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Okay. Hello. Welcome to episode 517

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of the self help podcast with me Ed

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and the good pal, Shaun Off. How are

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you doing, shaun?

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I'm surviving.

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I've had the dr to Covid.

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Gonna say you got me doing better than

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just surviving. We've got a aim higher than

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that haven't.

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Yeah. Was Does that? Fourth or fifth go

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around full time. As far as you know,

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but... Yeah. It hits you pretty hard on

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it. You go

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it it's tends to.

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But if you look at the research on

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blood types,

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o is the most

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sustainable

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against

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infections like this. And the 1 that's affected

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most is a,

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makes you most vulnerable. And right. Guess what

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I am. I'm an a. A okay.

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Oh, not.

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Okay. Not okay. Interesting.

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Yeah.

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Gosh. Yeah. Yeah You've been here again. I

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mean, I've had it officially. I've had it

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once.

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But I only I only found that out

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because my... 1 of my son... My... 1

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of my kids at it and couldn't go

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to school this is a years ago.

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And I realized I've got it as well,

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but I didn't have any effects at also.

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I've heard recently though it just locally other

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people Yeah

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coming back up. Yeah.

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I mean, in most people's minds,

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it's over in it, and and maybe now

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is in in a sense that most people

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aren't even testing anymore. I'm sure. Yeah. Where

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we went to a a comedy show,

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Robert and I, and we both got it

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after that, but we know other people that

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got there as well. Yeah. So... Taylor Swift

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and all that been going on locally in

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it. Yeah. There must have been might a

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super spreader in there somewhere.

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this the this... It's not... Interestingly, it's not

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an election issue at all in terms of

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Covid... The Covid being mentioned in terms of

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something that we've been through that's been ghana

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and it has had left a bit

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left an economic legacy,

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but we'll talk about we're gonna talk today

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about politics and the election and, yeah.

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It's interesting that Covid

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in terms of like, managing it in keeping

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people healthy isn't isn't on the agenda at

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the moments. Mh.

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Because it's yeah. It's... Very recent history, but

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it people are quite good at kind of

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maybe for the... In some ways, this is

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a good thing. Like

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can't hold on not holding on it too

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much and getting on with it things. Yeah.

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I gave. I just had a boat belt

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of of Covid. But if I said,

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I have the flu. Would that be that'd

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be normal. Look Yeah.

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Yeah. It's true. Yeah. I know.

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Oh Yeah. So we're we're gonna talk today

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about the election... I'm not exactly sure the

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general election that is. I'm not exactly sure

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whether this is gonna go out

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before.

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Or just after.

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So I think we'll just try and pitch

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it just in kind general terms around mh,

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how it's been for the Uk and then

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run up to it and Yeah. And what

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the fallout was gonna be of a potential

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results. I mean, yeah. I'm record... We're recording

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this job about a week before

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Yep, you know, all the poles as they

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have done for

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quite a while and looking like making it

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look like labor, gonna get a massive majority.

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Reform are coming up quite strong at the

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moment. So I think they're actually pulling higher

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than the conservatives. So. The fallout of that

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is gonna be anything...

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Do you think that the polls

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affect people? Oh,

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yeah. I think they do... Actually, I was

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chatting to someone about this last night about

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how we shouldn't just be, like, assuming that

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labor are gonna win because

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even if they are, it it doesn't it

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doesn't sit well with people or, it might

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make people

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think I'm more a,

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like, oh,

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I won't bother the vote then because it's

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a done deal. Isn't it? Mh. Whereas, you

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know, if millions of people do that. Then,

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yeah, I guess what or some in some

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weird might happen. Mh. And where we are

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in in my constituency, which is a new

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1 called Broken head.

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The greens are given it a good old

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go as I've been sort of playing my

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little passing, and there we need our our,

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our supporters is to, mh. Get out and

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and vote out see how we can do.

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I I think that's 1 of things that

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the I learned as a kid.

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labor activists,

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so lots of,

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of things on the council they ran from

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our house. So it was election time. Yeah.

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mp would always visit our house. At that

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had time. There's all going on. Okay. And

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was it Ag Alex Douglas Hu.

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the the 1 things I always have had

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drum into me is the

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you cannot not vote.

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to the the voting,

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booth and spoil your paper.

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so important that we don't and we don't

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just sit back. Exactly. And then nothing about

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it afterwards

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we'll see general election turnout outs tend to

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be relatively higher, like, as in, like, 65,

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70 percent. I think

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local elections lower. You know, I think when

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I got elected the turnout out was my

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board was 45

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percent. Mh. Which was above the actual average

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for local elections. So

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yeah. Yeah. You know, It's hard getting hit

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dragging people out and, you know, I think

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postal votes have already, to arrive for some

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people where we are. I've just applied for

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I'm gonna be away for the election itself.

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I'm doing away doing some work. Doctor So

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I'm hoping my postal vote will come soon.

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interested being a local counsel and out I'm

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being involved.

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In the campaign work for, a general election.

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Mh. Hard work, you know? It's not easy,

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knocking on doors and getting

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leaflets out and organize organizing it also So

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I've been loosely involved in the organization if

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at all and just watching from. Yeah. Yeah.

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Todd work though. So mh fair play for

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whichever. Party you're you're into or you happen

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to represent.

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some campaign and then,

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good on, generally.

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child,

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left and right were very clear. Now either

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you were labor or you were conservative.

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me, don't know to vote for anymore. Yep.

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You know, there is that kind of fading

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whereas when people are extremist.

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clear about what you're doing and what I

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know you're voting for,

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you know, where I suppose like, people like

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s his mouth off. Mh. You know, people

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that are of that il are gonna go

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towards him. Yep his speaking sentence. Yeah. Yeah

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saying you know. That's right.

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part you're are now kind of behind in

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that space on the left. You know there's

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lots of... Lot lots of labor members,

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you know, the Jeremy Corbyn

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Brigade have

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I've found a home in the greens, which,

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you know, that's not I didn't really get

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into politics

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for that... That those kind of reasons. Mh.

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I'm board like the climate guy. But. It's

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been really interesting like getting to know a

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new

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gang of people Yeah that find found a

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home in the greens. And hopefully they're learning

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stuff from

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from, you know, what I'm talking about and

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that kind of thing and we can but,

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yeah, It's weird a self in like quite

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left wing party.

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almost bikes accident really. But

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Generally, loads of good people, You know, wanting

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in wanting a good wanted to do good

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work. Yeah.

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I hear lots of people. I'm obviously by

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virtue of what I do people talk to

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me about it, and people feeling dis franchise

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and stuff like that. But 1 of the

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things that really makes me laugh

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is our

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attitude towards capitalism

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because

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Car

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is about making money out people. Mh yeah.

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And the people you made the money from

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or the candle photo that you

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you use to

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get your josh.

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But when people do capitalist things,

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people are surprised and horrified. So we have

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the thing

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where,

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people

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people from the conservative party who knew when

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the election was going to be put bets

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in. Yeah. Because they knew they'd make money

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articles of. Yeah. Now and everyone's surprised and

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shocks and horrified, but that's capitalism.

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It's inside of trading.

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You know, inside the trading is working on

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what you know. Yep. Yeah. And people say

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it's Rob, you shouldn't do inside of trading,

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but that's how capitalism work.

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Or... Yeah. At least that's 1 of the

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the things you expect you should expect to

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see and not. That'll be too surprised. Yeah

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thing happened wasn't it Brexit broke because I

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think there was

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bets placed,

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you know, against the

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English or british economy,

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knowing you're assuming that Brexit might happen and

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then lo and behold. So betting against your

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country

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to make make a loaded dash.

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Yeah yeah.

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And then being surprised that people might have

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done that. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Yeah.

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Book. Nothing I... It's almost as though we

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expect people to act like saint when they

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actually act like people.

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Yeah. Yeah. And and it's realizing where their

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motivations are,

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you know, and and when you look at

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someone life out for our shouting is his

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mouth off. How much of that is about

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me me, look at me aren't anti lovely,

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you know, tell me, I'm great. Yeah. How

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much of it is about? I want to

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do this for you and to help you

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and

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No.

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Yeah.

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I mean, Far is just an interesting case.

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I can't some reason a video of his

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popped up on my Youtube feed yesterday, and

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it was way back in 2005

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and him in the European

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parliament.

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Going up against Tony Blair who at that

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point was... I think he must have been

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doing his Stint as the president of the

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European Union or something, So.

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It was far versus

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Tony Blair, Quite useful looking nigel far ferrari.

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But I mean,

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in his mind, and, you know, in it

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Tony Blair, kind of 18 for breakfast. Mh.

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But it was quite kind of weird watching

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this, which was 10 years, 11 years before

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Brexit. Mh.

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The confidence of Tony Blair and, you know,

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watching it in Hindsight is like, well, far

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large 1

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in the end So we're all, the booster

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and the.

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Confidence of

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someone like Tony Blair. You know.

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Far ferrari 8. I'm I do worry about

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In the sense that years a bit he's

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easy to mock.

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And take the mess the the piss off,

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but,

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it doesn't represent the views of a good

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lot big chunk of people, you know.

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So don't like, don't don't... Right. I... I'm

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happy to mock him as well, but also

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just keep on eye him because he's he's

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smarter than he looks, you know. Yeah. But

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that's cost. And and the thing is that

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when people have power,

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which is what they get when they they

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win the things like this. Is that that

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it it

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amplifies who they are. Now. Yep. In terms

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the volume well. Yes. So,

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I mean, whoever we get

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is going to be interesting because they're gonna

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have interesting issues to deal with. Not, I

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mean, you got all the expansive stuff like

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put and Ukraine and all that which is

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ongoing. Yep. And it's gonna be a real

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part of our everyday lives eventually. Mh.

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Indeed Yeah. And,

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well, we've come through Covid. We've got this

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global instability stuff going on, Gaza. We're still,

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you know, a terrible situation, and we have

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well.

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We've got a

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potential in likely new prime minister.

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Coming in who's very very nervous and shy

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about saying anything remotely,

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you know,

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exciting or anything to rock the boat too

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much. So

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at a time when the Uk kind of

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feels like it needs a real. Kick up

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the backside and en.

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It doesn't seem like we're gonna get

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we're get that.

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It's very much kinda like, we'll just we'll

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dig go away out of this whole slowly

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surely. That's not doing anything too. Because exactly

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it's got be like tread water them. Yeah.

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Which and it seems to me like people

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need a bit of

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a bit of woo. As sean might say?

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Yeah. Yeah. You do. There yeah dude. Yeah

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there's...

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Needs to be a bit of fire.

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You know.

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But it like I say, the 1 that

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my...

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Apprehension is that that fire comes from abroad.

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Like if you do end up in a

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conflict with putin, it will bring people together.

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People will make all kinds of breakthroughs and

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discoveries because of that, but it's not the

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right kind of motivation really? Yeah.

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The you know, and bring it back down

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to home a little bit with the stuff

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we talk about on this show about human

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flourishing or not even that. Just human kind

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of just a basic need for simplicity and

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connection with your neighbors and looking after its

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friends and family.

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There's there's not even that kind of sense

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of messaging from the big leg parties, like,

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looking out for each other and I was

390
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actually really impressed with the

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liberal Democrats, early stuff And when their campaigns

392
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been quite cool and Ed Davey is the

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leader. Yeah.

394
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It's just been... Seems to be having a

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lot of fun. Mh. You know, and the

396
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stuff he's been doing and it... He did

397
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a really good... Might be the best campaign

398
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video I've ever seen actually of his

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he's he's a... Cara for his son. It's

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got son that's got, you know, is disabled,

401
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and real kind of

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educational needs.

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And he he told his story about, kind

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of

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how he looks after his son how he

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built it into his life. I don't know

407
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if you've seen it yet.

408
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But a really powerful emotional story, and it

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was about care, You know, and it was

410
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to tried to tell the wider story about,

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okay. Yeah. I need to look after and

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care for my son.

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In amongst being an Mp and potentially, you

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know, a party leader,

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potential prime minister. Mh.

416
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But he was talking more widely about how

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we need to look after each other. Mh.

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And I thought that was a really powerful

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message. You know. Mh. And 1 that, I

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don't know why more people aren't telling the

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story, you know goes specific. So the the

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stupidity is that if the all learned on

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the laboratory show, the majority of the world's

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populations would disappear us straight away. My that

425
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gone. Yeah.

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Yeah.

427
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Mad. Yeah. It's just a simple story of

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caring. You know? Or no. Yeah. No. I

429
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can see not the window now, but usually

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my

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On of my elderly neighbors, she will like...

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She requires a lot of care at the

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moment

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pharmacists and people come a few times a

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day to check on her.

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And family as well. And then

437
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at the weekend, something seemed to happen. The

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front door was open and, you know, neighbors

439
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were going in and out, and, we know,

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we were rest if she's alright. We could

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help. And we we were all looking out

442
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for. You know? Mh.

443
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And I'm sure that kind of thing does

444
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go out and around the country, but it's

445
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not a message you you see too much.

446
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In politics, you know, and that, Bit more

447
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a positive. Yeah. Simple message. Yeah. The the

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main the main messages I mean my must

449
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have now.

450
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So isn't that seems to be it. Yeah.

451
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In most cases. It does... Yeah. And it's

452
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all about

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economic growth and getting the economy going and

454
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don't know jobs jobs jobs, which is important.

455
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I'm not dismissing that entirely, but

456
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I don't know. Should we be... Yeah. Working.

457
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We've talked about this in the past what

458
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what does a... What is a good job

459
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for someone You know,

460
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jobs can take many forms. You don't even

461
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get paid for certain jobs do eat to

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something that you do as part of your

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everyday life.

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Looking after a little cooper here, making sure

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he's

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well fed and watered and well rested.

467
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That's a full time job. Is that a

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hard life isn't?

469
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No.

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So, yeah, I don't know it's gonna be

471
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an interesting.

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Period for the Uk, we readjust as it

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and m.

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Yeah.

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And the

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the the thing that people were going on

477
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about this morning when I was in the

478
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jail was

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about,

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Vat being put on school phase for private

481
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schools.

482
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Yeah. And and that was signal was like

483
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a a major disaster.

484
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Alright. By who? By someone that was on.

485
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But the... Well,

486
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the the implication of the... Because there a

487
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lot of interviewers

488
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they really want to poke person their interviewing.

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And and I think, what earth is the

490
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point of this. You're not getting information. You're

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getting reactions.

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Know.

493
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But they were saying, no. So you're gonna

494
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make it so difficult for people, so pay

495
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for their kids to go to school, you

496
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know, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And

497
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if you wanna send because private school. It's

498
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like private medicines Isn't it if you can

499
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do it help yourself, but lot of us

500
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come. You know?

501
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Yeah. Won't somebody think of the privately

502
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educated children.

503
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Yeah. That's not something too up to speed

504
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done, but...

505
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It it is interesting. Yeah. That... I've I've

506
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done a bit of local media for local

507
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issues.

508
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And that's part of the problem. I think

509
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the kind of media landscape is is is

510
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always looking for

511
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controversy and,

512
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you know, is that kinda sound by.

513
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This person said that. Let's jump on them.

514
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You know, so.

515
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Maybe it's part of the whole cancel the

516
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culture stuff, but... But it's it's like

517
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the good news newspaper that does exist.

518
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But it's, like, maybe we should have a

519
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good news,

520
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news cost as well. Yep. You know, what's

521
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the good news today? Yeah. Instead of till

522
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just before the weather, that happy happy news

523
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story? It's like, yeah. Why? Don't we focus

524
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on that stuff a bit more?

525
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Yeah. I know. I'm not sure

526
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it's possible even, but

527
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I know the good news. Is it the

528
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good... Is it the good news or

529
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the website

530
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good news dot something. I'll link it the

531
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show. Yeah. There is a good news newspaper.

532
00:18:58,933 --> 00:19:01,100
Yeah. And action for happiness. We're trying eat,

533
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you know, You know, So there are

534
00:19:03,333 --> 00:19:05,726
organizations out there that are trying trying desperately,

535
00:19:05,885 --> 00:19:08,518
but Yeah. It's just Europe against such massive

536
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forces aren't you Yeah.

537
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That it's hard, you know, and, you know,

538
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a lot of the time I'll be doing

539
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in in news articles around sustainable transport locally.

540
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I'll be asked for a quote.

541
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Yeah. But, you know, the the article will

542
00:19:24,265 --> 00:19:27,478
be surrounded by adverts for, like, pickup trucks

543
00:19:27,478 --> 00:19:28,596
and Suvs and,

544
00:19:29,953 --> 00:19:32,028
cheap flights abroad that we shall be doing

545
00:19:32,028 --> 00:19:33,545
10 to 15 times a year.

546
00:19:34,344 --> 00:19:36,361
It's cheaper. You know, a flight to

547
00:19:36,834 --> 00:19:38,912
a ibiza through as cheaper than a train

548
00:19:38,912 --> 00:19:39,791
a train journey to?

549
00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:41,789
Ba for the day or something like that,

550
00:19:41,949 --> 00:19:44,027
So yeah. What can you do against all

551
00:19:44,027 --> 00:19:44,766
this master

552
00:19:45,145 --> 00:19:48,356
mound of Yeah. Of financing and funding and

553
00:19:48,516 --> 00:19:48,596
Yeah.

554
00:19:49,635 --> 00:19:49,954
Advertising.

555
00:19:50,514 --> 00:19:53,091
But then it equally so. It's like

556
00:19:54,442 --> 00:19:56,373
the the people have been spraying

557
00:19:57,701 --> 00:20:01,278
stone and... Oh, yeah. Airplanes Comes boil. Yeah

558
00:20:01,278 --> 00:20:02,811
yeah. But it's like

559
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:06,295
and this is 1 of the things the...

560
00:20:06,374 --> 00:20:08,516
Because I actually did this back along and

561
00:20:08,516 --> 00:20:10,579
they would have been in the Aces 1.

562
00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:14,799
But we actually had a group of people

563
00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:16,942
that were into the, you know, you can't

564
00:20:16,942 --> 00:20:18,132
do this. You can't do that. You can't

565
00:20:18,132 --> 00:20:20,138
do the other. Kind of thing with fear.

566
00:20:20,378 --> 00:20:21,976
And then it was okay, How did you

567
00:20:21,976 --> 00:20:22,535
get here?

568
00:20:23,653 --> 00:20:25,352
Yeah. What are you wearing?

569
00:20:26,704 --> 00:20:28,865
Yeah. Do you realize that your glasses is

570
00:20:28,865 --> 00:20:30,865
the phrase actually made out of plastic. Do

571
00:20:30,865 --> 00:20:32,065
you know where that comes from?

572
00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,464
Do you know Mean it's impossible to be

573
00:20:34,464 --> 00:20:35,765
perfect? Isn't it? And

574
00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:39,220
I don't know. I've managed the most of

575
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,599
How did you get it here? Where's is

576
00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:42,799
your re bike? I flew.

577
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,090
Yeah. Well, I know we've just... Well, we've

578
00:20:46,090 --> 00:20:48,084
just booked a holiday to create, and was

579
00:20:48,084 --> 00:20:49,200
the first time we'll be on a flight

580
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,317
for a couple of years, and I kind

581
00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:50,817
of

582
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:54,007
console myself

583
00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:57,264
an and a supposed environmental list by the

584
00:20:57,264 --> 00:20:58,935
fact that, you know, we can't be perfect.

585
00:20:59,095 --> 00:21:00,209
And when you've got Taylor Swift,

586
00:21:00,925 --> 00:21:02,436
who's using a private jet to go and

587
00:21:02,436 --> 00:21:03,765
get a pint of milk most

588
00:21:04,282 --> 00:21:04,839
every day.

589
00:21:07,623 --> 00:21:07,862
You know,

590
00:21:11,219 --> 00:21:13,294
Whilst we're well, Plugging away, you know, it's

591
00:21:13,294 --> 00:21:14,970
cycling everywhere as I can,

592
00:21:16,166 --> 00:21:17,762
whacked in a heat pump. So we're off

593
00:21:17,762 --> 00:21:20,246
gas completely now which 2 tons of Co2

594
00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:22,630
from our household emissions gone. You know, in

595
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:23,186
the last year,

596
00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:25,729
trying as hard as we can. Doesn't need...

597
00:21:25,968 --> 00:21:27,398
We don't need to be perfect. We just

598
00:21:27,398 --> 00:21:27,898
need

599
00:21:28,369 --> 00:21:29,967
to do our bit, and we need the

600
00:21:29,967 --> 00:21:31,246
super rich, mh.

601
00:21:31,965 --> 00:21:33,643
Who are just acting like they don't give

602
00:21:33,643 --> 00:21:34,303
a shit

603
00:21:34,842 --> 00:21:37,253
to do an awful lot more yeah, I

604
00:21:37,253 --> 00:21:38,551
try not to put too much

605
00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:40,685
pressure on myself, you,

606
00:21:42,681 --> 00:21:44,916
and, you know, my fellow suburban nights around

607
00:21:44,916 --> 00:21:46,443
here to not be too perfect. As long

608
00:21:46,443 --> 00:21:48,191
as we're making a decent amount of efforts

609
00:21:48,191 --> 00:21:49,462
and you've got a plan to get off

610
00:21:49,462 --> 00:21:50,575
your gas boiler and you.

611
00:21:51,528 --> 00:21:53,117
Reduce your reliance on your cars a little

612
00:21:53,117 --> 00:21:55,203
bit in the next few years. Mh. That's

613
00:21:55,203 --> 00:21:57,121
alright, you know. Mh. Have the odd flight

614
00:21:57,121 --> 00:21:58,799
ear and there. Don't worry about it too

615
00:21:58,799 --> 00:21:58,958
much.

616
00:21:59,677 --> 00:22:01,136
But Taylor Swift, you've you're listening

617
00:22:02,088 --> 00:22:03,597
Yeah. You. Try and rain it in as

618
00:22:03,597 --> 00:22:05,584
well. You know, trains do exist and you

619
00:22:05,584 --> 00:22:07,014
can. You could... I don't know You could...

620
00:22:07,173 --> 00:22:08,682
Yeah. And you can't get you may delivered.

621
00:22:08,921 --> 00:22:10,565
Yeah. Yeah. You could've have stayed near and

622
00:22:10,683 --> 00:22:12,508
near ant field instead of getting a helicopter

623
00:22:12,508 --> 00:22:13,484
to to and from

624
00:22:14,808 --> 00:22:16,316
stoke or whoever you were staying to do

625
00:22:16,316 --> 00:22:18,871
your Uk stuff. You know, just just try

626
00:22:18,871 --> 00:22:20,301
a little bit harder would you just stir

627
00:22:20,301 --> 00:22:20,857
as a favor.

628
00:22:23,955 --> 00:22:25,782
Maybe if they could have run the helicopter

629
00:22:25,782 --> 00:22:27,253
around cooking oil.

630
00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:28,130
Maybe

631
00:22:28,587 --> 00:22:31,060
sustainable aviation fuel there has, some clever buds

632
00:22:31,060 --> 00:22:32,336
working on that kind of stuff as well.

633
00:22:32,575 --> 00:22:34,808
Yeah. See all that pans out. Yeah. Get

634
00:22:34,808 --> 00:22:37,136
all deficient chip shops, collect the aisle. Yeah.

635
00:22:37,296 --> 00:22:39,449
There you go. Eat more chips. There you

636
00:22:39,449 --> 00:22:39,688
going?

637
00:22:41,283 --> 00:22:42,400
Sustainable farming.

638
00:22:44,473 --> 00:22:46,161
Cool. So, yeah. I mean, what do we

639
00:22:46,161 --> 00:22:47,591
say to the folks out there that kind

640
00:22:47,591 --> 00:22:47,671
of...

641
00:22:48,624 --> 00:22:50,373
There's gonna be a lot of unhappy people

642
00:22:50,373 --> 00:22:52,200
as in... With elections in the the process

643
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:52,836
in the Uk.

644
00:22:53,805 --> 00:22:55,396
I mean, we might be in position where

645
00:22:55,396 --> 00:22:57,226
reform, Uk have got 20 percent of the

646
00:22:57,226 --> 00:23:00,169
vote chair, but maybe maybe only 1 or

647
00:23:00,169 --> 00:23:02,413
2 Mps, which in in its itself is

648
00:23:02,413 --> 00:23:04,648
a real and injustice really. Yeah. Same with

649
00:23:04,648 --> 00:23:06,005
the green. But you know, that's the first

650
00:23:06,005 --> 00:23:07,840
part the post. That's how it works. Yeah.

651
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,899
Yeah. So

652
00:23:10,648 --> 00:23:11,925
what do we say to the folks who

653
00:23:11,925 --> 00:23:14,238
are feeling dis in there in the in

654
00:23:14,238 --> 00:23:14,876
the fall.

655
00:23:15,354 --> 00:23:16,492
I think that the

656
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:17,529
principle

657
00:23:17,986 --> 00:23:20,275
about life and living and being a human

658
00:23:20,473 --> 00:23:20,973
being

659
00:23:21,826 --> 00:23:23,042
comes down to

660
00:23:23,894 --> 00:23:26,280
it is not what happens is how you

661
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,837
respond to it.

662
00:23:27,887 --> 00:23:30,857
Yeah. And and that's the issue is that

663
00:23:31,791 --> 00:23:33,704
it's like a football matches is that there's

664
00:23:33,704 --> 00:23:35,297
going to be an amount of people who

665
00:23:35,297 --> 00:23:37,050
are really fed up after of football match.

666
00:23:37,384 --> 00:23:39,140
Yep. Yeah. But what do you do with

667
00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:40,417
that? Mh. Yeah.

668
00:23:42,093 --> 00:23:43,849
And and that it's the same thing in

669
00:23:43,849 --> 00:23:45,046
every part of life?

670
00:23:46,338 --> 00:23:46,737
And, yes,

671
00:23:47,615 --> 00:23:50,327
you're not perfect. This election might be perfect.

672
00:23:51,284 --> 00:23:52,582
And we're gonna have to learn

673
00:23:53,292 --> 00:23:55,275
from it and then to deal with it.

674
00:23:55,671 --> 00:23:57,892
Yep. So isn't a lot happens out as

675
00:23:57,892 --> 00:23:59,477
why Next And how do we deal with

676
00:23:59,477 --> 00:24:01,717
or what do we do? Yeah. Yeah. Well,

677
00:24:02,595 --> 00:24:05,227
there'll be people even before the election campaign

678
00:24:05,227 --> 00:24:08,018
in book preparing for the result and ready

679
00:24:08,018 --> 00:24:09,374
getting ready to go again in the same

680
00:24:09,374 --> 00:24:10,512
way they've got a

681
00:24:11,064 --> 00:24:13,242
major football tournament on at the moments, and

682
00:24:14,579 --> 00:24:17,216
it's unlikely that England will win, maybe they

683
00:24:17,216 --> 00:24:17,376
will.

684
00:24:18,428 --> 00:24:20,337
We tend not doing these things as history

685
00:24:20,337 --> 00:24:22,007
has shown. I know you know it's what,

686
00:24:22,564 --> 00:24:25,267
32 teams or something like that. Only 1

687
00:24:25,267 --> 00:24:27,434
will win. Yeah. You know? What do you

688
00:24:27,434 --> 00:24:28,794
do after a football on them, and you

689
00:24:28,794 --> 00:24:30,575
kinda regroup. Don't you? You maybe

690
00:24:31,194 --> 00:24:32,794
change your stuff a little bit or you

691
00:24:32,794 --> 00:24:34,315
just kinda go back to the drone board

692
00:24:34,315 --> 00:24:35,515
and you get ready for the next 1?

693
00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:38,005
You know? It happens every 2 years. But

694
00:24:38,005 --> 00:24:39,942
if you think about sport generally,

695
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,379
it's about

696
00:24:42,076 --> 00:24:44,790
disappointed people. 9 people run a race.

697
00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:47,590
Only 1 person wins 8 people have pissed

698
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:48,385
off. Yep.

699
00:24:49,101 --> 00:24:52,019
Didn't know. It's like, it at the old

700
00:24:52,538 --> 00:24:55,010
about happiness through sport team ring low to

701
00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:56,925
me. Mh. Unless you unless you this was

702
00:24:56,925 --> 00:24:58,440
just going for the a run for the

703
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,238
father it. Yeah.

704
00:24:59,876 --> 00:25:01,710
Yeah I think it depends, you know, I

705
00:25:01,710 --> 00:25:02,005
think

706
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,554
There are ways to take happiness in up

707
00:25:05,554 --> 00:25:07,548
when in Roger Black mister Famous 400 me

708
00:25:07,548 --> 00:25:09,781
to renault who knew he could not beat

709
00:25:09,941 --> 00:25:11,616
Michael Johnson back in the nineties.

710
00:25:12,268 --> 00:25:13,324
Johnson was just,

711
00:25:13,857 --> 00:25:16,161
you know, this superstar un unacceptable,

712
00:25:16,717 --> 00:25:19,657
The guy. So for him, gold was was

713
00:25:19,657 --> 00:25:20,531
silver, which he said,

714
00:25:21,344 --> 00:25:23,182
in an in before and after the race

715
00:25:23,182 --> 00:25:25,020
and he got silver. He came second so

716
00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:26,698
I was do. And for him that was

717
00:25:26,698 --> 00:25:28,296
his gold medal because he just knew he

718
00:25:28,296 --> 00:25:29,095
couldn't beat this guy.

719
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:32,230
So, you know, for some people get into

720
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:34,309
the final lever race or just get into

721
00:25:34,309 --> 00:25:34,869
a tournament,

722
00:25:35,349 --> 00:25:37,589
is a big... Think that if you're gonna

723
00:25:37,589 --> 00:25:38,882
do 05:10,

724
00:25:40,238 --> 00:25:43,109
half marathon and whatever. It's like getting to

725
00:25:43,109 --> 00:25:45,023
the end, getting to get through the ribbon

726
00:25:45,023 --> 00:25:47,018
at the end is is enough, you know.

727
00:25:47,336 --> 00:25:47,496
Yeah.

728
00:25:48,229 --> 00:25:49,586
In the poll political sense, I went into

729
00:25:49,586 --> 00:25:50,305
other things last night,

730
00:25:51,821 --> 00:25:52,321
and

731
00:25:53,099 --> 00:25:54,935
it was focused on climate and nature put

732
00:25:54,935 --> 00:25:56,372
on by local charity. Yeah.

733
00:25:57,823 --> 00:25:59,894
You know, and there was folks there from

734
00:26:00,053 --> 00:26:01,429
Freedom Alliance and

735
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:03,660
workers party,

736
00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:06,767
labor and conservative didn't send a representative

737
00:26:07,239 --> 00:26:08,757
lip ends, greens were there as well.

738
00:26:09,716 --> 00:26:11,713
But, you know, I just had respect for

739
00:26:11,713 --> 00:26:13,311
people that were brave enough to show up

740
00:26:13,311 --> 00:26:14,764
and sit in front of a you know,

741
00:26:14,845 --> 00:26:16,684
a big room full of people asking questions,

742
00:26:16,924 --> 00:26:18,224
Mh. Especially the

743
00:26:18,684 --> 00:26:21,085
freedom alliance, actually, who are quite... They don't

744
00:26:21,085 --> 00:26:23,017
believe in climate change, you know, they They

745
00:26:23,017 --> 00:26:24,448
kinda don't think we should be doing any

746
00:26:24,448 --> 00:26:24,925
of this stuff,

747
00:26:26,674 --> 00:26:28,979
which... Yeah. I'm at the office end. But

748
00:26:29,059 --> 00:26:30,545
I had respectful for them for showing up

749
00:26:30,664 --> 00:26:32,825
Yeah. And taking part, You know? And that's

750
00:26:32,825 --> 00:26:35,305
that's democracy in it and that's... Yep. Sometimes

751
00:26:35,305 --> 00:26:36,664
you just got show up and having have

752
00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:37,945
a go. Even if you know you're gonna

753
00:26:37,945 --> 00:26:38,744
get beaten.

754
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,113
So, yeah. Labor and conservative, what are you

755
00:26:42,113 --> 00:26:44,745
playing not even mh brave enough to come

756
00:26:44,745 --> 00:26:47,217
along or take the time and to speak

757
00:26:47,217 --> 00:26:49,073
to people really strange, but.

758
00:26:50,024 --> 00:26:51,699
Yeah. All scared or do you.

759
00:26:52,496 --> 00:26:54,171
I know saying the wrong thing and Yeah.

760
00:26:54,410 --> 00:26:57,361
It being... Yeah. Ending up on social media.

761
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,877
Who knows? Anyway?

762
00:27:00,165 --> 00:27:02,471
Alright for now. Yeah. That's good. So we'll

763
00:27:02,471 --> 00:27:04,140
re we'll regroup. The next 1 we record,

764
00:27:04,298 --> 00:27:05,809
I think we'll be after the election and

765
00:27:05,809 --> 00:27:06,309
we'll

766
00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,486
we'll see where the Uk is and whether...

767
00:27:10,203 --> 00:27:11,637
What the way forward is, but it's gonna

768
00:27:11,637 --> 00:27:13,072
be an interest few weeks in it. Yeah?

769
00:27:13,550 --> 00:27:16,431
And and my results depending on, obviously when

770
00:27:16,431 --> 00:27:18,418
went out, but my results would be,

771
00:27:19,292 --> 00:27:22,631
make sure you vote? Yes. Don't waste, do

772
00:27:22,631 --> 00:27:22,790
it.

773
00:27:23,443 --> 00:27:25,358
Yeah. Yeah. And if this has gone out

774
00:27:25,358 --> 00:27:26,795
after, and you haven't voted.

775
00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:29,907
Make sure you vote... Next time. Yeah. Don't

776
00:27:29,907 --> 00:27:32,640
beat yourself up. Yeah. But, yeah, next time,

777
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:35,440
give it a go get involved. Mh. At

778
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,960
very least put a little x next to

779
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,200
someone.

780
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,454
Or

781
00:27:39,131 --> 00:27:40,484
scribble all over it, you know, none of

782
00:27:40,484 --> 00:27:41,837
the above that kind of thing Yeah. Yeah.

783
00:27:42,314 --> 00:27:44,941
But take part. You're all bonkers. Yeah. Yeah.

784
00:27:45,418 --> 00:27:47,271
Yeah. But is that is

785
00:27:47,646 --> 00:27:48,377
participation. Yes.

786
00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:52,593
Yep. Alright. Cool. Thanks sean. Thank you. See

787
00:27:52,593 --> 00:27:54,502
you on the other side. Yes. Keep smiling.

788
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:55,633
Alright. See you.