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This is a Sandy Boy productions podcast.

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Hey everybody. Welcome to all have another podcast

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with Lindsay He. I'm your host, Lindsay. Thanks

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so much for joining me today. Today, I'm

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so excited to have death, Garcia joining us

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for the podcast.

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Stephanie is a retired S Chaser.

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She competed in the 20 11 in 20

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15 world championships for team Usa. In 20

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16,

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she placed fifth at the Us Olympic in

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trials.

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She was part of fu elite after college,

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and then went on to run with Kim

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Conley and Drew Watt and trained with Kim

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for a few years before retiring.

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Steph is now the mother 2 1,

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She dabble in some spartan races and trail

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races a bit. She's a run coach and

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works in communications for C.

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Sports associates.

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She's coached by David and Meghan Roach, and

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she's got some goals on the trail she's

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not quite sure what running is gonna look

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like over the next couple years, but she

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is excited about

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this phase of life. And also, we recorded

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Hey friends, so excited to welcome Steph Garcia

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to the podcast. Welcome to the show steph.

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So good to be with you Lindsay. I'm

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such a big fan of you of the

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podcast of the empire and, of course, of

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running in check fields and all of the

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fun stuff we're gonna talk about. So Pleased

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to be here. Oh my gosh. You're so

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sweet.

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Tell me, like, how are you enjoying watching

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the trials right now?

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It is...

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It's emotional. It is so emotional, and I

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am actually gonna be down there for the

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final weekend.

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I'm based in the Pacific Northwest, a friend

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and I, and our toddler boys are gonna

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go down,

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and be in hayward for the final weekend,

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and I am already, like, getting tears in

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my eyes thinking about those moments and watching

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those athletes

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achieve their dream or not achieve their dream,

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you know? Because that is part of the

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story of the Olympic trials too, so

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it's so exciting to watch. I love seeing

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the next generation of Olympia come.

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It is so exciting and you're so right.

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Like, to see the emotions on both sides

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there. I have to ask you then,

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based on what you just said and based

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on your Olympic trials experience like your fall

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in 20 16 and being fifth of the

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trials

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What did your heart do

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when a thing... Did you know what I

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was gonna ask? Oh yeah. I've got, which

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somebody always falls to the 800?

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Always. Always. I had a training partner back

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in 20 12 fall in the in the

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800 in the in the rounds. And, you

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know, she,

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I don't... I don't think she had the

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standard at the time. But, like, just to

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anyone who makes it to the trials and

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you're on the starting line and, like, you

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get that chance.

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I'm thinking back to,

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Leah O'connor and that's not our Married. She's

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not. She's married now, but, like, thinking of

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her. Fallon. Yeah. Having a fall on the

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barrier, like, all of those...

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Ugh, was heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. There's heartbreak in

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every single Olympic trial. In every race. Think

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of people who had, like, their shoes come

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on tied in the 5 k or the

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10 k or anything like that, like, pills

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You had a really beautiful post about that,

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though. Like, not about the fault, but just

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about your experience and,

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like...

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Not being an Olympia or being in Olympia

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that doesn't define the athlete that you are.

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Can you talk about that a little bit?

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I think that there's

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there's only

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a few people who get to be in

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Olympia. That's this the way it goes, but

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that doesn't mean that there... That everyone else

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doesn't have a valid or exciting or fulfilling

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career. You know, I think about the...

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The the folks of my generation, like the

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steph bruce's of the world, the Sarah Halls

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of the world

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Done

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amazing things.

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Certainly not trying to compare myself to their

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paul's accomplishments, but just to say that

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you can accomplish so much. You can set

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records. You can be a champion.

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And still not being Olympia and that that

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doesn't make your experience any less valid or

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to be celebrated,

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like,

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I think that when we meet

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folks out in the world who aren't part

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of the Track field

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ecosystem, and they say, oh, wow, you are

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a pro,

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So you went to the Olympics,

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and it's it's hard to kind of explain.

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No. But I ran this time, and I

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did this thing and

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you know, those are super exciting, and

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again, fulfilling. I'm gonna use that word To

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those are fulfilling, aspects of any career. And

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so we don't go up to, you know,

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an account and say, hey, were you 1

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of the top

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percent.

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Mountains and oh, you weren't, so why are

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you working? You know, Like...

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basketball players.

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are and how few of them actually

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play on the Olympic team, but, like, we're

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still like, oh, he's a pro basketball player.

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Like, that's a big deal.

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Absolutely. Or how many people are Nfl players

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and don't win a Super Bowl. It'll get

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a back, and that doesn't mean that they

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didn't have a really cool and awesome. Career

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full of wins,

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And failures. And that's just part of it.

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you didn't ask this question yet, but if

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there was something that I would want everyone

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to know and, like, embrace about their life

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experience is that failure is part of it.

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Is not linear,

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it and to expect it to be so

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is unrealistic. And we see some of these

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amazing athletes

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go from 0 to hundred and overnight, overnight

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successes.

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gone in

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behind the scenes or we don't see maybe

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they did have a connection or an opportunity.

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have to actually run the race and run

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the top. But, like, for jobs or whatever.

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there's usually a lot of work that goes

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in that you don't see.

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though I hadn't asked it yet, I was,

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like, thinking about, like, where do I throw

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What would your message be

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to... Well, I was actually thinking like, you

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know, who who was, like sage? You know,

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in the 800, like,

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I was thinking, like, what would you say

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to her? Well, she still gotta go run

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the fifteenth. So hopefully, she has a great

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race, but, like,

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you know, I saw her posters interview, and

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she was pissed. She was just pissed.

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How do you pick yourself back? Up from

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that heartbreak. Like, give yourself time to grieve

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it, but then be like, it's okay. My

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career still valid, and I still have so

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much more I wanna go do.

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I think for me, specifically about 20 16

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and missing that team. And and I wanna,

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like, for people who didn't.

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Go ahead. Wrong back in those days, didn't

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pay. Mentioned, like, I was

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you know, near the front for a lot

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of that race. I was in

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position and going into the final lap. I

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was in second place and so then to

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have to 2 girls past me fall, and

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then have another girl past me. I mean,

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at the that point, it was over. But

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you know, it... It's

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what I would say to myself

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and reflecting back, Like, I didn't

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take time to

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grieve. I just kept moving forward. Like, moving

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forward using

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failure to propel you to the next thing.

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I knew I was really fit. I knew

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there was some other goals that I had

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this again. These are all... These times are

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gonna sound silly in the context of today

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and super shoes, but back then, only

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3 women had broken 09:20.

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still a... It was a really big barrier.

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for me immediately after falling, you know, going

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through the mix zone crying with my coach.

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I was like, okay. Now I need to

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go get in an eps salt bat. And

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I need to fuel. I need to hydrate

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and I need to get ready because I'm

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gonna go to Europe, and I'm gonna race

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in some diamond leagues, and I'm gonna do

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these things because I'm gonna break 09:20. That's

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gonna be my big goal. And

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and I did that that summer. And

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I remember having some friends and peers around

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me saying, like, why aren't you crying? Why

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aren't you hungry? Like, get drink a ball

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of wine, just get...

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Lose it, and I'm, like, no. Because I

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still have things to that I'm gonna go

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do. And so I'm not saying that's the

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healthiest way to, you know, maybe I should

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have had a big glass of wine and

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I think that using failure... It's only a

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failure if you don't learn from it.

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Yeah.

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It's so hard.

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It's so and also, I feel like

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there's a lot of embarrassment with failure

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because people,

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like, you put your dreams out there.

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And then people expect x y and z,

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and then it doesn't happen,

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and you're like,

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oh,

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did you feel that? At all.

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I'm gonna have a confession. During my pro

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career, especially when I was running really well,

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I would never promote that I was running

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a race like, okay. You know, just whatever

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any race going to a diamond league. I

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wouldn't I wouldn't start talking about it until

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maybe like, the day of, like, oh, I'm

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hopping in to,

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My link, whatever it is,

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because I didn't want to put it out

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there and have anyone, even if it was

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like my mom, You know, 1 person pay

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attention,

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And then, oh, what if I had a

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bad race, that would be really embarrassed because

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I was like, oh, look at me. I'm

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going to this race.

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And then I, you know, had a D

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or so... You know, something like that, I

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was embarrassed. And so that's very true.

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That's definitely a feeling that we all get

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of, like, that embarrassment in that shame.

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Yeah. It's interesting because I feel like in

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today's world everything's so out there. And, like,

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everyday athletes, You know, there's, like, tracking for

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races and everything like that. And

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it's like both. So you can use that,

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everybody knows I'm running this marathon

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and can track me as, like,

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motivation.

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You know, like, at mile 18 when you're

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like, all this sucks. But then you're like,

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but people are gonna see my split at

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the 20 mile mark, you know?

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Or it can internalize as, like, really big

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pressure and just like, come crashing down on

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you. And I... It probably just depends on

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what kind of person you are. Like, how

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you suspects things. Yeah. As, like a perfection

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kind of person, I was the second thing.

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Like, would be too much pressure on me.

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I I know that... Like, the mental side

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of it started really getting to me towards

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the end. When I was in the final

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years of my s, fast forward to 20

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17, Us, championships, there's a world team to

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make. I fall again in the water. So,

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you know,

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it really messed with my head. And so

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much of it was just the pressure I

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was putting on myself. I'm sure no 1

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else really

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was paying that close of attention to the

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women's people at that point, but and But,

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yeah. It's it's real. So

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I'm just finding ways to kind of

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work within the system to that's gonna work

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for you. Like, that's... My advice there. And

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going back to your earlier question about, like,

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what would I say to someone like sage,

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Like, it's okay to feel what you're feeling

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is what I would say. Feel angry. Feel

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awful, like,

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get your team around you, get in your

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protected bubble

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and get yourself

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you know, fill your cup back up, get

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away from...

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And it's it's different percentage. She's gonna go

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back and run again. Yeah. But, for some

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folks who are kind of devastated

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by their experience

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at the trial, specifically,

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it's okay to to take a step away.

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For a week for a month, take time

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off, do what you need to do if

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that's how you wanna process it,

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you're not a failure. And there's more. And

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even if maybe this was, like, your last

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go with the trials if you're maybe an

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older athlete or you're just gonna do something

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different with your life,

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this will always be part of your story,

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Make it

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make it

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the the cliff hanger ending to the next

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chapter of of your life.

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Yeah.

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Well, I know I'm thinking about Sage 2

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when you you... You know, when you answer

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that question I'm like, She is still really

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young. So, like, this won't be her last

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olympic trials.

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But, also, I was also thinking, go do

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that Brenda Martinez thing, because do you remember

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when Brenda fell in the 800 and then

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made the team in the 15. Was that

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was that 20 16? It was. Yeah. Mh.

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Yeah.

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It's like that is a possibility. Like that

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can happen for you. I know that 1500

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field is just

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crazy stack, but it's always crazy stack. Always.

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I was just gonna say that when brenda

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made it. Was crazy stack too. So... Yeah.

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And and someone,

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everyone who makes to the trials has earned

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their way there. So

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everyone has a shot. It and that's the

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beauty and heartbreak of the way that the

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Us does it. You mentioned super shoes. And

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I'm like, oh, you are the perfect person

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who talked to about this because you really

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are.

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On that like, line there. Like, you know,

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I've talked to athletes who are, like like

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Des and Sarah who are, like, still racing

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and raced through it before. But like you've...

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And then you've got people that are really

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old school that weren't even any anywhere close

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to when super shoes came out But you're,

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like, right there. You were, like, right there

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before.

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And so I'm just curious, like,

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your thoughts on all that because we always

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think that, like, with Asterisk,

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aside from, you know, like Dean Cast,

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I always say, like Dean cast marathon,

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American record before it was broken, like, there

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were always in my mind be that like,

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this was pre super shoes because it held

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for over 20 years, you know. But, like,

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anyway, I'm just curious your thoughts on this

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as someone who didn't get to enter that

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era.

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It's tough.

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I see the times now, especially for, again,

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women's s and knowing that they have... Totally

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different spikes than I had,

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There's a little bit of, like,

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I don't wanna... I don't like to use

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the word, like, Envy or jealousy, but I'm

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like, oh man, I wish I could try

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that. Like, I'm so impressed to see, you

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know, girls at the Nc level, just blowing

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by the times that back my day, like,

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if you break 10, you were, like, a

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superstar. And now it's, like, did you break

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09:30?

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Yeah. Or you're not making a final at

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nc double or whatever?

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Yeah. That's

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it's just kind of that, like, every era

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has their own thing in their new,

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whatever training device or method.

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Or track surface or whatever. And so this

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is what's happening.

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I did try vapor flies for my first

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marathon, my first road marathon and,

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loved them. So... Really? Yeah. I I think

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Super shoes,

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we have to keep evolving with the time.

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And so

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I don't want there to be, like, an

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Asterisk next to, like, oh,

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these times like, everything again, keeping with the

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theme of, like, you're valid and worthy, like,

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everything is

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is part of it, and that's just the

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way the sport goes. Right?

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Yeah. For sure.

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Wait talk to us about your road marathon.

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0II

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hopped into Ci am. Popped in. I did...

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You will understand this. I had a baby.

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And I I have been curious about the

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marathon. U.

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So I set Ci as my goal. My

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kiddo was born

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August 20 20 okay. So 20... So it

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was a while... But it's like a year

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Wait. How old was your child? He was

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what?

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15 months Okay. 14 months. Okay. I'm but

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I'm gonna be honest. It was

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it was a challenging experience. Yeah. Part I'm

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running is a very challenging thing.

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And

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for a couple reasons, there's the physical side,

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of course, there's the

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support side. Like, do you have a babysitter

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for your kid? Are you getting out to

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train?

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Are you... Breastfeeding? Are you is he in

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daycare care? You know, what what are... What

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does your life look like? Yeah. How time

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commitment, you know for a marathon. You need

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time to go out and get those miles

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in, But then also what surprise me was,

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like, the emotional mental side. Like,

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I struggled to be away from my kiddo

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in those

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months. Even though I was fine to run,

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my body was was coming back,

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feeling like myself again.

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I missed him. I felt anxious away from

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him, things things like that. And so III

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definitely struggled with getting back into some consistent

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training

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when he was still kind of in that

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baby

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phase. So didn't have that...

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I

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learned a lot through that marathon

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experience. I

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did not... I, like, changed my goals for

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it.

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As as I was going along and you

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mentioned Mile

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18 when you're kinda of

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for me, I was like, mile 17. I

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had. I stopped for, like, half a second.

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And in my head, I was like, well,

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like, I don't have a phone with me.

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How is my husband gonna of find me.

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How am I gonna get back to the

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finish line? I gotta keep going And Yes.

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Yeah. It was fun to have a first

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marathon experience. I've learned so much, especially about

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the training that I really do need to

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successful there to, like, actually give it a

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good attempt. And so

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I'm looking forward to 1 day doing another

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1. You do wanna do another 1. I

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do. Because we're... Yeah. Distance Runners, you know,

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Lindsay, We wanna... We have a little bit

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of craziness,

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a in us where

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you do something challenging and then you wanna

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go and conquer it. So... Yeah. For sure.

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What were your goals And what... Do you

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care if ask what you mean? I would

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say that

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before when I was still pregnant, I thought,

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okay. I'm gonna...

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Run run a marathon. I'm gonna qualify for

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the Marathon trials. And Okay. Just wanna go

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to the marathon trials.

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And

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just between all those things I was talking

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about all the challenges.

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I just knew I wasn't in a fitness

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place for that.

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So I was

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shifted gears and was like, okay. Can I

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run in the 2 fifties? Can I break

535
00:19:30,309 --> 00:19:32,783
02:50? Can I start, like, can I get

536
00:19:32,783 --> 00:19:34,161
myself to a place where

537
00:19:34,952 --> 00:19:36,806
I can maybe get into, like, a semi

538
00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:39,971
elite field and another marathon? Yeah. And work

539
00:19:39,971 --> 00:19:40,710
my way

540
00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:43,577
to getting closer to

541
00:19:44,049 --> 00:19:45,650
would love the... That is a goal is

542
00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:48,210
to try and qualify for this. Okay. Marathon

543
00:19:48,210 --> 00:19:51,250
trials. No. I'm to try again. Yeah.

544
00:19:52,704 --> 00:19:54,865
So we'll see. Yeah. That's a that's a

545
00:19:54,865 --> 00:19:55,684
bucket list

546
00:19:55,984 --> 00:19:56,625
item for me.

547
00:19:57,345 --> 00:20:00,224
What is that like though to line up

548
00:20:00,224 --> 00:20:02,074
when you've been like? You know what I

549
00:20:02,074 --> 00:20:04,164
mean? You you've ran in the world championships

550
00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:06,924
in 20 15. You've obviously ran in the

551
00:20:07,003 --> 00:20:08,276
Olympic trials and you've run with the best

552
00:20:08,276 --> 00:20:10,044
of the best, like, Were you like, hey,

553
00:20:10,283 --> 00:20:11,721
I'm just here. Like, did you, like, were

554
00:20:11,721 --> 00:20:13,559
you just like, low key, like, put yourself

555
00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:13,878
in there?

556
00:20:14,757 --> 00:20:16,595
I was low key, and I was...

557
00:20:17,879 --> 00:20:19,226
We talked a little bit about, like,

558
00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:22,791
the pressure you put on yourself. This is

559
00:20:22,791 --> 00:20:24,553
definitely 1 that I did not talk about

560
00:20:24,553 --> 00:20:25,611
very much that I was

561
00:20:26,865 --> 00:20:27,365
and

562
00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:28,939
I was...

563
00:20:29,656 --> 00:20:31,331
I had moments where I felt kind of

564
00:20:31,331 --> 00:20:33,579
embarrassed. Like, I did get an bib, Yeah.

565
00:20:33,738 --> 00:20:35,334
I am great, and it was a great

566
00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:37,646
experience, but I also had never been in

567
00:20:37,646 --> 00:20:39,960
a made road race before. I didn't... I

568
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,714
haven't done many road races. I've been so

569
00:20:41,714 --> 00:20:43,643
much on the track that... Yeah. I have

570
00:20:43,643 --> 00:20:45,793
no idea how many people would be around

571
00:20:45,793 --> 00:20:48,500
me and, like, just there were some in

572
00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:50,571
Crm such a big 1 for that final

573
00:20:50,571 --> 00:20:51,071
qualifier.

574
00:20:51,527 --> 00:20:53,615
Yes. That there were so many people,

575
00:20:54,492 --> 00:20:54,992
and,

576
00:20:55,608 --> 00:20:57,363
yeah. I... There was moments where I felt

577
00:20:57,363 --> 00:20:58,081
kind of embarrassed.

578
00:20:59,437 --> 00:21:00,873
I will tell you what helped me there.

579
00:21:01,511 --> 00:21:05,125
I channel my inner People Sq calling qui.

580
00:21:05,605 --> 00:21:07,365
Yeah. Bella S Chaser,

581
00:21:08,085 --> 00:21:09,819
who's gone through a lot over the last

582
00:21:09,859 --> 00:21:10,737
a few years

583
00:21:11,296 --> 00:21:13,372
and done some different things with training and

584
00:21:13,372 --> 00:21:15,926
racing. And I thought, what would Colleen do

585
00:21:16,086 --> 00:21:17,443
If she was in a race where she

586
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,821
knew she wasn't quite ready

587
00:21:19,214 --> 00:21:21,370
but she's there. And I'm like, she would

588
00:21:21,370 --> 00:21:24,004
have so much fun. She'd be bathing. She'd

589
00:21:24,004 --> 00:21:26,878
be like, just living up and still trained

590
00:21:26,878 --> 00:21:30,479
still trying. Right? Not like, jogging. But but

591
00:21:30,479 --> 00:21:31,036
but, like,

592
00:21:31,752 --> 00:21:33,660
picking up space. It's okay to take up

593
00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,091
space. Even if you aren't...

594
00:21:35,807 --> 00:21:38,613
If you're a different version of yourself. And

595
00:21:38,844 --> 00:21:40,038
to bring it back to motherhood.

596
00:21:40,515 --> 00:21:42,527
I don't wanna think, like, oh, I'm

597
00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:45,846
a lesser version of myself because I'm a

598
00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:47,995
mom. Now. I'm a running mom. I don't

599
00:21:47,995 --> 00:21:50,165
to train the same way or race the

600
00:21:50,165 --> 00:21:52,559
same way. It's okay. I'm a new version

601
00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:55,592
of myself, not a lesser version. And this

602
00:21:55,592 --> 00:21:56,550
version is valid too.

603
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663
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I love that. I love that you brought

664
00:24:17,754 --> 00:24:19,827
up calling too because you're so right.

665
00:24:20,386 --> 00:24:22,242
Like, jumping into triathlon,

666
00:24:22,699 --> 00:24:25,251
just like, doing all these different things, and

667
00:24:25,251 --> 00:24:28,127
then just, like, using her platform in other

668
00:24:28,127 --> 00:24:30,429
ways that aren't necessarily, like, on the track,

669
00:24:30,747 --> 00:24:31,382
steep chasing.

670
00:24:32,175 --> 00:24:34,319
I love that so much. I kinda feel

671
00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:36,324
when you brought up the mom thing.

672
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:39,032
I kinda feel similar in a different way.

673
00:24:40,226 --> 00:24:41,740
And I don't know if it's age, but,

674
00:24:41,819 --> 00:24:41,979
like,

675
00:24:42,934 --> 00:24:43,594
I really

676
00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:46,872
in my non professional very

677
00:24:47,566 --> 00:24:49,953
recreational running ways. Like, I really got after

678
00:24:49,953 --> 00:24:51,863
it so hard after I became a new

679
00:24:51,863 --> 00:24:52,999
mom. Like, I

680
00:24:53,708 --> 00:24:55,877
ran crazy miles and,

681
00:24:56,569 --> 00:24:59,113
like, peered all my marathons and stuff, like,

682
00:24:59,351 --> 00:25:00,646
in those really early

683
00:25:01,179 --> 00:25:01,974
motherhood days,

684
00:25:03,103 --> 00:25:05,336
And now I feel like, now is the

685
00:25:05,336 --> 00:25:06,952
time where you should have more

686
00:25:07,808 --> 00:25:09,562
energy and, like more drive because your kids

687
00:25:09,562 --> 00:25:11,556
are bigger, but, like, I actually I don't

688
00:25:11,556 --> 00:25:13,802
feel like that? And I thought I would.

689
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,430
And so I'm trying... I've... For years have

690
00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:18,581
been trying to figure out what does that

691
00:25:18,581 --> 00:25:20,174
mean for me? And, like, what does it

692
00:25:20,174 --> 00:25:21,862
look like to still work really hard, but,

693
00:25:21,942 --> 00:25:22,101
like,

694
00:25:22,817 --> 00:25:24,171
maybe the goals are different.

695
00:25:24,569 --> 00:25:27,595
You know, it's it's interesting. Like, life changes

696
00:25:27,595 --> 00:25:29,187
and you just... You don't know what's gonna

697
00:25:29,187 --> 00:25:31,038
happen or how you're in a feel. Absolutely.

698
00:25:31,278 --> 00:25:33,596
That's like the tagline for parenthood is, like,

699
00:25:33,756 --> 00:25:35,673
you no 1 yet what's gonna go until

700
00:25:35,673 --> 00:25:37,372
you're already in it, and

701
00:25:37,751 --> 00:25:38,811
I think that

702
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:42,153
in so much of my postpartum, new mom

703
00:25:42,153 --> 00:25:43,349
experience has been just, like,

704
00:25:44,623 --> 00:25:48,861
to to still feel worthy in wherever I

705
00:25:48,861 --> 00:25:51,252
am right now. I'm feeling, like, what you're

706
00:25:51,252 --> 00:25:53,403
feeling right now. I don't feel that same

707
00:25:53,403 --> 00:25:54,414
drive and

708
00:25:55,093 --> 00:25:57,326
urgency to go out and gobble up goals,

709
00:25:58,442 --> 00:26:00,357
the same way. Doesn't mean I don't have

710
00:26:00,357 --> 00:26:02,909
goals, But my energy is poured so much

711
00:26:02,909 --> 00:26:05,789
into my kiddo into my family into my

712
00:26:05,789 --> 00:26:08,490
my work now. I'm I work now. Not

713
00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:10,555
just run. So... Yeah. Like, real a real

714
00:26:10,555 --> 00:26:13,096
job outside of professional running? Yeah. Real real

715
00:26:13,096 --> 00:26:15,652
big girl job. And not, you know, I

716
00:26:15,652 --> 00:26:16,469
don't have any

717
00:26:17,001 --> 00:26:18,350
sponsorship support. I've have no none of that.

718
00:26:18,588 --> 00:26:20,175
I do have a coach who's awesome and

719
00:26:20,175 --> 00:26:21,207
cheers me on, but like,

720
00:26:22,335 --> 00:26:24,663
I'm in a totally different. I'm a normal

721
00:26:25,754 --> 00:26:28,003
non elite runner now. So

722
00:26:29,332 --> 00:26:30,786
I don't feel that same

723
00:26:31,572 --> 00:26:31,890
push,

724
00:26:32,683 --> 00:26:35,064
but I have faith that it's gonna come

725
00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:37,127
back. And that's okay. That there's, like, it's

726
00:26:37,127 --> 00:26:39,056
okay to have ebb and flows in your

727
00:26:39,270 --> 00:26:39,508
motivation,

728
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:41,593
and in the way you approach it. Like,

729
00:26:41,832 --> 00:26:43,266
I'm trying to still train, of course, and

730
00:26:43,346 --> 00:26:45,678
I still have races I'm jumping into and

731
00:26:45,816 --> 00:26:48,286
doing different things. I'm trying some trails. I

732
00:26:48,286 --> 00:26:49,662
would like to try some ultra

733
00:26:50,928 --> 00:26:53,391
but that dream of, like, getting back getting

734
00:26:53,391 --> 00:26:55,696
a marathon... Another couple goes with the marathon.

735
00:26:55,935 --> 00:26:57,286
Doing some half marathons. Like,

736
00:26:57,937 --> 00:27:00,244
running fast again is something I do wanna

737
00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:00,403
do,

738
00:27:02,073 --> 00:27:04,005
and I'm just gonna have faith that that

739
00:27:05,033 --> 00:27:07,506
urgency and that, like, real fire is gonna

740
00:27:07,506 --> 00:27:07,825
come back.

741
00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:10,298
I'll say 1 more thing about my story

742
00:27:10,298 --> 00:27:11,575
and then go back to you Because Like,

743
00:27:12,068 --> 00:27:13,743
I always feel like, don't talk too much

744
00:27:13,743 --> 00:27:14,621
about cell in Yan.

745
00:27:15,498 --> 00:27:17,093
But when we're talking about motherhood, I'm just

746
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:17,333
like,

747
00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:19,805
I think that when my kids were really,

748
00:27:19,885 --> 00:27:21,480
like your kids ate your son's age.

749
00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:23,962
Stuff stuff has a 2 year old.

750
00:27:26,429 --> 00:27:29,055
I almost think that I used the running

751
00:27:29,055 --> 00:27:30,487
hard and all that to, like,

752
00:27:31,376 --> 00:27:33,597
cope with how hard it was when they

753
00:27:33,597 --> 00:27:34,232
were so little,

754
00:27:35,263 --> 00:27:37,087
and maybe I don't need that as much

755
00:27:37,087 --> 00:27:38,674
now in those ways, like,

756
00:27:39,403 --> 00:27:41,726
because parenting is, like so much less physically

757
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:43,603
demanding than it used to be. And I'm

758
00:27:43,603 --> 00:27:45,188
like, well, that was my... That was 1

759
00:27:45,188 --> 00:27:46,322
of my coping mechanisms

760
00:27:46,868 --> 00:27:47,187
you know.

761
00:27:48,539 --> 00:27:50,846
But anyway, I was gonna ask you, yeah,

762
00:27:51,005 --> 00:27:52,300
when you bring up the trails

763
00:27:52,993 --> 00:27:53,471
and stuff,

764
00:27:54,203 --> 00:27:56,276
it's like, wow. Someone like you who comes

765
00:27:56,276 --> 00:27:57,551
from such a speed background.

766
00:27:58,428 --> 00:28:01,617
Like, if you have that endurance piece to,

767
00:28:02,349 --> 00:28:04,427
Like, you could just, like, tear it up

768
00:28:04,427 --> 00:28:05,306
on the trails?

769
00:28:05,786 --> 00:28:07,464
Because you've got the speed too, But I'm

770
00:28:07,464 --> 00:28:08,423
like what do you do? Do you go

771
00:28:08,423 --> 00:28:09,701
the way of Grace and Murphy and do,

772
00:28:09,781 --> 00:28:12,429
like, the shorter distance trail stuff? Okay. Here's

773
00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:14,655
1 secret about trails that people forget. There's,

774
00:28:14,734 --> 00:28:16,483
like, hills and yeah.

775
00:28:17,199 --> 00:28:19,505
Terrain. And so I am not a graceful

776
00:28:19,505 --> 00:28:20,459
runner, and so...

777
00:28:21,348 --> 00:28:24,230
So I need work on those real technical

778
00:28:24,365 --> 00:28:25,738
rocky kind of

779
00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:28,731
rains. That's not the the trails that have

780
00:28:28,731 --> 00:28:30,081
ever been around. Like,

781
00:28:30,969 --> 00:28:31,469
and

782
00:28:32,476 --> 00:28:35,252
so much of my track time, you avoid

783
00:28:35,252 --> 00:28:37,156
trails. Because if you twisted an ankle or

784
00:28:37,156 --> 00:28:40,030
you've tumble right, totally. You could derail a

785
00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:41,698
race or even, like part of a season.

786
00:28:41,857 --> 00:28:43,843
So it was never. We didn't risk that.

787
00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:46,881
Now it's like, throw yourself down a hill

788
00:28:46,881 --> 00:28:47,838
and see what happens.

789
00:28:48,635 --> 00:28:52,245
I'm very cautious on downhill hills. Actually, before

790
00:28:52,622 --> 00:28:55,825
getting pregnant. I did the, like, Us, mountain

791
00:28:55,825 --> 00:28:58,549
running championships at Mount hood. And,

792
00:28:59,082 --> 00:29:00,512
I hadn't really done a lot of hill

793
00:29:00,512 --> 00:29:01,409
work, but

794
00:29:02,101 --> 00:29:03,784
I. Let's just get let's do this. Like,

795
00:29:03,943 --> 00:29:05,135
I fit. I'm fast.

796
00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:07,280
I did pretty well on the way up.

797
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:08,949
I was like, in the top 10 on

798
00:29:08,949 --> 00:29:11,589
the way up the mountain. U. Thought down.

799
00:29:11,829 --> 00:29:13,187
I got past by, like, 20 people.

800
00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:16,404
No graduated. I think I finished, like, t

801
00:29:16,624 --> 00:29:18,941
because I could not send it on the

802
00:29:18,941 --> 00:29:19,021
hills.

803
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:22,570
Mountain and run can. They're are amazing.

804
00:29:23,267 --> 00:29:25,979
I just am too worried about falling to

805
00:29:25,979 --> 00:29:26,377
my death.

806
00:29:27,255 --> 00:29:29,887
And it's like, who wants to be injured.

807
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:34,000
They're amazing. Like, these... The the, like, true

808
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:35,740
mountain running athletes,

809
00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,619
men and women are just so badass. I'm

810
00:29:38,619 --> 00:29:40,315
like, in all of them. And so it's

811
00:29:40,315 --> 00:29:43,134
really cool to find and learn about different

812
00:29:43,355 --> 00:29:46,154
running communities. You know, the ultra running world

813
00:29:46,154 --> 00:29:48,029
is different than the short. Trails.

814
00:29:48,802 --> 00:29:51,268
An obstacle course racing, which I was jumping

815
00:29:51,268 --> 00:29:53,416
into my husband's done, like, I,

816
00:29:54,864 --> 00:29:57,336
it's super cool to see all these different

817
00:29:57,336 --> 00:29:59,809
angles of running outside of just Pure track

818
00:29:59,809 --> 00:30:02,042
field. Mh. I wanna talk about the obstacle

819
00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:03,398
school racing. So that's where you met your

820
00:30:03,398 --> 00:30:03,717
husband.

821
00:30:04,276 --> 00:30:04,435
Yes.

822
00:30:05,248 --> 00:30:05,408
Okay.

823
00:30:06,286 --> 00:30:07,563
When did you even get the idea to

824
00:30:07,563 --> 00:30:09,159
jump into it and tell us a little

825
00:30:09,159 --> 00:30:10,835
bit about how much you've done it? Yeah.

826
00:30:11,154 --> 00:30:12,670
I I really haven't done it a lot

827
00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:14,995
recently I kinda had, like, 1 little season

828
00:30:14,995 --> 00:30:16,588
of jumping in and learning,

829
00:30:17,623 --> 00:30:20,091
because surprise surprise as a track athlete. I

830
00:30:20,091 --> 00:30:22,810
did not have those, like, Gym gymnastics skills

831
00:30:22,810 --> 00:30:26,170
to be, like, hanging from things and swinging

832
00:30:26,306 --> 00:30:28,450
and even, like, go to your playground and

833
00:30:28,450 --> 00:30:30,693
jump on a monkey bars, like That's hard.

834
00:30:31,012 --> 00:30:33,407
I couldn't start hard. It's... That's not my

835
00:30:33,407 --> 00:30:35,323
skill. I I can lift things. I can,

836
00:30:35,403 --> 00:30:37,558
like, carry big buckets or rocks or whatever,

837
00:30:37,718 --> 00:30:40,688
but the, like, swinging offs. Were really challenging

838
00:30:40,688 --> 00:30:41,647
for me. I failed them all.

839
00:30:43,565 --> 00:30:45,723
But I was excited to be in a

840
00:30:45,723 --> 00:30:48,440
beginner again. And to learn something new. And

841
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,407
so but back actually in 20 15, 20

842
00:30:51,407 --> 00:30:53,481
16, when I was, like, at the height

843
00:30:53,481 --> 00:30:55,076
of my running, my track running,

844
00:30:55,953 --> 00:30:58,839
I had met this athlete Amelia Boone, she

845
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:02,187
was... Yeah. Yeah. A lawyer turned officer hospital

846
00:31:02,187 --> 00:31:04,340
course racer was, like, 1 of the first

847
00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:06,434
women to, like, dominate in the sport

848
00:31:06,891 --> 00:31:08,904
because it's... Still pretty new, and it's not

849
00:31:08,904 --> 00:31:10,424
in the Olympics or anything like that yet.

850
00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:13,704
And I was just so inspired by her.

851
00:31:13,865 --> 00:31:16,025
And so I said, when you're done with

852
00:31:16,025 --> 00:31:18,680
track running and it's decade, like, let's do

853
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,759
some Ocr and just like c because it

854
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:22,839
seems like fun. I'm a S chaser. I

855
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:25,330
wanna do wild things. And just, like, jump

856
00:31:25,330 --> 00:31:27,402
over things and jump in water, like, that's

857
00:31:27,402 --> 00:31:28,779
in my Dna. So

858
00:31:30,192 --> 00:31:32,025
once I did step back from the track

859
00:31:32,025 --> 00:31:34,127
and This was early 20 21

860
00:31:34,341 --> 00:31:34,500
because,

861
00:31:35,452 --> 00:31:36,484
and the reason I sit back from the

862
00:31:36,484 --> 00:31:39,341
track was really just injuries and just getting

863
00:31:39,341 --> 00:31:40,531
older and just not...

864
00:31:41,738 --> 00:31:43,408
It just wasn't... It was just time to

865
00:31:43,408 --> 00:31:43,805
be done.

866
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,177
But I immediately jumped into this Ocr and

867
00:31:48,177 --> 00:31:48,910
t. Stuff,

868
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,150
and had a really fun year. And then

869
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:53,630
I got pregnant. And so, you know, just

870
00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:54,990
the way the cycle of life is gone.

871
00:31:55,150 --> 00:31:55,789
And so I,

872
00:31:56,604 --> 00:31:58,531
have done a couple of little trail races

873
00:31:59,300 --> 00:31:59,800
recently,

874
00:32:00,252 --> 00:32:02,394
and they've gone really well with Good. With

875
00:32:02,394 --> 00:32:03,822
limited training, and so,

876
00:32:04,615 --> 00:32:07,495
have I would say my next big goal

877
00:32:07,495 --> 00:32:08,689
the next like thing I would love to

878
00:32:08,689 --> 00:32:10,439
do is to try an ultra, try a

879
00:32:10,439 --> 00:32:11,474
50 k. Okay.

880
00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:14,234
And and see if I

881
00:32:14,835 --> 00:32:16,355
not so much to, like, I'm gonna go

882
00:32:16,355 --> 00:32:17,575
and win because

883
00:32:17,954 --> 00:32:19,875
training is very limited right now just with,

884
00:32:19,954 --> 00:32:22,615
like, the time and and the toddler hood

885
00:32:22,755 --> 00:32:25,898
era, but I wanna try 50 k

886
00:32:26,271 --> 00:32:28,835
how I do learn a lot and then

887
00:32:29,049 --> 00:32:30,795
figure out okay. Is this something I wanna

888
00:32:30,795 --> 00:32:32,302
do more of and train.

889
00:32:32,873 --> 00:32:33,907
More specifically for.

890
00:32:34,861 --> 00:32:36,770
Yeah. And then how do you like, set

891
00:32:36,770 --> 00:32:39,553
goals around that stuff now? Like, what matters

892
00:32:39,553 --> 00:32:40,428
most to you now?

893
00:32:41,239 --> 00:32:44,272
In general, what matters most to me,

894
00:32:45,071 --> 00:32:46,587
it's a little bit like what you were

895
00:32:46,587 --> 00:32:48,583
mentioning as, like a mother runner of, like,

896
00:32:49,142 --> 00:32:51,944
is running, like, the filling my cup is

897
00:32:51,944 --> 00:32:54,808
this giving me, like, that release that I

898
00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:56,717
need as, like, a busy working mom.

899
00:32:58,646 --> 00:33:00,959
That's that's something. Like, that's a check... Like,

900
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:02,874
a box I wanna check every week of,

901
00:33:03,034 --> 00:33:05,043
like, how did running feel for... Me. It

902
00:33:05,043 --> 00:33:07,276
feel like a pressure stressful thing that I

903
00:33:07,276 --> 00:33:08,711
had to put on my to do list?

904
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:10,705
Or did it feel like something that, like,

905
00:33:11,103 --> 00:33:12,858
was awesome and I, like, had fun. And

906
00:33:12,938 --> 00:33:14,865
I met with other family. Mom in the

907
00:33:14,865 --> 00:33:16,936
area and Ran, like, had a good run

908
00:33:16,936 --> 00:33:18,210
with my husband, like those things.

909
00:33:19,723 --> 00:33:21,953
But then there's in the trail world in

910
00:33:21,953 --> 00:33:23,721
the ultra world. There are races that you

911
00:33:23,721 --> 00:33:26,353
wanna, like, get to. You know, did you...

912
00:33:27,549 --> 00:33:29,064
You know, I I have like a wish

913
00:33:29,064 --> 00:33:31,058
list of races all across the country all

914
00:33:31,058 --> 00:33:32,508
across the world that I'm like, I 1

915
00:33:32,508 --> 00:33:34,421
day Wanna go to Arizona and do this

916
00:33:34,421 --> 00:33:34,921
crazy

917
00:33:35,298 --> 00:33:38,009
desert race. Or, I wanna go to, you

918
00:33:38,009 --> 00:33:40,002
know, out here in the Pacific Northwest and

919
00:33:40,002 --> 00:33:41,234
do this... Crazy

920
00:33:41,688 --> 00:33:43,358
trail marathon. You know, whatever it is,

921
00:33:44,233 --> 00:33:46,221
it's like, wanting to hit those. Just like

922
00:33:46,221 --> 00:33:48,630
folks who do road marathons, 1

923
00:33:49,179 --> 00:33:50,935
wanna do, like, they have their list of

924
00:33:51,174 --> 00:33:53,648
Chicago, Berlin, New York. It's kind of how

925
00:33:53,648 --> 00:33:54,366
it is on the trails.

926
00:33:55,085 --> 00:33:57,731
I love the process of that. Like, the

927
00:33:57,731 --> 00:34:00,060
process of being, like, well, first and foremost

928
00:34:01,071 --> 00:34:02,048
or is this,

929
00:34:02,502 --> 00:34:03,320
like satisfying?

930
00:34:04,013 --> 00:34:06,735
Is this not overwhelming? Is am I enjoying

931
00:34:06,735 --> 00:34:06,974
this?

932
00:34:07,772 --> 00:34:09,127
Then it's those other buckets.

933
00:34:09,685 --> 00:34:11,700
I remember 1 of my first

934
00:34:12,396 --> 00:34:14,070
obstacle course races, It was a Spartan race.

935
00:34:14,881 --> 00:34:15,994
It was in Pennsylvania.

936
00:34:16,472 --> 00:34:16,972
And,

937
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,177
like, you know, they have men and women

938
00:34:19,177 --> 00:34:20,847
running together. You're just kind of all out

939
00:34:20,847 --> 00:34:21,006
there.

940
00:34:21,657 --> 00:34:22,608
And I,

941
00:34:23,322 --> 00:34:24,908
then I won for my age group for

942
00:34:24,908 --> 00:34:25,463
women, but,

943
00:34:27,445 --> 00:34:28,873
1 really steep climb,

944
00:34:29,602 --> 00:34:31,032
There was like, a group of dudes around

945
00:34:31,032 --> 00:34:32,779
me and I just said, why are we

946
00:34:32,779 --> 00:34:35,003
doing this? And they were like, because we

947
00:34:35,003 --> 00:34:36,988
paid a lot to be here. And like,

948
00:34:37,226 --> 00:34:38,577
I was like, oh, that's a good point.

949
00:34:39,149 --> 00:34:41,304
And so I think about that a little

950
00:34:41,304 --> 00:34:43,139
bit in this... Like, no one's paying me

951
00:34:43,139 --> 00:34:45,135
to do this. No 1 is expecting me

952
00:34:45,135 --> 00:34:47,130
to post on social with their stuff.

953
00:34:48,497 --> 00:34:50,485
While I'm out on the trails, like, I

954
00:34:50,485 --> 00:34:52,711
am doing this, I'm taking my time away

955
00:34:52,711 --> 00:34:55,813
from my family. I'm taking, like, I'm spending

956
00:34:55,813 --> 00:34:58,058
my money whatever it is, who to do

957
00:34:58,058 --> 00:35:00,855
this race or do this training. So I

958
00:35:00,855 --> 00:35:01,355
wanna

959
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:02,932
feel that, like,

960
00:35:03,731 --> 00:35:05,662
fulfillment from it in a different way way

961
00:35:05,662 --> 00:35:08,152
then that, like, you have to have these

962
00:35:08,527 --> 00:35:10,915
time goals or hit these marks or whatever

963
00:35:10,915 --> 00:35:12,666
that you might feel if you had a

964
00:35:12,666 --> 00:35:14,431
sponsor day if you had that that, like,

965
00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:16,817
level of support. Yeah. I mean, I feel

966
00:35:16,817 --> 00:35:18,885
like in almost every marathon I've ever run.

967
00:35:19,045 --> 00:35:20,889
I'm like, or you know, you get to

968
00:35:20,889 --> 00:35:22,878
that mile 18? You said 17 your race

969
00:35:22,878 --> 00:35:24,946
or 20 or 22? You're like, why the

970
00:35:24,946 --> 00:35:26,458
heck am I doing this to myself? Like,

971
00:35:26,537 --> 00:35:28,854
what, but then you remind yourself, like, I'm

972
00:35:28,854 --> 00:35:31,392
doing this because I feel more alive when

973
00:35:31,551 --> 00:35:33,534
I do this. I'm doing this because I

974
00:35:33,534 --> 00:35:33,772
know how...

975
00:35:34,503 --> 00:35:36,653
Amazing. I'm gonna feel when it's over. Like,

976
00:35:37,052 --> 00:35:38,268
there's no other

977
00:35:38,644 --> 00:35:39,144
external

978
00:35:40,158 --> 00:35:41,751
validation or anything that I should be doing

979
00:35:41,751 --> 00:35:42,786
it for other than like,

980
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,599
I feel more alive when I work really

981
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:45,840
hard.

982
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:49,920
Absolutely. Like, that's that's why we're in this

983
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,925
whole life. Right? To get real deep about

984
00:35:51,925 --> 00:35:53,358
it, but, you know, it's not just to

985
00:35:53,358 --> 00:35:55,187
be, like, a 9 to 5 or or

986
00:35:55,187 --> 00:35:57,668
to just be I'm just mom or... Just,

987
00:35:57,747 --> 00:35:58,622
like a wife, Like,

988
00:35:59,338 --> 00:36:00,316
I have this

989
00:36:01,566 --> 00:36:03,396
intensity in me, and I'm gonna let it

990
00:36:03,396 --> 00:36:04,986
out. And so whatever that is, it does

991
00:36:04,986 --> 00:36:06,235
not to be running, It could be. I'm

992
00:36:06,434 --> 00:36:09,065
pickle ball or whatnot. But just finding that

993
00:36:09,065 --> 00:36:09,862
thing for you.

994
00:36:11,616 --> 00:36:13,449
I think that's just that's the key to...

995
00:36:13,688 --> 00:36:14,406
Yeah. Yes.

996
00:36:15,615 --> 00:36:17,786
New balance. You sponsored by new balance forever.

997
00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:20,570
And what does that feel like

998
00:36:21,025 --> 00:36:22,219
obviously, you haven't been in that world for

999
00:36:22,219 --> 00:36:23,673
a little while now, but

1000
00:36:24,143 --> 00:36:25,681
what does that feel like

1001
00:36:26,058 --> 00:36:28,132
being totally outside of it at this point

1002
00:36:28,132 --> 00:36:31,163
and being on the outside looking in? Like

1003
00:36:31,163 --> 00:36:33,157
we talked about the Olympic trials earlier, like

1004
00:36:33,157 --> 00:36:33,657
seeing

1005
00:36:33,969 --> 00:36:36,523
these athletes who have these brand obligations and

1006
00:36:36,523 --> 00:36:38,597
all this stuff. What does that look like

1007
00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:40,751
to you now? So 1 thing that's really

1008
00:36:40,751 --> 00:36:44,113
interesting. I work in college athletics and the

1009
00:36:44,113 --> 00:36:45,091
big change

1010
00:36:45,547 --> 00:36:47,141
over the past few years is the name

1011
00:36:47,141 --> 00:36:49,630
image likeness so that Call athletes.

1012
00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:50,849
Can get

1013
00:36:51,309 --> 00:36:53,010
deals. They can be entrepreneurs.

1014
00:36:53,309 --> 00:36:54,990
They can get paid to play a concert,

1015
00:36:55,150 --> 00:36:57,010
whatever it is. They can get paid

1016
00:36:57,390 --> 00:36:59,313
all where they couldn't before because they were

1017
00:36:59,313 --> 00:37:02,176
an athlete, and they were an amateur. And

1018
00:37:02,176 --> 00:37:05,436
so I am really fired up skiing all

1019
00:37:05,436 --> 00:37:08,871
the college runners getting these I deals with

1020
00:37:08,871 --> 00:37:10,701
on or new balance or anyone,

1021
00:37:11,735 --> 00:37:14,121
and being able to make money. While there's

1022
00:37:14,121 --> 00:37:16,210
still call Athlete lead. I just think that's

1023
00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:18,523
such a cool opportunity. And so, like, big

1024
00:37:18,523 --> 00:37:21,077
applause to folks like new balance. Mh. And

1025
00:37:21,077 --> 00:37:22,849
other brands who are taking advantage of this.

1026
00:37:23,090 --> 00:37:26,210
Like, these athletes have big following. They have

1027
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:28,289
a voice. They have an opinion,

1028
00:37:29,103 --> 00:37:31,324
and they're running really amazing. They're making Olympic

1029
00:37:31,324 --> 00:37:32,831
teams or they're getting to the trials,

1030
00:37:33,545 --> 00:37:34,734
which is a huge accomplishment,

1031
00:37:35,923 --> 00:37:38,167
but especially when you're... In college and you're

1032
00:37:38,167 --> 00:37:41,041
balancing all the things. So to see them

1033
00:37:41,041 --> 00:37:44,015
get the chance to experience that sponsorship life

1034
00:37:44,153 --> 00:37:46,045
before having to dive all the way in

1035
00:37:46,243 --> 00:37:47,196
be a full pro.

1036
00:37:47,831 --> 00:37:50,054
I think is a really cool opportunity. And

1037
00:37:50,054 --> 00:37:50,554
so,

1038
00:37:50,928 --> 00:37:52,675
yeah, I'm fired up. I will say you're

1039
00:37:52,675 --> 00:37:54,739
talking about the trials. Like new balance always

1040
00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:56,503
had the best house they would bring a

1041
00:37:56,503 --> 00:37:56,900
chef in.

1042
00:37:57,615 --> 00:38:00,079
I still follow the chef, chef Jb, and

1043
00:38:00,635 --> 00:38:02,861
he's been posting, you know, Instagram stories about

1044
00:38:02,861 --> 00:38:03,833
what he's cooking for everyone?

1045
00:38:04,711 --> 00:38:05,589
I missed that a lot.

1046
00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:08,223
I know I'm like, well you're you're going

1047
00:38:08,223 --> 00:38:09,980
to the final weekend. Can you just, like

1048
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:12,055
go be like, hey, Jb. Can I get

1049
00:38:12,055 --> 00:38:14,146
a little? Omelette or something? Yeah. Where's the

1050
00:38:14,146 --> 00:38:17,897
pancakes? No. He's that probably probably. Really.

1051
00:38:19,094 --> 00:38:21,271
But, yeah. I think, you know, with

1052
00:38:22,063 --> 00:38:22,563
I

1053
00:38:23,502 --> 00:38:25,579
know that some brands love to use their

1054
00:38:25,579 --> 00:38:27,038
athletes like, in their

1055
00:38:27,497 --> 00:38:29,575
marketing and stuff, and I think new balance

1056
00:38:29,575 --> 00:38:31,421
is, like, doing a great job of that,

1057
00:38:31,898 --> 00:38:34,123
especially with, you know, the Sydney Mc, the,

1058
00:38:34,203 --> 00:38:36,270
you know, Mh new faces.

1059
00:38:36,985 --> 00:38:38,416
They started doing that with us, They... When

1060
00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:39,784
they had a lot of women, you know,

1061
00:38:39,943 --> 00:38:41,777
Emma, Jenny, Brenda,

1062
00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:45,365
Abby, like, all of those... Gosh, like, I

1063
00:38:45,365 --> 00:38:47,916
think of my time as a sponsored athlete

1064
00:38:47,916 --> 00:38:49,769
and, like, you we just had the best

1065
00:38:49,769 --> 00:38:51,929
roster. You really did. Corey.

1066
00:38:52,409 --> 00:38:53,929
Emily Sis. Mh.

1067
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:56,670
Did I mention Jenny Simpson like just

1068
00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:58,304
thing. So

1069
00:38:59,222 --> 00:39:01,295
yeah. So cool, and it was just such

1070
00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:03,289
a privilege to be part of that for

1071
00:39:03,289 --> 00:39:06,799
for 10 years. So... Yeah. Wow. 10 years.

1072
00:39:07,836 --> 00:39:08,289
That's a lot

1073
00:39:09,043 --> 00:39:09,916
That is a lot.

1074
00:39:10,551 --> 00:39:12,559
You know when I talked to Jenny Simpson

1075
00:39:13,011 --> 00:39:13,749
most recently

1076
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,865
and talked about... Her moving on from new

1077
00:39:17,865 --> 00:39:18,182
balance.

1078
00:39:18,976 --> 00:39:20,721
I I don't wanna quote her because I

1079
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,119
I won't say it exactly right. But she

1080
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:24,478
said something along the lines of, like, that

1081
00:39:24,478 --> 00:39:25,836
was 1 of the greatest heartbreak breaks of

1082
00:39:25,836 --> 00:39:27,215
her career is when

1083
00:39:27,594 --> 00:39:30,412
her relationship as a sponsored athlete for them

1084
00:39:30,711 --> 00:39:32,962
ended. And I I imagine it was. What

1085
00:39:32,962 --> 00:39:34,790
was that like for you? I I don't

1086
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:36,460
remember when you were tired, like, you didn't

1087
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:38,685
make, like, a big announcement or anything? No.

1088
00:39:39,003 --> 00:39:41,387
It just was, it was a combination of...

1089
00:39:41,959 --> 00:39:44,527
And I was still going to have some

1090
00:39:44,585 --> 00:39:46,891
light support from them, but I really had

1091
00:39:46,891 --> 00:39:49,040
been dealing with injuries. I hadn't really raped.

1092
00:39:50,172 --> 00:39:52,406
To my best potential for a little bit.

1093
00:39:52,805 --> 00:39:54,720
And so it was just time to to

1094
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,527
step back and not feel that least pressure

1095
00:39:57,527 --> 00:40:00,081
or obligation both ways. Right? Like, they didn't

1096
00:40:00,081 --> 00:40:01,837
need to feel the obligation to keep giving

1097
00:40:01,837 --> 00:40:04,072
me gear and, you know, and a salary

1098
00:40:04,072 --> 00:40:04,630
or anything,

1099
00:40:05,044 --> 00:40:07,278
and I didn't wanna feel that obligation to

1100
00:40:07,278 --> 00:40:09,753
be, and they never had a contract like

1101
00:40:09,753 --> 00:40:11,987
you hear with some athletes from other brands

1102
00:40:11,987 --> 00:40:14,400
of, like, have to run. These 10 races.

1103
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:15,539
Like, it wasn't

1104
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,840
that intense for me. But

1105
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,559
you know, you just... When you're sponsored out

1106
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:22,887
that you want to go and represent your

1107
00:40:22,887 --> 00:40:25,277
your brand and and your team. And so...

1108
00:40:26,711 --> 00:40:28,558
And it was shifting too. There were so

1109
00:40:28,558 --> 00:40:30,387
many groups now, you know, there's the team

1110
00:40:30,387 --> 00:40:32,853
boss. There's just Mh. They're the the new

1111
00:40:32,853 --> 00:40:35,734
balance Boston group, like, there were definitely starting

1112
00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:37,651
to shift their resources in a different way.

1113
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:40,527
So it just was the right time for

1114
00:40:40,527 --> 00:40:41,566
me to say, hey,

1115
00:40:42,285 --> 00:40:44,291
like, I know I'm my contract up, but

1116
00:40:44,371 --> 00:40:46,280
I'm on an extension, but, like, I think

1117
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,894
this is time to just

1118
00:40:49,144 --> 00:40:50,973
that being said to to go back to

1119
00:40:50,973 --> 00:40:54,010
what you... To Jenny comment, it was such...

1120
00:40:54,328 --> 00:40:55,782
It is such a great

1121
00:40:56,156 --> 00:40:59,550
brand. Like, their, like, corporate office is just

1122
00:40:59,827 --> 00:41:02,208
they're great people, their true track fans,

1123
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,739
and

1124
00:41:04,429 --> 00:41:06,571
especially in my era. It was just really

1125
00:41:06,571 --> 00:41:09,452
had that family feel. Which I can't speak

1126
00:41:09,452 --> 00:41:10,969
to any other brand, but

1127
00:41:11,767 --> 00:41:13,603
it was really an awesome experience.

1128
00:41:14,322 --> 00:41:17,196
Why did you decide to not, like, make

1129
00:41:17,196 --> 00:41:18,965
somebody big enough? When you retired.

1130
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,551
It probably goes back to what we were

1131
00:41:22,551 --> 00:41:24,144
mentioning in the beginning a little bit of

1132
00:41:24,144 --> 00:41:24,623
that, like,

1133
00:41:25,992 --> 00:41:27,981
I guess I'll use the word shame or

1134
00:41:27,981 --> 00:41:30,766
just like, no. I I think I always...

1135
00:41:31,403 --> 00:41:32,756
I don't... I don't quite know how to

1136
00:41:32,756 --> 00:41:34,268
say this, but I think that I've...

1137
00:41:35,476 --> 00:41:38,363
Always just felt, like, I'm not this big

1138
00:41:38,499 --> 00:41:38,999
premier

1139
00:41:39,454 --> 00:41:41,840
like, headline grabbing athlete. Like, I have a

1140
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,161
great little following. I've got people who, you

1141
00:41:44,161 --> 00:41:45,114
know, support me,

1142
00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:48,611
amazing coaches and peers, but I'm certainly not

1143
00:41:48,611 --> 00:41:50,678
someone with hundreds of thousands of followers who

1144
00:41:50,678 --> 00:41:52,839
are hanging on my every word. And so...

1145
00:41:53,713 --> 00:41:55,223
And I also just knew that I... I

1146
00:41:55,223 --> 00:41:58,244
was gonna shift my priorities into some different

1147
00:41:58,244 --> 00:42:00,877
kinds of race thing into having a big

1148
00:42:00,877 --> 00:42:03,098
girl job into having a family 1 day.

1149
00:42:03,494 --> 00:42:04,788
And I just didn't wanna

1150
00:42:05,161 --> 00:42:06,295
feel, like

1151
00:42:06,905 --> 00:42:08,428
thing I don't know. I wanted to just

1152
00:42:08,428 --> 00:42:11,283
have everything evolve gradually and not have this

1153
00:42:11,283 --> 00:42:12,790
hard, like, and it's over.

1154
00:42:14,218 --> 00:42:15,036
And so

1155
00:42:15,661 --> 00:42:17,824
I knew I was gonna still do some

1156
00:42:18,275 --> 00:42:20,122
racing. It was just gonna look different

1157
00:42:21,444 --> 00:42:23,125
and not be as much, shouldn't not be

1158
00:42:23,125 --> 00:42:25,190
as hardcore as Olympic trials, but

1159
00:42:25,826 --> 00:42:27,414
I... Yeah. I just didn't feel like I

1160
00:42:27,414 --> 00:42:29,106
needed to do a big, huge

1161
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,933
goodbye tour because

1162
00:42:31,244 --> 00:42:32,443
I just didn't feel like I was that

1163
00:42:32,443 --> 00:42:33,322
level of an athlete.

1164
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,998
That's that's interesting that you... I mean, I

1165
00:42:37,078 --> 00:42:38,516
I get what you're saying and why you

1166
00:42:38,516 --> 00:42:41,245
felt like that. I feel like... That really

1167
00:42:41,245 --> 00:42:42,143
relates to

1168
00:42:42,837 --> 00:42:43,394
any career.

1169
00:42:45,066 --> 00:42:46,419
I mean, as you were talking,

1170
00:42:46,976 --> 00:42:48,273
I was feeling that

1171
00:42:48,744 --> 00:42:49,803
to my soul

1172
00:42:50,501 --> 00:42:51,401
about this podcast.

1173
00:42:52,579 --> 00:42:53,936
I was like, well, if I just up

1174
00:42:53,936 --> 00:42:54,975
and quit 1 day, like,

1175
00:42:56,344 --> 00:42:57,854
would I... Who what would I even say?

1176
00:42:58,013 --> 00:43:00,159
Like, would anybody care? And, like, I don't

1177
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,829
even like that those feelings were coming into

1178
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:03,657
my mind, but they were as you were

1179
00:43:03,657 --> 00:43:05,903
saying that? And I'm sure there's lots of

1180
00:43:05,903 --> 00:43:08,460
people that feel that, like, deeply with whatever

1181
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:09,819
it is they're doing? Like,

1182
00:43:10,538 --> 00:43:12,695
who do I matter to like, who's gonna

1183
00:43:12,695 --> 00:43:14,706
care enough if... If I shift or do

1184
00:43:14,706 --> 00:43:15,822
this or do that. And...

1185
00:43:17,497 --> 00:43:19,890
But I wanna validate that your career was

1186
00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:23,021
meaningful and important, and you did amazing things

1187
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,076
if Well, and let's take that... Go back

1188
00:43:25,076 --> 00:43:25,393
to my,

1189
00:43:26,107 --> 00:43:29,119
feeling at mile 17 Ci. Like, let's go

1190
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,757
back to that calling quickly People sq mindset

1191
00:43:31,757 --> 00:43:33,592
of, like, you are the star of your

1192
00:43:33,592 --> 00:43:35,985
own show. And that's you are worthy of

1193
00:43:35,985 --> 00:43:37,900
that. And so, like, it doesn't matter if

1194
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,876
you're audience is, you know, a thousand listeners

1195
00:43:41,011 --> 00:43:43,313
or, you know, a hundred thousand followers or

1196
00:43:43,313 --> 00:43:46,409
whatever it is, and whatever lane you're in,

1197
00:43:46,885 --> 00:43:49,365
audience like, you're allowed to go out as

1198
00:43:49,365 --> 00:43:50,877
big or as low key as you want.

1199
00:43:51,115 --> 00:43:52,150
I think I'm just more of a low

1200
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:52,627
key person,

1201
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:53,954
like

1202
00:43:54,713 --> 00:43:56,947
not as flashy as sometimes it looks like

1203
00:43:56,947 --> 00:43:59,021
on Instagram. You know, back in the day

1204
00:43:59,021 --> 00:44:01,016
when you're in a big training group and

1205
00:44:01,016 --> 00:44:02,949
you're in a diamond race and you can

1206
00:44:02,949 --> 00:44:03,670
be flashy,

1207
00:44:04,389 --> 00:44:05,989
but I think I'm much more just like,

1208
00:44:06,549 --> 00:44:08,710
under the radar than than that as a

1209
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:09,029
person,

1210
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,671
I think that I'm gonna have to really

1211
00:44:11,671 --> 00:44:14,216
lean into that calling quick... I mean, I'll

1212
00:44:14,216 --> 00:44:16,125
never look like a super supermodel like calling

1213
00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:17,795
quickly, but, like, I think I really need

1214
00:44:17,795 --> 00:44:19,328
to, like, lean into that

1215
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:20,139
mindset,

1216
00:44:20,514 --> 00:44:22,346
I I don't know that I've ever heard

1217
00:44:22,346 --> 00:44:24,358
any anybody, like, give that

1218
00:44:24,734 --> 00:44:26,566
anecdote or whatever, but I love it so

1219
00:44:26,566 --> 00:44:27,894
much. And now I'm like, I gotta get

1220
00:44:27,934 --> 00:44:30,162
colleen back on the show. You do. And

1221
00:44:30,162 --> 00:44:31,515
she probably would have be like, I don't

1222
00:44:31,515 --> 00:44:32,868
know if she might, like, laugh at me

1223
00:44:32,868 --> 00:44:34,619
if if she, like, heard that, like, I

1224
00:44:34,619 --> 00:44:36,625
think that I Her that way. But Yeah

1225
00:44:36,704 --> 00:44:37,661
I love it. Compliment.

1226
00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:40,052
You know, yeah. Were peers in the space.

1227
00:44:40,211 --> 00:44:42,920
We were teammates in 20 15 worlds and,

1228
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,255
Anna you know, she... She's a great person,

1229
00:44:45,894 --> 00:44:47,494
and I hope that all of her, like,

1230
00:44:47,815 --> 00:44:50,295
endeavors go as well as they look on

1231
00:44:50,614 --> 00:44:50,855
Instagram.

1232
00:44:51,815 --> 00:44:52,269
But

1233
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:55,110
Yeah. It's just something it's a good it's

1234
00:44:55,110 --> 00:44:56,869
good to have someone that you...

1235
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:58,949
I don't know. I think I I think

1236
00:44:58,949 --> 00:44:59,269
about this.

1237
00:45:00,644 --> 00:45:02,005
Maybe I don't wanna bring up be, like,

1238
00:45:02,085 --> 00:45:04,425
oh, because I'm a woman, but, like, I

1239
00:45:04,724 --> 00:45:06,005
want to be able to have a moment

1240
00:45:06,005 --> 00:45:06,885
where I can like, look in the mirror

1241
00:45:06,885 --> 00:45:08,460
and say, like, you're a badass ass. Like

1242
00:45:08,579 --> 00:45:10,500
let's go do this. Walk into this Zoom

1243
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:14,500
meeting or go to the toddler playground with

1244
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:16,579
your kid and like, just own own your

1245
00:45:16,579 --> 00:45:17,639
space. And so

1246
00:45:18,272 --> 00:45:19,865
b you. So that's

1247
00:45:20,582 --> 00:45:22,357
we all kinda need that little, like, superhero

1248
00:45:22,414 --> 00:45:23,472
moment, and so

1249
00:45:24,327 --> 00:45:26,318
totally, I was just like, I did this

1250
00:45:26,637 --> 00:45:28,715
Instagram story. The other day, and, I was

1251
00:45:28,715 --> 00:45:30,855
talking about, like, getting more eyes on track

1252
00:45:30,855 --> 00:45:32,678
and field and Michael Johnson's thing that he's

1253
00:45:32,678 --> 00:45:34,184
doing, and then I was like, saying, like,

1254
00:45:34,501 --> 00:45:34,635
breathe

1255
00:45:35,710 --> 00:45:37,860
like, how can we tell more stories like,

1256
00:45:38,259 --> 00:45:40,887
for instance, like, your story being highlighted in

1257
00:45:40,887 --> 00:45:43,356
bigger ways when you are competing things like

1258
00:45:43,356 --> 00:45:45,356
that. And then after I put the story

1259
00:45:45,356 --> 00:45:47,099
up, I was, like, who was I to

1260
00:45:47,099 --> 00:45:49,399
voice my opinion? Like, who was I to

1261
00:45:49,399 --> 00:45:51,063
talk about this? And I had these, like...

1262
00:45:52,111 --> 00:45:56,109
Gross annoying doubts that, like, I didn't deserve

1263
00:45:56,484 --> 00:45:58,789
to, like, have an opinion or, like, thoughts

1264
00:45:58,789 --> 00:45:59,187
on that?

1265
00:45:59,918 --> 00:46:01,673
I'm like, lindsay, what are? What are you

1266
00:46:01,673 --> 00:46:03,985
doing? Like, why do you care if people

1267
00:46:03,985 --> 00:46:05,900
do or do not think that you deserve

1268
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:07,096
to have a voice in this? Why do

1269
00:46:07,096 --> 00:46:09,031
you think you don't? I just

1270
00:46:09,344 --> 00:46:10,699
Why do we do that to ourselves?

1271
00:46:11,416 --> 00:46:12,931
I don't know. I don't know, but I

1272
00:46:12,931 --> 00:46:14,445
know I've always done that to myself. And

1273
00:46:14,445 --> 00:46:16,996
so I'm here. I'm dev validating you, Lindsay.

1274
00:46:17,155 --> 00:46:18,998
You have... A voice. You're you're using it.

1275
00:46:19,156 --> 00:46:20,268
Your platform is amazing.

1276
00:46:21,458 --> 00:46:23,070
III think we all

1277
00:46:23,523 --> 00:46:25,244
we all do that. All do this. I'm

1278
00:46:25,364 --> 00:46:26,637
in whatever context.

1279
00:46:29,184 --> 00:46:31,333
Alright, friends. I wanna let you know if

1280
00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:33,880
you are treating for a half marathon or

1281
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,519
a marathon, I have training plans on my

1282
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,143
website at lindsay high dot com. The half

1283
00:46:39,143 --> 00:46:41,846
marathon plans are 14 weeks. There's a beginner

1284
00:46:41,846 --> 00:46:44,152
beginner so a beginner as you can get.

1285
00:46:44,803 --> 00:46:47,585
There's a beginner intermediate. There's an intermediate and

1286
00:46:47,585 --> 00:46:50,209
there's advanced. So there's 4 options. And then

1287
00:46:50,209 --> 00:46:52,913
we have marathon training plans that are 18

1288
00:46:52,913 --> 00:46:54,599
weeks that give you a nice base spilled,

1289
00:46:54,919 --> 00:46:56,837
and I have 3 options there, a beginner,

1290
00:46:57,316 --> 00:46:59,474
intermediate and advanced. When you go to the

1291
00:46:59,474 --> 00:47:01,232
website and click on each training plan, it'll

1292
00:47:01,232 --> 00:47:02,830
tell you what the Mileage starts at.

1293
00:47:03,485 --> 00:47:05,565
With the long run starts starts at with

1294
00:47:05,565 --> 00:47:06,065
the

1295
00:47:06,684 --> 00:47:08,844
entirety of the week total mileage is at

1296
00:47:08,844 --> 00:47:11,105
and how it builds you. I'm super conservative

1297
00:47:11,164 --> 00:47:13,500
with how I build miles. And I've had

1298
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,340
a lot of people who have had tons

1299
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:17,579
of success. Go to lindsay hi dot com

1300
00:47:17,579 --> 00:47:19,500
to learn more and grab yourself an awesome

1301
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:19,900
training plan.

1302
00:47:20,709 --> 00:47:21,740
Alright. Back to the show.

1303
00:47:24,992 --> 00:47:26,340
I think we should talk a little bit

1304
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:27,767
about the 20 15.

1305
00:47:28,418 --> 00:47:30,247
World's team that you are on because we

1306
00:47:30,247 --> 00:47:31,224
should talk about

1307
00:47:31,758 --> 00:47:34,383
the really big moments that you got to

1308
00:47:34,383 --> 00:47:36,076
celebrate and that we'll always be

1309
00:47:37,102 --> 00:47:39,649
on that line on your Wikipedia page or

1310
00:47:39,649 --> 00:47:40,149
whatever.

1311
00:47:40,683 --> 00:47:43,866
So talk about that moment and what that

1312
00:47:43,866 --> 00:47:46,673
meant in your, the, like, holistic view of

1313
00:47:46,673 --> 00:47:47,392
your career.

1314
00:47:48,110 --> 00:47:48,349
Yeah.

1315
00:47:48,988 --> 00:47:51,063
Like, thinking back to just making that team.

1316
00:47:51,463 --> 00:47:52,340
Oh, my gosh. Like,

1317
00:47:53,472 --> 00:47:55,382
Everyone who's doing the trials. And tonight, you

1318
00:47:55,382 --> 00:47:58,090
know, the S Chase final to give context

1319
00:47:58,090 --> 00:48:00,240
for when we're recording this, but I'm I'm

1320
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,650
super emotional because this is gonna be a

1321
00:48:02,650 --> 00:48:05,530
fresh team of Olympia, like, totally. You know,

1322
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:07,610
we have our 3 former Olympia who are

1323
00:48:07,610 --> 00:48:09,210
not gonna... Who are not competing.

1324
00:48:10,261 --> 00:48:12,722
So sad and devastated for them, but gosh,

1325
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,342
like, I'm gonna be on pins and needles

1326
00:48:15,342 --> 00:48:17,803
this whole race of, like, who's gonna make

1327
00:48:17,803 --> 00:48:20,121
it. I am I'm already again, getting goosebumps

1328
00:48:20,121 --> 00:48:22,346
again. But to take me back to 20

1329
00:48:22,346 --> 00:48:22,584
15,

1330
00:48:23,378 --> 00:48:25,523
you just know, like, my coach and I,

1331
00:48:25,603 --> 00:48:27,112
my coach at the time Robert Gary,

1332
00:48:28,478 --> 00:48:29,113
from Thurman,

1333
00:48:29,590 --> 00:48:29,908
he,

1334
00:48:30,623 --> 00:48:33,562
and I would talk about how success was

1335
00:48:33,562 --> 00:48:34,650
the culmination of

1336
00:48:35,247 --> 00:48:39,150
opportunity and preparation. When preparation opportunity, that's where

1337
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:40,447
success is. And so

1338
00:48:40,903 --> 00:48:41,403
I

1339
00:48:41,953 --> 00:48:45,205
was really fit. We'd worked really hard. He's

1340
00:48:45,205 --> 00:48:47,108
a 2 time Olympia in the S. So

1341
00:48:47,188 --> 00:48:48,853
I trust everything that he gave me. I

1342
00:48:48,853 --> 00:48:51,489
just did he told me And I we

1343
00:48:51,489 --> 00:48:53,738
were ready, and I had an aggressive race

1344
00:48:54,033 --> 00:48:56,735
plan. I was an aggressive race back then.

1345
00:48:58,023 --> 00:49:00,179
Getting on Emma and just, like, following her

1346
00:49:00,179 --> 00:49:01,855
as long as I could until she had

1347
00:49:01,855 --> 00:49:02,595
that other

1348
00:49:02,973 --> 00:49:05,048
amazing year and chopped everybody. But,

1349
00:49:05,927 --> 00:49:06,565
I did that.

1350
00:49:07,377 --> 00:49:09,446
Across the line. I was second, and I

1351
00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:11,276
made that team. I crawled across the line.

1352
00:49:11,435 --> 00:49:13,208
I was so tired at that point, but

1353
00:49:14,633 --> 00:49:16,065
and then to get, you know, fast forward

1354
00:49:16,065 --> 00:49:16,860
get to Beijing,

1355
00:49:18,212 --> 00:49:20,598
I had been on the 20 11 world

1356
00:49:20,598 --> 00:49:23,079
team before 2, I was an alternate. That

1357
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:24,519
got called in at the last minute, So

1358
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:25,420
I had been

1359
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,739
on that world stage as a

1360
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,480
college senior.

1361
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,594
Wow. That And so

1362
00:49:33,009 --> 00:49:34,228
I just felt

1363
00:49:35,164 --> 00:49:36,761
prepared for the moment. I felt like I

1364
00:49:36,761 --> 00:49:38,916
had done the preparation and the opportunity was

1365
00:49:38,916 --> 00:49:39,155
there.

1366
00:49:40,204 --> 00:49:40,443
We...

1367
00:49:41,793 --> 00:49:42,690
Yeah. I,

1368
00:49:43,223 --> 00:49:44,494
I guess I just have this, like, huge

1369
00:49:44,494 --> 00:49:46,559
smile, my face remembering, and being in that

1370
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:47,694
final, and

1371
00:49:48,082 --> 00:49:48,795
Yeah. Like,

1372
00:49:49,668 --> 00:49:50,326
the race

1373
00:49:51,411 --> 00:49:52,759
played differently than we thought,

1374
00:49:53,552 --> 00:49:55,296
it was kind of like a slow fast.

1375
00:49:55,709 --> 00:49:57,627
Faster and we thought it might start fast.

1376
00:49:57,787 --> 00:49:59,146
And anyway, it just...

1377
00:50:00,504 --> 00:50:03,301
But finishing in ninth, ninth in the world,

1378
00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:06,512
just I Yeah. I can't... I couldn't have

1379
00:50:06,512 --> 00:50:08,670
done anything more in that moment. I did

1380
00:50:08,670 --> 00:50:10,429
a... I put it all out there, and,

1381
00:50:10,908 --> 00:50:12,027
it was so cool.

1382
00:50:12,746 --> 00:50:14,159
And that was the first time we had

1383
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:15,659
Not just all 3

1384
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,440
Us women make the final, at the world

1385
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:18,920
championship.

1386
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,480
We had all 3 Us men s make

1387
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,039
the final.

1388
00:50:22,534 --> 00:50:24,612
And so that was really cool to have,

1389
00:50:24,692 --> 00:50:26,070
like, a full team

1390
00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:28,208
in the final of the S.

1391
00:50:30,125 --> 00:50:32,780
Yeah. It was just... Really... I just think

1392
00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:34,859
that I was part of this really, really

1393
00:50:34,859 --> 00:50:35,420
cool era.

1394
00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:38,859
You were. Of of Steep specifically, but track

1395
00:50:38,859 --> 00:50:39,359
to

1396
00:50:39,659 --> 00:50:40,159
where

1397
00:50:40,553 --> 00:50:41,030
Nowadays,

1398
00:50:42,063 --> 00:50:42,961
the Us

1399
00:50:43,415 --> 00:50:43,915
distance

1400
00:50:44,289 --> 00:50:46,755
athletes are so dominant, like, we're talking about,

1401
00:50:46,834 --> 00:50:48,050
like, oh, is

1402
00:50:48,597 --> 00:50:50,182
Cra gonna win a medal. Like,

1403
00:50:51,291 --> 00:50:53,114
you know, I was there when when,

1404
00:50:54,381 --> 00:50:54,881
Emily

1405
00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:58,528
is Warner metal. And, you know, Molly, like,

1406
00:50:58,608 --> 00:51:00,914
she out outlined molly. Like. Like, it just...

1407
00:51:01,233 --> 00:51:03,558
That was a first for Oh, my gosh.

1408
00:51:03,718 --> 00:51:05,795
That was the 20 15 world championship. When

1409
00:51:05,875 --> 00:51:06,834
Emily metal.

1410
00:51:07,713 --> 00:51:07,873
Yeah.

1411
00:51:08,992 --> 00:51:10,610
And so just like

1412
00:51:11,083 --> 00:51:12,999
and the our 800 meter ago. Like, we

1413
00:51:12,999 --> 00:51:14,915
we just... Right now, the Us is, like,

1414
00:51:15,074 --> 00:51:16,990
dominant across the board, and I got to

1415
00:51:16,990 --> 00:51:19,385
be there for, like, seeing those pieces, like,

1416
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,491
start coming into place, and

1417
00:51:22,741 --> 00:51:24,969
it just feels really cool. There's times where

1418
00:51:25,048 --> 00:51:26,161
I wish that I was, like,

1419
00:51:26,815 --> 00:51:28,815
3 years younger. And then I would in

1420
00:51:28,815 --> 00:51:31,155
super shoes or some, like, different level of

1421
00:51:31,295 --> 00:51:31,454
sponsorship.

1422
00:51:33,295 --> 00:51:35,110
And sometimes I wish I was older where

1423
00:51:35,229 --> 00:51:37,214
like, it was all new and you could

1424
00:51:37,214 --> 00:51:38,881
just run, like, 10 flat in the steep.

1425
00:51:39,278 --> 00:51:41,105
You be like the 1. Yeah. 1,

1426
00:51:41,819 --> 00:51:44,853
but I'm I'm I'm so just, like, grateful

1427
00:51:44,853 --> 00:51:47,181
for the place that I was put in

1428
00:51:47,396 --> 00:51:48,746
and the era I was put in,

1429
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:50,280
because

1430
00:51:50,749 --> 00:51:52,764
I don't know. There was also just grit

1431
00:51:52,823 --> 00:51:54,737
to it? I know. Athletes are gritty now.

1432
00:51:54,896 --> 00:51:56,492
Don't get me wrong. But, like, we didn't

1433
00:51:56,492 --> 00:51:57,528
have all the, like,

1434
00:51:58,805 --> 00:52:00,262
should we just... It was just different

1435
00:52:00,733 --> 00:52:02,561
maybe all the older athletes say that like,

1436
00:52:03,356 --> 00:52:05,105
hey we had to go uphill both ways.

1437
00:52:05,343 --> 00:52:05,581
But

1438
00:52:06,217 --> 00:52:09,499
you know, every every next generation gets

1439
00:52:09,969 --> 00:52:12,125
things done a little bit differently, and maybe

1440
00:52:12,125 --> 00:52:12,843
a little bit better,

1441
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,217
comes with different pressures too. But

1442
00:52:16,914 --> 00:52:18,831
I just... I'm biased, but I loved my

1443
00:52:18,831 --> 00:52:19,070
era.

1444
00:52:19,804 --> 00:52:21,881
I love that so much. You're so right

1445
00:52:21,881 --> 00:52:23,958
there, like, every... Because I'm I'm a little

1446
00:52:23,958 --> 00:52:25,876
bit older than you, but like, we... Same

1447
00:52:25,876 --> 00:52:28,200
thing with, like, all these big marathons. I'm

1448
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,662
always like, it was so different early on

1449
00:52:30,662 --> 00:52:33,521
in the early days. Like, everything's changed so

1450
00:52:33,521 --> 00:52:35,602
much I'm like, Lindsay. Just fine. Go at

1451
00:52:35,602 --> 00:52:36,658
the times, man...

1452
00:52:37,669 --> 00:52:39,497
Yeah. I... I don't wanna be like that

1453
00:52:39,497 --> 00:52:40,633
growing and the person

1454
00:52:41,166 --> 00:52:43,804
oh shaking my fist. Like, you and your

1455
00:52:43,884 --> 00:52:46,847
Super Pursues and your fancy agents and your

1456
00:52:46,983 --> 00:52:47,777
deals, but, like,

1457
00:52:48,890 --> 00:52:51,291
theory though to think back. To, like, what

1458
00:52:51,291 --> 00:52:53,282
it was. I think it's... I think that's

1459
00:52:53,282 --> 00:52:56,389
special because that moment in time matters. I

1460
00:52:56,389 --> 00:52:58,380
can remember my, like, first trip to Europe,

1461
00:52:58,778 --> 00:52:59,336
again, like, that...

1462
00:53:00,069 --> 00:53:02,465
Like, fifth year senior of college, just, like,

1463
00:53:02,865 --> 00:53:04,862
getting a ticket to... I think I was

1464
00:53:04,862 --> 00:53:06,300
going to Switzerland and just, like,

1465
00:53:07,114 --> 00:53:08,795
where do I go? I land. No 1

1466
00:53:08,795 --> 00:53:10,074
told me where to go? How do I

1467
00:53:10,074 --> 00:53:12,474
find the race people? I, like, wandered around

1468
00:53:12,474 --> 00:53:14,487
for an hour. Like, it just... I my

1469
00:53:14,487 --> 00:53:16,322
cell phone didn't work. You know, Like, it's

1470
00:53:16,322 --> 00:53:19,034
just so different now. Everyone's so connected and

1471
00:53:19,034 --> 00:53:20,810
dialed in, and you can see everything,

1472
00:53:21,826 --> 00:53:23,761
like, via social media. That's

1473
00:53:24,073 --> 00:53:26,381
that that is a privilege in a in

1474
00:53:26,381 --> 00:53:28,768
a in a struggle. I'm sure, pressure and

1475
00:53:28,768 --> 00:53:31,394
a privilege. So for sure. Everything on Str.

1476
00:53:31,633 --> 00:53:33,146
Put all your training out there, like,

1477
00:53:33,878 --> 00:53:36,827
everyone can judge that. I'm... That's not I

1478
00:53:36,827 --> 00:53:39,138
hide my struggle like, especially now when I'm

1479
00:53:39,138 --> 00:53:40,754
running, like, barely, but

1480
00:53:41,782 --> 00:53:43,449
Oh, I wanna see your str. I don't

1481
00:53:43,449 --> 00:53:43,766
hide it.

1482
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,219
Oh.

1483
00:53:46,545 --> 00:53:49,895
Here's the caveat. I do so much. Stroller

1484
00:53:49,895 --> 00:53:50,134
running.

1485
00:53:50,770 --> 00:53:53,155
Yes. We're out of this phase, but so

1486
00:53:53,155 --> 00:53:55,620
many of my miles are stroller miles. Oh,

1487
00:53:55,779 --> 00:53:57,130
yeah. Like little that.

1488
00:53:57,781 --> 00:53:59,131
But I would always just write it on

1489
00:53:59,131 --> 00:54:00,561
the title. I would be, like, stroller run,

1490
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,816
or I'd be, like, better yet. Double stroller

1491
00:54:03,816 --> 00:54:05,643
run. Because let me tell you that double

1492
00:54:05,643 --> 00:54:06,278
stroller is...

1493
00:54:07,088 --> 00:54:09,401
Way harder than the single. Let's get into

1494
00:54:09,401 --> 00:54:11,396
that. What which what was the 1 you

1495
00:54:11,396 --> 00:54:13,868
use? Was it the box? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

1496
00:54:14,027 --> 00:54:15,543
Use the Bob. I actually still have it

1497
00:54:15,543 --> 00:54:16,993
sitting out here. I can, like, see it

1498
00:54:16,993 --> 00:54:17,550
out my window.

1499
00:54:18,266 --> 00:54:20,096
We have to... I have, like, so much

1500
00:54:20,096 --> 00:54:21,449
crap that I need to just, like, get

1501
00:54:21,449 --> 00:54:22,403
rid of that's out there.

1502
00:54:23,597 --> 00:54:25,347
But I mean let me v you for

1503
00:54:25,347 --> 00:54:27,113
that. You right fill it out to me.

1504
00:54:27,273 --> 00:54:29,422
Oh, you don't want it. Nobody wants this

1505
00:54:29,422 --> 00:54:30,059
bob. I mean,

1506
00:54:30,775 --> 00:54:32,367
we always say, like, I wish that we

1507
00:54:32,367 --> 00:54:34,014
would have put an odometer on it. And

1508
00:54:34,452 --> 00:54:36,121
because my husband also did a lot of

1509
00:54:36,121 --> 00:54:38,187
stroller running with it. I mean, I've done

1510
00:54:38,187 --> 00:54:40,731
20 mile runs with that thing. Yep. Just

1511
00:54:40,731 --> 00:54:41,048
like,

1512
00:54:42,256 --> 00:54:44,882
it's in... I mean, 5000 miles. I don't

1513
00:54:44,882 --> 00:54:46,713
know. It's got a lot of freaking miles

1514
00:54:46,713 --> 00:54:47,030
on it.

1515
00:54:47,747 --> 00:54:49,418
The double Bob not so much. I just...

1516
00:54:49,736 --> 00:54:50,373
I never...

1517
00:54:51,104 --> 00:54:53,891
Really enjoyed a double stroller run. I will

1518
00:54:53,891 --> 00:54:56,599
say that we saw the other day this

1519
00:54:56,599 --> 00:54:59,228
couple, and she was pushing, like, the... They

1520
00:54:59,228 --> 00:55:01,878
were running. He was pushing the double, and

1521
00:55:01,878 --> 00:55:04,295
she was pushing like, a little or baby

1522
00:55:04,435 --> 00:55:06,273
more in the bassinet style, which I'm like,

1523
00:55:06,353 --> 00:55:07,312
yeah. You're I'm supposed to run with that.

1524
00:55:07,552 --> 00:55:10,122
But... And I was, like, 3 kids. Parents

1525
00:55:10,122 --> 00:55:11,793
running. I'm like, that's some goals out there.

1526
00:55:12,032 --> 00:55:14,976
So yeah. We at 1 point got a

1527
00:55:14,976 --> 00:55:15,454
triple.

1528
00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:18,717
And... Because my oldest was 6.

1529
00:55:19,369 --> 00:55:21,847
When my youngest was born. She had just

1530
00:55:21,847 --> 00:55:24,005
turned 6, so he... I'm mean, like, my

1531
00:55:24,005 --> 00:55:25,922
6 year old now, My own... He's almost

1532
00:55:25,922 --> 00:55:27,521
6. I would never put him in a

1533
00:55:27,521 --> 00:55:30,013
stroll first stroller run. But at the time,

1534
00:55:31,771 --> 00:55:34,327
he was my oldest, and we couldn't leave

1535
00:55:34,327 --> 00:55:37,296
anybody home obviously. So we would... Glen would

1536
00:55:37,296 --> 00:55:38,806
pushed the triple, and I would push the

1537
00:55:38,806 --> 00:55:41,192
single, and we we did that for about

1538
00:55:41,192 --> 00:55:41,590
a year.

1539
00:55:42,782 --> 00:55:44,452
But, yeah, I I would say that the

1540
00:55:44,452 --> 00:55:45,588
double to the triple

1541
00:55:45,963 --> 00:55:46,463
was

1542
00:55:47,653 --> 00:55:48,053
similar.

1543
00:55:48,692 --> 00:55:50,530
The single to the doubles felt like a

1544
00:55:50,530 --> 00:55:51,169
bigger jump.

1545
00:55:51,728 --> 00:55:54,126
Yeah. That's... I'm... I love a single stroller

1546
00:55:54,126 --> 00:55:56,211
run, but nice that's the other thing. We

1547
00:55:56,211 --> 00:55:58,515
lived in Indian and it was flat pancake

1548
00:55:58,515 --> 00:56:00,739
flat. Now in Raleigh, I'm like,

1549
00:56:01,454 --> 00:56:02,646
I don't know what I would have done

1550
00:56:02,646 --> 00:56:04,155
for stroller runs. Like that would be so

1551
00:56:04,155 --> 00:56:06,879
hard. So Yeah. Where we are out here.

1552
00:56:07,995 --> 00:56:09,931
It's Hill. Yeah. Yeah. So.

1553
00:56:10,388 --> 00:56:13,020
Yeah. Yeah. It's and, also, like the downhill.

1554
00:56:13,180 --> 00:56:14,456
You don't wanna just, like, send it in,

1555
00:56:14,536 --> 00:56:17,491
like, risk anything. Gotta be careful. Yeah. Yeah.

1556
00:56:17,730 --> 00:56:20,510
See. Down running. That's scary, but... Yeah. You

1557
00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:22,655
can have done an entire hour on just

1558
00:56:22,655 --> 00:56:24,900
the mom talk, here. Oh, for sure. I

1559
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,052
know. Forget to... This is turned into your

1560
00:56:27,052 --> 00:56:28,407
mommy podcast now.

1561
00:56:29,443 --> 00:56:32,489
So you're working with David Roach? I am.

1562
00:56:33,048 --> 00:56:34,188
Okay. And so

1563
00:56:34,646 --> 00:56:36,804
you've kind of, like, Fur.

1564
00:56:37,603 --> 00:56:39,921
I know you're working with Kim Conley and

1565
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,480
Drew.

1566
00:56:41,134 --> 00:56:42,513
And now, David,

1567
00:56:43,611 --> 00:56:45,150
what is the, like, coaching

1568
00:56:45,609 --> 00:56:47,686
relationship been like for you with all your

1569
00:56:47,686 --> 00:56:48,326
different coaches?

1570
00:56:49,299 --> 00:56:52,755
I really value having, like, a strong personal

1571
00:56:52,815 --> 00:56:55,451
connection with the coach. I was so close

1572
00:56:55,451 --> 00:56:56,704
and so in sync with

1573
00:56:57,303 --> 00:56:58,580
coach Robert Gary,

1574
00:56:59,218 --> 00:57:01,293
and his wife, Frida and, like, you know,

1575
00:57:02,251 --> 00:57:04,166
we were just so in sync,

1576
00:57:04,819 --> 00:57:06,972
during my time with Fu Elite,

1577
00:57:08,408 --> 00:57:09,843
when I was with Kim and Drew, like,

1578
00:57:10,003 --> 00:57:11,199
it was just me and Kim. You know,

1579
00:57:11,358 --> 00:57:12,873
they had their bigger group at a certain

1580
00:57:12,873 --> 00:57:14,879
point, but it was just literally Me and

1581
00:57:14,958 --> 00:57:16,388
Cam. I lived down the street from them.

1582
00:57:16,785 --> 00:57:18,532
We would drive to practice together. You know,

1583
00:57:18,770 --> 00:57:19,882
I would to walk out the door and

1584
00:57:19,882 --> 00:57:20,358
run together.

1585
00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:24,508
I was really close with Kim ever since

1586
00:57:24,508 --> 00:57:26,425
she made, you know, 20 12 when she

1587
00:57:26,425 --> 00:57:27,224
made that first team.

1588
00:57:28,343 --> 00:57:29,461
So that was a great,

1589
00:57:30,994 --> 00:57:32,744
And then I went back to Robert to

1590
00:57:32,744 --> 00:57:35,209
try and see if I could kinda get

1591
00:57:35,209 --> 00:57:37,277
after this 20 20, 20 21.

1592
00:57:38,088 --> 00:57:41,677
Olympic trials and just things just again, injuries

1593
00:57:41,677 --> 00:57:43,830
just kind of help me back too much.

1594
00:57:44,388 --> 00:57:46,222
And so... But from there, I did quickly

1595
00:57:46,222 --> 00:57:46,860
shift to David,

1596
00:57:47,431 --> 00:57:49,810
I love him and his wife. They actually

1597
00:57:49,810 --> 00:57:52,665
had... Their their kiddo, the first kiddo is

1598
00:57:52,665 --> 00:57:54,410
just a few weeks younger than handling.

1599
00:57:55,139 --> 00:57:57,282
So we kinda went through that together. Oh,

1600
00:57:58,472 --> 00:58:00,059
and they're expecting a second.

1601
00:58:01,171 --> 00:58:02,361
I think that's another part of...

1602
00:58:03,014 --> 00:58:05,092
The challenges of being a mother runner is,

1603
00:58:05,252 --> 00:58:07,250
like, I do want... We do wanna expand

1604
00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:09,088
our family. Mh. Then there's a little part

1605
00:58:09,088 --> 00:58:10,606
of that where I'm like, well, we're in

1606
00:58:10,606 --> 00:58:11,965
our trying to conceive era.

1607
00:58:12,538 --> 00:58:12,697
Like,

1608
00:58:13,572 --> 00:58:14,844
how hard do I really wanna train?

1609
00:58:15,798 --> 00:58:17,627
And how... Like, do I wanna set a

1610
00:58:17,627 --> 00:58:19,774
race goal when I'm actually, like, really hoping

1611
00:58:19,774 --> 00:58:20,808
to have another kiddo?

1612
00:58:21,364 --> 00:58:22,103
And so

1613
00:58:22,733 --> 00:58:24,009
I hope I'm pregnant it in that month

1614
00:58:24,009 --> 00:58:25,764
and I can't run, you know. So so

1615
00:58:25,764 --> 00:58:28,715
that's So hard. Yeah. That's a challenge. So...

1616
00:58:29,193 --> 00:58:31,267
I was just, like, so resonating with that

1617
00:58:31,267 --> 00:58:31,746
because it's, like,

1618
00:58:32,478 --> 00:58:32,717
you...

1619
00:58:33,432 --> 00:58:34,626
It's like, you don't wanna put all your

1620
00:58:34,626 --> 00:58:36,614
eggs in that basket in case it doesn't

1621
00:58:36,614 --> 00:58:38,206
work out for some reason.

1622
00:58:39,001 --> 00:58:40,433
But then at the same time, you're like,

1623
00:58:40,512 --> 00:58:42,041
what if it is? Gonna happen. Like, I

1624
00:58:42,041 --> 00:58:44,355
don't wanna, like, go all out, and it's

1625
00:58:44,355 --> 00:58:44,514
like,

1626
00:58:45,232 --> 00:58:47,306
gosh. Like, you... That's 1 of those things

1627
00:58:47,306 --> 00:58:49,140
of family planning. Like, you can't go all

1628
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:50,916
in either way because you can't

1629
00:58:51,387 --> 00:58:54,885
assume anything's gonna happen either way. 100 percent.

1630
00:58:55,202 --> 00:58:56,418
It's so hard

1631
00:58:56,951 --> 00:58:57,746
emotionally too.

1632
00:58:58,461 --> 00:59:00,944
Exactly. And then, you know... Yeah. I mean,

1633
00:59:01,105 --> 00:59:02,704
again, this is this is the mom podcast

1634
00:59:02,704 --> 00:59:04,625
right here. This is that content, but but,

1635
00:59:04,704 --> 00:59:06,784
yeah, It is really emotional, and and I'm

1636
00:59:06,784 --> 00:59:08,464
trying to be very casual about this, like,

1637
00:59:08,625 --> 00:59:08,944
early...

1638
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:10,099
Taking

1639
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,239
phase of, like, we're just gonna go with

1640
00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:13,680
the flow. We're just gonna see what happens.

1641
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,840
I can stress later, you know, but let's

1642
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,519
just take a few months to just, like,

1643
00:59:17,854 --> 00:59:18,492
try have fun,

1644
00:59:19,289 --> 00:59:21,922
but it's hard to not care. Right? Or

1645
00:59:21,922 --> 00:59:24,315
not to be, like, emotionally invested in, like,

1646
00:59:24,793 --> 00:59:26,388
oh, what am I feeling? What is that?

1647
00:59:26,548 --> 00:59:27,639
Like, it's just

1648
00:59:28,237 --> 00:59:28,396
So...

1649
00:59:29,512 --> 00:59:31,744
Yeah. So that makes a different... Another challenge

1650
00:59:31,744 --> 00:59:34,453
for for training and for motivation and for,

1651
00:59:34,612 --> 00:59:35,011
you know,

1652
00:59:35,663 --> 00:59:38,307
getting after it. I think that that's just

1653
00:59:39,078 --> 00:59:41,643
another thing there is just, like, that's why

1654
00:59:42,096 --> 00:59:44,003
this is, like, woo woo whatever, but, like,

1655
00:59:44,241 --> 00:59:44,741
just

1656
00:59:45,369 --> 00:59:47,047
we always hear people talk about, like, being

1657
00:59:47,047 --> 00:59:47,367
present,

1658
00:59:47,927 --> 00:59:49,925
and that's why, like, at this phase, like,

1659
00:59:50,564 --> 00:59:52,242
instead of being, like, I wanna do this

1660
00:59:52,242 --> 00:59:53,761
in 6 months, I wanna do this. And

1661
00:59:53,761 --> 00:59:54,880
1 year I wanna do this. It's, like,

1662
00:59:55,454 --> 00:59:56,413
what's happening today?

1663
00:59:57,452 --> 00:59:58,969
How do I feel today about this? Do

1664
00:59:59,050 --> 01:00:01,127
I wanna work really hard today? You know?

1665
01:00:02,326 --> 01:00:04,915
Lindsay, that is the my... That is my

1666
01:00:04,973 --> 01:00:07,524
challenge. I always have the 5 year plan.

1667
01:00:08,002 --> 01:00:10,473
The 4 year cycle. Right? The, like, olympic

1668
01:00:10,473 --> 01:00:12,161
cycle we're gonna do this race and this

1669
01:00:12,161 --> 01:00:14,469
race, we're gonna focus on this event, and

1670
01:00:14,469 --> 01:00:16,402
then we're gonna get back and qualify

1671
01:00:16,937 --> 01:00:18,688
and make the team. You know, Like, that

1672
01:00:18,688 --> 01:00:21,010
just is how this my brain works as

1673
01:00:21,010 --> 01:00:24,029
a track person. And so it's so hard,

1674
01:00:24,109 --> 01:00:25,244
you know, to

1675
01:00:25,698 --> 01:00:28,260
let go. But That's what so much of

1676
01:00:28,260 --> 01:00:32,005
parenting and life is. So... Yeah. So much

1677
01:00:32,005 --> 01:00:32,244
unknown.

1678
01:00:32,882 --> 01:00:35,127
Okay. We have to wrap up here. What

1679
01:00:35,127 --> 01:00:37,429
is something professionally or personally that you have

1680
01:00:37,429 --> 01:00:39,254
not done that you would like to do?

1681
01:00:39,969 --> 01:00:41,239
Yeah. I think it'd be the ultra.

1682
01:00:41,715 --> 01:00:42,215
So

1683
01:00:42,667 --> 01:00:45,468
Yes. Love that. 50 k on the horizon.

1684
01:00:46,106 --> 01:00:48,019
We don't know when, but it'll happen. It

1685
01:00:48,019 --> 01:00:48,497
will happen.

1686
01:00:49,773 --> 01:00:51,367
What's the best most recent book you've read?

1687
01:00:52,579 --> 01:00:54,420
Lindsay see. I really just read, like, parenting

1688
01:00:54,420 --> 01:00:56,260
books right now. Has a potty training book.

1689
01:00:57,380 --> 01:00:57,699
I...

1690
01:00:58,980 --> 01:01:00,900
Have you read any good ones? Any good

1691
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:01,460
parenting books?

1692
01:01:03,072 --> 01:01:04,191
I I liked a lot of the, like,

1693
01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:06,907
montessori, taller, montessori baby.

1694
01:01:07,546 --> 01:01:09,957
Again, marine the o crop. Potty training book.

1695
01:01:11,634 --> 01:01:11,953
And

1696
01:01:12,512 --> 01:01:14,588
yeah. Thinking about it. Like, I do have

1697
01:01:14,588 --> 01:01:17,063
a fiction book that demon copper head that

1698
01:01:17,222 --> 01:01:20,426
I was like, So good. Yeah. It's it.

1699
01:01:20,824 --> 01:01:23,293
I know. I've, like, I've started it. It's

1700
01:01:23,293 --> 01:01:25,045
intense. It's... I mean, it's hard. Yeah. I

1701
01:01:25,045 --> 01:01:27,275
mean, it's it's sad, but it's really good.

1702
01:01:27,848 --> 01:01:30,161
Yes. So, anyway, lots of, you know, I

1703
01:01:30,161 --> 01:01:32,554
read curious George with my kiddo. We're in

1704
01:01:32,554 --> 01:01:35,186
a deep curious George face. So, all all

1705
01:01:35,186 --> 01:01:37,911
kinds of recommendations there for anyone in any

1706
01:01:37,911 --> 01:01:38,389
stage of life.

1707
01:01:39,661 --> 01:01:41,014
Do you have a nonprofit you like to

1708
01:01:41,014 --> 01:01:43,480
support? Love girls in the run. Love love

1709
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,116
love it

1710
01:01:44,673 --> 01:01:47,473
and have, like, ever since my early days

1711
01:01:47,473 --> 01:01:48,268
of being a pro,

1712
01:01:48,985 --> 01:01:50,975
and it's just great because there's always gonna

1713
01:01:50,975 --> 01:01:52,010
be 1 in your region,

1714
01:01:52,806 --> 01:01:54,636
they do amazing things. And, like, that is

1715
01:01:54,636 --> 01:01:56,958
what we're all about is, like, elevating women

1716
01:01:56,958 --> 01:01:58,546
in sport. It starts as being a as

1717
01:01:58,546 --> 01:02:00,556
being a kiddo and and being

1718
01:02:01,247 --> 01:02:03,313
introduced to it and exposed to it and

1719
01:02:03,313 --> 01:02:04,186
seeing strong,

1720
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:06,354
women seeing your mom out there.

1721
01:02:07,151 --> 01:02:08,109
I'm all about that.

1722
01:02:09,146 --> 01:02:10,900
Yeah. And I'll just add 1 note to

1723
01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:11,139
that.

1724
01:02:12,416 --> 01:02:14,250
I've been talking about a lot about youth

1725
01:02:14,250 --> 01:02:15,799
sports a lot, and

1726
01:02:16,968 --> 01:02:19,454
the youth sport culture is so

1727
01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:22,792
crazy. It's so expensive. It's so exhausting.

1728
01:02:23,405 --> 01:02:25,118
A and people go crazy

1729
01:02:25,577 --> 01:02:27,654
because they want their kids to make like

1730
01:02:27,654 --> 01:02:28,453
high school teams.

1731
01:02:29,332 --> 01:02:31,190
Like, literally, they'll do

1732
01:02:31,744 --> 01:02:33,898
so much travel soccer, All these travel sports,

1733
01:02:34,138 --> 01:02:34,697
very expensive,

1734
01:02:35,255 --> 01:02:36,851
and then their kid doesn't make the team,

1735
01:02:38,048 --> 01:02:39,900
and they give up on sports. And that

1736
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,339
makes me so sad, and I think with

1737
01:02:41,339 --> 01:02:42,699
a program like girls on the run,

1738
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:45,500
it has nothing to do with making any

1739
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:47,514
teams. It has nothing to do with what

1740
01:02:47,514 --> 01:02:50,247
kind of star player you'll be. It's about

1741
01:02:50,385 --> 01:02:50,704
instill,

1742
01:02:51,661 --> 01:02:52,777
the love of movement,

1743
01:02:53,495 --> 01:02:55,728
the love of friendship and teamwork and all

1744
01:02:55,728 --> 01:02:57,897
the things that like, we want for a

1745
01:02:57,897 --> 01:02:58,397
life

1746
01:02:58,774 --> 01:03:02,044
lifetime. So, yeah, I'm, like, more passionate about

1747
01:03:02,044 --> 01:03:05,155
that than ever in this age of, like,

1748
01:03:05,474 --> 01:03:06,431
crazy youth sports.

1749
01:03:07,322 --> 01:03:07,481
Yeah.

1750
01:03:08,433 --> 01:03:10,655
Absolutely, all for it. I just felt like

1751
01:03:10,735 --> 01:03:13,036
I had to, like. Let's do it. Rate

1752
01:03:13,036 --> 01:03:14,068
rage on that a little bit.

1753
01:03:15,197 --> 01:03:17,271
Last message to leave with the audience. Yeah.

1754
01:03:17,909 --> 01:03:20,620
I do affirmations with my toddler, and it

1755
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:23,172
is the sweetest thing to hear him because

1756
01:03:23,172 --> 01:03:24,938
now there's one's. And the 2 that are

1757
01:03:24,938 --> 01:03:26,447
stuck in his head the most that he

1758
01:03:26,447 --> 01:03:29,250
always will start yelling out at bedtime are

1759
01:03:29,544 --> 01:03:32,268
I am worthy and I have purpose. And

1760
01:03:32,483 --> 01:03:34,726
it kind of, like, ties bow on everything

1761
01:03:34,726 --> 01:03:36,401
we've been talking about here of, like,

1762
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,852
you're valid. Your feelings are valid. Your experiences

1763
01:03:39,911 --> 01:03:41,825
are. Like, you don't have to be in

1764
01:03:42,064 --> 01:03:43,420
Olympia to be worthy.

1765
01:03:43,914 --> 01:03:45,907
You don't have to be, you know, the

1766
01:03:45,907 --> 01:03:46,885
star Cpa

1767
01:03:47,262 --> 01:03:49,814
to have a purpose. Like, it can be

1768
01:03:49,814 --> 01:03:51,807
whatever you it it can be whatever it

1769
01:03:51,807 --> 01:03:53,658
needs to be. So You're worthy and you

1770
01:03:53,658 --> 01:03:56,055
of purpose. I think if everyone truly felt

1771
01:03:56,055 --> 01:03:57,094
that deep in their soul.

1772
01:03:58,452 --> 01:03:59,570
We'd be in a little bit of a

1773
01:03:59,570 --> 01:04:03,325
different world. You are an everyday hero. I

1774
01:04:03,325 --> 01:04:05,790
love that. Thank you, Steph. Thank you, Lindsay

1775
01:04:05,949 --> 01:04:07,221
I'm so thrilled to be on with you,

1776
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:09,710
and it's This has been so much fun.

1777
01:04:09,949 --> 01:04:11,150
I'm ready to be on the mom's side

1778
01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:12,670
of the podcast. Let's do that 1 next.

1779
01:04:14,190 --> 01:04:16,030
Alright, friends. Thanks so much for being here

1780
01:04:16,030 --> 01:04:18,195
today. Thanks Steph for coming on the podcast.

1781
01:04:18,911 --> 01:04:22,095
Excited to follow your story as it unfolds,

1782
01:04:22,572 --> 01:04:23,925
loved hearing your perspective.

1783
01:04:24,417 --> 01:04:26,480
Post retirement from The S Chase.

1784
01:04:27,194 --> 01:04:29,337
You all can find stuff on Instagram She

1785
01:04:29,337 --> 01:04:32,132
stuff underscore staples over there, You can find

1786
01:04:32,132 --> 01:04:33,965
me. I'm Lindsay Hines 626.

1787
01:04:34,841 --> 01:04:36,275
Thanks for being here, and we'll see you

1788
01:04:36,275 --> 01:04:37,710
next week and I'll have another.