you look at it and - Cringe on, and I look at it and,
and, and cringe.
And like, how could I have made something like that?
- So, you know what's so funny about that?
You have, it's the misfortune.
Maybe not, it's probably a good thing, but I'm with you.
I I, I'll tell you why I'm with you in a second.
Because what you do is physical.
You have physical items unless you hide them away in a
drawer, you're forced to look at where you started.
Yeah. Which does let you see how far you've come. Right.
But I, I totally get from a creative perspective
of looking at that early days stuff going, oh my God,
I could never now.
Right, right. As a writer. Mm-Hmm.
with the memory of a fucking goldfish,
I Reef for you to go back
to like archives of anything I've ever created.
Personal sex blog, this podcast. Mm-Hmm.
anything I've ever written.
And go back and read the beginning
because I refuse to cringe that much.
Yeah. 'cause I know I would have the exact same experience.
Mm-Hmm. . So I don't know if you're lucky
or unlucky that you are forced
- To - Look
- Your early stuff.
I, I, I have, um, you know,
I, I enjoy playing games on my phone.
Mm-Hmm. . And,
and lately one of my, my, my games, um,
I found a word search.
Mm-Hmm. . And I love it.
I, I love word searches.
I used to do them on paper all the time,
and it's something I've always enjoyed doing.
And I'm, I've tried a few word search apps in the past
and not been very impressed.
But this one really has me hooked.
Um, but anyway, um, with playing games on, on the phone,
you know, even prior to this, um, I like using a stylus.
Mm-Hmm. . And the stylus I'm using is one
of my early, very first ones.
Very, very first ones.
And it's like every day I'm reminded ,
- Like, you're - Like, oh God,
when I pick this thing up and, and I look at it
and I'm like, you know, I could disassemble these components
and, and make yourself a new one and,
and not make a new one, but refresh the old one, you know?
Oh, okay. Clean it up a little bit.
Do you know the new style of finish
that I use and, you know.
Gotcha. So, you know. Yeah.
I, I do think about it in that aspect. .
- Well, I'm curious when you do kind of see
where you've come from Mm-Hmm.
especially now that, like you're stylist,
you're using it consistently.
Yeah. Does it spark inspiration for
how you would do it differently
now? Absolutely. And make you want to make
- Moan?
Absolutely. Mm-Hmm. , absolutely. Mm-Hmm.
. Um, you know, it it, if I take something,
you know, from the beginning that I made
and put it next to something that I've recently made Mm-Hmm.
, you know, which I've got several on my desk,
which I still need to get up on on Etsy. Mm-Hmm.
- . Especially now that there's sale
- Going on, especially now, um, you know, I'm like, while,
while yes, I cringe at looking what I've made in the past.
I look at what I do now
and I'm like, God, I've come so far.
- That's why I say you're,
you're lucky it's not really a misfortune.
Yeah. You're cringing at your first thing,
but you get a visual representation Yeah.
Of where you, where you
started. Mm-Hmm. and where you're at
- Now.
For sure. I mean, you know, um, just recently I had
to buy some new lathe tools.
Mm-Hmm. . And it, it's kind
of funny the perspective
because the, the tools I'm using had been using
were the very first lathe tools I bought,
which were from Harbor Freight,
- Which is Yeah. It's like a,
- It it is the ultimate cheapest Yeah.
You can get and,
and you know, it, it is what it got me started.
Right. But, you know, one of the things, and I,
and I struggle with this for so long, um,
because I did have obstacles with the tools Mm-Hmm.
. And I always, I kind of wondered, is it me,
have I not really improved
with the tools over this amount of time?
And, and I got, uh, one of the first sets of,
of new tools, what, last week?
A week, two weeks ago. Yes. As of this recording.
And, and I immediately put them to use
because they have be, these particular tools are something
that I have started using
for everything on the lathe.
Mm-Hmm. , um, uh, it, it's a skew chisel,
if anybody Okay.
Um, various and different sizes and,
and configurations of skew chisels.
Um, apparently from what I have learned, the skew chisel is
not only the most versatile lathe tool,
it is the most difficult to learn.
Mm. Okay.
So I got these new tools and I immediately put them to use.
And man, it, I'm just like,
- You came in and were like, I am making things
so much faster than I was. And, and better you were
- Like, you - Had this bucket and you were like,
you see all these like 20 things.
I'm like, yeah, I made these in two hours.
- . Yeah. Um, they're so cute.
A a apparently I did have the skill.
- You just didn't have the - Tools, just
didn't have the right tools.
Mm-Hmm. Now that I've got the right tools, um, I am,
I am amazing myself at
what I can do on the lathe with these chisels,
- Is it giving you a little bit more confidence?
Yes. Now that you know, it's the tools not, yeah.
I mean Yes. Yes. There's always room for improvement.
You will always learn new things. Right.
Get better as you go. Mm-Hmm.
, blah, blah, blah. But so,
- And that's, I mean, I, I still have a long way to go
to consider myself a, a guru, which Sure, sure.
With with a skew chisel. Right,
- Right.
- But just jumping from the original Harbor Freight tools
to these better quality tools that I got, they
- Make a - Difference. Made a hell of a
- Difference.
And, and so on the one hand, it's like, yeah.
The, the better the tool, the better the outcome in general.
Mm-Hmm. , however, you started
with the cheapest things we could afford.
Yes. And, and when we could not afford to replace shit,
we just, it held on with spit duct tape and dreams. Right.
- Right. Yeah. , - And you've made enough quality
things that the Kry, at least
it's not where we need it to be in terms of
what we need our income to be.
I'm not gonna lie about that, but
good lord, it's getting better.
We've now become a two, a full-time, two person operation.
Like before it was, you were semi full-time,
like 30 hours a week just producing Mm-Hmm.
I was 30 hours a week on the marketing.
Now I, I'm not pulling back on the marketing,
but I'm trying to get more efficient about that shit.
And now I'm putting my extra time and more into the shop.
So it's two of us in there. Right.
And you're 40 hours a week easily,
- Easily now. Yeah. Just
- On that.
Right. That is not milling. That is not templating. Mm-Hmm.
, that is not the finish of like, daddy,
tie this cord for me on this
paddle . Like, it's not over
- .
- And you got to this point
with the cheapest tools,
which is why anytime somebody's like, you know, how do I,
I don't have resources.
I don't have money to like Mm-Hmm.
buy all these things to start
and that's, you know, writing or online content creation.
Right. Or physical products.
It's like, start where you're at. Yeah. You know, go cheap.
Go free what? Like, whatever it is. Mm-Hmm. .
Just so you get some experience
and figure out what you're capable of.
Right. And as you go,
- You, your build on, I mean, I'm not, I'm not gonna lie if,
if, if, if it is something that you really want to do.
Mm-Hmm. , um, you know, here,
here are some things I've learned over the years.
I have done this. Um, tools matter. Yes.
Tools absolutely matter.
Whether it's, it's, um, uh, electric tools or hand tools.
Um, I, I have gotten to a point where
I have been, I, I'm,
I'm not saying all my tools are high-end tools.
No, they're not. Not all of 'em.
Um, they're, they're more of an intermediate grade at this
- Point. Right? Yeah.
- But they make one hell of a difference. Mm-Hmm.
. So, you know, if,
if it is something you really have a passion for,
and you're able to go for the better tools, um,
something I heard many,
many years ago when I first started this, um,
they talked about how your finish, the finishing
that you put on your product is only as good
as your sanding.
Mm mm-Hmm. . Okay.
And again, in the beginning, um,
all I could afford was Harbor Freight.
Sure. Sandpaper . Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm.
. Um, and, and I struggled with it.
Then I was able to move up to, um,
getting sandpaper from Lowe's or Home Depot.
Mm-Hmm. , which gave me another jump.
Um, now I, I am buying professional grade in bulk,
sandpaper in bulk, in bulk. We
- Could go through so much fucking sandpaper
- , um, - And have multiple
machines that we use for safety.
- use use, use it on. Yeah.
And, and Yes.
The, the it, the, the finish, the, the quality
of the sanding is phenomenal.
- Here's the thing though. And I agree with you.
I agree with you. The tools matter,
but you made products that were good enough
that people went take my money
with the bare minimum cheapy.
Mm-Hmm. . That is not to say
that you should stay there.
It's not to say that, um,
what you make now is not definitely better.
Abso fucking Absolutely.
But to me, it shows you start where you're at
with the budget you have True.
If you wait for all of the conditions to be perfect
before you start that thing, you can't stop thinking of,
you will never fucking start.
True. You just won't.
- True. And, and, you know, I, I have heard so many people,
especially younger people, you know, oh, well I, if,
if I can't do it right, I don't want to do it at all.
- I used to, I sometimes I fight against that. Yeah.
'cause I used to have that thinking was way ingrained in me.
Mm-Hmm. . And then I realized I'd,
I'd never fucking do anything. Yeah.
- I, and you know what?
You, you have to start somewhere. Right?
- And the thing is, is you start somewhere.
And this is making a thing.
This is putting content out on the internet. Mm-Hmm.
, this is whatever you start with where,
where you are with what you have.
And you're right. It's not as good as it could be.
It's not as good as somebody
who's been doing it for 10 years.
Well, first of all, you're on chapter one
and they're on chapter 10.
Okay? Yeah. You're on level one of the game
and they're on level a hundred.
Right. You cannot compare your beginning
to somebody else's middle.
True. That's not fair to anybody. Okay? Mm-Hmm.
, everybody who's been doing a thing
that you admire, I did not know this would
be a pep talk for everybody. But here me, right?
- Yeah. - Everybody who's doing a thing that you admire
and you think, man, they're really good at that.
Man, I wish I could do something like that. Wow.
I'll never be that good.
Every fucking one of us started at the very beginning
with not a fucking thing.
Right. We had to be really shitty at it,
but be passionate enough to kind of go, I'll keep going.
- You, you, you have to have that passion.
You have to have that willingness to learn and to grow.
- And, and this is the hardest one.
And not ev I know not everybody will relate,
but somebody's gonna relate the resistance
and procrastination you feel because it won't be perfect
because you're trying to get all your ducks in a row.
Mm-Hmm. . Because
there's one more thing to learn.
You have to find a way to push through it.
And it is painful if you are like,
especially if like your brain is hardwired to,
to resist that.
Yeah. You gotta push through it.
You gotta let yourself be bad at it.
Now, the the thing is, is you can be kind of shitty
and not show anybody Mm-Hmm.
you can practice by yourself until,
until you're like, okay,
this is something maybe I can show somebody.
Yeah. And bef, you know,
- But you know what, all this talk about having
to start somewhere and, and start at the beginning,
- And I'm ranting at everybody.
Start, and I'm sorry, I'm not mad at you. I promise.
Um, I want good things for every one of you, you
- Know what, you, you can take that advice and,
and you can flip it.
And, and that applies to A-B-D-S-M journey as well. Oh God.
- Yeah. Ev everything.
Look, you go to the workshop
and you watch somebody who's been in the kink lifestyle
for 25, 30 years doing double Florentine with Floggers.
Right. Baby, you don't start there. Mm-Hmm.
, it took them there 20, 25 years
- To get to that boy.
I mean, you, you know, if, if, if you, um, are lucky enough
to be in the Florida area
and you have ever seen a gentleman
with the whip by the name of Dex,
- I think he travels across the country too, does
- He?
Mm-Hmm. I know think so. I know he travels
around Florida and does stuff.
I, I honestly don't know. I thought he went, I thought
- Somebody said he was in Vegas
- Or someone, and and he may be at this point.
The man is a master with the whip.
- Oh God. Yeah. It's like an extension of his fucking arm.
- I I, I have had, I, I have been had the, the pleasure of,
of seeing him twice in, in workshops and,
and the man is just amazing with the whip
and not just a single type of whip.
He uses a variety of styles of whips and,
and he is as accurate with one as he is with the other.
- And that's decades of fucking practice. Yes. Yes.
Well, it's like when people are like,
I want a relationship like you
and John Brownstein have, well, first of all, you have
to have a relationship that is for you and the other person.
Mm-Hmm. . It won't be like us.
But second of all, when, when people are like, well, I,
y'all communicate so well.
Y'all are so vulnerable with one another.
You take this serious. I'm like, we didn't start there.
- No, we didn't. We started - With 20 questions
and a mutual desire for power exchange.
Yes. . We have been awkward with one another. Mm-Hmm.
. We have absolutely have miscommunication.
We still have miscommunication.
- We, it still happens. What
- Was it just yesterday?
Yesterday day before there was something.
Oh, , because I, I was a pouty baby girl about it.
. So we have a ritual at bedtime
and part of that ritual is part of our power exchanges.
I do not go to bed without permission.
I might get everything ready.
I might like be in the bedroom. Right.
But there's no getting into bed and turning lights out
and going to sleep without permission.
Mm-Hmm. . And we, uh, are that ridiculously
like cringe couple that goes to bed together, .
Right. Okay. It's very rare that one of us goes to bed.
Yeah. I was exhausted
and all I wanted to do was go to sleep.
Yeah. JB was watching his show
that I don't wanna watch 'cause it's Guy Zombies,
- The Walking Dead on - Whatever show.
So he's watching that. He's in the living room.
I've been in the bedroom. 'cause I
don't like to watch zombies.
It's too much. And I say, I'm really tired.
Mm-Hmm. . I just want to go to bed.
And I can't even remember exact words.
- Words. You, you said you wanted to lay down, I wanna
- Lay down.
And you were like, okay, I'll be done
with this episode soon.
And I was like, okay, I can hold out
for 15 minutes and then he'll come to bed.
I was like, I did all my bedtime stuff. Yeah.
I, I, uh, pulled down the covers. I got the bed ready.
Well, the episode finished
and it was, I understand you had to watch the next one.
It was one of those like cliffhanger,
- Gotta know what happens.
Un understand something.
Um, you know, Kayla
and I, we've been, when we don't watch a whole lot of tv,
but when we do, we tend
to binge watch a lot of stuff together.
Together. Mm-Hmm. . Um, there are some shows.
I like that. Not for me. Absolutely no interest in.
We will not watch, but
- I can watch YouTube videos.
I can read a book. It's a big deal. You know,
- The Walking Dead Fear, the Walking Dead.
Yep. I don't like zombies. Um, game of Thrones. Yeah.
- That's just too - Bloody.
And and the only time I really get to watch that is if
she's either not here
or if she is here, she's doing something else.
So I don't have that opportunity
to always watch these things. Right.
- But this is about
miscommunication, not what we're watching.
Right. The thing was, as I said, I thought I was clear
that I want to go to bed.
JB thought he was clear that he had given me permission.
Neither of us was clear. Right.
, I'm laying in the bed
with the lights on, on my clothes on.
I'm not under the covers. I've not quote,
gone to bed to go to sleep.
And he's like 20 minutes through this next episode
and I wander out and I'm like, I thought you were coming to
- Bed.
. Yeah. And, and that was on me too,
because the, the episode I was watching
that I only had 15 minutes in, turned out it was the end
of the season ended on a cliffhanger.
Right. It's, and I had, I had to know, I had
to know what that happened. But
- That, the thing is, is that's fine.
I never clearly stated, Hey daddy, I wanna go to bed early.
Can I go to bed? Can I have permission?
You thought you were giving me permission,
but you never clearly stated, stated it.
You have permission to go to bed. Just do what you gotta do.
Yeah. . So you're happily watching your show.
I am in laying down with lights on having a,
a small little like moment of feeling really pitiful
for myself at, you know, getting a little overstimulated.
Clothes felt too tight. MCC collar felt too tight.
That was the other thing. Macau wasn't off.
So I certainly wasn't going back.
like when all this is 10 years in y'all,
all I needed to do was walk out in the living room
and go, daddy, I would like to go to bed now.
Can you pause and can we do the thing? Mm-Hmm.
and I would've been in bed and snuggled up
and feeling no pain.
And we like, that was such the dumbest long-winded way
to say that anybody who looks at us
and is like, I want what they have, they do it so well.
Whatever it may be. First of all, not always.
And second of all, we're 10 years in
and we're still figuring shit out.
We all start by being bad at shit . We
- Just, - You like,
every once in a while you can be naturally good at
something, but when you first start with
that thing you're naturally good at,
you're still worse than you'll be
in a, you know, a couple years.
Yeah. You're still gonna improve from there. So like, yeah.
- Yeah. Mm-Hmm. . - I do
not mean to go on rants. I'm not mad at anybody.
- No, - This seems appropriate.
I, um, I don't know what the final podcast title will say,
but on the little script,
so I remember the things I wanna say.
I just wrote Pure randomness, .
That feels appropriate. That that feels appropriate.
- But see time from talking about tools and, and,
and growth we segued into,
- We managed to still make this about kink.
Yeah. I don't know. I feel like if we're talking about
making kink toys, it's automatically about kink, but
- Yeah.
- Um, so what, so we're time traveling.
By the time you can hear this
Thanksgiving here in the US Mm-Hmm.
will be over. Um,
the oldest is coming home Wednesday night
and then going back Thursday, I think afternoon. Um,
- We're still unclear about that,
- But Well that's
because they have mandatory marching band practice.
Yeah. On fucking Thanksgiving. What the fuck? I know.
I know, I know. College is different than blah, blah, blah.
Yeah. But the fucking school is closed ,
so I just don't think they should have to have practice.
Um, apparently they had to cancel several practices
'cause of like weather or whatever.
And so the makeup ones are quote, mandatory.
We shall see , uh,
the oldest has never shied away from, uh, not doing
what somebody demanded of him.
. So we'll see.
Um, the youngest, uh,
has started his online virtual schooling, which is part
of homeschooling because I was happy to make him,
let him be a homeschool student.
But I am not a homeschool teacher. .
That is not in my wheelhouse,
nor is that a skill I want to gain.
No, thank you. Um,
so he has started slowly starting those online courses.
It's, we came at a weird time because literally the Friday
before Thanksgiving break.
Thanksgiving, yeah. When the teachers who are part
of the online course were about to take a week off.
Right. We were doing like the welcome calls
and stuff you have to do.
And so he's starting up with that.
My mom will be here for a week. Mm-Hmm.
the Sunday after this episode goes live.
And she'll stay for a solid week.
And we're in our busy season and need to make product.
But also, this is my chance, my last chance in 2023
to be able to spend time with my mom.
Right. Because we probably won't see her until spring
of 2024 after this .
So it's like, well, that'll be a balance .
Um, but yeah, I mean we're just,
right now our big focus in life is just on Black Friday.
Because if you know anything about retail, you know
that most retailers online
or in person, the, the last quarter
of the year, the holidays make a break.
This is time to make or break. Break. Yep.
Break we will make, based on my, based on history
and my projections, we will easily make 30 to 40%
of our overall sales
in the last like eight weeks of the year.
Yep. .
And we are now at like, what, six weeks of the year left.
Um, so it's like, it's time to fucking hustle . Yep.
This is the time to get shit done. Mm-Hmm. .
Um, which is exciting and great and I, I love it.
And I look, I came from a retail family.
Like my mom worked retail my entire adult life in
management, um, for I think all of it.
And it's hell on wheels.
My first like six
or seven years as a working adult
was in retail of some sort.
And I thought when I finally got away from re
and I did management at the end, uh,
I thought when I got away from that,
I would never fucking go back to it.
I hated it. I what I hate. Here
- You are - .
You know what, 'cause what I know it might not make sense
to everybody, but yes, I'm sitting this
of also I have control issues.
We fucking controlled this.
There's no corporate making decisions
as if they've never stepped in a fucking store before.
That is true. Holy shit. Yeah.
Uh, we get, we get to be really flexible.
Is a product not doing well? We just fucking shelve.
It is a product doing really well.
Let's make like 10 times the amount.
Um, how creative do we wanna be?
What, what are people asking for? What new fun thing?
Like, I fucking love this,
but you know what, I also was the type
of person back in the day who was like,
I can't talk to crowds of people.
I can't talk to people. I
can't, I don't know how to educate.
I don't know how to inform. And also we've had a podcast
since 2015 that no matter
how burnt out I get on other things I do Mm-Hmm.
like the, the podcast.
Like if we are not doing a podcast on a
Wednesday, I'm like, what is our life? I don't,
- No.
See, I, I have to admit, there are times for me
with the podcast, I have a little bit
of a flow ebb and flow.
- I think I'm better now that we take regular breaks. Yeah.
Every quarter we're taking a week.
At the end of this year, we'll take two weeks. Mm-Hmm.
. Um, so I think that helps.
- Um, yes, it does. Yes.
Since we've been taking little breaks here
and there, that has been a tremendous help with that.
- And we've gotten more realistic about there are just
sometimes life gets in the way
and you just can't fucking record
or live stream or whatever.
Yeah. And instead of like forcing ourselves to do something
that ultimately is gonna like be worse,
we're gonna be worse off at the end.
We just go, you know what? Let's, we can't do it this week.
Right. The, the thing where I tend
to get burnout's too strong,
'cause I've, the podcast so far,
knock on wood has never burned me out.
But the part where I get a little closer to
that feeling is in trying to figure out
what the fuck to talk about.
We are on episode 375 of our long form Yeah.
Podcast episodes.
And then of course you've got all the short form ones we've
done sporadically over the years.
Mm-Hmm. . I know that one.
Not everybody listens to the whole archive,
so it's okay if you repeat a topic
and two, even if somebody did listen to an episode
that we did like eight years ago.
Mm-Hmm. , you probably don't
remember what we said.
So we could do it again. And yet I'm constantly going,
is there another fresh idea out there? And I don't know.
- Yeah. And, and yet you talk about, you know,
redoing an old topic.
Um, you know, that sometimes it's not a bad thing
because there again, too, what we talked about it
maybe five, six years ago, at this point,
we have a fresh take on it
because we've grown, we've changed,
we look at it through different lenses. I know,
- And I agree.
And we have done episodes specifically where we go,
we are revisiting this topic from this episode.
But I have gotten to a point
that if I can't pinpoint the fact that this is a, uh,
a, we're redoing this topic
and I need to let people know that I know
that we are repeating the topic .
And here's the original one we did.
Like my brain has decided that if I can't do that,
we can't talk about that topic again.
- Okay. - And I don't know why. Yeah.
375 of these things.
We could talk about a thing we talked about five years
ago and it would be okay.
It would either be fresh for some people
or we would just have a fresh take on it,
or a slightly even a subtle new take on it.
Mm-Hmm. But my perfectionistic brain is like, no.
If it is not a fresh topic,
if it's something you've never discussed
before, you're not allowed to do it
unless you can pinpoint exactly which episode you're like,
oh, it, I know.
I cause problems for myself. I get it. I know
- Who I'm - .
I'm like this with everything.
I get into a mode of,
I think this is how it is supposed to be.
Mm-Hmm. . And even though I have total control
over that, there's a part of me that goes,
but this is the way we do it.
Yeah. So we can never change the way we do it. .
I'm fun . Look, but I get shit done.
- True. - I get you. Do I find efficiencies.
I wanna streamline processes. Mm-Hmm.
, I wanna produce as much as I can.
I get shit done. But don't ask me to pivot
unless it was my idea.
And then I can pivot on
- Done .
- But if I need to just pivot
because somebody else suggested it, I will tell you all
of the reasons why that was impossible.
And the way I have carefully constructed this routine
and the way I do a thing can never fucking change.
- That's why I'm, I just plant,
I plant a seed and let it grow.
And she thinks it's her idea. And then away we go, oh God,
- You're really gonna go with .
I make her think things are her idea
that you're really gonna go there.
- It doesn't work all the time, but
- Sometimes.
And me with 10 million ideas every moment of
- Every day.
Yeah. I, I know. Come
- On Now - That, that brain in there is full
- And constantly moving.
Constantly moving.
No, the one thing I have gotten a little bit better about,
a little bit better about is it used to be if I had an idea
that sparked my interest, I had to act on it immediately.
Like it would be a physical pain if I did not. Yeah.
But then I would be unprepared and I would be overwhelmed
and I would be stressed and I would stop right in the middle
of it, even though it was an idea that I loved.
And I have slowly, painstakingly,
slowly gotten better at having the idea
and letting it percolate,
letting my mind kind of play with it.
Even if it's like subconsciously,
like I'm not consciously thinking about
how do I want to do this thing.
And for me, the moment my brain can show me the roadmap in
my head, like, this is the, the idea.
Here's how to implement the idea.
Once I have that roadmap in my head,
then I can go forth and do the thing.
Until then, we do not jump on things that are exciting.
I mean, unless there are people who we are excited
by then it better be consensual.
I don't jump on ideas the moment I have them,
when they excite me, I wait
until my brain gives me the roadmap.
And it's, and I say roadmap
and I mean that literally in my brain.
Mm-Hmm. . It looks like a path.
And I go, okay, we're starting here.
That's the first stone in the path.
And then I can see each one
and it's a visual thing in my brain.
And I go, I know how to get there.
I know how to do this idea.
And it's not always 'cause I sat down
and did, I mean, I probably did do a lot of research
'cause I was excited about it.
- No, that's the way you want's your na
that's your nature. Yeah. My
- New thing to focus on.
Mm-Hmm. . But I'll do the research
and then I'll have this moment
of I don't know how to make this happen.
And I, I'll panic a little bit
and then I'll go, whew, you got other shit to do.
Put this like on, on the back burner of your mind.
And then apparently my subconscious is just
doing shit .
And then there'll come a day that I'll go,
what happened to that idea I had?
And if the, the excitement still gets sparked, then
if again, if I get that roadmap visual in my brain Mm-Hmm.
, we get to start on it.
This podcast, was that the shop?
Was that Yeah, the Etsy shop.
Was that the new products that we add to the Etsy?
Like everything we do? Yeah. That's how I do it. Yep.
But I do have to like sit on my hands sometimes.
I go, you don't jump on that idea
until you're actually ready to do it.
And you actually have a roadmap. I'm fun.
No, nobody wants to spend any time in this brain of mine.
Okay. . Nobody. Okay.
We should probably start wrapping it up. Uh, let's
- Spend about an hour. Hour. I know.
- Wow. Let's finish it up
with Lola is the best good girl ever.
She is laying at my feet right now. Yep.
Uh, Ella and Onyx are good.
And also they're little shits, but that's why we like them.
Right. ,
- Each in their own way. Right.
- The kids are good. Mm-Hmm. .
As far as we know, , we're time traveling.
By the time you hear this, we're
who the fuck knows what's going on.
Um, we hope to have a peaceful, quiet,
uh, Thanksgiving.
Mm-Hmm. day and meal.
And then a raucous black fucking Friday. Yeah.
Through all of our shops. Yep.
The Kry and all of our Etsy shops.
And they will all be linked in the show notes.
Um, if you are American or in America
and you celebrate Thanksgiving,
'cause we have, uh, American friends who live overseas
and they celebrate Thanksgiving.
Yeah. as well.
If you celebrate, uh, Thanksgiving, uh, in November
as we do, uh, we hope you've had a good Thanksgiving.
Mm-Hmm. . Hey Canadian friends.
I know you had your Thanksgiving in October.
I hope it was a good Thanksgiving then too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, if you are not American
and do not have Thanksgiving, you don't have to.
It is basically a day where you have a good meal.
Uh, the traditional foods here, traditional is Turkey,
but we're having ham.
Um, and then the sides that you like the best
and you ideally you get together with the family. You like
- . Yeah. The,
- The not so great part of the tradition is getting together
with family you don't like
and you disagree with on everything.
We are having a peaceful life. Yeah.
It is just the four of us this year. . Mm-Hmm.
next week when my mom's in town,
we'll do a belated one with everybody.
Thankfully we get along with everybody.
- Yes, yes, yes. - So yeah.
Just like have a big meal with people you like. Mm-Hmm.
, you've celebrated Thanksgiving.
Talk about what you're thankful for.
- Ta-da. Right. I mean, a lot, a lot of people I've seen,
uh, now anymore maybe the last few years,
it's become more popular that, um, you know,
not everybody has, uh, blood family
- Or wants to be around - Or,
or wants to be around their blood family.
Um, case in point. Mm-Hmm.
- . Mm-Hmm. - . And, uh, they do,
uh, what they call now call Friendsgiving. Oh,
- Absolutely.
- Absolutely. You know, and, and they get together with,
with friends and, and that has become their family.
- And some people don't do the traditional meals.
They do whatever the fuck sounds good. Right.
And I don't know if I've seen this in terms of Friendsgiving
or just like friends getting together,
but there was one I saw online
where everybody brought like a dip that they liked
and then the, and I was like, I want a dip party.
I want all the dips , I want dessert dips,
I want savory dips.
I want all the, and all the chips to go in all the debt.
I'm here for this. Mm-Hmm.
there, there's just the two of us.
I would be a very small debt party.
It would, but I would, I would eat the shit out of that.
Um, I am a person who doesn't want Friendsgiving
and I don't want a big family Thanksgiving.
I wanna be in my house with no bra on, no makeup,
on my hair, looking a mess, eating food
that makes me fat and happy.
That is all I want. Mm-Hmm. . I want peace.
I wanna be in my house only with the few people
that I love the most.
. Yeah. That's all I need.
So we're getting that for this one. Mm-Hmm. .
So if you celebrate, we hope you had a, a good one. Yeah.
In whatever form it took.
If you don't celebrate, that's okay.
Uh, have you a big meal. Mm-Hmm. .
That makes you feel good and, you know,
spend time with people you care about.
There you go. Tomorrow you've done it. Mm-Hmm.
. Um, we're gonna like completely ignore the
air quote history of what Thanksgiving is supposed to be
because everybody was taught incorrectly in third grade.
So we just, we're just not gonna worry about that .
Um, and yeah, we're gonna go do our thing
and keep getting, we're time traveling.
We are still getting ready for Black Friday. Yeah.
When you hear this, you will be in the middle of it.
We will be in the middle of it.
Uh, so I don't know what it'll be, but we're gonna keep
getting ready and hopefully next
week we'll be back to normal.
Whatever that is for us. We don't Yeah. Normal's. Just
- Our, our normal is crazy.
- Yeah. , it's chaotic. - Um, ridiculousness. Yeah.
- . And so if you actually listen to this pure
randomness episode that was not informative or educational.
Thank you. We appreciate you.
- We appreciate you being here.
- Uh, and hopefully we will be back to, like I
- Said, air quote normal next week.
Yeah. Mm-Hmm, . Okay, we're gonna go. Okay.
Okay. So are we good? I don't know.
Keep, keep it kinky ky and we'll see.