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This is a Sandy Boy productions podcast.

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Hey everybody. Welcome to All have another podcast

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with Lindsay He. I'm your host Lindsay. Thanks

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so much for joining me today. Today on

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the podcast, we have Sierra D on the

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show,

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introducing you to another ultra runner.

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I'm am excited to share her story with

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you. She's actually

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competing in bad water 01:35

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next week. So make sure you go follow

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her on Instagram, and you can check out

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how she's doing over there. Her Instagram is

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s Dig, DEGR0FF.

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Sierra is a

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hundred mile Etf champion, as well as a

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24 hour

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Usa champion.

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She started running Ultra in 20 15, and

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she's really excel at the hundred mile distance.

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She... For sure has a shot. To win

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bad water next week, so it's gonna be

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really exciting to see what she does.

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She's run bad water before and did not

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have the greatest experience, but she's coming back

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to

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give it another go. She's run over a

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dozen hundred mile,

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She lives right outside of Las Vegas, Nevada,

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and also has a full time

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9 to 5 job. She's gonna share about

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all things running working and training for bad

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water in this episode. If you are enjoying

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Please enjoy my conversation with Sierra D.

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Hey, everybody.

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To stay on the podcast. We have Sierra

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D g on the show. Welcome to the

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show, Sierra.

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Hello.

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How are you?

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I'm good. Just got home from work, just

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hanging out.

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Nice and hot in Vegas, like, a hundred

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and 10 out right now. So

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What is the hot there? Like, is that...

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It is it a humid hot or, like,

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a dry hot? What is it? Dry.

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Okay... We've had, like, a little bit of

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humidity, like... Leave, but I mean, hot for

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Vegas can get up to, like, 01:15

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or so. So it's it's about there right

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now.

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Leave So... This might be a really broad

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basic question, but what is it like living

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in Las Vegas?

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Well, I've been here about 8 years now.

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So it's been a little bit. I'm from

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Michigan originally, and I went to school in

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Ohio. So

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Midwest,

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now you know, born and raised and then

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moved out here. I live in Summer, which

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is actually, like, a suburb of Las Vegas.

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I mean, by, like, my mailing address in

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Las Vegas, but over by, like, Red Rock

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and stuff,

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it's

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it's totally normal. I mean, I've lived downtown

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like, I've lived off of Las Vegas Boulevard

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to and that's probably the true

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experience of whatever everybody thinks of.

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But, yeah. Like, more recently, I've got a

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condo over in Summer couple years ago. So

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it's... You know, it's just casual, suburb verbiage.

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I mean, you got your homeless people and

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you know, all that stuff, But,

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not that crazy. Like, I'm barely ever on

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the strip. So, you know, it's, like, close

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enough if you want it, but it's far

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enough but

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really deal with it if you don't want

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to. So... Yeah. Can feel like a world

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Do you ever miss the Midwest?

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we don't get here that are, like, the

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Great Lake. Like, I'm from Michigan and my

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parents have a house. I'm, like, Michigan and

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all that. And that's definitely the place to

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be in the summertime. So it's seriously. You

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hot temps and all that out here. So

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there's some trade off that's for sure, but

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we don't have bugs. We don't have humidity.

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yeah. There's a lot of other things. Like,

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anywhere that's desirable is like, a 5 hour

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drive, I feel like, in the Midwest or

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you're hopping on a plane and going

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2 times zones over. So

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just this is a lot more accessible out

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here for a lot of stuff. So I

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don't know.

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But I do miss. My family it's all

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there. And everything. So gonna try to get

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back pretty soon here. Yeah. You gotta schedule

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that in the summertime, but you've got a

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lot going on. I saw you got back

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into bad water. And Mh. Yeah. So that's

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that's the main focus right now is training

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and

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getting places to train for that. Like, we're

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in Saint. George last. Weekend, and this weekend,

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I'm headed out to Lone Pine. Gonna do

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a big climbing run. I already did the

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portal fine. So we're gonna do a different

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1 this week again, but and then we're

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in Colorado next weekend for another race to

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tune up. So we'll we'll see after all

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this fun in July, we'll

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right to head up to Michigan, maybe end

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of July or August or something. So... What

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do your parents think about what you do?

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With your running. Well,

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you know, my dad's always been a little

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more,

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interested and involved, I guess, if you will.

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He actually went out to bad water last

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year. So that was... Yeah.

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He really wanted to go. So I was

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like, well, you really picked a a big

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Alt to do your first 1 at had.

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So I don't know. That was it was

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cool. Like, my friend came out, and he

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was you know, he's got to us in

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lone pine and at the finish to take

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some pictures because he's a professional photographer, and

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he kinda just, like, tag going with my

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dad and they hung out. For the week

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and that was cool, so we didn't have

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to just be by himself because... And you

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might dad thinks. I'm really tough

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for have you probably a little crazy too

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with how much I run, but I feel

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like, you know, I've done a runner for

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so long? Just not ultra runner that

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I don't wanna say I'll blame it on

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him, but, you know, the whole cross country

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thing in high school that wasn't in.

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My doing that was, like, my coach and

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my parents. That were like, come on. You

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gotta do this, and it's, like, alright, I

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guess.

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So fault I got hooked.

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Yeah. Exactly. But no regrets. I love it.

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So they're I'm I'm happy.

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Well, that's interesting that he

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came to bad water for his first ultra

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of years to to witness.

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Because also you got really sick.

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Yeah. And So I think that I would

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be scary as a parent to see. Like,

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oh my gosh. I think I just be

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like, come just come getting the car. Come

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on.

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Yeah. No.

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I definitely... I've had some rough hundreds. I've

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done, like, 16 at this point, and that

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1 was definitely 1 of the top stuff

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or fast, I'd say, I mean, everything was

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going right until it wasn't, You know, I

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was with the lead pack for the first

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40 miles with Harvey and Ashley and Simon,

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and You know, I wasn't cooling properly. I

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mean, now I can look back at all

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the mistakes that were made that we're not

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gonna make this year, but

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yeah, When things got bad, It was just

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worse. And then it got a little better,

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and then I lost, like, almost 20 pounds

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out there from throwing thrown up. So that

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was pretty bad. But

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Wow.

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Did you... I mean, in 20 pounds that,

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like, your body probably can't really afford to

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lose. Like, did you have to go to

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the hospital after that?

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Didn't go to the hospital. No. I mean,

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some people might have, but

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you know, I mean, you do enough of

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these. You're, like, okay. As long as I'm

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better, like, a a day or 2, like,

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I shouldn't need, you know, I mean, the

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day of, in the day after it's kind

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of hard to judge, but everything kinda of

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subsided after that. And... No. I mean, the

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few stopped and, they will start eating again

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and drinking, so that's the important thing.

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You know, if I was in danger, I

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feel like I would have but you got

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your crew with you and you're... You're not,

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like, off the grid. So I mean, I

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needed medical attention and it was there. You

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know? Yeah. So

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what about

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bad water... Like,

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how do you wanna go back

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to a place where you suffered so severely.

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And I know you said, like, Oh, we're

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gonna fix all the things that Mh. We

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didn't do right. But does it scare you

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a little bit to know that that suffering

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is out there?

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I mean, of course. Like, I've... Like I

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said, this isn't my first rodeo. Like I've

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had a couple suffer fast at this point.

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But I think that's how you get better

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at these hundreds. I mean, it's not, like,

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the shorter stuff where it's all calculated, and,

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you know, you can be like while I

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did this on this training run and this

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on that. Like, you do all that. But

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with the hundred Mile, there's just so many

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other factors and how do you, like, deal

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with the... While challenges and stuff.

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I mean it makes me want it even

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more, and... I'd love to win. I mean,

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that's, like, my goal would be to win

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the race and, you know, 24 to 28

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hour would be my Able. But, and, the

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everything has to go right for that, you

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know. So

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Yeah. I mean, I really wanna do it

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right this time. So I don't have to

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go back for a little bit. But

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and then who is your crew gonna be

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this time? Is it some of the same

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people, all of the same people?

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Yeah. So, like, 50 percent will be coming

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back? So my boyfriend Joe, and my John

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we've actually... We've ran, like, 80 miles and

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a hundred before together. So, like, before he

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ever accrued me, he was, like, a really

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good, you know, running buddy,

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and then my friend Maya will be a

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new 1, and she's done she's been running

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under Mile for over 10 years now. She's

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been doing it forever. And then

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my friend Megan Ec. I don't know if

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you know who that is. She just had

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a phenomenal

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performance at 6 days in the dome. She

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ran, like, 526

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miles, so she's, like, next up behind camille,

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I think for the world's

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record. Yeah. Like I'm friends with Camille too,

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but I'm like, dang, Megan, like, you know,

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she's a teacher, like, not a full time

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runner. I mean, I'm not a full time

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runner either, but I'm like, you're just amazing.

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You know. So,

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yeah. Meghan and Maya will be new and

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the other 2 are veterans, but Meghan's has

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been out there before. So Maya is really

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the only, like, bad water virgin, if you

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will that hasn't crew paste or ran the

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race or anything. So,

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Yeah. We should be good. I mean, I'm

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I'm not too nervous about it. Like, I'm

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fortunate enough. I have tons of friends that

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either live nearby or do it. So it

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wasn't a big deal to fill the slots.

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Okay. That race you mentioned that your friend

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Megan did, and she's... Because you said she

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did what 5 2520

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miles? Think, 526

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and Camille was, like, what, like, 05:60.

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I it, like, 5... What with a 60

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crazy. I think I I don't know. That...

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Like don't quote on this. No. Pretty it

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was 40 or 60 because I... Yeah. I

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just talked to interviewed her.

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Well, the the reason I followed up on

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that is because I'm, like, you know, with

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the camille thing, they had so... Much P

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because of the Lulu lim further project. And

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when you mentioned this race, I'm like, I

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don't remember saying anything about that. And, like,

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that's a big deal. Much It is a

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big deal. I mean, like, Megan Ted's and

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very

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standout performances. I mean, I... You know, I've...

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I'm her friend, So, obviously, I follow, but,

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like, She's doing big this year too. I

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mean, she... She she is. Yeah. She ran,

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like, 2 70 miles at the last man

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standing earlier this year and beat guy or

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something... You know, like, she's done some really

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high mileage,

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55 or, you know, like, multi day force

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things where... In this, you know, I'm not

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surprised that she did so well at the

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dome,

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And it's a Us Atf, race and stuff.

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So I mean, it's in... I think it's

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in Milwaukee. So it's

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I don't know where we're in the Midwest.

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Right? I I was for a long time.

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I'm in grocery right now, but I'm from

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Indiana. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't

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know.

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In a track for 6 days inside. That's

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just terrible to me. You. I've done a

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track race outside, but indoors and that was

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for

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hundred miles, which is funny. So

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wow.

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That's Wild.

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So

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you know, you mentioned cross country as as

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as a high school or and your dad

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and your coach kinda getting you into it.

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Mh. But I looked up your ultra.

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Sign up results and everything, and I saw

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you run your first ultra in 20 15

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at 24.

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Is that... That's the first on ultra sign

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up that I saw. Is there anything before

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that? That's accurate. No. That's accurate. Yeah.

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So that's pretty young 24 to do your

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first ultra.

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What was the impetus for that? How did

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you get into Ultra?

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Yeah. So,

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I... Like I said, I grew up in

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Michigan. I went to school at University at

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Toledo. So in college, I worked at Dates

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running shop. Which has a pretty big presence

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in, like, Ohio. They had like, 4 running

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stores and they put on the Glass City

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marathon.

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So I was working there, and I was

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on their race, team

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because they had, like, a door race team,

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and I don't know. I mean, I... I

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was looking at... I think it was Woodstock.

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It's my first and then it was looking

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at that, and it wasn't gonna be a

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e queue. And at the time, like, all

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I realized, like, her about was marathons, and

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I was, like... And couple more dollars to

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do the 50 k. It's Like oh. You

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know, Let's let's try something new. Like, it's

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a trail raise or whatever. So, yeah. I

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went and did a

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It was okay. Like, at the time, I

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wasn't, like, sold on Alt because it wasn't...

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People were as into it, especially back then

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and in Midwest. Is, like, nobody really did

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that stuff. Like, it was just, like marathons

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or half marathons. So...

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Yeah. That that wasn't really what sparked it

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for me.

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It... Because if you look, it took a

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little bit to, like, you know, raise the

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distance and mh, really get in do it.

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Like, couple years. So moving out here definitely

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helped,

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grow that passion for sure. So 16 hundreds.

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Yes. Do that I've completed. I've attempted 18.

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I've finished 16.

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Okay. Let's dissect those a little bit. What

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was the hardest?

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Oh,

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ma'am,

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I mean trailer road.

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What do you like better trailer road? I

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mean, I'm better at road. I I kinda

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like the road better because that's, like, you

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know, my background,

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but I I do have, like, a soft

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spot for trails. I mean, they're super pretty.

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Like, the places that I've been on some

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of these trails and these hundreds. They're just

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phenomenal. I mean, like, cascade crest, 100. For...

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Okay. So for trails,

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that was probably...

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Let's say that was probably the hardest.

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Trail. Cascade hundred.

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Cass Crest in Washington.

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Yeah. Okay.

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And I don't know if that's because it

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was, like, the first of, like, 3 that

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I did the summer of 20 22. I

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had, like, a 2 week gap and between

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Cascade Crest Angels Crest and lead bill. So

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That was a little wild.

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But Washington's

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trails are just so rugged. Like, and you

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wouldn't think that and the births not that

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high, but

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Yeah. The terrain just super techie. At least

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from what I'm used to. I mean, we're

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kind of technical in Nevada, but there's some

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run stuff too. You, so

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It's a that for trail, and then for

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road.

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I mean, bad water, of course. So the

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loop stuff's kinda hard too, though. I mean,

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because you really gotta

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have a different, like,

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mental game with that, because, you know, you're

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just doing, like, the track race. It did,

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like, over 400 loops around the track. I

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mean, you can't

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Yeah. There's no, like, even keeping track at

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that point, you know? So,

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I don't know. I think a 24 hour.

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If I

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completed a 24 hour on a track because

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it sol this, I pulled the plug at

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a hundred miles because I had just done

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fat box like weeks prior. And as just

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like, I'm trash. Like, I can't I can't

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imagine another extra. However, many hours around this

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track,

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I think that would be really tough. Like,

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a 24 hour around a track. Just haven't

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done the whole time yet. So

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But, you, if you hadn't have just done

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the Fat 24 hours.

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I'm sure you would have completed. Yeah. Yeah.

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It wasn't a matter of, like, can I

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do this? It was just like, I had

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won the hundred, and I got my buckle

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and everything, And I mean, I I don't

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wanna sound like, a baby but I'm like,

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I wanna go to bed, but I wanna

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lose sleep because I didn't, you know, I

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didn't take extra time off work or anything

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either. We just, like, drove down the Phoenix

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after work on a Friday and had to

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go back on... I don't know why to

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do that.

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I don't know how you do that? So

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you work full time. You have a normal

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8 to 5 job. What do you do?

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I'm an account manager for sales. So

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yeah. I sell electrical

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distribution equipment

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for vital electric supplies. So,

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yeah. It's it's fun. I'm, like, 8 to

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04:30, Monday through Friday and

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when I'm not working, I'm usually running or

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at the gym or

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doing something of that nature. So This is

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why we're recording this, 08:30,

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eastern time, 05:30,

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Pacific time.

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Yeah.

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Would you normally be running right now though?

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Like, did you carve it out? Or are

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you gonna go run after this?

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No.

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I was supposed to do a double today,

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but I did a double. Yes. Screwed instead.

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So I I planned ahead when I got

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your email. I was like, we'll just do

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it I mean, I can flip flop. It's

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it's not big deal. As long as the

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mileage just getting in Don't care whether it's

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Wednesday or Thursday,

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whatever.

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recently ish started working with a coach?

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Yeah. So I

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I heard my first coach for Jackpot.

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I had Connor,

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Camille husband been coaching me, so we did

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a little bit together and... Okay.

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You know, I I basically bought a plan

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from those guys, so it wasn't, like, a

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very, like, 1 on 1 sort of thing.

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So

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I I don't know I Maybe didn't from

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Connor. Yeah. And, I mean, I a degree

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in exercise science, and I don't really have

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an accountability problem. Like, I, you know, I've

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been training myself for years, and I I

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will do the workouts. Like, I will do

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the miles. It's just

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I don't know. I I kind of, like,

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needed somebody more to talk to, I guess,

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if you will, and it's nothing against them,

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and I probably... Like I said, I just

525
00:20:11,539 --> 00:20:12,895
bought the wrong plan.

526
00:20:14,425 --> 00:20:15,861
So I actually...

527
00:20:16,339 --> 00:20:17,796
I I met Anna,

528
00:20:18,731 --> 00:20:21,304
my current coach back at H

529
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,036
last... Year, because she was coaching Ryan at

530
00:20:25,036 --> 00:20:26,228
the time, Montgomery,

531
00:20:26,784 --> 00:20:27,920
and I was

532
00:20:28,532 --> 00:20:30,122
kind of in the same tent as those

533
00:20:30,122 --> 00:20:33,161
guys because I was Korean pacing Rachel North

534
00:20:33,161 --> 00:20:33,400
fleet,

535
00:20:34,117 --> 00:20:35,950
and that's 1 of Ryan's like best friends.

536
00:20:36,268 --> 00:20:38,282
So anyways, I like got

537
00:20:38,593 --> 00:20:40,344
in the mix with her, you know, like,

538
00:20:40,424 --> 00:20:42,652
watching her coach him and, like, how, you

539
00:20:42,652 --> 00:20:45,279
know, speak with him and everything, and we

540
00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:47,587
became friends at that point also and, you

541
00:20:47,587 --> 00:20:47,746
know,

542
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:48,720
it just...

543
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,480
It seems like it was gonna be a

544
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,500
good fit, I guess, just with

545
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,279
my...

546
00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:56,112
I don't... I don't know. Like, my

547
00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:57,465
experience

548
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,908
seeing her and Ryan and, like, how she

549
00:20:59,908 --> 00:21:01,976
is with him and just as a coach.

550
00:21:02,627 --> 00:21:04,296
And, you know, I had no problem, like,

551
00:21:04,455 --> 00:21:06,124
talking to her on, like, a friendship level

552
00:21:06,124 --> 00:21:07,816
and everything too. So

553
00:21:08,190 --> 00:21:09,303
I had just hit her up and was

554
00:21:09,303 --> 00:21:10,813
like, hey, You know, I I think we

555
00:21:10,813 --> 00:21:12,981
could... Try this, and this would be good

556
00:21:12,981 --> 00:21:14,737
for us or whatever. And so I... I've

557
00:21:14,737 --> 00:21:17,132
been working with her. You seem... Like you

558
00:21:17,132 --> 00:21:18,968
said, you don't have a struggle with motivation.

559
00:21:19,127 --> 00:21:20,579
Like, you're gonna get done what needs... To

560
00:21:20,579 --> 00:21:21,059
get done?

561
00:21:21,779 --> 00:21:23,059
And you know what you're doing?

562
00:21:23,859 --> 00:21:26,420
So, like, how do you... How does that

563
00:21:26,420 --> 00:21:28,714
work with a coaching relationship when like, like

564
00:21:28,834 --> 00:21:30,261
You were just sailing, I just did my

565
00:21:30,261 --> 00:21:32,324
double yesterday and instead, Like, you know what

566
00:21:32,324 --> 00:21:32,879
to do.

567
00:21:33,672 --> 00:21:35,497
So how do you handle that relationship?

568
00:21:37,582 --> 00:21:38,538
So, yeah. I just...

569
00:21:39,256 --> 00:21:41,247
I think that's kind of why I made

570
00:21:41,247 --> 00:21:43,080
the switch also. I needed something that was

571
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,044
more personalized and, like, tailored to, like, in

572
00:21:46,044 --> 00:21:48,596
the moment. Like, what I got with the

573
00:21:48,596 --> 00:21:51,068
other guys was, like, okay. Here's your plan.

574
00:21:51,387 --> 00:21:53,062
This is gonna go, like, 2 months out.

575
00:21:53,301 --> 00:21:55,135
This is your week to week, whatever.

576
00:21:55,549 --> 00:21:57,866
And it was just almost more stressful for

577
00:21:57,866 --> 00:22:00,263
me to, like, not have that person to

578
00:22:00,263 --> 00:22:01,781
kinda, like you know...

579
00:22:02,994 --> 00:22:04,053
I guess, go

580
00:22:04,432 --> 00:22:06,270
text or whatever the week before and be

581
00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:07,788
like, hey. By the way, like, I forgot,

582
00:22:07,948 --> 00:22:09,626
like, I wanna do this race as the

583
00:22:09,626 --> 00:22:10,480
training runner.

584
00:22:10,917 --> 00:22:12,666
I have this other goofy thing that I

585
00:22:12,666 --> 00:22:14,971
need to do, You know, like, and with

586
00:22:14,971 --> 00:22:17,038
her, it's, like, I just text her and

587
00:22:17,038 --> 00:22:19,519
tell her and she'll... U kinda work around

588
00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:21,032
it because I'm getting it week by week,

589
00:22:21,191 --> 00:22:23,045
You know? So it's not,

590
00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:24,535
like, I have to, like,

591
00:22:25,411 --> 00:22:27,815
you know, worry about that stuff, and she's

592
00:22:27,815 --> 00:22:29,727
been very flexible. Like,

593
00:22:30,524 --> 00:22:30,843
I mean,

594
00:22:31,639 --> 00:22:33,551
it's it's, like, I don't wanna call it

595
00:22:33,551 --> 00:22:35,225
a part. It is a partnership. You know,

596
00:22:35,384 --> 00:22:36,282
like, it's not

597
00:22:36,673 --> 00:22:38,660
just like, this is what you're doing, and

598
00:22:38,819 --> 00:22:41,124
I don't care what you wanna do. Like,

599
00:22:41,283 --> 00:22:43,986
it's like, no, like, let's work around what's

600
00:22:43,986 --> 00:22:46,309
important to you and, you know, and we've

601
00:22:46,309 --> 00:22:46,809
had

602
00:22:47,109 --> 00:22:47,609
good,

603
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:50,390
you know, results with that. Like, I... I'm

604
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:52,309
happy with it, and I'm happy working with

605
00:22:52,309 --> 00:22:54,402
her, and you know, I can just text

606
00:22:54,402 --> 00:22:56,956
or collar or whatever, and that's more so

607
00:22:56,956 --> 00:22:59,111
what I, like, needed. I don't know that

608
00:22:59,191 --> 00:23:01,367
I needed somebody to just do the programming,

609
00:23:01,746 --> 00:23:03,278
you know. So... Totally.

610
00:23:03,997 --> 00:23:05,515
Will she be will she be a bath

611
00:23:05,515 --> 00:23:05,755
water?

612
00:23:06,634 --> 00:23:08,871
She won't know. Because she's a runner too.

613
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:12,497
So she's scattered stuff, and she's in Colorado.

614
00:23:12,714 --> 00:23:15,823
So unfortunately, no. But maybe have Lena. We'll

615
00:23:15,823 --> 00:23:17,657
see. I I don't know yet. She's not

616
00:23:17,657 --> 00:23:19,344
running it. I I don't know if she's

617
00:23:19,344 --> 00:23:21,173
running it yet. So maybe look to race

618
00:23:21,173 --> 00:23:21,571
each other.

619
00:23:22,685 --> 00:23:23,560
That would be funny.

620
00:23:24,117 --> 00:23:26,345
So... That would be so funny if you're

621
00:23:26,345 --> 00:23:27,355
racing your coach. So

622
00:23:28,112 --> 00:23:28,431
Yeah.

623
00:23:29,228 --> 00:23:31,779
I mean, it's fine. Like, I'm sure it

624
00:23:31,779 --> 00:23:34,012
it be a little but, yeah, Like, you

625
00:23:34,012 --> 00:23:35,846
know, it's just like anything else like,

626
00:23:36,499 --> 00:23:39,131
I raised other friends. I I'm too, and

627
00:23:39,131 --> 00:23:40,269
it's just friendly

628
00:23:40,727 --> 00:23:40,886
competition.

629
00:23:42,003 --> 00:23:42,322
Yeah.

630
00:23:43,453 --> 00:23:45,834
So you... I saw you jumped into a

631
00:23:45,834 --> 00:23:47,579
half and ran, like, 01:21,

632
00:23:48,055 --> 00:23:48,555
and

633
00:23:49,086 --> 00:23:50,594
I'm so curious. Like...

634
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,859
You run hundred mile plus distances.

635
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,200
And I know obviously, you weren't training for

636
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,039
that 01:21. Just like, okay. What can I

637
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:00,359
do here?

638
00:24:01,814 --> 00:24:03,249
What does that, like,

639
00:24:04,365 --> 00:24:06,199
pain feel like? And what does that even,

640
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,511
like, how does a race like that even

641
00:24:08,511 --> 00:24:09,946
feel? It's such a small...

642
00:24:10,757 --> 00:24:12,825
Blip for what... From what you're used to.

643
00:24:13,780 --> 00:24:16,644
Oh, man. That 1 that I did that

644
00:24:16,644 --> 00:24:18,553
you're talking about the rock and roll. That

645
00:24:18,553 --> 00:24:21,291
was, like, not even a week before Jackpot

646
00:24:21,505 --> 00:24:22,458
20 23.

647
00:24:23,013 --> 00:24:23,989
And, honestly,

648
00:24:24,679 --> 00:24:26,187
I didn't have a coach at that point,

649
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,745
and it was funny because, like, I didn't

650
00:24:28,745 --> 00:24:30,335
really think it through. I was like, oh,

651
00:24:30,494 --> 00:24:32,402
you know, it's, like, just the speed out.

652
00:24:32,561 --> 00:24:34,230
We're gonna do on Sunday night and they

653
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:36,073
were... Gonna run a hundred miles on Friday,

654
00:24:36,232 --> 00:24:38,615
and, you know, it wasn't really well planned.

655
00:24:38,854 --> 00:24:40,761
I he was executed, but, like,

656
00:24:41,555 --> 00:24:44,984
I was pretty gonna sore and struggling. For,

657
00:24:45,064 --> 00:24:46,571
like, a day or 2 after that race.

658
00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:48,262
And because I heard like

659
00:24:48,794 --> 00:24:50,460
the best half for me. That was a

660
00:24:50,539 --> 00:24:51,674
P. So

661
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:53,118
the turnover.

662
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:54,443
Yeah.

663
00:24:55,078 --> 00:24:56,903
So I don't know. It it worked out.

664
00:24:57,141 --> 00:24:58,808
Like, I had APR at the hundred and

665
00:24:58,808 --> 00:25:00,419
2, so that was great. But

666
00:25:01,284 --> 00:25:03,906
this year, we tried it again, and it

667
00:25:03,906 --> 00:25:06,154
was, like, the opposite. It was the hundred

668
00:25:06,210 --> 00:25:07,323
had moved up a week.

669
00:25:07,973 --> 00:25:10,116
So I did jackpot, and then I did

670
00:25:10,116 --> 00:25:10,854
the half

671
00:25:11,306 --> 00:25:13,210
a week later, and I think my time

672
00:25:13,210 --> 00:25:14,798
was, like, a 01:28.

673
00:25:15,368 --> 00:25:17,668
And I tell like of you. Oh,

674
00:25:18,303 --> 00:25:20,841
it was bad. Like, I feel like I

675
00:25:20,841 --> 00:25:24,192
totally screw myself on recovery. Just... From Jack.

676
00:25:24,431 --> 00:25:26,664
That I didn't give myself a recovery. So

677
00:25:26,664 --> 00:25:28,977
we're never doing that again. That's... We're gonna

678
00:25:28,977 --> 00:25:31,609
pick a half. That's just not a week

679
00:25:31,609 --> 00:25:31,769
apart.

680
00:25:33,457 --> 00:25:34,355
So So

681
00:25:35,048 --> 00:25:36,321
before a week after...

682
00:25:36,798 --> 00:25:39,344
Like, for me, running a half is no

683
00:25:39,344 --> 00:25:41,664
big deal. It's, like, well, I just have

684
00:25:41,664 --> 00:25:43,572
to work hard for, like, less than an

685
00:25:43,572 --> 00:25:45,638
hour and a half. It's not like, okay.

686
00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:48,023
You gotta work hard for, like, 16 hours,

687
00:25:48,182 --> 00:25:49,318
Do you know? So

688
00:25:49,627 --> 00:25:50,499
full different.

689
00:25:51,212 --> 00:25:53,431
It hurts different too that it does hurt.

690
00:25:53,986 --> 00:25:57,413
Mh. Yeah. Yeah. Propensity of pat that hour

691
00:25:57,413 --> 00:25:59,486
and a half or hour half or whatever.

692
00:25:59,646 --> 00:26:01,959
It's like... I don't love. That's for sure.

693
00:26:02,757 --> 00:26:02,996
Yeah.

694
00:26:03,714 --> 00:26:04,852
How do you decide

695
00:26:05,788 --> 00:26:06,288
which

696
00:26:07,158 --> 00:26:09,789
races to do in this ultra space.

697
00:26:10,347 --> 00:26:13,238
The last 2 years, I've been more focusing

698
00:26:13,376 --> 00:26:16,659
on, like, what I'm... The best at, not

699
00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:18,813
so much what I'm gonna have the most

700
00:26:18,813 --> 00:26:20,726
fun at or, you know, whatever.

701
00:26:22,401 --> 00:26:24,075
Because I found the loop courses in the

702
00:26:24,075 --> 00:26:25,309
road stuff. I'm

703
00:26:25,927 --> 00:26:29,282
far more competitive than, you know, I've won

704
00:26:29,282 --> 00:26:31,120
some trail. Like I'm not gonna say I'm,

705
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,126
like, garbage on the trails because I'm not,

706
00:26:33,285 --> 00:26:35,992
But I'm definitely stronger suited on the road

707
00:26:35,992 --> 00:26:37,607
stuff because that's just my background.

708
00:26:37,982 --> 00:26:39,256
And I'm clumsy, like,

709
00:26:39,829 --> 00:26:40,890
you know? So

710
00:26:42,150 --> 00:26:43,990
yeah. The last 2 years, My... I mean,

711
00:26:44,150 --> 00:26:46,950
bad water's, like, the chip on my shoulder

712
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:48,884
where it's like that. Was, like, the goal

713
00:26:48,884 --> 00:26:50,164
race of the year. I mean, I would

714
00:26:50,164 --> 00:26:52,884
have loved to have P at Jackpot, but

715
00:26:52,884 --> 00:26:54,244
that's behind us. You know,

716
00:26:55,044 --> 00:26:57,212
it and now we're just really focusing on

717
00:26:57,212 --> 00:26:58,429
that. And

718
00:26:59,842 --> 00:27:00,342
H,

719
00:27:00,878 --> 00:27:03,031
that's another 1. I need a redemption race

720
00:27:03,031 --> 00:27:04,956
at because I didn't do so great at

721
00:27:04,956 --> 00:27:06,547
a hundred k a couple years ago, I

722
00:27:06,547 --> 00:27:08,934
got sick at that 1 too. So I'm

723
00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:11,321
gonna try to go big at that 1

724
00:27:11,321 --> 00:27:12,457
also. But

725
00:27:12,846 --> 00:27:14,194
I don't know. I mean you have got

726
00:27:14,194 --> 00:27:14,907
in October.

727
00:27:15,462 --> 00:27:18,158
Mh. Yeah. I mean, Try to go for...

728
00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:19,902
I am doing the hundred. Yeah.

729
00:27:20,793 --> 00:27:22,627
I'd love to try to be in contention

730
00:27:22,627 --> 00:27:24,541
for a ticket, like, a golden ticket, that'd

731
00:27:24,541 --> 00:27:26,854
be awesome. But like I said, the day

732
00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:29,247
just has to kinda, you know, has go

733
00:27:29,247 --> 00:27:30,146
well and

734
00:27:31,492 --> 00:27:33,084
yeah. I don't know. I mean,

735
00:27:33,879 --> 00:27:36,107
I'm not trying to put too much on

736
00:27:36,107 --> 00:27:38,989
the calendar because I have, like, this thought

737
00:27:38,989 --> 00:27:41,381
of maybe sliding 1 more in, but it's

738
00:27:41,381 --> 00:27:42,997
like, no. Like, we're just gonna,

739
00:27:43,453 --> 00:27:45,980
you know, scale back a little bit because

740
00:27:46,179 --> 00:27:48,492
last year, I just felt the fatigue big

741
00:27:48,492 --> 00:27:50,428
time at the end of the year, so

742
00:27:51,682 --> 00:27:54,075
I kinda wanna respect these races a little

743
00:27:54,075 --> 00:27:54,235
more.

744
00:27:55,351 --> 00:27:55,851
And

745
00:27:56,403 --> 00:27:59,356
I'm sure, probably at least 50 percent, maybe

746
00:27:59,356 --> 00:28:00,952
80 percent of the people listening know what

747
00:28:00,952 --> 00:28:02,628
you mean when you say golden ticket, but

748
00:28:02,628 --> 00:28:03,665
you're talking about Western states.

749
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:04,639
Yeah.

750
00:28:05,598 --> 00:28:05,757
Yeah.

751
00:28:06,636 --> 00:28:08,154
Well, I'm like, in case you, you know?

752
00:28:08,234 --> 00:28:10,551
Because, like, I do lean towards marathon. No.

753
00:28:10,791 --> 00:28:11,990
I know. Under sorry.

754
00:28:12,483 --> 00:28:14,156
No. Don't be sorry. I'm just like, I

755
00:28:14,156 --> 00:28:15,691
should clarify in case someone's

756
00:28:16,227 --> 00:28:17,502
new to, like, the ultra scene.

757
00:28:18,458 --> 00:28:19,732
Because I was gonna ask you that too,

758
00:28:19,812 --> 00:28:22,295
though, like, is Western states. On your bucket

759
00:28:22,295 --> 00:28:22,533
list.

760
00:28:23,646 --> 00:28:23,965
Yeah.

761
00:28:25,237 --> 00:28:27,304
I think it is on my list.

762
00:28:28,815 --> 00:28:30,802
Hard rock is also on my bucket list

763
00:28:30,802 --> 00:28:33,199
but maybe a little higher than Western states,

764
00:28:33,357 --> 00:28:35,762
but I think it's more like, the ticket

765
00:28:36,055 --> 00:28:38,198
chase would be more of a...

766
00:28:38,929 --> 00:28:41,645
Accomplishment it, obviously, in my opinion, like, you

767
00:28:41,645 --> 00:28:43,643
know, I I obviously, being at Western would

768
00:28:43,643 --> 00:28:44,941
be amazing, but

769
00:28:46,371 --> 00:28:47,880
Otherwise, it's just gonna take me, like, 6

770
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,627
years, like, everyone else, you know.

771
00:28:51,771 --> 00:28:53,598
You're... Yeah. You're saying to get in with

772
00:28:53,598 --> 00:28:55,768
the ticket. Like, getting that... With the ticket

773
00:28:55,768 --> 00:28:58,325
you get in sooner. Yeah. Without, I'm just

774
00:28:58,325 --> 00:29:00,643
gonna have to keep running these hundred cool...

775
00:29:00,883 --> 00:29:04,055
Or, like, the ticket qualifying races, which

776
00:29:04,731 --> 00:29:05,129
Yeah.

777
00:29:05,686 --> 00:29:06,721
This year, mine would be.

778
00:29:07,756 --> 00:29:09,928
I mean, I've I've been trying to qualify

779
00:29:10,064 --> 00:29:11,895
since maybe 29.

780
00:29:13,187 --> 00:29:15,422
18. I I remember at this point.

781
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:18,774
So but the golden ticket races,

782
00:29:20,051 --> 00:29:20,551
you

783
00:29:21,104 --> 00:29:22,458
corrects me if I'm wrong. You have to

784
00:29:22,458 --> 00:29:24,769
get top 2 at these golden ticket races?

785
00:29:25,326 --> 00:29:26,043
It varies.

786
00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:29,469
So have had stop 2. Okay. Some of

787
00:29:29,469 --> 00:29:31,397
them though 3 deep. So, like, I think

788
00:29:31,477 --> 00:29:33,949
Black Canyon goes 3 deep. But it's cool

789
00:29:33,949 --> 00:29:36,422
because Ara has 2 of those races, and

790
00:29:36,502 --> 00:29:38,735
I'm actually on the Air race team also.

791
00:29:38,894 --> 00:29:40,091
So that's exciting.

792
00:29:41,064 --> 00:29:41,464
Mh.

793
00:29:42,742 --> 00:29:44,660
Are you gonna be paying attention there with

794
00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:45,859
western states this weekend?

795
00:29:46,978 --> 00:29:48,576
Yeah. Yeah. I know I have a couple

796
00:29:48,576 --> 00:29:50,255
friends that are running it, so I was

797
00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:51,783
text them all today and I was like,

798
00:29:51,942 --> 00:29:54,011
oh, I'm rooting for you. Blah blah. Like,

799
00:29:54,250 --> 00:29:57,695
I sent Emily H text and Ryan Montgomery

800
00:29:57,752 --> 00:29:58,204
and them,

801
00:29:59,123 --> 00:30:01,121
Emily so nice. I love Emily. And she

802
00:30:01,121 --> 00:30:03,199
goes... She's been top time a couple years

803
00:30:03,199 --> 00:30:05,756
now, so she's a phenomenal runner. I met

804
00:30:05,756 --> 00:30:08,082
her at I am tough. Back in 20

805
00:30:08,082 --> 00:30:08,320
20.

806
00:30:09,831 --> 00:30:13,010
She crushed that race, and she'd beat, like,

807
00:30:13,089 --> 00:30:14,520
a lot of the boys too. It was

808
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,364
funny. Because she was, like, in front for

809
00:30:16,364 --> 00:30:17,880
a while and the guys were like, who

810
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,716
is this? And, like, what are they doing?

811
00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:21,493
So

812
00:30:22,030 --> 00:30:23,647
she's super cool. But

813
00:30:24,439 --> 00:30:26,348
Yeah. I'll I'll be following. I'll get my

814
00:30:26,348 --> 00:30:27,621
work workout in, and then I'll be able

815
00:30:27,621 --> 00:30:30,325
to focus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got time.

816
00:30:31,439 --> 00:30:33,763
Will, this episode will obviously come out. After

817
00:30:33,843 --> 00:30:35,379
Western states. But

818
00:30:36,155 --> 00:30:37,671
I have a... We have a new podcast

819
00:30:37,671 --> 00:30:39,904
in my network called the Trail Network podcast

820
00:30:39,904 --> 00:30:42,696
and so Rachel Drake and Leah Ying lane

821
00:30:42,696 --> 00:30:45,206
are both hosts on that podcast and they're

822
00:30:45,424 --> 00:30:47,260
running this weekend. So I'm gonna be excited

823
00:30:47,260 --> 00:30:48,936
to to track them. Yeah.

824
00:30:49,655 --> 00:30:50,394
They're great.

825
00:30:50,852 --> 00:30:51,730
Yeah. Be fun.

826
00:30:52,304 --> 00:30:54,857
Okay. So we'll probably air this. I guess

827
00:30:54,857 --> 00:30:57,251
it'll be closer to when you're going to

828
00:30:57,251 --> 00:30:58,847
bad water. I mean, where you're, like, a

829
00:30:58,847 --> 00:30:59,565
month away.

830
00:31:00,379 --> 00:31:00,778
Mh.

831
00:31:01,258 --> 00:31:03,495
Yeah. No. It's coming up. Most of us

832
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:05,573
marathon, like, we do, like, a typical 2

833
00:31:05,573 --> 00:31:07,651
week, maybe 3 week tape, Like, what does

834
00:31:07,651 --> 00:31:09,980
your life look like? The 3 weeks leading

835
00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:11,813
up to a bad water? And, like, what

836
00:31:11,813 --> 00:31:13,726
are you entering those 3 weeks at as

837
00:31:13,726 --> 00:31:15,160
far as like, how many miles a week

838
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,196
are you running and whatnot?

839
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:19,944
Well, I mean, I can't really tell you

840
00:31:19,944 --> 00:31:21,293
that far out. So I don't have my

841
00:31:21,293 --> 00:31:22,166
schedule yet, but,

842
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:23,619
typically,

843
00:31:24,484 --> 00:31:27,192
like, this Sunday, for example, will be...

844
00:31:27,910 --> 00:31:29,662
I mean, at this point, what's the date

845
00:31:29,662 --> 00:31:31,734
today? Today, but it's at the end of

846
00:31:31,734 --> 00:31:33,566
the month. So we're less than a month

847
00:31:33,566 --> 00:31:35,807
out. Is start of the 20 second... Yeah.

848
00:31:36,204 --> 00:31:38,349
So, like, for example, this weekend, I have,

849
00:31:38,508 --> 00:31:41,210
like, speed work, probably, like, 15, 60 miles

850
00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:43,634
on Saturday, and then I have 30 Mile

851
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:44,412
on Sunday,

852
00:31:44,812 --> 00:31:46,809
and then next week, and I'll probably have

853
00:31:46,809 --> 00:31:48,247
a hundred miles for the week and the

854
00:31:48,247 --> 00:31:50,005
next week, I'll probably have another hundred mile

855
00:31:50,005 --> 00:31:51,852
week, and I have a 50 k on

856
00:31:52,011 --> 00:31:52,511
Saturday.

857
00:31:53,204 --> 00:31:54,477
I have no idea what I'm gonna do

858
00:31:54,477 --> 00:31:57,262
on Sunday But, I mean, I would think

859
00:31:57,262 --> 00:31:59,251
maybe after that, we might...

860
00:32:00,141 --> 00:32:01,573
I don't know if she'll have me taper

861
00:32:01,573 --> 00:32:03,721
a week or too early. It depends. Like,

862
00:32:04,118 --> 00:32:06,425
definitely the week of, but, like,

863
00:32:06,919 --> 00:32:09,396
maybe for me tapering, though would be maybe,

864
00:32:09,556 --> 00:32:11,554
like, a 80 mile week,

865
00:32:12,193 --> 00:32:14,350
Mh 2 weeks out? Is that still, like,

866
00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:16,359
a lot less volume than what I'm used

867
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,307
to doing, but I get, like, restless. I

868
00:32:19,307 --> 00:32:20,423
don't know. I was Wondering.

869
00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:22,096
You get a little antsy.

870
00:32:22,669 --> 00:32:24,187
Yeah. I mean, I just feel like I'm

871
00:32:24,187 --> 00:32:25,945
not doing enough. You know? You're like, no

872
00:32:26,025 --> 00:32:27,543
I do with all this free time on

873
00:32:27,543 --> 00:32:28,422
my hands like...

874
00:32:29,301 --> 00:32:30,100
What do you do?

875
00:32:31,393 --> 00:32:34,187
Other than Run and eat and sleep things

876
00:32:34,187 --> 00:32:34,666
it'll work.

877
00:32:35,943 --> 00:32:37,082
You know, I

878
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:38,977
I like to hike. I like to do

879
00:32:38,977 --> 00:32:41,063
anything outdoors. Really, you know,

880
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:43,609
I like to... Well, in the summertime in

881
00:32:43,688 --> 00:32:45,438
Vegas, I like to go the pool, so

882
00:32:45,597 --> 00:32:46,552
I like to do that.

883
00:32:48,714 --> 00:32:50,781
You know, we usually just relax the for

884
00:32:50,781 --> 00:32:53,246
not running, we'll, like, lay down, watch a

885
00:32:53,246 --> 00:32:54,382
movie or something.

886
00:32:55,329 --> 00:32:57,170
And yeah, I'm really not that exciting.

887
00:32:59,009 --> 00:33:00,609
What does your boyfriend run a lot? Is

888
00:33:00,609 --> 00:33:01,890
he, like an ultra runner as well?

889
00:33:02,625 --> 00:33:05,904
Yeah. He did Western states last year, actually.

890
00:33:06,305 --> 00:33:08,945
He got him... It was his... Oh, Jeez.

891
00:33:09,105 --> 00:33:11,744
Wasn't his second hunter mile. Was his second...

892
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:14,705
Under me. He got in. Like, right away.

893
00:33:14,944 --> 00:33:16,934
Yeah. But did we get in with a

894
00:33:16,934 --> 00:33:18,844
plan ticket, how did he get in? No.

895
00:33:19,242 --> 00:33:21,799
He he had ran hurt 100 was his

896
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:23,624
first hundred, which is, like, a really hard

897
00:33:23,624 --> 00:33:26,482
1, and then he did Castle peek, so

898
00:33:26,482 --> 00:33:28,013
he had done 2 qualifier.

899
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:29,937
And then he got in

900
00:33:30,953 --> 00:33:34,143
with, like, yeah, Like, 2 years of tickets.

901
00:33:34,542 --> 00:33:37,174
And because, like... Okay. They still call at

902
00:33:37,174 --> 00:33:39,842
tickets. Because I have Golden it, like, your

903
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:41,015
just watery tickets.

904
00:33:43,246 --> 00:33:44,840
So... Yeah. He got in... And he's doing

905
00:33:44,919 --> 00:33:47,013
Lead bill this year. So we'll be out

906
00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:47,969
at that

907
00:33:48,425 --> 00:33:49,720
get like, August,

908
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,360
level bill 100. So it's a good 1.

909
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,360
I did that 1 in 20 22.

910
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920
It's the fun. So what kind of advice

911
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,960
are you giving him for that?

912
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,700
Well, I'm just always given them hard time

913
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:04,814
because we have different coaches, and, like, sometimes

914
00:34:04,869 --> 00:34:07,119
we'll have... Almost the same workout, but it's,

915
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,280
like, different pace of the week. So, like,

916
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,440
this week, I'm like, doing hills on Wednesday.

917
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:12,960
And I go, why aren't are you doing

918
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:14,719
Hills? Like, you're ready to let Bill, The

919
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,491
whole back half. Is that uphill. Like, I

920
00:34:16,491 --> 00:34:17,927
don't know what you're doing. And he's like,

921
00:34:18,087 --> 00:34:20,161
no. Like, I gotta go to the mountain

922
00:34:20,161 --> 00:34:22,555
and I have speed. So I don't know.

923
00:34:22,969 --> 00:34:24,570
I'm not his coach. I don't think he'd

924
00:34:24,570 --> 00:34:26,030
let me coach him. So

925
00:34:26,409 --> 00:34:29,050
that's fine. I used to coach actually. I

926
00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:30,489
I coach Cross country.

927
00:34:31,463 --> 00:34:33,210
When I was college, so that was fun.

928
00:34:33,448 --> 00:34:33,845
Mh.

929
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:35,195
Like, high school kids?

930
00:34:36,068 --> 00:34:38,950
Yeah. I posted at Not dame Academy

931
00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:43,302
in Toledo, Ohio. So... Okay. Mh. What was

932
00:34:43,302 --> 00:34:44,887
your favorite part about doing that?

933
00:34:47,043 --> 00:34:49,511
I he just really, like, rewarding, you know?

934
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:51,262
I mean, all these girls like, look up

935
00:34:51,262 --> 00:34:52,614
to you. We have, like, a team of,

936
00:34:52,694 --> 00:34:55,498
like, 40 girls, and You know, some days,

937
00:34:55,738 --> 00:34:57,416
I was, like, the only 1 in charge.

938
00:34:57,577 --> 00:34:59,175
And for me, it's, like, I'm not a

939
00:34:59,175 --> 00:35:01,592
school teacher. So, you know, it's a little

940
00:35:01,732 --> 00:35:03,510
scary at times. So

941
00:35:04,063 --> 00:35:04,940
so people.

942
00:35:05,657 --> 00:35:08,128
Yeah. It even, like their parents. Like, their

943
00:35:08,128 --> 00:35:11,156
parents were just so, like, thankful for, you

944
00:35:11,156 --> 00:35:13,716
know, like, experience that you're, like, offering their

945
00:35:13,716 --> 00:35:16,578
kids, and they just... You know, it's just

946
00:35:16,578 --> 00:35:17,691
a really good bang.

947
00:35:18,565 --> 00:35:20,632
And then you're just helping them I mean,

948
00:35:21,443 --> 00:35:23,358
I was... I think it was, like, 21

949
00:35:23,358 --> 00:35:24,795
at the time. So it wasn't fat much

950
00:35:24,795 --> 00:35:26,709
older than they were. Like, sometimes I go

951
00:35:26,709 --> 00:35:28,385
to, like, the school. So we'd be like,

952
00:35:28,465 --> 00:35:30,079
oh what what great are you in? And

953
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:31,360
they're like, no. No. No.

954
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:32,640
So...

955
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,699
Yeah. It is fun. I mean, if work

956
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,012
allowed for something like that. And be more

957
00:35:38,012 --> 00:35:40,956
willing to do it, I'll, but it's just

958
00:35:40,956 --> 00:35:41,195
like,

959
00:35:41,831 --> 00:35:43,503
I don't know. And I'm... I'm so hyper

960
00:35:43,503 --> 00:35:45,253
focused on my own running career at this

961
00:35:45,253 --> 00:35:46,447
0, you don't have time.

962
00:35:47,335 --> 00:35:48,231
It's a sacrifice.

963
00:35:48,603 --> 00:35:50,505
Like on Saturdays. When you're going to those

964
00:35:50,505 --> 00:35:52,168
meats, you're not getting the long run it.

965
00:35:52,406 --> 00:35:54,802
Like, your long long run is... Go over

966
00:35:54,802 --> 00:35:57,195
the be and chasing people around all day.

967
00:35:57,434 --> 00:36:00,226
So, yeah. It it was it was good.

968
00:36:00,545 --> 00:36:02,220
And the lady I coach with we're still

969
00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:04,076
really close to. So she was

970
00:36:04,547 --> 00:36:07,252
really, we can't to work with. So mh

971
00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:09,240
Yeah. You'll have to revisit that when you're

972
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,641
not doing hundreds anymore. I mean, I just

973
00:36:11,641 --> 00:36:12,356
when I retire.

974
00:36:14,104 --> 00:36:14,820
Yeah. Yeah.

975
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:18,316
Just... I mean, honestly, because it just...

976
00:36:19,288 --> 00:36:22,182
The amount that you work and such a

977
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:24,236
regular schedule.

978
00:36:24,715 --> 00:36:25,912
You know what I mean? Because a lot

979
00:36:25,912 --> 00:36:26,572
of people

980
00:36:28,161 --> 00:36:30,710
do this, like, balance with work and and

981
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:32,462
running lots of miles, but you have, like,

982
00:36:32,701 --> 00:36:33,817
hours you have to be.

983
00:36:34,709 --> 00:36:36,866
There, which I think would be really difficult.

984
00:36:37,026 --> 00:36:39,023
Like, you can't just be like, okay. I'm

985
00:36:39,023 --> 00:36:41,420
gonna work a little bit from, like, 5AM

986
00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:43,355
to 9. And then I'm gonna go for

987
00:36:43,355 --> 00:36:44,635
my run, and then... You know what I

988
00:36:44,635 --> 00:36:46,815
mean? Like, sounds like you a pretty

989
00:36:47,275 --> 00:36:47,775
regiment

990
00:36:48,795 --> 00:36:49,434
work time.

991
00:36:50,326 --> 00:36:52,467
Yeah. And, I mean, I've had it that

992
00:36:52,467 --> 00:36:54,371
way for years now. You know? I mean,

993
00:36:54,451 --> 00:36:56,354
it's better now than ever. I used to

994
00:36:56,354 --> 00:36:57,965
work for Tesla, and

995
00:36:58,273 --> 00:37:00,340
they would just change my schedule all the

996
00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:01,770
time. And when I say all the time,

997
00:37:01,929 --> 00:37:04,075
it was, like, you got 5 eights and

998
00:37:04,075 --> 00:37:05,719
then, like, a month later or you got

999
00:37:05,918 --> 00:37:08,625
4 tens, and it's these random days. So,

1000
00:37:08,784 --> 00:37:11,252
like, we're gonna change your workday days completely.

1001
00:37:11,411 --> 00:37:13,162
And then there was, like, some years where

1002
00:37:13,162 --> 00:37:15,347
it was, like, a different time a day

1003
00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:18,184
every day of the week, different each week,

1004
00:37:18,422 --> 00:37:20,011
and it was just, like, oh my gosh.

1005
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:22,077
Like, how does anybody have a normal,

1006
00:37:22,728 --> 00:37:25,830
life or running schedule or anything with these

1007
00:37:25,830 --> 00:37:28,455
things. So now I'm like, super thankful that

1008
00:37:28,614 --> 00:37:30,164
I'm back to, like, regular

1009
00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:32,293
at least it's like, I know what to

1010
00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:33,090
expect. I mean...

1011
00:37:33,807 --> 00:37:36,139
Yeah. There's no surprises. So

1012
00:37:37,804 --> 00:37:39,793
in Tesla would work you over time a

1013
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:41,702
ton too at, like, end of quarter. Like,

1014
00:37:42,099 --> 00:37:43,531
I think Jackpot 20 20,

1015
00:37:44,103 --> 00:37:46,649
I... They weren't giving me any extra days

1016
00:37:46,649 --> 00:37:49,115
off. So I had to work till 7

1017
00:37:49,115 --> 00:37:51,502
or 8PM, the night before the race. Oh,

1018
00:37:51,582 --> 00:37:52,718
my goodness. And then

1019
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:54,549
I had to go home, like, go to

1020
00:37:54,549 --> 00:37:56,469
bed and everything. And then I ran the

1021
00:37:56,469 --> 00:37:59,349
race. Luckily, I got done in, like, under

1022
00:37:59,349 --> 00:38:00,389
16 hours.

1023
00:38:00,964 --> 00:38:02,878
And then I had to do the drug

1024
00:38:02,878 --> 00:38:04,952
tests and everything and go back for awards

1025
00:38:04,952 --> 00:38:06,627
the next day. So I got barely any

1026
00:38:06,627 --> 00:38:06,866
sleep.

1027
00:38:07,504 --> 00:38:09,498
And then I think I had Saturday where

1028
00:38:09,658 --> 00:38:10,397
I just kinda

1029
00:38:11,588 --> 00:38:13,025
hung out and then Sunday, I had to

1030
00:38:13,025 --> 00:38:14,222
go back to work, Like, it was just

1031
00:38:14,222 --> 00:38:15,659
like, no. You don't get an extra day

1032
00:38:15,659 --> 00:38:17,895
off. It's end of quarter. Like, you know,

1033
00:38:18,135 --> 00:38:19,891
Tesla doesn't care if you gotta run a

1034
00:38:19,891 --> 00:38:21,204
hundred mile. So

1035
00:38:21,744 --> 00:38:23,105
Do they... I mean, do you do the

1036
00:38:23,105 --> 00:38:24,065
people you work with, like,

1037
00:38:24,704 --> 00:38:27,505
now and then have, like, any idea what

1038
00:38:27,505 --> 00:38:28,385
you actually do.

1039
00:38:29,834 --> 00:38:32,936
Yeah. I mean, like, my coworkers are supportive

1040
00:38:32,936 --> 00:38:34,846
of it for sure. And, like, my current

1041
00:38:34,846 --> 00:38:37,574
job, like, my boss... Like, posted something to

1042
00:38:37,735 --> 00:38:38,235
Linkedin

1043
00:38:38,535 --> 00:38:40,614
and, like, had of picture of me and

1044
00:38:40,614 --> 00:38:42,614
like, congrats, Sierra, and like, all the stuff,

1045
00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:45,035
like, they're super supportive of it. So

1046
00:38:45,509 --> 00:38:47,504
Yeah. No. They get it.

1047
00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:50,456
It's just when you work for a major

1048
00:38:50,456 --> 00:38:52,530
company like Tesla you're not really like...

1049
00:38:53,184 --> 00:38:55,184
It friends with the boss. Like, I've never

1050
00:38:55,184 --> 00:38:56,144
met Elon. So...

1051
00:38:57,905 --> 00:38:58,144
Yeah.

1052
00:38:58,864 --> 00:39:00,065
And that's probably a good thing.

1053
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,198
Did they give you a tesla?

1054
00:39:04,157 --> 00:39:05,355
No. No way.

1055
00:39:06,554 --> 00:39:08,391
And I don't drive a tesla. I'd I

1056
00:39:08,391 --> 00:39:09,110
drive a subaru roof.

1057
00:39:10,402 --> 00:39:11,436
Oh, my gosh.

1058
00:39:13,821 --> 00:39:15,730
Okay. So you have bad water.

1059
00:39:16,605 --> 00:39:17,877
What do you have before bad water or

1060
00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:19,467
anything? Did you... You said you a 50

1061
00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:19,547
k?

1062
00:39:20,359 --> 00:39:22,537
Oh, yeah. So I'm.

1063
00:39:23,635 --> 00:39:24,434
Silver tin,

1064
00:39:25,313 --> 00:39:28,371
Alpine 50 k, and that's Silver team Colorado.

1065
00:39:29,164 --> 00:39:31,477
Not this weekend but next weekend on Saturday.

1066
00:39:31,637 --> 00:39:33,174
So I think that's the

1067
00:39:33,631 --> 00:39:36,359
sixth. So I6I

1068
00:39:36,359 --> 00:39:38,836
saw Sabrina Stanley is signed up, which is

1069
00:39:38,836 --> 00:39:39,155
funny.

1070
00:39:39,715 --> 00:39:40,753
I don't know if you know who that

1071
00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:40,993
is.

1072
00:39:42,191 --> 00:39:44,204
She's 1 hard rock. And she lives in

1073
00:39:44,364 --> 00:39:45,885
Silver. I was like, what?

1074
00:39:46,764 --> 00:39:48,045
But now, it's okay.

1075
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1097
00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:51,393
How do you do with altitude? And like,

1098
00:40:51,553 --> 00:40:52,590
what's that like where you live?

1099
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,913
Vegas is that, like, 2 to 3 in

1100
00:40:56,913 --> 00:40:59,067
town, and then we actually...

1101
00:40:59,864 --> 00:41:02,017
Like, I can go up to our base

1102
00:41:02,017 --> 00:41:04,338
of our mountain, which is not Charleston and

1103
00:41:04,338 --> 00:41:05,924
run up the road, and it will go

1104
00:41:05,924 --> 00:41:07,986
up to, like, 8 something just on the

1105
00:41:07,986 --> 00:41:08,962
road. So

1106
00:41:09,572 --> 00:41:11,173
I do pretty well else. It is to.

1107
00:41:11,412 --> 00:41:13,161
Like, when I ran lead bill, and I've

1108
00:41:13,161 --> 00:41:15,568
done other, like, high altitude races. I've never

1109
00:41:15,624 --> 00:41:18,509
really struggled with, like, l sickness

1110
00:41:19,217 --> 00:41:21,927
Unless I'm, like, over 14 for very long,

1111
00:41:22,086 --> 00:41:25,273
like, I'm not getting sick or anything like

1112
00:41:25,512 --> 00:41:28,637
What is... The most beautiful mountain you've ever

1113
00:41:28,637 --> 00:41:28,876
peaked.

1114
00:41:29,594 --> 00:41:30,550
Oh, man.

1115
00:41:32,943 --> 00:41:35,096
Tasha has some really cool.

1116
00:41:35,668 --> 00:41:38,056
Peaks, like the Ta mountain range in Utah.

1117
00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:40,920
It's very similar to the San juan, which

1118
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,534
is where we're gonna be running Silver,

1119
00:41:45,153 --> 00:41:47,065
just, like, I'm trying to think,

1120
00:41:48,021 --> 00:41:50,331
Bell map was pretty cool. Was like, super

1121
00:41:50,331 --> 00:41:50,831
rocky.

1122
00:41:51,527 --> 00:41:52,960
I mean, I love Mount wait at me

1123
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,364
too. I mean It's just you know, it's

1124
00:41:55,364 --> 00:41:56,079
so epic.

1125
00:41:57,193 --> 00:41:59,021
Lang is a cool 1 2,

1126
00:42:00,850 --> 00:42:02,520
boundary peak. That's,

1127
00:42:02,933 --> 00:42:05,481
technically, the highest in Nevada, I wanna say,

1128
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,392
but it's on the border, so it's kinda

1129
00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:07,892
argue

1130
00:42:08,348 --> 00:42:09,702
arguably the highest.

1131
00:42:10,259 --> 00:42:10,759
Mh.

1132
00:42:11,947 --> 00:42:14,019
I'd like to do more. I've kinda, like,

1133
00:42:14,657 --> 00:42:16,569
calm them down on the peak bag and

1134
00:42:16,569 --> 00:42:17,627
with all these ultra,

1135
00:42:18,004 --> 00:42:18,800
it's kinda like,

1136
00:42:19,452 --> 00:42:20,804
Okay. Yeah if I gotta run a hundred

1137
00:42:20,804 --> 00:42:22,870
mile and go, you know, climb whole bunch

1138
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:23,347
of peaks.

1139
00:42:24,698 --> 00:42:27,321
But, yeah. No. It's fun, and I could.

1140
00:42:28,528 --> 00:42:30,115
Yeah. And you have you have time... It's

1141
00:42:30,115 --> 00:42:31,805
like, you have time to focus on that

1142
00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:33,844
in other part times in your life. Like,

1143
00:42:33,923 --> 00:42:35,352
you don't have to do that right now.

1144
00:42:35,764 --> 00:42:37,754
You've you got other focus. Yeah. I'm close

1145
00:42:37,754 --> 00:42:40,301
enough though. Like, this weekend, we'll be out

1146
00:42:40,301 --> 00:42:42,052
by loan Pine. So I'll be able to

1147
00:42:42,052 --> 00:42:45,180
see, like, Whitney and horseshoe meadows is the

1148
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:47,260
road we're gonna run up, and that's actually

1149
00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:49,260
gonna be the road that takes you the

1150
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:50,220
base of Lang.

1151
00:42:50,619 --> 00:42:53,742
So Okay. We'll get plenty of good views

1152
00:42:53,742 --> 00:42:54,298
of the peaks.

1153
00:42:55,969 --> 00:42:56,208
So...

1154
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,708
Okay. So 1 of my favorite questions to

1155
00:42:59,708 --> 00:42:59,947
ask.

1156
00:43:00,756 --> 00:43:03,294
Specifically ultra runners? I guess I asked shorter

1157
00:43:03,294 --> 00:43:05,777
distance runners as too, but how do you

1158
00:43:05,912 --> 00:43:06,626
have fun?

1159
00:43:07,833 --> 00:43:09,745
When you're like, hurting so bad? Like, how

1160
00:43:09,745 --> 00:43:11,817
do you marry those 2 things? Because you're

1161
00:43:11,817 --> 00:43:13,331
obviously doing that as well?

1162
00:43:15,258 --> 00:43:15,577
Yeah.

1163
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:17,806
I mean, I guess,

1164
00:43:18,682 --> 00:43:20,991
it's kind of like... And this is kind

1165
00:43:20,991 --> 00:43:22,663
like the beauty of, like, even, like, why

1166
00:43:22,663 --> 00:43:24,187
do I wanna go back. To bad water

1167
00:43:24,187 --> 00:43:25,614
and, like, you look at some of the

1168
00:43:25,614 --> 00:43:26,723
pictures and me out there and you're like,

1169
00:43:26,881 --> 00:43:28,149
I don't know why this girl wants to

1170
00:43:28,149 --> 00:43:29,441
work. Crazy.

1171
00:43:30,130 --> 00:43:32,537
But to. Yeah. I know. My dad was

1172
00:43:32,537 --> 00:43:34,615
crying at the finish line. Maybe he's like,

1173
00:43:34,934 --> 00:43:37,252
0 you're 1 tough, like, son of a

1174
00:43:37,252 --> 00:43:38,530
whatever, and I'm just, like,

1175
00:43:39,265 --> 00:43:41,025
I mean, like, I don't cry, but, like,

1176
00:43:41,265 --> 00:43:44,385
seeing him cry, like, how worried he was

1177
00:43:44,385 --> 00:43:45,265
is, like, oh my gosh.

1178
00:43:46,479 --> 00:43:48,315
But, no. I think a lot of it's

1179
00:43:48,315 --> 00:43:48,794
just like,

1180
00:43:49,751 --> 00:43:50,251
we're

1181
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:54,540
lucky that we have the opportunity to, like...

1182
00:43:55,114 --> 00:43:58,224
Experience these kinds of, like, highs and lows

1183
00:43:58,224 --> 00:44:00,696
and, like, a controlled, like, it would say

1184
00:44:00,696 --> 00:44:01,414
safe setting.

1185
00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:05,571
You know, and it's just it is beautiful

1186
00:44:05,571 --> 00:44:06,605
to be able to, like, come out of

1187
00:44:06,605 --> 00:44:07,718
it and be, like, well, look,

1188
00:44:08,514 --> 00:44:10,025
you know, look what I did or look

1189
00:44:10,025 --> 00:44:11,933
what I accomplished. And I didn't give up

1190
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:14,173
and, like, you know, it may not seem

1191
00:44:14,173 --> 00:44:16,318
like it's all fun in the moment. But,

1192
00:44:16,398 --> 00:44:17,748
like, you know, you go through your highs

1193
00:44:17,748 --> 00:44:18,940
and your lows, then it's...

1194
00:44:19,988 --> 00:44:22,615
Kind of, like, I mean, doing drugs. I

1195
00:44:22,695 --> 00:44:24,367
I don't do drugs, but, like, I would

1196
00:44:24,367 --> 00:44:26,675
imagine, like, with your endorsements and everything too,

1197
00:44:26,835 --> 00:44:27,892
you know? So

1198
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,546
it's addict. It's just... It's really fun, and

1199
00:44:31,546 --> 00:44:33,853
you get to meet great people. Like, you

1200
00:44:33,853 --> 00:44:35,366
know, I've made a lot of friends at

1201
00:44:35,525 --> 00:44:37,378
Alt and just

1202
00:44:38,007 --> 00:44:40,079
ultra runners are all good people. Like, you

1203
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:41,216
just have a lot of

1204
00:44:41,752 --> 00:44:44,142
unique, like, shared experiences. I, I'm met my

1205
00:44:44,142 --> 00:44:44,620
boyfriend,

1206
00:44:44,954 --> 00:44:47,192
running, Like, at a birthday run, we did

1207
00:44:47,192 --> 00:44:49,750
40 miles at Tahoe. So it's like, you

1208
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:50,229
know, like,

1209
00:44:50,948 --> 00:44:53,286
stuff comes from that. So

1210
00:44:54,704 --> 00:44:57,196
from Yeah. I mean, that would be my

1211
00:44:57,196 --> 00:45:00,093
answer. It's just like a great way to

1212
00:45:00,312 --> 00:45:02,230
go through the highs and the lows and,

1213
00:45:02,563 --> 00:45:04,396
No. You're gonna be okay. Like, it's it's

1214
00:45:04,396 --> 00:45:06,650
gonna be over eventually. So

1215
00:45:07,425 --> 00:45:09,497
it makes... You can, like, channel that to

1216
00:45:09,497 --> 00:45:11,660
all areas the life too. Right? Like, I

1217
00:45:11,660 --> 00:45:13,171
feel like, I wouldn't be as hard of

1218
00:45:13,171 --> 00:45:14,626
a worker if I wasn't,

1219
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:18,101
you know, putting myself in those uncomfortable problem

1220
00:45:18,101 --> 00:45:18,601
solving

1221
00:45:19,215 --> 00:45:21,293
situations. Like, in my free time. So...

1222
00:45:21,927 --> 00:45:23,353
I love that you met your boyfriend at

1223
00:45:23,353 --> 00:45:24,463
a 40 mile run,

1224
00:45:25,177 --> 00:45:26,286
like, group run.

1225
00:45:27,396 --> 00:45:27,530
In

1226
00:45:28,682 --> 00:45:31,065
Yeah. He didn't... For the record, he didn't

1227
00:45:31,065 --> 00:45:34,085
do the whole 40 miles, but he he

1228
00:45:34,085 --> 00:45:35,856
had a different race that morning.

1229
00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:39,187
And then he showed up halfway through within

1230
00:45:39,187 --> 00:45:42,050
and out for everyone. So everybody was like,

1231
00:45:42,289 --> 00:45:44,038
okay guy. This guy cool.

1232
00:45:44,849 --> 00:45:46,128
We'll let him hang out along.

1233
00:45:47,007 --> 00:45:47,965
He's feeding us.

1234
00:45:48,765 --> 00:45:50,443
Yeah. We were all starving at that point.

1235
00:45:50,682 --> 00:45:52,520
I think we're, like, 20 miles in, and

1236
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,501
it was it was in Tahoe in November

1237
00:45:55,557 --> 00:45:58,576
and a snowstorm was, like, coming that night.

1238
00:45:58,815 --> 00:46:00,880
So it's just... I was miserable because I

1239
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,802
hate the cold. I was, like, this is

1240
00:46:02,802 --> 00:46:03,041
bad.

1241
00:46:03,995 --> 00:46:05,665
But... No. It's was better to have, like,

1242
00:46:05,904 --> 00:46:07,017
good companies. So...

1243
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:09,641
You live in the right place then. So

1244
00:46:09,641 --> 00:46:10,993
wait, did so does see live in Vegas

1245
00:46:10,993 --> 00:46:11,232
too?

1246
00:46:11,962 --> 00:46:12,279
Mh.

1247
00:46:12,914 --> 00:46:14,977
Okay. Was he already there or did he

1248
00:46:14,977 --> 00:46:16,882
move there to be with you? No. He

1249
00:46:16,882 --> 00:46:17,596
lived in reno.

1250
00:46:18,152 --> 00:46:19,762
So he to leave

1251
00:46:20,469 --> 00:46:21,210
the north

1252
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:22,329
I'm down

1253
00:46:22,949 --> 00:46:24,170
So what are your biggest

1254
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:27,269
goals from here on out? Like, obviously, the

1255
00:46:27,269 --> 00:46:28,962
short term goal right now is, like, said

1256
00:46:28,962 --> 00:46:30,311
you wanna win bad? You wanna have a

1257
00:46:30,311 --> 00:46:31,898
good race there, But, like, what are your

1258
00:46:31,898 --> 00:46:33,405
long term goals with the sport?

1259
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,278
Yeah.

1260
00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:38,182
So You definitely, I... You know, I'd love

1261
00:46:38,182 --> 00:46:38,682
to

1262
00:46:39,215 --> 00:46:41,914
redeem myself at bad water and potentially pull

1263
00:46:41,914 --> 00:46:43,844
off a win at that. And then,

1264
00:46:44,715 --> 00:46:47,275
you know, the golden ticket thing. That seems

1265
00:46:47,275 --> 00:46:49,295
like that maybe the next

1266
00:46:49,675 --> 00:46:51,914
thing to chase in the immediate future.

1267
00:46:53,448 --> 00:46:54,186
And then,

1268
00:46:54,797 --> 00:46:56,940
yeah. I mean, I'm definitely not satisfied with

1269
00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:59,797
900 mile p. Either... Look, I think we

1270
00:46:59,797 --> 00:47:01,884
can do some work on that. And

1271
00:47:03,073 --> 00:47:05,251
I'd like to get closer to break in

1272
00:47:05,311 --> 00:47:07,468
15 and more in that range and just

1273
00:47:07,468 --> 00:47:10,639
see what's possible, you know? And, yeah. Just

1274
00:47:10,999 --> 00:47:13,077
continue to grow in the sport. I mean,

1275
00:47:13,476 --> 00:47:15,074
I feel like I've already came a long

1276
00:47:15,074 --> 00:47:17,471
way since my first 1 back in 20

1277
00:47:17,471 --> 00:47:18,644
19 and

1278
00:47:19,002 --> 00:47:21,147
you know, you just gotta see what works

1279
00:47:21,147 --> 00:47:23,292
for you and takes a lot of trial

1280
00:47:23,292 --> 00:47:25,619
and error to figure it all out. So

1281
00:47:26,247 --> 00:47:28,315
Yeah. 5 years, and the grand scheme of

1282
00:47:28,315 --> 00:47:30,224
things like, it is a lot of years,

1283
00:47:30,304 --> 00:47:33,182
but it's really not that many years. Of

1284
00:47:33,182 --> 00:47:35,410
hundred mile. I mean, in those 5 years,

1285
00:47:35,489 --> 00:47:38,035
you've packed in quite a bit, though. Mh.

1286
00:47:38,432 --> 00:47:38,751
Yeah.

1287
00:47:39,546 --> 00:47:41,793
It's taking it more seriously, I guess, if

1288
00:47:41,793 --> 00:47:43,229
you will, because there living a year I

1289
00:47:43,229 --> 00:47:45,223
did, like, 6 in a year, and that's

1290
00:47:45,223 --> 00:47:47,376
just, like, no elites are doing that. Like...

1291
00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:48,731
Yeah. And, you know,

1292
00:47:49,623 --> 00:47:52,652
the increase in my performance shows when I

1293
00:47:52,652 --> 00:47:54,486
kinda scale back on the whole. Like, we're

1294
00:47:54,486 --> 00:47:55,921
not gonna do 3 in a month. Like,

1295
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,882
that's just crazy. Like, it seemed it was

1296
00:47:58,882 --> 00:48:01,267
fun, but, like, I'm not being, like, super

1297
00:48:01,267 --> 00:48:03,494
competitive at any of those 3. I'm just

1298
00:48:03,494 --> 00:48:05,663
surviving at that point. You know. So

1299
00:48:06,528 --> 00:48:07,640
What do you think you got out of

1300
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,434
that though? Like,

1301
00:48:09,069 --> 00:48:10,498
why did you... Why do you think you

1302
00:48:10,498 --> 00:48:12,642
did that many so often and then, like,

1303
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,468
what what did you gain from it?

1304
00:48:15,198 --> 00:48:17,269
So the real reason why I did all

1305
00:48:17,269 --> 00:48:17,769
3

1306
00:48:18,385 --> 00:48:21,253
the long answer was because, you know, these...

1307
00:48:21,492 --> 00:48:23,324
All these races now. They all have, like,

1308
00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:23,983
lotte.

1309
00:48:24,454 --> 00:48:26,692
Like, waitlist list, and it's just like, it's

1310
00:48:26,692 --> 00:48:28,370
not like, how it used to be where

1311
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:30,208
you can just go do whatever race you

1312
00:48:30,208 --> 00:48:32,126
want. And, like, you know, everybody has there

1313
00:48:32,126 --> 00:48:35,012
they're, like, bucket list, races and, Cafe Crest,

1314
00:48:35,567 --> 00:48:37,892
Angels Stressed, and Lead bill were all on

1315
00:48:38,106 --> 00:48:39,717
the list. And then

1316
00:48:40,248 --> 00:48:43,122
I just they all do them at different

1317
00:48:43,122 --> 00:48:45,028
times too, like, when you have to, like,

1318
00:48:45,347 --> 00:48:47,412
enter the lottery or find out. So you

1319
00:48:47,412 --> 00:48:48,047
can't really, like,

1320
00:48:48,777 --> 00:48:52,059
totally strategically plan your whole seasons. It's all,

1321
00:48:52,593 --> 00:48:54,421
you know, at the mercy of whatever the

1322
00:48:54,421 --> 00:48:56,113
lottery decides. So

1323
00:48:56,422 --> 00:48:57,137
that year,

1324
00:48:57,614 --> 00:48:59,440
I entered Lead with friends,

1325
00:48:59,838 --> 00:49:01,823
like, as a group lottery, and that was

1326
00:49:01,823 --> 00:49:04,921
my third year doing it, but first year

1327
00:49:04,921 --> 00:49:06,764
as a group. And I never got in

1328
00:49:06,764 --> 00:49:08,275
the other 2. So I was, like, not

1329
00:49:08,275 --> 00:49:10,423
really counting on getting in, and I got

1330
00:49:10,423 --> 00:49:12,570
in. So I found that out over, like...

1331
00:49:12,984 --> 00:49:14,100
I think it was, like New Year's Eve.

1332
00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:15,217
And at that point,

1333
00:49:15,855 --> 00:49:17,768
I think this was a year after 20

1334
00:49:17,768 --> 00:49:19,364
20 and 20 21. There was a lot

1335
00:49:19,364 --> 00:49:20,320
of cancellations.

1336
00:49:21,118 --> 00:49:21,916
I had been...

1337
00:49:22,568 --> 00:49:24,898
On the Cascade crest waitlist list

1338
00:49:25,274 --> 00:49:28,537
rolled over twice or something, and totally forgot.

1339
00:49:29,094 --> 00:49:31,243
And then I was on the A waitlist

1340
00:49:31,243 --> 00:49:31,561
list,

1341
00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:33,574
got the email about that,

1342
00:49:34,695 --> 00:49:37,434
needed a hard rock qualifier, so I accepted.

1343
00:49:37,655 --> 00:49:39,414
Because I'm like, well, you know,

1344
00:49:40,295 --> 00:49:41,175
I might as well.

1345
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:44,537
And then after that, I got up off

1346
00:49:44,537 --> 00:49:46,311
the waitlist list for Cascade.

1347
00:49:46,927 --> 00:49:47,723
And then I'm, like,

1348
00:49:48,361 --> 00:49:49,874
who knows when I'm gonna be able to

1349
00:49:49,874 --> 00:49:50,751
do these again?

1350
00:49:51,244 --> 00:49:51,744
And

1351
00:49:52,123 --> 00:49:54,201
everybody had these, like, grand slam or, like,

1352
00:49:54,361 --> 00:49:57,158
you know, the Sally did her, like, she's

1353
00:49:57,158 --> 00:49:59,316
was strong or, you know, like, all these,

1354
00:49:59,396 --> 00:50:00,215
like, crazy

1355
00:50:01,247 --> 00:50:03,560
whatever. So I'm like, what, why not just

1356
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,916
do this thing? I'm gonna call it to

1357
00:50:04,996 --> 00:50:06,989
Seriously. I'm like, I'm gonna do all 3.

1358
00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:09,223
It's gonna be in the summer of 20

1359
00:50:09,223 --> 00:50:10,235
22 and

1360
00:50:10,914 --> 00:50:13,075
So I did it, and it was fun.

1361
00:50:13,235 --> 00:50:14,595
I mean, I I had a good time

1362
00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:16,755
with it. And I don't have any regrets.

1363
00:50:16,994 --> 00:50:18,114
I mean, I'd like to go back and

1364
00:50:18,114 --> 00:50:19,570
run a fast time at Led bill. I

1365
00:50:19,570 --> 00:50:21,570
think I could do that. And I'd like

1366
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:23,890
to do the actual Ac course because it

1367
00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:25,489
was the out and back here, so that.

1368
00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:28,699
Was a little unfortunate, but your No. It

1369
00:50:28,699 --> 00:50:29,755
taught me a lot

1370
00:50:30,603 --> 00:50:32,055
you know, about sticking

1371
00:50:32,586 --> 00:50:34,728
through the tough times because, I mean,

1372
00:50:35,379 --> 00:50:37,295
you know, it's not really easy to ask

1373
00:50:37,295 --> 00:50:38,593
your body to do that

1374
00:50:39,051 --> 00:50:41,126
2 weeks out from each 1. And...

1375
00:50:43,442 --> 00:50:43,760
Yeah.

1376
00:50:44,574 --> 00:50:46,332
That was that was a fun summer.

1377
00:50:47,371 --> 00:50:49,449
I had some, like, help stuff going on

1378
00:50:49,449 --> 00:50:51,367
at that point too. So my mind wasn't,

1379
00:50:51,527 --> 00:50:53,365
like, a hundred percent where it needed to

1380
00:50:53,365 --> 00:50:54,185
be, but

1381
00:50:54,896 --> 00:50:57,679
good distraction, I guess, at the Alt. So...

1382
00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:01,098
And you got through whatever that was okay,

1383
00:51:01,257 --> 00:51:02,132
and everything's fine.

1384
00:51:02,784 --> 00:51:06,304
Yep. Yep. No. It's just women's health type

1385
00:51:06,304 --> 00:51:08,464
stuff fun fun stuff where you're,

1386
00:51:09,184 --> 00:51:11,025
you know, I don't know. It's just...

1387
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:12,960
Your girls spun sometimes.

1388
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,440
0I0I

1389
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,679
hear you. I've I've gotten all the parts

1390
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:19,848
removed at this point. So I feel it.

1391
00:51:21,041 --> 00:51:21,439
Yeah.

1392
00:51:21,996 --> 00:51:24,065
Okay. That's why I lost the crew member.

1393
00:51:24,304 --> 00:51:26,555
1 of them has that surgery for that

1394
00:51:26,612 --> 00:51:29,015
reason as well, and it's... From last year,

1395
00:51:29,174 --> 00:51:31,084
you know, and it's just, like, such a

1396
00:51:31,084 --> 00:51:33,152
bummer. I mean, as happened with me, I'd

1397
00:51:33,152 --> 00:51:34,585
have part of my Ce removed.

1398
00:51:35,714 --> 00:51:37,230
And I had found out about it, like,

1399
00:51:37,389 --> 00:51:39,224
right before 1 of the hundreds. And then

1400
00:51:39,303 --> 00:51:40,978
Yeah. I had to wait, like, 6 months

1401
00:51:40,978 --> 00:51:42,733
to do it. So that was that was

1402
00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:43,712
cool. But

1403
00:51:44,248 --> 00:51:45,046
anyway, That was good.

1404
00:51:46,018 --> 00:51:46,737
Yeah. It's

1405
00:51:48,254 --> 00:51:49,690
it's can be emotional too.

1406
00:51:50,967 --> 00:51:53,681
It is, and it's scary because, like, you

1407
00:51:53,681 --> 00:51:55,606
know, they just call you, and they tell

1408
00:51:55,606 --> 00:51:57,751
you, like, your test results, and they're just,

1409
00:51:57,831 --> 00:52:00,293
like, the person who's calling you doesn't really

1410
00:52:00,293 --> 00:52:02,279
know what they're talking about. They don't really

1411
00:52:02,279 --> 00:52:02,597
care,

1412
00:52:03,169 --> 00:52:05,007
they just drop this bomb on you, and

1413
00:52:05,007 --> 00:52:07,164
then they're like, oh, we'll have to call

1414
00:52:07,164 --> 00:52:09,242
you back to schedule your procedure blah blah

1415
00:52:09,322 --> 00:52:11,400
Blah. You're like, am I dying? Like, what's...

1416
00:52:11,574 --> 00:52:14,631
Going on, you know, I'd like here. So

1417
00:52:15,010 --> 00:52:16,608
I don't know. I mean, for me, it

1418
00:52:16,608 --> 00:52:18,525
was, like, I didn't have cancer, but it

1419
00:52:18,525 --> 00:52:21,097
was, like, what's 1 step away from having

1420
00:52:21,097 --> 00:52:23,914
cancer. So was pretty scary, like, being

1421
00:52:24,373 --> 00:52:26,611
30... Like, early thirties and being, like, what

1422
00:52:26,611 --> 00:52:28,150
the heck. And then you're at the

1423
00:52:28,543 --> 00:52:30,774
lady doctor and all these people are happy

1424
00:52:30,774 --> 00:52:32,766
that are, like, having babies and stuff. And

1425
00:52:32,766 --> 00:52:34,359
you're like, I'm just sad. Like,

1426
00:52:35,076 --> 00:52:37,227
I'm not here for something happy. You,

1427
00:52:38,197 --> 00:52:38,697
So

1428
00:52:39,230 --> 00:52:40,978
anyway... Can we think about that at the

1429
00:52:41,058 --> 00:52:42,091
Ob g way, like,

1430
00:52:43,124 --> 00:52:44,395
the range of...

1431
00:52:45,681 --> 00:52:47,190
Patients that are in that... Emotions?

1432
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:51,000
Yeah. You've got like people having miscarriage, people

1433
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,398
about to give birth, people who might have

1434
00:52:53,398 --> 00:52:54,994
a lump in their breasts or, you know,

1435
00:52:55,153 --> 00:52:56,291
like all these different

1436
00:52:57,147 --> 00:52:58,822
situations just sitting in that waiting room, and

1437
00:52:58,822 --> 00:53:00,577
you have no idea what anybody else is

1438
00:53:00,577 --> 00:53:02,331
there for unless, of course, they're like super

1439
00:53:02,331 --> 00:53:02,731
pregnant.

1440
00:53:03,304 --> 00:53:03,545
The right.

1441
00:53:04,505 --> 00:53:06,344
You know, But but you didn't even know,

1442
00:53:06,424 --> 00:53:08,025
like what the status of that is, you

1443
00:53:08,025 --> 00:53:10,125
know, it's like, it's such a wild

1444
00:53:10,758 --> 00:53:12,033
really a wild place to be.

1445
00:53:13,467 --> 00:53:15,698
That's pretty wild to me that you were

1446
00:53:15,698 --> 00:53:16,835
going through all that

1447
00:53:17,211 --> 00:53:17,711
amidst

1448
00:53:18,023 --> 00:53:19,537
running all those hundreds. Like,

1449
00:53:20,254 --> 00:53:22,643
I know you said good distraction, but sometimes

1450
00:53:22,643 --> 00:53:24,236
when I'm in those, like, fearful moments with

1451
00:53:24,236 --> 00:53:26,728
health. I like can't pull myself up to

1452
00:53:27,277 --> 00:53:29,183
do anything and the fact that you were,

1453
00:53:29,262 --> 00:53:31,486
like, just carrying on and continuing to run

1454
00:53:31,486 --> 00:53:32,304
is really

1455
00:53:33,234 --> 00:53:34,505
impressive. I don't know if that's the right

1456
00:53:34,505 --> 00:53:34,743
word.

1457
00:53:35,794 --> 00:53:36,273
Well,

1458
00:53:37,392 --> 00:53:38,351
for the record,

1459
00:53:38,911 --> 00:53:41,547
the first 1 was Angels crest, and I

1460
00:53:41,547 --> 00:53:43,226
was a mess. Like, I was like, crying

1461
00:53:43,226 --> 00:53:46,274
the whole way. To 2 right wood just

1462
00:53:46,274 --> 00:53:48,508
because I was like, you know, I don't

1463
00:53:48,508 --> 00:53:50,743
know. The conclusion I had the night before

1464
00:53:50,743 --> 00:53:52,074
that... Well, I had

1465
00:53:52,593 --> 00:53:54,110
Had drank the day before the race tubes.

1466
00:53:54,349 --> 00:53:56,584
I was pretty upset, But Yeah. The night

1467
00:53:56,584 --> 00:53:57,941
before I'm like, you know what? I'm not

1468
00:53:57,941 --> 00:53:59,458
scared of running a hundred mile, but I

1469
00:53:59,458 --> 00:54:00,949
am scared of dying. So

1470
00:54:01,465 --> 00:54:01,704
Yeah.

1471
00:54:02,657 --> 00:54:04,641
I think that was just tough for me.

1472
00:54:06,308 --> 00:54:07,340
But, yeah. I mean,

1473
00:54:08,055 --> 00:54:09,643
I dealt with that up until...

1474
00:54:10,294 --> 00:54:11,673
I had just more clearer

1475
00:54:12,132 --> 00:54:14,849
answers, and, yeah. It's hard. It's hard to

1476
00:54:14,849 --> 00:54:16,927
get in your head. And, I mean, getting

1477
00:54:16,927 --> 00:54:19,415
through these hundreds is not hard. Because you,

1478
00:54:19,494 --> 00:54:21,082
like, do it so much. You know you're

1479
00:54:21,082 --> 00:54:23,464
gonna be okay most time, but, like, you

1480
00:54:23,464 --> 00:54:23,702
know,

1481
00:54:24,417 --> 00:54:26,481
help the scary. Because this just, like, this

1482
00:54:26,481 --> 00:54:28,322
is out of my control. Like, this is

1483
00:54:28,322 --> 00:54:30,628
not something I have any power over, and

1484
00:54:30,628 --> 00:54:32,082
it makes you feel very

1485
00:54:32,457 --> 00:54:32,957
powerless,

1486
00:54:33,331 --> 00:54:34,467
I guess. So

1487
00:54:35,876 --> 00:54:37,679
yeah. It was tough. This is tough. This

1488
00:54:37,879 --> 00:54:39,472
time for sure. Yeah.

1489
00:54:40,348 --> 00:54:42,818
Alright. What is something professionally or personally you

1490
00:54:42,818 --> 00:54:44,411
would like to do? Well, we've kinda covered

1491
00:54:44,411 --> 00:54:46,563
this, but... This can be outside of running

1492
00:54:46,563 --> 00:54:47,280
to, but

1493
00:54:47,854 --> 00:54:49,452
I always wrap up with this question. What

1494
00:54:49,452 --> 00:54:50,031
is something

1495
00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:52,008
professionally or personally you'd like to do that

1496
00:54:52,008 --> 00:54:54,244
you haven't done yet. And, definitely, I'd like

1497
00:54:54,244 --> 00:54:56,900
to travel more. I mean, I feel like

1498
00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:59,460
20 20 kinda, like, put a damper on

1499
00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:01,159
everything with that. Like, I've

1500
00:55:01,873 --> 00:55:04,253
you know, and not just with racing and

1501
00:55:04,253 --> 00:55:06,235
running either. Like, I used to kinda go

1502
00:55:06,235 --> 00:55:07,821
out of the country every year in, like,

1503
00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:09,510
see new places, but,

1504
00:55:09,898 --> 00:55:10,637
my passport

1505
00:55:11,011 --> 00:55:13,077
is now expired. And I need to renew

1506
00:55:13,077 --> 00:55:13,236
it.

1507
00:55:14,429 --> 00:55:16,995
Yeah. So just see more things then

1508
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:19,608
I need to probably to focus on getting

1509
00:55:19,608 --> 00:55:21,355
home more too, like, now that I have

1510
00:55:21,355 --> 00:55:22,253
more of a regular

1511
00:55:22,626 --> 00:55:24,929
schedule just because, you know, my parents are

1512
00:55:24,929 --> 00:55:26,144
getting older and everything.

1513
00:55:27,570 --> 00:55:29,090
Yeah. And I've I mean,

1514
00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:31,349
other than trying to just

1515
00:55:31,809 --> 00:55:33,349
improve my running and

1516
00:55:34,944 --> 00:55:37,099
probably advance in my career too. Like, I

1517
00:55:37,099 --> 00:55:39,014
actually... You know, I'm like, happy with what

1518
00:55:39,093 --> 00:55:40,849
I'm doing at this point, and I feel

1519
00:55:40,849 --> 00:55:43,889
like there's opportunity for growth and with Tesla

1520
00:55:44,048 --> 00:55:45,398
I just didn't feel that way. It I

1521
00:55:45,398 --> 00:55:47,066
was very, like, stagnant. So,

1522
00:55:48,496 --> 00:55:51,037
yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited for what's to

1523
00:55:51,037 --> 00:55:51,934
come. So

1524
00:55:52,561 --> 00:55:54,466
will your dad come back to bad water?

1525
00:55:55,418 --> 00:55:55,657
Oh,

1526
00:55:56,371 --> 00:55:59,387
he can't this year because actually, he's...

1527
00:56:00,195 --> 00:56:02,969
Been diagnosed with cancer, so he's gonna be

1528
00:56:02,969 --> 00:56:03,786
going through

1529
00:56:04,476 --> 00:56:06,537
radiation, I think right around the same time.

1530
00:56:06,854 --> 00:56:07,354
So

1531
00:56:07,742 --> 00:56:10,047
he would, if he could, but I don't

1532
00:56:10,047 --> 00:56:11,795
think you're spirit. I don't think he can.

1533
00:56:11,954 --> 00:56:14,497
Yeah. I know as a bummer because I

1534
00:56:14,497 --> 00:56:16,739
think he really wanted to go, but I

1535
00:56:16,739 --> 00:56:18,900
like no. You gotta focus on this and

1536
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:20,739
being in a hundred and 20 degree. He

1537
00:56:20,739 --> 00:56:22,739
is not gonna no for you right now.

1538
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:23,400
So

1539
00:56:23,794 --> 00:56:25,389
you can tell them you're gonna feel and

1540
00:56:25,389 --> 00:56:26,905
look a lot better than you did last

1541
00:56:26,905 --> 00:56:27,065
year.

1542
00:56:28,023 --> 00:56:29,938
We'll have to get lots of photos and

1543
00:56:29,938 --> 00:56:32,108
give lots of updates. Yeah. You know? Look,

1544
00:56:32,187 --> 00:56:34,742
this is actually fun dad. Look, I don't

1545
00:56:34,742 --> 00:56:35,300
look dead.

1546
00:56:37,455 --> 00:56:39,610
No. Everybody at the finish was like, oh

1547
00:56:39,610 --> 00:56:41,302
my god. I'm like, I know. I feel

1548
00:56:41,302 --> 00:56:42,739
like that. Like, you don't need to tell

1549
00:56:42,739 --> 00:56:44,255
me. Like, I I know with that I

1550
00:56:44,255 --> 00:56:46,410
feel or then I looked that way. So

1551
00:56:46,570 --> 00:56:47,927
I think it's gonna go so much better.

1552
00:56:48,086 --> 00:56:50,091
I'm excited to... Follow and see how you

1553
00:56:50,091 --> 00:56:53,449
do. Thanks. Yeah. I'm excited to get it

1554
00:56:53,505 --> 00:56:54,299
get it going

1555
00:56:54,855 --> 00:56:56,602
Doing right around the corner. So...

1556
00:56:57,173 --> 00:56:59,477
Do you have a best most recent book

1557
00:56:59,477 --> 00:57:01,384
you've read? I can't imagine you have much

1558
00:57:01,384 --> 00:57:01,940
time to read?

1559
00:57:04,577 --> 00:57:05,077
I

1560
00:57:05,612 --> 00:57:07,761
haven't been reading too much. I did get

1561
00:57:07,761 --> 00:57:08,716
that book by,

1562
00:57:10,388 --> 00:57:12,952
I'm forgetting the name, but it's Tommy Ribs

1563
00:57:12,952 --> 00:57:14,808
wife. Do you know what book I'm talking

1564
00:57:14,866 --> 00:57:16,461
about? Yeah. Is it stuff?

1565
00:57:17,578 --> 00:57:18,078
I...

1566
00:57:19,094 --> 00:57:21,088
You know a book I'm talking about. So

1567
00:57:21,247 --> 00:57:23,654
I started that book. And I did think

1568
00:57:23,654 --> 00:57:25,408
it was very good, and I need to

1569
00:57:25,408 --> 00:57:28,197
finish it. I just got lazy. And maybe

1570
00:57:28,197 --> 00:57:29,553
during day for a week. I'll pick it

1571
00:57:29,553 --> 00:57:32,674
up. Book I'll, continue. But, no. I was

1572
00:57:32,674 --> 00:57:35,063
a huge Tommy Rogue fan, and I, like,

1573
00:57:35,142 --> 00:57:37,531
following her too. So when I saw that

1574
00:57:37,531 --> 00:57:38,566
come out and had to get it.

1575
00:57:39,219 --> 00:57:40,918
Yeah. Her book is called

1576
00:57:41,456 --> 00:57:43,054
everything all at once.

1577
00:57:43,773 --> 00:57:46,421
Yes. There you go That's it. Yeah. It

1578
00:57:46,421 --> 00:57:49,755
movie called that too not related. But Yeah

1579
00:57:49,755 --> 00:57:49,914
related

1580
00:57:50,787 --> 00:57:52,771
It wasn't related to her book, but I

1581
00:57:52,931 --> 00:57:54,696
I... That's... I don't know. I couldn't think

1582
00:57:54,696 --> 00:57:56,371
of it. Is something I wanted to face

1583
00:57:56,371 --> 00:57:58,046
stars but, like, no. It's at the underneath

1584
00:57:58,046 --> 00:57:59,960
of it. So, yeah. You're right. You're right.

1585
00:58:00,278 --> 00:58:02,671
Yeah. She's a beautiful writer. She's really, really

1586
00:58:02,671 --> 00:58:02,990
good at that.

1587
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,790
Think what's your last message to leave with

1588
00:58:05,790 --> 00:58:06,347
our audience?

1589
00:58:06,984 --> 00:58:08,973
I guess I would just say, like, you

1590
00:58:08,973 --> 00:58:09,132
know,

1591
00:58:10,007 --> 00:58:12,728
and mean, I'm assuming it's primarily runners. There

1592
00:58:12,728 --> 00:58:13,205
listening.

1593
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:17,108
Yeah. If you have goals, just keep chasing

1594
00:58:17,108 --> 00:58:17,825
after your goals.

1595
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:20,771
I mean, you gotta start somewhere. And, I

1596
00:58:20,771 --> 00:58:22,703
mean, that's the only way I've gotten better

1597
00:58:22,703 --> 00:58:25,499
is, like, believing in yourself and, you know,

1598
00:58:25,659 --> 00:58:27,437
setting the bar higher and

1599
00:58:27,975 --> 00:58:28,215
just...

1600
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:31,610
Keep keep at it. Keep it up, and

1601
00:58:31,989 --> 00:58:33,510
I don't know. Stay strong.

1602
00:58:35,843 --> 00:58:37,670
Thanks so much for being here. Everybody. Thanks

1603
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:39,259
Sierra for coming on the podcast.

1604
00:58:39,815 --> 00:58:43,247
You all can find Sierra on Instagram. She

1605
00:58:43,247 --> 00:58:46,587
is s D over there. I'm Lindsay Hi

1606
00:58:46,587 --> 00:58:47,302
626.

1607
00:58:47,541 --> 00:58:49,768
I'd love to connect with you. As well,

1608
00:58:50,006 --> 00:58:52,074
you can learn more about this podcast and

1609
00:58:52,074 --> 00:58:55,840
all the shows our network, including the pretty

1610
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,036
brand new podcast, the trail network podcast hosted

1611
00:58:59,036 --> 00:59:02,558
by 4 amazing than ultra runners themselves. They've

1612
00:59:02,558 --> 00:59:05,105
got some great Western states content that they've

1613
00:59:05,105 --> 00:59:06,537
been putting out. So go check them out

1614
00:59:06,617 --> 00:59:08,723
They're called the trail Network podcast.

1615
00:59:09,097 --> 00:59:10,447
Thanks for being here, and we'll see you

1616
00:59:10,447 --> 00:59:11,798
next week, on I'll have another.