1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Hey. If you're a newbie to Leading Saints, 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,439 it's important that you know what is this 3 00:00:09,439 --> 00:00:12,160 Leading Saints thing. Well, Leading Saints is a 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,299 nonprofit organization 5 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:16,005 dedicated to helping Latter day Saints 6 00:00:16,385 --> 00:00:18,704 be better prepared to lead. And the way 7 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:21,265 we do that is through content creation. So 8 00:00:21,265 --> 00:00:23,184 we have this phenomenal podcast, we have a 9 00:00:23,184 --> 00:00:25,125 newsletter, we have virtual conferences, 10 00:00:26,224 --> 00:00:28,510 so much more. 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Just such fantastic 34 00:01:32,489 --> 00:01:32,989 content. 35 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:35,129 And, part of that is we have these 36 00:01:35,129 --> 00:01:37,944 live streams where we'll take a specific topic, 37 00:01:38,325 --> 00:01:40,405 a specific calling and say, hey. Come one, 38 00:01:40,405 --> 00:01:42,165 come all. Whether you're in this calling or 39 00:01:42,165 --> 00:01:43,924 not, let's talk about it. What are you 40 00:01:43,924 --> 00:01:45,864 learning? What can we share with one another 41 00:01:46,084 --> 00:01:48,484 to, so that we're better prepared to lead 42 00:01:48,484 --> 00:01:50,424 if if we find ourselves in a similar 43 00:01:50,790 --> 00:01:53,530 calling. And, this episode is 44 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:56,390 a portion of the livestream we did all 45 00:01:56,390 --> 00:01:59,609 about being on the stake high council. Right? 46 00:01:59,750 --> 00:02:01,670 Tricky calling at times. Maybe it's one you 47 00:02:01,670 --> 00:02:03,750 could fly under the radar a little bit. 48 00:02:03,750 --> 00:02:06,090 Nobody notices what you're doing or not doing. 49 00:02:06,254 --> 00:02:08,414 But how do we really magnify our callings 50 00:02:08,414 --> 00:02:09,134 into this, 51 00:02:09,614 --> 00:02:11,875 in as a as a high counselor? So 52 00:02:12,334 --> 00:02:13,935 that person's coming to your mind. Right? The 53 00:02:13,935 --> 00:02:16,414 person you know, the brother, the uncle, the 54 00:02:16,414 --> 00:02:18,655 grandpa who serves on the high council, well, 55 00:02:18,655 --> 00:02:20,114 you need to drop this episode 56 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:22,259 in a in a text and send it 57 00:02:22,259 --> 00:02:23,699 on to them so they can benefit as 58 00:02:23,699 --> 00:02:26,599 well. A fantastic discussion. Let's jump into it. 59 00:02:26,819 --> 00:02:28,580 The live stream with a bunch of high 60 00:02:28,580 --> 00:02:30,199 councilors and and others. 61 00:02:35,219 --> 00:02:35,719 Hey, 62 00:02:36,995 --> 00:02:37,814 Hey, everyone. 63 00:02:38,194 --> 00:02:40,215 This is the high council livestream. 64 00:02:41,075 --> 00:02:43,075 Yes. I this is good, Jared. So we're 65 00:02:43,075 --> 00:02:45,715 we're we gotta identify the proper term as 66 00:02:45,715 --> 00:02:46,455 high councilor, 67 00:02:46,915 --> 00:02:47,974 not a high councilman. 68 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:50,879 So that's a let's just let's just argue 69 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:53,079 about that for sixty minutes. That'd be great. 70 00:02:53,079 --> 00:02:54,739 I think he has a high councilor. 71 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,039 That's I think that's how it is in 72 00:02:57,039 --> 00:02:58,180 the handbook. So 73 00:02:58,799 --> 00:02:59,539 very good. 74 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:00,979 Who wants to take 75 00:03:01,865 --> 00:03:03,385 take first crack at this as far as 76 00:03:03,385 --> 00:03:04,365 asking a question? 77 00:03:04,745 --> 00:03:06,585 Anybody want to raise your hand, 78 00:03:06,985 --> 00:03:07,485 and 79 00:03:08,025 --> 00:03:10,264 and share? Right now, I'm seeing Jay. Is 80 00:03:10,264 --> 00:03:11,705 that, do you have something to share, or 81 00:03:11,705 --> 00:03:13,004 did you leave your hand up? 82 00:03:13,909 --> 00:03:15,189 Oh, I must have just left my hand 83 00:03:15,189 --> 00:03:17,669 up. Okay. Well well, you're caught. So, tell 84 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:19,349 where are you from and what your how 85 00:03:19,349 --> 00:03:20,550 long you've been on the high council and 86 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:22,150 what your experience been like up to this 87 00:03:22,150 --> 00:03:24,550 point? Yeah. I am, as green as it 88 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:25,909 gets. So I'm on a I'm on a 89 00:03:25,909 --> 00:03:27,715 high council with a few people here who 90 00:03:27,715 --> 00:03:29,555 I can see in attendance. Our our stake 91 00:03:29,555 --> 00:03:30,055 president, 92 00:03:30,754 --> 00:03:32,754 notified of this a couple days ago and 93 00:03:32,754 --> 00:03:33,974 recommended that we join. 94 00:03:34,354 --> 00:03:36,294 So I see a couple of us here. 95 00:03:36,674 --> 00:03:38,514 Nice. Love it. We're in we're in Brush 96 00:03:38,514 --> 00:03:41,474 Prairie, a Vancouver Washington North Stake here in 97 00:03:41,474 --> 00:03:41,974 Washington. 98 00:03:42,435 --> 00:03:42,900 Nice. 99 00:03:43,459 --> 00:03:44,739 I've been on for a role of just 100 00:03:44,739 --> 00:03:46,439 a couple months. I got Okay. 101 00:03:46,979 --> 00:03:49,799 Assigned to serve with the Stake Young Women's 102 00:03:50,019 --> 00:03:51,699 presidency, and that that's been kind of a 103 00:03:51,699 --> 00:03:53,459 fun part of what I'm doing because I 104 00:03:53,459 --> 00:03:55,539 gotta keep working with the youth. I feel 105 00:03:55,539 --> 00:03:56,979 like I've been working with the youth for 106 00:03:56,979 --> 00:03:58,039 several years, and 107 00:03:58,735 --> 00:04:00,034 so I enjoy that part. 108 00:04:00,335 --> 00:04:00,835 Yeah. 109 00:04:01,295 --> 00:04:03,615 But, yeah, this has definitely been a new 110 00:04:03,615 --> 00:04:05,855 calling for me for sure. It seems very 111 00:04:06,254 --> 00:04:08,094 I don't wanna say open ended, but it 112 00:04:08,094 --> 00:04:09,635 it seems like you can do 113 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:13,469 as much as you want, and there's you 114 00:04:13,469 --> 00:04:15,310 could probably get away with doing very little 115 00:04:15,310 --> 00:04:15,870 as well. But, 116 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:18,910 Yeah. That's been the, that's kind of been 117 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:21,069 the ongoing joke, right, that depending on how 118 00:04:21,069 --> 00:04:23,389 a state presidency uses the high council, sometimes 119 00:04:23,389 --> 00:04:24,014 it's like, 120 00:04:24,735 --> 00:04:26,655 it's the, like, the only leadership calling you 121 00:04:26,655 --> 00:04:28,814 can sometimes go inactive. Like, people would not 122 00:04:28,814 --> 00:04:30,095 even know. It's like as long as you 123 00:04:30,095 --> 00:04:31,775 show up to the high council meeting. Right? 124 00:04:32,014 --> 00:04:33,295 But yeah. Because it is it can be 125 00:04:33,295 --> 00:04:36,920 very proactive calling, right, that or you're put 126 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,600 in charge of the buildings or these things 127 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,360 where yeah. There's things that pop up from 128 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,160 time to time, but, 129 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:43,639 other times, you know, there and there's a 130 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:45,879 lot of opportunity to be proactive as far 131 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:48,120 as engaging with the elders quorum presidency, really 132 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,439 be involved if you're assigned to award, things 133 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:51,339 like that. So, 134 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,314 anybody else want to, 135 00:04:53,855 --> 00:04:54,754 just either 136 00:04:55,055 --> 00:04:56,275 kinda ask a question, 137 00:04:56,814 --> 00:04:59,055 something you're excited about, something you're doing, something 138 00:04:59,055 --> 00:05:01,074 that's helped in in the high council role? 139 00:05:01,215 --> 00:05:02,915 Dan Daniel, go ahead. 140 00:05:03,215 --> 00:05:03,694 Hi. 141 00:05:04,254 --> 00:05:06,175 Yeah. Just just like it was mentioned, I 142 00:05:06,175 --> 00:05:07,955 too am am am semi new. 143 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:10,709 I'm loving being on the High Council. I 144 00:05:10,709 --> 00:05:11,209 love 145 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:14,729 working with the individuals, the state presidents, these, 146 00:05:15,269 --> 00:05:17,509 members and all the members of the High 147 00:05:17,509 --> 00:05:19,289 Council. They are amazing individuals. 148 00:05:20,389 --> 00:05:20,709 And, 149 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:23,689 I'm just curious with, with, 150 00:05:24,615 --> 00:05:26,314 the individuals here. Like, 151 00:05:26,854 --> 00:05:29,194 as a new person, like, the typical, 152 00:05:30,375 --> 00:05:33,175 speaking assignments, I love doing that. Love going 153 00:05:33,175 --> 00:05:35,574 to all the the wards and meeting the 154 00:05:35,574 --> 00:05:36,074 members. 155 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,620 But I'm also kind of looking for, 156 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,419 I feel kind of like the newbie, 157 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,339 in in 158 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:45,560 in the realm of of of the big 159 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,879 players, if that makes sense. And I'm just 160 00:05:47,879 --> 00:05:48,860 wondering how, 161 00:05:49,735 --> 00:05:51,834 if there's anybody that can share some inspiration 162 00:05:51,975 --> 00:05:54,375 or thoughts, how do you how do you 163 00:05:54,375 --> 00:05:55,514 grow in this calling? 164 00:05:55,894 --> 00:05:56,714 And how 165 00:05:57,095 --> 00:05:58,774 how do you come up with new ideas? 166 00:05:58,774 --> 00:06:01,115 Because in some ways, as mentioned, like, 167 00:06:01,620 --> 00:06:03,939 with with, you know, having to defer to 168 00:06:03,939 --> 00:06:04,839 the stake president, 169 00:06:05,139 --> 00:06:07,220 you know, you you have a lot of 170 00:06:07,220 --> 00:06:07,720 leadership 171 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:08,600 possibilities. 172 00:06:09,540 --> 00:06:11,959 And to me, it doesn't feel just kosher 173 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:14,100 or or good enough to just show up 174 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:14,759 and and, 175 00:06:15,495 --> 00:06:17,014 like, it feels like you really gotta hit 176 00:06:17,014 --> 00:06:18,875 a home run. Does that make sense? 177 00:06:19,175 --> 00:06:21,014 Yeah. So just to clarify, Daniel, are you 178 00:06:21,014 --> 00:06:23,735 saying you feel, like, just new in the 179 00:06:23,735 --> 00:06:25,654 in the world of of leadership, or you 180 00:06:25,654 --> 00:06:27,495 feel new in the ward that you're assigned 181 00:06:27,495 --> 00:06:29,089 to and attending, or what do you mean 182 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:30,889 by that? Yeah. I I don't know. Like, 183 00:06:30,889 --> 00:06:33,930 I I feel so overwhelmed by the individuals 184 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:35,850 I work with because the spirit and the 185 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:38,029 magnitude of what they bring is amazing. 186 00:06:38,649 --> 00:06:41,449 And sometimes I find myself feeling like, how 187 00:06:41,449 --> 00:06:43,725 do I get there? Even though I've already 188 00:06:43,725 --> 00:06:47,025 been a leader in in various presidencies already, 189 00:06:47,645 --> 00:06:50,064 this just feels like a step up, and 190 00:06:50,525 --> 00:06:51,965 I'm wanting to really hit it out of 191 00:06:51,965 --> 00:06:54,045 the park and and and do well for 192 00:06:54,045 --> 00:06:56,285 Heavenly Father and and well for the people 193 00:06:56,285 --> 00:06:58,305 that that I'm supposed to work with. 194 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,220 Yeah. 195 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,180 Yeah. 196 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,339 Alright. Let's go to, 197 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,759 I know you're not Anne Marie, but that 198 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,580 you're it's your wife's account, but go ahead. 199 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,620 Please. No. I'm fast web. 200 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,500 Okay. 201 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:13,860 Yeah. To answer, 202 00:07:15,454 --> 00:07:16,995 whoops. I don't see it. Yeah. Yeah. 203 00:07:19,935 --> 00:07:20,754 You know what? 204 00:07:22,254 --> 00:07:22,995 I've put 205 00:07:23,935 --> 00:07:26,014 for for I I've been member for forty 206 00:07:26,014 --> 00:07:27,474 four years, and 207 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:29,389 I've been clerk 208 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:31,870 for, let's say, thirty years, but 209 00:07:33,210 --> 00:07:35,790 apart. You know? I for a while, 210 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:41,295 quorum leader, 211 00:07:42,014 --> 00:07:44,754 Sunday school things, but I was always back 212 00:07:44,814 --> 00:07:45,715 to clerk. 213 00:07:46,175 --> 00:07:46,675 And 214 00:07:47,455 --> 00:07:48,355 as a clerk, 215 00:07:49,215 --> 00:07:49,715 I've 216 00:07:51,455 --> 00:07:52,194 been around 217 00:07:52,654 --> 00:07:53,555 all what is 218 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:54,620 church 219 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,220 leaders or 220 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:57,660 church 221 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,460 stuff or church callings and things. 222 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,500 I've always put everybody 223 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,379 at the same level as I am, 224 00:08:07,425 --> 00:08:09,824 and that's important. So that way, you don't 225 00:08:09,824 --> 00:08:12,645 feel any lower or any higher. 226 00:08:13,185 --> 00:08:14,085 Yeah. They're 227 00:08:14,865 --> 00:08:16,485 equal as you are. 228 00:08:17,745 --> 00:08:19,125 And to know 229 00:08:20,625 --> 00:08:22,564 what to do with your calling, 230 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,340 not 231 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:27,580 taking care 232 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,259 of my my English, 233 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,939 not with all 234 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,059 the others. 235 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,460 I read 236 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,820 five times 237 00:08:36,825 --> 00:08:38,445 the instructions of my calling 238 00:08:39,304 --> 00:08:40,524 when I was called 239 00:08:40,904 --> 00:08:42,365 as a council member. 240 00:08:43,705 --> 00:08:45,004 And from that day, 241 00:08:45,345 --> 00:08:45,845 my 242 00:08:46,184 --> 00:08:46,925 state president 243 00:08:48,184 --> 00:08:48,684 told 244 00:08:48,985 --> 00:08:51,325 me two times, have you read your 245 00:08:52,769 --> 00:08:55,250 your your things, your what you're supposed to 246 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:57,029 do? I said, yes. Five times. 247 00:08:58,049 --> 00:09:01,250 But five times, I would find other always 248 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:03,350 find things. So that way, 249 00:09:04,769 --> 00:09:05,990 it makes me 250 00:09:08,204 --> 00:09:08,704 decide 251 00:09:09,084 --> 00:09:10,144 what to do 252 00:09:11,565 --> 00:09:13,664 as I feel I should. 253 00:09:14,284 --> 00:09:17,004 I'll give you just one example. Every time 254 00:09:17,004 --> 00:09:19,164 a high council would come to my ward, 255 00:09:19,164 --> 00:09:20,144 our branch ward, 256 00:09:21,565 --> 00:09:23,105 he would just stand up, 257 00:09:23,690 --> 00:09:24,830 do the state callings, 258 00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:26,589 and sit down. 259 00:09:29,049 --> 00:09:29,950 What is this? 260 00:09:31,769 --> 00:09:32,730 So I said 261 00:09:33,289 --> 00:09:35,389 I didn't realize that I would be standing 262 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:37,769 up there one day. But when I stood 263 00:09:37,769 --> 00:09:38,269 there, 264 00:09:38,649 --> 00:09:39,309 the state 265 00:09:39,634 --> 00:09:40,294 presidency always tell 266 00:09:41,235 --> 00:09:42,134 us to 267 00:09:42,595 --> 00:09:45,654 say, we think about you. We love you. 268 00:09:47,075 --> 00:09:49,575 Tell the members that we, the state presidency, 269 00:09:50,355 --> 00:09:52,215 have think about you and love you. 270 00:09:52,595 --> 00:09:53,815 I would say 271 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:56,049 a thought 272 00:09:56,909 --> 00:09:57,490 in spiritual 273 00:09:59,949 --> 00:10:02,769 thought. Speaking about the state presidency, 274 00:10:03,230 --> 00:10:03,730 anything. 275 00:10:04,909 --> 00:10:06,049 Just a few seconds. 276 00:10:07,549 --> 00:10:08,769 After do the callings 277 00:10:09,644 --> 00:10:10,625 and sit down. 278 00:10:11,164 --> 00:10:13,264 And people said came to me and said, 279 00:10:13,804 --> 00:10:15,745 what is this? It's beautiful. 280 00:10:17,485 --> 00:10:20,284 They see us. They hear about us. They 281 00:10:20,284 --> 00:10:21,904 hear about the state presidency. 282 00:10:22,850 --> 00:10:25,009 They like it. They have we have to 283 00:10:25,009 --> 00:10:27,910 be visible. We have to give them 284 00:10:29,570 --> 00:10:31,970 a part of what we feel and we 285 00:10:31,970 --> 00:10:32,470 want 286 00:10:33,410 --> 00:10:34,550 to do to them. 287 00:10:35,090 --> 00:10:37,304 Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the point. 288 00:10:38,024 --> 00:10:39,245 Jamie, go ahead. 289 00:10:40,504 --> 00:10:42,184 So, my thoughts, I've been on the high 290 00:10:42,184 --> 00:10:43,945 council for about five years, and I did 291 00:10:43,945 --> 00:10:46,424 it before for about four years. And so 292 00:10:46,424 --> 00:10:48,105 there's a couple of things that I think 293 00:10:48,105 --> 00:10:49,004 are important. 294 00:10:50,069 --> 00:10:51,529 And I would say to the good brother 295 00:10:51,589 --> 00:10:54,149 who asked the question, the truth is sometimes 296 00:10:54,149 --> 00:10:56,230 you will feel the spirit more than somebody 297 00:10:56,230 --> 00:10:58,549 who's a little more seasoned. And the reason 298 00:10:58,549 --> 00:10:59,690 you will is because 299 00:11:00,230 --> 00:11:02,745 you don't understand and you're not taking advantage 300 00:11:02,804 --> 00:11:04,884 of the spirit. Because the spirit does amazing 301 00:11:04,884 --> 00:11:06,584 things with us. And so comparing 302 00:11:07,125 --> 00:11:08,745 one person versus the other, 303 00:11:10,164 --> 00:11:12,084 it's very easy to feel insecure in your 304 00:11:12,084 --> 00:11:13,845 calling. And the truth is we all fake 305 00:11:13,845 --> 00:11:14,824 it well sometimes. 306 00:11:15,370 --> 00:11:16,990 But the truth is the spirit, 307 00:11:17,769 --> 00:11:18,670 touches you. 308 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:20,970 What I would warn against is just you 309 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:21,629 get seasoned 310 00:11:22,090 --> 00:11:24,009 in your calling that you have to do 311 00:11:24,009 --> 00:11:25,790 different new creative ways 312 00:11:26,490 --> 00:11:29,325 that will cause you to invite the spirit. 313 00:11:29,325 --> 00:11:31,725 So when you're preparing for a lesson or 314 00:11:31,725 --> 00:11:32,465 or a talk 315 00:11:32,845 --> 00:11:34,705 or to go to that elders quorum, 316 00:11:35,325 --> 00:11:37,884 president or whatever it is that you're assigned 317 00:11:37,884 --> 00:11:38,545 to do, 318 00:11:39,884 --> 00:11:42,045 it's easy to take advantage of the spirit 319 00:11:42,045 --> 00:11:44,759 because we're always preparing talks. We're always doing 320 00:11:44,759 --> 00:11:46,539 certain things, and it's so easy. 321 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:47,659 And remember, 322 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:50,679 we are all the same. We all have 323 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,580 the same struggles. 324 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,379 It doesn't matter your calling because one day, 325 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,320 them callings don't matter. And so that's what 326 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,940 I would just share. So I would just 327 00:11:59,325 --> 00:12:00,065 feel comfortable 328 00:12:01,004 --> 00:12:02,684 in knowing who you are and the spirit 329 00:12:02,684 --> 00:12:05,245 is with you. And when you start feeling 330 00:12:05,245 --> 00:12:06,625 that you're losing your edge, 331 00:12:07,325 --> 00:12:08,925 figure a new way to do that, whether 332 00:12:08,925 --> 00:12:11,085 it's doing the Book of Mormon, go to 333 00:12:11,085 --> 00:12:13,425 the temple and preparing talks, whatever it is. 334 00:12:14,149 --> 00:12:15,750 That's what it is. That's what, that's what 335 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:16,649 I found works. 336 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:18,490 Brandon, go ahead. 337 00:12:20,070 --> 00:12:22,070 Yeah. I I agree with what's been said 338 00:12:22,070 --> 00:12:22,570 and, 339 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:25,049 just wanted to add that 340 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:27,049 I think it's critical 341 00:12:27,914 --> 00:12:29,455 that you view yourself 342 00:12:29,914 --> 00:12:32,735 part of your calling as a high councilor 343 00:12:33,034 --> 00:12:35,375 is to be part of the council. And 344 00:12:36,075 --> 00:12:37,214 you're there because, 345 00:12:38,875 --> 00:12:40,334 your voice matters, 346 00:12:40,634 --> 00:12:41,134 and 347 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:44,639 you should con you should feel comfortable contributing, 348 00:12:45,820 --> 00:12:48,059 sharing whatever the spirit is inspiring you to 349 00:12:48,059 --> 00:12:49,200 share, and, 350 00:12:50,379 --> 00:12:53,580 hopefully, learning from from that council. And I 351 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:54,080 think 352 00:12:55,054 --> 00:12:57,475 one of the things that, our state presidency 353 00:12:57,695 --> 00:13:00,335 has emphasized that I've appreciated is whatever your 354 00:13:00,335 --> 00:13:01,714 assignment, whether it's 355 00:13:02,495 --> 00:13:05,075 to award or, an organization, 356 00:13:06,730 --> 00:13:09,230 their hope for us is that we can 357 00:13:09,450 --> 00:13:11,929 actively participate and learn from those state council 358 00:13:11,929 --> 00:13:14,730 meetings and then take what we learned, the 359 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:17,529 leadership principles and the trainings, and go to 360 00:13:17,529 --> 00:13:18,269 our organizations 361 00:13:18,649 --> 00:13:20,029 to which we've been assigned 362 00:13:20,735 --> 00:13:23,154 and train and teach and help 363 00:13:23,855 --> 00:13:26,254 take, the things that we learn from the 364 00:13:26,254 --> 00:13:28,735 stake presidency and the state council out throughout 365 00:13:28,735 --> 00:13:30,735 the stake and to other leaders throughout the 366 00:13:30,735 --> 00:13:31,235 stake. 367 00:13:31,695 --> 00:13:33,394 So in addition to speaking 368 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:36,399 on a monthly or semimonthly basis, 369 00:13:37,259 --> 00:13:39,740 I've come to view that as a big 370 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:42,000 part of my calling on the high council 371 00:13:42,059 --> 00:13:42,379 to, 372 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:46,540 take those principles that I'm observing and learning 373 00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:48,855 from and the trainings that I'm that I'm 374 00:13:48,855 --> 00:13:49,355 receiving 375 00:13:49,815 --> 00:13:51,034 in those council meetings 376 00:13:51,815 --> 00:13:53,815 to the elders quorum and to the bishopric 377 00:13:53,815 --> 00:13:55,254 and the ward that I'm assigned to and 378 00:13:55,254 --> 00:13:56,715 then to those stake organizations, 379 00:13:58,215 --> 00:13:59,894 that I get a chance to to work 380 00:13:59,894 --> 00:14:00,389 with. 381 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:03,670 Awesome. Really good. I'm just curious. I'll just 382 00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:04,649 put this out there. 383 00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:07,750 Is it do you, anybody out there sense, 384 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:09,590 like, is, does your stake 385 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:12,149 I guess the question comes down to how 386 00:14:12,149 --> 00:14:14,309 does your stake presidency keep you engaged? I 387 00:14:14,309 --> 00:14:16,875 mean, there's always assignments, right, which lead to, 388 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:18,554 well, you know, those kind of those regular 389 00:14:18,554 --> 00:14:20,235 meetings I go to or I'm assigned to 390 00:14:20,235 --> 00:14:22,074 this ward, so I'm gonna, you know, go 391 00:14:22,074 --> 00:14:24,014 to that ward and, you know, 392 00:14:24,634 --> 00:14:26,394 follow-up with the elders quorum presidency here and 393 00:14:26,394 --> 00:14:28,954 there or whatever. Is there anything unique or 394 00:14:28,954 --> 00:14:31,214 a approach that just kinda keeps you engaged 395 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:33,690 as a high counselor? 396 00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:37,669 Daniel, go ahead. Yeah. I don't know if 397 00:14:37,669 --> 00:14:39,909 this is unique or not, but, I mean, 398 00:14:39,909 --> 00:14:42,009 our our state presidency definitely, 399 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:45,434 has our our our PPIs with us. 400 00:14:45,835 --> 00:14:47,215 We have our regular meetings. 401 00:14:47,995 --> 00:14:49,674 But one of the things I've really enjoyed 402 00:14:49,674 --> 00:14:51,355 doing that I think has brought us all 403 00:14:51,355 --> 00:14:51,855 together, 404 00:14:53,195 --> 00:14:55,115 that might be similar to the platform of 405 00:14:55,115 --> 00:14:56,254 what we're doing here, 406 00:14:56,634 --> 00:14:57,774 is we do, 407 00:14:59,079 --> 00:15:01,820 a report on each ward and our stake, 408 00:15:01,959 --> 00:15:04,200 and all of the corresponding members of the 409 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,940 high council 410 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:05,899 will, 411 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:09,100 report from the people that they oversee, 412 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:11,320 and then we'll come together as a high 413 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,899 council and bring that to the high council 414 00:15:13,959 --> 00:15:14,459 meeting 415 00:15:14,784 --> 00:15:15,845 and discuss it. 416 00:15:16,304 --> 00:15:18,625 And then we like to see things that 417 00:15:18,625 --> 00:15:20,004 are working really well 418 00:15:20,544 --> 00:15:23,024 and see areas where we can help bring 419 00:15:23,024 --> 00:15:24,725 in training and increase 420 00:15:27,139 --> 00:15:29,139 the cross the cross training from other wards 421 00:15:29,139 --> 00:15:30,740 of of things that are working well just 422 00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:33,059 to to try and get everything working smoother 423 00:15:33,059 --> 00:15:35,139 and better and and and in a stronger 424 00:15:35,139 --> 00:15:37,620 way. And I find that that that brings 425 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:40,264 us all closer together as we're working together 426 00:15:40,264 --> 00:15:41,945 as a high council, but also as we're 427 00:15:41,945 --> 00:15:44,825 working with the wards that we're responsible for 428 00:15:44,825 --> 00:15:45,804 connecting with. 429 00:15:46,825 --> 00:15:47,325 Awesome. 430 00:15:47,705 --> 00:15:48,764 Jared, go ahead. 431 00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:53,669 One opportunity that I had serving on the 432 00:15:53,669 --> 00:15:56,409 high council was this particular state presidency 433 00:15:57,909 --> 00:15:59,610 wanted each high councilor 434 00:16:01,269 --> 00:16:03,909 the Sunday that they were speaking in another 435 00:16:03,909 --> 00:16:07,029 ward to attend that ward's leadership meetings as 436 00:16:07,029 --> 00:16:09,485 well even though it wasn't their assigned ward. 437 00:16:09,785 --> 00:16:12,504 Interesting. Logistically, that was a little challenging because 438 00:16:12,504 --> 00:16:13,785 then you had to figure out, okay, I'm 439 00:16:13,785 --> 00:16:15,625 in this ward this week. When are your 440 00:16:15,625 --> 00:16:18,024 leadership meetings? The state presidency has asked me 441 00:16:18,024 --> 00:16:19,865 to come as if I were your normal 442 00:16:19,865 --> 00:16:20,605 high councilor. 443 00:16:21,579 --> 00:16:23,419 I think it was twofold. The first was 444 00:16:23,419 --> 00:16:26,139 to make sure that the appropriate messages and 445 00:16:26,139 --> 00:16:28,700 announcements and things were still distributed. They didn't 446 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,539 miss a week of things from the stake. 447 00:16:30,539 --> 00:16:32,539 But the second thing that I learned and 448 00:16:32,539 --> 00:16:33,679 probably more importantly 449 00:16:34,459 --> 00:16:37,524 was that high counselors could then see how 450 00:16:37,524 --> 00:16:40,325 different wards were doing the work differently to 451 00:16:40,325 --> 00:16:41,785 accomplish the same goals. 452 00:16:42,644 --> 00:16:44,985 And in the course of a year, visiting 453 00:16:45,125 --> 00:16:47,365 depending on your stakes, you know, seven to 454 00:16:47,365 --> 00:16:48,504 12 different wards, 455 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:51,910 Realizing, wow, it's really fascinating to see how 456 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:54,970 local leadership works to bring people to Christ. 457 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:56,649 And in some 458 00:16:57,190 --> 00:16:59,669 times very different ways, but still with that 459 00:16:59,669 --> 00:17:01,450 same goal in mind. And 460 00:17:02,315 --> 00:17:04,714 it just led to a really enriching experience 461 00:17:04,714 --> 00:17:07,134 for me personally to see how different bishoprics 462 00:17:07,355 --> 00:17:09,535 would operate, to see how different word councils 463 00:17:09,595 --> 00:17:10,335 would operate. 464 00:17:11,434 --> 00:17:13,194 And, I just found it to be a 465 00:17:13,194 --> 00:17:15,914 really fun experience even though logistically it was 466 00:17:15,914 --> 00:17:18,359 sometimes a little challenging. Yeah. I really like 467 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,740 that. And and I'm just thinking, 468 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,960 you know, for those maybe stakes that are 469 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,039 more spread out, it's like, I'm already already 470 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:25,960 driving fifty minutes to go speak in this 471 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,799 ward. And while I'm there, I'm gonna experience 472 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:30,194 their leadership meetings and things like that that, 473 00:17:30,835 --> 00:17:32,674 you know, that, like I said, maybe takes 474 00:17:32,674 --> 00:17:34,755 a few more texts or coordinating to figure 475 00:17:34,755 --> 00:17:36,755 out when when and where. But, yeah, I 476 00:17:36,755 --> 00:17:37,494 love that. 477 00:17:38,674 --> 00:17:40,454 Is it, Ventois. Right? 478 00:17:40,755 --> 00:17:41,894 Go ahead. Yeah. It's Ventois. 479 00:17:42,820 --> 00:17:46,039 Francois? Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'll follow Frank. 480 00:17:46,259 --> 00:17:47,400 I'll follow Frank. 481 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:48,359 Okay. 482 00:17:49,059 --> 00:17:50,119 I'm close to 483 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:53,059 the second counselor in the state, so we 484 00:17:53,059 --> 00:17:55,220 speak to each other very often. He's in 485 00:17:55,220 --> 00:17:56,840 charge of me. So 486 00:17:57,755 --> 00:17:58,654 it's fun. 487 00:17:59,514 --> 00:18:00,014 And 488 00:18:01,115 --> 00:18:02,974 the high council member 489 00:18:03,355 --> 00:18:04,575 of our ward 490 00:18:06,714 --> 00:18:09,595 lives in the ward that I watch over 491 00:18:09,595 --> 00:18:10,654 or I take care. 492 00:18:11,309 --> 00:18:11,809 So 493 00:18:12,109 --> 00:18:12,609 Valleyfield, 494 00:18:13,149 --> 00:18:13,649 Ocelaga, 495 00:18:14,269 --> 00:18:16,289 we so so we switch 496 00:18:18,909 --> 00:18:21,630 messages and callings, and and we 497 00:18:22,109 --> 00:18:24,429 I we we call each other and okay. 498 00:18:24,429 --> 00:18:26,190 Are you where are you? Where will you 499 00:18:26,190 --> 00:18:27,335 be? And so 500 00:18:28,755 --> 00:18:29,894 and the state counselor 501 00:18:30,274 --> 00:18:32,595 knows very well that we're 502 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:34,134 we get along, 503 00:18:34,515 --> 00:18:36,855 and I get along with the state counselor. 504 00:18:37,154 --> 00:18:37,654 So 505 00:18:39,315 --> 00:18:40,054 he sends 506 00:18:41,154 --> 00:18:41,654 things, 507 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:43,600 information, 508 00:18:44,140 --> 00:18:44,640 and 509 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:48,160 so we it's beautiful. 510 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:49,920 It's fun to 511 00:18:50,619 --> 00:18:51,759 be close to, 512 00:18:52,059 --> 00:18:53,200 and I I'm 513 00:18:53,580 --> 00:18:54,480 very easily, 514 00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:56,240 approachable. 515 00:18:57,180 --> 00:18:58,160 I can be 516 00:19:00,275 --> 00:19:02,535 I can get close to someone very easily. 517 00:19:03,154 --> 00:19:05,575 And and I take care of the financial 518 00:19:06,195 --> 00:19:07,494 the, committee 519 00:19:08,115 --> 00:19:10,134 financial committee for audit 520 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,019 and things like that. So I'm 521 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,320 very often in contact with 522 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:20,420 so it's it's important to be close 523 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:22,580 to one of the the 524 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,100 state presidency. 525 00:19:25,964 --> 00:19:27,265 And closer you are, 526 00:19:27,884 --> 00:19:29,505 easier it is to 527 00:19:30,204 --> 00:19:30,785 do your 528 00:19:31,484 --> 00:19:33,265 do your work, do your Yeah. 529 00:19:34,605 --> 00:19:35,664 Yeah. That's great. 530 00:19:36,285 --> 00:19:37,325 Anybody else there, 531 00:19:37,805 --> 00:19:39,805 or or have a a separate question or 532 00:19:39,805 --> 00:19:41,960 direction you wanna ask the group? 533 00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:44,599 Brandon, go ahead. 534 00:19:45,059 --> 00:19:47,220 Hey. I don't mean to share overshare, but, 535 00:19:47,539 --> 00:19:49,539 one thing that I found helpful, it's more 536 00:19:49,539 --> 00:19:50,359 just tactical, 537 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:51,160 is, 538 00:19:52,579 --> 00:19:54,500 we created a text thread among the high 539 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,000 counselors 540 00:19:56,444 --> 00:19:56,944 that 541 00:19:57,404 --> 00:19:58,765 or a text group that, 542 00:20:00,765 --> 00:20:03,904 we can just ask advice or references. 543 00:20:04,204 --> 00:20:05,804 Like, for example, one of the one of 544 00:20:05,804 --> 00:20:07,265 the other guys on the high council, 545 00:20:07,884 --> 00:20:08,384 shared 546 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,339 a note 547 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,700 in Apple's 548 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,900 notes app, 549 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,420 where he has 550 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:16,319 the wording for, 551 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,779 callings and releases. 552 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,079 And then if we're asked to do that 553 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:22,095 in wards, he just updates it, 554 00:20:22,494 --> 00:20:24,494 during the high council meeting or the state 555 00:20:24,494 --> 00:20:26,894 council meeting. And so everybody can just pull 556 00:20:26,894 --> 00:20:28,654 that up quickly, and it's already there to 557 00:20:28,654 --> 00:20:29,154 read. 558 00:20:30,015 --> 00:20:30,515 And, 559 00:20:31,214 --> 00:20:32,994 you know, we've used it for, like, 560 00:20:33,375 --> 00:20:33,875 your 561 00:20:34,309 --> 00:20:36,169 or you need to ordain an elder. 562 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:38,630 What's the process for that? Who who should 563 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:40,470 we invite to the meeting? Who leads the 564 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:42,890 meeting? Like, stuff like that. Very practical 565 00:20:44,069 --> 00:20:44,569 advice 566 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:47,269 or references in the handbook that are, you 567 00:20:47,269 --> 00:20:49,929 know, shared links just to to make, 568 00:20:51,144 --> 00:20:53,065 the calling easier because there is a lot 569 00:20:53,065 --> 00:20:55,065 of kind of administrative stuff you get a 570 00:20:55,224 --> 00:20:57,144 get pulled into. And so it's nice to 571 00:20:57,144 --> 00:20:57,644 have 572 00:20:58,184 --> 00:21:00,505 a group that you can quickly say, hey. 573 00:21:00,505 --> 00:21:02,345 Can you guys remind me how I'm supposed 574 00:21:02,345 --> 00:21:04,652 to do this? Or if I need to, 575 00:21:04,978 --> 00:21:07,587 extend a calling? Not everybody's been in a 576 00:21:07,587 --> 00:21:09,359 bishopric before or something. And so, like, what 577 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,220 is the process to do that? And, 578 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,079 that's been helpful to have that kind of 579 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:16,755 built in reference group for us to quickly 580 00:21:16,755 --> 00:21:18,994 check-in with each other and especially the more 581 00:21:18,994 --> 00:21:19,494 experienced 582 00:21:20,115 --> 00:21:21,875 members of the council can chime in and 583 00:21:21,875 --> 00:21:22,615 give advice. 584 00:21:23,955 --> 00:21:25,414 Awesome. Very good. 585 00:21:25,795 --> 00:21:26,615 Very good. 586 00:21:28,355 --> 00:21:29,955 And, of course, you know, you always come 587 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:31,089 back to some of these questions if you 588 00:21:31,089 --> 00:21:32,929 think of something. But, next question, I'm just 589 00:21:32,929 --> 00:21:35,109 curious with, you know, speaking assignments. 590 00:21:36,129 --> 00:21:38,129 We can insert all your high council jokes 591 00:21:38,129 --> 00:21:40,849 here. And but does your stake do anything 592 00:21:40,849 --> 00:21:42,210 unique? I know a lot of stakes are 593 00:21:42,210 --> 00:21:45,184 becoming it's more typical to have sort of 594 00:21:45,184 --> 00:21:46,325 a speaking companion, 595 00:21:47,184 --> 00:21:48,725 whether it's a, you know, a 596 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:50,085 stake leader, 597 00:21:50,625 --> 00:21:53,105 from the relief society, stake relief site presidency, 598 00:21:53,105 --> 00:21:53,924 primary presidency, 599 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:56,190 young women's presidency, those types of things. 600 00:21:57,389 --> 00:21:59,809 Anything that comes to mind as far as 601 00:22:00,190 --> 00:22:01,889 how speaking works or 602 00:22:02,269 --> 00:22:04,029 how you do it, how it's organized, what 603 00:22:04,029 --> 00:22:05,009 helps you prepare. 604 00:22:05,629 --> 00:22:07,549 Michael, go ahead. One of the things that 605 00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:10,029 we started doing, instead of being dependent on 606 00:22:10,029 --> 00:22:10,269 either 607 00:22:11,125 --> 00:22:11,625 because 608 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:12,664 typically, 609 00:22:13,204 --> 00:22:15,125 a member of the stake in women's presidency, 610 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,265 the relief studies presidency, 611 00:22:16,644 --> 00:22:17,544 and the 612 00:22:19,444 --> 00:22:21,845 the primary presidency, so we've got young those 613 00:22:21,845 --> 00:22:24,244 two organizations get assigned to speak with high 614 00:22:24,244 --> 00:22:26,230 councilors as well. But then you've got, in 615 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:27,990 our stake, then you've still got four or 616 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:29,929 five other wards where you've gotta find somebody. 617 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:32,069 So it's been, let's pull from the the 618 00:22:32,069 --> 00:22:33,049 return missionaries. 619 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:36,630 But now we've expanded it to, 620 00:22:37,589 --> 00:22:39,269 not only members of the Stake Youth Council, 621 00:22:39,269 --> 00:22:40,569 but youth in general. 622 00:22:41,705 --> 00:22:43,945 And I the last couple of assignments I've 623 00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:44,845 done, I've 624 00:22:45,225 --> 00:22:46,365 I've pulled youth, 625 00:22:47,705 --> 00:22:49,705 I've asked youth in the ward that I'm 626 00:22:49,705 --> 00:22:51,785 going to to yeah. After consulting with a 627 00:22:51,785 --> 00:22:53,404 member of the bishopric or whatever, 628 00:22:53,740 --> 00:22:55,099 and that's gone really well. 629 00:22:55,579 --> 00:22:58,079 Having a a mem a a a youth, 630 00:22:58,619 --> 00:22:59,440 that's been 631 00:23:00,059 --> 00:23:01,279 it's been really, 632 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:02,940 really good. I you know, I've been a 633 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:04,539 little bit nervous. You say, okay. You've got 634 00:23:04,539 --> 00:23:06,505 x number of minutes, and you think, okay. 635 00:23:06,505 --> 00:23:08,285 I'm gonna get three minutes out of this. 636 00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:10,424 But they've been really good at fulfilling the 637 00:23:10,424 --> 00:23:11,644 time and and 638 00:23:12,184 --> 00:23:13,484 and really teaching. 639 00:23:14,025 --> 00:23:15,785 So it's been another one of those things 640 00:23:15,785 --> 00:23:17,164 reminding us that the youth, 641 00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:20,424 they'll step up given the opportunity. So I'm 642 00:23:20,869 --> 00:23:22,309 that's been good to see us doing that. 643 00:23:22,309 --> 00:23:23,450 I'm liking doing that. 644 00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:26,250 That's awesome. That's awesome. 645 00:23:28,150 --> 00:23:29,690 Anybody else wanna share? 646 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:31,609 Yeah. Go ahead. 647 00:23:32,150 --> 00:23:32,970 Don't forget 648 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:34,410 that we 649 00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:35,930 represent 650 00:23:36,815 --> 00:23:37,474 the state 651 00:23:37,934 --> 00:23:38,434 presidency. 652 00:23:39,535 --> 00:23:40,674 We are exactly 653 00:23:42,095 --> 00:23:44,914 like the apostle or the seventies 654 00:23:45,454 --> 00:23:46,355 when they visit. 655 00:23:47,855 --> 00:23:50,194 It doesn't boast we shouldn't boasting. 656 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:51,429 We shouldn't 657 00:23:53,009 --> 00:23:53,670 be boasting 658 00:23:54,769 --> 00:23:55,589 ourselves. Anyway, 659 00:23:58,369 --> 00:24:01,250 You know, feel proud. Pride. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 660 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:01,910 We should 661 00:24:02,929 --> 00:24:05,329 know that we have something to bring to 662 00:24:05,329 --> 00:24:05,829 them. 663 00:24:06,914 --> 00:24:09,634 And they know that we are supposed to 664 00:24:09,634 --> 00:24:10,615 have something. 665 00:24:11,315 --> 00:24:12,695 Like, yesterday, I had, 666 00:24:13,154 --> 00:24:15,955 I I was with the primary I take 667 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:16,855 care of the primary 668 00:24:17,235 --> 00:24:19,235 in our state. So I was with them 669 00:24:19,235 --> 00:24:22,190 yesterday in their meeting, their their state meeting 670 00:24:23,849 --> 00:24:24,349 bureaus, 671 00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:25,950 meeting. 672 00:24:26,650 --> 00:24:29,769 And I was there, and every time they 673 00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:33,450 wanted information or knowledge, they would turn around 674 00:24:33,450 --> 00:24:34,669 to me and say, hey, 675 00:24:35,054 --> 00:24:37,694 brother, like, what? Do you what do you 676 00:24:37,694 --> 00:24:38,835 think about this? 677 00:24:40,894 --> 00:24:43,294 They asked me to do the spiritual thought 678 00:24:43,294 --> 00:24:45,474 at the beginning. So they know 679 00:24:45,855 --> 00:24:46,754 or they hope 680 00:24:47,869 --> 00:24:49,490 we will bring them something. 681 00:24:50,829 --> 00:24:51,970 We are like 682 00:24:53,869 --> 00:24:55,569 the seventies when they come. 683 00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:56,690 We 684 00:24:57,149 --> 00:24:57,649 are 685 00:24:58,269 --> 00:25:00,049 supposed to bring them. 686 00:25:00,585 --> 00:25:03,325 It's we don't have to be nervous or 687 00:25:03,625 --> 00:25:04,125 feel 688 00:25:04,825 --> 00:25:05,325 an 689 00:25:05,998 --> 00:25:07,085 and and 690 00:25:07,704 --> 00:25:09,005 Like, unworthy? Or 691 00:25:10,025 --> 00:25:11,325 Not worthy, but 692 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:14,204 capable or Yeah. Yeah. 693 00:25:15,419 --> 00:25:18,079 We should have the spirit and say, okay. 694 00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:19,039 What 695 00:25:19,419 --> 00:25:20,640 do they need? 696 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:24,000 And and bring them this. 697 00:25:24,380 --> 00:25:26,799 So so we are we are something 698 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,359 someone that they 699 00:25:30,605 --> 00:25:32,944 they not lean on, but they will 700 00:25:33,804 --> 00:25:34,304 read 701 00:25:34,684 --> 00:25:36,065 from us. Yeah. 702 00:25:36,605 --> 00:25:38,764 And you said the fifteen minutes before 703 00:25:39,244 --> 00:25:42,044 between wards, we have an hour Yeah. I 704 00:25:42,044 --> 00:25:43,585 bet. To reach wards. 705 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,080 Yeah. So it's 706 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,500 Leonard, do you wanna go ahead? 707 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:48,539 Yeah. 708 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Our state presidency assigns us a general authority 709 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,940 talk from general conference 710 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,900 that should serve as our guideline. 711 00:25:58,664 --> 00:26:00,424 But if we feel inspired, we don't have 712 00:26:00,424 --> 00:26:02,525 to stay too closely to it. 713 00:26:03,065 --> 00:26:03,565 And 714 00:26:04,265 --> 00:26:06,765 what our state president has been emphasizing, 715 00:26:07,545 --> 00:26:10,424 pardon me, is that we must speak about 716 00:26:10,424 --> 00:26:10,924 Christ. 717 00:26:11,529 --> 00:26:14,410 We must testify of him. It must be 718 00:26:14,410 --> 00:26:16,670 interwoven throughout our talks. And 719 00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:20,329 he promises us the spirit will be there 720 00:26:20,329 --> 00:26:21,470 when we do that. 721 00:26:22,009 --> 00:26:24,809 And, that has been an interesting change from 722 00:26:24,809 --> 00:26:27,414 other high councils I've served on. And then 723 00:26:27,414 --> 00:26:27,914 finally, 724 00:26:28,615 --> 00:26:29,335 we do, 725 00:26:30,295 --> 00:26:33,674 speak with an auxiliary leader, Sunday school, primary, 726 00:26:33,815 --> 00:26:35,515 relief society, young men's, 727 00:26:36,134 --> 00:26:36,535 and, 728 00:26:37,335 --> 00:26:39,414 they're our counterpart as we go about. And 729 00:26:39,414 --> 00:26:41,335 that's new to our stake here in Saint 730 00:26:41,335 --> 00:26:41,835 George. 731 00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:42,950 But, 732 00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:45,089 it's helped me get to know the leaders 733 00:26:45,089 --> 00:26:45,909 a lot better. 734 00:26:47,409 --> 00:26:48,789 Awesome. Love that. 735 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:51,909 And go to one comment here. 736 00:26:54,049 --> 00:26:55,970 Matt says, I always feel like I'm supposed 737 00:26:55,970 --> 00:26:57,669 to express the love of the stake presidency 738 00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:59,845 when I'm speaking, but it always feels awkward 739 00:27:00,065 --> 00:27:01,904 because no one has told that to me 740 00:27:01,904 --> 00:27:03,845 specifically. Does anyone feel that? 741 00:27:04,224 --> 00:27:05,984 Yeah. I think that's that's definitely a real 742 00:27:05,984 --> 00:27:06,484 feeling. 743 00:27:07,424 --> 00:27:09,585 And I think it's it's almost become kind 744 00:27:09,585 --> 00:27:11,264 of a rote phrase that we just use 745 00:27:11,264 --> 00:27:13,919 because we've heard so many others, you know, 746 00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:14,900 use it. So, 747 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,720 and then, Jared says, curious if any high 748 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,440 counselors are also serving as either the stake 749 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,079 young men's president or stake Sunday school president 750 00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,375 and how they are doing that dual 751 00:27:26,835 --> 00:27:27,335 responsibility. 752 00:27:27,795 --> 00:27:29,954 K. Go ahead. Well, I just I I 753 00:27:29,954 --> 00:27:32,434 like what Brandon how Brandon responded to Matt's 754 00:27:32,434 --> 00:27:33,894 comment, and I 755 00:27:34,515 --> 00:27:35,015 also 756 00:27:36,115 --> 00:27:37,414 felt weird at first 757 00:27:38,195 --> 00:27:38,695 expressing 758 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,480 love from the stake presidency without maybe specifically 759 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,940 having heard that first, but 760 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,000 I guess I have the unique experience of 761 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,240 serving with the stake president and bishopric before 762 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,180 I was called on the high council. 763 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,119 And it it is not a far stretch 764 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,414 for me to to express to them how 765 00:27:56,414 --> 00:27:58,835 I know he feels about them and how 766 00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:00,115 I know the stake presidency 767 00:28:01,054 --> 00:28:02,815 does feel about the members of their stake. 768 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:03,474 And I've 769 00:28:05,134 --> 00:28:06,755 I didn't do that the first 770 00:28:07,134 --> 00:28:09,679 few talks, and I maybe should have, but 771 00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:12,240 I, especially this this last month, expressed that, 772 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,820 and I felt much better about that having 773 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,539 told them that that they are, 774 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:19,700 seen 775 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,680 and thought about and prayed about and prayed 776 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,934 over, prayed for. 777 00:28:35,955 --> 00:28:38,250 That concludes this episode of the Leading Saints 778 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:40,090 podcast. 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We're 795 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:15,440 actually gonna cut it short a little bit. 796 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,345 If you wanna listen to the entirety of 797 00:29:17,345 --> 00:29:19,505 this conversation, head on over to the Leading 798 00:29:19,505 --> 00:29:21,505 Saints community. You can, find the link in 799 00:29:21,505 --> 00:29:23,424 the show notes, and you can watch the 800 00:29:23,424 --> 00:29:26,144 extended cut there, and I think you'll benefit 801 00:29:26,144 --> 00:29:27,585 from it. So come join us over at 802 00:29:27,585 --> 00:29:28,965 the Leading Saints community. 803 00:29:50,075 --> 00:29:52,494 It came as a result of the position 804 00:29:52,554 --> 00:29:55,454 of leadership which was imposed upon us 805 00:29:56,075 --> 00:29:58,650 by the God of heaven who brought forth 806 00:29:58,650 --> 00:29:59,630 a restoration 807 00:29:59,930 --> 00:30:02,190 of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 808 00:30:02,730 --> 00:30:03,869 And when the declaration 809 00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:07,450 was made concerning the own and only true 810 00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:09,769 and living church upon the face of the 811 00:30:09,769 --> 00:30:10,269 earth, 812 00:30:10,845 --> 00:30:13,424 We were immediately put in a position of 813 00:30:13,565 --> 00:30:14,065 loneliness. 814 00:30:14,444 --> 00:30:16,065 The loneliness of leadership 815 00:30:16,924 --> 00:30:19,984 from which we cannot shrink nor run away, 816 00:30:20,924 --> 00:30:23,404 and to which we must face up with 817 00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:24,865 boldness and courage 818 00:30:25,742 --> 00:30:26,402 and ability.