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left some lingering mysteries.

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whether he ever worked for

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a American or foreign intelligence agency.

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The former labor secretary who was,

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Miami US attorney,

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Alex Costa. He allegedly said that he did

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work for intelligence agency. So could you resolve

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whether or not he did? And also, could

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you say why there was a minute missing

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from the jailhouse tape on the night of

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the day? Yeah. Sure. If I could Could

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I just interrupt a little while again?

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Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

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This guy's been talked about for years. You're

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asking we have Texas. We have this. We

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have all of the things that

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and are people still talking about this guy,

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this creep?

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That

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is unbelievable.

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Welcome to the last American Vagabond. I'm excited

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to have James Lee back on today to

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discuss what he's seeing going on in the

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world. He's doing a great job of breaking

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down, you know, the the insights and what

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he sees in the different political chaos today.

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He did it with last interview, we discussed

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or we we discussed his really great short,

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mini documentary around the ADL. Really still recommend

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you check this out because it is just

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a, you know, a perfect short caps encapsulation

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of what that entity really is and what

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it's tied to. Today, we're gonna discuss kinda

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what he's seeing around as, obviously, Epstein conversation,

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the Trump administration, Israel infiltration,

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and just whatever else is going on in

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his mind. So, James, it's a pleasure to

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have you back on the show, my friend.

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How are you? I'm doing good, Ryan. Thanks

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for having me. Thanks for having me on.

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Yeah. My pleasure, brother. Today.

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Yeah. As always. As always. Well and and,

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again, that that the that ADL documentary, you

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know, it really clearly, at at a right

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moment for people to see, there's a shifting

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conversation around Israel, Zionism,

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and it's just it's what's interesting about that

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topic, as I'm sure you keep finding out

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and you saw with that investigation,

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is this stuff is very surface level. It's

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not it's not like it's really been hidden

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that well. It's just that it's there and

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people are afraid to talk about it, and

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I think this whole, you know, thing is

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unraveling in front of us. It's a it's

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an interesting and alarming kinda time at the

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same moment. You know? But before we get

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into some of the things that I wanted

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to get into that I think are relevant,

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that I want your take on, work that

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you've done, you know, something I've been asking

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people I have on lately just because there's

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so much swirling around day you know, thirty

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twenty four hours later, our entire perspective can

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change, right, with the way it's going today.

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So right now, what what jumps to your

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mind? What's an investigation you might be involved

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in right now? What's kind of the

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forefront on what you're looking at today?

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I am looking into a lot of things.

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obviously, per your intro, like, Epstein comes to

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mind for a lot of people. Right? It's

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it's now that they're telling us, hey. This

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guy basically didn't even exist. You know? Why

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are we still talking about this guy?

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a lot of people's, including my curiosity about,

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okay. We've uncovered a lot about him. What

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else is out there? Let's dig everything up.

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What what could be related? Let's link some

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dots. Recently, I've been looking into his ties

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to Peter Thiel. And one of the reasons

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why I'm looking into that is

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government and the private sector. He's one of

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the most powerful and well connected people

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he you know, to me, the the stuff

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that I'm looking at is, like, there's a

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lot of parallels, a lot of similarities. I'm

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not saying they're exactly the same. I'm not

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making insinuations that Peter Thiel is is trafficking

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young children or anything like that, but there's

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certainly a lot of similarities in terms of

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their, like, personal

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proclivities

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sex and doing that that kind of thing

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and having fun in that world, but also

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being tied into various intelligence,

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tied into business, high level people,

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and, having connections in high levels of government

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to say, hey. Is this guy potentially

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Epstein two point o? Mhmm. That's a really

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interesting thought. I actually hadn't even considered that.

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past that I don't ever think has been

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necessarily, like, definitively proven, but is there's a

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lot to add to it is the thought

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of whether Charlie Manson might have been a

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representation of, like, an Epstein of his time.

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you know, this little harem he had, you

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know, the connection to the to the Hollywood

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scene and, you know, obvious connections to intelligence.

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Very interesting thought. So to that forward point

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to today, is that another representation? That's a

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really interesting thought. I'm interested to see where

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you're going with that in in the work.

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kind of add to that in regard to

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is it just like before we even answer,

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what's interesting is the the technology,

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eugenics,

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transhumanism,

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technology kind of elements of Teal are very

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present in Epstein, which I'm sure you're aware

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of, but don't get a lot of attention.

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are there any more to that side of

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you know, what what do you think makes

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that case right now? I don't unless you

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don't wanna get into it because you're building

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there. Right? The one is

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the the point that you mentioned, which is

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a lot of people focus a lot on

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trafficking of young girls on the sexual side

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of things, the massages and all those things.

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project that Epstein is tied to with this

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kind of transhumanist thing. I think him and

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Peele were very simpatico in in that vision.

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look it up, there is accounts of people

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not just talking about how they were sexually

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abused during their time on Epstein Island, but

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they were talking about being experimented on. And

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one of the people I don't know if

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you've come across her her testimony. Right?

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Juliet,

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Juliet Bryant, are you familiar with,

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on on I haven't I haven't spoken to

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her, but, yes. Go ahead. Yeah. So she's

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talking about being experimented on in terms of

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Epstein Island, getting all kinds of science stuff,

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waking up in the middle of the night

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in a laboratory,

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and doctors and and people, like, poking and

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prodding her. And you have to understand the

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thing about Peter Thiel is that he is

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out there in terms of, there's a lot

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of reporting done that how he, like, injects

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young children's,

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not children, but 18 blood and and he

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does these, like, $40,000

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operations, procedures every quarter.

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thing that you just pulled up is like,

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hey. There is, like, some massive investments that

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we don't even know what they're for as

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far as, like, teal

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and and Epstein back in I think it

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was around 2014. Right?

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Epstein investing $40,000,000

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in one of these teal funds that we

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what it's for. Is it what kind of

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projects are behind it? What are they investing

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in? So that's kind of the tie. And

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and you have to understand, teal all teal

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also is is connected as in beyond just

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then he came into the picture. So it's

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that, so then there must be something

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there's something going on. I think there's a

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that exists where peels, Peter Thiel talks about

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how how he met,

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Jeffrey Epstein. And it was just like, well,

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he was introduced to me as a really

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and started he's really smart.

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maybe he's good at taxes, but he's also

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a sex trafficker and, plus, he's investing $40,000,000,

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which he neglected to say in that interview

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that Right. Came out later. Peter's a bad

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liar. He's very transparent when you I'm serious.

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like, trying to parse through, like, he even

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just, like, what about Israel? And he's, like,

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shuts down. You know, it's clear that he

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has these things. He he I don't know

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why he puts himself out there like that,

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but my thought is that was clearly a

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moment where he was, you know, aware of

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what was going on. And to your point,

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he was aware then. The timing is clear.

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that have you know, even that I forget

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after this became, like, the everybody knows point.

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this. I forget her name. And everyone's like,

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you know? But they that's kind of the

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sentiment. It's like everyone was afraid to say

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anything. But I think the point is that

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Thiel was not just aware and not saying

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anything, but he was immersed in overlap with

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that. Now that doesn't have to mean, unless

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you're you know, maybe you know more of

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your investigation that he's involved with those things.

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at the very least that you're not concerned

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with those kind of proclivities, and that that

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says a lot to me. Oh, and what

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we're thinking of This is blood. The point

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is this stuff is continuing today. We we

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kinda think we're framing the Epstein issue, and

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Trump is as a thing of the past.

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Right? Oh, look at this creep. Like, we

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don't need to talk about him anymore. It's

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basically done deal. Like, we've eliminated this guy.

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on without Right. You know, a lot of

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scrutiny over, like, hey. Is

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what's going on with these experiments? Are are

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people being trafficked against their will? Not in

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maybe for a sexual reason, but for more

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of, like,

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science experiments. Is that still happening? Because there's

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a lot of records showing that it was

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once happening, and he's investing in all different

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kinds of these companies

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that do all sorts of things

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that you know, there's just not a lot

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of oversight. And, also, he's really powerful. He's

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tied into basically every single major office in

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Trump's cabinet

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and also to all these different tech companies.

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He's got his hand,

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all over it.

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You know, and my worry is, you know,

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The US, I think it gives a lot

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in regard to being immersed with this administration,

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this government. But I think I'm more worried

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about what they do outside

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without like, even less oversight in their Prospera

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Freedom City in Honduras. You know, like, things

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like that where it's like, I don't think

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there's any like, it's a lawless reality as

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far as I'm concerned. And so I worry

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there's a lot more of that going on

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in the world. But you're right. Yeah. Go

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ahead. Go ahead. He's he yeah. He has

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a bunch of these, like, islands that he's

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developing everywhere.

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based on I mean, there's no

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don't really know what's going on there. Are

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there people there? Are there not people there?

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There's just not a lot of public information

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about that unless you're tied in and you

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get a chance to go there. So we

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don't even know if there's humans there. Are

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there people living on these islands?

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Are they for what he says? I mean,

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this kind of, like, utopia kind of thing

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or, like, what the hell is going on

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here? Yeah. It's a worrisome thing. I mean,

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that goes into the like, I'm more worried

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about this kind of technocratic

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transition that we're witnessing. I mean, we I'm

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sure you saw the attachment two zero one

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bringing in literal yeah. I think it was

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OpenAI, Palantir, and Meta, albeit their CTOs became

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part of the military. Like, actual lieutenant colonels.

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I just talked to Brad Miller, the you

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know, the one he resigned in protest, the

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COVID shot from a hundred and first airborne,

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and and just, you know, he was just

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ripping that apart and how alarming it is.

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You know, I think there's a lot of

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that happening. I'm worried about these as you

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know, there's a couple names for them. Trump

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floated the Freedom Cities point, which a lot

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of people pointed out was just 15 cities

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with another name, you know, but but that

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there's that Prospera aspect or even in even

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in El Salvador in a way. Like, the

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way that they're because, you know, he's a

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proud Zionist. He's he's called a technocrat, you

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know, Bukele and what they're overlap with. I

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think there's got a lot of these trial

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balloons. And I think what we're we're we're

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we're seeing is sort of like this slow

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transition into what they want to be this

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kind of technocratic hellscape as I would describe

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it. You know? But that's a whole another

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aspect of this unless you wanna get into

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that. The the eugenics and experimentation. I mean,

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this was going on for such a long

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time, and we know this going back, you

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know, before I mean, even, like, World War

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two, for example. My point is after World

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War two, the US government, like, absorbed all

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of the worst parts of what they claim

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we were trying to fight, whether it was

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doctor Ishii in Japan with their biological experiments

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or the Nazis will I mean, it's just

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it's so this stuff has continued. Now I'm

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of the mind that this stuff is not

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happening. You know, it's it's more about something,

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like, during warfare, for example. Like, in Syria,

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there was many reports of just,

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you know, trafficking, organ sales, like, things going

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on. I think the same thing happens in

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Gaza. So that's where I worry about with

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these things going on under the guise of,

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you know, war and other things that we

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don't see. You know? Any thoughts on that?

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Yeah. I mean, there are literal reports of,

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like, hey. Are they experimenting on people

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in Gaza? Like, there's literal reports of that

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happening right now. And it I mean, I

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don't wanna say it out loud here, but

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there's some stark parallels here of what happened,

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you know, between 1938,

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'39, and and 1945.

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So do we care about that? And I

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think that's where

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you know, for a person like myself, you

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know, I I think I'm sort of known

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for this, like, deep research stuff. But for

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me, it's like I'm coming at from from

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a normie American perspective to say, okay. Where

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you know, my interest in this is, like,

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where are we spending all our resources as

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a nation? Right? You can see

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you're walking around. You're wherever you live, and

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you see things are becoming more and more

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dilapidated. Things just seem to have gotten worse

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in the last decade,

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maybe even longer than that. And you're wondering,

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okay. So what's our government prioritizing? It seems

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to be, oh, we're prioritizing

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war in Israel,

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Ukraine,

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and we're investing

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and getting tied into all these, like, tech

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oligarchs. It seems like we're doing a surveillance

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state. We're creating the conditions

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of, I would say, revolution. So it's, like,

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almost creating a need just to to

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manufacture this consent to say, oh, no. We

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need all of these agents on the ground

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because, look, people are doing bad things everywhere.

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And to me, I'm like, well, they're doing

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bad things because you've kinda pushed a lot

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of people

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to its

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end, and what else are they gonna do?

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And so it's kind of like this perfect

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storm,

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whether it be on purpose or not on

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purpose. Right? That's the conspiracy whether this is

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being done maliciously, but the end result is

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pretty much the same that, hey. We're gonna

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get this surveillance state whether we like it

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or not. And it seems to be that

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all the people in power, the powers that

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be are somewhat aligned in that vision.

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Mhmm. We saw that during COVID as you

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pointed out yourself, you know, kind of the

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lockstep of supposed adversaries, which I do think

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in many ways are adversarial. But when it

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comes to control over our lives, they're all

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happy to take what they can get in

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my opinion. You know? But, yeah, I I

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think that this is clearly going you know,

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sprinting in the direction of whatever you wanna

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call it, whatever you see it to be.

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I think we all notice it right now.

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But the point the way I would frame

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it, whatever you think is happening, that our

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government is doing things at the expense of

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Americans for their benefit, for their agenda. I

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mean, this is the the confounding thing for

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a lot of MAGA right now. And let's

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actually touch on that before we get into

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Epstein because I think Epstein is one very

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clear example of something that seems to be

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fracturing

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what I would argue is the most you

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know, p the p the grouping of people

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that really believe in the core values of

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this country, the constitution, what we want, you

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know, but have been tricked, I think, into

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thinking that's what was happening. You know? But,

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you know, the the you can see this

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awareness developing. And through that, you know before

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we get anything else, what do you think

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about that with Epstein and the MAGA movement

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and, like and for example,

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there's a few different points we've seen, even

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the immigration part where it seems they're kind

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of fracturing. You know? What what do you

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think of that? Do you think that's real?

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Where do you think it's going?

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I think it's real in a lot of

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ways. And from the grassroots level, I think

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that's very real. I think it's you have

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to separate MAGA

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from influencer MAGA versus, like, real MAGA

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people who are not in media. People are

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just living their lives and believe in Donald

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Trump. I think there's a big chasm that's

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developing here. And the reason why I think

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is because over the course of maybe the

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last five, six, seven years, there's been this,

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like, focus in terms of the conservative movement

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on, like, hey. We need to be out

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there at the forefront of protecting

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children.

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And that's kind of their big cultural separator

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from the Democrats who are out there promoting,

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like, LGBTQ

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values and and

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trans rights and all this stuff. And then

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on the other side, it's like, no. No.

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No. We need to get back to, like,

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the family values. We need to protect children.

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Like, get you know, we don't want trans

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you know, whether you like it or not,

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it's like, we don't want trans,

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people. We don't want drag queens reading to

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our kids. So every issue is kinda, like,

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centered around, hey. This is our future here.

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Children are the future. We need to protect

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them whether it be, like, this issue with

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Epstein of of, like, you know, child sex

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trafficking, pedophiles, and this kind of thing, or,

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like, the abortion

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movement of, like, hey. We these are real

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people. These are real humans. Like, protect the

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children. So there are a lot of issues,

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like, tie people together in that sense or

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the the sports thing as well with the

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with the trans sport. We have to protect

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Right. That as well. And this is all

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of a sudden the first time where or

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the the one of the biggest issues out

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there that he's running on to say, oh,

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no. We actually don't care about this. And

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I think that's a huge

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incongruence to to say, how could you be

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the party

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of protecting children if you're literally saying, hey.

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No. Let's forget about this pedophile. Let's Mhmm.

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Not put anybody in jail. Let's not prosecute

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anybody. Like, is is Ghislaine Maxwell

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you know, if she was in charge of

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a huge sex trafficking ring, I suppose she

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was sex trafficking for somebody. Right? It can't

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be just Epstein. Like, I know he was

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quite prolific in his activities, but he you

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know, there's a lot

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there's a lot of other people involved in

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this. And so to say that it doesn't

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matter, I think that's a bridge too far

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for a lot of people, and that's just

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pushing things. You know, I think it's the

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lie is just so bold.

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It's just too much. I've heard a lot

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of people put it that way. It's just

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like

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they know or they know that we know

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they're lying to them. Right.

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And they are still doing it.

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Yeah. Well, since you put it that way

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and we I I do wanna get it.

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I I have the, you know, the point

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you made with with Sager and and Tucker,

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which I agree. You know, it's interesting that

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the everyone knows. Right? It's it's very, very

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interesting and obvious. But since you put it

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that way,

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briefly go ahead to a point I wanna

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get into the Israel overlap. But do why

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do you think

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I mean, this is what I get from

521
00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:06,799
people when you talk to, you know, somebody

522
00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,734
who believes in Trump. Right? They see it.

523
00:17:09,275 --> 00:17:10,954
We're all noticing that. They're very uncomfortable with

524
00:17:10,954 --> 00:17:12,634
this, but many of them still decide, maybe

525
00:17:12,634 --> 00:17:14,394
because Kamal is worse, whatever the logic is,

526
00:17:14,394 --> 00:17:16,075
to stick with this. But the question they

527
00:17:16,075 --> 00:17:17,674
get stuck on is why would they do

528
00:17:17,674 --> 00:17:20,234
this? It's political suicide. So it's almost like

529
00:17:20,234 --> 00:17:21,659
they can't get past that, and so they

530
00:17:21,659 --> 00:17:23,500
don't go any further because they just there

531
00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:24,859
there there must be a reason that I'm

532
00:17:24,859 --> 00:17:26,380
not seeing kind of a thing. But so

533
00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:27,200
in your mindset,

534
00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:29,419
I I agree with the logic that this

535
00:17:29,419 --> 00:17:31,339
is shooting themselves in both feet. You know?

536
00:17:31,339 --> 00:17:33,259
Destroying any kind of credibility you had with

537
00:17:33,259 --> 00:17:35,579
your biggest following, what do you sense from

538
00:17:35,579 --> 00:17:37,605
that? You know, outside influence? Do you think

539
00:17:37,605 --> 00:17:38,965
they just don't believe what they're saying? Like,

540
00:17:38,965 --> 00:17:40,184
what is your read on that?

541
00:17:41,125 --> 00:17:43,045
The so this is pure speculation, but there's

542
00:17:43,205 --> 00:17:45,285
Right. Right. But there's two main theories thrown

543
00:17:45,285 --> 00:17:47,705
out is that, like, Trump is heavily implicated

544
00:17:47,765 --> 00:17:49,065
in this, and he has

545
00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:50,369
personal,

546
00:17:52,109 --> 00:17:54,509
stake where he doesn't want this information to

547
00:17:54,509 --> 00:17:56,750
come out. The other is obviously some kind

548
00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:59,970
of national security issue, foreign influence by CIA,

549
00:18:00,190 --> 00:18:02,750
Mossad, that kind of thing. Mhmm. And the

550
00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:04,049
way I see it, it's like, okay.

551
00:18:04,589 --> 00:18:05,089
Trump,

552
00:18:06,485 --> 00:18:08,245
yes. He has this, like, thing with with

553
00:18:08,245 --> 00:18:11,205
women, but the underage girls, I think that's

554
00:18:11,205 --> 00:18:13,125
just maybe a bridge too far for him

555
00:18:13,125 --> 00:18:14,805
to cross. We'll see, you know, if his

556
00:18:14,805 --> 00:18:17,125
information maybe comes out. That's not what I

557
00:18:17,125 --> 00:18:19,125
believe. I I'm firmly on the line of,

558
00:18:19,125 --> 00:18:21,829
hey. This is possibly something to do with

559
00:18:21,829 --> 00:18:23,589
national security. They don't want this coming up

560
00:18:23,589 --> 00:18:24,869
because it's a big can of worms because

561
00:18:24,869 --> 00:18:26,730
the CIA has already been

562
00:18:27,349 --> 00:18:27,849
implicated.

563
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:30,309
Not that many people know, but implicated in

564
00:18:30,309 --> 00:18:32,630
this kind of, like, pedophilic activity through their

565
00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:34,789
intelligence work. So all of a sudden, now

566
00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:35,450
you have

567
00:18:36,065 --> 00:18:37,825
more and more information coming out. You you

568
00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:38,804
could really undermine

569
00:18:39,105 --> 00:18:40,164
the institution

570
00:18:40,625 --> 00:18:42,484
itself of, like, our whole entire

571
00:18:42,944 --> 00:18:44,164
intelligence apparatus.

572
00:18:44,545 --> 00:18:46,384
So if once you start unraveling this thing,

573
00:18:46,384 --> 00:18:47,345
I don't think there is an end to

574
00:18:47,345 --> 00:18:48,625
it. So they said, hey. We just gotta

575
00:18:48,625 --> 00:18:50,720
put a stop to it right now. And

576
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,059
in terms of them doing it this way,

577
00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:55,539
I just didn't I just think that

578
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,299
sometimes when you're

579
00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,920
in command, like, a person like Trump who

580
00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,759
has such a cult of personality and so

581
00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:03,059
many people worship him,

582
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,075
that that can sometimes get in your head

583
00:19:05,075 --> 00:19:06,195
and you're like, hey. I think I could

584
00:19:06,195 --> 00:19:08,434
just do anything and then go along with

585
00:19:08,434 --> 00:19:09,955
it. Right? That goes back to his infamous

586
00:19:09,955 --> 00:19:11,315
line of, like, hey. I could shoot somebody

587
00:19:11,315 --> 00:19:13,154
in Fifth Avenue and people will still vote

588
00:19:13,154 --> 00:19:13,894
for me.

589
00:19:14,275 --> 00:19:16,115
This is like taking it to the absolute

590
00:19:16,115 --> 00:19:17,475
limit to say, hey. What else can I

591
00:19:17,475 --> 00:19:19,049
can I just boldly lie to their face?

592
00:19:19,049 --> 00:19:20,490
Right? It's that 1984

593
00:19:20,490 --> 00:19:21,309
quote where,

594
00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:23,950
what's that quote where where basically the party

595
00:19:24,410 --> 00:19:26,170
told you to to reject the evidence of

596
00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:27,769
your eyes and ears. It was the most,

597
00:19:27,769 --> 00:19:30,250
you know, final and most essential command, that

598
00:19:30,250 --> 00:19:31,309
kind of thing where

599
00:19:32,134 --> 00:19:33,414
I know that you know that I'm lying

600
00:19:33,414 --> 00:19:34,855
to you. You just gotta go with me

601
00:19:34,855 --> 00:19:36,394
here. And I think that's

602
00:19:36,774 --> 00:19:38,534
that's probably what's going on in in my

603
00:19:38,534 --> 00:19:39,034
eyes.

604
00:19:39,335 --> 00:19:40,454
Yeah. That's that's very

605
00:19:40,855 --> 00:19:42,454
I agree. That makes the most sense. Like,

606
00:19:42,454 --> 00:19:44,054
the seat even the intelligence point. Like, I

607
00:19:44,054 --> 00:19:45,835
could very much wrap my mind around

608
00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:48,579
Trump being convinced that doing this would be

609
00:19:48,579 --> 00:19:50,259
the end of what he believes he's fighting

610
00:19:50,259 --> 00:19:51,859
for. You know? And that that guess that's

611
00:19:51,859 --> 00:19:53,220
in the vein of thought that Trump is

612
00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:54,820
actually fighting for what he believes is best

613
00:19:54,820 --> 00:19:57,059
for this country. I very much questioned that

614
00:19:57,059 --> 00:19:58,500
today. There was one point at which I

615
00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,274
was pretty convinced that he was doing he

616
00:20:00,274 --> 00:20:01,875
was being corralled and cowed, which I do

617
00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:03,315
think is a large part of it. But

618
00:20:03,315 --> 00:20:04,755
I there's some things today that make me

619
00:20:04,755 --> 00:20:06,674
really question whether that there's more to that.

620
00:20:06,674 --> 00:20:08,355
Maybe even just blackmail and threatening, like, you

621
00:20:08,355 --> 00:20:10,514
know, we talk about with RFK. But clearly,

622
00:20:10,514 --> 00:20:11,794
that does make sense that he could be

623
00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:13,794
convinced that this would, you know, bring down

624
00:20:13,794 --> 00:20:15,839
something that he's fighting for. But still, it's

625
00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:18,480
the contradiction to what you just described. He

626
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,919
is guided by his hubris. I think we

627
00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:21,279
all could admit that, and I think very

628
00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:23,359
clearly that doesn't make sense. Like, the thing

629
00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:24,720
there's a lot of examples where I just

630
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,240
go, I don't think he would make himself

631
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,839
look that bad. You know? Like, I unless,

632
00:20:27,839 --> 00:20:29,519
again, there's a larger point to it. But

633
00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:31,275
what I tend to think is that there

634
00:20:31,515 --> 00:20:33,434
or at least largely consider is that it

635
00:20:33,434 --> 00:20:35,295
doesn't add up to me that they would

636
00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:35,934
destroy

637
00:20:36,394 --> 00:20:38,315
every bit of credibility, every bit, you know,

638
00:20:38,315 --> 00:20:40,315
just for this push. So I wonder if

639
00:20:40,315 --> 00:20:41,835
there is some element of this that is

640
00:20:41,835 --> 00:20:44,234
somehow trying to bring down this country, which

641
00:20:44,234 --> 00:20:46,380
is interesting because I see a lot of

642
00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:47,980
the thought process of that coming. Like, even

643
00:20:47,980 --> 00:20:50,700
the Republicans before this point were were quick

644
00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:52,299
quick to make that point in any without

645
00:20:52,299 --> 00:20:54,220
any evidence about China. You know, a thousand

646
00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:55,660
year plan about the you know, or ten

647
00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:57,019
thousand year plan about you know, there and

648
00:20:57,019 --> 00:20:58,619
that's good. We should consider that very much

649
00:20:58,619 --> 00:21:00,315
so. But interesting now that there's never been

650
00:21:00,315 --> 00:21:02,394
more evidence coming from another country that it

651
00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:04,315
seems that most really don't wanna acknowledge that

652
00:21:04,315 --> 00:21:05,434
or get into it or at least on

653
00:21:05,434 --> 00:21:07,035
the, you know, higher up coverage of this.

654
00:21:07,035 --> 00:21:08,394
And so that's where I kinda go with

655
00:21:08,394 --> 00:21:10,174
it is that it seems that there's something

656
00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:13,220
happening here that is implicating a foreign country.

657
00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:14,659
And we know that's the case at least

658
00:21:14,659 --> 00:21:16,339
in part with Mossad. And so then it

659
00:21:16,339 --> 00:21:18,440
comes down to the point of you know,

660
00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:19,940
that you were kinda making there that it's

661
00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:21,940
not the the real point is not about

662
00:21:21,940 --> 00:21:23,779
covering up the sex trafficking. That is a

663
00:21:23,779 --> 00:21:26,315
a an apparatus around the system. That it

664
00:21:26,394 --> 00:21:28,575
it's about highlighting or rather keeping,

665
00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:29,454
secure

666
00:21:29,835 --> 00:21:31,835
the blackmail network, I think, that keeps all

667
00:21:31,835 --> 00:21:33,355
of this in place. Is that do you

668
00:21:33,355 --> 00:21:35,375
think any where do you think about that?

669
00:21:35,595 --> 00:21:37,769
Yeah. I I think that's probably what it's

670
00:21:37,769 --> 00:21:39,049
at. And I think at this point, it's

671
00:21:39,049 --> 00:21:40,410
gone too. I mean, you have people like

672
00:21:40,410 --> 00:21:42,970
Tucker Carlson who are out there openly saying

673
00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:44,670
that, hey. This is the thing for me.

674
00:21:44,809 --> 00:21:45,309
Mhmm.

675
00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:48,730
Some people are saying, hey. This Trump's life

676
00:21:48,730 --> 00:21:50,250
could be in danger, like or or he's

677
00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:52,015
playing some sort of 67

678
00:21:52,015 --> 00:21:53,695
d chess here where he this is the

679
00:21:53,695 --> 00:21:55,555
real way to take down the system.

680
00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:57,775
I don't I think this is clearly like,

681
00:21:57,775 --> 00:21:58,595
there's no

682
00:21:58,894 --> 00:22:00,994
no state deeper than kind of the intelligence

683
00:22:01,055 --> 00:22:02,734
apparatus that we have built here over the

684
00:22:02,734 --> 00:22:04,654
last seventy years, and it's really strong and

685
00:22:04,654 --> 00:22:06,430
it's really powerful. It's really tough to take

686
00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:08,930
down. That's kinda where I'm sitting at. And

687
00:22:09,150 --> 00:22:10,910
and I do think although I do think

688
00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:12,750
that there is going to be a breaking

689
00:22:12,750 --> 00:22:14,430
point when it's just too much for Americans

690
00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:16,589
to accept, and there's only two out. Either

691
00:22:16,589 --> 00:22:18,849
one where we're gonna get transparency

692
00:22:19,230 --> 00:22:21,255
and and we're gonna get accountability, or the

693
00:22:21,255 --> 00:22:22,875
other is just more censorship,

694
00:22:23,494 --> 00:22:24,875
more top down surveillance.

695
00:22:25,414 --> 00:22:27,174
You know? When when I think of the

696
00:22:27,174 --> 00:22:29,015
two directions it could go. Right? If you

697
00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:29,974
look at, let's say,

698
00:22:30,375 --> 00:22:32,375
you know, the alligator Alcatraz. Right? They're saying,

699
00:22:32,375 --> 00:22:34,980
hey. That's for illegal immigrants. That's a processing

700
00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:37,380
center. And I'm like, well, the people there,

701
00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:39,619
I could very much see in the very

702
00:22:39,619 --> 00:22:41,460
near future that it's gonna be people who,

703
00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:42,980
like, criticize Israel that is gonna be sent

704
00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:45,619
over there. And and that's what it's gonna

705
00:22:45,619 --> 00:22:47,539
be for because there's no really no other

706
00:22:47,539 --> 00:22:48,039
way

707
00:22:48,484 --> 00:22:50,644
than if you wanna keep the current world,

708
00:22:50,644 --> 00:22:52,565
you know, the the order in place other

709
00:22:52,565 --> 00:22:55,125
than accountability or censorship. You choose one of

710
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,565
the two, and and let's see what happens.

711
00:22:56,565 --> 00:22:57,465
And and everything

712
00:22:57,845 --> 00:23:00,005
points to the second with all this, like,

713
00:23:00,005 --> 00:23:01,829
increase. You know, if you wanna talk about

714
00:23:01,829 --> 00:23:03,829
ICE, like, I don't know if ICE is

715
00:23:03,829 --> 00:23:06,250
really there to deport people even though that's

716
00:23:06,309 --> 00:23:08,309
that's what they say it's for. You're basically

717
00:23:08,309 --> 00:23:09,210
turning in.

718
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:11,529
And somebody gave me this great perspective.

719
00:23:12,069 --> 00:23:14,549
Greg Stoker, who's a US army ranger, and

720
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:15,910
he kind of opened my my eyes and

721
00:23:15,910 --> 00:23:17,404
he said, hey. You know, at this point

722
00:23:17,404 --> 00:23:19,265
in The United States, we don't necessarily

723
00:23:19,644 --> 00:23:20,785
have that power

724
00:23:21,325 --> 00:23:24,605
projection abroad anymore. Like, it's not 2003 anymore,

725
00:23:24,605 --> 00:23:27,105
and we can't just send everybody everywhere

726
00:23:27,804 --> 00:23:30,044
and take over other countries. So, like, let's

727
00:23:30,044 --> 00:23:33,150
do that here at home, and let's continue

728
00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,569
the military industrial complex, but on a domestic

729
00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:38,609
level. And very much, we're creating the conditions

730
00:23:38,909 --> 00:23:39,809
for that need.

731
00:23:40,509 --> 00:23:42,509
Yeah. There there was a document. I can't

732
00:23:42,589 --> 00:23:44,029
I I would bring this up lately, and

733
00:23:44,029 --> 00:23:45,455
I keep keep forgetting what the I gotta

734
00:23:45,455 --> 00:23:46,335
find this out, but I think it was

735
00:23:46,335 --> 00:23:48,095
something like Battlefield America, but I feel like

736
00:23:48,095 --> 00:23:49,455
it's a show. But there was something like

737
00:23:49,455 --> 00:23:52,035
that that the the intelligence apparatus put out.

738
00:23:52,174 --> 00:23:53,894
And it it got it got circulated, but

739
00:23:53,894 --> 00:23:55,295
I don't think it was meant for average

740
00:23:55,295 --> 00:23:57,215
people to look at. But it simply highlighted,

741
00:23:57,215 --> 00:23:58,840
and it's not the first time that, you

742
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,680
know, projecting in the future that the American

743
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,940
people would sort of be their primary enemy.

744
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,279
You know? And that that's a common thing.

745
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:05,880
I think that's always how the governments view

746
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,480
this. I think the biggest threat to them

747
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,100
is that they lose control of their population.

748
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,000
That's the immediate threat all the time. And

749
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,279
so I agree with him. And I think

750
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,265
that this is, you know, kind of a,

751
00:24:14,265 --> 00:24:15,545
you know I wouldn't even call it a

752
00:24:15,545 --> 00:24:17,225
come to Jesus moment for Americans to kind

753
00:24:17,225 --> 00:24:18,985
of recognize that, like, okay. This is happening.

754
00:24:18,985 --> 00:24:21,305
You know? It's building. It is you know?

755
00:24:21,305 --> 00:24:23,705
Whatever the narrative is, it it's you know,

756
00:24:23,705 --> 00:24:25,945
offense is offense. Whatever you wanna whatever your

757
00:24:25,945 --> 00:24:27,779
your logic for why it's there, it's about

758
00:24:27,779 --> 00:24:29,059
the people coming after you. It's like, what

759
00:24:29,059 --> 00:24:30,659
also keeps you in? You know, it's clearly

760
00:24:30,659 --> 00:24:32,019
what this thing is. And so I'm just

761
00:24:32,019 --> 00:24:33,619
glad that people are finally starting to really

762
00:24:33,619 --> 00:24:34,819
call this out. And I'm glad you bring

763
00:24:34,819 --> 00:24:36,579
up the ICE and immigration point because my

764
00:24:36,579 --> 00:24:39,134
god, Trump I mean, it's six times now.

765
00:24:39,375 --> 00:24:42,255
Six times has floated casually the idea of

766
00:24:42,255 --> 00:24:44,974
Americans being deported or put in prisons. And

767
00:24:44,974 --> 00:24:46,494
and and to be clear, he was talking

768
00:24:46,494 --> 00:24:48,575
about naturalized citizens in many cases, but he

769
00:24:48,575 --> 00:24:50,575
he said and born here in two different

770
00:24:50,575 --> 00:24:52,095
interviews. So I mean, it's Homegrown. I mean,

771
00:24:52,095 --> 00:24:53,934
he said the homegrown comment even though people

772
00:24:53,934 --> 00:24:55,049
say he was joking around.

773
00:24:55,529 --> 00:24:56,029
Whatever.

774
00:24:57,049 --> 00:24:58,110
And then I

775
00:24:58,650 --> 00:24:59,869
I mean, I do believe that

776
00:25:00,650 --> 00:25:03,049
they do they do think that, hey. Anything

777
00:25:03,049 --> 00:25:05,289
that goes against the project that we're currently

778
00:25:05,289 --> 00:25:06,640
building here is a national security threat. So

779
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:06,753
if you're out here criticizing American foreign policy,

780
00:25:06,753 --> 00:25:07,365
no matter if you're an American or

781
00:25:08,884 --> 00:25:11,005
criticizing American foreign policy, no matter if you're

782
00:25:11,005 --> 00:25:12,025
an American or not,

783
00:25:12,804 --> 00:25:15,845
you are basically a roadblock or barrier to

784
00:25:15,845 --> 00:25:17,304
us accomplishing this, and

785
00:25:17,684 --> 00:25:19,950
we don't want that. Right. So whatever we

786
00:25:19,950 --> 00:25:21,309
can do and I for me, it's like,

787
00:25:21,309 --> 00:25:23,809
okay. Is there I mean, for for the

788
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:27,470
Americans, it's like, okay. We we're supposed to

789
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:29,390
to have a justice system that takes care

790
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:30,909
of this. Like, deportation should not be in

791
00:25:30,909 --> 00:25:32,589
the picture. It's like, hey. Did this dude

792
00:25:32,589 --> 00:25:35,045
commit a crime or not? Is is speech

793
00:25:35,045 --> 00:25:36,184
a crime? Is investigating,

794
00:25:36,964 --> 00:25:37,565
you know,

795
00:25:38,005 --> 00:25:40,484
the government a crime? Is that like, what's

796
00:25:40,484 --> 00:25:43,204
the what are they getting people for? And

797
00:25:43,204 --> 00:25:44,265
that's, I think,

798
00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:46,505
that's the kind of the the the big

799
00:25:46,529 --> 00:25:48,930
sort of scary question that we're gonna have

800
00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:51,250
to to face in the upcoming probably year

801
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:52,950
or two. It's like, okay. How how

802
00:25:54,210 --> 00:25:54,710
how

803
00:25:55,809 --> 00:25:57,590
aggressive are they gonna be here?

804
00:25:57,970 --> 00:25:59,490
Right. Well, I think it depends on how

805
00:25:59,490 --> 00:26:00,845
much we push back, you know, just like

806
00:26:00,845 --> 00:26:02,085
you were highlighting. I think it's kind of

807
00:26:02,085 --> 00:26:03,765
a give and take. And if we, as

808
00:26:03,765 --> 00:26:05,684
a populist, don't stand up in in enough

809
00:26:05,684 --> 00:26:07,125
force, and I mean that in the sense

810
00:26:07,125 --> 00:26:09,205
of just being present, not violence, you know,

811
00:26:09,205 --> 00:26:11,365
they they I think the power structure as

812
00:26:11,365 --> 00:26:13,205
always I just I shared a, talk about

813
00:26:13,205 --> 00:26:15,309
this. That in in in the form of

814
00:26:15,309 --> 00:26:17,730
a protest, it's something like 3.5.

815
00:26:17,789 --> 00:26:19,869
You know, there's a number even police have.

816
00:26:19,869 --> 00:26:21,630
Yeah. But government too. That if it become

817
00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:23,470
if it goes beyond a certain number, they

818
00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:24,750
know they just can't deal with it. They

819
00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:26,384
don't have enough jail cells, whatever it is,

820
00:26:26,384 --> 00:26:27,825
so they know they have to stand down.

821
00:26:27,825 --> 00:26:29,105
And that's the same point when it comes

822
00:26:29,105 --> 00:26:30,224
to any of these things, is if they

823
00:26:30,224 --> 00:26:31,904
recognize that not of enough of us are

824
00:26:31,904 --> 00:26:33,664
together and pushing back, that that's when they

825
00:26:33,664 --> 00:26:35,105
could take advantage. And this is just a

826
00:26:35,105 --> 00:26:37,184
classic idea. So, I mean, it's about us

827
00:26:37,184 --> 00:26:38,384
as a collective, as a as a as

828
00:26:38,384 --> 00:26:39,445
a population rather,

829
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,599
seeing these things, calling them out, and stopping,

830
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:43,359
you know, the partisan divide and all. The

831
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,880
the ICE thing is just, you know, it's

832
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,799
look. There are people being deported that should

833
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,400
be deported. They're here illegally. You know? It's

834
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,419
like that's real. But there's endless

835
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:52,960
examples. The majority, in my opinion, of people

836
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,195
that are legally here, whether they have a

837
00:26:55,195 --> 00:26:57,035
green card, Visa, or, you know, or going

838
00:26:57,035 --> 00:26:58,235
through the process of one of them, which

839
00:26:58,235 --> 00:26:59,434
is it's funny that this is what we

840
00:26:59,434 --> 00:27:01,035
tell people they should do. And then as

841
00:27:01,035 --> 00:27:02,795
far as I could tell, recently, the biggest

842
00:27:02,795 --> 00:27:04,475
portion of people that have been removed or

843
00:27:04,475 --> 00:27:06,475
arrested are those that are literally just going

844
00:27:06,475 --> 00:27:07,914
through the process of trying to become a

845
00:27:07,914 --> 00:27:09,730
US citizen. It's it's just it's it kind

846
00:27:09,730 --> 00:27:10,929
of just shows you that it's really just

847
00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:12,450
about the numbers and about presenting some kind

848
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:13,970
of a win. And I wanna make a

849
00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:15,329
point about Stephen Miller when we get past

850
00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:17,009
the Israel part because he seems to be

851
00:27:17,009 --> 00:27:18,849
the central architect for a lot of this,

852
00:27:18,849 --> 00:27:20,769
and he's a very, very obvious Zionist, and

853
00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:22,690
I think he's got some ulterior motives in

854
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:24,164
all of this. But let let's talk about

855
00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:26,404
the Epstein overlap because it really does connect

856
00:27:26,404 --> 00:27:28,565
to a lot of these parts. Right? Even,

857
00:27:28,565 --> 00:27:30,565
like, the immigration aspect, even the aspect of

858
00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:33,204
foreign policy, Israel, the kind of intersection of

859
00:27:33,204 --> 00:27:34,884
a lot of it. So before we get

860
00:27:34,884 --> 00:27:37,369
into the other, you know, kind of evolution

861
00:27:37,369 --> 00:27:38,730
of the narrative, which is funny, let's go

862
00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:40,669
the end point, which is happening right now,

863
00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:41,769
is this, which I love that you should

864
00:27:41,849 --> 00:27:43,470
Epstein Files. Like, it's such a funny

865
00:27:43,849 --> 00:27:46,490
it's not that Obama and the obvious like,

866
00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:48,329
I is there anybody that doesn't know, even

867
00:27:48,329 --> 00:27:50,009
Democrats, that that whole Russia thing it was

868
00:27:50,009 --> 00:27:51,954
a complete fake? Like, everyone was aware of

869
00:27:51,954 --> 00:27:53,315
this. Not that it shouldn't be called out.

870
00:27:53,315 --> 00:27:54,835
We know it should be somebody should go

871
00:27:54,835 --> 00:27:56,275
to jail. We all agree with that. But

872
00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:57,875
for them to jam this in your face

873
00:27:57,875 --> 00:28:00,515
now, it just like you said, it's obvious

874
00:28:00,515 --> 00:28:02,275
what's happening even though that's important. So what

875
00:28:02,275 --> 00:28:03,394
are your what are your take on that

876
00:28:03,394 --> 00:28:04,914
and, you know, Charlie Kirk and the rest

877
00:28:04,914 --> 00:28:07,059
of it? Right. My take on this is

878
00:28:07,059 --> 00:28:08,839
that this would have been a bombshell

879
00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:10,440
finding if

880
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:12,900
Epstein didn't exist or if they handled the

881
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,619
Epstein thing differently, where it's like, okay. Let's

882
00:28:15,619 --> 00:28:17,799
let's go after this because this seems like

883
00:28:17,859 --> 00:28:19,779
not so good. It seems like they're concocting

884
00:28:19,779 --> 00:28:20,279
something,

885
00:28:21,055 --> 00:28:22,894
behind the scenes to implicate Trump in something

886
00:28:22,894 --> 00:28:25,055
that he didn't do. Let's are you guys

887
00:28:25,055 --> 00:28:26,654
gonna is this just like a news cycle

888
00:28:26,654 --> 00:28:28,255
to distract people and saying we're doing something,

889
00:28:28,255 --> 00:28:29,934
or are they gonna go after Obama and

890
00:28:29,934 --> 00:28:32,015
say, hey. We should No. It prosecute. Is

891
00:28:32,015 --> 00:28:33,535
there a crime committed here? That's kind of

892
00:28:33,535 --> 00:28:36,059
where I'm thinking of it. Like, everything now

893
00:28:36,059 --> 00:28:37,599
seems to be a distraction

894
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:39,039
from that central

895
00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:41,579
issue of, like, hey. Are you gonna bring

896
00:28:41,579 --> 00:28:43,419
people to justice that you promised? Like, you

897
00:28:43,419 --> 00:28:45,740
literally were out there saying all kinds of

898
00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:48,299
things starting from, okay. Let's release the files.

899
00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:50,664
Right? JD Vance, let's release the files. And

900
00:28:50,664 --> 00:28:52,585
then Pam Bonnie says we have ten thousand

901
00:28:52,585 --> 00:28:53,565
hours of footage

902
00:28:54,105 --> 00:28:54,605
of

903
00:28:55,225 --> 00:28:57,065
horrible things being done to children. What we

904
00:28:57,065 --> 00:28:59,305
wanna know right? We don't wanna revictimize like

905
00:28:59,305 --> 00:29:01,144
Kash Patel said. We just wanna know, okay,

906
00:29:01,144 --> 00:29:01,644
who

907
00:29:02,025 --> 00:29:03,805
was on those tapes?

908
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:06,049
What are those individuals or who are those

909
00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:06,549
individuals,

910
00:29:06,850 --> 00:29:08,529
and what are we gonna do to them?

911
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:09,350
Are we gonna

912
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:11,570
prosecute them for the crime that they committed?

913
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:13,250
Like, what's going on here? And also now

914
00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:14,150
to say, well,

915
00:29:14,529 --> 00:29:15,750
this is a huge hoax.

916
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:18,710
The Democrats actually made all this stuff up.

917
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:22,595
It's it's too far fetched. It's it's not

918
00:29:22,815 --> 00:29:24,335
the right way to to handle this, and

919
00:29:24,335 --> 00:29:26,194
that's why it's blowing up in their face

920
00:29:26,414 --> 00:29:28,434
even though Charlie Kirk I think that post

921
00:29:28,654 --> 00:29:30,654
in a vacuum is totally fine. Right? That's

922
00:29:30,654 --> 00:29:32,559
a big bombshell. But everybody else in the

923
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:33,840
convo it's not just me. Everybody in the

924
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,039
comments is like, I've seen files. I've seen

925
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,400
files. I've seen files. Like, you don't care

926
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,000
about this right now. It's just give us

927
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,700
those files because that's

928
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,039
that's the big obfuscation that's happening here. Mhmm.

929
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,654
Everything else that Trump is gonna claim as

930
00:29:44,654 --> 00:29:46,095
a win is gonna be seen as a

931
00:29:46,095 --> 00:29:47,934
distraction. You need to handle this in order

932
00:29:47,934 --> 00:29:50,015
to move on to your other priorities. Like,

933
00:29:50,015 --> 00:29:52,575
even, I think, mass deportation, which a lot

934
00:29:52,575 --> 00:29:54,515
of people in the mega base are for,

935
00:29:54,654 --> 00:29:56,414
even that's now gonna be seen as something

936
00:29:56,414 --> 00:29:58,329
that, oh, are you just trying to distract

937
00:29:58,329 --> 00:29:59,849
from the fact that you're not gonna go

938
00:29:59,849 --> 00:30:00,349
after

939
00:30:00,809 --> 00:30:02,410
these these pedophile? Because that that's the whole

940
00:30:02,410 --> 00:30:04,490
narrative that's been building up for five years

941
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:06,569
is that there is this, like, you know,

942
00:30:06,569 --> 00:30:08,669
peto ring that's running the government.

943
00:30:09,055 --> 00:30:10,414
And now all of a sudden, you you

944
00:30:10,414 --> 00:30:12,654
say, no. That actually doesn't matter anymore. We

945
00:30:12,654 --> 00:30:14,494
don't care about it. Exist. You're right. Like

946
00:30:14,575 --> 00:30:16,335
Or does it yeah. It doesn't exist anymore.

947
00:30:16,335 --> 00:30:17,615
I'd be I'm willing to bet, like you

948
00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:19,295
said, if he would've just said, here's why

949
00:30:19,295 --> 00:30:21,134
it doesn't matter in the moment, he probably

950
00:30:21,134 --> 00:30:22,894
would've had enough support to keep that floated.

951
00:30:22,894 --> 00:30:24,670
But the fact that it became didn't even

952
00:30:24,670 --> 00:30:27,230
exist. It's like you know, just that's banking

953
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:29,869
on the majority of people being either wild

954
00:30:29,950 --> 00:30:32,430
blind following sycophants or too dumb to know

955
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:33,869
that that doesn't make sense. But I don't

956
00:30:33,869 --> 00:30:35,110
agree with that. I think the vast majority

957
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:36,590
of his base are good people. They want

958
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:37,950
good things, and they came to that and

959
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:39,390
were like, but wait a minute. Like, I

960
00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:40,884
can't even find a way to make this

961
00:30:40,884 --> 00:30:42,325
make sense. You know? Like, they want to.

962
00:30:42,325 --> 00:30:43,924
And so you're right. It was a step

963
00:30:43,924 --> 00:30:45,365
too far, but that's why I asked, you

964
00:30:45,365 --> 00:30:47,005
know, why? Like Well, that's why that's why

965
00:30:47,005 --> 00:30:48,884
I think it is probably to do with

966
00:30:48,884 --> 00:30:51,545
Israel national security because they could literally say,

967
00:30:52,085 --> 00:30:53,765
hey. We just can't release this right now

968
00:30:53,765 --> 00:30:54,265
because

969
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:57,210
national security is at stake. That would obviously

970
00:30:57,589 --> 00:30:59,509
be a good reason not to, but it

971
00:30:59,509 --> 00:31:01,109
would also mean that we would have to

972
00:31:01,109 --> 00:31:02,730
reevaluate our foreign policy

973
00:31:03,109 --> 00:31:05,930
with one of our closest allies, quote, unquote.

974
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:08,710
And that there's just too many powerful,

975
00:31:09,704 --> 00:31:11,904
forces to push back against that. Right? Because

976
00:31:11,904 --> 00:31:13,704
I think the right way to go about

977
00:31:13,704 --> 00:31:15,384
things going forward is that we just have

978
00:31:15,384 --> 00:31:17,625
to reevaluate our relationship with Israel. We just

979
00:31:17,625 --> 00:31:20,125
have to because there are many other allies

980
00:31:20,265 --> 00:31:21,784
in the region for us. It's not just

981
00:31:21,784 --> 00:31:23,544
Israel. We could ally you know, we are

982
00:31:23,544 --> 00:31:25,710
allies with, like, Saudi Arabia and Qatar and

983
00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:26,690
all these other countries

984
00:31:27,309 --> 00:31:28,670
that we can still get what we need

985
00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:29,869
in the Middle East. Because they're saying, hey.

986
00:31:29,869 --> 00:31:32,349
No. Israel, it it's not just it's it's

987
00:31:32,349 --> 00:31:35,470
not Israel. It's actually us needing to dominate

988
00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:37,150
that region or have influence in that region.

989
00:31:37,150 --> 00:31:38,990
I'm like, there's other countries in that region

990
00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:40,744
that we could be working with.

991
00:31:41,204 --> 00:31:41,704
Even

992
00:31:42,005 --> 00:31:43,444
Iran, we could I mean, we worked with

993
00:31:43,444 --> 00:31:45,444
Iran probably because we, you know, overthrew their

994
00:31:45,444 --> 00:31:47,865
government and installed one that we like. But

995
00:31:48,164 --> 00:31:50,404
there are other countries that we can ally

996
00:31:50,404 --> 00:31:52,505
with that we could still sort of project

997
00:31:53,109 --> 00:31:54,950
our power abroad if that's sort of their

998
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:56,309
their vision to do that kind of thing.

999
00:31:56,309 --> 00:31:58,069
You know, I have my personal disagreements with

1000
00:31:58,069 --> 00:32:01,369
that kind of imperialist idea, but even

1001
00:32:01,829 --> 00:32:03,589
even if that was your end goal, there

1002
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,349
are other countries that we can we can

1003
00:32:05,349 --> 00:32:07,190
go through to make that happen. So I

1004
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:09,335
think that's probably the biggest force is like,

1005
00:32:09,335 --> 00:32:09,994
hey. We

1006
00:32:10,295 --> 00:32:12,634
just don't want any kind

1007
00:32:13,654 --> 00:32:16,695
of opening for this to happen. Like, we

1008
00:32:16,695 --> 00:32:19,414
we can't have this Israel US separation and

1009
00:32:19,414 --> 00:32:21,015
all these Zionist forces that, you know, I'm

1010
00:32:21,015 --> 00:32:23,174
gonna say are in government media all over

1011
00:32:23,174 --> 00:32:25,570
the place. Yep. Right. That's forcing this issue.

1012
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:28,029
Absolutely. And it's not it's funny that's even

1013
00:32:28,029 --> 00:32:29,869
contentious. It's a verifiable fact, and it's not

1014
00:32:29,869 --> 00:32:31,309
the same as saying a Jewish person. It's

1015
00:32:31,309 --> 00:32:33,470
just it's frustrating that that has to constantly

1016
00:32:33,549 --> 00:32:35,150
you know, all the asterisk every time. But

1017
00:32:35,150 --> 00:32:36,509
we know why because there's people that are

1018
00:32:36,509 --> 00:32:39,325
weaponizing this idea on all sides, Christian Zionist,

1019
00:32:39,945 --> 00:32:41,945
and atheist Zionist, which exists. Yeah. And I

1020
00:32:41,945 --> 00:32:44,125
was banned from TikTok last week

1021
00:32:44,664 --> 00:32:46,924
for talking about I mean, for for insinuating,

1022
00:32:48,424 --> 00:32:51,065
that potentially our FBI director could be in

1023
00:32:51,065 --> 00:32:53,200
a in a honeypot situation. And I was

1024
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,600
it was a really nice I I would

1025
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920
have to say that the video itself was

1026
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,420
not

1027
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,779
that controversial. Right? I basically cited

1028
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160
facts and what other people are saying and

1029
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,440
say, hey. Make up your mind. Is he

1030
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,259
being compromised?

1031
00:33:06,464 --> 00:33:07,585
Yeah. It's a good I'll include it in

1032
00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:08,785
the show notes. It's a good video, and

1033
00:33:08,785 --> 00:33:10,545
it's it's a valid question to ask. And

1034
00:33:10,545 --> 00:33:11,904
the fact that they just banned your account,

1035
00:33:11,904 --> 00:33:13,505
you know, it speaks volumes. It really does.

1036
00:33:13,505 --> 00:33:15,345
Yeah. And I I actually just got it

1037
00:33:15,345 --> 00:33:17,525
back yesterday, but it was through,

1038
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,079
you know, connections and people higher up saying,

1039
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,240
hey. This is you guys gotta look at

1040
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,799
this situation. If I didn't have that avenue,

1041
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,740
I would still a 100% be banned.

1042
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:30,880
And and I don't know for sure. They

1043
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,240
didn't give me a reason of why they

1044
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,700
banned me, but that video

1045
00:33:34,454 --> 00:33:35,434
was taken off,

1046
00:33:36,054 --> 00:33:37,914
because I posted that, I remember,

1047
00:33:38,214 --> 00:33:38,954
last Friday.

1048
00:33:39,654 --> 00:33:41,414
And within I was checking. It was like

1049
00:33:41,414 --> 00:33:43,174
I had 50,000 views, and I remember going

1050
00:33:43,174 --> 00:33:44,615
to bed. Or right before I went to

1051
00:33:44,615 --> 00:33:46,535
bed, checking again, I was like, within twenty,

1052
00:33:46,535 --> 00:33:48,700
thirty minutes, I had gotten, you know, from

1053
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:49,980
50 to a 140,000.

1054
00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:51,340
I was like, oh, shit. This has taken

1055
00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:52,559
off. Went to bed

1056
00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:55,259
and woke up. You know, just you you

1057
00:33:55,259 --> 00:33:56,940
open the app up. It just immediately logs

1058
00:33:56,940 --> 00:33:58,400
you out. Boom. It's done.

1059
00:33:59,180 --> 00:34:01,234
In in the past, what I noticed is,

1060
00:34:01,234 --> 00:34:02,514
you know, it's the same thing. If somebody

1061
00:34:02,514 --> 00:34:04,034
out there had a TikTok account with three

1062
00:34:04,034 --> 00:34:06,355
followers, they could say literally whatever they wanted,

1063
00:34:06,355 --> 00:34:07,954
and they likely wouldn't take their account down

1064
00:34:07,954 --> 00:34:09,815
no matter how bad, no matter how offensive.

1065
00:34:09,954 --> 00:34:11,714
But it's because and I this is the

1066
00:34:11,714 --> 00:34:13,074
same thing I noticed. The one the very

1067
00:34:13,074 --> 00:34:14,434
first time that I had a video that

1068
00:34:14,434 --> 00:34:16,114
went over a million views on YouTube, you

1069
00:34:16,114 --> 00:34:17,289
know, know, and also at a point when

1070
00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:19,049
we passed a 100,000 subscribers with the first

1071
00:34:19,049 --> 00:34:20,250
one, you know, you it's like a a

1072
00:34:20,650 --> 00:34:22,489
something switched into place. You know? It's like

1073
00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:24,250
that it's about the momentum. It's about the

1074
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:26,170
reach. They just can't you know, the power

1075
00:34:26,170 --> 00:34:26,670
structures,

1076
00:34:26,969 --> 00:34:28,969
varying power structures that don't want certain things

1077
00:34:28,969 --> 00:34:30,574
out, that's what they'll do. They'll step in

1078
00:34:30,574 --> 00:34:32,414
and shut that down. But you're right that

1079
00:34:32,414 --> 00:34:34,174
the average person doesn't have the access to

1080
00:34:34,174 --> 00:34:36,014
somebody to to petition the top. You know?

1081
00:34:36,014 --> 00:34:37,375
And that's how that's what they bank on

1082
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:38,674
at the end of the day. You know?

1083
00:34:38,815 --> 00:34:40,734
And and why you got it back. I've

1084
00:34:40,734 --> 00:34:42,514
got it. Yeah. And and it's always

1085
00:34:43,269 --> 00:34:44,550
or I don't wanna say it, but it's

1086
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:46,070
almost always to do with these kind of,

1087
00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:48,809
like, Zionist forces. Similarly, when I did reporting

1088
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:49,450
on,

1089
00:34:50,150 --> 00:34:51,130
the Georgia

1090
00:34:51,670 --> 00:34:53,690
law enforcement exchange program where

1091
00:34:54,070 --> 00:34:56,070
Atlanta pops are being sent to Israel for

1092
00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:59,234
training Mhmm. That video was also reported by

1093
00:34:59,234 --> 00:35:01,074
the director. I found out this through through

1094
00:35:01,074 --> 00:35:03,234
a public records request that another journalist did,

1095
00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:04,194
and he just reached out to me and

1096
00:35:04,194 --> 00:35:05,315
said, hey. By the way, I just wanna

1097
00:35:05,315 --> 00:35:07,155
let you know that your video and your

1098
00:35:07,155 --> 00:35:08,614
name came up. And

1099
00:35:08,914 --> 00:35:09,574
the director

1100
00:35:09,954 --> 00:35:11,714
sent your video to the FBI saying that

1101
00:35:11,714 --> 00:35:15,050
I was spreading anti Semitic hate and very

1102
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:17,210
dangerous and and things like that. And all

1103
00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:19,130
I was doing was pointing out, hey. We

1104
00:35:19,130 --> 00:35:20,969
have a bunch of people tied into APAC

1105
00:35:20,969 --> 00:35:22,590
that's funding this COP City,

1106
00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:25,210
and these police officers are going to Israel.

1107
00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:26,969
They're doing all the training there. They're coming

1108
00:35:26,969 --> 00:35:28,030
back. They're they're

1109
00:35:28,545 --> 00:35:29,684
implementing all these,

1110
00:35:31,184 --> 00:35:34,065
oppressive tactics on, you know, student protesters and

1111
00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:36,244
and people's, you know, free Palestinian movement.

1112
00:35:37,105 --> 00:35:38,704
And we should really think about it. It's

1113
00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:40,800
like, why should American police be sent over

1114
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,320
there? Like, shouldn't we be trying our own

1115
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719
police? Like, what's this all about? Like, why

1116
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,640
why is Israel tied into this, and why

1117
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,619
are we spending money, and why are billionaires

1118
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,219
who are tied into APAC

1119
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,625
funding this kind of thing? Like, there it's

1120
00:35:53,625 --> 00:35:55,625
an investment for them. So, like, what's the

1121
00:35:55,625 --> 00:35:57,304
return they're getting? You know, for me Right.

1122
00:35:57,304 --> 00:35:59,565
Right. I kinda posited that it was because

1123
00:36:00,265 --> 00:36:02,364
it's gonna have an impact on the way

1124
00:36:02,425 --> 00:36:04,265
cops feel in terms of their bias and,

1125
00:36:04,265 --> 00:36:06,585
like, hey. This is where our allegiance lies.

1126
00:36:06,585 --> 00:36:08,239
Like, that's why we're gonna act in a

1127
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,559
certain way. They're buying influency. Clearly, we just

1128
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:11,599
saw that. Like, you just I think you

1129
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,280
just said in regard to Colombia and other

1130
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,359
places, we are watching the way that works.

1131
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:17,380
You know? But regardless of the outcome,

1132
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:19,920
it's it's funny. It's it's just frustrating and

1133
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,320
obvious that that's you're reporting on a valid

1134
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,614
thing. The intention, the idea that by saying

1135
00:36:24,614 --> 00:36:26,695
those things, you mean hatred. You know, it's

1136
00:36:26,695 --> 00:36:27,974
just it's just that's first of all, even

1137
00:36:27,974 --> 00:36:29,335
if you actually did, that's not a crime,

1138
00:36:29,335 --> 00:36:30,695
and you're allowed to say and think what

1139
00:36:30,695 --> 00:36:31,815
you want. At least that's what we pretend

1140
00:36:31,815 --> 00:36:33,335
in this country. You know? But, clearly, that's

1141
00:36:33,335 --> 00:36:34,695
not what you were doing. You know? There's

1142
00:36:34,695 --> 00:36:36,630
a valid point to be made about this

1143
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:39,029
this kind of infiltration manipulation. And all that

1144
00:36:39,029 --> 00:36:41,109
aside, how about the fact that that government

1145
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:43,750
is literally committing a genocide in the cartonation

1146
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:45,269
of every law that we know, but it's

1147
00:36:45,269 --> 00:36:46,789
okay that we've they train our police. You

1148
00:36:46,789 --> 00:36:48,469
know? It's like that's it's just there's so

1149
00:36:48,469 --> 00:36:50,630
many obvious reasons, but these are the things

1150
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:52,394
that are falling apart right now. You know?

1151
00:36:52,394 --> 00:36:54,715
These mechanisms. Most people would just be afraid.

1152
00:36:54,715 --> 00:36:56,015
Like, those are scare tactics.

1153
00:36:56,394 --> 00:36:59,114
ADL, Greenblatt, they've been exposed for this, your

1154
00:36:59,114 --> 00:37:01,994
work, and many others. It's about scaring people,

1155
00:37:01,994 --> 00:37:02,494
antisemitism,

1156
00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:05,329
violence, hate speech, and people just respond. They

1157
00:37:05,329 --> 00:37:07,250
don't want well, they know what this they've

1158
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:08,769
seen over the years what can happen if

1159
00:37:08,769 --> 00:37:10,369
you don't bow to that. You lose your

1160
00:37:10,369 --> 00:37:12,210
job, you get fired, you lose your personal

1161
00:37:12,210 --> 00:37:13,730
life, and so people just cow to it.

1162
00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:16,130
But today, things have shifted. You know? Any

1163
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:17,410
any thoughts on I mean, there's a lot

1164
00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:18,855
of I just have a funny because I

1165
00:37:18,855 --> 00:37:20,215
I don't know if you came across this

1166
00:37:20,215 --> 00:37:21,434
article this morning that's

1167
00:37:21,735 --> 00:37:23,114
that was, basically

1168
00:37:23,735 --> 00:37:26,454
calling out a bake sale or something for

1169
00:37:26,454 --> 00:37:29,735
Gaza as ambient antisemitism, which I I mean,

1170
00:37:29,735 --> 00:37:30,474
that's just

1171
00:37:30,934 --> 00:37:33,219
I think that's starting to get into the

1172
00:37:33,219 --> 00:37:35,460
satire range of things. Right? That's starting to

1173
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:36,260
get very oniony.

1174
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,180
There for a long time in my mind.

1175
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:39,539
I know. But I know what you mean.

1176
00:37:39,539 --> 00:37:40,739
It's just it's just to the point to

1177
00:37:40,739 --> 00:37:42,360
where I I would call it desperate.

1178
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:44,019
It it it's an effort to just go,

1179
00:37:44,019 --> 00:37:45,460
you know, what else can we do? We

1180
00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:47,355
don't we they're they're succeeding with their efforts

1181
00:37:47,355 --> 00:37:48,875
of, you know, as I would see it,

1182
00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:50,954
spreading the truth about what's happening, and they

1183
00:37:50,954 --> 00:37:52,635
just don't the the let's just take that

1184
00:37:52,635 --> 00:37:54,795
as a Zionist that's disagreeing with that, just

1185
00:37:54,795 --> 00:37:56,315
what can we do? We can't we can't

1186
00:37:56,474 --> 00:37:58,074
violence. We'll get arrested. We have to call

1187
00:37:58,074 --> 00:38:00,440
it hate speech, antisemitism, and it's not working

1188
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,639
anymore. You know, it just gets more and

1189
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:03,559
more cartoonish. And the obvious point is by

1190
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:06,619
doing that, you're protecting or hiding real hatred,

1191
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,239
real antisemitism. Well, that's what I'm saying. And

1192
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,440
I and I I have a lot of

1193
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,719
Jewish friends because I went to school in

1194
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,244
New York. York, and some of them have

1195
00:38:13,244 --> 00:38:14,684
personally reached out to me and said, hey.

1196
00:38:14,684 --> 00:38:16,545
These these videos that you're putting out, sometimes,

1197
00:38:16,844 --> 00:38:18,284
you know, we feel like it's it's bad

1198
00:38:18,284 --> 00:38:19,804
for the Jewish community or it's crossing the

1199
00:38:19,804 --> 00:38:21,324
line. And I try to explain to them,

1200
00:38:21,324 --> 00:38:23,505
I'm trying to do this on behalf

1201
00:38:24,045 --> 00:38:25,105
of protecting,

1202
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,839
you know, Jewish communities because once you start

1203
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,000
getting tied into this stuff, like, there's no

1204
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
separating, yeah, the the antisemitism because then you're

1205
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,599
you're literally saying, oh, the actions of a

1206
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,539
foreign country is tied into your religion,

1207
00:38:37,864 --> 00:38:39,704
and you don't have any control over what

1208
00:38:39,704 --> 00:38:40,924
that country does, really.

1209
00:38:41,224 --> 00:38:42,984
So you don't wanna be tied into that.

1210
00:38:42,984 --> 00:38:44,824
You need to separate. And then I I

1211
00:38:44,824 --> 00:38:46,605
try to explain to groups like the ADL.

1212
00:38:47,144 --> 00:38:48,984
They only care about Israel. They don't actually

1213
00:38:48,984 --> 00:38:50,605
care about instances of antisemitism

1214
00:38:51,065 --> 00:38:53,324
that are against Jews. Like, the Nazi stuff,

1215
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,079
they don't actually care about those things. They

1216
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,139
will allow that to proliferate just fine. But

1217
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,679
as but, but as soon as anything is

1218
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:03,840
like, oh, this is a pro Palestine thing,

1219
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,174
we gotta shut this down right now. Right.

1220
00:39:06,174 --> 00:39:07,694
Right. It's hypocrisy at the end of the

1221
00:39:07,694 --> 00:39:09,775
day. Again, even if you believe, which in

1222
00:39:09,775 --> 00:39:11,795
most cases, I think even the ADL recently,

1223
00:39:11,855 --> 00:39:13,454
and I know was called out for I

1224
00:39:13,454 --> 00:39:15,554
think it was the 400% increase in antisemitism,

1225
00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:17,855
was shown to be largely Palestinian flags and

1226
00:39:17,855 --> 00:39:19,550
protests, nonviolent. You know? And they just, and

1227
00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:20,989
so that's the idea is they just will

1228
00:39:20,989 --> 00:39:22,670
scream that against anything. But the point is

1229
00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:24,349
even if it wasn't like that, the same

1230
00:39:24,349 --> 00:39:26,750
point applies. We all pretend that when it

1231
00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:29,070
suits our interest that you're allowed to speak

1232
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:30,670
speak and think what you want, but, obviously,

1233
00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:32,670
that's not the case. You can hate almost

1234
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:34,954
anything in this country except Israel. You know?

1235
00:39:34,954 --> 00:39:36,875
And it's just just this is where people

1236
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:38,635
are finally going, okay. I get it. I

1237
00:39:38,635 --> 00:39:40,035
see it. It's not about what they're trying

1238
00:39:40,035 --> 00:39:41,275
to make it out to be. That's why

1239
00:39:41,275 --> 00:39:42,635
I've done a lot of like, a long

1240
00:39:42,635 --> 00:39:44,795
time, but really a lot since October 7.

1241
00:39:44,795 --> 00:39:46,074
You know, Dan Cohen on the show, a

1242
00:39:46,074 --> 00:39:48,875
Jewish person himself, you know, highlighting the lie

1243
00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:51,489
of Zionism is Judaism. It is not the

1244
00:39:51,489 --> 00:39:52,769
same thing. It is a it is a

1245
00:39:52,769 --> 00:39:54,690
bastardization of Judaism. And there are people that

1246
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:56,530
disagree with that. There's also a very, very

1247
00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:59,090
large momentum of orthodox Jewish communities in the

1248
00:39:59,090 --> 00:40:00,769
world that go, I completely agree with you,

1249
00:40:00,769 --> 00:40:02,530
Ryan. So it's very clear that there's something

1250
00:40:02,530 --> 00:40:04,655
shifting. You know? It but it's important that

1251
00:40:04,655 --> 00:40:06,494
Americans at least try to parse through this.

1252
00:40:06,494 --> 00:40:08,175
Don't take our word for it. Look into

1253
00:40:08,175 --> 00:40:09,534
it. Look at James' work. He does a

1254
00:40:09,534 --> 00:40:10,994
good job breaking this stuff down.

1255
00:40:11,775 --> 00:40:13,375
I'm gonna go to a part that I

1256
00:40:13,614 --> 00:40:14,114
from,

1257
00:40:15,054 --> 00:40:16,320
five times August, and then we can, you

1258
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,519
know, go over a couple quick points of

1259
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,840
Epstein. Let's finish on that Israel point. He

1260
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,360
simply wrote this. I just think it's perfect.

1261
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,880
It's just it's just I it laughs out

1262
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,400
loud. I laugh out loud when I read

1263
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,840
this. I don't know how to break this

1264
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,140
down for a lot of you, but

1265
00:40:27,914 --> 00:40:29,195
oh, wait. No. I'm sorry. Oh, this is

1266
00:40:29,195 --> 00:40:30,635
the wrong one. I grabbed the wrong one.

1267
00:40:30,635 --> 00:40:32,394
Well, I'll I'll read this for what I

1268
00:40:32,394 --> 00:40:34,394
was gonna read is just the absurdity. It

1269
00:40:34,394 --> 00:40:35,835
looked like the same one. He broke it

1270
00:40:35,835 --> 00:40:37,755
down in a way that was, the absurdity

1271
00:40:37,755 --> 00:40:39,515
of the way it's gone with Epstein. Basically,

1272
00:40:39,515 --> 00:40:41,114
you know, it starts where it is, you

1273
00:40:41,114 --> 00:40:41,614
know,

1274
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:44,609
the the evolution of it where we're gonna

1275
00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:45,889
go after them, then we won't, then it's

1276
00:40:45,889 --> 00:40:47,329
a hoax. You know, like, the the evolution

1277
00:40:47,329 --> 00:40:49,010
of it where just in in your face,

1278
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:50,449
I'm not doing a good job representing it,

1279
00:40:50,449 --> 00:40:51,809
but it just but you all know the

1280
00:40:51,809 --> 00:40:53,809
story. This is a good point too. This

1281
00:40:53,809 --> 00:40:55,570
is a It is. An interesting point too

1282
00:40:55,570 --> 00:40:57,030
in that powerful people,

1283
00:40:57,734 --> 00:40:58,714
there's no accountability

1284
00:40:59,014 --> 00:41:01,494
ever. And that's kind of the issue that

1285
00:41:01,494 --> 00:41:02,234
they're facing

1286
00:41:02,694 --> 00:41:04,694
is that it seems to be if you're

1287
00:41:04,694 --> 00:41:05,194
in

1288
00:41:05,815 --> 00:41:08,534
elite circles, nothing ever happens to you, and

1289
00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:09,894
it's just getting to be too much. If

1290
00:41:09,894 --> 00:41:11,815
you continue to see and this is from

1291
00:41:11,815 --> 00:41:12,795
a cynical perspective.

1292
00:41:13,099 --> 00:41:14,940
If you continue to see the erosion of

1293
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:15,840
your own community

1294
00:41:16,460 --> 00:41:18,559
and you see them getting away with everything,

1295
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:19,599
it's going to end

1296
00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:22,940
in something bad. Right? Because I would say,

1297
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:25,099
hey. You can probably get away with this

1298
00:41:25,099 --> 00:41:27,579
genocide stuff, and we could probably still be

1299
00:41:27,579 --> 00:41:28,400
arming Israel

1300
00:41:28,704 --> 00:41:29,204
if

1301
00:41:29,744 --> 00:41:31,284
we also had the same commitment

1302
00:41:31,824 --> 00:41:34,625
to building our infrastructure in our cities, high

1303
00:41:34,625 --> 00:41:36,864
speed rail. If we had, you know, power

1304
00:41:36,864 --> 00:41:38,944
lines that are now underground instead of above

1305
00:41:38,944 --> 00:41:40,625
ground that are causing fires all over the

1306
00:41:40,625 --> 00:41:43,105
place. If we had that same investment in

1307
00:41:43,105 --> 00:41:44,085
American cities

1308
00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:46,139
and people were just kinda going about their

1309
00:41:46,139 --> 00:41:48,079
lives and they don't see, like, a continuous

1310
00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:50,380
decay, because there's that's something that's very disconcerting.

1311
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:51,739
When you're walking around your city and you're

1312
00:41:51,739 --> 00:41:53,260
like, wow. This looked better ten years ago.

1313
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:55,179
Now it looks like shit. Yeah. And you're

1314
00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:58,045
seeing all your dollars like, oh, another 7,000,000

1315
00:41:58,045 --> 00:41:59,244
or $7,000,000,000

1316
00:41:59,244 --> 00:42:00,385
to Ukraine, another

1317
00:42:00,684 --> 00:42:02,125
$27,000,000,000

1318
00:42:02,125 --> 00:42:03,965
to Israel. Then you start saying, hey. What

1319
00:42:03,965 --> 00:42:05,565
the hell is going on here? And especially

1320
00:42:05,565 --> 00:42:07,244
with the Israel thing where now it's like,

1321
00:42:07,244 --> 00:42:08,704
oh, I can't even say

1322
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,079
that we don't want to our money to

1323
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:12,280
go to Israel, and there was just that

1324
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,760
vote in the house, right, where, like, basically

1325
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,900
every single politician

1326
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,380
voted to to spend more money over there.

1327
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,159
Even the ones like AOC or Jasmine Crockett

1328
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,000
who are supposedly anti genocide or whatever. They're

1329
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,360
like, oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll continue to

1330
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,625
fund this. Mhmm. Then you start saying, what

1331
00:42:26,625 --> 00:42:28,065
the hell is going on here? And that's

1332
00:42:28,065 --> 00:42:30,144
the same, I think, with Zoran Mamdani in

1333
00:42:30,144 --> 00:42:32,465
New York. Right? That's, I think, what's propelling

1334
00:42:32,465 --> 00:42:35,105
his candidacy is, like, he is out there

1335
00:42:35,105 --> 00:42:36,625
saying, no. No. I'm gonna be a mayor

1336
00:42:36,625 --> 00:42:38,065
of New York. Like, I don't wanna go

1337
00:42:38,065 --> 00:42:39,765
to Israel. Like, why should I go there?

1338
00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:41,630
I have Jewish people that I wanna serve

1339
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:42,990
here. Like, I don't need to go to

1340
00:42:42,990 --> 00:42:44,670
to Israel. And I think people are starting

1341
00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:46,510
to say, okay. That's becoming, I think, a

1342
00:42:46,510 --> 00:42:48,829
litmus test going forward for a lot of

1343
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:50,930
politicians is, like, are you

1344
00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:54,434
somebody who is controlled or not? Right? If

1345
00:42:54,434 --> 00:42:56,114
you're, like, the mayor of some random city

1346
00:42:56,114 --> 00:42:56,775
in Texas

1347
00:42:57,075 --> 00:42:58,594
and you're saying, oh, no. In order to

1348
00:42:58,594 --> 00:42:59,575
get your funds

1349
00:43:00,355 --> 00:43:02,914
released to to to help with, flood relief

1350
00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:03,974
or or or rebuilding,

1351
00:43:04,434 --> 00:43:05,715
you need to to,

1352
00:43:06,195 --> 00:43:07,635
have a commitment to Israel that you won't

1353
00:43:07,635 --> 00:43:08,614
boycott Israel.

1354
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,839
That's starting to not work out anymore. So

1355
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,799
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's becoming obvious. You know?

1356
00:43:14,799 --> 00:43:17,679
It's becoming obvious. Yes. Exactly. Quick thought on

1357
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:18,739
on, Donnie,

1358
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,599
in regard to the legitimacy of it? Like,

1359
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,664
I'm very skeptical of politicians. I just it's

1360
00:43:23,664 --> 00:43:26,085
gonna be a very long road of consistently

1361
00:43:26,224 --> 00:43:27,984
following through with what they claim, which never

1362
00:43:27,984 --> 00:43:30,224
happens. I've never seen that before I start

1363
00:43:30,224 --> 00:43:31,664
trusting any of these people or believing in

1364
00:43:31,664 --> 00:43:32,944
them rather or hoping that they do the

1365
00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:34,704
right thing. But he has been saying a

1366
00:43:34,704 --> 00:43:36,144
lot of things that I think resonate with

1367
00:43:36,144 --> 00:43:37,424
a lot of people. Of course, the right

1368
00:43:37,424 --> 00:43:39,989
is consumed. And I I I'm I'm just

1369
00:43:39,989 --> 00:43:42,329
as critical of a communist, socialist, or democratic

1370
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:44,630
government. I think they're all potentially leading to

1371
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:46,469
centralized power at the top. That's why government

1372
00:43:46,469 --> 00:43:49,269
is bad. But the socialist aspect of it,

1373
00:43:49,269 --> 00:43:50,789
the, you know, the different elements he puts

1374
00:43:50,789 --> 00:43:53,074
forward, but he's very clearly talking like, you

1375
00:43:53,074 --> 00:43:54,994
could call what he's doing America first. Right?

1376
00:43:54,994 --> 00:43:56,594
That's what's interesting. So where do you read

1377
00:43:56,594 --> 00:43:57,795
him right now in regard to that? Do

1378
00:43:57,795 --> 00:43:58,775
you think he's genuine?

1379
00:43:59,714 --> 00:44:01,635
I mean, I think he's a genuine person

1380
00:44:01,635 --> 00:44:03,554
as far as I've seen. As far as,

1381
00:44:03,554 --> 00:44:05,714
like, he he believes in these policies. Right?

1382
00:44:05,714 --> 00:44:07,255
I don't think he would be out there

1383
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,500
promoting these, quote, unquote, socialist

1384
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,480
ideals if he didn't really believe in them

1385
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,579
because there there's a lot of

1386
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:16,519
just feeling towards that term, so I don't

1387
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:18,460
think he would code himself in that way.

1388
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,260
I'm not

1389
00:44:19,905 --> 00:44:21,505
I don't necessarily agree with all of those

1390
00:44:21,505 --> 00:44:23,505
policies that he's proposing, especially some of the

1391
00:44:23,505 --> 00:44:25,585
weird ones around, like, let's say, like, transgender

1392
00:44:25,585 --> 00:44:27,184
rights and and all this stuff. To be

1393
00:44:27,184 --> 00:44:28,545
clear, I wasn't referring to any of that.

1394
00:44:28,545 --> 00:44:29,824
I'm just talking about the point you made

1395
00:44:29,824 --> 00:44:32,385
about the Americans first versus is America. Okay.

1396
00:44:32,385 --> 00:44:33,985
So I think he is genuine. I do

1397
00:44:33,985 --> 00:44:36,619
think that there's gonna be some co opting

1398
00:44:36,619 --> 00:44:38,460
that happens. I don't know the degree of

1399
00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:40,539
the co opting, but I think he he's

1400
00:44:40,539 --> 00:44:42,780
already out there softening the position because he's

1401
00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:44,720
trying to win over Democrats,

1402
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:48,140
endorsements and things like that. I actually think

1403
00:44:48,140 --> 00:44:50,355
he doesn't need to do that because I

1404
00:44:50,355 --> 00:44:51,795
think the Democrats are so weak at this

1405
00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:53,474
point. You like, who cares about a a

1406
00:44:53,474 --> 00:44:55,474
an endorsement from, like, Hakim Jeffries? Like, that's

1407
00:44:55,474 --> 00:44:57,315
not gonna make or break your campaign. It

1408
00:44:57,315 --> 00:44:58,994
really doesn't matter. Or Richard Torres or whoever

1409
00:44:58,994 --> 00:45:00,914
any of these New York guys are. Right.

1410
00:45:00,914 --> 00:45:03,074
That doesn't matter. But he is softening his

1411
00:45:03,074 --> 00:45:04,835
position a little bit there. I I do

1412
00:45:04,835 --> 00:45:07,239
think, eventually, if I if I know the

1413
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,019
Democratic Party like I do,

1414
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,799
they will all kind of go towards this

1415
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,119
the the center. They they will all soften

1416
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:14,780
this position,

1417
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:16,679
if you wanna gain power. And we're seeing

1418
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:18,164
that with AOC. I mean, I was gonna

1419
00:45:18,164 --> 00:45:19,765
I haven't had a chance to to dissect

1420
00:45:19,765 --> 00:45:21,204
too much and then tweet about it, but,

1421
00:45:21,204 --> 00:45:22,985
like, her vote against the

1422
00:45:23,605 --> 00:45:25,364
or her vote to continue to send money

1423
00:45:25,364 --> 00:45:27,224
to Israel is a position to be

1424
00:45:27,684 --> 00:45:29,445
a a a democratic nominee for president the

1425
00:45:29,445 --> 00:45:31,125
next cycle around. There's no other reason to

1426
00:45:31,125 --> 00:45:32,405
do it. You have to get in with

1427
00:45:32,405 --> 00:45:33,839
the the donors, and that's

1428
00:45:34,539 --> 00:45:37,179
exactly what what's gonna probably happen with Zoran

1429
00:45:37,179 --> 00:45:37,679
Mamdani

1430
00:45:37,980 --> 00:45:39,739
as well. I do give him a lot

1431
00:45:39,739 --> 00:45:41,900
of credit for taking down the establishment in

1432
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,239
a primary, and you can now see also

1433
00:45:44,699 --> 00:45:47,119
very obvious how much the Democratic Party,

1434
00:45:48,005 --> 00:45:50,324
respects the Democratic process. Right? Because you have

1435
00:45:50,324 --> 00:45:52,425
now two candidates that are running as independents

1436
00:45:52,565 --> 00:45:54,724
who lost in the Democratic primary, like Andrew

1437
00:45:54,724 --> 00:45:56,265
Cuomo and Eric Adams.

1438
00:45:57,204 --> 00:45:58,644
And if there was the other way around,

1439
00:45:58,644 --> 00:46:00,565
imagine if Mamdani had lost and he's like,

1440
00:46:00,565 --> 00:46:02,085
I'm still going out. I'm I'm I'm doing

1441
00:46:02,085 --> 00:46:04,690
an independent run. That would be all of

1442
00:46:04,690 --> 00:46:06,289
the democratic shells would come out and say,

1443
00:46:06,289 --> 00:46:08,050
oh my god. This guy is so you

1444
00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:10,450
know, he's he's he's fascist, basically. He doesn't

1445
00:46:10,450 --> 00:46:12,369
respect, you know, democracy. And now you have

1446
00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:14,690
two guys, basically, not respecting democracy in the

1447
00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:16,050
in the process of how the party is

1448
00:46:16,050 --> 00:46:17,030
supposed to function.

1449
00:46:17,329 --> 00:46:19,005
And that's where, you know, for me,

1450
00:46:19,804 --> 00:46:21,484
I'm I'm politically homeless. I'm like, I don't

1451
00:46:21,484 --> 00:46:23,164
wanna ping pong back and forth between the

1452
00:46:23,164 --> 00:46:25,404
two parties. Like, is there one party that's

1453
00:46:25,404 --> 00:46:28,224
actually just gonna put the needs of Americans

1454
00:46:28,525 --> 00:46:30,764
first and say, hey. Let's let's reinvest in

1455
00:46:30,764 --> 00:46:33,264
our communities. Let's, like, rebuild our cities. Let's

1456
00:46:33,539 --> 00:46:35,539
let's have, like, a nice environment so, you

1457
00:46:35,539 --> 00:46:37,300
know, we can walk around and and enjoy

1458
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:37,800
ourselves.

1459
00:46:38,099 --> 00:46:40,019
Or how about just whatever you guys decide

1460
00:46:40,019 --> 00:46:41,780
that I should do? Right? Like, the reality

1461
00:46:41,780 --> 00:46:43,059
of what it's supposed to be. Right? Like,

1462
00:46:43,059 --> 00:46:44,579
not what I tell you we're gonna do.

1463
00:46:44,579 --> 00:46:45,940
You know, that's what's so funny about it

1464
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:47,735
is that this people are so disillusioned by

1465
00:46:47,735 --> 00:46:49,335
this process. You know? It's that I'm not

1466
00:46:49,335 --> 00:46:50,614
even of the mind that in most cases,

1467
00:46:50,614 --> 00:46:52,215
our votes even really translate to the outcome.

1468
00:46:52,215 --> 00:46:53,894
Not that it shouldn't, but we've been stolen

1469
00:46:53,894 --> 00:46:55,494
from. But it's just so funny that we

1470
00:46:55,494 --> 00:46:57,255
get to this point to where, you know,

1471
00:46:57,255 --> 00:46:59,789
it's we should just act on principle in

1472
00:46:59,789 --> 00:47:01,550
everything. Right? Whether you're not I we shouldn't

1473
00:47:01,550 --> 00:47:02,989
be voting on party line. It should be

1474
00:47:02,989 --> 00:47:04,510
about whether the person you wanna vote for

1475
00:47:04,510 --> 00:47:06,429
in that moment is most in line with

1476
00:47:06,429 --> 00:47:08,269
what you believe in. My which it sounds

1477
00:47:08,269 --> 00:47:10,449
like you're the same. My perspectives, my principles,

1478
00:47:10,590 --> 00:47:13,070
you know, my political standpoints for any different

1479
00:47:13,070 --> 00:47:15,094
thing, it's all over the map because it

1480
00:47:15,135 --> 00:47:16,974
because when you stand back and don't let

1481
00:47:16,974 --> 00:47:18,414
the party guide you, that, I think, is

1482
00:47:18,414 --> 00:47:19,614
how it's supposed to be. You know? It's

1483
00:47:19,614 --> 00:47:21,054
like you're you're being guided on what you

1484
00:47:21,054 --> 00:47:22,735
believe in, not necessarily what you think the

1485
00:47:22,735 --> 00:47:24,414
other team or your team wants from you.

1486
00:47:24,414 --> 00:47:26,175
You know? But yeah. It's just I'm I

1487
00:47:26,175 --> 00:47:28,440
I think honestly well, actually, one point ask

1488
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,559
Ask you that question. Where do you think

1489
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,319
the country is in regard to that? In

1490
00:47:31,319 --> 00:47:33,400
regard to so let's just say independent left

1491
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,679
and right. If you had to put a

1492
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,760
percentage on it, your opinion. I mean, I

1493
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,480
think 70% of people are in that bucket

1494
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,300
now of independent,

1495
00:47:40,655 --> 00:47:42,014
but it's just what you what do you

1496
00:47:42,014 --> 00:47:44,014
do when it comes time to cast your

1497
00:47:44,014 --> 00:47:45,855
ballot as an independent? Do you still pick

1498
00:47:45,855 --> 00:47:48,114
one of those two parties? Or no one.

1499
00:47:48,255 --> 00:47:50,094
Or yeah. Or do you go with a

1500
00:47:50,094 --> 00:47:52,094
third party? And I think there there hasn't

1501
00:47:52,094 --> 00:47:52,594
been,

1502
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:54,900
I think a strong enough

1503
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:55,860
endorsement

1504
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,280
or win for a third party to to

1505
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,039
give people permission to say, hey. You know,

1506
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:02,480
I think we can go outside of the

1507
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Democrats or the Republicans. I think it's gonna

1508
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,160
take one high profile candidate, not even at

1509
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
the national level, but probably at the local

1510
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,914
or state level just to get it

1511
00:48:10,214 --> 00:48:11,914
done Mhmm. To get people to

1512
00:48:12,454 --> 00:48:14,614
sort of believe, hey. We can go outside

1513
00:48:14,614 --> 00:48:16,214
of the two party system. I heard Thomas

1514
00:48:16,214 --> 00:48:17,734
Massey talk about this a little bit on

1515
00:48:17,734 --> 00:48:19,494
his Theo Von podcast when he's like, the

1516
00:48:19,494 --> 00:48:21,594
two party system is kinda very much embedded

1517
00:48:22,829 --> 00:48:23,730
in our government

1518
00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:26,190
from a infrastructure point when he's talking about

1519
00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:28,030
the backrooms. He's like, there's two backrooms there.

1520
00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:30,510
There's only a democrat backroom and republican backroom.

1521
00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:31,869
Even if you're an independent, you're gonna go

1522
00:48:31,869 --> 00:48:33,550
into one of those two rooms. And so

1523
00:48:33,550 --> 00:48:34,769
there's a lot of institutional,

1524
00:48:36,405 --> 00:48:38,565
you know, infrastructure in place to to keep

1525
00:48:38,565 --> 00:48:39,925
a third party from going in. But I

1526
00:48:39,925 --> 00:48:42,085
think that in itself is not enough because

1527
00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:43,364
I think as long as you get a

1528
00:48:43,364 --> 00:48:44,644
few people in there, I don't care if

1529
00:48:44,644 --> 00:48:46,485
you caucus with the Democrats or the Republicans.

1530
00:48:46,485 --> 00:48:48,105
The whole point is for the third party

1531
00:48:48,565 --> 00:48:50,664
is to extract certain policies

1532
00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:53,219
for your constituents to say, hey. I will

1533
00:48:53,219 --> 00:48:55,539
go along with your bill here even though

1534
00:48:55,539 --> 00:48:56,660
I don't fully agree with it, but if

1535
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:58,500
you gotta give us something. So without that

1536
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:00,579
third party interjection and that that's what kinda

1537
00:49:00,579 --> 00:49:02,820
happens in Canada with the, for people who

1538
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:05,640
understand that, Canadian politics with the block Quebecois

1539
00:49:05,699 --> 00:49:06,199
sometimes

1540
00:49:06,855 --> 00:49:08,695
is that it's like a Quebec based party.

1541
00:49:08,695 --> 00:49:10,614
So they're able to extract, and you almost

1542
00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:12,534
always need them to form the government. And

1543
00:49:12,534 --> 00:49:13,034
so

1544
00:49:13,815 --> 00:49:16,235
they're able to extract certain things

1545
00:49:16,614 --> 00:49:18,295
from the major party to say, hey. We

1546
00:49:18,295 --> 00:49:20,375
want, like, extra funding for Quebec. We want,

1547
00:49:20,375 --> 00:49:22,170
like, language. We want, you know, whatever the

1548
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:23,869
things that they need for their Quebec,

1549
00:49:24,329 --> 00:49:25,949
you know, sort of identity

1550
00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:29,210
in their in their province to say, we

1551
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:31,050
want these things. We'll give you whatever those

1552
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:32,489
things are. So I think that's kind of

1553
00:49:32,489 --> 00:49:34,409
what we need to to prove happens. And

1554
00:49:34,409 --> 00:49:36,664
then I think the Democrats, you know, with

1555
00:49:36,664 --> 00:49:38,264
the AOC and the squad, that's what they

1556
00:49:38,264 --> 00:49:39,224
thought they were gonna be able to do

1557
00:49:39,224 --> 00:49:41,144
from within the party. It's shown that they're

1558
00:49:41,144 --> 00:49:42,585
not gonna do that because they just wanna

1559
00:49:42,585 --> 00:49:43,085
rise

1560
00:49:43,704 --> 00:49:46,184
within the Democratic Party. They don't actually care

1561
00:49:46,184 --> 00:49:47,324
about the the constituents

1562
00:49:47,625 --> 00:49:48,364
as much.

1563
00:49:48,824 --> 00:49:50,550
Mhmm. So we'll have to see if if

1564
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:52,890
something like that translate. My hope is that

1565
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:54,710
at some point, it will, but I might

1566
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:56,650
be too early on that call right now.

1567
00:49:56,949 --> 00:49:58,469
Yeah. I mean, I'm at a point I

1568
00:49:58,469 --> 00:50:00,150
I I I share your hope for that,

1569
00:50:00,150 --> 00:50:01,989
and I would like to see something positive

1570
00:50:01,989 --> 00:50:03,875
come of this. I just think we're, you

1571
00:50:03,875 --> 00:50:04,375
know

1572
00:50:04,755 --> 00:50:05,954
honestly, I think we're at the point of,

1573
00:50:05,954 --> 00:50:07,795
like, a dying empire stage. Like, we are

1574
00:50:07,795 --> 00:50:09,394
collapsing inside right now. And I think the

1575
00:50:09,394 --> 00:50:12,034
problem is that we whatever we thought that

1576
00:50:12,034 --> 00:50:13,394
could have been, if there was ever a

1577
00:50:13,394 --> 00:50:15,074
time where the party system we have is

1578
00:50:15,074 --> 00:50:16,409
ever you know, I we can see, like

1579
00:50:16,409 --> 00:50:18,650
you said, in Canada, UK, there's just more

1580
00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:19,929
of the same, but it's the same kind

1581
00:50:19,929 --> 00:50:21,530
of false binary or whatever you would call

1582
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:23,050
it. You know, it's not it's an illusion.

1583
00:50:23,050 --> 00:50:24,250
At least that's what some people I would

1584
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:25,929
talk to feel the same way. But it's

1585
00:50:25,929 --> 00:50:27,690
like I'm at the point now where I

1586
00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:29,289
think we need to recognize that we might

1587
00:50:29,289 --> 00:50:30,510
not even be influencing

1588
00:50:30,889 --> 00:50:33,005
that that system. And at least I mean,

1589
00:50:33,005 --> 00:50:34,204
that's what I was trying to say last

1590
00:50:34,204 --> 00:50:36,285
time when we some nihilism going on here,

1591
00:50:36,285 --> 00:50:38,445
but I would say to that point, you

1592
00:50:38,445 --> 00:50:39,985
know, we've gone through other,

1593
00:50:40,525 --> 00:50:42,605
you know, tumultuous times like the civil war.

1594
00:50:42,605 --> 00:50:44,285
We literally kinda have the country rip it

1595
00:50:44,285 --> 00:50:46,045
apart, and we are able to recover from

1596
00:50:46,045 --> 00:50:47,184
that. So I I would say

1597
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:49,750
it's always good to, like, kind of hold

1598
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:51,909
out not just hope, but also put things

1599
00:50:51,909 --> 00:50:53,510
in place where, you know, for me, it's

1600
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:55,210
like, hey. I believe in

1601
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:57,510
information. I want people to be educated. I

1602
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:58,809
think that is gonna create

1603
00:50:59,285 --> 00:51:01,204
a positive change, whatever that might be for

1604
00:51:01,204 --> 00:51:03,285
you that, you know, personally where you wanna

1605
00:51:03,285 --> 00:51:05,864
put your efforts. But I think there's always

1606
00:51:07,364 --> 00:51:09,364
hope in in effort. It's like, hey. If

1607
00:51:09,364 --> 00:51:11,765
I put in the effort Yep. Maybe something

1608
00:51:11,765 --> 00:51:13,359
will come of it. Because we've been shown

1609
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:14,639
in the past, like, hey. There's there have

1610
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:15,920
been other times in the country look like

1611
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,159
it was really gonna rip apart, but we've

1612
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:19,679
shown the resilience to come together. And I

1613
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:22,320
think, hey. There is potentially something that that

1614
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,320
could come together to, let's say, get these

1615
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,400
Epstein files released. Like, there's something that could

1616
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,454
happen to say, hey. We're gonna bring some

1617
00:51:28,454 --> 00:51:30,135
people to justice. Maybe it's not all of

1618
00:51:30,135 --> 00:51:31,414
them, but maybe, you know, give us Bill

1619
00:51:31,414 --> 00:51:33,494
Gates. Give us a couple people, and we're

1620
00:51:33,494 --> 00:51:36,295
gonna prosecute them, and we're gonna restore faith

1621
00:51:36,295 --> 00:51:38,714
in the American government. That's what is necessary.

1622
00:51:38,775 --> 00:51:40,150
Right? Okay. But see, here's my here's my

1623
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:41,590
thought. I agree with all like, so just

1624
00:51:41,590 --> 00:51:43,750
to re to clarify my my point is

1625
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:45,349
I I agree. It's exactly what I'm saying.

1626
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:47,590
But from the people's perspective, not like, I

1627
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:50,070
look. I share a very I I'm I'm

1628
00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:51,909
I'm not a statist. I don't believe government

1629
00:51:51,909 --> 00:51:53,914
has to exist. But I understand we live

1630
00:51:53,914 --> 00:51:55,114
in a world where that is the current

1631
00:51:55,114 --> 00:51:56,635
reality. And if we're forced to live within

1632
00:51:56,635 --> 00:51:58,635
that, then, for example, like, the constitution, I

1633
00:51:58,635 --> 00:51:59,855
think, is is

1634
00:52:00,155 --> 00:52:00,735
is important.

1635
00:52:01,355 --> 00:52:02,795
But my point is that the government the

1636
00:52:03,034 --> 00:52:05,534
right. The current government structure, as it stands,

1637
00:52:05,710 --> 00:52:07,789
I don't think is currently salvageable. I could

1638
00:52:07,789 --> 00:52:09,390
be wrong. Right? But I think that the

1639
00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:11,309
problem is if we're trying to fix a

1640
00:52:11,309 --> 00:52:14,110
broken system or rather, like, you know, something

1641
00:52:14,110 --> 00:52:16,429
that is broken beyond repair, and all we're

1642
00:52:16,429 --> 00:52:18,750
seeing is people continue to funnel into it,

1643
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:20,750
possibly from a foreign country that's keeping it

1644
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:22,954
that way, to maintain this ability. You know,

1645
00:52:22,954 --> 00:52:23,835
look at it this way. It's the same

1646
00:52:23,835 --> 00:52:26,074
way the US government keeps states failed so

1647
00:52:26,074 --> 00:52:27,994
they can take resources and, you know, we

1648
00:52:27,994 --> 00:52:29,275
may very well be in that kind of

1649
00:52:29,275 --> 00:52:31,835
position. And it's worth just considering that. That's

1650
00:52:31,835 --> 00:52:33,659
all I'm saying is that, you know, maybe

1651
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,819
voting through a broken system that doesn't care

1652
00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:37,739
about your vote is not the only solution

1653
00:52:37,739 --> 00:52:39,980
out of this. But Oh, no. I'm I'm

1654
00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:42,139
with you a 100% on that point. Do

1655
00:52:42,139 --> 00:52:43,339
do things outside

1656
00:52:43,739 --> 00:52:45,500
more good for the country can come from,

1657
00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:47,199
like, outside of politics

1658
00:52:47,914 --> 00:52:50,394
than inside politics. Right? There's there's things I'm

1659
00:52:50,394 --> 00:52:53,114
working on the background right now that, you

1660
00:52:53,114 --> 00:52:55,195
know, in in in its infancy, but I

1661
00:52:55,195 --> 00:52:56,474
will share when I'm ready to share. But,

1662
00:52:56,474 --> 00:52:57,994
like, there's things that we're we're trying to

1663
00:52:57,994 --> 00:52:58,894
do as a community,

1664
00:52:59,835 --> 00:53:01,835
as as people with some influence, not the,

1665
00:53:01,835 --> 00:53:03,400
you know, the largest platform. But there's things

1666
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,079
that we're doing to, like, build in. Hey.

1667
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,320
How do we restore, like, Main Street in

1668
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,039
America? How do we restore these community values?

1669
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:11,640
And there's things and all of the things

1670
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,880
that we're talking about within the people that

1671
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,625
I'm working with outside of government.

1672
00:53:15,925 --> 00:53:17,844
We're not gonna go it's it's the answer

1673
00:53:17,844 --> 00:53:19,444
is not to vote harder or to, like,

1674
00:53:19,444 --> 00:53:21,444
get elected or anything like that. It's to

1675
00:53:21,444 --> 00:53:23,385
build in the proper incentive structure

1676
00:53:23,925 --> 00:53:27,224
and and infrastructure in place to make people

1677
00:53:27,684 --> 00:53:29,304
act in a certain way that's,

1678
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:31,760
in my opinion, good for

1679
00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:34,460
good for America versus, like, right now, what

1680
00:53:34,460 --> 00:53:36,059
I see is the the country is basically

1681
00:53:36,059 --> 00:53:38,300
getting strip mined where we're selling off parts

1682
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:39,119
here and there,

1683
00:53:39,579 --> 00:53:40,940
just to to make it to the next

1684
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:42,960
quarter where we're gonna sell off more things

1685
00:53:43,019 --> 00:53:44,619
and and with this the same with the

1686
00:53:44,619 --> 00:53:46,375
debt. I think in government, I would like

1687
00:53:46,375 --> 00:53:47,275
to see I think

1688
00:53:47,894 --> 00:53:49,815
one or two things can actually shift people's,

1689
00:53:51,494 --> 00:53:53,654
opinion of it. Like, for example, if Donald

1690
00:53:53,654 --> 00:53:56,375
Trump were to be able to, let's say,

1691
00:53:56,375 --> 00:53:58,454
reduce the deficit, if they pass if they

1692
00:53:58,454 --> 00:54:00,875
would have had passed a budget that was,

1693
00:54:01,739 --> 00:54:02,480
a surplus,

1694
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:04,140
I think that would have gone a long

1695
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:06,539
way in terms of giving him the leeway

1696
00:54:06,539 --> 00:54:08,539
to maybe get away with this Epstein stuff

1697
00:54:08,539 --> 00:54:09,360
to say, hey.

1698
00:54:09,980 --> 00:54:11,820
I got this done for you. I'm restoring

1699
00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:13,420
America. Like, this is we're on the right

1700
00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:15,135
road here. I can't give you everything. Like,

1701
00:54:15,135 --> 00:54:16,414
this is this is bad, but I I

1702
00:54:16,414 --> 00:54:18,015
can't give you everything. People would give him

1703
00:54:18,015 --> 00:54:20,015
so much more leeway. But right now, it's

1704
00:54:20,015 --> 00:54:22,094
like every single thing that he's promised, basically,

1705
00:54:22,094 --> 00:54:23,795
he's failing on in a lot of ways.

1706
00:54:24,414 --> 00:54:26,255
And you just can't sustain that over a

1707
00:54:26,255 --> 00:54:28,170
period of time. Because then now nobody believes

1708
00:54:28,170 --> 00:54:29,769
what you're saying. Like, this whole Pam Bond,

1709
00:54:29,769 --> 00:54:32,089
you're gonna release the general whatever the the

1710
00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:34,010
the what what is it called? The federal

1711
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:36,089
grand juries thing for Epstein's. Like, who cares

1712
00:54:36,089 --> 00:54:37,449
about it? Because there's no information in that.

1713
00:54:37,449 --> 00:54:39,530
That's obviously a ploy. You know, that's gonna

1714
00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:41,545
be the binder two point o. Right? All

1715
00:54:41,545 --> 00:54:43,485
the information in there, we probably already know.

1716
00:54:43,545 --> 00:54:46,025
It's funny is is, Paulina Luna was calling

1717
00:54:46,025 --> 00:54:48,025
it phase three, and I'm like, three? Where's

1718
00:54:48,025 --> 00:54:49,704
the second piece? Phase two, which is kinda

1719
00:54:49,704 --> 00:54:52,264
funny. But let me rapidly go through these

1720
00:54:52,264 --> 00:54:53,760
really quickly, and we'll end with, we'll end

1721
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,519
with the Israel part because I I for

1722
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:56,960
the podcast, I'd mentioned these. I wanna make

1723
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,719
sure they saw this. So the first one

1724
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,079
was this was what I thought I was

1725
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,760
looking at first. Was just it's just funny

1726
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,519
to read. It's five times August breaking this

1727
00:55:03,519 --> 00:55:05,380
down. He says, so so so I follow.

1728
00:55:05,614 --> 00:55:07,135
Trump knew Epstein but kicked him out of

1729
00:55:07,135 --> 00:55:09,054
his club for his behavior. But he knew

1730
00:55:09,135 --> 00:55:10,494
but he never went to the island, but

1731
00:55:10,494 --> 00:55:12,255
he understands that very bad things went on

1732
00:55:12,255 --> 00:55:14,255
there. And in 02/2019, he said we need

1733
00:55:14,255 --> 00:55:15,775
to find out because Bill Clinton went there.

1734
00:55:15,775 --> 00:55:17,454
Right? Because there's bad things that happened there

1735
00:55:17,454 --> 00:55:18,655
because it will tell us a lot about

1736
00:55:18,655 --> 00:55:20,400
the situation. But anyone who wants to, today,

1737
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,239
keep the story going is a bad person

1738
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,239
and a weakling because the story is actually

1739
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,400
made up, boring, and there's nothing there at

1740
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,639
all even though Bondi said they received truckloads

1741
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:30,799
of files and there were over 250 victims

1742
00:55:30,799 --> 00:55:33,119
that but that's because Obama, Biden, Clinton, and

1743
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:34,639
Comey made it all up now. And it's

1744
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:36,695
actually a complete hoax, but now they're going

1745
00:55:36,695 --> 00:55:38,454
to unseal the grand jury testimony even though

1746
00:55:38,454 --> 00:55:39,974
it's apparently all made up. It's just like

1747
00:55:40,054 --> 00:55:42,215
it is I you couldn't have written a

1748
00:55:42,215 --> 00:55:43,735
better a worse script. Like, it this is

1749
00:55:43,735 --> 00:55:45,175
where I'm like when I really think it

1750
00:55:45,175 --> 00:55:47,015
through, I'm like, how would I mean, isn't

1751
00:55:47,094 --> 00:55:48,695
don't they have teams that go through these

1752
00:55:48,695 --> 00:55:51,030
things? Like, it just felt ridiculous to me.

1753
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:52,550
And then here is the one that, that

1754
00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:53,909
you mentioned, and I I I do think

1755
00:55:53,909 --> 00:55:55,590
it's important. And this is about going back

1756
00:55:55,590 --> 00:55:57,510
to the point about Obama, and I agree

1757
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:58,550
with this is this is what I was

1758
00:55:58,550 --> 00:56:00,230
saying in regard to, you know, them doing

1759
00:56:00,230 --> 00:56:02,070
this. It's important that we hit, like and

1760
00:56:02,070 --> 00:56:04,090
I agree. What they're showing you is obvious,

1761
00:56:04,295 --> 00:56:05,894
but I don't think we were that I

1762
00:56:05,894 --> 00:56:07,575
think most people were aware that Obama or

1763
00:56:07,575 --> 00:56:09,755
rather just the US government was conduct conducting

1764
00:56:09,815 --> 00:56:11,974
this psyop. But Obama, most importantly, and he

1765
00:56:11,974 --> 00:56:13,094
should be in go to jail for this,

1766
00:56:13,094 --> 00:56:14,055
but I think a lot of them should

1767
00:56:14,055 --> 00:56:15,655
for a lot of reasons. The point is

1768
00:56:15,655 --> 00:56:17,494
that now, as you pointed out, it seems

1769
00:56:17,494 --> 00:56:19,835
very odd, but I think it's interesting that

1770
00:56:20,260 --> 00:56:21,619
this is where I think and it seems

1771
00:56:21,619 --> 00:56:23,300
like we agree on this. I don't think

1772
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:25,059
anything's gonna happen. I don't think Obama will

1773
00:56:25,059 --> 00:56:26,500
go to jail like we never see anybody

1774
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:27,940
go to jail, and that's the real point.

1775
00:56:27,940 --> 00:56:29,140
He goes, I don't know how to break

1776
00:56:29,140 --> 00:56:30,660
this to a lot of you. Barack Obama

1777
00:56:30,660 --> 00:56:32,500
isn't going to be arrested. Same reason Epstein

1778
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:34,514
won't ever get arrested. Same reason Comey won't

1779
00:56:34,514 --> 00:56:36,514
be arrested, same reason Fauci won't be arrested,

1780
00:56:36,514 --> 00:56:38,514
same reason Zuckerberg won't be arrested, same reason

1781
00:56:38,514 --> 00:56:40,675
Bill Gates won't be arrested. Nobody you want

1782
00:56:40,675 --> 00:56:41,954
to go to jail will go to jail.

1783
00:56:41,954 --> 00:56:44,034
You've been conditioned to perpetually allow very bad

1784
00:56:44,034 --> 00:56:45,394
people to get away with their crimes in

1785
00:56:45,394 --> 00:56:47,699
exchange for Internet memes and fun sound bites.

1786
00:56:47,780 --> 00:56:49,380
Now you could argue that's a little black

1787
00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:51,300
pill. You know? Like, it'll never happen. I

1788
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:52,659
argue that we can like, we're kind of

1789
00:56:52,659 --> 00:56:54,339
both saying that we're fighting for to get

1790
00:56:54,339 --> 00:56:55,800
to a place to where that can happen.

1791
00:56:55,859 --> 00:56:57,619
But as we stand now, I agree with

1792
00:56:57,619 --> 00:56:58,980
them. I feel like that's where we've been

1793
00:56:58,980 --> 00:56:59,880
kind of set.

1794
00:57:00,179 --> 00:57:02,914
This is something, Loomer put out, Cash Patel,

1795
00:57:03,095 --> 00:57:05,215
Bongino, and and Bondi with their memo, the

1796
00:57:05,215 --> 00:57:07,715
lack of transparency from office regarding Epstein files.

1797
00:57:07,775 --> 00:57:09,535
Source tells them, you know, bottom line breaking

1798
00:57:09,535 --> 00:57:11,535
over the the Yeah. So that that to

1799
00:57:11,535 --> 00:57:12,735
me, that is like

1800
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:17,079
they've already played that card too many times,

1801
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:18,599
and it's not been true where Trump is,

1802
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:20,519
like, acting like he's mad at Israel and

1803
00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:21,960
this and that. And it's like, oh, or

1804
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,480
or Iran and then oh, it's like, oh,

1805
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,179
it's it was actually a whole ploy

1806
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:26,380
to

1807
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,500
to be,

1808
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,744
to to to misdirect. So I'm like, oh,

1809
00:57:29,744 --> 00:57:31,664
is this a misdirection thing as well? Are

1810
00:57:31,664 --> 00:57:33,264
they actually mad, or are they actually pissed

1811
00:57:33,264 --> 00:57:34,625
off? Because it seemed like all of them

1812
00:57:34,625 --> 00:57:36,484
had signed off on it. You know?

1813
00:57:36,944 --> 00:57:38,224
Yeah. I mean, I it does it feels

1814
00:57:38,224 --> 00:57:39,505
very much like theater to me, but I

1815
00:57:39,505 --> 00:57:41,744
guess we'll find out. And, you know, Bondi

1816
00:57:41,904 --> 00:57:43,744
the the firing of Comey's daughter had kind

1817
00:57:43,744 --> 00:57:45,210
of in the same direction fell.

1818
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:47,449
And what's weird about the Russia thing too

1819
00:57:47,449 --> 00:57:50,570
is that Trump, before this bombshell came out,

1820
00:57:50,570 --> 00:57:52,250
the the Gabbard files, I guess, it's being

1821
00:57:52,250 --> 00:57:55,050
called, is it it he's been floating this.

1822
00:57:55,050 --> 00:57:57,289
Right? The the reason Epstein was a hoax

1823
00:57:57,289 --> 00:57:59,114
is because Russia Russia, they faked Russia. So

1824
00:57:59,195 --> 00:58:00,635
So it kinda felt like they were priming

1825
00:58:00,635 --> 00:58:01,994
you for that. You know? It felt very

1826
00:58:01,994 --> 00:58:02,494
contrived.

1827
00:58:03,195 --> 00:58:05,034
And the same thing you said about Bondi,

1828
00:58:05,034 --> 00:58:06,635
says she's ready to move to tomorrow to

1829
00:58:06,635 --> 00:58:08,474
unseal the grand jury. And anybody seen this

1830
00:58:08,474 --> 00:58:09,695
rerun before? It

1831
00:58:10,235 --> 00:58:11,755
it feels like we've seen this before. You

1832
00:58:11,755 --> 00:58:13,920
know? You're And then what I wanna make

1833
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,840
a quick point about,

1834
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,940
because, the the Comey,

1835
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,380
the prosecutor,

1836
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,440
I mean, she was also she, like, called

1837
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,820
totally bundled the ditty

1838
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,360
Yep. Trial as well. And that's kind of

1839
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,599
a parallel here where they're getting him on

1840
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:28,905
that, you know, I don't wanna say small

1841
00:58:28,905 --> 00:58:30,345
stuff. I mean, he's they're getting him on

1842
00:58:30,345 --> 00:58:32,105
the sort of the prostitution, but they're not

1843
00:58:32,105 --> 00:58:33,625
getting him on the reco charges because it's

1844
00:58:33,625 --> 00:58:35,704
like, oh, if if he's racketeering, then there

1845
00:58:35,704 --> 00:58:37,545
must be people that he's racketeering with, and

1846
00:58:37,545 --> 00:58:39,144
we don't wanna get into that. Right? That's

1847
00:58:39,144 --> 00:58:40,525
the whole another thing. Yeah.

1848
00:58:40,905 --> 00:58:43,119
Just like that meeting. Right? Exactly. So it's

1849
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:44,480
like, no. No. No. He was just doing

1850
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,820
this. It was a very isolated incident. Him,

1851
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,960
he's doing his his his his freak offs,

1852
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,579
and that that's all that happened.

1853
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,539
And and it's very much in the same,

1854
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:56,159
you know, very very much parallel to what

1855
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:58,214
happened with Epstein. It's like just a narrow

1856
00:58:58,275 --> 00:58:58,775
investigation.

1857
00:58:59,234 --> 00:59:01,554
There's no other bad players. It's just him

1858
00:59:01,554 --> 00:59:03,714
being a bad guy. This one's just Diddy

1859
00:59:03,714 --> 00:59:05,954
being a bad guy, and nobody else was

1860
00:59:05,954 --> 00:59:06,855
involved in it.

1861
00:59:07,234 --> 00:59:08,755
And and it's the it's the interesting point

1862
00:59:08,755 --> 00:59:10,355
of Trump coming out, which does feel kind

1863
00:59:10,355 --> 00:59:12,275
of like it was a clumsy reactionary statement

1864
00:59:12,275 --> 00:59:13,679
that it was a hoax. But that, you

1865
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:15,440
know, now, at least as it appears in

1866
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,859
the surface, you got Ghislaine MacMillan's lawyers going,

1867
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,519
well, okay. Well, if there's a hoax, then

1868
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:21,039
that means there was no trafficking, which then

1869
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:22,079
why is she in prison? You know, it's

1870
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:23,359
like that doesn't make and so now her

1871
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:24,800
lawyers at least seem to be going, well,

1872
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,954
we wanna, you know, appeal, and they're pushing

1873
00:59:26,954 --> 00:59:28,235
back on it. Now that could be more

1874
00:59:28,235 --> 00:59:29,295
theater than we realized,

1875
00:59:29,755 --> 00:59:31,835
but maybe it is just incompetence and clumsiness,

1876
00:59:31,835 --> 00:59:33,355
you know, that the you're you open the

1877
00:59:33,355 --> 00:59:34,795
door for that to come out. I expect

1878
00:59:34,795 --> 00:59:36,635
some kind of a backroom deal, like usual,

1879
00:59:36,635 --> 00:59:38,255
that might let that not happen.

1880
00:59:38,555 --> 00:59:39,449
This is the clip we referenced

1881
00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:42,170
Segar and and Tucker, and the point being

1882
00:59:42,170 --> 00:59:44,170
that we all know they're lying, and this

1883
00:59:44,170 --> 00:59:45,449
was a signal to the bad people that

1884
00:59:45,449 --> 00:59:47,289
will protect you, which I agree with. I'll

1885
00:59:47,289 --> 00:59:49,130
just go pass this for time. And the

1886
00:59:49,210 --> 00:59:50,969
just the interesting point of Segar saying, here's

1887
00:59:50,969 --> 00:59:52,650
a list of Israeli prime ministers all linked

1888
00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:54,409
to Epstein all the way up to Netanyahu.

1889
00:59:54,409 --> 00:59:56,244
It's you know, it's there's an important overlap

1890
00:59:56,244 --> 00:59:57,965
to all of this. But let let's talk

1891
00:59:57,965 --> 00:59:59,485
about and I'll just just briefly, since we're

1892
00:59:59,485 --> 01:00:00,925
already about an hour, let's let's go over

1893
01:00:00,925 --> 01:00:02,845
this in regard to Israel. Here's your video,

1894
01:00:02,845 --> 01:00:04,605
which I recommend you all watch of of

1895
01:00:04,605 --> 01:00:06,925
the point we referenced earlier of whether Cash

1896
01:00:06,925 --> 01:00:08,460
Patel is dating a Mossad agent,

1897
01:00:08,859 --> 01:00:10,719
that you put out a a great investigation

1898
01:00:10,780 --> 01:00:12,699
around is Israel spying on the world through

1899
01:00:12,699 --> 01:00:14,859
VPNs. We touched on something recently about that.

1900
01:00:14,859 --> 01:00:16,639
It's it's alarming to see all these interconnections

1901
01:00:17,019 --> 01:00:19,339
or the carbine aspect, you know, that that,

1902
01:00:19,339 --> 01:00:20,460
you know, or or let me actually just

1903
01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:21,980
play this clip, and then we can just

1904
01:00:21,980 --> 01:00:23,484
finish on talking about all of this. I

1905
01:00:23,484 --> 01:00:25,405
put this out. Stephen Miller, everyone, White House

1906
01:00:25,405 --> 01:00:27,405
deputy chief of staff, and proud Zionist. I

1907
01:00:27,405 --> 01:00:28,445
don't know if you saw this, but you

1908
01:00:28,445 --> 01:00:29,505
might find this interesting.

1909
01:00:29,885 --> 01:00:31,505
Issue of the Iraqi civilians.

1910
01:00:33,405 --> 01:00:34,844
I think that as many of them should

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01:00:34,844 --> 01:00:37,264
survive as possible because the goal

1912
01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:39,789
of any military conflict

1913
01:00:40,489 --> 01:00:42,090
is to kill as few people as possible.

1914
01:00:42,090 --> 01:00:44,030
But after Saddam Hussein and his henchmen,

1915
01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:46,170
I think the ideal solution would be to

1916
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:47,230
cut off their fingers.

1917
01:00:48,250 --> 01:00:50,010
I don't think it's necessary to kill them

1918
01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:53,070
entirely. We're not a barbaric people. We respect

1919
01:00:53,130 --> 01:00:55,804
life. Therefore, torture is the way to go

1920
01:00:55,804 --> 01:00:58,204
because torture people can live. Torture is a

1921
01:00:58,204 --> 01:01:00,144
celebration of life and human dignity.

1922
01:01:02,125 --> 01:01:02,864
We need

1923
01:01:03,644 --> 01:01:05,565
to remember that as we enter these very

1924
01:01:05,565 --> 01:01:07,829
dark and dangerous times in the next century.

1925
01:01:08,070 --> 01:01:09,670
And I only hope that many of my

1926
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:11,110
peers and people who will be leaving this

1927
01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:13,769
country will appreciate the value and respect

1928
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:16,090
that torture shows towards other cultures.

1929
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:20,264
So he's drunk when he's saying this. Right?

1930
01:01:21,144 --> 01:01:22,105
I I I don't I mean, I don't

1931
01:01:22,105 --> 01:01:23,545
know. It's it's 02/2003,

1932
01:01:23,545 --> 01:01:25,144
but the point is that it could be

1933
01:01:25,144 --> 01:01:26,585
joking. Like, that's kind of the scent the

1934
01:01:26,585 --> 01:01:27,824
see the feeling you get. No. I mean

1935
01:01:28,025 --> 01:01:29,484
yeah. Go ahead. What are your thoughts?

1936
01:01:30,025 --> 01:01:31,625
No. I I mean, my first reaction is,

1937
01:01:31,625 --> 01:01:32,984
like, oh, he's just having a little fun

1938
01:01:32,984 --> 01:01:34,025
in the back of the bus with with

1939
01:01:34,025 --> 01:01:35,869
his his friends, and it seemed like maybe

1940
01:01:35,869 --> 01:01:37,349
they're coming back from something. They probably had

1941
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:38,750
a few drinks, and he's just doing a

1942
01:01:38,750 --> 01:01:39,250
caricature

1943
01:01:39,710 --> 01:01:40,450
kinda situation.

1944
01:01:40,989 --> 01:01:42,349
But there's a lot of truth in these

1945
01:01:42,349 --> 01:01:44,349
kinds of moments because I I have these

1946
01:01:44,349 --> 01:01:44,849
moments

1947
01:01:45,309 --> 01:01:48,305
myself, but with other different issues. But if

1948
01:01:48,305 --> 01:01:49,505
you were to capture that, they're like, oh,

1949
01:01:49,505 --> 01:01:51,664
wow. This guy is is insane. But I

1950
01:01:51,664 --> 01:01:52,485
think there's

1951
01:01:52,785 --> 01:01:53,025
a

1952
01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:55,265
he he just believes in those kinds of

1953
01:01:55,265 --> 01:01:57,045
things. It's like there's there's

1954
01:01:57,425 --> 01:01:59,184
so many truths that come out in these

1955
01:01:59,184 --> 01:01:59,925
kind of moments.

1956
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,840
It will if if if if that was

1957
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,320
the if he had a a life of

1958
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,000
of peace and happiness, you that wouldn't mean

1959
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,680
anything. Right? But he could look at his

1960
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,960
track record. He could look at what he's

1961
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,900
doing. Like we said, the he's

1962
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,780
the chief architect of the ongoing,

1963
01:02:13,255 --> 01:02:14,934
you know, kind of, like, building police state

1964
01:02:14,934 --> 01:02:16,855
of this country. You know? It's clear to

1965
01:02:16,855 --> 01:02:18,775
me that there's more there. He's a very

1966
01:02:18,775 --> 01:02:21,335
proud Zionist. He's actively, in many ways, I've

1967
01:02:21,335 --> 01:02:21,815
shown

1968
01:02:22,215 --> 01:02:23,894
I think I could point blank say acting

1969
01:02:23,894 --> 01:02:25,734
for Israel's interest at the expense of Americans.

1970
01:02:25,734 --> 01:02:26,855
You know? And so when you see these

1971
01:02:26,855 --> 01:02:28,500
kind of things, not not that those two

1972
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:30,579
things necessarily have to be connected, but it

1973
01:02:30,579 --> 01:02:32,420
just kinda shows you a a a building

1974
01:02:32,420 --> 01:02:34,739
problem of kind of rampant lawlessness, this might

1975
01:02:34,739 --> 01:02:36,579
makes right kind of idea that people like

1976
01:02:36,579 --> 01:02:38,340
that have gravitated to the highest levels of

1977
01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:39,699
power. You know? And so other than the

1978
01:02:39,699 --> 01:02:41,300
Miller point, I just think he is a

1979
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:42,900
a very big problem for this country in

1980
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:44,554
a lot of ways. You know, all of

1981
01:02:44,554 --> 01:02:47,054
that together, you know, the VPN infiltration, Israel,

1982
01:02:47,114 --> 01:02:49,835
Zionism, Mossad, the, you know, the the is

1983
01:02:49,835 --> 01:02:52,394
this country being infiltrated by a foreign power?

1984
01:02:52,394 --> 01:02:53,835
Like, let's just kinda talk about that for

1985
01:02:53,835 --> 01:02:55,275
the last five minutes about, you know I

1986
01:02:55,275 --> 01:02:56,394
mean, because you've done a lot of great

1987
01:02:56,394 --> 01:02:57,594
work on that, that it seems pretty clear

1988
01:02:57,594 --> 01:02:59,699
that you think that there's more than people

1989
01:02:59,699 --> 01:03:01,180
wanna acknowledge. So I just want your thoughts

1990
01:03:01,180 --> 01:03:02,820
on where that from last we spoke to

1991
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:03,719
what you see today.

1992
01:03:04,659 --> 01:03:06,280
Yeah. Absolutely. It just seems like

1993
01:03:06,579 --> 01:03:07,400
over the course

1994
01:03:07,699 --> 01:03:09,460
of history, there have been more and more

1995
01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:12,164
of these types of projects that Zionists have

1996
01:03:12,164 --> 01:03:15,125
used to try to say America is one

1997
01:03:15,125 --> 01:03:16,825
with Israel. Like, that's the biggest

1998
01:03:17,684 --> 01:03:19,305
thing that they're trying to accomplish

1999
01:03:20,164 --> 01:03:21,765
because the fact of the matter is I

2000
01:03:21,765 --> 01:03:24,280
don't think Israel could survive without America's support.

2001
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,440
I mean, you could see that through government,

2002
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,039
through the, like, the United Nations and how

2003
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:29,960
many times that United States has used their

2004
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,559
veto power just on behalf of Israel. I

2005
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:33,480
think it's more than, you know, half of

2006
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,180
the the vetoes of The US

2007
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,585
has been on behalf of Israel. And all

2008
01:03:37,585 --> 01:03:39,344
these other things that if you're tied into,

2009
01:03:39,344 --> 01:03:42,065
let's say, the media or through technology companies.

2010
01:03:42,065 --> 01:03:44,144
Right? There's so many of these projects that

2011
01:03:44,144 --> 01:03:44,805
are interrelated,

2012
01:03:45,265 --> 01:03:45,925
and that's

2013
01:03:46,465 --> 01:03:48,065
there is a purpose to all this. It's

2014
01:03:48,065 --> 01:03:49,844
to basically make it so you can't

2015
01:03:50,529 --> 01:03:51,029
separate

2016
01:03:51,409 --> 01:03:53,889
from an economic perspective. And then you add

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01:03:53,889 --> 01:03:55,829
on top of that this cultural element

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01:03:56,130 --> 01:03:57,029
to it where

2019
01:03:57,650 --> 01:03:59,009
all of a sudden, if you start to

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01:03:59,009 --> 01:03:59,509
just

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01:03:59,809 --> 01:04:01,889
say something to let's say, hey. We should

2022
01:04:01,889 --> 01:04:03,509
just maybe reevaluate

2023
01:04:03,809 --> 01:04:04,789
our foreign policy.

2024
01:04:05,170 --> 01:04:05,670
That's

2025
01:04:06,065 --> 01:04:07,204
now a form of antisemitism

2026
01:04:07,585 --> 01:04:08,965
to say, well, now you hate Jews,

2027
01:04:09,345 --> 01:04:11,425
and and and you want the second coming

2028
01:04:11,425 --> 01:04:13,105
of the holocaust. Even though while they're, you

2029
01:04:13,105 --> 01:04:14,545
know, at the same time Israel you could

2030
01:04:14,545 --> 01:04:16,385
argue, you know, some people say genocide. Other

2031
01:04:16,385 --> 01:04:17,505
people are saying, hey. This is kind of

2032
01:04:17,505 --> 01:04:19,425
a holocaust situation that's happening. This is very

2033
01:04:19,425 --> 01:04:21,880
similar parallels that are happening. So I think

2034
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,199
that's the project that they've embarked on over

2035
01:04:24,199 --> 01:04:26,679
the last forty, fifty years, and it's worked

2036
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:28,219
really well. But now

2037
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,140
as the material conditions

2038
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:33,179
of actual Americans, like I said, are decreasing

2039
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:35,019
and getting worse,

2040
01:04:35,925 --> 01:04:38,405
Can you hold this together? Is this still

2041
01:04:38,405 --> 01:04:39,864
tenable? Right? Because it's

2042
01:04:40,805 --> 01:04:42,644
why because they haven't given us, like, why

2043
01:04:42,644 --> 01:04:44,885
should we invest so much in Israel? Why

2044
01:04:44,885 --> 01:04:47,204
are they enjoying the spoils of, let's say,

2045
01:04:47,204 --> 01:04:48,505
free health care and

2046
01:04:48,805 --> 01:04:49,545
free colleges

2047
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:51,700
and all the stuff that Americans don't have

2048
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:52,519
access to,

2049
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:56,420
why what's in it for us? Right? That's

2050
01:04:56,739 --> 01:04:58,820
Yep. For all the America First people out

2051
01:04:58,820 --> 01:05:00,420
there listening, that's the big question. It's like,

2052
01:05:00,420 --> 01:05:02,099
what are we getting out of this relationship?

2053
01:05:02,099 --> 01:05:03,800
Right? It seems like sort of an abusive

2054
01:05:03,860 --> 01:05:04,360
relationship

2055
01:05:04,734 --> 01:05:06,414
where we're just doing whatever they want us

2056
01:05:06,414 --> 01:05:08,994
to do, and we're getting nothing in return.

2057
01:05:09,534 --> 01:05:11,375
I think I I don't think it's I

2058
01:05:11,375 --> 01:05:13,795
think long term, I don't think it's tenable

2059
01:05:14,255 --> 01:05:16,675
without some sort of, like, extreme censorship

2060
01:05:17,614 --> 01:05:18,195
in place.

2061
01:05:18,530 --> 01:05:20,130
Yeah. Which is what we're seeing, you know,

2062
01:05:20,130 --> 01:05:21,489
in a lot of ways. And I'm like,

2063
01:05:21,489 --> 01:05:23,170
the the I mean, it's just, like, the

2064
01:05:23,170 --> 01:05:24,929
joke somebody made, Steve for May and Wake

2065
01:05:24,929 --> 01:05:26,609
Up, you know, the snowflakes and the broflakes.

2066
01:05:26,609 --> 01:05:28,449
It's just like the right version of the

2067
01:05:28,449 --> 01:05:29,809
same game, but, you know, it was slightly

2068
01:05:29,809 --> 01:05:31,809
different a but, I mean, even antisemitism was

2069
01:05:31,809 --> 01:05:32,929
a part of the woke side too. You

2070
01:05:32,929 --> 01:05:35,005
know, it's just about using these about identity

2071
01:05:35,005 --> 01:05:35,505
politics,

2072
01:05:35,885 --> 01:05:38,125
censorship based on speech, hate speech, and, you

2073
01:05:38,125 --> 01:05:39,804
know, or not and may you know, pronouns

2074
01:05:39,804 --> 01:05:40,625
versus antisemitism.

2075
01:05:41,005 --> 01:05:43,005
To me, it's the same thing. Even, like,

2076
01:05:43,005 --> 01:05:44,144
the build back better,

2077
01:05:44,445 --> 01:05:45,184
great reset,

2078
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:47,349
big beautiful bill, you know, it's like you

2079
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:49,269
just see so many different parallels in the

2080
01:05:49,269 --> 01:05:51,110
same direction of all these things. You know?

2081
01:05:51,110 --> 01:05:52,789
It it I I think that what we're

2082
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:54,710
kind of, like, grappling with as Americans is

2083
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:56,710
that a lot of what we've been taught,

2084
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:58,230
what we understand, it it it may be

2085
01:05:58,230 --> 01:06:00,230
at one point being true is not true

2086
01:06:00,230 --> 01:06:02,284
today. You know? Like, the the ideas we

2087
01:06:02,284 --> 01:06:03,644
have, but the the whole point is that

2088
01:06:03,644 --> 01:06:05,085
I think at least I will speak for

2089
01:06:05,085 --> 01:06:07,244
myself that I'm fighting for is to get

2090
01:06:07,244 --> 01:06:08,605
back to that point. There's I I got

2091
01:06:08,605 --> 01:06:10,045
the same sentiment from you, you know, to

2092
01:06:10,045 --> 01:06:11,724
fight back to what we believe we should

2093
01:06:11,724 --> 01:06:13,505
be. And that's that's, like, the most quintessentially

2094
01:06:13,644 --> 01:06:15,579
American thing that we can discuss. And that

2095
01:06:15,579 --> 01:06:17,019
you like you said, though, you talk about

2096
01:06:17,019 --> 01:06:18,460
these things, and in many ways, you get

2097
01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:21,099
called racist or anti Semitic or hateful or

2098
01:06:21,099 --> 01:06:22,859
an apologist for something out there that the

2099
01:06:22,859 --> 01:06:24,619
government's fighting. You know, it's it's it's it's

2100
01:06:24,699 --> 01:06:26,380
Or Chinese spy. I get the Chinese spy

2101
01:06:26,380 --> 01:06:28,695
all the time as well. Yeah. Right. I'm

2102
01:06:28,715 --> 01:06:30,015
I'm the agent of the CCP.

2103
01:06:31,755 --> 01:06:33,914
You know, I'm trying to infiltrate America. Because

2104
01:06:33,914 --> 01:06:35,994
whenever I talk about Israeli influence, they throw

2105
01:06:35,994 --> 01:06:38,394
back, well, you're you're a a Chinese spy,

2106
01:06:38,394 --> 01:06:39,614
so you're actually

2107
01:06:39,914 --> 01:06:41,934
here on behalf of another foreign nation.

2108
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:43,859
Well, I mean, the point is always for

2109
01:06:43,859 --> 01:06:45,300
anything. And as I'm sure you would agree,

2110
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:46,819
like, people accuse me with the the most

2111
01:06:46,819 --> 01:06:49,139
ridiculous things. I'm like, sure. Question that. Yes.

2112
01:06:49,139 --> 01:06:50,739
No. No. I and that's how I responded.

2113
01:06:50,739 --> 01:06:52,179
It's like, I might be a spy. You

2114
01:06:52,179 --> 01:06:54,019
should look into it. Right. Right. But the

2115
01:06:54,019 --> 01:06:55,619
point being is like, okay. But now present

2116
01:06:55,619 --> 01:06:57,625
your evidence. Feel free to here's your report.

2117
01:06:57,625 --> 01:06:58,904
Go for it. You know? And the point

2118
01:06:58,904 --> 01:07:00,824
is it's all insinuation. Well, this and that.

2119
01:07:00,824 --> 01:07:02,824
You know? Nothing that's actual even evidence, let

2120
01:07:02,824 --> 01:07:04,505
alone proof. But that's the thing is a

2121
01:07:04,505 --> 01:07:05,545
lot of what goes on today in the

2122
01:07:05,545 --> 01:07:08,924
mainstream alternative media is just insinuation, you know,

2123
01:07:08,984 --> 01:07:11,489
part team sport politics. And I honestly think

2124
01:07:11,489 --> 01:07:14,210
that the American people are getting tired. Tired

2125
01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:15,489
of all of it, you know, which I

2126
01:07:15,489 --> 01:07:16,809
think is kinda where we are right now.

2127
01:07:16,809 --> 01:07:18,710
I know. And that and that's that's worrisome

2128
01:07:18,849 --> 01:07:19,590
because, like,

2129
01:07:20,210 --> 01:07:21,030
can you sustain

2130
01:07:22,050 --> 01:07:24,130
a a cohesive society if more and more

2131
01:07:24,130 --> 01:07:25,429
people are becoming nihilistic?

2132
01:07:25,730 --> 01:07:27,704
Right? If if everybody is sort of on

2133
01:07:27,704 --> 01:07:29,144
the edge, what does that look like? Does

2134
01:07:29,144 --> 01:07:30,424
it I mean, I think last night, there

2135
01:07:30,424 --> 01:07:32,344
was a a driver. I don't know all

2136
01:07:32,344 --> 01:07:34,585
the details, but a driver that plowed through

2137
01:07:34,585 --> 01:07:36,744
30 people in Los Angeles. Mhmm. What is

2138
01:07:36,744 --> 01:07:38,505
he dealing with? Like, what what made him

2139
01:07:38,505 --> 01:07:39,944
go to those ends? Because for me, I'm

2140
01:07:39,944 --> 01:07:40,444
like,

2141
01:07:41,059 --> 01:07:42,980
if things are going well, I'm maybe I'm

2142
01:07:42,980 --> 01:07:44,260
staying at home, man. I don't need to

2143
01:07:44,260 --> 01:07:46,420
do that, you know, today. And and for

2144
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:47,940
it's like all these things, like, with the

2145
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:49,000
the Idaho,

2146
01:07:49,859 --> 01:07:52,420
firefighter situation where that guy was, you know,

2147
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:54,179
started a fire to take out take out

2148
01:07:54,179 --> 01:07:56,085
some firefighters. Like, what is going on here

2149
01:07:56,085 --> 01:07:57,445
where we're getting more and more of those

2150
01:07:57,445 --> 01:07:57,945
instances?

2151
01:07:58,324 --> 01:08:01,545
And they're definitely not, you know, Iranian

2152
01:08:01,925 --> 01:08:04,164
terror cells or whatever that people you know,

2153
01:08:04,164 --> 01:08:05,684
Laura Loomer and the folks are saying. It's

2154
01:08:05,684 --> 01:08:06,965
like, oh, yeah. No. That was that's that's

2155
01:08:06,965 --> 01:08:08,905
that's an ISIS terror cell over there.

2156
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:11,119
Or or or the guy in New Orleans,

2157
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:12,260
oh, that was obviously

2158
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,119
a a jihadist because of his his Quran

2159
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:17,360
that's opened in in his his bedroom or

2160
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,500
whatever. You know? I think we we have

2161
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,760
fortunately, people like you

2162
01:08:22,435 --> 01:08:24,435
like, the independent media ecosystem is just not

2163
01:08:24,435 --> 01:08:26,274
the same as it was in 02/2003. So

2164
01:08:26,274 --> 01:08:27,814
these these tactics,

2165
01:08:28,515 --> 01:08:30,835
this kind of information ecosystem is so different

2166
01:08:30,835 --> 01:08:32,914
that it doesn't work anymore. You have the

2167
01:08:32,914 --> 01:08:34,755
Candace Owens of the world, Tucker Carlson, who

2168
01:08:34,755 --> 01:08:37,199
are like, no. This is this seems wrong.

2169
01:08:37,659 --> 01:08:38,560
I don't think

2170
01:08:38,939 --> 01:08:41,100
that the analysis is correct, and they're presenting

2171
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:41,760
their evidence

2172
01:08:42,140 --> 01:08:43,119
of potentially

2173
01:08:43,579 --> 01:08:46,300
a different theory of what's happening. And enough

2174
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:47,899
people are listening to it now where they

2175
01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:49,520
say, oh, yeah. That that seems

2176
01:08:50,014 --> 01:08:51,554
us or that seems off.

2177
01:08:52,014 --> 01:08:53,935
And you're not getting this kind of, like,

2178
01:08:53,935 --> 01:08:56,094
cohesive body and like, oh, yes. Iraq met

2179
01:08:56,094 --> 01:08:58,734
weapons of mass destruction anymore. I think even

2180
01:08:58,734 --> 01:09:00,814
in this scenario, I I made a, sort

2181
01:09:00,814 --> 01:09:02,274
of a post the other day when,

2182
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:05,109
they were sending the USS Nimitz into The

2183
01:09:05,109 --> 01:09:06,390
Gulf. And I said, hey. Do you guys

2184
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:07,850
remember the USS Liberty?

2185
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:10,069
You know, I'm just saying that this it's

2186
01:09:10,069 --> 01:09:12,390
a very big possibility that if if something

2187
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:14,949
happens to it, false flag, you should consider

2188
01:09:14,949 --> 01:09:16,435
that. And then there was some article that

2189
01:09:16,435 --> 01:09:18,515
was written that says, no. The USS Nimitz

2190
01:09:18,515 --> 01:09:19,175
will not

2191
01:09:19,475 --> 01:09:21,715
be displayed in the false flag operation. I

2192
01:09:21,715 --> 01:09:23,074
laughed about that on the show. The fact

2193
01:09:23,074 --> 01:09:24,994
that it wasn't like it's not, you know,

2194
01:09:24,994 --> 01:09:26,914
like, it's not going to happen. It's like,

2195
01:09:26,914 --> 01:09:28,810
how could you even make that statement? It's

2196
01:09:28,810 --> 01:09:30,729
like, what an odd thing to say. You

2197
01:09:30,729 --> 01:09:31,877
know, that was with me post process. It

2198
01:09:31,877 --> 01:09:33,470
was like, what an odd thing to say.

2199
01:09:33,610 --> 01:09:35,210
But, you know, they're exactly going, see, we

2200
01:09:35,210 --> 01:09:36,409
told you it didn't happen. But it's like,

2201
01:09:36,409 --> 01:09:37,770
you could have never known that. Of course,

2202
01:09:37,770 --> 01:09:39,289
it could happen. It's just something No. A

2203
01:09:39,289 --> 01:09:40,570
lot of people are prosing underneath. It's like,

2204
01:09:40,570 --> 01:09:42,335
I think I just prevented the false flag

2205
01:09:42,335 --> 01:09:43,454
from happening. Because if I just say it

2206
01:09:43,454 --> 01:09:44,895
out loud, then it's like, okay. Good point.

2207
01:09:44,895 --> 01:09:46,895
Yeah. That's not gonna like, that tactic is

2208
01:09:46,895 --> 01:09:48,335
no longer it's off the table now. You

2209
01:09:48,335 --> 01:09:49,475
gotta do something else.

2210
01:09:50,015 --> 01:09:51,295
Yeah. That's a good point to make, though,

2211
01:09:51,295 --> 01:09:52,975
because, yeah, obviously, the point of a false

2212
01:09:52,975 --> 01:09:54,900
flag is to not have it be if

2213
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:56,820
everyone's going, this is what's gonna happen, they're

2214
01:09:56,820 --> 01:09:58,260
gonna go, well, okay. We'll do it later

2215
01:09:58,260 --> 01:09:59,780
at a different point, but then it ruins

2216
01:09:59,780 --> 01:10:01,699
the whole thing. Right? But it's just but

2217
01:10:01,699 --> 01:10:03,140
I I think there's something to that though

2218
01:10:03,140 --> 01:10:04,500
that, you know, because you'll never know for

2219
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:06,420
sure. Right? Maybe it wasn't gonna happen, but

2220
01:10:06,420 --> 01:10:08,020
that's what we I think are are one

2221
01:10:08,020 --> 01:10:09,300
of the important parts of what we do

2222
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:11,034
is about trying to, you know, present people

2223
01:10:11,034 --> 01:10:12,395
with data points for them to come to

2224
01:10:12,395 --> 01:10:13,994
their conclusions. And just just by putting it

2225
01:10:13,994 --> 01:10:15,755
out, you may very well may have saved

2226
01:10:15,755 --> 01:10:17,675
people's lives. Maybe not. Yeah. Yes. But it

2227
01:10:17,835 --> 01:10:19,034
I mean, really though, you know, it's it's

2228
01:10:19,034 --> 01:10:20,635
an interesting thing to think about. But that's

2229
01:10:20,635 --> 01:10:22,489
why it's so important that we stick to

2230
01:10:22,489 --> 01:10:24,729
our our principles, our integrity. And we're honest,

2231
01:10:24,729 --> 01:10:26,010
and we and we do things based on

2232
01:10:26,010 --> 01:10:27,210
the truth, you know, which is why I

2233
01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:28,729
respect your work. I think it's important. Thank

2234
01:10:28,729 --> 01:10:30,729
you. I appreciate that, right, I I very

2235
01:10:30,729 --> 01:10:31,929
much. You know, I think people like you

2236
01:10:31,929 --> 01:10:33,609
have been at it for so much longer

2237
01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:35,550
than me. I'm I'm I think I'm relatively

2238
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:36,189
green

2239
01:10:36,614 --> 01:10:38,055
in this space. And then the real only

2240
01:10:38,055 --> 01:10:39,675
reason why I joined is is

2241
01:10:39,975 --> 01:10:41,574
from what I saw behind the scenes in

2242
01:10:41,574 --> 01:10:43,255
the corporate world and and through COVID. Right?

2243
01:10:43,255 --> 01:10:44,534
I know you did a lot of reporting

2244
01:10:44,534 --> 01:10:45,895
on that. And what I saw behind the

2245
01:10:45,895 --> 01:10:47,595
scenes of, like, wow. These companies

2246
01:10:48,135 --> 01:10:49,574
who are out there saying they care about

2247
01:10:49,574 --> 01:10:50,074
science

2248
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:51,920
are making big time

2249
01:10:52,539 --> 01:10:53,039
unscientific

2250
01:10:53,340 --> 01:10:55,739
decisions. They're making financial decisions, and I saw

2251
01:10:55,739 --> 01:10:56,400
it firsthand.

2252
01:10:56,940 --> 01:10:58,780
And it's not for the good of the

2253
01:10:58,780 --> 01:11:01,020
American public. It's not good for health. And

2254
01:11:01,020 --> 01:11:02,800
that's one of my big,

2255
01:11:03,314 --> 01:11:05,395
you know, motivators in getting into this space

2256
01:11:05,395 --> 01:11:06,675
because I gotta be honest with you. I

2257
01:11:06,675 --> 01:11:07,335
was making,

2258
01:11:07,715 --> 01:11:09,795
you know, quarter million dollars just making PowerPoint

2259
01:11:09,795 --> 01:11:11,795
slides for for Big Pharma, and that was

2260
01:11:11,795 --> 01:11:13,154
a nice it was a good life. I

2261
01:11:13,154 --> 01:11:14,835
make way, way less money now. I gotta

2262
01:11:14,835 --> 01:11:16,114
put it out there. So this for people

2263
01:11:16,114 --> 01:11:17,314
who say, oh, yeah. I'm in it for

2264
01:11:17,314 --> 01:11:18,435
the money and this and that. This is

2265
01:11:18,435 --> 01:11:20,168
not the way to do it. This is

2266
01:11:20,371 --> 01:11:22,196
I'm gonna be 100% transparent there. I'm glad

2267
01:11:22,196 --> 01:11:23,818
you said that. It's just such a funny

2268
01:11:23,818 --> 01:11:25,845
thing to or I I've I've dealt with

2269
01:11:25,845 --> 01:11:27,467
that my entire career, which is funny where

2270
01:11:27,467 --> 01:11:29,088
it's like, you know, if you think I'm

2271
01:11:29,088 --> 01:11:30,710
just to make money, you have no idea

2272
01:11:30,710 --> 01:11:32,332
how this actually goes. It's like, it's it

2273
01:11:32,332 --> 01:11:33,655
is for one of the most I mean,

2274
01:11:33,655 --> 01:11:35,335
you know, clearly, there are ways I mean,

2275
01:11:35,335 --> 01:11:36,695
I'll point out that, of course, if we

2276
01:11:36,695 --> 01:11:38,215
came on and we're just like, rah rah,

2277
01:11:38,215 --> 01:11:40,375
left versus right, you know, whatever. We'd probably

2278
01:11:40,375 --> 01:11:41,655
make a ton a lot more money or

2279
01:11:41,655 --> 01:11:43,095
a lot, you know. But it's the truth

2280
01:11:43,095 --> 01:11:44,854
in this industry is not profitable, and I

2281
01:11:44,854 --> 01:11:46,179
think a lot of people are, you know,

2282
01:11:46,179 --> 01:11:47,539
beginning to see that. But it's just I

2283
01:11:47,539 --> 01:11:48,899
tend to think those are people trying to

2284
01:11:48,899 --> 01:11:51,300
shout you back from, you know, trying to

2285
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:52,659
make a benefit from doing it the right

2286
01:11:52,659 --> 01:11:54,659
way. That's what I think that is. Right.

2287
01:11:54,659 --> 01:11:56,520
And I and then that's something that I

2288
01:11:57,059 --> 01:11:58,819
it it's it's a true north star for

2289
01:11:58,819 --> 01:11:59,719
me. It's like,

2290
01:12:00,034 --> 01:12:02,354
I will always remember why I got into

2291
01:12:02,354 --> 01:12:03,795
this thing is not for the money. So,

2292
01:12:03,795 --> 01:12:05,875
like, when I make decisions, I if there's

2293
01:12:05,875 --> 01:12:09,234
anything that would compromise my ability to say

2294
01:12:09,234 --> 01:12:10,755
what I wanna say, and I might be

2295
01:12:10,755 --> 01:12:12,354
wrong in terms of what I'm saying in

2296
01:12:12,354 --> 01:12:14,375
the moment. But if there's anything that compromises

2297
01:12:14,595 --> 01:12:15,814
my ability to

2298
01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:18,350
to at least give my perspective on things,

2299
01:12:18,570 --> 01:12:20,729
that's that's the day that I'm ending this

2300
01:12:20,729 --> 01:12:22,729
venture because that's not what I'm here for.

2301
01:12:22,729 --> 01:12:23,850
Like, I'm not here to become

2302
01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:27,210
I don't wanna denigrate anybody. I'm not here

2303
01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:28,965
to become another Charlie Kirk kinda figure who

2304
01:12:28,965 --> 01:12:31,045
has been extremely successful. That's a person who's

2305
01:12:31,045 --> 01:12:33,064
made a lot of money in media, but

2306
01:12:33,204 --> 01:12:34,824
he's serving a particular purpose.

2307
01:12:35,604 --> 01:12:37,844
I'm here in terms of just giving people

2308
01:12:37,844 --> 01:12:38,664
different perspectives

2309
01:12:39,204 --> 01:12:40,885
on what the truth might be. I don't

2310
01:12:40,885 --> 01:12:42,164
know what the truth is, but I'm saying,

2311
01:12:42,164 --> 01:12:43,979
hey. They for For example, the the false

2312
01:12:43,979 --> 01:12:45,340
flag. I'm like, hey. This is something that

2313
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:46,859
happened in history. You guys should know about

2314
01:12:46,859 --> 01:12:48,380
this. So in case they come out with

2315
01:12:48,380 --> 01:12:50,460
more information, you should scrutinize that information to

2316
01:12:50,460 --> 01:12:52,300
make sure that it's true. And that's my

2317
01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:53,659
function here. And there's not a lot of

2318
01:12:53,659 --> 01:12:55,599
money to be made, you know, calling out

2319
01:12:56,145 --> 01:12:56,645
the

2320
01:12:57,265 --> 01:13:00,064
US military industrial complex or the imperial project.

2321
01:13:00,064 --> 01:13:01,925
These kinds of things are very unprofitable,

2322
01:13:03,104 --> 01:13:03,604
and

2323
01:13:03,984 --> 01:13:06,465
could get your TikTok and and platforms banned,

2324
01:13:06,465 --> 01:13:07,664
and all of a sudden, oh, my main

2325
01:13:07,664 --> 01:13:09,319
source of income is gone. So over the

2326
01:13:09,319 --> 01:13:10,719
last week, I'm like, oh, shit. I need

2327
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:12,000
to figure out something. If I don't get

2328
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,560
that account back, I've lost 75% of my

2329
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,479
income. So what should I do at this

2330
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:16,979
point?

2331
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,199
Yeah. Yeah. And see, that's the struggle. You

2332
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,324
know? And and I it's it's I I

2333
01:13:21,324 --> 01:13:23,085
think it's an interesting shift in all this,

2334
01:13:23,085 --> 01:13:23,885
you know, where there

2335
01:13:24,604 --> 01:13:26,545
one thing I keep talking about and, like,

2336
01:13:26,604 --> 01:13:28,604
I I personally kinda sense this in a

2337
01:13:28,845 --> 01:13:30,765
like Marjorie Taylor Greene coming out and and

2338
01:13:30,765 --> 01:13:31,265
really

2339
01:13:31,885 --> 01:13:34,125
making her statement about the the the amendment

2340
01:13:34,125 --> 01:13:36,539
for not funding Israel. You know, I I

2341
01:13:36,539 --> 01:13:38,300
agree with everything she said. And I don't

2342
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:39,820
know what her intentions are. I I, you

2343
01:13:39,820 --> 01:13:41,180
know, I'm very jaded when it comes to

2344
01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:42,380
politics. I think we have a right to

2345
01:13:42,380 --> 01:13:43,739
be. I just said I don't I don't

2346
01:13:43,739 --> 01:13:45,820
trust the intention. But I'm glad she's saying

2347
01:13:45,820 --> 01:13:47,579
it. My point continues to be that if

2348
01:13:47,579 --> 01:13:49,020
we see people saying what we agree, what

2349
01:13:49,020 --> 01:13:50,000
we know is right,

2350
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:52,354
raise it up. Yeah. Don't support everything they

2351
01:13:52,354 --> 01:13:54,114
do. Don't then just blindly trust the next

2352
01:13:54,114 --> 01:13:55,875
thing they say, but hope they have the

2353
01:13:55,875 --> 01:13:57,954
right intention, but raise up what's important. Start

2354
01:13:57,954 --> 01:13:59,395
to show people out there who are new

2355
01:13:59,395 --> 01:14:01,155
to this, even people that are dishonest that

2356
01:14:01,155 --> 01:14:02,835
they can gain more by being honest in

2357
01:14:02,835 --> 01:14:04,435
the with the truth than they can by

2358
01:14:04,435 --> 01:14:05,860
lying. You know? And I think it that

2359
01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:07,699
we can start to motivate people through those

2360
01:14:07,699 --> 01:14:08,979
channels even if they don't do do it

2361
01:14:08,979 --> 01:14:10,340
for the right reasons. At least we show

2362
01:14:10,340 --> 01:14:11,940
the you know, people lean into this right

2363
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:13,380
direction. And I think we can change the

2364
01:14:13,380 --> 01:14:14,979
field that way. I think we are. So,

2365
01:14:14,979 --> 01:14:16,520
hopefully, we can keep that going.

2366
01:14:16,820 --> 01:14:19,140
Yeah. Absolutely. I think there's, just to tie

2367
01:14:19,140 --> 01:14:21,454
back with the Mamdani point, I think people

2368
01:14:21,454 --> 01:14:22,395
now respect

2369
01:14:23,255 --> 01:14:25,814
the truth. They respect people who just give

2370
01:14:25,814 --> 01:14:28,054
their opinion about something versus somebody you could

2371
01:14:28,054 --> 01:14:30,375
see, oh, wow. This is just acting against

2372
01:14:30,375 --> 01:14:32,054
your morals and principles. So, like, why are

2373
01:14:32,054 --> 01:14:33,574
you doing that? Why should I trust you

2374
01:14:33,574 --> 01:14:34,635
if you won't even

2375
01:14:35,094 --> 01:14:35,594
act

2376
01:14:36,069 --> 01:14:38,710
in with good integrity? Right? At least I

2377
01:14:38,710 --> 01:14:40,469
don't care how you feel about Margie Taylor

2378
01:14:40,469 --> 01:14:42,789
Greene's other policies. You may disagree with them,

2379
01:14:42,789 --> 01:14:44,469
but she might be wholeheartedly I think she's

2380
01:14:44,469 --> 01:14:45,829
one of those America first people who say,

2381
01:14:45,829 --> 01:14:47,829
hey. I would rather have a white person

2382
01:14:47,829 --> 01:14:49,984
working in this than a brown person. And

2383
01:14:49,984 --> 01:14:50,804
I think that's probably

2384
01:14:51,104 --> 01:14:53,024
what she believes, and that's something I disagree

2385
01:14:53,024 --> 01:14:54,085
with. Mhmm.

2386
01:14:54,465 --> 01:14:56,224
But she's doing it from a place of

2387
01:14:56,224 --> 01:14:57,744
integrity at the very least. Even though I

2388
01:14:57,744 --> 01:14:59,744
don't agree with that particular ideology, I'm saying,

2389
01:14:59,744 --> 01:15:01,984
okay. She's there presenting those views, and here,

2390
01:15:01,984 --> 01:15:03,340
this clearly aligns with that. I was like,

2391
01:15:03,340 --> 01:15:05,180
hey. This is not an America first bill.

2392
01:15:05,180 --> 01:15:06,619
Like, why are we doing this? This doesn't

2393
01:15:06,619 --> 01:15:08,159
make any sense for my constituents.

2394
01:15:08,539 --> 01:15:09,680
I don't want this.

2395
01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:11,659
But but but oh, go ahead. Go ahead.

2396
01:15:11,659 --> 01:15:13,360
And then and then I'm just saying, like,

2397
01:15:13,500 --> 01:15:16,060
I would rather support politicians like that who

2398
01:15:16,060 --> 01:15:18,314
are true to their ideology versus somebody who's

2399
01:15:18,314 --> 01:15:20,335
just doing the bidding of their donors.

2400
01:15:20,795 --> 01:15:22,074
I I agree with that. And I actually,

2401
01:15:22,074 --> 01:15:23,994
to your point specifically of even things that

2402
01:15:23,994 --> 01:15:25,755
we may not, you know, agree with or

2403
01:15:25,755 --> 01:15:27,675
find to taste distasteful. But if they you

2404
01:15:27,675 --> 01:15:29,114
know, that they're acting with what they believe

2405
01:15:29,114 --> 01:15:30,314
in, I would agree with that. But I

2406
01:15:30,314 --> 01:15:31,319
would my point is,

2407
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,119
again, more so, like, I I actually don't

2408
01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:35,159
I don't know. I don't I my gut

2409
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:36,520
tells me I don't think she really means

2410
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:37,800
it. That's just I bet I get it.

2411
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,199
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, nonetheless, it's like, yeah,

2412
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:43,000
she sees the benefit because you know, like

2413
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,444
like I keep saying, it's like so they're

2414
01:15:44,444 --> 01:15:46,125
they look around and they okay. She goes,

2415
01:15:46,125 --> 01:15:47,645
if I say this, Israel is going to

2416
01:15:47,645 --> 01:15:49,085
come after me. I've I may lose the

2417
01:15:49,085 --> 01:15:50,925
next election, you know, blah blah blah. But

2418
01:15:50,925 --> 01:15:53,085
if I can get this behemoth of the

2419
01:15:53,085 --> 01:15:55,824
majority that clearly sees this on my side,

2420
01:15:55,965 --> 01:15:57,989
that's more powerful than anything else. You know,

2421
01:15:57,989 --> 01:15:59,590
from a politician's perspective, I mean, it's so

2422
01:15:59,590 --> 01:16:01,590
good. Let's motivate them to find the truth

2423
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:03,689
more profitable, to find it more, you know,

2424
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:05,189
better for their career. You know? And I

2425
01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:06,869
just I really do believe that. You know?

2426
01:16:06,869 --> 01:16:08,229
And I say I just I'm glad to

2427
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:09,670
see more and more leaning in that direction.

2428
01:16:09,670 --> 01:16:11,295
So, you know, James, thanks for being your

2429
01:16:11,295 --> 01:16:12,494
man. I really enjoy your work, and I'm

2430
01:16:12,494 --> 01:16:13,935
glad to have this conversation. We should do

2431
01:16:13,935 --> 01:16:15,215
it more often. I think your work is

2432
01:16:15,375 --> 01:16:17,935
Absolutely. Yeah. Happy to come on anytime, Ryan.

2433
01:16:17,935 --> 01:16:20,175
Appreciate you for elevating, you know, the stuff

2434
01:16:20,175 --> 01:16:21,935
and sharing. I think that's important in terms

2435
01:16:21,935 --> 01:16:23,815
of helping each other in this ecosystem Yep.

2436
01:16:23,935 --> 01:16:25,235
That we're all in it together.

2437
01:16:25,939 --> 01:16:27,619
That's how independent media works. It's it's

2438
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:29,479
if we if we don't,

2439
01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:31,779
you know, if we don't come together here,

2440
01:16:31,779 --> 01:16:33,460
we're they're they're trying to pick us off

2441
01:16:33,460 --> 01:16:34,659
one by one. I could see in this

2442
01:16:34,659 --> 01:16:36,179
space, they're like, oh, can we co opt

2443
01:16:36,179 --> 01:16:37,380
you? Can we co opt this person? Oh,

2444
01:16:37,380 --> 01:16:38,439
you you you you guys.

2445
01:16:38,914 --> 01:16:40,914
Let's pick you off. So I think we

2446
01:16:40,914 --> 01:16:42,515
can prevent that by kind of creating our

2447
01:16:42,515 --> 01:16:44,114
own network to say, hey. No. It's better.

2448
01:16:44,114 --> 01:16:45,094
To your point, right,

2449
01:16:46,114 --> 01:16:48,354
we we need to create an incentive to

2450
01:16:48,354 --> 01:16:50,774
stay independent. It's like, hey. This is how

2451
01:16:50,914 --> 01:16:52,614
you can build a bigger audience.

2452
01:16:52,949 --> 01:16:55,189
This is, you know, cynically speaking, where you

2453
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:56,789
should be. It's it's you you wanna create

2454
01:16:56,789 --> 01:16:58,630
that cynicism where it's like, oh, it's better

2455
01:16:58,630 --> 01:17:00,310
for me to tell the truth than to

2456
01:17:00,310 --> 01:17:02,250
lie. Absolutely. Absolutely.

2457
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:04,310
Well, thank you, brother. And, I look forward

2458
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:06,149
to speaking in the future. And as always,

2459
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:08,774
everybody out there question everything. Come to your

2460
01:17:08,774 --> 01:17:10,554
own conclusions. Stay vigilant.