1 00:00:05,074 --> 00:00:07,012 Welcome to the self help podcast, 2 00:00:07,391 --> 00:00:10,429 a weekly 9 it's sky dedicated to your 3 00:00:10,429 --> 00:00:12,119 emotional health and Well being 4 00:00:12,730 --> 00:00:13,944 presented by Entrepreneur, 5 00:00:14,317 --> 00:00:15,849 Edward Lamb and psycho 6 00:00:16,460 --> 00:00:17,149 shawn north 7 00:00:17,827 --> 00:00:20,535 For more information, visit live the president dot 8 00:00:20,535 --> 00:00:21,332 c dot uk. 9 00:00:25,236 --> 00:00:26,590 Okay. Hello. Welcome to your episode. 10 00:00:27,481 --> 00:00:30,265 Episode 518 of the self help podcast with 11 00:00:30,265 --> 00:00:31,935 me at lamb and we could pile shaun 12 00:00:31,935 --> 00:00:34,339 off with you alright shaun. I am. So 13 00:00:34,339 --> 00:00:36,017 a few little technical issues there before we 14 00:00:36,017 --> 00:00:38,094 got started? Yeah. And how do we fix 15 00:00:38,094 --> 00:00:40,172 it? We turned it off and we turned 16 00:00:40,172 --> 00:00:42,024 it back on again. There you go. The... 17 00:00:42,264 --> 00:00:44,180 When doubt. Is there an advice there, or 18 00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:47,293 anything we can when technology tends to appreciate 19 00:00:47,293 --> 00:00:49,289 that. Does it work for human beings? It 20 00:00:49,289 --> 00:00:50,886 does that's what they did with my heart 21 00:00:50,886 --> 00:00:52,818 when it would work. They said we'll stop 22 00:00:52,818 --> 00:00:54,976 it and start at the again cardio version. 23 00:00:55,295 --> 00:00:57,213 What's the worst that could happen? Yeah. It 24 00:00:57,213 --> 00:00:59,370 doesn't start again. But that it did work 25 00:00:59,370 --> 00:00:59,930 first time. 26 00:01:01,539 --> 00:01:02,256 Yeah. Okay. 27 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:06,161 Yeah. Plumbing computers. So good when they work. 28 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,803 Yeah. Way this thing works 99 percent of 29 00:01:08,803 --> 00:01:09,780 the time. But 30 00:01:11,269 --> 00:01:13,257 when they don't... It's the right fa, Ai. 31 00:01:13,416 --> 00:01:15,166 But, what we're talking about today Sean on 32 00:01:15,166 --> 00:01:15,962 truth and lies, 33 00:01:16,534 --> 00:01:18,555 Yeah. I'd I've I've had so many 34 00:01:19,814 --> 00:01:20,295 people. 35 00:01:22,135 --> 00:01:23,415 Collectively and individually. 36 00:01:23,988 --> 00:01:26,400 Talking about the the fact that 37 00:01:26,776 --> 00:01:29,325 we've just had the election. And also told 38 00:01:29,325 --> 00:01:31,237 about the election in France, it seems to 39 00:01:31,237 --> 00:01:32,352 kicks a lot of people here. 40 00:01:33,723 --> 00:01:35,880 But people saying they're all effing liars, 41 00:01:36,919 --> 00:01:38,437 and they promise all this stuff, and they 42 00:01:38,437 --> 00:01:39,555 won't deliver anyway. 43 00:01:40,129 --> 00:01:42,522 And and Kia Would come out and said 44 00:01:42,522 --> 00:01:44,436 they were gonna build so many houses in, 45 00:01:45,233 --> 00:01:48,025 whatever time. Yep. And then everybody, the I 46 00:01:48,025 --> 00:01:48,663 spoken to. 47 00:01:50,111 --> 00:01:52,096 I can't find anybody that is gonna yeah, 48 00:01:52,255 --> 00:01:53,764 That's good idea. They're saying well it's all 49 00:01:53,764 --> 00:01:55,987 bloody lies because they won't do it. And 50 00:01:55,987 --> 00:01:58,687 then and then when they do, they've got 51 00:01:58,687 --> 00:01:59,060 this 52 00:01:59,498 --> 00:02:02,311 and releasing plots to build them. They're gonna 53 00:02:02,370 --> 00:02:05,161 release all the lovely green lands and and 54 00:02:05,161 --> 00:02:06,836 all the brown land that be just left. 55 00:02:07,075 --> 00:02:09,645 You know, there was... Excuse me while. Coffee 56 00:02:09,645 --> 00:02:11,164 machine switches off. Yeah. 57 00:02:12,205 --> 00:02:12,705 So 58 00:02:13,324 --> 00:02:15,004 yeah. We've found a general elections since the 59 00:02:15,004 --> 00:02:16,419 last 1 that we're gonna talk about 60 00:02:17,175 --> 00:02:19,721 the future of the Uk and yeah. You 61 00:02:19,721 --> 00:02:20,698 know, I'm a 62 00:02:21,312 --> 00:02:24,033 small scale local politician myself. So I'll add 63 00:02:24,033 --> 00:02:26,507 my little perspective on. Yeah. How, I do 64 00:02:26,507 --> 00:02:27,784 my best to tell the truth at all 65 00:02:27,784 --> 00:02:28,423 times. Yeah. 66 00:02:30,019 --> 00:02:31,535 Yeah. But before that, I live in the 67 00:02:31,535 --> 00:02:33,379 present dot code at uk for all the 68 00:02:33,379 --> 00:02:35,047 show notes and links as ever, 69 00:02:36,001 --> 00:02:36,875 available on the website. 70 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:39,100 You can sign up via the email address 71 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:41,901 for a regular ish alerts to whenever we 72 00:02:41,901 --> 00:02:43,735 managed... I managed to find times to publish 73 00:02:43,735 --> 00:02:45,729 the the in episode of the show? Yeah. 74 00:02:46,048 --> 00:02:48,202 Life's been crazy hasn't... It's been hectic tech 75 00:02:48,202 --> 00:02:49,956 and that. I know and I keep thinking 76 00:02:49,956 --> 00:02:50,435 it or get. 77 00:02:51,085 --> 00:02:52,751 A bit more simple. And I think it's 78 00:02:52,751 --> 00:02:54,497 probably, you know, 678 years. We've been doing 79 00:02:54,497 --> 00:02:55,711 this. We we keep 80 00:02:56,163 --> 00:02:58,305 regular listeners will know that we've probably been 81 00:02:58,305 --> 00:02:58,995 hoping for 82 00:02:59,512 --> 00:03:00,945 peace and quiet in our lives for a 83 00:03:00,945 --> 00:03:03,015 long time. But... Yeah. It doesn't come. Does 84 00:03:03,015 --> 00:03:04,130 it no? No. Gosh. 85 00:03:05,006 --> 00:03:07,449 No. 1 1 set of issues up another 86 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:09,904 And then you you go and get elected 87 00:03:09,962 --> 00:03:10,462 and, 88 00:03:11,557 --> 00:03:12,217 and I. 89 00:03:12,754 --> 00:03:14,429 Oh, yeah. Works working your way up to 90 00:03:14,429 --> 00:03:15,705 me the promo. And I just do this 91 00:03:15,705 --> 00:03:17,435 for a couple of years, and then then 92 00:03:17,713 --> 00:03:18,906 then we can chill out and like, oh, 93 00:03:19,144 --> 00:03:21,212 no. I want this mud merry go round. 94 00:03:21,610 --> 00:03:21,769 Okay. 95 00:03:23,836 --> 00:03:26,239 Anyway, but, yeah, Clearly before we start, you 96 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:27,436 posted something into your Facebook. 97 00:03:28,713 --> 00:03:31,028 Oh, in the week I saw about an 98 00:03:31,028 --> 00:03:34,460 anniversary Percy pig. Yeah. Interesting because and 6 99 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:34,914 of 100 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:36,069 July, 101 00:03:36,626 --> 00:03:37,422 2 years ago, 102 00:03:38,377 --> 00:03:40,447 I had the mitral valve in my heart 103 00:03:40,447 --> 00:03:41,561 replaced, which is all lost of fun. 104 00:03:43,169 --> 00:03:46,201 And if it wasn't percy pig contributing that 105 00:03:46,201 --> 00:03:48,356 valve, I wouldn't be here. Nope. And that 106 00:03:48,356 --> 00:03:50,032 was really weird because I I was veggie 107 00:03:50,032 --> 00:03:50,591 at the time. 108 00:03:52,277 --> 00:03:54,130 And it was really odd to make that 109 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:56,175 decision to agree to have that vow. 110 00:03:56,812 --> 00:03:57,766 Vegetarian. Right? Yeah. 111 00:03:58,578 --> 00:04:00,890 But yeah. Well, you're not ingesting it. Are 112 00:04:00,890 --> 00:04:00,970 you? 113 00:04:01,927 --> 00:04:04,798 But you're still... It's... I mean, Percy sell 114 00:04:04,798 --> 00:04:06,313 to give up his life to give me 115 00:04:06,313 --> 00:04:09,592 the valves. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Vegetarians not 116 00:04:09,592 --> 00:04:12,057 have, like, blood transfusion or do they go? 117 00:04:12,296 --> 00:04:14,340 Some some will be really? Well They were 118 00:04:14,459 --> 00:04:16,699 haven't been. I mean, I ended up I 119 00:04:16,699 --> 00:04:18,379 to have 6 units of blood and so 120 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:21,500 Was I had no pigs blood. No people. 121 00:04:21,660 --> 00:04:22,060 It could've have been. 122 00:04:23,112 --> 00:04:24,410 And put in 123 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:27,419 and had to have the new valve. Yeah. 124 00:04:28,696 --> 00:04:29,196 And 125 00:04:30,291 --> 00:04:32,125 my blood count was so low. 126 00:04:32,698 --> 00:04:35,567 That I ended up eating meat again, and 127 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:37,319 it's... I to get what your iron levels 128 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:40,285 are for or good goodness no. And I... 129 00:04:40,525 --> 00:04:41,965 I'm at a point at the moment where 130 00:04:42,045 --> 00:04:44,444 I'm, especially with the anniversary of Percy day. 131 00:04:44,764 --> 00:04:47,405 Yep. I'm thinking, should I go back to 132 00:04:47,405 --> 00:04:48,845 being veggie again? I do it. 133 00:04:49,578 --> 00:04:51,646 I'm, I'm going through those kind of internal 134 00:04:51,646 --> 00:04:53,476 conflicts. At least you're here with us to 135 00:04:53,476 --> 00:04:55,385 have those kind of your to go through 136 00:04:55,385 --> 00:04:55,862 all that stuff. 137 00:04:56,514 --> 00:04:58,584 Yeah. I thought I'd be with Percy. Where 138 00:04:58,584 --> 00:04:58,823 the person. 139 00:05:00,655 --> 00:05:02,885 Yeah chatting out with him. Yeah. I wonder 140 00:05:02,885 --> 00:05:04,159 what percy he's up to. But, yeah. No 141 00:05:04,159 --> 00:05:06,561 1 consistently here. 2 years since the operation, 142 00:05:07,037 --> 00:05:08,491 which means it's probably about 143 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:10,454 2 and 8 years. Well, 144 00:05:11,169 --> 00:05:13,172 you on the downward spiral for 6 months 145 00:05:13,172 --> 00:05:14,925 a year before that 1, yeah. I I 146 00:05:14,925 --> 00:05:16,859 had I didn't realize why Had a background 147 00:05:16,996 --> 00:05:20,343 sepsis that turned into gosh. I remember that 148 00:05:20,343 --> 00:05:21,617 remember you were in amsterdam and you were 149 00:05:21,617 --> 00:05:23,541 just... Oh, god. Yeah. You're right old. Yeah. 150 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:25,447 I mean, little behind ended up falling off 151 00:05:25,447 --> 00:05:27,354 a bike. You did Yeah. Do we you 152 00:05:27,354 --> 00:05:29,022 did... You ever tell it? You a better 153 00:05:29,022 --> 00:05:31,167 half about that or Man and we kept 154 00:05:31,167 --> 00:05:31,643 under us. 155 00:05:32,694 --> 00:05:34,132 And we stopped at a junction there doing 156 00:05:34,132 --> 00:05:35,730 week. And I just follow. And you just 157 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:38,047 went sideways and Yeah. Laughed it off and 158 00:05:38,047 --> 00:05:39,725 got back up. Yeah. But you're in bed 159 00:05:39,725 --> 00:05:41,734 every night but like 06:00 man. I was... 160 00:05:42,053 --> 00:05:44,363 I I I've didn't wear how ill wasn't 161 00:05:44,363 --> 00:05:46,115 until lot wallet. We did a... I put 162 00:05:46,115 --> 00:05:47,151 you through a lot of walking that hole 163 00:05:47,151 --> 00:05:48,840 at that Was a holiday. It was work, 164 00:05:48,999 --> 00:05:50,673 but we were. Yeah. Yeah. We were just 165 00:05:50,673 --> 00:05:52,347 that taken in the city. Right? Yeah. It 166 00:05:52,347 --> 00:05:54,020 was good good Need to going again. We 167 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:55,375 should go again. Now you've got a new 168 00:05:55,375 --> 00:05:57,169 heart Yeah. Part of your cardio 169 00:05:57,790 --> 00:06:00,449 rehabilitation should be... Yeah. But I start 170 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:04,042 Helping think Started Cardio, rehab now. Right? Which 171 00:06:04,042 --> 00:06:06,108 is good. Well, you go, Speak rehab and 172 00:06:06,108 --> 00:06:08,492 say, Yeah. Getting to pay for some trade 173 00:06:08,492 --> 00:06:11,511 tickets to yeah sit down again. Yeah. Go 174 00:06:11,511 --> 00:06:12,878 or go and we live it. Can we 175 00:06:12,878 --> 00:06:15,111 take our own bikes at so. Well, I 176 00:06:15,111 --> 00:06:16,228 wish just hire them when over there? 177 00:06:17,025 --> 00:06:18,381 Good to those bikes Yeah yeah 178 00:06:19,019 --> 00:06:20,933 Yeah. Yeah. Alright. We we should do that? 179 00:06:21,093 --> 00:06:21,571 That'd be a laugh. 180 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:25,089 Anyway, truth and I. So, yeah. Tell tell 181 00:06:25,089 --> 00:06:25,748 us the 182 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,113 gist of your part you have your blog 183 00:06:28,113 --> 00:06:29,647 post. It's just for the 184 00:06:30,198 --> 00:06:31,894 where we seem to be at a point 185 00:06:32,032 --> 00:06:32,851 in our, 186 00:06:33,707 --> 00:06:34,207 our 187 00:06:34,664 --> 00:06:38,892 social life. Mh. Where nobody believes anything anybody 188 00:06:38,892 --> 00:06:41,610 says anymore. And like these politicians come out 189 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:42,722 and say what they say. 190 00:06:43,358 --> 00:06:43,858 And 191 00:06:44,787 --> 00:06:47,273 a few people will follow them because they're 192 00:06:47,329 --> 00:06:47,829 followers 193 00:06:48,139 --> 00:06:50,132 Yep. But the majority of people present whether 194 00:06:50,132 --> 00:06:52,046 they're all liars on there. So they just 195 00:06:52,046 --> 00:06:54,279 lie. You know. But then when you you 196 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,555 get into it with them, they then say, 197 00:06:55,635 --> 00:06:57,403 well, you know, like, the managers of the 198 00:06:57,403 --> 00:06:59,572 same, you know, where I work and 199 00:06:59,946 --> 00:07:01,932 you. Yeah. What, the people do. You okay? 200 00:07:02,170 --> 00:07:04,872 Yeah. And all, or you got politics. You've 201 00:07:04,872 --> 00:07:07,056 got business, You got social media, 202 00:07:07,590 --> 00:07:10,056 and it's... And and the attitude since being 203 00:07:10,056 --> 00:07:11,329 loved everyone's just for a bullshit. 204 00:07:12,522 --> 00:07:14,290 You know, And they say you can't believe. 205 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:15,726 You know I was gonna say anything else 206 00:07:15,805 --> 00:07:17,719 Yeah. And you can't believe it. I don't 207 00:07:17,719 --> 00:07:20,191 know. We, you know, Our green party counselor. 208 00:07:20,351 --> 00:07:21,807 For those that don't know and 209 00:07:22,518 --> 00:07:24,032 we did a lot of campaigning price of 210 00:07:24,032 --> 00:07:26,421 the election in Be, and the new constituency 211 00:07:26,421 --> 00:07:27,616 of Broken head where we thought we had 212 00:07:27,616 --> 00:07:29,448 a semi decent chance of making a dent. 213 00:07:29,687 --> 00:07:30,961 You know. We came a strong second, by 214 00:07:30,961 --> 00:07:31,280 the way, 215 00:07:32,254 --> 00:07:34,814 greens, which is pretty cool. Exciting. Good. 216 00:07:35,935 --> 00:07:37,295 But, yeah. You know, when you're out and 217 00:07:37,295 --> 00:07:37,795 about 218 00:07:38,415 --> 00:07:40,588 local politics and national politics a bit different 219 00:07:40,588 --> 00:07:42,525 because... Yeah. Yeah. Your local counselor 220 00:07:43,223 --> 00:07:45,139 should be a bit more hands are and 221 00:07:45,139 --> 00:07:46,656 a bit more, you know, you, you know, 222 00:07:46,735 --> 00:07:48,572 every little hedge in every little pavement that 223 00:07:48,572 --> 00:07:49,584 needs fix it. And 224 00:07:51,215 --> 00:07:52,886 I feel like local counsel has perhaps have 225 00:07:52,886 --> 00:07:53,386 a 226 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,386 slightly better reputation in terms of, you know, 227 00:07:56,719 --> 00:07:57,993 trying to be out there and help in 228 00:07:57,993 --> 00:07:59,985 where I think can. Not all, but that's 229 00:07:59,985 --> 00:08:01,259 certainly we try and do. But, you know, 230 00:08:01,578 --> 00:08:03,113 They'll there'll be people that 231 00:08:03,649 --> 00:08:04,445 dislike me. And in fact, 232 00:08:06,854 --> 00:08:08,454 when I got elected, so we got a 233 00:08:08,454 --> 00:08:10,294 very good in my ward, we were the 234 00:08:10,294 --> 00:08:10,794 highest, 235 00:08:11,654 --> 00:08:13,415 polling candidates across all the world. 236 00:08:14,388 --> 00:08:16,535 But even that, I think it was 45 237 00:08:16,535 --> 00:08:17,194 percent turnout 238 00:08:17,648 --> 00:08:19,954 on for the local election of people that 239 00:08:19,954 --> 00:08:20,614 could vote, 240 00:08:21,465 --> 00:08:23,313 less than half did. And then of the 241 00:08:23,313 --> 00:08:24,031 people that did vote, 242 00:08:24,989 --> 00:08:25,888 maybe only 243 00:08:26,426 --> 00:08:29,060 30, 40 percent voted for for us or 244 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:31,350 50 percent. So, like, a quarter of the 245 00:08:31,788 --> 00:08:33,779 people who can vote in Bev, 246 00:08:34,416 --> 00:08:36,726 Did vote for us Mh for me, which 247 00:08:36,726 --> 00:08:37,226 isn't 248 00:08:37,682 --> 00:08:38,797 twin... It's not massive visit. 249 00:08:39,434 --> 00:08:41,842 But, I mean, yeah. So who knows what 250 00:08:41,842 --> 00:08:43,358 our reputation is a lot of people won't 251 00:08:43,358 --> 00:08:44,098 even know, 252 00:08:44,555 --> 00:08:45,593 that I exist. And, 253 00:08:46,152 --> 00:08:47,988 we were... I was away for the general 254 00:08:47,988 --> 00:08:50,789 election result night I was working down in 255 00:08:50,789 --> 00:08:52,717 exeter. So I was in a pub 256 00:08:53,090 --> 00:08:54,702 watching the exit poll 257 00:08:55,154 --> 00:08:57,297 with a load of academics just doing some 258 00:08:57,297 --> 00:08:57,774 work with them. 259 00:08:59,061 --> 00:09:00,995 So we went to the pub? And someone 260 00:09:01,291 --> 00:09:02,827 of our group went to the 261 00:09:03,601 --> 00:09:04,261 the bar 262 00:09:04,637 --> 00:09:05,911 staff and said, can you put the tele 263 00:09:05,911 --> 00:09:07,186 on so we can watch the big result? 264 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:08,259 Or 265 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,959 and but there was 2 or 3 members 266 00:09:10,959 --> 00:09:13,039 of the bar stuff and none of them 267 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:14,720 knew what we were talking about, Like, what 268 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,733 you mean? What results? And they were like, 269 00:09:17,133 --> 00:09:18,571 oh, we said up with the election, you 270 00:09:18,571 --> 00:09:20,409 know, a big the exit paul in 10 271 00:09:20,409 --> 00:09:22,326 minutes, and they were like, oh, is that 272 00:09:22,326 --> 00:09:22,566 today? 273 00:09:24,738 --> 00:09:27,216 Crazy Like, what what planet you living on 274 00:09:27,216 --> 00:09:28,814 and part of that is it's funny, but 275 00:09:28,814 --> 00:09:29,474 it's also, 276 00:09:30,332 --> 00:09:30,492 you know, 277 00:09:31,291 --> 00:09:32,670 maybe they don't have a hype 278 00:09:33,544 --> 00:09:35,142 reputation of politicians. But if you don't even 279 00:09:35,142 --> 00:09:37,380 know there's a woman election on. What right 280 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:38,759 do you do we have to 281 00:09:39,138 --> 00:09:41,716 complain about, you know, the lack of trust 282 00:09:41,775 --> 00:09:43,865 because off off people don't even know it's 283 00:09:43,865 --> 00:09:44,843 going up. And 284 00:09:45,221 --> 00:09:47,693 it's crackers. Crazy. So we got some work 285 00:09:47,693 --> 00:09:49,925 to do don't we? Yeah. To rebuild trust. 286 00:09:50,244 --> 00:09:50,404 Yeah. 287 00:09:52,014 --> 00:09:54,511 But but the idea about, and, 288 00:09:55,210 --> 00:09:57,287 if you're a young person, and you're brought 289 00:09:57,287 --> 00:09:58,965 up in a world the where you're told. 290 00:09:59,776 --> 00:10:03,190 That you can't actually believe anything anybody says. 291 00:10:03,508 --> 00:10:05,652 Mh. You know, what does that mean for 292 00:10:05,652 --> 00:10:08,193 teachers for... I mean, obviously, politicians. 293 00:10:08,922 --> 00:10:11,542 But do you assume everybody appears on the 294 00:10:11,542 --> 00:10:14,242 screen he's just talking Bullshit or... Yeah. I 295 00:10:14,242 --> 00:10:15,750 hope not because that's quite a poisonous thing 296 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:17,338 isn't it that can well it has been 297 00:10:17,338 --> 00:10:19,420 working way through society for a for a 298 00:10:19,420 --> 00:10:20,057 while and, 299 00:10:20,932 --> 00:10:21,648 it's not healthy. 300 00:10:22,205 --> 00:10:25,069 But what we've had some stunning examples. Someone, 301 00:10:25,228 --> 00:10:27,472 obviously, you got the putin's and people like 302 00:10:27,472 --> 00:10:29,940 that. But with Donald Trump. And it's like 303 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:32,488 all the legal technicalities around him. Yeah. And 304 00:10:32,488 --> 00:10:35,330 then what we we had Bo ourselves and 305 00:10:35,528 --> 00:10:37,748 all those interesting and things about party game 306 00:10:37,748 --> 00:10:40,048 and stuff like that. Yep. And and when 307 00:10:40,048 --> 00:10:42,268 you're in a situation where someone at that 308 00:10:42,268 --> 00:10:42,744 level, 309 00:10:43,473 --> 00:10:46,258 and we'll create a rule that you've gotta 310 00:10:46,258 --> 00:10:49,121 follow. Yeah. And they'll do exactly the opposite. 311 00:10:49,678 --> 00:10:49,917 You know, 312 00:10:50,568 --> 00:10:52,720 Can you believe people? Can you trust people? 313 00:10:53,916 --> 00:10:54,234 I know. 314 00:10:55,031 --> 00:10:57,263 We're living in times where we're talking about 315 00:10:57,263 --> 00:10:58,081 change and 316 00:10:58,711 --> 00:10:59,905 Yeah. For a lot of this stuff and 317 00:10:59,905 --> 00:11:02,531 people don't react well to change all that 318 00:11:02,531 --> 00:11:04,919 well often. And I guess, the tricky part 319 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:06,829 that we have now thinking environment is that 320 00:11:06,829 --> 00:11:08,513 we have to make a lot of change 321 00:11:08,513 --> 00:11:09,147 very quickly. 322 00:11:10,417 --> 00:11:13,297 Massive scale, you know, population level stuff. So 323 00:11:13,352 --> 00:11:16,074 but the problem that we have is that 324 00:11:16,304 --> 00:11:18,636 if we can't trust the people 325 00:11:19,091 --> 00:11:20,286 that are telling these things. 326 00:11:20,844 --> 00:11:22,357 How do we know what to do? Yeah. 327 00:11:22,915 --> 00:11:24,906 Especially if you're a younger person? 328 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:27,395 And someone saying, you know, we need to 329 00:11:27,395 --> 00:11:29,390 do this to say at the planet is 330 00:11:29,390 --> 00:11:30,588 the device in the back of your head 331 00:11:30,588 --> 00:11:32,264 thinking and us know, bubbles. I wonder know 332 00:11:32,264 --> 00:11:33,302 what they're gonna get out of it. 333 00:11:34,514 --> 00:11:37,055 And I mean, that's the problem. Mh. And 334 00:11:37,055 --> 00:11:38,722 and it's like, if you think about it, 335 00:11:39,675 --> 00:11:41,740 add all the public figures around. 336 00:11:42,629 --> 00:11:44,460 Who would you say? Well, yes, there were 337 00:11:44,460 --> 00:11:46,132 really trustworthy for only person. They're a good 338 00:11:46,132 --> 00:11:47,326 person. You could trust them? 339 00:11:48,043 --> 00:11:49,874 And I think that's quite hard at the 340 00:11:49,874 --> 00:11:50,272 moment. 341 00:11:51,004 --> 00:11:51,723 It it's tricky. 342 00:11:52,361 --> 00:11:54,357 I think it's probably overstated. You know, most 343 00:11:54,357 --> 00:11:56,672 folks that I meet within the council are 344 00:11:56,672 --> 00:11:58,109 pretty good on the whole. I've just had 345 00:11:58,109 --> 00:11:58,929 an email 346 00:11:59,706 --> 00:12:00,446 about some 347 00:12:00,757 --> 00:12:02,343 Tory who's trying to kick up a fuss 348 00:12:02,343 --> 00:12:03,295 about a cycle lane, 349 00:12:04,405 --> 00:12:05,381 so which is 350 00:12:06,625 --> 00:12:09,497 frustrating me somewhat. I need to formulated good 351 00:12:09,497 --> 00:12:09,894 response to that. 352 00:12:11,404 --> 00:12:12,993 Sorry to... But, you know, but I know 353 00:12:12,993 --> 00:12:15,377 it's pop very popular to Bash on tori 354 00:12:15,377 --> 00:12:17,379 now about geez, meant they're so annoying. Some 355 00:12:17,379 --> 00:12:18,200 of them. Yeah. 356 00:12:21,460 --> 00:12:23,379 Can you trust anything that they say. But 357 00:12:23,379 --> 00:12:25,139 that's all can I start it you say? 358 00:12:25,713 --> 00:12:27,707 Well for because we're rid of the tory 359 00:12:27,707 --> 00:12:28,744 now aren't we, you know, and that was 360 00:12:28,744 --> 00:12:31,376 a big part of the election for a 361 00:12:31,376 --> 00:12:32,573 lot of people when I was doing knocking, 362 00:12:32,732 --> 00:12:34,168 they just wanted to rid the tory, you 363 00:12:34,168 --> 00:12:36,251 know, whatever it took because like him or 364 00:12:36,251 --> 00:12:36,331 not. 365 00:12:37,521 --> 00:12:39,346 I think people just wanted a change. And 366 00:12:39,346 --> 00:12:41,170 in fact, that was the labour party. Name 367 00:12:41,250 --> 00:12:42,678 Motto was near a change. 368 00:12:44,122 --> 00:12:45,952 But it's changed gonna be enough because... Yeah. 369 00:12:46,191 --> 00:12:47,782 Okay. It's not just enough to get rid 370 00:12:47,782 --> 00:12:49,453 of someone else. You've gotta have your own 371 00:12:49,453 --> 00:12:50,089 vision in your own. 372 00:12:51,697 --> 00:12:53,930 And a lot of frustration for left leaning 373 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:55,844 folks the that the green party has been 374 00:12:55,844 --> 00:12:56,902 pulling in is that 375 00:12:58,077 --> 00:13:01,119 the labor message wasn't strong enough. And they're 376 00:13:01,119 --> 00:13:03,181 not gonna be delivering. They're not honest enough 377 00:13:03,181 --> 00:13:05,561 about the environment. They're not delivering enough change 378 00:13:05,561 --> 00:13:08,037 in terms of social justice and But but 379 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:10,423 it... If you look at the processes going 380 00:13:10,423 --> 00:13:12,491 across the world where the world is moving 381 00:13:12,491 --> 00:13:15,133 towards the right. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the 382 00:13:15,133 --> 00:13:17,289 kind of fascist thing that happened before the 383 00:13:17,289 --> 00:13:19,284 war. Yeah. Heard about that. Yeah. Yeah 384 00:13:20,083 --> 00:13:20,583 And 385 00:13:21,041 --> 00:13:22,477 when when when I look at, 386 00:13:24,088 --> 00:13:26,019 I don't know whether it was Far ar 387 00:13:26,075 --> 00:13:28,538 lot that did for the conservatives. He would 388 00:13:28,538 --> 00:13:31,732 claim it is. And his his voice saying 389 00:13:31,732 --> 00:13:33,803 we're gonna come out of the labour party 390 00:13:33,803 --> 00:13:34,121 next. 391 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:34,918 Now, 392 00:13:36,112 --> 00:13:38,899 if people believe raj because he makes a 393 00:13:38,899 --> 00:13:39,616 lot of noise. 394 00:13:40,188 --> 00:13:42,494 And could be more plausible than the others 395 00:13:42,494 --> 00:13:43,630 people like Kia 396 00:13:44,005 --> 00:13:46,867 required wouldn't Mh in their presentation. You know, 397 00:13:46,946 --> 00:13:49,093 does that mean that people will go with 398 00:13:49,093 --> 00:13:49,411 hours. 399 00:13:49,904 --> 00:13:52,065 Yeah. So we move further to the right. 400 00:13:53,024 --> 00:13:55,585 And and then Yeah. That creates the conflict. 401 00:13:55,745 --> 00:13:57,504 That creates wars to me. 402 00:13:58,318 --> 00:13:59,673 Historically when I look at it. Yeah. 403 00:14:00,550 --> 00:14:01,666 There's a show I need. I think it's 404 00:14:01,666 --> 00:14:03,339 only... I I play at the moment about 405 00:14:03,339 --> 00:14:05,173 the rise of the Nazis, and it's focusing 406 00:14:05,173 --> 00:14:07,416 it's focusing on that. 20 years before World 407 00:14:07,416 --> 00:14:10,197 or 2 kicked off period. I've been told 408 00:14:10,197 --> 00:14:11,787 to watch it because it's quite pre in 409 00:14:11,787 --> 00:14:13,058 terms of where we are at the moment. 410 00:14:13,217 --> 00:14:13,535 So... Yeah, 411 00:14:15,299 --> 00:14:16,838 you know, I'm not 1 of those kinda 412 00:14:16,977 --> 00:14:20,652 necessarily jumping on the Kia awful bandwagon. You 413 00:14:20,652 --> 00:14:22,270 know, He had a tactic. He worked 414 00:14:22,663 --> 00:14:24,810 can hopefully, you can stabilize things with his 415 00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:26,242 team. I think I think it it is 416 00:14:26,242 --> 00:14:28,390 down to everything that you set up at 417 00:14:28,390 --> 00:14:30,298 this point. Fabulous It's okay. What you're gonna 418 00:14:30,298 --> 00:14:32,777 do now. Yeah. I actually seeing what happens. 419 00:14:32,936 --> 00:14:34,684 And I only know that over time. Yeah. 420 00:14:34,843 --> 00:14:36,353 It's been felt quite interesting in the first 421 00:14:36,353 --> 00:14:38,260 few days since and the put appointments made 422 00:14:38,260 --> 00:14:40,182 in messaging that's been sent out. From my 423 00:14:40,182 --> 00:14:41,534 point of view, it's been okay. That's quite 424 00:14:41,534 --> 00:14:43,760 cool. Yeah. At least it seems sort of, 425 00:14:45,748 --> 00:14:47,736 like, the grown ups are in charge in 426 00:14:47,736 --> 00:14:49,486 some way. And Mh really interested that. 427 00:14:50,138 --> 00:14:50,457 Appointment. 428 00:14:51,174 --> 00:14:53,805 The prisons minister, mister Tim is it, the 429 00:14:53,805 --> 00:14:55,558 the businessman who owns Tim, 430 00:14:56,037 --> 00:14:57,312 you know, Cobb isn't and lung. 431 00:14:58,842 --> 00:15:00,996 He's... I don't... I didn't... Wasn't aware prior 432 00:15:00,996 --> 00:15:02,351 to it, but he's got quite an interesting 433 00:15:02,351 --> 00:15:04,266 in prison service and how we... 434 00:15:04,984 --> 00:15:06,999 I think that they actually Tim 435 00:15:07,376 --> 00:15:07,876 provide 436 00:15:09,385 --> 00:15:11,858 working, experiencing things for people coming out present? 437 00:15:12,177 --> 00:15:13,692 Yeah. I think they do a lot of 438 00:15:13,692 --> 00:15:14,591 that kind of 439 00:15:15,128 --> 00:15:16,962 some stuff. So he's talking a lot about 440 00:15:16,962 --> 00:15:17,680 he has in the past. 441 00:15:18,493 --> 00:15:19,927 About how he wants to reduce the pressure 442 00:15:19,927 --> 00:15:22,318 on the prisons by having fewer prisoners, you 443 00:15:22,318 --> 00:15:25,266 know, and not being so obsessed with punishments. 444 00:15:25,918 --> 00:15:26,474 And, you know, 445 00:15:27,188 --> 00:15:29,331 retribution against people over. It it interesting because 446 00:15:29,490 --> 00:15:31,553 I I worked in both the prison service 447 00:15:31,553 --> 00:15:34,092 and high security forensic psychiatry. 448 00:15:34,904 --> 00:15:37,141 And the amount of times, I would be 449 00:15:37,141 --> 00:15:40,018 in the prisons, and and the people that 450 00:15:40,018 --> 00:15:42,095 were in there inmates. Many of them were 451 00:15:42,095 --> 00:15:42,595 really 452 00:15:42,908 --> 00:15:43,408 psychiatric 453 00:15:43,863 --> 00:15:45,454 associations. There should have been in hospital not 454 00:15:45,454 --> 00:15:47,363 in prison. Yeah. I can't remember the proportion 455 00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:48,954 be. I think that's why he said roughly, 456 00:15:49,192 --> 00:15:50,957 a third people, are are in prison need 457 00:15:50,957 --> 00:15:53,024 to be in prison. You know? Another. Another 458 00:15:53,024 --> 00:15:55,489 nerds. Yeah. Need to be in some sort 459 00:15:55,489 --> 00:15:57,715 of health care, and then it third probably 460 00:15:57,715 --> 00:15:58,749 don't need to be in prison, and they 461 00:15:58,749 --> 00:16:00,837 can be out in society, you know, keep, 462 00:16:01,236 --> 00:16:03,551 being kept an eye on and Yeah. You 463 00:16:03,551 --> 00:16:05,387 know. But they're allowed to live with their 464 00:16:05,387 --> 00:16:07,224 kids and their families and their, Yeah. They're 465 00:16:07,224 --> 00:16:08,820 kept an eye on them looked after. A 466 00:16:08,820 --> 00:16:11,644 bit more. But but the amount of therapeutic 467 00:16:12,099 --> 00:16:14,487 need for people and prisons is huge. It's 468 00:16:14,487 --> 00:16:16,715 just not that. Mh. You know, and to 469 00:16:16,715 --> 00:16:19,117 be banged up, that 1 of the places 470 00:16:19,197 --> 00:16:20,791 I was, and they would bang the prisoners 471 00:16:20,791 --> 00:16:23,101 up for 23 hours a day. Mh. You 472 00:16:23,101 --> 00:16:25,093 know, they were allowed out to empty their 473 00:16:25,093 --> 00:16:25,730 toilet pots. 474 00:16:26,383 --> 00:16:28,237 And they were allowed out for an hour's 475 00:16:28,454 --> 00:16:30,526 exercise and to get their food. But I 476 00:16:30,526 --> 00:16:31,345 mean, effectively, 477 00:16:31,801 --> 00:16:33,647 that was it. Yeah. I guess that kind 478 00:16:33,647 --> 00:16:35,076 of... It was talk... I heard it talk 479 00:16:35,076 --> 00:16:36,983 about that culture of punishment in the Uk 480 00:16:36,983 --> 00:16:38,253 and how we're... We're a bit of obsessed 481 00:16:38,253 --> 00:16:40,477 on aren't we... You know the closest to 482 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:42,965 countries too about. Punishing people that do wrong, 483 00:16:43,125 --> 00:16:46,164 whether that's children being, you know, smack or 484 00:16:46,965 --> 00:16:49,538 or people that have, you know, committed crime 485 00:16:49,538 --> 00:16:51,852 being sent jail, you know, and serving their 486 00:16:51,852 --> 00:16:55,364 time rather than sometimes children don't respond well 487 00:16:55,364 --> 00:16:56,721 to being in hit a a lot of 488 00:16:56,721 --> 00:16:57,040 the time. 489 00:16:58,091 --> 00:17:00,719 Sometimes people that, I don't know, could stolen 490 00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:02,789 something, the the the best thing isn't for 491 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:03,983 them to go to jail. You're gonna make 492 00:17:03,983 --> 00:17:05,416 it you're gonna make the problem worse, You 493 00:17:05,416 --> 00:17:07,578 know? I I think that the question that 494 00:17:07,578 --> 00:17:08,555 we don't ask, 495 00:17:10,042 --> 00:17:11,949 and we don't ask for lots of of 496 00:17:11,949 --> 00:17:14,744 reasons, but it's like, when someone does something, 497 00:17:14,903 --> 00:17:16,569 We look at what they've done and we're... 498 00:17:16,807 --> 00:17:18,632 We we react to that rather than looking 499 00:17:18,632 --> 00:17:20,457 at why did they do it? Yeah. 500 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:23,343 What was it that led them doing that 501 00:17:23,343 --> 00:17:24,301 thing. Absolutely. 502 00:17:25,498 --> 00:17:28,073 And I'm not suggesting that we find excuses 503 00:17:28,131 --> 00:17:28,690 for people. 504 00:17:29,262 --> 00:17:31,750 But we might find reasons, which help us 505 00:17:31,806 --> 00:17:32,681 solve the problem. 506 00:17:33,237 --> 00:17:34,691 Hope so. Hopefully, we'll get 507 00:17:35,145 --> 00:17:37,132 about, you know, some deeper level of thinking. 508 00:17:37,450 --> 00:17:37,950 And 509 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:40,655 we're we're a strange little Island down for 510 00:17:40,655 --> 00:17:41,852 of fascinating people. 511 00:17:43,369 --> 00:17:43,848 And we'll see. 512 00:17:44,647 --> 00:17:45,844 But, yeah. Go back to the kind of 513 00:17:45,844 --> 00:17:48,101 mandate thing about my own story, but 514 00:17:48,574 --> 00:17:51,211 I mean Ke And his team and men 515 00:17:51,211 --> 00:17:51,691 and women, 516 00:17:52,490 --> 00:17:55,366 were, I think they got 36 percent of 517 00:17:55,366 --> 00:17:58,491 the votes and they but stick got 60 518 00:17:58,491 --> 00:17:59,842 percent of the seats. Thanks to our. 519 00:18:01,033 --> 00:18:02,623 Which, I mean, I'll be few and if 520 00:18:02,702 --> 00:18:04,212 I was a well, a green party. 521 00:18:05,102 --> 00:18:06,614 We got 8 percent of the vote, and 522 00:18:06,614 --> 00:18:08,842 we got, like, 1 percent of seats. So... 523 00:18:09,001 --> 00:18:11,149 And... But it's even more pre pronounced for 524 00:18:11,149 --> 00:18:12,079 reform who got 525 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,140 14, 15 percent and 5 seats. So 526 00:18:16,599 --> 00:18:18,940 Of... Our voting system and 527 00:18:19,414 --> 00:18:21,330 how we distribute the power is a bit... 528 00:18:21,649 --> 00:18:23,485 Did do you think that the first pass 529 00:18:23,485 --> 00:18:25,799 to post system doesn't work. Oh, and it 530 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:26,858 should be proportionate 531 00:18:27,556 --> 00:18:29,721 representation mean, it works for for a certain. 532 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,426 Do they delivers strong governments? Doesn't it a 533 00:18:32,426 --> 00:18:34,257 lot of the time. Mh. But, no. It's 534 00:18:34,257 --> 00:18:36,100 not fair. And I think we're 1 of 535 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:37,948 the only countries in the world that still 536 00:18:38,082 --> 00:18:40,381 stick cling onto to it. But we're won 537 00:18:40,381 --> 00:18:42,466 the only countries in the world that has 538 00:18:42,997 --> 00:18:45,327 seats that opposite each other in parliament and... 539 00:18:45,487 --> 00:18:47,405 Yeah. Most places are a whole show. Yeah. 540 00:18:47,645 --> 00:18:49,883 No. I think we needed fundamental restructure of 541 00:18:49,883 --> 00:18:51,641 and of that. And you wonder how that 542 00:18:51,641 --> 00:18:52,621 would impact on 543 00:18:53,652 --> 00:18:54,391 the public's 544 00:18:54,766 --> 00:18:57,867 perception of power and, you know, trust in 545 00:18:57,867 --> 00:18:58,822 poll in politicians. 546 00:18:59,458 --> 00:19:00,810 I don't. I mean, plenty of other the 547 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:01,788 countries have 548 00:19:02,575 --> 00:19:04,188 that, you know, a proportional 549 00:19:04,642 --> 00:19:07,185 system, but there's dis still hate politicians and 550 00:19:07,185 --> 00:19:08,162 politics and 551 00:19:08,616 --> 00:19:10,445 I I can remember going around the houses 552 00:19:10,445 --> 00:19:10,945 parliament 553 00:19:11,493 --> 00:19:11,993 and 554 00:19:12,527 --> 00:19:14,834 when I the answer. And it was the 555 00:19:14,834 --> 00:19:16,584 the red lines in front of each of 556 00:19:16,584 --> 00:19:18,254 the seats and saying to the the guy. 557 00:19:18,493 --> 00:19:20,576 What what those? And he said, those are 558 00:19:20,576 --> 00:19:22,587 the lines where you're not allowed to cross 559 00:19:23,042 --> 00:19:26,304 to separate the 2 2 boxes. So why 560 00:19:26,304 --> 00:19:28,783 do you separate Those lines are 2 so 561 00:19:28,783 --> 00:19:31,246 lengths apart. Oh yeah. So they couldn't kill 562 00:19:31,246 --> 00:19:32,994 each other. They run now to go that. 563 00:19:33,232 --> 00:19:33,470 Yeah. 564 00:19:34,757 --> 00:19:36,052 Which is a real kind of 565 00:19:36,586 --> 00:19:38,654 confrontation parliament. Isn't it... It is... Yeah. 566 00:19:40,006 --> 00:19:41,597 Yep. But we are where we are aren't 567 00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:43,124 me, but... I mean, is there hope you 568 00:19:43,124 --> 00:19:44,400 think in the coming years? Or do you 569 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,075 think can you see things just spiraling more 570 00:19:46,075 --> 00:19:48,229 and more out control? Or... I... What 1 571 00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:50,302 of my fears is that we go back 572 00:19:50,302 --> 00:19:52,536 into a third world war kind of scenario, 573 00:19:52,695 --> 00:19:54,378 which could be quite devastating. 574 00:19:55,171 --> 00:19:57,393 Yes. I would have thought so. Yeah. Because 575 00:19:57,393 --> 00:19:59,401 what... You know, if you forget the people 576 00:19:59,536 --> 00:20:01,147 and think of it of the weapons, 577 00:20:01,774 --> 00:20:04,406 and people pressing buttons. Mh. You know, what 578 00:20:04,406 --> 00:20:06,958 would be that far towards may be sane, 579 00:20:07,517 --> 00:20:09,989 but it may be a huge reduction in 580 00:20:09,989 --> 00:20:10,866 the population? 581 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:13,753 I don't know. I don't know. I yeah. 582 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:15,827 That should been a of very scary thought, 583 00:20:15,986 --> 00:20:18,060 but, I mean, But I I think that 584 00:20:18,060 --> 00:20:18,879 the more 585 00:20:19,257 --> 00:20:21,011 that people can tell the truth. 586 00:20:21,664 --> 00:20:23,744 And the more than people can believe that 587 00:20:23,744 --> 00:20:25,924 they're telling the truth then the more sanity 588 00:20:25,984 --> 00:20:27,025 we're gonna have. Yeah. 589 00:20:27,664 --> 00:20:29,640 And it... And that's the thing is that 590 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,680 I I suppose the issue is we talk 591 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,599 about wires and the wide lies and all 592 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:35,140 round kinds up. But it's like, 593 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:35,839 you know, 594 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,532 individually, are we all honest And if we're 595 00:20:39,532 --> 00:20:41,606 dishonest, are we dishonest because, 596 00:20:42,164 --> 00:20:44,238 we're trying to be nice to people? Yep. 597 00:20:44,557 --> 00:20:46,710 You know, it's like when your wife comes 598 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:48,385 down and says, what my bum look like 599 00:20:48,385 --> 00:20:49,991 and the this. Do you say it looks 600 00:20:49,991 --> 00:20:51,818 like it's gonna bought out the sun? Or 601 00:20:51,818 --> 00:20:54,282 do you say it looks absolute fabulous Okay? 602 00:20:54,441 --> 00:20:55,394 You know, what what do you say? 603 00:20:56,364 --> 00:20:58,039 Yeah. We've done... We have... I'll trying to 604 00:20:58,039 --> 00:20:59,794 link to some old shows where we've talked 605 00:20:59,794 --> 00:21:01,869 about truth and lies and Yeah. And from 606 00:21:01,869 --> 00:21:03,305 a more bike. Yeah. 607 00:21:04,432 --> 00:21:05,781 Relationship point of view that kind of. But, 608 00:21:05,861 --> 00:21:05,940 yeah, 609 00:21:06,972 --> 00:21:08,559 and I've talked as well about how it's 610 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:10,623 been fascinating in watching my kids grow older 611 00:21:10,623 --> 00:21:11,075 and 612 00:21:11,835 --> 00:21:13,694 how early in life they 613 00:21:14,075 --> 00:21:16,075 they kind of realize that you that you 614 00:21:16,075 --> 00:21:17,994 can tell little white lies to try and 615 00:21:17,994 --> 00:21:19,514 get away with something or to get your 616 00:21:19,514 --> 00:21:20,609 own way or 617 00:21:21,126 --> 00:21:22,103 you know, got 618 00:21:23,112 --> 00:21:24,780 my kids have got friends that live close 619 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:26,607 by, so you can see that sometimes they 620 00:21:26,607 --> 00:21:28,434 try and play parents off each other in 621 00:21:28,434 --> 00:21:29,125 terms of 622 00:21:30,198 --> 00:21:31,470 can I start? Can I sleep over a 623 00:21:31,470 --> 00:21:33,775 thing goes tonight? His mom said it alright, 624 00:21:34,013 --> 00:21:35,229 and then... But 625 00:21:35,842 --> 00:21:37,788 she actually hasn't maybe. But 626 00:21:38,163 --> 00:21:40,231 they we say that. Okay. If it's alright 627 00:21:40,231 --> 00:21:41,504 with them, tell them it's fine with us, 628 00:21:41,583 --> 00:21:42,617 and then they go back to the other 629 00:21:42,617 --> 00:21:45,337 parent and say, ed Edge mom, dad says 630 00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:47,167 it's fine to sleep over. Can we stay 631 00:21:47,167 --> 00:21:48,042 over tonight? And then... 632 00:21:49,314 --> 00:21:51,477 Yeah. And then he texted the pair iranian 633 00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:53,568 like, hang on They just... They've just completely 634 00:21:53,704 --> 00:21:54,204 done 635 00:21:54,738 --> 00:21:55,295 fair plate. 636 00:21:57,045 --> 00:21:59,528 But, yeah, kids kids learn stuff fairly early 637 00:21:59,528 --> 00:22:01,360 on. Don't think? But is that what we're 638 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,272 talking about? Who are they learning it from? 639 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:05,263 They've learning it from their friends? Okay? They're 640 00:22:05,263 --> 00:22:07,197 gonna learn it from? And 641 00:22:07,508 --> 00:22:08,304 their parents. 642 00:22:08,781 --> 00:22:10,373 Are they gonna learn it sort of siblings? 643 00:22:10,611 --> 00:22:12,601 Are they gonna learn it from the media? 644 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,908 Yeah. You know? Yeah. But they get lessons 645 00:22:14,908 --> 00:22:16,522 of being caught out as well on 646 00:22:16,911 --> 00:22:19,290 I think there was 1 when My son 647 00:22:19,290 --> 00:22:21,352 had just started to be... We've given him 648 00:22:21,352 --> 00:22:22,542 a bit more freedom to go out on 649 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:24,779 his bike and, you know, it's be a 650 00:22:24,779 --> 00:22:26,937 bit further afield, and we'd asked him where 651 00:22:26,937 --> 00:22:27,677 he'd been 652 00:22:28,216 --> 00:22:29,335 because we were a bit suspicious. 653 00:22:30,613 --> 00:22:32,132 And he said. I've just been around it. 654 00:22:32,371 --> 00:22:33,650 So it's so his house not far. 655 00:22:34,944 --> 00:22:36,622 And my mom had been out in her 656 00:22:36,622 --> 00:22:39,100 car and seen, like, him quite far from 657 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:41,497 home, busted, you know, I was quite proud 658 00:22:41,497 --> 00:22:42,776 of him actually because he was being God. 659 00:22:42,936 --> 00:22:43,675 He was looking 660 00:22:44,229 --> 00:22:45,828 stopped across the road and all that. But 661 00:22:45,828 --> 00:22:47,905 he can't much further than than he was 662 00:22:47,905 --> 00:22:49,743 allowed to. And we were we busted rumble 663 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:51,102 them, and it was fun and then kinda 664 00:22:51,102 --> 00:22:51,602 watching 665 00:22:52,061 --> 00:22:53,440 she realized we knew 666 00:22:53,832 --> 00:22:55,974 where he'd been spotted and him trying to 667 00:22:55,974 --> 00:22:57,323 backtrack and get out of it. You know, 668 00:22:57,481 --> 00:22:57,981 sometimes 669 00:22:58,592 --> 00:22:59,488 politicians are 670 00:23:00,258 --> 00:23:02,022 grown up get caught out. Don't they we 671 00:23:02,022 --> 00:23:03,931 can, tell him little white lies, and then 672 00:23:03,931 --> 00:23:05,147 it's fascinating watching 673 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,612 the kinda of lies and unravel and, 674 00:23:08,163 --> 00:23:08,961 I was just doing this 675 00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:11,832 Didn't mean to us. So... Yeah. Yeah. We 676 00:23:11,832 --> 00:23:14,943 learn the consequences doing. Yeah. It and it's 677 00:23:14,943 --> 00:23:16,936 interesting for me having worked in the Middle 678 00:23:17,016 --> 00:23:17,256 East. 679 00:23:18,787 --> 00:23:21,340 And the example always was. I heard it 680 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:23,973 said those times. You could leave your phone 681 00:23:23,973 --> 00:23:25,010 on the park bench. 682 00:23:26,142 --> 00:23:27,657 And come back in 2 hours, and it 683 00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,970 would still be there because the people didn't 684 00:23:29,970 --> 00:23:30,289 seal. 685 00:23:30,927 --> 00:23:31,427 And 686 00:23:32,522 --> 00:23:34,696 terms of, like, that level honesty 687 00:23:35,326 --> 00:23:36,837 what they would say is the reason they 688 00:23:36,837 --> 00:23:38,506 didn't steal was that if they didn't, they 689 00:23:38,506 --> 00:23:40,335 got caught, they get their hand cut off. 690 00:23:40,573 --> 00:23:43,290 Yeah. Therefore they didn't do it. Lots a 691 00:23:43,290 --> 00:23:45,379 different kind of, yeah, punishment 692 00:23:46,309 --> 00:23:49,009 around it. Okay. But but but that that 693 00:23:49,009 --> 00:23:51,313 idea about, you know, you you you were 694 00:23:51,313 --> 00:23:53,477 saying earlier on about how we can be 695 00:23:53,477 --> 00:23:54,994 quite strict about things. 696 00:23:55,712 --> 00:23:58,606 Is it that if you have that strict 697 00:23:58,745 --> 00:24:01,790 that people do comply? Yeah. Know noble that's 698 00:24:01,790 --> 00:24:03,303 again as matt as a fair... That's an 699 00:24:03,303 --> 00:24:06,010 awful fourteenth and even contemplate like. That's another 700 00:24:06,010 --> 00:24:07,364 way of doing it. And, you know, it's 701 00:24:07,364 --> 00:24:08,718 1 way of getting results, I guess, isn't 702 00:24:08,718 --> 00:24:10,568 it, But Yeah. It'd be interesting to see 703 00:24:10,568 --> 00:24:11,607 if we go down that roots in the 704 00:24:11,846 --> 00:24:13,205 Uk. It doesn't look like it at the 705 00:24:13,205 --> 00:24:15,043 moment at least, but maybe Yeah. Who knows 706 00:24:15,043 --> 00:24:15,842 what the future holds. 707 00:24:16,641 --> 00:24:17,141 Of 708 00:24:17,933 --> 00:24:19,365 Okay. You've you got anything to sum up 709 00:24:19,365 --> 00:24:20,717 with then? Or do you wanna... No. No. 710 00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:22,944 I mean, I I think that, 1 thing 711 00:24:22,944 --> 00:24:24,670 that we're gonna know about 712 00:24:25,348 --> 00:24:27,502 our current set of politicians, or there any 713 00:24:27,502 --> 00:24:30,055 different any the others is that let's see 714 00:24:30,055 --> 00:24:31,730 whether they are people of their word. 715 00:24:32,383 --> 00:24:34,136 And they actually do what they say. Yeah. 716 00:24:34,295 --> 00:24:35,570 I've been seeing a lot of interviews with 717 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:37,004 the fresh batch, A lot of them are... 718 00:24:37,402 --> 00:24:39,409 Yeah. I think there's about 300 brand new 719 00:24:39,648 --> 00:24:41,720 Mps or something like that. Yeah. Way more 720 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,336 than usual. So there's a lot of old 721 00:24:43,792 --> 00:24:45,785 experience gone actually, which is interesting, and then 722 00:24:45,785 --> 00:24:47,082 there's a lot of fresh faced 723 00:24:47,951 --> 00:24:50,020 folks that hopefully, will bring new ideas and 724 00:24:50,020 --> 00:24:50,657 energy. Mh. 725 00:24:51,214 --> 00:24:52,965 And it'll be interesting to see how they've 726 00:24:52,965 --> 00:24:55,288 built up against the system, which is you 727 00:24:55,288 --> 00:24:57,273 know, from experiences a local council that can 728 00:24:57,273 --> 00:24:59,417 be quite frustrating. Yep. Because you come up 729 00:24:59,417 --> 00:25:01,403 against these rules and these... I we can't 730 00:25:01,403 --> 00:25:03,150 do that yet. Oh, no. We not gonna 731 00:25:03,150 --> 00:25:05,152 take years to do that any night. What? 732 00:25:06,504 --> 00:25:08,095 Hopefully, they can break through some of that 733 00:25:08,095 --> 00:25:10,083 and, you, push things on. So I wish 734 00:25:10,083 --> 00:25:12,410 them well. Yeah. Those and I think that 735 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:14,410 the other thing is maybe we need some 736 00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:15,789 listen to ourselves 737 00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:18,410 and be honest with ourselves. Yep. 738 00:25:19,463 --> 00:25:20,597 And my my 739 00:25:21,762 --> 00:25:23,585 results for the week is is going read 740 00:25:23,585 --> 00:25:26,439 19 84. This is Joel Joel well. Yep. 741 00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:27,890 Classic. Yeah. 742 00:25:28,849 --> 00:25:30,529 And I think that does tell us a 743 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:33,569 lot about us now. Yep. Mh Mh. I'll 744 00:25:33,569 --> 00:25:35,329 over read up for a long time. So 745 00:25:35,409 --> 00:25:36,049 I'll have a look at that. 746 00:25:37,183 --> 00:25:38,061 Okay. Cool. Happy. 747 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,616 I'm always happy. It's my middle name. Alright 748 00:25:40,616 --> 00:25:42,372 right now am I telling this through. Oh, 749 00:25:42,931 --> 00:25:45,107 0, yeah. Your eyes say something different 750 00:25:47,168 --> 00:25:48,913 Alright. I'll see you next week. Okay. Take 751 00:25:48,913 --> 00:25:49,864 care. Bye. See you.