1 00:00:23,774 --> 00:00:26,094 Welcome to the Last American Vagabond. Joining me 2 00:00:26,094 --> 00:00:28,130 again for another, I guess, what the hell 3 00:00:28,130 --> 00:00:30,210 is happening episode we've been doing lately between 4 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:32,690 Charlie Robinson and myself to discuss what the 5 00:00:32,690 --> 00:00:34,369 hell is happening, all the madness that's going 6 00:00:34,369 --> 00:00:36,609 on. Been kind of a a recurring discussion 7 00:00:36,609 --> 00:00:38,469 of ours to just kind of go over 8 00:00:39,185 --> 00:00:41,765 the kind of rapid news cycle and the 9 00:00:41,825 --> 00:00:44,225 weird evolution of these stories lately, how things 10 00:00:44,225 --> 00:00:46,064 seem seem to be evolving and our our 11 00:00:46,064 --> 00:00:48,864 opinions around these, you know, sometimes differing, sometimes 12 00:00:48,864 --> 00:00:50,864 the same opinions around these different stories. How 13 00:00:50,864 --> 00:00:52,064 are you, Charlie? Always good to talk to 14 00:00:52,064 --> 00:00:52,469 you, brother. 15 00:00:53,030 --> 00:00:54,649 RIP Cracker Barrel. 16 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:58,070 Right into it. Oh my god. The important 17 00:00:58,070 --> 00:00:59,670 story of Crackle you know, it's so it's 18 00:00:59,670 --> 00:01:01,190 so funny though that the what was it? 19 00:01:01,190 --> 00:01:02,870 Crackle Barrel and then the other one was, 20 00:01:03,190 --> 00:01:05,430 the Land O'Lakes. There's plenty of examples, right, 21 00:01:05,430 --> 00:01:07,590 of the the shift. It's interesting how that's 22 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:09,805 become this you know or even stories like 23 00:01:09,805 --> 00:01:10,864 that become 24 00:01:11,245 --> 00:01:12,924 you know, I honestly don't know what the 25 00:01:13,004 --> 00:01:14,604 is there more around it? Were they pressured? 26 00:01:14,604 --> 00:01:15,805 I don't know. Maybe you can tell me, 27 00:01:15,805 --> 00:01:17,084 but it's just like the idea of these 28 00:01:17,084 --> 00:01:19,885 evolving kind of shifts. It's a woke left 29 00:01:19,885 --> 00:01:21,180 kind of a thing still is what it's 30 00:01:21,180 --> 00:01:23,099 attached to. Right? Like, we're insulted by the 31 00:01:23,099 --> 00:01:24,620 Indian lady or the, you know, whatever it 32 00:01:24,620 --> 00:01:26,379 is. What what have you seen what's what's 33 00:01:26,379 --> 00:01:27,980 your take on it? Like, is there more 34 00:01:27,980 --> 00:01:28,560 of that? 35 00:01:28,939 --> 00:01:30,400 Well, yeah. I I have 36 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:31,840 a a sort of a 37 00:01:32,140 --> 00:01:32,719 a comical 38 00:01:33,355 --> 00:01:35,135 skin in the game in the sense that 39 00:01:35,674 --> 00:01:37,594 the running joke that we all had with 40 00:01:37,594 --> 00:01:39,435 my mom was that she loved Cracker Barrel. 41 00:01:39,435 --> 00:01:41,194 And and then whenever we saw one, we'd 42 00:01:41,194 --> 00:01:42,954 be like, oh my god. There's there's a 43 00:01:43,594 --> 00:01:45,114 should we pull over? Are we are we 44 00:01:45,114 --> 00:01:47,549 good? You know? One of those situations. 45 00:01:48,010 --> 00:01:50,430 And so when it's in the news, 46 00:01:50,730 --> 00:01:52,010 of course, I have to kinda dig in 47 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:53,530 a little bit. And what you find is 48 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:56,430 the usual suspect, they hired some woke left 49 00:01:56,890 --> 00:01:59,229 CEO who decided to 50 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:03,204 reimagine the brand without consulting with their demographics 51 00:02:03,584 --> 00:02:05,524 and getting everything wrong from 52 00:02:05,825 --> 00:02:09,044 botching the logo to the way they've redesigned 53 00:02:09,264 --> 00:02:10,004 the interior. 54 00:02:10,625 --> 00:02:11,125 It's 55 00:02:11,504 --> 00:02:13,584 it's kind of it's part of a kind 56 00:02:13,584 --> 00:02:14,724 of a much bigger. 57 00:02:16,210 --> 00:02:18,530 It's the personification of a much bigger problem, 58 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:21,810 which is that the elitist left believe that 59 00:02:21,810 --> 00:02:24,770 the the people in flyover states are just 60 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:27,650 a bunch of low IQ'd country bumpkins that 61 00:02:27,650 --> 00:02:29,330 need to be told what they're supposed to 62 00:02:29,330 --> 00:02:31,264 like. And so they come in and go, 63 00:02:31,264 --> 00:02:33,104 yeah, yeah, you like this place with the 64 00:02:33,104 --> 00:02:35,504 chachkies all over it and the the crap 65 00:02:35,504 --> 00:02:37,264 on the walls. But we're gonna do away 66 00:02:37,264 --> 00:02:39,264 with that because a decision's been made that 67 00:02:39,264 --> 00:02:40,864 we're cleaning this up. We're gonna go to 68 00:02:40,864 --> 00:02:43,450 a modern logo that some 14 year old 69 00:02:43,450 --> 00:02:44,510 kid with a word 70 00:02:44,890 --> 00:02:46,349 document could have created, 71 00:02:46,650 --> 00:02:48,330 and we're gonna get rid of all the 72 00:02:48,330 --> 00:02:49,550 stuff that you love 73 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:52,730 about this place that you've been coming to 74 00:02:52,730 --> 00:02:54,909 on the side of freeways for the last, 75 00:02:54,969 --> 00:02:56,909 I don't know, fifty years. 76 00:02:57,544 --> 00:02:59,164 We're gonna get rid of all of that 77 00:02:59,384 --> 00:03:01,324 and reimagine it, and then, 78 00:03:02,985 --> 00:03:04,364 and you'll just love it. 79 00:03:05,384 --> 00:03:06,205 So it's 80 00:03:06,824 --> 00:03:08,745 it's being forced on people. You know, it's 81 00:03:08,824 --> 00:03:10,104 is it a big deal? No. It's not. 82 00:03:10,104 --> 00:03:11,504 In the grand scheme of things, it's not 83 00:03:11,504 --> 00:03:14,259 a big deal. But it's it's just one 84 00:03:14,259 --> 00:03:15,959 of those things that you see 85 00:03:17,139 --> 00:03:18,759 that didn't need to be changed, 86 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:20,680 but is being changed 87 00:03:21,699 --> 00:03:24,180 because it kind of reminds people of, like, 88 00:03:24,180 --> 00:03:25,239 the old timey 89 00:03:25,780 --> 00:03:28,604 Americana stuff, and we can't have that. And 90 00:03:28,604 --> 00:03:30,925 it feels, like, it feels like if I 91 00:03:30,925 --> 00:03:32,764 were to be, like, put on my tinfoil 92 00:03:32,764 --> 00:03:34,044 hat a little bit, I mean, it feels 93 00:03:34,044 --> 00:03:35,185 kind of like an agenda 94 00:03:35,485 --> 00:03:36,925 to to get rid of a lot of 95 00:03:36,925 --> 00:03:38,705 Americana type stuff and detach 96 00:03:39,085 --> 00:03:40,625 us from any sort of 97 00:03:41,789 --> 00:03:43,969 pride or any sort of remembrance 98 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:46,110 about the way it used to be. I 99 00:03:46,110 --> 00:03:47,629 mean, it's one thing for to wait for 100 00:03:47,629 --> 00:03:49,150 the boomers to die off, but in the 101 00:03:49,150 --> 00:03:51,250 meantime, they're really trying to kill the culture 102 00:03:51,469 --> 00:03:52,610 surrounding that, 103 00:03:53,069 --> 00:03:54,610 as a as a way of 104 00:03:55,354 --> 00:03:57,454 freeing you from the shackles of America 105 00:03:57,754 --> 00:04:00,555 and and corporatism, of course. But so clearly, 106 00:04:00,555 --> 00:04:02,314 there's an agenda here, and we both agree. 107 00:04:02,314 --> 00:04:03,754 I mean, I agree with you entirely on 108 00:04:03,754 --> 00:04:05,834 on the the you know, and largely, at 109 00:04:05,834 --> 00:04:08,074 least these examples coming from the left very 110 00:04:08,074 --> 00:04:09,580 clearly. Right? And I I wanna ask you 111 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:11,420 about the even the logo about Crackle Barracks. 112 00:04:11,420 --> 00:04:12,700 I think there's a I'm just I'm not 113 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:13,980 sure what the image was. We'll come back 114 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:15,900 to that. But the, you know, the there's 115 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:18,540 clearly an agenda. That's undeniable. But do you 116 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:20,639 do you genuinely think that 117 00:04:21,020 --> 00:04:22,399 not the average people, 118 00:04:22,805 --> 00:04:24,485 you know, whether the people online or even 119 00:04:24,485 --> 00:04:26,324 just people in congress who may think that 120 00:04:26,324 --> 00:04:28,725 it's about some, you know, battle against right 121 00:04:28,725 --> 00:04:30,645 versus left, but from the top, do you 122 00:04:30,645 --> 00:04:32,725 really think that that's what it's about? About 123 00:04:32,725 --> 00:04:35,365 just simply, you know, some, you know, surface 124 00:04:35,365 --> 00:04:37,379 level kind of, like, like, ideological point, or 125 00:04:37,379 --> 00:04:39,379 do you think there's more to that behind 126 00:04:39,379 --> 00:04:40,519 it? Let's leave it there. 127 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:42,360 I think that the CEO 128 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:44,839 is is it's an I is an ideological 129 00:04:45,139 --> 00:04:47,939 zealot. Mhmm. I think she's I think that 130 00:04:47,939 --> 00:04:48,259 there's 131 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:50,774 you know, did they all have a big 132 00:04:50,774 --> 00:04:53,414 meeting? Probably not. But does it come from 133 00:04:53,414 --> 00:04:55,334 the top? Yeah. If they wanna get rid 134 00:04:55,334 --> 00:04:57,894 of this stuff and and reimagine listen. The 135 00:04:57,894 --> 00:05:00,535 Cracker Barrel logo is an old white guy 136 00:05:00,535 --> 00:05:01,274 in, like, 137 00:05:01,654 --> 00:05:04,294 overalls in a rocking chair leaning up against 138 00:05:04,294 --> 00:05:05,194 a a barrel. 139 00:05:05,790 --> 00:05:08,110 Right? Like, if you look at with a 140 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:08,930 one legged 141 00:05:09,470 --> 00:05:10,769 transgendered Eskimo, 142 00:05:11,709 --> 00:05:14,350 then I guess we tick the boxes, but 143 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:16,189 nobody's going to your restaurant after that season. 144 00:05:16,189 --> 00:05:18,589 But see this is my point though. Like 145 00:05:18,589 --> 00:05:21,125 like, I worked at an ad agency. I 146 00:05:21,125 --> 00:05:23,125 understand I at a big one too. And 147 00:05:23,125 --> 00:05:25,044 I understand, like, how much time and effort 148 00:05:25,044 --> 00:05:26,404 goes into thinking about it. Like, they come 149 00:05:26,404 --> 00:05:28,884 at this from every angle. The fact that 150 00:05:28,884 --> 00:05:29,785 the Jaguar 151 00:05:30,245 --> 00:05:31,384 ad came out 152 00:05:31,845 --> 00:05:34,104 made me think this is an agenda. 153 00:05:34,490 --> 00:05:36,350 Because Mhmm. No universe 154 00:05:37,129 --> 00:05:39,050 would people look at that and go, oh, 155 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:40,889 this is exactly what we need to do 156 00:05:40,889 --> 00:05:43,210 to sell cars. Right. Right. Be about more 157 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:45,689 than that. Exactly. Now there's clearly more to 158 00:05:45,689 --> 00:05:47,050 it, which I think we all can see, 159 00:05:47,050 --> 00:05:48,615 but it's like the, like so here's my 160 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:50,375 point. So if there's clearly something more to 161 00:05:50,375 --> 00:05:53,095 it, saying that it's just about or or, 162 00:05:53,095 --> 00:05:54,875 you know, seeing it as just about, 163 00:05:55,735 --> 00:05:56,235 the 164 00:05:56,854 --> 00:05:58,935 woke left point makes it feel like I 165 00:05:58,935 --> 00:06:00,375 mean, how does that I mean, there there 166 00:06:00,454 --> 00:06:02,129 we both agree. There are people that are 167 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:04,610 completely absorbed in this. They believe, you know, 168 00:06:04,610 --> 00:06:06,449 that everything matters about it. You know, woke 169 00:06:06,449 --> 00:06:08,529 pronouns or the world matters more than anything. 170 00:06:08,529 --> 00:06:09,810 But I don't believe that's what the real 171 00:06:09,810 --> 00:06:11,490 agenda is about. Like, to the point about, 172 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:13,009 like so it's not like they went to 173 00:06:13,009 --> 00:06:16,264 some caricature of a, whatever you said, of 174 00:06:16,264 --> 00:06:18,345 one legged trans, whatever you said. Something like 175 00:06:18,345 --> 00:06:19,785 that, which is funny because it makes the 176 00:06:19,785 --> 00:06:22,264 point. But instead, they went very blank. Right? 177 00:06:22,264 --> 00:06:24,264 It's like a Yeah. Symbol. So it's like, 178 00:06:24,264 --> 00:06:25,785 okay. So is it it's not the other 179 00:06:26,024 --> 00:06:27,384 you know, it's not the extreme opposite. It's 180 00:06:27,384 --> 00:06:28,665 sort of, like, somewhere in the middle, which 181 00:06:28,665 --> 00:06:30,409 I still disagree with. But the other side 182 00:06:30,409 --> 00:06:32,490 of it, you've got the Land O'Lakes, like, 183 00:06:32,490 --> 00:06:34,969 the Indian, you know, Native American woman they've 184 00:06:34,969 --> 00:06:36,329 removed. It's, like, same kind of thing. It's, 185 00:06:36,329 --> 00:06:38,169 like, it's not going like, it's weird. So 186 00:06:38,169 --> 00:06:39,389 one side of it's removing, 187 00:06:39,769 --> 00:06:41,769 like, the black caricature, and this one, it's 188 00:06:41,769 --> 00:06:43,504 removing the white caricature. So you see what 189 00:06:43,504 --> 00:06:44,865 I'm saying? It's like it doesn't stick like 190 00:06:44,865 --> 00:06:46,544 it fits in with the idea that it's 191 00:06:46,544 --> 00:06:49,665 left versus right or their ideology versus the 192 00:06:49,665 --> 00:06:51,345 other. It's like kinda what you were hitting 193 00:06:51,345 --> 00:06:53,044 at, more about an all encompassing, 194 00:06:53,824 --> 00:06:55,504 you know, I don't even know how you'd 195 00:06:55,504 --> 00:06:57,185 frame it. Like like you said, like removing 196 00:06:57,185 --> 00:06:59,790 American ideals or, like, classic I don't know. 197 00:06:59,790 --> 00:07:01,189 It's but you get what I'm going at? 198 00:07:01,189 --> 00:07:03,069 I think there's something bigger than that. Oh, 199 00:07:03,069 --> 00:07:04,669 it could have been much worse. They could 200 00:07:04,669 --> 00:07:06,669 have said, we're taking the cracker out of 201 00:07:06,669 --> 00:07:08,769 Cracker Barrel Yeah. With all you honkies. 202 00:07:09,149 --> 00:07:10,829 But that's what it's almost like that should 203 00:07:10,829 --> 00:07:12,350 have been exactly the point. If it was 204 00:07:12,350 --> 00:07:14,055 really about, it's like, no. We like the 205 00:07:14,055 --> 00:07:16,294 we like the derogatory Yeah. Word. Yeah. It 206 00:07:16,294 --> 00:07:18,555 could be look. It could just be a 207 00:07:18,694 --> 00:07:19,354 a a branding 208 00:07:20,214 --> 00:07:23,495 oversight. It could be a woke CEO who's 209 00:07:23,495 --> 00:07:26,134 out of touch with their demographics. How that's 210 00:07:26,134 --> 00:07:28,774 possible? I don't know. I mean, I'm not 211 00:07:29,189 --> 00:07:31,110 I didn't go to Harvard Business School, and 212 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:32,709 I know you needed to figure out what 213 00:07:32,709 --> 00:07:34,870 your demographics are before you start a radical 214 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:35,370 overhaul, 215 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:37,910 and and you and drop the ball. But 216 00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:38,410 but 217 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:41,430 it when it happens over and over and 218 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:42,889 over again, Bud Light, 219 00:07:43,894 --> 00:07:44,394 Jaguar, 220 00:07:45,814 --> 00:07:47,115 Target Gillette. 221 00:07:47,574 --> 00:07:48,074 Gillette. 222 00:07:48,694 --> 00:07:51,254 Over you just keep going. Okay. So I 223 00:07:51,254 --> 00:07:51,754 understand 224 00:07:52,454 --> 00:07:55,735 that there's a BlackRock influence, an ESG component 225 00:07:55,735 --> 00:07:57,334 to this, and maybe they're trying to tick 226 00:07:57,334 --> 00:07:59,279 some diversity boxes, and and that's 227 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:02,259 a very devious way of 228 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:03,699 corporate manipulation, 229 00:08:04,079 --> 00:08:05,459 changing culture through 230 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:06,819 corporate pressure 231 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:07,939 from your 232 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:11,040 board of directors who's run by BlackRock. Quickly. 233 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,560 So here's a point. Like, this is just 234 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:14,194 this is exactly what I'm getting at. So 235 00:08:14,194 --> 00:08:16,295 as opposed to it being a diversity box, 236 00:08:16,595 --> 00:08:17,495 that's the narrative. 237 00:08:17,875 --> 00:08:20,055 BlackRock is doing this as a way to 238 00:08:20,435 --> 00:08:22,995 control your speech or use these mechanisms as 239 00:08:22,995 --> 00:08:25,314 a way to censor and and surveil and, 240 00:08:25,314 --> 00:08:26,915 like, you know, that's kinda what I feel 241 00:08:26,915 --> 00:08:29,210 like the real point is. But, yeah, from 242 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:31,770 left and right, yes, clearly, there are the 243 00:08:31,770 --> 00:08:33,610 the surface level or even the congress level 244 00:08:33,610 --> 00:08:35,610 people that, like, have absorbed and bought into 245 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:36,990 this. But the real agenda, 246 00:08:37,290 --> 00:08:39,290 I don't think they really care about checking 247 00:08:39,290 --> 00:08:41,850 diversity boxes or having to use woke pronouns 248 00:08:41,850 --> 00:08:44,625 or stopping antisemitism, whatever we're talking about, whatever 249 00:08:44,625 --> 00:08:46,644 side. I think it's really at its core 250 00:08:46,784 --> 00:08:48,464 about much more than that. You know what 251 00:08:48,464 --> 00:08:49,424 I mean? And so do you think at 252 00:08:49,424 --> 00:08:50,704 the highest level, that's what it is, or 253 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:52,225 do you believe that it really is just 254 00:08:52,225 --> 00:08:53,605 that they're obsessed with 255 00:08:54,225 --> 00:08:56,485 ideological differ differences? You know? 256 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:59,750 Well, I think all of this at its 257 00:08:59,750 --> 00:09:02,730 core is about control. Yeah. Right. Right. Controls 258 00:09:02,789 --> 00:09:05,750 of speech, control thoughts, control of narratives, control 259 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:06,409 of ideas, 260 00:09:06,789 --> 00:09:07,850 you know, allowing 261 00:09:08,309 --> 00:09:10,309 this is this is the new version of 262 00:09:10,309 --> 00:09:13,205 reality where everybody might be trans. You're like, 263 00:09:13,425 --> 00:09:15,425 I don't wanna feel that way. But if 264 00:09:15,425 --> 00:09:17,605 you go in and every store is reinforcing 265 00:09:17,665 --> 00:09:20,785 this, it it it feels it it it's 266 00:09:20,785 --> 00:09:23,425 artificial. It didn't exist before. It doesn't need 267 00:09:23,425 --> 00:09:25,409 to exist now, and yet here it is. 268 00:09:25,409 --> 00:09:27,089 And you go, why is this happening? This 269 00:09:27,089 --> 00:09:29,329 is and and also, especially when you take 270 00:09:29,329 --> 00:09:30,929 a look at it from, like, a a 271 00:09:30,929 --> 00:09:33,169 business standpoint. Because so much of you know, 272 00:09:33,169 --> 00:09:35,429 they make they spend tons of money making 273 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:38,289 calculations on how do we increase our stock 274 00:09:38,289 --> 00:09:39,730 price by a little bit. And then you 275 00:09:39,730 --> 00:09:40,789 and then you see 276 00:09:41,095 --> 00:09:42,235 some curve ball 277 00:09:42,934 --> 00:09:45,514 that in no possible way 278 00:09:45,975 --> 00:09:47,894 could you ever think this is going to 279 00:09:47,894 --> 00:09:49,754 do anything but have a detrimental 280 00:09:50,774 --> 00:09:53,335 impact on your stock price. As an example, 281 00:09:53,335 --> 00:09:53,835 Target 282 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:55,514 putting tuck pants, 283 00:09:56,139 --> 00:09:57,899 you know, and and and embracing the whole 284 00:09:57,899 --> 00:10:00,459 pride thing. How many tuck pants do you 285 00:10:00,459 --> 00:10:02,559 think you're gonna sell? Mhmm. A 100 286 00:10:03,019 --> 00:10:03,519 nationwide? 287 00:10:03,980 --> 00:10:05,659 How many people do you think you're gonna 288 00:10:05,659 --> 00:10:06,480 piss off? 289 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:08,079 A 100,000? 290 00:10:08,434 --> 00:10:09,714 That's on the low end. You know what 291 00:10:09,714 --> 00:10:11,815 I mean? It's a it's a poor calculation, 292 00:10:11,954 --> 00:10:13,475 and you start looking at things and you 293 00:10:13,475 --> 00:10:15,174 go, guy, you know, like, 294 00:10:15,554 --> 00:10:17,074 you go and get your MBA, and they 295 00:10:17,074 --> 00:10:18,754 teach you how to run a business. And 296 00:10:18,754 --> 00:10:21,299 and I just I promise you, none of 297 00:10:21,299 --> 00:10:23,059 this is happening. And and that's, you know, 298 00:10:23,059 --> 00:10:24,820 that's the bigger point. Right? So that at 299 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:25,940 the end of the day, we have we 300 00:10:25,940 --> 00:10:27,460 have people, like, we I think I don't 301 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:28,420 remember if it's you and I, but I 302 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:30,360 talked about this with somebody that you so 303 00:10:30,580 --> 00:10:31,720 you could explain away 304 00:10:32,259 --> 00:10:33,080 political leanings, 305 00:10:33,554 --> 00:10:35,315 you know, ideological obsession. But when it comes 306 00:10:35,315 --> 00:10:37,815 to, like, the the board, people that shareholders 307 00:10:37,955 --> 00:10:39,634 that, you know, in many cases, don't even 308 00:10:39,634 --> 00:10:41,315 care about the product. That's about, I want 309 00:10:41,315 --> 00:10:43,154 my bottom line. I want my return. And 310 00:10:43,154 --> 00:10:44,754 so how you can argue that they were 311 00:10:44,754 --> 00:10:46,774 sold on that or that these people agreed 312 00:10:46,914 --> 00:10:50,039 with something that is, like, objectively counter to 313 00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:52,200 their business model, like, literally undermine you know, 314 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,399 like, Gillette is the point that I always 315 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:54,679 make more than the rest of them. Just 316 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:56,679 it's it because it's such a male, you 317 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,759 know, demographic, and they went with, like, the 318 00:10:58,759 --> 00:10:59,259 the 319 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:02,459 like, it was, like, bad masculinity or something. 320 00:11:02,634 --> 00:11:04,794 Toxic masculinity. Yeah. It was like it's just 321 00:11:04,794 --> 00:11:06,954 there's no way that they were like, that's 322 00:11:06,954 --> 00:11:08,554 a good business model. So what so what's 323 00:11:08,554 --> 00:11:10,154 the answer? Well, we don't know for sure, 324 00:11:10,154 --> 00:11:12,394 but we know things like DEI or the 325 00:11:12,394 --> 00:11:14,394 background where it said, okay. Look. This is 326 00:11:14,394 --> 00:11:16,315 not even about we're we're changing the entire 327 00:11:16,315 --> 00:11:18,269 model. You don't even need to sell product 328 00:11:18,269 --> 00:11:20,529 anymore. We just need you to sell ideas, 329 00:11:20,590 --> 00:11:22,670 control, and we will then supplement you. We 330 00:11:22,750 --> 00:11:24,429 or rather Yes. You know? What's the word 331 00:11:24,429 --> 00:11:25,629 I'm looking for? Not Subsidize. 332 00:11:26,110 --> 00:11:27,710 Subsidize you. You know? And so that's where 333 00:11:27,710 --> 00:11:29,309 I think and that doesn't even have to 334 00:11:29,309 --> 00:11:30,910 be about DEI or whatever it is. It's 335 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:33,205 just about that control mechanism. It's the same 336 00:11:33,205 --> 00:11:35,125 way I saw with, like, USAID where, you 337 00:11:35,125 --> 00:11:37,445 know, at the end of the day, clearly, 338 00:11:37,524 --> 00:11:39,945 it's we've seen the narratives and the justification 339 00:11:40,325 --> 00:11:41,304 shift under administration, 340 00:11:41,924 --> 00:11:43,205 but, you know, I think it was it 341 00:11:43,284 --> 00:11:44,565 they were they got their foot in the 342 00:11:44,565 --> 00:11:47,410 door using certain woke ideas or funding, you 343 00:11:47,410 --> 00:11:49,250 know, AIDS treatment. By the way, both of 344 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:51,250 which are still happening on Trump administration, people 345 00:11:51,250 --> 00:11:52,610 just don't wanna point to it. You know? 346 00:11:52,610 --> 00:11:54,610 So it's all about really the the agenda. 347 00:11:54,610 --> 00:11:56,129 You know? And so it's like that that 348 00:11:56,129 --> 00:11:58,210 bigger picture, like, what could that possibly be 349 00:11:58,210 --> 00:11:59,430 leading towards? You know? 350 00:11:59,845 --> 00:12:00,664 In your mind. 351 00:12:00,965 --> 00:12:02,424 Continuity of ideas 352 00:12:02,884 --> 00:12:04,965 is what I'm thinking of here. Yeah. You 353 00:12:04,965 --> 00:12:07,845 know? Just to keep this ideology going. And 354 00:12:07,845 --> 00:12:09,125 and and I think you're right on the 355 00:12:09,125 --> 00:12:11,125 DEI front. It's like, how could you get 356 00:12:11,125 --> 00:12:13,445 these corporations to act against their own self 357 00:12:13,445 --> 00:12:15,330 interest when they're so driven 358 00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:18,190 by dollars and cents and profit margins and 359 00:12:18,190 --> 00:12:20,589 things like this? That's how they're trained. And 360 00:12:20,589 --> 00:12:22,830 it has to be an external source. It 361 00:12:22,830 --> 00:12:24,190 has to be, we'll make it up on 362 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:26,269 the back end, or Right. You'll be in 363 00:12:26,269 --> 00:12:27,789 the club. You know, you'll be in the 364 00:12:27,789 --> 00:12:29,169 World Economic Forum 365 00:12:29,794 --> 00:12:31,174 club, circle of 366 00:12:31,554 --> 00:12:33,235 of excellence or whatever it is. You know, 367 00:12:33,235 --> 00:12:34,995 you you'll be in the group. You'll be 368 00:12:34,995 --> 00:12:37,554 the company store. Right? So take a take 369 00:12:37,554 --> 00:12:39,014 a short term hit 370 00:12:39,634 --> 00:12:40,134 now 371 00:12:41,074 --> 00:12:43,074 in order in order to get on our 372 00:12:43,074 --> 00:12:46,990 good side, we, BlackRock slash World Economic Forum, 373 00:12:47,289 --> 00:12:49,370 inseparable at this point now with Larry Fink's 374 00:12:49,370 --> 00:12:50,590 promotion. Yep. 375 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:52,190 And you do 376 00:12:53,450 --> 00:12:55,710 you slit your own you slit your wrists 377 00:12:56,009 --> 00:12:58,294 a little bit here. Right? Maybe not your 378 00:12:58,294 --> 00:13:00,294 throat, but your wrist. And you and and 379 00:13:00,294 --> 00:13:01,975 we'll we'll patch you up on the other 380 00:13:01,975 --> 00:13:03,514 end, but you'll be in the club, 381 00:13:04,535 --> 00:13:06,794 and we'll lock everybody else out. 382 00:13:07,095 --> 00:13:09,335 And you'll have no competition. Right. Right. So 383 00:13:09,495 --> 00:13:11,174 but we need you we need you to 384 00:13:11,174 --> 00:13:13,399 show us that you're on board with this. 385 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:15,080 And and this is as you said, it's 386 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,240 not it's not about selling razors. It's about 387 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,559 selling an ideology. It's about selling the concept 388 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,639 that, well, maybe men are yeah. They like 389 00:13:21,639 --> 00:13:24,299 to shave, but maybe they're also toxic too. 390 00:13:24,545 --> 00:13:25,365 And you go, 391 00:13:25,745 --> 00:13:29,585 god, why would you ever do that to 392 00:13:29,585 --> 00:13:32,384 your to your audience? This is your your 393 00:13:32,384 --> 00:13:33,365 customer base 394 00:13:33,745 --> 00:13:36,144 is just completely made up of men and 395 00:13:36,144 --> 00:13:38,004 are insulted and it just 396 00:13:38,490 --> 00:13:40,889 immediate there's you just shake your head and 397 00:13:40,889 --> 00:13:42,490 you go, this will be taught in business 398 00:13:42,490 --> 00:13:45,950 school for eons. Right? Do not do this, 399 00:13:46,009 --> 00:13:47,870 this, or this. Right? And yet 400 00:13:48,730 --> 00:13:50,730 and yet you think that people would learn 401 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:52,250 from the Bud Light treatment, and yet here 402 00:13:52,250 --> 00:13:52,830 we are. 403 00:13:53,134 --> 00:13:54,894 Yeah. But, again, which is even more so 404 00:13:54,894 --> 00:13:57,294 speaks to the it's far more than about 405 00:13:57,294 --> 00:13:59,695 the current ideological point they're using, you know, 406 00:13:59,695 --> 00:14:01,615 which still is involved. But so, like, same 407 00:14:01,615 --> 00:14:03,054 kind of point. Like, so we it's clear 408 00:14:03,054 --> 00:14:05,214 that this is it's just absurd. You know, 409 00:14:05,214 --> 00:14:07,075 the idea that these things are that 410 00:14:07,769 --> 00:14:09,850 from a business or individual, whatever it is, 411 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:11,610 that this is even driving people's actions. And 412 00:14:11,610 --> 00:14:12,970 I think we can all acknowledge that the 413 00:14:12,970 --> 00:14:14,889 woke left side of it is just the 414 00:14:14,889 --> 00:14:16,970 most transparent part. You know, it's just very, 415 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:17,789 very obvious. 416 00:14:18,169 --> 00:14:20,429 But people are beginning to recognize, 417 00:14:20,825 --> 00:14:21,945 I think, have for a long time, but 418 00:14:21,945 --> 00:14:24,345 more so today than usual, the same problem 419 00:14:24,345 --> 00:14:25,784 from the right side of it. So and 420 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:27,384 at least from your perspective, I could give 421 00:14:27,384 --> 00:14:29,544 examples, but do you see that kind of 422 00:14:29,544 --> 00:14:31,705 thing in the reverse way coming from the 423 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:33,225 right? Like, do you have any examples you 424 00:14:33,225 --> 00:14:34,044 could think of? 425 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,279 Yeah. I mean, I think that the left 426 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:38,259 is more cartoonish 427 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:39,699 in their 428 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,820 in their, 429 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,500 belief system. 430 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:46,000 And the but the the right shows classic 431 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,519 signs of this as well. Like, they they 432 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:49,379 make excuses for their guy. 433 00:14:49,855 --> 00:14:51,875 They they they look the other way. 434 00:14:52,254 --> 00:14:52,754 They, 435 00:14:54,335 --> 00:14:56,414 they they fall into traps all the time. 436 00:14:56,414 --> 00:14:58,254 I mean, one of the one of the 437 00:14:58,254 --> 00:14:59,934 prime examples, you don't see this on the 438 00:14:59,934 --> 00:15:01,455 left at all, but you you certainly see 439 00:15:01,455 --> 00:15:04,029 it on the right, is the concept of 440 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:04,929 Christian Zionism. 441 00:15:05,309 --> 00:15:07,470 Mhmm. If ever there was just, like, a 442 00:15:07,470 --> 00:15:09,389 group of people that you go, oh, oh, 443 00:15:09,389 --> 00:15:11,149 oh, wait. Hang on a second. All of 444 00:15:11,149 --> 00:15:13,009 you are under some form of mind control. 445 00:15:13,070 --> 00:15:14,509 You need to snap out of it. Like, 446 00:15:14,509 --> 00:15:16,269 you know that stuff you accuse the left 447 00:15:16,269 --> 00:15:16,929 of being? 448 00:15:17,355 --> 00:15:19,674 This is your this is a version of 449 00:15:19,674 --> 00:15:22,154 it. Like, you're in some form of group 450 00:15:22,154 --> 00:15:23,834 thinker. You need to break away, and you 451 00:15:23,834 --> 00:15:26,394 can't you can't see that your leaders are 452 00:15:26,394 --> 00:15:29,995 cartoon character preachers that are with megachurches, and 453 00:15:29,995 --> 00:15:31,534 the whole thing feels very, 454 00:15:33,490 --> 00:15:36,149 righteous gemstones to me. And, you know, and 455 00:15:36,210 --> 00:15:36,710 and 456 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:38,930 and and yet you you can't get their 457 00:15:38,930 --> 00:15:40,769 attention. You feel like they're under a spell. 458 00:15:40,769 --> 00:15:42,290 The same way you wanna shake the left 459 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:43,889 and go, what are you doing? Why are 460 00:15:43,889 --> 00:15:44,389 you 461 00:15:45,009 --> 00:15:47,605 doing all these things that are incompatible with 462 00:15:47,605 --> 00:15:49,625 reality? You know, like, are you 463 00:15:50,164 --> 00:15:52,725 I do like are you subverted in some 464 00:15:52,725 --> 00:15:55,225 way? Are you captured mentally? Or is this 465 00:15:55,365 --> 00:15:57,285 the what Yuri Bezmenov talked about? I mean, 466 00:15:57,285 --> 00:15:58,725 have you been broken to a point where 467 00:15:58,725 --> 00:16:00,325 you can't be fixed? Like some of all 468 00:16:00,325 --> 00:16:02,330 of it. Yeah. In the but the right 469 00:16:02,330 --> 00:16:04,490 has their own flavor of it. And and 470 00:16:04,490 --> 00:16:06,889 and it's and it it has its hero 471 00:16:06,889 --> 00:16:11,070 worship, you know, of in in embarrassing fashion. 472 00:16:11,450 --> 00:16:12,350 It's authoritarian 473 00:16:12,649 --> 00:16:14,350 worship. Yeah. Get John Bolton. 474 00:16:14,649 --> 00:16:16,684 Go kick his door in at six in 475 00:16:16,684 --> 00:16:19,424 the morning. Listen. I I despise John Bolton. 476 00:16:19,964 --> 00:16:22,284 But the idea of the state using this 477 00:16:22,524 --> 00:16:24,125 here we go. It's like you've gotta be 478 00:16:24,125 --> 00:16:24,625 ideologically 479 00:16:25,884 --> 00:16:28,524 consistent here. If you're against it when it's 480 00:16:28,524 --> 00:16:29,345 done to 481 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,860 Roger Stone, not because you love Roger Stone, 482 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:33,779 but you think he's gross too, but but 483 00:16:33,779 --> 00:16:35,700 just because it's a it's it shouldn't be 484 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:38,440 happening. Yeah. You don't get to then enthusiastically 485 00:16:38,980 --> 00:16:41,379 cheerlead when it happens to John Bolton just 486 00:16:41,379 --> 00:16:43,220 because he's the war walrus and you and 487 00:16:43,220 --> 00:16:44,504 you think that he deserves it. Yeah. I 488 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:46,745 think he deserves something like that too, but 489 00:16:46,745 --> 00:16:48,584 I don't want the state to be the 490 00:16:48,584 --> 00:16:50,184 ones doing it. I want him to be 491 00:16:50,184 --> 00:16:51,245 his next door neighbors. 492 00:16:51,704 --> 00:16:53,544 Yeah. Well and I I would argue more 493 00:16:53,544 --> 00:16:56,345 so, like, maybe less ideological as as just 494 00:16:56,345 --> 00:16:58,540 principle. You know what I mean? Like, logical 495 00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:00,179 is, like, you know, the side versus side, 496 00:17:00,179 --> 00:17:01,940 but but I agree. It's like, if you 497 00:17:01,940 --> 00:17:03,379 if you care about the idea that it 498 00:17:03,379 --> 00:17:04,980 shouldn't matter who it's being done to, it 499 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:06,500 should be wrong in principle. You know? And 500 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:08,259 it's like, that's what's so frustrating. But, you 501 00:17:08,259 --> 00:17:09,539 know, even bigger than that too, though, you 502 00:17:09,539 --> 00:17:11,654 know, the idea, it's it's the same kind 503 00:17:11,654 --> 00:17:12,154 of, 504 00:17:12,534 --> 00:17:15,335 model, you know, whether it's about antisemitism or 505 00:17:15,335 --> 00:17:16,774 even just the overlap which we can get 506 00:17:16,774 --> 00:17:18,615 into around, you know, like you said, the 507 00:17:18,615 --> 00:17:20,394 good just broad church authoritarianism, 508 00:17:20,774 --> 00:17:23,034 but, like, worship. It's weird. Like, there's overlap 509 00:17:23,179 --> 00:17:24,799 whether it's DC, the constitutional 510 00:17:25,099 --> 00:17:26,940 discussions. You know? And so it's like they 511 00:17:26,940 --> 00:17:27,679 have these, 512 00:17:28,299 --> 00:17:30,720 you know, mechanisms through which they can they 513 00:17:30,779 --> 00:17:32,539 see that it's easier to make the things 514 00:17:32,539 --> 00:17:33,579 they want to move. And I think it 515 00:17:33,579 --> 00:17:35,515 happens on both sides of the paradigm for 516 00:17:35,515 --> 00:17:38,394 an a a a joint goal, ultimately. You 517 00:17:38,394 --> 00:17:40,234 know? And so let let's well, actually, one 518 00:17:40,234 --> 00:17:41,434 more thing before we I wanted to talk 519 00:17:41,434 --> 00:17:42,794 about some partisan stuff that I had just 520 00:17:42,875 --> 00:17:44,875 I thought was interesting. You mentioned BlackRock. I 521 00:17:44,875 --> 00:17:47,194 want your thoughts on this. It's really interesting. 522 00:17:47,194 --> 00:17:48,750 So now that now that, you know, the 523 00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:50,990 head now head of the WEF, right, which 524 00:17:50,990 --> 00:17:51,490 is 525 00:17:51,789 --> 00:17:52,609 not surprising, 526 00:17:52,910 --> 00:17:54,990 but what's what is very weird to me 527 00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:57,950 is how how completely immersed BlackRock is with 528 00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:59,089 the Trump administration, 529 00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:00,750 just like the last time, by the way, 530 00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:03,224 with the COVID nineteen overlap, as well as, 531 00:18:03,464 --> 00:18:04,904 you know, like, even like a Bill Gates 532 00:18:04,904 --> 00:18:07,625 character who's also very much overlapped with Fink 533 00:18:07,625 --> 00:18:09,865 in many ways and how Palantir is overlapped 534 00:18:09,865 --> 00:18:11,625 with all. That's different point. The point is 535 00:18:11,625 --> 00:18:14,904 just BlackRock and the obvious concern that mostly 536 00:18:14,904 --> 00:18:17,840 conservatives have around that, but how it doesn't 537 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,700 seem to matter when it is 538 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,920 like, you know, the WEF Trump overlap. Like, 539 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,360 how does that not just spin this whole 540 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:24,960 thing out? You know? It's it's very weird 541 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,000 how clear that is. What do you think 542 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,080 about that? And and kind of choosing to 543 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,525 ignore it. Yeah. It's, well, I just recorded 544 00:18:30,585 --> 00:18:32,904 an episode for macroaggressions that'll go out next 545 00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:33,884 week about, 546 00:18:34,424 --> 00:18:36,045 the dark heart of the financial 547 00:18:36,744 --> 00:18:39,224 system, which is BlackRock. And and and when 548 00:18:39,224 --> 00:18:41,305 you dig into what they really own I 549 00:18:41,305 --> 00:18:42,825 mean, you know, people say, like, oh, they 550 00:18:42,825 --> 00:18:44,605 own everything, and you go, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 551 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:45,850 But to 552 00:18:46,309 --> 00:18:48,170 be a to be point 553 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:50,410 01% 554 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:51,769 of their portfolio 555 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:54,309 means that they've got at least a billion 556 00:18:54,309 --> 00:18:56,230 and a half dollars invested in your company. 557 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:58,630 That's insane. Staggering the amount of money that 558 00:18:58,630 --> 00:19:01,244 they have. They have 12 and a half 559 00:19:01,244 --> 00:19:03,904 trillion dollars of assets under management 560 00:19:04,525 --> 00:19:06,065 as of this quarter. 561 00:19:07,644 --> 00:19:08,865 So it and growing 562 00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:11,505 at at rates that are staggering. 563 00:19:12,045 --> 00:19:14,759 They were $9,000,000,000,000, 564 00:19:15,539 --> 00:19:16,740 in 2023, 565 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:18,420 just to put it in perspective. So we're 566 00:19:18,420 --> 00:19:20,599 talking about a 33% 567 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,519 growth in just two years 568 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:26,259 when you're already at $9,000,000,000,000 569 00:19:26,259 --> 00:19:30,164 under management. And you're growing at startup rates. 570 00:19:30,305 --> 00:19:32,705 That's so insane. It just becomes So insane. 571 00:19:32,705 --> 00:19:34,384 The the idea of that money like, have 572 00:19:34,384 --> 00:19:35,585 you ever seen one of those videos that 573 00:19:35,585 --> 00:19:37,744 do, like, the visualization of money? Yes. Like, 574 00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:39,505 once you get past, like, a like, so 575 00:19:39,505 --> 00:19:41,424 many million, like, your brain can't even really 576 00:19:41,664 --> 00:19:43,585 it just becomes like this they just blends 577 00:19:43,585 --> 00:19:45,789 together. Oh, you built trillions. You know? It's 578 00:19:45,789 --> 00:19:47,710 like it's just it's you can't even really 579 00:19:47,710 --> 00:19:49,069 understand it. You know? That's why it's why 580 00:19:49,069 --> 00:19:50,509 it's called a shadow bank. That's what's so 581 00:19:50,509 --> 00:19:52,109 weird about it is that it's literally called 582 00:19:52,109 --> 00:19:54,029 a shadow bank. It is it is it's 583 00:19:54,029 --> 00:19:56,029 basically the US government finances at this point. 584 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:58,234 You know? It's just so wild. But so 585 00:19:58,234 --> 00:20:00,414 it's it's very alarming to me. We can, 586 00:20:00,555 --> 00:20:02,154 you know, be talking about the great reset. 587 00:20:02,154 --> 00:20:03,674 We can watch how all of this is 588 00:20:03,674 --> 00:20:05,835 just completely fully arched back to where they're 589 00:20:05,835 --> 00:20:08,075 running out the great reset. And maybe it's 590 00:20:08,075 --> 00:20:10,869 with, like, a barely different PR campaign. You 591 00:20:10,869 --> 00:20:12,390 know? It's in a little bit different slant. 592 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:14,390 And now Fink is is head of the 593 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:16,390 WEF and and and now pushing out more 594 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:18,149 and more about the same future, and now 595 00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:19,509 he's you know, it's just it's just I 596 00:20:19,509 --> 00:20:22,069 think I'm shocked to see how few people 597 00:20:22,069 --> 00:20:24,630 have made those dots connect. I'm actually really 598 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:25,130 really 599 00:20:25,505 --> 00:20:27,345 feeling good about how many people are choosing 600 00:20:27,345 --> 00:20:29,265 to call out, like, the Epstein cover up, 601 00:20:29,265 --> 00:20:30,545 call out a lot of this stuff. But 602 00:20:30,545 --> 00:20:32,065 that one to me is just like that 603 00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:33,765 needs to happen. Like, we need to recognize 604 00:20:33,825 --> 00:20:35,345 that this is in full blow. I mean, 605 00:20:35,345 --> 00:20:36,384 what do you think about that? Do you 606 00:20:36,384 --> 00:20:39,025 think the great reset is being completely executed 607 00:20:39,025 --> 00:20:40,305 right now, or or is there something different 608 00:20:40,305 --> 00:20:40,805 happening? 609 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,640 Well, when you've got build back better and 610 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,880 you rebrand it with with a big beautiful 611 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,279 bill Right. It feels like you're using the 612 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:49,180 same ad agency 613 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,039 to to deliver the message. Yeah. It's hard 614 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:53,019 not to see that. 615 00:20:53,434 --> 00:20:56,575 So, I mean, when when you know 616 00:20:57,755 --> 00:20:58,255 that 617 00:20:58,875 --> 00:21:01,355 both of these red team, blue teams are 618 00:21:01,355 --> 00:21:03,934 the same team, when you understand that, then 619 00:21:05,115 --> 00:21:08,069 it all makes way more sense. Mhmm. So 620 00:21:08,069 --> 00:21:10,309 the idea that, like, well, here comes the 621 00:21:10,309 --> 00:21:12,230 here comes the red team. Well, what are 622 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:14,089 they gonna do? Well, they're gonna do something 623 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:17,109 kinda similar, but it's gonna be it's gonna 624 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:18,809 have red team terminology. 625 00:21:19,505 --> 00:21:21,345 It's gonna have their ad. It's gonna have 626 00:21:21,345 --> 00:21:23,265 all their stars in it. Like, it's gonna 627 00:21:23,265 --> 00:21:25,265 be geared more towards them because they're the 628 00:21:25,265 --> 00:21:27,265 winners. So so this time, we're gonna we're 629 00:21:27,265 --> 00:21:29,664 still doing the same stuff. It's just a 630 00:21:29,664 --> 00:21:31,744 different flavor. It's Coke or Pepsi. And and 631 00:21:31,744 --> 00:21:34,529 and so the tyranny in fact, if you 632 00:21:34,529 --> 00:21:35,910 wanna sell the tyranny 633 00:21:36,610 --> 00:21:38,610 that the people on the red team would 634 00:21:38,610 --> 00:21:41,009 rightly call out, then you're you're gonna need 635 00:21:41,009 --> 00:21:43,250 your guy to do it. Because he's because 636 00:21:43,250 --> 00:21:46,130 you can't have the opposite guy try to 637 00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:48,704 sell the it just doesn't work that way. 638 00:21:49,005 --> 00:21:51,325 You've gotta have your guys. So so what 639 00:21:51,325 --> 00:21:54,784 the Trumpers didn't realize was that when he 640 00:21:54,924 --> 00:21:55,424 won, 641 00:21:55,964 --> 00:21:58,204 then what that meant was that they were 642 00:21:58,204 --> 00:22:00,519 gonna get a whole bunch of things coming 643 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:02,599 their way that were going to be against 644 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:04,519 their own self interest, but they were gonna 645 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:05,980 be made to support it 646 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:09,079 because their guy was there. So if if 647 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:10,759 the Democrats, you know, all broke down and 648 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:12,759 cried, you know, when when Trump got in 649 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,075 again. But if they understood the plan, they 650 00:22:15,075 --> 00:22:16,434 would what they would see is that for 651 00:22:16,434 --> 00:22:18,115 the next four years, they're actually gonna get 652 00:22:18,115 --> 00:22:20,355 probably a little bit of a break while 653 00:22:20,355 --> 00:22:21,174 he targets 654 00:22:21,714 --> 00:22:22,695 the the conservatives 655 00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:24,535 and removes their rights 656 00:22:24,994 --> 00:22:27,590 and does the things that that oh, had 657 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:29,070 Obama done it, he would have been caught 658 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:31,670 how Joe Biden or whoever that was done 659 00:22:31,670 --> 00:22:32,650 it or Kamala. 660 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:34,869 There would have been, you know, there would 661 00:22:34,869 --> 00:22:36,549 have been locked and loaded, ready to go. 662 00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:39,210 But but because it's their guy Mhmm. 663 00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:42,914 They they all put their guard down. They 664 00:22:42,914 --> 00:22:45,234 allow that Trojan horse to be brought inside 665 00:22:45,234 --> 00:22:47,154 the gates, and then they get the World 666 00:22:47,154 --> 00:22:49,154 Economic Forum in the form of Larry Fink. 667 00:22:49,154 --> 00:22:50,835 Well, you were gonna get the World Economic 668 00:22:50,835 --> 00:22:53,954 Forum either way. Right. Didn't really matter. You 669 00:22:53,954 --> 00:22:56,500 just got it this time, but but now 670 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,460 he's Trump's guy because of, I don't know, 671 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:00,680 Lutnick or something. 672 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:02,980 I don't I don't know. Yeah. He did 673 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,700 Many, many different overlapping points. But yeah. I 674 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:07,059 guess I guess more what I'm asking is, 675 00:23:07,059 --> 00:23:08,420 do you think that the great reset as 676 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:10,455 it was laid out is actually still happening, 677 00:23:10,455 --> 00:23:12,513 or do you think they've deviated from the 678 00:23:12,513 --> 00:23:14,572 the, you know, bigger plan? Because that that 679 00:23:14,572 --> 00:23:16,630 happens. You know, we've seen it. We've seen 680 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:18,688 them shift entirely to something new at least 681 00:23:18,688 --> 00:23:20,746 momentarily. So do you think that's still what's 682 00:23:20,746 --> 00:23:23,250 happening, or are they gonna shift? Well, define 683 00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:26,210 the great reset then exactly because Yeah. I 684 00:23:26,210 --> 00:23:27,410 mean, I mean, the like, the I guess, 685 00:23:27,410 --> 00:23:29,410 the the the campaign that was laid out. 686 00:23:29,410 --> 00:23:31,170 Right? Like, the like, the all the different 687 00:23:31,170 --> 00:23:33,009 market the points that of the great reset 688 00:23:33,009 --> 00:23:34,450 laid out by Klaus Schwab, you know, the 689 00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:36,609 fourth industrial revolution, you know, all of that 690 00:23:36,609 --> 00:23:37,924 kinda stuff. Like, do you think that's, like, 691 00:23:37,924 --> 00:23:40,085 an earnest still marching forward, or are we 692 00:23:40,244 --> 00:23:41,365 or or is it maybe that was the 693 00:23:41,365 --> 00:23:42,805 head fake itself? You know? What do you 694 00:23:42,805 --> 00:23:43,305 think? 695 00:23:44,085 --> 00:23:44,984 Well, I think 696 00:23:45,285 --> 00:23:47,525 in Europe, they're for sure got getting the 697 00:23:47,525 --> 00:23:50,005 World Economic Forum treatment. I think that with 698 00:23:50,005 --> 00:23:51,224 Trump, he's probably 699 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:53,359 less enthusiastic 700 00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:55,339 about it, but I don't think that he 701 00:23:55,339 --> 00:23:55,839 has 702 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:58,700 a a say ultimately in this. I think 703 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:00,799 that when when you're talking about 704 00:24:02,539 --> 00:24:05,279 the the the the this globalist group, 705 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:06,799 it's it's 706 00:24:08,115 --> 00:24:09,815 it's it's all it's settled in boardrooms 707 00:24:10,275 --> 00:24:13,174 Mhmm. More so than than in Washington, DC. 708 00:24:13,394 --> 00:24:14,775 You know, once they've incorporated 709 00:24:15,715 --> 00:24:16,695 the the major, 710 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,855 corporations of the world with the interlocking 711 00:24:21,154 --> 00:24:23,099 boards of directors, and then you bring the 712 00:24:23,099 --> 00:24:25,339 granddaddy of them all, BlackRock, in and have 713 00:24:25,339 --> 00:24:28,000 their head guy sit down and drive policy. 714 00:24:28,539 --> 00:24:30,640 My my guess is that it it will 715 00:24:30,859 --> 00:24:32,859 continue, but it just might look a little 716 00:24:32,859 --> 00:24:35,039 bit differently. It might it might not be, 717 00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:37,039 you know, the overt bad guy, 718 00:24:38,225 --> 00:24:40,865 Klaus Schwab with the with the German accent 719 00:24:40,865 --> 00:24:43,664 and the space suits that he wears, but 720 00:24:43,664 --> 00:24:45,745 but it's it could be more like, you 721 00:24:45,745 --> 00:24:46,245 know, 722 00:24:47,505 --> 00:24:50,164 it it's definitely gonna be as bad, probably 723 00:24:50,225 --> 00:24:52,349 even worse with Larry Fink, but it'll be 724 00:24:52,349 --> 00:24:54,430 handled in, you know, through these interlocking boards 725 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:56,930 of directors where where all the major decisions 726 00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:57,650 are made. 727 00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:58,430 And, 728 00:24:59,309 --> 00:25:01,710 and and whether Trump wants it or doesn't 729 00:25:01,710 --> 00:25:03,869 want it, I think this is above his 730 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:04,605 pay grade. 731 00:25:05,085 --> 00:25:06,204 Yeah. That's a good point too. Is it 732 00:25:06,204 --> 00:25:08,605 kinda does now slant the flavor towards more 733 00:25:08,605 --> 00:25:10,285 of the what we're seeing a lot of 734 00:25:10,285 --> 00:25:12,605 actually. There's, like, the CEO run country, the 735 00:25:12,765 --> 00:25:15,804 Yeah. CEO run Liberty Freedom City that's actually 736 00:25:15,804 --> 00:25:17,724 a technocratic nightmare. You know? It's like it's 737 00:25:17,804 --> 00:25:19,589 I so maybe that's the new push. We're 738 00:25:19,589 --> 00:25:21,349 selling it to you as the a CEO 739 00:25:21,349 --> 00:25:23,910 run version that'll be business wise. You know, 740 00:25:23,910 --> 00:25:25,750 it's like it's just it's interesting even though 741 00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:27,509 that's clearly not even what's happening. More spending, 742 00:25:27,509 --> 00:25:29,750 bigger government. You know, it's frustrating. But, yeah, 743 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:31,429 I I I personally, I think it's very 744 00:25:31,429 --> 00:25:33,910 much still happening. Like, the the very plan, 745 00:25:33,910 --> 00:25:35,974 you know, but just slightly different framing. But 746 00:25:35,974 --> 00:25:37,734 I guess we're gonna see how it plays 747 00:25:37,734 --> 00:25:39,575 out. Yeah. But you you mentioned, 748 00:25:40,214 --> 00:25:42,214 John Bolton. So I think this is interesting. 749 00:25:42,214 --> 00:25:44,534 Just a couple overlaps on this. Rating the 750 00:25:44,534 --> 00:25:46,454 whole of John Bolton, which is just on 751 00:25:46,454 --> 00:25:48,294 its face interesting because I I think it's 752 00:25:48,294 --> 00:25:50,394 funny to see how the, you know, the 753 00:25:51,339 --> 00:25:52,779 what what the word they use? Just the 754 00:25:52,779 --> 00:25:54,460 the the the friends of the past become 755 00:25:54,460 --> 00:25:55,740 the enemies of today. You know, it's, like, 756 00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:57,659 constantly off like that, you know, where he 757 00:25:57,659 --> 00:25:59,500 was the team player. Him and Bill Barr 758 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,019 were gonna save the world, and then suddenly 759 00:26:01,019 --> 00:26:02,859 now they're the monsters. But, like, you're you 760 00:26:02,859 --> 00:26:04,380 already addressed this, and I agree. I think 761 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:06,674 it's wildly inconsistent. And just the idea of 762 00:26:06,674 --> 00:26:07,335 the authoritarianism 763 00:26:07,714 --> 00:26:09,794 itself, like, what's happening here. Do you I 764 00:26:09,794 --> 00:26:11,794 haven't gone into this in-depth. What's the what's 765 00:26:11,794 --> 00:26:13,474 the argument, do you know, of why they 766 00:26:13,554 --> 00:26:14,375 I don't know. 767 00:26:14,994 --> 00:26:16,755 I haven't looked at it. Right now, but 768 00:26:16,755 --> 00:26:17,714 I haven't got a chance to look at 769 00:26:17,714 --> 00:26:18,214 it. 770 00:26:18,515 --> 00:26:20,130 You know what I mean? If you're if 771 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:22,289 we're talking about, like, what crimes could John 772 00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:24,450 Bolton be arrested on, I Right. I would 773 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:26,930 imagine there's a variety of them. But in 774 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:28,769 terms of what they're looking at right now, 775 00:26:28,769 --> 00:26:31,089 why today as opposed to last week or 776 00:26:31,089 --> 00:26:32,954 three weeks from now? I don't know. That 777 00:26:33,034 --> 00:26:34,554 I I did read this earlier. If they're 778 00:26:34,554 --> 00:26:36,794 claiming or they're they're part of a larger 779 00:26:36,794 --> 00:26:38,714 search for classified records, does that become, like, 780 00:26:38,714 --> 00:26:40,954 the the the catch all these days? Classified 781 00:26:40,954 --> 00:26:42,154 records, you know, and then no one ever 782 00:26:42,154 --> 00:26:43,914 gets in trouble for anything. It's but then 783 00:26:43,914 --> 00:26:45,515 now but see, here's where it gets interesting. 784 00:26:45,515 --> 00:26:46,174 The narrative 785 00:26:46,529 --> 00:26:48,289 becomes that it's more than that. Even though 786 00:26:48,289 --> 00:26:49,890 there's nothing to go on, and that's what 787 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:50,789 I find interesting. 788 00:26:51,730 --> 00:26:52,549 Excuse me. 789 00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:55,170 Alice Jones says DOJ sources, which, you know, 790 00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:57,170 his quote, unquote DOJ sources have been wrong 791 00:26:57,170 --> 00:26:59,170 more often than not, say more raids are 792 00:26:59,170 --> 00:27:00,710 coming ahead of dozens of indictments. 793 00:27:01,214 --> 00:27:03,294 So, you know, I I I don't this 794 00:27:03,294 --> 00:27:05,214 feels a lot more like we keep the 795 00:27:05,214 --> 00:27:06,974 whole queue thing. But, I mean, I think 796 00:27:06,974 --> 00:27:08,494 we both agree up to your point actually 797 00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:11,134 before. There's so many crimes you can arrest 798 00:27:11,134 --> 00:27:12,974 these people for, but you do, then you 799 00:27:12,974 --> 00:27:14,575 open the the box for all of them. 800 00:27:14,575 --> 00:27:15,855 You know, Trump was in there when he 801 00:27:15,855 --> 00:27:17,429 was doing these things. I mean, they're all 802 00:27:17,429 --> 00:27:18,950 war criminals. You know? So I doubt that's 803 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:20,549 what it's gonna be about. I don't even 804 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:21,829 think John I don't think John Bolton or 805 00:27:21,829 --> 00:27:23,130 anybody is gonna be held accountable. 806 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:25,829 This is FBI raids, Maryland home of John 807 00:27:25,829 --> 00:27:28,389 Bolton. Of course, Patel says no one is 808 00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:30,630 above the law. You gotta love these fake 809 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:32,965 statements that like like you said here, 810 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:37,125 Barnum statement. Public corruption will not be tolerated. 811 00:27:37,265 --> 00:27:39,505 In fact, public corruption will always be tolerated 812 00:27:39,505 --> 00:27:41,025 inside the American empire. It's part of the 813 00:27:41,025 --> 00:27:42,465 glue that keeps the whole thing together. That's 814 00:27:42,465 --> 00:27:44,960 Dan Bongino for the podcast. Yeah. Funny. Go 815 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,039 and comment if you want to. I can't 816 00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:47,080 see your face right now, so jump in 817 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,960 if you want to. I was gonna read 818 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,640 some of these. You have a comment? No. 819 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,320 I just I just think that it it's 820 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,880 it's such a it's such a laughable statement 821 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,039 when the FBI is out there talking about 822 00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,234 how nobody's above the law. Like, what have 823 00:27:59,234 --> 00:28:00,994 you been watching for the last, oh, I 824 00:28:00,994 --> 00:28:01,575 don't know, 825 00:28:02,195 --> 00:28:05,555 twenty five years? Yeah. There's clearly a segment 826 00:28:05,555 --> 00:28:07,714 of society that is above the law. And 827 00:28:07,714 --> 00:28:09,234 and even more so clearly right now in 828 00:28:09,234 --> 00:28:10,994 this administration. I mean, they've shown us that 829 00:28:10,994 --> 00:28:12,914 with with Epstein, with with Maxwell, or anybody 830 00:28:12,914 --> 00:28:15,769 else or or Gates or you know, any 831 00:28:15,849 --> 00:28:17,049 the people are supposed to be trotted in 832 00:28:17,049 --> 00:28:19,309 front of us in handcuffs. You know? Yeah. 833 00:28:19,609 --> 00:28:20,970 Uh-huh. And then there's a couple more of 834 00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:23,049 these that just this one is so, you 835 00:28:23,049 --> 00:28:24,650 know, saying that, you know, Patel is telling 836 00:28:24,650 --> 00:28:26,569 us no one's above the law. Over here, 837 00:28:26,569 --> 00:28:27,950 though, this was the day before, 838 00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:30,375 Trump administration was preparing to fire Patel or 839 00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:32,694 replace him with, Andrew Bailey. There's a whole 840 00:28:32,694 --> 00:28:34,134 conversation there if you wanna get into it, 841 00:28:34,134 --> 00:28:36,694 but it's interesting. Like, it's the way that 842 00:28:36,694 --> 00:28:38,375 this reporting has been going from a lot 843 00:28:38,375 --> 00:28:40,134 of them is very interesting. You know, kind 844 00:28:40,134 --> 00:28:41,880 of like I don't know. Just it's weird 845 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,380 the way they recovered. This one says whistleblower 846 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,299 reveals how Patel and Boncino 847 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,440 are actually being thwarted by the deep state. 848 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,039 Right? So it's like, this is my point 849 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:51,480 of how he's covered. So you're covering all 850 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,559 your bases. You throw out every possible thing, 851 00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:55,080 and then whichever way it goes, we knew 852 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,144 it. We were right. You know? I just 853 00:28:56,144 --> 00:28:58,144 find it very interesting. But the idea that 854 00:28:58,144 --> 00:29:00,465 somehow president Trump's kryptonite has always been a 855 00:29:00,465 --> 00:29:01,365 corrupt DOJ, 856 00:29:01,744 --> 00:29:03,744 what a stupid thing to say. Yeah. Because 857 00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:05,345 I don't know. What do you think before 858 00:29:05,345 --> 00:29:07,205 I jump in with my thought? It's 859 00:29:07,984 --> 00:29:10,579 it's it's just theater. You know? It's like 860 00:29:10,779 --> 00:29:13,899 and cue cue the, you know, the actors 861 00:29:13,899 --> 00:29:15,740 to onto the stage, you know, and then 862 00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:18,159 exit stage left. It just it just feels 863 00:29:18,299 --> 00:29:18,799 like 864 00:29:19,899 --> 00:29:22,379 trust the plan, arrests are coming, deep state 865 00:29:22,379 --> 00:29:23,279 is in trouble, 866 00:29:24,464 --> 00:29:25,684 it'll all be exposed, 867 00:29:26,224 --> 00:29:28,065 you know, all all this stuff. I mean, 868 00:29:28,065 --> 00:29:30,384 is John Bolton being led away in handcuffs? 869 00:29:30,384 --> 00:29:31,765 Is it did they I mean, 870 00:29:32,384 --> 00:29:33,525 raiding his house? 871 00:29:33,904 --> 00:29:34,404 This 872 00:29:35,184 --> 00:29:37,049 this could be theater for all we know. 873 00:29:37,049 --> 00:29:38,890 I mean, it maybe just they're they're trying 874 00:29:38,890 --> 00:29:41,049 to rattle his cage. But is is John 875 00:29:41,049 --> 00:29:43,309 Bolton gonna go to prison? No. 876 00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:45,210 If he was gonna go to prison, he 877 00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:47,210 would have gone to prison for, I don't 878 00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:50,269 know, being involved in war crimes, for facilitating 879 00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:51,494 the sale of 880 00:29:52,295 --> 00:29:55,494 of chemical weapons to Iran or Iraq or 881 00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:56,394 some foreign 882 00:29:56,934 --> 00:29:59,015 leader. Do you remember the video of him, 883 00:29:59,015 --> 00:30:00,934 like, walking down the street in The United 884 00:30:00,934 --> 00:30:02,855 Arab Emirates? Some people filmed him. They're like, 885 00:30:02,855 --> 00:30:04,375 this is John Bolton walking down the street. 886 00:30:04,375 --> 00:30:06,160 He's like walking down the street and or 887 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400 he was in, like, Doha someplace, and you're 888 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,319 like, what's going on here? He's so he's 889 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:12,259 the he's a a scumbag 890 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,940 arms salesman 891 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,259 and has been for a long, long time. 892 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,265 Bloodthirsty Zionist who'd never saw a war he 893 00:30:19,265 --> 00:30:21,105 didn't want your kids to go die in. 894 00:30:21,105 --> 00:30:22,944 So there's plenty of reasons to wanna hate 895 00:30:22,944 --> 00:30:24,384 John Bolton or to think that he should 896 00:30:24,384 --> 00:30:26,384 be locked up. But what what this is 897 00:30:26,384 --> 00:30:28,244 all about in the end is 898 00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:30,164 it it's it's 899 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,000 like 900 00:30:32,380 --> 00:30:33,200 Trump porn 901 00:30:34,059 --> 00:30:36,140 for for the right where they go, he, 902 00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:37,820 you know, he's rounding them up. He's just 903 00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:39,740 going one by one. I mean, at this 904 00:30:39,740 --> 00:30:40,240 rate, 905 00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:43,339 he'll there'll be dozens of people in the 906 00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:45,914 by the next in four years out of 907 00:30:46,234 --> 00:30:48,795 the thousands or tens of thousands who should 908 00:30:48,795 --> 00:30:50,555 be let away in handcuffs. I mean, it 909 00:30:50,555 --> 00:30:51,455 it just feels 910 00:30:51,914 --> 00:30:53,215 it it just feels like 911 00:30:53,674 --> 00:30:54,414 more theater 912 00:30:54,955 --> 00:30:56,795 to fill the news cycle. And then, you 913 00:30:56,795 --> 00:30:59,035 know, football's coming up. It starts in two 914 00:30:59,035 --> 00:31:00,475 weeks, so it'll be out of the we 915 00:31:00,475 --> 00:31:02,289 won't be talking about it. Right. Well, I 916 00:31:02,289 --> 00:31:03,970 mean, clearly, your point is this is the 917 00:31:03,970 --> 00:31:05,250 same thing I've said in the past about 918 00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:07,410 others. Right? Or Obama or anybody. The idea 919 00:31:07,410 --> 00:31:09,650 is okay. So you're telling us you know 920 00:31:09,730 --> 00:31:11,570 you're going out you you you've raided his 921 00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:13,410 home, so you've got something. Right? So why 922 00:31:13,410 --> 00:31:15,585 isn't he being arrested and led away? The 923 00:31:15,585 --> 00:31:17,345 idea that so you're you're you're on a 924 00:31:17,345 --> 00:31:19,345 fishing expedition then. You're going there to look 925 00:31:19,345 --> 00:31:21,105 for something. So that clearly does not mean 926 00:31:21,105 --> 00:31:22,304 what they're trying to lay it out as. 927 00:31:22,304 --> 00:31:24,544 They're framing it as it's all coming down. 928 00:31:24,544 --> 00:31:26,384 Well, then they would be arresting these people, 929 00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,144 not diving into their home and making a 930 00:31:28,144 --> 00:31:29,664 big show like you're talking about. You know? 931 00:31:29,664 --> 00:31:32,029 It's it's it's insulting to our intelligence at 932 00:31:32,029 --> 00:31:33,309 the end of the day. And and the 933 00:31:33,309 --> 00:31:34,509 the idea of the, you know, the Trump 934 00:31:34,509 --> 00:31:36,590 porn thing is it's it's clear that they 935 00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:38,670 want that momentum. They want you to feel, 936 00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:41,630 like, it to distract from many, many different 937 00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:43,634 things. I mean, the isn't it weird how 938 00:31:43,634 --> 00:31:45,634 the Epstein story it's every day we get 939 00:31:45,634 --> 00:31:46,615 further from that story. 940 00:31:47,154 --> 00:31:48,914 Every single day, there's no it's not I 941 00:31:48,914 --> 00:31:51,234 don't even see momentum anymore. They keep acting 942 00:31:51,234 --> 00:31:53,234 like, well, the courts, they said no. And 943 00:31:53,234 --> 00:31:54,994 there there's so many other angles through which 944 00:31:54,994 --> 00:31:56,434 they could put information out, and they are 945 00:31:56,434 --> 00:31:58,500 just letting it drift away. It's very obvious. 946 00:31:58,500 --> 00:31:59,940 Dave Smith even just called him out in 947 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:01,859 some recent thing. He was on stage saying, 948 00:32:01,859 --> 00:32:03,619 you know, they covered this up. Or or 949 00:32:03,619 --> 00:32:05,059 even the, what's the other ones that I 950 00:32:05,059 --> 00:32:06,660 was just talking about? Like, or even whether 951 00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:07,640 it's the MAHA 952 00:32:07,940 --> 00:32:09,720 complete dismantling of this administration, 953 00:32:10,019 --> 00:32:11,619 but all these different moves where they just 954 00:32:11,619 --> 00:32:13,534 keeps getting further away. You know? It's do 955 00:32:13,534 --> 00:32:14,974 you think there's gonna be any accountability for 956 00:32:14,974 --> 00:32:16,414 any of that or any of the different, 957 00:32:16,414 --> 00:32:17,474 you know, larger points? 958 00:32:17,775 --> 00:32:19,315 No. I mean, I I I 959 00:32:20,575 --> 00:32:22,494 and they you know, if there if there 960 00:32:22,494 --> 00:32:24,034 was a a little bit of accountability, 961 00:32:24,974 --> 00:32:26,335 it would go set it would go a 962 00:32:26,335 --> 00:32:26,994 long way. 963 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:29,460 That's why when John does get repressed They 964 00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:32,440 haven't made that that connection. Like, 965 00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:35,299 you've got to show some of the people 966 00:32:35,299 --> 00:32:36,200 going to jail 967 00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:38,420 if you really wanna if you really wanna 968 00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:40,884 get away. But they they they don't care. 969 00:32:40,884 --> 00:32:42,244 Much in the same way, they don't care 970 00:32:42,244 --> 00:32:44,164 about the Epstein stuff, you know. Yeah. He 971 00:32:44,164 --> 00:32:46,085 just left them he he hung them out 972 00:32:46,085 --> 00:32:48,085 to dry. You know, Cash and Bongino, he 973 00:32:48,085 --> 00:32:50,325 just says, we're not releasing it. You guys 974 00:32:50,325 --> 00:32:51,924 go out there and fall on your swords. 975 00:32:51,924 --> 00:32:53,605 Look like idiots. I don't care. We're not 976 00:32:53,845 --> 00:32:55,769 I just know that that, you know, I'm 977 00:32:55,769 --> 00:32:57,369 gonna take it for a while, and then 978 00:32:57,369 --> 00:32:59,130 we'll move off of the news cycle. And 979 00:32:59,130 --> 00:32:59,950 I've been around 980 00:33:00,490 --> 00:33:02,029 long enough to know that eventually, 981 00:33:02,410 --> 00:33:04,009 you know, summer will be over. We'll be 982 00:33:04,009 --> 00:33:06,090 talking about something else, and we'll we'll forget 983 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:08,154 about it. And you guys get to bear 984 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:09,755 the brunt of it. You guys the the 985 00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:13,054 people anybody who's loyal to Donald Trump. What 986 00:33:13,275 --> 00:33:15,375 this is like being loyal to the psychotic 987 00:33:15,434 --> 00:33:17,115 king. You know at some point, he's gonna 988 00:33:17,115 --> 00:33:19,214 turn on you. He he turns on everybody. 989 00:33:19,355 --> 00:33:20,875 And and to think that this time, you're 990 00:33:20,875 --> 00:33:22,714 gonna tame him or you're gonna be different 991 00:33:22,714 --> 00:33:24,769 or you're gonna get you're gonna get to 992 00:33:24,769 --> 00:33:26,529 the bottom of it or what like, it's 993 00:33:27,329 --> 00:33:29,910 it it's not happening. He's there's no loyalty 994 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:32,849 with this guy at all. And so the 995 00:33:32,849 --> 00:33:35,089 the the cash you know, the Bonginos and 996 00:33:35,089 --> 00:33:37,884 and and the Bondies of the world, He 997 00:33:37,884 --> 00:33:40,285 views them as disposable. The way he's seen 998 00:33:40,285 --> 00:33:41,345 people, contractors, 999 00:33:41,724 --> 00:33:43,804 you know, through his business world, I'm sure 1000 00:33:43,804 --> 00:33:46,704 executives with NBC probably saw them as disposable. 1001 00:33:47,005 --> 00:33:48,464 You know, he doesn't 1002 00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:51,085 value people. So if you wanna work with 1003 00:33:51,085 --> 00:33:53,730 this guy, just, you know, don't act surprised 1004 00:33:53,730 --> 00:33:55,330 when things go awry. I mean, I don't 1005 00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:58,070 know why these these guys are acting like 1006 00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:59,910 they didn't see it coming. Like, 1007 00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:03,330 we all saw it coming. Yeah. I agree. 1008 00:34:03,330 --> 00:34:05,410 I mean, I I'm of the mind that 1009 00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:06,850 more and more people who haven't in the 1010 00:34:06,850 --> 00:34:08,744 past are. But I I wonder here too, 1011 00:34:08,744 --> 00:34:10,585 like, you know, it's it's certainly like, because 1012 00:34:10,585 --> 00:34:12,025 of what you said and how long this 1013 00:34:12,025 --> 00:34:13,385 has been the can has been kicked down 1014 00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:14,445 the road, if you will, 1015 00:34:14,985 --> 00:34:16,664 you know, it wouldn't surprise me if somebody 1016 00:34:16,664 --> 00:34:19,385 like a John Bolton does. I mean, again, 1017 00:34:19,385 --> 00:34:20,985 I don't think it's gonna happen based on 1018 00:34:20,985 --> 00:34:23,400 past events, precedents, you know, and just the 1019 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,400 lot the reality of the facts. I'm arguing 1020 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,380 I think it's unlikely. 1021 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,199 But if it did, it would make sense 1022 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,599 because they know that people need that, some 1023 00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:32,119 kind of a bone. But, look, we are 1024 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,760 doing it. Bolton was everybody hates John Bolton. 1025 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,059 Everybody. Yeah. You 1026 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:38,299 you you you could do that to universal 1027 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,940 approval. 1028 00:34:39,375 --> 00:34:41,054 Seriously. But John Bolton does know where the 1029 00:34:41,054 --> 00:34:42,255 bodies are buried, you know? And so, like, 1030 00:34:42,255 --> 00:34:44,494 you wonder how this ultimately plays out. But 1031 00:34:44,494 --> 00:34:46,094 I simply said, you know, who's got the 1032 00:34:46,094 --> 00:34:47,775 odds on whether this is yet another hype 1033 00:34:47,775 --> 00:34:49,534 false story and a long line of hype 1034 00:34:49,534 --> 00:34:52,014 false stories that leads nowhere but but this 1035 00:34:52,175 --> 00:34:54,355 but the sale of penis bills on Infowars. 1036 00:34:54,579 --> 00:34:56,260 As we all should, I certainly hope these 1037 00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:58,739 criminals are arrested, but history suggests that we're 1038 00:34:58,739 --> 00:34:59,480 being played. 1039 00:35:00,019 --> 00:35:02,980 John Bolton will never go into a prison 1040 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:05,299 cell. If John Bolton is ever going to 1041 00:35:05,299 --> 00:35:07,844 be taken off the chess board, it will 1042 00:35:07,844 --> 00:35:10,985 be that some two men enter his room, 1043 00:35:11,844 --> 00:35:13,925 hold him down, inject him with a substance, 1044 00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:15,445 slip out the back door, and John Bolton 1045 00:35:15,445 --> 00:35:16,565 has a heart attack in the middle of 1046 00:35:16,565 --> 00:35:18,485 the night. Right. Right. They're not gonna leave 1047 00:35:18,485 --> 00:35:19,844 a guy that who knows where the bodies 1048 00:35:19,844 --> 00:35:22,039 are buried, as you rightly pointed out, to 1049 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:23,800 to sit around and get himself in a 1050 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,159 in a in a in a in a 1051 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,239 pickle and then have to start talking. That 1052 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,679 just 1053 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:28,940 he and 1054 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:31,420 and John Bolton would know that. 1055 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,460 Yeah. Exact that's a great point, which means 1056 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,765 he's gonna act accordingly. Or logically speaking, that's 1057 00:35:37,765 --> 00:35:39,164 what you would assume. You know? But the 1058 00:35:39,204 --> 00:35:42,184 you know, an overlapping point is the Maxwell 1059 00:35:42,244 --> 00:35:43,844 point, which I didn't have necessarily set up 1060 00:35:43,844 --> 00:35:44,905 to talk about. But 1061 00:35:45,204 --> 00:35:47,125 the interesting discussion I recently saw, I don't 1062 00:35:47,125 --> 00:35:48,840 know if you saw this, where now the 1063 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,180 statement's coming out, whether being released by people 1064 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,480 supporting her or the prison or herself, I 1065 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,920 didn't really see I'm I've got into it 1066 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,320 in-depth, but that she's in danger now. Right? 1067 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:57,820 Which 1068 00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:00,360 interestingly makes sense. Right? You're clearly with the 1069 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,039 whole overlap to all of this. You've been 1070 00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:02,684 moved to a 1071 00:36:03,885 --> 00:36:05,965 lower security prison, and everyone just kinda stops 1072 00:36:05,965 --> 00:36:07,485 talking about it. It's like, was that set 1073 00:36:07,485 --> 00:36:09,005 up that way so she could be taken 1074 00:36:09,005 --> 00:36:10,844 out? You know, it's worth considering. Right? But 1075 00:36:10,844 --> 00:36:12,285 it's interesting to think about that now you 1076 00:36:12,285 --> 00:36:15,099 have this situation where she is, you know, 1077 00:36:15,099 --> 00:36:17,019 in limbo. It could work out in her 1078 00:36:17,019 --> 00:36:18,940 favor if ultimately this, you know I don't 1079 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:19,900 know. I mean, how do you see this 1080 00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:21,500 playing out? With her in that position, it 1081 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:23,260 seems they're drifting further and further away from 1082 00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:25,420 any accountability. The courts have stepped in and 1083 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:26,780 said at least twice now that we're not 1084 00:36:26,859 --> 00:36:28,380 the records can't come out even though they 1085 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:29,755 could do it if they wanted to. Where 1086 00:36:29,755 --> 00:36:31,355 do you see that going? I mean, I 1087 00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:32,875 think we talked about this a couple of 1088 00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:34,635 months ago. What if they made her into 1089 00:36:34,635 --> 00:36:35,215 a victim? 1090 00:36:35,755 --> 00:36:37,355 I that's already happening in some play some 1091 00:36:37,355 --> 00:36:39,755 places. Newsmax would be You could see her 1092 00:36:39,835 --> 00:36:41,355 well, I mean, I guess you could go 1093 00:36:41,355 --> 00:36:42,715 one of two ways with this. You could 1094 00:36:42,715 --> 00:36:44,715 either see this as they're moving her into 1095 00:36:44,715 --> 00:36:46,570 position for her to be easier to be 1096 00:36:46,570 --> 00:36:47,389 taken out, 1097 00:36:47,849 --> 00:36:48,349 which 1098 00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:50,409 a case could be made for that. But 1099 00:36:50,409 --> 00:36:51,710 I think people who 1100 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:54,889 know the prison system will tell you, if 1101 00:36:54,889 --> 00:36:56,750 you wanna get somebody, you can get them. 1102 00:36:56,809 --> 00:36:58,650 And if you wanna get somebody as high 1103 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,250 profile as her, you you're gonna have to 1104 00:37:00,250 --> 00:37:00,989 have connections 1105 00:37:01,545 --> 00:37:03,304 to to to do that. And, of course, 1106 00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,304 the people who would want Ghislaine Maxwell dead 1107 00:37:05,304 --> 00:37:07,224 would have those connections. So I think that 1108 00:37:07,224 --> 00:37:08,925 she's always been in danger, 1109 00:37:09,304 --> 00:37:11,864 but she's also hasn't been talking in the 1110 00:37:11,864 --> 00:37:14,909 past. And so the more that the FBI 1111 00:37:14,909 --> 00:37:17,150 visits her in jail, I mean, that obviously 1112 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:18,909 puts a target on on your back because 1113 00:37:18,909 --> 00:37:21,309 it it implies that you're in some way 1114 00:37:21,309 --> 00:37:23,250 communicating with them, and nobody 1115 00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:26,589 can be sure what you're saying. So so 1116 00:37:26,589 --> 00:37:29,184 that would in that would automatically put a 1117 00:37:29,184 --> 00:37:30,704 target on her back as if she didn't 1118 00:37:30,704 --> 00:37:32,464 have one already. But maybe it kinda died 1119 00:37:32,464 --> 00:37:34,565 down and, you know, they made a calculation. 1120 00:37:34,784 --> 00:37:35,284 But 1121 00:37:36,144 --> 00:37:37,744 but if you wanna come at this from 1122 00:37:37,744 --> 00:37:39,364 the other direction is that 1123 00:37:39,905 --> 00:37:41,984 she could be one step closer to getting 1124 00:37:41,984 --> 00:37:42,484 out 1125 00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:46,610 for talking to these people about the about, 1126 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:48,210 what she knows, 1127 00:37:48,670 --> 00:37:51,230 about who was involved. She could be in 1128 00:37:51,309 --> 00:37:53,550 being pressured in some way to come out 1129 00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:54,289 and say, 1130 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:57,630 all these people over here were involved, but 1131 00:37:57,630 --> 00:37:58,530 Trump wasn't. 1132 00:37:58,855 --> 00:38:00,315 Right. Obviously, that's 1133 00:38:00,855 --> 00:38:01,594 that would 1134 00:38:01,894 --> 00:38:03,175 you know, if she did that, if that 1135 00:38:03,175 --> 00:38:05,015 was part of a of of some sort 1136 00:38:05,015 --> 00:38:05,675 of stipulation, 1137 00:38:08,454 --> 00:38:10,215 the left would never believe it anyway. So 1138 00:38:10,215 --> 00:38:11,969 I don't know who you'd be convincing. You 1139 00:38:11,969 --> 00:38:13,889 might be able to settle the minds of 1140 00:38:13,889 --> 00:38:15,010 some of the people on the right, but 1141 00:38:15,010 --> 00:38:17,650 they're already convinced that he's innocent of everything, 1142 00:38:17,650 --> 00:38:19,409 and he's fine. So I don't know, though. 1143 00:38:19,409 --> 00:38:20,849 I I see a split down the middle, 1144 00:38:20,849 --> 00:38:21,889 though. I mean, I see a lot of 1145 00:38:21,889 --> 00:38:23,894 really prominent people on the right who are, 1146 00:38:23,974 --> 00:38:25,655 you know, in many ways, even still supporting 1147 00:38:25,655 --> 00:38:27,894 him, which I continue to find I continue 1148 00:38:27,894 --> 00:38:29,655 to find confounding like with the COVID shot 1149 00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:31,335 thing. But they go, you know, yes. Bad. 1150 00:38:31,335 --> 00:38:33,255 But he did cover up the the FC 1151 00:38:33,255 --> 00:38:34,635 network. You know? It's nice. 1152 00:38:34,934 --> 00:38:36,489 It's a crack. Yeah. 1153 00:38:36,949 --> 00:38:38,789 I like that. Right? I do like that 1154 00:38:38,789 --> 00:38:40,869 that they're starting to break away and say, 1155 00:38:40,869 --> 00:38:43,349 well, I supported him, but I don't support 1156 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:45,589 this. Okay. Good. That's a great first step. 1157 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:47,190 It doesn't mean you don't have to sign 1158 00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:48,763 on to every you know, you can Mhmm. 1159 00:38:48,789 --> 00:38:50,835 Like one of these candidates, but it doesn't 1160 00:38:50,835 --> 00:38:52,034 have to you don't have to sign on 1161 00:38:52,034 --> 00:38:53,635 to everything that they do. You can say, 1162 00:38:53,635 --> 00:38:54,835 I like them, but I don't like what 1163 00:38:54,835 --> 00:38:56,594 he's doing right now. Right? That that's the 1164 00:38:56,594 --> 00:38:59,414 first step towards recognizing that they're all 1165 00:39:00,355 --> 00:39:02,355 they're all criminals. But but if you can 1166 00:39:02,355 --> 00:39:04,114 at least see the flaws in your guy 1167 00:39:04,114 --> 00:39:05,699 or you could you know, you can say, 1168 00:39:05,859 --> 00:39:07,460 I draw the line here. Like, this is 1169 00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:09,139 some this is wrong or we voted for 1170 00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:10,420 him or I was kind of on the 1171 00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:11,859 fence and I didn't really care one way 1172 00:39:11,859 --> 00:39:13,380 or the other, but I leaned towards him 1173 00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:15,219 because I it would be nice to have 1174 00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:15,719 some, 1175 00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:18,554 resolution to the Epstein stuff, and a lot 1176 00:39:18,554 --> 00:39:19,914 of these people need to be in prison. 1177 00:39:19,914 --> 00:39:21,355 So he said he would do that. So 1178 00:39:21,355 --> 00:39:22,635 if there's a chance that he'll do it, 1179 00:39:22,635 --> 00:39:23,675 I'll vote for him, and then he gets 1180 00:39:23,675 --> 00:39:25,034 in there and goes, yeah. We're not doing 1181 00:39:25,034 --> 00:39:27,594 it. You go, goddamn it. Yeah. You know, 1182 00:39:27,594 --> 00:39:29,434 I fell for it again. One of those 1183 00:39:29,514 --> 00:39:31,434 like, for those people, yeah, I think those 1184 00:39:31,434 --> 00:39:33,054 people are genuinely 1185 00:39:33,969 --> 00:39:36,849 starting to be, to feel like they've been 1186 00:39:36,849 --> 00:39:39,829 had. And and and, you know, 1187 00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:41,030 but but 1188 00:39:41,650 --> 00:39:43,650 if Ghislaine came out and just said, oh, 1189 00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:45,430 Trump wasn't involved at all. 1190 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:46,789 I mean, 1191 00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:48,949 how much? 1192 00:39:50,594 --> 00:39:52,195 I I don't know. Would that would that 1193 00:39:52,195 --> 00:39:54,114 do would that do anything for the damage 1194 00:39:54,114 --> 00:39:56,195 control of those people who are frustrated with 1195 00:39:56,195 --> 00:39:58,034 him if he came out and or would 1196 00:39:58,034 --> 00:39:59,474 it be would that be good enough? Or 1197 00:39:59,474 --> 00:40:01,474 would they say, still doesn't change the fact 1198 00:40:01,474 --> 00:40:03,554 that this was done to somebody's kid. You 1199 00:40:03,554 --> 00:40:05,394 might not have been the person doing it, 1200 00:40:05,394 --> 00:40:07,920 but somebody was. And for you to not 1201 00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:10,059 investigate this or to to to tell call 1202 00:40:10,059 --> 00:40:12,219 us all stupid for still talking about it 1203 00:40:12,219 --> 00:40:15,039 is is not only insulting to my intelligence, 1204 00:40:15,099 --> 00:40:17,579 but it's it's immoral or it's, you know, 1205 00:40:17,579 --> 00:40:19,760 it goes against my my sense of 1206 00:40:20,204 --> 00:40:20,704 morality 1207 00:40:21,005 --> 00:40:22,704 or something. You know? So I I could 1208 00:40:25,085 --> 00:40:27,965 I'd I'd I'd I don't know what she's 1209 00:40:27,965 --> 00:40:30,765 going to be used for in this whole 1210 00:40:30,765 --> 00:40:31,265 play, 1211 00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:32,465 but, 1212 00:40:34,219 --> 00:40:35,980 you know, she's got cards to play, I 1213 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:38,219 would imagine. She's in prison, which is not 1214 00:40:38,219 --> 00:40:40,219 a good spot, but, you know, she knows 1215 00:40:40,219 --> 00:40:43,980 a lot. And that information is valuable to 1216 00:40:43,980 --> 00:40:44,880 a lot of people. 1217 00:40:45,179 --> 00:40:47,019 And I think at this point with where 1218 00:40:47,019 --> 00:40:49,344 they've bungled this thing so far, I think 1219 00:40:49,344 --> 00:40:51,744 that they the best case scenario for the 1220 00:40:51,744 --> 00:40:54,324 Trump administration or just Trump's personal perspective 1221 00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:56,465 would be to go that route, to have 1222 00:40:56,465 --> 00:40:57,285 her come out, 1223 00:40:58,385 --> 00:41:00,864 you know, folded in over the next week 1224 00:41:00,864 --> 00:41:02,224 or two weeks since, you know, some kind 1225 00:41:02,224 --> 00:41:04,224 of over new new stories come out that 1226 00:41:04,224 --> 00:41:05,730 she's the victim. Right? That somehow that it 1227 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:07,609 was all abuse and that she was played 1228 00:41:07,609 --> 00:41:09,210 and, you know, it finally comes out through 1229 00:41:09,210 --> 00:41:11,210 the court. And if you using that and 1230 00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:13,529 then her saying Trump was innocent, they were 1231 00:41:13,529 --> 00:41:15,929 trying it's a Democrat attack. Like, I could 1232 00:41:15,929 --> 00:41:17,309 see far too many 1233 00:41:17,715 --> 00:41:19,575 in even people, you know, people that are 1234 00:41:19,635 --> 00:41:21,474 maybe calling stuff out but wanna believe in 1235 00:41:21,474 --> 00:41:23,474 Trump falling for that. Because it's an easy 1236 00:41:23,474 --> 00:41:24,994 low hanging fruit to be like, I knew 1237 00:41:24,994 --> 00:41:26,914 it. He wasn't bad. It was always the 1238 00:41:26,914 --> 00:41:28,515 democrats. You know? And and it puts back 1239 00:41:28,515 --> 00:41:29,795 the that's what I think the best case 1240 00:41:29,795 --> 00:41:31,474 scenario is, but that would be difficult to 1241 00:41:31,474 --> 00:41:32,835 manage, I think. But we'll have to see 1242 00:41:32,835 --> 00:41:34,909 how it plays out. Yeah. It's interesting, though. 1243 00:41:35,130 --> 00:41:37,289 Yeah. So let let's talk about this last 1244 00:41:37,289 --> 00:41:38,570 point on the partisan thing I think is 1245 00:41:38,570 --> 00:41:40,829 interesting. The this this has been going around 1246 00:41:40,969 --> 00:41:43,130 in regard to the an interview that, 1247 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:46,409 Tucker Carlson had. And what's the guy's name 1248 00:41:46,409 --> 00:41:48,269 again? It was is this from here? 1249 00:41:48,664 --> 00:41:50,445 Thank you. Yeah. And the this is everyone. 1250 00:41:50,905 --> 00:41:52,905 Laurel Laurel, dogpiling. Look. And you know my 1251 00:41:52,984 --> 00:41:55,144 I'm not I'm I'm very, very, very suspicious 1252 00:41:55,144 --> 00:41:57,065 of Tucker Carlson, but how and I think 1253 00:41:57,065 --> 00:41:58,824 there's a lot of very obvious reason to 1254 00:41:58,824 --> 00:41:59,324 be. 1255 00:41:59,864 --> 00:42:01,464 But he has been calling things out even 1256 00:42:01,464 --> 00:42:03,360 though there's things that have been public knowledge 1257 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,480 for a long time that have been getting 1258 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,760 a lot of attention to them, right, around 1259 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,760 Israel and so on, which is positive, but 1260 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,519 we should continue questioning, although I hope that's 1261 00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:10,019 importantly 1262 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,400 heard. But it's funny to see the rumors 1263 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,400 of the types kind of, like, dog piling 1264 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,800 on to him about anything they can, which 1265 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,284 says a lot to me. This one was 1266 00:42:18,284 --> 00:42:20,605 about him saying, I think the statement was 1267 00:42:20,605 --> 00:42:22,284 one can make the argument that we should 1268 00:42:22,284 --> 00:42:24,444 have sided with Hitler. Now you know I've 1269 00:42:24,444 --> 00:42:26,444 seen his work. The idea to claim that 1270 00:42:26,444 --> 00:42:28,844 he's advocating for Hitler support is absurd. If 1271 00:42:28,844 --> 00:42:30,764 you look at the rational arguments that are 1272 00:42:30,764 --> 00:42:31,824 being made, as I understand it, I 1273 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:34,150 watched the the the general part of it, 1274 00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:35,690 is that ultimately the argument 1275 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:38,570 is, you know, that based on this information, 1276 00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:40,869 should this be true, you could argue that 1277 00:42:40,869 --> 00:42:42,309 that was the side that, you know, was, 1278 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:44,550 you know, fighting the evil you know, whatever. 1279 00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:45,750 Not to say that he goes, I think 1280 00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:47,690 we should support Hitler. It's a very nuanced 1281 00:42:47,875 --> 00:42:49,555 argument made. And I look. I'm not let's 1282 00:42:49,555 --> 00:42:51,335 just even say he was making that statement. 1283 00:42:51,474 --> 00:42:53,075 My point is of around all of it 1284 00:42:53,075 --> 00:42:55,394 is how insane it is for somebody to 1285 00:42:55,394 --> 00:42:57,875 say Tucker is now bad for letting this 1286 00:42:57,875 --> 00:42:59,954 person express their opinion. You know what I 1287 00:42:59,954 --> 00:43:02,135 mean? Like, it's isn't that the woke left? 1288 00:43:02,269 --> 00:43:03,789 Right? Isn't that what that was about the 1289 00:43:03,789 --> 00:43:05,469 same thing? And now here's the right doing 1290 00:43:05,469 --> 00:43:06,989 the same thing, which is always the point 1291 00:43:06,989 --> 00:43:08,349 to make around this, but just the way 1292 00:43:08,349 --> 00:43:10,109 that it's like this language control point. And, 1293 00:43:10,109 --> 00:43:11,389 I mean, in no way, to be clear, 1294 00:43:11,389 --> 00:43:13,230 am I arguing that there's somehow an argument 1295 00:43:13,230 --> 00:43:14,589 made that we support? I don't think that's 1296 00:43:14,589 --> 00:43:16,289 the reality. I think he was a monster 1297 00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:18,074 like a lot of people that worked in 1298 00:43:18,074 --> 00:43:19,755 many ways overlap with the very powers we're 1299 00:43:19,755 --> 00:43:21,835 fighting today, by the way. Both US and 1300 00:43:21,835 --> 00:43:23,195 others we could talk about. But what are 1301 00:43:23,195 --> 00:43:25,034 your thoughts about this and how it's being 1302 00:43:25,034 --> 00:43:27,275 applied? You know? And, like, especially with the 1303 00:43:27,275 --> 00:43:29,034 overlap of Zionism and where this all is, 1304 00:43:29,034 --> 00:43:31,434 it's a interesting thing. The split right here, 1305 00:43:31,434 --> 00:43:33,195 rumor, Tucker. You know? What do you think 1306 00:43:33,195 --> 00:43:34,690 about it all? Well, they did the same 1307 00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:36,369 thing with Daryl Cooper when he came on 1308 00:43:36,369 --> 00:43:38,210 and talked about Churchill. Right? He was like, 1309 00:43:38,210 --> 00:43:40,530 well, Churchill wasn't all that great. The monster 1310 00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:42,769 dude are you talking about? How dare you? 1311 00:43:42,769 --> 00:43:45,090 He had a cigar and he you know? 1312 00:43:45,090 --> 00:43:47,570 And and you go, oh, then well, there's 1313 00:43:47,570 --> 00:43:48,070 more. 1314 00:43:48,414 --> 00:43:50,674 It it goes to an underlying 1315 00:43:50,974 --> 00:43:53,694 point that there are more questions about World 1316 00:43:53,694 --> 00:43:55,694 War two now than there have ever been. 1317 00:43:55,694 --> 00:43:58,194 And people are trying starting to reexamine 1318 00:43:58,494 --> 00:44:00,654 history and look back on this and go, 1319 00:44:00,654 --> 00:44:01,474 alright. Well, 1320 00:44:02,909 --> 00:44:04,289 given what I know 1321 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:05,170 now 1322 00:44:05,549 --> 00:44:08,429 about the way the media operates and how 1323 00:44:08,429 --> 00:44:11,650 dirty politicians are in our modern world, 1324 00:44:11,949 --> 00:44:14,750 isn't it reasonable for me to think that 1325 00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:15,250 maybe 1326 00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:18,234 what we in the West are told about 1327 00:44:18,234 --> 00:44:19,295 World War two 1328 00:44:19,594 --> 00:44:20,094 is 1329 00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:23,195 is is skewed to benefit us and make 1330 00:44:23,195 --> 00:44:25,114 us look better, make somebody you know, history 1331 00:44:25,114 --> 00:44:27,054 is written by the victors as they say. 1332 00:44:28,074 --> 00:44:30,234 I I had a conversation with a a 1333 00:44:30,234 --> 00:44:30,734 handyman 1334 00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:32,619 who is Russian, 1335 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,739 and who who works with me on things. 1336 00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:38,640 And and he I asked him, oh, he 1337 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,519 he couldn't come one day because it he 1338 00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,599 was at a celebration with his family. And 1339 00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:44,840 it was, it was a World War two 1340 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,340 celebration. 1341 00:44:45,785 --> 00:44:47,485 He says it's a big deal to us, 1342 00:44:47,625 --> 00:44:49,885 to to the to Russians. And 1343 00:44:50,344 --> 00:44:52,184 in my community here in Denver is is 1344 00:44:52,184 --> 00:44:54,125 it's you know, the he says, you know, 1345 00:44:54,985 --> 00:44:56,505 do you know about World War two? I 1346 00:44:56,505 --> 00:44:57,465 said, well, I know 1347 00:44:57,989 --> 00:44:59,289 I mean, I had to unlearn 1348 00:44:59,590 --> 00:45:01,829 what I thought I knew and learn the 1349 00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:03,909 new version of it. And what I know 1350 00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:06,250 is that you guys lost a lot of 1351 00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:08,070 lot of young boys. You lost a lot 1352 00:45:08,070 --> 00:45:09,829 of people during that war, and that and 1353 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:11,989 that the bulk of the heavy lifting was 1354 00:45:11,989 --> 00:45:14,355 done by the Soviet Union against the Germans 1355 00:45:14,355 --> 00:45:16,994 and that America's involvement was greatly exaggerated. He 1356 00:45:16,994 --> 00:45:18,914 just looked at me like, oh, okay. Yeah. 1357 00:45:18,914 --> 00:45:19,574 I mean 1358 00:45:20,355 --> 00:45:22,034 so you know a little bit more about 1359 00:45:22,034 --> 00:45:24,355 it. And so so there's a it depends 1360 00:45:24,355 --> 00:45:25,235 on on 1361 00:45:26,409 --> 00:45:28,570 it it depends on where you grew up 1362 00:45:28,570 --> 00:45:30,170 and what you're taught. Because here in The 1363 00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:32,650 United States, I mean, America saved the day 1364 00:45:32,650 --> 00:45:34,170 in World War two. You know, we dropped 1365 00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:36,329 the bombs on those dirty japs, you know, 1366 00:45:36,329 --> 00:45:38,090 and we and we we we came in 1367 00:45:38,090 --> 00:45:40,489 and we defeated the the the bad guys. 1368 00:45:40,489 --> 00:45:41,949 And you go, okay. Well, 1369 00:45:43,025 --> 00:45:44,885 what if they're all bad guys? 1370 00:45:45,345 --> 00:45:47,505 Right. Right. You know, like, if we consider 1371 00:45:47,505 --> 00:45:49,605 that like, there's this idea that it's like, 1372 00:45:49,744 --> 00:45:51,825 these are the good guys and those are 1373 00:45:51,825 --> 00:45:54,644 the bad guys. It's like, well, okay. But 1374 00:45:54,929 --> 00:45:57,329 the reason why it all started in the 1375 00:45:57,329 --> 00:45:59,730 first place was because of all these other 1376 00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:02,289 things that nobody talks about. Doesn't that make 1377 00:46:02,289 --> 00:46:04,130 the good guys kind of the bad guys 1378 00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:06,849 too? It's like, well, okay. So so when 1379 00:46:06,849 --> 00:46:09,409 Dave Colum or Daryl Cooper or somebody is 1380 00:46:09,409 --> 00:46:09,909 saying 1381 00:46:10,525 --> 00:46:12,545 talk you know, goes into and says something 1382 00:46:13,005 --> 00:46:15,485 like this that that creates a firestorm, what 1383 00:46:15,485 --> 00:46:17,105 they're really saying is 1384 00:46:17,644 --> 00:46:19,644 World War two is a lot more complex 1385 00:46:19,644 --> 00:46:22,204 than we had been told. Right. It's there's 1386 00:46:22,204 --> 00:46:24,304 the the stories of of what 1387 00:46:25,179 --> 00:46:28,059 led to it, what happened during it, and 1388 00:46:28,059 --> 00:46:29,420 then the things that were done in the 1389 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:31,340 aftermath of it. There are a ton of 1390 00:46:31,340 --> 00:46:34,000 lies surrounding those stories, and it is worth 1391 00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:34,719 a reexamination. 1392 00:46:35,099 --> 00:46:37,260 Now, you know, in in it it talks 1393 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:38,640 you know, it's just 1394 00:46:39,164 --> 00:46:40,945 kind of hearkens back to the 1395 00:46:41,565 --> 00:46:43,644 the general patent quote about, I think maybe 1396 00:46:43,644 --> 00:46:45,405 we've fought on the wrong side here. And 1397 00:46:45,405 --> 00:46:48,045 you go, why would he say that? You 1398 00:46:48,045 --> 00:46:49,965 know, what did he see? Did he see 1399 00:46:49,965 --> 00:46:51,929 something that we didn't see? Is it you 1400 00:46:51,929 --> 00:46:54,250 know, they're all banker wars. You know? Was 1401 00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:56,809 Hitler a a gay British spy as Sam 1402 00:46:56,809 --> 00:46:58,250 Tripoli says? You know what I mean? Like, 1403 00:46:58,250 --> 00:47:01,150 I mean, what what's really going on? Because 1404 00:47:02,650 --> 00:47:05,389 because to examine a comment like that, 1405 00:47:05,905 --> 00:47:07,845 just on its face, even if he said, 1406 00:47:08,305 --> 00:47:09,744 you know, even if he he went to 1407 00:47:09,744 --> 00:47:10,724 the most extreme, 1408 00:47:11,664 --> 00:47:14,724 requires you to unpack a whole new version 1409 00:47:15,265 --> 00:47:17,664 of history that you probably didn't know. And 1410 00:47:17,664 --> 00:47:19,105 you're not gonna ever get to a point 1411 00:47:19,105 --> 00:47:20,625 where you're saying hit Hitler was a good 1412 00:47:20,625 --> 00:47:22,500 guy. Right? You're not gonna get there. 1413 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,639 But you're going to get to a point 1414 00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:26,159 where you're gonna go, well, now I understand. 1415 00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:28,000 You know, if I was in Germany in 1416 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,119 1937, 1417 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,199 I would've I would've given the middle finger 1418 00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:32,880 of the Nazis, and I would've never joined 1419 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,400 up anything. And you go, yeah. You lived 1420 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,885 through COVID, didn't you? You saw what happened 1421 00:47:36,885 --> 00:47:39,525 to people during COVID. Right? I don't know 1422 00:47:39,525 --> 00:47:40,965 if you you know, do you know the 1423 00:47:40,965 --> 00:47:41,465 conditions 1424 00:47:41,765 --> 00:47:44,164 inside Germany that led to a lot of 1425 00:47:44,164 --> 00:47:46,565 this frustration? What was happening? Who was doing 1426 00:47:46,565 --> 00:47:49,010 it? What was being done? Like, there's a 1427 00:47:49,010 --> 00:47:51,329 whole lot to unpack here. So I think 1428 00:47:51,329 --> 00:47:53,829 that when you're you're in a a headline 1429 00:47:53,889 --> 00:47:54,869 driven society, 1430 00:47:55,489 --> 00:47:56,789 social media fueled, 1431 00:47:57,170 --> 00:47:59,730 sound bites, clips, two minute thing. I got 1432 00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:01,650 two minutes of Tucker out of three hours 1433 00:48:01,650 --> 00:48:04,065 or whatever. And you use that, you can 1434 00:48:04,065 --> 00:48:06,144 paint whatever picture you want. You can make 1435 00:48:06,144 --> 00:48:08,385 Dave Collum look like a rabid Nazi if 1436 00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:10,224 you'd like to, or you can make him 1437 00:48:10,224 --> 00:48:12,464 look as like an intellectual, who he is. 1438 00:48:12,464 --> 00:48:14,784 He worked as a professor at Princeton. And 1439 00:48:14,784 --> 00:48:16,945 and you should say that what he's saying 1440 00:48:16,945 --> 00:48:18,724 is that we have to examine 1441 00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,519 all the information, not just some cherry picked 1442 00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:23,920 information that goes into your textbooks that's controlled 1443 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,699 by some guys that you don't even know. 1444 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,079 So so I I think that whenever you 1445 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,239 get something like this, it's probably good for 1446 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,400 ratings, good for clicks, you know, probably gets 1447 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,239 a lot of people watching that that that 1448 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,775 interview. But if you're looking to drag some 1449 00:48:36,775 --> 00:48:39,015 guy out in in his jack boots out 1450 00:48:39,015 --> 00:48:41,114 of an interview with Tucker, this isn't it. 1451 00:48:41,335 --> 00:48:42,695 Well, on top of that, it's it's not 1452 00:48:42,695 --> 00:48:45,574 even it's also it's largely directed towards Tucker. 1453 00:48:45,574 --> 00:48:47,015 How dare he sit there and let this 1454 00:48:47,015 --> 00:48:49,309 man express his grace? And after everything with 1455 00:48:49,469 --> 00:48:50,829 that Charlie just said and what we just 1456 00:48:50,829 --> 00:48:52,750 looked at, now listen to the statement again. 1457 00:48:52,750 --> 00:48:55,230 You the argument could be made that this 1458 00:48:55,230 --> 00:48:57,309 was the like, it's to to make the 1459 00:48:57,309 --> 00:48:58,750 I to put out the idea that you're 1460 00:48:58,750 --> 00:49:01,630 not the like, framing an alternative argument in 1461 00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:03,784 any context is is somehow wrong. It's weird 1462 00:49:03,784 --> 00:49:05,944 how that is only really ever happening in 1463 00:49:05,944 --> 00:49:08,344 conversations like this. In certain points and certain 1464 00:49:08,344 --> 00:49:10,505 historical you know, it's this is not allowed. 1465 00:49:10,505 --> 00:49:12,184 You are not allowed to look at Zionism. 1466 00:49:12,184 --> 00:49:13,944 You know, it's very weird how all that 1467 00:49:13,944 --> 00:49:15,625 happens. You know? But I think it just 1468 00:49:15,625 --> 00:49:16,605 speaks to the control 1469 00:49:16,969 --> 00:49:18,730 of a lot of important things, like your 1470 00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:20,650 point about World War two entirely. You know, 1471 00:49:20,650 --> 00:49:23,150 there's major aspects that people don't look into. 1472 00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:24,909 They don't they don't wanna understand. 1473 00:49:25,210 --> 00:49:27,049 And even the idea of, like, the the 1474 00:49:27,049 --> 00:49:29,789 the most contentious parts by design, the holocaust, 1475 00:49:30,035 --> 00:49:31,715 you know, the different aspects of the way 1476 00:49:31,715 --> 00:49:33,474 that went down. The idea that we're not 1477 00:49:33,474 --> 00:49:36,594 allowed to have a conversation about nuances or 1478 00:49:36,594 --> 00:49:38,594 how somebody like, even from the perspective of 1479 00:49:38,594 --> 00:49:40,275 maybe they just got the data wrong. You 1480 00:49:40,275 --> 00:49:41,954 know, it's like, how dare you? You know, 1481 00:49:41,954 --> 00:49:43,394 it's like whatever it is. And it's just 1482 00:49:43,394 --> 00:49:46,450 so insane. That speaks volumes. And I think 1483 00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:48,450 today people are finally, you know, more than 1484 00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:51,170 ever recognizing. That's not to say that we're 1485 00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:52,610 trying to make the argument that this is 1486 00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:54,309 good or that's bad. It's just an analytical 1487 00:49:54,369 --> 00:49:55,970 point. You know? It's just a like he 1488 00:49:56,050 --> 00:49:57,750 like you're saying, he's an he's an intellectual 1489 00:49:57,890 --> 00:50:00,559 making an argument about the historical misinformation, and 1490 00:50:00,735 --> 00:50:02,175 and that's what it all spins out into. 1491 00:50:02,175 --> 00:50:03,954 You know, it just shows you the control 1492 00:50:04,015 --> 00:50:05,775 that we are under in the world. And 1493 00:50:05,775 --> 00:50:07,695 it's not just Israel. There's a lot of 1494 00:50:07,695 --> 00:50:09,295 other parts around this. You know? But thank 1495 00:50:09,295 --> 00:50:11,535 you. That's an insightful breakdown on that. It's 1496 00:50:11,535 --> 00:50:13,295 very, very weird, though. It's coming from Ted 1497 00:50:13,295 --> 00:50:15,055 Cruz. You know? And, like, watching this kind 1498 00:50:15,055 --> 00:50:16,949 of split down the middle of these parties. 1499 00:50:16,949 --> 00:50:19,590 It's it's fascinating to watch. You're not allowed 1500 00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:21,750 to make the argument that there could be 1501 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:23,429 questions about World War two, but you are 1502 00:50:23,429 --> 00:50:25,109 allowed to make the argument that men can 1503 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:25,769 have babies. 1504 00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:28,550 Yeah. Right. Or or going the direction based 1505 00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:30,565 off your COVID point, right, that we don't 1506 00:50:30,565 --> 00:50:32,724 need a COVID nineteen. We're watching a genocide 1507 00:50:32,724 --> 00:50:34,164 play out, and people are siding, you know, 1508 00:50:34,164 --> 00:50:35,525 the same kind of idea. But to your 1509 00:50:35,525 --> 00:50:37,204 point that, you know, it's it's it's about 1510 00:50:37,204 --> 00:50:39,625 a a bastardization of the information. You know? 1511 00:50:39,844 --> 00:50:42,485 Using the misinformation to drive us into places 1512 00:50:42,485 --> 00:50:45,110 of control as always, every possible thing. But 1513 00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:46,489 then always within that, 1514 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:49,989 there are multifaceted agendas. You know? Individual congressmen, 1515 00:50:49,989 --> 00:50:51,670 let's say, that have their own agenda about 1516 00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:53,190 the way the way they want something to 1517 00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:54,869 go down or people in the military or 1518 00:50:54,869 --> 00:50:57,030 different governments. You know? There's always that's why 1519 00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:58,630 it's so difficult to put a pin in 1520 00:50:58,630 --> 00:51:00,344 one thing. This is what it was about. 1521 00:51:00,344 --> 00:51:02,284 You know? There's always so many things happening. 1522 00:51:02,505 --> 00:51:04,344 Yeah. Let let let's take this into, you 1523 00:51:04,344 --> 00:51:04,844 know, 1524 00:51:05,465 --> 00:51:07,405 well, I was either gonna talk about 1525 00:51:07,704 --> 00:51:09,724 ICE DC overlap or 1526 00:51:10,585 --> 00:51:12,265 let's see how much time we have. Let's 1527 00:51:12,265 --> 00:51:14,525 let's talk about this first, 1528 00:51:15,969 --> 00:51:17,650 and then we'll go into some DC stuff 1529 00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:18,930 and ISEF with how much time we have 1530 00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:20,530 left. So I thought this was interesting. So 1531 00:51:20,530 --> 00:51:21,670 you might have seen this. 1532 00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:24,309 This just kinda speaks to the larger agenda. 1533 00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:27,329 Elon Musk on how to avoid being replaced 1534 00:51:27,329 --> 00:51:29,090 by by AI. I'll just play at the 1535 00:51:29,090 --> 00:51:31,945 beginning of it. Vision for a society where 1536 00:51:31,945 --> 00:51:34,125 human effort is no longer required 1537 00:51:34,585 --> 00:51:36,045 for survival or productivity. 1538 00:51:36,425 --> 00:51:38,125 How do we avoid irrelevance? 1539 00:51:40,264 --> 00:51:42,585 Right. I think that's a central question. Well, 1540 00:51:42,585 --> 00:51:43,724 if if you are 1541 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:44,809 symbiotic 1542 00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:46,170 with AI 1543 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:47,769 where we 1544 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:49,450 that there's this 1545 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:53,450 essentially, a merger of human and machine intelligence, 1546 00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:54,890 then 1547 00:51:56,469 --> 00:51:58,489 we may be able to address the relevance 1548 00:51:58,550 --> 00:51:59,050 question. 1549 00:51:59,670 --> 00:52:01,724 So So he goes on to clearly continue 1550 00:52:01,724 --> 00:52:03,085 to point out that we should merge with 1551 00:52:03,085 --> 00:52:03,585 machines. 1552 00:52:03,885 --> 00:52:05,565 Does sound familiar? I'm sure we've heard this 1553 00:52:05,565 --> 00:52:09,005 before. What's the first industrial revolution will lead 1554 00:52:09,005 --> 00:52:10,464 to is a fusion 1555 00:52:11,405 --> 00:52:12,545 of our physical, 1556 00:52:13,244 --> 00:52:14,144 our digital, 1557 00:52:14,909 --> 00:52:15,409 and 1558 00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:17,409 our biological 1559 00:52:18,429 --> 00:52:18,929 identities. 1560 00:52:20,109 --> 00:52:22,190 Now to us, this is not new. Right? 1561 00:52:22,190 --> 00:52:24,190 We've seen Elon Musk make very similar points 1562 00:52:24,190 --> 00:52:26,510 before. We've seen this building well before Klaus 1563 00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:28,844 Schwab. You know? But kind of the same 1564 00:52:28,844 --> 00:52:31,005 or earlier point. And and I I'd like 1565 00:52:31,005 --> 00:52:33,405 to even get into some Elon weirdness and 1566 00:52:33,405 --> 00:52:35,565 Doge and stuff like that, but he's clearly 1567 00:52:35,565 --> 00:52:37,085 pointing to the direction this is all going 1568 00:52:37,085 --> 00:52:38,925 in. And this is not, like, twenty years 1569 00:52:38,925 --> 00:52:40,525 from now. This has happened this is the 1570 00:52:40,525 --> 00:52:42,420 weird part for me as somebody covering this. 1571 00:52:42,579 --> 00:52:45,139 We're literally watching this happen. You know? Right? 1572 00:52:45,139 --> 00:52:47,619 We can see them building infrastructure, building out 1573 00:52:47,699 --> 00:52:49,299 I mean, we have bots running parts of 1574 00:52:49,299 --> 00:52:50,980 our government at this point, if not entirely, 1575 00:52:50,980 --> 00:52:52,420 for all we know. You know? And he's 1576 00:52:52,420 --> 00:52:53,799 outlining this merger 1577 00:52:54,099 --> 00:52:55,539 for the future. I just, you know, just 1578 00:52:55,539 --> 00:52:56,900 want your thoughts on that, where that goes, 1579 00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,595 the overlap with the China perspective, it's warming. 1580 00:53:00,295 --> 00:53:03,035 Well, I think it's important for people to 1581 00:53:03,095 --> 00:53:05,914 get clear on what the fourth industrial revolution 1582 00:53:06,295 --> 00:53:07,275 actually is. 1583 00:53:07,735 --> 00:53:09,894 He talks about the blending of man with 1584 00:53:09,894 --> 00:53:12,235 machine into something known as transhumanism. 1585 00:53:12,789 --> 00:53:13,529 Mhmm. And 1586 00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:16,089 and and that word matters. 1587 00:53:16,469 --> 00:53:19,029 The reason why they did not robot future 1588 00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:20,889 or whatever no. It's transhumanism. 1589 00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:24,150 And that word was coined in 1957 1590 00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:25,909 by sir Julian Huxley, the head of the 1591 00:53:25,909 --> 00:53:28,355 British Eugenics Society when he rebranded 1592 00:53:28,655 --> 00:53:29,155 eugenics 1593 00:53:29,614 --> 00:53:32,255 into something else, into a different word because 1594 00:53:32,255 --> 00:53:34,175 it had a lot of baggage. And the 1595 00:53:34,175 --> 00:53:35,715 word he chose was transhumanism, 1596 00:53:36,094 --> 00:53:37,394 and it sounds futuristic 1597 00:53:37,695 --> 00:53:38,675 and kinda cool. 1598 00:53:38,974 --> 00:53:40,815 And if you if you go with the 1599 00:53:40,815 --> 00:53:43,750 sales pitch from Schwab, which will now be 1600 00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:46,309 Larry Fink, you know, the this is this 1601 00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:49,190 is, an upgrade to your physical body. It's 1602 00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:49,849 it's it's 1603 00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:51,750 robot arms, it's, 1604 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:55,670 implantable devices, it's pills that you swallow that 1605 00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:57,835 map and make sure that everything is working. 1606 00:53:57,835 --> 00:54:00,315 You know, it's it's benefit, benefit, benefit. That's 1607 00:54:00,474 --> 00:54:02,155 you sell the benefits. This is a time 1608 00:54:02,155 --> 00:54:03,375 share sales pitch, 1609 00:54:03,835 --> 00:54:06,015 and they're only gonna show you the glossy 1610 00:54:06,075 --> 00:54:07,914 images. Right? They're not gonna talk to you 1611 00:54:07,914 --> 00:54:10,075 about what it really is about. What it 1612 00:54:10,075 --> 00:54:11,535 really is about is depopulation 1613 00:54:12,289 --> 00:54:14,150 because that is transhumanism 1614 00:54:14,530 --> 00:54:16,869 is eugenics, and eugenics is depopulation. 1615 00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:19,730 So but you can't just come right out 1616 00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:22,130 and say that because people won't walk into 1617 00:54:22,210 --> 00:54:23,730 you know, they won't they won't walk into 1618 00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:25,250 the cage if you if you say it's 1619 00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:28,045 about that. So it's gotta be about something 1620 00:54:28,045 --> 00:54:28,545 more 1621 00:54:29,085 --> 00:54:29,824 and something 1622 00:54:30,364 --> 00:54:32,684 that they can sell. And and who better 1623 00:54:32,684 --> 00:54:34,204 to sell it than Elon Musk? You know, 1624 00:54:34,204 --> 00:54:36,445 he's got Neuralink. He's a trusted guy with 1625 00:54:36,445 --> 00:54:38,204 your car. You know, you get your sat 1626 00:54:38,285 --> 00:54:39,105 you get satellite 1627 00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:41,989 Internet from him sometimes if you're out and 1628 00:54:41,989 --> 00:54:43,530 about. You know, I mean, he's 1629 00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:44,809 he's 1630 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:46,090 he's relevant. 1631 00:54:46,869 --> 00:54:48,010 And and so, 1632 00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:53,110 so he's the guy who's selling the future. 1633 00:54:53,110 --> 00:54:54,250 And the future, unfortunately, 1634 00:54:54,704 --> 00:54:55,605 that these guys wanna push 1635 00:54:56,785 --> 00:54:58,965 is is what he's not going to say 1636 00:54:59,425 --> 00:55:01,525 when in when asked the question about relevance 1637 00:55:01,585 --> 00:55:03,585 within in a world of AI is that 1638 00:55:03,585 --> 00:55:05,605 the truth is you're irrelevant 1639 00:55:06,065 --> 00:55:08,164 to them. And that actually, 1640 00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:11,480 as part of the fourth industrial revolution, 1641 00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:14,039 it's the blending of man with machine, 1642 00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:17,559 but it's then the subsequent removal of man. 1643 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,775 Because they because they're no longer needed for 1644 00:55:21,775 --> 00:55:22,514 these tasks. 1645 00:55:23,054 --> 00:55:23,554 So 1646 00:55:23,934 --> 00:55:24,414 it's, 1647 00:55:25,855 --> 00:55:28,594 it it's just, that most people will never 1648 00:55:28,735 --> 00:55:31,315 dig beneath the surface. I mean, maybe 1649 00:55:32,014 --> 00:55:34,574 maybe what is necessary to wake people up 1650 00:55:34,574 --> 00:55:35,934 to this I mean, you would think a 1651 00:55:35,934 --> 00:55:38,099 cartoon character like Klaus Schwab and his whole 1652 00:55:38,099 --> 00:55:40,099 get up would be the thing that that 1653 00:55:40,099 --> 00:55:41,940 wakes people up. Maybe they just need to 1654 00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:44,039 see known bad guy Larry Fink 1655 00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:46,420 in charge there, and they go, wait a 1656 00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:49,639 second. Like, he's not uncle Klaus. He's he's 1657 00:55:49,859 --> 00:55:51,940 Larry the evil banker. Why is he in 1658 00:55:51,940 --> 00:55:54,484 charge of this? Like, wait. He wants me 1659 00:55:54,784 --> 00:55:58,304 to implant devices? The scary banker billionaire guy 1660 00:55:58,304 --> 00:56:00,324 who's owns all these like, 1661 00:56:00,944 --> 00:56:03,424 what if what if it has the exact 1662 00:56:03,424 --> 00:56:04,324 opposite effect? 1663 00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:07,780 Yeah. Yeah. I certainly hope so. You know, 1664 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,079 you you just wonder if the kind of 1665 00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,239 the point before is that maybe they've created 1666 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,800 a, you know, a a situation, a climate 1667 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,199 where people are more amenable, open to driving 1668 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:19,934 towards a CEO run anything. You know? Trump 1669 00:56:19,934 --> 00:56:21,454 the best man. This is the same model. 1670 00:56:21,454 --> 00:56:22,655 You know? I I just hope that we're 1671 00:56:22,655 --> 00:56:25,055 not that simple. You know? I'll I'll include 1672 00:56:25,055 --> 00:56:27,454 this too. We'd this is, to make that 1673 00:56:27,454 --> 00:56:27,954 point, 1674 00:56:28,335 --> 00:56:30,574 we've I've we've I've, covered this many times. 1675 00:56:30,735 --> 00:56:32,494 James Corbett did a great breakdown of this. 1676 00:56:32,494 --> 00:56:34,035 This is the the one 1677 00:56:34,369 --> 00:56:36,210 from that basically Klaus Schwab and the rest 1678 00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:38,050 in the US government overlap are pointing to, 1679 00:56:38,050 --> 00:56:39,030 converging technologies 1680 00:56:39,329 --> 00:56:40,710 for improving human performance, 1681 00:56:41,170 --> 00:56:42,390 02/2002. 1682 00:56:42,449 --> 00:56:44,210 This is the one that Corbett covered from 1683 00:56:44,210 --> 00:56:47,744 Canada exploring biodigital convergence that it literally says, 1684 00:56:47,985 --> 00:56:50,305 biological and digital systems are converging and could 1685 00:56:50,305 --> 00:56:51,905 change the way we work, live, and even 1686 00:56:51,905 --> 00:56:53,825 evolve as a species, which I think is 1687 00:56:53,825 --> 00:56:56,224 important seeing as how in this report from 1688 00:56:56,224 --> 00:56:57,265 02/2002, 1689 00:56:57,265 --> 00:56:59,184 it overlaps the this is how I covered 1690 00:56:59,184 --> 00:57:01,269 it on the show. The government docs from 1691 00:57:01,269 --> 00:57:03,829 2002 reveal a twenty year plan to alter 1692 00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:04,889 evolution with nanotechnology. 1693 00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:06,949 It puts us right at 2022, right in 1694 00:57:06,949 --> 00:57:08,789 the middle of the COVID nineteen overlap. You 1695 00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:10,150 know? So it's like I I think that 1696 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:12,309 there's a very clear effort that overlaps with 1697 00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:14,094 this that's like a whole, you know, not 1698 00:57:14,094 --> 00:57:15,235 just like evolving 1699 00:57:15,614 --> 00:57:18,335 technology, digital IDs, and surveillance, but, like, something 1700 00:57:18,335 --> 00:57:20,094 internal. You know? And that's why I think 1701 00:57:20,094 --> 00:57:21,695 that there's a whole part of this that 1702 00:57:21,695 --> 00:57:24,335 is being done without our knowledge. You know? 1703 00:57:24,335 --> 00:57:25,934 And I think that the COVID nineteen overlap. 1704 00:57:25,934 --> 00:57:27,454 Different point entirely, but I think that these 1705 00:57:27,454 --> 00:57:29,259 obviously connect. You know? And I think a 1706 00:57:29,259 --> 00:57:30,460 lot of these stories are about trying to 1707 00:57:30,460 --> 00:57:32,380 get us to look anywhere other than what's 1708 00:57:32,380 --> 00:57:34,159 literally in front of us, sadly enough. 1709 00:57:35,659 --> 00:57:37,579 Yeah. Well, they're not gonna tell the sheep 1710 00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:39,440 they're headed to the, slaughterhouse. 1711 00:57:39,739 --> 00:57:41,579 You know? They just they just can't do 1712 00:57:41,579 --> 00:57:43,574 that. And so they're gonna it's it will 1713 00:57:43,574 --> 00:57:44,635 constantly be, 1714 00:57:45,414 --> 00:57:47,574 disguised and hidden or sold to us as 1715 00:57:47,574 --> 00:57:48,155 a benefit. 1716 00:57:48,614 --> 00:57:49,015 And, 1717 00:57:49,894 --> 00:57:51,655 but for those of us that that are 1718 00:57:51,655 --> 00:57:53,974 suspicious about these sorts of things, I mean 1719 00:57:54,054 --> 00:57:55,414 and I think we are we're right to 1720 00:57:55,414 --> 00:57:55,914 be. 1721 00:57:56,909 --> 00:57:58,510 The the sales pitch is gonna look a 1722 00:57:58,510 --> 00:57:59,170 bit cartoonish. 1723 00:57:59,469 --> 00:58:01,469 So I always kinda keep that in mind 1724 00:58:01,469 --> 00:58:03,469 when I see things like this, when I 1725 00:58:03,469 --> 00:58:06,289 see this Elon sale the sales guy. 1726 00:58:06,670 --> 00:58:08,429 And I I always wonder, like, well, maybe 1727 00:58:08,429 --> 00:58:11,309 this messaging isn't for me. When it's obvious 1728 00:58:11,309 --> 00:58:13,885 to me that it's crazy and, you know, 1729 00:58:13,885 --> 00:58:15,565 diabolical, and I look at it and I 1730 00:58:15,565 --> 00:58:17,644 I go, well, maybe everybody else isn't seeing 1731 00:58:17,644 --> 00:58:19,405 it the way I'm seeing it. Maybe maybe 1732 00:58:19,405 --> 00:58:21,244 the way they see it is is some 1733 00:58:21,244 --> 00:58:21,984 other way. 1734 00:58:24,684 --> 00:58:26,704 I need to read that 2002 document. 1735 00:58:27,110 --> 00:58:28,309 I can say that. I'm sure you've seen 1736 00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:29,670 it before too. You know, the it's the 1737 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:31,190 it's the it's the premise for a lot 1738 00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:33,349 of this. The whole, because, you know, what 1739 00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:34,570 it's talking about is 1740 00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:37,750 the merging of the nanotech, biotech, information, and 1741 00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:39,670 cognitive. So it even talks about, like, the 1742 00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:42,125 neuroscience overlap. You know? And this it's like 1743 00:58:42,204 --> 00:58:43,965 this is what's crazy is how long ago 1744 00:58:43,965 --> 00:58:45,484 this has been mapped out. You know? And 1745 00:58:45,484 --> 00:58:47,644 this involves the The United States. You know? 1746 00:58:47,644 --> 00:58:49,644 It's it's a I'll I'll definitely send it 1747 00:58:49,644 --> 00:58:51,164 to you. And James James Corbett did a 1748 00:58:51,164 --> 00:58:52,844 really good breakdown of this one and and 1749 00:58:52,844 --> 00:58:54,570 the whole bigger picture, which I think I'll 1750 00:58:54,570 --> 00:58:55,450 send that to you. I think I have 1751 00:58:55,450 --> 00:58:56,969 it saved as well. It just kinda shows 1752 00:58:56,969 --> 00:58:58,410 you where this has been mapped out, you 1753 00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:00,250 know. And and what's weird is that half 1754 00:59:00,250 --> 00:59:02,250 the store half that conversation, even today, is 1755 00:59:02,250 --> 00:59:04,170 considered to be conspiracy theory. And here they 1756 00:59:04,170 --> 00:59:05,530 are in 2022, 1757 00:59:05,530 --> 00:59:07,950 like, mapping out how these things will converge. 1758 00:59:08,025 --> 00:59:09,704 And then, of course, when Klaus Schwab steps 1759 00:59:09,704 --> 00:59:11,144 out and goes, this is when it's happening, 1760 00:59:11,144 --> 00:59:12,344 you know, it just it kind of all 1761 00:59:12,344 --> 00:59:14,105 clicks together for people that have been watching 1762 00:59:14,105 --> 00:59:16,505 this build. You know, it's very, very strange. 1763 00:59:16,505 --> 00:59:18,105 Well, on on a on a final point 1764 00:59:18,105 --> 00:59:19,704 around this, you know, where what do you 1765 00:59:19,704 --> 00:59:21,385 think some of these next steps will be? 1766 00:59:21,385 --> 00:59:22,904 Right now, it feels like a lot of 1767 00:59:22,904 --> 00:59:26,090 the the coverage, the the media, it's we're 1768 00:59:26,090 --> 00:59:27,769 being pulled in I mean, in right obvious, 1769 00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:31,690 accurate ways. Like, the genocide is is very 1770 00:59:31,690 --> 00:59:33,610 important to highlight and see and cover, but 1771 00:59:33,610 --> 00:59:35,530 it's, you know, it's an ongoing kinetic war. 1772 00:59:35,530 --> 00:59:37,130 My point is that we seem to be 1773 00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:39,255 focusing on things that are in front of 1774 00:59:39,255 --> 00:59:40,775 us that we can cover as opposed to 1775 00:59:40,775 --> 00:59:42,534 some of these deeper points like the great 1776 00:59:42,534 --> 00:59:43,914 reset, like transhumanism, 1777 00:59:44,295 --> 00:59:44,795 technocracy, 1778 00:59:45,174 --> 00:59:47,414 political machinations. You know? So, like, what do 1779 00:59:47,414 --> 00:59:49,014 you think some of these next larger steps 1780 00:59:49,014 --> 00:59:51,275 will be that pull us into that direction? 1781 00:59:51,414 --> 00:59:53,514 You know? Boy. That great reset. 1782 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,140 You know, I I I 1783 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,719 I've been I've been writing recently a lot 1784 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:01,539 about Eugenics, 1785 01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:03,840 on a new book. And and I 1786 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,139 it's just a reminder 1787 01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:09,974 to me that these when you get these 1788 01:00:10,055 --> 01:00:12,295 very powerful people in large groups, they have 1789 01:00:12,295 --> 01:00:12,695 these 1790 01:00:13,095 --> 01:00:14,715 there's two overriding themes. 1791 01:00:15,175 --> 01:00:16,394 The the one is, 1792 01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:19,894 we need to we should all be in 1793 01:00:19,894 --> 01:00:22,315 charge. And if we were to work together 1794 01:00:22,375 --> 01:00:25,114 and inform some sort of world governance structure, 1795 01:00:25,779 --> 01:00:27,719 we could run the world. And secondly, 1796 01:00:28,099 --> 01:00:29,699 this whole thing would work a lot better 1797 01:00:29,699 --> 01:00:31,859 if it wasn't for all these people. Mhmm. 1798 01:00:31,859 --> 01:00:34,019 And as we start to as you you 1799 01:00:34,019 --> 01:00:35,639 mentioned earlier that the acceleration, 1800 01:00:36,259 --> 01:00:36,759 it 1801 01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:39,000 it it feels like we're at the point 1802 01:00:39,219 --> 01:00:40,279 now where 1803 01:00:40,579 --> 01:00:42,255 they're going to start 1804 01:00:43,275 --> 01:00:45,594 the the culling process. I mean, the the 1805 01:00:45,594 --> 01:00:47,695 the vaccines over the last couple of years, 1806 01:00:47,914 --> 01:00:50,074 whether they were meant to do it, you 1807 01:00:50,074 --> 01:00:51,335 know, on 1808 01:00:51,755 --> 01:00:54,339 within hours as as some people suffered or 1809 01:00:54,339 --> 01:00:55,699 whether it was more of, like, a a 1810 01:00:55,699 --> 01:00:57,539 ten year time bomb set on the immune 1811 01:00:57,539 --> 01:00:58,039 system. 1812 01:00:58,659 --> 01:01:01,139 It feels like if you're going to push 1813 01:01:01,139 --> 01:01:03,699 everybody into agenda 2030, and that's been on 1814 01:01:03,699 --> 01:01:05,699 their calendar, not our not my calendar, but 1815 01:01:05,699 --> 01:01:07,875 their calendar for for a long, long time. 1816 01:01:08,034 --> 01:01:10,514 Mhmm. If we're we're getting to the final 1817 01:01:10,514 --> 01:01:12,195 stretch here in the last five years of 1818 01:01:12,195 --> 01:01:14,594 this. And if you're going to make it 1819 01:01:14,594 --> 01:01:15,094 happen, 1820 01:01:16,994 --> 01:01:19,255 it's gonna it's gonna be done through these 1821 01:01:20,219 --> 01:01:22,699 digital means. It feels like that's the the 1822 01:01:22,699 --> 01:01:25,659 calculation that's been made. I so my eyes 1823 01:01:25,659 --> 01:01:26,960 are always on 1824 01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:28,480 the technocracy 1825 01:01:28,940 --> 01:01:31,900 side of things. I I I it's I 1826 01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:33,579 talk a lot about the CBDCs and the 1827 01:01:33,579 --> 01:01:35,824 money and all of that, but but watching 1828 01:01:35,824 --> 01:01:37,125 that, whether it's the 1829 01:01:37,425 --> 01:01:39,744 space fence being built or whether it's just 1830 01:01:39,744 --> 01:01:40,324 the the 1831 01:01:41,065 --> 01:01:41,565 the 1832 01:01:42,304 --> 01:01:44,804 the push of AI or the the dependency 1833 01:01:45,105 --> 01:01:46,864 already a lot of people have on AI, 1834 01:01:46,864 --> 01:01:48,484 which is crazy. But 1835 01:01:49,269 --> 01:01:51,670 I'm that's where I'm I'm keeping my eyes 1836 01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:53,990 on for for the for the for the, 1837 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:55,990 you know, from here on out. I'm watching 1838 01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:58,070 the the techno because and the and the 1839 01:01:58,070 --> 01:02:00,150 reason why I feel that way is because 1840 01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:02,390 on day two of Trump's administration, he walked 1841 01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:04,390 out some of the most dangerous technocrats in 1842 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:04,844 the planet. 1843 01:02:05,324 --> 01:02:07,405 And so I think it pays to watch 1844 01:02:07,405 --> 01:02:09,005 that. Now there's a lot of things going 1845 01:02:09,005 --> 01:02:11,005 on. It's not to say, don't worry about 1846 01:02:11,005 --> 01:02:13,885 what's going on overseas and because I because 1847 01:02:13,885 --> 01:02:15,965 I do. But but but if I have 1848 01:02:15,965 --> 01:02:19,025 to prioritize what's likely to impact my life, 1849 01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:21,980 truth is what's going on in Israel doesn't 1850 01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:22,880 really factor. 1851 01:02:23,659 --> 01:02:25,039 But the the technoctor 1852 01:02:25,340 --> 01:02:27,599 see that the digital side of things 1853 01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:30,860 impacts all of us. And so if they 1854 01:02:30,860 --> 01:02:32,320 can get that locked down, 1855 01:02:32,655 --> 01:02:34,494 then we're in real trouble. So I think 1856 01:02:34,494 --> 01:02:36,675 that that's where my my focus has been. 1857 01:02:36,815 --> 01:02:39,054 I think that it's it's a reasonable place 1858 01:02:39,054 --> 01:02:40,655 to put your focus when you see the 1859 01:02:40,655 --> 01:02:42,815 likes of Sam Altman and Larry Ellison and 1860 01:02:42,815 --> 01:02:45,420 Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and Alex Karp 1861 01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:47,820 and and, of course, the role of JD 1862 01:02:47,820 --> 01:02:49,659 Vance, and you wonder why is that guy 1863 01:02:49,659 --> 01:02:52,539 there. Yep. We know he he's one of 1864 01:02:52,539 --> 01:02:55,280 them. They created him, and he's been installed. 1865 01:02:55,339 --> 01:02:57,739 He's has got an unusual rise to power, 1866 01:02:57,739 --> 01:03:00,074 and it looks like he'll be the next 1867 01:03:00,234 --> 01:03:02,474 one. And so what do these guys have 1868 01:03:02,474 --> 01:03:03,855 going on with him? 1869 01:03:04,394 --> 01:03:05,755 You know? So if we're looking for something 1870 01:03:05,755 --> 01:03:06,954 like, what are we working on in the 1871 01:03:06,954 --> 01:03:08,635 future? What I'm working on in the future 1872 01:03:08,635 --> 01:03:10,175 is watching JD Vance 1873 01:03:10,875 --> 01:03:11,695 to see 1874 01:03:12,315 --> 01:03:14,414 what sort of Trojan horse, 1875 01:03:15,289 --> 01:03:16,510 he's going to become. 1876 01:03:16,889 --> 01:03:19,130 Yeah. Because it feels like it feels like 1877 01:03:19,130 --> 01:03:21,550 he he may be you know, Trump can 1878 01:03:26,329 --> 01:03:28,429 because he's polarizing, but maybe Vance 1879 01:03:28,809 --> 01:03:30,110 can sweet talk people. 1880 01:03:31,244 --> 01:03:32,284 Well, there we go. I lost you for 1881 01:03:32,284 --> 01:03:33,804 a second there. Yeah. But I I agree. 1882 01:03:33,804 --> 01:03:35,724 I I think that Vance is a very 1883 01:03:35,724 --> 01:03:38,284 alarming character. He very much, you know, he 1884 01:03:38,284 --> 01:03:39,644 has a very, you know, I I was 1885 01:03:39,644 --> 01:03:41,244 gonna say has a very kind of Obama 1886 01:03:41,244 --> 01:03:43,244 esque kind of presence, but then I almost 1887 01:03:43,244 --> 01:03:45,125 take that back because he's not as, you 1888 01:03:45,125 --> 01:03:47,068 know and it shouldn't be taken as, like, 1889 01:03:47,068 --> 01:03:48,795 a a praiseworthy thing. They're all monsters. But, 1890 01:03:48,795 --> 01:03:50,521 like, Obama was very good at presenting himself 1891 01:03:50,521 --> 01:03:52,248 as somebody who seemed like he cared or 1892 01:03:52,464 --> 01:03:54,191 you know what I mean? And Grant has 1893 01:03:54,191 --> 01:03:55,918 a little bit of that, but at the 1894 01:03:55,918 --> 01:03:57,965 same time, he's a little bit more, I 1895 01:03:57,965 --> 01:03:58,925 don't even know what the right word would 1896 01:03:58,925 --> 01:04:00,605 be for clumsy at it, I guess. But 1897 01:04:00,605 --> 01:04:01,885 he is better than Trump. Let's put it 1898 01:04:01,885 --> 01:04:03,565 that way. You know? So I definitely worry 1899 01:04:03,565 --> 01:04:05,485 where that goes. And I've already seen people 1900 01:04:05,485 --> 01:04:06,945 on the Republican side of this 1901 01:04:07,324 --> 01:04:09,405 are, like, almost already setting this up. Like, 1902 01:04:09,405 --> 01:04:11,099 the idea of, you know, he's gonna be 1903 01:04:11,340 --> 01:04:13,420 better with the plan for JD Vance. You're 1904 01:04:13,420 --> 01:04:15,340 right. It's already being laid out and very 1905 01:04:15,340 --> 01:04:17,180 well may have been the plan from the 1906 01:04:17,180 --> 01:04:18,780 get go. You know? It's hard to say. 1907 01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:20,619 But I definitely agree with you. I think 1908 01:04:20,619 --> 01:04:22,780 that that is a very obvious focal point. 1909 01:04:22,780 --> 01:04:23,980 Now, I mean, I I would argue though 1910 01:04:23,980 --> 01:04:26,924 that I think that the warfare specifically in 1911 01:04:26,924 --> 01:04:29,565 Gaza is much more interconnected with this agenda 1912 01:04:29,565 --> 01:04:31,644 than most, with the whole plan for, like, 1913 01:04:31,644 --> 01:04:33,724 maybe the first freedom city, Gaza, whatever they're 1914 01:04:33,724 --> 01:04:35,484 talking about. But I but I do agree. 1915 01:04:35,484 --> 01:04:37,085 I think that right now it's obvious. I 1916 01:04:37,085 --> 01:04:39,039 just did a big show about this called 1917 01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:40,960 the technocratic tiptoe where I kinda laid a 1918 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,559 lot of this out in one long you 1919 01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:44,159 know, one quick little four hour video where 1920 01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:45,359 you can just, you know, put it all 1921 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:47,599 together. But important, I think, that how all 1922 01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:49,440 of this kinda comes together and is building 1923 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,234 out in front of us. But I always 1924 01:04:51,234 --> 01:04:52,755 a pleasure talking with you, brother. I look 1925 01:04:52,755 --> 01:04:54,514 forward to the next one and breaking down 1926 01:04:54,675 --> 01:04:56,195 you know, as always, I've got like 50 1927 01:04:56,195 --> 01:04:57,715 different things we could get into, but I 1928 01:04:57,715 --> 01:04:59,474 just I like walking through these with you 1929 01:04:59,474 --> 01:05:00,914 and and kind of sharing our thoughts on 1930 01:05:00,914 --> 01:05:02,755 it. I really do think it it opens 1931 01:05:02,755 --> 01:05:04,119 some, you know, sometimes my eyes to some 1932 01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:05,359 of these things that I wasn't thinking about. 1933 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:06,719 So thanks for joining me again, brother. Look 1934 01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:08,480 forward to Thanks for having me. Anything else 1935 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,079 you wanna drop before we leave? Any upcoming 1936 01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:11,599 events? I would like I would like for 1937 01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:14,019 people to go to activist post and and, 1938 01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:16,914 bookmark that and and find you know, I've 1939 01:05:16,914 --> 01:05:18,594 got a podcast section on there too, and 1940 01:05:18,594 --> 01:05:19,594 we rotate in, 1941 01:05:20,034 --> 01:05:20,534 great 1942 01:05:21,074 --> 01:05:22,054 interviews for, 1943 01:05:22,434 --> 01:05:24,835 from people all over the world, and we've 1944 01:05:24,835 --> 01:05:27,554 got great great writers. You know? It's just 1945 01:05:27,554 --> 01:05:30,114 one stop shop. Independent Media Alliance, you can 1946 01:05:30,114 --> 01:05:32,349 go in there and search through that link, 1947 01:05:32,349 --> 01:05:34,590 that tag. Anything that comes up, 1948 01:05:35,230 --> 01:05:35,630 will, 1949 01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:37,650 you know, will pull 1950 01:05:38,269 --> 01:05:38,769 anything, 1951 01:05:39,469 --> 01:05:41,389 that's been tagged with that. And so there's, 1952 01:05:41,389 --> 01:05:43,230 what, 18 of us in that group. So 1953 01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:45,630 any anything that that they've written, you can 1954 01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:47,785 find it all there. It's a it's just 1955 01:05:47,805 --> 01:05:50,644 a there's a little bit for everybody. And, 1956 01:05:50,644 --> 01:05:52,565 of course, if you're checking it out on 1957 01:05:52,565 --> 01:05:55,224 mobile, we did not build an app specifically 1958 01:05:55,364 --> 01:05:57,364 because we did not want to centralize control 1959 01:05:57,364 --> 01:05:58,724 into the hands of the App Store. So 1960 01:05:58,724 --> 01:06:00,085 you're gonna be on your own to go 1961 01:06:00,085 --> 01:06:01,619 to a browser and just pull it up, 1962 01:06:01,780 --> 01:06:03,140 bookmark it, and do it that way. But, 1963 01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:04,280 but 1964 01:06:04,579 --> 01:06:06,900 please and thank you as far as going 1965 01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:08,579 going to the site. You know, Activist Post 1966 01:06:08,579 --> 01:06:10,420 has been in business for fifteen years. I 1967 01:06:10,420 --> 01:06:13,460 take it seriously that they entrusted me to, 1968 01:06:14,045 --> 01:06:16,925 carry it the the the next step. And 1969 01:06:16,925 --> 01:06:17,985 I think that, 1970 01:06:18,684 --> 01:06:20,125 we do a pretty good job over there 1971 01:06:20,125 --> 01:06:23,244 of curating some information that, that this audience 1972 01:06:23,244 --> 01:06:25,005 of I mean, it's not for everybody. Let's 1973 01:06:25,005 --> 01:06:27,025 be let's be fair. But but this audience, 1974 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,239 100%. You you you you like what we're 1975 01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:31,079 doing at activist post. I'm willing to bet 1976 01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:32,359 you it's more off the more people than 1977 01:06:32,359 --> 01:06:34,280 you think today. I really do. But, yeah, 1978 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,880 please make sure you support an activist post. 1979 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,159 It's been going on a long time, and 1980 01:06:37,159 --> 01:06:39,000 Charlie has taken the helmet. It's it's an 1981 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,114 important aspect of the independent media. There there's 1982 01:06:41,114 --> 01:06:42,835 a lot of good content there, but the 1983 01:06:42,835 --> 01:06:45,074 the the attack on all of this field 1984 01:06:45,074 --> 01:06:46,134 is just constantly 1985 01:06:46,434 --> 01:06:48,594 it's just it's ever present. You know, everyone 1986 01:06:48,594 --> 01:06:50,755 is constantly being you know, it's all two 1987 01:06:50,755 --> 01:06:52,434 steps forward, one step back in this field 1988 01:06:52,434 --> 01:06:53,554 for people that are doing it the right 1989 01:06:53,554 --> 01:06:55,074 way in my opinion. So thanks for for 1990 01:06:55,074 --> 01:06:56,679 keeping that going, brother. And I'll leave it 1991 01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:58,039 there for today. Looking forward to the next 1992 01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:00,519 one. And as always, everybody out there question 1993 01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:02,460 everything. Come to your own conclusions. 1994 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,500 Stay vigilant. 1995 01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:06,920 Thank you. From the president From the president's 1996 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,099 office in the White House in Washington DC, 1997 01:07:09,264 --> 01:07:11,025 we present an address by the president of 1998 01:07:11,025 --> 01:07:14,244 The United States, Dwight d Eisenhower. In holding 1999 01:07:14,304 --> 01:07:14,804 scientific 2000 01:07:15,184 --> 01:07:17,125 research and discovery in respect, 2001 01:07:17,585 --> 01:07:18,484 as we should, 2002 01:07:19,184 --> 01:07:21,824 we must also be alert to the equal 2003 01:07:21,824 --> 01:07:23,045 and opposite danger 2004 01:07:23,425 --> 01:07:25,799 that public policy could itself 2005 01:07:26,260 --> 01:07:28,359 become the captive of a scientific 2006 01:07:29,539 --> 01:07:30,039 technological 2007 01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:31,400 elite.