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I've seen a lot of this actually online

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with people going, I didn't ask for this.

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I voted for him, but I didn't vote

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for this. Big people too. Yeah. Big people.

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And and and once you get past the

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you you actually did kind of vote for

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it, then it's

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then it's well

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well, now what are you gonna do? Mhmm.

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Are you now you have a you have

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a decision to make. Are you gonna rationalize

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his behavior and say, well, you know, it

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would have been much worse if Kamala was

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there? Because you could do that. You could

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try that, and and you could probably convince

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yourself for a little while. Or you're gonna

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get honest.

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Welcome to another episode of What the Hell

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is Happening with my cohost or joining me

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monthly, however you look at it, Charlie Robinson.

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Here to discuss the madness of the news

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cycle and the, you know, partisan

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chaos that we're seeing every week every month,

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really, because seeing this we've been doing it

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pretty much monthly.

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It's just continually chaotic, and we like to

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continue to connect and go over some of

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these points and how it's developed, and it's

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always entertaining conversation. So, Charlie, welcome back. How

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are you, my friend?

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I'm I'm good.

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It's funny because when we make notes on

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what we're gonna talk about, it's it's written

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in proverbial pencil, you know, because it it's

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subject to change. There you don't know what's

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gonna happen in the next forty eight hours

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that's gonna throw a big monkey wrench and

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everything or be the next distraction

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to get you talking about something else instead

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of leering centers. Now you're talking about,

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Venezuela or you're

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maybe you're now you're back in

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Minnesota. Minnesota has been on the map quite

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a bit.

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what are the chances of that? Yeah. You

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know, it's it's funny you say that. Like,

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you know, because if you look at the

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at the story,

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it's I don't really even see a way

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that that would make sense that it you

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know, like, why that would even connect. But

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I made the same point last night. I

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said, isn't it strange that whenever there's a

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point, whatever it is, and Elon Musk is

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you know, they're they're all the usual suspects

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are screaming about the one thing. The next

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thing that happens, even if it's not connected

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to the story, is in the same location.

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Like, it's been it's happening over and over

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and over. Haiti and then Haiti and then

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you know, it's very weird to me. And

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so but my thought was how is it

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how would this even play into that? You

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know? Let's let's let's just start with that

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since the

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the the shooting itself

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is obviously an important story of US citizen,

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which is just batshit crazy. I mean, the

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way that people are regarding it, it's it's

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crazy. We can get into the the nuance

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of that. But the overlap you're may pointing

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is we have the Minnesota, you know,

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Somalia conversation. We have the more than that

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even. There's other political points from that and

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how it all just kinda seems to swell

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around that. Do you have a thought on

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what the importance of Minnesota may be or

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what the if there is a reason behind

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that bigger picture, what it may be? Do

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you have any thoughts? Well, it's a fully

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controlled city. I think that's pretty obvious that

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the mechanisms of government there are under the

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of an of something of supranational.

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feels feels feels very comfortable to run their

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through that city. Like, that there's not going

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to be,

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a ton you know, that they'll have

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some form of control over the narrative. At

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least that's what they believe. It's been an

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interest it's interesting that it keeps coming back

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Would you flush that part out there for

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me? What do you mean? Because I'm interested

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by that. Do you mean, like, some kind

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of a like a UN

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dynamic? Or when you say, you know, a

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multinational or term use, what do you mean

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by that? There's certain places that are just

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spook central.

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where you go. There's just a lot of

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government. I mean, I get it outside of

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the Beltway in in in, you know, Virginia

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and places like that. That's where you would

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expect it. But there's certain there's other places.

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in the city that lives there, it's like

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it's like off season for carnival workers. Right?

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intelligence.

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Interesting. The whole city. So I when I

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just keep seeing this over and over again,

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you know, what are we what are we

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good at? We're good at pattern recognition. Minneapolis

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keeps coming up an unusually

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an unusual amount for statistical

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probability of the city being the focal point

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of, you know, George Floyd and BLM and

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all of this and and,

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and the Somali

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pirate narrative that came out, which is interesting

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because this has been, you know, I was

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there fifteen years ago, and they had a

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huge Somali problem in Rochester, which isn't Minneapolis.

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what is going on here? Is there some

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sort of, like, program or theme? It's like,

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yeah. There's just a lot of Samoels here.

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I was like, why? She's like,

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well, there's some sort of arrangement. I was

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like, this is weird. Like, you know? But

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but that that was fifteen years ago. Yeah.

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because the media is talking about it, and

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they're like, oh, it's like they woke up

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one day, and it was like an infestation.

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time. I think you can even trace it

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back to, like, '90 post '93,

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some sort of arrangement with the small government,

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with Clinton, and something like that. So so,

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it's not a new it's not a new,

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development. If you live there, you knew about

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this for a long, long time. I think

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what is new is that the

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news consumer out there is now talking about

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it in a way that they hadn't been.

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lot of fun with it. And but but,

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but you you all you also kinda got

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the feeling while it was happening,

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there's a lot of

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manufactured attention on it. Mhmm. Almost, you know,

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when when everybody's talking about something, you have

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to feel you almost have to take a

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step back and go, okay.

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a real important deal that we have to

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talk about right in this moment? Or

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are we all being told to to look

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here because there's something else going on? Is

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it a distraction? My mind ought to always

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goes to this as a Yeah. For something

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else. It's a distraction from something that's being

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discussed or voted on or being rammed through

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or happening in Israel or whatever.

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when I see it just sitting there. Mhmm.

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everybody's

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in in and the hallmark,

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of of a good trap is that

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you're rightly annoyed you're rightly angry.

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Mhmm. And interested. Yeah. And interested. And yeah.

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And you see this and you go, woah.

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Mhmm. That these people are facing, and this

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is a real problem. And then you go,

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woah. If if this is happening there, who

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who's to say it's not happening where I

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live or, you know, everywhere? Everywhere. It's not

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limited to the Somali community. It could be

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the, I don't know, Dominican Republic community in

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some obscure state somewhere. So it it opens

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this can of worms. You start thinking, well,

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if this is happening there, it could be

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happening everywhere. Mhmm. So I'm just I'm always

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you know, I'm always a bit cautious to

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to to to to go

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run sprinting into them, find out what's going

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on with the narrative because it always feels

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a bit fishy. But, man, for some reason,

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Minneapolis,

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Jacob Frey, that guy is he's involved in

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everything.

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I've seen that guy too much. I shouldn't

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know who the mayor of Minneapolis is. Yeah.

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Right. Exactly. Shouldn't Statistically, like you're saying, it's

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it's unnatural. Even, you know, that would it

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would be so much you know, things can

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happen. There can be odd series of events,

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but for that extended period of time, like,

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just as mathematically is a good point to

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say that seems unlikely that we would see

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this continually in the news. But you mean

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explanation for it. I can't say, well, it's

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because of this, this, and this. I'm just

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going I'm just saying it looks weird to

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me. Mhmm. And and it could happen anywhere,

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and and and and I'm hoping that it

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doesn't continue to happen anywhere, of course. But

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again, it's like

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it it feels like our did we spin

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the wheel, like, the the the the the

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Somali pirates from

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Minneapolis.

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Right. Okay? Like, it just feels like it's

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haphazard and random and and unusual that we're

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that we're doing this. But then again, you

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every year, they sort of grab you with

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the media headlines. This time last year, what

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were we talking about? We're talking about

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a Tesla exploding right in front of the

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Trump Tower. Right? And the The race of

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warfare. The visual significance of that and the

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the the the army PSIOP division and talking

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about Ghost in the Machine and all that

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good stuff. So so here we are a

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year later. I mean, they told us they

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were gonna do it. They told us they

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were gonna run ops on us, and they

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have. And so the question is,

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how much of this is legitimate

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outrage? I mean, I'd be outraged if I

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believe that my community, the tax dollars are

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being squandered on nonsensical day care centers that

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don't exist from people who

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hate me or, you know, are actively

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trying to get rid of white people from

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your area. It's like, yeah, I'd be pretty

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mad about that. But then it's like, alright.

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logical, reasonable

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level of outrage

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get

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then weaponized into something else. Like, we gotta

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round them all up. We gotta do we

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we gotta we gotta I don't care if

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it if we're gonna do digital IDs. Just

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solve this problem. Exactly. You know? And you

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can see yourself walking into it. About using

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an an actual problem. And then whether this

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let let's talk about that story because there's

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a lot of different overlapping points to that

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that whole thing. But even if the story

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is 100% accurate, it can still be weaponized

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to drive you into something like you just

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said, and that's often the case. But what's

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interesting about all this is, you know, first,

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just on that day care story itself and

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all the it's same with, like, the Venezuela

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point we can get into, the unparalleled

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amount of blatant propaganda. And I mean, like,

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false AI. You know, it's it's and it's

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never been more clear. It's being called out

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by Twitter. You know? But so on the

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Somali thing, what's interesting to me is you

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can go back and show and I agree

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with you. I mean, this is a this

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is a long term, obvious case of fraud

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and government manipulation.

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And frankly, I think it's quite obvious that

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it's not unique to just this one location

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or Democrats. That's always important to point out.

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But in this case, what's interesting is in

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Biden's administration, there was, what, like, 75 people

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indicted?

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And yet in Trump's administration, I haven't seen

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any. And And so what's fascinating to me

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is and that's not to say one's good

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or one bad or you know my opinion.

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I think it's the government, and I think

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it's all it's a whole of government problem,

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but it's fascinating the way it's being discussed.

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And then you got this Nick Shirley part

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of it. Of course, he's in this little

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weird Israel circle of funding dynamic, and and

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he's, I mean, just bad at what he

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does, if you got my honest opinion. His

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gray sweet sweatshirt asking track it was it

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just it seems like they're picking people like

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that for a reason, but he comes up

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to the story and does these kind of

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gotcha moment things. And I'm not even sure

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whether what he was highlighting. And let me

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know what you know if there's more in

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this part of it around the daycares he

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was highlighting, whether that was even a legitimate

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additional part of the story. My my point

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was there's fraud, and you can prove that.

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There's been people put in jail for it,

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and it's gone all the way to this

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point. And I think it's been continued allowed

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for a lot of reasons. But what's interesting

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is do you think that they're like, the

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Nick Shirley dynamic of what he was highlighting

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of these daycares? Do you feel like that

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was an actual extension of this? Or then,

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like you were saying,

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using a real story and then turning it

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into a cartoonish version of it right now

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in the way he was highlighting it for

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the purposes of, I don't know, Somaliland conversation

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or any number of overlaps that come from

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our country, immigration. You know? So what do

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you think about that little part of it?

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Soon as I saw the PR,

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campaign he was doing for Israel's,

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travel industry, I went, woah. Okay. Hang on

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a second. That's not coincidental.

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You know? That that that feels like an

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op. Now

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now like a limited hangout, like, maybe get

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you

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focusing on the Somali fraud because it's easy

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and you can throw a bunch of people

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under the bus. Yeah. Yeah. But that gets

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and that gets the ball wrong. And by

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the way, fraud, this is not new. Mhmm.

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They had discovered this. This had been brought

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up in 2018. This is something they talked

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about. They've done nothing about. Before that. Yeah.

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And before that. Yeah. And and why don't

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we bring it up? We can we can

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dress it up like it's brand new. It's

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new fraud all over again. We know nothing's

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gonna be done about it. And if it

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does, who do we don't care. You know,

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it it'll tie up the gum up the

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the the media wheels. We'll get you get

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you worried about

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daycares and

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Somali daycares in Minneapolis, and you're not worried

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about what's going on in Palm Beach. You

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know, you're not you're not worried about,

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the other things that are happening

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that that are not on the news cycle

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because of this or not on the social

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media cycle. And and it's red meat, of

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course, you know, because you see it and

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you're rightly upset about it. It doesn't matter.

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And and and you wanna fix it, and

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you know it's fixable, and you know that

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there's a lot of people that need to

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be led away in handcuffs for a variety

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of things and that, you know,

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but I also then immediately kinda go to,

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alright. So

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if they if this is out there

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and it's and it's really it's the genie's

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out of the bottle. You see it. You

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can't unsee it. You know that there's rampant

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fraud going on.

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I suppose I don't know if this was

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their ultimate goal,

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but maybe the pivot is,

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fine.

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Let the people see the fraud. That's part

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of the demoralization

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campaign. You know, you're never gonna get it

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fixed. We're never gonna arrest those people. They're

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never gonna be mass arrest. We're never gonna

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leave these people out in handcuffs. So you

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talk about this all you want. All it's

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gonna do is make you realize when you're

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done, nothing's gonna happen.

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They'll still be

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running frauds on you. You'll still be mad

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about it, and nothing will be nobody will

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ever go to jail except maybe you for

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pointing it out or talking about it on

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social media

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or asking for an early life check on

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somebody who wrote an article about it. You

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might get people knocking at your door to

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take you away, but none of the actual

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perpetrators will go to prison. And that that

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actually works just as well,

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you know, is if they say, god, what

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what happens if they if the general public

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finds out that none of these people will

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ever go to prison? Then what will we

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do?

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We'll demoralize them. That's what we'll do. Right.

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I mean, that's such an important point in

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all this. And, you know, and we often

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touch on this, the, you know, the reality

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of people the awareness of what's happening right

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now. I tend to think it's clearly the

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majority of pretty much everybody, But what's it's

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what does that an honest person has to

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be able to see that. And it's like

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let's just say they're still waiting and biding

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their time here. You've got a I mean,

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that meme is going around. Epstein, January 6,

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Social Security, just 0000.

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Right? There's nobody nobody of substance is being

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arrested Of all the people they've been screaming

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about, of all the Joneses out there telling

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you, if we can just keep Trump alive,

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they're all going down. You know, the Comey

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thing, the Letitia James thing, even Bolton, I'm

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convinced those are all designed to fail. Two

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of them already have. You know? And then

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Trump blames Bondi for not doing something about

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it. Like, this still is very cultivated. You

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know?

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So

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Walls, Ilhan Omar, okay. I I I think

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they're all criminals, but whether there's the the

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what they're pointing to here is in fact

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showing they're criminals, I haven't seen provable evidence,

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but it wouldn't surprise me. But if they're

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not arrested because that's what they're pointing to,

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that needs to show everybody something, and I

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think it does. Average, honest people are gonna

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go, okay. How many times in a row

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can we see narrative, narrative bluster, screaming, it's

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the biggest story in the world, and nobody

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gets held accountable, you know, from the people

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you're supporting? You know? It is, I think,

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one of the most important points is who

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who does and doesn't get arrested. You know?

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And then and then I think there are

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other reports of this that are super interesting.

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That first,

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on top of that, the Somalian part of

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it, I find it so frustrating that

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it's like the immigration part in general.

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It's crazy to me that you can

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point out this story, which implicitly I could

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in within the story itself, the way it's

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being told is these Somali people are being

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taken advantage of. Right? Or or you could

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argue that individual people are then gaining from

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the criminal activity of the government. But what

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the argument I it's it seems unfounded to

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say that the Somalian people are

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willfully defrauding the the government as opposed to

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a government entity, Maul's Ilhan Omar creating a

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system which they profit from using this system.

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Both of those things don't seem to make

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sense because one person's exploiting the other. Right?

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And so at the end of the day,

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it becomes the Somali people. You get Jack

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Posobiec out there going, well, we imported Somali

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pirates. It's just it's just on its face

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kind of embarrassing, the broad brush kind of

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conversation. And so that constantly be is a

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is a factor. And I think that's about

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creating hatred toward the people who are clearly

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not you know, as always, it's the government.

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It's the people playing us against ourselves, making

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us focus on each other. And that's a

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core point for what we're dealing with in

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this country as well. A mutually parasitic relationship

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created by a group, the government, who has

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a long track record of doing things like

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this, and they have the expertise and know

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how to to to manipulate a group

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into a situation like this. Hey. Come to

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The States.

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We'll take care of you. We'll hook you

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up. We'll give you you know, I don't

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we don't know what promises were made. We're

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gonna get whatever it is is better than

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your current situation living in Mogadishu in a

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war torn you know, with warlords and, of

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course, The US is in there stirring up

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problems. And when you saw Blackhawk down those

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with that there that

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I mean, don't use that as a history

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lesson, but, you know, if you saw the

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movie, you know that there was an issue

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in '93 in Somalia.

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But,

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you know,

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they came to

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Minnesota in general, Minneapolis in particular, but it

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wasn't limited to that

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with some sort of pipeline, with some sort

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of reasoning.

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Mhmm. And the government you you have to

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ask, like,

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okay. What's in it for us, the people?

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Well, the answer is not a ton, but

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in for the government itself,

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it becomes very I mean, very you are

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importing

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a voting block that is

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will be generationally loyal to you. I don't

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know. I agree with that point. That always

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comes up. And I and I I thought

526
00:17:17,299 --> 00:17:19,059
it's a valid point to be made about,

527
00:17:19,059 --> 00:17:21,140
like, a loyalty to feeling like you, you

528
00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:22,980
know like, again, let's realize, I think most

529
00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:24,419
people in the world are very aware of

530
00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:26,440
the problems in their countries are largely responsible

531
00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:28,154
because of Western foreign policy, so I don't

532
00:17:28,154 --> 00:17:29,914
think they see the government in a good

533
00:17:29,914 --> 00:17:31,835
light. But, nonetheless, they might be like, okay.

534
00:17:31,835 --> 00:17:33,514
You know, you saved me from even something

535
00:17:33,514 --> 00:17:35,355
you created. I still feel loyal. But is

536
00:17:35,355 --> 00:17:37,434
that to one party? Because I we can

537
00:17:37,434 --> 00:17:39,194
go back through multiple administrations and show that

538
00:17:39,194 --> 00:17:40,799
this was still continuing. You know? So it

539
00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:42,319
it tends to be used as an argument

540
00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:44,240
that sort of they're importing votes, and I

541
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,519
think you can prove that's not the way

542
00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:46,799
it's been for a long time if ever.

543
00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:47,919
You know, that it's more of a fixed

544
00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:49,539
bag. In the black community

545
00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:51,679
in like, I could speak where I was

546
00:17:51,679 --> 00:17:53,700
in LA, living in in in California

547
00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:56,234
for thirty years, in LA for twenty years.

548
00:17:56,634 --> 00:17:57,454
In LA,

549
00:17:58,154 --> 00:18:00,315
they bought the Democrats bought the black vote.

550
00:18:00,315 --> 00:18:02,714
There was no I know that happens. That's

551
00:18:02,714 --> 00:18:03,914
not what I was saying. Bought with welfare

552
00:18:03,914 --> 00:18:05,674
and and the LA County has the highest

553
00:18:05,674 --> 00:18:07,275
percentage of welfare. I mean, it's just straight

554
00:18:07,275 --> 00:18:09,434
up bought. So in in a sense that

555
00:18:09,515 --> 00:18:11,480
I I don't when I say when I

556
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,160
say loyalty, I mean, you

557
00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:15,559
you're you're loyal as long as you're being

558
00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:17,480
taken care of. You're being taken care of

559
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,380
because you provide something to the Democratic Party.

560
00:18:20,519 --> 00:18:22,359
You provide a block. You you you're a

561
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,440
chunk that nope that the other team can't

562
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,195
get to. At least that's when they may

563
00:18:26,195 --> 00:18:27,634
see it as the as the government. They

564
00:18:27,634 --> 00:18:28,875
may feel like they're doing that. I just

565
00:18:28,994 --> 00:18:30,115
my point is that I just don't think

566
00:18:30,115 --> 00:18:31,555
it translates the way that we tend to

567
00:18:31,555 --> 00:18:33,474
feel like it does, especially just the broad

568
00:18:33,474 --> 00:18:35,715
immigration point, which tends to be just bringing

569
00:18:35,715 --> 00:18:37,555
in immigrants because they're gonna vote Democrat. I

570
00:18:37,555 --> 00:18:39,394
don't think that's even provable anymore. Like, I

571
00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:40,799
think it's different. But you make a valid

572
00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:43,119
point. They don't need them anymore. They don't

573
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,960
even need actual people. You know my opinion.

574
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,839
I don't think they need any of it,

575
00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:46,740
but they They

576
00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:49,779
they to keep the theater

577
00:18:50,319 --> 00:18:52,000
alive, you know, to keep that going and

578
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,704
to keep and to keep,

579
00:18:54,085 --> 00:18:55,924
you know, what would like, Carlin would say,

580
00:18:55,924 --> 00:18:57,684
like, keep the pressure on the middle class.

581
00:18:57,684 --> 00:18:58,744
Right? Keep keep

582
00:18:59,125 --> 00:19:00,744
keep keep the keep the, you know, import

583
00:19:01,044 --> 00:19:03,044
a a a new generation. You've got to,

584
00:19:03,044 --> 00:19:04,325
you know, you've got it. You might you

585
00:19:04,325 --> 00:19:06,724
may have a demographic situation with baby boomers

586
00:19:06,724 --> 00:19:07,410
aging out.

587
00:19:07,970 --> 00:19:09,269
You bring in a

588
00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:10,710
a a lower class

589
00:19:11,170 --> 00:19:11,670
that's

590
00:19:12,609 --> 00:19:13,830
that's dependent on welfare

591
00:19:14,529 --> 00:19:15,029
and

592
00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:17,650
will be easily manipulated by the state,

593
00:19:18,049 --> 00:19:19,570
into a variety of things. I mean, we're

594
00:19:19,570 --> 00:19:20,869
not we haven't gotten into

595
00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:23,554
UBI at this point, but this is a

596
00:19:23,875 --> 00:19:25,634
it's a soft form of it, I suppose,

597
00:19:25,634 --> 00:19:28,355
in in in any sort of, government handout

598
00:19:28,355 --> 00:19:31,234
program. It's it's it's a feeder mechanism into

599
00:19:31,234 --> 00:19:33,575
full blown UBI It's dependent. At some point.

600
00:19:33,789 --> 00:19:35,390
Yeah. Any in any way they can get

601
00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:37,710
you dependent on them being there, whatever that

602
00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:39,549
means, you know, then it becomes a coercive

603
00:19:39,549 --> 00:19:41,150
measure. Like, then that can be used against

604
00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:42,349
you. You can say, can we hold this

605
00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:43,630
if you don't comply with the shot or

606
00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:45,710
whatever it becomes. You know, that that's very

607
00:19:45,710 --> 00:19:47,869
important. So you're right. Those are valid points

608
00:19:47,869 --> 00:19:50,304
at any level because any kind of overlap

609
00:19:50,304 --> 00:19:52,304
like that can be used, driven, or even

610
00:19:52,304 --> 00:19:54,224
just in hopes that they feel you're the

611
00:19:54,224 --> 00:19:55,904
one helping them. But I just I think

612
00:19:55,904 --> 00:19:57,424
the larger point is that that's not as

613
00:19:57,424 --> 00:19:58,625
clear as it used to be, if it

614
00:19:58,625 --> 00:20:00,464
ever was. And people like, I mean, Trump

615
00:20:00,464 --> 00:20:02,609
in his last administration and now. Right? And,

616
00:20:02,609 --> 00:20:04,089
of course, this could be him just blustering

617
00:20:04,089 --> 00:20:06,170
for campaign stuff, but always talks about the

618
00:20:06,170 --> 00:20:07,930
black vote, the Mexican vote, and acting like

619
00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:09,529
you know, saying that they're mostly on his

620
00:20:09,529 --> 00:20:11,049
side. Well, that's the my point is if

621
00:20:11,049 --> 00:20:12,569
that's the case, then that doesn't seem to

622
00:20:12,569 --> 00:20:14,009
represent what they claim it does. But I

623
00:20:14,009 --> 00:20:15,529
think you made the biggest point there that

624
00:20:15,529 --> 00:20:17,095
at the end of the day, if you

625
00:20:17,335 --> 00:20:19,014
if you know, I believe that this has

626
00:20:19,014 --> 00:20:20,534
been stolen from us a long time ago,

627
00:20:20,534 --> 00:20:21,914
so it's really about presenting

628
00:20:22,214 --> 00:20:24,774
the, like, you know, the illusion, but also

629
00:20:24,774 --> 00:20:26,774
a secondary thought of just creating the fodder

630
00:20:26,774 --> 00:20:27,974
for us to be yelling at while they're

631
00:20:27,974 --> 00:20:29,569
back here controlling our lives because because that's

632
00:20:29,569 --> 00:20:31,490
what it kinda feels like. Well, there's also

633
00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:34,690
the the another component to this, which which

634
00:20:34,690 --> 00:20:37,029
really kinda happened under the the Biden administration

635
00:20:37,089 --> 00:20:38,930
when you were seeing a a mass influx

636
00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:41,009
of people from the Southern border into places

637
00:20:41,009 --> 00:20:43,045
like Chicago. And then you were having the

638
00:20:43,045 --> 00:20:46,265
existing community in Chicago who had been receiving

639
00:20:46,325 --> 00:20:47,225
well handouts,

640
00:20:47,924 --> 00:20:48,904
welfare for

641
00:20:50,005 --> 00:20:50,664
for generations.

642
00:20:51,365 --> 00:20:53,765
They were up in arms because their cheese

643
00:20:53,765 --> 00:20:55,990
was being taken by the new group of

644
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:57,990
people, and they were pitting this group against

645
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:59,349
one another. And you could see that and

646
00:20:59,349 --> 00:21:01,910
you go, oh, I've seen this movie before.

647
00:21:01,910 --> 00:21:03,509
I know. I know what's going on here.

648
00:21:03,509 --> 00:21:05,509
Say, that guy is trying to take your

649
00:21:05,509 --> 00:21:06,009
stuff.

650
00:21:07,269 --> 00:21:09,589
And then and just get them fighting against

651
00:21:09,589 --> 00:21:11,414
one another, and you can see how that

652
00:21:11,414 --> 00:21:13,015
could be used as a, you know, like,

653
00:21:13,015 --> 00:21:14,694
what is the purpose of importing all these

654
00:21:14,694 --> 00:21:16,714
people in? Oh, one

655
00:21:17,255 --> 00:21:19,654
might not be the only purpose, but one

656
00:21:19,654 --> 00:21:23,034
definite reason is to make everybody else

657
00:21:23,859 --> 00:21:26,039
who went through the normal legal

658
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:30,339
traditional immigration process, make them resent you. Yeah.

659
00:21:30,339 --> 00:21:33,139
That's one that's one nice side effect. You're

660
00:21:33,139 --> 00:21:34,740
gonna have a segment of the of the

661
00:21:34,740 --> 00:21:37,784
population that's gonna always resent these other I

662
00:21:37,784 --> 00:21:39,144
did it the right way. It took me

663
00:21:39,144 --> 00:21:40,505
five years. I had to go through all

664
00:21:40,505 --> 00:21:42,904
these interviews with these stupid people and take

665
00:21:42,904 --> 00:21:44,345
all these tests and those, and I did

666
00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:45,865
the whole thing and paid the money, and

667
00:21:45,865 --> 00:21:47,704
I got the right way. And these assholes

668
00:21:47,704 --> 00:21:50,009
just walked across the border. How dare they?

669
00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:51,769
And, oh, well, you're all we're all immigrants.

670
00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:53,450
No. Wait a second. I'm different than them.

671
00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:54,570
I did it the right way. They're not

672
00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:56,809
and so there's a different tier system there.

673
00:21:56,809 --> 00:21:58,570
You know? So It is high. Yep. And

674
00:21:58,570 --> 00:22:01,769
it's just chaos and and frustration, and you

675
00:22:01,769 --> 00:22:03,744
you know, those people got that stuff, and

676
00:22:03,744 --> 00:22:05,345
I should have gotten that, and I I

677
00:22:05,345 --> 00:22:06,944
did it the right way, and where's my

678
00:22:06,944 --> 00:22:08,625
stuff? And then you go, well, why should

679
00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:10,325
I even be paying taxes at all?

680
00:22:11,345 --> 00:22:13,345
Yeah. Right? And you get to people to

681
00:22:13,345 --> 00:22:14,704
the point where they throw their hands up

682
00:22:14,704 --> 00:22:15,365
and go,

683
00:22:15,744 --> 00:22:16,884
it's so crazy.

684
00:22:17,630 --> 00:22:19,950
I feel like I'm the sucker for playing

685
00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:20,769
by the rules.

686
00:22:21,070 --> 00:22:23,070
Yeah. Maybe I should stop playing by the

687
00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:25,630
rules because, apparently, the rules only apply to

688
00:22:25,630 --> 00:22:26,130
me.

689
00:22:26,670 --> 00:22:28,110
That's a very good point in a larger

690
00:22:28,110 --> 00:22:29,150
sense as well. I think it's what a

691
00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:30,590
lot of Americans are going through, but it

692
00:22:30,590 --> 00:22:32,323
might very well be weaponized to drive us

693
00:22:32,323 --> 00:22:32,924
into accepting what they present to us

694
00:22:33,884 --> 00:22:36,205
next. Right? We're always talking about that. But

695
00:22:36,205 --> 00:22:38,625
what's what's interesting though is the core point

696
00:22:38,684 --> 00:22:41,085
before that secondary discussion, what does it what

697
00:22:41,085 --> 00:22:42,365
does it do? Well, it makes you fight

698
00:22:42,365 --> 00:22:43,884
your neighbor. It makes you ignore the fact

699
00:22:43,884 --> 00:22:45,404
that the problems you're dealing with have nothing

700
00:22:45,404 --> 00:22:46,924
to do with the group they also brought

701
00:22:46,924 --> 00:22:48,660
in but the people doing the string pulling.

702
00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:50,900
You know? And it's so easy to see.

703
00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:52,420
Now that's not to say that there's I

704
00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:54,180
mean, it's always a mixed bag. Even in

705
00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:55,859
the Somali conversation, what I said was not

706
00:22:55,859 --> 00:22:57,380
meant to imply that there's not people who

707
00:22:57,380 --> 00:23:00,420
are choosing to deliberately defraud the government. That

708
00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:03,059
happens here, there, black, white, Jewish, Christian, it

709
00:23:03,059 --> 00:23:04,434
happens all over the place. You know? And

710
00:23:04,434 --> 00:23:05,875
so it's important to see that at the

711
00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:07,315
end of the day, these are just average

712
00:23:07,315 --> 00:23:09,315
people trying to get by. And, really, what's

713
00:23:09,315 --> 00:23:10,835
funny is from a core like, even from

714
00:23:10,835 --> 00:23:12,835
a Republican standpoint, are you really gonna begrudge

715
00:23:12,835 --> 00:23:14,434
somebody for screwing over a government that we

716
00:23:14,434 --> 00:23:16,115
all criticize that's robbing us every day and

717
00:23:16,115 --> 00:23:18,069
killing people around the world? It's interesting the

718
00:23:18,069 --> 00:23:19,349
lines we draw for how we think we're

719
00:23:19,349 --> 00:23:21,349
defending our own team when it's really just

720
00:23:21,349 --> 00:23:23,349
you defending the power. The rebels right at

721
00:23:23,349 --> 00:23:25,269
the deep state are out there circling around

722
00:23:25,269 --> 00:23:27,190
the government going, you're you know, it's like

723
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:28,409
acting like the defenders.

724
00:23:28,859 --> 00:23:29,690
It's a great

725
00:23:30,144 --> 00:23:32,545
it's a it's a great opportunity for people

726
00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:34,164
to really workshop their ideas

727
00:23:34,545 --> 00:23:36,785
and think about this because you're you're just

728
00:23:36,785 --> 00:23:38,464
tempted to wanna come out and say something.

729
00:23:38,464 --> 00:23:40,305
You go, wait a second. Yeah. I shouldn't

730
00:23:40,545 --> 00:23:42,565
yeah. You you wanna go, well well,

731
00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:45,069
maybe I should just defraud the government, get

732
00:23:45,069 --> 00:23:47,069
on on on welfare too. If all these

733
00:23:47,069 --> 00:23:48,269
people, they made it look so easy. I

734
00:23:48,269 --> 00:23:49,390
mean, I feel like a sucker. And you

735
00:23:49,390 --> 00:23:51,170
go, no. No. No. No. No. No. I'm

736
00:23:51,309 --> 00:23:52,369
that I'm being

737
00:23:52,990 --> 00:23:55,069
I'm I'm walking myself into a trap here.

738
00:23:55,069 --> 00:23:56,429
Hang on a second. I feel you know?

739
00:23:56,429 --> 00:23:59,605
So to to be aware of the manipulation

740
00:23:59,904 --> 00:24:01,984
is to be to an extent a little

741
00:24:01,984 --> 00:24:04,304
bit more immune to from it. Yeah. Right.

742
00:24:04,304 --> 00:24:05,924
But but for most people,

743
00:24:06,384 --> 00:24:08,224
they just know they're angry. They don't even

744
00:24:08,224 --> 00:24:10,190
know why they're angry. Some cases, they don't

745
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:12,910
even know who they're actually angry at, just

746
00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:15,710
who they're told. Those people took your stuff.

747
00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:17,890
Those people want you to have less,

748
00:24:18,509 --> 00:24:20,509
and and they're here. And then you go,

749
00:24:20,509 --> 00:24:21,009
well,

750
00:24:22,715 --> 00:24:24,715
that's crazy. That shouldn't be happening. And then

751
00:24:24,715 --> 00:24:25,615
you observe

752
00:24:26,075 --> 00:24:27,055
your own government

753
00:24:27,434 --> 00:24:29,455
actually doing that, bending over backwards,

754
00:24:29,994 --> 00:24:32,875
giving them hotel rooms and and debit cards

755
00:24:32,875 --> 00:24:34,255
and cell phones and

756
00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:36,630
moving them around the country wherever they wanna

757
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:37,909
go and setting them up, and you go,

758
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:39,269
well, hang on a second. I didn't know

759
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:41,029
this was an option. You know? And and

760
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:42,470
and I'm down on my luck, and I've

761
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:44,789
been paying taxes, and I need unemployment. You're

762
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:47,474
denying me unemployment because I make too much

763
00:24:47,714 --> 00:24:50,375
from some of you know? But and therefore

764
00:24:50,674 --> 00:24:52,835
but this whole family can get you know?

765
00:24:52,835 --> 00:24:53,815
You see that

766
00:24:54,515 --> 00:24:55,494
the unfairness

767
00:24:56,275 --> 00:24:57,414
Mhmm. Gets gets

768
00:24:57,794 --> 00:24:58,294
internalized

769
00:24:58,674 --> 00:24:59,414
in people.

770
00:24:59,950 --> 00:25:01,789
And, you know, if you're looking for I

771
00:25:01,789 --> 00:25:03,230
don't wanna go Tim Pool here. If you're

772
00:25:03,309 --> 00:25:05,070
but if you're looking for a civil war

773
00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:07,630
and you're looking for that, you gotta wind

774
00:25:07,630 --> 00:25:09,390
people up for a while, and you gotta

775
00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:11,565
get them to just watch this and watch

776
00:25:11,804 --> 00:25:14,125
how unfair things have been and how crazy

777
00:25:14,125 --> 00:25:15,804
it's been and up is down and men

778
00:25:15,804 --> 00:25:17,184
can get pregnant and all this.

779
00:25:17,484 --> 00:25:18,924
And and some of it is, like, you

780
00:25:18,924 --> 00:25:21,024
know, frustrating, but kind of annoying

781
00:25:21,565 --> 00:25:23,644
and laughable. And some of it really starts

782
00:25:23,644 --> 00:25:26,309
to impact you. And so and financially and

783
00:25:26,309 --> 00:25:28,549
and you start to extrapolate out, well, based

784
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:30,789
on the rate of how bad things are

785
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:32,710
going right now, we don't have much time

786
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:35,269
left and Yes. Everybody seems to be focusing

787
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:37,670
on the minutia at the expense of all

788
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,210
the important issues and,

789
00:25:39,994 --> 00:25:41,755
you know, and what what does that do?

790
00:25:41,755 --> 00:25:43,055
What does that well, I'll tell

791
00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:45,674
you what it does for one segment of

792
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:48,255
society. It keeps the government extremely relevant.

793
00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:50,634
Mhmm. Where they need them. They need the

794
00:25:50,634 --> 00:25:53,055
government. They need the the handouts. They need

795
00:25:53,195 --> 00:25:55,049
to be told where to go and what

796
00:25:55,049 --> 00:25:56,490
to do and what they can get. They

797
00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:58,730
need the they need that. And as long

798
00:25:58,730 --> 00:26:00,490
as those people are there needing the government,

799
00:26:00,490 --> 00:26:01,950
the government can stay relevant

800
00:26:02,329 --> 00:26:04,589
and bleed the rest of us,

801
00:26:05,929 --> 00:26:08,970
into supporting this, this insanity. And and heaven

802
00:26:08,970 --> 00:26:10,964
forbid that you see it and talk about

803
00:26:11,184 --> 00:26:13,024
it. Yeah. They wanna fit you for a

804
00:26:13,024 --> 00:26:14,944
a a straight jacket and a tinfoil hat.

805
00:26:14,944 --> 00:26:16,784
Yeah. Well, and and the other part too

806
00:26:16,784 --> 00:26:18,464
is that at a large scale, it seems

807
00:26:18,464 --> 00:26:19,984
to me, at least, across the board, we're

808
00:26:19,984 --> 00:26:22,559
seeing this justification. You know, might makes right.

809
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Excuse me. Peace through strength. The same same

810
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,640
stupid conversation. At the end of the day,

811
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,039
it's about creating the idea that, well, you

812
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:30,960
know, like, let's make it simple. That somebody

813
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:32,559
they could look at they just did this

814
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,320
wrong thing that we cry out and say

815
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,160
that's a crime, it's a war crime, and

816
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,519
now we're gonna do it back to them

817
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,795
because they started it, which is what I

818
00:26:39,795 --> 00:26:42,355
mean, it's happening everywhere. You know? And and

819
00:26:42,355 --> 00:26:44,275
the argument that, you know like, whatever it

820
00:26:44,275 --> 00:26:46,035
is, violating the constitution so we have to

821
00:26:46,035 --> 00:26:47,394
do that to save it. You know? It's

822
00:26:47,394 --> 00:26:49,714
it's the it's creating the mindset that we

823
00:26:49,714 --> 00:26:51,154
need to do the wrong thing to fight

824
00:26:51,154 --> 00:26:52,940
against the wrong thing, And it's exactly what

825
00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:54,619
was highlighted there. You know? The idea, well,

826
00:26:54,619 --> 00:26:55,980
they're why why would I have to do

827
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:57,180
this because they didn't get to do it?

828
00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:59,259
Well, because you have morals and integrity and

829
00:26:59,259 --> 00:27:00,859
principles. Like, the idea that you would go,

830
00:27:00,859 --> 00:27:03,099
they're terrible, so I'm gonna do it. Well,

831
00:27:03,099 --> 00:27:04,700
then you're terrible. Like, you've just made the

832
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:06,194
point. Like, it's but it's it it it

833
00:27:06,194 --> 00:27:08,674
becomes logical. It feels that way when it's

834
00:27:08,674 --> 00:27:10,914
being presented as if you're being stolen from

835
00:27:10,914 --> 00:27:13,075
or you're being manipulated, and so you almost

836
00:27:13,075 --> 00:27:14,994
wanna stop that or get that. We all

837
00:27:14,994 --> 00:27:16,275
have that kind of inclination to be like,

838
00:27:16,275 --> 00:27:17,714
well, I wanna shove it in their face

839
00:27:17,714 --> 00:27:18,914
and tell them that they're wrong. You know?

840
00:27:18,914 --> 00:27:20,570
It's like, but sometimes that's not the right

841
00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:21,850
thing to do. And on top of that,

842
00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:23,450
the government is waiting in the wings going

843
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:24,970
like, just go after them. Go and attack

844
00:27:24,970 --> 00:27:26,330
them. You know? And and it's being used.

845
00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:27,690
But I I just think that's important. You

846
00:27:27,690 --> 00:27:29,130
made a good point there about how the

847
00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:30,910
the psychology of it is creating

848
00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:33,369
they as always, they want us to call

849
00:27:33,369 --> 00:27:35,585
for our own subjugation. Right? And that's happening

850
00:27:35,585 --> 00:27:38,545
constantly today. And our reality is being curated

851
00:27:38,545 --> 00:27:40,465
too. Each each one of us has has

852
00:27:40,465 --> 00:27:42,545
sort of an it's like, what reality is

853
00:27:42,545 --> 00:27:44,005
that guy living in? Well,

854
00:27:44,785 --> 00:27:47,684
actually, the answer is a totally different reality

855
00:27:47,904 --> 00:27:49,744
based on what he's being served up by

856
00:27:49,744 --> 00:27:51,799
his algorithms and things like that. And, you

857
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:53,240
know, it used to kind of be a

858
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,059
throwaway line that someone's in a different universe.

859
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,519
But but depending on their information diet, they've

860
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,839
they really may very well be if you've

861
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:04,605
if you've ever had that, you know, as

862
00:28:04,605 --> 00:28:06,605
we've wrapped up the holidays here, you've you've

863
00:28:06,605 --> 00:28:08,684
probably had these forced interactions with members of

864
00:28:08,684 --> 00:28:11,005
your extended family where you start to ask

865
00:28:11,005 --> 00:28:13,244
questions or have conversations. You maybe get a

866
00:28:13,244 --> 00:28:15,805
little gauge, their level of understanding of certain

867
00:28:15,805 --> 00:28:18,589
things. And if you you come away from

868
00:28:18,589 --> 00:28:20,269
that in the aftermath, you go, boy, you

869
00:28:20,269 --> 00:28:20,769
know,

870
00:28:22,109 --> 00:28:24,669
propaganda works. Mhmm. It's I see it with

871
00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:26,529
my own eyes. It's quite something.

872
00:28:26,829 --> 00:28:27,329
And

873
00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:30,194
in fact, that that that old adage of,

874
00:28:30,194 --> 00:28:32,035
you know, you just you think you're you're

875
00:28:32,035 --> 00:28:33,494
living in a different universe,

876
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:34,535
you know,

877
00:28:34,994 --> 00:28:36,434
it might have been a it might have

878
00:28:36,434 --> 00:28:39,255
been just a kind of a a laughable

879
00:28:39,315 --> 00:28:41,974
statement in the past, but but they've never

880
00:28:42,849 --> 00:28:44,929
had the technology to do it like they

881
00:28:44,929 --> 00:28:46,389
like they can right now

882
00:28:47,009 --> 00:28:48,869
to really make everybody's

883
00:28:49,649 --> 00:28:51,669
version of what they see in the news,

884
00:28:52,129 --> 00:28:54,929
the the opinions that they get, of a

885
00:28:54,929 --> 00:28:55,429
certain,

886
00:28:56,049 --> 00:28:56,710
you know,

887
00:28:57,494 --> 00:29:00,075
ICE shooting in Minneapolis as a prime example.

888
00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:02,615
Depending on who you are and what your

889
00:29:02,615 --> 00:29:03,275
sort of

890
00:29:03,974 --> 00:29:05,035
leanings are,

891
00:29:05,575 --> 00:29:07,994
your version of that events are are,

892
00:29:08,295 --> 00:29:11,029
you know, completely different from somebody else's. So

893
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:13,130
it's it's an interesting time to be,

894
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:15,670
paying attention. You really have to make sure

895
00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:17,430
that when you're talking to people in your

896
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:20,090
in your orbit, you that they are operating

897
00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:21,990
off of the same source material that you

898
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:23,684
are or at least as close to it.

899
00:29:24,164 --> 00:29:24,825
Is possible.

900
00:29:25,205 --> 00:29:27,225
I just don't know that that's possible these

901
00:29:27,605 --> 00:29:29,365
days. Well, because because to your very point,

902
00:29:29,365 --> 00:29:31,785
though, it's gone so far beyond just, like,

903
00:29:32,164 --> 00:29:34,085
I'm getting a different source or what I'm

904
00:29:34,085 --> 00:29:36,005
being shown looks different to the point to

905
00:29:36,005 --> 00:29:37,144
where because of psychological

906
00:29:37,445 --> 00:29:38,990
or just social engineering,

907
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:41,769
cult mentality. I don't know. But to the

908
00:29:41,769 --> 00:29:43,049
point to where you can look at it

909
00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:44,029
at the same video

910
00:29:44,410 --> 00:29:46,250
and walk away, feel you know, like, it's

911
00:29:46,329 --> 00:29:48,009
I think, honestly, I think part of it

912
00:29:48,009 --> 00:29:50,554
drives from wanting to support your side and

913
00:29:50,554 --> 00:29:52,554
going, well, I'm gonna rationalize why even though

914
00:29:52,554 --> 00:29:53,835
it's not what I thought it was, it's

915
00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,595
still he still probably was fearing for his

916
00:29:55,595 --> 00:29:57,755
life or whatever the mindset is. And yet,

917
00:29:57,755 --> 00:29:58,795
you know but at the end of the

918
00:29:58,795 --> 00:30:00,795
day, you're watching something that I think is

919
00:30:00,795 --> 00:30:02,474
pretty self evident, and then you get this

920
00:30:02,474 --> 00:30:04,859
weird discussion around it. And, you know, people

921
00:30:04,859 --> 00:30:06,619
will always argue, you know I mean, look,

922
00:30:06,619 --> 00:30:08,619
I'll say it's possible. Maybe I'm taken aside

923
00:30:08,619 --> 00:30:10,059
and don't realize it. Maybe I'm blinded by,

924
00:30:10,059 --> 00:30:11,500
you know, one thing or the other. But

925
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:12,779
you know both of us. We try to

926
00:30:12,779 --> 00:30:15,019
operate from a nonpartisan objective perspective. And when

927
00:30:15,019 --> 00:30:16,619
you look at information, it's not about what

928
00:30:16,619 --> 00:30:18,380
side I'm on or whether I just support

929
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:19,660
one group or the other or, you know,

930
00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:21,765
whatever. It's about what does this actually look

931
00:30:21,765 --> 00:30:23,044
like and what is the reality of the

932
00:30:23,044 --> 00:30:25,125
facts. And so let's talk about that because

933
00:30:25,125 --> 00:30:26,345
I think it's confounding

934
00:30:26,644 --> 00:30:27,544
that we're watching

935
00:30:28,164 --> 00:30:30,244
a video that and and we'll go over

936
00:30:30,244 --> 00:30:31,365
it if you want to, and I did

937
00:30:31,365 --> 00:30:33,044
many, many times already. Four that I can

938
00:30:33,044 --> 00:30:34,024
prove bombastically

939
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,120
where ISIS claimed they ran were ran over

940
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,880
and they lied about it, and two of

941
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,039
those cases shot people in the context of

942
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,660
it. Car full of family,

943
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,320
a woman that they claimed had a gun

944
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,240
that they didn't, and and they, like, rammed

945
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,785
her or got out and shot her, And

946
00:30:47,785 --> 00:30:49,224
they glided and said she rammed you know?

947
00:30:49,224 --> 00:30:50,825
And these are provable events. They came out

948
00:30:50,825 --> 00:30:52,265
in court. You know? And so you watch

949
00:30:52,265 --> 00:30:55,384
this video where the conversation about her being

950
00:30:55,384 --> 00:30:57,224
an observer, which is clear, she's not breaking

951
00:30:57,224 --> 00:30:58,984
the law, and ICE is constantly being shown

952
00:30:58,984 --> 00:31:00,095
to break the law. So I think there's

953
00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:01,980
a purpose of cop watching, which used to

954
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:03,580
be more her right wing thing. That's funny.

955
00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:05,420
Right? But, overall, you know, that you can

956
00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:07,500
see this event play down or play out,

957
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:09,980
and that she tries to drive, and the

958
00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:12,619
guy is close, and ultimately opens fire in

959
00:31:12,619 --> 00:31:14,059
her car as well as after she drives

960
00:31:14,059 --> 00:31:15,500
away. Now, I don't think he was in

961
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,355
any danger. I think it was obvious that

962
00:31:17,355 --> 00:31:18,715
she was driving away from them, and I

963
00:31:18,715 --> 00:31:20,154
think that the way that they I mean,

964
00:31:20,154 --> 00:31:21,835
I think it's quite obvious that they instigated

965
00:31:21,835 --> 00:31:23,674
this event because they continually are shown to

966
00:31:23,674 --> 00:31:25,434
be frustrated with people who are doing what

967
00:31:25,434 --> 00:31:27,595
they're doing, and that's self evident other examples.

968
00:31:27,595 --> 00:31:29,595
They continue to harass people that are simply

969
00:31:29,595 --> 00:31:31,515
just there. So I want your thoughts on,

970
00:31:31,515 --> 00:31:32,095
you know,

971
00:31:33,059 --> 00:31:34,660
the validity of that, you know, what we

972
00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:36,419
saw, you know, and and and whether I

973
00:31:36,419 --> 00:31:37,700
mean, maybe you disagree with me. Do you

974
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:39,380
think that this person was justified in killing

975
00:31:39,380 --> 00:31:40,819
that US citizen? I just think this is

976
00:31:40,819 --> 00:31:41,480
a crazy,

977
00:31:41,859 --> 00:31:43,700
crazy leap. And I'm even seeing people like

978
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:45,460
judge Napolitano and plenty of others who are

979
00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:47,285
just like, ice murder. You know, like, way

980
00:31:47,285 --> 00:31:48,805
on the side people are calling democrat. You

981
00:31:48,805 --> 00:31:50,484
know? So it's an interesting series of events

982
00:31:50,484 --> 00:31:52,505
and important for where this goes.

983
00:31:52,805 --> 00:31:54,585
After watching the Daniel Shaver

984
00:31:54,964 --> 00:31:57,045
murder, you know, I I just I I

985
00:31:57,045 --> 00:31:58,664
know that the Vegas. Right?

986
00:31:59,099 --> 00:32:00,539
Yeah. Yeah. That was I think it was

987
00:32:00,539 --> 00:32:01,039
Colorado.

988
00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:03,259
I'm now I'm thinking of the Vegas one.

989
00:32:03,259 --> 00:32:04,220
Sorry. Go ahead. I was thinking of the

990
00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:05,279
one the guy in the hallway

991
00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:07,980
who there was telling giving orders to to

992
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:09,500
to get on his knees and laid it.

993
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:10,940
And they just want Las Vegas. Am I

994
00:32:10,940 --> 00:32:12,539
misremembering that? Anyway, please go ahead. Sorry. I

995
00:32:12,539 --> 00:32:14,355
I think I'm in one. Well, I the

996
00:32:14,355 --> 00:32:16,115
only reason I thought it was in Colorado

997
00:32:16,115 --> 00:32:17,315
is because a bunch of the people in

998
00:32:17,315 --> 00:32:17,815
Denver,

999
00:32:19,315 --> 00:32:21,474
I could be wrong. The the, group I

1000
00:32:21,474 --> 00:32:23,335
go to, they all knew him.

1001
00:32:23,714 --> 00:32:25,154
Okay. Yeah. No. I could definitely be wrong.

1002
00:32:25,154 --> 00:32:26,194
That's just what I was remembering. But but

1003
00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,319
but That's an important event. It it made

1004
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,400
me you know, like, you can watch a

1005
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,779
video of a man

1006
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:35,440
doing everything he's told to do, fully complying

1007
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,759
with the with the police and winding up

1008
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:38,980
getting murder

1009
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,095
on video. And then, of course, in the

1010
00:32:41,095 --> 00:32:43,434
aftermath of what happened with the cop getting

1011
00:32:43,734 --> 00:32:44,554
having nothing

1012
00:32:44,934 --> 00:32:46,774
done to him and getting collecting a pension

1013
00:32:46,774 --> 00:32:47,674
and all this

1014
00:32:47,974 --> 00:32:49,434
gross and disgusting. So

1015
00:32:49,734 --> 00:32:52,794
my default mechanism whenever I see cop interactions

1016
00:32:53,095 --> 00:32:54,954
is that I'm always going to be,

1017
00:32:55,815 --> 00:32:56,315
very,

1018
00:32:57,470 --> 00:33:00,269
very skeptical of of the police. I don't,

1019
00:33:00,590 --> 00:33:02,590
I'm not I understand that they have been

1020
00:33:02,590 --> 00:33:04,670
trained. In some some cases, the the police

1021
00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:06,269
forces, depending on where you are, have been

1022
00:33:06,269 --> 00:33:08,369
trained by Yep. Israeli

1023
00:33:08,670 --> 00:33:09,170
forces

1024
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,355
in in in Israeli teams that that that

1025
00:33:12,434 --> 00:33:13,095
you know,

1026
00:33:15,075 --> 00:33:16,835
you you know, it used to be Andy

1027
00:33:16,835 --> 00:33:19,394
Griffith, the the policeman with the blue hat,

1028
00:33:19,394 --> 00:33:21,575
and he'd how you doing? Oh, you have

1029
00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:23,315
a tire flat tire? Let me help you

1030
00:33:23,315 --> 00:33:24,835
with the tire. You know? Have a good

1031
00:33:24,835 --> 00:33:26,250
day, ma'am. And now it's

1032
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:28,430
police with black hoods

1033
00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:30,190
on and black

1034
00:33:30,490 --> 00:33:33,130
uniforms, and they're dressed like they're in the

1035
00:33:33,130 --> 00:33:35,309
military through the from the

1036
00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:39,315
the October program that recycled all this

1037
00:33:40,355 --> 00:33:42,434
military gear into the police force. So it's

1038
00:33:42,434 --> 00:33:45,394
like you've you're trained by the military, the

1039
00:33:45,394 --> 00:33:48,694
Israeli military. You're armed by the US military.

1040
00:33:49,075 --> 00:33:51,654
You're sent out onto the streets of America

1041
00:33:52,115 --> 00:33:55,049
like you're in a war. My question is,

1042
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:56,029
who's the enemy?

1043
00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:56,990
Exactly.

1044
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:59,289
It's very true. And and when you when

1045
00:33:59,289 --> 00:34:01,369
you have that mentality now in a and

1046
00:34:01,369 --> 00:34:03,049
and so but I also have to say

1047
00:34:03,049 --> 00:34:04,830
this as well on the other side,

1048
00:34:07,049 --> 00:34:09,150
and and I'm not in any way justifying

1049
00:34:09,855 --> 00:34:11,855
what police do or ICE do, you know,

1050
00:34:11,855 --> 00:34:13,554
did or or anything like that.

1051
00:34:14,255 --> 00:34:14,755
However,

1052
00:34:15,375 --> 00:34:17,614
there is something to be said for not

1053
00:34:17,614 --> 00:34:20,114
putting yourself in really bad situations

1054
00:34:20,414 --> 00:34:21,074
as well.

1055
00:34:21,454 --> 00:34:23,809
People need to take responsibility for their own

1056
00:34:23,809 --> 00:34:25,489
actions on this stuff. Do I well, first

1057
00:34:25,489 --> 00:34:27,010
of all, I would just advise people, don't

1058
00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:28,929
go to these things. Don't go to these

1059
00:34:28,929 --> 00:34:31,590
events. Don't go to these marches. They're honeypotch.

1060
00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:34,210
I mean, you're getting your surveillance. Your phones

1061
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:37,055
are being tagged. Everything about it, it's bad.

1062
00:34:37,055 --> 00:34:38,095
Let me give you a minute really quickly,

1063
00:34:38,095 --> 00:34:39,375
Charlie. I get where you're coming from. And

1064
00:34:39,375 --> 00:34:41,215
I do I agree with the sentiment because,

1065
00:34:41,215 --> 00:34:43,474
you know, just from a self preservation perspective,

1066
00:34:43,535 --> 00:34:45,454
like, consider it's like we say with the

1067
00:34:45,535 --> 00:34:47,055
with anything we deal with the police or

1068
00:34:47,055 --> 00:34:49,295
taxes, like, well, you could argue you're correct

1069
00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:50,815
in a moral stance, but they still may

1070
00:34:50,815 --> 00:34:52,349
come and shoot you. Right? So consider that

1071
00:34:52,349 --> 00:34:53,630
that is how that may come out. But

1072
00:34:53,630 --> 00:34:54,909
the I don't think the argument, at least

1073
00:34:54,909 --> 00:34:56,989
from my perspective, would be because they may

1074
00:34:56,989 --> 00:34:59,889
break the like, may violently, you know, illegitimately

1075
00:35:00,909 --> 00:35:02,029
I don't even I don't wanna say hold

1076
00:35:02,029 --> 00:35:04,210
you accountable, but react to what you're doing,

1077
00:35:04,325 --> 00:35:05,684
would the answer be to not do the

1078
00:35:05,684 --> 00:35:07,525
right thing? You know? Because, like, in my

1079
00:35:07,525 --> 00:35:08,025
perspective,

1080
00:35:08,565 --> 00:35:10,644
standing and watching and trying to hold accountable

1081
00:35:10,644 --> 00:35:12,885
people who are verifiably breaking the law with

1082
00:35:12,885 --> 00:35:15,125
the most basic of senses, not identifying themselves,

1083
00:35:15,125 --> 00:35:17,845
not presenting warrants, those are straight up major

1084
00:35:17,845 --> 00:35:20,369
crimes, constitutionally and otherwise. And how that's being

1085
00:35:20,369 --> 00:35:22,210
disregarded blows my mind. And so I'm not

1086
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:23,730
gonna say there aren't observers out there who

1087
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:25,409
are crossing the line, who are being, you

1088
00:35:25,409 --> 00:35:27,170
know, violent in some cases. So you can

1089
00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:29,329
find that in every circumstance. But people doing

1090
00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:31,409
that, I think, is important personally. So I

1091
00:35:31,409 --> 00:35:32,855
would argue that the right thing needs to

1092
00:35:32,855 --> 00:35:34,574
be done whether or not they're out there

1093
00:35:34,574 --> 00:35:36,815
reacting in a negative violent way. But I

1094
00:35:36,815 --> 00:35:38,494
agree with you that keep in mind that

1095
00:35:38,494 --> 00:35:39,934
that may actually be the outcome, and that's

1096
00:35:40,094 --> 00:35:41,295
I think that's the whole point of what

1097
00:35:41,295 --> 00:35:43,054
they just did, quite frankly. And you can

1098
00:35:43,054 --> 00:35:46,195
be there as an observer, as as as

1099
00:35:47,059 --> 00:35:49,780
calm, rational, and then not interfering as you

1100
00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:50,280
want.

1101
00:35:50,659 --> 00:35:51,559
And the situation

1102
00:35:52,420 --> 00:35:52,920
escalates

1103
00:35:54,019 --> 00:35:55,480
simply because you have

1104
00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:57,400
hopped up police,

1105
00:35:57,860 --> 00:35:59,239
and you've got very angry

1106
00:36:01,364 --> 00:36:02,885
people that have been whipped up into a

1107
00:36:02,885 --> 00:36:04,724
frenzy for some reason. And when you put

1108
00:36:04,724 --> 00:36:07,385
them together, bad things happen. And in fact,

1109
00:36:07,525 --> 00:36:09,925
in some cases, bad things happen by design

1110
00:36:09,925 --> 00:36:12,500
that they want this. They would So I'm

1111
00:36:12,579 --> 00:36:14,980
I just would tell people, like, just if

1112
00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:16,679
you're in a situation like this,

1113
00:36:17,059 --> 00:36:19,859
just be careful because Yeah. They the it's

1114
00:36:19,859 --> 00:36:20,359
not

1115
00:36:20,819 --> 00:36:22,679
that the police are there to

1116
00:36:24,675 --> 00:36:27,315
talk some sense into these people and diffuse

1117
00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:29,555
the situation. They're going to escalate it. And

1118
00:36:29,555 --> 00:36:31,494
if they escalate it and you're near it,

1119
00:36:31,954 --> 00:36:33,715
bad things can happen. And and I don't

1120
00:36:33,715 --> 00:36:35,474
want people of course, obviously, I mean, I

1121
00:36:35,474 --> 00:36:37,494
want people to to to hold

1122
00:36:37,795 --> 00:36:39,255
these lunatics accountable

1123
00:36:39,555 --> 00:36:41,710
Right. For for being out there.

1124
00:36:42,809 --> 00:36:45,690
But understand that they're lunatics, and they they

1125
00:36:45,690 --> 00:36:48,170
they won't they won't be held accountable for

1126
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:49,789
for turning a gun on you.

1127
00:36:50,569 --> 00:36:53,130
Right. Right. We've we've we've witnessed this over

1128
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:54,589
and over again. So it's like,

1129
00:36:55,364 --> 00:36:57,445
be frustrated, but be strategic as well. And

1130
00:36:57,445 --> 00:36:59,204
don't put yourself and don't don't become a

1131
00:36:59,204 --> 00:37:01,844
pawn of some op Yeah. That they're running

1132
00:37:01,844 --> 00:37:04,644
to to where they wanna get everybody that's

1133
00:37:04,644 --> 00:37:06,405
in there and paint you all with the

1134
00:37:06,405 --> 00:37:07,844
same brush. Like, you may be there. Just

1135
00:37:07,844 --> 00:37:09,284
say, hey. Listen. I wanna see what's going

1136
00:37:09,284 --> 00:37:10,565
on and make sure nobody I know gets

1137
00:37:10,565 --> 00:37:12,569
hurt. And next thing they know, they've pinged

1138
00:37:12,569 --> 00:37:14,489
all everybody's cell phone there, and they said

1139
00:37:14,489 --> 00:37:16,510
you're all you're all part of Antifa.

1140
00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:18,889
And I'm like, I'm part of Antifa. I

1141
00:37:18,889 --> 00:37:20,409
just I live down the street, and they're

1142
00:37:20,409 --> 00:37:22,329
like, you don't care. With that. I agree.

1143
00:37:22,329 --> 00:37:24,010
That's an excellent point. But is that them

1144
00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:25,049
being part of an op, or is that

1145
00:37:25,049 --> 00:37:27,535
them being is that the government op pretending

1146
00:37:27,535 --> 00:37:28,894
you're part of something? Now I wanna be

1147
00:37:28,894 --> 00:37:30,815
clear because I in case there's somebody new,

1148
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:32,175
you and I both agree I mean, look,

1149
00:37:32,175 --> 00:37:32,675
Antifa,

1150
00:37:33,454 --> 00:37:35,295
Patriot Front, I mean, like, it is all

1151
00:37:35,295 --> 00:37:37,454
over the place, and they're very much being

1152
00:37:37,454 --> 00:37:39,375
manipulated. And there's a very clear example we

1153
00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:41,135
made about extremism that exist in all of

1154
00:37:41,135 --> 00:37:43,030
this. It's not like there's not some actual

1155
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:44,630
issue with Antifa, but the way that they're

1156
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:47,190
using it, as we've discussed, is it's not

1157
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:48,949
about Antifa at all, quite frankly. You know?

1158
00:37:48,949 --> 00:37:51,589
And so what we're seeing is using this.

1159
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:53,030
Like, so I would argue I agree with

1160
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:54,805
your point. Don't allow yourself to be caught

1161
00:37:54,805 --> 00:37:56,965
up in some kind of entity that's out

1162
00:37:56,965 --> 00:37:59,045
there trying to use your genuine intention to

1163
00:37:59,045 --> 00:38:01,204
hold people accountable because that very much exists

1164
00:38:01,204 --> 00:38:03,765
on the left. That is transparently clear. But

1165
00:38:03,765 --> 00:38:05,605
at the same time, I argue if you're

1166
00:38:05,605 --> 00:38:06,965
willing to put yourself at risk, that is

1167
00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:08,480
an important way to frame that. That I

1168
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,559
do think it's it's the right thing to

1169
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:12,239
do, to stand up and stand and to

1170
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,400
stand correctly. And I would even say there's

1171
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,920
a point you made about interference, but let's

1172
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,659
just say legally speaking, stand without doing that

1173
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,894
and hold them accountable. But Derek in the

1174
00:38:20,894 --> 00:38:22,255
past has made a good point. And I

1175
00:38:22,255 --> 00:38:23,295
don't know. I mean, they don't even have

1176
00:38:23,295 --> 00:38:24,894
the same opinion today, you know, because we've

1177
00:38:24,894 --> 00:38:26,414
all evolved in a lot of ways. But

1178
00:38:26,414 --> 00:38:28,574
that there is an importance to confronting something

1179
00:38:28,574 --> 00:38:30,494
like that, especially if we're in a position

1180
00:38:30,494 --> 00:38:32,275
where what they're doing is illegal.

1181
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:35,179
Right? So this is no longer some upstanding

1182
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,800
member of the government authority of, you know,

1183
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,199
up indoor enforcing the law. They're out there

1184
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,280
break breaking the law. They're the ones committing

1185
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,199
terrorism. And, I mean, not everybody, and it's

1186
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:45,800
never a broad brush point. It's about the

1187
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,577
people that are doing that. And so I'm

1188
00:38:47,577 --> 00:38:49,353
not saying you should go out there and

1189
00:38:49,353 --> 00:38:51,130
engage with them because I think that's the

1190
00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:52,906
last thing we should be doing because they

1191
00:38:52,906 --> 00:38:54,682
use that to, you know, do whatever they

1192
00:38:54,682 --> 00:38:56,681
wanna do. But I'm just I don't wanna

1193
00:38:56,681 --> 00:38:58,457
dissuade people out there. I don't wanna create

1194
00:38:58,457 --> 00:39:00,670
the sentiment that people should be cowing to

1195
00:39:00,670 --> 00:39:02,910
what they're doing because of their responses. And

1196
00:39:02,910 --> 00:39:04,269
I I'm sure you probably agree with that.

1197
00:39:04,269 --> 00:39:05,630
Right? I mean, I'm Yeah. In what we

1198
00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:07,949
believe in. Yeah. I I want people to

1199
00:39:07,949 --> 00:39:10,929
also understand that these people are diabolical,

1200
00:39:11,309 --> 00:39:13,309
and they'll they'll they'll fight you any way

1201
00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:14,945
they can fight you. And one way that

1202
00:39:14,945 --> 00:39:17,045
they'll do that is legally through,

1203
00:39:18,224 --> 00:39:21,045
terms and designations. So as as an example,

1204
00:39:21,664 --> 00:39:22,164
you

1205
00:39:22,545 --> 00:39:23,765
may think that

1206
00:39:24,144 --> 00:39:26,704
somebody calls you a domestic terrorist. That's just

1207
00:39:26,704 --> 00:39:29,069
a a slanderous insult that somebody, you know,

1208
00:39:29,069 --> 00:39:30,449
online calls you that.

1209
00:39:30,750 --> 00:39:32,929
But if the if if law enforcement

1210
00:39:34,109 --> 00:39:35,170
decides to to

1211
00:39:36,109 --> 00:39:38,210
describe you as a domestic terrorist

1212
00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:41,005
In the aftermath of the Patriot Act, we're

1213
00:39:41,005 --> 00:39:42,925
now it's not just, it's not just some

1214
00:39:42,925 --> 00:39:45,485
term. It's not some throwaway line. It is

1215
00:39:45,485 --> 00:39:47,265
a legal definition. You are

1216
00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:50,364
a you are operating in the homeland, which

1217
00:39:50,364 --> 00:39:51,265
is a battlefield,

1218
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,680
and you have now been designated by law

1219
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,380
enforcement as a domestic terrorist.

1220
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
So under the Patriot Act, you find yourself

1221
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,640
without any rights and that that you you

1222
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,539
all of a sudden

1223
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,019
are are in the same category

1224
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,300
as,

1225
00:40:06,144 --> 00:40:08,625
you know, you're you're as somebody who's planting

1226
00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:10,805
truck bombs, you know. And and so

1227
00:40:11,345 --> 00:40:13,285
we're now in a world where

1228
00:40:13,664 --> 00:40:15,925
you all you also have to be careful

1229
00:40:16,065 --> 00:40:17,605
that they don't try to

1230
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,599
legally designate you as something that you are

1231
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:22,000
not,

1232
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,639
because if they do that, then it's not

1233
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:26,900
just, it's not just, you know,

1234
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,460
an insult. It's it's a a designation

1235
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,739
that may have

1236
00:40:31,224 --> 00:40:33,144
may impact your freedom. You know, I agree

1237
00:40:33,144 --> 00:40:35,545
a 100. But, again, the point is don't

1238
00:40:35,545 --> 00:40:37,545
do something because they may be dishonest. Well,

1239
00:40:37,545 --> 00:40:39,385
they're gonna be dishonest regardless. But but trust

1240
00:40:39,385 --> 00:40:40,585
me, I agree with what you're saying. Like,

1241
00:40:40,585 --> 00:40:42,425
I get the sentiment's important. But I just

1242
00:40:42,505 --> 00:40:43,704
you know, it's clear that they're going to

1243
00:40:43,704 --> 00:40:45,929
be dishonest and misrepresent regardless. They call us

1244
00:40:45,929 --> 00:40:47,690
terrorists, Charlie, so it's pretty clear that that's,

1245
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:48,969
you know, you could be out there just

1246
00:40:48,969 --> 00:40:50,409
standing on the sidewalk like you're saying and

1247
00:40:50,409 --> 00:40:51,929
get caught up in it because they decide

1248
00:40:51,929 --> 00:40:53,690
to do so. You know? So it becomes

1249
00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:55,369
very clear that it needs to be personal

1250
00:40:55,369 --> 00:40:57,369
decisions for what you believe is right. And

1251
00:40:57,369 --> 00:40:59,449
understand that there are gonna be consequences for

1252
00:40:59,449 --> 00:41:00,844
things you do that are wrong, and there

1253
00:41:00,844 --> 00:41:02,444
may be consequences for things that you don't

1254
00:41:02,444 --> 00:41:04,444
do that aren't wrong. You know? So factor

1255
00:41:04,444 --> 00:41:06,284
that in and and act accordingly. And don't

1256
00:41:06,284 --> 00:41:08,684
get baited into violence. Don't get don't get

1257
00:41:08,684 --> 00:41:10,525
sucked into that stuff because there are agent

1258
00:41:10,525 --> 00:41:12,364
provocateurs out there that will say, you know,

1259
00:41:12,364 --> 00:41:14,045
this way to the capital and whatnot. And

1260
00:41:14,045 --> 00:41:16,019
and sort of get you and take that

1261
00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:18,599
that maybe maybe authentic frustration

1262
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:21,219
and channel that into some destructive ways. You

1263
00:41:21,219 --> 00:41:21,699
know, everyone

1264
00:41:22,179 --> 00:41:23,480
I'm I'll be,

1265
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:26,280
a month from now, I'll be emceeing Anarkapulco,

1266
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:28,199
the largest anarchist

1267
00:41:28,514 --> 00:41:31,315
conference in the world. And everyone says, oh,

1268
00:41:31,315 --> 00:41:33,875
you anarchists. You're just you're what you guys

1269
00:41:33,875 --> 00:41:37,255
do workshops on building and throwing Molotov cocktails

1270
00:41:37,554 --> 00:41:39,554
and tire burnings and things like that. It's

1271
00:41:39,554 --> 00:41:41,154
like, no. We're not doing any of that

1272
00:41:41,154 --> 00:41:42,534
stuff. They don't understand anything.

1273
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:45,210
They don't understand what it means, but there's

1274
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:46,250
this there's this,

1275
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:47,869
there's this

1276
00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:50,570
vision in a lot of people's minds that

1277
00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:52,730
that you're that the only way to get

1278
00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:54,829
some real change is to get out there

1279
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:56,430
in the streets with your hood

1280
00:41:57,434 --> 00:41:58,255
on and,

1281
00:41:59,195 --> 00:42:00,875
and fight with the police. And I'm telling

1282
00:42:00,875 --> 00:42:03,035
you, that's a trap. Absolutely. That's that's a

1283
00:42:03,035 --> 00:42:04,795
good way to get caught up in something

1284
00:42:04,795 --> 00:42:06,494
that's much bigger than you understand.

1285
00:42:06,875 --> 00:42:08,474
And what do you know? The leaders who

1286
00:42:08,474 --> 00:42:10,235
are leading you into battle are whisked away

1287
00:42:10,235 --> 00:42:11,880
out the back door, and they never see

1288
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,639
any any jail time, but you're sitting in

1289
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,179
a cell somewhere. So don't

1290
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:17,639
Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Just don't fall into

1291
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:19,159
that. That's all I'm saying. Alright. I'm sorry.

1292
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,179
Strictly, Jason, careful. I mean, join the conversation.

1293
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,119
So the the Patriot front and Antifa as

1294
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:25,835
we just discussed. Right? Look at what they're

1295
00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:27,514
being look at what they're like, we know

1296
00:42:27,514 --> 00:42:29,355
we we can prove an overlap. We keep

1297
00:42:29,355 --> 00:42:31,275
finding repeatedly that there's, like, an FBI agent

1298
00:42:31,275 --> 00:42:32,875
or somebody in the cover. Like, it continues

1299
00:42:32,875 --> 00:42:34,494
to happen. Right? And so at this point,

1300
00:42:34,554 --> 00:42:36,554
when you're talking about masked entities, like, why

1301
00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:39,059
would we as individuals fall into doing what

1302
00:42:39,059 --> 00:42:41,299
they're, like, literally dangling in front of you?

1303
00:42:41,299 --> 00:42:42,579
Go out there and be violent with masks,

1304
00:42:42,579 --> 00:42:44,420
and, you know, like, join these groups. It's

1305
00:42:44,420 --> 00:42:46,659
so, I think, very obviously meant to drive

1306
00:42:46,659 --> 00:42:48,579
as to exactly what you just described. We

1307
00:42:48,579 --> 00:42:50,655
are being played against ourselves, you know, and

1308
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:52,675
that's just so important across this conversation.

1309
00:42:52,974 --> 00:42:54,195
And and the psychological

1310
00:42:54,655 --> 00:42:57,614
component of diffuse responsibility as well. Somebody who

1311
00:42:57,614 --> 00:42:59,695
really wants to burn down a building, but

1312
00:42:59,695 --> 00:43:01,409
probably doesn't have the guts to do it.

1313
00:43:01,489 --> 00:43:02,849
But if there's a 100 of you doing

1314
00:43:02,849 --> 00:43:04,449
it, I only did one one hundredth of

1315
00:43:04,449 --> 00:43:06,289
the actual damage, and it was really all

1316
00:43:06,289 --> 00:43:07,650
the other guys. And the way you can

1317
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:10,530
rationalize that, normalize that sort of violence is

1318
00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:12,869
not something that the average person really comprehends.

1319
00:43:13,089 --> 00:43:14,690
But I I assure you that the people

1320
00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:17,030
in charge do. They know how you'll behave

1321
00:43:17,445 --> 00:43:19,125
if they if they add a couple different

1322
00:43:19,125 --> 00:43:21,925
variables in there. So so being careful to

1323
00:43:21,925 --> 00:43:23,684
not find yourself and I tell you this,

1324
00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:25,525
as somebody I lived through the LA riots,

1325
00:43:25,525 --> 00:43:27,364
the ninety two riots. I was in South

1326
00:43:27,364 --> 00:43:29,605
Central when it's like, one day, everything's fine,

1327
00:43:29,605 --> 00:43:32,460
the next day, everything's crazy. And it was

1328
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:35,420
because you you got the point about halfway

1329
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:37,099
through the first day of the LA riots

1330
00:43:37,099 --> 00:43:37,599
that

1331
00:43:38,380 --> 00:43:40,460
no cops can actually do anything to us

1332
00:43:40,460 --> 00:43:42,300
for anything that we do, so we can

1333
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,139
do whatever we want, and then it just

1334
00:43:44,139 --> 00:43:46,219
kinda kicked off. So Yeah. So you have

1335
00:43:46,219 --> 00:43:47,199
to sort of also

1336
00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:51,434
make allowances for the psychology

1337
00:43:51,735 --> 00:43:55,035
of of crowds and how people get manipulated

1338
00:43:55,094 --> 00:43:56,775
and weaponized into things. And you need to

1339
00:43:56,775 --> 00:43:58,295
make sure that, you know, there's nothing more

1340
00:43:58,295 --> 00:44:01,175
dangerous than, stupid people in large groups. Right?

1341
00:44:01,175 --> 00:44:03,239
You need to get yourself out of situations

1342
00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:05,480
like that and understand what's happening,

1343
00:44:06,099 --> 00:44:07,380
so that you're not the last guy to

1344
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:09,619
figure it out. Yeah. Exactly. And and I

1345
00:44:09,619 --> 00:44:10,980
would argue that the people that go in

1346
00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:12,260
and do that, like, the guy just goes,

1347
00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:13,340
like, shoot, I'm gonna go grab a TV,

1348
00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:14,739
you know, whatever. I'm gonna take advantage or

1349
00:44:14,739 --> 00:44:16,099
I'm gonna go bust a window because I

1350
00:44:16,099 --> 00:44:17,220
feel like it because I don't even care

1351
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:18,514
what this whole thing is about. They're not

1352
00:44:18,514 --> 00:44:19,994
the ones that get held accountable. They're not

1353
00:44:19,994 --> 00:44:21,594
the ones that have failed. They go from

1354
00:44:21,594 --> 00:44:23,355
political leaders or the the person standing there

1355
00:44:23,355 --> 00:44:24,554
going, I want you to be accountable. And

1356
00:44:24,554 --> 00:44:26,074
it's like, you're a terrorist. You know? It's

1357
00:44:26,234 --> 00:44:26,894
it is

1358
00:44:27,195 --> 00:44:29,355
obscene how this continues to happen. Right? But

1359
00:44:29,355 --> 00:44:30,795
back to that point though about the clip,

1360
00:44:30,795 --> 00:44:32,474
you know, about the about the incident. You

1361
00:44:32,474 --> 00:44:34,340
know? Kristi Noem came out and called that

1362
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:35,559
person a domestic terrorist

1363
00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:37,140
to make your point. You know? And it's

1364
00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:38,280
like, okay.

1365
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:41,140
You could make an like, the only argument

1366
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:42,780
in that like, let's just take this actual

1367
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:44,019
the point in front of us. You've got

1368
00:44:44,019 --> 00:44:45,704
a woman in a car who's observing them.

1369
00:44:45,864 --> 00:44:47,945
Where's the argument for terrorism? Even if you

1370
00:44:47,945 --> 00:44:49,945
argue she directly went and just rammed the

1371
00:44:49,945 --> 00:44:51,085
guy, which didn't happen,

1372
00:44:51,385 --> 00:44:52,825
how would that be terrorism? That would be

1373
00:44:52,825 --> 00:44:55,065
a crime, certainly. But with the the the

1374
00:44:55,065 --> 00:44:57,325
fact that she rushes to call it terrorism

1375
00:44:57,545 --> 00:44:59,610
is the entire agenda. Right? This is about

1376
00:44:59,769 --> 00:45:02,170
framing anything against the government or any crime

1377
00:45:02,170 --> 00:45:03,849
of any kind or whatever they want, wherever

1378
00:45:03,849 --> 00:45:05,530
they want is terrorism because that opens the

1379
00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:08,010
door to, you know, nothing matters, national security,

1380
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:09,530
whatever they wanna do. You know? And so

1381
00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:11,369
I found it really interesting, but I argue

1382
00:45:11,369 --> 00:45:13,155
it's because they're just trying to make a,

1383
00:45:13,315 --> 00:45:14,614
you know, flimsy connection

1384
00:45:14,914 --> 00:45:16,914
to, I guess, what? She's an observer. Therefore,

1385
00:45:16,914 --> 00:45:18,434
she must be lefty even though I know

1386
00:45:18,434 --> 00:45:19,795
people who are not left who are doing

1387
00:45:19,795 --> 00:45:21,954
that. It's the same thing as always. But

1388
00:45:21,954 --> 00:45:23,635
then you have examples saying that that means

1389
00:45:23,635 --> 00:45:25,795
lefty, that means Antifa, therefore, terrorism. And it's

1390
00:45:25,795 --> 00:45:27,539
like, that none of these things are gonna

1391
00:45:27,539 --> 00:45:28,579
hold up in court, but that's not what

1392
00:45:28,579 --> 00:45:30,260
it's really about. You know? So I on

1393
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:31,820
your that point, I think, is important. But

1394
00:45:31,820 --> 00:45:33,219
I what what are your thoughts on that?

1395
00:45:33,219 --> 00:45:34,420
Unless we don't you don't wanna get into

1396
00:45:34,420 --> 00:45:36,019
it, but what do you think about the

1397
00:45:36,019 --> 00:45:37,219
way that went down? Do you feel that

1398
00:45:37,219 --> 00:45:38,739
they were justified in killing that woman? You

1399
00:45:38,739 --> 00:45:39,780
know? I'd say I think it's a a

1400
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:41,619
really important pivotal moment for this country right

1401
00:45:41,619 --> 00:45:43,675
now. I have problems when the

1402
00:45:44,295 --> 00:45:46,934
Department of Homeland Security chief is calling people

1403
00:45:46,934 --> 00:45:49,015
domestic terrorists, knowing that that means that you

1404
00:45:49,015 --> 00:45:50,855
can wind up in Guantanamo Bay in five

1405
00:45:50,855 --> 00:45:52,775
hours Yeah. You know, with a bag over

1406
00:45:52,775 --> 00:45:53,434
your head.

1407
00:45:53,894 --> 00:45:56,054
And so I I don't like any of

1408
00:45:56,054 --> 00:45:58,380
this. It's all gross and disgusting.

1409
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,780
I don't know. See, the but

1410
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:02,519
but if you think about also if you

1411
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,280
kinda just take a a step back on

1412
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,340
the sort of the psychology

1413
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,380
of this,

1414
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:08,860
think about the optics.

1415
00:46:09,444 --> 00:46:11,944
That you if you're gonna do something diabolical,

1416
00:46:12,085 --> 00:46:14,264
like have a Department of Homeland Security,

1417
00:46:14,964 --> 00:46:16,964
why not have Barbie run it? You know,

1418
00:46:16,964 --> 00:46:19,284
with the hair extensions and the makeup and

1419
00:46:19,284 --> 00:46:21,464
and and all of this, you know, because

1420
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,200
who are you really selling it to? You're

1421
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,800
selling it to Trump's base. Right? So she's

1422
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,400
gotta look like she's straight out of Fox

1423
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,860
News. Right. You know?

1424
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,320
And and and and so there's a little

1425
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,019
I think there's a little bit more

1426
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,280
thought that goes into this from in terms

1427
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,660
of who the

1428
00:46:37,085 --> 00:46:39,424
who the target demographic is for this information.

1429
00:46:40,125 --> 00:46:42,284
This is this is his base. Right? So

1430
00:46:42,284 --> 00:46:44,464
you have Kristi Noem deliver it. Right? Because

1431
00:46:45,085 --> 00:46:47,404
you already kinda like her. Right? If you're

1432
00:46:47,404 --> 00:46:50,125
MAGA guys, she's kinda hot and she's yeah.

1433
00:46:50,125 --> 00:46:52,309
I mean, yeah. She's talking about the most

1434
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:54,769
authoritarian, awful stuff ever, but, hey. Look at

1435
00:46:54,769 --> 00:46:56,050
her. You know what I mean? And I

1436
00:46:56,050 --> 00:46:57,670
see that, and I go, that's not accidental.

1437
00:46:57,730 --> 00:46:59,510
The Trump comes out of television.

1438
00:46:59,809 --> 00:47:01,890
He knows what he's doing. Yeah. You know?

1439
00:47:01,890 --> 00:47:03,329
And I think, god, what a gross

1440
00:47:05,114 --> 00:47:07,234
how gross is that that you you you

1441
00:47:07,234 --> 00:47:08,974
you bring in a Barbie

1442
00:47:09,434 --> 00:47:11,215
doll to sell the authoritarian

1443
00:47:11,675 --> 00:47:12,175
overreach?

1444
00:47:12,474 --> 00:47:14,635
But It's it's very do it. I guess

1445
00:47:14,635 --> 00:47:16,394
maybe more brave new world. But, yeah, it

1446
00:47:16,394 --> 00:47:16,894
definitely

1447
00:47:17,195 --> 00:47:19,530
is manipulative for sure. But, yeah, it's you

1448
00:47:19,530 --> 00:47:20,809
know, what's what's crazy to me and let

1449
00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:22,090
let me ask you this since I seem

1450
00:47:22,090 --> 00:47:23,610
to I mean, I think this is still

1451
00:47:23,610 --> 00:47:25,849
wildly relevant every single day that it continues

1452
00:47:25,849 --> 00:47:27,449
to grow. My point was I seem to

1453
00:47:27,449 --> 00:47:29,050
ask this constantly when we're on the show

1454
00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:30,329
or every time, I mean, when we do

1455
00:47:30,329 --> 00:47:32,204
the interviews. But it seems to be evolving.

1456
00:47:32,204 --> 00:47:33,565
Right? So do you think or where do

1457
00:47:33,565 --> 00:47:35,505
you think the let's just say the Republican

1458
00:47:35,724 --> 00:47:37,484
or let's just say the conservative as a

1459
00:47:37,484 --> 00:47:39,964
whole conservative side. Where do you think they're

1460
00:47:39,964 --> 00:47:41,644
at right now with with support of the

1461
00:47:41,644 --> 00:47:43,324
Trump side, with the team, with the two

1462
00:47:43,324 --> 00:47:45,159
party illusion? I think it's I mean, we

1463
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,599
because we keep talking about this. Right? And

1464
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:48,440
and, originally, it was sort of like, well,

1465
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,800
I feel like they're not happy. But it's

1466
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,000
hard to tell. Right? Or even the two

1467
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,079
party illusion. I think it's never been more

1468
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:55,079
clear. I think it's so shockingly obvious that

1469
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:57,644
conservatives right now are, I'm not saying fleeing

1470
00:47:57,704 --> 00:47:59,464
from the team or the party, but, like,

1471
00:47:59,464 --> 00:48:01,065
we're being screwed over by Trump. Or this

1472
00:48:01,065 --> 00:48:02,264
team's not you know? What do you think

1473
00:48:02,264 --> 00:48:03,464
about that? Where where do you think that

1474
00:48:03,464 --> 00:48:04,684
percentage is right now?

1475
00:48:05,704 --> 00:48:07,784
Well, I I don't know how you can

1476
00:48:07,784 --> 00:48:10,319
watch what Trump has been doing for the

1477
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:12,420
last year and not feel betrayed

1478
00:48:13,279 --> 00:48:14,759
for if you were a Republican. I think

1479
00:48:14,759 --> 00:48:16,819
it depending on what your level of expectations

1480
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,639
were. Right? I I have my level of

1481
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,059
expectations very low, so I'm not disappointed.

1482
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,719
He he I knew he was going to

1483
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,764
be a a a tool of the Zionist,

1484
00:48:26,304 --> 00:48:28,224
faction and and big tech, and, of course,

1485
00:48:28,224 --> 00:48:29,904
he has been. And and that's just a

1486
00:48:29,904 --> 00:48:31,664
matter of degree as to how that has

1487
00:48:31,664 --> 00:48:32,885
all played out. But

1488
00:48:33,424 --> 00:48:35,025
I expected that, and that's what I got.

1489
00:48:35,025 --> 00:48:37,284
But I think for those people who really

1490
00:48:37,505 --> 00:48:38,005
honestly

1491
00:48:38,304 --> 00:48:38,804
thought

1492
00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:42,180
that Bongino was gonna get in there and

1493
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:42,680
that

1494
00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:44,980
the arrests were gonna be and they were

1495
00:48:44,980 --> 00:48:47,300
just gonna be lining up buses and it

1496
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:48,980
was gonna be purp box and all that,

1497
00:48:48,980 --> 00:48:50,599
and they really bought it.

1498
00:48:51,619 --> 00:48:54,119
I think for those people, they're deeply disappointed.

1499
00:48:55,065 --> 00:48:57,164
I think it's cool. I I could have

1500
00:48:57,224 --> 00:48:59,144
I could have saved them. Well, I probably

1501
00:48:59,144 --> 00:49:00,664
couldn't have. They wouldn't have they wouldn't have

1502
00:49:00,664 --> 00:49:02,184
listened. But I'm sure they heard us. They

1503
00:49:02,184 --> 00:49:04,025
didn't wanna Theoretically, you could have saved them

1504
00:49:04,025 --> 00:49:05,545
by telling them this is gonna happen. But,

1505
00:49:05,545 --> 00:49:07,464
I mean, you you maybe you just you

1506
00:49:07,464 --> 00:49:07,964
know,

1507
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:10,119
we all go through that. You know, we

1508
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,119
all kinda say, oh, this time will be

1509
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:13,880
different. You know, it happens. And then after

1510
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,119
it's some people they they figured out pretty

1511
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:18,360
early on. They go, I'm not participating in

1512
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,880
this. I'm never gonna get my hopes up

1513
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,039
or pin my dreams on some politician to

1514
00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:23,655
come in here and wave a magic wand

1515
00:49:23,655 --> 00:49:25,175
and fix it all. It's just not gonna

1516
00:49:25,175 --> 00:49:25,675
happen.

1517
00:49:26,055 --> 00:49:28,535
But, you know, everybody learns at their own

1518
00:49:28,535 --> 00:49:30,875
pace. So I'm assuming that there's a segment

1519
00:49:30,934 --> 00:49:32,074
right now that's going

1520
00:49:33,015 --> 00:49:33,675
I mean,

1521
00:49:33,974 --> 00:49:35,909
I didn't sign up for any of this.

1522
00:49:35,989 --> 00:49:37,750
Right. The the irony is that, in fact,

1523
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:39,510
they did. They just didn't realize that they

1524
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:40,329
did. But

1525
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:43,429
but their their and I've seen a lot

1526
00:49:43,429 --> 00:49:45,989
of this actually online with people going, I

1527
00:49:45,989 --> 00:49:47,750
didn't ask for this. I voted for him,

1528
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:49,349
but I didn't vote for this. Big people

1529
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:52,125
too. Yeah. Big people. And and and once

1530
00:49:52,125 --> 00:49:53,885
you get past the you you actually did

1531
00:49:53,885 --> 00:49:56,045
kind of vote for it, then it's then

1532
00:49:56,045 --> 00:49:56,864
it's well

1533
00:49:57,405 --> 00:49:59,644
well, now what are you gonna do? Mhmm.

1534
00:49:59,644 --> 00:50:01,005
Are you now you have a you have

1535
00:50:01,005 --> 00:50:02,864
a decision to make. Are you gonna rationalize

1536
00:50:03,005 --> 00:50:04,760
his behavior and say, well, you know, it

1537
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,519
would have been much worse if Kamala was

1538
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:08,039
there because you could do that. You could

1539
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,119
try that, and and you could probably convince

1540
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:12,039
yourself for a little while. Or you're gonna

1541
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:12,699
get honest

1542
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:14,619
and say that this guy is

1543
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:16,219
this guy is a

1544
00:50:16,994 --> 00:50:19,554
tool of Israel. It is quite obvious all

1545
00:50:19,554 --> 00:50:20,994
the things he said that he was gonna

1546
00:50:20,994 --> 00:50:23,335
do, the no wars and no foreign entanglements

1547
00:50:23,474 --> 00:50:25,954
and make America great. He's Lower cost. Not

1548
00:50:25,954 --> 00:50:27,474
only has he not done it, not only

1549
00:50:27,474 --> 00:50:28,914
has he not gotten around to it, he's

1550
00:50:28,914 --> 00:50:31,329
done the exact opposite of it. It's not

1551
00:50:31,489 --> 00:50:32,849
it it'd be one thing if it was

1552
00:50:32,849 --> 00:50:34,609
just like, oh, he got caught up in

1553
00:50:34,609 --> 00:50:36,369
the muck and and and he can't get

1554
00:50:36,369 --> 00:50:38,210
any traction to get anything done. No. No.

1555
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:39,750
No. He's getting plenty done.

1556
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:41,969
It's the exact opposite stuff that you ever

1557
00:50:41,969 --> 00:50:44,630
wanted. And everything that is not a priority

1558
00:50:44,769 --> 00:50:45,349
to us

1559
00:50:45,945 --> 00:50:46,684
is magically

1560
00:50:47,465 --> 00:50:49,704
a huge priority to him. So it's on

1561
00:50:49,704 --> 00:50:51,465
top of that, it's very frustrating. You just

1562
00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:53,465
go, you could wave your magic wand and

1563
00:50:53,465 --> 00:50:54,985
take care of all this stuff that the

1564
00:50:54,985 --> 00:50:57,385
president actually can do, and yet you're not

1565
00:50:57,385 --> 00:50:59,769
doing it. And here you are focusing on

1566
00:50:59,769 --> 00:51:02,349
building a new ballroom or or or strengthening

1567
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:04,730
our ties or bringing in people that can

1568
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:06,730
get to the bottom of the antisemitism on

1569
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:09,289
college campuses. It's like, it's like we're just

1570
00:51:09,289 --> 00:51:11,690
focusing on all of the nonsense at the

1571
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:13,994
expense of some really important things. And so

1572
00:51:14,075 --> 00:51:15,914
if it's your first rodeo, if it's your

1573
00:51:15,914 --> 00:51:17,835
first time you really kinda bought into it

1574
00:51:18,155 --> 00:51:20,474
Mhmm. It's gotta be horrifying to watch this

1575
00:51:20,474 --> 00:51:22,235
play out. And I but I'm kinda glad

1576
00:51:22,235 --> 00:51:23,595
about that. That's kinda the idea of this

1577
00:51:23,595 --> 00:51:25,835
whole dying, whatever, empire system. You know, it's

1578
00:51:25,835 --> 00:51:29,619
like that's it's continually more clumsy. Their actions

1579
00:51:29,619 --> 00:51:31,699
continue to fall apart sooner. You know? And,

1580
00:51:31,699 --> 00:51:33,539
I mean, every time like, even just with

1581
00:51:33,539 --> 00:51:34,780
this with the way that I mean, any

1582
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:36,500
you pick the narrative on the table right

1583
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:38,340
now. It's wild how they'll come out with

1584
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:40,180
something, Venezuela, we can get into in the

1585
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:42,964
last ten minutes here, about it's just wholesale

1586
00:51:43,105 --> 00:51:45,664
deception and lies about everything going on. And

1587
00:51:45,664 --> 00:51:47,664
I would argue that you could lie better

1588
00:51:47,664 --> 00:51:49,585
than that. Like, you could you could even

1589
00:51:49,585 --> 00:51:51,904
manufacture, but yet they I mean, I tend

1590
00:51:51,904 --> 00:51:53,764
to think it's largely just incompetence

1591
00:51:54,065 --> 00:51:56,304
or something else driving the bus. You know?

1592
00:51:56,304 --> 00:51:58,440
But I just the I I think what

1593
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,300
you just described is obvious,

1594
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:02,440
and I think that is self evident to

1595
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,039
pretty much anyone that looks. And so you

1596
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:05,420
end up in a position where

1597
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,039
you have to ask yourself, do we feel

1598
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:10,440
there's more honest people in the conversation versus

1599
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,414
people that just

1600
00:52:11,735 --> 00:52:13,735
lie or or ignore for their own interest?

1601
00:52:13,735 --> 00:52:15,094
And I'd like to believe that there's more

1602
00:52:15,094 --> 00:52:17,175
honest people, and I think that's proven by

1603
00:52:17,175 --> 00:52:19,574
the fact that they always project what they

1604
00:52:19,574 --> 00:52:22,554
want that they honesty, you know, liberty, democracy.

1605
00:52:22,695 --> 00:52:24,135
Why would they keep doing that if most

1606
00:52:24,135 --> 00:52:25,494
of us didn't want that? You know? So

1607
00:52:25,494 --> 00:52:27,130
I think it's clear that it's so my

1608
00:52:27,130 --> 00:52:28,489
point saying that is that if that's the

1609
00:52:28,489 --> 00:52:30,170
case, and I think that is, that means

1610
00:52:30,170 --> 00:52:32,010
people are going like you're saying. Because they

1611
00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:33,369
are honest, and they wanted this to be

1612
00:52:33,369 --> 00:52:34,969
the case. But now they're going, holy crap.

1613
00:52:34,969 --> 00:52:36,409
This is crazy. Like, this is not what

1614
00:52:36,409 --> 00:52:38,570
I thought. What an important moment for this

1615
00:52:38,570 --> 00:52:40,454
country. You know? People tend to think this

1616
00:52:40,454 --> 00:52:41,974
is sort of, you know, maybe on the

1617
00:52:41,974 --> 00:52:43,255
one side or the other, that it's a

1618
00:52:43,255 --> 00:52:44,775
bad thing or that it's just you know?

1619
00:52:44,775 --> 00:52:46,214
I think this is the sign of actual

1620
00:52:46,214 --> 00:52:48,375
change happening, and I think that's why we're

1621
00:52:48,375 --> 00:52:51,174
watching this chaotic thing happen because power structures

1622
00:52:51,174 --> 00:52:52,775
are clearly not happy with the way it

1623
00:52:52,775 --> 00:52:54,710
were. We're like, I don't believe you anymore.

1624
00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:56,449
That's that's scary for them. You know, eat

1625
00:52:56,449 --> 00:52:57,730
the rich and all the stuff they've talked

1626
00:52:57,730 --> 00:52:59,409
about. They think about these things. They think

1627
00:52:59,409 --> 00:53:01,730
about the, you know, growing concern that we

1628
00:53:01,730 --> 00:53:03,409
may just decide to not listen to them

1629
00:53:03,409 --> 00:53:05,489
anymore and what that means to their security.

1630
00:53:05,489 --> 00:53:06,769
You know? And I'm not in any way

1631
00:53:06,769 --> 00:53:08,769
suggesting violence or threatening anything. It's more just

1632
00:53:08,769 --> 00:53:11,255
about their concern for what happens when things

1633
00:53:11,255 --> 00:53:13,014
change dramatically like that and what they've been

1634
00:53:13,014 --> 00:53:14,534
doing our entire lives. But I just think

1635
00:53:14,534 --> 00:53:16,295
that's really important to think about. And I'm

1636
00:53:16,295 --> 00:53:17,494
sure we'll bring it up next time. And,

1637
00:53:17,494 --> 00:53:18,934
you know, it's where where do you think

1638
00:53:18,934 --> 00:53:20,614
that look. Let's finish with Venezuela and where

1639
00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:21,894
that goes because I think that's an important

1640
00:53:21,894 --> 00:53:23,414
topic. But just on that last segment there,

1641
00:53:23,414 --> 00:53:25,319
you know, where do you think this logically

1642
00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:27,480
goes? If this continues to go the way

1643
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,079
that we think that it is and people

1644
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:30,920
continue to go, you know, I guess, save

1645
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,440
from them just, like, releasing all the Epstein

1646
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,199
files and doing suddenly everything they promised, which

1647
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:35,799
I highly doubt, where do you think this

1648
00:53:35,799 --> 00:53:37,724
goes with people continuing to call it out,

1649
00:53:37,724 --> 00:53:39,405
you know, with the next election? You know,

1650
00:53:39,405 --> 00:53:40,525
just where do you think where do you

1651
00:53:40,525 --> 00:53:42,845
think it goes? Well, it it kinda the

1652
00:53:42,845 --> 00:53:43,825
government narratives

1653
00:53:44,204 --> 00:53:45,345
remind me of these

1654
00:53:45,724 --> 00:53:48,704
of a well done Pixar movie. There's two

1655
00:53:48,845 --> 00:53:50,925
story lines going. There's one for the parents,

1656
00:53:50,925 --> 00:53:52,765
and there's one for the kids. There's jokes

1657
00:53:52,765 --> 00:53:54,480
that the parents get the punch lines and

1658
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,840
the kids are laughing too, but it's for

1659
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,199
something different. And for the vast majority of

1660
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:01,539
people, the kids, the people who are uninitiated

1661
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,920
don't understand how to listen to or watch

1662
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,179
the media and get what's really going on,

1663
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,559
they're being served one version of reality that

1664
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:11,335
is very entertaining and it's different. For the

1665
00:54:11,335 --> 00:54:12,875
adults, they're who are watching

1666
00:54:13,335 --> 00:54:15,094
it, they're kind of snickering at something else.

1667
00:54:15,094 --> 00:54:18,214
They're they're they're understanding that that there's there's

1668
00:54:18,214 --> 00:54:20,474
more going on. The Venezuela thing is

1669
00:54:20,934 --> 00:54:22,614
probably no different. You know, they'll they'll be

1670
00:54:22,614 --> 00:54:25,000
an established narrative that will be sold to

1671
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,299
the people. Venezuela

1672
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:27,659
was running drugs.

1673
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,280
They're an evil Imadero is an evil,

1674
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,719
socialist dictator who destroyed his people. You know?

1675
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,859
And you can find

1676
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:35,980
examples

1677
00:54:36,914 --> 00:54:38,755
that back all that stuff. You know, they'll

1678
00:54:38,755 --> 00:54:40,515
they'll give you a bunch of reasons and

1679
00:54:40,515 --> 00:54:41,974
and, of course, you can find

1680
00:54:42,355 --> 00:54:43,954
examples of them doing this. Does it mean

1681
00:54:43,954 --> 00:54:46,295
that they're Yeah. The biggest drug,

1682
00:54:46,835 --> 00:54:48,835
transporting hub in the world? No. Does it

1683
00:54:48,835 --> 00:54:50,755
mean that Maduro is the worst dictator in

1684
00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:52,380
the history? No. I mean, but you can

1685
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:55,260
find examples to say, sue, we're we're above

1686
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:57,039
reproach and this guy's gotta go.

1687
00:54:57,579 --> 00:54:59,659
And so that will be sold to the

1688
00:54:59,659 --> 00:55:01,739
general public for, you know, for the obvious

1689
00:55:01,739 --> 00:55:03,679
reasons. He he was bad to his people.

1690
00:55:03,844 --> 00:55:05,764
And then and then maybe some people will

1691
00:55:05,764 --> 00:55:06,964
break out of that a little bit and

1692
00:55:06,964 --> 00:55:08,644
say, but, you know, he also has oil,

1693
00:55:08,644 --> 00:55:10,085
and we can steal the oil, and we

1694
00:55:10,085 --> 00:55:11,444
get the oil. And then Trump comes out

1695
00:55:11,444 --> 00:55:13,045
and says, we've taken the oil, we're taking

1696
00:55:13,045 --> 00:55:15,444
these cargo ships, and you go, good lord.

1697
00:55:15,444 --> 00:55:17,045
We're, like, turned into pirates here, and there's

1698
00:55:17,045 --> 00:55:18,699
that whole narrative going on. And you go,

1699
00:55:18,699 --> 00:55:20,380
well, that must be what it's about. Must

1700
00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:21,920
be about oil. Right? And so

1701
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:25,119
they'll allow you to, I suppose, the the

1702
00:55:25,420 --> 00:55:26,000
the average

1703
00:55:26,619 --> 00:55:28,719
news viewer, they'll allow you to,

1704
00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:30,000
you know,

1705
00:55:30,824 --> 00:55:31,945
hear that it's about,

1706
00:55:33,144 --> 00:55:34,204
stopping socialism,

1707
00:55:34,585 --> 00:55:37,545
but, also allow you to probably assume that

1708
00:55:37,545 --> 00:55:39,324
it's also about oil. Mhmm.

1709
00:55:39,864 --> 00:55:41,304
But Like you said earlier, kind of setting

1710
00:55:41,304 --> 00:55:42,984
that, like, allowance or, like, without knowing it,

1711
00:55:42,984 --> 00:55:45,140
sort of normalizing that illegal activity. You're gonna

1712
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:46,900
yeah. It's about oil. But, you know, hey.

1713
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,300
Listen. We steal oil from now. It's Trump,

1714
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:50,900
and, you know, it's it's we're not we're

1715
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:53,140
not doing anything bad. It's just oil. Right?

1716
00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:55,079
But but what they won't tell you

1717
00:55:55,460 --> 00:55:57,539
is that, you know, the the follow-up story

1718
00:55:57,539 --> 00:55:59,320
to the oil component is that

1719
00:56:00,065 --> 00:56:01,905
they're now not gonna be selling oil to

1720
00:56:01,905 --> 00:56:04,545
China Mhmm. And they will be selling oil

1721
00:56:04,545 --> 00:56:05,125
to Israel.

1722
00:56:05,744 --> 00:56:08,144
But we won't get into that level of

1723
00:56:08,144 --> 00:56:10,724
detail. Right? It'll just kinda stop at, like,

1724
00:56:11,425 --> 00:56:14,005
we're we're going to maybe go install

1725
00:56:14,545 --> 00:56:15,285
Paul Singer's

1726
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,639
Sitgo is come back. I mean, maybe maybe

1727
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,460
we're we're maybe gonna, you know, allow our

1728
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,179
Standard Oil interest to

1729
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,199
take over Venezuelan oil and and run that.

1730
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:28,039
I'll tell you where my mind actually goes

1731
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:29,019
with all of this.

1732
00:56:29,324 --> 00:56:32,545
That is that is probably more alarming than

1733
00:56:32,844 --> 00:56:34,125
than any of it. And I do think

1734
00:56:34,125 --> 00:56:34,784
it's about

1735
00:56:35,164 --> 00:56:37,085
on some not not the entire story, but

1736
00:56:37,085 --> 00:56:39,664
on some level, sure, oil. Yeah. Oh, definitely.

1737
00:56:39,724 --> 00:56:40,864
I think it's about

1738
00:56:41,324 --> 00:56:42,224
shoring up

1739
00:56:42,570 --> 00:56:44,590
supply chains in anticipation

1740
00:56:45,849 --> 00:56:48,329
of something bigger. Yeah. Because if I were

1741
00:56:48,329 --> 00:56:48,829
to

1742
00:56:49,610 --> 00:56:52,090
if I were to be somebody planning, let's

1743
00:56:52,090 --> 00:56:53,390
say, World War three

1744
00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:55,769
and let's say in The Middle East, focal

1745
00:56:55,769 --> 00:56:57,210
point in The Middle East, but maybe not

1746
00:56:57,210 --> 00:56:59,364
limited to there, And I was America,

1747
00:57:00,464 --> 00:57:02,545
who is an who's a net energy exporter

1748
00:57:02,545 --> 00:57:03,905
to begin with, and I we could we

1749
00:57:03,905 --> 00:57:04,724
could be energy

1750
00:57:05,105 --> 00:57:05,605
independent,

1751
00:57:06,065 --> 00:57:07,905
but we choose not to be. Right. But

1752
00:57:07,905 --> 00:57:09,585
if I was America, I would say I

1753
00:57:09,585 --> 00:57:12,804
would wanna have a couple different options for

1754
00:57:13,344 --> 00:57:13,844
oil

1755
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:17,039
that that weren't dependent on Suez Canal,

1756
00:57:18,059 --> 00:57:19,199
Strait Of Hormuz

1757
00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:22,219
or going around, you know, the the bottom

1758
00:57:22,219 --> 00:57:24,559
of Africa. And that would be Nigeria,

1759
00:57:25,019 --> 00:57:27,485
which is just a straight shot across

1760
00:57:27,785 --> 00:57:29,485
The Atlantic into Houston,

1761
00:57:29,785 --> 00:57:32,025
and Venezuela, which is just a straight shot

1762
00:57:32,025 --> 00:57:34,664
north into Houston as well. And if I

1763
00:57:34,664 --> 00:57:36,744
had control of both of those, then I

1764
00:57:36,744 --> 00:57:39,465
would feel pretty good about not needing Middle

1765
00:57:39,465 --> 00:57:41,644
East oil for a decade or so.

1766
00:57:42,010 --> 00:57:43,450
And I'm I'm not saying that this is

1767
00:57:43,450 --> 00:57:45,550
happening. I'm just trying to think, like, strategically

1768
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:47,369
or maybe a little bit outside of the

1769
00:57:47,369 --> 00:57:49,930
box. Like, what could this actually mean? It

1770
00:57:49,930 --> 00:57:52,489
could mean it could be something as as

1771
00:57:52,489 --> 00:57:55,369
as sort of strategic as just getting these

1772
00:57:55,369 --> 00:57:56,269
supply chains

1773
00:57:57,144 --> 00:57:59,385
hammered out. Obviously, you get China thrown out

1774
00:57:59,385 --> 00:58:00,045
and you

1775
00:58:00,425 --> 00:58:03,224
normalize relations with Israel. That's what his masters

1776
00:58:03,224 --> 00:58:05,244
want. But what does America want? Well, America

1777
00:58:05,305 --> 00:58:08,265
could could shore up these supply lines at

1778
00:58:08,265 --> 00:58:09,644
least in terms of oil.

1779
00:58:11,329 --> 00:58:13,030
Still be a massive catastrophe

1780
00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:15,429
based on the supply

1781
00:58:15,730 --> 00:58:17,570
chain needs that we have in China. I'm

1782
00:58:17,570 --> 00:58:19,090
not trying to say that this solves any

1783
00:58:19,090 --> 00:58:21,329
of all of America's problems, but I'm trying

1784
00:58:21,329 --> 00:58:23,170
to think, like, how they would look at

1785
00:58:23,170 --> 00:58:24,550
this and and why

1786
00:58:24,929 --> 00:58:25,670
why now

1787
00:58:26,424 --> 00:58:28,744
why now and not, you know, five years

1788
00:58:28,744 --> 00:58:30,984
ago with Venezuela? Why now? What is it

1789
00:58:30,984 --> 00:58:33,224
going on that that is is requiring this?

1790
00:58:33,224 --> 00:58:34,824
And so when I think about it, I

1791
00:58:34,824 --> 00:58:36,844
I my mind goes to

1792
00:58:37,784 --> 00:58:39,804
to something having to do with a future

1793
00:58:39,864 --> 00:58:41,840
event that would

1794
00:58:42,220 --> 00:58:42,720
make

1795
00:58:43,099 --> 00:58:45,500
it more difficult for them to get the

1796
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:47,579
oil that they need in a timely manner.

1797
00:58:47,579 --> 00:58:49,900
Yeah. Well, those are very valid points. All

1798
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:51,579
of that's exactly, you know, whether it's, you

1799
00:58:51,579 --> 00:58:53,660
know, including other actions they've taken with Yemen

1800
00:58:53,660 --> 00:58:55,275
and the Bab El Mandeb Strait or,

1801
00:58:55,737 --> 00:58:57,817
Oman or or Somalia. You know, it's these

1802
00:58:57,817 --> 00:58:59,666
are all exactly that conversation. It's all different

1803
00:58:59,666 --> 00:59:01,747
parts of the same at least at least

1804
00:59:01,747 --> 00:59:03,596
one part of those agendas were about that,

1805
00:59:03,596 --> 00:59:05,445
and I think that's very clear. But what's

1806
00:59:05,445 --> 00:59:07,295
interesting is with Israel involved in all of

1807
00:59:07,295 --> 00:59:09,099
this, you know, it's I mean, there there's

1808
00:59:09,099 --> 00:59:10,639
very clear overlaps to

1809
00:59:11,019 --> 00:59:13,440
the larger agenda in regard to Venezuela

1810
00:59:13,739 --> 00:59:15,140
and these different you know, you you painted

1811
00:59:15,140 --> 00:59:16,880
a good picture there for the desire

1812
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,900
to prepare for what they've always been planning.

1813
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:21,039
Right? And you can see

1814
00:59:21,405 --> 00:59:23,324
going back Biden, Obama. You know, they've been

1815
00:59:23,324 --> 00:59:24,545
trying to overthrow Venezuela

1816
00:59:24,844 --> 00:59:26,925
and have at least briefly succeeded with Chavez

1817
00:59:26,925 --> 00:59:28,605
once, but the people protested enough where they

1818
00:59:28,605 --> 00:59:29,965
had to bring him back. Most people don't

1819
00:59:29,965 --> 00:59:31,744
even know that, but that's very well documented.

1820
00:59:31,804 --> 00:59:33,724
They've been trying to regime change it for,

1821
00:59:33,724 --> 00:59:34,224
possibly,

1822
00:59:34,605 --> 00:59:36,445
that very reason left and right for a

1823
00:59:36,445 --> 00:59:38,339
very long time. I think the difference is

1824
00:59:38,339 --> 00:59:39,799
that at this point in time,

1825
00:59:40,179 --> 00:59:42,179
whether it's just Israel's interest or whatever else,

1826
00:59:42,179 --> 00:59:44,420
Trump is more amenable to the influence of

1827
00:59:44,420 --> 00:59:46,500
people around him and decided to make this

1828
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:49,155
belligerent action with Maduro. Right? Because, you mean,

1829
00:59:49,315 --> 00:59:50,835
mean, it could have attempted another regime change.

1830
00:59:50,835 --> 00:59:52,355
They did his last administration. He was very

1831
00:59:52,355 --> 00:59:54,034
embarrassed by that. The military screwed him over.

1832
00:59:54,034 --> 00:59:55,795
Remember that? They pretended they were gonna regime,

1833
00:59:55,795 --> 00:59:57,074
and they they stood up and stood with

1834
00:59:57,074 --> 00:59:58,434
Maduro, and they said you know, they tricked

1835
00:59:58,434 --> 01:00:00,195
him, basically. And that was very embarrassing for

1836
01:00:00,195 --> 01:00:02,195
him. That's arguably why he doesn't work with

1837
01:00:02,195 --> 01:00:04,500
Machado because that's her kind of support base,

1838
01:00:04,579 --> 01:00:06,019
and he feels, like, screwed over by that

1839
01:00:06,019 --> 01:00:07,860
or, like, the double it's very weird the

1840
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:10,340
way he reacts kind of emotionally. But I

1841
01:00:10,340 --> 01:00:12,099
think it's right now because it's obvious that

1842
01:00:12,099 --> 01:00:14,019
this has always been the agenda for the

1843
01:00:14,099 --> 01:00:15,539
one of the reasons you're making right there,

1844
01:00:15,539 --> 01:00:17,344
and and that now it's just I think

1845
01:00:17,344 --> 01:00:18,625
he's just willing to do it or maybe

1846
01:00:18,625 --> 01:00:20,304
not even in control. But to your point

1847
01:00:20,464 --> 01:00:22,304
Maybe. I think Robert just wrote a recent

1848
01:00:22,304 --> 01:00:24,304
article about this. It's important to think about

1849
01:00:24,304 --> 01:00:25,904
just the first, just the seizing of the

1850
01:00:25,904 --> 01:00:28,704
actual oil, not the industry, which will continue

1851
01:00:28,704 --> 01:00:30,910
to profit them, but the oil itself. He

1852
01:00:30,910 --> 01:00:32,510
makes an excellent argument that I didn't think

1853
01:00:32,510 --> 01:00:34,590
about. Like so we talked about the the

1854
01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:36,110
the supply chain, the flow of oil, and

1855
01:00:36,110 --> 01:00:38,429
others, and that the need to take these

1856
01:00:38,429 --> 01:00:39,650
locations will help

1857
01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:42,664
con if Iran were to shut down the

1858
01:00:42,664 --> 01:00:44,184
Strait Of Hormuz, which is what they threaten,

1859
01:00:44,184 --> 01:00:45,625
that they would be able to circumvent that,

1860
01:00:45,625 --> 01:00:47,065
and that would allow them to continue their

1861
01:00:47,065 --> 01:00:48,505
wars. But he makes a point that if

1862
01:00:48,505 --> 01:00:49,784
they were to seize this oil, which they're

1863
01:00:49,784 --> 01:00:52,264
already doing, that could potentially get them through

1864
01:00:52,264 --> 01:00:54,105
without even needing more flow of oil. And

1865
01:00:54,105 --> 01:00:55,704
that's just an interesting thought, you know, that

1866
01:00:55,704 --> 01:00:57,690
they're, like you said, trying to create the

1867
01:00:57,690 --> 01:01:01,050
circumstances to justify or rather support their next

1868
01:01:01,050 --> 01:01:02,969
action, which I think is clear. I mean,

1869
01:01:02,969 --> 01:01:04,010
I don't even we do we need to

1870
01:01:04,010 --> 01:01:05,769
debate that they wanna go after Iran? Aren't

1871
01:01:05,769 --> 01:01:07,929
they screaming that every thirty seconds? So, clearly,

1872
01:01:07,929 --> 01:01:09,289
this is what that goes to. You know?

1873
01:01:09,289 --> 01:01:11,234
See, I think you're absolutely right. Yeah. And

1874
01:01:11,234 --> 01:01:13,315
and if you and and if Iran is

1875
01:01:13,315 --> 01:01:15,315
the crown jewel and the final target, and

1876
01:01:15,315 --> 01:01:17,554
and they've been pretty clear about that, you

1877
01:01:17,554 --> 01:01:19,234
you just work backwards. How would you do

1878
01:01:19,234 --> 01:01:20,755
it? You would isolate it from any of

1879
01:01:20,755 --> 01:01:22,434
its allies and things like that. So so

1880
01:01:22,434 --> 01:01:23,414
it is a strategic,

1881
01:01:24,275 --> 01:01:25,014
it's rational.

1882
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,320
It's crazy, of course. But but but for

1883
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,920
the way they see it, it's rational to

1884
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,760
work your way through that and to to,

1885
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,260
you know, isolate Venezuela, get it to flip,

1886
01:01:33,719 --> 01:01:35,980
and then you could see I mean,

1887
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,380
obviously, you'll see pressure put on.

1888
01:01:38,925 --> 01:01:40,765
It's been put on Russia. There's always so

1889
01:01:40,765 --> 01:01:42,525
much pressure you can put on China when

1890
01:01:42,525 --> 01:01:44,525
they they hold so much of our debt,

1891
01:01:44,525 --> 01:01:47,425
and they manufacture so much of our pharmaceuticals,

1892
01:01:47,805 --> 01:01:49,724
and that we need them so much. So,

1893
01:01:49,724 --> 01:01:50,285
you know, you

1894
01:01:51,010 --> 01:01:53,650
you're gonna have those two guys there backing

1895
01:01:53,650 --> 01:01:54,630
Venezuela or,

1896
01:01:54,930 --> 01:01:55,829
backing Iran.

1897
01:01:56,289 --> 01:01:58,210
But anybody else who shows any sort of

1898
01:01:58,210 --> 01:02:00,050
loyalty, like, you will be picked apart. You

1899
01:02:00,050 --> 01:02:02,050
know, that this is, of course, the reason

1900
01:02:02,050 --> 01:02:03,590
why I think when you look at Somalia,

1901
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:06,704
it's getting sliced into Somaliland, and that's, of

1902
01:02:06,704 --> 01:02:07,445
course, geographically

1903
01:02:07,744 --> 01:02:08,885
right across from,

1904
01:02:09,585 --> 01:02:11,585
from Yemen. It'd be a good place if

1905
01:02:11,585 --> 01:02:13,184
you were Israel and you wanted to keep

1906
01:02:13,184 --> 01:02:14,885
an eye on somebody that might be,

1907
01:02:15,585 --> 01:02:17,265
coming after you in the future. Yeah. That'd

1908
01:02:17,265 --> 01:02:19,025
be a logical place. So you can see

1909
01:02:19,025 --> 01:02:21,025
kind of how things are playing out. It'll

1910
01:02:21,025 --> 01:02:21,525
all

1911
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:24,550
make perfect sense in the aftermath. Right? Once

1912
01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:26,630
World War three kicks off and it and

1913
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:27,190
it and it

1914
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:29,829
and and the fake history books are written,

1915
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:30,730
it'll all

1916
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:33,190
line up and you'll see where it's but

1917
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:34,250
trying to to

1918
01:02:35,375 --> 01:02:37,214
catch it in the middle and extrapolate out

1919
01:02:37,214 --> 01:02:38,894
where it's going is, of course, a little

1920
01:02:38,894 --> 01:02:40,355
bit more challenging. But

1921
01:02:40,655 --> 01:02:42,335
but you can you can see the moves

1922
01:02:42,335 --> 01:02:43,934
being made and and and you and of

1923
01:02:43,934 --> 01:02:45,714
course, it's also

1924
01:02:46,014 --> 01:02:48,974
extremely important to understand that these people have

1925
01:02:48,974 --> 01:02:50,809
a mindset of wanting

1926
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:52,329
war. But

1927
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:53,449
what we

1928
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:56,070
where we come at this is how what

1929
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:57,829
are our options for preventing war? How do

1930
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:59,430
we make sure that this war doesn't kick

1931
01:02:59,430 --> 01:03:01,590
off here here? And and and their their

1932
01:03:01,590 --> 01:03:02,730
mindset is

1933
01:03:03,590 --> 01:03:05,130
is is how do, you know,

1934
01:03:05,465 --> 01:03:07,545
how do we initiate crisis, how do we

1935
01:03:07,545 --> 01:03:10,025
start crisis initiation with Iran. Right? With with

1936
01:03:10,025 --> 01:03:12,605
the Pelham blossoms of the world talking about

1937
01:03:12,824 --> 01:03:15,144
Iranian submarines going down and sometimes they don't

1938
01:03:15,144 --> 01:03:16,905
come back up. Right? So so our mind

1939
01:03:16,985 --> 01:03:19,010
we have to remember that be we have

1940
01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:21,429
to be careful not to export our

1941
01:03:22,210 --> 01:03:26,210
sensible, reasonable, rational mindset onto them and think,

1942
01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:26,949
oh, well,

1943
01:03:27,250 --> 01:03:29,010
we're all looking for solutions to not have

1944
01:03:29,010 --> 01:03:30,710
World War three. Unfortunately,

1945
01:03:31,089 --> 01:03:34,094
some people are seeing that quite differently. Yeah.

1946
01:03:34,335 --> 01:03:36,894
And to your point about the more challenging,

1947
01:03:36,894 --> 01:03:38,175
you know, I agree with you. Like, in

1948
01:03:38,175 --> 01:03:40,094
a general sense, we should always consider that,

1949
01:03:40,094 --> 01:03:42,094
you know, we don't hindsight's twenty twenty. Right?

1950
01:03:42,094 --> 01:03:43,534
We don't always see every part of it,

1951
01:03:43,534 --> 01:03:45,375
and, usually, we don't. And there's plenty of

1952
01:03:45,375 --> 01:03:47,474
times when these things are much more difficult,

1953
01:03:47,534 --> 01:03:48,195
more nuanced.

1954
01:03:48,650 --> 01:03:50,170
But I'm of the mind today, and it's

1955
01:03:50,170 --> 01:03:51,449
just I mean, you could look at both

1956
01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:53,230
of our track records. Look at the information

1957
01:03:53,289 --> 01:03:55,449
we've been covering and how how far ahead

1958
01:03:55,449 --> 01:03:57,610
in general and, again, not because we're some

1959
01:03:57,610 --> 01:03:59,050
super sleuth. I mean, I do think we're

1960
01:03:59,050 --> 01:04:00,090
good at what we do, but it was

1961
01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:02,655
it's more so because it's just obvious today.

1962
01:04:02,735 --> 01:04:04,255
Like, I think that's important to note that

1963
01:04:04,255 --> 01:04:05,855
some of these things are just it is

1964
01:04:05,855 --> 01:04:07,135
easy to see. And I think what we're

1965
01:04:07,135 --> 01:04:09,934
highlighting right now is borderline not even debatable.

1966
01:04:09,934 --> 01:04:11,695
I think it's quite obvious this is part

1967
01:04:11,695 --> 01:04:13,135
of the agenda and that they will be

1968
01:04:13,135 --> 01:04:14,815
going after Ron if that's something they can

1969
01:04:14,815 --> 01:04:17,200
accomplish because they're they're telling us that. You

1970
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,519
know? So it's this interesting time where maybe

1971
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:21,440
by design, maybe because they're incompetent, maybe because

1972
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,360
they're not in control, that ultimately these things

1973
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,440
are pretty wildly obvious. But you get these

1974
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,640
big, like, bombastic million follower TeamSport politics players

1975
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,515
out there that are, know, historically have been

1976
01:04:30,515 --> 01:04:31,954
calling out all of these things, but now

1977
01:04:31,954 --> 01:04:33,715
it's finally happening. And they're like, you know,

1978
01:04:33,715 --> 01:04:35,474
look over there. Like, not really getting into

1979
01:04:35,474 --> 01:04:37,175
it. And so I think it's it's

1980
01:04:37,474 --> 01:04:38,994
I mean, you take your check your pick

1981
01:04:38,994 --> 01:04:39,655
out there.

1982
01:04:39,954 --> 01:04:41,954
It's happening and it's obvious why is up

1983
01:04:41,954 --> 01:04:43,690
for debate. But I think it's worth noting

1984
01:04:43,690 --> 01:04:45,369
that it is kind of that obvious in

1985
01:04:45,369 --> 01:04:46,430
some of these agendas.

1986
01:04:46,809 --> 01:04:48,329
Our work is evidence of that. You know?

1987
01:04:48,329 --> 01:04:50,410
It's it's interesting. But I I wanna do,

1988
01:04:50,890 --> 01:04:52,329
one last point on this while I just

1989
01:04:52,329 --> 01:04:53,690
kinda wrap up is, you know, the the

1990
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:55,930
Venezuela thing is is interesting beyond what we

1991
01:04:55,930 --> 01:04:57,369
talked about as well because there's so many

1992
01:04:57,369 --> 01:04:58,944
other moving parts to it. Like, we we

1993
01:04:58,944 --> 01:05:00,545
didn't we can talk about rare earth minerals,

1994
01:05:00,545 --> 01:05:02,944
lithium. We'll coup whoever we want. And Elon

1995
01:05:02,944 --> 01:05:04,784
said about Bolivia. Right? The these are real

1996
01:05:04,784 --> 01:05:06,385
discussions that very much have a play a

1997
01:05:06,385 --> 01:05:08,385
factor, and it's weird to me how little

1998
01:05:08,385 --> 01:05:11,025
conversation the lithium gets. It's unrealized. It's it's,

1999
01:05:11,025 --> 01:05:11,684
I think,

2000
01:05:11,989 --> 01:05:13,429
know, they have it's not real but it's

2001
01:05:13,429 --> 01:05:14,630
been shown to be one of the largest

2002
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:16,389
reserves, and that doesn't get talked about. And

2003
01:05:16,389 --> 01:05:18,469
that's huge for AI and for everything or

2004
01:05:18,469 --> 01:05:20,230
the gold, for example, or plenty of other

2005
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:21,989
things. But one thing we don't talk, like,

2006
01:05:21,989 --> 01:05:24,150
talk we didn't get into, like, Delsey Rodriguez

2007
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:26,485
and the interesting overlap there and whether she's

2008
01:05:26,485 --> 01:05:28,005
playing him or whether she's made a deal

2009
01:05:28,005 --> 01:05:29,284
and, you know, where it's all going because

2010
01:05:29,284 --> 01:05:30,965
I don't know. We'd be it'd be guessing

2011
01:05:30,965 --> 01:05:32,324
at this point, but it's interesting to see

2012
01:05:32,324 --> 01:05:34,485
how it's played out. But one argument about

2013
01:05:34,485 --> 01:05:36,405
immigration. Right? So if this had gone the

2014
01:05:36,405 --> 01:05:37,844
way it usually goes and they just came

2015
01:05:37,844 --> 01:05:39,765
in and just, you know, broke things and

2016
01:05:39,765 --> 01:05:40,425
went crazy,

2017
01:05:40,860 --> 01:05:43,099
there would be a massive influx of immigration

2018
01:05:43,099 --> 01:05:44,780
in The United States, which happens every time.

2019
01:05:44,780 --> 01:05:46,619
The sanctions caused that and still do. So

2020
01:05:46,619 --> 01:05:48,619
it's interesting that usually they wanna create that,

2021
01:05:48,619 --> 01:05:49,980
but at this point, it seems they're trying

2022
01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:51,500
to keep it a little bit more stable.

2023
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:53,019
But I think it's largely because of the

2024
01:05:53,019 --> 01:05:55,175
interest of the oil and more maintaining the

2025
01:05:55,175 --> 01:05:56,934
industry. But what the point is to make

2026
01:05:56,934 --> 01:05:58,375
that you're willing to now work with the

2027
01:05:58,375 --> 01:06:00,135
very people you just told us were monsters

2028
01:06:00,135 --> 01:06:01,894
and terrorists because, well, we need to profit

2029
01:06:01,894 --> 01:06:03,735
from the industry. It just they don't have

2030
01:06:03,815 --> 01:06:05,335
nothing is sacred to these people, and it's

2031
01:06:05,335 --> 01:06:07,349
as it's clear by everything they do. You

2032
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:09,269
know? They continue to show you this or

2033
01:06:09,269 --> 01:06:10,949
claiming he's part of the what was it?

2034
01:06:10,949 --> 01:06:13,109
The, Cartel del Soles or whatever the group

2035
01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:14,789
was. Oh, sorry. That doesn't even exist, and

2036
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:16,409
we made it up, but let's move forward.

2037
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:17,909
You know? It's like Exactly. That's what we're

2038
01:06:17,909 --> 01:06:19,574
talking about. It's obvious, guys. It's obvious.

2039
01:06:20,214 --> 01:06:22,454
There's a Henry Kissinger quote where he's talking

2040
01:06:22,454 --> 01:06:24,054
about the Khmer Rouge behind their back. He's

2041
01:06:24,054 --> 01:06:25,655
like, yeah. They're murderous thugs. Don't tell them

2042
01:06:25,655 --> 01:06:26,775
I said that. We will work with them,

2043
01:06:26,775 --> 01:06:27,894
but don't tell them I said that part.

2044
01:06:27,894 --> 01:06:28,934
Right. I really

2045
01:06:29,655 --> 01:06:30,855
You know, back back when they didn't know

2046
01:06:30,934 --> 01:06:32,454
what's funny is how many things you can

2047
01:06:32,454 --> 01:06:34,420
see when, you know, at different time. There

2048
01:06:34,420 --> 01:06:36,179
wasn't really the it wasn't Internet or, you

2049
01:06:36,179 --> 01:06:38,099
know, ways to, like, rapidly to see these

2050
01:06:38,099 --> 01:06:39,699
things. But you look back and these people,

2051
01:06:39,699 --> 01:06:41,460
you know, they they will wax intellectual about

2052
01:06:41,460 --> 01:06:43,059
why sanctions are used to hurt people. You

2053
01:06:43,059 --> 01:06:44,579
know? It's like Yeah. It's all there if

2054
01:06:44,579 --> 01:06:45,940
you wanna look. You know? It's just crazy.

2055
01:06:45,940 --> 01:06:48,005
But Well, I think good

2056
01:06:48,304 --> 01:06:50,545
good news for the general public is is

2057
01:06:50,545 --> 01:06:51,364
starting to

2058
01:06:51,664 --> 01:06:52,804
have this epiphany

2059
01:06:53,184 --> 01:06:55,204
that sometimes the American empire

2060
01:06:55,505 --> 01:06:57,844
is you know, we talk about Somali pirates.

2061
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:00,640
I mean, the American Empire is the biggest

2062
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960
pirate around. Exactly. And sometimes we will literally

2063
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,960
do pirate things like take their take your

2064
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,320
ships, take your oil, and and, you know,

2065
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,699
you have that that

2066
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,480
Hans Gruber moment. It's like, wait. This is

2067
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:12,980
about

2068
01:07:13,674 --> 01:07:14,255
a theft?

2069
01:07:14,954 --> 01:07:17,514
And it's like, yeah. And, you know, and

2070
01:07:17,514 --> 01:07:19,914
since we're thinking of moving into kidnapping, you

2071
01:07:19,914 --> 01:07:21,694
should show a little bit more respect,

2072
01:07:22,234 --> 01:07:23,514
you know. And this is this is how

2073
01:07:23,514 --> 01:07:25,275
the American empire you you go, wait a

2074
01:07:25,275 --> 01:07:27,069
second. I thought we were about spreading freedom

2075
01:07:27,069 --> 01:07:29,389
freedom and democracy. We're emptying out the bank

2076
01:07:29,389 --> 01:07:32,109
vault? It's like, it's always been about emptying

2077
01:07:32,109 --> 01:07:34,429
out the bank vault, dummy. Mhmm. You know?

2078
01:07:34,429 --> 01:07:37,089
Right. It's always been about taking the resources

2079
01:07:37,150 --> 01:07:39,174
of this country. I mean, the book that

2080
01:07:39,174 --> 01:07:41,094
woke me up to this, Confessions of an

2081
01:07:41,094 --> 01:07:43,335
Economic Hit Me by John Perkins, laid that

2082
01:07:43,335 --> 01:07:45,014
out in a way that I just I

2083
01:07:45,014 --> 01:07:45,994
couldn't comprehend

2084
01:07:46,534 --> 01:07:48,694
until he laid it out in a in

2085
01:07:48,694 --> 01:07:49,974
a in a manner. It's like, you think

2086
01:07:49,974 --> 01:07:51,755
that your local bank

2087
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,880
loans money into existence and gets you into

2088
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,280
something a debt, and then you fall behind.

2089
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,360
It takes back tangible assets like your house

2090
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,200
if you fall behind in the payments. Well,

2091
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,119
just think about that in terms of loaning

2092
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:04,820
money to a country like Venezuela

2093
01:08:05,355 --> 01:08:07,034
to by the IMF and the World Bank

2094
01:08:07,034 --> 01:08:08,815
and getting them to sign on to

2095
01:08:09,114 --> 01:08:10,574
hydroelectric power plant

2096
01:08:11,114 --> 01:08:11,614
construction

2097
01:08:11,914 --> 01:08:12,815
projects and,

2098
01:08:13,755 --> 01:08:16,414
you know, and falling behind in the payments

2099
01:08:16,715 --> 01:08:19,914
to these international banking loan sharks. And so

2100
01:08:19,914 --> 01:08:22,320
I think that for for for people that,

2101
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:22,899
you know,

2102
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,300
are interested in Venezuela, like,

2103
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,560
I I assure you the bankers were flying

2104
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,039
in first. Before the missiles came, the bankers

2105
01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:31,780
were there.

2106
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:34,871
They were having conversations and they sorting things

2107
01:08:34,871 --> 01:08:38,214
out because the governments come and go. But

2108
01:08:38,214 --> 01:08:41,557
those resources that are in the ground, those

2109
01:08:41,557 --> 01:08:44,900
will be controlled by the banks. Yep. And

2110
01:08:44,900 --> 01:08:48,243
they're in there working that out right now,

2111
01:08:48,243 --> 01:08:49,079
I I

2112
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,280
suspect. Well, he admitted, I think, clumsily as

2113
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,560
usual that he spoke to the to the

2114
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,560
oil companies before he told congress, and now

2115
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,680
they try to sort of wrap that up

2116
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,039
behind the scenes and say, well, no. I

2117
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,280
kind of mentioned it, but they they very

2118
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,800
clearly it's obvious when you look at the

2119
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,375
way it played out. You know? So this

2120
01:09:03,375 --> 01:09:04,975
happens, as you point out, every single time.

2121
01:09:04,975 --> 01:09:07,375
You know? And what I expect, if this

2122
01:09:07,454 --> 01:09:09,135
I'm still on the fence about what Delsey

2123
01:09:09,135 --> 01:09:10,435
Rodriguez is.

2124
01:09:10,814 --> 01:09:12,414
I think we're gonna see it, but I

2125
01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:15,135
I saw more today talking about her softening

2126
01:09:15,135 --> 01:09:16,574
to their interest and maybe meeting with the

2127
01:09:16,574 --> 01:09:18,210
US government. You know? It's like it that

2128
01:09:18,210 --> 01:09:19,729
even still could be just her trying to

2129
01:09:19,729 --> 01:09:21,569
not be overthrown, you know, because they're they're

2130
01:09:21,569 --> 01:09:23,010
still standing up there going, if you don't

2131
01:09:23,010 --> 01:09:24,369
do what we want, we're gonna come back

2132
01:09:24,369 --> 01:09:25,770
and bomb this and take you. It's like

2133
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:27,750
but democracy. You know, it's just embarrassing.

2134
01:09:28,210 --> 01:09:30,529
But where this ultimately goes, you know, what

2135
01:09:30,529 --> 01:09:32,369
she does next, whether she's I what I

2136
01:09:32,369 --> 01:09:34,744
expect is either that she'll stay underground, and

2137
01:09:34,744 --> 01:09:36,265
then they'll do more, which will continue to

2138
01:09:36,265 --> 01:09:38,505
show you what they're really about, or she'll

2139
01:09:38,505 --> 01:09:40,505
sell out. And, you know, whether that means

2140
01:09:40,505 --> 01:09:41,945
what we just discussed, but on top of

2141
01:09:41,945 --> 01:09:44,505
that, I expect Israeli bases to be built.

2142
01:09:44,505 --> 01:09:45,945
I expect US bases to be built. I

2143
01:09:45,945 --> 01:09:47,564
expect you know, which we've seen in Somaliland

2144
01:09:47,625 --> 01:09:49,210
and every other place, and it will happen

2145
01:09:49,210 --> 01:09:49,710
instantaneously.

2146
01:09:50,170 --> 01:09:51,729
Or we'll go, oh, guess what? Israel built

2147
01:09:51,729 --> 01:09:52,969
a base two years ago. You didn't know

2148
01:09:52,969 --> 01:09:54,569
about it. Oh, okay. So now it's been

2149
01:09:54,569 --> 01:09:56,329
something you know? That's where this tends to

2150
01:09:56,329 --> 01:09:57,449
go. So I think we need to, you

2151
01:09:57,449 --> 01:09:58,829
know, watch this carefully,

2152
01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:01,210
but just as we keep discussing this entire

2153
01:10:01,210 --> 01:10:03,289
show, we look at the surface. You can

2154
01:10:03,289 --> 01:10:05,545
see these things not because of anything other

2155
01:10:05,545 --> 01:10:08,425
than they're obvious. Right? That's not democracy. I

2156
01:10:08,425 --> 01:10:10,125
I made fun of Rick Scott, for example,

2157
01:10:10,265 --> 01:10:11,864
where he's like, if democracy is coming back

2158
01:10:11,864 --> 01:10:13,465
to the area and we're like, he that's

2159
01:10:13,465 --> 01:10:14,585
when he said, if you don't do this,

2160
01:10:14,585 --> 01:10:15,625
we're gonna come in and take you out

2161
01:10:15,625 --> 01:10:16,905
of the way. Delsey, you better do what

2162
01:10:16,905 --> 01:10:18,359
The US wants, or we're gonna come in.

2163
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,199
Because, clearly, that's democracy. Right? I mean, I

2164
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:22,439
don't even know if they recognize that they

2165
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,840
I I the self awareness may be lacking,

2166
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,520
or maybe they just, like you said, just

2167
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,520
wanna normalize the criminal activity and call it

2168
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,760
democracy. But we're in a bad we're the

2169
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,425
government's in a bad way right now. And

2170
01:10:32,425 --> 01:10:33,864
it's like, we can capitalize on this as

2171
01:10:33,864 --> 01:10:35,465
American people, and I think we should. You

2172
01:10:35,465 --> 01:10:38,265
know? So always appreciate your talking your conversation,

2173
01:10:38,265 --> 01:10:40,664
brother. Enjoy it. Well, I I appreciate you

2174
01:10:40,664 --> 01:10:42,505
having me on. I know that the next

2175
01:10:42,505 --> 01:10:43,564
time we do this,

2176
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,280
be like spinning the wheel of,

2177
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,319
of chaos and and whatever Yep. Whatever it's

2178
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:51,180
landing on. There'll be some new

2179
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,520
distraction that will feel extremely important in the

2180
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,000
moment, and and maybe will be, but but,

2181
01:10:57,239 --> 01:10:59,020
it'll fade away. And and we'll

2182
01:10:59,324 --> 01:11:01,344
they'll get us round wound up and

2183
01:11:02,045 --> 01:11:02,944
pissed off again.

2184
01:11:03,324 --> 01:11:05,744
Okay. Well, quick quick prediction for fun.

2185
01:11:06,204 --> 01:11:07,024
Next month,

2186
01:11:07,324 --> 01:11:09,324
what do you think not not like let's

2187
01:11:09,324 --> 01:11:11,164
let's try think of something you think might

2188
01:11:11,164 --> 01:11:13,130
happen that no one's talking about. That might

2189
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:14,170
be hard, actually. I'm trying to think of

2190
01:11:14,170 --> 01:11:14,670
something.

2191
01:11:14,970 --> 01:11:17,770
Well well yeah. Because it's because it's recently

2192
01:11:17,770 --> 01:11:19,369
started happening, but I just I just put

2193
01:11:19,369 --> 01:11:21,449
out an episode of macroaggressions called the Trump

2194
01:11:21,449 --> 01:11:24,109
doctrine. And and I was talking about Greenland.

2195
01:11:24,250 --> 01:11:26,010
I was thinking this isn't some I mean,

2196
01:11:26,010 --> 01:11:27,935
it it seemed like kind of like funny

2197
01:11:27,935 --> 01:11:29,215
when he started talking about it in the

2198
01:11:29,215 --> 01:11:30,675
2024.

2199
01:11:30,734 --> 01:11:32,675
And then but when you read about

2200
01:11:33,375 --> 01:11:34,194
about the

2201
01:11:34,494 --> 01:11:36,975
the Technocracy and the Technates and and and

2202
01:11:36,975 --> 01:11:39,715
these other groups, what you find is that

2203
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,239
there's a little bit more to what he's

2204
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:44,159
talking about. It's almost like he got briefed

2205
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,000
on a meeting, kinda got half of half

2206
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,760
of a briefing on on a meeting and

2207
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,000
started talking about Grain on people. What? What

2208
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,479
does this mean? There's more there. There's something

2209
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:53,920
there. So I I would

2210
01:11:54,465 --> 01:11:56,625
but I but, again, it doesn't really fit

2211
01:11:56,625 --> 01:11:58,625
your criteria because people are now starting to

2212
01:11:58,625 --> 01:11:59,824
talk about that. But I think in a

2213
01:11:59,824 --> 01:12:01,744
in a month from now, it's not gonna

2214
01:12:01,744 --> 01:12:03,664
be like, hey. This green one thing is

2215
01:12:03,664 --> 01:12:05,185
is kind of a crazy idea. It's gonna

2216
01:12:05,185 --> 01:12:06,625
be, do we take them next week or

2217
01:12:06,625 --> 01:12:07,364
next month?

2218
01:12:07,729 --> 01:12:09,729
Yeah. And so I I would add the

2219
01:12:09,810 --> 01:12:11,489
I this is kind of the same point

2220
01:12:11,489 --> 01:12:12,930
as I just saw a notification, so it's

2221
01:12:12,930 --> 01:12:14,710
not exactly the same point, but Mexico.

2222
01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:16,689
Literally just saw I mean, I I I

2223
01:12:16,689 --> 01:12:18,449
was the same mind. Like, Robert's article said

2224
01:12:18,449 --> 01:12:20,130
the same thing. There we've seen the threats,

2225
01:12:20,130 --> 01:12:22,449
Cuba, Mexico, which is just crazy that it's

2226
01:12:22,449 --> 01:12:24,125
even being done. But

2227
01:12:24,505 --> 01:12:26,425
I saw something today about more motion than

2228
01:12:26,425 --> 01:12:27,864
that. Now Trump's saying we may have to

2229
01:12:27,864 --> 01:12:29,564
bomb in Mexico to go after the cartels.

2230
01:12:29,784 --> 01:12:31,385
Like, so it's the same kind of general

2231
01:12:31,385 --> 01:12:33,864
narrative about the cartels in in Venezuela. And

2232
01:12:33,864 --> 01:12:35,545
so that's I I think that the your

2233
01:12:35,704 --> 01:12:37,064
what you just said is what was on

2234
01:12:37,064 --> 01:12:39,229
my mind, the tech Nate. The idea of

2235
01:12:39,229 --> 01:12:41,949
this entire North American union, Greenland, Mexico, and

2236
01:12:41,949 --> 01:12:42,770
it's almost

2237
01:12:43,070 --> 01:12:45,010
conspicuous. Like, you know, the it's

2238
01:12:45,630 --> 01:12:46,989
we've been calling this out, and then it

2239
01:12:46,989 --> 01:12:48,510
gets kinda falling into the background, but then

2240
01:12:48,510 --> 01:12:50,030
it just comes right back up. You know,

2241
01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:51,869
I I pointed to Peter Thiel, making it

2242
01:12:51,869 --> 01:12:53,475
clear he wanted, I think, for Praxia. He

2243
01:12:53,475 --> 01:12:55,154
wanted to build in Greenland. Now I don't

2244
01:12:55,154 --> 01:12:57,314
think that's the primary driving force. Certainly could

2245
01:12:57,314 --> 01:12:59,314
be. There's other interest there. There's I forget

2246
01:12:59,314 --> 01:13:01,395
his name. One of these Trump related billionaires

2247
01:13:01,395 --> 01:13:03,154
is already buying up Greenland business. Like, it

2248
01:13:03,314 --> 01:13:05,074
it's clear that they see the writing on

2249
01:13:05,074 --> 01:13:06,514
the wall. You know? So I I agree.

2250
01:13:06,514 --> 01:13:07,954
I think that's gonna be the next big

2251
01:13:07,954 --> 01:13:09,750
sort of drive there. But, I mean, there's

2252
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:11,829
plenty of things, you know, that like, the

2253
01:13:11,829 --> 01:13:13,270
point where I was kind of jokingly making

2254
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:15,510
is that by next month, it probably we're

2255
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:17,510
gonna be in another planet. Yeah. Like, something

2256
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:20,149
completely different. But, ultimately, I think these things

2257
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:21,984
will continue, and glad to keep calling them

2258
01:13:21,984 --> 01:13:23,505
out. Make sure you check out Charlie's work.

2259
01:13:23,505 --> 01:13:24,864
Anything you wanna leave us with on the

2260
01:13:24,864 --> 01:13:26,324
the way out? Any upcoming things?

2261
01:13:26,864 --> 01:13:28,784
Well, now well, now I'm like, I'll be

2262
01:13:28,784 --> 01:13:31,284
reporting to you from Mexico maybe next month.

2263
01:13:31,345 --> 01:13:32,885
Yeah. I'll be there for an Acapulco.

2264
01:13:33,185 --> 01:13:35,100
So maybe hold off on all the all

2265
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,239
the drone assassinations

2266
01:13:36,539 --> 01:13:40,159
until well, actually, forever, please. Yeah. Yeah.

2267
01:13:40,939 --> 01:13:43,840
Especially so no. Anarkapulco, I'll be there from,

2268
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:47,179
February 15 through the twentieth as the, as

2269
01:13:47,179 --> 01:13:50,079
the emcee for the five days herding anarchist

2270
01:13:50,139 --> 01:13:51,954
cats. Be a lot of fun, but it's

2271
01:13:51,954 --> 01:13:54,194
a it's a it's an interesting batch of

2272
01:13:54,194 --> 01:13:56,435
people. Good group. So for those interested in

2273
01:13:56,435 --> 01:13:57,734
arcapulco.com.

2274
01:13:57,875 --> 01:13:59,635
Awesome. Well, thanks, brother. I always enjoy it

2275
01:13:59,635 --> 01:14:01,154
and look forward to the next month. Good

2276
01:14:01,154 --> 01:14:03,715
to see you. Always question everything. Come to

2277
01:14:03,715 --> 01:14:04,375
your conclusions.

2278
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:05,659
Stay vigilant.