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Welcome, everybody. This is Kurt Frankem with Leading

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Saints, and this is our monthly Leading Saints

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live.

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Now,

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it should be noted that I'm actually gonna

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push this to the podcast feed every week.

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And,

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because I think it's

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the the the struggle that we're in right

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now as a leading saints organization

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is, combining these two worlds as far as

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the the podcast, which has been sort of

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our flagship for for so many years,

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and then Zion Lab, which is quickly becoming

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our flagship,

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platform and in in experience

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in the leading saints world. So if you're

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listening to this and you're like, Kurt, what

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are you even talking about? What is this,

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you know, Zion Lab? So,

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this is really in the last twelve months

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has really

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come hot on the scene

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with Leading Saints where what we discovered is

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that, you know, content's great, and we'll always

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continue to produce content. I love doing interviews.

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That'll always be a thing.

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I love interviewing people about their callings and

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doing how I leads. But what happened is

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I would put this content out there,

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and people would be excited about it, and

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they want to have a platform where they

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could discuss it. Okay?

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And so I wanted to create,

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we wanted to put together a online community,

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so we looked at various platforms to do

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that. We found one called Circle, and now

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we've converted that into a Leading Saints app.

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So wherever you're listening to this, if you're

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listening,

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recorded the recorded version, you can just go

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to the show notes and find the link

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for the the Leading Saints app, and it's

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both in the Apple Store and in the

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Play Store

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for all

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devices. Right?

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And you or you can just go there

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and search for Leading Saints. You'll see their

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familiar red logo, and you'll download

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Zion Lab. And so this is I just

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really

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invite you and encourage you. Like, I know

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you probably have a lot going on or

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you're on social media, you're scrolling, but

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think how much better use of your time

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it is to find a platform like,

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Leading Saints where you can come on and,

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you can scroll through content that actually has

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maybe a little more substance than a funny

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meme or or garbage that you see on

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regular social media. Right?

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And and there's some fantastic,

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discussions happening

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in, Zion Lab, and we invite you to

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then take the next step of asking a

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question or putting a thought out there, writing

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a short article if you want or a

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short thought

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about some dynamic or the other. And just

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to give you like, a lot of these

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ranges from, like, super practical

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niche in about certain topics. So,

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I posted I was talking to somebody who

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serves on a high council, and he just

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mentioned I asked him what he was what

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his responsibilities

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entailed, and he mentioned he's over the blood

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drives

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in a, in in a stake, right, organizing

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blood drives. And I thought, you know what?

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best practices related to blood drives. So I

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went into Zion Lab and created a post.

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He just said, hey. Everybody out there who's

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had experience

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organizing a blood drive or if you have

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any ideas,

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what what are some best practices?

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let's see if I can find that post

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here, or I can simply come in here.

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the post

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blood drive best practices.

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There's already five comments on there. And so

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that way, you know, in a year or

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two, when somebody discovers Leading Saints, they join

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Zion Lab, and they think, oh, no. I've

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got this responsibility

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of blood drives.

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I can go into DesignLab

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and search or use the AI clerk and

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say, hey. I have to organize

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a a stake blood drive. What are some

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ideas there? And

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it will then lead you to that post

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where there's already comments, there's already discussion going,

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and it's cool to see discussions that happened

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three, four months ago that actually pick up

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some additional steam

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by people finding it and leaving another comment.

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And so it's just this really dynamic experience.

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So I really invite everybody

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to jump in DesignLab

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and start engaging,

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start participating, or you kinda sit on the

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back row and kind of just monitor

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and observe

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different discussions going on there,

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but really just super dynamic and a strong

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tool. This is the future of Leading Saints.

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Again, we'll always do the the podcast, the

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interviews, and things like that.

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But this is really where a lot of

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great discussion

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just in this brief episode. I don't know

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how long I'll be yakking here,

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but we are gonna go through

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some of the more popular content

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that happened in the last month. And I

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do these leading saints lives every

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first Friday of the month, and we invite

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people to join live, listen in, make comments,

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or they can, watch it later, make comments

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there. And then I'll push all of this

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the Leading Saints podcast feed as well. Now

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with that said, an additional,

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caveat with how Zion Lab works is we

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have our Zion Builder

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experience as well, where,

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if you pay $15 a month

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to,

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to support our ongoing effort here at Leading

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Saints, you'll get an extended library, extended features,

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the AI Clerk, which the AI Clerk is

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probably my favorite thing about Zion Lab where

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you I think most of us are pretty

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familiar with ChatGPT or other

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platforms at this point where you can go

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in there and ask specific questions. So

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I'm just gonna give you an example. I'll

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I can see some of the different questions

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that people are since I'm on the admin

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Some of the questions that people are asking,

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dominion? Right? And it's

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someone typed that in, and it gives two

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sources. And then, I actually saw this earlier

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and thought, oh, you know what? I need

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to get my Tony Overbay interviews

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into Zion Lab. If you haven't

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heard the Tony Overbay interviews about,

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and synonymous with unrighteous dominion

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is, you know, the more secular term narcissism.

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Tony Overbay, who is a licensed therapist, really

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dynamic, really articulate,

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therapist, we have a long two part discussion

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about narcissism and unrighteous dominion and tyrannical leadership

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and these things phenomenal. So I inserted that

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too. So now it's in the AI database

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to,

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to draw upon. Right? So we're constantly adding

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some of our, long archived,

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content to make sure it's in the in

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EnsignLab so that the AI clerk is pulling

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from that database as well as you ask

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questions. Now this AI clerk,

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that alone makes it worth that of contributing

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$15 a month to leading saints through Zion

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Lab.

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But there there's also a, additional content libraries.

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Right? If you want if you're called as

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as a bishop, as a really sighted president,

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and you wanna really do a deep dive

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on content,

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you know, there's a lot available to,

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free individuals,

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free members,

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but there's

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10 x more available to the Zion Lab

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Builders. Now here's the thing. I never want,

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any

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function or

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resource of Leading Saints to be held back

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from those who can't afford it. And so

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we have sponsors who have,

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prefilled sponsorships

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to to those who maybe can't afford it

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or the it's not in the budget right

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now. So

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jump on one of those sponsorships.

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We actually have

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twenty, thirty, 40 that aren't being used right

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now. So please jump

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on those sponsorships and

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benefit from the content. You get all of

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the, the features of being a Zion builder

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even if you're a sponsored

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Zion builder. So and, of course, those who

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can't afford it, it means a lot. It

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goes a long way. So,

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this, again, I don't mean this sound like

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a a sales pitch as much as I

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just wanna make you available, especially the podcast

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audience who maybe more passively

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waits for a new podcast to drop,

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that, you can

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you can jump on there and,

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access more content and have a better experience

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in

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Zion Lab. Okay?

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few other just to give you another

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anyone saying that the church is,

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trialing a one hour church. Right? This is

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the one of the latest rumors. Right? I

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think if we ever go to one hour

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church, I guarantee you there will be a

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thirty minute church rumor that goes around. I

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really don't think there's anything to this one

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hour church rumor. If you are,

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if you are in the pilot program for

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one hour church, will you reach out to

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me? But I guarantee you, every time I

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hear about these rumors, it's always,

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well, no. My cousins, sisters, friends, brother, like,

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you know, they're they're piloting it. Like, I

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don't believe you. It's gotta be a firsthand

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experience, and then I'll believe you. So,

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anyway so you get asked all sorts of

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questions. And and the AI clerk says he

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couldn't find any information about the church trialing

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a one hour church service. If you have

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more specific details or context, please let me

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know. So

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you can literally ask anything. Right?

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Taking, this person that's taking the the sacrament

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at home during general conference. Right? And the

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area clerk says that the practice of taking

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the sacrament at home during general conference weekend

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the topic of providing welfare in a Christ

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like way? Love it. And it gives a

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leading and teaching you through strong example. There's

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also the,

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content about

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administering welfare that every bishop should,

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be familiar with. So, anyways, that's how the

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AI Clerk works.

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You also have access to our deep library

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of virtual summits

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you know, additional content has a lot of

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the the Zion Builder wall as if you

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will, and and only after a certain amount

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of time. So if you want access to

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our full library, those things. But, again, we're

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not trying to hold back anything from anybody

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in the Leading Saints audience because we have

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sponsorships

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standing by ready for you to benefit from

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them. And if you need if you need

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help, you can just message me in Zyon

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Lab. So at least go in there, download

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the app, create a free profile, and just

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start poking around using it. And

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and try the, you know, upgrade to the

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month. Try it out, see if it's worth

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your your investment there. And, if not, let

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me know, and we'll do our best to

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make it even better as time goes on.

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And we'll get better as time goes on.

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In fact, another feature we're hoping to roll

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out this week is we are going to

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have a separate podcast feed

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for all Zion Builders. So why would we

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do that? Well, we have so many live

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streams going on during the week that it's

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way too much content for me to flood

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the the traditional podcast feed with. And so,

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but those who want to listen more of

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the traditional podcast,

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you know, way with subscribing to a feed

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and using Apple Podcasts or a, you know,

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Pocket Cast or whatever app you use to

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consume podcast content. You'll be able to subscribe

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to that as a design builder. And so

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the minute we get done with a a

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certain livestream that maybe you weren't able to

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attend,

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you can automatically listen to that recording on

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the go on your way home from work

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or

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at during lunch or whatever it is. Right?

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So that just more and more value and

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resources

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for for Zhiyun Builders. So

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with that said, now that you're all just

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excited to jump in and,

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use Zion Lab, let's look at some of

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the popular content in the last,

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in the last month of of March, what

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was talked about, things going on. And, hopefully,

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again, those of you who haven't used Zion

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Lab, you'll see the value of being in

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this conversation and download the app, you know,

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managing the notifications so that you know when

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new conversations are happening. And we would love

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your input and perspective.

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And, so many people learn so much, and

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it enhances their calling. So,

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so I'm just looking at

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at the popular post, and

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surprise to no one is a post I

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did called changes to the Sunday meeting schedule.

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Okay?

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Now I I think my brother sent me

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a text when this dropped. Was it was

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it Monday when it dropped? It was really

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random time when it dropped. Right? And sent

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me the link, and so I quickly jumped

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on Zion Lab and posted the link to

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get the conversation going. And lo and behold,

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since I posted it four days ago, it

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has 46 comments. Right? Lots to consider, lots

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to talk about. And I'm sure you've heard

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a lot about these Sunday changes on different

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podcasts or

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or online on social media. But Leading Saints

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is the only place you're gonna hear from

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from maybe a leadership context or a really

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administrative context.

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And so, you know, there's definitely a different,

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a different flavor to this. So and let

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me maybe I'll share my screen here.

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Let me make sure the get the right

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windows open.

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Okay. I'll share my screen so you look

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see what I'm looking at here.

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alright. There we go.

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So as you see, this is the post

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I did. 46 comments, four likes, and, you

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can go on and on

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to read through those. Or there's an AI

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function that it will give you a conversation

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summary.

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So let's read that and kinda give us

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a flavor, and maybe I can I can

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pontificate off of some of the some of

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the content there or

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some of the discussion points that people have

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been leaving in the comments?

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So, says the discussion centers on the recent

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changes to the Sunday

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meeting schedule, particularly the shortened class times

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and the elimination

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of pre lesson counseling.

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Members express mixed feelings.

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Hasn't had been the theme of these changes.

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Mixed feelings by everybody involved,

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about the impact on teaching teaching quality, community

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building, and engagement. While some appreciate the opportunity

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to see quorum and classes weekly and believe

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shorter lessons can be effective

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with proper preparation.

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Others worry about the loss of meaningful discussion

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time and the challenge of fostering vulnerability

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and connection

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in the compressed format.

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Okay. Let let me just,

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talk about a few of these

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a few of these points that are referenced,

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like the

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teaching quality,

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the community building, and engagement.

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Where on the flip side, some see as

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opportunities to see quorums and classes more often,

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right, weekly, and believe shorter lessons can be

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effective with proper preparation.

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So, this is

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obviously interesting,

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an interesting,

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you know, update to the meeting schedules, which

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again take don't take effect until September 6.

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When I saw it, it's one of those

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things. Like, anything new, you're like I think,

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naturally, we're, like,

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skeptical

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of anything new or changes. Like, wait a

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minute. Like, wasn't the old way fine, or

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why are they doing this? What's the motivations?

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Are there any hidden motivations?

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Right? I don't know. That's where my brain

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goes to do sometimes. So I'm, like, immediately

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kinda resistant. Like, ah, like, why are they

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doing that? Right? And, really, back when

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they made these changes or went to two

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hour church, they really kinda have those two

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options. Right? They could go to an alternating

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schedule,

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or they can go to a split schedule

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like they're they're doing. And now we tried

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the alternating schedule, and,

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maybe there's some benefits. Obviously, more time in

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in class and those things, but now we're

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trying to split schedule, and I'm open to

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it. I'm that's the one thing of Leading

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Saints, the the stories you hear on Leading

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Saints that constantly goes to this place of,

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like, you know what? Try something different.

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Consider all of the the wide spaces in

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the the handbook that there's a lot that

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you're not given direct,

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you know,

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prescriptive

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direction on. And so I love to find

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those wards and organizations that are trying something

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different that are still within the boundaries

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of of the handbook, but it's different. And

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they're maybe seeing more positive results and hopefully

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inspires others to try things. Right? So I'm

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always game to try something new. Let's see

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how it goes.

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There is sort of this weird,

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I guess this,

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I need to share. I was on the

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the quick show with Greg Matson, and we

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talked about revelation,

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inspiration, both personal revelation,

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you know, profit revelation, those types of things,

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and how that impacts our personal experience as

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a a Latter day Saint. Keep reminding myself.

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I need to make note of that to

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to post that. But,

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because a lot of people are framing the,

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this,

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you know, this new change to a split

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schedule as revelation.

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Now

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Barnaby

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goes to, well, what do you mean by

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revelation? Right? So many of us think that,

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you know, I I just don't see it

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working in a way where, like,

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president Oaks sat up in bed one night

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and is like, we must do a split

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schedule. Now he may there may have been

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nudges and promptings that lead them one way.

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One thing I have learned with working so

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closely with the church is that

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is that these things don't this isn't like

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a six month process. Right? It's not like

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president

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Oaks, you know, was called the as the

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prophet, and then he had this revelation of

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do it, and then it it's it's out

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now. A lot of these things take years

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in the making and lots of counseling meetings

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and and pilot testing and things like that.

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And that's just in my opinion, that's just

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how revelation works. Right? So you can frame

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it as revelation,

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but also

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to

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it would be naive in my opinion to

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think that, like,

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you know, if Christ is at the helm

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of this church, then he is also

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somewhere in the cosmos putting together this, infographic

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about, you know, to reveal split schedule,

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church. Yeah.

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Anyway, so that's maybe neither here nor there.

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But I guess it in the in the

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announcement

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of this split schedule and,

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you know, one thing we really avoid and

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it's just not our

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our

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our MO here is we're not overly critical

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of the church as an institution. We're not

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overly critical of individual church leaders or how

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they're doing things. Right? That I think that

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that would generally be inappropriate.

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And so if this comes across like that,

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it's not the case. But I went I

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I kinda wish there was a paragraph in

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the announcement or two

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just sort of articulating,

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getting everybody on the same page of what

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is the purpose of church.

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Because I would say the bare bones purpose

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of a church is to renew

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our baptismal ordinances or or, you know, or

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or baptism baptismal covenants,

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as individually. Right?

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And but that only takes

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fifteen minutes, ten minutes, sometimes, right, depending on

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your word size.

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So in theory, could we just, like, show

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up and

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just take the sacrament and go home? Right?

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But, of course, you know, there's scripture out

546
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,339
there as far I'm thinking of Moroni six.

547
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,920
Right? There's lots of scripture as far as

548
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,420
encouraging

549
00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:23,559
the the church to gather and to pray

550
00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:26,039
together and exhort and sucker one another and

551
00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:28,279
so forth. And so, yeah, there's maybe more

552
00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:29,900
of a purpose for church there.

553
00:20:31,695 --> 00:20:33,934
But I I don't know. Like, because I

554
00:20:33,934 --> 00:20:36,734
think, generally speaking and maybe I'm projecting my

555
00:20:36,734 --> 00:20:38,494
own experience because this is this is my

556
00:20:38,494 --> 00:20:41,055
experience. I typically go to church, one, to

557
00:20:41,055 --> 00:20:43,855
to renew more ordinances, which is really, you

558
00:20:43,855 --> 00:20:46,640
know, pivotal for me. But two, I go

559
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,299
for community.

560
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,160
Right? I go to be among the saints,

561
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,619
to connect with them, to,

562
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,799
I go to see my friends and and

563
00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:56,480
not just see my friends and hang out,

564
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,734
but to have, like, deep doctrinal discussion, right,

565
00:20:59,734 --> 00:21:00,234
or

566
00:21:00,615 --> 00:21:03,194
or bear testimony one with another or

567
00:21:03,654 --> 00:21:05,894
see faith witnessed. You know, see somebody talk

568
00:21:05,894 --> 00:21:07,894
about a tough week, a tough trial, and

569
00:21:07,894 --> 00:21:09,734
how Jesus Christ is showing up in their

570
00:21:09,734 --> 00:21:10,230
life

571
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:12,490
for that trial. Right? And so

572
00:21:15,589 --> 00:21:17,990
that's that's kinda why I am that's why

573
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:19,849
I go to church primarily. Right?

574
00:21:20,869 --> 00:21:23,190
I would also and and this new split

575
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:25,644
schedule kinda makes that more difficult. Right? We

576
00:21:25,644 --> 00:21:27,805
have less time in class, less time, like,

577
00:21:27,805 --> 00:21:30,305
hallway time, transition time with the five minutes.

578
00:21:32,045 --> 00:21:33,484
Though maybe that there's a lot of that

579
00:21:33,484 --> 00:21:35,484
community, if it's done right, in my opinion,

580
00:21:35,484 --> 00:21:36,944
and it can be done right,

581
00:21:38,669 --> 00:21:39,809
you can still stimulate

582
00:21:40,109 --> 00:21:40,609
significant,

583
00:21:41,230 --> 00:21:41,730
community

584
00:21:42,669 --> 00:21:43,409
in the church

585
00:21:43,710 --> 00:21:45,889
or in your, you know, Sunday schedule.

586
00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:48,269
I think another where my mind goes if

587
00:21:48,269 --> 00:21:50,029
if you're really pushed, like, why else do

588
00:21:50,029 --> 00:21:52,690
people come to church? I would say for

589
00:21:52,945 --> 00:21:55,265
gospel instruction to learn the doctrine. Right? And

590
00:21:55,265 --> 00:21:56,404
I think in every,

591
00:21:57,184 --> 00:21:59,744
purpose statement of whether it's the Relief Society

592
00:21:59,744 --> 00:22:02,144
or the elders quorum or the youth or

593
00:22:02,144 --> 00:22:04,404
whatever, like, there's always this mention of

594
00:22:04,945 --> 00:22:05,765
learn doctrine.

595
00:22:06,380 --> 00:22:08,620
And so, yeah, we definitely go to church

596
00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:11,100
to learn doctrine. But, again, the new schedule

597
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,180
kind of makes that a little more difficult,

598
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:16,380
right, with these shorter class periods. Right? So,

599
00:22:16,380 --> 00:22:17,820
again, this isn't meant to be, like, a

600
00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:19,980
criticism or this will never work or whatever.

601
00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:22,325
I'm excited come September to give this a

602
00:22:22,325 --> 00:22:22,825
try.

603
00:22:23,445 --> 00:22:25,705
I'm just kind of curious, like, from the,

604
00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:28,505
like, the brethren standpoint or even the institutional

605
00:22:28,725 --> 00:22:31,125
standpoint, like, how do they define church? Like,

606
00:22:31,125 --> 00:22:33,549
what are we trying to accomplish here? Because

607
00:22:33,549 --> 00:22:35,710
I feel like if they put that forward

608
00:22:35,710 --> 00:22:37,570
and really help us understand that,

609
00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:39,890
more more likely,

610
00:22:40,349 --> 00:22:41,089
more wards

611
00:22:41,549 --> 00:22:44,369
and stakes will have a more positive experience

612
00:22:45,384 --> 00:22:46,984
because of that. Because they we're all on

613
00:22:46,984 --> 00:22:48,664
the same page of, okay. This is what

614
00:22:48,664 --> 00:22:50,265
we're trying to accomplish here. So I would

615
00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:52,744
love individuals to either comment on this on

616
00:22:52,744 --> 00:22:53,404
this post,

617
00:22:53,944 --> 00:22:56,105
or this video, this live stream or this

618
00:22:56,105 --> 00:22:57,785
live it is a leading stage live. It

619
00:22:57,785 --> 00:22:59,224
is a live stream even though you're probably

620
00:22:59,224 --> 00:23:00,365
not listening to it live.

621
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,279
Or come into Zine Lab and share your

622
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,279
comments. And maybe I need to start another

623
00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:05,599
feed,

624
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:08,000
another post on that as far as, like,

625
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,259
what is the purpose of church. Right?

626
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:13,039
And that's and I always love doing this.

627
00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:14,399
Whenever I have a question like that, I'm

628
00:23:14,399 --> 00:23:14,899
thinking,

629
00:23:15,285 --> 00:23:17,605
what is what would the AI say on

630
00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:19,924
that? So I'm gonna go the AI clerk

631
00:23:19,924 --> 00:23:22,265
for those Zion Builders, it's in the messaging,

632
00:23:24,325 --> 00:23:26,565
the direct messaging area. So I'm gonna ask

633
00:23:26,565 --> 00:23:27,065
here,

634
00:23:29,259 --> 00:23:29,759
why

635
00:23:30,220 --> 00:23:33,680
do Latter day Saints go to church?

636
00:23:34,779 --> 00:23:36,000
And it'll take a minute,

637
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,619
but it's gonna go through all of our

638
00:23:38,619 --> 00:23:40,779
content, see if there's any discussion there, any

639
00:23:40,779 --> 00:23:41,839
content or podcasts

640
00:23:43,914 --> 00:23:46,095
shared. So here, let me share my

641
00:23:46,875 --> 00:23:47,375
screen.

642
00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:50,335
And

643
00:23:51,115 --> 00:23:51,855
here it goes.

644
00:23:53,835 --> 00:23:54,335
Alright.

645
00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:57,769
So it says, Latter day Saints attend church

646
00:23:57,769 --> 00:23:58,830
for several reasons

647
00:23:59,529 --> 00:24:01,710
rooted in their faith and religious practices.

648
00:24:02,170 --> 00:24:05,450
Worship and sacrament, attending church provides an opportunity

649
00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:07,630
to worship God and partake of the sacrament,

650
00:24:07,994 --> 00:24:09,674
which is a central ordinance to the Latter

651
00:24:09,674 --> 00:24:11,914
day Saint worship. It allows members to renew

652
00:24:11,914 --> 00:24:13,375
their covenants with God. Okay?

653
00:24:14,075 --> 00:24:15,214
Community and fellowship.

654
00:24:15,674 --> 00:24:18,795
Church attendance fosters a sense of community and

655
00:24:18,795 --> 00:24:22,255
fellowship among members. It provides a supportive environment

656
00:24:22,315 --> 00:24:25,650
where individuals can connect, serve one another, and

657
00:24:25,650 --> 00:24:26,150
strengthen

658
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:27,750
their faith together.

659
00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:30,609
The next reason is learn and grow. Church

660
00:24:30,609 --> 00:24:33,809
meetings offer opportunities for learning and spiritual growth

661
00:24:33,809 --> 00:24:36,769
through teaching lessons and discussion. Okay? Next one

662
00:24:36,769 --> 00:24:38,230
is service and callings.

663
00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:41,345
That seems valid. Attaining the church allows members

664
00:24:41,345 --> 00:24:43,444
to fulfill their callings and serve others.

665
00:24:44,384 --> 00:24:46,625
Service is a fundamental aspect of Latter Saint

666
00:24:46,625 --> 00:24:48,704
beliefs. Love that. And then lastly, it says

667
00:24:48,704 --> 00:24:49,684
spiritual renewal.

668
00:24:50,384 --> 00:24:54,460
Regular church attendance helps members feel spiritually renewed

669
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:57,720
and strengthened. It provides a dedicated time and

670
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,220
space

671
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,059
to focus on spiritual matters and receive inspiration

672
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,279
and guidance. So, yeah, that's interesting. Not that,

673
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:06,039
you know, this is an AI, not that

674
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:07,934
you should take it as gospel, but,

675
00:25:10,154 --> 00:25:10,554
but,

676
00:25:11,274 --> 00:25:13,355
that would be worth considering. Like, okay. Like,

677
00:25:13,355 --> 00:25:15,595
how can we how can we worship more

678
00:25:15,595 --> 00:25:16,494
in this context

679
00:25:16,954 --> 00:25:18,254
in in this new schedule?

680
00:25:18,569 --> 00:25:21,529
How do we strengthen community and fellowship? How

681
00:25:21,529 --> 00:25:23,470
do we learn to grow service and callings?

682
00:25:24,409 --> 00:25:26,490
Like, would will this mean, like, there will

683
00:25:26,490 --> 00:25:28,890
be more callings available? I think I think

684
00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:30,490
a lot of people are mentioning that just

685
00:25:30,490 --> 00:25:31,470
because of the

686
00:25:33,164 --> 00:25:34,065
the, you know,

687
00:25:34,605 --> 00:25:36,224
the opportunities for more teachers

688
00:25:36,845 --> 00:25:38,684
to rotate through. And then how do we

689
00:25:38,684 --> 00:25:40,765
just create a place of more service and

690
00:25:40,765 --> 00:25:43,724
spiritual renewal? Right? And that that that'll be

691
00:25:43,724 --> 00:25:45,659
tough one is is we start this in

692
00:25:45,659 --> 00:25:47,019
September. How do we make it so we're

693
00:25:47,019 --> 00:25:49,019
not just running through the schedule? Because it's

694
00:25:49,019 --> 00:25:50,700
gonna feel like that, at least for the

695
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,259
first little while until we acclimate to the

696
00:25:53,259 --> 00:25:56,059
schedule of, like, woah. Like, Sunday schools are

697
00:25:56,059 --> 00:25:58,380
already over? Like, wow. Okay. Here we go.

698
00:25:58,380 --> 00:26:00,255
Right. Woah. Like, we're going home already.

699
00:26:00,654 --> 00:26:01,154
So

700
00:26:01,694 --> 00:26:04,174
I think those more transitions like that make

701
00:26:04,174 --> 00:26:04,674
time

702
00:26:05,134 --> 00:26:07,775
feel like it's it's going it's going faster.

703
00:26:07,775 --> 00:26:08,275
So,

704
00:26:08,734 --> 00:26:11,775
anyways, that's a good thank you, AI Clerk,

705
00:26:11,775 --> 00:26:13,795
for doing your AI stuff.

706
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,380
Let me go back to

707
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:19,799
changes for sending me schedule. I won't spend

708
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:21,160
too much more time on this, but,

709
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:24,920
I think those are my general thoughts. I'm

710
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,180
getting I'm getting more people. I had a

711
00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:32,075
a a short, real go out, short video

712
00:26:32,454 --> 00:26:32,954
about,

713
00:26:33,494 --> 00:26:36,295
that that references how I approach elders quorum

714
00:26:36,295 --> 00:26:37,835
as an elders quorum president.

715
00:26:38,214 --> 00:26:40,295
And to me, this is going to to

716
00:26:40,295 --> 00:26:42,390
me, the this approach I've been doing is

717
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:43,130
is gonna

718
00:26:43,589 --> 00:26:46,150
become, I think, more reason to give it

719
00:26:46,150 --> 00:26:46,730
a try.

720
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:49,509
And the reason I say that is we

721
00:26:49,509 --> 00:26:50,150
do this so

722
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:52,950
and, again, I'll do this on another episode

723
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:54,309
where I go into detail, but here's a

724
00:26:54,309 --> 00:26:54,970
quick summary.

725
00:26:56,309 --> 00:26:58,734
Every week, we have we have about,

726
00:26:59,674 --> 00:27:01,375
I don't know, 30 to forty

727
00:27:01,835 --> 00:27:04,075
forty men in our quorum. And I always

728
00:27:04,075 --> 00:27:05,835
forget them how the math, but it usually

729
00:27:05,835 --> 00:27:07,375
ends up being there's

730
00:27:07,755 --> 00:27:09,134
four or five or six

731
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:10,259
individuals

732
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,799
that we reach out to every week and

733
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:13,940
say, hey.

734
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,259
Will you be ready to facilitate

735
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,700
a discussion

736
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,220
among

737
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:20,980
four to six men

738
00:27:21,855 --> 00:27:24,414
and pick a a general conference talk that

739
00:27:24,414 --> 00:27:27,055
you can speak to about, you know, in

740
00:27:27,055 --> 00:27:28,194
that in that discussion.

741
00:27:29,134 --> 00:27:30,654
And so, you know, they say, yes. I'll

742
00:27:30,654 --> 00:27:32,654
I'll do that and come come prepared. So

743
00:27:32,654 --> 00:27:35,315
they'll they're now one of five or six

744
00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:36,430
facilitators

745
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:38,349
in Elders Court.

746
00:27:39,049 --> 00:27:40,890
And then the reason why this is so

747
00:27:40,890 --> 00:27:42,970
important because everybody's concerned about the twenty five

748
00:27:42,970 --> 00:27:46,650
minutes. Like, people lollygag. They're just, like, you

749
00:27:46,650 --> 00:27:48,410
know, taking their time in the halls. They

750
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,894
get into a conversation. And even now, we

751
00:27:50,894 --> 00:27:51,795
have a ten minute,

752
00:27:52,894 --> 00:27:53,714
a ten minute,

753
00:27:54,494 --> 00:27:56,734
you know, transition time between sacrament and the

754
00:27:56,734 --> 00:27:58,894
second hour. And there's still people that are

755
00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:00,275
ten minutes late to,

756
00:28:01,130 --> 00:28:02,490
to that second hour, right, which I don't

757
00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:04,090
necessarily fault them because I know that they

758
00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:05,690
are having a discussion in the hallway, and

759
00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:07,450
it's not like they you know, to me,

760
00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:08,990
that that's gonna do a lot,

761
00:28:09,769 --> 00:28:11,369
though it's great to have them in in

762
00:28:11,369 --> 00:28:13,765
class as well. Right? And so a lot

763
00:28:13,765 --> 00:28:15,285
of people are concerned, like, how are we

764
00:28:15,285 --> 00:28:17,285
gonna get to it. Right? And nobody wants

765
00:28:17,285 --> 00:28:19,204
to be like the hall monitor, and though

766
00:28:19,204 --> 00:28:20,724
that may not be a bad idea as

767
00:28:20,724 --> 00:28:23,365
far as, like, you know, shepherding people to

768
00:28:23,365 --> 00:28:23,865
class.

769
00:28:24,484 --> 00:28:24,984
But

770
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:27,460
the way that I do this is that

771
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:29,220
I've already have these five or six people

772
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:31,400
that are prepared to facilitate the discussion.

773
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,259
So when I get five people that walk

774
00:28:34,259 --> 00:28:35,559
into elders quorum,

775
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:38,180
hey, guys. You you're the group. Right? Go

776
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:40,180
go over to that corner and get going.

777
00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:41,855
Right? And so for them,

778
00:28:42,234 --> 00:28:44,315
they started right after, right, you know, four

779
00:28:44,315 --> 00:28:46,394
minutes after sacrament meeting or five minutes, you

780
00:28:46,394 --> 00:28:47,835
know, depending on when they all get there,

781
00:28:47,835 --> 00:28:49,595
and they're off and running. And the next

782
00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:51,375
group comes in. Alright. Hey. You five.

783
00:28:51,914 --> 00:28:53,835
You're in this other corner. You get going.

784
00:28:53,835 --> 00:28:54,269
Right?

785
00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:57,470
And then we get you know, then the

786
00:28:57,470 --> 00:28:59,330
the rest come pretty quick at that point.

787
00:29:00,430 --> 00:29:02,589
And so they're already going. They're not waiting

788
00:29:02,589 --> 00:29:04,509
for the majority of the class to get

789
00:29:04,509 --> 00:29:05,650
there to start.

790
00:29:06,674 --> 00:29:08,355
They're off and running. Now if you're do

791
00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:10,035
it the traditional way with, you know, rows

792
00:29:10,035 --> 00:29:12,595
of chairs and you're gonna have one instructor

793
00:29:12,595 --> 00:29:14,855
for the class, yeah, you can jump in

794
00:29:15,154 --> 00:29:17,634
and get get started as quickly as possible.

795
00:29:17,634 --> 00:29:20,590
And I would recommend that because then, you

796
00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:22,670
know, it actually helps people acclimate to the

797
00:29:22,670 --> 00:29:24,590
new experience. Like, oh, like, yeah. They're they're

798
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:26,430
taking this serious. They're they're gonna jump in

799
00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:27,410
and get going. Right?

800
00:29:28,910 --> 00:29:29,570
But then

801
00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:32,269
with the structure I do it, we got

802
00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:34,029
people that are lingering in the hallways and

803
00:29:34,029 --> 00:29:35,230
they come in as they do. And I

804
00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:36,825
just, when they walk in, I kinda make

805
00:29:36,825 --> 00:29:38,505
eye contact and point to a certain group.

806
00:29:38,505 --> 00:29:39,945
They know, oh, that's my group, and I'll

807
00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:42,345
just go in and join wherever this the

808
00:29:42,345 --> 00:29:44,845
discussion is going. So I'm really

809
00:29:45,224 --> 00:29:47,384
not worried about as far as speaking as

810
00:29:47,384 --> 00:29:49,224
an elders quorum president. I'm not too worried

811
00:29:49,224 --> 00:29:51,390
about how this is gonna impact our our

812
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:53,630
schedule or learning time or whatever. We're gonna

813
00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:56,049
get right into it. And, you know, obviously,

814
00:29:57,390 --> 00:29:59,789
we're gonna shorten shorten it down because we

815
00:29:59,789 --> 00:30:00,690
typically have

816
00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:02,690
forty five, fifty minutes

817
00:30:03,265 --> 00:30:05,424
to, in Elder's Chrome currently. So we'll have

818
00:30:05,424 --> 00:30:07,184
to shorten some things down. But the bulk

819
00:30:07,265 --> 00:30:09,025
the majority of it will be that general

820
00:30:09,025 --> 00:30:12,224
conference discussion. Right? And, again, the reason I

821
00:30:12,224 --> 00:30:14,224
do this, there's so many components. And, again,

822
00:30:14,224 --> 00:30:15,044
I'll do a

823
00:30:15,585 --> 00:30:16,335
a more

824
00:30:17,490 --> 00:30:18,710
dynamic or more,

825
00:30:19,490 --> 00:30:20,549
a longer episode

826
00:30:21,329 --> 00:30:22,630
about this topic. But

827
00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:25,809
imagine, like, think about your elders quorum or

828
00:30:25,809 --> 00:30:27,750
your release site experience, and you say,

829
00:30:28,609 --> 00:30:30,690
on average, what would you guess is the

830
00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:33,525
percentage of of people in the room that

831
00:30:33,525 --> 00:30:36,085
actually make a comment and have, like, an

832
00:30:36,085 --> 00:30:38,484
engagement in it? Right? And how many of

833
00:30:38,484 --> 00:30:40,325
those are maybe on their phone? You know,

834
00:30:40,325 --> 00:30:42,164
what percentage are on their phone or sort

835
00:30:42,164 --> 00:30:43,384
of not locked in?

836
00:30:44,404 --> 00:30:45,384
And I would guess,

837
00:30:46,164 --> 00:30:46,904
10%.

838
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,320
Okay. Maybe 20% of people are making comments.

839
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,640
And and it does depend on your the

840
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,980
size of the group. The larger the size

841
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:58,960
probably depletes that percentage of people participating because

842
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,779
it just becomes more intimidating for people to

843
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,295
make a comment or so forth. Right? Or

844
00:31:04,295 --> 00:31:06,214
one person feels comfortable and they make two

845
00:31:06,214 --> 00:31:09,095
comments, three comments. Right? But the beauty of

846
00:31:09,095 --> 00:31:11,434
splitting them up into smaller groups

847
00:31:12,214 --> 00:31:13,575
is be is to,

848
00:31:14,134 --> 00:31:14,634
it

849
00:31:15,894 --> 00:31:17,039
skyrockets that

850
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,740
participation percentage.

851
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:20,180
Well, participation

852
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:21,059
percentage

853
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,759
because now they're in a group of five

854
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:24,740
or six guys.

855
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Now they are more comfortable making a comment.

856
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,600
And not only do they make the comment,

857
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,900
but it feels more personal.

858
00:31:31,384 --> 00:31:33,644
And, man, it is so beautiful to watch

859
00:31:33,784 --> 00:31:35,704
these men open up. Right? And I'm not

860
00:31:35,704 --> 00:31:38,184
claiming this is perfect or, you know, every

861
00:31:38,184 --> 00:31:39,804
person engages or whatever.

862
00:31:40,424 --> 00:31:42,825
But I've had there's one instance few weeks

863
00:31:42,825 --> 00:31:43,565
ago where

864
00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:45,710
one one guy in the circle I was

865
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:47,069
in was saying, you know what? I just

866
00:31:47,069 --> 00:31:48,990
had a really tough morning, like, get the

867
00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:50,450
family. He's got young kids.

868
00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:52,450
Get in the family of the church, and

869
00:31:52,829 --> 00:31:54,429
I told myself, I'm just gonna go to

870
00:31:54,429 --> 00:31:55,250
elders quorum

871
00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:57,250
and just sort of not

872
00:31:57,575 --> 00:31:59,654
participate. Right? And he's sort of newer in

873
00:31:59,654 --> 00:32:01,335
our words, so he didn't he didn't he's

874
00:32:01,335 --> 00:32:03,595
not as familiar with this this approach.

875
00:32:03,974 --> 00:32:05,575
And then he came comes in the elders

876
00:32:05,575 --> 00:32:07,255
quorum, and he sits in the circle. And

877
00:32:07,255 --> 00:32:09,839
he's like, but now, like, I just I'm

878
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,240
surprised how much how much I am talking

879
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,599
because I was not in a good place

880
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,179
when I walked into elders corp. And he

881
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,019
he made a lot of comments,

882
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,079
you know, during that day, which would have

883
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,319
never happened. They're so easy for people to

884
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,179
hide on the second and last row

885
00:32:25,264 --> 00:32:28,065
of of elder squirm or Relief Society because

886
00:32:28,065 --> 00:32:30,625
they can just scroll or go somewhere else

887
00:32:30,625 --> 00:32:32,944
or sort of passively listen and no. Or

888
00:32:32,944 --> 00:32:34,704
they make the assumption, oh, people don't wanna

889
00:32:34,704 --> 00:32:37,284
hear my perspective anyways. Right? So, anyways,

890
00:32:39,105 --> 00:32:40,085
I think that

891
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,519
is a good summary of that post. Obviously,

892
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,119
this is a big news in our world,

893
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,299
especially in church leadership where we're administrative

894
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,740
administration

895
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,059
focused a lot. And so,

896
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,160
yeah, changes to meeting schedule. And then there

897
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,980
were additional,

898
00:32:58,144 --> 00:32:59,345
and I won't go into this. I feel

899
00:32:59,345 --> 00:33:00,945
like I belabor the point, but there's additional

900
00:33:00,945 --> 00:33:02,325
posts that have popped up.

901
00:33:03,025 --> 00:33:05,045
Let me find that. One is about,

902
00:33:05,424 --> 00:33:06,085
you know,

903
00:33:09,025 --> 00:33:10,565
as far as teaching goes,

904
00:33:12,009 --> 00:33:14,430
Kevin Jones, he made a great post.

905
00:33:15,450 --> 00:33:17,609
Oh, it's in the teaching space because there's

906
00:33:17,609 --> 00:33:20,009
different spaces. Right? So you subscribe in Zion

907
00:33:20,009 --> 00:33:21,849
Lab. You pick what spaces you wanna hear

908
00:33:21,849 --> 00:33:24,684
about. So if you're a guy and you're

909
00:33:24,684 --> 00:33:26,444
not you don't need to hear anything about

910
00:33:26,444 --> 00:33:28,284
Relief Society, you don't have to join that

911
00:33:28,284 --> 00:33:30,625
space. You're welcome to if you want. But,

912
00:33:31,085 --> 00:33:31,884
so in teaching

913
00:33:34,845 --> 00:33:36,365
just read this. I think this is really

914
00:33:36,365 --> 00:33:36,865
helpful.

915
00:33:40,990 --> 00:33:43,950
Scrolling. Scrolling. There's just so much discussion going

916
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:44,690
on here.

917
00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:48,769
Oh, this I went too far back.

918
00:33:51,069 --> 00:33:51,569
Righty.

919
00:33:51,869 --> 00:33:52,849
How to increase

920
00:33:53,575 --> 00:33:54,634
teachings challenges.

921
00:33:55,815 --> 00:33:57,495
We have questions to ask. I wonder if

922
00:33:57,495 --> 00:33:58,955
he moved it or,

923
00:34:01,015 --> 00:34:03,894
well, this is silly. Anyways, he talked about

924
00:34:03,894 --> 00:34:04,950
the I'm just

925
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:09,690
Here he is.

926
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:13,429
It was a good discussion posts. Here we

927
00:34:13,429 --> 00:34:13,929
go.

928
00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:15,130
Okay.

929
00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:17,449
He said he made a comment or a,

930
00:34:19,525 --> 00:34:20,264
post called

931
00:34:20,565 --> 00:34:22,344
making the new meeting adjustments

932
00:34:22,804 --> 00:34:23,304
work.

933
00:34:25,204 --> 00:34:27,525
So with the church announcement of the meeting

934
00:34:27,525 --> 00:34:29,945
adjustments, they gave the following initial reasons.

935
00:34:30,324 --> 00:34:32,644
To support members in their efforts to be

936
00:34:32,644 --> 00:34:35,579
lifelong disciples of Jesus Christ, the adjustment will

937
00:34:35,579 --> 00:34:37,840
strengthen gospel learning in home and congregations

938
00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:41,260
throughout the world. And maybe this was alluding

939
00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:42,619
to a little bit that kind of that

940
00:34:42,619 --> 00:34:43,599
paragraph I wanted,

941
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:46,400
but, again, I think it's speaking more generally.

942
00:34:46,539 --> 00:34:49,335
Says, also, gathering weekly in every class helps

943
00:34:49,494 --> 00:34:49,994
deepen

944
00:34:50,295 --> 00:34:51,514
deepen gospel learning

945
00:34:51,815 --> 00:34:54,295
by connecting it more closely to personal family

946
00:34:54,295 --> 00:34:57,094
study, said president Paul v Johnson, Sunday school

947
00:34:57,094 --> 00:35:00,214
general president. It also enhances the spiritual support

948
00:35:00,214 --> 00:35:01,349
that members get.

949
00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:04,230
And then this is Kevin speaking. My big

950
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:04,730
takeaway

951
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:08,230
is that the adjustment will strengthen gospel learning

952
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:11,829
in homes and deepen gospel learning by connecting

953
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:14,730
it more closely to personal and family studies.

954
00:35:15,204 --> 00:35:17,525
I'm curious of your ideas of how you

955
00:35:17,525 --> 00:35:18,264
might structure

956
00:35:19,125 --> 00:35:21,284
your teaching to make this happen. You see

957
00:35:21,284 --> 00:35:23,284
the power of posts like this? I just

958
00:35:23,444 --> 00:35:25,364
it gets me giddy because so for so

959
00:35:25,364 --> 00:35:26,885
many years, it was up to me to,

960
00:35:26,885 --> 00:35:28,964
like, go out and find the person, interview

961
00:35:28,964 --> 00:35:29,545
the person,

962
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,559
and there's just never enough time nor did

963
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,579
I have capacity to do that. Right?

964
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:35,780
And so

965
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,559
this discussion happened without me even worrying about

966
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:40,400
it. Anyways, that's beside the point. So there's

967
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,380
14 comments,

968
00:35:42,734 --> 00:35:45,534
and the AI summarizes that the discussion centers

969
00:35:45,534 --> 00:35:48,014
on adapting teaching methods to align with the

970
00:35:48,014 --> 00:35:50,114
new meeting adjustments and emphasize

971
00:35:50,894 --> 00:35:53,855
strengthening gospel learning at home and enhance personal

972
00:35:53,855 --> 00:35:54,914
and family study.

973
00:35:55,569 --> 00:35:59,010
Commenters explore shifting from lecture based instruction to

974
00:35:59,010 --> 00:36:01,670
more interactive discussion focused meetings

975
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:05,569
to support home center gospel learning. There's also

976
00:36:05,569 --> 00:36:06,869
attention to inclusively

977
00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:08,869
ensuring that lessons

978
00:36:09,295 --> 00:36:11,775
meet the needs of diverse class members while

979
00:36:11,775 --> 00:36:13,394
fostering meaningful connection

980
00:36:13,695 --> 00:36:14,835
and shared experiences.

981
00:36:16,014 --> 00:36:18,494
Yeah. That and, again, what a great resource

982
00:36:18,494 --> 00:36:20,414
to have, right, if you're if you begin

983
00:36:20,414 --> 00:36:21,074
to struggle

984
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:23,590
with the teaching dynamic. So and this is

985
00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:24,869
the other thing with my approach, and I'm

986
00:36:24,869 --> 00:36:26,390
not trying to make this standardized in the

987
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:28,230
church. It's up to you, your own revelation.

988
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:30,070
This is what I found to be super

989
00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:30,570
effective.

990
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:33,449
But when we talk about limited

991
00:36:34,085 --> 00:36:36,085
class time, like, how do we do twenty

992
00:36:36,085 --> 00:36:36,824
five minutes?

993
00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:39,625
When in reality, my elders quorum

994
00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:41,224
is more likes,

995
00:36:42,085 --> 00:36:44,085
I don't know, five hours long. Like, what

996
00:36:44,085 --> 00:36:46,085
do you mean it's five hours long? Because

997
00:36:46,085 --> 00:36:49,530
we've duplicated the discussion happening. Two people can

998
00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:51,530
comment at once because one's in one group

999
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:53,690
and one's in the other group. Right? So

1000
00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:55,849
if you need more time, then just split

1001
00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:57,930
up into into more groups and get the

1002
00:36:57,930 --> 00:37:00,570
discussion moving quicker. That way, if somebody wants

1003
00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:01,930
to make comment, they're like, oh, we got

1004
00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:04,181
ten minutes left. They're, you know, why even

1005
00:37:04,181 --> 00:37:06,574
raise my hand? There's not gonna be enough

1006
00:37:06,574 --> 00:37:09,265
time for me. Right? The so these small

1007
00:37:09,564 --> 00:37:12,555
more, focus groups, make that possible. So you

1008
00:37:12,555 --> 00:37:14,948
can either try it. It either works or

1009
00:37:14,948 --> 00:37:17,340
maybe someday, there'll be a new handbook paragraph

1010
00:37:17,340 --> 00:37:19,739
called the Kurt Frankem teaching style,

1011
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,960
you know, paragraph that says, do not listen

1012
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,440
to Kurt Frankem's idea of splitting up, you

1013
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,179
know. Anyways,

1014
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,019
it's just so effective. So effective, guys.

1015
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:31,980
Alright.

1016
00:37:32,675 --> 00:37:34,434
That's enough. I don't know. Is it enough

1017
00:37:34,434 --> 00:37:34,914
about,

1018
00:37:35,235 --> 00:37:37,074
the new teaching schedule? There's just so much

1019
00:37:37,074 --> 00:37:39,094
to consider, and there's gonna be more discussion

1020
00:37:39,315 --> 00:37:42,275
as September approaches. Feels like forever away. I

1021
00:37:42,275 --> 00:37:43,394
mean, we have to go through a whole

1022
00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:44,159
summer. Right?

1023
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,119
But, it'll be here before we know it.

1024
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:48,260
Some other things.

1025
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:51,920
One hour a month that is changing my

1026
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,159
relationship with the youth in our ward. K.

1027
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:55,059
This is cool.

1028
00:37:56,175 --> 00:37:58,094
So I love seeing these when people get

1029
00:37:58,094 --> 00:37:59,855
on. They don't just ask a question, though.

1030
00:37:59,855 --> 00:38:01,954
Please get on Zine Lab, ask a question.

1031
00:38:02,094 --> 00:38:04,755
Love to hear it. But here's, Grant Stuckey

1032
00:38:05,535 --> 00:38:06,755
who talks about,

1033
00:38:07,695 --> 00:38:09,454
says in his word, I've been doing something

1034
00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:11,760
that has been wonderful experience for our youth.

1035
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,300
We call it BYD,

1036
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:16,579
Bishop's Youth Council or sorry, Bishop's Youth Discussion.

1037
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,579
I think that's in the

1038
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,320
I wanna say that's in the handbook. Like,

1039
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
generally, it's encouraged. Right? On the second Sunday

1040
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,800
of every month, we invite the youth to

1041
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,980
our home for an informal discussion.

1042
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,644
I imagine many bishops are doing something similar,

1043
00:38:29,864 --> 00:38:31,644
and I would love to hear the details

1044
00:38:31,864 --> 00:38:34,664
and nuances of how others approach it so

1045
00:38:34,664 --> 00:38:37,065
we can continue refining the experience. I mean,

1046
00:38:37,065 --> 00:38:39,065
these I know this sounds like just a

1047
00:38:39,065 --> 00:38:41,224
simple paragraph, but it just I wanna weep

1048
00:38:41,224 --> 00:38:43,389
when I hear this stuff that together, we

1049
00:38:43,389 --> 00:38:45,550
have a place like Zion Lab to come

1050
00:38:45,550 --> 00:38:46,050
together

1051
00:38:46,510 --> 00:38:48,670
and refine and learn from one another, and

1052
00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:51,469
a bishop in Magna, Utah is gonna influence

1053
00:38:51,469 --> 00:38:52,610
a bishop in Massachusetts.

1054
00:38:53,309 --> 00:38:53,809
And

1055
00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:55,090
and

1056
00:38:56,534 --> 00:38:59,014
Zion's growing and building is just beautiful. So

1057
00:38:59,014 --> 00:39:00,855
this it's so fun to see this that

1058
00:39:00,855 --> 00:39:03,335
somebody sharing their experience but also asking what

1059
00:39:03,335 --> 00:39:05,914
others are doing. So about a week before

1060
00:39:06,214 --> 00:39:08,454
BYD, my wife and I sit down together

1061
00:39:08,454 --> 00:39:09,510
and talk about

1062
00:39:09,909 --> 00:39:12,309
what topics might be most helpful for the

1063
00:39:12,309 --> 00:39:14,809
youth right now. We ask ourselves questions like,

1064
00:39:14,869 --> 00:39:16,710
what do you feel the youth need to

1065
00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:19,190
to discuss as a group? What challenges are

1066
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:22,309
they facing lately? What gospel principles might strengthen

1067
00:39:22,309 --> 00:39:23,144
them right now?

1068
00:39:23,625 --> 00:39:25,945
Once we identify a topic, we start thinking

1069
00:39:25,945 --> 00:39:28,364
about how to present it in a way

1070
00:39:28,425 --> 00:39:31,144
that sparks discussion rather than just delivering a

1071
00:39:31,144 --> 00:39:31,644
lesson.

1072
00:39:31,945 --> 00:39:33,565
We ask questions such as

1073
00:39:33,864 --> 00:39:37,000
what questions could open meaningful conversation? Is there

1074
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,519
a short video clip, photo, or quote that

1075
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,340
could introduce the topic? Is there an objective

1076
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:45,440
lesson that might help principles? Right? He goes

1077
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,719
on and on. I haven't even read a

1078
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,980
quarter of of what he talks about. But,

1079
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:50,019
man,

1080
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,275
for a bit I'm just man, I feel

1081
00:39:53,275 --> 00:39:55,434
kinda robbed. My time as bishop, I didn't

1082
00:39:55,434 --> 00:39:56,175
have this.

1083
00:39:56,635 --> 00:39:57,135
Right?

1084
00:39:57,594 --> 00:39:59,114
I didn't have many youth in my ward,

1085
00:39:59,114 --> 00:40:01,275
but I was in inner city ward. It

1086
00:40:01,275 --> 00:40:02,014
was an

1087
00:40:02,315 --> 00:40:03,454
a trip for sure.

1088
00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:04,655
The AI

1089
00:40:04,954 --> 00:40:07,135
conversation summary says the comments reflect

1090
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,159
strong support and appreciation for the Bishop's youth

1091
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:11,300
discussion initiative,

1092
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,400
highlights its positive impact on youth engagement and

1093
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,900
relationship.

1094
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:15,940
Contributors

1095
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,800
share their own experience and ideas for fostering

1096
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,019
meaningful youth discussion,

1097
00:40:20,635 --> 00:40:24,155
emphasizing the importance of safe space spaces, involvement

1098
00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:24,815
of bishopric,

1099
00:40:25,195 --> 00:40:27,775
thoughtful topic selections. Practical considerations

1100
00:40:28,394 --> 00:40:30,875
such as meeting frequency and timing are also

1101
00:40:30,875 --> 00:40:32,494
discussed to optimize participation.

1102
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:35,929
You guys, this is so cool. And I'll

1103
00:40:35,929 --> 00:40:37,369
just tease you with the rest,

1104
00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:39,550
some others that were really popular.

1105
00:40:41,289 --> 00:40:42,989
Is your elders quorum and recidi

1106
00:40:43,690 --> 00:40:44,190
psychologically

1107
00:40:44,489 --> 00:40:46,969
safe? This is actually a throwback article that

1108
00:40:46,969 --> 00:40:48,675
Ryan Godfrey sent in red. Man,

1109
00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:51,554
This is it should be required reading. We

1110
00:40:51,635 --> 00:40:53,554
all of our podcast episodes are in here.

1111
00:40:53,554 --> 00:40:55,394
Right? So if you have a question that

1112
00:40:55,394 --> 00:40:57,635
was talked about in a specific podcast, the

1113
00:40:57,635 --> 00:40:59,655
clerk the AI clerk is gonna

1114
00:40:59,954 --> 00:41:01,715
pick up on that through the transcript and

1115
00:41:01,715 --> 00:41:03,494
and point you towards this. So

1116
00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:04,375
so

1117
00:41:04,809 --> 00:41:05,309
valuable.

1118
00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:09,469
There's even this one.

1119
00:41:09,849 --> 00:41:11,049
Let me see if this is an old

1120
00:41:11,049 --> 00:41:11,549
one.

1121
00:41:15,289 --> 00:41:16,010
It is

1122
00:41:16,409 --> 00:41:19,529
oh, yeah. Someone posted general conference predictions and

1123
00:41:19,529 --> 00:41:20,269
wish lists.

1124
00:41:20,744 --> 00:41:23,304
So just fun everything from fun conversation to

1125
00:41:23,304 --> 00:41:25,804
really practical conversation to spiritual conversation

1126
00:41:26,105 --> 00:41:27,484
to inspirational conversation.

1127
00:41:28,264 --> 00:41:30,824
So I'll cut it off there. And, and

1128
00:41:30,824 --> 00:41:32,424
let me make let me be clear here

1129
00:41:32,424 --> 00:41:35,260
as far as, like, becoming a Zion builder,

1130
00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:37,819
like, that $15 a month goes to us

1131
00:41:37,819 --> 00:41:38,319
continuing

1132
00:41:39,099 --> 00:41:41,179
our efforts, with Leading Saints. And I made

1133
00:41:41,179 --> 00:41:42,699
a video at the end of last year

1134
00:41:42,699 --> 00:41:43,920
of 2025,

1135
00:41:44,619 --> 00:41:47,574
lending you we've had some funding shortfall. So

1136
00:41:47,574 --> 00:41:48,934
even if you're like, you know, like, girl,

1137
00:41:48,934 --> 00:41:50,695
I don't have time to get into Zion

1138
00:41:50,695 --> 00:41:52,135
Lab. I don't have time to read these

1139
00:41:52,135 --> 00:41:54,635
comments. Even if AI summarizes them,

1140
00:41:54,934 --> 00:41:57,494
would you still please become a Zion Builder

1141
00:41:57,494 --> 00:41:59,815
so that, because we haven't we're we're not

1142
00:41:59,815 --> 00:42:02,554
out of the woods, with this funding shortfall.

1143
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:03,960
And so,

1144
00:42:05,699 --> 00:42:07,380
we could really use your help, and we

1145
00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:09,480
have some plans coming. Maybe

1146
00:42:09,860 --> 00:42:11,619
in the next few weeks, you should hear

1147
00:42:11,619 --> 00:42:12,739
about it, but we are,

1148
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:15,640
we're getting back into the virtual summit,

1149
00:42:16,099 --> 00:42:19,155
business as far as getting some great online

1150
00:42:19,214 --> 00:42:20,194
conference content

1151
00:42:20,494 --> 00:42:22,894
and bringing in experts and doing deep dives

1152
00:42:22,894 --> 00:42:25,795
on topics like helping individuals overcome pornography,

1153
00:42:26,094 --> 00:42:29,534
to mental health, to helping individuals through, who

1154
00:42:29,614 --> 00:42:31,074
who've questioned their faith,

1155
00:42:31,739 --> 00:42:33,900
to teaching, and, man, there's so many. I

1156
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:36,059
wanna do a whole AI virtual summit. That'd

1157
00:42:36,059 --> 00:42:36,960
be so cool

1158
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,519
to really dig into how can we leverage

1159
00:42:39,659 --> 00:42:41,360
AI in appropriate way,

1160
00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:43,980
to enhance our leadership, to enhance our teaching,

1161
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:46,619
to enhance our culture experience at church. Right?

1162
00:42:46,619 --> 00:42:49,075
So please become a Zion builder. And, seriously,

1163
00:42:49,075 --> 00:42:49,894
if you can't

1164
00:42:50,195 --> 00:42:50,914
if you can't,

1165
00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:53,494
put together that 15 a month,

1166
00:42:53,795 --> 00:42:56,035
please just take a sponsorship. It's at the

1167
00:42:56,035 --> 00:42:57,735
bottom of that page to upgrade,

1168
00:42:58,195 --> 00:43:00,355
and just do it. Like, we want as

1169
00:43:00,355 --> 00:43:03,210
many people in this and benefiting it. This

1170
00:43:03,369 --> 00:43:03,869
content,

1171
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:06,589
just ones and zeros on some server somewhere

1172
00:43:06,809 --> 00:43:08,889
unless we are engaging with it and using

1173
00:43:08,889 --> 00:43:10,969
it and asking questions and and doing it.

1174
00:43:10,969 --> 00:43:12,349
And so we wanna make

1175
00:43:12,889 --> 00:43:13,710
your job

1176
00:43:14,010 --> 00:43:16,409
as a church leader, as a Zion builder,

1177
00:43:16,409 --> 00:43:18,429
as a Latter day Saint, just

1178
00:43:18,735 --> 00:43:21,615
so easy. And to do it not just

1179
00:43:21,615 --> 00:43:23,615
so that it's easier, but it's that it's

1180
00:43:23,615 --> 00:43:24,675
done in community.

1181
00:43:25,295 --> 00:43:27,135
You feel like you know some other saints

1182
00:43:27,135 --> 00:43:28,974
across the world and you're in this together.

1183
00:43:28,974 --> 00:43:31,295
We're building Zion. It is so cool. It

1184
00:43:31,295 --> 00:43:33,135
is so cool to build Zion because there

1185
00:43:33,135 --> 00:43:35,590
are people everywhere in the church that are

1186
00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:38,070
going in the temples, making that fifth covenant,

1187
00:43:38,070 --> 00:43:40,389
the law of consecration, dedicate your time, talents,

1188
00:43:40,389 --> 00:43:42,250
and everything that the Lord has given you

1189
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:44,630
for the building up of the church of

1190
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:45,769
Jesus Christ. And

1191
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:48,070
a lot of us think, like, well, I

1192
00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:49,750
don't know even where to start with that

1193
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:52,244
or, I'm the activities day leader. Isn't that

1194
00:43:52,244 --> 00:43:54,565
good enough? Or no. But so many are

1195
00:43:54,565 --> 00:43:55,704
feeling this internal

1196
00:43:56,405 --> 00:43:58,824
revelation, this inspiration, this invitation

1197
00:43:59,364 --> 00:44:02,085
to say, hey. We need you to to

1198
00:44:02,085 --> 00:44:04,079
build Zion, and I have have a way

1199
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,420
for you to do it. And Zion Lab

1200
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:07,940
provides the community

1201
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,420
the support to do it in. And so

1202
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
join us on the on the front lines

1203
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,280
of building Zion. It's so cool. So please

1204
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,599
reach out to me directly. The best way

1205
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,614
to reach me, seriously, it's as good as

1206
00:44:19,614 --> 00:44:21,875
texting me, is to go in DesignLab

1207
00:44:22,335 --> 00:44:24,414
and send me a DM, and it comes

1208
00:44:24,414 --> 00:44:26,414
right to my phone. My phone buzzes, and

1209
00:44:26,414 --> 00:44:28,255
I see it. And unless I'm on you

1210
00:44:28,255 --> 00:44:30,815
know, busy with something else, I'll I'll respond

1211
00:44:30,815 --> 00:44:32,574
pretty quick. So at least at least within

1212
00:44:32,574 --> 00:44:34,090
the day. So I do have a life.

1213
00:44:34,090 --> 00:44:35,949
But thanks everybody for joining.

1214
00:44:37,130 --> 00:44:40,329
Please jump into the resources here and benefit

1215
00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:42,650
from them. We'd love to see you in

1216
00:44:42,650 --> 00:44:43,710
Zion Lab.