Welcome to the last American Vagabond. I'm honored
to have Jimmy Doerr back on today to
discuss
a lot of the chaos in the world,
plenty of the things he's been covering on
his show. And, hopefully, we have a,
a non manipulated
interview this time as last time I've mentioned
on my show, it was constantly manipulated. Every
twenty seconds, Jimmy was being booted out. We'll
see if that happens today. It's good to
have you back on, Jimmy. How are you?
Good. Great to see you. Yeah. Before we
get into anything else, I mean, that just
any thoughts on that and how weird that
way you know, did you ever find anything
else out about that? Did that ever happen
in any other interviews? You just No. That
the only time it's the only time it's
ever happened was when the last time with
you. God. This is so weird. There's so
many things like that today, but I'm sure
we can overlap with some of those points
in the conversation today.
I'd like to start with you. I have
a few different things I'd like to get
into. I I think that some of this
stuff you've been covering on your show, and
I and I I think it's always important
to kind of overlap these thoughts and see
how other people see them. And the one
thing I thought to start with is a
positive note. But at the same time, like,
get your thoughts on where this is going
and where the administration is. But you might
have seen this in the news going around
in regard to Kennedy canceling or at least
staying and getting you know, preparing to cancel
nearly $500,000,000
in mRNA contracts.
Before we go into that, though, at the
same time, in an interesting overlap, this is
what Trump was asked just at the same
time this came out in regard to the
contradiction between his stance and and and, where
this has always been going. And so this
I found this interesting driving force behind Operation
Warp Speed, these mRNA vaccines that are the
gold standard. Right. Now your health secretary
is pulling back all the funding for research.
He's saying that the risks outweigh the benefits,
which puts him at odds with the higher
medical community and with you. What is going
on? Research on what? Into mRNA vaccines. Well,
we're gonna look at that. We're talking about
it, and they're doing a very good job.
And, you know, that is
a a pass with Operation Warp Speed
was, whether you're Republican or Democrat, considered one
of the most incredible things ever done in
this country.
The efficiency, the
the way it was done, the distribution, everything
about it was
has been amazing.
But, you know, that was,
now a long time ago,
and we're on to other things. But we
are speaking about it. We have meetings about
it in, tomorrow, actually, tomorrow at 12:00,
and we'll determine.
We're looking for other answers to other problems,
to other sicknesses and diseases,
and I think we're doing really well. Yes,
ma'am. Come as
So his typical meandering non answer aside, what
what do you take from that? And and,
you know, the conversation in general, like, positive
note, but at the same time, you know,
Stargate, everything else, how do you read all
that? What are your thoughts on it? Well,
I think what Trump,
he should have been more prepared for that
question because I think a better answer to
that question from Trump's perspective
would have been, yeah, we were in the
what we were being told by all the
experts was a deadly pandemic
that was gonna wipe out the the western
civilization, so we had to get on it
and take,
emergency use authorization that we normally don't. So
this is an emergent we're not an emergency
anymore,
and, we're gonna study this even closer.
And, the mRNA platform,
seems to have more problems than we thought
it did,
and that doesn't take away from the, you
know, amazing job we did on warp speed.
But, you know, that I wouldn't handle it
like that. Like, hey. We were in a
tough spot
when we went with the,
COVID 19 backs, and we're not in that
spot anymore. And so it's time to really
take a good look at the cost benefit
analysis,
make sure that that's the way he shoulda
handled it. And I think it's
great that RFK is the r the mRNA
vaccine platform
has never worked.
I agree.
And it it didn't work this last time.
So they had to change the definition
of what a vaccine was. Literally in the
in the dictionary,
change the definition
of what a vaccine is so they could
so the COVID nineteen vaccine could be considered
a vaccine. Before, it used to be a
vaccine, gave you immunity from a virus.
Now that they changed that and then it
to it, it creates an immune response
to a virus,
which makes it a therapeutic
at best.
And, with all the adverse events,
the cost benefit analysis is in the negative.
So Right. It it got it seems it
seems,
from all the analysis I've seen,
from people pushing back on the establishment narrative
around the COVID vaccine,
It seems that it causes the cost benefit
analysis isn't there. It's too high of a
cost for the benefit you get from it.
And
If any. And if if any. And,
in in fact, the the more of those
vaxx the Cleveland Clinic study showed that the
the more vaccines you got, the more likely
you were to become infected with COVID. Just
like last year's flu vaccine, by the way
Mhmm. If you took the flu vaccine last
year,
you were twenty seven percent more likely to
get sick from the flu. So that's called
negative efficacy, meaning
you would have you would have been healthier
and better off not taking the vaccine. If
you did take the flu, it's that's also
not a vaccine. That's why they it'll they
often refer to it as a flu shot
because it's not a vaccine,
and the flu vaccine doesn't work.
It's it's interesting.
It certainly doesn't work the way they make
you wanna think it works. Yeah. Yeah. It's
so it might work in some kind of
narrow definition
that they give, but it certainly doesn't work
the way people think it works. Like, I'm
gonna get the flu flu shot, and then
I will have immunity from this year's flu.
Or,
but that's and that's not what it does.
Yeah. It works at not at giving you
the flu. It works at maybe giving you
myocarditis. Right? Guillain Barre syndrome. But but the
the thing is you bring up the 27.
I haven't seen that, and that's interesting. Because
I think you've also covered the the study
that came out right before the COVID nineteen
illusion dynamic, and it was one that the
Pentagon put forward. Remember this? And it was
what? It was, was it thirty something percent
more likely to get the get the flu,
but it was also included in coronaviruses.
So I'd have to check out that study
because it's how often is it like, is
it ever a point in which the study
shows that they actually did what they claim?
You know, it's like that's so I agree
with your point. It's like the the the
verbiage. Is it work in the way that
they want it to work, or is it
actually even effective in any way? But, yeah,
going back to the the mRNA thing, you
know, it's interesting, though. I I I agree
with this first simplest point. Like, obviously, he
I don't think he did that on accident.
I think Trump has a way where he
tries to keep himself distanced from certain things
that are uncomfortable
by doing that exactly. But I agree. You
should have had a, you know, a better
answer about entirely. But what do you sense
from that, though? Do you think, one, is
RFK Jr gonna actually go through with that?
And how does that make sense with the
Stargate platform and all the other things they're
doing? And with Trump's response, it seems to
suggest like he's already kinda he said, well,
we'll we'll get we'll talk about that. He
also praised Warp Speed, by the way, again.
You know? But what are your thoughts on
that?
Well, he's put himself in a real pickle
because his base
is definitely against the mRNA
platform and vaccine because,
they've done their research,
and they've looked into it, and they know
that it's never been used successfully.
And so and then here, he doesn't wanna
give up.
His,
pitch his big achievement, which was operation warp
speed. So he's been saying it is you
know, when he says that it's an achievement
in operation warp speed
on the campaign when he was campaigning, his
crowd would boo him. I know.
So,
so this is just another you know, this
is just Trump being caught between a rock
and a hard place.
He knows
I think he you know, the the other
weird thing is that Larry Ellison,
who's a big
donor, one of the I think he's the
second richest guy in the world now, maybe.
Anyway,
he's he gave a speech at the White
House talking about how mRNA is a feature
and that we can give your own individualized
cancer vaccine for you personally. And, you know,
it's just all,
wishful thinking. It's all pie in the sky.
This is not happening. That, again, they haven't
figured out
how to safely,
administer an mRNA vaccine.
And,
yeah. So
is that it? Yeah. There it is. Yeah.
Yeah. So,
his believe me, his base doesn't want anything
to do with the transhumanism
or mRNA vaccines
or, or the warp the warp speed or
the COVID vax. They don't want anything to
do with it. And then they're and they're
correct.
So,
yeah, again, that's just Trump not being ready
for that question. I think, you know, RFK
has to do everything methodically
because he has powerful enemies.
And not only does he have big pharma
as his enemy, but he has the media
that's bought by big pharma. He has the
medical journals that are bought by big pharma.
He has the medical boards
and associations like the p American Pediatrics Association,
places like that. They're all bought and paid
for by big pharma. So they come at
him. They're launching
lawsuits. So RFK has to make sure he
has all his t's crossed and all his
i's dotted
when he decides to do something, like when
he decides to stop recommending
the COVID nineteen vaccine for pregnant women or
for children
or for, you know, for boys 30, stuff
like that.
He has to make sure he has the
data already, and there's not the data there.
So he has to go out and do
these tests.
And, you know, they've never done just for
instance, they they don't they've never done a
placebo controlled,
test for,
modern day vaccines.
So,
he has to now somehow figure out how
to go do those tests, get that data,
so he can have the science backing him
up. And he knows
that he has to have a watertight,
as far as the science goes. It has
to be watertight. He has to he has
the data,
because he's a lawyer, and he knows how
they can pick you apart when it comes
to a lawsuit over these these things. But
what's interesting is people in the Maha movement
are upset that he's not moving fast enough,
that things aren't moving fast enough at HHS.
And, of course, no. We all want them
to move faster.
I, I wanted him but the the it's
all going in the right direction. It's just
not going fast enough for people. Yeah. Okay.
But I I don't agree with that. My
life, it's going in the right direction. I
don't agree with that, though. And I think
I think a lot of people in the
Baha movement don't. But I do think I
think that, like I said, I I am
like, last night too, I'm very, very hopeful
that this is the indication that you're right.
You know what I mean? Like, that this
is the first step of that. I really
hope that's the case as anybody should because
that this is you know, it's not about
politics. This is what I you know, the
right direction. But, you know, how do you
fold in, like, the support of the MMR
shots or the, you know, the the many
different moves that have been taken that don't
align with this. Or like the FDA
coming out and making it clear that the
safe and effective information around these shots were
showing it was safe and effective. You know,
there's a lot of different points there. But
I agree with you. The logic shows or,
you know, his past work speaks for itself,
and the and the direction,
even this this last point included, seems to
show that there are places where he is
definitely trying. But, like, with fluoride or different
places, like, they're now appealing the fluoride ruling.
Right? Like, so these things you know, I
maybe you're right. Maybe all of this is
indication that somebody else is working around him.
And to your point, like, that maybe wouldn't
work and be in his best interest to
come up and wave out and say this
is happening because then something but there are
moves that just don't align with that idea.
What do you think like, just taking MMR,
for example.
Something he built a huge momentum on previously
and very clearly did take a different stance
on it later. How do you read that?
Is that just trying to get, you know,
kind of like a a head fake to
get these things done? How would you read
that?
I've you know, again, I I don't know
what the
inner workings of what's happening,
but I think that he has to that
maybe the data is not there. He has
to go out and create that data. He
has to go out and create those tests
and do double blind studies and placebo,
tests on those vaccines so then he could
go, here's the data. Right now, I'm sure
that they buried that data,
that would
that would show his point of view. And
so he has to go and create it.
That that's my guess. That's what I'm that's
what I'm guessing.
And, yeah, I mean, you know, I saw
Vinny Prasad before he got forced out. No.
That's another thing. That's like Interesting.
Vinny Prasad got forced out, and he did
a press conference
where he, you know, ripped the COVID nineteen
vaccine, and he told you the truth about
it, about how much myocarditis
and how many adverse events and all the
horrible side effects and how, they also manipulated
the data around it. He did a, like,
a fifteen minute press conference, and he really
laid it out. I covered that on my
show. And, I was like, wow. They're really
also said it was effective in that press
conference, though. Right? So do you think he
was you know? So did he go ahead.
I I mean, to say that that's what
he said in that, I think, is
a misframing of that press. That press conference
came out with both barrels against the COVID
nineteen. I'm sorry, Jamie. Just to be clear,
not that press conference. The when the FDA
came out with him and McCary, right, they
they made they made it very clear that
this they went through the evidence around the
COVID nineteen injections and said that this the
evidence said it was safe and effective, and
then was reiterated in front of Congress. Now
my point is, we all agree, and I
you would well know that's not true. And
then when he comes out and says it
elsewhere, my point is, what do you think
that is? Do you think he was being
held back from saying that when he was
in the administration? I mean, I think that's
quite obvious, but I'm just trying to get
how you read that.
Yeah. I mean, I remember,
I covered,
doctor McCurry saying that on CBS Mhmm. Morning
news, and, he was acting like he didn't
know
yet whether
a a healthy 11 year old girl
should get her, you know, tenth booster or
something.
And he said the data's not there. And
I and I'm you know, I'm like, well,
we all know. So I I don't know
why he said that. I don't know why
they're saying that stuff, but I do know
that they've stopped recommending.
So they're basically doing the Barrington declaration right
now. So the Barrington declaration that people know
was Mhmm. People like Jay Bhattacharya,
and lots of other people leading in the
field
that at the beginning of COVID said you
shouldn't try to give everybody this COVID vaccine.
You should just target the people who are
the most vulnerable, the elderly, people with
comorbidities.
And so that was that that part of
it. And it seems like that's where they
are right now with the COVID nineteen vaccine.
Do you agree with that? They're recommending with
the it's a people who are, you know,
elderly and people because as we know now,
COVID really only affected the people who are
elderly or people with comorbidities.
It was only deadly to those people,
just like the flu as Bill Gates said.
But a little different. Do you agree with
that, though, the the the in the Barrington
declaration, like, that point specifically, do you agree
that it should be like, what's your stance
on the in the injection? Let's just say
to be specific, the ones that we went
through during the COVID nineteen dynamic, which are
pretty much the same thing we're dealing with
now. Do you agree that's that some people
could benefit from it? And, you know, or
do you think it's just a no go
for everybody?
I you know, again, I'm I'm not a
doctor.
And and no matter how old I was,
I wouldn't take that vaccine.
Yeah. I mean, I this is why I
get so confused by this is that, you
know, we see this. Right? And I think
that, you know, we've all had our different
journeys through this. And I think, interestingly, how
most people, even largely Democrats at this point,
are coming to a point that there's we
were misled. And so it's interesting that they
are now you know, what's coming around is
sort of like a, well, it's okay for
some people. And I just think that's one
of the issues with, like, specifically the Maha
movement. Tally, doctor Bowden was just on Joe
Rogan, just kinda laying out all this stuff,
which I'm really glad to see, by the
way. And she, you know, she's very, very
critical of the of the movement in general
because it's, you know, it's hard to take
at face value these these steps
as positive when, you know, we all seem
to acknowledge that they know it's bad for
everybody and that RFK was literally saying that
before. And then it's like, well, you know,
for some and it's like, I get the
point though. Like, if you're forced to play
through politics that maybe that's the best you
can do. I just have a hard time
accepting that. That's what I think. Yeah. I
think that so for RFK to get,
his nomination
confirmed, he had to make a lot of
concessions to the senate. He has to make
he had to make a concession to a
I'm I'm blanking on the senator's name.
But to get his vote for confirmation, he
had to promise that he would run
everything past this one senator who's the head
of this one committee.
And so and he would have a monthly
meeting with him and that he and he
had to promise that he wouldn't take away
people's vaccines. So I think, you know, politics,
you don't like to see how politics is
made. That's that's why it's called making the
sausage. Mhmm. So I think
he's he's going as far as he can
go as fast as he can go.
And it's certainly
you it's, you know, it's certainly a thousand
times better than it was under the previous
FDA
than or the previous HHS or Joe Biden's.
It's a I mean, before, they were telling
everybody,
you know, that you gotta get it, and
then now we're back to no. Nobody needs
to get
it except for people who are just like
the flu shot, except people are really old.
That's fair. But so that is I mean,
it's a it's a 95%
sea change. And In regard to that one
thing. Disappointing, it's not a 100,
but that's how politics works. Yeah. I mean,
so in regard to that one thing, I
you could argue that, you know, they've it's,
like, yeah, clearly very different than saying everyone
has to take it or you're gonna be
put in jail or whatever else. But there's
a lot more going on. You know? I
think that today like, I've off recently, I've
been wondering more and more about whether it
was the agenda, whatever we think that is,
was even really about the injection, but more
so about the technology and where it's going.
And I think we've moved beyond that, not
not necessarily in the sense that people will
still work at making these things and governments
and people will be involved, but that the
agenda itself
is not necessarily focused on forcing everybody to
get a shot or whatever they were doing
through that. And so my point is that
where the administration as a whole still continues
to go, whether RFK isn't being forced to
do things he doesn't like or not, I
just don't agree with the thing that it
I I feel like things are getting, in
some cases, a lot worse. You know? And
and a lot of you know, it it's
not just the medical field either. It's about
the way these things fold into, know, like
you've talked about, Palantir surveillance, you know, from
a genomic level, like the biodigital convergence. You
know, you've talked about all these things, and
it's like, that's what I worry about where
this is going. And I I worry that,
you know, we're if we stay focused on
this this one discussion
and, you know, we missed the forest for
the trees. You know what I mean? That
kind of a thing. And, Doug, you know,
have your thoughts on that? And I I
wanted to get into some Washington DC stuff
too.
Yeah.
Again,
it's the first time in my life I've
had any amount
of,
trust in the,
FDA and the CDC
and HHS.
And
so, you know, you see that
you saw that they're having lawsuits filed against
them left and right for doing the right
thing, for trying to
Oh, yeah. About the m m, the the
MNRA
platform,
about the COVID vaccine.
They're having, you know, incendiary articles written all
over the place from The New York Times
to everywhere,
saying that they're taking away our vaccines. You
know, he said he promised he wouldn't, and
now he is. And Mhmm. It's, you know,
so they're really so,
you know, it's it's when the mainstream news,
when the pharma bot news starts complementing RFK,
that's when I'm gonna get nervous.
Yeah. I mean, that's always a good point
to make that, you know, we should be
questioning their intentions. But I think it's just
as logical to say when, you know
it's not like if they don't say it
the opposite is true kind of a thing.
Like, it's a good rule of thumb. But
I think today, more than ever, the power
structures are very aware that, you know, we
don't trust any of them and the media
in general. And so there's, like, new elements
of how this goes forward. But but your
points are well taken, and I agree. I
think we should consider it. We should consider,
like I said, from the force point that
I really genuinely hope this is the beginning
of that path. I really do. And I
think that if it does go that direction,
you know, it will eventually challenge a lot
of things like Trump continuing
interesting to see how this is beginning to
like, I'm surprised that journalist, whoever per whatever
you wanna call the person in that room,
was asking that question. That's been an obvious
question for for years, but suddenly it comes
out. You know, it's kinda to your point
probably because now it's becoming acceptable to go
after them from within inside that paradigm. You
know? It's just interesting.
Yeah.
Go ahead. Go ahead. No. I'm just I'm
still surprised
at how most people
that I know, anyway, the people I come
in contact with
in comedy clubs here in Hollywood
and people I know in Los Angeles, how
most people,
are not interested in COVID or or making
people,
that the fact that they were lied to
on such an unbelievable level Right. The fact
that they were get used as guinea pigs,
the fact that the lack of
and, you know, I read somebody wrote, something
on Twitter,
about why. And it's because if they admit
that,
then they have to admit that they took
part
in the most fascistic thing that's ever been
perpetrated on the American people and that they
themselves
were,
acted in monstrous ways because they did.
The people who were shaming you for questioning
and having healthy skepticism
about big pharma and the government, the people
who shamed you for that,
the people who ostracized
and and smeared people for that. They were
they were acting in monstrous ways, and they
were propping up, the biggest act of fascism
in my lifetime
that'll be perpetrated on America. I mean, there's
nothing more Nazi like than forcing people to
take experimental medical treatments, or you can't go
to work to feed your family and pay
your mortgage,
or you can't go to school, or you
can't go to college, or you you can't
travel,
or you can't, you know, have lunch.
So, yeah, I I,
I think that's a a big a big
part of it that that people I'm I
still can't get over
how many people don't have the integrity to
stand up and say something. And my favorite
comedians, you know, they all all almost to
all of them got it wrong except for
Joe Rogan.
Almost I can't almost all of them got
it wrong and, not Dave Chappell was one.
Right? Or and what was the what was
the guy that was on set,
from Half Baked? Well, I forget his name.
He came out and did that really great
skit. That's one I can remember too. I
forget his name. I'll look it up. But
there there was a few of them that
did stand out, but you're right. It was
very few and far between. Why do you
think that is? You think they were just
afraid?
I think that,
From comedy?
I I think that they,
I think they kinda believed what they were
saying, but all it took was a little
bit of fear. Mhmm.
And they and when you mix it with,
hating Trump. Right? So they were very very
clever. The establishment was very clever. Even though
Trump was rah rah for the vaccine,
they somehow made it that,
he was anti if you're a Trumper, you're
anti it was really quite a sleight of
hand. Yeah. So all the people who were
posing Trump
indignantly, like, as if Trump was the problem
instead of the system that made people desperate
enough to vote for Trump was the problem,
those same people who failed to see that
it was eight years of Obama's failed policies,
eight years of Obama bailing out the banks
while kicking people out of their homes, eight
years of Barack Obama giving you a right
wing health care plan that benefited,
the big pharma and the insurance companies
and him taking bribes from the banks so
we don't have a functioning banking set. They
they failed to realize
that that's what gave us Trump. They just
focused on Trump exactly what the establishment and
the media wanted them to do. So we're
just I guess, you know, the most of
the comedians who I used to look towards,
you know, they're not that smart.
They're not George Carlin, it turns out.
Far from it. And they're just as easily
manipulated by propaganda
to the point where if you're a comedian
and then you're shaming people
for questioning the establishment propaganda or the establishment
near or you're questioning there, and you're shaming
people for doing that, you have lost the
plot a 100%
at what it means to be a comedian.
And it just turns out that they're not
that great. It just turns out they can
be there are people who who have the
gift of being funny, but they don't have
a gift of integrity
or they don't have the gift of, I
don't I don't know what the whatever you
would say George Carlin and Bill Hicks had,
they don't have that. They're very,
you know, they're very their brains are very
malleable by the establishment,
and they're they can use all their comedy
powers
to prop up the establishment instead of poke
holes in the establishment narrative, which is what
they're supposed to do. It was Right. Again,
it's it's a very I lost a lot
of friends now, and I lost a lot
of respect for a lot of people,
during COVID. I no. That's no joke. It
it's still really hard on me. And, you
know, I miss those people because they're fun
to hang around with,
but I just have lost all respect for
them. And and that goes for most of
the people that I, used to hang out
with in Hollywood.
I just don't you know? Not only did
they,
they'd be they were one of those people
who shamed and slandered people like me,
for questioning and and for correctly
questioning and being having healthy skepticism. Turns out
100% correct.
And, so I I just it's it's just
left a bitter taste in my mouth. I
try not to be bitter about it, but
it's depressing if I think about it too
much. And yeah. So I'm still shocked that,
you know, you people are still angry at
Joe Rogan
and me,
for telling them the truth about ivermectin,
but they're not angry at doctor Fauci who
we all everyone now admits or accepts
that he funded the virus that they all
freaked out about
and that we and that they hate Joe
Rogan over, but they're not angry at the
guy who would literally fund it to invent
that virus and then lied about it. So
that's to me, that just shows cognitive dissonance,
and it goes back to the fact that
they cannot allow themselves
to admit that they were wrong about it
because admitting that they were wrong about it
means that they were monsters.
I'm glad you brought that up again. I
think another a point that I think is
important to consider in all that is more
is the family part of it too, is
that you have mothers and fathers and sibling,
you know, that near force their children to
do these things. And so they'll never want
to admit to themselves that they did that.
You know what I mean? And that's a
really powerful thing to think about. But to
to to the to the, the, you know,
the comedy aspect of it, it's I it's
it's clearly, and I think in a lot
of other fields too, it's just people are
just they just go along to get along.
And that's sad, especially with comedy as you're
pointing out. That's, you know, where it, you
know, that's their that's it's a form of
pushing back against the authority when you really
look at it correctly, you know? And so
I think it's interesting that there's so many
people just kind of going on. But to
your point as well, like you've said before,
and I've seen others in the in the
comedic field make the point that there was
a huge lull during COVID nineteen. It was
just very bad comedy and very, you know,
object like, not very critical, very kind of,
like, making fun of people that didn't follow
the narrative. You know? Yes. It's sad. Top
comedians, going on for for
fifteen minutes, twenty minutes at a clip going
on in their comedy specials, making fun of
people
who questioned authority.
It is the most mind blowing thing,
and, you know, they've had to bend themselves
into pretzels
to make so they were making the anti
intellectual argument in their comedy specials, and they
had to dress it up as it's the
we're the smart people.
And, no, you're you're just the,
propagandized
people. You're you're the you're the people who
still believe in the two party system. You're
you're the you're the perfect dupe of the
establishment,
and that's the irony.
Yeah. It is. It is. And then what
and right now, I think that's what's leading
the charge in all of these fields. Mainstream,
alternative media, anything, are people that are, like,
almost not even aware that they're being played
and used. You know, like, throughout the way
all these different mechanisms work. It's it's a
crazy time, man. It definitely is. Limited time
in general, I'd like to go into something
else that I wanted your thoughts on that
I think is really interesting.
Have you seen the conversation, both the previous
times that's been floated, I think, even in
the past administration and then recently about the
federalizing DC point? It's it's been go ahead.
No. No. I,
I know they brought it up before.
I I don't know the ins and outs
of that argument. I think it's probably a
bad idea.
Well, I I would imagine that's that's
my flex is that it's not a good
idea.
It's it's certainly anti
conservative or anti libertarian. You wanna have people's
decisions made as close to home as possible.
You wanna give it over the federal government
to run a city. I think that's a,
I bet they can you know, as badly
as bad as DC is run, I guess,
I'm sure they could do a worse job.
Yeah. No. I agree. But it the what's
interesting to me is the the whole thing
is really interesting in its own right. Like,
the reality of what DC is, you know,
not having statehood and what that means for
the people that live there, and the long
time argument of wanting statehood. But it's today,
it's more it's interesting to me the overlap,
and I wanna play another clip about this,
in regard to a a rumor that was
going around Washington DC that I've heard more
than once that I can't necessarily verify, which
is why I haven't played it. It's, like,
a few months old. But now coming back
around as the with the Freedom City overlap
and now the conversation of federalizing
DC, whether that's what the the what they
actually think when they're saying that, but controlling
it from, like, the executive branch level. They'll
play this clip and it'll probably, you know,
add some thought to this and how this
overlap can be quite alarming with the, like,
the technocratic Peter Thiel element.
Politics. And I just got back from a
trip in Washington, DC. And I wanna tell
you the absolutely unhinged rumor I heard from
current and former federal workers and people on
Capitol Hill about what Donald Trump is about
to do next. Because if it's true, it
will alter the course of American history forever.
I wanna preface this by saying I'm not
a journalist. What I'm about to share with
you is just a rumor, though I did
hear it from multiple people who do not
know each other from multiple areas of the
federal government. So with all those disclaimers, I'm
going to share this with you anyway because
I think you deserve to know. Long story
short, Donald Trump is trying to give Washington,
DC to billionaire Peter Thiel. I mean that
literally, not figuratively. Like, he's trying to give
a billionaire
control over the land and the people within
Washington DC. The specific rumor is that instead
of granting Washington DC statehood like its residents
have been demanding for years, he wants to
actually roll back the little bit of independence
that they already have of self government. Apparently,
he's considering turning the district into what some
call a freedom city. Proponents of Freedom Cities
advocate for areas and territories that are governed
and owned completely by corporations.
Now she goes on. That's the gist of
it, though, so I have to watch the
whole thing. You know? It's just first, what,
you know, what do you think about
that overlap and where that goes? Like, the
Freedom City thing is very interesting and, like,
Prospera and Peter Thiel funding it with Marc
Andreessen and those two being directly involved with
the idea of Freedom City's old technocratic thing,
you know, what what comes to your mind?
Doesn't sound good. That's what comes to mind.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Sounds good. And it seems, again, to be
another,
betrayal of the of what MAGA stands for.
And,
you know, I wonder if Trump would get
elected if he ran again. I mean, the
what what what Trump and the Republicans
have in their favor
is the same thing that the Democrats have
in their favor is that their opponents are
so repulsive.
And because if if Trump wasn't running against
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden or Tim Wall,
he he wouldn't know. I mean, any a
decent any decent candidate,
but they weren't. They have the they have
a they're running against the worst people in
the world. Do you think that's by design?
Like, that that's made that way? Go ahead.
Yes. I've well,
we know it's by design because of you
I'm sure you know the Pied Piper theory.
So that was when the Clintons actually called
up
Donald Trump and convinced him to run for
president in 2016
because they thought he would be the easiest
to beat.
So he they thought that, they would be
able to get negative press on him, and
they would be able to make him out
to be a buffoon and all that stuff.
And so they literally handpicked him.
And so, of course,
there's a big interest in the establishment in
keeping that's why Bernie Sanders and AOC
are so important,
and Donald to the Democratic Party as Donald
Trump is to the Republican Party because people
had had it with the Republican Party,
which is why Donald Trump was able to
wipe the flow with them in twenty sixteen's
primary very easily. People were done with the
establishment just like people were done with the
establishment democratic party because, and Bernie Sanders revealed
that. He had at least half the people
who are voting in a Democratic primary voting
for a guy who wanted to blow up
the Democratic Party. And so but it turns
out that Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders and
AOC and people like that are just there
to make sure people stay invested in this
two party system.
And if they and it's, you know, someone
else but I think maybe it was Glenn
Ford at the Black Agenda Report, maybe not.
Someone else said this was that, you know,
we'd be better off if we didn't have
an AOC or a Bernie Sanders
because what they do is they give people
the false hope that there's somebody in the
Democratic party fighting for you and that that
and that,
duopoly politics is viable to help you.
And it just keeps getting worse every year.
It doesn't get better. It's the ratchet effect.
Right? And it just keeps get getting worse
and worse. And so, yeah, I think that
the, you know, Donald Trump,
the he's just completely,
almost completely
you know, just just when it comes back
down how about when it comes down to
protected classes of people? Right? Everybody hated that
the left protected the everything was racist, everything
was homophobic,
everything was anti trans, and you had to
have these rules and laws that created protected
classes of people.
And that was, you know, that
that was repulsive to most people who consider
themselves conservative Americans
and anybody who's a liberal either. I am
a real liberal, which is I am.
And,
and then he just replaces it. He just
creates a whole new protected class. Right. And,
and then he starts to enforce it, and
that protected class
are Zionists. And they but he does it
under the guise of Jews. Right? Even though
most Jews I know are not Zionists.
Right. And so he then he starts to
you know, how the left created
hate speech.
And then so now they can control you,
which is really a thought crime. And so
he's doing the same thing. And then he's
instead of, you know, going after,
drug cartel leaders
and and gang members,
who are here illegally, he's going after people
who are here legally,
who are,
in college and following the rules,
and he's kicking them out of the country
for their thoughts, their thought crap. And not
even their bad thoughts about America. It's their
bad thoughts about a foreign country. Accurate thoughts.
It's not accurate. It's the end of the
day. Go ahead. Sorry. Donald Trump is he
it's just another
you know, it seems to me this is
another betrayal of the MAGA movement. If they
do this thing, federalizing
Washington, DC, you know, conservatives
and Republicans, for as long as I can
remember, have issued
the federal government taking control
and that they always wanted the control
of communities to be at the local level.
Mhmm. And so this is the exact opposite.
This is just like one more step
in their, you know, fifteen minute city,
of the entire country. You know? They would
that's what that's what they're and it's it's
a globalist agenda.
It's not Definitely. It's not just in America.
So,
I don't know how much longer Donald Trump
can keep sheep herding people into the Republican
Party.
Probably as long as people
like Kamala Harris are the face of the
Democratic, Chuck Schumer Right. Kamala Harris, AOC,
Bernie Sanders, you know, phonies like that.
I I think that that that's really the
depth of that. That's why we that the
reason why we can't make any progress in
America and why we can't have nice things
is because of that. They they have people
like Trump and Bernie that sheep herd people
back into the two party system. And let's
remember, the two parties
agree on all the worst things. They all
agreed on the Ukraine war. They all agreed
on the Syrian war, the Afghanistan war, the
Libyan war, the Iraq war. They all agreed
on giving
a right wing health care plan to our
they all agree on the worst things. They
all agree on Pentagon funding. They all agree
on Israel funding. They all agree on the
exact the most they all agree on keeping
you from having
a functioning health care system that doesn't bankrupt
you when you get sick. They, all agree
on not having a functioning banking system.
They all agree on the that's the that's
the irony of all this. They all agree
on that stuff. But, again, I I know
very, quote, unquote, smart people in Hollywood, the
people we're just talking about, the people at
the top of comedy,
who have no fucking idea
how, propagandized
and controlled they are. They really people still
walking around tweet tweeting out, Facebooking how much
better the Democratic party is,
Joe Biden was than Donald Trump. It's just
a joke. It's It's they don't care that
they were lied to, that they were being
led by a a demented guy for forced
that that doesn't they they still they still
talk about Donald Trump lying. Does Donald Trump
lie? Yes. Why do you but they have
to pretend that Donald Trump invented lying in
in Washington, DC. The whole goddamn
city runs on lies. They're lying from start
to finish. The whole thing. You think they
aren't lying. Joe Biden proved how much he
lied. So it's a very frustrating time for
me, and,
you know, it should be for all Americans
because there's nowhere to turn. And I don't
know how they're gonna keep
So they're gonna keep doing this. They're gonna
keep pretending
that Bernie Sanders and AOC
are fighting for the working man, and they're
gonna keep pretending that Donald Trump is fighting
the deep state. Those are they're out to
all pretend. Yes. I agree. And, you know,
you made a good point there on both
of the part about AOC, like, that they
want you have these ridiculous representations
that make it so, you know, you either
choose to side with the party regardless how
bad they are or, you know, choose the
other side. Either way, it's a false binary.
That's what's so frustrating. But the point you're
making there is that you have people that
see it to a degree. But they, you
know, they see the Republican, the Donald Trump,
and they're lying and that they that that
administration's manipulating. But then you're saying or tweeting
about the greatness of the Democratic Party. And
the problem is that they it's the same
thing from the right right now. They're at
this line where they I think every problem
exists on the other side of the paradigm
and they will not allow themselves to see
it in themselves. And it's I actually think
that's a dwindling number. I think that is
getting less I think less and less people
are falling into that and it's because it's
just that obvious today. But it is still
working with some and I think that's what
I'm worried about. Going back to the Washington
DC point and just technocracy in general, the
Palantir surveillance of this country, the Israeli infiltration,
the globalism as you rightly pointed out, that
this is, you know, this is like a
desperate rush to get to this point because
they're losing control. Whatever that day is, the
power structure that's currently here. That is correct.
And, you know, Hillary Clinton said if we
can't,
I I forget that. I'm gonna butcher the
quote, but she said, you know, if we
lose our power to censor,
then we're we're gonna lose the whole game.
And so, yeah, they they if they lose
the power of the narrative, which they've been
able to handle. Right? That's why the consolidation
of the media in 1996
with the telecommunications
act, which was ushered in from Bill Clinton,
consolidated the power so they can that's why
they're able to pull up something like COVID
because they controlled the narrative. There wasn't an,
a major news outlet that wasn't, completely
bought and paid for by Big Pharma to
give a counter narrative and give it legitimacy.
It was only so all we had was
Joe Rogan's platform
or a smaller platform like mine, and they
could easily,
you know, write articles
in all the other,
publications
to slander and smear us and discredit us.
And so there wasn't a legitimate
news outlet,
left because they're all owned by the same
six companies. Right? Now it's maybe even five.
Yeah. It's not enough. They keep consolidating exactly
what Mark said, capitalism eats itself. Let's look
what's happening with CBS
and Paramount,
which is owned they they own CBS. They
own Paramount. They own Comedy Central and MTV
and all the they own all these things.
And now even a bigger company, Skynet or
whatever it's called, is coming to buy them,
and with an even richer guy, Larry Ellison.
And so,
we have even less choice. So it's like
George Carlin says, you get 40 different kinds
of cereal.
You only get two health insurance companies. Right.
You only get the three inch you know,
so that that's,
you you only you only you only have
a couple of media companies, and they all
work for the same people. It's, you know,
it's it somebody should do a documentary on
how often,
Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity agree on things.
That's a good well, that's exactly you're saying
a second ago is that when it really
matters, they seem to all be on the
same page. And so let let let's talk
about to kind of wrap the last fifteen
minutes about Epstein and and where this is
how everything we've kinda discussed today, I think
that topic and, really, I I truly tell
me what you think. I think it's more
about the Israel overlap to it that has
caused this to be what it is, but
has fractured what's going on right now. And
so it just I'll just start by pointing
this out that Trump again today as Glenn
Greenwald's pointing out, came out again and and
said and called the the I I I
have the clip if you wanna hear wanna
see it, but called it a whole lot.
You wanna see it? Okay. Let's watch it.
Sure.
The driving force behind operation
That's not the one. Hold on.
I think it was
shoot. Maybe I don't have it. Well, here.
I'm gonna I'll set you up to talk
about it, and then I'll grab it while
while we're looking at this. So the point
was,
a hoax, and, also,
that the the the secondary release of more
information
is just a Democrat lie. Like, how do
you even try to pull things like that
off when when when they're the ones telling
us that more releases are gonna come out?
So give me your thoughts on that, and
I'll grab that clip, and we can play
it.
So Trump again calls her Epstein files called
here it is.
Call calls the the files a hoax in
general and and basically says that even the
idea that more information is gonna come out
from their administration is just simply like a
Democrat lie. And just just so it just
continues every day to day insulting his own
base, calling them weaklings for caring about something
that he made sure or I should be
more clear, his administration.
He did play the part in it, but
Cash and Bongino and everybody pushing the idea
that this was going to be
you know, would bring down the deep state.
The democrats would be exposed. Okay. I got
it. Let's watch
it. There we go.
The man's posting a gathering this evening to
talk about how to respond to the Epstein
situation?
Is he working on what? Is he posting
some kind of gathering of top advisers this
evening to talk about how to respond to
the Epstein situation? I don't know. I could
ask you that question.
I don't know of it, but I think,
I I here's the man right here. I
saw it reported today,
and it's completely fake news. We're not meeting
to talk about the Epstein situation,
and I think the reporter who reported it
needs to get better sources.
Look. The whole thing is a hoax. It's
put out by the Democrats because we've had
the most successful six months in the history
of our country,
and that's just a way of trying to
divert attention
to something that's total bullshit.
K? Gus.
Yeah. Please. I knew Gallup poll said I
don't think that conveys the kind of certainty
he wants it to when you cuss in
the Oval Office or wherever they are. So
what do you think about that?
Yeah.
Again, it's another betrayal of MAGA. I mean,
he he's he's so they all look like
fools and chumps
and controlled opposition.
And,
you know, JD Vance himself,
tweeted was I played it on showed it
on my show, his tweet about the, you
know, let let's here see the Epstein files.
You know? So they were all JD Vance,
Kash Patel,
Don ban Dan Bongino saying, don't let this
story go. Don't do that. And then as
soon as he gets into a position of
power, he's starts lying at the top of
his lungs. Oh, I saw the video. It's
clear. And it's like, really? Because the video
we saw was the opposite of clear. Mhmm.
In fact, it was doctored,
in several different ways,
and you guys are lying. Yeah. And,
so it's not good,
for the Trump administration. The longer they try
to ins
what what he's trying to do is bully
you into not asking questions, the same thing
that the democrats did during COVID. Mhmm. You
know? Oh, how dare you're an idiot if
you talk about ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.
You're an idiot if you question masks or
lockdown. You're an idiot if you don't take
everything doctor Fauci says, even though he x
contradicts himself constantly. You're an idiot. You're a
racist if you think that so, you know,
him the equivalent of him,
using the word bullshit there is the equivalent
of Democrats calling you a racist Yeah. For
questioning where the vy COVID virus came from.
It didn't work for the Democrats.
It's not gonna work for Trump. In fact,
it's gonna be worse for Trump, I think,
because the, you know, the whole brand is
built on,
questioning authority. There that's the whole thing. And,
of course, now they're the authority,
and they're shaming you for questioning them. It's
kind of ironic. And it's bad that it
it you know, from people from Candace Owens
to Tucker when you've lost Candace Owens and
Tucker Carlson
and Marjorie Taylor Greene, which Trump has in
a lot of ways, in a lot of
different things. Now if the election was tomorrow,
would they all tell you to vote for
Trump? Probably.
I agree. But they're they're very vocal.
They're very it's because of the alternative. That's
why. Right. And that's that's exactly what the
establishment wants. They don't want you to have
something you can vote for. They only want
you to have something you can vote against.
That's that's that's well said. I you know,
I it's it's yeah. That's that's exactly the
way to frame that. It's if they get
you so worked up against hating the other.
And by the way, that's the same that's
going on with the genocide carrying out in
the world, you know, the p in which
is their their narrative is failing around that,
but clearly trying to convince people that they're
just evil monster. I I literally saw Megyn
Kelly, not to lurch into this, but on
Piers Morgan, make the argument that I I
at this level, it's insane to me that,
you know, they're showing the pictures of starving
children, and she goes, well, I don't take
them at face value because Palestinians would rather
watch their their children starve
than
help than
what you say, than help people or that
help the that work with Israelis, something insane
like that. You know? And it's just that
kind of thing shows you the the kind
of propaganda we're dealing with. But, you know,
that what we were saying before is, you
know, the overlap to it is very interesting
because it seems as if rightly so, in
my opinion, and we already discussed the point
as we're talking about Zionist infiltration of governments
and and all sorts of things, that
the the focus for the current,
like the MAGA move, and we're just conservatives,
republicans,
is that Israel has influenced, at the very
least, what Trump is doing. And that that's
the overlap to Epstein is why that's not
coming out. It's weird right now. They take
a recess and, like,
congress goes to Israel. This is so it's
very strange. So, I mean, do you think
that's what's driving this, and and what do
you think that will mean if this just
doesn't stop? Will they revolt on him? What
do you think?
Well, I again, I mean, I don't know.
They're not gonna have a chance to vote
for Donald Trump again. Mhmm.
But, you know, JD Vance would be the
heir apparent. And,
I don't
I mean, more so now, though. Like, in
the next six months, a year. You know?
Like They are. I mean, I see a
lot. Like I said, I just you know,
Candace Owens is could go in both barrels.
Tucker Carlson
is, you know, openly mocking
their position on Epstein.
Tucker Carlson gave a speech
at that,
turning points thing where he said, you know,
they say the economy is doing great. I
say the economy is doing horrible
because how is how the way he the
metrics he uses to judge if the economy's
economy is doing well is if his kids
with full time jobs,
can they afford a house? And they can't.
And he said that. So I don't care
what GDP is. I know that my kids
who are working full time can't afford a
house, and that's a failing economy.
So, I mean, it's from from everything from
that to to the and, again, Joe Rogan's
turned on him over immigration.
He's like, that's this isn't what we voted
for. No. He we didn't want him to
go after these people. We want him to
go after the drug cartel and the and
the criminals.
And he's going after students, and he's going
after,
you know, guys hanging out at the Home
Depot.
So,
looking for work. So he's again, it's,
it's falling apart faster than I could have
imagined it would fall apart. Yeah. And I
think that the core of it is is
that they turned into the woke right. So
the Yeah. No matter what anybody tells you,
the woke right are the people who want
to
censor
you and, accuse you of hate crimes for
your hate speech.
That's the woke right, and that all revolves
around Israel.
And so that that's for that's not America
first. That's Israel first. And to the point
where I don't know if you saw just
the other day, the Trump administration
wanted to predicate
disaster relief from FEMA, $2,000,000,000
on, if your if your state
is, sufficiently loyal to Israel. And if it's
not, you don't get your disaster relief. That
they had to they had to walk it
back,
but they only walked it back rhetorically because
they still have the language,
in the policy that says that if you
are being discriminatory
against anyone, you're not gonna get our federal
funds. And all they have to do is
say you're being discriminatory
towards,
you know,
Jews. And and and by that, they really
mean Zionists and Israel. They don't mean Jews.
They mean Zionists and Israel.
So that's the you know, again, the two
people who like to conflate Judaism
with Zionism
are antisemites
and Zionists. That's the irony.
Yeah. That's a good way to put that.
So much contradiction everywhere you look at all
this, but, see, that's what happens when you're
lying about everything. I've said that so many
times over the years as a US government
point, but same thing here. If you're lying
about everything,
at some point, you're gonna have to contradict
a previous lie to to sell somebody on
something new, and it should continue. And that's
what they keep doing. But right there, the
narrative is just one big ball of lies,
and it just day to day just keeps
looking worse. I I your tweet here just
saying America first winning about them saying that.
I don't know if you saw this, though.
I this is what I I was covering
this just the other day, and so it
started where they had this posted. Right? And
your good point, by the way.
Specifically Israeli companies
as opposed to something about, you know we're
talking about an Israeli state, and, you know,
that's the conflation there with something about, you
know, whether it's Jews or whether it's about
racism because that's where Jews live. It's a
weird way to frame that. That's why I
think it got a lot of attention. You're
you're telling us we can't boycott a foreign
country. Right? Now then they they removed it,
as you pointed out. That went away. But
what I found was weird is that night,
they actually added it back
Oh, no. I didn't hear that. Show. And
then the next day deleted the entire page.
I mean, it's just if they're drowning in
all this, and I just seem so desperate
what they're doing, you know? But I I
think it's a good point to understand that
they are very clearly trying to cultivate the
way we see these things and trying to
manipulate us. But when they get seen, clearly,
they're in a vulnerable point to where they
pull back and they run.
You know, I just think it's very interesting
how obvious all of this is.
But
I I I agree. It's it's very obvious.
It's again, if they didn't have such weak
adversaries,
they would be done for. But they do
have you
know, you you know, Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi
and Trump Schumer
and, you know, Kamala Harris is looking like
she's probably gonna run for president again. Gavin
Gavin Newsom.
Well, she's not running for governor.
And if she's not gonna run for governor,
the only thing reason because she was out
here going around to the fire burned out
neighborhoods and stuff, Kamala Harris was. And I'm
like, oh, she's gonna run for governor
because, I guess, Newsom can't.
And,
and
but now it looks like she's not gonna
run for governor, so maybe she's gonna run
for president. But, anyway Yes. Again, the the
the the only thing keeping
right now the Republican Party together is the
is the fact that their adversaries are so
horrible
and, and obviously corrupted because they're obviously corrupted.
I mean, a billion a trillion dollar defense
budget,
all that noise about Doge and none of
that money gets caught cut. None of it.
None of it gets cut. They just fold
it into the state department. They put it
into the Pentagon budget, and they explode the
Pentagon budget, and they explode the deficit.
So all we thought about Doge was that
we gotta get we gotta tighten our belts.
We gotta get rid of this wasteful spending
so we could balance the budget because this
is unsustainable.
$37,000,000,000,000
in debt. And they just do the exact
opposite.
And,
you know, I don't so I people see
that. You know?
And people see it because guys like Elon
Musk made a big deal out of it.
I was really happy that Elon Musk was,
making as much noise and ruckus
about the big beautiful bill as he did
because it woke a lot of people up.
And, so good for that. So, again, they
were just blessed with horrible enemies, but that's
because,
you know, there's people who control Donald Trump.
There's people who control the Democrats, people who
control the Republicans,
and people who control Donald Trump. It's obvious
that Israel, Mossad,
and Netanyahu controls Donald Trump. That those aren't
his ideas.
And
so, and even bigger,
control him. So,
yeah, I I my whole you know, I've
been trying to get people away from the
two party duopoly
since they screwed over Bill, Bernie Sanders, and
Bernie Sanders went along with it. And that's
when I knew, oh, there's no
there's no because Bernie Sanders had so much
power, he could have demanded anything he wanted
from the Democratic party, and he would have
gotten it. And he you know what he
demanded? Absolutely
nothing. He didn't demand anything. He didn't he
didn't demand corporate money out of the primary
process.
He didn't demand to get rid of superdelegates.
He didn't demand not he could've did that
easily.
Mhmm. He didn't do anything.
He didn't demand a a vote on Medicare
for all. He didn't he didn't nothing.
He demanded
absolutely nothing.
And, so that's was like, oh, so he's
not here to actually make change. Bernie Sanders
is here to pretend to make change and
to let you know this is as far
left as you can go in the Democratic
crazy far leftist.
If you actually wanna be a leftist, then
you're crazy because you're not allowed to do
that. And, you know, it's just funny that
Bernie Sanders is now an AOC, you know,
that when when Joe Biden had that more
billionaires
supporting Biden and Kamala than even Trump did.
Think about that. Mhmm. And now they're on
a tour to end the oligarchy. Well, where
were you for those four years? Oh, you
didn't wanna end the oligarchy then? But now
you do no. You're just this is this
is this is just another way to sheep
herd people back into the Democratic party. Yep.
Yep. I agree. And then and get ready
for the, you know and I I have
a little bit of a less positive view
about Elon Musk, but, you know, let let's
get ready for the America America party and
the AI technocracy party. And to your point,
get ready for Kamala to run, and then
have either him or maybe even JD Vance
with the next party. And they're lesser of
evils, and the whole thing starts all over
again. Lesser of it's all lesser of evil,
Yep. And people
I know smart people, in Hollywood who defend
it to the death. You you can't tell
me that the Democrats aren't a little better,
that that people say that. I I
that they say
then they believe it or they convince themselves
that that's true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I
think they'll people like me an accelerist.
You know? And it's just like, no. I'm
just done with it.
Yeah. More apologize for people the faster people
wake up to the fact that you're being
duped by this two party system. Yep. The
better. Nothing will change until people lose hope
in the fucking government.
Yeah, man. Thank you. Hear hear. I've been
saying that for longest time and then specifically
like you're saying about the two party illusion.
That is like the crux of this issue.
Not the only problem, but very clearly the
biggest in keeping us trapped in there. Thanks
for being here today, Jimmy. Anything else you
wanna leave us with? Upcoming shows, things you
wanna shout out before we leave today? I'll
I'll be in, I'll be in Manhattan
coming up next weekend at the Village Underground.
It'll be in Calgary, Edmonton,
and Vancouver, and Rutherford, New Jersey. Go to
jimmydoe.com for a link for tickets. I'll see
you there. Outstanding. Alright, brother. Well, it's good
talking to you again. I'll see you next
time. To you. Thank you, brother. Bye bye.
Have a good one.