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Okay. Hello. Welcome to episode 517
of the self help podcast with me Ed
and the good pal, Shaun Off. How are
you doing, shaun?
I'm surviving.
I've had the dr to Covid.
Gonna say you got me doing better than
just surviving. We've got a aim higher than
that haven't.
Yeah. Was Does that? Fourth or fifth go
around full time. As far as you know,
but... Yeah. It hits you pretty hard on
it. You go
it it's tends to.
But if you look at the research on
blood types,
o is the most
sustainable
against
infections like this. And the 1 that's affected
most is a,
makes you most vulnerable. And right. Guess what
I am. I'm an a. A okay.
Oh, not.
Okay. Not okay. Interesting.
Yeah.
Gosh. Yeah. Yeah You've been here again. I
mean, I've had it officially. I've had it
once.
But I only I only found that out
because my... 1 of my son... My... 1
of my kids at it and couldn't go
to school this is a years ago.
And I realized I've got it as well,
but I didn't have any effects at also.
I've heard recently though it just locally other
people Yeah
coming back up. Yeah.
I mean, in most people's minds,
it's over in it, and and maybe now
is in in a sense that most people
aren't even testing anymore. I'm sure. Yeah. Where
we went to a a comedy show,
and
Robert and I, and we both got it
after that, but we know other people that
got there as well. Yeah. So... Taylor Swift
and all that been going on locally in
it. Yeah. There must have been might a
super spreader in there somewhere.
Gosh.
Yeah. Interesting. Well, I mean,
this the this... It's not... Interestingly, it's not
an election issue at all in terms of
Covid... The Covid being mentioned in terms of
something that we've been through that's been ghana
and it has had left a bit
left an economic legacy,
but we'll talk about we're gonna talk today
about politics and the election and, yeah.
It's interesting that Covid
in terms of like, managing it in keeping
people healthy isn't isn't on the agenda at
the moments. Mh.
Because it's yeah. It's... Very recent history, but
it people are quite good at kind of
maybe for the... In some ways, this is
a good thing. Like
can't hold on not holding on it too
much and getting on with it things. Yeah.
And the... And the thing is that... Yeah.
I gave. I just had a boat belt
of of Covid. But if I said,
I have the flu. Would that be that'd
be normal. Look Yeah.
Yeah. It's true. Yeah. I know.
Yeah. Jury is out on that 1, But
Oh Yeah. So we're we're gonna talk today
about the election... I'm not exactly sure the
general election that is. I'm not exactly sure
whether this is gonna go out
before.
Or just after.
So I think we'll just try and pitch
it just in kind general terms around mh,
how it's been for the Uk and then
run up to it and Yeah. And what
the fallout was gonna be of a potential
results. I mean, yeah. I'm record... We're recording
this job about a week before
Yep, you know, all the poles as they
have done for
quite a while and looking like making it
look like labor, gonna get a massive majority.
Reform are coming up quite strong at the
moment. So I think they're actually pulling higher
than the conservatives. So. The fallout of that
is gonna be anything...
Do you think that the polls
affect people? Oh,
yeah. I think they do... Actually, I was
chatting to someone about this last night about
how we shouldn't just be, like, assuming that
labor are gonna win because
even if they are, it it doesn't it
doesn't sit well with people or, it might
make people
think I'm more a,
like, oh,
I won't bother the vote then because it's
a done deal. Isn't it? Mh. Whereas, you
know, if millions of people do that. Then,
yeah, I guess what or some in some
weird might happen. Mh. And where we are
in in my constituency, which is a new
1 called Broken head.
The greens are given it a good old
go as I've been sort of playing my
little passing, and there we need our our,
our supporters is to, mh. Get out and
and vote out see how we can do.
I I think that's 1 of things that
the I learned as a kid.
My my parents were,
labor activists,
so lots of,
of things on the council they ran from
our house. So it was election time. Yeah.
And and the local
mp would always visit our house. At that
had time. There's all going on. Okay. And
And
was it Ag Alex Douglas Hu.
Maybe, yeah, he he visited the at 1
point.
But the
the the 1 things I always have had
drum into me is the
you cannot not vote.
It... Even even if you were to go
to the the voting,
booth and spoil your paper.
At least you've done it. Yeah. Because it's
so important that we don't and we don't
just sit back. Exactly. And then nothing about
it afterwards
Yeah.
Absolutely. I Know will,
we'll see general election turnout outs tend to
be relatively higher, like, as in, like, 65,
70 percent. I think
local elections lower. You know, I think when
I got elected the turnout out was my
board was 45
percent. Mh. Which was above the actual average
for local elections. So
yeah. Yeah. You know, It's hard getting hit
dragging people out and, you know, I think
postal votes have already, to arrive for some
people where we are. I've just applied for
1 because
I'm gonna be away for the election itself.
I'm doing away doing some work. Doctor So
I'm hoping my postal vote will come soon.
Yeah.
But it's been really
interested being a local counsel and out I'm
being involved.
In the campaign work for, a general election.
Mh. Hard work, you know? It's not easy,
knocking on doors and getting
leaflets out and organize organizing it also So
I've been loosely involved in the organization if
at all and just watching from. Yeah. Yeah.
Todd work though. So mh fair play for
whichever. Party you're you're into or you happen
to represent.
If you're getting stuck in and you're doing
some campaign and then,
good on, generally.
It it's interesting for me because as a
child,
left and right were very clear. Now either
you were labor or you were conservative.
You know, you a socialist or a capitalized.
And it all seems sort of blur together.
Mh. To the point where people say to
me, don't know to vote for anymore. Yep.
You know, there is that kind of fading
whereas when people are extremist.
And you're voting for the extreme is really
clear about what you're doing and what I
know you're voting for,
you know, where I suppose like, people like
Far,
s his mouth off. Mh. You know, people
that are of that il are gonna go
towards him. Yep his speaking sentence. Yeah. Yeah
saying you know. That's right.
Yeah. And it weirdly, you know, the green
part you're are now kind of behind in
that space on the left. You know there's
lots of... Lot lots of labor members,
you know, the Jeremy Corbyn
Brigade have
I've found a home in the greens, which,
you know, that's not I didn't really get
into politics
for that... That those kind of reasons. Mh.
I'm board like the climate guy. But. It's
been really interesting like getting to know a
new
gang of people Yeah that find found a
home in the greens. And hopefully they're learning
stuff from
from, you know, what I'm talking about and
that kind of thing and we can but,
yeah, It's weird a self in like quite
left wing party.
And
almost bikes accident really. But
Generally, loads of good people, You know, wanting
in wanting a good wanted to do good
work. Yeah.
Yeah. I
I hear lots of people. I'm obviously by
virtue of what I do people talk to
me about it, and people feeling dis franchise
and stuff like that. But 1 of the
things that really makes me laugh
is our
attitude towards capitalism
because
Car
is about making money out people. Mh yeah.
And the people you made the money from
or the candle photo that you
you use to
get your josh.
But when people do capitalist things,
people are surprised and horrified. So we have
the thing
where,
people
people from the conservative party who knew when
the election was going to be put bets
in. Yeah. Because they knew they'd make money
articles of. Yeah. Now and everyone's surprised and
shocks and horrified, but that's capitalism.
It's inside of trading.
You know, inside the trading is working on
what you know. Yep. Yeah. And people say
it's Rob, you shouldn't do inside of trading,
but that's how capitalism work.
Or... Yeah. At least that's 1 of the
the things you expect you should expect to
see and not. That'll be too surprised. Yeah
Yeah. Was the same way in the brexit
thing happened wasn't it Brexit broke because I
think there was
bets placed,
you know, against the
English or british economy,
knowing you're assuming that Brexit might happen and
then lo and behold. So betting against your
country
to make make a loaded dash.
Yeah yeah.
And then being surprised that people might have
done that. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Yeah.
Book. Nothing I... It's almost as though we
expect people to act like saint when they
actually act like people.
Yeah. Yeah. And and it's realizing where their
motivations are,
you know, and and when you look at
someone life out for our shouting is his
mouth off. How much of that is about
me me, look at me aren't anti lovely,
you know, tell me, I'm great. Yeah. How
much of it is about? I want to
do this for you and to help you
and
No.
Yeah.
I mean, Far is just an interesting case.
I can't some reason a video of his
popped up on my Youtube feed yesterday, and
it was way back in 2005
and him in the European
parliament.
Going up against Tony Blair who at that
point was... I think he must have been
doing his Stint as the president of the
European Union or something, So.
It was far versus
Tony Blair, Quite useful looking nigel far ferrari.
But I mean,
in his mind, and, you know, in it
Tony Blair, kind of 18 for breakfast. Mh.
But it was quite kind of weird watching
this, which was 10 years, 11 years before
Brexit. Mh.
The confidence of Tony Blair and, you know,
watching it in Hindsight is like, well, far
large 1
in the end So we're all, the booster
and the.
Confidence of
someone like Tony Blair. You know.
Far ferrari 8. I'm I do worry about
In the sense that years a bit he's
easy to mock.
And take the mess the the piss off,
but,
it doesn't represent the views of a good
lot big chunk of people, you know.
So don't like, don't don't... Right. I... I'm
happy to mock him as well, but also
just keep on eye him because he's he's
smarter than he looks, you know. Yeah. But
that's cost. And and the thing is that
when people have power,
which is what they get when they they
win the things like this. Is that that
it it
amplifies who they are. Now. Yep. In terms
the volume well. Yes. So,
I mean, whoever we get
is going to be interesting because they're gonna
have interesting issues to deal with. Not, I
mean, you got all the expansive stuff like
put and Ukraine and all that which is
ongoing. Yep. And it's gonna be a real
part of our everyday lives eventually. Mh.
Indeed Yeah. And,
well, we've come through Covid. We've got this
global instability stuff going on, Gaza. We're still,
you know, a terrible situation, and we have
well.
We've got a
potential in likely new prime minister.
Coming in who's very very nervous and shy
about saying anything remotely,
you know,
exciting or anything to rock the boat too
much. So
at a time when the Uk kind of
feels like it needs a real. Kick up
the backside and en.
It doesn't seem like we're gonna get
we're get that.
It's very much kinda like, we'll just we'll
dig go away out of this whole slowly
surely. That's not doing anything too. Because exactly
it's got be like tread water them. Yeah.
Which and it seems to me like people
need a bit of
a bit of woo. As sean might say?
Yeah. Yeah. You do. There yeah dude. Yeah
there's...
Needs to be a bit of fire.
You know.
But it like I say, the 1 that
my...
Apprehension is that that fire comes from abroad.
Like if you do end up in a
conflict with putin, it will bring people together.
People will make all kinds of breakthroughs and
discoveries because of that, but it's not the
right kind of motivation really? Yeah.
The you know, and bring it back down
to home a little bit with the stuff
we talk about on this show about human
flourishing or not even that. Just human kind
of just a basic need for simplicity and
connection with your neighbors and looking after its
friends and family.
There's there's not even that kind of sense
of messaging from the big leg parties, like,
looking out for each other and I was
actually really impressed with the
liberal Democrats, early stuff And when their campaigns
been quite cool and Ed Davey is the
leader. Yeah.
It's just been... Seems to be having a
lot of fun. Mh. You know, and the
stuff he's been doing and it... He did
a really good... Might be the best campaign
video I've ever seen actually of his
he's he's a... Cara for his son. It's
got son that's got, you know, is disabled,
and real kind of
educational needs.
And he he told his story about, kind
of
how he looks after his son how he
built it into his life. I don't know
if you've seen it yet.
But a really powerful emotional story, and it
was about care, You know, and it was
to tried to tell the wider story about,
okay. Yeah. I need to look after and
care for my son.
In amongst being an Mp and potentially, you
know, a party leader,
potential prime minister. Mh.
But he was talking more widely about how
we need to look after each other. Mh.
And I thought that was a really powerful
message. You know. Mh. And 1 that, I
don't know why more people aren't telling the
story, you know goes specific. So the the
stupidity is that if the all learned on
the laboratory show, the majority of the world's
populations would disappear us straight away. My that
gone. Yeah.
Yeah.
Mad. Yeah. It's just a simple story of
caring. You know? Or no. Yeah. No. I
can see not the window now, but usually
my
On of my elderly neighbors, she will like...
She requires a lot of care at the
moment
pharmacists and people come a few times a
day to check on her.
And family as well. And then
at the weekend, something seemed to happen. The
front door was open and, you know, neighbors
were going in and out, and, we know,
we were rest if she's alright. We could
help. And we we were all looking out
for. You know? Mh.
And I'm sure that kind of thing does
go out and around the country, but it's
not a message you you see too much.
In politics, you know, and that, Bit more
a positive. Yeah. Simple message. Yeah. The the
main the main messages I mean my must
have now.
So isn't that seems to be it. Yeah.
In most cases. It does... Yeah. And it's
all about
economic growth and getting the economy going and
don't know jobs jobs jobs, which is important.
I'm not dismissing that entirely, but
I don't know. Should we be... Yeah. Working.
We've talked about this in the past what
what does a... What is a good job
for someone You know,
jobs can take many forms. You don't even
get paid for certain jobs do eat to
something that you do as part of your
everyday life.
Looking after a little cooper here, making sure
he's
well fed and watered and well rested.
That's a full time job. Is that a
hard life isn't?
No.
So, yeah, I don't know it's gonna be
an interesting.
Period for the Uk, we readjust as it
and m.
Yeah.
And the
the the thing that people were going on
about this morning when I was in the
jail was
about,
Vat being put on school phase for private
schools.
Yeah. And and that was signal was like
a a major disaster.
Alright. By who? By someone that was on.
But the... Well,
the the implication of the... Because there a
lot of interviewers
they really want to poke person their interviewing.
And and I think, what earth is the
point of this. You're not getting information. You're
getting reactions.
Know.
But they were saying, no. So you're gonna
make it so difficult for people, so pay
for their kids to go to school, you
know, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And
if you wanna send because private school. It's
like private medicines Isn't it if you can
do it help yourself, but lot of us
come. You know?
Yeah. Won't somebody think of the privately
educated children.
Yeah. That's not something too up to speed
done, but...
It it is interesting. Yeah. That... I've I've
done a bit of local media for local
issues.
And that's part of the problem. I think
the kind of media landscape is is is
always looking for
controversy and,
you know, is that kinda sound by.
This person said that. Let's jump on them.
You know, so.
Maybe it's part of the whole cancel the
culture stuff, but... But it's it's like
the good news newspaper that does exist.
But it's, like, maybe we should have a
good news,
news cost as well. Yep. You know, what's
the good news today? Yeah. Instead of till
just before the weather, that happy happy news
story? It's like, yeah. Why? Don't we focus
on that stuff a bit more?
Yeah. I know. I'm not sure
it's possible even, but
I know the good news. Is it the
good... Is it the good news or
the website
good news dot something. I'll link it the
show. Yeah. There is a good news newspaper.
Yeah. And action for happiness. We're trying eat,
you know, You know, So there are
organizations out there that are trying trying desperately,
but Yeah. It's just Europe against such massive
forces aren't you Yeah.
That it's hard, you know, and, you know,
a lot of the time I'll be doing
in in news articles around sustainable transport locally.
I'll be asked for a quote.
Yeah. But, you know, the the article will
be surrounded by adverts for, like, pickup trucks
and Suvs and,
cheap flights abroad that we shall be doing
10 to 15 times a year.
It's cheaper. You know, a flight to
a ibiza through as cheaper than a train
a train journey to?
Ba for the day or something like that,
So yeah. What can you do against all
this master
mound of Yeah. Of financing and funding and
Yeah.
Advertising.
But then it equally so. It's like
the the people have been spraying
stone and... Oh, yeah. Airplanes Comes boil. Yeah
yeah. But it's like
and this is 1 of the things the...
Because I actually did this back along and
they would have been in the Aces 1.
But we actually had a group of people
that were into the, you know, you can't
do this. You can't do that. You can't
do the other. Kind of thing with fear.
And then it was okay, How did you
get here?
Yeah. What are you wearing?
Yeah. Do you realize that your glasses is
the phrase actually made out of plastic. Do
you know where that comes from?
Do you know Mean it's impossible to be
perfect? Isn't it? And
I don't know. I've managed the most of
How did you get it here? Where's is
your re bike? I flew.
Yeah. Well, I know we've just... Well, we've
just booked a holiday to create, and was
the first time we'll be on a flight
for a couple of years, and I kind
of
console myself
an and a supposed environmental list by the
fact that, you know, we can't be perfect.
And when you've got Taylor Swift,
who's using a private jet to go and
get a pint of milk most
every day.
You know,
Whilst we're well, Plugging away, you know, it's
cycling everywhere as I can,
whacked in a heat pump. So we're off
gas completely now which 2 tons of Co2
from our household emissions gone. You know, in
the last year,
trying as hard as we can. Doesn't need...
We don't need to be perfect. We just
need
to do our bit, and we need the
super rich, mh.
Who are just acting like they don't give
a shit
to do an awful lot more yeah, I
try not to put too much
pressure on myself, you,
and, you know, my fellow suburban nights around
here to not be too perfect. As long
as we're making a decent amount of efforts
and you've got a plan to get off
your gas boiler and you.
Reduce your reliance on your cars a little
bit in the next few years. Mh. That's
alright, you know. Mh. Have the odd flight
ear and there. Don't worry about it too
much.
But Taylor Swift, you've you're listening
Yeah. You. Try and rain it in as
well. You know, trains do exist and you
can. You could... I don't know You could...
Yeah. And you can't get you may delivered.
Yeah. Yeah. You could've have stayed near and
near ant field instead of getting a helicopter
to to and from
stoke or whoever you were staying to do
your Uk stuff. You know, just just try
a little bit harder would you just stir
as a favor.
Maybe if they could have run the helicopter
around cooking oil.
Maybe
sustainable aviation fuel there has, some clever buds
working on that kind of stuff as well.
Yeah. See all that pans out. Yeah. Get
all deficient chip shops, collect the aisle. Yeah.
There you go. Eat more chips. There you
going?
Sustainable farming.
Cool. So, yeah. I mean, what do we
say to the folks out there that kind
of...
There's gonna be a lot of unhappy people
as in... With elections in the the process
in the Uk.
I mean, we might be in position where
reform, Uk have got 20 percent of the
vote chair, but maybe maybe only 1 or
2 Mps, which in in its itself is
a real and injustice really. Yeah. Same with
the green. But you know, that's the first
part the post. That's how it works. Yeah.
Yeah. So
what do we say to the folks who
are feeling dis in there in the in
the fall.
I think that the
principle
about life and living and being a human
being
comes down to
it is not what happens is how you
respond to it.
Yeah. And and that's the issue is that
it's like a football matches is that there's
going to be an amount of people who
are really fed up after of football match.
Yep. Yeah. But what do you do with
that? Mh. Yeah.
And and that it's the same thing in
every part of life?
And, yes,
you're not perfect. This election might be perfect.
And we're gonna have to learn
from it and then to deal with it.
Yep. So isn't a lot happens out as
why Next And how do we deal with
or what do we do? Yeah. Yeah. Well,
there'll be people even before the election campaign
in book preparing for the result and ready
getting ready to go again in the same
way they've got a
major football tournament on at the moments, and
it's unlikely that England will win, maybe they
will.
We tend not doing these things as history
has shown. I know you know it's what,
32 teams or something like that. Only 1
will win. Yeah. You know? What do you
do after a football on them, and you
kinda regroup. Don't you? You maybe
change your stuff a little bit or you
just kinda go back to the drone board
and you get ready for the next 1?
You know? It happens every 2 years. But
if you think about sport generally,
it's about
disappointed people. 9 people run a race.
Only 1 person wins 8 people have pissed
off. Yep.
Didn't know. It's like, it at the old
about happiness through sport team ring low to
me. Mh. Unless you unless you this was
just going for the a run for the
father it. Yeah.
Yeah I think it depends, you know, I
think
There are ways to take happiness in up
when in Roger Black mister Famous 400 me
to renault who knew he could not beat
Michael Johnson back in the nineties.
Johnson was just,
you know, this superstar un unacceptable,
The guy. So for him, gold was was
silver, which he said,
in an in before and after the race
and he got silver. He came second so
I was do. And for him that was
his gold medal because he just knew he
couldn't beat this guy.
So, you know, for some people get into
the final lever race or just get into
a tournament,
is a big... Think that if you're gonna
do 05:10,
half marathon and whatever. It's like getting to
the end, getting to get through the ribbon
at the end is is enough, you know.
Yeah.
In the poll political sense, I went into
other things last night,
and
it was focused on climate and nature put
on by local charity. Yeah.
You know, and there was folks there from
Freedom Alliance and
workers party,
labor and conservative didn't send a representative
lip ends, greens were there as well.
But, you know, I just had respect for
people that were brave enough to show up
and sit in front of a you know,
a big room full of people asking questions,
Mh. Especially the
freedom alliance, actually, who are quite... They don't
believe in climate change, you know, they They
kinda don't think we should be doing any
of this stuff,
which... Yeah. I'm at the office end. But
I had respectful for them for showing up
Yeah. And taking part, You know? And that's
that's democracy in it and that's... Yep. Sometimes
you just got show up and having have
a go. Even if you know you're gonna
get beaten.
So, yeah. Labor and conservative, what are you
playing not even mh brave enough to come
along or take the time and to speak
to people really strange, but.
Yeah. All scared or do you.
I know saying the wrong thing and Yeah.
It being... Yeah. Ending up on social media.
Who knows? Anyway?
Alright for now. Yeah. That's good. So we'll
re we'll regroup. The next 1 we record,
I think we'll be after the election and
we'll
we'll see where the Uk is and whether...
What the way forward is, but it's gonna
be an interest few weeks in it. Yeah?
And and my results depending on, obviously when
went out, but my results would be,
make sure you vote? Yes. Don't waste, do
it.
Yeah. Yeah. And if this has gone out
after, and you haven't voted.
Make sure you vote... Next time. Yeah. Don't
beat yourself up. Yeah. But, yeah, next time,
give it a go get involved. Mh. At
very least put a little x next to
someone.
Or
scribble all over it, you know, none of
the above that kind of thing Yeah. Yeah.
But take part. You're all bonkers. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. But is that is
participation. Yes.
Yep. Alright. Cool. Thanks sean. Thank you. See
you on the other side. Yes. Keep smiling.
Alright. See you.