1 00:00:05,359 --> 00:00:07,919 How's your teaching calling going? Have you ever 2 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:10,000 asked a question during the second hour and 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,160 suddenly everyone is looking at the carpet in 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,660 silence? 5 00:00:12,974 --> 00:00:15,695 There are proven methods to stimulate class discussion 6 00:00:15,695 --> 00:00:17,074 that work like a charm. 7 00:00:17,375 --> 00:00:20,494 David Farnsworth does a masterful job presenting on 8 00:00:20,494 --> 00:00:23,314 this very subject in the Teaching Saints virtual 9 00:00:23,454 --> 00:00:23,954 library. 10 00:00:24,574 --> 00:00:26,850 What questions get people talking? How can you 11 00:00:26,850 --> 00:00:29,650 effectively listen to the answer they're saying without 12 00:00:29,650 --> 00:00:31,730 being distracted of where you wanna take the 13 00:00:31,730 --> 00:00:32,549 class next? 14 00:00:32,929 --> 00:00:35,729 These are crucial principles to consider, especially in 15 00:00:35,729 --> 00:00:38,149 this time of come follow me Sunday school. 16 00:00:38,289 --> 00:00:41,465 You can watch David Farnsworth's presentation by visiting 17 00:00:41,465 --> 00:00:43,965 leadingsaints.org/fourteen. 18 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:46,744 There, you can gain free access for fourteen 19 00:00:46,744 --> 00:00:49,385 days to the Teaching Saints virtual library where 20 00:00:49,385 --> 00:00:51,969 you'll find hours and hours of content to 21 00:00:51,969 --> 00:00:54,469 help you be a better prepared Sunday teacher. 22 00:00:58,050 --> 00:01:00,210 So my name is Kurt Frankem, and I 23 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:02,929 am the founder and executive director of Leading 24 00:01:02,929 --> 00:01:05,495 Saints and, obviously, the host of the Leading 25 00:01:05,495 --> 00:01:08,375 Saints podcast. Now I started Leading Saints back 26 00:01:08,375 --> 00:01:11,354 in 02/2010. It was just a hobby blog, 27 00:01:11,575 --> 00:01:13,495 and it grew from there. By the time, 28 00:01:13,814 --> 00:01:14,775 2014 29 00:01:14,775 --> 00:01:17,094 came around, we started the podcast, and that's 30 00:01:17,094 --> 00:01:18,239 really when it got some 31 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:21,040 traction and took off. 02/2016, 32 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,040 we became a five zero one c three 33 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,000 nonprofit organization, and we've been growing ever since. 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,340 And now I get the opportunity of interviewing 35 00:01:28,479 --> 00:01:31,200 and talking with remarkable people all over the 36 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,295 world. Now this is a segment we do 37 00:01:33,295 --> 00:01:35,854 on the Leading Saints podcast called How I 38 00:01:35,854 --> 00:01:38,334 Lead, and we reach out to everyday leaders. 39 00:01:38,334 --> 00:01:40,515 They're not experts, gurus, authors, 40 00:01:40,894 --> 00:01:43,534 PhDs. They're just everyday leaders who've been asked 41 00:01:43,534 --> 00:01:45,935 to serve in a specific leadership calling, and 42 00:01:45,935 --> 00:01:47,730 we simply ask them, how is it that 43 00:01:47,730 --> 00:01:49,829 you lead? And they go through some remarkable 44 00:01:49,890 --> 00:01:51,890 principles that should be in a book, that 45 00:01:51,890 --> 00:01:54,290 should be behind a PhD. They're usually that 46 00:01:54,290 --> 00:01:57,170 good, and, we just talk about, sharing what 47 00:01:57,170 --> 00:01:59,090 the other guy is doing. And I remember 48 00:01:59,090 --> 00:02:01,075 being a leader just simply wanting to know, 49 00:02:01,075 --> 00:02:02,594 okay. I know what I'm trying to do, 50 00:02:02,594 --> 00:02:04,355 but what's the other guy doing? What's working 51 00:02:04,355 --> 00:02:06,435 for him? And so that's why every Wednesday 52 00:02:06,435 --> 00:02:08,194 or so, we publish these how I lead 53 00:02:08,194 --> 00:02:08,694 segments 54 00:02:09,235 --> 00:02:09,814 to share. 55 00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:19,209 Hey. It's another How I LEAD episode. This 56 00:02:19,209 --> 00:02:22,329 time, we talk with Allison Schreiber just outside 57 00:02:22,329 --> 00:02:23,949 of San Antonio, Texas. 58 00:02:24,409 --> 00:02:26,810 And I love talking to people like Allison 59 00:02:26,810 --> 00:02:29,069 because she's had so many years, extensive 60 00:02:29,609 --> 00:02:30,109 experience 61 00:02:30,489 --> 00:02:33,294 with working with youth from, you know, formal, 62 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:35,754 church callings with with the youth, and and 63 00:02:35,754 --> 00:02:38,875 now she's serving as a seminary teacher, for 64 00:02:38,875 --> 00:02:40,895 six years now, going on her seventh year 65 00:02:41,034 --> 00:02:42,974 teaching seminary, early morning seminary. 66 00:02:43,275 --> 00:02:45,435 And, her engagement with the youth, the way 67 00:02:45,435 --> 00:02:46,495 she teaches them, 68 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:49,650 keeps them engaged and invites all to participate. 69 00:02:49,709 --> 00:02:51,310 There's a lot to learn here. She even 70 00:02:51,310 --> 00:02:53,709 talks about the edge method, which is definitely 71 00:02:53,709 --> 00:02:55,870 worth sticking around for. So you're gonna love 72 00:02:55,870 --> 00:02:58,875 this and be inspired by Allison's experience. So 73 00:02:58,875 --> 00:03:01,134 here's my interview with Alison Schreiber. 74 00:03:07,914 --> 00:03:09,995 All right. I'm here with Alison Schreiber. 75 00:03:10,314 --> 00:03:10,814 Alison, 76 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:12,439 tell me a little bit just some of 77 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:15,020 the various youth callings that you've had. 78 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:17,319 Let's see. I 79 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,419 young women's president, 80 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,180 stake young women's, 81 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,520 insta in young women's presidencies, and then I've 82 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,534 been in seminary. I've been teaching for about 83 00:03:26,534 --> 00:03:28,615 about six years. Oh, that's awesome. And I've 84 00:03:28,615 --> 00:03:31,254 planned youth conferences and treks and all sorts 85 00:03:31,254 --> 00:03:32,135 of things. So 86 00:03:32,455 --> 00:03:33,754 Awesome. Very cool. 87 00:03:34,294 --> 00:03:34,855 And what 88 00:03:35,335 --> 00:03:37,415 you're in Texas. What part of Texas? I'm 89 00:03:37,415 --> 00:03:40,189 in New Braunfels, Texas. It's a little town 90 00:03:40,189 --> 00:03:42,430 just North of San Antonio and just South 91 00:03:42,430 --> 00:03:43,090 of Boston. 92 00:03:43,469 --> 00:03:46,189 Awesome. Very cool. And so you're just one 93 00:03:46,189 --> 00:03:49,230 of those people, personalities that's always been drawn 94 00:03:49,230 --> 00:03:51,230 to the youth and you've always been called 95 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:52,449 to serve with the youth. 96 00:03:52,895 --> 00:03:55,294 That's what it feels like. Yeah. Yeah. It's 97 00:03:55,294 --> 00:03:56,594 been great. You don't mind? 98 00:03:57,375 --> 00:03:58,995 No. I don't I don't mind. 99 00:03:59,294 --> 00:04:01,294 That's cool. And so your current calling now 100 00:04:01,294 --> 00:04:04,415 is is the seminary teacher. Yes. Yep. That's 101 00:04:04,415 --> 00:04:06,840 my current calling right now. Awesome. So you're 102 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,439 on summer break then, and maybe in a 103 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:10,599 few weeks, we'll start up again? Yeah. We'll 104 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:12,919 start up again. And, yeah, it's about four 105 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:13,419 weeks, 106 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,160 so we're enjoying summer. I'm just sleeping in 107 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:17,980 a little bit. 108 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:19,904 Very cool. And, 109 00:04:20,384 --> 00:04:22,625 maybe just tell us what's the general, like, 110 00:04:22,625 --> 00:04:24,004 makeup of your seminary, 111 00:04:24,785 --> 00:04:26,404 the times you start, how many 112 00:04:26,785 --> 00:04:29,125 students show up, and how does that work? 113 00:04:29,904 --> 00:04:32,144 It varies. Our stake is set it up 114 00:04:32,144 --> 00:04:32,644 where 115 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:35,670 we have two words at our building and 116 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:38,550 a branch, but then we have, just just 117 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:40,550 south of us, another building. So we have 118 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:42,710 a bunch of high schools pretty nearby. And 119 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:44,089 so the kids can choose, 120 00:04:44,389 --> 00:04:46,230 do they wanna do early morning at our 121 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:48,550 building or at stake center, or there's a 122 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:49,394 couple of night classes 123 00:04:49,954 --> 00:04:51,014 that they could pick. 124 00:04:51,394 --> 00:04:54,055 And and so we have ranging 125 00:04:54,754 --> 00:04:56,435 last year, I'm trying to think if we 126 00:04:56,435 --> 00:04:59,414 had over 30 kids, maybe almost 40, 127 00:05:00,435 --> 00:05:02,034 but they were split up into two classes. 128 00:05:02,034 --> 00:05:04,115 So we have freshman, sophomore, and then junior, 129 00:05:04,115 --> 00:05:06,860 senior. And I've been teaching freshman, sophomore about 130 00:05:06,860 --> 00:05:07,680 the whole time. 131 00:05:08,060 --> 00:05:10,860 Awesome. Very cool. And so, 132 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:13,579 do you feel like you figured some things 133 00:05:13,579 --> 00:05:15,419 out just from teaching youth? Has it become 134 00:05:15,419 --> 00:05:17,100 a natural has it just come natural for 135 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:19,019 you, or are you always, like, testing different 136 00:05:19,019 --> 00:05:21,035 things to to connect with you? 137 00:05:21,415 --> 00:05:23,654 Testing different things because you just never know. 138 00:05:23,654 --> 00:05:27,014 Like, how are boys learning compared to girls? 139 00:05:27,014 --> 00:05:27,514 And 140 00:05:28,055 --> 00:05:29,834 and also, I think I kind of gauge 141 00:05:31,014 --> 00:05:32,615 what I like to do too, and I'm 142 00:05:32,615 --> 00:05:34,259 like, well, I hope they like this too. 143 00:05:34,259 --> 00:05:35,860 I like a lot of games. I like 144 00:05:35,860 --> 00:05:36,759 a lot of interactive. 145 00:05:37,459 --> 00:05:37,959 But, 146 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,740 when I was growing up, I always worried 147 00:05:40,740 --> 00:05:43,060 about being bored. That was my I'm like, 148 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:44,899 oh, this is boring. Oh, this is boring. 149 00:05:44,899 --> 00:05:46,419 And so when I think about something, I'm 150 00:05:46,419 --> 00:05:48,040 like, well, how can I make this 151 00:05:48,805 --> 00:05:50,725 relatable? How can I make this a little 152 00:05:50,725 --> 00:05:51,464 bit more 153 00:05:52,084 --> 00:05:54,485 more fun, exciting, especially at six in the 154 00:05:54,485 --> 00:05:54,985 morning? 155 00:05:55,444 --> 00:05:57,605 Yeah. And you're doing this I mean, it's 156 00:05:57,605 --> 00:05:59,685 it's five days a week. Right? We do 157 00:05:59,685 --> 00:06:01,870 four, which is really nice. So Oh, cool. 158 00:06:01,870 --> 00:06:03,550 Yeah. It used to be five, and then 159 00:06:03,550 --> 00:06:04,990 it changed to four. And we're all like, 160 00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:05,730 oh my goodness. 161 00:06:06,189 --> 00:06:08,350 This is really nice. So you take Friday 162 00:06:08,350 --> 00:06:11,009 off? Or Yes. Take Friday off. Yeah. Gotcha. 163 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:13,170 And, I mean, doing that day to day, 164 00:06:13,805 --> 00:06:15,805 that can be overwhelming. Right? To because sometimes 165 00:06:15,805 --> 00:06:17,665 when you're thinking games, I'm sure there's 166 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:20,444 there's props that go along or handouts or, 167 00:06:20,444 --> 00:06:22,204 you know, you can they kinda all pile 168 00:06:22,204 --> 00:06:22,704 up. 169 00:06:23,245 --> 00:06:25,165 They they really do. And then you don't 170 00:06:25,165 --> 00:06:27,404 wanna have it be, like, game heavy. And 171 00:06:27,404 --> 00:06:28,925 then Yeah. You know, how do you fit 172 00:06:28,925 --> 00:06:29,220 the gospel 173 00:06:30,259 --> 00:06:32,279 in every you can't have a 174 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:33,379 a big game every day. But, you know, 175 00:06:33,379 --> 00:06:35,379 a little something and kind of a grabber, 176 00:06:35,379 --> 00:06:37,220 you know, a hook or, you know, something. 177 00:06:37,220 --> 00:06:39,399 A hook that doesn't sound great, but 178 00:06:39,699 --> 00:06:43,160 something to get them excited or inter interested, 179 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:44,360 at least interested. 180 00:06:45,084 --> 00:06:47,245 So Yeah. And this is tricky because I 181 00:06:47,245 --> 00:06:49,185 I imagine a lot of youth leaders, they, 182 00:06:49,485 --> 00:06:50,605 you know, they they don't want it to 183 00:06:50,605 --> 00:06:53,084 be boring. Right? Especially early morning, some of 184 00:06:53,084 --> 00:06:55,904 the students may be falling asleep. And so 185 00:06:56,204 --> 00:06:58,930 sometimes they overcorrect and, you know, bring bring 186 00:06:58,930 --> 00:07:01,089 treats and play games. And then it's more 187 00:07:01,089 --> 00:07:02,529 of like, what are we doing here? Are 188 00:07:02,529 --> 00:07:04,290 we even learning the gospel? Right? So how 189 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:05,509 do you strike that balance? 190 00:07:06,769 --> 00:07:09,329 I try the first year I taught, I 191 00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:09,889 was really 192 00:07:11,235 --> 00:07:12,675 not a little bit overwhelmed, but it's like 193 00:07:12,675 --> 00:07:14,754 when you don't have that experience, it's like, 194 00:07:14,754 --> 00:07:17,074 am I teaching Sunday school five days a 195 00:07:17,074 --> 00:07:18,675 week? I mean, because that's what it kind 196 00:07:18,675 --> 00:07:20,675 of feels like. But it really isn't meant 197 00:07:20,675 --> 00:07:23,394 to be like that exactly. So I try 198 00:07:23,394 --> 00:07:25,050 and I try to, like, all right. Oh, 199 00:07:25,050 --> 00:07:26,490 I could bring treats in. Oh, I could 200 00:07:26,490 --> 00:07:28,009 do this. Oh, I could do a game. 201 00:07:28,009 --> 00:07:30,089 But now that I, after six years of 202 00:07:30,089 --> 00:07:30,589 it, 203 00:07:31,050 --> 00:07:33,050 I really try to focus on, does this 204 00:07:33,050 --> 00:07:35,230 treat have a reason for bringing it? 205 00:07:36,250 --> 00:07:37,689 You know, so I try to fit it 206 00:07:37,689 --> 00:07:39,550 in where like, does this work? 207 00:07:40,474 --> 00:07:42,414 Recently we had a lesson on 208 00:07:42,714 --> 00:07:43,694 the law of chastity. 209 00:07:44,394 --> 00:07:45,914 And so I thought, well, what's a real 210 00:07:45,914 --> 00:07:47,675 comfort thing? And we tried to talk about, 211 00:07:47,675 --> 00:07:49,354 you know, like there's the meat of the 212 00:07:49,354 --> 00:07:50,794 gospel and the milk of the gospel, and 213 00:07:50,794 --> 00:07:52,235 it went along with the lesson. And so 214 00:07:52,235 --> 00:07:53,754 I brought in milk and cookies and I'm 215 00:07:53,754 --> 00:07:55,689 like, milk and cookies, kind of bring it 216 00:07:55,689 --> 00:07:57,470 in, like, what's a tough conversation? 217 00:07:58,169 --> 00:08:00,009 Let's do milk and cookies. And so we 218 00:08:00,009 --> 00:08:02,169 brought in milk and, you know, chocolate milk. 219 00:08:02,169 --> 00:08:03,769 And then I had all these different Oreos 220 00:08:03,769 --> 00:08:05,310 so they could try it where it's like, 221 00:08:05,370 --> 00:08:07,449 this is gonna, could be a tough conversation, 222 00:08:07,449 --> 00:08:08,750 but this is an important 223 00:08:09,314 --> 00:08:11,235 conversation. And so that's I kind of hear 224 00:08:11,235 --> 00:08:11,814 it where 225 00:08:12,354 --> 00:08:14,615 treats match what's going on in the lesson. 226 00:08:15,235 --> 00:08:17,074 Yeah. Do you do you always aim with 227 00:08:17,074 --> 00:08:18,774 each class to have some type of 228 00:08:19,634 --> 00:08:22,134 item to engage whether those are treats or 229 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:24,709 an activity or I mean, are do you 230 00:08:24,709 --> 00:08:27,029 feel like that's absolutely crucial, or do you 231 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:29,589 find yourself sometimes we're just taking terms, you 232 00:08:29,589 --> 00:08:31,509 know, reading a a verse in this block 233 00:08:31,509 --> 00:08:32,230 of scriptures? Or 234 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:34,389 Yeah. Yes. And I 235 00:08:35,045 --> 00:08:37,045 because, yeah, again, like, you can't have a 236 00:08:37,045 --> 00:08:38,965 game every single day. And I always like 237 00:08:38,965 --> 00:08:40,565 to keep them guessing where it's not like, 238 00:08:40,565 --> 00:08:42,245 oh, we're gonna play, you know, this every 239 00:08:42,245 --> 00:08:44,644 day. And I only let things last so 240 00:08:44,644 --> 00:08:47,845 long. I like to do, my version of 241 00:08:47,845 --> 00:08:48,985 Dungeons and Dragons, 242 00:08:49,769 --> 00:08:50,909 in every, like, 243 00:08:51,370 --> 00:08:53,209 book of scripture kind of thing. So like 244 00:08:53,209 --> 00:08:54,809 Old Testament, I have a couple that I 245 00:08:54,809 --> 00:08:56,570 do. And Book of Mormon, I have a 246 00:08:56,570 --> 00:08:58,909 couple, and Doctrine and Covenants and New Testament. 247 00:08:59,690 --> 00:09:01,209 But they can only last so long because 248 00:09:01,209 --> 00:09:02,570 you can't do I mean, we could do 249 00:09:02,570 --> 00:09:03,975 that for a month, but we're not going 250 00:09:03,975 --> 00:09:05,914 to. It's like we're gonna take two days, 251 00:09:06,214 --> 00:09:08,455 and then we'll and we'll do this. Or, 252 00:09:09,254 --> 00:09:11,274 what did we do? We did secret Sanhedrin, 253 00:09:11,414 --> 00:09:12,394 like secret Hitler, 254 00:09:12,774 --> 00:09:15,174 and you can only do that so long 255 00:09:15,174 --> 00:09:17,070 too. You know? It's fun. And it's 256 00:09:17,629 --> 00:09:20,269 it's fun, get them excited, but it can't 257 00:09:20,590 --> 00:09:22,029 I mean, we do it for that every 258 00:09:22,029 --> 00:09:22,850 day. But 259 00:09:23,470 --> 00:09:25,230 it doesn't you know, we wanna can make 260 00:09:25,230 --> 00:09:27,090 those possible connections as well. 261 00:09:27,470 --> 00:09:28,370 Yeah. Yeah. 262 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:30,429 And I wanna you know, you sent me 263 00:09:30,429 --> 00:09:32,945 some some principles here that is that kinda 264 00:09:32,945 --> 00:09:35,345 keep you focused on on how to engage 265 00:09:35,345 --> 00:09:37,345 and teach and Yes. Interact with youth. And 266 00:09:37,345 --> 00:09:39,925 the first one is making gospel connections. And, 267 00:09:40,625 --> 00:09:42,785 anything else you haven't already said that helps 268 00:09:42,785 --> 00:09:45,504 you, you know, make those gospel connections as 269 00:09:45,504 --> 00:09:47,159 you're teaching or interacting with youth? 270 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:50,199 I think a lot of planning. I mean, 271 00:09:50,199 --> 00:09:52,519 I I feel like I have seminary and 272 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:54,759 my class on my mind all the time, 273 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:56,839 and I'm thankful that my kids are in 274 00:09:56,839 --> 00:09:58,919 that class. So I've taught all four of 275 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:00,379 my kids. And 276 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:00,919 I 277 00:10:01,924 --> 00:10:04,004 they're all just sitting in my head and 278 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:05,284 as I go through my day or as 279 00:10:05,284 --> 00:10:07,444 I go through my personal study, as well 280 00:10:07,444 --> 00:10:09,284 as studying the lesson that's going to be 281 00:10:09,284 --> 00:10:11,384 coming up. Where I think about them individually, 282 00:10:11,444 --> 00:10:13,464 there's a lot of planning that goes in, 283 00:10:14,370 --> 00:10:16,049 as you prepare for the youth. I feel 284 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:18,210 like because you wanna be deliberate with the 285 00:10:18,210 --> 00:10:20,370 gospel. I mean, you want them to see 286 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:22,370 those gospel connections. Like, why are we doing 287 00:10:22,370 --> 00:10:24,769 this? We're you know, I guess we get 288 00:10:24,769 --> 00:10:26,450 Sunday, but like, how do we make this 289 00:10:26,450 --> 00:10:28,585 go through the whole week? And so a 290 00:10:28,585 --> 00:10:30,825 lot of thought and a lot of planning, 291 00:10:30,825 --> 00:10:32,745 and sometimes it's the last time to scramble 292 00:10:32,745 --> 00:10:34,504 because I've thought and plan too long in 293 00:10:34,504 --> 00:10:35,865 my head where I, like, have to sit 294 00:10:35,865 --> 00:10:36,764 down and, 295 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:39,705 okay, how do I make this work? And 296 00:10:39,705 --> 00:10:41,304 a lot of prayers, a lot of thought 297 00:10:41,304 --> 00:10:42,365 and a lot of prayer. 298 00:10:42,740 --> 00:10:45,480 Yeah. The planning is my is key. Yeah. 299 00:10:46,259 --> 00:10:46,759 Awesome. 300 00:10:47,299 --> 00:10:48,899 And you gave me sort of a laundry 301 00:10:48,899 --> 00:10:51,539 list of, maybe examples or context in which 302 00:10:51,539 --> 00:10:53,139 you you try to do this, everything from, 303 00:10:53,139 --> 00:10:56,644 you know, patriarchal blessings to trek to seminary 304 00:10:56,705 --> 00:10:58,144 graduation. I don't know if you wanna pick 305 00:10:58,144 --> 00:10:59,904 one. I'm curious if there's a a certain 306 00:10:59,904 --> 00:11:01,825 story or a narrative, but how does this 307 00:11:01,825 --> 00:11:02,965 look like in real life? 308 00:11:03,504 --> 00:11:04,565 In real life, 309 00:11:05,345 --> 00:11:05,845 I 310 00:11:06,545 --> 00:11:08,485 love making sure all of them 311 00:11:09,029 --> 00:11:11,909 are recognized. Like, every one of them has 312 00:11:11,909 --> 00:11:12,409 meaning, 313 00:11:12,949 --> 00:11:14,949 not just in the grand scheme of their 314 00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:15,449 life, 315 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:18,970 a but in in our class in seminary. 316 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:21,365 And so then they can see, like, where 317 00:11:21,365 --> 00:11:23,284 do they fit in in church? How do 318 00:11:23,284 --> 00:11:25,544 I get them to make those connections? 319 00:11:26,325 --> 00:11:28,345 And so I try to recognize them 320 00:11:28,725 --> 00:11:30,345 and I try to like, 321 00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:33,284 not single out isn't the right word, but 322 00:11:33,284 --> 00:11:35,625 like, but get every single one of them 323 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:37,750 feeling important and needed 324 00:11:38,289 --> 00:11:40,769 and that their voice is part of our 325 00:11:40,769 --> 00:11:42,610 class. Because, you know, you always have the 326 00:11:42,610 --> 00:11:44,129 ones, like, the few that are like, oh, 327 00:11:44,129 --> 00:11:45,730 they have the answers and it's so great 328 00:11:45,730 --> 00:11:47,649 and I love that. I love them. I 329 00:11:47,649 --> 00:11:49,715 need them. But then you wanna get everyone 330 00:11:49,715 --> 00:11:51,394 engaged. Like how do you get the ones 331 00:11:51,394 --> 00:11:54,195 who have their head down and have their 332 00:11:54,195 --> 00:11:56,434 Buc ee's hoodie over there? You know, their 333 00:11:56,434 --> 00:11:58,514 head and their not pretty scared. How can 334 00:11:58,514 --> 00:12:00,774 I get them to be part of it? 335 00:12:00,995 --> 00:12:01,495 And 336 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:03,919 helping them see how the gospel can be 337 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:04,659 such a strength 338 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,860 in their life. 339 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:08,159 And are you sort of just sort of, 340 00:12:08,159 --> 00:12:09,919 you know, monitoring that as you go? You've 341 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,019 we haven't really heard from these two, and 342 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,600 are you calling on them? Are you how 343 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,279 are you engaging those that are have sort 344 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:16,259 of stepped back? 345 00:12:16,634 --> 00:12:19,434 Well, I'm always watching, and I never like 346 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:22,315 to push, you know? I will always I 347 00:12:22,315 --> 00:12:25,115 will invite and tell, you know, whatever. But 348 00:12:25,115 --> 00:12:27,675 I've never had anyone say no yet. I 349 00:12:27,675 --> 00:12:29,274 say that, and I'm like, I hope no 350 00:12:29,274 --> 00:12:30,850 one one hope no one ever does. But 351 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:32,709 I try to get them to feel comfortable 352 00:12:32,769 --> 00:12:35,409 and part of it. And we do a 353 00:12:35,409 --> 00:12:37,330 little present like, we have a president and 354 00:12:37,330 --> 00:12:39,269 then a system president and a secretary 355 00:12:40,129 --> 00:12:42,289 and a chorister. And I'm like, even if 356 00:12:42,289 --> 00:12:43,970 you've never done anything like this, even if 357 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:45,944 you've never led music, I can teach you 358 00:12:45,944 --> 00:12:47,964 how to lead music. Like that's not hard. 359 00:12:48,024 --> 00:12:50,105 Do your name in cursive and no one 360 00:12:50,105 --> 00:12:52,024 knows what you're doing. Like just stand up 361 00:12:52,024 --> 00:12:53,245 and try. 362 00:12:53,784 --> 00:12:55,304 And so I've gotten a lot of those 363 00:12:55,304 --> 00:12:57,065 that are in the back to move forward, 364 00:12:57,065 --> 00:12:59,485 switching them around, putting them in pairs, 365 00:13:01,059 --> 00:13:03,139 getting them and a lot of them, so 366 00:13:03,139 --> 00:13:05,059 they're very reluctant. You know? Oh, no. I'm 367 00:13:05,059 --> 00:13:06,980 not sitting by my people or whatever. And 368 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:08,440 I'm like, no. We are all 369 00:13:08,899 --> 00:13:11,460 the people. Like, everywhere, all best friends. And 370 00:13:11,460 --> 00:13:13,860 that's my announcement every first day. We are 371 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:15,080 now all best friends. 372 00:13:15,914 --> 00:13:17,615 Yeah. These are your people. 373 00:13:18,794 --> 00:13:21,434 Love it. Awesome. Any other examples that that 374 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:22,254 come to mind? 375 00:13:22,715 --> 00:13:25,355 I'm curious. Maybe, like, you put with Trek, 376 00:13:25,355 --> 00:13:27,754 get them excited before events. What is what 377 00:13:27,754 --> 00:13:29,339 do you mean by that? So we just 378 00:13:29,339 --> 00:13:31,419 did a trek, and while I'm not in 379 00:13:31,419 --> 00:13:32,620 the steak or, 380 00:13:34,059 --> 00:13:36,139 like a mom or anything, just getting the 381 00:13:36,139 --> 00:13:37,759 kids that were are in my, 382 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:40,379 my area, my ward, a bunch of the 383 00:13:40,379 --> 00:13:42,559 moms, we all got together, and we planned, 384 00:13:43,154 --> 00:13:44,754 how how do we get them excited? Our 385 00:13:44,754 --> 00:13:46,455 state really didn't plan anything. 386 00:13:47,714 --> 00:13:48,914 So we're like, all right, how do we 387 00:13:48,914 --> 00:13:50,355 get they're supposed to walk for a person. 388 00:13:50,355 --> 00:13:51,634 All right. Well, let's figure out who they 389 00:13:51,634 --> 00:13:53,154 can walk to walk for. And we had 390 00:13:53,154 --> 00:13:54,595 a bunch of books out and, like, who 391 00:13:54,595 --> 00:13:56,379 could we walk for? And let's look at 392 00:13:56,379 --> 00:13:58,860 some of these, you know, pioneers and saints 393 00:13:58,860 --> 00:14:00,459 that we could walk for and learning more 394 00:14:00,459 --> 00:14:02,299 about them and watching a few of the 395 00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:04,539 movies to get them excited. And we went 396 00:14:04,539 --> 00:14:05,200 to Goodwill 397 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:08,220 and bought clothes and everybody kind of figured 398 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:09,820 out what clothes they could wear and hats 399 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:11,955 and things. And and it just getting 400 00:14:12,335 --> 00:14:14,335 them excited. I feel like that's a big 401 00:14:14,335 --> 00:14:15,934 thing for youth. It's like, how do we 402 00:14:15,934 --> 00:14:18,754 get them excited and want to do this? 403 00:14:19,934 --> 00:14:22,894 So with the the seminary so your seminary, 404 00:14:22,894 --> 00:14:23,554 you cover 405 00:14:24,169 --> 00:14:25,929 a handful of of stakes, or is it 406 00:14:25,929 --> 00:14:28,570 one one stake? It's one one stake. Okay. 407 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:30,509 And so we have a handful of wards. 408 00:14:30,730 --> 00:14:31,450 Okay. So it's like 409 00:14:32,570 --> 00:14:33,529 And and so do you 410 00:14:34,409 --> 00:14:36,129 I mean, obviously, you're aware of maybe a 411 00:14:36,129 --> 00:14:37,929 a trek coming up or an activity, and 412 00:14:37,929 --> 00:14:38,669 so you, 413 00:14:39,245 --> 00:14:41,804 is that more intentional, like, you coordinate with 414 00:14:41,804 --> 00:14:43,725 the stake leaders about what's going on and 415 00:14:43,725 --> 00:14:44,845 what you can do, or do you just 416 00:14:44,845 --> 00:14:46,684 naturally think, you know, they have trek coming 417 00:14:46,684 --> 00:14:48,524 up. Let's get them in that gear so 418 00:14:48,524 --> 00:14:50,524 that they're more and more excited. Yeah. I 419 00:14:50,524 --> 00:14:52,524 think it's more like that. We just kinda 420 00:14:52,524 --> 00:14:54,269 do it like, I'm alright. This is coming 421 00:14:54,269 --> 00:14:56,029 up. I'm always, like, looking. Alright. Are there 422 00:14:56,029 --> 00:14:57,870 stick activities? Is there, like, what what are 423 00:14:57,870 --> 00:14:59,649 we doing as a work? Easter, 424 00:15:00,110 --> 00:15:01,629 the church did a big push. And I'm 425 00:15:01,629 --> 00:15:03,470 always looking like a church news. Like, what's 426 00:15:03,470 --> 00:15:04,910 coming up? And, like, what are what are 427 00:15:04,910 --> 00:15:08,095 some youth things going on? And get them 428 00:15:08,095 --> 00:15:10,095 excited and prepared and see here. So I'm 429 00:15:10,095 --> 00:15:10,835 like, okay, 430 00:15:11,295 --> 00:15:13,055 Easter's coming up, how do we prepare for 431 00:15:13,055 --> 00:15:14,115 that? And I, 432 00:15:15,055 --> 00:15:16,894 my dad was a mission president when I 433 00:15:16,894 --> 00:15:18,415 was 16, so I did my high school 434 00:15:18,415 --> 00:15:20,490 in a different country. Oh, wow. So we 435 00:15:20,490 --> 00:15:22,250 did a lot of their Easter. I bring 436 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:24,889 in their Easter traditions. I certify mission in 437 00:15:24,889 --> 00:15:27,389 Moscow, Russia. I take in their Easter traditions 438 00:15:27,529 --> 00:15:28,029 and 439 00:15:28,649 --> 00:15:30,970 it's re it's really fun. So we make 440 00:15:30,970 --> 00:15:33,210 everything kind of I like making things a 441 00:15:33,210 --> 00:15:34,430 big deal. So 442 00:15:34,884 --> 00:15:37,204 we really, like, one day we do, like, 443 00:15:37,204 --> 00:15:39,365 before Ash Wednesday, you know, we lit everything 444 00:15:39,365 --> 00:15:41,044 leading up. We're very close to New Orleans, 445 00:15:41,044 --> 00:15:42,485 so it's like, let's talk, you know, let's 446 00:15:42,485 --> 00:15:43,144 talk about 447 00:15:43,605 --> 00:15:44,904 Mardi Gras and 448 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:47,444 carnival and things like that. Just like how 449 00:15:47,444 --> 00:15:49,350 did we get to here and how does 450 00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:50,730 that look like for Easter? 451 00:15:51,429 --> 00:15:53,129 So those kinds of things. Yeah. 452 00:15:53,669 --> 00:15:54,950 So I kinda have an off the wall 453 00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:56,470 question. Maybe a left turn here, and we'll 454 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:58,470 come back. But I'm just thinking, like, I 455 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:58,970 love 456 00:15:59,509 --> 00:16:02,629 I love your talents, your energy, your perspective. 457 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:04,649 And this is I mean, you are the 458 00:16:05,725 --> 00:16:07,024 the epitome of why 459 00:16:07,564 --> 00:16:09,404 I want it you know, why Leading Saints 460 00:16:09,404 --> 00:16:11,664 exist to share these experiences and things. 461 00:16:13,245 --> 00:16:14,924 What advice would you have for the person 462 00:16:14,924 --> 00:16:17,404 who replaces you? Right? Because you're such a 463 00:16:17,404 --> 00:16:19,485 dynamic personality. You have so many good ideas, 464 00:16:19,485 --> 00:16:21,299 and so sort of like, I don't know 465 00:16:21,299 --> 00:16:23,059 how to be like Allison. Right? And, obviously, 466 00:16:23,059 --> 00:16:25,940 everybody should be everybody should be themselves. Right? 467 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:28,419 But I'm just thinking themselves. Yes. That that 468 00:16:28,419 --> 00:16:30,899 person listening to this thinking, oh, like, I 469 00:16:30,899 --> 00:16:32,019 don't know if I could do all that. 470 00:16:32,019 --> 00:16:34,259 It sounds exhausting. Right? Like, doesn't what what 471 00:16:34,259 --> 00:16:35,115 comes to mind? 472 00:16:36,075 --> 00:16:36,894 Oh, man. 473 00:16:37,434 --> 00:16:38,334 I would say 474 00:16:38,794 --> 00:16:39,294 because 475 00:16:39,995 --> 00:16:42,075 we have this like, there's a Facebook I 476 00:16:42,075 --> 00:16:44,554 think there's a Facebook group for everything, and 477 00:16:44,554 --> 00:16:46,955 there's many for seminary. And so I've I'm 478 00:16:46,955 --> 00:16:48,394 on a couple of them and, like, reading 479 00:16:48,394 --> 00:16:50,519 them, and and I love getting other people's 480 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:52,120 perspectives, but I feel like when you read 481 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,800 them, you're like, oh, I that's not my 482 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,720 personality, or that is my personality, or maybe 483 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,160 I could change it. And I feel like 484 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,180 that for the next person that comes in, 485 00:17:01,574 --> 00:17:03,274 think about your perspective 486 00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:05,734 of the gospel. How did you what is 487 00:17:05,734 --> 00:17:06,714 your conversion? 488 00:17:07,335 --> 00:17:08,775 And what are you bringing in? And what 489 00:17:08,775 --> 00:17:11,095 are your experiences? I feel like everybody has 490 00:17:11,095 --> 00:17:13,994 a very unique perspective, a very unique life. 491 00:17:14,450 --> 00:17:16,710 Bring those things in and make it about 492 00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:18,789 you sharing it with them. 493 00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:19,910 Yeah. 494 00:17:20,289 --> 00:17:21,890 Yeah. That's that's really good. And and I'm 495 00:17:21,890 --> 00:17:22,869 just thinking, you know, 496 00:17:23,809 --> 00:17:25,650 there's so many researchers out there, like, sort 497 00:17:25,650 --> 00:17:27,269 of jump in and feel 498 00:17:27,795 --> 00:17:29,154 what are you drawn to is what I'm 499 00:17:29,154 --> 00:17:30,755 hearing you say. Like, what what do you 500 00:17:30,755 --> 00:17:32,434 what do you pull towards and lean into 501 00:17:32,434 --> 00:17:34,215 that and say, how can I make this 502 00:17:34,275 --> 00:17:36,115 a little bit more of a dynamic experience 503 00:17:36,115 --> 00:17:37,475 that's going to engage with the youth in 504 00:17:37,475 --> 00:17:39,315 a different way? And but I'm gonna do 505 00:17:39,315 --> 00:17:40,515 it in your you know, you just do 506 00:17:40,515 --> 00:17:42,115 it in your own way. Right? Not trying 507 00:17:42,115 --> 00:17:44,169 to do exactly what that other leader did 508 00:17:44,169 --> 00:17:47,049 because they had success. Right? Right. And because 509 00:17:47,049 --> 00:17:50,169 everybody brings so many different things and so 510 00:17:50,169 --> 00:17:52,409 many different perspectives. And I feel like my 511 00:17:52,409 --> 00:17:54,809 own conversion, my own, you know, is being 512 00:17:54,809 --> 00:17:56,029 a missionary or 513 00:17:56,975 --> 00:17:59,215 being a mom, being whatever. Like, I bring 514 00:17:59,215 --> 00:17:59,795 a different 515 00:18:00,095 --> 00:18:03,134 a different a different perspective. So, yeah, that 516 00:18:03,134 --> 00:18:03,634 personal 517 00:18:04,095 --> 00:18:05,634 perspective is so important. 518 00:18:06,174 --> 00:18:09,535 Cool. Anything else about making gospel connections that 519 00:18:09,535 --> 00:18:11,369 we need to mention before we move on? 520 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:13,549 I think helping the youth 521 00:18:14,009 --> 00:18:16,750 see how the gospel fits into their everyday 522 00:18:17,210 --> 00:18:19,230 life. I mean, president Nelson 523 00:18:19,609 --> 00:18:22,089 emphasizes so much that daily repentance and was 524 00:18:22,089 --> 00:18:24,829 like, why why does he do that? 525 00:18:25,444 --> 00:18:28,005 And he set aside those doctrinal mastery, and 526 00:18:28,005 --> 00:18:28,744 it's just 527 00:18:29,285 --> 00:18:31,285 so many blocks of scripture that they read 528 00:18:31,285 --> 00:18:34,005 now. It's not 7575% 529 00:18:34,005 --> 00:18:35,224 of the whole book. 530 00:18:36,244 --> 00:18:38,244 It's just these few scriptures now. And I'm 531 00:18:38,244 --> 00:18:38,744 like, 532 00:18:39,125 --> 00:18:40,664 why did he pick these 533 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:44,259 specifically for you right now? And so making 534 00:18:44,259 --> 00:18:45,480 those gospel connections 535 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:48,500 for them to see, where does the gospel 536 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,500 fit in every day? How can I feel 537 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:51,079 the spirit 538 00:18:51,619 --> 00:18:54,179 even at the hardest time or even during 539 00:18:54,179 --> 00:18:56,384 football practice or even during a math test? 540 00:18:56,545 --> 00:18:58,704 How can I do that? So that's that's 541 00:18:58,704 --> 00:18:59,605 what I really 542 00:19:00,704 --> 00:19:03,025 hope to help them understand and help them 543 00:19:03,025 --> 00:19:05,924 see. Yeah. And do any of their responses 544 00:19:05,984 --> 00:19:07,924 come to mind or examples of, like, how 545 00:19:07,984 --> 00:19:09,759 how do you see these sort of having 546 00:19:09,759 --> 00:19:11,839 those epiphanies of like, oh, you know, this 547 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,059 is something I could do. 548 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,640 I love what we do. This past year, 549 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,519 we took each scripture or block of scriptures 550 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:21,440 from doctoral mastery, and we've set them on 551 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,880 one piece of paper. I printed them up 552 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,319 on one piece of paper, and then it 553 00:19:24,319 --> 00:19:26,595 had lines to the side, and we just 554 00:19:26,815 --> 00:19:27,875 tore them apart. 555 00:19:28,335 --> 00:19:30,515 And just seeing, like, it's line by line. 556 00:19:30,734 --> 00:19:33,694 What is Jesus trying to tell us? What 557 00:19:33,694 --> 00:19:35,315 is Jesus trying to tell you? 558 00:19:35,615 --> 00:19:37,535 And what was you telling Joseph Smith or 559 00:19:37,535 --> 00:19:40,490 Martin Harris or whoever's in here, Edward Parkridge, 560 00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:42,150 but what is he trying to tell you 561 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:43,990 now in your life? And so I had 562 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:46,170 an itch go through, like, their own life, 563 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:47,990 and then what would that look like for 564 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:50,230 them? And a lot of them had just 565 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:52,250 had such great comments 566 00:19:54,134 --> 00:19:57,174 that I think really helped them see, okay, 567 00:19:57,174 --> 00:19:59,174 when things are really tough, you know, Martin 568 00:19:59,174 --> 00:20:00,775 Harris said, Harris had to give up his 569 00:20:00,775 --> 00:20:02,875 farm. What am I asked to give up? 570 00:20:03,894 --> 00:20:05,815 How can I show the spirit? Or or 571 00:20:05,815 --> 00:20:07,414 not even give up, but what am I 572 00:20:07,414 --> 00:20:09,090 asked to do that might 573 00:20:09,630 --> 00:20:11,650 be hard? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. 574 00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:15,070 The next principle is mix up learning, and 575 00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:16,350 we've sort of touched on this a little 576 00:20:16,350 --> 00:20:18,450 bit with your games focus. Anything else about, 577 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:20,444 you know, keeping the learning fresh? 578 00:20:21,884 --> 00:20:24,125 I love just looking through the calendar and 579 00:20:24,125 --> 00:20:26,924 seeing what's coming next. And old testament might 580 00:20:26,924 --> 00:20:28,524 be some of my favorite things to teach 581 00:20:28,524 --> 00:20:31,404 just because it's very unusual and really exciting, 582 00:20:31,404 --> 00:20:33,105 but it also has so many 583 00:20:33,630 --> 00:20:36,190 awesome holidays. And so we celebrate a few 584 00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:37,789 of those holiday. We'll bring things in for 585 00:20:37,789 --> 00:20:39,650 if it's Yom Kippur and, 586 00:20:40,509 --> 00:20:42,210 the different holidays for the atonement. 587 00:20:42,589 --> 00:20:44,029 I had them all. I had a big 588 00:20:44,029 --> 00:20:46,109 jar, and it had, I printed out the 589 00:20:46,109 --> 00:20:47,710 picture of the goat, and we put it 590 00:20:47,710 --> 00:20:49,625 on. And everybody wrote down 591 00:20:50,244 --> 00:20:52,164 a sin or something that was really hard 592 00:20:52,164 --> 00:20:54,244 for them to that we could give this 593 00:20:54,244 --> 00:20:54,744 scapegoat 594 00:20:55,285 --> 00:20:57,605 to get rid of. And it just trained 595 00:20:57,605 --> 00:21:00,005 at me. You know, here are these holidays, 596 00:21:00,005 --> 00:21:01,144 these old, ancient, 597 00:21:01,605 --> 00:21:02,664 amazing holidays. 598 00:21:03,109 --> 00:21:05,430 How do they translate to us now? How 599 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:08,070 do they help us? You know? Why are 600 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:10,950 we still focusing on these things? Sharing these 601 00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:13,190 things. And Yeah. Really helping them see a 602 00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:15,430 different perspective of the gospel and a different 603 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:15,930 thing. 604 00:21:16,934 --> 00:21:18,855 Getting them excited about that. Holidays are a 605 00:21:18,855 --> 00:21:19,654 big one. 606 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:21,274 I love making invitations. 607 00:21:21,575 --> 00:21:25,434 I'm a very amateur little graphic designer, but 608 00:21:25,494 --> 00:21:27,815 I make invitations for everything. Like, anything that's 609 00:21:27,815 --> 00:21:29,274 coming up. So, like, the birthday, 610 00:21:30,179 --> 00:21:32,019 of the church. I'm like, oh, the church's 611 00:21:32,019 --> 00:21:34,740 birthday. It was, like, April 6. And did 612 00:21:34,740 --> 00:21:36,980 a bigger turning a 195, you know, made 613 00:21:36,980 --> 00:21:38,339 a cake and had them come in, and 614 00:21:38,339 --> 00:21:39,619 we did a birthday party, you know, like 615 00:21:39,619 --> 00:21:41,779 a pool party, and it was really fun. 616 00:21:41,779 --> 00:21:43,240 I just try to get them 617 00:21:44,865 --> 00:21:45,765 thinking more 618 00:21:46,144 --> 00:21:47,445 beyond, you know, 619 00:21:47,984 --> 00:21:50,224 this is his subscriptions. We're gonna read them. 620 00:21:50,224 --> 00:21:51,505 You know? How do we make them come 621 00:21:51,505 --> 00:21:53,984 alive, like, a little bit more? Yeah. So 622 00:21:53,984 --> 00:21:55,984 holidays are a big one. Holidays are an 623 00:21:55,984 --> 00:21:56,805 easy one. 624 00:21:58,509 --> 00:22:00,750 Yeah. That's cool. So I'm just curious just 625 00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:02,589 to rattle off some of these resources because 626 00:22:02,589 --> 00:22:04,670 when you when you say you, like, make 627 00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:06,750 invitations, I'm thinking, well, how does she do 628 00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:07,869 that? Does she have that with some of 629 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:10,509 those, like, pattern scissors that she's doing and 630 00:22:10,509 --> 00:22:12,589 she's looking in her kitchen, or is she 631 00:22:12,589 --> 00:22:13,730 online on Canva? 632 00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:16,234 And how do you what resources do you 633 00:22:16,234 --> 00:22:18,394 use to to create what all these things 634 00:22:18,394 --> 00:22:20,494 that you create? I love Photoshop. 635 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:23,115 And so I do everything in Photoshop. So 636 00:22:23,115 --> 00:22:25,194 I did little tiny cards for them, the 637 00:22:25,194 --> 00:22:27,434 little things. I did a whole lesson. It 638 00:22:27,434 --> 00:22:29,940 was on preparing for permission. Like, how do 639 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:31,940 you prefer permission? And so and it's one 640 00:22:31,940 --> 00:22:33,640 of the new life lessons for somebody. 641 00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:34,839 And I 642 00:22:35,460 --> 00:22:37,140 found this clip. I was looking for the 643 00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:37,640 clip 644 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:40,420 of Indiana Jones when he was gonna cross, 645 00:22:40,420 --> 00:22:41,700 and he had to take that leap of 646 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,220 faith. Oh, yeah. The whole thing is about 647 00:22:43,220 --> 00:22:44,484 a leap of faith. I'm like, it is 648 00:22:44,484 --> 00:22:45,684 a leap of faith. It's just like a 649 00:22:45,684 --> 00:22:46,424 dream of sharing. 650 00:22:46,964 --> 00:22:48,644 So I was trying to find that clip, 651 00:22:48,644 --> 00:22:50,085 and next to it, I found the one 652 00:22:50,085 --> 00:22:52,565 from Into the Spider Verse, and it was 653 00:22:53,204 --> 00:22:54,585 I love that movie. 654 00:22:54,964 --> 00:22:56,880 Yeah. That's awesome. Whoever has a scene, it's 655 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,153 it's a good site. It's beautiful too. The 656 00:22:59,153 --> 00:23:01,710 the art is amazing. Yeah. I, I love 657 00:23:01,710 --> 00:23:03,984 it. So I watched that clip first. I 658 00:23:03,984 --> 00:23:06,257 love Indiana Jones. I'm like, I'm scared. But 659 00:23:06,257 --> 00:23:08,530 that I thought that I felt strongly to 660 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:10,804 go to that one. So I went to 661 00:23:10,804 --> 00:23:13,684 that one, and it was Miles asking, 662 00:23:13,984 --> 00:23:15,044 how do I know 663 00:23:15,424 --> 00:23:17,444 I'm Spider Man? And he's asking 664 00:23:18,304 --> 00:23:21,505 the old overweight Spider Man that's, you know, 665 00:23:21,505 --> 00:23:23,345 out of shape. And finally, he says, you 666 00:23:23,345 --> 00:23:25,025 know, that goes through this whole montage of, 667 00:23:25,025 --> 00:23:26,704 how do I know I'm Spider Man? And 668 00:23:26,704 --> 00:23:27,359 he says, 669 00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:30,019 it's the leap of faith. And I'm like, 670 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:32,240 there's my clip. There's my thing. That's my 671 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,559 whole thing. So when the so as I'm 672 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:36,579 studying the planning and everything, that 673 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,519 so I have led many times is it 674 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,299 the spirit? Yes. I think so. 675 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:43,615 To movie clips and things that are just 676 00:23:43,615 --> 00:23:45,535 gonna grab them. And so I made my 677 00:23:45,535 --> 00:23:48,335 whole thing about Miles getting ready to Spider 678 00:23:48,335 --> 00:23:50,015 Man, and that was our lesson. And at 679 00:23:50,015 --> 00:23:52,095 the end, I made little cards for them, 680 00:23:52,095 --> 00:23:53,154 and it was him, 681 00:23:53,535 --> 00:23:56,160 Miles in a suit with a missionary pack. 682 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,220 Bit. And it was That's cool. 683 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Opening your portal is a little bit. Filling 684 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,920 out that paperwork is a little bit. All 685 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,160 of it's a little bit. Yeah. I love 686 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,134 that. First of all, this is a a 687 00:24:10,134 --> 00:24:11,575 tactic I use a lot, not just with 688 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:13,335 youth, but anytime I'm teaching, whether it's a 689 00:24:13,335 --> 00:24:14,474 fireside or, 690 00:24:15,255 --> 00:24:15,994 in various 691 00:24:16,295 --> 00:24:19,815 contexts. But using movie clips, like, especially some 692 00:24:19,815 --> 00:24:21,654 of the classics like Indiana Jones or, you 693 00:24:21,654 --> 00:24:23,174 know, like you said, you you found some 694 00:24:23,174 --> 00:24:23,674 that 695 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:26,000 because naturally, I think, especially in seminary, we 696 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,359 go to a place of, like, okay. Is 697 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,259 there a seminary video out there? Right? Now 698 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,259 I have to be very delicate because 699 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,880 if if a Seminary Institute is listening right 700 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,859 now, you know, CMBS, 701 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,095 they're like, you know, they're like, don't show 702 00:24:38,095 --> 00:24:40,015 clips from The Chosen, you know, let alone 703 00:24:40,095 --> 00:24:42,095 Yeah. But okay. Just we're gonna rebel a 704 00:24:42,095 --> 00:24:44,414 little bit here. But, really, there's something about, 705 00:24:44,414 --> 00:24:45,855 like, okay. Now I'm gonna show you a 706 00:24:45,855 --> 00:24:47,775 clip from Spider Man. Suddenly, the youth are 707 00:24:47,775 --> 00:24:49,535 like, oh, wait a minute. Here we go. 708 00:24:49,535 --> 00:24:51,294 You know? Like, what's this gonna be about? 709 00:24:51,294 --> 00:24:54,069 It engages the mind on a really unique 710 00:24:54,069 --> 00:24:55,909 way, and then you bring them back into 711 00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:57,829 the context of the principle or the lesson 712 00:24:57,829 --> 00:24:58,569 or the scripture. 713 00:24:59,029 --> 00:25:00,710 And it really is this, you know, you 714 00:25:00,710 --> 00:25:01,769 mix up with media. 715 00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:04,069 It engages their mind in a way that 716 00:25:04,069 --> 00:25:05,990 will, help them learn. So I love that 717 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:07,544 you mentioned that. That. So it's a powerful 718 00:25:07,544 --> 00:25:09,384 tool. I agree. When we were talking about 719 00:25:09,384 --> 00:25:11,464 the Sea Of Galilee, I have a boy 720 00:25:11,464 --> 00:25:13,144 in my class. His name is Liam. Oh 721 00:25:13,144 --> 00:25:14,505 my gosh. It's the truest thing in the 722 00:25:14,505 --> 00:25:17,005 whole world. And I showed a clip from 723 00:25:17,464 --> 00:25:19,464 the perfect storm. So I showed this clip. 724 00:25:19,464 --> 00:25:20,984 I'm like, I just wanna show you the 725 00:25:20,984 --> 00:25:22,799 Sea Of Galilee. This is what they're talking 726 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:24,799 about. It's like you're you know, don't criticize 727 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:26,880 Peter. Don't you know, just think about the 728 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,380 waves. 729 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,720 This is they're fishermen, and they're terrified. So 730 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,640 I showed this clip, and it's when their 731 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,880 boat is climbing and climbing, and they're fighting 732 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,940 this wave. Yeah. 733 00:25:36,325 --> 00:25:37,845 And in the end, they all die. I 734 00:25:37,845 --> 00:25:40,025 mean, it's the perfect storm. But, 735 00:25:40,484 --> 00:25:42,805 Leah is he's holding he's holding on. He's 736 00:25:42,805 --> 00:25:45,365 like, what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? And 737 00:25:45,365 --> 00:25:47,684 everyone's and he no one had really seen 738 00:25:47,684 --> 00:25:49,650 the movie, and he was so worried. And 739 00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:51,750 I turned it off before, you know, anything 740 00:25:52,769 --> 00:25:55,570 happened. But, at the end, someone turned and 741 00:25:55,570 --> 00:25:56,869 was like, oh, they all died. 742 00:25:57,170 --> 00:25:57,670 What? 743 00:25:58,210 --> 00:26:00,529 Like so now everyone's like, really into this 744 00:26:00,529 --> 00:26:02,049 movie. I'm like, no. We need to get 745 00:26:02,049 --> 00:26:04,005 him back to the Sea Of Galilee. But, 746 00:26:04,164 --> 00:26:06,244 yeah, so sometimes it goes a little bit 747 00:26:06,244 --> 00:26:07,785 too far. It's Nice. 748 00:26:08,244 --> 00:26:10,244 Well, I feel the same way. Those movie 749 00:26:10,244 --> 00:26:10,724 clips, 750 00:26:11,045 --> 00:26:13,845 something that is, like, contemporary to them. I 751 00:26:13,845 --> 00:26:16,265 mean, then they're like, this is really relatable. 752 00:26:16,325 --> 00:26:18,779 Like, other bednar shared are real, and it 753 00:26:18,779 --> 00:26:20,619 fits so perfect with my last it was 754 00:26:20,619 --> 00:26:23,180 like, here's me as an apostle today. And 755 00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:24,860 he just took video of him walking around. 756 00:26:24,860 --> 00:26:26,140 You know, this is what I do all 757 00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:27,360 day. And I'm like, 758 00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:29,820 this is so great. I'm like, this is 759 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:31,420 we're gonna watch this reel and go to 760 00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:33,100 Bednar, tell him what he does all day, 761 00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:34,755 and I just I just 762 00:26:35,294 --> 00:26:36,835 love love when you find someone. 763 00:26:37,294 --> 00:26:40,095 Really good. Anything else about mix mixing up 764 00:26:40,095 --> 00:26:42,015 the learning and engaging on that in in 765 00:26:42,015 --> 00:26:44,494 a unique way? I feel like don't be 766 00:26:44,494 --> 00:26:45,954 scared. If you get 767 00:26:46,414 --> 00:26:48,034 an inspiration about it, 768 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:49,660 really think it through 769 00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:50,519 and, 770 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,039 don't be afraid to try it. Don't be 771 00:26:54,039 --> 00:26:55,640 afraid. And, like, I read it through my 772 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,640 poor family. They could hear my lessons. Like, 773 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,480 I'm alright. Come follow me tonight to me. 774 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,079 Go through my lesson to make sure that 775 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:02,279 all my clips work and, 776 00:27:03,184 --> 00:27:05,105 and this this handout makes it look does 777 00:27:05,105 --> 00:27:06,384 all this make sense? And they all sit 778 00:27:06,384 --> 00:27:08,304 there and they're gonna listen to it. But 779 00:27:08,304 --> 00:27:10,625 try it out. Like, try whatever comes in 780 00:27:10,625 --> 00:27:12,085 your mind, try it out 781 00:27:12,384 --> 00:27:12,884 because 782 00:27:13,664 --> 00:27:15,984 you never know what's gonna hit someone just 783 00:27:15,984 --> 00:27:16,804 the right way. 784 00:27:17,309 --> 00:27:19,630 Love it. Alright. The last principle is set 785 00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:21,710 youth up for success. Where do you wanna 786 00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:22,450 start there? 787 00:27:22,829 --> 00:27:23,809 Oh, I 788 00:27:24,589 --> 00:27:26,750 have worked with many people who 789 00:27:27,869 --> 00:27:29,470 and this is one of my biggest pet 790 00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:31,904 peeves is, oh, just let them let them 791 00:27:31,904 --> 00:27:33,605 do it, and if they fail, 792 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:35,845 so what? They'll never forget again. 793 00:27:36,625 --> 00:27:37,445 Like, planning 794 00:27:37,825 --> 00:27:38,184 Yeah. 795 00:27:38,785 --> 00:27:41,025 Planning a camp out, and all the boys 796 00:27:41,025 --> 00:27:43,184 forgot water. And then all the dads are 797 00:27:43,184 --> 00:27:44,945 like, oh, they that's okay. They'll never forget 798 00:27:44,945 --> 00:27:47,039 water again. I'm like, well, how about let's 799 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:48,720 don't let them not forget in the first 800 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,940 place and then 801 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,179 plan better? You know? But 802 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,140 that's 803 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,679 whatever. So I take that experience and I 804 00:27:57,679 --> 00:27:59,119 put it into Saint Mary where I'm like, 805 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,515 I wanna set these kids up to just 806 00:28:01,515 --> 00:28:02,615 learn it. Great. 807 00:28:03,475 --> 00:28:05,715 And leadership is one of that. Leadership is 808 00:28:05,715 --> 00:28:06,835 a is a big thing to me. I 809 00:28:06,835 --> 00:28:07,575 feel like 810 00:28:08,275 --> 00:28:09,634 they need to learn how to lead. It's 811 00:28:09,634 --> 00:28:11,795 gonna be happening sooner than they realize anything. 812 00:28:11,795 --> 00:28:13,154 And, like, most of you could go off 813 00:28:13,154 --> 00:28:15,299 to college right now. When you're done, 814 00:28:16,259 --> 00:28:17,320 be a real site president. You 815 00:28:17,860 --> 00:28:19,460 could be you could go on a mission 816 00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:21,059 to be in the bishop you could be 817 00:28:21,059 --> 00:28:22,920 in the branch presidency. I mean, 818 00:28:23,299 --> 00:28:25,460 where I served, many were in the branch 819 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:27,480 presidency. So it's like you 820 00:28:27,974 --> 00:28:29,894 need to learn these skills and learn how 821 00:28:29,894 --> 00:28:31,835 to lead at such an early age, 822 00:28:32,214 --> 00:28:33,355 and it's so important. 823 00:28:34,055 --> 00:28:35,815 So I try, you know, with my little 824 00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:36,315 presidency 825 00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:38,535 getting them, and I rotate it every month. 826 00:28:38,535 --> 00:28:40,855 I make sure everybody gets a turn. And 827 00:28:40,855 --> 00:28:43,029 they you know, Everyone needs to leave this 828 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:44,549 this meeting, and I have a little thing 829 00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:46,150 for them to leave. They know exactly what 830 00:28:46,150 --> 00:28:47,670 to do. I need it done. This is 831 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:50,150 exactly what you're going to do. I love 832 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:51,210 the edge method. 833 00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:55,910 The explain, demonstrate, guide, and then we have, 834 00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:57,535 and I love I love it. And I 835 00:28:57,535 --> 00:28:59,214 live by that. Where I'm like, I'm gonna 836 00:28:59,214 --> 00:29:01,134 show you exactly what to do. I'm gonna 837 00:29:01,134 --> 00:29:03,134 stand up, show you how I got your 838 00:29:03,134 --> 00:29:05,134 power bill here, then I'm gonna let you 839 00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:07,134 do it. I'm gonna demonstrate, then I'm gonna 840 00:29:07,134 --> 00:29:08,894 guide you through it. So by the end 841 00:29:08,894 --> 00:29:11,559 of the year, everybody knows how to I 842 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:12,920 need you to send their class, which is 843 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,460 not a big deal. But 844 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,160 it gives them that chance to stand up 845 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,140 in front of everybody 846 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,660 and welcome them and get them excited and 847 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,700 ask somebody to pray, ask somebody to share 848 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,059 their devotional. 849 00:29:26,625 --> 00:29:28,724 I feel like that is so powerful. 850 00:29:29,345 --> 00:29:31,345 And so I try to try to really 851 00:29:31,345 --> 00:29:33,345 focus on that. I like to show them 852 00:29:33,345 --> 00:29:35,105 how to do it. I do a big 853 00:29:35,105 --> 00:29:36,404 thing at the end of, 854 00:29:37,265 --> 00:29:39,105 spring semester, I guess, I wanna call it 855 00:29:39,105 --> 00:29:41,759 that, where I do a bottle ward council. 856 00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:42,960 And 857 00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:45,100 we take all of the doctoral mastery data 858 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:46,619 nerds and have a whole bunch of, like, 859 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,779 the little case studies or the little, things 860 00:29:48,779 --> 00:29:50,940 that go with it. And I print off 861 00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:53,660 from the handbook everybody's position from the whole 862 00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:54,480 ward council. 863 00:29:55,154 --> 00:29:57,795 And we handed out, everybody learns their role 864 00:29:57,795 --> 00:29:58,855 and their responsibility. 865 00:29:59,555 --> 00:30:01,154 And then I read it like model United 866 00:30:01,154 --> 00:30:03,095 Nations, which is one of my favorite things. 867 00:30:03,315 --> 00:30:05,315 So I sit and I have a timer, 868 00:30:05,315 --> 00:30:08,035 and I'm like, okay. Crisis alert. War crisis 869 00:30:08,035 --> 00:30:08,535 alert. 870 00:30:09,309 --> 00:30:11,390 Here's the crisis. And I'll read it, and 871 00:30:11,390 --> 00:30:13,250 I'm like, bishop, what do we do? 872 00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:16,029 Let's read it. And I'm like, he's like, 873 00:30:16,029 --> 00:30:17,630 oh, you know? And and always in the 874 00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:20,289 beginning, they're literally they're like, I don't know. 875 00:30:20,349 --> 00:30:21,710 I don't know what to do. I'm like, 876 00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:23,630 you are the bishop, and everyone's looking to 877 00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:24,884 you. What should we do? 878 00:30:25,765 --> 00:30:27,684 And then if it's about, like, a youth 879 00:30:27,684 --> 00:30:29,445 in it, I'm like, who would you involve 880 00:30:29,445 --> 00:30:30,964 that would be helpful? I said, you're the 881 00:30:30,964 --> 00:30:32,265 president of Yurana Cristo. 882 00:30:32,964 --> 00:30:34,484 Who else could be helpful? He's like, oh, 883 00:30:34,484 --> 00:30:36,565 Yuma Yuma was president. Alright. Yuma Yuma Yuma. 884 00:30:36,565 --> 00:30:37,765 What would you do? You know? So getting 885 00:30:37,765 --> 00:30:38,664 them to think, 886 00:30:39,609 --> 00:30:41,369 this is our light. This is your light. 887 00:30:41,369 --> 00:30:42,589 Now once you graduate, 888 00:30:43,609 --> 00:30:46,029 this is your next your next day. Preparing 889 00:30:46,089 --> 00:30:48,190 them for the next day. I'm like, missions. 890 00:30:48,809 --> 00:30:50,490 Being in a ward council, I mean, that's 891 00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:52,109 gonna happen sooner than later. 892 00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:53,765 So we do a lot, and I'm like, 893 00:30:53,765 --> 00:30:55,684 if you're in state, use council. If you're 894 00:30:55,684 --> 00:30:58,644 in ward, use council or whatever. I don't 895 00:30:58,644 --> 00:30:59,924 know what it's called, but you know what 896 00:30:59,924 --> 00:31:01,924 I mean. Yeah. I'm getting that prepared for 897 00:31:01,924 --> 00:31:04,164 those kinds of things. So I love doing 898 00:31:04,164 --> 00:31:05,065 that. Modeling 899 00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:07,549 ward council is one of my one of 900 00:31:07,549 --> 00:31:09,630 my biggest. I love that. I love crisis 901 00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:11,490 alert. There we go. And then everybody 902 00:31:11,869 --> 00:31:13,630 I loved one time we did when it 903 00:31:13,630 --> 00:31:14,849 was a crisis alert, 904 00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:16,450 and 905 00:31:17,230 --> 00:31:18,609 all of them were so 906 00:31:18,924 --> 00:31:20,765 thoughtful and useful in going through. They're like, 907 00:31:20,765 --> 00:31:22,684 oh, how would we get the primary involved? 908 00:31:22,684 --> 00:31:23,205 How do we get the primary involved? How 909 00:31:23,205 --> 00:31:23,724 do we get the primary involved in an 910 00:31:23,724 --> 00:31:25,724 activity? How do we get that now? It 911 00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:27,964 was really it's really fun to see them 912 00:31:27,964 --> 00:31:30,144 start to put things together. 913 00:31:30,765 --> 00:31:32,684 Yeah. I bet. So That's really cool. I 914 00:31:32,684 --> 00:31:35,839 love it. That's really cool. Anything else about, 915 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,160 setting you up for success you wanna mention 916 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400 before we wrap up? Well, I just I 917 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,539 love getting them 918 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:45,440 to to just take charge, take charge of 919 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,954 their own personal 920 00:31:47,575 --> 00:31:50,054 spiritual journey, but then also taking charge of 921 00:31:50,054 --> 00:31:51,434 being a good friend, 922 00:31:51,974 --> 00:31:54,454 being a good leader in their own ward, 923 00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:56,075 and then in a similar class. 924 00:31:56,775 --> 00:31:58,694 And I was telling them, like, look around 925 00:31:58,694 --> 00:32:00,509 the room. These are the people who should 926 00:32:00,509 --> 00:32:02,830 demonstrate the people. They may outrun the same 927 00:32:02,830 --> 00:32:05,570 circles as you, but these are the people. 928 00:32:06,029 --> 00:32:08,769 Love it. Any other point, principle, concept, 929 00:32:09,070 --> 00:32:09,570 story? 930 00:32:09,870 --> 00:32:12,350 It's it's just so fun. It is such 931 00:32:12,350 --> 00:32:13,309 a joy to just 932 00:32:15,664 --> 00:32:17,345 morning person. I am a night owl. I 933 00:32:17,345 --> 00:32:18,865 will stay up all night to watch a 934 00:32:18,865 --> 00:32:21,684 movie or TV or play a game, and 935 00:32:21,984 --> 00:32:24,005 this is my whole life. 936 00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:26,244 I got a minute now. Yeah. 937 00:32:26,705 --> 00:32:28,565 I bet. That's cool. Well, 938 00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:31,089 if there was one more thing, like, if 939 00:32:31,089 --> 00:32:32,369 you were in front of a room full 940 00:32:32,369 --> 00:32:34,390 of youth leaders or seminary teachers, 941 00:32:35,009 --> 00:32:36,869 what final advice would you give them? 942 00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:39,430 I would definitely say 943 00:32:39,809 --> 00:32:42,390 you need to love these youth like Jesus 944 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:43,190 would love. 945 00:32:45,444 --> 00:32:45,944 Definitely. 946 00:32:48,164 --> 00:32:49,384 Even if they don't 947 00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:52,664 participate or they don't seem like they're participating, 948 00:32:53,365 --> 00:32:55,365 love them the way Jesus would. He would 949 00:32:55,365 --> 00:32:56,984 not give up on them. 950 00:32:58,130 --> 00:33:00,210 He wouldn't want them there. And I tell 951 00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:01,890 those I tell those Jews. We had one 952 00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:04,769 girl who went out and she drove her 953 00:33:04,769 --> 00:33:06,149 siblings to seminary 954 00:33:06,609 --> 00:33:08,450 and then slept in her car. And we've 955 00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:10,375 had this happen a number of times. And 956 00:33:10,375 --> 00:33:12,775 I'm like, sleep I'd rather you were sleeping 957 00:33:12,775 --> 00:33:15,255 in my class. I'd rather that that you 958 00:33:15,255 --> 00:33:16,714 were here. And 959 00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:20,315 so anything to get them to be there. 960 00:33:21,015 --> 00:33:22,075 Do what you can. 961 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,599 Love them the way that Jesus will bless 962 00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:26,920 you. 963 00:33:36,365 --> 00:33:39,184 And that concludes this How I Lead interview. 964 00:33:39,404 --> 00:33:41,325 I hope you enjoyed it. And, I would 965 00:33:41,325 --> 00:33:43,085 ask you, could you take a minute and 966 00:33:43,085 --> 00:33:45,005 drop this link in an email, on social 967 00:33:45,005 --> 00:33:47,085 media, in a text, wherever it makes the 968 00:33:47,085 --> 00:33:48,845 most sense, and share it with somebody who 969 00:33:48,845 --> 00:33:51,769 could relate to this experience. And this is 970 00:33:51,769 --> 00:33:54,009 how we develop as leaders, just hearing what 971 00:33:54,009 --> 00:33:55,690 the other guy is doing, trying some things 972 00:33:55,690 --> 00:33:56,910 out, testing, adjusting 973 00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:58,490 for your area, and, 974 00:33:59,049 --> 00:34:01,369 that's where great leadership's discovered. Right? So we 975 00:34:01,369 --> 00:34:03,394 would love to have you, share this with, 976 00:34:03,674 --> 00:34:06,494 somebody in this calling or a related calling, 977 00:34:06,554 --> 00:34:08,635 and that would be great. And, also, if 978 00:34:08,635 --> 00:34:09,454 you know somebody, 979 00:34:09,835 --> 00:34:11,675 any type of leader who would be a 980 00:34:11,675 --> 00:34:13,855 fantastic guest on the how I lead segment, 981 00:34:14,394 --> 00:34:17,214 reach out to us. Go to leadingsaints.org/contact. 982 00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:19,699 Maybe send this in individual an email letting 983 00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:21,719 them know that you're going to be suggesting 984 00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:23,940 their name for this interview. We'll reach out 985 00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:25,059 to them and, 986 00:34:25,539 --> 00:34:26,739 see if we can line them up. So, 987 00:34:26,739 --> 00:34:29,079 again, go to leadingsaints.org/contact, 988 00:34:29,219 --> 00:34:31,159 and there you can submit all the information 989 00:34:31,525 --> 00:34:33,125 and let us know. And maybe they will 990 00:34:33,125 --> 00:34:34,885 be on a future how I lead segment 991 00:34:34,885 --> 00:34:36,425 on the Leading Saints podcast. 992 00:34:36,885 --> 00:34:39,364 Remember, up your teaching game by listening to 993 00:34:39,364 --> 00:34:43,864 the David Farnsworth presentation by visiting leadingsaints.org/fourteen. 994 00:34:51,929 --> 00:34:54,429 It came as a result of the position 995 00:34:54,489 --> 00:34:57,469 of leadership which was imposed upon us 996 00:34:58,055 --> 00:35:00,695 by the God of heaven who brought forth 997 00:35:00,695 --> 00:35:04,155 a restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 998 00:35:04,615 --> 00:35:05,755 And when the declaration 999 00:35:06,135 --> 00:35:09,414 was made concerning the only and only true 1000 00:35:09,414 --> 00:35:11,735 and living Church upon the face of the 1001 00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:12,235 earth, 1002 00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:15,409 we were immediately put in a position of 1003 00:35:15,469 --> 00:35:15,969 loneliness, 1004 00:35:16,349 --> 00:35:17,969 the loneliness of leadership 1005 00:35:18,829 --> 00:35:21,890 from which we cannot shrink nor run away, 1006 00:35:22,931 --> 00:35:25,411 and to which we must face up with 1007 00:35:25,411 --> 00:35:26,952 boldness and courage 1008 00:35:27,652 --> 00:35:28,391 and ability.