1 00:00:04,319 --> 00:00:06,799 How's your teaching calling going? Have you ever 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:08,880 asked a question during the second hour and, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,039 suddenly, everyone is looking at the carpet in 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:11,539 silence? 5 00:00:11,919 --> 00:00:14,559 There are proven methods to stimulate class discussion 6 00:00:14,559 --> 00:00:17,495 that work like a charm. David Farnsworth does 7 00:00:17,495 --> 00:00:20,394 a masterful job presenting on this very subject 8 00:00:20,454 --> 00:00:22,875 in the Teaching Saints virtual library. 9 00:00:23,495 --> 00:00:25,815 What questions get people talking? How can you 10 00:00:25,815 --> 00:00:28,535 effectively listen to the answer they're saying without 11 00:00:28,535 --> 00:00:30,614 being distracted of where you wanna take the 12 00:00:30,614 --> 00:00:31,435 class next? 13 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:34,679 These are crucial principles to consider, especially in 14 00:00:34,679 --> 00:00:37,100 this time of come follow me Sunday school. 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,359 You can watch David Farnsworth's presentation by visiting 16 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:42,780 leadingsaints.org/fourteen. 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,559 There, you can gain free access for fourteen 18 00:00:45,559 --> 00:00:48,335 days to the Teaching Saints virtual library where 19 00:00:48,335 --> 00:00:50,895 you'll find hours and hours of content to 20 00:00:50,895 --> 00:00:53,314 help you be a better prepared Sunday teacher. 21 00:00:57,854 --> 00:00:59,614 Hey. If you're a newbie to Leading Saints, 22 00:00:59,614 --> 00:01:01,740 it's important that you know what is this 23 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:04,620 Leading Saints thing. Well, Leading Saints is a 24 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:07,280 nonprofit organization dedicated to helping 25 00:01:07,579 --> 00:01:10,560 Latter day Saints be better prepared to lead. 26 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:12,620 And the way we do that is through 27 00:01:12,620 --> 00:01:15,180 content creation. So we have this phenomenal podcast. 28 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:17,254 We have a newsletter. We have virtual 29 00:01:17,875 --> 00:01:18,375 conferences, 30 00:01:18,674 --> 00:01:20,995 so much more. And articles on our website. 31 00:01:20,995 --> 00:01:22,194 I mean, I could go on and on. 32 00:01:22,194 --> 00:01:22,694 Right? 33 00:01:23,075 --> 00:01:25,394 And we encourage you to, jump in, check 34 00:01:25,394 --> 00:01:27,555 out Leading Saints. Go to the search bar 35 00:01:27,555 --> 00:01:28,994 at leadingsaints.org 36 00:01:28,994 --> 00:01:30,994 and type in some topics and see what 37 00:01:30,994 --> 00:01:32,549 pops up. We're just glad you're here 38 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:33,989 to join us. 39 00:01:40,770 --> 00:01:43,010 Now if you remember, a few weeks ago, 40 00:01:43,010 --> 00:01:45,349 maybe a couple months ago, we interviewed, 41 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:46,870 Brenda Engel 42 00:01:47,224 --> 00:01:49,625 on the Leading Saints podcast, and we talked 43 00:01:49,625 --> 00:01:51,784 about some of her personal leadership experience in 44 00:01:51,784 --> 00:01:52,524 life and, 45 00:01:53,144 --> 00:01:55,884 but also she is heavily involved in humanitarian 46 00:01:56,265 --> 00:01:57,564 efforts in Africa, 47 00:01:58,104 --> 00:02:00,344 and she is part of an organization called 48 00:02:00,344 --> 00:02:01,405 Hearts and Hands. 49 00:02:01,950 --> 00:02:02,430 And, 50 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:04,909 long story short, as many of you remember 51 00:02:04,909 --> 00:02:05,890 from that episode, 52 00:02:06,189 --> 00:02:08,110 she wanted to figure out how to get 53 00:02:08,110 --> 00:02:10,370 as many people on buses in Tanzania 54 00:02:10,990 --> 00:02:12,610 and drive the seven, eight hours 55 00:02:12,990 --> 00:02:16,155 to Nairobi, Kenya during the temple open house 56 00:02:16,395 --> 00:02:18,155 and get all these people through the temple 57 00:02:18,155 --> 00:02:19,834 because, yeah, many of them, 58 00:02:20,155 --> 00:02:22,474 have funding to maybe do their own endowments 59 00:02:22,474 --> 00:02:24,555 when that time comes, but many don't even 60 00:02:24,555 --> 00:02:26,555 have a concept of of the temple or 61 00:02:26,555 --> 00:02:28,495 what it feels like or, 62 00:02:28,955 --> 00:02:32,009 you know, all those things. And so she 63 00:02:32,009 --> 00:02:34,489 thought, let's get people to the temple from 64 00:02:34,489 --> 00:02:35,709 Tanzania. And so, 65 00:02:36,489 --> 00:02:38,189 she didn't really have any fundraising 66 00:02:38,729 --> 00:02:41,150 efforts in place, but our forces 67 00:02:41,530 --> 00:02:43,289 combined, and we put a call out to 68 00:02:43,289 --> 00:02:44,750 the Leading Saints audience. 69 00:02:45,289 --> 00:02:46,110 And, wow, 70 00:02:46,824 --> 00:02:50,525 you all stepped up. It was so inspiring 71 00:02:50,585 --> 00:02:52,425 to just sit at my desk and see 72 00:02:52,425 --> 00:02:56,185 these donations come through everything from $5 10 73 00:02:56,185 --> 00:02:58,044 dollars a thousand dollars 74 00:02:58,425 --> 00:03:00,444 4 thousand dollars and 75 00:03:00,939 --> 00:03:02,479 collecting this money and getting 76 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:05,019 all of these 200 plus that I mean, 77 00:03:05,019 --> 00:03:07,099 Brenda says that, in the, in this interview, 78 00:03:07,340 --> 00:03:08,560 you're about to hear, but 79 00:03:08,939 --> 00:03:11,579 in miracle upon miracle happening, getting these people 80 00:03:11,579 --> 00:03:13,759 there, having an experience with the temple, 81 00:03:14,955 --> 00:03:17,034 it was beautiful to just be a part 82 00:03:17,034 --> 00:03:18,794 of it. And and I take no credit 83 00:03:18,794 --> 00:03:21,354 for it, but Leading Saints coming together as 84 00:03:21,354 --> 00:03:21,935 a community 85 00:03:22,555 --> 00:03:24,894 just shows you the impact we can have 86 00:03:24,955 --> 00:03:27,914 regardless of your church calling, regardless of your 87 00:03:27,914 --> 00:03:28,894 formal influence. 88 00:03:29,689 --> 00:03:32,409 We can really do some remarkable things for 89 00:03:32,409 --> 00:03:34,169 Latter day Saints across the world. So I 90 00:03:34,169 --> 00:03:36,569 wanna bring Brenda back on the podcast and 91 00:03:36,569 --> 00:03:38,009 just get an update. What was it like? 92 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,069 Tell us the stories, 93 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:40,270 the opposition, 94 00:03:40,810 --> 00:03:43,550 the holdups, and and the beautiful miracles 95 00:03:44,064 --> 00:03:46,305 throughout it all. And, she does just that. 96 00:03:46,305 --> 00:03:48,145 So thank you again. I encourage you to 97 00:03:48,145 --> 00:03:50,064 check out the good work that Brenda does 98 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:51,664 with Hearts and Hands. We'll link to her 99 00:03:51,664 --> 00:03:52,164 organization. 100 00:03:52,865 --> 00:03:55,824 And, I'm sure we'll have Brenda back on 101 00:03:55,824 --> 00:03:57,504 in the future because this is the these 102 00:03:57,504 --> 00:03:59,104 are the types of projects we could really 103 00:03:59,104 --> 00:03:59,639 have an impact 104 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:01,979 with growing the kingdom of God, 105 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,180 shepherding people to the temple, even in Nairobi, 106 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,039 Kenya. So let's jump into it. Here's my 107 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,300 follow-up interview with Brenda Engel. 108 00:04:17,084 --> 00:04:19,264 Brenda, welcome back to the Leading Saints podcast. 109 00:04:19,884 --> 00:04:22,044 Thank you. It's good to be here. Now 110 00:04:22,044 --> 00:04:23,644 it was just a few weeks ago. It 111 00:04:23,644 --> 00:04:25,884 feels like that, we first met and recorded 112 00:04:25,884 --> 00:04:27,964 and we talked about all sorts of things. 113 00:04:27,964 --> 00:04:29,805 But one of the projects that you had 114 00:04:29,805 --> 00:04:32,340 mentioned is this, this temple trip for the 115 00:04:32,340 --> 00:04:34,980 Nairobi, Kenya temple that you planned. Maybe just 116 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:36,740 give us, like if somebody didn't hear that 117 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:39,560 first episode, give us a quick review on 118 00:04:39,620 --> 00:04:41,460 what you did and what and what what 119 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:43,000 you were trying to put together. 120 00:04:43,704 --> 00:04:47,004 Okay. So we are getting this great idea, 121 00:04:47,144 --> 00:04:48,285 me, Alan Jackson, 122 00:04:49,144 --> 00:04:49,544 and, 123 00:04:50,345 --> 00:04:52,664 a couple of the missionaries in that are 124 00:04:52,664 --> 00:04:55,384 serving in Moshi, Tanzania or in they're in 125 00:04:55,384 --> 00:04:56,925 Arusha, Tangent Tanzania. 126 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:59,759 And we get this good idea just to 127 00:04:59,980 --> 00:05:02,879 these people have never seen a temple. Let's 128 00:05:02,939 --> 00:05:04,540 get together and take some of them there, 129 00:05:04,540 --> 00:05:05,819 and maybe they wanna go back and get 130 00:05:05,819 --> 00:05:06,480 their endowments. 131 00:05:06,939 --> 00:05:08,699 And these boys will go and see it 132 00:05:08,699 --> 00:05:10,460 and wanna go on missions, and and we 133 00:05:10,460 --> 00:05:11,360 can get some 134 00:05:12,024 --> 00:05:13,404 piece of leadership going. 135 00:05:13,865 --> 00:05:15,245 So great idea. We're thinking 136 00:05:15,704 --> 00:05:18,685 25, 50 people. That was my original thing. 137 00:05:18,824 --> 00:05:21,545 50 people. Us and go. Right? Yeah. Yeah. 138 00:05:21,545 --> 00:05:24,204 Fill it up and go. And it started 139 00:05:24,770 --> 00:05:28,230 multiplying, multiplying, multiplying, and so then Leading Saints, 140 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:31,410 thank goodness, reached out to us and said, 141 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:32,770 hey. Let's do a podcast and see if 142 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:34,050 we can get you some funds because we 143 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:35,029 had, like, nothing. 144 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:38,145 And people and and people just coming in. 145 00:05:38,145 --> 00:05:40,865 So the excitement just went crazy and we're 146 00:05:40,865 --> 00:05:42,004 like, oh my goodness. 147 00:05:42,625 --> 00:05:45,524 And so we raised a ton of money 148 00:05:45,904 --> 00:05:46,404 on 149 00:05:47,105 --> 00:05:49,264 here on Leaving Saints podcast within, like, a 150 00:05:49,264 --> 00:05:51,764 week. Like, I can't even believe that. Like, 151 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:54,319 I've been trying to do humanitarian forever, and 152 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:56,079 I've never seen anything like it. So I'm 153 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:56,819 in Tanzania 154 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,079 telling the people about it, and I'm watching 155 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:03,360 the the Leading Saints just, like, more and 156 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,100 more people 157 00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:04,979 just 158 00:06:05,785 --> 00:06:07,564 giving their Yeah. Their 159 00:06:08,824 --> 00:06:11,144 points or bits, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It was 160 00:06:11,144 --> 00:06:11,805 really cool. 161 00:06:12,264 --> 00:06:13,865 It was it was really neat to see 162 00:06:13,865 --> 00:06:15,784 that. And so then I'm like, I'm worried 163 00:06:15,784 --> 00:06:17,224 we're gonna get too much. So I'm like, 164 00:06:17,224 --> 00:06:19,560 okay. Let's cut this off because I don't 165 00:06:19,699 --> 00:06:21,860 want extra because I don't want extra. I 166 00:06:21,860 --> 00:06:23,959 just want what we need. Yeah. And 167 00:06:24,339 --> 00:06:24,920 and then 168 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:27,480 yes. And then it rolls from there. So, 169 00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:31,379 people kept coming and coming to the last 170 00:06:31,379 --> 00:06:32,600 minute, to the 171 00:06:33,014 --> 00:06:33,514 last 172 00:06:34,055 --> 00:06:36,134 hour and we we ended up with a 173 00:06:36,134 --> 00:06:37,894 lot of people going. So, okay, that's the 174 00:06:37,894 --> 00:06:41,995 that's the preliminary. Our greatest intentions that Yeah. 175 00:06:42,454 --> 00:06:44,694 Took off and It turned out that, it 176 00:06:44,694 --> 00:06:45,814 was good that we got a little bit 177 00:06:45,814 --> 00:06:47,639 more because you got more and more requests 178 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:49,560 coming in for people to come on the 179 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,879 buses. Right? And I think it worked out 180 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:53,560 that we it was about a hundred dollars 181 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,639 for every person that came, and that included 182 00:06:55,639 --> 00:06:57,319 their lodging and their meals and all that. 183 00:06:57,319 --> 00:06:59,639 Right? Yes. Yes. So we we did pretty 184 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:00,139 good. 185 00:07:00,814 --> 00:07:02,654 You know, there was extra expenses that showed 186 00:07:02,654 --> 00:07:04,014 up like at the border. We had to 187 00:07:04,014 --> 00:07:05,615 buy them off to get people through that 188 00:07:05,615 --> 00:07:08,274 didn't have their documents. Oh, no. 189 00:07:09,615 --> 00:07:12,415 It it it became a very good, yes, 190 00:07:12,415 --> 00:07:13,314 the money was 191 00:07:13,855 --> 00:07:14,355 whole. 192 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Just it was really just a miracle. Like, 193 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,080 I've never seen anything like that happen. Like 194 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,600 I said, I've done lots of humanitarian. I've 195 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,780 never seen something like that happen and 196 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:24,480 it I I just wish all the people 197 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,480 that donated could just see the face of 198 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,540 one of these people 199 00:07:28,214 --> 00:07:31,995 that went smiles. Just smiles and gratitude. 200 00:07:32,375 --> 00:07:34,314 Like, that's all we got from them. 201 00:07:35,014 --> 00:07:37,175 And we have a, a bubble on our 202 00:07:37,175 --> 00:07:38,714 Instagram page because you 203 00:07:39,095 --> 00:07:40,935 took over our account a few days there 204 00:07:40,935 --> 00:07:42,615 as this was happening and sort of gave 205 00:07:42,615 --> 00:07:44,433 us some live updates there. And then you'll 206 00:07:44,433 --> 00:07:46,360 also send me a bunch of pictures that 207 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,528 we'll include with this episode of, you know, 208 00:07:48,528 --> 00:07:50,455 of some of those moments you captured, and 209 00:07:50,455 --> 00:07:52,382 and it's just so inspiring. And and, yeah, 210 00:07:52,382 --> 00:07:54,549 I really I mean, this episode, I I 211 00:07:54,549 --> 00:07:56,475 really wanted to be something that the Leading 212 00:07:56,475 --> 00:07:59,435 Saints audience, especially those who contributed, feels sort 213 00:07:59,435 --> 00:08:01,435 of that ownership of, like, we did something 214 00:08:01,435 --> 00:08:03,214 special here. And we got, 215 00:08:03,915 --> 00:08:07,035 you know, both members and nonmembers who maybe 216 00:08:07,035 --> 00:08:08,875 had never had an experience with the temple. 217 00:08:08,875 --> 00:08:10,555 We got them a temple experience. They went 218 00:08:10,555 --> 00:08:11,519 through the open house, 219 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:14,560 and it was it was awesome. And and 220 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,800 we're stimulating the work, you know, in Africa 221 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,439 through this effort. So really cool stuff. That's 222 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:21,379 right. I I think that 223 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:24,319 just the name of your podcast, Leading Saints, 224 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:25,220 that was what 225 00:08:25,664 --> 00:08:28,144 inspired me to want to take people is 226 00:08:28,144 --> 00:08:30,224 as when I go into these little branches 227 00:08:30,224 --> 00:08:32,384 and you see the lack of leadership that 228 00:08:32,384 --> 00:08:34,384 they have, they just need leadership. And it's 229 00:08:34,384 --> 00:08:34,884 like, 230 00:08:36,225 --> 00:08:37,205 that that 231 00:08:37,985 --> 00:08:40,725 what happened on this trip will change 232 00:08:41,610 --> 00:08:43,309 the the branches and 233 00:08:43,850 --> 00:08:47,230 the the eventually stakes in Tanzania because, 234 00:08:47,929 --> 00:08:49,289 you know, I was I was on a 235 00:08:49,289 --> 00:08:51,789 bus. I tried to hop different buses and 236 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:54,089 I just saw a whole bunch of pre 237 00:08:54,089 --> 00:08:55,950 staged boys on there. And 238 00:08:57,394 --> 00:08:59,074 it's like, wow. If they can go to 239 00:08:59,074 --> 00:09:01,074 temple and fill that, get on a mission 240 00:09:01,074 --> 00:09:03,235 and come back, they'll they'll lead the saints 241 00:09:03,235 --> 00:09:05,794 here. They will and the Lord needs them. 242 00:09:05,794 --> 00:09:08,054 And so that was really the 243 00:09:08,434 --> 00:09:11,814 my root desire was to help build stronger, 244 00:09:13,139 --> 00:09:15,799 men and leaders, women, families, 245 00:09:17,059 --> 00:09:18,740 so that they can just flourish and they 246 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:22,440 will. Like, they they will. Yeah. Really cool. 247 00:09:22,580 --> 00:09:24,419 And so, I mean, there's always you know, 248 00:09:24,419 --> 00:09:26,419 with these trips, there's always hiccups along the 249 00:09:26,419 --> 00:09:27,159 way. But 250 00:09:27,475 --> 00:09:29,634 as far as, you kinda had one central 251 00:09:29,634 --> 00:09:32,054 gathering place in Tanzania, and then 252 00:09:32,514 --> 00:09:34,595 the the buses go, like, as a caravan 253 00:09:34,595 --> 00:09:35,394 type of thing? Or 254 00:09:36,355 --> 00:09:38,195 Okay. So let me just paint this picture. 255 00:09:38,195 --> 00:09:40,434 I fly in Monday night. We're leaving Tuesday 256 00:09:40,434 --> 00:09:43,089 morning. Wake up is pouring rain, pouring, pouring 257 00:09:43,089 --> 00:09:44,690 into them. A lot of them, it's like 258 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:47,009 a bad omen that maybe things aren't gonna 259 00:09:47,009 --> 00:09:50,209 go well. So we are praying, praying. I 260 00:09:50,209 --> 00:09:51,970 send out to all my friends, please pray 261 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:53,190 this rain will stop. 262 00:09:53,649 --> 00:09:55,889 But we're at three locations. So I'm in 263 00:09:55,889 --> 00:09:57,110 charge of seven buses 264 00:09:58,425 --> 00:10:01,065 at one of the branches in Arusha and 265 00:10:01,065 --> 00:10:03,004 then the senior couple, 266 00:10:03,465 --> 00:10:05,945 the Lukes, who are from Saint George and 267 00:10:05,945 --> 00:10:08,184 just Lifesavers, they were at another branch with 268 00:10:08,184 --> 00:10:10,345 a few buses and then we had Alan 269 00:10:10,345 --> 00:10:11,404 and Tish in 270 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Moshi with three buses. So 13 buses total 271 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:15,620 now, 272 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,399 and we we had people sign up at 273 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:19,779 the last minute. We 274 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,000 we we had a guy staying up all 275 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,279 night trying to get they had to have 276 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:24,960 passports and yellow fever cards, and we had 277 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,605 to help pay for all of those. So 278 00:10:26,605 --> 00:10:28,205 that's where the funds went to. A lot 279 00:10:28,205 --> 00:10:29,585 of it went to that. And 280 00:10:30,125 --> 00:10:31,904 so he comes in with just stacks 281 00:10:32,365 --> 00:10:34,285 of all these documents. We've got it now. 282 00:10:34,285 --> 00:10:35,725 Get them to the people and get on 283 00:10:35,725 --> 00:10:37,725 the bus. It's pouring rain. Well, right before 284 00:10:37,725 --> 00:10:39,245 we had to get on on the bus, 285 00:10:39,245 --> 00:10:41,644 the rain did stop. And I'm down at 286 00:10:41,644 --> 00:10:43,500 a big tent a big tent is where 287 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:45,820 the church meets down in at this Arusha 288 00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:46,320 branch, 289 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:48,460 and the buses are up at the top 290 00:10:48,460 --> 00:10:51,120 of this washed out road way up there. 291 00:10:51,580 --> 00:10:52,399 And so, 292 00:10:53,659 --> 00:10:56,320 we've got we're trying to organize people and 293 00:10:56,815 --> 00:10:59,375 get and I'm sending go to 25 up 294 00:10:59,375 --> 00:11:01,055 there. Well, the best drivers aren't there. They're 295 00:11:01,055 --> 00:11:02,415 off having a drink somewhere. The bus is 296 00:11:02,415 --> 00:11:04,495 locked. So all of our organization got messed 297 00:11:04,495 --> 00:11:06,195 up and people went everywhere and whatever. 298 00:11:06,495 --> 00:11:09,475 And then I end up loading these buses, 299 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:12,490 and there's another 50 people down there. I 300 00:11:12,490 --> 00:11:14,090 don't know where they came from. They don't 301 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:14,750 have their 302 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:15,790 documents. 303 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:17,950 I don't know what to do with them. 304 00:11:18,330 --> 00:11:20,330 My phone isn't working. I can't get a 305 00:11:20,330 --> 00:11:21,549 hold of anybody else. 306 00:11:21,850 --> 00:11:22,350 And 307 00:11:22,730 --> 00:11:25,884 just people everywhere. Happy people. Like, I don't 308 00:11:25,884 --> 00:11:27,325 care if it's raining. They were coming to 309 00:11:27,325 --> 00:11:29,245 the temple. They didn't care. They just showed 310 00:11:29,245 --> 00:11:31,084 up on motorcycles and buses. They had to 311 00:11:31,084 --> 00:11:32,365 pay to get there and some of them 312 00:11:32,365 --> 00:11:34,365 came from really long ways away to get 313 00:11:34,365 --> 00:11:35,024 to this. 314 00:11:35,325 --> 00:11:37,504 And so it was just, like, 315 00:11:38,850 --> 00:11:41,250 chaos for me. And my heart was chaos. 316 00:11:41,250 --> 00:11:42,850 How do we get all these documents? People 317 00:11:42,850 --> 00:11:44,370 get them on and make sure that so 318 00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:46,370 this one little mom sitting there and she 319 00:11:46,370 --> 00:11:48,529 she brings somebody over, can't speak their language, 320 00:11:48,529 --> 00:11:50,789 it's another hard thing. And the missionaries, 321 00:11:51,169 --> 00:11:52,789 oh my goodness. Those missionaries 322 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:53,830 were 323 00:11:54,514 --> 00:11:56,514 absolutely incredible. Any of you moms out there 324 00:11:56,514 --> 00:11:58,215 that your missionaries are in Tanzania, 325 00:11:58,835 --> 00:11:59,335 incredible 326 00:11:59,875 --> 00:12:00,375 incredible. 327 00:12:00,835 --> 00:12:02,674 They couldn't go to the temple and they 328 00:12:02,674 --> 00:12:04,514 were so sad that they were helping us 329 00:12:04,514 --> 00:12:06,835 do all this. So they're translating and this 330 00:12:06,835 --> 00:12:09,154 mom has documents for her children but not 331 00:12:09,154 --> 00:12:09,815 the baby. 332 00:12:10,169 --> 00:12:12,250 Okay. I can't take you and leave you 333 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:14,570 at customs or your baby at customs. You'll 334 00:12:14,570 --> 00:12:16,250 have no way home, so you're not gonna 335 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:17,950 be able to go. And it's just like, 336 00:12:18,169 --> 00:12:20,649 you see these people, like, they want to 337 00:12:20,649 --> 00:12:21,629 go to the temple. 338 00:12:22,169 --> 00:12:24,649 So I'm just like, I'm sorry. Like, I 339 00:12:24,649 --> 00:12:26,035 can't I I don't know what to do 340 00:12:26,035 --> 00:12:27,154 with you because I can't leave you the 341 00:12:27,154 --> 00:12:28,615 customs. Okay. Then 342 00:12:28,995 --> 00:12:30,754 we I get up there on the buses 343 00:12:30,754 --> 00:12:31,955 and I look around. I see the mom 344 00:12:31,955 --> 00:12:33,175 sitting there with her kid. 345 00:12:33,634 --> 00:12:35,154 I'm like, oh, I gotta tell her she 346 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:37,315 has to get off the bus. I'm just 347 00:12:37,315 --> 00:12:39,659 praying and right right then, someone came up, 348 00:12:39,659 --> 00:12:41,039 we found her papers. 349 00:12:41,659 --> 00:12:44,000 Oh, wow. So that was one little miracle. 350 00:12:44,220 --> 00:12:45,199 So many miracles. 351 00:12:45,659 --> 00:12:46,159 Like, 352 00:12:47,259 --> 00:12:49,419 really, it was so it got so big 353 00:12:49,419 --> 00:12:51,019 and I had all these people left down 354 00:12:51,019 --> 00:12:53,279 there that I didn't have bus for. 355 00:12:54,375 --> 00:12:56,375 So Alan from Moshe came and picked up 356 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:58,074 the ones we could. We get to 357 00:12:58,454 --> 00:12:58,954 customs, 358 00:13:00,054 --> 00:13:01,574 it's like five hours away or something. I 359 00:13:01,574 --> 00:13:03,034 can't remember. And 360 00:13:03,414 --> 00:13:05,574 we're talking about three windows they have to 361 00:13:05,574 --> 00:13:07,950 go through with three people working, whatever, and 362 00:13:07,950 --> 00:13:10,990 the line is down out the sidewalk clear 363 00:13:10,990 --> 00:13:11,809 out in 364 00:13:12,110 --> 00:13:13,970 wherever. There's so many people. 365 00:13:14,429 --> 00:13:16,129 Babies, children, old people. 366 00:13:17,389 --> 00:13:19,790 We we had some youth that came with 367 00:13:19,790 --> 00:13:22,029 their neighbors who didn't come with their parents. 368 00:13:22,029 --> 00:13:23,845 It's like, oh, who knew? 369 00:13:25,825 --> 00:13:28,545 Wow. And and these happy people. Okay? Like, 370 00:13:28,545 --> 00:13:30,404 my heart's in in a little, 371 00:13:32,225 --> 00:13:34,785 it's it's traumatized as you know because I 372 00:13:34,785 --> 00:13:35,825 mean, how are we gonna get all these 373 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:37,184 people there? How are we gonna not lose 374 00:13:37,184 --> 00:13:39,389 people? How I can't talk to the bus 375 00:13:39,389 --> 00:13:41,790 drivers. I can't communicate with them. So it 376 00:13:41,790 --> 00:13:44,350 it got so big, so fast, and and 377 00:13:44,350 --> 00:13:45,629 like I said, we had a hundred people 378 00:13:45,629 --> 00:13:47,550 right before we left. It's another extra 50 379 00:13:47,550 --> 00:13:48,610 people showed up. 380 00:13:49,470 --> 00:13:51,865 We we've had so many so many people. 381 00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:53,625 You know, I never heard a baby cry. 382 00:13:53,625 --> 00:13:55,485 I never saw a child running wild. 383 00:13:55,865 --> 00:13:58,504 I never heard one complaint. I never heard 384 00:13:58,504 --> 00:13:59,485 anybody say, 385 00:14:00,264 --> 00:14:01,625 why do we have to send the bus 386 00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:03,225 for two hours waiting for people to get 387 00:14:03,225 --> 00:14:05,009 to the line? Why didn't you organize this 388 00:14:05,009 --> 00:14:07,410 better? Why nothing. They're just like, thank you. 389 00:14:07,410 --> 00:14:09,889 Thank you. Thank you. Tell the people back 390 00:14:09,889 --> 00:14:11,990 home, thank you for helping us come. 391 00:14:12,370 --> 00:14:14,149 And that's all I got. And 392 00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:16,690 oh my goodness. So then we get through 393 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:20,129 customs. We head into Nairobi, huge city, lots 394 00:14:20,129 --> 00:14:22,325 of traffic, fixes it a few more hours 395 00:14:22,325 --> 00:14:24,884 to get there. We rented out two entire 396 00:14:24,884 --> 00:14:25,384 hotels. 397 00:14:26,164 --> 00:14:28,085 We only needed two hotels, but when we 398 00:14:28,085 --> 00:14:30,085 got there, we were they we had one 399 00:14:30,085 --> 00:14:32,345 on standby. We had to use it. 400 00:14:32,644 --> 00:14:34,240 I mean, people we we okay. So we're 401 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,399 making peanut butter sandwiches to feed them. Hundreds 402 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:38,559 and hundreds and hundreds of sandwiches because what 403 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:39,759 else am I gonna do to feed these 404 00:14:39,759 --> 00:14:42,000 people? We feed them. They're so grateful. Whatever 405 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,740 they go into their rooms and dissipate quietly, 406 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,039 and then we're cleaning up and another bus 407 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:49,295 pulls in. Like, who knew we were missing 408 00:14:49,295 --> 00:14:51,475 a bus? I didn't know. Didn't they count? 409 00:14:51,695 --> 00:14:53,055 Like, how do we know we only had 410 00:14:53,055 --> 00:14:54,654 12 buses that we just said? There are 411 00:14:54,654 --> 00:14:56,735 so many people and so many buses. Who 412 00:14:56,735 --> 00:14:58,175 knew? I don't know where these people were. 413 00:14:58,175 --> 00:14:59,375 I still don't know where they were. I 414 00:14:59,375 --> 00:15:00,335 don't know if they got lost or they 415 00:15:00,335 --> 00:15:01,695 have to stop for potty breaks. I have 416 00:15:01,695 --> 00:15:02,975 no idea, but we got all the food 417 00:15:02,975 --> 00:15:05,720 out. The Lord blessed the food. It stretched. 418 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,500 We fed tons more sandwiches. 419 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:09,879 They had to have 40 people on that 420 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:12,699 bus which should only had 25. And so, 421 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,539 anyways, we fell 422 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,399 off and then they go to sleep. We 423 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:18,860 crash the next morning. 424 00:15:19,164 --> 00:15:20,225 Sweetest thing ever. 425 00:15:20,524 --> 00:15:22,205 We wake up in this beautiful hotel that 426 00:15:22,205 --> 00:15:24,205 was so kind and good and gave us 427 00:15:24,205 --> 00:15:26,605 the best prices and whatever and they just 428 00:15:26,605 --> 00:15:27,424 have this giant 429 00:15:28,044 --> 00:15:30,205 giant buffet of food. Okay. So imagine people 430 00:15:30,205 --> 00:15:32,125 that have a lot of people never left 431 00:15:32,125 --> 00:15:33,264 their hometown before 432 00:15:33,779 --> 00:15:36,579 and they've never seen anything like this. And 433 00:15:36,579 --> 00:15:39,079 you just got pay plates piled high 434 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:41,779 of just food and they're happy, but there's 435 00:15:41,779 --> 00:15:43,320 this air of excitement. 436 00:15:44,179 --> 00:15:46,179 Smiles and excitement. They know they're going to 437 00:15:46,179 --> 00:15:47,824 temple. So we're like, okay. We're gonna have 438 00:15:47,824 --> 00:15:49,504 to stagger these buses. And I keep telling 439 00:15:49,504 --> 00:15:51,584 the church department, hey. We got more people 440 00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:54,084 coming on buses. And they're like, oh, okay. 441 00:15:54,384 --> 00:15:54,544 And, 442 00:15:55,184 --> 00:15:57,105 you're gonna stagger them so we don't overwhelm 443 00:15:57,105 --> 00:15:59,024 them. And and so I tell people, you 444 00:15:59,024 --> 00:16:00,225 know, just hang out for a while because 445 00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:01,620 it might be an hour or a half 446 00:16:01,620 --> 00:16:03,139 or something before you even get to get 447 00:16:03,139 --> 00:16:04,980 on buses. Oh, no. No. We're getting on 448 00:16:04,980 --> 00:16:06,500 the bus right now. We're sitting there. We're 449 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:08,200 not missing this opportunity. 450 00:16:08,740 --> 00:16:10,980 They finished up quick, got on the buses, 451 00:16:10,980 --> 00:16:12,580 and just set for I don't even know 452 00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:14,019 how long the last bus had to sit 453 00:16:14,019 --> 00:16:15,059 there. I have no idea because I had 454 00:16:15,059 --> 00:16:15,705 to go. 455 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:18,264 And so we get in, we go. You 456 00:16:18,264 --> 00:16:20,825 can't find the temple on GPS just in 457 00:16:20,825 --> 00:16:22,524 case any of you go visit, like, 458 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:24,825 get them take a map or something because 459 00:16:24,825 --> 00:16:26,585 it sent people to hotel room. I don't 460 00:16:26,585 --> 00:16:28,759 know. It it just didn't so we have 461 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:30,539 buses all trying to go to the hotel. 462 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,240 We get there and it's just heaven. We 463 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,779 get there and it's raining again 464 00:16:35,159 --> 00:16:35,480 and, 465 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,679 it stops when our buses get there and 466 00:16:38,679 --> 00:16:41,245 just the most beautiful day ever. This people 467 00:16:41,245 --> 00:16:43,164 get off and off and off. They're organized. 468 00:16:43,164 --> 00:16:44,464 They brought in more people. 469 00:16:46,284 --> 00:16:46,784 Just 470 00:16:47,324 --> 00:16:47,824 anyway, 471 00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:51,105 once we stepped on that that temple ground, 472 00:16:51,564 --> 00:16:53,804 like, I know it's not even dedicated yet, 473 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:55,345 but the piece of it just 474 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:57,919 filled our hearts and souls, and 475 00:16:58,539 --> 00:17:01,340 and we just did that for several hours. 476 00:17:01,340 --> 00:17:03,259 So, anyway, go ahead and ask me questions. 477 00:17:03,259 --> 00:17:03,740 So what 478 00:17:04,859 --> 00:17:07,119 maybe, I don't know what sort of demographic 479 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:10,144 markers are, like, membership information you have, but 480 00:17:10,144 --> 00:17:11,505 as far as like so it was 12 481 00:17:11,505 --> 00:17:13,445 buses total that all went? 482 00:17:13,984 --> 00:17:16,484 Thirteen thirteen buses total. Okay. 483 00:17:17,184 --> 00:17:19,265 13. Yeah. We had 12 and then one 484 00:17:19,265 --> 00:17:20,799 that showed up. Yeah. And then the any 485 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:22,559 idea as far as who were members or 486 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:24,480 how long they've been members or anything like 487 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:24,980 that? 488 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 I I would say most of these people 489 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,920 on here were members. We did have we 490 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,519 did have a lot of investigators that the 491 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:33,279 missionaries had round up and sent, so we 492 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:35,595 have no idea who or Mhmm. What. We 493 00:17:35,595 --> 00:17:37,515 don't know. But there were a lot of 494 00:17:37,515 --> 00:17:38,015 investigators, 495 00:17:38,795 --> 00:17:41,055 mostly members. I would say probably, 496 00:17:42,154 --> 00:17:45,195 you know, 80% members on this group, but 497 00:17:45,195 --> 00:17:47,434 we had two other buses join us, which 498 00:17:47,434 --> 00:17:49,595 was Molly who I've talked about. Molly who 499 00:17:49,595 --> 00:17:49,980 was, 500 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:52,319 you know, just did the the 501 00:17:53,179 --> 00:17:56,859 choir Tabernacle Choir, Christmas concert for the church, 502 00:17:56,859 --> 00:17:57,359 and, 503 00:17:58,140 --> 00:17:59,980 the area authority had gone out to visit 504 00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:03,279 him. And he area authority at Elder Matumbo 505 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:05,625 showed up to take him through a VIP 506 00:18:05,625 --> 00:18:07,325 tour. So he came with all of his 507 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:09,464 prior, which is another 50, and none of 508 00:18:09,464 --> 00:18:10,365 them are members. 509 00:18:10,904 --> 00:18:12,585 And then we had, 510 00:18:12,984 --> 00:18:14,924 an orphanage I've been working with, 511 00:18:16,024 --> 00:18:16,845 the saddest 512 00:18:17,549 --> 00:18:19,630 sweetest group of kids that just got wiped 513 00:18:19,630 --> 00:18:22,190 out in a flood and they're homeless, but 514 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:24,990 the little mama that's 24 that's raising all 515 00:18:24,990 --> 00:18:27,069 of them by herself because the other helpers 516 00:18:27,069 --> 00:18:28,289 just died this year. 517 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:32,184 She's LDS. She said, please come back and 518 00:18:32,184 --> 00:18:33,945 take me to get my endowment. But she's 519 00:18:33,945 --> 00:18:35,464 trying to raise these kids in the gospel, 520 00:18:35,464 --> 00:18:37,345 but she doesn't have any technology. She doesn't 521 00:18:37,345 --> 00:18:38,924 have any books. She doesn't have 522 00:18:39,305 --> 00:18:41,144 money to drive to church so that she 523 00:18:41,144 --> 00:18:42,345 can get them to church so they can 524 00:18:42,345 --> 00:18:44,669 get baptized. One little girl has a deep 525 00:18:44,669 --> 00:18:46,669 infection in her leg and it's going into 526 00:18:46,669 --> 00:18:47,889 her bone and she's 527 00:18:48,509 --> 00:18:51,389 well, Ashley, she's like, I just wanna be 528 00:18:51,389 --> 00:18:53,389 baptized. That's my dream. But because I have 529 00:18:53,389 --> 00:18:55,470 this infection, I'm not worthy. Because they believe 530 00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:57,230 that if they have anything wrong with them 531 00:18:57,230 --> 00:18:59,795 or that it's it's more, you know, Satan 532 00:18:59,795 --> 00:19:01,875 that's doing it, so they're not really worthy. 533 00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:03,394 And so she came to the temple. So 534 00:19:03,394 --> 00:19:04,214 we had this 535 00:19:04,515 --> 00:19:07,474 this mama, 24 year old, adorable Vanessa that 536 00:19:07,474 --> 00:19:08,994 I love so much. She shows up. We 537 00:19:08,994 --> 00:19:11,609 sent a bus to get her and some 538 00:19:11,609 --> 00:19:11,849 of her 539 00:19:13,289 --> 00:19:15,630 98 of them got off the bus. 540 00:19:15,930 --> 00:19:18,170 Like Wow. I'm calling the person doing the 541 00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:20,170 food. Hey. Add add more. I did that, 542 00:19:20,170 --> 00:19:20,990 like, every 543 00:19:21,369 --> 00:19:23,744 day. Add more. We have, like, 544 00:19:24,224 --> 00:19:26,404 twice as many orphans. Anyway, it's 545 00:19:27,345 --> 00:19:29,744 anyway, they got these kids, and these kids 546 00:19:29,744 --> 00:19:31,105 all want to be a member of the 547 00:19:31,105 --> 00:19:32,464 church, but then none of them are. None 548 00:19:32,464 --> 00:19:33,924 of them have been able to get baptized. 549 00:19:34,305 --> 00:19:34,805 So 550 00:19:35,424 --> 00:19:37,045 so that's our 15 buses. 551 00:19:37,424 --> 00:19:39,125 Wow. And five hundred 552 00:19:40,279 --> 00:19:42,619 five hundred and thirty seven people, we think. 553 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:43,579 Wow. 554 00:19:44,039 --> 00:19:46,299 That is awesome. And and these are, 555 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,700 everything from, you know, 556 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:53,099 everyday going members to orphans to to nonmembers 557 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:55,835 and and everything in between. So that's cool. 558 00:19:56,375 --> 00:19:57,974 Lots of art. Well, actually, we had our 559 00:19:57,974 --> 00:19:59,815 drill team come that they aren't members, and 560 00:19:59,815 --> 00:20:01,494 they brought some of their families with them 561 00:20:01,494 --> 00:20:02,855 that have been drilling our wells. So we 562 00:20:02,855 --> 00:20:05,335 had a lot of lot of, people who 563 00:20:05,335 --> 00:20:07,494 are That's cool. Very curious about the church. 564 00:20:07,494 --> 00:20:08,855 I had one man stop me when I 565 00:20:08,934 --> 00:20:10,730 when I was in Moshe keep telling them 566 00:20:10,730 --> 00:20:12,876 what we're gonna do a few months ago 567 00:20:12,876 --> 00:20:15,021 and he said, I have two neighbors that 568 00:20:15,021 --> 00:20:17,166 are very interested in the church. Would you 569 00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:19,311 mind if they come? I'm like, yes. I 570 00:20:19,311 --> 00:20:21,457 would love for them to come. Absolutely bring 571 00:20:21,457 --> 00:20:23,602 them, you know. So so we don't we 572 00:20:23,602 --> 00:20:25,414 don't know the racial. Yeah. 573 00:20:26,595 --> 00:20:28,695 Yeah. Well, I'm sure there'll be some, baptismal, 574 00:20:29,634 --> 00:20:32,035 baptisms happening from it. So that's awesome. I 575 00:20:32,035 --> 00:20:34,434 already just got just got a a call 576 00:20:34,434 --> 00:20:36,994 from some kid in the Moshi area that 577 00:20:37,075 --> 00:20:38,195 I don't know if he's on the trip 578 00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:39,670 or his sister was, but he's like, like, 579 00:20:39,670 --> 00:20:41,109 I want the missionaries to come and I 580 00:20:41,109 --> 00:20:42,710 wanted to serve a mission. I wanna belong 581 00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:44,630 to this church. So I'm like, okay. That's 582 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:46,150 cool. So, yeah, we we we have a 583 00:20:46,150 --> 00:20:48,309 lot a lot of good feedback coming in. 584 00:20:48,309 --> 00:20:48,809 Nice. 585 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:49,589 And then, 586 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:52,875 so on the temple grounds, I mean, everybody 587 00:20:52,875 --> 00:20:54,955 kinda went went at once and you just 588 00:20:54,955 --> 00:20:56,555 sorta get them through the temple as soon 589 00:20:56,555 --> 00:20:58,474 as as soon as, you know, get them 590 00:20:58,474 --> 00:21:00,234 in line. We've all stood in lines at 591 00:21:00,234 --> 00:21:02,335 temple open houses. Right? So Yeah. 592 00:21:02,955 --> 00:21:04,634 And then anything else as far as being 593 00:21:04,634 --> 00:21:06,974 at the temple that any other stories are? 594 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:09,750 They well, they have a chapel that they 595 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:11,990 haven't opened to public as beautiful chapel on 596 00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:14,309 the temple grounds, and so they got to 597 00:21:14,309 --> 00:21:15,589 go in there and sit in the rooms. 598 00:21:15,589 --> 00:21:17,269 We took up all that. They were standing. 599 00:21:17,269 --> 00:21:19,130 There's so many people. Like, 600 00:21:19,525 --> 00:21:21,684 it it just it was but they got 601 00:21:21,684 --> 00:21:23,125 to watch the video, you know, and go 602 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:23,625 through. 603 00:21:24,005 --> 00:21:26,164 And, no. The temple grounds are beautiful. Big 604 00:21:26,164 --> 00:21:28,484 statue of Christ that they just loved. And 605 00:21:28,484 --> 00:21:30,164 you have to realize these people come from 606 00:21:30,164 --> 00:21:33,089 a lot of maybe dirt floors and their 607 00:21:33,089 --> 00:21:35,109 homes are extremely humble. 608 00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:35,910 And 609 00:21:36,369 --> 00:21:36,869 to 610 00:21:37,330 --> 00:21:39,410 to be even on the ground, it's so 611 00:21:39,410 --> 00:21:41,750 beautiful. It's just simply beautiful. 612 00:21:42,130 --> 00:21:44,049 And to then to and to go into 613 00:21:44,049 --> 00:21:45,830 the temple, just incredible. 614 00:21:46,505 --> 00:21:47,164 That's cool. 615 00:21:47,705 --> 00:21:49,384 And so it sounds like you got there 616 00:21:49,384 --> 00:21:51,225 the night, but so you'd it's about a 617 00:21:51,225 --> 00:21:52,765 two hour drive on the bus? 618 00:21:54,184 --> 00:21:56,904 So we did at least seven or eight 619 00:21:56,904 --> 00:21:59,225 hours altogether from when we left to get 620 00:21:59,225 --> 00:22:01,170 to the hotel. Yeah. It was a long 621 00:22:01,730 --> 00:22:03,809 long day. Bus ride. And then you went 622 00:22:03,809 --> 00:22:05,570 to the temple and I'm sorry. You went 623 00:22:05,570 --> 00:22:07,809 to the hotel and then the next day, 624 00:22:07,809 --> 00:22:09,330 you woke up and went to the temple. 625 00:22:09,330 --> 00:22:10,950 Is that Then that was 626 00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:13,250 supposed to be like a thirty minute ride, 627 00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:13,750 but 628 00:22:14,505 --> 00:22:16,424 we don't have so long to be able 629 00:22:16,424 --> 00:22:17,565 to get there. 630 00:22:18,345 --> 00:22:19,085 That's funny. 631 00:22:20,025 --> 00:22:21,945 And then after you went to the temples, 632 00:22:21,945 --> 00:22:23,724 then the the drive home happened? 633 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:26,424 Yes. So then we've got to feed all 634 00:22:26,424 --> 00:22:28,619 these people because now it's like we're a 635 00:22:28,619 --> 00:22:30,299 couple hours late because we needed to get 636 00:22:30,299 --> 00:22:32,299 them back before dark. It's very dangerous for 637 00:22:32,299 --> 00:22:33,420 them to go home in the dark, but 638 00:22:33,420 --> 00:22:35,119 we've already passed that. And, 639 00:22:36,380 --> 00:22:36,880 we, 640 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:39,980 then we are gonna go feed them. So 641 00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:42,140 we get everybody. So first, we take the 642 00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:43,599 VIP tour with elementary 643 00:22:43,954 --> 00:22:45,335 with Molly through the temple 644 00:22:45,795 --> 00:22:48,755 and present him with they present him with 645 00:22:48,755 --> 00:22:51,394 his genealogy and all. It's just incredible. He 646 00:22:51,555 --> 00:22:53,154 so think of a man that's been a 647 00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:53,654 pastor 648 00:22:54,035 --> 00:22:54,694 and has 649 00:22:54,994 --> 00:22:55,494 preached 650 00:22:55,795 --> 00:22:58,440 Christ every day of his life, like, multiple 651 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,279 times, everything out of his mouth is and 652 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:02,140 then to hear in the temple that, 653 00:23:04,679 --> 00:23:07,000 your family can be still together forever, that 654 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,599 you can have your wife for eternity. That's 655 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:10,940 a new concept that nobody teaches. 656 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,339 And so I'm standing with him in the 657 00:23:13,505 --> 00:23:14,325 in the, 658 00:23:14,865 --> 00:23:18,244 ceiling room and just it's just a quiet, 659 00:23:19,585 --> 00:23:22,545 quiet, somber like, I don't know what what 660 00:23:22,545 --> 00:23:23,985 the feeling was. It was it was very 661 00:23:23,985 --> 00:23:26,725 peaceful, but deep thought, very deep thought. And 662 00:23:26,890 --> 00:23:28,970 that we'll return back to a God that 663 00:23:28,970 --> 00:23:30,750 we lived with before this life. 664 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:32,890 Those are things that a lot of other 665 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:35,869 churches don't ever question or talk about. 666 00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:38,569 And so that was just a really sweet 667 00:23:38,569 --> 00:23:41,450 experience to see this man who's adopted 35,000 668 00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:42,349 street children 669 00:23:42,904 --> 00:23:44,924 and loved his wife like, 670 00:23:45,625 --> 00:23:48,605 yeah, I no other and his family and 671 00:23:48,984 --> 00:23:51,005 and just these new concepts 672 00:23:51,784 --> 00:23:54,105 that he's never heard in his life before. 673 00:23:54,105 --> 00:23:56,579 It was really a sweet experience. So we 674 00:23:56,579 --> 00:23:58,740 go out, we take pictures with this giant 675 00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:00,179 massive group and it's not all of them 676 00:24:00,179 --> 00:24:01,619 because some of them are still going to 677 00:24:01,619 --> 00:24:04,259 temple and then we start loading up the 678 00:24:04,259 --> 00:24:06,440 buses to go to this amazing, 679 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:09,000 sweet Relief Society president. 680 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:10,519 Oh my goodness. 681 00:24:11,255 --> 00:24:11,755 Shirley 682 00:24:12,295 --> 00:24:12,795 is, 683 00:24:13,174 --> 00:24:13,674 like, 684 00:24:14,134 --> 00:24:14,955 an incredible 685 00:24:15,815 --> 00:24:18,315 just leader. That's what I can say. She's 686 00:24:18,535 --> 00:24:20,295 a Relief Society president and we got a 687 00:24:20,295 --> 00:24:21,735 hold of her and she says, Brenda, I'll 688 00:24:21,735 --> 00:24:23,575 take care of this. We'll feed them. We 689 00:24:23,575 --> 00:24:25,755 rented out a little school that we could, 690 00:24:26,289 --> 00:24:28,849 cook. You have to cook everything's cooked over 691 00:24:28,849 --> 00:24:31,490 fire there. And so the rice and beans 692 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:33,750 and the chicken that they fed them, 693 00:24:34,289 --> 00:24:37,089 they they cooked all morning and expected us 694 00:24:37,089 --> 00:24:39,570 at noon, waited till 02:30, I think, when 695 00:24:39,570 --> 00:24:41,829 our buses finally got there, some of them. 696 00:24:42,184 --> 00:24:44,184 And they just put out food and put 697 00:24:44,184 --> 00:24:46,904 out food and we'll share a picture. Just 698 00:24:46,904 --> 00:24:48,365 lines of people and 699 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,605 happy people. And, 700 00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:53,545 anyway, she had her and her crew just 701 00:24:53,545 --> 00:24:55,065 pumping that stuff out. And then we had 702 00:24:55,065 --> 00:24:57,000 Molly come with his choir and they sing 703 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,240 at as the people ate, the the choir 704 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,539 sang to us and just, you know, just 705 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:05,559 the the feeling of I think on the 706 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,740 temple ground, it's the feeling of 707 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,500 of angels, 708 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,460 of 709 00:25:11,054 --> 00:25:12,274 the heaven rejoicing, 710 00:25:13,615 --> 00:25:14,194 of, like, 711 00:25:14,974 --> 00:25:15,474 just 712 00:25:16,174 --> 00:25:18,335 the the feeling there is is not I 713 00:25:18,335 --> 00:25:20,494 don't have words for it, but it was 714 00:25:20,494 --> 00:25:22,674 just a really holy sacred time. 715 00:25:23,109 --> 00:25:25,029 And so and it just carried through. They 716 00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:27,109 got on the buses. They're happy. They're a 717 00:25:27,109 --> 00:25:28,649 little more talkative now 718 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:30,730 as they're eating, a little more, 719 00:25:31,829 --> 00:25:34,329 just just feeling good and and thankful. 720 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:37,210 And this is an experience that they never 721 00:25:37,555 --> 00:25:39,494 have had or would have ever had. 722 00:25:40,595 --> 00:25:41,075 And, 723 00:25:41,795 --> 00:25:44,195 the hope for them to return kept coming 724 00:25:44,195 --> 00:25:46,195 up. Like, one of the one of the 725 00:25:46,195 --> 00:25:48,515 guys said I never thought I could get 726 00:25:48,515 --> 00:25:50,535 my endowments in this life, and 727 00:25:50,890 --> 00:25:52,650 I'm gonna figure out how to come back 728 00:25:52,650 --> 00:25:54,730 and do that and just those kind of 729 00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:57,289 comments and the music and the everything. And 730 00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:59,130 then we finally got them on the buses 731 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:00,190 to send them back 732 00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:02,970 to their homes, and they had to figure 733 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:04,429 out how to get from the bus 734 00:26:05,025 --> 00:26:05,684 drop off 735 00:26:06,384 --> 00:26:08,225 to to their homes, which was a big 736 00:26:08,225 --> 00:26:09,525 sacrifice for 737 00:26:09,825 --> 00:26:11,904 I would say almost most of them was 738 00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:13,125 probably a big sacrifice. 739 00:26:13,984 --> 00:26:16,384 So Oh, that's so cool. So awesome. Any 740 00:26:16,384 --> 00:26:16,884 other 741 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:19,210 story that, you wanna make sure we we 742 00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:20,589 cover? Any other dynamic? 743 00:26:21,369 --> 00:26:22,970 No. I have so many I have so 744 00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:24,569 many stories. It could take a long time, 745 00:26:24,569 --> 00:26:26,829 but I I I just 746 00:26:27,930 --> 00:26:30,170 we had a lot of opposition. Like, I 747 00:26:30,170 --> 00:26:32,625 could feel it. It was so heavy and 748 00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:34,464 thick and I should've stopped and said, oh, 749 00:26:34,464 --> 00:26:35,904 that means it's gonna be really good, but 750 00:26:35,904 --> 00:26:37,845 I forget to do that until after. 751 00:26:38,384 --> 00:26:40,944 And so and and because we weren't I 752 00:26:40,944 --> 00:26:42,085 realized that 753 00:26:42,625 --> 00:26:44,704 one of my one of my hang ups 754 00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:45,204 was, 755 00:26:45,539 --> 00:26:47,080 you know, because I've been a leader 756 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,799 in many, many different 757 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:52,660 places in the church and had so many 758 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:53,160 opportunities 759 00:26:53,460 --> 00:26:55,720 of doing more, like, big things or whatever. 760 00:26:55,779 --> 00:26:57,380 But I always under the guise of the 761 00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:59,625 church and we weren't this time. In fact, 762 00:26:59,625 --> 00:27:01,325 we were we were not 763 00:27:01,705 --> 00:27:02,445 being really, 764 00:27:03,464 --> 00:27:05,144 we were we were on our own and 765 00:27:05,144 --> 00:27:06,744 and we needed to do that because there's 766 00:27:06,744 --> 00:27:08,265 no way you could get the church to 767 00:27:08,265 --> 00:27:10,825 say, okay, you can take 550 768 00:27:10,825 --> 00:27:13,384 people across a border into another country, like, 769 00:27:13,384 --> 00:27:15,240 it it never happened. So it had to 770 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920 be done this way. But I think in 771 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,140 my mind, just, 772 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240 just because of my programming and all my 773 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:21,740 experience 774 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:23,019 in leadership 775 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,460 is that I didn't feel like I 776 00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:28,845 could have all the angels and all the 777 00:27:28,845 --> 00:27:30,205 help that I kind of had to do 778 00:27:30,205 --> 00:27:31,805 it more on my own because I was 779 00:27:31,805 --> 00:27:32,865 outside of 780 00:27:35,164 --> 00:27:37,585 the boundaries of the church which was so 781 00:27:37,644 --> 00:27:39,805 silly that I didn't realize that till a 782 00:27:39,805 --> 00:27:42,065 couple of days ago when I'm like, Oh, 783 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:43,599 that's why I felt like I had to 784 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:44,420 carry this. 785 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,420 It could have been such 786 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,179 a easier, 787 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,519 more peaceful experience on my part had I 788 00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,400 had I recognized that because God love these 789 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,640 people and getting them to the temple, it 790 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,099 didn't have to be done 791 00:27:58,534 --> 00:28:01,174 this certain way or whatever. It it it 792 00:28:01,174 --> 00:28:02,714 was okay. And so, 793 00:28:03,414 --> 00:28:05,174 anyway, I just thought that was an interesting 794 00:28:05,174 --> 00:28:07,034 thing that I I learned. 795 00:28:07,494 --> 00:28:10,054 Yeah. I love it. I love it. Brenda, 796 00:28:10,054 --> 00:28:13,049 I so appreciate, that we gotta play some 797 00:28:13,049 --> 00:28:14,490 level of a of a role in this, 798 00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:16,250 you know, and and, obviously, we wanna give 799 00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:18,649 Thank you. Some gratitude to the listening audience 800 00:28:18,649 --> 00:28:20,809 for stepping up and making that happen. And 801 00:28:20,809 --> 00:28:22,889 it was just so, you know, encouraging to 802 00:28:22,889 --> 00:28:26,009 see just donations just flood in thinking, you 803 00:28:26,009 --> 00:28:28,034 know, I thought, yeah, there's Brenda. She had 804 00:28:28,034 --> 00:28:29,474 a cool story, and she's doing this good 805 00:28:29,474 --> 00:28:31,315 thing. Maybe we can, you know, get a 806 00:28:31,315 --> 00:28:33,875 couple thousand dollars and to just see each, 807 00:28:33,875 --> 00:28:35,794 you know, each stretch goal just blown out 808 00:28:35,794 --> 00:28:38,115 of the water, which was definitely needed as 809 00:28:38,115 --> 00:28:38,774 more people, 810 00:28:39,474 --> 00:28:41,680 stepped up wanting to come and and participate 811 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,640 in the open house. 812 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,660 So wow. 813 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,640 Such a special thing to be a part 814 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,640 of, and so I'm so glad. I'm glad 815 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,559 it worked out. We we could not have 816 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:52,880 done it without the funds. Like, there there 817 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,460 it just and the lord knew that and 818 00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,954 just put that all together for you. So 819 00:28:57,954 --> 00:28:59,974 thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. 820 00:29:00,355 --> 00:29:01,875 Well, sounds like we need to figure something 821 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:03,954 else out to help these awesome saints in 822 00:29:03,954 --> 00:29:06,035 the future. And so we'll definitely keep in 823 00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:06,595 touch and, 824 00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:10,450 and see how we can continue to shepherd 825 00:29:10,450 --> 00:29:12,049 people to the temple because that is a 826 00:29:12,049 --> 00:29:14,930 transformational place, and this is, an obvious story 827 00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:15,589 of that. 828 00:29:16,289 --> 00:29:19,109 It it I I know that 829 00:29:19,650 --> 00:29:20,150 it 830 00:29:20,865 --> 00:29:21,365 changed 831 00:29:21,664 --> 00:29:22,964 life and changed 832 00:29:23,585 --> 00:29:25,585 the the it will change the church there. 833 00:29:25,585 --> 00:29:27,045 It will boost it forward 834 00:29:27,744 --> 00:29:28,244 just 835 00:29:29,025 --> 00:29:30,724 in in leaps and bounds 836 00:29:31,025 --> 00:29:33,684 from from the pace they were going. Absolutely. 837 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:48,904 That concludes this episode of the Leading Saints 838 00:29:48,904 --> 00:29:50,745 podcast. 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