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So my name is Kurt Frankem and I

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am the founder and executive director of Leading

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Saints and obviously the host of the Leading

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Saints podcast. Now I started Leading Saints back

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in 2010.

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It was just a hobby blog

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and it grew from there by the time,

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came around. We started the podcast and that's

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really when it got some,

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traction and took off, 2016.

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We became a five zero one c three

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nonprofit organization and we've been growing ever since.

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And now I get the opportunity of interviewing

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and talking with remarkable people all over the

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world.

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Now this is a segment we do on

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the Leading Saints podcast called How I Lead,

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and we reach out to everyday leaders. They're

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not experts, gurus, authors,

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PhDs. They're just everyday leaders who've been asked

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to serve in a specific leadership calling, and

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we simply ask them, how is it that

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you lead? And they go through some remarkable

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principles that should be in a book, that

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should be behind a PhD. They're usually that

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good, and, we just talk about, sharing what

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the other guy is doing. And I remember

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being a leader just simply wanting to know,

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okay. I know what I'm trying to do,

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but what's the other guy doing? What's working

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for him? And so that's why every Wednesday

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or so, we publish these how I lead

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segments

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I'm not gonna ask you straight up. Does

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your elders quorum have a service

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coordinator?

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I mean, I bet your relief society has

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a compassionate service coordinator,

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but does your elders quorum have the service

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coordinator? This is a handbook calling and there's

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so many ways that this can really shift

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the culture in your ward to be more

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service oriented.

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And I brought in just the guy to

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talk about this. His name is Ajax Trueblood.

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had this role in two different wards in

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different areas of Utah. And, this is gonna

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be applicable for every elders quorum out there.

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I know service and organization

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and needs may look different word to word,

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stake to stake, state to state.

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enhance our our culture and our ward and

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make it a place where everybody can give

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and really be sanctified

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by these opportunities of discipleship to step up

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and serve. And how does he do this?

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How does he motivate people? How does he,

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find the service assignments? Is it just move

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ins that he's focused on? Well, we answer

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all these questions, and he's got great answers.

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So let's jump into it. Here's my interview

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with Ajax Trueblood

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teaching us on being a elders quorum service

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Alright. Today, I have the opportunity to chat

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with Ajax Trueblood.

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Where where does a name like that come

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from? Is it a common truth? Trueblood is

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a real name that comes from old English

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Quakers.

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Ajax is my Air Force call sign. Oh,

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nice. So I, my my real official name

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is Roger, but, only the IRS and the

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spam callers call me Roger.

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yeah, I've been going by Ajax for a

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long time now. And how do you earn

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such a name? And Oh, it's a long

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dark history, and Okay. I might have to

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kill you if I had told you.

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Well, hey. That's nice. We'll get into that.

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We're gonna have service.

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So No. I wouldn't kill you. I'd let's

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just tousle your hair a little bit. Okay.

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So I heard, I I shared another interview

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you did over at Salty Saints around this

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concept of a service coordinator. And, where's where's

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a good place to start with this? Is

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this a handbook calling?

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Absolutely. It is. I didn't know that when

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I've been doing this now in two different

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I I think it's the best calling in

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the church.

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I I think that selfless service is the

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center of the gospel.

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And I could quote all kinds of scriptures.

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Mosiah, bear one another's burdens. That's the one

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that means the most to me. But, of

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course, charity, you know, never faileth and that

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kind of stuff. So it just seems to

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at the at the essence, at the core

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of the gospel that Jesus Christ taught,

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it's to reach out to others, help them,

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serve them.

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I think often it gets lost in all

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the other things that we do.

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So for several years now, I've been pretty

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passionate about this

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and trying to magnify

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my calling

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as much as possible.

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it for a while that I actually started,

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you know, looking at the manual.

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And there there isn't much there. There's not

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much there. That's in section eight for elders

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and,

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now I can't remember what the I think

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it's 8503.

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core presidencies

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can call

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a service coordinator,

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to help people. That that means very it's

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it's like two a sentence

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And and an assistant if so desired.

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you're currently in Southern Utah and Saint George,

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Ohio. In Saint George in the Green Valley

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Okay. And then before, you served in this

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calling up, in the

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The Vineyard, which was, at the time, the

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fastest growing community in The United States. We

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with the ward split twice. I was there

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for two years. The ward split twice. At

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one point, it was up to 1,200 people.

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we had move ins constantly,

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like, three times a week, three you know,

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sometimes simultaneous moves. So,

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it was a younger ward.

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I reached out

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the the guys that I knew that were

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willing, and we created

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when I say created, I mean, basically, I

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just gave it a a name that I

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thought was catchy. Called it the QRF,

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like, the quick reaction force. So so I

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basically went to the elders corps president and

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say, hey.

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You need somebody to take care of this,

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so let me do this. And he said,

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yeah. It'd be great. He's a great elders

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corps president to work with, and, we

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we went to town. And,

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finding the people that wanted to do it

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instead of making an assignment.

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Yeah. Instead of saying, okay. You, you, you,

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and you, you're gonna be the ones.

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So I I just asked for volunteers.

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So it wasn't it wasn't that they the

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eligible president approached you with this calling, and

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you then had to figure it out. You

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saw a need for a lot of service

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opportunities and said you're gonna spearhead this and

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organize it. I had been in the elder

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in the, the young men's presidency, and then,

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we got released. And then, I I was

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like, okay. I gotta do something. So,

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I already knew the elders quorum president pretty

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well and said, hey. What what about this?

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Why don't you have me do this? I

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didn't know there was such a thing in

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the in the manual. Yeah. And,

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but then then later, I found out, and

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I go, oh, yeah. That's it. That's just

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called the service coordinator.

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Yeah. And so was it primarily, like, move

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ins that you were seeing or move in

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move ins? Up in up in Vineyard, it

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was mostly move ins. There were a few

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other,

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people that needed particular help that, you know,

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building shelves in their garage or something like

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that,

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for a single sister.

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But, yeah, primarily, it was move ins.

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Nice. Nice. And

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and then that, led into some other service

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opportunities from there? Well, then we moved we

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sold that house and moved down here to

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Saint George. And I I've been,

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I would basically say I'm from Saint George.

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I moved here when I was a teenager

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and have we've been here for a long

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time and then out and back and out

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and back. So Saint George is is my

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home. I've got family here.

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when we moved into this ward,

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I kinda kind of

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I I was patient for a while

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and said, you know I thought finally, I

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said, you guys aren't really using me. What

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what if I, you know, what if I

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took on this service coordinator thing? And that

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and the telescore presence said, okay. Yeah. That's

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a good idea. So let's do that. Nice.

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He he basically thought I could just help

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with the moves,

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But, It's gonna default where we default. Right?

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Right. Right. And that's, that is something we

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could talk about is the the standard

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elders quorum service that, most guys think about

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is, yeah, moving pianos and washers and dryers.

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and so there's some people that look kinda

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look down on that. Oh, I hate that.

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I did that I did that in my

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thirties.

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Done with that. You know? Yeah. That's one

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one

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aspect that people Well, let's just talk about

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moving,

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for for a moment here is because oftentimes,

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there's this feeling of,

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you know, just sort of the the role

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of the elders quorum to lift heavy things

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and to help members move in. But at

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the same time, it that you know, moving

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people moving furniture is actually quite dangerous. You

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know, I've heard people mess up their knees,

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you know, really have serious injuries

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with with moving. So it is kind of

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it's one thing to serve, like, at the

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at the cannery, but a whole another thing

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when you're you're moving. Yeah. Before we I'd

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I'd say before we get into the nitty

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gritty of that, I mean, we could probably

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do a whole hour on

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techniques and management of moves. But,

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yeah, there's this

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yeah. That's what elders do is lift lift

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things. Yeah. But I I I believe there's

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so much more to it. So,

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the actual, you know, spirit of service and

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reaching out, finding opportunities,

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finding people that need things,

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it can be as simple

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as taking over a bowl of soup or

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some bread or something,

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a much more

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emotional connection than moving somebody's piano or their

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couch. Right.

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So I I've been trying to magnify that,

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and I found ways to

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to do that in in other ways besides

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moving. Now we still do move ins and

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move outs. We still do that regularly,

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but it's not the only thing we do.

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And I'm I'm always on the lookout for

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other opportunities and ways to to serve people,

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and,

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really, it's a it's another way of ministering.

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So, I mean but but the moves can

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be such that they can sort of be

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the most demanding,

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activity. Right? And so maybe just talk to

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me. How did you how did you organize

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that? If somebody's moving in or reaching out

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or yeah. Let me, let me just mention

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that there's two documents that you already have

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loaded up on the what do you call

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that? Your community on the In in Zion

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Lab. Yep. We've built In the Zion Lab

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in the elders quorum section. Correct? Yep. So

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there's two two documents there

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that I kinda use as as my,

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operating instructions.

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One is called the,

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the movers and shakers squad,

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which is what I call our group.

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And then, the other one's on Soup Patrol.

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So

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we'll talk about Movers and Shakers first. So

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Let's do that. When we when we,

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came here, instead of calling it the QRF,

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I called it the Movers and Shakers squad

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or the M and S, which also

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corresponds

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to ministry and service. Right? Mhmm. So we

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just call it the M and S list

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or the M and S squad.

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And, again, it's the volunteers that say, yes.

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I wanna be on that list. I wanna

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be

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give me the opportunities to serve.

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The other thing we there's a basic operating

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principle that we use as small groups. We

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don't do the

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the mass gaggle approach of the you know,

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just send out an email to the whole

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quorum and then see who shows up. And

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there's 12 guys, and there's really two guys

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that unload the truck, and everybody else is

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kinda

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standing around. And that frankly, that's what you

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talked about physically dangerous. I the more people

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that are there that are not

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actively, you know, moving things Yeah. Those actually

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increases the the risk of things happening. Somebody,

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you know, getting their

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their knee hit or their, you know, fingers

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pinched or something like that or tripping with

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holding a heavy thing. So we we try

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to work in small teams.

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Team leader is is,

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designated for each project.

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Sometimes I'm the team leader. Sometimes other people

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are the team leader.

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There's not

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in the other interview, they kinda misinterpreted it

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like it was some kind of hierarchical

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like, there's me, and then I got six

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team leaders, and then they got their peep

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no. It's not like that. It's just we're

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all together.

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And then for different projects that come up,

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if there if there's more than two guys,

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I'll

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I'll just ask one person to be the

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on scene team leader so he can kinda

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make the on scene decisions. And that changes

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from service assignment to service assignment. Yeah. There's

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I mean, there's,

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the other the other thing that came up,

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last time was, well, how do you designate

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these guys? How do you find these guys?

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And I said, well, you probably already know

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who they are. Any elders quorum presidency probably

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knows who they're

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their most,

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willing, most most active members are. And the

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ones that have

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that are, you know, able to lift things

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and do things and willing and, you know,

397
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don't don't,

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watch TV all day.

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They're the ones that are the natural

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beginnings of this, but then you start to

401
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recruit. You start to to grow it.

402
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And word gets around. People move in, and

403
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then either you help them move and they

404
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go, oh, that's great. You know? And they'll

405
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say, okay. Would you like to help others?

406
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And they say, oh, absolutely.

407
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So today, we have about,

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I'd say maybe 30 to 35 people. I

409
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think I underestimated last time.

410
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And I do everything

411
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most of my work is on the phone,

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on text messages.

413
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Mhmm. Almost everything I do is coordinating just

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with texts.

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And

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so,

417
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you know, you're sending out opportunities.

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Yeah. So you get word that the Joneses

419
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are moving in, and then you'll approach a

420
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specific individual, maybe hasn't, been the the the

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lead on any the sign off the list.

422
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First, I'll send out to the list. I

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actually maintain three lists,

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because I don't I I tried to keep

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those lists,

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you know, so they don't get unwieldly.

427
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So, I'll send out, you know, hey. I

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need I need, three let's say I already

429
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know I'm going, so I need three more

430
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guys. You know, we're gonna unload a U

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Haul truck.

432
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I need three guys

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on Saturday at 8AM.

434
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This you know, we're unloading a new member,

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who can help. I mean, it's something very

436
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short.

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And then I also have a kind of

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an ongoing

439
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guidance that,

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positive responses only, please. I don't I don't

441
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need to hear why you can't come.

442
00:16:04,110 --> 00:16:06,529
You know, that just Yeah. It,

443
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it just junks up the system.

444
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Because there's many reasons why people can't. There's

445
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and good reasons. There's nothing wrong with with

446
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not being able to come, but you don't

447
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need to make an excuse for yourself. Just

448
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And so that message goes out to the

449
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entire core. The the message goes out to

450
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those three lists. And then

451
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within within I mean, our we're kind of

452
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so forward leaning at this point that often

453
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I get I get those first two or

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three responses within

455
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minutes or an hour. Mhmm. You know? Oh,

456
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yeah. I can do it. You know? Somebody

457
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will say, hey. I can't be there till

458
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05:30. Can we do it at or or

459
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till 08:30? Can we do it at 08:30?

460
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So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. You know? So

461
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then we then we just split that off,

462
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into the team lead and the three other

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guys and the people that are moving in,

464
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and I'll make a new text group for

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them Gotcha. And say, okay. Coordinate

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the details among yourselves. Yeah. And and sometimes

467
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they'll ask me a question. What was the

468
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address again? And I'll fill it. But I

469
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we don't we don't stay on the main

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group and keep cycling through, so that actually

471
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keeps the chatter down.

472
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I mean, that's that's kinda nuts and bolts

473
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technique, but,

474
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you know, I'm not sure what you do.

475
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These three lists that you have? What identifies

476
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I just call it MS one, MS two,

477
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and MS three. The third one is actually,

478
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for young men leaders.

479
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So the first two are just my regular

480
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I'll call them regular Joe's in the oldest

481
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quorum.

482
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And,

483
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and I just split that in two because,

484
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I I don't wanna you know, I don't

485
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want too big of a group. The third

486
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one is for the young men leaders, and

487
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and they're

488
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often not often. Sometimes they'll they'll pitch in,

489
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and sometimes, occasionally,

490
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they'll say, hey. The the young men would

491
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like to make this a service. Let's say

492
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it's, you know,

493
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trimming bushes in in widow Jones's yard. You

494
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know? They'll say, oh, yeah. We could take

495
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that on for the teacher's corps.

496
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So Yeah. Yeah. Trying to work the young

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men in is a is a ongoing

498
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effort that I've had. There are some logistical

499
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difficulties since I don't have their the young

500
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men's phone numbers directly.

501
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Mhmm. I go through the leaders.

502
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So you'll first send out a blast to

503
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that first list and see how many you

504
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get, and then No. I go to all

505
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three simultaneously.

506
00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,960
Okay. Not simultaneously. Yeah. You hit them boom.

507
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Boom. Boom. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And I

508
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make sure that I have to manage those

509
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lists to make sure people aren't on them

510
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through, you know, different lists. And as people

511
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move, I have to

512
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reset it and Yeah. Gotcha.

513
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But, yeah, those those those lists are essentially

514
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the the

515
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the guts of the system, if you will.

516
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Yeah. Keeping who's on the list, who wants

517
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to get the opportunities, and and the people

518
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that are on it are now pretty well

519
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used to getting

520
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you know,

521
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several times a week, they're gonna get something.

522
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I need somebody like, we're working tonight on

523
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setting up chairs at the for the trunk

524
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or treat. Uh-huh.

525
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Let let me make a point on that.

526
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Yeah.

527
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The setting up of chairs

528
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and the the typical, you know, classroom setup

529
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and I

530
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personally, I don't consider that

531
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service.

532
00:19:11,934 --> 00:19:13,234
That's kinda like just

533
00:19:13,779 --> 00:19:15,940
maintenance. It's running the ward. Right? Sometimes I

534
00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:17,779
call it the self licking ice cream cone.

535
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It's like, we're helping ourselves. Right? Uh-huh. So

536
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I typically

537
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in in the in the Vineyard Ward, I

538
00:19:24,259 --> 00:19:24,759
actually

539
00:19:25,059 --> 00:19:26,740
kinda put my foot down and said, hey.

540
00:19:26,740 --> 00:19:28,440
Don't send me those kind of assignments,

541
00:19:30,044 --> 00:19:32,125
to to work with my QRF. That that's

542
00:19:32,125 --> 00:19:33,105
not what we do.

543
00:19:33,565 --> 00:19:35,484
And I don't know. I felt I didn't

544
00:19:35,484 --> 00:19:37,005
feel like that went over so well. So

545
00:19:37,005 --> 00:19:39,005
I I accept those from my current elders

546
00:19:39,005 --> 00:19:41,724
quorum president, and he'll send me those. And

547
00:19:41,724 --> 00:19:43,289
I take them on, but I don't It's

548
00:19:43,289 --> 00:19:44,809
not what I focus on. That's not what

549
00:19:44,809 --> 00:19:45,470
we're really

550
00:19:46,009 --> 00:19:48,250
we're not really about setting up chairs and

551
00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:48,750
tables

552
00:19:49,289 --> 00:19:50,190
for the next

553
00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:53,130
activity or whatever. We'll do it. Funerals, we

554
00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:54,350
get involved in funerals,

555
00:19:54,890 --> 00:19:58,075
but there's kinda other mechanisms for that. Yeah.

556
00:19:58,615 --> 00:20:01,335
So we're we're focused on just helping people

557
00:20:01,335 --> 00:20:03,575
that need help. And it doesn't have to

558
00:20:03,575 --> 00:20:04,075
be,

559
00:20:04,775 --> 00:20:06,375
members. It doesn't have to be active members.

560
00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:07,654
It doesn't even have to be in the

561
00:20:07,654 --> 00:20:08,474
ward boundaries.

562
00:20:08,934 --> 00:20:11,595
We've had some projects outside our boundaries.

563
00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:14,369
Got helping somebody either move

564
00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:16,509
from a different place into our

565
00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:18,590
you know, go and pick their stuff up

566
00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:20,349
and bring it in, or in a couple

567
00:20:20,349 --> 00:20:22,509
times, just another ward needed help. And I

568
00:20:22,509 --> 00:20:24,750
asked around, say, hey. You know? Who can

569
00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:27,164
help out the the 7th Ward? You know?

570
00:20:27,164 --> 00:20:29,404
They need they're in a pinch. They need

571
00:20:29,404 --> 00:20:31,484
a couple guys who can help. Yeah. So

572
00:20:31,484 --> 00:20:33,825
it's not just 3rd Ward. It's

573
00:20:34,444 --> 00:20:36,625
so to me, it's like our whole area.

574
00:20:37,005 --> 00:20:38,609
Does that make sense? And then once you

575
00:20:38,609 --> 00:20:40,529
get, you know, people saying, hey. I can

576
00:20:40,529 --> 00:20:41,970
help. Then out of that group, you pick

577
00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:43,349
someone to sort of lead out?

578
00:20:43,809 --> 00:20:46,869
Yeah. I'll I'll ask them. They'll just send

579
00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:49,410
sometimes just the first guy that steps up.

580
00:20:49,410 --> 00:20:50,769
But I, you know, I know all these

581
00:20:50,769 --> 00:20:52,695
guys, so I I know who's who's got

582
00:20:52,695 --> 00:20:55,595
the So what's the the lead's general responsibility?

583
00:20:56,454 --> 00:20:57,674
It's pretty loose.

584
00:20:58,294 --> 00:20:58,794
And,

585
00:20:59,654 --> 00:21:01,894
you know, I'm I'm ex military, so I

586
00:21:01,894 --> 00:21:04,075
have I have my own version of

587
00:21:05,170 --> 00:21:07,570
how a leader should behave. Yeah. And it

588
00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:09,410
might be a little more a little more

589
00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:12,529
energetic than other people's. But, basically, I just

590
00:21:12,529 --> 00:21:14,529
want I wanna hand that off and go,

591
00:21:14,529 --> 00:21:16,549
okay. If there's any last minute details,

592
00:21:18,795 --> 00:21:20,795
Kurt, you're the you you're the one that

593
00:21:20,795 --> 00:21:21,615
works out,

594
00:21:22,715 --> 00:21:23,535
the last

595
00:21:24,795 --> 00:21:26,414
the last few details.

596
00:21:26,955 --> 00:21:27,434
Yeah.

597
00:21:28,154 --> 00:21:30,154
When does the truck show up? You know?

598
00:21:30,154 --> 00:21:31,295
If there's a delay,

599
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:34,149
that's up to you to let your team

600
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:34,649
know.

601
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:37,389
Yeah. And, like, on a move, that person

602
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:39,750
that's what you have a piano dolly. You

603
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:41,109
know? And and, you know, oh, do do

604
00:21:41,109 --> 00:21:43,210
you guys have a piano dolly? You know?

605
00:21:43,269 --> 00:21:45,194
Yeah. So when that that person, you know,

606
00:21:45,194 --> 00:21:46,554
have the phone number to the family, they're

607
00:21:46,554 --> 00:21:48,234
moving and Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I

608
00:21:48,234 --> 00:21:50,234
try to put the put the family into

609
00:21:50,234 --> 00:21:50,894
the group.

610
00:21:51,355 --> 00:21:53,914
Yeah. So when I pull off pull off

611
00:21:53,914 --> 00:21:56,634
the the project group, the team group for,

612
00:21:56,634 --> 00:21:58,394
you know, Kurt and I'm gonna go through

613
00:21:58,394 --> 00:22:00,930
these names. Kurt and Steve and David and

614
00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:01,430
Anden,

615
00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:04,150
you guys are all going to the Jones',

616
00:22:04,450 --> 00:22:06,070
you know, on Saturday morning.

617
00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:09,269
So I'll make a group,

618
00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:11,570
and then I'll plug in the fan the

619
00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:14,549
Jones family, pro probably brother and sister Jones.

620
00:22:15,154 --> 00:22:17,734
Yeah. Whoever's driving the truck for sure.

621
00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:20,355
And then, puts you all in there. So

622
00:22:20,355 --> 00:22:22,375
on Friday, you're talking to each other.

623
00:22:22,835 --> 00:22:25,394
And if there's gonna be a delay or

624
00:22:25,394 --> 00:22:27,234
the Joneses say, oh, we couldn't get a

625
00:22:27,234 --> 00:22:28,774
U Haul truck after all.

626
00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:31,420
We're gonna be there at ten instead of

627
00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:33,740
eight. You know? You guys handle that. Yeah.

628
00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:34,400
Makes sense.

629
00:22:34,859 --> 00:22:37,660
So outside of moving assignments, like, what are

630
00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:38,400
some typical,

631
00:22:39,179 --> 00:22:40,994
service opportunities you get?

632
00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:44,535
Let's not forget to talk about Supertrol.

633
00:22:44,914 --> 00:22:47,414
Okay. That's a little kind of a sideline,

634
00:22:47,474 --> 00:22:47,795
but,

635
00:22:48,275 --> 00:22:49,335
it's it's related.

636
00:22:50,355 --> 00:22:52,535
And it's it answers part of that question.

637
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,160
A lot of yard work kinda thing. We

638
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,000
have we're an older ward, so we have

639
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,380
a lot of elderly people,

640
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,420
retired, a lot of, single sisters,

641
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,619
a lot of people with chronic health conditions.

642
00:23:05,835 --> 00:23:06,335
So,

643
00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:08,154
there is,

644
00:23:09,515 --> 00:23:10,894
usually, somebody needs

645
00:23:11,515 --> 00:23:13,454
a garage. You know, they got

646
00:23:13,755 --> 00:23:15,355
heavy things they need to get up on

647
00:23:15,355 --> 00:23:16,015
the shelves.

648
00:23:17,115 --> 00:23:19,595
Sometimes they wanna, you know, donate things. Oh,

649
00:23:19,595 --> 00:23:20,095
can

650
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,200
we can somebody take this washer and dryer

651
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,940
and and take it to DI or whatever?

652
00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:28,900
There have been a few

653
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,619
kind of longer term garage cleanup,

654
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:33,859
projects.

655
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:34,900
Mhmm.

656
00:23:36,794 --> 00:23:38,794
I I mentioned building shelves for something that

657
00:23:38,794 --> 00:23:40,335
we've done that a couple times.

658
00:23:42,234 --> 00:23:42,734
Recently,

659
00:23:43,674 --> 00:23:45,214
a pretty inactive member,

660
00:23:45,515 --> 00:23:47,755
wanted help with his his lawn that was

661
00:23:47,755 --> 00:23:48,494
pretty wrecked,

662
00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:51,950
and, so we kinda mobilized for that. Some

663
00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:54,190
guys went over on a Saturday and kinda

664
00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:56,349
cleaned up his yard. He was very appreciative

665
00:23:56,349 --> 00:23:58,190
and came to some got it got him

666
00:23:58,190 --> 00:24:01,009
to church after a long time, but and,

667
00:24:01,390 --> 00:24:02,369
of not going.

668
00:24:02,744 --> 00:24:03,244
A

669
00:24:03,704 --> 00:24:06,184
lot of these things are are ongoing. They're

670
00:24:06,184 --> 00:24:06,924
not just,

671
00:24:07,545 --> 00:24:08,924
you know, once and done.

672
00:24:11,065 --> 00:24:13,144
What I have found, and it's kind of

673
00:24:13,144 --> 00:24:14,744
obvious if you think about it, is any

674
00:24:14,744 --> 00:24:17,384
kind of service is a bridge to more

675
00:24:17,384 --> 00:24:17,884
fellowship,

676
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:21,130
missionary work. By the way, I have the

677
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:23,670
the elders on my they're one of the

678
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:26,089
on one of the lists. So they regularly

679
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:26,730
get,

680
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:29,429
oh, we need, you know, we need some

681
00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:31,269
a couple of guys. And sometimes, if they're

682
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:33,605
not busy, they'll come and help. But, also,

683
00:24:33,664 --> 00:24:35,744
I've let them know that we're a resource

684
00:24:35,744 --> 00:24:36,325
for them.

685
00:24:36,704 --> 00:24:39,825
So regardless of of where their investigator is,

686
00:24:39,825 --> 00:24:41,585
if an investigator all of a sudden needs

687
00:24:41,585 --> 00:24:42,244
some help,

688
00:24:43,105 --> 00:24:45,664
let me know, and I'll I'll scramble to

689
00:24:45,664 --> 00:24:46,079
help.

690
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,880
And, we'll get some people out. We've given

691
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,019
rides, and we've,

692
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,159
you know, just done basic basic cleanup type

693
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:54,659
stuff.

694
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,380
So there's there's fellowship opportunities,

695
00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:00,899
ministry opportunities.

696
00:25:01,994 --> 00:25:04,654
I I need to talk about the overlap

697
00:25:04,795 --> 00:25:06,255
between the ministering brothers

698
00:25:06,875 --> 00:25:08,954
and the the m and s list. So

699
00:25:08,954 --> 00:25:11,115
don't let me forget that. Sure. But,

700
00:25:11,595 --> 00:25:12,414
young men,

701
00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:15,214
release cooperation with the release society.

702
00:25:15,569 --> 00:25:17,029
I mean, this service

703
00:25:17,569 --> 00:25:20,289
thread runs in many directions and can can

704
00:25:20,289 --> 00:25:20,789
benefit

705
00:25:21,649 --> 00:25:24,630
all kinds of other efforts and and amplify

706
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:27,569
them. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yep. So,

707
00:25:27,889 --> 00:25:29,265
explain what Supertrol is.

708
00:25:30,384 --> 00:25:32,724
So Soupatrol is an outgrowth of,

709
00:25:33,345 --> 00:25:35,184
one of my good friends who has since

710
00:25:35,184 --> 00:25:36,005
passed away,

711
00:25:36,545 --> 00:25:39,184
Rob Dunlap, who brought me some soup while

712
00:25:39,184 --> 00:25:41,204
I was suffering from COVID back in,

713
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,080
I can't remember what year. But, anyway, it

714
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,859
was going on. Somewhere in there.

715
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720
I was not feeling happy. And he just

716
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,720
came over, brought me some some hot chicken

717
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,820
soup. It was great homemade. It was great.

718
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,494
And the it was the best thing about

719
00:25:55,494 --> 00:25:57,515
it was he came to my house and

720
00:25:57,894 --> 00:25:58,394
braved

721
00:25:58,775 --> 00:26:01,174
the the dreaded gambuy and came in and,

722
00:26:01,174 --> 00:26:02,714
you know, we talked and,

723
00:26:03,414 --> 00:26:06,295
just you know, somebody's thinking about me. So

724
00:26:06,295 --> 00:26:07,115
Soup Patrol

725
00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:08,769
doesn't have to be soup, and it's not

726
00:26:08,769 --> 00:26:11,330
really about the soup. It's really about going,

727
00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:13,170
you know, saying hi and say, hey. We're

728
00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,250
thinking about you. Here's some soup or some

729
00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:17,890
homemade bread or some chili or Yeah. It

730
00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:19,029
could be anything. Cookies,

731
00:26:19,650 --> 00:26:20,789
store bought, whatever.

732
00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:23,674
It's not about the soup. It's about, oh,

733
00:26:23,674 --> 00:26:25,194
hey. We're thinking about you. We heard you

734
00:26:25,194 --> 00:26:27,674
had a knee replacement, and you're can't go

735
00:26:27,674 --> 00:26:30,154
anywhere. You know? Hey. How's that? Here's some

736
00:26:30,154 --> 00:26:31,054
cake. You know?

737
00:26:31,434 --> 00:26:31,835
And,

738
00:26:32,234 --> 00:26:33,214
that has been

739
00:26:33,595 --> 00:26:34,575
a a very

740
00:26:36,009 --> 00:26:36,509
impactful

741
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:39,130
effort. So it's not I don't think of

742
00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:39,950
it as

743
00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:42,809
owned by the elders quorum, although it it

744
00:26:42,809 --> 00:26:45,930
is in essence, it is. But anybody can

745
00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:47,609
be as part of the sea patrol. So

746
00:26:47,769 --> 00:26:49,654
Yeah. A couple, a family,

747
00:26:50,194 --> 00:26:51,734
single guy, single lady,

748
00:26:52,914 --> 00:26:55,234
can we do we rotate it by month.

749
00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:56,994
So some like, we just finished our

750
00:26:57,794 --> 00:26:59,634
my wife and I did Super Patrol this

751
00:26:59,634 --> 00:27:01,474
month. I've got somebody lined up for next

752
00:27:01,474 --> 00:27:03,234
month, and, you know, I just every month.

753
00:27:03,234 --> 00:27:05,099
Yeah. And it could be done in a

754
00:27:05,099 --> 00:27:06,779
number of other ways too. But the the

755
00:27:06,779 --> 00:27:08,880
idea is they have something ready to go.

756
00:27:10,059 --> 00:27:11,820
And when we hear about it, something they

757
00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:13,099
just say, oh, do you have some soup

758
00:27:13,099 --> 00:27:14,140
ready to go? And they go, oh, yeah.

759
00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:15,420
Yeah. I just made some the other day.

760
00:27:15,420 --> 00:27:16,700
Or we have some in the fridge, or

761
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:17,840
we have some in the freezer.

762
00:27:18,244 --> 00:27:19,845
Okay. Well, so and so needs them. Now

763
00:27:19,845 --> 00:27:21,525
here here's the way you tie it into

764
00:27:21,525 --> 00:27:23,765
the m and s or to the, the

765
00:27:23,765 --> 00:27:26,904
ministering system, ministering brothers or ministering sisters.

766
00:27:28,965 --> 00:27:29,705
You contact

767
00:27:30,085 --> 00:27:32,325
the ministering brothers or sisters. I call them

768
00:27:32,325 --> 00:27:33,480
min bros, by the way.

769
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,759
So let the, let the min bros know.

770
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,160
And this goes for service projects too. As

771
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,619
soon as you find out that,

772
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,599
brother Smith is planning the move or he's

773
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,200
got a shed that he needs to tear

774
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,179
down or whatever,

775
00:27:48,674 --> 00:27:50,034
one of the first things you could try

776
00:27:50,034 --> 00:27:51,894
to do is reach out to the minbros

777
00:27:52,515 --> 00:27:54,595
Yeah. And say, would you like to be

778
00:27:54,595 --> 00:27:55,095
involved?

779
00:27:56,674 --> 00:27:57,335
And then

780
00:27:58,115 --> 00:28:00,115
depend now in our ward, like I said,

781
00:28:00,115 --> 00:28:01,414
a lot of elderly guys,

782
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:03,930
it kinda takes a day or two to

783
00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:05,150
get a response back.

784
00:28:05,849 --> 00:28:08,170
And often, the thing has already passed. Like,

785
00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:10,570
it's already things are already moving before the

786
00:28:10,570 --> 00:28:13,210
minbros get on board. Right. But we have

787
00:28:13,210 --> 00:28:15,710
some mixed success with telling the minbros,

788
00:28:16,214 --> 00:28:18,454
hey. So and so needs hey. We need

789
00:28:18,454 --> 00:28:20,775
some sandbags in his driveway to control the

790
00:28:20,775 --> 00:28:22,554
flooding that comes down off the hill.

791
00:28:23,894 --> 00:28:25,734
Can you help us get the sandbags up

792
00:28:25,734 --> 00:28:27,335
there? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I'll meet you tomorrow

793
00:28:27,335 --> 00:28:29,414
morning at 07:00. That just happened a couple

794
00:28:29,414 --> 00:28:31,970
weeks ago. Mhmm. So me and the ministering

795
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:32,470
brother

796
00:28:32,849 --> 00:28:33,589
met with,

797
00:28:34,369 --> 00:28:36,130
the the brother that needed the help, and

798
00:28:36,130 --> 00:28:38,369
we brought some sandbags up. That's a whole

799
00:28:38,369 --> 00:28:40,609
another project that we have. Right. Sandbags ready

800
00:28:40,609 --> 00:28:41,169
to go. But,

801
00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:44,444
put sandbags up on his driveway to keep

802
00:28:44,605 --> 00:28:46,784
the the floods from coming into his basement.

803
00:28:47,644 --> 00:28:50,044
The flood waters, not the flood. But Yeah.

804
00:28:50,044 --> 00:28:52,125
Yeah. So going back to the Supertrol, so

805
00:28:52,125 --> 00:28:55,005
when it's it's someone's month to be the

806
00:28:55,164 --> 00:28:57,769
to spearhead the Supertrol, they just just during

807
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:59,529
that month, they always make sure they have

808
00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:01,710
soup on hand ready to go. Theoretically.

809
00:29:02,329 --> 00:29:03,710
Yeah. Okay. I mean,

810
00:29:04,089 --> 00:29:06,429
you know, things Okay. Things don't work perfectly.

811
00:29:07,049 --> 00:29:09,049
Or or sometimes when somebody goes, oh, I

812
00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:10,650
forgot. We already gave out the we don't

813
00:29:10,650 --> 00:29:12,569
have any left. Okay. Well, we'll figure out.

814
00:29:12,569 --> 00:29:13,904
You know? Yeah. Or they run to the

815
00:29:13,904 --> 00:29:16,384
store or whatever. Right? Some people just run

816
00:29:16,384 --> 00:29:18,865
to the store. Yeah. Or they're gone for

817
00:29:18,865 --> 00:29:20,144
two weeks. You know? They go, oh, yeah.

818
00:29:20,144 --> 00:29:21,904
We forgot. We don't have then we just

819
00:29:21,904 --> 00:29:23,744
fill in this you know? We it's very

820
00:29:23,744 --> 00:29:25,184
loose and very,

821
00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:26,164
unstructured.

822
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:27,740
I have a saying,

823
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,299
the gospel of Christ is not a program.

824
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,119
Yeah. You know, it's things are not all

825
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,599
laid out neatly in a manual. Here's what

826
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:38,200
you do. You know, if this doesn't work,

827
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,559
do this, do this. Yeah. It's not a

828
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:41,115
manual of instruction. It's

829
00:29:41,674 --> 00:29:42,954
what what's in your heart? How do you

830
00:29:43,035 --> 00:29:45,035
how can you help people? And if everybody's

831
00:29:45,035 --> 00:29:47,035
trying to help people, then it works pretty

832
00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:49,595
well. So the idea is that the elders

833
00:29:49,595 --> 00:29:51,755
quorum presidency may get wind or anybody in

834
00:29:51,755 --> 00:29:53,595
the quorum may get wind that somebody's sick

835
00:29:53,595 --> 00:29:55,535
or going through a hard time, and then

836
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480
they activate the suit patrol that that person

837
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,299
would then

838
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,240
follow through with delivering that. That's right. Now

839
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,279
and ministering brothers and sisters can just go

840
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,600
to their to whoever's done, you know, and

841
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,740
pick up the suit.

842
00:30:09,055 --> 00:30:10,815
Uh-huh. The the the the Soup Patrol person

843
00:30:10,815 --> 00:30:12,494
doesn't even have to deliver it. They just

844
00:30:12,734 --> 00:30:15,315
it's just just kind of a ready magazine,

845
00:30:15,375 --> 00:30:18,095
ready to go. Yeah. Yeah. And and they

846
00:30:18,095 --> 00:30:19,855
can deliver it. Sometimes they do deliver it.

847
00:30:19,855 --> 00:30:21,375
Doesn't have to be in the ward again.

848
00:30:21,375 --> 00:30:23,440
It could be somebody else. I I my

849
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,039
wife and I just took soup to a

850
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,559
friend of mine who lives in Santa Clara.

851
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:26,720
So,

852
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,179
very, very open ended. But

853
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,819
to me, the idea here is to

854
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,079
start to affect the culture of not just

855
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,575
the ward, but the whole community. Let's Yeah.

856
00:30:39,035 --> 00:30:41,454
Let's start when we talk about Zion communities.

857
00:30:41,515 --> 00:30:42,015
Right?

858
00:30:42,555 --> 00:30:44,394
Well, how how is that really gonna work?

859
00:30:44,394 --> 00:30:45,755
Well, to me, I mean, it's a small

860
00:30:45,755 --> 00:30:47,275
step, but this is a this is a

861
00:30:47,275 --> 00:30:48,414
step towards that.

862
00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:50,015
Being ready to

863
00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:53,809
step out of your comfort zone and go

864
00:30:54,109 --> 00:30:55,570
talk to somebody outside

865
00:30:55,950 --> 00:30:58,210
and say, oh, oh, I hear your,

866
00:30:58,910 --> 00:30:59,630
you know, your,

867
00:31:00,349 --> 00:31:02,109
your car got a flat tire and you

868
00:31:02,109 --> 00:31:03,470
don't have a jack. You know? Can I

869
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:06,414
help? Yeah. And then so just to clarify,

870
00:31:06,414 --> 00:31:06,734
like,

871
00:31:08,174 --> 00:31:10,674
with the the the Super Patrol, are they

872
00:31:10,894 --> 00:31:12,894
calling ahead, letting the the family know they're

873
00:31:12,894 --> 00:31:14,255
bringing the suit? They just show up? Or

874
00:31:14,575 --> 00:31:15,075
Depends.

875
00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:16,815
Okay. One one of the,

876
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:19,119
typical things and this is maybe this is

877
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:20,420
just a, you know, American

878
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,019
culture thing, but,

879
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:24,799
you know, hey. We'd like to bring you

880
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,740
some oh, no. We're okay.

881
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,420
Don't worry about us.

882
00:31:29,535 --> 00:31:31,295
So it it's a hit and hit and

883
00:31:31,295 --> 00:31:32,515
miss. Depends on

884
00:31:33,855 --> 00:31:35,455
it depends on who you're dealing with and

885
00:31:35,455 --> 00:31:38,494
who you are. Yeah. I have often dropped

886
00:31:38,494 --> 00:31:40,575
things off at the door, you know, left

887
00:31:40,575 --> 00:31:41,475
a note or

888
00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:43,410
or send them a text saying, hey. We

889
00:31:43,410 --> 00:31:45,349
just brought you some cookies or whatever.

890
00:31:46,849 --> 00:31:48,450
But, you know, you don't wanna leave something

891
00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:50,069
on the door that's gonna get,

892
00:31:50,529 --> 00:31:51,990
you know, raided by

893
00:31:52,450 --> 00:31:54,630
the wild animals or whatever. Right. Right.

894
00:31:56,444 --> 00:31:57,825
Often, we're just you know,

895
00:31:58,125 --> 00:32:00,525
it's a surprise. You know? Oh, hi. Here's

896
00:32:00,525 --> 00:32:02,605
some soup. One time, I remember going into

897
00:32:02,605 --> 00:32:04,304
a lady's house. She was upstairs.

898
00:32:05,244 --> 00:32:06,944
She let she buzzed us in.

899
00:32:07,244 --> 00:32:09,265
She was upstairs recovering from something

900
00:32:09,789 --> 00:32:11,470
and just said leave it on the kitchen

901
00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:13,230
counter. And so we did, hi. Hi. How

902
00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:15,710
are you doing? She's, you know, talking down

903
00:32:15,710 --> 00:32:18,109
the stairwell at us. So, okay. We brought

904
00:32:18,109 --> 00:32:19,869
you something. Just we're leaving it on the

905
00:32:19,869 --> 00:32:22,029
counter. And then, you know, she she said,

906
00:32:22,029 --> 00:32:23,549
oh, thank you. That was so good. You

907
00:32:23,549 --> 00:32:24,690
know? So

908
00:32:25,015 --> 00:32:27,595
it's really about being willing to go, not

909
00:32:28,134 --> 00:32:28,615
not,

910
00:32:30,694 --> 00:32:32,315
waiting and waiting for the perfect

911
00:32:32,855 --> 00:32:33,755
time. Yeah.

912
00:32:34,615 --> 00:32:36,394
Yeah. Is there is there anything you do

913
00:32:36,694 --> 00:32:37,994
as far as with involving

914
00:32:38,535 --> 00:32:40,375
everybody in the quorum, like so that you

915
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:42,210
don't get the same 10 people that are

916
00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:43,809
always showing up for the moves, you know,

917
00:32:43,809 --> 00:32:46,289
like, are you trying to Yeah. I I

918
00:32:46,289 --> 00:32:47,509
have mixed success.

919
00:32:49,330 --> 00:32:51,809
Yeah. As we So, yeah, I mean, we're

920
00:32:51,809 --> 00:32:53,589
seeing a lot of the same guys, obviously.

921
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:55,170
And like I said, I get to know

922
00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:55,990
all of them.

923
00:32:56,325 --> 00:32:58,484
I try to rotate things around. I I

924
00:32:58,484 --> 00:33:01,044
make a conscious effort. But our elders quorum

925
00:33:01,044 --> 00:33:01,704
right now,

926
00:33:02,484 --> 00:33:04,105
elders quorum president, Stuart,

927
00:33:06,005 --> 00:33:08,565
he he's phenomenal. He's he's like, he would

928
00:33:08,565 --> 00:33:10,500
do anything at any at any time.

929
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:13,640
And I'm constantly trying to say, no, Stuart.

930
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,619
You you know, you did the last you

931
00:33:15,619 --> 00:33:17,460
sit you sit down. Let me work with

932
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:19,539
other guys. You know? And so I I

933
00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:21,059
kinda have to keep him up because he's

934
00:33:21,059 --> 00:33:23,025
got a whole lot of stuff to do.

935
00:33:23,345 --> 00:33:24,484
He's working on,

936
00:33:25,184 --> 00:33:26,805
you know, the welfare issues,

937
00:33:27,984 --> 00:33:29,744
greeting new member. He's got a whole bunch

938
00:33:29,744 --> 00:33:31,825
of tasks that he's working on. So I

939
00:33:31,825 --> 00:33:33,904
I actually try to protect the elders corp

940
00:33:33,904 --> 00:33:34,404
president

941
00:33:34,945 --> 00:33:37,265
as I do the bishopric. I I try

942
00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:38,005
not to

943
00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:41,210
pass things on to the to see the

944
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:42,509
the bishopric do things.

945
00:33:43,849 --> 00:33:44,250
And,

946
00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:46,809
you know, I try to try to relieve

947
00:33:46,809 --> 00:33:48,509
these leaders of of this burden.

948
00:33:48,890 --> 00:33:51,130
Yeah. Makes sense. But I also don't wanna

949
00:33:51,289 --> 00:33:52,424
you know, they wanna do it.

950
00:33:53,384 --> 00:33:55,485
So I'm not gonna say no.

951
00:33:55,865 --> 00:33:57,945
I might say no once, but if they

952
00:33:57,945 --> 00:33:59,945
really persist, I was okay. Alright. Come on,

953
00:33:59,945 --> 00:34:02,505
Stewart. Be there tomorrow at eight. Yeah. And

954
00:34:02,505 --> 00:34:04,365
I'm thinking, you know, there may be people,

955
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,000
you know, resistant to showing up to a

956
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,679
move, and you can approach them and say,

957
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,599
how about you do SuperTroll this week this

958
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,940
month. Right? And it's less of a physical

959
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,260
task and more of just service. Right? Right.

960
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:17,319
Right. Is there anything else? And I I

961
00:34:17,319 --> 00:34:19,284
love the SuperTroll thing because it's such it's

962
00:34:19,284 --> 00:34:21,605
kind of this universal thing. Like, everybody's eating

963
00:34:21,605 --> 00:34:23,605
and, yeah, maybe it's not a big deal

964
00:34:23,605 --> 00:34:25,605
or but maybe someone lost their job or

965
00:34:25,605 --> 00:34:27,605
they're just had a rough day or whatever.

966
00:34:27,605 --> 00:34:29,525
Like, you you know, whether they're sick or

967
00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:31,764
not, that's, kind of a universal thing you

968
00:34:31,764 --> 00:34:32,824
can do to serve.

969
00:34:33,179 --> 00:34:34,940
I think another part of the service coordinator,

970
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:37,659
at least in my org, like, we don't

971
00:34:37,659 --> 00:34:39,659
have a we've kinda gone through our phase

972
00:34:39,659 --> 00:34:41,659
of move ins. You know, everybody's sort of

973
00:34:41,659 --> 00:34:42,159
settled.

974
00:34:42,619 --> 00:34:44,859
We have a lot of young couples who

975
00:34:44,859 --> 00:34:47,235
are you know, maybe they have a have

976
00:34:47,235 --> 00:34:48,595
an infant of you know, we have the

977
00:34:48,595 --> 00:34:51,555
machine of the of the compassionate service and

978
00:34:51,555 --> 00:34:53,954
the newborns, you know, bringing meals after births

979
00:34:53,954 --> 00:34:55,655
is you know, that's, definitely

980
00:34:55,954 --> 00:34:56,775
dialed in.

981
00:34:57,075 --> 00:34:58,595
I'm just like, the big part of it

982
00:34:58,595 --> 00:35:00,135
is just finding service

983
00:35:00,609 --> 00:35:01,109
opportunities.

984
00:35:01,409 --> 00:35:03,409
And even if it's like sometimes we don't

985
00:35:03,409 --> 00:35:05,089
even know someone's been sick, you know, or

986
00:35:05,089 --> 00:35:05,989
we don't know

987
00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:08,769
there's it kinda feels forced at times. You

988
00:35:08,769 --> 00:35:10,050
know? Like, well, let us know if there's

989
00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:11,730
anything we can do, but, no, there's not

990
00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:13,695
really. I mean, I'm good. Or my brother's

991
00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:15,215
down the road or you know? Yeah. I'm

992
00:35:15,454 --> 00:35:16,835
besides just waiting

993
00:35:17,535 --> 00:35:18,994
for the next move in,

994
00:35:19,295 --> 00:35:19,954
I I'm

995
00:35:20,255 --> 00:35:20,755
usually

996
00:35:21,614 --> 00:35:23,914
sending messages out. I'm,

997
00:35:24,414 --> 00:35:26,494
talking to people in, I I have time

998
00:35:26,494 --> 00:35:28,195
in elders quorum, so

999
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:30,949
I'll I'll use that time and say what

1000
00:35:30,949 --> 00:35:32,630
what things might be coming up, or I'll

1001
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,309
thank people for the you know, showing up

1002
00:35:34,309 --> 00:35:36,489
at this particular project. But I'm also asking,

1003
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:38,949
who do you know? If you know any

1004
00:35:38,949 --> 00:35:39,449
people,

1005
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:41,510
you know, there's always the suit patrol who

1006
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:42,949
who'd like you know, do you know anybody

1007
00:35:42,949 --> 00:35:44,630
that's sick? But, also, what do we know

1008
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:46,864
about other projects coming up?

1009
00:35:47,565 --> 00:35:49,005
So we we have a little bit of

1010
00:35:49,005 --> 00:35:51,324
a discussion about that. And then I've been

1011
00:35:51,324 --> 00:35:53,485
doing it long enough in this ward that

1012
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:54,864
people know that,

1013
00:35:55,324 --> 00:35:57,344
you know, if there's if there's an issue,

1014
00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:00,110
people will get ahold of me or they'll

1015
00:36:00,110 --> 00:36:01,950
get ahold of Stewart as the elders' former

1016
00:36:01,950 --> 00:36:04,050
president, and I'll find out quickly. I mean,

1017
00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:07,070
you gotta have your feelers out. You know?

1018
00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:08,989
Don't just sit back and wait. You gotta

1019
00:36:08,989 --> 00:36:11,309
go and do. Go and do. You gotta

1020
00:36:11,309 --> 00:36:11,970
be proactive.

1021
00:36:12,385 --> 00:36:12,945
Yeah. And,

1022
00:36:13,585 --> 00:36:15,825
there are many things. There are lots of

1023
00:36:15,825 --> 00:36:18,405
opportunities if you just keep keep asking.

1024
00:36:18,785 --> 00:36:21,345
Yep. Yep. And I I just love just

1025
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,585
the this culture of service that comes. You

1026
00:36:23,585 --> 00:36:26,065
know, people start to understand what what Ajax

1027
00:36:26,065 --> 00:36:28,309
is doing and, you know, what oh, you

1028
00:36:28,309 --> 00:36:30,090
know, there there's sort of the system.

1029
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:32,250
They can reach out, send a message.

1030
00:36:32,869 --> 00:36:35,110
You know? And then I think these things

1031
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:36,469
will come up a lot easier as Now

1032
00:36:36,469 --> 00:36:38,390
let me all the members are aware. Challenge,

1033
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:38,869
though.

1034
00:36:39,429 --> 00:36:41,190
And I've been doing this long enough to

1035
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:42,890
where everybody knows me,

1036
00:36:43,565 --> 00:36:45,644
and I'm the guy to go to, but

1037
00:36:45,644 --> 00:36:47,565
I now I'm to the phase of I

1038
00:36:47,565 --> 00:36:48,224
need to

1039
00:36:48,525 --> 00:36:49,505
I need to stop

1040
00:36:50,045 --> 00:36:52,545
talking about what I do. You know?

1041
00:36:53,005 --> 00:36:55,505
I guess maybe I'm narcissistic enough to where,

1042
00:36:56,139 --> 00:36:57,739
you know, it kinda comes across that way.

1043
00:36:57,739 --> 00:36:59,260
But I for the last couple of years,

1044
00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:00,159
I've been actually

1045
00:37:00,699 --> 00:37:03,260
understanding that I'm trying to build this culture

1046
00:37:03,260 --> 00:37:06,219
so other people are getting involved, and other

1047
00:37:06,219 --> 00:37:08,619
people are getting excited about it, and other

1048
00:37:08,619 --> 00:37:11,440
people are going out and finding projects. And

1049
00:37:11,579 --> 00:37:13,155
and and I've had a little bit of

1050
00:37:13,155 --> 00:37:15,315
success with that. But, yeah, I am I

1051
00:37:15,315 --> 00:37:16,695
am concerned that,

1052
00:37:17,155 --> 00:37:18,695
you know, if I'm not here

1053
00:37:19,155 --> 00:37:22,055
to make this work, then what's gonna happen?

1054
00:37:22,835 --> 00:37:25,155
I'm trying to get an assistant that's that's

1055
00:37:25,155 --> 00:37:27,414
proactive enough to to work on that.

1056
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:31,099
I would love to have a a a,

1057
00:37:31,099 --> 00:37:34,299
you know, twenty year younger version that I

1058
00:37:34,299 --> 00:37:34,799
could,

1059
00:37:35,339 --> 00:37:37,579
like, would transplant all these ideas and go,

1060
00:37:37,579 --> 00:37:38,139
okay. Now you

1061
00:37:39,260 --> 00:37:39,760
but,

1062
00:37:41,375 --> 00:37:43,215
I do think that that's part of why

1063
00:37:43,215 --> 00:37:45,135
I've started reaching out to some of these

1064
00:37:45,135 --> 00:37:47,554
LDS podcasts. It's like, I I think there's

1065
00:37:47,855 --> 00:37:50,655
people that would really benefit the the people

1066
00:37:50,655 --> 00:37:52,114
that could be service coordinators

1067
00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:54,430
that would benefit. I mean, it's so great

1068
00:37:54,430 --> 00:37:55,789
to be able to go out and serve

1069
00:37:55,789 --> 00:37:56,289
people.

1070
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:57,329
And it's,

1071
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:00,190
I didn't really talk about this in the

1072
00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:02,289
beginning, but one of my motivations is,

1073
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:04,829
you know, if you if things aren't going

1074
00:38:05,405 --> 00:38:07,164
if you if you get inside your own

1075
00:38:07,164 --> 00:38:08,525
head too much, then you start

1076
00:38:09,005 --> 00:38:11,885
and I'm retired, so this all started after

1077
00:38:11,885 --> 00:38:13,025
I retired. But,

1078
00:38:13,484 --> 00:38:15,484
you know, instead of thinking about your own

1079
00:38:15,484 --> 00:38:16,625
problems and

1080
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:19,340
your own you know, or or, you know,

1081
00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:21,280
what vacation you're gonna take next,

1082
00:38:21,579 --> 00:38:23,340
start looking around and go, well, how can

1083
00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:24,079
I help people?

1084
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:26,640
And it changes your whole attitude. It changes

1085
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:27,360
you spiritually.

1086
00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:28,300
And,

1087
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:29,840
so

1088
00:38:30,219 --> 00:38:31,485
I think, you know,

1089
00:38:32,045 --> 00:38:34,925
let a thousand service coordinators bloom all over

1090
00:38:34,925 --> 00:38:37,025
the all over the church. Yeah.

1091
00:38:37,724 --> 00:38:39,244
And and I would love to,

1092
00:38:39,965 --> 00:38:40,465
to,

1093
00:38:41,405 --> 00:38:44,045
exchange ideas with others. There there are service

1094
00:38:44,045 --> 00:38:45,929
coordinators out there. I'm not I'm not the

1095
00:38:45,929 --> 00:38:48,409
only one. You're not. I'm not that big

1096
00:38:48,409 --> 00:38:50,510
of a genius. So so there's

1097
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,889
other people I wonder if we have more

1098
00:38:52,889 --> 00:38:54,889
apostles or service coordinators in the in the

1099
00:38:54,889 --> 00:38:57,050
church. I think there's a lot more service

1100
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:59,474
coordinators. I have I I when I first

1101
00:38:59,474 --> 00:39:01,795
started, like, becoming aware that, oh, there's this

1102
00:39:01,795 --> 00:39:03,714
calling, I thought, well, no one has ever

1103
00:39:03,714 --> 00:39:06,054
talked about this. But, no, there are there's

1104
00:39:06,434 --> 00:39:08,194
a few other wards at my stake that

1105
00:39:08,194 --> 00:39:09,174
have service coordinators.

1106
00:39:09,635 --> 00:39:10,934
And now that I started,

1107
00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:11,974
you know,

1108
00:39:12,369 --> 00:39:14,849
plugging into Discord and some other places, yeah,

1109
00:39:14,849 --> 00:39:17,089
there are service coordinators out there. And they

1110
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:19,889
and they have ideas, and they have cool

1111
00:39:19,889 --> 00:39:22,130
stories, and they have exciting things they're doing.

1112
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:23,969
So I would like to, like, get that

1113
00:39:23,969 --> 00:39:26,769
get that community going. Yeah. For sure. Let

1114
00:39:26,769 --> 00:39:27,760
me Yeah.

1115
00:39:28,184 --> 00:39:29,485
Let me mention another,

1116
00:39:30,105 --> 00:39:30,605
challenge

1117
00:39:31,224 --> 00:39:32,045
is that,

1118
00:39:33,625 --> 00:39:35,785
maybe challenge is too strong, but but you

1119
00:39:35,785 --> 00:39:36,765
need to be aware

1120
00:39:37,385 --> 00:39:37,885
of

1121
00:39:38,425 --> 00:39:40,684
how you mesh with the relief society.

1122
00:39:41,465 --> 00:39:41,965
So

1123
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,239
in in a lot of ways and in

1124
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,320
many wars I've been in, the Relief Society

1125
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,239
is doing its thing. It's in a silo

1126
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,980
over here,

1127
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,880
and then the elders quorum is in its

1128
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,380
silo.

1129
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:54,239
And they're just doing you know, they're they're

1130
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,559
working away, but they don't necessarily talk to

1131
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:57,300
each other.

1132
00:39:57,835 --> 00:39:59,594
It's not that way in all words, so

1133
00:39:59,594 --> 00:40:01,594
maybe, you know, maybe that doesn't apply. No.

1134
00:40:01,594 --> 00:40:02,315
That's fine. But,

1135
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:04,815
I think that the service coordinator

1136
00:40:05,275 --> 00:40:08,414
and the compassionate service leaders ought to be

1137
00:40:08,954 --> 00:40:10,715
communicating regularly, and I'm

1138
00:40:11,469 --> 00:40:13,789
that's something I'm still working on trying to

1139
00:40:13,789 --> 00:40:16,910
get that going. And you shouldn't compete with

1140
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:19,570
them. Like, Soup Patrol is not a substitute

1141
00:40:19,869 --> 00:40:22,750
or a competitor to the meals that Relief

1142
00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:24,210
Society does. Right.

1143
00:40:25,034 --> 00:40:27,114
They you know, the Soup Patrol thing is

1144
00:40:27,114 --> 00:40:29,594
just a quick hit. It's like, oh, somebody

1145
00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:31,434
need you know, somebody got their ankle busted

1146
00:40:31,434 --> 00:40:32,255
and, you know,

1147
00:40:32,875 --> 00:40:35,054
let's let's take them, some hot bread.

1148
00:40:35,755 --> 00:40:37,594
But they might need meals for the next

1149
00:40:37,594 --> 00:40:39,510
week or two, and that's a release side

1150
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:40,809
thing. There's no intent

1151
00:40:41,110 --> 00:40:41,610
to

1152
00:40:41,989 --> 00:40:44,630
displace or compete with what the release side

1153
00:40:44,789 --> 00:40:47,190
the ministering efforts that the men that the

1154
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:49,610
release side does every day. There's no intent

1155
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:50,324
for that.

1156
00:40:51,125 --> 00:40:52,724
You should try to figure out ways to

1157
00:40:52,724 --> 00:40:54,585
mesh and ways to work together

1158
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:57,684
and complement each other. So are you in

1159
00:40:57,684 --> 00:40:59,704
communication with the commercial service

1160
00:41:00,724 --> 00:41:02,664
either? Or Nominally, yes.

1161
00:41:03,204 --> 00:41:05,684
Uh-huh. I I I wish I did more

1162
00:41:05,684 --> 00:41:06,300
on that.

1163
00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:09,420
So Yeah. But the the I guess the

1164
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:12,140
point being, don't let it let, you know,

1165
00:41:12,140 --> 00:41:13,900
each group retreat to their silos and just

1166
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,500
sort of there's there's a lot we can

1167
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:16,860
learn and a lot more people we can

1168
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:18,800
serve effectively by working together.

1169
00:41:19,099 --> 00:41:21,405
Right. Yeah. Right. I mean, the Relief Society

1170
00:41:21,405 --> 00:41:23,405
has a lot of they've got their feelers

1171
00:41:23,405 --> 00:41:25,405
out through the through the sisters and through

1172
00:41:25,485 --> 00:41:26,465
you know, they know,

1173
00:41:27,644 --> 00:41:30,765
when somebody's struggling or something. And often, that

1174
00:41:30,925 --> 00:41:32,684
that's been worked on, and then it goes

1175
00:41:32,684 --> 00:41:35,339
it goes up to the to the, ward.

1176
00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:37,359
What's the what's it called there?

1177
00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:40,299
I can't remember. But the the meeting that

1178
00:41:40,299 --> 00:41:42,619
they have The word council? Or Ward council.

1179
00:41:42,619 --> 00:41:44,380
Excuse me. I I was gonna say correlation,

1180
00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:45,980
but it's the it's the word council that

1181
00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:48,644
talks about those issues. So so let's you

1182
00:41:48,644 --> 00:41:50,664
know? Some sister so and so,

1183
00:41:51,204 --> 00:41:53,364
lost her job, and now she's struggling and,

1184
00:41:53,364 --> 00:41:55,385
you know, and that that comes up

1185
00:41:55,684 --> 00:41:58,085
to the to the word council. Word council

1186
00:41:58,085 --> 00:42:01,224
talks about it, and then maybe meals start.

1187
00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:02,739
And then it could be a week or

1188
00:42:02,739 --> 00:42:04,819
two before the elders corps member finds out

1189
00:42:04,819 --> 00:42:06,819
about it. Unless somebody makes an effort, he

1190
00:42:06,819 --> 00:42:09,139
goes, oh, let's talk to the elders corps

1191
00:42:09,139 --> 00:42:09,639
president.

1192
00:42:10,019 --> 00:42:10,759
And then

1193
00:42:11,059 --> 00:42:13,079
it trickles down, and then it comes across,

1194
00:42:13,219 --> 00:42:15,059
oh, hey. We have this guy. He's the

1195
00:42:15,059 --> 00:42:17,000
service coordinator. Maybe he could help

1196
00:42:17,594 --> 00:42:19,434
do the, you know, trim the bushes. You

1197
00:42:19,434 --> 00:42:21,215
know? And it's, like, two weeks later.

1198
00:42:21,994 --> 00:42:24,234
So I'd like to see that sped up

1199
00:42:24,234 --> 00:42:25,054
so that

1200
00:42:25,355 --> 00:42:28,315
Yeah. When the release society finds out, Elvis

1201
00:42:28,315 --> 00:42:30,474
Coram and and me find out and vice

1202
00:42:30,474 --> 00:42:30,974
versa.

1203
00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:34,329
Yeah. So every everybody's kinda energized at the

1204
00:42:34,329 --> 00:42:36,890
same time. Yeah. You know, and we are,

1205
00:42:37,610 --> 00:42:38,750
we do have that,

1206
00:42:39,289 --> 00:42:40,010
you know, the,

1207
00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:43,210
admonition to seek out the poor and the

1208
00:42:43,210 --> 00:42:45,695
needy. Right? So sometimes we kinda wait around,

1209
00:42:45,695 --> 00:42:47,554
like, for people to approach us, but,

1210
00:42:48,255 --> 00:42:50,094
you know, the more proactive we can be

1211
00:42:50,094 --> 00:42:52,094
to seek these opportunities out, I mean, that's

1212
00:42:52,094 --> 00:42:53,795
where Right. Where our discipleship

1213
00:42:54,175 --> 00:42:54,994
should be focused.

1214
00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:59,150
To to me, the seek the service effort

1215
00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:00,130
is a multidisciplinary,

1216
00:43:00,989 --> 00:43:02,769
you know, crosses boundaries.

1217
00:43:04,269 --> 00:43:06,269
I've already mentioned, you know, the elders getting

1218
00:43:06,269 --> 00:43:08,769
involved, the missionaries getting involved. I I have,

1219
00:43:09,164 --> 00:43:12,065
a good he's a neighbor of mine, the

1220
00:43:12,125 --> 00:43:14,445
the award mission leader. Mhmm. And he he

1221
00:43:14,445 --> 00:43:16,364
knows that he can reach out to, to

1222
00:43:16,364 --> 00:43:17,965
the M and S list and and the

1223
00:43:17,965 --> 00:43:19,184
super patrol anytime.

1224
00:43:19,804 --> 00:43:22,065
And if we if he has an investigator

1225
00:43:22,125 --> 00:43:23,985
or somebody that he's working with,

1226
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:26,719
we'll we can chip in. Yeah.

1227
00:43:28,219 --> 00:43:28,619
The,

1228
00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:31,019
I mentioned the youth, the young men, young

1229
00:43:31,019 --> 00:43:31,519
women.

1230
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:35,420
I could do more there. I I wish

1231
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:37,260
that the young men and young women had

1232
00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:39,355
more I mean, they have their own opportunities,

1233
00:43:39,355 --> 00:43:41,034
but I think we could be tighter in

1234
00:43:41,034 --> 00:43:42,634
sync and it could give them even more

1235
00:43:42,634 --> 00:43:43,134
opportunities.

1236
00:43:43,594 --> 00:43:45,375
And we need more young bodies.

1237
00:43:46,315 --> 00:43:47,614
In our ward, we got

1238
00:43:48,154 --> 00:43:50,394
willing old guys with weak knees and weak

1239
00:43:50,394 --> 00:43:50,894
backs.

1240
00:43:52,210 --> 00:43:54,130
So I'm always on the prowl for somebody

1241
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:56,369
with, you know, with fresh meat. So when

1242
00:43:56,369 --> 00:43:58,530
when somebody under 40 moves into our award,

1243
00:43:58,530 --> 00:43:59,170
I'm typically

1244
00:43:59,890 --> 00:44:02,130
when they give their first talk, I'm I'm

1245
00:44:02,130 --> 00:44:03,969
up there. Hey. How are you doing? I

1246
00:44:03,969 --> 00:44:05,815
heard you let you know? Seeing how firm

1247
00:44:05,815 --> 00:44:08,614
that handshake is. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, do

1248
00:44:08,614 --> 00:44:09,434
you have a truck?

1249
00:44:10,295 --> 00:44:10,795
Exactly.

1250
00:44:11,414 --> 00:44:11,914
Yeah.

1251
00:44:12,215 --> 00:44:14,215
That's awesome. And so things like

1252
00:44:15,015 --> 00:44:17,255
well, does I know sometimes we'll get from

1253
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:19,719
our area, our steak, we'll get, you know,

1254
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,260
canning assignments, like church

1255
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,800
formal service assignments that way. Is is that

1256
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,640
something you ever deal with? I I try

1257
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,239
not to deal with those. Like I said,

1258
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,680
it's and to me, it's kinda like the

1259
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,320
self licking ice cream cone. Uh-huh. That's that's

1260
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,640
a little pejorative. I shouldn't maybe I shouldn't

1261
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,680
use that term so much. But,

1262
00:44:36,414 --> 00:44:39,054
for example, though, the state president has come

1263
00:44:39,054 --> 00:44:41,295
to me to, this is the second year

1264
00:44:41,295 --> 00:44:43,315
to do a Christmas lighting program

1265
00:44:43,694 --> 00:44:45,714
at the at the Saint George Temple.

1266
00:44:46,174 --> 00:44:49,135
So we there's multiple stakes that get involved.

1267
00:44:49,135 --> 00:44:51,039
They come and they set up the lights

1268
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:52,559
and, you know, it's kind of a big

1269
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:53,059
deal.

1270
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,199
So the state president knows that, you know,

1271
00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,119
I'm very active in this. So he he

1272
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:00,960
asked me last year, and it was fun,

1273
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,175
and I enjoyed it. And

1274
00:45:02,735 --> 00:45:03,875
so I'm the

1275
00:45:04,255 --> 00:45:06,195
the crew chief for that project

1276
00:45:06,974 --> 00:45:07,875
and our stake.

1277
00:45:10,175 --> 00:45:12,414
So it's kind of an outgrowth of just

1278
00:45:12,414 --> 00:45:12,914
my

1279
00:45:13,454 --> 00:45:15,474
activity of, you know, trying to

1280
00:45:16,389 --> 00:45:17,690
help people in it whenever.

1281
00:45:17,989 --> 00:45:18,489
But

1282
00:45:18,789 --> 00:45:19,449
the typical,

1283
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:21,530
ward assignment

1284
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:22,650
type stuff,

1285
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:23,530
I

1286
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:25,750
like, you know, and we need six guys

1287
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:27,829
to go to the temple or do you

1288
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:28,329
know?

1289
00:45:29,005 --> 00:45:30,764
I I I usually stay away from those.

1290
00:45:30,764 --> 00:45:33,644
We don't have any more steak canning assignments

1291
00:45:33,644 --> 00:45:35,885
that I know of. Mhmm. At least I'm

1292
00:45:35,885 --> 00:45:38,204
not aware. Maybe I'm maybe that's an area

1293
00:45:38,204 --> 00:45:40,284
I I could plug into. But nobody in

1294
00:45:40,284 --> 00:45:42,220
our ward ever comes up and goes, hey.

1295
00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:44,480
We need six people to go to the

1296
00:45:44,619 --> 00:45:45,760
Bishop's Storehouse.

1297
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:48,800
That doesn't happen here. Maybe it does elsewhere.

1298
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:52,140
Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. That's really good. Any other

1299
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,220
point principle concept that we missed? Or

1300
00:45:55,585 --> 00:45:57,684
Yeah. The the cross channel

1301
00:45:58,065 --> 00:46:00,244
communication, I think, is is key.

1302
00:46:01,105 --> 00:46:04,324
Communication is everything about this this particular calling.

1303
00:46:04,945 --> 00:46:06,945
I think a lot of guys would be

1304
00:46:07,980 --> 00:46:08,719
would have

1305
00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:10,639
the temptation

1306
00:46:11,099 --> 00:46:12,480
to just do it themselves.

1307
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:14,940
And and I have that as well. It's

1308
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:16,380
like, oh, and I I find there's a

1309
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,139
second thing I really wanna talk about.

1310
00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:20,480
But, yeah, instead of

1311
00:46:21,054 --> 00:46:22,574
just going, oh, yeah. Well, I you know,

1312
00:46:22,574 --> 00:46:23,954
I'll be there and I'll do that.

1313
00:46:25,135 --> 00:46:27,054
You can do it. A lot of times,

1314
00:46:27,054 --> 00:46:28,434
it's simple. Oh,

1315
00:46:28,815 --> 00:46:30,195
sister so and so needs

1316
00:46:31,054 --> 00:46:33,295
the a cactus in their backyard taken out

1317
00:46:33,295 --> 00:46:35,074
and put in the trash. You know?

1318
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:37,680
I could do that in five minutes.

1319
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:39,760
But

1320
00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:42,800
her neighbor, two doors down,

1321
00:46:43,739 --> 00:46:45,980
young guy, just moved into the ward, still

1322
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:48,074
trying to figure things out. You know, if

1323
00:46:48,074 --> 00:46:50,554
you get him involved, now now he's got

1324
00:46:50,554 --> 00:46:53,034
a connection with with her, and he's just

1325
00:46:53,034 --> 00:46:54,014
two doors down.

1326
00:46:54,315 --> 00:46:56,554
So try to build the linkages as you

1327
00:46:56,554 --> 00:46:59,034
go and get other people involved instead of

1328
00:46:59,034 --> 00:47:01,289
just doing everything yourself. And and there is

1329
00:47:01,289 --> 00:47:03,610
always a max capacity. One person can't do

1330
00:47:03,610 --> 00:47:04,510
everything. So

1331
00:47:05,050 --> 00:47:08,090
instead of sometimes it takes more time and

1332
00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:10,510
more effort to get other people

1333
00:47:10,809 --> 00:47:13,710
the opportunity than just do it yourself. So

1334
00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:15,985
Yeah. Try to work on the coordination and

1335
00:47:15,985 --> 00:47:17,525
not the execution side.

1336
00:47:17,985 --> 00:47:18,485
Yeah.

1337
00:47:18,864 --> 00:47:20,804
The other big thing that I I have

1338
00:47:22,144 --> 00:47:24,304
been working on for my own personality and

1339
00:47:24,304 --> 00:47:26,005
my own growth is

1340
00:47:26,780 --> 00:47:29,739
to use the the opportunities for service as

1341
00:47:29,739 --> 00:47:30,719
as spiritual

1342
00:47:32,139 --> 00:47:32,639
development

1343
00:47:33,019 --> 00:47:33,679
for everybody.

1344
00:47:34,139 --> 00:47:34,639
And,

1345
00:47:38,139 --> 00:47:40,960
this goes into maybe too much detail, but

1346
00:47:41,474 --> 00:47:43,795
it's easy to get frustrated at stuff when

1347
00:47:43,795 --> 00:47:46,434
you're on moves and other projects and get

1348
00:47:46,434 --> 00:47:46,934
impatient

1349
00:47:47,235 --> 00:47:47,735
and,

1350
00:47:48,035 --> 00:47:49,954
you know, like I already mentioned, guys standing

1351
00:47:49,954 --> 00:47:52,434
around and stuff. So it's easy to kinda

1352
00:47:52,434 --> 00:47:54,355
get flustered and, hey. Come on. Let's get

1353
00:47:54,355 --> 00:47:56,849
going. Let's and it'd be more directive and,

1354
00:47:59,090 --> 00:47:59,590
but

1355
00:48:00,369 --> 00:48:03,570
instead of thinking about the mission, accomplishing unloading

1356
00:48:03,570 --> 00:48:06,710
the truck, you know, planting the the sod,

1357
00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:09,890
fixing the plumbing, instead of, you know, thinking

1358
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:11,110
about that,

1359
00:48:11,614 --> 00:48:14,174
which is is valuable. I'm not I'm not

1360
00:48:14,174 --> 00:48:16,335
deprecating it. It's important to get the job

1361
00:48:16,335 --> 00:48:16,835
done.

1362
00:48:18,255 --> 00:48:18,755
But

1363
00:48:19,135 --> 00:48:22,014
what's more important is the feeling and the

1364
00:48:22,014 --> 00:48:24,494
the camaraderie and the and the spiritual connection

1365
00:48:24,494 --> 00:48:26,174
you have with those people and with the

1366
00:48:26,174 --> 00:48:27,360
people you're working with.

1367
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,780
I haven't made this a

1368
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:31,059
a

1369
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,739
common practice,

1370
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,960
but I've I'm try I'm trying to figure

1371
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,960
out ways to do it is before we

1372
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,039
actually start the project, we should just have

1373
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:39,860
a little prayer.

1374
00:48:41,775 --> 00:48:43,214
I I I've done it once or twice,

1375
00:48:43,214 --> 00:48:43,875
but it's

1376
00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:46,414
amazingly hard because everybody's showing up at different

1377
00:48:46,414 --> 00:48:48,494
times. And when they show up, they're some

1378
00:48:48,494 --> 00:48:50,014
of them are like, okay. Let's go. Tell

1379
00:48:50,014 --> 00:48:51,474
me where to go. You know? It's like,

1380
00:48:51,534 --> 00:48:53,295
calm down, brother. Come over here. Let's say

1381
00:48:53,295 --> 00:48:55,119
a little prayer. And and and I'm not

1382
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:56,719
that way either. I'm the one that's like,

1383
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,340
okay. Let's go. Let's go. But

1384
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,619
take a beat,

1385
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,760
pull off to the side, say a little

1386
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,440
prayer. It could be saying a prayer when

1387
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,840
the person's living room with them. Yeah. You

1388
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,340
know?

1389
00:49:07,414 --> 00:49:09,815
And so the spiritual side is something that

1390
00:49:09,815 --> 00:49:12,695
I've been trying to work on myself and

1391
00:49:12,695 --> 00:49:14,635
trying to instill that with others. I'm

1392
00:49:14,934 --> 00:49:16,155
I'm more of a practical

1393
00:49:18,619 --> 00:49:20,940
worker than a spiritual worker, so it's something

1394
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:22,699
I need to work on. No. That's that's

1395
00:49:22,699 --> 00:49:25,420
really helpful advice to make sure that that

1396
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:27,119
that component is part of it. Right?

1397
00:49:28,219 --> 00:49:30,780
A few questions here that, people written in.

1398
00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:31,280
Any

1399
00:49:31,684 --> 00:49:33,605
do did you say you called each one

1400
00:49:33,605 --> 00:49:35,125
of those three lists as the mover and

1401
00:49:35,125 --> 00:49:37,784
shaker list one, two, and three. Right? Right.

1402
00:49:38,085 --> 00:49:38,724
Yeah. That's just

1403
00:49:39,764 --> 00:49:41,045
I I don't know. It was the fastest

1404
00:49:41,045 --> 00:49:43,284
way to put EMS. Yeah. Okay. Could have

1405
00:49:43,284 --> 00:49:45,445
other way other reasons to call it something

1406
00:49:45,445 --> 00:49:47,670
else. By the way, those names are, like,

1407
00:49:47,809 --> 00:49:49,890
just little cutesy names. You could do call

1408
00:49:49,890 --> 00:49:52,070
it. In in the in the manual,

1409
00:49:52,369 --> 00:49:54,610
it call you say something about a service

1410
00:49:54,610 --> 00:49:55,110
committee.

1411
00:49:55,570 --> 00:49:57,349
Yeah. You know? Like,

1412
00:49:57,730 --> 00:49:59,255
there's a service committee. Well,

1413
00:49:59,954 --> 00:50:02,054
in in essence, that's what my lists are.

1414
00:50:02,194 --> 00:50:05,795
But nobody's there's no calling for them. There's

1415
00:50:05,795 --> 00:50:07,094
no nobody's assigned.

1416
00:50:07,474 --> 00:50:09,394
It's just do would you like to be

1417
00:50:09,394 --> 00:50:10,835
on this list? Would you like to get

1418
00:50:10,835 --> 00:50:12,594
these these texts, and would you like to

1419
00:50:12,594 --> 00:50:13,230
be involved?

1420
00:50:14,190 --> 00:50:16,190
So and then we don't have meetings. There's

1421
00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:16,929
no meetings.

1422
00:50:17,230 --> 00:50:19,070
So you don't necessarily with if someone moves

1423
00:50:19,070 --> 00:50:20,829
into the ward, they don't automatically go on

1424
00:50:20,829 --> 00:50:22,590
one of these lists. You, like, actually No.

1425
00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:25,090
No. I have to I recruit them. Okay.

1426
00:50:25,389 --> 00:50:27,630
And sometimes like, there's a guy right now

1427
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:28,289
that I've

1428
00:50:28,614 --> 00:50:29,914
I've reached out to

1429
00:50:30,215 --> 00:50:32,775
because he's, like, 64 and two two forty,

1430
00:50:32,775 --> 00:50:34,375
and he I know he can move a

1431
00:50:34,375 --> 00:50:34,875
piano.

1432
00:50:35,494 --> 00:50:37,335
And he's young, and I'm I'm waiting for

1433
00:50:37,335 --> 00:50:39,655
his response, but I don't know. May maybe

1434
00:50:39,655 --> 00:50:41,255
he's busy. You know? Maybe Sounds like he

1435
00:50:41,255 --> 00:50:43,355
needs some soup. But He's a young father,

1436
00:50:43,579 --> 00:50:44,719
so, you know, he's

1437
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:47,119
maybe he's maxed out.

1438
00:50:47,579 --> 00:50:50,860
Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. So that that's good. So

1439
00:50:50,860 --> 00:50:52,699
they're not just the it's not just the

1440
00:50:52,699 --> 00:50:55,199
quorum split up into three groups. These individuals

1441
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:57,119
you've invited to be part of,

1442
00:50:57,914 --> 00:50:59,114
the service. And and,

1443
00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:00,335
that so

1444
00:51:00,875 --> 00:51:01,855
let me reiterate.

1445
00:51:02,795 --> 00:51:05,375
That little group could be seen as

1446
00:51:06,074 --> 00:51:07,855
some kind of a little sub,

1447
00:51:08,315 --> 00:51:08,974
you know,

1448
00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:12,589
elite group of ministers, you know, that

1449
00:51:12,969 --> 00:51:15,210
and and there is some concern in the

1450
00:51:15,210 --> 00:51:16,589
word leadership about

1451
00:51:18,409 --> 00:51:20,909
use not the what's the word? Displacing

1452
00:51:22,565 --> 00:51:25,224
and taking away opportunities from the ministering

1453
00:51:25,525 --> 00:51:26,585
brothers and sisters.

1454
00:51:27,525 --> 00:51:30,025
And we we're trying not to do that.

1455
00:51:30,324 --> 00:51:32,005
That's why I say if the if a

1456
00:51:32,005 --> 00:51:34,404
project comes in, the I will look because

1457
00:51:34,404 --> 00:51:36,059
I have access. I I don't know how

1458
00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:37,820
many people do. Maybe it has to be

1459
00:51:37,820 --> 00:51:40,539
turned on. But I can see who the,

1460
00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:44,719
ministering brothers and ministering sisters are. Mhmm. So

1461
00:51:45,019 --> 00:51:47,599
let's say I find out that, you know,

1462
00:51:48,284 --> 00:51:49,184
brother Anderson

1463
00:51:49,724 --> 00:51:50,545
needs help.

1464
00:51:51,324 --> 00:51:53,964
I'll I'll look at brother Anderson's profile and

1465
00:51:54,125 --> 00:51:56,284
on on LDS tools, and I'll see, oh,

1466
00:51:56,284 --> 00:51:58,284
yeah. Well, he's got these two ministry brothers.

1467
00:51:58,284 --> 00:52:00,284
And I'll I'll send them a text because

1468
00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:01,984
nobody answers their phone anymore.

1469
00:52:02,364 --> 00:52:03,585
I'll send them a text,

1470
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:05,960
say, would you like to be involved?

1471
00:52:06,260 --> 00:52:08,260
You know, I understand you're the elder you're

1472
00:52:08,260 --> 00:52:10,920
the ministering brothers for brother Anderson,

1473
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:13,460
and he needs help with this. Could you

1474
00:52:13,460 --> 00:52:14,119
be involved?

1475
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:16,659
And then if they come back to me

1476
00:52:16,659 --> 00:52:19,400
in a relatively fast time frame,

1477
00:52:20,554 --> 00:52:22,714
then then I'll plug them in. They could

1478
00:52:22,714 --> 00:52:24,554
be the team lead. They could they could

1479
00:52:24,554 --> 00:52:25,914
do it. If there's two of them and

1480
00:52:25,914 --> 00:52:27,355
it's a two man job, they could do

1481
00:52:27,355 --> 00:52:27,855
it.

1482
00:52:28,714 --> 00:52:31,514
But what typically happens about 75%

1483
00:52:31,514 --> 00:52:33,309
of the time is I don't get a

1484
00:52:33,309 --> 00:52:34,210
response back,

1485
00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:36,670
or I get a response from one and

1486
00:52:36,670 --> 00:52:37,650
he's out of town.

1487
00:52:38,349 --> 00:52:40,109
So we just move ahead. But then they're

1488
00:52:40,109 --> 00:52:42,109
they're still in the loop because there might

1489
00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:43,170
be a follow on.

1490
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:45,569
So it's a way to tie in. Hey.

1491
00:52:45,824 --> 00:52:48,484
Now they know about this need of this

1492
00:52:48,784 --> 00:52:50,164
family that they have

1493
00:52:50,625 --> 00:52:53,525
that is their assignment. It's their priesthood assignment.

1494
00:52:54,144 --> 00:52:56,464
So it helps it helps the administering brothers

1495
00:52:56,464 --> 00:52:58,464
and sisters as well. Now I don't do

1496
00:52:58,464 --> 00:53:00,324
that typically on the sister side,

1497
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:02,809
but if it's,

1498
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:05,230
if it's a single sister, for example, I'm

1499
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:07,269
I might so I'm trying to get the

1500
00:53:07,269 --> 00:53:09,130
ministering brothers and sisters involved,

1501
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:11,670
and I I think that's an important part

1502
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:13,590
of this. Because, again, you don't wanna set

1503
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:15,690
up a separate system. That wouldn't be

1504
00:53:17,045 --> 00:53:18,264
that wouldn't be correct.

1505
00:53:18,644 --> 00:53:20,505
Yep. Yep. Very good.

1506
00:53:20,964 --> 00:53:23,204
And then anything like, as far as how

1507
00:53:23,204 --> 00:53:25,444
you are these just lists you have in

1508
00:53:25,444 --> 00:53:27,204
your phone that then you text them all,

1509
00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:28,804
like or do you have a different system?

1510
00:53:28,804 --> 00:53:31,219
I'm very informal about it, and Again. It

1511
00:53:31,219 --> 00:53:33,380
actually could be more structured, I suppose. There's

1512
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:34,839
people that are a little more organized.

1513
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:38,019
When I went on Salty Saints, one of

1514
00:53:38,019 --> 00:53:39,779
their guys talked about when he was an

1515
00:53:39,779 --> 00:53:42,679
elders corps president, he maintained a spreadsheet

1516
00:53:43,859 --> 00:53:45,000
of needs.

1517
00:53:45,875 --> 00:53:48,114
So, you know, people that needed service or

1518
00:53:48,114 --> 00:53:48,934
needed something.

1519
00:53:49,474 --> 00:53:50,135
And then

1520
00:53:51,155 --> 00:53:52,694
his service coordinator

1521
00:53:53,474 --> 00:53:54,454
and his counselors

1522
00:53:54,755 --> 00:53:55,815
could look at that

1523
00:53:56,434 --> 00:53:59,289
and then go, oh, I I know somebody

1524
00:53:59,289 --> 00:54:00,730
that can help that or that. You know?

1525
00:54:00,730 --> 00:54:01,929
I don't know how well that worked. I

1526
00:54:01,929 --> 00:54:03,630
haven't talked to him more, but that's another

1527
00:54:03,690 --> 00:54:05,550
another method that you could use,

1528
00:54:06,329 --> 00:54:07,150
or at least

1529
00:54:07,609 --> 00:54:10,269
they those things could work together. The list

1530
00:54:10,625 --> 00:54:13,424
and the the needs matrix could kinda work

1531
00:54:13,424 --> 00:54:13,924
together.

1532
00:54:14,224 --> 00:54:16,625
Yep. I'm not saying my my ways are

1533
00:54:16,625 --> 00:54:19,025
the only ways. There are other methods out

1534
00:54:19,025 --> 00:54:21,264
there, and I Yep. I could use some

1535
00:54:21,264 --> 00:54:22,005
more ideas.

1536
00:54:22,385 --> 00:54:24,389
Yep. Well, Ajax, I really appreciate you just

1537
00:54:24,389 --> 00:54:26,389
sharing all this and, yeah, let's keep the

1538
00:54:26,389 --> 00:54:29,609
conversation going in, over in the elders quorum,

1539
00:54:29,989 --> 00:54:32,309
group in, in Zion lab, as people have

1540
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:34,710
different experiences or thing they've, they've tried. Like,

1541
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:36,710
I'd like to start, you know, kind of

1542
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:39,304
interacting in that forum and see if, see

1543
00:54:39,304 --> 00:54:41,244
if other people have experiences and

1544
00:54:41,545 --> 00:54:43,964
yeah, things we can talk through. Good stuff.

1545
00:54:44,505 --> 00:54:46,184
Last question I have for you, Ajax is

1546
00:54:46,184 --> 00:54:47,784
as you reflect on your time as a

1547
00:54:47,784 --> 00:54:48,284
service,

1548
00:54:48,744 --> 00:54:51,144
coordinator for your elders quorum, how has this

1549
00:54:51,144 --> 00:54:53,144
role helped you become a better follower of

1550
00:54:53,144 --> 00:54:53,969
Jesus Christ?

1551
00:54:55,650 --> 00:54:57,650
Yeah. Like, like I was mentioning, I, I

1552
00:54:57,650 --> 00:54:59,190
have learned to be

1553
00:54:59,730 --> 00:55:00,230
more,

1554
00:55:01,650 --> 00:55:03,750
you know, how would Christ do this?

1555
00:55:04,289 --> 00:55:04,789
That's

1556
00:55:05,090 --> 00:55:07,730
questions. I'm asking myself more and more instead

1557
00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:09,405
of just how how can we get it

1558
00:55:09,405 --> 00:55:11,085
done? It's like, how can this be done

1559
00:55:11,085 --> 00:55:12,305
in a spiritual way?

1560
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:29,340
And that concludes this how I lead interview.

1561
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:31,480
I hope you enjoyed it. And, I would

1562
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,239
ask you, could you take a minute and

1563
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,159
drop this link in an email, on social

1564
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:37,164
media, in a text, wherever it makes the

1565
00:55:37,164 --> 00:55:38,924
most sense, and share it with somebody who

1566
00:55:38,924 --> 00:55:41,885
could relate to this experience. And this is

1567
00:55:41,885 --> 00:55:44,125
how we develop as leaders, just hearing what

1568
00:55:44,125 --> 00:55:45,724
the other guy is doing, trying some things

1569
00:55:45,724 --> 00:55:47,025
out, testing, adjusting

1570
00:55:47,404 --> 00:55:48,525
for your area, and,

1571
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,480
that's where great leadership's discovered. Right? So we

1572
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,640
would love to have you, share this with,

1573
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,700
somebody in this calling or a related calling.

1574
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,680
And that would be great. And also if

1575
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,579
you know somebody,

1576
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,880
any type of leader who would be a

1577
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,980
fantastic guest on the, how I lead segment,

1578
00:56:04,514 --> 00:56:07,255
reach out to us. Go to leadingsaints.org/contact.

1579
00:56:07,554 --> 00:56:09,875
Maybe send this in individual an email letting

1580
00:56:09,875 --> 00:56:11,875
them know that you're going to be suggesting

1581
00:56:11,875 --> 00:56:14,114
their name for this interview. We'll reach out

1582
00:56:14,114 --> 00:56:15,234
to them and,

1583
00:56:15,714 --> 00:56:16,835
see if we can line them up. So,

1584
00:56:16,835 --> 00:56:19,255
again, go to leadingsaints.org/contact,

1585
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:21,239
and there you can submit all the information

1586
00:56:21,619 --> 00:56:23,299
and let us know. And maybe they will

1587
00:56:23,299 --> 00:56:25,059
be on a future how I lead segment

1588
00:56:25,059 --> 00:56:26,599
on the Leading Saints podcast.

1589
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It came as a result of the position

1590
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of leadership which was imposed upon us

1591
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by the God of heaven who brought forth

1592
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a restoration

1593
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,739
of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

1594
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And when the declaration was made

1595
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concerning the own and only true and living

1596
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church upon the face of the earth,

1597
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We were immediately put in a position of

1598
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loneliness.

1599
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The loneliness of leadership

1600
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from which we cannot shrink nor run away,

1601
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and to which we must face up with

1602
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boldness

1603
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and courage

1604
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and ability.