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Welcome to the last American Vagabond.

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What the hell is happening? Another episode today

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with Charlie Robinson to discuss the madness of

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this crazy cycle as always. As we said

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the last few times, the the the point

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was kind of just

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to reflect on how crazy the cycle is,

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and it really does increasingly make this point.

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I mean, I was even just thinking from

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last time, like, you know, I just I

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completely lose where we even were with the

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conversation. I think that's kind of the entire

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point. Right? It's like there's just so much

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chaos today. So Charlie joining us again to

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go over all the different madness. And the

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way we kinda set this up, we don't

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really much have much planned. I have different

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things that I wanna get into, and the

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point is to kind of just have a

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good conversation about where we are with our

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different work. So Charlie today with his,

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macroaggressions

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website as well as the activist post, don't

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forget, that is the new platform he's running.

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Make sure you check that out as well.

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And talking to you about some crazy stuff

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today, brother. How are you? Good to see

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you. Yeah. It's,

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it's hard to

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remember where we left off. I'm sure it

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was crazy,

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and we probably thought it was gonna get

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a little bit crazier. But,

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you know, there's one We were right. When

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when we were right, of course, unfortunately.

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One bit of good news, I would say

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interesting news, that came out this week is,

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Del Bigtree

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has a new movie out, and

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he he got into,

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he had an interaction with a doctor Marcus

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Zervos,

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who's a enthusiastic

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vaccine supporter. And they agreed to run a

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study on vaccine safety to,

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you know, see unvaccinated

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versus vaccinated. You know? Because a lot of

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this is like, you you

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you you know,

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we don't have the safety studies because they

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haven't done a lot of these basic tests,

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and I'm sure Dell was telling him this.

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And and my assumption is that it probably

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was like, well, then let's just do a

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study together. And the real criteria was guy

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the the pro vaccine guy was was on

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board to do that? Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk

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about it. It's interesting. Keep going. Yeah. And

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and the and the and the requirement was

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that we publish the findings no matter what.

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I love it. And so you go from

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2016 to 2020.

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It wraps up. They take a look at

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the numbers.

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It's a catastrophe

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Of course. For the vaccine guy Mhmm. And

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he doesn't publish.

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Of course. But see, what's really fascinating to

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me is that this shows you that he

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at least, you'd assume, that he thought

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that so he was wrong, and he thought

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that somehow, with all the information, that he

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was gonna be proven correct. That's a really

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interesting thing to think about because the evidence

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is shockingly obvious, but yet this guy who's,

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I guess, an expert or, you know what

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in the world allowed him to think that

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he was right? Probably trusting experts that are

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wrong. You know? It's it's a fascinating overlap.

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study in human psychology too and how people

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get bought into certain things and and and

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it talks you know, goes back to Yuri

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Bezmenov talking about demoralization.

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I can shower them with authentic information. It

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won't change. They've been demoralized. And so some

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of this, you you you go into it

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making the assumption, oh, I'll just present logical

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factual information, and then they'll see it. And

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they'll go, oh, I was I didn't know

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this. And then they'll come around. And then

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and you do that. You have these interactions,

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and people don't respond that way. And and

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what happened in this case was that the

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didn't publish

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it. So Dell hooked up, I guess, an

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a hidden camera and went in and had

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a a conversation with him about, like, hey,

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man. Like, what what are we doing? Like,

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you said you were gonna put this out.

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And he said, if I were to put

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this out, it would ruin my career and

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end my career. Wow. You know, frankly, it

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might even end your life knowing what we

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know about how dark the pharmaceutical

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industry could be. So that was the reasoning.

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I understand

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it. I don't respect it, but I understand

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it. And, of course, I'm sure I'm sure

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Dell,

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you know, I'm sure that was a calculation

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he made as well. Like, when this comes

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out, he is not gonna be happy with

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the results.

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And then he may he may not publish.

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And so I may have to, you know,

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I may have to get him to publish

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it or whatever. So so that's where we

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are. And so, you know, I think part

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of what this guy probably couldn't wrap his

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was that they had 2,000 unvaccinated

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and not a single one of them had

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tics, or other psychological

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disorders. No. But the vaccinated group did. Now

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you had to see that. Yeah. To be

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objective, though, I'm sure this is the way

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they did it. But just to ask, was

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it a randomly selected group of kids, or

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did they pick kids who weren't vaccinated? Because

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if they got to choose them, you could

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argue, and trust me, you know I'm on

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your side of this, but Yeah. And that

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and that, I don't know. I'd I'd I'd

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have to defer to to Dell and to

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I would imagine they'd have to their votes

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and who set it up and how they,

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you know, sort of what the criteria was

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for all of that. Historically, that's exactly what

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they would do because their interest is making

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sure that there's no excuse to deny the

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reality, and I very much believe that. Yeah.

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Now second point as well is that the

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guy not publishing shows you a second thing.

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Like, because, you know, I'd argue somebody wouldn't

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go into this if they knew they would

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have proven wrong. You know? Like, so he

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must have thought he would be right, and

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then he makes the conscious choice to not

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do it, which shows you

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his hierarchy, his career is more important, or

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maybe he thinks he's threatened. But, you know,

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like I said, there's no way you can

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respect that or like you said, because that

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is your choose so you're all you're you're

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fronting about wanting to do right by people

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and keep them safe with vaccines. That's clearly

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not your motivating factor. Right? I mean, because

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you now find out they're dangerous and you

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do nothing about that. It's just it's crazy

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out there in this conversation. Do you have

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an article linked to that?

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We can bring it up on the screen

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as well. No. But I do. I haven't

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heard No. But it it it was making

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quite a few places. I think if somebody

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just searched Del Bigtree, doctor Marcos I'll grab

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that one. Zervos, Z E R V 0

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elaborating a little bit more, what they did

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in the vaccinated group Yeah. What was three

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times more developmental delays, two point nine times

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more motor disabilities, five point five times higher

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risk for neurodevelopmental

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disorders,

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four point five times more speech disorders, which

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COVID, by the way. This ended in 2020.

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Six times higher risk for autoimmune disorders, and

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then that,

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80 different diseases within,

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autoimmune disorders. So that opens up, like you're

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six times more likely to get 80 different

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types of things. Okay? So,

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three times higher risk for atopic diseases, that's

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six times higher risk for ear infections. You

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and but I remember being a kid, and

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for a variety of things, and it seemed

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like ear infections was a real common thing.

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kids get ear infections. I don't know. It's

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just kind of what it is. But then

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when I see that you're six times higher

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risk of ear infections by being vaccinated,

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like, just natural that all kids get ear

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infections and needs to get need to get

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tubes in their ears or whatever.

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there's something else at play here. And when

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it's laid out here with numbers by four

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point two nine times more likely to have

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asthma, how many kids do you know with

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an inhaler, you know, growing up?

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maybe that's vaccine damage. And you start to

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go back inside your own

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world and start to, you know, unpack things,

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go, what about that kid? And what about

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that person? You know? And and you go,

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my goodness. I mean, how much of this?

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as, you know, wear and tear, I guess.

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I don't know. Just the the cost of

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being alive is is in actual fact

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because of these dangerous shots. And and to

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have this come out,

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and they had to admit so here's the

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quote from it. Here's from their findings.

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said. They were expecting the different results. Quote,

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in contrast to our expectations,

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we found that exposure to vaccination was independently

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associated with an overall

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two point five fold

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increase in the likelihood

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of developing a chronic health condition

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to vaccination.

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that what you're saying? So is that okay.

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out through well, let me let me make

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sure I understand it. So Delwyn with the

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hidden information basically suppose that he didn't wanna

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release it. Then how did it ultimately come

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out? I'm not sure. I I I'm not

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sure. I I I haven't watched this movie

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yet. It makes me I I feel like

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explain. Coming out. I'm assuming it all explained

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in the movie. I just read an article

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on it and and went down a little

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bit of that rabbit hole because of, of

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course, one of the things that what they

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chance of developing a chronic disease. This is

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what they talked about, a two point five

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fold increase in likelihood of developing a chronic

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health condition. So the chance of developing a

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chronic disease in the first ten years of

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life,

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vaccinated kids,

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fifty seven percent,

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unvaccinated

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kids, seventeen percent. Wow.

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That's a gigantic

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number. Alright? And you take that and you

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take these numbers that we've seen, we've all

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seen the the the ratio that's coming down

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unfortunately about autism, and you start to go,

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okay. Well, listen.

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You know, if you're new to this, like,

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there's a lot of smoke here. Oh, yeah.

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There's a lot of smoke.

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At at at what point do you have

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to recognize that maybe there's a fire? I

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mean, it and I get it that there's

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a lot of psychological components

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at play where if you're somebody,

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a parent who has

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has just because you were doing what you

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thought was the right thing, you have subjected

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your children to this, you put them through

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all this, and now you come to this

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realization, and you have some kind of, like,

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moral crossroads to come to where you you

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either have to acknowledge that you've made a

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mistake,

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though it wasn't really your fault,

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but or you double down and just say,

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no, vaccines are the only answer. I can't

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allow myself to accept the possibility that maybe

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I harmed my kids in some way because

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it wasn't their intention and you don't want

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that guilt and you don't know how to

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process all this. And so there's a psychological

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side to this that I think is really,

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really interesting. How again, like,

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the guy probably took a look at those

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results and just said,

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I can't reconcile this, and I cannot go

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back to work

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with the people I work

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with. With this, it's just like a a

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huge f hanging over me. You know? I

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would argue you would. I would argue I

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would. Right? And that's not I I I'm

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not even trying to make put us on

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some pedestal. I argue there's a lot more

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people out there that would, especially today with

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what we've all gone through, make the conscious

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choice to do things to their detriment that

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might expose a larger problem. You know what

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I mean? Like, I I I just don't

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under I don't know how I could ever

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continue my day to day life knowing that

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I'm hiding something that is potentially killing that

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many people. You know, it's it's just a

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I just can't even reconcile that. You know,

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it's but what's interesting, though, about the larger

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point is and, you know, and I'm glad

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you said this because this is something I've

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talked about a lot,

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is, you know, we have this weird idea.

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Like, cancer is a big one where if

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I was always just you know, people just

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get cancer. No. They don't just get cancer.

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Right? No. You don't just randomly get an

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ear. Now there are some more common things.

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Like, you can even argue, like, people that

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are that swim more often can get, like,

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ear infections. Right? That's correct. There's some overlaps.

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Right? But the point is that there's always

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a catalyst, even if we can't figure that

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out. You don't just get ear infections. Right?

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You don't just get cancer. There's something that

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is going wrong. Your body's reacting to that,

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and that's what's happening. And so what's so

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crazy is we've got this normalcy. Well, you

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know, yeah, it's just cold season. That's not

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that's not how you look at that. You're

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getting a cold because your body is suffering,

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because your immune system is suffering. And so

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it's so fasting that we're breaking through these

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walls, but it's I think the biggest thing

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to see is that people in these expert

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fields are the worst in this regard. You

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know? And it's just like, do you need

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I'm just I'm glad Del Bigtree and the

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rest are doing this. I gotta check out

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the movie. I just it's I mean, obviously,

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their whole career has been calling this stuff

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out. That's not mean it doesn't mean he's

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right about everything. There's plenty of things I

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could point out that we've disagreed on, but

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it's clear to me that his intentions are

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to try to break this down. So I'm

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glad to see that. Yeah. And, of course,

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it's not to say that

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vaccines give every child autism every time. Right?

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This is it is sometimes outweigh the risks

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for me. There there's just there's a lot

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of factors at play here, and it it's

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a contributing factor to it. And how much

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on the pie chart people wanna assign responsibility

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to vaccines, that is obviously very subjective, and

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and I think people can make cases for

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for for that. But but when you just

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lay out the hard evidence and then also

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just kind of the behavior of the person.

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Yeah. If I woke up one day and

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I and I realized I was that far

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off base with something, I think I would

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I think it would be a turning point

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in my life. You know, I'd have to

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just look at you know, face myself and

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say, like,

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how could I have that big of a

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blind spot? And, you know, and and I

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would be probably

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an advocate for vaccine safety if I were

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in his shoes. But Exactly. Of course,

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you know, this is the very human side

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of this. We're not all ideologically aligned on

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this, and some people don't have a, you

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know, they have a flexible moral compass or

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they have a mortgage payment that is making

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them make calculations

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that that they don't love, but they have

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to make and that, you know, and and

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all that stuff. And, I mean, the medications

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they need or, you know, there's always that

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that's very common. That's always a lot of

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things. An excuse. There's an there's a the

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and there's a justification, I guess, in in

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some ways if if you try hard enough.

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But, I mean,

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let's just be honest. This is this is

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hurting kids. The longer we pretend that this

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isn't a thing, those numbers on autism are

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not getting any better.

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And in world, we pretend it's not deliberate.

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That's my opinion, but my god. You know?

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Like, there's just really no way you break

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this all down and walk away thinking, oopsie.

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You know? It's just not possible for me.

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And it's a it's a force

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I'd call it a force multiplier if it

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was for good. A force force subtractor, I

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suppose, because it's not just the the child

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who is sick with

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autism. Mhmm. Obviously, depending on the scale, how

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how how involved the parent needs to be.

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But now the parent is involved

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forever, for a lifetime. They can't sometimes

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give that that's a child who doesn't

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age up and and leave the nest. That's

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a that's it turns into later in life

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a massive stress for the parents. What happens

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when I die? Who's gonna take care of

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him? Right. You know, he's been with me

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forever. The only you know? And so

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it's it's it's a contagion effect. It's not

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just the the the person, the the the

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kids and the the numbers that we've seen,

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which are astronomical and alarming,

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but it's also that factor of who else

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in their orbit it impacts, and it never

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gets better, and it never goes away.

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Yep. And and this is something that many

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of us have been calling out for a

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very, very, very long time, like, way, way

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back before. And, you know, and same to

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Wakefield and Del Bigtree, like, you know, way

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ahead of most. Right? But that there's and

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this is what's so crazy. I remember doing

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breakdowns on this looking before there was even,

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like, provable and I argue there's provable evidence

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today. Just kinda going, I mean, come on.

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Like, look at this rack, this s like,

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exponential increase, like, over like, a perfect correlation

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from 1986. Right? It's like you just can't

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ignore that. And, yeah, even at that time,

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I'm going, well, I'm not gonna say I

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could prove this is exactly correlation. It's not

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causation. But you can't go from whatever, one

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in five thousand to one in fifteen or

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whatever the hell it is today. And that's

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the it's the same thing with cancer, by

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the way. You can go from this radical

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reality, you know, that over the process of,

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like, twenty years, almost every American, one point

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in their life, will get cancer from where

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it was before. Yeah. And then, of course,

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overlap that with the idea that it's pretty

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much at one point at least, and I

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think still somewhat today, one of the only

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pharmaceutical drugs where doctors get a direct cut

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of the profit of what they sell. You

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know, because we live in a very broken

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system, but the good thing is that people

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are starting

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to to see this, you know, but the

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the the change hasn't happened yet. I think

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it's being stifled by a government pretending like

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they're fighting to change everything while they're

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instilling the problem forever. You know, you know

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what I'm talking about, but I'm glad we're

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talking about these things, so thank you for

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bringing it up today. Yeah. Yeah. I I

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mean, I I think that the first step

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towards fixing this is shocking people into

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understanding that not only is there you know,

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when you see these ratios, they they're alarming.

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But but then when you you start to

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see higher numbers and for,

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of very specific issues.

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And I think that people then can recognize

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there's enough issues on this list of of

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theirs that they can go, well, I know

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somebody with this. And then it starts to

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make you think, what was it? Because of

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the shot? You know? And so if you

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start to have that if you're starting to

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question, that's a that's where it begins. You

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know? You you then start to ask questions.

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Well, maybe these maybe there's some

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questions about this and may who's who's making

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this? And you go, well, I'm glad you

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asked. They're all convicted felons.

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You know? And, they're they're and they pay

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a fine for harming people, and they don't

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worry about it. It's just funny that we've

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you know, it's like all we can do

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is laugh about something like that. It's how

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crazy it is. And, you know, that's not

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a hyperbolic statement. I mean, how about I

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mean, Pfizer, for example. It's been literally charged

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with with federal I mean, look at the

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I mean, we've gone over that long Pfizer

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tracker list of all the times they've lied

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about safety regulations, lied about what they can

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do, lied about the out the side effects.

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You know, there's, like, 10 I think what

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was the last time I looked, it's, like,

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a it's billions of dollars. You know? But

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same point with I mean, you as much

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as this makes people angry to point out,

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even Donald Trump is convicted despite the fact

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that nothing was ever done about it. You

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know? It was I we people watching the

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show for the maybe new. I I'm not

523
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gonna speak for Charlie, but I believe both

524
00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:49,690
of us argue that both sides of the

525
00:17:49,690 --> 00:17:51,450
paradigm, all of them, Biden and Trump, were

526
00:17:51,450 --> 00:17:53,049
pretty much the same criminal. You know? But

527
00:17:53,049 --> 00:17:55,210
it's it's just wild, though, to see that

528
00:17:55,210 --> 00:17:56,684
we can be dealing with that face value

529
00:17:56,765 --> 00:17:58,285
value and nothing changes. That's kinda what I

530
00:17:58,285 --> 00:17:59,485
was gonna say about the point of all

531
00:17:59,485 --> 00:18:01,325
this with vaccines and everything is, you know,

532
00:18:01,325 --> 00:18:03,825
the study's right there. The evidence continues. And

533
00:18:04,125 --> 00:18:05,404
I forget his name now. The guy who

534
00:18:05,404 --> 00:18:07,505
was, from the CDC was the whistleblower,

535
00:18:07,805 --> 00:18:09,690
top tip of my tongue, from Brian Hooker?

536
00:18:09,849 --> 00:18:11,450
Yes. Thank you. He did a study a

537
00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:12,970
long time ago that did the same thing.

538
00:18:13,929 --> 00:18:15,450
James Lyons Wyler came out with a recent

539
00:18:15,450 --> 00:18:17,450
one during COVID. All of these studies show

540
00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:19,869
you that vaccinated kids are far, far more

541
00:18:20,009 --> 00:18:22,855
unhealthy, and nothing continues to change. It's the

542
00:18:22,855 --> 00:18:24,694
same thing I'm saying about the recognition of

543
00:18:24,694 --> 00:18:26,534
Israel. You know, it's like, how is it

544
00:18:26,534 --> 00:18:28,294
we keep having this I mean, I think

545
00:18:28,294 --> 00:18:29,894
that's the first recognition we need to have

546
00:18:29,894 --> 00:18:31,974
is that we have literally no influence on

547
00:18:31,974 --> 00:18:33,575
the outcome of what's happening in this country.

548
00:18:33,575 --> 00:18:34,934
And I'm I'm sorry to say that, but

549
00:18:34,934 --> 00:18:36,375
we can see it. Like, things that matter,

550
00:18:36,375 --> 00:18:38,490
we can all recognize the problem, and it

551
00:18:38,490 --> 00:18:40,809
just continues to just be narrative and the

552
00:18:40,809 --> 00:18:42,330
people at the top of the fake paradigm

553
00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:43,690
scream at each other, and they go get

554
00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:45,049
in front of congress and yell, and, you

555
00:18:45,049 --> 00:18:46,890
know, just nothing ever changes. Not I'm not

556
00:18:46,890 --> 00:18:48,170
saying that we can't fix that. I know

557
00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:49,734
we can, but just we need to realize

558
00:18:49,734 --> 00:18:51,255
that we're there. Same with the vaccines. You

559
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:54,294
know? The the optimist in me says this

560
00:18:54,294 --> 00:18:55,674
is a coiled spring

561
00:18:56,054 --> 00:18:57,355
Mhmm. Of frustration.

562
00:18:57,815 --> 00:19:00,375
Oh, yeah. It is building and building and

563
00:19:00,375 --> 00:19:01,674
building with

564
00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:02,794
big pharma,

565
00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:05,900
with the Israel lobby, with a lot of

566
00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:06,400
things

567
00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:08,860
that it's been it's been happening for a

568
00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:09,360
while.

569
00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:11,360
The noticing

570
00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:14,380
Mhmm. Of a variety of topics has has

571
00:19:14,380 --> 00:19:14,880
started.

572
00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:15,580
There's

573
00:19:18,765 --> 00:19:20,144
so it feels like

574
00:19:21,164 --> 00:19:21,664
maybe

575
00:19:22,605 --> 00:19:25,725
we're set to launch out of this into

576
00:19:25,725 --> 00:19:28,705
a a new paradigm where people don't reflexively

577
00:19:28,924 --> 00:19:30,924
trust Anthony Fauci when he comes out there

578
00:19:30,924 --> 00:19:31,965
and says that we have to

579
00:19:32,730 --> 00:19:34,490
spend two weeks to flatten the curve or

580
00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:36,250
the next person who tries to sell the

581
00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:38,329
next narrative. And people go, you know what?

582
00:19:38,329 --> 00:19:40,809
It sounds a little too Fauci esque for

583
00:19:40,809 --> 00:19:41,309
me.

584
00:19:42,170 --> 00:19:44,835
No thank you. You're you know, what name

585
00:19:44,835 --> 00:19:47,234
that whatever climate emergency. It'll be some new

586
00:19:47,234 --> 00:19:48,835
guy with a white lab coat who'll say

587
00:19:48,835 --> 00:19:50,914
we, you know, we looked at the at

588
00:19:50,914 --> 00:19:52,674
the in the sky, and we have a

589
00:19:52,674 --> 00:19:54,434
climate emergency, and so you all have to

590
00:19:54,434 --> 00:19:55,335
be in your house.

591
00:19:55,714 --> 00:19:57,015
And I think maybe,

592
00:19:57,714 --> 00:19:58,375
you know,

593
00:19:59,149 --> 00:20:00,509
I guess if I could if I could

594
00:20:00,509 --> 00:20:02,269
be optimistic about what we went through over

595
00:20:02,269 --> 00:20:04,109
the last five years with COVID and and

596
00:20:04,109 --> 00:20:05,250
all of that is that

597
00:20:06,109 --> 00:20:07,789
I think for a segment of the population,

598
00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:09,389
it'll be tough to pull another one of

599
00:20:09,389 --> 00:20:10,929
these tricks again because

600
00:20:11,230 --> 00:20:12,049
we've been

601
00:20:12,394 --> 00:20:14,875
so vocal about pointing out what they do,

602
00:20:14,875 --> 00:20:16,654
why they do it, how they do it.

603
00:20:16,714 --> 00:20:18,075
Look. They're gonna do this, and then they

604
00:20:18,075 --> 00:20:19,454
do it. And,

605
00:20:20,075 --> 00:20:22,154
and I think people have watched this enough.

606
00:20:22,154 --> 00:20:23,534
It's like watching a magician,

607
00:20:23,835 --> 00:20:25,559
you know, watching how he does the trick.

608
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,200
Next time around, next time you go to

609
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,360
the show, you know, I know how he

610
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,220
does that. I know he's got it here.

611
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,519
You're looking there, and he's got the thing

612
00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:33,660
here, and boom.

613
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,600
And and so it just loses its power.

614
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,519
That's the thing that has been felt like

615
00:20:39,615 --> 00:20:41,555
that I felt in the last six months.

616
00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:44,815
The grip, the narrative control seems to be

617
00:20:44,815 --> 00:20:46,654
loosening on a lot of things. People are

618
00:20:46,654 --> 00:20:48,815
pushing back about vaccines and people are asking

619
00:20:48,815 --> 00:20:50,994
questions about Israel and that is fantastic.

620
00:20:51,694 --> 00:20:53,694
That's a great start, but of course, as

621
00:20:53,694 --> 00:20:56,190
we know, it's not gonna be enough. It's

622
00:20:56,190 --> 00:20:58,670
it's Yeah. You you there's going to have

623
00:20:58,670 --> 00:21:00,130
to come a time where

624
00:21:00,910 --> 00:21:03,069
you make some decisions. I'm not taking any

625
00:21:03,069 --> 00:21:05,069
more shots. I'm not gonna allow my kids

626
00:21:05,069 --> 00:21:06,349
to be a part of this. I'm not

627
00:21:06,349 --> 00:21:08,429
going to do that. Or it's I'm not

628
00:21:08,429 --> 00:21:09,170
going to

629
00:21:09,474 --> 00:21:11,494
go to my church whose

630
00:21:12,115 --> 00:21:13,714
pastor is telling me to go stand with

631
00:21:13,714 --> 00:21:15,894
Israel. Like, I'm not doing that. That's crazy

632
00:21:16,115 --> 00:21:18,274
talk. You know what I mean? So people

633
00:21:18,274 --> 00:21:19,494
are starting to,

634
00:21:20,355 --> 00:21:23,234
starting to ask questions, and and I'd say,

635
00:21:23,234 --> 00:21:25,820
you know, better better late than never. Oh,

636
00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:27,420
absolutely. I mean but I this is I've

637
00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:29,580
talked a while back not so much recently,

638
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:31,440
but a while back about, you know, redefining

639
00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:33,680
what success looks like. You know? Like, understanding

640
00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:35,420
what is it I think I think what

641
00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:36,940
we have to start to understand is that

642
00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:39,085
there there may never be an outcome. That

643
00:21:39,085 --> 00:21:41,245
what we're doing is the point. Right? Simply

644
00:21:41,245 --> 00:21:42,924
standing up for what is correct and fighting

645
00:21:42,924 --> 00:21:44,765
for the right things and, you know, I

646
00:21:44,765 --> 00:21:46,525
I I mean, as we see it, obviously,

647
00:21:46,525 --> 00:21:48,525
we could disagree as individuals, but, you know,

648
00:21:48,525 --> 00:21:49,884
I think that's what this comes down to.

649
00:21:49,884 --> 00:21:51,085
You know, it's the the kind of never

650
00:21:51,085 --> 00:21:52,205
ending battle of good and evil. Like, I

651
00:21:52,205 --> 00:21:53,404
don't think I don't there's not gonna be

652
00:21:53,404 --> 00:21:54,240
some moment moment where we go, you know,

653
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,599
plant the flag and we did it. It's

654
00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:56,960
all over. Like, it just never seems like

655
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,240
that's the case. So it's I just I

656
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,240
think it's important that we just recognize that

657
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,320
the momentum of awareness is the win in

658
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,220
and of itself. You know? A 100%.

659
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,119
I think that you it's very tough to

660
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,200
quantify this stuff. Yeah. But when when people

661
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,315
start start,

662
00:22:11,595 --> 00:22:15,035
reflexively asking questions about things, that's good. That's

663
00:22:15,195 --> 00:22:17,674
that that's a that that that's a a

664
00:22:17,674 --> 00:22:19,695
place where look. I'm not trying

665
00:22:20,154 --> 00:22:22,235
to tell people what to think

666
00:22:22,795 --> 00:22:24,315
Mhmm. At all. I know how I feel

667
00:22:24,315 --> 00:22:25,055
about things.

668
00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:27,809
But I would I would I would like

669
00:22:27,809 --> 00:22:30,230
to try and encourage people to

670
00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:34,150
learn how to be critical about this information.

671
00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:36,130
Yep. Maybe not what to think, but how

672
00:22:36,130 --> 00:22:37,509
how to go about

673
00:22:38,115 --> 00:22:38,615
thinking

674
00:22:38,994 --> 00:22:41,075
about these process, you know, about what you're

675
00:22:41,075 --> 00:22:42,994
seeing. You know, they're trying to sell me

676
00:22:42,994 --> 00:22:44,674
a narrative. They're trying to convince me to

677
00:22:44,674 --> 00:22:46,694
feel a certain way. I mean, my my

678
00:22:46,755 --> 00:22:48,214
Twitter x feed is

679
00:22:48,674 --> 00:22:50,375
trying to make me hate people.

680
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,839
You know what I mean? Right. But but

681
00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:54,700
but the the simple awareness

682
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,059
of that

683
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,680
diffuses the power a little bit. So I

684
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,799
can look at it and go, what are

685
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:01,559
they trying to make me? They're trying to

686
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:03,320
get me angry. They're showing me all kinds

687
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,075
of fight videos today. I don't know why.

688
00:23:05,075 --> 00:23:06,755
I'm not liking them. I'm not even really

689
00:23:06,755 --> 00:23:08,835
watching them, but they not you know, whatever

690
00:23:08,835 --> 00:23:09,735
it is. So,

691
00:23:10,115 --> 00:23:11,955
again, like, if you can get this new

692
00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:14,355
generation, the normies out there, not to not

693
00:23:14,595 --> 00:23:16,835
I don't you think however you wanna think

694
00:23:16,835 --> 00:23:19,259
about Israel or vaccines or whatever, but

695
00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:21,720
just know that you're going to be sold

696
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960
a narrative, that it's not going to be

697
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,679
true, it's gonna be very manipulative. And once

698
00:23:26,679 --> 00:23:29,720
you recognize that, then you're gonna go, this

699
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,365
is this is nonsense. This is this is

700
00:23:32,365 --> 00:23:32,845
trying to,

701
00:23:33,724 --> 00:23:35,644
manipulate me into feeling a certain way. I

702
00:23:35,644 --> 00:23:37,325
wonder why they're doing that. I almost actually,

703
00:23:37,325 --> 00:23:38,845
you wanna feel the exact opposite way. You

704
00:23:38,845 --> 00:23:40,525
know what I mean? And so you you

705
00:23:40,525 --> 00:23:43,005
start to recognize this, and I think that's

706
00:23:43,005 --> 00:23:45,085
the I think that to me would be

707
00:23:45,085 --> 00:23:47,769
victory. Not that everybody thinks the way we

708
00:23:47,769 --> 00:23:49,049
think because we're all gonna think a little

709
00:23:49,049 --> 00:23:51,630
bit differently anyway. But just that they're thinking

710
00:23:51,690 --> 00:23:54,250
that they're thinking about thinking. You know? That

711
00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:54,990
that that is

712
00:23:55,529 --> 00:23:56,029
sorely,

713
00:23:56,410 --> 00:23:56,910
lacking,

714
00:23:57,289 --> 00:23:59,755
unfortunately too as we've noticed in this world.

715
00:23:59,755 --> 00:24:01,755
So just the thought that, like, hey, man,

716
00:24:01,755 --> 00:24:04,154
you can't outsource your critical thinking to these

717
00:24:04,154 --> 00:24:06,234
lunatics. They don't want what you want. You're

718
00:24:06,234 --> 00:24:08,075
gonna have to be responsible for the thoughts

719
00:24:08,075 --> 00:24:10,315
in your head and the information you consume

720
00:24:10,315 --> 00:24:11,835
and where you get it, who you listen

721
00:24:11,835 --> 00:24:13,849
to and all that stuff. And so that's

722
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:14,970
your responsibility

723
00:24:15,589 --> 00:24:17,609
is to, like, filter out all the nonsense

724
00:24:18,309 --> 00:24:20,309
and and get good sources. So, I mean,

725
00:24:20,309 --> 00:24:21,829
like Right. And so and and to take

726
00:24:21,829 --> 00:24:23,029
it a little further, you know, so it's

727
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:24,950
like the point is is is the action

728
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:26,735
of it. Like and, like, maybe maybe they're

729
00:24:26,735 --> 00:24:28,255
not lying. Maybe they're using the truth to

730
00:24:28,255 --> 00:24:30,174
deceive you. Right? But it's about the intent

731
00:24:30,335 --> 00:24:32,815
like, questioning the intention. And maybe you never

732
00:24:32,815 --> 00:24:34,495
even find out the intention because that's usually

733
00:24:34,495 --> 00:24:36,015
the hardest thing to really prove or find

734
00:24:36,015 --> 00:24:38,095
out in general. But it's the simple act

735
00:24:38,095 --> 00:24:38,674
of going,

736
00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:41,710
could they be lying? Could they be deceived?

737
00:24:41,849 --> 00:24:44,329
With literally every single thing you come across.

738
00:24:44,329 --> 00:24:46,250
Now that may sound exhausting, and that is

739
00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:48,490
in part the the lie. Right? They've trained

740
00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:49,470
you to be so

741
00:24:50,089 --> 00:24:52,490
passive and just accept what's presented for you

742
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:54,494
because it's easier to manipulate people like that.

743
00:24:54,575 --> 00:24:56,575
You have to question everything while considering all

744
00:24:56,575 --> 00:24:57,075
possibilities.

745
00:24:57,375 --> 00:25:00,095
If your intention or or desire is to

746
00:25:00,095 --> 00:25:02,255
be informed and be critical, right, you could

747
00:25:02,255 --> 00:25:03,934
choose to go do whatever you want. But

748
00:25:03,934 --> 00:25:05,375
it it it's the problem is the people

749
00:25:05,375 --> 00:25:07,454
that present themselves as being critical thinkers in

750
00:25:07,454 --> 00:25:10,275
the independent mainstream alternative media and then

751
00:25:10,869 --> 00:25:12,309
don't do that. Right? It's like that that's

752
00:25:12,309 --> 00:25:13,829
the illusion about it. But you're right, though,

753
00:25:13,829 --> 00:25:15,369
is it's like we just need to start

754
00:25:15,429 --> 00:25:17,829
applying that to everything and recognize it's not

755
00:25:17,829 --> 00:25:19,750
always a deception. Maybe the person saying this

756
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:22,390
is acting with the best of intentions, and

757
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,044
they're being deceived. It's, you know, it's very

758
00:25:24,044 --> 00:25:26,125
simple. Yep. I mean, everybody truly knows this

759
00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:27,884
at the core. There's just levels at which

760
00:25:27,884 --> 00:25:29,804
they decide to ignore it because my guy

761
00:25:29,804 --> 00:25:31,325
is the good guy, there's the bad guy.

762
00:25:31,325 --> 00:25:33,325
You know, it all becomes very simple. But,

763
00:25:33,325 --> 00:25:34,924
you know, it's the thing is, I think

764
00:25:34,924 --> 00:25:37,105
most people out there who are being deceived

765
00:25:37,804 --> 00:25:39,000
genuinely want good things

766
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:40,359
for this country. That's one of the important

767
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,599
things to recognize. They're not the villainous, you

768
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:44,440
know, ready to go. We're gonna screw this

769
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,880
person over because they're on the other side.

770
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,400
Most of them have been convinced that you

771
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,759
are the enemy because of what the other

772
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:50,359
guy said. And, you know, it's like I

773
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,880
just so it's so important to break down

774
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,240
on that. But to your point about the

775
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:53,740
spring,

776
00:25:54,304 --> 00:25:56,065
it's interesting. You know, I I agree with

777
00:25:56,065 --> 00:25:57,825
that entirely, and I think what we see

778
00:25:57,825 --> 00:26:00,384
is the called release valve efforts. You know,

779
00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:01,904
to throw you a bone and say, okay.

780
00:26:01,904 --> 00:26:04,065
Well, here's a redacted Epstein list. Is that

781
00:26:04,065 --> 00:26:05,664
is that spring loosening a little bit like

782
00:26:05,664 --> 00:26:06,944
a little steam room out of there? You

783
00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:08,570
know? And the point is that it's just

784
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:09,930
not going to happen. You know? And so

785
00:26:09,930 --> 00:26:11,769
now the question is that's what I think

786
00:26:11,769 --> 00:26:13,210
we both talked about many times in these

787
00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:13,950
very discussions,

788
00:26:14,730 --> 00:26:16,590
what seems to be happening with the technocratic

789
00:26:16,650 --> 00:26:19,049
rollout, the surveillance, the kind of tightening up,

790
00:26:19,049 --> 00:26:20,970
you know, the the control structure, the control

791
00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:23,174
grid as Catherine discusses it, that that is

792
00:26:23,255 --> 00:26:24,695
being done in an effort to make sure

793
00:26:24,695 --> 00:26:25,894
we get to a place to where they

794
00:26:25,894 --> 00:26:27,414
don't at this point, the spring can pop

795
00:26:27,414 --> 00:26:29,414
off and it's not connected anymore. If to

796
00:26:29,414 --> 00:26:30,695
go with the analogy, you know, where it

797
00:26:30,695 --> 00:26:32,055
won't make an effect. They don't care what

798
00:26:32,055 --> 00:26:33,035
we think or say.

799
00:26:33,494 --> 00:26:34,875
That's what we're fighting. Yeah.

800
00:26:35,335 --> 00:26:37,674
Yeah. I I think that's a real

801
00:26:38,410 --> 00:26:40,410
a real concern. I mean, people are walking

802
00:26:40,410 --> 00:26:42,910
themselves into a digital prison here, and I'm

803
00:26:42,970 --> 00:26:43,869
I'm alarmed

804
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:47,130
by it. And the sales pitch is is

805
00:26:47,130 --> 00:26:49,930
ongoing and, you know, I'm I'm also starting

806
00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:51,529
to get a bit freaked out. Well, not

807
00:26:51,529 --> 00:26:53,049
freaked out. That's not the right word. But

808
00:26:53,049 --> 00:26:53,549
just

809
00:26:54,714 --> 00:26:55,694
additionally alarmed,

810
00:26:56,154 --> 00:26:57,774
about the consolidation

811
00:26:58,394 --> 00:27:01,595
of the media under Larry Ellison Yep. In

812
00:27:01,595 --> 00:27:04,494
his group. Right. That to me is is,

813
00:27:05,994 --> 00:27:09,160
what's massively suspicious. I I get bad vibes

814
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,059
about all of it.

815
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,460
You know, his daughter's been involved in Hollywood

816
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:16,619
as a producer for a long, long time,

817
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,660
and,

818
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,355
it's not it's not a real stretch to

819
00:27:20,355 --> 00:27:21,634
see him do this. And when you've got

820
00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:23,255
all the money in the world, you start

821
00:27:23,315 --> 00:27:25,875
buying assets like this. But I don't think

822
00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:27,734
this is part of a broader investment

823
00:27:28,035 --> 00:27:29,654
portfolio for Larry Ellison

824
00:27:30,515 --> 00:27:33,154
because of his intelligence ties. I just see

825
00:27:33,154 --> 00:27:34,055
this as

826
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:39,039
a megaphone for Israel and CIA

827
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:40,960
because he's he's

828
00:27:41,259 --> 00:27:43,579
intertwined with both. I don't know if I

829
00:27:43,579 --> 00:27:45,980
don't know where the Israel starts and the

830
00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:48,595
CIA stops. You know? But you can debate

831
00:27:48,595 --> 00:27:50,115
that, really. I mean, look at the outcome.

832
00:27:50,115 --> 00:27:52,115
Look at the immediacy of taking over TikTok

833
00:27:52,115 --> 00:27:53,714
and the very first things that happened where

834
00:27:53,714 --> 00:27:56,115
it's an immediate clamp down on talking of

835
00:27:56,115 --> 00:27:58,595
Israel and even censorship around the discussion of

836
00:27:58,595 --> 00:28:00,059
the deal itself. You know what I mean?

837
00:28:00,059 --> 00:28:01,980
Like, they're just people denying that. You know,

838
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:03,500
they just came out and clamped down. And

839
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:04,940
so the point is this is only one

840
00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:05,440
element

841
00:28:05,819 --> 00:28:08,299
of a much larger apparatus. Now, I mean,

842
00:28:08,299 --> 00:28:11,179
almost weirdly skeptical of why he's being it's

843
00:28:11,179 --> 00:28:13,419
very prominent in, like, even in mainstream conversations.

844
00:28:13,419 --> 00:28:14,700
So it's kind of you know, I kinda

845
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:16,765
feel like, like, I know it's important, but,

846
00:28:16,765 --> 00:28:19,045
you know, it's just one sliver of the

847
00:28:19,045 --> 00:28:20,484
larger control that's been there for a very

848
00:28:20,484 --> 00:28:21,845
long time. You know, we've broken down the

849
00:28:21,845 --> 00:28:24,164
six companies that have basically now four, you

850
00:28:24,164 --> 00:28:26,085
know, Comcast, AT and T, you know, that

851
00:28:26,085 --> 00:28:28,085
run everything. And he's just one part of

852
00:28:28,085 --> 00:28:29,769
that now that's kind of, you know, tightening

853
00:28:29,769 --> 00:28:31,369
up one corner. You know? Yeah. He's he's

854
00:28:31,369 --> 00:28:34,170
got a proposal to acquire Warner Brothers, HBO,

855
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:34,910
and CNN.

856
00:28:35,289 --> 00:28:37,049
Wow. Yeah. See, Warner Brothers is a huge

857
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:39,130
one that then I this is probably behind

858
00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:41,529
the scenes come down to two, maybe even

859
00:28:41,529 --> 00:28:43,869
just one conglomerate that effectively controls

860
00:28:44,695 --> 00:28:47,174
everything, media, print, radio. I mean, I guess,

861
00:28:47,174 --> 00:28:49,815
you know, video, print, radio. That just just

862
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:51,575
think about the control that that gives somebody

863
00:28:51,575 --> 00:28:54,855
today. Yeah. It's overwhelming. Yeah. Because, you know,

864
00:28:54,855 --> 00:28:57,414
any good propaganda is, like, 95%

865
00:28:57,414 --> 00:28:59,015
true. You know, you only have a little

866
00:28:59,015 --> 00:29:00,440
bit of of the of the negative in

867
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,180
there. And but but this also gives them,

868
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,960
even if they went with, we're gonna give

869
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,000
you a 100% truth. Let's just let's just

870
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,380
say that they did that.

871
00:29:11,335 --> 00:29:13,095
Where they would get you would be the

872
00:29:13,095 --> 00:29:15,095
lies by omission. Exactly. It would be the

873
00:29:15,095 --> 00:29:17,174
stories that were never talked about. Right. And

874
00:29:17,174 --> 00:29:19,975
that's it. So it's part of this, we

875
00:29:19,975 --> 00:29:21,975
have an attention span. We've got only so

876
00:29:21,975 --> 00:29:23,575
much that we can take in in a

877
00:29:23,575 --> 00:29:25,619
day. We're gonna prioritize what it is. We'd

878
00:29:25,619 --> 00:29:27,380
love to get to that other good stuff,

879
00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:29,220
but they don't make it available. Right? If

880
00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:30,119
if they wanna

881
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:32,819
feed you a curated version of of the

882
00:29:32,819 --> 00:29:33,319
news,

883
00:29:34,099 --> 00:29:36,599
and that's all it is, and the lie

884
00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:38,954
isn't anything that they told you. It's just

885
00:29:38,954 --> 00:29:41,134
that they didn't tell you about this

886
00:29:41,515 --> 00:29:44,394
massively important story that everybody should be talking

887
00:29:44,394 --> 00:29:46,875
about that they have kept hidden. Yeah. That's

888
00:29:46,875 --> 00:29:48,974
really where the danger comes in. Of course,

889
00:29:49,035 --> 00:29:51,674
they will lie. Yeah. They have Smith's Month

890
00:29:51,674 --> 00:29:52,174
Modernization

891
00:29:52,474 --> 00:29:54,799
Act to protect them from lying. So they're,

892
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,319
of course, going to be lying, and it'll

893
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:57,779
be like Zionist propaganda

894
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,319
like you've never seen before. And, like, as

895
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,799
you said about TikTok, just turn off all

896
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,960
the accounts that are critical of that, have

897
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,160
AI scan for keywords, talking about this, this,

898
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,904
and that, boom, everybody's gone. So it's not

899
00:30:10,904 --> 00:30:12,825
so much that they have to change the

900
00:30:12,825 --> 00:30:13,325
opinion

901
00:30:14,024 --> 00:30:17,065
of what people think about is what Israel

902
00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,664
is doing. They just have to make it

903
00:30:18,664 --> 00:30:20,744
so you can't hear anything. Yeah. And and

904
00:30:20,744 --> 00:30:22,424
as they said very clearly, like, that's what

905
00:30:22,424 --> 00:30:24,150
Yackarina was all about. Now she's kind of

906
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:25,670
exited stage left, I guess. But, you know,

907
00:30:25,670 --> 00:30:27,349
it's just very weird that she was, like,

908
00:30:27,349 --> 00:30:28,869
you know, that most people I think it

909
00:30:28,869 --> 00:30:30,549
was something like 90% or she threw out

910
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:32,309
a number. I I've never looked into it,

911
00:30:32,309 --> 00:30:33,830
but her claim was that that very high

912
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:36,730
amount of people will, will correct their action.

913
00:30:36,955 --> 00:30:39,355
Not necessarily wrong or illegal, but just correct

914
00:30:39,355 --> 00:30:41,115
whatever they want them to correct should they

915
00:30:41,115 --> 00:30:42,715
give them that nudge and say, oop. You're

916
00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:45,195
muted for twenty four hours. Then most people

917
00:30:45,195 --> 00:30:46,955
will end up never doing that again. And

918
00:30:46,955 --> 00:30:48,315
this is something I saw in regard to

919
00:30:48,315 --> 00:30:49,914
people like us where somebody's trying to send

920
00:30:49,914 --> 00:30:51,434
us a direct message, and they get they

921
00:30:51,434 --> 00:30:53,360
get their account locked. And as somebody sent

922
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,200
me this twice, it happened. And so that

923
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,559
would probably never reach out to me again.

924
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,160
You know? It's it's very easy to see

925
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720
how social engineering is taking place. And this

926
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,559
is the e this is like the the

927
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:03,059
benign

928
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,600
on surface kinda stuff. Like, god only knows

929
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,214
the kinda stuff they're doing in very deep

930
00:31:07,454 --> 00:31:09,615
algorithmic and channeling kind of, you know, getting

931
00:31:09,615 --> 00:31:12,015
us in certain groups and pressing ideas and

932
00:31:12,015 --> 00:31:13,294
seeing how we respond. I mean, this is

933
00:31:13,294 --> 00:31:15,454
all this is happening like split second AI

934
00:31:15,454 --> 00:31:17,534
kind of training algorithm decisions right now. It's

935
00:31:17,615 --> 00:31:18,654
I mean, I I don't I don't think

936
00:31:18,654 --> 00:31:20,255
we even fully grasp the level to which

937
00:31:20,255 --> 00:31:21,615
this is happening, you know, or we've talked

938
00:31:21,615 --> 00:31:22,434
about this before.

939
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:25,289
It it is it it really is tough

940
00:31:25,349 --> 00:31:26,409
to to

941
00:31:27,349 --> 00:31:28,250
fully grasp

942
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:31,369
how this information can be used. I mean,

943
00:31:31,589 --> 00:31:33,909
like, I have a marketing degree. And if

944
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:36,409
the extent of what Google was doing

945
00:31:36,865 --> 00:31:38,724
was trying to tailor make

946
00:31:39,744 --> 00:31:42,704
the AdSense ads to so that if I

947
00:31:42,704 --> 00:31:44,224
know I'm looking to buy a new suit

948
00:31:44,224 --> 00:31:45,984
because I emailed somebody about it, then I

949
00:31:45,984 --> 00:31:46,964
get an ad for

950
00:31:47,345 --> 00:31:49,125
places that sell new suits, whatever.

951
00:31:50,069 --> 00:31:51,289
I could live with that

952
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:53,589
because of my marketing background. Wouldn't love it,

953
00:31:53,589 --> 00:31:55,029
but I can live with that. But it

954
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:58,069
is now turned into them knowing what you're

955
00:31:58,069 --> 00:32:00,390
going to do before you do it, and

956
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:01,909
that and and and you go, oh, that's

957
00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:03,384
crazy. That would never happen. And you start

958
00:32:03,384 --> 00:32:04,825
to read some of the papers of the

959
00:32:04,825 --> 00:32:06,505
the technology that they have, and you go,

960
00:32:06,505 --> 00:32:08,664
oh my god. This this this how how

961
00:32:08,664 --> 00:32:09,404
is this

962
00:32:10,265 --> 00:32:12,025
how is this happening? You know, how is

963
00:32:12,025 --> 00:32:13,464
this true? Am I I I tell the

964
00:32:13,464 --> 00:32:16,424
story of of my wife telling having a

965
00:32:16,424 --> 00:32:18,360
a a funny dream where she in in

966
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:18,940
her dream,

967
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:21,480
she had she woke me up. She was

968
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,880
like, hey. I I I detailed our car,

969
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,240
and she had taken her car and put

970
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Kansas City Chiefs stuffs all over the car

971
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,525
in this dream for some reason. Mhmm. And

972
00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:30,644
she told me the dream, and I was

973
00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:32,724
like, that's crazy. Then she told her mom

974
00:32:32,724 --> 00:32:34,644
the the story of the dream, and her

975
00:32:34,644 --> 00:32:36,825
mom laughed. And then, like, two days later,

976
00:32:37,204 --> 00:32:39,785
all the ads on her Facebook were decals

977
00:32:39,845 --> 00:32:42,404
and stickers for Kansas City Chiefs stuff for

978
00:32:42,404 --> 00:32:44,519
her car. And so she showed me that.

979
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:46,359
I was like, yeah. Yeah. They're listening to

980
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:48,200
you, and they're they're doing all this, and

981
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,779
it's really creepy. And it's and and nobody

982
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,500
appreciates it, but it's it's gone

983
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,695
beyond that now. Well, and it's also nudging

984
00:32:56,755 --> 00:32:59,075
decisions. Like, you may see, we noticed that

985
00:32:59,075 --> 00:33:00,835
because it happens to connect. It's all the

986
00:33:00,835 --> 00:33:02,674
things you don't notice. Right. It's all the

987
00:33:02,674 --> 00:33:04,275
imagery that you don't even think about that

988
00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:05,955
are infecting what you think about that day

989
00:33:05,955 --> 00:33:08,115
and what you wanna buy later. So your

990
00:33:08,115 --> 00:33:10,089
political you know, it's just you know and

991
00:33:10,089 --> 00:33:11,929
this is not even getting into the digital

992
00:33:11,929 --> 00:33:13,929
twins overlap, which we've talked about as well.

993
00:33:13,929 --> 00:33:16,849
This is just algorithmic predictive models. Like, you

994
00:33:16,849 --> 00:33:18,649
know, you overlap that with, like, the actual

995
00:33:18,649 --> 00:33:20,589
mapping out of your day to day actions

996
00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:22,409
that you've ever done your entire life since

997
00:33:22,409 --> 00:33:24,009
you were born that's been recorded, and then

998
00:33:24,009 --> 00:33:24,255
adding

999
00:33:25,214 --> 00:33:26,595
adding what we say

1000
00:33:26,894 --> 00:33:27,866
right now to the real time feed of

1001
00:33:27,866 --> 00:33:28,287
what that thing does and it's a little

1002
00:33:28,287 --> 00:33:29,615
sim city. You know, those those are very

1003
00:33:29,615 --> 00:33:31,615
real and actually happening. You know? It's like

1004
00:33:31,615 --> 00:33:33,134
that that's so far beyond what we can

1005
00:33:33,134 --> 00:33:34,575
even think about. You know? And that's I

1006
00:33:34,654 --> 00:33:36,174
I'm of the mind that this is beyond,

1007
00:33:36,174 --> 00:33:38,440
like I mean, it's it's think about the

1008
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,159
world in which the like, predictably, they could

1009
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,319
forget the numbers. Like, high percentages decide what

1010
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:44,839
you may do next week on a Tuesday

1011
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,599
at 3PM. Mhmm. But what if it's gone

1012
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:48,269
beyond that and it quite literally is predictive

1013
00:33:48,269 --> 00:33:50,225
at this point? Like, that's not that far

1014
00:33:50,225 --> 00:33:51,664
fetched to where it's like they could literal

1015
00:33:51,825 --> 00:33:53,424
and then what that does for a government

1016
00:33:53,424 --> 00:33:54,865
and deciding what to buy and what to

1017
00:33:54,865 --> 00:33:56,144
do and actions to take in the world,

1018
00:33:56,144 --> 00:33:58,705
and now you're just literally gaining society. You

1019
00:33:58,705 --> 00:34:00,384
know? That's what I think they're trying to

1020
00:34:00,384 --> 00:34:02,309
do. Maybe already there. If you wanna take

1021
00:34:02,309 --> 00:34:04,069
some acid and and read a Philip k

1022
00:34:04,069 --> 00:34:05,669
Dick book and think about all this, they

1023
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:07,429
may be just figuring out the best way

1024
00:34:07,429 --> 00:34:09,109
to predict where you're gonna be, so they

1025
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:11,109
only have to render your world in that

1026
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:12,090
little region

1027
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:14,570
and not render the rest of the universe

1028
00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:17,195
for you because you're in some deep simulation.

1029
00:34:17,494 --> 00:34:18,894
You know what I mean? Like, you never

1030
00:34:19,015 --> 00:34:19,335
I mean

1031
00:34:20,775 --> 00:34:21,974
It, yeah, it gets but, see, it gets

1032
00:34:21,974 --> 00:34:23,815
so abstract that there's you know, especially for

1033
00:34:23,815 --> 00:34:25,375
somebody like me where I'm just like, okay.

1034
00:34:25,375 --> 00:34:26,934
I mean, I am interested as hell by

1035
00:34:26,934 --> 00:34:28,375
stuff like this. Like, it's even like you

1036
00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:29,815
get into, like, the nanotech, and it's like

1037
00:34:29,815 --> 00:34:31,480
some of that is pre provable today, but

1038
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,680
it gets to a point where you're like,

1039
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,519
okay. You know, it's it's like trying to

1040
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:35,880
discuss what's going on on the moon. It's

1041
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,160
like, how do we ever think we can

1042
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,320
prove any you know, we the experts say

1043
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,920
you know, it's like you never really know.

1044
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,199
And so for that kind of stuff, I'm

1045
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,400
just like what I do, I'm like, well,

1046
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,519
I'm just gonna go to what I can

1047
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:45,880
prove today. That's the best I can do.

1048
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,634
Sure. But it's like, you know, that stuff

1049
00:34:47,634 --> 00:34:49,234
seems very much like it's not just real,

1050
00:34:49,234 --> 00:34:50,514
but it is going to have an immediate

1051
00:34:50,514 --> 00:34:52,674
effect on our lives very soon, if not

1052
00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:53,815
already, like you're saying.

1053
00:34:54,994 --> 00:34:57,154
And and to be fair, just because it's

1054
00:34:57,154 --> 00:34:59,394
not provable right now by you doesn't mean

1055
00:34:59,394 --> 00:35:01,875
that it isn't actually happening. So Exactly. But

1056
00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,429
but we have to, and you and I

1057
00:35:03,429 --> 00:35:05,210
have always been pretty good about differentiating

1058
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:07,429
between when we're talking about something we can

1059
00:35:07,429 --> 00:35:09,429
prove and when we're speculating because we have

1060
00:35:09,429 --> 00:35:11,349
to. So it's fun to speculate, and there's

1061
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:14,469
a lot there's a mysterious universe out there.

1062
00:35:14,469 --> 00:35:15,929
And and I,

1063
00:35:16,805 --> 00:35:18,485
you know, I don't pretend to know how

1064
00:35:18,485 --> 00:35:20,744
it all works. And I wonder sometimes

1065
00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:22,805
if they think they know how it all

1066
00:35:22,805 --> 00:35:24,405
works, you know, because when you start to

1067
00:35:24,405 --> 00:35:26,905
hear things about Ronald Reagan bringing in astrologers

1068
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,204
and all that and how billionaires are using

1069
00:35:29,204 --> 00:35:31,329
astrologers and you go, wait a second. Wait

1070
00:35:31,329 --> 00:35:32,849
a second. I that was all this stuff

1071
00:35:32,849 --> 00:35:33,909
is kinda dismissed.

1072
00:35:34,449 --> 00:35:36,449
I was dismissive of it, and it was

1073
00:35:36,449 --> 00:35:37,889
very kooky. And then you start to look

1074
00:35:37,889 --> 00:35:39,089
into it, and you go, well, maybe there's

1075
00:35:39,089 --> 00:35:39,329
a little

1076
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,829
I don't know. Maybe there's a little more

1077
00:35:42,130 --> 00:35:44,305
magic to this whole place than than what

1078
00:35:44,305 --> 00:35:46,144
we're led to believe. And of course, as

1079
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,065
I get older, I start to learn just

1080
00:35:48,065 --> 00:35:49,445
about everything I was taught

1081
00:35:49,744 --> 00:35:51,844
was a lie or something, you know. Right.

1082
00:35:52,785 --> 00:35:54,485
Everything becomes like

1083
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:57,829
Possible. A possibility. You're so open to interpret

1084
00:35:58,070 --> 00:36:00,230
open to questioning, you know? So I hope

1085
00:36:00,230 --> 00:36:01,750
I never lose that. I hope I'm always

1086
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:04,170
sort of asking, like, you know, what's going

1087
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:06,150
on there? You do this long enough. You

1088
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:08,230
realize very quickly that it's like, okay. You

1089
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:09,945
you if the moment that you close off

1090
00:36:09,945 --> 00:36:11,945
your mind to any possibility is the moment

1091
00:36:11,945 --> 00:36:13,505
you start to lose sight of, you know,

1092
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:15,005
I mean, any number of things. Like, you

1093
00:36:15,625 --> 00:36:16,125
I'll

1094
00:36:16,425 --> 00:36:17,704
put it this way. It's amazing to me

1095
00:36:17,704 --> 00:36:19,465
how many times I've gone through these things

1096
00:36:19,465 --> 00:36:21,065
where it's something that I was not versed

1097
00:36:21,065 --> 00:36:22,744
on that I would have immediately dismissed in

1098
00:36:22,744 --> 00:36:24,210
other parts of my life, where you come

1099
00:36:24,210 --> 00:36:26,230
to find out that's quite literally what's happening.

1100
00:36:26,289 --> 00:36:28,289
And you just kinda go and if you

1101
00:36:28,289 --> 00:36:30,050
had been like, oh, that's fake news, or,

1102
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:31,809
oh, that's something I'm supposed to believe is

1103
00:36:31,809 --> 00:36:33,489
fake, you would have never even had been

1104
00:36:33,489 --> 00:36:35,650
open to the possibility of the evidence that

1105
00:36:35,650 --> 00:36:38,614
set you on that path. It's just ignorance,

1106
00:36:38,835 --> 00:36:40,755
willful ignorance to do that, you know, learned

1107
00:36:40,755 --> 00:36:42,994
helplessness. It is always within your power. You

1108
00:36:42,994 --> 00:36:43,494
know?

1109
00:36:43,875 --> 00:36:45,735
But let's Yeah. Oh, good.

1110
00:36:46,434 --> 00:36:49,235
Well, I've the part of what has happened

1111
00:36:49,235 --> 00:36:50,695
in American culture

1112
00:36:51,074 --> 00:36:53,079
has that this this willful

1113
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:55,159
ignorance is is somehow

1114
00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:56,360
elevated

1115
00:36:56,739 --> 00:36:58,760
proudly. You know, it's like like,

1116
00:36:59,699 --> 00:37:01,619
I I don't don't know nothing and I'm

1117
00:37:01,619 --> 00:37:03,480
proud of it, you know. Yeah. It's like,

1118
00:37:03,539 --> 00:37:06,454
well, wait a second. Where's that intellectual curiosity

1119
00:37:06,594 --> 00:37:08,114
to figure out how the world works? And

1120
00:37:08,114 --> 00:37:09,795
don't you get I get offended when I

1121
00:37:09,795 --> 00:37:11,474
think I'm being lied to. And I feel

1122
00:37:11,474 --> 00:37:12,994
like the people on TV are lying to

1123
00:37:12,994 --> 00:37:15,074
me and my politicians are lying to me,

1124
00:37:15,074 --> 00:37:16,674
and I I take it personally and get

1125
00:37:16,674 --> 00:37:19,059
pissed off about it. Don't you? Well, and

1126
00:37:19,179 --> 00:37:21,500
no. You know? I think it's cognitive dissonance.

1127
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,199
I I just think they get uncomfortable

1128
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:25,440
by it and, you know, or it undermines

1129
00:37:25,739 --> 00:37:27,500
the team that they see themselves being on

1130
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:28,860
as a part of their identity. You know,

1131
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:30,460
there's a 100 different ways that people just

1132
00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:32,875
kinda go, you know. I I sadly, some

1133
00:37:32,875 --> 00:37:34,234
of them that very much see it and

1134
00:37:34,234 --> 00:37:35,594
choose to ignore it, but I think most

1135
00:37:35,594 --> 00:37:37,355
are just people that are brushing up against

1136
00:37:37,355 --> 00:37:39,194
it and just close down to it because

1137
00:37:39,194 --> 00:37:40,954
they've been trained to in a a thousand

1138
00:37:40,954 --> 00:37:42,255
different ways, you know.

1139
00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:44,635
And don't stand out. Don't don't stand out

1140
00:37:44,635 --> 00:37:46,255
from the herd. That's it's dangerous.

1141
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:49,230
The herd doesn't love it. You know, you

1142
00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:51,150
put a target on yourself. You know, maybe

1143
00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:52,750
you know, after you do that a couple

1144
00:37:52,750 --> 00:37:54,989
times in life, sometimes you learn to just,

1145
00:37:54,989 --> 00:37:56,349
you know, not try to get out of

1146
00:37:56,349 --> 00:37:57,630
the crab bucket. You know, you try to

1147
00:37:57,630 --> 00:37:59,469
pull everybody else down because you you want

1148
00:37:59,469 --> 00:38:00,750
them down there with you. So, again, it

1149
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:03,265
goes back to, like, the psychology of people

1150
00:38:03,265 --> 00:38:05,425
and how they see themselves. And and what's

1151
00:38:05,425 --> 00:38:07,344
been fascinating to me over the last couple

1152
00:38:07,344 --> 00:38:09,344
of months has been this this new I

1153
00:38:09,344 --> 00:38:10,945
don't know if it's a study or it

1154
00:38:10,945 --> 00:38:12,945
was an article or something that came out

1155
00:38:12,945 --> 00:38:16,030
talking about people with or without inner monologues.

1156
00:38:16,090 --> 00:38:17,369
And I think that brought up a whole

1157
00:38:17,369 --> 00:38:18,730
new thing where people are going, well, wait

1158
00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:19,390
a second.

1159
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:21,769
Do I have one? Do do you not

1160
00:38:21,769 --> 00:38:23,210
have one? I have one. Do you not

1161
00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:24,409
have one? I have one. And and the

1162
00:38:24,409 --> 00:38:26,670
other so it was like, you know,

1163
00:38:27,695 --> 00:38:29,454
what was it? The red dress, blue dress

1164
00:38:29,454 --> 00:38:31,534
there or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Or that The

1165
00:38:31,534 --> 00:38:33,215
gold dress, blue dress. There's always one of

1166
00:38:33,215 --> 00:38:34,974
those every so many every so many months

1167
00:38:34,974 --> 00:38:36,815
or something. Yeah. But that that's interesting though

1168
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:38,414
because, I mean, that would be pretty weird

1169
00:38:38,414 --> 00:38:40,335
to suddenly realize that you are the other,

1170
00:38:40,335 --> 00:38:41,829
you know, like, what you guys do? You

1171
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:43,030
know, like, what? That would be a pretty

1172
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:44,789
weird thing to realize that you're somehow different.

1173
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:45,909
But, I mean, I would argue that really

1174
00:38:45,909 --> 00:38:47,429
just comes down to an intelligence thing. You

1175
00:38:47,429 --> 00:38:49,190
know? Like, whether or not you're like because,

1176
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:51,670
you know, look, frankly, you're probably much happier

1177
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:53,510
if you're just, like, literally like, I I

1178
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:54,789
I think about this in my life in

1179
00:38:54,789 --> 00:38:56,405
ways that I think I am unique. Like,

1180
00:38:56,405 --> 00:38:57,764
I think the reason I'm good at that

1181
00:38:57,764 --> 00:38:59,045
that I'm, like, kind of made for what

1182
00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:00,244
I do here in this for to a

1183
00:39:00,244 --> 00:39:01,925
degree is that I have an ability to

1184
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:04,724
sort of, you know, sometimes not, sometimes stuff

1185
00:39:04,724 --> 00:39:06,025
sits with me, but kind of

1186
00:39:06,324 --> 00:39:08,005
after I get done work, just kinda focus

1187
00:39:08,005 --> 00:39:09,400
on my garden or what I'm doing and

1188
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,319
just I'm present. You know? And and you

1189
00:39:11,319 --> 00:39:12,760
find a piece in that that you're not

1190
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,519
constantly just reviewing all the things in your

1191
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:16,119
mind. And if I wasn't capable of that,

1192
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:17,239
I feel like, you know, I this stuff

1193
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,599
would which people I've known in this have

1194
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:19,960
just kind of burned out because it's too

1195
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,719
much, and I get it. You know? But

1196
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,639
to somebody like that that just you're always

1197
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,664
kinda focused on the current moment, that's probably

1198
00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:27,105
probably pretty happy at the end of the

1199
00:39:27,105 --> 00:39:28,885
day. Yeah. Envious.

1200
00:39:29,265 --> 00:39:31,184
There's there's a lot of, you know, there's

1201
00:39:31,184 --> 00:39:32,885
a lot of this stuff that it's like,

1202
00:39:33,824 --> 00:39:35,664
you you wanna know because you wanna know

1203
00:39:35,664 --> 00:39:36,945
what's out there and you wanna know where

1204
00:39:36,945 --> 00:39:38,589
the potholes are in life so you can

1205
00:39:38,589 --> 00:39:39,949
avoid them and you you you know, you

1206
00:39:39,949 --> 00:39:42,190
need to get educated on the health industry

1207
00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:44,369
because it impacts you and things like that.

1208
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:46,050
You know? But,

1209
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:48,190
a lot of this stuff, like, I'm just

1210
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:48,690
curious.

1211
00:39:49,469 --> 00:39:50,750
Why do I wanna know? I just wanna

1212
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:52,094
know how it all works, man. I don't

1213
00:39:52,094 --> 00:39:53,695
know. I don't have any sort of, like,

1214
00:39:53,695 --> 00:39:55,695
idea that I'm gonna fix it all. And

1215
00:39:55,695 --> 00:39:56,894
so I I've I've

1216
00:39:57,215 --> 00:39:59,215
in some respects, I think that sort of

1217
00:39:59,215 --> 00:40:01,375
helped to be a little bit detached and

1218
00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:03,375
not be, like, so associated with one team

1219
00:40:03,375 --> 00:40:04,829
or the other. Because if you do that,

1220
00:40:04,829 --> 00:40:07,869
you'll be constantly disappointed in in the behavior

1221
00:40:07,869 --> 00:40:09,390
of your group. You know, your group will

1222
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:11,150
let you down over and over again. But

1223
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:12,130
if you can somehow

1224
00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:14,450
remove yourself and I've had to do this

1225
00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:17,010
in my language as well

1226
00:40:17,309 --> 00:40:19,875
when I talk about what we're doing in

1227
00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:21,155
The Middle East. I have to go, no.

1228
00:40:21,155 --> 00:40:23,235
No. No. No. I'm not doing any of

1229
00:40:23,235 --> 00:40:25,155
this. I have to reframe that. So so

1230
00:40:25,155 --> 00:40:27,335
part of it is, like, even allowing

1231
00:40:28,675 --> 00:40:30,755
myself to get retrained on the language so

1232
00:40:30,755 --> 00:40:33,155
that I'm not enabling them. I'm not including

1233
00:40:33,155 --> 00:40:35,210
myself in their war crimes

1234
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:36,329
just because

1235
00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:38,630
I was born here. I don't have to

1236
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:40,090
sign on to all their insanity.

1237
00:40:40,469 --> 00:40:41,909
And we all fall in that too. We

1238
00:40:41,909 --> 00:40:43,190
all it's it's it's kind of, you know,

1239
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:44,789
it's it's just a language thing. It's very

1240
00:40:44,789 --> 00:40:46,230
simple. You know? And, you know, but but

1241
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:47,565
you're right. I mean, that that I even

1242
00:40:47,565 --> 00:40:49,724
with that, how aggressively I make that point,

1243
00:40:49,724 --> 00:40:51,744
I still often go, you know, like,

1244
00:40:52,364 --> 00:40:54,364
basically end up conflating the government and the

1245
00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:56,125
American people. You know? It's very important to

1246
00:40:56,125 --> 00:40:57,724
be, like, the government do this. We did

1247
00:40:57,724 --> 00:40:59,324
not the country did not do this. The

1248
00:40:59,324 --> 00:41:01,324
government did that. You know? Very very important

1249
00:41:01,324 --> 00:41:03,550
difference there. But let let's talk about some

1250
00:41:03,550 --> 00:41:05,230
of this two party like, there's a couple

1251
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:06,750
of things I wanna get into to to,

1252
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:08,510
like, the latter half of this is let's

1253
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:10,349
talk about the kind of well, I'll I'll

1254
00:41:10,429 --> 00:41:12,190
we'll start with a point they're making about

1255
00:41:12,190 --> 00:41:13,949
the no kings rally, but let's just talk

1256
00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:14,769
about the,

1257
00:41:15,394 --> 00:41:16,855
you know, left wing terror,

1258
00:41:17,315 --> 00:41:19,394
two party illusion, the weird kind of building

1259
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,714
alarming divide about Antifa and, like, how you

1260
00:41:21,714 --> 00:41:22,835
know? And I think neither of us I

1261
00:41:22,835 --> 00:41:23,795
don't want you to speak to this, but

1262
00:41:23,795 --> 00:41:25,074
neither of us, I would argue, are of

1263
00:41:25,074 --> 00:41:26,675
the mind that, you know like, there is

1264
00:41:26,675 --> 00:41:28,914
a level of Antifa organization. You can't deny

1265
00:41:28,914 --> 00:41:30,619
that. And whether there are groups that are

1266
00:41:30,619 --> 00:41:32,380
just doing these things that I wouldn't argue

1267
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,140
a part of some massive funded thing. There's

1268
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:34,640
also

1269
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:37,820
organized elements of of political movement that aren't

1270
00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:40,140
necessarily terrorism, whether or not they're being funded

1271
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:41,994
by billionaires or not. It's a very, very

1272
00:41:41,994 --> 00:41:43,675
alarming thing that they're doing right now, and

1273
00:41:43,675 --> 00:41:46,094
it benefits the government over all Americans.

1274
00:41:46,474 --> 00:41:48,235
But also the overlap with that around, you

1275
00:41:48,235 --> 00:41:49,375
know, lacking accountability

1276
00:41:49,755 --> 00:41:51,275
and then how that kinda ties in. I

1277
00:41:51,275 --> 00:41:52,715
wanna touch on at least the end about

1278
00:41:52,715 --> 00:41:55,434
Israel and the the the the weirdness around

1279
00:41:55,434 --> 00:41:56,940
how all this seems to connect. But let's

1280
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:59,196
I'll bring this up. This is what I

1281
00:41:59,196 --> 00:42:01,703
was, looking at. I just had just kind

1282
00:42:01,703 --> 00:42:03,709
of set my mind. Ted Cruz says, this

1283
00:42:03,709 --> 00:42:05,965
is today or yesterday. Excuse me. There's considerable

1284
00:42:05,965 --> 00:42:07,971
evidence that George Soros and his networks are

1285
00:42:07,971 --> 00:42:09,885
funding the no kings rallies. Probably.

1286
00:42:10,265 --> 00:42:11,785
I I sure as hell would like to

1287
00:42:11,785 --> 00:42:13,385
see that evidence that they love to say

1288
00:42:13,385 --> 00:42:15,085
and never seem to be able to verify.

1289
00:42:15,385 --> 00:42:16,985
But here's the interesting thing to start on,

1290
00:42:16,985 --> 00:42:18,265
and then you take it wherever you want,

1291
00:42:18,265 --> 00:42:20,744
is that, you know, would it be well,

1292
00:42:20,744 --> 00:42:23,244
it's not illegal for anyone, including a billionaire,

1293
00:42:23,305 --> 00:42:24,605
to fund political action.

1294
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:27,289
You know, that's just simply the reality. But

1295
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:29,190
when does it become terrorism, and have they

1296
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:30,789
made this line? And, like, you know, like,

1297
00:42:30,789 --> 00:42:32,390
I think I well, I would clearly argue

1298
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:34,070
that George Searls is a problem when it

1299
00:42:34,070 --> 00:42:35,190
comes to the way these things work, just

1300
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:36,869
like I think Elon Musk, in the same

1301
00:42:36,869 --> 00:42:38,150
exact way on the other side of the

1302
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:40,484
conversation or many others like that, can be

1303
00:42:40,484 --> 00:42:42,324
manipulative and to the point where it becomes

1304
00:42:42,324 --> 00:42:44,244
illegal. But the way it's being used right

1305
00:42:44,244 --> 00:42:46,244
now, especially without proving it, I just think

1306
00:42:46,244 --> 00:42:47,605
it's a trap. And I think that's where

1307
00:42:47,605 --> 00:42:48,724
it's going. So what do you think about

1308
00:42:48,724 --> 00:42:49,384
all this?

1309
00:42:50,804 --> 00:42:52,585
Well, I think that

1310
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:56,190
we're in some dangerous territory here with the

1311
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:58,050
Antifa side of things because

1312
00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:59,489
there is a temptation

1313
00:43:00,110 --> 00:43:03,410
to wanna say that's a domestic terrorist organization.

1314
00:43:04,349 --> 00:43:06,750
But when you because, of course, they are.

1315
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,284
Right? But Well, it can. Yeah. When you

1316
00:43:09,284 --> 00:43:10,105
do that,

1317
00:43:10,964 --> 00:43:13,764
you then now you've made them that's a

1318
00:43:13,764 --> 00:43:16,644
legal designation. They're now a domestic terrorist operating

1319
00:43:16,644 --> 00:43:18,324
in the homeland on the battlefield, and so

1320
00:43:18,324 --> 00:43:20,244
they can get black bagged and taken away.

1321
00:43:20,244 --> 00:43:22,804
And you go, yay. We got Antifa off

1322
00:43:22,804 --> 00:43:23,385
the street.

1323
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:24,250
And

1324
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:27,349
then the election comes and Gavin Newsom becomes

1325
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:27,849
president,

1326
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:30,230
and then that power is normalized and in

1327
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:31,449
the hands of that lunatic

1328
00:43:31,909 --> 00:43:33,510
who, by the way, is no better than

1329
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:35,349
Donald Trump, of course, just a different flavor

1330
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:37,825
of insanity. Right. But then they will weaponize

1331
00:43:37,825 --> 00:43:39,105
that and they go, oh, look at the

1332
00:43:39,105 --> 00:43:41,925
Proud Boys. They're all domestic terrorist organization

1333
00:43:42,385 --> 00:43:44,465
operating in the homeland on the battlefield. And

1334
00:43:44,465 --> 00:43:46,065
so they get rounded up and taken away.

1335
00:43:46,065 --> 00:43:47,125
And so anything

1336
00:43:47,985 --> 00:43:50,305
that this is the important part I want

1337
00:43:50,305 --> 00:43:51,045
the the

1338
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:54,300
the right side, the conservative side to remember

1339
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:56,380
is that any of these powers that you

1340
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:58,619
grant to your guy will be given to

1341
00:43:58,619 --> 00:44:01,019
the other guy eventually and used against you.

1342
00:44:01,019 --> 00:44:03,659
So just be very careful about what you're

1343
00:44:03,659 --> 00:44:05,839
supportive of when it comes to this because,

1344
00:44:06,065 --> 00:44:07,684
you know, it's Antifa today.

1345
00:44:08,065 --> 00:44:09,765
Right? But it's you guys tomorrow.

1346
00:44:10,065 --> 00:44:11,525
And and if you remember

1347
00:44:11,985 --> 00:44:13,265
back in 2015,

1348
00:44:13,265 --> 00:44:16,625
2016, the Jade Helm simulation exercise, one of

1349
00:44:16,625 --> 00:44:18,085
the things that they were simulating

1350
00:44:18,469 --> 00:44:21,109
was they were looking for enemy combatants, domestic

1351
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:23,529
terrorists. And what were they looking for specific

1352
00:44:23,909 --> 00:44:24,409
specifically,

1353
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:25,609
constitutionalist

1354
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:28,170
was what the guy was talking about.

1355
00:44:28,469 --> 00:44:30,869
So you can just envision how this would

1356
00:44:30,869 --> 00:44:33,244
be used. And and that unfortunately is the

1357
00:44:33,244 --> 00:44:34,925
problem that, like, a lot of these people

1358
00:44:34,925 --> 00:44:36,684
get to is they can't think just I

1359
00:44:36,684 --> 00:44:38,364
don't need you to think 10 steps ahead.

1360
00:44:38,364 --> 00:44:40,765
Just think one step ahead. Just just one

1361
00:44:40,765 --> 00:44:43,405
more. Mhmm. The the the power that is

1362
00:44:43,405 --> 00:44:44,625
granted to your

1363
00:44:44,949 --> 00:44:45,449
favorite

1364
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:47,929
politician will be given to your enemy

1365
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:51,289
in four years or eight years or whatever.

1366
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:54,070
And it will most definitely be used against

1367
00:44:54,070 --> 00:44:55,530
you, and it will be worse,

1368
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:57,670
you know, because then they will be coming

1369
00:44:57,670 --> 00:45:00,255
for revenge. That's what happened now, it seems.

1370
00:45:00,494 --> 00:45:01,934
Right? It's it's like a never it's an

1371
00:45:01,934 --> 00:45:03,934
always continuing tit for tat kind of escalation

1372
00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:05,375
between but, you know, I don't know if

1373
00:45:05,375 --> 00:45:07,614
I think that the individual parties are like,

1374
00:45:07,614 --> 00:45:08,815
I'm of the mind that most of them

1375
00:45:08,815 --> 00:45:10,335
are very aware of the of the lack

1376
00:45:10,335 --> 00:45:12,574
of real division. But my my thing is

1377
00:45:12,574 --> 00:45:14,470
that I mean, that is always the most

1378
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:15,829
important thing to start with is that if

1379
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:17,829
look. Even if you think everything they're doing

1380
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:19,910
is right, it's it's going to end up.

1381
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:21,030
And if you think that's a problem, that

1382
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:22,390
the other side will use it back, well,

1383
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:23,670
then that should show you that what you're

1384
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:25,670
doing is wrong. Simple. Right? Just really know

1385
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:27,269
it's wrong if it's wrong. It's not only

1386
00:45:27,269 --> 00:45:29,154
right or it's not, you know, the idea

1387
00:45:29,154 --> 00:45:30,275
is that they frame it as, well, they

1388
00:45:30,275 --> 00:45:31,875
are the bad the good guy fighting the

1389
00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:33,474
bad guy, so it's okay. The other side

1390
00:45:33,474 --> 00:45:34,914
is the other way around. So even though

1391
00:45:34,914 --> 00:45:36,355
in principle, it's the same, it's that's just

1392
00:45:36,434 --> 00:45:38,355
it's a there's no logic to it. But

1393
00:45:38,355 --> 00:45:40,114
the other the other side will frame them

1394
00:45:40,114 --> 00:45:41,315
as the good guys and you hit the

1395
00:45:41,315 --> 00:45:42,914
bad guys. So if you eat Right. But

1396
00:45:42,994 --> 00:45:45,769
so it'll all come back on you and

1397
00:45:45,769 --> 00:45:47,530
and that is the state that's what the

1398
00:45:47,530 --> 00:45:48,750
state does and the state

1399
00:45:49,289 --> 00:45:51,929
loves this. They have a monopoly on violence.

1400
00:45:51,929 --> 00:45:52,909
They love violence.

1401
00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:55,849
They love Antifa. Don't get don't, you know,

1402
00:45:55,849 --> 00:45:58,250
kid yourself that they're like, oh, this is

1403
00:45:58,250 --> 00:45:58,750
terrible.

1404
00:45:59,050 --> 00:46:01,505
This is this gets things done. These are

1405
00:46:01,505 --> 00:46:03,985
color revolutions. We've been doing this in Europe

1406
00:46:03,985 --> 00:46:07,184
for fifty years. I mean, it's extremely effective.

1407
00:46:07,184 --> 00:46:08,465
You put you put a little bit of

1408
00:46:08,465 --> 00:46:11,025
money behind some some events. I just I

1409
00:46:11,184 --> 00:46:12,085
to me though,

1410
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,660
like the idea, the no kings rally,

1411
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,320
I from a branding messaging standpoint, I think,

1412
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,940
well, you know, if there was a king,

1413
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:24,200
would he allow these protests? Probably not. Right?

1414
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,640
If you actually if we had an actual

1415
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,454
king, he'd stomp these protests out. So the

1416
00:46:27,454 --> 00:46:29,295
fact that you're having a protest called no

1417
00:46:29,295 --> 00:46:30,835
kings, sort of by itself,

1418
00:46:31,695 --> 00:46:33,855
sort of an admission that there aren't really

1419
00:46:33,855 --> 00:46:35,695
actually kings Yeah. Because you could be able

1420
00:46:35,695 --> 00:46:37,135
to have a protest. You could make the

1421
00:46:37,135 --> 00:46:38,574
argument that that's the point, is that we're

1422
00:46:38,574 --> 00:46:40,414
protesting to there shouldn't be kings and that's

1423
00:46:40,414 --> 00:46:42,140
where going. We both agree that that's where

1424
00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:44,440
the power continues to consolidate. But let's be

1425
00:46:44,739 --> 00:46:46,179
clear. In no way am I saying that

1426
00:46:46,179 --> 00:46:47,860
I think these I mean, look. That's it's

1427
00:46:47,860 --> 00:46:50,099
politically manipul it's politically motivated. There's no way

1428
00:46:50,099 --> 00:46:52,500
around it. It's about politics. What's funny is

1429
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:53,699
we've gotten to a point to where now

1430
00:46:53,699 --> 00:46:56,519
being politically motivated is somehow inherently of, like,

1431
00:46:56,775 --> 00:46:57,594
underlying criminality.

1432
00:46:57,974 --> 00:46:59,414
Like, it can't be for sure. But the

1433
00:46:59,414 --> 00:47:01,335
reality is all they're really doing from both

1434
00:47:01,335 --> 00:47:03,355
sides is framing any kind of political momentum

1435
00:47:03,574 --> 00:47:06,875
as somehow being a a terrorist underlying problem.

1436
00:47:06,934 --> 00:47:09,255
That applies both ways, guys, like Charlie was

1437
00:47:09,255 --> 00:47:11,010
saying in the beginning. Like, I'm not gonna

1438
00:47:11,010 --> 00:47:13,090
argue that you like, you can clearly see

1439
00:47:13,170 --> 00:47:14,449
like, let's just make it again a broad

1440
00:47:14,449 --> 00:47:17,090
point. Like, a Soros or just another faceless

1441
00:47:17,090 --> 00:47:19,010
billionaire that decides to come in and spend

1442
00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:21,170
money to fund a group and to get

1443
00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:23,170
new signs and whatever else. Is that a

1444
00:47:23,170 --> 00:47:25,715
crime? It's not a crime. Period. Right? It

1445
00:47:25,715 --> 00:47:28,114
can amount to more of a criminal activity

1446
00:47:28,114 --> 00:47:30,275
when you do something beyond that, you know,

1447
00:47:30,275 --> 00:47:32,114
like, especially when it comes to more manipulative

1448
00:47:32,114 --> 00:47:34,275
actions, but just being able to fund that

1449
00:47:34,275 --> 00:47:35,954
is not a crime. So it's interesting because

1450
00:47:35,954 --> 00:47:38,070
we see it happen both ways. But so

1451
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:40,309
I understand the way that's manipulated, though. I

1452
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:42,150
know as we can see what what one

1453
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:44,390
more step back, actually. What we're talking about

1454
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:46,329
here with from their side is the conflation

1455
00:47:46,469 --> 00:47:49,269
of people protesting no matter where funded from

1456
00:47:49,269 --> 00:47:52,090
and how highly funded and organized with Antifa

1457
00:47:52,474 --> 00:47:55,034
as a terrorist organization committing violence. You see

1458
00:47:55,034 --> 00:47:56,795
that that's the illusion right there they're creating

1459
00:47:56,795 --> 00:47:58,715
is they're going, well, now, anytime we can

1460
00:47:58,715 --> 00:48:00,875
prove, let's say, Soros funded something, of course,

1461
00:48:00,875 --> 00:48:02,394
only going from one side, as we all

1462
00:48:02,394 --> 00:48:04,155
know if you're paying attention, it's both sides

1463
00:48:04,155 --> 00:48:05,699
of the paradigm do this, that then you

1464
00:48:05,699 --> 00:48:07,460
say that that is now the violence and

1465
00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:09,300
we can shut down their protests. I just

1466
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:10,579
think it's so clear to me how this

1467
00:48:10,579 --> 00:48:12,440
is being manipulated. Now I think, additionally,

1468
00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:14,900
we know and we've talked about that the

1469
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:15,400
FBI

1470
00:48:16,019 --> 00:48:17,904
will front us these things. Like, so so

1471
00:48:17,904 --> 00:48:19,424
what's crazy is that about they're trying to

1472
00:48:19,424 --> 00:48:21,904
go after using this people just on the

1473
00:48:21,904 --> 00:48:23,824
left. That's what's so crazy to me. And

1474
00:48:23,824 --> 00:48:25,824
I'm not even going after politicians, just random

1475
00:48:25,824 --> 00:48:27,744
people out there protesting, some of which are

1476
00:48:27,744 --> 00:48:29,599
just people who believe what they're doing. We

1477
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:30,719
know that is a part of this, just

1478
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,239
like it happens on both sides. And so

1479
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,000
what you're doing is creating this error where

1480
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,000
they are if they're wearing black and have

1481
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,599
a mask on, let's say, or just look

1482
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,440
like a lefty, therefore, now it's some kind

1483
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,360
of terrorism. And we all and we Patriot

1484
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,719
front is the same thing on both sides

1485
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,114
of it. But the other thing is, like

1486
00:48:44,114 --> 00:48:45,335
you mentioned, that MAGA

1487
00:48:45,635 --> 00:48:47,235
this to your point in the beginning point,

1488
00:48:47,235 --> 00:48:48,835
this is where it's swinging back around. There

1489
00:48:48,835 --> 00:48:50,675
are people right now going, just wait until

1490
00:48:50,675 --> 00:48:52,515
we declare MAGA a terrorist organization. Some pretty

1491
00:48:52,515 --> 00:48:54,914
prominent accounts, by the way. What happens then?

1492
00:48:54,914 --> 00:48:56,515
Well, then they're gonna make the same argument

1493
00:48:56,515 --> 00:48:57,795
like we said that now if if you're

1494
00:48:57,795 --> 00:48:59,849
MAGA, you're part of an organized terrorist network.

1495
00:48:59,849 --> 00:49:01,049
And they're gonna go, we know it, and

1496
00:49:01,049 --> 00:49:02,170
we're the ones doing it right. And, you

1497
00:49:02,170 --> 00:49:03,529
know, and all you do is build both

1498
00:49:03,529 --> 00:49:04,509
sides of that problem.

1499
00:49:04,809 --> 00:49:06,329
But I think the real core here is

1500
00:49:06,329 --> 00:49:08,089
how they're using this even if it's based

1501
00:49:08,089 --> 00:49:09,769
on truth. In many cases, it can be,

1502
00:49:09,769 --> 00:49:11,869
and it has been about organized manipulation

1503
00:49:12,250 --> 00:49:15,285
to the case of violence or political subversion.

1504
00:49:15,985 --> 00:49:17,425
The point is that now they're framing it

1505
00:49:17,425 --> 00:49:19,425
as literally everything that happens and whether they

1506
00:49:19,425 --> 00:49:21,184
can even prove that Soros Fund did it,

1507
00:49:21,184 --> 00:49:23,585
whether they can even prove that individual protests

1508
00:49:23,585 --> 00:49:25,425
are part of that organized network to begin

1509
00:49:25,425 --> 00:49:28,070
with or just people protesting who call themselves

1510
00:49:28,070 --> 00:49:29,910
antifascist. You know what I'm saying? It's so

1511
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:32,390
clearly lacking of the principle. But I know

1512
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:33,910
I get pushback from people who just wanna

1513
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:35,269
go, but, Ryan, we know the left x,

1514
00:49:35,269 --> 00:49:37,269
y, and z. You can't fight that. You

1515
00:49:37,269 --> 00:49:38,949
know? People in my audience feel that way.

1516
00:49:38,949 --> 00:49:41,094
I it's I just think it's so obvious

1517
00:49:41,094 --> 00:49:43,306
how this is being played against us, and

1518
00:49:43,306 --> 00:49:45,518
it's only gonna amount to a less rights

1519
00:49:45,518 --> 00:49:48,006
and more manipulation. You know? Well, I if

1520
00:49:48,006 --> 00:49:50,219
the Antifa had history classes, they would learn

1521
00:49:50,219 --> 00:49:52,431
about the brown shirts, and the brown shirts

1522
00:49:52,431 --> 00:49:55,289
had ended very poorly for them as the

1523
00:49:55,289 --> 00:49:58,650
SS was, grown as a parallel organization and

1524
00:49:58,650 --> 00:50:00,489
then eventually turned on the brown shirts and

1525
00:50:00,489 --> 00:50:02,670
wiped them out. That is, of course, what,

1526
00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:06,730
Antifa's role is. They're the the group that

1527
00:50:06,730 --> 00:50:09,875
comes in and starts the chaos to to

1528
00:50:09,875 --> 00:50:12,054
create the pretext for the revolution.

1529
00:50:12,434 --> 00:50:14,194
Even that, like, in, like, the FBI overlap

1530
00:50:14,194 --> 00:50:14,694
sense?

1531
00:50:15,714 --> 00:50:18,135
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come in and and and

1532
00:50:18,275 --> 00:50:19,894
and be the chaos agents.

1533
00:50:20,275 --> 00:50:20,934
But then

1534
00:50:21,394 --> 00:50:23,734
after you've done the after you've

1535
00:50:24,179 --> 00:50:25,079
had the revolution,

1536
00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:28,280
those guys become a liability, not an asset.

1537
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,900
Right. They go up against the wall as

1538
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,760
Bezhanov says in in their shot

1539
00:50:33,059 --> 00:50:35,619
because that's their only function is to is

1540
00:50:35,619 --> 00:50:38,015
to create chaos early on so that they

1541
00:50:38,015 --> 00:50:40,575
create the justification for his rise to power.

1542
00:50:40,575 --> 00:50:42,974
But once you're empowered, we don't need you.

1543
00:50:42,974 --> 00:50:44,815
You're going to be a big problem because

1544
00:50:44,815 --> 00:50:47,454
you're clearly easily whipped up into a frenzy,

1545
00:50:47,454 --> 00:50:48,735
so we'll just get rid of all those

1546
00:50:48,735 --> 00:50:51,295
people. That's Antifa. They don't understand their history,

1547
00:50:51,295 --> 00:50:52,735
so they don't know where this is gonna

1548
00:50:52,735 --> 00:50:53,719
go. And

1549
00:50:54,820 --> 00:50:58,019
and listen, there is a genuine reason for

1550
00:50:58,019 --> 00:51:00,420
people to be frustrated. That's the part about

1551
00:51:00,420 --> 00:51:02,659
this that makes it all kind of, in

1552
00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:03,320
a way,

1553
00:51:03,940 --> 00:51:06,280
legitimate because you the because or,

1554
00:51:06,820 --> 00:51:09,085
you know, it's like if everything was fine

1555
00:51:09,864 --> 00:51:12,184
and people were protesting, it would stand out

1556
00:51:12,184 --> 00:51:13,784
like a sore thumb. You would think, this

1557
00:51:13,784 --> 00:51:15,545
is weird. Things are great. Why are you

1558
00:51:15,545 --> 00:51:17,324
guys out here? This feels very artificial.

1559
00:51:17,704 --> 00:51:20,530
But because things are bad and because people

1560
00:51:20,530 --> 00:51:21,190
are genuinely

1561
00:51:21,889 --> 00:51:22,389
frustrated

1562
00:51:22,690 --> 00:51:25,650
and for a variety of reasons, financially, socially,

1563
00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:27,809
whatever, they're either for the migrants or against

1564
00:51:27,809 --> 00:51:30,049
them, whatever. They're they're angry about everything and

1565
00:51:30,049 --> 00:51:31,269
of course, they've been weaponized.

1566
00:51:31,809 --> 00:51:32,295
Like,

1567
00:51:32,775 --> 00:51:33,275
now

1568
00:51:33,574 --> 00:51:36,234
is the time that an Antifa

1569
00:51:36,934 --> 00:51:39,755
backed, you know, Soros backed group like this

1570
00:51:39,815 --> 00:51:42,474
could easily pull something off because

1571
00:51:43,335 --> 00:51:44,315
there's already

1572
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:46,530
sort of a underlying

1573
00:51:47,069 --> 00:51:48,849
atmosphere of revolution,

1574
00:51:49,150 --> 00:51:50,510
sort of. You know? Like, there's a lot

1575
00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:51,549
of people that are that are that are

1576
00:51:51,549 --> 00:51:53,069
kind and now whether they'll do anything about

1577
00:51:53,069 --> 00:51:54,269
it. I don't know. I mean, I think

1578
00:51:54,269 --> 00:51:56,109
there were so many people that neutered, but

1579
00:51:56,109 --> 00:51:58,184
there's a frustration. And it's on both sides

1580
00:51:58,184 --> 00:51:59,864
too. Yeah. But don't you see the problem

1581
00:51:59,864 --> 00:52:01,785
with the like, okay. So I think we'd

1582
00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:04,105
agree the principle is the point. Right? So

1583
00:52:04,105 --> 00:52:05,945
if somebody breaks the law, present the evidence,

1584
00:52:05,945 --> 00:52:07,545
target them with a crime. Pretty I think

1585
00:52:07,545 --> 00:52:09,545
it's very simple. Like, the game of going,

1586
00:52:09,545 --> 00:52:11,799
you're a domestic terror. It's it's the point

1587
00:52:11,799 --> 00:52:13,799
is if there's criminal activity, they don't need

1588
00:52:13,799 --> 00:52:16,539
some larger app or some way to broaden

1589
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:18,839
out the context and be like, well, you're

1590
00:52:18,839 --> 00:52:20,519
next to that person and you chanted the

1591
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:22,219
right thing, so you're part of the network.

1592
00:52:22,279 --> 00:52:24,359
You know, it's it's alarming to see how

1593
00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:26,279
this is being played. I'm not disagreeing with

1594
00:52:26,279 --> 00:52:28,304
anybody here and you, anybody in the chat

1595
00:52:28,304 --> 00:52:29,284
about the reality

1596
00:52:29,585 --> 00:52:31,684
of how this can be used and, subversively,

1597
00:52:31,824 --> 00:52:33,984
to manipulate this country. The point is when

1598
00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:35,505
we allow them to point to the thing

1599
00:52:35,505 --> 00:52:37,984
they're in part creating, like you're saying, to

1600
00:52:37,984 --> 00:52:40,465
rationalize the next steps, we're digging our own

1601
00:52:40,465 --> 00:52:42,230
grave. Right? And I think we just need

1602
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:43,510
to be very clear about the fact that

1603
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:45,030
you can have people out there and they

1604
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:46,469
break a window, they come and even if

1605
00:52:46,469 --> 00:52:48,150
you if you can prove, and I mean,

1606
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:50,550
with evidence, not in saying it online, that

1607
00:52:50,550 --> 00:52:51,690
there is a network

1608
00:52:52,070 --> 00:52:54,230
organized effort. They're online going, we got this

1609
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:55,670
funding. Let's go out and break all these

1610
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:57,215
windows, or the plan was to plant a

1611
00:52:57,215 --> 00:52:59,934
bond, then present the evidence and charge them.

1612
00:52:59,934 --> 00:53:02,515
But outside of that, it becomes this abstract

1613
00:53:02,574 --> 00:53:04,574
catchall argument where they can apply it to

1614
00:53:04,574 --> 00:53:05,635
literally anybody

1615
00:53:06,015 --> 00:53:07,695
just like they did against the right when

1616
00:53:07,695 --> 00:53:09,135
it was the other way around. You know?

1617
00:53:09,135 --> 00:53:10,750
And and we were of the mind that

1618
00:53:10,750 --> 00:53:12,029
everybody in a red hat was a terrorist

1619
00:53:12,029 --> 00:53:13,789
because it's a stupid thing to say. Just

1620
00:53:13,789 --> 00:53:15,230
like not everyone in a black shirt and

1621
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:16,989
a mask is a terrorist or any of

1622
00:53:16,989 --> 00:53:18,509
them for that matter. You know? It just

1623
00:53:18,509 --> 00:53:20,670
seems so easy to recognize how this will

1624
00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:22,269
be used against us. And so when we

1625
00:53:22,269 --> 00:53:23,844
frame it as, like, you know, that they

1626
00:53:23,844 --> 00:53:25,045
are this or they are that, it's the

1627
00:53:25,045 --> 00:53:26,405
same as we're talking about as saying the

1628
00:53:26,405 --> 00:53:28,005
government or we. You know, it's like the

1629
00:53:28,005 --> 00:53:29,605
reality is there are people that are doing

1630
00:53:29,605 --> 00:53:31,125
things, and we need to prove that and

1631
00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:33,525
charge them with a crime. Everything else is

1632
00:53:33,525 --> 00:53:36,265
the government taking advantage, in my opinion. American

1633
00:53:36,325 --> 00:53:36,985
Al Qaeda.

1634
00:53:37,460 --> 00:53:39,940
Just this put together this database that have

1635
00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:41,880
pop up agitators that just

1636
00:53:42,179 --> 00:53:44,519
are some of them. Some of them are

1637
00:53:44,579 --> 00:53:46,500
on the government payroll. Some of them are

1638
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:48,900
there for the party. Unfortunately, we're now in

1639
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,679
a digital era where

1640
00:53:51,264 --> 00:53:53,985
regardless of what your intentions or how you

1641
00:53:53,985 --> 00:53:55,364
feel about an event,

1642
00:53:55,985 --> 00:53:58,965
if you're there, if you're just actually there,

1643
00:53:59,744 --> 00:54:02,005
your signal is being picked up by the

1644
00:54:02,385 --> 00:54:04,804
the flock cameras and the It's really

1645
00:54:05,319 --> 00:54:08,199
I'm choosing against Republicans. Yeah. You know, you're

1646
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:10,359
get yeah. You're you're you're getting you're getting

1647
00:54:10,359 --> 00:54:12,280
all of this or you're you're you go

1648
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:12,940
to the

1649
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,719
the Charlie Kirk funeral and all your info

1650
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,719
is picked up by Israel. Or you go

1651
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,299
to the Christian churches and all that's some

1652
00:54:20,514 --> 00:54:22,275
partnership deal where all your cell phone info

1653
00:54:22,275 --> 00:54:24,034
is being tracked by. You know, all so

1654
00:54:24,034 --> 00:54:25,894
we're in this weird data collection where,

1655
00:54:26,434 --> 00:54:27,734
are you a part of Antifa?

1656
00:54:28,034 --> 00:54:28,534
No.

1657
00:54:28,835 --> 00:54:30,835
Well, how do you prove that you were

1658
00:54:30,835 --> 00:54:32,755
at the event? It's like, we're just gonna

1659
00:54:32,755 --> 00:54:34,594
ping your cell phone and and then that

1660
00:54:34,594 --> 00:54:37,010
gets into some weird dystopian

1661
00:54:37,630 --> 00:54:40,130
tech fantasy for these people where they start

1662
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:41,010
making associations

1663
00:54:41,309 --> 00:54:42,910
based on where you are. And, of course,

1664
00:54:42,910 --> 00:54:45,630
that'll be very wildly inaccurate, of course, but

1665
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:47,230
I think that might even be part of

1666
00:54:47,230 --> 00:54:49,775
the equation. But but but to say, well,

1667
00:54:49,775 --> 00:54:51,694
you were there. You know? Like, we we

1668
00:54:51,694 --> 00:54:54,094
deterred the precrime. You know? Maybe we've seen

1669
00:54:54,094 --> 00:54:57,214
the precrime coming. Just like January 6. Yeah.

1670
00:54:57,214 --> 00:54:58,894
You know? It's it's all the same game.

1671
00:54:58,894 --> 00:55:00,734
You know? That's why I just really need

1672
00:55:00,734 --> 00:55:02,960
conservatives of all this recognize how, you know,

1673
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,400
what a lot of them are doing, and

1674
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,779
I get the the feeling

1675
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:08,159
of of, you know, one, revenge, like you

1676
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:10,159
were just saying, but or of going after

1677
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:12,719
what appears to be obviously a manipulative problem.

1678
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,359
But don't take the bait. Right? Don't turn

1679
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,065
around and do the same thing where where

1680
00:55:17,065 --> 00:55:19,625
you start subjectively arguing that anybody there you

1681
00:55:19,625 --> 00:55:21,784
know, look. Being part of whatever they decide

1682
00:55:21,784 --> 00:55:23,465
to call terrorist group, you know, it's it's

1683
00:55:23,465 --> 00:55:24,824
it's it's this look. If they turn around

1684
00:55:24,824 --> 00:55:26,744
and declare MAG a terrorist group, the the

1685
00:55:26,744 --> 00:55:27,804
argument legally

1686
00:55:28,105 --> 00:55:29,885
would be that you are now a terrorist

1687
00:55:29,945 --> 00:55:32,159
because you are associated with that, not because

1688
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:34,559
you ever committed a crime. It's arbitrary. It's

1689
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,559
exactly what the government can do about anything,

1690
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:38,319
like they've done about groups that they've literally

1691
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:40,400
funded and used against us throughout the world.

1692
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,079
So I just wanna stress again that what

1693
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:43,699
they're doing with this is subjective,

1694
00:55:44,015 --> 00:55:45,614
not to say that there's not provable evidence,

1695
00:55:45,614 --> 00:55:47,135
but if they had that, they should present

1696
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:49,695
that and charge people individually with crimes. They're

1697
00:55:49,695 --> 00:55:52,175
laying out a broad argument and then just

1698
00:55:52,175 --> 00:55:54,835
going after people, by the way, who interestingly

1699
00:55:54,974 --> 00:55:56,574
happened to be the same group that overlaps

1700
00:55:56,574 --> 00:55:58,889
with people protesting against Israel for Palestine. What

1701
00:55:58,889 --> 00:56:01,449
a coincidence. As Israel floods us with this

1702
00:56:01,449 --> 00:56:03,210
information, it floods us with I mean, it's

1703
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:03,710
undeniable.

1704
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:05,369
You know, I I don't know. I'm of

1705
00:56:05,369 --> 00:56:06,969
the mind that that is a harder point

1706
00:56:06,969 --> 00:56:08,909
right there for conservatives to identify

1707
00:56:09,289 --> 00:56:09,789
because

1708
00:56:10,089 --> 00:56:11,690
even conservatives that see a lot of the

1709
00:56:11,690 --> 00:56:13,545
things we talk about are still, you know,

1710
00:56:13,545 --> 00:56:14,984
maybe of the mind of the left is

1711
00:56:14,984 --> 00:56:16,984
the problem kinda thing. But I just don't

1712
00:56:16,984 --> 00:56:18,464
know how we don't recognize that when most

1713
00:56:18,464 --> 00:56:19,784
of them do see Israel and we could

1714
00:56:19,784 --> 00:56:21,784
recognize the manipulation they're in. You know, the

1715
00:56:21,864 --> 00:56:23,864
how Palantir and ICE is not being used

1716
00:56:23,864 --> 00:56:25,864
just against immigrants or even just against the

1717
00:56:25,864 --> 00:56:27,800
left. You know? It's we're building the cage

1718
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,400
around us. You know? And I I just

1719
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,000
I'd like to believe that more people out

1720
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,840
there can recognize how easy it is to

1721
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
use something like we started with, especially if

1722
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,840
it's built in the truth, like going after

1723
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,599
Antifa. You know? Like, do you think they're

1724
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:40,985
gonna arrest George Soros? I don't. And they're

1725
00:56:40,985 --> 00:56:42,425
gonna say that. You know? So that's my

1726
00:56:42,505 --> 00:56:43,545
that's the kind of the crux of the

1727
00:56:43,545 --> 00:56:45,385
point. If they keep yelling George Soros and

1728
00:56:45,385 --> 00:56:46,985
yet pick up a a random kid with

1729
00:56:46,985 --> 00:56:48,585
purple hair who's not even part of anything

1730
00:56:48,585 --> 00:56:50,184
just wearing a black shirt, you know, that's

1731
00:56:50,184 --> 00:56:52,265
clearly not well, you know, I'll say the

1732
00:56:52,265 --> 00:56:54,425
last thing. You out there listening, if you

1733
00:56:54,425 --> 00:56:55,885
believe I'm wrong, I could be,

1734
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,980
you show me when they get an organized

1735
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:02,079
like, something is charged. Here's our RICO case.

1736
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:04,239
Here's how we can prove the actual organized

1737
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,559
effort, not just individuals they're claiming happen to

1738
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:08,079
be wearing a Palestinian flag. You know? I

1739
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,159
argue you're gonna recognize quickly if you focus

1740
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:11,694
on that that it's never been about what

1741
00:57:11,694 --> 00:57:13,054
they're claiming, just like it wasn't when it

1742
00:57:13,054 --> 00:57:13,875
came to the right.

1743
00:57:15,054 --> 00:57:16,815
Well, they were they're not gonna arrest George

1744
00:57:16,815 --> 00:57:19,534
Soros. He's their partner with USAID and National

1745
00:57:19,534 --> 00:57:22,014
Endowment for Democracy. He's been doing regime change

1746
00:57:22,014 --> 00:57:25,234
operations for them internationally for thirty years.

1747
00:57:25,779 --> 00:57:27,619
He's he's their man or at least since

1748
00:57:27,619 --> 00:57:29,719
the early two thousands. He's he's their man.

1749
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:32,099
Yep. You know? I agree. I agree. He's

1750
00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:34,019
not going to jail, but they'll they'll make

1751
00:57:34,019 --> 00:57:35,779
a spectacle of it because they they know

1752
00:57:35,779 --> 00:57:38,500
how to you know, they they love the

1753
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:39,000
the

1754
00:57:39,454 --> 00:57:41,215
the chaos of it all because in the

1755
00:57:41,215 --> 00:57:42,894
aftermath of that, they can come and crack

1756
00:57:42,894 --> 00:57:45,015
down on everybody and and and not, you

1757
00:57:45,015 --> 00:57:47,054
know so so, yeah, I hope the MAGA

1758
00:57:47,054 --> 00:57:47,554
people

1759
00:57:48,014 --> 00:57:49,534
can see this. It's,

1760
00:57:51,054 --> 00:57:52,195
it's kind of important.

1761
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:55,049
It's kind of important to recognize this. You

1762
00:57:55,049 --> 00:57:57,309
don't wanna walk into any traps. Again,

1763
00:57:57,849 --> 00:58:00,329
like, just a reminder that that what what

1764
00:58:00,329 --> 00:58:01,389
has been done,

1765
00:58:01,929 --> 00:58:02,429
you

1766
00:58:02,889 --> 00:58:05,210
know, you know, where when the government is

1767
00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:06,429
using its force

1768
00:58:07,355 --> 00:58:09,275
to go after the people that you want

1769
00:58:09,275 --> 00:58:10,335
them to go after.

1770
00:58:11,275 --> 00:58:12,494
Right. It's tempting

1771
00:58:12,795 --> 00:58:15,375
if you're it's tempting to be enthusiastic

1772
00:58:15,755 --> 00:58:18,074
about that. But you just you just have

1773
00:58:18,074 --> 00:58:20,414
to understand that this is a they're they're

1774
00:58:21,099 --> 00:58:23,820
a soulless monster, the government, and they will

1775
00:58:23,820 --> 00:58:26,539
turn on you, you cannot reason with them,

1776
00:58:26,539 --> 00:58:28,780
you can't sit them down and explain it

1777
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:31,179
all away, and this is why parents tell

1778
00:58:31,179 --> 00:58:33,339
kids, like early on good parents tell kids

1779
00:58:33,339 --> 00:58:35,715
early on, don't talk to the cops. Right.

1780
00:58:35,715 --> 00:58:37,315
You're not gonna go and explain it and

1781
00:58:37,315 --> 00:58:39,655
make everything better. You're gonna make everything

1782
00:58:40,275 --> 00:58:42,614
just don't do that. And so same thing.

1783
00:58:43,795 --> 00:58:45,795
Don't interact with your government. Don't don't go

1784
00:58:45,795 --> 00:58:47,575
to these don't walk into these traps.

1785
00:58:48,099 --> 00:58:50,420
These are these are obvious the j six.

1786
00:58:50,420 --> 00:58:52,179
You mentioned that. J six, you know, I

1787
00:58:52,179 --> 00:58:54,420
get it. You're angry. There's plenty of reasons

1788
00:58:54,420 --> 00:58:56,019
to be angry. You want your voice to

1789
00:58:56,019 --> 00:58:57,859
be heard and and all of that. And

1790
00:58:57,859 --> 00:58:59,460
and you wanna and you think that in

1791
00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:01,059
a big group, maybe that'll get your point

1792
00:59:01,059 --> 00:59:03,085
across and CNN won't be able to pretend

1793
00:59:03,085 --> 00:59:04,765
like you're not there. I I understand all

1794
00:59:04,765 --> 00:59:06,925
that, but, like, you have to think, like,

1795
00:59:06,925 --> 00:59:09,085
the way they think. Wait. This is all

1796
00:59:09,085 --> 00:59:09,585
intelligence

1797
00:59:09,885 --> 00:59:10,385
driven.

1798
00:59:10,684 --> 00:59:12,605
They're gonna be you're you're they're gonna be

1799
00:59:12,605 --> 00:59:14,684
gathering info on you. They're you're walking into

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00:59:14,684 --> 00:59:15,585
a trap and

1801
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:18,070
whether it's j six or the next one

1802
00:59:18,070 --> 00:59:20,309
that comes because there will be a reason,

1803
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:22,070
and there'll there'll be something that will happen

1804
00:59:22,070 --> 00:59:24,389
as we know that will get everybody whipped

1805
00:59:24,389 --> 00:59:26,010
up into a frenzy demanding

1806
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:28,630
something be done. Just be careful about these

1807
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:31,929
problem reaction solution scenarios where we get into

1808
00:59:32,015 --> 00:59:33,614
where you start shaking your fist at the

1809
00:59:33,614 --> 00:59:34,515
sky demanding

1810
00:59:35,295 --> 00:59:37,454
some solution that you would have never thought

1811
00:59:37,454 --> 00:59:39,215
of years ago, and then you go, how

1812
00:59:39,215 --> 00:59:41,535
did I even get here? Right. You know?

1813
00:59:41,535 --> 00:59:43,614
And it's it you just get walked in

1814
00:59:43,614 --> 00:59:45,269
as David Icke says, the totalitarian

1815
00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:48,450
tiptoe. You just absolutely walked yourself into it.

1816
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:49,490
Right. And,

1817
00:59:49,890 --> 00:59:50,869
but but awareness

1818
00:59:52,289 --> 00:59:55,010
is just a massive key in this the

1819
00:59:55,010 --> 00:59:57,010
whole time. As soon as you you're aware

1820
00:59:57,010 --> 00:59:58,930
that you're being watched or you're aware that

1821
00:59:58,930 --> 01:00:01,295
this is going on, it it changes your

1822
01:00:01,295 --> 01:00:03,135
perception of reality, and it and it puts

1823
01:00:03,135 --> 01:00:04,974
you in a position to to be less

1824
01:00:04,974 --> 01:00:07,454
impacted by this. So so to the extent

1825
01:00:07,454 --> 01:00:09,214
that you can be paying attention and grab

1826
01:00:09,214 --> 01:00:09,954
those people

1827
01:00:10,335 --> 01:00:11,954
near you and say, hey,

1828
01:00:12,619 --> 01:00:13,980
this is what I see. You might wanna

1829
01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:15,260
check it out. You know how it is.

1830
01:00:15,260 --> 01:00:17,820
You can't reach everybody. There's even your some

1831
01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:19,660
of your closest friends, there's just a wall

1832
01:00:19,660 --> 01:00:21,579
there. But for those who who have the

1833
01:00:21,579 --> 01:00:23,260
eyes to see it or the ears to

1834
01:00:23,260 --> 01:00:25,760
hear it, like, we have to get this

1835
01:00:26,224 --> 01:00:28,304
information out to people because it would be

1836
01:00:28,304 --> 01:00:30,965
a damn shame if somebody did something stupid

1837
01:00:31,425 --> 01:00:33,344
because they got whipped up into a frenzy

1838
01:00:33,344 --> 01:00:34,405
over some manufactured

1839
01:00:34,704 --> 01:00:37,025
event that could have very easily they could

1840
01:00:37,025 --> 01:00:39,489
have easily avoided. Yeah. And I argue that's,

1841
01:00:39,489 --> 01:00:40,690
you know, in a large way how these

1842
01:00:40,690 --> 01:00:42,210
things tend to happen. You know, the random

1843
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:43,889
people that do actually get kind of just

1844
01:00:43,889 --> 01:00:47,029
worked up, you know, from through psychological manipulation,

1845
01:00:47,329 --> 01:00:49,670
through for pro war material, through

1846
01:00:49,969 --> 01:00:52,130
antidepressants, and, you know, whatever else happens. And

1847
01:00:52,130 --> 01:00:53,785
I think that it's you you know, there

1848
01:00:53,785 --> 01:00:55,224
are cases where I think these things are

1849
01:00:55,224 --> 01:00:56,905
used like that, but I also agree that

1850
01:00:56,905 --> 01:00:58,184
there are I believe that there are things

1851
01:00:58,184 --> 01:01:00,824
that are organized too. But let's let's finish

1852
01:01:00,824 --> 01:01:01,724
with a few points

1853
01:01:02,344 --> 01:01:03,785
and finish with talking about, you know, with

1854
01:01:03,785 --> 01:01:05,224
the Israel overlap, but I'll include this for

1855
01:01:05,224 --> 01:01:07,704
what we're just saying. This is, random account,

1856
01:01:07,704 --> 01:01:08,204
Jack,

1857
01:01:08,539 --> 01:01:09,420
153,000

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01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:11,820
followers, saying, what what the f? Shocking report

1859
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:14,139
reveals Mexican cartels are teaming up with left

1860
01:01:14,139 --> 01:01:16,460
wing terror networks inside The United States. This

1861
01:01:16,460 --> 01:01:18,400
is this is just a this is, guys,

1862
01:01:18,699 --> 01:01:20,380
play one, two, and three. I don't think

1863
01:01:20,380 --> 01:01:22,859
our government truly knows how to recreate. This

1864
01:01:22,859 --> 01:01:24,755
is just another angle of the same kind

1865
01:01:24,755 --> 01:01:26,434
of tropes they've been using. I'm not for

1866
01:01:26,434 --> 01:01:27,875
all we know, it's real. I'm saying the

1867
01:01:27,875 --> 01:01:30,594
idea is like every other repackaged idea of

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01:01:30,594 --> 01:01:32,515
foreign policy and everything. The government this is

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01:01:32,515 --> 01:01:34,695
the same old style the government always uses.

1870
01:01:34,914 --> 01:01:37,155
They're they're offering massive cash bounties for the

1871
01:01:37,155 --> 01:01:39,650
assassination of top border officials. Now I would

1872
01:01:39,650 --> 01:01:41,010
love to see any kind of evidence that

1873
01:01:41,010 --> 01:01:43,090
can prove this actual break that we can

1874
01:01:43,170 --> 01:01:45,650
the left wing's terror arming you know, working

1875
01:01:45,650 --> 01:01:47,730
with cartels. What I think it probably stems

1876
01:01:47,730 --> 01:01:49,650
back to is the obvious reality that the

1877
01:01:49,650 --> 01:01:51,494
US government has always worked with these cartels,

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01:01:51,655 --> 01:01:52,155
including

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01:01:52,535 --> 01:01:54,394
literally from August.

1880
01:01:54,454 --> 01:01:57,175
The DEA got caught laundering $19,000,000

1881
01:01:57,175 --> 01:01:59,015
of cartel drug money into cash and crypto

1882
01:01:59,015 --> 01:02:00,795
and even helped cover up that it happened.

1883
01:02:01,015 --> 01:02:03,655
Nobody cares about this. You Patel's out there.

1884
01:02:03,655 --> 01:02:05,329
No one's above the law or we're going

1885
01:02:05,329 --> 01:02:07,090
after the drug cartels and they're poison while

1886
01:02:07,090 --> 01:02:09,969
sporting vaccines and ignoring this story. Just it's

1887
01:02:09,969 --> 01:02:12,130
funny. And then on a one quick overlapping

1888
01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:14,050
note, the d h DHS had remember the

1889
01:02:14,050 --> 01:02:16,289
big raid with all the helicopters in in

1890
01:02:16,289 --> 01:02:17,974
Chicago, and they came down from the zip

1891
01:02:17,974 --> 01:02:20,315
lines? It turns out that only one person

1892
01:02:20,454 --> 01:02:22,614
that has a connection to Tran de Aragua,

1893
01:02:22,614 --> 01:02:24,855
and that's it. If that, ultimately provable. They

1894
01:02:24,855 --> 01:02:26,535
came in saying everybody in the entire building

1895
01:02:26,535 --> 01:02:28,375
was Tran de Aragua. There's just so many

1896
01:02:28,375 --> 01:02:30,614
lies swirling around all of this. And on

1897
01:02:30,614 --> 01:02:31,114
accountability,

1898
01:02:32,019 --> 01:02:34,660
Eric Dougherty simply says, Cash Patel announces the

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01:02:34,660 --> 01:02:35,160
location

1900
01:02:35,860 --> 01:02:37,140
of 5,400

1901
01:02:37,140 --> 01:02:39,400
children victims of criminals. The location?

1902
01:02:39,940 --> 01:02:41,400
FBI has found the located

1903
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:43,300
all these children. I've heard these kinda weird

1904
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:44,660
claims a bunch of times. What I think

1905
01:02:44,660 --> 01:02:46,034
is funny is even if he did good,

1906
01:02:46,034 --> 01:02:47,635
that's good. I'm glad it happened. But I

1907
01:02:47,635 --> 01:02:48,835
feel it's weird. There's a lot of these

1908
01:02:48,835 --> 01:02:50,434
kinda statements that never seem to be backed

1909
01:02:50,434 --> 01:02:51,954
up with anything. But then, of course, most

1910
01:02:51,954 --> 01:02:53,875
people going, good. Good. Where's the Epstein list?

1911
01:02:53,875 --> 01:02:56,114
And I think it's funny. Good. Did you

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01:02:56,114 --> 01:02:56,614
did

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01:02:56,914 --> 01:02:57,795
5,400

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01:02:57,795 --> 01:02:59,335
children, did you arrest anybody?

1915
01:02:59,670 --> 01:03:01,750
Exactly where I was going. Right. Exactly. They

1916
01:03:01,750 --> 01:03:02,150
never

1917
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:04,710
story. I'll I'll point out Jones on the

1918
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:06,550
third twenty third talking about his big, big,

1919
01:03:06,550 --> 01:03:08,710
big insights coming from the DOJ about everybody

1920
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:10,389
being wrapped up and marched away and back

1921
01:03:10,389 --> 01:03:12,469
in 2024 doing the same thing about Klaus

1922
01:03:12,469 --> 01:03:14,230
Schwab and and Gates, everybody else if we

1923
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:16,525
can keep Trump alive, you know, or this

1924
01:03:16,525 --> 01:03:18,204
Patel for the forty fifth time since he's

1925
01:03:18,204 --> 01:03:20,284
been in this position talking about how how

1926
01:03:20,284 --> 01:03:22,445
Nancy Pelosi is a terrorist and Obama is

1927
01:03:22,445 --> 01:03:24,284
a criminal and, you know, and and James

1928
01:03:24,284 --> 01:03:25,885
Comey, it turns out, by the way, neither

1929
01:03:25,885 --> 01:03:27,965
of James, Comey or Leticia James seem like

1930
01:03:27,965 --> 01:03:29,405
they're actually gonna be held accountable because the

1931
01:03:29,405 --> 01:03:30,925
cases seem to be completely set up to

1932
01:03:30,925 --> 01:03:32,420
fail. I just wanna lay that out there

1933
01:03:32,420 --> 01:03:34,259
how ridiculous it is that there's so much

1934
01:03:34,259 --> 01:03:36,339
manipulation going on. And then I wanted to

1935
01:03:36,339 --> 01:03:37,699
end with just talking about Israel. I've got

1936
01:03:37,699 --> 01:03:38,739
points we can get into. But if you

1937
01:03:38,739 --> 01:03:40,259
have any comments and all that, because I

1938
01:03:40,259 --> 01:03:42,500
think this, you know, overlapping, I think what's

1939
01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:43,940
crazy is that we can see that we're

1940
01:03:43,940 --> 01:03:45,934
always the two party illusion is always kinda

1941
01:03:45,934 --> 01:03:47,375
driving us into a place where we're trying

1942
01:03:47,375 --> 01:03:49,375
to pick sides. Right now, I've never seen

1943
01:03:49,375 --> 01:03:51,135
more of a flimsy stance from this. I

1944
01:03:51,135 --> 01:03:52,574
just don't know why anybody trusts these people

1945
01:03:52,574 --> 01:03:54,175
right now. It blows me away. No. It's

1946
01:03:54,175 --> 01:03:56,275
tough. It's tough to take them seriously.

1947
01:03:56,660 --> 01:03:58,500
But but also, I feel like this maybe

1948
01:03:58,820 --> 01:04:00,360
this is end of empire behavior.

1949
01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:02,980
You know? It feels like they're stealing everything

1950
01:04:02,980 --> 01:04:05,219
that isn't bolted down, you know, and the

1951
01:04:05,219 --> 01:04:05,719
the

1952
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:07,640
the insanity

1953
01:04:07,940 --> 01:04:08,440
is

1954
01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:11,480
is running rampant. It it feels very

1955
01:04:13,005 --> 01:04:14,284
disjointed. End of,

1956
01:04:15,085 --> 01:04:15,904
fourth turning

1957
01:04:16,204 --> 01:04:17,824
esque. We have financial

1958
01:04:18,284 --> 01:04:21,164
situations that are, like, blinking red indicators, like

1959
01:04:21,164 --> 01:04:23,005
gold going through the roof, silver at all

1960
01:04:23,005 --> 01:04:25,824
time highs. You know, all these things, everything

1961
01:04:25,885 --> 01:04:28,385
kinda happening at once. It feels,

1962
01:04:29,619 --> 01:04:30,119
little

1963
01:04:30,739 --> 01:04:31,239
disorienting

1964
01:04:31,860 --> 01:04:33,539
in in a sense. So you come kinda

1965
01:04:33,539 --> 01:04:35,219
don't know where to if you're a finance

1966
01:04:35,219 --> 01:04:37,059
guy, of course, you focus on the finance

1967
01:04:37,059 --> 01:04:38,900
stuff. But if you're if you're like, you

1968
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:40,579
and I did we sort of cover a

1969
01:04:40,579 --> 01:04:41,559
little bit of everything.

1970
01:04:42,065 --> 01:04:43,765
I'm having a hard time prioritizing

1971
01:04:44,545 --> 01:04:46,224
Yeah. I agree. What I think is the

1972
01:04:46,224 --> 01:04:47,765
most important because, obviously,

1973
01:04:48,144 --> 01:04:51,265
the technocracy is is creeping, and that's one

1974
01:04:51,265 --> 01:04:53,025
of those things that if if if you

1975
01:04:53,184 --> 01:04:55,500
if they lock the door, you're locked in

1976
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:57,340
there for good, and that's a huge problem.

1977
01:04:57,340 --> 01:04:59,280
So that to me feels like the priority.

1978
01:04:59,579 --> 01:05:01,179
But then I look in and I see

1979
01:05:01,179 --> 01:05:03,340
the social engineering happening, and I go, oh,

1980
01:05:03,340 --> 01:05:05,099
this we gotta get a handle on this.

1981
01:05:05,099 --> 01:05:06,860
And then the frankenfoods are out there, and

1982
01:05:06,860 --> 01:05:08,864
I go, well, maybe, hang on a second.

1983
01:05:08,864 --> 01:05:10,784
Right. Food is the most important thing. We're

1984
01:05:10,784 --> 01:05:12,385
all gonna be eating poison if we don't

1985
01:05:12,385 --> 01:05:14,385
focus on this, and maybe the technocracy will

1986
01:05:14,385 --> 01:05:16,704
collapse, but we're definitely gonna need the you

1987
01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:17,284
know? So

1988
01:05:18,385 --> 01:05:19,125
it feels

1989
01:05:19,905 --> 01:05:21,204
like there's a lot

1990
01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:24,460
To quote to quote Alex Jones, it's all

1991
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:26,780
happening. But in this case, it it might

1992
01:05:26,780 --> 01:05:29,019
actually be. Yeah. Right. You know, but he's

1993
01:05:29,019 --> 01:05:30,380
he's been right. He just now that it

1994
01:05:30,380 --> 01:05:32,480
actually starts, he doesn't talk about it. Right.

1995
01:05:32,699 --> 01:05:33,359
That's fantastic.

1996
01:05:33,739 --> 01:05:35,420
But yeah. He's been screaming about it all

1997
01:05:35,420 --> 01:05:37,804
happening forever. It's finally happening.

1998
01:05:38,105 --> 01:05:40,505
Can we talk about it? But yeah. No.

1999
01:05:40,505 --> 01:05:41,784
I I, you know, I agree. I mean,

2000
01:05:41,784 --> 01:05:43,945
it's just it's it's it is it's it's

2001
01:05:43,945 --> 01:05:44,744
hard to

2002
01:05:45,065 --> 01:05:46,585
I mean, for me, I think it's I

2003
01:05:46,585 --> 01:05:48,984
mean, I'll speak for myself. I mean, the

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01:05:48,984 --> 01:05:49,804
the most

2005
01:05:50,130 --> 01:05:52,210
livestream genocide, if not the largest, in in

2006
01:05:52,210 --> 01:05:53,730
time I mean, everything about this is the

2007
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:55,569
biggest and most alarming thing I've ever seen

2008
01:05:55,569 --> 01:05:56,529
in my life. And I I don't even

2009
01:05:56,529 --> 01:05:58,049
know how we can even argue that there's

2010
01:05:58,049 --> 01:06:00,449
anything else anywhere, not individually, like, you know,

2011
01:06:00,449 --> 01:06:01,969
from an American perspective, but just in a

2012
01:06:01,969 --> 01:06:04,115
global sense. It's it's but yet I then

2013
01:06:04,235 --> 01:06:05,755
like you're saying, I'm like, okay. You know,

2014
01:06:05,755 --> 01:06:07,675
as an American broadcasting, I've talked about what's

2015
01:06:07,675 --> 01:06:09,114
going on there a lot. I'm gonna continue

2016
01:06:09,114 --> 01:06:10,555
to. It's like I try to, like, is

2017
01:06:10,555 --> 01:06:12,635
this more important today to focus on this

2018
01:06:12,635 --> 01:06:14,635
move and the technocratic, you know, agenda and

2019
01:06:14,635 --> 01:06:16,449
how it does connect Israel. You know? I

2020
01:06:16,449 --> 01:06:17,890
I I get I every day I go

2021
01:06:17,890 --> 01:06:19,890
through that, which is very difficult to think

2022
01:06:19,890 --> 01:06:21,250
about on top of the fact that if

2023
01:06:21,250 --> 01:06:22,690
I when I lay out everything, it's like,

2024
01:06:22,690 --> 01:06:24,210
okay. That's an eighteen hour show. I can't

2025
01:06:24,210 --> 01:06:25,410
do that today. You know? It's like, I

2026
01:06:25,410 --> 01:06:27,170
have to think about how I'm gonna organize

2027
01:06:27,170 --> 01:06:29,264
this. So it it becomes this game, I

2028
01:06:29,264 --> 01:06:30,385
hate to even call it that, where you

2029
01:06:30,385 --> 01:06:33,025
where you're what horrible important thing am I

2030
01:06:33,025 --> 01:06:35,344
gonna put off today? It kills me every

2031
01:06:35,344 --> 01:06:35,844
day.

2032
01:06:36,385 --> 01:06:37,204
Yeah. For

2033
01:06:38,464 --> 01:06:41,344
us, at least, it's not lies by omission.

2034
01:06:41,344 --> 01:06:44,065
We're not leaving them out because we're trying

2035
01:06:44,065 --> 01:06:45,960
to manipulate. It's like Oh, I talk about

2036
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,320
it the next show. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

2037
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,119
Yeah. We're we're gonna get to it. Yeah.

2038
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:50,519
You know, it's just that I can't do

2039
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:53,000
it right now. I can't talk about that

2040
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
in this very moment because we're we're trying

2041
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,840
to put out another fire over here. We're

2042
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,000
we're trying to raise awareness of of an

2043
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,025
issue that we think needs to needs massive

2044
01:07:02,025 --> 01:07:04,184
attention now because it's early on and something

2045
01:07:04,184 --> 01:07:05,784
can be done about it, and so we're,

2046
01:07:05,784 --> 01:07:07,484
you know, we're focusing on the technocracy.

2047
01:07:07,784 --> 01:07:09,224
Does that not mean that we're worried about

2048
01:07:09,224 --> 01:07:09,885
the vaccines?

2049
01:07:10,344 --> 01:07:12,264
I'm definitely worried about that. And then as

2050
01:07:12,264 --> 01:07:12,925
you mentioned,

2051
01:07:13,340 --> 01:07:15,519
the crazy part is how it all interlocks

2052
01:07:15,579 --> 01:07:17,980
anyway. You know? I mean, you you you

2053
01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:18,559
you could

2054
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:21,199
you could only focus on the technocracy

2055
01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:23,420
and still wind up in the vaccine area

2056
01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:25,659
Right. Because of how you how you get

2057
01:07:25,659 --> 01:07:28,075
there through through everything that they're doing with

2058
01:07:28,075 --> 01:07:30,735
mRNA. And so it's it's just,

2059
01:07:32,875 --> 01:07:35,835
in some respects, overwhelming, but I suppose the

2060
01:07:35,835 --> 01:07:37,434
best thing to do for us is to

2061
01:07:37,434 --> 01:07:38,894
just remember, like,

2062
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,239
take care of yourself, take care of your

2063
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:42,679
family, take care of the people close to

2064
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:44,139
you, the people you can reach,

2065
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,659
be proactive in everything that you do,

2066
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,800
you know, because you'll feel like you're doing

2067
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,559
some it's it's easy to feel kinda helpless

2068
01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:53,159
when there's, like, all this bad news and

2069
01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:54,440
you feel like, what am I gonna do

2070
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,184
about it? Well, take care of you. You

2071
01:07:56,184 --> 01:07:57,864
know, it sounds a little selfish but like

2072
01:07:57,864 --> 01:07:59,484
take care of the things that are controllable

2073
01:07:59,545 --> 01:08:01,565
for you. Like do you have storable food?

2074
01:08:01,944 --> 01:08:03,545
Just get that and cross it off your

2075
01:08:03,545 --> 01:08:05,224
list. You feel like you're on your way

2076
01:08:05,224 --> 01:08:06,925
towards doing things. Get your money

2077
01:08:07,519 --> 01:08:09,940
out of the bank or reevaluate that relationship

2078
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:12,000
with the bank and start doing the things

2079
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,679
that you know you should be doing now.

2080
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:16,579
And in doing that and then being proactive

2081
01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:19,119
in that regard, you start to feel less

2082
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:20,960
helpless and more like, well, I mean, it's

2083
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,635
coming, but at least I'm prepared in these

2084
01:08:24,015 --> 01:08:26,175
aspects of my life. And then I'm not

2085
01:08:26,175 --> 01:08:27,935
wishing it to come, you know, but I've

2086
01:08:27,935 --> 01:08:30,194
got my money out of the bank because

2087
01:08:30,494 --> 01:08:32,574
I know that they can steal it, and

2088
01:08:32,574 --> 01:08:34,255
I know that they probably will. I just

2089
01:08:34,255 --> 01:08:35,875
don't know what day that'll be.

2090
01:08:36,449 --> 01:08:38,369
So, you know, just things like that. So

2091
01:08:38,369 --> 01:08:40,210
so to to people who are feeling a

2092
01:08:40,210 --> 01:08:41,890
bit overwhelmed by it all, like, I get

2093
01:08:41,890 --> 01:08:43,729
it. It's it's you know, I I feel

2094
01:08:43,729 --> 01:08:44,550
a bit overwhelmed

2095
01:08:45,170 --> 01:08:47,409
sometimes by it all too. But but when

2096
01:08:47,409 --> 01:08:49,090
you really stop and think about, like, what

2097
01:08:49,090 --> 01:08:51,795
is controllable, what can you do? Like, you're

2098
01:08:51,795 --> 01:08:53,954
just gonna there's some low hanging fruit items

2099
01:08:53,954 --> 01:08:55,395
that you can take care of for yourself.

2100
01:08:55,395 --> 01:08:58,194
And in doing that, you'll feel like you're

2101
01:08:58,194 --> 01:08:59,414
at least on the path

2102
01:08:59,795 --> 01:09:00,274
towards,

2103
01:09:00,675 --> 01:09:03,074
towards fixing things because it sometimes feels like

2104
01:09:03,074 --> 01:09:04,295
all this stuff is unfixable.

2105
01:09:04,689 --> 01:09:06,289
Well, as as always, we talk about you

2106
01:09:06,289 --> 01:09:07,649
know? I mean I mean, this is just

2107
01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:09,510
my opinion, but I think it's pretty clear

2108
01:09:09,569 --> 01:09:12,130
that it's a reaction to people seeing things

2109
01:09:12,130 --> 01:09:13,809
that they haven't called out before. You know,

2110
01:09:13,809 --> 01:09:15,409
it is a positive moment as much as

2111
01:09:15,409 --> 01:09:17,569
it feels really uncomfortable. You know, we think

2112
01:09:17,569 --> 01:09:19,270
people are starting to recognize

2113
01:09:19,685 --> 01:09:22,244
long hidden truths. There's how is that not

2114
01:09:22,244 --> 01:09:23,605
a positive thing? You know? Or the fact

2115
01:09:23,605 --> 01:09:26,405
that what we're doing every single day, despite

2116
01:09:26,405 --> 01:09:28,805
the I mean, it's insurmountable almost in a

2117
01:09:28,805 --> 01:09:30,485
lot of ways. The amount of resources and

2118
01:09:30,485 --> 01:09:32,324
where the what they have to use against

2119
01:09:32,324 --> 01:09:34,530
us and, you know, whether it's censorship or

2120
01:09:34,530 --> 01:09:36,949
suppression or algorithms and AI or lawsuits,

2121
01:09:37,329 --> 01:09:39,890
and yet we're still breaking through. Yeah. You

2122
01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:41,729
know? I mean, that's pretty profound when you

2123
01:09:41,729 --> 01:09:43,250
think about it. But, you know, before before

2124
01:09:43,250 --> 01:09:44,930
we wrap in general, and we we tend

2125
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:46,130
to kinda aim for about an hour, I

2126
01:09:46,130 --> 01:09:47,385
I if you want do you have any

2127
01:09:47,385 --> 01:09:48,664
thoughts on you wanna get into Israel for

2128
01:09:48,664 --> 01:09:49,864
a minute, or do you wanna turn on

2129
01:09:49,864 --> 01:09:51,465
next time? Yeah. No. Let's let's do that

2130
01:09:51,465 --> 01:09:53,724
because I put a an episode of macroaggressions

2131
01:09:54,024 --> 01:09:56,024
that came out yesterday called not enough money

2132
01:09:56,024 --> 01:09:57,625
in the world. And I told people in

2133
01:09:57,625 --> 01:09:58,604
advance, like,

2134
01:09:59,609 --> 01:10:01,889
I'm unhinged in this one. And and and

2135
01:10:01,929 --> 01:10:03,689
but I've got receipts and and it's not

2136
01:10:03,689 --> 01:10:05,529
for nothing. Right? I I I'm coming in

2137
01:10:05,529 --> 01:10:07,550
hot on this one. I was pretty

2138
01:10:08,489 --> 01:10:11,050
angry when I recorded that. I had seen,

2139
01:10:11,050 --> 01:10:11,710
you know,

2140
01:10:12,354 --> 01:10:13,175
just another

2141
01:10:13,954 --> 01:10:14,454
nonsensical

2142
01:10:14,755 --> 01:10:16,514
press conference where they told us not to

2143
01:10:16,514 --> 01:10:18,514
believe our eyes about what we're seeing out

2144
01:10:18,514 --> 01:10:20,274
there. And it just was one it just

2145
01:10:20,274 --> 01:10:21,795
hit me so hard. I've been working on

2146
01:10:21,795 --> 01:10:23,554
this episode and and and I've been putting

2147
01:10:23,554 --> 01:10:25,795
together all the stats, all the facts that

2148
01:10:25,795 --> 01:10:27,175
I I need to present.

2149
01:10:28,569 --> 01:10:30,969
But from an emotional side, I just was

2150
01:10:30,969 --> 01:10:33,050
shot out of a cannon in it. And,

2151
01:10:33,289 --> 01:10:35,050
and and I've had a lot of people

2152
01:10:35,050 --> 01:10:36,649
get back to me and say, there you

2153
01:10:36,649 --> 01:10:37,149
go.

2154
01:10:37,529 --> 01:10:39,369
That was nice to see. I bet that

2155
01:10:39,369 --> 01:10:40,109
felt good,

2156
01:10:40,409 --> 01:10:42,670
you know, but but it doesn't feel good.

2157
01:10:42,814 --> 01:10:44,255
I wish I didn't have to do it.

2158
01:10:44,255 --> 01:10:45,774
I wish I didn't have to think about

2159
01:10:45,774 --> 01:10:47,715
this stuff. I I I don't wanna be

2160
01:10:48,494 --> 01:10:50,335
right about it. I don't wanna be, you

2161
01:10:50,335 --> 01:10:52,014
know, I I don't want these people to

2162
01:10:52,014 --> 01:10:54,175
be suffering in Gaza. I don't want this

2163
01:10:54,175 --> 01:10:56,194
to be happening to them. I want to,

2164
01:10:57,054 --> 01:10:57,795
you know,

2165
01:10:59,250 --> 01:11:01,090
I I just I I I I can't

2166
01:11:01,090 --> 01:11:03,170
pretend like I don't see it. Yeah. I

2167
01:11:03,170 --> 01:11:05,810
refuse to do that. And so here you

2168
01:11:05,810 --> 01:11:07,250
go. And there it is. And so for

2169
01:11:07,250 --> 01:11:08,949
those who are interested, I mean,

2170
01:11:09,489 --> 01:11:12,130
again, this is not a new story, but

2171
01:11:12,130 --> 01:11:13,304
it but sometimes you

2172
01:11:13,764 --> 01:11:14,585
just get

2173
01:11:16,324 --> 01:11:17,944
it just makes you emotional.

2174
01:11:18,404 --> 01:11:20,244
It's I mean, how can it not? So

2175
01:11:20,244 --> 01:11:21,925
empty because it's such a what I mean,

2176
01:11:21,925 --> 01:11:22,484
it doesn't

2177
01:11:23,764 --> 01:11:26,164
I can't do anything. You know? And it's

2178
01:11:26,164 --> 01:11:28,789
it's hard. Yeah. Well, I mean, anybody that

2179
01:11:28,789 --> 01:11:31,350
genuinely you know, it's for, I think, most

2180
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:33,590
people, I'd like to believe, who genuinely care

2181
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:34,090
about

2182
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:36,010
you know, to have some kind of compassion,

2183
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:37,989
it's it's it's and, you know, especially, I

2184
01:11:37,989 --> 01:11:39,590
would argue from what you know, we're in

2185
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:41,109
a position where, at least to some degree,

2186
01:11:41,109 --> 01:11:42,945
you can have an influence on how people

2187
01:11:42,945 --> 01:11:44,704
see things. You know, you can affect the

2188
01:11:44,704 --> 01:11:46,864
conversation. And so it it also comes along

2189
01:11:46,864 --> 01:11:48,225
with a feeling of you that you're failing

2190
01:11:48,225 --> 01:11:49,744
them too. You know? And I know what

2191
01:11:49,744 --> 01:11:50,864
you mean. And it's and it's not like

2192
01:11:50,864 --> 01:11:52,864
it's putting us above. You know? It's a

2193
01:11:52,864 --> 01:11:54,784
minor thing in in in the comparison to

2194
01:11:54,784 --> 01:11:56,380
what these people are dealing with. But, you

2195
01:11:56,380 --> 01:11:58,619
know, it's like every day you see that

2196
01:11:58,619 --> 01:12:00,619
you can prove it and it's like, maybe

2197
01:12:00,619 --> 01:12:01,899
I could have done a little bit more,

2198
01:12:01,899 --> 01:12:03,100
I could have pushed a little harder, maybe

2199
01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:04,939
you know, it's like but, you know, we're

2200
01:12:04,939 --> 01:12:06,300
we're doing what we can. It's just so

2201
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:08,140
disgusting that we're in a world where we

2202
01:12:08,140 --> 01:12:09,579
have everything in front of us and you

2203
01:12:09,579 --> 01:12:11,354
literally can prove what's happening and the power

2204
01:12:11,354 --> 01:12:13,395
structure is so broken and so tainted and

2205
01:12:13,395 --> 01:12:14,055
so completely

2206
01:12:14,595 --> 01:12:15,814
dismantled that they

2207
01:12:16,195 --> 01:12:18,515
either don't care or aren't allowed to care.

2208
01:12:18,515 --> 01:12:21,175
You know? It's a very difficult situation. But

2209
01:12:21,235 --> 01:12:23,155
I'll I'll I'll point this one out, by

2210
01:12:23,155 --> 01:12:24,909
the way, I think is interesting as I

2211
01:12:24,909 --> 01:12:26,909
absolutely do. I mean, I thought it to

2212
01:12:26,909 --> 01:12:28,510
begin with. I think at this point, it's

2213
01:12:28,510 --> 01:12:29,010
overwhelmingly

2214
01:12:29,389 --> 01:12:31,149
clear in my opinion based on the evidence

2215
01:12:31,149 --> 01:12:32,909
that this is very much connected to Israel.

2216
01:12:32,909 --> 01:12:34,510
But I just wanna point out that teacher

2217
01:12:34,590 --> 01:12:37,069
in Franklin, by the way, teacher suspended over

2218
01:12:37,069 --> 01:12:38,555
Charlie Kirk post. And you could read about

2219
01:12:38,555 --> 01:12:40,155
this. It is quite literally I mean, let

2220
01:12:40,155 --> 01:12:41,675
me just find it real quick to make

2221
01:12:41,675 --> 01:12:42,255
the point.

2222
01:12:43,114 --> 01:12:44,574
This is what she said on her post.

2223
01:12:44,715 --> 01:12:46,314
So, basically, Charlie Kirk had said in a

2224
01:12:46,314 --> 01:12:47,774
previous post that it was,

2225
01:12:48,314 --> 01:12:49,914
that it was worth it to that people

2226
01:12:49,914 --> 01:12:51,595
had been killed by guns because it's a

2227
01:12:51,595 --> 01:12:53,319
god given right. It's important. I think it's

2228
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:54,760
a valid statement. You can make a decision

2229
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,119
what you think is worth more or not.

2230
01:12:56,119 --> 01:12:57,960
I don't think it's even insulting. He's simply

2231
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,560
saying that people will die and it's important,

2232
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,760
you know, whatever. And I but I also

2233
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,359
argue these Charlie Kirk did say things that

2234
01:13:02,359 --> 01:13:03,800
I would argue were, you know, whatever. I

2235
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,595
I don't agree with everything. What she says,

2236
01:13:05,755 --> 01:13:07,755
don't worry y'all after you got shot. It's

2237
01:13:07,755 --> 01:13:08,895
worth it. It's rational.

2238
01:13:09,435 --> 01:13:11,034
It's prudent that I have to go through

2239
01:13:11,034 --> 01:13:12,875
regular drills of practicing how I will save

2240
01:13:12,875 --> 01:13:15,914
the lives of students, practice backpacking gunshot wounds,

2241
01:13:15,914 --> 01:13:17,515
pressure kids. When they get shot at, I'll

2242
01:13:17,515 --> 01:13:18,735
be there to protect them.

2243
01:13:19,150 --> 01:13:21,230
And then they says, don't mourn don't mourn

2244
01:13:21,230 --> 01:13:22,750
his death, she wrote. It's just a piece

2245
01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:24,289
of doing business. Completely rational.

2246
01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:26,350
That's what she so, look, this is what's

2247
01:13:26,350 --> 01:13:28,270
so crazy to me. Is that insulting to

2248
01:13:28,270 --> 01:13:29,789
some people? Yes. You find that to be

2249
01:13:29,789 --> 01:13:31,885
tasteless maybe of the timing? Sure. But to

2250
01:13:31,885 --> 01:13:34,125
argue in any way as a public school,

2251
01:13:34,125 --> 01:13:36,364
which means government, that she could be removed

2252
01:13:36,364 --> 01:13:37,965
from her job, which would be a violation

2253
01:13:37,965 --> 01:13:39,725
of her first amendment because she said something

2254
01:13:39,725 --> 01:13:42,444
that insulted you? Guys, that you're the snowflake.

2255
01:13:42,444 --> 01:13:44,045
You're the broflake on the right at this

2256
01:13:44,045 --> 01:13:46,590
point. It's outrageous to me. You know? And

2257
01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:47,869
let me I'll just list some of these

2258
01:13:47,869 --> 01:13:49,069
points, and we can just talk about all

2259
01:13:49,069 --> 01:13:50,429
of them at the end. You pointed this

2260
01:13:50,429 --> 01:13:52,270
out, which I think is important. Supporting and

2261
01:13:52,270 --> 01:13:54,590
standing with Israel, this pastor said, is America

2262
01:13:54,590 --> 01:13:56,670
first. I can't believe people are still putting

2263
01:13:56,670 --> 01:13:58,349
this out there. And as you said, nobody's

2264
01:13:58,349 --> 01:13:59,889
more delusional than Christian Zionists.

2265
01:14:00,534 --> 01:14:02,614
This person's griping about the fact that they

2266
01:14:02,694 --> 01:14:05,335
that CNN frames that Israel started this war,

2267
01:14:05,335 --> 01:14:07,015
which as you said, they did. It's just

2268
01:14:07,015 --> 01:14:09,095
wild, the the grappling with this. The Qatari

2269
01:14:09,095 --> 01:14:10,854
airbase, they're now trying to pretend isn't real

2270
01:14:10,854 --> 01:14:12,420
even though you can prove that it is.

2271
01:14:12,659 --> 01:14:15,140
All straight crazy stuff. Trump and Gavin Newsom

2272
01:14:15,140 --> 01:14:16,659
wants you to believe Janice Gil writes that

2273
01:14:16,659 --> 01:14:18,179
they are different, but both are slaves to

2274
01:14:18,179 --> 01:14:20,260
the Israel lobby because they are. It just

2275
01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:22,020
is very clear. I talked about right now,

2276
01:14:22,020 --> 01:14:23,300
and this is hopefully, we can get into

2277
01:14:23,300 --> 01:14:24,739
a little bit is what's happening in Gaza

2278
01:14:24,739 --> 01:14:26,279
and the lying of the the false

2279
01:14:26,864 --> 01:14:28,465
ceasefire. And the fact that the way I

2280
01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:30,305
see it now, Netanyahu is aiming to use

2281
01:14:30,305 --> 01:14:32,704
these ISIS linked gangs, which are discussed within

2282
01:14:32,704 --> 01:14:35,104
their Knesset. It's very provable. They publicly discussed

2283
01:14:35,104 --> 01:14:36,864
this. ISIS linked gangs that have been the

2284
01:14:36,864 --> 01:14:38,670
ones stealing food for the entire time,

2285
01:14:39,149 --> 01:14:40,590
maybe other people too, but you can prove

2286
01:14:40,590 --> 01:14:42,670
this, or GHF lines where they've been shooting

2287
01:14:42,670 --> 01:14:44,270
people who are coming for food. Now they're

2288
01:14:44,270 --> 01:14:46,529
the ones literally out there executing people

2289
01:14:46,829 --> 01:14:48,829
or being executed by Hamas, and they frame

2290
01:14:48,829 --> 01:14:51,435
it as Hamas killing everybody in Gaza. Very

2291
01:14:51,435 --> 01:14:53,675
weird. Oh, just daily reminder that this American

2292
01:14:53,755 --> 01:14:55,835
third generation American from Florida is still in

2293
01:14:55,835 --> 01:14:57,595
prison in Israel, has been for seven months,

2294
01:14:57,595 --> 01:14:59,914
eight months now. Anyway, just wanna get those

2295
01:14:59,914 --> 01:15:01,755
out there, people remember. But, you know, where

2296
01:15:01,755 --> 01:15:03,034
where we are right now with this is

2297
01:15:03,034 --> 01:15:04,715
really, really wild. You know, that that it's

2298
01:15:04,715 --> 01:15:07,180
about a left right thing somehow. Even though

2299
01:15:07,180 --> 01:15:09,340
Israel's been manipulating all of our government and

2300
01:15:09,340 --> 01:15:10,699
all of our country for quite a learn

2301
01:15:10,780 --> 01:15:13,340
long time and is now, I guess, allowing

2302
01:15:13,340 --> 01:15:14,780
us I mean, how do you read what's

2303
01:15:14,780 --> 01:15:16,460
going on with the ceasefire? Let's just start

2304
01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:16,960
there.

2305
01:15:17,899 --> 01:15:19,899
Oh, well, I'd be of course, I'd you

2306
01:15:19,899 --> 01:15:21,195
can't trust ceasefires.

2307
01:15:21,574 --> 01:15:23,895
I'm I'm in favor of peace, so I'll

2308
01:15:23,895 --> 01:15:25,414
take a cease fire even if it's a

2309
01:15:25,414 --> 01:15:26,935
fake one for as long as we can

2310
01:15:26,935 --> 01:15:28,135
have it. It actually stops it, but you

2311
01:15:28,135 --> 01:15:30,055
didn't It actually stops things. Yeah. Then you

2312
01:15:30,055 --> 01:15:31,975
get the reports that it doesn't, you know.

2313
01:15:31,975 --> 01:15:33,895
And listen, it's a one way cease fire

2314
01:15:33,895 --> 01:15:36,659
because this is it's not like it's not

2315
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,019
like the Palestinians are are are, you know,

2316
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,039
at this point fighting back in the way

2317
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:45,199
that's, you know, comparable to the Israelis. This

2318
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:45,699
is

2319
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,719
this is let's please stop the murder. I'm

2320
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:50,685
in favor of that. Yeah. Do and and

2321
01:15:50,685 --> 01:15:52,145
you know what? If it gets

2322
01:15:52,445 --> 01:15:53,505
if it gets people

2323
01:15:54,045 --> 01:15:56,125
to stop dying, give Donald Trump whatever he

2324
01:15:56,125 --> 01:15:57,805
wants. You know? I I would agree with

2325
01:15:57,805 --> 01:15:59,564
that. Thanks. I don't care. He's such an

2326
01:15:59,564 --> 01:16:00,064
egomaniac.

2327
01:16:00,364 --> 01:16:02,445
That that that that price has zero value

2328
01:16:02,445 --> 01:16:03,965
to me. The people that gave it they

2329
01:16:03,965 --> 01:16:06,390
give that peace price to Henry Kissinger for

2330
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:08,869
stopping the Vietnam War in 1973.

2331
01:16:08,869 --> 01:16:10,630
The war didn't end till '75.

2332
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:11,989
Right. You know what I mean? Like, it's

2333
01:16:11,989 --> 01:16:12,970
it's been a worthless,

2334
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:15,350
award for a long time. So

2335
01:16:16,864 --> 01:16:17,925
but I don't trust

2336
01:16:19,025 --> 01:16:19,765
the Israelis

2337
01:16:20,145 --> 01:16:22,704
to actually stop. We know what they wanna

2338
01:16:22,704 --> 01:16:23,204
do.

2339
01:16:24,625 --> 01:16:27,265
A a a ceasefire is not in their

2340
01:16:27,265 --> 01:16:29,185
best interest. It's not it's not what they

2341
01:16:29,185 --> 01:16:30,324
want. They will eventually,

2342
01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:33,179
find a way to break it and,

2343
01:16:33,639 --> 01:16:36,119
they already are in technical way. Yeah. If

2344
01:16:36,119 --> 01:16:38,300
if if you're right. So I I don't,

2345
01:16:39,719 --> 01:16:41,239
you know, I don't go to bed saying,

2346
01:16:41,239 --> 01:16:43,399
thank god that's so that that thing's been

2347
01:16:43,399 --> 01:16:43,899
solved.

2348
01:16:44,234 --> 01:16:46,554
You know, think, you know, think that Donald

2349
01:16:46,554 --> 01:16:48,074
Trump went there and and wrapped it all

2350
01:16:48,074 --> 01:16:50,494
up. Now nobody will die anymore. I don't

2351
01:16:50,635 --> 01:16:53,034
obviously believe any of that. That has to

2352
01:16:53,034 --> 01:16:54,395
be one of the most frustrating parts in

2353
01:16:54,395 --> 01:16:55,835
all of this is how many people I

2354
01:16:55,835 --> 01:16:58,074
mean, like, Ben Shapiro level, including Ben Shapiro,

2355
01:16:58,074 --> 01:16:59,500
that came out and been like, all you

2356
01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:01,420
people calling for ceasefire, why are you so

2357
01:17:01,420 --> 01:17:03,340
silent right now? And as they're posting that,

2358
01:17:03,340 --> 01:17:04,780
I can prove that Israel was bombing and

2359
01:17:04,780 --> 01:17:06,460
killing people in Gaza or that they were

2360
01:17:06,460 --> 01:17:08,220
doing any number of other things that clearly

2361
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:10,220
violated like the the closing of Rafa or

2362
01:17:10,220 --> 01:17:12,925
the restricting of food or, you know, kidnapping

2363
01:17:12,925 --> 01:17:15,164
Palestinians and posting it on Instagram, you know,

2364
01:17:15,164 --> 01:17:16,364
and yet they're out there going, why are

2365
01:17:16,525 --> 01:17:17,645
on top of the fact that it's not

2366
01:17:17,645 --> 01:17:19,425
even actually an end, it's only a ceasefire.

2367
01:17:19,485 --> 01:17:20,604
And on top of that, you know, it's

2368
01:17:20,604 --> 01:17:22,284
like it just kills me that that's what

2369
01:17:22,284 --> 01:17:24,005
they're doing and acting like somehow you, you

2370
01:17:24,005 --> 01:17:25,564
know, just got what you wanted. You or

2371
01:17:25,564 --> 01:17:27,005
saying that's an end to the war, he

2372
01:17:27,005 --> 01:17:28,810
could jumpy. But I'm with you. Give him

2373
01:17:28,810 --> 01:17:30,810
that. I don't care if it actually stops

2374
01:17:30,810 --> 01:17:32,649
this, but I think we can clearly prove

2375
01:17:32,649 --> 01:17:35,149
just like last time that Israel is intent

2376
01:17:35,210 --> 01:17:37,369
already showing you that they are not going

2377
01:17:37,369 --> 01:17:38,969
to stop this. They already said that they're

2378
01:17:38,969 --> 01:17:40,969
gonna force Hamas to disarm even though Trump

2379
01:17:40,969 --> 01:17:42,569
had already told them and within the deal

2380
01:17:42,569 --> 01:17:44,604
that they were allowed to rearm for a

2381
01:17:44,604 --> 01:17:46,284
period of time, and they're sort of using

2382
01:17:46,284 --> 01:17:48,125
that confusion to act like they're violating it

2383
01:17:48,125 --> 01:17:49,564
right now. It's, like, just it's all so

2384
01:17:49,564 --> 01:17:52,045
disgusting, man. And people are still suffering as

2385
01:17:52,045 --> 01:17:52,545
usual.

2386
01:17:53,324 --> 01:17:53,824
Yeah.

2387
01:17:54,284 --> 01:17:55,324
It's it's it's,

2388
01:17:56,045 --> 01:17:57,024
it's been a gross

2389
01:17:57,630 --> 01:18:00,110
stain on humanity the last couple of years

2390
01:18:00,110 --> 01:18:02,670
to to watch this and but but if

2391
01:18:02,670 --> 01:18:04,829
anything good comes out of it, and it's

2392
01:18:04,829 --> 01:18:06,850
not gonna be much compared to the devastation

2393
01:18:06,909 --> 01:18:08,670
there, but if anything good does come out

2394
01:18:08,670 --> 01:18:10,684
of this, it will be that there is

2395
01:18:10,684 --> 01:18:13,085
not enough money in the world for Israel

2396
01:18:13,085 --> 01:18:15,244
to fix this public relations mess. Oh, yeah.

2397
01:18:15,244 --> 01:18:17,324
That's that's long. That's over, you know? It's

2398
01:18:17,324 --> 01:18:21,324
over for them. They're done forever. Okay? For

2399
01:18:21,324 --> 01:18:23,585
as long as we remember for our lifetimes.

2400
01:18:23,810 --> 01:18:25,430
Yep. And they've made a

2401
01:18:25,810 --> 01:18:28,390
serious miscalculation with the younger demographics.

2402
01:18:28,850 --> 01:18:29,829
Oh, yeah. Generation.

2403
01:18:30,210 --> 01:18:31,989
There those guys are gone.

2404
01:18:32,369 --> 01:18:35,489
They're not coming back. They've memified you. They've

2405
01:18:35,489 --> 01:18:38,210
turned you into a joke. It's over for

2406
01:18:38,210 --> 01:18:40,814
you. You know? So there's boomers.

2407
01:18:41,755 --> 01:18:44,074
You know, you've we've got what? Right leaning

2408
01:18:44,074 --> 01:18:45,914
boomers that are supportive of it. I mean

2409
01:18:45,994 --> 01:18:48,234
They've some. Yeah. Not even all of them.

2410
01:18:48,234 --> 01:18:49,295
They're all quadrupled

2411
01:18:49,914 --> 01:18:51,914
jabbed. So how much longer are they gonna

2412
01:18:51,914 --> 01:18:53,579
be around? This is this is if this

2413
01:18:53,579 --> 01:18:55,899
is a if if Israel was a stock,

2414
01:18:55,899 --> 01:18:57,280
you would be shorting it.

2415
01:18:57,979 --> 01:18:59,340
Yeah. I mean well, and you've seen the

2416
01:18:59,340 --> 01:19:01,260
Republican, you know, the $7,000

2417
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:03,680
funding, like, the very public discussion of Netanyahu

2418
01:19:03,899 --> 01:19:05,340
saying that. Like, at what point did that

2419
01:19:05,340 --> 01:19:06,960
just become a public

2420
01:19:07,625 --> 01:19:08,685
public relations

2421
01:19:08,985 --> 01:19:10,985
engagement? Like, it's just it's wild to me.

2422
01:19:10,985 --> 01:19:12,505
Maybe he didn't think that that was gonna

2423
01:19:12,505 --> 01:19:13,945
be recorded and put out. I mean, I

2424
01:19:13,945 --> 01:19:15,545
I don't know. It's pretty wild. But then

2425
01:19:15,545 --> 01:19:17,305
you get those people like that Xavier guy

2426
01:19:17,305 --> 01:19:18,744
going out. Did you see that he literally

2427
01:19:18,744 --> 01:19:20,909
put the Israeli flag over the American flag?

2428
01:19:20,909 --> 01:19:23,070
That was pretty widely shared. I just don't

2429
01:19:23,070 --> 01:19:24,750
even understand. I mean, but this is why

2430
01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:26,670
I argue that most conservatives, and I truly

2431
01:19:26,670 --> 01:19:28,510
do believe this. Let me take your thought

2432
01:19:28,510 --> 01:19:30,430
again. We bring this up every time, are

2433
01:19:30,430 --> 01:19:32,189
actually seeing through this right now. I think

2434
01:19:32,189 --> 01:19:33,470
that's pretty easy to prove. What do you

2435
01:19:33,470 --> 01:19:33,970
think?

2436
01:19:35,135 --> 01:19:37,614
I I I they've lost a lot of

2437
01:19:37,614 --> 01:19:38,114
conservatives.

2438
01:19:38,574 --> 01:19:40,574
Yeah. They've they've lost they've lost a lot.

2439
01:19:40,574 --> 01:19:42,735
And it it's been and and, look, I

2440
01:19:42,735 --> 01:19:44,114
mean, for some people,

2441
01:19:44,815 --> 01:19:45,555
it's been

2442
01:19:46,255 --> 01:19:47,235
Israel's behavior

2443
01:19:47,719 --> 01:19:50,039
in, on the battlefield, if you can you

2444
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:50,679
can call it that.

2445
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,479
And some of it has been Israel's behavior

2446
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,140
in the church

2447
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,319
and with the Christian Zionism component of this.

2448
01:19:57,319 --> 01:19:59,880
And they're starting to see their their their

2449
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,219
religious the Christian religious leaders

2450
01:20:03,154 --> 01:20:05,734
with huge followings like pastor Greg Locke,

2451
01:20:06,114 --> 01:20:08,295
you know, talk about Israel in a very

2452
01:20:08,515 --> 01:20:10,375
unnatural way that feels

2453
01:20:11,074 --> 01:20:12,994
almost like blink twice if you if you're

2454
01:20:12,994 --> 01:20:15,090
being held against your will sort of stuff.

2455
01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:16,609
But then you realize how much money is

2456
01:20:16,609 --> 01:20:18,609
flowing in and you realize it's probably more

2457
01:20:18,609 --> 01:20:21,329
money than anything that this guy maybe actually

2458
01:20:21,329 --> 01:20:24,130
believes it. So there's a Yeah. They're losing

2459
01:20:24,130 --> 01:20:27,090
the PR war on the battlefield, of course.

2460
01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:29,010
They're losing it in social media. It's a

2461
01:20:29,010 --> 01:20:31,534
catastrophe there. And then they're losing it in

2462
01:20:31,534 --> 01:20:32,975
the church. And then, of course, some of

2463
01:20:32,975 --> 01:20:35,054
these kinda blur together, and and the people

2464
01:20:35,054 --> 01:20:36,734
who who are in church are on social

2465
01:20:36,734 --> 01:20:38,414
media, and they're talking they're showing these videos

2466
01:20:38,414 --> 01:20:39,534
saying, look at this. Get a load of

2467
01:20:39,534 --> 01:20:41,534
this guy. He's out of his mind talking

2468
01:20:41,534 --> 01:20:42,270
about this.

2469
01:20:43,149 --> 01:20:44,829
Kenneth Copeland, take a look at this lizard

2470
01:20:44,829 --> 01:20:46,590
person guy. He's going on and on about

2471
01:20:46,590 --> 01:20:48,590
this or that. You know? And so people

2472
01:20:48,590 --> 01:20:50,770
are starting to ask questions and,

2473
01:20:52,590 --> 01:20:54,510
you know, and Israel's trying to prevent them

2474
01:20:54,510 --> 01:20:56,510
from getting the answers they don't want. But

2475
01:20:56,510 --> 01:20:58,204
that is this is

2476
01:20:58,585 --> 01:21:00,845
just a case study in Streisand effect.

2477
01:21:01,545 --> 01:21:04,024
You know? Right. You just can't, you know,

2478
01:21:04,024 --> 01:21:06,765
and the funniest component of it is that

2479
01:21:07,225 --> 01:21:09,385
they they turn the $7,000

2480
01:21:09,385 --> 01:21:10,765
thing into a meme

2481
01:21:11,225 --> 01:21:12,204
that is funny

2482
01:21:12,789 --> 01:21:15,829
even if the person isn't taking Israeli money.

2483
01:21:15,829 --> 01:21:17,750
Right? So it works either way. If they

2484
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:20,170
are taking it, it's a shaming of 7,000.

2485
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:22,069
If it's just somebody who has just happens

2486
01:21:22,069 --> 01:21:23,829
to have a pro Israel opinion, then you

2487
01:21:23,829 --> 01:21:25,510
go in the comment section and refer to

2488
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:26,310
7,007

2489
01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:28,935
thousand 7. That is hilarious. Oh, oh, oh,

2490
01:21:28,935 --> 01:21:30,695
oh, no. Tough to for them to come

2491
01:21:30,695 --> 01:21:32,295
back from there. Like, no. But I wasn't

2492
01:21:32,295 --> 01:21:33,975
thinking it's like, it doesn't matter. It's I

2493
01:21:33,975 --> 01:21:35,335
thought you were gonna take a given direction.

2494
01:21:35,335 --> 01:21:37,095
I thought see, what I've seen is and

2495
01:21:37,095 --> 01:21:38,534
I think this is even better. And so,

2496
01:21:38,534 --> 01:21:40,055
you know, basically, the point is, you know,

2497
01:21:40,055 --> 01:21:41,895
you're being paid 7,000. You can prove it.

2498
01:21:41,895 --> 01:21:43,310
Over here, you're going, well, you're doing it

2499
01:21:43,310 --> 01:21:45,550
for free, moron. Like, let him do it.

2500
01:21:45,550 --> 01:21:48,109
Maybe if there's doubt, there's for it. Well,

2501
01:21:48,109 --> 01:21:49,630
yeah. Yeah. You because you can cook them

2502
01:21:49,630 --> 01:21:51,710
either way. Yeah. Right. For being too stupid

2503
01:21:51,710 --> 01:21:53,710
to take the 7,000 or you can cook

2504
01:21:53,710 --> 01:21:55,949
them for for taking the 7,000. Either way,

2505
01:21:55,949 --> 01:21:56,689
it's bad.

2506
01:21:57,204 --> 01:21:58,885
And that's what they found is that they've

2507
01:21:58,885 --> 01:22:00,744
they've they've angered the Reddits,

2508
01:22:01,045 --> 01:22:03,125
you know, the Redditors out there. And and

2509
01:22:03,125 --> 01:22:04,265
once you do that,

2510
01:22:04,885 --> 01:22:07,445
they'll turn your they'll turn you into a

2511
01:22:07,445 --> 01:22:09,465
joke, and then it's like quicksand.

2512
01:22:09,909 --> 01:22:12,390
The more you struggle Right. The more they

2513
01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:14,630
they pile on and that you just can't

2514
01:22:14,630 --> 01:22:15,369
win this.

2515
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:18,470
So, and of course, nobody's gonna, you know,

2516
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:20,710
nobody and then it's not like everybody just

2517
01:22:20,710 --> 01:22:22,390
woke up one morning and decided to be

2518
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:24,854
mean to Israel too. They're murdering

2519
01:22:25,234 --> 01:22:28,135
women and children by the tens of thousands.

2520
01:22:28,354 --> 01:22:30,375
And then laughing about it on social media.

2521
01:22:30,594 --> 01:22:33,074
And and there is plenty of reasons to

2522
01:22:33,074 --> 01:22:34,774
be upset about this. So

2523
01:22:35,154 --> 01:22:36,135
so it's,

2524
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,359
you know, I never I I really sort

2525
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:41,359
of thought I remember when I wrote my

2526
01:22:41,359 --> 01:22:43,680
Octopus of Global Control book in 2017 or

2527
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,279
I put it out in 2017, I have

2528
01:22:45,279 --> 01:22:47,060
two chapters in there about Israel.

2529
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,699
And I remember thinking like, this is edgy.

2530
01:22:50,524 --> 01:22:52,364
You know what I mean? Now I look

2531
01:22:52,364 --> 01:22:54,784
back and I think, boy, like, how irrelevant

2532
01:22:54,845 --> 01:22:56,524
would the book have been if I didn't

2533
01:22:56,524 --> 01:22:58,125
have that in there? You know? Because it

2534
01:22:58,125 --> 01:23:00,305
would have just been a huge blind spot.

2535
01:23:00,524 --> 01:23:03,164
Thinking much I saw it back then. And

2536
01:23:03,164 --> 01:23:04,704
and it's only gotten worse

2537
01:23:05,079 --> 01:23:06,840
or or more pronounced, I should say, or

2538
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,859
more out in the open. Mhmm. And,

2539
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,039
and but and it was annoying back then

2540
01:23:12,039 --> 01:23:13,479
because it's like, oh, he feels like they

2541
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,319
wanna manipulate us so that we'll be more

2542
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:17,079
favorable to Israel. Well, I get it. You

2543
01:23:17,079 --> 01:23:18,600
know, the Chinese probably wanna do the same

2544
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,804
thing. Oh, yeah. But it's turned into something

2545
01:23:20,804 --> 01:23:21,304
now

2546
01:23:21,844 --> 01:23:24,244
where it's like, no. We want you to

2547
01:23:24,244 --> 01:23:25,925
go in front of the American people and

2548
01:23:25,925 --> 01:23:27,684
tell them they don't see what they're seeing.

2549
01:23:27,684 --> 01:23:29,764
And it's like, when you do that, when

2550
01:23:29,764 --> 01:23:32,184
you're asking people to to not see

2551
01:23:33,045 --> 01:23:33,704
a genocide,

2552
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,320
You know, I suppose if you if you

2553
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,820
allow yourself to be blinded to that,

2554
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,360
boy, man, I don't know. I don't have

2555
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,439
much respect for you. I think that it's

2556
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:45,800
been a wake up call to a lot

2557
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,175
of people. And and and as as the

2558
01:23:48,175 --> 01:23:50,975
old Navajo proverb goes, you cannot wake a

2559
01:23:50,975 --> 01:23:52,994
person who is pretending to be asleep.

2560
01:23:53,375 --> 01:23:55,694
Oh, I like that. Yeah. That's I mean,

2561
01:23:55,694 --> 01:23:57,074
I think and that's the most

2562
01:23:57,454 --> 01:23:59,054
apt, like, right where we are, you know,

2563
01:23:59,054 --> 01:24:00,975
where people are I mean, I guess even

2564
01:24:00,975 --> 01:24:01,715
though you could

2565
01:24:02,079 --> 01:24:04,319
frame that as that people are choosing to

2566
01:24:04,319 --> 01:24:06,079
believe that they're asleep when you can clearly

2567
01:24:06,079 --> 01:24:07,359
tell that they're faking it. You know, it's

2568
01:24:07,359 --> 01:24:09,039
like there it's there's so many people out

2569
01:24:09,039 --> 01:24:11,199
there who are showing themselves to be I

2570
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:12,479
mean, look, you like you said, you could

2571
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,399
either argue that they just aren't incapable of

2572
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:16,454
seeing this, which is more than enough to

2573
01:24:16,454 --> 01:24:17,975
be like, I should never listen to this

2574
01:24:17,975 --> 01:24:20,215
guy ever again, or they're choosing to hide

2575
01:24:20,215 --> 01:24:21,114
it, which is,

2576
01:24:21,574 --> 01:24:23,494
I mean, disgusting. I mean, there's not even

2577
01:24:23,494 --> 01:24:25,335
words to to grapple. Like, the idea of,

2578
01:24:25,655 --> 01:24:27,735
not you know, it's just they're so far

2579
01:24:27,735 --> 01:24:29,520
far over the top. And I think this

2580
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,199
speaks to the much larger point of all

2581
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:33,520
of what's been happening with Zionism, and what

2582
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,180
this was post October 7 was their miscalculation

2583
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:38,800
to a to a deadly fact. I mean,

2584
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,239
very much so that they thought that they

2585
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:42,239
could go let let we're gonna finish this

2586
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:44,155
this this year, you know, and really what

2587
01:24:44,155 --> 01:24:45,675
they did was shoot themselves in both feet.

2588
01:24:45,675 --> 01:24:47,195
And now there's no putting that genie back

2589
01:24:47,195 --> 01:24:49,114
in the bottle when Americans are calling it

2590
01:24:49,114 --> 01:24:50,875
out. And now our government is punishing us

2591
01:24:50,875 --> 01:24:52,074
for it is what it feels like to

2592
01:24:52,074 --> 01:24:54,795
me, you know? It certainly does. It certainly

2593
01:24:54,795 --> 01:24:57,114
does. It feels like our government is punishing

2594
01:24:57,114 --> 01:24:58,015
us for noticing

2595
01:24:58,659 --> 01:25:00,340
what's been going on with them the whole

2596
01:25:00,340 --> 01:25:02,180
time. How dare you? How dare you call

2597
01:25:02,180 --> 01:25:04,420
this out? Yeah. Well, obviously, because they're culpable.

2598
01:25:04,420 --> 01:25:06,340
Right? They're they're literally criminal. You know, they're

2599
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:08,260
what they're doing is either either or or

2600
01:25:08,260 --> 01:25:10,260
maybe blackmailed and threatened, which maybe they would

2601
01:25:10,260 --> 01:25:12,500
feel internally that it's not their fault. But

2602
01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:14,595
either way, they all seem to have a

2603
01:25:14,595 --> 01:25:17,875
weirdness around Epstein, around Israel, or and I

2604
01:25:17,875 --> 01:25:20,034
mean, you know, you could we should be

2605
01:25:20,034 --> 01:25:22,194
objective and say maybe it's not exactly what

2606
01:25:22,194 --> 01:25:24,295
I think, but it speaks for itself.

2607
01:25:24,675 --> 01:25:26,675
It is obvious, guys. And I know we

2608
01:25:26,675 --> 01:25:27,954
all see it. I just all I'm doing

2609
01:25:27,954 --> 01:25:29,579
every time is calling on people to stand

2610
01:25:29,579 --> 01:25:31,659
up and call it out, you know, make

2611
01:25:31,659 --> 01:25:32,939
it clear for people that next to you

2612
01:25:32,939 --> 01:25:34,460
that, yeah, I see it too. You're not

2613
01:25:34,460 --> 01:25:36,380
crazy. You know, we all recognize this. And

2614
01:25:36,380 --> 01:25:38,219
just it's it's about government power. That's all

2615
01:25:38,219 --> 01:25:39,840
it really comes down to, you know. But

2616
01:25:39,979 --> 01:25:41,840
I I think that let let's end with

2617
01:25:41,899 --> 01:25:44,045
one point just asking you on in like,

2618
01:25:44,045 --> 01:25:46,204
with this point and overlapping around the Qatari

2619
01:25:46,204 --> 01:25:47,885
airbase, which I very much think is just

2620
01:25:47,885 --> 01:25:50,045
more of an extension of Israel's agenda, quite

2621
01:25:50,045 --> 01:25:52,524
frankly. Where do you see that right now

2622
01:25:52,524 --> 01:25:55,484
in regard to, let's just say, Israel's influence

2623
01:25:55,484 --> 01:25:57,699
on US policy? You know, where do you

2624
01:25:57,699 --> 01:25:59,380
feel that is the the line is at

2625
01:25:59,380 --> 01:26:01,060
right now, which is our opinion, by the

2626
01:26:01,060 --> 01:26:02,520
way, completely. I

2627
01:26:03,140 --> 01:26:05,939
I think whatever Israel wants, the American government

2628
01:26:05,939 --> 01:26:08,340
does. I really just don't I agree. I

2629
01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:10,119
just don't know if there's much

2630
01:26:11,284 --> 01:26:14,164
room between the two of them. They seem

2631
01:26:14,164 --> 01:26:14,664
pretty

2632
01:26:15,604 --> 01:26:16,104
interlocked,

2633
01:26:16,645 --> 01:26:17,304
be that

2634
01:26:17,685 --> 01:26:19,145
because they actually

2635
01:26:19,524 --> 01:26:20,505
have some ideological

2636
01:26:20,885 --> 01:26:23,925
overlap, which which they do, or because they're

2637
01:26:23,925 --> 01:26:25,465
captured in some way.

2638
01:26:25,989 --> 01:26:28,890
But I don't see much daylight between the

2639
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:31,750
American foreign policy and Israeli foreign policy or

2640
01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:33,350
or anything have you I guess that were

2641
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:36,070
technically the domestic policy of of Qatar Airbase

2642
01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:38,565
here. But but that, you know, I could

2643
01:26:38,565 --> 01:26:41,225
I could envision a scenario where Netanyahu

2644
01:26:41,525 --> 01:26:43,465
says, that's not gonna happen.

2645
01:26:43,925 --> 01:26:46,005
Or or, you know, like, we're not you

2646
01:26:46,005 --> 01:26:47,525
you guys aren't doing that. Come on now.

2647
01:26:47,525 --> 01:26:49,065
Yeah. Yeah. So and and

2648
01:26:49,604 --> 01:26:51,539
and, frankly, we shouldn't be doing that. We

2649
01:26:51,539 --> 01:26:52,899
we there's a lot of things we shouldn't

2650
01:26:52,899 --> 01:26:54,420
be doing. We shouldn't be doing it because

2651
01:26:54,420 --> 01:26:56,099
Israel doesn't want us to do it do

2652
01:26:56,099 --> 01:26:57,859
it. We should not be doing it for

2653
01:26:57,859 --> 01:27:00,599
for our own sovereignty and not be allowing

2654
01:27:00,659 --> 01:27:02,579
foreign air bases inside of our I mean,

2655
01:27:02,579 --> 01:27:03,059
it's just

2656
01:27:04,275 --> 01:27:06,435
you you you have to ask questions about

2657
01:27:06,435 --> 01:27:07,175
where people's

2658
01:27:07,555 --> 01:27:08,055
loyalties

2659
01:27:08,515 --> 01:27:09,954
lie. And I don't and I don't, you

2660
01:27:09,954 --> 01:27:11,875
know, I'm not somebody that gets all weepy

2661
01:27:11,875 --> 01:27:13,795
about the American flag and wrap myself in

2662
01:27:13,795 --> 01:27:15,655
it or anything like that. But I do

2663
01:27:15,715 --> 01:27:17,555
think that there is a case to be

2664
01:27:17,555 --> 01:27:19,479
made that, like, you can't allow

2665
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:23,619
foreign countries military base military to open bases

2666
01:27:23,619 --> 01:27:25,779
inside your country. I mean, you're like, when

2667
01:27:25,779 --> 01:27:28,819
we do that in Iraq, in Syria, that

2668
01:27:28,819 --> 01:27:29,800
is most definitely

2669
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:32,100
against their will or maybe we've installed a

2670
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:34,564
government who then allows it. But in in

2671
01:27:34,564 --> 01:27:35,545
the early stages,

2672
01:27:35,925 --> 01:27:36,425
it

2673
01:27:36,885 --> 01:27:38,244
that's not your you don't do it because

2674
01:27:38,244 --> 01:27:39,844
you're friends. I mean, this is not the

2675
01:27:39,844 --> 01:27:42,164
the Saudi relationship. It feels very much like

2676
01:27:42,164 --> 01:27:44,564
the beginning of some sort of infestation. So

2677
01:27:44,564 --> 01:27:46,689
I would say, let's not do it for

2678
01:27:46,689 --> 01:27:47,189
anybody.

2679
01:27:48,050 --> 01:27:48,869
Israeli, Qatari,

2680
01:27:49,729 --> 01:27:50,229
Saudi,

2681
01:27:51,649 --> 01:27:52,149
Canadians,

2682
01:27:52,449 --> 01:27:53,810
and it could to be on the safe

2683
01:27:53,810 --> 01:27:56,050
side. All of them. Nobody. Right? Nobody gets

2684
01:27:56,050 --> 01:27:57,810
their basis here. And I and I would

2685
01:27:57,810 --> 01:27:59,010
add too, though, that, like, to what I

2686
01:27:59,010 --> 01:28:00,545
said in the beginning, I mean, I know

2687
01:28:00,545 --> 01:28:02,305
I know what the presentation is and how

2688
01:28:02,305 --> 01:28:03,125
it's like,

2689
01:28:04,225 --> 01:28:06,305
we can't miss that Qatar was used as

2690
01:28:06,305 --> 01:28:09,104
the facilitator of funding to Hamas through Israel.

2691
01:28:09,104 --> 01:28:10,625
Right? There's one point. There's a lot of

2692
01:28:10,625 --> 01:28:11,905
those though. And I think that like with

2693
01:28:11,905 --> 01:28:13,800
Egypt and UAE, that these are

2694
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:16,859
it's it's it's nuanced as always. It's multifaceted.

2695
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,359
There's different angles to it, but at the

2696
01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:19,559
end of the day, I think that that

2697
01:28:19,559 --> 01:28:22,359
represents an Israeli interest in this country. As

2698
01:28:22,359 --> 01:28:23,960
much as they say otherwise, or we don't

2699
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,800
want that, or yet the loomers out there

2700
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,199
going, it's Qatari influence over our politicians. You

2701
01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:28,604
know?

2702
01:28:29,085 --> 01:28:30,204
I I think there's a reason there, like

2703
01:28:30,284 --> 01:28:32,045
but you I think we have to recognize

2704
01:28:32,045 --> 01:28:33,965
what that really represents. A lot of these,

2705
01:28:33,965 --> 01:28:35,725
you know, fake like, I shouldn't call it

2706
01:28:35,725 --> 01:28:36,925
that, but, you know, I think, like, with

2707
01:28:36,925 --> 01:28:38,944
Egypt. That's one of the most obvious examples.

2708
01:28:39,005 --> 01:28:40,989
Regime change, put that person in power to

2709
01:28:40,989 --> 01:28:42,989
be more amenable to Israel. The population does

2710
01:28:42,989 --> 01:28:44,670
not like Israel. Right? It's very that I

2711
01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:45,949
think that's a lot of what we see

2712
01:28:45,949 --> 01:28:48,109
right there, why most of them, even Jordan,

2713
01:28:48,109 --> 01:28:49,989
have failed to help Palestine. Right? And I

2714
01:28:50,030 --> 01:28:51,310
so I think we have to think about

2715
01:28:51,310 --> 01:28:52,989
the way that these regime changes have been

2716
01:28:52,989 --> 01:28:54,930
used and not see them as necessarily

2717
01:28:55,375 --> 01:28:56,494
what they want you to see them as.

2718
01:28:56,494 --> 01:28:57,935
So I look at Qatar airbase as might

2719
01:28:57,935 --> 01:28:59,454
as well be an Israeli airbase. That's how

2720
01:28:59,454 --> 01:29:00,895
I kinda think of that. But either way,

2721
01:29:00,895 --> 01:29:02,734
I agree it should not be happening. Yeah.

2722
01:29:02,734 --> 01:29:04,494
I'm just in favor of them not and

2723
01:29:04,494 --> 01:29:05,935
and by the way, I'm in favor of

2724
01:29:05,935 --> 01:29:08,094
us closing our airbases all over the world

2725
01:29:08,094 --> 01:29:09,829
as well. I I I want us to

2726
01:29:09,829 --> 01:29:11,270
keep you out of Syria, and, I mean,

2727
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:12,630
of course, it doesn't matter what I think

2728
01:29:12,630 --> 01:29:14,149
or what I want, and I know why

2729
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:16,949
we're there. But but I'm not somebody who's

2730
01:29:16,949 --> 01:29:18,949
like, America, you know, get get all you

2731
01:29:18,949 --> 01:29:21,189
know, I want our stuff back too. This

2732
01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:22,984
is not this is not,

2733
01:29:23,364 --> 01:29:24,824
how you behave when you

2734
01:29:25,284 --> 01:29:27,524
when you set up your military bases in

2735
01:29:27,524 --> 01:29:31,204
other countries. You you know? It it's it's

2736
01:29:31,204 --> 01:29:33,284
not even you know, even our relationship with

2737
01:29:33,284 --> 01:29:35,545
Saudi Arabia some sometimes feels like a hostage

2738
01:29:36,005 --> 01:29:36,404
situation where

2739
01:29:36,965 --> 01:29:38,869
It it's a it's a fake state. I

2740
01:29:38,869 --> 01:29:41,109
mean, Saudi Arabia was basically set up in

2741
01:29:41,109 --> 01:29:43,270
regard to the way they wanted this family

2742
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:44,789
to rule based on the interest of these

2743
01:29:44,789 --> 01:29:46,389
foreign powers. I mean, you know, it's not

2744
01:29:46,389 --> 01:29:47,670
hard to see that, but, you know, I

2745
01:29:47,670 --> 01:29:49,029
would argue that it really just comes down

2746
01:29:49,029 --> 01:29:50,545
to the principle of it Right? It's that

2747
01:29:50,625 --> 01:29:52,944
it's it's to open an airbase forcefully on

2748
01:29:52,944 --> 01:29:54,864
someone else's country violates their sovereignty. Right? It's

2749
01:29:54,864 --> 01:29:57,744
not we pretend what Americans have always thought

2750
01:29:57,744 --> 01:29:59,344
we were what we are, what we're doing.

2751
01:29:59,344 --> 01:30:00,864
You know? So it's it's it's goes back

2752
01:30:00,864 --> 01:30:02,304
to the origin point of what we were

2753
01:30:02,304 --> 01:30:04,000
designed as. If, you know, even if you

2754
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,680
think that was never what they truly intended,

2755
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,280
I believe that there was an origin point

2756
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,360
where it won out in that room discussing

2757
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,119
what we wanted this country to be, and

2758
01:30:11,119 --> 01:30:12,800
that was a republic. Right? And that was

2759
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,360
an idea that we were about defense. Right?

2760
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,260
It was not about

2761
01:30:16,685 --> 01:30:19,025
empire. It was about the as as,

2762
01:30:19,565 --> 01:30:21,005
Bruce points out, the, you know, marching to

2763
01:30:21,005 --> 01:30:22,605
your own drum, like, the idea of the

2764
01:30:22,605 --> 01:30:24,364
thinker and, like, the world and how we

2765
01:30:24,364 --> 01:30:27,405
see, you know, our like, ultimately, we worry

2766
01:30:27,405 --> 01:30:28,925
about our own. We were able to defend

2767
01:30:28,925 --> 01:30:30,685
ourselves. We go to war only if people

2768
01:30:30,685 --> 01:30:32,340
are attacking us. We do not go out

2769
01:30:32,340 --> 01:30:34,579
and look for empire control. And, you know,

2770
01:30:34,579 --> 01:30:36,659
we've long since lost touch with that. I

2771
01:30:36,659 --> 01:30:38,579
mean, we just act like we have to

2772
01:30:38,579 --> 01:30:40,659
because they would come after us. Otherwise, I

2773
01:30:40,659 --> 01:30:42,279
frankly don't even think that's true.

2774
01:30:43,699 --> 01:30:45,460
Well, it might be true now after, well,

2775
01:30:45,460 --> 01:30:47,284
all of the things we've done around the

2776
01:30:47,284 --> 01:30:48,885
world. I mean, you certainly would have the

2777
01:30:48,885 --> 01:30:49,704
the justification

2778
01:30:50,085 --> 01:30:52,244
to do it, but even still, like, we're

2779
01:30:52,244 --> 01:30:54,244
protected on both sides by I mean, the

2780
01:30:54,244 --> 01:30:56,264
the way the way to to get America

2781
01:30:56,324 --> 01:30:56,824
isn't

2782
01:30:57,764 --> 01:30:58,264
an

2783
01:30:59,400 --> 01:30:59,900
armada

2784
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:02,780
pulling up on the coast of Baltimore.

2785
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,400
It's to do it from the inside and

2786
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,119
subvert us internally and to and to weaken

2787
01:31:08,119 --> 01:31:11,159
us culturally and morally and debase our currency

2788
01:31:11,159 --> 01:31:13,664
and to get us thinking differently. And, of

2789
01:31:13,664 --> 01:31:15,344
course, I think a case can be made

2790
01:31:15,344 --> 01:31:17,664
that that we've been conquered, at least on

2791
01:31:17,664 --> 01:31:20,085
some levels by Right. Right. By these forces.

2792
01:31:20,304 --> 01:31:21,204
And because

2793
01:31:21,664 --> 01:31:23,364
because of our geography,

2794
01:31:23,664 --> 01:31:25,425
topography, and amount of,

2795
01:31:26,210 --> 01:31:28,550
straight up military power that we have,

2796
01:31:29,090 --> 01:31:30,850
you can't hit us head on. You have

2797
01:31:30,850 --> 01:31:33,489
to be more subversive about it. And and,

2798
01:31:33,489 --> 01:31:33,989
unfortunately,

2799
01:31:34,369 --> 01:31:35,750
we, the Americans,

2800
01:31:36,850 --> 01:31:38,389
this society, this culture,

2801
01:31:39,135 --> 01:31:41,395
very susceptible to it. And we get manipulated

2802
01:31:41,614 --> 01:31:43,314
very easily, and we've we've allowed

2803
01:31:43,694 --> 01:31:46,654
the barbarians inside the gate. And they have

2804
01:31:46,654 --> 01:31:49,074
changed our society in a way that is

2805
01:31:49,774 --> 01:31:52,255
is, very different than the way our parents

2806
01:31:52,255 --> 01:31:54,789
grew up in. The world is gone. And

2807
01:31:54,789 --> 01:31:56,149
I would argue that that is you know,

2808
01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:58,250
you may interpret that, and I I mean,

2809
01:31:58,710 --> 01:32:00,229
as any number of things. Right? One of

2810
01:32:00,229 --> 01:32:02,149
which could be the idea of immigration and

2811
01:32:02,149 --> 01:32:03,590
how it's changed the country. But that doesn't

2812
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:05,189
make sense with the idea of the original

2813
01:32:05,189 --> 01:32:07,109
mindset of this country. But any of those

2814
01:32:07,109 --> 01:32:07,784
could be weaponized

2815
01:32:08,664 --> 01:32:10,432
of any kind to you know, but the

2816
01:32:10,432 --> 01:32:12,131
point is about the principle and the and

2817
01:32:12,131 --> 01:32:12,985
criminality. Right? You know, at the end of

2818
01:32:12,985 --> 01:32:14,985
the day, we can clearly see where lines

2819
01:32:14,985 --> 01:32:17,145
are crossed. But the moment governments create, like,

2820
01:32:17,145 --> 01:32:19,704
an abstract lens to look through to then

2821
01:32:19,704 --> 01:32:21,539
you it's it's always the wrong step. You

2822
01:32:21,699 --> 01:32:23,539
And I think that's historically been very, very

2823
01:32:23,539 --> 01:32:25,220
clearly proven. But I, you know, I think

2824
01:32:25,220 --> 01:32:27,539
that what we're seeing is the continuation, like

2825
01:32:27,539 --> 01:32:29,380
you're talking about, of the decline of this,

2826
01:32:29,380 --> 01:32:31,220
framing it otherwise. And I just you know,

2827
01:32:31,220 --> 01:32:32,760
we need to get back to first principles.

2828
01:32:32,819 --> 01:32:34,979
It's there really is it let's put it

2829
01:32:34,979 --> 01:32:36,600
this way. It's near

2830
01:32:37,625 --> 01:32:39,744
less less far far less likely for us

2831
01:32:39,744 --> 01:32:40,525
to be manipulated

2832
01:32:40,905 --> 01:32:43,305
if we are erring aggressively on the side

2833
01:32:43,305 --> 01:32:45,164
of what we believe, our principles, our integrity.

2834
01:32:45,225 --> 01:32:46,905
You know, it becomes much more difficult for

2835
01:32:46,905 --> 01:32:48,345
any of them. But, to the end point

2836
01:32:48,345 --> 01:32:49,485
about foreign governments,

2837
01:32:49,850 --> 01:32:51,529
you know, I would argue that even if

2838
01:32:51,529 --> 01:32:52,989
with, like, a government mindset

2839
01:32:53,369 --> 01:32:55,210
thinking, you know, we're now that let's just

2840
01:32:55,210 --> 01:32:56,890
say Americans still voted to get rid of

2841
01:32:56,890 --> 01:32:59,130
our government entirely. The worry the argument is

2842
01:32:59,130 --> 01:33:00,649
that, oh, China will come in and invade

2843
01:33:00,649 --> 01:33:02,270
and conquer. Well, you know, you could argue

2844
01:33:02,409 --> 01:33:03,954
maybe that's been in their attention. You could

2845
01:33:03,954 --> 01:33:05,314
argue that maybe they would wanna do it

2846
01:33:05,314 --> 01:33:07,475
in retaliation. But I I think what we're

2847
01:33:07,715 --> 01:33:09,795
I think that the powers we're dealing with

2848
01:33:09,795 --> 01:33:11,954
today are the responsible entities for why we

2849
01:33:11,954 --> 01:33:13,154
live in the world we do. Not that

2850
01:33:13,234 --> 01:33:14,994
no. That wouldn't ever be somebody that would

2851
01:33:14,994 --> 01:33:16,435
rise back to that and decide to do

2852
01:33:16,435 --> 01:33:17,800
the same thing. But at the end of

2853
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,239
the day, I don't think it's logical to

2854
01:33:19,239 --> 01:33:21,020
think that they would do that for retaliation

2855
01:33:21,159 --> 01:33:22,439
or that it would even be in their

2856
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,439
interest in either sense with what you just

2857
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,119
described. It it you know, it it's in

2858
01:33:26,119 --> 01:33:27,800
a long it's it's ends up if your

2859
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,199
goal is empire and conquering and control, then

2860
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:32,114
it would because you're willing to sacrifice anything.

2861
01:33:32,195 --> 01:33:33,475
The question is, is that what they all

2862
01:33:33,475 --> 01:33:33,975
want?

2863
01:33:34,355 --> 01:33:35,795
Then you could see that's what Israel wants.

2864
01:33:35,795 --> 01:33:36,914
That's very easy. And you could see that

2865
01:33:36,914 --> 01:33:39,315
Israel's through their own actions creating that what

2866
01:33:39,315 --> 01:33:41,555
the American government wants. But I think it's

2867
01:33:41,555 --> 01:33:43,475
worth asking whether that is truly what everybody

2868
01:33:43,475 --> 01:33:45,235
would ultimately seek. And I I would argue

2869
01:33:45,235 --> 01:33:47,039
it's worth finding out at the very least.

2870
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,600
You know? But any final comments for us,

2871
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,359
brother, on the way out? I always appreciate

2872
01:33:51,359 --> 01:33:53,280
coming on here. It's just it's just it's

2873
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,840
a great place to come and and just

2874
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,680
work out some of these ideas because it's

2875
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,119
you know, I reserve the right to change

2876
01:34:01,119 --> 01:34:03,774
my mind about things if I'm presented with

2877
01:34:03,774 --> 01:34:04,594
better information,

2878
01:34:04,895 --> 01:34:06,974
you know. And and and it's so hard

2879
01:34:06,974 --> 01:34:09,375
to know what's what's really going on out

2880
01:34:09,375 --> 01:34:10,574
there. But,

2881
01:34:11,295 --> 01:34:13,694
I think we're I think we've done a

2882
01:34:13,694 --> 01:34:15,074
pretty good job of recognizing,

2883
01:34:16,930 --> 01:34:17,670
the narrative

2884
01:34:18,210 --> 01:34:20,609
crafters and and what they're pushing and and

2885
01:34:20,609 --> 01:34:22,630
why they want it and and the manipulation

2886
01:34:22,770 --> 01:34:24,930
through the media. It's we've gotten, I think,

2887
01:34:24,930 --> 01:34:26,390
better at at recognizing

2888
01:34:27,170 --> 01:34:28,710
this, but it's still a struggle.

2889
01:34:29,025 --> 01:34:30,945
And and ultimately, at the very end, I

2890
01:34:30,945 --> 01:34:32,164
just want to

2891
01:34:34,945 --> 01:34:37,025
I just it just seems so frustrating to

2892
01:34:37,025 --> 01:34:38,485
me, all of the energy

2893
01:34:38,864 --> 01:34:42,064
that we collectively as a society spend on

2894
01:34:42,064 --> 01:34:43,125
all of this nonsense,

2895
01:34:44,340 --> 01:34:44,840
starting

2896
01:34:45,460 --> 01:34:45,960
wars,

2897
01:34:46,579 --> 01:34:49,619
you know, keeping people down, manipulating people. Just

2898
01:34:49,619 --> 01:34:51,939
if a a tenth of this energy was

2899
01:34:51,939 --> 01:34:53,479
focused on, like, I don't know,

2900
01:34:53,780 --> 01:34:55,939
actually improving people's lives. We have all this

2901
01:34:55,939 --> 01:34:57,699
medic we have all this technology and how

2902
01:34:57,699 --> 01:34:59,425
it could be used. What does it get

2903
01:34:59,425 --> 01:35:00,485
used for immediately?

2904
01:35:01,824 --> 01:35:03,905
Military. When it could be used for for

2905
01:35:03,905 --> 01:35:05,284
helping people. It's frustrating

2906
01:35:06,465 --> 01:35:07,925
in that regard. So

2907
01:35:08,625 --> 01:35:09,125
I,

2908
01:35:10,704 --> 01:35:11,765
you know, I I

2909
01:35:12,989 --> 01:35:15,229
I I I watch this world. I feel

2910
01:35:15,229 --> 01:35:15,729
very

2911
01:35:16,989 --> 01:35:19,409
uncomfortable sometimes. I'm trying to be optimistic.

2912
01:35:19,949 --> 01:35:22,109
I think awareness is probably the best, you

2913
01:35:22,109 --> 01:35:24,590
know, the key for us. But, boy, it's,

2914
01:35:25,550 --> 01:35:27,489
you know, next month when we do this,

2915
01:35:28,645 --> 01:35:30,484
I just I'm I worry about, you know,

2916
01:35:30,484 --> 01:35:31,844
what what are we gonna be talking about

2917
01:35:31,844 --> 01:35:34,164
then? Mhmm. It can't be worse. Right? Please

2918
01:35:34,164 --> 01:35:36,005
tell me it can't be worse. Right? It

2919
01:35:36,005 --> 01:35:38,244
can't be it can't they can't still be

2920
01:35:38,244 --> 01:35:40,804
murdering people in Gaza. Right? Next month when

2921
01:35:40,804 --> 01:35:42,164
we do this, please tell me that's not

2922
01:35:42,164 --> 01:35:43,064
gonna be happening.

2923
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:44,489
You know? And so

2924
01:35:44,869 --> 01:35:47,609
I I think some of these topics, because

2925
01:35:47,670 --> 01:35:48,489
they're heavy,

2926
01:35:49,989 --> 01:35:52,010
take a toll on us

2927
01:35:52,469 --> 01:35:55,210
just as observers and imagine the toll

2928
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:58,454
from being there, actually being there. You talk

2929
01:35:58,454 --> 01:36:00,215
to Vanessa Bailey all the time. Right? I

2930
01:36:00,215 --> 01:36:00,715
mean,

2931
01:36:01,015 --> 01:36:02,935
she's as close to it as anybody I

2932
01:36:02,935 --> 01:36:04,154
know, and and

2933
01:36:06,375 --> 01:36:07,034
I can't

2934
01:36:07,734 --> 01:36:09,175
I I mean, I do it such a

2935
01:36:09,175 --> 01:36:11,255
disservice by even trying to imagine what that

2936
01:36:11,255 --> 01:36:13,363
would be like. What an insult, you know,

2937
01:36:13,363 --> 01:36:14,770
to I couldn't imagine.

2938
01:36:16,029 --> 01:36:18,109
But just because I can't be there and

2939
01:36:18,109 --> 01:36:20,189
don't wanna be there and couldn't feel it

2940
01:36:20,189 --> 01:36:21,949
doesn't mean I won't talk about it, you

2941
01:36:21,949 --> 01:36:23,949
know, and do whatever I can do and

2942
01:36:23,949 --> 01:36:25,515
whatever you can do to do it. And

2943
01:36:25,515 --> 01:36:27,195
is it is it enough? No. It's never

2944
01:36:27,195 --> 01:36:29,354
enough. Of course not. But it's it's it's

2945
01:36:29,354 --> 01:36:31,275
something, and it's and it's part of this

2946
01:36:31,275 --> 01:36:33,854
change. It's part of this change in the

2947
01:36:34,155 --> 01:36:36,395
zeitgeist or the just the understanding of where

2948
01:36:36,395 --> 01:36:39,079
we are. Like, some some people are finally

2949
01:36:39,079 --> 01:36:40,920
starting to ask questions. What are we doing

2950
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,600
here? Why why is it like this? It

2951
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,119
doesn't have to be this way. Who is

2952
01:36:44,119 --> 01:36:46,280
ruling over us? Why are we not allowed

2953
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,199
to criticize them, and what does this all

2954
01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:49,100
mean? So,

2955
01:36:49,585 --> 01:36:51,664
hopefully, good things come out of this. Hopefully,

2956
01:36:51,664 --> 01:36:53,984
this is just the hard part, the hard

2957
01:36:53,984 --> 01:36:56,704
awakening where you're still groggy and it all

2958
01:36:56,704 --> 01:36:57,664
feels like a dream. But,

2959
01:36:59,664 --> 01:37:01,264
you know, I'll see you next month, and

2960
01:37:01,264 --> 01:37:02,885
we'll we'll do it all again.

2961
01:37:03,399 --> 01:37:05,159
Absolutely, man. Well, you know, I'll I'll I'll

2962
01:37:05,159 --> 01:37:06,600
end with the thing that I often point

2963
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:07,960
out, which is that, you know, I I

2964
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,880
do already believe that. I believe that this

2965
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:10,380
is,

2966
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,439
you know, it it is a there there

2967
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:13,100
are positive

2968
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,800
outcomes with the fact that people are seeing

2969
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,925
it, calling it out, breaking down these lies,

2970
01:37:18,005 --> 01:37:20,085
those are positive changes in and of themselves.

2971
01:37:20,085 --> 01:37:21,244
Now, look at it this way, and this

2972
01:37:21,244 --> 01:37:22,724
is what plenty of Palestinians have pointed out

2973
01:37:22,724 --> 01:37:23,864
as well. Israel's

2974
01:37:24,324 --> 01:37:25,545
genocidal reaction

2975
01:37:26,885 --> 01:37:28,965
is the consequence of what they're fighting for.

2976
01:37:28,965 --> 01:37:31,304
And the point is that that's Israel's responsibility.

2977
01:37:31,444 --> 01:37:34,010
They committed genocide, but it has awoken the

2978
01:37:34,010 --> 01:37:36,250
world to what's always been happening. Now, nobody

2979
01:37:36,250 --> 01:37:37,689
would have wanted to make that exchange. Like,

2980
01:37:37,689 --> 01:37:39,869
the idea that that's worth it, it's crazy.

2981
01:37:39,930 --> 01:37:41,689
But the point is that to understand that

2982
01:37:41,689 --> 01:37:44,409
regardless of whether it's justified, which is clearly

2983
01:37:44,409 --> 01:37:44,805
not,

2984
01:37:45,685 --> 01:37:47,625
the the the consequence of what they've done

2985
01:37:47,685 --> 01:37:48,185
has

2986
01:37:48,564 --> 01:37:49,064
succeeded

2987
01:37:49,525 --> 01:37:51,364
with with what Palestinians have been trying to

2988
01:37:51,364 --> 01:37:52,805
accomplish for a very long time, which is

2989
01:37:52,805 --> 01:37:54,324
to get the world to pay attention to

2990
01:37:54,324 --> 01:37:55,765
what they've been dealing with. And that is

2991
01:37:55,845 --> 01:37:57,765
that that again, my point was that, you

2992
01:37:57,765 --> 01:37:59,520
know, Israel's reaction could have been different, and

2993
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,039
that's still what the positive thing would have

2994
01:38:01,039 --> 01:38:03,199
been everyone sees this now. Maybe without the

2995
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:04,720
reaction, it would have been different. The point

2996
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,640
though is there's a lot of those positive

2997
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,720
things to see. It's hard to see through

2998
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,715
the lens of an ongoing genocide or any

2999
01:38:10,715 --> 01:38:12,314
other thing we're talking about. Like, as our

3000
01:38:12,314 --> 01:38:14,175
country gets more and more authoritarian,

3001
01:38:14,715 --> 01:38:17,034
it's hard to see the positives that are

3002
01:38:17,034 --> 01:38:18,875
taking place, that people are starting to break

3003
01:38:18,875 --> 01:38:20,875
down these classically held lies. You know, but

3004
01:38:20,875 --> 01:38:22,154
I I just think it's it's worth to

3005
01:38:22,154 --> 01:38:23,630
continue to reflect on that. You know, I

3006
01:38:23,630 --> 01:38:24,670
don't think we're in a world where the

3007
01:38:24,670 --> 01:38:26,510
government's gonna go, oh, you see us. You

3008
01:38:26,510 --> 01:38:28,270
win. It's over. You know, it's not gonna

3009
01:38:28,270 --> 01:38:30,189
happen. They're gonna do they're going to fight

3010
01:38:30,189 --> 01:38:31,869
tooth and nail to make your life as

3011
01:38:31,869 --> 01:38:34,030
hell as hellish as possible to get back

3012
01:38:34,030 --> 01:38:36,109
to where they can control it. So recognize

3013
01:38:36,109 --> 01:38:37,630
that and try to find the positive side

3014
01:38:37,630 --> 01:38:39,364
of of breaking through these things and and

3015
01:38:39,364 --> 01:38:40,725
stand up and fight for it because that's

3016
01:38:40,725 --> 01:38:42,244
what we should be doing. You know? But,

3017
01:38:42,244 --> 01:38:43,445
yeah, I agree. Thank you for being your

3018
01:38:43,445 --> 01:38:45,125
brother, and we'll we'll definitely talk about this

3019
01:38:45,125 --> 01:38:46,645
more. And and I think the more that

3020
01:38:46,645 --> 01:38:48,565
people have these conversations, the more that this

3021
01:38:48,565 --> 01:38:50,324
stuff can, you know it it it makes

3022
01:38:50,324 --> 01:38:52,289
it makes it a little bit more easier

3023
01:38:52,289 --> 01:38:54,470
to endure, to at least try to understand

3024
01:38:54,530 --> 01:38:55,970
why we're we are where we are and

3025
01:38:55,970 --> 01:38:58,530
and, again, why positive momentum is being that.

3026
01:38:58,530 --> 01:39:00,130
So, thanks again, brother. And as always, if

3027
01:39:00,130 --> 01:39:02,369
you're out there, question everything, come to your

3028
01:39:02,369 --> 01:39:03,109
own conclusions.

3029
01:39:03,489 --> 01:39:04,310
Stay vigilant.