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This is a Sandy Boy productions podcast.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to all have another podcast

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with Lindsay He.

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I'm your host, Lindsay. Thanks so much for

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being here today. Hope you've had a great

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fourth of July,

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speaking of fourth of July, Kendall, Ellis and

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recorded this episode of the podcast yesterday

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on the fourth of July.

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Kendall is another 1 of our Olympia for

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team Usa headed to Paris.

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She won the 400

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in the track field trials

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last week, and it was so exciting to

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see her come in first place with such

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a strong finish.

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Kendall was first on this show in May

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of 20 22.

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Episode 3 85 if you wanna go back

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and

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learn a little bit more about her history

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in the sport.

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She is an Olympic gold medal.

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In the 4 by 4 relay and an

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Olympic bronze medal

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in the mixed 4 by 4 relay. She

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also has a gold medal in the 4

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by 4 at the 20 19 and 20

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17 world championships

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where she competed as an individual as well.

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In 20 21,

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She barely missed making it as an individual

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in the 400

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for the Olympics, placing in that fourth place

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spot. This time around comes back and wins

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the whole thing, getting a national title

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and running a personal record of 49.46,

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her second P r

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of the week, but

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that P she ran in the semi finals

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at the trials was her first P r

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in 6 years.

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So we talk about what those last 6

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years looked like and how there were so

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many wins in those 6 years that she

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really wasn't even focused on the

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time on that personal record. But dang if

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it didn't happen at just the right time.

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Kindle ran for the university of Southern California

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where she was a 3 time Nc double

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champion, And I would say she is 1

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to be watching

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to

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possibly

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win a medal at the 20 24

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Paris of Olympics. It's an honor and a

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joy to talk to Kendall

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and to watch her compete and cheer for

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her, and I hope you'll all do the

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same. If you aren't already following her on

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Instagram, you can find her she's ken underscore

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kendall over there. If you're enjoying this podcast,

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and the additional episodes we're putting out this

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week and next leading up to the Olympics

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in Paris.

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my conversation with Kendall Ellis.

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Hey everybody. So excited to bring you this

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conversation with Olympia, Kendall Ellis. Welcome back to

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the show Kendall. Thanks for having me again.

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Yes. I'm so excited so it's been 2

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years. I looked back. It was 20... Summer

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of 20 22 when we first talked. And

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I am so excited to have you back

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on your probably feeling all kinds of emotions

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right now making the second Olympic team. Yeah.

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What a difference from summer 22 to now.

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looked so strong.

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You looked so incredible out there. Like,

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I knew when you were coming around that

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turn. I was, like, listening to the announcer

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And I was like, why aren't they talking

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about Kendall yet? She's like, right... She's, like,

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coming up? Like, I see her, why are

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they not talking about her yet and then

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Sonya comes on? It's like, look at Kendall

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ellis on the right?

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You know, they rarely talk about me until

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I win. So

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And I went by a lot.

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Yeah. It was a good. It was a

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good race. I felt. I felt really good.

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I felt really strong and I didn't exactly

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know I positioned being out there in Lane

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8, but

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washing the race back. I was like, oh,

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I didn't feel

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not that I didn't give a hundred percent,

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but I didn't feel like I was completely

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depleted. Like, I felt like could do it

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again. I felt like I could do something

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faster. So I'm glad to have that experience

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it. And I think my fastest races.

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don't feel spent and, like, there's something else

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in the tank. So excited to tap into

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that. Yeah. I was gonna say that's exciting

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for Paris.

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Yeah. Tell us about the the lane assignment

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and, like, what that feels like because I'm

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not super familiar with racing the 400. So,

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like, where do you wanna be?

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Ideally and typically the preferred lanes are, like,

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5 and 6. Okay. I'm not really sure

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why this meat was so different, but they

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said that the preferred lanes were

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going to be, I think

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7 and 8.

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I don't I don't know why. I don't

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know how that works, but in every other

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track that I've been on, like, the preferred

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lanes are 5 and 6. Sometimes 7 if

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it's, like,

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bigger track or

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additional lanes. But, yeah. I mean, I wasn't

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too upset about it because I've been running

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in, like, the outer lanes all season long.

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It wasn't anything that, like, really threw me

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off as far as I was concerned. If

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I'm in the outer lane, let me just

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get out. And as long as I don't

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see anyone that I must be in good

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position. So kinda just focusing on, like,

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I get to run this race

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not on anyone else's terms. I'm all the

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way out here, so I just get to

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run at how I wanna run, and I

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think that played out to my advantage at

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the end of the day.

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The 400 is so challenging. Like it. I

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feel like there's so much calculation there because

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it is a sprint, but it's also distance,

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and so how did you even decide... How

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do we even decide going into that final

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like, how am I taking this race out?

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known to take it out fast? And whatnot?

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What... How... What's your game plan?

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a similar race pattern for every every single

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race. We don't adjust it too too much,

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but there are times where we're look at.

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Who's in their race? What lane I'm in,

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and we know personnel. We're like, okay, We

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know this person likes to run a really

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hard first hundred. And it's, like, don't panic

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over that. It doesn't you to go with

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them, but it is something to be aware

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of and just know you're positioning.

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just getting into, like, the nitty gritty of

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who's in the race? I've been running for

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so long at this point. You kinda know

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everyone on the circuit at this point. You've

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seen them race multiple times. And so

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going off of that, also playing to my

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strengths. Knowing that I'm a strong finish. So

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it's like, okay, You can

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you can go out a little faster with

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them because we know that your endurance and

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your stamina is gonna allow you to finish

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better than most people are able to. So

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really just doing the research, knowing who's in

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the race, knowing what they're

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historically what they've done and then tapping into

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my strengths as well.

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Now I've heard you talk a lot about

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also the, like,

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like, focusing on what you can do and

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focusing on, like, what your training is and

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what you're doing like listening to all the

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noise, But like you were just saying you

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kinda have to do the research a little

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bit and pay attention so you know what

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to do. How do you balance that?

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A lot of times, I coach Watson I

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have had this conversation. We worked together for

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what

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10 years at this point, if we count

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college. So We have a very good understanding

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of each other in the way I like

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to work and the way he likes to

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work and we've come to an agreement of

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being like, okay. I don't like to look

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at who's in my heat beforehand. It

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caused me a lot of stress. I'd rather

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not know. But so I'll send it the

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link to him to look at the heat

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sheet and, like, I'm like, it's something I

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need to know. Like, tell me what lane

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I'm in. If there's something I need to

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be aware of. He'll let me know. If

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not, he's like, you're good. Do this, Brat.

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So kinda just having a nice balance of

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a coach who understands his athletes and no

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no knowing how they operate and adjusting to

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that. So that's kind of the the balance

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that we've

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agreed upon, and then, you know, I end

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up saying who's in my heat when I

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go to check in any anyway. So it's

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not a complete shock or anything. But

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I don't need to know any earlier than

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right before I get out to the onto

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the track ultimately. Oh, that's so interesting. I

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don't know how... I would be so attempted.

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Would be so tempted to look. I wonder

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how many other people are able to just

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not look.

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It's taken a lot.

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Of discipline over the years. I think,

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you know, people say, like, a glut for

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pain. So there were times our wood, like,

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in high school. I would go through who's

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in the heat. I would look up their

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past race. I would look up their P,

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and it just became so

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consuming. That, like, I was spending way too

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much time and energy and effort in what

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everyone else in the heat was doing instead

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of being like, okay, what, what am I

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gonna do? And so now I think I've

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just matured and grown enough to be like,

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I'm gonna know what I need to know

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and everything else is just extra information that

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is really none of my business.

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Gosh. We should all take that advice. That's

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a good size. Good life advice right there.

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Now you in 20 21 had that, like,

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fourth place finish, which is, like the dreaded

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finish.

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And a lot of people

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listening or a lot of athletes that I've

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interviewed have been there before, and there's a

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lot of people right now who are sitting

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in that space.

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Who are like, I was right there.

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And now you've come back and not only

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made the team, but 1

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and got your national title,

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What is your message to someone who's finishing

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in that fourth place spot right now?

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Yeah. I don't want to say

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hold on to that feeling for the next

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4 years and, like, use it to fuel

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you because I just

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seems really draining.

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But I think

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for me, it was kind of... I remember

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that moment. I was so

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heartbroken. And

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I don't think I took it as

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I didn't do enough or I didn't do

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everything I could of, or I should've have

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done this and that it was like, this

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just isn't my time. This isn't for me.

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And you know, that was the year that

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was Allison Felix last

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Olympics. And so I also kinda look at

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it as... This was this was her time.

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This was her moment. This was

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It's okay that it didn't happen for me.

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I'm disappointed and I'm sad, and I wish

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I would have gone in those top 3

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positions, but

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Maybe it just wasn't it wasn't my time.

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That wasn't my year. And

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remembering those feelings of like, how devastated and

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sad I was. And recognizing, like, okay. I

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don't wanna if you like that again. And

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so

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it's a it's a fine belt. I don't

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wanna myself and say, like, now I'm gonna

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do everything I can to never experience that

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again because you just don't know. But I

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think approaching each year as This is a

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new year. This is a new moment.

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Maybe this is my time and kinda just

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operating from that, not not holding on to

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this

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4 year long feeling of of grief for

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sadness, but being able to move through each

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year.

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Okay. Let me let me see if it's

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my time now and

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And just taking the little wins, I think

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along the way, You know, there's there's 4

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years between each Olympic gains and world every

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other year, but really honing in on

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those wins at practice, those wins at other

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competitions and and finding other

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joyous moments in the sport. That don't make

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the super big moment

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feel like the only moment.

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When I hear you talk and when when

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I think about making these teams, you know,

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worlds or Olympics, it's just like in life,

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there's uncertainty. Right? And when you line up

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in the start line of a race, there's

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uncertainty, even if you're like, I am in

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the best shape of my life.

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Yeah. You just don't know what's gonna happen.

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And so

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talk to us a little bit about, like,

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the mental training. Like, how have you been

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able to

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be strong mentally.

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When this time around, you're like, I don't

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want that fourth place spot again. I think

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part of that.

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It's it's just so similar to what I've...

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I've been saying, like you said there's so

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much uncertainty,

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and I can't control

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anyone else in the is gonna do. I

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can solely only control what I'm going to

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do. So it's my job to give myself

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the best chance to place top 3. It's

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my job to

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follow the race pattern that I trust that

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my coaches has given me the best I

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can. If he said go out in this

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time, then it's my job to try to

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do that. And the cards are gonna fall

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where they may fall, and that's something I

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have to

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accept the result or accept the potential result

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before it even happens because

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I can only control what I can control

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and I can only do whatever it is

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that I can do. So

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I think just

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controlling the controllable at the end of the

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day and and giving yourself at least that

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fighting chance. I think when I get to

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the line

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in the past there have been times when

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I've beaten myself

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hours, days before the race has even started

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because I just... Haven't even given myself a

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fighting chance. I decided the race was over

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before it even started. And I think at

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trials, a lot of it was me being,

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like,

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I

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I told myself a few times before the

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race. Why not me? Somebody has to win.

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Why why can't I be the 1 to

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win? And so giving myself at least of

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a chance to be in the fight and

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whoever wins the fight. We don't know, but

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I'm gonna make sure I'm at least in

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there.

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So when you finish the race, you like,

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kinda, like, sat there for a second. I

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was like, I was, like staring at your

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expression. I was like, what is she thinking

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right now? Because you were clearly, like, very

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out of breath. Then you kinda laid down

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on the ground, and then

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you smiled. And I was like, why isn't

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she, like freaking out right now? What was

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going on in your brain as you process

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this?

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1, they weren't putting up the times, like

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in a place the athlete could see them,

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And so I was kinda just listening first

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to the announcer. Like, I think I won,

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but, like, what was the time? Like, I

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don't... So it's a little bit of confusion

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just kinda sitting there and waiting to, like,

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see a time or here a time or,

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like,

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they also didn't have, like, the

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the the ribbon or whatever ever for you

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to, like, run through. And so I was

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expecting that too. And I was like, hey,

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I didn't get to run through like, the

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tape line I'm thinking you. They forget it?

404
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Why didn't they have that?

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I don't know if some had it and

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some didn't And so I don't know what.

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I was really looking for to doing that,

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but

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didn't happen so partial confuse confusion, and then

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when I did hear this time.

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It was just

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relief and peace because, like I said I

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had accepted the results before the race even

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happened in terms of it's gonna be whatever

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it's gonna be. And so I think to

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actually win and then to hear APR again

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on top of just P yesterday, It was

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like,

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we can take a deep breath now. Like,

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we have accomplished

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the goal for now,

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and

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Now I can breathe easy. So I as

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happy and excited as I was, I don't

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think it really resonated with me because it

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was, like,

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wow you've been waiting for this moment for

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so long and you've been trying to P

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for so long. And

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now it's now it's all happening, like at

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once. So kinda just... Kinda it this overwhelmed

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and and soaking it all in?

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Yes. 6 years.

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6 years for that P.

435
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And that's a long time.

436
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How do you... How were you patient through

437
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all that time? And

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then, you know, like, you know what workouts

439
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you're doing. You know what you're

440
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Probably capable of, but to wait for it

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to happen and for it to happen,

442
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at the most perfect time.

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Right.

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I think for me, it was...

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1 seeing what was happening in practice didn't...

446
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I think for some people might discourage them

447
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because it's like, I'm running these fast times

448
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that practice. Like, why is it not translating

449
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in But for me, it was like, okay,

450
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It's in there. Like, I know this isn't

451
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some pipe dream of me. Like, I hope

452
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I run this time 1 day. It's like,

453
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it's it's there. When it's gonna show up,

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I don't know, but I'm glad, like, I

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know that it's in my tank. And then

456
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throughout these 6 years,

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I've had so many other wins.

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And so I think that was also really

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encouraging because

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I went professional in 20 18, and then

461
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I made the 20 19 world team. I

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made the Olympic team in 20 21. I

463
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made the world team in 20 22. I

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made the world relay team This year. So

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there were so many other wins and successes

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within these 6 years that kept me going

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because it's like, okay, I don't necessarily have

468
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to P r in order to make these

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teams. I don't necessarily have to p art

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to win the race. And I think in

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professional track and field,

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I could be wrong, but

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I don't think P r's come as often

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as they do

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in c track field. And so also understanding

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that being like, professionals aren't P every other

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week. That's not common. That may happen in

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college, but that's not necessarily the case as

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a professional. I was, like,

480
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I'm not

481
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an extreme

482
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anomaly or something. Like, this is this is

483
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kind of okay. But in the back of

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my mind, every season I go into, like,

485
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Man, I hope this is the season Ip.

486
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Like, I really hope this is this is

487
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the time that Ip. And so

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just

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Like I said, a lot of wins along

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the way that that made the weight.

491
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Okay. That made the weight not as unbearable

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as you would think it would be without

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P because it wasn't

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quite necessary

495
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at at the time. And

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Maybe I just wasn't ready ready to P

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r, just yet. Maybe I wasn't

498
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in a place to handle running 49

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twice or consistently and now I'm finally in

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that place. So I'm just... I'm really glad

501
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that it came when it did, and then

502
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for it to come back to back was

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something I didn't expect to at all for

504
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sure not, and that was really exciting for

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me to, like, do it once. People are

506
00:18:20,179 --> 00:18:22,265
like, oh, okay. Like, It could be a

507
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fluke, like whatever. But then I backed up

508
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again the next day and did it even

509
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better and faster and it's like, oh, 0

510
00:18:28,505 --> 00:18:29,065
this is for real.

511
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Yeah. How do you prepare for that, like,

512
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when you run that huge p in the

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semi finals? And then you're like, okay,

514
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I know I can do it now. I

515
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have to do it again. And I know

516
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there's, like, such a balance with you all,

517
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like,

518
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pacing your your rounds and making sure you

519
00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:45,767
don't like,

520
00:18:46,579 --> 00:18:48,577
put it all out there before the final.

521
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So how did you manage that?

522
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I even think about it. It truly didn't

523
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even cross my mind. They're looking back.

524
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I think I I know the way we

525
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train with Coach Watts, and we are set

526
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up to get better round by round. Mh.

527
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So for me, it wasn't necessarily a concern

528
00:19:04,636 --> 00:19:05,195
to being, like,

529
00:19:06,009 --> 00:19:07,929
I saw, you know, some comments and I

530
00:19:07,929 --> 00:19:10,409
hate looking at comments anyways, but they're gonna

531
00:19:10,409 --> 00:19:12,009
come across you at some point and people

532
00:19:12,009 --> 00:19:13,944
are like, Oh, I don't know. Like, I

533
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don't know if she can do it again

534
00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:16,105
tomorrow. I don't know if she can go

535
00:19:16,105 --> 00:19:17,944
faster just as fast, and I'm like,

536
00:19:18,744 --> 00:19:20,424
well, I know I can. Like, yeah. And

537
00:19:20,585 --> 00:19:22,200
I it wasn't my goal to run a

538
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,640
certain time. I was just there to win.

539
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,039
And so whatever time came with the win,

540
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,119
then that's the time that I was gonna

541
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,500
run. And so

542
00:19:29,893 --> 00:19:32,599
I approach the race as just trying to

543
00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:34,031
win. And I knew what I did yesterday.

544
00:19:34,191 --> 00:19:35,305
I was like I got out a lot

545
00:19:35,305 --> 00:19:37,294
harder than I, like, have in the past.

546
00:19:37,533 --> 00:19:38,590
And so I just

547
00:19:39,458 --> 00:19:41,051
did what I felt like I needed to

548
00:19:41,051 --> 00:19:42,644
do to win the race. I set it

549
00:19:42,644 --> 00:19:45,431
up that way and didn't bother looking at

550
00:19:45,431 --> 00:19:47,842
a time didn't bother considering a time. So

551
00:19:48,232 --> 00:19:49,106
it didn't even...

552
00:19:49,583 --> 00:19:51,014
That's why when I finished, and I was

553
00:19:51,014 --> 00:19:54,034
just waiting for so long to hear what

554
00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:56,037
the time was because it was just curiosity.

555
00:19:56,276 --> 00:19:57,312
I was like, oh, did I do, like,

556
00:19:57,551 --> 00:19:59,940
what I did yesterday or was this a

557
00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:01,772
50 point raise? Like, I don't know. I

558
00:20:01,772 --> 00:20:04,025
don't really care. I'm glad I won, but

559
00:20:05,053 --> 00:20:07,521
I didn't let the previous day get in

560
00:20:07,521 --> 00:20:09,114
my head about, oh, I have to do

561
00:20:09,114 --> 00:20:10,467
this again, and I have to replicate it,

562
00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:12,378
or I was just there to win the

563
00:20:12,378 --> 00:20:12,617
race.

564
00:20:13,348 --> 00:20:14,777
Man, you were pumping those arms.

565
00:20:15,491 --> 00:20:16,840
And if you were going.

566
00:20:17,316 --> 00:20:19,300
I was like, there is nothing. Those arms

567
00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:21,697
if those arms are working with those legs.

568
00:20:21,856 --> 00:20:23,285
I mean, Know in the spreads, like, you

569
00:20:23,285 --> 00:20:24,714
didn't use your arm so much anyway, but

570
00:20:24,794 --> 00:20:26,700
I felt like you were all in there,

571
00:20:26,858 --> 00:20:29,177
and that was strong. Yeah. It's that has

572
00:20:29,177 --> 00:20:31,244
been drilled in at practice. If you come

573
00:20:31,244 --> 00:20:33,788
to a workout, there's an assistant coach there

574
00:20:33,788 --> 00:20:36,252
and he is constantly saying arms, arms, arms,

575
00:20:36,490 --> 00:20:38,214
arms because I have a tendency to kinda

576
00:20:38,414 --> 00:20:40,332
celine, side to side. U. And he was,

577
00:20:40,412 --> 00:20:42,649
like, to get down that last hundred, you

578
00:20:42,649 --> 00:20:44,967
need to pump them. So Yeah. I'm glad

579
00:20:45,127 --> 00:20:46,325
I did it. It worked.

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Alright. Back to the show.

613
00:22:02,399 --> 00:22:04,395
I noticed and I listened back to the

614
00:22:04,395 --> 00:22:06,151
to the race and watched it again, and

615
00:22:06,231 --> 00:22:08,325
I noticed that Sonya Richards R ross is

616
00:22:08,325 --> 00:22:10,804
like, this is a wide open 400, more

617
00:22:10,804 --> 00:22:12,565
wide open than it's really ever been, and

618
00:22:12,565 --> 00:22:13,784
she said there were 4

619
00:22:14,085 --> 00:22:16,244
women who could potentially win this race.

620
00:22:16,819 --> 00:22:18,653
And I didn't know which 4 women she

621
00:22:18,653 --> 00:22:20,488
was talking about, but is that... Did you

622
00:22:20,488 --> 00:22:21,924
have that thought in your mind at all?

623
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,418
I knew that it would be

624
00:22:25,593 --> 00:22:26,093
an

625
00:22:26,724 --> 00:22:29,516
fairly open race. I wanna give credit where

626
00:22:29,516 --> 00:22:31,292
credit is due because there were

627
00:22:31,908 --> 00:22:34,301
incredible women in that race and con... Including

628
00:22:34,301 --> 00:22:36,077
the college women who had

629
00:22:36,548 --> 00:22:38,003
been grinding 49

630
00:22:38,617 --> 00:22:41,321
all season long. It absolutely killed it at

631
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,196
Nc double,

632
00:22:42,674 --> 00:22:44,583
but also as a professional,

633
00:22:45,474 --> 00:22:46,830
I know that it's a different...

634
00:22:47,787 --> 00:22:49,541
It's a different sort of meat when the

635
00:22:49,541 --> 00:22:51,477
professional athletes are in it. Like, we have

636
00:22:51,535 --> 00:22:53,529
contracts on the line. We have health insurance

637
00:22:53,529 --> 00:22:54,986
on the line. Like, this is

638
00:22:55,618 --> 00:22:58,409
no longer for fun or, like, play playtime.

639
00:22:58,568 --> 00:23:00,960
Like, it doesn't matter what a professional athlete

640
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,192
season looks like. When it comes to trials,

641
00:23:04,242 --> 00:23:06,013
something shifts. There's a different

642
00:23:06,466 --> 00:23:08,293
gear shift mind shift that, like,

643
00:23:09,564 --> 00:23:11,311
I'm here to make this team, and you

644
00:23:11,311 --> 00:23:13,138
guys are not gonna take my contract from

645
00:23:13,138 --> 00:23:14,606
me. And so

646
00:23:15,218 --> 00:23:16,966
I knew that they were talented women in

647
00:23:16,966 --> 00:23:18,181
the race, but

648
00:23:19,667 --> 00:23:20,564
I I

649
00:23:20,874 --> 00:23:22,572
felt like I was 1 of the talented

650
00:23:22,631 --> 00:23:24,946
amongst them as well. And so it was

651
00:23:24,946 --> 00:23:25,106
like,

652
00:23:25,824 --> 00:23:28,060
it wasn't a matter of of approaching the

653
00:23:28,060 --> 00:23:29,337
race like, oh, I have to beat so

654
00:23:29,337 --> 00:23:30,056
and so or, like,

655
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:32,787
I can get third going off of of

656
00:23:32,787 --> 00:23:34,625
this time or like, this result. It was

657
00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:34,785
like,

658
00:23:35,504 --> 00:23:37,022
no. You guys have to compete against me

659
00:23:37,022 --> 00:23:39,100
too. Like, the same way I'm competing against

660
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:41,027
you. I am all also a competitor and

661
00:23:41,027 --> 00:23:43,173
you have to compete about me. Keep compete

662
00:23:43,173 --> 00:23:45,875
against me. And so, yeah. It was it

663
00:23:45,875 --> 00:23:47,862
was fairly open because I think the 400

664
00:23:47,862 --> 00:23:49,625
and, at least in the Us this time

665
00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:50,340
doesn't have, like,

666
00:23:51,453 --> 00:23:53,121
a reigning front woman.

667
00:23:54,154 --> 00:23:56,194
You know, Sydney has has run it at

668
00:23:56,394 --> 00:23:59,274
and has ran incredibly so, but decided to

669
00:23:59,274 --> 00:24:00,714
focus on the hurdles, and so I think

670
00:24:00,714 --> 00:24:03,534
that kinda left the 400 pretty pretty open

671
00:24:03,595 --> 00:24:05,034
for for anyone to step up.

672
00:24:05,848 --> 00:24:08,400
Wow. You that's crazy the the c women

673
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,256
were running 40 nines. I,

674
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:12,626
okay. Talk to me about that a little

675
00:24:12,626 --> 00:24:15,035
bit though. You graduated in 20 18. That

676
00:24:15,035 --> 00:24:17,515
when you me in? Okay. Yes. Because so

677
00:24:17,515 --> 00:24:19,595
was that before super spikes? Like, did... Were

678
00:24:19,595 --> 00:24:20,954
you running a different season then?

679
00:24:22,089 --> 00:24:24,727
Yeah. I wasn't in the era of super

680
00:24:24,727 --> 00:24:25,686
fight because that's so funny.

681
00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:28,323
So is that... I mean, is that... Would

682
00:24:28,323 --> 00:24:30,001
you think that's 1 of the reasons the

683
00:24:30,001 --> 00:24:32,254
c are running so much faster than they

684
00:24:32,254 --> 00:24:32,653
used to.

685
00:24:33,612 --> 00:24:34,272
I think

686
00:24:34,731 --> 00:24:35,950
so much is changing

687
00:24:36,409 --> 00:24:38,326
in track and field as a whole and

688
00:24:38,326 --> 00:24:39,705
just athletes are getting

689
00:24:40,098 --> 00:24:42,330
faster, better, stronger. I think, partially,

690
00:24:42,968 --> 00:24:45,360
the equipment they have now, like, we didn't...

691
00:24:46,077 --> 00:24:48,883
I remember growing up an Aa asu wearing

692
00:24:48,883 --> 00:24:50,879
like, hand down spikes and spikes I found,

693
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,795
like, Marshall and Ross that were on sale,

694
00:24:52,955 --> 00:24:53,774
like, it wasn't

695
00:24:54,232 --> 00:24:56,388
going to the Nike store and getting, like,

696
00:24:56,547 --> 00:24:59,431
the latest brand new spikes. That wasn't my

697
00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:01,101
experience. And a lot of the people around

698
00:25:01,101 --> 00:25:03,827
me experience. And I think we are getting

699
00:25:04,202 --> 00:25:06,905
so much smarter and learning so much more.

700
00:25:07,065 --> 00:25:09,700
And so athletes are training differently. Now we

701
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:11,605
have high school athletes who are training, like,

702
00:25:12,002 --> 00:25:14,304
professional athletes. I didn't lift a single weight

703
00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:16,630
until I got to college. Wow. And so

704
00:25:17,097 --> 00:25:19,322
so many things are changing now that... Yeah.

705
00:25:19,481 --> 00:25:20,911
If you're training like a pro and you're

706
00:25:20,911 --> 00:25:22,659
already you... You already have this level of

707
00:25:22,659 --> 00:25:24,725
talent. You're gonna be running, like a pro

708
00:25:24,725 --> 00:25:26,093
as well in terms of time.

709
00:25:27,208 --> 00:25:29,041
And so I think it's just a shift

710
00:25:29,041 --> 00:25:30,817
that we're seeing in Track fields

711
00:25:31,751 --> 00:25:32,251
from

712
00:25:32,708 --> 00:25:35,354
7 year olds to 18 year olds, and

713
00:25:35,354 --> 00:25:37,608
things are just changing and people are getting

714
00:25:38,224 --> 00:25:41,095
faster because they're fully using the research and

715
00:25:41,095 --> 00:25:42,450
the knowledge and the equipment,

716
00:25:42,864 --> 00:25:43,582
that we have.

717
00:25:45,416 --> 00:25:46,952
And so also, just

718
00:25:47,329 --> 00:25:50,280
when you have such talented people who come

719
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,317
into the space, like,

720
00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:54,130
let's say, Sydney, for example,

721
00:25:54,690 --> 00:25:56,130
when you have people come into the space

722
00:25:56,130 --> 00:25:59,650
who are running so incredibly fast, you automatically

723
00:25:59,650 --> 00:26:01,899
make everyone else around you better. They have

724
00:26:01,899 --> 00:26:03,725
to they have to level up. They have

725
00:26:03,725 --> 00:26:05,154
to run faster. So if you have 1

726
00:26:05,154 --> 00:26:07,853
athlete in college who is killing it and

727
00:26:07,853 --> 00:26:08,727
running 40 nines,

728
00:26:09,698 --> 00:26:10,895
anyone else you wants to get on the

729
00:26:10,895 --> 00:26:12,890
podium or even touch it, they simply have

730
00:26:12,890 --> 00:26:15,145
to elevate and be better as well. So

731
00:26:15,523 --> 00:26:17,214
I think we're is... It's really fun. Like

732
00:26:17,214 --> 00:26:18,728
seeing what what we're seeing. I'm glad I

733
00:26:18,728 --> 00:26:21,519
graduated when I did, but I'm I'm not

734
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:22,657
in that, but

735
00:26:23,193 --> 00:26:24,947
it is an exciting shift we're seeing in

736
00:26:24,947 --> 00:26:27,449
the sport. Like but you might have elevated

737
00:26:27,505 --> 00:26:29,591
as well. You know, you would have yeah.

738
00:26:30,281 --> 00:26:30,599
Yeah.

739
00:26:31,789 --> 00:26:33,534
But that's interesting and I wonder...

740
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:37,353
Some people, like, a Sydney can handle that

741
00:26:37,353 --> 00:26:39,176
for so many years, but I just wonder,

742
00:26:39,255 --> 00:26:40,785
like, how many people

743
00:26:41,727 --> 00:26:44,031
we'll get burnt out if they're doing all

744
00:26:44,031 --> 00:26:46,415
of those, like, extra things from the age

745
00:26:46,415 --> 00:26:48,798
of, like, 13 years old. Like, you think

746
00:26:48,798 --> 00:26:49,752
if you started that then,

747
00:26:50,404 --> 00:26:51,544
Yeah. I definitely

748
00:26:52,242 --> 00:26:54,480
not to wish Ill on anyone, but I

749
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,798
do think that at some point there is

750
00:26:56,798 --> 00:26:58,476
going to be a fall off because it's,

751
00:26:58,556 --> 00:26:59,115
like, how much...

752
00:26:59,769 --> 00:27:01,761
Faster can you get your body hasn't even

753
00:27:01,761 --> 00:27:03,535
fully developed yet, And

754
00:27:04,151 --> 00:27:05,027
it'll be...

755
00:27:05,585 --> 00:27:07,418
I'm so curious to see how this plays

756
00:27:07,418 --> 00:27:09,984
out over the years, especially when. You go

757
00:27:09,984 --> 00:27:11,424
pro straight out of high school and you

758
00:27:11,424 --> 00:27:13,044
don't have that c

759
00:27:13,345 --> 00:27:15,825
development, and it's it's hard. It's it's very

760
00:27:15,825 --> 00:27:17,444
difficult. I think to be

761
00:27:18,154 --> 00:27:19,660
professional, and I think a lot of times

762
00:27:19,660 --> 00:27:21,721
you overlook that, and it's just... Oh, if

763
00:27:21,721 --> 00:27:23,781
you're running the times, then, yeah, you should

764
00:27:23,781 --> 00:27:25,940
go you should go pro. But there's so

765
00:27:25,940 --> 00:27:27,451
much more to it. They're such a different.

766
00:27:27,690 --> 00:27:30,316
There's a transition period. There's a coaching,

767
00:27:31,112 --> 00:27:34,078
transitional period and your body changes and things

768
00:27:34,078 --> 00:27:35,137
like that. So

769
00:27:35,596 --> 00:27:37,434
I definitely think there's... There has to be

770
00:27:37,434 --> 00:27:39,691
some sort of a little bit more care

771
00:27:39,831 --> 00:27:40,470
pertaining to it.

772
00:27:41,122 --> 00:27:43,685
Yeah. Can you imagine not getting your college

773
00:27:43,820 --> 00:27:46,202
experience becoming an Nc double champion and just

774
00:27:46,202 --> 00:27:47,654
like, I'm sure there's so many

775
00:27:48,107 --> 00:27:49,480
amazing memories from

776
00:27:49,789 --> 00:27:50,587
running in college.

777
00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:52,979
For sure. That's such a special time. And

778
00:27:53,059 --> 00:27:54,277
I even say like, just

779
00:27:54,654 --> 00:27:56,728
socially, like, it's so important to learn how

780
00:27:56,728 --> 00:27:58,004
to be on a team and how to

781
00:27:58,004 --> 00:27:59,301
work with different personalities

782
00:27:59,614 --> 00:28:03,390
and it's it's important for your social development

783
00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:06,085
as well as, like, your athletic development.

784
00:28:06,658 --> 00:28:08,727
So you you are an Olympic gold medal,

785
00:28:08,966 --> 00:28:11,273
am Bronze Medal in in the 4 by

786
00:28:11,273 --> 00:28:12,625
4 relay and mixed relay.

787
00:28:13,182 --> 00:28:15,115
What does it mean going to Paris

788
00:28:15,822 --> 00:28:18,919
as an individual this time. This one's special

789
00:28:18,919 --> 00:28:19,419
because

790
00:28:20,189 --> 00:28:21,006
I've made

791
00:28:21,618 --> 00:28:23,229
every team that I have made

792
00:28:23,699 --> 00:28:25,078
I've made individually

793
00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:27,774
except for the 20 21 Olympic olympics team.

794
00:28:28,813 --> 00:28:29,313
And

795
00:28:29,852 --> 00:28:30,831
I think sometimes

796
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:31,825
that gets

797
00:28:32,421 --> 00:28:33,852
overlooked when it comes to me and people

798
00:28:33,852 --> 00:28:35,282
can see me as a sort of relay

799
00:28:35,282 --> 00:28:37,906
specialist, and I do run incredible relay relays,

800
00:28:38,065 --> 00:28:40,768
but I'm also an incredible open 400 meter

801
00:28:40,768 --> 00:28:41,006
runner.

802
00:28:41,657 --> 00:28:43,665
And I'm glad that

803
00:28:44,276 --> 00:28:46,657
even though I have made it in the

804
00:28:46,657 --> 00:28:48,324
open 400 in the past and that's kind

805
00:28:48,324 --> 00:28:50,643
of been overlooked because I haven't progressed well

806
00:28:50,643 --> 00:28:53,035
throughout the rounds, and I can acknowledge that

807
00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:54,970
and and admit that. But

808
00:28:55,904 --> 00:28:57,738
I just feel, like, right now, I'm in

809
00:28:57,738 --> 00:28:58,637
a place of

810
00:28:59,027 --> 00:29:01,885
making a statement. And so not only did

811
00:29:01,965 --> 00:29:04,426
I win, but I won an incredible fashion,

812
00:29:04,664 --> 00:29:06,513
and not only did I win, but

813
00:29:06,983 --> 00:29:09,616
I ran P yard back to back. And

814
00:29:09,616 --> 00:29:10,834
so I think

815
00:29:11,291 --> 00:29:13,525
that sets me up nicely going into Paris.

816
00:29:13,939 --> 00:29:15,291
And kind of being like,

817
00:29:16,406 --> 00:29:17,224
okay. She's

818
00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:20,703
she's finally coming into her own. Like, I'm

819
00:29:20,703 --> 00:29:21,203
finally

820
00:29:21,755 --> 00:29:23,434
being the candle that I knew I could

821
00:29:23,434 --> 00:29:25,035
be that my coaches knew I could be

822
00:29:25,035 --> 00:29:26,734
that my parents knew I could be

823
00:29:27,035 --> 00:29:27,535
in

824
00:29:28,154 --> 00:29:29,329
entering the space of

825
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,520
I want to show that I am so

826
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,548
much more than just an incredible relay runner.

827
00:29:34,866 --> 00:29:36,938
I can also replicate it in the open

828
00:29:36,938 --> 00:29:38,984
400. So I'm really excited for that and

829
00:29:39,104 --> 00:29:40,403
to get the chance to

830
00:29:40,782 --> 00:29:41,421
showcase it.

831
00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:45,017
Oh, I'm so excited for you. Yeah. Earlier

832
00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:46,215
you had mentioned when I said, like,

833
00:29:46,949 --> 00:29:48,385
they didn't mention your name until, like, you

834
00:29:48,385 --> 00:29:50,300
were, like, about to win, and you're like,

835
00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:51,897
yeah, I don't mention me unless I win.

836
00:29:52,535 --> 00:29:54,131
And I... I've been thinking about this a

837
00:29:54,131 --> 00:29:56,693
lot lately. I interviewed Michael Johnson and we

838
00:29:56,693 --> 00:29:57,568
were talking about, like,

839
00:29:58,442 --> 00:30:01,065
track personalities and, like, contracts and all this

840
00:30:01,065 --> 00:30:02,758
thing, all these things. And

841
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:04,765
it's like, you can't

842
00:30:05,461 --> 00:30:07,775
just have this, like, big, loud,

843
00:30:08,253 --> 00:30:10,805
exciting personality if that's not who you are.

844
00:30:11,284 --> 00:30:12,321
And I wonder, like,

845
00:30:12,973 --> 00:30:14,323
you seem like a little bit of an

846
00:30:14,323 --> 00:30:16,387
introverted person. I wonder do you feel like

847
00:30:16,387 --> 00:30:17,578
that's 1 of the reasons.

848
00:30:18,689 --> 00:30:20,356
It seems like people don't talk about you

849
00:30:20,356 --> 00:30:21,627
as much as they probably should.

850
00:30:22,198 --> 00:30:25,401
Yeah. I am certainly an introvert, but

851
00:30:25,775 --> 00:30:27,126
I don't know. I think I I say,

852
00:30:27,206 --> 00:30:29,114
like, this is my job. My job is

853
00:30:29,114 --> 00:30:32,485
to run fast and towing win races. My

854
00:30:32,485 --> 00:30:33,865
job is not to

855
00:30:34,404 --> 00:30:36,884
be a source of entertainment outside of that.

856
00:30:37,205 --> 00:30:39,225
I don't... I shouldn't have to

857
00:30:39,858 --> 00:30:42,410
dance and and do all these things and,

858
00:30:42,490 --> 00:30:44,004
like, be funny on Twitter. Like,

859
00:30:44,881 --> 00:30:46,635
that's not what you're paying me to do.

860
00:30:46,875 --> 00:30:48,070
You know if you want me to do

861
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:50,318
that, put a little extra dolly in there.

862
00:30:50,797 --> 00:30:54,306
But my job as a contracted athlete is

863
00:30:54,306 --> 00:30:56,618
to run fast and win races make teams

864
00:30:56,618 --> 00:30:57,336
and get medals.

865
00:30:58,068 --> 00:31:00,686
And that's what I'm doing. And the 400

866
00:31:00,686 --> 00:31:03,011
or so tiring. I don't have

867
00:31:03,781 --> 00:31:05,865
energy before the race to be doing too

868
00:31:05,865 --> 00:31:08,205
much. I have to conserve everything I have

869
00:31:08,424 --> 00:31:09,865
to run the race well.

870
00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:13,876
But, yeah, I don't know. I think even

871
00:31:13,876 --> 00:31:16,904
with being an introvert, like, if you have

872
00:31:16,904 --> 00:31:19,294
a history of success of winning and of

873
00:31:19,294 --> 00:31:21,764
making teams then you ought to be mentioned.

874
00:31:22,322 --> 00:31:22,822
And

875
00:31:23,134 --> 00:31:25,601
I'm not necessarily offended by it because I

876
00:31:25,601 --> 00:31:26,954
don't care for a lot of the attention

877
00:31:26,954 --> 00:31:28,807
that's not really my style, but

878
00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:30,319
I've made

879
00:31:30,775 --> 00:31:32,446
individual teams numerous times.

880
00:31:33,019 --> 00:31:33,519
I

881
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:36,539
was the American and c record holder in

882
00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:37,660
the indoor 400.

883
00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:40,140
I was running 49 in college at the

884
00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,579
time. I think it was like, number 4.

885
00:31:41,913 --> 00:31:43,658
On the list. It's definitely gotten bumped down,

886
00:31:43,895 --> 00:31:44,395
but

887
00:31:44,768 --> 00:31:47,463
I have always been in the mix. I've

888
00:31:47,463 --> 00:31:49,128
always been in the top 3 mix.

889
00:31:49,698 --> 00:31:51,608
And so that just hasn't been reflected in

890
00:31:51,608 --> 00:31:53,597
the case of when discussing me because I

891
00:31:53,597 --> 00:31:55,825
think it gets forgotten. Mh. Because I get

892
00:31:55,825 --> 00:31:56,755
associated with

893
00:31:57,429 --> 00:31:58,539
relay running only,

894
00:31:59,174 --> 00:31:59,674
despite

895
00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:01,102
making it

896
00:32:01,871 --> 00:32:03,720
individual more often than not. But

897
00:32:04,427 --> 00:32:06,601
Yeah. It's it's a really interesting

898
00:32:07,615 --> 00:32:08,673
thing that

899
00:32:09,050 --> 00:32:11,782
I don't necessarily understand, but

900
00:32:12,335 --> 00:32:14,335
I don't hold it against anyone. I'm gonna

901
00:32:14,335 --> 00:32:15,075
keep being

902
00:32:15,695 --> 00:32:18,434
quiet because that's what I prefer. And

903
00:32:18,974 --> 00:32:21,315
not what I get paid to do. So

904
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,537
Yeah. I, like, I like, didn't know how

905
00:32:23,537 --> 00:32:24,888
to word that question. I was like, I

906
00:32:24,888 --> 00:32:26,637
don't wanna be offensive when I say that

907
00:32:26,637 --> 00:32:26,717
this.

908
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:29,420
No. You're it's... I mean, it's literally just

909
00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:31,661
the truth. I remember when I won. The

910
00:32:31,661 --> 00:32:32,456
indoor 400,

911
00:32:32,853 --> 00:32:35,078
and the article was written about second place.

912
00:32:36,111 --> 00:32:38,280
Instead of me. And so

913
00:32:38,908 --> 00:32:40,901
it's like, what more what more can I

914
00:32:40,901 --> 00:32:42,655
do? I don't know. I don't know what

915
00:32:42,655 --> 00:32:44,728
else I can do. And so it's fine.

916
00:32:44,967 --> 00:32:46,482
I'm I'm here to Run. I'm here to

917
00:32:46,482 --> 00:32:48,172
win. I'm here here to make teams and

918
00:32:48,172 --> 00:32:50,408
get medals I'm not not necessarily here to

919
00:32:50,408 --> 00:32:52,962
be an announcer favorite, and that's perfectly fine.

920
00:32:53,441 --> 00:32:54,639
Well, the other thing too,

921
00:32:55,437 --> 00:32:57,368
and I think part of what Michael Johnson's

922
00:32:57,368 --> 00:32:58,805
is trying to do with the the track

923
00:32:58,805 --> 00:33:00,881
leak, G slam track leak, it's like, I

924
00:33:00,881 --> 00:33:02,977
feel like outside of the, like, very

925
00:33:03,515 --> 00:33:05,671
tight knit running media and running space, like,

926
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:09,435
people don't understand worlds. Like people. Yeah. They,

927
00:33:09,595 --> 00:33:09,754
like,

928
00:33:10,472 --> 00:33:12,625
Olympics are on this pedestal and, like, they

929
00:33:12,625 --> 00:33:14,141
don't understand Oh, she made a world team.

930
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:15,576
What does that mean? Does that mean she's

931
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,346
an Olympia? So like, if we can, like,

932
00:33:17,506 --> 00:33:19,420
mainstream that a little bit more, that would

933
00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:22,291
be hugely helpful. For sure. For sure. People

934
00:33:22,291 --> 00:33:22,791
only

935
00:33:23,806 --> 00:33:25,880
understand Olympics every 4 years. I remember when

936
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,110
I first graduated,

937
00:33:27,564 --> 00:33:29,811
and I was looking for an apartment

938
00:33:30,265 --> 00:33:32,092
and trying to show people like, oh, I'm

939
00:33:32,092 --> 00:33:34,815
professional athlete, like, here's how works. I remember

940
00:33:34,815 --> 00:33:37,048
this this 1 leasing agent. She was, like,

941
00:33:37,606 --> 00:33:39,042
you on track. And I was, yeah, She's

942
00:33:39,042 --> 00:33:40,398
like, how are you gonna pay rent The

943
00:33:40,557 --> 00:33:42,551
Olympics are only every once every 4 years.

944
00:33:43,523 --> 00:33:45,673
And I was like, no. It's not quite

945
00:33:45,673 --> 00:33:47,186
how it works. I'm not I'm not getting

946
00:33:47,186 --> 00:33:50,292
1 check every 4 years. And, yeah, we

947
00:33:50,292 --> 00:33:53,488
just certainly have to... Have to get more

948
00:33:53,488 --> 00:33:55,474
into the mainstream so that people can understand

949
00:33:55,474 --> 00:33:57,460
the sport. So you've been sponsored by new

950
00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:59,843
balance for a while? And how is that

951
00:33:59,843 --> 00:34:02,084
going? And and what is that looking like,

952
00:34:02,722 --> 00:34:04,637
I love it. I love the New balance

953
00:34:04,637 --> 00:34:06,872
family so much. Part of the reason, a

954
00:34:06,872 --> 00:34:08,468
large part of the reason why assignment them

955
00:34:08,468 --> 00:34:10,478
in the first place is because I didn't

956
00:34:10,478 --> 00:34:12,472
wanna be just a number. I didn't want

957
00:34:12,472 --> 00:34:14,545
to be just another athlete and looked at

958
00:34:14,545 --> 00:34:14,785
as...

959
00:34:15,742 --> 00:34:18,214
Oh, well, like, whatever. Just going through the

960
00:34:18,214 --> 00:34:20,699
check marks of things, but They have been

961
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:23,242
so supportive when I have made teams. Mh

962
00:34:23,242 --> 00:34:24,672
and the 1 time I didn't make a

963
00:34:24,672 --> 00:34:26,500
team. They were still just a supportive of

964
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,056
nothing changed.

965
00:34:27,629 --> 00:34:31,006
And so I can really appreciate from them

966
00:34:31,065 --> 00:34:32,524
for that. Like, I

967
00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:33,802
appreciate how

968
00:34:34,421 --> 00:34:35,994
supported they all are when we

969
00:34:36,512 --> 00:34:38,820
sign someone new or on by onboard someone,

970
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:41,845
like, everyone knows and it's a celebration of

971
00:34:41,845 --> 00:34:43,676
that person and it's so much excitement.

972
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:45,927
I was so grateful that, you know, I've

973
00:34:45,927 --> 00:34:47,446
met the person who signs my checks. A

974
00:34:47,446 --> 00:34:48,565
lot of times you go don't get to

975
00:34:48,565 --> 00:34:51,042
have that experience, but I know him face

976
00:34:51,042 --> 00:34:52,800
to face. Like, we've met. He's met my

977
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,665
parents. My siblings, and it's just such a

978
00:34:56,723 --> 00:34:57,382
such a

979
00:34:58,396 --> 00:35:00,228
great experience from a shoe brand because I

980
00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:01,981
know a lot of people don't have that

981
00:35:01,981 --> 00:35:03,277
experience. And so

982
00:35:03,748 --> 00:35:05,579
I'm, I'm always proud to represent them.

983
00:35:06,932 --> 00:35:08,524
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1009
00:36:18,945 --> 00:36:19,978
Just a couple more questions.

1010
00:36:20,932 --> 00:36:23,000
Who is the first person you talked to

1011
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,226
after you won? Who is the first person

1012
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:26,737
you called on the phone? Oh,

1013
00:36:27,309 --> 00:36:28,846
First person I talked to

1014
00:36:29,223 --> 00:36:29,723
was

1015
00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:32,653
Ryan Coach watts because they were right at

1016
00:36:32,653 --> 00:36:35,365
the finish line, and so I gave them

1017
00:36:35,365 --> 00:36:36,902
both big hugs and

1018
00:36:37,295 --> 00:36:39,375
they were the first 2 people I saw.

1019
00:36:39,934 --> 00:36:42,355
And the first person I called, I

1020
00:36:42,734 --> 00:36:43,795
facetime my

1021
00:36:45,149 --> 00:36:46,747
high school coach, but he's been my coach

1022
00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:48,346
since I started running at 7 years old.

1023
00:36:48,505 --> 00:36:50,902
Oh. So from 7 to 18, I had

1024
00:36:50,902 --> 00:36:52,900
the same coach, and I facetime him and

1025
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,432
him and his wife in the living room,

1026
00:36:54,591 --> 00:36:57,302
and they were screaming and cheering, and that

1027
00:36:57,302 --> 00:36:58,896
was just a really special moment. He's like,

1028
00:36:58,976 --> 00:37:00,490
we're coming to paris. Like, we already booked

1029
00:37:00,490 --> 00:37:02,027
the flights. And so

1030
00:37:02,419 --> 00:37:04,434
that was really special because he's

1031
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:05,710
quite literally

1032
00:37:06,326 --> 00:37:08,399
the reason Even started running track or and

1033
00:37:08,399 --> 00:37:10,073
even stayed with it. And so it was

1034
00:37:10,073 --> 00:37:11,760
just a really special moment. For us to

1035
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,217
have and get to see their faces. So...

1036
00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:16,515
And what I coach Wat say to you?

1037
00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:18,417
He that's your crying.

1038
00:37:21,142 --> 00:37:22,657
Yeah. I think, you know, a lot of

1039
00:37:22,657 --> 00:37:24,114
people have been asking me

1040
00:37:25,688 --> 00:37:27,681
a little bit offensive if I'm honest, but,

1041
00:37:27,761 --> 00:37:29,523
like, Oh, like, where did that come from?

1042
00:37:29,761 --> 00:37:32,141
Like, what happened? Like, what change? And I'm

1043
00:37:32,141 --> 00:37:35,076
like, if you are my coach, your my

1044
00:37:35,076 --> 00:37:35,869
training partners.

1045
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,434
You even come to a practice of mind.

1046
00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:39,652
Like, if you

1047
00:37:40,029 --> 00:37:41,726
have been around and seen

1048
00:37:42,183 --> 00:37:43,300
the last few years,

1049
00:37:43,795 --> 00:37:45,635
this is not shocking. Mh. This is not...

1050
00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:47,954
I've ran 49 before. I was always able

1051
00:37:47,954 --> 00:37:49,474
to do it again. So nothing, like,

1052
00:37:50,114 --> 00:37:51,795
where did it come from? It's always been

1053
00:37:51,795 --> 00:37:54,121
who I am. Like, I've been a 49...

1054
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:57,402
Hopefully 48 second runner. Like, this isn't anything

1055
00:37:58,254 --> 00:38:00,320
brand new. I know it's seen shocking from

1056
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,483
the outside just because you're, like, oh, you've

1057
00:38:02,483 --> 00:38:04,954
been running, like 50 point and blah blah

1058
00:38:04,954 --> 00:38:05,990
blah, but it's like,

1059
00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:09,259
Ko Watson, how much to say? Because he's

1060
00:38:09,259 --> 00:38:10,216
like, yeah. Like,

1061
00:38:10,868 --> 00:38:12,697
I I knew all... He always says, he's

1062
00:38:12,697 --> 00:38:14,128
like, I know I have the best dog

1063
00:38:14,128 --> 00:38:16,036
in the race. He's like, I'm just waiting

1064
00:38:16,036 --> 00:38:17,388
for you to get on board with that

1065
00:38:17,388 --> 00:38:19,296
as well. And so there wasn't a whole

1066
00:38:19,296 --> 00:38:19,853
lot to say.

1067
00:38:20,822 --> 00:38:23,208
In the conversation because this is what he's

1068
00:38:23,208 --> 00:38:26,391
always seen for me regardless, and he's just

1069
00:38:26,391 --> 00:38:27,981
glad that now. Now we're on the same

1070
00:38:27,981 --> 00:38:28,141
page.

1071
00:38:29,429 --> 00:38:30,940
And what about your family? What did they

1072
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:31,099
say?

1073
00:38:32,054 --> 00:38:33,089
My mom lost her voice.

1074
00:38:34,601 --> 00:38:37,306
She... I heard was screaming and crying in

1075
00:38:37,306 --> 00:38:40,211
the stands and They were both just so

1076
00:38:40,668 --> 00:38:42,981
happy for me. You know, granted the win

1077
00:38:42,981 --> 00:38:44,576
is great. The P is great, but they're,

1078
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:46,170
like, just to watch you go out there

1079
00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:48,339
and run with so much confidence. Like, This

1080
00:38:48,339 --> 00:38:50,177
is all we've ever wanted for you. Like,

1081
00:38:50,337 --> 00:38:52,575
this is just so exciting that. Like I

1082
00:38:52,575 --> 00:38:54,093
said, everyone knew it before me.

1083
00:38:54,892 --> 00:38:57,050
Everyone knew what I was capable of. They're

1084
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:58,736
like, we're just so glad to 5 and

1085
00:38:58,736 --> 00:39:00,487
least see you step into, like, who you've

1086
00:39:00,487 --> 00:39:01,123
always been.

1087
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,146
And so everyone was just really really excited.

1088
00:39:04,226 --> 00:39:05,658
And really happy for me. And really proud

1089
00:39:05,658 --> 00:39:07,428
of me. We're what did that take for

1090
00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:08,947
you to step into who you've always been?

1091
00:39:09,106 --> 00:39:11,104
Like, what what what was waiting on that

1092
00:39:11,104 --> 00:39:11,823
for that confidence?

1093
00:39:12,782 --> 00:39:14,161
That's such a good question.

1094
00:39:15,273 --> 00:39:16,391
I don't know if it's just...

1095
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:19,264
If it was just some a matter of,

1096
00:39:19,344 --> 00:39:19,664
like,

1097
00:39:21,021 --> 00:39:23,596
yeah. I'm tired. I'm tired of not being

1098
00:39:23,909 --> 00:39:24,948
I said for the last couple years. I

1099
00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:26,146
was like, Don't know. I'm waiting to get

1100
00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:28,404
back to me. I'm waiting to feel, like

1101
00:39:28,543 --> 00:39:29,103
me again.

1102
00:39:29,742 --> 00:39:30,242
And

1103
00:39:32,073 --> 00:39:34,463
I finally just feel like me. I don't

1104
00:39:34,463 --> 00:39:36,876
know if there was something specific that

1105
00:39:37,252 --> 00:39:40,222
shifted or something that really changed, but

1106
00:39:40,758 --> 00:39:41,258
just

1107
00:39:41,967 --> 00:39:42,467
meta

1108
00:39:42,999 --> 00:39:44,031
realization of being, like,

1109
00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:47,468
how long am I going to

1110
00:39:48,556 --> 00:39:51,043
sit back and not not be who got

1111
00:39:51,043 --> 00:39:52,641
created me to be? Like, how long am

1112
00:39:52,721 --> 00:39:54,240
I gonna... I don't know how much longer

1113
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,237
I have in this sport? And so do

1114
00:39:56,318 --> 00:39:57,856
I want to leave my career

1115
00:39:58,475 --> 00:40:01,447
being, like, Man. What if or, like, what

1116
00:40:01,447 --> 00:40:03,784
what could I have accomplished if I just

1117
00:40:03,923 --> 00:40:06,560
gotten out of my own way. And so

1118
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,885
maybe it comes with maturity and being older

1119
00:40:08,885 --> 00:40:09,920
and knowing that, like,

1120
00:40:11,114 --> 00:40:13,205
I I will be retiring

1121
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:15,968
probably before the next Olympics, I don't know.

1122
00:40:16,207 --> 00:40:16,659
But

1123
00:40:17,574 --> 00:40:19,007
kinda of being, like, I don't I don't

1124
00:40:19,007 --> 00:40:20,518
wanna leave any stone un unearned.

1125
00:40:21,075 --> 00:40:23,166
I want to make sure I go out

1126
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:25,553
on my own terms and

1127
00:40:26,104 --> 00:40:26,983
leaving the sport,

1128
00:40:28,422 --> 00:40:28,981
the best...

1129
00:40:29,541 --> 00:40:31,619
Leaving the sport with my best not still

1130
00:40:31,619 --> 00:40:33,616
on the table. I wanted... I wanted to

1131
00:40:33,616 --> 00:40:34,895
have used everything.

1132
00:40:35,708 --> 00:40:37,861
Do you pray before your races? I do.

1133
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:40,036
Every single time. I think the last

1134
00:40:40,891 --> 00:40:42,167
before semi finals,

1135
00:40:42,645 --> 00:40:43,443
I had said, like,

1136
00:40:44,654 --> 00:40:45,850
I had to smile on my face which

1137
00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:46,807
just so rare for me.

1138
00:40:47,685 --> 00:40:49,519
I smiled and I was like, you know,

1139
00:40:49,759 --> 00:40:50,716
god, like show me how good it can

1140
00:40:50,716 --> 00:40:52,949
get. Like, show me how good Can get

1141
00:40:52,949 --> 00:40:53,827
and blow my mind.

1142
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:55,839
Then he did, and I was like, oh,

1143
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,159
like,

1144
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,480
okay. So when I go into finals,

1145
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:01,519
I was so just grateful. I told myself

1146
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:03,132
I was like, you know what? If nothing

1147
00:41:03,132 --> 00:41:04,249
else gets done for me, if I don't

1148
00:41:04,249 --> 00:41:04,887
make this team,

1149
00:41:05,445 --> 00:41:07,280
if yesterday was as good as it's gonna

1150
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,673
get, I'm okay with that. And I just

1151
00:41:09,673 --> 00:41:11,109
went into the race with so much peace

1152
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:11,827
because it was like,

1153
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,701
I have already accomplished something that I haven't

1154
00:41:14,701 --> 00:41:16,446
been able to accomplish in the last 6

1155
00:41:16,446 --> 00:41:18,984
years. And so at this point, everything else

1156
00:41:18,984 --> 00:41:20,412
is icing on the cake, like,

1157
00:41:20,982 --> 00:41:22,989
I get to run so freely and peacefully

1158
00:41:23,203 --> 00:41:23,703
because

1159
00:41:24,949 --> 00:41:28,059
it was already enough. And so I up

1160
00:41:28,059 --> 00:41:30,212
blow my mind, and so it got blown

1161
00:41:30,212 --> 00:41:33,003
twice back to back. So it was just...

1162
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,474
Yeah. It was it was just such a

1163
00:41:35,474 --> 00:41:36,591
special a special thing.

1164
00:41:37,483 --> 00:41:38,519
Okay. I have to ask you what more

1165
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:39,954
question about the race and then I'm gonna

1166
00:41:39,954 --> 00:41:41,309
have you set us off with your paris

1167
00:41:41,309 --> 00:41:41,468
thoughts.

1168
00:41:43,141 --> 00:41:44,496
Like, were you thinking at all?

1169
00:41:45,229 --> 00:41:46,345
You know what I mean? Like, in these

1170
00:41:46,345 --> 00:41:48,178
distance races, like, there's time to be in

1171
00:41:48,178 --> 00:41:50,011
your head, but like, you have 49 seconds.

1172
00:41:50,171 --> 00:41:52,562
Like, Right. Was anything going through your mind

1173
00:41:52,562 --> 00:41:54,806
in this race. I think the only time

1174
00:41:54,965 --> 00:41:57,375
I had a conscious thought was

1175
00:41:58,228 --> 00:42:00,853
the last, like, 01:20 or so where, like,

1176
00:42:01,012 --> 00:42:01,967
I really start moving.

1177
00:42:02,699 --> 00:42:03,199
And

1178
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:04,300
it was just...

1179
00:42:06,139 --> 00:42:08,219
Okay. Go. I was kinda just, like,

1180
00:42:09,179 --> 00:42:11,579
arms. Again, I couldn't exactly tell my position

1181
00:42:11,579 --> 00:42:12,952
because of the I was in, but I

1182
00:42:12,952 --> 00:42:13,191
was like,

1183
00:42:14,148 --> 00:42:15,903
I think I'm I think I'm, in front

1184
00:42:15,903 --> 00:42:17,418
or like I think I'm here. Like, I

1185
00:42:17,418 --> 00:42:19,652
think I'm I'm close... I'm close enough within

1186
00:42:19,652 --> 00:42:22,778
striking distance to either win this thing. Or

1187
00:42:22,778 --> 00:42:24,936
or get second. I was, I think. I

1188
00:42:24,936 --> 00:42:27,013
think I'm gonna win. And so it was

1189
00:42:27,013 --> 00:42:29,090
just like arms, arms, arms.

1190
00:42:29,583 --> 00:42:32,206
And go. The last the last 01:20 or

1191
00:42:32,206 --> 00:42:32,365
so.

1192
00:42:33,398 --> 00:42:36,419
Go. I love that. I I cannot get

1193
00:42:36,419 --> 00:42:38,659
my boys under mean, they understand how the

1194
00:42:38,659 --> 00:42:40,828
lanes are, like, you're up, you start further.

1195
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:43,847
They get that your... The track is shorter

1196
00:42:43,903 --> 00:42:45,333
on the inside and stuff, but, like,

1197
00:42:46,143 --> 00:42:49,478
they... It still looks so. Yeah. Spread out

1198
00:42:49,478 --> 00:42:51,146
that they're like, but but she's... That's not

1199
00:42:51,146 --> 00:42:52,734
fair. I'm like, no. No. I promise you

1200
00:42:52,734 --> 00:42:53,687
it's equal distance.

1201
00:42:54,179 --> 00:42:56,566
They cannot wrap their heads around it. I

1202
00:42:56,566 --> 00:42:58,077
don't blame them. It doesn't always feel like

1203
00:42:58,077 --> 00:42:59,908
it. It feels like they're really far ahead.

1204
00:43:00,624 --> 00:43:02,375
So that's why you want those middle lanes

1205
00:43:02,375 --> 00:43:02,852
feel better.

1206
00:43:03,584 --> 00:43:05,898
Yeah. Yeah. Just a little more security and

1207
00:43:05,898 --> 00:43:07,812
you're able to see everything better. So...

1208
00:43:09,248 --> 00:43:11,734
Okay. Well, send us off with your feelings

1209
00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:13,666
leading into Paris and how you're

1210
00:43:14,042 --> 00:43:14,542
mentally

1211
00:43:15,394 --> 00:43:17,145
mentally and physically preparing. Are you getting a

1212
00:43:17,145 --> 00:43:17,941
little rest right now?

1213
00:43:19,150 --> 00:43:20,422
Little bit of rest, but not too much

1214
00:43:20,581 --> 00:43:21,399
Had it to monaco

1215
00:43:21,774 --> 00:43:23,683
to run in the diamond league. So just

1216
00:43:23,683 --> 00:43:25,671
1 race before I head to Paris. K.

1217
00:43:26,148 --> 00:43:26,648
And

1218
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,113
I'm excited. I keep telling people when I'm

1219
00:43:29,113 --> 00:43:31,128
excited for the shopping because I love

1220
00:43:31,585 --> 00:43:33,500
I love shopping. I am a fashion girl.

1221
00:43:33,659 --> 00:43:35,095
So I'm really excited to do that out

1222
00:43:35,095 --> 00:43:35,334
there,

1223
00:43:35,972 --> 00:43:36,472
and

1224
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,200
I'm excited to have a full olympic experience

1225
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,550
this time. You know, I went to Tokyo,

1226
00:43:41,709 --> 00:43:43,639
but it was, like, Covid and so

1227
00:43:44,012 --> 00:43:44,830
didn't have

1228
00:43:45,299 --> 00:43:47,689
the traditional experience since I'm excited to get

1229
00:43:47,689 --> 00:43:48,348
you see

1230
00:43:48,724 --> 00:43:50,955
what the Olympics are really, really like because

1231
00:43:50,955 --> 00:43:52,788
now we'll have a full stadium, we'll get

1232
00:43:52,788 --> 00:43:54,483
to interact more and

1233
00:43:55,033 --> 00:43:56,703
I know they're going 10 times harder for

1234
00:43:56,703 --> 00:43:58,612
this 1 because of the experience we had

1235
00:43:58,612 --> 00:44:01,078
in 20 21. So I'm just excited for

1236
00:44:01,078 --> 00:44:01,476
all that.

1237
00:44:02,366 --> 00:44:04,196
And what will your prayer be before this

1238
00:44:04,196 --> 00:44:04,435
race?

1239
00:44:05,231 --> 00:44:06,503
Oh, I don't know. I'm gonna have to

1240
00:44:06,503 --> 00:44:07,958
sit down and and

1241
00:44:08,413 --> 00:44:10,641
and think of that wide in journal and

1242
00:44:10,641 --> 00:44:13,040
and meditate and and see. See what comes

1243
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,755
to the surface.

1244
00:44:14,391 --> 00:44:15,822
I'm gonna think about it when you're on

1245
00:44:15,822 --> 00:44:17,832
the line. I'm gonna think I wanna what

1246
00:44:17,889 --> 00:44:19,717
that prayer ended up being. Maybe we could

1247
00:44:19,717 --> 00:44:20,929
talk it after the race.

1248
00:44:21,568 --> 00:44:21,888
Yeah.

1249
00:44:23,327 --> 00:44:24,925
Alright, Kendall. Well, thank you so much for

1250
00:44:24,925 --> 00:44:25,984
your time and

1251
00:44:26,363 --> 00:44:28,761
congratulations and best of luck. Thank you. Thanks

1252
00:44:28,761 --> 00:44:29,320
for having me.

1253
00:44:31,087 --> 00:44:33,312
Thanks so much. Everybody for joining us today

1254
00:44:33,312 --> 00:44:35,958
on this post Olympic trials

1255
00:44:36,411 --> 00:44:39,630
interview. So excited to send Kendall off to

1256
00:44:39,849 --> 00:44:43,045
Paris with lots of support and love, can't

1257
00:44:43,045 --> 00:44:44,883
wait to see what she does. You can

1258
00:44:44,883 --> 00:44:48,000
find Kendall on Instagram. She's kindle underscore kendall,

1259
00:44:48,414 --> 00:44:49,932
I hope you'll find me as well. I'm

1260
00:44:50,012 --> 00:44:52,250
Lindsay Hi 626. I'd love to connect with

1261
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:54,646
you over there. Learn more about this show

1262
00:44:54,646 --> 00:44:56,106
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1263
00:44:56,498 --> 00:44:58,487
at sandy boy productions dot com,

1264
00:44:59,284 --> 00:45:00,637
and don't forget you can check out my

1265
00:45:00,637 --> 00:45:03,263
training plans at lindsay hi dot com for

1266
00:45:03,263 --> 00:45:05,332
the half marathon or the marathon.

1267
00:45:06,063 --> 00:45:08,367
Alright friends. Thanks for being here, and we

1268
00:45:08,367 --> 00:45:10,115
will see you next week and I'll have

1269
00:45:10,115 --> 00:45:10,433
another.