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Our guest today is the legendary Ra Sierra.

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Roman is not only a distinguished behavioral economist

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and professor at Case western reserve University,

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but also a vocal advocate for Ukraine.

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In this gripping episode, Roman ramon shares the

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deeply personal and harrowing experiences of living through

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the ongoing war in Ukraine.

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He provides a powerful insight into the resilience

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and determination of the Ukrainian people amidst devastating

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circumstances.

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Ra dedication to his homeland is pal. As

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he recounts his efforts to support those affected

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by the conflict.

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From raising funds to rebuild his Alma mater

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to providing aid to hospitals.

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His perspective on the global implications of the

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war and the importance of standing against aggression

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is both thought provoking and inspiring.

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Now as Joey Ramon said, Hey h, let's

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go.

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Roman, it's wonderful to see you. Well, it's

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a pleasure to be here. Thank you so

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much.

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And

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I'm sure every day has been tough since

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the beginning of this war,

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but I know things have been a little

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bit more than just tough for you lately.

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How are you doing?

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Yeah. Today is a that devastating day because,

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today, Russia hit

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Ukraine in hospital

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Did, which is the largest

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children hospital in Ukraine, and, it's especially

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dear to me because

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I went to that hospital many times. We

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brought 8 to that hospital. We brought,

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medical equipment, Medicine

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finances.

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I went, I cried with families with kids.

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I hugged them. I prayed for them. I,

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and now some of them are dead,

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So it's a difficult day. I'm so very

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very sorry.

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Thank you.

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I'm so very sorry.

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How is your family? How are your friends

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and and loved ones?

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Well, thankfully, most of my family is in

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the Western Ukraine. So,

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they do get their share of pain, but,

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you've comparing to the rest of Ukrainians, I

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think they are definitely doing, I would say

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a little bit better because they're in the

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south... Safer side of Ukraine, and you on

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from keys kinda

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closer to the Polish border, but they do

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get hit from time to time,

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less than 2 weeks ago, my Alma mater

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university that I studied that,

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I got my bachelor's the green economics from

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there. Then as when I became a professor,

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I traveled many times to Ukraine and give

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lectures at that university diverse the. It's been

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part of

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the things that I tried to do is

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throwing raise some funds to help them to

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rebuild and

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there been some good people that came along.

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rebuilding my Alma mater.

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So, yeah. I mean, thankfully, my parents are

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safe. My brother is safe, uncle,

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my aunt.

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Ukrainians are suffering.

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let me know where to send money and

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we'll write a check.

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Thank you, Chris... We've been trying to support

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the Ukrainian people

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since the first horrible day of this war.

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In any way we can. So if we

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can help at all with your alma mater,

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shake my wallet at loose, we'll we'll cut

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you check.

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Thank you.

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What's it like

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for people living

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in the Ukraine now. It's been

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well over 2 years.

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And I think there's a lot of people

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certainly in the United States and even in

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much of Western Europe

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that don't know what it's like to live.

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there are a couple things

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that make a difference,

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from the sort of normal day life, and

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I can tell because I sort of live

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into world worlds. I spent a lot of

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time especially the first 2 years in Ukraine,

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living there most of my time and then

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going back to the states and so when

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I'm in the states,

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you know, things that I take for granted

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is just hey. I can connect with you

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over the Internet, and I can... I have

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electricity, And I have to worry about turning

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on my

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lights. I have water. I can take shower

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every day. I have

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just basic necessities and in Ukraine, all those

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necessities

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kind of been cut off. And so some

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people,

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they don't understand that the russia is trying

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to break them

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Ukrainian people, not the military. They cannot do

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much on the front. They failed in many,

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many grounds. Yes. There is some little

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concessions that go here and there on the

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on the front line, but those are so

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minor and minute renewed

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that it's nothing comparison to

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what they would like to accomplish. And so

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as a result, what they're trying to do

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is just shell the infrastructure,

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destroy the

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electric grids,

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70 percent of the ukrainian capacity, electric capacity

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has been destroyed and damaged.

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And so that creates a very difficult life

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on a

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mundane daily

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level. So for example, my parents,

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you know, there's half a bay,

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where there's no electricity in then, there is

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a half a day. There is electricity. And

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my parents as I said already,

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in sort of in the better state

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because they,

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they're somewhat more better off financially, they,

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have electric,

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batteries that and generators and things like that.

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But even with that, it's it's stuff. It's

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stuff because,

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even if you can cover those basic

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necessities,

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there's is always

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as a ecological

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difficulty.

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You wake up every morning.

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to. Sleep because there is air alarm and

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if you're in a dangerous place, you need

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to go to the bomb shelter.

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And then when you copy in the morning,

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the first thing you do, you checked you

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check the news. You read through the telegram

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channels in the social media to find out

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who has been killed,

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You know, and you hope that this is

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not somebody, you know or somebody

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around you,

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you find out, and then,

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in the middle of the day, you walk

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on the streets and you know, kind of

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live resumes and people learn to be resilient.

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But then again, the air raid alarm turns

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on, and you need to figure out, are

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you in a dangerous place or are you

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not? Your phone goes on there's is an

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app that basically

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notifies everybody. So everybody around you, just hears

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the sound of noise and so everybody checks.

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Oh, the rockets are flying this in this

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direction, You know, you have to be careful.

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If you're any other from keys, they're saying,

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well, they're flying your direction and they could

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hit you in

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So you kind of know that you have

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15 minutes, and then you will need to

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do something. So

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that's that's the reality. That's the life

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besides

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typical, daily problems that all of us have,

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you know, trying to pay the bills, trying

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to, you know, provide for the family and

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all these other things. But then on on

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on top of that, you have this layer

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of uncertainty, the layer of,

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constant psychological,

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but you know,

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overhead over your head, and so that... That's

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the life. That's how it is.

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summarizes in 1 word. Fuck.

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I know it anger me tremendously.

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I can't imagine how you and your family

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feel.

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And how the

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millions are wonderful wonderful Ukrainians feel.

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Yeah. It's it's tough because

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you can't do.

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Sorry.

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You can't do anything.

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You don't?

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And yet you're doing so much.

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You're 1 of the most vocal people

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in America,

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fighting for your country and your people. Yeah.

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But it's not enough, You know, you

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try

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to do everything you can,

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and you just can't stop seagull.

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So, yeah,

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I lost already 3 friends on the battlefield,

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3 of my cousins right now on the

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front frontlines.

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1 of my cousins was just recently hit

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by the Russian Drone. He survived, but, you

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know, Badly injured

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trying to recover. So it's Spain. It's Pain

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you know, it's kind of difficult also to

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You know, right now, I'm sitting in Cleveland.

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I'm planning another trip. I'll be back back

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in Ukraine soon, but

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sitting Cl little or ohio and in in

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a way, I,

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kinda of feel bad. Bad that, you know,

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guilt

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that I'm not doing enough that I cannot

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do more that I'm here and

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my cousins are on the battlefield and

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and understanding my my family is here. My

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wife is from Cleveland. I mean, she's America...

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She's is the Ukraine American.

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And I understand that there is just so

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much that I can do, but it's just

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never enough, you know, and it's a

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really

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difficult,

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very difficult

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emotionally,

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just that to to to to

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being in that state where

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you wanna do more... You understand that so

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much more needs to be done, but you

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just can't. You know, it's completely out of

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your control.

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Yeah.

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And there's

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there's some...

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Do you ever feel like you're living in

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a completely fucking

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upside down world.

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Like... Yeah.

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Yeah. People in America who say that we

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have no interest in that this is not

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our war, and some very smart people. People

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I know, very influential people

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who are very smart who are not bad

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people.

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Yeah. But very publicly come out and say

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this is not our war. This is not

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our problem.

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We've got broken bridges in the United States.

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We should build our own country,

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etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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And at the same time... Sorry. Go ahead.

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Go ahead, please. Yeah. No, Christopher This to

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extent, I understand the sentiment. I mean, I

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understand that

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people go locally here. I'm am a Us

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citizen. So I know what it is. I

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know that, you know, people have their

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troubles, the

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They have their pains, daily pains, but you

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have to understand that there is also

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sort of, you know, this in this world

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when we set up the priorities.

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We need to kind of,

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you know, build a level of priorities.

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And and so

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when we talk about the ultimate priority is

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is a human life dignity, this is why

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you know, our founding fathers, you know, the

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lagged liberty pursuit of happiness is these is

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sort of kind of a basic things

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that we build upon and

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if you complain you and me. I mean,

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like, just a regular American, we complain about,

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okay,

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our prices for food went up,

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by, let's say, 15 percent, which they did,

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and they did actually around the world. It's

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not only the American problem. You can blame

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biden Trump, whoever you wanna blame doesn't matter.

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Somebody's else's problem right now. My kid was

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killed.

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My wife was raped.

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My

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home was completely destroyed and he understand that

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the level

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is so much different. And then you go

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once step beyond, and you understand that,

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you know, this is

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close to the mass genocide on a on

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in our in our 20 first century.

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And you understand that literally, the world war

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2 pre world war 2

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scenario is being repeated, and that is if

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we don't stop this evil now. It will

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only be emboldened

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and, like, look, we can talk about this

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later on today. But

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if we don't stop Russian.

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If we reward them in any way in

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any way, for the aggression and genocide and

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all the what they have done,

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that gives

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a

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green light to every

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dictator

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every

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regime in this world to start their own

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little war and invasion.

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We're talking about China attacking Tay knowing that

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they will get something out of it that

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they will never be punished to the full

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extent that they should be. We can go

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iran doing the same thing, and you can

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just name it. I mean, you can name

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which countries will be next, and this is

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really opening the door for the real world

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war 3

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because

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every country that has this

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dictator tutorial

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or, you know, genocidal regime running it,

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will have

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a green light to do this on the

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mass scale. And

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when the evil is emboldened.

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I mean,

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then then real

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real trouble begins, and so we as Americans

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who sort of sit here in the safety

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and saying this is not our war. It

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will become our war. And but it will

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become such a war that it will be

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truly devastating and now

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you know, our loved ones

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here will be,

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involved in this. And

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we have seen this done in the past

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We have seen this done with Hitler

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when Chamberlain was trying the British prime minister

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at that time tried to appease him say,

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oh, you know, you can take just czech

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slovakia,

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You know, or you can take this in

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this part. You know, And then as a

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result, we had the full blown

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world war 2 because you gave them the

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permission. And this is exactly the same thing,

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and that's why

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all of this

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you know, garbage talk about the peace talks

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with Russia why you are not negotiating? How

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can you negotiate with somebody who came and

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put the hat to gun to your head

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and saying, hey, let me just blow up

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your brains, and you were like, oh, no.

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Don't blow up the whole brains, just, you

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know, shook my leg. I mean, they just

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it doesn't fit my,

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you know, brain of logic that this is

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this is not just

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Ukrainian war. This is something that concerns the

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whole humanity as such.

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I happen to agree with you with a

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thousand percent.

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My grandfather served in World War 2.

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And thanks to his generation,

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those of us in the western World in

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Western Europe Western war war world more broadly.

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We've lived a life of peace.

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Exactly. There was no war in Europe

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since World War 2.

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Until that horrible day.

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And

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what most Americans seem to don't seem to

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not understand,

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seem to have forgotten

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is that peace

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comes from 1 thing and 1 thing only.

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1 thing,

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strength.

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I live on the West Coast and here

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in

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Santa Cruz, California right near the ocean.

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And from time to time, I'll see a

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very large ship on the horizon

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and I'll wonder what it is.

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Is it a military ship? Is it a

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research ship?

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But here's what I don't wonder.

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Are they here to kill us?

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Because I know

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Yeah. That are all volunteer

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military

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keeps us safe.

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And

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what's happening in Ukraine

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is a crime against humanity.

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And what I don't understand

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is why

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the western world

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has forgotten

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that peace only comes through strength And to

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your point,

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When you let when you allow a warlord,

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and that's what that's what Putin is.

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He's a murderous.

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Evil,

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warlord,

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who does horrible things to his own people?

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Never mind

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to Ukrainians and others.

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And you don't keep them in check.

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Look, you don't have to be a social

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social and political expert

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to realize

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that part of why Hamas did what they

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did. The horrible attack

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is because ran new

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the Us

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and Western Europe

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were p.

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They weren't gonna do anything about it.

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And they haven't.

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Because,

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what we've allowed to take place

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in Ukraine.

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That's my opinion. And I'm curious as to

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your reaction. Oh, Christopher, I'm a hundred percent

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agree with you. I think that's exactly the

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kind of

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escalation. And people talk about the escalation, you

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know, if if we give weapons to Ukraine,

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the real guns and this and that then

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that will escalate the war and everything.

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No. It's the other way around as you

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pointed it out. If we don't give the

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weapons,

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if we don't build the military capacity to

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stop these

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thugs,

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then we get the escalation, how hamas is

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next.

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Who attacked Israel.

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China is next, that will attack Taiwan and

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you name it. You can go through the

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list of the countries that ever had an

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eye on certain piece of land. This will

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happen.

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That will be an

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escalation. The the reason is

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because there is not

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enough

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strength that is being shown

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upfront. And by the way, this is me

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speaking as an expert in the field. I

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a behavioral economist who studied conflict and conflict

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resolution all my life.

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And I've ran

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hundreds of experiments

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and studies and data analysis,

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looking at what's stops the conflict

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and stopping the conflict,

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is

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actually,

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it's a very

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simple

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idea, and that is when you have strength.

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When you have strength

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when 2 equal opponents calm understanding that they

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are very strong, equally capable. They will not

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engage in the conflict because they know that

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this will be a mutually painful for both

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of them.

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And the likelihood of winning, winning is gonna

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be so little. You're just gonna destroy each

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other. So as a result, you don't go

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against each other. And this is a very

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old idea. It's been published or over the

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academic literature it's been researched so well.

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I think the answer to your question why

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we have forgotten this

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is

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because we had so such a long piece

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in the world. And we sort of thought

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well, you know, since we have such peace,

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we have no need for strength anymore.

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And but putin did not forget that. He

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understood too. We saw this weakness, China will

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not forget this. Ham hamas will not forget

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this.

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And so,

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1 thing, and I'll tell you, Christopher. The

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1 thing that I think is really

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a positive that will come out out of

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the war is that

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the world

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has changed.

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Europe has changed.

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You know, we see the commitment the military

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commitment from Germany

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that

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previously would never have seen the such a

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commitment to the defense because of their history

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but nazis easy in the past. But now

561
00:21:47,291 --> 00:21:49,601
they understand that there is no other way

562
00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:52,328
around as to build a strong military

563
00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:56,563
production, the strong military force to,

564
00:21:57,602 --> 00:21:59,380
being able to repel

565
00:21:59,931 --> 00:22:02,786
Russia, and any other, you know, aggression in

566
00:22:02,786 --> 00:22:04,293
the future, and I'll tell you more,

567
00:22:05,007 --> 00:22:07,228
if Europe were to be attacked today,

568
00:22:08,438 --> 00:22:10,673
on a grand scale, with the russia of

569
00:22:10,673 --> 00:22:11,652
fully mobilizing

570
00:22:12,589 --> 00:22:13,089
their

571
00:22:13,547 --> 00:22:14,026
people.

572
00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:16,795
We're talking about millions of people. I think

573
00:22:17,073 --> 00:22:17,949
Europe would fall.

574
00:22:18,825 --> 00:22:21,612
And the reason is because Europe is not

575
00:22:21,612 --> 00:22:24,081
willing to pay the price, I don't think

576
00:22:24,081 --> 00:22:25,768
anybody is willing to pay such a prices,

577
00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:27,860
Ukrainians are paying today

578
00:22:28,235 --> 00:22:31,578
to truly, you know, repel this evil, and

579
00:22:32,055 --> 00:22:34,920
the... For Ukrainians it's a matter of survival.

580
00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:37,157
That's why they are doing what they're doing.

581
00:22:37,315 --> 00:22:40,012
There's no way... There's no other way. We

582
00:22:40,012 --> 00:22:42,392
either survive or we just die and being

583
00:22:42,392 --> 00:22:42,892
eradicated

584
00:22:43,358 --> 00:22:44,865
you know, as not easy at 1 point

585
00:22:44,865 --> 00:22:46,689
of time tried to eradicate juice, and that's

586
00:22:46,689 --> 00:22:48,854
as as simple as that. So there's no

587
00:22:49,544 --> 00:22:50,813
turning back for Ukraine.

588
00:22:51,462 --> 00:22:53,764
But for Europeans, I would actually feel that

589
00:22:53,764 --> 00:22:55,590
a lot of them besides the Balkan states,

590
00:22:55,828 --> 00:22:58,050
maybe Poland that would really put the fight.

591
00:22:58,527 --> 00:23:00,089
But, you know, I don't think

592
00:23:00,528 --> 00:23:02,283
I think we would be really screwed, but

593
00:23:02,283 --> 00:23:04,756
this is changing, and that's 1 reason it's

594
00:23:04,756 --> 00:23:07,547
changing is because of Russia itself and the

595
00:23:07,547 --> 00:23:10,075
aggression and I think that that's a good

596
00:23:10,194 --> 00:23:11,887
saying that we

597
00:23:12,501 --> 00:23:14,648
understand that we cannot rely only in the

598
00:23:14,887 --> 00:23:18,327
United States anymore. We need strong Europe. We

599
00:23:18,327 --> 00:23:19,285
need to have a,

600
00:23:20,083 --> 00:23:23,036
a strong commitment that 2 percent, 3 percent

601
00:23:23,036 --> 00:23:26,204
of your Gdp commitment to nato that we

602
00:23:26,324 --> 00:23:28,392
you know, the... We should have been committed

603
00:23:28,392 --> 00:23:31,596
from the very beginning, and I think nobody's

604
00:23:31,733 --> 00:23:34,539
questioning that anymore. And that's a good thing.

605
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:36,859
I, a thousand percent agree,

606
00:23:37,659 --> 00:23:38,539
several years ago,

607
00:23:39,819 --> 00:23:41,795
Jacob Dillon, the son of Bob Dylan, who's

608
00:23:42,234 --> 00:23:43,830
wonderful musician in his own right,

609
00:23:44,469 --> 00:23:45,847
wrote a song called Evil

610
00:23:46,385 --> 00:23:47,582
is alive and well.

611
00:23:48,939 --> 00:23:49,179
Yeah.

612
00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,066
And there's a, quote, that has been in

613
00:23:52,066 --> 00:23:53,284
my head nonstop

614
00:23:53,741 --> 00:23:54,936
since the beginning of the war,

615
00:23:56,372 --> 00:23:58,205
and everything that has come since then. It's

616
00:23:58,205 --> 00:23:59,503
from an author who's

617
00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:01,087
retired marine marine,

618
00:24:01,961 --> 00:24:03,153
named G Michael Hof.

619
00:24:03,947 --> 00:24:05,401
And he says hard times

620
00:24:05,855 --> 00:24:06,808
create strong men.

621
00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:08,339
Strong men,

622
00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:10,019
create good times.

623
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:11,619
Good times.

624
00:24:12,339 --> 00:24:13,299
Create weak men,

625
00:24:13,859 --> 00:24:14,740
and weak men,

626
00:24:15,539 --> 00:24:16,579
create hard times.

627
00:24:17,074 --> 00:24:18,853
Yeah. And 1 of the things

628
00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:21,570
that fur me

629
00:24:22,188 --> 00:24:24,825
is this fucked position the United States takes,

630
00:24:24,985 --> 00:24:27,631
which is we will support our allies in

631
00:24:27,631 --> 00:24:28,268
defense only.

632
00:24:29,383 --> 00:24:31,932
Yeah. As long as it takes. That's also

633
00:24:31,932 --> 00:24:33,526
the 1. Yeah. We don't care how many

634
00:24:33,526 --> 00:24:34,163
of you die.

635
00:24:35,294 --> 00:24:37,531
Will will to you dying forever.

636
00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:39,848
But when fucking Iran,

637
00:24:41,047 --> 00:24:42,026
attacks Israel

638
00:24:42,738 --> 00:24:45,437
Yeah. With a barrage of rockets like had

639
00:24:45,437 --> 00:24:47,025
never been seen before.

640
00:24:48,692 --> 00:24:50,518
And thanks to iron dome,

641
00:24:51,964 --> 00:24:53,722
I believe there was only 1 death?

642
00:24:54,281 --> 00:24:57,157
Yeah. It was incredible. Incredible. And what does

643
00:24:57,157 --> 00:24:58,755
the Us government say?

644
00:24:59,569 --> 00:25:02,529
The Us government tells Netanyahu to take the

645
00:25:02,529 --> 00:25:03,649
victory and stand down.

646
00:25:05,009 --> 00:25:06,630
On what fucking planet

647
00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:10,454
if somebody launched a quarter of that, at

648
00:25:10,614 --> 00:25:13,484
New York or La or San Francisco or

649
00:25:13,484 --> 00:25:15,637
pick your city. Down, you know, in and

650
00:25:15,637 --> 00:25:17,665
and do that Isis killed

651
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,156
3000

652
00:25:19,315 --> 00:25:19,815
Americans,

653
00:25:20,191 --> 00:25:22,182
and we blew up fucking 2 countries.

654
00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:24,195
It's insanity.

655
00:25:25,221 --> 00:25:27,047
Yeah. And you see it in our country.

656
00:25:27,603 --> 00:25:29,111
You see it in the in the ethos

657
00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:30,064
that has taken place,

658
00:25:30,858 --> 00:25:31,969
def fund the police.

659
00:25:32,779 --> 00:25:35,200
That's I live in the most pro criminal

660
00:25:35,339 --> 00:25:37,099
state in the United States.

661
00:25:38,059 --> 00:25:40,220
Kamala Harris, the current vice president of the

662
00:25:40,299 --> 00:25:42,240
United States is the most pro criminal

663
00:25:42,712 --> 00:25:43,212
Ag.

664
00:25:43,985 --> 00:25:46,291
In the history of the United States, she

665
00:25:46,291 --> 00:25:48,915
championed 2 major laws here in California, prop

666
00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:49,551
47,

667
00:25:49,869 --> 00:25:50,903
and prop 57,

668
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:54,126
both of which had a material impact on

669
00:25:54,823 --> 00:25:56,499
reducing penalties for criminals,

670
00:25:57,297 --> 00:25:57,797
d,

671
00:25:58,814 --> 00:25:59,931
making crime legal,

672
00:26:00,664 --> 00:26:02,737
We let murderers out in 15 years. We

673
00:26:02,737 --> 00:26:04,332
let Rap us out in 3 to 4

674
00:26:04,332 --> 00:26:07,441
years. And in our town, if you get

675
00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:09,195
caught with illegal weapons,

676
00:26:09,848 --> 00:26:13,119
stolen money and enough fentanyl to kill 4000

677
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,034
people, you get build out on the same

678
00:26:15,034 --> 00:26:16,310
day with 10000 dollars.

679
00:26:17,363 --> 00:26:18,959
Thing. We... There are people in our country,

680
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,794
who we think all jail should be shut.

681
00:26:21,832 --> 00:26:22,949
There are people in our country who think,

682
00:26:23,348 --> 00:26:24,625
they're are no bad people.

683
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:28,075
You see. They're just good people who who

684
00:26:28,075 --> 00:26:28,874
were repressed.

685
00:26:29,433 --> 00:26:31,830
They had a... It was society's fault.

686
00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:34,176
Because they grew up in the wrong neighborhood.

687
00:26:34,711 --> 00:26:35,904
They were the wrong color.

688
00:26:36,382 --> 00:26:38,394
They were oppressed by the system.

689
00:26:38,928 --> 00:26:41,011
And so the fact that they're an axe

690
00:26:41,011 --> 00:26:43,419
murdering Man act fucking sis

691
00:26:43,873 --> 00:26:44,667
crazy fuck.

692
00:26:45,462 --> 00:26:47,132
Is our fault then we should let them

693
00:26:47,132 --> 00:26:48,324
out and give them jobs.

694
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:50,110
And

695
00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:52,307
it may sound like a stretch to some.

696
00:26:52,942 --> 00:26:54,076
But this thinking

697
00:26:54,687 --> 00:26:55,901
is the same thinking

698
00:26:56,368 --> 00:26:58,676
that allows potent, this thinking is the same

699
00:26:58,676 --> 00:27:00,051
thinking that allows

700
00:27:00,665 --> 00:27:02,256
iran. And to your point on the studies,

701
00:27:02,495 --> 00:27:02,733
Roman,

702
00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:04,802
here's the aha for me.

703
00:27:05,692 --> 00:27:06,964
So I have a martial artist.

704
00:27:08,712 --> 00:27:10,223
And 1 of the reasons I got trained

705
00:27:10,223 --> 00:27:11,575
in Martial arts is I had in a

706
00:27:11,575 --> 00:27:13,164
aha 1 day and the aha went like

707
00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:13,403
this.

708
00:27:15,009 --> 00:27:17,650
If I'm not trained to defend myself and

709
00:27:17,650 --> 00:27:18,369
those around me.

710
00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:21,890
Then my safety and security is a function

711
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:23,650
of your behavior because I don't have much

712
00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:24,289
to say about it.

713
00:27:25,022 --> 00:27:26,851
Right. And I thought fuck that.

714
00:27:27,487 --> 00:27:28,999
I'm going to train myself so that I

715
00:27:28,999 --> 00:27:30,431
have a lot to say about it.

716
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,480
And we had this interesting, and and it's

717
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,839
changed who I am as a person.

718
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,320
I also had 1 of my best friends

719
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,400
murdered in a 3AM home invasion.

720
00:27:40,134 --> 00:27:41,093
By 4 killers.

721
00:27:42,771 --> 00:27:44,130
So while I haven't lived through war,

722
00:27:45,328 --> 00:27:47,027
I know what it's like to have evil

723
00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:48,125
visited upon you.

724
00:27:48,858 --> 00:27:49,337
Sure.

725
00:27:51,887 --> 00:27:53,641
And people don't understand, you don't need a

726
00:27:53,641 --> 00:27:56,272
fucking study from AAA

727
00:27:56,272 --> 00:27:56,590
professor.

728
00:27:57,244 --> 00:27:59,005
To tell you that peaceful only comes through

729
00:27:59,005 --> 00:27:59,244
strength.

730
00:27:59,884 --> 00:28:01,184
The other day we were walking

731
00:28:01,724 --> 00:28:03,724
on a main main area in town.

732
00:28:05,404 --> 00:28:05,904
And

733
00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:07,259
I was with a buddy,

734
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:09,580
and my wife and his wife were up

735
00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:10,940
ahead of us. They were chatting. We were

736
00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:11,180
chatting.

737
00:28:12,299 --> 00:28:14,140
And as we were walking by, there was

738
00:28:14,140 --> 00:28:15,440
2 older women

739
00:28:15,914 --> 00:28:18,308
probably in their mid seventies, maybe early eighties

740
00:28:18,308 --> 00:28:19,106
walking together.

741
00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:22,298
And there were 2 douche bags.

742
00:28:23,829 --> 00:28:25,583
Like douche real serious criminals,

743
00:28:26,061 --> 00:28:27,257
meth heads, fucker,

744
00:28:28,213 --> 00:28:29,967
and they start saying horrible things to these

745
00:28:29,967 --> 00:28:31,801
women, disgusting things to these women.

746
00:28:33,493 --> 00:28:35,091
And the women were slightly ahead of me

747
00:28:35,091 --> 00:28:36,230
sort of in between

748
00:28:36,769 --> 00:28:37,589
me and

749
00:28:38,367 --> 00:28:39,726
my wife and my buddy's wife.

750
00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:42,700
So I immediately picked up my pace.

751
00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:46,779
I stared right in the eye of the

752
00:28:46,779 --> 00:28:47,660
ins indicator of it.

753
00:28:48,391 --> 00:28:50,530
And I gave him a very particular kind

754
00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:51,085
of look.

755
00:28:52,511 --> 00:28:54,650
And then I walked next to the women.

756
00:28:55,698 --> 00:28:57,213
I introduced myself. I said, hi. My name

757
00:28:57,213 --> 00:28:59,127
is Christopher. How are you? And they said,

758
00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:00,882
fine. How are you?

759
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,434
And I said, just keep walking with me

760
00:29:03,434 --> 00:29:04,631
and pretend we know each other.

761
00:29:05,999 --> 00:29:06,794
And guess what?

762
00:29:07,431 --> 00:29:09,124
The evil fox stood down

763
00:29:09,976 --> 00:29:11,487
because he knew, by the way I looked

764
00:29:11,487 --> 00:29:11,806
at him,

765
00:29:12,617 --> 00:29:14,371
that if he was gonna do anything to

766
00:29:14,371 --> 00:29:16,045
those women, it was gonna be a very

767
00:29:16,045 --> 00:29:16,683
bad day for him.

768
00:29:18,197 --> 00:29:19,791
And you know the amazing thing about that,

769
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,229
Not only do human beings understand it?

770
00:29:24,661 --> 00:29:25,377
Animals do.

771
00:29:26,491 --> 00:29:27,548
I had a dog

772
00:29:29,373 --> 00:29:30,488
attack 1 of my hands,

773
00:29:31,843 --> 00:29:33,356
chasing it down the driveway.

774
00:29:34,074 --> 00:29:36,942
I screamed at that dog and went chasing

775
00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:38,873
after it the dog coulda have got the

776
00:29:38,873 --> 00:29:40,950
hand before me because obviously, the dogs faster

777
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:43,108
than me. That it was a big dog.

778
00:29:44,306 --> 00:29:45,446
The dog stopped

779
00:29:46,158 --> 00:29:48,858
turned around, I was screaming at it, and

780
00:29:49,017 --> 00:29:51,400
I was going to rip it limb from

781
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:51,638
limb,

782
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:54,124
and it took a shit

783
00:29:54,433 --> 00:29:56,575
in my driveway and screen home.

784
00:29:58,637 --> 00:29:59,986
And so my point is you don't have

785
00:29:59,986 --> 00:30:01,200
to be a psychologist

786
00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:02,408
a psychiatrist,

787
00:30:03,263 --> 00:30:05,996
an expert in war, an expert geopolitical,

788
00:30:06,612 --> 00:30:08,845
all you have to know is how the

789
00:30:08,845 --> 00:30:09,882
rules of the jungle word.

790
00:30:10,854 --> 00:30:13,167
Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a such a

791
00:30:13,167 --> 00:30:13,667
simple,

792
00:30:15,161 --> 00:30:17,155
you know, it's a such a simple rule.

793
00:30:17,394 --> 00:30:18,989
And I I had... By the way, I

794
00:30:18,989 --> 00:30:20,265
had a similar story.

795
00:30:21,637 --> 00:30:23,734
3 months ago. There was still a semester

796
00:30:24,591 --> 00:30:26,746
students were at school. I was teaching a

797
00:30:26,746 --> 00:30:29,082
course at Keith Western. So I

798
00:30:30,591 --> 00:30:32,818
went to school, and then I wasn't on

799
00:30:32,818 --> 00:30:34,967
lunch break. I went to Chipotle to grab

800
00:30:34,967 --> 00:30:36,580
a burrito and and

801
00:30:37,528 --> 00:30:39,281
I walk out out of the Chipotle.

802
00:30:39,998 --> 00:30:40,498
And

803
00:30:42,069 --> 00:30:44,872
and this lady is running again like, lilly,

804
00:30:45,191 --> 00:30:47,104
guy zooms on the bike right next to

805
00:30:47,104 --> 00:30:49,415
me. And the lady running after him and

806
00:30:49,415 --> 00:30:49,894
she's like,

807
00:30:51,169 --> 00:30:53,890
stop him. He has my phone, so the

808
00:30:53,890 --> 00:30:55,401
guy stole the phone from the lady.

809
00:30:56,037 --> 00:30:57,309
And you know what shocked me?

810
00:30:59,377 --> 00:31:01,444
First thing that shocked me that nobody was

811
00:31:01,444 --> 00:31:02,081
doing anything.

812
00:31:03,848 --> 00:31:06,955
People just staring there and standing and, like,

813
00:31:07,354 --> 00:31:07,672
okay.

814
00:31:08,469 --> 00:31:10,222
You know? And and what another thing they

815
00:31:10,222 --> 00:31:12,386
shocked me is just my own. Yeah. Action

816
00:31:12,386 --> 00:31:13,204
is that

817
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,916
at the first... My first kind of knee

818
00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:19,634
jerk reaction was, well, let's please job. Right?

819
00:31:19,873 --> 00:31:22,027
Somebody has to do something, and and, you

820
00:31:22,027 --> 00:31:22,505
know, I...

821
00:31:23,701 --> 00:31:25,057
But at the same time, you know,

822
00:31:25,775 --> 00:31:28,088
maybe because I went through this war experience,

823
00:31:28,327 --> 00:31:29,067
I've seen

824
00:31:29,939 --> 00:31:31,377
horror in the past 2 years,

825
00:31:32,335 --> 00:31:34,573
I'm like, screw this, you know, if I

826
00:31:34,573 --> 00:31:35,291
don't do anything,

827
00:31:35,931 --> 00:31:38,181
nobody will do anything. And so I actually,

828
00:31:38,819 --> 00:31:40,813
dropped my back and actually 2 of my

829
00:31:40,813 --> 00:31:41,711
students were

830
00:31:42,169 --> 00:31:44,322
rights then they were just walking and Again,

831
00:31:44,481 --> 00:31:46,849
like, hey guys watch this. So I actually

832
00:31:47,287 --> 00:31:49,117
sprinted and ran after the guy on the

833
00:31:49,117 --> 00:31:49,356
bike.

834
00:31:51,346 --> 00:31:52,300
The the thing is he was...

835
00:31:53,414 --> 00:31:55,184
I caught up with him. Now the crazy

836
00:31:55,184 --> 00:31:56,382
thing, I don't know if it was just

837
00:31:56,382 --> 00:31:59,499
a horrible bike rider, obviously, you know, but

838
00:31:59,579 --> 00:32:01,097
I I it used to be sprinter, so

839
00:32:01,177 --> 00:32:02,776
I used to to run pretty well, you

840
00:32:02,776 --> 00:32:03,755
know? And so

841
00:32:04,228 --> 00:32:05,584
I cut up with them and,

842
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:08,535
right before I cut up with him, you

843
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:10,631
know, he threw the phone on the ground

844
00:32:11,646 --> 00:32:13,342
because, you know, you didn't wanna

845
00:32:14,451 --> 00:32:16,280
anyway, so I can't cut up with him.

846
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:18,428
I catch him and, of course,

847
00:32:20,910 --> 00:32:22,670
I I told him, like, hey, if you

848
00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:24,670
don't get away the phone, you know, I'm

849
00:32:24,670 --> 00:32:25,150
just gonna...

850
00:32:25,789 --> 00:32:28,350
I I didn't proceed with any violence because

851
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:29,470
of the things that you sent.

852
00:32:30,521 --> 00:32:33,469
I'm like, dude, they can prosecute me for

853
00:32:33,469 --> 00:32:33,947
doing this.

854
00:32:35,381 --> 00:32:37,532
You know, for me stopping the criminal,

855
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:39,068
they can actually

856
00:32:39,778 --> 00:32:42,481
go after me and say, well, you committed

857
00:32:42,481 --> 00:32:45,025
violence he had no threats against you and

858
00:32:45,025 --> 00:32:47,252
and and then I'm, you know, and I

859
00:32:47,252 --> 00:32:48,683
actually the ran through my mind.

860
00:32:49,413 --> 00:32:52,454
So, you know, I would be at fault

861
00:32:52,827 --> 00:32:55,210
for doing something good. And so eventually, when

862
00:32:55,289 --> 00:32:57,354
I reported to police and I went to

863
00:32:57,354 --> 00:32:58,092
the university,

864
00:32:58,798 --> 00:33:00,786
and I took half of my day, you

865
00:33:00,786 --> 00:33:02,854
know, the time for doing the right thing.

866
00:33:03,013 --> 00:33:05,160
I had, like, I spent 3 or 4

867
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,148
hours of my time for doing the right

868
00:33:07,148 --> 00:33:08,102
thing explaining.

869
00:33:08,913 --> 00:33:10,901
You know, why what I have done and

870
00:33:10,901 --> 00:33:13,072
why this and this and the police

871
00:33:13,526 --> 00:33:14,958
officer that I spoke to,

872
00:33:15,769 --> 00:33:17,769
You said, you should not have done that.

873
00:33:20,089 --> 00:33:22,250
And that that's that's right me off. You

874
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:24,569
know? Well and like there it is. Right?

875
00:33:26,494 --> 00:33:27,312
Judge Judy

876
00:33:27,924 --> 00:33:29,355
that has this great expression.

877
00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:31,660
She says, don't piss on my leg and

878
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:32,296
tell me it's raining.

879
00:33:33,346 --> 00:33:35,337
Yeah. So don't don't stand there and tell

880
00:33:35,337 --> 00:33:37,010
me up as down and down is up.

881
00:33:37,807 --> 00:33:38,683
This is a criminal.

882
00:33:40,054 --> 00:33:42,289
This is a criminal who stole something, a

883
00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:44,364
thousand dollar thing, and you're saying don't do

884
00:33:44,364 --> 00:33:46,999
anything about it. Now, should you beat him

885
00:33:46,999 --> 00:33:48,675
to an inch of his life, probably not.

886
00:33:49,568 --> 00:33:50,286
Should you kill him?

887
00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:52,519
That might be a little extreme.

888
00:33:53,237 --> 00:33:55,470
Yeah. But you know what? If you knock

889
00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:56,906
him off the bike and he breaks a

890
00:33:56,906 --> 00:33:58,501
couple ribs and gets a concussion,

891
00:34:00,031 --> 00:34:00,829
That'll learn you.

892
00:34:02,185 --> 00:34:03,860
That'll get me jail. You know, and that's

893
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:05,455
the thing. I don't wanna have any... You

894
00:34:05,455 --> 00:34:07,529
know, I've have a clean record and always

895
00:34:07,529 --> 00:34:08,348
been a very

896
00:34:09,059 --> 00:34:10,725
civil abiding citizen. You know,

897
00:34:11,757 --> 00:34:13,344
you can put me in the Cia. I

898
00:34:13,344 --> 00:34:16,518
have never, you know, broken any laws. But

899
00:34:16,518 --> 00:34:18,998
the thing is that you know, the incidents

900
00:34:18,998 --> 00:34:19,737
like this

901
00:34:20,751 --> 00:34:23,060
can work against me for a lifetime. And

902
00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:24,653
for doing the right thing. And I was

903
00:34:24,653 --> 00:34:25,768
shocked that that was like,

904
00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:29,539
the the advice of the police officer, you

905
00:34:29,539 --> 00:34:31,140
said, we will do our job, and I'm

906
00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:32,760
like, well, but if we all

907
00:34:33,059 --> 00:34:34,360
succumb to this sort of

908
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:37,935
attitude, of not the ending, and just the

909
00:34:37,935 --> 00:34:39,922
people on the streets. I mean, then then

910
00:34:39,922 --> 00:34:42,250
really these stocks will take over. And

911
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,584
And on the grand scale, that's exactly what

912
00:34:45,744 --> 00:34:47,574
Putin is doing, and I think that's a...

913
00:34:47,733 --> 00:34:49,826
These are perfect scenarios that we

914
00:34:50,694 --> 00:34:52,687
on a daily life, and then just goes

915
00:34:52,687 --> 00:34:55,317
to Hamas goes to, you know, Russia goes

916
00:34:55,317 --> 00:34:57,332
to China. And so this is why

917
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:00,934
for me, what what

918
00:35:01,472 --> 00:35:01,972
really

919
00:35:02,508 --> 00:35:04,742
bugs my mind is that people some people

920
00:35:04,742 --> 00:35:06,656
just don't get it. I mean, like, I

921
00:35:06,656 --> 00:35:08,671
think the average American doesn't. They've never

922
00:35:09,698 --> 00:35:11,763
experienced any kind of physical threat.

923
00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:14,145
Now,

924
00:35:15,178 --> 00:35:17,243
I also wanna ask you there people learned

925
00:35:17,243 --> 00:35:19,347
people, smart people, people who

926
00:35:20,757 --> 00:35:22,986
are arguably not bad people, Maybe even people

927
00:35:22,986 --> 00:35:24,340
who are good people who say you know

928
00:35:24,340 --> 00:35:25,215
what for fuck sakes.

929
00:35:26,664 --> 00:35:28,662
This or is America's fault.

930
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:31,858
We pushed it too far with saying that

931
00:35:32,098 --> 00:35:33,217
Ukraine could come to

932
00:35:33,856 --> 00:35:34,255
nato,

933
00:35:35,547 --> 00:35:37,217
Russia has made it very clear. There's a

934
00:35:37,217 --> 00:35:38,171
line in the sand there,

935
00:35:39,205 --> 00:35:39,705
blinking

936
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:44,374
you know, rattled the saber too many times.

937
00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:44,851
Mh.

938
00:35:46,301 --> 00:35:48,853
Putin is paranoid about this, some say with

939
00:35:48,853 --> 00:35:49,331
good reason.

940
00:35:50,688 --> 00:35:52,522
So that's the first piece. Right? That that

941
00:35:52,522 --> 00:35:54,675
that the collective we, whether it's Ukraine,

942
00:35:55,409 --> 00:35:58,365
asking or United States saying, yeah. We think

943
00:35:58,365 --> 00:35:58,525
so,

944
00:35:59,804 --> 00:36:00,304
threatening

945
00:36:00,682 --> 00:36:02,441
threatening Russian this way. That's kind of pointing.

946
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,770
Point b. They also say, look, now that

947
00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:05,648
we are where we are.

948
00:36:06,923 --> 00:36:08,439
Just give him what he fucking wants.

949
00:36:09,157 --> 00:36:10,513
You know, He wants a third of the

950
00:36:10,513 --> 00:36:12,188
country or whatever the whatever he is, he

951
00:36:12,188 --> 00:36:14,278
wants Don and crimean me and well, I

952
00:36:14,278 --> 00:36:16,195
don't, you know better than me. Whatever the

953
00:36:16,195 --> 00:36:18,672
fuck is Putin wants. He's had some gains

954
00:36:18,672 --> 00:36:20,565
of of of territory. It's 2

955
00:36:21,084 --> 00:36:22,922
costly of lives to give it back. So

956
00:36:22,922 --> 00:36:24,360
if he wants a quarter of the country,

957
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,000
give it to them,

958
00:36:26,198 --> 00:36:28,116
and everything will just be fine. What do

959
00:36:28,116 --> 00:36:29,075
you say about that, Roman?

960
00:36:29,728 --> 00:36:31,475
So let's start with the first 1. So

961
00:36:31,475 --> 00:36:33,301
the first 1 as far as the motivation

962
00:36:33,301 --> 00:36:35,286
goes. Right? Why did the war begin? And

963
00:36:35,286 --> 00:36:35,525
so,

964
00:36:36,319 --> 00:36:38,145
obviously, the favorite piece of propaganda again. I

965
00:36:38,145 --> 00:36:39,987
mean, there are many. So there's not in

966
00:36:40,385 --> 00:36:41,361
Ukraine. There's,

967
00:36:41,735 --> 00:36:44,039
you know, nato threatened in Russia. I mean,

968
00:36:44,278 --> 00:36:46,344
obviously, these are all forced false narratives,

969
00:36:46,979 --> 00:36:47,479
they

970
00:36:48,189 --> 00:36:49,867
you know what? The actual...

971
00:36:50,985 --> 00:36:52,902
The piece of evidence that I would wanna

972
00:36:52,902 --> 00:36:55,060
offer from the president the frustrated itself.

973
00:36:55,634 --> 00:36:58,128
And I'm actually gonna ask and urge

974
00:36:58,505 --> 00:37:01,297
everybody who have not watched the interview of

975
00:37:01,377 --> 00:37:02,275
Tucker Carlson

976
00:37:02,812 --> 00:37:05,778
with Putin just to watch it. I mean,

977
00:37:05,858 --> 00:37:06,917
it's a piece of propaganda,

978
00:37:07,454 --> 00:37:10,349
but that propaganda piece actually backfired

979
00:37:10,727 --> 00:37:13,701
for Tucker Carlson and everybody else because putin

980
00:37:14,093 --> 00:37:16,081
When Tucker was trying to push him, say,

981
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,388
hey, it's not it's nato. It's nato. Tell

982
00:37:18,388 --> 00:37:20,297
me that it's nato, that it's nato attacking.

983
00:37:20,456 --> 00:37:21,728
And putin and said, no, Let's go to

984
00:37:21,728 --> 00:37:22,206
the history.

985
00:37:23,494 --> 00:37:25,087
Ukraine is Russian,

986
00:37:25,884 --> 00:37:28,671
and Ukraine shouldn't exist as a nation, and

987
00:37:28,909 --> 00:37:30,922
Ukraine is basically putting

988
00:37:31,474 --> 00:37:33,013
laid it out bluntly

989
00:37:33,871 --> 00:37:37,786
that he wants for Ukrainian nation to... Does

990
00:37:37,786 --> 00:37:38,905
to not to exist.

991
00:37:40,037 --> 00:37:40,516
And

992
00:37:41,394 --> 00:37:43,489
this is an old imperialist

993
00:37:43,947 --> 00:37:46,282
worldview view for putting the greatest

994
00:37:48,429 --> 00:37:51,141
mistake of the twentieth century has been the

995
00:37:51,141 --> 00:37:53,375
fall of the Soviet union. He mentioned that

996
00:37:53,375 --> 00:37:56,166
many, many times, he wants to restore the

997
00:37:56,166 --> 00:37:56,666
empire

998
00:37:56,979 --> 00:38:00,246
that is the motivation. Now other piece of

999
00:38:00,246 --> 00:38:00,724
evidence,

1000
00:38:01,521 --> 00:38:03,035
ukrainians didn't wanna go to nato.

1001
00:38:05,202 --> 00:38:06,798
Since 19 91,

1002
00:38:07,038 --> 00:38:09,671
there was less than 20 percent support joining

1003
00:38:09,671 --> 00:38:11,107
nato by Ukrainians.

1004
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,440
In 2014

1005
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,119
when Russia and ex Crimea,

1006
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,320
that number by... I mean, we're talking about

1007
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,960
dozens of polls has risen to 50 percent.

1008
00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:22,670
Then

1009
00:38:23,203 --> 00:38:25,664
since 20 22, now it's 90 percent.

1010
00:38:26,459 --> 00:38:27,992
So the Ukrainians

1011
00:38:28,365 --> 00:38:31,898
strive to join Nato comes as a consequence

1012
00:38:32,830 --> 00:38:33,728
of Russia

1013
00:38:34,182 --> 00:38:36,967
attacking and being in an aggressive, not the

1014
00:38:36,967 --> 00:38:39,767
other way around. And if putin was didn't

1015
00:38:39,767 --> 00:38:41,918
want so much for Nato to expand. I

1016
00:38:41,918 --> 00:38:44,466
mean, he did it himself. Finland right now

1017
00:38:44,466 --> 00:38:46,695
has doubled the border with Nato for putin.

1018
00:38:47,029 --> 00:38:49,264
And why he's not doing anything there. Funny.

1019
00:38:49,424 --> 00:38:51,978
He didn't invade Finland didn't he. Alright. Why

1020
00:38:51,978 --> 00:38:54,373
not If if if if Nato was the

1021
00:38:54,373 --> 00:38:54,873
rate

1022
00:38:55,331 --> 00:38:55,490
motivation.

1023
00:38:57,021 --> 00:38:58,717
Yeah So so this is a bogus

1024
00:38:59,174 --> 00:39:01,885
false narrative. That useful idiots will share and

1025
00:39:01,885 --> 00:39:03,958
kind of point out that don't understand the

1026
00:39:03,958 --> 00:39:06,148
history with the pre pretext And even sometimes

1027
00:39:06,206 --> 00:39:09,715
some really smart people like jazz, a Jeffrey,

1028
00:39:09,954 --> 00:39:11,788
Sachs and others, you know, that I just,

1029
00:39:11,948 --> 00:39:13,623
like, I just don't get he's economist it's

1030
00:39:13,623 --> 00:39:16,820
pretty well known. Economist cited just like me,

1031
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,205
you know, I... Yeah, that has actually brains.

1032
00:39:19,841 --> 00:39:20,318
So

1033
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:22,328
I I

1034
00:39:22,878 --> 00:39:25,114
whether he's been brain to certain standards he's

1035
00:39:25,114 --> 00:39:26,710
just not his field He never studied the

1036
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:28,865
history or whatever it is, but it's just

1037
00:39:28,865 --> 00:39:30,621
a false narrative. Now going back to your

1038
00:39:30,621 --> 00:39:33,422
second point. And the second point is, okay.

1039
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:34,956
We are where we at

1040
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,193
to let just give putin, you know, and

1041
00:39:38,193 --> 00:39:39,307
let's stop this blood chat.

1042
00:39:40,036 --> 00:39:43,390
Well, we already covered that at somewhere and

1043
00:39:43,525 --> 00:39:45,427
closer to the beginning of of the show

1044
00:39:45,427 --> 00:39:47,116
is that if we

1045
00:39:47,904 --> 00:39:50,621
appease the grass. If we impose in them.

1046
00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:54,617
What will happen is there will be just

1047
00:39:54,617 --> 00:39:56,775
new aggression to come because now, you know,

1048
00:39:57,348 --> 00:40:00,217
you start aggression and you get rewarded for

1049
00:40:00,217 --> 00:40:00,376
it.

1050
00:40:01,572 --> 00:40:03,723
Right? So the next thing, why not a

1051
00:40:03,723 --> 00:40:04,360
attack Alaska?

1052
00:40:05,012 --> 00:40:07,237
I mean, of course, this is ridiculous notion,

1053
00:40:07,317 --> 00:40:09,860
but why not? And that actually black male

1054
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:12,164
was a nuclear threat to Russia again, to

1055
00:40:12,403 --> 00:40:14,808
United States this time. Saying, hey, you know,

1056
00:40:14,968 --> 00:40:16,805
and by the way, Alaska was Russian landed

1057
00:40:16,805 --> 00:40:17,604
at 1 point of time.

1058
00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:21,770
So why not? You know, or just attack

1059
00:40:21,770 --> 00:40:23,914
both the countries or other countries. If you

1060
00:40:23,914 --> 00:40:25,980
really wanna fuck the Us. Attack Canada.

1061
00:40:26,774 --> 00:40:28,680
Here we go. Canada would fall in 5

1062
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,077
seconds.

1063
00:40:29,809 --> 00:40:31,809
Here we go. The Canadian military is

1064
00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:34,849
4 guys, 2 Canoe and a couple of

1065
00:40:34,849 --> 00:40:35,650
cases of Mo.

1066
00:40:36,784 --> 00:40:38,378
And and and there's no...

1067
00:40:39,095 --> 00:40:41,565
And there is there's... And you get rewarded

1068
00:40:41,565 --> 00:40:44,057
for that because you create a precedent

1069
00:40:44,847 --> 00:40:46,835
Imagine... Okay. Let's let's go back to our

1070
00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:48,902
level what we discuss on the civil side.

1071
00:40:49,221 --> 00:40:51,629
So imagine a guy robbing a bank

1072
00:40:53,694 --> 00:40:54,974
And we are saying you know what?

1073
00:40:55,855 --> 00:40:57,135
We don't wanna escalate this.

1074
00:40:57,934 --> 00:41:00,094
So out of the fifth 10000000 dollars that

1075
00:41:00,094 --> 00:41:01,855
you wrote for the bank, keep a million

1076
00:41:01,855 --> 00:41:02,355
dollar

1077
00:41:02,907 --> 00:41:03,942
you know, it can go.

1078
00:41:04,976 --> 00:41:07,601
Guess what happens next. The whole United States

1079
00:41:07,601 --> 00:41:09,565
is in fire, every bank will be attacked

1080
00:41:10,162 --> 00:41:12,815
because every robber knows that if they go

1081
00:41:13,032 --> 00:41:15,265
and, you know, being caught, and then they

1082
00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:18,077
can go with certain them out. Already happened

1083
00:41:18,788 --> 00:41:19,767
Welcome to California.

1084
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:23,414
Why do you think all the major retailers

1085
00:41:23,414 --> 00:41:24,611
left San Francisco?

1086
00:41:25,329 --> 00:41:27,822
Because when a of 40 people walks

1087
00:41:28,454 --> 00:41:31,155
for media recently that, you know, they literally

1088
00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:32,291
legalize legalized the

1089
00:41:32,983 --> 00:41:33,721
the the

1090
00:41:34,174 --> 00:41:36,637
purchase of the stolen stuff that just insane.

1091
00:41:37,529 --> 00:41:38,748
Well, and and

1092
00:41:39,128 --> 00:41:41,205
the other thing is... Okay. So crime under

1093
00:41:41,205 --> 00:41:43,922
a thousand dollars is is actually legalized in

1094
00:41:44,082 --> 00:41:44,582
California?

1095
00:41:45,201 --> 00:41:46,754
That's correct. And

1096
00:41:47,293 --> 00:41:48,012
here's the other thing.

1097
00:41:48,731 --> 00:41:50,829
So for most individuals, their

1098
00:41:51,208 --> 00:41:52,267
car, their vehicle

1099
00:41:52,646 --> 00:41:54,975
is either their number 1 asset or number

1100
00:41:54,975 --> 00:41:57,126
2 asset compared to their house for most

1101
00:41:57,126 --> 00:41:57,364
people.

1102
00:41:58,718 --> 00:42:00,630
You call the police in the state of

1103
00:42:00,709 --> 00:42:01,209
California

1104
00:42:02,063 --> 00:42:02,461
and say,

1105
00:42:03,033 --> 00:42:04,465
Someone just stole my car.

1106
00:42:05,817 --> 00:42:08,442
They email you a Url so you can

1107
00:42:08,442 --> 00:42:09,317
fill out a form.

1108
00:42:10,286 --> 00:42:11,478
And then nothing happens.

1109
00:42:12,352 --> 00:42:14,656
Well, we've defended the police police in Your

1110
00:42:14,656 --> 00:42:15,371
state. So...

1111
00:42:16,324 --> 00:42:17,619
Exactly. And so

1112
00:42:18,724 --> 00:42:20,001
Where do we go from here? We have

1113
00:42:20,001 --> 00:42:20,820
an America

1114
00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:22,474
who is

1115
00:42:23,033 --> 00:42:26,145
to quote, George Carlin, p a weak America.

1116
00:42:27,436 --> 00:42:29,669
We now know beyond the shadow of doubt,

1117
00:42:29,749 --> 00:42:31,503
although it's been obvious for quite some time,

1118
00:42:31,663 --> 00:42:33,997
but we now know on even more shocking

1119
00:42:34,056 --> 00:42:35,252
ways than we knew before,

1120
00:42:36,065 --> 00:42:37,583
that the president of the United States doesn't

1121
00:42:37,583 --> 00:42:38,462
know what day it is.

1122
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,499
Sure. He doesn't know what year it is.

1123
00:42:42,458 --> 00:42:43,976
Yeah. Mike, he just said he was gonna

1124
00:42:43,976 --> 00:42:45,335
be beat Trump in 20 20. I mean,

1125
00:42:45,494 --> 00:42:46,305
he's he's gone.

1126
00:42:47,418 --> 00:42:50,599
And listen, III voted for Joe. I admire

1127
00:42:50,678 --> 00:42:52,427
Joe Biden. I think he's been a good

1128
00:42:52,427 --> 00:42:53,755
public servant. I'm

1129
00:42:54,273 --> 00:42:56,426
furious about some of the things he's done

1130
00:42:56,426 --> 00:42:58,659
from a policy perspective. I don't agree with

1131
00:42:58,659 --> 00:42:59,377
what he's said

1132
00:43:00,414 --> 00:43:01,233
about everything

1133
00:43:01,690 --> 00:43:03,126
throughout his career, but on balance,

1134
00:43:04,336 --> 00:43:06,032
I would say he's been a reasonable

1135
00:43:06,886 --> 00:43:08,798
public servant to the American people.

1136
00:43:09,436 --> 00:43:10,472
He's gotta fucking go.

1137
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,590
And the most terrifying thing about what we've

1138
00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:15,204
learned now, we now know

1139
00:43:15,738 --> 00:43:17,988
that when a Republican president

1140
00:43:18,380 --> 00:43:21,097
needs to go. The Republicans will not enact

1141
00:43:21,097 --> 00:43:22,215
that 20 fifth amendment,

1142
00:43:22,855 --> 00:43:23,653
January sixth.

1143
00:43:24,932 --> 00:43:26,770
And we now know neither will the Democrats.

1144
00:43:27,744 --> 00:43:27,984
Yeah.

1145
00:43:29,184 --> 00:43:31,364
And so we have a situation where some

1146
00:43:31,505 --> 00:43:33,905
combination of jill and kamala are running the

1147
00:43:33,905 --> 00:43:34,144
country.

1148
00:43:34,784 --> 00:43:35,425
We don't know.

1149
00:43:37,195 --> 00:43:39,348
So now what what does what the fuck

1150
00:43:39,348 --> 00:43:42,219
does this mean for Ukraine, Roman? Yeah. Yeah.

1151
00:43:42,538 --> 00:43:43,495
III

1152
00:43:43,495 --> 00:43:44,633
will tell you that

1153
00:43:45,663 --> 00:43:47,120
it it it is a painful

1154
00:43:47,656 --> 00:43:49,250
for me as a Us citizen is a

1155
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:51,401
voting Us citizen. It's a just a... It's

1156
00:43:51,401 --> 00:43:54,281
such a painful choice that we came to

1157
00:43:54,281 --> 00:43:56,289
the to the time in history

1158
00:43:57,059 --> 00:44:00,869
where we are choosing the lesser evil, and

1159
00:44:00,869 --> 00:44:02,083
it's just been

1160
00:44:02,553 --> 00:44:05,819
a really, really difficult mentally for me to

1161
00:44:05,819 --> 00:44:08,528
grasp with this. And then put them Ukraine

1162
00:44:08,528 --> 00:44:10,041
in the context of all of this.

1163
00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:13,890
The 1 thing as I said, the good

1164
00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:16,210
thing that comes out of this that maybe

1165
00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:18,769
we will build a stronger Europe. Europe will

1166
00:44:18,769 --> 00:44:20,630
realize that they need to

1167
00:44:21,662 --> 00:44:21,981
you know,

1168
00:44:23,337 --> 00:44:25,092
really get their stuff together,

1169
00:44:25,809 --> 00:44:28,282
build strong military. But what the fuck going

1170
00:44:28,282 --> 00:44:29,877
on in your? What the fuck is going

1171
00:44:29,877 --> 00:44:32,289
on in France? What the fuck is going

1172
00:44:32,289 --> 00:44:33,329
on in the Uk?

1173
00:44:34,690 --> 00:44:36,710
No, really? Oh, it's it's called

1174
00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:39,903
a democracy. Right? So there is there is

1175
00:44:39,903 --> 00:44:42,297
that part we play this game. We play

1176
00:44:42,297 --> 00:44:42,776
this game.

1177
00:44:45,490 --> 00:44:47,166
It it's it's instead of a blessing in

1178
00:44:47,166 --> 00:44:49,568
the curse. Right? On 1 hand, you have

1179
00:44:50,283 --> 00:44:53,064
a process, a process of refinement, and you

1180
00:44:53,064 --> 00:44:54,813
get a lot of useful idiots in in

1181
00:44:54,813 --> 00:44:56,346
the process that will

1182
00:44:57,213 --> 00:44:59,762
you know, play play the hand pretty well.

1183
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:00,957
So...

1184
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:02,869
Yeah,

1185
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,916
And then how do you explain Roman? So

1186
00:45:05,916 --> 00:45:08,310
the another 1 that sort of is radically?

1187
00:45:08,869 --> 00:45:10,386
Me tough questions that I don't have? No

1188
00:45:10,785 --> 00:45:11,184
I know.

1189
00:45:11,902 --> 00:45:12,860
I do. Yeah.

1190
00:45:13,988 --> 00:45:16,288
Yeah. The other 1 that bog the mind.

1191
00:45:17,556 --> 00:45:18,056
So

1192
00:45:18,588 --> 00:45:19,088
Russia

1193
00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:20,887
invades and does all the horrible.

1194
00:45:21,538 --> 00:45:24,329
Crimes against humanity that they have done, raping

1195
00:45:24,329 --> 00:45:26,483
of women and all of it, horrors.

1196
00:45:28,237 --> 00:45:29,753
Ham hamas does the same thing.

1197
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,717
And now,

1198
00:45:33,993 --> 00:45:37,602
useful idiots in the western world think israel,

1199
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:42,469
should care for the people of gaza.

1200
00:45:43,909 --> 00:45:44,469
And yet,

1201
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:46,969
I've not seen 1

1202
00:45:47,269 --> 00:45:47,670
person.

1203
00:45:48,643 --> 00:45:49,916
On the Columbia campus,

1204
00:45:50,872 --> 00:45:51,690
hold a protest,

1205
00:45:52,782 --> 00:45:53,282
demanding

1206
00:45:53,817 --> 00:45:56,126
that putin starts sending aid to Ukraine.

1207
00:45:57,416 --> 00:45:59,567
What the actual fuck is going on On.

1208
00:45:59,886 --> 00:46:02,913
Right. Exactly. That's... I think bad. Beth for

1209
00:46:02,913 --> 00:46:03,152
me,

1210
00:46:04,598 --> 00:46:07,612
has been the ultimate hypocrisy of the academia.

1211
00:46:07,850 --> 00:46:08,509
I'm an

1212
00:46:09,437 --> 00:46:12,387
I'm an academic myself. I'm a professor tenure,

1213
00:46:12,545 --> 00:46:14,290
and 1 of the top universities in in

1214
00:46:14,290 --> 00:46:17,010
the Us myself. We had the same protesters

1215
00:46:17,541 --> 00:46:18,493
on our campus.

1216
00:46:19,303 --> 00:46:19,702
You know,

1217
00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:23,608
to to be fair, my campus, my my

1218
00:46:23,608 --> 00:46:26,319
pro provost proposed president have been very supportive

1219
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:27,356
if ukraine. My dean,

1220
00:46:28,006 --> 00:46:30,783
you know, we had a a Ukrainian flag

1221
00:46:31,418 --> 00:46:34,114
flying in our student union and all of

1222
00:46:34,114 --> 00:46:34,273
this.

1223
00:46:35,244 --> 00:46:37,184
But I have not seen mass protests

1224
00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:41,405
and the support of Ukraine, so the the

1225
00:46:41,405 --> 00:46:43,059
the the the what what

1226
00:46:43,498 --> 00:46:46,213
what has happened and standing against Russia. And

1227
00:46:46,213 --> 00:46:46,612
then

1228
00:46:47,650 --> 00:46:50,524
we have a genocide that has been committed

1229
00:46:50,524 --> 00:46:53,514
by Hamas on October seventh And then,

1230
00:46:53,893 --> 00:46:55,890
you know, it it it was a really

1231
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:57,648
interesting swing. Right? Because,

1232
00:46:58,367 --> 00:46:59,405
at the beginning,

1233
00:47:00,136 --> 00:47:03,152
everybody saw what Hamas is. Right? So everybody

1234
00:47:03,152 --> 00:47:05,215
was sort of with Israel and everything. And

1235
00:47:05,215 --> 00:47:05,715
then

1236
00:47:06,327 --> 00:47:07,065
when Israel

1237
00:47:07,612 --> 00:47:08,405
put it teeth,

1238
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,866
and but, you know, said, okay, We're we're

1239
00:47:10,866 --> 00:47:12,215
gonna... We're gonna do something.

1240
00:47:13,564 --> 00:47:14,620
The the

1241
00:47:14,929 --> 00:47:18,185
the retaliation came. And so the Tiktok health

1242
00:47:18,185 --> 00:47:20,488
and and and people were brain and they

1243
00:47:20,488 --> 00:47:22,553
all started, you know, these mass protests.

1244
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,863
And I... What I'm afraid is,

1245
00:47:28,693 --> 00:47:32,526
when we give enough weapons and enough power

1246
00:47:32,526 --> 00:47:33,879
and strength to Ukraine,

1247
00:47:34,515 --> 00:47:36,686
and Ukraine hits Russia hard

1248
00:47:37,061 --> 00:47:38,675
and hits Russian territory,

1249
00:47:39,369 --> 00:47:40,164
which they should.

1250
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:44,164
I mean, or we're gonna see the same

1251
00:47:44,164 --> 00:47:45,860
protest, defending Russian

1252
00:47:46,237 --> 00:47:46,737
Russians

1253
00:47:47,193 --> 00:47:47,990
on the campuses.

1254
00:47:50,078 --> 00:47:51,748
It's not not is that we're gonna... We

1255
00:47:51,748 --> 00:47:52,964
we're gonna see is

1256
00:47:53,498 --> 00:47:56,123
being sorry for the Russian people because they're

1257
00:47:56,123 --> 00:47:57,554
so being, you know,

1258
00:47:58,761 --> 00:48:00,981
attacked by the Ukrainian that season and all

1259
00:48:00,981 --> 00:48:02,884
that. Is that what gonna see? We could.

1260
00:48:04,786 --> 00:48:05,421
And I'll say,

1261
00:48:06,705 --> 00:48:08,453
the horrible thing that's in my mind that

1262
00:48:08,532 --> 00:48:09,565
I wish I didn't say.

1263
00:48:12,743 --> 00:48:14,625
They would for sure say that if the

1264
00:48:14,824 --> 00:48:16,184
Russians were brown or black.

1265
00:48:18,744 --> 00:48:21,465
Right What why why don't Americans give a

1266
00:48:21,465 --> 00:48:22,239
fuck about

1267
00:48:22,917 --> 00:48:25,227
That's a ukrainians. Why don't they care?

1268
00:48:26,023 --> 00:48:28,732
Because they're white? Hashtag no jews. No news.

1269
00:48:29,784 --> 00:48:31,622
How many Ukrainians have died in the last

1270
00:48:31,622 --> 00:48:33,300
2 and a half years roughly Roman?

1271
00:48:35,457 --> 00:48:36,815
I don't wanna talk about. Okay.

1272
00:48:38,186 --> 00:48:38,902
A shocking,

1273
00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:39,697
stunning,

1274
00:48:40,414 --> 00:48:40,914
horrifying,

1275
00:48:41,766 --> 00:48:42,266
un

1276
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,197
number.

1277
00:48:43,993 --> 00:48:47,030
Yeah. A sovereign nation who did nothing wrong.

1278
00:48:47,427 --> 00:48:49,757
And you could say Ukraine had its problems

1279
00:48:49,893 --> 00:48:52,119
and there's this Sure. Whatever. As we all

1280
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:52,778
do right.

1281
00:48:53,407 --> 00:48:54,759
That's got nothing to do with nothing.

1282
00:48:55,634 --> 00:48:55,873
Right?

1283
00:48:56,748 --> 00:48:58,680
Ukrainians and Ukrainian government

1284
00:48:59,214 --> 00:48:59,771
did nothing.

1285
00:49:00,581 --> 00:49:04,320
0, not a, nothing for this. Is a

1286
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:04,956
matter of fact,

1287
00:49:05,672 --> 00:49:06,491
the Ukrainians

1288
00:49:07,343 --> 00:49:08,559
deserve tremendous

1289
00:49:09,585 --> 00:49:11,333
applause, tremendous support.

1290
00:49:12,128 --> 00:49:14,829
I've spent my entire career over 35 years

1291
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:15,648
in the technology

1292
00:49:16,021 --> 00:49:16,260
industry.

1293
00:49:19,061 --> 00:49:19,380
Ukraine.

1294
00:49:20,496 --> 00:49:21,555
It is a hotbed

1295
00:49:22,171 --> 00:49:25,383
of amazing, technology talent, amazing

1296
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,617
engineering talent, Incredible

1297
00:49:28,564 --> 00:49:32,375
technology, incredible software capability and growing at the

1298
00:49:32,375 --> 00:49:32,534
time.

1299
00:49:33,804 --> 00:49:34,939
Entrepreneurship, technology

1300
00:49:35,709 --> 00:49:36,582
entrepreneurship in Ukraine.

1301
00:49:37,471 --> 00:49:37,947
Expanding,

1302
00:49:38,423 --> 00:49:41,068
growing. And so you have a incredibly productive

1303
00:49:41,123 --> 00:49:43,926
society with a s history, beautiful

1304
00:49:44,538 --> 00:49:46,934
architecture some of the most wonderful walking cities

1305
00:49:46,934 --> 00:49:47,649
in the world,

1306
00:49:48,523 --> 00:49:48,920
food,

1307
00:49:49,475 --> 00:49:49,872
culture,

1308
00:49:50,428 --> 00:49:50,928
music,

1309
00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:53,389
and and a and a and a thriving

1310
00:49:53,524 --> 00:49:53,921
economy.

1311
00:49:54,333 --> 00:49:56,742
That's participating in some of the most advanced

1312
00:49:58,470 --> 00:50:00,958
areas of of business and innovation and technology

1313
00:50:01,269 --> 00:50:03,339
the world was gonna pick pick in that

1314
00:50:03,339 --> 00:50:05,728
vehicle continue your thought, but this is exactly

1315
00:50:05,728 --> 00:50:07,581
right. I think this is the part of

1316
00:50:08,276 --> 00:50:11,098
Ukraine that maybe it's not being talked about

1317
00:50:11,153 --> 00:50:11,472
enough.

1318
00:50:12,027 --> 00:50:13,219
But, you know, we...

1319
00:50:14,172 --> 00:50:16,318
Even Elon musk, who is, you know,

1320
00:50:17,050 --> 00:50:18,590
I have a low hated

1321
00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,150
relationship with that guy. But, basically,

1322
00:50:21,769 --> 00:50:23,289
even him who is

1323
00:50:24,104 --> 00:50:26,021
and not been the biggest friend of Ukraine

1324
00:50:26,021 --> 00:50:27,939
for the past years. When he was asked

1325
00:50:27,939 --> 00:50:30,675
what's the best engine for the spacecraft?

1326
00:50:31,465 --> 00:50:33,527
Around the world. He said the number 1

1327
00:50:33,527 --> 00:50:35,509
is his Spacex, which is his company. And

1328
00:50:35,509 --> 00:50:37,095
the next 1 is Ukrainian engines.

1329
00:50:37,888 --> 00:50:38,681
You know, when

1330
00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:41,026
when we talk about the biggest

1331
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,664
It expansion... The top 5 companies of the

1332
00:50:44,823 --> 00:50:46,016
United States, Google,

1333
00:50:46,812 --> 00:50:47,847
Microsoft, the Apple,

1334
00:50:48,657 --> 00:50:50,192
they all have Ukrainian

1335
00:50:50,646 --> 00:50:50,885
footprint.

1336
00:50:51,521 --> 00:50:52,317
The founders,

1337
00:50:52,715 --> 00:50:55,752
they all have a Ukrainian roots. So, And

1338
00:50:55,831 --> 00:50:57,814
I don't wanna just brag on that saying,

1339
00:50:58,052 --> 00:51:00,589
you know, Ukraine is everywhere. Nope. It's not,

1340
00:51:00,748 --> 00:51:02,572
but the point is that there are some

1341
00:51:02,572 --> 00:51:03,072
brilliant

1342
00:51:03,619 --> 00:51:06,425
1 of the most educated countries in Europe

1343
00:51:06,721 --> 00:51:07,436
in Europe.

1344
00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:11,193
In terms of the universities for capital, we

1345
00:51:11,193 --> 00:51:13,192
have 2 and a half times more universities

1346
00:51:13,192 --> 00:51:14,630
per capita than Great Britain.

1347
00:51:15,269 --> 00:51:17,507
So basically, the point is that, you know,

1348
00:51:17,666 --> 00:51:19,365
it's a very well educated

1349
00:51:19,756 --> 00:51:21,207
very talented people

1350
00:51:21,737 --> 00:51:23,266
that want to,

1351
00:51:24,114 --> 00:51:26,436
you know, they want to live their life

1352
00:51:27,062 --> 00:51:30,902
separately from Soviet Union from Russia from communism

1353
00:51:31,436 --> 00:51:31,754
and

1354
00:51:32,708 --> 00:51:35,094
you know, and In in that sense, I

1355
00:51:35,094 --> 00:51:35,730
mean you tell me?

1356
00:51:37,018 --> 00:51:39,170
I've done business with Ukrainians for years.

1357
00:51:40,046 --> 00:51:41,561
I don't find them to be any different

1358
00:51:41,561 --> 00:51:43,393
from Americans in that regard. What what do

1359
00:51:43,393 --> 00:51:43,792
they want?

1360
00:51:44,525 --> 00:51:46,445
They want a great society. They want peace.

1361
00:51:46,684 --> 00:51:48,465
They want beautiful art, beautiful

1362
00:51:48,844 --> 00:51:50,605
architecture. They want their families to be successful.

1363
00:51:50,844 --> 00:51:53,485
They want entrepreneurship. They want innovation. They want

1364
00:51:53,485 --> 00:51:53,885
opportunity.

1365
00:51:54,299 --> 00:51:56,452
They want a strong growing economy.

1366
00:51:57,011 --> 00:51:58,287
And and this is the other thing I

1367
00:51:58,287 --> 00:51:59,584
don't understand about

1368
00:52:00,201 --> 00:52:02,434
what's happening in the world right now.

1369
00:52:04,364 --> 00:52:06,762
If you just look at the country, the

1370
00:52:06,762 --> 00:52:09,478
society that Russia built post world War 2.

1371
00:52:10,517 --> 00:52:11,796
And then you look at the country in

1372
00:52:11,796 --> 00:52:12,515
the society,

1373
00:52:13,407 --> 00:52:16,987
that Ukraine has built. That Checklist Slovakia has

1374
00:52:16,987 --> 00:52:19,534
built that many other former parts of the

1375
00:52:19,534 --> 00:52:19,613
you...

1376
00:52:21,046 --> 00:52:23,371
Ussr have built. What have they done? They've

1377
00:52:23,371 --> 00:52:24,828
gone on to build democracies

1378
00:52:25,445 --> 00:52:26,800
where people have equal rights,

1379
00:52:28,396 --> 00:52:30,708
where people have opportunity, education, all these things.

1380
00:52:30,948 --> 00:52:32,396
Right? And what did Russia should do.

1381
00:52:33,746 --> 00:52:34,961
Russia is still

1382
00:52:35,334 --> 00:52:38,693
a natural resource based command and control society

1383
00:52:39,225 --> 00:52:39,725
where

1384
00:52:40,273 --> 00:52:42,101
people have very little opportunity.

1385
00:52:42,657 --> 00:52:43,134
Very you know,

1386
00:52:44,008 --> 00:52:46,153
I I love the quote by John Mckenna

1387
00:52:46,153 --> 00:52:48,140
1 point of time. He said that Russia

1388
00:52:48,140 --> 00:52:48,640
is

1389
00:52:49,505 --> 00:52:51,014
is a gas pam, pump,

1390
00:52:51,966 --> 00:52:53,792
run by mafia. Right? So that's that's all

1391
00:52:53,792 --> 00:52:56,649
it. Yeah. My bosses with a gas pipe.

1392
00:52:56,887 --> 00:52:58,810
That's exactly right. And Putin,

1393
00:52:59,606 --> 00:53:01,677
not only did he continue to do horrible

1394
00:53:01,677 --> 00:53:03,906
things to his people. And now his neighbors,

1395
00:53:04,224 --> 00:53:06,708
he did nothing to modernize the economy. That

1396
00:53:06,708 --> 00:53:08,700
all the natural resources in the world. We

1397
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:10,055
could good for thrust us. Right? I mean,

1398
00:53:10,214 --> 00:53:12,525
this is the thing. Imagine Russia being is

1399
00:53:12,525 --> 00:53:14,596
a strong country in doing what they're doing

1400
00:53:14,596 --> 00:53:16,444
right now. That would be actually horrific your

1401
00:53:16,444 --> 00:53:18,597
thing as well. So in in a way,

1402
00:53:18,916 --> 00:53:20,670
it's sort of worked for us, but you're

1403
00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:22,423
absolutely the right. They did nothing. They didn't

1404
00:53:22,423 --> 00:53:24,815
mean thing that Russia has invented in the

1405
00:53:24,815 --> 00:53:28,164
past the couple centuries. Nothing. Nothing. And then

1406
00:53:28,164 --> 00:53:30,387
you look at Hamas. You look at radical

1407
00:53:30,387 --> 00:53:30,784
ji.

1408
00:53:31,260 --> 00:53:33,923
You look at the. Well, What what what

1409
00:53:33,983 --> 00:53:36,619
legendary things have Palestinians done? And and by

1410
00:53:36,619 --> 00:53:38,696
the way, I don't have any problem with

1411
00:53:38,776 --> 00:53:41,030
Palestinian people and we know there are great

1412
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:42,890
Russian people. Yeah And they're

1413
00:53:43,590 --> 00:53:44,809
millions and millions

1414
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:46,650
of legendary

1415
00:53:47,269 --> 00:53:47,750
muslims.

1416
00:53:48,564 --> 00:53:49,999
Right? These are the regimes.

1417
00:53:50,797 --> 00:53:52,710
Yeah. And the people who support and enable

1418
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:55,421
and empower these fucking regimes. And it all

1419
00:53:55,421 --> 00:53:57,015
goes back to where we start, doesn't it.

1420
00:53:57,748 --> 00:53:57,987
Yeah.

1421
00:53:58,624 --> 00:54:00,139
If you don't stand up to the bully,

1422
00:54:01,254 --> 00:54:02,790
all of a sudden, sixth century

1423
00:54:03,804 --> 00:54:04,304
barb

1424
00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:07,087
Cultures emerge?

1425
00:54:08,202 --> 00:54:08,521
Exactly.

1426
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:10,434
So how does this Sand Roman?

1427
00:54:11,709 --> 00:54:13,872
What happens? So way this this end is

1428
00:54:13,872 --> 00:54:15,167
when once we

1429
00:54:16,097 --> 00:54:18,400
realize the truth that you have spoken and

1430
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,045
started this whole podcast forecast pro, that

1431
00:54:21,752 --> 00:54:22,809
the only way

1432
00:54:23,422 --> 00:54:27,260
to real peace, sustained peace, is strength

1433
00:54:27,794 --> 00:54:30,497
is when we get our act together,

1434
00:54:31,228 --> 00:54:31,946
when we...

1435
00:54:32,744 --> 00:54:34,498
Now there is a balance. Right? So we

1436
00:54:34,498 --> 00:54:36,093
need to have a piece and we need

1437
00:54:36,093 --> 00:54:37,847
to have a strength in terms of our

1438
00:54:37,847 --> 00:54:39,282
military and we have a have a strong

1439
00:54:39,282 --> 00:54:39,761
democracy.

1440
00:54:40,573 --> 00:54:42,567
A strong civic society. There has to be

1441
00:54:42,567 --> 00:54:44,561
a balance because when you have a strong

1442
00:54:44,561 --> 00:54:45,141
military or,

1443
00:54:45,757 --> 00:54:47,512
you need to have it in check. Right?

1444
00:54:47,672 --> 00:54:49,028
I mean, you don't want for it to

1445
00:54:49,028 --> 00:54:51,617
end up in a pants of 1 idiotic

1446
00:54:52,395 --> 00:54:54,311
dictator. So there has to be a very

1447
00:54:54,311 --> 00:54:55,588
strong civic society,

1448
00:54:56,226 --> 00:54:58,621
very strong. Like us, right? People who are

1449
00:54:58,621 --> 00:55:01,427
activists who speaking out freedom of speech, all

1450
00:55:01,427 --> 00:55:02,144
of that stuff.

1451
00:55:02,861 --> 00:55:04,875
And then you have to have a strong

1452
00:55:05,172 --> 00:55:06,685
military. You have to have a strong

1453
00:55:07,084 --> 00:55:08,757
police. You have to have a strong

1454
00:55:09,965 --> 00:55:10,363
you know,

1455
00:55:10,998 --> 00:55:13,939
people as well who are willing to interact

1456
00:55:13,939 --> 00:55:16,322
and defend their democracy their freedoms.

1457
00:55:16,974 --> 00:55:19,046
And I think that is

1458
00:55:20,321 --> 00:55:23,908
it has to be a generational change. As

1459
00:55:23,908 --> 00:55:24,545
you said,

1460
00:55:25,196 --> 00:55:27,177
the good times give

1461
00:55:27,731 --> 00:55:30,663
rise to the weak people. And so we

1462
00:55:30,663 --> 00:55:31,797
need to now

1463
00:55:33,224 --> 00:55:35,144
understand that these are non good times, and

1464
00:55:35,144 --> 00:55:36,984
we need to raise up to the occasion,

1465
00:55:37,385 --> 00:55:40,198
and then redefine the way that we view

1466
00:55:40,198 --> 00:55:42,909
even our daily life, our world view and

1467
00:55:42,909 --> 00:55:44,824
say, well, we need to be different. So

1468
00:55:44,903 --> 00:55:45,780
I think that the,

1469
00:55:46,977 --> 00:55:49,782
that it will take a generation for to

1470
00:55:49,782 --> 00:55:51,771
truly to fix this. You know, it's not

1471
00:55:51,771 --> 00:55:53,067
gonna happen spontaneously,

1472
00:55:53,521 --> 00:55:54,498
but I think

1473
00:55:54,873 --> 00:55:58,074
what Russia Hamas and So on started

1474
00:55:58,472 --> 00:56:00,545
is to put us on this path of

1475
00:56:00,545 --> 00:56:03,177
recovery, you know, And and I'll tell you

1476
00:56:03,177 --> 00:56:05,741
this that 1 of the best ray that

1477
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:08,285
United States has had was after the World

1478
00:56:08,285 --> 00:56:08,682
war 2.

1479
00:56:09,557 --> 00:56:11,624
That... That's the generation that has

1480
00:56:12,340 --> 00:56:12,840
really

1481
00:56:13,214 --> 00:56:14,271
made America

1482
00:56:15,057 --> 00:56:18,001
what it is today. And we are, you

1483
00:56:18,001 --> 00:56:19,990
can call us the generation of proceeds or

1484
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:21,604
whatever, you know, that basically,

1485
00:56:22,233 --> 00:56:24,775
need to get out act together, get it

1486
00:56:24,775 --> 00:56:27,579
straight on our civic level and on an

1487
00:56:27,635 --> 00:56:28,747
international level as a country.

1488
00:56:32,351 --> 00:56:32,670
Professor.

1489
00:56:33,468 --> 00:56:35,303
Is there anything else you'd like to talk

1490
00:56:35,303 --> 00:56:35,463
about?

1491
00:56:36,913 --> 00:56:38,985
I think we covered the really good topic.

1492
00:56:39,304 --> 00:56:40,021
We can talk

1493
00:56:40,659 --> 00:56:41,159
maybe

1494
00:56:41,536 --> 00:56:43,847
some other time on many things, you know,

1495
00:56:44,086 --> 00:56:47,046
on geopolitical on a lot of other topics

1496
00:56:47,046 --> 00:56:49,693
on economics because there's a lot of fascinating

1497
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:51,635
topics. But I really feel that

1498
00:56:52,547 --> 00:56:54,056
today, we had a really 1 of the

1499
00:56:54,056 --> 00:56:54,556
best

1500
00:56:55,405 --> 00:56:57,151
discussions that I had in the while, and

1501
00:56:57,231 --> 00:56:59,612
I've spoken to many people. So Christopher, the

1502
00:56:59,612 --> 00:57:02,094
great job And I think it's a very

1503
00:57:02,094 --> 00:57:04,248
good narrative that we covered. So it would

1504
00:57:04,248 --> 00:57:05,523
be a good way to wrap it up.

1505
00:57:05,922 --> 00:57:08,633
Okay. By thanking you and thanking American people

1506
00:57:08,633 --> 00:57:09,612
and everybody

1507
00:57:09,924 --> 00:57:12,397
who is supporting Ukraine, who is standing against

1508
00:57:12,397 --> 00:57:14,173
evil who is standing against

1509
00:57:15,029 --> 00:57:17,204
dictatorship and standing for freedom democracy

1510
00:57:18,538 --> 00:57:19,256
that is

1511
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:22,067
that is exactly what Ukraine are fighting for.

1512
00:57:22,306 --> 00:57:25,502
Just for life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

1513
00:57:26,701 --> 00:57:27,201
Something

1514
00:57:27,755 --> 00:57:30,155
everybody in the United States should well understand.

1515
00:57:31,594 --> 00:57:32,714
If people wanna help.

1516
00:57:33,835 --> 00:57:34,074
So,

1517
00:57:34,954 --> 00:57:36,795
I absolutely wanna help your hospital.

1518
00:57:38,003 --> 00:57:40,489
If people wanna help in other ways financially

1519
00:57:40,862 --> 00:57:41,656
and other ways.

1520
00:57:43,801 --> 00:57:44,754
What should people do?

1521
00:57:47,074 --> 00:57:50,026
So I will usually split the help in

1522
00:57:50,026 --> 00:57:50,766
3 categories.

1523
00:57:51,144 --> 00:57:52,660
The first is the voice.

1524
00:57:53,697 --> 00:57:54,655
Raise their awareness.

1525
00:57:55,388 --> 00:57:56,526
Spread the

1526
00:57:56,902 --> 00:57:58,518
information, find the propaganda,

1527
00:57:59,613 --> 00:58:01,686
even this interview, The best thing they can

1528
00:58:01,686 --> 00:58:03,121
do is to share this with people.

1529
00:58:03,772 --> 00:58:04,431
Let this

1530
00:58:05,122 --> 00:58:07,504
conversation be heard with as many people as

1531
00:58:07,504 --> 00:58:08,004
possible

1532
00:58:08,695 --> 00:58:08,933
because,

1533
00:58:10,125 --> 00:58:11,339
it does have,

1534
00:58:11,871 --> 00:58:14,834
an impact. It may change a view of

1535
00:58:14,834 --> 00:58:15,712
10:20

1536
00:58:15,712 --> 00:58:18,585
people, but that will have an avalanche effect.

1537
00:58:18,824 --> 00:58:21,472
So that's the first thing. The first thing

1538
00:58:21,472 --> 00:58:23,867
is we're fighting the information war, and we

1539
00:58:23,867 --> 00:58:24,266
need to,

1540
00:58:24,985 --> 00:58:26,582
the only way to do that is,

1541
00:58:27,221 --> 00:58:29,216
but by giving the voice to people like

1542
00:58:29,296 --> 00:58:29,775
You and me.

1543
00:58:30,585 --> 00:58:33,280
A second thing is in terms of our,

1544
00:58:35,736 --> 00:58:36,474
kind of

1545
00:58:37,814 --> 00:58:38,532
I would say, yeah,

1546
00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:41,985
engagement at the level of voting

1547
00:58:42,364 --> 00:58:44,141
at the level of actually

1548
00:58:44,598 --> 00:58:46,115
going and doing something.

1549
00:58:47,005 --> 00:58:49,146
Not just being bystanders standards and saying,

1550
00:58:50,256 --> 00:58:52,319
well, we have a screwed up a political

1551
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,302
system and then blaming everybody.

1552
00:58:54,794 --> 00:58:57,368
And, well, we are part of the problem

1553
00:58:57,426 --> 00:58:59,122
because we have not done our

1554
00:58:59,739 --> 00:59:02,052
due diligence. We have not researched what kind

1555
00:59:02,052 --> 00:59:04,365
of people we elect just the other day,

1556
00:59:05,019 --> 00:59:07,260
you know, we have a Ukrainian food festival,

1557
00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:08,300
and we had some

1558
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:11,500
people who are running for the local office

1559
00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:14,623
judges come over and just engaging with them,

1560
00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:17,955
learning what their agenda is and being active,

1561
00:59:18,114 --> 00:59:18,510
you know,

1562
00:59:19,383 --> 00:59:23,322
that's in in incredibly important. You know, I

1563
00:59:24,178 --> 00:59:26,251
I know exactly why I'm gonna be voting

1564
00:59:26,251 --> 00:59:29,122
now because I have... I know exactly what

1565
00:59:29,122 --> 00:59:31,453
kind of issues are important for me as

1566
00:59:31,453 --> 00:59:32,092
a citizen,

1567
00:59:32,492 --> 00:59:34,969
and I have done my due diligence learning

1568
00:59:34,969 --> 00:59:36,726
who are the people that I think bass

1569
00:59:36,726 --> 00:59:39,380
will represent those interests. So I think that's

1570
00:59:39,380 --> 00:59:41,059
the second thing. And

1571
00:59:42,099 --> 00:59:43,940
the third 1 is, of course, you can

1572
00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:44,820
help financially.

1573
00:59:45,460 --> 00:59:47,635
Financially, there's a lot of need there in

1574
00:59:47,635 --> 00:59:49,554
the right humanitarian need. There's,

1575
00:59:51,074 --> 00:59:53,474
support of military. There's not much... We can

1576
00:59:53,474 --> 00:59:55,329
do sometimes in terms of the military support.

1577
00:59:55,488 --> 00:59:58,200
Right, We cannot provide patriot missiles or, you

1578
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,353
know, jab or stuff like that. But what

1579
01:00:00,353 --> 01:00:02,267
we can do, we can support the local

1580
01:00:02,586 --> 01:00:04,875
Ngos, I am ahead of

1581
01:00:05,552 --> 01:00:07,387
Ukrainian and American house. It's an then Joe,

1582
01:00:07,546 --> 01:00:09,780
we provided a lot of help to ukraine

1583
01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:12,252
throughout the years. I'm also... I've started a

1584
01:00:12,252 --> 01:00:13,151
personal fundraising

1585
01:00:13,688 --> 01:00:15,935
because I didn't wanna have a conflict of

1586
01:00:15,935 --> 01:00:18,268
interest with the organization that I'm actually

1587
01:00:18,804 --> 01:00:21,193
sharing as a as a chairman. So I

1588
01:00:21,353 --> 01:00:22,204
I wanted to

1589
01:00:22,643 --> 01:00:25,514
raise funds to rebuild my Alma mater.

1590
01:00:26,152 --> 01:00:29,262
So it's a started go fund page just

1591
01:00:29,262 --> 01:00:30,639
to be completely transparent

1592
01:00:31,017 --> 01:00:31,495
and,

1593
01:00:32,622 --> 01:00:34,528
at the Paypal, and all of that is

1594
01:00:34,528 --> 01:00:36,989
visible, and I will just literally write a

1595
01:00:36,989 --> 01:00:38,759
check to the university because

1596
01:00:40,023 --> 01:00:42,495
donating that to Ukraine, you need to go

1597
01:00:42,495 --> 01:00:45,229
through the Ukrainian bank, Mono bank or Private

1598
01:00:45,287 --> 01:00:48,159
p provide bank, and it's kim... It cannot

1599
01:00:48,159 --> 01:00:50,088
be done by the Us citizens. So, basically,

1600
01:00:50,247 --> 01:00:52,241
as a result, I just said, hey. Let's

1601
01:00:52,241 --> 01:00:54,155
collect money here, and that will just go

1602
01:00:54,155 --> 01:00:56,309
to Ukraine. And by the way, when I...

1603
01:00:56,469 --> 01:00:58,223
When I give money or when we give

1604
01:00:58,223 --> 01:01:01,740
the donations and stuff. We are and cr

1605
01:01:01,740 --> 01:01:05,658
incredibly... I'm incredibly sc. So I always check

1606
01:01:05,952 --> 01:01:08,019
where this goes, what is bad with this

1607
01:01:08,019 --> 01:01:08,519
money

1608
01:01:09,068 --> 01:01:12,099
where, you know, I get the receipts basically.

1609
01:01:12,338 --> 01:01:13,455
Because, I know that,

1610
01:01:14,572 --> 01:01:16,646
especially during the time of before, money can

1611
01:01:16,646 --> 01:01:18,262
go the wrong way. And

1612
01:01:18,893 --> 01:01:20,875
but that should not stop us. Right? That

1613
01:01:20,875 --> 01:01:22,778
course stopping from doing the right thing. So...

1614
01:01:23,175 --> 01:01:25,078
And I'll give you those links. Yeah. If

1615
01:01:25,078 --> 01:01:26,426
you give me all those links,

1616
01:01:27,078 --> 01:01:28,755
Roman, we will put all of that in

1617
01:01:28,755 --> 01:01:31,070
the show notes. So whether it's giving to

1618
01:01:31,070 --> 01:01:31,948
your Alma mater,

1619
01:01:32,507 --> 01:01:34,263
trying to help if there's ways financially to

1620
01:01:34,263 --> 01:01:36,114
help with a hospital that was just so

1621
01:01:36,114 --> 01:01:37,094
brutally hit

1622
01:01:37,554 --> 01:01:38,614
and any other

1623
01:01:38,994 --> 01:01:40,275
any other places,

1624
01:01:41,074 --> 01:01:42,454
organizations that you think

1625
01:01:44,275 --> 01:01:46,682
are gonna make a difference send those, they'll

1626
01:01:46,682 --> 01:01:48,034
all be in the show notes for this

1627
01:01:48,034 --> 01:01:50,499
episode. Thank you so much. Yeah. God bless,

1628
01:01:50,658 --> 01:01:52,407
Roman, and God bless the people of Ukraine.

1629
01:01:53,282 --> 01:01:54,077
Thank you so much.

1630
01:01:55,445 --> 01:01:58,005
That was the legendary Roman Sierra mehta. To

1631
01:01:58,005 --> 01:01:59,925
learn more about Roman and for all the

1632
01:01:59,925 --> 01:02:02,005
links we discussed in today's episode, please see

1633
01:02:02,005 --> 01:02:04,059
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1634
01:02:04,259 --> 01:02:05,697
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1635
01:02:06,336 --> 01:02:09,452
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