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Smart, today, we welcome Alyssa up to the

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podcast. Alyssa is a learning specialist at mia

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therapist, and she is joining us today to

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talk about her journey leaving the classroom environment.

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She shares why she struggled leaving the classroom

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and what she has learned since leaving the

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classroom and joining my therapist.

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She also shares what she would tell others

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who are thinking about making this transition. If

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you are interested in making this transition yourself

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both cap educational therapy group and my ed

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therapist are hiring. Feel free to reach out

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to us at rachel Staff at Learn podcast

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dot com to get more

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information about how to apply. Let's dig in.

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You want to learn faster

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what's sometimes working harder

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is just that the answer you have to

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learn

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smarter,

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the educational therapy podcast.

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Hi, Smart. Welcome to episode 320 of Learn

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Smarter. The educational therapy podcast. I'm Stephanie Pitt.

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And I reach rachel kat And today, I

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am thrilled to introduce the audience to Alyssa

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Op who is a learning specialist at my

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practice my ed therapist, and I'm excited to

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have this conversation. So welcome, Melissa. Thank you

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so much. I'm excited to be here. Yeah.

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So why don't you start off by telling

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us a little bit about who you are

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and what you do and who you do

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for? Sure. So long long ago in the

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I started teaching for a teeny tiny school

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district here in the south Bay and just

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fell in love with the job.

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My mom was a teacher in the same

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district and I kind of just grew up

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with teaching and early literacy

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just in my blood and all around me.

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I would go with her every summer to

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help her set up her classroom and I

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couldn't wait to have a classroom of my

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own. So I started teaching in the late

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Kindergarten first grade third grade,

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did that for about 25 years, which literally

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flew by? I know it's cliche to say,

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but it's wild when you look back and

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you're like, oh my gosh, it really has

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been that long.

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I loved it.

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But about a year ago, I needed a

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change. I was ready for a change, just

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due to some health reasons. I needed some

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more flexibility in my schedule.

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I need to spend more time with my

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family. You know, we all go through different

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seasons of life and flexibility I was just

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at the point where

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a traditional

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kind of not 9 to 5, but as

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we all know, teachers work of many more

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hours than that. Yeah. Here's traditional teaching schedule.

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It just wasn't quite possible for me anymore.

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broken hearted about it. I still wanted to

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teach. It's the only job I've ever wanted

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to do, and I feel like it's not

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just a job. It's just who I am.

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Right? It's part of my identity, and I

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just was at a loss. I knew I

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needed to leave the classroom,

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but still wanted to make an impact and

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1 of my former students was

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a client at my therapist and her mom

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Oh my gosh. Alyssa, this would be perfect

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for you.

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You should check it out. And that's kind

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of how I wound up meeting Stephanie and

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everything else kind of fell into place. It

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was such a happy accident. Mh. But it's

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really where I think I was meant to

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end up, and I have enjoyed my time

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at my ad therapist so so much. I've

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learned so much, which,

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you know, when you've been doing a job

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for a long time. You think you know

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your stuff, but it's pretty cool to pivot

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into a similar field and then be able

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to learn so many new skills that you

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can apply in a little bit of a

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different learning setting. So it's kind of how

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I ended up where I am now.

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So I love that. It's been almost a

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Since you've been on the team. Isn't that

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crazy?

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Yeah. It's flown by. You are 1 of

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the reading guru on the team.

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And you and I have had many conversations

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about how much it's in your blood and

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how much you love it. It's not in

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mind. To do breeding? Yeah. Yeah. Both of

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us feel that way, but go 1.

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No part of me wants to do it.

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I did it, but I don't wanna do

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It's not where my heart is. And so

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we all have our specialties. Right?

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you were

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well known in your district. And well known

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in a couple of circles

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being the go to Kindergarten teacher. You've won

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some awards

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fit demand kindergarten teacher.

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Once some awards, you've done some stuff. So

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I want us just to say, okay.

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reasons that were very

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external on why

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you know, health family,

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things like that. Yep. You and I I've

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talked about this. It wasn't something that you

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ever imagined you would do. It was just

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sort of Oh, no. Course. Upon you in

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a way that you weren't expecting, which is

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what happens. Right? Life throws things that you

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sometimes, and I'm trying to learn that

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boy, that's hard.

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So I wanted to talk about when I

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originally said like, I would love to have

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you come on. I wanted to really talk

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transition of working

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with clients in an educational therapy setting of

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the 1 on 1, the difference.

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teachers out there that are wondering, Okay. How

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is it different? And also, it's very scary.

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we've had other people in the past who

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are looking to make a transition out

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because they had, like, maxed out on being

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in the classroom. Frankly, like, they were burnt

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out on it. That wasn't the case here.

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This was still a passion for you. This

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was something that you loved. Right. So I'm

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excited to hear sort of your thoughts on

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all of this. Well, yeah, definitely. So when

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I started at my art therapist, I was

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nervous.

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how much experience you have. A new environment.

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I just wasn't

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exactly sure

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what to expect, but honestly,

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it just feels like you're doing

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your job with 1 student at a time.

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and putting out a hundred fire

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in the middle of a lesson. I know

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I told stuff on so many

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occasions.

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at how much

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shocked. I still am shocked every

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right when you've been in the classroom,

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especially in the elementary grades,

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for a long time, you're used to never

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saying

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something 1 time. You are used to being

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interrupted

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constantly,

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that's just the nature of the beast. Right?

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Mh. Someone always has an injury, like, A911

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injury. Right. Someone's running away, like, bathroom

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accidents. Oh, I will not even start on

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the bat this bathroom stories in Kindergarten

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would going to the nurse.

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come back? Right. Right. Right. You can't send

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anyone alone anywhere. They all have to travel

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and, like, over the top, but all of

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that to say, you're just

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never in a place where you can get

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through a less sin uninterrupted. And that's okay.

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social and community benefits of the classroom

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atmosphere an environment that are such an important

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part of the process for kids.

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you know, sometimes I would get frustrated,

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all that I wanted to get to,

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when pulling small groups.

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especially for reading instruction and writing instruction,

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Pho instruction when I could for math as

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well because you can really

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differentiate

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your instruction, you can remediate. You can enrich

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in a flexible way that allows you to

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really meet their needs in that moment.

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frame rate. I so that's where it would

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get a little bit tricky and it's totally

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fine. Kids need you. That's why you're there,

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it all well. Yeah. Yeah. You try your

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best, and they learn, and everyone has a

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great year, but

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I would tend to get frustrated

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that I didn't feel like I was as

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productive as I wanted to be

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that I've reached as many students in meaningful

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ways as often as I wanted to.

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impressed with how much I can accomplish

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1 on 1 with a student during that

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50 minute session time. What I'm hearing you

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say, Alyssa is that you're able to

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meet your goals with each learner

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more efficiently.

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each client with

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your 100 percent un

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attention. It's

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magic. That's where the magic happens. You see

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those

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moments where it all comes together for them

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there aren't the distractions

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that, you know, a classroom setting is naturally

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these sessions with students 1 on web. You

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about in the past the whole thing about

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you feeling like you weren't gonna be able

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to make an impact,

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and that's what you truly wanted. And now

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that impact

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looks a little different,

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but it's definitely an impact. I mean, because

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you and I have talked about some of

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your clients

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and

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where they have grown

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and

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parents that are calling and, you know, struggling

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with readers

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they're really behind

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oftentimes, like a couple of grades behind where

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they should be. And you've shared with me

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some of the winds of some of these

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kids that have

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almost caught up to grade level,

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you know, within the year. Yeah. I've just

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been so

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pleasantly surprised. I just didn't really know what

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to expect.

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Like I said, which is what happens. Right?

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When you try something new, and that can

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make you feel a little bit nervous. It

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can be a little bit overwhelming, but it

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was a leap of faith, but it was

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a leave I'm so glad I took. I've

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seen me students working so hard,

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gaining

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not only

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academic skills, but

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confident

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mh. Learning how to manage

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their own learning environments

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and

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using

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coping strategies and techniques

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that worked best for how their brains learn.

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And that 1 on 1,

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instruction

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combined with working on executive functioning skills,

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combined with being able to just differentiate and

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individualized in the moment

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with such freedom.

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Has been such a joy.

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Because Steven in a small group or even

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if you're pulling a student in in a

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classroom. Right?

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1 on 1,

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that's wonderful,

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but you don't get to do it for

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50

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uninterrupted minutes. Ever. Like, let's eat at all,

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you know? While jumping on a tram.

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Well, while jumping on a tram, while having

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a snack if we need a snack. Yeah.

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They're are so many

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accommodations,

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modifications,

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fun environmental,

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kind of changes,

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are options that make this kind of environment

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and these learning sessions,

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really

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Impactful. Tailored.

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Yeah. Impactful and easily tailored

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to what each student needs at that time

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which, you know, changes as you get to

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know them, Oh, that was another thing.

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I wanted to talk about too. I wasn't

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sure

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kind of going

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into this... Sort of new path in life.

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I wasn't sure how building a rapport was

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going to go in a 1 on 1

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situation. When you were teaching in a classroom,

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right, you're building community, you're a family

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and they are. They're your kids for that

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year.

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So it's just a little bit different. It's

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a little bit

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more nuanced or differently nuanced, but

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I've been so happy

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and so pleasantly surprised just to see how

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quickly

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you form real and deep and meaningful connect

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chin. Mh. With these teeny tiny little humans.

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And I know that both practices

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see clients of all ages, but I've mostly

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worked with younger kids.

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Because I'm not cool enough.

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Very intimidating those high schoolers,

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but the little dudes as I call them.

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The little dudes,

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love you. Oh, well, that's sweet. They do.

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We probably share the same maturity level. Maybe

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And, Alyssa, are you seeing kids virtually as

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well? I see some kids on Zoom, and

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I see some kids in the office. Yeah.

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So both. I know that's oftentimes the fear

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both clinician and parent.

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Amount that rapport. You're around finding for Stefan

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and I we've have always found. The rapport

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with

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the letters that were seeing virtually to be

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meaningful. You're fighting that as well. Yes, I

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felt pretty confident. Funnily enough, I think I

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felt more confident

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about my Zoom kiddo than my in person

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kiddo because,

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you know, way back when when Covid happened,

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like, we came home on that Friday, the

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thirteenth and boom. Yeah. On Monday, we were

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a hundred percent all in with online Kindergarten,

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which is a whole other. Yeah. Podcast topic.

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But you know, if we're able to

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maintain that

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interaction and focus and engagement

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with 25

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5 year olds,

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via Zoom of during Covid. Our team really

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worked well together, and we learned a lot

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of skills that translate to any age of

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learner,

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also just tools, tricks, fun games,

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different techniques that you

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find helpful on Zoom, but maybe you wouldn't

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necessarily use in person and vice versa. Right?

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Right. It depends on the setting. So I

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felt confident about my Zoom clients and being

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able to connect with them which sounds like

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so funny. It sounds like it would be

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the opposite, but I I think because I

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was used to

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well almost performing in a way. Right? Like,

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when you're teaching. Right. It is. You're kind

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of performing because everything has to be over

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the top and bigger than life to keep

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their attention and engagement.

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Going,

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and it's been really refreshing

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to be able to, like, dial it back

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a little bit I'm still working on just

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lowering

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my volume level. Mh.

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I will never forget long long ago when

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I taught first grade

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We got those new sound systems installed, and

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everyone had, like, the little microphone

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and you didn't have to project your voice

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in Yada yada around the classroom.

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And my partner teacher who his teaching ninth

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store came over and she's like, girl, maybe

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you don't need the microphone.

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So sorry, which so I've just always been

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a loud

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talker,

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which is great for recess duty. Right? Yeah.

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But so when you're working 1 on 1,

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not necessary and a little over bearing. So

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I'm still learning that I can just use

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my indoor voice. All the time, and it's

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been such a nice change.

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That's so funny.

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So now that we've talked about your sort

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of journey.

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I wanna talk a little bit about who

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you think or why you think this leap,

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you had to take. That was a little

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bit forced on you.

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Is something that somebody could do. I know

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it's scary

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looking at a year ago, you know, we're

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recording this in June of 20 24. So

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June of 20 23,

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Alyssa,

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What would you say? What would you tell

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yourself? I would say like, girl don't

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break out about this. You've got it. You

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are fine. I just wasn't... Sure that my

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skills would translate, and they absolutely

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do.

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It was just new to me. That's all.

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And when things are new, they can be

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scary sometime. It doesn't matter

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how confident you are at a job you've

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done for 20 ba gazillion years. Right? When

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you're pivoting times and doing something within the

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the same realm, but not exactly the same

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position. You know, you need to learn some

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new skills for sure

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there's gonna be growth and opportunities to learn,

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but

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it's so absolutely worth it. I would say

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to all of those teachers out there who

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for whatever reason. Right? And the reason doesn't

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matter for whatever reason,

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who are in need of a change and

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are looking to maybe leave the classroom, but

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still

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just have that passion for

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education are that love for students

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who really wanna make that 1 on 1

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connection and

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make a difference in the

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everyday

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lives of these kids in their

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school journeys.

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Absolutely

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reach out and give it a try. It

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has been so rewarding for me. I've met

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the most talented

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learning specialists,

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at therapists,

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counselors,

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so

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many people that I, you know, never would

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have thought I would have gotten to me

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and being able to spend that time 1

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on 1 with kiddo in such a meaningful

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way is just beyond rewarding. So is teaching,

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but

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when you are at the point or 4

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or whatever reason, it's not for you anymore,

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this is just such the perfect fit. The

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perfect segue. Into part 2, part 2 of

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your

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educational career. I don't think you could have

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said it any better. The thing that

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I think I remember you saying you had

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this too fear of not being able to

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fill your cup the way you were in

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the classroom. Mh.

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Then I remember

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I don't know. Maybe

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5 or 6 months ago, you said to

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me,

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Stephanie, I'm never going back.

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And I think that was the moments where

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you started to feel... Okay. This is my

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journey now. Yeah. And

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isn't what you expected. It doesn't look the

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same. Right. But you're still filling your cup.

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It's just a little bit different. Exactly.

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It's been

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so amazing.

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What was an unexpected thing that happened as

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you transitioned? Oh, my gosh. So probably the

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biggest

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was surprise

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and kind of full circle moment

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was

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discovering that a Fellow team member

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my ad therapist

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was in my very first class

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when she was a third grader.

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Several several

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several years ago, and she was also a

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flower girl in my wedding, which is... Oh,

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my gosh.

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Mostly.

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Several and

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reconnected

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years later, and I remember calling her and

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asking her if it was okay if I

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interviewed for this job because I didn't wanna,

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like...

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Invade her space or step on her toes,

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Like, how weird to get a phone call,

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bring your third grade teacher, you know, twenties,

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some odd years later,

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And she said, are you crazy? Oh, my

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god. Of course

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go for it, and it has been so

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much fun.

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Just seeing her

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grow and develop into this amazing

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ad therapist and now I'm learning from her,

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which is

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I mean, beyond. Right? Beyond all expectations. So

554
00:21:18,502 --> 00:21:21,041
that was probably the biggest kind of surprise

555
00:21:21,041 --> 00:21:23,941
in this whole product. Yeah. Which is just

556
00:21:24,077 --> 00:21:26,305
wonderful. I think the other thing that you

557
00:21:26,305 --> 00:21:28,136
and I have talked about some too is

558
00:21:28,136 --> 00:21:29,886
just sort of looking at things from a

559
00:21:29,886 --> 00:21:30,682
different lens.

560
00:21:31,414 --> 00:21:33,966
Now in the practice and just sort of

561
00:21:33,966 --> 00:21:36,540
learning some of the things that

562
00:21:38,034 --> 00:21:40,905
you couldn't pay attention to with 26 other

563
00:21:40,905 --> 00:21:44,274
kids. That now you can pay attention to

564
00:21:44,328 --> 00:21:46,571
with each individual student

565
00:21:46,943 --> 00:21:49,103
and what they're going through. Like we were

566
00:21:49,103 --> 00:21:51,896
just talking about vision therapy, for instance. Right?

567
00:21:52,136 --> 00:21:54,291
You wouldn't necessarily know that some of your

568
00:21:54,291 --> 00:21:56,047
students were doing it because the parents might

569
00:21:56,047 --> 00:21:56,606
not tell you.

570
00:21:57,576 --> 00:22:00,271
As a classroom teacher. And now they're telling

571
00:22:00,271 --> 00:22:02,331
you because you're part of the team. Right.

572
00:22:02,648 --> 00:22:04,179
You get the chance

573
00:22:04,964 --> 00:22:06,580
while working in this setting

574
00:22:07,197 --> 00:22:08,096
to know

575
00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:12,062
everything there is to know about your client

576
00:22:12,062 --> 00:22:14,237
in order to help them

577
00:22:14,868 --> 00:22:17,017
the best way you can and to support

578
00:22:17,017 --> 00:22:19,244
them the best way you can, and it

579
00:22:19,244 --> 00:22:21,154
really is... I mean, you said it best.

580
00:22:21,313 --> 00:22:24,113
It really is a team effort. Right? And

581
00:22:24,113 --> 00:22:25,549
so our role,

582
00:22:26,267 --> 00:22:28,761
we're 1 part of the team, and

583
00:22:29,138 --> 00:22:33,068
being able to communicate with these students teachers

584
00:22:33,206 --> 00:22:36,034
with other specialists who support them

585
00:22:36,491 --> 00:22:39,442
has been so helpful. We all kind of

586
00:22:39,442 --> 00:22:39,942
share

587
00:22:41,117 --> 00:22:43,724
information, right, and knowledge about what's working best

588
00:22:44,321 --> 00:22:47,585
what else could be try and supporting both

589
00:22:47,585 --> 00:22:50,530
the students and parents. Mh. You know, during

590
00:22:50,530 --> 00:22:52,850
that process and test you know, as a

591
00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:55,150
mom myself, like, Got it, it can be

592
00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:58,243
really scary when you're reaching out for some

593
00:22:58,243 --> 00:22:59,775
support for your kiddo. And

594
00:23:00,164 --> 00:23:02,979
it feels really good to be

595
00:23:04,155 --> 00:23:05,134
that helpful

596
00:23:05,511 --> 00:23:07,209
person. Right? Who's there

597
00:23:07,666 --> 00:23:08,166
to

598
00:23:09,116 --> 00:23:11,365
alleviate some fears for parents

599
00:23:11,898 --> 00:23:14,147
to really give our clients

600
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,357
this power. You are a learner. You are

601
00:23:18,357 --> 00:23:21,068
a reader. You are a writer. Right? Helping

602
00:23:21,068 --> 00:23:24,575
them see themselves as whatever they did not,

603
00:23:24,908 --> 00:23:27,205
when they came in. I just started with

604
00:23:27,205 --> 00:23:28,735
a new client and

605
00:23:29,424 --> 00:23:31,934
during our first session. I mean, I almost

606
00:23:32,134 --> 00:23:34,527
my heart was breaking. She said, I hate

607
00:23:34,527 --> 00:23:36,999
reading, and I was like, stop everything. Yeah.

608
00:23:37,239 --> 00:23:39,472
You know, I kept it together. But inside,

609
00:23:39,711 --> 00:23:42,279
I was falling apart. You know? Yeah. As

610
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,117
the woman who has a stack of books

611
00:23:44,117 --> 00:23:46,595
in waiting to read at all times. Right?

612
00:23:46,835 --> 00:23:50,191
So it's my job with her, like, job

613
00:23:50,191 --> 00:23:53,311
number 1 is to... Flip that thinking around,

614
00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:56,168
email and show her. Yeah. Flip the script.

615
00:23:56,565 --> 00:23:58,152
That's the 1 that we were playing with

616
00:23:58,152 --> 00:24:00,234
v inside out. Dolls. Yes.

617
00:24:01,030 --> 00:24:02,542
That was fun. We had some fun with

618
00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:04,850
that You and I. Yep. Well, and it's

619
00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:06,783
so cool to be able to

620
00:24:07,093 --> 00:24:09,498
use some, you know, non traditional

621
00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:12,592
methods and and be able to

622
00:24:13,283 --> 00:24:15,291
practice to work in

623
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,120
a more relaxed setting. That's been really, really

624
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,680
fun. You know? So my office, it looks

625
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,960
like a living room. Yes.

626
00:24:23,695 --> 00:24:26,174
Like, the big waiting rooms sort of area.

627
00:24:26,494 --> 00:24:27,934
Yeah. And you sit at the table that's,

628
00:24:28,015 --> 00:24:29,535
like, sort of the kitchen table, the dining

629
00:24:29,535 --> 00:24:32,666
room table. And there's a couch. And you

630
00:24:32,666 --> 00:24:33,623
sort of just, you know,

631
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,053
naturally treated as this just come into my

632
00:24:37,053 --> 00:24:39,685
living area type of environment, and the kids

633
00:24:39,685 --> 00:24:41,360
feel that. I can see them feeling that.

634
00:24:41,694 --> 00:24:43,775
Oh, good. Good. Well, I think I was

635
00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:46,095
like, okay, this is the biggest space.

636
00:24:46,815 --> 00:24:48,575
This is the most like a classroom. I'm

637
00:24:48,575 --> 00:24:50,335
like, I feel the most at home here.

638
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:53,230
I can move around, like, it feels good.

639
00:24:53,549 --> 00:24:56,910
And it's just so casual. It's not formal.

640
00:24:57,150 --> 00:24:59,634
U. You know, the clients just call us

641
00:24:59,634 --> 00:25:02,016
by our first name, which is wild. I

642
00:25:02,016 --> 00:25:04,342
still can't get over that. Right? Because or

643
00:25:04,557 --> 00:25:06,717
when it's not a big deal, but for

644
00:25:06,717 --> 00:25:08,388
so many years when they call you missus

645
00:25:08,468 --> 00:25:10,616
Russo so so. It's just it's just funny.

646
00:25:10,855 --> 00:25:12,765
Right. But they know you differently and they

647
00:25:12,765 --> 00:25:15,334
trust you differently. It's just not that

648
00:25:16,202 --> 00:25:17,817
sort of traditional hierarchy.

649
00:25:18,193 --> 00:25:21,718
Right? You're still a person in an authority

650
00:25:22,094 --> 00:25:23,231
position, but

651
00:25:24,577 --> 00:25:27,285
especially maybe with the younger kiddo because they

652
00:25:27,285 --> 00:25:30,153
do need some redirecting and re engaging and

653
00:25:30,153 --> 00:25:33,101
and setting some limits, you know, etcetera,

654
00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:35,669
we need to make each session as productive

655
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:38,622
as it can be, but also fun and

656
00:25:38,622 --> 00:25:41,256
also so that they are wanting to come

657
00:25:41,256 --> 00:25:43,584
back, I tell you that 1 of the

658
00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:46,296
best things I can hear from a parent

659
00:25:46,296 --> 00:25:46,796
is

660
00:25:47,253 --> 00:25:50,225
so and so always looks forward to coming

661
00:25:50,363 --> 00:25:52,372
session. Mh. You know, or I said to

662
00:25:52,372 --> 00:25:54,685
so and so, let's take this summer off

663
00:25:54,685 --> 00:25:58,136
and then we'll start again in August. And

664
00:25:58,354 --> 00:26:00,348
here she said, no. I wanna keep coming

665
00:26:00,348 --> 00:26:02,990
during the summertime time. And that just means

666
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:04,579
the world to me. That just melts my

667
00:26:04,579 --> 00:26:06,725
heart. Right? That tells me I'm on the

668
00:26:06,725 --> 00:26:09,347
right track. We're always working to improve and

669
00:26:09,347 --> 00:26:12,550
to better ourselves, but knowing that these as

670
00:26:12,550 --> 00:26:15,025
little humans are making the choice to spend

671
00:26:15,025 --> 00:26:17,899
their time with you. Mh. Is huge. Is

672
00:26:17,899 --> 00:26:20,148
huge. And I'm so grateful for it. I

673
00:26:20,148 --> 00:26:22,080
think that's a lovely way to just

674
00:26:22,933 --> 00:26:25,401
say, if you're thinking about it or you're

675
00:26:25,401 --> 00:26:27,231
a teacher and have been wondering is this

676
00:26:27,231 --> 00:26:29,061
for you that says it all.

677
00:26:29,714 --> 00:26:30,772
Right? So

678
00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:34,101
thank you for sharing your experience because I

679
00:26:34,101 --> 00:26:37,153
think it's very meaningful to hear after leaving

680
00:26:37,291 --> 00:26:39,046
a setting that you're in for so long.

681
00:26:39,858 --> 00:26:41,693
That it looks a little different,

682
00:26:42,332 --> 00:26:43,550
but how

683
00:26:44,326 --> 00:26:46,661
natural it was for you and

684
00:26:47,213 --> 00:26:50,162
now you're on this path of helping learners

685
00:26:50,162 --> 00:26:51,756
in it little bit different of a way,

686
00:26:51,995 --> 00:26:54,625
but having a huge impact on their life,

687
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:56,000
See the fact that a kid wants to

688
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000
come and still work on reading all summer

689
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,640
with you and most of your clients chose

690
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:00,880
that.

691
00:27:02,014 --> 00:27:04,251
It says something. It says something about you

692
00:27:04,251 --> 00:27:06,169
as an educator. It says something about you

693
00:27:06,169 --> 00:27:07,687
as a person, and it says something about

694
00:27:07,687 --> 00:27:09,625
the work that we do. Yeah. And

695
00:27:09,939 --> 00:27:11,715
Thank you for joining us. Thank you for

696
00:27:11,773 --> 00:27:13,847
being vulnerable and coming on and sharing your

697
00:27:13,847 --> 00:27:15,442
experience. I think it's gonna resonate with a

698
00:27:15,442 --> 00:27:17,676
lot of people. Thank you so much. It's

699
00:27:17,676 --> 00:27:19,670
just been such a pleasure. I really appreciate

700
00:27:19,670 --> 00:27:22,231
it. Go ahead and say our signature sign

701
00:27:22,231 --> 00:27:24,458
off. Have a great week, Smart. Have a

702
00:27:24,458 --> 00:27:24,935
great week.