1 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:07,120 Does a youth leader ever feel like they 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,039 have it figured out? This hasn't been my 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,539 experience. 4 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:12,639 However, I couldn't be an effective youth leader 5 00:00:12,639 --> 00:00:14,259 today without Dan Duckworth's 6 00:00:14,594 --> 00:00:17,154 presentation about going from youth worker to youth 7 00:00:17,154 --> 00:00:19,875 mentor. Mentorship is a key concept to understand 8 00:00:19,875 --> 00:00:21,734 when leading youth. In his presentation, 9 00:00:22,274 --> 00:00:24,675 Dan talks about ways to really turn the 10 00:00:24,675 --> 00:00:27,210 traditional approach to leading youth on its head. 11 00:00:27,289 --> 00:00:29,369 How can you better know your purpose? How 12 00:00:29,369 --> 00:00:30,910 can you find out their life goals? 13 00:00:31,289 --> 00:00:33,289 How can you build a relationship that is 14 00:00:33,289 --> 00:00:36,090 transformational rather than simply filling time during the 15 00:00:36,090 --> 00:00:37,229 weekly youth activity? 16 00:00:37,689 --> 00:00:39,309 You can watch Dan's presentation 17 00:00:39,785 --> 00:00:42,265 in the Young Saints virtual library by going 18 00:00:42,265 --> 00:00:44,365 to leadingsaints.org/fourteen. 19 00:00:44,585 --> 00:00:46,664 You'll get free access for fourteen days, and 20 00:00:46,664 --> 00:00:48,505 that will give you plenty of time to 21 00:00:48,505 --> 00:00:49,645 watch Dan's presentation 22 00:00:50,024 --> 00:00:52,605 a few times. Let's give youth the leadership 23 00:00:52,745 --> 00:00:53,460 they deserve. 24 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:00,179 So my name is Kurt Frankem and I 25 00:01:00,179 --> 00:01:02,899 am the founder and executive director of Leading 26 00:01:02,899 --> 00:01:05,459 Saints and, obviously, the host of the Leading 27 00:01:05,459 --> 00:01:08,420 Saints podcast. Now I started Leading Saints back 28 00:01:08,420 --> 00:01:11,325 in 02/2010. It was just a hobby blog 29 00:01:11,545 --> 00:01:13,465 and it grew from there. By the time, 30 00:01:13,784 --> 00:01:14,825 2014 31 00:01:14,825 --> 00:01:17,064 came around, we started the podcast and that's 32 00:01:17,064 --> 00:01:18,364 really when it got some, 33 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:20,984 traction and took off, 02/2016. 34 00:01:20,984 --> 00:01:23,069 We became a five zero one c three 35 00:01:23,069 --> 00:01:26,030 nonprofit organization, and we've been growing ever since. 36 00:01:26,030 --> 00:01:27,329 And now I get the opportunity 37 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:30,670 of interviewing and talking with remarkable people all 38 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:32,909 over the world. Now this is a segment 39 00:01:32,909 --> 00:01:35,234 we do on the Leading Saints podcast called 40 00:01:35,314 --> 00:01:37,474 How I Lead, and we reach out to 41 00:01:37,474 --> 00:01:41,334 everyday leaders. They're not experts, gurus, authors, PhDs. 42 00:01:41,395 --> 00:01:43,635 They're just everyday leaders who've been asked to 43 00:01:43,635 --> 00:01:46,034 serve in a specific leadership calling, and we 44 00:01:46,034 --> 00:01:47,954 simply ask them, how is it that you 45 00:01:47,954 --> 00:01:50,355 lead? And they go through some remarkable principles 46 00:01:50,355 --> 00:01:51,959 that should be in a book, that should 47 00:01:51,959 --> 00:01:54,859 be behind a PhD. They're usually that good, 48 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,240 and, we just talk about, sharing what the 49 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,240 other guy is doing. And I remember being 50 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,400 a leader just simply wanting to know, okay. 51 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,760 I know what I'm trying to do, but 52 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,520 what's the other guy doing? What's working for 53 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,614 him? And so that's why every Wednesday or 54 00:02:06,614 --> 00:02:08,794 so, we publish these how I lead segments 55 00:02:09,254 --> 00:02:09,834 to share. 56 00:02:17,175 --> 00:02:19,334 Another how I lead interview on the leading 57 00:02:19,334 --> 00:02:20,395 saints podcast. 58 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:23,260 In this episode, we talk with James Fletcher. 59 00:02:23,260 --> 00:02:24,080 Man, there's 60 00:02:24,460 --> 00:02:25,980 so much to talk about, so much to 61 00:02:25,980 --> 00:02:28,379 learn from James. He's currently serving as a 62 00:02:28,379 --> 00:02:30,719 bishop, but there's so many things outside 63 00:02:31,260 --> 00:02:34,235 of his maybe church path that is influencing 64 00:02:34,534 --> 00:02:35,254 him as, 65 00:02:36,135 --> 00:02:39,094 preparing him to be a fantastic bishop, especially 66 00:02:39,094 --> 00:02:40,075 working with youth. 67 00:02:40,615 --> 00:02:42,615 He runs an investment firm. He's a finance 68 00:02:42,615 --> 00:02:45,835 guy, does some adjunct teaching at BYU and, 69 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:47,514 at BYU Pathway. 70 00:02:47,969 --> 00:02:50,930 And he also founded a fantastic organization called 71 00:02:50,930 --> 00:02:51,909 the Youth Investors 72 00:02:52,289 --> 00:02:54,449 Society where they work with 3,000 73 00:02:54,449 --> 00:02:54,949 plus, 74 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:57,669 high schools to get them engaged in 75 00:02:57,969 --> 00:03:00,449 in investments and investing in in the financial 76 00:03:00,449 --> 00:03:02,924 world. And there's so many principles from his 77 00:03:02,924 --> 00:03:05,025 time and in with this organization, 78 00:03:05,564 --> 00:03:07,485 this spilled over to his time as bishop, 79 00:03:07,485 --> 00:03:09,324 some principles that I think many of us 80 00:03:09,324 --> 00:03:12,224 will benefit from, especially those bishops or bishoprics 81 00:03:12,284 --> 00:03:14,144 out there or young women's presidencies 82 00:03:14,590 --> 00:03:17,469 who are really trying to engage with youth 83 00:03:17,469 --> 00:03:19,870 in a way that raises the bar, that 84 00:03:19,870 --> 00:03:21,870 gets them to believe in themselves and really 85 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:22,370 accomplish, 86 00:03:22,989 --> 00:03:25,889 great things that they're, meant to accomplish. So 87 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:28,034 here we go. Another episode about, 88 00:03:28,675 --> 00:03:31,074 leading youth and of maybe from the bishopric 89 00:03:31,074 --> 00:03:33,814 standpoint. So here's my interview with James Fletcher. 90 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:42,995 Alright, James. So, how long you been serving 91 00:03:42,995 --> 00:03:43,919 as bishop now? 92 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:46,719 It's been ten months since I got called 93 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:47,459 as bishop. 94 00:03:47,919 --> 00:03:50,000 Perfect. And we don't let anybody on here 95 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,599 that's been less than nine months. No. I'm 96 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:52,259 just kidding. 97 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,159 I'm sure you have a lot to share 98 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,205 and and express. So, 99 00:03:56,925 --> 00:03:58,925 just how would you explain the first ten 100 00:03:58,925 --> 00:04:00,365 months or maybe even the first three months? 101 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:02,525 Like, just finding your footing in this in 102 00:04:02,525 --> 00:04:03,985 this calling, what was that like? 103 00:04:04,925 --> 00:04:06,465 Kurt. As you know, it's, 104 00:04:07,645 --> 00:04:08,625 it's amazing. 105 00:04:09,004 --> 00:04:09,905 It's beautiful. 106 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:11,540 It's, 107 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,919 heavy at times, and you're just, thrown into 108 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:16,419 it. 109 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,860 You know, I'd say, 110 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,660 I have 111 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:22,879 a 100% 112 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:25,620 testimony that Jesus Christ leads this church. 113 00:04:26,144 --> 00:04:29,365 And, you know, being called as bishop and 114 00:04:29,665 --> 00:04:31,444 right after being set apart, 115 00:04:32,305 --> 00:04:35,764 it was just amazing to feel that Jesus 116 00:04:36,625 --> 00:04:38,725 has a strong view 117 00:04:39,105 --> 00:04:39,605 on 118 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:42,389 callings and people and reaching out and the 119 00:04:42,389 --> 00:04:44,410 words to say and the things to do. 120 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:45,769 And all of a sudden, 121 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:49,110 revelations would just come. And it was it 122 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:51,509 was just so apparent to me that, 123 00:04:52,394 --> 00:04:54,314 Christ is is leading the church, and I'm 124 00:04:54,314 --> 00:04:56,314 trying my best to, you know, say the 125 00:04:56,314 --> 00:04:58,154 things and do the things that that he 126 00:04:58,154 --> 00:04:58,894 would say. 127 00:04:59,675 --> 00:05:01,935 But it's been it's been a life changing 128 00:05:02,154 --> 00:05:03,375 experience so far. 129 00:05:03,995 --> 00:05:06,415 That's awesome. And you're in Springville, 130 00:05:07,259 --> 00:05:10,160 Utah? Yes. And, and so pretty, I mean, 131 00:05:10,699 --> 00:05:14,139 pretty traditional Utah, you know, Southern Utah County 132 00:05:14,139 --> 00:05:15,740 that, you know, pretty strong area of the 133 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:19,100 church. Right? Yeah. It's, it's Springville, Utah. Our 134 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:20,240 our ward is actually, 135 00:05:21,564 --> 00:05:23,725 a little unique in Springville or in Utah 136 00:05:23,725 --> 00:05:26,064 County. So we're up Hobble Creek Canyon, 137 00:05:27,165 --> 00:05:29,665 and so we probably have the 138 00:05:30,125 --> 00:05:33,264 highest amount of nonmembers that live in our 139 00:05:33,485 --> 00:05:33,985 geographical 140 00:05:34,285 --> 00:05:34,785 boundaries, 141 00:05:35,404 --> 00:05:36,944 also in active families. 142 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,920 But the ward is is a, I'd say, 143 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,560 a typical ward. There's about 300 people that 144 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,779 attend every week 145 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,220 and about, 146 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,500 400 something on the on the record. So, 147 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,420 yeah. But we have, 148 00:05:50,725 --> 00:05:52,024 you know, primary 149 00:05:52,324 --> 00:05:52,824 youth, 150 00:05:53,444 --> 00:05:54,105 a big, 151 00:05:54,644 --> 00:05:57,045 spectrum in terms of income levels and, 152 00:05:57,845 --> 00:06:01,285 and also, you know, amazing amazing elderly couples 153 00:06:01,285 --> 00:06:04,105 as well. So, yeah, pretty pretty full 154 00:06:04,485 --> 00:06:07,279 spectrum of of needs and and people. 155 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:09,420 And what you know, we say living in 156 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:10,080 the canyon, 157 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:13,259 it it just attracts a certain type of 158 00:06:13,259 --> 00:06:13,759 person, 159 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:15,199 and it also 160 00:06:15,580 --> 00:06:17,520 it also creates a culture 161 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:18,800 where 162 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:21,259 we're looking out for each other. We have 163 00:06:21,259 --> 00:06:23,375 to we have have to survive in the 164 00:06:23,375 --> 00:06:25,855 winter and in the snow and when cars 165 00:06:25,855 --> 00:06:28,254 break down and when you need help on 166 00:06:28,254 --> 00:06:30,415 the road. And and what it ends up 167 00:06:30,415 --> 00:06:32,894 doing is it just creates a unique culture 168 00:06:32,894 --> 00:06:34,894 in our world where where everyone's looking out 169 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:37,430 for each other. It doesn't matter whether you're 170 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:39,110 going to church or not or or a 171 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:41,189 member or not. We're sort of all in 172 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:43,029 it together in the canyon. So so it 173 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:45,029 is it is a unique culture that way. 174 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:46,569 Very, very beautiful, actually. 175 00:06:47,189 --> 00:06:48,870 Maybe let's jump in. Just walk me through, 176 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:50,709 like, your approach to the youth and and 177 00:06:50,709 --> 00:06:51,189 how did you 178 00:06:52,095 --> 00:06:53,535 like, where where do you start when it 179 00:06:53,535 --> 00:06:55,615 comes with youth? Because that's such a heavy 180 00:06:55,615 --> 00:06:58,115 responsibility at times for bishops that, you know, 181 00:06:58,335 --> 00:06:59,395 you wanna get right. 182 00:07:00,095 --> 00:07:02,014 Yeah. Yeah. And that you know, when I 183 00:07:02,014 --> 00:07:02,415 was, 184 00:07:02,895 --> 00:07:05,329 called and, you know, spoke to my wife 185 00:07:05,329 --> 00:07:07,169 and I spoke to our state president, you 186 00:07:07,169 --> 00:07:08,069 know, he said 187 00:07:08,370 --> 00:07:09,589 he said, let 188 00:07:10,209 --> 00:07:13,169 elders corpsman or relief society run the adults 189 00:07:13,169 --> 00:07:16,129 and and focus on the youth, and and 190 00:07:16,129 --> 00:07:18,050 that should be that should be your focus. 191 00:07:18,050 --> 00:07:20,935 And and I I love the youth. 192 00:07:21,954 --> 00:07:23,714 I love these young men and young women 193 00:07:23,714 --> 00:07:25,735 with with all of my heart. 194 00:07:27,314 --> 00:07:29,334 I I do have a unique background. 195 00:07:30,115 --> 00:07:30,365 I, 196 00:07:31,829 --> 00:07:34,709 I've always served with youth and young men 197 00:07:34,709 --> 00:07:37,449 and in scouting, and we've lived in Boston 198 00:07:37,669 --> 00:07:40,550 and Los Angeles and Hong Kong, actually, for 199 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:41,290 five years, 200 00:07:41,829 --> 00:07:42,229 and, 201 00:07:42,709 --> 00:07:44,329 and now here in in Utah. 202 00:07:45,125 --> 00:07:46,264 But one of the, 203 00:07:46,725 --> 00:07:48,264 you know, unique things is, 204 00:07:49,365 --> 00:07:52,245 ten years ago, I started a nonprofit called 205 00:07:52,245 --> 00:07:53,625 Young Investors Society, 206 00:07:54,245 --> 00:07:56,245 and, we can, you know, talk about some 207 00:07:56,245 --> 00:07:58,339 of the stories there if you like. But, 208 00:07:58,339 --> 00:08:00,839 basically, it has become the high school, 209 00:08:01,220 --> 00:08:01,879 the teenage 210 00:08:02,740 --> 00:08:05,240 investing and financial literacy club. 211 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:08,259 I sort of started it you know, we 212 00:08:08,259 --> 00:08:10,339 were living in California at the time, and 213 00:08:10,339 --> 00:08:12,180 we had youth. I was working in youth, 214 00:08:12,180 --> 00:08:14,055 and I had I had the young men 215 00:08:14,055 --> 00:08:16,214 come over to my house every Wednesday night. 216 00:08:16,214 --> 00:08:18,795 And they had questions about the stock market 217 00:08:18,855 --> 00:08:21,275 and about, you know, how to analyze companies. 218 00:08:21,415 --> 00:08:24,214 And and, you know, I just started for 219 00:08:24,214 --> 00:08:27,254 fun, teaching them lessons and classes about the 220 00:08:27,254 --> 00:08:29,759 stock market. And and and what ended up 221 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,439 happening is this, 222 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:33,600 we hit on a nerve where a lot 223 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,179 of teenagers around the world were looking for 224 00:08:36,639 --> 00:08:40,659 learning about financial literacy and and investing. And, 225 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,904 this this little, you know, idea that I 226 00:08:43,904 --> 00:08:45,125 had ten years ago 227 00:08:45,664 --> 00:08:46,644 has snowballed 228 00:08:47,024 --> 00:08:49,764 into first, we had six high schools participating 229 00:08:50,464 --> 00:08:53,184 and then 50 and then a 150 and 230 00:08:53,184 --> 00:08:54,245 then 300. 231 00:08:54,730 --> 00:08:57,710 And this past month, we just surpassed 3,000 232 00:08:57,769 --> 00:08:58,509 high schools 233 00:08:58,889 --> 00:09:00,910 in a 100 countries around the world. 234 00:09:01,370 --> 00:09:03,049 And I spent a lot of my spare 235 00:09:03,049 --> 00:09:03,549 time 236 00:09:03,929 --> 00:09:05,309 working with teens, 237 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:08,350 mostly, you know, not members of the church, 238 00:09:08,495 --> 00:09:10,995 and just talking about, you know, business principles, 239 00:09:11,054 --> 00:09:14,995 investing principles, but also also life principles. So, 240 00:09:15,214 --> 00:09:18,174 anyways, I I love working with you. I 241 00:09:18,174 --> 00:09:20,429 think we've learned a lot of lessons about 242 00:09:20,669 --> 00:09:23,330 how to engage youth, how to engage teams. 243 00:09:24,029 --> 00:09:24,529 And, 244 00:09:25,149 --> 00:09:25,549 it's, 245 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:27,710 it's just been one of my calling's in 246 00:09:27,710 --> 00:09:29,789 life is to help teach them about the 247 00:09:29,789 --> 00:09:32,029 stock market of all things. And now with 248 00:09:32,029 --> 00:09:33,870 Bishop, I get to, you know, help the 249 00:09:33,870 --> 00:09:36,495 youth learn about spiritual things as 250 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:38,475 well. Yeah. So what does that look like 251 00:09:38,475 --> 00:09:40,475 on a week to week basis or, you 252 00:09:40,475 --> 00:09:43,274 know, whether you're doing interviews or whether you're, 253 00:09:43,274 --> 00:09:45,674 you know, leading out on an activity? Like, 254 00:09:45,674 --> 00:09:47,834 what are what are the touch points of 255 00:09:47,834 --> 00:09:49,695 of applying some of these principles? 256 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:51,210 Yeah. 257 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:54,070 So, you know, we're we try and be 258 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:56,470 very engaged with youth on, you know, our 259 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:57,610 weekly weeknights. 260 00:09:58,950 --> 00:10:01,830 We try and and spend time during quorum 261 00:10:01,830 --> 00:10:02,490 on Sunday. 262 00:10:03,995 --> 00:10:06,554 As you know, you know, the responsibility of 263 00:10:06,554 --> 00:10:09,774 Bishop is is you have many different responsibilities 264 00:10:10,154 --> 00:10:11,615 while always trying to 265 00:10:12,235 --> 00:10:13,535 prioritize the youth. 266 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:17,195 I but what I found, and, again, I'm 267 00:10:17,195 --> 00:10:19,340 sort of new into this, is, 268 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:22,460 one is 269 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:23,879 so when I was, 270 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,920 you know, called as Bishop, I actually replaced 271 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,139 one of your previous, 272 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,820 guest who's a who's renowned and beloved, 273 00:10:32,845 --> 00:10:34,785 Bishop Sweat, Anthony Sweat. 274 00:10:35,485 --> 00:10:37,585 And, one of the advice, 275 00:10:38,365 --> 00:10:40,605 points that he gave me is, you know, 276 00:10:40,605 --> 00:10:42,445 I said, how do you judge success when 277 00:10:42,445 --> 00:10:44,625 there's so many things you can be doing 278 00:10:44,684 --> 00:10:46,445 as bishop and you have so much on 279 00:10:46,445 --> 00:10:47,105 your plate? 280 00:10:47,540 --> 00:10:49,300 How do you how do you judge success? 281 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:51,620 And and I've never forgot his response. He 282 00:10:51,620 --> 00:10:52,120 said, 283 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:54,759 pray to receive your errands 284 00:10:55,379 --> 00:10:57,720 or the impression of from the spirit 285 00:10:58,179 --> 00:11:00,019 and act on it. And on a daily 286 00:11:00,019 --> 00:11:01,160 and weekly basis, 287 00:11:01,514 --> 00:11:03,595 if you are receiving an errand from the 288 00:11:03,595 --> 00:11:05,934 spirit and you're acting on it, 289 00:11:06,394 --> 00:11:08,634 then, you know, despite all the things you 290 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:09,535 could be doing, 291 00:11:09,995 --> 00:11:11,295 you can know that, 292 00:11:11,915 --> 00:11:14,014 you know, it's a success. It's a successful 293 00:11:14,154 --> 00:11:14,975 week. So 294 00:11:15,419 --> 00:11:16,159 I I, 295 00:11:17,179 --> 00:11:19,339 try to do that on a daily, weekly 296 00:11:19,339 --> 00:11:19,839 basis. 297 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:22,720 I pray by name, 298 00:11:23,339 --> 00:11:26,139 every morning for all of my young men 299 00:11:26,139 --> 00:11:27,980 and a lot of our ward members that 300 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:28,904 I'm working with. 301 00:11:29,465 --> 00:11:30,764 And then oftentimes, 302 00:11:31,465 --> 00:11:33,705 you know, impressions will come and visits will 303 00:11:33,705 --> 00:11:34,445 happen and 304 00:11:34,745 --> 00:11:37,705 and messages and texts and and reaching out. 305 00:11:37,705 --> 00:11:38,445 And so 306 00:11:38,745 --> 00:11:40,665 I think it's you know, there's never one 307 00:11:40,665 --> 00:11:42,825 answer every week of what what the spirit 308 00:11:42,825 --> 00:11:44,680 will guide you to do or or what 309 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:47,320 you should say, but I think it's being 310 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,100 in tune with those, promptings. 311 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Yeah. I'm sure, you know, many of these 312 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,840 instances are are special and private, but is 313 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,399 is there any specific story that comes to 314 00:11:57,399 --> 00:11:59,394 mind that you're going through that process that's 315 00:11:59,394 --> 00:12:01,095 something you could share? Yeah. 316 00:12:02,034 --> 00:12:02,534 So, 317 00:12:04,194 --> 00:12:05,154 this is this is, 318 00:12:05,794 --> 00:12:08,694 this will take us back fourteen years, but 319 00:12:08,834 --> 00:12:11,554 I was serving as young men's president in 320 00:12:11,554 --> 00:12:12,054 Boston. 321 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,799 I had a young man named Zach that 322 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:18,839 is a wonderful young man and was being 323 00:12:18,839 --> 00:12:21,419 raised by a a a single mother, and, 324 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:24,919 and I was close to him. And and 325 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:27,159 over the years, he's gone through lots of 326 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:29,225 the roller coaster of life and, 327 00:12:29,845 --> 00:12:31,284 you know, did not end up serving the 328 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:33,605 mission and and went through one of the 329 00:12:33,605 --> 00:12:35,304 ups and downs of life. And, 330 00:12:36,644 --> 00:12:39,204 you know, a couple months ago, he reached 331 00:12:39,204 --> 00:12:40,964 out to me and said, you know, brother 332 00:12:40,964 --> 00:12:41,464 Fletcher, 333 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:43,799 can we meet up for lunch? And and 334 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:45,720 and he had come back to a church, 335 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,039 and and he was working to prepare for 336 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:49,179 the temple, and 337 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,240 and he was living in Idaho at the 338 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,220 time. And, 339 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,980 and then, 340 00:12:55,194 --> 00:12:57,674 you know, what was it, four weeks ago. 341 00:12:57,674 --> 00:12:59,595 So with about a week and a half 342 00:12:59,595 --> 00:13:02,254 notice, he he texted and said, 343 00:13:02,714 --> 00:13:03,214 I've, 344 00:13:04,475 --> 00:13:06,714 passed my interview, and I'm gonna receive my 345 00:13:06,714 --> 00:13:08,574 endowment in Pocatello, Idaho. 346 00:13:09,250 --> 00:13:09,750 And, 347 00:13:10,129 --> 00:13:12,050 you know, he said it'll be this Friday 348 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:14,070 or this, you know, upcoming Friday. 349 00:13:14,450 --> 00:13:16,290 I looked at my schedule, and I had, 350 00:13:16,290 --> 00:13:18,889 like, a full calendar of work. And Yeah. 351 00:13:19,009 --> 00:13:21,090 I said, oh, Zach, I wish I could 352 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:23,294 be there. And, you know, it's just last 353 00:13:23,294 --> 00:13:26,014 minute. And as I prayed that night, I 354 00:13:26,014 --> 00:13:28,195 felt that that I should be there, 355 00:13:28,654 --> 00:13:31,475 that it was important. So cleared my calendar, 356 00:13:31,855 --> 00:13:33,235 you know, got up early, 357 00:13:34,095 --> 00:13:35,794 drove, you know, four hours 358 00:13:36,095 --> 00:13:36,595 there, 359 00:13:37,089 --> 00:13:39,330 was there with him through the temple, and, 360 00:13:40,129 --> 00:13:41,409 and then drove back. 361 00:13:42,690 --> 00:13:44,690 And it was it was so powerful. It 362 00:13:44,690 --> 00:13:46,129 was so powerful. I was able to be 363 00:13:46,129 --> 00:13:48,289 his escort, sort of his father figure through 364 00:13:48,289 --> 00:13:49,409 that. Yeah. And, 365 00:13:50,414 --> 00:13:52,495 I think I think it's just being in 366 00:13:52,495 --> 00:13:54,274 tune and willing to, 367 00:13:54,575 --> 00:13:56,914 you know, seek first the kingdom of God 368 00:13:57,294 --> 00:13:59,615 and be willing to make the sacrifices. And 369 00:13:59,615 --> 00:14:01,615 and again, you're not gonna do that every 370 00:14:01,615 --> 00:14:04,319 time, but when the spirit says go, 371 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:07,360 you have to be willing to to go. 372 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:09,579 And, it was just a beautiful day that 373 00:14:09,579 --> 00:14:12,059 that day was that. That's cool. I love 374 00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:14,459 that. Great story. What other principles come to 375 00:14:14,459 --> 00:14:15,980 mind as far as working with youth as 376 00:14:15,980 --> 00:14:18,539 you you're navigating this? Obviously, you haven't dialed 377 00:14:18,539 --> 00:14:19,995 it in or cracked the code by any 378 00:14:19,995 --> 00:14:22,074 means, but there's some other principles that you 379 00:14:22,074 --> 00:14:23,294 try and and focus on. 380 00:14:23,674 --> 00:14:24,154 Yeah. 381 00:14:24,794 --> 00:14:27,115 So and and maybe if I could, I 382 00:14:27,115 --> 00:14:29,454 would just take it back to Young Investors 383 00:14:29,595 --> 00:14:30,654 Society. So, 384 00:14:32,379 --> 00:14:34,860 because a lot of what I've learned working 385 00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:35,600 with you 386 00:14:36,059 --> 00:14:38,139 was through those early days of working with 387 00:14:38,139 --> 00:14:41,279 teens and Young Investors Society. So, you know, 388 00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:44,320 the first story of Young Investors Society, 389 00:14:45,075 --> 00:14:45,575 it, 390 00:14:46,274 --> 00:14:49,315 it started because I visited a class in 391 00:14:49,315 --> 00:14:50,934 inner city Los Angeles. 392 00:14:51,475 --> 00:14:53,315 And I as I was visiting this class, 393 00:14:53,315 --> 00:14:55,394 I was I was representing the stock market 394 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:57,554 game, and this was a very sort of, 395 00:14:57,554 --> 00:14:59,975 you know, low income area of Los Angeles. 396 00:15:00,330 --> 00:15:02,410 I remember going to this school and my 397 00:15:02,410 --> 00:15:04,990 coworker was like, you know, good luck teaching, 398 00:15:05,690 --> 00:15:08,330 you know, this it was Roybal Academy. Like, 399 00:15:08,330 --> 00:15:11,210 good good luck teaching these kids about stock 400 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:12,110 market investing. 401 00:15:12,894 --> 00:15:14,654 And and I went there, and it was, 402 00:15:14,654 --> 00:15:16,034 you know, 99% 403 00:15:16,095 --> 00:15:16,595 Hispanic, 404 00:15:16,975 --> 00:15:17,475 group. 405 00:15:18,014 --> 00:15:20,654 And we just had this remarkable discussion. These 406 00:15:20,654 --> 00:15:22,834 kids were so bright, so engaged. 407 00:15:23,294 --> 00:15:25,134 I told them, like, in my day job 408 00:15:25,134 --> 00:15:27,695 that I invest in emerging markets, and we're 409 00:15:27,695 --> 00:15:30,889 looking for people with, you know, Spanish backgrounds 410 00:15:31,029 --> 00:15:32,970 and different cultural backgrounds, 411 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:35,029 and here's what we do on a daily 412 00:15:35,029 --> 00:15:37,210 basis, and here's how we look at stocks. 413 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:40,309 I I received a letter from a young 414 00:15:40,309 --> 00:15:42,250 man named Edgar, and he said 415 00:15:42,825 --> 00:15:45,144 he said, mister Fletcher, you probably won't believe 416 00:15:45,144 --> 00:15:48,425 this, but your forty five minute visit has 417 00:15:48,425 --> 00:15:50,205 changed my life. It has 418 00:15:50,745 --> 00:15:51,804 he it said, 419 00:15:52,345 --> 00:15:53,965 I now wanna go to college. 420 00:15:54,425 --> 00:15:57,230 I wanna study finance. You've given me something 421 00:15:57,230 --> 00:16:00,129 to strive for. And he said no adult 422 00:16:00,590 --> 00:16:02,929 has ever shown that they cared before, 423 00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:07,309 especially for kids like me. And, that that 424 00:16:07,309 --> 00:16:07,809 phrase, 425 00:16:08,454 --> 00:16:10,774 no adult has ever shown that they cared 426 00:16:10,774 --> 00:16:13,174 before, just would not leave my head. And 427 00:16:13,174 --> 00:16:15,334 then, you know, I went to someone from 428 00:16:15,334 --> 00:16:17,575 Harvard Business School and someone from Merrill Lynch, 429 00:16:17,575 --> 00:16:19,654 and we came together and started the Young 430 00:16:19,654 --> 00:16:21,975 Investors Society. And like I said, it's grown 431 00:16:21,975 --> 00:16:23,034 and grown and grown. 432 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:26,419 But one of the principles I've learned throughout 433 00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:28,740 these years of Young Investors Society is, one, 434 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:31,059 kids need a vision of who they can 435 00:16:31,059 --> 00:16:31,559 become. 436 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:34,820 They need someone to believe in them and 437 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:37,240 love them and meet them where they are. 438 00:16:37,715 --> 00:16:39,735 But I'd say one of the principles 439 00:16:40,035 --> 00:16:41,335 beyond that is 440 00:16:41,794 --> 00:16:43,815 that kids, especially teenagers, 441 00:16:45,075 --> 00:16:47,315 they need a high bar. They need something 442 00:16:47,315 --> 00:16:48,215 that's challenging. 443 00:16:48,754 --> 00:16:50,375 They need to use this sort of 444 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:54,160 raise the challenge on them, and then they 445 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240 rise to it. Right? Like, I have three 446 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,860 teenagers right now at home. 447 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,879 If I tell my teen, you know, go 448 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:03,575 do this puzzle that's easy. You know, they're 449 00:17:03,575 --> 00:17:06,454 bored. They're not engaged. They're not excited. If 450 00:17:06,454 --> 00:17:08,695 they've heard it a million times, they're just 451 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:09,434 not engaged. 452 00:17:10,055 --> 00:17:12,055 If I tell my like, my son came 453 00:17:12,055 --> 00:17:14,055 to me and he's like, I wanna build 454 00:17:14,055 --> 00:17:14,714 a workbench 455 00:17:15,190 --> 00:17:16,650 like Mark Roper does. 456 00:17:17,109 --> 00:17:19,190 And I and I said, alright. Let's think 457 00:17:19,190 --> 00:17:21,029 through how we're gonna do it. And he 458 00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:23,029 went to our neighbor and, you know, all 459 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:25,830 of a sudden, like, we're spending Saturday building 460 00:17:25,830 --> 00:17:28,410 this, you know, workbench. And for 461 00:17:28,765 --> 00:17:29,585 for teenagers, 462 00:17:29,964 --> 00:17:32,044 they need to be challenged. They need to 463 00:17:32,044 --> 00:17:33,825 see what they can become, 464 00:17:34,365 --> 00:17:36,444 and they they need a high bar. Like, 465 00:17:36,444 --> 00:17:39,005 president Nelson, you've you've heard this before. He 466 00:17:39,005 --> 00:17:40,944 said, this rising generation 467 00:17:41,670 --> 00:17:44,090 has the capacity to be smarter 468 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:45,450 and wiser 469 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:48,809 and have more impact on the world than 470 00:17:48,869 --> 00:17:50,410 any previous generation. 471 00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:53,350 And, you know, I've seen that with you. 472 00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:55,430 If you set the bar high, they rise 473 00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:57,625 to it. If you set the bar low 474 00:17:57,625 --> 00:17:59,945 or average, they're just bored. They're just not 475 00:17:59,945 --> 00:18:02,105 engaged. If if you're saying something they've heard 476 00:18:02,105 --> 00:18:03,005 a million times, 477 00:18:03,305 --> 00:18:06,184 they just disconnect. Like like in our core 478 00:18:06,184 --> 00:18:06,684 meetings, 479 00:18:07,865 --> 00:18:10,519 we start off every lesson because they're preparing 480 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:12,779 to be missionaries in a couple years or 481 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:13,500 or soon. 482 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,200 We start with a role play question of 483 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,680 what they'll receive on their mission, and we're 484 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,400 not giving them, like, softball questions. Right? We're 485 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,634 giving them, like, hard investigator questions 486 00:18:25,174 --> 00:18:27,034 that they need to think through, wrestle. 487 00:18:27,414 --> 00:18:29,115 They need to answer with scriptures. 488 00:18:29,894 --> 00:18:31,815 And the kids, like, rise to it. They 489 00:18:31,815 --> 00:18:33,994 love it. It's exciting. It's challenging. 490 00:18:34,615 --> 00:18:36,150 Whereas if, you know, you just, 491 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:37,930 you know, make it easy, 492 00:18:38,309 --> 00:18:40,869 you know, teens, they they disengage. These are 493 00:18:40,869 --> 00:18:43,210 smart kids. This is the smartest generation 494 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:45,990 that's ever come to the earth as president 495 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:47,210 Nelson said. Right? 496 00:18:47,589 --> 00:18:49,765 Awesome. So, I mean, when you so as 497 00:18:49,765 --> 00:18:51,525 you're engaging with the kids, you walk into 498 00:18:51,525 --> 00:18:53,444 a room. I'm just thinking, like, scenario. Oh, 499 00:18:53,444 --> 00:18:54,025 you know? 500 00:18:54,404 --> 00:18:56,005 So so glad you're here, James. We need 501 00:18:56,005 --> 00:18:58,005 you to go set the vision and set 502 00:18:58,005 --> 00:19:00,005 some standards for for these youth. I mean, 503 00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:01,924 it's more of, like, taking them to that 504 00:19:01,924 --> 00:19:04,859 higher a higher level. Right? Raising the floor 505 00:19:04,859 --> 00:19:06,059 almost where, 506 00:19:07,019 --> 00:19:08,380 you know, like you did that at that 507 00:19:08,380 --> 00:19:11,579 school. It's like nobody had really even thought 508 00:19:11,579 --> 00:19:12,859 to go to a place like the stock 509 00:19:12,859 --> 00:19:14,539 market. Like, oh, that's so above them. They 510 00:19:14,539 --> 00:19:16,460 wouldn't understand it. Or would they even like 511 00:19:16,460 --> 00:19:18,240 it? But when you went there, suddenly 512 00:19:18,595 --> 00:19:19,335 those who 513 00:19:19,875 --> 00:19:22,434 wanted to, right, rose to that occasion. Yep. 514 00:19:22,434 --> 00:19:23,575 Yep. Exactly. 515 00:19:24,115 --> 00:19:26,835 It's been interesting at Young Investors Society, for 516 00:19:26,835 --> 00:19:27,335 example. 517 00:19:28,595 --> 00:19:32,055 We have piloted so many different competitions 518 00:19:32,515 --> 00:19:33,975 and lessons for teens 519 00:19:34,539 --> 00:19:36,700 and to see, like, what sticks and what 520 00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:38,400 what doesn't. In one year, 521 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:41,420 we did a we called it a varsity 522 00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:42,960 and a JV competition 523 00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:46,380 because the varsity like, our our our main 524 00:19:46,380 --> 00:19:46,880 competition 525 00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:48,799 is to do a full stock 526 00:19:49,154 --> 00:19:50,295 research report 527 00:19:50,674 --> 00:19:53,075 all the way from company analysis to income 528 00:19:53,075 --> 00:19:55,475 statement analysis, and then they do a full 529 00:19:55,475 --> 00:19:58,195 valuation model. They're doing a discounted cash flow 530 00:19:58,195 --> 00:20:01,330 model, SWOT analysis, all their financials. It was 531 00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:03,970 very advanced. Like, it's it's as advanced as, 532 00:20:03,970 --> 00:20:05,590 like, a high level college 533 00:20:05,970 --> 00:20:08,529 student would do. And we said, okay. Like, 534 00:20:08,529 --> 00:20:10,930 for kids like Edgar, right, like like, they're 535 00:20:10,930 --> 00:20:13,190 just beginning from inner city Los Angeles, 536 00:20:13,494 --> 00:20:16,454 Let's do, like, a very watered down version. 537 00:20:16,454 --> 00:20:19,414 They can analyze the company, but just do, 538 00:20:19,414 --> 00:20:21,914 like, strain, sweetnesses, opportunities, threats. 539 00:20:23,174 --> 00:20:25,015 And guess what? That year, we thought it 540 00:20:25,015 --> 00:20:25,799 would be, like, 541 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:27,580 like, 60% 542 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,580 varsity, 40% JV. 543 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,640 We had 97% 544 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,720 of the students choose the higher level of 545 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,220 competition, 546 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,980 and only 3% 547 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:36,539 chose, 548 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,220 like, the basic competition. 549 00:20:38,884 --> 00:20:40,725 Like like, it was and it was so 550 00:20:40,725 --> 00:20:42,404 telling to us every time we try and, 551 00:20:42,404 --> 00:20:45,365 like, do a basic level, the kids are 552 00:20:45,365 --> 00:20:46,585 just not that interested. 553 00:20:47,125 --> 00:20:49,125 And and every time we, like, push them 554 00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:50,965 to the next level and give them something 555 00:20:50,965 --> 00:20:51,365 challenging 556 00:20:51,924 --> 00:20:53,684 and I think we see the same thing 557 00:20:53,684 --> 00:20:55,920 in the church. Right? Like, when we truly 558 00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:58,859 treat these young men and young women like 559 00:20:58,859 --> 00:21:01,019 like the leaders that they are and and 560 00:21:01,019 --> 00:21:03,279 empower them and let them run with it, 561 00:21:03,580 --> 00:21:05,500 they do an amazing job. Like like, let 562 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:07,359 me tell you another story. We had, 563 00:21:09,674 --> 00:21:11,914 well, it it's a long story, but our 564 00:21:11,914 --> 00:21:14,255 young I'll summarize it. Our young women 565 00:21:14,795 --> 00:21:17,434 were reaching out or thinking about a family 566 00:21:17,434 --> 00:21:19,694 that hadn't attended church in many years, 567 00:21:20,990 --> 00:21:23,549 and the young women leaders, the young the 568 00:21:23,549 --> 00:21:24,210 young women, 569 00:21:24,669 --> 00:21:26,990 you know, class president, they thought let's do 570 00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:29,089 a service project to this family. 571 00:21:29,470 --> 00:21:32,289 They visited this family. They they just overloaded 572 00:21:32,349 --> 00:21:34,289 them with, Christmas gift, 573 00:21:34,785 --> 00:21:37,345 and it touched the family so much that 574 00:21:37,345 --> 00:21:39,184 that they started coming back to church. And 575 00:21:39,184 --> 00:21:40,244 they have three girls. 576 00:21:40,545 --> 00:21:41,765 Their oldest girl, 577 00:21:43,585 --> 00:21:45,825 came to youth conference this year. And, again, 578 00:21:45,825 --> 00:21:47,970 she hadn't gone to church in three years. 579 00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:50,309 Came to youth conference, had a great experience, 580 00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:52,069 came to the girls camp 581 00:21:52,450 --> 00:21:53,190 last week, 582 00:21:53,650 --> 00:21:56,230 you know, in beautiful Heber Valley girls camp. 583 00:21:56,849 --> 00:21:59,490 The whole camp was there, and guess who 584 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:01,329 we chose to say the prayer in front 585 00:22:01,329 --> 00:22:03,190 of all the girls? We chose 586 00:22:03,615 --> 00:22:06,115 we chose Annika, and she said a beautiful 587 00:22:06,174 --> 00:22:08,434 prayer. And then we asked her to speak 588 00:22:08,654 --> 00:22:10,734 this Sunday, and she gave this talk this, 589 00:22:10,734 --> 00:22:12,194 you know, this past Sunday. 590 00:22:12,734 --> 00:22:13,234 And 591 00:22:13,615 --> 00:22:15,535 I kid you not, Kurt, when she was 592 00:22:15,535 --> 00:22:16,275 up there, 593 00:22:16,734 --> 00:22:18,355 the spirit was so strong. 594 00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:21,650 And she talked about how when she was 595 00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:23,109 researching her talk 596 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:25,650 that she was guided by the spirit on 597 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:28,289 what topic to choose, and you could just 598 00:22:28,289 --> 00:22:29,990 feel it. Like, she had been 599 00:22:30,369 --> 00:22:32,710 prepared by the spirit to give the talk. 600 00:22:32,794 --> 00:22:35,534 She delivered this, you know, remarkable talk. 601 00:22:35,994 --> 00:22:37,375 And I just think 602 00:22:37,755 --> 00:22:39,454 anyone, like, we can just 603 00:22:40,394 --> 00:22:42,315 believe in them, help them rise to the 604 00:22:42,315 --> 00:22:44,154 occasion. And all of a sudden, you know, 605 00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:45,755 this young woman that hadn't been to church 606 00:22:45,755 --> 00:22:48,339 in years is, you know, saying the opening 607 00:22:48,339 --> 00:22:51,480 prayer girls camp and giving this, like, remarkable 608 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:54,420 talk in sacrament meetings. So I just think 609 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:57,000 believing in them and giving them chances to 610 00:22:57,460 --> 00:22:59,460 to really rise to the occasion and gain 611 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:00,200 that confidence. 612 00:23:01,605 --> 00:23:03,384 Yeah. So there's a few principles 613 00:23:03,924 --> 00:23:05,445 that are standing out here, and correct me 614 00:23:05,445 --> 00:23:06,724 if I'm sort of off base with how 615 00:23:06,724 --> 00:23:09,285 you're articulating them, but there's sort of this, 616 00:23:10,005 --> 00:23:12,565 this invitation to engage. Right? I I think 617 00:23:12,565 --> 00:23:13,065 naturally, 618 00:23:13,845 --> 00:23:15,705 not just with youth, but in general, 619 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,079 especially in your church setting, the temptation is, 620 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:19,599 like, to prepare the lesson and go in 621 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:21,279 there and talk talk about the lesson. And, 622 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:23,519 yeah, sure. We'll have some interaction. You know, 623 00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:25,440 this person will read that paragraph or, you 624 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,960 know, maybe I'll ask this one question. We'll 625 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,515 talk about it for a few minutes. But 626 00:23:28,835 --> 00:23:31,154 this is more of a interactive experience, would 627 00:23:31,154 --> 00:23:32,375 you say, with with youth? 628 00:23:33,154 --> 00:23:33,654 Exactly. 629 00:23:34,035 --> 00:23:36,835 Exactly. Yeah. I mean so and we we 630 00:23:36,835 --> 00:23:38,134 tailor it by, 631 00:23:39,394 --> 00:23:41,815 age level. So so the deacons 632 00:23:42,195 --> 00:23:43,095 will teach, 633 00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:44,390 you know, sometimes, 634 00:23:44,849 --> 00:23:47,109 but the leader, I'd say, will teach maybe 635 00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:48,769 the majority of the lesson and then they'll 636 00:23:48,769 --> 00:23:49,590 help teach. 637 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:52,150 By the time their teacher's quorum, 638 00:23:52,450 --> 00:23:54,450 you know, age for young women as as 639 00:23:54,450 --> 00:23:54,950 well, 640 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:57,269 they are maybe co teaching. 641 00:23:57,634 --> 00:24:00,195 And by the time they're priest corps, they're 642 00:24:00,195 --> 00:24:01,174 leading the lesson. 643 00:24:02,035 --> 00:24:04,035 Like I said, you know, we're doing, you 644 00:24:04,035 --> 00:24:06,934 know, missionary role play and, like, tough questions 645 00:24:07,715 --> 00:24:10,855 to engage them. We do missionary prep nights, 646 00:24:11,154 --> 00:24:12,215 every other Sunday 647 00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:15,140 at a member's house. And and, again, like, 648 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:16,900 that discussion is not, 649 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,580 is not Book of Mormon one zero one. 650 00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:23,240 It is it is really building their testimony. 651 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,000 It's answering tough questions. 652 00:24:25,299 --> 00:24:26,759 It's preparing them, 653 00:24:27,525 --> 00:24:29,525 for the mission that that they're gonna go 654 00:24:29,525 --> 00:24:31,605 on. So it yeah. I mean, I think 655 00:24:31,605 --> 00:24:33,445 for youth and this is the same thing 656 00:24:33,445 --> 00:24:36,105 with Young Investors Society too. Like, it's, 657 00:24:36,725 --> 00:24:37,945 one thing to teach 658 00:24:38,325 --> 00:24:40,184 personal finance in a classroom, 659 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:43,380 And, actually, Utah, you know, mandates that all 660 00:24:43,380 --> 00:24:45,319 high schools teach personal finance, 661 00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:47,940 and my kids, you know, have learned personal 662 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:49,779 finance in high school. And what they do 663 00:24:49,779 --> 00:24:51,539 is they sit in a classroom and a 664 00:24:51,539 --> 00:24:53,000 teacher tells them about, 665 00:24:53,335 --> 00:24:55,894 you know, bonds and, you know, savings rates 666 00:24:55,894 --> 00:24:59,335 and interest rates. And and almost universally, they'll 667 00:24:59,335 --> 00:25:01,255 say that was the most boring class in 668 00:25:01,255 --> 00:25:03,815 high school, you know, and it was just, 669 00:25:03,815 --> 00:25:05,815 you know, and just being taught to. And 670 00:25:05,815 --> 00:25:07,654 what we do in Young Investors Society is 671 00:25:07,654 --> 00:25:10,500 we flip it. We say, like, we believe 672 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:12,659 in you, and you guys are doing AP 673 00:25:12,659 --> 00:25:15,079 Calculus. Right? You're so smart already. 674 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:17,539 And so now we're just gonna take that 675 00:25:17,539 --> 00:25:18,440 same brain 676 00:25:18,980 --> 00:25:21,480 and analyze the income statement of Tesla 677 00:25:21,974 --> 00:25:24,375 and and prepare a, you know, stock pitch, 678 00:25:24,375 --> 00:25:26,295 you know, presentation on it. And all of 679 00:25:26,295 --> 00:25:29,015 a sudden, they're engaged because they're doing it. 680 00:25:29,015 --> 00:25:31,335 They're they're the ones, you know, doing the 681 00:25:31,335 --> 00:25:31,835 research. 682 00:25:32,375 --> 00:25:34,454 I think same thing with youth, like, in 683 00:25:34,454 --> 00:25:36,554 the church. Like, they have to be doing 684 00:25:37,170 --> 00:25:39,110 bringing temple names to the temple, 685 00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:42,549 doing missionary work themselves, preparing lessons. 686 00:25:43,330 --> 00:25:46,150 This is what engages them, and it allows 687 00:25:46,210 --> 00:25:47,910 the spirit to work through them 688 00:25:48,210 --> 00:25:49,029 rather than 689 00:25:49,454 --> 00:25:51,294 being talked to. I mean, it's the difference 690 00:25:51,294 --> 00:25:53,694 of, you know, doing a presentation for Young 691 00:25:53,694 --> 00:25:55,954 Investors Society or just sitting in a classroom 692 00:25:56,015 --> 00:25:58,674 and being talked to about personal finance. Like, 693 00:25:58,815 --> 00:26:00,815 one, they'll say that's the most boring class 694 00:26:00,815 --> 00:26:02,880 in high school, and the other will say, 695 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,960 like, these were this was so fun and 696 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,480 so engaging. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's just 697 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,759 a lot to take away from that in 698 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:11,220 that youth setting. And, really, 699 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,200 you know, and I think we're a lot 700 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,559 of people get there and, you know, they 701 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,559 make it more engaging or interactive the best 702 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,295 they can, but, I don't know. There's there's 703 00:26:18,295 --> 00:26:20,055 so many ways to do that. Right? And 704 00:26:20,055 --> 00:26:20,555 really, 705 00:26:21,575 --> 00:26:23,575 because I I think the temptation is sometimes 706 00:26:23,575 --> 00:26:25,414 we wanna get to the how do I 707 00:26:25,414 --> 00:26:27,015 get what they gotta know about this doctrinal 708 00:26:27,015 --> 00:26:28,934 principle. I gotta just Yeah. Sort of beat 709 00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:30,295 them over the head with it until they 710 00:26:30,295 --> 00:26:32,240 get it. And Yeah. But to sort of 711 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,579 invite them into the scriptures or invite them 712 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,579 to figure something out or Yeah. 713 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,960 That there's a lot a lot that could 714 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,460 happen there. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. 715 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,759 The other principle I'm sort of hearing in 716 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:44,659 this is that, 717 00:26:45,375 --> 00:26:46,974 you know, you talk about the the varsity 718 00:26:46,974 --> 00:26:48,914 and junior varsity levels. Like Yeah. 719 00:26:49,775 --> 00:26:51,375 Because because if you just go into a 720 00:26:51,375 --> 00:26:53,134 place with a varsity level thing, you're you 721 00:26:53,134 --> 00:26:55,134 could overwhelm some of those students or especially 722 00:26:55,134 --> 00:26:57,615 those that maybe have low self esteem or, 723 00:26:57,615 --> 00:26:59,609 you know, they've they may be not good 724 00:26:59,609 --> 00:27:01,690 students. They're like, I I can't do that. 725 00:27:01,690 --> 00:27:04,090 And so they're they'll immediately kinda turn off. 726 00:27:04,090 --> 00:27:05,549 But to maybe give them 727 00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:06,830 options to, 728 00:27:07,369 --> 00:27:08,590 you know, challenge themselves 729 00:27:09,049 --> 00:27:09,950 or or or 730 00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:12,615 to not push themselves too far, is that 731 00:27:12,694 --> 00:27:13,434 is that accurate? 732 00:27:13,974 --> 00:27:16,134 Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that's that's the 733 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,694 flip side. Right? Is is you need to 734 00:27:18,694 --> 00:27:20,154 set the bar high, 735 00:27:20,934 --> 00:27:23,515 but you also need to have high follow-up 736 00:27:23,815 --> 00:27:26,535 and high sort of mentorship along the way. 737 00:27:26,535 --> 00:27:28,799 So and and you've probably heard this as 738 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,440 well, but Elder Anderson talks about, you know, 739 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,059 high love, high expectations. 740 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:34,019 Right? 741 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,380 And and he says 742 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,399 that's the that's the counsel that he'll give 743 00:27:38,399 --> 00:27:40,880 to mission leaders and his counsel he'll give 744 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,554 to, you know, bishops and youth leaders. But 745 00:27:43,554 --> 00:27:45,575 if you have high expectations 746 00:27:46,035 --> 00:27:47,255 and low love, 747 00:27:48,035 --> 00:27:50,994 then it is turns into just a numbers 748 00:27:50,994 --> 00:27:53,875 game, and you tend to not have real 749 00:27:53,875 --> 00:27:54,375 conversion 750 00:27:54,755 --> 00:27:57,095 of of converts in the mission, for example. 751 00:27:57,420 --> 00:27:59,820 If you have high ex high love but 752 00:27:59,820 --> 00:28:00,720 low expectations, 753 00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:03,840 then you have a lot of friends, 754 00:28:04,619 --> 00:28:06,460 but you don't have a lot of growth 755 00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:08,220 and a lot of stretching. So so the 756 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:10,240 key is high love, high expectations. 757 00:28:10,619 --> 00:28:13,295 Right? So, like, for Young Investors Society, 758 00:28:13,835 --> 00:28:14,894 what we do is, 759 00:28:15,595 --> 00:28:17,355 you know, the bar is still the same, 760 00:28:17,355 --> 00:28:19,375 and we have a number of different competitions, 761 00:28:19,515 --> 00:28:21,615 and we're helping kids all along the way. 762 00:28:22,075 --> 00:28:24,154 But then where is the high love or 763 00:28:24,154 --> 00:28:26,679 the high support? Right? So in Young Investors 764 00:28:26,679 --> 00:28:27,179 Society, 765 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,059 we have a mentorship program where basically 766 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:31,899 two financial professionals 767 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:33,659 adopt a school, 768 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,019 and they are meeting monthly with these students. 769 00:28:37,525 --> 00:28:40,464 And they're essentially you know, they're administered in 770 00:28:40,565 --> 00:28:43,285 a in a in a church context, but 771 00:28:43,285 --> 00:28:46,085 they are they are mentoring these students. So 772 00:28:46,085 --> 00:28:47,365 a lot of times, you know, if it's 773 00:28:47,365 --> 00:28:49,204 a low income school or we call it 774 00:28:49,204 --> 00:28:52,150 an access school, we assign them two mentors 775 00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:54,250 and they may be from, you know, Fidelity 776 00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:56,549 Investments. And all of a sudden, just like 777 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:59,529 Edgar said to me, like, building that bridge 778 00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:02,630 was priceless to him and no one has 779 00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:03,130 ever, 780 00:29:03,605 --> 00:29:05,545 you know, showed that they cared before, 781 00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:08,744 we're building these mentorship bridges 782 00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:11,945 through these, you know, through our access initiative. 783 00:29:12,644 --> 00:29:15,045 And these kids are getting at least a 784 00:29:15,045 --> 00:29:16,984 monthly visit with two professionals. 785 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200 And what ends up happening is, yes, they're 786 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,019 helping them with their studies and their competitions, 787 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,799 but, really, I mean, I've been mentors for 788 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:27,400 a lot of schools. A lot of it 789 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,039 is career advice and college advice. Right? So 790 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,414 they just want, like, okay. Like, okay. That's 791 00:29:32,414 --> 00:29:34,494 fine. Like, well, help me with my Stockfish 792 00:29:34,494 --> 00:29:35,794 competition, but also 793 00:29:36,815 --> 00:29:38,894 help me with, like, where should I go 794 00:29:38,894 --> 00:29:40,734 to college, and what should I study, and 795 00:29:40,734 --> 00:29:42,835 what should my application be like? 796 00:29:44,669 --> 00:29:47,149 Same thing with with young men and young 797 00:29:47,149 --> 00:29:49,569 women. Right? Like, it's high expectation, 798 00:29:49,869 --> 00:29:52,690 high love. Right? The Lord has high expectations. 799 00:29:53,149 --> 00:29:53,649 Why? 800 00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:55,490 Because you are 801 00:29:55,869 --> 00:29:56,924 saved for the last 802 00:29:57,404 --> 00:29:59,244 day, and you are some of the greatest 803 00:29:59,244 --> 00:30:01,085 young men and young women to ever come 804 00:30:01,085 --> 00:30:03,725 to vote. Earth. Right? That's what president Nelson 805 00:30:03,725 --> 00:30:05,664 said. You're smarter. You're wiser. 806 00:30:05,965 --> 00:30:08,684 Your ability for impact is greater than any 807 00:30:08,684 --> 00:30:11,769 generation that's ever come. And laws are laws, 808 00:30:11,769 --> 00:30:13,529 and we're gonna be held to a high 809 00:30:13,529 --> 00:30:14,509 standard. But 810 00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:17,450 the high love comes along with it, which 811 00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:17,950 is 812 00:30:18,410 --> 00:30:21,210 mentorship and support and, you know, the best 813 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:23,289 mentorship is peer to peer. So if you 814 00:30:23,289 --> 00:30:25,230 get kids, helping kids. 815 00:30:26,515 --> 00:30:28,515 So I think it's just that mentality like 816 00:30:28,515 --> 00:30:31,654 elder Anderson says, high love, high expectations. 817 00:30:32,515 --> 00:30:34,755 And and you're not lowering the bar. You're 818 00:30:34,755 --> 00:30:37,394 you're actually raising the bar, and that is 819 00:30:37,394 --> 00:30:38,375 what is inspiring 820 00:30:39,075 --> 00:30:40,134 action and growth. 821 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,120 But you're making sure that you're loving and 822 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,980 supporting them along that journey. 823 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:46,259 Yeah. 824 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,039 Any any other point principle with, as far 825 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,880 as your approach with youth or engaging or 826 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640 mentoring youth that we need to make sure 827 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,299 we cover? 828 00:30:54,154 --> 00:30:55,214 You know, I would 829 00:30:55,515 --> 00:30:57,054 I would say to, 830 00:30:57,914 --> 00:30:59,595 and this this goes back, you know, that 831 00:30:59,595 --> 00:31:01,994 that initial story for Edgar and Young Investors 832 00:31:01,994 --> 00:31:02,974 Society, but 833 00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:04,974 showing youth 834 00:31:05,355 --> 00:31:07,869 their gifts and their talents and that you 835 00:31:07,869 --> 00:31:09,009 believe in them, 836 00:31:10,109 --> 00:31:11,950 that, you know, the worth of souls is 837 00:31:11,950 --> 00:31:13,869 great in the sight of God. One of 838 00:31:13,869 --> 00:31:16,349 the scriptures that, you know, we recently studied 839 00:31:16,349 --> 00:31:17,789 that, you know, stood out for me because 840 00:31:17,789 --> 00:31:19,470 it does talk about bishops, but I think 841 00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:22,414 it talks about leaders in general is in 842 00:31:22,414 --> 00:31:24,355 doctrine and covenants 46 843 00:31:24,734 --> 00:31:26,575 where it's talking about the gifts of the 844 00:31:26,575 --> 00:31:27,075 spirit. 845 00:31:27,455 --> 00:31:29,375 And and listen to this. It says, unto 846 00:31:29,375 --> 00:31:30,994 the bishop of the church 847 00:31:31,535 --> 00:31:34,335 and unto such as God shall appoint and 848 00:31:34,335 --> 00:31:37,289 ordain to watch over the church. So essentially 849 00:31:37,589 --> 00:31:39,450 all leaders of the church. Right? 850 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,609 It is given unto them to discern 851 00:31:43,910 --> 00:31:46,470 all the gifts, lest there should be any 852 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:47,769 among you professing 853 00:31:48,309 --> 00:31:48,765 that, 854 00:31:49,644 --> 00:31:51,884 and yet be not of God. And it 855 00:31:51,884 --> 00:31:53,884 shall come to pass that he that asketh 856 00:31:53,884 --> 00:31:54,785 in the spirit 857 00:31:55,244 --> 00:31:56,865 shall receive in the spirit. 858 00:31:57,484 --> 00:31:58,865 So one of my interpretations 859 00:31:59,244 --> 00:32:01,484 of this is as bishop and as a 860 00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:01,984 leader, 861 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840 one of my roles is to discern the 862 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,740 gifts of others. 863 00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,640 And I believe, and I fully view it, 864 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,680 is part of discerning gift is pointing out 865 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,180 gift, 866 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,740 is is saying, you know what, Zach? 867 00:32:16,595 --> 00:32:19,255 You have a gift of kindness. 868 00:32:19,634 --> 00:32:21,315 You know? You are you are just loyal 869 00:32:21,315 --> 00:32:22,134 to your friends. 870 00:32:22,595 --> 00:32:24,775 And and that is me as a leader 871 00:32:25,474 --> 00:32:26,615 discerning gifts 872 00:32:26,914 --> 00:32:29,734 and also helping them recognize their gift. 873 00:32:30,595 --> 00:32:31,815 I think youth, you 874 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:35,150 you know, they they they follow by example, 875 00:32:35,289 --> 00:32:37,849 and they follow by leaders and parents and 876 00:32:37,849 --> 00:32:38,349 adults, 877 00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:39,950 helping them see, 878 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:42,829 you know, their potential. I I think youth 879 00:32:43,049 --> 00:32:44,029 struggle with, 880 00:32:45,075 --> 00:32:47,234 you know, low self esteem. I think it's 881 00:32:47,234 --> 00:32:49,815 very tough growing up in in today's world. 882 00:32:49,954 --> 00:32:51,494 I think they struggle with anxiety. 883 00:32:51,954 --> 00:32:54,034 We were we were just at girls camp, 884 00:32:54,355 --> 00:32:56,835 last week, as I said. And and one 885 00:32:56,835 --> 00:32:58,434 of the things they did at girls camp 886 00:32:58,434 --> 00:33:00,609 is they had all the girls write in 887 00:33:00,609 --> 00:33:01,750 a in a UV, 888 00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:03,190 pen 889 00:33:04,529 --> 00:33:07,410 what they would love Jesus Christ, their savior, 890 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:09,589 to help them overcome in their life. 891 00:33:10,049 --> 00:33:10,549 And 892 00:33:12,065 --> 00:33:14,404 and then they show it in an interactive 893 00:33:14,545 --> 00:33:16,724 way as they're walking through this path. 894 00:33:17,345 --> 00:33:17,664 And, 895 00:33:18,945 --> 00:33:20,325 it was astonishing 896 00:33:20,704 --> 00:33:21,445 and heartbreaking 897 00:33:22,464 --> 00:33:24,164 and harrowing to the soul 898 00:33:24,704 --> 00:33:25,365 to see 899 00:33:25,869 --> 00:33:28,289 the challenges that all the young women 900 00:33:28,589 --> 00:33:31,470 are struggling with on the inside, and maybe 901 00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:33,250 it's not apparent from the outside. 902 00:33:34,029 --> 00:33:37,390 And so I think youth, as leaders of 903 00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:37,890 youth, 904 00:33:38,284 --> 00:33:39,904 it is our responsibility, 905 00:33:40,204 --> 00:33:42,204 as it says in doctor and covenants 20 906 00:33:42,284 --> 00:33:43,105 46, 907 00:33:43,325 --> 00:33:45,744 to discern their gifts and their potential 908 00:33:46,365 --> 00:33:48,625 and point it out and let them know. 909 00:33:49,404 --> 00:33:52,144 And so that's one thing. Yeah. Any opportunity 910 00:33:52,284 --> 00:33:53,345 we have to 911 00:33:53,899 --> 00:33:56,779 point out their goodness and their potential and 912 00:33:56,779 --> 00:33:59,839 and specific compliments to them, I think, goes 913 00:34:00,059 --> 00:34:01,919 a a long, long way for these youth. 914 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:04,480 Yeah. That's that's fantastic. 915 00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:08,835 James, anything else as far as I mean, 916 00:34:08,835 --> 00:34:11,235 there's so many principles here. Anything else as 917 00:34:11,235 --> 00:34:13,015 far as with the the youth that you've 918 00:34:13,315 --> 00:34:15,875 discovered or or you're applying or or finding 919 00:34:15,875 --> 00:34:17,655 success with? Any principle there? 920 00:34:18,675 --> 00:34:20,099 No. And I think, 921 00:34:20,660 --> 00:34:23,160 well, just to add to the previous principle 922 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:24,599 of pointing out their, 923 00:34:25,460 --> 00:34:26,519 gifts and talents, 924 00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:28,200 I I think, 925 00:34:29,539 --> 00:34:32,360 loving them in real and natural 926 00:34:32,660 --> 00:34:33,160 ways. 927 00:34:35,015 --> 00:34:37,494 And and, really, that's you know, everyone that 928 00:34:37,494 --> 00:34:39,275 walks in my office as bishop, 929 00:34:39,815 --> 00:34:40,875 they should feel 930 00:34:41,175 --> 00:34:42,394 the love of the savior 931 00:34:43,095 --> 00:34:45,494 in a way that is, you know, the 932 00:34:45,494 --> 00:34:48,235 prodigal son's father running to them. 933 00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:50,579 Right? That same, like, like, 934 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:52,820 insatiable 935 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,820 love and astonishingly 936 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,099 great love. And I think youth feel it 937 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,340 when it's real and when it's genuine. 938 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,900 When it's when it's, you know, 939 00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:05,394 when it's just part of the program of 940 00:35:05,394 --> 00:35:08,054 church and showing up to a Tuesday activity 941 00:35:08,195 --> 00:35:10,755 and teaching a lesson and saying I love 942 00:35:10,755 --> 00:35:11,734 you on their birthday. 943 00:35:12,355 --> 00:35:14,835 You know, youth pains are so smart these 944 00:35:14,835 --> 00:35:16,135 days. They're so 945 00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:17,280 they're 946 00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:21,019 so aware of of how much you really 947 00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:23,599 mean it. Love love is a verb. Right? 948 00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:26,720 And love is action. And, like, love is 949 00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:30,220 action that surprises them, that astonishes them, that 950 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:32,385 is out of the normal. 951 00:35:33,885 --> 00:35:36,125 And, so I just think, yeah, pointing out 952 00:35:36,125 --> 00:35:36,864 their talents 953 00:35:37,244 --> 00:35:39,505 and showing love in a way that is 954 00:35:39,885 --> 00:35:41,804 that is different than what they would have 955 00:35:41,804 --> 00:35:44,525 expected. They'll be like, woah. I can't believe 956 00:35:44,525 --> 00:35:46,500 he did that like Zach. Right? Like, I 957 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:47,239 can't believe, 958 00:35:47,539 --> 00:35:49,320 you know, Bishop Fletcher 959 00:35:49,619 --> 00:35:51,699 dropped everything on a Friday and drove to 960 00:35:51,699 --> 00:35:53,639 Pocatello for four hours. Right? 961 00:35:54,099 --> 00:35:56,099 Like, those are the things they remember and 962 00:35:56,099 --> 00:35:57,000 that they say, 963 00:35:58,019 --> 00:36:00,260 he really loves me. Right? And I think 964 00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:02,144 as a leader, we're trying to show that 965 00:36:02,224 --> 00:36:03,445 that Christ like love. 966 00:36:04,144 --> 00:36:05,985 Yeah. That's awesome. I wanna make sure we 967 00:36:05,985 --> 00:36:08,085 give a good plug to your this organization 968 00:36:08,224 --> 00:36:09,364 you talk to. If people 969 00:36:09,905 --> 00:36:11,664 wanna know more information and I don't know 970 00:36:11,664 --> 00:36:14,304 if it's specifically, like, like or who who 971 00:36:14,304 --> 00:36:16,230 should just anybody who knows a youth or 972 00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:17,750 youth who would be interested or people who 973 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:18,570 work in the schools 974 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:20,570 or maybe plug that for us. 975 00:36:20,869 --> 00:36:23,449 Yeah. No. Young Investors Society, it's a nonprofit. 976 00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:24,969 It's entirely free, 977 00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:29,054 and we're funded by some great partners like 978 00:36:29,054 --> 00:36:31,695 Bloomberg and Goldman Sachs. So we don't charge 979 00:36:31,695 --> 00:36:34,114 anything for teachers and anything for students. 980 00:36:34,574 --> 00:36:37,135 And, really, the secret is anyone can go 981 00:36:37,135 --> 00:36:39,295 on and and watch the videos and and 982 00:36:39,295 --> 00:36:41,295 do the lessons if you wanna learn about 983 00:36:41,295 --> 00:36:43,530 the stock market or personal finance. So it's 984 00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:46,590 it's yis.org, 985 00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:49,949 younginvestorsociety.org. 986 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:52,170 And you can register as a parent or 987 00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:54,730 a teacher or a student and start start 988 00:36:54,730 --> 00:36:55,869 going through the lessons. 989 00:36:56,775 --> 00:36:59,014 I'm active on LinkedIn or, 990 00:36:59,414 --> 00:37:01,574 if anyone wants to connect, and I'm happy 991 00:37:01,574 --> 00:37:03,894 to if there's leaders of the church out 992 00:37:03,894 --> 00:37:05,594 there that want sort of, 993 00:37:06,295 --> 00:37:09,174 some materials or activities on, like, a learn 994 00:37:09,174 --> 00:37:12,089 how to invest night, I have, you know, 995 00:37:12,089 --> 00:37:14,089 I've done it hundreds of times now, and 996 00:37:14,089 --> 00:37:16,489 I have lots of good activities and, you 997 00:37:16,489 --> 00:37:18,089 know, fun things that they can do. So 998 00:37:18,089 --> 00:37:20,010 feel free to reach out. I'm happy to 999 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:22,250 help. But, again, they anyone can sign up 1000 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:24,809 for free on on y I s dot 1001 00:37:24,809 --> 00:37:25,309 org. 1002 00:37:25,824 --> 00:37:28,144 Awesome. Love it. And then if if you're 1003 00:37:28,144 --> 00:37:30,224 open to it, I would love to continue 1004 00:37:30,224 --> 00:37:30,885 this conversation, 1005 00:37:31,824 --> 00:37:33,664 after you know, we'll let this publish and 1006 00:37:33,664 --> 00:37:34,804 people kinda get a, 1007 00:37:36,224 --> 00:37:38,065 you know, sense of your your leadership to 1008 00:37:38,065 --> 00:37:39,824 some of these principles you talked about. And 1009 00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:42,380 then let's, we'll we'll we'll put the information 1010 00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:43,880 in the the show notes to go to 1011 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,960 the community. And then let's meet up again 1012 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,420 and record something again, 1013 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,880 but do it with, maybe an audience that 1014 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,639 can tune in anywhere in the world, and 1015 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,039 we can ask questions and and maybe just 1016 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,234 learn together if they're open to that. Anytime, 1017 00:37:56,295 --> 00:37:58,214 Kurt. You know you know I'm such a 1018 00:37:58,214 --> 00:38:00,795 fan of of leading saints, and I just 1019 00:38:00,855 --> 00:38:03,755 see it as as such an amazing resource 1020 00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:05,034 sharing best practices. 1021 00:38:05,815 --> 00:38:07,574 Nice. Well, it's time about time you pull 1022 00:38:07,574 --> 00:38:08,775 your weight around here, you know? So 1023 00:38:09,574 --> 00:38:10,074 Exactly. 1024 00:38:11,319 --> 00:38:12,519 So, yeah, I'm really excited to have you 1025 00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:14,359 back and even, you know, we can do 1026 00:38:14,359 --> 00:38:16,599 this multiple times or just keep keep learning. 1027 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:18,440 This is exactly the type of information we 1028 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,880 need. So last question I have for you 1029 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,960 is, you've probably heard over the years as 1030 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,819 you reflect on your time as a leader, 1031 00:38:24,074 --> 00:38:25,675 how has being a leader helped you become 1032 00:38:25,675 --> 00:38:27,534 a better follower of Jesus Christ? 1033 00:38:28,074 --> 00:38:29,114 Yeah. It's, 1034 00:38:30,155 --> 00:38:31,835 you know, as I mentioned at the beginning, 1035 00:38:31,835 --> 00:38:33,594 when I was called as bishop and I 1036 00:38:33,594 --> 00:38:36,554 think we felt this probably as, you know, 1037 00:38:36,554 --> 00:38:38,335 we got called as full time missionary. 1038 00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:39,989 All of a 1039 00:38:40,369 --> 00:38:43,570 sudden, you're walking in the savior's footsteps, and 1040 00:38:43,570 --> 00:38:46,130 you're saying words that hopefully the savior would 1041 00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:46,630 say. 1042 00:38:47,410 --> 00:38:47,730 And, 1043 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,650 you're getting a glimpse into how much he 1044 00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:54,164 loves and how merciful he is. 1045 00:38:54,724 --> 00:38:55,625 And it has 1046 00:38:56,644 --> 00:38:58,344 astonished me to the core 1047 00:38:58,724 --> 00:39:00,505 how loving and how merciful 1048 00:39:01,285 --> 00:39:02,585 Jesus Christ is. 1049 00:39:03,045 --> 00:39:05,144 I I will never be the same 1050 00:39:05,445 --> 00:39:05,945 after 1051 00:39:06,324 --> 00:39:08,105 this calling and feeling 1052 00:39:08,644 --> 00:39:09,864 how much he loves 1053 00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:11,279 and endlessly 1054 00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:13,519 forgives and runs 1055 00:39:14,059 --> 00:39:17,279 when people open that door like the prodigal 1056 00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:17,920 son, 1057 00:39:18,219 --> 00:39:20,940 and the prodigal son's father. I've I've had 1058 00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:23,359 this analogy in my head for the past 1059 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,214 for the past ten months that it's like 1060 00:39:26,214 --> 00:39:27,195 on one hand, 1061 00:39:27,574 --> 00:39:29,335 the love of God and the love of 1062 00:39:29,335 --> 00:39:32,135 Jesus Christ is like the Mississippi River. You 1063 00:39:32,135 --> 00:39:33,894 know, there's that there's another verse in doctor 1064 00:39:33,894 --> 00:39:35,974 and governance one twenty one. How will a 1065 00:39:35,974 --> 00:39:37,594 puny arm stay 1066 00:39:37,974 --> 00:39:39,434 the Mississippi River? 1067 00:39:39,909 --> 00:39:42,250 And I I've had this, you know, analogy 1068 00:39:42,309 --> 00:39:44,710 that the Mississippi River is this love of 1069 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:47,750 God. Like, this love is so great and 1070 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:48,489 it's rushing, 1071 00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:51,590 and yet I am like a common garden 1072 00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:52,090 hose, 1073 00:39:52,405 --> 00:39:54,485 you know, with kinks in it, an old 1074 00:39:54,485 --> 00:39:57,045 garden hose. And I'm trying to, like, you 1075 00:39:57,045 --> 00:39:59,765 know, push this water of the Mississippi River 1076 00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:02,105 through this old kinked garden hose. 1077 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:05,285 And I just have this symbol, like, on 1078 00:40:05,285 --> 00:40:06,265 one hand is 1079 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:08,179 the love of God rushing 1080 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,440 like a Mississippi River, and here I am 1081 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,420 like a puny 1082 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,440 garden hose in the middle. And I'm trying 1083 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,179 my best to to let people feel, 1084 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,639 you know, the water, the the living waters 1085 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:21,780 of Christ. And, 1086 00:40:22,775 --> 00:40:25,175 you know, I I will never be the 1087 00:40:25,175 --> 00:40:25,675 same 1088 00:40:26,055 --> 00:40:28,235 because I now know how much 1089 00:40:28,614 --> 00:40:31,035 Christ loves and how much he 1090 00:40:31,414 --> 00:40:34,215 cares and how much he loves giving second 1091 00:40:34,215 --> 00:40:36,920 chances and how much he believes in people. 1092 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,559 Like, we talked about before, like like, the 1093 00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:40,059 potential 1094 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,079 and his belief in that individual is so 1095 00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:44,299 high. And so, 1096 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:45,099 anyways, 1097 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:46,699 leading in the church 1098 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,639 has has let me feel Christ in a 1099 00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:51,885 way that I will never be the same. 1100 00:40:51,885 --> 00:40:54,364 And I hope that my little puny garden 1101 00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:56,625 hose can expand a little bit 1102 00:40:56,925 --> 00:40:58,385 so that I can properly 1103 00:40:58,765 --> 00:40:59,265 convey 1104 00:40:59,965 --> 00:41:02,045 the love that Christ has for my ward 1105 00:41:02,045 --> 00:41:04,599 members and and for those around me. 1106 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:18,199 And that concludes this how I lead 1107 00:41:18,525 --> 00:41:20,844 interview. I hope you enjoyed it. And, I 1108 00:41:20,844 --> 00:41:22,525 would ask you, could you take a minute 1109 00:41:22,525 --> 00:41:24,444 and drop this link in an email, on 1110 00:41:24,444 --> 00:41:26,844 social media, in a text, wherever it makes 1111 00:41:26,844 --> 00:41:28,444 the most sense, and share it with somebody 1112 00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:31,380 who could relate to this experience. And this 1113 00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:33,539 is how we develop as leaders, just hearing 1114 00:41:33,539 --> 00:41:35,139 what the other guy is doing, trying some 1115 00:41:35,139 --> 00:41:36,679 things out, testing, adjusting 1116 00:41:37,059 --> 00:41:38,179 for your area, and, 1117 00:41:38,819 --> 00:41:41,139 that's where great leadership's discovered. Right? So we 1118 00:41:41,139 --> 00:41:43,219 would love to have you, share this with, 1119 00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:46,279 somebody in this calling or a related calling, 1120 00:41:46,445 --> 00:41:48,284 and that would be great. And, also, if 1121 00:41:48,284 --> 00:41:49,164 you know somebody, 1122 00:41:49,565 --> 00:41:51,565 any type of leader who would be a 1123 00:41:51,565 --> 00:41:53,664 fantastic guest on the how I lead segment, 1124 00:41:54,125 --> 00:41:56,945 reach out to us. Go to leadingsaints.org/contact. 1125 00:41:57,085 --> 00:41:59,485 Maybe send this in individual an email letting 1126 00:41:59,485 --> 00:42:01,409 them know that you're going to be suggesting 1127 00:42:01,409 --> 00:42:03,730 their name for this interview. We'll reach out 1128 00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:06,050 to them and, see if we can line 1129 00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:08,869 them up. So, again, go to leadingsaints.org/contact, 1130 00:42:09,010 --> 00:42:10,869 and there you can submit all the information 1131 00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:12,929 and let us know. And maybe they will 1132 00:42:12,929 --> 00:42:14,690 be on a future how I lead segment 1133 00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:16,150 on the Leading Saints podcast. 1134 00:42:16,744 --> 00:42:19,545 Remember, go listen to Dan Duckworth's presentation about 1135 00:42:19,545 --> 00:42:23,324 youth mentorship by visiting leadingsaints.org/fourteen. 1136 00:42:31,779 --> 00:42:34,259 It came as a result of the position 1137 00:42:34,259 --> 00:42:37,239 of leadership which was imposed upon us 1138 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:40,440 by the God of heaven who brought forth 1139 00:42:40,659 --> 00:42:41,319 a restoration 1140 00:42:41,619 --> 00:42:43,239 of the gospel of Jesus 1141 00:42:43,554 --> 00:42:44,054 Christ. 1142 00:42:44,434 --> 00:42:45,574 And when the declaration 1143 00:42:45,875 --> 00:42:46,614 was made 1144 00:42:46,914 --> 00:42:49,795 concerning the own and only true and living 1145 00:42:49,795 --> 00:42:51,974 church upon the face of the earth, 1146 00:42:52,515 --> 00:42:55,235 we were immediately put in a position of 1147 00:42:55,235 --> 00:42:55,735 loneliness. 1148 00:42:56,170 --> 00:42:57,789 The loneliness of leadership 1149 00:42:58,650 --> 00:43:01,630 from which we cannot shrink nor run away, 1150 00:43:02,650 --> 00:43:05,130 and to which we must face up with 1151 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,670 boldness and courage 1152 00:43:07,289 --> 00:43:08,190 and ability.