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- Alright. Gather around everyone. This is a good

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- one. Whether you're a YSA leader or not,

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- this interview will apply to you and be

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- inspire you for sure. I happened to catch

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- Utah. We invited them into the studio to

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- heard about their branch. They,

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- Mark is the branch president of the Hemby

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- And the things that they're doing in this

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- redemptive and encouraging and stimulating culture and

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- Latter day Saints in the surrounding area in

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- their stake to connect with YSA members, young

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- something that any ward could consider.

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- That building connections and having mentorship, there's something

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- Zion like there. And so pass this on

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- So, Mark and Adrian Beck, we caught you

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- You're from North Carolina. Yes. Where exactly in

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- Awesome. Very cool. And you both have the

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- you sure. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe give us

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- the branch that all the YSA of our

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- traveling into Charlotte. So before this, it was

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- one was it one ward? YSA ward of

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- the Central Charlotte stake. Okay. And so how

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- stakes in the Charlotte area. Okay. And then

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- so every stake, it was just is this,

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- like, according to council where they said we're

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- advance of this happening. And I remember every

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- every month we get a call from a

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- counselor in the state presidency saying, how many

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- how many have you found now? And I

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- remember the number was always 20 something.

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- And after about three months,

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- time and said, it's still about 25.

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- But I I heard about this guy who

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- started a church with six people.

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- Right. And it it's turned out great.

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- what happens. Yeah. So maybe you have $1,718,000,000

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- Yeah. That's awesome. And so this didn't come

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- from necessarily from your state presidency.

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- Like, this is a director from the area

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- presidency or the area seventy saying, let's do

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- So I'm sure I mean, just like a

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- how this would work. Right? Yes. I mean,

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- how did you even begin to put this

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- the time that we were doing this, I

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- was thinking about possibly doing something new professionally.

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- And I remember on the way to meeting

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- the state president, he called to meet us

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- I I wanna make that kind of sacrifice.

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- question that's on my mind. And it was

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- for us to say yes. Yeah. Which is

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- Well So we have five wonderful children, and

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- would only live for six months at best,

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- to we were about three years, and we

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- really believe that there's lots of other couples

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- But that as we mourn, the loss of

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- Wesley,

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- it's a tender mercy that we get to

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- Yeah. To have a 100 wonderful YSA to

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- love on. Yeah. Not just every Sunday. We

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- get to love on them all week long.

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- They're they're in our home every day. That's

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- great. It's just been such a blessing. Wow.

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- Hey, Jordan. What, what do you remember from

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- it was a call for him, but obviously

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- you're involved in what direction did they give?

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- Or what do you remember from those from

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- just beginning? From the beginning,

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- wanted to love on these YSA

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- and I thought he would be amazing in

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- this calling, you know, and I was really

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- excited to get this call to work with

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- the young single adults. We love

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- the YSA. We met at a young

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- adult conference. Conference circle here. We're believers. Yeah.

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- It worked for us. So we have a

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- lot of passion about it anyway. And then

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- to have this opportunity to work with this

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- age group that

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- is just in such need of love and

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- support and guidance. And, I mean, even if

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- they're from a family that is amazing,

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- it doesn't hurt to have other people love

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- on your kids and have other people to

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- go to for advice if you're the YSA.

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- And it just really has been

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- such a joy to serve and it feels

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- so purposeful

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- and it has felt that way since the

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- very beginning. You know, we just wouldn't Mark

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- was describing when we were looking for them

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- and seeing on the roles we had, I

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- think, 400 on the roles and we were,

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- our first assignment was more than 20, I

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- think. Right.

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- And our role was let's go, go find

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- everybody. And so that's what we spent, like,

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- three months doing. Wow. And finding a lot

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- weren't there, but finding a lot that were

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- didn't wanna drive half an hour, didn't feel

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- comfortable there if they had gone.

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- And then trying to create a place like,

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- okay. Well, how how do we get them

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- to come and how are they going to

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- want to be there? Yeah. That was our

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- our big question.

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- Yeah. For sure. So tell me just the

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- the technicalities of putting this together. So you're

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- opening this branch. It's in your stake. So

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- it's under your your home stake presidency.

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- They give you building a time slot, and

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- then you say, hey. We're meeting this. Send

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- your your YSAs, or what what do you

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- remember? Just the the structure of putting it

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- together. Yeah. The first thing we had to

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- do is call some counselors.

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- In the case of Adrian and,

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- any other

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- older adults that are called, we typically call

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- couples to serve together. So Adrian's calling is

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- YSA advisor.

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- And so she doesn't have any other callings

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- in the stake or in the church.

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- And she puts in, you know, thirty hours

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- a week doing this.

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- One of the great joys is that we

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- get to do this together. Like when I

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- was stake president,

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- she was incredibly helpful, but she was always

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- kind of backing me up. Later in life,

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- she got to be Young Women's President for

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- our stake and I got to back her

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- up and, you know, help run girls camp

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- from behind the scenes. That was fun too.

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- There's really something special about being side by

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- side as sort of e coequal partners in

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- this journey together, serving the lord, loving on

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- these YSA.

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- And so we we identified two other couples

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- that we wanted to come and serve. One

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- is my first counselor, one is my second

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- counselor.

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- As the branch has strengthened today, both counselors

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- are YSA.

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- One of the first guidelines that we all

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- put together, this first group of this first

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- prize presidency,

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- was that we would not refer to the

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- YSA as kids.

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- Each other. We still mess up even now

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- sometimes. Yeah. We still do it. Yeah. But

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- we try to refer to them as branch

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- members, as young single adults.

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- And we also can't just call ourselves the

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- adults because the in inference of that is

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- that they're not. Right. Yeah. And I know

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- it sounds silly, like we're just being picky

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- about wording, but it's actually the mindset behind

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- it is really important to the culture we

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- wanted to create in this branch.

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- After we had the, two counselors and their

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- spouses called, we had to put together a

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- full branch council. And to Adrian's point, as

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- we gathered that group of about 12 YSA

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- together in our home that very first meeting,

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- half of them were called in out of

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- inactivity

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- and said, will you serve in this calling?

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- Will you serve in this calling? Wow. We

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- know you haven't been to church in a

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- year, but will you be in this calling?

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- They

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- accepted. They accepted the call to come and

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- serve, and they came and they served. And

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- we had a really special moment in that,

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- first branch council where we asked them about

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- the kind of culture they wanted to create.

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- You know, I do a little bit of

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- teaching at Cornell,

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- sometimes I go back to

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- my alma mater and teach a little bit.

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- And one of the things I love to

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- teach about is culture. What I teach is

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- that a culture is like a garden plot.

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- Like whether you plant intended or not, something's

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- going to grow. Yeah. And so you can

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- be intentional and get stuff you like, or

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- you can just ignore it and you're still

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- gonna get stuff, but you won't like it.

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- Yeah. So we kinda had that discussion, and

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- then we asked these YSA, what is the

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- culture you want?

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- And it was beautiful. Adrienne, do you remember

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- some of the words that they shared about

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- the culture they wanted? I remember

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- accepting,

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- loving.

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- Belonging,

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- judgment free zone. Yeah. Judgment free. Mhmm. Yeah.

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- And this was, like, in the setting in

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- your home just with a handful of these

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- that Yeah. Were called? Yeah. We haven't even

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- had our first cyber meeting yet. Wow. But

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- we're this branch council together to kinda we

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- had another, you know, 30 callings we had

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- to figure out and stuff.

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- But they they describe this very Zion like

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- culture, the one that any of us would

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- want for Yeah. Our home order branch to

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- be. But then we said, so what are

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- you gonna do? You are the leaders in

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- this branch. What will you do to make

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- that culture become real?

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- Talked about, you know, don't just invite someone

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- to church, go bring them. If they wanna

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- drive themselves to church, at least meet them

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- in the parking lot so they don't walk

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- in the building alone. They talked about when

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- you're done passing the sacrament or blessing the

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- sacrament, you've had a cat's eye view of

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- what's happening. If anyone's sitting alone, you go

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- sit by that person. I mean, things like

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- that were discussed and practiced. If society chose

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- to sit in the back so they could

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- see people come in and then they could

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- go move forward and sit with them. I

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- mean, it was a real concerted effort. So

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- they start in the back of like the

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- chapel and before sacrament starts and move forward

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- if need be. Yeah.

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- So anyway, anyway, they've, I think of all

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- the things that

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- culture that was created early on

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- has made it a place where people want

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- to just come and be. Mhmm. And so,

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- you know, today, we're about a 100 active

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- members. Average attendance is probably 75 on Sundays,

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- but it's a completely different group than we

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- had five years ago or even a year

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- ago. Mhmm. A lot of people have come

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- through there. We've seen about,

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- a little over 50 baptisms,

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- about 60 people that have been reactivated after

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- many years away.

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- Most Sundays, we have, you know, four or

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- five nonmembers who are in attendance.

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- And I think it's this culture that has

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- made it a place where people feel so

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- safe and welcomed and want want it. Yeah.

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- So is there anything else as far as

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- the the establishment of the culture? You know,

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- obviously, gathering sort of that leadership group where

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- everybody

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- has buy in and they're, you know, they

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- and asking them, what would this look like?

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- Right? Getting their feedback. But is there anything

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- else as far as just establishing it so

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- it can begin to get momentum?

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- I think there's a a number of things

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- we

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- do started doing that just made it a

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- a different feeling than anything else they'd experienced

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- before.

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- Linger longer once a month. Yeah. But we

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- also have dinner at our house every almost

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- every single Sunday night where we'll bring in

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- 10 to 15 of the YSAs. And and

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- we're very thoughtful about who we try to

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- bring in to try to build some

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- friendships on Sunday night. Oftentimes, there's there's so

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- many that we can't fit around the table

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- that they're sitting at. So we're off at

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- a side table, and we just sit there

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- and listen to the happy chatter

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- and the friendships being formed and the loving

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- and supporting of each other. And we just

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- smile. It's it's like music,

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- supporting of each other and

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- we just smile. It's it's like music to

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- our ears. We do some other interesting things,

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- you know, at Christmas time, we take one

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- Sunday during the month of December and we

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- clear out all the furniture of our home

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- and we turn our home into a chapel.

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- Everybody comes in. And then after the meeting,

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- we clear all the chairs and everything and

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- set up tables and sister Beck with help

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- from many friends. So is this your do

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- you have a SACRAM meeting Yes. In your

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- home? Okay. I see. For during that Christmas.

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- It's sort of it's usually the first Sunday

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- of December to kick off the Christmas season.

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- Okay. It's Christmas at the Beck's house, and

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- we usually get a great turnout. I got

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- that meeting always has more than a typical

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- because after after sacrament meeting, we have Christmas

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- dinner together. You know, that's a tradition that

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- the YSA just truly love. And and and

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- chance to get them together. We maybe just

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- try to create

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- times to spend together any chance we get.

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- Yeah. There is sort of a you know,

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- obviously, we gather on Sundays. It's you know,

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- it's a meeting. It's more formal meeting. And,

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- you know, that's great. But to be intentional,

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- look other ways

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- to gather individuals is really can set the

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- tone. Right? Yeah. Sister Betty came up with

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- this idea called Friday night hangouts where once

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- a month, just somebody who's got a large

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- enough house, they don't even have to be

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- affiliated with our branch. Just someone we know

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- opens up their home. Nothing's planned. Just YSA

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- come and hang out. And we hear from

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- the families who host these. They love it.

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- Yeah. And the YSA love it. And it's

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- just a chance to, you know, to get

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- together.

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- Another thing we do that's a little bit

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- different is for baptisms.

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- We almost always have baptisms during the second

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- hour of church.

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- So instead of It gets a big no

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- no technically.

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- We won't tell anybody. Okay?

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- I did get permission from our stake president.

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- That's good. That's true. He's a wonderful guy.

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- He he always whenever I ask for to

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- do something weird or different, he's like, you

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- are the YSA. Go ahead.

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- And, that's what he said when I asked,

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- can we just do this? But you've got

515
00:18:39.554 --> 00:18:41.875
- the entire branch there. And, yes, we go

516
00:18:41.875 --> 00:18:43.315
- to a priesthood meeting. Yes. We go to

517
00:18:43.315 --> 00:18:45.154
- Sunday school. But what could be better than

518
00:18:45.154 --> 00:18:47.414
- a baptism? Let's go to a baptism. Yeah.

519
00:18:47.509 --> 00:18:49.110
- I have gotten a little pushback from our

520
00:18:49.110 --> 00:18:51.910
- early study president lately. Like, we're sometimes we

521
00:18:51.910 --> 00:18:53.590
- get in these periods where we're baptizing, you

522
00:18:53.590 --> 00:18:55.910
- know, every three or four weeks. And she's

523
00:18:55.910 --> 00:18:57.269
- like, we gotta have for at least a

524
00:18:57.269 --> 00:18:58.170
- society sometime.

525
00:18:58.549 --> 00:18:59.049
- But,

526
00:18:59.590 --> 00:19:00.974
- we do have a lot of our baptisms

527
00:19:00.974 --> 00:19:02.414
- on second hour just because I think it

528
00:19:02.414 --> 00:19:04.015
- gets the whole branch right there to welcome

529
00:19:04.015 --> 00:19:06.494
- the new member. Yeah. Right right there. So

530
00:19:06.494 --> 00:19:08.414
- you just announced the sacrament meeting, hey. We're

531
00:19:08.575 --> 00:19:10.914
- we have a baptism today, and then everybody

532
00:19:11.214 --> 00:19:14.414
- files into the baptismal font room or whatever.

533
00:19:14.414 --> 00:19:16.869
- Right? Yeah. We gather it. It sometimes it's

534
00:19:16.869 --> 00:19:18.230
- in the chapel, sometimes it's in the early

535
00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:21.130
- society room, but, yeah, we have you know,

536
00:19:21.269 --> 00:19:23.450
- we go right into the baptism right afterwards.

537
00:19:23.830 --> 00:19:25.190
- I'll tell you a funny story. One time,

538
00:19:25.190 --> 00:19:26.950
- it was about six months ago, we had

539
00:19:26.950 --> 00:19:28.390
- a guy who'd only been a member for

540
00:19:28.390 --> 00:19:29.130
- a few months

541
00:19:29.605 --> 00:19:32.724
- baptizing someone else. And so it's, obviously for

542
00:19:32.724 --> 00:19:34.164
- the person being baptized, it was his first

543
00:19:34.164 --> 00:19:36.404
- time. And for the baptizer, it was also

544
00:19:36.404 --> 00:19:37.865
- his his first time baptizing,

545
00:19:38.244 --> 00:19:40.325
- probably the second baptism he'd ever been at.

546
00:19:40.325 --> 00:19:42.264
- But we're all gathering together,

547
00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.599
- waiting for these guys to show up in

548
00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:46.039
- their whites, you know, so we can start

549
00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:46.700
- the meeting.

550
00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.919
- And the sister missionaries come up to me

551
00:19:48.919 --> 00:19:50.299
- and say, we have a problem.

552
00:19:50.679 --> 00:19:53.240
- The two brothers are actually standing in the

553
00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:54.940
- font, waist high in water,

554
00:19:55.465 --> 00:19:57.545
- ready to go. Oh, they're they jumped the

555
00:19:57.545 --> 00:19:59.065
- gun a little bit. They totally jumped the

556
00:19:59.065 --> 00:20:01.945
- gun. So I turned to the, branch mission

557
00:20:01.945 --> 00:20:03.225
- leader and said, what do you think we

558
00:20:03.225 --> 00:20:05.465
- should do? And he said, I guess we'll

559
00:20:05.465 --> 00:20:06.664
- just all need to go in there and

560
00:20:06.664 --> 00:20:07.829
- have an opening prayer.

561
00:20:08.869 --> 00:20:10.950
- Oh my goodness. We just said, every go

562
00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:13.130
- to the font, we had an opening prayer,

563
00:20:13.269 --> 00:20:14.250
- we had the baptism,

564
00:20:14.789 --> 00:20:16.470
- then we all went back to the chapel,

565
00:20:16.470 --> 00:20:18.309
- then had the rest of the meeting. Oh,

566
00:20:18.309 --> 00:20:20.309
- wow. And it worked out great. Yes. But

567
00:20:20.309 --> 00:20:22.194
- I just love that they were so excited

568
00:20:22.194 --> 00:20:24.514
- to do the baptism. They forgot we had

569
00:20:24.514 --> 00:20:25.394
- a little bit of,

570
00:20:25.954 --> 00:20:29.394
- opening exercises. That's awesome. That's really good. Anything

571
00:20:29.394 --> 00:20:31.554
- else as far as establishing culture, the culture

572
00:20:31.554 --> 00:20:34.434
- of the of the branch, or anything else

573
00:20:34.434 --> 00:20:36.769
- coming in? You know, this is nothing that

574
00:20:36.769 --> 00:20:39.429
- we did, but just from the get go,

575
00:20:39.809 --> 00:20:41.589
- their testimony meetings

576
00:20:42.130 --> 00:20:42.869
- are unbelievable.

577
00:20:43.569 --> 00:20:44.069
- They're

578
00:20:44.450 --> 00:20:45.589
- so raw

579
00:20:45.970 --> 00:20:46.710
- and honest.

580
00:20:47.089 --> 00:20:48.710
- I'll be honest. I was a little uncomfortable

581
00:20:48.849 --> 00:20:51.575
- at first, like, oh, you know, thinking, oh,

582
00:20:51.575 --> 00:20:53.195
- no, you're oversharing, you know?

583
00:20:54.134 --> 00:20:55.815
- You know, my growing up and in a

584
00:20:55.815 --> 00:20:58.375
- typical ward, I've never seen people bear their

585
00:20:58.375 --> 00:21:01.174
- soul like that. And I love it now,

586
00:21:01.174 --> 00:21:02.934
- you know, and it doesn't make me uncomfortable

587
00:21:02.934 --> 00:21:04.715
- in the slightest now, but

588
00:21:05.059 --> 00:21:07.079
- it was just part of that culture

589
00:21:08.259 --> 00:21:11.059
- that you can say you can be who

590
00:21:11.059 --> 00:21:12.599
- you are. You can say anything,

591
00:21:13.299 --> 00:21:15.079
- and we love you. And

592
00:21:15.619 --> 00:21:16.679
- you should be comfortable

593
00:21:17.464 --> 00:21:20.184
- sharing all of your secrets if you want.

594
00:21:20.184 --> 00:21:22.765
- You know? And and they do. And

595
00:21:23.144 --> 00:21:23.644
- it's

596
00:21:24.105 --> 00:21:25.884
- just been phenomenal as

597
00:21:26.184 --> 00:21:29.164
- an old person to see this happen. And

598
00:21:29.659 --> 00:21:32.460
- I think, gosh, they have it right. I

599
00:21:32.460 --> 00:21:34.940
- wish that this was church wide. Just the

600
00:21:34.940 --> 00:21:35.440
- honesty

601
00:21:36.140 --> 00:21:36.640
- helps

602
00:21:37.099 --> 00:21:38.480
- others. You know, it builds

603
00:21:38.940 --> 00:21:41.179
- your testimony. You and you see the change

604
00:21:41.179 --> 00:21:43.019
- in them and what the gospel does for

605
00:21:43.019 --> 00:21:43.759
- them and

606
00:21:44.255 --> 00:21:46.894
- how being vulnerable allows other people to help

607
00:21:46.894 --> 00:21:49.134
- them and serve them and and love on

608
00:21:49.134 --> 00:21:51.455
- them and get up and say, you know

609
00:21:51.455 --> 00:21:53.555
- what? You know, whoever it was,

610
00:21:53.934 --> 00:21:56.015
- I feel that way too, or I've had

611
00:21:56.015 --> 00:21:58.589
- something like that. And it just has created

612
00:21:58.649 --> 00:22:00.750
- such a culture of sharing

613
00:22:01.690 --> 00:22:04.009
- and really knowing each other. And I think

614
00:22:04.009 --> 00:22:04.829
- that's been

615
00:22:05.130 --> 00:22:07.630
- part of the success of the branch. Yeah.

616
00:22:07.690 --> 00:22:10.089
- Is there anything specific that stimulated that or

617
00:22:10.089 --> 00:22:12.589
- it's just people feeling more comfortable and

618
00:22:12.894 --> 00:22:14.434
- and opening up in that culture?

619
00:22:14.815 --> 00:22:17.394
- I don't know if it's anything that anybody

620
00:22:17.535 --> 00:22:18.035
- ever

621
00:22:18.734 --> 00:22:19.234
- intentionally

622
00:22:20.255 --> 00:22:23.054
- did. I think just maybe giving them their

623
00:22:23.054 --> 00:22:26.035
- space Yeah. And having it be their own.

624
00:22:26.529 --> 00:22:27.910
- Yeah. Like, framework.

625
00:22:28.289 --> 00:22:29.569
- I think there were a few of our

626
00:22:29.569 --> 00:22:30.069
- our

627
00:22:30.529 --> 00:22:32.710
- first group of young single adult leaders.

628
00:22:33.089 --> 00:22:35.329
- One, you know, was had come home early

629
00:22:35.329 --> 00:22:37.190
- from his mission. Then I remember

630
00:22:37.730 --> 00:22:39.650
- the very first priesthood meeting. He he was

631
00:22:39.650 --> 00:22:41.509
- called to be the Dallas Quorum president,

632
00:22:42.144 --> 00:22:44.625
- and he was very authentic about how he

633
00:22:44.625 --> 00:22:45.684
- felt about that.

634
00:22:46.065 --> 00:22:47.744
- And he felt, you know, there were some

635
00:22:47.744 --> 00:22:50.224
- feelings he he just shared very openly with

636
00:22:50.224 --> 00:22:50.724
- everyone.

637
00:22:51.025 --> 00:22:52.644
- There were a few others who I think

638
00:22:52.704 --> 00:22:54.704
- were good at setting the example. Like, I'm

639
00:22:54.704 --> 00:22:56.164
- going to be authentic,

640
00:22:56.529 --> 00:22:58.950
- and then we created this culture of safety.

641
00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:01.190
- I think we also tried to be authentic.

642
00:23:01.490 --> 00:23:04.090
- And then we always talk about not just

643
00:23:04.289 --> 00:23:06.450
- I mean, the testimonies are are about, yeah,

644
00:23:06.450 --> 00:23:08.150
- I'm struggling with this issue.

645
00:23:08.464 --> 00:23:09.605
- They always come back

646
00:23:10.144 --> 00:23:12.224
- to how relying on the atonement of Jesus

647
00:23:12.224 --> 00:23:13.285
- Christ made a difference.

648
00:23:13.744 --> 00:23:16.144
- I think as each person hears that testimony,

649
00:23:16.144 --> 00:23:16.644
- then

650
00:23:16.945 --> 00:23:19.025
- that sparks something in them to get up

651
00:23:19.025 --> 00:23:21.505
- and talk about how their relationship with Jesus

652
00:23:21.505 --> 00:23:24.070
- Christ made a difference for them. Yeah. Really

653
00:23:24.070 --> 00:23:26.070
- interesting. Love to hear it. Tell me about

654
00:23:26.070 --> 00:23:27.369
- this as far as the belonging

655
00:23:27.670 --> 00:23:30.549
- leading to significant burden on on leaders Yeah.

656
00:23:30.710 --> 00:23:32.009
- Or on leadership. Okay.

657
00:23:32.549 --> 00:23:35.670
- So, you know, the diversity in this branch

658
00:23:35.670 --> 00:23:38.454
- is quite remarkable. I mean, I think, I

659
00:23:38.454 --> 00:23:40.054
- would say that at least half of the

660
00:23:40.054 --> 00:23:40.554
- congregation

661
00:23:41.095 --> 00:23:41.595
- is

662
00:23:41.894 --> 00:23:43.515
- ethnically or racially diverse.

663
00:23:44.454 --> 00:23:44.954
- Socioeconomically,

664
00:23:45.734 --> 00:23:48.054
- we have we've had or do have people

665
00:23:48.054 --> 00:23:48.554
- who

666
00:23:48.950 --> 00:23:50.710
- have worked at big banks like, you know,

667
00:23:50.710 --> 00:23:52.710
- Goldman Sachs. We have a guy working at

668
00:23:52.710 --> 00:23:55.690
- Vanguard right now. We also have people who

669
00:23:55.990 --> 00:23:57.589
- at the moment but when we first meet

670
00:23:57.589 --> 00:23:59.369
- them, they're living in a car,

671
00:23:59.670 --> 00:24:01.589
- and they don't have a job, and they're

672
00:24:01.589 --> 00:24:02.809
- struggling and

673
00:24:03.274 --> 00:24:05.355
- have quite a few who live at home

674
00:24:05.355 --> 00:24:07.274
- still, and they might be in their mid

675
00:24:07.274 --> 00:24:08.575
- to late twenties and still

676
00:24:08.875 --> 00:24:09.534
- have not

677
00:24:09.835 --> 00:24:11.835
- reached a point in their lives where they

678
00:24:11.835 --> 00:24:12.575
- can be independent.

679
00:24:13.274 --> 00:24:15.835
- We have quite a few with, anxiety or

680
00:24:15.835 --> 00:24:18.369
- depression issues. We have a fair number that

681
00:24:18.369 --> 00:24:20.769
- are special needs, whether it be something like

682
00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:22.869
- being on the out autism spectrum.

683
00:24:23.329 --> 00:24:24.710
- So it's just this really

684
00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:26.150
- broad diversity,

685
00:24:27.089 --> 00:24:29.089
- which coming back to this idea of the

686
00:24:29.089 --> 00:24:30.789
- unity and love in this award,

687
00:24:31.105 --> 00:24:33.065
- in this branch is just amazing because it

688
00:24:33.105 --> 00:24:35.345
- it's there's not a bunch of homogeneous people

689
00:24:35.345 --> 00:24:38.244
- at all. Mhmm. But because of all those

690
00:24:38.304 --> 00:24:39.204
- different backgrounds,

691
00:24:39.825 --> 00:24:40.804
- I found myself

692
00:24:41.424 --> 00:24:43.505
- spending hours and hours and hours and hours

693
00:24:43.505 --> 00:24:44.005
- counseling

694
00:24:44.380 --> 00:24:46.220
- with YSA who wanted to talk to their

695
00:24:46.220 --> 00:24:49.419
- vice president about their anxiety, about getting ready

696
00:24:49.419 --> 00:24:52.159
- for a mission, about whatever it is. But

697
00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:54.220
- there just were not enough this just was

698
00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:56.299
- not enough time. You know, Adrian and I,

699
00:24:56.299 --> 00:24:58.700
- we own two businesses in North Carolina. I'm

700
00:24:58.700 --> 00:25:00.755
- on the board of directors of three large

701
00:25:00.755 --> 00:25:03.474
- multibillion companies. I I mean, even even if

702
00:25:03.474 --> 00:25:05.794
- I didn't do anything but branch president, which

703
00:25:05.794 --> 00:25:08.355
- I'd love that. Right. There would not have

704
00:25:08.355 --> 00:25:10.514
- been enough time. Yeah. And so as I

705
00:25:10.514 --> 00:25:12.755
- was struggling, I had one young YSA in

706
00:25:12.755 --> 00:25:15.840
- particular who who basically was asking for, you

707
00:25:15.840 --> 00:25:18.559
- know, two hours sessions three days a week.

708
00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:20.720
- Just one. And it felt that's what this

709
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.880
- person needed, and he he he probably was

710
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:24.960
- right. As I was praying about him, I

711
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:26.799
- just a a man's name came in my

712
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.160
- mind, someone I did not know very well

713
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:30.134
- on the stake. And I called the stake

714
00:25:30.134 --> 00:25:31.975
- president and got permission to reach out and

715
00:25:31.975 --> 00:25:33.654
- and just say, can can I ask this

716
00:25:33.654 --> 00:25:34.154
- brother

717
00:25:34.535 --> 00:25:35.035
- to

718
00:25:35.495 --> 00:25:38.055
- spend in, you know, serious amounts of time

719
00:25:38.055 --> 00:25:39.195
- with this one YSA?

720
00:25:39.735 --> 00:25:41.735
- And then we had another situation that was,

721
00:25:42.134 --> 00:25:44.919
- somebody who literally just, when they were days

722
00:25:44.919 --> 00:25:45.899
- old, had been

723
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:47.419
- given away

724
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.279
- to a family member. So their his own

725
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:51.980
- parents didn't want him. He had a rough

726
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.279
- childhood and and had gone through a very

727
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:54.779
- rough

728
00:25:55.159 --> 00:25:57.079
- patch, had left the church for a number

729
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:59.285
- of years, was just coming back to us,

730
00:25:59.285 --> 00:25:59.785
- mostly

731
00:26:00.164 --> 00:26:02.184
- kind of a a sense of desperation.

732
00:26:02.884 --> 00:26:04.805
- And I I looked at how much effort

733
00:26:04.805 --> 00:26:06.105
- this was going to be,

734
00:26:06.484 --> 00:26:09.605
- and I asked, another brother a mistake if

735
00:26:09.605 --> 00:26:12.079
- they would. Then we had a young man

736
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:12.579
- who

737
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:14.659
- applied for a job, got the job.

738
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.139
- And then when it got to HR,

739
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.200
- was told he couldn't have the job because

740
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:20.819
- he had dropped out of high school.

741
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.220
- And Adrian helped this individual,

742
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:25.599
- not only with the GED, but helped him

743
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.315
- with getting into some trade schools and, and

744
00:26:28.315 --> 00:26:29.454
- get some other skills.

745
00:26:29.914 --> 00:26:32.474
- So after these three experiences, in all three

746
00:26:32.474 --> 00:26:35.194
- cases, tremendous progress was made, more progress than

747
00:26:35.194 --> 00:26:36.734
- if I had been trying to do it.

748
00:26:36.954 --> 00:26:38.795
- And then I looked and said, there's 30

749
00:26:38.795 --> 00:26:41.375
- more that need this kind of help. Yeah.

750
00:26:41.700 --> 00:26:44.019
- And, you know, in in counseling with our

751
00:26:44.019 --> 00:26:46.599
- branch council, with our our stake high councilor,

752
00:26:46.659 --> 00:26:49.299
- with sister Beck, we came up with this

753
00:26:49.299 --> 00:26:51.159
- idea of a mentoring program

754
00:26:51.539 --> 00:26:53.240
- that would be a little bit more organized

755
00:26:54.174 --> 00:26:56.815
- and identified about 30 to 35

756
00:26:56.815 --> 00:26:58.734
- of the members of the branch who we

757
00:26:58.734 --> 00:27:00.115
- felt could benefit

758
00:27:00.654 --> 00:27:02.835
- from having a an assigned mentor.

759
00:27:03.295 --> 00:27:05.315
- This is a little bit different than ministering.

760
00:27:05.375 --> 00:27:07.714
- The ministering is what's happening within the branch

761
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.000
- between branch members. Mhmm. This is reaching outside

762
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:11.580
- the branch

763
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.460
- to people in other units in the stake

764
00:27:14.600 --> 00:27:17.000
- who maybe have a little extra time. Maybe

765
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.400
- their own children have moved, you know, moved

766
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:19.900
- out,

767
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.095
- but who, you know, are wonderful parents or

768
00:27:23.095 --> 00:27:24.315
- successful in their careers

769
00:27:24.695 --> 00:27:26.634
- or maybe even have specialized training.

770
00:27:27.015 --> 00:27:30.695
- And prayerfully matching up a mentor with someone

771
00:27:30.695 --> 00:27:31.434
- in the branch

772
00:27:31.815 --> 00:27:34.769
- and providing that person that branch member with

773
00:27:34.930 --> 00:27:36.630
- just a a very focused

774
00:27:37.490 --> 00:27:39.410
- support system that they may not have.

775
00:27:39.809 --> 00:27:42.049
- Initially, when I asked the first three, you

776
00:27:42.049 --> 00:27:44.049
- know, to to be mentors, I I had

777
00:27:44.049 --> 00:27:45.890
- said to them, please meet with this person

778
00:27:45.890 --> 00:27:47.349
- twice a week at a minimum.

779
00:27:47.994 --> 00:27:50.315
- And, we just you know, it's it's been

780
00:27:50.315 --> 00:27:52.954
- interesting. We I would say about a third

781
00:27:52.954 --> 00:27:56.654
- of these have gone nowhere. They've failed,

782
00:27:57.274 --> 00:27:58.095
- these pairings.

783
00:27:58.714 --> 00:28:00.394
- About a third have been really good, have

784
00:28:00.394 --> 00:28:03.034
- made a difference, changed the trajectory of someone's

785
00:28:03.034 --> 00:28:05.210
- life. And then about a third have just

786
00:28:05.210 --> 00:28:06.109
- been miraculous,

787
00:28:06.730 --> 00:28:09.389
- where I believe, you know, eternal friendships

788
00:28:09.690 --> 00:28:12.649
- Yeah. Have been forged. And, you know, it

789
00:28:12.730 --> 00:28:14.970
- it's a bond, you know, probably second only

790
00:28:14.970 --> 00:28:16.409
- to the bond between a parent and a

791
00:28:16.409 --> 00:28:18.409
- child, but it's very close to that. Yeah.

792
00:28:18.409 --> 00:28:19.309
- And it's just

793
00:28:19.664 --> 00:28:20.884
- beautiful to see.

794
00:28:21.345 --> 00:28:24.485
- And, the impact that we've made on 20

795
00:28:24.705 --> 00:28:27.105
- lives is, you know, that the mentors have

796
00:28:27.105 --> 00:28:29.045
- made Yeah. 20 lives is just incredible.

797
00:28:29.424 --> 00:28:31.184
- So this is huge because, you know, I

798
00:28:31.424 --> 00:28:34.630
- you know, the traditional non YSA bishop or

799
00:28:34.630 --> 00:28:36.950
- branch president I mean, the burden of meeting

800
00:28:36.950 --> 00:28:39.830
- with individuals and appointment schedules can get pretty

801
00:28:39.830 --> 00:28:41.610
- heavy, but every YSA,

802
00:28:42.390 --> 00:28:43.529
- you know, single adult

803
00:28:43.830 --> 00:28:45.910
- branch president or bishop that I talk to

804
00:28:45.910 --> 00:28:48.714
- is, like, crippling, you know, just so heavy.

805
00:28:49.335 --> 00:28:50.855
- And the demand is so high and your

806
00:28:50.855 --> 00:28:52.375
- heart just breaks because you're like, I am

807
00:28:52.375 --> 00:28:53.355
- but one man.

808
00:28:53.894 --> 00:28:55.575
- There's not enough time at on the the

809
00:28:55.575 --> 00:28:57.654
- calendar. And and sometimes it can be I

810
00:28:57.654 --> 00:28:59.595
- hear some spending almost daily,

811
00:28:59.899 --> 00:29:02.139
- you know, or every evening at the church

812
00:29:02.139 --> 00:29:03.419
- trying to stay up with it all. And

813
00:29:03.419 --> 00:29:05.440
- so I think this is something to really

814
00:29:05.899 --> 00:29:07.359
- consider and learn from.

815
00:29:07.740 --> 00:29:10.319
- So maybe, like, give us a typical scenario.

816
00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:13.599
- Like, somebody's struggling with something. It could be,

817
00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:14.319
- I mean,

818
00:29:14.664 --> 00:29:17.644
- worthiness related, could be addiction related, could be

819
00:29:17.865 --> 00:29:19.424
- job related. I I mean and they come

820
00:29:19.545 --> 00:29:21.305
- they send them an appointment and say, I

821
00:29:21.305 --> 00:29:23.144
- need help or I need to confess something

822
00:29:23.144 --> 00:29:25.484
- or walk us through a typical scenario. Yeah.

823
00:29:25.865 --> 00:29:27.724
- In the training we gave to the mentors,

824
00:29:27.944 --> 00:29:30.025
- we actually had the training was primarily conducted

825
00:29:30.025 --> 00:29:32.980
- by the Relief Society president and Eldersborn president.

826
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:34.720
- But one of the things that we we

827
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.679
- did explain was if someone starts to confess

828
00:29:37.679 --> 00:29:39.619
- something, please tell them to stop

829
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.480
- and come see me. That I'm I'm the

830
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:43.919
- only one with the keys that can help

831
00:29:43.919 --> 00:29:46.154
- with that. But so many of these

832
00:29:46.615 --> 00:29:49.994
- wonderful YSA are struggling with other things that

833
00:29:50.134 --> 00:29:51.994
- anyone could help. And in

834
00:29:52.375 --> 00:29:54.615
- most cases, there's someone better than me that

835
00:29:54.615 --> 00:29:56.855
- can help them with it. Mhmm. And so

836
00:29:56.855 --> 00:29:57.355
- maybe,

837
00:29:57.734 --> 00:30:00.140
- Adrian, there's a couple of examples you could

838
00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:00.880
- think about.

839
00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:03.500
- Maybe some of them, the nurses that we've

840
00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:04.240
- worked with

841
00:30:04.539 --> 00:30:05.839
- or some weren't necessarily

842
00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.220
- long term like we had a couple of

843
00:30:08.220 --> 00:30:10.460
- young ladies that were going through the CNA

844
00:30:10.460 --> 00:30:12.195
- program and needed coaching

845
00:30:12.894 --> 00:30:15.455
- and needed someone to practice on needed someone

846
00:30:15.455 --> 00:30:17.455
- who knew what they were doing. So we

847
00:30:17.455 --> 00:30:19.055
- have this great lady in our stake is

848
00:30:19.055 --> 00:30:21.215
- a nurse, and she stepped in twice now

849
00:30:21.215 --> 00:30:22.674
- to help two different

850
00:30:23.055 --> 00:30:24.994
- YSA's help pass their CNA.

851
00:30:25.529 --> 00:30:27.309
- So that was a short term one,

852
00:30:27.769 --> 00:30:29.470
- but, you know, we've had

853
00:30:30.170 --> 00:30:31.150
- just people

854
00:30:31.450 --> 00:30:33.230
- become a second parent

855
00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:35.150
- to some of these YSA

856
00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:36.430
- and,

857
00:30:37.529 --> 00:30:39.744
- figure out, okay, what is it that they

858
00:30:39.744 --> 00:30:41.105
- need? Do you know, do they need help

859
00:30:41.105 --> 00:30:43.345
- finding a job? Do they need help getting

860
00:30:43.345 --> 00:30:44.805
- scholarships for school?

861
00:30:45.184 --> 00:30:46.464
- Do they need to learn how to drive

862
00:30:46.464 --> 00:30:47.984
- a car? I mean, we've had all of

863
00:30:47.984 --> 00:30:48.805
- these situations,

864
00:30:49.184 --> 00:30:52.325
- you know, and have had old people

865
00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:53.960
- help them out and

866
00:30:54.420 --> 00:30:57.140
- just take these YSA under their wing and

867
00:30:57.140 --> 00:30:58.900
- really change their lives. Now I will say

868
00:30:58.900 --> 00:30:59.799
- that it takes

869
00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:02.920
- both wanting it. Some of our YSA just

870
00:31:03.140 --> 00:31:05.000
- never would respond to their

871
00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:08.484
- mentor that was assigned to them. And, you

872
00:31:08.484 --> 00:31:10.085
- know, we just figured, well, I guess they're

873
00:31:10.085 --> 00:31:12.804
- not feeling that they need it. And so

874
00:31:12.804 --> 00:31:15.044
- it does take both wanting to do it,

875
00:31:15.044 --> 00:31:16.585
- the mentor and the mentee.

876
00:31:17.044 --> 00:31:19.125
- Well, let me ask you this question. So

877
00:31:19.125 --> 00:31:22.585
- how many mentors on average are you having

878
00:31:23.009 --> 00:31:24.549
- involved in in the branch?

879
00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:27.330
- I don't actually know that number right now,

880
00:31:27.330 --> 00:31:28.549
- actually. It's constantly

881
00:31:28.930 --> 00:31:31.170
- adjusting, but it's between thirty and thirty five.

882
00:31:31.170 --> 00:31:34.210
- Okay. And we every six months, all the

883
00:31:34.210 --> 00:31:36.525
- mentors get together and to the direction of

884
00:31:36.585 --> 00:31:37.545
- our of our,

885
00:31:38.025 --> 00:31:39.884
- high counselor that's assigned to our branch.

886
00:31:40.184 --> 00:31:42.105
- He gets them together, and they kinda share

887
00:31:42.105 --> 00:31:44.424
- what's working, what's not working. And then at

888
00:31:44.424 --> 00:31:46.184
- that same time, about every six months, we

889
00:31:46.184 --> 00:31:48.204
- sit step back with the elders quorum president,

890
00:31:48.424 --> 00:31:49.244
- recent president,

891
00:31:49.809 --> 00:31:50.869
- sister Mac, myself,

892
00:31:51.490 --> 00:31:53.809
- and the, high councilor, and we kinda look

893
00:31:53.809 --> 00:31:55.330
- at which ones are working. Let's leave those

894
00:31:55.330 --> 00:31:58.130
- alone. Which ones maybe failed? Let's try again

895
00:31:58.130 --> 00:32:00.609
- with someone else. And then there's others where,

896
00:32:00.609 --> 00:32:02.130
- well, that guy's down a mission, and that

897
00:32:02.130 --> 00:32:04.005
- one's married. Now one's off to BYU. And,

898
00:32:04.085 --> 00:32:05.365
- yeah, you know, and there's lots of those

899
00:32:05.365 --> 00:32:06.505
- kind of stories too.

900
00:32:06.964 --> 00:32:09.285
- So, it's sort of a constantly changing, but

901
00:32:09.285 --> 00:32:11.204
- it's roughly 30 to 35 at any one

902
00:32:11.204 --> 00:32:13.444
- given time. And these individuals all come from

903
00:32:13.444 --> 00:32:15.384
- your stake? All of the mentors

904
00:32:15.765 --> 00:32:17.940
- come from our stake. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And

905
00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:20.019
- we've really tried to present it as not

906
00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:22.279
- this is another calling for you. We really

907
00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:23.400
- want it to be

908
00:32:23.779 --> 00:32:24.440
- this is

909
00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.380
- hopefully someone that you will feel like is

910
00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:29.380
- part of your family. Yeah. That's what we're

911
00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:30.519
- going for, and

912
00:32:30.865 --> 00:32:33.024
- we don't want it just a box to

913
00:32:33.024 --> 00:32:34.164
- check, you know,

914
00:32:34.544 --> 00:32:37.424
- we want them to understand you are changing

915
00:32:37.424 --> 00:32:39.845
- a life and this person needs you

916
00:32:40.384 --> 00:32:41.524
- and needs

917
00:32:42.224 --> 00:32:44.884
- someone to take an interest in them and,

918
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.160
- and really be there and love them. Yeah.

919
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.740
- So it's a big ask. Yeah.

920
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.359
- So I would imagine you're someone comes in,

921
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.200
- meet with with you and maybe there's a

922
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.440
- appointment or two, and it's obvious that maybe

923
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:57.740
- some more support's here.

924
00:32:58.065 --> 00:32:58.565
- And

925
00:32:59.024 --> 00:33:00.944
- you make the invitation. Hey. Listen. I would

926
00:33:00.944 --> 00:33:02.464
- like to pair you up with a mentor.

927
00:33:02.464 --> 00:33:04.065
- Would you be willing to lean into that

928
00:33:04.065 --> 00:33:05.984
- type of thing? Yeah. I think this is

929
00:33:05.984 --> 00:33:07.904
- maybe an area where we learned a bit

930
00:33:07.904 --> 00:33:09.984
- of may may have made a mistake where

931
00:33:09.984 --> 00:33:11.664
- the first group, I think we've made it

932
00:33:11.664 --> 00:33:13.779
- a little too formal. Mhmm. You know, we

933
00:33:13.779 --> 00:33:15.779
- called all the mentees together. I gave it

934
00:33:15.779 --> 00:33:18.019
- a little talk about how mentors have blessed

935
00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:19.880
- my life, and having a mentor

936
00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:21.400
- just means you have potential.

937
00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:24.660
- So, you know, please lean into this. What

938
00:33:24.660 --> 00:33:26.019
- we found works a little bit better would

939
00:33:26.019 --> 00:33:27.924
- be more of a casual thing like, hey,

940
00:33:27.924 --> 00:33:29.125
- Kurt. You know, you just talked to me

941
00:33:29.125 --> 00:33:31.045
- about you're really interested in changing making a

942
00:33:31.045 --> 00:33:32.105
- pivot in your career.

943
00:33:32.404 --> 00:33:34.085
- I know somebody in our state who is

944
00:33:34.085 --> 00:33:34.744
- a pilot.

945
00:33:35.045 --> 00:33:36.565
- And how would you feel about meeting with

946
00:33:36.565 --> 00:33:38.404
- them on occasion and getting some advice on

947
00:33:38.404 --> 00:33:40.679
- how to become a pilot? Oh, sounds great.

948
00:33:40.679 --> 00:33:42.359
- So it's it's that sort of thing is

949
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.359
- how we do it now Yeah. As opposed

950
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.759
- to this big formal meeting. Okay. Now you're

951
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:48.919
- gonna go meet your your mentor and all.

952
00:33:48.919 --> 00:33:51.659
- We sort of made it more natural. Yeah.

953
00:33:51.955 --> 00:33:54.715
- Is it hard to deter and like, how

954
00:33:54.715 --> 00:33:57.095
- do you figure out what type of person

955
00:33:57.555 --> 00:33:59.255
- in the state can mentor? And,

956
00:33:59.555 --> 00:34:01.234
- I mean, does it how how do you

957
00:34:01.234 --> 00:34:03.315
- know which ones to pair up? So our

958
00:34:03.315 --> 00:34:05.234
- stake high councilor is kind of the liaison

959
00:34:05.234 --> 00:34:06.455
- with the stake council,

960
00:34:06.929 --> 00:34:09.170
- and they they spend especially on that first

961
00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:11.010
- point, we had to get 30 going all

962
00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:11.670
- at once.

963
00:34:12.130 --> 00:34:13.190
- They reviewed

964
00:34:13.889 --> 00:34:14.869
- in state council

965
00:34:15.250 --> 00:34:17.510
- and provided back to us recommendations.

966
00:34:18.289 --> 00:34:20.385
- You know, we've only been in ours, where

967
00:34:20.385 --> 00:34:22.385
- we live now for ten years, and now

968
00:34:22.385 --> 00:34:23.925
- half of that has been in the YSA.

969
00:34:24.224 --> 00:34:25.664
- So we don't feel like we know everybody

970
00:34:25.664 --> 00:34:27.585
- in the state all that well. And so

971
00:34:27.585 --> 00:34:29.025
- we have leaned very hard on the state

972
00:34:29.025 --> 00:34:30.804
- council to help give us recommendations

973
00:34:31.505 --> 00:34:33.445
- of people that that would be good mentors.

974
00:34:33.585 --> 00:34:35.125
- Yeah. Interesting. So

975
00:34:35.429 --> 00:34:38.089
- you may communicate to the Stake High counselor

976
00:34:38.630 --> 00:34:40.550
- some general things that you're in need of,

977
00:34:40.550 --> 00:34:42.069
- and then he'll take you to the Stake

978
00:34:42.069 --> 00:34:44.630
- High Council and and maybe present a, hey,

979
00:34:44.630 --> 00:34:46.389
- we're looking for individuals who can help with

980
00:34:46.389 --> 00:34:47.989
- a, b, and c. And Yeah. And then

981
00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.329
- you get some names. Yes. Oh, that's awesome.

982
00:34:50.614 --> 00:34:52.135
- And so then you get a name, and

983
00:34:52.135 --> 00:34:53.275
- then then that person,

984
00:34:53.574 --> 00:34:55.014
- you reach out to them, they come to

985
00:34:55.014 --> 00:34:56.694
- a training. How does that work? So for

986
00:34:56.694 --> 00:34:58.234
- each one of the new mentors,

987
00:34:58.694 --> 00:35:00.714
- the stake presidency, and I decide

988
00:35:01.094 --> 00:35:03.174
- who should reach out. If it's someone I

989
00:35:03.174 --> 00:35:05.042
- don't know, it's usually gonna be a member

990
00:35:05.042 --> 00:35:06.690
- of the stake presidency that will reach out.

991
00:35:06.690 --> 00:35:08.050
- If it's somebody that I already know or

992
00:35:08.050 --> 00:35:10.390
- someone that's somehow working with the branch anyway,

993
00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:12.530
- then they'll say that I, you know, I

994
00:35:12.530 --> 00:35:14.610
- can just reach out. And now more recently,

995
00:35:14.610 --> 00:35:17.090
- our stake head counselor that's very much involved

996
00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:18.769
- in this, he's he's also doing some of

997
00:35:18.769 --> 00:35:21.335
- the reach out. But I think if anything,

998
00:35:21.635 --> 00:35:23.335
- I would convey about this is

999
00:35:23.635 --> 00:35:24.934
- we really try to

1000
00:35:25.235 --> 00:35:27.974
- follow the spirit and ask for guidance

1001
00:35:28.434 --> 00:35:30.594
- about every step of this. Like, what is

1002
00:35:30.594 --> 00:35:31.655
- it this YSA

1003
00:35:32.180 --> 00:35:35.460
- needs mentorship on? Okay. Let's get inspiration on

1004
00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:38.099
- that. Who could be the best mentor for

1005
00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:40.180
- that? Let's give inspiration on that. How do

1006
00:35:40.180 --> 00:35:42.099
- we approach the mentor? Let's get inspiration on

1007
00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:43.860
- that. So each step of the way, we're

1008
00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:45.700
- trying to trying to get some guidance so

1009
00:35:45.700 --> 00:35:47.735
- we can be led by the spirit and

1010
00:35:47.735 --> 00:35:49.414
- have this all come together. And like I

1011
00:35:49.414 --> 00:35:50.775
- said, it doesn't always, so I mean, a

1012
00:35:50.775 --> 00:35:52.614
- few of them but just to the point

1013
00:35:52.614 --> 00:35:55.175
- that, Adrian made, I think it's more on

1014
00:35:55.175 --> 00:35:57.894
- the part of the YSA not responding. I

1015
00:35:57.894 --> 00:35:59.969
- don't think we've had any mentors who agreed

1016
00:35:59.969 --> 00:36:02.210
- to mentor and did nothing. Yeah. But if

1017
00:36:02.210 --> 00:36:03.730
- you reach out two or three times, you

1018
00:36:03.730 --> 00:36:06.289
- get nothing back, it's, you know, how how

1019
00:36:06.289 --> 00:36:07.730
- much more are you gonna do? And we've

1020
00:36:07.730 --> 00:36:09.090
- had a few that just sort of fizzled

1021
00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:10.869
- that way. Yeah. So, oftentimes,

1022
00:36:11.170 --> 00:36:13.409
- if when they don't work, kinda just fizzles

1023
00:36:13.409 --> 00:36:16.114
- out, there's communication with the mentor. You may

1024
00:36:16.114 --> 00:36:18.114
- say, well, we could use your help elsewhere

1025
00:36:18.114 --> 00:36:18.614
- or

1026
00:36:18.914 --> 00:36:20.914
- let's thanks, but we tried, you know, we'll

1027
00:36:20.914 --> 00:36:22.434
- we'll go back to the drawing board type

1028
00:36:22.434 --> 00:36:23.255
- of thing. Exactly.

1029
00:36:23.554 --> 00:36:25.574
- Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. So

1030
00:36:25.969 --> 00:36:27.650
- so there and and there's not like this

1031
00:36:27.730 --> 00:36:29.969
- there's not like a solid formula. It's a

1032
00:36:29.969 --> 00:36:31.889
- lot of this let's try this. K. That

1033
00:36:31.889 --> 00:36:33.969
- didn't work. But then but you said there's

1034
00:36:33.969 --> 00:36:35.569
- a third or or greater that is like,

1035
00:36:35.569 --> 00:36:37.909
- wow. This was cool to see and witness

1036
00:36:38.210 --> 00:36:40.244
- that this connection was made. Right? Is there,

1037
00:36:40.244 --> 00:36:42.404
- like, a do you put any expectations as

1038
00:36:42.404 --> 00:36:44.484
- far as, like, a sunset to this, you

1039
00:36:44.484 --> 00:36:47.045
- know, this official mentorship thing or just, like,

1040
00:36:47.045 --> 00:36:48.964
- when it feels like it's done, it's done?

1041
00:36:48.964 --> 00:36:51.364
- Or I think it depends a little bit

1042
00:36:51.364 --> 00:36:54.824
- on the case, like sister Adrian was saying.

1043
00:36:54.989 --> 00:36:56.829
- It may be very specific around getting ready

1044
00:36:56.829 --> 00:36:59.170
- for a test or getting your driver's license.

1045
00:36:59.630 --> 00:37:02.269
- Yeah. But even in those cases, there are

1046
00:37:02.269 --> 00:37:04.530
- times when those relationships just naturally

1047
00:37:04.909 --> 00:37:06.989
- take on a life of their own. And

1048
00:37:06.989 --> 00:37:08.989
- I I mean, to me, in the very

1049
00:37:08.989 --> 00:37:09.889
- best cases,

1050
00:37:10.385 --> 00:37:12.005
- these are going to be eternal

1051
00:37:12.385 --> 00:37:12.885
- relationships.

1052
00:37:13.505 --> 00:37:15.184
- May I I last you know, a couple

1053
00:37:15.184 --> 00:37:16.784
- weeks ago, we had father say. I saw

1054
00:37:16.784 --> 00:37:19.184
- one of our our mentees bring a father's

1055
00:37:19.184 --> 00:37:20.405
- day gift to their mentor

1056
00:37:20.864 --> 00:37:23.025
- because he views that man as his father.

1057
00:37:23.025 --> 00:37:24.964
- Yeah. So many of our y say

1058
00:37:25.425 --> 00:37:28.840
- don't have two parents or some don't even

1059
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.159
- have one parent that's involved in their life.

1060
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:31.659
- So

1061
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:32.699
- imagine

1062
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.159
- what it would be like for you to

1063
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.159
- be alone and then all of a sudden

1064
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.320
- have an old person interested in your life

1065
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.054
- and wanting to be there for you and

1066
00:37:41.135 --> 00:37:43.375
- and helping you. You know, they they just

1067
00:37:43.534 --> 00:37:45.295
- a lot of them have no direction because

1068
00:37:45.295 --> 00:37:46.114
- they just don't

1069
00:37:46.414 --> 00:37:48.894
- have no one's taught them. Okay. What do

1070
00:37:48.894 --> 00:37:50.974
- I do next? Alright. I can go to

1071
00:37:50.974 --> 00:37:51.474
- college.

1072
00:37:51.855 --> 00:37:54.034
- Oh, I should get a driver's license.

1073
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.139
- Oh, I should get a job that actually

1074
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:58.340
- pays me

1075
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.059
- something that I can live on. You know,

1076
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:02.980
- it's kind of unbelievable

1077
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:04.340
- sometimes how

1078
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:05.539
- lost

1079
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.204
- some of our YSA are. And I can

1080
00:38:08.204 --> 00:38:09.345
- only imagine that's

1081
00:38:09.805 --> 00:38:10.305
- worldwide.

1082
00:38:11.325 --> 00:38:12.864
- So I think

1083
00:38:13.325 --> 00:38:14.704
- this idea of

1084
00:38:15.164 --> 00:38:15.664
- asking

1085
00:38:15.965 --> 00:38:17.825
- people in the state to be mentors,

1086
00:38:18.445 --> 00:38:20.765
- and I hate even saying mentor because I

1087
00:38:20.765 --> 00:38:23.349
- really honestly believe it's so much more than

1088
00:38:23.349 --> 00:38:24.730
- that. It's really

1089
00:38:25.109 --> 00:38:28.170
- taking someone in, especially these that don't have

1090
00:38:28.309 --> 00:38:29.609
- this parental involvement,

1091
00:38:30.389 --> 00:38:33.369
- becoming a parent to them. It really is.

1092
00:38:33.829 --> 00:38:36.309
- And it's just such a need around the

1093
00:38:36.309 --> 00:38:38.414
- world. And we have people who are not

1094
00:38:38.414 --> 00:38:40.914
- members of our church that attend that we've

1095
00:38:41.135 --> 00:38:42.755
- used this program for.

1096
00:38:43.775 --> 00:38:45.614
- And, gosh, we can change the world. We

1097
00:38:45.614 --> 00:38:47.135
- really can. Yeah. You know, we can give

1098
00:38:47.135 --> 00:38:48.355
- people who have nothing,

1099
00:38:48.974 --> 00:38:49.474
- no

1100
00:38:49.934 --> 00:38:51.235
- support of any kind

1101
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.400
- and give them a little taste of that

1102
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.159
- for a while. Yeah. I'm just thinking my

1103
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.719
- own personal, like, you know, life and where

1104
00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.559
- I take for granted the sort of that

1105
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:03.179
- experience of having a stable parents. Every Sunday,

1106
00:39:03.575 --> 00:39:05.015
- I can have a home to go to.

1107
00:39:05.015 --> 00:39:07.015
- My mom's cooking a great meal. It's there.

1108
00:39:07.015 --> 00:39:09.815
- Right? And, obviously, that's a maybe more superficial

1109
00:39:09.815 --> 00:39:12.535
- thing, but sometimes I'm not as as aware

1110
00:39:12.535 --> 00:39:14.055
- of that support that I get from them.

1111
00:39:14.055 --> 00:39:16.659
- And so Mhmm. Someone comes into a a

1112
00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:17.559
- YSA branch

1113
00:39:17.940 --> 00:39:19.719
- and sees, oh, look. Like, here's

1114
00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:21.780
- a a stable figure that I can set

1115
00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:23.380
- an appointment with and get some advice, and

1116
00:39:23.380 --> 00:39:25.940
- then Yeah. That stable figure's overwhelmed. Right? And

1117
00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:29.320
- that's so stable anymore. But Basic life skills,

1118
00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:31.219
- really. Yeah. And so to really figure out

1119
00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:32.675
- a way to really plug those in is

1120
00:39:32.835 --> 00:39:34.994
- that's awesome. Really good. And I think there's

1121
00:39:34.994 --> 00:39:35.555
- a real

1122
00:39:35.954 --> 00:39:37.414
- we're seeing so many

1123
00:39:38.034 --> 00:39:39.255
- converts because

1124
00:39:39.795 --> 00:39:42.114
- they're lacking this and they find our church

1125
00:39:42.114 --> 00:39:43.574
- and they're like, woah.

1126
00:39:43.875 --> 00:39:46.514
- Wow. Yeah. This community that's here, the support

1127
00:39:46.514 --> 00:39:49.550
- that's here, it's really amazing. And it's so

1128
00:39:49.550 --> 00:39:50.050
- fun

1129
00:39:50.510 --> 00:39:51.170
- to watch

1130
00:39:51.550 --> 00:39:52.849
- someone join the church

1131
00:39:53.390 --> 00:39:54.849
- and how they blossom.

1132
00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:58.449
- Yeah. Yeah. YSA age. You know, it's amazing.

1133
00:39:59.150 --> 00:40:01.010
- Has this created any, like, additional

1134
00:40:01.405 --> 00:40:03.085
- structure or callings? Like, do you have a

1135
00:40:03.085 --> 00:40:05.485
- a mentor council, or are you able to

1136
00:40:05.485 --> 00:40:07.885
- facilitate all this with the branch council and

1137
00:40:07.885 --> 00:40:09.805
- those callings that are already there? We've not

1138
00:40:09.805 --> 00:40:12.045
- created any any new callings as a result

1139
00:40:12.045 --> 00:40:13.565
- of this. And and as I said, we

1140
00:40:13.565 --> 00:40:16.610
- still do ministering through the Yeah. Society and

1141
00:40:16.610 --> 00:40:17.430
- the elders' quorum.

1142
00:40:17.809 --> 00:40:19.890
- We have a few meetings of our branch

1143
00:40:19.890 --> 00:40:21.969
- council and branch presidency that are devoted to

1144
00:40:21.969 --> 00:40:22.469
- this,

1145
00:40:22.769 --> 00:40:25.170
- but we haven't created anything, but a new

1146
00:40:25.170 --> 00:40:26.950
- structure. Yeah. Interesting.

1147
00:40:27.375 --> 00:40:28.034
- Is there

1148
00:40:28.335 --> 00:40:29.614
- you know, you mentioned just sort of this

1149
00:40:29.614 --> 00:40:31.695
- emphasis that, obviously, you're not trying to offload

1150
00:40:31.695 --> 00:40:31.934
- your

1151
00:40:32.735 --> 00:40:34.574
- the role and the keys you have with,

1152
00:40:34.574 --> 00:40:36.414
- you know, repentance and things like that. Are

1153
00:40:36.414 --> 00:40:38.494
- there moments where, you know, you're working with

1154
00:40:38.494 --> 00:40:41.190
- somebody, but whether they're struggling with an addiction

1155
00:40:41.329 --> 00:40:43.410
- or whatever it is that you do plug

1156
00:40:43.410 --> 00:40:44.530
- in a mentor there to

1157
00:40:44.930 --> 00:40:47.489
- whether it's somebody who's gone through recovery or

1158
00:40:47.489 --> 00:40:49.410
- things like that? I don't know. Yeah. We're

1159
00:40:49.410 --> 00:40:51.809
- big fans of the healing through the savior

1160
00:40:51.809 --> 00:40:54.070
- program that we called addiction recovery.

1161
00:40:54.554 --> 00:40:56.875
- And so we one of the things that

1162
00:40:56.875 --> 00:40:58.474
- through our stake we were able to do

1163
00:40:58.474 --> 00:41:01.114
- is create a Healing Through the Savior group

1164
00:41:01.114 --> 00:41:03.514
- just for the Hemby branch, and it meets

1165
00:41:03.514 --> 00:41:05.454
- on Thursday nights after institute.

1166
00:41:05.914 --> 00:41:06.655
- And so

1167
00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:08.989
- if it's addiction, that's typically where I will

1168
00:41:08.989 --> 00:41:12.030
- refer them. It's a an empty nest couple.

1169
00:41:12.030 --> 00:41:13.969
- They're called actually as missionaries

1170
00:41:14.750 --> 00:41:17.150
- to teach and lead that group. It really

1171
00:41:17.150 --> 00:41:19.034
- will come down to the individual, though. If,

1172
00:41:19.194 --> 00:41:21.514
- you know, as as Adrian mentioned, this is

1173
00:41:21.514 --> 00:41:23.295
- a group that tends to be very transparent

1174
00:41:23.355 --> 00:41:25.514
- and authentic. And so if they're comfortable, I

1175
00:41:25.514 --> 00:41:27.534
- I would ask, are you comfortable talking about

1176
00:41:27.594 --> 00:41:29.614
- your addiction with someone else?

1177
00:41:30.074 --> 00:41:31.835
- And maybe at that point, they've already got

1178
00:41:31.835 --> 00:41:33.389
- a mentor. You know? And it's just like,

1179
00:41:33.549 --> 00:41:34.909
- I know you've been meeting, you know, with

1180
00:41:34.909 --> 00:41:36.849
- brother Smith a couple of times a week.

1181
00:41:36.909 --> 00:41:39.230
- You know? Would you be comfortable discussing with

1182
00:41:39.230 --> 00:41:41.469
- him this problem and get some advice from

1183
00:41:41.469 --> 00:41:43.069
- him? Maybe he can help you with some

1184
00:41:43.069 --> 00:41:43.569
- accountability.

1185
00:41:44.029 --> 00:41:45.489
- You could check-in with him regularly.

1186
00:41:45.934 --> 00:41:47.875
- But that would only be done with the

1187
00:41:48.014 --> 00:41:48.514
- express

1188
00:41:49.054 --> 00:41:51.855
- permission from the individual. Right. Yeah. That's really

1189
00:41:51.855 --> 00:41:52.355
- good.

1190
00:41:52.894 --> 00:41:54.514
- Anything else about

1191
00:41:55.135 --> 00:41:56.974
- the typical questions you get that that we

1192
00:41:56.974 --> 00:41:59.750
- haven't covered? Or I don't think so. Okay.

1193
00:41:59.750 --> 00:42:01.130
- Well, let me ask you this.

1194
00:42:01.429 --> 00:42:03.190
- It sounds like you got a very supportive

1195
00:42:03.190 --> 00:42:05.670
- stake presidency that Wonderful. It gives you a

1196
00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:07.670
- lot of a lot of slack to try

1197
00:42:07.670 --> 00:42:09.510
- some things. Right? Yeah. And that man, that

1198
00:42:09.510 --> 00:42:10.869
- is that goes a long way because I'm

1199
00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:12.525
- sure there's people listening being like,

1200
00:42:13.085 --> 00:42:15.344
- my stake president would never even

1201
00:42:16.125 --> 00:42:18.364
- consider the idea. You know? And, you know,

1202
00:42:18.364 --> 00:42:20.525
- that's tough and, you know, people are different

1203
00:42:20.525 --> 00:42:22.864
- and leadership is different, things like that. But

1204
00:42:23.164 --> 00:42:26.119
- anything as far as, like, getting pushback, even

1205
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:27.880
- outside the mentor program, like, some of these

1206
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.039
- other ideas, like, how do you navigate that,

1207
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.800
- or have you just been blessed with some

1208
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:33.180
- good supportive leaders?

1209
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.599
- I I honestly do not think we've ever

1210
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.539
- asked for anything completely unreasonable.

1211
00:42:39.724 --> 00:42:42.364
- And we've never, you know, we've never had

1212
00:42:42.364 --> 00:42:44.045
- had a situation where we've been said, no.

1213
00:42:44.045 --> 00:42:46.045
- You can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. We do

1214
00:42:46.045 --> 00:42:47.585
- have a a remarkable

1215
00:42:48.364 --> 00:42:49.485
- stake president, and,

1216
00:42:50.284 --> 00:42:52.065
- he loves the YSA dearly.

1217
00:42:52.619 --> 00:42:54.960
- And so I think they know he loves

1218
00:42:55.019 --> 00:42:55.519
- them,

1219
00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:58.059
- and he he has been supportive of everything

1220
00:42:58.059 --> 00:43:00.779
- we've wanted to try. Yeah. And, are you

1221
00:43:00.779 --> 00:43:02.219
- gonna say something, Mary? I was gonna say

1222
00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:04.859
- something. I actually listened to your podcast last

1223
00:43:04.859 --> 00:43:07.574
- week and, or from a couple weeks ago,

1224
00:43:07.894 --> 00:43:10.934
- And your guest said he had talked to

1225
00:43:10.934 --> 00:43:11.835
- elder Holland

1226
00:43:12.295 --> 00:43:12.795
- about,

1227
00:43:13.414 --> 00:43:15.014
- Hey, I want to have someone read this

1228
00:43:15.014 --> 00:43:15.514
- book,

1229
00:43:15.974 --> 00:43:17.494
- but you know, I'm not supposed to have

1230
00:43:17.494 --> 00:43:19.014
- him read anything. And he said, well, you

1231
00:43:19.014 --> 00:43:21.014
- have the keys, right? You have to, you

1232
00:43:21.014 --> 00:43:22.234
- have to turn them.

1233
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:23.339
- And I think,

1234
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:24.859
- you know,

1235
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:27.000
- maybe if you have a stake president, that's

1236
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:27.819
- more that

1237
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:28.699
- that

1238
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:30.839
- buy the book. You know, maybe you need

1239
00:43:30.839 --> 00:43:32.859
- to pull up that elder home. Yeah. Yeah.

1240
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.659
- Well, that's the thing. Because sometimes we forget,

1241
00:43:35.825 --> 00:43:37.744
- no, we were we were literally given keys.

1242
00:43:37.744 --> 00:43:39.425
- Right? There were we weren't just given a

1243
00:43:39.425 --> 00:43:41.345
- handbook. We were given keys and Right. There's

1244
00:43:41.345 --> 00:43:42.785
- a purpose for that. You know, if they

1245
00:43:42.785 --> 00:43:45.425
- just want us to follow a structured, solid

1246
00:43:45.425 --> 00:43:45.925
- program,

1247
00:43:46.224 --> 00:43:47.345
- they would just give it to us and

1248
00:43:47.345 --> 00:43:50.409
- say, don't don't veer, you know. So really

1249
00:43:50.409 --> 00:43:53.309
- good. Has this expanded as far as other

1250
00:43:53.369 --> 00:43:56.030
- stakes and YSA branches are trying it? Or

1251
00:43:56.250 --> 00:43:58.730
- or the secret is the secret's out now,

1252
00:43:58.730 --> 00:44:00.170
- we'll see. I think you have an exclusive

1253
00:44:00.170 --> 00:44:00.989
- here. Okay.

1254
00:44:01.449 --> 00:44:01.949
- Good.

1255
00:44:03.449 --> 00:44:06.164
- That's awesome. Cool. I mean, would you encourage

1256
00:44:06.164 --> 00:44:07.765
- others I it sounds like you'd encourage others

1257
00:44:07.765 --> 00:44:10.085
- just consider or figure out what and, obviously,

1258
00:44:10.085 --> 00:44:11.845
- it may look different in other areas or

1259
00:44:12.565 --> 00:44:14.164
- and, again, I know that's not your prerogative

1260
00:44:14.164 --> 00:44:16.565
- delight. Encourage broadly, but we're just sharing ideas

1261
00:44:16.565 --> 00:44:19.079
- here. So And it's working for us. So

1262
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.900
- Yeah. That's cool. Awesome. Yeah. I think

1263
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:23.639
- I think one of the things that's nice

1264
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:23.799
- about

1265
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:25.719
- I don't know if we should call us

1266
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.099
- a program or what, but

1267
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.585
- the way we've got about mentoring is there

1268
00:44:30.585 --> 00:44:32.664
- haven't been a lot of rules. And so,

1269
00:44:32.664 --> 00:44:35.065
- you know, it can be an incredibly strong,

1270
00:44:35.065 --> 00:44:35.565
- talented,

1271
00:44:36.025 --> 00:44:38.045
- highly employed, but new member

1272
00:44:38.344 --> 00:44:40.905
- who just needs to see what does a

1273
00:44:40.905 --> 00:44:43.320
- Melchizedek Priesthood holder look like and do. And

1274
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.099
- that was the one assignment that was made.

1275
00:44:45.160 --> 00:44:46.840
- I just want you to teach this amazing

1276
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.320
- guy. He's probably gonna be a prophet someday,

1277
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.320
- but, you know, just show him what a

1278
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.400
- Melchizedek Priesthood holder does. It can be that

1279
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.719
- simple. Yeah. Or someone else, it could be

1280
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:57.480
- really dramatic. Like, we need to get this

1281
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.034
- person home. They're living in their car. Mhmm.

1282
00:45:00.034 --> 00:45:01.154
- You know, what are we gonna do about

1283
00:45:01.154 --> 00:45:03.074
- that? And it might be something, you know,

1284
00:45:03.074 --> 00:45:05.795
- medical. It might be someone struggling with either

1285
00:45:05.795 --> 00:45:07.554
- a physical or mental health problem, and they

1286
00:45:07.554 --> 00:45:09.954
- need someone there who's maybe helped out their

1287
00:45:09.954 --> 00:45:12.454
- own child through that very same type problem

1288
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.340
- and can give them daily support if needed.

1289
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.420
- So I think the flexibility of it is

1290
00:45:17.720 --> 00:45:19.559
- really important. And at the end of the

1291
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:20.059
- day,

1292
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.680
- all we're trying to do is help these

1293
00:45:22.680 --> 00:45:24.914
- people feel God's love for them.

1294
00:45:26.994 --> 00:45:29.735
- Feel that when you're hungry, when you're unemployed,

1295
00:45:30.035 --> 00:45:31.015
- when you're sick.

1296
00:45:31.715 --> 00:45:34.594
- And so Or feeling like nobody loves you.

1297
00:45:34.594 --> 00:45:37.255
- Yeah. Right? That's And you're alone. Yeah. Yeah.

1298
00:45:37.315 --> 00:45:38.375
- So we just feel

1299
00:45:38.780 --> 00:45:41.420
- so incredibly blessed that for five years, we've

1300
00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:43.420
- got to for a while, it was you

1301
00:45:43.420 --> 00:45:45.099
- know, we were trying to do all of

1302
00:45:45.099 --> 00:45:47.339
- it, and we still do mentor. I mean,

1303
00:45:47.339 --> 00:45:49.659
- we're still, you know, probably five to 10

1304
00:45:49.659 --> 00:45:52.304
- people each that we are personally working with

1305
00:45:52.304 --> 00:45:54.144
- at that level. We just couldn't do it

1306
00:45:54.144 --> 00:45:56.385
- for thirty or or more. It is the

1307
00:45:56.385 --> 00:45:58.704
- greatest work in the world to see these

1308
00:45:58.704 --> 00:45:59.204
- people

1309
00:45:59.585 --> 00:46:02.224
- develop testimonies of Jesus Christ, to see these

1310
00:46:02.224 --> 00:46:02.724
- people

1311
00:46:03.105 --> 00:46:04.784
- access the power of the atonement in their

1312
00:46:04.784 --> 00:46:06.679
- lives, and to play a tiny role in

1313
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.760
- it yourself, but mostly just to be the

1314
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:09.659
- witness of it,

1315
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.679
- there's nothing better. Yeah. Well, put me on

1316
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:14.400
- the list. Okay? If there's anybody who needs

1317
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.440
- to start a podcast I can say, okay.

1318
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.440
- I've got one. So we can do Zoom

1319
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.054
- or something. You know? We actually do have

1320
00:46:20.054 --> 00:46:22.255
- several that want you. Yeah. Seriously, I'd love

1321
00:46:22.255 --> 00:46:24.214
- to help and, because and that's the other

1322
00:46:24.214 --> 00:46:25.734
- thing. I'm just in the day we live

1323
00:46:25.734 --> 00:46:28.054
- in. There's maybe all sorts of opportunity there

1324
00:46:28.054 --> 00:46:29.655
- that as Larry is saying, so we can

1325
00:46:29.655 --> 00:46:30.855
- help each other out a little bit better.

1326
00:46:30.855 --> 00:46:32.534
- And I know Pathway's got all sorts of

1327
00:46:32.534 --> 00:46:34.230
- things they do and but, yeah, I mean,

1328
00:46:34.230 --> 00:46:36.789
- this that's Zion. Right? That's it feels like

1329
00:46:36.789 --> 00:46:39.829
- Zion. I mean, connections. Right? Help everybody. Right?

1330
00:46:39.829 --> 00:46:41.369
- Yeah. That's great.

1331
00:46:41.750 --> 00:46:43.449
- Any other point principle story?

1332
00:46:43.909 --> 00:46:46.170
- Crazy idea that you're doing? Or,

1333
00:46:46.734 --> 00:46:48.574
- and we got lots of stories, but yeah,

1334
00:46:48.574 --> 00:46:50.014
- I think another thing that we do a

1335
00:46:50.014 --> 00:46:52.195
- lot of is we try to back off,

1336
00:46:52.574 --> 00:46:54.335
- you know, we try to just really let

1337
00:46:54.335 --> 00:46:56.034
- the YSA do their thing.

1338
00:46:57.214 --> 00:46:58.835
- And that's really hard sometimes,

1339
00:46:59.614 --> 00:47:01.679
- you know, and we've had

1340
00:47:02.140 --> 00:47:04.140
- old people come and be part of the

1341
00:47:04.140 --> 00:47:06.460
- ward and they freak out. You know, I

1342
00:47:06.460 --> 00:47:09.199
- was just in relief society. You wouldn't believe

1343
00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:11.119
- what someone just said or

1344
00:47:11.980 --> 00:47:14.619
- someone says testimony today, you know, and it,

1345
00:47:14.619 --> 00:47:16.815
- like I said, it, for those of us

1346
00:47:16.815 --> 00:47:20.255
- old people that we don't see this, it

1347
00:47:20.255 --> 00:47:21.554
- is really hard, but

1348
00:47:21.934 --> 00:47:24.114
- we really we try to teach them no.

1349
00:47:24.175 --> 00:47:25.554
- You know what? If something

1350
00:47:26.014 --> 00:47:27.795
- is raised in a class

1351
00:47:28.569 --> 00:47:31.130
- the YSA are capable and they handle and

1352
00:47:31.130 --> 00:47:33.769
- they do, you know? And when I'm thinking

1353
00:47:33.769 --> 00:47:35.690
- of one case in particular, when we had

1354
00:47:35.690 --> 00:47:38.250
- some senior missionaries come visit and they were

1355
00:47:38.250 --> 00:47:39.869
- very upset about, an investigator

1356
00:47:40.329 --> 00:47:42.585
- said something in class. And I was in

1357
00:47:42.585 --> 00:47:43.085
- there,

1358
00:47:43.465 --> 00:47:44.525
- and the

1359
00:47:45.224 --> 00:47:47.164
- Relief Society sisters were

1360
00:47:47.625 --> 00:47:48.364
- so calm

1361
00:47:48.744 --> 00:47:51.324
- and addressed it and corrected

1362
00:47:51.625 --> 00:47:53.784
- the young lady for something that she was

1363
00:47:53.784 --> 00:47:55.324
- saying we believed. Right?

1364
00:47:55.900 --> 00:47:57.340
- And it was done and it was over

1365
00:47:57.340 --> 00:47:59.420
- and the, and the discussion just went on.

1366
00:47:59.420 --> 00:47:59.920
- But

1367
00:48:00.219 --> 00:48:02.059
- I think for us old people, it's really

1368
00:48:02.059 --> 00:48:04.639
- hard to step away sometimes and just

1369
00:48:05.019 --> 00:48:07.519
- see that these guys are capable and, and

1370
00:48:07.659 --> 00:48:09.099
- we've had that in just a lot of

1371
00:48:09.099 --> 00:48:11.735
- different scenarios where the old people wanna step

1372
00:48:11.735 --> 00:48:13.355
- in and you're like, okay. Breaks.

1373
00:48:13.655 --> 00:48:15.575
- And we keep saying old people because that's

1374
00:48:15.575 --> 00:48:17.494
- how we differentiate. Yeah. I love it. It's

1375
00:48:17.494 --> 00:48:19.195
- not meant to say that everybody

1376
00:48:19.974 --> 00:48:21.335
- looks old or acts old even though I

1377
00:48:21.414 --> 00:48:23.510
- yeah. Yeah. I do. But, it's very self

1378
00:48:23.510 --> 00:48:25.510
- deprecating. It feels like, but But it is

1379
00:48:25.510 --> 00:48:27.109
- to really make sure we're not saying the

1380
00:48:27.590 --> 00:48:29.369
- as soon as we are saying the adults,

1381
00:48:29.670 --> 00:48:32.150
- we're implying they're not. Yeah. Yeah. And I

1382
00:48:32.150 --> 00:48:34.070
- love that. I build on what Adrian said.

1383
00:48:34.070 --> 00:48:36.494
- We we really believe that the best thing

1384
00:48:36.494 --> 00:48:38.514
- we can do is invite a YSA

1385
00:48:38.974 --> 00:48:40.114
- to help another YSA.

1386
00:48:40.654 --> 00:48:42.434
- But then there's two lives that get blessed.

1387
00:48:42.734 --> 00:48:44.574
- And so, you know, while we talked a

1388
00:48:44.574 --> 00:48:45.635
- ton about mentoring,

1389
00:48:46.094 --> 00:48:47.474
- there's even more happening

1390
00:48:47.934 --> 00:48:49.394
- amongst the YSA themselves.

1391
00:48:49.969 --> 00:48:51.569
- The way they love each other, care for

1392
00:48:51.569 --> 00:48:53.730
- each other, give give each other rides, make

1393
00:48:53.730 --> 00:48:54.789
- sure they're all included.

1394
00:48:55.170 --> 00:48:56.609
- All those things we talked about at the

1395
00:48:56.609 --> 00:48:57.109
- beginning

1396
00:48:57.409 --> 00:48:59.489
- created this culture where everybody wants to be

1397
00:48:59.489 --> 00:49:01.569
- there. But now because everybody wants to be

1398
00:49:01.569 --> 00:49:04.414
- there, we have this great diversity and lots

1399
00:49:04.414 --> 00:49:06.734
- of needs. That's when we reached out to

1400
00:49:06.734 --> 00:49:09.295
- the stake for some additional support from one

1401
00:49:09.295 --> 00:49:11.875
- on one, but the branch is run by

1402
00:49:12.014 --> 00:49:12.675
- the YSA.

1403
00:49:13.054 --> 00:49:14.994
- As I said, we now have both counselors

1404
00:49:15.454 --> 00:49:17.394
- full you know, the branch presidency is now

1405
00:49:17.699 --> 00:49:20.179
- entirely comprised of young young people except one

1406
00:49:20.179 --> 00:49:21.960
- old one old guy, which is me.

1407
00:49:22.579 --> 00:49:25.239
- Love it. And also I think the, missionaries

1408
00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:27.639
- were really key and are

1409
00:49:28.339 --> 00:49:28.839
- so

1410
00:49:29.219 --> 00:49:31.639
- having them be able to come to

1411
00:49:32.204 --> 00:49:32.704
- FHE

1412
00:49:33.164 --> 00:49:35.585
- or Institute and bring their

1413
00:49:35.965 --> 00:49:38.844
- investigators with them is really important. And and

1414
00:49:38.844 --> 00:49:41.565
- I know mission presidents are different, so sometimes

1415
00:49:41.565 --> 00:49:44.285
- that's allowed and sometimes it's not. But, boy,

1416
00:49:44.285 --> 00:49:46.684
- that seems to have been vital at times

1417
00:49:46.684 --> 00:49:47.184
- when

1418
00:49:47.630 --> 00:49:49.670
- our branch has really been on fire Yeah.

1419
00:49:49.789 --> 00:49:52.030
- With missionary work, that they were at every

1420
00:49:52.030 --> 00:49:53.489
- activity and everything.

1421
00:49:54.110 --> 00:49:56.210
- I mean, then other times they're not. And

1422
00:49:56.510 --> 00:49:59.230
- I definitely notice a difference, you know, with

1423
00:49:59.230 --> 00:49:59.710
- that.

1424
00:50:00.190 --> 00:50:01.010
- So I think

1425
00:50:01.585 --> 00:50:03.744
- missionary work is is a big part of

1426
00:50:03.744 --> 00:50:06.065
- the branch as well. That's cool. Well, this

1427
00:50:06.065 --> 00:50:08.385
- is fantastic. I've really enjoyed just learning, and

1428
00:50:08.385 --> 00:50:11.025
- it's so inspiring. And I'm excited to share

1429
00:50:11.025 --> 00:50:12.644
- this with with the audience.

1430
00:50:13.105 --> 00:50:15.000
- And, maybe I need a name coming to

1431
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.599
- Charlotte here in a few months. So Come

1432
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:18.360
- visit. We got a place to visit. Let's

1433
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:19.420
- stay in touch, and

1434
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:21.239
- we'll get a few wanna say together. And

1435
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:22.679
- Yeah. If you're interested in what you do

1436
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.760
- Yeah. Sure. Have a short session. They they

1437
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.920
- would love that. Cool. That's awesome. Well, last

1438
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:28.795
- question I have for you too. And, Adrian,

1439
00:50:28.795 --> 00:50:30.554
- maybe we'll start with you. But as you

1440
00:50:30.554 --> 00:50:31.054
- reflect

1441
00:50:31.434 --> 00:50:33.295
- in your time as a leader,

1442
00:50:33.594 --> 00:50:35.675
- how has being a leader helped you become

1443
00:50:35.675 --> 00:50:37.534
- a better follower of Jesus Christ?

1444
00:50:38.235 --> 00:50:39.375
- That's a good question.

1445
00:50:40.074 --> 00:50:40.574
- Gosh,

1446
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.799
- This experience has just been so powerful in

1447
00:50:43.799 --> 00:50:44.539
- my life.

1448
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.579
- I've learned so much from them. How

1449
00:50:48.359 --> 00:50:50.139
- one, how much the gospel

1450
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.319
- really does work. You know? I've been a

1451
00:50:53.319 --> 00:50:55.480
- member my whole life, and so I haven't

1452
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:56.219
- had that

1453
00:50:56.945 --> 00:50:59.105
- change in my life. You know, like, I

1454
00:50:59.105 --> 00:51:00.885
- see someone who embraces

1455
00:51:01.505 --> 00:51:04.465
- the gospel, and it changes every aspect of

1456
00:51:04.465 --> 00:51:06.164
- their life and raises them

1457
00:51:06.465 --> 00:51:08.385
- in ways that they could not have done

1458
00:51:08.385 --> 00:51:10.485
- themselves. So my testimony is

1459
00:51:10.980 --> 00:51:14.599
- just the church, church programs and the gospel

1460
00:51:14.980 --> 00:51:15.480
- has,

1461
00:51:16.019 --> 00:51:17.380
- you know, it's just not something I've ever

1462
00:51:17.380 --> 00:51:19.159
- thought of, I guess. And so my testimony

1463
00:51:19.219 --> 00:51:21.559
- has just skyrocketed in that,

1464
00:51:21.860 --> 00:51:23.800
- how that raises people from,

1465
00:51:24.340 --> 00:51:25.719
- you know, poverty.

1466
00:51:26.324 --> 00:51:27.464
- Helps them mentally

1467
00:51:28.005 --> 00:51:30.585
- and helps them spiritually, of course,

1468
00:51:30.885 --> 00:51:33.204
- but just how it helps them in a

1469
00:51:33.204 --> 00:51:35.224
- worldly sense. So that

1470
00:51:35.684 --> 00:51:36.184
- testimony

1471
00:51:36.565 --> 00:51:38.664
- of the power of the savior's

1472
00:51:39.125 --> 00:51:40.184
- gospel is

1473
00:51:40.569 --> 00:51:41.789
- just grown exponentially.

1474
00:51:43.049 --> 00:51:43.789
- My testimony

1475
00:51:44.329 --> 00:51:46.190
- of the power of his atonement

1476
00:51:46.969 --> 00:51:49.389
- in changing lives, it is,

1477
00:51:49.849 --> 00:51:50.589
- has grown.

1478
00:51:51.049 --> 00:51:52.190
- I feel so blessed

1479
00:51:52.925 --> 00:51:56.204
- to have this opportunity to serve at this

1480
00:51:56.204 --> 00:51:57.965
- time in my life where I lost my

1481
00:51:57.965 --> 00:51:58.465
- son,

1482
00:51:59.005 --> 00:52:00.144
- which was so devastating.

1483
00:52:00.925 --> 00:52:02.304
- But to feel the comfort

1484
00:52:02.764 --> 00:52:03.264
- of

1485
00:52:03.804 --> 00:52:06.929
- the Savior's Atonement, going through that and sharing

1486
00:52:06.929 --> 00:52:09.269
- that with the YSA and having them

1487
00:52:09.730 --> 00:52:10.710
- comfort me.

1488
00:52:11.090 --> 00:52:11.409
- And,

1489
00:52:12.289 --> 00:52:14.449
- I will treasure that forever. It changed my

1490
00:52:14.449 --> 00:52:17.329
- life, it really did, and, has blessed my

1491
00:52:17.329 --> 00:52:17.829
- life.

1492
00:52:18.289 --> 00:52:18.789
- And

1493
00:52:19.409 --> 00:52:20.789
- my love for the Savior

1494
00:52:21.305 --> 00:52:22.684
- and his work has

1495
00:52:22.985 --> 00:52:24.125
- again, grown exponentially

1496
00:52:24.425 --> 00:52:27.625
- in this time period. And I feel closer

1497
00:52:27.625 --> 00:52:30.045
- to him because my service in the branch.

1498
00:52:30.345 --> 00:52:31.945
- Love it. Mark, what about you? How's being

1499
00:52:31.945 --> 00:52:34.105
- a leader helps you become a better follower

1500
00:52:34.105 --> 00:52:37.059
- of Jesus Christ? I think almost everything we've

1501
00:52:37.059 --> 00:52:38.900
- talked about today, whether it was the way

1502
00:52:38.900 --> 00:52:39.559
- the culture

1503
00:52:40.019 --> 00:52:40.519
- was

1504
00:52:41.059 --> 00:52:43.320
- decided upon and then how it was deployed

1505
00:52:43.940 --> 00:52:46.199
- all the way through to this mentorship program,

1506
00:52:46.579 --> 00:52:49.184
- a result of counseling together. None of it

1507
00:52:49.265 --> 00:52:50.625
- came from me. None of it came from

1508
00:52:50.625 --> 00:52:51.684
- Adrian. It came

1509
00:52:52.065 --> 00:52:54.305
- from counseling with the YSA, counseling with the

1510
00:52:54.305 --> 00:52:55.045
- state president.

1511
00:52:55.744 --> 00:52:58.485
- And as we do that, the spirit then

1512
00:52:58.704 --> 00:52:59.204
- is

1513
00:52:59.505 --> 00:53:02.065
- what guides, and we are all following the

1514
00:53:02.065 --> 00:53:02.565
- spirit.

1515
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.119
- And so I I think as I've had

1516
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:07.619
- this opportunity to be a servant leader,

1517
00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:09.780
- the best part has been this

1518
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:10.900
- these revelatory

1519
00:53:11.200 --> 00:53:11.700
- experiences

1520
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:13.059
- that we had together.

1521
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:14.500
- And we had

1522
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.320
- part of an idea here and a part

1523
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.234
- of an idea there, and the spirit knits

1524
00:53:18.234 --> 00:53:20.394
- it together into an idea worth trying, and

1525
00:53:20.394 --> 00:53:22.635
- then we go out and and do our

1526
00:53:22.635 --> 00:53:23.855
- best to make it work.

1527
00:53:24.234 --> 00:53:26.175
- And so I think it's helped me

1528
00:53:26.635 --> 00:53:28.094
- once again learn

1529
00:53:28.474 --> 00:53:30.734
- that this is the Church of Jesus Christ.

1530
00:53:31.260 --> 00:53:32.320
- He is in charge,

1531
00:53:32.699 --> 00:53:34.780
- and through his spirit, he can guide us

1532
00:53:34.780 --> 00:53:35.840
- if we will follow.

1533
00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:42.795
- That concludes this episode of the Leading Saints

1534
00:53:42.875 --> 00:53:44.635
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1535
00:53:44.635 --> 00:53:46.554
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1536
00:53:46.554 --> 00:53:48.335
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1537
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- hear on the Leading Saints podcast, go to

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- leadingsaints.org/contact

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- and share with us the information there. And

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- we would love for you to share this

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- with any individual you think this would apply

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- to, especially maybe individuals in your ward council

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- or other leaders that you may know who

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- would really appreciate the perspectives that we discussed.

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- And remember, head on over to Zion Lab

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- and ask a question, see what other questions

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- are being asked at leadingsaints.org/zion.

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- It came as a result of the position

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- of leadership which was imposed upon us by

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- the God of heaven who brought

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- forth a restoration

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- of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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- When the declaration

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- was made concerning the only

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- true and living Church upon the face of

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- the earth,

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- we were immediately put in a position of

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- loneliness,

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- the loneliness of leadership

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- from which we cannot shrink nor run away,

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- and to which we must face up with

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- boldness and courage

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- and ability.