1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,439 And, before Seth Grossman gets into anything, we 2 00:00:03,439 --> 00:00:06,179 have a most important thing to ask him. 3 00:00:06,399 --> 00:00:08,480 What really happened to the Irish pub on 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,800 Saint Patrick's Day, Seth? And and, of course, 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,480 I don't know until I read it in 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,960 the, newspaper. I had no idea they were 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,725 not open either. But that's, 8 00:00:17,204 --> 00:00:18,984 so I I hate to let you down. 9 00:00:20,005 --> 00:00:22,164 But I do not have inside information on 10 00:00:22,164 --> 00:00:23,785 the Irish pub, you know, 11 00:00:24,244 --> 00:00:25,685 other than I have a lot of fond 12 00:00:25,685 --> 00:00:27,780 memories, you know, for more than fifty years. 13 00:00:27,940 --> 00:00:29,859 Yes. Of going there. Yeah. Well well, it 14 00:00:29,859 --> 00:00:32,179 was it's very strange. Saint Patrick's Day and 15 00:00:32,179 --> 00:00:33,479 the Irish pub is closed. 16 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:35,780 Yeah. Yeah. And and in fact, I do 17 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:38,500 remember they organized the first Saint Patrick's Day 18 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:39,000 parade 19 00:00:39,620 --> 00:00:42,020 back in the nineteen eighties. I remember marching 20 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:44,475 down with Kathy Burke, and she put that 21 00:00:44,475 --> 00:00:46,715 whole thing together. And and this year, we 22 00:00:46,715 --> 00:00:48,335 had the biggest one ever. 23 00:00:48,795 --> 00:00:50,795 So it is sad and ironic that, 24 00:00:51,435 --> 00:00:53,355 the person who started it wasn't there for 25 00:00:53,355 --> 00:00:56,395 the, the best Saint Patrick's Day, parade Atlantic 26 00:00:56,395 --> 00:00:57,375 City ever had. 27 00:00:57,950 --> 00:01:00,030 But but, anyway, I'm gonna lead you to 28 00:01:00,030 --> 00:01:01,649 some other topics here. 29 00:01:03,309 --> 00:01:05,549 Libertyandprosperity.com, 30 00:01:05,549 --> 00:01:08,109 of course. We're an organization of like minded 31 00:01:08,109 --> 00:01:10,670 people. We meet for breakfast and talk about 32 00:01:10,670 --> 00:01:13,250 the issues at 09:30 every Saturday morning, 33 00:01:13,765 --> 00:01:16,344 at Sal's Coal Fired Pizza in Somers Point. 34 00:01:16,484 --> 00:01:18,564 We have our libertyandprosperity.com 35 00:01:18,564 --> 00:01:19,864 website. We have, 36 00:01:20,244 --> 00:01:23,444 special events from time to time. We have 37 00:01:23,444 --> 00:01:24,905 free email updates. 38 00:01:25,619 --> 00:01:28,019 And, if you'd like to get them, you 39 00:01:28,019 --> 00:01:30,039 know, just sign up, through the website 40 00:01:30,340 --> 00:01:30,739 or, 41 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:34,280 email us at info@libertyandprosperity.com. 42 00:01:34,659 --> 00:01:36,840 But what's interesting is we are a typical 43 00:01:37,060 --> 00:01:37,560 private 44 00:01:37,939 --> 00:01:38,439 association, 45 00:01:39,344 --> 00:01:41,525 which America was famous for. 46 00:01:41,984 --> 00:01:45,185 We're about a 180 people. We get together. 47 00:01:45,185 --> 00:01:46,885 We pay dues. We raise funds, 48 00:01:47,344 --> 00:01:49,825 and, we raise about $3,033,000 49 00:01:49,825 --> 00:01:50,725 dollars a year, 50 00:01:51,745 --> 00:01:53,219 to be on the radio, to to be 51 00:01:53,219 --> 00:01:54,980 on the web, to have the newsletter, to 52 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:56,040 do all these things. 53 00:01:56,819 --> 00:01:59,159 And it's discouraging and ironic, 54 00:01:59,939 --> 00:02:01,380 when you find out that there are other 55 00:02:01,380 --> 00:02:01,880 groups 56 00:02:02,340 --> 00:02:05,079 that pursue agendas that we disagree with, 57 00:02:05,655 --> 00:02:07,814 that we are paying for. So think of 58 00:02:07,814 --> 00:02:10,294 all the fundraising events, all the dues, begging 59 00:02:10,294 --> 00:02:12,375 for money every week, begging begging for money 60 00:02:12,375 --> 00:02:13,115 on our website. 61 00:02:13,895 --> 00:02:16,715 You have another group that's smaller than us 62 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:19,849 called the Atlantic County Queer Alliance. 63 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:21,370 And 64 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:25,530 on Saint Patrick's Day, last Tuesday no less, 65 00:02:25,909 --> 00:02:26,150 the, 66 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:27,210 CRDA, 67 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:30,250 the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority, 68 00:02:30,764 --> 00:02:32,784 gave the Atlanta County Queer Alliance 69 00:02:33,164 --> 00:02:37,025 $96,453.23. 70 00:02:37,564 --> 00:02:40,144 So without having to have any fundraisers, 71 00:02:40,685 --> 00:02:43,104 without having to beg people for money, without 72 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:44,465 having to have dues, 73 00:02:44,969 --> 00:02:48,090 This group smaller than ours pursuing an agenda, 74 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:50,490 and that that no. No one denies them 75 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:52,030 of the right to claim their agenda, 76 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:54,750 but they're gonna get three times the money 77 00:02:54,889 --> 00:02:56,490 that we have to fight and work for 78 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:57,134 every week 79 00:02:57,694 --> 00:03:01,215 just because some politicians wanna buy votes by 80 00:03:01,215 --> 00:03:04,995 giving them $96,453.23. 81 00:03:05,375 --> 00:03:07,694 And the interesting thing is probably nobody even 82 00:03:07,694 --> 00:03:08,194 knows 83 00:03:08,655 --> 00:03:11,474 that CRDA gives money to groups like that 84 00:03:11,534 --> 00:03:13,920 with that much money. But if you got 85 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:17,620 our liberty and prosperity email update, we reported 86 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,219 that. Nobody else did. 87 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:20,900 Wow. 88 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,879 $96,000. 89 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:24,340 So I could start an organization 90 00:03:25,055 --> 00:03:25,955 and call it whatever 91 00:03:26,814 --> 00:03:29,055 and maybe pitch the CRDA, and maybe I 92 00:03:29,055 --> 00:03:29,955 can get some money. 93 00:03:30,495 --> 00:03:32,415 Right. And now then I'm sure the CRJ 94 00:03:32,415 --> 00:03:33,775 said, well, you know, the lot of the 95 00:03:33,775 --> 00:03:35,534 people who support l b, 96 00:03:36,175 --> 00:03:36,915 what LGBTQ 97 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:39,635 plus, I guess it is. 98 00:03:40,650 --> 00:03:41,150 Lesbian, 99 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:42,430 bisexual, 100 00:03:43,129 --> 00:03:43,629 gay, 101 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:45,709 trans, queer, questioning, 102 00:03:47,050 --> 00:03:49,689 plus. You know? So I'm sure what they 103 00:03:49,689 --> 00:03:51,050 said is, you know, we have a nice 104 00:03:51,050 --> 00:03:52,969 group, and we're gonna go, you know, to 105 00:03:52,969 --> 00:03:55,129 the Atlanta City casinos and spend money. So 106 00:03:55,129 --> 00:03:55,870 give us 107 00:03:56,245 --> 00:03:57,365 $96,000 108 00:03:57,365 --> 00:03:59,625 to promote our group. And I guarantee you, 109 00:03:59,685 --> 00:04:02,185 if, the CRDA would give Liberty and Prosperity 110 00:04:02,405 --> 00:04:03,625 $96,000, 111 00:04:04,004 --> 00:04:06,485 we'd have all sorts of, events to invite 112 00:04:06,485 --> 00:04:08,564 people to come to Atlantic City to enjoy 113 00:04:08,564 --> 00:04:10,025 it. But it just shows how 114 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:11,979 once you open a door 115 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,620 and say the government has the power 116 00:04:15,239 --> 00:04:17,879 to take money from people they don't like 117 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:19,899 and give it to money they do like, 118 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,279 it never ends, and it leads to nothing 119 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,540 but waste, corruption, abuse, 120 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:26,055 and here we are. 121 00:04:26,694 --> 00:04:28,235 That that that that's true. 122 00:04:28,774 --> 00:04:31,735 That's true. You know? Hey. Maybe maybe you 123 00:04:31,735 --> 00:04:33,814 should pitch the CRDA to give you some 124 00:04:33,814 --> 00:04:34,314 money. 125 00:04:35,574 --> 00:04:36,055 Yeah. 126 00:04:36,535 --> 00:04:38,535 It'd be interesting because, again, I think for 127 00:04:38,535 --> 00:04:40,649 whatever reason that the LGBTQ 128 00:04:41,269 --> 00:04:43,769 plus people have to get $96,000, 129 00:04:44,149 --> 00:04:46,069 we can make that same argument. And I've 130 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:47,769 and maybe just for fun, 131 00:04:48,069 --> 00:04:50,470 we should put together that grant application and 132 00:04:50,470 --> 00:04:52,550 and see. Yeah. This is what this is 133 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:54,089 how government is being misused. 134 00:04:54,634 --> 00:04:56,475 Alright. But but, go ahead. I I would 135 00:04:56,475 --> 00:04:58,414 do it. I I would do it. Yeah. 136 00:04:58,875 --> 00:05:00,095 Put that on your agenda. 137 00:05:00,875 --> 00:05:02,794 Meanwhile, you were you were talking about the 138 00:05:02,794 --> 00:05:05,535 the war in, Iran right now. 139 00:05:05,995 --> 00:05:09,220 And as a boomer, you know, our generation 140 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,759 grew up. Our dads were in World War 141 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:12,259 two, 142 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:14,240 and their friends were in World War two. 143 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,699 And we heard all the stories. 144 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,479 And I remember being in junior high school 145 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:19,300 having a 146 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,919 a social studies teacher in Atlantic City called, 147 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,555 mister Worceshafter. I think it was Stanley Wirtschaftter. 148 00:05:25,175 --> 00:05:26,615 And he told us he was in a 149 00:05:26,615 --> 00:05:28,154 tank unit in Germany, 150 00:05:28,935 --> 00:05:30,474 at the end of World War two. 151 00:05:30,854 --> 00:05:33,514 And he talked about fighting the Hitler youth. 152 00:05:33,814 --> 00:05:36,134 And he would tell us that these 13 153 00:05:36,134 --> 00:05:37,595 and 14 year old kids 154 00:05:38,060 --> 00:05:39,680 would run at them with grenades. 155 00:05:40,379 --> 00:05:41,899 They'd hide. They'd shoot, 156 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:43,839 these bazookas that they called. 157 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:46,160 They wouldn't surrender, 158 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:48,300 and they had to kill every one of 159 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:50,060 them. And he talked about how awful it 160 00:05:50,060 --> 00:05:52,145 was to look at these, you know, 13, 161 00:05:52,365 --> 00:05:54,764 14, 12 year old kids that they had 162 00:05:54,764 --> 00:05:57,324 to kill. And and these, kids were determined 163 00:05:57,324 --> 00:05:58,225 to kill them. 164 00:05:59,245 --> 00:06:01,964 And, I talked to veterans who were at 165 00:06:01,964 --> 00:06:02,464 Okinawa 166 00:06:03,180 --> 00:06:05,259 and we talked about being there where women 167 00:06:05,259 --> 00:06:07,019 and children would shoot at them, would never 168 00:06:07,019 --> 00:06:07,519 surrender. 169 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:09,579 That they they take, 170 00:06:10,220 --> 00:06:12,699 many good friends of theirs were killed because 171 00:06:12,699 --> 00:06:13,360 of this. 172 00:06:13,979 --> 00:06:15,439 They would crash airplanes 173 00:06:15,899 --> 00:06:16,959 into their ships. 174 00:06:17,615 --> 00:06:20,115 And and what motivated them to do that? 175 00:06:20,574 --> 00:06:22,834 It was because those German kids 176 00:06:23,294 --> 00:06:25,774 believed the most important thing they could do 177 00:06:25,774 --> 00:06:26,595 in their life 178 00:06:26,975 --> 00:06:29,055 was to die for Germany, to die for 179 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:31,074 Hitler. And the same thing that Japanese, 180 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:34,319 the most noble thing, the greatest achievement would 181 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:35,220 be to die, 182 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:36,899 fighting for the emperor. 183 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:37,759 And, 184 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:40,160 and and how do we deal with this? 185 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,839 Do we go to war with them by 186 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,339 choice? 187 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,479 And and the answer is in World War 188 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:46,079 two, we did not go to war against 189 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:46,979 them by choice. 190 00:06:47,375 --> 00:06:48,514 We watched Germany, 191 00:06:49,214 --> 00:06:51,615 form an army against the treaty. We saw 192 00:06:51,615 --> 00:06:54,354 Germany marched that army to the French border, 193 00:06:54,574 --> 00:06:55,634 and we did nothing. 194 00:06:55,935 --> 00:06:58,334 We saw Germany take over Austria, and we 195 00:06:58,334 --> 00:06:58,995 did nothing. 196 00:06:59,310 --> 00:07:00,290 We saw Germany 197 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:02,770 invade Poland, and we did nothing. 198 00:07:03,870 --> 00:07:06,990 And then suddenly on 12/11/1941, 199 00:07:06,990 --> 00:07:08,770 Germany declared war on us. 200 00:07:09,149 --> 00:07:10,610 And the same thing with Japan. 201 00:07:11,470 --> 00:07:13,149 We didn't get into a war of choice 202 00:07:13,149 --> 00:07:13,970 against Japan. 203 00:07:14,495 --> 00:07:16,735 We let Japan take over Korea, and we 204 00:07:16,735 --> 00:07:19,615 did nothing. We let them invade China, and 205 00:07:19,615 --> 00:07:20,514 we did nothing. 206 00:07:20,895 --> 00:07:23,535 We let them murder about 700,000 207 00:07:23,535 --> 00:07:25,694 people in Nanking in 1937, 208 00:07:25,694 --> 00:07:26,754 and we did nothing. 209 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,600 And then suddenly on 12/07/1941, 210 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,819 they attacked us. 211 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:33,800 So when you talk about a war of 212 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,300 choice, 213 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,319 sometimes the war of choice means they're going 214 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:38,460 to come after you 215 00:07:38,854 --> 00:07:41,095 at some point. And do you fight them 216 00:07:41,095 --> 00:07:42,774 when they're weaker or do you fight them 217 00:07:42,774 --> 00:07:44,454 when they're stronger? Do you fight them when 218 00:07:44,454 --> 00:07:45,675 they have a nuclear weapon? 219 00:07:46,694 --> 00:07:47,754 And and my, 220 00:07:48,615 --> 00:07:51,414 concern about Trump may not be because he's 221 00:07:51,414 --> 00:07:52,555 doing what he's doing, 222 00:07:53,099 --> 00:07:54,719 but he should have been explaining 223 00:07:55,180 --> 00:07:55,919 all along 224 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:57,439 what we're up against, 225 00:07:58,379 --> 00:07:59,740 and and the fact that, 226 00:08:00,379 --> 00:08:03,019 nobody is explaining what we're up against. And 227 00:08:03,019 --> 00:08:04,139 it's almost like these, 228 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:07,254 you know, some of these, you know, newscasters 229 00:08:07,475 --> 00:08:09,975 or military experts are looking like they're watching 230 00:08:10,514 --> 00:08:12,435 video games. Well, look what we did this. 231 00:08:12,435 --> 00:08:13,894 Look. We we we did that, 232 00:08:14,675 --> 00:08:15,814 and and we forget 233 00:08:16,675 --> 00:08:19,394 that you remember during during Iraq war, the 234 00:08:19,394 --> 00:08:21,240 shock and awe that that we're supposed to 235 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,759 drop all these bombs and they were gonna 236 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:25,259 surrender? Yep. They never surrendered. Yeah. You know? 237 00:08:26,039 --> 00:08:27,979 When we kill these, leaders, 238 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:29,979 we're actually giving them 239 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:32,620 what they want because what is motivating, 240 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:34,335 these guys? 241 00:08:34,735 --> 00:08:37,475 According to, you know, their view of Islam, 242 00:08:38,975 --> 00:08:40,195 the the most important 243 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:42,575 concept in Islam is what's called the, 244 00:08:43,295 --> 00:08:44,975 the day of judgment. They call it the, 245 00:08:45,455 --> 00:08:46,675 the Yam Al 246 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:48,070 Kiama. 247 00:08:49,009 --> 00:08:50,929 And and on that day of judgment, everybody 248 00:08:50,929 --> 00:08:53,350 dies, and you're either gonna go to paradise, 249 00:08:53,809 --> 00:08:56,309 which is Jannah, or they're gonna go to 250 00:08:56,610 --> 00:08:57,990 eternal hell files 251 00:08:58,690 --> 00:09:00,549 hell fires. You know, Jahanim, 252 00:09:00,850 --> 00:09:02,654 I think they call them. Him. And and 253 00:09:02,654 --> 00:09:04,495 so how do you get to heaven? Well, 254 00:09:04,495 --> 00:09:06,575 you're supposed to do or paradise is supposed 255 00:09:06,575 --> 00:09:08,735 to do all these wonderful things, but most 256 00:09:08,735 --> 00:09:11,375 people don't. Most people have sinned. They've done 257 00:09:11,375 --> 00:09:13,774 things wrong. They didn't follow the teachings of 258 00:09:13,774 --> 00:09:14,274 Muhammad. 259 00:09:14,669 --> 00:09:16,350 So what's a sure way to get into 260 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:18,909 heaven anyway or to paradise? And the answer 261 00:09:18,909 --> 00:09:20,769 is if you die while doing jihad, 262 00:09:21,149 --> 00:09:23,169 all your sins are instantly forgiven, 263 00:09:23,789 --> 00:09:26,750 and you instantly spend eternity in paradise complete 264 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:28,125 with your 72 virgins. 265 00:09:28,684 --> 00:09:30,365 So what you have is all these people 266 00:09:30,365 --> 00:09:33,884 we're we're killing, we're doing everything they want. 267 00:09:33,884 --> 00:09:36,304 You know, they they're we're fulfilling their dreams. 268 00:09:36,605 --> 00:09:38,365 And they're, you know, for everyone we kill, 269 00:09:38,365 --> 00:09:39,264 we have 20 270 00:09:39,644 --> 00:09:41,565 that are eager to take their place because 271 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:43,485 they want the same thing. And we're laughing 272 00:09:43,485 --> 00:09:45,959 and joking like we're achieving something. 273 00:09:46,579 --> 00:09:46,980 But, 274 00:09:47,459 --> 00:09:49,699 you know, it you're you're either gonna defeat 275 00:09:49,699 --> 00:09:50,519 them completely 276 00:09:51,379 --> 00:09:54,019 or they're gonna wear down wear us down. 277 00:09:54,019 --> 00:09:56,115 And it's just like with Germany and Japan. 278 00:09:57,075 --> 00:09:59,315 You know, suppose we do nothing. Well, we 279 00:09:59,315 --> 00:10:01,894 let them take over let them destroy Israel. 280 00:10:01,955 --> 00:10:02,855 Let them destroy 281 00:10:03,235 --> 00:10:04,995 all these countries in the Middle East. Let 282 00:10:04,995 --> 00:10:06,995 them kill all the Christians in Nigeria. Let 283 00:10:06,995 --> 00:10:09,269 them take over Africa. At some 284 00:10:09,649 --> 00:10:11,269 point, they're gonna be here. 285 00:10:11,889 --> 00:10:14,129 And, we're not preparing our kids, and we're 286 00:10:14,129 --> 00:10:15,190 not preparing anybody, 287 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:19,110 as to how dangerous these people are. Well, 288 00:10:19,169 --> 00:10:20,850 I said it. They have no value for 289 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:23,169 life, and you just proved it with what 290 00:10:23,169 --> 00:10:24,105 you were talking about. 291 00:10:24,745 --> 00:10:26,445 Yeah. They really don't value 292 00:10:27,065 --> 00:10:28,764 like, there's glory in death. 293 00:10:29,945 --> 00:10:32,424 And by the way, what I just told 294 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:34,264 you is exactly I know I bring this 295 00:10:34,264 --> 00:10:36,600 up over and over again, but that young 296 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,100 man, 297 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:39,480 that came and I'm I can't think of 298 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,919 his name right right now. The one who 299 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:41,899 grew up in Margate, 300 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,000 graduated Atlantic City High School in 2010 301 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,159 and then joined and became a leader of 302 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:49,580 the Islamic State. He made a video 303 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:52,745 addressed to all, you know, Muslim kids in 304 00:10:52,745 --> 00:10:54,904 America saying that same thing. You know, how 305 00:10:54,904 --> 00:10:56,044 to avoid hellfire? 306 00:10:56,664 --> 00:11:00,184 Easy. Get yourself killed, killing, infidels in the 307 00:11:00,184 --> 00:11:02,504 jihad, and you don't have to worry about 308 00:11:02,504 --> 00:11:04,105 sin. You don't have to worry about being 309 00:11:04,105 --> 00:11:06,480 a failure. Suddenly, you're you're you're an instant 310 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:06,980 success. 311 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,519 Anyway, be let before I get too depressed, 312 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:11,059 let me talk about 313 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:14,259 what's going on now. Of course, in our, 314 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,039 we talked about last week the Egg Harbor 315 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:19,679 Public Schools, they're going $36,000,000 316 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,500 into debt 317 00:11:20,804 --> 00:11:23,365 to do routine maintenance for their schools. And, 318 00:11:23,365 --> 00:11:25,544 of course, they engineered it with that referendum. 319 00:11:26,404 --> 00:11:28,245 They could the school board could have put 320 00:11:28,245 --> 00:11:29,945 this on the ballot last November 321 00:11:30,404 --> 00:11:32,085 when you had 18,000 322 00:11:32,085 --> 00:11:32,904 people voting, 323 00:11:33,230 --> 00:11:35,550 But they knew that most taxpayers at Carver 324 00:11:35,550 --> 00:11:37,649 Township would vote against borrowing the money, 325 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:40,509 and so they hold a special election on 326 00:11:40,509 --> 00:11:42,910 March 10 when only 2,400 327 00:11:42,910 --> 00:11:44,990 people turned out. And, of course, they got 328 00:11:44,990 --> 00:11:48,184 1,400 votes like a tiny percentage, but that's 329 00:11:48,184 --> 00:11:50,284 enough to borrow the $36,000,000. 330 00:11:50,985 --> 00:11:52,684 But let's look at the big picture. 331 00:11:53,384 --> 00:11:55,804 Why is it that schools are so unaffordable? 332 00:11:56,664 --> 00:11:58,365 When we boomers were young, 333 00:11:58,745 --> 00:12:01,169 everybody had lots of kids. There were lots 334 00:12:01,169 --> 00:12:03,669 of schools. You only had one parent working. 335 00:12:03,970 --> 00:12:06,210 You know, one parent could could afford a 336 00:12:06,210 --> 00:12:08,870 good house. One one parent could afford the, 337 00:12:09,169 --> 00:12:11,570 property taxes. There was no sales tax. There 338 00:12:11,570 --> 00:12:12,129 was no, 339 00:12:13,169 --> 00:12:14,309 state income tax, 340 00:12:15,595 --> 00:12:17,214 and and everything was fine. 341 00:12:17,674 --> 00:12:21,054 Today, it now costs $25,000 342 00:12:21,355 --> 00:12:22,095 each year 343 00:12:22,475 --> 00:12:25,294 to educate one child in our public schools. 344 00:12:25,754 --> 00:12:28,154 So you're looking at one classroom with 20 345 00:12:28,154 --> 00:12:30,670 kids in it, and that's costing a half 346 00:12:30,670 --> 00:12:31,710 $1,000,000 347 00:12:31,710 --> 00:12:32,370 a year. 348 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:35,790 So look at the arithmetic. You you have 349 00:12:35,790 --> 00:12:36,910 a 300,000 350 00:12:36,910 --> 00:12:37,410 house. 351 00:12:37,950 --> 00:12:39,950 So a $300,000 352 00:12:39,950 --> 00:12:43,544 house in typical suburb would pay maybe $89,000 353 00:12:43,544 --> 00:12:44,845 a year in property taxes. 354 00:12:45,625 --> 00:12:48,125 But suppose that family has two kids. 355 00:12:48,824 --> 00:12:51,485 Those two kids are costing the the town 356 00:12:51,865 --> 00:12:52,985 $50,000 357 00:12:52,985 --> 00:12:54,824 a year just for the schools, not for 358 00:12:54,824 --> 00:12:55,649 anything else. 359 00:12:56,129 --> 00:12:58,450 So right away, every time you have a 360 00:12:58,450 --> 00:13:00,690 house with two kids in it, the town 361 00:13:00,690 --> 00:13:02,370 is losing $42,000 362 00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:03,509 a year on that family. 363 00:13:04,129 --> 00:13:05,509 So that's why every 364 00:13:06,050 --> 00:13:09,170 it's every town, every politician, it's the, the 365 00:13:09,170 --> 00:13:11,105 children of the enemy. We have to have 366 00:13:11,105 --> 00:13:13,024 zoning laws to keep our children, you know, 367 00:13:13,024 --> 00:13:15,284 just have senior citizen only places. 368 00:13:15,904 --> 00:13:18,245 And, to keep the property taxes down, 369 00:13:18,865 --> 00:13:20,384 look what we've been doing for the past 370 00:13:20,384 --> 00:13:21,205 fifty years. 371 00:13:21,664 --> 00:13:23,825 To pay for these schools, first, we had 372 00:13:23,825 --> 00:13:26,620 a sales tax. That wasn't enough. Then we 373 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:28,860 had a state income tax, and that wasn't 374 00:13:28,860 --> 00:13:29,360 enough. 375 00:13:29,819 --> 00:13:32,299 Then we had Jimmy Carter, you know, promise 376 00:13:32,299 --> 00:13:34,319 to set up a federal department of education 377 00:13:34,459 --> 00:13:36,860 to give us federal money, and that's not 378 00:13:36,860 --> 00:13:37,360 enough. 379 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:40,319 And now, Egg Harbor Township has to borrow 380 00:13:40,644 --> 00:13:41,845 $36,000,000 381 00:13:41,845 --> 00:13:43,684 just to sort of, you know, fix the 382 00:13:43,684 --> 00:13:46,164 leaks in the roof and and and and 383 00:13:46,164 --> 00:13:48,565 replace the equipment that's gone. I mean, this 384 00:13:48,565 --> 00:13:49,625 is not sustainable. 385 00:13:50,565 --> 00:13:54,105 But will anybody, any Republican or Democrat say, 386 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,600 we can't do this anymore. We have to 387 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,820 do something that's different. 388 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,000 And that's what we talk about at libertyandprosperity.com. 389 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,919 That's why I invite we invite people to 390 00:14:02,919 --> 00:14:04,839 join us and come to our meetings and 391 00:14:04,839 --> 00:14:05,820 propose solutions 392 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,419 and get the word out. 393 00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:09,534 You know, 25,000 394 00:14:09,534 --> 00:14:11,394 a year, that is a lot of money. 395 00:14:12,014 --> 00:14:14,995 There are private high schools and private schools 396 00:14:15,695 --> 00:14:18,095 in this country that that charge that, but 397 00:14:18,095 --> 00:14:20,274 they're they're giving a top notch education. 398 00:14:20,815 --> 00:14:22,575 How come it costs so much? That that 399 00:14:22,654 --> 00:14:23,715 that's my question. 400 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:25,909 Well, I mean, we could go into a 401 00:14:25,909 --> 00:14:27,669 whole whole take up a whole three hour 402 00:14:27,669 --> 00:14:29,750 program on that. Yeah. And it's because it's 403 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:31,129 not just the the union 404 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:32,789 salaries. It's it's, 405 00:14:33,589 --> 00:14:36,230 you know, one of the main problems is 406 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:38,069 the idea that if a kid is not 407 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:38,970 getting an education, 408 00:14:39,485 --> 00:14:41,644 it's the school's fault. We're not spending enough 409 00:14:41,644 --> 00:14:43,404 money. We don't have a program to reach 410 00:14:43,404 --> 00:14:44,065 that kid. 411 00:14:44,445 --> 00:14:46,524 So if you have one kid who's disrupting 412 00:14:46,524 --> 00:14:47,105 a class, 413 00:14:47,565 --> 00:14:49,485 we now have to get a special tutor 414 00:14:49,485 --> 00:14:52,365 for that kid, and we're spending $80,000 415 00:14:52,365 --> 00:14:53,345 for one kid, 416 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:56,340 to get his special education. And so what 417 00:14:56,340 --> 00:14:58,420 the administrator says, well, we can't afford to 418 00:14:58,420 --> 00:15:00,740 have that kid, get $80,000. 419 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:02,660 So just leave him in the classroom. You 420 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:04,340 leave him in the classroom, he disrupts the 421 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:07,184 whole class, and then now nobody's learning. So, 422 00:15:07,504 --> 00:15:09,264 we have to look at what we did 423 00:15:09,264 --> 00:15:10,004 as boomers 424 00:15:10,384 --> 00:15:11,024 and maybe, 425 00:15:11,504 --> 00:15:12,965 get back to to that. 426 00:15:13,504 --> 00:15:15,184 Meanwhile, there's one other point I wanted to, 427 00:15:15,424 --> 00:15:15,924 compare, 428 00:15:16,384 --> 00:15:18,384 and that is what's going on in Ocean 429 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:18,870 City 430 00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:22,009 with the, you know, the hotel where Wonderland 431 00:15:22,149 --> 00:15:23,289 Pier used to be 432 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:25,929 and Baterfield in Atlantic City. 433 00:15:26,309 --> 00:15:29,049 Because in a way, they're both totally related. 434 00:15:29,830 --> 00:15:33,049 Baterfield has been empty for thirty years. Why? 435 00:15:33,554 --> 00:15:35,955 Because, it used to be an airport. We 436 00:15:35,955 --> 00:15:37,575 don't need it for an airport anymore. 437 00:15:37,955 --> 00:15:40,195 And the town and the the local government, 438 00:15:40,195 --> 00:15:42,914 the state's been spending thirty years looking for 439 00:15:42,914 --> 00:15:44,695 the perfect use for the property. 440 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,779 And be by looking for the perfect use, 441 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:50,159 they found no use, and it's been empty. 442 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:51,600 And look at all the money we we 443 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,100 lost. 444 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,639 So it used to be we had a 445 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:55,779 very simple rule 446 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:56,559 with, 447 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,120 property owned by the government. We said, is 448 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,659 it used for public use 449 00:16:01,134 --> 00:16:02,834 or not used for public use? 450 00:16:03,294 --> 00:16:05,534 Now it used to be used for public 451 00:16:05,534 --> 00:16:06,514 use as an airport. 452 00:16:07,134 --> 00:16:09,294 The minute they decided they didn't need it 453 00:16:09,294 --> 00:16:11,954 for an airport anymore in 1996, 454 00:16:12,334 --> 00:16:13,394 thirty years ago, 455 00:16:13,860 --> 00:16:15,299 all the city had to do was we 456 00:16:15,299 --> 00:16:17,379 say, we declare it's not needed for public 457 00:16:17,379 --> 00:16:17,879 use, 458 00:16:18,259 --> 00:16:19,720 sell it to the highest bidder. 459 00:16:20,419 --> 00:16:22,899 And what should it be used for? It's 460 00:16:22,899 --> 00:16:24,820 none of our business. It should be whoever 461 00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:26,500 is willing to spend all that money for 462 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:28,995 that land, let them decide what to do. 463 00:16:29,714 --> 00:16:31,235 Now you can make rules as what you 464 00:16:31,235 --> 00:16:32,455 don't want it to be, 465 00:16:32,835 --> 00:16:34,754 but if they would have sold that building 466 00:16:34,754 --> 00:16:36,855 for, that if they would have sold Baderfield 467 00:16:37,394 --> 00:16:38,455 for $50 468 00:16:38,595 --> 00:16:39,575 thirty years ago, 469 00:16:40,034 --> 00:16:41,815 they would have collected more taxes 470 00:16:42,595 --> 00:16:45,139 in thirty years than they're gonna get from 471 00:16:45,139 --> 00:16:47,399 all these grandiose plans they have now. 472 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:49,539 And it's the same thing with what's going 473 00:16:49,539 --> 00:16:50,019 on in, 474 00:16:50,659 --> 00:16:53,459 in Wonderland Pier. You know, what's the perfect 475 00:16:53,459 --> 00:16:54,519 use for the property? 476 00:16:54,899 --> 00:16:56,419 Well, if you ask anyone in Ocean City, 477 00:16:56,419 --> 00:16:57,860 you said, well, it should be an amusement 478 00:16:57,860 --> 00:17:00,475 park. But it can't be an amusement park 479 00:17:00,475 --> 00:17:03,434 because it lost money for everybody who tried 480 00:17:03,434 --> 00:17:04,795 to do it. It has to be something 481 00:17:04,795 --> 00:17:05,295 else. 482 00:17:05,674 --> 00:17:07,134 Well, what else could it be? 483 00:17:07,434 --> 00:17:09,434 Well, why not let the person who's willing 484 00:17:09,434 --> 00:17:11,134 to spend the money to buy it 485 00:17:11,509 --> 00:17:13,589 and invest it and spend their, you know, 486 00:17:13,589 --> 00:17:14,809 years of their life, 487 00:17:15,509 --> 00:17:17,769 making something work, let them decide. 488 00:17:18,149 --> 00:17:20,149 But once you let the so called public 489 00:17:20,149 --> 00:17:20,649 decide, 490 00:17:21,109 --> 00:17:23,049 people who call themselves stakeholders, 491 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:25,669 even though they they didn't put a dime 492 00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:26,569 into the property 493 00:17:26,894 --> 00:17:29,134 and let them decide what, I don't like 494 00:17:29,134 --> 00:17:30,654 this. No. I don't like that. I don't 495 00:17:30,654 --> 00:17:32,974 like this. By time you get, you know, 496 00:17:32,974 --> 00:17:35,695 ten thousand people to agree on something, another 497 00:17:35,855 --> 00:17:37,375 you know, you'd all have thirty years go 498 00:17:37,375 --> 00:17:39,234 by just like Atlantic City with Baderfield. 499 00:17:39,919 --> 00:17:42,400 So, anyway, we have to think about, why 500 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,299 we have private 501 00:17:43,599 --> 00:17:44,099 property. 502 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,599 Because only the owners of of property, own 503 00:17:47,599 --> 00:17:49,140 only the people who invest 504 00:17:49,519 --> 00:17:52,240 and have something to either gain or lose 505 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,179 if the project succeeds or fail, 506 00:17:54,505 --> 00:17:55,804 they should make the decision, 507 00:17:56,265 --> 00:17:58,345 not people who have nothing to do with 508 00:17:58,345 --> 00:18:00,284 it, who don't know anything about it. 509 00:18:00,825 --> 00:18:03,224 That's what made our free enterprise system work 510 00:18:03,224 --> 00:18:03,964 in America, 511 00:18:04,265 --> 00:18:06,585 and that's why socialism has been a disaster 512 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:08,265 everywhere else in the world when it's been 513 00:18:08,265 --> 00:18:11,529 tried. Anyway, we'll be talking about that, again, 514 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:14,070 if you're listening on a Saturday, every Saturday 515 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:15,130 morning, 09:30 516 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:17,049 at Sal's Coal Fired Pizza, 517 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:20,150 in Somers Point. There's no admission. Just pay 518 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:22,410 for your own breakfast, and tip your server, 519 00:18:22,734 --> 00:18:24,034 They'll order off the menu. 520 00:18:24,414 --> 00:18:26,095 And if you wanna learn more about us, 521 00:18:26,095 --> 00:18:28,355 go to libertyandprosperity.com 522 00:18:28,414 --> 00:18:31,375 and subscribe to our free weekly email updates. 523 00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:34,215 Thank you. Thanks, Seth. As always, good stuff. 524 00:18:34,215 --> 00:18:35,996 Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity. 525 00:18:36,375 --> 00:18:38,855 The meeting starts at 09:30. Sal's Coal Fired 526 00:18:38,855 --> 00:18:43,596 Pizza in Somers Point. 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