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already happening. What the hell? You could step

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up the passion. It's happening.

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the wheel of chaos. Have happened. Now the

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another episode of what the hell is happening.

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Always a great time to talk about what

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the hell is going on with all the

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chaos in the world today. Oh, you know

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what? I actually I forgot we have our

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new intro. I wanted to play this clip

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something interestingly with what we start. We ended

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up last time saying something very interesting that

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I'm sure many of you are already thinking

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about since Charlie's done a couple interviews in

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the fact, but here's how we ended last,

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last when was this?

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January. Right? I believe. Here's the end of

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the interview.

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Good to see you, Ryan. I'll check-in. We'll

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I'll have I'll have plenty to report back

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after,

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after Mexico. I'm sure. Hopefully, there's no weird

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events like last time, weather events or whatever

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else. I hope you, you know, stay safe

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out there. Well, I always like to throw

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it throw a little curveball our way, but

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we're we're resourceful. We always find a way

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It is pretty crazy. Right? Charlie, how are

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Well, in this case, to be fair,

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this wasn't necessarily

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directed at the people of Anarkapulco.

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So and it was happening elsewhere, and it

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happened a couple days after the event. Actually,

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on the Sunday

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following the event ending on Friday.

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I say event ending. There were events going

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on Saturday and Sunday at the convention center

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as well, but they were it was dollar

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related. So so I I, yeah, I I

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you know, I had a fantastic week

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leading up to that, and I I got

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just because I was scheduled to, and everything

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kicked off the day after. But,

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the pyrotechnics

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that that happened,

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you know, it was it was funny because

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we had some of the greatest investigative journalists

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in the area. So as soon as it

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kicked off on Sunday morning,

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there. Josh Sigurdson from World Alternative Media lives

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there. He's just came out of his house,

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and it was going on. Dan Dix from

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Press for Truth, they were down there. So

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they just grabbed their gear and went out

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filmed what was happening. And what was happening

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of anybody who was

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caught in that. But

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the them pulling people off the bus, lining

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them up, and shooting them all. That didn't

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happen. And what didn't happen with cab drivers

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getting dragged out and shot and and and,

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convenience stores, the equivalent of, like, a seven

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eleven in Mexico, they were lit on fire,

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but they all all three of those components

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have relationships with the cartel.

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and convenience stores at the behest of or

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approval of the cartels in Major League Baseball.

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the cartels decide that they have

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it's time to to do a little show

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of force,

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then maybe your convenience stores and your cabs

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and your buses get burned down, but that's

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the cost of doing business. But but what

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didn't happen was they didn't destroy

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the tourism industry by going into the hotels

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and taking people out in the lobbies and

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and doing all the things that they they

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could have done. So in in some respects,

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which is good. I'm glad. I I as

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opposed to it being the real thing.

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you know, you don't know. You don't know

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how long it's gonna go, and the rumors

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were they're going to the hotels. They're gonna

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start doing that. So

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so it was an interesting time to be,

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paying attention to,

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you know, the that sort of street theater.

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I wasn't there. I'm glad I wasn't there.

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but, you know, I knew

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it two dozen people who were still there

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having to deal with that sort of situation

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and and and the chaos that comes with

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it. So I guess it's a reminder to

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everybody. You know, everything's normal

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until it's not.

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and you are thrust into chaos,

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situation immediately. And that is tough to do,

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especially if you're in a foreign a foreign

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land. But I think it was probably,

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ultimately,

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maybe a good thing for anybody who sort

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of experienced that. It's a it's it's a

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dress rehearsal for for what can happen when

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when the lights go off or the power

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goes off or or or chaos sparks because

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it doesn't take too long for people to

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to looting.

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out of food in a couple of days,

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they'll make some decisions that they wouldn't normally

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do. So it's it's it's just another reminder

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about how fragile things can be and how

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how how normal

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is always kind of an air quotes and

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that that is subject to change,

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pretty much on a moment's notice. And, you

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know, those out there that would be driven

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to loot,

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first of all, you know, people in positions

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like that, if desperate, anybody I think could

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get to that position, but it shows you

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an early position like that or the time,

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you know, that that's somebody who wasn't prepared.

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That's a lesson for this. Right? Like, you

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wouldn't need to be rushing out to loot

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for things you might need if not because

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of what's coming tomorrow or what they said

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might happen, but just because you're always prepared,

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because you have water and resources and things

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you have you know, like, it's important thing

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to think about. But when you say about

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theater, how how and what to what end?

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this whole thing? So I would like what

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in your mind, what actually went down? And

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and compared and comparing

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to both the mainstream alternative and mainstream coverage

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of what they claimed happened, you know, what's

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your insight on that and how you see

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it going down? And and if it was

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theater,

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you know, to what end, by whom? You

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know, how do you see that?

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gets whacked,

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you have to retaliate.

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how that retaliation

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is framed because

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there's ways in which you can let the

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world know that you're angry and that you're

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not gonna stand for this, which is I

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think what they did.

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can burn your bridge after you've crossed it

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and take the you know, and and and

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really sort of fight if if the cartels

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wanted to fight with the Mexican government

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and make things untenable for the government, they

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would destroy the tourism industry, and they could

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have done that that day. That that would

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have been near six and a half million

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people that come through just Puerto Vallarta every

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year. So even if it was just limited

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to Puerto Vallarta, which it wasn't, it was

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happening elsewhere.

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in, you know, just the economic catastrophe. So

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we've got that going on. And so when

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I say theater, I mean, if the cartel

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doesn't respond,

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that's a sign of weakness on their part.

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Right? So they do have to respond in

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a way that the cartel recognizes violence, fires,

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explosions. And by the way, to be fair,

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the cars exploding, they're exploding because their tires

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are blowing out. Right? It's not like they

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were rigged with c four and they were,

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you know, they were lit on fire. They

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were made to to catch on fire, but

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they weren't rigged with, like, detonators and, you

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know, things like that. The point being that

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they're doing this to to demonstrate a response,

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but knowing that they don't wanna do it

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to where it will cause some kind of

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larger spin out by sort of just, like,

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you know, pushing back slightly. So do you

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think that that is so you you so

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you see it as genuinely that the China

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bomb, you know, the president of Mexico

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took this action unilaterally because of whatever reasoning

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was, and the cartel just responded. You don't

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see any influence? Sure. Don't know if it

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was unilateral.

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I don't know if they're like, how do

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you see this playing in the larger sphere?

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Because a lot of the conversation and this

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is not for those that are new to

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this conversation, this is not some kind of

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let's just

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find a way to tie in the elements,

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you know, like Israel, United States. There's a

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wildly clear documented track record of US and

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Israel training cartel members as I know you

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know, way back to I mean, even before,

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but, you know, the most notorious in regard

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it slipped my mind all of a sudden.

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They made Netflix documentaries about him.

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The cartel, the pre El Chapo?

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God, it's so crazy to me. The one

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most famous,

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the Netflix did a whole thing about him.

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It doesn't matter. I'm sure everyone knows what

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I'm talking about. The the one of the

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most famous, Sinaloa cartel, I believe, and the

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one and, what's his name? Not Chapo. It's

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the one that was before that. But anyway

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But anyway.

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I I swear it's so crazy that somebody

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in the chat will probably say it. My

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point is that there's documented,

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l you know, reports or interviews or, you

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know, where they're training. I mean, even Israeli

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media caught reported on Israel getting caught doing

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that. And so the conversation becomes, is this

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about some kind of a a different

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Like, right now, I think a lot of

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people are beginning to recognize that there's a

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different way the world actually works. That's a,

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like, a global thing. Right? And that's to

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this local point about whether or not there's

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involvement with the cartels, like the DEA getting

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caught in 2025

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literally helping them

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launder their money about whether this was something

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that was, like,

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maybe stopping that. And this was a response

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to try to push back on some kind

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of affecting and I'm this isn't even unique

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to US and Israel, but, like, a global

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network of control. Do you see anything that

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goes that direction, or how else do you

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see that? That's kinda what I was getting

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at. Like, the bigger

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Yeah. My my my mind immediately went to

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Eric Holder in Fast and the Furious. Pablo

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Escobar. Thank you, Gabe. I can't believe I

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didn't remember his name. Yeah. So so

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so

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immediately, I started thinking of Fast and Furious.

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Right? So so running guns into Mexico. So,

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again, it's like, oh, the cartels are setting

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off these bombs. They're committing violence. It's like,

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yeah, with the weapons that we sent them.

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Okay? And then I started to think, well,

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also Israel is sending weapons as well, and

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they're doing training. So what is that?

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What's that? So so what it isn't,

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I think what it isn't

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is it isn't the government versus the cartel.

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I don't think it's that. Right. That's the

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I think the government time ago. I think

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the government in the cartel have a mutually

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parasitic relationship. Right? They need each other, or

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maybe the government doesn't need the cartel, but

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the cartel is there, and they have to

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deal with it. They can

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and and

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so I don't see them

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as

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maybe, well, maybe they are sworn enemies, but

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I don't see that as preventing them from

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working with each other when they need to.

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So I'm always a bit

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suspicious about this. I I I have maybe

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you maybe you can help me walk

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work this out

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because we've got

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Claudia Sheinbaum

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Mhmm. President of Mexico, Jewish, yet

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her policy seemed to be very supportive of

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Palestinians, which has thrown me for a loop.

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I don't know

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what to make of that.

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The point about whether it's, you know, it's

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not just being Jewish is is not necessarily

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the tie. It's the Zionist element of the

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Jewish or Christian side of it. So I

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think that that's, you know it I but

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I go ahead. Sorry. I didn't mean to

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cut you off. No. I I

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part we should go into. Go ahead. My

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assumption is she wouldn't be she wouldn't be

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the president of Mexico if she was just

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Jewish. She'd have to be Jewish and Zionist

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to me. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

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But but to me, it would right, though.

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That's a that's the it's an important factor

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to get into because I do think that

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that's a whether Jewish or Zionist independently or,

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you know, just Jewish or just sign, that

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there's there's there's are elements of manipulation from

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the outside. Yeah. And I think that does

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matter. Like, that's the that's the people out

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there that wanna to argue that the Zionist

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discussion or Israel is devoid of a Jewish

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element are lying as well. Right? So I

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think it's always important to highlight that, but

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keep please continue your point. Yeah. So I

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I'm

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you know, I wondered about this

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since it didn't break off into

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a

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continued

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escalation of violence,

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that that it that it felt kinda like

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pro wrestling.

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And and and and, look, you can get

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hurt for real when you're fake wrestling.

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So it it's it's not to be it's

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not it's not that, oh, all of this

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is fake. No. It's it's real, but it's

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controlled. Controlled aggression. It's controlled bombs. You know?

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It's we're gonna and we see this a

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lot in war too. Like, oh, they launched

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a drone strike against

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Iran, and Iran has to retaliate. They have

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to retaliate, but maybe they retaliate by saying,

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we're gonna send a missile tomorrow at 02:00PM

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and and hit this place right here. Make

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sure everybody's out. Don't you agree that's what

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happened last time? Like, I feel like there

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was reports that that's ultimately what happened, but

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then Israel just took advantage of it at

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the after the agreed kind of back and

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forth. That's what it looked like last time.

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Right. What a what a surprise. So so,

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yeah, I am always

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looking for whatever is under the surface. Right?

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The the the

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the obvious is the cartels versus the government.

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Right. But we know that there's more than

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that. So I guess I'm wondering

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I guess I'm wondering

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how this plays into

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Israel's

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pretty I don't know if they've come out

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and publicly stated this, but but for those

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of us who have been paying attention,

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there has been a pivot to South America

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by the Israelis. They're they're they're they're, you

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know, we're starting to hear about Patagonia and

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we're obviously with Argentina and Malay. And and

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and Venezuela

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got gets gets, Maduro removed, and then they

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normalize relationships

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with,

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with Israel immediately and start selling their oil

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to Israel immediately. And so you say, okay.

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So Israel is definitely looking like

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Operation Condor two. I don't know. They're they're

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they're they've got theirs their eyes set on

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South America, and and and I would say

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Central America as well. So so is this

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just the beginning

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of

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sort of the

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Pax Judaica in

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the Western Hemisphere.

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Well, I think that's exactly what I think

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we have to always remember is it's not

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one or the other. I mean, we can

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I think we should and and have in

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the past discussed which one might be more

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guiding the other between The US and Israel?

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That's an important conversation because who's to say?

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I think I have my opinion. But I

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think, you know, both of these agendas are

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the same today. Right? So it's clear that

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The US has had this Monroe doctrine sort

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of our hemisphere perspective for a really long

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time. Right? And clearly, that's kind of ebbed

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and flowed. I mean, I think it's never

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really stopped, but the narratives have changed. Today,

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it's just gone. Hey. Like, it's just it's

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crazy how on the yeah. I think it's

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I think what Israel's driving through this administration

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is to make all of this happen. Like,

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I think Netanyahu personally feels that his window

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is closing on when he can effectively make

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all this happen. And so Iran's his wet

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dream of Iran is literally taking place, and

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I think he his calculus is, well, we

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have to bring Lebanon immediately involved because otherwise,

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we might get this, but then Lebanon will

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still be there. And I think Netanyahu feels

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that he might be losing power soon, and

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that that's what Israel's saying. And so I

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think all of this is sort of mashing

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this into one large agenda. I think it

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has to do with the AI direction, the

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control grid, Right? Re rare earth minerals, Venezuela,

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lithium, I've go you know, golden oil as

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well. And I think that's what this is.

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And so I think you're right, though. But

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I think the Israel sort of focusing might

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just be that all of this is their

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common agenda at this point. And I think

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or or or you could argue that this

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was always what Israel wanted, and they're driving

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The US to do it. Right? But it's

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at this point, I just see it as

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one thing, one conglomerate. You know? And I

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do that's why so I think you're right.

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But I just see it as, like, part

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of the larger ongoing agenda of mashing

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their kind of religious Zionist prophetic

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agenda with this kind of AI control structure.

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It's kind of, like, all in one thing.

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I mean, look. They're building a Gaza Freedom

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City technocratic control structure in Gaza, which right

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there is your overlapping point. You know? Yeah.

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Really quickly before I get past it, just

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to make sure that it wasn't confusing before,

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the I couldn't remember Pablo Escobar's name. And

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the point is that's the Medellin Cartel, different

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location, but the point is you can see

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them funding all of these different cartels. Like,

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you can see them funding the the Rwanda

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conversation. You can see them funding with in

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regard to the Bosnia genocide. It's It's not

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a secret. Just in case that was my

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point was just trying to remember all the

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different evidences showing that they're, like, literally on

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almost on the surface working to arm the

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very people that the government's outwardly saying is

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the bad guy we're fighting. The history like

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that is so ridiculous. And so that's what

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I'm wondering back to you that kind of

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full circle to what you just said is

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if this was in some way

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maybe manufactured involvement with her to get some

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kind of outcome. But the way I felt

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that made sense when I first saw it

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because Sean Sean and Bob, have you seen

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as you as you pointed out, has been

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pretty resistant

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in a lot of ways, health wise more

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than most, like pushing back on the GMO

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corn discussion on a lot of their kind

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of, you know, the bio overlap.

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But I've I'll I see things as well

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that maybe wonder whether there's more collaboration. So

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I wondered whether this was her just deciding

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to kind of just, you know, maybe cut

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off the head of the snake in regard

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to how they manipulate Mexico, if that's the

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way you read that. You know? I thought

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that was an interesting thought, and we should

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be considering that. So, you know, any thoughts

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on that? And then, like, how do you

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see this? Like, do you feel like anything

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changed? And, you know, what else to add

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to this that you saw? Because you were

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there. You know? Least that you were there

525
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during certain points, and then you've talked to

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a lot of people that were there as

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it was happening. You know? Well,

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I yeah. I I

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I

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just keep wondering

531
00:17:15,934 --> 00:17:17,714
if, you know, she ran the gauntlet

532
00:17:18,289 --> 00:17:20,929
and survived the 30 other politicians that got

533
00:17:20,929 --> 00:17:23,089
killed. It's not like you just lose the

534
00:17:23,089 --> 00:17:24,950
the race in Mexico. It's like

535
00:17:25,490 --> 00:17:27,109
they hang you from the bridge.

536
00:17:27,569 --> 00:17:28,069
So

537
00:17:29,569 --> 00:17:31,234
I wonder, You know, I just wonder how

538
00:17:31,234 --> 00:17:33,075
much you you how much power you really

539
00:17:33,075 --> 00:17:34,914
have once you get into that position. You

540
00:17:34,914 --> 00:17:37,794
know? You're you're constantly reminded that you're one

541
00:17:37,794 --> 00:17:39,974
step away from them blowing up your motorcade

542
00:17:40,115 --> 00:17:41,014
or, you know,

543
00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:43,154
shooting you and you're grabbing your kids or

544
00:17:43,154 --> 00:17:45,095
whatever. I mean, so Yeah. I do not

545
00:17:45,369 --> 00:17:47,369
curious too, though. Like, think about that, Americans.

546
00:17:47,369 --> 00:17:49,049
Imagine that's how this country operates too, and

547
00:17:49,049 --> 00:17:50,809
we just don't let ourselves see that, like

548
00:17:50,809 --> 00:17:52,909
an Epstein point or anything else. You know?

549
00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:55,210
Of course. I think that's a calculus that

550
00:17:55,210 --> 00:17:57,230
most people need to to,

551
00:17:57,609 --> 00:17:59,710
put use, you know, to

552
00:18:00,505 --> 00:18:02,825
run through their internal filter when when they

553
00:18:02,825 --> 00:18:03,884
start seeing people

554
00:18:04,664 --> 00:18:06,424
saying and doing things that they don't normally

555
00:18:06,424 --> 00:18:08,265
say. It's like, well, have you considered that

556
00:18:08,265 --> 00:18:11,005
maybe they've been pulled aside and threatened? Because,

557
00:18:11,944 --> 00:18:13,384
you know, you're gonna make a decision. Let's

558
00:18:13,384 --> 00:18:14,825
say you're gonna vote one way or another

559
00:18:14,825 --> 00:18:15,804
and you're a senator.

560
00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:17,940
You know, you're

561
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,640
you may have to make a vote simply

562
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,880
because you wanna stay alive. Your or your

563
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,319
family wants to stay alive, and you can

564
00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:25,759
be dismissive of that, and you go, oh,

565
00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:26,500
you guys.

566
00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,220
This is big boy politics.

567
00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:31,404
This is the type of of games where

568
00:18:31,404 --> 00:18:33,164
people go missing all the time or their

569
00:18:33,164 --> 00:18:34,565
cars blow up or things like this is

570
00:18:34,684 --> 00:18:36,444
they're not playing around. So when it comes

571
00:18:36,444 --> 00:18:38,044
down to this, I think that people need

572
00:18:38,044 --> 00:18:39,024
to always remember.

573
00:18:39,565 --> 00:18:41,484
Now you may get into politics for all

574
00:18:41,484 --> 00:18:43,440
the right reasons and think you're gonna change

575
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,440
things and go in there with a good

576
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,160
heart. But like Putin said, you know, when

577
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,380
they asked him, can you

578
00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:51,839
work with Donald Trump again? He says, I've

579
00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:54,240
worked with plenty of American presidents. They all

580
00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,559
have these grand ideas when they come into

581
00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:58,484
office, and then they get a visit in

582
00:18:58,484 --> 00:18:59,845
the White House from the men in black

583
00:18:59,845 --> 00:19:01,365
suits, and then all those ideas go out

584
00:19:01,365 --> 00:19:03,045
the window. And and and, of course, I

585
00:19:03,045 --> 00:19:04,644
think when people hear that, they go, oh,

586
00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:05,144
yeah.

587
00:19:05,525 --> 00:19:08,424
CIA. Right? No, man. That's Chabad.

588
00:19:08,965 --> 00:19:11,279
That's the the Chabad guys in black suits

589
00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:13,052
that show up with their hats, and then

590
00:19:13,052 --> 00:19:15,045
you they take all your all your good

591
00:19:15,045 --> 00:19:16,817
ideas, and they go, that's nice. We're not

592
00:19:16,817 --> 00:19:18,590
doing any of those. From now on, you

593
00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:20,583
work with work for us. And so I

594
00:19:20,583 --> 00:19:22,356
I think that people need to to remember

595
00:19:22,356 --> 00:19:24,349
that that's a thing. I mean and and

596
00:19:24,349 --> 00:19:26,122
by the way, Putin saying that, I don't

597
00:19:26,122 --> 00:19:27,304
I don't I don't

598
00:19:27,605 --> 00:19:29,204
say that he's off the hook either because

599
00:19:29,204 --> 00:19:30,724
there's plenty of pictures with him with all

600
00:19:30,724 --> 00:19:32,724
those guys standing behind his desk as well.

601
00:19:32,724 --> 00:19:33,224
So

602
00:19:33,605 --> 00:19:35,284
I actually only point that out because I

603
00:19:35,284 --> 00:19:37,625
think if anyone would know, it would be

604
00:19:37,764 --> 00:19:38,264
Putin.

605
00:19:38,964 --> 00:19:40,230
And I think it's important to point out,

606
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:41,509
and then you can speak for yourself on

607
00:19:41,509 --> 00:19:43,349
this, is I I imagine we probably agree,

608
00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,190
is that that's no way to give, like,

609
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:47,509
a a passive accountability. Right? No. And and

610
00:19:47,509 --> 00:19:48,549
this and I think this is important to

611
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:50,069
think about because I I I addressed this

612
00:19:50,069 --> 00:19:51,269
the other day when it came to, like,

613
00:19:51,269 --> 00:19:52,809
even Trump. Like, let's just say

614
00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,525
it like, right now, interestingly fleshing out, and

615
00:19:55,525 --> 00:19:56,565
we can get into this when we get

616
00:19:56,565 --> 00:19:57,845
into Iran. I wanna do one more point

617
00:19:57,845 --> 00:19:59,684
about the cartel with Bondi real quick. But

618
00:19:59,684 --> 00:20:02,105
the the the point of whether he was

619
00:20:02,484 --> 00:20:05,480
tricked or or played by Netanyahu. And I

620
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,320
think that is the reality, and it still

621
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,099
does not I think Trump is still clearly

622
00:20:09,799 --> 00:20:11,880
everything that makes them like, what I think

623
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,960
he is, you know, is what he's shown

624
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,480
you throughout this administration, I think, is very

625
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,859
clear, whether or not

626
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,920
he was played into this thing with Iran.

627
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,345
You know? But the point is, if if

628
00:20:21,804 --> 00:20:23,964
ultimately Netanyahu did kinda play him using the

629
00:20:23,964 --> 00:20:25,964
threat of nukes in Iran or whatever, you

630
00:20:25,964 --> 00:20:27,484
know, it's the point would that would in

631
00:20:27,484 --> 00:20:29,585
some way remove a a level of accountability.

632
00:20:29,644 --> 00:20:31,565
Not entirely, but he, you know, you he

633
00:20:31,565 --> 00:20:33,325
felt pressured. So that is some like, it's

634
00:20:33,325 --> 00:20:34,444
not like he just woke up and goes,

635
00:20:34,444 --> 00:20:35,910
I'm gonna kill Iran because I want to.

636
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:38,330
But it's still some level of accountability. But

637
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:40,230
thinking about that in a larger sense, if,

638
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:41,670
like, say, his family is being threatened or,

639
00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:44,070
like, RFK Junior and and Israel, the comments

640
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:46,090
was, oh, he's being threatened by Israel. Okay.

641
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:48,494
Maybe. But first, let's prove that. But does

642
00:20:48,494 --> 00:20:50,575
that then make him no longer responsible? Does

643
00:20:50,575 --> 00:20:52,174
that make him no longer guilty? Like, there's

644
00:20:52,174 --> 00:20:53,775
a level of that. My point is if

645
00:20:53,775 --> 00:20:55,454
we don't know for sure, we just can't

646
00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:57,615
even consider that. Like, if there's just no

647
00:20:57,615 --> 00:20:59,134
way you can involve that in the decision

648
00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:00,815
making, we have to address what's happening. Do

649
00:21:00,815 --> 00:21:02,200
we think this is wrong or right? Do

650
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,660
we agree with why it's happening?

651
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,519
Whether he's being forced into it, first, again,

652
00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:07,960
has to be proven, but whether or not

653
00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:09,799
how does that change our lives? You know

654
00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:11,480
what I mean? No. It's We have to

655
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,400
always treat it as if regardless of whether

656
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,799
they're blackmailed. We have to stand for what

657
00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:17,934
we know is right and then address those

658
00:21:17,934 --> 00:21:19,375
consequences. You know, like, if you were Trump

659
00:21:19,375 --> 00:21:20,734
and that was happening, you should have stood

660
00:21:20,734 --> 00:21:22,914
up and said, Israel's threatening to nuke Iran,

661
00:21:22,974 --> 00:21:24,254
and they're trying to force me to do

662
00:21:24,254 --> 00:21:25,774
it. You know, maybe that would have ended

663
00:21:25,774 --> 00:21:27,375
up with them doing exactly that, but that

664
00:21:27,375 --> 00:21:29,694
threat is always still there. By not addressing

665
00:21:29,694 --> 00:21:31,549
it, you let that threat continue to guide

666
00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:33,549
the world and control everything else. That doesn't

667
00:21:33,549 --> 00:21:35,630
seem like good math to me. You know?

668
00:21:35,630 --> 00:21:37,549
And and by putting yourself in a position

669
00:21:37,549 --> 00:21:40,430
where you can get compromised, you it's your

670
00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:43,365
own fault too. Like, hey, Bobby Kennedy. You

671
00:21:43,365 --> 00:21:45,684
know, Israel's gonna whack me if they well,

672
00:21:45,684 --> 00:21:47,045
maybe you shouldn't have put yourself in a

673
00:21:47,045 --> 00:21:48,805
situation where you gave them the evidence that

674
00:21:48,805 --> 00:21:50,164
they needed to put you in that in

675
00:21:50,164 --> 00:21:52,585
that spot. So so, again, there's there's responsibility

676
00:21:52,884 --> 00:21:54,244
on both ends. And you knew the job

677
00:21:54,244 --> 00:21:55,605
was dangerous when you took it. If you

678
00:21:55,605 --> 00:21:58,309
decide to become a a United States senator,

679
00:21:58,369 --> 00:22:00,789
god forbid, the president of The United States,

680
00:22:01,250 --> 00:22:03,410
you have to understand. If I know it,

681
00:22:03,410 --> 00:22:04,769
you know it. That you have put your

682
00:22:04,769 --> 00:22:06,929
entire family in danger by doing that. And

683
00:22:06,929 --> 00:22:07,429
now

684
00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:09,555
you have to play a game of not

685
00:22:09,634 --> 00:22:11,154
stepping on the mind on the minds in

686
00:22:11,154 --> 00:22:12,434
the mind field and hope that you don't

687
00:22:12,434 --> 00:22:13,575
blow yourself to smithereens.

688
00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:16,355
But this but, again, do I have sympathy

689
00:22:16,355 --> 00:22:17,735
for those people? Zero.

690
00:22:18,355 --> 00:22:20,835
None. I I don't care what Lindsey Graham

691
00:22:20,835 --> 00:22:22,195
did in the past to put him in

692
00:22:22,195 --> 00:22:24,029
this situation. He is a

693
00:22:24,490 --> 00:22:26,109
traitor. Right? So so,

694
00:22:26,569 --> 00:22:27,069
again,

695
00:22:27,609 --> 00:22:30,329
the the the the Israelis or the Russians

696
00:22:30,329 --> 00:22:32,890
or the whoever, they manipulated me into doing

697
00:22:32,890 --> 00:22:35,130
it. Okay. Well, it's still you doing it.

698
00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:37,964
It's still your fault for being, you know,

699
00:22:37,964 --> 00:22:39,345
being able to be manipulated.

700
00:22:39,805 --> 00:22:41,484
And and so yeah. Sure. I get it

701
00:22:41,484 --> 00:22:43,265
that other people are exerting

702
00:22:43,805 --> 00:22:47,005
undue influence on you, but, like, let's not

703
00:22:47,005 --> 00:22:49,345
pretend that this is something that just started

704
00:22:49,404 --> 00:22:52,009
yesterday. This has been going on forever. If

705
00:22:52,009 --> 00:22:53,710
you get into this world of politics,

706
00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:55,690
you're in it because you're in it for

707
00:22:55,690 --> 00:22:57,849
some personal reasons. You're in it because it

708
00:22:57,849 --> 00:22:58,509
gives you,

709
00:22:59,049 --> 00:23:01,210
you know, everything that you want, money, power,

710
00:23:01,210 --> 00:23:04,490
ego, fame, fortune, women, kids, whatever it is

711
00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:06,088
you're into, they'll give it to you. But

712
00:23:06,088 --> 00:23:07,723
there's a price that comes with it. You

713
00:23:07,723 --> 00:23:09,358
don't get to you don't get to pick

714
00:23:09,358 --> 00:23:10,993
the songs that they play, man. You just

715
00:23:10,993 --> 00:23:12,629
have to dance. If you're if you're Trump,

716
00:23:12,629 --> 00:23:14,264
you gotta get out there and you dance,

717
00:23:14,264 --> 00:23:15,899
but you do not get to pick the

718
00:23:15,899 --> 00:23:17,534
songs. And and if and if he ever

719
00:23:17,534 --> 00:23:19,170
complains about not getting to pick the music,

720
00:23:19,170 --> 00:23:21,509
I have zero sympathy for him. Because, again,

721
00:23:21,970 --> 00:23:23,650
you knew the job was dangerous when you

722
00:23:23,650 --> 00:23:25,170
took it, and you you decide to get

723
00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:27,170
into these and you make decisions that impact

724
00:23:27,170 --> 00:23:28,930
people's lives. So if if if you make

725
00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:30,850
the wrong decision and some bad guy whacks

726
00:23:30,850 --> 00:23:33,355
you, oh, well. I just don't have sympathy

727
00:23:33,355 --> 00:23:35,194
for these people at this point. Well, and,

728
00:23:35,194 --> 00:23:36,875
like, the point you're making, that's if we

729
00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:38,234
knew they were compromised. But, see, we're at

730
00:23:38,234 --> 00:23:39,115
a point where we don't even know that

731
00:23:39,115 --> 00:23:40,234
for sure. So now they get whacked, and

732
00:23:40,234 --> 00:23:41,515
now we won't even know for sure whether

733
00:23:41,515 --> 00:23:43,035
they were compromised or you know, it's like

734
00:23:43,035 --> 00:23:44,634
we just have to go at this with

735
00:23:44,634 --> 00:23:46,234
what we know we can prove and and

736
00:23:46,234 --> 00:23:47,519
what we know is right. I mean, this

737
00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,200
go back to basics, guys. Same point I

738
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,119
make with constitutional rights and everything, fire in

739
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,880
the theater. We need to go hardcore back

740
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,640
to basics. It's clear how these things are

741
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,320
being used against us. You know? And I

742
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,080
think I think that, like, I really do

743
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,839
genuinely believe that that's how this works right

744
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:01,539
now. And I think that's what's so confounding

745
00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:03,494
for this whole system is that it seems

746
00:24:03,894 --> 00:24:05,894
a lot of people, hopefully, the majority, are

747
00:24:05,894 --> 00:24:07,815
now starting to, you know, open their minds

748
00:24:07,815 --> 00:24:09,894
to that real possibility. I kinda framed it

749
00:24:09,894 --> 00:24:11,414
that way yesterday where, like, I think we're

750
00:24:11,414 --> 00:24:13,494
at a point where, you know, with Trump,

751
00:24:13,494 --> 00:24:14,075
you know,

752
00:24:14,694 --> 00:24:16,775
just clumsily lying about what what's going on

753
00:24:16,775 --> 00:24:17,974
in Iran. Like, I forget the last one.

754
00:24:17,974 --> 00:24:19,649
It was whatever the lie was about, you

755
00:24:19,649 --> 00:24:21,009
know, first saying that it was Iran. Oh,

756
00:24:21,009 --> 00:24:22,690
no. Now anybody could have the tomahawk. You

757
00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:24,690
know, just lies that anybody can see. You

758
00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:26,450
know? And it's like, I just hope I

759
00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:28,849
mean, Iraq, I you probably agree. I think

760
00:24:28,849 --> 00:24:30,289
it was this obvious then too. I just

761
00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:32,384
think that the situation has changed. And now

762
00:24:32,464 --> 00:24:34,224
I'm hoping, and this is what I believe,

763
00:24:34,224 --> 00:24:35,984
is that more people care about the truth

764
00:24:35,984 --> 00:24:37,505
than they do about their team. And that's

765
00:24:37,505 --> 00:24:39,184
what that point comes back to about whether

766
00:24:39,184 --> 00:24:41,345
they're compromised. It ultimately comes back to identity

767
00:24:41,345 --> 00:24:43,345
politics. It says you care more about the

768
00:24:43,345 --> 00:24:45,424
person, the team, than you do about whether

769
00:24:45,424 --> 00:24:46,710
or not the, you know, the outcome which

770
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:48,809
you're actually fighting for is is the endpoint.

771
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:50,869
It's it's just crazy to me. Well, I

772
00:24:50,869 --> 00:24:52,009
wonder if recently,

773
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:55,029
it seems like there has been, in in

774
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:56,970
in a way that I haven't seen since

775
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:57,929
since forever,

776
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:59,990
there's been a lot of Trump people that

777
00:24:59,990 --> 00:25:00,809
are sort of

778
00:25:01,845 --> 00:25:03,845
has he's crossed a lot their line in

779
00:25:03,845 --> 00:25:06,265
the sand for some of them. And and

780
00:25:06,484 --> 00:25:07,365
and I'm I'm glad

781
00:25:08,404 --> 00:25:10,644
I'm glad. I mean, what took you so

782
00:25:10,644 --> 00:25:12,565
long? I suppose everybody's got a different line,

783
00:25:12,565 --> 00:25:14,500
and and maybe if you if you voted

784
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,339
for him and you you desperately wanted to

785
00:25:16,339 --> 00:25:18,900
believe it, maybe maybe just you were willing

786
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:19,400
to

787
00:25:19,859 --> 00:25:20,839
allow him

788
00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:23,220
to lie on the campaign trail about a

789
00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:24,820
million things. I'm gonna make this great. I'm

790
00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:26,599
gonna make that terrible. I mean, whatever.

791
00:25:26,984 --> 00:25:28,345
But all I need you to do is

792
00:25:28,345 --> 00:25:31,644
keep one promise, man. Do not start another

793
00:25:31,704 --> 00:25:33,865
war. We can't afford it. We don't need

794
00:25:33,865 --> 00:25:34,365
it.

795
00:25:34,744 --> 00:25:38,424
Morally, socially, economically, it's bad. It's it's just

796
00:25:38,424 --> 00:25:40,924
bad all the way around. Whatever you do,

797
00:25:41,890 --> 00:25:43,570
you give Israel money because I know you're

798
00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:45,250
gonna do it anyway. You can give them

799
00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:46,609
weapons because I know you're gonna do that,

800
00:25:46,609 --> 00:25:49,009
but just don't start the war. And then

801
00:25:49,009 --> 00:25:49,750
they do

802
00:25:50,529 --> 00:25:52,930
it, and their reasons for doing it are

803
00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:53,750
so nonsensical,

804
00:25:55,384 --> 00:25:55,964
And the

805
00:25:56,265 --> 00:25:58,744
information that they're giving us back from, I

806
00:25:58,744 --> 00:26:01,065
don't know, whether it's Pete Hegseth or Trump

807
00:26:01,065 --> 00:26:01,565
himself.

808
00:26:01,865 --> 00:26:03,865
You know, we're winning bigly. It's the most

809
00:26:03,865 --> 00:26:06,984
biggest winnest winningest winning war ever, and you

810
00:26:06,984 --> 00:26:07,589
just go,

811
00:26:08,069 --> 00:26:10,309
are these words coming out of your mouth?

812
00:26:10,309 --> 00:26:12,630
You sound like you're six, and you're just

813
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:14,390
making it up. And it feels It's that

814
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:16,809
so cartoonish at a time when you need

815
00:26:16,869 --> 00:26:19,029
serious people in the room to prevent World

816
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:21,589
War three from really kicking out. And you

817
00:26:21,589 --> 00:26:23,945
get a guy that's that that comes in

818
00:26:23,945 --> 00:26:26,125
front of a microphone and says, we've destroyed

819
00:26:26,184 --> 00:26:28,845
everything in Iran that's worth destroying. I mean,

820
00:26:29,785 --> 00:26:32,424
what a what a blatant lie. Like, I

821
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,505
almost hope that they I almost hope that

822
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:36,609
they prove him wrong after a statement like

823
00:26:36,609 --> 00:26:38,130
that, you know, but I don't Seriously. I

824
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:39,890
don't wish that, and I don't wish I

825
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:41,809
know what that means. And so I'm trying

826
00:26:41,809 --> 00:26:43,890
to be, like, a decent human being and

827
00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:44,390
not

828
00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:46,470
want, you know,

829
00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:47,990
that.

830
00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:51,755
But it's just so frustrating. I hope the

831
00:26:51,755 --> 00:26:54,575
people that are jumping off the Trump bandwagon

832
00:26:54,634 --> 00:26:57,035
in droves wake up and and realize that

833
00:26:57,035 --> 00:26:59,455
this doesn't mean that you have to support

834
00:26:59,674 --> 00:27:01,914
the blue team. You understand that you you

835
00:27:01,914 --> 00:27:04,210
don't have to pick either side here. There's

836
00:27:04,210 --> 00:27:07,730
a third option. There's many options. Mhmm. But

837
00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:09,670
but for those who are are are frustrated

838
00:27:09,809 --> 00:27:10,789
with Trump, like,

839
00:27:11,410 --> 00:27:12,549
I mean, I guess, what

840
00:27:12,929 --> 00:27:14,009
welcome to the party.

841
00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:16,674
So long. So long. Well, but but your

842
00:27:16,674 --> 00:27:17,715
point before you're too far away from it,

843
00:27:17,715 --> 00:27:19,234
though, like, what what even if a statement

844
00:27:19,394 --> 00:27:21,715
like, especially if it's accurate. Like, if he

845
00:27:21,795 --> 00:27:24,115
if they just said, which even Trump's truth

846
00:27:24,115 --> 00:27:26,434
post said, that we will now bomb, you

847
00:27:26,434 --> 00:27:28,515
know, the easy targets because they're not responding

848
00:27:28,515 --> 00:27:30,450
or whatever he made. The the point was

849
00:27:30,769 --> 00:27:33,169
everybody was like, that's a that's that's intent

850
00:27:33,169 --> 00:27:35,349
to genocide right there. You just made explicitly

851
00:27:35,490 --> 00:27:37,409
clear or war crimes at the very least

852
00:27:37,409 --> 00:27:38,769
that you're gonna target things that are not

853
00:27:38,769 --> 00:27:41,089
military targets. That's undeniably clear. We already know

854
00:27:41,089 --> 00:27:42,849
what's happened. So if Higgseth comes up and

855
00:27:42,849 --> 00:27:45,305
says we're you know, bombed everything that's not

856
00:27:45,424 --> 00:27:47,265
you know, whatever his statement was, like, there's

857
00:27:47,265 --> 00:27:48,884
no way you don't take that as

858
00:27:49,505 --> 00:27:50,805
whether like, okay.

859
00:27:51,105 --> 00:27:52,945
Either a crime of how far over the

860
00:27:52,945 --> 00:27:54,065
top it is with all the things that

861
00:27:54,065 --> 00:27:55,664
we know they're bombing, you can prove schools,

862
00:27:55,664 --> 00:27:58,220
it's like every other time, hospitals. But that,

863
00:27:58,220 --> 00:28:00,460
ultimately, that doesn't even remotely align with how

864
00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:02,940
this thing started, like, thirty seconds ago. Obviously,

865
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:04,859
even before that, no war at all. But

866
00:28:04,859 --> 00:28:07,180
now we're going, okay, limited strikes just to

867
00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:08,619
get them to the table. Oh, just to

868
00:28:08,619 --> 00:28:10,619
make sure that we can to decapitate the

869
00:28:10,619 --> 00:28:12,464
leader. Well, this has all happened. And so

870
00:28:12,544 --> 00:28:13,664
what is what are we why is he

871
00:28:13,664 --> 00:28:16,384
continuing? Bombing more places because Israel is the

872
00:28:16,384 --> 00:28:18,224
one driving this and Trump doesn't seem to

873
00:28:18,224 --> 00:28:20,224
under I mean, I'm wondering whether he's always

874
00:28:20,224 --> 00:28:21,664
been involved with that, which is where I've

875
00:28:21,664 --> 00:28:23,585
been so far, or right now with what's

876
00:28:23,585 --> 00:28:25,825
happening that he is now genuinely starting to

877
00:28:25,825 --> 00:28:27,904
recognize that he is being played by his

878
00:28:27,904 --> 00:28:28,440
own team.

879
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,440
You know? I think that's very important to

880
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,200
think about because, I mean, the recent reports

881
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,599
are whether now he's going, well, which is

882
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:35,339
so embarrassing.

883
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,119
Kushner and Whitcough told me this. What kind

884
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:39,639
of fuck I shouldn't cuss. I'm sorry. I'm

885
00:28:39,639 --> 00:28:41,319
like, I'm gonna wake up. What kind of

886
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,184
leader makes that kind of statement? You throw

887
00:28:44,184 --> 00:28:46,744
your under like, that's that is the weakest

888
00:28:46,744 --> 00:28:48,184
statement in the room. Sorry. I'm ranting now.

889
00:28:48,184 --> 00:28:50,025
But my weak go ahead. It's a weak

890
00:28:50,025 --> 00:28:52,744
statement, but good. I'm glad he threw those

891
00:28:52,744 --> 00:28:54,664
two guys under the bus. They deserve to

892
00:28:54,664 --> 00:28:56,265
have the bus drive right over them. I

893
00:28:56,265 --> 00:28:58,730
think Jared Kushner is a bad guy. I

894
00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:00,669
think he may be, you know,

895
00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:02,490
he may have some I mean, he may

896
00:29:02,490 --> 00:29:04,569
be Trump's handler in some weird sort of

897
00:29:04,569 --> 00:29:05,309
way. Imagine

898
00:29:05,929 --> 00:29:07,150
that. Imagine being

899
00:29:07,609 --> 00:29:09,470
your father in law's handler.

900
00:29:10,009 --> 00:29:12,190
Howling on Thanksgiving would be weird.

901
00:29:14,984 --> 00:29:16,424
But but the the this is

902
00:29:17,224 --> 00:29:17,964
you know?

903
00:29:20,265 --> 00:29:23,464
Do we do we take Pete Hegseth away

904
00:29:23,464 --> 00:29:25,464
in handcuffs and and drag him to The

905
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:27,420
Hague and make him answer? I mean, so

906
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:28,880
if you bombed everything

907
00:29:29,420 --> 00:29:32,400
worth bombing, then the bombing's done. Right? Exactly.

908
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,380
Right? And that next time we're not thing

909
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:36,480
that's not worth bombing by your logic.

910
00:29:37,019 --> 00:29:39,420
Right. So so okay. So now we're bombing

911
00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:39,920
things

912
00:29:40,255 --> 00:29:42,095
that aren't worth bombing, which as you said,

913
00:29:42,095 --> 00:29:43,615
is a war crime. So we could we

914
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:46,095
can lock people up for that. But I

915
00:29:46,095 --> 00:29:47,394
don't think they understand

916
00:29:48,095 --> 00:29:50,355
the perception of this from

917
00:29:50,734 --> 00:29:52,115
the general pub. I mean,

918
00:29:52,494 --> 00:29:54,734
outside of America, obviously, nobody's in favor of

919
00:29:54,734 --> 00:29:55,910
that. Why I have a hard time with

920
00:29:55,910 --> 00:29:57,769
this though because I look, I think Hegseth

921
00:29:57,910 --> 00:30:00,230
and almost everyone he's got around him are

922
00:30:00,230 --> 00:30:02,309
like are are I'm surprised they can tie

923
00:30:02,309 --> 00:30:03,670
their shoes in the morning without with with

924
00:30:03,670 --> 00:30:05,269
the way that they put this stuff forward.

925
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:07,190
Doesn't mean they're, you know there's people that

926
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:09,134
could have been more tactful about this, just

927
00:30:09,134 --> 00:30:11,535
as malicious and evil, but would have presented

928
00:30:11,535 --> 00:30:13,455
well. You know? So I'm wondering if that's

929
00:30:13,455 --> 00:30:15,455
the case, both because they're there, which I

930
00:30:15,455 --> 00:30:17,055
think is insane in the first place, with

931
00:30:17,055 --> 00:30:19,215
anybody else around all other people can see

932
00:30:19,215 --> 00:30:20,654
that there are people at the top are

933
00:30:20,654 --> 00:30:23,000
ridiculous, their own people, that either that's, you

934
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,259
know, them being there or the ongoing statements

935
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,660
driving away from even what Trump just said.

936
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,720
How do we not see that as either

937
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,799
Trump has always been on a different non

938
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:33,880
America first agenda, which is possible, or that,

939
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,644
like I said, we're literally watching them got

940
00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:39,445
like, have control over this. And and it's

941
00:30:39,485 --> 00:30:41,545
it's like hegseth is a religious Zionist.

942
00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:43,765
It's very clear. He said this out loud.

943
00:30:43,765 --> 00:30:45,205
Right? So and and Trump has made it

944
00:30:45,205 --> 00:30:46,325
clear now that a lot of these things

945
00:30:46,325 --> 00:30:47,684
that are happening like, you can go back

946
00:30:47,684 --> 00:30:49,845
to his first administration. He gave the military

947
00:30:49,845 --> 00:30:52,619
the authority to carry out orders without him,

948
00:30:52,619 --> 00:30:54,299
like, the the the higher ups. Remember that

949
00:30:54,299 --> 00:30:56,539
with the the largest non nuclear bomb? That

950
00:30:56,539 --> 00:30:58,299
that became very clear. So now we have

951
00:30:58,299 --> 00:30:59,839
this disconnect between Trump

952
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:01,980
and then the, like, leadership. So if that's

953
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:02,480
Hegseth,

954
00:31:02,779 --> 00:31:04,380
doesn't it alarm anybody that he may be

955
00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:06,274
taking directions from something other than Trump? You

956
00:31:06,274 --> 00:31:07,794
know? So my point is I'm I think

957
00:31:07,794 --> 00:31:09,575
what this is starting to show is is

958
00:31:09,714 --> 00:31:12,274
that they're that this is demonstrating the agenda

959
00:31:12,274 --> 00:31:13,554
for where it's actually being driven from. And

960
00:31:13,554 --> 00:31:14,835
you like, if you wanna argue with some

961
00:31:14,835 --> 00:31:15,575
other country,

962
00:31:15,954 --> 00:31:17,234
show me the evidence. I'm all for I

963
00:31:17,234 --> 00:31:18,755
mean, I'm all for acknowledging that. I just

964
00:31:18,755 --> 00:31:20,549
want Americans to see that this is happening.

965
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:22,269
Like, it's a pretty obvious reality that this

966
00:31:22,269 --> 00:31:24,150
is not being driven by what we think.

967
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:25,910
You know what I mean? Yeah. And we're

968
00:31:25,910 --> 00:31:28,170
starting to move into the realm

969
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:31,590
of fantasy world as opposed to actual targets.

970
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:33,190
Right? There so at first, it's like we've

971
00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:35,670
gotta get their nuclear facilities because of, you

972
00:31:35,670 --> 00:31:37,984
know, the reasons. And now it's like

973
00:31:38,684 --> 00:31:40,785
Trump was chosen by God,

974
00:31:41,244 --> 00:31:43,325
and we're on a holy mission. And it's

975
00:31:43,325 --> 00:31:45,345
like, okay. Well, then then now

976
00:31:45,644 --> 00:31:47,565
now we're in a really weird spot because

977
00:31:47,565 --> 00:31:48,845
what are you gonna do? Am I gonna

978
00:31:48,845 --> 00:31:50,845
sit you down at the negotiating table and

979
00:31:50,845 --> 00:31:52,830
say, what does god want for for I

980
00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:54,670
mean, what what does your god want in

981
00:31:54,670 --> 00:31:56,269
this discussion? You know what I mean? It's

982
00:31:56,269 --> 00:31:58,769
like, now we're we're not even dealing with

983
00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:02,029
human to human negotiations. Now you've dragged in

984
00:32:02,029 --> 00:32:04,769
an eternal spirit into this who's also

985
00:32:05,284 --> 00:32:05,784
apparently

986
00:32:06,085 --> 00:32:07,144
a real estate

987
00:32:07,605 --> 00:32:08,105
land,

988
00:32:08,964 --> 00:32:09,464
specialist

989
00:32:09,765 --> 00:32:10,585
who, you know,

990
00:32:11,365 --> 00:32:14,085
on contract law over two thousand years of

991
00:32:14,085 --> 00:32:16,164
whose land is whose, and and you start

992
00:32:16,164 --> 00:32:17,684
to get into this this world of, like,

993
00:32:17,684 --> 00:32:19,365
my god is better than your god, and

994
00:32:19,365 --> 00:32:20,505
and it's like, okay.

995
00:32:21,019 --> 00:32:22,619
This is it's all it's one thing if

996
00:32:22,619 --> 00:32:25,440
we're having this discussion in some debate somewhere.

997
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,759
Right. But it's quite another thing. We have

998
00:32:27,899 --> 00:32:29,980
carrier groups in the Persian Gulf. We have

999
00:32:29,980 --> 00:32:31,579
we have people in the Red Sea. We

1000
00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,559
have we have troops all over the place

1001
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,879
that need somebody that I mean,

1002
00:32:38,835 --> 00:32:41,394
Rumsfeld would roll over in his grave if

1003
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:43,394
he saw Pete Hegseth right now. I mean,

1004
00:32:43,394 --> 00:32:46,055
the the the weak the weird,

1005
00:32:46,595 --> 00:32:47,095
weak,

1006
00:32:47,715 --> 00:32:50,515
cartoonish leadership of him I mean, I swear

1007
00:32:50,515 --> 00:32:52,869
to god, I think they pick the people

1008
00:32:52,869 --> 00:32:53,769
for his cabinet

1009
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:56,630
based on the way they look. Like, they

1010
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:59,430
look like television parts. This that too. I

1011
00:32:59,430 --> 00:33:01,109
think it's a lot of performing role there.

1012
00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:02,730
What I mean is that they were chosen

1013
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:04,424
because they're weak,

1014
00:33:04,825 --> 00:33:06,125
because they're incompetent,

1015
00:33:06,424 --> 00:33:08,825
because they and and even worse, allowed to

1016
00:33:08,825 --> 00:33:10,825
be to think that they're at the top

1017
00:33:10,825 --> 00:33:12,825
of their game, like Akash Patel. Like, I

1018
00:33:12,825 --> 00:33:14,505
I they they seem to exude this, like,

1019
00:33:14,505 --> 00:33:17,305
self confidence that's wildly unjustified, and then their

1020
00:33:17,305 --> 00:33:17,805
actions

1021
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:20,039
believit. I think that's my point. Like, that

1022
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,960
this is, like, the end look. Here's the

1023
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,319
important thing I think I'm hoping to think

1024
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:25,259
about with the overlap of Israel's agenda.

1025
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,839
Their religious belief from a Zionist perspective is

1026
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,440
whatever you wanna call it. Religious is probably

1027
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,880
the wrong word, but the understanding of where

1028
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,480
it starts from, but that is the the

1029
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,855
West collapsing is one is one of the

1030
00:33:35,855 --> 00:33:37,294
major parts that brings on the end times,

1031
00:33:37,294 --> 00:33:38,815
and this is what people like that think.

1032
00:33:38,815 --> 00:33:39,794
And so Zionist,

1033
00:33:40,414 --> 00:33:40,914
Pegseth,

1034
00:33:41,535 --> 00:33:43,214
believes that this brings you know, that the

1035
00:33:43,214 --> 00:33:45,054
West must collapse. You know? And so this

1036
00:33:45,054 --> 00:33:46,894
I this is the these are people in

1037
00:33:46,894 --> 00:33:48,720
these positions of power, and so that might

1038
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,119
be something he's willfully driving with actions. But

1039
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:52,559
I wonder if it's that they've been placed

1040
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,039
here because this country is now bringing its

1041
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,039
I mean, look at how clearly we are

1042
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:58,880
on the decline as the government, as their

1043
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,640
actions, what they do in the world. I

1044
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,859
feel like that's being engineered,

1045
00:34:02,265 --> 00:34:04,585
like, genuinely engineered to where we are collapsing

1046
00:34:04,585 --> 00:34:06,345
in front of the world for that output

1047
00:34:06,345 --> 00:34:08,664
or, you know, maybe with Israel's perspective to

1048
00:34:08,664 --> 00:34:10,905
drive war to The United States to create

1049
00:34:10,905 --> 00:34:12,925
that kind of situation. I just wanna reiterate.

1050
00:34:13,065 --> 00:34:14,204
This is not some hypothetical

1051
00:34:14,985 --> 00:34:15,644
this is

1052
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,760
Ben the Gaveer, Smotrich, and even Netanyahu is

1053
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,079
a I mean, the Analak conversation. Like, they

1054
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,719
genuinely believe this reality. And I think we

1055
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,739
have to realize that that's not some tangential

1056
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,880
side thing. They believe that needs to happen,

1057
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,719
and they're guiding us right now through this

1058
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,585
administration. That's just terrifying. You know? Yeah. And

1059
00:34:32,585 --> 00:34:34,744
it reminds me of what Chomsky was saying

1060
00:34:34,744 --> 00:34:36,744
when he was arguing with this reporter. The

1061
00:34:36,744 --> 00:34:38,105
reporter was saying, what do you say say

1062
00:34:38,105 --> 00:34:39,464
I don't believe the things that I say?

1063
00:34:39,464 --> 00:34:41,065
And he said, no. If you believe something

1064
00:34:41,065 --> 00:34:42,664
different, you wouldn't be in the seat that

1065
00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:44,264
you're in. Oh, thank you. Right. So and

1066
00:34:44,264 --> 00:34:46,530
so with Hegseth. Like, do I think that

1067
00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:49,510
he's being manipulated by Israel? Yes.

1068
00:34:49,809 --> 00:34:52,369
But I don't know how much manipulation they

1069
00:34:52,369 --> 00:34:54,309
need to do because I think he genuinely

1070
00:34:54,530 --> 00:34:56,289
believes this stuff. And, again, he wouldn't be

1071
00:34:56,289 --> 00:34:58,289
in the position that he's in if he

1072
00:34:58,289 --> 00:35:00,050
didn't believe it because he he he fulfills

1073
00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:00,630
a couple

1074
00:35:01,925 --> 00:35:03,605
tech, ticks on the,

1075
00:35:04,005 --> 00:35:04,505
checkbox.

1076
00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:05,625
He's

1077
00:35:06,324 --> 00:35:09,045
he's controlled by Israel. You gotta have that.

1078
00:35:09,045 --> 00:35:12,025
He looks the part, and he's kinda stupid.

1079
00:35:12,405 --> 00:35:14,485
Mhmm. So you can blame him. So you

1080
00:35:14,485 --> 00:35:16,630
put these incompetent people in there, the Pam

1081
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:17,929
Bondis, Kash Patel's,

1082
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:21,909
Hegzits of the world, who look kind of

1083
00:35:21,909 --> 00:35:23,590
the part. Right? Well, maybe not Kash Patel,

1084
00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:25,449
but, yeah, they're always they looked the part,

1085
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:26,250
and

1086
00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:28,650
but they're kind of incompetent.

1087
00:35:29,235 --> 00:35:31,075
And when it falls apart or when they

1088
00:35:31,075 --> 00:35:33,015
make some dumb dumb decision,

1089
00:35:33,394 --> 00:35:35,315
which is a decision that was being made

1090
00:35:35,315 --> 00:35:37,414
for them from behind or that they were

1091
00:35:37,555 --> 00:35:39,635
influenced to make, then you can just say,

1092
00:35:39,635 --> 00:35:40,994
well, what did you expect when you got

1093
00:35:40,994 --> 00:35:42,929
a guy like Pete Hegseth on Fox News?

1094
00:35:43,089 --> 00:35:44,690
Yes. Exactly. Really gonna figure it out? I

1095
00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:46,929
mean, he's a dummy. So I think that

1096
00:35:46,929 --> 00:35:49,089
those I think that, again, it's like you

1097
00:35:49,089 --> 00:35:50,929
go through school, you get a degree, you

1098
00:35:50,929 --> 00:35:52,449
work your ass off, and you go, if

1099
00:35:52,449 --> 00:35:54,309
I'm if I'm the best in my

1100
00:35:54,609 --> 00:35:56,929
career, in my field, they'll they'll promote me

1101
00:35:56,929 --> 00:35:58,414
to the top. And then, like, you see

1102
00:35:58,414 --> 00:36:00,914
what happens in politics. It's like, let's take

1103
00:36:01,135 --> 00:36:03,295
the best. I don't want the best. We

1104
00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:06,335
can't compromise them. We can't discard them later.

1105
00:36:06,335 --> 00:36:08,175
Like, the no. Let's take kind of the

1106
00:36:08,175 --> 00:36:08,675
mediocre,

1107
00:36:08,974 --> 00:36:11,375
and let's elevate them. Right. They'll think they

1108
00:36:11,375 --> 00:36:12,659
won the lottery. They'll think,

1109
00:36:13,059 --> 00:36:14,920
I'm so smart. Look at me.

1110
00:36:15,539 --> 00:36:17,780
And then their arrogance will get them into

1111
00:36:17,780 --> 00:36:19,299
all sorts of trouble, and then we can

1112
00:36:19,299 --> 00:36:20,739
throw them away when we're done with them.

1113
00:36:20,739 --> 00:36:23,059
And and or You you could have Noam

1114
00:36:23,059 --> 00:36:25,079
or any of the rest fail upward.

1115
00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:26,280
Right?

1116
00:36:27,074 --> 00:36:28,755
Promote you after you get exposed for being

1117
00:36:28,755 --> 00:36:30,275
a criminal. You know? It's Every time. But

1118
00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:31,394
you're gonna have to have to have a

1119
00:36:31,394 --> 00:36:31,875
makeover

1120
00:36:32,195 --> 00:36:34,195
Right. After everyone. You're gonna move up a

1121
00:36:34,195 --> 00:36:36,355
a level. You've gotta get the extensions and

1122
00:36:36,355 --> 00:36:38,454
the, you know, the whole thing.

1123
00:36:39,110 --> 00:36:40,949
Well, before we go continue, I wanna get

1124
00:36:40,949 --> 00:36:42,710
into more of the Iran conversation, but this

1125
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:44,390
really does all interconnect in a lot of

1126
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:45,130
clear ways.

1127
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:48,250
On the cartel point, there was another, another,

1128
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:49,929
report that came out.

1129
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:52,409
And this this was The Independent.

1130
00:36:52,855 --> 00:36:54,215
This is just on the Newsbreak app that

1131
00:36:54,215 --> 00:36:55,974
I'm showing it here, but it The Independent

1132
00:36:55,974 --> 00:36:58,315
was the platform that reported it.

1133
00:36:58,855 --> 00:36:59,355
Trump's

1134
00:36:59,815 --> 00:37:02,135
AG, Pam Bondi, is moved to heavily guarded

1135
00:37:02,135 --> 00:37:05,035
military base after threats over Epstein files from

1136
00:37:05,175 --> 00:37:05,755
the cartels.

1137
00:37:06,614 --> 00:37:07,760
Does that make sense to you just on

1138
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,960
the title already? Like, when I read that,

1139
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,420
I'm like, wait. What? Did I misunderstand?

1140
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,559
Wait. So you're telling me that so the

1141
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:14,639
cartels are mad at Bondi for the way

1142
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,219
that she's not released the proper information?

1143
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:19,679
That makes sense. It says attorney general Pam

1144
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:21,644
Bondi's reportedly been moved to secure housing on

1145
00:37:21,644 --> 00:37:23,965
a Washington DC area apparently, like, a month

1146
00:37:23,965 --> 00:37:25,724
ago is what they're reporting, which is being

1147
00:37:25,724 --> 00:37:27,724
discovered now, and which I guess I haven't

1148
00:37:27,724 --> 00:37:29,324
seen it that much, which seems to make

1149
00:37:29,324 --> 00:37:32,125
sense. Military a military bay base, which they're

1150
00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,285
bombing these right now, after she received threats

1151
00:37:34,285 --> 00:37:35,265
from drug cartels.

1152
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,639
And those angry with her over well, here's

1153
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,039
what's interesting. And those angry with her over

1154
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:41,960
the handling handling of Epstein, it goes on

1155
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,059
to essentially make the argument that it's cartels.

1156
00:37:44,279 --> 00:37:46,039
But what's interesting to me is who would

1157
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:48,359
be mostly angry with them for not doing

1158
00:37:48,359 --> 00:37:50,299
the right thing about the files?

1159
00:37:50,704 --> 00:37:53,125
Pretty sure it's not mostly Democrats. Us. Hearing.

1160
00:37:54,784 --> 00:37:56,485
If anyone would wanna be

1161
00:37:57,105 --> 00:37:57,925
car bombing

1162
00:37:58,864 --> 00:38:00,485
Pam Bondi, it would be the

1163
00:38:01,025 --> 00:38:03,264
citizens of The United States Of America who

1164
00:38:03,264 --> 00:38:04,704
are who want would like for her to

1165
00:38:04,704 --> 00:38:05,605
do her job.

1166
00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:07,710
But I mean, I do agree. What's interesting

1167
00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:09,469
more so than anything is that right now,

1168
00:38:09,469 --> 00:38:12,110
they're manufacturing this kind of narrative about, like

1169
00:38:12,269 --> 00:38:14,030
and I do very much think, as we've

1170
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:16,190
discussed, that there's more connections there than not.

1171
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:17,010
And that they're

1172
00:38:17,309 --> 00:38:19,005
create like, I don't think that even makes

1173
00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:20,444
sense on its face. But so let's just

1174
00:38:20,444 --> 00:38:22,125
make a story where the cartels are mad

1175
00:38:22,125 --> 00:38:23,565
at Bondi because we need you to think

1176
00:38:23,565 --> 00:38:25,324
about cartel bad guys even though I'm not

1177
00:38:25,324 --> 00:38:27,324
even suggesting they're not, but clearly, it's like

1178
00:38:27,324 --> 00:38:29,565
anything else that that talk about proxies who

1179
00:38:29,565 --> 00:38:31,289
we're I think we're dealing with. And and

1180
00:38:31,289 --> 00:38:33,210
then because the Epstein files. Like, why not

1181
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:34,489
just mash it all together? Like, I just

1182
00:38:34,489 --> 00:38:35,930
don't even understand this. I think I I

1183
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:38,170
would argue this is probably entirely made up.

1184
00:38:38,170 --> 00:38:39,369
Just my gut. What do you think? I'm

1185
00:38:39,369 --> 00:38:41,449
an intern who's pulling names out. It's like,

1186
00:38:41,449 --> 00:38:42,190
Pam Bondi

1187
00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:44,119
Right. Taliban,

1188
00:38:46,094 --> 00:38:47,414
crystal meth. I don't know. We'll find a

1189
00:38:47,454 --> 00:38:49,394
we'll make a headline out of that somehow.

1190
00:38:49,454 --> 00:38:49,954
Seriously.

1191
00:38:50,414 --> 00:38:52,735
It's very strange. It's well, this is the

1192
00:38:52,735 --> 00:38:55,155
the mainstream corporate media trying to

1193
00:38:55,695 --> 00:38:56,195
to

1194
00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:58,974
to harness your righteous anger. Right? You're you're

1195
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,880
if you're angry about the hey. Well, I'm

1196
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,940
angry about the

1197
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,039
Epstein files too. And it's like, oh, the

1198
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,119
cartels and I have something in common now.

1199
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,659
They're angry about it as well.

1200
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,519
Like the like the cartels care about the

1201
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,494
Epstein file. I mean, come on. Well, I

1202
00:39:13,494 --> 00:39:14,695
have to say I don't even get how

1203
00:39:14,695 --> 00:39:16,695
that connects. Like, you know, reading through this,

1204
00:39:16,695 --> 00:39:18,534
it really just gets into, like, a just

1205
00:39:18,534 --> 00:39:21,434
this like, a broad idea, like, somehow because

1206
00:39:21,574 --> 00:39:23,114
evil people are being exposed

1207
00:39:23,414 --> 00:39:24,695
like that. Like, oh, well, it must be

1208
00:39:24,855 --> 00:39:26,054
you know, it just didn't make sense. Like,

1209
00:39:26,054 --> 00:39:28,059
I haven't even seen, you know, e either

1210
00:39:28,059 --> 00:39:30,059
way, what I think this comes back to,

1211
00:39:30,059 --> 00:39:31,739
as it says, she isn't the only Trump

1212
00:39:31,739 --> 00:39:34,059
administration official who's been moved to military bases.

1213
00:39:34,059 --> 00:39:36,159
Like, I think that they may be worried.

1214
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:37,659
Like, this may just be because they think

1215
00:39:37,659 --> 00:39:39,579
that they're because that they poke the bee's

1216
00:39:39,579 --> 00:39:40,319
nest unjustifiably

1217
00:39:40,699 --> 00:39:42,079
that now that they may be assassinated.

1218
00:39:42,454 --> 00:39:44,534
You know? And legally speaking, I don't see

1219
00:39:44,614 --> 00:39:46,775
like, they have been doing this nonstop. So

1220
00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:48,454
I think even like, I don't how does

1221
00:39:48,454 --> 00:39:50,135
how does that work in international law? So

1222
00:39:50,135 --> 00:39:52,934
if if I think a unilateral assassination is

1223
00:39:52,934 --> 00:39:54,855
clearly illegal. But if if if a if

1224
00:39:54,855 --> 00:39:56,565
a government starts a war

1225
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,119
and then that becomes and I'm I'm let's

1226
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,199
just say a well, because Comenity was, you

1227
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:02,880
know, like, assassinating the pope to in it

1228
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,400
from our perspective. Like, that wouldn't even be

1229
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,599
a military, so I don't think that's even

1230
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:07,920
a legal target. But is that legal then

1231
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,679
to assassinate the, you know, head of the

1232
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,755
other country after they've initiated war? Do you

1233
00:40:11,755 --> 00:40:13,114
know if that may if that lines up?

1234
00:40:13,114 --> 00:40:14,474
I'm not even sure. I think there's always

1235
00:40:14,474 --> 00:40:16,155
been some kind of, like, a caveat for

1236
00:40:16,155 --> 00:40:18,235
just you, like, executing the president or, you

1237
00:40:18,235 --> 00:40:19,914
know, the leader versus the I don't know.

1238
00:40:19,914 --> 00:40:21,215
You have any insight on that?

1239
00:40:21,675 --> 00:40:24,015
I I don't know from a legal standpoint.

1240
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,119
I'd it just seems like A lot. From

1241
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:28,179
a moral,

1242
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:29,380
like, from

1243
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:30,179
a

1244
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,719
we're the producers of the play. We don't

1245
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,800
kill each other. We let the actors kill

1246
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,159
each other. You know what I mean? And

1247
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:37,699
and that sort of thing. I I

1248
00:40:39,005 --> 00:40:39,985
maybe maybe

1249
00:40:40,445 --> 00:40:41,905
maybe when you're

1250
00:40:43,405 --> 00:40:43,905
doing

1251
00:40:44,285 --> 00:40:47,005
things as the American empire at the behest

1252
00:40:47,005 --> 00:40:47,664
of Israel,

1253
00:40:47,965 --> 00:40:50,045
maybe there are there's just no line in

1254
00:40:50,045 --> 00:40:52,364
the sand anymore. Maybe there's no honor amongst

1255
00:40:52,364 --> 00:40:53,585
thieves, and you do

1256
00:40:53,965 --> 00:40:56,260
whack the head of of of I mean,

1257
00:40:56,260 --> 00:40:56,739
maybe in

1258
00:40:57,940 --> 00:40:59,859
maybe you don't normally do it, but you

1259
00:40:59,859 --> 00:41:02,359
do it with Khomeini because, you know, Iran

1260
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,420
and seven countries in five years, and that's

1261
00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:05,619
the big one. Maybe you don't do it

1262
00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:07,219
well, actually, you do it to the leader

1263
00:41:07,219 --> 00:41:09,219
if you didn't bring in the COVID vaccines

1264
00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:10,744
in Africa. Right? Or how many of those

1265
00:41:10,744 --> 00:41:11,724
guys got whacked?

1266
00:41:12,505 --> 00:41:14,184
So that that said, no. We're not gonna

1267
00:41:14,265 --> 00:41:16,505
we're fine. We don't we don't need Pfizer,

1268
00:41:16,505 --> 00:41:19,385
and then the guy winds up. Right. Yeah.

1269
00:41:19,385 --> 00:41:21,385
So I I think that they're just worried.

1270
00:41:21,385 --> 00:41:22,839
I think that, you know, clearly well, like,

1271
00:41:22,839 --> 00:41:24,519
that was just a curiosity point, but I

1272
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:25,639
think, really, I don't think any of these

1273
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:27,559
governments are are I don't think any government

1274
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:29,559
in the world would truly be that worried

1275
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:31,400
about breaking international law should it be in

1276
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,079
their interest, and they recognize a way out

1277
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:34,599
of it. I that's my personal opinion. I

1278
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:36,864
think that's most governments, if not all. But

1279
00:41:36,864 --> 00:41:38,224
I think that they're just worried about that

1280
00:41:38,224 --> 00:41:39,664
kind of blowing back on them. And this

1281
00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:41,744
overlaps with the I'm sure you saw the

1282
00:41:41,744 --> 00:41:42,244
reports.

1283
00:41:42,945 --> 00:41:44,625
It's interesting the timing on this, sort of

1284
00:41:44,625 --> 00:41:46,144
like Trump and the the minds. Remind me

1285
00:41:46,144 --> 00:41:47,344
to talk about that because it's just funny

1286
00:41:47,344 --> 00:41:48,465
the way that they feel like they're setting

1287
00:41:48,465 --> 00:41:49,985
us up with these narratives. But you got

1288
00:41:49,985 --> 00:41:52,690
the arguments of, you know, there being, like,

1289
00:41:52,690 --> 00:41:54,930
a signal that they caught, that Iran was

1290
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:57,730
activating sleeper cells, which I that's certainly possible.

1291
00:41:57,730 --> 00:41:59,570
But, again, because it it's like the boy

1292
00:41:59,570 --> 00:42:01,489
who cries wolf. This country is like, okay,

1293
00:42:01,489 --> 00:42:03,170
guys. Like, they how many times have they

1294
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:04,530
told us aliens are real in the past,

1295
00:42:04,530 --> 00:42:06,309
like, six years? We're like, whatever, man.

1296
00:42:07,144 --> 00:42:08,284
Just move on.

1297
00:42:08,905 --> 00:42:10,684
Yeah. That that was

1298
00:42:12,425 --> 00:42:13,625
that was one of the things I had

1299
00:42:13,625 --> 00:42:14,984
a a tweet about that. Let me see

1300
00:42:14,984 --> 00:42:16,764
if I can find it because

1301
00:42:17,224 --> 00:42:18,684
when when they they said

1302
00:42:19,224 --> 00:42:19,724
the

1303
00:42:20,510 --> 00:42:21,809
the story was,

1304
00:42:22,429 --> 00:42:22,929
that

1305
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:24,829
well, let me let me see if I

1306
00:42:24,829 --> 00:42:26,750
can find it here. Oh, good. Well, what

1307
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:28,190
I what I find interesting about all this

1308
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:30,030
is the timing, obviously. You know? But is

1309
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:32,289
it possible? Of course, it is. And and

1310
00:42:32,405 --> 00:42:34,324
from Veron's perspective, because we know that they're

1311
00:42:34,324 --> 00:42:35,605
doing it to them, that it would even

1312
00:42:35,605 --> 00:42:37,364
make sense. You know? And and it's illegal

1313
00:42:37,364 --> 00:42:38,405
no matter how much you spend it. I

1314
00:42:38,405 --> 00:42:39,684
mean, that's what's funny to me is that

1315
00:42:39,684 --> 00:42:41,764
it is illegal based on any understanding of

1316
00:42:41,764 --> 00:42:44,244
international law, you know, to what but our

1317
00:42:44,244 --> 00:42:46,809
CIA, they they're proudly, you know, like, we've

1318
00:42:46,809 --> 00:42:48,570
steal, we cheat. We while we cheat, we

1319
00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:50,809
steal Pompeo. It's just a funny this perspective

1320
00:42:50,809 --> 00:42:52,570
we have of ourselves or rather the government

1321
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:54,730
does of its own actions. But the recent

1322
00:42:54,730 --> 00:42:56,409
report was that there were sleeper cells in

1323
00:42:56,409 --> 00:42:58,349
Iran, and now there was a follow-up report

1324
00:42:58,644 --> 00:43:00,485
basically saying that they were they've been activated,

1325
00:43:00,485 --> 00:43:02,565
essentially. And then that's just kinda spun out

1326
00:43:02,565 --> 00:43:04,565
in the mainstream alternative media with

1327
00:43:04,965 --> 00:43:07,125
Sean Ryan, in in, like, the last discussion,

1328
00:43:07,125 --> 00:43:09,125
you know, the the the drones sniffing or

1329
00:43:09,125 --> 00:43:11,204
the sniffing bomb drones in Iran and the

1330
00:43:11,204 --> 00:43:12,769
same that it was all a bunch of

1331
00:43:12,769 --> 00:43:14,289
hype, and they got caught faking that email

1332
00:43:14,289 --> 00:43:15,489
and the whole damn thing. You know? It

1333
00:43:15,489 --> 00:43:17,650
doesn't mean it's not possible, but just recognize

1334
00:43:17,650 --> 00:43:18,849
how often they try to lie us into

1335
00:43:18,849 --> 00:43:20,449
these things. Go ahead. Well, this was the

1336
00:43:20,449 --> 00:43:22,849
the tweet from ABC News. The US has

1337
00:43:22,849 --> 00:43:24,469
intercepted encrypted communications

1338
00:43:24,849 --> 00:43:27,409
believed to have originated in Iran that may

1339
00:43:27,409 --> 00:43:27,704
serve,

1340
00:43:28,344 --> 00:43:30,025
and I just said I laughed too. Believed

1341
00:43:30,025 --> 00:43:31,704
to have is code for we made it

1342
00:43:31,704 --> 00:43:33,224
up. Oh, that's fine. I did see you

1343
00:43:33,224 --> 00:43:34,825
tweet that. I think that that probably is

1344
00:43:34,825 --> 00:43:35,945
what set in my mind when I went

1345
00:43:35,945 --> 00:43:37,625
through have you read the entire article? It

1346
00:43:37,625 --> 00:43:38,765
is cartoonish.

1347
00:43:39,144 --> 00:43:41,144
It's like, it you know, we we believe

1348
00:43:41,144 --> 00:43:43,440
we've discovered something that may have been this,

1349
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,039
and we and it could have taken place

1350
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:46,880
at this time, and what might have like,

1351
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,839
literally, like, six different versions of extending this.

1352
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:51,519
Basically, the headline should have been something we're

1353
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:52,719
not sure about that we don't know where

1354
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,559
and when, but maybe. Like, that's literally the

1355
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:55,219
whole story.

1356
00:43:55,695 --> 00:43:57,695
My favorite that they didn't use in this

1357
00:43:57,695 --> 00:43:59,695
article, but they they probably saved it for

1358
00:43:59,695 --> 00:44:02,195
another one is people close to the president's

1359
00:44:02,335 --> 00:44:05,454
thinking said. Yeah. Yeah. What's that? You go,

1360
00:44:05,454 --> 00:44:06,195
oh, okay.

1361
00:44:06,575 --> 00:44:08,735
Good. So it's a random guy's opinion about

1362
00:44:08,735 --> 00:44:11,699
what Trump may think. Great journalism. It's clear,

1363
00:44:11,699 --> 00:44:13,300
like, as we know and hopefully people know

1364
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:15,140
by now, this is just so somebody in

1365
00:44:15,140 --> 00:44:17,780
this in this whether, again, manufacturing consent, the

1366
00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:20,019
editor, whatever, maybe just decided to do it

1367
00:44:20,019 --> 00:44:22,420
themselves, but otherwise, guided by something, did you

1368
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:24,179
go, let's push out this narrative? Like, the

1369
00:44:24,179 --> 00:44:25,574
the you see how this works. It's a

1370
00:44:25,574 --> 00:44:27,974
threat to our democracy down every channel. Right?

1371
00:44:27,974 --> 00:44:29,734
They oh, here's the narrative, and then they

1372
00:44:29,734 --> 00:44:31,574
frame it their own slight variations. They know

1373
00:44:31,574 --> 00:44:33,094
the window in which they can operate, and

1374
00:44:33,094 --> 00:44:34,695
it ends up being the same story. There's

1375
00:44:34,695 --> 00:44:36,614
nothing to go on. I mean, has anybody

1376
00:44:36,614 --> 00:44:38,295
even really followed up other than people in

1377
00:44:38,295 --> 00:44:40,920
the IMA and independent media about, like, the

1378
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,480
the Halloween terror attack? Or I mean, I

1379
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,159
just went over this again from Alex Jones

1380
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,639
predictions. Where what is is is Leticia James

1381
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:49,639
in jail? How how about James Comey? You

1382
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:51,159
know? And the point was every one of

1383
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,239
these things were designed to fail in my

1384
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,985
mind. I said the moment they came out

1385
00:44:54,985 --> 00:44:56,264
when looking through the data, I was like,

1386
00:44:56,264 --> 00:44:57,784
this is going to fail. They set this

1387
00:44:57,784 --> 00:44:59,385
up. There's nothing to go on or or

1388
00:44:59,385 --> 00:45:01,545
the auto pen discussion. You know? It's we

1389
00:45:01,545 --> 00:45:02,985
we talked early on. Most bad guy, I

1390
00:45:02,985 --> 00:45:05,545
think, are starting to turn, but, like, think

1391
00:45:05,545 --> 00:45:07,565
about today what the actions they're taking. They're

1392
00:45:07,625 --> 00:45:09,829
lying about damn near everything. You know? Yeah.

1393
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:12,070
Well, in addition to emceeing all five days

1394
00:45:12,070 --> 00:45:14,309
of Anarkapulco, I also had a a slot

1395
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:16,730
a speaking slot. And and I used that,

1396
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:19,449
to speak about the

1397
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:22,809
rise of the independent media about and and

1398
00:45:23,494 --> 00:45:25,355
more importantly, I I talked about

1399
00:45:25,894 --> 00:45:26,875
Operation Mockingbird

1400
00:45:27,335 --> 00:45:28,394
and the influence

1401
00:45:29,175 --> 00:45:31,755
of the CIA early on and how they

1402
00:45:31,974 --> 00:45:33,894
take the narrative. And, you know, it it'd

1403
00:45:33,894 --> 00:45:34,795
be one thing

1404
00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:36,760
if the mainstream media

1405
00:45:37,699 --> 00:45:39,699
and, well, sometimes they do it, especially with

1406
00:45:39,699 --> 00:45:41,460
war. But for the most part, if they

1407
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:43,780
took a story and just completely turned at

1408
00:45:43,780 --> 00:45:46,099
one eighty, that's too much. You know, it's

1409
00:45:46,099 --> 00:45:47,699
too obvious when you do that. And so

1410
00:45:47,699 --> 00:45:49,545
I was kind of reminding the audience, like,

1411
00:45:49,704 --> 00:45:50,684
the best propaganda

1412
00:45:50,984 --> 00:45:52,664
is when you just knock it a little

1413
00:45:52,664 --> 00:45:54,264
bit off course. Right. Right. You know? Just

1414
00:45:54,264 --> 00:45:56,984
enough. And and and gradually over time, you

1415
00:45:56,984 --> 00:45:58,744
get so far away from it that you

1416
00:45:58,905 --> 00:45:59,804
there's no

1417
00:46:00,264 --> 00:46:02,664
connection to the truth at all. But but

1418
00:46:02,664 --> 00:46:03,644
that's the real

1419
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,039
key. I mean, if you wanna have proper

1420
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,119
I'm not trying to teach these lunatics how

1421
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:09,900
to lie to us better, but I mean,

1422
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:11,420
you know, you you don't

1423
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,039
don't you you don't make it so obvious

1424
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:15,900
that you're trying to throw people onto

1425
00:46:16,295 --> 00:46:17,195
onto another

1426
00:46:17,575 --> 00:46:20,055
trail. You just you just nudge. I mean,

1427
00:46:20,055 --> 00:46:21,335
the nudge unit in The UK is a

1428
00:46:21,335 --> 00:46:23,255
prime example. They actually call it that. It's

1429
00:46:23,255 --> 00:46:25,675
like, we just wanna we don't wanna totally

1430
00:46:25,974 --> 00:46:28,795
turn you into somebody else. We just wanna

1431
00:46:29,335 --> 00:46:31,015
move you or thinking just a little bit

1432
00:46:31,015 --> 00:46:33,089
off of where it currently is. Right? Right.

1433
00:46:33,150 --> 00:46:34,909
You know? And and and this is again

1434
00:46:34,909 --> 00:46:36,829
to that same point. Look at what the

1435
00:46:36,829 --> 00:46:39,389
current administration is doing. Like, I I swear,

1436
00:46:39,389 --> 00:46:40,909
I've said this so many times more than

1437
00:46:40,989 --> 00:46:42,429
I've I've seen in the past. I've said

1438
00:46:42,429 --> 00:46:43,949
this in the past, but I've never seen

1439
00:46:43,949 --> 00:46:46,025
it this much. These these guys lie about

1440
00:46:46,025 --> 00:46:47,944
things that you don't even need to lie

1441
00:46:47,944 --> 00:46:49,464
about. You know, like, in wait. And they're

1442
00:46:49,464 --> 00:46:51,704
like, why did you even like, who knows?

1443
00:46:51,704 --> 00:46:53,304
Maybe they're just so desperate or so, you

1444
00:46:53,304 --> 00:46:54,664
know but the point is they lie in

1445
00:46:54,664 --> 00:46:56,844
ways that are, like like you just said,

1446
00:46:56,984 --> 00:46:59,609
not mostly truth in a small, like, just

1447
00:46:59,609 --> 00:47:00,750
blatant, hardcore,

1448
00:47:01,130 --> 00:47:03,449
like, challenging what even the people right around

1449
00:47:03,449 --> 00:47:04,730
them would wanna say. You know? And the

1450
00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:05,710
question is why?

1451
00:47:06,329 --> 00:47:06,829
Incompetence,

1452
00:47:07,130 --> 00:47:08,730
I think that's self evident, but I do

1453
00:47:08,730 --> 00:47:10,514
think it's more than You know? Like, there's

1454
00:47:10,514 --> 00:47:12,275
such like, my like, the points we make

1455
00:47:12,275 --> 00:47:14,114
all the there are people around them, people

1456
00:47:14,114 --> 00:47:15,714
that have been doing this their entire lives

1457
00:47:15,714 --> 00:47:17,714
that know, like, that you shouldn't say that

1458
00:47:17,714 --> 00:47:18,835
or not allowing you to do it, but

1459
00:47:18,835 --> 00:47:20,675
they still do it. Trump's out there still

1460
00:47:20,755 --> 00:47:22,514
you know, in some cases, I do think

1461
00:47:22,514 --> 00:47:23,875
he's the one putting these things out. It's

1462
00:47:23,875 --> 00:47:25,469
like there's in the past, you see, like,

1463
00:47:25,630 --> 00:47:27,309
speaking to handlers, they know people that are

1464
00:47:27,309 --> 00:47:28,670
like, no. You know, this is the right

1465
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:30,190
tie. No. Say it like this. But it

1466
00:47:30,190 --> 00:47:31,469
seems like that's not as much there. At

1467
00:47:31,469 --> 00:47:33,070
the very least, they're the ones driving them

1468
00:47:33,070 --> 00:47:35,170
to do the things that, like, make Americans

1469
00:47:35,230 --> 00:47:36,670
see this. Now I don't know why that

1470
00:47:36,670 --> 00:47:38,190
would be the agenda, but, again, I think

1471
00:47:38,190 --> 00:47:39,714
it's more about kind of a, you know,

1472
00:47:39,714 --> 00:47:41,635
bringing this all down around its ankles, both

1473
00:47:41,635 --> 00:47:43,635
because of what I think the agenda is

1474
00:47:43,635 --> 00:47:45,655
about, like, the West and The US discussion,

1475
00:47:45,795 --> 00:47:47,875
but also because of the global conversation, you

1476
00:47:47,875 --> 00:47:50,594
know, about creating this massive shift of which

1477
00:47:50,594 --> 00:47:52,514
The United States, the current reality is sort

1478
00:47:52,514 --> 00:47:53,255
of the guiding,

1479
00:47:53,650 --> 00:47:56,130
you know, guidepost on, like, the current direction.

1480
00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:58,210
Right? And that's always been shifting the bricks

1481
00:47:58,210 --> 00:47:59,809
and everything. But I think what we're seeing

1482
00:47:59,809 --> 00:48:02,050
is that massive transition into the new you

1483
00:48:02,050 --> 00:48:03,489
know, well, the way I read it is

1484
00:48:03,489 --> 00:48:05,489
that the Trump the the people right now

1485
00:48:05,489 --> 00:48:07,650
in control of that direction don't wanna lose

1486
00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:09,585
that control to some other you know, that

1487
00:48:09,585 --> 00:48:11,344
Trump wants to position himself as this, like,

1488
00:48:11,344 --> 00:48:13,744
emperor king of, like, the new global order,

1489
00:48:13,744 --> 00:48:15,505
like, this globalism. You know? And so I

1490
00:48:15,505 --> 00:48:16,904
think that's what comes back to, like, why

1491
00:48:16,904 --> 00:48:18,784
a lot of this is happening. So let's

1492
00:48:18,784 --> 00:48:20,625
talk about the the Strait Of Hormuz and

1493
00:48:20,625 --> 00:48:22,420
and some of these other points. And and,

1494
00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:23,619
you know, bring up anything by the way

1495
00:48:23,619 --> 00:48:24,579
that you wanna get into. These are just

1496
00:48:24,579 --> 00:48:25,699
some of the things that I had lined

1497
00:48:25,699 --> 00:48:27,860
up. And I think what's interesting is about

1498
00:48:27,860 --> 00:48:29,380
the mind part and actually to bring it

1499
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:30,820
together what I was just talking about with

1500
00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:31,480
the propaganda.

1501
00:48:32,019 --> 00:48:33,140
It it this is so weird how I

1502
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:34,965
keep seeing this. So Trump and I I

1503
00:48:35,204 --> 00:48:36,965
my mind, this is somebody guiding this through

1504
00:48:36,965 --> 00:48:38,565
him. I don't even think he this is

1505
00:48:38,565 --> 00:48:40,244
obvious the way it's happening. Trump comes up

1506
00:48:40,244 --> 00:48:42,085
and goes, you know, there's no reason to

1507
00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:44,085
say this. There's no indication it's happening. But

1508
00:48:44,085 --> 00:48:45,445
if they put minds in the Strait Of

1509
00:48:45,445 --> 00:48:46,885
Hermos, then we're gonna have an issue with

1510
00:48:46,885 --> 00:48:47,925
that, and we're gonna have to do something

1511
00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:49,789
about it. And so, he makes a clear

1512
00:48:49,789 --> 00:48:52,289
point to say, it's not happening, but if.

1513
00:48:52,510 --> 00:48:53,010
Right?

1514
00:48:53,389 --> 00:48:55,869
Right. Like, not even twenty four hours later,

1515
00:48:55,869 --> 00:48:58,190
there's mines and reports of mines, which is

1516
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:59,949
certainly possible. Like, this is not a new

1517
00:48:59,949 --> 00:49:01,789
conversation. Right? It's happened before. This is not

1518
00:49:01,789 --> 00:49:03,710
their their controlled area. They threaten things like

1519
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:05,675
this. But why would he come out and

1520
00:49:05,675 --> 00:49:07,355
say it's not happening, but if it does,

1521
00:49:07,355 --> 00:49:08,954
and then right after all of a sudden

1522
00:49:08,954 --> 00:49:10,875
there's reports, makes you wonder whether even actually

1523
00:49:10,875 --> 00:49:11,994
our minds at this point. You know, it's

1524
00:49:11,994 --> 00:49:13,355
just like they did this, and I'm wondering

1525
00:49:13,355 --> 00:49:15,355
whether that's something that somebody being fed Trump,

1526
00:49:15,355 --> 00:49:17,039
like, even in his inner circle. You know?

1527
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:18,480
Put out a tweet saying this can't happen,

1528
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,559
and then they're, like, okay. Initiate the mind

1529
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,400
conversation. It's just how I read that. But

1530
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,880
either way, now they're using this argument to

1531
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,400
say that they're mining this and we're gonna,

1532
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,640
you know, create this conflict in the zone

1533
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,640
when I don't even think it's effectively shut

1534
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,275
down. In fact, I think you can easily

1535
00:49:32,275 --> 00:49:34,675
prove that. It's just very restricted based on

1536
00:49:34,675 --> 00:49:36,675
their threats. Like but now with the mist

1537
00:49:36,755 --> 00:49:38,135
the the actual mines,

1538
00:49:38,434 --> 00:49:40,675
they can actually argue that they're legitimately shutting

1539
00:49:40,675 --> 00:49:42,195
it down. So I'm wondering whether that's a

1540
00:49:42,195 --> 00:49:43,954
ploy. Because I I don't think Iran is

1541
00:49:43,954 --> 00:49:45,960
in the interest right now to actually, like,

1542
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:46,859
legitimately shut it

1543
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:49,159
down. I think they're playing their game with

1544
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:50,920
the threats to slow down the interest, you

1545
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,199
know, but I think if they know if

1546
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,599
they're, like, literally blockaded the pathway that that

1547
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:57,079
would become something that everybody would use to

1548
00:49:57,079 --> 00:49:58,519
go after them. You know? Just just my

1549
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:00,039
just my 2¢. You're reading the you know,

1550
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:01,167
writing on the wall. So what do you

1551
00:50:01,167 --> 00:50:03,094
think? So well, I would look at what

1552
00:50:03,094 --> 00:50:05,974
happened when the Bab El Mandeb Strait, right,

1553
00:50:05,974 --> 00:50:06,474
where

1554
00:50:06,934 --> 00:50:08,855
there there were some ships that were allowed

1555
00:50:08,855 --> 00:50:10,614
to pass through through there. We got no

1556
00:50:10,614 --> 00:50:12,454
problem with you. You're good. You go on

1557
00:50:12,454 --> 00:50:14,695
through. But if you're an Israeli flagship or

1558
00:50:14,695 --> 00:50:16,970
somebody who's an American flag or you're trying

1559
00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:18,849
to pretend like you're not, then we'll light

1560
00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:20,230
you up. And so

1561
00:50:20,849 --> 00:50:23,010
whether it's mined or not, doesn't even really

1562
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:24,150
matter at this point.

1563
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:25,670
The you're you're a target.

1564
00:50:26,530 --> 00:50:28,789
And if and for people who are unfamiliar

1565
00:50:28,930 --> 00:50:30,610
with that kink in where the Strait Of

1566
00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:31,304
Hormuz is.

1567
00:50:32,184 --> 00:50:33,545
Yeah. I I brought this up, actually. I'm

1568
00:50:33,545 --> 00:50:34,744
glad you said that too. So if you

1569
00:50:34,744 --> 00:50:36,184
guys don't remember, I've and this is such

1570
00:50:36,184 --> 00:50:38,025
an important point. Here's what he's talking about.

1571
00:50:38,025 --> 00:50:39,784
This is the Baaba Mandeb Strait, and this

1572
00:50:39,784 --> 00:50:41,704
is largely why the Yemen I think the

1573
00:50:41,704 --> 00:50:42,204
Yemen

1574
00:50:42,664 --> 00:50:44,664
Invasion occupation is happening, and then this is

1575
00:50:44,664 --> 00:50:45,824
the Strait Of Hormuz on the other side

1576
00:50:45,824 --> 00:50:47,740
of the landmass. Keep going. Yeah. So you

1577
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:50,059
you're in these maritime choke points where you

1578
00:50:50,059 --> 00:50:52,539
you force the traffic through a very tight,

1579
00:50:52,539 --> 00:50:53,039
little,

1580
00:50:53,579 --> 00:50:55,820
narrow pathway. And as long as you're good,

1581
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:57,820
as long as you have no political attention

1582
00:50:57,820 --> 00:51:00,059
with anybody and it you're you're then those

1583
00:51:00,059 --> 00:51:00,800
stay open.

1584
00:51:01,215 --> 00:51:02,894
And but you but I don't think that

1585
00:51:02,894 --> 00:51:05,135
you need to physically mind them so much

1586
00:51:05,135 --> 00:51:07,695
as just tell people certain ships are allowed

1587
00:51:07,695 --> 00:51:09,535
to go through our gang territory and certain

1588
00:51:09,535 --> 00:51:11,614
ships aren't. And if you're flying your flag

1589
00:51:11,614 --> 00:51:14,335
in our in our, through our turf, our

1590
00:51:14,335 --> 00:51:14,835
neighborhood,

1591
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:16,859
we're gonna we're gonna light you up. And

1592
00:51:16,859 --> 00:51:18,139
if you have a problem with that, then

1593
00:51:18,139 --> 00:51:19,739
you shouldn't have come through. And and and

1594
00:51:19,739 --> 00:51:20,239
that

1595
00:51:20,539 --> 00:51:21,839
that I think they can

1596
00:51:22,619 --> 00:51:24,559
then then they can negotiate

1597
00:51:25,659 --> 00:51:28,219
country by country specific instead of closing it

1598
00:51:28,219 --> 00:51:30,219
down to everybody. Why not leave it open

1599
00:51:30,219 --> 00:51:32,005
and say, you haven't been a problem with

1600
00:51:32,005 --> 00:51:34,724
us. You can go through. You allow you,

1601
00:51:34,724 --> 00:51:37,204
Bahrain, put an American base there. You're not

1602
00:51:37,204 --> 00:51:38,664
getting any of your stuff through.

1603
00:51:39,045 --> 00:51:39,545
Sorry.

1604
00:51:40,085 --> 00:51:42,025
Unless unless unless

1605
00:51:42,324 --> 00:51:43,864
maybe now we say

1606
00:51:44,699 --> 00:51:47,260
all of you Gulf Arab states that have

1607
00:51:47,260 --> 00:51:49,920
have American bases, we'll make you a deal.

1608
00:51:50,539 --> 00:51:52,460
We'll allow you safe passage through here, but

1609
00:51:52,460 --> 00:51:54,219
you gotta close all those bases. You gotta

1610
00:51:54,219 --> 00:51:55,980
get everybody out. Or just not engage in

1611
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:57,739
the ongoing war. Like, that was the last

1612
00:51:57,739 --> 00:51:59,885
statement. Right? Just Obama's anymore. Don't allow them

1613
00:51:59,885 --> 00:52:01,324
to bomb us for your countries, and we'll

1614
00:52:01,324 --> 00:52:03,405
stop bombing you. That, of course, Trump very

1615
00:52:03,405 --> 00:52:06,125
embarrassingly called a surrender, which no but I

1616
00:52:06,125 --> 00:52:07,724
mean, everyone can see that's not what happened.

1617
00:52:07,724 --> 00:52:09,244
So that that shows desperation to me. I

1618
00:52:09,244 --> 00:52:10,525
don't know how else you frame that. You

1619
00:52:10,525 --> 00:52:11,965
know? But so this is what's so important

1620
00:52:11,965 --> 00:52:13,085
to me about this, and I keep bringing

1621
00:52:13,085 --> 00:52:15,000
this up, is that, you know, exactly what

1622
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,519
you said. I think that is what I

1623
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:18,440
think this is the the the calculus. Like,

1624
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,519
they're they're thinking, we can't shut this down

1625
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:21,019
legitimately

1626
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,820
because

1627
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,699
everybody would mad at us, literally everybody, including

1628
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,680
the the the flirting with the oil price

1629
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,695
discussion and the world economy, you know? And

1630
00:52:28,695 --> 00:52:31,414
so what effectively threats, which has which has

1631
00:52:31,414 --> 00:52:33,175
happened, will bomb the ships that go through

1632
00:52:33,175 --> 00:52:34,614
or at the very least that's what The

1633
00:52:34,614 --> 00:52:36,695
US media frames as the way that they've

1634
00:52:36,695 --> 00:52:38,535
said it. And same thing saying that they're

1635
00:52:38,535 --> 00:52:40,934
going to, you know, basically threats of shutting

1636
00:52:40,934 --> 00:52:43,195
it down. And immediately, you got this entirely,

1637
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,440
like, all the western press, all the mainstream

1638
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,599
alternative media that straight up her moves has

1639
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:49,359
been shut. And I said, well, hold on.

1640
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:50,599
You know? So it was like, but I

1641
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:52,719
it's live map. It's clearly not shut. You

1642
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,079
know? Look at all the traffic, which is

1643
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:55,859
way more traffic today than it was yesterday.

1644
00:52:56,045 --> 00:52:57,164
And on top of that, this is what

1645
00:52:57,164 --> 00:52:58,925
I thought was interesting too. But it it

1646
00:52:58,925 --> 00:53:00,204
makes more sense when you look at the,

1647
00:53:01,724 --> 00:53:03,664
because on the other side of the the

1648
00:53:03,805 --> 00:53:05,485
the water area, this is a US ship

1649
00:53:05,485 --> 00:53:07,805
right here, USS Michael Murphy. But it's way

1650
00:53:07,805 --> 00:53:09,485
over here on this side. So, technically, behind

1651
00:53:09,485 --> 00:53:11,909
this gray line, that's the that's the Iranian,

1652
00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:14,289
you know, reg regional waters. And it but

1653
00:53:14,289 --> 00:53:16,690
it, you know, overlaps pretty clearly right there.

1654
00:53:16,690 --> 00:53:18,050
But so my point though is that either

1655
00:53:18,050 --> 00:53:20,769
way, if it's not shut down, then it's

1656
00:53:20,769 --> 00:53:22,369
what you think or what you said, I

1657
00:53:22,369 --> 00:53:23,650
argue. Let me get this back to where

1658
00:53:23,650 --> 00:53:24,710
it was. Hold on.

1659
00:53:25,275 --> 00:53:26,974
Because that means that, clearly,

1660
00:53:27,275 --> 00:53:29,355
it's about trying to allow it to continue,

1661
00:53:29,355 --> 00:53:31,835
but while while only hurting the people who

1662
00:53:31,835 --> 00:53:33,994
are effectively against them, which makes sense is

1663
00:53:33,994 --> 00:53:35,594
why they would wanna frame this as them

1664
00:53:35,594 --> 00:53:37,514
shutting it down for everybody. So it's always

1665
00:53:37,514 --> 00:53:38,795
like this. So which is back to the

1666
00:53:38,795 --> 00:53:41,170
point why I I want I'm starting to

1667
00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:43,250
feel that it's more likely that they haven't

1668
00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:44,769
put minds out there, but like you said,

1669
00:53:44,769 --> 00:53:46,930
either threatened it and didn't do it or,

1670
00:53:46,930 --> 00:53:48,849
ultimately, that's just something they made up, which

1671
00:53:48,849 --> 00:53:51,010
is why Trump said it weirdly. And then

1672
00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:52,450
the next, like, less than twenty four hours

1673
00:53:52,450 --> 00:53:54,284
later, there's reports from The US media claiming

1674
00:53:54,284 --> 00:53:56,684
it's already happening. Just my thought. And it's

1675
00:53:56,684 --> 00:53:58,204
just as likely that they put minds out

1676
00:53:58,204 --> 00:53:59,565
there because of what they drove them to

1677
00:53:59,565 --> 00:54:01,565
do, but it's an interesting point. Right? And

1678
00:54:01,565 --> 00:54:03,025
I think this then carries

1679
00:54:03,324 --> 00:54:05,804
carries over into the oil part of this

1680
00:54:05,804 --> 00:54:07,559
conversation. But do you have any thoughts on

1681
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:10,119
just the the, you know, discussion of the

1682
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,039
the waterways and, you know, what that might

1683
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:14,519
do? They they've got them they also have

1684
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:16,460
to sort of be mindful of their relationship

1685
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:18,599
with the other BRICS nations and what's going

1686
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:20,434
on there. And and if you're if you're

1687
00:54:20,434 --> 00:54:22,275
shutting off that whole thing, you're not just

1688
00:54:22,275 --> 00:54:22,775
impacting

1689
00:54:23,315 --> 00:54:24,594
you know? I mean, I get it. It's

1690
00:54:24,594 --> 00:54:27,155
a war, and and there it's unusual times,

1691
00:54:27,155 --> 00:54:28,934
but but you have to be

1692
00:54:29,394 --> 00:54:30,434
mindful that there's

1693
00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:34,269
you have partners that will suffer from this

1694
00:54:34,269 --> 00:54:36,030
as well, and so they may have a

1695
00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:38,750
voice in in how this plays out. And,

1696
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:41,010
of course, they understand what you're up against,

1697
00:54:41,309 --> 00:54:43,150
probably even support you

1698
00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:45,010
Mhmm. But need to

1699
00:54:47,554 --> 00:54:49,394
be careful with this. And and the Trump

1700
00:54:49,394 --> 00:54:50,694
messaging is

1701
00:54:51,394 --> 00:54:52,135
so disjointed

1702
00:54:52,514 --> 00:54:53,494
that it make

1703
00:54:53,954 --> 00:54:55,574
it makes you wonder,

1704
00:54:55,875 --> 00:54:58,514
is he being erratic on purpose to to

1705
00:54:58,514 --> 00:55:00,135
come across as as

1706
00:55:00,514 --> 00:55:01,014
as

1707
00:55:02,859 --> 00:55:04,800
kind of buffoonish and and

1708
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:07,199
Is it a tactic?

1709
00:55:07,579 --> 00:55:08,940
Yeah. Is it a tactic? I'm not I'm

1710
00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:10,380
trying I'm not I'm really trying to not

1711
00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:10,880
go

1712
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,420
12 dimensional chess here with and I and

1713
00:55:13,420 --> 00:55:14,859
I have a hard time giving them credit

1714
00:55:14,859 --> 00:55:17,119
for things. But what if? It's about

1715
00:55:17,994 --> 00:55:18,494
intentionally

1716
00:55:19,275 --> 00:55:20,335
trying to be

1717
00:55:20,875 --> 00:55:23,675
wishy washy or bad at this, which would

1718
00:55:23,675 --> 00:55:26,074
go against every component of his personality, I

1719
00:55:26,074 --> 00:55:28,315
admit. But Yeah. What if he just made

1720
00:55:28,315 --> 00:55:31,054
a calculation like, I can't stop the war.

1721
00:55:31,195 --> 00:55:32,875
But what if I just played it really

1722
00:55:32,875 --> 00:55:33,375
poorly?

1723
00:55:34,130 --> 00:55:35,489
Well, to what end, though? Flesh it out.

1724
00:55:35,489 --> 00:55:36,769
What what would you what would you think

1725
00:55:36,769 --> 00:55:38,469
that would be in it? How would that

1726
00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:39,989
better his stance?

1727
00:55:40,610 --> 00:55:41,969
I don't know. What if I was so

1728
00:55:41,969 --> 00:55:43,510
bad at this that I got the Israelis

1729
00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:44,150
whacked,

1730
00:55:44,769 --> 00:55:46,550
and then I got them off my back?

1731
00:55:46,769 --> 00:55:48,255
You know what I mean? This is a

1732
00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:50,414
cue always narrative. Right? No matter how it's

1733
00:55:50,414 --> 00:55:52,174
going, it's all if you end up where

1734
00:55:52,174 --> 00:55:54,335
it looks like he somehow hurt Israel, oh,

1735
00:55:54,335 --> 00:55:56,174
it all it was all played out to

1736
00:55:56,174 --> 00:55:57,855
make that happen. You know? I mean, that

1737
00:55:57,934 --> 00:55:59,375
that's where I that's kinda where I'm at

1738
00:55:59,375 --> 00:56:00,654
too in a lot of ways. Back to

1739
00:56:00,654 --> 00:56:02,280
the point about the threat. Where, I mean,

1740
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,440
Rubio came out and said it, basically said

1741
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,160
that Israel threatened to nuke Iran. That's why

1742
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,119
he claimed it, you know, Israel or rather

1743
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:10,280
Trump had to react. You know, that ultimately,

1744
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,119
you can see this position where, you know,

1745
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:13,719
it I mean, it makes sense. And it

1746
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:13,875
like

1747
00:56:14,835 --> 00:56:16,994
earlier point about whether it's a level of,

1748
00:56:16,994 --> 00:56:18,914
like, removing accountability, yeah, to a degree. But,

1749
00:56:18,914 --> 00:56:20,755
as you said, it's still he's there for

1750
00:56:20,755 --> 00:56:22,675
a reason. But I I think this is

1751
00:56:22,675 --> 00:56:24,355
kind of where we might be where Trump

1752
00:56:24,355 --> 00:56:25,255
is realizing

1753
00:56:25,954 --> 00:56:27,795
more than maybe he was aware that this

1754
00:56:27,795 --> 00:56:29,840
is happening, that hegseth and rubio and whatever

1755
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,280
else, that's just a thought that I had,

1756
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,559
but then that would change the way he

1757
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,079
would engage with this. And so, to your

1758
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:36,320
point, is it likely or possible that he

1759
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,160
is sort of going, okay, like, maybe I

1760
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,000
can drag this into a certain point to

1761
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,840
where that could better my stance and I

1762
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,625
can make it look like I stopped this

1763
00:56:43,625 --> 00:56:45,625
or whatever or, you know, turn I I

1764
00:56:45,625 --> 00:56:46,984
just don't see a world in which that

1765
00:56:46,984 --> 00:56:49,484
ever happens where this administration turns on Israel

1766
00:56:49,625 --> 00:56:51,784
because you're complicit in far too many things.

1767
00:56:51,784 --> 00:56:53,864
I even argue COVID nineteen and that very

1768
00:56:53,864 --> 00:56:55,829
much connects. But just the the genocide,

1769
00:56:56,369 --> 00:56:57,489
how in the world you can get away

1770
00:56:57,489 --> 00:56:59,010
from that whether you blame him or not?

1771
00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:00,530
That's you're you're already trapped in that, and

1772
00:57:00,530 --> 00:57:01,809
I think they know that. I think that's

1773
00:57:01,809 --> 00:57:03,670
now part of the angle with the Epstein,

1774
00:57:04,049 --> 00:57:06,049
you know, manipulation. Now they have them with

1775
00:57:06,049 --> 00:57:07,585
their involvement in the genocide. You know? And

1776
00:57:07,585 --> 00:57:09,985
now now they're almost forcing them to openly

1777
00:57:09,985 --> 00:57:12,065
commit the same tactics to lay cover for

1778
00:57:12,065 --> 00:57:13,664
what they did the entire time. You know?

1779
00:57:13,664 --> 00:57:14,864
But I think it's a valid point to

1780
00:57:14,864 --> 00:57:17,125
consider whether Trump may be changing his direction,

1781
00:57:17,344 --> 00:57:18,985
and he's capable of that. He showed himself

1782
00:57:18,985 --> 00:57:20,625
to be crafty like that, but it also

1783
00:57:20,625 --> 00:57:22,089
shows he's lying to you. And that's all

1784
00:57:22,170 --> 00:57:23,769
somehow okay in the moment because of the

1785
00:57:23,769 --> 00:57:25,530
outcome. It's always a guess anyway. You know?

1786
00:57:25,530 --> 00:57:27,769
But Yeah. Very valid point. Yeah. I really

1787
00:57:27,769 --> 00:57:30,010
I really always kind of am hesitant to

1788
00:57:30,010 --> 00:57:32,409
go down that path of giving Trump any

1789
00:57:32,409 --> 00:57:34,489
sort of, like, credit for doing this. But

1790
00:57:34,489 --> 00:57:35,929
I do wonder if maybe he was on

1791
00:57:35,929 --> 00:57:37,934
board or maybe he was slightly on board

1792
00:57:37,934 --> 00:57:38,675
with everything.

1793
00:57:39,135 --> 00:57:41,375
But as we get further and further down

1794
00:57:41,375 --> 00:57:43,295
with the Gaza situation, we get into this

1795
00:57:43,295 --> 00:57:45,375
and, you know, he's outwardly showing support. But

1796
00:57:45,375 --> 00:57:47,775
maybe, you know, maybe there's a conversation that

1797
00:57:47,775 --> 00:57:50,035
he, Hegzip, and Rubio have of, like,

1798
00:57:50,589 --> 00:57:52,269
they're gonna kill us all. They're gonna get

1799
00:57:52,269 --> 00:57:53,630
us all. Like, you know what I mean?

1800
00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:54,909
Like I don't know what the Rubio statement

1801
00:57:54,909 --> 00:57:56,670
was about, kind of. Like, almost giving him

1802
00:57:56,670 --> 00:57:57,409
that Like,

1803
00:57:57,710 --> 00:57:58,690
you yeah. Like,

1804
00:57:59,550 --> 00:58:01,230
it felt a little bit like, oh, oops.

1805
00:58:01,230 --> 00:58:02,530
Didn't mean to mention that.

1806
00:58:03,344 --> 00:58:04,405
Right. You know,

1807
00:58:04,784 --> 00:58:05,985
that we we did that on

1808
00:58:06,704 --> 00:58:07,684
so I wonder

1809
00:58:08,625 --> 00:58:10,485
how I wonder what percentage

1810
00:58:11,025 --> 00:58:13,844
the Trump's, Hegset, and Rubios of the world

1811
00:58:13,905 --> 00:58:14,804
are willing

1812
00:58:15,869 --> 00:58:18,349
willing participants or hostages at this point. I

1813
00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:19,949
don't know. Or like you said earlier, sort

1814
00:58:19,949 --> 00:58:21,710
of a middle ground of both where they

1815
00:58:21,710 --> 00:58:23,150
wouldn't be in that position if they didn't

1816
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:25,389
already believe in these things. But even they

1817
00:58:25,389 --> 00:58:27,469
have their own ambition. Even they you know,

1818
00:58:27,469 --> 00:58:28,909
like, this is the point about Trump, and

1819
00:58:28,909 --> 00:58:30,829
we both agree. I don't I don't see

1820
00:58:30,989 --> 00:58:32,285
I see it would have to be some

1821
00:58:32,285 --> 00:58:34,765
very, very, very tough situation for Trump to

1822
00:58:34,765 --> 00:58:35,265
decide

1823
00:58:35,724 --> 00:58:38,125
to make himself look stupid, to make himself

1824
00:58:38,125 --> 00:58:39,565
look like the weak played one in the

1825
00:58:39,565 --> 00:58:40,065
conversation.

1826
00:58:40,445 --> 00:58:41,885
I don't I think I would even borderline

1827
00:58:41,885 --> 00:58:43,805
argue he's not capable of that. I know.

1828
00:58:43,805 --> 00:58:45,805
It goes against this entire person that parties

1829
00:58:45,805 --> 00:58:47,528
to do something like that. If it's like,

1830
00:58:47,748 --> 00:58:49,726
we're all gonna die, you know, maybe. Yeah.

1831
00:58:49,726 --> 00:58:51,484
You know, it's like you could see a

1832
00:58:51,484 --> 00:58:53,242
world that might happen. And so I think

1833
00:58:53,242 --> 00:58:55,220
we we're we're both talking about this as

1834
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:56,978
you should consider these points. Because either way,

1835
00:58:56,978 --> 00:58:58,737
and this is where I'm hoping most Americans

1836
00:58:58,737 --> 00:59:00,494
are getting to, what does it show you?

1837
00:59:00,655 --> 00:59:02,015
Ever this is why I was so interested

1838
00:59:02,015 --> 00:59:03,934
in that point because no matter how you

1839
00:59:03,934 --> 00:59:06,494
read it, everyone's essentially now telling you Israel

1840
00:59:06,494 --> 00:59:08,175
is influencing this government. Right? Like, to a

1841
00:59:08,175 --> 00:59:10,575
degree you can't ignore. If ultimately the the

1842
00:59:10,575 --> 00:59:13,135
excuse to get Trump out of responsibility is,

1843
00:59:13,135 --> 00:59:14,815
well, Israel sort of pressured him, it's like,

1844
00:59:14,815 --> 00:59:16,760
well, thank you. Fine. I'll even let him

1845
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,440
get out of the accountability in that moment

1846
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,559
to be able to make as long as

1847
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,519
everybody could acknowledge that Israel is influencing, if

1848
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,460
not manipulating, if not controlling

1849
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,159
US policy. You know? It's weird how close

1850
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:28,760
and obvious we get to that point and

1851
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,925
we like, the the mainstream nature alternative just

1852
00:59:31,925 --> 00:59:33,765
cannot allow that to be acknowledged, and I

1853
00:59:33,765 --> 00:59:35,204
think we know why that is. And it

1854
00:59:35,204 --> 00:59:36,885
doesn't have to do solely with Jewish people

1855
00:59:36,885 --> 00:59:39,545
if that's what you're thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Wild.

1856
00:59:39,925 --> 00:59:41,945
How I mean, isn't it an interesting time?

1857
00:59:42,085 --> 00:59:44,085
How I mean, just October 7 forward, I

1858
00:59:44,085 --> 00:59:45,305
mean, the whole world has changed.

1859
00:59:45,739 --> 00:59:47,920
Well, I made that point during my presentation

1860
00:59:47,980 --> 00:59:49,420
as well when I put up a picture

1861
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:50,400
of the the

1862
00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:53,260
it was a compilation headshots of all the

1863
00:59:53,260 --> 00:59:54,239
major media

1864
00:59:54,699 --> 00:59:56,780
Mhmm. The high high ranking members of of

1865
00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:58,619
each of the five major media corporations with

1866
00:59:58,619 --> 01:00:00,764
the blue Jewish stars over all of their

1867
01:00:00,764 --> 01:00:02,364
faces. It's like you know, and I said

1868
01:00:02,364 --> 01:00:03,184
in the presentation,

1869
01:00:03,885 --> 01:00:04,945
if they were Catholics,

1870
01:00:05,565 --> 01:00:07,405
I'd say they were Catholics. If they were

1871
01:00:07,405 --> 01:00:09,405
Aztecs, I'd say they were Aztecs. Right. Right.

1872
01:00:09,405 --> 01:00:11,484
There's no Aztecs on that list there. Right?

1873
01:00:11,484 --> 01:00:13,585
And so so at the bare minimum,

1874
01:00:14,139 --> 01:00:16,480
we have the potential for a problem.

1875
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,559
Yeah. Well, I mean and and, of course,

1876
01:00:18,699 --> 01:00:20,780
even if your point taken well is that

1877
01:00:20,780 --> 01:00:23,260
it's any one over representation of anything, it's

1878
01:00:23,260 --> 01:00:25,500
worth considering that point. But I would add

1879
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:27,099
that, remember, the star of David is not

1880
01:00:27,099 --> 01:00:29,345
a Jewish symbol. That's a Zionist symbol. The

1881
01:00:29,345 --> 01:00:30,824
the the the menorah is the actual Jewish

1882
01:00:30,824 --> 01:00:32,505
symbol, and and orthodox Jews will tell you

1883
01:00:32,505 --> 01:00:34,585
that. So it's just important to consider both

1884
01:00:34,585 --> 01:00:36,425
of those angles. But you're right, regardless. If

1885
01:00:36,425 --> 01:00:37,864
it was all a bunch of, you know,

1886
01:00:37,864 --> 01:00:39,545
Chinese nationals, that would worry me. If it

1887
01:00:39,545 --> 01:00:40,664
was all a bunch of, you know I

1888
01:00:40,664 --> 01:00:42,985
mean, anything, religions, nationality. Like, the point is

1889
01:00:42,985 --> 01:00:44,670
that we can see influence

1890
01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:46,650
in every I mean, and it's not even

1891
01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:48,809
necessarily always nefarious. Right? Like, you can talk

1892
01:00:48,809 --> 01:00:50,570
about, you know, you have Muslims in a

1893
01:00:50,570 --> 01:00:52,570
certain area. They wanna influence that, you know,

1894
01:00:52,570 --> 01:00:54,329
that make make their area more like they

1895
01:00:54,329 --> 01:00:56,010
like. Christians do the same thing, so do

1896
01:00:56,010 --> 01:00:58,889
Jews. It should or specifically nationalities. We know

1897
01:00:58,889 --> 01:01:00,704
this happens, but we should be aware and

1898
01:01:00,704 --> 01:01:02,545
able to call out any of them if

1899
01:01:02,545 --> 01:01:04,944
it's something that is illegal, something that is

1900
01:01:04,944 --> 01:01:07,264
immoral, something that we disagree with. Of course.

1901
01:01:07,264 --> 01:01:09,585
You know? It's just weird how, obviously, one

1902
01:01:09,585 --> 01:01:11,344
angle of that has been so weaponized to

1903
01:01:11,344 --> 01:01:13,050
the point to where this is so interesting.

1904
01:01:13,050 --> 01:01:14,730
One, it started where you're not allowed to

1905
01:01:14,730 --> 01:01:16,410
talk about it, but now and I think

1906
01:01:16,410 --> 01:01:18,650
this is the Zionist agenda. It's causing people

1907
01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:21,150
who are otherwise good intentioned to actually make

1908
01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:22,969
the connection to feel like, oh, it turns

1909
01:01:22,969 --> 01:01:24,329
out it is the Jews doing all of

1910
01:01:24,329 --> 01:01:25,610
this. You know what I mean? Like, they've

1911
01:01:25,610 --> 01:01:27,764
created that drive. That's why they do that.

1912
01:01:27,844 --> 01:01:29,525
That's why I think that's so important to

1913
01:01:29,525 --> 01:01:31,444
jump in there and always make that point

1914
01:01:31,444 --> 01:01:33,444
because there's so many peep there's people that

1915
01:01:33,444 --> 01:01:36,005
are, honestly, who, you know, have good intentions

1916
01:01:36,005 --> 01:01:37,284
who have fallen for that. I see it

1917
01:01:37,284 --> 01:01:38,404
every day. And, of course, I could be

1918
01:01:38,404 --> 01:01:39,684
wrong too. You know? Yeah. No. But if

1919
01:01:39,684 --> 01:01:41,764
you allow them to convince you that all

1920
01:01:41,764 --> 01:01:44,190
Jews are bad, you're falling into their trap.

1921
01:01:44,190 --> 01:01:46,030
Right? You you're you're you're walking into the

1922
01:01:46,030 --> 01:01:48,369
trap where you say, see, we're just persecuted

1923
01:01:48,510 --> 01:01:50,269
for no good reason. It's like, no. You

1924
01:01:50,269 --> 01:01:52,530
have to be you have to be consistent

1925
01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:54,750
in your criticism. You have to give credit

1926
01:01:54,750 --> 01:01:56,505
when it's due, and you have to be

1927
01:01:56,664 --> 01:01:58,424
critical when it's due as well. And it's

1928
01:01:58,424 --> 01:02:00,344
it's just it's just I think people are

1929
01:02:00,344 --> 01:02:03,224
starting to recognize the Voltaire quote when they

1930
01:02:03,224 --> 01:02:05,304
they look around and they recognize that there's,

1931
01:02:05,625 --> 01:02:07,625
there's one group that you aren't actually allowed

1932
01:02:07,625 --> 01:02:10,089
to criticize. Isn't that interesting? And maybe maybe

1933
01:02:10,089 --> 01:02:11,929
they do have some undue influence. And if

1934
01:02:11,929 --> 01:02:14,489
they do, then we should have the discussion

1935
01:02:14,489 --> 01:02:16,429
about it. But since we're not allowed to,

1936
01:02:17,050 --> 01:02:18,409
they tell us we're not allowed to, we're

1937
01:02:18,409 --> 01:02:20,429
we're having the discussion regardless. But

1938
01:02:21,210 --> 01:02:23,210
that is kind of a bigger problem. Wait.

1939
01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:24,864
Wait a second. So it's a problem that

1940
01:02:24,864 --> 01:02:26,545
you're doing this, but now it's another problem

1941
01:02:26,545 --> 01:02:27,985
that you were not allowed to talk about

1942
01:02:27,985 --> 01:02:30,704
that you're doing this because that's now compounded.

1943
01:02:30,704 --> 01:02:32,385
So can we are we not talking about

1944
01:02:32,385 --> 01:02:34,065
if the Muslims do it? Oh, no. That'll

1945
01:02:34,065 --> 01:02:35,985
be front page headline. So I see. So

1946
01:02:35,985 --> 01:02:36,885
so now it's

1947
01:02:37,329 --> 01:02:40,050
inconsistent in how you know, so we can't

1948
01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:41,889
talk about you guys doing it, but if

1949
01:02:41,889 --> 01:02:42,949
you see coordination,

1950
01:02:43,730 --> 01:02:45,889
from this other ethnic group, well, then, yeah,

1951
01:02:45,889 --> 01:02:47,829
you gotta mention them, but just don't mention

1952
01:02:47,969 --> 01:02:50,469
those who cannot be named. So it it's

1953
01:02:50,855 --> 01:02:52,775
the the tide is turning, and, of course,

1954
01:02:52,775 --> 01:02:53,914
you and I are probably

1955
01:02:54,295 --> 01:02:55,514
thinking the same thing.

1956
01:02:56,534 --> 01:02:59,094
Are we walking into a trap? Because there's

1957
01:02:59,094 --> 01:03:01,014
never been a time when you're allowed to

1958
01:03:01,014 --> 01:03:02,934
talk about this stuff so freely and have

1959
01:03:02,934 --> 01:03:05,094
these right you know, these criticisms of them,

1960
01:03:05,094 --> 01:03:05,550
and

1961
01:03:06,030 --> 01:03:08,130
and and I wonder, alright. So

1962
01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:11,969
are they just using this as an opportunity

1963
01:03:12,030 --> 01:03:13,489
to get us all out in the open

1964
01:03:13,630 --> 01:03:14,130
on

1965
01:03:14,590 --> 01:03:16,510
camera? That's always a valid point if you

1966
01:03:16,510 --> 01:03:17,985
may, but I hear this point

1967
01:03:18,385 --> 01:03:20,224
every time things like this happen. Remember when

1968
01:03:20,224 --> 01:03:21,985
the cannabis was a huge like, you know,

1969
01:03:21,985 --> 01:03:23,825
and it still weirdly kinda stalled. It's not

1970
01:03:23,825 --> 01:03:25,744
even it's everything's so crazy. But, you know,

1971
01:03:25,744 --> 01:03:27,505
there was a momentum, and all the most

1972
01:03:27,505 --> 01:03:30,339
states are now legalizing. And everyone, everybody, because

1973
01:03:30,339 --> 01:03:31,940
this is where my, you know, T Lab

1974
01:03:31,940 --> 01:03:33,699
really kind of rooted in starting was the

1975
01:03:33,699 --> 01:03:35,699
cannabis law reform discussion. I was like, oh,

1976
01:03:35,699 --> 01:03:37,219
you guys are falling for it. They're just

1977
01:03:37,219 --> 01:03:38,900
not they're just making a list and everybody

1978
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:40,359
who who what smokes cannabis

1979
01:03:40,819 --> 01:03:42,420
is gonna round you all up. People were

1980
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:43,940
making that argument, you know, and it's yeah.

1981
01:03:43,940 --> 01:03:45,539
I said then, I guess it's possible, but,

1982
01:03:45,539 --> 01:03:47,355
you know, one, there's plenty of other ways.

1983
01:03:47,355 --> 01:03:48,954
You know, same point. So I argue it's

1984
01:03:48,954 --> 01:03:51,114
worth considering that, but to what end? You

1985
01:03:51,114 --> 01:03:52,155
know what I mean? Like, to what to

1986
01:03:52,155 --> 01:03:53,835
what? To to censor us, start doing that,

1987
01:03:53,835 --> 01:03:55,355
you know, to to round us out. Well,

1988
01:03:55,355 --> 01:03:57,034
that can happen regardless, you know, but consider

1989
01:03:57,034 --> 01:03:58,875
it. Right? Consider whether that there but I

1990
01:03:58,875 --> 01:03:59,934
would argue regardless,

1991
01:04:00,369 --> 01:04:02,050
we always and I said this during the

1992
01:04:02,050 --> 01:04:04,690
self censorship rise in the independent media. I

1993
01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:06,690
I I I took censorship head on. I'm

1994
01:04:06,769 --> 01:04:08,289
I I've allowed them to censor me because

1995
01:04:08,289 --> 01:04:09,030
I was unwilling

1996
01:04:09,409 --> 01:04:11,409
to self censor. I'm gonna say the words,

1997
01:04:11,409 --> 01:04:12,690
what I mean. You know? I'm not gonna

1998
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:14,130
say, you know, whatever, the boop boop or

1999
01:04:14,130 --> 01:04:15,824
whatever, you know, which I understand, though. Like,

2000
01:04:15,905 --> 01:04:17,505
I get why that some people chose that

2001
01:04:17,505 --> 01:04:18,864
route, and maybe they were the right maybe

2002
01:04:18,864 --> 01:04:20,224
that was the right path. But I just

2003
01:04:20,304 --> 01:04:21,905
I think it's important to air on that

2004
01:04:21,905 --> 01:04:24,144
side and everywhere. That's my point about fire

2005
01:04:24,144 --> 01:04:25,905
in a theater. It's like whatever it is,

2006
01:04:25,905 --> 01:04:27,184
we need to we need to draw that

2007
01:04:27,184 --> 01:04:29,025
line as hard on, you know, in in

2008
01:04:29,025 --> 01:04:31,260
the principle as opposed to letting the the

2009
01:04:31,420 --> 01:04:33,500
even if it's logical, drive us away from

2010
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:35,340
what we know the principle is. You know?

2011
01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:37,260
And that's just everything everywhere I see right

2012
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:38,619
now is doing that to everybody in this

2013
01:04:38,619 --> 01:04:40,940
country, drifting you away from believing in the

2014
01:04:40,940 --> 01:04:43,420
constitution, drifting away from believing in law, from

2015
01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:45,594
believing in what's moral. You know? Hit them

2016
01:04:45,594 --> 01:04:47,114
while they're down. Right? I don't want a

2017
01:04:47,114 --> 01:04:48,555
fair fight. These are things we're hearing from

2018
01:04:48,555 --> 01:04:50,555
our administration. You know? It's Yeah. It's pretty

2019
01:04:50,555 --> 01:04:51,055
sad.

2020
01:04:51,515 --> 01:04:53,295
Yeah. It's a it's a

2021
01:04:54,635 --> 01:04:56,715
don't allow them to demoralize you as well.

2022
01:04:56,715 --> 01:04:57,994
You know? There's a there's a lot of

2023
01:04:57,994 --> 01:04:59,039
this going on. I mean, if they if

2024
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:00,320
they can get you to throw your hands

2025
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,360
up in the air and say, I just

2026
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,280
give up. I submit. I just Yep. Tell

2027
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,320
me what to do. Do you want me

2028
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,920
to take the shot? Do you want me

2029
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,519
to stand on the dot or go this

2030
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:09,860
direction down the just make it all stop.

2031
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,400
You know, that's the they're almost kinda counting

2032
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,140
on you

2033
01:05:13,505 --> 01:05:15,445
getting to a point where you

2034
01:05:16,144 --> 01:05:17,905
where you give up. And and and we

2035
01:05:17,905 --> 01:05:19,744
can't do that, of course. That's,

2036
01:05:20,144 --> 01:05:22,804
it's our duty and obligation to to

2037
01:05:23,985 --> 01:05:24,804
to remain

2038
01:05:25,184 --> 01:05:26,864
strong in the in the face of this

2039
01:05:26,864 --> 01:05:28,324
insanity and to,

2040
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,679
and to never compromise ourselves. I think the

2041
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:34,539
most devious form of censorship

2042
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,239
is self censorship. I agree. You can never

2043
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:39,400
measure that. You can't quantify it. It does

2044
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,480
something to you when you know that you

2045
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,795
wanted to say something, but you didn't. You

2046
01:05:43,795 --> 01:05:45,835
held back. Like a lot of people. It

2047
01:05:45,954 --> 01:05:47,474
then once you do it once, you can

2048
01:05:47,474 --> 01:05:49,394
do it again easier and again and again.

2049
01:05:49,394 --> 01:05:50,515
And then the next thing you know, you're

2050
01:05:50,515 --> 01:05:52,355
just not being honest with anybody about who

2051
01:05:52,355 --> 01:05:54,195
you are or what you think. And and

2052
01:05:54,195 --> 01:05:55,815
then what is the point?

2053
01:05:56,289 --> 01:05:57,969
You know, what's the point? You're gonna just

2054
01:05:57,969 --> 01:06:00,449
sit in your pod and suck your thumb

2055
01:06:00,449 --> 01:06:01,809
and wait for the government to tell you

2056
01:06:01,809 --> 01:06:03,329
when you can come out or be happy?

2057
01:06:03,329 --> 01:06:04,230
I mean, I just

2058
01:06:04,929 --> 01:06:07,089
these are very flawed human beings that are

2059
01:06:07,089 --> 01:06:08,529
trying to tell us how to behave and

2060
01:06:08,529 --> 01:06:10,049
how to act in this world, and I

2061
01:06:10,049 --> 01:06:12,164
just I just have no respect for them.

2062
01:06:12,164 --> 01:06:13,925
So I don't know why the rest of

2063
01:06:13,925 --> 01:06:15,704
us just don't just stand up

2064
01:06:16,485 --> 01:06:18,005
and and tell him, you know, we're not

2065
01:06:18,005 --> 01:06:18,825
gonna take

2066
01:06:19,765 --> 01:06:22,244
moral authority from the likes of the people

2067
01:06:22,244 --> 01:06:24,405
in Washington, DC, which is not gonna do

2068
01:06:24,405 --> 01:06:26,630
it. Exactly. I mean and that's that's even

2069
01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:28,309
coming out in mainstream, for crying out loud,

2070
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:29,910
which never means honesty to me. It just

2071
01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:31,510
means that it's that obvious that they have

2072
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:33,269
to somewhat address it. But, you know, the

2073
01:06:33,269 --> 01:06:34,869
the standing of the US government in the

2074
01:06:34,869 --> 01:06:36,630
world, you know, what right do you have?

2075
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:38,230
I saw that in the in the Pentagon

2076
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:40,094
briefing. Like, where do you have to to

2077
01:06:40,094 --> 01:06:42,094
speak to anybody about morality when you the

2078
01:06:42,094 --> 01:06:44,014
girl school bombing or, you know, whatever else

2079
01:06:44,014 --> 01:06:45,855
it is. They can deny all day that

2080
01:06:45,855 --> 01:06:47,614
the world is aware. You know? It's it

2081
01:06:47,614 --> 01:06:49,295
doesn't go away anymore, and I'm glad to

2082
01:06:49,295 --> 01:06:51,155
see that. I do think this is emblematic

2083
01:06:51,215 --> 01:06:53,074
of you know, we're seeing change.

2084
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,839
Whether grudgingly or or feigned or not, it

2085
01:06:56,839 --> 01:06:58,440
is happening. And I just think that's worth

2086
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,359
pointing out is that we have been censored

2087
01:07:00,359 --> 01:07:03,000
and, you know, sidelined and suppressed. And, you

2088
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,500
know, now with AI and algorithms and financial

2089
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:07,319
attacks and lawsuits, and, I mean, all of

2090
01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:09,585
us. And yet, we're still making this happen

2091
01:07:09,585 --> 01:07:11,065
as all of it. Independent media, it's like

2092
01:07:11,105 --> 01:07:12,224
I say it all the time. That's a

2093
01:07:12,224 --> 01:07:13,985
win, guys. Take it for what it is.

2094
01:07:13,985 --> 01:07:15,505
And we this fight's never gonna be over.

2095
01:07:15,505 --> 01:07:18,224
Probably never, but that's definitely a win. Yeah.

2096
01:07:18,224 --> 01:07:20,224
I'll I'll, I'll end with a couple of

2097
01:07:20,224 --> 01:07:21,344
points I saw here, and we can, you

2098
01:07:21,344 --> 01:07:22,704
know, kind of discuss on where we think

2099
01:07:22,704 --> 01:07:24,659
this will go. But, this one of these,

2100
01:07:24,659 --> 01:07:25,699
all I can show them real quick, just

2101
01:07:25,699 --> 01:07:28,179
breaking breaking news stuff. This one was reported

2102
01:07:28,179 --> 01:07:30,659
earlier that Iran like we were discussing, Iran's

2103
01:07:30,659 --> 01:07:32,739
military warned that any ships belonging to The

2104
01:07:32,739 --> 01:07:35,139
US, Israel, or their allies passing through the

2105
01:07:35,139 --> 01:07:36,744
strait could be targeted. So you're right. I

2106
01:07:36,744 --> 01:07:38,264
mean, it's explicit now just coming out of

2107
01:07:38,264 --> 01:07:39,864
the gate and saying it. There was reports

2108
01:07:39,864 --> 01:07:42,125
now that a projectile hit a cargo ship.

2109
01:07:42,184 --> 01:07:43,784
So here we go again. Right? So is

2110
01:07:43,784 --> 01:07:46,105
this Bolton's limpet mines? Are we are they

2111
01:07:46,105 --> 01:07:47,704
faking this again? Or did Iran find a

2112
01:07:47,704 --> 01:07:49,224
reason to attack them? I mean, both are

2113
01:07:49,224 --> 01:07:51,079
very possible. You know? But I think it's

2114
01:07:51,079 --> 01:07:53,179
interesting after they after they stressed

2115
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,320
the the the mine laying conversation and they're

2116
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,940
now in in the area. Right?

2117
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:58,840
And I think, lastly, just I think it's

2118
01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,340
interesting,

2119
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,039
reports of Iran Iran's military says it will

2120
01:08:02,039 --> 01:08:04,425
hit economic targets. Banks, which, by the way,

2121
01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:05,704
are a crime. That's a that's a war

2122
01:08:05,704 --> 01:08:07,704
crime. It no matter who's doing it. Those

2123
01:08:07,704 --> 01:08:09,864
are non military targets. Right? And then this

2124
01:08:09,864 --> 01:08:12,184
one says, Iran announces the facilities associated with

2125
01:08:12,184 --> 01:08:15,224
major US technology companies. That's very relevant. Like

2126
01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:18,800
Mhmm. Amazon, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Palantir, maybe targeted.

2127
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,960
That's their AI agenda. And it says Iran

2128
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,039
says they are switching from reciprocal hits to

2129
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:25,520
continuous strikes because, you know, they're responding, which

2130
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,880
is what they've been doing since they were

2131
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,479
attacked in the first place. And now they're

2132
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:29,920
saying, you know what? They're they're not stopping.

2133
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,725
They have no legal justification. So we're we're

2134
01:08:31,725 --> 01:08:33,564
switching into full, you know, so I don't

2135
01:08:33,564 --> 01:08:36,284
think anyone has declared war essentially, but this

2136
01:08:36,284 --> 01:08:38,604
is now more than ever a direct back

2137
01:08:38,604 --> 01:08:40,524
and forth, you know, you know, war. But

2138
01:08:40,524 --> 01:08:41,805
what I think to end with is interesting

2139
01:08:41,805 --> 01:08:44,045
is, you know, all of this military targets,

2140
01:08:44,045 --> 01:08:46,125
you know, the banks. This none of this

2141
01:08:46,125 --> 01:08:48,909
was happening before they initiated this and they

2142
01:08:48,909 --> 01:08:51,070
started targeting civilian locations. They'll lie all day

2143
01:08:51,070 --> 01:08:52,909
about what Iran willing to do. The evidence

2144
01:08:52,909 --> 01:08:54,670
is not there. Look around the world. However,

2145
01:08:54,670 --> 01:08:56,350
we have the evidence of what Israel's doing

2146
01:08:56,350 --> 01:08:58,030
and what The US has always done. And

2147
01:08:58,030 --> 01:08:59,789
hey Hakseth can yet again say, we'll never

2148
01:08:59,789 --> 01:09:01,425
target civilians, and you could bring up the

2149
01:09:01,425 --> 01:09:03,984
100,000 articles of them getting caught targeting civilians

2150
01:09:03,984 --> 01:09:06,064
and then in some cases, admitting it, whether

2151
01:09:06,064 --> 01:09:07,984
mistakes or target whatever. And so what I

2152
01:09:07,984 --> 01:09:09,744
wanna point out to end is that they've

2153
01:09:09,744 --> 01:09:11,824
driven this year. Right? So whether banks get

2154
01:09:11,824 --> 01:09:14,145
targeted or or, you know, Palantir, whatever it

2155
01:09:14,145 --> 01:09:16,619
is, the US government in Israel have literally

2156
01:09:16,619 --> 01:09:18,699
driven this into a reality into reality with

2157
01:09:18,699 --> 01:09:19,199
their

2158
01:09:19,979 --> 01:09:22,380
unquestionably illegal actions. We didn't touch on it

2159
01:09:22,380 --> 01:09:23,279
today, but

2160
01:09:23,659 --> 01:09:25,260
War Powers Act hasn't been met. It wasn't

2161
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:27,199
imminent. Trump said it himself. There's no congressional

2162
01:09:27,340 --> 01:09:27,840
authority

2163
01:09:28,195 --> 01:09:29,954
or approval, and there's no authorization. So it's

2164
01:09:29,954 --> 01:09:31,635
like no matter how you spin this, this

2165
01:09:31,635 --> 01:09:33,314
is a a crime that's taking place, but

2166
01:09:33,314 --> 01:09:35,555
no different than every other government administration in

2167
01:09:35,555 --> 01:09:36,835
our past. So I just wanted your thoughts

2168
01:09:36,835 --> 01:09:38,195
on where you think that's gonna go. You

2169
01:09:38,195 --> 01:09:39,814
know? Do you think this is going to,

2170
01:09:40,289 --> 01:09:41,889
you know, like like we said, maybe Trump's

2171
01:09:41,889 --> 01:09:43,170
seeing it. Does he try to pull back?

2172
01:09:43,170 --> 01:09:44,609
Is this gonna stall out in some way?

2173
01:09:44,609 --> 01:09:46,369
Or do you think this just literally goes

2174
01:09:46,369 --> 01:09:48,130
where it seems it's gonna go? It's pretty

2175
01:09:48,130 --> 01:09:50,050
it's pretty alarming, you know, from whatever way

2176
01:09:50,050 --> 01:09:50,949
you look at this.

2177
01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:52,929
It's so funny that you'll you'll find most

2178
01:09:52,929 --> 01:09:53,750
of the Americans

2179
01:09:54,204 --> 01:09:56,225
cheering on the destruction of

2180
01:09:56,604 --> 01:09:59,564
AI data centers from Microsoft and Amazon and

2181
01:09:59,564 --> 01:10:01,324
Oracle and all it's like, oh, would you

2182
01:10:01,324 --> 01:10:02,444
like us to tell you where they are?

2183
01:10:02,444 --> 01:10:03,645
We'll get you a map. We'll draw a

2184
01:10:03,645 --> 01:10:05,404
map for you so make sure, you know,

2185
01:10:05,404 --> 01:10:07,420
you don't miss. This this is where we've

2186
01:10:07,420 --> 01:10:09,899
we've be become. You know? And and Trump

2187
01:10:09,899 --> 01:10:11,119
has nobody to blame.

2188
01:10:11,579 --> 01:10:14,140
Mhmm. He he's a second day, and he

2189
01:10:14,140 --> 01:10:16,380
had Larry Ellison and Sam Altman standing there

2190
01:10:16,380 --> 01:10:18,300
next to him pledging half $1,000,000,000,000

2191
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:19,725
to give to those guys. I don't blame

2192
01:10:19,725 --> 01:10:22,145
the Iranians for thinking we need to target

2193
01:10:22,284 --> 01:10:24,625
these tech centers as well because

2194
01:10:25,005 --> 01:10:26,765
you would be right to. And the banking

2195
01:10:26,925 --> 01:10:28,945
the banks as well. I mean, look. If

2196
01:10:29,085 --> 01:10:32,125
if if the Israelis are gonna launch missiles

2197
01:10:32,125 --> 01:10:33,485
or the Americans, I don't know who did

2198
01:10:33,485 --> 01:10:36,140
it, and blow up a 100 plus

2199
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,100
schoolchildren,

2200
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,320
then I have no problem with Tehran taking

2201
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,380
out a couple banks.

2202
01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:44,840
Well, I mean, I I I get your

2203
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,520
point, but I think what I what I

2204
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,280
what I'll continue to argue, and I'll include

2205
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,625
the school are showing that as well, you

2206
01:10:50,625 --> 01:10:53,104
know, is that I I I understand completely

2207
01:10:53,104 --> 01:10:55,265
the justification in their mind for doing it.

2208
01:10:55,265 --> 01:10:57,425
Right? And I I argue I argue, mark

2209
01:10:57,425 --> 01:10:59,024
my words, that I don't believe that they

2210
01:10:59,024 --> 01:11:00,484
will bomb a school or a hospital

2211
01:11:00,864 --> 01:11:03,029
by watch. I doubt it'll happen. But banks

2212
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:05,609
and and technology, those are still war crimes

2213
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:07,829
regardless. And they would say the same when

2214
01:11:07,829 --> 01:11:09,909
The US is targeting theirs. So I hope

2215
01:11:09,909 --> 01:11:11,349
that line doesn't get crossed because they could

2216
01:11:11,349 --> 01:11:12,869
take a stance that would show that they're

2217
01:11:12,869 --> 01:11:14,949
not falling at that level. But if they

2218
01:11:14,949 --> 01:11:16,725
do, you know, do you think The US

2219
01:11:16,765 --> 01:11:17,765
I mean, look, I don't need to ask

2220
01:11:17,765 --> 01:11:19,125
the question. They're already doing it. The US

2221
01:11:19,125 --> 01:11:20,725
and Israel do it every single time. So

2222
01:11:20,725 --> 01:11:22,405
it's justified in their mind, but I I

2223
01:11:22,405 --> 01:11:24,324
hope that line doesn't get crossed because that

2224
01:11:24,324 --> 01:11:25,925
that like, that's what we talk about with

2225
01:11:25,925 --> 01:11:27,364
what we're doing every day in this field.

2226
01:11:27,364 --> 01:11:29,604
Right? Like or whatever we discussed. You fall

2227
01:11:29,604 --> 01:11:32,359
to that level, you're the same thing. Regardless

2228
01:11:32,359 --> 01:11:33,800
of how you got driven there, you are

2229
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,920
the same thing. And I think that's an

2230
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,600
important lesson for all of this. You know?

2231
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,439
Don't lie because they do. Don't fall to

2232
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,399
that level. Integrity, principles is important. But, you

2233
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:42,920
know, I think that where it's where it

2234
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,015
may go. I I mean, that may be

2235
01:11:44,015 --> 01:11:45,454
where they feel like they have to go.

2236
01:11:45,454 --> 01:11:47,695
And, again, that will be the responsibility of

2237
01:11:47,695 --> 01:11:49,854
the people who started this illegally. That's my

2238
01:11:49,854 --> 01:11:51,715
question is, yes, you're right. The

2239
01:11:52,895 --> 01:11:54,655
you in order it it to do the

2240
01:11:54,655 --> 01:11:55,155
things

2241
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,119
that the Israelis and the Americans do, you

2242
01:11:58,119 --> 01:12:00,780
would be lowering yourself to their level.

2243
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:02,220
Right. But

2244
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,319
maybe Iran has made a calculation that this

2245
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:07,420
is the only way those people will respond.

2246
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,659
Maybe We have to. Like,

2247
01:12:11,085 --> 01:12:11,585
we

2248
01:12:12,045 --> 01:12:14,445
can't negotiate with them. You you wanna you

2249
01:12:14,445 --> 01:12:16,685
you wanna get their attention, do the things

2250
01:12:16,685 --> 01:12:18,284
to them that they do to you. Maybe

2251
01:12:18,284 --> 01:12:20,445
not schools because I agree with you. They're

2252
01:12:20,685 --> 01:12:21,824
that's not their style.

2253
01:12:22,604 --> 01:12:24,604
And I don't think that America that the

2254
01:12:24,604 --> 01:12:26,525
American or Israelis would care if you bomb

2255
01:12:26,525 --> 01:12:28,429
their schools as much as if you bomb

2256
01:12:28,429 --> 01:12:31,630
their AI centers. Probably. Yeah. And so exact

2257
01:12:31,670 --> 01:12:33,149
oh, that's actually a nice point. Right? So

2258
01:12:33,149 --> 01:12:34,989
that's the that's the chosen line to cross

2259
01:12:34,989 --> 01:12:36,829
because of how much that's clearly important to

2260
01:12:36,829 --> 01:12:38,909
them or even just the threat may actually

2261
01:12:38,909 --> 01:12:41,175
change action. Right? But, you know, it it's

2262
01:12:41,175 --> 01:12:43,414
just it's such a horrible reality because it's

2263
01:12:43,414 --> 01:12:45,655
something that is being driven into reality and

2264
01:12:45,655 --> 01:12:47,574
they may, like you said, believe that this

2265
01:12:47,574 --> 01:12:49,655
is the only path. I would still call

2266
01:12:49,655 --> 01:12:51,335
it a war crime no matter what. But

2267
01:12:51,335 --> 01:12:52,854
I I genuinely hope we don't get to

2268
01:12:52,854 --> 01:12:56,070
that that that that line being crossed. But,

2269
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:57,750
you know, I I believe that right now

2270
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:59,989
that's being all of this is being driven

2271
01:12:59,989 --> 01:13:02,310
because of this ideological push. And I think

2272
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:04,630
Iran very much sees that. And so, you

2273
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:07,270
understand the, you know, even like the Samson

2274
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:08,685
option element. You know know what I mean?

2275
01:13:08,685 --> 01:13:10,045
Like, these are things that they're this is

2276
01:13:10,364 --> 01:13:11,805
you know, how do you respond to that?

2277
01:13:11,805 --> 01:13:13,965
What do you do knowing that that line

2278
01:13:13,965 --> 01:13:16,524
is crossable for them? And that's what worries

2279
01:13:16,524 --> 01:13:18,204
me is this may become like the like

2280
01:13:18,204 --> 01:13:20,364
you said, that, well, you know, the logic

2281
01:13:20,364 --> 01:13:22,460
then becomes that we have to take irrational

2282
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,680
action. Otherwise, we will end up being removed.

2283
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,039
And it's like, you know and, again, I

2284
01:13:26,359 --> 01:13:28,199
this needs to be repeated. Like, that only

2285
01:13:28,199 --> 01:13:30,760
exists because of what's been driven by these

2286
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,180
people claiming they're fighting for freedom and liberty.

2287
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,395
You know, if you who knows? Maybe Iran

2288
01:13:35,395 --> 01:13:36,994
was the one that or maybe they have

2289
01:13:36,994 --> 01:13:38,675
this mindset of the radical, but there's no

2290
01:13:38,675 --> 01:13:40,034
evidence of that. The world does not show

2291
01:13:40,034 --> 01:13:41,555
that. Their actions do not show that. So

2292
01:13:41,555 --> 01:13:42,914
the only what we're thing we're left with

2293
01:13:42,914 --> 01:13:45,155
is looking at what the people claiming good

2294
01:13:45,155 --> 01:13:46,595
or have been doing the entire time, and

2295
01:13:46,595 --> 01:13:48,420
it proves who they actually are. You know?

2296
01:13:48,579 --> 01:13:50,340
So as always, people need to stand up,

2297
01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:52,420
call this out, you know, take the effort

2298
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:52,920
to

2299
01:13:53,619 --> 01:13:54,979
show it to other people. Right? Do what

2300
01:13:54,979 --> 01:13:56,899
actions you think makes difference. You wanna protest.

2301
01:13:56,899 --> 01:13:59,060
You wanna call your your congressman. Do it

2302
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:01,219
all. Right? But do something. Right? What what

2303
01:14:01,219 --> 01:14:02,659
do you think people should do, Charlie? What

2304
01:14:02,659 --> 01:14:04,354
do you think is the, you know, conscientious

2305
01:14:04,414 --> 01:14:06,175
objector conversation? There's a lot of stuff that's

2306
01:14:06,175 --> 01:14:08,414
been going on. You know, Mike Preisner, people

2307
01:14:08,414 --> 01:14:09,614
saying they don't wanna go. You know, like,

2308
01:14:09,614 --> 01:14:10,814
what what do you think people should be

2309
01:14:10,814 --> 01:14:13,454
doing? Well, I saw in Israel that, a

2310
01:14:13,454 --> 01:14:15,295
lot of people at Ben Gurion Airport were

2311
01:14:15,295 --> 01:14:17,234
opting for the Samsonite option.

2312
01:14:17,619 --> 01:14:20,180
Mhmm. Well, and what's this? The Samsonite option,

2313
01:14:20,180 --> 01:14:21,619
which is getting on an airplane, getting the

2314
01:14:21,619 --> 01:14:22,819
hell out of there. That's what they were

2315
01:14:22,819 --> 01:14:23,319
doing.

2316
01:14:23,859 --> 01:14:26,199
They they were they were they were leaving.

2317
01:14:26,579 --> 01:14:27,800
I think for Americans,

2318
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,100
I mean, the this would be such a

2319
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:31,719
deeply unpopular war.

2320
01:14:32,854 --> 01:14:35,015
The idea of a draft. I no. I

2321
01:14:35,015 --> 01:14:35,515
was

2322
01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:37,114
freshman in college

2323
01:14:37,895 --> 01:14:39,175
in January

2324
01:14:39,175 --> 01:14:40,314
when they did the

2325
01:14:40,694 --> 01:14:42,454
our the first Gulf War, and that was

2326
01:14:42,454 --> 01:14:44,389
a question that everyone was asking. Sure. Are

2327
01:14:44,389 --> 01:14:46,469
we gonna get drafted into this? Is there

2328
01:14:46,469 --> 01:14:48,149
gonna be a war? And and and so

2329
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:49,909
that was a real conversation that was being

2330
01:14:49,909 --> 01:14:52,310
had by people my age when I was

2331
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:52,969
in college.

2332
01:14:53,349 --> 01:14:55,349
It didn't wind up happening, of course. If

2333
01:14:55,349 --> 01:14:57,670
something like that were to be rolled out

2334
01:14:57,670 --> 01:14:58,170
now

2335
01:14:59,104 --> 01:15:00,965
in an era of social media,

2336
01:15:01,344 --> 01:15:03,265
in an era in a post Pat Tillman

2337
01:15:03,265 --> 01:15:03,765
world,

2338
01:15:04,864 --> 01:15:07,104
good luck. Good luck trying to do that.

2339
01:15:07,104 --> 01:15:08,164
We would be

2340
01:15:09,904 --> 01:15:12,804
we would be I would I would be

2341
01:15:13,185 --> 01:15:13,685
working

2342
01:15:14,730 --> 01:15:17,369
twenty hours a day trying to do everything

2343
01:15:17,369 --> 01:15:19,530
I could to throw a monkey wrench in

2344
01:15:19,530 --> 01:15:20,750
that plan. Mhmm.

2345
01:15:21,210 --> 01:15:23,690
You know? To to the idea of of

2346
01:15:23,690 --> 01:15:25,449
of suckering in a bunch of 18 and

2347
01:15:25,449 --> 01:15:27,630
19 year olds who don't know any better

2348
01:15:27,690 --> 01:15:29,550
to go die for Israel in

2349
01:15:29,875 --> 01:15:30,694
in Iran.

2350
01:15:31,154 --> 01:15:31,654
Mhmm.

2351
01:15:32,114 --> 01:15:34,034
Deeply unpopular. I I I think that might

2352
01:15:34,034 --> 01:15:35,335
be the end of

2353
01:15:36,274 --> 01:15:38,354
the Trump administration if you tried to roll

2354
01:15:38,354 --> 01:15:40,114
that. Maybe. I mean, maybe, like, it would

2355
01:15:40,114 --> 01:15:42,514
be so unpopular that the right and left

2356
01:15:42,514 --> 01:15:43,255
join together

2357
01:15:43,715 --> 01:15:45,849
in opposition of that. You can imagine that.

2358
01:15:46,099 --> 01:15:48,099
At a mafia point, right, where that's self

2359
01:15:48,099 --> 01:15:50,229
regulation, where they recognize that Trump or whatever

2360
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:52,309
they're doing is is exposing the game for

2361
01:15:52,309 --> 01:15:54,309
everybody. And that's how that tends to work.

2362
01:15:54,309 --> 01:15:55,510
Right? So they go, we gotta get him

2363
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:56,550
out of here, and we can go back

2364
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:59,335
to playing the same game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2365
01:15:59,335 --> 01:16:00,694
Yeah. It's a it's a it's a it's

2366
01:16:00,694 --> 01:16:02,854
an important time to be paying attention and

2367
01:16:02,854 --> 01:16:04,154
and to not get

2368
01:16:05,094 --> 01:16:08,295
suckered into these emotional responses to things, especially

2369
01:16:08,295 --> 01:16:09,814
with the mainstream media. They want you to

2370
01:16:09,814 --> 01:16:11,094
feel a certain way. They want you to

2371
01:16:11,094 --> 01:16:12,154
hate certain people.

2372
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:15,289
They want you to think that, you know,

2373
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:17,430
they want you to be inconsistent in your

2374
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:19,750
beliefs and bombing. When we do it, it's

2375
01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:22,070
fine. It's spreading freedom and democracy. When they

2376
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:23,050
do it, it's terrorism.

2377
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:25,590
And if they can get you to into

2378
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:26,085
that

2379
01:16:26,725 --> 01:16:28,645
frame of mind where you're where it's us

2380
01:16:28,645 --> 01:16:31,204
versus them, then then they've got you. You

2381
01:16:31,204 --> 01:16:32,484
know? And and I think it's just so

2382
01:16:32,484 --> 01:16:33,784
important for us to to

2383
01:16:34,244 --> 01:16:34,984
pull back,

2384
01:16:35,284 --> 01:16:36,885
to try and take a look at the

2385
01:16:36,885 --> 01:16:39,820
big picture, get good information, you know, and

2386
01:16:39,820 --> 01:16:42,619
and and not be so reactive. I I

2387
01:16:42,619 --> 01:16:44,699
know that there's a tendency, especially in America.

2388
01:16:44,699 --> 01:16:47,100
America, you know, let's get on there before

2389
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:49,020
they get us here. And I worry about

2390
01:16:49,020 --> 01:16:50,860
a false flag, of course. So we worry

2391
01:16:50,860 --> 01:16:53,340
about this sleeper cells thing that they're they're

2392
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:53,840
pitching.

2393
01:16:54,545 --> 01:16:55,024
You know?

2394
01:16:55,664 --> 01:16:57,984
So so and what would that look like?

2395
01:16:57,984 --> 01:16:58,545
Well, it would

2396
01:16:59,185 --> 01:16:59,844
you know,

2397
01:17:00,465 --> 01:17:02,304
what if they tried that and it and

2398
01:17:02,304 --> 01:17:05,024
it backfired and everybody immediately went Israel did

2399
01:17:05,024 --> 01:17:07,024
it, and and on social media, it was

2400
01:17:07,024 --> 01:17:08,704
just such a dud that they couldn't roll

2401
01:17:08,704 --> 01:17:11,050
that out anymore. I mean, maybe maybe that

2402
01:17:11,369 --> 01:17:13,210
yeah. And and that is that those sorts

2403
01:17:13,210 --> 01:17:15,789
of things have happened recently too. Yeah. So

2404
01:17:17,210 --> 01:17:19,369
we're getting to the point where they are

2405
01:17:19,369 --> 01:17:20,829
the boys who cried wolf,

2406
01:17:21,210 --> 01:17:23,609
and people just aren't really paying attention anymore,

2407
01:17:23,609 --> 01:17:25,164
and that's good. That's a that's a that's

2408
01:17:25,164 --> 01:17:26,765
a that's a better place for us to

2409
01:17:26,765 --> 01:17:30,145
be now than 2005

2410
01:17:30,364 --> 01:17:32,845
when the Iraq war sales pitch was happening.

2411
01:17:32,845 --> 01:17:34,685
And you all you had to do is

2412
01:17:34,685 --> 01:17:36,204
be the Dixie Chicks and say, you know,

2413
01:17:36,204 --> 01:17:37,725
shoot. We should give this a second thought.

2414
01:17:37,725 --> 01:17:38,789
And it's like, out.

2415
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:41,350
Vanished from the country. Have to change your

2416
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:42,970
name. Do all that. You know? So,

2417
01:17:43,909 --> 01:17:45,670
you know, this this is sort of where

2418
01:17:45,670 --> 01:17:47,109
we are. I just hope people will will

2419
01:17:47,109 --> 01:17:49,590
take a moment and not be reactive and

2420
01:17:49,590 --> 01:17:52,470
and and understand that there's propaganda on both

2421
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:54,774
sides, you You know, both sides propagate. Right.

2422
01:17:55,414 --> 01:17:57,255
And and and to be mindful of that

2423
01:17:57,255 --> 01:17:59,494
and not be reactive because they're gonna get

2424
01:17:59,494 --> 01:18:01,515
you emotional and because you'll

2425
01:18:02,215 --> 01:18:03,494
you know, because then they can get you

2426
01:18:03,494 --> 01:18:05,494
to act a certain way. Yeah. Right. Because

2427
01:18:05,494 --> 01:18:07,690
CircumMed's logic. They know that. You know? But

2428
01:18:07,810 --> 01:18:09,409
and to your point about they they're not

2429
01:18:09,409 --> 01:18:10,850
paying attention. And I know what you meant.

2430
01:18:10,850 --> 01:18:12,050
I but I would I would frame it

2431
01:18:12,050 --> 01:18:15,170
differently. It's they're paying more attention than ever.

2432
01:18:15,170 --> 01:18:16,770
They're just not paying attention to the people

2433
01:18:16,770 --> 01:18:19,010
that are proven liars over the years. Right?

2434
01:18:19,010 --> 01:18:20,289
You know? And I I even argue that

2435
01:18:20,289 --> 01:18:21,890
we should be watching and considering everything we

2436
01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:23,864
can, but question it all, right? Vet it

2437
01:18:23,864 --> 01:18:25,625
all. Question if you can't verify it, you

2438
01:18:25,625 --> 01:18:26,824
put it to the side but I think

2439
01:18:26,824 --> 01:18:28,344
that's what's happening. I think more people than

2440
01:18:28,344 --> 01:18:28,844
ever

2441
01:18:29,385 --> 01:18:31,224
are asking questions that they've never thought were

2442
01:18:31,224 --> 01:18:33,864
even, like, didn't even realize existed. You know,

2443
01:18:33,864 --> 01:18:36,039
like, this is truly starting to evolve in

2444
01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:37,399
a way. And I think we've been here

2445
01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:39,399
to a a smaller degree more than once.

2446
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:41,979
And it's it's our opportunity. It's our obligation

2447
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,600
to do something, to try to take advantage

2448
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,920
of this change, especially since it's so clear

2449
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,600
that none of us like what's going on.

2450
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,085
None of us like this. It's like if

2451
01:18:50,085 --> 01:18:52,244
if we're literally every time talking about the

2452
01:18:52,244 --> 01:18:54,164
lesser of evils, how do we not realize

2453
01:18:54,164 --> 01:18:55,524
where we are? You know? It's like, let's

2454
01:18:55,604 --> 01:18:57,444
we can genuinely change this, and I think

2455
01:18:57,444 --> 01:18:58,104
that's finally

2456
01:18:58,564 --> 01:19:00,645
becoming clear to people that it's not just

2457
01:19:00,645 --> 01:19:02,149
pick the other side, but, you know, how

2458
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:04,390
do we re how do we evolve or

2459
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:06,630
literally rebuild or build something new? You know?

2460
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:08,310
Like, it's important that we start asking these

2461
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:10,229
questions. We're gonna have a great conversation a

2462
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:11,689
month from now. I can tell you.

2463
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:14,390
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or hopefully sooner. I mean,

2464
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:15,864
we should, you know, like, just if there's

2465
01:19:15,864 --> 01:19:17,465
something crazy going on, we'll jump on and

2466
01:19:17,465 --> 01:19:18,824
talk about it, man. But I I always

2467
01:19:18,824 --> 01:19:21,145
appreciate our conversations, brother. It's just important to

2468
01:19:21,145 --> 01:19:22,585
be able to flesh these thoughts out, you

2469
01:19:22,585 --> 01:19:24,185
know, just just have a dialogue and and

2470
01:19:24,185 --> 01:19:25,625
think it through because a lot of this

2471
01:19:25,625 --> 01:19:27,625
stuff is you know, as always, you know,

2472
01:19:27,625 --> 01:19:30,380
you you adding new things to to to

2473
01:19:30,380 --> 01:19:32,219
my thoughts and vice versa. And hopefully, we

2474
01:19:32,219 --> 01:19:33,579
do that for everybody out there, you know,

2475
01:19:33,579 --> 01:19:35,420
because some of this stuff really is ridiculous.

2476
01:19:35,420 --> 01:19:36,939
And, you know, until you put a fine

2477
01:19:36,939 --> 01:19:38,539
point on it, until you openly say it

2478
01:19:38,539 --> 01:19:40,300
out loud, some people don't really see it

2479
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:41,925
or put it together, myself included, You know?

2480
01:19:41,925 --> 01:19:43,524
I've had conversations with you where I go,

2481
01:19:43,524 --> 01:19:44,405
you know what? And then, you know, and

2482
01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:45,444
then I go do a show, and it's

2483
01:19:45,444 --> 01:19:46,965
talking about something you and I discussed. You

2484
01:19:46,965 --> 01:19:49,045
know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're all we're

2485
01:19:49,045 --> 01:19:50,805
all helping each other. Nobody has it all

2486
01:19:50,805 --> 01:19:52,324
figured out. That and that's the beauty of

2487
01:19:52,324 --> 01:19:53,925
it. I mean, it's a big jigsaw puzzle,

2488
01:19:53,925 --> 01:19:54,875
and you bring a piece and I bring

2489
01:19:54,875 --> 01:19:55,859
a piece. And

2490
01:19:56,340 --> 01:19:57,779
after a while, it starts to take shape,

2491
01:19:57,779 --> 01:20:00,100
and we we start to to to to

2492
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:02,380
see the the, you know, what's out there.

2493
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:02,500
But,

2494
01:20:04,420 --> 01:20:06,100
I'm I'm just I'm glad that,

2495
01:20:07,139 --> 01:20:08,579
I'm glad that people are starting to ask

2496
01:20:08,579 --> 01:20:10,260
some questions now. Yeah. I I I I

2497
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:12,234
would agree with you that maybe they're not

2498
01:20:12,234 --> 01:20:14,795
paying attention to the mainstream media anymore, but

2499
01:20:14,795 --> 01:20:15,454
they are

2500
01:20:15,835 --> 01:20:18,074
paying attention. Maybe it's just as simple as

2501
01:20:18,074 --> 01:20:19,914
getting lied to. That's what did it to

2502
01:20:19,914 --> 01:20:21,675
me. I got lied to so much by

2503
01:20:21,675 --> 01:20:23,914
the media that it it infuriated me. I

2504
01:20:23,914 --> 01:20:25,274
just wanted to go out there and prove

2505
01:20:25,274 --> 01:20:26,975
them wrong. And now, you know,

2506
01:20:27,930 --> 01:20:29,930
went from despising the media to now being

2507
01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:31,369
a part of it with activist vote. But

2508
01:20:31,369 --> 01:20:33,130
I I suppose that's that's sort of how

2509
01:20:33,130 --> 01:20:34,650
it goes. Right? I I I wanted to

2510
01:20:34,650 --> 01:20:36,329
prove them wrong so badly that I'm like,

2511
01:20:36,329 --> 01:20:37,530
this is how you do it the right

2512
01:20:37,530 --> 01:20:39,369
way. Right. Right. You wanna prove them so

2513
01:20:39,369 --> 01:20:41,225
so wrong so badly that you go out

2514
01:20:41,225 --> 01:20:43,885
and do it every day. Yeah. Every day.

2515
01:20:44,345 --> 01:20:46,104
Every single day, we get to do I

2516
01:20:46,104 --> 01:20:47,704
I know I frankly enjoy it. I like

2517
01:20:47,744 --> 01:20:49,305
I you know, I'm I'm at a point

2518
01:20:49,305 --> 01:20:51,465
where we are in real time watching people

2519
01:20:51,465 --> 01:20:53,164
whether mainstream alternative or mainstream

2520
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,159
get seen for what they really are. There

2521
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:56,840
is a level of enjoyment there because they

2522
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,279
deserve it. You know? And I think that

2523
01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:00,199
accountability is is nice to see, and, hopefully,

2524
01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:01,479
we can get more of that. So Yeah.

2525
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,399
Charlie, always a pleasure, brother. Thank you for

2526
01:21:03,399 --> 01:21:04,920
being here. And as always, I'll bring out

2527
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,899
their question, everything. Come to your own conclusions.

2528
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:08,939
Stay vigilant.

2529
01:21:10,295 --> 01:21:13,175
I frankly think that crisis initiation is really

2530
01:21:13,175 --> 01:21:13,675
tough,

2531
01:21:14,295 --> 01:21:16,135
and it's very hard for me to see

2532
01:21:16,135 --> 01:21:17,114
how The United States,

2533
01:21:19,255 --> 01:21:21,479
president can get us to war with Iran.

2534
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,960
Which leads me to conclude that if, in

2535
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,739
fact, compromise is not coming,

2536
01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:30,840
that the traditional way of America gets to

2537
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,319
war is what would be best for US

2538
01:21:33,319 --> 01:21:33,819
interests.

2539
01:21:34,925 --> 01:21:36,765
Some people might think that mister Roosevelt wanted

2540
01:21:36,765 --> 01:21:38,204
to get us into World War two as

2541
01:21:38,204 --> 01:21:39,725
David mentioned. You may recall we had to

2542
01:21:39,725 --> 01:21:40,784
wait for Pearl Harbor.

2543
01:21:41,244 --> 01:21:42,925
Some people might think mister Wilson wanted to

2544
01:21:42,925 --> 01:21:44,685
get us into World War one. You may

2545
01:21:44,685 --> 01:21:46,225
recall he had to wait for the Lusitania

2546
01:21:46,445 --> 01:21:46,945
episode.

2547
01:21:47,409 --> 01:21:49,210
Some people might think that mister Johnson wanted

2548
01:21:49,210 --> 01:21:51,090
to send troops to Vietnam. You may recall

2549
01:21:51,090 --> 01:21:52,210
he had to wait for the Gulf Of

2550
01:21:52,210 --> 01:21:53,189
Tonkin episode.

2551
01:21:54,130 --> 01:21:55,810
We didn't go to war with Spain until

2552
01:21:55,810 --> 01:21:56,470
the USS,

2553
01:21:56,930 --> 01:21:58,149
until the Maine exploded.

2554
01:21:58,689 --> 01:22:01,534
And may I point out that mister Lincoln

2555
01:22:01,534 --> 01:22:02,654
did not feel he could call out the

2556
01:22:02,654 --> 01:22:05,135
Federal Army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which

2557
01:22:05,135 --> 01:22:06,814
is why he ordered the commander at Fort

2558
01:22:06,814 --> 01:22:08,895
Sumter to do exactly that thing, which the

2559
01:22:08,895 --> 01:22:11,795
South Carolinians had said would cause an attack.

2560
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:15,260
So, if in fact, the Iranians aren't gonna

2561
01:22:15,260 --> 01:22:15,760
compromise,

2562
01:22:16,140 --> 01:22:17,739
it would be best if somebody else started

2563
01:22:17,739 --> 01:22:18,399
the war.

2564
01:22:22,939 --> 01:22:24,619
But I would just like to suggest that,

2565
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:27,739
one can combine other means of pressure with

2566
01:22:27,739 --> 01:22:28,239
sanctions.

2567
01:22:29,045 --> 01:22:30,425
I mentioned that explosion

2568
01:22:31,204 --> 01:22:32,185
on August 17.

2569
01:22:32,885 --> 01:22:34,425
We could step up the pressure.

2570
01:22:36,005 --> 01:22:38,645
I mean, look, people, Iranian submarines periodically go

2571
01:22:38,645 --> 01:22:40,324
down. Someday, one of them might not come

2572
01:22:40,324 --> 01:22:42,060
up. Who would know why?

2573
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,400
We can do a variety of things if

2574
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,159
we wish to increase the pressure. I'm not

2575
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:49,420
advocating that, but I'm just suggesting

2576
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,199
that, it it it it's this this is

2577
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:54,680
not a a either or proposition of, you

2578
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,414
know, it's just sanctions has to has to

2579
01:22:56,414 --> 01:22:57,635
succeed or other things.

2580
01:22:58,095 --> 01:22:59,475
We are in the game

2581
01:23:00,494 --> 01:23:02,675
of using covert means against the Iranians.

2582
01:23:05,055 --> 01:23:07,234
We we could get nastier at that.