Welcome to the last American vagabond. Joining me
today is Gaborlka Mason, friend of the show
from Sirianna Analysis to discuss
broader topics of the Iran war, how Lebanon
is connected to this, and a larger conversation
about just the connections, the the background between
ISIS and Al Qaeda, connections to US and
Israel, and how that plays a factor in
all of this and how it's being discussed
being involved in now in Lebanon conversation.
Gomorrah, how are you today? Pleasure to have
you on the show, brother.
The pleasure is mine. Thank you so much
for having me on your show to discuss
this, very I would say it's complex, but
it's not complex at the same time. So
let's go through through them.
Well, we were I mean, I was we
were just saying this off the air just
a second ago. It kinda baffles me. My
audience is well aware of this. I I
I
you know, frustratingly talk about this all the
time is, the the origins behind Al Qaeda
and ISIS and, you know, funding and and
involvement.
You know, it it there's nuance very clearly,
but it's just so clear that there's involvement
that goes back to its origin point from
The US and even Israel. You know? So
and, you know, Ben Swan had a documentary
a long time ago that I thought did
a really good job on that. James Corbin
had this three part documentary on that that
that just nailed it to the wall with,
like, undeniable evidence. You know? But we it's
just how this tends to go. You know?
It's it's, you know, it's so much pushback
from the corporate media, mainstream alternative, sort of
kinda controlling the status quo. But it's important,
you know, that we just keep bringing this
to the table, and, hopefully, new people see
it. And, you know, on this, I've I've
this I've been talking about this a lot
over the last year. And I think we
may briefly touched on this last time we
spoke, but, you know, I'm of the mind
that I've never seen this many people start
to ask these questions and start to open
their eyes to things like that very point.
Do you see that kind of growing awareness?
And where do you think that's becoming the
majority? Or, you know, where do you put
that in your mind?
Actually, I was part of the people who,
believed that the people who believed
Al Qaeda is somehow under the control
of the United States empire or
managed by them or moved by them in
certain places, they are crazy nutjobs. I thought
they are conspiracy theories. And
the only time the suspicions
started for me, I'm I was just like
a normie person, like any other person. This
was in 2012
when I started seeing the influx of weapons
to Syria into the hands of what used
to be called Japet al Nusra, the Al
Qaeda affiliate in Syria.
Now back in the day, I still thought
that the Americans
would not really cross this line of basically
arming
a group like Al Qaeda in Syria. And
I thought that the allies of The United
States are doing it against the will of
the Americans because at the end of the
day, Al Qaeda is the boogeyman, Al Qaeda
is the enemy of The United States. Right?
They flew the fire the these jets to
the Twin Towers. They they blew up several
buildings.
They hit the Pentagon. They did all these
things.
But
this was the naive me for a very
long time ago, and I wasn't really involved
in really digging into these, let's say, security
incidences that happened in the past. And I'm
not an expert on nine eleven, but I
have checked the recent history, for example, when
it was in Afghanistan.
Now the convenient thing to do for an
American empire fighting during the cold war against
the Soviet Union
is to support the antidotes
of the Soviet Union back in the day,
the antidotes for the socialist and the communist,
and those who are basically the Islamists.
And the Islamists have seen
the communism
and socialism back in the day as,
an an absolute evil.
And they fought against them, and they thought
that communism,
at certain point, they will also take over
the Arabic and Islamic countries because in these
countries,
they were subjugated and subjected to
a long history of colonialism.
So the people were
excited about resisting against,
any sort of colonialism or neocolonialism,
especially after independence because the independence of these
countries was
at certain,
phases, just ink on a paper. They didn't
really gain their independence.
They gained their independence,
through recognition in the UN. But underground,
their political elite was captured. Their economies were
captured. So these economies, when they were still
dependent on, let's say, other countries,
basically, these countries have had influence over them.
So when the people try to liberate themselves
from any sort of,
dependence on outside forces, the Soviet Union came
and supported these, let's say, liberation movements. Right?
They supported the PLO in in Palestine. They
supported
in,
the revolutionaries in Libya. They supported many many
people also in South Africa. Right?
So the antidote for the for them was,
this Islamist, and the most active force in
this case were the mujahideen
in Afghanistan,
who were, by the way, they were French
group back in the day. They were not
very strong group.
But the Americans found that it would be
a brilliant idea, and this is, of course,
I'm quoting Hillary Clinton,
to support this mujahideen there because,
they would carry on this fight, and they
are very much motivated,
and they would like to become.
So they tasked Saudi Arabia and ISI, the
Pakistani intelligence back in the day, and the
Saudi intelligence to bring
these people,
multinational tech theory jihadists from all around the
world to Afghanistan and form units to fight
against the Soviet Union. And this was a
successful
strategy because they drained the finances of the
Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
And this was one of the reasons, let's
say, that, Soviet Union has withdrawn from Afghanistan
and also later collapsed. This is just one
of the reasons, not the reason.
The Americans found that this was a great
formula that they could copy in other places.
So another example is Libya.
Libya comes 2011,
and then you see in Benghazi, all the
Muslim Brotherhood, Salafis, Takfibis, Al Qaeda types joining
the fight against Gaddafi,
removing him from power, killing him in the
most heinous way. And then all these weapons
and the people who received the training in
Benghazi,
they transferred them to Syria the same year.
Once Gaddafi
was overthrown, they sent them to Syria.
And still, I was you know, because I
myself, I was so propagandized
by the press that you still, like, it's
impossible. It cannot happen.
Like, you cannot believe your eyes that this
type of fighters would receive
funding and support and training and arms from
who? The United States?
But then,
you start, like, seeing
the reality is on the ground because when
you live in Syria,
you have something on the press, and then
you have something on the ground in front
of your eyes. And you see that the
driving force behind the insurgency in Syria were
the same
Al Qaeda times.
Now I have moved
from, let's say, more activism between 2011 to
2017.
This was the phase where I did a
lots of activism on social media platforms
into more doing research about these cases. In
2017, I started my YouTube channel, and this
was the same year I remember
Jeffrey Sachs back in the day. He was
on MSNBC.
Still, he was they used to host him
on mainstream media outlets.
And he said something like,
Donald Trump's gut feeling is correct. He has
to be slow from Syria. Back in the
day, there was a debate about we're slowing
or not from Syria. He said, we have
done enough damage to the Syrian people. We
killed half a million people. I was like,
okay. Continue. And he said, this was a
CIA project
called Operation Timber Sycamore. It was a covered
covered operation
and signed by, Barack Obama to destabilize Syria
and use this Takfiri Jihadist, basically, to oust
Assad.
This was the first time I heard about
operation Timber Sycamore. And then when you dig
in, you notice that, actually,
this is the second
co the the second most costliest
corporation in the history
of the CIA.
They're basically spending or they have spent $1,000,000,000
per year over this Al Qaeda, Takfiri,
Jihadist in Syria.
And this was in, 2017
when Donald Trump ended operation Timber Sycamore
because
Trump
thought that it's too costly
for the strategy for The US strategy. And
he said, we could chalk Syria through economic
sanctions. If it's through economic warfare, why are
we spending all this money? So he didn't
really end the war. He just replaced it
from,
in in in military warfare into an economic
warfare. And this was more brutal
for the Syrian people because they these sanctions
impoverished 95 of the Syrian people and sent
them below the poverty line. Now during this
time, when I was doing research, I found
one document for the
Defense Intelligence Agency of the US dated in
2012,
and this is a a report that the
American Defense Intelligence Agency basically submitting to president
Obama and telling him in this report that
the driving force behind the insurgency in Syria
are the Al Qaeda in Iraq, the Salafi
jihadists, and the Muslim borders.
And then we have the WikiLeaks,
document,
WikiLeaks, which published the emails of Hillary Clinton,
and then you have the adviser of Hillary
Clinton back in the day. He used to
work for her, Jake Sullivan, who later became
the national security adviser for Joe Biden, basically
saying, quote, Al Qaeda is on our side
in Syria.
Okay?
Then in 2021,
we have the former US envoy to Syria,
James Sheffrey,
telling to the press, to the to PBS,
it's not like something leaked. He says, Jollani's
army, which is AKA al Qaeda franchise in
Syria,
is,
quote, it's a strategic asset. It's an asset
for The US strategy in Syria.
This is what he told the press. And
then you have the former ambassador to Syria,
Robert Ford, basically,
after the
overthrow of Assad, and Assad was ousted in,
December
2024.
In mid in mid twenty twenty five,
Robert Ford gave
a lecture to some think tanks,
and you know how arrogant are these people
are. And the ego in them sometimes speaks
because they think they are smart. They're not
smart. They're vile.
They're arrogant. They're criminal, but they're not as
smart as they think they are. And I
will tell you why I think they're not
smart.
Basically, he said, guys, I trained this guy.
Like,
I I trained this guy who is now
the president of Syria,
and, basically, I took him out of the
terrorism world.
So we have lots of evidence
in Syria that Al Qaeda has been
a contract army
for The United States. It's the boots on
the ground for the US empire in Syria.
And I'm quoting here professor Mikhail Hudson. I
remember,
in one of his
interviews, I believe, in 2018 or 2019,
he said,
basically, that, we, the Americans, we supported the
crazies in Afghanistan,
and we supported the crazies in Ukraine, the
neo Nazis, and now we are supporting the
crazies in Syria.
Those are the Al Qaeda. And he said,
Al Qaeda is basically a contract army for
The United States. I mean,
when something like this comes from an intellectual
and academic authority, it also gives you more,
self confidence to really come to this conclusion
and say, yes. Al Qaeda
was and still is a contract army of
The United States
to the point that
now as we speak, the the Jualani army,
basically, they're threatening Lebanon with an invasion
to
fight against Hezbollah
when Hezbollah is now facing
a ground invasion from the Israeli occupation forces
in the South.
So what
the Jolani HDS regime is doing, they're sending
reinforcement
to the North of, Lebanon,
and they are also on the Baha Valley
where the Israelis are trying to fight against
Hezbollah as well. And they're sending multinational security
jihadists there threatening Lebanon with this,
ground invasion
because
they say and they claim that Hezbollah has
violated the sovereignty of Syria. First things first,
Syria doesn't have sovereignty.
Syria's sovereignty is torn apart
by multiple
international and regional powers. We have five to
six
foreign forces on Syrian territories.
And beside that, we have all these multinational
tech TVs from all around the world. Israel
violates the Syrian airspace every day. Israel expands
on Syrian territories
every day. Israel captures and kidnaps Syrian civilians
and takes them to Israel
every day. Not a single bullet is being
shot from the Jolanic government against Israeli occupation
forces. Not a single one. And please remember,
Brian, that during the past fourteen years,
these people were so brave. They were like
rambles, right, against their own national army, against
the Syrian Arab army.
And they have carried out
thousands
of suicide attacks,
car bombs, rocket attacks, anti tank missiles.
The Americans gave them the,
what do they call the stingers.
And all these all these missiles that they
have,
the core networkets, for example, where are they
now? Why aren't they using them against Israel?
Because
this regime
is installed in Damascus
after a consensus
and an agreement between Turkey,
Israel,
and The United States. They have brought these
three powers, they have brought Jollani to power.
During the peak of the conflict between Lebanon,
hez Helwani's Hezbollah, and Israel when Nasrallah was
assassinated,
they reactivated the regime change because they found
that Hezbollah has been destabilized
and, has withdrawn its forces from Syria, and
it was an opportunity for them to knock
out Assad in this case. So, basically, Turkey,
in this case, is 100%
embedded with the Zionist project in the region
by hitting one of the players in this
axis of resistance
to kick out or knock out Assad and,
break the chain
between Lebanon,
which goes through Syria all the way to
Iraq and to from Iraq to, to Iran.
So what they they did, they cut this
chain between Tehran and Beirut,
and Erdogan
has taken credit for it multiple times. Netanyahu
has taken credit for himself multiple times. Trump
said that I put this guy in power
in, in Syria. So it's very overwhelming. And
just very quickly,
these people like Robert Ford and the rest,
between '20
between 2013, actually, to 2015, until I left
Lebanon,
I have
participated
in
several
NGO
workshops in
Beirut
organized by these think tanks, American think tanks,
John McCain Institute,
president,
Jimmy Carter's Institute.
And when you are there, all these so
called brains that you see that you see
them on on TV outlets who are giving
prophecies about Syria,
they join each other's workshops. They are there.
And during the
the tea time, the coffee time,
I found that these people think
during my conversation that we are idiots.
Like, we when when I say we, we,
the Syrian people,
they think that we are intellectually
below them, that they could treat us in
a way like we are shepherd
shepherd, and we they truly believe that we
are incapable of
managing our own affairs, and they're there basically
to teach us how we can build the
state.
And once you start challenging them
and showing them their limit,
you're already
being treated like this, you know, very annoying
guy in the in in this workshop
because the rest, unfortunately,
and this is something that I have to
say, very disappointing,
that many, many Syrian people who participated in
these workshops,
they loved to lick the boots of these
people because these people
secured them jobs, scholarships,
and visas
in America.
That's why you see,
that there was an incentive also for many
people to join the anti Assad wagon because
you gain a lot from it. You gain
jobs. You gain money. You gain you gain
fame, medals, prizes.
It's a lot. It's a lot. But these
people cared about everything except for their country.
It's and this is very shameful.
But And the Iranians nowadays,
in my opinion,
forget about these monarchists.
I think they are the minority.
Yeah. The Iranians have shown to the world
how respectable people they are and how you
can stand with your country and with your
nation and put your differences aside with your
government and defend your nation because this is
your country.
Yeah. I agree. And I I would compare
it to the time before '79
under the rule of the Shah, right, where
there was plenty of people, western and Iranian,
who just benefited wildly at the oligarch top
elitist at 1%.
You know? And it's funny how we misrepresent
that or rather the government or the narratives
of the media. I mean, you could literally
ask Iraq, a platform run by Elon Musk,
and it will tell you that the vast
majority of people who are living in poverty
and squalor, you know, and you know this.
But so that that's the way that that
gets framed. Right? Yeah. Some of them definitely,
but it's clearly not the benefit of the
Iranian people or the Lebanese people or the
Syrian people or wherever this is taking place.
Before before I move it, I wanna go
into more of the that thank you for
that outstanding
timeline. I mean, that's just I think you'll
even wake people up to that just by
what you outlined right there. And we'll include
source material, so make sure you check it
out. Before we go more into that, though,
some questions on what you said. One about
Turkey. Because, clearly, as you've seen, this is
becoming a an interesting talking point in the
conversation, right, where Israel is threatening that Turkey
will be next, for example. How do you
read that with what you were saying?
Actually, it's,
a love and hate relationship between Turkey and,
Israel in the region,
but they share a similar goal. The similar
goal is,
to keep the Iranian influence away from the
Levant
and because it challenges Turkish and Israeli,
leverage in the region. So they agree on
kicking the
Iranian influence out of Syria, out of Lebanon.
That's why they cooperate they have cooperated in
Syria, and they have cooperated also in nowadays,
they're cooperating in Lebanon
to in a bid to crush Hezbollah this
time. Right?
But after
when when you have a regime change and
things are over,
what what is the what about the day
after the regime change? And this is my
this is the question that many people were
asking. So what is it what about the
day after Assad? And nobody had an answer
for it. But because the Americans have found
a formula in Syria and they said, look,
Israelis
in the South Of Syria, this is your
sphere of influence.
And then we have the Turkish sphere of
influence in the North. And in the in
the Central Syria, we will give it to,
it's like a buffer zone that the the
Russians are having their,
military presence where they would separate between the
Israeli anti anti Turkish influence there. Right? It's
a mockery for,
to be honest with you, for geopolitics, for
history, for our intellectual
capacity
that nowadays we live in an era that
it's a it's a direct and indirect occupation
of your country, and it's being sold
to you as a freedom, as a democracy,
as prosperity.
Now,
Turkiye
is the first Islamic country which recognized Israel
in,
in in in the region.
Turkiye, during
the active genocide
against the Palestinians,
has not used its energy leverage against,
Israel. It has continuously sent the Azeri gas,
which I believe is around,
60%
of the Israeli
needs, from through the Jihad Port to to
Israel.
Nowadays,
the Americans
have given
the Israelis
Turkish made weapons through NATO,
cargo ships to Israel to use them against
who? Against the Lebanese. Right? So I think
one of the
psyops in the region was Erdogan.
Erdogan has a big mouth against Israel,
and the people of the region like rhetoric,
like talking, like this
strong man
saying saying the right things against Israel. But
when it comes to actions,
Turkey has done,
I wouldn't even say very little, actually.
Turkey's role was
to bring the people, especially the Sunni people
who has who have felt
after the invasion of Iraq and the humiliation
that they received by the Americans, that these
people have been humiliated and subjugated by the
Americans. And now you need someone who pretends
and comes and tells them, I'm here to
uplift you from your misery.
But the the sigh up here is that
the Arabic people and the Levantine people are
not Turks.
Now they're selling their agency to Turkey by
trying to associate, embed themselves with Turkey, and
Turkey is an imperialist
imperial power in the region with a long
history of occupation of these countries for four
hundred years, and these people for four hundred
years. So Erdogan came, presented itself as the
savior of these
oppressed people in the region
with great pro Palestinian
talk
and has taken them into his side
and then
shifted their anger
and their alarm, basically, from Israel into the
Shias.
Like, you see in the region that there
is this active attempt to turn this into
a Shia Sunni war. One of the play
one of the
men who is actively playing this role is
Erdogan,
and the second one is Qatar.
Qatar has poured
billions and billions of dollars
in creating new public opinion and shifting narratives
in the region
and played a very dirty sectarian war, Sunnis
against Shia, Shias against the Sunnis,
Sunnis against Alawites.
If any of your respected audience understand Arabic
and they followed
the coverage of Al Jazeera
in Syria,
you would be horrified
to listen what they're talking and how they're
inciting sectarian violence against the minorities in Syria.
And whose interest
do this does this sectarian talk serve? It
serves the Israeli interest because
in the region, if the Sunnis and the
Shias are united,
then their mutual enemy, it will be seen
as Israel. So if you divide them and
they turn them against each other, then the
Islamic,
so called, turns against each other, fights against
each other. And this is the exact same
recipe now that,
the other day, I was listening to,
senator,
Lindsey Graham, the pervert,
who was,
basically saying this is a religious war. This
is, like, a holy war. Right? And in
his mind, he wants he wants this to
be a religious war. He wants to be
he wants to turn this war into sectarian
war because first, it it brings the all
the Christian Zionists
on the side of Israel.
Secondly, it brings all these Sunni people in
the region on the side of these monarchies
to fight against Iran.
This is what they have been cooking for
a long time. However, in in the collective
consciousness
of the people,
like, when you watch these videos, those are
just Ahmadou videos, but they are indication what
the people believe. Right? You live in Jordan,
and you're Jordanian, and your government is basically
siding with Israel. It's actually
firing against Iranian missiles not to fall inside
Israel.
But then you see this AMR two videos
of people are recording these missiles and celebrating
the missiles going to Israel. You see the
same thing in Lebanon. You see the same
thing inside Israel,
which is Palestinian occupied territories.
Palestine is celebrating in these videos
that these missiles are coming.
Not out of hatred. This is something very
important, I believe, that many people,
we need to explain
because the conversation is always, yeah, because they
hate the Jewish people. They hate the Jews.
No.
These people have been living alongside the Jewish
people for centuries. Right. And
at at at at certain historical
times
when they were kicked out out of Spain
or or Portugal,
they came to the Arabic word. They came
to to Morocco. They went to Nigeria. They
went to Libya, and they came also to
the Middle East. They were safe in Iraq.
They were safe in Syria. They were safe
in Lebanon.
The only time it has become this sensitivity,
among the people in the region, Jewish and
non Jewish, is when Israel was created as
a political entity,
and Israel claimed to be a Jewish state
and represents all the Jewish people.
So the the Jewish people inside the Arabic
countries
have become like natural suspects
in the eyes of the people if Israel
says that we represent the Jewish people, and
we're occupying your land, and we're killing your
own people, and we want to bring all
the Jewish people from all around the world
into this one place. So imagine the type
of
psychological,
in in my opinion,
warfare they have waged in the region to
bring
this into the context of a Jewish against
this Muslim war. And this is not a
religious war. In in my eyes, it's not
a religious war. It's for me, it's a
it's a war against the imperial powers and
the people who stand behind the imperial powers.
Because nowadays, somebody when identifies as an anti
imperialist, I think it's an understatement.
There is even powers above these imperial powers.
We're talking about dynasties. We're talking about hidden
networks above them that are feeding these imperial
powers with money, logistics,
and the cover up
for all these, crimes that they're committing all
around the world, including the recent, genocide in,
in Gaza, in my opinion.
Yeah. Well, I agree. And I was actually
just gonna pull up. I'll I'll include the
show notes your your article about the network
above Epstein. Now but back to the religious
war part about this, and this is really
interesting to me because I agree with exactly
what you were laying out there. But I'm
sure you would concede that from Israel's perspective,
from the religious Zionism perspective,
and not even necessarily the Sunni Shia discussion.
From Zionism's perspective, the way that they're, you
know, greater Israel, that this is a religious
war on on everything else. Right? And so
this is what's interesting to me is
you tell me what you think. I feel
like this has almost always been at the
undercurrent of what they've created, the Sunni, Shia,
you know, the Shia kind of divide
creation.
And what's interesting is that seems to be
the Saudi Arabian part of this, and I'm
sure you're familiar with the history of that
with The US and Israel sort of creating
this construct. So what's interesting is without Saudi
Arabia as that entity, which is kinda confounding
with the way they discuss things anyway about
radical Muslim you know, Islam and it's just
interesting that without that, that that wouldn't necessarily
exist. Tell me what you think about that.
But then more so about the, you know,
the the Lindsey Graham saying it's a religious
war. Do you think he was trying to
imply the Sunni Shia point or that he
was literally talking about Israel and the Zionism
part of it? That's how I read that.
Go ahead. I I think I think he
was referring to both because in his eyes,
of course, this is a religious crusade
against the Persian Empire. This is how they
see it from historical perspective.
But when you see on the ground, for
example, if this is a crusade, then why
would Saudi Arabia participate on the side of
the crusaders? Right? Now,
many people are asking questions about the
American installations
in Qatar, in Kuwait, in Bahrain, in Oman,
in Saudi Arabia, and other UAE and other
Gulf Persian Gulf monarchies.
Those are not simply
defensive
weapons
aimed
at the missiles coming from Iran because Iran
has no interest in fighting against its Arab
and neighboring countries.
Those
technologies installed there, the early alarm systems,
is to help Israel.
Like, how how is how does Israel know
that
the,
these missiles are coming? Because they have Americans
have this early,
how
how to say this, that they send them
an alarm that the missile is coming, and
those are on the front lines, not in
Jordan, not in Palestine. Yes. What they took
out, as I understand, in in In Qatar.
In Qatar. Yeah. In Qatar. Yes.
So, see, Qatar also represents itself as an
anti Israeli force. They have a big mouth
in Al Jazeera, but this is, again, it's
a sign up.
What they do is, on one hand, they
gain credibility by,
verbally supporting the Palestine cause, and on the
other hand, they fight against the people and
the actors, let's say, who are supporting and
giving tangible support to the Palestinians, including Syria,
Iran, Hezbollah.
When you see now the coverage of Al
Jazeera, which is a state owned TV outlet,
it's quite obvious that they are anti Hezbollah
and they are anti Iran. Mhmm. So and
they have these military installations there. Now the
the religious aspect of it, this is very
important because,
Lindsey Graham is, of course, speaking,
from
the,
from the context of trying to create this
religious war that is going to bring the
the messiah
back.
And and this is something very weird for
me because the Zionists have a different opinion
about,
the the second the the coming of Messiah.
For them, Jesus Christ didn't come yet. And
the Christian Zionist want him to come for
the second time. Right. So even even the
goal the end goal is different between them,
which makes me believe that these people are
just using religion for geopolitical purposes because you
can truly sell these talking points to the
boomers, to the, sorry, to say, the idiots.
The other day, I was watching
Donald Trump giving a speech telling his audience
and this,
hundreds of people behind him and in front
of him that we won from day one
in Iran, and everybody was, like, celebrating it.
That means that these people have no clue
what is going on around the world. But
Israel portraying it as a religious war, it
makes it very hard for us not to
be accused of being an anti Semite Semite
because they take this into the religious war.
They take it like this is a war
between the Jews
against the anti Semites. Right? This is how
they
frame it. So once we categories,
really. Yeah. Right? But but
but we don't we don't see it that
way, and we don't want to see it
that way. We want to see it from
our geopolitical perspective,
but they because they own the press, they
try to have their grip over the talking
points and the narratives. So the moment you're
coming to criticize a policy,
you turn into an anti Semite because they
want it to become a religious war. And
this is exactly why
they have allowed
the
the beginning of Hamas.
Hamas as an organization
in the eighties in in in Gaza, it
was a fringe organization,
and the PLO was the bigger organization. Now
the Palestinian resistance groups between '48
to the late eighties,
they were mostly
nationalists,
left wing socialist, communist,
Syrian Syrian nationalist, for example, etcetera.
And they have spoken this universal,
they have argued with this universal terminologies about
colonialism,
anti imperialism.
They have connected the issue of Palestine with
the issue of the South Africa and the
apartheid.
So many people around the world have understood
the struggle of the Palestinians.
And this was,
a counter productive for the Israelis because they
were losing the narrative in western countries
where the people were,
saying, we shouldn't colonize the rest of the
world. We shouldn't have our presence in South
Africa. We shouldn't support
apartheid here. If we shouldn't support apartheid in
South Africa, then we shouldn't support apartheid also
in Israel and Palestine. Right? Right. So what
they do, basically,
they go after every single Palestinian
leader, political leader,
intellectual,
public opinion leader, intellectuals,
writers, authors,
poets,
everyone. They have killed, assassinated with car bombs
in Beirut, in Syria, in Palestine.
They have left no one, basically, to speak
this universal language.
And then in the late eighties, you have
Israel, basically, because they want to,
finally
kill this
nationalistic,
patriotic
movements
inside the palace, Palestinian people,
they have allowed and and and turned a
blind eye and facilitated
the spawn of Hamas as a counterweight for
the PLO
to fight against the PLO. And back in
the day, the PLO was not some,
bunch of traitors and collaborators like it is
the case today with Mahmoud Abbas in the.
Right? Back in the day, they were legit,
and they were, struggling against Israelis.
So they created an internal foe, basically, against
the PLO, and they turned them against each
other. Because as we started this conversation together,
the the natural enemy of the Islamists
are these nationalists,
are these socialists,
are these
patriotic people? Because the Islamist believe in an
Islamic caliphate,
and the Islamic caliphate is transnational.
It's not national. Right. And these movements in
Palestine were national movements. They believed in this,
border set. Right? So the Islamist wanted
to create a borderless like the Islamic caliphate
tried to do between Iraq and and Syria
back in the day. And this idea
came
in the mid nineteen twenties in
Egypt
when the Brits were the mandate power in
Egypt, and the resistance against them was coming
from the nationalist and the left wings.
So instead of fighting against them,
you allow
the the,
and facilitate
the creation
of an enemy for them, and that's where
the Islamists. So back in the day, they
supported the
emergence and the start of the Muslim borders
in the late nineteen twenties.
And since then,
Egypt has become, like, paralyzed.
All the time you have,
even during Jamel Abda Nasser time, the Muslim
borders, they were the ones fighting against Jamel
Abda Nasser, although he was one of the
most famous, let's say, and and influential leaders
in the Arab world. He had great ideas,
which in my opinion, on paper, they were
great, but, practically, they were very difficult to
implement.
In any ways, all I'm saying is this
Islamist have been instrumentalized for a very, very
long time by the Brits, by the Americans,
by the Israelis.
Yeah. And and what I find really interesting
about what you said right there is this
interesting arc of, you know I mean, my
opinion about any part of our government is
they'll say whatever they need to say to
get people to support them. I don't think
they believe in just about anything, but you
get this argument of, you know, America first,
nationalism from the Republican side, you know, the
more global perspective from the left. And and
yet what we look at is all of
them have been supporting and arming and and
and shipping around and, you know, with the
ISIS Al Qaeda elements, which the way you
frame that is arguably fighting for more of
a globalist perspective versus the groups that they
wanna frame as the bad guys who are
arguably fighting for more of a nationalist. It's
just kind of it's it's if you understand
that it's it's, you know, I guess, humorous
in its own way because these people are
so dishonest, but it's, you know, so real
with what they're carrying out. One other point
I wanted to get into about before we
move on to some of the Iran elements
and some sleeper cell conversation is Netanyahu in
all of this right now. That I want
your thought on why this is happening now
because, you know, well, my thought the way
I see this right now, and you don't
tell me what you think about it, is
ultimately that you have
what they've been wanting from the The US
to go at Iran for a very long
time. As we've all been covering, it's, like,
self evident at this point, how long Netanyahu's
been trying to make that happen. And it's
obvious that he's been becoming more and more
unpopular,
even especially because of post October 7 in
Israel, because of the understanding they have about
the way he handled that, the the warning,
the whole thing. And so
why suddenly with how unstable this seems to
be, do you think Netanyahu is suddenly kind
of pulling a raw or Lebanon into this?
And, you know, the other elements, do you
feel like this is his, like do you
feel he feels like this window to accomplish
this might be closing, and is maybe that
why it's all happening? If not, why do
you think this is all kind of coming
down right now from Netanyahu's I think I
think Netanyahu
believes that Donald Trump is a golden opportunity
for him. Mhmm. I have heard
the conspiracy theory the other day from a
friend. I'm I'm not going to mention his
name now because it's his conspiracy
theory. Maybe he would like to share it
later.
He said in 2016, there was this Russiagate
and, in The United States, and there was
this hysteria that Donald Trump is basically supported
by, Russia, and Hillary Clinton made a big
issue out of it. And he said the
real issue was that it was Israel who
was intervening in the elections in favor of
Donald Trump. But nobody dared to name Israel,
so everybody was blaming
Russia
back in the day for for Trump. And
remember that Trump came.
He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, and he
recognized the Golan Heights as,
Israeli territory. He gave
ex explicit right for the Brits and others
to,
take out the oil from also from,
from the Golan Heights.
He chopped the Syrian economy to the extent
that Syria has become completely paralyzed, and then
the regime change happened
due to these sanctions. It was these sanctions
which Alsud Assad and not the CIA covert
operation,
which was initially started in 2011. And he
said publicly
more than once that he that he gave
that specifically because Miriam Adelson asked him to
and gave money to his campaign. You know?
I think it's old in that, but that's
on the record. Exactly. Exactly. And now that
after October 7, of course, I believe October
7, just for the record, that it was
a let it happen,
incident
that Israelis knew that Hamas is going to
do. I'm not saying that Hamas was cooperating
with Israel. All I'm saying is, definitely,
Israel knew, and definitely, they had spies in,
among the Hamas elements. They knew exactly what
is going to happen, and they allowed it
to happen, activated
the,
Hannibal directive to kill as many Israeli as
possible. You can do atrocity propaganda, and you
go for genocide.
So they believe that,
this
undecisive,
let's say, victory in Gaza and undecisive victory
in Lebanon against Hezbollah after decapitation of the
leadership, and then the regime change in Syria,
it's a decisive victory for them that this
is a golden opportunity now to go after
Iran. And once you go after Iran, the
entire region will be under the what the
what the people call nowadays the empire.
So what Israel is trying to do is
to replace the Americans, basically, the Panamericana
with the
in the region and extend from the Nile
to the Euphrates to the extent that even
American officials who must represent American interests, they're
talking like they're Israeli officials.
Mike Huckabee,
when I watch him with, Tucker Carlson, I
I like, if you if I don't know
him at all and you I'm I'm like
no one and you tell me, who do
you think this guy is? I would say
he's the ambassador of Israel in United States.
Right? So when he when he was asked
about the Greater Israel Project, he said he's
fine with, the expansion of Israel between the
Nile and the Euphrates.
So how would you do that when there
is Israel?
Sorry, when there is Iran. Iran is the
only
state actor
in the world
in the world.
You can go from the Far East to
the Far
West. It's the only power
only state active in the world which is
actively
and with tangible
actions,
struggling against this project in the region.
So unless you have this
power diminished
or put at check, as they say, like,
to minimize the power of Iran or do
regime change, it's going to be very hard
for you to expand in in in the
region.
And this
expansion, some people
think that it can be through just military
means. No. You
Greater Israel project doesn't have to be
an occupation
through soldiers.
It can be that it is under indirect
Israeli financial control, under indirect economic control that
these countries are dependent
on the Israeli and American products and Israeli
and American protection and Israeli and American
technology technologies.
Like,
all these people, for example, speak about how
The Emirates and Saudi Arabia are becoming advanced,
and they're they're buying all these technologies.
But they're just importing these technologies. How many
of these technologies
are created or
invented or developed inside these countries? None.
Which means the Greater Israel project doesn't really
have to be like a map that Israel
has stretched between the Nile to the Euphrates.
All it has to be that this region
is is under
the the, influence and the leverage and the
patronage of these powers who represent the
power. And in this case, if you knock
out Iran, then you have from all the
way from Iran
to
the the Nile basically in Egypt is under
the
direct or indirect control of Israel.
And this is why,
I think the Iranians,
also saw it as an existential threat, and
that's why we can see the type of
reaction that they have done, which surprised their
friends and shocked their enemies. I mean, I
was surprised.
And I I have, I have also confessed
on my show and other shows that I
was wrong. And I thought that Iran at
some point will bend the knee because they
have to,
their allies were decimated in the region
when we talk about the Palestinian,
Syrian, and and the Lebanese in this case.
And I thought that when Iran comes to
the point where they have to choose between
a war or a compromise, they will compromise.
But it turned out that even during the
negotiation when they were willing to compromise,
that the Israelis were planning something else. And
I think they have given Iranians service
by attacking them, that Iran now has to
go to war and has seen it as
existential
to the extent that now the Americans and
the Israelis are asking for a ceasefire. And
the Iranians are saying,
there is no ceasefire is
the end of the negotiations, not the beginning
of the negotiations. Ceasefire means that we have
to agree on
the minimum. And the minimum here that not
now, not in the future, there's going to
be war against Iran. Not now, not in
the future, there is going to be war
against Hezbollah.
We will
impose our deterrence. And most importantly, all these
bases in the region that Americans have established,
they have to withdraw. And it doesn't mean
that these forces
have to go home
because some people think that Iranians want for
all The US forces to go home. All
they're asking is that these installations have to
be pure defensive.
If they are there to,
install air defenses, for example, that's fine. But
if you dare to spy on us, when
you're there to have your fighter jets, when
you're there,
carrying your Tomahawk missiles and pointed at gun
at us, then that's the thing that we
won't tolerate. And this is similar to what
the Russians are telling to the Americans.
We're not going to stop this
war until a new security architecture is being
established in Eastern Europe, meaning American NATO bases
have to withdraw at least the strategic weapons
to Germany
back 1991,
line. And this is the same what the
Iranians are trying to do in in the
Middle East nowadays. So
this is very important. Imagine that Iranians are
fighting for the Arabs and for themselves,
and these Arabic countries are fighting against Iran.
What does the hell do you want there?
Yeah. I as you rightly pointed out and
and
and data to back it up, that these
governments, Egypt in particular, as you mentioned, have
have been, you know, normalized, if you will.
And that doesn't mean their people support that.
Their governments have been placed there, clearly do.
But to to your point before we go
into the sleeper cell discussion, and I will
I'll we'll come back to we can end
with the point about, you know, the the
the Iran war justification and when but what
you were briefly briefly touching on there. I
wanna play this clip that I play all
the time, and I'm sure you've seen this
because it's very relevant to what you just
said. First, not just I do think it
will end up like this, at least as
they see it with occupation of these locations,
but you're right to point out that it's
not just that. It's influence. It's, you know,
security contracts, intelligence, you know Mhmm. Actual, you
know, equipment on the ground. And so thinking
of that, part of this worry for me
is not just that it's Israel trying to
seize these locations. I do believe that is
the outcome. But what it means for them
to basically control through these intelligence contracts and,
you know, delivering their spyware and their equipment
everywhere in the world that they make these
partnerships. And that, I think, is very relevant
to the sleeper cell point we'll get into
next. But I'm sure you've seen this to
just set this in people's minds before we
get into that. How did you convince
Hezbollah
to buy this?
Well, obviously,
they didn't know that they were buying it
from Israel. Who did they buy it from?
Or I think they were buying it from.
We have an incredible
array of possibilities
of creating
foreign companies
that have
no way been traced back to Israel, shell
companies over shell companies who affect the supply
chain to our favor.
We create a pretend world. We are a
global production company.
We write the screenplay.
We're the directors. We're the producers.
We're the main actors.
The world is our stage.
The fact that it was even publicly said
is amazing to me. And I'll just state
real quickly for those that always, you know,
rightly so question and push back about everything
we should. But remember, this was this was
set up by the Israeli government. It was
endorsed by the Israeli government. So people often
point out they they're lying or whatever. Maybe.
Right? But the point is they're stressing to
the world. We create fake companies
manipulate the supply chain, which is a crime,
but also the point I'm making about this
is some surveillance,
spyware. Yeah. What we know is I mean,
there's two examples of just this administration or
even go back to the first administration where
they were caught putting Stingray devices at the
White House during Trump's Mhmm. Administration. You know,
this is not new. Right? Wilkerson will tell
you they run the Pentagon according to his
boss. You know? So it's crazy to me.
So first, if you just have any comments
on that, and let's overlap this and so
with the the Iranian sleeper cell point. I
just sent you I just sent you private
message now
on on on this,
browser.
You can check. Let's play also this video.
It's the former head of Mossad also talking
about how they compromise electronics all around the
world. And this is just one and a
half minute. This one. This this is I
actually I I believe I believe I shared
that those two videos out when this came
out so side by side because the same
thing. Like, these two videos together, I don't
know how you ignore the reality of this.
Let me grab it really quickly. Go ahead
and set it up while I grab the
video.
Yeah. Talk to that. Go ahead.
Yeah. You know, the the problem
for me is this
the the the how they come with these
ideas, you know? Like, this is the thing
for me is
the creativity
in
how to harm,
not only your enemies, but also your friends.
This is something psychological,
in my opinion, that has to be studied.
Because
at at no point, I have seen
this type of
actions even among allies. Like, they spy on
each other, but they don't compromise and put,
explosives inside
inside electronics
in friendly countries or send it deliberately to
someone. I think
there is there it's unprecedented
to see this type
of creativity
in creating evil.
You know? And for me, that is a
terrifying part that it's not what they're capable
of, but rather because if you invest enough
money and energy and and studies and research
about something evil, you can do it as
well. But you have to come first with
the idea.
That's the thing for me, that the idea
of creating
a fake supply chain and delivering,
what we call them booby tapped, electronics
Yeah. To thousands and thousands of people
carried by you know, this is something that
is important for the people to understand in
what is Hezbollah? You know? Like, they think
the Hezbollah people are,
some masked people sitting on the hill twenty
four seven hours having their AK 47,
guns,
pointed at, at at Israel. And Hezbollah people
are just ordinary people
in
Lebanon. They are,
pharmacists. They are doctors. They are engineers. They
are farmers. They are barbers. They are
snack shop owners. They're just normal people,
and their towns are in Southern Lebanon, and
they're fighting against Israeli occupation forces,
and they receive training,
through Hezbollah.
And Hezbollah also includes
political wing, educational wing,
health institutions,
educational
universities, for example,
small financial institutions, banking.
And those are just civilians. They are not
they have not carried arms, and they were
not militants in Hezbollah. And they also carried
these walkie talkies.
And some of these walkie talkies were basically
at home. And all of a sudden, it
rang, and then the child came, oh, daddy.
The the the phone is ringing, and it
blew up,
on the face of the of of of
the babies.
Those are, in my opinion,
pure evil, you know, what they have done
with this. And it has just gone
it it I'm not going to say unnoticed,
but,
there is no
I mean,
Ryan, I'm I'm being very honest. I don't
really believe any longer that there is rules
based, international order, international law, and all these
things. They're just facade.
Mhmm.
They can kill half a million of us.
They can kill a million of us. They
won't blink an eye. Yeah. Like, imagine for
one and a half year, Hezbollah has not
fired a single bullet at at at Israel.
Right. And they were restrained, and they followed
the SIS five agreement.
Israel violated the SIS five agreement over
how how many times do you think they
violated? Just give me a number. It was
over it was thousands. That's what I heard.
There's because it's it's different reporting, but thousands.
It's over it's over 10,000 times. Right.
Over 10,000 times violated the ceasefire agreement and
killed 500 civilians during this
time. In the past four days, they killed
over 600 civilians in Lebanon.
And the the moment Hezbollah fired rockets
back at Israel,
the EU
the
EU comes and they condemn Hezbollah, and they
like, it has become scandalous for us because
you don't have to like Hezbollah to at
least acknowledge that Israel has violated the Israel
agreement 10,000 times. Right. And what is the
use then of the EU? Well, so what
what are you, basically? If you are just
parroting every single talking point of The US,
and The US is basically
stepping over you, humiliating you, and calling you,
like a useless vessel,
this is what how they see you,
then what like, there is no I mean,
I remember back in the day when I
was younger, there was some still dignity, and
there was some dignified politicians even in the
West, even in Europe. You know? Like, they
used to say no for such humiliation. Nowadays,
like, America is telling you we will occupy
your Greenland.
You have your cars to play with The
United States, in Iran, in in The Middle
East, with Israel,
but you're just copying what America says, and
now you expect what from America, basically. Because
they see you following them anyways.
So they're committing strategics,
in my opinion, suicide. And the EU is
over. Like, at least in my eyes, I
don't see, like, EU is as a
a credible functioning body any longer. They're just
following anyways.
So I think this will lead into,
the end of the of of the EU
in a matter of few years, probably decades,
some people say. Because
the EU was built on
the premise that this is a a free
continent. You have free speech.
We are the mediators.
We could mediate when there is I mean,
Germany used to play a mediation role between
Israel and and Hezbollah.
And back in the day,
what was Hezbollah? The back in the day,
Hezbollah was not a terrorist organization, and now
it's a terrorist organization. Why do you want
to consider it now a terrorist organization?
Why have you sold your previous role, which
you were playing an active role in The
Middle East? Right? So now you're irrelevant because
you just sidelined yourself by,
calling everyone a terrorist,
which basically fought against Israel. It's it's makes
no sense. But Yeah. I mean, if I
say more, then I will be in trouble.
So let's, let's,
let's say it's the first chain. Censorship on
this platform. But no. But I think it's
I think it's clear how this has gone
over the years is it's a slow infiltration.
It's not even secret. This is a is
a manipulation of these entities in order to
stop them from pushing back against this larger
agenda, which I I see at this point
is border it's this is the great reset.
This is globalism. This is all these are
all different elements of the same kind of
conglomerate of this agenda. Now just before we
move past this, just the same idea,
Israel's foreign ministry literally has the goal to
come out and say that this was an
unprovoked attack by Lebanon. You know? But this
is it's clear where these narratives are driving
from. You know? They play this clip before
we get too far away from the last
one. So remember, the setting up fake companies
to affect the supply chain, and this is
the former head of Assad making it clear
that these technology the technology that they were
just discussing is in every country and has
been for a very long time. And if
the numbers on a pager attack, as I
remember correctly, it was over 75% women and
children. Is that that's what I remember. Let
me know if that's accurate. Yeah. And the
surprises and Many, many Surprises. Yeah. Like, made
intelligence surprises. They just walk you talk to
do you know how many equipment I mean,
treated equipment do we have in these countries?
You can't you're not. I do.
You mean I do. You mean you mean
booby trapped equipment?
Not only booby trapped and spied Manipulated
equipment.
Alright? In which countries you're talking about? All
the countries that you can imagine.
So that's them admitting that that's in The
United States. Right? And in this interview, there
is something very important happened, and I think
it deserves an attention
that this guy claims that they're spying everywhere
around the world. Like, they have their compromised
electronics. They're spying on, friendly countries and enemy
countries.
But somehow, they didn't spy on Hamas
when they carried out October 7. Like, they
compromised Hezbollah.
They assassinated Nasrallah. They compromised
people inside
Iran. They assassinated their leader. They many of
the
top generals,
including the supreme leader. They assassinated Hamas official
inside Iran, inside his hotel room through WhatsApp
message, which he sent. But somehow,
they didn't spy
on
the enemy on the border here
preparing for a parachute attack with some
helicopter
you saw this,
with paddles. They were what?
It it it it it it's unbelievable. Who
who can believe that this was a surprise
attack? Nobody. I mean, that's the thing. Not
even Israelis believe that today. That's what's so
interesting about the control they have over the
mainstream narrative that just refuses to budge despite
the facts and everybody else's opinion. You know?
And it shows you. That's self evident to
me. You can decide the nuance about how
that's being done. Like, threats, money, whatever, that's
clear. You know? And that's my opinion. Right?
But so right here, this is so it's
obvious what we're discussing, and this is alarming.
You're talking about a foreign government that's committing
genocide that clearly has control enough to stop
these governments from acknowledging that who is essentially
threatening.
You know? Here, Trump, here's a golden pager
you can set in your office. Like, this
is this is these are meant to be,
in my mind, threats. Netanyahu in his one
America or one Israel 50 states forum that
200 and something congressman came to sit at,
He said and I I've played this so
many times. I can't get past how clear
this is. He says, he's talking about something
else. I think he's talking about weaponry or
something. Has no connection to it. He just
pivots and goes, you have a phone in
your pocket? That was made in Israel. And
then goes on to something completely irrelevant. And
how do you miss what that means? That's
my opinion still. Right? Yeah. But so I
know we have a limited time today, probably
about maybe
about thirteen more minutes. So let let's get
into the point about the sleeper cells and
just, you know, we can just briefly cover
this. Let me just rattle off some points
here I think are relevant, and then we
can kind of end with this point. Because,
you know, my whole point showing this, guys,
is it's obvious. There are Israeli assets welcomed
by these by the US government. I mean,
Wilkerson, again, will tell you on the record
that they have assets or or Kirchow, by
the way. This former CIA says they have
they knew how many unidentified
Israeli assets were in the country that they
allowed to be there. Right? So I'm not
suggesting it's not possible. In fact, I would
tell you it's absolutely possible that Iranian sleeper
cells can exist in this country. But I
believe with all this being said and how
much we can see, and Iran, by the
way, not yet attacking The US as a
as a country even though they would have
the legal right to because of what The
US Government's doing, it makes me question all
of this. Right? And whether they're setting this
up to create a false flag or just
to threaten this. But this happened before, and
I'm sure you saw this one. This was
back on the 06/24/2025
where they came out and they said, we
arrested 11 Iranian, you know, assets or sleeper
cells, and they literally the guy had a
literal army army ID from Iran. I just
laughed at that going because it's customary for
secret sleeper cells to be carrying their identification.
It it later turned out these were just
people. I mean, it certainly could have been
that we couldn't prove, but I felt like
that was a lie. We,
I'm not a huge supporter of the some
of the partisan elements here, but Ryan Mata
pointed out that he interviewed some of these
people, and it turned out they were just
regular Iranian people. It's from the MAGA side
of it. We have Hengseth saying this. I'll
play it really quickly. This is back from
March 2.
Turns about
Iranian sleeper cells and kind of what is
the Trump administration been doing to kinda monitor
these Well, across the United Agency,
in full coordination, of course, we're paying attention
to any potentialities there.
They're this is a former regime, a regime,
that seeks to exploit that ideology and try
to,
sow terror.
We're ready for that. We've we've we've seen
these types of folks before, and the American
people can rest assured that,
we're we're vigilant on that. How do you
guys think that is follow-up on that last
question. There was just this, what appears to
be a terrorist attack in Austin yesterday.
How does that change the operation at all?
What effect does that have? And I I
It doesn't change the operation at all, and
I know the authorities are are executing exactly
the way they should. Right. So just a
non answer. You know? Give me a quick
comment, then I go ahead. I'll keep going
through these. I mean, look. The Iranians,
have carried out,
military
and intelligence,
attacks against American interests in the Middle East.
Yep. Iran sees itself as a regional power,
and its periphery is known
Where is
the rules of engagement and where I can
have my maneuvering, etcetera. They're spying on American
forces in Dubai. I was spying on American
forces in other Gulf monarchies
because the presence of this force in the
region are
they're tasked
to carry
an offensive activities
against Iran Right. Itself.
And Iran has not, at any point, carried
out, let's say, terrorist attack in
Europe,
let alone inside The United States. Now I
am open, by the way, for
for for discussion, for an for for debate
about this, that whether or not this would
help Iran. Because this is the one zero
one of what I learned in in in
my college, in my university,
when we study political science and international relations
or try to analyze the situation is,
who benefits?
Who benefits from this?
Like, what is the,
what is the point of Iran carrying
carrying a terrorist attacks through slipper cells inside
The United States?
It delegitimizes
its cause.
Right. It paints it as a terrorist country.
Meanwhile, Iran has been the one who was
showing lots of self restraint to the point
that the people who were pro access officers
started calling Iran,
like, what are you doing? Basically, people started
criticizing
Iran for showing lots of self restraint and
patience, what they call the strategic patience in
the region.
And until this moment when there is an
existential threat against them, they have not carried
out terrorist attacks
against the American interest in the region. Remember,
they have assets in the region. They could
carry a car bomb. They could carry a
big explosion somewhere
against American forces or not or against civilians
if they like to. Why would they come
to The United States? It makes no sense
strategically, politically, and also their reputation.
But
the easy thing to do is you paint
your enemy
as reckless,
as crazy nutjobs. They are religious fanatics.
It's all projection.
It's a projection of what they are. They're
projecting it on Iran. When they say they
are religious nutjobs,
I'm not a Muslim, but I have lived
among
the Shia,
Shia people for three years.
And I was respected. I was protected by
them.
And at no point,
any person
humiliated my dignity or religious beliefs.
And there were churches
in Shia neighborhoods. You have a big Christian
community inside Iran, but they try to
portray Iran as this crazy
fanatic nut job. So you strip this player
of its sanity.
You call it, like, the Hitler of the
everybody is a Hitler of the twenty first
century.
Then any action carried out,
under false flag operation, for example, you could
accuse your your enemy and say that they're
the ones who are carrying these attacks because
those are crazy people. Right? But the crazy
people are the ones
who are in charge in Washington, DC nowadays.
They are in charge in Tel Aviv, and
they're in charge in Syria, for example. Those
are truly crazy nut jobs who truly
believe in some religious fanaticism,
who chop off people's heads. But Donald Trump
sprays him with a perfume
when he comes to the White House. I
think this tells you everything you need to
know about
this so called and alleged
Yeah.
Like, we we have the moral high ground.
You know?
We in America, we have the moral high
ground. You politicians do not have any moral
high ground. Believe me. Like, especially the Epstein
class, they don't have any moral high ground.
I think the world has become very, very
much aware of that. Now I I I
believe we only have, like, a little bit
time left. So let me just play one
more thing for you, and then we could
wrap on this last statement. Do you have
enough time for that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Perfect.
So, basically, just wanted to show this, which
I find interesting on the timing of all
this. So that was the second. Right? You
have them basically, some people claiming that Texas
was the sleeper cells. There's no evidence really.
A report came out showing that the White
House sort of blocked the warning report that
was supposed to go around. I felt like
that was sort of like
a trying to draw attention to it. I'm
not sure how that wrap worked out, but
it's interesting. Iran's maybe activating sleeper cells. We
saw on the night that was going around.
Even Grok will tell you that there's no
publicly confirmed evidence at all. It seems to
be suspicions from the government. It just seems
kind of like an obvious setup. Here's what
Trump said. I'll pretty much end with that.
We've got threats of drone stealing and
Oh, Alex Jones.
Oh, you know, it's all coming down. He
he says
response from these people. This is what he
said. Iran sleeper cells that could be inside
The US right now. I have been, and
a lot of people came in through Biden
with this stupid open border.
But we know where most of them are.
We've got our eye on all of them,
I think.
If it doesn't
They came in through the open border policies
of sleepy Joe Biden,
one of the worst the worst president in
the history of our country.
And we've got our eyes on all of
them, but the war itself is being
prosecuted at a level that nobody's seen.
Okay. So if he knows if they know
where they are and they have an eye
on them, so they they can't carry on
any attacks. Right? This is what he said.
This is what I understood from him. I
guess. Or or that he's watching them talk
about it. I mean, you know They're they're
watching them to carry on the attack.
Yes. You know, it's just it's it's and
it's also just a nothing answer. Just we're
strong. Shut up. You know? But final thoughts
on the way out. I know you have
limited time. The final thoughts on, like, you
know, where this goes, sleeper cells, the Iran
false you know, the unjustified start of it.
You know? Just give me your final thoughts
on where this goes, and hopefully, we can
connect again. I think for a false flag
is definitely a possibility. However,
what Iranians have done basically today, I wrote
an article called Iran's Samsung option.
And Iran's Samsung option is not nuclear weapons.
It is actually the straight off rumors. And
through blocking the straight off rumors and choking
the,
basically, the flow of the fuel and energy
resources to the outside world, I think,
this was more effective
in creating the conditions,
to
hit or
give a strong blow to the to
the American strategy and Israeli strategy in the
region through economic means rather than through,
the missiles
that have been raining over Israel and other
countries in the region. I think what the
Iranians have found now
that,
they found themselves in a situation where they
enjoy leverage over The United States after they
were being pounded for,
in the past two years,
jointly via the Americans and the Israelis in
this case. And once the existential
threat
emerged against them and they
basically blocked the straight of humors and blinded
the frontline
spying
technologies of The United States, they saw the
vulnerability
in the in the empire. So once you
see any vulnerability
in the empire, you don't want to strike
a ceasefire agreement until,
you come to a new, terms on the
security architecture in the region. I think the
Iranians are,
hitting the The United States where it hurts
the most, the energy prices, and they're trying
to turn the public against him inside The
United States through this economic means. They don't
need
attacks inside terrorist attacks inside The United States
to turn the people or to turn the
situation upside down. You only need for the
fuel prices to increase and increase and increase
until the people will be fed up with
this war. And I think the Americans know
it very well.
I suspect this is just my opinion. Another
week. Give it another week, and you will
see that the Americans want to withdraw from
this, and they want to withdraw from this.
Witkoff is offering a ceasefire agreement now. But
will not accept.
Will accept
the military cessation of hostilities,
but they will continue choking the Strait Of
Hormuz until
they
reach to a new level of deterrence against
The US and Israel and also new security
architecture in the region, which would give Iran
its basically
rightful,
right because any power has a rightful right
to have its influence in the region and
or at least its independence.
Iran wants to stay independent and not part
of the Abraham Accords of the greater Israel
project. And I think for the first time,
and please correct me if I'm wrong, since
World War two, I haven't seen The US
and Israel jointly receiving this type of blow
that would show clearly with our objective eyes
that there is a limit for the US
empire, and this was the limit. And from
now on, we will see that The US
will retreat in from from certain files because
the military power is not the only means
that you can achieve your,
expansionist
aspirations in the region. There is history at
there are different factors. There is history. There
is politics. There is, economics, and there is
the psychology of the people that the American
decision makers thinks when you have big guns,
then you can impose your will on the
rest of the world. But that's not how
things work nowadays in the twenty first century.
So I think this was a great lesson,
and this had to be this had to
happen.
It's a wake up call for America also
to go back and do America first, which
would help Americans
and would help us immensely also in the
in the region.
Well, thank you for that very insightful discussion.
I really hope people will pay attention. I'll
end with saying that I agree with you
entirely. I don't think that in any way
Iranian sleeper cells or any form of act
like that in in it benefits them at
all whether seen or not. In fact, I
think that's obvious what that benefits, and I
expect that to go that route in some
false flag direction based on the obvious point
that that helps Israel and The United States,
just like the gassing in in in Syria
was not Assad that was created for the
same purpose. You know, this is old and
tired. This is old hat, guys. They've done
this over and over. So thank you for
your insight, brother, and I hope we can
talk again soon. Thank you so much, Javier.
Thank you so much. Everybody out there question
everything. Come to your own conclusions.
Stay vigilant. Brzezinski was the strategist for Jimmy
Carter and convinced Jimmy Carter to say, look.
The Russians are dominating,
Afghanistan
with a civilian secular government. Let's create Al
Qaeda.
Let's back Osama bin Laden and give his
supporters
weapons to begin fighting the Russians.
And, we can pull a coup d'etat there.
And, the Russians will fight back. And then
we'll say the Russians invaded. And it worked.
Saudi Arabia made a deal with America that
they would push the Wahhabi,
extremists,
the Al Qaeda, the most right wing wing
of Islamic parties, and it worked. Essentially, Al
Qaeda
is a contract army for The United States.
Well, the same thing was happening
in in Russia. What Brzezinski
wrote was that America is faced with a
possibility
of not being able to rule the world
unilaterally.
Any country's
economic ability to be self sufficient
means,
potential
military power. And in order to prevent any
country from threatening America militarily,
you have to prevent it from developing economically.
The American nightmare, Brzezinski wrote, was that Russia
would get together with Germany
and with Western Europe, creating Russian raw materials,
German industry, and somehow, finally, Russia would become
westernized.
America,
under Berchinsky's
strategy, said this would be a disaster because
if Russia's westernized,
if it becomes democratic,
if if,
Europe and Russia are prosperous,
then we cannot control them anymore and they
will have no reason to be NATO. We've
got to stop Russia and the place to
stop this Russian European
conglomeration
is to split it right at the border,
down Ukraine. Let's do in Ukraine what, we
did in Afghanistan.
Let's, back the crazies. Well, most of them
are,
the the former, neo Nazi groups that have
been,
so prominent.