1 00:00:10,860 --> 00:00:14,640 You are listening to the Loving B D S M podcast, episode 360 3 K. 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,440 The Lord's here with the one, the only, the, 3 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:19,880 are you quite caffeinated enough yet? John Brownstone? 4 00:00:21,410 --> 00:00:22,243 Maybe. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,680 I, I bought you a decaf. I was worried you'd be overly caffeinated. Well. 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,400 I mean, decaf still has some, some. 7 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:29,920 Yeah. But it's not full octane. 8 00:00:30,180 --> 00:00:32,880 And I've had two full octane already, so I know. That's why. 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,880 I got you a decaf. Yeah, thank you. We, 10 00:00:34,980 --> 00:00:39,680 we took advantage of Dunking offering bonus points for mobile orders on 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Wednesdays, in case you wondered . 12 00:00:42,140 --> 00:00:45,200 That's not at all what this episode is about, but there we are. . Uh, 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,200 this week we're back from break, celebrating our eighth podcast anniversary, 14 00:00:49,460 --> 00:00:53,600 and responding to your kinky hot takes and unpopular opinions shared over on 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Instagram. Welcome to the Loving B d Ss M podcast. 16 00:00:56,380 --> 00:00:58,480 If this is your first time listening, glad to have you. 17 00:00:58,580 --> 00:01:00,120 If you're back for another week, welcome back. 18 00:01:00,180 --> 00:01:03,520 Loving B d Ss M is produced every Friday for your kinky pleasure in education. 19 00:01:03,620 --> 00:01:05,960 And show notes are found@lovingbdsm.net. 20 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:09,440 Come back often and feel free to add the podcast to your favorite podcast app. 21 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:13,720 You can also follow the show on Twitter at loving b DSM on FetLife at loving 22 00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:18,440 BDSM PC on Instagram at that handle. I will forever fucking hate . 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,960 I also get to hate it over on threads too, at Loving DSS one. 24 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,400 That's the number one. So, at Loving DS one, 25 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:29,440 or on YouTube at youtube.com/loving bdsm, where you can watch us live, 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,560 stream the podcast every Wednesday. All links are in the show notes. Okay. 27 00:01:33,740 --> 00:01:37,840 Now that we're all here together, you can turn on the other magic button. I am. 28 00:01:37,980 --> 00:01:41,280 And turn the fan back on. We actually get Woo, 29 00:01:41,540 --> 00:01:45,680 the very unusual experience of not having to close the office Right. 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,720 While we do this, because there's nobody home in the middle of. 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,800 The day. Nobody home and, and nobody expected to be coming home. 32 00:01:50,850 --> 00:01:54,040 Right? Because, you know, the oldest actually has started, 33 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:56,640 has started his classes today. Day of recording. That's right. 34 00:01:56,660 --> 00:02:00,520 And his first class was at 7 25 this morning. Not by choice. 35 00:02:00,700 --> 00:02:05,560 That's not a choice he made . So, yeah. He's not coming home. 36 00:02:05,630 --> 00:02:09,240 He's in, he's at his Big boy school. Yep. Um, so we are gonna like, 37 00:02:11,450 --> 00:02:15,590 get into this Before we get into the hot takes and unpopular opinions, 38 00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:19,470 I have a major announcement, something that we did not do last year. 39 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:21,790 I can't remember why, but I think it's 'cause life was chaotic. 40 00:02:22,260 --> 00:02:25,670 It's chaotic this year, but I had enough time to sit down and think. And so, 41 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:27,710 , we made this happen. Look. 42 00:02:27,710 --> 00:02:28,543 At you, . 43 00:02:29,370 --> 00:02:33,590 You and I are gonna have a conversation already planned. Oh, 44 00:02:33,930 --> 00:02:34,990 be nice to me, please. And. 45 00:02:34,990 --> 00:02:35,823 Thank you. 46 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:39,070 She said Submissively. Uh, it technically on the, 47 00:02:39,150 --> 00:02:44,070 I believe 19th of August, it was officially our eighth podcast, 48 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:45,630 anniversary podcast. 49 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:46,260 Anniversary. 50 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:50,150 It's our PO anniversary. I don't know, . Um, and in years past, 51 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:54,150 we have done giveaways and, but then we skipped it last year. But this year, 52 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:57,470 we're back now. First of all, if you were like, I do not wanna hear you ramble. 53 00:02:57,650 --> 00:03:02,160 The, the u r l you want is loving bdsm.net/giveaway. 54 00:03:02,860 --> 00:03:06,600 Or you can click the link in the description box on YouTube or the show notes 55 00:03:06,740 --> 00:03:10,360 on, uh, for the podcast. Um, you'll get all the information there. 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,270 But we are going to go through this because I might have made it complicated 57 00:03:15,530 --> 00:03:18,550 in order to make it easier later. Um, , 58 00:03:18,810 --> 00:03:23,110 so we have a total of 10 prizes this year. Mm-hmm. 59 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:27,350 for a total of 10 winners. My goal was to have eight prizes. 60 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:32,590 So that one for each year of, we have been doing the podcast. Uh, 61 00:03:32,590 --> 00:03:36,750 and then folks who are super, super generous. So we have 10, um, 62 00:03:37,090 --> 00:03:40,670 the Ry, that's your shop, JB the ry.com. Uh, 63 00:03:40,690 --> 00:03:44,550 we are participating 'cause of course we are. It's us. It's, it's us . 64 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:47,710 We are giving away two prizes. One, 65 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:50,390 and now this is where things are gonna get weird. So, 66 00:03:51,010 --> 00:03:53,110 JB is supposed to get up and go behind the camera, 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,430 which podcast listeners cannot see to help, uh, focus, 68 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:59,990 focus in what? I'm gonna try and show the camera. Okay. 69 00:04:00,010 --> 00:04:04,390 But for podcast listeners who won't see it anyway, the pictures are on the, 70 00:04:04,970 --> 00:04:08,830 uh, website loving bdsm.net/giveaway. 71 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:10,430 And they're gonna be on social media. 72 00:04:10,530 --> 00:04:15,070 So you will be able to see it. Okay. 73 00:04:15,610 --> 00:04:19,550 So the first thing we're gonna talk about is a paddle that we're giving away 74 00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:21,790 from the kry. Do I need to be? Yes. 'cause I wanna show. 75 00:04:21,790 --> 00:04:23,230 This to the camera. Okay. You didn't signal me. 76 00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:26,750 I thought waving the paddle around was the signal, but apparently not. 77 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:29,030 We need more clear communication. Is that what you're saying? 78 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:31,230 That's what you're saying. Okay. Uh, 79 00:04:31,450 --> 00:04:34,030 I'm gonna get quiet 'cause I'm gonna be away from the microphone. Here we go. 80 00:04:35,410 --> 00:04:38,510 The paddle is what we call the enforcer. How would you describe this? 81 00:04:39,330 --> 00:04:42,670 Say the words. I'll repeat them. 'cause you're not next to a microphone now. 82 00:04:42,990 --> 00:04:43,690 . 83 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:48,230 Um, well, one, it's, it's, uh, tiger maple because it's got the tiger stripes. 84 00:04:48,470 --> 00:04:48,590 I. 85 00:04:48,590 --> 00:04:52,110 Thought it was curly maple. It's a li a very light colored wood. Like a creamy, 86 00:04:52,110 --> 00:04:55,670 beige colored wood. Mm-hmm. . The handle is off center. Yeah. 87 00:04:55,930 --> 00:05:00,190 So it's off to the side. Mm-hmm. . Um, it's a very thin paddle, 88 00:05:00,410 --> 00:05:02,870 so that means it's, and it's light. So it's lightweight. 89 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:04,950 It's gonna be smacky and stinging. Yes, it will be. 90 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:09,070 So if you are into stinging paddles, this is one you should try to, uh, 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,110 enter into win the giveaway. Mm-hmm. . Okay. 92 00:05:12,170 --> 00:05:16,710 The next thing is something that is technically not available at the Kre yet. 93 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:20,870 Neither is the enforcer. So you're getting, like, stuff you can't buy from us. 94 00:05:21,410 --> 00:05:22,243 Um, 95 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:27,150 we are gonna have wax play kits coming at the holidays with a knife, 96 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:31,510 wood knife. That is not available for sale on our shop. 97 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:33,070 And so it will only. 98 00:05:33,070 --> 00:05:33,990 Be available with the. 99 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:36,230 Kits. With the kits, exactly. Um, 100 00:05:36,570 --> 00:05:39,910 one paraffin and one soy wax candle. 101 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:41,990 And this special wooden knife. 102 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:44,790 I'm gonna try and get close to the camera Podcast listeners. Don't worry. 103 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:47,230 If you go to the U R L, you can see the picture, 104 00:05:48,250 --> 00:05:52,270 the wooden knife that I picked out of the group that you have made so far. 105 00:05:52,270 --> 00:05:55,390 Mm-hmm. is a made of winge. Am I saying that right? Correct. 106 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Winge, that's a very dark brown, almost black wood. 107 00:05:59,340 --> 00:06:03,680 And then the candles are our small three ounce. And I did dye free that way. 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,280 I didn't have to try and choose colors for anybody. 109 00:06:05,580 --> 00:06:09,120 And that way if you've got any allergies to dye, this would be safe for you. 110 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:14,400 So that will be another prize. You can win. Then, then, then, 111 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,880 then, then, then, um, us loving B D S M, uh, 112 00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:22,400 our Etsy shop, we have a giveaway. I only have a couple of things to show. 113 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,160 'cause some of what we're giving away is digital as well. Um, 114 00:06:26,740 --> 00:06:30,040 for the loving B D S M, we call it the merch gift pack. 115 00:06:30,460 --> 00:06:34,640 You will win all three of our current workbooks. 116 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:40,120 Um, both of our enamel pens and a sticker pack pens. Rest. 117 00:06:40,590 --> 00:06:45,120 Look, I'm Southern. It comes out one way pen. 118 00:06:45,550 --> 00:06:49,440 It's a pen. They're all pens. But if I add the word enamel, 119 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:53,320 most people know what I'm talking about. 120 00:06:53,660 --> 00:06:58,360 I'm gonna show these the camera right now. One of our pins says, keep it kinky, 121 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,120 y'all. 'cause that's like our tagline. And one is our actual logo, 122 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:03,200 and then the sticker pack. There's, 123 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:06,000 I'm not gonna like spend too much time on these, 124 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:08,320 but I call it our impact place sticker pack. 125 00:07:08,830 --> 00:07:13,360 It's stickers of paddles and crops and cute illustrations of spanked 126 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:16,920 booties. Oh my. Um, I know it's very fun. Um, 127 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:19,440 I'll try and show some of it to the camera. And again, 128 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,440 this is online and by the end of the day of recording, 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,080 it should be on social media too. Now that's us. That's what we're contributing. 130 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,800 And then we had two amazing companies that donated items 131 00:07:33,020 --> 00:07:33,853 for giveaway. 132 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:38,040 I'm gonna start with our longtime friend of the podcast. 133 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:42,320 Not that the other company is not also a longtime friend. Um, 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,160 and I'm gonna start with this particular longtime friend who I know is in the 135 00:07:45,190 --> 00:07:49,000 live chat on YouTube. Te you and his company elegantly owned, 136 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:54,720 he has generously donated three day collars and two locks. 137 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,840 So that's five prizes y'all. Five prizes. 138 00:07:58,540 --> 00:08:02,280 Now I'm gonna read what taste you kindly wrote for me, 139 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:05,200 because he knew I would be confused, 140 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,760 to tell you what this is like. 141 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:15,360 Um, okay. So we're gonna start. Hey daddy, 142 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:18,400 do you think you could hold this in front of the, 143 00:08:19,540 --> 00:08:23,200 the camera while I read? That's number one. 144 00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:27,760 It's dark blue. It's called a crushed Velvet style. Uh, 145 00:08:27,930 --> 00:08:30,680 heart pendant secrecy day collar, uh, 146 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,720 secrecy Collars are locking collars designed to blend into more conservative 147 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,160 situations when discretion is a priority. This is a perfect day collar. 148 00:08:38,190 --> 00:08:42,040 It's made with stainless steel with a resin heart on a nickel plated base. 149 00:08:42,430 --> 00:08:44,640 Just be aware of possible metal sensitivities. 150 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:48,160 It's 24 7 wearable and comes with two hex keys. 151 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:51,600 It is a 16 and a half inch day collar. 152 00:08:52,660 --> 00:08:54,880 Now the next one is called cloud style. 153 00:08:55,780 --> 00:08:58,800 It is the same style of color. 154 00:08:59,270 --> 00:09:03,840 It's just that the lock, uh, has a different bit of resin on it. 155 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:08,680 It's like a white greeny, bluey turquoisey color. 156 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:12,480 It's beautiful. And then the third color, again, 157 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,960 pictures are@lovingbdsm.net. Give oh away. Okay. 158 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:20,840 Then the third color I got a little fuzz on it is called the hover pendant. 159 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,400 And it has a beautiful purpley color to it. And it's a very unique pendant. 160 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,920 It is, is not a heart color lock. Um, 161 00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:33,000 this is the hover pendant secrecy, dayco, 162 00:09:33,460 --> 00:09:37,000 all stainless steel construction, including pendant with crystal center. 163 00:09:37,420 --> 00:09:38,960 As with all secrecy day collars, 164 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,480 it's designed to pass as a vanilla necklace while remaining secure and locked. 165 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:46,640 Um, it's also a good option for those with metal sensitivities. 166 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:52,040 So that is a prize. And then we have two, 167 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:57,320 what are called ocean flow style heart locks. These are just locks, not collars. 168 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:02,200 So if you already have a collar, you can add this. Um, 169 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 another thing that taste you is, 170 00:10:05,540 --> 00:10:09,840 has kindly done is you can, if you're like, okay, I want a collar, 171 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:13,560 but 16 and a half inches is not for me. That's too small, that's too big, 172 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:15,880 that's too whatever. Um, 173 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:20,600 you can currently save 15% off at elegantly owned on 174 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:25,200 Etsy, um, with the coupon code. 175 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,300 Crickets. 176 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:30,680 So if you want something that's more to your style or in a size that works for 177 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:33,920 you, you can, uh, take advantage of that, um, 178 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:36,560 through the giveaway and even a little beyond. 179 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,760 I believe the coupon code ends on September 6th. Okay? 180 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,880 They're two colors. They're both pinky purpley locks, locks. I said colors. 181 00:10:46,060 --> 00:10:48,840 I'm sorry. They're locks. They come with two keys. 182 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:52,240 This is resin on a nickel plated, heart-shaped lock, 183 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,680 24 7 wearable comes with two keys. 184 00:10:54,860 --> 00:10:57,560 But just be aware of possible metal sensitivities. 185 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:00,120 If you know that you can't handle nickel plated stuff, 186 00:11:00,230 --> 00:11:01,200 this might not be for you. 187 00:11:01,660 --> 00:11:04,640 And that's why I set these giveaways up the way I did. 188 00:11:05,500 --> 00:11:09,280 So that whatever type of prize you want, whether it's a collar or lock, 189 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:12,920 or it's a paddle from the kry, or it's a wax play kit, 190 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:15,680 you can actually enter the giveaways separately. 191 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:18,440 So you're only trying to win what you want. 192 00:11:18,820 --> 00:11:23,280 You can enter all of them, that is fine. Um, 193 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:27,880 but that way you're not potentially going to win something you did not want to 194 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,240 win in the first place. That would be no fun. Um, and then last but not least, 195 00:11:32,420 --> 00:11:36,800 we have products from Twisted Mountain Toys, 196 00:11:38,610 --> 00:11:42,160 which are so gorgeous. 197 00:11:42,820 --> 00:11:46,240 I'm gonna keep them in the plastic. I don't want us to touch them. This, 198 00:11:46,430 --> 00:11:51,400 there's a big green baby called the traffic cone. Oh gosh. 199 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:56,320 The traffic cone stretcher. It is a, I would say narrow tip, 200 00:11:56,420 --> 00:11:59,840 but, but that's in the eye of the beholder with a very wide base. 201 00:11:59,980 --> 00:12:01,800 If you know what a traffic cone looks like, 202 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:06,360 it's that and it's a beautiful emerald green. Then there's one called hyper, 203 00:12:06,530 --> 00:12:08,800 which is like a rosy pink. 204 00:12:09,740 --> 00:12:14,320 It is a perfectly cylindrical, straight up and down, no , 205 00:12:14,980 --> 00:12:16,560 no extra texture or anything. 206 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:20,160 The or beautiful hand poured silicone insertables. 207 00:12:20,180 --> 00:12:24,000 You insert 'em in the orifice of your choice. It almost matches my shirt. 208 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:25,680 It does almost match your shirt. Again, 209 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,560 the pictures are at loving bdsm.net/giveaway. 210 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:34,520 I will hopefully keep saying that until, make that easier for folks to remember. 211 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:39,560 Um, my job here. Done. Are we back in focus? Yes. Then yes. 212 00:12:39,730 --> 00:12:41,120 Thank you. Thank you. 213 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:45,680 My lovely assistant and Daddy Dom John Brownstone, um, 214 00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:49,640 podcast listeners. Let me just say, you can come watch this part of the video. 215 00:12:49,830 --> 00:12:54,240 I'll have, uh, time stamped it out for people to find easily, 216 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:55,920 hopefully. Um, 217 00:12:57,460 --> 00:13:00,000 or you can go on social media or you can go to loving 218 00:13:00,470 --> 00:13:04,200 bdsm.net/giveaway. How many times can I say this? So here are the things. 219 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:09,600 The giveaway is open to all. If you're located in North America, 220 00:13:10,460 --> 00:13:14,560 you, the uk, you, I said Europe, but if you're in the eu, 221 00:13:14,580 --> 00:13:18,280 if your country is in the eu, you can enter this, uh, 222 00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:20,160 New Zealand and Australia. 223 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,840 I tried to think of every country that I know people who listen or watch 224 00:13:26,260 --> 00:13:29,080 are located in and include them. Uh, 225 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:33,800 the giveaway is open through September 2nd. That's, I believe, 226 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,920 a Saturday or Sunday, 11:59 PM Eastern. Uh, 227 00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:43,600 the way we have it set up at loving bdsm.net/giveaway is you can enter in 228 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,400 separate giveaways. Like if you are not interested in a paddle, 229 00:13:47,540 --> 00:13:50,400 you don't have to enter that giveaway and be considered for that prize. 230 00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:54,560 If you are interested in all of them, yes, you can enter into all of them. 231 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:58,160 They all have requirements to earn entries. 232 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:04,800 If you do the things to earn entries on one giveaway and 233 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,480 it's repeated on another giveaway, 234 00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:09,720 you just have to click the button to say you already did it. 235 00:14:09,740 --> 00:14:13,400 If it's follow us on Twitter or like, or follow us on Instagram, 236 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 there's no way to do that more than once. So you did it once. 237 00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:19,400 It counts for all the other things you enter. Um, 238 00:14:21,020 --> 00:14:24,120 we will keep talking about, um, 239 00:14:25,620 --> 00:14:28,680 the giveaway, um, 240 00:14:29,950 --> 00:14:33,480 over the next couple of weeks. I was gonna say, how long will the giveaway run? 241 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,360 I just said that through September 2nd. Okay. I was busy meeting you. Were busy. 242 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,440 but's. Good to repeat these things, so it's fine. Thank you. 243 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:44,480 Now the day of recording August 23rd. Podcast listeners, 244 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,280 you will hear this on the 25th, but as the moment you're listening to this, 245 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,720 as soon as this episode comes out through September 2nd, uh, 246 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:56,560 2020 3, 11 50 9:00 PM Eastern, 247 00:14:57,180 --> 00:15:01,200 you can continue to enter. Um, there is, 248 00:15:03,980 --> 00:15:04,813 uh, 249 00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:10,240 one thing that you can do daily if you want, 250 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:15,240 which is you can share a favorite episode or video to earn entry points. Um, 251 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:21,360 please don't spam your online communities with our links 252 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,440 just to earn, uh, entry point entries into the giveaway. Please don't do that. 253 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,560 , please, please, 254 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,960 please don't make people mad at us before they even know who we are. . 255 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:36,560 Uh, so, um, yeah. 256 00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:41,720 So giveaway is at loving bdsm.net/giveaway. Uh, 257 00:15:41,740 --> 00:15:46,120 if you're interested in callers or locks from elegantly owned that are not part 258 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,040 of the giveaway, 259 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,960 please go check out Tissue's Etsy shop link in the places or search elegantly 260 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,640 owned on Etsy. Get 15% off with the coupon code. Crickets. 261 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:59,160 Put an S on the in there. That is good. Through September 6th. Um, 262 00:15:59,740 --> 00:16:04,240 if you like the look or, and are interested in, uh, hand poured, 263 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:09,040 any silicone insertable, anythings, uh, please check out Twisted Mountain Toys. 264 00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:12,160 They definitely do more than the two styles that we have for giveaway. 265 00:16:12,340 --> 00:16:14,120 And they do colors other than this, 266 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,800 that beautiful emerald green and that pretty dusty roses are beautiful colors. 267 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:22,480 So, um, and then loving B D S M Etsy shop, 268 00:16:22,770 --> 00:16:27,440 we're doing a podcast anniversary sale there. It's 20% off on our Etsy shop. 269 00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:31,680 Um, and you don't need a coupon for that. I was like, 270 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,000 I don't wanna keep up with that. So , 271 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,280 I just made the whole darn shop on sale. Um, so yeah, 272 00:16:37,750 --> 00:16:41,360 details about the giveaway are at loving bdsm.net/giveaway. 273 00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:45,040 That was the longest commercial . Yes. 274 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:49,560 That was so long. Um, okay, 275 00:16:53,410 --> 00:16:56,600 there we go. We hope, uh, y'all enter to win. We, um mm-hmm. 276 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,800 can't wait to give away. Great stuff. Um, 277 00:17:02,180 --> 00:17:06,200 we will be shipping them out. So the way it'll work is the, um, 278 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:08,000 when I say we'll be shipping out, letting you know, we, 279 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,720 they will be coming from us. They'll be mailed from us, from Florida in the us. 280 00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:13,070 Um, 281 00:17:13,070 --> 00:17:17,120 what was the other thing I was gonna say before it just flew out of my brain. 282 00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:19,440 Um, oh. 283 00:17:19,860 --> 00:17:24,760 So the giveaway ends at the end of September 2nd, 1150 9:00 PM 284 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,240 Eastern. Uh, within a week we'll do the random selection of winners. 285 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:33,800 Um, we will reach out to those people. They'll have 48 hours to respond. 286 00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:38,680 If we don't get a response, we'll have to draw again. So, 287 00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:41,560 we'll, yeah, we'll need a way to get in contact with you, 288 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,880 whether it's DMM through whatever your social media is or your email, like, 289 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:46,940 whatever. But yeah, 290 00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:50,920 we be watching those things so that you can know if you won or not, 291 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,513 because I, 292 00:17:54,610 --> 00:17:57,570 I have done giveaways in the past and then held onto the prizes for literal 293 00:17:57,570 --> 00:18:01,450 months, waiting for people to get ahold of, to get back in contact. Mm-hmm. 294 00:18:01,490 --> 00:18:03,530 . And I don't, I don't wanna play that game this time. . 295 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,370 Okay. That was a lot of fucking shit. 296 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:09,330 And now we can get into the actual episode. 297 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,513 Finally. 298 00:18:10,610 --> 00:18:13,810 I know, right? Um, so, uh, 299 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,700 my brain is, is empty and, and stuttering and has been. So I went, 300 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,620 um, I'm gonna let other people tell me what to talk about this way, 301 00:18:25,860 --> 00:18:29,820 . I was like, what's on y'all's mind? Um, 302 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,340 so over on Instagram at that handle, I fucking hate, uh, 303 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:40,580 I asked for y'all's kinky, B D S M D ss, however you wanna think of it. 304 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,140 Hot takes and unpopular opinions, and we're gonna read them. 305 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:47,180 We'll not say anybody's name to get, you know, 306 00:18:47,180 --> 00:18:49,020 make sure everybody has anonymity. Um, 307 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,300 and we will react slash respond to your kinky hot take or, uh, 308 00:18:54,410 --> 00:18:58,420 unpopular opinion. Uh, we may agree with you completely. We may not. 309 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,540 I read one that I went, well, 310 00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:06,180 that's a spicy take and I don't think I agree. So we'll get there. 311 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:10,620 I also have the benefit that I see these as they come in and j b's going in, 312 00:19:11,090 --> 00:19:14,220 like with no preconceived notions, you get, 313 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:18,660 this is gonna be your first reaction to everything. I enjoy that. 314 00:19:19,010 --> 00:19:20,140 Okay. . So. 315 00:19:20,540 --> 00:19:21,900 A little too much. I'd say here. 316 00:19:22,140 --> 00:19:23,580 Is the first one. Okay. 317 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:29,020 Hot take slash unpopular opinion that the communication needed and 318 00:19:29,070 --> 00:19:33,020 trust B D S M builds can improve your overall relationship health. 319 00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:36,500 Yeah, I agree with that completely. I, I. 320 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:37,373 I agree with that. 321 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,940 I wouldn't call that, I don't know. I'm like, is is that a hot take? 322 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:46,020 I'm sure there are some people who probably have compartmentalized in their 323 00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:48,940 mind mm-hmm. the B D S M kink side of a relationship, 324 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,780 and then the rest of their relationship. I'm, I'm not one of those people. 325 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,860 So to me it's like, well, yes, all these skills are transferable. 326 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,860 If you can learn how to communicate in a kink aspect and build that kind of 327 00:20:00,860 --> 00:20:04,900 trust, then I do think you have to be mindful. 328 00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:09,780 I think you have to be focusing on the other parts of your relationship. 329 00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:13,300 I don't think you can kind of, you know, go, oh, well we have, 330 00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:15,100 it's good over on the, our kinky side. 331 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:18,820 It doesn't matter for the rest of our relationship. I, 332 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:21,380 I think you do have to like, have some intentionality. 333 00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:24,460 With it. Oh, yeah. You, you can't just like, yeah, okay. Everything, you know, 334 00:20:24,460 --> 00:20:28,260 this is doing great here. Just let the other coast know you can't do that. 335 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,140 You know? But No, I, I agree with that. And I think it, 336 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,900 it not only covers relationships, I think it can, can also, uh, 337 00:20:36,170 --> 00:20:40,380 fall into, uh, in many cases, family, relationships, um, 338 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,673 and even work. 339 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:42,860 I think so too. 340 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:47,520 I think the skills that you can learn about communication and building trust 341 00:20:47,820 --> 00:20:52,160 and, you know, intimacy and vulnerability even are mm-hmm. , 342 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,720 those are all transferable skills at the height of the oldest's. Uh, 343 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,120 hardest teenage years, uh, known as middle school, . 344 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,473 . 345 00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:05,360 Um, so the 12 to 14 ish age range, 346 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:10,440 uh, we were at a loss for how to get through to him. 347 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:15,000 And it really did kind of go over into early high school years too. Yeah. 348 00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:18,240 And you, you and I were like, what are we gonna do? And I finally went, wait, 349 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,360 wait, wait. We know how to talk to one another. Empower Exchange, 350 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:24,200 and how to communicate really difficult things. Mm-hmm. , 351 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:29,760 why aren't we using different language, obviously? Well, yeah. , 352 00:21:29,940 --> 00:21:31,600 why aren't we just doing the same thing. 353 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:33,400 But using the same techniques? Right. Right. 354 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:37,440 And when we kind of made that shift, it, 355 00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:38,840 it didn't immediately get easier. 356 00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:43,680 The teenager was still a teenager and we had been trying to be super 357 00:21:43,790 --> 00:21:48,320 authoritarian with somebody who just doesn't respond to that. Yeah. Just, 358 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:51,640 just doesn't, that's his personality. And so he didn't trust it at first, 359 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,400 but over time, as we mm-hmm. 360 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,120 and we had to get more comfortable with it, 361 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,880 we were much more used to going, you have to do this 'cause I'm, I'm the parent, 362 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,200 you're the kid. This is what I tell you to do. 363 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:04,840 And it became collaborative in the way that our power exchange is collaborative. 364 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:08,600 We don't have the kind of power exchange where most of the time you go, 365 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,560 you do this. 'cause I said so in fuckery, yes, 366 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:17,120 in certain situations sometimes, but in general it's very collaborative. 367 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,640 It's very back and forth mm-hmm. . 368 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,360 And so we started taking those communication skills and applying it to parenting 369 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:26,920 and Correct. I think it's worked out well. 370 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,400 . Yes. . Yeah. 371 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,280 I think it's worked out well. So yes, 372 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,480 I absolutely agree with all the things that help you build a solid B D SS m 373 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,840 mm-hmm. relationship transfer into the rest of your, 374 00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:41,600 can transfer into the rest of your relationship. 375 00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:44,200 And then I think those skills are transferable. There. 376 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,590 You go. 377 00:22:44,590 --> 00:22:49,440 Okay. Next one. Ah, okay. Okay, here we go. 378 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:53,600 We, as in subs, we parenthetical subs. Mm-hmm. 379 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,640 are rejecting progressive politics and reclaiming 380 00:22:58,860 --> 00:23:00,160 our authentic values. 381 00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:04,960 I'm gonna let that marinate for you. 382 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:06,920 You want me to read it again so you can Okay. Yeah. Read it, 383 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720 read it one more time. We subs mm-hmm. 384 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,680 subs are rejecting progressive politics and reclaiming our 385 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,200 authentic values. Now, you know, 386 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,840 I've got thoughts, but I want, I want you to have the opportunity to react. So, 387 00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:23,173 so please. 388 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,673 . 389 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:35,960 Yeah. No, . I, 390 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,320 I don't think that's how it works. 391 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,280 I, and I think it's a problematic statement. Yeah. For multiple reasons. 392 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:44,000 It's a very, like, it's a simple, it's, it's a few words. 393 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:46,960 It's a very simple mm-hmm. , but a lot is packed in here. Yeah. 394 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,793 There is. 395 00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:52,600 So I feel like the subs being referenced here are assumed 396 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:57,520 to all be cis women because progressive politics mm-hmm. 397 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,720 in the way I think of progressive politics. 398 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,640 And if you're new around here in hadn't quite figured it out. 399 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,920 I do consider myself progressive, liberal, big D, 400 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Democrat. Like, however you need to think of that, that yeah. That uh, 401 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,800 progressive politics is kind of a, 402 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,400 like a sticky statement because what does that specifically mean to this person? 403 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,880 I mean, they might've, well just said the word woke in the, not the, 404 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:28,800 it's been taken over by people who want it to mean something. 405 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,040 It doesn't actually mean, but whatever. Yeah. Kind of way in. And I'm just, 406 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:37,000 and and authentic values. Whose authentic values? 407 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:42,000 No single, like, no, not even one specific group. 408 00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:45,280 All technically have the same exact values. 409 00:24:45,580 --> 00:24:49,440 We as individuals have our own individual set of values, 410 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:51,800 and sometimes they align with a group and there's a Venn diagram, 411 00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:53,720 and we might agree in some places. Mm-hmm. . 412 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:58,520 So I'm reading this as what this person is really saying is that women 413 00:24:58,690 --> 00:25:03,560 being submissive goes back to air quote traditional ways. Yeah. 414 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:06,920 Where we would like to make countries quote Great. Again. 415 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,480 And the question that has to be asked Great for who, uh, and I, 416 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,720 I fundamentally reject this, um, quite frankly, the, 417 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:20,720 the kink community in places where it is safe for folks to kind of come together 418 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,920 as community tends to be like, really, really, 419 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:29,320 what's the word I want? Oh God. The word just slipped. It's diverse. Yeah. 420 00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:33,120 It's all genders, not just the binary. Like, to me, 421 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:37,800 this sounds like the person rejects the fact that gender is a spectrum and not a 422 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,400 strict binary. Mm-hmm. , um, not always. 423 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,960 I have certainly met some like hardcore conservatives in the kink world, 424 00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:49,280 and I do question how you who could get fired, lose your children, 425 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:54,080 and be shunned by your family for being kinky. Who are you judging? The rest? 426 00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:57,120 But I'm just saying, um, , 427 00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:02,240 but like some of the most progressive spaces I per personally have ever been in 428 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,080 have been kink spaces. And so 429 00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:08,960 what No, 430 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,000 I fundamentally disagree because we're, this statement reads to me like, 431 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,200 well, 432 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,120 we're pretending that men who are submissive just don't exist or are somehow 433 00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:20,520 invalid. That neither is true. Um, 434 00:26:20,590 --> 00:26:24,760 that people who are not within the gender binary cannot be kinky. Mm-hmm. 435 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,000 and or submissive. We know that's not true. 436 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,160 If you look around for more than like half a second, 437 00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:34,080 you see that that's not true. Mm-hmm. . Um, and what are quote, 438 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,080 authentic values that reads like a dog whistle to me? Yeah. Like just, 439 00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:43,720 it it does, it, it re it's no mm-hmm. . No. That's a hot take. 440 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:44,920 I fundamentally. 441 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Disagree with. I I, I have to disagree with it too, 442 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,560 because it's so straight and narrow. 443 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:49,920 But there's only one way, you. 444 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,920 Know, there's only one way. 445 00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:53,880 That's a one true way kind of statement. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 446 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,600 All women are submissive. Only women can be submissive. 447 00:26:56,860 --> 00:27:00,560 And I would imagine they probably mean cis women. Right. Um, 448 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:03,600 all men then are dominant. There's no other way I. 449 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,000 That, that falls right into whole thing with, with on. 450 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:09,160 And I used to think that it was something that was outdated, 451 00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:14,240 but I I have seen it popping up in a few communities, um, that say, 452 00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:16,040 you know, switches aren't a real thing. 453 00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:17,760 Oh, Jesus. I know, I know. 454 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:18,640 You know, I hate. 455 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,520 That too. Yeah. 456 00:27:20,190 --> 00:27:24,080 It's because somebody has decided for themselves very narrowly what this means. 457 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:27,800 And the, the part that they're not saying or thinking is for myself, 458 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:29,880 I've decided what this means for myself mm-hmm. 459 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,000 and what they've done is gone. This is what this means. 460 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:35,880 And then they think it means for everybody. And there are, yeah. 461 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,760 There can be groups of people who call, 462 00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:41,160 who become a community who think that way too. We've seen it online. 463 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:45,960 It happens in person. Absolutly groupthink is a thing. Mm-hmm. , 464 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200 it happens to everybody. It is everybody, 465 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,800 regardless of where you are on a political spectrum or a human spectrum, 466 00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:56,920 can get into a bubble where you only are hearing things reflected back at 467 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,440 you that you agree and it, it, it can happen. 468 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:05,240 But if the things that you're only hearing negate the humanity of 469 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,200 somebody else, maybe that's not a great bubble. 470 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:12,280 And I don't particularly like that bubble, and I won't join it. Mm-hmm. 471 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,680 and I will try to pop that fucking bubble from the outside by 472 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,200 being a very annoying person. Yeah. Who keeps saying what you, you know mm-hmm. 473 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,680 the opposite of what some people think. Right. Um, . So 474 00:28:26,220 --> 00:28:27,053 yes. 475 00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:31,720 Subs are not in some massive group rejecting progressive politics. 476 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,160 I've become more progressive, quite fucking frankly, . Um, 477 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:40,080 and I don't even know what authentic value, whose authentic values. Yeah. 478 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,560 I mean, is, are, are, 479 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:45,320 can we just say we're upholding white supremacy and patriarchy here? 480 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840 Because those are the values that people tend to think of. They're like, 481 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,360 I wanna go back to when it was quote, great. And, you know, 482 00:28:52,790 --> 00:28:55,480 well, when women couldn't have a credit card, when, 483 00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:59,720 when black people had to sit at the back of a bus when it's not that it's 484 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 changed when you can be killed for your gender, your appearance, 485 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:07,800 your skin color, your like, and, and let's be clear, none of that's changed. 486 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:12,440 So for anybody who showed up at one point and did not think that this was, 487 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:17,160 that we were even slightly progressive. Sorry. You've been disabused of that. 488 00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:18,960 Sorry, we weren't louder. . 489 00:29:23,380 --> 00:29:25,800 I'm gonna get off of this one because I don't feel like I'm making a lot of 490 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,920 sense. I feel like the people who, uh, hear what I hear. 491 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:32,503 Yeah. 492 00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:35,440 I'm looking at the live chat and some of us are very much together on this one. 493 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Mm-hmm. . Yeah. This is a hot take I fundamentally disagree with. 494 00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:41,040 Okay. Next one. 495 00:29:42,410 --> 00:29:47,120 Kinks need to stop thinking that DSS relationships are inherently better than 496 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,320 vanilla relationships. Um, 497 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:55,280 like on their own. Yeah. No context. DSS is better than vanilla. 498 00:29:56,150 --> 00:29:58,400 Stop thinking that. What's your reaction? 499 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,880 I think there's a certain truth to that. I. 500 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,120 I agree with that. Um, not no relationship, 501 00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:05,680 no one relationship style is better than. 502 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,960 All better than, than than any other. Right. Um, you know, I 503 00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:16,880 Mm, yeah. I mean, I I have seen it that, you know, some people in kink, 504 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,560 they think, you know, oh, you know, this, this is the only way to do it. And, 505 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:25,640 and, you know, vanilla is wrong. And, and it's not. Neither one is right. 506 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,480 Neither one is wrong. They're, they're all good in their own way. Mm-hmm. 507 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,240 , and, you know, not everybody's gonna be into kink. 508 00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,320 Not everybody's gonna be into vanilla. So, you know. 509 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,880 I think it goes back to the, A person finds what is right for them, for them, 510 00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:43,640 and they stop saying the Yeah. For them part mm-hmm. , like, 511 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560 they don't say, DSS relationship is right for me. They go, 512 00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:51,680 DSS relationship is right. Everything else is then wrong for you. Like for me, 513 00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:53,640 that is pretty accurate. 514 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,360 I know that we talk good game about how if something were to happen and the 515 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,800 power exchange went away, we're still in it. We, there's other things mm-hmm. 516 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,440 that bind us and connect us. Correct. But quite frankly, 517 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:09,600 if you're asking me right now, and , 518 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:11,640 the year of our Lord 2023, 519 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:15,320 I'm gonna tell you DSS is the only kind of relationship style I want. Correct. 520 00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:18,480 It is what is right for me. Yeah. But what happens, again, 521 00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:20,880 people realize a truth for themselves. 522 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:25,800 And then not all people forget that that truth is not a truth for everybody 523 00:31:25,870 --> 00:31:29,920 else. Mm-hmm. , vanilla relationships can, and it's goes back to, 524 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,000 it's like when I talk about things that power exchange relationships, quote, 525 00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:36,680 need or ought to do, or these are best practices or whatever, 526 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,800 and somebody will always come kind of outta the woodwork and go, 527 00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:41,920 those are right for, those are good for vanilla relationships too. You're right. 528 00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:43,320 You're right. I agree. 529 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,160 I think that more vanilla relationships should have the communication style that 530 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,720 we try to practice and try to learn in kink, absa, fucking lly. 531 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,600 I think all relationships are better when the communication is clear and open 532 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,720 and the boundaries are strong and stated. Yeah. 533 00:31:58,020 --> 00:32:01,560 And when we're trying to negotiate who does what and how do we do it, 534 00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:03,680 Absa fucking lly. Mm-hmm. . 535 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,440 But just because there are those of us in kink who have gained those skills and 536 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,860 who, 537 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:13,760 who live and abide by those skills and so have hopefully better 538 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,600 relationship outcomes, 539 00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:18,400 does not mean that vanilla is somehow immediately wrong for not doing it. Right. 540 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,920 'cause let's be real, 541 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,920 there are plenty of kinky relationships that don't do best practices like they 542 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,320 should either. 543 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Exactly. And, and, you know, 544 00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:28,480 you can say what you want about vanilla relationships or non, you know, um, 545 00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:31,960 no, I'm, anyway, they, 546 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,240 a lot of relationships 547 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:40,520 use those communications and different Right. They just. 548 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,840 Don't have the language that we Right. They don't have, they don't call it what. 549 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000 We call it. They don't call it what we call it. Right. Yeah. Right. So, 550 00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:50,360 you know, yeah. I I think there, there is a little bit of, um, 551 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:53,840 um, gatekeeping in that aspect mm-hmm. , um, 552 00:32:54,790 --> 00:32:59,000 I've kind of been guilty of it here and there mm-hmm. , um, 553 00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:03,280 I'm not exempt from it. Sure. Um, you know, I, I think it's, 554 00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:08,280 it's something I've noticed a little bit more in 555 00:33:08,660 --> 00:33:12,920 how people, uh, reflect and respond mm-hmm. about it. 556 00:33:13,540 --> 00:33:17,280 And, um, yeah. I I don't think it's a, a good thing, you know? 557 00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:21,240 No. It, it pits an, it's an us versus them. It, 558 00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:23,160 when you have a way of thinking that says, 559 00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:26,200 this way that I'm in is better than mm-hmm. others, 560 00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:30,480 and you don't add the for me to it. You, even if you don't mean to, 561 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,400 you're in a one true way kind of thinking. Mm-hmm. , it's all, 562 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:37,240 as long as, you know, it's all potentially valid. 563 00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:41,360 Are there things about vanilla relationships that are not that great? 564 00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:44,800 Of course there are the lack of communication, the lack of just going, 565 00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:48,160 whose role is this gonna be? And I don't mean in a power exchange, 566 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,480 but who's gonna wash the dishes? Who's gonna clean the toilets? 567 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Who's gonna mm-hmm. Pay the bills? Who's like, the, 568 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,680 the things that don't get talked about in a majority of the vanilla re 569 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,080 relationships out there are to the detriment of vanilla relationships. 570 00:34:02,180 --> 00:34:06,000 But that does not mean that vanilla relationships are automatically bad because 571 00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:10,440 they're not doing things that hopefully most, uh, 572 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:14,560 kinky relationships are doing. Um, so yeah, 573 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:19,440 I think it goes back to we find what works for us and we reject what we used to 574 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,560 do because we realize it no longer works for us, 575 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:24,920 but we forget that's an individual choice that does not apply to every single 576 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,080 solitary soul out there. Right. And there, because we know, we, 577 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,960 I think we all know intellectually that not everybody's kinky. 578 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,120 And for some people that is never gonna work for them. 579 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:35,920 So then the only thing they can have is a vanilla relationship if they're not 580 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,880 kinky. And so then therefore, 581 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:42,080 are you saying that they're doomed to have awful relationships because they're 582 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,800 vanilla? Of course not. Like that's, I. 583 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,480 Mean, that. 584 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,080 Doesn't even make sense. So, yeah. I. 585 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560 I I think that you, this is an, you have to look at, you know, 586 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:52,800 your relationship's, not my relationship, but your relationship's. Okay. 587 00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:53,920 Right. 588 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,753 kind of thing. 589 00:34:56,350 --> 00:34:59,840 Your flavor is not my flavor, but your flavor is. 590 00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:01,240 Okay. Yeah. . 591 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:06,360 And it kind of boggles my mind how those principles are. 592 00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:09,200 It goes back to what we said about communication skills. Mm-hmm. , 593 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,680 they're all transferrable. Right. Right. The, your kink is not my kink, blah, 594 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,000 blah, blah. That's a transferrable thing. And that applies to like, everything. 595 00:35:16,090 --> 00:35:17,920 Again, my personal line is, 596 00:35:18,020 --> 00:35:21,960 are you invalidating the humanity of others and or causing physical, mental, 597 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,240 emotional harm or damage to individuals or communities? Okay. 598 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:30,160 Then shut the fuck up with those opinions. But if we're talking about, I, 599 00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:34,520 I'm happy in my non kink relationship mm-hmm. , 600 00:35:34,820 --> 00:35:39,040 and you are happy in your kink relationship. Like, 601 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,240 just leave people alone. Let them let them be non kinky. Yeah. Like, just, 602 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,400 just let them, let them be non kinky . So Yeah. 603 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:48,640 That sters need to stop thinking Ds relationships are inherently better than 604 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,360 vanilla relationships is an opinion we agree with. Right. Okay. Here's one, 605 00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,000 and I, uh. 606 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:55,973 Oh. 607 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,760 I think it, okay. 608 00:35:58,710 --> 00:36:02,840 Calling a dynamic master slave is weird to me, 609 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:07,600 given what those words historically refer to i e 610 00:36:07,830 --> 00:36:11,440 slavery. Yeah. I don't disagree. 611 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,200 With that. No, I don't either. I think that. 612 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,920 If people take those titles and they, 613 00:36:15,150 --> 00:36:18,120 they work through that with themselves and their mm-hmm. 614 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040 deities and their partners and their communities, 615 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,000 and they think about, like, 616 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,280 I'm not here to tell people they can't use those words, 617 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:29,200 but as somebody who does not use those words Yes, I agree with that. . 618 00:36:29,660 --> 00:36:33,480 It does feel it's hard for me. Yeah. 619 00:36:33,580 --> 00:36:34,920 It is hard for me personally. 620 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,520 I, and, and I I agree. And, and yet for me, 621 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:43,480 it's something that I have been so familiarized with 622 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:47,320 Sure. In a sense, through, through the years I've been in the community mm-hmm. 623 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,360 . Um, and you know, I, 624 00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:54,520 I've heard several people, um, 625 00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:59,240 you know, use, um, 626 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,720 alternatives. Mm. But even the alternatives still have that Sure. That thing, 627 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:07,120 the. 628 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,320 Connotation exists. 629 00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:11,280 Yeah. The, the connotation still exists. 630 00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:17,080 So, you know, is, is it one of those things that, 631 00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:24,680 you know, okay, this particular aspect of the lifestyle does not fit you. 632 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:26,240 And I think it's. 633 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:30,880 Always that. Yeah. Yeah. I think if, if a, if a term weirds you out mm-hmm. 634 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,120 , that that is, um, 635 00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:36,360 definitely a clear sign that is not a term for you that does not fit you. 636 00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:40,800 How many people get weirded out over daddy, dom, mommy dom, 637 00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:43,280 little baby girl baby? Like, 638 00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:48,800 because kink plays on the fringes of what is 639 00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:52,480 acceptable. Yeah. It doesn't have to be, quote, an edge kink, 640 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,720 which that's a debatable thing to define anyway. Mm-hmm. 641 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,280 for it to be taboo. All of it is taboo to some extent. 642 00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:03,040 Some things have become more normalized in recent years. Uh, see, 643 00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:07,680 choking for one, how that's normalized , I don't know. Just, you know. 644 00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:09,503 Okay. 645 00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:14,360 And so we using certain words and con the connotations of those words mm-hmm. 646 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,480 and how they can make people feel. 647 00:38:15,980 --> 00:38:20,670 And sometimes that feeling that people have is icky. I get it. It's, 648 00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:24,270 I think it goes back to these things have always been taboo for, 649 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:27,830 and I'm not a historian and I'm not a good person, cultural, blah, blah, blah. 650 00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:32,270 I can't discuss like why that's taboo. I'm not educated enough of that. Mm-hmm. 651 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:34,430 other than like the obvious things, right. 652 00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:38,400 Like the daddy and the little, and the, and the master and the slave. 653 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200 Like those, I think those are clear to why those would be taboo. 654 00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:43,040 But everything we do in kink, 655 00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:47,720 to some extent plays on the edges of what is acceptable by society. 656 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,920 I do think that there, um, 657 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:53,320 is room for, 658 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,680 and I think people are having these conversations about the use of language and 659 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,120 what that means. And I think that it, 660 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:03,840 the things I've seen have come down to personal choice again. Mm-hmm. 661 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,000 , if those words are out bounds for you, 662 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,280 they're outta bounds for you. Yeah. 663 00:39:07,390 --> 00:39:11,560 It's not a way I would ever describe myself or at this point, 664 00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:16,550 you in our dynamic. So therefore we don't, but also we don't, 665 00:39:16,810 --> 00:39:18,110 and I don't think this person is either, 666 00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:21,270 I think they're just sort of saying a thing. Right. 'cause they even said the, 667 00:39:21,330 --> 00:39:22,350 to me, kind of that, 668 00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:24,790 that part that gets left out of a lot of these kinds of statements, 669 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:26,790 they said it, it's a personal thing. 670 00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:28,590 So for some people it's not gonna bother 'em. 671 00:39:29,490 --> 00:39:31,790 And for some people it's definitely gonna bother them. Mm-hmm. , 672 00:39:32,190 --> 00:39:35,030 I think that if, um, 673 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,070 there are communities primarily of black people, 674 00:39:39,090 --> 00:39:43,630 but people of color having conversations about this language and the use and how 675 00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:46,310 they feel, I think that's definitely worth paying attention to. Yes. 676 00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:49,270 And listening to, uh, as white people, 677 00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:54,430 we will not ever interject ourselves into that conversation ever, 678 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:58,550 ever, ever. Um, but I, it goes back to, okay, 679 00:39:58,550 --> 00:40:02,070 if it gives you an ick feeling that that tells you it is, it is not a, 680 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,350 it's not the one for you don't use it. Um, 681 00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:08,550 I think as long as we don't kind of go around trying to police what other people 682 00:40:08,570 --> 00:40:09,290 are doing, 683 00:40:09,290 --> 00:40:13,270 but I do think there are valid conversations to be had about the history of 684 00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:17,270 words and why these words might, are they, could they be problematic? 685 00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:18,550 I don't know. I'm not, 686 00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:22,550 I'm not the right person to have to have much to say about that. 687 00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:25,710 But I think in the places where those conversations might be happening, 688 00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:28,750 they're certainly worth paying attention to and thinking about it and then 689 00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:32,990 making that personal decision for yourself, you know? Yeah. So, 690 00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:36,510 yeah. That's, I get it. I get it. Mm-hmm. , but when I have that, 691 00:40:36,510 --> 00:40:39,830 Ooh, that's, that's too, uh, for me, that just means, okay, that's not, 692 00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:42,870 that's not my jam. I won't, I won't use that. That won't, 693 00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:44,830 that one won't apply to me. Now. 694 00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:47,790 Here's, here's an interesting thought, and I, I hope I, 695 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:49,230 I expressed this correctly. 696 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:54,670 Do you think there are people that use those terms to, um, 697 00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:57,630 try and take the power out of 'em? 698 00:40:57,870 --> 00:41:02,790 Probably. Probably. I, I have no doubt that the, that, that exists. I, 699 00:41:03,010 --> 00:41:06,660 you know, I would not even doubt that for a second. Um, 700 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,260 I'd know, was it, was it Molina Williams? 701 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:13,860 I read an essay by her in one of our kink books, 702 00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:15,100 and I don't remember which kink book, 703 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:19,260 but she wrote an essay about the power of those words, master Slave. 704 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,260 And I believe Molina is, I don't, she might be a switch, 705 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,300 but I know that she, you know, 706 00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:32,060 submits to at least certain partners mm-hmm. . Um, and there was, 707 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,000 oh, can I find it? Hold on a second. I know I read it. 708 00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:43,600 Oh, I can't find the book. No. Mm-hmm. 709 00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:45,400 No, I cannot. 710 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:50,360 I had a book and there were essays in it with personal kink experiences 711 00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:54,640 and that that was something that she talked about. Okay. Yeah. Um, 712 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,540 so yeah, 713 00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:06,740 come on, Pete. Thank you. Rah rah. Molina's submissive to her husband. Okay. 714 00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:09,620 I couldn't, I, she's an educator. She, 715 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,380 my might do performance stuff writer, 716 00:42:14,650 --> 00:42:17,860 like she does a lot of things and I can't. Okay. Yeah. 717 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,260 And rah rah is saying in the live chat, Molina loves race play, 718 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,500 and that's something that she talks about. And that, 719 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,500 that's one of those instances where like in that essay, 720 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:30,260 if I could find the fucking book it's in, um, that's worth paying attention to. 721 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,660 And like digesting that information and going, okay, 722 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:36,380 that informs how I see these things, or, you know, 723 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:39,820 what I think about them and how I feel. But, you know, that's, 724 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,980 that's kind of the, the space for me. I feel like that that's my lane , 725 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,020 that's my, that's my personal lane. Are your batteries charged? 726 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,060 But I do think that the general rule, 727 00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:54,860 regardless of the titles or the labels or the words, is if they, 728 00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:56,300 they give you a weird feeling, 729 00:42:56,610 --> 00:42:58,380 then that just definitely means they're not for you. 730 00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:00,540 I do think it's worth investigating. Mm-hmm. . 731 00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:04,500 But I think that the thing to remember, and I know people talk about this, 732 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,980 we don't talk about it enough. We are very much in the, 733 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,540 the practice of normalizing within the king community power exchange, 734 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,900 but is a reminder that all of this is considered taboo somewhere 735 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,580 to someone in, right. And we play on the edges of what's air quote this word, 736 00:43:19,850 --> 00:43:21,700 like heavy air quotes acceptable. 737 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,260 So that is also something too to think about. Okay. 738 00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:28,243 Next one. 739 00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:34,020 It's difficult being a high protocol person in a mostly swinger 740 00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:39,140 open poly kink scene. , I would imagine that's very true. . Yeah. 741 00:43:40,570 --> 00:43:41,403 Yeah. 742 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,820 If you are in a community or a scene where it's like very much a more 743 00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:50,980 relaxed, let's chat and talk, let's like figure out, you know, oh, 744 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,820 I'm in mm-hmm. , and you yourself were like, okay, 745 00:43:53,860 --> 00:43:57,180 I have very specific rules. I follow . Yep. 746 00:43:57,890 --> 00:44:01,580 They govern my actions mm-hmm. Through all this. I can imagine. 747 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,340 Big challenge, especi high challenge protocol. Yeah. 748 00:44:03,370 --> 00:44:04,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 749 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,220 And really high protocol is in the eye of the beholder. 750 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,660 One person's high protocol could be another person's loosey goosey. Right. Like, 751 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:13,940 could not imagine living. That's, that's very true. That relaxed of a life. 752 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,780 Mm-hmm. . But, um, but yeah. 753 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:20,420 High protocol tends to have a lot of rules that govern how 754 00:44:20,730 --> 00:44:24,860 both partners, but in general, definitely the submissive behaves. Absolutely. 755 00:44:24,860 --> 00:44:27,220 How they carry themselves, where they look, who they talk to. 756 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,140 Who they talk to in. 757 00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:30,300 Many cases, how they speak when they speak. Mm-hmm. , 758 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,960 what they do when they do it. Gaining permission. Like there's, 759 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,080 there's usually a lot, a lot, a lot that can go into high protocol. Right. 760 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,680 Right. And in a very relaxed kind of scene community, 761 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,880 I can imagine that being difficult. I can imagine that being difficult. Mm-hmm. 762 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,840 , I can. 763 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,033 I can. 764 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:49,560 Yeah. Mm-hmm. . 765 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,393 Mm-hmm. . 766 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,400 . I. 767 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Can't, I don't have much to add to that, but. 768 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,680 Yeah. No, no. But I, I can, I can kind of feel the, uh. 769 00:44:57,060 --> 00:44:57,920 And you know, I think, 770 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,640 I think it's good to the extent that it is when it is healthy for a person to do 771 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,960 and it is not like detrimental to them, 772 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,880 I think it's good and okay to find yourself in community spaces 773 00:45:10,350 --> 00:45:14,440 that are not a mirror of what you already do. Right? Mm-hmm. 774 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,760 like to be that really relaxed person and go into a situation 775 00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:21,720 where there's more structure, there's more rules, higher protocol, 776 00:45:21,950 --> 00:45:25,160 it's not a bad thing. Right. The opposite is not a bad thing. However, 777 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,880 I think because of what community can do for folks, 778 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,720 I think that it can be challenging if you feel like the, 779 00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:36,840 you know, the quote ugly, not, I don't, don't mean ugly duckling, 780 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,920 but that sort of thing of wrong bird, the nest. Yeah. 781 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:41,320 And you don't look like anybody else. 782 00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:46,440 It's sometimes what we wanna be is around people who kind of get us and we don't 783 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,520 have to explain every single thing we're trying to do. Mm-hmm. . 784 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,480 And so if you find yourself like the odd duck out in the 785 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,560 community you have access to, it's probably worth looking. I, 786 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,000 I don't think you should reject that community. 787 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,040 'cause we can learn things from each other even when we have completely 788 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,160 different styles. Sure. But I think that there's value in finding mm-hmm. 789 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,440 your community of people who get you Yeah. 790 00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,640 So that you don't have to have a 10 minute, you know, 791 00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,400 speech planned about why you do these things. 792 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,400 Like the people in the room kind of get it. Yeah. That being said, 793 00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:23,080 and some of the best community spaces I've ever been in, people would, 794 00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:25,640 you could see, they might not understand, but it was, 795 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,400 they just accepted people for who they were. They went, oh, 796 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,040 that's the way you do it. Okay. And then mm-hmm. , you know, 797 00:46:31,390 --> 00:46:33,720 I've been fortunate enough not to be in places where, 798 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:37,160 because we did something different than other people that we weren't questioning 799 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:39,880 grilled and like practically interviewed about. 800 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,520 It. Like Yeah. 801 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,080 Yeah, yeah. Like having to justify ourselves. 802 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:44,600 If you find yourself in that situation, I don't care what the, 803 00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:46,960 the community's like, I don't think that's a good space for you. 804 00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:48,560 You shouldn't have to justify your. 805 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:51,120 Your That is true existence. That is. 806 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,640 True. I do think that if there can sometimes be like, not in this, 807 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,800 I don't think high protocol would be it, 808 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,040 but there can be situations where somebody on the outside doesn't understand and 809 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,480 they worry that something is harmful. 810 00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:02,613 Mm-hmm. . 811 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,560 I mean, there's, 812 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,120 there's conversation to be had about how to handle those situations, 813 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:12,160 but just because somebody's different from you, they shouldn't. You, we, like, 814 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,680 there's, if you're being alienated or feeling alienated from the group, 815 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,720 'cause you're like different from the rest of that group, that's a problem, 816 00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:24,240 you know? Yeah. So. Yep. But, okay, 817 00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:27,920 let me get back into it. Okay. Here we go. I think. 818 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:33,480 Okay. We've got a couple left. This one kink is not for everyone. 819 00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:38,480 Some folks don't need that much vulnerable access to people. I mean, 820 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,240 I agree completely. 821 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:39,940 I, I agree. Yeah. Kink. 822 00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:42,360 Is not for everyone. No. It's not just in general. Mm-hmm. , 823 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,233 I agree with that one completely. 824 00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:46,920 And, and not, you know, and, and you can ize that down. 825 00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:51,000 Not every aspect of kink is for everyone. You know, 826 00:47:51,250 --> 00:47:54,240 there um, is a 827 00:47:58,210 --> 00:48:00,960 train of thought that just because someone is in the lifestyle and they're 828 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,680 submissive, that makes them also a masochist. Right. You know, which is not, 829 00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:06,080 you can be sub you, 830 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:09,520 you could be submissive and not have a masochistic bone in your body and you. 831 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,353 Can be a masochistic. 832 00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:13,680 And, and not have a submissive bone in your body and not submit at all. Right? 833 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,040 Yeah. Yeah. You know, you're, you're there just for the, 834 00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:19,600 for the impact play and, and the, and the pain play. Mm-hmm. , 835 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,120 you know, so it, it, it is so varied again, you know, it's not. 836 00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:29,480 And you know, I think that I've seen this periodically, not a lot, 837 00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:31,880 and not recently, thank God, but there's mm-hmm. some, 838 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,240 there are those out there who will say publicly where the rest of us can see it. 839 00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:37,720 Um, well, everybody's a little bit kinky, 840 00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:42,350 but only if they define it that way. Like I, I mean, 841 00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:46,350 I could objectively look at what I think people do and go Well sure. 842 00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:49,150 Through my lens I might call that kinky and go, yeah. 843 00:48:49,150 --> 00:48:50,590 Everybody's a little bit kinky. Mm-hmm. like, 844 00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:53,030 I get to have inside thoughts and think what I want. Right. Right. 845 00:48:53,050 --> 00:48:57,030 But I don't get to apply that to everybody. If somebody's like, I am not kinky. 846 00:48:57,070 --> 00:49:00,350 I do not want to be kinky, then trying to tell people, 847 00:49:00,370 --> 00:49:03,030 but everybody's a little bit kinky that Right. 848 00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:06,390 That negates what somebody is telling you that's very dismissive. Mm-hmm. 849 00:49:06,430 --> 00:49:10,790 . And some people don't want, don't want to be and aren't. 850 00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:14,750 And you know, quite frankly, I wish some people just weren't, 851 00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:18,990 because some people are harmful. True. And they use mm-hmm. , they, 852 00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:23,910 they use kink as, they use the language of kink almost as a weapon. 853 00:49:23,980 --> 00:49:27,230 Like they know the right things to say to lure people in, 854 00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:30,590 and then they get them there and they get a, a modicum of trust. 855 00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:34,950 They appear to be, you know, sharing vulnerabilities and being intimate. 856 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:37,710 And then they use that to, to cause harm to others. 857 00:49:39,770 --> 00:49:43,470 And I don't have solutions on what we do for that other than to keep people 858 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,390 aware and educated. Mm-hmm. . But, you know, I do, 859 00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:49,270 I wish sometimes I had a magic wand where I could go, boop, 860 00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:52,790 you're not allowed to be kinky anymore. . Yes. I wish I did. 861 00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:55,223 I don't, 862 00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:05,150 but yeah. . And would I walk around with a, 863 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:10,030 a wand and go, boop, when I am, uh, applying my magic? Yes. 864 00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:13,110 Yes. I would, the boop is ne a necessary part of that. Will you. 865 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:14,230 Put you in charge of that? Nobody. 866 00:50:14,290 --> 00:50:18,670 Has put me in charge of shit , and maybe that's the problem. Okay. 867 00:50:18,990 --> 00:50:21,590 , could I sort it all out with a. 868 00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:23,510 Or maybe a good thing? I don't know. With. 869 00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:27,840 Five minutes to think and a big diet Coke, probably . Actually, 870 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,440 the way I have sorted out the world in the past is with one or two super close 871 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,960 friends, a big thing of queso that gets new. 872 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,280 One gets sent out every time it empties and a picture of margaritas. 873 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,320 I can solve the world problems with enough of that. 874 00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:43,080 Okay. Okay. Just. 875 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,720 Saying. But these days it's more of, 876 00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:47,200 can I get five minutes to myself and a diet coke? I, 877 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,960 I can come up with some solutions. . 878 00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:53,920 One of them is taking away kink privileges from the abusers. Thanks. . 879 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,960 I feel like that would be a net. Good. I dunno. But yeah. Okay. So here, 880 00:50:59,980 --> 00:51:02,280 so the thing about hot takes and unpopular opinions, 881 00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:06,000 you're gonna get into sticky topics as we already have. 882 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:10,920 I'm already like bracing myself for like the snide hate comment about our 883 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,440 liberal leaning politics. I'm sorry we weren't louder about it. Mm-hmm. 884 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,800 , we once did an entire episode about it, so . Um, anyway, 885 00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:21,133 but. 886 00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:22,880 Oh boy. So. 887 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,880 Think about hot takes and unpopular opinions. Oh gosh, here's our very last one. 888 00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:28,013 All right. 889 00:51:28,890 --> 00:51:32,600 Regression and little space shouldn't be sexualized. 890 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,430 That has been such a hot, a bone. 891 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,473 Contention. 892 00:51:41,590 --> 00:51:42,470 I know. Topic. 893 00:51:42,890 --> 00:51:46,150 And I, I don't live within this part of the community. No. 894 00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:49,670 I don't have a clear opinion one way or the other. 895 00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:53,830 I feel like the statement is a blanket statement. Mm-hmm. 896 00:51:53,830 --> 00:51:56,190 That's supposed to cover all people. Yeah. 897 00:51:56,190 --> 00:52:00,870 And I tend to push back from 898 00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:03,590 some, not all, like, let's go back to we have our personal line. 899 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,470 Let's not harm humanity here. Right. 900 00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:09,150 I tend to push back from blanket statements because I'm always thinking, 901 00:52:09,330 --> 00:52:14,230 but wait, I can absolutely see, envision somebody 902 00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:19,670 like I feel, I don't know. I don't know. I dunno. , 903 00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:23,150 I understand. I think the energy where this comes from, 904 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:27,550 because it goes back to what those people who are in the caregiver little 905 00:52:27,550 --> 00:52:29,750 dynamic are often accused of. Mm-hmm. , 906 00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:31,870 we're gonna try not to say that word, but you know, the word, 907 00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:34,590 it's affiliate word, you know the word I'm talking about. Mm-hmm. . 908 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:38,710 I mean, I, I I think it's one I I, 909 00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:41,030 I'd have to say it's one of those things, 910 00:52:42,050 --> 00:52:44,590 it is up to the individual to decide. 911 00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:46,243 And I. 912 00:52:46,570 --> 00:52:47,403 You know. 913 00:52:47,620 --> 00:52:50,550 Yeah, I know. It's, again, 914 00:52:50,570 --> 00:52:55,270 we go back to b d ss m like swims in 915 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:56,630 taboo. Mm-hmm. , 916 00:52:56,810 --> 00:53:00,550 it swims on the fringes of what is acceptable by society. 917 00:53:00,690 --> 00:53:05,470 And I don't know enough about any of this to feel like I have an 918 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:09,350 informed opinion. I understand the energy behind this mm-hmm. , 919 00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:12,590 and like that part of me that like says, you know, yeah. 920 00:53:12,590 --> 00:53:16,150 That certain thing is actually really bad. And yes, I, I, I, 921 00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:19,190 but I don't know because I can't speak, 922 00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:25,070 I can't speak from a place of having engaged in age, play, or regressed. 923 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:29,160 Yeah. You know, age. Yeah. The, I I. 924 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,640 I, I think it's one of those things that the people 925 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,080 involved have to consent. 926 00:53:40,380 --> 00:53:40,740 Yes. 927 00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:43,640 To. Um, you know, and. 928 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,760 I know I, the thing is, is there are a lot of things that kink sters play with, 929 00:53:49,820 --> 00:53:51,800 not all kink ster, nothing's universal. Mm-hmm. 930 00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:56,320 But there are things that occur in kink that without 931 00:53:57,620 --> 00:53:58,453 the 932 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,680 structure of everybody's a legal fucking adult. Mm-hmm. , 933 00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:08,440 consent, clear informed, 934 00:54:08,670 --> 00:54:13,360 ideally enthusiastic consent, um, trust, intimacy, 935 00:54:13,790 --> 00:54:17,520 integrity, you know? Right. All of the things, like, 936 00:54:17,970 --> 00:54:20,720 there are things that without those things, yes. What, 937 00:54:21,110 --> 00:54:25,040 what is happening is illegal . Like, but we play with consensual, not we, 938 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,240 but like we, the general we play with consensual non-consent mm-hmm. 939 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,440 . And to many an outsider. I, 940 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,000 I accidentally got into the comment section of that where it was, you know, 941 00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:40,280 people were blanket statementing that c n C 942 00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:45,040 as assault and violence and illegal. And it was like, but wait, the whole, 943 00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:49,240 the first word is consent. And yes. Can that be used for nefarious purposes? 944 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:50,000 We go back to, 945 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,680 I would like to remove kink powers from the people who abuse them. Sure, sure, 946 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,160 sure. Right? Mm-hmm. , um, is this within that same scope? 947 00:54:58,810 --> 00:55:00,880 Right? Like the part of me that kind of goes, 948 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,680 I accept there are many things in kink I will never understand nor take part in, 949 00:55:06,380 --> 00:55:11,200 but if the rules are legal, age, consent. Mm-hmm. , 950 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:15,000 communication, risk awareness, all of those things. 951 00:55:15,460 --> 00:55:19,800 If those are the, the things we say are the what matter, 952 00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:24,440 then I'm gonna say again, if something gives you an icky feeling, 953 00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:26,760 it is definitely not for you. And that's your, 954 00:55:27,140 --> 00:55:30,040 but do I as an outsider who does not engage in this, 955 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,640 get to swoop in and go you to this community who doesn't even this your 956 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,240 automatically wrong. I like. 957 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,680 I know, I know. 958 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,200 I don't think I do . I mean, it's based on my set of values. 959 00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:42,463 It's, 960 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,480 I I kind of look at it just like there are, 961 00:55:48,620 --> 00:55:52,800 are people with the mindset that if you engage in impact play, 962 00:55:54,430 --> 00:55:58,040 it's, it's a sexual thing. Mm-hmm. . Alright. And, 963 00:55:58,180 --> 00:56:01,840 and it's not that cut and dry. To some people it is, to some people it isn't. 964 00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:04,280 It's not. Right. Same thing with rope. There, 965 00:56:04,290 --> 00:56:07,960 there are people who want absolutely nothing to do 966 00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:13,520 with anything sexual. Just give the rope. Right. 967 00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:17,080 Okay. So, you know, it's, 968 00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:22,760 it's a matter of preference. It it's what you want, it's what you consent to. 969 00:56:23,450 --> 00:56:28,000 Right. In this case, you know, being in little Headspace, you know, 970 00:56:28,050 --> 00:56:31,920 going into a place where you feel and are behaving and kind of, you know, 971 00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:36,560 air quote this word. 'cause I understand reality. Yeah. Become a younger age, 972 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,040 a less than legal age. Mm-hmm. 973 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,520 one that does not negate your actual age. And two, some people, 974 00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:46,240 and this is just from observations from people talking about some people 975 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,760 absolutely cannot imagine anything sexual happening within that moment. 976 00:56:49,830 --> 00:56:52,720 That is right. That just doesn't work for them. It doesn't happen. Mm-hmm. 977 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,480 and other people can, and maybe do, 978 00:56:57,180 --> 00:56:59,200 and to me, again, 979 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,240 I go back to have we met the pillars of what constitutes the most 980 00:57:04,750 --> 00:57:09,280 risk aware and closest we can get to, to safe kink play mm-hmm. 981 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,400 that makes something that is already inherently taboo. 982 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,240 Yeah. Air quote this word. 'cause this is a sticky subject word. Okay. 983 00:57:18,010 --> 00:57:22,520 We've got clear, informed, enthusiastic consent. Everybody's legal, 984 00:57:22,610 --> 00:57:27,040 we're communicating, we're being honest. We are creating spaces of intimacy. 985 00:57:27,410 --> 00:57:30,240 We're respecting boundaries. We've, you know mm-hmm. , 986 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,800 we are aware of the potential risks. 987 00:57:31,820 --> 00:57:34,680 People can withdraw their consent at any point, or we, we got all that then, 988 00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:37,760 you know, what do you, and if I don't like it, I'm, 989 00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:41,480 I'm definitely not gonna do it. That's how that works. Um, but the thing is, 990 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:42,320 is from the outside, 991 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,040 looking into somebody who does not play with a kink or practice a certain 992 00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:49,280 dynamic or, you know, engage in certain behavior mm-hmm. , 993 00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:50,480 and I think people forget this. 994 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,440 Everything we do in kink from the outside looks like somebody's being 995 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,800 assaulted. You hit me with a paddle. Yeah. Outside of a kink scene. 996 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,520 And quite frankly, with an over, uh, zealous, uh, 997 00:58:01,580 --> 00:58:04,240 law enforcement system that's assault and battery, 998 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,920 I don't know if that's the legal term, 999 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,760 but basically I'm being hit with something mm-hmm. . 1000 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,120 And in another context, you're getting arrested for that. Right. Right. Um, 1001 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,160 tying somebody up with ropes certainly does look like kidnapping. Yeah. 1002 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,280 Which is hot for some of us . But on the outside looking in, 1003 00:58:19,460 --> 00:58:22,160 you're not supposed to do that. Right. Right. Um, 1004 00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:26,400 feeling in your, your head and your mind, 1005 00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:31,120 your body and whatever in your soul that you are a younger age with a caregiver 1006 00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:34,200 that you call daddy, mommy, whatever, whatever. Mm-hmm. , you know, 1007 00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:36,600 we know what that looks like from the outside. We understand. 1008 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,640 We're not saying it. I'd like to stuff YouTube channel. Yeah. . Yeah. 1009 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:43,360 But like, all of all consensual non-consent, 1010 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,800 we all know what that fucking looks like. Right. 1011 00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:47,280 Like from the outside with no context, 1012 00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:53,200 it all looks illegal and bad. . Yeah. 1013 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,600 I feel like context on the inside with, again, 1014 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,160 that scaffolding and that all that stuff, 1015 00:59:00,330 --> 00:59:05,160 those pillars being there, it's up to the adults involved. 1016 00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:08,840 Yeah. And I can personally go, no, don't like that. Mm-hmm. 1017 00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:13,360 And not then go, I don't like it. So you can't do it. Yeah. 1018 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,120 I can have really strong opinions about something. Mm-hmm. , 1019 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,800 I could, I don't, 1020 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,920 I don't know how I feel about that particular statement because I don't 1021 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,840 know enough. But if I apply all of my principles of kink, 1022 00:59:26,910 --> 00:59:31,440 then that's what I come up with. Which is, are we consenting, communicative, 1023 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,480 risk aware, legal adults? Yeah. I'm, I'm not gonna, that's not for me to say. 1024 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,360 I understand what something looks like from the outside. 1025 00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:40,640 It all looks bad from the outside. Mm-hmm. . 1026 00:59:41,380 --> 00:59:45,600 And I think some of us get more comfortable with kinks that 1027 00:59:46,830 --> 00:59:50,440 weirdly feel more air quote this acceptable. Well, 1028 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,200 it's acceptable within your bubble hitting somebody with a hard object. 1029 00:59:54,910 --> 00:59:57,600 It's acceptable in kink because we understand, 1030 00:59:57,630 --> 00:59:59,280 many of us understand impact play, 1031 00:59:59,380 --> 01:00:02,160 but if somebody on the outside looking in did not have that context, 1032 01:00:02,510 --> 01:00:06,160 they're sure shit gonna think that, uh, they need to call 9 1 1. Right. 1033 01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:11,240 So how is any of, I mean, I don't know. Yeah. I think it's sticky. It is. 1034 01:00:12,430 --> 01:00:16,880 It's sticky. Mm-hmm. . Um, so that's a place to end. 1035 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,200 . Um, 1036 01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:25,360 am I certain that we have pissed somebody off? Probably. Probably. Probably. 1037 01:00:25,420 --> 01:00:26,360 Mm-hmm. . Um, 1038 01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:32,080 we all get to have our opinions. The internet has allowed it, 1039 01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:34,440 made it so that we can share those opinions at any point. 1040 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,760 I do contend that some opinions and 1041 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,880 thoughts should be inside thoughts, but that's just me. Um, 1042 01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:47,720 just a reminder before somebody wants to like, go real hard on their keyboard, 1043 01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:50,600 us saying we do or don't like something, 1044 01:00:51,260 --> 01:00:54,080 or we are or are not okay with something, 1045 01:00:54,140 --> 01:00:57,080 is not us saying that you have to like, 1046 01:00:57,110 --> 01:00:59,520 have to agree or not allowed to disagree or Yeah. 1047 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,440 Everybody gets their own opinions. I, my value system and my opinions, 1048 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,160 I try to have, have them align as much as possible. Uh, , 1049 01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:14,160 but nuance exists. Exceptions to rules exist. Yeah. Um, I, 1050 01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:18,680 and some things I'm just not educated enough to feel like I can form a solid 1051 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,120 opinion on. And the thing about Hot Takes, 1052 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,600 I had to look this up 'cause I was like, 1053 01:01:23,020 --> 01:01:25,400 how is a hot take different from an unpopular opinion? 1054 01:01:25,580 --> 01:01:26,640 And they are technically different, 1055 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,200 even though sometimes people use that interchangeably. 1056 01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:33,160 Hot takes tend to be real quick off the cuff, not informed, 1057 01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:37,640 not nuanced opinions. You see a situation, man, you've got an opinion on it. 1058 01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:42,240 Everybody. I think everybody is capable of that. I know I'm capable of that, 1059 01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:47,040 but my brain goes, but there's nuance. I don't know. There's, like, 1060 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,760 I just, yeah. I'll have a hot take in my head. 1061 01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:53,600 And then the moment I wanna try and like, say it to share it with somebody, I, 1062 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,280 I immediately start thinking of what the exceptions to the role might be. 1063 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,800 , I'm fun. Um, , . 1064 01:02:02,220 --> 01:02:05,920 So, um, yeah. 1065 01:02:06,750 --> 01:02:08,400 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1066 01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:11,400 It's, ah, 1067 01:02:14,550 --> 01:02:17,280 it's fascinating to see what some people think. It's, um, 1068 01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:18,960 sometimes it's comforting to see that, 1069 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,440 that some people feel the same way you do. Um, 1070 01:02:24,070 --> 01:02:28,360 It's not the end of the world if our opinions don't align. Mm-hmm. 1071 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,880 . Um, I think, again, because opinions and thoughts, 1072 01:02:31,060 --> 01:02:34,040 and many of them ought to be, get to be inside thoughts. 1073 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,640 I think it's about how are we treating people? How are we showing up for people? 1074 01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:39,960 Yeah. How are we existing in our communities and, 1075 01:02:40,060 --> 01:02:41,960 and allowing other people to exist. 1076 01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:45,080 You wanna know when you're gonna get serious side eye and probably a bit of 1077 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,040 judgment for me, when you one true weigh it, when you go, 1078 01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:49,840 this is a thing that is true for me. Yeah. 1079 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,920 So I have now decided it is true for everybody and must be true for everybody, 1080 01:02:53,140 --> 01:02:57,560 and everything else is invalid. Okay. I'm, I'll just tell you I'm judging you. 1081 01:02:57,790 --> 01:03:01,160 Okay. I will admit, here's where my nuance comes in. I can't help myself. 1082 01:03:01,630 --> 01:03:03,760 There's probably lack of experience. 1083 01:03:03,890 --> 01:03:07,520 There might be more education and understanding and, 1084 01:03:07,660 --> 01:03:12,560 and use this word lightly exposure to like other people in communities and 1085 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,040 whatever, whatever. Yes. 1086 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,360 I think people can shift from a one true way is thinking and go, 1087 01:03:19,460 --> 01:03:23,200 oh wait, I'm seeing the bigger picture. I'm having more experiences. 1088 01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:25,560 I'm meeting people who are different from me. Mm-hmm. 1089 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,320 and understanding their validity. 1090 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,160 I don't think the people you're shitting on should have to be the one to 1091 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,960 educate, uh, you and get you to see them as valid. I'll take that on. Like, 1092 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,560 we're up here with a platform, two weirdos on the internet with microphones. 1093 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,240 Right. But I do think people can shift. 1094 01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:44,320 And so then I would retract my judgment if somebody shifted. 1095 01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:48,240 But those are the people I'm probably gonna like, judge the most. Yeah. And not, 1096 01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:51,200 and not keep my opinions to myself. 1097 01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:57,080 Also the abusers and assholes who wrap themselves in the trappings of kink so 1098 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,160 that they can take advantage of people. Got That's true. 1099 01:04:00,380 --> 01:04:03,120 Um, true. The rest. 1100 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:06,633 I probably just. 1101 01:04:08,270 --> 01:04:09,120 Keep in. 1102 01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:11,760 Inside thoughts. I, I think, I think the internet has, 1103 01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:16,040 has allowed us to forget that we absolutely can do inside thoughts, . 1104 01:04:16,180 --> 01:04:19,240 That's true. See, in my head, I'm, 1105 01:04:19,860 --> 01:04:22,920 I'm probably judgy and petty and bitchy as fuck. 1106 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,273 . 1107 01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:29,640 But when I try to, if I have to communicate those thoughts, 1108 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,600 then that other part of my brain that sees nothing but nuance kicks in and goes, 1109 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,440 wait, wait, wait, wait. There's something you don't know. 1110 01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:37,960 There's an element you're not seeing. There's a lack of information here. 1111 01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:42,760 You don't have the right experience. And so then Yeah. Yeah. The, the, 1112 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,600 I don't can't remember what they're called, but from, uh, inside out the, 1113 01:04:45,660 --> 01:04:48,040 the emotions in your head, that kind of Mm. 1114 01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:49,240 Yes, yes, yes. 1115 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,170 Yes. Yeah. Um, yeah. They're, they're kind of bitchy, 1116 01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:56,530 but I like them. So . It's okay. . 1117 01:04:57,530 --> 01:05:00,010 I do think there's one that just like, 1118 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,050 hits like a buzzer and, um, drowns out the, the, 1119 01:05:05,950 --> 01:05:09,490 the others and goes like, stop kind of thing. Like, oh, oh, there you go. 1120 01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:12,370 You're being a bitch again and hits the buzzer and gets ready to calm the fuck 1121 01:05:12,370 --> 01:05:13,203 down. Mm-hmm. . 1122 01:05:13,810 --> 01:05:16,850 . Yeah. Oh. 1123 01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:17,813 My god. 1124 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:18,780 . 1125 01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:23,760 So yeah. I technically, I think I had fun with this one. 1126 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:23,980 Yeah. 1127 01:05:23,980 --> 01:05:27,640 But also I'm a little stressed out because as the one who reads the comments and 1128 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,960 sometimes responds to them Yeah. When somebody wants to get pissed off, 1129 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,320 it'll be me that, so 1130 01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:42,760 Okay. This was chaotic as five. 1131 01:05:42,780 --> 01:05:43,613 It was, yeah. 1132 01:05:43,660 --> 01:05:46,960 Uh, I don't know if we helped informed, educated, 1133 01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:50,080 or entertained or none of the above today. Um, 1134 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,480 I don't know if we even made sense if the words coming out of our mouths we're 1135 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,840 structured in such a way that somebody else hearing them went. Yes. 1136 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,120 I understand what you're trying to say. I don't know. I don't know. Um, 1137 01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:04,560 thank you for sticking with us through the giant commercial that was, Hey, 1138 01:06:04,580 --> 01:06:06,720 we have a giveaway going on. . Just a reminder. 1139 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,240 Loving bdsm.net/giveaway is the place to be. There you go. 1140 01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:15,200 You can enter to win individually the different types of prizes you want. 1141 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,240 Mm-hmm. something from Twisted Mountain Toys, 1142 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,960 something from elegantly owned the stuff from us. Pick, 1143 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,560 pick which one? Enter all of them for all I care. I don't find . Um, 1144 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:31,080 , uh, yeah. I don't know what we'll be talking about next week, 1145 01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:32,053 but, uh, 1146 01:06:32,210 --> 01:06:37,000 we'll be back and at our for livestream folks at our normal time 1147 01:06:37,020 --> 01:06:38,560 as far as we know. Yeah. Um, 1148 01:06:38,660 --> 01:06:42,880 and I guess that's enough rambling in what we like to call the episode. 1149 01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:47,400 And now let's go ramble in the bonus section and make even less 1150 01:06:47,650 --> 01:06:48,840 sense . 1151 01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:52,320 So are we good? I have no fucking. 1152 01:06:52,430 --> 01:06:53,263 Idea. 1153 01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:57,080 Keep it kinky. Y'all. 1154 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,280 Keep and we'll see you next week. 1155 01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:09,133 God. Daddy. 1156 01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:11,000 Yes, baby girl. Can. 1157 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,920 I talk to the crickets? Please. 1158 01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:14,080 Now why would you, 1159 01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:17,040 why would you want me to give you permission to talk to the crickets? 1160 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,720 Because as soon as I give you permission, you're gonna just, I got nothing. 1161 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,040 Actually. 1162 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,240 I know what I want the emoji of the week to be and I need to let folks know. 1163 01:07:29,540 --> 01:07:34,240 Huh? That's an awful smug look on your face. I know. 1164 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,360 I'll pay for it later. You, you know, ? 1165 01:07:39,870 --> 01:07:40,610 Yeah. 1166 01:07:40,610 --> 01:07:43,120 Sorry. Podcast listeners. You have to use your imagination. 1167 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,840 , right? Yeah. A is a doozy. 1168 01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:48,840 I'm in, I'm in. Even. 1169 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,560 For you, I'm in a. 1170 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:50,600 Mood today, so. 1171 01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:51,880 Yeah, I know. 1172 01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:54,200 Uh, you know, and you know why, you know. 1173 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,593 . 1174 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,160 I asked a question I needed an answer to that I should have known, 1175 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,360 would have a conversation. Got the answer, but can't have the conversation. 1176 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,400 . I'm a little testy. . 1177 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:06,873 . 1178 01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:09,840 But I got the information I needed. 1179 01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:10,800 That's right. And. 1180 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,760 And you'll survive with this version of me. It'll be fine. . 1181 01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:18,360 You won't thrive, but you will survive. . I'm not thriving either, 1182 01:08:18,460 --> 01:08:23,200 but still, whatever. Can I please talk to the grants? You think I'm not ? 1183 01:08:23,830 --> 01:08:27,960 Look, I know that my focus can be like really all over the place, 1184 01:08:28,060 --> 01:08:29,880 but when I'm on the job, 1185 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,720 I can focus on most of the things that I'm supposed to. 1186 01:08:36,310 --> 01:08:40,440 Like 75% of the things. And when it's something I really want, 1187 01:08:41,140 --> 01:08:42,440 I'm a dog with a bum. Sorry. 1188 01:08:45,860 --> 01:08:46,840 Go ahead. Thank. 1189 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:51,560 You . So we'll do an emoji of the week, uh, 1190 01:08:51,980 --> 01:08:56,240 in honor of it being our podcast anniversary. Uh, 1191 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,760 I believe in the emoji option. There's like a microphone, 1192 01:09:01,230 --> 01:09:03,400 that one. And I think there's a couple of microphones. 1193 01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:07,480 Whichever microphone you have in your emojis. That's the one. 1194 01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:11,560 Because we are two weirdos on the internet with microphones. Um, 1195 01:09:11,950 --> 01:09:15,640 there's live chat, you can share it. Comments on YouTube podcast listeners. 1196 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,880 There's the show notes page on living bdsm.net. 1197 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,680 There's Twitter and Fe Life. 1198 01:09:22,300 --> 01:09:24,520 And you can hell DM me on Instagram. 1199 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:29,440 I don't tend to answer dms and Instagram 'cause I just don't. 1200 01:09:29,620 --> 01:09:32,520 Uh, , if you ever need to like, ask a question, 1201 01:09:32,980 --> 01:09:36,680 use the contact page on our website. I do respond to those. Um, but yeah. 1202 01:09:37,270 --> 01:09:40,320 However, we're connected. Mm-hmm. , uh, 1203 01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:44,080 please share the emoji of Loic. It's a microphone. 1204 01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:44,933 That's strange. 1205 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,040 Normally when you type in the word and it comes up with an emoji and you. 1206 01:09:48,420 --> 01:09:49,253 Uh. 1207 01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:51,520 It takes the word away. It didn't do that this time. 1208 01:09:51,820 --> 01:09:54,880 For Port, for folks who are like, what the fuck? John Brownstone, 1209 01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:57,560 who is now finally a moderator of the YouTube channel. 1210 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,640 was in the live chat and, uh, 1211 01:10:00,710 --> 01:10:05,520 both shared the word microphone and the emoji because technology's 1212 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,880 weird. It does what it wants. Mm-hmm. . Um, so bonus section stuff. 1213 01:10:11,630 --> 01:10:12,520 Have you got anything? 1214 01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:16,920 You who were so anxious to talk to the cricket? 1215 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,160 I just did. I had to share the information. Oh, I can wax, uh, 1216 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,960 I can't think of the expression. Wax. Poetic. Poetic. Thank you. 1217 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,320 I almost said wax on . I knew that was wrong. Something else. . 1218 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,800 I knew that was wrong. Uh, because if I wax on, 1219 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,680 I do have to wax off . Uh, 1220 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,800 I could wax poetic about my college age child or my middle schooler 1221 01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:43,080 and their whatever. Um, or the fact that we, uh, 1222 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,520 , well, I can't think of the term, the term for it, but oops. 1223 01:10:48,660 --> 01:10:52,840 Eed and bought a bunch of home stuff at Big Lots yesterday when we went for like 1224 01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:57,400 two things. , a curtain rod, and two sets of curtains. 1225 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,360 That's all we went for. We walked out with multiple new pillows, 1226 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,360 decorative pillows for the couch. In fairness, they were on clearance, 1227 01:11:05,540 --> 01:11:09,920 $10 or less per pillow. And the pillows that we have, 1228 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,880 that we use for all, you know, we like sleep on 'em, we hold 'em, whatever. Um, 1229 01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:18,080 we've had those for 10 years. Yeah. Give or take, give or take. 1230 01:11:18,130 --> 01:11:20,400 Since, since the, um, since the condo? 1231 01:11:20,650 --> 01:11:23,360 Since No. Before then. I think we moved. No. So. 1232 01:11:23,460 --> 01:11:25,400 The ones when we have the apartment, I don't think so. 1233 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,400 I don't know. We've had them a long time. We've had 'em, 1234 01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:29,040 and they look like we've had them a long time. And. 1235 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,000 They've been through two dogs. 1236 01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:35,040 Yes. Yes. And two teenagers. and. 1237 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,240 Two teenager. Yeah. Two dogs, two teenagers. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . 1238 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:38,840 Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Yeah. 1239 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,640 They were due to be replaced. They, they've lived a, 1240 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,360 a full pillow life. Yes. 1241 01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:49,920 And finding decent looking pillows that match the color scheme I like 1242 01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:55,000 for the living room. Uh, turquoise, if you wondered, um, . 1243 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,400 Actually it's, I mean, not purple. Yeah. 1244 01:11:57,740 --> 01:12:01,320 No. For the bedroom. I, I prefer purple. Yeah. Um, 1245 01:12:01,630 --> 01:12:02,920 somehow some way, 1246 01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:07,000 when I became single again before I met you, 1247 01:12:07,820 --> 01:12:12,280 my living room was always a creamer off white. Those were usually the walls, 1248 01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:15,200 dark brown furniture. Um, 1249 01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:18,880 and then the accent colors were always a turquoise and a teal. 1250 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,520 They just in different shades of that mm-hmm. . 1251 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,400 And I've just always really enjoyed that. Yeah. 1252 01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:26,640 And my dream that I didn't get to achieve until you and I moved in together was 1253 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,520 to have purple in the bedroom. But it's still the same kind of color scheme. 1254 01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:33,400 So it's a creamy off white. Depends on what the wall color is. 1255 01:12:33,790 --> 01:12:36,320 Dark brown furniture or black. Mm-hmm. . Like our, 1256 01:12:36,340 --> 01:12:41,080 our bed frame is black and then purple with maybe a silver 1257 01:12:41,180 --> 01:12:43,720 or gray, maybe a white but purple. 1258 01:12:44,260 --> 01:12:46,640 And usually like the plum egg planting purple. Mm-hmm. 1259 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:51,480 not like violet or anything. Right? No. Yeah. Yeah. So, 1260 01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:58,520 but yeah. So what were we talking ? 1261 01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:02,680 We bought pillows at Big Lots and we did not mean to That's that there's a, 1262 01:13:03,420 --> 01:13:08,320 what's the expression when you like spontaneously buy something and you didn't, 1263 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,840 you didn't mean to, there's a whole expression for. 1264 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,520 It. There is, and I can't think of it either. Can't. 1265 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,320 Think of it either. I don't know. Is it the heat getting to us? 1266 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:17,480 Probably. Is. 1267 01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:20,800 It the, is the chaos of the past two weeks finally catching up to us? 1268 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:22,060 Probably. 1269 01:13:22,060 --> 01:13:26,800 Are we still in shock that during the day while the 13 year old is in school, 1270 01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:30,200 this, we have this house to ourselves? Like, have we just not adjusted to that? 1271 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:34,920 I do keep waiting for the oldest to just walk in the door and that's. 1272 01:13:35,630 --> 01:13:35,940 Yeah. 1273 01:13:35,940 --> 01:13:40,680 Not gonna happen. Like, I'm just like constantly waiting for it. And um, 1274 01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:43,680 you did get to run through the kitchen and into the dining room. 1275 01:13:44,130 --> 01:13:45,440 Stark naked yesterday. 1276 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:46,720 . I did. We. 1277 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:47,800 May look what I can do. 1278 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:49,873 . 1279 01:13:50,060 --> 01:13:54,520 And look, the arms were out. He was like standing with feet apart. 1280 01:13:54,540 --> 01:13:58,520 And of course there was a butt slash pelvic wiggle. 1281 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:04,800 So just imagine all the things that we're wiggling and shaking and, you know, 1282 01:14:04,940 --> 01:14:08,760 moving and grooving. Um, yeah. And I just, 'cause I don't, 1283 01:14:09,290 --> 01:14:11,040 since we've lived together, I, it's, 1284 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,560 we've had so few opportunities to be naked outside of our bedroom that I'm just 1285 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,480 eating my lunch and whatever I was eating, 1286 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,000 I just stopped like halfway to my mouth and went, huh. And I went, oh. 1287 01:14:21,180 --> 01:14:25,280 And I went, oh. And then I still had that reactive gut thing of, oh God, 1288 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,640 is there anybody gonna, and of course not. It was just us. Yeah. 1289 01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:32,080 And actually silent Neva had came up. Impulse. 1290 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,960 Buying. Thank you. It was impulse. Thank you. Impulse buying. Impulse buying. 1291 01:14:35,020 --> 01:14:39,280 Yes. Only 'cause it was like deep, deep clearance and Big lots. Mm-hmm. 1292 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,280 Big Lots is a place, 1293 01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:45,040 for whatever reason since I became a single woman 1294 01:14:46,060 --> 01:14:50,560 at the age of 32, um, if I want home decor. And I'm like, okay. 1295 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,720 We're not like, we're not trying to buy the good stuff. I go to Big Lots. Yeah. 1296 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:58,440 Um, I was absolutely that lady who for many years had a live laugh, 1297 01:14:58,710 --> 01:15:03,320 love thing up in my, uh, living room before you. And we moved it over with us. 1298 01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:04,520 And then even through the, 1299 01:15:04,660 --> 01:15:09,360 the kids like totally giving me shit for it. 1300 01:15:09,740 --> 01:15:11,480 It wasn't 'cause I was all live, laugh, love. 1301 01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:15,160 It was 'cause it was the right color scheme. Okay. . . 1302 01:15:15,740 --> 01:15:19,040 It looked pretty on my wall. I didn't give a fuck what it said. . 1303 01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:21,640 The only ones that I go, no, 1304 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,360 I don't want that on my wall are the ones that are more religious. 1305 01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:27,280 'cause I'm not a religious person, so it doesn't fit for me. 1306 01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:29,280 But I was a live laugh, 1307 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,720 love girly because it was cute and it went with a decor. 1308 01:15:34,580 --> 01:15:39,080 So . Yeah. 1309 01:15:39,380 --> 01:15:43,320 If I had seen some purple pillows that were the right shade of purple, 1310 01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:48,320 I'd have gotten him for the bedroom. Yeah. But we did not. I believe that. Yeah. 1311 01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:52,080 I'm a, I'm a big lot Stan. I'm here for it. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. 1312 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,960 . I often forget it though. Like, I'll go to Walmart, I go to Aldi, 1313 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,040 like for inexpensive things. I'm like, and I, I forget. 1314 01:15:58,060 --> 01:16:02,800 And I'm thinking of when we were I prepping the 18 year old for his apartment. 1315 01:16:03,010 --> 01:16:05,360 We're walking through last time. Like, why the fuck didn't we come here? 1316 01:16:06,180 --> 01:16:09,800 It would might've been a little bit cheaper. Yeah. Forgot all about it. Mm-hmm. 1317 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,840 . But we need to, 13 year old is struggling with sleep. 1318 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,280 I don't know. It could be the handful of medications that he is on. 1319 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,320 It could be the stress of, you know, being 13. I don't know. Um, 1320 01:16:20,500 --> 01:16:25,040 but we're trying to make his room more conducive. Conducive to sleep. Yeah. 1321 01:16:25,140 --> 01:16:25,973 To sleep for him. 1322 01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:30,240 He's a kid that loves it to be as dark as possible. 1323 01:16:30,940 --> 01:16:33,840 And his room is fairly dark, but there's light creeping in. 1324 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,600 So we got some blackout and some room darkening curtains. Yeah. And, um, 1325 01:16:39,630 --> 01:16:43,640 I've sent out to the family 'cause his birthday's coming up. 1326 01:16:43,670 --> 01:16:48,440 He's about to be the 14 year old. Um, you know, some present ideas. 1327 01:16:48,460 --> 01:16:49,720 And I'm like, oh, by the way, 1328 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,320 his therapist recommends a weighted blanket that's outta my budget book. Hey, 1329 01:16:53,420 --> 01:16:57,760 you got grandma money, uh, . He wanna get the kid a weighted blanket. 1330 01:16:57,820 --> 01:16:59,840 He would love it. Yeah. And then I pointed out, 1331 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,770 apparently there are weighted stuffies at, at Target. I don't know, 1332 01:17:04,770 --> 01:17:07,890 there might be other places, but heard about them at Target. I was like, no, 1333 01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:11,480 I'm saying if you wanna buy those for him, he won't be mad at. 1334 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,960 'Em. Just need to let Lola get in bed with 'em. She's. 1335 01:17:14,290 --> 01:17:17,280 First of all, his bed is way too high for. 1336 01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:18,480 Her. I I know it is. I'm. 1337 01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:22,000 Big booty gimpy leg self. I'm. 1338 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,640 Joking. I know, I'm well aware of that. 1339 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,760 I No, you are the guy who would build her a, a ramp or steps. I would. 1340 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,560 I know you would. And I'm already prepared that as she gets older, she'll, 1341 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,720 she'll need that just to get on the sofa. And I'm already I know. 1342 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,520 Planning out how I'm gonna do that for her. 1343 01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,840 I know. But if you teach her the way of a ramp or stairs, then it's, 1344 01:17:41,870 --> 01:17:46,800 it's a short bleep to getting an hour bed. And that is where I draw one . 1345 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:47,590 I have not, 1346 01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:51,560 have never been a Sure my dog can sleep in the bed with me kind of person. 1347 01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:52,533 I'm just not, 1348 01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:57,720 also the bed is barely big enough for the two of us to 1349 01:17:57,850 --> 01:18:01,730 exist without me melting. We are not adding a third. 1350 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,930 Body. I never said anything. You would in a. 1351 01:18:04,930 --> 01:18:08,610 Heartbeat. If I went, okay, get me drunk enough, I might go, okay. 1352 01:18:08,670 --> 01:18:10,690 And next thing you know, there's a ramp up to our bed. 1353 01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:13,850 Get you drunk enough. I need to go get some more, uh, vodka then. 1354 01:18:16,810 --> 01:18:18,410 I am jonesing for margaritas. 1355 01:18:24,210 --> 01:18:28,950 I guess I would even accept at-home margaritas. Oh, I mean, what I, 1356 01:18:29,610 --> 01:18:33,590 is it, is it a good margarita if you don't have chip salsa in queso? 1357 01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:38,150 I don't think it is, but I'm just saying. 1358 01:18:38,780 --> 01:18:39,710 Take care. Andre. 1359 01:18:40,370 --> 01:18:43,390 Um, I think was silently mentioned it, um, 1360 01:18:44,900 --> 01:18:47,590 Patreon this Friday, August 25th. Mm-hmm. Day. 1361 01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:49,950 This episode goes live for podcast listeners. Uh, 1362 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:54,070 we're doing our game night in Patreon for $10 and up members. True. 1363 01:18:54,210 --> 01:18:58,710 And I'm hoping that this weekend there will be an adult beverage or two please. 1364 01:18:58,730 --> 01:18:59,563 And thank you. 1365 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,113 Maybe. 1366 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,310 How's your tummy doing? 1367 01:19:03,490 --> 01:19:06,070 We didn't do adult beverages on our last stream because of your tummy. 1368 01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:07,270 It's, it's doing better. 1369 01:19:07,540 --> 01:19:08,373 Okay, good. 1370 01:19:08,740 --> 01:19:09,573 It's doing better. 1371 01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:14,190 Okay. Lola is snoring. 1372 01:19:14,340 --> 01:19:18,830 Like she got off her third shift job this morning. . 1373 01:19:19,210 --> 01:19:19,980 Oh my God. 1374 01:19:19,980 --> 01:19:23,150 Well she went outside earlier. Mm-hmm. laid in the sun and, 1375 01:19:23,150 --> 01:19:26,750 and she laid in the sun and, and you know, charged her her batteries. We. 1376 01:19:26,750 --> 01:19:27,590 Charged her batteries. She solar. 1377 01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:31,190 Powered. Yeah. So, um, you know. Yeah. Now, 1378 01:19:31,290 --> 01:19:33,350 now she's gotta sleep it off. Yeah. 1379 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,750 She's so adorable. . She's been Oh, 1380 01:19:38,050 --> 01:19:39,670 so the pillows that we replaced, 1381 01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:43,350 because they definitely have dog drool all over them as well. . Um, 1382 01:19:43,450 --> 01:19:45,110 and Yes, they were the kind I No, 1383 01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:47,270 these were the kind you I could not take the covers off. 1384 01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:51,110 I couldn't actually wash, wash. I know. If you're grossed up by that same, um, 1385 01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:55,590 , we put those in her crate 'cause they're basically her pillows. 1386 01:19:55,590 --> 01:20:00,430 There have been many a day. Not only was she laying on my spot on the couch, 1387 01:20:00,610 --> 01:20:04,390 her head was on the pillow I liked to use. Yeah. Like, she is just chilling. 1388 01:20:04,490 --> 01:20:08,400 So I went, okay, here you can have these pillows. So 1389 01:20:10,030 --> 01:20:12,840 yeah. I don't know. Like, 1390 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,760 I wanna hang out and I wanna stay here for the little bit that we can because 1391 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,200 mm-hmm. , you do have to go pick up a kid from school. Yep. Soon. 1392 01:20:18,380 --> 01:20:22,120 But also, I don't feel like I have anything, like my brain is a jumble. 1393 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,160 Like nothing is like mm-hmm. coming in clear. 1394 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,960 Nothing's slotting in with Yes. 1395 01:20:26,140 --> 01:20:28,960 Say this next in a order of words that will make sense. 1396 01:20:29,220 --> 01:20:33,080 To other people. I mean, I haven't been doing a whole lot of outside of working. 1397 01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:34,460 Yeah. No. 1398 01:20:34,460 --> 01:20:39,160 Myself, you know, um, even last weekend, 1399 01:20:39,220 --> 01:20:43,200 oh my gosh. Didn't feel like a weekend. We ran so many errands and we did. 1400 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:43,900 A lot of stuff. Yeah. 1401 01:20:43,900 --> 01:20:45,680 And, and then we did a lot of stuff. And. 1402 01:20:46,060 --> 01:20:47,720 You didn't take any downtime last week? 1403 01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:49,000 No. The. 1404 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,200 Only day off air quote, that was the Wednesday that we moved the kid in. Mm-hmm. 1405 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,073 . I at least try. 1406 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,280 I took Friday afternoon off and read a whole ass book. It was delightful. 1407 01:20:57,390 --> 01:21:02,160 Yeah. No, I, I need to work on that because Yeah. 1408 01:21:02,220 --> 01:21:05,720 We, we take a break. I don't take a break. I always have other work that I'm. 1409 01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:10,480 Well, and this time was understandable the week prior you were in New York. 1410 01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:15,280 True. Which you didn't have to do any of the normal home stuff, 1411 01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:20,080 but you were working. Yeah. There was stuff you like manual, 1412 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:25,560 physical labor you ended up having to do. Um, so that didn't feel like a break. 1413 01:21:25,660 --> 01:21:29,160 It was also very emotionally and mentally taxing. Mm-hmm. 1414 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,280 So that didn't feel like a break. Now my argument would've been, hey, come home, 1415 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:38,080 decompress and just sit still for a few days. But also, uh, 1416 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,960 , I, you and I, I came back. You had to go out to shop. We. 1417 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,160 Needed to pay the mortgage . I came, 1418 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,320 I came back to how many orders . You did. 1419 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:47,720 I did my job very well. 1420 01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:48,960 You welcome. You did. You did. 1421 01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:52,640 So, so yeah. Like it's, it, 1422 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:57,320 part of that is the whole self-employed run your own business thing. Mm-hmm. 1423 01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,720 where Yeah. Instead of a 40 hour work week, 1424 01:21:59,750 --> 01:22:03,000 it's a 24 7 hour work week sometimes. Yeah. Um, 1425 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,880 I know that the time we get, 1426 01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:08,280 we probably do the best at downtime or the two weeks we take off at the holidays 1427 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,240 at the end of the year. Yeah. Um, 'cause the orders slow down. 1428 01:22:11,870 --> 01:22:15,520 It's understandable if you're not in the shop and making stuff. Correct. Like, 1429 01:22:15,820 --> 01:22:16,360 so we're just, 1430 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,000 we're just living for the last two weeks of the years mm-hmm. 1431 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,760 pretty much. Pretty much. 1432 01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:24,000 Well yeah. We, if all goes well and if we've done our jobs right, 1433 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,120 we're about to go into that period where we don't, we don't even take days off. 1434 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,120 Right. We're just going, um, so, and, and that's fine. Mm-hmm. . 1435 01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:36,080 Um, but yeah. So you haven't really break? I no. 1436 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:36,913 Barely braked. 1437 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,720 I have been trying to make more time and purposely like put my fucking phone 1438 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:45,560 down so I can stop doom scrolling and like read a book or do 1439 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,320 some, do something else. Mm-hmm. we watched, uh, 1440 01:22:48,430 --> 01:22:52,320 last weekend 'cause it's now on Disney Plus we watched Guardians of the Galaxy 1441 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,520 Volume three. Correct. 1442 01:22:54,460 --> 01:22:59,400 Not like in my top three or five of Marvel movies, but it was okay. Mm-hmm. 1443 01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:00,160 , it was decent. Yeah. 1444 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,040 To me it was right up there with Quantum Mania, 1445 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:06,480 the Amp Man and Wasp whatever movie it was like, it was okay. It was like, 1446 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,200 I don't go in expecting a Marvel movie to be cinema. You know, 1447 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,200 like Yeah. It's not. 1448 01:23:12,670 --> 01:23:13,070 Yeah. 1449 01:23:13,070 --> 01:23:15,800 It's, I just needed to, I need it to be brain candy. Mm-hmm. 1450 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,400 Can I shut my mind off? Are the things in there so like. 1451 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,200 Easily done and enjoy an alternate reality. 1452 01:23:21,220 --> 01:23:22,480 For Right. Where I'm not a couple. 1453 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:23,020 Hours. 1454 01:23:23,020 --> 01:23:25,360 If you've got me questioning what the fuck's going on. Okay. 1455 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:26,480 Something's gone off the rails. 1456 01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:29,440 But if I can just like turn my head off for a bit and go, oh yes, 1457 01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:31,520 we were watching this movie for two and a half, three hours. Mm-hmm. 1458 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,240 great. It's done its job. Yeah. But if I'm then ranking, like, 1459 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,080 which are my favorite Yeah. It's, it's not, but it's fine. Mm-hmm. 1460 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,600 . It's fine. Yeah. 1461 01:23:40,140 --> 01:23:40,780 So. 1462 01:23:40,780 --> 01:23:44,560 Are there any other Marvel movies coming to Disney Plus soon? 1463 01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:48,200 Soon? I don't know. No. I don't know. Don't know. Hey X, 1464 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,160 sorry you couldn't be here. 1465 01:23:49,940 --> 01:23:52,960 That's JB talking to the live chat for anybody who's not looking at the live 1466 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,960 chat. Um, so yeah. Mm-hmm. 1467 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,320 , I mean it's, it's, 1468 01:23:58,350 --> 01:24:03,200 it's still really too hot out to, you know, to do anything outside. 1469 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,640 Mm-hmm. . Um, I mean the big, big thing I um, 1470 01:24:08,820 --> 01:24:12,560 you know, I I've been enjoying having my, um, 1471 01:24:15,380 --> 01:24:18,200 old school stereo system and, and listening to albums. 1472 01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:19,960 You are adorable. You're like a little kid. 1473 01:24:20,180 --> 01:24:24,360 You put your little headphones on and you kind of bebop between the stereo to 1474 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,560 your seat on the couch and you doo and sometimes you'll stand there and like 1475 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,120 look through whatever the stuff is in the album and you're like, 1476 01:24:30,300 --> 01:24:34,000 and you're just a little heads bobbing. And when I'm knowingly in the room, 1477 01:24:34,820 --> 01:24:37,400 you might hum to yourself, but you don't really like, 1478 01:24:37,630 --> 01:24:38,840 it's not a full throated singing. 1479 01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:44,080 Now compare that to you have your noise canceling 1480 01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:47,000 earbuds in and Spotify on, 1481 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,640 and we're in the garage and neighbors are fucking everywhere. 1482 01:24:49,940 --> 01:24:52,800 And this man is giving us a concert. 1483 01:24:54,020 --> 01:24:57,200 That's how I keep people away. . Well. 1484 01:24:58,140 --> 01:25:01,520 The neighbors that just moved in a few months ago have moved out and are selling 1485 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,120 their house, which we are desperate to know the gossip of how, 1486 01:25:05,230 --> 01:25:08,120 like what happened that if there was a three month turnaround. Right. 1487 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,680 Because it's not like they flipped it. They didn't like do anything major to it. 1488 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,040 It wasn't that kind of deal. No. Something had to have happened. 1489 01:25:13,150 --> 01:25:14,840 They have moved. Well, 1490 01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:18,240 I've been a ton of showings and it's actually currently pending. 1491 01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:20,960 So we'll see if we're getting new neighbors anytime soon. . 1492 01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:23,440 And almost every day that's somebody, 1493 01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:28,160 whether it's people viewing the home or it was like the home inspector or the 1494 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,480 realtor or whoever this mans, 1495 01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:35,080 but outside in either the garage or the, the shop Outback. 1496 01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:37,680 Just sing it . 1497 01:25:38,620 --> 01:25:41,840 Loudly truth in advertising. Let 'em know what they're getting into. 1498 01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:43,600 Into and look and they still put in an offer. 1499 01:25:43,940 --> 01:25:48,040 So you did not scare them away. 1500 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,200 A silent wing asked, wait, are these the Washington as two liberal neighbors? 1501 01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:56,880 Yes, yes. Yes. They closed on their house like at the end of April, 1502 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,000 early May moved in late, 1503 01:25:59,420 --> 01:26:04,040 may spent the summer repainting rooms slowly unpacking, 1504 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,880 like they had a whole plan. Mm-hmm. Because their garage was filled with boxes. 1505 01:26:07,020 --> 01:26:08,200 We are those nosy neighbors. 1506 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,480 We noticed those details and they'd even told us Yeah. 1507 01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:13,440 We're having to repaint all the rooms and what we're doing is as we repaint a 1508 01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:16,240 room, then we bring the boxes and everything in and unpack. Yeah. And unpack. 1509 01:26:16,300 --> 01:26:20,360 And they had been doing that and then outta nowhere, like what, two weeks ago? 1510 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:21,230 Three. 1511 01:26:21,230 --> 01:26:22,063 Yeah. 1512 01:26:22,610 --> 01:26:25,720 First sale signs up, they're packing up their stuff. Here comes the U-Haul. 1513 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:26,830 I was like. 1514 01:26:26,830 --> 01:26:30,360 Damn, what kind? Well, I, I noticed they were doing a lot of stuff. 1515 01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:33,600 They brought their, their RV back. Mm-hmm. to the house. Mm-hmm. 1516 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,880 and, and there was a lot of stuff being shuffled around. 1517 01:26:37,470 --> 01:26:39,920 Then I left for New York. Mm-hmm. 1518 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:44,520 and I came back and they're gone lock stock and barrel and there's 1519 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,920 a for, for sale sign on the. 1520 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,400 House. And they had been doing stuff on the outside that now I'm like, 1521 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,200 well were they doing that? 'cause they wanted their house to look like that? 1522 01:26:52,380 --> 01:26:54,640 Or were they trying to like boost the curb appeal? Mm-hmm. . 1523 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,840 It does look, it looks nice. It does look nice. It did look bad before, 1524 01:26:56,940 --> 01:27:00,200 but it looks nice. Mm-hmm. . But yeah, we got real excited. 1525 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,720 'cause um, on the other side of them, that side of their fence, 1526 01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:09,600 some part of it got replaced and we were like, oh, are they redoing their fence? 1527 01:27:09,620 --> 01:27:10,720 Mm-hmm. . And we were like, oh, 1528 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,280 well you come over to this side of your fence and redo it. They did not. 1529 01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:18,080 They did not. Um, so yeah, it's, uh, . 1530 01:27:18,820 --> 01:27:19,760 So it's like the, 1531 01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:23,640 the unknown thing that we're kind of hoping that now I don't wanna have a 1532 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,680 conversation with any neighbor at all. , not even to find out. 1533 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,280 What I keep hoping for is that the stars will align and a gossipy neighbor who 1534 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,200 knows what happened Right. Will be outside while JB is outside. 1535 01:27:35,540 --> 01:27:40,520 But I am not, and he can get the information and bring it home to me. That's, 1536 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,200 that's what I keep hoping for . Um, but the, 1537 01:27:43,300 --> 01:27:47,880 the neighbor bestie has been busy and she's constantly gone. Right. So, 1538 01:27:47,940 --> 01:27:48,560 you know. 1539 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,680 Whatever. Yep, yep. I, I agree. Silent. I don't see it as a loss either. 1540 01:27:53,020 --> 01:27:55,400 No. If the first time you ever have a conversation with us, 1541 01:27:55,420 --> 01:28:00,160 it is to disparage our dog. Yeah. We are not your people and you're not ours. 1542 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,400 Mm-hmm. 1543 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:00,540 . 1544 01:28:00,540 --> 01:28:03,200 Mm-hmm. . Um, so yeah, it'll be interesting. 1545 01:28:03,300 --> 01:28:04,480 But I still wanna know what. 1546 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:05,420 Happened. Yeah. Because. 1547 01:28:05,420 --> 01:28:07,000 I'm, you know, yeah. I'm nosy lying that. 1548 01:28:07,390 --> 01:28:08,223 Curiosity. 1549 01:28:08,830 --> 01:28:12,920 Nosy need to know. But 1550 01:28:14,670 --> 01:28:17,400 yeah. So it's just, I, the, 1551 01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:20,240 some of the chaos has died down and now we're creating our own chaos. 1552 01:28:20,460 --> 01:28:23,200 So clearly we can't live without the chaos. Uh, 1553 01:28:24,340 --> 01:28:27,360 but everybody seems settled. The 13 year old has settled, 1554 01:28:28,380 --> 01:28:30,920 see it seems mm-hmm. into the start of the school year, thank God. 1555 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,000 'cause I had two weeks of like on edge panic about that. Yeah. Um, 1556 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,760 'cause he did not seem to be settling. The, uh, 1557 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:43,560 18 year old has been busy, uh, almost from the moment we we left. 1558 01:28:43,780 --> 01:28:46,040 And so I have talked to him a little bit, but not a lot. Mm-hmm. . 1559 01:28:46,460 --> 01:28:50,480 Um, I'm hoping he does not have marching practice this evening. 1560 01:28:50,540 --> 01:28:53,520 And so maybe I can actually have a conversation and find out how first day of 1561 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,600 classes went. Um, . Yeah. 1562 01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:00,720 JB and I are good because we are, 1563 01:29:00,860 --> 01:29:04,120 but also I think we've been jump roping on each other's nerves. 1564 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:09,320 and not having conversations that need to have, 1565 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:14,080 because we're like, but we're so busy . So, you know, it's same old, 1566 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,800 same old around here. Um, and now 1567 01:29:18,420 --> 01:29:20,560 we have to stop even though I really enjoy this. 1568 01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:24,920 If I could figure out a way to like justify just streaming, 1569 01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:28,520 just whatever. Yeah. I probably would. 1570 01:29:29,300 --> 01:29:32,040 But I, you, you probably would. Yeah. I agree. I agree. 1571 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,920 I haven't been able to Oh, my chin itches. Anyway, so we're gonna go. Yep. 1572 01:29:37,180 --> 01:29:39,760 Uh, thanks for hanging with us. Mm-hmm. being here, 1573 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:44,120 especially to the bitter end. Y'all are the proudest of proud crickets. 1574 01:29:44,580 --> 01:29:45,680 That's true. That's. 1575 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,640 True. Whether you have listened to the back catalog or you've been here from the 1576 01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,080 beginning, thanks for sell or, 1577 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,200 and whether you're brand new and you just found us. Yeah. 1578 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:53,360 It's like this uh, 1579 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:58,200 thanks for being here for up to eight years so far. Yeah. 1580 01:29:58,700 --> 01:29:59,533 Um. 1581 01:30:00,270 --> 01:30:00,620 Yeah. 1582 01:30:00,620 --> 01:30:01,960 God flies when you're having fun. 1583 01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:06,000 It does. It really, really does. Mm-hmm. . Okay. Okay. 1584 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,240 I guess we're gonna go. Yep. We love y'all. Mm-hmm. . Bye. 1585 01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:09,720 Bye.