1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Brian Fitzherbert, who you, hear every Friday at 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,900 11AM 3 00:00:05,359 --> 00:00:07,700 with Ann Baker. Fitzherbert, Friday. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,500 He was on with Ann today with Paul, 5 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:12,179 Conatra, 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,779 excuse me, on the pronunciation, 7 00:00:15,505 --> 00:00:15,984 and, 8 00:00:17,265 --> 00:00:20,385 assemblyman Paul Kanatra. This Monday, there's a big 9 00:00:20,385 --> 00:00:21,844 rally up in Trenton. 10 00:00:22,785 --> 00:00:25,184 And, on top of the big rally that's 11 00:00:25,184 --> 00:00:26,625 coming up in Trenton on Monday 12 00:00:27,369 --> 00:00:29,289 and there's a lot of great participants in 13 00:00:29,289 --> 00:00:31,289 this, folks, and it's all about getting back 14 00:00:31,289 --> 00:00:33,770 New Jersey, getting it back, getting the, fiscal 15 00:00:33,770 --> 00:00:35,149 house house in order. 16 00:00:35,850 --> 00:00:36,590 Paul Kinatra 17 00:00:37,449 --> 00:00:40,109 has a video online that's gone viral 18 00:00:40,745 --> 00:00:43,804 where he's addressing the assembly and basically, 19 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:46,664 calling everybody to task on what they've done 20 00:00:46,664 --> 00:00:49,065 to the state. So having said that and, 21 00:00:49,065 --> 00:00:51,304 of course, he was on with, with, Anne 22 00:00:51,304 --> 00:00:51,804 Baker 23 00:00:52,344 --> 00:00:54,344 earlier today as well. But the issue too 24 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:56,579 important, glad to have them both back with 25 00:00:56,579 --> 00:00:57,079 me 26 00:00:57,700 --> 00:00:59,539 on the program. Paul, for the first time, 27 00:00:59,539 --> 00:01:01,140 Brian, of course, has been with me before. 28 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:03,060 Gentlemen, thanks so much for taking time out 29 00:01:03,060 --> 00:01:04,599 of your day to join us again 30 00:01:05,060 --> 00:01:06,979 on this program. Paul, thanks to you for 31 00:01:06,979 --> 00:01:09,079 joining us for the first time. Appreciate it. 32 00:01:09,745 --> 00:01:11,505 What's going on, Dan? Great to be here. 33 00:01:11,505 --> 00:01:13,185 Yeah. It's good to have you both. And 34 00:01:13,185 --> 00:01:15,745 we have in the studio also Keith Hartsell, 35 00:01:15,745 --> 00:01:18,385 who's my regular Friday cohost, and he's in 36 00:01:18,385 --> 00:01:21,185 addition to being my regular Friday cohost. He's 37 00:01:21,185 --> 00:01:22,564 an Ocean City councilman 38 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:25,019 as well, and so he'll he's in a 39 00:01:25,019 --> 00:01:27,420 studio too. So let's you know, time is 40 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:28,239 of the essence. 41 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:30,939 We have plenty of time in this first 42 00:01:30,939 --> 00:01:31,439 hour, 43 00:01:31,819 --> 00:01:33,500 but I wanna get right to the crux. 44 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:35,519 Be before we get to the rally 45 00:01:36,219 --> 00:01:36,959 on Monday, 46 00:01:37,694 --> 00:01:39,875 Paul, talk a little bit about the temperament 47 00:01:39,935 --> 00:01:42,094 of the New Jersey assembly. You cut a 48 00:01:42,094 --> 00:01:42,594 video, 49 00:01:43,135 --> 00:01:44,895 might have been even last week. I don't 50 00:01:44,895 --> 00:01:46,915 know. Wednesday or Thursday. 51 00:01:47,615 --> 00:01:49,534 You're sitting at the dais, I believe, and 52 00:01:49,534 --> 00:01:51,534 you're addressing the assembly, and you're talking about 53 00:01:51,534 --> 00:01:53,750 a variety of topics, immigration being one of 54 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:54,250 them. 55 00:01:54,549 --> 00:01:56,469 Talk to this audience about what you were 56 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:58,150 sharing with the assembly on that day, if 57 00:01:58,150 --> 00:01:59,049 you don't mind. 58 00:01:59,909 --> 00:02:02,310 Yeah. Yeah. And and that's just the, the 59 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:03,209 most recent, 60 00:02:03,829 --> 00:02:07,185 time that, I was cut off and prevented 61 00:02:07,244 --> 00:02:09,905 from asking questions and and saying 62 00:02:10,205 --> 00:02:11,185 important information. 63 00:02:12,044 --> 00:02:13,745 You know, our our assembly 64 00:02:14,284 --> 00:02:14,784 is, 65 00:02:15,324 --> 00:02:17,405 extreme to say the least. You know, out 66 00:02:17,405 --> 00:02:18,944 of 80 seats now, 67 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,879 Republicans only hold 23 of them. And as 68 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:23,460 a result, 69 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,040 I think they feel like they're kings in 70 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,099 the state house. 71 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,560 And, you know, they expect things to go 72 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,800 a certain way. They haven't lost a vote 73 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,260 on the floor of the assembly 74 00:02:34,784 --> 00:02:37,025 in twenty years, and I think they're also 75 00:02:37,025 --> 00:02:39,824 used to Republicans being somewhat quiet. We have 76 00:02:39,824 --> 00:02:40,724 a couple people, 77 00:02:41,104 --> 00:02:44,145 in our caucus, especially freshman members that have 78 00:02:44,145 --> 00:02:45,824 been speaking up more and more. I don't 79 00:02:45,824 --> 00:02:48,245 think the Democrats really know how to handle, 80 00:02:48,789 --> 00:02:51,189 what's been growing in terms of the fight 81 00:02:51,189 --> 00:02:52,889 that's been coming from us 82 00:02:53,189 --> 00:02:55,209 despite our shrinking numbers, 83 00:02:55,590 --> 00:02:57,909 and it really has reached the boiling point 84 00:02:57,909 --> 00:03:00,229 over the last couple months. At the end 85 00:03:00,229 --> 00:03:01,370 of the last session 86 00:03:02,135 --> 00:03:02,875 in January, 87 00:03:03,254 --> 00:03:04,314 the night before, 88 00:03:05,094 --> 00:03:07,175 we went out and the new session of 89 00:03:07,175 --> 00:03:09,335 the legislature was sworn in, the speaker of 90 00:03:09,335 --> 00:03:09,915 the assembly, 91 00:03:10,935 --> 00:03:12,935 threatened to shut my mic off and cut 92 00:03:12,935 --> 00:03:14,955 me off because I brought out a poster, 93 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:16,219 showing all the, 94 00:03:16,859 --> 00:03:19,739 the crimes committed by, illegal aliens in the 95 00:03:19,739 --> 00:03:22,159 state, and I was talking about the cost 96 00:03:22,459 --> 00:03:25,359 of illegal immigration in the state. The governor 97 00:03:25,419 --> 00:03:26,400 pocket vetoed, 98 00:03:27,259 --> 00:03:28,560 two of those bills, 99 00:03:29,004 --> 00:03:31,165 and then we got right back into it 100 00:03:31,165 --> 00:03:33,324 with the new governor and the new session 101 00:03:33,324 --> 00:03:34,145 of the legislature 102 00:03:34,925 --> 00:03:37,004 last week. And what you saw in that 103 00:03:37,004 --> 00:03:37,504 video 104 00:03:37,805 --> 00:03:41,025 was in the public safety, public preparedness committee, 105 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:43,379 where they were bringing two of the bills 106 00:03:43,379 --> 00:03:45,699 plus a bill to make it illegal for, 107 00:03:46,020 --> 00:03:48,500 federal law enforcement to wear any kind of 108 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:50,520 masks even if they're in danger. 109 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:54,500 It's incredible. And, and the chairman didn't like 110 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:57,000 the answers that, I was getting, 111 00:03:57,405 --> 00:03:58,144 didn't like, 112 00:03:58,444 --> 00:04:00,604 the fact that we were fighting. So he, 113 00:04:01,004 --> 00:04:03,504 stopped me from asking any more questions 114 00:04:04,125 --> 00:04:06,064 and, and cut my mic off. 115 00:04:07,004 --> 00:04:09,579 When when you're you know, you are in 116 00:04:09,579 --> 00:04:11,180 there, and, Brian, I'm I'm gonna come to 117 00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:12,699 you for an opening comment as well. But 118 00:04:12,699 --> 00:04:14,639 I just real quick, I wanna ask this. 119 00:04:14,939 --> 00:04:16,860 You know the temperament that's in there in 120 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:19,660 the legislature, the 80 seats. You got 57 121 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:20,160 Democrats. 122 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:22,879 How do they defend 123 00:04:23,754 --> 00:04:25,535 when you bring up this list 124 00:04:26,074 --> 00:04:28,074 and you show them the facts? This is 125 00:04:28,074 --> 00:04:30,574 what's going on, murders, rapes. They don't. 126 00:04:31,035 --> 00:04:33,274 They don't. They don't they don't defend it. 127 00:04:33,274 --> 00:04:36,634 There there is no there is no true 128 00:04:36,634 --> 00:04:38,979 debate in that state house. I'll give you 129 00:04:38,979 --> 00:04:40,519 a perfect example. Anytime 130 00:04:40,979 --> 00:04:43,699 an extreme bill comes up and Republicans go 131 00:04:43,699 --> 00:04:44,979 to fight it on the floor of the 132 00:04:44,979 --> 00:04:46,599 assembly, we ask the question, 133 00:04:46,899 --> 00:04:48,899 will the sponsor of the bill yield for 134 00:04:48,899 --> 00:04:49,560 a question? 135 00:04:49,954 --> 00:04:52,194 I've been there for two years. Nobody's yielded 136 00:04:52,194 --> 00:04:54,915 for a question on anything meaningful. They won't 137 00:04:54,915 --> 00:04:56,595 even take questions. Well, I thought the whole 138 00:04:56,754 --> 00:04:58,514 when you turn Yeah. Not to cut you 139 00:04:58,514 --> 00:05:00,675 off, Paul, but I thought the whole purpose 140 00:05:00,675 --> 00:05:02,995 of the assembly on these bills is to 141 00:05:02,995 --> 00:05:05,095 debate the bills back and forth. 142 00:05:06,290 --> 00:05:08,770 That that's what our founding fathers want. That's 143 00:05:08,770 --> 00:05:11,730 not what today's 2,026 144 00:05:11,730 --> 00:05:14,770 Democrats want. They don't have answers to the 145 00:05:14,770 --> 00:05:17,170 question. So when you don't have answers to 146 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:19,270 the questions, and we'll get into the cost 147 00:05:19,435 --> 00:05:21,675 and the extremism of it all in in 148 00:05:21,675 --> 00:05:23,675 a little bit. But when you don't have 149 00:05:23,675 --> 00:05:26,074 answers, they don't want anything to be asked 150 00:05:26,074 --> 00:05:28,495 because they can't justify their action. 151 00:05:29,194 --> 00:05:31,035 I'll tell you what. I I hear an 152 00:05:31,035 --> 00:05:32,875 ad right there. When you don't have answers 153 00:05:32,875 --> 00:05:35,480 to the questions, basically, you just run a 154 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,779 rough shot over everybody 155 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,399 and shut them down so they can't ask 156 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:40,060 any questions. 157 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:42,839 Brian Fitzherbert, thanks for taking time out of 158 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,000 your day. Double duty today on with Anne, 159 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,240 both of you, really. On with Anne earlier 160 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,574 today and back with us today. Brian, good 161 00:05:49,574 --> 00:05:51,334 to have you back. Your comments on some 162 00:05:51,334 --> 00:05:53,035 of the things you've heard so far? 163 00:05:53,814 --> 00:05:56,615 Now, look, Assemblyman Knoecher has been leading this 164 00:05:56,615 --> 00:05:59,115 from, the minute he got into the legislature. 165 00:05:59,334 --> 00:06:01,194 His office wrote an entire, 166 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:04,919 report about illegal immigration. The fact that there 167 00:06:04,919 --> 00:06:06,439 are 900,000 168 00:06:06,439 --> 00:06:09,079 illegal aliens in the state of New Jersey 169 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:09,579 costing 170 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,540 taxpayers 171 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,639 roughly 7 to $8,000,000,000, 172 00:06:13,639 --> 00:06:14,860 nearly 10% 173 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,379 of the annual budget, 174 00:06:17,165 --> 00:06:19,824 in which amounts to about $1,600 175 00:06:19,884 --> 00:06:22,685 per taxpayer. This is ridiculous. And to his 176 00:06:22,685 --> 00:06:25,324 point and your point, the Democrats, all they 177 00:06:25,324 --> 00:06:27,245 do is they got a super majority. They 178 00:06:27,245 --> 00:06:28,845 have a super majority in the assembly. They've 179 00:06:28,845 --> 00:06:30,205 got the governor eventually. They got a super 180 00:06:30,205 --> 00:06:31,980 majority in the senate, and all they have 181 00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:33,900 to do is count. And you tell a 182 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:36,779 lie enough times, people start to believe it. 183 00:06:36,779 --> 00:06:38,560 The same thing is a lie of omission. 184 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:41,420 By not even acknowledging it or having the 185 00:06:41,420 --> 00:06:43,420 debate that's necessary, it puts them on their 186 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:45,704 heels. So instead of having a debate, they 187 00:06:45,704 --> 00:06:48,745 cut off the microphone of assemblyman Kanitra. So 188 00:06:48,745 --> 00:06:50,824 this is this is just getting to a 189 00:06:50,824 --> 00:06:52,125 point of, absurdity. 190 00:06:53,144 --> 00:06:56,345 And, obviously, our new governor is too stupid 191 00:06:56,345 --> 00:06:59,225 to realize the supremacy clause that you cannot 192 00:06:59,225 --> 00:06:59,725 regulate 193 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:02,580 federal law when it comes to The United 194 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:04,580 States and the constitution. So she should go 195 00:07:04,580 --> 00:07:06,180 back to school and probably read up on 196 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:08,339 the constitution. And so that'll come to an 197 00:07:08,339 --> 00:07:09,480 head, and, of course, 198 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:11,939 the the state has to acquiesce to the 199 00:07:11,939 --> 00:07:12,439 federal 200 00:07:13,024 --> 00:07:15,264 government on that issue at some point or 201 00:07:15,264 --> 00:07:17,024 at least you would think so. Of course, 202 00:07:17,024 --> 00:07:19,104 we have the Supreme Court coming down today 203 00:07:19,104 --> 00:07:19,604 against 204 00:07:19,904 --> 00:07:21,985 the Trump tariffs. But to everybody out there 205 00:07:21,985 --> 00:07:23,904 real quick who thinks it's all done, it's 206 00:07:23,904 --> 00:07:24,644 not done. 207 00:07:25,185 --> 00:07:28,610 Noted constitutional attorney Jonathan Turley has said, and 208 00:07:28,610 --> 00:07:31,490 Trump president Trump himself has reiterated today as 209 00:07:31,490 --> 00:07:33,990 well. He has other tools in his toolbox 210 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:36,370 to keep those tariffs in place. So they're 211 00:07:36,370 --> 00:07:38,550 not going they're not not going away 212 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:41,490 anytime soon. Alright, gentlemen. Let's get back to 213 00:07:41,490 --> 00:07:43,774 the issue of the day. It sounds doom 214 00:07:43,774 --> 00:07:45,854 and gloomy, and, Keith, you're welcome to jump 215 00:07:45,854 --> 00:07:48,254 in on anything as well. It sounds doom 216 00:07:48,254 --> 00:07:48,995 and gloomy. 217 00:07:49,375 --> 00:07:52,034 It's fifty seven twenty three in the assembly. 218 00:07:52,894 --> 00:07:53,954 I think the senate, 219 00:07:54,495 --> 00:07:57,555 is, the the republic 15. Twenty five fifteen. 220 00:07:58,159 --> 00:07:59,360 So the mountain is high. Alright? 221 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:03,699 You know, and we gotta deal with today. 222 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:05,439 Obviously, we gotta deal with what we gotta 223 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:06,800 deal with today. And then at the same 224 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,240 time, we're dealing with what we gotta deal 225 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,000 with it. We gotta plan for the future 226 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,539 and try and change the trajectory. 227 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,779 Paul, what do you think 228 00:08:14,454 --> 00:08:16,294 is the plan? And I I mean, even 229 00:08:16,294 --> 00:08:18,394 a thumbnail you know, I know there's no 230 00:08:18,535 --> 00:08:21,175 plan plan on paper, bullet pointed list of 231 00:08:21,175 --> 00:08:23,914 things that gotta be done, probably should be. 232 00:08:24,214 --> 00:08:25,354 But in your estimation, 233 00:08:25,814 --> 00:08:27,654 what do you think is the immediate need, 234 00:08:27,654 --> 00:08:29,009 and what do you think has to be 235 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:31,110 done long term to change? 236 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:33,409 Because as far as I'm concerned, if you 237 00:08:33,409 --> 00:08:35,250 start telling the people in New Jersey what 238 00:08:35,250 --> 00:08:36,710 you just told this audience, 239 00:08:37,409 --> 00:08:39,330 most people are gonna say, hey. Hold on 240 00:08:39,330 --> 00:08:42,370 there, Baba Louie. That's not what we voted 241 00:08:42,370 --> 00:08:42,870 for, 242 00:08:43,295 --> 00:08:44,754 and they would probably change 243 00:08:45,215 --> 00:08:46,654 their vote or at least a lot of 244 00:08:46,654 --> 00:08:48,175 them would. So what do you think? What's 245 00:08:48,175 --> 00:08:50,355 the immediate need, and what's the, 246 00:08:51,055 --> 00:08:54,254 medium, intermediate need and long term need in 247 00:08:54,254 --> 00:08:55,235 terms of changing, 248 00:08:55,855 --> 00:08:57,535 the tenor of the state and getting it 249 00:08:57,535 --> 00:08:58,035 right? 250 00:08:59,009 --> 00:09:01,009 It's a it's a great question. And the 251 00:09:01,009 --> 00:09:02,149 reality is 252 00:09:02,690 --> 00:09:05,670 your listeners that are listening to talk radio 253 00:09:05,810 --> 00:09:07,670 are informed about the nuances 254 00:09:08,290 --> 00:09:10,690 of politics and what's going on in our 255 00:09:10,690 --> 00:09:11,190 government 256 00:09:11,595 --> 00:09:13,914 aren't really the ones that need to have 257 00:09:13,914 --> 00:09:17,214 anything changed. Right? They're already getting their information. 258 00:09:17,674 --> 00:09:20,095 They already want to to get the information, 259 00:09:20,315 --> 00:09:22,735 and they're forming their own opinions accordingly. 260 00:09:23,115 --> 00:09:25,434 But we've got a whole state of people 261 00:09:25,434 --> 00:09:28,959 out there who are either jaded because they're 262 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:31,519 so upset at how bad things have gotten 263 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,600 and they feel that there's no hope, or 264 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,659 they're just working 265 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:37,600 twelve, fourteen hours a day to put food 266 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,565 on the table and they don't have time 267 00:09:39,865 --> 00:09:42,184 to think about politics until they're in the 268 00:09:42,184 --> 00:09:45,065 voting booth. Right? And that's a big barrier 269 00:09:45,065 --> 00:09:48,044 to entry to us, especially when the mainstream 270 00:09:48,184 --> 00:09:51,464 media is genuinely against us. Yes. All the 271 00:09:51,464 --> 00:09:54,899 headlines to every story that you consume on 272 00:09:54,899 --> 00:09:55,639 the periphery 273 00:09:56,179 --> 00:09:59,080 are slanted with a certain agenda built in. 274 00:09:59,220 --> 00:10:01,000 The the reality is 275 00:10:01,379 --> 00:10:02,200 our messaging 276 00:10:02,659 --> 00:10:03,639 as a party 277 00:10:04,019 --> 00:10:06,440 and just for sane normal people 278 00:10:06,855 --> 00:10:09,654 needs to become more clear and concise, and 279 00:10:09,654 --> 00:10:11,034 it needs to be delivered 280 00:10:11,414 --> 00:10:13,274 in a more dynamic fashion. 281 00:10:13,654 --> 00:10:17,034 Most people get their news by scrolling through 282 00:10:17,095 --> 00:10:19,095 on their phone. Yeah. And if you don't 283 00:10:19,095 --> 00:10:20,154 grab their attention 284 00:10:20,534 --> 00:10:23,639 in the first six seconds, they're scrolling right 285 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:25,899 by you. And that's why we lost 286 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,980 despite the energy crisis. Who would have thought 287 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,279 that we had a state that during the 288 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:32,779 election, 289 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,639 people's energy bills were going up on average 290 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:36,465 $70, 291 00:10:36,545 --> 00:10:38,004 a $100 a 292 00:10:38,305 --> 00:10:40,465 month. And in the exit polling, they didn't 293 00:10:40,465 --> 00:10:42,545 know who the hell to blame even though 294 00:10:42,545 --> 00:10:45,845 Republicans haven't been in power for twenty years. 295 00:10:45,985 --> 00:10:49,045 Right? I mean, that alone shows the disconnect. 296 00:10:49,449 --> 00:10:51,289 I you know, we we can't have the 297 00:10:51,289 --> 00:10:53,149 same old stodgy candidate 298 00:10:53,610 --> 00:10:57,389 that don't excite anybody, can't convey any points, 299 00:10:57,850 --> 00:11:00,089 and don't bring any energy to the table 300 00:11:00,089 --> 00:11:03,144 because they're the real messengers out there. You 301 00:11:03,144 --> 00:11:05,945 know, we're lucky that we got energetic radio 302 00:11:05,945 --> 00:11:08,605 hosts like yourself and some of these online 303 00:11:08,904 --> 00:11:09,404 influencers, 304 00:11:09,945 --> 00:11:11,705 but we all have to do our part 305 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:13,404 because they only keep winning 306 00:11:13,865 --> 00:11:17,039 because people don't know what's going on, how 307 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:18,799 bad it really is, and how much of 308 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:20,399 it is their fault. Well, you know, and 309 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,159 I'm listening to you. As I'm listening to 310 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:24,080 you, I'm writing down because you're right. People 311 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,960 scroll through the headlines on Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, 312 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,454 wherever they're at. And the thing is, did 313 00:11:29,454 --> 00:11:31,774 you just run one ad that said, did 314 00:11:31,774 --> 00:11:35,134 you know that legal immigration costs you, you, 315 00:11:35,134 --> 00:11:37,134 you, and I would I would spell that 316 00:11:37,134 --> 00:11:38,674 out, you, you, 317 00:11:39,534 --> 00:11:41,134 you, $1,600 318 00:11:41,134 --> 00:11:42,195 out of your pocket. 319 00:11:42,649 --> 00:11:44,169 I mean, these are the things you've gotta 320 00:11:44,169 --> 00:11:46,649 be aggressive. I actually mentioned that as a 321 00:11:46,649 --> 00:11:49,049 result of the Cittarelli campaign, thought the messaging 322 00:11:49,049 --> 00:11:51,070 was off, thought they missed some opportunities 323 00:11:51,850 --> 00:11:53,450 with reaching out to you, and I put 324 00:11:53,450 --> 00:11:55,549 it at the feet of the state GOP 325 00:11:56,095 --> 00:11:56,914 at that time. 326 00:11:57,215 --> 00:11:58,575 So there's a lot of work to be 327 00:11:58,575 --> 00:12:00,414 done. Brian, there's a big, 328 00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:04,355 gathering on Monday at the State House. 329 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:07,615 I heard, on Anne's program, you guys were 330 00:12:07,615 --> 00:12:08,754 talking about it. TPUSA 331 00:12:09,215 --> 00:12:11,634 is gonna be there, representatives, I should say, 332 00:12:12,139 --> 00:12:14,299 other groups as well. Talk a little bit 333 00:12:14,299 --> 00:12:16,080 about this event that's happening Monday. 334 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,500 Yeah. So on top of that, moms for 335 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,460 liberty and other other like minded individuals and, 336 00:12:22,460 --> 00:12:25,565 you know, Assemblyman Connecture is organizing this. There's 337 00:12:25,565 --> 00:12:28,524 already been close to over 5,000 signatures that 338 00:12:28,524 --> 00:12:30,845 have signed the petition, and I'll I'll alley 339 00:12:30,845 --> 00:12:32,125 oop it back to him for more of 340 00:12:32,125 --> 00:12:34,464 the details. But it's Monday at Trenton 341 00:12:34,845 --> 00:12:36,845 in the annex or out by the annex. 342 00:12:37,085 --> 00:12:39,660 Assemblyman Knicker, give the rest of the And 343 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:41,580 and the assembly in connector also heard there 344 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:43,500 are now three bills in front that the 345 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:45,980 assembly is gonna be the assembly is gonna 346 00:12:45,980 --> 00:12:48,160 be considering on Monday as well 347 00:12:48,540 --> 00:12:50,620 related to immigration. Am I correct? Did I 348 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:51,360 hear correctly? 349 00:12:52,245 --> 00:12:53,625 That's what we're anticipating. 350 00:12:54,004 --> 00:12:56,164 Right now, I believe, and I haven't checked 351 00:12:56,164 --> 00:12:56,904 this morning, 352 00:12:57,285 --> 00:12:59,845 there is the ICE bill that, makes it 353 00:12:59,845 --> 00:13:02,825 illegal for federal agents to wear any masks. 354 00:13:02,965 --> 00:13:05,524 They passed the other two bills, one which 355 00:13:05,524 --> 00:13:07,225 codifies the attorney general's, 356 00:13:08,029 --> 00:13:11,169 sanctuary status directive and the other that prohibits, 357 00:13:11,870 --> 00:13:15,230 law enforcement from sharing any information with federal 358 00:13:15,230 --> 00:13:15,730 authorities. 359 00:13:16,189 --> 00:13:18,449 Those were passed out of committee. We anticipate 360 00:13:18,750 --> 00:13:20,205 they're gonna be brought up, 361 00:13:20,924 --> 00:13:23,565 and be placed on the, the schedule for 362 00:13:23,565 --> 00:13:26,045 Monday as well. So what we're we're really 363 00:13:26,045 --> 00:13:27,504 hoping with this rally 364 00:13:27,884 --> 00:13:30,764 is that we make a big stink, make 365 00:13:30,764 --> 00:13:31,745 a big noise, 366 00:13:32,365 --> 00:13:35,184 and show everybody that we're here to fight. 367 00:13:35,389 --> 00:13:37,870 And if all three of those bills are 368 00:13:37,870 --> 00:13:40,850 up, then everybody can walk into the gallery 369 00:13:40,909 --> 00:13:43,230 in the State House and be warm after 370 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:45,710 the rally and see for themselves how the 371 00:13:45,710 --> 00:13:48,269 sausage is made. If they only pass, try 372 00:13:48,269 --> 00:13:50,144 and pass one or two of them. At 373 00:13:50,144 --> 00:13:52,305 least we'll make some big noise for when 374 00:13:52,305 --> 00:13:54,325 they may come up in a couple weeks 375 00:13:54,465 --> 00:13:56,625 or even a couple months depending on all 376 00:13:56,625 --> 00:13:58,785 of it. But my hope is that with 377 00:13:58,785 --> 00:14:01,445 this rally, with the publicity that's been getting, 378 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:04,065 that maybe the speaker decides to pull one 379 00:14:04,065 --> 00:14:05,789 or two of those bills, and we only 380 00:14:05,789 --> 00:14:07,009 have one or two, 381 00:14:07,389 --> 00:14:10,110 on the actual schedule. But we've got, a 382 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:12,350 great lineup like Brian said. We've got a 383 00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:15,389 representative from Turning Point, got a representative from 384 00:14:15,389 --> 00:14:18,110 Moms for Liberty. We have an angel mom 385 00:14:18,110 --> 00:14:19,330 who lost her, 386 00:14:20,029 --> 00:14:21,090 lost her daughter, 387 00:14:22,324 --> 00:14:24,485 lost her son as a result of of 388 00:14:24,485 --> 00:14:26,964 the immigration crisis. We have a bunch of 389 00:14:26,964 --> 00:14:28,424 assembly members, a senator. 390 00:14:29,204 --> 00:14:31,204 You know, it's, it's gonna be a good 391 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:33,284 turnout, I think, even though it's gonna be 392 00:14:33,284 --> 00:14:34,904 30 degrees and in the snow. 393 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:36,980 And, one way or another, we're putting our 394 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:38,820 money where our mouth is. You know, I 395 00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:40,500 would like to I would like to see 396 00:14:40,500 --> 00:14:42,419 up there you know, obviously, we have our 397 00:14:42,419 --> 00:14:44,179 media in New Jersey as you pointed out, 398 00:14:44,179 --> 00:14:46,039 Paul, and as Brian knows as well. 399 00:14:46,659 --> 00:14:48,824 A lot of people listening to the media 400 00:14:48,824 --> 00:14:51,064 here skewed towards the, other side of the 401 00:14:51,064 --> 00:14:52,985 aisle. And in fact, they they are seem 402 00:14:52,985 --> 00:14:53,884 to be against. 403 00:14:54,184 --> 00:14:56,444 It's really incredible if you think about it. 404 00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:58,444 They are against the fundamentals 405 00:14:58,745 --> 00:15:00,985 of America, which is really quite the head 406 00:15:00,985 --> 00:15:03,084 scratcher for, for the press. 407 00:15:03,464 --> 00:15:03,964 But 408 00:15:04,289 --> 00:15:06,289 I I really we need somebody, and I'm 409 00:15:06,289 --> 00:15:07,970 not gonna be there on Monday, but I'll 410 00:15:07,970 --> 00:15:09,029 I'll be there in spirit. 411 00:15:09,330 --> 00:15:10,690 But I we need one of the, 412 00:15:12,129 --> 00:15:12,629 outside, 413 00:15:13,649 --> 00:15:16,129 media companies, Save NJ. We need one of 414 00:15:16,129 --> 00:15:18,289 those reporters to put that mic in in 415 00:15:18,289 --> 00:15:19,589 the speaker's face 416 00:15:19,934 --> 00:15:21,855 and ask that question. We gotta get it 417 00:15:21,855 --> 00:15:22,595 on video. 418 00:15:23,134 --> 00:15:25,154 Why are you why do you wanna impose 419 00:15:25,215 --> 00:15:27,695 these criminals upon your own people? Can you 420 00:15:27,695 --> 00:15:30,095 answer that question? What are you doing to 421 00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:32,035 make New Jersey more affordable? 422 00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:34,149 You know what I mean? Somebody needs to 423 00:15:34,149 --> 00:15:36,389 get this stuff on videos. With them. Yeah. 424 00:15:36,389 --> 00:15:37,129 Yeah. Go ahead. 425 00:15:37,750 --> 00:15:39,830 In the in the state house, there's no 426 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:43,370 investigative journalism anymore. It's all softball questions. 427 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:44,970 Everything edited, 428 00:15:45,824 --> 00:15:47,664 to to get them the answers that they 429 00:15:47,664 --> 00:15:49,824 want. It's it's it's very sad, to be 430 00:15:49,824 --> 00:15:52,225 honest. Nobody gets pressed on their side. And 431 00:15:52,225 --> 00:15:53,985 that's why we're in the fix we're in, 432 00:15:53,985 --> 00:15:56,384 quite frankly, because the media is not doing 433 00:15:56,384 --> 00:15:57,125 their job. 434 00:15:57,504 --> 00:15:59,664 Mister Hartley, you've been listening. Any comments or 435 00:15:59,664 --> 00:16:02,600 anything you, have heard thus far? I I 436 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,200 don't know. It just seems tired of me. 437 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 I'm just sitting here thinking. I I just 438 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,799 this is such a uphill climb. I don't 439 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,039 I don't mean to be negative, but there's 440 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:12,679 just such a a a vast amount that 441 00:16:12,679 --> 00:16:14,440 people are gonna have to get past, and 442 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,539 I just don't know what the answer is 443 00:16:17,004 --> 00:16:18,485 at all. I mean, I you know, these 444 00:16:18,485 --> 00:16:20,704 are we're chipping away at it, but, 445 00:16:21,164 --> 00:16:23,404 my God, I mean, this is common sense, 446 00:16:23,404 --> 00:16:25,004 and the people can't see the common sense, 447 00:16:25,004 --> 00:16:26,684 and the problem the problem is we can't 448 00:16:26,684 --> 00:16:28,365 seem to get They can't see it, and 449 00:16:28,365 --> 00:16:29,804 they don't care. One way to go. One 450 00:16:29,804 --> 00:16:32,149 way. A simple message, Adi. I think you're 451 00:16:32,149 --> 00:16:33,990 right. You put the mic in front of 452 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:35,990 a, you know, the speaker's face and try 453 00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:37,610 to get him to answer it, but 454 00:16:38,149 --> 00:16:39,990 this is just gonna be a long, hard 455 00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:42,470 See, my my thought is to embar the 456 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:44,070 only way to do this now is to 457 00:16:44,070 --> 00:16:45,610 embarrass them into 458 00:16:46,445 --> 00:16:48,764 changing because they're not gonna change. They're shaming 459 00:16:48,764 --> 00:16:51,404 them into changing somehow, some way. I don't 460 00:16:51,404 --> 00:16:53,325 know. I can't think of any other way 461 00:16:53,325 --> 00:16:55,345 to get to get it to happen quickly. 462 00:16:55,404 --> 00:16:56,845 The only other thing to do is just 463 00:16:56,845 --> 00:16:58,440 move to Cape May County. We're good here. 464 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:00,279 Oh, boy. Oh, boy. No. I'm I'm just 465 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:01,879 saying. It's a it's a shame. I hear 466 00:17:01,879 --> 00:17:03,399 what you're saying, but here, I'm born and 467 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:05,480 raised in New Jersey. People say people are 468 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,619 moving. They're migrating. 469 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,160 I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying in the 470 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,240 fight. I mean, I'm just saying. I mean, 471 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,140 the problem is 472 00:17:12,474 --> 00:17:14,714 I don't know county by county, we've 473 00:17:17,034 --> 00:17:19,514 Yeah. Keith Hart's favorite tune here on the 474 00:17:19,514 --> 00:17:21,595 five time radio program. Good to be with 475 00:17:21,595 --> 00:17:24,254 you, folks. We've got the assemblyman Paul Kanytra. 476 00:17:24,554 --> 00:17:26,654 Excuse me, folks. I've been mispronouncing 477 00:17:26,954 --> 00:17:27,694 his name. 478 00:17:28,019 --> 00:17:29,779 Good thing I'm a radio host, and I 479 00:17:29,779 --> 00:17:30,840 do this for a living. 480 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:33,000 But good to have him with us and 481 00:17:33,059 --> 00:17:34,759 Brian Fitzherbert as well. 482 00:17:35,380 --> 00:17:37,779 Brian, of course, you can hear regularly every 483 00:17:37,779 --> 00:17:39,460 Friday in the 11AM 484 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:40,759 hour with Anne Baker 485 00:17:41,244 --> 00:17:43,724 for Fitsubord Friday. And, of course, he was 486 00:17:43,724 --> 00:17:45,505 on today, and Paul was assemblyman. 487 00:17:46,044 --> 00:17:48,524 Knetra was with them as well. There's an 488 00:17:48,524 --> 00:17:51,724 event happening on Monday. Assemblyman Knetra, tell us, 489 00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:54,224 and apologies on the, name, by the way, 490 00:17:54,605 --> 00:17:56,464 the pronunciation of your name. 491 00:17:57,380 --> 00:18:00,259 Did both you gentlemen, the governor, new governor, 492 00:18:00,259 --> 00:18:02,279 Mikey Sherrill, has, acknowledged, 493 00:18:02,579 --> 00:18:05,779 this, budget deficit. She wants she needs no 494 00:18:05,859 --> 00:18:08,339 more money. Can you believe it? They want 495 00:18:08,339 --> 00:18:09,079 more money. 496 00:18:09,785 --> 00:18:10,444 She has, 497 00:18:11,065 --> 00:18:11,565 intimated 498 00:18:12,265 --> 00:18:15,964 possibly rating the Stay NJ program, which provides 499 00:18:16,585 --> 00:18:18,184 up to $6,000 500 00:18:18,184 --> 00:18:18,684 credits 501 00:18:19,304 --> 00:18:22,720 for six seniors 65 and older to offset 502 00:18:22,779 --> 00:18:23,759 property taxes. 503 00:18:24,220 --> 00:18:26,460 She's thinking about rating that to to, 504 00:18:27,099 --> 00:18:29,200 offset budget budget shortfalls. 505 00:18:30,059 --> 00:18:31,759 There's other gimmicks in play 506 00:18:32,140 --> 00:18:32,880 as well. 507 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:37,464 Are are you getting any sense, Assemblyman Kanat 508 00:18:37,704 --> 00:18:40,845 Kanitra and, and Brian, what what you're hearing? 509 00:18:41,224 --> 00:18:43,625 Are they ever are they actually gonna tackle 510 00:18:43,625 --> 00:18:45,644 affordability, or was that all 511 00:18:46,025 --> 00:18:47,804 talking points for a campaign? 512 00:18:48,184 --> 00:18:50,345 And now get ready, New Jersey, hang on 513 00:18:50,345 --> 00:18:51,164 to your wallet 514 00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:54,579 because the big amble of taxation is coming. 515 00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:58,160 You know how they handle affordability. Right? They 516 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,140 handle affordability 517 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,220 by using taxpayer 518 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:02,099 dollars 519 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,619 to give out, 520 00:19:04,235 --> 00:19:06,894 you know, more breaks to to low income 521 00:19:07,035 --> 00:19:10,414 individuals who they created a tough situation for. 522 00:19:10,555 --> 00:19:12,494 They do it with utility costs. 523 00:19:13,035 --> 00:19:15,994 They're doing a pilot project now in Camden 524 00:19:15,994 --> 00:19:18,900 County where they're just randomly handing out, like, 525 00:19:18,980 --> 00:19:19,859 $200 526 00:19:19,859 --> 00:19:21,080 a pop to people, 527 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:23,720 they they're they're they're doing it everywhere. 528 00:19:24,099 --> 00:19:26,339 And the stay and day program is a 529 00:19:26,339 --> 00:19:27,240 total joke. 530 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:29,160 It was just a pandering 531 00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:31,960 program that they never had the funds for. 532 00:19:32,075 --> 00:19:34,714 We're imagining that Republican was gonna win the 533 00:19:34,714 --> 00:19:35,214 gubernatorial 534 00:19:35,595 --> 00:19:37,755 race and was gonna get stuck having to 535 00:19:37,755 --> 00:19:39,674 break the news to seniors that they don't 536 00:19:39,674 --> 00:19:41,355 have the money. So I don't even know 537 00:19:41,355 --> 00:19:44,075 what she's going to raid in that because 538 00:19:44,075 --> 00:19:46,259 it's not fully funded, and they don't have 539 00:19:46,259 --> 00:19:48,359 the money to deliver it anyway. 540 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:51,220 I I no. There's the the way that 541 00:19:51,220 --> 00:19:53,380 we're spending money, our our you know, our 542 00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:55,880 budget has gone up over 70% 543 00:19:56,180 --> 00:19:58,200 since Chris Christie left office. 544 00:19:58,515 --> 00:20:00,615 I mean, 70% 545 00:20:00,994 --> 00:20:03,075 since Chris Christie left office. So whether your 546 00:20:03,075 --> 00:20:05,974 listeners like Chris Christie or not, his budget, 547 00:20:06,755 --> 00:20:07,815 was significantly 548 00:20:08,195 --> 00:20:10,214 less than what we have now. They're addicted 549 00:20:10,434 --> 00:20:12,595 to spending, and I don't see any end 550 00:20:12,595 --> 00:20:15,190 to that no matter how the cutesy they 551 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:17,190 play games and say that they're giving people 552 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:17,690 breaks. 553 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:21,509 Brian, what you any comments on anything we've 554 00:20:21,509 --> 00:20:23,589 talked about thus far, of course? And then, 555 00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:24,089 also, 556 00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:26,809 what about the Republican state GOP? 557 00:20:27,269 --> 00:20:29,450 Shouldn't they be leading the charge? 558 00:20:30,045 --> 00:20:31,345 They seem to be 559 00:20:31,884 --> 00:20:32,384 absent 560 00:20:32,845 --> 00:20:35,644 where you have all this low hanging fruit 561 00:20:35,644 --> 00:20:36,384 of issues, 562 00:20:36,924 --> 00:20:37,744 pick one, 563 00:20:38,045 --> 00:20:39,744 and they don't seem to be anywhere. 564 00:20:40,205 --> 00:20:41,825 I know that's not your bailiwick, 565 00:20:42,205 --> 00:20:43,884 Brian, but your comments on what we've been 566 00:20:43,884 --> 00:20:45,950 talking about thus far, and then I'll switch 567 00:20:45,950 --> 00:20:47,710 back to the assemblyman for his take on 568 00:20:47,710 --> 00:20:49,390 the and, of course, you're welcome to comment 569 00:20:49,390 --> 00:20:51,490 on that as well, the Republican state GOP. 570 00:20:51,630 --> 00:20:53,009 But where the heck are they? 571 00:20:53,869 --> 00:20:55,869 Yeah. Yeah. So two things here. You know, 572 00:20:55,869 --> 00:20:57,390 this is one of the things that drives 573 00:20:57,390 --> 00:20:59,494 me nuts because I work in corporate America. 574 00:20:59,494 --> 00:21:01,734 I work on budgets and guess what? You 575 00:21:01,734 --> 00:21:04,214 have shareholders, you have stakeholders, you have internal 576 00:21:04,214 --> 00:21:07,035 external customers that you have to support etcetera. 577 00:21:07,174 --> 00:21:09,575 And you can't do these budget gimmicks because 578 00:21:09,575 --> 00:21:12,389 most publicly traded companies are heavily regulated to 579 00:21:12,389 --> 00:21:13,829 rent this. And you would think government's the 580 00:21:13,829 --> 00:21:16,389 same way. Two things. You touched upon this, 581 00:21:16,389 --> 00:21:18,389 and the assemblyman signature touched upon this from 582 00:21:18,389 --> 00:21:20,629 an energy standpoint. New Jersey, not too long 583 00:21:20,629 --> 00:21:23,750 ago, was a net exporter of energy. And 584 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,049 then guess what? The democrats 585 00:21:25,465 --> 00:21:27,545 closed six power plants, and now we've become 586 00:21:27,545 --> 00:21:29,945 a net importer costing us more money. And, 587 00:21:29,945 --> 00:21:31,865 yes, by the way, getting it from coal 588 00:21:31,865 --> 00:21:34,664 and other places in West Virginia. That's piece 589 00:21:34,664 --> 00:21:37,305 number one. Piece number two, from an economic 590 00:21:37,305 --> 00:21:38,684 standpoint, again, the assemblyman's 591 00:21:39,065 --> 00:21:40,525 report on illegal immigration 592 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,500 is the first place that any executive 593 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,680 in in Trenton should start by saying, wow, 594 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,840 7 to $8,000,000,000 that we're spending on non 595 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,480 citizens and criminal foreign nationals that broke our 596 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,480 laws and illegal immigrants that are here. That's 597 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,005 probably a good place to start for $8,000,000,000 598 00:21:56,005 --> 00:21:58,244 to try to figure this out. Ask everyone 599 00:21:58,244 --> 00:22:01,785 listening, why is rent and housing so expensive? 600 00:22:02,005 --> 00:22:04,884 Blame illegal immigration. Too much demand. Why is 601 00:22:04,884 --> 00:22:07,950 school and local taxes so expensive? Because illegal 602 00:22:07,950 --> 00:22:09,630 immigrants that have children that go in these 603 00:22:09,630 --> 00:22:11,630 schools that do not speak English, that are 604 00:22:11,630 --> 00:22:12,849 forced to hire teachers 605 00:22:13,309 --> 00:22:16,349 that are English as a second language, adding 606 00:22:16,349 --> 00:22:18,669 more to the budget. Blame illegal immigration. Why 607 00:22:18,669 --> 00:22:21,069 is health care and health insurance so expensive? 608 00:22:21,069 --> 00:22:22,210 Because illegal immigrants 609 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:23,009 use 610 00:22:23,494 --> 00:22:26,855 urgent care and hospitals as primary care. Every 611 00:22:26,855 --> 00:22:29,575 issue from an economic standpoint, you can tie 612 00:22:29,575 --> 00:22:31,914 back to the root cause of illegal immigration. 613 00:22:32,215 --> 00:22:34,555 And, again, $8,000,000,000 614 00:22:34,775 --> 00:22:37,335 a year a year. The democrats have been 615 00:22:37,335 --> 00:22:38,875 in control of Trenton 616 00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:40,589 with the exception of the eight years of 617 00:22:40,589 --> 00:22:43,250 Chris Christie for the last quarter century. 618 00:22:44,349 --> 00:22:45,730 They own the affordability 619 00:22:46,029 --> 00:22:49,789 crisis, their policies, their decisions, their problems. And 620 00:22:49,789 --> 00:22:51,230 to your second point, where is the New 621 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:52,130 Jersey GOP? 622 00:22:52,575 --> 00:22:54,994 Again, it's very basic. Where is the messaging? 623 00:22:55,054 --> 00:22:57,134 What do Republicans stand for? And how is 624 00:22:57,134 --> 00:22:59,214 that communicated? And that's not happening. And it's 625 00:22:59,214 --> 00:23:00,974 not happening. And, you know, you talked about 626 00:23:00,974 --> 00:23:02,414 the numbers. You know, a lot of people, 627 00:23:02,414 --> 00:23:04,335 when you start rattling off the numbers that 628 00:23:04,335 --> 00:23:06,575 you talked about, rent is high because of 629 00:23:06,575 --> 00:23:07,474 illegal immigration. 630 00:23:08,570 --> 00:23:11,150 Jobs are scarce because of illegal immigration. 631 00:23:11,769 --> 00:23:14,170 People think you're coming down personally on the 632 00:23:14,170 --> 00:23:16,570 people who are illegal immigrants, and that may 633 00:23:16,570 --> 00:23:18,170 or may not be. I don't think that's 634 00:23:18,170 --> 00:23:19,710 the case. It's simply mathematics. 635 00:23:20,265 --> 00:23:22,265 If you have 10 to 15,000,000 636 00:23:22,265 --> 00:23:25,224 people that come into a country, the housing 637 00:23:25,224 --> 00:23:25,724 stock 638 00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:28,664 is stagnant. Right? So it's what it is. 639 00:23:28,664 --> 00:23:30,184 So if there are 15,000,000 640 00:23:30,184 --> 00:23:32,984 new people come into the country, naturally, that's 641 00:23:32,984 --> 00:23:33,964 going to absorb 642 00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:37,170 the housing stock, whether it's rents, buying, what 643 00:23:37,170 --> 00:23:40,289 have you, and you're eliminating that inventory from 644 00:23:40,289 --> 00:23:42,450 the marketplace, which is gonna drive up the 645 00:23:42,450 --> 00:23:45,570 cost. It has to happen. It's simple math. 646 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:46,070 Correct? 647 00:23:47,325 --> 00:23:51,345 100%. It's just math, and we cannot afford 648 00:23:51,644 --> 00:23:54,285 everything. The federal government cannot afford everything. The 649 00:23:54,285 --> 00:23:56,204 federal government's $40,000,000,000,000 650 00:23:56,204 --> 00:23:57,585 in debt. New Jersey 651 00:23:57,884 --> 00:24:00,765 is like Assemblyman Kenninger said. We almost have 652 00:24:00,765 --> 00:24:02,339 a $60,000,000,000 653 00:24:02,419 --> 00:24:03,319 state budget. 654 00:24:03,619 --> 00:24:06,419 That is unbelievably absurd given the amount of 655 00:24:06,419 --> 00:24:08,500 people that are here. We have to get 656 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,740 things under control. And, of course, we have 657 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:13,299 these unfortunate automatic things in place because we 658 00:24:13,299 --> 00:24:14,819 have a constitutional amendment that says the balance 659 00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:16,339 the budget has to be balanced. So what 660 00:24:16,339 --> 00:24:19,484 happens? You have automatic gas tax increases or 661 00:24:19,484 --> 00:24:22,444 other gimmicks to meet the budget. Just stop 662 00:24:22,444 --> 00:24:22,944 spending. 663 00:24:23,404 --> 00:24:25,184 Stop spending on noncitizens 664 00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:27,484 and people who are not lawful to be 665 00:24:27,484 --> 00:24:31,410 here. American citizens first, New Jerseyans first, not 666 00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:34,529 non citizens. And that's unfortunately the problem because, 667 00:24:34,529 --> 00:24:35,029 again, 668 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,490 many people will sympathize, but you have to 669 00:24:37,490 --> 00:24:39,250 follow the law. We are a nation of 670 00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:41,009 laws, not a nation of men and women, 671 00:24:41,009 --> 00:24:43,009 and the emotions at any given time Well 672 00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:44,545 who's in the Governor's Mansion. Mansion. I got 673 00:24:44,545 --> 00:24:46,424 news for you. I I think emotions give 674 00:24:46,424 --> 00:24:48,305 way to money any day of the week. 675 00:24:48,305 --> 00:24:50,144 And when you start telling the average New 676 00:24:50,144 --> 00:24:54,005 Jersey, hey. Illegal immigration is costing you you 677 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:55,585 $1,600 678 00:24:55,585 --> 00:24:56,644 out of your pocket, 679 00:24:57,025 --> 00:24:59,045 I think you start getting people's attention. 680 00:24:59,659 --> 00:25:01,339 See, the other point I wanted to make, 681 00:25:01,339 --> 00:25:02,720 if you wanna make change, 682 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,259 what we did is we started at the 683 00:25:05,259 --> 00:25:07,819 local level years back because what was happening 684 00:25:07,819 --> 00:25:09,039 in Cape May County 685 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:10,480 is our commissioner's, 686 00:25:11,179 --> 00:25:13,914 board or, at that time, freeholders' board had 687 00:25:13,914 --> 00:25:16,075 people in their sixties and seventies. Nothing wrong 688 00:25:16,075 --> 00:25:17,835 with that, but we had no bench moving 689 00:25:17,835 --> 00:25:18,335 forward. 690 00:25:18,634 --> 00:25:19,755 So in Ocean City, 691 00:25:20,394 --> 00:25:21,914 we had a lot of older people on 692 00:25:21,914 --> 00:25:24,234 our council. We started getting younger people like 693 00:25:24,234 --> 00:25:26,279 Antoine McClellan, Bobby Barr. 694 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,099 These were all on purpose. These were talented 695 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,400 people that we looked at and got them 696 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,320 involved. We went to Bobby Barr. We went 697 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,920 to Antoine McClellan and said, you need to 698 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,759 get involved. But Bobby would have any with 699 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:38,934 Jeff, but obviously, we went to him sooner 700 00:25:38,934 --> 00:25:39,755 than later 701 00:25:40,134 --> 00:25:41,654 and said you guys have to run for 702 00:25:41,654 --> 00:25:43,595 office. You have to run for city council. 703 00:25:43,975 --> 00:25:45,894 That creates a bench, and it seemed in 704 00:25:45,894 --> 00:25:47,975 other places in the county, I had nothing 705 00:25:47,975 --> 00:25:49,894 to do with it. Other towns were doing 706 00:25:49,894 --> 00:25:52,475 it. So now we have this feeder system 707 00:25:53,170 --> 00:25:55,650 where we have younger people in the commission 708 00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:58,289 spots, younger people in the assembly spots, and 709 00:25:58,289 --> 00:26:01,109 younger people in the state senate spots, 710 00:26:01,570 --> 00:26:04,849 not necessarily career politicians because they've they've got 711 00:26:04,849 --> 00:26:07,365 movement. They can move. Testa is is good 712 00:26:07,365 --> 00:26:10,085 enough to move into something else. And so 713 00:26:10,085 --> 00:26:12,484 Simonson and McClellan, where they move to, I 714 00:26:12,484 --> 00:26:15,305 don't know. But if we do this locally, 715 00:26:15,765 --> 00:26:17,845 start with your city council and your school 716 00:26:17,845 --> 00:26:19,945 boards, get the right people in. 717 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:22,200 It's a little easier for us because we're 718 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,700 nonpartisan, 719 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,880 but the nice thing about a local city 720 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,759 council is it's not as divisive on social 721 00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:30,600 issues and some of the dumb crap that's 722 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,759 that separates us. It's more how you run 723 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,875 a budget and run a town. And those 724 00:26:34,875 --> 00:26:36,795 are the types of people that were moving 725 00:26:36,795 --> 00:26:39,434 up in Cape May County. And just through 726 00:26:39,434 --> 00:26:40,955 doing it, it took a long time. It 727 00:26:40,955 --> 00:26:42,795 took twenty years, folks. I'm just saying it's 728 00:26:42,875 --> 00:26:44,875 Yeah. It's a good place to start. Yeah. 729 00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:46,015 Listen. And, also, 730 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:49,690 of those 57 Democrat assembly people and 25 731 00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:50,990 senators who are Democrats, 732 00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:55,130 Assemblyman, Connecticut, you probably know this, so I'll 733 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:57,690 ask you. How how many of those are 734 00:26:57,690 --> 00:26:58,089 on the, 735 00:26:58,730 --> 00:27:00,490 elder side? Like, how many of those it 736 00:27:00,490 --> 00:27:03,075 looks like they're getting ready to, maybe Are 737 00:27:03,075 --> 00:27:06,034 there any opportunities maybe to challenge some of 738 00:27:06,034 --> 00:27:07,554 those seats in the future that you can 739 00:27:07,554 --> 00:27:08,775 tell from right now? 740 00:27:09,714 --> 00:27:11,315 Well, first of all, I wanna give the 741 00:27:11,315 --> 00:27:14,275 councilman some major kudos. I started off as 742 00:27:14,275 --> 00:27:16,589 a councilman, then I was mayor of Point 743 00:27:16,589 --> 00:27:18,670 Pleasant Beach, and then I moved to the 744 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:19,170 assembly. 745 00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:22,190 And I had to scratch and claw and 746 00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:24,829 fight every step of the way. I never 747 00:27:24,829 --> 00:27:26,450 was the anointed candidate. 748 00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:29,294 Nobody ever chose me. You know, I had 749 00:27:29,294 --> 00:27:31,774 to run against my own sitting Republican mayor 750 00:27:31,774 --> 00:27:33,054 because I didn't like the way that he 751 00:27:33,054 --> 00:27:34,815 was running the town and things were going 752 00:27:34,815 --> 00:27:36,974 in the wrong direction. I didn't win the 753 00:27:36,974 --> 00:27:39,375 screening committee nod. I was the first person 754 00:27:39,375 --> 00:27:41,534 to come off of the county floor in 755 00:27:41,534 --> 00:27:43,774 Ocean County at a convention in, like, twenty 756 00:27:43,774 --> 00:27:46,380 some years. And what he said 757 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,339 really hits home for me because 758 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:51,259 it it underscores 759 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,619 why we don't have enough young candidates because 760 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,140 you get a lot of the nepotism 761 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,519 and a lot of the waiting in line 762 00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:01,095 Right. That people have to do. And just 763 00:28:01,095 --> 00:28:01,595 because 764 00:28:02,055 --> 00:28:04,695 they don't have something to offer or aren't 765 00:28:04,695 --> 00:28:07,515 owed a favor or owe somebody a favor, 766 00:28:07,734 --> 00:28:10,214 they don't get moved up. And, you know, 767 00:28:10,214 --> 00:28:12,055 New Jersey is very unique in that. And, 768 00:28:12,055 --> 00:28:14,234 you know, the loss of the county line, 769 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:16,200 should expedite 770 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,079 that process a little bit more. You're seeing, 771 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:21,299 especially on the Democrat side, you're seeing a 772 00:28:21,299 --> 00:28:24,740 gazillion people enter every single race, which I 773 00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:26,740 think is healthy and good because then the 774 00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:28,734 cream will rise to the top. I guess 775 00:28:28,734 --> 00:28:30,515 on their side, the more extreme 776 00:28:30,894 --> 00:28:33,615 crazy clotted cream will rise to the top. 777 00:28:33,615 --> 00:28:35,855 But it's but something still rising to the 778 00:28:35,855 --> 00:28:36,355 top. 779 00:28:36,894 --> 00:28:38,515 And, yeah, look, disproportionately 780 00:28:38,974 --> 00:28:40,894 in New Jersey, I go I go to 781 00:28:40,894 --> 00:28:41,714 state legislator, 782 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:46,009 conferences across the country. I'm I was selected 783 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:48,570 emerging leader for GOPAC. I'm the class president. 784 00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:51,369 I'm the New Jersey state chair for ALEC. 785 00:28:51,670 --> 00:28:53,990 I was selected to the state legislative leadership 786 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:56,230 foundation. I go to these events, and it's 787 00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:56,730 all 788 00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:57,529 younger, 789 00:28:59,085 --> 00:29:02,045 elected officials. I'm the old man at 46 790 00:29:02,045 --> 00:29:03,884 when I go to the these other events, 791 00:29:03,884 --> 00:29:05,505 and I come back here to Jersey. 792 00:29:05,805 --> 00:29:07,585 And I'm like the young whippersnapper 793 00:29:07,964 --> 00:29:10,125 that people are like, how is how is 794 00:29:10,125 --> 00:29:12,990 he so young? You know? So so we 795 00:29:12,990 --> 00:29:14,990 do have a lot of people in a 796 00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:15,890 lot of positions 797 00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:17,410 that are older, 798 00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:19,710 and have been in there for a little 799 00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:22,029 bit too long. Some of whom still have 800 00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:23,710 a ton of energy and and are doing 801 00:29:23,710 --> 00:29:25,710 a good job, but others who fall into 802 00:29:25,710 --> 00:29:26,204 the 803 00:29:26,684 --> 00:29:27,184 stereotypical 804 00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:30,204 just not really doing much and taking up 805 00:29:30,204 --> 00:29:32,605 a seat trap. And, hopefully, they you know, 806 00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:34,365 they'll get they'll get moved on and moved 807 00:29:34,365 --> 00:29:36,444 out. And, real quick, I gotta ask this. 808 00:29:36,444 --> 00:29:38,204 So we got a break coming up, gentlemen. 809 00:29:38,204 --> 00:29:39,964 So if you guys, if you wanna hang 810 00:29:39,964 --> 00:29:41,669 with us, you can. But if, if it's 811 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:43,190 time to go, you want you know, I 812 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:45,609 wanna thank you for stopping by the ClineTime 813 00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:47,669 radio show. But here's what I wanna ask 814 00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:49,829 you. Of the Republicans that we have there, 815 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:51,289 the 15 in the senate, 816 00:29:51,589 --> 00:29:52,730 the 23 817 00:29:53,109 --> 00:29:53,929 in the assembly, 818 00:29:54,644 --> 00:29:56,984 aside from mister, Assemblyman Kenitra, 819 00:29:59,205 --> 00:30:02,164 within those groups, we have some that aren't 820 00:30:02,164 --> 00:30:02,664 necessarily 821 00:30:02,965 --> 00:30:05,684 Republican. That's also a problem for are you 822 00:30:05,684 --> 00:30:09,365 alone, Assemblyman Kenitra? Are there why why aren't 823 00:30:09,365 --> 00:30:09,865 there, 824 00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:12,059 why aren't the other 23 825 00:30:12,059 --> 00:30:13,039 assembly Republicans 826 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:15,500 joining you? Why you know? You know what 827 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,580 I mean? Why, you know, it might be 828 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:19,500 a minority, but if it's a minority where 829 00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:22,140 everybody's on board, it has a little more 830 00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:23,759 punch than just one guy. 831 00:30:24,775 --> 00:30:26,454 Look. I have to be honest. It is 832 00:30:26,454 --> 00:30:27,835 not just one person. 833 00:30:28,615 --> 00:30:31,255 People are starting to stand up and speak. 834 00:30:31,255 --> 00:30:33,015 And I I you know, if you go 835 00:30:33,015 --> 00:30:35,335 back a couple years ago, the stereotype was 836 00:30:35,335 --> 00:30:38,309 that it was assemblyman Brian Bergen standing up 837 00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:40,630 and, you know, speaking up against a lot 838 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:42,150 of things and and not a ton of 839 00:30:42,150 --> 00:30:43,930 other people standing around him. 840 00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:46,789 I've seen a huge shift since I came 841 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:47,289 in, 842 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:50,710 two years ago. Now look. Everybody has different 843 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:51,210 districts. 844 00:30:51,525 --> 00:30:53,765 My district is as red as any in 845 00:30:53,765 --> 00:30:56,644 Alabama or Mississippi, and I represent it the 846 00:30:56,644 --> 00:30:58,404 way that I think it should be as 847 00:30:58,404 --> 00:30:58,904 conservative 848 00:30:59,205 --> 00:30:59,945 as I am. 849 00:31:00,724 --> 00:31:03,045 But other people have different districts, and they 850 00:31:03,045 --> 00:31:05,205 have different passions, and they have different issue 851 00:31:05,205 --> 00:31:06,585 arenas. And that's fine 852 00:31:06,929 --> 00:31:10,049 as long as they're loudly proclaiming what's important 853 00:31:10,049 --> 00:31:12,149 and they're standing up on the fiscal issues. 854 00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:13,970 And I think we're seeing a lot of 855 00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:15,569 that. I I mean, I know you guys 856 00:31:15,569 --> 00:31:17,509 are in in opposite hemispheres 857 00:31:17,889 --> 00:31:21,194 from, you know, Sussex and Morris County, but, 858 00:31:21,194 --> 00:31:23,615 you know, if you're not following Dawn Fantasia, 859 00:31:24,474 --> 00:31:26,174 you're missing out. She is 860 00:31:26,474 --> 00:31:27,534 a a total spitfire. 861 00:31:27,835 --> 00:31:31,214 She represents Republican women so strongly. Good. 862 00:31:31,674 --> 00:31:32,894 You have no idea, 863 00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:36,075 into assemblyman. Mike and Ganemort is doing a 864 00:31:36,075 --> 00:31:36,815 great job. 865 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:40,259 Greg Meyer, you know, from Southern Ocean County 866 00:31:40,259 --> 00:31:42,259 is doing a great job. My running mate, 867 00:31:42,259 --> 00:31:43,080 Greg McGuckin, 868 00:31:43,859 --> 00:31:46,920 you've you've got, you you you Alex Sawicki 869 00:31:47,059 --> 00:31:49,220 in Jackson. You you you have a lot 870 00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:51,224 of people who are standing up, 871 00:31:51,544 --> 00:31:52,265 and and, 872 00:31:52,705 --> 00:31:53,804 it it is 873 00:31:54,265 --> 00:31:55,484 slowly building 874 00:31:55,785 --> 00:31:58,265 on itself. I I wanna give your viewers 875 00:31:58,265 --> 00:32:00,664 a little bit of hope that it is 876 00:32:00,664 --> 00:32:02,984 it is slowly building on itself. Well, I 877 00:32:02,984 --> 00:32:05,304 wanted I think in in in in in 878 00:32:05,304 --> 00:32:06,044 a almost, 879 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:09,289 inverted way, though, we keep expecting I thought 880 00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:11,369 it would happen this past election cycle when 881 00:32:11,369 --> 00:32:13,529 people would be so fed up that they 882 00:32:13,529 --> 00:32:14,429 would have enough. 883 00:32:14,970 --> 00:32:17,210 And Ciattarelli, you know, maybe that's what his 884 00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:18,970 mistake was, thinking that that would be the 885 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:20,490 case, and he only lost by a little 886 00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:23,224 bit the first last election cycle, and he'd 887 00:32:23,224 --> 00:32:24,924 be coasting in this time around. 888 00:32:25,224 --> 00:32:26,845 We do know at some point 889 00:32:27,144 --> 00:32:29,865 the threshold is gonna be hit where people 890 00:32:29,865 --> 00:32:31,005 have had enough. 891 00:32:31,704 --> 00:32:33,704 I think I thought we were there this 892 00:32:33,704 --> 00:32:36,285 last election cycle. Obviously, we weren't. 893 00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:39,950 But at some point, it will become untenable 894 00:32:40,090 --> 00:32:42,590 for the average citizen even if they're Democrat. 895 00:32:43,210 --> 00:32:44,750 Do you see any Democrats, 896 00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:46,509 Assemblyman Kenetra, 897 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:48,650 that are starting to wave are are starting 898 00:32:48,650 --> 00:32:49,470 to get religion 899 00:32:50,115 --> 00:32:52,775 as to the affordability problem in the state? 900 00:32:53,795 --> 00:32:56,535 I'd I'd say it's the opposite. I know 901 00:32:57,795 --> 00:32:59,174 five or six Democrats 902 00:32:59,714 --> 00:33:02,214 that probably voted for president Trump. 903 00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:05,930 But when the rubber meets the road, 904 00:33:06,309 --> 00:33:08,970 they vote the way that their Democrat leadership 905 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:12,390 wants them to Wow. Almost every single time. 906 00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:12,890 Sometimes, 907 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:15,845 they seem to, quote, unquote, forget to hit 908 00:33:15,845 --> 00:33:18,345 their button or they don't vote on something. 909 00:33:19,204 --> 00:33:21,204 But at the end of the day, they 910 00:33:21,204 --> 00:33:24,585 do seem more concerned with keeping their seat 911 00:33:24,724 --> 00:33:27,299 than doing what's right. For me, I already 912 00:33:27,299 --> 00:33:29,700 get to tell my grandkids when I'm 90 913 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:31,380 years old that I was in the state 914 00:33:31,380 --> 00:33:33,539 legislature. I don't think they're gonna think I'm 915 00:33:33,539 --> 00:33:35,380 any cooler if I did it for 20 916 00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:37,000 terms versus two terms. 917 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:39,059 You know, I just wanna look myself in 918 00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:40,179 the mirror at the end of the day, 919 00:33:40,179 --> 00:33:41,539 and now I stood up for what was 920 00:33:41,539 --> 00:33:42,039 right. 921 00:33:42,445 --> 00:33:44,605 Boy, that's, we only had a a whole 922 00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:46,445 lot more of you in there. We'd be 923 00:33:46,445 --> 00:33:48,144 out of this mess. Brian Fitzherbert, 924 00:33:48,605 --> 00:33:51,345 you've been patient, you know, listening to everybody, 925 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:53,644 Brian. And we're, you know, coming up. We've 926 00:33:53,644 --> 00:33:55,950 got a few minutes left. Your comments on 927 00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:58,190 anything we've been talking about, Brian, as well 928 00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:58,690 as 929 00:33:59,630 --> 00:34:01,789 going forward. What do you think about going 930 00:34:01,789 --> 00:34:02,289 forward? 931 00:34:03,789 --> 00:34:07,230 Look. Nothing ever happens overnight, and sometimes things 932 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:08,989 take a while. And sometimes there has to 933 00:34:08,989 --> 00:34:09,489 be, 934 00:34:09,974 --> 00:34:12,055 a cleansing as it were and sometimes you 935 00:34:12,055 --> 00:34:13,735 gotta fall on your face. There's gotta be 936 00:34:13,735 --> 00:34:14,795 process to filter 937 00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:17,735 and get people motivated and interested in to 938 00:34:17,735 --> 00:34:20,695 send me to Mitra's point. It's really hard 939 00:34:20,695 --> 00:34:21,510 to get people 940 00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:24,469 involved in the political process because it's so 941 00:34:24,469 --> 00:34:24,969 vicious. 942 00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:27,989 It's so backstabbed even from quote unquote your 943 00:34:27,989 --> 00:34:29,909 own side or your allies, etcetera, because you 944 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:31,590 don't really have friends in politics. Right? You 945 00:34:31,590 --> 00:34:32,730 have temporary allies 946 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:34,309 that it could be weeks, it could be 947 00:34:34,309 --> 00:34:35,510 months, it could be years, it could be 948 00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:37,765 decades, and it only aligns as long as 949 00:34:37,765 --> 00:34:40,425 those priorities do. And to get people involved 950 00:34:40,485 --> 00:34:42,565 when they have a professional life, a family 951 00:34:42,565 --> 00:34:43,065 life, 952 00:34:43,684 --> 00:34:46,025 and the the nastiness that comes 953 00:34:46,405 --> 00:34:48,565 because it's power, you know, the the sphere 954 00:34:48,565 --> 00:34:50,085 of influence that people have is they don't 955 00:34:50,085 --> 00:34:51,630 wanna give up. There's very few 956 00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:54,510 people like assemble I'm like, Brian. I'm interrupting 957 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:56,730 you right now to say that you and 958 00:34:56,730 --> 00:34:58,730 I are friends. We're real friends. Go to 959 00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:59,389 my wedding. 960 00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:01,769 Yeah. Brian, you didn't hear him about a 961 00:35:01,769 --> 00:35:04,164 supplement. Kaninja said he's interrupting you right now 962 00:35:04,164 --> 00:35:05,764 to remind you that you and him are 963 00:35:05,764 --> 00:35:07,625 friends. You came to his wedding. 964 00:35:08,164 --> 00:35:10,405 He wanted to point that. Gentlemen end of 965 00:35:10,405 --> 00:35:12,324 my wedding. And, gentlemen, I wanna thank you 966 00:35:12,324 --> 00:35:14,005 both for join I wanna thank you both 967 00:35:14,005 --> 00:35:15,844 for joining us here on the program today. 968 00:35:15,844 --> 00:35:17,625 I can't wait to have you back. 969 00:35:18,130 --> 00:35:20,050 Hopefully, the next time we get together, the 970 00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:22,289 news will be better. Maybe those up at 971 00:35:22,289 --> 00:35:24,289 the, in the state house will have gotten 972 00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,530 religion. Maybe they'll get the message from the 973 00:35:26,530 --> 00:35:27,829 people that they represent 974 00:35:28,530 --> 00:35:30,609 and, you know, start doing the right thing 975 00:35:30,609 --> 00:35:31,429 by the peep.