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Hello, everyone. Welcome to this live stream

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with Kurt Francon with leading saints. I'm gonna

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talk about why you need a podcast. And

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I know you didn't even know you needed

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a podcast, but you do. And as I

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go through here as different ideas, especially those

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who are experienced,

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any ideas come to mind, then

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please put it in the put it in

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the comments and I'll be monitoring those. I'm

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just pulling up my email because I got

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some sweet emails from people who've actually started

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award podcasts.

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Kathy from Edmonton, Alberta, serenity teacher, but love

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this idea

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for our steak also.

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I don't know. I think that would be

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a phenomenal idea as well.

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Peter says, I am the ward engagement specialist

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in Pittsboro, North Carolina, and we're getting ready

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to start one this month.

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Peter's gonna do awesome with that.

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Judy's here from Utah.

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A neighbor here. Love the idea.

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Is it Cali Kimpel? I'm pricing that wrong

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from on the road, RV family, primary pianist

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currently, but want to create. I mean, if

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you're road tripping, you need a YouTube channel.

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Right? That's the what the cool kids are

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doing these days. John, thinking about a youth

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run steak podcast. Oh, let me know how

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that goes where they share family history stories

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as a lead up to track. Yeah. That's

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a great idea. One that I wanna include

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it doesn't have to be like this project

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that we're gonna do forever.

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the next 6 months. We're gonna have a

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family history focus in the ward with the

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youth for youth trek, whatever it is, and

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create some stories, put them together, and then

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you can just be done with it. So

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love that. Fishers Indiana,

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we have a podcast, not super consistent yet,

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but I'm loving it. Consistency is not important.

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I mean, it helps. I'm kind of in

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a lull with my word podcast right now

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ever since I was called as the elder

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score in president. I need to find someone

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else in the word to help me, but,

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you know, all the things I gotta do.

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for stakes and for coordinating council levels too.

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I'll read those emails here in a minute,

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but people

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have interviewed, like, nonmembers in their area. Right?

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There's no rules with this. Right? Unless your

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bishop finds out and says, hey. I have

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a few rules for your the work audience.

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I kid. I kid. Alright. But, basically, this

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is what happened. Well, first of all, I

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and it really does go to a phenomenal

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the world. I mean, just people flooding in

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to learn about something as simple as a

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You get award podcast going in your award,

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it will shift culture. So if you wouldn't

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beneficial. So gotta give a shout out to

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my man, Sean Edwards. Greetings. Good to see

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you, my friend. I had a tough time

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getting momentum behind this idea, so looking forward

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to your thoughts.

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you know, the leader's ready, but the ward

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is not. Right? So

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you pick your battles. It's part of leadership,

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but, hey. Maybe you can send this link

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to somebody who is who's wanting to do

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a war podcast.

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There's somebody in the ward and just, like,

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get the get the motivation, get the ideas

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flowing for them. K? So

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the first version of this episode back in

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So, I mean, the good 3 years ago

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to it this week. And throughout the whole

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interview or it wasn't an interview. It was

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a monologue episode. I'm just telling myself, now,

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Kurt, that's a terrible idea. Don't tell him

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to do that. Right? And so I wanted

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to give kind of a refresh on this

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idea, some resources, some ideas, some ways to

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approach it, and hopefully, it will help you

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because there's new resources, there's new technologies. And

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along my journey of doing this in 3

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different wards, I've learned a few things. And

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I've realized, wow, that I overcomplicated

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it before. I can see how that could

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get somebody

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discouraged on this path. So I want to

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so so we continue momentum

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building towards this. So why award podcast?

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The big thing

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as I see it, and this don't let

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me go off and do a tangent because

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I will if I'm not disciplined here. But

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one of the purposes of word in my

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opinion is to stimulate community.

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all positive culture

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is based on a foundation of community. My

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friend Dan Duckworth is board member at Leading

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Saints talks about culture is

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the memory of a 1,000 moments. Right? And

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that's the elusive thing about culture. It's hard

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to you can't just create policy and influence

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culture or create rules that influence culture. Just,

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you know, speak words

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and influence culture. It's so much deeper than

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that. And it's gotta be based on a

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foundation of community because if you're like me

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and have had a human experiences,

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you know that when you get to know

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somebody

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intrigued by them. You're endeared towards them. Right?

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You understand them. You're more empathetic. You're more

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patient with individuals

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whom you know. And a war podcast does

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this. Now

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what we typically do in our experience is

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sacrament meeting introduction

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period. Right? Maybe a new couple moves into

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the ward, a new family. You ask the

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mother and father to speak. And,

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the sister stands up and says,

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let me take a few minutes to introduce

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my family to you. Now that makes sense.

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In the years past, that was sort of

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the only forum,

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the only megaphone

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you had to

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project out your story, to share who you

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are, where you're from, what you do for

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living, where you served your mission. Right? But

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one, that's not the purpose of sacrament meeting.

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Right? It's to get to know each other.

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And 2, it just takes precious time.

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3, sometimes they go off for ALS. Right?

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We've all been in that sacrament meeting.

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get a podcast going,

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just having an appropriate form to really get

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to know one another. Another thing I was

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gonna add there is that a few minutes

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is not enough

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to understand very complex people with very complex

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faith journeys and

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careers and personalities.

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And so you create a form in which

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to do that. Now with modern day technology,

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it's so easy to do that. So

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the reason why you wanna do a word

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podcast is to stimulate positive culture. Right? And

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I could say that maybe for any piece

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of content the leading saints creates is that's

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what we're striving to. That is what leadership

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culture influence.

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Right? Hopefully for the better. Another reason you

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wanna do this is,

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it's a good word history.

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And, man, I would love to go back

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to my childhood ward

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and listen to interviews of people that I

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saw

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that I grew up with. Right? That would

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be so intriguing to have that history

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not only

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for ward members, but for family members as

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is awesome.

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And then yeah. So those are maybe some

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main reasons to consider a podcast. And and,

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again, don't put a lot of pressure on

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ourself. We as Latter day Saints have a

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tendency to make a thing a thing like,

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oh, this is we're doing this now, and

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it's every week. And, you know, there's a

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pressure to stay on top of it. Sometimes

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it's hard to get somebody to sit behind

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a microphone and and talk about their story.

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So just remove all pressure and say, let's

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get as many stories recorded as possible. Right?

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That's what I'm doing in my ward right

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now. Before I was called president,

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that was one of my focuses is doing

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the ward podcast, and I did it pretty

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much. You know, I regularly hit and miss

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here. And now it's kind of in a

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break, but I'll I'll get behind it again

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and get some people involved, and that's okay.

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Right? We'll get to those stories.

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But it's awesome to know that the stories

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I did record are just out there, and

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people can learn about, you know, Christophe and

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Sam and all these other individuals in in

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our ward about their story. And then as

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they listen to them, it's so fun to

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hear these

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hear these conversations in the hallway of, oh,

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I listened to your episode. That's so cool.

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Tell me about this and this and the

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other. Right? And it really stimulates conversation and

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it makes it easier to talk with one

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another. So alright.

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A few testimonials

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I wanted to share.

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This is from Brian

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Murray. He said, I started a word podcast

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a few years ago listening to Kurt talk

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about it on his podcast.

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We interview ward members of the ward and

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encourage them to tell their life story with

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emphasis

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on their spiritual development. I'd actually been released

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as a bishop of the ward. And one

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thing I noted while serving is that even

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though we are in the same ward for

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years we actually do not know each other

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very well. I felt that the the first

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step in building Zion society is come to

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know each other more in more meaningful ways.

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I used to talk by Sister Beck on

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building Zion as my guideline. We released about

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1 episode per month, and they tend to

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be long,

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60 to 90 minutes each. The one problem

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we have encountered is that some people do

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not want to participate.

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They do not want to be known. I

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presume out of fear of some kind. But

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those who have participated, they are always extremely

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grateful for the opportunity and have used it

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as a basis to start their own life

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story of for posterity.

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Many members have commented that after listening to

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a story that they they can now understand

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other members better. One member died suddenly and

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unexpectedly

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about 1

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year after their episode.

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That member's family

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was so grateful

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to have the recording archived. Isn't that awesome?

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So and this so I do that every

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time when I record. I usually send the

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person I I send them the, you know,

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the the raw file of the m p

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3. Say, here it is. Do what you

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want with it. And I think you can

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actually upload it to FamilySearch

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and put it there and away it goes.

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So for the posterity.

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J 2 b says this is also a

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great way to involve missionaries and at a

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stake in area level, get involved with government

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officials, interfaith councils, business owners, etcetera. Absolutely. This

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could be something your communications

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rep can do with getting to know the

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community, interviewing local businesses, local pastors, you know,

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and and creating a forum where you can

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get to know get to know one of

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their so very dynamic ways we can use

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this. Let's see. I wanted to share my

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good friend, Ken. I've been doing award podcasts

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on and off for a couple years. Here's

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what I've learned. Everyone thinks they are boring,

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including the guy who speaks Arabic and the

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woman who does forensic genealogy.

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It's so true. I've even noticed that with

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leading saints that

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everybody thinks they're boring. And once you get

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them talking, they're everybody's fascinating.

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He says, number 2, everyone is interested and

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and has incredible everyone is interesting and has

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incredible stories. People I've known for decades have

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parts of their story I've never heard before.

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Too many people are afraid to sit down

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in front of my phone, but so far,

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I haven't had any casualties.

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It's true. I've never witnessed a death during

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a podcast. He says, I'm not interviewing you.

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We're just having a conversation like we would

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if we were having lunch together. I'm not

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going to dig. So if you want don't

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want to discuss something, don't bring it up.

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I'm doing the podcast for me. I love

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getting to know

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members of my ward better. That's a really,

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like, a fringe benefit is the those who

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actually do the podcast. I know of a

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guy who did the word podcast, and then

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he was called as a bishop of that

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ward, and he continued to do the podcast.

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Because it is such a easy way to

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get to know people, and it's a fun

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way too. He says rather than go back

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and forth to coordinate schedules, I have a

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scheduling link through Calendly

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that puts people in my calendar. It's mutually

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convenient.

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I've had couples and individuals on the podcast.

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Couples have the easy for the person who

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won't otherwise be on the podcast, and they

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always share stories. And the videos make it

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easy to learn more in each person in

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the family. I kind of suggest my approach.

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I mean, if somebody is really nervous and

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they only wanna do it if their spouse

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is there, I understand that. Just roll with

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it. But I would much prefer doing individuals,

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and it's fun doing, like, one one spouse

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followed the by the other spouse because you

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just kinda hear their dating story and how

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they met, and then they get the other

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side of the story, and it kinda builds

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this fun dynamic. You kinda see who's, you

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know, 2 versions of the same story.

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Ken also says, I won't pressure my wife

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to be on the podcast, but I do

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sprinkle things about her when there's an easy

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connection. It's totally worth it. You should do

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it. So really cool stuff. Brad asked about

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editing. I'll get to that. How much time,

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cost of equipment, the software? Oh, I got

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a great great answer for you there. And

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here's Ken himself.

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I don't edit mine. I think that's much

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added value. So that's actually Ken who we're

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just reading about.

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Jason says we've been running a word podcast

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for over 2 years now, and it's still

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going strong. We actually interview members of an

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entire stake and have also interviewed members of

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other faiths. I think more than anything we

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learned that people want connection. As a bishop,

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it certainly has helped me build relationships with

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people who not normally be on my social

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net network.

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So true. Alright. I know you wanna get

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to the good stuff. So

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let's jump into that. So the first thing

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I wanna say is when starting a war

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podcast, I can't emphasize this enough. You've got

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to keep it simple. Okay? And you may

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think, oh, you know, what about brother so

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and so? He's got, like, a garage band

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that he he does and does some audio

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work, and that's fine. You can call him

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and have him help with the podcast. But

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what happens is that he brings his technical

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mind. He brings the all the equipment, right,

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and the mixers and the the top of

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line mics, and he's got the studio, and

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he invites people, and he overcomplicates

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it, which is fine for him. For him,

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it's not overcomplicated. He's like, oh, I could

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do this in my sleep. But then

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he moves out or he gets a different

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calling and you call someone else and there's

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a sort of this high standard. Right?

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So even myself as a podcaster, I keep

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it really, really, really simple. I mean, I

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use this mic simply because

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this is where I happen to be, and

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it's a good podcast mic. But there's nothing

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wrong with using your laptop mic. And I

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know there's audio engineers out there, like, screaming

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at me, but but really there's no reason

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to overcomplicate this. Most laptops now, most phones,

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most iPads, they have phenomenal

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microphones as compared to anything in the past.

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So really keep it simple. Don't let the

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tech guy run over, and, really, there's almost

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no cost to this. I would probably suggest,

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like, you think of all the money that

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goes towards cold ham on Christmas or

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decorations for

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the, you know, trunk or tree, and you

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could probably

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give 50, to a $100 every year to

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the war podcast, and it would probably make

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a considerable difference or but definitely not necessary.

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Okay? So let's talk about equipment and software.

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So this is the thing. Keep it simple.

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Use Zoom. In my first episode, the my

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first recording, I said, you know, it's really

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good if you go to their house and

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you can use your phone or just get

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a simple recorder or whatever. But no. Like,

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especially after

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the pandemic, everybody is pretty comfortable with Zoom,

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and it's very easy to record.

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And everybody knows how to hook their microphone

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up, and it's so much easier to convince

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people when they just have to get on

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a Zoom call rather than have you come

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over. I gotta clean the house or, oh,

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I gotta go over to this person's house.

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I don't know if you're comfortable. You wanna

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meet at the church or it's just again,

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keep it simple. Right? Just do Zoom. Say,

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I'll send you a Zoom link, and we'll

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get on, and we'll just have a conversation.

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And you just record it via Zoom, and

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you download the audio file and go from

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there. Right?

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Very simple. Just use Zoom. Now there are

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free

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audio

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editing,

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softwares out there if you do.

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Maybe there's an interruption or there's some tweak

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you wanna give it, but really there I

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rarely edit anything of interviews. I do now,

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of course. I've done almost, you know, 8,

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900,

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interviews

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in my professional life, so it's a little

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bit easier for me. I I recognize that.

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But you can use Audacity,

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which is a free software that you can

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pretty much do anything with when it comes

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to audio editing. Or, most Macs as I

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understand it, come with a GarageBand, which is

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a software pre installed on the Mac that

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pretty straightforward with editing audio, so you can

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do that. There's also an online service called

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Auphonics

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a u p h o n I c

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s. I can and I'll link to all

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these things in the in the show notes

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what's I I get done here. Auphonics

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runs the audio through it and balances it

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so that way if someone has a really

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soft voice or their their mic was quieter

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than the other just balances it so that

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one person's not screaming at you while the

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other person is whispering.

533
00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:52,150
It's the same level and you know they

534
00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:55,244
have a freemium model so there's plenty of

535
00:18:55,244 --> 00:18:56,684
bandwidth there for you to do a Word

536
00:18:56,684 --> 00:18:59,664
podcast and using Auphonic. So record on Zoom.

537
00:18:59,725 --> 00:19:01,424
I export the MP 3 file.

538
00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:03,005
Maybe I need to edit it, put it

539
00:19:03,005 --> 00:19:04,705
into Audacity or GarageBand,

540
00:19:05,085 --> 00:19:06,059
make a few tweaks.

541
00:19:06,539 --> 00:19:08,620
In my opinion, some people like to get

542
00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:10,779
cute with the podcast and do some music

543
00:19:10,779 --> 00:19:13,019
and maybe a, you know, a read through.

544
00:19:13,019 --> 00:19:14,240
Like, welcome to

545
00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:18,779
the Wonder Wander Ward podcast, and my name

546
00:19:18,779 --> 00:19:21,085
is Kurt and no. No. Stop it. Just

547
00:19:21,085 --> 00:19:23,345
put it out there. Right? Keep it simple.

548
00:19:23,404 --> 00:19:25,884
You don't wanna have this editing process. Even

549
00:19:25,884 --> 00:19:27,325
if you can do it, the next person

550
00:19:27,325 --> 00:19:28,684
may not be able to do it. So

551
00:19:28,684 --> 00:19:29,985
keep it simple. Right?

552
00:19:30,445 --> 00:19:32,525
So no music. I don't put any music

553
00:19:32,525 --> 00:19:33,990
on. Just here it is. We just start

554
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:35,750
talking and people listen to it, and nobody's

555
00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:37,990
ever complained or accused me of having a

556
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:38,490
very

557
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:41,430
low professional podcast because it's not a professional

558
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,269
podcast. It's a word podcast. Right? So keep

559
00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:44,009
it simple.

560
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:44,890
So

561
00:19:45,269 --> 00:19:47,634
Zoom, export the m p 3 file. Maybe

562
00:19:47,634 --> 00:19:49,795
I'll edit it through Audacity, run it through

563
00:19:49,795 --> 00:19:50,295
Auphonics,

564
00:19:50,674 --> 00:19:53,475
and there you go. You upload it to

565
00:19:53,475 --> 00:19:54,215
the podcast

566
00:19:54,914 --> 00:19:57,654
host. Now that takes us to hosting.

567
00:19:58,115 --> 00:19:59,174
Last time I recorded,

568
00:19:59,569 --> 00:20:01,569
you could use Anchor which I believe still

569
00:20:01,569 --> 00:20:02,549
exists. Spotify

570
00:20:02,929 --> 00:20:05,170
in the last few years bought Anchor. Anchor

571
00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:07,089
was simply I think it's Anchor dot f

572
00:20:07,089 --> 00:20:08,630
m is the web address.

573
00:20:09,009 --> 00:20:09,509
And

574
00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:12,609
Anchor was bought by Spotify last few years.

575
00:20:12,609 --> 00:20:13,795
But I think it still exists that you

576
00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:15,575
can still use it as a free

577
00:20:16,035 --> 00:20:16,535
podcast

578
00:20:17,315 --> 00:20:19,634
host. Right? And so you can create there,

579
00:20:19,634 --> 00:20:21,875
put your podcast art there, you can use

580
00:20:21,875 --> 00:20:24,115
Canva or take a picture of the front

581
00:20:24,115 --> 00:20:25,174
of your church or

582
00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:28,480
your bishopric or release study presidency, whatever, and

583
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,879
make that your podcast art. Again, keep it

584
00:20:30,879 --> 00:20:32,879
simple. It doesn't really matter as long as

585
00:20:32,879 --> 00:20:34,720
people know where to go. I think I

586
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,460
just use Canva, use a few, you know,

587
00:20:37,705 --> 00:20:38,445
clip arts

588
00:20:38,825 --> 00:20:40,904
and font and you're off and running. Pick

589
00:20:40,904 --> 00:20:41,725
a nice color.

590
00:20:42,265 --> 00:20:42,765
So

591
00:20:43,065 --> 00:20:45,705
with hosting, you can try Anchor because to

592
00:20:45,705 --> 00:20:47,705
me, some people will want to they're used

593
00:20:47,705 --> 00:20:49,545
to this podcast. They will want to subscribe

594
00:20:49,545 --> 00:20:50,125
to it.

595
00:20:50,505 --> 00:20:52,829
Now there are ways and I think Anchor

596
00:20:52,829 --> 00:20:55,869
has this ability. I also recommend Blueberry, which

597
00:20:55,869 --> 00:20:58,130
is a paid host, and transistor

598
00:20:58,829 --> 00:21:01,250
dot f m is another one I've used.

599
00:21:01,549 --> 00:21:03,470
A bit those are paid. Right? But again,

600
00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:05,494
might be worth it. And usually for a

601
00:21:05,494 --> 00:21:08,075
really low key podcast, they have pretty affordable

602
00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:10,375
rates there. But, again, you don't have to

603
00:21:10,375 --> 00:21:11,595
do that. Now

604
00:21:11,974 --> 00:21:13,255
a lot of hosts, they will have an

605
00:21:13,255 --> 00:21:15,575
option to do a private podcast, which means

606
00:21:15,575 --> 00:21:17,674
if somebody's searching through Apple Podcasts,

607
00:21:18,294 --> 00:21:19,914
they're not going to to see

608
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,720
your word podcast pop up. Now in my

609
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,220
opinion,

610
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,779
I have a lot of unpopular opinions,

611
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:26,660
privacy

612
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:27,700
and

613
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,539
it being public available

614
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,759
doesn't really matter because nobody's searching for your

615
00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:36,375
word podcast. K? So they're probably not going

616
00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:38,375
to stumble over it. You're not gonna get

617
00:21:38,375 --> 00:21:39,194
a lot of traffic

618
00:21:39,494 --> 00:21:41,974
because you're not reaching for a broader audience.

619
00:21:41,974 --> 00:21:42,474
So

620
00:21:42,934 --> 00:21:45,255
Apple or Spotify is not going to promote

621
00:21:45,255 --> 00:21:46,694
it or put it on top of some

622
00:21:46,694 --> 00:21:47,514
list somewhere.

623
00:21:47,894 --> 00:21:49,494
And even if they do, I just don't

624
00:21:49,494 --> 00:21:51,630
think people care. Now some people are weird

625
00:21:51,630 --> 00:21:54,269
about their stories or whatever. There's other things

626
00:21:54,269 --> 00:21:56,830
you can do about that. Another this actually

627
00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:59,070
was a suggestion from my good friend, Lindsey

628
00:21:59,070 --> 00:22:01,309
Clyde, and she runs the why I stay

629
00:22:01,309 --> 00:22:03,375
podcast, which you should check out. She's done

630
00:22:03,375 --> 00:22:05,455
it where she uploads, and this is, you

631
00:22:05,455 --> 00:22:07,455
you can upload it to YouTube. K? And

632
00:22:07,455 --> 00:22:10,015
just put it as unlisted. And that way,

633
00:22:10,015 --> 00:22:10,835
only those

634
00:22:11,295 --> 00:22:12,195
with the link

635
00:22:12,815 --> 00:22:13,714
to the actual,

636
00:22:14,095 --> 00:22:15,234
video or interview,

637
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,039
Those who have the link, only they can

638
00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:19,819
access it if it's unlisted.

639
00:22:20,279 --> 00:22:21,799
I believe that's the case. You can create,

640
00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:22,299
like,

641
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,740
a a playlist,

642
00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:26,519
you know, of all the episodes and they

643
00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:28,184
should be able to get in that way.

644
00:22:28,424 --> 00:22:30,585
Or you can really keep it simple and

645
00:22:30,585 --> 00:22:33,884
secure and just create a Google Drive folder,

646
00:22:34,265 --> 00:22:36,585
a Dropbox folder, and just put it there

647
00:22:36,585 --> 00:22:38,424
and then give everybody the link to that

648
00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:40,365
folder and then they can listen to it

649
00:22:40,505 --> 00:22:42,664
that way. But to me, I just really

650
00:22:42,664 --> 00:22:45,039
don't think you're not exposing me. Let's it's

651
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:46,819
not like you're putting it out on Facebook,

652
00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:49,119
right, and saying, here's my friend. Listen to

653
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,159
their interview. Like, the way podcasts and RSS

654
00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:55,605
feeds work, nobody's really gonna stumble upon it

655
00:22:55,684 --> 00:22:57,204
if it's in a podcast feed, and I

656
00:22:57,204 --> 00:22:58,884
know people appreciate it. We'll listen to it

657
00:22:58,884 --> 00:23:00,644
more if they can add it to their

658
00:23:00,644 --> 00:23:01,845
Apple Podcasts or their

659
00:23:02,404 --> 00:23:04,744
or Spotify list or whatever it is. K?

660
00:23:05,044 --> 00:23:06,744
So, hopefully, that answers

661
00:23:07,444 --> 00:23:09,779
I saw this question from Reid. Can you

662
00:23:10,019 --> 00:23:12,420
restrict to access the podcast to own to

663
00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:13,779
your own word, or does it go out

664
00:23:13,779 --> 00:23:15,140
to all the world? Yeah. So hopefully I

665
00:23:15,140 --> 00:23:17,940
answered that. Sean says, you could put a

666
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:20,019
link in the unit history page of your

667
00:23:20,019 --> 00:23:23,115
word. What a phenomenal transition, Sean. But the

668
00:23:23,115 --> 00:23:26,154
church has recently created a word history a

669
00:23:26,154 --> 00:23:27,134
word unit.

670
00:23:27,595 --> 00:23:29,515
You're logged in and you go to unit

671
00:23:29,515 --> 00:23:30,015
history.churchofjesuschrist.org.

672
00:23:32,394 --> 00:23:34,494
It will take you into your unit history.

673
00:23:34,890 --> 00:23:36,970
And I think only ward council members have

674
00:23:36,970 --> 00:23:38,730
access to creating something that has to be

675
00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:41,210
approved or your ward historian. So whoever does

676
00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:42,269
your ward podcast,

677
00:23:42,730 --> 00:23:44,330
you can give Maxus here. Now I've talked

678
00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:46,650
to with the project manager at the church

679
00:23:46,650 --> 00:23:49,304
office building is actually doing the unit history.

680
00:23:49,304 --> 00:23:50,744
I don't think they have a way of

681
00:23:50,744 --> 00:23:51,244
attaching

682
00:23:51,784 --> 00:23:53,625
audio files yet to the word history, but

683
00:23:53,625 --> 00:23:55,065
you could put a link in there, right,

684
00:23:55,065 --> 00:23:56,825
from Google Drive or wherever it is and

685
00:23:56,825 --> 00:23:58,744
then point people that way. And then that

686
00:23:58,744 --> 00:24:01,704
will create some more security that way if

687
00:24:01,704 --> 00:24:02,204
you

688
00:24:02,825 --> 00:24:05,570
so desire. So that's with hosting. I think

689
00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:06,230
I've covered

690
00:24:06,690 --> 00:24:09,009
as far as hosting some options there. Again,

691
00:24:09,009 --> 00:24:10,070
just keep it simple.

692
00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,150
Let's talk about interviewing.

693
00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:13,350
So

694
00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:15,430
like it was mentioned in some of those

695
00:24:15,809 --> 00:24:18,105
emails, some people don't wanna be interviewed, and,

696
00:24:18,105 --> 00:24:20,904
really, that's fine. Unfortunately, it's the older generation

697
00:24:20,904 --> 00:24:22,605
of the ward who's, like, really suspicious.

698
00:24:23,705 --> 00:24:24,924
I've had a few interesting

699
00:24:25,865 --> 00:24:27,865
conversations as I approach, you know, the sweet

700
00:24:27,865 --> 00:24:29,625
80 year old lady who's probably has a

701
00:24:29,625 --> 00:24:31,509
phenomenal life story and, what, you wanna corner

702
00:24:31,509 --> 00:24:33,750
my house and talk about my life and

703
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:35,750
put it on the Internet? Like, what? You

704
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:38,710
know? And usually, I don't you know, there's

705
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:40,789
no reason to push, but you can, you

706
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:42,630
know, maybe take the angle of this will

707
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:44,789
be a wonderful family history. We can send

708
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:46,309
it to your family and make sure they're

709
00:24:46,309 --> 00:24:48,464
aware of it. They would love that, obviously.

710
00:24:49,005 --> 00:24:50,924
But I would say get the low hanging

711
00:24:50,924 --> 00:24:52,444
fruit at the beginning. I always try when

712
00:24:52,444 --> 00:24:54,284
I start a war podcast, I try and

713
00:24:54,284 --> 00:24:54,944
get the

714
00:24:55,244 --> 00:24:57,744
bishopric, the release study presidency, the word council,

715
00:24:57,884 --> 00:25:00,420
all recorded sort of setting that example. And,

716
00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:01,940
of course, people you know, these are people

717
00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:03,380
that are more prominent

718
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:05,799
you know, visually prominent in the word that

719
00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:07,860
people might be intrigued by their story or

720
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:09,539
who these people are. They're our leaders, but

721
00:25:09,539 --> 00:25:10,980
who are they? What's their story? Right? And

722
00:25:10,980 --> 00:25:12,900
so I usually start with the word council.

723
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,920
And then as you get more and more

724
00:25:15,224 --> 00:25:16,904
interviews out there and people listen to them,

725
00:25:16,904 --> 00:25:19,304
people become more and more comfortable with what

726
00:25:19,304 --> 00:25:21,964
you're doing. And but there are people who

727
00:25:22,105 --> 00:25:24,105
don't wanna do it. And oftentimes, I'll say,

728
00:25:24,105 --> 00:25:25,464
if they're really like, I don't wanna do

729
00:25:25,464 --> 00:25:27,384
that. Say, how about this? I'll come over

730
00:25:27,384 --> 00:25:29,325
or we'll connect through Zoom, make it simple.

731
00:25:29,529 --> 00:25:31,769
Let's do a Zoom call. We'll record it

732
00:25:31,769 --> 00:25:33,130
just as a test run. We'll just see

733
00:25:33,130 --> 00:25:35,609
how it goes, and, then we can decide

734
00:25:35,609 --> 00:25:37,650
at that point if you want to share

735
00:25:37,650 --> 00:25:39,309
it with Ward. And worst case scenario,

736
00:25:39,769 --> 00:25:41,369
you can just keep the file, and you'll

737
00:25:41,369 --> 00:25:42,934
have a a living history,

738
00:25:43,554 --> 00:25:45,654
share with your posterity. Right? And that usually

739
00:25:46,115 --> 00:25:47,714
gets them to the point of, okay. Actually,

740
00:25:47,714 --> 00:25:49,875
this isn't too bad or that interview went

741
00:25:49,875 --> 00:25:51,474
better than I thought. So, yeah, why don't

742
00:25:51,474 --> 00:25:52,835
you share it with the Ward? It's fine.

743
00:25:52,835 --> 00:25:55,015
I've had that happen quite a bit. So

744
00:25:55,099 --> 00:25:57,019
how we send them the m p three

745
00:25:57,019 --> 00:25:59,259
separately for their records. And again, they can

746
00:25:59,259 --> 00:26:02,220
attach that upload that to family search. I

747
00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:05,759
recommend interviewing spouses separately unless they're really apprehensive.

748
00:26:06,059 --> 00:26:08,375
I think it people seem more at ease

749
00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:10,054
when they're just talking about themselves, and they're

750
00:26:10,054 --> 00:26:12,054
not, like, wondering, you know, well, if I

751
00:26:12,054 --> 00:26:13,974
say this, my spouse will think that or

752
00:26:13,974 --> 00:26:15,734
they'll interject or, no, it didn't happen that

753
00:26:15,734 --> 00:26:17,494
way. This is what happened. Right? A lot

754
00:26:17,494 --> 00:26:18,934
of people ask me, well, what questions do

755
00:26:18,934 --> 00:26:20,579
I ask? And, again, this is a hard

756
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:21,619
one for me just because I have so

757
00:26:21,619 --> 00:26:23,319
much experience interviewing people,

758
00:26:23,619 --> 00:26:25,960
but I just say, just get really curious

759
00:26:26,259 --> 00:26:27,240
about their life.

760
00:26:27,539 --> 00:26:29,059
And I've tried to do it through a

761
00:26:29,059 --> 00:26:30,900
timeline, like, tell me about, you know, where

762
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:31,720
were you born?

763
00:26:32,099 --> 00:26:34,565
The question I always start with is,

764
00:26:34,865 --> 00:26:36,644
tell me where does your name come from?

765
00:26:36,784 --> 00:26:38,944
And, man, I've I've learned so much about

766
00:26:38,944 --> 00:26:41,585
people when they talk about their name and

767
00:26:41,585 --> 00:26:43,904
their middle name and their last name and

768
00:26:43,904 --> 00:26:45,125
their maiden name and

769
00:26:45,505 --> 00:26:47,744
ancestors or this funny story of where their

770
00:26:47,744 --> 00:26:49,700
parents got the name. Like, it's a phenomenal

771
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:52,579
first question. And I literally, like, hit record.

772
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,279
Tell me about your name. I say, what

773
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:56,659
name is on your birth certificate?

774
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,279
And that usually launches off in a conversation.

775
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:00,880
And they're just talking about their upbringing, what

776
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,319
their parents did, what kind of kid they

777
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,214
were. And then I get into their faith

778
00:27:04,214 --> 00:27:06,134
development, you know, as a youth, like, what

779
00:27:06,134 --> 00:27:08,055
was being like a youth for you? Were

780
00:27:08,055 --> 00:27:10,055
you always a believer? Was it was a

781
00:27:10,055 --> 00:27:12,055
mission a no brainer for you? Or was

782
00:27:12,055 --> 00:27:13,734
it something you really question whether you should

783
00:27:13,734 --> 00:27:15,734
do. Right? I think the trick is you're

784
00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:16,954
always looking for

785
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440
the friction point in their life. And this

786
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,440
is sometimes a little uncomfortable and takes some

787
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,160
practice. But, man, I remember an interview I

788
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,859
did a few words back with

789
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,059
a a lady,

790
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,119
had a young family and one of theirs

791
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,660
their children passed away

792
00:27:31,045 --> 00:27:33,525
as an infant. And, man, just to talk

793
00:27:33,525 --> 00:27:35,765
about that, you know, very respectfully, but the

794
00:27:35,765 --> 00:27:37,525
faith development that came out of the the

795
00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:39,765
miracles they saw through tragedy and all that

796
00:27:39,765 --> 00:27:42,404
was such a touching story. And so don't

797
00:27:42,404 --> 00:27:43,065
be afraid

798
00:27:43,445 --> 00:27:44,025
to maybe,

799
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:45,990
know, whether you need to ask permission or

800
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:47,350
whatever say, hey, can I ask you about

801
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:48,789
that? I would imagine that was like a

802
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:50,470
real struggle for you. What was that like?

803
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:52,970
Right? Because that's the point where the humanness

804
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:55,509
comes out is in those friction points. The

805
00:27:55,509 --> 00:27:56,009
struggle

806
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:59,769
is, the points where Jesus shows up. Right?

807
00:27:59,855 --> 00:28:02,575
So lean into that. And then then just

808
00:28:02,575 --> 00:28:04,255
keep going, you know, asking the general questions.

809
00:28:04,255 --> 00:28:06,414
What did tell me about your career or

810
00:28:06,414 --> 00:28:08,815
why'd you pick that career? Where'd you work?

811
00:28:08,815 --> 00:28:10,414
Did you like it? Right? Like all those

812
00:28:10,414 --> 00:28:12,255
things. And then usually I end with the

813
00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:14,109
question of, if you were to get into

814
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:15,710
a time machine and go a 100 years

815
00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:16,529
into the future,

816
00:28:16,990 --> 00:28:19,809
what one message would you tell your posterity?

817
00:28:19,869 --> 00:28:20,769
And, man,

818
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:22,849
you it is so cool

819
00:28:23,150 --> 00:28:25,069
to hear some of those responses and to

820
00:28:25,069 --> 00:28:25,569
know

821
00:28:25,974 --> 00:28:28,214
that their prosperity will will literally hear that

822
00:28:28,214 --> 00:28:29,815
in a 100 years. That is so powerful.

823
00:28:29,815 --> 00:28:32,294
Right? Like, I wonder what my great grandfather

824
00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:34,714
would say to me. Like, if he had

825
00:28:34,855 --> 00:28:36,934
2 minutes with me, what's the one message

826
00:28:36,934 --> 00:28:38,214
he would share with me? I would love

827
00:28:38,214 --> 00:28:39,919
to hear that. Right? So it's just such

828
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:43,299
a blessing to to record that mission, professional

829
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:43,859
life.

830
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,759
Alright. So that's the general interview. I do

831
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,640
I'll look for questions as they they come

832
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,119
through if anybody has that. Again, just keep

833
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:54,115
it simple. It's gonna feel like uneasy or

834
00:28:54,115 --> 00:28:55,394
think I didn't do a very good job.

835
00:28:55,394 --> 00:28:56,755
It doesn't matter. You did more of a

836
00:28:56,755 --> 00:28:59,474
job than anybody else did by just doing

837
00:28:59,474 --> 00:29:01,634
the podcast. Right? And they'll appreciate it. I

838
00:29:01,634 --> 00:29:03,974
would much rather hear of the worst interview

839
00:29:04,355 --> 00:29:05,255
of my grandfather

840
00:29:05,634 --> 00:29:06,775
or my great grandmother

841
00:29:07,315 --> 00:29:07,815
than

842
00:29:08,329 --> 00:29:10,730
no interview at all. Right? So don't put

843
00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:12,490
too much pressure on you. Alright. The next

844
00:29:12,490 --> 00:29:14,509
thing as far as promoting the podcast,

845
00:29:14,809 --> 00:29:16,190
this is kinda tough because

846
00:29:16,570 --> 00:29:18,410
some people aren't familiar with podcasts or how

847
00:29:18,410 --> 00:29:19,849
it works. Other people are like, oh, how

848
00:29:19,849 --> 00:29:21,609
do what's it called? Bing bing bing boom.

849
00:29:21,609 --> 00:29:23,369
I'm subscribed. I'll I'll listen to these. This

850
00:29:23,369 --> 00:29:25,815
looks great. Right? But I make a real

851
00:29:25,815 --> 00:29:27,734
intent to promote it. And so one thing

852
00:29:27,734 --> 00:29:29,974
I've done is I will get a

853
00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:32,775
I'll just print out I'll put a QR

854
00:29:32,775 --> 00:29:34,535
code. So we if you don't know how

855
00:29:34,535 --> 00:29:36,455
to make a QR code, ask a high

856
00:29:36,455 --> 00:29:38,700
schooler or somebody. Make a QR code that

857
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:40,160
links directly to the podcast

858
00:29:40,539 --> 00:29:42,700
feed or the Google Drive folder or the

859
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,420
YouTube channel, you know, whatever it is. And

860
00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:46,859
so people can just scan it with their

861
00:29:46,859 --> 00:29:49,339
phones. I usually put one that goes to,

862
00:29:49,339 --> 00:29:51,180
like, in the relief society role and the

863
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:52,400
Sunday school roles.

864
00:29:53,044 --> 00:29:55,444
And usually every week, I'm, like, printing a

865
00:29:55,444 --> 00:29:56,724
new one out and just make sure I

866
00:29:56,724 --> 00:29:58,884
have it. I'll approach people at church like,

867
00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:00,565
hey. Have you you know, here it is.

868
00:30:00,565 --> 00:30:02,325
Have you listened to the podcast at all?

869
00:30:02,325 --> 00:30:04,325
Right? And then I'll take time to just

870
00:30:04,325 --> 00:30:06,779
raise my hand, you know, before a lesson

871
00:30:06,779 --> 00:30:08,700
and say, hey. We have a word podcast.

872
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:09,980
You should really listen to it. If you

873
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:10,960
have a word program,

874
00:30:11,339 --> 00:30:13,259
definitely go it was in the word programs.

875
00:30:13,259 --> 00:30:15,019
The people can find it there as, you

876
00:30:15,019 --> 00:30:16,779
know, they're in sacrament meeting or whatever it

877
00:30:16,779 --> 00:30:18,940
is. But I just keep mentioning it. Right?

878
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:21,105
If you another place of word Facebook group.

879
00:30:21,184 --> 00:30:22,704
If you have one of those, you know,

880
00:30:22,704 --> 00:30:24,384
place link in there that makes it really

881
00:30:24,384 --> 00:30:24,884
easy.

882
00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:27,345
And some people listen, a lot of people

883
00:30:27,345 --> 00:30:29,424
won't, but that's okay. Like, some people would

884
00:30:29,424 --> 00:30:31,345
get around to it. But, we had one

885
00:30:31,424 --> 00:30:33,585
another great approach is sometimes you get those

886
00:30:33,585 --> 00:30:35,424
saccharomy talks that are like, woah. Like, that

887
00:30:35,424 --> 00:30:38,600
was awesome. Remember one sister in my ward

888
00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:41,940
talked about her her journey with being diagnosed

889
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:44,180
as bipolar as a young mother and how

890
00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:46,580
that's impacted her life. But, you know, she

891
00:30:46,580 --> 00:30:49,335
talked for 15, 20 minutes. Right? And I

892
00:30:49,335 --> 00:30:50,934
wanted the whole story. Wait a minute. There's

893
00:30:50,934 --> 00:30:52,615
so much more there. So I interviewed her

894
00:30:52,615 --> 00:30:54,934
the following week. And so people love that

895
00:30:54,934 --> 00:30:56,375
in the ward to just hear the whole

896
00:30:56,375 --> 00:30:58,054
story and do you really dig in? We

897
00:30:58,054 --> 00:31:00,134
talked for over an hour about her life

898
00:31:00,134 --> 00:31:02,134
and things. So look for those opportunities for

899
00:31:02,134 --> 00:31:04,214
those who speak in church that maybe there's

900
00:31:04,214 --> 00:31:07,170
an opportunity for them to talk. So QR

901
00:31:07,170 --> 00:31:09,490
code, put on Facebook group, become a word

902
00:31:09,490 --> 00:31:09,990
historian.

903
00:31:10,450 --> 00:31:12,369
I've talked about you unit history dot church

904
00:31:12,369 --> 00:31:14,369
of Jesus Christ dot org, and I think

905
00:31:14,369 --> 00:31:16,470
that's it. Let's go to Jess here.

906
00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:18,674
Love this. Plan to chat about this as

907
00:31:18,755 --> 00:31:20,914
bishopric tomorrow morning. My ward has a lot

908
00:31:20,914 --> 00:31:23,975
of OG members with so much to share.

909
00:31:24,195 --> 00:31:26,674
Have you involved youth in any podcast episodes?

910
00:31:26,674 --> 00:31:28,994
Just thinking of them too. Yeah. I actually

911
00:31:28,994 --> 00:31:30,674
get this question with leading saints a lot.

912
00:31:30,674 --> 00:31:32,799
Like, why don't you interview more youth?

913
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:35,259
And I'll be honest, youth are just hard

914
00:31:35,259 --> 00:31:35,920
to interview.

915
00:31:36,779 --> 00:31:38,000
If you've ever been a bishop,

916
00:31:38,299 --> 00:31:40,779
you know this. Right? And so you definitely

917
00:31:40,779 --> 00:31:42,380
can. Maybe there's a fun way to do

918
00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:43,359
it. Maybe interview

919
00:31:43,795 --> 00:31:45,575
3 boys at a time in the ward,

920
00:31:45,634 --> 00:31:47,474
3 girls at a time. Maybe they can

921
00:31:47,474 --> 00:31:49,714
play off each other or something, but it's

922
00:31:49,714 --> 00:31:52,214
just tough. Right? Or maybe have a really

923
00:31:52,595 --> 00:31:53,815
verbose, teenager,

924
00:31:54,355 --> 00:31:55,174
you know, who's

925
00:31:55,634 --> 00:31:57,590
the drama kid who's used to being on

926
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:59,509
stage and whatever. Maybe they could run with

927
00:31:59,509 --> 00:32:01,049
it and do a youth channel,

928
00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:02,570
right, for it. So

929
00:32:03,109 --> 00:32:04,710
try it out. A lot of these things

930
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:06,390
I haven't tried, but doesn't mean they don't

931
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:08,070
work. And I'd love to hear how it

932
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:09,875
goes. So but that

933
00:32:10,174 --> 00:32:12,654
is that's the gist of why your Ward

934
00:32:12,654 --> 00:32:14,835
needs Ward podcast to build community.

935
00:32:15,214 --> 00:32:17,234
Just keep it simple. Just use Zoom.

936
00:32:17,535 --> 00:32:19,775
Keep it going that way. Here's Ken. He

937
00:32:19,775 --> 00:32:21,535
says, I did a group interview with several

938
00:32:21,535 --> 00:32:23,329
young men at a high adventure camp a

939
00:32:23,329 --> 00:32:25,170
couple years ago. It was great. Yeah. I

940
00:32:25,170 --> 00:32:27,170
love that where you get them in an

941
00:32:27,170 --> 00:32:29,250
atmosphere where maybe they've been hanging out for

942
00:32:29,250 --> 00:32:31,089
a day or 2. They're the young men's

943
00:32:31,089 --> 00:32:32,849
camp. They're hanging out by the fire. It's

944
00:32:32,849 --> 00:32:34,710
just there's a lot more you know,

945
00:32:35,009 --> 00:32:37,170
everybody feels relaxed, and maybe they'll they're more

946
00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:39,234
likely to to chat that way. So so

947
00:32:39,234 --> 00:32:41,575
love it. And again, when you're in person,

948
00:32:41,714 --> 00:32:43,555
keep it simple. Just use the recorder on

949
00:32:43,555 --> 00:32:45,555
your phone. Right? And you can, you know,

950
00:32:45,555 --> 00:32:47,154
as you're holding it, you can just say

951
00:32:47,154 --> 00:32:49,154
yada yada yada. What do you think? Yada

952
00:32:49,154 --> 00:32:51,590
yada yada. What do you think? Right? And

953
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:53,690
just keep it simple. Don't buy equipment.

954
00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:56,549
Don't get a studio. Don't ask your bishop

955
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:58,890
for a $1,000 to buy the perfect microphone.

956
00:32:59,350 --> 00:33:00,730
Not worth it. So

957
00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:01,850
with that,

958
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:04,490
this video, it's a live

959
00:33:04,894 --> 00:33:07,134
on YouTube. If you haven't subscribed to our

960
00:33:07,134 --> 00:33:08,974
YouTube channel, if you'd be sure to go

961
00:33:08,974 --> 00:33:11,294
do that so that, we can continue to

962
00:33:11,294 --> 00:33:12,575
do these lives and get more of a

963
00:33:12,575 --> 00:33:14,815
reach the more people we like or give

964
00:33:14,815 --> 00:33:16,654
this video a thumbs up that all always

965
00:33:16,654 --> 00:33:19,029
helps as well. So, again, if you wouldn't

966
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:20,470
mind taking the time to go to leading

967
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:23,830
saints.org and, hitting the donate button and, hopefully,

968
00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:25,830
this is a value and help us continue

969
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:28,090
to do this type of content by contributing

970
00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:31,705
to the the nonprofit organization, Leading Saints, and,

971
00:33:31,945 --> 00:33:34,345
be great. Jessica says, thank you, Kurt. I'm

972
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:36,105
excited to make this happen. Please keep me

973
00:33:36,105 --> 00:33:38,025
posted. I'd love to hear how it goes

974
00:33:38,025 --> 00:33:38,684
for people.

975
00:33:38,985 --> 00:33:40,505
Ken says, I haven't done it yet, but

976
00:33:40,505 --> 00:33:42,025
I'm thinking of passing around a list like

977
00:33:42,025 --> 00:33:43,785
a missionary calendar to get people who are

978
00:33:43,785 --> 00:33:46,019
willing to be on the podcast. Love it.

979
00:33:46,259 --> 00:33:47,720
Always just test it. Right?

980
00:33:48,019 --> 00:33:50,180
Wendy says do you just record with voice

981
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:52,580
memo or another app? I've had recording apps

982
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:54,420
fail me in the past. I'd like to

983
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:56,099
find the apps that give me an m

984
00:33:56,099 --> 00:33:58,019
p three file. So if you just search

985
00:33:58,019 --> 00:33:59,299
and try a few apps and just make

986
00:33:59,299 --> 00:34:01,240
sure it downloads an m p three file

987
00:34:01,444 --> 00:34:02,484
even if you have to pay a few

988
00:34:02,484 --> 00:34:04,005
bucks for it, it's well worth it. I

989
00:34:04,005 --> 00:34:05,865
think Google has one that's already

990
00:34:06,244 --> 00:34:08,724
a voice recorder on their Android devices. But,

991
00:34:08,724 --> 00:34:10,724
yeah, find one that you can try the

992
00:34:10,724 --> 00:34:12,324
voice memo. You know, if it gives you

993
00:34:12,324 --> 00:34:14,329
an m p 3 that's easy to edit

994
00:34:14,329 --> 00:34:16,570
and things like that. So Brian says, I

995
00:34:16,570 --> 00:34:18,409
know you said you use Zoom, but what

996
00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:20,989
camera are you using? I'm using a Canon

997
00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:21,630
EOS.

998
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:24,409
I don't know. I have a very nice

999
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:26,985
camera. Obviously, this is I use this for

1000
00:34:27,545 --> 00:34:30,345
top level leading saints contents, but you do

1001
00:34:30,345 --> 00:34:32,265
not need this kind of camera. Any laptop

1002
00:34:32,265 --> 00:34:34,445
camera will be just fine. Do you collect

1003
00:34:34,664 --> 00:34:35,805
participant releases

1004
00:34:36,184 --> 00:34:36,925
for podcasts?

1005
00:34:37,864 --> 00:34:40,425
I don't. Maybe you should. You can talk

1006
00:34:40,425 --> 00:34:42,000
to the attorney in your work, but I

1007
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,079
don't even do that with my Leading Saints

1008
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,480
podcast. So maybe there's a class action lawsuit

1009
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,320
coming my way. I don't know. But I

1010
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,559
think generally in this world, I just don't

1011
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:51,840
see a reason for it. So no, I

1012
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,440
do not do that nor will I. I

1013
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,375
don't think it's worth worrying about but I

1014
00:34:55,375 --> 00:34:57,055
don't know. Maybe an attorney will say you're

1015
00:34:57,055 --> 00:34:58,275
crazy if you don't. So,

1016
00:34:58,575 --> 00:35:01,055
Kathy, this was very valuable. Thank you. A

1017
00:35:01,055 --> 00:35:04,815
great start starting post for me. Awesome. Yeah.

1018
00:35:04,815 --> 00:35:07,375
Get started. Go out there and start the

1019
00:35:07,375 --> 00:35:10,170
word pod podcast, build community, share each other's

1020
00:35:10,170 --> 00:35:12,909
stories, and I promise it will shift the

1021
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:15,769
the feeling of the ward, the relationships of

1022
00:35:15,769 --> 00:35:17,150
the ward, and it'll be awesome.

1023
00:35:24,704 --> 00:35:27,184
The end. That's it for this Leading Saints

1024
00:35:27,184 --> 00:35:29,184
episode. I encourage you to check out some

1025
00:35:29,184 --> 00:35:31,344
of the most popular episodes of the podcast

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1028
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1031
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It came as a result of the position

1032
00:35:54,405 --> 00:35:57,304
of leadership, which was imposed upon us

1033
00:35:57,764 --> 00:36:00,565
by the God of heaven who brought forth

1034
00:36:00,565 --> 00:36:01,464
a restoration

1035
00:36:01,764 --> 00:36:04,105
of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

1036
00:36:04,839 --> 00:36:05,739
When the declaration

1037
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,539
was made concerning the only

1038
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,639
true and living Church upon the face of

1039
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:12,300
the earth,

1040
00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:15,579
we were immediately put in a position of

1041
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:16,139
loneliness,

1042
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:17,099
the loneliness

1043
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,059
of leadership

1044
00:36:18,804 --> 00:36:21,704
from which we cannot shrink nor run away,

1045
00:36:22,485 --> 00:36:24,965
and to which we must face up with

1046
00:36:24,965 --> 00:36:26,505
boldness and courage

1047
00:36:27,045 --> 00:36:27,784
and ability.